Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Diego Pavia Says Vanderbilt Will Run Tennessee + Make The College Football Playoff

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

Recorded: June 16th, 2025 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, The Boys sat down with one of the most electric quarterbacks in college football — Diego Pavia. Pavia shared his wild journey from... being a standout wrestler in high school to calling his own plays at New Mexico State and leading the Aggies to a historic upset win over Auburn. Diego opened up about being overlooked as a recruit, how he maximized his time at NMSU, and what the transition has been like moving into the SEC at Vanderbilt. He broke down the behind-the-scenes story of the Commodores’ shocking upset over No. 1 Alabama and what that win meant for the program. The conversation also hit on whether he considered entering the transfer portal again, the expectations for his first full SEC season, and just how much Coach Jerry Kill impacted his entire football journey. And of course — Diego doubled down on his belief that Vanderbilt would run Tennessee this year and even said the Commodores could make the College Football Playoff. It was bold, hilarious, and absolutely peak Diego. It’s the kind of interview that makes you root for the dude. Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 Easy to enjoy. Just like this episode will be easier to enjoy because we have a baller sitting with this on the bus right now. Diego Pavia, starting quarterback Vanderbilt. True underdog mentality. I was telling you before we got on here, like you are the epitome of a high school wrestling state champ that also plays. quarterback. Is that a backhanded compliment? No, I think it's a great compliment. I think it's
Starting point is 00:02:34 I think it explains everything about his game, his antics on the field, off the field, everything you hear, the aura around Diego Pavia, it makes so much sense that he was a, like you were a state champion, but you were kind of telling me that you were number one in the country for, for like fourth grade into like seventh grade, which is before puberty. So fourth grade is seventh grade, then everyone kind of hit puberty and then after that it was a no it's crazy to be number one in the country i'm just messing with you but that is that is wild i feel like you are the first generation of cats that grew up watching johnny mansell like the way you play and i mean that as 100% a compliment like you talk shit you get after it dudes hit the shit out of you in the sideline you're limping on your leg but your
Starting point is 00:03:18 boys your offensive lines watching you limp over they're getting they're musseling up against other cats and you just go in there you just don't give a fuck it really feels like it's like hey we got a play call boys but Diego at the end of the day like you're gonna do whatever the fuck you want to do I think sometimes uh they think that's what the play call is but I'm just changing it you know what I mean so like I just change it to what I like so you'll you'll just go you'll go AWOL and change it to whatever you want at times yeah yeah like uh if the play say it's a run play second and short like now we're we're deep we're going deep we get the next way. No, it's coach aware.
Starting point is 00:03:58 He's obviously aware in the time it's happening. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. So like, sometimes like they get to talk to you now. And so like on the earpiece, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, like, what are we doing? Like, he's talking to someone else on the top. You know what I mean? But like, I can't talk back. I don't have a mouth that he can hear me. So it's just like,
Starting point is 00:04:17 shit just better work. You're thinking in your head, you guys are taking a little too long for my liking. Like, I'm just going to draw something up right here. Well, not, he'll call a play, but it's like, I check down and we do a number system. And so if it's like a run, then I'm not changing it. You know what I mean? And then sometimes he asked me in the film, like, what did you get here? And I'm thinking, well, I thought you said a different number.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But in reality, in my head, I'm just changing the play. Now, what are you changing the play based on? Are you looking at a safety rotation? You look at this nickel press corner over here. And you're like, okay, they're bringing a little pressure over here. Or are you like, hey, it's seven and three. We're here to score touchdowns. I'm here to ball out, coach.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's like tendency. You know what I mean? Like, oh, first drive against, let's say they were playing Bama. First drive against Bama, they brought the house second and short. All right. Man and man, I'm expecting man and man. Let's take the top off. I mean, we, listen, we can jump around.
Starting point is 00:05:13 We have to jump around all of your, like, your career. The no offers. You have two D2 offers. You go to the Jucco route and you jump around essentially with kill your entire career. But like, you did bring up something. that was that Vanderbilt hasn't done since when. Ever. Ever.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It never been to top five program. Never. In program history. I've never done that. And I remember sitting at Titan U at Vanderbilt's practice facility and your boys running up. And obviously I see the office of linemen. We'd dab up. You got a bunch of cats just ripping around talking about, oh shit, we did this, we did that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm like, this white guy, what's this guy doing right here? But then they're like, always starting, hey, this Pavia kid, this Pavia kid. His kid's the truth. The world ball. Like, you get to, you get to play Alabama. at Vanderbilt, it's a totally different atmosphere. Well, it's still an away game for you guys. Because at this point, we don't have the lore of Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt yet.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And so you have this stadium under construction. Nick Saban, or no, this is. Kaylin Dubour. Yeah, Kailin DeBore. They come in and you guys put on a clinic. Like it's like they score, you guys go down the field, eight, nine, ten plays, score again back and forth and are able to beat Alabama. Like, obviously, I've known you a little bit of time.
Starting point is 00:06:24 always confidence. But like how, at what point where you're like, holy shit, we're really going to do this? Like it's actually not talk anymore. We're actually going to be able to pull this off. Like when we won, I would just think like when I, when we pulled the ball and I got like a 12 yard gain
Starting point is 00:06:39 and then like the game was over. But like I always thought like we could win. Like I know, like that's just how I approach the game though. It's just like if you go in there with the losing mentality, you're screwed already. And so for me, I don't care if it's Bama, Nebraska, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:07:01 We don't say the N words. Do you get something against Michigan? I do. What's up? Well, Michigan's a great school, but they should be winning more than they should with the cap that they got. Like Day Portnoy donates to Michigan. I know the NILs to the roof.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Should you not win? Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, we won seven games last year with throwing terms. turned off. Like, if you're talking about, hey, there's multiple phases to an offense, you're going to take off probably like a 50% of an offense and still win seven games and just knock down, drag them out, three yards in a cloud of dust. The running back was good, though. He should have went higher than what he did in the draft. You know, he started his first 20 games at the University of Michigan.
Starting point is 00:07:45 He was a linebacker. I did not know that. I got to make this cat a running back. He's really good. Yeah, he's solid. Where's he at now? Come on, T. I think he went to the Jets.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm not sure. But, yeah, I mean, listen, tough year. We win the national championship. You must have figured out about that in 2024. And then we go into this past year, yeah, we had some difficulties at quarterback. Not going to come at the boys at all. We had a hard time tossing the ball over the yard. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It was not great. Now we got this cat, Bryce Underwood, who apparently is the second coming. I'm a little nervous about that. But you've got to assume at the very least we're going to be a little bit better. I think in the throwing categories were last year because I think our defense is going to be really good. Yeah. I think he'll be really good too. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Have you met him before? No, I haven't, but like I've seen in some of my boys that know him, they say it's pretty good. You guys' confidence is obviously very high coming off of last year. You had an incredible year, iconic, best in program history, really. First time you guys ever beat a top five program in the program's history, at home against Alabama. You guys go down to Bear Bryant Stadium this year. you, in your brain, you think the outcome is going to be the same? For sure.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I have no doubt. Like, we got the guys to go do it. We got the firepower. We got the depth, got the defense, the offense. Like, we would be selling yourself short if I was to sit here and tell you, like, we don't have the fate to go win the national championship. You guys are you boys are thinking Natty. Yeah. You guys are sitting here in your off-season program.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You're thinking national championship. I don't want to be rude. that's a very high expectation for you guys if you guys don't win a national championship is that a disappointment for sure you you win 10 games in the SEC you're in the tournament and then it's anyone's game
Starting point is 00:09:38 and you like you I like me over everyone I love the chip he has on his shoulder with it too because when he talks you're like hey you play for Vanderbilt but like Loki the way he's talking about I believe everything's saying we interrupt this episode because we are sponsored by row. We were just coming off Father's Day weekend.
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Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. Like we were talking about wrestling, and wrestling's a true one-on-one sport. Who's better me or you? And so I feel like I developed it from wrestling, for real. Yeah, I was going to ask, too, how much do you think, like, wrestling played into that? It's right.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like, you go out there, it's one-on-one. The win is on you, the loss is on you. Right. And you being as competitive as you were, like learning that about you being number one in the nation growing up. Like, he was hitting the circuits, like the Triple Crown, Tulsa, Reno. We were chopping it up pretty good
Starting point is 00:11:21 because I had no clue that he had a bag like that. Been wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're finding common friends, common people that we have in common. Did he ever come across Cody? No, because he was like, how old was your brother? I asked how old he was. He was like, oh, yeah, this is about a decade ago.
Starting point is 00:11:37 But yeah, I was like, you know, Cody, how we won senior nationals. And he's like, again, he was a stud wrestler. So he understands, he understands the respect there. Yeah. He gets the game. You talked about being like number one in the nation from fourth to seventh grade. high school, did you keep wrestling all the way through? No, I really took a year off, eighth grade year.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I knew I loved football, not wrestling. So I was really just focusing on football. And then I had no offers, but I, and I still had a partial scholarship to UNC, Northern Colorado. And then after that, I was like, now I'm still in stick with football, walked on in Juko. So you had a partial for wrestling, Northern Colorado. And you opted to go to Jukor out and football. just because you loved it more. Walk on football.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Dude, people are going, people always talk about how like, you know, you look at a guy like Cam Ward, zero offers at a high school, he's now that first overall pick. When you are going your freshman through senior year of high school
Starting point is 00:12:34 and you're putting it out there every single week, you're obsessed with football, you love it, I'm assuming you have the same mentality you do now. Like, what level of frustration is coming to you when you're seeing other quarterbacks, probably in the same state as you've been like,
Starting point is 00:12:45 bro, I am better than him. Why are they offering this cat instead of me? Like, talk about like, yeah, that mind frame and all that things. Because there are cats right now that are listening to this podcast that are probably in the same exact situation. Like I feel like am I just delusional?
