Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson Comes On The Bus For Episode 85
Episode Date: January 3, 2026Recorded Feb 10, 2021 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, we kick it back to Episode 85 of Bussin’ With The Boys, when The Boys welcomed Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson onto the bus for an absol...ute classic. To kick things off, Chad talked about what brought him to Nashville, Will revisited all the tweets he had sent Ocho over the years, and the boys looked back on some of Chad’s favorite trash talk moments from his NFL career. Chad then broke down how he played on “All-Madden” throughout his entire career, shared his thoughts on the top wide receivers in the league at the time, and even hinted that he might still have one NFL season left in him. The conversation also touched on his unconventional path to the league, including playing semi-pro soccer, before Professor Ocho took over and schooled the entire bus on how to properly handle a first date. To close things out, Chad addressed some early-career rumors, reflected on what it was like playing for the New England Patriots, and talked about a few media projects he was working on at the time. Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to Bustle with the Boys.
We're, yeah, we, that's, we're terrible at doing the intro part.
As always, you know, fucking subscribe, rate five stars.
We need you to buy the merch for the boys.
Keep those things going.
You guys are running the train.
Tier 1s are fucking taking them tier 2s, ripping them upstairs.
And then tier 3s are slowly chugging around the caboose, as you like to call it.
You're bringing them up.
You're helping us out.
And so that's always a big one.
big a big guest today huge maybe not the most biggest guests but one of the biggest personality
guests we've ever had um on the bus and and i'll tell you how it started from our eyes and i like
to hear from your from your perspective so chad johnson chad otucinco however you like to
know him one of the best football players receivers of all time was coming into nashville for the brown's
titans game obviously a huge titans fan um as we all are and um says what am i'm going to do in
Well, he came in with the COVID mask.
COVID's going down still, right?
We're still rolling down those trains.
So it's not a lot to do.
All right, you're not a drinker.
You're not going to go hit the bars like that.
You know what?
Do you like Johnny Cash?
Yeah, Johnny's a legend.
So Johnny's a legend.
I'm glad one of the same.
I've said here for three times already.
Okay, I'm sorry.
You can do it.
No, we let a fly, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Johnny Cash is a legend.
Country music, solid out there.
But at the end of the day, with the COVID stuff, this town is pretty much built on
alcohol and entertainment take the alcohol out boom now you've got 50% right so people start hitting you
up busting with the boys i start getting tagged and then wills will sends a little group text message
like with the big eyes hey chad's in town what if we got chad what if this happens what if that happens
so my fuck around i tweet a little something hey harass the guy all right make it a little more
difficult for him will ends up sending you just an eye little eye emoji right in the corner so i'm in
you send it back now bustle the boys is now i now i want to get in there too because we're all
chasing cloud at the end of the day right
You're the Cloud Train.
So I'm in it.
I'm in it to win it on that now.
You end up following Bustin with the Boys.
And now look at us.
Huh?
Who would have thought?
We're here.
Not me.
Hey, I have tweeted at Chad, and I know you've seen numerous times to get on Bustin with the Boys.
Are you saying that this, most recently, this is the only time you've seen me tweet for you to get on Bustin' with the boys?
It's hard to see because when it's repetitive over and over, I can see it.
Your little show.
more, stuff like that.
If you do it by yourself, then it gets flooded out with so many other people if I tweet something
out.
Yeah.
I knew it was going to happen when you said, what should I do in Tennessee?
And I knew, I knew our fan base.
We have a good fan base.
Because, again, they see me tweet at you.
We've been trying to get it going for a while.
And so I knew it was like, cancel Christmas.
We're going to get them on this bus.
Definitely.
And then I came in a day early.
I came in a day early because I haven't been in Nashville since.
I don't even know what year that was in the Titans.
I remember Pac-Man was here.
and Pac-Man had to cover me, whatever.
Whatever year that was, like, I'm going to come in a day early so I can see what
NASDA was all about.
I don't drink.
I say, I don't club.
Find a McDonald's and find a Starbucks.
And maybe one restaurant to go through the night.
And that's pretty much it.
I came in a day early.
As far as, I mean, what are you like?
It's a steakhouse guy.
I feel like everyone's like, I didn't find a restaurant.
Steakhouse is the end category.
You're in Cincinnati, so you know Jeff Rubies.
So.
Jeff Ruby does rip here.
It's been here for a few years now.
Is it Jeff Ruby's here?
Yeah, there's Jeff Ruby's here.
Yeah, it's a nice.
place in the back room there.
They got some good stakes, but there's some other spots too.
Bourbon steaks, a nice little deep piece.
No free shoutouts.
Kane Prime.
Guess what?
Bourbon steak.
You're hearing us shout you out right now?
You better come with a check next time.
We fucking mention your name.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not how this thing rolls.
Kane Prime.
We need a solid.
Kane Prime.
Bink.
Fucking checks need to roll in, boys.
All right.
We're helping you out.
But yeah, so tell us from your perspective,
obviously, you said there's a lot.
You get a lot of mentions.
And you tweet damn near every 15 minutes.
It's very impressive.
The shit you're putting on the,
on the old social media.
Content is great.
Content is great.
And it's solid.
But what made you think,
okay, bust what the boys
might be the right thing.
Did you look into us at all?
Bus what the boys might be the right thing.
That might be the right thing for us.
Obviously,
will.
I know of will.
Obviously,
so why not?
Especially with me being in a day early,
having nothing to do in the middle of today.
Why not?
I'm with the urban outfiters.
It got me outfit to wear today.
And here I am.
40 bucks later.
Why not?
Yeah, I love it.
You're very thrifty.
You're very frugal.
You're on record a lot,
talking about being frugal.
It's always been that way.
A lot of people, eh, they don't like it.
Yeah.
I think people seem to more be concerned with looking like they have it even when you don't.
Yeah.
Do you respect how frugal we are with this bus coming in?
I saw you poke your head in.
You weren't really sure coming in here.
She can go down.
You start, you pull in the back of where you pulled it.
I don't want people know where we are.
You pull into this.
This is a lot where things can go down in the back of a shed.
You know what I'm saying?
This is nice.
This is really nice.
I like it.
We actually two months ago had a group of homelessmen
break in and they just moved
the couches around, slept on the floor.
Turn this place into a soup kitchen.
Yeah, I promise. They had to file
a police report and everything.
You should have recorded that.
We didn't have, I mean, obviously,
if we were a song break in, we would probably say, hey, you can't
come here. But they slept. They didn't take
anything. And the only
thing they took is they took a box of merch. Like
that box of merch, they basically took clothes.
And if, honestly, if a homeless person
breaks in here, it doesn't take anything, it doesn't break anything.
Have a sleep. That doesn't
bother me at all. You know what I'm saying? Clean up
after yourself. This can be a night time,
daytime. This can be an Airbnb, I guess, you know,
for the homeless if they'd like to.
That's a good one. Whatever you want to have, man.
Is nothing really expensive in here?
Do we keep the cameras here or do the cameras leave?
The cameras were, hey, the cameras
were here. Yeah, the cameras
were here. So thank God. No, Daz's shaking
his head, no. The cameras leave every day.
So what was here? Do you want
there stuff here? That was important?
Oh, so they did break things.
Well, now I've rescinded my
invitation for them to do what they want to do.
So hold up.
You did say you said, I know of Will.
All right.
Of course.
How do you know of Will?
Hey, you hear that?
Hey, that's what.
Hey, Loki.
Hey, Loki.
I'm thinking the same thing too.
He says, of course.
Obviously, I know Will and I decided that I want to go in.
He did follow me a while back.
