Bussin' With The Boys - ACL Life, Demoted To Practice Squad, Cam Jordan

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

Recorded: November 11, 2020 The Boys are back on the bus for a fresh current events pod, and there is A LOT to talk about. Will & Taylor start things off with a little catch-up. Taylor recaps his ACL surgery and how he almost died in a Florida hotel stairwell, Will discusses what it was like getting cut by the Titans and what it means to be put on practice squad, and then he presents a "genius" marketing idea involving Star Wars and AJ Brown. Next up, The Boys get into one of their favorite pastimes, The Bachelorette. They break down everything that's happened so far this season and give their takes on "the most dramatic season yet." Warning: spoilers. Finally, Will & Taylor are joined by 5x Pro Bowler Cameron Jordan to discuss the Saints' dominance in the NFC South, Jameis Winston's interesting celebrations, and most importantly, his podcast, Truss Levelz w/Cam Jordan & Mark Ingram. Awesome up-to-date pod this week for all tiers to enjoy! Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Resubscribe ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.comFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't know Out there just staring at you Dude, we're back I love it I'm so happy to be here We have about an hour and a half That's fine And then I'm fucked

Perfect Why what do you got So we got some We got like a ticking time On my pills inside me And then eventually Dude I'm gonna be At the end of this podcast

I'll let me like this Yeah I'm definitely We're dying dude Well welcome the busing with the boys We're here Are we doing it We're started

Presented by Barstool Sports By Barstool Sports Are we rolling Fuck yeah, dude First off, round of applause to the boys Just so I'll just take good to see each and every one of you It's been a long trying Trying 20-20, a very long

A lot of things didn't go the boys' way this year Hey, hey, hey What's the video? Hey, look at us Hey, who would have thought? Not me. Not me. Dude, fucking, I mean, I guess I'll just tell my news

And you tell your news. We already know the news, but I got to my ACL. We did an ACL podcast. I know, but the boys also got some news. Not on the acting. The boy guy cut. Dude, like the expectations of what this year was supposed to be. You can't win them all.

Can't win them all, dude. 2020 has been an L. 2020. I still spend it as a big W. I think we're having a big W. I know we're struggling, but I'm a glass half full always kind of guy. When we started this season,

you literally looked at me and said, this is going to be the best year of our entire life. You actually said that to me. And I, man, imagine we sat here like two weeks from now. I just be like, remember when we thought this was going to be the best year or time? It didn't take. two weeks took seven weeks.

Yeah. Every week, you know, we started off undefeated with one and no, two, and no, three, no, four, and no, five, and no. And every week, I'd be at practice with Taylor and I'll be saying, like, I look at it, go, hey, best year of our lives. Best year of our lives. I was like, we're going to, you know, we still are going to win the Super Bowl, but it's like, we're going to win the Super Bowl.

Yeah. We're going to just have the greatest, you're going to go to the Pro Bowl. Like, I'm going to go to the Pro Bowl. We're both going to go to the Pro Bowl. One plus one equals us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to invite me to the Pro Bowl. I'm gonna take you with me, dude.

Fuck, and then look at us. And I had this flabby piece of atrophy meat, dude, just sitting on top of this table. Yeah, like, they can't get in them smaller. What's that? They can't get any smaller. It did. It has way smaller.

Yeah. I mean, I won't really show you. Check all this shit Anna did. What is that? The rock tape? The rock tape for a little more. I got my, but hey, a little couple updates, though,

because I know we have a schedule. Fucking, I kind of like when we have schedules. I also hate when we have schedules. It's just topics. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. We have the current events, which we can't wait to talk about the Bachelorette. I cannot wait to talk about that, dude.

ACL talk. And I'm super fired up because I thought the Bachelorette. I thought we were going to miss out on the game. How hyper you? I don't watch the Titans game to watch The Bachelorette. How hype are you when I called you? I was like, yo, it's on tonight. It's so stoked.

And we'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We always do that. Dude, I can get full extension. I get, when I'm at resting, I'm resting the same past flexion as this, which is a big deal for those of you don't have ACL. People don't understand.

So the AICL, like the extension, that's my, my fingers, my knee, all right? Bend, flexion, or no, straight. Something like that. Right. Either way, straight. Straight. Straight. Extension.

Shut up, boss. Fucking Veterans Day. This guy just wants to speak. Yeah, he's already. Hey, happy veterans day, though. Thank you for everything you've done for us. So when I'm an extension, I'm getting like the over extension that you're supposed to get with the leg that you don't need, that you don't need flex the quad and it goes up.

What over extension degree are you supposed to have that's like normal and healthy? This leg is minus seven. This one's minus six. so I'm like right there. I'm there. So you can play. No. I go out there right now.

Oh, so you can play. Yeah, tossed around like a fuck. See, that's why I can't play right now. I'm a little soft, dude. Hit my funny bone. But I can get my knee bent. They said, don't go past 90 today. We had 100 degrees bent.

So I'm kind of, I'm a little bit. So you're ahead of schedule. I'm fucking blowing myself right now. I'm above. I'm ahead of schedule. We're going to get into the ACL. We got AACL. We go, of course, we get to talk about the practice squad.

Cameron Jordan is calling in. Cameron Jordan's calling in. Sam and George's calling it. We're going to get to Zoom the boy. Trust levels. Yeah, we'll figure out why they started a podcast. What gave them the balls to finally start a podcast while playing.

Right. You know? We'll ask them about the grind of it. There was only one, there was only one group of people that had a podcast of active football players. True. And the entire world.

Right. We're going to stay humble. Yeah. We're humble. I'm not saying it was us. I'm saying there was only one, though. I'm not going to say we carried the torch. No.

But we were holding a stick that's on fire. Yeah. We're holding a stick that's on fire on top. You know what I'm saying? No question. No question. Man, so it's a big deal. So you said you kind of said we're like, you said the schedule.

I wanted to say what's to come so people can get all antsy. Kind of get excited. But before, but before we, you know, get into it. Yeah. We got to do an ad read for our partners at Chevy. This episode of Bustin with the Boys is brought to you by Chevy Silverado. What does strength mean to you? How about dependability?

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Get your rearing gear and park it in a nice, beautiful new Chevy Silverado. Are we doing the podcast now? All I was basically saying is once I said, You said like the schedule, and now I was in the middle of doing that part, which is number one. Right. That's going to be in the show. That's now, now. We're already doing the show.

But we did the Chevy ad. Hey, we're rusty. Hey. So when I said this from our partners at Chevy, it stops. They do the little door noise and the Chevy ad read comes in that we're going to do later. Okay. And then they drop the hook. And now we're in the episode.

So three. So we're in the episode one. Three, two, one. Yeah. Yeah, Chevy. Good work, Chevy. Way to fucking come through for the boys. Throw a little bit of change in our pockets.

But also, I mean, Chevrolet is like the number, what, what, top three American-made vehicles in the entire world? Number one. They are, hey, they're top three. They're podium every time. Their podium every fucking dime. Number one, yeah. They're number one. You know what the sleeper two?

Don't fact check. Number one. Bus and with the boys, they're number one on our list. This bus is actually a Chevrolet. Yes. The Chevy Bluebird. It's the 74 Bluebird. Say that again?

The 74. Bluebird Chevrolet. It's a 74 bluebird Chevrolet. Sorry, Will was trying to tell me to look into a camera. Hey, we're watching. We're fucking rusty, though. But it's fun. It's all right, dude.

We're moving as well as my knees right now. We're just going to keep this fucking thing going. Hopefully, in nine months will be all right. A year ago, when we were this rusty, we would have been kind of stress or never. Like, is this going to be, is this going to suck? No, it's like, fuck it. Yeah. It is what it is.

Yes. You think big trust levels or whatever camera? What's the name of his podcast? Trust levels. Truss levels. Is it with an S or with a Z? Two S's. Trust.

Trust. Big trust. Big trust. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do a solid job. Talk to them.

And then it's him and Mark Ingram, right? Two separate teams, but they play together at the Saints. Right. Yeah. And remember Mark stood up. Trust level. Woo. Yeah.

All that stuff. MVP. Right. Remember Taji Sharps. Yeah. See me. Doing Derek Henry. Yeah.

After we beat them in the divisional rounds. You got to beat them. After we beat them. Oh, yeah. You weren't on the team. I legit. I know. I legit, literally, I think my whole career we played together.

Oh, like in your mind? My rookie year, we played together. Like, in your mind, it's like, remember the AFC Championship? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Well, because when we were in the AFC Championship, you and I were talking a lot. Because you were at home. No, no, no, no.

The boys were at Acme throwing a banger party. Bangor parties for the boys. How do you think the Raiders felt about that? Like, you literally win from selling out for the Raiders, loving the Raiders up. And then, like, you soon as the season end, you're like, all right, there's this. Cruise in Nashville.

I'm wearing a jersey. And now you're like wearing a, fucking, you're selling out for the Titans. I don't know. Like, I tried to give them some perspective, like, when I was there, because they were mad or they weren't mad, but I got some looks when I was really late getting back to the locker room after doing that jersey swap.

Oh, you got some looks? Oh, yeah. Even the next week. The guys, subtle little jokes. A couple players said some jokes to me. Like, which ones? Incognito. Yeah.

He sets on me. Oh, the bullies. I'm not part of the boys now. I'm like, you were cool with it. When I got here, it's talking about for the boys. But then, you know. Yeah, that's a fun thing about Richie is you don't know who you're getting. you know what I'm saying

it's a fun And then like Go up there and you're having fun Oh and now we've now we've The special teams coach would say stuff to me Yeah But you know everybody's like hey we're waiting on you Like after I got the jersees

Because I took so long after the jerseys in Were you like holding them like like folded laundry? Yeah And every hey hey hey Hey And everyone's standing Like when I came into the locker room Everyone's kind of standing

Just looking at you like around And then Gurren's like we good And they're like yeah And I'm I just You're like holding the laundry of dirty jerseys Yeah bro, that's so funny. Shout out Wesley Woodyard for doing that, though.

