Bussin' With The Boys - Back Of The Bus | Thomas Edwards Is The Next BIG Thing In Music + Playing Hungover For Tennessee

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Recorded: June 18th 2025 | Welcome back to the Back Of The Bus pod, this week we have our first ever guest and one of the boys, Thomas Edwards. Thomas is friends with Jack and Garrett and played footb...all for the University of Tennessee and is now an emerging country music singer. He tells some stories of his playing days including a hilarious story of him playing hungover against Kentucky. We then dive into his music career so far and the journey he has been on since starting. He gets into his love of making music and how he loves just making people feel good in anyway that he can. Thomas drops some absolute bars throughout this episode that hit deep and is one of the most charismatic people you will meet. Enjoy fellas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Welcome back. This is technically episode six. Six. Welcome to episode six. We have a very special treat for you today. It's actually technically our first guest in recording order. But joining us today on Back of the Bus is XVL recording artist, songwriter, wow. Legend. Aficionado? Wow, legend.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Thomas Edwards. Everyone give it up for Thomas Edwards. Let's go Thomas. Hey, you did say something, though. You know, I'm not an ex-VFL, man. I'm a Volfer. Yeah, honestly saying that felt weird. Thomas did play for the University of Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:01:42 but he is correct. He is a once a VFL, always a VFL, except for maybe Matt Malone, our intern. Yeah, he's a hated. We're not going to, we're not going to take too much time on him. We've already said his name way too fast. He's a VFN, VFAR for now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yeah, VFNES. He spent most of his weekends in Tuscaloosa. Oh. Yeah, which, you know, it's funny go down to T-Town, but not every weekend. You got to hold it down in Knoxville. But, yeah, this is a super special episode because me and Garrett are very, very close with Thomas. He's one of our greatest friends. He is a very talented songwriter and musician.
Starting point is 00:02:15 He is going to blow up. And if he's not already on that path, it's really cool to have you here, Thomas. Oh, man. We would love for you to maybe give the viewers who don't know who you are, a little background, maybe start from like day one. you know first breath first memory and then just kind of go from there so my parents are hanging out in the summer of 1994 and they felt an immense passionate love of fall across them and then they banged and i came out in 1995 in march uh but then uh so the most recent parts of my life that are noteworthy uh expand on that expand on that uh no i played football at tennessee uh you know my NFL dreams
Starting point is 00:02:55 got smashed because i got a shoulder surgery my senior year and it wasn't just my shoulder surgery that smashed my NFL dreams. I also didn't play a lot. But the shoulder thing was just icing on the cake. I grew up playing a lot of music. My family is a big music family.
Starting point is 00:03:13 All it's my great-grandpa, he played banjo for June Carter back in the day when she was in the Carter sisters. My mom and dad, aunt and uncle, grandpa, grandma, cousins, they all play music. So it's always been a part of my life. And then I went to play football
Starting point is 00:03:28 because I was a big burly man and I was like, I got to do something about this. Played football for a little bit and then got a... Sorry, I love a camera. Doing socials. Yeah, love a moment on the camera. Love a moment on the camera, man.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So then, you know, I got played football for a little bit and, you know, my life kind of switched when... Even though I didn't play a lot, you know, you still had to practice the same amount. So when you get hurt in football, you go from 100 miles an hour to zero. And during that, I kind of just like was like, what the heck am I doing?
Starting point is 00:03:59 I need to figure out something to do with my times. I picked up a guitar and I wrote my first song when I was in college. And then I had this kind of unrealistic life at Tennessee and I was grateful that I kind of realized that early. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to move to the middle of nowhere and just go live in the real world.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Because the funny thing about Tennessee, you play there and then like me, a guy was a non-contributor, I go to the mall and people know who I am when I'm at the food court. And that's just like not. real depiction of life and I knew that and I'm grateful that I had that awareness so I just moved to the middle of nowhere I moved to franklin kentucky which is like an hour and 15 minutes north of here
Starting point is 00:04:38 nashville shout out of man gambling hall yeah it's right they saw me visit me they came up busy to me man yeah I just lived across the street from this warehouse I worked at for three years and then about two years into that I was like I don't want to do this anymore worked another year save the money and then quit and started doing music not just coach you off Thomas acts like it was some like a little lowbray it was tractor supply he was the youngest man in history there and he was running a floor of how many people? Yeah, it was a million square foot warehouse, 600 employees. I was the production manager.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So I was like my job was over it. Saved up some money. You know, yeah, my job was a fun job, man. It was every day I'd on Monday, I would get on a call with a bunch of executives at tractor supply and convinced them without lying that the building wasn't on fire and we weren't behind on everything. And it really was a great life lesson though. It taught me how to like strategically lie to corporate people, which is a great. It's a great skill to have. That's not going to help us get a sponsorship from tractor supply.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Actually, I just got a sponsorship from tractor supply. Let's go. We do the work or whatever their slogan is. We're in the process of it, man. So I don't even know what it even means. It's pretty cool, man. They're really passionate. They're heckwarded out of Nashville and have a big presence with music and love music.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I grew up going there with a farm in East Tennessee. and then work there and then now I play music so it's just kind of was a softball toss. You know how that came to be though? I just cold emailed the CEO of TractorSploy. Y'all need a manager. Classic. And I'm here.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, I was just like, hey, you guys want to sponsor me? I used to work there. And they're like, yeah, talk to the, and you just emailed me back. Oh, God. You know, they just worked. That's genius. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Were you all in charge of, I'm guessing since it was a warehouse, were you in charge of like the shipping and receiving side to stores? It was a distribution center So we save your Mars pet food You send a That bag goes from the Mars pet food plant To this distribution center To the store
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yeah it's literally so not glamorous I worked the whole time during COVID They never closed You know my essential worker That was essential dude My job became like Air traffic controlling CDC regulations That changed every day
Starting point is 00:06:51 To 500 employees that live in South Central Kentucky That do not give a shit about any of them So like it was crazy crazy. That was fun. I love chaos, man. And it was just chaos all the time. It was like, you guys, you can go, you can take your masks off outside now, but when you, as soon as you step in the building, you got to have them on. And then like three days later, it's like, we got to have masks on outside now. And then it was just crazy, man. And I was the guy that had to like take this information and like train our managers on like how to disseminate it
Starting point is 00:07:18 between people and crazy. It was just nuts. That was like a thing I did in my life. And it seems so far away. But it really was like four years ago, one that long ago. So I feel like most people in here can relate, if not everyone. Like not all of us played football. Mitch played football in college, uh, Cusquahana. But for most of us, it's like, I feel like we started in a like kind of non-glorious atmosphere, whether it was like for me selling windows or like just like whatever mundane job that you did before you maybe took a chance on being creative.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So like we might not understand the whole like football dilemma and like being recognized, you know, Westtown Mall to being here and tractor supply. But I feel like we all can take a piece of like, You do really have to take a shot. Like, I don't want to turn this into some, like, someone dying down there? Hey, shut up. Is everybody okay?