Starting point is 00:12:58 I swear to God, I'm better than these other guys. Oh yeah, you see it all the time. And then you go to camps too. And you're putting balls like in way better spots. And this kid's like a four star. And you're like, what the fuck? How is that kid a four star? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:09 But like you don't want a player hate either. And like go to coaching about, yo, what the like why you got offering this kid and not me. But like at the same time like the cream rises to the top. every time. So what was the journey like when you were in Juko? Because I want to say that there was a story that they were kind of briefing us on that you were still, you know, not having any offers. Did you go to the Juko National Championship? Yeah. So there was another quarterback there that you played against that had an offer. This is why I like Juko too because like the coaches there.
Starting point is 00:13:37 There's a lot of politics in like D1 now. Who gets paid more is going to play. In Juko, don't matter if you're a five star, no star. Coaches try to make it out too. So it's best player on the field all times. And so I transferred in with this four star and it was me versus four star. And I legitimately beat out a four star. That's when I knew stars didn't mean nothing. And then took it over and then the next year we won the national championship and then I finally got, I had three offers. I had Jackson State where Dion was, New Mexico State and then St. Francis. And the New Mexico State one, because that's where you opted to go, was the quarterback you were facing in that national title game? He was an offered kid from New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Mexico State, you ball out. They end up flipping. So our head coach, Coach Kill, and coach Beck, our offense coordinator, were at Hooters in Los Cruces, New Mexico. They told me this story. And they're at Hooters having a beer, whatever, they're hammered. And they're watching the game. The night before they offered the other kid that we're about to play against. And my OC knows I kind of like get fired up about that stuff. So he comes in my room. He's like, hey, they offered the other kid don't worry about it just play better than him tomorrow bet went out there i i had like three touchdowns 270 yards probably like 80 rushing beat him like 31 14 or something and then the next day i got a call from coach kill like i was offered they pulled his scholarship and he told
Starting point is 00:15:09 you they pulled this kid scholarship yeah they told me like the exact story right yeah and were you okay this no i'm i'm thinking about it uh later down the road like what was was about coach kill was it really at the time just like you know they offered that the biggest school i'm going to go there or was there already a relationship kind of intact with coach kill no i was thinking about going to jackson state but dion was so real he was like hey you're like you're not put this ain't no 50 50 my son's playing regardless and he said that yeah yeah and so even if you were better than she even if you're better like my son's playing regardless he's like we're looking for a backup he's like if you want to come here and be back of him and i'm thinking my head like i ain't no
Starting point is 00:15:44 fucking backup you know what i mean so i was like i'm not going to St. Francis because I can't go to Lee from there. So I was thinking, shit, New Mexico State's my only option. Damn. What was it like getting recruited by Dion? It was pretty cool. It was short. It was short, but he was real. That's what I like. Yeah. Man, that is all. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, Dion Sanders sitting there and for him to sit there with all the Shador Sanders stuff going on, he falls in the draft of the fifth round. Yeah. And essentially, you look back five, six years ago. He's like, hey, Diego, like, we'd love to have you. But like, you'll be holding a clipboard because no matter what my son's point.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah. Even if you're throwing dots. Yeah. And obviously the wrong guy to tell that to. Yeah. Another good trip on a shoulder. Right. Like you got a lie.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. Yeah. You don't be less truthful. Production saying just keep the mic close to your mouth. Production. Um, when you go to New Mexico State, remind me,
Starting point is 00:16:37 is this when the world was starting to open up with transferring an NIO yet? No, it was the year before. So it might have been 2021, 2020. Yeah. because I'm asking because I'm thinking. I think it's 2022.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And I just started creeping up. So you're probably thinking, Juko, this is probably the best route so far with New Mexico State. If I ball out here, I can get to a better program. Were you even thinking that yet? No, uh, I was thinking shit. Well, I lived in New Mexico my whole life. So it was like, uh, I wanted to play against the Lobos.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 there's a little story about it that before the year I pissed on their lobo like in the mid in the midfield of their indoor and like before the game no one said anything about it and they were using it as fuel and they thought they're going to beat us and then be like use it against me after you know what I mean anyway went in there wiped them out the head coach was all sad and stuff but I really had something against them because they didn't recruit me either out of Juco and I won a national championship. They were still losing and or at a high school. So it was like real life like beef with the coaches. It was personal for you. Yeah. So you're thinking of myself. It's a tail is oldest time.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. Like I'm from the state. I want to go to this school. I'm assuming you want to go to go to the Lobos. Yeah. And then they don't offer. And it's like, I'll show you. Yeah. Now I got to go piss on their logo. Now I got to piss on their logo. What transpired. Yeah. What conversations had to take place or what went through your brain where you're like, you know what? I know how to get these boys. I'm to urinate on the 50-R line. I'm sure by a whole lot of thought process. There was no thought. There was no thoughts.
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Starting point is 00:21:38 But yeah, what's the, what's the, What's the thought process? We're like, there was no thinking. It was no, yeah, you don't say. Fuck these guys. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a blue mountain state type shit.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You go on Johnny Mansell, Blue Mountain State. What's the old Billy Bob? Varsity Blues. I don't watch that one. He just put the VCR tapes in as a kid. I was like, this is gonna be my fucking life. This is what I'm doing. So you just went and pissed in the 50-year line.
Starting point is 00:22:06 How did they find out that you did that? So the, the. The guy who I was with Reggie, he posted on Snapchat and then they like, so you were with a, you're with a buddy and he was Snapchat. I was with like three buddies. Look at this picture. This fucking cat. Got sweatpants on. I was with like three buddies and one of them recorded it, but I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And then I came back to my phone and they're like, hey, tell Reggie you take that off. And I took it off and it was too late. They already got a hold of it. I already got a hold of it. The news network of New Mexico. Yep. They jumped all over that shit. But you who whipped their ass?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Hell, yeah. We'll score that game. We beat them by like 10. Okay. So you guys. 10, 14. Something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:53 When does it start to sink in? Or like, when does the conversations in thought process start to happen that I can go somewhere else now? So what happened was at New Mexico State, we were two and three ended up 10 and three. So like by game, we're like. on a win streak and we're about to go to the conference championship and stuff. And so like before that, like a game before when we're like nine and three, my coach gets in my ear like, hey, I got someone calling me from a Power 4 school. You'd really like it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I want you to come with me when the season's over. It's like, all right, bet. Like this is my opportunity, you know. And so he's doing his thing. And then it's our offensive coordinator. So our offensive coordinator at the end of the season leaves. and he's like, all right, I'm going to Vandy. And so he wanted me to come with him.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But Coach Kiel's still at New Mexico State. Then Coach Kiel, a week later, decides to retire. And then I was like, okay, well, if I hire the defense coordinator, then I'll stay. Didn't hire him. That was my sign later. So if New Mexico State were to hire the D.C., you would have stayed. I would have stayed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Gotcha. What was about the D.C. that you were like, they got to hire this guy. He was real. He was going to pay me the money I wanted. Okay. And shoot, he was like, he was the one who, like our defense was really good in Mexico State. So I was thinking, okay, well, we could win here. And then there's like a chance, like how Boyd State went to the playoffs, like that, we'd be that team.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Mm-hmm. That whole team was freaking stacked. Like we got, we got Eli. We got me, Eli, M.K. Trent. Well, these are just guys on the team. You're saying first names to me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm just saying first name is too. But these guys are dogs. But we got dogs on team. We got like seven of the guys from New Mexico State team on the Vanderbilt team. And was there a situation where you were possibly going to go be a part of the Wolfpack, Nevada? I committed to Nevada. So this is while you're at New Mexico State, you're going a little visit? So, yeah, I took some visits.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And the whole time that I'm taking visits, I'm like, back of my mind, I'm thinking I'm going to Vandy. So the whole time I have a notebook that I'm taking on these visits, I really didn't know how to read a defense when I was at New Mexico State. And I'm like just penciling in like just. just meeting with the offensive coordinators, how they, how they read the defense, you know, middle close, middle open, blitz, how they call. And I'm just taking little, like, details away from these offensive coordinators just in case I do go back to Vandy, like how to clean stuff up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And this one, you were looking and taking visits and thinking about Vandy. Right. Was Coach Kiel, had he not retired yet? So he, so he retired. And then I was like, because Coach Kills, like, basically kind of like my dad. And so, like, when he retired, I was like, you know, I'm just going to Nevada. Like Nevada, I really like Nevada. I like Coach Choate.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And then I commit that night and I called Coach Beck, who's the offense coordinator of Vandy. And I'm like, hey, like, I'm committed to Nevada. Like, appreciate you guys. He's like, wait, wait, wait, I got something to call you. Coach Kill calls me, tell me he's coming out of retirement to be basically just be on the Vanderbilt staff and just take care of the offense. So then my mom was like, yeah, you're going to go to Vannibald. So yeah, I'm going to bandy. And have you been to Vandy at this point yet?
Starting point is 00:26:13 No, I never took a visit. So did you have no idea about Nashville, Tennessee or the area or nothing like that? No idea. You just saw SEC in fact. I knew there in the SEC. I got to get there. What did you throw in there? Right?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Are you, are you good? Go with what? Did I say something? Do you know the three conferences of the NFL? AFC, NFC, and SEC. But the two last national champions were. were from the Big Ten, right? But who has more?
