Bussin' With The Boys - Ameer Abdullah Interview + Weekend Recap

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

Recorded: July 11, 2021 | Current Carolina Panther and former Nebraska Cornhusker legend Ameer Abdullah hops on the bus for this weeks banger. But before we jump into the interview the boys needed to do a little weekend recap. (2:20) College football recap (17:03) NFL Recap (21:19) Jake Paul rematch with Tyron Woodley (26:38) Ameer Abdullah interview starts (28:44) Greatest Nebraska running back of all time? (41:00) Playing for Bo Pelini (54:00) Transition from Nebraska to the NFL (1:20:24) The time Ameer thought Will was doing meth (1:25:00) Ameers production company Creative House and the definition of success By the time you read this you and whole entire world will have already tweeted and talked about how the boy Comp signed with the Raiders so stay tuned for the Vegas content!! ----- EARN YOUR WOLF: Want to be featured on our Instagram Story? Screenshot this episode, tag @bussinwtb, and share it to your Story. The Boys will take care of the rest... ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Rhoback: Go to https://barstool.link/bussin and use the code BUSSIN for 20% off your first order! Roman: Go to https://barstool.link/RomanBWTB you can get your first month of Swipes for just $5, when you choose a monthly plan. Sling: Visit Go to https://barstool.link/Sling to sign up now and get your first month starting at 10 dollars. Sport Clips: Sport Clips, the Pros in Men’s Hair. WhistlePig Whiskey: Visit barstool.link/piggybackryesmash for more info and make sure you grab a box in select stores!For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We can talk about bowl games that were picked. Some bowl games are set up because, again, Nebraska's out of it. I'm called spade to spade. I do think everyone now knows looking back throughout the entirety of the year that it's like, damn, Will, he's so emotionally involved and attached. He's biased, of course, when it comes to Nebraska. It's tough to watch him think that a three and nine team is one of the better team. in college football. However, I do think people are like, but you got to admit the boy's not crazy

for saying they're the greatest three-win team of all time. The data's out there. The stats are out there. This is the single-handedly greatest three-win football team you guys will ever witness. And unfortunately, they won't be talked about, but I do think we have put a flag in the ground. And from here on out, this year will be known as the greatest three-win team of all time, courtesy of bust with the boys because all of the shouting and everything was right here. You know what I mean? No matter how Nebraska does for the entirety of our lifetimes, people will think back and be like,

remember when comp was right about that three-win football team? Tough to watch them think the three-win football team was a good football team, but the man wasn't crazy. I don't even know what I was saying. I wanted to get that off my chest. But knowing that Nebraska is out of it, it is a, we're still at war. It just moves from Nebraska to not.

Now we're in the Big Ten. It is war between the Big Ten and the SEC, just like it is every year. They think we're inferior. We think they're inferior. We got a lot of laughing going on back here. Jackie Boy, I'm going to tell you right now, Tennessee might take a few strays in this conversation that we have. Nothing. Hey, hang on.

I haven't said nothing yet. I never get pressed over Twitter mentions because I think this is coming from Twitter, right? Because I saw some Tennessee fans. I'll tell you where it's coming from my workout this morning. I was working out of boost. Coup was getting me riled up. my trainer coop and my boy Spencer Pooley who played at Vanderbilt, a very lowly respected football program.

Those dudes are firing me up. And I'll tell you why. I'm going to get to it in a minute. I just want to get out in front of that because I do have love for Tennessee Vols fans out there. But what I was saying about it being war with the Big Ten, our team, if you're a part of any Big Ten football team, any Big Ten city that you live in, any team that you shout on the mountaintops

for your team in the Big Ten, whether you're a Wisconsin fan, Iowa fan, we put our swords down now because we all need to be rooting for each other in both season and this BCS title game because we got the boys in Michigan, the boys in blue, they're in the tournament. We need them to win.

If you're a Nebraska fan thinking I'm crazy, we need Michigan to be the national champions because we only lost those motherfuckers by three. And we need that. We need that to help our cause to continue to be the greatest three-win team of all time. But my problem, and you guys saw me tweet it right when I woke up, right when I woke up and I looked at Twitter and I'm going to be honest. I'm truly, I was baffled when I saw Alabama jumped Michigan in the rankings to become the number one team in the college football playoff.

Do you guys think I'm crazy for being baffled? Like is that is that not surprising that Alabama's ranked number one? Here goes. Here goes. Garrett, by the way, guys, he's a Bama fan. So it could get physical, to be honest. Do I even need to speak then if it's going to get physical? No, I want to hear what you think.

We should start driving, man. What did Jelly say? I got lightning in these hands. You don't want to find out. I don't think it's like crazy. I mean, we did beat the number one team in the country who was supposed to dog walk us and that shit didn't happen. Both fair points.

That's all I got to say. Okay. I can respect that. There's people out there, you guys from this morning, that are like, it's a no-brainer because they beat the number one team in the country. Now, you can argue Georgia was averaging, giving up seven points a game, right?

But I think what was eye-opening about this whole situation is the SEC East is just a fraudulent-ass division. You're playing, well, bring up the SEC East real quick, because, number one, I know Mizzou's in there, Vanderbilt's in there You know, beloved, I listen, Tennessee fan, Tennessee fan, Tennessee is in there Who else is in there?

Who else is in there? Florida. Florida, okay, Mullen fired. Florida was fraud from the get-go. Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina. That's right. Georgia's best win

after that blowout loss is now Kentucky, a nine and three Kentucky team. You can argue, yes, it's a decent football team. but the way Alabama just mopped them just shows you like okay Georgia was playing all these frauds all year long

that's why they're holding these teams at seven points I've got ties on both both sides so the reason I just don't understand what the SEC East has to do with all this stuff are you just talking about Georgia

just being a league for a little team well yeah obviously all the people who on Twitter that we're talking like it's just nonsense that I was thinking that Michigan should be number one. Michigan was number two. It just got done waxing Ohio State. One of the best offenses in the country.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I'll let you talk. Okay, you talk. One of the best offenses in the country. And then they take care of business against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship. This Iowa should have Iowa even been in the Big Ten championship? That is arguable. They're not that tough of a football team.

They're not that good. They don't play Ohio State. They don't play these teams on the other side, like Michigan, Ohio State, all these teams. They play them like once every four years. That is arguable. But you're going to keep the integrity of these rankings, right? If Alabama does what they do against Georgia, which they whip their ass, they did what they

needed to do. They only go to one if the number two team who just got done waxing Ohio State. If they don't beat Iowa like they should have beat Iowa, like they did beat Iowa, then they do go up to number one. But what do you want Michigan to do? They just won 40-something to three. They should be the number one football team in America. And then you throw Georgia back to four.

the same games. I'm arguing I'm arguing fairytales out there. At the end of the day, the best team's going to come out. Yeah, so, but I mean, you could also go back a couple weeks and that just comes down to ranking. Like, should have Georgia been number one this whole time? Right. And if you're going to put Bama number one, why don't you, why don't you

just put Bama? Just go ahead and put Bama number two if they're going to ultimately be your number one. Because it's just, it's just that SEC bias. And then you know they're not going to put Georgia in Alabama in the semi again. Right, right. I agree. It does also get... But you can easily go Michigan 1, Georgia 4, and then Bama and Sisi.

Good. But... Yeah, but... It's just that bullshit SEC bias. And it chapped my ass, bro. That loss for Michigan is the only... I mean, obviously, if they took care of them, then they'd be number one right now. For sure, but... Are we comparing losses?

I know, that's what I'm saying. Alabama lost to an 8 and 4 Texas A&M team, who was average of best in the Big 12th. Iron Bowl. So, I just think at the end of the day. obviously it's the viewership everything there's so much politics to go into it so I'm excited for the games to come up though I do you're fun I'm fired up I'm fired up it's gonna be a you think Sissy can beat Alabama um I think I think it's uh I think it's good that they're in there because I mean like we're saying about the Georgia thing like they were

number one we're finding out that they're not the number one team in the country So I think it's good to see different teams in there. Again, like, you're asking the wrong person. I know you're a Bama guy. I don't think they got to, I don't think they have a shot either. Say anything. Right. But I think it's good to see it.

Yeah. It's our, and now it's Bamas to lose. Right. I think it's from underdog to now flopped. Dude, I was, honestly, I'm a huge Nick Stabman. Was rooting for Bama hard, right, to even win that game. but the minute I saw them being number one, I'm like, I want this team to fail.

And it's more so because the SEC bias that goes on. It's just, it's just. I know you saw the post game and you feed that yummy rat poison, baby. I love that yummy rat poison. He was firing me up talking crazy like that, dude. That smirk. And I love that Cincinnati's in

because I don't think they're a team that belongs in the college football playoff. So this is going to be a good example of, don't put these little, are they D1? Are they a D1 football team? Are they, are they D1 2A? No. Oh, they're D1.

Hey, it's just acting crazy. Yeah, it's just acting stupid. Because once they get mopped, it's like, okay, let's not do this experiment again. Because they beat what? Tulsa by 7 and Navy by 7. One of them, maybe they, it was single-digit wins against those two average football teams. You know what I mean?

Navy by 7. That's all you need to know. Honestly. What's up? Yeah. They're not, yeah. I hope they get absolutely waxed by Alabama.

Indiana by 14? What covers is Indiana? Big Ten. They're trash, though. My problem is this. I was asking. Right. I'm still talking on my points.

No, no, no. Not, I'm not saying what you're, I'm still like, from the sense of like, Every SEC person, like you're South Carolina fan. You're South Carolina fan. Of course. You just ride, just like Indiana or ride the coattails of some of the Big Ten schools,

you're in the same boat. You ride coattails of Alabama and Georgia. I'm doing exactly what you're doing. Hey, everybody, drop your sores. You're all about to go to you in the house. That is a great point. I got nothing to say to that because you're, you are fucking right, dude. you're just riding the coattails.

I'm literally doing what you're doing. All right, I think that's all I had. That's what I had bottled up. Yeah, you stole me. I think that's all I had was I just wanted to argue SEC versus Big Ten. I also think... I think this year is a good example of why it should expand, too. Yeah.

Because even a two-loss Ohio State team is a lethal team. Oh, yeah, for sure. It sucks that they lost. Baylor's good. Yeah. Like, there's, there's a chance

for it to be a fun expansion. And I know everybody says that every year, but just take the five winners of the Power 5 conferences and then do three at large teams for an eight-man tournament. How long do you think you could go? Like, with,

like, obviously football's different than basketball, so you couldn't do like a 64 team bracket because it's just too many games that'll take way too long. But how long do you think you could extend a season realistically for, like,

college athletes playing? I don't know. I would think adding another week. Because it all equals add money and all that stuff. The teams that are in the playoff are taking three weeks off right now. Like you can easily add in another week, do an eight man. But I don't know as far as like, because it is big, bro. Like there's so many college football teams out there.

I would personally love to see four-man tourneys in the conference play, like two from each side. And then the winner of that goes to the finals. And then that winner goes to like a college football playoff. You can always do it like baseball does. So they have a regional. And then they go to like the World Series type. environment. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Just do best. It's just football all week long, dude. Run these kids into the ground. We interrupt this episode. Just shout out the boys at Roeback. Roeback active where you all know

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I want to say, who's Purdue playing? Is it Purdue playing Tennessee? Yeah. That's a sneaky, it's a sneaky solid game. Really? We'll have to go to that, boys. It's right here in our backyard. I want to say Penn State is playing Arkansas.

Arkansas in the Outback Bowl. That'll be solid. You know, I don't know how. good Arkansas is. I'm not sold on the boys of Penn State, but I'm hoping Penn State's winning. Dude, Penn State went like eight OTs deep with Illinois. That's

tough to, you know, swing a sword for him. I can't from Michigan. I hate that Ohio State can't play a SEC team. I would have loved in that. I think Utah, that'll be a good game. God, dude, I got, I hope not. We really need to go undefeated. The Big Ten needs to go undefeated. The big ten needs to go undefeat.

I know, man. Because all this stuff I'm yelling and spouting off about, like, I'll be getting drug football games let's get into the NFL good day of NFL there are a lot of last drive winners Detroit

finally won a football game the boys in Detroit that was an awesome outcome did anybody happen to catch that game dude I don't know if anybody's watching golf driving making that last drive and throwing that touchdown pass

it's like I'm fired up for him but what are we doing on defense boys. What are we doing on defense in Minnesota? Who else do we have? Dude, I love seeing the Eagles Jets game, not because of the game itself, because Jets,

but because of Gardner Minshue after the game. Dude, how awesome was that? Just watching dude just be dudes. Not how to communicate other than just chest bumping and dapping up for five minutes straight. You go with a dab with the arm over and the hug, and then you get a little, a few distance, and then for some reason it just repeats.

Like, you don't know what to say, so let's just do it again. The best part about the whole video is the woman, the fans in the background. So Gardner, for the troops. He signed this for the troops. He's like mid-depth. Gardner! Kids are over here. Dude, that's the best.