I know, big shot at the West. I was kind of pissed off that I didn't think of that idea because it was a really good idea and made you feel special, didn't it? Yeah, it did. When Will and I traded jerseys, I, like, wrote down, like, what I wrote some bullshit? Like, hey, I love you, buddy. Stel's for you.

I love you for the boys. Yeah. Something, no bad days. I miss you. That was like it. And Will, Will, like, signs. He goes, hey, I'm going to take this with me and just, you know, put a little more thought in it.

And I was like, oh, okay, I'm finished. And like, he met me out. I went to the locker room and I wrote like all over my five. Just it covered the entire. It looked like a tattoo. Covered the entire five. And I give it to Taylor and it's like all this stuff

and then he hands me his. It's like a couple like couple lines. I was like, hey, appreciate this man. It just shows how which one of us were actually in it. We'll have to take photos of the jerseys and give them to you Blas because I hate your bit.

I tell you what, your YouTube, your show, the way the way you've portrayed the boys because it's not us. Josh, I know you grind Blas, I know you take a lot of pride in the YouTube. The YouTube show is banger, dude. You know Alex is sitting back there fuming

that you didn't compliment him. Well, yeah, yeah, Alex is a barber too. I just know when I get on the phone with Bloss. I know, I'm just saying like when I get on the phone Bloss and he gets, he just gets, he gets tight when something's just like something about the YouTube because sometimes I'll downplay. I'm like, I'll tell all of them.

I'm like, hey, the audio is the, you know, the important thing that we always got to have out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not, you know, I know it's awesome, blah, blah, blah. And he just takes this. It's so serious, but it is fucking awesome. And you make us look extremely good. All of you guys.

You guys make us look extremely good. But that YouTube show, man, we can sit in the basement and we can just watch it. It's like, you don't even need your phone. We actually did that one time. Yeah. Boys were banged up. And we were like, yeah, let's throw a YouTube on. See how we do.

Yeah. I'm like, yeah, it's not too bad. And we're like, yeah, it's not too bad. And we're like, we kind of pause and we're like, yo, this shit is awesome. Yeah. It's all a little deal. So it's a good work, boss. Yeah.

good work. I'll tell you who's doing a good job too. These two blokes right in front of you right there. Garrett and Jack, they've done a nice job helping the boy. I've been crippled for the last couple weeks. Yeah, I've heard. And they've definitely they came down to Florida with me. They've been loving on me. They've been driving me places. Oh, Jack's lived here in his entire

life. Has no idea how to get around this town. Really? He doesn't know a fucking direction. Please don't interrupt when you're not on the show, Jack. Jack does not know how to, he can take, he doesn't know right or left. And when they're not around each other, they say mean things about each other. Oh, really? Yeah, when they're not, hey, they say that. Like, as you're talking to him, they all got like,

Jack come back and be like that fucking guy, Jack, Garrett. Just all brown nosing. Just shitty little noses when they're talking to you. Yeah. Like, literally the other day, Garrett and I were sitting there and Jack got out of the car. And Gary goes, man, wouldn't this be more fun of, it was just you and me? I go, what? Hey, to give context, Jack and Garrett are best friends.

Best friends. Don't you guys live together? They're like best friends. Not for long, though. If you guys knew what I knew, which I can't say. It sounds like you're creating a huge divider in between them right now. Like, hey, they got themselves a little bit of a deal going on. We'll let them work it out, though.

But we had fun on the trip to Florida. It was like, it was a lot of positives. There was one day in particular that you guys didn't get to film. So there was a, there was a hurricane coming through, like not really Florida, but it was like there was going to be wins like 40 mile an hour or no, like 60 mile an hour wins, right? It was a great two. It got leveled up to a grade two, whatever that is for hurricanes. I'm kind of tripped. I've never been in a hurricane before.

We are all kind of like, this is kind of crazy But everybody down in Florida doesn't give a shit Like that's kind of like That's a regular fucking life for them Oh, it's October Hurricanes are coming Like that's like their life So I tell the boys I'm like hey

Do you guys want to just come Apparently Portafina The place I was staying at Has been through a dozen of these things Super safe Like do you guys want to just stay at the spot And like no it's fine We'll stay at our place

They were staying at a place called like surfing sandals So you know it's like a one star A little deal They didn't even get the continental Breakfast and thing Like that thing's foundation The little mini boxes of Syria Yeah, exactly.

And they don't even get the milk. It's a bad little deal. So I don't take any pill. It was like literally less than 24 hours after I got surgery. And so I got my wife, my two kids, my mother-in-law and my phone mom. And I'm like, okay, if shit goes down, I got to be able to handle myself because they're taking care of each other. So I'm not going to take any pills or anything like that because I don't want to be, you know, fucked up, can't move. And they also have to help me out.

Yeah. So I'm dying that night. Sure enough, 4 a.m. hits. there's an alarm going off. Please evacuate the building immediately. And it's like during the hurricane. And I'm like, I have to fucking don't. And they say don't use the elevators.

Because I'm like, fuck, I'm going to use the elevators. I'm like, don't use the elevators. Please evacuate the building immediately. Like, this is not a test. Blas, blah, blah, blah. So I literally still have blisters on my hands. I don't know if you can zoom in on that. Garrett and Jack, these poor guys have heard this story.

I fucking so many times. I'm so sick of it. I literally went down the stairs, 10 flights of stairs on my hands. Like holding onto the rain. 204 hours at a surgery. Trying to evacuate the building. I didn't hear this story. Bro.

And I got like shit hanging off. I got like tubes in my knee draining out the fluid. I have my knees like I have like the brace that was on earlier. Like I don't know how to use crutches yet. They should have, they should tell you how I did with crutches. It was I legit, I thought there's no way I'd be able to use crutches.

I thought you literally swing yourself with crutches. I know it was more of like a guided stepping thing. So I'm like, fuck the crutches. I left the crutches behind. I get down the stairs. My hands are bleeding. And I'm like, I get down, I'm on the second floor. I go from 10 to 2.

And then all of a sudden there's a, over the intercom, someone goes, never mind, that was a false alarm. Like, not a big deal. I'm, dude, I'm so fucking mad at this point. Did you just crash on the little hotel lobby couch at that point? No, I went, I went. You just got to go take that out. I finished those last two steps.

I finished those last two steps. Went to the elevator, fucking pressed it into the elevator came. And here's the thing. I don't know what it is with you being fucking injured. I don't know what the fucking deal is. The elevator always shows up. It's the farthest fucking one away. All right.

It's been windy, so there's some sand laying around. Who slips? Not my mom. Not fucking Miss Tanna. Not tailing. Not my two kids. And my three-year-old who's still learning to walk really well. Fucking I slip.

And what do I do? Don't worry. My brace leg catches me more mad than you've ever been in my entire life, dude. Legitimately fuming at the fucking mouth. Are you just laying on? Are you laying on the ground? No. No, it was like one of those slips like,

and you call yourself, but you're staying up. Everybody kind of just puts their hand. Like, hey, are you okay? Are you all right? Are you all right? Everyone's like putting their hands on you. I'm like, I'm fine. Fucking swing crutching myself because my,

because Ms. Tanna brought the crushes. Swing crutching myself to the elevator. Fucking press the button. Don't stay in the middle because I'm a dumb ass. The farthest one goes. Have to get on that elevator. Did you make it before the door's closed? Oh, I made it.

They held it for me. You know what I mean? thing. It opens up. And he's like, closing. He's like going to get there. We get up. I'm, dude, I'm so mad. I just literally went, the best possible thing, I'm so mad and in so much pain, I let just go lay down and go to bed. I'm fucking the day's over for me.

4 a.m. A couple hours later, the boys show up, take me money in the bank. Did you cry yourself to sleep? No, I was hot, though. I was hot. And I was like, I don't want to take pills. If I take pills now, that I'm going to be a loopie for my stuff in four hours. So I'm in pain laying in bed. I got a piss jug next to me. Because I'm not even supposed to get up to pee. Yeah. So I'm like leaning over, pissing on myself, can't shower for 13 days. Oh, smell.

It's A. And you know how you kind of check yourself? All the time. I checked myself every day. And it never got better. Until I got home, no joke. And I had the, I had the dude wipe shower. The dude wipe shower wipes.

Yeah. And I wet myself down. It was a lifesaver, dude. And I went myself down every single day. I felt a lot better. Because at one point, I was like five, six days into this thing with Jack and Garrett. And I don't know these cats like that. You know what I'm saying?

It's not like it's you where I'm like, fuck, I'll, I'll shit myself in front of you. And I'm comfortable. enough for you and me to be like, we're going to work through this together. Maybe you'll wipe me up a little bit. I don't know Garrett and Jack like that up to that point. Yeah. So I'm literally like kind of like insecure. Like, yeah, am I like stanking?

Am I stinking? Other than other than the alarm. And when we were getting on the highway on October 31st, which is the most, actually the most depressing day it had set for me. It was a very depressing day. Which I don't know if I need to go to that. We're getting into the, we're going on the highway. Some slap dick in Florida is putting up Christmas lights.

And we lose. On Halloween. Halloween. On the peak of spooktober. The peak of spooktober. And we rolled on the windows to start absolutely berating this guy. And the thing is, we were yelling at him. The dude looked up like he knew.

Like he looked up at us and was like, fuck. Like went home and told his wife told you they'd know. Yeah. I told you somebody would fucking yell at me. Sure enough. That's depressing. So yeah, Florida was a bit of a deal. With the Andrews Institute, Tyler, he was a stud.

Am I missing anything, boys? Well, we're circling it back because you were giving them a round of applause for helping you out. That's where you're ultimately going with that. Because they really stepped up. Yeah, they've done a really good job. So on that now. There we go. Yeah, good job, Jack and Garrett.

