Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Derrick Henry On Alabama vs. Georgia And Why The NFL Should Ban Turf

Episode Date: July 19, 2025

Recorded: January 12, 2022 | In this Best of the Bus episode, Derrick Henry pulled up to reflect on the Titans' 2021 season and drop some unfiltered takes. He shared his thoughts on why the NFL needs to ditch turf fields for good and go all-in on grass. Things heat up when the boys debate who runs the SEC, asking "Has Georgia officially taken the crown from Alabama?" The King also opens up about the mental side of the game, including how he deals with media pressure and fan criticism. Long Live The King.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So during exit physicals the other day, IR guys, they go in, they do their own thing like a week before the Jacksonville game. obviously the training staff didn't have a lot of faith in the boys. But I go in because I know the boys are going out. There's the team meeting and I want to be a part of it. See all the guys. And Derek's signing shoes. Sign shoes for Ben Jones.

And I walk over, maybe I can get me a pair of them King Henry shoes. I go after Derek and I'm like, hey, man, let me get a pair of those. And he's like, looks at me. You're on the team? He looks at me. He goes, these are for you. And he picked them and goes, I'll give you the white ones.

These are for you and signs them and puts two Taylor the one. to the boy 77, but very, very strict on these are for you. Is there like something behind that that makes you feel like you got to make sure people know? This is for you, not for anybody else? No, I'm just saying this for you. I'm signing to you, personalize them to you and gave Ben a pair that we've been teammates for the longest, me, you and Ben. So let's make sure that when people see them, it says, take a little on, the boy 77. Do you feel like teammates have ever taken advantage of getting King Henry memorabilia?

No. I mean, sometimes they act more than, you know, once or twice or three times. Yeah. Everybody's all cool about it. Yeah. How do you feel about, are you, like, beg on, with teammates, do you, is it anybody else, hey, practice squad guy, rookie, let me get a jersey? Are you like... If I write what you like that and, you know,

we've been cool and, you know, we put in work together, then I have no problem with a matter of you. Practice squad. Yeah. You're a starter. It don't matter, but, you know, some guys kind of push the buttons a little bit, but everything else, it's pretty much cool. But some guys, you know, they want to ask, I'd be like,

got the opportunity for myself. Because I haven't got, you know, I haven't got a jersey. You might not ever. Yeah, I know, but I do have mine hanging up right above my cold time. I rock with. I'm like, we rock together once a lot. I was thinking if your 10 went through, you probably would have to get out. Send that out to Atlanta.

Shifted over. Dude, yeah, that's, because there are guys. I remember walking in and dudes, you know, everyone's doing jerseys and signing stuff. Some dudes are just giving jerseys just to give them. And I had, like, two or three guys come up to me and be like, you think, you think Derek would give me a jersey? And I was like, I don't, I don't really see Derek sign. Really? I got a jersey.

If you're asking another teammate to know of, like, hey, you think I could ask Derek, then that should be your answer. That should be, the answer should be no. If you feel good enough to go asking, then that's, you know. Like, I remember when you got the rushing title, 2019. The 19, yeah. In 2019, you got, you gave all the offensive linemen jerseys. And all of us kind of sat around like, damn, he didn't really sign stuff like that. This is a big deal.

Rollies up for the boys. What was it 1564? 1540. 1540. What's 1540? That's how many yards he rushed for. And he needed like 2.30 in the last game. Yeah.

To beat Chub. Yeah. But no, not. But the jersey thing. just, you know, I value my jersey. I value my person to belong. It's not just I want to give them out to anybody. I feel like when you work with something so hard,

then, you know, you put a lot of work in, and it's a lot into, you know, the jersey and a lot invested that I just want to give it out to anybody. But if we have a special relationship and we were rocking for a long time, then I won't have no problem. I'm, you know, I'm scheming in my head right now. Yeah, you're going to get that, we're going to get you that jersey boss.

In due time. In due time. not going to play my hand too. Bro, you know, I was thinking about the other day. Remember whenever we, the COVID year, we did the bus cut? Yeah. I got that piggy blinders. And they just stopped, like, doing photos for us.

Like, when we went to the plane and, like, you were just, like, tweaking out everybody's outfit. I was, like, I was thinking about the other day. I was like, damn, that was a crazy time, boy, because we couldn't get a photo. We couldn't do nothing. Remember? Because I, before the flight, I went to Garrett's house so I could get a, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

You don't remember that? This will never, are not the joke, but the whole thing will never come full circle. Everyone thinks I'm just, I look absolutely fucking ridiculous. They miss some legendary stuff that year. Yeah, bro. The best part about that was the Titans literally put you on the injury report. I know, bro. The actual, like, Twitter official injury report for your haircut.

It, like, made that day a little bit easier because that, remember, we were practicing on Christmas, and it was freezing outside. It was a brutal. You don't remember this? Bro, I was, that was my first ACL. Oh, yeah. I really been around. the last couple of years, Bub. Wow.

Was that Houston? Houston Week 5. Yeah. Houston Week 5. That was right before. Wasn't it? No, I told my saying, we were five. We beat Houston.

We were 5 and O. No, we beat the bills. And we played the Houston that, that same week, because we played on Tuesday, we played Houston that Sunday. Yes. Oh, yeah, because all that COVID shit. We legit proved that we didn't need practice anymore.

Sponsored by Zoom. Sponsored. Yeah. Then we played the Steelers right after that. Yeah. I know. That was a, was a weird and also legendary year.

That was a weird year. We lost that first round of the playoffs, which was a fucking bummer because we dogged. Yeah, y'all should have been... Not like dogged them, but in the fourth quarter, dogged the Ravens that year. Yeah. I still still... You all should beat the Ravens for real.

I know. Look at us reminiscent on the old days. War stories. I know war stories. I know. The boys just talking war stories right now. You're hard to be back on the bus? I'm hype, man.

How long has been? It's been a year and a half, too? I feel like it's been to two years. Like two years. Last time you even been here. Have you come on here? not this location. It was a yearly thing I used to do it after the season.

I think I did it after 19. Yeah, but last year I went to Texas. Texas early, yeah. Early, quick. Yeah, what does Derek Henry's offseason look like? As soon as the season ends. Obviously, we can get into how the season went in a little bit. But for you, exit interviews happened two days after.

What do you do right after that? Yeah, packing, getting everything ready to go to Dallas. My girl likes to get right out of here and go back to Dallas as quick as possible. She loves Texas. She's from Texas. And then once we do that, get a lot of stuff ready, get it shipped, car ship, everything ship,

the dogs get to Texas. And by that time, if I want to work out, I'll probably work out a little bit into a Pro Bowl and Super Bowl and all those and all those things. And once I get back from there, I think it's just going right into it.

I mean, I might take trips here and there, but I'm still going to work out. But it's not like working out, like going right into a football training, but it's just like working out to stay fit because I love working out. Like I'm going to do that whenever I'm done playing because I just love working out. You know, I love being fit.

I can't sit around. I just something that I can't do. So that's just something that I've always done is working out. Even when I was little. I mean, my cousin would be older than me, they have like weights and I'll be using them doing push-ups and then wait about two days and I want to see my muscles going to grow and they never did. I'm like, man, what's going on?

And I just keep doing more push-ups and sit-ups. But I just love working out. That's what I've always. you know, benefactuated with and, you know, even when I'm done, that's what I'll probably do

is work out and be fit and doing a lot of type of stuff. When you say, like, when you get done, you'll be doing something in the workout world, like, what does it look like?

Like, do you know what you want to do? Or you trying to be like, I don't know. I might. Flexing like you trying to get big. No, not like that. That's too much. I've seen those guys.

And the time they get to a certain age, they are, you know, they're drained. I ain't trying to know like that. Like Ronnie Coleman. Yeah, exactly. So, but, no, Shrots out to him, no free shout-outs.

Yeah. There you go. But probably, I don't know. I was talking to somebody. I was like, might do some Crawford. Because that looks challenging. Like, all that stuff. They have to do the pull-ups and pull their stuff up over the bar.

I might want to try that one day? On a national level? Man, no. Hell, no. They didn't even have it looking crazy. I think it would be insane if you won a CrossFit, like, the Super Bowl CrossFit games. I got a lot of, it looks.

It looks. It's a smaller part. They're like hard. Yeah. Reserved bill. Pit bull body. He's strong to. Yeah.

Somebody like Derek. comes in and wins and it's like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Cross people are probably mad as hell, too. Like, man, he already, you have the NFL. Yeah. But is there a prize? What's the?

It's, I think it's like a, what's a reward? Cash prize. For real. Yeah, Rich Fronings, but he was like our second episode ever. You know. But people who do that stuff and like, you know, IG, like that little community of fit and CrossFit, that's, you know, it's real popular. People buy into that.

Like, if you have fit behind your Instagram, people, is automatically going to flock to it and follow you because they want to see what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. The fitness is that in your algorithm on Instagram? You might need to start a bus with the boys fit in this. Some workouts outside the bus and sit.

Bus and fit. Bus and fit. I'm telling you. Gagg. 2023 is a huge thing for all of us right now. I am on the injury report at the moment. Will's hurting, but the boys in the back are thriving right now. thriving.

I want to know what was anything said to you when you posted that mirror picture? Was they be like, hey, Will. our Godlines at the Falcons You were just sitting there at the mirror photos I didn't know we was a guideline you had to follow after you posted that And I was like that might have affected

That might affect the year 10 I don't know Bro you want to know what's wild is I mean Arthur he was here but art is about the content He's about busting Yeah he was like You know I can't wait until we sign you like

When we fly to Washington, he goes, I want you doing high knees on the plane, like how Russell was doing to London. Yes, right. He's not going to get you, like, on video doing high knees on the plane, trying to, like, rally the boys or whatever. Because the first week was going to be Washington Week. He's like, you'll be on practice squad, but you're going to travel. And he's like, I want to get you.

Well, the first week, that was going to be a big one. No, bro. It was going to be a big one. Oh, man, that was going to be a big one. Hey, no, that's something pretty decent, I thought. I was going to do it again, but no, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that for you? But yeah, no, art was about that stuff.

Like, that's hilarious though. It's like, hey, this might impact you playing. Well, you were kind of nervous about it, right? You were telling me that had you in the tight fit. And you're like, oh, man, I don't know about this. And they gave you like a little lacrosse penny. Yeah, they gave me like a little like, you know, one of them like, you know, like, loose practice jersees to cover myself over with him.

I'm like, man, they want me to get up in this little slim stuff right here. You know, I'm not in. Back good of shape. Yeah, yeah. We're ready. We're ready. Yeah, yeah, we're ready. That whole process with you doing that is fucking.

wild. They can't wait for you to write a book. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, dude, speaking of other players like Russell Wilson, have you seen this stuff with Odell Beckham Jr? The plane incident? Yes. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Have you, do you know who KFC is?

KFC? One minute man on Barstow. Yeah, he's always doing like one minute rants on Barstall sports. This person's acting like this, and he gives his opinion on it, and he just lets it live on the internet. I might have seen something on Twitter one time, but I haven't really, no, not really. I don't really know too much about it.

So he has this rant saying this is the biggest, you've seen the video more recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was talking about, like, O'Dell, how it seemed like he was asleep. He was, like, asleep because he came straight from the club to get on the plane after Thanksgiving. He's sleeping on the plane didn't necessarily put on a seatbelt,

wasn't like following orders or whatever. And so then they had, it seems like, what, the police or fired a department. Paramedics, they're like, if he's going to refuse help, we can't give him help. Yeah, because they're saying he's, like, unresponsive to. It's, like, basically he's, like, sleep

and he's not really wanting to engage with, like, putting the seatbelt on in first class, because he's, like, laying down, the seat's fully, like, laying down. So they came over to ask him, do you know where you're at? He says, yeah, they're like, I mean, he knows where he's at.

And they're like, is his pants on? Because apparently, I guess he had his pants off at first. Like, all his pants are on now, and they're like, oh, how do we go about this? And they were trying to get him, I guess, ultimately put on his seatbelt, I think. That's what it was. And just, like, follow the directions.

And, like, we're going to have to de-board everybody off the plane if you're not willing to cooperate. And he wasn't, like, trying to talk to any of the, workers. So they end up debboarding everybody off the plane. He flames, he fires off on some like old white dude. Because Odell claims he was saying everything but the inward to him. He's like, this shit don't matter to me, dude. He's like, I'll be on a private plane while you guys got to get back on this plane and it starts flaming him. You know, some nice humor with it, some nice

man. He's like, enjoy the cheeseboard afterwards. So that's basically the idea of what happened. And now everybody's got an opinion on it. Me, I'm thinking, bro, just put on the seatbelt. Yeah. Like, you might be tired. Like, let's just say all of that is true. He comes from the club, he gets on the plane. I get your sleepy. Like, we've all had like, where you're grog and shit like that. But we're talking about D-Bord and the plane. And then he sat there until everybody gets off the plane.

So everybody's like, he's like, I'm just going to chill here until everybody gets on the plane. Everybody's got to take their bags out of the fucking overhead and get off the plane. And there's a level of like Odell where I'm knowing O'Dell for the few times I've been around O'Dell, he doesn't seem like that kind of guy. Yeah. He doesn't seem like a dude that would make that stuff happen because it's a great, like, because he wants to because he thinks he's Odell.

