Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Is Dana White The GOAT At Blackjack? + The Rise Of Power Slap

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

Recorded: November 20, 2023 | In this Best of the Bus episode, the boys sat down in Vegas with UFC President and longtime friend of the show, Dana White. Right out of the gate, Dana made his case as possibly the greatest Blackjack player of all time.  They went on to talk about the early days of Power Slap, which was just launching at the time, and how Dana turned it into a global viral success. He also got real about his personal health journey with Gary Brecka, sharing how it completely transformed his life and outlook. The conversation touched on business, leadership, and loyalty, with Dana opening up about how he runs the UFC, why he always puts people over money, and how he handles criticism from the media. The boys wrapped things up by talking about the highly anticipated McGregor vs. Chandler fight and what Dana had to say about it at the time.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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where we throw it back to some of our favorite episodes. And as you guys have seen, if you follow us and you're subscribed to us on YouTube, there's a lot of vlogs that we do where Taylor goes out to the UFC. He gambles with Dana White. We've been out to several UFC events, and we are massive fans of what goes on out there. And this is throwing it back to the first time that Dana White, the UFC president and friend of the show, came on the bus while the boys were in Vegas back in 2023. We talked Dana's Blackjack Skills, the rise of power.

Slap. Power Slap was just about to start. We were at the first one with him. He also talks about his health journey with Gary Brecker and his thoughts on building the UFC into what it is today. And of course, we wrap it up talking McGregor versus Chandler, which we are hopeful, hopeful that it happens next 4th of July celebrating 250 years of independence. This one's awesome. Tap in.

Love you. Big hugs, tiny kisses. I got to be in a meeting at fucking Red Rock. And yeah, speaking of, you guys have been on a terror with the gambling. He's on a fucking tear. Yeah, we're going to roll. We're going to go. Yeah.

He's on a terror. I don't know, man. After last night, that was the biggest comeback I've seen in gambling history. That was unbelievable. You're the sensei of blackjack. You're the sensei. I've been doing it for a long time, and I've had many nights like last night. And even deeper, I've had some fucking wars, man.

And, yeah, last night was fun. And thanks for riding it out with me. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I knew essentially you're like, you're coming just to gamble with me. And then like eight o'clock hits and you call me, hey, my tooth is broken. I'm thinking, hey, you don't have to come.

It's all good. I'm doing fucking Friday yesterday. And I fucking break my tooth in the back. And I got this great dentist in town here. Steve Wilson, if you ever need a dentist, say here in town. So I fly to his place. He fucking opens his place for me.

He gets in there and, whips my tooth back together and then I'll come and meet you and you start going at it. That was wild. Do you want to talk about numbers and what your situation was? You tell me whatever you want to. So this is what I saw and I know we talked about it a little bit, but Dana's rule, and you can correct me at any point is you play, you max out the hands, you win two hands and you get the fuck out of there. Yep. No if hands are butts about it. That is the rule. That's what you do. 100%.

So we come in. Knowing your number. No in your number. No in your number. No in your number. No your number. No your number. You're fighting until you get to that number and then leaving. we get my number you go quickly you get your number and then we're sitting there kind of just chat and hanging out I didn't really have a number last night

so I've been gone I went out of town for a little while and I haven't played in a minute so I was excited to get together with him and play we're fucking around we get into a battle with his he didn't know that I was playing for him when I was playing so I'm in this big battle

280 down 280 come all the way back and I win his 30 and I hand it to him he's like What? No, I said, no, I was playing for you. That's you, buddy. You got it. So, pumped. So I had, I started goof around a little bit. I win.

I'm up like 80, 90, 100 in that ballpark. And I said, I'm going in again. He's like, he looks at me, he goes, you're breaking your rule. I go, I'm breaking all the rules tonight. Yeah. Did it happen fast? Did it happen like fast? And you're just kind of like, all right, I need a little bit more action.