We need to do a skit on that. Like parents trying to like, hey, we got kids. It's not for me. It's not for me trying to show all my friends, but it's for my kid. But that was a good one. watching in the Raiders watching the boys go at it i'm not i wasn't naming it this but a lot of people were calling it the compton bowl um the boy has some a couple jerseys out there now maybe it was one guy in the same photo twice but we're going to see there's a couple there were

a couple of compton jerseys out of the stands he won the third i can't tell if it's the distance and it's the same guy or it's two different photos but i'm posting both of them like there's two fans out there do it like it's multiples um that was a good game that's a good game the Washington is getting dangerous starting a four-game win streak. And I know how lit that city is when Washington is winning football. And it is a fun place to play when they're winning. God-awful when they're losing. They moved up to the number six spot.

Really? I know they're in. They're like in the playoffs right now, right? If the season ended today. Yeah, they jump to Niners. I have tough loss by the Niners boss. I know, brother. That's hard.

That's hard losing the Seahawks like that too. Every time they have our number. Good, though. Oh, he had a game for sure. He had a game for all than fantasy owners out there. And then the Steelers Raven game, that one was awesome. I love how Hardball went for two at the end. I know they lost and didn't get it, but what an awesome call.

Like, especially with that rivalry too, those whole Steeler Ravens rivalry. Love how you just put his nuts on the table. They didn't get it, but, you know. I don't know, dude. What do you think? I mean, both. Like, if you're the tight, if you're the tight end, you're like, I should have had that because, you know, you can make one-handed catches.

And then if you're Lamar... In that pocket, and it collapsed right then and there. But right there with you, putting his nuts on the table going for two. Loved it, bro. I was fired up right before Yellowstone came on. Which is a phenomenal show. You guys need to get in your life. Garrett, are you caught up on Yellowstone?

Oh, my God, man. Rip is the scariest human being alive. I haven't watched the new succession yet. I'm up to date. I'm not up to date currently. but I've watched up until this past week. That's a good show too. I feel like it's drug out a little bit though.

Not really, bro. Yellowstone's way more violent. I mean violent, but like they're also in Yellowstone. Other people are like flying in hellies. True. It's that same. It's like cyber wars going on in succession. Kids trying to take it.

Right, right. I just think Yellowstone is. Oh, well, yeah. Just put it in my veins. We're not city boys. Yeah. And then Paramount Plus is coming out with 1883. just a Red Dead Redemption

Spinoff? Tim McGraw Did he looks like he's acting his ass off out there. He's going to be the dad again. I know. Friday night lights. What happened to my lamp? Can't hold on to the lamp. Can't hold on to the football. What, uh, Jake Paul

rematch with Tyron Woodley. Why is, uh, how do Tyrone Woodley get back in? Does Fury back out? Yeah, well, he just backed out. They said there was medical issues. Hmm. I believe What are your thoughts?

Yeah, you're in the fighting world You're a fight analyst I don't think he actually has Medical issues I think Jake Paul Would rather fight Tyron Woodley Just for the rematch And build the hype

Because I think he knows He would lose to Tommy Fury And it wouldn't be a good fight And with Woodley There's like a little bit more there Lean up so you can at least be in the camera And the people who are watching on YouTube Don't have to stare at me

When they're hearing your voice That's JP, by the way, guys. How are you doing, man? I'm from South Carolina. Same place as Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen. Hey, that's a good theory, though. Scared to lose? Yeah.

You think Jake's scared to lose? He's going to go. But I think Tyrant is, I think Tyrant could knock him out. Jake's scared to lose. How would Tommy back out of the fight? I think, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

I don't really want this fight. Yeah. Yeah. And Tyrone has the tattoo now. That's got to be a huge bag for Tommy and an NDA saying you can't tell anybody. Oh, yeah. And I think he's willing to do that. That's a lot.

Do you not think so, Alex? I'm a lot to ask of somebody when he's like, oh, and now I know you're scared of me? Let's fight. At that point. That's true. Great points. But all conversation. Yeah.

I mean, all fear he would have gotten from the fight is money. And. Well, any of these guys are fighting for anyway. But that's what I'm saying. I think Jake Paul would give him the money anyways. What if it is a medical reason? It's truly, yeah, like there's an actual medical reason. Tire just gets his shot.

But, yeah, somebody was saying that there might be a third. Third what? Fight between Tiren and Jake? Like they're trying to set up a trilogy? I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm not in the fight game, but I should be. No, I mean, Jake Paul said if Woodley Not knocked him out, you get an extra $500,000. That just kind of seems like a foreshadowing to me.

To get a trilogy? Yeah, why not? More money. I mean, is you going to make more money off of Fury or Woodley? That's true. And Woodley, even if he knocks him out, Woodley will still lean into that because it's not like Woodley's going to be in the actual fight game. Woodley's in it just for the bag. He's just in it for the money and the entertainment at this point. Yeah, all good points. Yeah, all good, all good. They said the first time I'd outbox them. This time I'm going to punish them. I mean, I do hope they just go after it because it sucks when everybody has like valid conspiracy theories out there.

You know what I mean? And you just hope that they're actually fighting for the sake of the sport. Like you could always know where the like money grabs and everything else is. Like with Roy Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson and shit like that. Right. But yeah, I hope it's that way. I hope they just get after it.

I hope Tyron lets them go. go this time for the love of god tyrant do it for missouri um let's get into the amir abdula episode so we got to sit out with amir back in uh july we didn't at we for man i hate that i forgot to ask him about how well and doubt he is but he amir abdula is now with the panthers he's now with the vikings back when we did this interview in july uh he was with the vikings amir and i go way back we went to college together in nebraska nebraska fans are going to love this there's a lot of Nebraska talk. A lot of good, a lot of good stories in the middle of games. We talk a little bit about Coach Bo. I know we were talking about when Bo is going to come on the podcast, so I don't know

what'll be in there or not exactly. But Nebraska fans are going to love this. Listen, you guys don't have a game. There's no more games to watch. So this is a great win for the state of Nebraska right now because Nebraska fans can now watch an Amir Abdullah interview on Bustin with the boys. And Amir also talks about creative house production, his, his presentation. production company called Creative House. You can follow them on Instagram. They're on, on the social medias. He talks in depth about that, things that he's into,

a lot of stuff that he's into out the field. Amir is a very well-spoken cat. He's one of those dudes that he makes you want to read. He makes you want to learn more. Makes you want to be in tune with yourself more just as a person and getting better as a person. He talks very much from a stance of like, you know he's just in a single player a game, like playing against himself all the time.

Like he's always trying to better himself. and he's somebody I look back on as a teammate and a good friend to where I'm like, he's somebody who mentors me indirectly. Like I would never tell him to his face. I mean, I would tell him to his face, but it's like one of those friends that, like, you don't know that you're rubbing off on me because I watch you from afar and I really respect everything he's about. But you guys will like this interview a lot.

And again, if you're on YouTube right now, take a moment, like the boys, subscribe, leave a real comment. If you're listening on audio, leave a five-star review. but yeah let's get into it man Amir Abdullah Carolina Panthers also former Nebraska great rolling good to go

the fucking boys listen it's gonna feel a little formal first you know what I mean like I got my boy Amir Abdullah I just got nervous I don't know why I just said no boys I looked at you

yeah you're on the bus now bro I'm waiting I know it's been a long ass time you've given me a lot of grief respectfully. Yeah. Yeah, like, it's merited. A lot of the boys do give me grief when they haven't been

on the bus yet. I'll tell you when it pains me the most. It was last year when we made the boxes. I sent you one, though, right? Yeah. Because there's like a part of me that felt like, like, damn. Did everyone who got a box, were they already on the show? They were, yeah, they were on the busing roster.

Yeah, it wasn't like, you know, obviously I didn't just make buss in, like buss and boxes for my friends. but that it was starting to sink in like I got to get the fellas on. I appreciate it though because it came in a time of camp where I was feeling really low. I was feeling low. You know, you kind of start losing your juice. You show up to camp. You're like, all right, I'm ready to go.

And you need that care package. Yeah. Asian hadn't sent me one yet. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He put me on the back burner. You put me on the front. Bro, so I wanted to do those boxes because I was always the guy that never got the care packages.

Like people get them from their agencies. From the mud. out the mud with you. And I would sit there and Matt like, man, they get these care packages. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And you know, you get the care packages and you're kind of saying, oh, it's my agency. It's something like this, is that.

So I was like, yo, let's make a busing care packages. People might be hype and be like, oh, you know, my boy, bust with a boy. It means a lot, bro. It means like, y'all sending something out this year? We're late if we are sending them out. I just started thinking about it on the honeymoon. This is, so to give context, obviously this is backlog. But I just got back from the honeymoon last night, landed at like,

10, 10, 30. Amir's in town just for this. We figured it out to get him in Nashville. But I'm straight off the honeymoon. This is the first pot outside of the honeymoon. You're obviously one of Nebraska's greatest running backs of all time. The. Do you think, do you believe, obviously, we're joking when it, we're not joking,

but also you're playing around being, you know, with that confidence. But do you think you are the greatest running back to ever lace him up in Nebraska? That's a tough question. It's tough just because I feel like every generation of football is different. And I was in a generation of football where we came up in a generation of football where the running back position has really, really changed. It's not really just running back anymore. It's more like a hybrid position. It split me out wide, played a lot of receiver, caught the ball a lot.

The traditional eyeback position at Nebraska has a different. definition today than what it had back when you had Mike Rosiers, Lawrence Phillips, even among greens, you know, guys who are obviously Hall of Famers in Nebraska's history. So I think it's very subjective. You know what I mean? I try not to get too much into that, but I consider myself top three and I'm not two or three. Okay. I was going to say very, I was going to say a very well put together answer.

You know. If we're sitting in the calf back in the day, if we're sitting in the hawks, now, you say we go to the spring game next year and we're sitting there. And I'm like, yo, you think you're the greatest runnerback of all time. And I'd only say that just because I move with a different intention now in life. I feel like you got to really speak who you want to be. You got to really embody who you think you are. So being passive in life will only bring you mediocre things.

I really believe that. You know, even if you're doing it for good intentions of like, I want to be humble around these people. The universe hears that and it gives you back mediocrity. So like really speaking who you are is important. And that's where I'm setting my intentions moving forward. Like you got to speak what you really want. And I don't want to be mediocre.

So I'm going to say I'm the best. And it's not to disrespect anyone. It's not to say like, oh, this guy wasn't better than me. I'm sure Nebraska fans are going to be watching this like, he was good, but he's not the best. In my mind, I'm the best and I'm going to take that to the grave. Yeah, I'm statistically. if we could pull up some of the stats for like the Nebraska All-Time stuff,

where are you adding some of those? I remember walking on the halls and you're obviously at the top of a few. All purpose, I'm number one all-time. Rushing yards, I'm number two, which I'm pissed because I got hurt senior year, Purdue game. And then it's a couple games. I look back when we were beating the hell out of teams and they pulled me out, like first half. And I'm like maybe 140 yards behind Mike Rozier, who's actually number one.

And I probably would have easily gotten that. if I wasn't pulled in a couple of those games, or specifically that Purdue game where I didn't, I virtually didn't play. True, but you also got to think, too, like, I'm sure Rosie are some of those greats who are on those teams.

I'm sure they were getting pulled in some of the games. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? That's true. You know what I mean? Especially in the 90s, they're probably getting yanked at halftime.

And did Rosie? You go all four years? Because I went all four years, even though I didn't start my first year. I'm not sure. I'm not, my Nebraska history isn't that, isn't that fine-tuned.

It is fine-tuned when it comes to talking, like about Levanti stats. Levanti. Like I sit and talk with a rude and I'm like, it's crazy to think Levanti was creeping up on rude and Levanti was only there two years. Bucky was only there two years. I say this all the time. No disrespect.

Because you my boy. There was a favorite linebacker I've ever played with. Yo, that's why I had to do the disclaimer. I'm going to be honest. I didn't think it was going to hurt. Did that start the heart? Did I twist it? Did I twist it?

Granted it a little bit. Ooh, I know. Only just because like, he really is. He's a savage. Never spoke. Made every play. It wasn't a time where Levanti was in position to make a play. Then I'm like, oh, damn, he missed that play.

Yeah, you're right. How did you say that? You know what I'm saying? But he made a play when you needed a play to be made. Every time. I'm always thinking about that Ohio State game when we're playing Brackson Miller. And Brackson Miller was on like a freshman year terror. Just killing folks.

My jocks sharp still ain't at the 50-yard line. You can find that. for sure. Sometimes we'll replay it on Big Ten. I'll say this still. Brackston Miller is one of the craziest athletes I've ever seen. I know like he had to kind of move the receiver, an unnatural position of him for him in the NFL, so things didn't work out in that aspect. But college quarterbacks, Braxton Miller was crazy and he was just murdering us. We were losing like 24 to like three right before the half.