But if I'm him in that situation, even if I'm, I am fucked up, and I was at the club, and I had to get in the plane. I'm thinking, hey, people, this is going to be a story. I actually put this damn seatbelt on. Right. That's what I'm thinking. Like me, I'm just thinking, yeah, just put the seatbelt on, bro. Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't know.

I can't really speak how somebody's going to react, especially with, you know, all the stuff he's going through, being in the media and people portray him as one thing, and New York's got to defend himself. And he being out in Miami, you know, living his life and then get on the plane and fall asleep, and all of a sudden you wake up, and there's cops and everybody just looking at you.

I mean, you don't know how, I mean, everybody can react different. Right. So I think he was just like, dang, like, what's going on? Like, what is it now? Right, right, right, right. So by that time, you, you think you in a deep suit, you're waking up, you was like, whoa, what's going on? You got a fact, you got a, you know,

you know, some kind of realization of what's going on. And, you know, I mean, I can't tell how nobody, how anybody's going to react, but, you know, all that's going on and all you're doing this flying to fall in asleep. Because ultimately all you got is like, you know, the tweets we see, right? Social media, four-minute video. It's not like we have all the... But then I think if, you know, once he woke up and what I was going on,

at that point he probably already knew it was going to be out. Because, I mean, phones and everybody gets a hold or get a video or something. He already knew at that point. So he's like, I mean, it is what it is. But say you know you're in the media big and you had, they're like, whatever the perceptions are, they get painted, yada, yada. Like, you almost just think, okay, I need to almost over-creas. correct the other side, just so everybody knows, like,

be super compassionate. Yeah, be super compassionate. Hey, yeah, yeah, fuck, everybody put their back, you know, hey, everybody put their bags up. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm going to put the seatbelt on. Can we fly this plane? Yeah.

Yeah. You got that on. Hey, everybody put your bags back on. Oh, you didn't get up. Yeah. All right. But then, at the same time, but then, you know, they take him off the plane, but then you hear the police say,

yeah, he's playing song, he's aware. Right. He was asleep. He probably just tired. He was like, what do y'all want us to do? I mean, like, he's aware, he's alert. I mean, then they were saying that he wasn't putting a seatbelt on. But at that time, I felt like he wasn't doing anything wrong.

I felt like, you know, at that point, he was just like, I just want to fly and go home. Yeah. And it's like, well, what do you guys want to do? It's like, well, let's ask him one more time. Let's just, hey, can you put the seatbelt on so we can take off? But if he wasn't putting a seatbelt on, then it's just like, I mean, I mean, it's on you at that point.

You just like, yeah, also, like, we've been on plane. Yeah. Like, when you play football, like you get on the plane, you're sitting there, and then all of a sudden the plane's taking off, like, oh, fuck, I'm off of my seatbelt on.

If I'm on the plane and I don't feel like getting off, I'm gonna go to a cup, I don't know what I'm gonna go? We can go. Right, there we can fly, you know what, you know what? You know what? You know what you want?

You know what you do? Do what you do? I'm trying to get what you're trying to go. We're going to let them go about their business. You know what I'm trying to de-escalate the situation, but, you know, I don't know how everybody else is doing. I didn't know how the internet works. I wonder they should have just waited for him to fall back asleep

and then like buckle them up. Like, kind of like just grabbed them. Hey, hey, he's good. Just go. Just fucking go. Yeah, like. So then my question, I don't think that somebody could have did that

just made it like, you've been in like this ease and put the seatbelt on because you could have did that quickly. If he was out, he probably wouldn't have felt that anyway. Right, right, right. Like just.

Because there's been time with that. Yeah. Pull out your phone, take a little phone. It got him. Especially when you got the pot. Because I didn't have been on the pause. Once you lay back, you'll be out, and it's been time I have food, plates, and I wake up and everything gone. So it'd be easy to put the seatbelt on and just, let's take all.

Yeah, we'll have to get Odell on. O'Dell needs to come on the podcast. Talk through it. Talk through that. We're ACL brothers, dude. We got our ACLs like the same week or like six days apart, so he's got to come on. You guys ever, like, talk or connect over A. That was the first one.

That was the first one where, yeah, he got done by the same person I got done the first time. We would, like, talk. Like, how's your surgery going? Oh, mine's great. How's your going? And then there was, like, a level of us. both like pretending like everything was great. Yeah.

And then both of us had 2021 the way it was. With Joe Dell, he was balling, and then it all of a sudden just didn't work anymore, right? The Super Bowl happened and he just... Remember that they're talking about the turf field? Yes. What are your thoughts on playing on turf fields? Man, it's the same sentiment as like...

I got hurt on turf field, so you know how I feel about it. There's been so many injuries that's happened on turf fields. I mean, it's just proven. I mean, it's not really good for the league and, you know, for our bodies. You ask any player in the league about turf, they're just like, it's not going to be an automatic answer. They're going to think about it. Like, no.

And there's so many people that's been like, you're rid of turf fields that, you know, I think it's a time where it's all playing on grass. Right. But at the end of the day, it's the NFL. So it's all about business. So you're telling me, you know, how owners are the thing. You're telling me I got to pay you and then pay to keep the field going, whether I can just put turf out, have a football game, but I got a maintenance of field. which I know it's probably a headache,

but the end of the day, players are the ones that, you know, brain. Your best players are going to hurt, you're not going to have brain. You know what? The NFL's going to push, though,

we're all about player safety. Yeah. And that's something. And then that's like the narrative that they're following that narrative, then that's something where they should listen to them. Yeah, really,

I think for players, and I think we're just trying to see people get hurt on turf. Right. And it's just been proven people getting hurt over and over again. And I think when players fell on turf, they're probably what they think about. Like, man, I hope,

you know, come out the game healthy. You're just tired of seeing people get hurt, especially people you see work so hard, get where they're at, and then get, you know, get hurt, especially like, we're talking about Odell, coming off of ACL, and then work all his way back

and got to Super Bowl and got hurt again on turf. You know, you don't want to see that, so, you know. What's crazy, too, is the players are even talking about before the game. We hit out on CJ, CJ Uzama from the Bengals. And he was like, even before the game, they're talking about that middle of the field area

where... He's on the Jets now? Yeah, he's on the Jets now. He was on the Bengals when they were at the Super Bowl. That was nice heads-up play, though, for Will. That could have been real bad. Yeah, it could have been bad. But he was saying before the game, they were all out there walking,

talking about, like, hey, make sure, you know, you be careful around this area because it felt a little loose, like with the turf. Yeah. But hold on now, Taylor. Yeah. Seattle last year, warming up before the game. Yes. Turf.

We did, and there is video footage. You would be hitting that little hyper extension-looking deal. On turf. Yeah, like the turf deal is, and Buffalo this year. Yeah. Turf. Yeah, what was that? Second play, first play?

First play of the game. That's the, yeah. Play action passed. Bad look. But did I read that, um, look, man. Somebody out from the rafts and said, wow. I was out there crying, too. Did I read MetLife Stadium is going to turf, I mean, going to grass, moving from

turf to grass, MetLife Stadium, the Giants and the Jets. Oh, they are. That's a big win. People got to do what the Cardinals are doing. They got the roof that's retractable and on it The raiders. They have like on a grit. The Raiders do that too.

I mean, I'm not sure to do that, but they have a dorn with grass. Yeah. I think the Texans had at one point, but they went to turf. I think it's just a maintenance thing about it. I had to pay and keep the turf up. You have people on the staff.

Yeah. Hurtleizer. Yeah. People trimming that shit all the time. It's just about keeping the grass up. Yeah. Because there's a level of like when you play at Nissan Stadium, like the grass is fine in the middle of the season.

But then end of the season, there's the music city bowl. There's a whole bunch of concerts and all this stuff. TSU plays on it. And so by the end of the year, you're playing on, like, the Oakland Radio Stadium, like, all in that fucking interview. I remember one point. I forgot what, what, what year it was, but they had spray paint in the field.

And it felt like we were playing on ice. Oh, hit the ground. I'm like, man, whoa. That last game. Yes. I'm like, whoa. I know, dude. It would be one thing if the owners were just like, hey, the maintenance, the cost,

yada, yada, and just played that. But if they, the way they talk about player safety, it's like, okay, well, then listen to your players. Even, even as simple, simply practice, we enjoy going inside. we enjoy going inside like when it's cold as fuck but we're like fuck we gotta play on the turf yeah we gotta practice on turf

yeah I'm saying joints feel worse after playing on turf but to play devil's advocate I remember like going on the turf when you're young you don't even realize like older dudes

would be talking about and you'd be like my shit feels fine what are you talking about exactly yeah even like this past year when we go on the turf I'm like I really want to go on the turf

because I know I'm gonna feel the next two days but low key in practice I would be like man I kind of feel really good out here springy springy yeah Yeah, you definitely look fast on turf for sure.

Way fast. You'd be like, you're flying on turf. Yes. That's for sure. Like when you're in like high school and stuff, you play on a turf field. You're like, oh, man, we're fucking playing on the turf field. Yeah, exactly. In high school, yeah.

In high school, yeah. You had one? No, no, not high school. I'm saying when you go to play on one, you're like, oh, oh, yeah, they're legit. You think they're so legit for sure. Oh, man. But it's so crazy, like, the level of thinking as you get older and like, your body and the game, it's like in high school, an injury,

like it was nothing and all that type of stuff. And then playing on turf, it's just crazy how like your logic of thinking changes as you get older than the game. And then it's not going to go away back. Like, give us some grass. Give us some grass.

But in high school, you're like, man, we got grass with our field. We suck. Like, ours just not cool. Even in college, were you tripping about turf, really? No.

No. That's what I'm saying. Michigan's the field's on turf all the time. Every single game. Every single game. But that goes to just show you the level and the, physicality of the NFL to college and, you know, leading up, it's way different.

Yes. You got to. That's a good point. It is way different. And that everyone's just faster and stronger. People always ask me about college to the NFL. I'm just like, bro, NFL is not in day different. It's not the same game.

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What? You just see it. College is fast out there. It's not the same. Not the same. I mean, the SEC was, I mean, it was the closest thing to it, but it's just not the same, real. It's not the same.

You were playing a big 10 team? Like the... Hold on, Derek. You said some fighting words there. You were playing some big 10 opponents. We play a little differently up north. Yeah. The bit...

You would have thrived in Michigan. That's why... I mean, the teams I played mainly was in the SEC. Okay. I can't speak on the big 10 or any other conferences. I didn't play them all the time. You played one big 10 team. Wisconsin.

Michigan State. 38. Zero. Wisconsin was like 35, 13. We played Ohio State. Ohio State. We played Ohio State in the college playoffs. They beat us.

Yeah, you guys went out again. Play the Ohio State in the playoffs and they beat us. Yeah. They won't, that's the championship. They did Ohio State. Oh, now we want to say Ohio State. We need this. How the fuck do these other Power Five conferences

compete with the SEC? Like, you are, you're the reason why. Like, players like you are the reason. while we can't catch a fucking break. Poor TCU's looking at their wounds right now. That game... It was disgusting. Blood bad.

And the only good thing I can take from it is they beat them worse than Michigan last year. So I feel a whole lot better about it, you know? Yeah, but it was just crazy to watch that game. Because I'm just like, when I watched TCU against Michigan, I'm like, okay, they got some physicality to them. They play hard, like on defense. I'm like, okay, then the quarterback, he's tough.

13 on defense for TCU, that lineback was flying around. He's jacked up, too. You know, running back I heard 33, which he's nice, but number three for them, he played well, too, when he went down. But I just thought TCU, I mean, they were physical. They wouldn't, I didn't think they were going to lay an egg or lay down. Then I watched the game. I was like, oh, man.

And I said, oh, man, again. I was the closest it got. Oh, man. Yeah, or it seemed competitive. I legit had that game on for the first quarter. What are your thoughts from that game? I think Michigan would have done better. No, no.

What are your thoughts from the arguments and conversations that we've had about SEC and all that type. So what are your thoughts? And then I'm coming to you next because you've been in there. We understand the question. We know what you're at. We're what the fuck you're asking. We slow down. Ask us the question you want to ask. Obviously we are a pro Bay 10 podcast and we look at the SEC as the enemy.

You guys won. You guys won this year and you've won frequently over the last 15 years. But that's the SEC is the best conference in college football. No question right now. No question. My word.

is how the hell do we get these studs out of the southeast and bring them up north? We got those some money at them, boys. NIL deals. Hang on now. Now, it is also not fair that the SEC was doing NIL deals before they were legal. Like that is, that's something.

I don't know about all that. I remember the last five of you know it. Hey, that's a historic quote, pay me in rings. So it still lives on to this day. Still lives on to this day. Did you ever like look at that? because that shit was blowing up.

Everybody's like, man, why are his teammates pressing him like this? Yes. I just seen the locker room conversation. I've seen like a Bema, a pam page or something, like post something like me. Put it in the Coliseum,

pay me in rings, you know what I'm saying? That's, that's a little quotes. You can use a slogan you can use. It's Iowa. Kentucky. Yeah.