Starting point is 00:26:44 How are you going to... But is there more in the Big Ten or SEC? This new era of college football has to kind of play out. Yeah, like the NIL is established a little playing field. Like, we all sit here. Everybody can pay players now. Right. Everybody can pay players.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Not just the one conflict. Because you're right. It is AFC, NFC, and SEC if we're talking about paychecks. But now that everybody can pay everybody, it's like, okay, now it's just AFC, NFC, and then the rest of college football. So do you think the Big Ten... has a higher percentage of winning it this year, the SEC? The Big Ten.
Starting point is 00:27:16 The national title? Yeah. Yeah, big ten. Oh, absolutely. I mean, listen. You guys know what's back from my mouth. Do what? You guys know.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah. Uh-oh. Is that double? Oh, that's more than double. But if you look at the recency, like that, so those 43 national championships, how many of those came after NIL started? That's the question you got to ask. because the SEC, yeah, you guys are going to have a national champion.
Starting point is 00:27:43 You guys are paying seven figures to players when I was in college. It's probably like two and two. I don't think it is. Yeah, two and two. You're saying that day 10 didn't pay players? I know. No, we were, this is a clean conference. Clean conference.
Starting point is 00:28:00 High character conference. Don't do that. As far as I know. Two and two. As far as I know. Two and two. Right. Two and two.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And the last two have been. I could if we were having this podcast in 2022 I would have said the last two have been in the SEC but we're not right if that we were if if if this was 1912 we'd be talking about how the Titanic sunk a couple months ago like what we'd be talking about like if I'd go back in time I would invest in Netflix that would like yeah exactly we're living in the now brother that is true about crazy shit so speaking us since the NIL era give us your first run in the NIL game because clearly you had some going on with either staying in New Mexico State, want to go to Nevada, now I'm going to commit to Vandy. So your first crack in the NIL game? First crack in the NIL game, I was getting paid $1,400 at New Mexico State.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And I was... Per month or for the year? Per month. Okay. And I was pissed because Eli Stowers was getting $3,000 a month. And he played tight-in and I played quarterback. So you're pissed because on your own team, this is the internal locker room.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Internal locker. I'm like, man, fuck that. Like, I need to go harder. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then it all worked itself out. And then when Nevada's recruiting you, like, what are they telling you? Am I allowed to say that?
Starting point is 00:29:19 I think. Is he not? Why wouldn't he be? I think so. We could double check. But essentially, when you are in the transfer portal, people come to you in there, like, we could pay you this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Right. Like they, like they, everything you hear on the internet. I don't even know what's on the internet. Yeah. It's like when, so for example, House is, house his car. Today's a four-year, $10.2 million deal. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You learn that stuff, but it's not so, you know, candid that you understand what everybody makes in the NFL. So it's more of like hearsay, it's more storytelling. So now that you're at Vanderbilt, a couple of years removed from it, I'm just, I'm truly curious, like when you're like a new guy in that circuit, like what those conversations are actually like. And if they're real, if some of it's fake, you feel like you get lied to. And just even understanding that you had a tight in on your team that was making more
Starting point is 00:30:07 than you. And it's like got a chip on your shoulder because that's stuff that everybody talks about, but you don't really understand until you hear it. And it's like, oh, that is a real thing. So I'm truly asking not on like a gotcha moment. I'm just like, what were these conversations like when you're on a lower level, how much of that weighs into the impact of you actually going to that school? Because just to put things in perspective, when Will and I put in college, you talk about making $1,400. I think I got $1,200 a month. Yeah, we were 80 on a scally check.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. $1.250. And just a blanket statement, these are conversations that he had with people. completely separate from any universities. Yes. Yes. That's a great insurance policy because we're not here to get anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I would just say like, well, coming from that 1400 to like these other schools were offering me like a like a car houses and in like big time money, it's like holy shit, you know, like. It was big like that even with like Nevada and when you were coming out of New Mexico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. And so like obviously this. last year I didn't go in the portal or anything because I knew where I want to stay. The most important thing to me is like playing time and then obviously winning a national
Starting point is 00:31:16 championship and we got the guys to go do it. So I would I would never leave these guys. So New Mexico when you're thinking about Nevada, Vandy, is there an amount of money that you stay at New Mexico State? Like has it come down to, obviously there's other factors. Going with your coaches, going with Coach Kill who seems like a father figure to you. I'm sure they probably get a little bit more home-time discount. That was priceless of like them obviously taking.
Starting point is 00:31:40 me in New Mexico State, that's like, that's priceless. And then I would have stayed at New Mexico State for $100,000. And then at Bandy, the quarterback they just brought in, they paid him way over $100,000. And they offered me $150,000. And I was like, but I didn't know that. You know what I mean? I'm going from $1,000 to $150,000. I'm like, oh, sign me up. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so that's how I took you last year. How does college football work when guys are getting paid this much? Like, do you guys have meetings with financial advisors? Do you have people come in and be like, how do tax, like, do you understand taxes,
Starting point is 00:32:19 these brackets? Like, do you have people that are taking care of all this for you? Yeah, I hate taxes. Everyone does. Isn't it crazy? Like the minute. It's awful. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But I live in Nashville, Tennessee, too. That's a lot of things that players don't get is like the taxes here, like here, Florida. And there's like seven states. But taxes, what else did he ask? just how the process works with college football and making sure everyone's financially illiterate. So Vanderbilt does a good job of bringing in, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:49 ex-players or alumni that are big-time people who work in like the business and they come back and tell us all about it. Like we have probably eight, nine meanings on it. When you were younger and coming into this new money, was there ever like a shock or surprising moment of like, oh, fuck, I'm doing a little too much because you're just now learning about
Starting point is 00:33:08 what taxes are, financial advice you're starting to get. Maybe Coach Kills checking on your mom. Right. Like, oh, okay, I wasn't seeing this right way. I thought I'd get all this. Yeah. I give it to my all to my mom and she handles it. That's nice.
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Starting point is 00:34:16 For the kids and women, they got a line launching later this year. Look good, play good. We love True Classic. Let's get back to the episode. When you go to Vandy, get into Nashville for the first time. You're talking all your new teammates, your new coaches. They obviously brought in another quarterback who was making more money than you. Like, what was your first, not like welcome to the NFL moment
Starting point is 00:34:38 or like welcome to the SEC, but you feel like you're in a different league than you were in New Mexico State? I don't know if I ever had one. Let me think. Yeah, I never really had one. I said I've had my welcome to the SEC moment. So when you get to practice,
Starting point is 00:34:56 your first practice from being in New Mexico State go to Vanderbilt and SEC school, the speed wasn't different to you, nothing was different to you? No, I thought I felt pretty good the whole time. and then especially like taking on those trips like I was just studying the game a lot more but I would say like maybe the workouts were like a little bit more intense but I think our locker room was or our weight room was bigger at Mexico State so it just gets hotter quicker
Starting point is 00:35:24 and the humidity yeah humidity is a gangster yeah that'll get you joke dude that'll get you were you second or where were you on the depth chart when you first got here in my mind or other people's mind in other people's mind in other people's mine. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news.
Starting point is 00:35:43 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:38:13 whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On the whiteboard when you walk into the quarterback meeting room, what do you see your thing at?
Starting point is 00:38:31 So I obviously, I knew the offensive coordinator and he never put us like one above the other but I knew I was going to win the job other people thought like maybe the other kid was going to win but it was like you turn on the tape it's night and day how quickly did you know because like this kid's getting paid more you didn't know that at the time but you figure out he's getting paid more you guys go out to spring practice obviously you're confident but you're seeing this kid throw was it very quick you realized okay oh yeah it was like it was like oh yeah it's beat But then it was like, okay, I need to renegotiate my contract,
Starting point is 00:39:06 but I'm going to be playing over this kid, you know what I mean? Yeah, dude. But you can't, yeah, you can't really do that in the NCAA. How do you balance all that mentally? Like not letting your ego take over too much, like when that stuff is coming up. Shoot, it's like if I really want it, then I go to the league. I'm going to get paid more in the league than in college. We have a teammate of yours, Cade.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He's sitting on the back. You want to hand him a Mike? Cade, when did you know it was going to be, Diego was going to win the job. Was it as quick as he was realizing it? Yeah, it was pretty quick. And as an O'Lyman, you get real close to your quarterback. I mean, everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And I think it was honestly during summer workouts and stuff. Just we had a, you know, you're holding arms with everybody for team bonding, doing lunges across the field. And everyone, we're all a new team. We're all trying to figure out who's talking. And Diego gets out in front of everyone's like, like everyone, and shut the fuck up. Like, I'm talking right now.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Like, you guys, this is what we're going to do. So then that's when it was like, all right. Like, this is over before it starts kind of. But we knew. And like, the first time I met Diego, he had blonde, blonde tips in his hair. Yeah, he did. I was like, this kid's either going to be insane
Starting point is 00:40:20 or we're a little fucked. Yeah. You know, it was quick as he knew it, yeah, for sure. What's the relationship looking like from both of your perspectives of you with this other quarterback who comes in essentially thinks he's going to start and then you come in you're in team meetings or everyone's locked arms doing lunges you're like this shit's not good enough or whatever the speech is are you see kid are you seeing kind of like a little friction or are you
Starting point is 00:40:43 pretty cool the other quarterback there's there's like that competitive friction that you have with like everyone that you go into a new room with but uh i guess i think he was like uh like one time i'll tell you this story one time i cracked a joke and Maybe it was an inappropriate joke. And he was loving it when, like, he was projected a start. You know what I mean? And I cracked the same joke when I was starting. And then he, like, texted the coaches about it and was like, hey, like, Diego, that was an inappropriate joke by him.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like, he needs to say sorry. And then, like, I had to call him. And he's like, bro, that was not cool, this and that. And it was just like, all right. So there's two phases of that question. One, you recycle jokes? Yeah, if they're good. Yeah, if they're good.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. We recycle jokes. No, no, no, yeah, I'm fucking around. And two, like, what? You were trying to catch me right then. No, I can't do it. You know what my mind went to was you in Portnoy a couple years ago because you said a joke to him.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah, like, and then at the Super Bowl, you did the same thing. He was like, on your ass about recycling jokes. It was the same day. I went over, I went over, I made a joke. I forget what it was, but about like a jacket or something. Yeah. And one of the boys were saying about me and they laughed.