I mean, it was like the most historic comeback in Nebraska history. Levanté sparked that comeback. I remember he hit him lifting up because Braxton was trying to go down, stopped him from going down, ripped the ball and recovered it, and that changed the entire momentum for the game. And I was just like, bro, that was one of the most iconic plays I'd ever seen. Bro, it's insane. And there's another one against, we good? There's another one against Iowa, I think about that I think they were in, they might have

been an empty, the titan ran a stick route, pushed Levante down, pushed off, Levante fell backwards. Do catch the ball. He's obviously, he's going up the sideline. But Levanti gets pushed down, right? and he throws up his hands and, like, looks at the ref, and immediately, like, gets up, chases old boy down, strips the ball from him and takes it from him and recovers it, it's our ball.

You got to find, you got to, when we're rolling the YouTube, we've got to find that play, too. Is that your junior year? This is my junior year. So last game of the season. It was last game of the season. It was when I, that was actually a game, a pivotal moment for me because it was the first time I actually stood up and spoke

in front of the team. It was the night before, it was the day before that game, they were having senior day. And so I was like, that was my first time to speak. I think I remember that. I was so nervous. My heart was in my stomach, bro. And afterwards, B.K., like, grab me.

He's like, that's the most hype shit. I do remember that. That's the most hype, blah, blah. And from then, I never felt like it made me feel good about actually speaking up. You know, because you're so nervous when you're young. You know what I mean? But, dude. I was fortunate to have seniors like y'all around me because it gave me so much more confidence

because when I came into Nebraska, no one thought I was going to be. what I was because I was like a two-star maybe three-star recruit at Alabama. You were like a last-minute recruit too. Oh, last minute. Like we assigned Aaron Green who was the number He's like a four-star running back.

Five-star, number two running back in the country coming out of high school. And then Brayland, the year before, he was a late qualifier. So he was supposed to be in the class ahead of me, but he qualified my class. That is true. It didn't.

So I came in with both of those dudes and I just surrounded myself with you, Rex. Levante from time to time. Guy who worked. You know what I mean? Yeah. Rex was there.

I was just like, bro. I'm talking about like the running back room. Yeah, the running back room was thick. Bro, we did. We had, we had good seniors when I was a junior. I don't remember.

Like, we had good seniors when I was first there, but it was like Beau's first year there. You know what I mean? First, first year, like the whole culture is trying to get established and figured out. But I, yeah, Levanté senior class.

I love those dudes. But yeah, bro, when you, I didn't even know. I forget that you were a sophomore when I was a senior the whole time because we all hung out so much. Rex was a beast, man.

What do you think about, like when you think of, I mean, look at you. The legacy you left in Nebraska. Like, your senior year, I'll never forget this,

this play right here. Stop this play right here. Magnese. Magnese. You guys are playing. Magnese? No, no disrespect to him.

But we always, like, they almost clapped us. Yeah. We'll get to the Pellini era in a second, too. But,

like, there was always a game where we almost fucking lost that we weren't supposed to lose. Like one of my years it was South Dakota State. This,

their senior year they had you guys had all the hype in the world where were you ranked right here uh tray lance we were 19 it was still early in the year but like midway through this year we're like seven in the country yeah you guys were eight no going into uh michigan state yeah and you guys lost like it was like last second too crazy yeah but this play right here there's 30 35 seconds left in the game bro third and six it's 24 24 Nebraska not have won this fucking game no but amir makes this play that's like all the top 10 for weeks. Crazy, man.

Hey, when you make a play like that, like, especially in Nebraska, like, what's that? Dude. Talk about your senior year a little bit, especially moments like this when you have 90-something strong. Man, I'll go, I'll go right into this play because, first off, it's third and six. We had thrown a couple, you know, we threw a stop route to, I think, Kenny before that play, and then we try to go deep to Jordan Western Camp. So it's third and six, and we just called four.

verse, which is a horrible call. This is a horrible call, bro. I'm just like, yo, we can get a good play call in and just, we got time. I think we had a time out left, you know? We call four birds. Like what we playing? What are we playing? NCAA? Madden? You know, whatever.

Just four vers? They had given up. Coach's not having up. They're like, fuck, we just lost a minute. Yeah. But my son, he just keeps running four verse. He keeps being successful with it. Let's just tell that. Yo, so I'm not even supposed to get the ball on this. I'm just running option route underneath and these dudes are terrible those dudes they definitely should have made that

play but i remember getting the ball and when the ball was in the air i was just saying like why the fuck is the ball coming to me i have like a three to five yard route i'm not even past the sticks and it started off very pessimistic for me i was like fuck we're about to have to punt the ball back to these dudes with time left i turn around and i see two guys just running out of control and i see two guys just running out of control. So I tried to cut back in. I spun off one dude who tried to go low on me. And at that point, I was like, man, I could score. Westie threw a block for me late. But it was crazy. Just the energy of the stadium after that play, I felt like a god. I felt like a god. It was the first time where I had really understood like my impact at Nebraska. Because the year before, I'd had

like a historic year. I went for like 1,800 yards on the ground as a junior and I had a decision to either, you know, leave a comeback. That's right. Yeah, I remember that. I had a decision to leave come back. My draft grade when I sent in, you know, they do like the projection draft grade. It was like third or fourth round, which is pretty high, but I was like, you made an announcement to come back too. Yeah, I made an announcement. I did a hold of, yeah, no, yeah. I did I want to keep my talents here. You know what I'm going to keep my talents here. But coming back, just to love that that state showed me coming back, I really felt that play. Like, they were chanting my

name in the crowd after that play, because I just scored a walk off, you know, win for the team against a team we definitely should have been beating, you know? So, what was the, but at the same time, well, because I know what goes to your head,

like, what's Coach Boe about to be like in the locker room after the game? Well, you know, Bo. You know, Bo. You know, Bo was never even excited. We came to the sideline. Bo's face is still stone cold, just like, all right. You know what I mean? Thank you. Yeah.

We almost lost... He's thinking about all the shit that almost lost the game. He's already thinking about how I'm going to rip this team's ass when I get in the locker room. So I come in after, you know, doing a couple of postgame interviews. And I'm kind of hype. I'm like, yeah, we did that. We did that. And I come in, I have to settle myself down because I see everyone else just like quiet

because Bo is just like ripping their ass. Bo like double takes. He sees me comes in. He's like, you guys better fucking thank God for Amir Abdullah. And I was just dying. I was just like, yo, Bo. Crazy, man. Doug, you know, we've talked about before.

So we have a group chat that's went on every day since college. Literally every fucking day. That's rare. Like, how many of us are there? There's like eight or nine of us? Quincy, Toby, Kenny, Josh, Taree, Nate Gary, you, me. So eight. Eight.

Nate was a late edition because he's a lot younger. Yeah. Yeah. I was a later edition. Were you? I think so. You weren't a staple? No, I wasn't a staple.

I got in fairly quick. I got in fairly quick. Okay. I got into the club quick. Yeah. Because you guys felt like you needed an addition of a couple. You were VIP. You needed an addition of a couple white guys.

Yeah, we needed it. We needed to sprinkle a little bit. You know what I'm saying? It was like, who's the next white guy we can get? And Nate was the next guy, you know. White snake. But, uh, so we've had this group chat running forever. We obviously fall in Nebraska like fairly closely.

Like, we're always keeping up with the boys. Obviously, when Beau got fired, we have our group chat. Like, you're like following them throughout this whole thing. Mike Riley comes through. Now Scott. Frost, but we've always been like vocal about our time in Nebraska's stuff. And I know one thing we talk about, and we're actually going to have Bo on. Bo's coming to get on the bus next week, actually.

Nice. But like, as phenomenal of a coach, because I told, when I was telling Charles, my new wife, when I was telling Charles that Bo's coming on, I was stoked for her to finally meet him because I'm like, yo, this man legitimately shaped a lot of who I am right now. Like a lot of what he taught, like a lot of his stuff, a lot of. lot of his quotes, a lot of all of it, the culture and everything, I get from Bo, because, you know, you're able to imprint on kids when they first get to college. And, but his downfall was always, in my opinion, which I will, which we will get to talk about, was his composure in like

the big moments and the big games. I remember when it was, it was really like standing out to me, never when I play because you always, you know how it was playing for Bo. Yeah. You always felt like, fuck, I'm letting the squad down. I'm letting like, damn, I hate. It's like pissing off. your dad. You never want to let your dad down. And I remember y'all were up. You guys were 8-0. You're playing, or 8-1 maybe, playing Wisconsin. I was going to say the same game.

And y'all were up, what was it? 17 to 3. 17 to 3. And who was the running back? Melvin Gordon. Are we all right with the rain going on? And Melvin Gordon jumps over maybe Corey Coop. Who's Cory Cooper? We're still up. And takes it to the house.

And it's 1710, about to be halftime. And Bo is just losing it on the sideline. And I'm thinking in my head now, like playing in the league a couple of years, seeing what my growth was, like, from coaching when, like, you know, not being afraid to mess up and just playing freely, like, Bo's just ripping these dudes. I'm like, yo, why is he losing on these boys? And they're about to be up 1710 on a good Wisconsin team.

And they need this going into the second half. But it just made me think of all the times where we lost some of them big games. And obviously it's not because of Bo. but you think about some of those moments, and you're like, damn, like, if we would have kept our composure, like we could have probably been fine or better off in those moments.

Bro, you kill the head, the body will follow every time. And Bo would lose his head a lot of times. And like you said, as much as the fans didn't understand this, Boe was a leader. Oh, very much so. From his tenacity, his passion. We fed off of Boe. When Bo got hyped when the defense would shut somebody out,

three and out that first drive, Like, say, we used to always kick off first. Yeah. Because he counted on his defense. When you guys got that first three and out and how hype he was, the offense would see that and we would set the tone for the entire game. Now, on the flip side, if you guys came out and they threw a bomb the first play and completed, the whole energy of the team was down because Bo was already losing

the shit because our leader, the head of our group, is already falling. Right. You know, and I feel like that's something where maybe his pro experience, didn't always translate because, you know, Bo was a pro guy, you know, he coached the pros. And as a pro, you're expected as an independent contractor, as a professional, to keep your head no matter what, you know, as a player. But as college kids who are very malleable, like you said,

who are young coming from these high school atmospheres, and you see your head coach pissed off and your view losing this faith in you, oh, man, you start playing lackluster, you start making mistakes that you would never mistake, you'll make before just because you're like, Holy shit. The fan insists it the fan.

You know, things are on fire right now. Like, it's like a play with, like the first play of the game would be like running. Maybe the offense gets four yards. Yeah.

And he's already too fucking much. You know what I mean? Like we're having fun. Now I'm telling you to make care of the eyes. And this isn't like a, this isn't a segment to where I'm sitting here. And we're just talking about downfalls of Bo Polina saying like this is why we weren't this and that.

Like you just with the maturity we've had now and you're able to think back on like how we've been coached over the years and different things. I mean, look at my man. And Carl's no better. Carl's next to that man. Carl's worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, bro. Carl's actually worse. Yeah. But Bo, like, you fucking loved him and he held such a high standard. But in some of those moments, like, it took me going to Rex for like some of my mental, where my mental actually started to take off a little better and go in the other, not the other direction. String coach Rex. No, Rex Burkin.

Rex Burkin. And obviously you guys are on offense. So it was, it's, you guys, I felt like didn't have to deal as much of Mo. because you guys weren't on the defensive side. But I remember, like, Rex would always carry himself in such a way with confidence where he would be able to move on to the next player. Nothing really ever seemed to affect Rex X-Nus. And I remember I asked him, like, hey, do you have any, like,

stuff you listen to or books or anything like that that that, that, like, helps you out, like, you're mental. And he's like, bro, read The Mental Edge by Kenneth Baum. In that book, The Mental Edge, will put some link or something somewhere to go to Amazon or something like that. But the mental edge is literally what opened me up to the sports psychology side of everything and reading books and like using your mental as an advantage because we subconsciously and it just it just naturally happens like you think what you think you become like you

were kind of talking about earlier the universe and everything like that which we'll get into but um i'm reading this book and i'm like yeah i've been using my head as like a disadvantage at all the time because i'm out there i'll be on the open field or like starting to approach a tackle or pursue or something like that i'm thinking don't miss this tackle because of how you might look on film to how though my coaches talk about you in the meeting room, to where then it carries over and they coach you up in the film room, and you're thinking, oh, this is what the coaches think about me.

This is how I'm defined in the coach's meeting room. You know what I mean? And then, like, I realize, like, the way my brain is going, I'm using it at such a disadvantage because of the way I'm talking to myself. But old Rex, like, he helped me out. That book is honestly what opened my brain up to, like, a lot of these things outside of, like, learning through the process that Beau always taught. That's interesting you're talking about, you know, you're talking to Rex about the mental side of things and how it can be a weapon or it can be your disadvantage.