What was? They lost? They lost. I mean, I don't see. Kentucky was real. Bud DePree was saying Kentucky's real this year. Outside of Georgia and I don't really say Alabama anymore.

Why? They fell off big this year. But bro, I'm going to keep it real. I'm going to keep it real, though, and I'm just going to say this. Last year, Georgia played Michigan. Yes. Was it close? No.

Not close. Now was 2021? Yeah. The year before that, that would play a higher state and national championship was it closest? 52-24. That doesn't seem what he was going to. You didn't really give us time to answer that question either.

And I was trying to thank the year before that. Clemson? Is it Clemson? Oh, Clemson played LSU. About that turn out. That was, I mean, but I'm just saying. I'm in the SEC. All right, ACC now.

What's it, was it one year when Clemson play Ohio State in the playoffs? I think it was like in the Fiesta Bowl. Oh, LSU won because that was Joey B. That's on us. That's on us. I knew that LSU won that. I knew that LSU won that. I knew the best college football team of all time.

That's on us. Is that the best college football team of all time? One of them. I think Nebraska in the 90s. Nebraska. But I will say... Look up the stats. I will say Ohio State held it down against Georgia this year. That was a good game.

That was a good game. They played well. Yeah. I know. That's what made it seem like Georgia was human. We were so close to seeing Ohio State versus Michigan in the national championship. We were?

Yes. I will say this for Michigan. That was a touchdown. I don't understand how they didn't call that. I don't know what that was. That was a touchdown on me. I don't know. Yeah, we've said on this podcast already.

You can't spot them two pick sixes and a quarterback running back exchange for a turnover. You can't do that. And they still almost, they still almost came back. That was tough. That was tough. Is it fair to say that Georgia's Alabama's daddy now in the SEC? Bro. You're going to really.

You're going to look at me in my face. Smile at me and ask me that question. You got that much confidence to ask me that. Yeah, bro. To say Georgia. You got to show your teeth. to talk. All right, hang on.

Let me, let me change it out. No, no, no, no. The question is already out there. The question's already out there. Let them. Let them rephrase it. We just played Georgia. No, no, no, no.

You are asking the question. No, no, no. We're good. We're good. You asked that with confidence, so I'm going to kill that confidence, all right? We just played Georgia last year in the national championship. Georgia's Alabama Stadium.

They won right. And we beat them previous, that same year, in the SEC championship. We had both of our receivers, John Metchie and Jameson Williams. John Metschie goes down with ACL. And then Williams goes down with ACL in that game. Bro, I mean, who is Bryce going to go and throw to in that game?

Two natties in a row now. Said again? Two natties in a row now. I'm not taking anything away from Georgia. But I'm saying we had went previous that year. We just won it in 2020, and we went back in 2021. Georgia won it last year

and they won it this year. We've won it 2009. 2012. 2015. 2011, too. Oh yeah, 2011. I'm sorry. 9-11.

12. No, no, 9-11, 12. 15. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 15. It's right here. 17. No, I don't want to look.

15. 17. Crimson. 20. and... That's it. You guys haven't been good to... You guys haven't been against this 20-20.

Stop. I'm just looking at the stats. We just won the SEC championship last year, bro. Georgia is king shit in the SEC right now. Okay, let me rephrase it. Would it be fair to say that Georgia is the king of the SEC? No, bro. Right now, bro.

They are playing great football. They are the two-time defending champs. No, I'm saying. But I'm saying for the last two-time, years, they've been outstanding. Okay, how about this? We have sustained that standard for 10 years, for 10

years. I just think when somebody's on top and being on top for so long, they can't wait for somebody to just come in and just take over. But we, Alabama's not going to where, I'm sorry to say. We're not going to work class this year. How about this? How about this? There you go.

Is Kirby Smart the best head coach in the SEC? bro, stop, stop, bro. No, no. Who was Kirby Smart under before he went to Georgia? I'm assuming Nick Staven. You were assuming Nick Savening?

You're assuming Nick Saban's lived longer. Doesn't mean any. Yeah. Nick Saban is really just old. That's why he's successful. Think so? I mean, it seems like he's really falling off last year. He's because of 20.

Because the start of this decade. Would it be fair to say that in 2022, Georgia was the king of the SEC? Oh, no. Can't live with that, no. Okay, how about this? So you're dying with your, you're dying with your pride, which we can respect. We can do one more question, though. Is it fair to say, since 2020, Georgia has owned the SEC?

No, bro. No, bro. That's 2020. People are more scared to play Alabama. We played Georgia that year in 2020 and killed them. You think, bro, how are you going to say that, bro? You said, you said they're a king of the SEC 2020? They're scared of the dogs.

Yeah, the dogs, bro. And nobody is scared of an adult anymore. You said the king of SEC since 2020. We beat them twice in 2020, right? In 2020, right? We beat on twice in 2020, right? You're a mascot as an elevator, bro. We played a resident season at SEC.

We beat them twice then, right? I know that the... Yes. No, no, we did because it was the SEC schedule in 2020 because of COVID, and they came to them and we beat them. So we beat them twice in 2020, right? We beat them in 2021, SD championship.

They beat us a national championship. We didn't play, we didn't play this year. Would you rather have an SEC championship or a national championship? Answer the question. What did you ask you what? Okay. Okay. That's no question.

What I'm saying? Yeah, but we were still there. They, yeah, they won. But so you're telling me, after watching that game on Monday night, you were like, what is this? They shouldn't have been there. That's what everybody was saying. TCU?

Oh, absolutely. That's what I'm saying. And it's no, not a TCU, but it's just like they, I mean, it wasn't no comment. You're saying Bama should have been in it. Tennessee should have been in the National Championship. We lost about field goal. Yeah, lost.

Lost. Lost. Horse used and hand grenades. That's the only time of close matters. It's okay. I lost when I was that, man. We still won national championship show. We lost, um,

Ole Miss. That was Ole Miss? Yeah. Artie toddy. That was a crazy game. Do you wish that your mascot was a dog over an elephant? No, never, bro. You like elephants?

No, but elephant's biggest animal in the jungle, boy. What else you know about them? Are they in jungles? Huh? They go in jungles? In the jungle, baby. You're in the jungle, baby. In the jungle, man.

You have good memories, too. What's a better mascot than an elephant? None. A wolverine? None. Dog. You don't even have a... Do you y'all have a mascot?

We did in the 80s, and it died, okay? And then it became... You guys are... You guys are Wolverines. With the Wolverines. Wolverines. There's a taxi Jimmy one sitting in the Schembeckler Hall right now. But either way it goes,

Marry's proud of our Bevan Boys, man. We came up a little bit short, but we finished the season strong. One thing about us, we're just going to go back to work, that everybody talk, and then come out and do what we do. I mean, because when I was there, my freshman year, we lost to... Is that when you were getting paid? No, never got paid.

I told you. That was to go to the school. I was earning my rings. Doing a good job. My first year, we lost to Auburn to kick 60. We ended up losing to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl. Then my second year, we lost to Ole Miss, and then we ended up losing the high-of-state in playoffs.

In my third year, we lost the Ole Miss again. We went our championship and the SEC championship. So it's like, you know, you can have times where... What was your first year? 2012? 2013. Success is in a straight line. Not always, man.

Not always. It's not always. You know, Georgia had to work their way to get there. You know what I'm saying? But we... Hang on their way to get where? To win two in a row. To be on top.

To be on top. Yeah, because they won the national championship. Kings. The one last championship. Nain the Kings, no, real. Nah, y'all saw, y'all saw, we got, we need it. You all saw, people are going to be in this tab.

They've got to do it again. Y'all saw Coach Saban whenever. Yes, dude, that was crazy. Who is it? Who is the, David Pollock was like, Georgia is, like, the team in the SEC. Yeah, and you literally see Nick Saban look down like this. You can see him thinking that mental note.

Mental note. All right, bet. This is the rat poison we needed. This is the rat poison we needed. Do you guys think you're going to be next year? Sure. Who's going to be your quarterback? Who's going to be your quarterback?

Probably it'd be an open competition, I think. Oh, that is spicy. It'll be an open competition, but I think, at betterment, that's how it always is, unless you just come in and just establish yourself right away, and it's just, it's no question. But I think it'll be an open competition until somebody just takes it over,

which I think it'll go until camp is over. Yeah. They'll go through spring and do all that and go through A-Day. How's it feel they have two Bama guys on top of the league and rushing? That's always nice, man. You know, and that- Last game, right? There was three going in the last week, and then you ended up getting them.

I was three. But, yeah, man, this aspire. R-B-U. I mean, you can't really, people always try to argue this. Them is R-B-U, bro. Yeah, you guys come a long way from Trent Richardson. I was going to say, you have. Don't do true.

That is tainted. Don't do Trump like that. No, I like that. We were in the an armor game together. We were, yeah, he is a stud. Yeah. And he had off-the-field deals or something going on. But this is not a disrespectful comment.

He was a bus. Demma is RBU for sure. T.Y. Hilton. For sure. Yeah. Who competes with that? Who competes with you guys at R.B.U.? Wasn't he?

Not, T.J. Yelden. T.J. L.D. Georgia. Georgia. Georgia. Ohio State Wisconsin

Wisconsin's got some You remember that You've seen firsthand what happens With Wisconsin running backs Yeah No lube No I want you to know

I wasn't coming at I guess I was coming at Trent Richardson So He threw him in the bus column He is like objectively If you looked at him He is a bust

Now I've been around him A couple times I enjoyed him I think he's a great guy For whatever happened Just didn't work out in the league but he's a bust. It's how it happens sometimes, you know,

stuff like that happens, and you just got to move on. We all wanted to go, but we plan, but don't go like that. He's still a dog, man. He was dog in college. Everybody knows, you know,

he rich was a dog. He was an elephant. He was an elephant. For sure. You were, uh, I do want to circle back. Got that dog in him. Got that dog in him.

I do want to circle back. I didn't see what you did. He said to my dog. Oh, uh-oh. when you got hurt last year, what was that? No, no, no, I do want to speak on, you said, having two

Bevanbacks in the top two. Yeah, proud of Josh, he worked for it, went crazy. I got to watch his game against the 49ers, which is part of the best defense in the league. He was killing them. He didn't have a lot of yards, but he was going crazy.

Very proud of Josh, man. And, you know, I think he earned everything he got this year. I know they didn't pick up his fifth year option this past year, so I know that was motivation. Yeah. Proud of Josh, man.

you know, RBA, Bama built, Roll the Tide, we know what it is. Do you think he'll be at the Raiders next? Yeah, Naji Harris, Kenyon doing this thing. Oh, yeah, Naji is Bond too. Mark, yeah, you guys do have a lot of good men. Mark Angrim. And then, holding it down for a while.

Yeah, man, proud of them boys, man. You know how we rock out. You guys have some really good fucking backs. Who's the back for the Saints? Alvin Kamara. And Mark Andrew. He was at. No, but he was at Alabama before.

He was there. We all came, we all came. We all came. We all came in together. Man. Crazy. Most underutilized back in college football history. Who?

Alvin Kamara. Probably his first year and then he left and went to junior college. When he went to Tennessee, it went crazy. That's what he was still underutilized. People really didn't know about him like that. At the time, right? Jalen heard. But Alvin was a dog at Tennessee.

What? Went crazy. He went crazy. He was going to do what he was in the league when he was in college. Yes. What are you talking about? You not see him at Tennessee? Yes.

You don't fucking do that. We have talked about this, be like he was underutilized. I knew my dog. He said he was a dog at Tennessee, bro. He was a dog, but I, all right. I digress. You know, when we play them,

when dogs, when dogs, that someone looks stupid as fuck. You know what dog is that to see? I'm not obviously going to cut it. Jack, literally last week was even kind of saying that, but I guess now at Derek's on.

He switched up. No, but when, uh, but, uh, Speaking of Speaking of Tennessee And when I was at Tennessee We played them in 15

They almost beat us It was a close game It came down to the wire They were good now He was balling Really if it wasn't for the game Cocks They'd be in that College Bowl playoffs

Yeah that game was wild A boy went crazy And then him didn't get hurt I hate to see that Dude it sucks I saw him in L.A. When you guys put the Chargers I went down there to get checked up

And he was like Super positive guy What's the back of his name? Joe Milton Well he's nice He watched the ball game He's going to transfer from Michigan He's nice now

He's nice Good like literally once he went down And came in and finished He needs to go back to Michigan He nice Does he have another year? I want him back Is he not

Is he done? He's going back He's going back to Tennessee Yeah Oh he nice bro He was a starter before And then he was like Overthrowing

Oh yeah Not no more Dialed in Yeah not no more That boy nice Quarterback controversy in Tennessee He is big Bro

He's a big dude You think he feels so farther than that. No, when he was throwing it, it looked like he was just like, right. I bet we're going. He's nice, bro. He's nice, bro. Hey, come on, Jim. Arm ball.

You don't like JJ? I like J.J. a lot. But I like competition. No, no, no, I like competition. I think competition makes the best out of all. It's iron sharp and iron. Who would you want to be a starting quarterback in Michigan if he went there? If Joe Milton went there?