Starting point is 00:08:08 You all good? I said it in the mic. That did sound fantastic. I don't want this to turn into some, like, motivational speech podcast, but I do think it's important for any, like, aspiring creators out there to know, like, it doesn't just happen. Like, you're not going to just wake up
Starting point is 00:08:24 and be in, like, some dream opportunity where like everything's cool and kosher. Like even today when we work in this atmosphere where it's amazing, there's so very much stressful days and like chaotic opportunities all the time. But, you know, it's important I feel like to figure out like what you don't like doing before you figure out like what you do like doing. So I feel like everyone can kind of take a little piece of what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Like once you figure out that like, yeah, the warehouse is not for me and you take a risk creatively. Like that's what ultimately pays off. And we've had millions of conversations in kitchens late night talking about this. exact idea but will you kind of like walk us through like your process on starting your music endeavors and like where that kind of stem from outside of you being already musically inclined yeah dude uh well i i think and the tune to that creative thing man like it's it's it's you know someone told me when i first was working it was like you can't take advice from average people
Starting point is 00:09:17 if you want to do something different so as soon as i kind of learn that and realize like if people don't understand what i want to do it's just on them it's not the fact that i'm crazy If you want to do something, you can just do it. You just figure out how to do it. And that's kind of the approach that took the whole time. And I used to be a guy that was like, I don't want to ask him because he's going to say no. And now it's just like, I don't even care. Like back to that email thing.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's just, you know, and I learned that like, you know, getting into music, I had this wall up that like I cared too much that someone else cared about what I was doing. And then with the most liberating thing that kind of accelerated everything in my world was when I just let go of that. And the biggest thing, you know, the kind of the first domino that fell for me to kind of, you know, wave my arms in Nashville and say, hey, look at me, I'm making music. It was when I did that Tennessee song. And it's a song that's so deliberately about my life. And when I was writing, I was like, this is lame as hell. Like, who the hell? Like, who's going to, like, what does this even?
Starting point is 00:10:16 But my manager, Rusty, me and him wrote it together. He's from East Tennessee. And he's not a music manager. We just kind of partnered up and rub some sticks together and made some shit happen. but the um but yeah he was like that's exactly what people want to hear and then and i then that song came out and then the school wrapped their arm around it they played into the uh you know on the jumbo tron and stuff and then they and then they came to town here to open the season one day or one year against virginia and that first day uh the game of the season they played it in nissan and that was
Starting point is 00:10:46 kind of the my entry into this music business world it was just like you had these music executives that, you know, they have control and know what's going on in the country music space. And all of a sudden there's this huge Sasquatch looking dude on the Jumbotron singing a song that they hadn't heard. And that was kind of what got the ball rolling. But, you know, that's, that was all the external stuff. I think it, you know, I quit my job in 2000, October, 2021. And last year in 2024 in March, I signed a publishing deal, which is the first revenue stream that I got from music. So they're, they like to think the academy.
Starting point is 00:11:28 But the funny thing is, is like every time that I thought I was going to get to the point where I was like, that made it. You just read, you're as a creative, your brain just kind of restructures towards another mountain that's far away. And I learned that like, you know, through that process, you have to be, you have to be comfortable and excited for doing what you're doing every day. You know, like the marathon's 26 miles and the finish line is one foot. you have to like the you have to like the quote graphic yeah yeah man quote graphic that's all make it the same that's a songwriter say that one more time a marathon is 26 miles and runners are crazy and they don't like the finish line they like the way they feel when they're in mile 19 you know and so just you know you just got to know that the process
Starting point is 00:12:14 is more important especially for a creative and it's so hard not to fall especially in this forward facing business that we're we're all in this where your work is is put on a pedestal immediately, you know, and there's no time for editing and reactions. It's just like more, more stuff out there that promotes what we got to do. And, you know, the way that I keep sanity is we make paper airplanes as creatives. And we close our eyes on top of a mountain and we chuck them. And the best creatives, as soon as they chuck them, they just look right back down to start making them more paper airplanes. Where they land have nothing to do with who you are, who you are as a creative.
Starting point is 00:12:52 there's wind, there's rain, there's walls, there's people, there's all these things that happen after they're out of your hand. Amen. Yeah, let's go, man. Sorry, you get me going, man. But like, I just, I saw, I just kind of preach it right now. No, man, shit. Sorry, I get excited.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But, like, that's a, I just kind of, I realized that no one was going to tell that shit to me. And I had to tell it to myself. And I had, I just started working on my body of work. And, you know, the other day, I wrote my, I kind of counted all my songs since I'd been writing. and I had written 212 songs in two years. $212 paper airplanes. Yeah, that's right, man. Guess how many of them they're good?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Maybe 20, maybe 30, maybe, I don't even know. Like, I don't even, what's good even mean at this? Like, once you start doing that so much, it's like your, your brain opens up. Because, like, you know, as a music consumer, everyone has this, is this good? Is this bad? And that's where you start at. Then you realize, oh, this could be good for someone else. I get it, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:49 And then it kind of expands on that. and through that I figured out the kind of music that I like to make and it's only just through doing throwing 212 paper airplanes
Starting point is 00:13:58 that you realize you figure out that I just like making paper airplanes you know like it's up to it's up to the people if they want to see
Starting point is 00:14:04 where they land you know come all man yeah yeah yeah yeah my bad yeah
Starting point is 00:14:12 yeah my bad y'all no no bro keep spitting keep spitting it's so cool to like see like your
Starting point is 00:14:20 ascension and stuff already even though like you've just started and like we like Jack and G introduced us to you like just as to start it like when you first started like I remember going to your like when you played at Acme and that was like this is so sick like I know that guy and he's out here performing
Starting point is 00:14:36 in front of however many people there were there yeah that was that was awesome that they fire marshaled that night at that Acme thing was that the Virginia Tech game yeah it was the same game I plugged in an old hard drive at home recently looking for something and came across pictures from that. It's crazy, man. That's wild
Starting point is 00:14:52 that we're talking about that night. Yeah, and I think the craziest thing with my music career is I have been incredibly you know, and it's probably to my own defeat at sometimes you know, I, my progress is kind of like, unless you're like my friend and I talk about it to you, it's like, you wouldn't really
Starting point is 00:15:08 like, if you went to my Instagram right now, you wouldn't really know, like all the things that were going on, you know, and I've kind of you know, at first it was like I think, I was like, you know, I got to do something about this, but like, I don't know. I think as I kind of got more into this, I realized, like, you know, I'm loving what I'm doing right now and I'm making progress in this business world.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like that's just a piece of the pie. Like, wouldn't, you know, I have songs coming out starting next month. So that, you know, the world changed there. We're, you know, I'm going to be inundating you with my stuff on the internet soon. But, you know, it's been really, it's kind of been a soul searching thing because I don't have these, you know, there's not a, there's not an Instagram grid milestone thing that you typically see from the. the, you know, from an artist. And I just learned that from, that helped me so much to know that, like, that's not what matters.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You know, I, I know that I started writing songs. I know that I got a publishing deal. And then I know I got a record deal. And I know there's people that believe in me and are just straight up gambling on me with zero data analytic backing. Just like, hey, this guy's got a good story to tell and he can make music. And that's what gets me up every day. Not the fact that it's like, did this do well?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Does this thing do well? And it's so easy to get caught. up in that in a creative forward-facing job like i think to build off of that and to give you some credit on top of you being incredibly talented when you walk in a room you're immediately friends with everybody in there for sure and that is something that i've always thought about you is you have such a leg up in that aspect is i hate using the word like you're sellable but yeah you get in a room with the right people then it's like you know how to just be yourself and then let the music put that cherry on top where they're like oh shit like this guy's