I don't know what from, but when I saw it that you know,
the boy site.
And I know, we'll get into your fandom in a second.
That's, that's a big, this is a big time thing.
Yeah.
I know Will.
Oh, shit.
I know.
That's the homie.
Oh, it's like that.
It is like that.
Well, this is kind of like you guys are doing this and I'm a guest now.
You guys know each other like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God damn.
Good for you guys.
I know you too.
Well, yeah, but we don't know each other like you guys obviously know each other.
It's Twitter world.
For me, the Twitter world and just the way I am with everybody, like, I don't have to
know you personally, but I fucking know you.
Like, I fucking love you.
I love you too.
I love you too.
I don't need to know you to love you.
Right.
Because when people hate you, do they actually hate, do they know you when they hate you?
No, exactly.
I fucking love you.
You are big on saying I love you a lot to the world.
And is that the whole idea of it is like...
It's always been my mantra.
It's always been my thing, especially with the way shit is now.
Yeah.
Even in games and clips and when the enemy in the Battle of War would be mad and talking
shit to me, my favorite line to piss everybody else was, dude, I fucking love you in the
middle of the game.
Yeah.
I have a similar line I like to say to people.
and I play football is I'll suck your dick.
I think that's usually, that's a line of mind.
That is.
I think with you,
there's a big homophobic feeling in the NFL.
And so when I,
when I tell another player,
I'll fucking suck your dick.
The game is now over for them, right?
The mental battle.
Yeah.
But it kind of goes into,
I'll love you.
That's right.
So we're kind of,
that gains me a mental age.
Right.
And sometimes the game of inches in NFL,
that's all we need.
Several inches.
Not several three to five.
But yes.
I know what you're saying.
I see where you're going.
But I love it.
There is a different kind of way because, you know, it's always kind of like the amount of times
I've been called the N-word, the amount of times you're like, you all, you fucking suck.
It's kind of like the same verbatim.
Over and over.
Guys, there's no creativity in the NFL when it comes to talking trash.
And if there's one thing that I've loved about watching your stuff is it's, it's original.
Authentic, yeah.
It's authentic.
Yeah.
And so that's been a thing since junior high.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love you.
passing just random people
Twitter every, every fucking morning.
Sometimes you never know what people are going through.
Obviously, there's only so much I can do as individual.
Right.
You know, so that message, I continuously do it just
7 wherever I'm at.
Yeah.
Outside of telling guys you love them, what are some of your more favorite
or some of your better lines you look back on and you're like,
that was a bang.
Child, of course.
Child, please.
Child, please.
Child, please.
Child please.
I love child, please.
The meaning from hard knocks.
And it meaning, based
on the delivery. The delivery is important.
It's a nice way of saying, fuck
you. Right. And you can use it in the workplace.
If your boss fishes you off, and if
your delivery is right and you say, man, child, please,
he will never know what you're talking about, but you're able
to get that shit off your chest. Right.
Without getting in trouble. Right. Right. I like that.
Yeah. Brable, that could be. I'd tell you what
Vrabel would definitely. He would need a few times, for sure.
And Brable would be like, what do you think you're Chad?
Yeah. You can barely say,
you can barely say yes, sir to him.
Like don't call me sir
Tell him the yes sir thing you did the Vrable
That fucking just really grinded his gears
Rable is great for if you
I know this is the bus
The Bus and the Boys thing's new to you
Rable is a huge fan of us
Huge fan of this bus
Right
Will's one of us
Gotta be his top three
I don't know
It's back and forth
I never know how to get a read on him
But I was
I was working the cards on scout team
And they held it up
And they were like
He was like hey
D dirty D like you know
Give a good look
Show a little speed ball ball
This and that
You know I like to have fun
Oh yeah
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Like, I'm going to, hey, guy, show speed.
Like, he's like, what, would you say?
And I'm just like, oh, I just said, yes, sir.
Yeah, I bet you fucking did.
I'm like, what?
That's literally all I said was yes, sir.
And then a couple weeks later, I'm preparing.
I'm on the defensive side.
I'm freaking doing this.
And he's coaching me up.
And I just nod, yes, sir, I got you.
Like, he thinks I'm being a jackass again like I was a couple weeks before.
And he's like, like, don't fucking call me, sir.
Stop saying yes, sir to me.
And I'm just like, oh, my God.
How do you even work around this?
Yeah, what am I supposed to do here?
I mean, unless you call him God.
I think that's like really the only thing he'll be okay with.
I'll tell him with child please next time.
You tell him what?
I, if Rable calls me out on the next team meeting I'm in,
child please.
Child please.
I'm down.
So what'd you say?
I said, I love you.
I don't fucking hit him with that too.
And I got a two-for right there in my back pocket.
That's a good mind fuck.
Because I feel like if you tell a head coach, you'll suck them on.
That part.
I think that one.
That's probably not it.
Right.
I'll do that.
I'll tell you what.
Do you always mean a shit talk or did that develop in the league?
I just, I needed that mental edge.
Right.
I needed that mental edge.
And the reason I talk shit throughout the week, obviously people consider it putting pressure on yourself.
Because obviously, once you talk and give the other team bulletin board material, you have no choice but to go out and perform.
Right.
Me, it kind of, it mind-fucked my opponent into, oh, shit.
You know, now I got to be on my, I got to be on my P's and Q's.
Right.
Just that nervousness, just that inch of you thinking is, that split second is all I need.
Has there ever been in time when you were like,
I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have
Have you ever mind fucked yourself?
I really got to fuck it.
I really got to put up 50.
I don't necessarily believe it.
That's a fucking difficult thing.
Think about this.
Remember when I had the list of DBEs
before the season started?
You know how hard that is?
I actually played the game of football in NFL
with the 1% that are the best in the world
on All Madden.
I played it in real life on All Madden
because I put a list of people
in my locker that I was facing
from week one to week 16, 17,
I forgot how many fucking weeks there.
I got CT.
Right.
And letting you know I'm going to beat you every down,
all four quarters,
and you're not going to stop me.
And all they had to do was stop me one time,
and you get a check.
That's it.
All they had to do is stop you one time,
and you gave them the win.
For the game.
Yeah, for that specific game.
Did anybody ever win?
I think that year, I think it was one,
one person.
But as far as completion and targets
and actually getting covered
and balls knocked down,
No.
Yeah, I remember that too.
He'd be in press conferences and he'd have his little list behind him in the locker.
I was all state in high school, receiver.
I could ball a little bit.
You know what I'm saying?
So when I'm watching Chad Ocho Cinco, that's who I am in the backyard.
You feel me?
No, yeah, 100%.
Hey, you know how you're like that uncle and you're like, your niece or your daughter brings home somebody?
And they, like, hey, you know, back in the day, I used to ball a little bit.
Yeah.
That's you right now.
Oh, that's me right now.
Right here.
Tell me what. I was solid.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And, well, we were thinking, I'm, or,
originally calling it
one of the early names of our band
before Jonas Brothers
was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing,
a bit for the podcast
for people could call in and say,
Hey Jonas.
And then I wrote down
on my little notepad,
Hey Jonas,
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Back in the day.
I'll tell you what, being a receiver, that's tough.
Being a corner's tough.
I mean, the whole thing's fucking hard.
The corner is the most, the hardest position.
Who's the best?
I agree with that.
Could you play corner, did you think?
Right now, probably.
I do that in the offseason with some of the today's players.
Right.
So when we train together for me to see what they want me to see, I actually play DB.
Who are these players?
Ireek, Antonio Brown, Julio, Ari Cooper.
So the best of the best.