Yeah. Like, who would you want to be the, I would want to see them compete in whoever the best one is would come out better. Hopefully. Hopefully, whoever does thinks it's a national championship and wins it. I guess who would you hope comes out on top of that quarterback battle? Oh, I think I would hope the better player came out on top. You're just wanting to get on your hands and knees for fucking Joe Milton and go to Michigan.

But then it's like, oh, get in the quarterback battle. Yeah, I mean, unless Joe's afraid of competition. Why go to Michigan and compete when you can just start in Tennessee? I mean, unless you're offering, you, why not try and be great? Hey, guys, I'll give them empty promises. Yeah, but it is cool switch up sometimes. It's like your hair. Do you think

I was... We want to talk about your hair. It is so crazy because at first people were making fun of my hair. Oh, it looks like this. It looks like that. It's what I'm going to take it down.

But now that I take it down, get the hair back. It's your super power. I'm like, bro, shut up. Be quiet. Now, I will say this. Shut up and be quiet. What are the best...

Hits look harder on you with your hair down. Yes. Because your hair flies everywhere. Yeah, because it flies. Yeah, but sure. Yeah. Because I think somebody,

I'm not going to say who was like, I think they're saying harder hits this year. And I was like, bro, I think it's his hair just flying around more. It's definitely my hair. The first one that comes to my head is the Giants game, this first game. Yeah, that was. I wonder who was blocking on that play.

You made me look really bad. Who was blocking on that play? You look really bad on that play. Was it 77? I think it was. It wouldn't have been 77. Definitely a white guy with tattoos. The baris were kind of, you know.

I don't know. What made? The linebacker slipped and back doort him and then. Yeah. Yeah, that was tough for the individual. But at the back would have just be that. I was looking this way. I seen the safety.

I was jumping over or somebody on the ground. I'm not looking straight. The rest is history, but I ain't going to complain. I got back up and continued to play. When you saw one of your teammates with the Dark Viser on, did you think, wow, it looks really cool. I want to do that, too? I always saw Dark Baza on was cool when I seen

with Daniel Thompson where. I always wanted to wear one because I saw him. It had nothing to do with an office alignment on your team that wore it? No, not at all. Sorry to save it. Oh, you're saying he wanted to get the Dark Viser. Oh, my God, Will. Bro, he is really like that.

He just does... Derek got that. I am like that. I am. I am him. Yeah. I am him. Let's talk about the season.

Hang on. I thought I had a question. Okay, go ahead. This is exactly who said we weren't going to do, but go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember. That's fucking tough. Oh, oh, oh.

What were the best, like, jokes you got with what your hair looked like? Because I know you're thinking of them. You just said, you know, like this, like that. Like, the other day, somebody's like, you know, Derek doesn't have the turd hanging out of the helmet anymore. Like, what are the best ones? I think you know that. That's why you asked that question.

and you just said one of them a motherfucker. That's why you said that. What is you hear from your boys or anybody personally? You know, I heard it all. Taylor knows. He wasn't been saying. He just waited for a moment to laugh. He's eyes so big.

He'd wait for a moment to laugh. It was all the jokes. But, you know, I welcome, I welcome, I'm all. I was bawling doing my things. Yeah. I didn't really care. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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That was my question. You were doing that thing. All right, so the season, obviously it's hard to be a running back in this league. You just said how hard it is, like from college to NFL. it's got to be equally as hard when injuries happen in front of you. Like Ben Jones went down this year. Ben Jones never goes down. He's always there.

Yeah, I went down. Nate went down. We had Dylan for 10 seconds in the Chargers game. He went down. Who else? Brewer, our smallest guy, made it through the whole entire season, unscathed, it seems like. How was that, like, was there a time, obviously not coming at the players at all?

But for you being, like, frustrated, like, damn. Because how we do has a lot to do with your success. Obviously, you're still bald. Yeah. But I'm saying, does that, like, affect, there's got to be a level of frustration for you during the season when you see guys going down over and over again? Not really a frustration for me,

but I just feel frustrated for my teammates. Everybody that went down. Because I see y'all, and as far as you, you know, working your way back and excited for the season, you know, we have our talks and we do all that. And just to see it in how quickly it did, frustrated for you because I know how much you love this game and you know how much you love

playing ball and you know all the success that you had and then we've been the same thing you know we're all like brothers you know family we've been together for so long and to see all y'all just you know go down and not be able to finish the season and do the things that we've always done throughout the season it would just that that was part of the tough part but to me I just try to focus on you know what what I need to do to help us win and and do all that which it was different because different bodies, you know, new guys. Yeah, everybody's different. So, but it was definitely tough this year just because it was so many different guys just coming in and, you know,

trying to pick up, you know, our scheme and, you know, style we play. And in the doubt those guys try to do the best job they can to fill in for y'all. But, I mean, it was still tough because we, you know, chemistry, you know. How does this change the way you run the rock? Like, has it changed, like, yeah, all that stuff's awesome. You're, like, the best to do it. It's like, how does that change the way you go out there and play? Like, if you're trying to get to no lineman, you're talking about chemistry and everything else,

is it things that you got to more so look at on film or talk to lineman? Or is it just always, like, a field thing for you? No, I'm always going to play the same, I think, you know, I think watching y'all and being in the room with y'all and knowing the style we want to play and, you know, how we are with the run game. I feel like they, you know, got to, you know, Gramps of it from y'all being around y'all. So I play the same.

I don't try to worry about who's blocking this and that. You got your job and I'm going to do mine. Yeah. It doesn't take your eyes anywhere differently? No, no. I'm just trying to put myself in your shoes. I'm like, okay, if there could be, you know, some. No, because I'm, I'm going to take my eyes here on this.

I'm basically looking at the, because I'm too busy looking at the look at the deepest is given, so I don't really, you know, everybody got their job. But, yeah, I mean, it was definitely tough. Well, Devin plays because it's a difficult offense to run for an offensive alignment. It's a unique offense that like four or five offenses in the league do. But like it all depends on stretch. Like if one guy gets more stretched than another, you have to cut back plays faster. Now that's a reaction thing for you, but

that does like I could see myself in your shoes getting frustrated because it's like damn, I want to do so well. Like I see you and how you work and how you handle yourself on a day-to-day basis inside the building. It's like Derek wants to be great. Every like he just wants to be great and he wants like them to be like, hey, we're running the ball, and Derek's running the ball, and this is why we're going to win.

Like, you appreciate and you accept that responsibility. And then if I'm like, you're used to stretching a ball a certain time or a certain amount of steps, and now, like, someone's out so you can't or you can't make that cutback because Ben's not there and the other person in there doesn't have the skill set that Ben does. I can see it being difficult. Yeah, especially because, you know, Ben, you,

you all seen a lot of balls. So guys who come in there, you know, haven't, you know, you know, seeing different looks and things like that and got in that fire like that. So if it's going to be some, it's going to be some adjustments, it's going to be different. Guys can't do what other guys do just because they've been in the system for a long time.

And like you said, it's kind of, it can be hard for some offense alignment if they haven't done it, you know, for a long time, which y'all have. And I understand that. And in the day, I just try to give them confidence to be like, bro, it is what it is. This is what it is. Is what we're going to go out with?

Let's go ball. But at the same time, you know, you know, everybody's skill set is different. But at the end of the day, we all got a job to do And I had a job to do so I'm trying to go out there ball regardless. Yeah. Yeah.

What was it like your first time getting injured? Actually, I don't even know if it was your first actual time getting injured. It's the first time I never got surgery. Really? No, no, no. I had surgery in college. I thought you said this. Oh, it was your first time getting surgery in the NFL?

Yeah. It was tough. You know, I was hurt. You know, it was definitely different for me because it was my first time actually getting surgery during the season and missing the whole season. That's never happened before. Yeah.

So that was. different and I was just like I had to take a grasp of that and come to a realization of what happened and you know it was tough because watching games and you know just being at the house and watching y'all play then that was the toughest part because I wanted to be a part of that and nothing like that never happened before like I said with me being out for the whole season and trying to work my way back and doing everything I can to get back kind of kind of made me sit back can, you know, look at things different and, like, see, you know, thinking of different, everything in a different light as far as what's going on

and everything around me. And people change, too, so it's different, you know. You feel like, you feel like it was more mentally trying than you thought it would be, then maybe you anticipate, I want to say thought, like, anticipate it. Because I guess, I'm trying to, like, being in your shoes, like, you're part of this team, you got all the boys, you got A.J. Brown, you just got, you. you get Julio, you're like, hey, this is going to be the team where we do it. You ran, um, 2000 a year before.

For 2000 the year before. Now we get an extra game. I'm about to break all. I'm about to break all this stuff. Like, obviously you have personal ambitions and then obviously team ambitions as well. And then it comes to a stop. And then you're going through all that. You're like you're sitting there saying, I sat back and kind of reevaluate and assess things a little bit differently.

Do you feel like those trying times were, you know, harder mentally than you anticipated them being? Yeah, definitely it was mentally. It was tough mentally for real. Because like you said, everything was going and then just stopped. Everything to stop. And all you got to sit there, especially with breaking the bone, time. So, you know, having surgery and then going through that part. And then I think once I got, like, was able to rehab,

this stuff started speaking up a little bit. But mentally, yeah, it was definitely tough because I'm just like, man. I mean, that's all I know. I put so much work and so much time into football. And, you know, when it's the season time, that's all I'm worried about. It's all I'm thinking about. I mean, I love this game. And, you know, for everything to stop, I'm just like, man.

But at the end of the day, I just know how to put faith in the man above and trust what was going on. And, you know, trust his, you know, his journey for me and then work hard to get back. And I was able to get back, which wasn't good enough. but, you know, I was just happy to be able to get back and then work in the offseason and then finish the season, you know, this year with the injury because a lot of guys get the injury and it's tough to come back from. But a lot of guys have came back from it, you know, I reached out to Julio, which he had two surgeries, two surgeries on it and it kind of gave me some encouragement about it.

So it was, yeah, it was tough. It was different, but everybody has a different testament. That's a sad thing. I mean, I remember that. I remember the Colts came and you, going up to you. after that series, I mean, like, you get it. You're like,

I think I fucked my foot up. My foot hurts. That's basically all you said. I played three quarters with a broken foot. Three quarters of the broken foot. I knew something was, I didn't know, I kind of,

I figured it was broke, but I was like, you just don't want to believe it. I'm like, man, my foot. Get the adrenaline guy. It was, it was killing me, though, the whole, the whole game.

I'm like, man, this thing hurting. Walking on it, too. Walking on it. I mean, it was killing me. I knew, like, after the game, I'm like, oh, man.

Then when there, And we got x-rays Bro, that was- The x-ray, his eyes got big I said, what's going on, bro? What was the doctor that guy When his eyes got big? Dr. Petty, it was Dr. Petty.

And he was like... It was like, yeah, you broke your fifth mother's torso which is known as a drone fracture And I was like, okay, when can I get back? He was like, uh, I don't know about that. It might be a while. And I was like, whoa.

Yeah, because you came back in the locker. me and Ben waited for you. The whole walkroom was cleared out and me and Ben were like, we're going to wait for Derek. And he walked back in looking sad. Sad as hell. And I was like, hey, what's up? He just whispered, I'm done.

And then grabbed his towel and went and showered. That was tough, dude. It was tough. Because we, especially Ben and I, there's not a whole lot of accolades we can hang our hat on to be like, this is, like, this is us. And when you were having the year, that was like the fucking year.

you're at like 937 yards. And we're like, dude, we're really getting... We're really... Later in the year... At the end of the year, he was still top five in rushing, or just was six. Jonathan Taylor. I was like nine.

They're talking about Jonathan Taylor being an MVP. I'm like nine. I know, which is crazy because everyone was like, everyone was counting Derek out and we're like, yo, this guy's bawling right now. I know. Going crazy. And we're all like, this is going to be...

Like, it's your success, but we were looking at us like, damn, this is our year. This is the year that we're going to get Derek the record. Yeah. Yeah, man. Bro. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure that was difficult.

Could have been. And two, with the bone, you can't, it can't, it's like, it goes at its own pace. Yeah, no. You can't sit there and rehab, but you can do a little bone stem machine.

24-7. Like, I'm going to take, I'm going to do everything I fucking can to get back. And I'm not known to have patience, but I had to have patience with that. You didn't have a choice with that. Yeah, for sure.

Did you think, was there a possibility you heard it more? Or was it just like, hey, that's a clear fracture. It is what it is. I think I heard it more when I play. I would assume.

Yes. I would assume you heard more about playing. Which is crazy because if you look back, you go, oh, I got to get out of the game right away. Like if that happens, like, if you have the knowledge you do now, you're like, oh, I got to get out right now. And you just let it ride. Because we won.

Yeah, I know. I don't know. You still have, like 68 yards rushing. Yeah, I know. But it was tough sled, but I don't know. I think I still would have played. Did you break one in that game? No.

Thank God. Yeah, I know. You've got to have been a tough look. You've been hopped out. I've been hopping on one leg trying to get to the end zone. I wouldn't have made it at all. It was hurting. Yeah.