Nothing was really fast. Last night was kind of, it was, it was battle-ish. I should have read all the fucking signs and said, The gambling gods are telling you to get the fuck out of here right now. I didn't listen. I had my conscience over here on my left side saying, hey, you're breaking the rules. Go in and it's just fucking, you know, we would go, we'd get a little deep, and I'd get right there and almost be out. I mean, at one point, we were like one hand away and we were out.

And it was like, I couldn't want to double down last night to save my fucking life. And if I got a 20, it meant I was going to lose. I lost every fucking 20 I got last night. Think about that losing 20. When you get a 20, you're supposed to be excited. When I got 20, you got the point out where I said, I'm going to lose his hand. Right. And then they'd be showing like a four.

And then like six cards later, 21. The first time doing it around Dana too, like watching it happen. That was kind of the theme of the night as well. He'd be, oh, you're going to fucking beat me anyway, even though I got 19 or 20. That's just how it works, watch, boys. And then he ends up losing. He gets all pissed off. He's like, let's go.

Because the funny thing is, too, is Mr. Positive when he walks in. Keep the high energy, keep good. And then get that a couple hundred thousand out of this motherfucker. right here. Go ahead, flip it over. Yeah, yeah. There was one guy. The deal last night, Todd. You can, you can literally

say exactly what they're going to do. When the cards turn this way, you know what's going to happen. Literally everything that I would say would happen. If I had a 14, I'd get the 10. If I had an 11, I'd get the 4 for a double down. You know what to me? It's just

clockwork. It was a wild deal. To the point, two, we're pushing seven figures at one point and down. Down. Yeah, down. and a buffet comes in. Like they literally like rolled in. All the little butlers roll in with all the food.

And he takes a nice little, he takes a break, eats his food. He's like, I got to get out of here pretty soon. I can't do the late night because I think one reason. You know what I mean? Just a refuel. A refuel day because when I was back here in August for Power Slap, I was on, I mean, I think I won seven, eight times in a row.

And to the point where it's getting numb that I was like, I don't think if you're with me, I don't think I can lose. And then there's guys there that night. different circumstances and I end up losing a whole bunch of money. And the fact that you've taken it personal where you're like, we're sitting there, he's down, you know, we'll say 500. I have no idea what the number is. And he looks at me, goes, how much are you down?

We kind of talk about it a little bit. And he goes, we're going to make back all that money. No problem. Don't you worry. You're in the middle of a war right now. You're talking about the next war that we got to go through. It's wild. But the way this all started was us meeting at the Super Bowl.

And then you're like, hey, you guys should come out to Power Slap and the explosion that has happened with Power Slap. Like how does, did you expect that to go the way it has? You knew it was obviously going to be successful, but it's gone to a crazy degree at this point. When I looked at it, you know, and I was like, holy fuck, this whole thing doesn't make sense. How is this pulling these kind of numbers? And then you start to think, well, what if I did it? Because I know I'm going to do it better than anybody else can do it.

What would that mean? And then here we are 10 months later. And this thing is a fucking monster, man. It's just an absolute monster. And we sit here every day and we look at the numbers. When we do an event, whether it was one, two, three, four, or five, and the stuff that gets posted socially, it's just we watch it every day. So it was two days ago, AJ, you know, our little social media queen that runs all the social media for us,

she's hitting me up and she says, yeah, the Sheena posts is at $105 million right now. This was how many weeks ago? Huh? Three weeks ago? It's at 105 million in three weeks, the Sheena slap, right? And we're talking. She goes, it just went to 106 while we're on the phone. So then that night we had a Power Slap meeting.

It was at 110 when we had the meeting that night about Power Slap. So every fucking day, the thing goes up millions, millions of views. Is that where a lot of the money and stuff is made is through more social? So what happened? Then the viewing live on Rumble and stuff like that. Because I think a lot of people have like a idea that it's like, oh, how can it be successful? It's like this isn't that great of this and that. But obviously through social media.