Starting point is 00:41:55 They've also kind of heard the joke. But when the boys laughed, I'm like, all right, I'm going to take it to a bigger. Oh, yeah, that one's going to work. Yeah, once you have more people, you know this joke's solid. Yeah. I recycle the game with the women, too. It works and works.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You recycle what? The game was like the game with the women, too. The shit works. Like when he's spitting game. Yeah. Like, and so then Dave obviously jumps on. It's like, oh, you're recycling jokes now. It's like, that's what.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, it's what you do. Like, Dave, you haven't said the same words in the same sentence. forever again, but that's basically where I got that. When you weren't starting, what was the joke? His girlfriend made something to eat, and it was sushi. And I was like, oh, you're having sushi twice tonight, huh? And he was laughing his ass off. And then I made the joke again.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I was like, hey, what are you having again? Sushi twice? And then that was the same joke. And he was like all up in arms about that. Yeah, he probably got to cut that. I feel like, you know, this is a college quarterback. All right here, first off, dude, I love how open you are because you don't get a lot of quarterbacks doing that.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But I don't want you to sit in a team meeting at Vanderbilt. The coach would be like, what are we doing? He's gone now, he's gone now. He's gone now. Where's he at? He's at Utah. I mean, people can look this up where he's, he's at the youths. Like, people don't know where this guy is.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's crazy. That's crazy. That's fucking insane. It's, uh, starting spring camp, you're second on the depth chart, they're in the depth chart? Uh, there was like no depth chart. Like, we were rotating between three quarterbacks, though. Got you. Open competition.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Open competition. We're all of you guys transferring from other schools to Vanderbilt or was there? Two transfers, one kid that's been there. One kid that's been there. Is he, and is that kid still there? Yeah. He's actually really talented. He's got a strong arm.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Really? Yeah. I think if he went to like more of a pro style, like he'd pop more. He's really good. so why why do you think have you had that conversation with him like yeah he's like hey man maybe you go and do this and what year is he yeah he's uh he has two more years left but that banderbilt degree is something to him yeah that means a really smart kid yeah sure going like in the year this year were you aware that you were going to get an extra year at first like what are you
Starting point is 00:44:22 hearing you have a you have a legendary year Vanderbilt you guys exceeded all expectations you're having a hell of a run like are you talking to NFL are you thinking NFL or you think i want to get an extra year there could be a possibility like what was that process like for you at the end of the season looking at the next this year that we're in now yeah well we beat we beat uh so we're two and two then we beat bam and then we beat kentucky and then like kentucky game i got kind of hurt um that big motherfucker, Dionne Walker just sat on me. And it was like, all right. And then I'm kind of like straggling out the whole year. And so when it was brought up to me that I could play, possibly play another year, I was like, oh yeah, let's do it. So then I just, it got filed and had a really good lawyer
Starting point is 00:45:10 and everything worked out. It wasn't, like where you, you weren't even considering the potential or maybe looking around for the next level yet? No, I was. I was asking like Coach Lee, like about agents and things like that and what the, you know, scouts are saying and what they wanted to see. But it was just, I think, in my favor to get two years under the SEC underneath my belt. And then, you know, we win the national championship and I win the Heisman, then there's no, there's no reason why I don't get drafted first round. Based on the feedback that you heard from the next level, like what chip on your shoulder do you have now? Like, what, what things were you hearing? They said I need to get maybe better as a
Starting point is 00:45:52 say in the pocket don't leave as much and so I need to work the pocket more okay do you agree with that criticism or do you think you do that really well I could get better at everything but I mean we had a lot of a lot of play calls to you know roll outside the pocket for you know they got the like Dylan Stewart off the edge is is really good James Pierce is off the edge is really good so I think doing little things to make sure those guys get off my back and then just letting me make plays. I feel like that's where I'm best as making plays. Yeah, improv.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Improvisation on the field. Yep. When did you realize that you had that capability to take the X's and O's of a play? It's drawn up a certain way in a whiteboard, but you can extend plays and figure it all out. Little League football. I have some pretty nice tape in Little League football. Nasty. Yeah, some nasty tapes.
Starting point is 00:46:49 But I think that's when I figured it out. and just having the confidence that I do and then installing it in like the guys around me and then you become unstoppable. How, as a guy who's pissing them on a logo back in New Mexico State and you have the stories of Diego and all the fun that you have on the field,
Starting point is 00:47:13 shit talking and everything else, how do you feel like you've approached maybe this year, whether it's a little bit differently because you could be going to the professional level and being a little bit more conscious about everything that you're doing? Do you feel like you've had, you know, a moment to where you've kind of reflected on things and thinking like, hey, the act is awesome. It's a lot of fun, but I also got to kind of put my head down and work a little bit more because it is a bit of an uphill
Starting point is 00:47:36 battle at times. Right. Yeah. I've actually done a lot of reflecting on how I could get better. One is being in the training room more. I'm always around the facility. Like I get there. I wake up at five every morning, wake my bed, you know, pray to God. And then I like, I'm in the facility by about 6, 15, and I don't lead till about 6. So I'm just doing everything I can, possible to stay healthy for the season. Another thing, too, was like, sometimes when I say I would party, I mean that I would have a good time, you know, laugh at my friends. I rarely drink.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I'd be lying if I said I didn't drink, but I rarely drink. And so, like, those staying up late affected me for Sunday, which rolled over to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then it was just like a trickle effect. So like I feel like Sunday once I get home after the game I need to you know stretch getting my little thing after the game on Saturday and then be ready to go for the next week. Yeah. It's got to be hard too when you're when you're doing things at Vanderbilt that haven't been done in a long time. You're essentially reviving an entire, you know, program.
Starting point is 00:48:42 You guys are carrying the goalpost down fucking Broadway. That was where I was going to go with that. Like you beat Alabama and you take the goalpost and you march their thing all the way down to the Cumberland River. Like what? Where were you doing that? Are you, are you, rushing the field, get in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:48:58 like, hey, let's speed up this speech. I got to go. Boys got to have a little bit of fun. Because that's a long-ass way down the Broadway. Yeah. No, it is.
Starting point is 00:49:06 My brothers and my family are like really crazy. Like, crazy in a good way. But like, and I'll tell you guys the story how crazy they are. But like, they were like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 bro, hurry that shit up. Like, we got to fucking bounce. We, they literally Sunday, the day after, they literally opened the bar.
Starting point is 00:49:24 and ended the bar, like, until it was closed. And it was just like, bro, these guys are wild. You know what I mean? So, like, obviously you want to join them and stuff, but you got responsibilities. So that's what makes it, like, that's what makes it hard. Obviously, they're only in town for like a few days and then they go back. Yeah. But, I mean, we had some really good times this year for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:44 How was that night? Kate, you can talk about it too, but the night you guys do beat Alabama and take them down. And the city is just absolutely on fire. We all went to Broadway. Let's pretend we're all retired. Just pretend we're all retired. You sure? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Relive the glory day. Are we sure we want to do that? Taking down the Crimson Tide. There's a team that's won, you know, 41 of those 43 national championships. Oh. Like, it was a good time. You get the 12-year game. The game is over.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Games, though. All 15 Vanderbilt fans are on the fields. They are, I'm, dude, hey, let's live in reality. Like, you guys are playing away games at home. And that's changing because of you guys. There's 35. 15. Like people are juicedy fuck up.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Look at that kid. He's getting after right there. They're loving it, dude. 17? This kid, 17's got the same size of legs as me. He's getting after it, bro. But I'm just saying like these fans storm the field. You are now probably realizing like we've done something for the first time ever.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah. Like this is incredible. But it's spots where you win just a fucking massive game. The vibes are absolutely psychotic. Psychotic. I really didn't, I really didn't, it didn't hit me until like a week, a week after. Like, like maybe we have to beat Kentucky or something. Like, it really didn't hit me until then.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But that night was, it was jumping for sure. I mean, we, we went to all went to Barstall. The whole top was renting out for us. You know, we stood up so late that night. And then they thought we're going to lose to Kentucky. Beat them the next week, too. but it that's that's when I got hurt but I feel like God kind of gave me a signal right there
Starting point is 00:51:28 was like hey you can't just go out and party when you have a big wins like I'm gonna give you more big wins just you can't party like that and so that that's like for this year you know what I mean that's why you gave me another year yeah so it's like get it right this time how was the experience from from your vantage point because you know office alignment they're like we're getting the fuck we're getting after this but lights yeah it was good um I don't even know if He knows this, but I lasted an hour and a half at the bar.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Like, it was a quick night for me. And that doesn't happen very often. And so I was getting after it pretty hard. But not like the field rush stuff, like he was probably the calmest in the huddle, which is surprising. Once he got that first down, there was some kind of there was some antics on the field everybody knows about. But we were kind of all the huddle. You talked about when nobody did the shove or kicked the ball or hit the ball. We had the ball kicks.