You can tell, too, this last game, this year when you played at the Colts and you were balling again, like you were going off. Like, I've never seen, usually when you score, like, we joke all the time, like, it's just big eyes and kind of like, all right, back to the sideline. You know what I'm saying? But, like, when you were watching the game, I think we were texting in a group being like, Derek is legit. I've never seen passion like that from you getting in the end zone.

Everybody said that. It was like, it really was. There was a noticeable difference in you. What's that? I know. Everybody was asking, they was like,

what got into you? You don't your helmet all. I was doing all this. I was just in the moment. I don't know. I was just in the moment. There's got to be some sort of like emotional

when you get hurt somewhere. Because the Indianapolis the stadium is so unique because that's where every single person's NFL journey starts. That is invited to the combine. That's true. You get to go to the combine.

You run there. You look around. You're like, this is a legit NFL stadium. Snickering back there. Yeah. I had to run. Rephrase the question halfway through. I know.

You looked over. I mean, I know. I said, yep. But, like, everyone starts the combine. So for whatever reason, like, everyone has it in their head when they walk out. They're like, this is where it all started for me. And that's where you, one of your seasons was ended. So there's got to be a place you went to before that game because we know how you keep receipts.

We are very aware how you've said in the past. Like, I don't keep receipts, but I remember. That's how you phrased in the last podcast. Yes. Yeah. I definitely wanted to be a different ending than when I got hurt, which still I were hurt,

but I didn't have a great game, so I'm just like, man, I got to go out there and put out a different result this game, and that's just my main focus, and we end up winning, and I played all right. I didn't play. I don't play.

I appreciate you talking about the injury stuff because I just feel like a lot of, like, every probably running back in the world probably looks up to you. And people get hurt. People get hurt or, like, times where it doesn't, make any sense at all.

And it's like, you know, you speaking on it is almost like shedding light, like, hey, these are, these are, like, man, Derek, Derek went through something like this. Yeah, no, it was real. It's like, maybe I'm impatient. He's talking about, oh, I had to be patient. He had to do it too. And you kind of like lean in like, oh, I want to be

like Derek. Yeah, for sure. It was tough. I mean, it was never easy. But you always appreciate the varsity. You know, Versely builds character. It definitely, you know, made me better and, you know, made me tougher if going to something. like that.

She went to the middle of the season when everything was going where I wanted to do and everything to stop. But that's how life. Life is. You know, it stops and you have

bumps in the road. I get over them and try to come out on top at the end of the day. Yeah. Do you ever think about you've had the two, you have the 2000 yard seasons,

you run your ass off, bro. But getting hurt the last time do you ever think about your mortality more now in this league? as you continue to get older? As far as like... It coming, you know, when the ending could be for you

or how many more years you could possibly have in the tank. And then, because usually an injure that end your season, you're like, fuck, man, I guess. It makes you reflect me like, damn, I am human. Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely, you know,

kind of brings you to reality a little bit, especially with, you know, I was having a lot of success, and then everything stopped. And then went to, like, oh, he's getting older. The injury might slow him down. and all the type of stuff. And, you know, it's the different outlook of everything.

Because before it was like, he's the bees, he's this and that. And then it's like, oh, the injury's going to slow him down. He's not the same. But, you know, you just try to block out the noise and then go back to work. But I don't try to put like a limit on how long I want to play or how I'm feeling. You know, I just go play. You know, I love this game. And I'm going to continue to work as hard as I can to play as long as I can.

And when I feel like I'm ready to hang it up and not hang it up, But, you know, every player probably wants to end it on their terms. Sometimes it don't go that way. But like I said, I just put my fate in the man above. And then, whenever it's supposed to end, it's going in. But until then, I'm going to focus on getting better and keep balling and whenever I can to be one of the best in the league and one of the best players on my team to above win.

So that's always a goal, you know what I'm saying? It's a scary thought, like, because you don't want the Titans are going to do a rebuild. build year with you with a lot of good ball left and i just i want so bad you made me laugh so hard just now i look i cried a little bit i shot a texed boy for the i want so badly for the titans to do well and i just hope that they can do whatever they need to do this year to like make sure it's like all right we're a playoff contending a fc south champion team again and i guess a better question is like do you think you do that through the draft or you do that through traits because the

the Rams up until this year, they traded like, we got to win now. Like, you're a generational talent. Derek Henry is a generational talent. How do we make sure Derek doesn't get wasted? Yeah,

I think as far as me, I don't think I need to be the focal point. I think it's like, what do we do on all three phases, especially offense, you know, to, you know,

help the team better and to, play better as an offense as well. And I think you just see what's out there, see what you got to do as far as strategy-wise. Again, this is above my pay grade. But, you know, I just wanted to get back to how we were playing and doing the things that we were doing.

I want to win the championship here so bad and want to bring the first one to Nashville. But at the end of the day, you know, we just got to get, you know, pieces in here to put it all together, all together to make it work. And, you know, hopefully, you know, that happened this off season. And we'll be able to do that, bring some guys in to help us, you know, spring us forward and then make some plays and go out, get back the ball in and doing what we do.

How do you feel? Go ahead. To be successful for the Titans to truly be successful, we can't just be, Derek Henry gets the ball. Like, you need to get touches and you need to get 20, 25 touches a game to be successful. But we have to be able to push the ball down the game. field from an aerial standpoint. What do you think it is, built through the draft trades?

I mean, at the end of the day and what happens, you're under contract. I think you're a tight next year. Like, you guys are both tights next year. I can be the guy who asks the question. But then you got to fix the office line. That is, I think, the number one thing that the Tennessee Times is need to do is to fix the office a line. They need to, if Ben retires, they don't find a center.

They need to find a left tackle. They need to find a right guard if Nate doesn't sign back. You need to hope that Nick Petit develops more from. a rookie and takes a step in the next year. You need a wide receiver. And you got to figure out why the fuck these injuries are happening. It happens once. It's understandable.

Freak things happen in the season. That was crazy. We set the record. We're still the number one scene in the FC South. Now it's like it happens two years in a row. What is happening on that football field for the Titans to be hurt? I don't think it's Mike Vrabble's problem. I think Braves takes his guys that are older and guys are his stud players and he gives

them opportunities to get healthy and stay. stay healthy. But for whatever reason, it's not happening. So why? Why does that happen? You just figure that out. Objectively, there's two areas. There's the strength and conditioning you're in. There's the training room area. Yeah, but I'm saying. Like if you're talking about, if we're, if we're asking questions on, you know, if we want to play armchair GM, then we got to be able to, we got to be able to objectively say, okay, well, what's happening on the field? It's like, well, there's the two areas you look at. Yeah. I don't I mean. I understand what you're saying. Like if you want to go down the road of, you know, hey, do you, do you let go of the strength staff or the training room?

You know what I mean? And I don't think it would be fair to put either of you guys in the situation to say yes or no. I don't think, I think Todd Torsell is a phenomenal trainer, head trainer in this league. I think he's got a great staff. I think Frank is a good strength coach. But maybe bring other people in like you would do in any business to help evaluate. and say, these are things you can do better. These are things you could improve on.

And then you guys give them the reins and the tools and say, all right, now you guys go do these things. I'm not saying you need to replace Frank or Todd or their staff because you do not. I think those are, I like them individually and I think they're good at their jobs. But just going off of what you're saying. Right.

What I was getting at is if we kind of stop there and we kind of play the whole question and then we kind of just let it be in the clouds, then it leaves it up for translation for everybody else out there watching. like, oh, they could be alluding to this. They could be alluding to that. Right. Or, you know, you get into, like, you could bring in. I'm talking about players.

I'm not, yeah. And this whole, like, like Derek said, this is above all of our pay grades. Where this is like, hey, it's not even worth touching. Because I don't know. I don't know how to keep myself healthy, let alone an entire team. So I would say, like, look at, like, how do we get players in? Because if you look at our roster in camp, starting day one of camp, it's a good roster. we have good players.

You're missing AJ Brown. Hindsight's 20-20. We missed on that. That sucks. I'm sure John will like to take that back if he could. I'm sure there's the actual truth that both sides are embellishing to help themselves a little bit better. Yeah. But obviously you wish AJ Brown was on this team.

But our roster wasn't bad looking at all. We had a solid office line on the roster with a good right-to-cum competition going on. Our defense, our front seven, was incredible. our back end you had Roger McCreary who's a young guy but bald this year did well for a rookie like I don't know if he was on any all rookie teams but he should have been and then you have Hooker and KB and Hooker got hurt too this year and Fulton and Fulton who also got her he missed how many games six games I'm not sure yeah he missed he missed a handful of games yeah but I'm saying like you look at the the week one roster not the week one

roster the going into camp roster I think a good team how do you keep guys healthy, but who do you get? Like, you got to fix you a lot. That's the number one thing. Yeah, I mean, as far as like, you know, what's happened these past few years with, these two years with injuries, I think it's just an evaluation of everybody,

what can we all do better to improve, you know, the organizations, you know, through players and how we play and the injuries and just for everybody, except evaluation, what can I do to help, you know, us be better as whole. And I think that's, that is needed because these past two years it's been, it's been rough with injuries and, you know,

those type of things. And we just never had like a series of where, you know, we had a couple games where we had everybody and everybody felt good and everybody was healthy. So it's just like, how can we get to that? How are these teams sustaining, you know, keeping their players, you know, throughout the whole season? How does Roger Saffold get injured a whole bunch of the Titans

and goes to the Buffalo Bills? and has not injured the whole season and plays well. He's been balling this year. He's been balling this year. Right? And he's a year older with less tread on the tires again. And this is not me coming out the tires because I am, everybody knows I'm extremely pro-tienes.

I'm a part of the organization. And for now, I am too there. And I have like two or three more weeks left on the old belt here. But I'm saying that I'm not coming at the Titans, I think just like if I am the owner, if I'm Amy, that's the number one thing I'm fixing. or trying to figure out how to fix is why are these injuries happening

and how can we stop them from happening? Yeah. Because injury rate in the NFL is 100%. But you're hoping it's 100% for like two, three guys a year. And then you have the rest of your core foundational team. But like even Jeff said in his exit, his last interview in the Jags locker room, he's like, I've been shooting on my ankle every single week for eight weeks.

And Jeff's a dog. Yeah. But the shit's tough. I feel like I mean, our training staff and strength, conditions staff do a great job. But just like, I mean, how can we all improve on, you know, helping one another? And, you know, everybody's staying healthy and being out there being available. Because your best ability is availability.

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But we can pull it up. Oh, I saw that. Resurface, yeah, yeah, yeah. Knowing that we could use a receiver. You, Lamar Jackson, the trio, yeah, the tweet that has resurfaced from 2020. How many touchdowns? Between Lamar, D'Aj. How would you feel about that trio being in Tennessee?

I saw, you know, where they were saying that the Cardinals were looking to trade, hop. I mean, who wouldn't want to play with Hop? He's a Hall of Fame wide receiver. Right. And the same thing with, like, Lamar Jackson, but I don't think it's going to happen. You know, I don't think,

Braves is definitely not going to let Lamar go. He's not going anywhere. And then DeAndre Hopkins, it depends on what makes sense for your team and what they want to, you know, as far as the cap space and if they have a cap space for him. So he's a great receiver. You know, I love to play with, you know, DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, that would be surreal.

You know, he's a dog. But, I mean, it just depends on what makes sense. which like I said, that's about my pre-grade. I don't know, but... You got, like, the Andre Hopkins on the outside, you can't stack the box like that. Yeah, people. Helps everybody.

For sure. Yeah, sure. And another question, like, what was it like on game day watching A.J. Brown, do A.J. Brown against Tennessee. In their uniform. I mean, I didn't expect anything less. I knew AJ's going to go off because I've seen it here,

so AJ going to do what he do if he's a dog. Bro, when they had the penalty, and then he did it the second time. Yes. You can't do nothing but just be like, man. Yeah, but the sidelines like, damn. Yeah, he really did it. Jay is him.

I know. Broke the single receiving record. Affilius first year. Do you really? Yeah. How are you to get? I feel like that was a straw that broke the camel's back when it came over 1,500. We don't have to get in all the J-Rob stuff, but I feel like that, like, objectively, me being on the outside.

Yeah, I was 14-996. That's crazy. Crazy. I said, man, you get an opportunity, you're going to go crazy. And you got an opportunity and you see what he did with it. I texted. I said, I'm proud of you, brother. Just keep going, Fainter Strong, and keep doing you.

Bro. You got out of the times or other playoffs, who do you think you're going to see in the Super Bowl? Is Philly in the Super Bowl? I don't think so. I think it's the Niners. I think it's the Niners and Buffalo. Niners is tough, but you just, you never know. You really staying away from Kansas City still, huh?

I think Buffalo. I think you go either way. It could be Kansas City or it could be Buffalo. Yeah, I'm not going to root for Kansas City if they play against Buffalo, really, if they play against anybody. Why do you hate Kansas City so much? I don't. I don't hate Kansas City so much. I know I kind of reacted right there.

I don't hate Kansas City so much. I want to get beat up again. It's just I'm not going to, like, root for them. You know what I mean? Yeah, I show you. Like, being, like, playing for the Raiders, like, that's their biggest rival. I mean, you just, I don't know, you just, I mean, you really never know because since he's good, too, now. I know.