Starting point is 00:16:55 not only a good guy honest truth to himself funny but he can fucking ball yeah that's and that's kind of my whole thing man i just want people to feel good and and the way that and with no because that's what makes me feel good and the medium in which that that happens is up to them like if if i can talk to them and say you know make them feel good in five seconds in the room or if they can just go home and listen to a song that makes them feel good like Like, I just always say I like to sing with a smile, man. Like very seldomly am I singing this dejected, sad, you know, like, my sad songs are like, man, I got my heart broke.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But at least I learned something, you know. You know, it's like there's always this redemption at the end of it. Because that's how I am as a person, man. I'm just, I was very grateful to have parents that, you know, we're just like, you can do whatever you want all the time. And, I mean, in all my brothers, my older brother is a criminal defense litigator in Philadelphia. and my little brother's about to be a park ranger. So like, we are doing the things that they said.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And it's just, and I attribute them. That's how my mom is. She doesn't know a stranger, man. She'll talk to the person. She's the reason why I don't use self-checkout at a grocery store. She's like, if you talk. Yeah, she's like, if you talk to them. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:20:16 And I was just, you know, when you're like a rebellious kid, you're like, shut up, mom. Put the fries Yeah, come on. Put the, Fuck, check the, I'm getting this Noss energy drink on. But she's so right, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:30 meaningless interactions are not meaningless. You know, we dub them as that because the pace of life goes too fast. And I think of, I think that my job on earth is to, is to let people know that and remind them of that with me being around them
Starting point is 00:20:44 or just playing stupid little fun songs, you know, you know, it's, I've won the lottery because I've figured that out. And I think, that's the one thing that I will tell everyone is like just spend time trying to figure it out whatever it is for you. At least you can do is just try, you know, for sure. Going back to like you talking about your Instagram feed and all that kind of stuff, there's not really
Starting point is 00:21:04 milestones. But there have been some Easter eggs recently that you've been putting out that are awesome to see. And from my understanding, they're mostly covers. Yeah. But they're shot really well. Yeah, man. And it's just you and a microphone. And that. is my favorite Thomas Edwards because I feel like that's the Thomas Edwards I knew first. Have those been, obviously, they're a lot of fun to do. But when you're posting that stuff, are you kind of like putting teasers out of like the vibe you're going for? Or is this just something for you personally? Yeah, I just, I just, oh, that's a great question. Because this, the first song that I'm dropping is, it's a, it's a very fun drinking song. And it's,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm talking half the time in the song. You know, for my sanity, you know, after I'm coming out of the gates in this major record label deal with this song where I'm talking half the time, right? The same guy that signed me at Warner signed Sam Hunt at Universal. I love Sam Hunt. Yeah. She also signed Casey Musgraves.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Love Casey Musgraves. Who are also just the kind of the, her ideology of artists are kind of in my wheelhouse where it's just like we're country by nature, but not by the business denomination of country music. And I think that's In this world We're inundated with the same things And country music all the time
Starting point is 00:22:24 It's just like people ride the wave And here's another analogy, man It's a, you know In this town you can be a cruise ship Or you can be a little dingy boat You know there's a cruise ships Go out in the ocean They're massive and they break through the waves
Starting point is 00:22:38 And the result of that is behind them There's a clear path for many, many people And smaller boats can Can last in the waters behind a big yacht or a big huge cruise ship. It takes a long time to build a yacht at the port. It takes a long time to build a cruise ship. And sometimes when you're building it, you're like, man, I just want to get out in the water.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like, look at all these people. They're out there in the water 10 miles out. But if that big cruise ship that they're behind goes to pour ever, then they don't even know what the open waters feel like. And that's everything that you're doing in life. I mean, it's not even just music. It's like you have to realize that everybody has their cruise ship to build. And once you spend time doing that and it's ready to go out to the ocean, then you're You'll be successful on whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's the 10,000 hour thing, you know. So first big purchase, yacht. Yeah, dude. First big purchase, 365-day cruise on Royal Caribbean. I'll be behind you. Yeah, too. I'm making it so, like, inspirational, man. I'm also not really a serious guy, but, like, when I get a mic in my hand, I feel like I have
Starting point is 00:23:37 something to say to people, man. I can't. That's what it's for. Yeah. That's what it's for. This podcast is our dingy boat. Oh, yeah. It's right.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Sherman just whispered to me, can I ask him something? So I think he wants to ask a question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cut me off at any time because I was just run my mouth. No, you're not running around at all. You're the guess. Jerkin socks. Jerkin socks. When you first came in, you were talking a little bit about this, but with the new deal, did you feel like your paper airplanes were made with notebook paper and now you have
Starting point is 00:24:08 construction paper and like how does that now? It's running off. Change the energy, I guess, of like, your creative. process. Yeah, man. What I say all the time is I was creative broke for a long time. That's when you figure out if you're really creative.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's like that Toy Story 4 when they make that Forky or whatever that thing. Yeah, God, what a legend. Yeah, dude. He got his own spinoffs, dude. Yeah, he goes, am I trash? There's so many great existential moments of that. But I think that now it's just what it is is just exactly what you're saying, it just excites me even more
Starting point is 00:24:50 that I can go into the Warner Studios and just say, hey, I want to do some covers. I just went in there for two hours one day and had two videographers in there. That was their passion. I mean, I was talking to the guy that was the videographer and wasted 30 minutes of the, not waste, but this is just who I am.
Starting point is 00:25:06 But he's like, I used to be a wildlife photographer and I was like, dude, you ever seen Secret Life of Walter Middy? And he was like, and he was like, and dude, it's so good. And then we just talked about that forever because it's so good. But to your question, And the, yes, it just inspires me more. You know, at first I sought the validation.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I thought the validation was going to make the paper better. You know, but really it was just the tools and the abilities that it could further my ability to be creative. They got me excited. The fact that there's a little nice studio that has a wonderful mic that I can just go in there. And I literally just was, I just had a guitar and a piano and I was just like running through songs that I could play. And it was just fun, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:42 And then I could just leave that. And then a week later, get a Google Drive link. Like, I'm so grateful for that. after years of propping my phone up and, you know, it's filming grainy. Oh, you know how it is, man. It's just, it's just inspiring now. It lights another fire in you and to make more music. And it's been awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Sick. That's great. You're deserving of it. It's cool to see it, dude. I appreciate it, man. I don't deserve nothing, man. I'm just here for a good time, make people feel good, man. I think that's the, that's what keeps me afloat, man.