Starting point is 00:52:22 The safety, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:52:32 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:54:57 Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Push in the face. And I had only played that drive. Like I sat for three and a half hours the whole game And then got it on the on the four minute drive To get the first downs and win the game against the number one ranked team
Starting point is 00:55:24 And I was like, oh shit like You know my knees hurt already getting in a stance And so all the antics whatever He gets the first down face pushed in the ground I kind of ran after it a little bit But like we got back in the huddle he's like all right all right all right Like we got to get this snap We got to get this snap because it's victory
Starting point is 00:55:43 And he was the most calm one And then the field rush went to the locker room and everyone's like in the locker room like, we all right, let's let's get out of here. Yeah. We got some stuff to handle. Yeah. Dude, talk to me about the emotion of a field rush. Like as a player, I only had to experience that I think one time and that's when we beat Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And it is like the most electric feeling in the entire world. When all the fans are on the field, they're jumping, they're grabbing you, they're pulling you. You essentially feel like the biggest star in the world for a moment. Like, what was that like for you guys? It was nuts. I had all my boys there, too. I wasn't trying to lose that football right there. That was the one.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You were trying to get it too. That was the one. He was trying to snipe that thing. And then NIL now, like, my jersey sold for like 40,000. That jersey? Yeah. Why didn't you keep the jersey? Huh?
Starting point is 00:56:40 I should have. You know the guy that has it, though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of these guys that I don't know. and he's a good people do he's a good guy good enough guy to give it back to you uh there's only one way to find out yeah yeah i check for 41,000 dollars good people man what uh what was uh for you your best freestyle most memorable style play for yourself where you kind of went off the went off the whiteboard and made something
Starting point is 00:57:15 happen the coaches weren't expecting it uh at new mexico state we're playing against U-Tip and it's like two-minute drill and I call my own play and I do all birds and I'm thinking I'm about to hit this seam up to Eli but like the safety closes it so I spin out I'm rolling left full speed
Starting point is 00:57:38 this kid come our boy so if we're going that way he comes back and then goes back and I do like a 40 yard dime on the money over the shoulder and he just gets cracked let's fucking go dude What, uh, K, for you, what's this man like in the huddle?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Any moments that stand out? Yeah, so my first play of the Alabama game, like stands out to me of all of them. We're on the goal line and we're running one of our goal line run schemes. And it's a two-play scheme. So we're either running one player or the other. And we hear it because of the cadence. We know which play we're running. And it was my first play of the game.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And he's tired as hell from the, you know, the drive before. And so he's like, ready, break. And I was like, all right. So I kind of just followed the guy I knew I needed to follow.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And I think I just down blocked because I didn't know the play. But that's normally like how he is is normally really calm, normally really collected. Like, all right, guys, like got to get the first year.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Whatever pretty. This quarterback stuff. You know, they got to command the huddle. But that play stands out to me just because he's spitting everywhere and, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:52 I had no idea what the play was. Gotta get the shit. I'll make some checks when we get to the line. Do you have moments that stand out in the huddle? We have a funny guy who like talk shit. His name's Chase Mitchell, but he stutters a lot. So he's like, that boy got to fuck with me. Chase, what he's fucking, bro?
Starting point is 00:59:18 But like, so that, I'd just be laughing. And then like, but now I'm usually like pure business. Trying to get the guys in and out. So I could like make checks. Right. It's game time. This year ready to go. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah. How much after the year was the portal blowing up for you on potential teams wanting you to come be the quarterback for them at a different school? A lot. It was probably like, yeah, it was less reaching out to me. It was like more reaching out to like my brothers and my family and stuff. Was there a dollar amount that you heard that was like, holy shit. Yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to share
Starting point is 00:59:54 But like anywhere from like four to four point five To leave and go somewhere else What conference? SEC Check out In conference In conference Any big ten teams trying to get you?
Starting point is 01:00:10 You want to play with the best You don't want to play with the Big Ten Some cats, man You ignore those calls The last two national titles I know. You ignore those calls. You know that.
Starting point is 01:00:23 You ain't ignoring these calls. But you got to think about this, too. The SEC is like nothing. Like, okay, the Big Ten, you have like Ohio State, Oregon. It's Michigan. Michigan, Penn State, Michigan, Penn State. Yeah. Arguably after this year Nebraska.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I got you kids. Yeah, we will see. I'll finish that since. But like, we just got to be in Iowa. You got all dogs. So, like, you really only have four games. a year. Like the SEC, it's like week after week after, like you're going to get beat on. Like the Big Ten, you ain't going to get beat on with like the Purdue, Nebraska.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like that's a bullshit comment, like a week after week. Like that's, that's real though. Listen, I'm here to have a, I'm here to have a clean podcast. Okay, that's fair. Not here to talk too much shit to start it off. I don't want to, I don't want to shit on any SEC teams. But you guys would have your hands full of Illinois. Oh yeah, Illinois is a good team.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yeah, they are. Yeah. It's a good ball club. What about USC? Yeah, they are, buddy. USC? Yeah. USC's a tough team.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I haven't. Washington. Washington. Iowa. You've got to score seven points. It'll beat Iowa. It's going to be a tough seven points. It's going to be a tough seven-two score.
Starting point is 01:01:45 That is. That is true. You guys resurrected a program. Iowa resurrected an extinct cornerback. Like, that is, you want to talk about who can achieve more. There's a cornerback in the NFL that's white right now. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I know. I know. A couple of them boys. Don't forget about Riley Moss now. Kabritzini is good. Yeah. You know shit. But I'm saying like you have to like the trenches too in the SEC are just different.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Big Ten is the trenches. No. Let's think about this. You want to talk about the best pass rushers are from the SEC except like Abdo Card. Like you'll find one. Like you'll have one. or two. Yeah, the third overall pick this year.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah. But like you got, if the kid from South Carolina could have left, he would have been a first round pick. The freshman? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's a minute. We saw him at, uh, at media days, the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And he looked apart. Yeah. He looked apart. Who was, who was in your mind the best defense he played against all year? The best defense, Texas. Tejas. Yeah. I was at that game.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Bummed you guys couldn't make it out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That kid, Michael Taff, he's good. He's like an elite ball. You know those white kids who are going to be the right play, right time? It's that fucking kid right there. Always going to be in the right spot.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Great technique. Great technique. Yeah. He'll be perfect sound, perfect. I will say this. I thought, man, that ASU Texas game in the playoffs, I thought ASU should have won that game. I know, man. They should have won that game.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I don't like how people shit on Quinn Ewers. Quinn Ewers is good. I don't like that either. Quinn Hewers is a solid quarterback. I don't think anybody was saying that we, I don't think we were shitting on Quinn Ewer. No, no, no, I'm just saying like... I think he's just bringing this out of his own back.
Starting point is 01:03:34 He's thought about this for a minute and he's like, I got to make sure I say this. Yeah. No, no, like he went seven the round. Like, he should have... You got to think about Texas before Quinn. You know what I mean? Like, they were winning too many games.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Then Quinn goes and now they're in the, like, possibly the championship if he doesn't get stripsacked. Right, right. Against a Big Ten football team. Here he goes. I'm just, dude, I mean. That's a fact. That is a fact.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Against a D-end, who was drafted in the third round. He's good. There's a lot of good players in the Big Ten, too. I don't know why we're not going to do that. But there's more in the SEC. There's some good ballplay in the SEC. There's no doubt about it. What the main thing is, is now that everybody can get paid, we definitely equalized.
Starting point is 01:04:16 There's a lot more parity in the game now. Yes. Absolutely. It's two and two, so it's equal right now. We'll find out this year. That's right. Vanderbilt, 2026, right?
Starting point is 01:04:27 I guess it would be 2026 national chance? In Miami. What are your, obviously there's a lot of discussion around the college football playoff in the format. Like what would be your critiques
Starting point is 01:04:35 for the college bowl playoff? You want to see it go to 16? I think that as you've seen, the Big Ten should obviously get the four bids regardless and then they could do whatever they want from there. And you like, you like how they structured it as like, you know, if you win your conference,
Starting point is 01:04:50 you don't automatically get a buy. They're kind of just, they're kind of seeded it true now. Right. Yes. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I think the biggest thing needs to change is right after conference championships, you go right into the next week is the first round. Yeah, not having a big last week's or whatever it is. Like,
Starting point is 01:05:06 let's have all December and let's knock this shit out. Is this their schedule right here? Yeah. That's ours. How do you feel about your guys' schedule this year? You got great. South Carolina,
Starting point is 01:05:16 Alabama. At South Carolina at Alabama. We got ourselves. We got Charleston. We got Charleston, we got Virginia. Indian Tech, South Carolina, Georgia State, Utah State. Every game, any given Sunday, everything Saturday, really?
Starting point is 01:05:29 I mean, what happened on Georgia State? How you guys put on a season like that last year and you have the lapses that you guys did? And shit happens. They came out and they punched us first and then we had the lead like 17 seconds left to go and threw a bomb touchdown. Like a 60-yard bomb.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And we were up by like, Three. That's tough. Yeah, yeah. When you look at the schedule, like you said, you know, every single week you're going out at ball ball. You got to play at Alabama, at Tennessee, at Texas. At South Carolina. At South Carolina.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Sandstorm. Sandstorm playing. That place gets rowdy. I like that. Sleeper place to play. Sleeper place. How many of these games do you come out? 12 games.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I was thinking about asking, but. since he said national championship earlier, I'm like, he's going to say, oh. He's 12 and 0. Yeah. Who do you, okay, who do you think is, which one of these games is like Circle D? Like, this is, I got to make sure. I don't want to give the opponent no fuel. What do they see?