I know. They did it again. This is good, too, no. You know, just talking about two teens. But I would always argue against my mom, too. My mom loved Kansas City. And I always be like, I was pro Dallas. But I would just argue my mom that she was dumb rooting for Kansas City.

They were always going to let her down. They've obviously done well recently. Recently? I feel like that's like a subconscious, like something underneath why I always just root against it. But do you think, do you think it's tough to, like, choose who's going to be at the end this year? Yes. It's going to be a good playoff picture. It's definitely a good player for you.

I feel like Kansas City is definitely like the Georgia Bulldogs of like the AFC right now. Like they're on top. But I think like... Who's the Alabama of the AFC? Probably the Jags. Yeah. That's a good thing so.

Yeah, I think so. They'd be like right. Yeah, like Bailey got in. Yeah. They were outside looking in. Oh, wow, man. They were outside the conversation looking in trying to get in. Yeah.

Last week. It came down last week. And then he came down last week. But I didn't know a lot. Jackson playing really good ball. They're dangerous, bro. For the B3 and 7 and then come back and play. and played the way they have, they've been,

you know, had something, they played, they played well. A lot like you guys in 2019. Yeah, I mean, they, they played well. They play hard. They play well on defense. They go full, full tilt. Offense is playing well. They've got some free agents guys who, you know,

lived up to, you know, what they signed for. And they've been playing well, Trevor Lawrence. He's a young gun, so. Falling. They've been doing a good, they've been doing a good job. That's all to them. I ain't never hate knowing nobody. I mean, just,

they're a year they've been playing well. Yeah. You've owned them. Historically, though. That's for us. I've had some good games. That's for me.

Against Jacksonville. We will say that. I've had some good games. Let's do. Teart talk. Yeah. What? Tear talk.

Tear talk. It's going to be centered around you, so this is going to be easy. You're really not a... But, but you're talking about, but this is going to get blown out proportion. Go ahead. But it is what it is.

Because I, yeah, I will definitely be in a way now. You talk about, you might have three more weeks. I mean, they might want to get me out of here. You mean, you just never know. I mean, anything can happen. I mean, I'm 29. I'm up in age. You know, what happened with, you know, this year.

And they might be, they might want to go young. You just never know they might get guns out of there. I would be. I'm not saying I want to leave. I love Tennessee. And I hope to be here the rest of my career. I want to bring football here. But it just, it's the reality thing.

It's just the business side of it, you know. You just, you just never know. In my age, being 29, the league and a running back, that's considered as old. So, you know, I just... You're legit, um, beating, running back stereotypes right now. You're the only back in...

I don't think so, because I feel like... I'll tell you why you are. Frank Gore did that. Frank Gore played 16 years. Yeah. An anomaly. Marcus Allen played 16 years. Adrian Peterson been playing for a long time.

He's still trying to be in the NFL, right? Adrian Peterson? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, he is. So, I mean, those guys are definitely the standard. It's not like I'm going to go out there and, like, chase them and like, oh, I got to play that long. No, no. But like I said, whenever it's my time to be done, I mean, I'm sure I don't know.

You understand that you're like a science project for everybody in the media. You're like, you know, 2,000 yards, year and and you're out. Like, when's it going to stop? When's it going to slow down? Like, okay, he's going to slow down. He works out way too hard. We all see this stuff on Instagram. He works out way too hard.

He gets jacked. How long, how long can he keep this up? And then you prove it again. You prove it again. You prove it again. Obviously, yeah, when he's like you're beating the stereotype, I think ultimately the universal stereotype is like how you haven't really seen anybody do what you've done for this period of time.

If you look at statistically, backs that have renegotiated your contract with the same team, you're the only back in recent years that numbers have gotten better after getting an extension, a long-term extension. And that has nothing to do with those backs and how much they care about football. Let's just say everybody equally cares about football the same. everybody equally works just as hard. The running backs are fucked to some extent because everyone says running backs only have so many years.

And you truly are, like he's saying science sports, you truly are one of those individuals like, hey, you're like in Tom Brady. You're better be in Tom Brady year soon for a running back where it's like, dude, he's just still balling. He is still just doing his thing. People count them out. People could be like, if you turn a game and you watched Denver this year, when he had 40 yards and you would say

oh man Derek Derek he's lost a step he's whatever and you're not not looking at injury as the king ended and then you look at the end of the season it's like 16 you look at 60 yards no but I mean that's that's valid

you know especially like with my injury and you know me being up in age those questions come you know they come for everybody always come because I mean you know running backs they're they're spanning NFL

it's not long and I know people probably brought us out of portion about about what I'm I said, but I'm just being real, you know, with, you know, with the history, you know, Warnerbag is 20, 29, 30 is just, you know, usually you try to get him out of there or think he's going downhill. So what happened to Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson was doing well in there like, we want to go young.

Yeah. When he was in the pocket, that's what he said. And then, like you said, you know, you know, office has been sitting around me a long time and sometimes people won't see something different. Maybe people are tired of seeing me, you know, you know, it's been a, you were in the owner. me. So, I mean, I'm just, I'm just doing real. I'm not saying I want to be trading anything like that, but I'm just saying like,

you just never know. You just never know. You don't ever know. Like it's like, that's with the new GM, he might be like, man. Let's get to get this Henry boy out of here, man. We've got to get this Harry boy out of here. Imagine, imagine, imagine, imagine Derek Henry in a different uniform than the Titans. Blasphemous. That would be blasphemous. It'd be weird for, yeah, you and Jack, right? Two long time Titan fans. Literally, Derek gave you some. something to I believe in again.

I love Nashville. I mean, it's been home for me. Plus, Bama. My little girls are grown up here, so, I mean, Nashville is home for me. I love playing for the Titans. I love the whole organization. I love everybody in the organization. And I love all my teammates I play with now and in the past.

At the end of the day, it's the NFL, it was not for long. Right. You just have to be on the situation that it could change. And that's how it go. The owner or a new gym could look at like, oh, we're happy he just got 1600 yards. maybe that's that's we can see that as him being at the top and use that like while we have him here right now we could trade him off for some draft capital or for another a younger yeah but if i'm derrick and if you're going to trade me i'm like all right me then pay me more money right then

what do you mean if i'm Derek and i'm speaking for Derek i'm not there doesn't have to speak on this if you're going to trade me to let's just say a random team your favorite team Kansas city chiefs right i'm saying all right if you guys want to trade for me then you need to pay me this amount of money And then if I say no, then the procedure doesn't go through, and Derek plays for the Titans. Or he doesn't play, or he does whatever he wants. I'm saying if, if, because a player have that ability to just. Yeah, players can say that at the same time, you know. I didn't take care of the ball well this year, which, you know, I know.

I'm always going to hold myself accountable for, you know, my fumbles or my turnovers and anything like that. I need to get better at. That's one thing about this game. You think you arrive. I'm not saying I have, but I'm saying it always. you know, humble you and show you that it's always room for improvement. And that's what I always want to focus on is improving. I need to prove on taking care of the ball better,

which I put us in harm's way a lot this year. And it kind of makes me feel like B-I-T-C-H because I, you know, pummeled so much this year, but something I need to do better at. And I will definitely focus on this year in the all-season of taking care of the ball and practicing that a whole lot. Is that something you look back on this past season? You're like, damn. Yeah, I just,

It's nags me every time, you know, I think about it. And I wish I could have done better. But at the time, stuff like that happens. And you need to improve. That's one thing I definitely want to improve on. So, yeah. Yeah, definitely want to learn more about that little player thing that you were just talking about.

You know, he sees, he said, pay me more or I won't go. I believe players can say I will not accept that trade. Or like Gronk did when he was the Patriot. I think, I think, I'm retiring. I'm retiring and then you can like fill the fiscal or something and then it won't get past. It's like a clause. If you don't, if you have a trade clause in your contract,

then I think you could say you kind of get to choose where you go. But if you don't have a trade clause, they don't have, they can ship you wherever they want. Oh, hey, no, you can't do that. You got to pay me more. No, we don't see you. Yeah, if you, I think you don't have a trade clause. They can ship you, they can trade you wherever they want to trade you.

Damn. And all I was, all I was speaking to is when you just have the perspective of, you know, when you're telling Taylor, like, You say three weeks, but, bro, you never know. He's like, they can get rid of me. So they could look in. Well, I'm, I'm terribly sorry. And I should have said something before.

But you've had this booger in your nose, this whole podcast. The whole podcast? Yeah, it's been sitting there, but. Ain't none of y'all going to say nothing. Boss can't. Back there, he's, fucking. Where at? Where's it at?

You got it. It's gone now. Oh, did it? Okay. But you think it was visible on the, you think it was visible? can see it's probably not this. My motherfucker was hanging, though. It was hanging out right there.

Hanging gripping. No, but what were you saying about? It's tough to get back to you. I was saying like... That's tough to refocus on for well. I was talking about the method of somebody could be like, okay, it's good that he he ran for $16,100. Like, maybe we think he won't be the same player going in the next year.

Yeah, I mean, that's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. I'm not saying he's not. It's just like, oh, damn, we could have, we could hedge our bet now. it's good that he performed that well. We don't think he's going to next year.

This is our time to trade him because he will be at his highest trade value right now with 1,600 yards, 2,000 yards, this, that, the other. He proves he's healthy now for his season. That's just, that's speaking to the perspective of you ultimately never know in the business of, like, you know, the NFL. I mean, you don't know. I mean, do we think AJ is going to get traded?

No. No. That's what I'm saying. You just don't, you never know. And that's just the reality of it. I mean, it's a business. Yeah. And Tennessee Titans is a business.

It's not Derek Henry stays here forever or any other person here forever. It's a business. They're going to look out for what's best for the organization and their business before anything. Nobody's bigger than, you know, the organization. So that's just real. That's just real. No, no, you're right. You're right.

You're real. You're, that is. You won't good things last forever, but in the NFL, it really, really doesn't. I'm the only person who really has the last of ever for Tom Brady, and he could, He did what he won for a long time. As soon as he's done, there's a $300 million concert. Yeah, so you know what I'm saying? It's worked out for him very well.

As long as he's wanted to play. Yeah. I wonder what's going to happen in this office. What was your reaction like, I'm sure it's the same as everybody. It was a boring-ass question. I was going to say, what was your reaction on draft night when you saw A.J. got traded. I was mad. I'm just like, what's going on?

We couldn't get it worked out. We'd trade. And that's like my little brother, I mean, we was a tandem. You know, I was just like, man, I was hot. I talked to him on the phone because I was just like, man. Because nobody expected that. He was like, what? Right.

Anyway, AJ, an proven receiver. So, yeah, I was, I mean, I was kind of, I was shocked. I was, I was hurt. That's my dog. Yeah, is that a situation being closer to me? You're like, low-key, why did any of you guys, any side keep me in the loop on this? Because I could have been a tool to keep AJ here. No, because I ain't think it's going to happen.

I was, I was waiting for it to come out. AJ Brown signed $100 million dollars with the Titans. I was waiting on that. Yeah. I was literally, I think, after what I was doing, I was walking in the room and it said, AJ Brown trade to the Eagles, I was like, what? Yeah, I was like, oh, that was wild. That was wild. I was watching the job, like, oh, my God.

We called each other, like, right away. Yeah. But I will say the guys who, you know, play receiver this year, they did, you know, a great job. You know, it was tough, especially being, you know, first year with Rob and trailing being a rookie. And then Nick, you know, he's been here going on year three. he's been solid for us. I mean, they did the best job they could, man, and try to fill in and make plays for us.

It ain't always easy. It's never going to go to the way we wanted to go and, you know, hats off of them, you know, because trying to play somebody like AJ who just broke this single season record for the Eagles and been going crazy. It's hard to try to replace somebody like that and living in that shadow. That's tough for anybody.

But I feel like they tried to do the best job they could. Yeah. That was wild, yeah. It was tough. I mean, it was tough. And then playing with three different quarterbacks and trying to build the chemistry and everybody. That's tough. That's tough.

I like how you stay mindful of everybody who could be involved in a situation. Yeah. You go back to make it a point to talk about the guys who came in when I was on a surface level. Yeah, no, because I don't want to leave like, dang, I'm not that type of teammate to leave anybody hanging. It's hard in this league, you know, and, you know, anything can happen and, you know, injuries happen and guys got to step up and guys got to make plays. and, you know, AJ was a big-time player for us and then they ended up in on another team and other guys got to step up

and I feel like they tried to do the best that they could. Yeah, it's very thoughtful. And just like you pointed out with the linemen when guys go down, the other guys got to step up. They probably never thought they were like, man, they'd be starting in two or three games and look, you know, that's just what it is. So how about Jordan Ruse and Corey Levin?

Tough, you know, did, went out there and laid it all out. And then, you know, I'm watching them throughout camp and throughout the season, all the confidence in them, you know, because they, they love this game and they play hard. They just like you guys. They seem like they really played well in those last few games. Should we hit the tear talk? People just bash everybody, man, you know, dude.