Because I definitely think the very thing that empowers you in life can also devour you in life. You know, I think a lot of times it's good to know a lot, but trying to seek too much knowledge can also make you very timid. Because once you know a lot of shit, you're like, well, I can't do that because I learned this. And that tells me not to do that. Well, I can't, you know, I can't move this way because I can also bring me. this in life and um you know you start overthinking everything when you know too much some things you got kind of just leave up the chance and i think that's um a delicate balance kind of cycling back to bow that sometimes he didn't let happen he didn't allow the evs and flows of the game to be what they

are before he made his decision like this is bad you know what i mean things were bad just because he he understood the exes and oh so much understood his scheme so well that if one person is out of alignment, which is going to happen. Correct. Every game is different. He was just on fire, you know, immediately. And it's crazy because the people who play with him, who, uh, who is the tight ends coach? Uh, Coach Cotton.

No, not Coach Cotton. I'm thinking of somebody else. He had his son. He came from Bamma. He was like the recruiter. Oh, Mike Morrow. Coach Morrow. Because he played with him at Ohio State, right?

Or play with him in high school or drove with him or something like that. And it's just crazy because people like, yo, that's, that's Bo. Like, he's been that way, even as a player because he was always out there on the field. like because he was a captain at Ohio State, I believe. I would love to meet Bo's dad. Yeah. Like who? The whole family's crazy, bro.

Who's the, they said the brother would be at the game and he'd be in the stands fucking swinging on fans and stuff, bro. Youngstown, they need a 30 for 30 on Youngstown, Ohio because Jim Trussell came from there. I want to say, the Stoops brothers. The Soup's brothers, Bo Polini. The Polini's.

It's like a mobster, like mentality, but they like football mobsters. Bro. They do have a 30 for 30 on it. It's called The Youngstown Boys. Oh, they do. Okay. I'm about to say. I was just wild shit.

So Bo's brother, the one who was the fan that would go to the games, he wasn't Carl or Bo coaching. I forget what the brother's name is. But his son. Mark? Yeah. It might be Mark Planey. Yeah.

Mark was. Yeah, yeah. Because Mark was a junior of his dad. Yeah, so Mark. Yeah, yeah. But his son, Mark, it played for us, right? And Marky, what was he, a backup center? He was a center. He started a couple games,

remember when he shit himself during practice or workouts? He said himself twice. He shit himself and he continued to practice and play. At center. Yeah, at center. That's disrespectful. That's disrespectful. And that man lived with fear talking about,

nah, like I'm not going to do that, my uncle. And y'all got those white pants, too. Yeah, bro. There's got to be, I think there's a photo somewhere. I'll try to find it so we can, but bro, Mark was funny, but he's like, like, oh, that's, you know, that's my family. Oh, yeah.

It's just conditioned that way. But, like, we say all this stuff, too, and you can't, you can't, like, mistake it for the downfall or anything. In my opinion, there's no downfall. Right. Because since then, there has been no 9 and 4, 10, and 4. Like, yeah, we've lost some big moments and some big games. And people forget, too, like, okay, he couldn't keep his head in the big moments.

Like, my senior year, we had seven, four, we had seven comebacks in the second half. that year was fucking memorable. I always say that was one of the rosters. We tricked it off against Northwestern that year. We tricked it off. I don't know how that happened. We tricked it off against a team every year. Like the year after we lost to Texas

in the Big 12 championship, we tricked it all by losing to them at home for whatever reason. We tricked it off against Northwestern. After we had just beaten a star-studded Michigan State team, led by Kurt Cousins, my quarterback now. They had like Levyon Bell,

Edwin Baker, B.J. Cunningham, All those receivers, defense, what's the big tall D.N? Golson. Yeah, Golson. They were loaded. They did have a squad. And we smacked them at home. And then lose to Northwestern the next week. Yeah, we just always, it fucking sucked, bro.

I tell you what, losing the Big Ten championship, the first year we went to the Big Ten or second year. And we go to the championship game and we lost, what was it, 79, 79, 70 something to like 39. And, hey, I'm telling you, Bloss. I'm saying, like, you couldn't throw us a life. jacket, bro. We're out there just drowning. And there was like, and they just kept running the fucking speed sweep, dude. I can't wait to ask, but I'm not touching that. I'm not touching us. I'm going to let you dive in that water, bro. Well, at the end of the day, we got to make plays. I know there's one tackle I miss. Like, we're out in space. Obviously, like, there's arguments

always on every side. Like, as a player, as a man, like, we are very much accountable. Like, that's the name of the game at the end of the day. Like, if you're not self-accountable and you're blaming other shit on why things happen. Like you're going to fail at some point in life anyway. So I sit there and watch out my man, I wish I would have fucking played better and made certain plays and tackles. But if you put on from the coaching perspective, like there were, you know, we didn't make an adjustment when we use some fucking 22 speed personnel.

Pride was another thing with Bo, man. You know, like he didn't really want to change a lot of things like schematically. You know, he was, I'm a live and die by this. And like, once people start to get a beat on you, you know, you got to adjust every now and then. Right. Because there would be limited. but there's in bow in the defensive world there's a lot of adjustments to formations it's honestly

again there's there's both sides of the coin because learning under bow and his staff is the reason i've been able to play in the league so long because i had guys like i had guys like boe coach john papoches coach ells coach eclerc even coach carl for the love of god but um coach marvin sanders that's a fucking another little tale. That could be a little TV series on Netflix. Yeah, yeah. And, but learning the defensive philosophy under the Pliny regime is the reason I've been able to play in the league so long because they teach you so much about the game.

They teach you not to, they say like, you know, you need to learn to be an offensive coordinator out there. But once you learn the defense and you're able to learn what the offense is going to do to you, based on formations, based on down and distance, based on everything else, like, you are like another little coach out there playing against these guys because you know you understand what's coming because based on formations you check something and you know they only run a couple of plays out of those formations and just learning under that and Barrett Rood he would always come back to Nebraska, shut out Barat Rood, but he would always help me on studying film and how to take notes

and learning all of that is the reason I'm like all the credit in the world goes to that because that's why I've been able to play so long and we talk about the other side like we've talked about the I was interesting inverse I had a complete opposite experience. I, um, with Coach Beck, Tim Beck was our office of course. Right, you're in a different world on offense. Bro, getting to the league, man,

it, like, I consider myself a pretty intelligent guy, so I didn't struggle, you know, with the playbook, but it was like, the learning curve was completely different. Really? Verbis, the play calls, understanding that I had to know what everyone else was doing.

I never had to do that in Nebraska. Our play calls were like two words. It was like, Red Mongo, go. That's a play. In the league, you don't have. have that. You know, you're setting the formation, you got maybe a shift to a motion, and then you got to understand if a safety moves down in the box this way, the protection may change. I didn't have to learn all that stuff. So I feel like, honestly, going into year seven,

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So that's a good topic to cover too because a lot of these, a lot of college is, you know, very spread oriented, very based on maybe two-word calls. Because coaches are trying to basically out-coach the other coach, basically. Tempo everybody. Chip Kelly tried doing it to bring it into the league. Do you feel like understanding all that stuff now and looking at, like if you were to give a message to running backs that are getting recruited, to be to look at pro-style colleges, pro-style programs?

Do you know what I mean? Do you feel like you wish you would have been a more? more of a pro-style system? Oh, I definitely do. I definitely do. That and, like, sitting in with the quarterbacks more to understand, like, safety rotation and, like, just coverages. Because, you know, everything happens from the top down, right?

At least from the way the quarterbacks or you read a defense, right? The safeties usually tell you, you know, even though they disguise a little bit, you have some good safety. He's like Harrison Smith is crazy on our team. He'll be down the line of scrimmage on a snap. He'll be running way back. Some Troy Palm-Malo shit. It'll be crazy.

So he's different, you know what I'm saying? But for the young guys. who are, you know, playing against these collegiate teams, I would definitely say sit in with the quarterback a lot more, understand blitz patterns, fronts, what different, you know, alignments for D-Ns can mean. If a D-N is kind of spiked inside, most likely someone's blitzing outside

because everything's gap. You know, most defense are gaped assigned. You know, things like that. I didn't understand where you can see things before they happen, and then that's when your natural talent can really show, you know, because now you're getting the ball, you knew that the D-N was going to spike and you knew it was going to be an out-accounted

for blister on the outside so you can be like all right I'm going to make this move on this guy as opposed to getting the ball and you're like oh shit now I got to make the move you know without me knowing before that that was going to happen knowing how the block's going to come off with your tackle and getting uphill getting vertical shit like that you feel like you didn't have a lot of that stuff

in Nebraska no not not at all not at all you know so you're just you knew it to do and then it's just just a feeling ball man it's just fear of mirror that's what it was bro Did they make shirts for your mirror? They actually, so senior year, homecoming against Illinois. They spelled my name on the field with the band, Fear of Mirror.

It's pretty cool. I don't know if you can find the footage. It was against Illinois. That was probably the craziest thing. My mom was crying in the stands because she was like, yo, this is my son that they're making this for. I don't even look at him as Fear of Mirror, but like they love him here. And it was crazy because my mom, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama. And leaving home, that's like 16 hours away.

My mom was skeptical. She really didn't want me going to Nebraska. She didn't want me going far. But to see the impact and how that really changed my life made, I guess it was one of those moments in motherhood was like, dang, I got to trust my child more because he had the intuition that this was going to be the place for him. And four years later, that's spelling his name on the field. So it was like, that's fucking cool, man. Super dope. What made you come to Nebraska?

Really, Coach Bo. Cozbo. He was the only coach who really came to my high school for me. And everyone else were like, they'll call. You know, they'll send some mail. But Coach Bo came and pulled me out of art class. I'm never going to forget. So, like, my second half of my first semester, my senior year,

I had pretty much gotten all my credits to graduate already. So I'm in, like, bullshit classes all the time. I'm in art. And I get a call on my cell phone, and my art teacher was super cool. She let me pick up the phone. And it was Bo Polini. He was like, hey, man, get a pass from class, come down to the council's office.

And I had just seen you guys, I think, a couple of weeks. weeks before Taylor Martinez had a crazy game against Kansas State where he scored like six touchdowns or something like that. So, Nebraska was on my radar. So I was like, yeah, we got team magic. And then that year, that's when y'all lost to Texas in the Big Ten, the Big 12 championship that year. So like, you guys were a game working for the national championships. I was like, you know what? This is a good opportunity for me. Like Alabama and Arbor and they were lightly recruiting me. They really wanted me to play corner. I wanted to play running back. So Coach Boat coming in and just telling me like, hey, man, I'm not going to tell you you're going to be a starter. But I think you

got a special talent and that's the reason why I came here. We don't come to Alabama often, but when we do, we don't miss. I remember he said that, we don't miss. I was like, all right, you're not going to miss with this one. That's fucking awesome. The rest is, you know, what it is. No, that is. Bo's the man, bro.

He really is the fucking man. He'll yank your, hey, I tell you what, you miss an art class in college. For real though, yeah, yeah. Hey, that was one thing, stuff that always kind of stuck with me because, you know, he'd be in, like, team meetings and talk about, like, I'm not going to fucking hold your hand and babysit you guys. You guys are grown men. We need to teach you guys, but you guys need to learn to become grown men because

you're not going to do, you're not going to be a sum of the time guy. It's either all the time or your ass isn't playing on Saturday. He's like, you're not going to pick and choose when to show up. It's not just come play Saturday, come play when we practice. You're either going to be the same person in classroom or you're not going to be here. I think that's what I appreciated about him the most is the growth that I saw on all of my friends. So ironically, Josh Mitchell and Kenny Bill are both in that group chat.

Some of my closest friends today. But when they came to Nebraska, when they first got there, they were shitheads. Yeah. You know, they were immature, a little entitled, you know, a little bit, and didn't want to go to class or any of that stuff. Bo, like you said, he didn't hold their hands. Like, they grew as men because of Bo. And I think that's something that maybe the fans who just see them on Saturday,

they don't understand. He held people accountable. He really was. he was like a second father almost and he wasn't going to baby you. He was going to help you grow, which growth is never comfortable. Yeah.

Focus on the process, compete every day. That was his biggest food that he had hanging around everywhere. And as cliche as it is, it's just like, unfortunately it's the fucking truth, man. Fucking true, bro.

You talk about, I want to go back to you speaking about, actually, I don't want to go to that pivot yet. I want to go to the development you've had throughout the years. Getting to this point, you've spoken on like,

now you're at a place where you feel like, You understand third down. You understand schematics. You understand all this stuff in the football world. Talk about your development from when you first came into the league to where you're at now, whether it's mentally, spiritually, physically, football, whatever it is. Because you're somebody I've always, like, respected and admired from afar.

Obviously, you know that. We're boys. We're, you know, we're good friends, some would say. Acquaintance. But for real, like, you're my boy and you're also somebody. Like, I always try to, like, tell, because you never, like, tell your friends. that they're like mentors of yours, right? It's always got to be seen as somebody who's either where you want to be,

older, above you in some kind of way. But you've always been somebody that's like indirectly mentored me from afar because I keep my eye on you and what you do because you always seem to be in a good place. Talk about that development. Shoot, it's funny you say I always seem like I'm in a good place because I'm not, not always, you know what I mean? Which everyone deals with stuff. Yeah.