Yeah.
It's fair.
You could have just say the best ones, and that would have categorized all of them.
That was fun.
But are you winning?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I win maybe 40% of the time.
And that's fucking great being that I'm not a fucking...
Hell yeah.
Yeah, you're playing one-on-one.
Now, is that 40% or is that like, hey, I probably...
That's a legit 40% because at times I know what's coming before it comes.
Right.
You can just tail.
Coming out the huddle.
Split, alignment.
You already know what route's coming.
So I'll just try to guess.
So you're a coin flip guy.
Yeah.
I like that.
How old do you, what's your age right now?
52.
You're what?
52 years old.
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
I was born to 68.
He's like 42.
I'm not.
I mean, we'll look it up right now.
It's all right.
Who doesn't even fucking know me?
Hey, I'll tell you what, they know what you're 78, 42 years old.
All right, you're 42 years old.
Listen, that's one strike, Chen.
All right, you've lied to us once on the bus already and we're 10 minutes into the
thing.
He said I'm 52.
When he said, two, I was fucking upset with myself.
Oh my, I'm 29.
This man.
You know what?
52 based on the wear and tear
I had to take throughout the years.
I feel 52 when I wake up every morning.
But you think you could still play?
You think you play one season?
Yeah, easily.
At a high level.
With the right preparation?
Yes, and the opportunity and the ball coming?
Easy.
Really?
Because teams put you in a position to be successful.
Right.
They put you if, I'm just saying, hypothetically.
Yeah, it would be easy.
My skill set hasn't gone anywhere.
Well, it could, I mean, you're 42.
Forty- About your speed.
You didn't go anywhere either.
It hasn't gone anywhere.
So you're saying you're as fast now.
You're the same speed now as you were back in your age.
Hell, I was just on the treadmill running 25 miles an hour, what, four months ago on Instagram.
25 mile an hour's D's.
That is kind of fast.
I mean, obviously the treadmill is making me go.
But the fact that my body can maintain that for over eight, nine seconds, that means I can fucking still go.
So why don't you?
Why don't I what?
Play.
Why?
Why would I want to play?
Because I played 13 years.
That's enough.
13 years is a long time.
That's a good amount.
How many pole balls you make?
Six.
That's, I mean, that's a Hall of Fame career.
You got nine between all of us on the bus.
Look at us, right?
Six, three.
Yeah.
Rolling, boys.
Where did you play?
Nebraska.
I played in Michigan.
Yeah.
Oh, what's up with your wool?
I tell you what?
Will caught me in a predicament the other day because he says,
what are you going to do?
Yeah, that was so funny.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm playing the political incorrect.
Like, oh, well, you know, they need to do this.
So, what do you think you should get rid of a hardball?
And I got, I'm like,
I didn't know what the fuck to say.
You think they should?
Yes.
Are you serious?
So when I got there in two.
It's hard by the reason though.
Or maybe they don't have the talent to succeed.
It's all right.
If it's, when I got there in 2009,
Rich Rodriguez was there.
And the whole time Rich Rodriguez is there,
all they wanted was Harbaugh.
And then Brady Hoke came in from San Diego State,
who's a Michigan guy for whatever.
He was a deep coordinator or whatever.
All they wanted while Brady Hook was there is Harbaugh.
now Harbaugh's there and so and I hate to do it and there's a there's a Michigan fan at the edge of their seat right now listen to me talk because they want me to say something nice I'm not going to because Mark Dantonio who is who was the head coach of Michigan State and that's going to hurt even worse he gets two and three star guys and while I was at Michigan they're playing for big big 10 championships they beat us three to four times like they fucking got it done now you can be a four star athlete anyone you can be a four star athlete anyone.
can be athletically gifted.
Right.
But if you,
if you're a sloppy
or you don't know
work ethic or you don't know
what to do,
then you're not going to develop
into Chad Johnson
and Wilcompton,
you're not going to develop
into the guy
that's going to be able
to make it
or have that great impact.
Now at Michigan,
you're sponsored by Jordan.
You have,
I mean,
it's,
you,
I would say we're running,
we're running away
from relevance,
but it's still a very relevant college.
It's like a five-star college.
It's a five-star college,
right?
Are you getting the recruits,
though?
I think you're getting,
you're getting better recruits
in Michigan State was when Mark Tantonio was there.
And my thought is, is Mark D'Antonio took and developed those guys.
Took a guy like Jack Conklin, who I played with last year.
He played for the Titans.
He was a first round pick.
He was a first round pick and left early.
That type of shit.
That's what I'm talking about.
I think if you're getting a four and five star guys, which Michigan does get,
then after that is development.
And you need to have kids excel and do better as you go.
And that's not happening at Michigan.
Now, I don't know how to coach.
I don't know how to do that shit.
And I would never try to be a coach.
I have a little bit of all the time.
Like, Will I would want to coach when he's done playing.
I don't.
I'm not trying to coach.
Like, I want to go.
I want to make my money, win a championship, make some Pro Bowl,
let's wear a jacket someday.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the kind of shit I want to do.
And then after that, I'm fairy dust.
I'm out of here.
But I, so I don't know how to necessarily develop people.
But if you look at that and you're such a sought after coach like Harbaugh has been,
it's one of those situations where
it is on the coaching staff now
you know what I'm saying
it does kind of get on that because you're getting
you're getting the dudes
you're getting the guys
you know what I'm saying
and it's just if you look at his track record
he's gone like oh and 10 versus top 15 opponents
like one and 12 against top 10
it's not a good look it's not a good look
and I might have got the stats wrong
one way or another but they just played Penn State a couple weeks ago
who was over haven't won a game all season
right and Penn State beat them by 10
points so it's like
struggle. Let me come on. You know, at the end of the day, it's like, where'd you play, where'd you play college ball at?
Oregon State. One year. That's right. Bevers. Dennis Erickson. We went 11 and 1. Missed national,
missed the chance to play in a national championship by a field goal against the Huskies.
The Huskies. And we blew Notre Dame out. That was fun. That was a great, that was a great year.
You were really there one year? Yeah, that was a knucklehead. I mean, my story, it's too long.
We'll be here all fucking day. Asshole.
never went to class in high school, graduated late.
Then I get to an AIA school in Oklahoma,
Lanks University.
Obviously, red shirt there, clock starts,
getting trouble for fighting there.
Go to Santa Monica in L.A.
with Steve Smith.
Right.
Okay.
I agree with that.
Play one year there.
That's two years down.
The following year, I'm ineligible.
There's three years down.
How's you're ineligible?
Grades.
School.
Fuck school.
I want to play football.
Right.
Yeah, you got to try to be ineligible.
So, obviously, I get my grades together throughout the offseason or I wouldn't be able to play.
Boom.
Play in Santa Monica the third year, obviously because I was in, and it was the second.
That's four years down.
One for one.
Oregon State gave me a shot.
And once I got there, I didn't look back.
And what do you mean by you didn't look back?
Like, you started taking it.
I had to take it serious.
You started to get it, you started to buckle down a little more.
Okay.
You put school in a position to.
As soon as I put school first and said, okay, I'm going to do this first.
And football second, everything just fucking went smooth.
And it took until I almost didn't have the opportunity to play at the next level or
showcase my talent on the big, big stage.
I didn't get it until then.
Like over and over, there was a fucking knucklehead.
And so knowing that was about to fully slip away from your hands, that's what made you want to straighten it up?
Yeah, straightened it up.
Or my opportunity to play in general, or even make it to the NFL.
Right.
Same to none.
What would you do if you didn't go to the NFL?