Starting point is 00:26:15 That's what keeps my, keeps the, you. ship on the water. Yeah. Changing gears a little bit. You bring up a Secret Life of Walter Middy. Obviously, incredible film. And one of my favorite lines that whole movie is at the end
Starting point is 00:26:28 when they're up in like the Pakistani mountains. He goes, are you going to take the photo? And he goes, sometimes I don't. Beautiful things don't ask for attention. And that just kind of fires me up. But I know this.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Garrett knows this. We're big movie guys here. Oh, yeah. And this is my least favorite question of all time. But what's your favorite movie? Who, Jack knows this well. I'm the biggest movie critic.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I think we lack critics in art now because everyone has a voice and everyone needs to shut up most of the time. Now your phones are too cheap. Yeah, it's right, man. We're just boring as a whole episode. Yeah, I'm telling you, man. Like, you know, in the 90s, you could live in a fucking Manhattan and just be a snobby movie critic and have a nice little apartment. And that'd be your job. But the internet came along.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And now we devalue those opinions. Well, and I think that's just my soapbox about that. My favorite movie is Soul, Pixar movie. Dude. It's just pound for pound, man. Quiet, Traynor does the soundtrack. Quiet coyote.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah, quiet, quiet coyote. I have not. Jared, have you seen that movie? That's okay. If you haven't seen that movie. If you're looking for something, go watch. Yeah, dude, it's one of those that's, and my second one's probably out of that wheelhouse is parasite.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I still need to watch that. The movie in Korean Yeah, that movie I won so many awards. That movie is wild. The script is great. I don't even feel like I'm reading subtitles in it though.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It's shot so well. There's so much good. The coolest thing about that movie Parasite is every part that there's a person that has an economic status higher than another person, they are physically higher than the other person is in the shot in the movie.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Every time. You're in it. Dude, sorry, back to Seoul. I love souls, but I think they'd left so much meat on the bone. I mean, what do you mean? Like, it was just the climax of the movie didn't feel as hot. I know, but like, I don't, there wasn't, like, what was your favorite bar from the movie that you're like? There wasn't a bar.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It was the moment of. The story about the fish. That's a great one, yeah. The big fish swims up to a little fish and says, I'm looking for the ocean. And he goes, the ocean. That's my favorite one. He said, this is water. I feel like in Kung Fu Panda
Starting point is 00:28:48 I think that's kind of the moral The whole movie Like there isn't this That movie Soul is incredibly existentialist It is it's about how existing Isn't this Pump and circumstance
Starting point is 00:29:00 Huge fanfare Like at the end of Star Wars When the Ewaks celebrate You know like that Like that doesn't exist You know And I think that's the whole point of like The spark isn't a thing
Starting point is 00:29:09 That you get in soul It's just being aware Of the life that you're living And he goes through that the end scene of soul when he places all the objects on the piano and plays that outro piano music and then it just zooms out from the piano to the New York City skyscape to America to the earth you know like it's just it wasn't even the line that's not it wasn't a line that did it was that moment of just kind of like like like the artist that movie
Starting point is 00:29:36 50 times just go this is a movie for kids like what you know what I'm saying like it's just like this is a I would love to watch it through kids eyes yeah yeah that's a great thing thing about my teacher says that in that line before it's like we are you know it's like we are the collective energy of all that exists yeah quite cody you know it's great man have you seen mickey 17 no it's the director that did parasite it just
Starting point is 00:30:05 came out but it's an english film uh so robert patinson robert patinson it was really really good and watch it's it's got some deep tropes to it you would like Oh, yeah, dude. I love one that's, and that's why I was to bring back that critic thing. Critics, in a movie critic world that's, like, healthy, critics would help the average watcher or listener understand that after the first watch. Instead of asking a watch, someone say, well, you've got to go watch it three times. Like, that's, what an irresponsible ask. Times valuable, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, 100%. If someone says, if someone says, you got to go see a movie and they say, I saw that, I didn't get. and the response is you've got to go watch it again. You failed your job. Either the movie guy failed or you're too dumb to watch this movie. You know, like, it's just, you can go watch one of the Marvel movies. Damn. Chill in the Marvel movies.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You don't like the Marvel movies? Hell no. To play like Devil's Advocate, what about like Inception and like Interstellar and like those movies that are like they're not in the same vein as like soul and stuff like that. but those movies you have to watch a couple times so know what's going on. Well, I mean, I think you do see.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I'm not even listening. I don't think you do need to Dude, Marvel movies are why they are casting Robert Downey Jr. in the same universe for a different character. I'm with you on that, but I mean, it's not a fall off, but there is a level of respect to everyone
Starting point is 00:31:36 should hold. Guardians of the Galaxy. Gardens of Galaxy is pretty good. I did me to take away from Mitch's when this goes back to Thomas being the ultimate critic. I hate it. I hate everything, usually. I have to put my own opinion on it. Like, I can't...
Starting point is 00:31:49 You can't let someone else make their own airplane. Like, in the world... Yeah, it's... Hell, yeah, man. I mean, I'm... But, like, if they were good... If they knew how to make paper airplanes, they wouldn't care what I said.
Starting point is 00:31:59 You know, they... There you go. There you go. The... But, I don't know, man. Inception interstellar. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I mean, I get that. Like, you know, like, there's... Like, I would like to meet the guy that got Fight Club the first time around, you know? Yeah. So, I understand. There are some... There are some million times
Starting point is 00:32:16 movies, you know I just check out. One of those that got me was that mother movie with Jennifer Lawrence. Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh, this is like the creation of the world,
Starting point is 00:32:26 you know? Like, I was like, damn, she's fucking crazy, you know? Like, no, this is a bigger meeting. She like came out and said,
Starting point is 00:32:33 I will never do anything like that. Yeah, dude, it kind of messed me up a little bit, you know? How funny is that we can just like turn movies on our TV and just be like, fucked up by him forever?
Starting point is 00:32:42 two hours of our life just like oh damn well yeah and also we're just in and dated with so much new shit this day you have to have discretion and have an opinion otherwise you're just going to get suckered into whatever marketing campaigns pushing something down your throat like did you see that new series on Apple TV yeah another one came out last week
Starting point is 00:33:01 and then the one before that the one came out I give it like a eight month yeah I give it like a nine month buffer and if people still talk about it nine months later then I will start it I love that rule. I love that rule. Did you watch Severance?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, I watched the first season Severance. I liked it. You haven't watched second. Oh, you should watch season two? I haven't watched a lot of TV lately, man. You've been busy. Speaking of being busy. I have been busy.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You've recently had some, I'm going to take it back to music. Yeah, but you've recently had a couple of live shows like you did the Key West, Songwriter Fest. This is your third year? Yeah, that's your third year. Third year I played the big stage there for like, we did an acoustic set for like 7,000, dude. Videos looked awesome. Yeah, it looked awesome.
Starting point is 00:33:41 We played all originals too, and that's usually like taboo in that environment. But like Key West Songwriter Fest, the people that are there is, it's the best fans because they're there for a songwriting fest. It's not like, you know, they're sitting there listening to the words. You know, usually people would just get drunk at festivals, you know, and have a good time. But then we played Tortuga. We played Carolina Country Music Festival last week. Is Tortuga where you wore the Kenny Powers?
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, that was Carolina Country. Because it was Myrtle Beach, dude. It was, right. That was a perfect play. Yeah, it was, people were screaming, screaming Kenny Powers lines at me. I had to, like, keep composure while I was singing.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And it rained, it poor rain the whole day, like, and the festival was delayed. But, like, we just, like, we just, like, sat on the stage, and we're just, like, waiting. It's like, it's, like, horses in a corral for, like, the lightning delays to stop, and people came in,
Starting point is 00:34:36 and we started playing there, and then we played, like, 30 seconds of a song, We're getting rocking. And of course, I'm a new guy. So I'm on the, I'm on the B stage. And then Colt Ford is across this huge park. And he starts and the stage guy comes on and goes, we got to stop. Cold Ford's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So then we just stopped. And then we just waited. And then we just started again. But it was just funny because there's two stages and they're so far away from each other because you can't hear each other. But then as soon as we started, I was just screaming, we're over here. Come back. We're over here.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Because it was such a weird day because it was rained out all day. But yeah, we've been playing shows, man. You know, I got a band of four guys, and two of them are from East Tennessee. And we're playing Sunday. We leave for Wildwood Country Festival in New Jersey. Oh, that'll be said. I've been to that one before. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Oh, yeah. Is that the one on the beach? Yeah. So it's funny, I've only played festivals on the beach. Keep it that way. That way. Keep it that way. What are those nerves like?