But, shoot, I'll start with Detroit, man. When I first got to Detroit, I had a really good rookie year. And I put a lot of expectations on my stuff. but that city is tough with the expectations. So like getting hurt my second year for the entire season. You were drafting the second round, right? Second round, second round. So first round, rookie year was solid.

Second year, I got hurt pretty early, which Detroit is kind of a woe is me. You know, town sometimes where like when they're up, they're up. When they're down, they're down, you know, which they've been down for a little while now. So for me, that was a really, that was a low point for me, you know, in my career where it was a lot of doubt. started to creep in for me, like, is he going to be able to be the same player at his injury again? Can he stay healthy? Can he be every down back? And those were a lot of the things that I fought when I first got to Nebraska.

So, you know, as people, doubt is, like, always stronger than confidence for some reason. You know, for some reason, we're so much quicker to, like, believe the negative as opposed to the positive. And for, I'll say, between like 2016 through 2017, I kind of become that person. I kind of lost my way of seeing the opportunity as opposed to the obstacle, you know. But I'll say the development started to happen when I started to realize who you are sometimes is who you are all the time. And I now plug Bo again. It's about the process. I started to, you know, reach out to you about a lot of things with taking care of my physical body on a day-to-day basis.

And when I started to take care of my physical, that started to help my mental. It really did because I was feeding myself, you know, feeding myself in, so to speak, a self-loving manner, you know, doing things that made my body feel good, made me mentally feel good about going to work. I was more confident. I felt better about myself. And I think everything in life happens for a reason. So when I transitioned from Detroit to Minnesota, I think that was kind of that last, like,

burden that was off my shoulders of like attaching to an identity of being the best all the time. You know, I still consider myself right now one of the best athletes pound for pound in the NFL. You know, an opportunity as it comes will show that. But for me, it was all about just getting back to the basics of doing things. Like every day waking up at a certain time. Like I always, no matter what night I had before, I try to wake up at 5.15 every morning. Just because you get to wake up with the sun, you get to mature with the day, and you get more out of the day.

I try to make up my bed every single day because both said it, bro. It's the little things to process. And it's not about like achieving the big things one time. It's about achieving those little things over time and time again until you look back and you're like, holy crap. I built a monumental legacy for myself just because I was keen and I was focused on the little things. So I think a lot of my development spiritually, physically and mentally all come from just like enjoying the little subtle things in life. Like going out in nature. You know what I'm saying?

Just going out of nature. Or just moving my body first thing in the morning after I, you know, make up my bed, brush my teeth and everything. Moving my body. Being thankful that I can actually move my body. because I got a lot of friends who had pretty severe injuries, they can't even move the same anymore, you know, and just giving back to those simple essences of life have really, like, allowed me to stay in the league as long as I can,

and I think I'm actually, I'm at, you know, an ascension point, really. You know, I'm going into the last year of my deal with Minnesota and just seeing how my role has changed with them where I'm sharing the field would probably, other than Derek Henry, the best back in the league. You know what I'm saying, Dauva Cook. So that's also To me it's kind of

It's interesting I'm back in the same place that I was When I first got to Nebraska In my opinion When I got there Rex Burkhead was there One of the best backs in the college football When I first got there

I knew I had to sit I knew I had to be patient And I had to find my way I had to find my way on special teams I was a return guy Would you RBS You know what I mean Like when I got to college

I was a freshman All-American Just because of returning Return the ball And then in the NFL I was a starter all four years in Detroit get to Minnesota. I'm not to start anymore. I'm back to that point of like re-humbling yourself. But I don't really look at it as like humbling yourself.

It's like just focusing back on the little things because timing is everything, but timing is always happening. You know what I mean? Right. Your moment is always happening. It's just being ready and being aligned with that. And to do that, you have to be on the little things because it'll go past you and you won't even realize it went past you if you're bullshitting. If you're trying to cut corners,

If you're making excuses, if you're kind of that woe with me, like, man, they should be doing this more for me. Or this should be happening for me. Just expectations. It's like, don't expect. Just do. And when you're doing and when the opportunity comes, it's going to be so seamless that it's like, oh, I did that. I created something for my life and it was effortless. I didn't have to pull the moon to earth.

I just had to continue to fall back on my training. You know what I mean? Like we, you remember when now, what was that group that came in and they like threw us in the pool? The program. The program. So we did this thing in Nebraska. One summer where these group, they're called the program, they come in, they're like military guys, Navy Seals, actually, I believe. Yeah.

And they're pretty much just talking about teamwork and bonding. And one thing that they always preached was never rise to the occasion, just fall back on your training, right? And I can remember those times in Detroit that the pressure felt like I had to rise to the occasion, rise to the occasion, as opposed to just falling back on what I knew. And now I'm in a place I've matured over the years Where it's like My heart rate doesn't ever jump anymore

Because I'm like man I do this shit every day My work away from the facility Is way harder than the work that you do In the facility in my opinion So it's like I'm in a really good place with that now Hey that's fired me up Yeah I see it in your eyes

That was a good little TED talk right there He said you're gonna cry You might have motivated the boys back there Where's Garrett? He needs to hear this shit It says that y'all were trained by the Navy Seals. Is that correct? Yeah. It's called, yeah, it's called the program.

The program. If you type it in. Is that it? Oh, bro. I'm telling you, man, this is, they've developed. Yeah, they're going hard now. They had one session where we had to wear all of our sweats and tread water in that pool. You remember that shit?

Yeah. And whether you could swim or not, bro, you couldn't hang on to the side. So, you know. It was actually irresponsible. It was very irresponsible because Brayland heard couldn't swim. Right. Braylin couldn't swim. And if you could swim.

you had to like you know it's on you help you team me help your teammates so it's like they did it on purpose so if you couldn't swim now you got to rely on that person on the team who was the stronger swimmer to maybe hold you up i just remember cameron meredith just like chill you know he's he's an orange county kid hunting beach kid just chilling floating in the middle of the pool everyone else is like drowning and yeah bro that shit was fucking hard and this is at this is at like three in the morning yeah we had to do a whole evening um on the field like in the turf field like doing logs and shit like over. I like doing a lot of team stuff because it gives the coaches feedback like who leaders are,

who people that are going to separate from the pack, people who are good, you know, just teammates. Because the whole ordeal is it doesn't matter if you're a leader, somebody who has a title or not. Like we're all leaders in our own regards, whether you're a teammate who's just helping one other teammate. But they taught you the perfect pushup that we had to do every day all the fucking time. But bro, so you had to do this whole evening, right? We probably left around maybe 10 p.m. at night.

10 p.m. woke up at like 2.8. And then we had to be at the swimming facility at 3 a.m. in the morning. And you'd have to wear all these sweats or in the pool like you're doing laughs. But then you're in the deep end. And you're treading water, right? And you're helping your teammates stay up. But at one point, you've got to change your sweats and give it to your partner. While you're in the water, trading water.

Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that shit was fucking brutal. What were we going on with that? Fall back. Oh, yeah, fall back in your training, man. Just the quote of falling back on your training. Yeah.

I think that... You basically become your habits. You're literally talking about all these little things. The book you guys put me on in the group chat, Atomic Habits, shout out Jay Mitch, I want to say, him or Quincy or somebody might have posted that one? It was either one of those two. But like reading that book, too, is like, that's a quote from there. Like, you ultimately become, you become what your habits are.

All these little things that we fucking talk about, whatever quote you want. If I can, just going back to doubt. Doubt is like the thief of joy. It really is because when you start to doubt yourself more, you start to believe those doubts, you get afraid to even do the little things. I got to that point where, like, I was so doubtful after my foot injury. That's what I wanted to ask

when you're doing that whole thing. Like, was it a certain moment and time frame, obviously with your injury to where it made you see, like, yo, I'm weak-minded right now. Like, what am I doing? Yeah, weak-minded. Like, I started to, after my foot injury, so I tore my little's frank.

So that's like... Brutal. I did too. Bro, it's like the ACL of your foot. It's terrible. It's terrible injury to come. back from. I still got screwing my foot from her now. But I started to just tell myself like, you won't be the same. You won't be the same. You know, you won't be able to cut on your left

foot as much as you used to, you know? And from that, you stopped working the way that you did when you didn't have that injury because you're starting to intercept yourself. You start to accept the idea that you aren't the same. So subconsciously, your body starts to, you know, pretty much agree with that. So physically, you don't even want to move. You don't want to work out. Right. You just crutch it. Like, you're just like, it is what it is.

It is what it is. You know, it's not going to get better. You know, it's not going to get any better. So I saw myself starting to go down that path, which is where I feel like my third year in the league, it was a solid year, but we were going through a coaching, you know, transition. So anytime you're going through a transition,

you've got to make a good impression. My third year was very average. It's very average year. I think I rushed for like 700 yards or something like that. but you know which isn't bad but I saw myself as a thousand yard back for sure you know but I can really remember just like the offseason before that year I was scared to really push myself because I was still coming off of the injury and it was really the doubt it was what I had told myself I was fine now I feel way more elusive than I ever have in my whole career after a surgery

you know what I'm saying that's just because my self-speech and doing the little things every day It's got me back to that point. And just for anyone who's really watching, man, like, don't allow the doubt to steal your joy because it'll start to seep in your life and who you are sometimes is who you are all the time. And you may think this is just one area of my life that I'm struggling in. It'll start to bleed over. Oh, there's no question. I saw it in my relationship lives where I wasn't doing the little things.

I wasn't communicating well. Went through a lot of tough breakups because of that. I saw it in my family life where I wasn't staying in communication. communication with them as much. So you're quickly triggered. Yeah, quickly triggered. You know, I would just kind of run from situations. Anything that was a little painful, I would run from.

It's the same thing with my foot. Anytime I was trying to cut and it hurt a little bit, I'm like, I don't want to do that anymore. So that's when I start to realize, like, yo, who you are sometimes is who you are all the time. And you kind of got to run towards that fear. You got to run towards that, you know, that doubt in a sense, because on the other side of that, a lot of time is joy and it's a lot of, like, prosperity.

Right. Even comparing too Like looking you know The thing in like ball like in sports too It's like never look at another man's wall Like when somebody gets signed And you're like oh You know you're getting out of the framework

Or what you're seeing in front of you But even comparing that steals That's another that's another doubtful thing That steals your joy is like You know you better than him Yeah that was tough man No doubt No doubt

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Is there some, like, bodywork or training that you've, adapted over the years that's allowed you to become this? Yeah, I got to pay homage to foot doctor sports. So foot doctor sports is a sports training enterprise based out of Miami, but they have foot doctors just passed all around the country now. Is there one in Nashville? I don't know if it's a foot doctor in Nashville. He might be one.

So the owner's name is Seth Mentor. And pretty much what they do is they connect you to you by doing a lot more barefoot training. You know, you see a lot of people doing barefoot training. I would advocate that the foot doctors are different than everyone else. I don't want to give their whole little spill, you know, exactly what they do on camera. I'll let them tell it better than what I can. But working with those guys and working with my personal trainer now, Foot doctor, Foote Dr. Mo had really allowed me to understand that the body is all a spiral.

Everything is about, it's like a pulley levy system, everything. It's more about absorbing force as opposed to. delivering force. You know, if you look at a rubber band, you throw, or like a trampoline, you jump on a trampoline, the force you give down is going to rebound and give a much greater force. Your body is the same way. Your ankles are a traveling system. Your knees are a trampoline system.

Your hips are too. And really changing that understanding of the body, change my training moving forward because in Nebraska, I was a big, big lifter. Oh, you're the strongest spot. All we talked about was, it'd be you. Who was next to you? It'd be me, you, Rex. Yeah, me, you and Rex.

Someone else? I know Zoe sometimes depending if it was, if it was bench day or not. I think it was me and you're at the majority of time. Yeah. Ben and bars. All about Ben and bars. I used to squat like 495 for 15. You remember that?

Bro. Like crazy. Like crazy weight, bro. Which it's, you get stronger by forcing your body under tension over time. But what that really does is that reinforces a force absorption subconscious that's not healthy, which is why you see a lot of guys have non-contact. knee injuries because if you think you have force on your shoulders, force at the ground,

that's obviously a given. Gravity is a given. That's physics. Your body is saying when you have force at the top and force at the bottom to resist, as opposed to if I'm having force from the top to sink into it and redistribute, it's telling all of your joints to resist when, you know, when forces applicated to you, right? So a lot of guys, when you see them run and they cut and they tear the ace,

is because your body has been trained to resist the ground, not use it, not to absorb it. And when I start to learn that, I was like, I can keep myself healthier by doing more functional training, things that help me spring out of my cut as opposed to stomp out of my cut. You see some guys,

they stump through drills. You see them, it looks good on camera that's stumping and stuff, but it's like, you do that shit in a game while someone's hitting you and your knee is trying to resist someone hitting you from up here

and then your feet are on the ground, especially with artificial turf nowadays, how grabby that stuff is. Yeah. That's why you see a lot of these injuries, knee injuries. And I think that really changed my whole outlook on how you should train and what's actually necessary for football players, which has really made me a lot more elusive, in my opinion. Now, like, honestly, I consider myself more of a receiver than I even do a running back now.