I know, poor Dennis family do. It's one thing when a player know, you know, he's not playing as well as he, you know, should be or, you know, playing to the standard that, you know, everybody expects somebody to play. and players already know that. So, you know, and people always speak on, like, mental health and all this type of stuff, but people don't know that you contribute to that, you know, when, say, a player lashes out or something happening, they be like, oh, man, mental health is so important,

but people don't realize you contribute to that when you sit there bashing the player when they already know they're playing bad and then got to go watch it and then got to get coached by it and then still trying to mentally be there to get past that game and go to another game and play as well as they can while, you know, social media and all this type of stuff and, you know, somebody asked me

during the season about social media comment. I was like, man, I don't get into all that because how I'm going to do all that and try to do my job the best way I can. But, you know, that's just a way of the world now. And, you know, with fantasy football and guys ain't played ball. I see all the time, people are like, man,

I don't care about your fantasy football, but it's just what it is. And it feels about money. And, you know, we all got a job to do. We all, you know, play this game with our heart out. And sometimes it don't go the way that we wanted to, especially each game because it's tough. And, you know, you get bashed, people get bashed.

But we're human beings, you know what I'm saying? We got feelings too. We, you know, we try to do our best. And sometimes it don't happen to where we wanted to. But I don't know. I'll just think about players in mental health and all the type of stuff. And, you know, sometimes it get tough for certain people

when you don't know them and what they're going through. Yeah. No, I feel you were saying something. too. You're like, you, ultimately, you already know when you have a bad game. You're already, you're... And Taylor can attest to that. When you know you're playing bad and, you know, you got to watch how you play bad and you got to get coached from it and you are already, you know, in your head like, man, I got to pay better.

Trying to move on from that because it's a new week. But you still like, hang out. You know, you still got that hanging on you. Your home worst critic. Your coach is already... Yeah. Players are hearing the same thing. Then you're trying to, like, get past at that. next week, media is still talking about it. Then people on the internet, like, it's just multiple ways when you're also trying to be, like, mentally tough and persevere through some adversity.

It's like, people don't understand that they... I think people do understand because it's what we signed up for. By the end of the day, man, there's a lot of mental stuff that you... Like, we always say, the game is 10% physical, 90% mental, 10% physical. Because, I mean, physical part, we got it. That's why we hear this way you're not. But mentally, you got to be locked. then to be able to sustain and play this game for as long as you have,

and how long as the seasons are, and play it at a high level over and over again. And I think that, you know, anytime I see people, you know, bashing players and saying they're playing bad, especially with this fantasy football stuff, I mean, things football is, it's great, it's entertaining. At the end of the day, you know, we, we human, you know, we love this game, we're not trying to play bad on purpose,

but sometimes, you know, you, you, you know, don't have good games. We love to go for 100 yards and go crazy every game. Yeah, but it's reality of it. It don't happen that way all the time. You know what I'm saying? And I just think that, you know, when people bash people playing bad,

they already know that. You don't have to, but that's just the way of the world now. It goes both ways too. Like, everybody wants to have 100 yards, but then when you have games like you've had in the past, if Derek Henry just gets 100 yards, like, why is they going to get 100 yards?

I need some touchdowns. 100 yards are only 10 points for me on the picture. Right. What I'm trying to get. I understand. It's like, be mindful of like, you know, these players, man, because a lot of players can't. And I'm fucking around too, by the way.

Yeah, I understand. A lot of players can't take that type of stuff. Like, with somebody who on the internet wants somebody to come to their job and just critique them about everything they do, or you don't do this right? And you're like, how are you going to tell me how to do my job? Exactly. That's how we feel.

We got a chance to put your job. I don't think is, when our job is on TV and everybody has an opinion on it. You know what I'm saying. So they get to say what they want to say. but if it was a regular day job and we got to all the pro players go to a random person job

and critique them on everything. You know what I'm saying? They would mentally fall apart. It's entertaining though. It's not what it's entertaining. I think that what separates an individual from a good to a great player is being able to mentally handle those types of situations.

Yeah. Because you have a bad game. You're right. If I have a bad game, I not only have to have the bad game, I have to go home, I have to watch a film on that bad game because you obsess over it.

You're like, damn, how could I, what could I have done better? And you watch every little thing. And then you do two things. You say, man, I really got fucked up in this situation or I really messed up. And then you start playing your own ego kicks in where you're like, well, it wasn't that bad. All I have to do is change X, Y, and Z. And I'm straight.

And I'll fix that next time. Then you go to- Coach, though, doesn't go too hard about it. Then you go to sleep, you wake up anxiety because you know you hit that team meeting. You know how variable can get in team meetings. You go to the office linemen meeting. Keith Carter. You know how Keith Carter was in those meetings.

I told you about those. like he will just go off on dudes. You're hearing over and over and over again, and then as soon as that Monday hits, like, okay, now take a, take your Tuesday, make sure you're recovered and get ready to work Wednesday for the next game. And the ability to take all that anxiety and stress

and feeling like a failure and having imposter syndrome and then turning around to Wednesday and being able to now work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and go play another game and then have a good game, that's what separates players from being good to great. Because people have talent,

everybody has talent. Even dudes that on the third string on certain times, they have talent. It's just about when you mess up, how quickly can you get over that? Sometimes it's one play. I have to get over this in one play. I give up a sack. I have to move on right now. If you make a bad cut and you

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but everybody in life, you go through a lot. So I'm just not trying to, you know, trying to separate football players from anybody else in the world. I mean, everybody goes through everything. like, man, just hold your head, keep faith, and just keep working and trust and believe in what you do on how you work and everything or work out the way you wanted to, especially, you know, playing football. You know, like I said, earlier this year to, like some of my team teammates, as a little kid, if God told you how to do this and this to get to the NFL,

you would do it, no question, to make it to your dream. And then I think sometimes when we get to the NFL, you kind of forget about a kid that would do anything. playing on wreck league field or in your parents or grandparent's front yard of, you know, making the NFL and being a big star one day, whether you are a star or if you made it, you'll accomplish something, you know what I'm saying. So being grateful for what this game has done and what God has done in your life and all the people that help you get to this point in life. Because there's some people who got a lot worse, some people who still working their way

to do accomplish something in life, but you on the NFL team and you made it. And even if you didn't make it long, but you got to where you always wanted to be as a kid. And so, and you, you know, you, you accomplish something in life. And I think sometimes we forget that. And one thing I always try to remind myself, it could always be worse. Because even if I have a bad game or if I do something, I just harp on it really bad. Like I said, like you say, everybody's their own worst critic. And I'm definitely mine.

And I beat myself up a lot. But at some point, just got real loud. man, I'm blessed to be where I'm at and to have these problems because, you know, you know, it's never easy and it's no, it's hard to plan this league. But at the day, I'm always going to be grateful, grateful for this season,

even though it didn't go to what we wanted it to. And it ended the way we wanted to, but at the end of the day, you know, I got to grow and I got to see a lot that I need to get better at. It helped me, you know, become better teammate. And each year you learn something.

I feel like you learn something this year. about yourself and what you want to do. Each year I feel like we all learn something. That's the thing about God here, show you what you, you know. The beautiful thing about you seeing on this podcast is saying that is people are going to be able to hear that and people are going to be able to see that like, because people look at 51 or 77 or 22 and they see us on TV and it's polarizing to them. For you to be able to sit on a microphone and explain what people go through on a day-to-day

basis and how everyone has issues, that's going to resonate with a lot of people. Yeah, I just want to be read because it's been in my heart for a long time, and I just want to speak on that because I see guys in the league and I see guys all over that, you know, I know they work hard and I know they try to do everything that they can. It just happened to them for them right now.

But, you know, you look at guys that struggle, but now have came, you know, who've gotten over, you know, the adversity hump and it's not balling. And try to tell guys to stay with it, trusting your work, trusting, you know, everything that you do and everything that happened the way

the way you wanted to. And people always have something to say. Everybody has their own opinion. As long as you lock in and focus in, have a ton of vision of what you want to do or what you want to be, it would happen for you. You know, and, you know, it's hard to avoid

what people say being on the internet, being on social media. Because, I mean, it's everywhere nowadays. But I feel like, you know, as long as you stay locked in mentally and everything to work out the way you want to. And it's tough sometimes. because it can't get in your head

and it can make you feel some type of way and you start to believe those things you know sometimes but sometimes you got to distract yourself and just focus on your craft and what you need to do

and sometimes like you did you got off social media because sometimes people it can you know come control can be controlling and let it control you and you know

social media can be it can be toxic. I mean, it is toxic at times, and a lot of people get caught up in that, and you just don't want it to take over who you are as a person, don't lose yourself as a person, just remember, you know, what got

you to the way you are. And, you know, that's just the way of the world now, but I just wanted to let everybody know in the world and the football world hold your head. You know, it ain't never, as, as, as as rough as you think it is, it can always be worse, man.

And just keep doing what you do, stay locked in, just keep working, man. No matter what nobody say, somebody's always going to have something to say. If they ain't saying nothing, you ain't doing nothing. Is there anything you'd want to say to the fantasy owners that you let down this year? No. I am telling me, sorry, man. Hopefully I can be able to showcase a little bit better and give you some more fantasy points.

But I think, you know, every player in the league, we just try to go out there. involved. Sometimes they don't go the way we want it to. It don't mean we like, F your fantasy team. It's the one. It's one thing for- It wasn't our day. It wasn't our day. It's like death taxes and a football player being like, I don't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

That's every year, you know what I mean? When you're seeing a young guy do, you're like, hey. People can talk crazy to you now about, you know, people get caught up in that, in that fantasy story. When he comes on again, I would let, I'm sure everybody has crazy stories. People talk crazy media about being football, especially people talking your demons about fantasy football, but I just ignore it, but it can get,

it can get crazy sometimes. Yeah. No, I fantasy can get with that fantasy football stuff, but at the end of the day, man, we just try to go ball and do the best we can. And if you have fantasy ball and you ball out this year or you've been doing it like a yearly basis, keep doing your thing. I know as a GM, I'm a winner this year. I took home the gold.

I take a lot of pride. I mean, it's a playoff. They do take a lot of pride. They take a lot of pride in advanced football, for real, though. Right. Should we hit tear talk before we let the king leave? I'm going to talk about it. Yeah, we do need it.

It's 5 o'clock. Damn, we'll be talking for a minute. I know. We've been talking for a while. Our tier talk. Derek Henry Stiff Arms. No, don't do this. Why not?

You got a lot. I got it. Our tier talk, tier talk, it would be like your best step farm, your second best stepfarm, your third best, most iconic stiff arms. We can do a different one if you want. What are your different one? Yeah, no. Derek Henry Stiff arms.

All right, all right, all right. I got it. Before we do TIR talk, can we at least get a top three? Like, Derek Henry Stiff Arms? I want to do. I have my three. Oh, what's your three? Wow.

Y'all can do it, but I'll just, I'll just. You don't have your favorite stiff arms that you look back on? How about this? I don't look back on. Like, what are your favorites? Yeah, but what was the highest price one? No, I didn't never really put them out, though. I never really, because that market kind of.

Oh, yeah. That's true. Yeah, yeah, no. But you don't like. look back and be like, I got a top, you know, stiff arm catalog? I think when I'm done, I will because I feel like I still got some more Emmy as I'm still playing.

Right. No, no, no, no, no, no. No disrespect, but no, I'm just waiting to see when I'm done to reflect on it. Yeah. How would this? We'll say our top three stiff arms and you use one word to describe how you feel about our top three. Hmm.

All you have to do to say one word, how you feel about Will and I stiff arm tears. No. No, I ain't trying to... I ain't trying to embarrass nobody, man. It's been enough. It's been enough. You know what I'm saying?

You been to talk about it enough. Yeah. I didn't even try to do that again. No, I... No, bro. No, bro. Tier talk this week. Michigan State.

You'd probably go, man, polarizing. It would probably be the Josh Norman one. And the third one is either, personally, uh, seeing it on TV. because I got to see it's Josh normal one that was funny guy came up off the bench

holy fuck boys we gotta go see what it just happened but objectively watching the Earl Thomas one and I say that too like I would say this was Josh Josh's a boy before we were teammates that's what like that's unfortunate it could have to me didn't know didn't but either Earl Thomas or honestly bro the one you had last week when you got old boy

on the sideline and You kind of like, you know, hey, come on now, you don't have to flex, but you kind of stood up over for a second. Look, watch out. I hope you understand. I just dropped you, son. Watch out. I'll say, boy, you don't have to say nothing. Don't say nothing.

You will. But those are probably my tops. My top stiff, arms. Do you have any? I don't know if the king wanted this to happen. Go ahead. He's already done that. My top three, my number three stiff arm by Derek Henry would go in the national championship game against Michigan State, which you did to Shalek Calhoun.

That was a playoff game. Playoff game. Sorry, the playoff game. I apologize, sir. You picked up that two or seven pound man. Not only did you step up him, you spun him in a way that blended, like 90 degree angle, blendered him and he fell to the ground. It was iconic and it was Michigan State, which was nice for me. Jack Conflin was part of that team.