I probably, well, I was cheap as hell, but I would always want some nice.
things. I'd have to sell drugs.
I'll be a mule for the cartel.
Yeah. I mean, that's a good way to make money. It's tax-free.
I did, um, I did watch
an interview on you and you were talking about the circle friends you did have
growing up and how they kind of separate themselves from you.
Let me.
I was, where I grew up in Miami during that time was the dope era, the dope, dope boys
and the cocaine. And I would be around, but when it was going down or anything
that could hamper anything as far as my,
career or anything going forward football-wise.
Yeah.
And they kick me to fuck out.
Just from around, just around them in general.
Why do you think that?
Because usually it doesn't go that way.
Back then, it was structure.
People are trying to reel you in because they don't want to see you have success without
them.
It's not like that.
Back then, there was structure.
I'm not a street dude.
But there was a certain way things were done with individuals that had potential to
make it out of that area.
And they looked out for you.
They didn't bring you in.
So how did
How did you fully separate from that circle?
Was that when you went to the NFL?
I mean, once I left for college,
obviously I wasn't around it.
Yeah.
But I didn't indulge myself in that activity, though.
They wouldn't fucking allow me to even if I wanted.
So, you know, when you're young and you want to be cool,
you want to fit in.
Yeah.
You want to do what the fuck.
Let me do this.
Let me do that.
Right.
So they saw your talent level and said, no, he can't.
When the lights flicker, you know,
the lights, when it's coming on,
when the light starts flickering,
and they would send me out.
Damn.
Yeah, it was cool.
I heard a similar thing to Deshawn Watson.
Yeah.
He had a, he had a situation.
Like, I don't know his story.
This is all like secondhand stuff, but it would be a similar thing.
He would, you know, be in a bad area.
And when the lights start flickering, you have to go home.
Or if something was about to go down, they'd be like, you need to go home right now.
Because they, I mean, I heard it was because they knew how talented he was and he had a huge opportunity.
And dudes obviously want to get out of those situations.
I mean, that's, that is, that's your.
that's your out man
that's it those environments
the surroundings that where I grew up
or there's so many stories like that
our only way out is sports
you know I'm not a fucking academic scholar
who the fuck am I fooling
not a 4.0 no
that's not me I'm extremely smart
with finances and how to handle my money
but when it comes to all that other shit
when it comes to school that you're never going to fucking
use in life any goddamn way
am I using calculus
I felt stats three times
Algebra and all this.
You know, I'm not an engineer or just, I don't know, man.
It's weird, but I mean, it worked out.
When you start throwing letters into math, Y equals MX plus B, that's when I was like,
well, the game's over for me.
And I think that's where I've lost the battle.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I enjoyed it.
I try to steal.
My son is at Arizona State now with Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards.
He played receivers.
He played a freshman.
So I try to talk to him and tell him, you know, make it easy for you.
You're doing something I wasn't able to do.
You actually are a big school as a freshman getting that experience of college that I'd never got.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, ASEU is great.
I'm from Arizona.
For real?
Yeah, I'm from Cave Creek.
But I almost went there.
But after I saw the girls at Arizona State, I was like, I just can't go here.
Right.
Get in trouble.
So I went to the opposite.
I went to Michigan.
And I said, all right.
These girls at Michigan weren't.
Hey, it was tough sledding out there, Bub.
Especially when you grew up in Arizona.
You go up in Arizona.
It's beach weather all the time.
Everyone's going to the pool.
Everybody has a pool.
So everyone's got to stay in shape.
And so you're looking at nines going, that's a, you know.
Working at Target too.
And you're like, she's all right.
And then you go to Michigan and like, you're like, oh, I'll never have sex again, I guess.
I guess that's over for me.
And then six months goes by and you're like, well, I guess you're playing roulette, right?
You're zipping down the North Face jacket going, please make this a real thick jacket.
You know, you're hoping to God.
He's going to put that winter coat on.
And then you go back to Arizona.
They're like, these girls are way out of my league.
Now, now your mind starts to change a little bit.
So, but when I was, I went there a couple times.
And it was like, I was like, I can't fucking go here.
When girls wearing bikinis in class.
I was like, dude, this is fucking wild.
That's funny.
It's a different deal.
It's funny.
Hey, shouts to your son, man, to be able to go and do something like that.
I'm glad he's in that environment, though, because he has Marvin.
You know, obviously, Marble Lewis.
Well, yeah, you got to be probably, yeah, you probably have his number, talk to him all time.
He's in an NFL environment, even though.
in college, so I know they're going to make sure
and keep his head on right. Is his, is his talent
around yours, near years? Not yet. You got a long way to go.
Okay, where he is now as a freshman in college,
was he at that talent? Where were you guys
compared to? Right now,
where he would be right now, I would be
at Langson, different skill sets, so I'm not sure
it's hard to judge. Yeah. Different skillsets.
He's a lot bigger than me. He's bigger than me? He's bigger than you?
He's like 6-3 and like solid.
I'm still wired a little bit.
Yeah. You've always been able to
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We invented a podcast?
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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
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I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
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This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
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Run.
Didn't you play soccer too?
Soccer is my first love.
Right, because when you got out of football, weren't you on a team?
Didn't you play in a game?
Yeah.
Weren't you a part of that?
Yeah, semi-pro in Miami.
Boca Raton, F.C.
Soccer's always been my first love.
Obviously, I didn't have the resources to play it in Miami, but...
How was soccer your first love over football?
I have no idea.
That is what I gravitated as a child.
You know, when you're in P, elementary school,
you go to pee and they dump all the balls out at once.
Yeah.
I gravitated soccer ball for some of you couldn't play.
Damn.
Playing soccer in the hood in the age.
Think about it.
Yeah.
Really?
Oh.
Playing football.
on the street, not trying to hit cars.
Stop for the car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you find yourself with all the experience you have, and obviously kids and everyone
gravitates towards Chad Ocho Cinco because you have the facade of, you know, having fun
and doing all that stuff, do you find yourself mentoring a lot of kids who are trying to play
sports and trying to keep them on, A, don't be, you know, lights are flickering or going down this
path or that path?
Not really.
It's hard.
They ain't going to listen.
I've got to learn through experience, even though the message is coming for me.
I think of me at that age and hearing someone that I look up to,
and it goes in one ear and out the other.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, if I run into you, we have a talk, we ask a question.
I give you my input, my opinion on which you can and can do.
Right.
You know, right from home anyway.
I knew it back then.
I listened to the people or the people that came to talk that look at, oh, my God, that's so-and-so.
One ear, out the other.
You know, you remember what they said.
I mean, I had to learn through experience in,
I'm falling in my ass and having to get back up.
Yeah.
You think it'd be easier, especially when you become a parent.
I got two kids and you're like, and my kids are too young, but I know I'm going to get to the point.
I see what you're doing.
Let me help you with this.
And they're going to be like, you know, kind of fuck off.
I got to do that.
I got to go and do this.
You know, that's got to be hard to see, hard to watch.
Sounds like your kids got to get head and the shoulders, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what?
I'm lucky.
I have seven.
Seven kids?
I know you have a daughter who is very fast.
Oh, my God.
They all might be, but I'm just.
saying you know the one I'm talking about. Yeah, she's extremely fast. Actually to the point where
she might be able to get me right. That's crazy. Because I- Anything past 100, 100 meters, she'd probably
get me. And she's only 15. Yeah, she's a stud. He'll post her videos at track meets and stuff.
I'm just like, you know, kids are running like that these days? Yeah. Not in my school.
I have no issues. None of them were like I was. I wouldn't even say it's a test to me.