They have. As soon as they figure out their differences between the two of them, we're going to be a lot better. I feel awkward for you guys. Why? I mean, they just got to talk about it. Yeah. No, they actually got nothing going.

I try to put a little void in between them all the time. It ain't nothing. Well, they got a friendship kind of like, they have like the beginning friendship like we had. Oh, in the beginning? Yeah. They've noticed that they're longer, though. That sounds.

They just don't have the quality we have. Right. You and I've worked through some. shit. Yeah. You know. Hise and Lowe, speaking of highs and lows. Yeah.

Would you say that was your lowest point so far with the ACL? What, like, hey, honestly, there was one day I was, like, kind of, like, butt hurt. I didn't eat in the morning. And I went to go do my treatment. I was, like, super hungry. Right. Had in shit in three days. And so that was a pretty little moment.

But for the most part, there's been a pretty positive, like, deal. Because when we did the ACL Diaries, that was before you got your surgery. Yeah. So how's, like, your mental and how's, like, how's, how's, like, how's, how's, How's the shit been sent your surgery? You still feel like you're in the same headspace? Yeah, no, I feel like super, I'm super positive about this whole thing. Because like, just because like my knee is the only thing that doesn't work right right now.

Yeah. Everything else. Like, I got to work out the last two days. And I'm like, it's like, it's so nice. You're like excited. Oh, dude. I mean, I'm not really doing much. I'm like doing some band work and I'm doing like flies.

Like just feel good, look good stuff. Yeah. But the same time I know, like, I have all in November, December and January. Like when usually your body would be getting beat down. from the season and then you're going to have to recover from that. I have those three months, November December, those three months, plus the whole off season,

I'm going to come back better than I've ever in my entire life. Hey, after these a couple of first couple months, you're going to look like an influencer on Instagram. All upper body, no legs, you're going to look good. I'm 286 right now. I've lost over 20 pounds.

And it's been, what? I'm, this is 15 days since surgery. I just don't eat a lot of calories. No, I don't eat any carbs. I'm like the dude from a stepbril

that's literally what I thought. I'm out of carbs since 2010. Some shit like that. You want to touch this shit? But yeah, like Jerry hasn't really shown up that much. Explain the Jerry. Explain why your name's Jerry on Twitter. Jerry is my alter ego.

He's, um, instead of me, Taylor LeWan getting sad, is Jerry. And so Jerry's life, um, he used to go to Sandsbury and stuff like that. It's like a Costco in England. And he slipped and he fell and he sued the Sandsbury and made a bunch of money on it. Yeah. And he realized, oh, if I can go, if I go to America, I can, that can make a lot. living out of this without ever having to work. So he goes to a Costco

in National Tennessee, and he slipped and fell and he hurt his right knee towards ACL. And so now he's depressed because he realizes it's not human anymore. Like he's not like... Oh, you've created a whole story. He's Jerry. Like I think he told this one in the ACL Diaries,

but now I'm sitting here, listen to... Listen to the story like, you gotta... Jerry's got to make a film. You can make a film. Like, Taylor LeWan is fine. Right. My mental is great because Jerry takes the brunt of everything. Fun fact, Talen fucking hates Jerry.

I've caught notice. Taylor can't stand, Jerry. Taylor now, FaceTime, and he'll do the Jerry stuff like for several minutes. Yeah, which is more than three. And then he'll get done. You know, I'm like laughing. I'm like, yeah. And then I'm like, can I ask you something?

I'm like, how's Tailing like Jerry? And then in the background, I fucking hate him. Because Jerry, me, Jerry, and Tailing have been in arguments before where Jerry says a mean things of Taylor. Wait, wait, wait, time the fuck out. What did you just say that not happen? Go give the mic to Jack or Garrett because this just fucking happened. Wait, hang on. Say that again.

You said Jerry, Taylor and Taylor have all gotten in fights. Garrett, go ahead. Like, you were there for that, right? Yeah, three of them don't get along. Like, Taylor and Jerry get along. I understand Jerry. Yeah. But, like, Jerry doesn't understand why Taylorin's mean to him.

And Taylorin's mean to Jerry, but she's nice to me. So I sometimes have to be the mediator between Jerry and Talon. Yeah. And sometimes Jerry says to mean shit. He said some mean shit that one day. Yo, hey, could you imagine? Because you just know Taylor is so committed that he's not going to deviate from what's happening. It's almost like one of those things or it's like, hey, look, I'm going to fucking go to the other room.

Taylor almost went to the other room that one day. It was a tough. I just sit down and Jerry and talk to him by ourselves for a little bit. It was tough. Taylorin's walked in on me and Jerry talking before. We need to have somebody like while you're doing it. You're like sitting sitting in your chair with the TV on. you're just going back and forth, Taylor and Jerry,

and then someone just, like, slide a camera in the room and just barely poke it out and film you the whole time. That would be cool. It was like... But I think because Jerry, like, I'm cool. Like, the only time I'm sad is when Jerry's around. So Taylor's never sad. No, I'm never sad.

I'm cool. Because for Taylor, it's no bad days. Because no bad days. Jerry has the bad days. Jerry, well, he just realized he's not superhuman anymore. Like, he's kind of, he was very similar to Taylor, but then he, without the work. He seems like more of a glass-aff empty kind of guy.

Well, I think now because he hurt his knee. Now, if I heard my knee, I'd be upset too. But I didn't hurt my knee. Jerry heard of me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do you want me to explain it again? No.

No, no, no. So what's the usual timeline, average timeline for an ACO recovery? I talked to Dobson. And he said that when Sue, the Dominican Sue, Dobson is a straight coach at Vanderbilt. Absolutely love Dobson. He was your strength coach at Nebraska. That's how I met Dobson.

He and I were FaceTiming because that's the only way we talk now. Like he won't answer his phone calls unless it's a face time. get so mad when you don't get back to him. He'll like talk to me and I'm like yeah you should hit him up and you know he'd love to hear from me. He's like I hit him up all the time. I don't hear nothing back from him. You know, but he's because he gets a little, he gets a little sensitive about it. Like genuinely the only people I really like text back consistently is Taylin, you and now Garrett and Jack mostly because they're helping me and you need. Ger and Jack are like my only friends in Nashville because you have to work. What about Corey and Dennis and our little

Brad? Yeah, I don't know. We don't really like chill like that. Like you guys always play too late. I want to wake up. I want to get sleep because I can recover. Yeah. But the recovery, I was talking to Dobson and Nodomicon Sue tore his ACL, had a partial tear in his ACL. The first couple of days, Dobson was there as the string coach. He did like a handball thing. And do we have to call, is Cammy? No, no, nope. They did like a handball thing. And I guess like Sue had a partial tear from the season that Dobson didn't know about and he fully tore it. Yeah. So Sue got cleared for activities after four months.

So my goal is a beat for, yeah, he's a, my goal is to beat four months, which I will. I'll beat that for sure. Okay. You're going to beat four months and it's going to be insane. What is the usual recovery for? Nine months, up to nine months. Sometimes it could take people up to a year or two.

Well, they say it's not fully healed for two years. So the first year you go back, it's like, you kind of look, well, living on a prayer. You know what I'm saying? I know a lot of those dudes with knees, too. It's like trust. And when you ever you are cleared, it's like, believing that your knee can do it. Like can I literally go and try to stop on this like I used to?

Yeah. I know. Well, Anna Hartman, the lady that is like super helpful. She's the movement rev. She started that company and she does like, she comes in, flies from San Diego. During the season, it helps me and she's unbelievable. She says like there's like a neurological thing when your brain, like your brain obviously has receptors that go like if I were to roll my ankle.

Like if you hurt your ankle bad enough, your brain will fog up that area because it's trying to protect it. So it lets the inflammation go there and it kind of fogs. up the reaction time of the ankle. And they say like when you hurt your other knee or then the same knee again, a lot of times it has to do with that your brain, not reacting fast enough enough. We were talking about that on the car ride earlier. She drives slower than shit too. So I was actually dying in the car with my knee bent. But I love her to death. But like honestly, there hasn't been like that many lows. Like there has been lows, but everything like logically

I can talk myself out of because like the team's doing well I'm stoked to see like the boys are doing well like this is the best record that I would have ever had if I was like playing consistently that's awesome yeah so that's good like if the team went in the shitter I'd be like fuck I really feel like I'll let a lot of people down

but like they're doing well like every day like the knee gets better Are you are you rehabbing now? Like have you already started rehab and everything? Oh yeah like I said like I can get my knee I can bend past 90, which you're not really supposed to do because I had a small meniscus. I can put full weight on it. I can legit walk.

Yeah. I can walk backwards, walk forwards. I'm doing balancing stuff on it now. I did leg press today for like 135 for 10 on just this leg. Really? So, yeah. So things are actually going really well. I'm like, it's going kind of too well where I know there's going to be like that fucking

little bit of turbulence coming up soon. Yeah. Which always happens. But like I get to look. I get to work out with Lucch's send like, like I said, the last year. days being able to go work out at 8 a.m. And then 10.30 go to rehab and then have Anna later in the afternoon. Like my days fully geared towards like, how do I get better?

And so like once I, now that I have like working and I'm not like getting prehab for surgery. I'm not doing X, Y, and Z. Like it's it's super like a positive feeling to be able to feel myself getting better every single day. That's awesome. Like I like the atrophy of losing so much weight. Like I look in the mirror. I have no like muscle tone or anything. Yeah.

I just been fucking melting in a couch for two weeks. Yeah. And it's nice, like, kind of fucking sit down. Okay, all right. I can feel a little ab in there, you know what I'm saying? Looking like a tight end. I'm looking like a son. I posted that, I posted, uh, how it's going, how it started, how it's going.

And people were, uh, people were talking about, they're like Taylor looking like a tight end. I'm looking tiny skipping leg day. Yeah. Stuff like that. People, people, I tell you what, don't sleep on these things, bro. They're fucking small, but they're. They work hard. They work hard.