You know, I think I probably can run every route on the route tree, but that couldn't be said back in Nebraska. I was a lot more stiff. I was a lot more. You're more still, but come on now. I was an interesting. Hey, come on now. You know what I mean?

Like, over time, like me being older as well, like I've benefited greatly a lot more from like eccentric training. Isometrics and things like that just because of how the joints feel over time. It's crazy, too, like thinking back in the college, like all this stuff we had to do. And even high school, even like my dad always had me on stuff, training programs and stuff in high school as well. On stuff. Yeah, not on stuff.

He had me on that. creatine monohydrate, baby. I got some funny stories about Will. What are you talking about? Vegas. Oh, BBC 157? So, yeah, intro the BP. Yeah, so BPC 157.

It is a body protective compound. It's not on a ban substance list or anything like that. I got it from Ben Greenfield. And it helps, like, it helps, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, re-generate? Yeah, like, regenerate. like injuries like tinning ligaments like stuff with injuries you put it intramuscular right into the injury you know and it's not a fucking band substance but we're in Vegas and ameer's always like

it's not yeah you can you can tell the story can take the tablet can i go ahead you can go ahead you go the nflbara was it the nfl p a meeting okay so NFLPA meetings they had in Vegas like what the fuck anyways i'm always like fucking thing there now i guess there's a team there now But Will, I think he had his door cracked Because I told him I was going to come up to his room I walk in I see Will bare ass out Needle just shooting some shit in his ass

And I'm just like, Will, what the fuck is going on? I was like, that's how you're doing it, huh? That's how you're doing it Because at this time he hadn't told me this is BPC I told you to come up and shit to check out I'd be like bro Shit looks sketchy Shit looks really sketchy

Because I was putting you on red light Red Light Therapy I had packed all the shit dude. And I'm like, yeah, because I had like an upper hamstring injury.

And Mir comes in and I'm like, hey, like this is it. It does look sketchy as fuck, dude. Like needles in it. I'm like injecting the shit like right into the top part

of my hamstring. But yeah, I remember when I was first like learning about it. I was sketched out by it like singing and like putting it together and everything. And I remember the drug test guy

comes to. It was like math. I remember. I thought he was doing math. I remember the drug test guy coming to my house and be like, hey,

can you get, can you get, can you get, pop for this? Like, is this on a band substance list? And, like, we're looking at stuff and, again, confirm that it's not. Because I'm listening to it from, like, a Rogan podcast, from Ben Greenfield, like, all this stuff that I've learned. Like, I was very, the way I'm obsessive over Busts with the boys and, like, all this type of shit now is the way I was, like, with like performance, recovery, all those methods, sauna, ice, fucking red light, all that shit. And so I get on this BBC. And so,

I'm like, well, I guess if I get pops, I'll know exactly what it comes from. Because I just, I sat there. I was like, I inject. to the right before you came over. So I'll know if it's from that. Because people would always ask like, hey, what if you got? Like,

and I'm just thinking to myself, well, I should know what it comes from because I'm always like very weary of like what I'm putting into my body because I'm not like trying to fucking, you know, put that bad shit in there.

But like, I would be like, well, hands up. I know exactly what it comes from and explain it and do this and that. But that's why I feel like I'm able to talk about it. When you first bring it up, I'm sitting here,

I'm like, should I be tense about talking about this? But I mean, it is what it is. Yeah. It's not on a band. It's not bad. Yeah.

And if it did happen, like, we would fucking know. Look, look at that old boy right there. Just putting it into his, you guys aren't a lot. Like, YouTube doesn't. I mean, they're doing it right now. It sounds sketchy as fuck the way I'm talking because I'm sitting here sometimes at times. I'm just glad it wasn't meth. I was like, oh, shit, we're doing meth.

That's what you want to come on. You declined. You declined it, though. I'm not, I wasn't that low. I did decline. I did decline. He's like, oh, I think I'm good. I was like, bro, I promise you.

It's all good. I'm just going to drink. some coconut water. I'm good, I'm good, man. Hey, Comto, this is where I draw the line. Like, I'm not going to go this far. In Vegas, too.

You know what I'm saying? Like, think about this. We're in Vegas. It's the setting that really did it for me. If we were like in any other, like, maybe locker room or just someone's house, I was like, okay, I trust Compto. But it looked like meth. It looked like some kind of crystal meth.

We're in Vegas. He's like, yeah, you know, let's just do it one time. You know, what happens in Vegas? It stays in Vegas. Yeah. That is funny as fuck, dude. That was actually epic night. That was fun.

we had a good time. No, that was, that was, we're talking to NFLPA. That was an epic night. NFLPA? Yeah. Quincy was there too, you remember? I'll take your word for it. Yeah.

We can talk about it after. I kind of don't remember that one. For sure. I thought NFLPA was more, more chill than obviously when the island. I think it was chill for you. Okay. All right, there we go. All right.

Yeah. Show my wedding room. You're creative outside of ball. I want to dive into that. You're actually wearing a hat. Is that the hat? Yeah, this is one our hats. This is one our hats.

So I have a brand slash production company called Creative House. And pretty much what we do from a social media standpoint is we just encourage other creatives to step into their life. Everyone is a creative. It's all about how you look at something. You know, one thing may look like something from somebody else. You turn it this way. They may see a whole different perspective.

We just want people to see life that way, see racial issues that way, see policies that way, you know, the whole nine yards. Just be more creative with your thought, you know, because it just encourages people to not be as down in the dumps or pessimistic about life because shit's been tough for the last couple years, you know, a pandemic, all these other things going on. We just want to encourage people from a production standpoint. We do a lot of things with Lulu Lim and a lot of companies up in Minneapolis. So we're based out of Minneapolis. and we also do event spacing. So we rent out our physical space in Minneapolis to other entrepreneurs and creatives

who are trying to get their businesses off the ground. So we're all about the little people. So that's pretty much. What got you into that? Really, my buddy Uzama. So my buddy Uzama, he has a company called Creative Co-Pilot up in Minneapolis. It's like a parent company where he teaches other businesses

how to make content. And I was like, you know what? I think this will be serve a greater purpose. if we kind of like expand this idea and help other people who just need space to facilitate their business, you know? And we, you know, we came together. We started making apparel at first. And then from there, we're just like, you know, if we get a physical space, we can actually make money, you know, hosting people in our space, hosting our own events, building a community where people can trust us to be people who help them get to where they want to be. So that kind of grew

over the last, like we've been a company now for a little over a year. And, um, But the actual creative side of things actually came from me starting to write scripts when I first left college. You started doing that when you first left college? When I first left college, yeah. Damn. There's a lot you keep from the group chat, man. You know what? I kind of, I like to keep things close to the chest until they're actually at the point of like manifestation and like physically, tangibly you can see.

You know, because I don't like to be that guy. It's like, hey, I'm doing this. I'm doing that. I'm like, I'd rather just show you once it's ready, you know. But yeah, I first started writing screenplay when I left college. I just took a couple of like masterclasses, YouTube University. Definitely hit it up. Just to learn, you know, learn how to write screenplay.

I've always loved the essence of telling the story through film, you know, depicting things like that. Was a part of one writing team, which I won't disclose their name because we're no longer working together. We were actually writing a television show that was supposed to air three years ago, but the funding fell through. so that wasn't what it was and that pretty much sent me on a path

to start to produce my own work. So right now I'm actually writing an animated adult sitcom that I told you about I think when we were at a James wedding that we're planning to produce in 2022. And so creative house is one side

of what I do from a creative standpoint. We have our own creative concerts where we produce tiny desk concerts for local artists around the country just to give them more of a platform or more of her exposure. good? Yeah, I'm good.

Sorry. Bird just came about from nowhere. More exposure just because we feel like the underground music scene is like dying out, you know, because the streaming, anyone can rap now. Anyone can hop on and rap. And we feel like we need to kind of take the reins and bring the actual true art of people who are actually good at making music back.

So we only feature artists who are like on the come up, not guys who are already mainstream, who've already made it. We want to give back to the little people because we're always about those people who are kind of those hidden gems. Yeah. Because I consider myself an gym. Like I said, I was a two-star coming to Alabama. Second-round draft pick, yeah.

I worked for it, but, you know. Hey, did we talk about that? Put it in your blog. Put it in your blog, you know. I think we were talking about that at some point, weren't we? You touched on him being drafted. I know I touched on him being drafted. I'm talking about it in the past.

We've talked like. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, people fuel themselves. Like, me, I'll fuel myself as an undrafted cat. But I was a four-star coming out. So, you know, controversially. like arguably a bust going into the league, right? Being a four star.

But some people who are drafted high that were two stars or low stars, they'll feed on the chip of the shoulder of being a low star. I always see myself as like the underdog everywhere I go all the time. And I don't know if it's like this sociopathic thing I've told myself. It definitely is. It's all our own. But like it helps me. Like anytime I walk in the room, I'm like not that I got to prove something to anyone,

but I'm just like work hard than everybody in here. Yeah. You know? Yeah. outworked the hardest working in the room you were always about that in Nebraska for real bro you really were that was like your quote I think it was in your bio I think that's I think that's some shit you put in your bio that's kind of a dick move to say but you know but coming out he said that's a dick move

to yeah it's always I think we're all like brainwash to think we're all the underdogs you know what I mean like I'm that way being undrafted um Taylor feels that way being drafted at like 13 overall he's like there's fucking 12 motherfuckers that one what oh he argues about all the time doesn't he like Like, there's something that all of it, like all the competitor in that's just, just has to bring the light. I mean, obviously, you got to find your edges somewhere that chip on your shoulder. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if we're going to be honest since Taylor said what he said, I was mad that I went as late as I did.

And I won the single round. I was mad. You know what I mean? It's like, to me, you're a second rounder. You're like, oh, man, all fucking 32 teams passed on me. It's like, shut the fuck up, dude. You're a second round draft. You're a team's second pick.

Yeah, what was your signing bonus? I think it was like two point something, two point something. Million. Yeah. Yeah. A couple million. It was $5,000. I think, I think so.

Yeah, I was like, actually, my whole deal was four. So it might have been like, at like a million or something like that. $2,700 after taxes. I was saying, what was my signing bonus? It was like, it might have been like a million or something like that. One point, one point three. One point one. That, no, that's, that's the vet.

He got the vet guarantee right there. The vet. The vet. Minimum. He got the. Max out of that bonus there. You got to look it like the sport track. That one right there.

First. Yeah, click on it. I forget we don't have Alex. You guys got Wi-Fi in his piece. We got J. We got J.P. Trying to fucking run it back there.

Learning. Yeah. Scroll down. Let's see it. Golly, boy. 1.3 millie. That's nice, man. I tell you what,

when that first, when that first, you get your first check, bro. Is that not an incredible feeling? It was. I mean, my first check was a practice squad check, but I felt like I was on top of the fucking world. Hey, man, it's more money than what you had. Yes.

You know what I'm saying? It's more money than what you had, man. I actually had a really, really crazy draft day. Do you know my draft day story? No, but I would love for you to share it. Yeah, so draft day, I was back in Birmingham, Alabama with my family, and the second round starts. And the Arizona Cardinals called me, and they, you know, they're like, stay on the phone with us the whole draft. We're going to pick you, but we have like the, I think they had like the, I think they had like the,

team pick in the second round. And I'm on the phone with Bruce Ariens. And me and Bruce Ariens have history because he, I don't know if he's from Alabama, but he was down in Alabama for some time. And he used to host his camp at Hoover High School. When I was 14, I got a. Hoover. Hoover.

Yeah, good. Two days. Real good. Marlon Humphreys went there. But I got MVP at that camp. And jokingly, he was like, man, you're going to play in the league one day. and then ironically years later he's calling me trying to draft me so he's like dude I told you you know we're just joking about that I'm like man this is you can't write this stuff literally

before I can even like you know get so it's a pick right before Arizona Detroit's on the clock didn't even call me didn't even call me and I just hear my mom saying I'm here come inside because I went outside because I was kind of stressed out T.J. Yilden had got picked and then like I was like all right man all the draft boards said I was supposed to go before T.J. Yolting Right, right. So I was like, oh, man, I don't know what's going to happen. So my mom's like, come inside and the pick is in, and Detroit had just picked me. Didn't even call me.

So I had to tell Bruce Ariens on the phone, like, yo, I just got drafted by the Detroit Lions, you know, sorry, I can't be Arizona, you know, Cardinal. But they ended up getting David Johnson, which was a good pick for him. He was solid for him for a few years. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? They traded him for DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah.

Incredible move by Arizona. Just what the fuck the Texans sometimes. some of the homes that they made. They must have some dirt on them. I don't know. Right. You got some dirt on, I don't know. No, no say to David Johnson.

I think he's a savage. Oh, bro. But D-Hop is the one-in-lifetime type of receiver right now, bro. Like, man. Yeah. You what I'm saying? Like, yeah. What was they going to talk about with the draft?