Starting point is 00:35:35 Like, you know, you do a lot of, I mean, you started doing a music. music and putting it on the internet, COVID-ish. Yeah. And then, you know, you're in the studio and then you're getting in front of these large crowds with a band. Are there times when you're like, oh, shit, oh, shit, or you like, this is awesome. It's awesome. Like, and that's what I, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It's the icing on the cake for everything that I've worked for. You know, like, it's the opposite of what you would think about nerves. Like, I get nerves sitting around here not playing music. You know, like, if I'm sitting in my house and just like, idly sitting around, I'm like, what's going on? You know, and it's causal how I grew up. Like, if there's anything, there's at my house right now, if my mom and dad are there, someone is playing music. My dad's playing fiddle or, dude, like the other day, like, I grew up.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra. special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it
Starting point is 00:36:48 and... Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 00:37:04 people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up was a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We don't care where you hear it. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad. But secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate. that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man.
Starting point is 00:38:07 This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever, because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I grew up with that. The other day my dad sent me this like, here's your grandma singing in her band in high school, and I'll send you guys this song. It's so beautiful. It's like 60s.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Just like shit like that. It's like I grew up around like that, like where music was just played all the time, no matter what. what it was and I never played less music than when I came here to Nashville. You know, like I spent, you know, of course that's part of it. You know, especially at the beginning is, you know, taking the approach that I'm doing, you know, there's a lot of ways to skin the cat of music world. Like you can be, you can stand in a forest with an SM7 microphone and sing a bunch and be on the presidential debate in two weeks. Or yeah, or I mean, that's one way to skin the cat or you can or you can come here. You write the
Starting point is 00:39:12 songs and you network with this town. That's what I, love about this town is there's a thousand people here that are absolutely phenomenal songwriters there's songs that will never be heard that you only can hear just through being in this city and that's kind of my approach to like you know of being here is like just I get to wake up and go write songs of these people that I'd never met and you know it's like you I never look people up but like now I'm to the point where like I walk out of there and it's like oh this guy wrote live like you were dying yeah right this guy's shaped my childhood that actually Right.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It's like, you just think about all those songs, man. And that's just kind of like the little race you're stretching for is trying to get one of those. But yeah, playing shows has been awesome, man. It's the icing on the cake, man. That's kind of what I want to do is hang my hat on that because longevity and music comes from playing live shows. And right now, the public view of what success is in music is so skewed. You know, and it's people that just have routine shows, people that are playing. and growing a fan base and showing up for the fan base
Starting point is 00:40:17 and delivering their songs. You know, that's the ones that grow and over time grow. And that's the approach that I'm taking is we don't want to gas fire, man. We just want to be one percent better, man, you know, and that's what we're trying to do, playing great shows.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Dude, I feel like the dream show at some point has to be you bring your mom and dad up. Oh, absolutely, dude. Also, I just put them on the record because, so I just recorded,
Starting point is 00:40:39 yeah, I just recorded five songs with Warner and with Dave Cohen producing. We went to Blackbird Studios, Studio D where one of the most legendary places in music. And, you know, I had some of the best players on there, too, man. But I just, my parents have such a pure relationship with music that they don't even care about anyone knowing that they play music. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And I just kind of took that on myself to be like, you know what? I care. So I got them to come down here and I got my mom to sing Harmony background vocals on one of my records. That way she can be in this fancy official Warner Music Day. database as a background singer because I mean just giving back to the people that taught me everything I knew about music and we're going to get my dad down here to do some fiddle passes on some stuff too but but yeah man they're going to be up there eventually probably way sooner than I should honestly I mean my mom sang with me that night at Acme yeah yeah that was yeah that was cool
Starting point is 00:41:32 changing gears a little wait you have a question of music yeah yeah go ahead um you mentioned like working here in Nashville and like obviously everybody knows this is like the country music capital of whatever like I I'm so curious yeah oh the world ladies and I'm so curious to hear so curious to hear like because I follow like these like a couple people that are local to hear that are just like on social media that have big social media filings but you don't really see them like how what that world is like as an up-and-comer with other up-and-comers coming as well as it like a doggy dog world are you like I'm trying to like scratch your back you scratch mine kind of yeah I think and that's how good the and I
Starting point is 00:42:13 just learned through great influences that the people that last in this business are good people. Like, it's just like that you get weeded out so quickly that the era of hard to deal with rock star is over with the overexposure of the internet. Like, it's all about treating people, right? And, but no, there's no, you know, I think for people that are insecure in their artistry, there's a lot of looking left and right and seeing what's going on. But I don't really care what anyone else does. If they're successful, if they're happy for them.
Starting point is 00:42:43 a hard world to be successful in there's there and also there is no finite pieces of cake to be eaten everyone can get fed like it's it's just all about differentiating yourself and and and i love cheering people on man like a couple of my close buddies dalton davis and j kess you know we all met each oh they're the dogs man uh dalton just signed a record deal too the other day and a big one he's been putting out some awesome stuff yeah yeah man yeah shout to dalton and j kess too he's one of the most He's from one of the most iconic gospel families, has one of the most pure voices. And all souls.
Starting point is 00:43:17 His relationship with music is like that's, if you want to know what's going to take an artist a long way, independent of me, it's just figure out why they like music, and that'll just tell you how long they're going to be able to play music. A lot of this problem is now is we used to make talented people famous in music. It would be a guy, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:34 from the back of the day, like a guy would come to the record label, knock on the door and say, I got a bunch of tapes. Believe in me. you know, come on, listen, listen to these. They're great. I got a vision.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And, you know, flash forward to now, we try to make famous people talented. We try to get people that already have a preexisting following for whatever reason. It doesn't matter. And then we put a square peg around a hole and put music in these people's hands. And then they fizzle out because their relationship with music is not genuine, you know. And that's, but yeah, just it's never comparison. I just like cheering everybody on.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I think, I think there's different ways to do it in this. business and everyone can have success and in whatever way they want. There's got to be more of that in the music world. Before you, this isn't a question. This is just for the bus and fans out there because we have a lot of the tier ones. I wish I would have set it off the top. Thomas is the voice on the S&P 500 intro.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh, yeah. Which is, so that, that's how Thomas fits into the bus and lore outside of being Jack and Garrett's longtime friends, but. Yeah. Dude, that's crazy. I forgot about that. I got about that too. Dude.