They work hard. They're little pistons. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But yeah, so shit's going good, dude. What about you? Like fucking... Hang on, before we do, let's, uh, you know what we got to do.

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Couple weeks went by, got dicey. Yeah. Wait, wait, a week happened, right? And then. Notty. Week five, I got hurt. And week six after week six is when. Because you text before I got surgery and like, you got cut.

I didn't get surgery. like you got cut week six or whatever right after week six so would you like take because i try i try calling you like right when they right when they called so i was in my house yeah it was around like 2 p.m i got a call from the 615 number i didn't have it in my phone so i didn't answer and then i checked it you know how you can message and see if like maybe i've texted with this number before i checked it and i saw it with somebody from the titans facility so i'm oh dang so i called back wasn't matt no it wasn't matt it wasn't matt it was a man matt would have probably had a tough time Matt would have had a hard time.

I would have a tough time. That's a good thing. And he's like, you know, hey, Will, you at the facility? And I'm literally thinking in my head, like, it's all like starting to process. I'm like, yo, is this happening? And I was like, no, it's 2 p.m. Why would I be at the facility? Can you come in, grab your, grab your, uh, grab your, uh, connect on your little GPS tracker

so they can track you for like the COVID stuff. And he's like, and come up to John's office. So you knew immediately. I knew. I said, okay, cool. Like just casual. Hot. Hung on the phone because I was about to get the shower and I'm just standing there naked.

I'm just standing there. And I was like, shit. Yo, am I going to get cut? I'm like just thinking, oh, you're just thinking all these different things. I'm like, oh, there's no way. There's no way. And I'm like, but maybe there is. Because I was like, I had a couple tackles on punt the game before.

I had, I got in on, I subbed in on defense late in the game. And I was like, and I played fine. We did give up that. We did give up that punt that gashed us. Yeah. But I'm thinking like, you're just thinking all these different situations. So I get in the car. I'm driving.

I tell Charle, I'm like, hey, I think I'm about to get released. I'll keep you updated because she was working. Yeah, how does Charles react to that? Did she even get back to you before you went in the building? Yeah, I think, yeah, she texted. She's like, you know, oh my God, are you serious? She's like, keep me updated. Then that's what I track on you.

You didn't answer. Yeah. I hit up Taylor. I'm like, didn't I hit up Taylin? You might have. Because Taylor, I think Taylorin told me. Yeah. She's like, you know, I went to, I went to his office.

I go up, you know, it was super casual. Your heart's just racing. No question. I walk up the stairs and I'm like out of breath for whatever, read. I can just feel my heart just pounding. Those stairs, though. They're so fucked up about those stairs. Heart's just pounding, dude.

And I sit down. It's like, man, hell of a, you guys fought your ass to come back and stuff. Because we like, it's right after this Steelers game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys fought your ass to come back. I'm like, yeah. And he's like, you know, we won. We want to swap a couple guys.

And, you know, so we're going to release you. And if you, you know, if you're up for it, we'd like to get you back on practice squad. And I'm just sitting there. And mind you, I have my mask on. So he can't, like, see me, like, breathing heavier or nothing. I'm like, I'm like trying to nasal breathing, hold, like, try to calm my breathing. Because when I'm responding to him, I don't want to sound like I'm panting. Right.

And I'm like, all right. And, you know, I handle it professional. All that stuff. I'm, you just don't know what to think in your mind. And he's like, we do, we do want you back though and stuff. And, you know, I know it sucks, blah, blah, blah. It's got to be hard. Like, hindsight, it's got to be tough just like cutting guys.

Like, guys coming in your office. Yeah. There's an SNL skit about that where they're fucking like the, no, it's mad TV. Like, a person has a really hard time cutting somebody. Yeah. And by the 10th person, like, hey, they're like eating Chinese food. You're fucking, you're done. And like, they're kind of just going.

After a while, it's just what it is. I feel like, they keep going. And then, um, I'm, um, I go across the hall, shake, shake Jerry Lips, and go across all the van. He's like, hey, so we good with the plan? And I was like, no, I'm going to call my agent first. Hey, Vin, I bet catches the brunt of shit for sure.

Because John's, like, breaks the news and you're kind of in shock. Yeah. And then Vin's the first person to talk to you after you. You're like, well, shut the fuck up. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to call my agent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's an awesome dude.

Yeah, they're awesome. John's a great dude. Vin's a good. They have a good. We have a good upstairs. Yeah. Relative to, like, the man versus, you know, the player. Yeah, and then I go down, I got to see Todd to kind of sign the waiver and stuff.

Now, were there are dudes in the training room when you were signing the waiver? Yeah, there were a couple of dudes. Which had to suck because you're holding the paper. Yeah, you're like, you're walking with like the Grim Reaper and stuff. Yeah, who was it? And who is walking with me afterwards? I think that's, there's a couple different people, but Matt was around a couple of those times. He was around there because he has had to be the Grim Reaper.

Yeah, and then you know the boys in the training room are like, come, you know, they kind of nod up. Like, you know, like, what's up? Yeah, like, it's trying to say what up to the boy, and you're like, Yeah, yeah, you just kind of shake your age, and go in Todd's office and, you know, you... Shit! Sign the thing, and then I went and saw it has, and you're just like, damn, then you get in your car, and you're just so mad.

You're like, man, you don't want to do, you don't want to do nothing. You know what I'm saying? Well, no, I got to get cut. You just went to pissed off. And then that's when I was able, that's when I talked to you. I was kind of told everybody that I got cut and stuff, and I'm talking to my agent, and he was like, you need to get back in there and sign, sign to the Peace Squad.

Like, what do you? And I'm like, yo, I'm like, you know, Neil, like, just, just let me be pissed off for a minute. Like, let me go home. Let me digest this. Like, sometimes you just want to vent. Yeah. Sometimes you want to fucking let the vending, the venting machine go, say some ridiculous shit that you know doesn't mean anything. Right, right, right, right, right.

Just say the F word way too many times. Yeah, just overdo it. I'm like, I know I'm being emotional right now. Like, and I know it's business and I got a this and that and this is the smart move, X, Y, Z. But I just want to be pissed off for a little bit. Yeah. It's a fucking ego thing, too. For sure.

I mean, we were talking. I don't put words in your mouth. Yeah. When we were talking, you're talking about practice squad. Yeah, I was like, you know, your pride's hurt. You know what I mean? You go back and you're like, you get cut and then you got to go through and then come back and then you're on practice squad.

You're like your pride's hurt. And you know, you know, you're talking about it from like an ego standpoint. You're like, yeah, but I mean, you had a good little. We had a good little conversation. Yeah, but like talking about that conversation because like, like, I think a lot of people when things don't go their way, they're more worried about what other people are going to think about the situation. And that's, that's what it, that's very.

much what it was like I was concerned like what you know going around the building now and then it's like oh you know will's on practice squad now you're just like you're kind of just doing it lesser right you're kind of just like doing it to yourself in your own mind like you don't right you know you just don't it was tough it was it was a shitty day dude and I'm just like you know laying in bed feeling sorry for myself you're like what was what was worse that day or the next day going in thinking about what are the guys going to say and then what did the guy say because I mean obviously it wasn't in the building at that point I think um after talking to Charo, having our FaceTime, talking to my agent again later that night, I was starting to get in a better headspace about it.

And then it was more like going in the next day, just getting through that initial first couple guy reaction or response. And then once I did that, like after all the conversations I was having with all you guys, like it was already like I was already trying to move on. Like, okay, how do I embrace this new little role for myself? Like, you know, you were telling me, you were talking about the camaraderie part and all the. these different aspects. And I'm like, you know, they're right. Like I, you know, what's the worst? Like at the end of the day, I wasn't like playing a shitload of defense.

Like, you know, you want to be out there contributing because that's what you feel worst about it. You feel like you can help the team. And you just want to be out there with the boys. You want to be out there on the, you know, sideline, giving energy, doing all this fun, you know, doing the stuff, doing whatever role you can. And so I'm like, now my role has shifted. Now, how do I make the most of this next role from where I basically started in the very

beginning of my career because that's what I felt like I was I was like I'm going all the way back I'm taking steps back and being on peace squad that's what I was telling myself initially anyway but once I got over that like it's been I've been having a great time now and plus with the guys like you get this point in the season you're fucking six seven weeks into the season nobody cares about what you're like other people are going through people are focusing on what their shit's going through yeah so someone here's someone like jon hey here will's on pious squad Jan's like, man, that sucks. Oh, man, I'm sorry, Will.

And then it's fucking over because, like, they got... They got their own stress. They got their own... Jan's trying to get paid. He's trying to fucking... How can I get this money? He's trying to learn a game plan for that week because every week's a test.

Right. And so it's kind of like, once you figure out the fact that you're not as big of a deal, like, as you probably thought you were. For sure. It's a, it's a load off. It's a huge load off your mind. Like, ain't nobody's going to think,

like, oh, Will's less than anything. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. You still made it eight years. in the league. And, I mean, I'll let you talk about this, but like, what is it financially? Because there's a lot of different ways you can go. Like, for some people, when they get hurt, there's a split in their contract. You don't have a split in your contract. Right. Well, my contract is terminated. Now I'm on a practice squad contract. So basically.

But you still make all the money you would have made throughout the season, right? That is, that is, that is, that is, you're potentially a lot. So what happens is if you're, when you're a vested veterans, so if you have three years and three games in, so if you have four credited seasons, you're a vested veterans. You get all the benefits of a veteran, like all the NFL stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When you're a vested veteran and you're on a week one roster in the season, you are guaranteed your salary no matter what happens. Now, it's not guaranteed like you still get paid week to week like you're on the roster. My contract got terminated.