I said, it's tested to it. Yeah. Mom's not playing that shit. Do you have baby?
Mama drama.
Never have.
We all work as one unit.
It's good.
It's all one unit.
Bingo.
I like that.
I'm glad you just said that.
You fence them in.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't fenced in with two.
That's just a gate.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
That's a fucking game.
That's a fucking game.
You know what I'm sure?
Damn.
I'm sorry.
You got to remember that one.
I fucking just said it out loud.
I probably, you know, that's mine now.
Write that down.
Taylor wrote that one.
I said that.
On the pod forever.
It's now.
It's now it's now on the pod forever.
fucking ever.
I'll tell you what
the whole
having multiple mothers
thing it just seems
now I'm not stepping
on territories I don't fucking know
but it does seem like a difficult
track stressful I see some guys
three kids three women
and I'm like dude
that's a lot of fucking
work I like it
you know I think about
what I did everyone I had
a child with was based on their DNA
and athletic background
that's genius
it had nothing to do with how fine you were
or how you look
so strategic
every time
So it had nothing to do.
It had nothing to pulling out.
It was strategic.
I don't care anything about bad bitches and all that shit.
Hey, if I wanted models, I don't want fucking models.
I'm going to fucking athletes.
What did you do in high school?
Show me some fucking tape.
Show me some fucking tape.
No, I'm serious.
Listen, did you cheer?
Did you run track?
Did you play volleyball?
I need that DNA.
I need that fucking mixture to be on point.
You know, I don't need the bad bitch trying to look cute with good hair.
No, for what?
When the last time you seen a great football player that was fucking pretty?
I'm a really good football player.
You're not fucking.
You're pro-creating.
You're really pro-creating.
Basically.
And it worked because everybody, thank you.
Thank you.
I know that was Alex.
It was Alex.
Because everyone is athletic and their respective crafts and good at what they do.
So did they understand that they were getting trapped?
Yes, because I explained that beforehand.
So I'm going to put a baby inside you because you deserve it.
That's a horrible delivery.
That's a horrible delivery.
Are you sure?
But seduce me.
That's the gist of it.
Tell me how it happens.
That's the gist of it right there.
I'll be the girl.
I can't right now.
Are you ready?
Because I haven't done it in a while.
Remember, my kids are 23, 18, 16.
Yeah, that was so long.
Now, did these women have to pass the McDonald's first date test?
Everybody does.
I don't know who you are.
Explain your philosophy on dating.
I mean, it's what I love.
I already have money.
Yeah, I'm rich.
Yeah.
So I have nothing to prove to you.
You go out the red carpet as a man trying to, what's the word?
Court.
Court.
Yeah.
Well, there are certain things I like in life.
Can you like what I like knowing what I have the offer?
What are you bringing to the table outside a vagina?
Yeah.
And you're an added expense.
Can you enjoy this meal without frown in your face
by pulling this McDonald's drive-thru?
Oh, you don't go inside.
No, go through drive-thru.
That's the first date.
Boss, get your gun out, Blas.
It works.
Plus is a cop.
Seriously?
Yeah, he's a cop.
Yeah, we're fired up.
Oh, shit.
It's a tough time to be a cop right now.
He said, shit, I have a fucking warrant.
So you don't take them into McDonald's.
You're going to drive-thru.
Drive-thru.
The facial expression, when you pull in McDonald's drive-thru, where they're dressed up and thinking
they're going somewhere nice, I need to see your facial expression.
So they have no clue they're going to McDonald's.
Yeah.
That's what I've done every time.
Obviously, now.
People are understand.
Right.
You know, when I date after, they know.
And then after that, you know, you do the nice upscale restaurants and it's cool.
You got to pass that first level.
Yeah.
So if you're in the drive-thru, let's say where you take a girl at the drive-thru and you look over and she's like, body language.
She does the body language, facial expression.
Looks over at you.
Yeah, we won't.
We won't be doing this again.
So do you still order food or do you leave?
You're like, this is it.
Or do you kind of pull around?
You know, sometimes they have two lanes.
I order.
He's still going to get his food.
I bet I was going to say, I bet he's still getting his food.
And if she has a problem with it.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
You had a whole village anyway.
Dingo.
Got a squad, right?
Yeah.
I mean, are you adding to my fucking plate?
No, you're fucking taking.
And what you're offering, I can get elsewhere for fucking free.
No question.
Or for a premium price.
But yes, absolutely.
That too.
I've always wondered, how do you enjoy McDonald's so damn much?
As a kid.
I understand that.
I'm just saying, like, every day.
You know how you're getting phased in?
I need to take a break right now, but I'll go back to it.
I do take a break.
I eat other things.
Porto Tropical, depending on, I don't know if they have one here.
Puerto Tropical.
No free shutouts.
I don't know if they have Bahamah Breeze here.
No?
No.
That sounds like Miami.
Soul food restaurants.
Love soul food.
Yeah.
In Miami, Cuban restaurants.
Love that.
I love Cuban coffee.
I don't drink alcohol.
So anytime I have a cigar, I always have to have coffee, which is why I ask for a coffee.
What's the place in Germantown that's like?
That's what I was trying to think of.
Soul food.
place you sit there it's bench
style seating you're not allowed to be on your phone right
it's like you go into a house and they
they have like the best food
you'll sit there it's unbelievable
it starts with like an am i think
yeah i know it's right in german
it's like 10 minutes away from here you'd love it
yeah you should check it out if it's not expensive
the name of it i was trying to figure out right now
yeah okay monel
that's it's like breakfast lunche dinner
yeah always have like a fried chicken
or like it's a great
tweet.
Monells?
He said that's a good tweet.
That's the people what they think about Monell's.
Monell's a solid.
I think you'll get a raving.
People are all about hot chicken here too.
I ate it.
I don't know.
Hattie B's is pretty good, but people say that's like a cop.
Like, that's not the deal.
You shouldn't go there.
It's a different spot.
But I think, I mean, I had had hadadie Bs one time.
I ate it.
They told me to go to Hattie Bs.
Yeah.
I saw that multiple times.
It's more of a tourist type thing.
It's like, I'm going to go here just because.
Monels is not towards.
So I think you would actually see look there's a spot you walk into that house
You walk in there you walk into that place it's like it's like lunch tables
Yeah and so you'll be sitting next to a person you don't even know how do you spell that
Monell's M-O-N-E-L-L and it it'll hopefully it'll figure it after that
You know what I'm saying it's a monels there's probably an ass in there I go yeah
Yeah look you tell though you go sit right up in there I'm sure everybody's saying I love you there
It's cool too and if you go any L L LL F yeah double any LLF
Yep.
No free shoutouts, Manels.
We better see that checked.
What does NFL films have you doing out here?
Doing a feature on AJ Brown.
Oh.
He's having a phenomenal season.
He made the Pro Bowl this year?
I don't know yet.
No, I'm saying, do you think he makes the Pro Bowl this year?
That's a question.
It's impossible.
All the receivers are doing well.
Look at the stats of all the receivers.
Yeah, right.
He's at nine touchdowns and eight games.
He has a nickname that we've given him.
And since you're going to be featuring him, this would be phenomenal.
I'm going to use it.
Arthur Juan Canobe.
Arthur Juan Canovi?
Are you a Star Wars guy?
His name, AJ, is Arthur Juan.
And so we're playing off of a Star Wars character.
We're playing off a Star Wars character, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Yeah.
So we call him Arthur Juan Canobey.
You have to know that this was something that Will decided is going to be like our next next step.
No, I think he doesn't like it.
Arthur, Obi-Won.