Starting point is 00:44:40 The funny thing is, dude, like, it's, I've been in here over the years and every single, it's just so sick to see, it's just so sick to see the phases of this place, dude. Like, even when I was in here, like, a month and a half ago, like, none of this renovation stuff was going. Well, dude, I think it's cool. They, y'all's whole friend group, it's like a couple years ago, I guess, when, when Josh Dobbs went down there. Obviously, Josh, NFL quarterback, he's making vlogs down at your, your show. your music career is taking off. Jack is doing his thing in this world.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Gary's doing his thing in this space. And it's like, but you all started, you know, as just kind of in the beginning of. Yeah, we're just delusional in the kitchen saying, we want to do something different. It's 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:45:21 We're just like, you know what, man, I can't do this anymore. And then big Chevy's coming up next. Yeah, it's right, dude. We're like, we're just 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And we're just like, you know what? We're quitting this week. Yeah, we're doing what we want. And then Tuesday rolls around. Back to the mines. Back to the coal.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Back to the coal. Well, bringing up Josh Dobbs, yeah, because Tom also has made an appearance on bus with the boys when Josh Jobs came on. Tom came to the back. And who else was it? Was it Josh Malone? Yeah. That was a funny day. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:45:49 But just I want, these are my favorite stories about your football career in Tennessee because you mentioned how like you didn't play a ton. But there was a time. I want this story too. There was a time when you got called up to play versus Kentucky. I like you to just walk all the viewers through exactly what happened from start to finish. let's say it's Friday afternoon and go. So the biggest thing about college football that you don't realize is like the people that aren't the starters
Starting point is 00:46:16 or like the fringe guys before the night of the game, you just kind of meet the team on Saturday at the game. So like it's one of the most like walk of shames ever. It's like the wall walk starts and you're just like walking in. Like you like merge into the ballwalk. You're just kidding there. So yeah, it's like Friday night before the Kentucky game. I'm not traveling with the team.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And two years of my career, I was a second string, like, contributor. You know, I downplay that. Like, I was traveling to away games. Like, if someone went hurt, it was got hurt, I win it. But that didn't happen often. I often just rode the bus and ate the steak and went home, you know. And it was a home game. We played Kentucky, man, and I had my ex-girlfriend at the time.
Starting point is 00:46:59 She had a sorority formal the night before. And we got absolutely plowed drunk, like thrown out of the – She fell down the stairs at this place. Right, she fell. Yeah. I did. Oh, God. She fell down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:47:18 But it was like a dislike, you know how it is like the sorority like world is like so cutthroat. They're like, they went to the council. They were like, you have committed public intoxication. You would be shamed. You know, like, there's. But like, it was just like the talk of the sorority too. Like, so that's, and I was, you know, if I'm an athlete. I'm a little more sure foot.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I probably I probably would have fallen down the stairs I was that drunk too And then I woke up you know we're up all night you know got up you got to bed For five in the morning we're in college you know and with the game is at like two or three p.m. So we got to be at the ballwalk at like 10.30 So I wake up in my house and I am so hungover dude and I'm just like in a in an absolute pit like I I have to wear a suit for the ballwalk. It's still crumbled up in a ball in my travel bag just in the corner of my room I throw it on, wrinkles and all, get chastised for it later, and then grab a can of Coke and two strawberry pop darts out of my house and then just go to the, go park my car and they just merge into the ballwalk, thinking that I was just going to not play the whole day, you know, just having a good time. In that like fugue hungover state where everything is like funny, I'm like, oh, this is hilarious, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:30 So then flash forward to the game, dude, I was smoking those snacks in there, dude, I was eating like rice crispy. treats too like as soon as I got to the thing you know it's just like it was just it was not preparing myself and that we start beating the shit out of Kentucky and the second half comes around and like the starters do one drive and then I out of nowhere I hear coach mahoney saying Thomas Edwards where are you at and I strap up and I play the rest of the game and do you know who I was blocking and you know what play we just love to run a counter and I was was the right guard. And you can guess who the opposite defensive end was.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Bud DePri. And they're playing pissed off. They're down, dude. And dude, the funniest thing is my roommate now. One of our best friends, Jack Jones,
Starting point is 00:49:22 he was playing right tackle. And Jack's job the whole time was due to a seal and hinge, which is where you just take one step down and you just open your hips up 90 degrees and make sure nobody comes. You know, it's one of the best roles on the line when you get that job.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But every time we encounter three plays in a row and I was I was dying and the every time I get back to the huddle Jack just made it worse dude he was just cracking up laughing at me because he knew everything you knew what I was doing that I was the funniest thing I was like I was like boasting to my teammates I was like yeah I went out drunk last night you know it's just like but honestly I played well I remember I remember I remember like in the Monday team meeting they had like the little highlights of like plays of the game and when it's a game like that the majority the highlights are just like backup highlights
Starting point is 00:50:10 morale boosters you're like we love see your effort here you know I had one of those on that on that highlight go dude but Bud Dupree that is as the games going on and y'all are starting to pull away is it registering it all in your head you might go in or you're just fully enjoying it like fully enjoy
Starting point is 00:50:26 because at this point you have the shoulder pads on I'm like dude this game rules we're up on boarded helmet on the bitch I was I was civilian level stretched to go play like like hadn't warmed up since I half-assed did the warm-up at the beginning of the game an hour and a half earlier.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Like no little little leg kicks on the sideline. I just ran in. And there's so many times like that. Another time we play Kentucky away and like we were winning again and then we always beat Kentucky. The little brother. We're winning by a lot and our O-line coach says, all right, these are the next five O-Leymen that are going in. Names five people. I'm not one of them.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So I'm like, all right, sweet, bet, you know. Perfect. Like, free. Crogerfield's a nice time. It's a nice time of year, you know. Just watch some football, you know. See if my buddies can get it done, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So then they're in the huddle. They're about to go out on the field. And then all of a sudden I hear Coach Jones going, Thomas Edwards, Thomas Edwards. And just screaming, dude, it's silent in there. Like, people in the crowd are like, what's going on? Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:51:31 He's like, he must be really needed at this game. And he just looks at me, grabs by helmet, and he goes, do you? even want to fucking play? Do you even want to play? Even after the O-line coach deliberately five minutes prior to that was like, here are the five people that are going in.
Starting point is 00:51:46 But it's just so funny, man. It's never like when you go in when you're winning a lot in a game, it's never, you're never prepared to go. Even if you think you are, because you're standing around. It's right. It's one of my favorite stories. Just off a can of Coca-Cola and two Pop-Tarts.
Starting point is 00:52:03 A couple of baseball. A billion level stress. Yeah, it's right. we're lifting the veil here on the back of the bus heck yeah dude well I guess now that we're talking some snacks unless you have another football question because I want to start a new segment
Starting point is 00:52:18 we did it we won't say the guest because we have someone next week as well now but Thomas I know you're a sandwich connoisseur I would like you to describe your perfect sandwich let's just get a really two second moment of silence for how great sandwiches are Take that hat off. Also, I did see your post.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I did see your post. Yeah, so feel free to talk about that if you want. Yeah, man, I think sandwiches, man, I think they're the most important part of American culture. Really, the worldwide culture, I think, you know, I just, I'm not well versed. The worldwide sandwich impact, it's not an issue I'm willing to lend my voice to. But here locally in America. I love a good sandwich, man. I think they're situational, though, man.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I think the cool thing is, though, they're so interchangeable. every element of them can be replaced and removed. It's like a, what's it called? It's like a Lego set. You know, that's the wrong analogy I was looking for. But, like, you know, you buy the Millennium Falcon Lego set. You can rearrange it and make it look like something else. That's what a sandwich is.
Starting point is 00:53:24 You know, like, if you're, like, there's different ways to eat sandwiches and places to eat sandwiches. I had a, I had a pub sub yesterday. I get one a week. I usually get the special. But, I mean, I just think it's just a great, especially like the, to me, it's all about the experience. I love going to talk to the person that's, slicing open the bread. I get to look at the meat selection and go,
Starting point is 00:53:43 it looks like you guys just cut that today. Let's put that on there. And then the cheese, you know, all the way down. And in Publix really gets that done for me, you know, in the sandwich world. But I just think there are unsung heroes, man. I mean, everything's a sandwich. That whole debate. Like, it's just a deconstructed sandwich.