But a vested veteran, a vet one time in their career, they're allowed during the January termination pay period file for termination pay. You're allowed to do that one time in your career as a veteran. in. Yeah. So myself, when January comes, you weigh all the options, weigh all the options, and you either file for termination pay, or you think in your mind, is there going to be

another opportunity to get termination pay later on in your career? Right. So that's basically what guys do. A majority of guys, basically everybody does it and takes it. Takes a termination pay. Yeah, right. And that's what all the boys around the league call referred to as double dipping. Because they get their salary. And now you get the P-Squod money.

And if a team were to activate, me or if I get, you know, on the active roster again, you can go to another team. Right, yes. Because I'm on Peace Squad. And I'm basically a, you know, a free agent. Or I can get picked up. I'm not a free agent, but you know what I mean.

You're basically, you're, you can be paid up by any other team. Right. But you're still making some sort of check week to week. Correct. It's just not, it's. Correct. So say the Colts picked me up. So best case scenario, it's all money.

Colts pick me up next week. I would go to the, from a money standpoint. From a money, this is financially. Yeah. I would start. getting a new minimum contract. I would start getting a new contract with the Colts organization. Then January comes around, I can file for termination pay because the Titans

terminated my contract in the middle of the year. And then that's where you get both salaries. So, you know, financially you would be winning. Would it be as much as twice as much? You would be like one and a half. You would get that pro rated. So say like Colts brought me on for a million dollars. I would get that, you know, however many weeks are left, I would get that pro

rate of those weeks. Correct. Because I have half the seasons left. So you get like 500,000 plus the first, the whole contract from what the Titans page in the beginning. So, I mean. So, yeah, I mean, you're not. Financially, this is the best, is a better move for you.

If you're in a, yeah, you kind of say I do file for the termination pay. I am getting, I got, you know, you get demoted, but you're getting, you can financially have better. Now, what would be a reason why you wouldn't file for termination pay? Um, say, I guess the scenario. I'm trying to paint a scenario to where it would happen for, like, say, myself. Let's just say the Titans reactivated me again, and I would get a new contract with the Titans, and I just completely go out of my mind and ball out to where I earn a three-year $15 million deal.

I would have to make the – I would have to choose in the January timeframe that, hey, I'm probably going to get a huge contract. Let's not fall for this termination pay because let's say I sign a huge deal. Like, say Vic. Let's just say Vic Beasley. Say I sign a deal like Vic. Yeah. And I get $9 million. And then say I get cut in the middle of the year next year.

I would get cut and now I would be able to get file for that termination pay on $9 million, not a minimum year deal. So it's like I would have to think in my mind that I'm going to get a huge deal to where it's like, don't waste your termination pay on this year. You want to waste your termination pay on like something where you're going to get big money. Right. Or last year's money or last years of your contract. Like Vic. is going to probably, I would assume, fought for termination pay.

He'll collect his, yeah, he's going to collect all of his money that the Titans owed him. I'll tell you what. But that's how termination pay works. This is a side note. And I know we, like, talking about football can be really hairy

in this pocket, especially during the season. Yeah. But I think when we watch the game this past week against the Bears, how well our defensive line did. Yeah. I think says a lot about, like, when you're a team guy and you do what the coaches tell you to do,

like, look how well our defensive guys did with, quote, quote like lesser named guys. Yeah. Team defense is huge. You take Vic out, you know. I don't know defense. So I don't know like if Vic was doing the way he was supposed to do. Obviously he wasn't doing what he was supposed to do if he got cut.

Like John and Braves don't play like that. I'm sure they had to have a very tough conversation about it because you, you know, you paid somebody a lot of money. Yeah. And I know there's a lot of people in Nashville that are really mad about the situation. And we got to be careful. I know we got to be careful. And,

but I think like it's a, it shows a lot about, shows a lot about Rable and this defense. like when dudes do do their job look how successful they were this past week right and you know which they showed more success this past week than they have the whole entire season right and to just swallow the pill like hey it didn't you know we made that mistake yeah well john i had a couple a couple conversations with john in the past um just him and i and john's not above saying when he's made a mistake or not like which is really cool because i think a lot of times like well c y a cover your ass a little

a little bit yeah coaches want to blame this or blame that and and rable and john are very much not like that, which is a refreshing. Don't worry, they got their own things. I mean, Ravel's got his own shit. He's a lot of, like, he loves Will. He loves calling out Will on the team meetings, but. He was talking to me, he pulled me, I was telling you about the joke yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like, what hot takes you got? What hot takes you got? I kind of lean back as early in the morning. I was like, what's up? He's like, what kind of hot takes you got? You've been on, I see you've been active on Twitter. And I was like, yeah, you know, I just, just enjoy myself. He means he's been active on Twitter.

Yeah. A, Raves is... He's got him to defend himself. He's a tier one guy, but living in a tier three world. He says his wife, Jen, checks Twitter. Which is he's full of it. You never know. We'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Because, again, I still got to walk in that building, boys. I had no problem sitting in a meeting next year in August with this coming up. Braves, I know you love the boys. I know you love watching all this shit. I know, he's like, you know, just be careful, you know, live tweeting during the game and stuff like that. And, you know, it's kind of like a thing. Like, you never want to, you know,

do anything that could potentially hurt the team, which I totally get. I do my best to make it celebratory around any kind of big play that a guy has or something like that, which, by the way, I thought of a great idea. Let's hear that after the podcast. Okay. I think it's a solid idea because it's going to come out after the game happens. Yeah. But.

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We're like, Derek's middle name's Lamar. Oh, we're doing, you're doing the idea right now? Yeah, I want to say it. I want to say it. I'm excited about it. It's Star Wars theme. It came to my mind when I was going and going to go back to come to the pod. And they're like, Joke.

They're like, Willie Earl, you know, people get fascinated to call me Earl. Willie Earl, because Derek found out my mental name was Earl. His middle name's Lamar. I'm like, okay, yours isn't that much better than mine. Well, Lamar's a much better name. Earl's a very, he's right. It's way better. Lamar, like, when I say the word Lamar right now, I think of two things.

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Yeah, you're in the chest club, dude. And some loafers. Yeah. But what about Juan? Arthur Juan. Oh, I love it. Yeah, you love it. I'm about it.

I think Juan's a great name. But anyway, so they're, you know, joking back. forth and stuff like that. Let me get to my idea. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. But,

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Arthur Juan Canobe. Pull up Obi-1-Kanoby. It'll make more sense here in a second. Taylor's not a Star Wars guy. For everybody that's not a Star Wars guy. I'm living with you right now. And are you guys, are you guys,

Star Wars, Boys? You are, Josh? Shut up, Josh. I always, I can, I can always believe about the galaxy and the universe. Pull up young, type in, type in a young Obi-Wan Kenobi. Put young in front of that Obi-Wan. I'm excited.

Dude, I'm telling you, I think this is going to be big. Remember that issue we said we were around to? Click on the one in the far right corner. Far right corner. This seems kind of a bit of a fucker. Do you see what's hanging off of his head? Oh, the little dangler. Obi-Wan, Canobi, Arthur Juan Canobi.

And they have a little rat tails hanging from him. their head. So when Arthur, when AJ, when he scores, we got to tweet out, we got to Photoshop him on a Jedi's body with a lightsaber, Arthur won Kenobi. And then I think a celebration, sorry, sorry, sorry. And then I think celebration wise, you do a force push or a force choke after a touchdown. You need somebody else. I've already told DB. But AJ needs to come up and do the force choke and DB needs to be lifted like he's getting choked. Does AJ, does AJ watch Star Wars? He's a huge fan. Hey, no, he doesn't.

I had the school him. Without the context of what you just explained, would people get that? Yes, absolutely. Star Wars Junkies would. Would you look at that and be like, Obi-Kwan Kenobi? And he's got a fucking rat tail, just like AJ does. Would you think that? We'll put the side by side and people will get it.

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Okay, no free shout-outs to the Mandalorian. But Star Wars is hot. There's pockets each year where something new drops. Hey, you know how big was Star Wars thing. Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch Manilor in the first season? Yeah, all of it.

Was it awesome? Yes. It was incredible. But you got all this going on. I guess what I'm saying is like we've created something that's going to be, I think, immaculate. So you, all right. So you think the immaculate idea you've had that's going to blast us into a galaxy far,

far away. You see what I did there? I need that energy. The immaculate thing, well, it's about the turn. So just stay with me. This fucking trajectory you're looking at is going to be the Photoshop face of Obi-Huan Kenobi on our Twitter feed. And that's going to be the thing that people fucking transition us into the galaxy far, far away.

And people are going to be so invested that they're going to be like, oh my God, the rat tail also that we can barely see falling off the corner that probably got cut up a little bit on the Photoshop. And Arthur's face, if he's got the rat tail too, even though you can't see the back of his head on this picture that they posted, that is the thing that's going to send us into a galaxy far far away. I think we're going to take AJ's celebrity and fandom to the next level.

So AJ is not a Star Wars fan. No, but he's going to do the celebration? Not yet. I haven't talked to about it yet. Or did AJ hear you say that, make fun of you and then laugh. I was trying to tell him. He kept saying, hey, understand me? You know how he is?

You know, understand me. He's like, no horseplay. I don't do horseplay. By AJ, I'm not trying to horseplay. Yeah, let's call him. This is great. But I, guys, picture this. Thursday night, you guys are going to listen to this,

and you're going to know if he scored or had a big player or not, and you're going to know if it already happened. But when he makes a big play or say a touchdown, we'll just say touch him, but big catch, something like that, I'm going to just tweet from one of you guys, whoever does the artwork, his face on a Jedi's body. And it's going to say, and I'm just going to put Arthur one Kenobi.

and I think it's going to be a banger. That's what I think. I think it's going to be a banger. And you're funny, dude. You know how much I love my Star Wars. The first Christmas, Taylor and I had together. Hey, did you? It's the first person I've ever called my own teammate that didn't answer.