Because you have no idea what you're doing and you have no idea what you're fucking talking about. All these fucking, all you people that are fucking talking shit, and especially the media. I love the media. If the media tells you you've got something that's going to fail, it's definitely going to fucking win. The media are the dumbest. No nothing. do nothing, never fucking built nothing, motherfuckers on planet Earth. So when they say it isn't going to work, you got a fucking home run, man.

You know what I mean? Jump in and grind. The media, these guys think about who these people are. When you really think about the media, who are they? Where did they come from? Why does their opinion matter? What have they ever done? What have they ever created?

What have they ever built? Who's ever depended on a paycheck from the media? Nobody. They are a bunch of fucking zeros that sit around and write stories about people who are actually doing shit. It's fucking fascinating. When you really think about it. I know, right. Jeusing me up right now.

Tell me that's not a fascinating concept. People who have never done a fucking thing in their life ever. Sit around and write about people who are. What got you to that conclusion? Think about that. Who gives a flying fuck what any of those zeros have? to say about anything. Yeah.

Right? It's fascinating. So anyway. So, no, we make money off just like any other sports property. We make money off our television rights. We make money off sponsorship. We make money off video games, licensing, all that stuff. I am leaving here when we're done and I'm striving straight for Tita Enterprises.

And we're doing a huge fucking story about PowerSlapp with SBJ. It is the biggest, baddest sports fucking story of the year. That nobody fucking knows. I know. That'll be awesome to read about, too. It's like, from the business standpoint, what's been like, I guess the most exciting thing on making that business work with PowerSlaab? Because UFC and all these other entertainment businesses, you can kind of just see the success based on what the public opinion is on it, right? Like you've got great pay-per-view fights and everything else.

Like what's been challenging or what's been fun about building the business of PowerSlaf? you've acquired it. All the things that I love, the negativity. Yeah. You know, when people come out and say, this thing sucks, this can't be done, you can't do it, that is the shit that gets me out of bed every day. And I love every fucking minute of it. And then the end result in shoving it right up everybody's ass.

I fucking love every minute of it, man. It's the fucking best. And the only people I'm really talking to about this thing, there's some guys out there that we consider friendlies and we do whatever, but the sports business journal. It's like in the sports world, they are the, you know, it's what everybody in the industry reads. It's what all the sponsors read and everybody else.

Monster, the other thing that's incredible about this product is when we, like even the ads, you know, our sponsors, when we post something that's sponsor-driven, something, you know, UFC stuff does like 1.7 million views, PowerSlapp does 15 or 16 million views. It's like there's, so right now this year, year to date on TikTok, we're number one through seven. Yeah.

One through seven of PowerSlapp. On Instagram, we're number one. NBA is two and three. Power Slap is number four, five, and six. NBA is like seven and eight. And to put it into perspective, the NBA is 80 million followers. NFL is 30 million followers. We just hit two million.

We just hit two million followers. So we've done all this under 2 million followers. And yeah, I don't think people understand like how big of a player just the social media platforms are, right? Because you're talking about all the views and everything else. And you get, you know, the money that's being paid and the platform that you're given on like TikTok and everything else. It's like that is where money is is where everybody's attention is. And that's where you've done a great job like capitalizing with the business. That's not even getting into the fact that we're doing 450 million views in India, 90 million in Russia.

And the list just goes on and on as I break it into all the different countries. So it's like when you talk about, you know, people like, well, how do you monetize? How do that's what we do. That's what we do. That's, that's my specialty. You should take these, you know how many times I've been offered? People will call me up and say, hey, would you like to invest in this baseball team? Hey, would you like to invest in, you know, this, we were kicked.