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and so I bought into that for sure but yeah um I do think it is better to go and draft thing oh for sure yeah for sure but I want to say day one the charges called me not to obviously well clearly but they called about like yeah we're very interested in you this is a on like day one. I'm talking about probably on day three, we're going to look to get you. They drafted Manteo in the second round. But, yeah, I mean, I was let down for sure.

Salty. And I felt like the undrafted process happened really faster. Like three teams, I want to say it was like Tampa Bay, the Redskins in Chicago that were, and then a couple others that were wanting me. And then I was like, my agent was kind of talking about, you know, the depth chart and things like that.

And I thought it would be cool to play in Tampa. because obviously Levanti was there. And then he just calls me back, hey, congratulations, you're Washington, you're Washington football teammate. And so it kind of just happened fast.

I mean, everyone's, like, happy and celebrating, and I was just kind of, like, bummed, you know, that I didn't get drafted, but it made for a better story. Like,

I wouldn't change it. For sure. Like, I fucking love the whole undrafted, just journey I've been on, I feel like. But, yeah,

I was fucking bummed. So we talked about like some things I'm doing creatively. You know, we're creative house and script writing and, you know, where I want to go with that. I do have to ask this question. I know we kind of talked about it earlier.

I opened this up to everybody. Do you think that there should be in today's society, there is naturally a separation from what you do and what you love when it comes to like professionally. Like making money. a lot of times doesn't always align with what you love at least from my peers

do you think naturally a lot of times you have to separate what makes money for you from what you love like do you do you do you always see yourself with you know we're busting with the boys oh no come on now

you guys you guys are gotten to I would text in a group chat about doing a podcast something we talked about doing a pot yeah for sure maybe you feel some he went did it with a time Exactly. Hey, there we go.

Now we get into the nitty gritty. You know? We wouldn't be on a fucking bus. I'll tell you that. We wouldn't be on a bus. We wanted, Mir and I dabbled about it the thought too.

I want to say we wanted to call the black and white podcast. Keep things black and white. No gray in between. And it's a black guy and a white guy. Yeah. It's a great idea. It can still fucking happen now.

Like, let's not get a twisted. It could. Definitely could. You see the new facility. We're reeling it in. You take, you know, what you want to do with the tiny dad. Dude, I'm right in Atlanta,

I'm close. That's a 40-minute flight. That's nothing. Marry it all together. Hey, we could. We could. We really could. But no, I didn't see myself doing this, but I feel weird to answer the question

just because I've played professional football and made a lot of money. You know what I mean? Like, so I guess I want to understand more of the context. Like, do you feel, the question is what? Do you feel like it's natural to separate how you make money and doing what you love? Yeah. What's the essence of the question? So I was actually talking to a lady friend of mine, and she right now is selling life insurance.

And it's not what she really wants to do, but it makes a lot of money for her. You know, she's really an artist. You know what I mean? She's really good at, you know, videography work as well. And she does a lot of painting. That's what she likes to do to express herself. It makes her feel loved. But that shit don't make a lot of money sometimes, man.

it like the market for someone who sees themselves as an artist, something that's subjectively graded, doesn't make a lot of money. So she was kind of saying a lot of times in America, specifically, you have to separate what makes money for you from what really makes you feel good as a person, you know? And because when you try to, when you find yourself in a space where you're doing things that you really want and they're not making money for you, it can build like this. resentment where you're looking at what you do and it's kind of just like not worth it right i think a lot of it depends on what you want out of life like sometimes you've got to know what lane you're getting

into and that that resentment you ultimately create like obviously it sounds like it's easy for me to say because you know i play football now i sit on a bus um but if resentment is getting created I feel like your mental's not necessarily in the right spot because you're labeling with something, whether or not you hate it, you're labeling as somebody that's in this, you know, I would assume like capitalistic world of how you have to make money. Right. And if you're truly not happy, like my wife, for instance, she was an accountant making solid money out in D.C. Like a P.PWC. Does that sound like a, does that sound like accounting? Okay.

One of the bigger accounting brands out there. and she was a tax accountant and she had a trajectory of like you know going and you want to make partner and you want to make a lot of money and she left being a tax accountant to start managing bar three studios getting in the fitness because of the whole mind body connection like all that kind of stuff so she you know took a serious pay cut and wanted to kind of go chase her dream of owning a bar three studio which one day i believe she will and um you know she's an example of somebody who like left something that they didn't enjoy doing because they weren't getting what they wanted out of life. I think ultimately you have to ask yourself like what

you're wanting out of life. You know what I mean? Like yeah, we played ball, but we knew going to college and everything we were putting into like myself. I was a very focused individual like wanting to play football in high school. I feel like I had a good head on my shoulders. I had good influences. Like I came from a small, you know, I won't say podug town, Podugtown, Bonten, Missouri. Say it without saying it. Um, but you're in a, a small town where you you're not taught to think outside of small town not because people didn't want to but you almost don't know how to because not a lot of people leave where I grew up there was never there of you can count on one hand people that went and played that went

and did something in college on a D1 level for in from athletics nobody really played professionally there's a punter um that played for the Ravens for a long time I forget it it might have been like Kyle Richardson maybe um who played for a long time of the Ravens that came out of like a few towns over, but nobody ever went on and did stuff that, you know, I'm getting to currently do and like my brother going on scholarship to wrestling. Like you're never taught to think outside of that element, right? And so I think ultimately you need to figure out like what you want. I say that from a fortunate standpoint of like learning young that I wanted to put in

such an amount of work to football to hopefully be a professional football player one day. But I knew like learning under, we talk about the process of everything else. You're not a summertime guy. You're an all the time guy. So what I did in football, I knew I needed to take the same standards and approach it to what I wanted to do next. Because at the end of the day, no one's coming to save you. Like, no one's going to lay, I've went on about this before. I got to talk about it on Token CEO, Erica Nardini's podcast, that you don't lay that same.

No one is sharing your pillow at night, whether or not you have somebody laying next to you. Like they can be your biggest supporter of all time. but they're not carrying the stress that you have going on in your life. So unless you figure out like what it is that's truly eaten at you and truly bothering you, you don't necessarily have to set forth some kind of plan of action. Because like you said it, like you get to a place. And fortunately, you were playing in the league to where you knew you were all right financially, but mentally didn't meet what people saw you as.

Right. But you had to wake up one morning or a consistent amount of mornings and kind of question, like what am I fucking wanting out of this because I'm a second round draft pick I had a decent first year I've gotten injured I'm downloading the dumps like how am I going to you know get myself out of that I think that's ultimately like what people have to do and you might have to take a shitty way at first right but ultimately like you have to start with the end in mind like what is the goal you want what is the process that's going to get me there and again it's easy to say and talk about but it's truly what I've done with anything I've ever I feel like I've cultivated in my life. life. And you got to review it and feel it and see it every day. Like you're where you're at mentally because you've built habits of waking up with the sun. Like I'm, and I don't know, I'm ignorant to some of this stuff. I'm starting to learn about the spiritual side of things. But you talk about waking up with the sun, like moving your body. Like you want your, you want your mental to be in a certain place that where you're feeling good no matter what's happening in your life. You said

your heart rate doesn't rise as much anymore. I've seen you post photos of, have you. You you meditating before a game when some people like myself are getting amped up I'm painting my face I'm fucking talking about pre-workout like you're you're flowing you're in some flow state right but you don't get there you had to see what you wanted right and the process for you to get there was like I'm going to change my habits and how I'm going to review it and feel it every day is I'm going to set my alarm at 515 it's going to go off because it's going to trigger something psychologically my brain on this is why I'm doing this and you're doing it every day and these habits have formed over time and created and manifested

this being that you've wanted mentally spiritually. I'm not talking about the football stuff. I'm talking about another form that people might be able to relate to. Like maybe you're in a job that you don't like, but there's a side hustle that you're doing. And some of you guys, I would love for you guys to try and me to speak on it because you guys, you know, not, you guys are in like a perception

to where it could be relative to somebody else listening. I all, Will's up there. He's been a eight-year vet. He's sent on an above-average podcast. You know what I mean? And so I'm trying to think of something that's relative to everybody else. But ultimately it's you got to figure out what you want. And in all areas, not just financially. Because you chase money, you're never going to stop chasing.

You know, you chase in a certain area. You're never going to stop chasing. Like you say, you can't pull the moon to you. You got to, what was the rest of that quote? You can't pull the moon to you. You got to, I don't know, you said something fucking beautifully earlier. But it's got to be like a cultivation throughout all of your areas, right? And you have to figure out a way to review it.

I'm a big believer in writing shit down. I write to myself all the time. I write goals like this podcast. It was a small goal now that I think about it. But I can take a photo and put it on here. But there's a writing in my old journal that was back in 2016, I believe, or 2017, in April, something, 2016. I want to be one of the first,

I want to be the first, I don't know if I was, I think we were, active NFL player podcast with a million downloads slash coach, because I've, you know,

I've always had aspirations and coaching as well. I thought you said that to me before. I might have, because I've shared, like, stuff with, like, you know, some of my boys that,

like, we always kind of mentally check in with each other. I do remember you. Quincy sent me a text, like, from years back, talking about the podcast.

And, but I've written that shit down. Like, I've written, down anything that has kind of transpired. Whether or not I've gotten there, it's been like up and down because there's also like getting a three, earning a three year contract, like when I became a starter, was able to play a whole season. I didn't attain that. There's going to be some you fall short of, but for me personally, it's start with the end in mind, figure out what

you want, understand what that process looks like. And it might be a shittier process than a lot of people. Like, everyone's going to have a different wind at their sale. It's just life. Like life, it just fucking is what it is. No one is coming to save you. Whatever your situation is, no one's coming to save that except you figuring out what you want out of it. Yeah. And then figuring out how to review and feel it every day. Some people might say, hey, that's too ambition driven. That's too like, you know, you feed your mind, like you want too much or, like people sometimes are pushed away from the whole personal development kind of side of things because it's very like ambitious right and uh i'm learning now recently i'm saying a lot

of different stuff i'm jumping around no man i'm taking a lot from it uh one thing that really hit me when you were talking about you're saying no one's going to come and save you and kind of going back to the question of like do you choose what makes money or do you choose what makes you happy i think a lot of reasons why people don't choose what just makes them happy as as far as like you know their profession to lead in is because they don't want to take the accountability of the self accountability of like if they fail because you're relying on yourself like if you're an

entrepreneur I know the term gets thrown around a lot now but someone who works for yourself builds your own you know your own businesses everything comes from you isn't any structure of your job telling you when you got to go to work you know any programs that's saying like this is how we're going to facilitate our business you have to come up with

everything on your own And taking the accountability when it's going well and when it's not going well is a lot of pressure. And I think a lot of people would rather just say, you know what? I would rather just fall in line and kind of be a little bit miserable on the day to day and make a little money on the way as opposed to being liberated spiritually by doing what I set out to do. But working 10 times is hard. I'll tell you what, the whole entrepreneurial life is not a, it's not like, It's a term that gets thrown out there and like, you know, 90% of entrepreneurs fail.

Yeah. Because you got to put, you got to put everything into practice. Like it is on you. Like, bro, you've done your stuff over the years and you drop stuff in group chats and people share your stuff. Like you've done a, you know, a multitude of things, right? You've sat down with like kids. Like you've done some cool, dope shit. Real estate.

Real estate. And you can drop it. You can drop it. You can drop it. And I hope your boys share it and do things like that. but at the end of the day, bro, like, nobody cares, work harder. And that sounds fucking crazy shit. It's so true.

But it is. It's so true. And if your mental's not right about it, like, there is a spiritual side to it. Like, there's times where I got to sit back, like, I'm craving too much. I'm desiring too much. And I don't know if it's coming from, I don't know if it's coming from me or an influence of me looking at other shit out there. And I'm feeding my soul differently than I need to.

I'm not, I'm not focusing. and reading what I want to read. I'm scrolling a little bit more. I'm looking at other people's pages. I'm like feeding my soul differently, but I can get to the root of why I'm getting that way to where I can reel it in and be like, comp, you're not on this trajectory right now. I might see something from you, seeing you breathing. And I'm like, I need to get back on my breathwork. I sit here like I read a breath book and I did breathing for a month. And now I'm going to tell people I breathe now. Then I stop doing it for a little bit. But oh, I'm on that shit. You know what I mean? like you have to check yourself which goes to 1,000% self-accountability.

And you do like where you are right now currently is based on literally every decision you've made. You might have had some bad fucking situations happen to you. But even the way you respond to every situation is still a choice. It's still something universal where the universe is going to continue to lead you down that path or lead you back. Again, we're saying a lot of different shit. I hope I'm not jumping around too many different spots.