Starting point is 00:53:59 We, I think, I don't like how people to treat them as a lunch item. I think that's slanderous for the value they provide. But I mean, there's, I could talk forever about them. I mean, the white bread sandwich on the beach, you know, the, y'all, y'all all did the collective, like we're at a church. Yeah, it's right. But yeah, that's a situational sandwich. But if I'm in a, if I'm in a bodega in New York, like I'm getting a different sandwich there, man. Like, the sandwich is less about the food and it's more about glorifying.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our. own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:54:56 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 00:55:21 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree.
Starting point is 00:55:46 At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets.
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Starting point is 00:56:46 Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives,
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Starting point is 00:57:24 Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. the situation that you're in. It's like the movie sold. It's honestly, it's like a paper airplane.
Starting point is 00:57:51 It's 25 seconds. It's an art form, man. I love sandwiches, man. I'll talk forever about them. I go to Publix once a week. Last night I went to Publix and the, I was, my heart was ripped out from underneath me because they made the special a rap. And the specials don't need to be a rap.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I mean, like, the fact that it's like, advertises $5. It would have them to the options. Yeah. I mean, there used to be two specials. But also, they kind of go crazy with, like, they've been doing like these cranberry turkey sandwiches at Publix. That sounds fire, though. You're like, you're crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:58:24 It's like stuffing and... It's like your favorite sandwich. Yeah. Dude, they do it all year round. It's crazy as hell, dude. I love sandwiches, man. I think they don't get enough love. Can you name your favorite sandwich spot in Nashville and or a few?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Outside of Publix. Yeah. Oh, I mean, like I, said man i think it's all i eat like a dog man i stall for fuel and i get pub chicken chicken dinner pubs up but i like uh you introduce me to the fat belly pretzel place special place vibes all time in there too speaking of a situation it's like when you go in there you're not just buying a sandwich it's an experience in there yeah it's like the staff is incredible yeah they they ask your name and they're like how you've been doing man i'm like how much time you got
Starting point is 00:59:09 dude i got so much shit to get off my chest you know but they'll kick you out after a while no i i go in there like their muffleda it's really good they also have a good uh also the rachel green from bills is great yeah you know we finally formalized the placing chips of onto the sandwich as a menu item you know i think that was a huge step for us as people what about the uh little hats truffling ham i haven't i've never been to little hats oh i could see little hats being somewhere Thomas just publicly slander just because the public loves it. I also have a huge problem with restaurants in Nashville
Starting point is 00:59:46 that open up 200 person dining halls and have six parking spots. I refuse to go there. I mean, that's like part of the experience. We're not in Manhattan. We open restaurants in here like it's the big apple. You know, but like people are driving to get there, you know. And if you take a scooter, you're going to get hit by somebody.
Starting point is 01:00:08 That's too soon. We were literally at a Federale's bar like a month ago. And Tom drives there and he goes, there's no fucking parking. I'm driving home. I did that. I did that. It is awesome.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm about that action. I did that same thing. I'm about that, dude. I mean, like, what do you mean? There's no parking here. This is,
Starting point is 01:00:27 I could have a hundred people in here. You know? There's parking the, the, what, paid $20 to a guy that. Brooke lives there. I park there all the time and don't have to.
Starting point is 01:00:36 See, but like that's tribal knowledge. We shouldn't have to operate like that. that is fair what's your death row sandwich like sandwich to save the world you gotta make it
Starting point is 01:00:50 yes well sandwiches aren't saving if aliens came down and you had one sandwich to save the world quote graphic what if it could though
Starting point is 01:00:58 what if you could give a sandwich to the fucking president of Iran right now and it would stop and be a fucking ceasefire I wouldn't do that because sandwiches are made for that Jack
Starting point is 01:01:06 It's a bad idea. Yeah, that's probably not what we need to do here. Death Row sandwich. I'm definitely going to go, I'm going to get the ladies at work at the publics in East Nashville. I love them so much. They take their job so seriously. They ask me how I'm doing all the time. They're heavy-handed on their pores of ranch and mayonnaise and spicy mustard and every occasioner and out of the gourmet Dijunais.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I would get them to prepare it. And I would ask them to bring the little. heater that they use there because I swear that one just gets it right and if the jail would allow these three lovely women to come in I would go with that public sandwich just because not necessarily the sandwich
Starting point is 01:01:49 it's just about the memories I have with those people as they made it. Wait what's on it? It's irrelevant to me. I mean I love that. I am the same. It's kind of like paper airplane. I'll probably get a Bors head of
Starting point is 01:02:06 Italian. Or Borset Ultimate, sorry, because I like the roast beef in there, too. And then I'm throwing Chipoli Gouda cheese. If it's freshly cut, I can tell just by how it's, how it looks. I ask him to. How it's resting. Yeah, I'd say, hold one slice up for me, please. You got to notice the bend.
Starting point is 01:02:24 That's how long it's been cut. If it's floppy, it's good. Then I'm going, so I'm going ultimate Chipotle Gouda cheese. Then I'm going to get it toasted. Actually, mayonnaise and spicy mustard comes first on the sandwich. I pre-toast. I used to be a hater on that. But it makes a difference.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Then I throw it in the toaster. Then I'll go on spinach, lettuce, two tomato slices, garlic pickles, French onion straws, and a little dash, salt pepper and oregano, and then some deli dressing. Nice. But that's, you know, that's if I had to pick. It's not really about that for me. Twist my arm. God, God forbid. After all this talk, I feel like it would be essential as a bonus intern.
Starting point is 01:03:06 project if we had them go get the Thomas over. Yes. Or go with Thomas. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's right. And it for sure, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And today it's Wednesday. They just, I can't date the episode. Sorry, bad for them. It comes up tomorrow. It's Thursday. It's a day of the week.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And the specials reset today. So we can, we can go check. We can check up they righted their wrongs about putting a rap as the special. Yeah. Where did they do? Are you hell bent on going to the one in East or would you go to the one on eighth?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Uh, no. You got to go to the one at east. I went to one in Brentwood and there's just high school kids working there and they don't give a shit about you or your sandwich They're just trying to get out of there And Thomas just had a problem with driving places He's going to go across the street In east
Starting point is 01:03:47 Just imagine a 16 year old Hey can you hold up the Guta Why? That's suss bro Yeah That was in the chat for this guy Yeah What is this guy think?