Starting point is 01:06:38 I think at this point, we've already gotten past that. I think every school knows he need to have their cameras on at all time. Yeah. If Diego is in town the day before a game. Game three. Game three. Oh. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Dude, do we say it? I don't even know. Yeah, we can say something. People can go look at South Carolina. Like, this is a podcast. It'll be out to the world. They'll be tough this year, man. They got a squad.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I mean, after what you did to Alabama, too, like, you better keep your head in a swivel, that in Tuscaloosa. I don't know if you have, like, you there's a chance, you might not make it to the game. Some fans go crazy out there. L.O.L. I got my brothers with me.
Starting point is 01:07:14 We're good. Do you feel like, you feel like you guys have more respect in college football right now? Like, do you feel like there's a little bit more pressure that's kind of come with this year? Uh, no. Like, it's just, as long as we get better in our, like, detail, we'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Like, we're really just worried about us right now. Like, we don't really care about what other people say or anything like that. Like, everyone's just focused internally. Yeah. People could be San Diego, one, one hit wonder, one good year. Might be all he has. Right. We're going to put him in his place this year.
Starting point is 01:07:46 There's enough film on him. We see what he does. We know what his tendencies are. We know how to shut him down. Right. Gets a little loose with the ball and he rolls out to the left. Yeah. He's probably going to try to send the pocket a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:07:56 year because he's been hearing the fluff at the next level. Yeah, scouts say you have to sit in the pocket. Don't worry, we'll condense the pocket. We'll contain rush him. This guy came from Juco and New Mexico State. Right. Boys, the kids from New Mexico. Well, you can count on your hand how many guys are coming out of there.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah. That's what they're saying in team meeting rooms right now. They had you circled. And it's a picture with Frost at Tips too. It's not this, it's not this Diego. Yeah. How many teams are in the SEC? 16, I believe.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And right now it looks like your guys' power rankings in the SEC. SEC, you're predicted at 13. It's probably some fat guy who sits on a computer all day. Damn, Josh Pate is in good shape. Josh Pate is, he's got the shoulders in the chest on him. So. What do you think about when you see stuff like that? Like, I know it's just noise, but when you're in home and you're kind of going through
Starting point is 01:08:46 some of this shit. I really don't, I've never seen this site before. What is this? T.S. It's two for seven. to have our guy Barton Simmons um used to works for two or cents but like I don't mistake him for it because like real players fuck up too so okay they'll just find out after do you talk to me about the sea on your chest the sea the sea captain oh okay yeah going from the Mexico
Starting point is 01:09:13 state you transferred over Vannebel you're earning these guys trust what was that process like for you um it was actually really dope like uh you know taking out the O lineman to eat and stuff is uh is really cool. And then just knowing the guys, like everyone comes out from like a unique background. And you find out like things about these guys. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:34 some of them, well now like a lot of us, not us, like I don't have a kid. But a lot of them have kids and stuff. And you're going to meet their kids and bring them around. And, um,
Starting point is 01:09:44 it's just really cool to like earn their trust. Where are we taking them? Um, could he do better? Could he do better on how he treat you guys? Have you heard of Sinkgo to Mio? Yes, dude. We went to Sting a Mio.
Starting point is 01:10:01 We went to Shingo to Mio twice, and then we were supposed to go to Eddie V's this past weekend, but not a lot of the guys could go. You haven't gotten these boys a little room at Kane Prime or up at Bourbon Steak? I'm trying to work for you right now, can't? I told you other schools were offered me four million, not Vandy. You said what?
Starting point is 01:10:21 Other schools were offering me $4 million, not Vandy. Dude, hey, legit. So we ever flirt with the idea of leaving Vanderbilt? No, I never flirted with it. Maybe for a moment. One moment. You saw the number and you're like, hmm. I mean, the number, the numbers are great.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Like, the numbers are great. But, like, winning is more important to me than anything. And we got the squad to go do it. When you're breaking it down with your agent or whoever your representation is or you're talking with the coaches, how uncomfortable does it get at times? Like you might hear the rumors of $4 million and it's like, you know, we're all in the game of business a little bit more now. And it's like you want to leverage the number. How much should I try and leverage the number and get to a spot that I feel comfortable? I don't want to piss anybody off.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Like, how's that going for you mentally when you are in that process of potentially, you know, them feeling like you could potentially leave? Right. It was difficult for sure because like you got. Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news.
Starting point is 01:11:20 we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
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Starting point is 01:14:04 Coach Kill and Coach Beck Like relying on you to come back And then, but it's like all the money game And then like you got other schools offering you four million And they don't want to pay you four million but you're like, all right, but like, you took a chance on me. So, like, I understand that. And then, um, freak, I was going to say something, too.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Like, uh, they, they told me the things that I wanted to hear of, uh, how they're going to build the offense, you know, what receivers are going to go get. Um, and they were telling me, like, we could pay, we could pay you that, but we are not going to have enough money to go get these guys to go throw the ball around. Yeah. And it just made sense to me. Like, man, I, I, I. value winning over anything else so how like perfect how well did they do going and getting some of these pieces that they were talking to you about really good yeah it's like playing with a new toy every day you just throw the ball as far as you can you have you have some fast little black kid just
Starting point is 01:15:02 fucking catch it wowhington post is going to salivate over this salivate dude Washington Post in New York times like got him again yeah yeah yeah um dude jerry kill you talked about him being like a father figure to you what about jay Jerry Kill was like it helps you guys connect so much. And do you have like a Jerry Kill story that you're like, this dude's the fucking man? Because Kay was telling me, he offered me? He was in Nevada when I was in high school? No, no, that was Coach Kay.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. This guy's a nut job. Like, he's just one of us. Just the older version. You know what I mean? He don't care what anyone thinks about him. He don't care about anything. I would say New Mexico State when he was the head coach, like he had all the power in the world.
Starting point is 01:15:47 like I remember this is this story exactly um we were in like a like a team meeting and after that it was like the first day of fall camp getting done team meeting we go out there and you know we get done practicing this kid has a full body cramp and he's like where's the fucking trainer at and the trainer didn't have IVs they couldn't give IVs for some reason in Mexico state he fired the trainer the equipment staff and uh like one of the board of directors at new mexico state that day and then like he was like having to do he hired basically the coaches to like serve out equipment hired uh people just to like give out water and stuff so he fired someone like on the spot that day first day because the guy was catching a full body cram and there was nowhere to save him and
Starting point is 01:16:37 there was no no one to give him an IV man at least have some pickle juice on you or something you know but he just anytime i hear body cramp i just think of the story of uh there's a guy in the locker who just as a joke kept a box of condoms in the locker and somebody was like hey uh why do you keep a box of condoms in the locker and he just looked over and he goes you never know when somebody's going to catch a full body cramp and be spas on the locker room floor i'm like what the fuck just another glimpse inside of the locker room folks that is a wild story wild the full body cramps there are just awful when you reflect on just your entire journey like again underdog story juco route no offers small schools go to vanderbill all of this stuff you were talking
Starting point is 01:17:28 about wrestling earlier but overall like a general like a general thought when you pull yourself out what do you feel like separates you mentally in the details when you look back whether it's playing through injuries or examples you see from other guys like what things you feel like have separated you mentally to get in the spot that you're in now? When I turn on the tape and I want people to know that I'm the best person ever touched like the blade of grass. Like I'm going to be the best no matter what. When you turn on the tape, it's like, okay, this kid right here is the best player on
Starting point is 01:18:01 the football team right here, both sides of the ball. And so that's what I want is just not even be like compared. I want to be good on it as like one of the greats. Like I feel like I have that mama mentality. of three workouts a day or else you like cheated yourself. When you look back and think of times where it was extremely hard and you possibly thought up, never quitting, but where you doubted yourself and everything else?
Starting point is 01:18:25 Like, is there a moment or a phase of life that kind of stands out that you fought through that you look back on? You're like, I'm fucking happy. I pushed through that moment. Yeah, Jucco was hard for sure. Jucco COVID. You know, there's only two people out in a dorm probably this big. maybe even smaller if you cut this down and you know it's you and your guy and it's just the struggle
Starting point is 01:18:49 like you weren't able to leave no one could see you um and those those times were tough you're waiting out 5 a.m but then like you think about it like you're you're with your brothers through the grind so it's like cool who are you leaning on in like those times like are you somebody who like you know you're scrolling and consuming videos or you're reading something is it your mom is it your staff when you're kind of having those moments of, hey, I need to feel like I needed some inspiration or motivation. Honest truth, uh,
Starting point is 01:19:20 my ex-girlfriend was like, shit, she don't want me, bet I'm gonna go harder. And it was just like, I'm super serious, like in Jukho and still like to this day, like my boy,
Starting point is 01:19:34 uh, my boys would tell you, like it was like, once I got under that bar, it was, like it was beef, you know? Obviously, not with my girlfriend, but like, it was like, fuck, like, shit, she didn't want you.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Like, take that shit personal. But that's one of the reasons why I go so hard, too. I feel like a mentality of the athlete is taking whatever happens in your life that didn't necessarily go your way. Big ways or little ways, but it's like, all right, add that to the tank. That's true. That's how I look at it too. I feel like he's got the most wrestling brain I've ever seen. As a football player?