Did you hear what I said? No, what you said. Our first Christmas together. Taylor and I's first Christmas together. His gift to me was a bunch of like Star Wars stuff. A Star Wars waffle maker, a Darth Vader waffle maker, a Yoda. ornament. I'm a big Star Wars guy.

Big Baby Yoda guy. Everything's Star Wars. And when I was walking and picking up my lemon pepper wings from the cafeteria and I thought to myself, the young Obi-Wan Kenobi, because I kept calling him Arthur Juan Kenobi, and he was getting like, hey, I'm not horse playing. I'm like, listen, you don't

understand how this is actually cool. Then when I realized that the young Obi-Wan had the little rat tail, cancel Christmas. Game over. Like, we just found something that, again, I think we're going next level.

Yeah. You know what? If that's the thing that takes us into the next atmosphere. Maybe not us, but we're promoting the, we're promoting AJ. Yeah, we can promote AJ by saying,

good job, AJ. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that is that around the same exact. The people who hear this and their Star Wars junkies, they're going to cut the game because when AJ scores,

I hope we post that. It's not going to have hardly as much traction as you think. I think so. Hey, I think so. Unless I don't think so. Unless he put, unless like Alex puts like,

I'm going to do it. The emotion you think this picture gives you. This is a, you know what I'm saying? It's some shit like that. The point of this was Vrable was talking to me about tweeting during the game. And when he scores and I celebrate a teammate scoring and it's AJ, I'm just going to put Arthur Juan Canobi.

And it's going to be the photo of him as a Jedi. Yeah. And I think it's. How many retweets? Over under 50. Over. What do you guys think? What do you guys think?

It's not like you have to put your name on it and Taylor's going to be mad at you. The only way to be over it? Yes, I'm tweeting it. You would do over 50 for sure. Easy. What are you saying? Josh.

Josh knows because Josh is going to, Josh already thinks like that's phenomenal. You guys are Star Wars jokies. There are six people on this bus and you and Josh have hit it. That means you've hit what? What's one sixth? I know I'm getting one retweet.

You're going to get two. I'm going to retweet it too. Oh, appreciate it. That's what I'm saying. I need that energy. I'm with it. Yeah. All right.

I thought I have an enthusiasm too. I'm with you on that. I know you're a Star Wars guy. I know you're not. And I know it's like you have something against Star Wars. I know you don't. You're just not like in the... Star Wars, Star Trek.

Like I've seen some of the ones. I feel like, man, I wish I could feel that excitement will's feeling about Star Wars. I get that about other things. I'm in Spooktober. I'm obsessed. Yeah. Like I was like, I guess I loved Halloween. You just introduced me to it.

But when I saw your excitement about it, I was like, I want that piece. I want that piece. of what he's feeling. I need that inside. You? You want that inside you? I didn't go all the way through it.

I didn't go all the way through with it. That piece he's feeling. I want that inside me is what you were just like to say. You just didn't say me. No pause. Thank you. Of excitement and enthusiasm. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, dude, one thing we got to talk about too. No pause. Like, during the football season, a lot of things come up. A lot of things happen. A lot of menly men out there, like watching the football games. But there's one thing that also comes. during football season that we can't sleep on. And that's the fucking Bachelorette.

Dude, before we talk about the Bachelorette. Listen, here's a deal. Some shit just went down with the bus. We've said it since day one. When you're on the bus, ebbs and flows. All right, yin-yang, shit's going to go down. Shit's going to go up. We don't have to train anymore. RIP the fucking train.

RIP, dude. Listen, it said that we lost all the audio and shit from this podcast, which the only thing that would break our heart, that who got their heartbroken more by hearing that was probably our tier ones, but don't worry. It's all good. it's all worked out. There was almost a fight. There was almost a fight.

Boss and Josh were talking over me when I was trying to do shit. I asked if things were okay. Boss looked back and gave me a thumbs up. It's veterans day, so I'm not going to say shit to him. But thumbs were not up. Thumbs were definitely to the side, like in Gladiator. Josh, do you, Josh. He looked, boss looks back.

He's like, is everything good? He kind of gives a weird little thumbs up. And then I was like, no, it's not. And doesn't go. What's going on? And Josh sitting back there. Oh, I, I, I don't know what happened.

Like, oh, shit just went down. So Alex shut the shit down. Turns out we lost everything. We got everything back. I don't know how we lost in them. Recovery so fast. It was the easiest treasure hunt of all time. But somehow, one way or another, we were on the bachelor.

And if I'm going to put myself out there like this, I want to finish the goddamn thought. All right? This girl, what's her name? What's the blonde girl's name? Claire. Hey, lower your tone. Sorry. Lower your tone.

Sorry. I know. Claire. All right. We'll just refer to her as the not as good one. Yeah. But we'll call her Claire out of respect for her right now. But she's not as a good one.

Claire falls in love with this dude named Dale, all right? They don't even show Dale's personality the entire show. Turns out she's so in love. She doesn't give any of the other guys a fighting chance. So every time she's literally being interviewed saying, yeah, when I'm talking to these guys, like, all I can think about is Dale. And how much I love Dale. And then this shows the other guy she was just talking to, like,

yeah, I think we had a really good connection and things are going really well. I really think I have a fighting chance. am I getting feelings for her? Yeah, I thought things were going well. And I've never seen so many ex-football players on The Bachelorette also. There's three of them, right? Yeah.

There's easy. You look them up and they're all, you know. Hey, they're all P-Squod cats. No offense. Hey, my thought, when we were going to do the pod, like when it happened a couple weeks ago, I was like, I just put out that tweet about the practice squad guys being on the Bachelorette.

Like, should I file for the Bachelorette. Yeah, hey, you got to be on that? Would Charles be mad? Like, I have to because I'm a practice squad player. Like, it's what those guys do. Googling can you be married while doing the backslare-up. Fucking. So what is her name?

Claire. We're mad at her. I'm a really upset of her. So Claire can't even let the show develop in a way it needs to do. And I'm sounding contradictory because me, I proposed my wife in five weeks. We got married in two months. Like we're extremely happy. But we're also one on a TV show.

And Tailing didn't believe her biological clock was sticky. Claire had a lot of shit going on with her, all right? And the worst thing about it was. it is Claire will not let Dale talk at all. Will not let him finish a fucking sentence. Did you have he been the show? No. Have you watched it last night?

So when they're like so so so Claire ends up babies. Yeah babies he's like ha ha well I think we might not I don't know and he's like then she talks again. But so Claire decides that she wants to be with Dale. Dale proposes which I think was that episode was hilarious because all these dudes are like if anybody knows Dale everyone knows that Dale doesn't want to get married yet. he's not ready to get married. Yeah. And then he goes and proposes and I'm like, dude, this is, that's the most made up the show has ever been right there.

Well, what a tough spot for Dale to be in, too, because it's like she wants to call the whole show and just be with Dale. And then he was like a asshole. Yeah. And then who hosts the show with Chris Harrison. Chris Harrison. He's like, he's got to go tell Dale like, hey, she wants to call it. She picks you. Now it's up to you if you're going to propose to her.

And the dinner, the dinner date they had before. Yeah. He was like, yeah. Like when she was saying she's falling in love with him, he's like, yeah, I'm really excited. We have so much time to see where this goes. Like, said that like three or four times. Yeah. So Dale's not really in this thing.

Fast forward to this next episode. Yeah. All right. Well, not. The most recent episode. The most recent episode. Claire leaves. The guys are upset.

Rightfully so they should be mad. I totally get they should be mad. But then they bring in some girl named 10. Taisha. Taisha. Taisha. Taisha. She's beautiful. She's like got the, she's, she's exotic looking. She's got a gorgeous smile. And she's got a very positive warm presence. These dudes, no offense, Claire, have just absolutely leveled up. Dude, they're so hype.

Because the shit at first wasn't great because they're at fucking La Quinta Inn Resort and Palm Springs, California. And the game's getting called. They've been waiting. months because of COVID they're waiting around. They've been waiting months for this game, this competition. And it's canceled within like a couple shows. And Dale gets to, he just wins it all. Like he just takes, except for Jason. Jason was heartbroken.

Jason was the football player, right? The ex-jointed. Jason is one of the ex-fowl players. He was heartbroken. Had to go sit down with Taisha and be like. He had to leave. Yeah, like I got to go because I think I fell in love with Claire. And when he left, Taisha's just like, that's a man right there.

And I was like, damn, you know what that is a fucking man? This dude didn't care about being on the show. he just said, I really had feelings for this woman. Now that it's gone, I don't know if I can give you everything. I need to go. Good for him. That dude fucking, he's done a good job. He probably made Taisha want him.

Probably. And the most fucked up thing about The Bachelorette is they have 16 guys who have been to the absolute ringer. And then these dudes get through the damn car wash, their feelings are hurt. And to make matters worse, they bring in four new dudes. Oh, and it's like they're squatted up at this point, old squad versus new squad. Because even Jason on the way out, he's like sticking up for the guys who were there the whole time. Right, right. They're on teams.

Because Spencer, why did they add guys? They added guys because it's basically a whole new season. So there's 16, four been cut already. So they brought a four new ones in. This dude named Spencer is already a major frontrunner, who's a new cat. Oh, he walked in with some thunder too. Which one of you guys scared away, Claire? Yeah.

Oh, shit. And then goes and does the first impression with her and stuff. Yeah. He gets the first impression. Rose dude showed up 15 minutes ago. Yeah. And it's going to be a bumpy little row. He's got a little accent to him, too.

I'm just like, he seems like a... He seems like a bit of a bitch. And then he does. He will... He doesn't seem like a bitch, but like, when they were playing in the pool, they have, like... So during the week, for those you have to watch, you should really watch a show. It's like they do group dates, and then they do like a one-on-one. And sometimes dudes want group dates.