But like it ultimately. comes down to that's a very like it's just a personal question like are you what are you wanting out of it all because what is success to you right like that's the million dollar question like you we always ask what success is at one point in time for me success was winning a conference title with my boys and fucking bench squatting 500 pounds like my my goals were very self like prophecy type of fucking like ambitious shit that have to do only with football and nobody else nothing else going on like i want to be the best football player and yeah i look back now and it's like man i was so ego driven back then and there's still ego i

carry on all the time right i think um if i can't yeah like please do save me i think everything you're saying is part of that lego piece that's making will compton who he is it's like it wasn't that you was just ego driven at that time you were exactly who you needed to be at that time you need to feed that side of yourself to create this complete person who you're becoming. Right. You know? It's like one thing like for me, I do, I do believe in like the Zodiac and shit like that. I'm a Gemini.

So like I'm very like, it's hard for me to focus on one thing sometimes. But I do believe like if you really want to be successful, you have to focus on one thing at a time. You know what I'm saying? Like Bruce Lee used to like, once one thing they said he used to do to train like his focus is he would watch, like, water just drip from a faucet. And try not to think about anything else, but that water dripping from a foster for like an hour.

Could you imagine doing that? Like, training your focus like that helps you in so many other ways. And to, as we go through the ups and downs in life, you may be in a space where you identify success as winning a conference championship with your buddies or squatting that. And it's not that you were a bad person in that time where you were self. if you're egoic, it's just in that moment in time, you were crafting that side that makes the whole image of who you are.

The whole, you know, it's just, it's like one Lego piece. It's like Jenga, you know what I mean? It's like that one piece you just slid that in. And then the next phase, now you're working on your family. That's the next, you know, the way you identify with success. And then once you kind of get that, slide in. There's always a continuing work. You're always going to be doing, you know, construction on those areas that you've built.

But, you know, every piece is. for specific times. So like I would never identify or look at different places, spaces in life where I was, as if I was over consumed of anything. It's like, no, I was exactly where I needed to be in that time because I was crafting who I am.

If I wasn't, if you weren't who you were at that time, overconsuming like the football shit, you probably wouldn't even be here right now. No, I agree. I do agree with that wholeheartedly because we'll, even from the, in terms of like, program development with like working out and shit like that it's like we can talk about what would be best for our bodies now but back then the the programs we were doing whatever whatever thoughts

and methodologies are out there about them were needed because of the cultural stuff that's going on around the program as well you know what I'm saying like you're you're just insane we were in such a phase of like learning about our own culture and how to create like leadership teammate like we talk about stuff now like you man these these schools get this off the kids blah blah blah like you know I'm fucking jumping everywhere now but I agree with you that I needed all that stuff back then I feel like it helped kind of create I mean it has helped create who I am now and I think like all those this ones like if you're sitting there watching if you're sitting here watching or listening wherever you get your podcast subscriber rate five stars um it's however you take this in

The thought isn't compare where you're at to where you need to be, to where you should be, to where you have been, to where somebody else is or so-and-so is right or this, that the other. It doesn't matter. What matters is like if you want to make a choice to change where you're at now. You know what I mean? Like it's not like, you can sit there and be like, yeah, that is who I was. And literally from this moment walking out of door, if we wanted to change something else about ourselves, we can become that person by building habits toward whatever we're thinking.

So all to go back to your question of like how what was it? How do you separate or separating? Do you think you can? Do you think is necessary to separate what makes money for you from what makes you happy on like a general, you know, level? Because like you said, we're kind of anomalies in a sense, right? Right. People who are who did do or are doing the things that they love,

as since they were kids playing football, you know, and it also makes money for them. But then we're not the, you know, we're not the majority. majority in that aspect. So do you think it's healthy for people to kind of get in the mindset of like, let me separate what's making money from me from what actually makes me happy? Right. And I do. I think that's such a one-on-one question for yourself.

Because at the end of the day, like when we say, nobody cares work harder, nobody's sleeping in your pillow at night. Like, no one's going to save you. Like another one. Like, when you realize it's a one-player game, like, I got that one from Mike Stud, shout out Mike Stud. When you realize it's a one-player game, like, you know, it's what you want out of life, man.

Like it's hard for us to answer that for people. But I mean, we give our perspectives, but it's like you do it with a grain of salt because, you know, we're kind of in the spot we're in now. We interrupt this episode. The shout out the boys over at Sportcliffe. Shout out, sport clips, no free shoutouts. You know what I found out, boys?

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than it was like our parents generation they didn't have as much of opportunity for my entrepreneur's side there wasn't as much money going around. So my dad, he's doing a job that he doesn't love, but it came down to the point where like, hey, do I want to support my family or do I want to chase my dream in which I wouldn't be able to give my family the life I think they deserve? And so I think now, like we sort of do a disservice if we don't chase our passions and dreams

because the people before us, depending on your situation, created the opportunity for us to do, to chase our passion. because they couldn't. So that's kind of where I... It's a good point. That's a good point. I fuck with that. So given that example,

they sacrificed maybe what they wanted to do for the later. What are we sacrificing? What's one thing that we can pinpoint this? Like, okay, we're sacrificing. That kind of defines our generation. The defines that's going to set up the next generation. Can you identify with anything that you feel like, yeah, this is a sacrifice that if I had in my way,

it would be different, but I'm doing it for the greater good? What is that? what is that sacrifice? Our own personal sacrifice for the... Because we're all like millennials in here. Like, what are we sacrificing? I think there's more blueprints and outlets that allow to, like, tap in. I mean, there's so many resources now.

You know what I mean? Like, it's not about how many resources you have. It's about how resourceful you can be with what you do have. You know what I mean? Like, like, we've all gotten... We've all had to go through sacrifice and certain, like, you know, muddy waters to get to where we are.

It's not like you don't want to, you don't want to create a life to where nobody's not having to go through sacrifice. But, you know, I think one, one thing we're doing is taking the stuff we've learned and continuing to create more access to people. I don't know if that makes sense,

but. No, makes sense to me. It's like, you know, back in the day it was just books, right? And then the internet comes.

Now you got, there were a few podcasts. Now there's many podcasts. Like there's so many avenues of like it's, again, it's sitting with yourself. It's sitting with yourself. Like the conversation you have with yourself is the most important conversation you can have because that's how you figure out like, you know, the wiser decisions,

the decisions that you ultimately want. And the resource, again, the resources are out there. So, um, but that's a, it's a fucking deep question. Like, what are we giving? Yeah.

I don't fucking know. Me neither. I feel like for me, it's just like, like all the experiences I've had and the consciousness I've been able to have, like within learning the things from the, from what I sponged in high school, from what I got to sponge in college,

from when I got to sponge around all my friendships, from what I got to sponge from my mentors, from how my mind started to shift in balancing both football in life outside of football and taking all of that and now being able to do it in a unique way through microphones and, you know, giving it to people, giving access to people to what before there wasn't a lot of access to like athletes like we have now if I can be some kind of avenue one of the few avenues that allow that and people get something out of it I feel like that's you know service in itself I'll say this going back to what you said with the

generation before it was that generation X whatever that was or whatever um you know them kind of maybe sacrificing not um doing what they love to provide for their families I was say something I guess we inherited from the residual opportunity to go to college or whatever we inherited from that generation. I say what we are passing down is the power of choice because we do have a generation of entrepreneurs, millennials, people who don't have to necessarily sacrifice for the family to provide and to also love what they do. Let me say that. it over. You don't have to sacrifice what you love to do to provide for your family.

A lot of people are actually doing what they love and also providing for their family. And I think what that creates for the next generation was a Generation Z or Y or T. Where the fuck they are by now? Generation Z is I do see a lot of kids who are leading like a lot of campaigns and

choice to to evoke change. And you know things are really really important. So I think like I guess what we're passing down is the power of choice saying like you don't this isn't not to always be like this if you don't want it to be just like you said when you yeah no that's you know like just like you said when we leave here we can choose to be a completely different person if we want to and I think that mindset was not as universally understood just 33 years ago right you know that is why you get some pushback sometimes

from the older generation like oh y'all don't get it y'all don't get the sacrifices where the sacrifice is just a little different that was well said though before we get off here because this has been a long fucking pod been a banger by the way subscriber five stars wherever you get your podcast I do

I disagree with you can only focus on one thing at a time who me yeah I disagree with you saying that I can't focus on one thing what I was saying is like to get the full which and this is just between me and you this is just I'm just saying this for me to you

I'm not saying like, yeah. Are you saying personally, I can't focus on that day or something? Are you saying just generally? I feel like some of the, to me, when I think about this is my own personal, this is my own personal. Somebody might be different. Some people might need to operate on one thing at a time. Yeah. But don't worry about a plan B because it deteriorates from plan A.

And I'm not as much of a believer in that as I used to be. Just because I feel like the way my journey's been in the recent years is I was figuring, and I was focusing on a plan B. You got creative house. You juggle both ball. You juggle being a professional 1% of the 1% and also you're building a brand. Like you're being an entrepreneur.

So like it's ultimately comes on to prioritizing and how you spend, I guess, your days. You know what I'm saying? No, I get that. Some people listening do need to focus on one thing. I do agree with that. I do agree with that. And I like that you put that where you're saying

you can focus on plan B because you hear that all the time, especially when it comes to athletes. Correct. Where they're saying, like, focus on school first, you know, all that stuff. Like, football should be your plan B. They always say that. I'm just like, no, like, the student athletes. Or you're going until you're getting a team meeting.

And it's, hey, a student athletes. You are, yeah. Hey, you are student athletes. You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. For real, you know? But, no, I definitely agree.

I agree that, because I do a multitude of things myself. And I enjoy it because fundamentally, I'm the same person in all of those things. They all are different strokes of my paintbrush, but they're all coming from the same fundamental idea of I like to teach people. I think I'm a teacher in life, and no matter if I'm playing football or shooting someone

or writing a script, I'm thinking about teaching. And I think it comes down to when you ask that great question, that million dollar question, how do you define success? What is your common denominator that you see in everything?

thing that you do in life. You know, when you're a father, what do you see? When you're doing busing with the boys, what do you see? When you're a husband, what do you see? When you play football, what do you see? What do all those things have in common? What's the common denominator? And that's success.

I'm the same person, integrity. And that's your, like, that's like your unique ability as a person. Like when you can operate in your whatever unique ability is, like, I feel like you get a lot of freedom out of that. For real. It's facts. Hey, that was solid, bro. Solid, man.

There was anything else? No, I'm good. I mean, unless this is something. Oh, you were supposed to play. You were going to also disagree with doing two things at once. What were you going to say? I think you just answered that, right? Yeah, yeah.

You do it as long as you can comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. What I was saying earlier is a lot of times to be like fully successful in a sense of I see success of just like Kobe Bryant type of like mentality of focus. Yeah. You got to focus on one thing out of time. That means like the actual actions.

That's not like your whole big scheme of things because even Kobe was getting Oscars and shit. He was doing other shit. But when it came to basketball and he's practicing, he's focusing on one thing that day. That's what I've been doing. I go in one day and I'm like, I'm focusing on finishing my runs. That's it. I'm not focusing on

Oh, I got to do this, got to do that All these multitude of things It's like today is about finishing runs Tomorrow is about Blocking, you know what I mean? The next day is about If I want to take my game to the next level I'm trying to catch everything one-handed

In practice today Just focusing on one thing And I think that's how you sharpen your skills Bruce Lee said this too I keep, you know, taking from Bruce Lee He didn't fear the man That could do a thousand kicks He feared the guy who can do one kick

who did a one kick a thousand times because you know that one kick is going to knock your ass out. Yeah. But if you do a whole bunch of kicks, you never really mastered any of those kicks. You just did a bunch of kicks. But you got one straight kick to the chest that you've done a thousand times. That's all you need.

That's all you need. So. No, that's well said. That's how you really like become successful. It's like focus on that one thing every day. Definitely, you know, type into that. Yeah. For real.

Now I'm going to. You, you spoke some wisdom on today's spot. man that's what i came for i'm very thankful for it i'm thankful bro it's been a long time coming i'm glad that i can join this aura i think you guys got a beautiful thing going man i would love to definitely hey man like and white you can still be a thing it can still be a thing man but no i'm mad taylor wouldn't hear me i had a couple questions for him bro but it is what it is i catch you maybe i'll come back in those day when i when i'm one of my show drops when my show drops in this entire different space yeah i tell you what whenever you got things like dropping and stuff like that's you

You got to go on the PR runs. Oh, I got to. That's what it is. You know what I mean? Like, come back. Like, you might not understand that, but you got to go on PR runs. What does that mean? It means you got to start saturating your stuff on a lot of different shows.

You got to go on like a tour. That's why I got to get better at because I am naturally, like, I can talk to people, but I'm naturally kind of introverted. And that's probably why you're like, you don't drop shit in the group town. I'm like, I'm kind of introverted while I keep things close to the chest. And that's something I need to break out of more. But I see you guys do a really good job, like, you know. saturating in a good way. You got just content.

We appreciate that. That's shout out to all the boys back there. You got some apparel I can take with me, you know? I can take one of these pillows. Not in the box? Yeah. I'll send you a box. Okay, cool, cool, cool.

We know how I am with mailing stuff. I got to get to a flight, so. What time's your flight? 546. So let me get up out of here, 332. Yeah, you got a roll. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on, brother. Hey, I love you.

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