He's okay.
I'm not going to hang on, hang on.
Obi-Won Canobi has a rat tail.
Arthur Juan Canobi, he's got his little, he calls it a Gucci tail.
So I think it's like a no-brainer
Beautiful teeth in the kid
Get some T-shirts made
You know what I mean
Just always thinking
Nine touchdowns and eight games
Ballin
Who else in the AFC is doing that?
Yeah
He'll tell it yeah
Who else is?
I mean
Look at some of the AFC receivers
It's right there
I mean
It's up there
Tyree Kill
I'm just going to go
My Lama head
DK's going crazy
DK's in the NFC
though
Diffon Diggs
Stefan Diggs
He'll make the Pro Bowl
The top is NFC too, right?
Yep.
He's just left.
Will Fuller is Houston.
Fuller's not going to make it.
He just got Pop for a PED.
Keenan Allen.
He's a monster.
He runs good routes, right?
He saw it.
Superb routes.
Superb routes.
He kills dudes.
Now is he having, what's his numbers like?
Oh, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I don't think it's up there.
I'm not sure.
But he has a name.
Would you say if I said Keenan Allen or A.J.
Brown, just from a name.
Well, it would obviously be.
It'd be Keenan.
Yeah, yeah.
But I don't know.
I'd say, I mean, Tyrake Hill, obviously, he's going to make the Pro Bowl.
He had 200 yards in one quarter, it's unbelievable.
And he's got a big name.
Stefan Diggs is another one.
Keen Allen could be another one.
How many receivers they take to the Pro Bowl?
Four?
I mean, I have no clue.
I think he's in it then.
If he did he four, if they take three, it's like, okay, well, he's got a big name
out there because you know what is a big name game.
If you've got the name, this and the other.
And if you got, you got to put up the numbers too, somewhat.
No question.
But you got dudes.
If he finishes the year strong, I mean, yeah, he's got a real good show.
Well, voting is now.
Those last two games don't count.
Those last two games don't matter.
You know what I'm saying?
So he's got,
he's got three more games.
I think he's,
I love AJ.
He's great teammate too.
Like the way,
when he's around,
he's infectious,
he's,
for the most part,
pretty happy.
You know,
he was acting a little weird
this in the beginning of year.
He was throwing us through a little.
That's AJ.
But now he's,
he's AJ now.
What are your thoughts on AJ?
I like him.
On Arthur I,
Canobey. I tweet them all the time. I want to give them smaller shoulder pads, though.
Smaller? Too big?
Yeah, they're too big.
He's a...
I'm telling you, his shoulders are actually...
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.
What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called,
Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential.
title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an
a a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts.
The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs.
And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Genshin won.
I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
and I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
He's wide.
I wanted to get some fucking shoulder pads like Ed McCaffrey.
Like, let the fucking gun show.
Pull that up.
Yeah.
I told them too.
I said, hey.
The guns were showing the shoulder pads like Michael Bennett damn near.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He basically put, yeah.
This shit does look trash.
But I know what you're saying.
Like the smaller the smaller stuff is the actual bigger you look.
Yeah.
I'm with that.
It looks like he's playing in the 50s almost.
Right. Yeah, he does have some big pads on.
But he's a big cat. He's a big dude, man.
His shoulders are very broad.
And he's like, it's like a triangle.
Do you have a list of the best route runners?
I'm sure people ask you that all the time.
No. I just, who are some of your tops?
When I think about DeMonte Adams, Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley.
Calvin Ridley's like that?
Yeah.
Terry McLaren.
He's a young, he's a stud, too, secondary player.
He's special.
Jerry Judy.
you like him
Jerry Judy
Jerry Judy
See with Alabama
He's for Broncos
Oh okay
Okay okay okay okay I know you're talking about
Amari Cooper
I mean it's so many
It's so many
But I mean
The top two to me
Obviously to me are
Devonti Adams and Kenan Allen
Are the AN1
Mix tape of
Running routes and creativity
And just like
Embarrassing you
Yeah
The line one-on-one
Like embarrassed
Both of them brought you
To tears
in watching the routes.
Yeah.
It's a sight to see.
And it's hard for people, the casual fan
really won't understand it.
They'll just call out other big names
and receivers who put up big numbers,
but you won't understand the art
and creativity of what they do.
How did they compare to you?
Well, it's only one Ocho.
That is true.
Only one Ocho.
Only one eight is what he just said.
That doesn't make very much sense, does it?
There's only one eight.
Was it a,
I've heard you say that the first two years of playing in the league, you slept at the stadium.
Yeah.
I mean, I've been to Cincinnati, so I know it's, I mean, it's, it's only the stadium facility.
It's all one thing.
Yeah, the players lounge.
But is this something that was happening every day?
Or you only stayed there every day.
I don't want to spend any money.
I fucking love that, dude.
So where were you set up at?
The players lounge.
Players lounge has everything.
You got your gaming.
You got your couches.
You got blankets.
You got pillows.
So you slept on the couch.
You ain't get like a cot or something?
No, expensive-ass couch.
You flush, you know, for the fat guys, the big boys.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Everything free.
You got water.
You got food.
You got a cafeteria.
What am I getting a place for that they have to pay rent for?
And I can stay there rent-free.
Parking lot.
It's a plus when I'm buying a place is the parking lot.
I'm hungry.
Lead a stadium.
Go, put my code back in, come back in.
It's everything.
So why'd you leave?
Oh, Marvin Lewis and Hugh Jackson made me get a place.
They said you have this time?
Yeah, my third year.
God.
They made me get a place.
Yeah, well, I stayed at my grandma's house in Miami where I grew up as a kid until my fifth year.
Every offseason?
I went home.
When I went home to Miami, I'm still living in the same house with my grandma.
And once I made, I'm like, listen, we can move now.
We can move out of here.
And she'd rather stay there because of the memories and nostalgia.
Yeah.
I'm like, are you serious?
So she wanted to remain in that area.
you say fuck it okay well i'll stay here too
am i getting the fucking house
i do love that i do love that every um every
all says i'd stay at my at my parents place just in the offseason but not
don't try to compare yourself i said not i said not during season
taylor doesn't know about being frugal i am actually a very frugal person
everything i'm wearing was free everything i'm wearing is that that that is true
years cost $40 mine cost zero so so far i'm winning the game urban urban out
Urban Outfitters have a sale going on right now
So go off the sale rack
I just put it together
That's why I don't fucking match
It's a nice little deal
I think you match just fine
I think it looks good
I think you know
I think you know what you're doing
Yeah I like it
I just threw some shit together
You know what you're very tactical
You definitely are a chess player of life
It's not like
You like to come off as
Well you know I just kind of do whatever
But you're definitely
I feel like you are very
Like you're steps throughout the day
You know what you're doing
And you've done a great job of it
He said yeah
premeditated.
Very premeditated.
You're solid, yeah.
Sometimes it has to be.
You just can't go all willy-nilly.
See, I'm a fly-by-to-sue with my pants guy for the most part.
I've had to tame it back a little bit having kids now, but I've definitely been more of a willy-nilly than a tactical force.
But I tell you what, being around you makes me want to be more tactical.
That's what you're bringing to the table.
You're influencing me.
I'm 29 years old.
Got to try it.
I will.
I will.