Some dude do you don't want one-on-ones. And then they end up playing, like, pool of basketball. They called it Splashball. I just plays pool basketball in high school with my buddies There's no one more violent than me I can already assume that You've ever fucking seen

So a couple of dudes don't like the Spencer cat Start throwing some bows Cut up his lip a little bit Yeah He was acting a little bit like a bitch A little bit He was getting some attention He played it right though

Which he did a good job Yeah And so Like him and Tayesha sit down And she's like Yeah It seems like the guys You're going kind of hard

To you do Like was that like a personal thing. He's like, well, probably with the rose and all that. And then he goes to give her a kiss and he goes, oh, no, my lip. And gives her a little side kiss. And kisses her like right here. Like, bro, just kiss on the little, it's got a cold sore. It's her

cuts. And even if you kiss on the side, like kiss her on the cheek, what is this right here? Like, you just hear. This is the main spot where Zitsko. Yeah. Fuck. I got a couple. Hey, it's all right. I got the beard. But a dude, fucking, and then, hey, what did a buddy say to him? We call. The dude that's in Detroit.

We call guys like you lunch me. And the guy said there, the guy said there goes, oh, okay. He goes, what did he say? Like, if you ever, uh, something about where I came from, but if you ever want to, we see dudes like you. Yeah. If you ever want to go, let me know.

We'll roll or something like that. And he's like, oh, fuck. He goes, noted. Noted. Noted. And then ends up getting up, walking off and leaving. And then Taisha, this is why Taisha is an absolute stud. Love this girl.

the death. They go, they have, there's a rose ceremony every week. Yeah. And she's like, you give out a ceremony of roses. In the beginning, lots get cut towards the end. One get cut. Boom, boom, boom, boom, slow deaths for everybody except for one. Chris Harrison walks in. She goes, you know what? This week, no one's getting cut. Everyone made it. Like, shout out to her. Yeah. For letting that shit go down, even though it was probably the producer saying you should probably do this. Everyone got a rose. Right. Everyone got a rose. Everyone moved forward. But Spencer's going to cause some issues. We're going to continue to keep you guys. guys updated on the Baterrette talk.

We enjoy it. The boys enjoy it. Maybe we'll get Sean Boothin and get his. We should get Booth and get him in or get him in and update. But he says he doesn't watch a show anymore. We'll update him. All right. We got to get to, we got to call Cam. Yeah, we do.

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and possibly Tom Brady's father The first father ever to be younger By about 15 years than his actual son It's a beautiful thing, ladies gentlemen. Hey, hang on, hang on, but what's the number one thing he does? He's the host of trust. levels podcast. He's a host of trust levels podcast. And that intro

could not have gone worse if I tried even harder. All right. Cam, listen, you guys had a great game last week against Tom Brady. All right. 38 to 3. First play of the game. You take Tristan Wirf, rookie, take him, put him on roller skates, show him this is how you play the game of football,

put him into the back of Tom Brady, and swiped him. Could have possibly been a hands of the face. Could have been a penalty. But it was not a penalty. Ending up dominant, the first time Tom Brady's ever been swept in his career in divisional games. How do you feel about that? What's the vibe like in the locker room?

Obviously, we saw the vibe. But how are you feeling about that? I mean, you know, we were more excited about control what we can control, right? So, you know, they had eight total yards rushing. Ooh, that's tough. As an office alignment. What else? Hey, what else?

He's got more. What else? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's plenty of pressures. I mean, I feel like, you know, we were constantly, you know, from the first play on to the last play, we were constantly in the space. you love to see a quarterback get frustrated at his offensive lineman when he's no longer like looking at the defensive lineman He's right. He's right. All the things you said were like the most triggering things for me to hear I'm like I'm over here in my I'm crawling on my skin I would hate to be an office alignment for tom right now would you would it be fair to say that you guys run the NFC South

I mean I'm in the C South champs some would say you know Tampa Bay was the favorite second son so they're going to stay right right there. You know, somebody's, you know, we're going to keep on pressing. I'm going to wait until the end of the season. So what you're saying is you hear the chirps outside the building when they're trying to crown the buccaneers and you're just letting them know, hey, we brought the brooms to the game like we still run this thing?

You know, until you get knocked off the mountain, you're still at the top. I love it. Hey, I'll tell you, I love the confidence, dude. And I think shows more confidence in your postgame celebration. First off, whose camera was that? How did the Sellea get going? And was Sean Payton in that thing dancing? I saw Sean Payton.

What do you guys call that whole light club thing you guys got going on? I'll say, you know, you know, Club Little Saint been going on for about four years now, three. What? What do you say? Club Little Saint? Little Saint, little. Okay. I think that's what the defense is dubbed.

I don't know if it has an official name. We've never looked wider. Yeah, I know. We're in New Orleans. Hey, that shit is fun to see, dude. Seeing Sean Payton get in the mix and mix it up with the boys. How dope is he as a head coach and having him around. I also see that he retweets every now and then.

he pokes his head on social media on Twitter once in a while. The man's battled and whooped COVID, and he's dancing in the locker room and Club Lil Saint. What is it like to have him as a head coach? I mean, you know, anybody that's been around, Sean, knows that he's a challenging, you know, coach. He's somebody who is clearly an opposite-minded guy, so luckily I don't have to deal with him unless we're screwing up.

Yeah. Like the only time he comes down and really talk to us is if he doesn't like what we're doing. You know, and that's like after a couple series. So if he comes down, you're like, all right, we got to tighten the fuck up. Yeah. Other than that, like, we're on. Like, you know, he'll come down. He'll be like, like, as long as you get the ball back, he got 50 plays.

And I love him all. I'm like, oh, shoot, we're going to put up 50 points on him. And he'll really try and put 50 points on somebody's head, like anybody. I kind of like that, though. That far as go. Go for two at the end of the game when you're up by 24 because he can't go for three, that kind of mentality. Exactly.

I like that. It's greasy. And like, it brings the edge to everybody. Like, when you're talking. you got a head coach talking greasy to players on the field. Yeah, yeah. We're coming at 2 number 23. Oh, you all day, every day.

Make sure to look up the word greasy when we're done with this interview. We're way too wide on this pot. I have no idea what to do you know. Hey, that fires me up though, dude. Dude, speaking of greasy or whatever, different kind of dudes, rewind a couple years ago, all right? Was on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers out there eating Ws like there are Whoppers? going viral going viral that made me uncomfortable and i love to have james on the podcast to talk about

this because it's always better hear from the horse's mouth but he was eating w's two years ago putting his full fingers in his mouth by the way like that that's in there yeah that's grimy my friend but then you go to the celly this past week and he's in there and you know what i love most about james winson he dies in the sword all right what happened a few years later he's on a different team still in the nfc south and he's nondon than things what like what what Hey, what do you say to him? He embraced it, you know? Right.

Everybody made fun of them until all of a sudden, them dubs is actually mean and winning. Yeah. Those dubs were like the East Coast style, like, oh, man, that's a dub. Like, it's like, hell, now it's finally that way. The dubs finally mean what they're supposed to mean. So now everybody's like, ah. No, they do it too. Have you done it?

Have you eaten a W? That's probably as close as you're going to see me eat a dove. I'm not like, it's cringeworthy to me, but. Was it cringe-worthy when you see it? him sneak it in in the uh in club little sane after the game dancing last but certainly not least with the boys this support for bussing with the boys comes to you from manscaped jingle balls all the way to the walls fellas listen up the best below the belt grooming is manscaped they offer precision engineered tools for your cute little family jewels untrim pubs are the thing of the past

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Your balls will thank you. Merry Christmas, little balls. He embraced it. He did embrace it. When you say no white T's in the club, no eating Ws in the club. Yeah. I would have told him, get your ass out of here with that shit. That is a little bit ridiculous.

The W thing kind of throws me off a little bit. But if he's your teammate, got to respect. That's what we're here on this podcast all about. We're always for the boys. It's always about support. Like, you just got to, you know, that's your thing. That's your thing. Oh, my.

It's going to be from the side like this. God. That's a bit of a deal right there. Yeah, yeah, you got it. That's a bit of a deal. So you are now one of the very few active NFL players with a podcast in Trust Levels podcast with your boy, Mark Ingram. Phenomenal podcast.

You guys have a little, nice little star-studied guests. What's it like stepping into a new spotlight while you're playing and having a podcast like the Trust Levels podcast? I mean, you know, when you're kicking it with your boys, there's nothing new. It's not like we're going out of our realm and like talking to, you know, Stephen A. Smith or like some basketball guys or, you know,

at this point, it's just like what we're doing here. We're just kicking it with people that we know on and off the field. So it's not like, it's not like awkward vibes, like trying to figure out who we are, give you like some straight-laced story. I'm kicking it. I'm relaxed. Like it's, it's all just fresh vibes.

Especially when you talk about me and Mark, who played our first eight years together. I lived in his house, you know, the first like three weeks of my career in New Orleans because it was a lockout year and I didn't have a spot in New Orleans. Yeah. And he was already trained out here.

So I like bummed on this couch for three weeks. Yeah. That doesn't bring anybody closer. I don't know what will. Hey, that's true. True. Blum it on a couch goes a long ways.

I tell you what. So what made you guys want to do the podcast now? Because I will, I want to rewind. once again to about a year and a half ago, there were nobody. There was no active football players doing a podcast, and then two brave men bought a bus and decided to start their own podcast.

Active football players start to. Now there's as far to go as several, which anybody who looks that up is more than three. If you go, if you're going by the standards when we kind of sit back and look, you got trust levels and busing to where we feel like. The Becanti twins also have their podcast too. Yeah, they do.

But they stopped during this. They're not doing it during the season. That's what I respect about the trussos is they're still dropping one a week. They're doing it in season. And the other one's like Russell. I want to say Kirk might have a podcast, but they're under their umbrella of the organization. They're like doing it with the organization. And people do that all the time.