Number two, Earl Thomas. Because Earl was talking all that shit the week before. I like Earl. I've never met Earl, but I like Earl quite a bit. Got to chop the arm. Yeah, I chop the arm. I told you, dude, we ain't scared him.

We're going to stand up to him. Man, I got 200 on y'all, Earl. Shut up. I would do, and you basically turned him into a blocker for you. And my number one stiff arm, my number one stiff arm play

is against the Jacksonville Jaguars, 99 yards. Not one, not two, not three, but possibly four stiff arms for a 99 yard touchdown. That shit was so hyped too because we literally called it before. Called that touchdown.

Yeah. Back to the main topic of discussion. Have you changed your chance on the Wendy's Burger? Winnie's Burger, bro, I said, you had gave me a burger, and I said, Winnie's burger is way better than that burger. And then we went on to other burgers, but I don't know how it stuck that Wendy's had the best burger. Wendy's over five guys?

Winnie's over five guys? Money's over five guys? Money's over five guys? That's what you think? Winnie's for five guys. I'm going to say it. Wendy's over five guys, you know. You're going to go again, bro?

No. Bro, come on. No, no, no. Yeah, I know my back is going to. No, you're welcome. I'll stop because you're back. Oh, bro. Everybody know that.

That's horrible. Now, listen. Wendy's is a good burger. I, I... You just got a little thing going on. Please, please stop with the winnie's. I never said Winnie's was the best burger. Winnie's all over five guys.

And he's like, why is we'll keep bringing up the Winnie's burger? No, no, no. We can stop right now. What's best burger? You were in the locker room arguing about Wendy's. I do want that to be said. That's the whole point. That's why I went to Wendy's after practice.

Yeah, no, because I thought you had mentioned somebody. I said, Winnie's Burger is better than that burger for sure. And you was like, no, bro. And I said, bro, I'm telling you Wendy's burger is better than that one. I forgot which one you mentioned, though. I forgot which burgers father was. No, I don't think it was five guys. It was something else.

What's the best burger? It's probably DQ. If I said DQ, I'm definitely just trying to get in the mix and just... Yeah, you definitely was. Because they were in the locker room, everybody was kind of just arguing. The best burger? Ooh, that's tough.

And now, no, no, though. Somebody lives in Dallas. Their burger, it's, it's, it's good, but it's not like the best, the best burger. Their fries are not it. We're not talking about fries and about the burger.

Yeah, but I'm just saying overall, the burger, the burger is pretty good, but it's not one of the best, no. So did. Okay, so can you, give me your list, top five? I think mine might have changed, actually. Okay, come on.

Number one would be in and out. Number two. I was like, number two is Carl's Jr. I never had that break before. And number three, if we're keeping fast casual in it, which I think there's an argument both ways,

fast casual meaning there's no fast, like there's no drive-thru. I see where you're going, because it is. I would probably throw Shake Shack in there. Shake Shack is fire. Shishak is fire. Hits. Shishak inspired. Honestly, being in Nashville, it's like

my three favorite burgers. I heard Hugh Baby's hits, too. I've never had Hugh Babies. Shacket's, bro. Those are my three favorite burgers. You've had Hugh babies? Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hey. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo.

Jack Browns? Jack Browns is fire. Oh. But that's that thing is going to die and you go in and get a team. You go in and get a team. But all the wrong with Jack Browns is they don't have a lot. Like, they don't have, like, lettuce, tomato. It's just burger and cheese.

Or it's, like, a little bit of sauce. They don't have, like, lettuce tomato. They're like the cream cheese and jalapino jelly. Lett tomato? Los. Elvis? Peanut butter one? I just like the regular burger or the regular double cheeseburger.

If they had lettuce tomato, oh, they would be top. Yeah. Waterburger? What a burger? Your favorite burgers? Let's see. Not a top five, but I like, I like Shake Shack. Waterburger

Are we doing two Tier Talks? No, no, no, no. I like Waterburger. I'm trying to think another. No, no, no, don't interrupt me. It's like...

Waterburger's overrated. They're saying like fast food spots. This is what we're talking about fast food spots. Yeah. Fake Shack. Waterburger. Bro, how were you arguing Wendy's and Wendy's in your list?

That's what I'm... Winnie's kind of fell off. Okay. Fell off. Now I am trying to figure out what happened in that locker room to make you... The Wendy's fell off.

Wendy's. Bro, I did not, why are you, he's going to die on that hill and I did not crown Wendy's. This has made a whole, whole sweet video about going to Wendy's, and the drive-thew and everything.

Manate's on the side of his lip, with a fresh coat. Damn, I'm not going to lie, this Coke's really helping this burger right now. Yeah. I remember all that. You're taking a Coca-Cola? Dr. Pepper, which one of he had?

You know, I can, something about, like, drink soda. I'm watching my diet or some shit. Yeah. As I continued, inhale the burger. I was like, you don't think you have

some five guys? Five guys is... Five guys is... Five guys is... It's just a lot of grease. I can't handle the responsibility of five guys. It's a lot of grease. It is.

A lot of grease. Like, you might pay for it. You know what I mean? You do pay for it. You do pay for it. But it is a good ride. Hold on. I'm gonna ask you all this and I'm done.

Saxby's or raising canes. Cains. Cains. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, King's, no question. He's over Zachspe's 10 to 10.

What? Beat his ass. Hey, what do you think about Bojangles? Okay, tell me what makes Zaxby's better than Raising King? The menu. Raising Kay's menu is just...

I will say, Derek, you are an elite with your facial reactions. That's how you got everybody stirred up in the locker in the first time. I did, yeah, that's true. That's true. Anytime somebody says something in the locker room,

Derek, that reaction right there. He just got the... What? Okay, okay, okay, so they do... Jackers has a better variety than than Raising Keynes, but as far as the food, so you say, the food better or the menus better. Well, like, Keynes doesn't even have wings,

so Zaxby's wings are trash. They're better than Keynes. They don't have them. They don't have wings, their wings and... That's my point, though. But if you see Zaksenters and... Chicken tenors are better than both their wings and chicken tenders,

whatever they call them. Keynes did also kind of copy Zach sauce. Kane's sauce is way better than Zach. Kay's, Zach's, copy Keynes. No, Zach's was around first. No, it was not. Look at it up. Cains was around first.

Listen. J.P. You by the other or do you know? Cades was made by a guy that went to LSU and he named the thing after his dog. Wasn't it like a, like a class project? Yeah, it's a class project. He had a D on it and they said that'll never work. And he was like, all right, cool,

dropped out of college and made Raising Cains with the guy who ended up branched me off and making Zaxpies. Look it up, dude. Really? Oh, wow. Hey, that's important. Whoa.

Whoa. I hope that's right, bro. I don't know about that. I hope that's the right. What you just said? I was like, oh, my God. It was the other way around. You made it sound of legal, too.

I'm like, whoa. We didn't drop the mic after that one. I think it was. Wow. No, it wasn't. Wow. Wow. Oh, my God.

Everything I just said that's so good, though. Look at you up there. This is what the internet does, boys. Don't believe everything you were in the internet. That flavor list, copycat chicken. Hey, remember, hey, remember back in the day when we were talking about burgers? And I was like, Taylor's a storyteller.

He's a great storyteller. But look, elite. Listen, everybody. He's an insult, but thank you. No. We're talking about this fast food and all this greasy food. But me and Taylor, we eat pretty healthy. I don't know about Will, but we eat.

Pretty healthy. No, no, no. I'm just, I just wanted to say, guys, I've changed my diet this past year, and it's been remarkable. And it showed, buddy.

You look fantastic. It helped a lot. It was my first time. I'm actually really, like, being strict with it. And all I drunk, all year of a straight water, and I'm still doing it.

He killed to me during camp, and he's like, what do you, what do you drink? I was like, I just drink water. And he's like, you know, juice?

No, I don't do any juice or nothing. Like, what? Two days later, he's like, all I drink is water. He hated it. All I drink is water, bro. I'm drinking anything else. So I come in the locker room.

I'm like, Taylor, so like your diet, what is it consist of? And then as far as the season, how long do you do it? And then whenever seasons are old with, do you give your time to, like, you have time to have a cheat meal or something like that? He was like, bro. He's like, yeah, after the season, I might have a cheat meal here and there. But, like, once I get, like, locked back in, I'm back in. I'm all, you know, I'm eating healthy and everything else.

I don't really cheat much, but if I do... Hold on, hold on, hold on, rise of the season. What he said, but during the season, I'm locked, I don't really eat anything. I have my meals and just and that. So I'm like, okay, cool. Oh, no. I'm about to get God.

So, so... When he was talking, I was like, I'll play a long. So we have, like, we used to do that little meals O'Line dinner on Thursday. Yeah. And they were having a fantasy draft night. And, um...

Oh, bro! I'll walk in. I walk in Taylor's house, you know, go to the little man area, his man cave is a chill area. Everybody's sitting there. I'm like, dang, so I smell like fried chicken in here or something with some hot sauce, barbecue salt, lemon, pepper, everything going on. Smell going crazy in there.

So I'm like, okay. I'm like, Taylor, who are these wings fun? You know, oh, I got it for the boys. See, I got some boys. He's like, man, I already ate. I'm full. You know, blahze, blah, blah. It's true.

He's about to tell a lie. So we get, you know, 15, 20 minutes in. He's about to tell lie. I'm like, I'm like. I'm like, oh, man, everybody eating, I mean, Ben, killing them. Nate, they killing them and everything. They're just breathing. I'm like, man, I got, I'm like, I'm like, I'm from the slides.

I'm about to slip up. I'm about to sleep with my die out and travel on these wings. And guess who's eating wings? Mr. I'm like, tell her, what, what's this? I thought it was all locked in. He was like, no, I just had one wing this and that. Then I leave. Then I hear it then turn to one, turn to one, turn to,

to two, turn to three, turn to four. I'm like, what? After that, I was like, you know, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on my own for now. Orodeus. On all it counts. I'm on my own. No. Derek shows up.

I'm going to tell my side now. Derek shows up. We had the fantasy draft. I get the wings for the boys. Strike out wings. For those of you haven't had strikeout, best wings in Nashville. No, no free shoutouts. They get, I get all that.

I got those for the boys. I made sure to eat before you asked me, are you eating these wings? I said, no, I'm not going to eat the wings. I'm hanging out. I'm just going to do the draft and they're going to go home. Derek, the first pick in the draft happens. It wasn't Derek.

Derek gets up and goes, all right, man, I'm a slide. That is not what happened. You are lying. I was there for a while. I was there for a while. I was there for a while. I took Derek.

That is a lie. Derek leaves. Hours go by. The boys are still chilling. I get up and yes, I had two wings. That's it. No, I'll let you talk.

I get back to the locker room. And sure enough, I fuck it. The first person I see in there that day is Derek. And he's like, would you eat yesterday? I was like, oh, I had the meal. Like I said, I did. He's like, you didn't have any wings? I was like, no, I didn't have, I didn't have any wings.

That's weird because Ben and Nate. Okay, okay. So did you have two wings? And I was like, yes, I had two wings, Derek. I had two wings, I'm sorry. And he was, I'm by myself now. That's it. I thought you were about it.

So, dude, who story do you believe? Because I asked him about the wings and he told me he didn't. So I had to find out from Ben. Yeah, I lied. I lied. Exactly. Who starts out. Exactly.

It seems like the story, the results all the same. Right. I had two wings. It seemed like when he asked and you're like, no, you lied. And they were fire. And they were fire. You think he only had two? There were two left.

No. I went so long. There were two left. No. No, my boy. You said how you talk about him? No, he had more than two. Before you leave, are you going to Vegas with the boys?

I think I'm going to Vegas with the boys. I can't. Not way. It's going to be an office. Leave me one. Leave me one. There you go. Just leave me one. Boys, hey, also one question before we leave. If it's not this spring, what about getting with Derek and going to Tuscaloosa for a spring tour? Maybe not this spring or next, but... Someday.

Yeah, we can do it. Yeah, we definitely can do it. I'm down. You're down to go to Tuscaloosa? Yeah, I haven't been in a while, so I'm definitely going. Just let me know. Spring, maybe. Yeah, threw me for a loop right there. Yeah, let me know. I'll definitely, I'm down. Right, back down, boys. He said yes.

I remember because Thanksgiving didn't seem like he was feeling it as much. Yeah, because we did bring it up Thanksgiving. I don't know. I was like, oh, shit, Jacks, he's asking something. We've already kind of talked about it. But I really, but Derek seemed like he didn't want to do it because he was, like, he's like, I haven't been there in a while. I don't know how to be received.

And that's just me thinking, that's just me seeing a dude who's not understanding his legacy. Like, he's going to go there. People are going to be like. Probably because it was like still the season. I didn't. I was like, man, I don't know what's going to happen. But now, yeah, I'm down. I've been in a while.

I love to go back. Let's go, boys, this March or April. We will be in Tuscaloosa. It would definitely be lit if, like, we went during the season. It was like a by week. That would be, it would be crazy if y'all was able to do that. We could set that up also. But I'm just saying, like, during the season and I got to go and it was a bye week.

You guys sell out? Huh? What? You didn't have here funny, man. Hey, for real. Appreciate you coming on, man. Thank you all for having me. Know what it is.

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