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah, a football player. If you don't want me, put a 45 on. She said, what? We were laughing about, you know, how those, like, you know, how wrestlers just get down and just go hard. They got their house parties where they're in their shirts off. They got the bandanas on. They might, you know, there's a few guys got their girlfriends in there and they're just, you know, make a beer pong shot. They just fucking got.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Yeah. Just overly aggressive for no reason. She's got her neck all fucked up after. Everything they do, they go hard. Yeah. That's true. Daffing up your boys and you start getting in an over under. all of a sudden your hips are back is oh good to see you man
Starting point is 01:20:42 just before they take that takes place yeah still got it I see how do you think you'd fair in wrestling right now the way am at probably not but I would like go down like 174s I didn't do pretty good yeah yeah you think you'd have been a good wrestler in college yeah but I didn't
Starting point is 01:21:00 because you were you were a state champ right yeah I was state champ my senior year okay yeah but I mean I didn't love it yeah he knows New Mexico What's up with these shots? I like you. Arizona? Arizona's like right next to New Mexico.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah, but it's, I mean, we can, the population is like more than double. And we also have like a better sports state. Baseball, football. That's just fact. I mean, New Mexico, I think. Hey, hey, we might be better at baseball. I don't know, bro. Like Arizona cats play ball out there.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I'd say the year round, I mean, just like New Mexico, but like cats come out of there. We've even hockey now. We got hockey players. What about wrestling? I think we might be better at wrestling. I think you might have wrestling. Wrestling, baseball, soccer. I'm not very, I can see soccer.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm not up to date on like wrestling. My wrestling education comes through Will Compton. Like I see that. He talks about Cody. I just, I've wrestled both three times. I've lost every time. We'll be in there watching March Madness. And I'll have the, of the wrestling conference champion.
Starting point is 01:22:07 being there like this has been for a year. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So who's your favorite wrestling right now? Let me go pee real quick. Oh, man. I mean, honestly, I just root for the boys from Nebraska. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Like, I knew a lot more about it when my brother was doing it. Like, when we were in college together, like, Jordan Burroughs was from Nebraska. And he was like, when Cody came in as a freshman, they were the same weight. So they were both wrestling partners and everything else. Like James Green came a little bit after Cody. So that generation of wrestling is when I knew it the most. I don't know it as well anymore. I just enjoy every year when the conference championships come on,
Starting point is 01:22:42 you know, when the national championships are going on, the NCAAs. My dad took me to one, me and my brother to won back when we were young when it was in St. Louis, and we got to see Brock Lesnar's senior year. And you're seeing him do his little jump, his jumps back and forth before he goes out and beats the boy from, he was at Minnesota, the dude from Iowa. He beats him four or two in the finals and the place just erupts. Did you see Gable Stevenson loss this year? Yes, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Oh, insane. That's sick. Insane. But, like, you know, and it's like the head coaches of these teams now. You got like K.L. Sanderson, of course. Mark Manning, I've always been a massive fan of. I'm tied in with him.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And you see, like, David Taylor getting in the circuit. And just seeing guys from, again, like that generation kind of, whether they're on the staff now. But as far as individuals, I don't know as much about them anymore. Right. I'm more just support, like, I support the university. Like Nebraska had a hell of a year this year, even though who is at Penn States, like miles ahead of everybody. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:42 So everybody always kind of competes for that second spot, whether it's Iowa, Oklahoma State. So I just kind of enjoy, I just enjoy watching wrestling. No, that's super dope. Yeah. Because you got a couple, you were just talking about one of your boys that's. Yeah, Real Woods. He's about to go to the final X. He wins this tournament.
Starting point is 01:23:59 And that's this weekend. If everybody listening, we're recording on Thursday the 12th. So when this comes out, it'll be on Tuesday. So the match will have already happened. But your boys, he's going to compete this weekend. Real Woods. Yeah, at Final X. In New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:24:14 And if he wins, he's going to be on the Olympic team. He's an Olympic team, yeah. That's sick, man. So rooting for him. I hope he wins. He's going to win. He's going to win. Who's your favorite wrestler?
Starting point is 01:24:26 I was telling him how I don't really. As far as, like, individuals now, I'm not as privy to everybody who wrestles now. I'm more just, like, follow a lot of guys back from the generation that I was kind of just around how their coaches now. And I'm more so just support the Huskers and you're always knowing about Penn State and who the good teams are. What about UFC?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Favorite UFC fighter? I mean, our boy, we're biased with our boy, Mike Chandler. Missed the O'Connor McGregor. We just watched Sean O'Malley and Marab over the weekend. And Marab is a psychopath. Yeah, he's gonna be a cat that's a champion for a long, long time. Man, who else do you have?
Starting point is 01:25:04 Who is the cat that fought? You got the ghost? This weekend. I know, but John Jones is so up in the air. Why? Is he going to come back and fight? He takes like two, three years off every time he fights. Isn't that crazy, though?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Like, bro, he is, I mean, it's been said by Dan. It's been said by everyone. He's the goat. He's the goat of UFC. I'm sick that D.C., Daniel Cormier, never got his, like, a legit rematch shot against him. Yeah. Daniel Cormier was going to beat John. Maybe not.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Maybe not, but you would like to see, like, a little bow tie put on that. Have it all be done. But who is, um, Who is? The PED thing came out when they were about to go. John would strangle him. Come on, man. Don't disrespect D.C. John is good, but John is.
Starting point is 01:25:44 John is good, but John is. Yeah, John Jones is awesome, but you just never know when he's going to get in the Octagon again. I remember when COVID was happening in New Mexico and went back to Albuquerque and there was like riots going downtown. People breaking glass doors, getting into jewelry stores. John Jones went downtown, whooped a few fuckers ass and put it into all that shit. She was crazy I mean that's insane It was crazy
Starting point is 01:26:09 Who's your outside of John Jones Who's your favorite fighter? Oh I like Amanda Nunez I know she's coming back Yeah yeah She's finding that girl that's He's fucking dominant
Starting point is 01:26:22 Is it Kayla Harrison? I think so That sounds about right But she put on a performance This past weekend Like she was very impressive It'll be interesting
Starting point is 01:26:31 To see Amanda Nunez Taking that much time off Essentially gets inducted The Hall Fame last International Fight Week And then says Oh I'm gonna come back for one more.
Starting point is 01:26:38 But that, Caleb, that is her name. I don't want to fuck it up. Her quote of being like, I got the bell, you got the legacy that's put it all on the table.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah. Damn. That's a bar. Yeah. That's a bar where you're like, I mean, you've been new UFC. I saw you at Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah. Like, it's electric, dude. It's just being a part of it, being around it is awesome. Well, how does it feel for you guys? You guys are like with like Trump and stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Like they set us to the like, where all the fighters were. You guys were like Trump and all those guys. It feels insane. Like, Taylor and I'll be sitting there and we just look over like what the fuck is going on. There's definitely a level of imposter syndrome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Like we shouldn't be sitting with these cats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They really just goes down to like the relationship with Dana and get around these people. You don't act like an asshole. Like you just try to be as respectful as possible. But like the people you get to sit next to in these fights and essentially network and talk to and be around like it's, you're seeing extremely powerful people come under one roof. Yeah. And you're just like enjoying the moment of being that close to the fucking, the fucking
Starting point is 01:27:37 octagon. Yeah. Yeah. Like the, the, you know, you hear the punches, you feel the punches, you just feel the entire environment when the lights go off and it's just a spotlight on the octagon. You hear the walking, you feel them walking around the cage. It's like you feel the breathing, you see the corners going on when they get with their corner men. It's, uh, it's sick, man. Fuck, that's intense. I'll tell you what a really cool
Starting point is 01:28:00 situation to be in is the fights at the apex. Because the apex are these up-and-coming fighters that are right next to the UFC facility but it's like quiet you can hear the punches landing you can actually hear people talking when you when the fights are between rounds you can put a headset on and listen to what the coaches are saying to the fighter yeah what the corners are talking about like it's a very cool intimate setting it's awesome yeah yeah and it's like we're all fans of joe rogan the podcast but joe rogan the ufc commentator going out there to interview people you've seen the referees that you recognize because they're at every fight bruce buffer yeah doing his um
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Starting point is 01:31:29 And the more you're around it too, the more like people are recognizing you. Like the Bruce Buffers, the Rogans and the types of things. It's like, yeah, we're all kind of like, yeah, we're all kind of like, in one way or another part of this little community now and it's just awesome yeah and you'll you like watch bruce buffer i'll be watching before fights and it's kind of just like looking over and seeing like what he does and you just see how he's getting like hyped up and in his element himself has got got like his little note cards that just see him like refer to and look at but you just see him locking in like he's about to actually fight yeah no that's uh it's uh it's cool man it is awesome
Starting point is 01:32:00 dude just to be a part of all that i mean this last fight we were in st louis at uh doing an azra bush form energy yeah carnal game yeah the cardinal game and then we get on a plane yeah we can talk about that in a second we get uh on dana's plane with him and fly to new work and it's just like you're sitting on this plane with his group of a group of people our group of people and it's just like this is this is fucking awesome is that the life it's this it's the dream there's yeah one of those cats too or I mean he's not a bad thing you can say about him. If you actually know Dana personally, you would never
Starting point is 01:32:36 say one bad thing about him. How giving he is like he'll walk into a room. I say this all the time but if whoever he knows the most he'll talk to the last. Like he walked in this room right now. He'd go up to everybody first before sitting down talking to me will and even Jack. Like Jack's been around him over a dozen times now.
Starting point is 01:32:51 And it's like he makes you feel like you are all great friends. And you're like you'll have these moments will be going on and say like you're on the plane or whatever it is. or in any of these rooms and you just might look over and you make out contact with Jack or something and you're just like,
Starting point is 01:33:04 what the fuck is going on? All because we decided to start a podcast. Yeah, yeah. Like in the back of some bullshit. Yeah. It's just, it's crazy. It always gives you a reason to have gratitude and just reflect at how awesome this shit is.