I'll do that now.
so much work
I feel like it's a lot of work
but it seems like it's not
easy and you do what you want to
like you've answered your phone and
tweeted on this on this program
and he's done it smooth hey he's done it smooth too
hey he's been smooth about it too
yeah holy shit
monel's hits doesn't it
smoking thighs absolutely your breakfast
somebody say yes you won't be disappointed
otto's one of the best here
yes somebody said McDonald's
oh you're cheating on McDonald's
McDonald's haddy bees
as McDonald's
like giving you like
you know how
I did some more
they give you a car
I did something card
I did some of McDonald's
in 05 through 07
that's
Is that when you
I can't even remember
I can't even remember
I know there's one time
where you want to do
you would drive up
and ask for an application
in cases of the job
didn't work out
You never fucking know
Excuse me
Can I have application also
You can get it in the first
The second window
Thank you
You never know
when I might lose my job
They were doing like a, what was that call?
It's like an NFL film thing where they're following him around.
He's talking about how much he like works out and then he'll go to the drive-thru and he back.
Can I get an application?
He'd pull up.
You never know when the other one's not going to work out saying that.
He already said that too.
I love that.
Everybody fucking mentioned Mortons.
The fuck is Morton's.
It's a chain steakhouse.
It's a chain steakhouse.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah.
No free shoutouts, Martin's.
Yeah.
And Saturday, obviously, I have to film.
I'm going to
famous country place.
Hockey Talk?
No.
Is that on Broadway?
Yeah,
is a Tissie's.
Something that has to do
where the country singers
and is famous
is,
when you come to
Nashville,
everybody.
Country Music Hall of Fame?
No.
It's the Riemann or it's
Johnny Cash Museum?
No.
God damn.
It's a concert hall.
He's talking about.
There's the Riemann that's just
off Broadway.
Right.
And then what's the place
that was over at
by the mall?
By the mall.
It's literally the name of the mall.
Opperi?
Grando Opper.
That's it.
Yeah.
I have to go there tomorrow.
I've never been there.
I have to go there tomorrow.
And so that's how the piece is going to go.
So in Jacksonville, we did James Robinson.
We featured him, rookies, having a great fucking...
Yeah, he's doing well.
And I'm...
I've been fucking golfing at TBC Sawgrass.
Of course.
And I sucked.
So that was half of the film and the rest with Jane Robinson, you know, playing against the Brown.
So tomorrow I'm going to...
what is it?
Grandin-law library.
I don't, yeah, so I'm going to do that.
And then the other half will be what AJ Brown does against the Browns.
You think you're going to get their autographs?
Him and Corey Davis?
Yeah, I fucking scream and heckle all the players every time.
That's good.
Every time they come out of the tunnel.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, AJ's going to love that.
I asked for a ball with some funny shit.
Yeah.
I saw you tell AJ, you should be to throw a ball and he'll pay the fine.
You retweeted it, so it would probably throw one before the game.
Can't find him for that.
You should throw one during the game.
You said you pay the fine.
I would.
grand. See, now we're, that's a lot of money.
Not really because remember I'm a mule for the cartel, so my money's coming in different.
Yeah, no, he's got different pockets. He's got different pockets. Yeah, no, that's, that's absolutely
how it goes. Um, one of my grandal opery, I've never been to the grandal operate, but when I first
got drafted here, um, they were like, hey, it was during OTAs. So I'm like trying to learn
the playbook. And they're like, Willie Nelson is going to introduce you at the Grandal
Opry. And I mean, I was like, I'm a big Willie fan.
I fucking said, no, no, no, no.
I need to stay here and study my playbook.
What?
Biggest regret of my life.
I want to took my fucking playbook with me.
I'll tell you what.
I fucked up.
Look at me in the eyes.
I fucked up.
That's just life.
Lily Nelson?
The king.
I'll tell you what.
You said no for really.
If I had a drug test tomorrow and Willie Nelson was like, smoke this with me, I don't
care if it's PCP.
I'm smoking that with Willie Nelson.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's because that's how much you regret that move.
He's a, dude, Willie Nelson is a legend.
Doesn't seem like you understood that.
though when you said no.
Doesn't seem like you understood that at the time.
He said no.
He's like saying he is a fucking legend.
I didn't appreciate it.
I thought, oh, more opportunities would pop up.
I'll be fine.
Like, I've been here for four days.
Like, this is already what it's happening.
Yeah.
I haven't had one fucking call about Willie Nelson since.
I messed up everything.
There's certain things in life that you just don't turn down.
Certain opportunities that present themselves that will never come about again, that you just can't turn down.
Like bustling with the boys.
You took advantage of this opportunity.
Turn this down.
Like I had the opportunity to stay in my room and have sex with multiple women in Tennessee that send me their vagina.
Right.
And where am I?
You're with the boys.
I'm fucking bust with the boys.
Because you're for the boys.
Fuck the vagina.
You don't need it.
It's just taking food off your plate.
We've already talked about this.
See what?
If anything, we're good listeners.
You know what else?
The vagina is?
What's that?
It's a fucking added expense.
It's an added expense.
And if anybody given to you free, it's not that fucking good.
Look at all them back there.
All them back there.
like a class just now.
They were like this.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news,
huge news?
We created our own podcast called,
Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name,
Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel
and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you
funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an
a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some
retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and
friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed
there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down
everything happening at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to
win on clay.
Genshin win.
I mean, she went down in three to Rovachina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
And I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Do you think about the genre?
They're like, yeah?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
If she says, oh, I'm not a prostitute.
You're paying indirectly in some kind of way.
Dinner, flowers.
Chocolate.
Some chocolate.
Movies.
Go-karts.
Netflix.
Anything.
Candy.
Postmates again eventually.
Chockeys.
Oh, what I said.
Chocolate.
You know what I'm saying.
Some way.
You're paying indirectly.
Johnny Cash Museum.
Which is.
You shouldn't go.
Fucking Johnny.
I want to talk a little bit about your new, your plazepard.
platform I am athlete.
Hey, that's Brandon Marshall's.
You do that, yeah, with Brandon Marshall, Fred Taylor and Shannon Crowder.
Shannon Crowder.
Yeah, I've seen that.
When did that start happen?
This is season two for them.
And I did the beginning of season two, Brandon asked me to come by and just be on.
Reggie Wayne was on there, Fred Taylor, and Shannon and and Brandon.
I would just a guess.
talked about the Hall of Fame.
We talked about some other things.
It did so well.
The jump and
Brandy was like, dude,
you gotta, you gotta cook.
We need 85.
I was like,
cool, what days?
Because I have other things I have going on.
You know, I have a show with Kyle Long
and NFL and Twitch called Twitch Sports.
Wednesdays.
And I said if we can do it,
long as I can finish this first,
then I can come from with you guys.
after.
Timing worked out, and we've been going strong ever since.
And now it's doing well, especially in the YouTube space, for sure.
I like it.
I really enjoy it.
And that's in Miami?
Yeah.
In Miami.
I like it a lot.
It's similar type of platform.
They just kind of talk about just, they're just raw.
And they talk about some shit on there.
Important stuff, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
We touch on everything.
You know, race, religion, politics.
Hairy stuff.
Those three things you just said are hairy.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
Very touchy shit.
It's nice sometimes to fucking...
A little gray area.
Hit the boundaries a little bit.
And you all have different views and opinions, so that's what makes it like entertaining.
Actually speak your mind.
And we let it rip.
You don't obviously care what people get mad about this opinion or that opinion.
That doesn't bother you at all.
No.
And I never gave a funk.
Yeah, that's smart.
It's good to do that.
It's hard.
I feel like it's harder to do that now with all the stuff,
social media and all that.
It's more difficult to ignore those things.
I mean, it's there in your face,
but it's still easy to ignore.
One off a duck's back,
you know.
We had a guy on the podcast.
His name's Brandon Scha.