I don't know if the Saints do that, but the Titans used to have like a radio show. They do like a one hour thing. It's like a, it's like a week. Yeah, and they're asking questions and it's kind of cheesy. Right. The Titans did that. I did that my second year. And it's, I love this because it's more.

raw. It's more real. And you get to see different vibes of just this guy with a helmet on whose dominant pass rusher. You get to see more of his personality too. And it's very cool that you guys are now on different teams still doing the same thing. But I'm sure a lot of courage to start this thing did come because of the two brave men

Will Compton and Taylor Lawan starting their own podcast. No doubt. No doubt. You know, I would say, you know, we definitely know about the bus and boys, you know. But, you know, we also, you know, look at like, you know, Chris Long's green light situation. Yeah. Former, former player.

Right. And then, but we really, this off season, you know, COVID, we were just sitting back. And, you know, we always, you have so much time just sitting in the house. And, you know, I got three kids to the house. I'm like, I got to do something else. Yeah. Like, what else? Hey, yeah.

Hey, three kids is a lot. Three kids is a hell of a lot. Yeah. And then so it was just like, you know, I started up like Cam's corner on some IG live, just chilling type stuff. Yeah. Like, you know, I was just calling friends around the lead from Clayers Campbell to, you know, Keenan Allen to Marv Jones, Brandon Cooks, you know, guys you play with in college or whatever.

And I was like, I was like, this is sort of fun, you know, let's invite somebody else. Like, let me get my dog involved. And who else would be better than somebody that, you know, we've got traveled around the world together with, partied around the world, played football with one, you know, gone to the playoffs multiple times with. So I was like, you know, bring it in. And then so just went in there. You know, I'm levels after every sack. And he became, you know, he bitch.

trust. So it was just a no-brainer. We snapped that thing up. So that's, that's why it's called trust levels, because he's big trust and you do the levels. You do the levels and I'm level. Hey, one plus one is two, baby. You know, it makes it easy. That is good math. Hey, you've done it. Hey, so, hey, you've done it. That's how it came about is you doing IG lives and during during quarantine and then you're like, yo, let's put together a pod. Flip it. Yeah, flip it. Let's let's have some real fun with it. Like, instead of doing these five, 10 minute, you know, 15 minute sessions, like we can really show our followers between me and him. you know, whatever it is on the ground.

I was like, we could turn this into something. And then pitched it, sold it, you know. So you pitch it to Player's Tribune. Sorry, my bad, my bad. No, you do whatever you want, baby. It's our podcast. I know, I know. I just get sit there.

I'll tell you what. It's impressive to see because I think a lot of people, I think LeBron James talks about all the time, just play basketball comments and stuff like not being able to diversify yourself and kind of put yourself out there. That's been something in the past. You hear the old heads, the guys that played 10, 15 years before us.

Like, we stayed in our lanes back in the day and we made sure that, you know, offense linemen were just offensive linemen and ho-hum guys and defense linemen just did this, blah, blah, blah, it's really cool to see that dudes are evolving and now showing their personalities and showing younger kids that it's cool, it's okay to be your own person. And I think that's a huge thing is that's the biggest issue I had with football or have with football is so many times they try to put you in the box. Like you got to act a certain way. You got to be this type of guy when you can be whoever you want as long as you produce.

and, you know, then you're going to have the opportunity to do stuff like this. Even on the football field, you know, they try and put you in a single box. They tell you you're a four technique or a three technique or a five, it's primarily a five. And it's like until you prove that you can do more, they just try and relegate you to one spot. You know, it's like you're the left tackle, but they tell you like you can't pull sometimes. Like you're not, you're not the preferential pulling tackle. Like, you know, they're always going to try and put you in the box, but it's up to us to, you know, see how we see ourselves. Right.

And then if you decide to be relegated into a box, that's on you. That just means, you know, you decide to let your alfut chill out. Or sometimes you just, you got an alpha out, bro. So, hey, that's the best way to get notice is just to become an alpha. That's for damn sure. And you've definitely done that, dude. We're definitely happy to have you on the podcast. We appreciate it.

Hey, the boys are always wanting to go on trust levels. Dude, hey, when we're in the off-season camp, we got to figure out a way to collaborate or do something because we got to blow it up that we are, you know, we're carrying the torch for everybody else who's going to come into this podcast, world with us. Hey, I promise you, hey, when we kick off this, you know, the next season, and we're going to be calling y'all up. Sometimes this off season, you know, when we,

when we, quote, unquote, you know, ain't got much going on. I was going to go on. I love it. He said, oh, it's going to go. Have you, had any stress with doing the podcast? Have you learned anything about like, hey, this is a little, it's a little different than what I thought it might be?

I mean, IG Live was simple because it was on my time. I was like, yo, every Wednesday around five o'clock I'm a hop-on. Yeah. friend you know uh podcast is like after you after we record it it's like hey bro i'm to send you you this clip if you like it you know let me know what you don't like yeah most guys are like yeah man like it's love like you know i say i'm trust you and then you have like one or two guys like i don't like this part all right let me let me let me talk to them and try and yeah

yeah that's hilarious that's awesome you know you got an hour worth of material to cut down to 40 minutes you're like but some of this like the other 20 is is the fire part don't cut up. Right. That's the shit that people want to talk about. But you don't want to talk about it. So it's out. Yeah. Hey, sometimes ours run like an hour and a half. Yeah. Sometimes there's, ours are way too long. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Hey, that's part of the big trust levels though. You got to have big trust to get to the levels of that. Hey, just sit here, start acting like. Hey, hey, chew, chit, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, you know, now, now, you know, me and you from Arizona. So, got to love that.

Hey, big, big, big confidence swinging. Like, oh, oh, yeah, we're blue state. I'm sure Taylor's like, somehow we became a blue state. I'll tell you what, dude. I think everything in life needs checks and balances. And that's what our government's made on. Blue president, red Senate, I'm happy. Keep the taxes a little lower. And that's, hey, if that's all good, I'm all good.

Was Drew Breeze upset? Yeah, was Drew Breeze upset? We no longer have to worry about who's tweeting what at 2 o'clock in the morning. No doubt. Oh, we have a president now. Yeah. It's pretty bad when other countries are celebrating us having a new. No question.

Right. No question. I'll tell you what. Some people don't think it's over, though. Some people think we'd never want to get into politics around, but some dudes, some dudes think shit's going down. We're talking down. I'm about done with this line. I'm like sinking back. Oh, shit.

Here we go. No. Growing up in Arizona, though, you never would have thought it would have been a swing state. We were always read, always. And now. The last 24 years. Yeah. It's crazy.

Unbelievable. I felt like my vote actually mattered. I'm over here walking around big chest around the locker. I'm like, what's up, fellas? Yeah, I voted. Stickers all over you and stuff. Yeah, I voted. Saving them.

Are you registered in Arizona? You know, which way Arizona swung, you know? Yeah, I did that. Oh, no doubt. Well, fuck. That's about as far as I'm willing to tow the line of politics. I'm fucking, that's it right there. That's dumb.

No doubt. I understand. Hey, we know you, we know you got to get the meetings. I, we genuinely appreciate you coming on the bus right after practice. Like I texted yesterday, I love your commitment. Much appreciated coming on the bus, wrapping it up with the boys, kicking it with the boys, go enjoy your meetings.

Good luck. Who do you guys play this weekend? The Niners. Niners. All right. Is Trent Williams playing? I'm not even going to talk about it. We're going to focus on what we can control.

There you go. I love it. Is Trent Williams playing? I believe so. I think he's been out the last couple weeks. Has he? Yeah, he was out. He was out a couple weeks.

I don't know when he was. He's my favorite tackle on the lead to watch. I love that dude. He's a stud. So athletic, so strong. I was like, he definitely believes he's a mauler. And I'm like, but you're sort of finesse guy. But, you know.

Hey, you can be both. That's what they say. That's what they say. If you're athletic enough, you can be both. Cam will find out. Can he's going to find out. Tring gets to find out. Can't play.

Can't play more in the right title. He's going to get McGlinchy, white guy. Yeah, yeah. Did Cam get you at all last year? No, Cam didn't get me. Cam, uh, Cam, uh, came over one time. He caught that, he cut that, he cut the Mario block one time and that was it. Hey, DeMario.

Hey, DeMario got my ass last year. He, but, oh, decluded me, bro. I don't know why you always bring that shit up with. I know, you know. He was in the States for 46 hours and he's fucking, every time the Saints comes like, my fucking boys out there. Oh, hey, it's rolling. I'll tell you what, fuck this.

I'm done with the podcast, dude. I know, tomorrow, tell tomorrow I said, what's up, and I can't wait to play you guys again, because he's definitely fucking decleting me, and that was not tight at all. That was not fun to be a part of. I get you back. I'm going to get his ass back.

There's no question about it. He's a good player, though. Absolutely, bro. Like, you know, we've just, you got to keep your hits and keep on rolling. It's not, you know, what coach say? It's not a crime to get put on the ground. It's crime to stay on the ground. No question.

So, you know. That's why you do bench press to get yourself up as fast you can't. Push yourself up. Get out there. Hey, real quick. hit that Marchion Lynch mentality. You know, I'm going to get got, but I'm going to give more than I got got. That's right.

That's right. Appreciate you, Cam. Yeah, brother. Y'all take it easy. See you. I see it, bro. I used to see that boy coming up with the fucking Blue State. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, hey.

Check some balances. He goes, I know, Taylor probably like, yeah, when we sing Blue one, oh, shit. I kind of was. Those are just to start beads. I'm sweating, man. Yeah. You're like checks and balances. you know, 50. I'm like, hey, what's your brief saying?

No one. You heard the joke. I didn't hear the joke. That would have been a solid one. That would have been a solid one. Hey, that was solid. I like that. I like the Zoom thing. That's fucking easy too. We just read off the damn thing. Yeah, that was good, bro. Yeah.

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