Starting point is 01:33:17 It's awesome, man. It is cool. Throughout the, throughout the Convo Boys, anything pop up that you want to go back to with Diego? One thing I wanted to ask is y'all have some new tools, some new weapons this shit.
Starting point is 01:33:31 who's somebody that's unknown right now that you think's going to make a big name for themselves? Good question, sure. We got this new running back from New Mexico State, M.K., where's number 22, he's like that. You guys will see it Saturday. So MK, you played with that in New Mexico State. I played with him when he was a freshman.
Starting point is 01:33:54 He was a freshman. And then his real names of Colin Young, but he's a freshman at New Mexico State. and everyone knew like that kid is he's different yeah and then he got his chance he had he had his kid and then so he took a year off last year and then he came this year and he took a year off and didn't play last year yeah yeah he didn't play last year oh no shit yeah to have a kid jack i see you i got a mike i'm not i'm a tennessee fan we're not i'm not gonna take it there you seem like a good dude i actually gonna give you something i have something in my car so i'm
Starting point is 01:34:26 gonna hop on the bus and grab it and it literally you might be like what the fuck is this and it's not like a gag gift. I'm going to go grab it, so pause, but it's actually, I think it's kind of cool. Like, it's actually, so just getting a sudden. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I'm Jack, by the way. I'm not Jack's over. While Jack's grabbing his non-gag gift that everyone thinks is going to, everyone is going to think it's kind of cool. You got one? I kind of want to ask since Jack's off the bus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:49 You guys feel like we want Vandy to be the States, the state squad. Yeah, but you're an intern. You can't, you know. Don't speak unless spoken to go about. You want Vanne about to run Tennessee. Vanderbilt's going to run Tennessee after this year. Like this is going to be the new staple of like college football is going to happen here at Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Do any of you and the boys ever like talk about that? Like we got to be the fucking state school. Well, we're in Nashville, Tennessee. Like we're in the music city. Like we need to be the brand of Tennessee. Everyone wants to come to Tennessee because of Nashville. So they want to come to Nashville. So Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 01:35:24 And then when we have like the most money in NIL, like, why not come here? So like we literally just have to win this year and end throughout the rest of the year It'll take care of itself You think Vandy will have the most money in the game or? I think we'll be up there. Yeah But like it's Nashville. Yeah, there's a lot of big hitters around here.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah. They just need a team to believe in. Yeah, that's all they need. They need Diego Pavia. Yeah, yeah. What's up Jack? Hey, what was up with your pitch? Yeah, how about that, huh?
Starting point is 01:35:59 Was that even a pitch? No, I mean, that was, Counts 1-0, right? Counts 1-0. I think you might have... I've been out every single day. After this podcast, you're not going to go toss the ball around a little bit. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:13 I might get, like, concussed or something. What you mean? Flying all over. Flying all over, but you got a glove, and you're an athlete. I know. You want to talk about New Mexico and baseball. If it hits, like, the roof and then falls down, hits him on the head, concussed. If it hits you on the head and you get concussed after that, then you're not who you thought you were.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Okay, that's fair to say. But I'll tell you, hey, get some legal advice because you can probably, well, don't do that because then it's on bus. Yeah, no, no, I'm not doing that. All right. So, I was at a camp out and we were using newspaper to start fires. And all of a sudden, I see this, this paper. I wish it had been a Tennessee player because I think this would be something that's super cool to get framed. I was going to give it to my friend's dad, who's a Vanney fan.
Starting point is 01:36:52 But since you are the person in this, I think it's cool. You literally can throw it away, but I thought it was kind of dope where it's like, probably your powers through all and like just burned up. That is fucking hard. So if you keep that, that is sick. So, look, just remember Tennessee fans aren't. I think it's better coming from a Tennessee fan. Yeah, man. So look, this is, we're still going to have the rivalry, but I hope the best for you and hope you have a successful career.
Starting point is 01:37:14 So I appreciate that. Now, thank you, my brother. 100. That's big. That's big of you. Right here. Which camera, Mitch? Diego, do you show this camera right here.
Starting point is 01:37:27 That is badass. Oh. Come on. It's bigger than the game. Bigger than the game. 100. Tennessee shirt. Thinker up.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Thinker up. Bud Light question? Yeah. Diego, as you know, Bud Light is absolutely incredible. And anyone would do anything for a Bud Light. But what's one thing? Diego Pavia would do anything for.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Can't say family. I'd bite an ear off to win the National Championship. Okay. Oh, yeah. You and Mike Tyson somebody. Does it matter the ear? No. Anybody's ear
Starting point is 01:38:05 You'd bite my ear off Yep Would you let somebody Bight your ear off for a national title? Would you let somebody cut your piece off for a national title?
Starting point is 01:38:13 Yes. Just a Ken doll Just There's surgery now that you can work with Yeah That Natty's gonna be mine though I mean
Starting point is 01:38:24 I love him Yeah He came into this He came into this question He understood 99% of this podcast He understood Yeah
Starting point is 01:38:31 He understood And we expect Josh Pate to be talking about this. Yeah. Yeah. Who's Josh Pate? Oh my God. What are you doing? Almost the brightest mind in college football.
Starting point is 01:38:44 Actually? Yeah. He's the future commissioner of college football. Oh, shit. He's got Josh Pate. He's got a show. Oh, I've seen this guy. I know his name was Josh Pate. Very put together. Ripped. Well spoken. Definitely wears true classic.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Bright mind. He loves you. He gave us the ranking on 247 at 13. That was a joke. I was just throwing that out there. He didn't actually write that one. I don't know where he has you. Is that some Wikipedia shit right there?
Starting point is 01:39:12 Well, 24-7 did write that article. He doesn't work for 24-7. Oh, okay. He's got his own lane. He's got his own thing going. Hey, my bad, Josh Pate. Let's give a round of applause for Diego Pavia. Hey, I have one more question.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Okay. Throughout this last year, the run that you did have, what was like, you know, being a fan of the sport growing up and everything else, what was like the coolest thing you got to do? But there was going somebody's show or something like, man, this is fucking, this is sick. The best thing is hanging out with Theo Vaughn. That guy's a fucking nut job. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Where'd you get to hang with him at? So after the Bama game. That night. No, no, not that night. But like a few, like a week after or something, we went and I took a few of the boys and we went and just got some ice cream. And that guy's, you got to see his fun. I don't know. I love ice cream.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Yeah. I love ice cream. Me too. You guys cream fans on the box. Yeah. Chalk the Fudge Brownie guy. But anyway, like I was like, bro, he was like the coolest person. Like, he had like he was my best friend for like 40 years.
Starting point is 01:40:18 You know what I mean? Yeah. But that's really cool that I get to hang out with that guy. Yeah, he's a monster, bro. Did you go to one of his shows or something? You just saw him out about. No, I haven't got the chance to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:30 But like I get to see his show every day. Like he's, every day I hang out with him, it's like fucking holy shit. this guy is naturally funny like he belongs to do comedy yeah dude he is a he's he's hilarious especially like in person and hanging around just the way his brain operates and thinks on his feet and everything else he just comes up with the craziest shit i think i think we're like i'm i was gonna say good together but like that sounds fucking gay but uh like hanging out hanging out because like he just says whatever's on his mind and then i say whatever's on my mind you know what i mean it just it's just like fucking nut jobs at it yeah yeah gives me a great couple
Starting point is 01:41:06 Taylor Right? Think about taxes, right? Think about taxes. Yeah, I could say that's a little money. George household income. What is wrong with you two?
Starting point is 01:41:19 What you guys got going on? As if you think about it, right? Yeah, I'm just trying to build on his story. It's a business decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. You got what you got to do? Have you hooked them up with the Pavia jersey yet?
Starting point is 01:41:32 I was actually, so what happened with the Pavia jerseys is, is like uh you sold them yeah they all sold and then like they stopped making them after the season so i can't even buy any right now you can't even get your own jersey i can't get my own jersey right now but we need one for the shop yeah so let's do this when you guys beat alabama again your words our words now our words you bring you put in the shop we'll frame it you got my word game more whoa yeah that's what we just said right whoa i mean you sound like you're okay we're just Whoever.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Whoa, did you not hear the price tag on that? We'll take that. Yeah. We'll take Cade's Game Ward jersey. But before it's all sudden done, I got to give a shout to my boy, Luke Pastine. A huge Vanderbilt fan. When you guys beat Alabama, they always take like a boys golf trip. And he got, he's not a big, like, part of your drinker.
Starting point is 01:42:24 He actually just had a kid three weeks ago. So shout out to Joey, his new daughter. But he made a drunken bet saying that if Bama loses, he would buy all of his boys, Diego Pavia jerseys. He gets blacked out, wakes up the next morning. and bam a loss. And so he had, and his buddies while he's passed out, literally tapped in.
Starting point is 01:42:43 He has credit card connected and bought $1,300 worth of jerseys. And they all sent them. And then three of the guys, though, are big dudes, and they only got X-L. So three of the dudes, they don't even fit the jerseys. So maybe I can sneak one of those jerseys for us. I'll tap in, but I had a good shout to my boy with it. I like that.
Starting point is 01:43:01 1,300. Yeah. Which is the first check Diego Pavi got in his NAL deal for New Mexico State. Full circle. $1,400, but yeah. Yeah, appreciate you. Hey, taxes are an MF or? Yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Appreciate you guys having me, though. Let's get rid of federal income tax, right? Quagraph it. Cool graphic. Cool graphic. Let's get rid of it. Yeah. Taylor won, doesn't want taxes.
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