The guy,
he's a great comedian,
and he has a few podcasts.
He does a lot of good work.
And he brought that up,
how he just,
he has social media,
has thousands of followers,
and he just put something out there,
and then he doesn't look,
comments or anything.
He just does this thing.
That's,
that's admirable,
because it's hard to do.
When you're in,
you're in the middle of your career,
and you're trying to figure out, like, how good can I be this?
You kind of want to get gassed up a little bit once in a long.
Yeah, you'll check them things.
You go check a little, put your name in the old search engine.
Right.
You see nine great things about yourself, but that one bad thing, you're like, these motherfuckers.
They don't fucking get it, do they?
It's always like that.
I think for me it's extremely easy because I already had that mentality from going up.
Not giving a fuck.
So the carry on, once I got to the NFL, I still had the same mentality of not giving me fuck.
Obviously, I love playing into the villain role.
Right.
The media betrayed me
and I loved it
I loved the persona
And that's all it was
So people seemed to confuse it too
Person
Like
Person
Yeah this is me
That's just
That's an
That's an act
Act
Marketing
The whole
You know the whole nine yards
Right
I like it
And just not give me the fuck
Because if I cared
Then I would stop doing
What I was doing
A long time ago
Once the media
Ugh
I lay around my ass
For everything
Was there anything you wish you hadn't done?
And if I could do it again, I do it the same way and plus some.
When you transition from the Bengals to the Patriots, what was that like?
When you're up here, like Chad Ochosenko, you're doing all this stuff, you're celebrated, you were the Cincinnati Bengals.
And then you start to transition and realize that, damn, you know, at the end of the day, business is business.
Right.
Take us through that transition.
I mean, it's easy because you already know.
It's an organization that doesn't play that shit and doesn't really really.
need you. Right. Once you get there, you walk in that door, the atmosphere, you understand
that you're expendable at it. Your commodity. No matter who you are. Unless you're that centerpiece,
which was 12, that makes that train run, makes that whole train function. Because the pieces to the
puzzle in the Wengland chains constantly. Think about it. Oh, yeah. But one piece you remain the same.
Put a back spot. But everything else around him is shuffles year and a year out. Year and a year out.
but they continuously win
no matter who's there.
So it was a tough spot.
I enjoyed it.
Obviously, I wasn't as productive as I'd like.
But hell, me, Wes Welker, Aaron Hernandez,
Gromk, Edelman.
I mean, where the fuck did I fit in anyway?
It's not like I had a choice.
I think if I had a choice,
would I have chose to go to New England?
Probably fucking not.
Probably not.
No, because it just, it wasn't a great fit for me,
even though, oh my God, you get to play with the greatest quarterback of all time.
Yes.
But as you see, right.
Right.
I don't really need you, but you're here.
Big name.
Eh?
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's,
Extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it out.
as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs
banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for
banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know
firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis
podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset,
and what it really takes to win on clay.
Jenchian win. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
And I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Could you state at Cincinnati?
I could have, but I'm not sure how the business side of things work, but that's not what they wanted.
And what I'm going to say, oh my God, I don't want to go to fucking England.
Right.
You didn't have any other places that wanted you?
Sure, but they traded.
Oh, that's right.
That's right. You got traded. That's right.
That's a lot of people.
Is that when you started to figure out that you were a commodity or had that been something you already understood?
the whole time. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
See, I told John Robinson he traded Jarrell Casey this past year in the offseason to the
Broncos. And Jarrell's been here forever. He made five Pro Bowls here. He has done a great job
for this team. He's a good dude. So I pulled him over during camp. I said, John, if you
fucking trade me. That's a D tackle, right? He has a D tackle, yes. So the GM, 98, 99.
Oh, 9, okay. So Jarrell got traded the Broncos. So I pulled John to the side during camp.
I said, John, I love you to death.
But if you trade me, do not send me somewhere cold.
Just make sure you send me somewhere warm.
That's all I care about.
So he agreed.
So John, this is fucking out here now.
So if I ever get traded to somewhere cold, I'll be pissed.
Going to Buffalo or something, or the Patriots.
Do you think, obviously, the Patriots being what they were, and then Tom leaving, and then Cam coming in?
Because once Cam went there, you're like, oh, they're going to be right back where they left off.
Are you surprised about kind of how it hasn't been necessarily that?
this year.
Because they can still with the playoffs, right?
They have much of a season, off season.
No, I mean, it's COVID.
No.
Yeah.
I think all that matters.
Yeah.
Being able to jail with your teammates, work out in the off season.
I think all that matters.
I think next year would be a little different.
I'm hoping maybe they allow him to another year.
Well, he was only, he's only on a one year, right?
Even though he's on a one year.
I think people are saying he'll still be there from what I see, right?
Right.
It's smart.
New England's in the driver's see as far as business contractually because it's like, you know, Cam wanted to have a hell of a year because he gets to go back to the bank and re-up big time.
Right.
So when it's not going perfectly, it's like the Patriots know that when they give him an offseason, he'll probably flourish.
But as far as like leverage and business, like, I'm sure.
It'll be interesting.
You never know with them, though.
You never know what the page is.
But is there a better option at this point?
Ben Cam
But giving Cam a full offseason
Work with everyone
You know
Offensive standpoint
Right
A better place for him to go
No I mean
It's just far as the opportunity
Again
Yeah
To try it again
A full season under his belt
Offence and understanding the scheme
Understanding what he has around him
He's a stud too
They need to get more pieces there too
So what all are you into now
You do NFL films
You got a
I am athlete now
athlete with Brandon.
I have an NFL Twitch show with how long on Wednesdays.
I'm the ratings adjuster for EA.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
It's funny.
With just the receivers?
Oh, everybody.
Players are five players every week.
Not a lot of old linemen on that, Madden adjuster.
Say what we need.
We need to get the boy taken care of.
Yeah, my shit's terrible.
He's been like low 80s every year.
You know what I'm saying?
Three-time Pro Bowl.
We need a little bit more respect on my man's.
name.
You know what I'm saying?
Please.
I don't need to be good in real life.
I just need to get in the game.
You know what I'm saying?
I got you.
It's always nice and you got a decent rating.
Yeah, 84.
Well, he got boosted to a 69.
You saw that.
I saw the tweet.
Somebody said,
thank you.
Thank you.
I went from a 68 to a 69.
Fuck around.
You know what I'm saying?
How'd that happen?
Falling.
Oh,
shit.
Well, fuck, man.
I'll tell you what, this has been a cool, cool experience.
Always knew who you were, knew your personality, but never, like, truly fall.
I'm definitely a fan now.
That's pretty cool, man.
It's really cool to have you on.
And I know Will's been a big fan for a while.
When you said you were coming on, I called, I almost made Will not go.
But I called Will and he's stoked, dude.
And so I appreciate you coming, man.
Not a lot of people.
I actually brought a cigar.
I'm going to have you sign it.
Real?
Because when I was about to come, so here's what we got.
Appreciate you coming on busting with the boys.
I'm about to get this autograph.
Everybody go subscribe, rate five stars, give raving reviews.
You can follow us, Bustin WTB.
Bus and WTB.
We also have a YouTube channel, Bustle with the Boys.
But share this episode.
Y'all from the Mount Top.
We had chat outro Cinco on.
Thank you very much for coming on.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast.
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it out.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
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Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter.
Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
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wherever you get your podcasts.
Winning on Clay is an art.
The rallies are relentless.
And at the French Open, only the toughest survive.
I'd know.
I competed there for decades.
Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the
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the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris.
She's an outsider to win the French fame.
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Listen, Lennar Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
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