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah I tried to get a pub some And bring when he got clowned by chat Damn. Dude, that's funny. All right, we've gone for 55 minutes so far. Do we need to talk about the reason Thomas is here? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. I'm here because I'm beginning the journey of releasing music with my record deal. It's starting next month, man. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're starting with a song called Drunk Enough.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's such a fun song, dude. I'm talking half the song. It reminds me like a Shell Silverstein poem. just like poorly written because I wrote it. You know, but, you know, I wanted to capture something that captured my personality, man. I think I've written a lot of songs that are, you know, good songs, but it's just like, when you push the ship off the shore, you want to people to know what they're getting into. So I wanted to make sure that I had, you know, some things that highlight my voice and things that highlight my personality and just in and welcome people to the world of Thomas that releases music.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Because it's been, you know, the two year, a year and a half, two years since I've released. release something and now it's you know the funny thing I said this the other day I was like I'm so I'm the most excited I ever been to release music and I said uh like you know when we released the last things I had no clue what was going on now I still have no clue what was going on but I'm okay with it you know like and I think that's that's the only thing it's going to be and that's that's kind of true for everything man let it fly throw the paper airplane man and I think that's one of the regrets that I already have in my life is I should have been letting them fly earlier you I made a bunch of paper airplanes and sat him in my closet.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And I realized I didn't even throw them because I didn't even care that much. You got to throw them. And this is where I'm starting to throw them. So the drunk enough is just a fun song about a, it's really about a girl, man. It's a personal story, an actual story in my life. But you have to listen to the song, man. It's got some layers to it, man. Maybe you'll have to listen to it five times.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Hopefully, they do. Hopefully they do listen to it more than one. I'm the king of the callback, man. I understand comedy. I get it. I get it, y'all. But yeah, it comes out next month, and then we're going to start to release. We just cut some more songs after that.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So after that one, we're going to be releasing, and then going back in to cut a whole record, probably to get it out there sometime in the future. I don't know when that timetable is, probably this year sometime. But we're off to the races, man. They gave me the keys, and they're letting me drive the ship, and we're making a lot of great music and treating people right.
Starting point is 01:06:34 along the way and that's where we plan on doing the whole time and I'm stoked to stoked to share with the world so people don't think I'm crazy and lying anymore you know let me drive the boat I know you I know you got a bunch of dates lined up here in the future outside of Nashville is there any place in Nashville you know in the next six months or so any you know tier ones or locked down oh yeah home address back of the bus viewing party yeah absolutely dude I think uh you know where do you live with where do I live yeah exact address My address is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. I'm the next president.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I need to stop these politically charged statements. I wouldn't happen by the president. No, I live in East Nashville, though, man. I've been there for a couple years, my four or five years. Been renting just burning money. It's fun, man. It's like the episode of SpongeBob to make the pretty patties. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Mr. Crabs is like, what are you guys doing with all the money? And he goes, well, at first we tried burying it. Then we tried burning it. And then we just had too much. So we just started giving it away, you know? You don't even know why I brought that up, but I live in East Nashville. Is there a place, is there a time where we can come catch you at a show? Not around here as of now, but probably as this first song comes out late July, I'll do a showcase.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Yeah. To kind of get those, the guys that have been playing with me in the band to do a show here. And then that, but that'll probably be into the summer, I would think. Cool. We'll definitely, we'll post on the, the social pages, so all 900 of our followers. Let's go. And then we'll obviously collab on the bus and account. Get that 500,000 plus audience.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah. But yeah, we're going to get everyone, everyone here on the back of the bus, as long as everyone's in town. We're going to show out. Oh, no. That's the interns. They won't be invited to the show. Yeah, that's right. You heard that.
Starting point is 01:08:24 But, dude, no. Seriously, so fucking awesome. Just like to know you's a best friend and like see all your success and take. get you to come on to like our like little funny show that we started. And I feel like we're starting to get a groove too. Like yeah, specifically in this show, which is fun.
Starting point is 01:08:39 And this episode, I feel like is a lot of confidence for everyone where it's like we've just kind of bouncing off. Coop's been talking the whole time. I will say I've been in, I've been in spectator mode for this whole day, but this has been an awesome interview. Like,
Starting point is 01:08:51 Cooper's not talking for another episode. I know. One day. One day. Every bar you had, Coup would just go. I just, I just,
Starting point is 01:08:59 I just look good right of. I was fired up the whole time. Yeah, man. I love being here, man. It's awesome to see y'all. Y'all's journey, man. I've told you two years drunk in a kitchen, like when are you going to get on the other side of the camera, dude?
Starting point is 01:09:13 Like, you're too funny to not let people know that you're funny, man. And both of y'all, I mean, I think it also is 10,000 hours, though. Like, think about where you are now to start this show versus where if you started it four years ago. Oh, my God. Oh, like, you guys, like, know when things screw up. turf in here, man. Yeah, come on, dude. We understand the, we understand the health implications of standing on hard concrete.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Would you, you probably don't want to play your new song. Wait until that release is. Would you want to play one song for the audience? Sure. Hey, interns! Guitar's down. Yeah, we're going to bring it up because we. Let's get that tape job too.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah, I got you. While he's tuning the guitar, we have an intro for Bustin with the boys. We need an intro for this show, back of the bus. Oh, honestly. I'm not saying that, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was getting at. They're pretty patties.
Starting point is 01:10:14 It could literally be 15-second jingle. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, that was one of the best callbacks. Let me do some source. I got to see what you guys are about a little better. I mean, I know what you're about. You know what I'm saying? Your presence.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yeah, you are good. song. Welcome to the bag of the bus, I wrote this song a couple weeks ago. It's, this is so awesome. This is awesome. This is going to be an awesome clip of us like this.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I wrote the song a couple weeks ago, my buddy Bob DePiro and Ryan. A lot of people, when you get to a certain point of music, they just try to ask you to change everything that got you there. And that's what I'm saying about being different, you know? So we wrote a song about people trying to, to change me even though it's worked the shit that I've been doing you know I don't know
Starting point is 01:11:04 if we should have all the mics here I might not sound like yeah I mean should we maybe even turn down all the mics but let's just we'll just be quiet I can do that we'll just be quiet Daming home mm-hmm ain't no changing me no more until I find change I was looking for don't matter what comes through that door No changing me no more I met a girl thought that she was golden Until she told me to fold the hand I was holding
Starting point is 01:12:05 Were the last words that were spoken to me Why should I fix what is not broken Ain't no changing me no more Till I find a change I was looking for Don't matter what comes through that door door, ain't no changing me no more. A music guy told me to change some stuff about me too. A big wig told me I could sing.
Starting point is 01:12:51 He said, first we gotta fix a couple things. My hair, my beard, I dress too weird. I need some showbiz clothes. And I said, sorry, buddy, that's not how this story goes. Ain't no changing me no more. me no more until I find a change I was looking for. Don't matter what comes through that door cause there ain't no changing me no more.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. That was awesome. That was awesome. That was really cool. These mics are not auto-tuned either. That was all real.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's right, dude. It's all auto-tuned. Everything is processed and fake. It's all air. Yeah. Edit when I start talking after. That was sick. That was awesome,
Starting point is 01:13:59 we were starting with our guests. They do our outro. So if you want to play a little lick and then be like, you know, sub to the channels, sub to whatever, yeah, just let them fly.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Thanks for coming on back of the bus. Hello, everyone. I'm Thomas Edwards. Guest today on the back of the bus, thank you all for joining us. Like the video. Subscribe to the channel. Love each other.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Tip your waitresses, shred the veal. Throw the paper airplane. Throw the paper airplane. Dude, thank you so much. Buy the Curse vote. Watch sold. Let's go. That was sick.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That was awesome. Awesome. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:14:47 We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know. Tired and sick.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to you.
Starting point is 01:15:32 He's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Most people out here think that taking care of one another is important. and most people would step up for a neighbor going through a tough time.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Most people around here help out friends and family when they need it. But the funny thing is, most of us won't look for help when we need it. Talk to someone if you're struggling with mental health. Because most people out here really care. Find more information at loveyourmindtay.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. Brought to you by the Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council. This is an IHeart podcast.
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