We were looking at an NBA team one time, me and the Fortita brothers. And the answer is no. I don't want anything to do with that shit. You know what I like? I like taking fringe sports that people think can't be built and think can't be and monetizing those and building them up into, you know, the UFC. It's easy for everybody to look back now and go, oh, the UFC, yeah, fucking, yeah. If you got into the UFC, when we got into the UFC, it was power slap.

It was looked at like fucking power slap. It was actually worse because it was actually illegal in some fucking states. Right. It was actually illegal to do. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?

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to buy it on pay-per-view. Porn was on pay-per-view. The UFC was not allowed on pay-per-view. That's how fucking bad it was. So to look at the UFC now and go, oh, you have, of course, $2 million for the UFC. Shut the fuck up. You guys have no idea what you're talking about.

People just hoping, you know, at some point you fail, and then when they got a little moment to try and grab it and capitalize on it, right about it and everything else, it's like, that's the shot everybody tries to take. Well, it gets to a point with me where it's just like, how many more fucking times are you going to doubt me in what, what I'm capable of doing, you know.

We're doing the same thing right now with throw one. We own throw one, which I told you guys a million times. You heard it is. We own ridiculousness, nitro circus, SLS Skate League, Travis Pistrano's Nitro Cross. And we bought that company like a little over a year ago. And they're based in California. I'm building offices over here right now.

We're building them out. These guys will be here in the next couple of months. And I'll be involved in that. I'm already involved in the daily, but I'll be really involved in that in the daily when we get it over here. here get it out of California, get it here in Vegas and our, literally my office connects to their offices. So we're going to, that's going to be a really fun project over the next couple of years.

That's like, that's like up your alley. Yeah, I mean, I've shown a bunch of interest. I grew up on Nitro Circus, Supercross, all that stuff. That was like the first love of mine before I got into organized sports and all that. But you talk about the mindset and how your essential hate for mainstream media. When did you learn about the. ends and outs because obviously like this has been you've been in the business forever of these these fringe sports and making them what they are today how did you kind of adapt to the world with internet and all that like how did how did your mindset change as you as you kept going well i love the internet i'm all about i love that we can talk directly to our fans with no middlemen nothing worse than than

trying to you know do what you do and going through a middleman and uh you know everything that i really do right now is direct to consumer i go directly to our consumers and talk to the people that want to listen. And realistically, when you look at it right now, the two most hated people on the planet right now are the media and politicians, right? Yeah. Nobody trusts them.

Nobody likes them. They know that most of them are lying. And there's never been a better time for social media than now. And like I said, in every way, shape, and form in every business that we own, I talk directly to our consumers. That's it. When you brought up politicians,

and you're on this past weekend recently with Theo Vaughn, and he brought up an RFK interview, I believe it was, and then Peloton reached out and said, hey, you can't have him on there. And you essentially went on a rant like you did with us about hitting the mainstream media, how you can't tell people what to do. You were telling me about that process last night

with the Pelotons and all these other bike companies, like, when did you learn that you had the power to essentially take away from people saying what you can and can't do in your business. COVID. Yeah. I mean, I knew it before then, but we're really, you know, never...

Well, you know, we went through the whole UFC thing first. Yeah. I mean, people, you know, the mainstream media shitting all over the UFC and how it should be banned and this shouldn't exist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then here comes COVID. You got the, you know, fucking goofy New York Times

and all these other fucking clowns, you know, coming out talking shit. blast of me every day, they don't matter. They don't matter, and they don't have the influence or the power that they think they do,

you know? And you can come out and say whatever you want about me, and go do whatever you want about me. You, you determine your future. Not people like this. It's like that whole fucking

cancel culture bullshit and all this stuff that goes on. You just got to say, fuck you. You know what I mean? It seems like you get a thrill out of it, honestly. like people trying to come at you is your field.

I don't know if I get a thrill out of it, but if you want to pick a fight with me, let's fucking go. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah, taking everything head on seems like your way about doing everything. That does seem like...

And these guys that come out and do these things that do these stories on you, right? Who are you? What have you done? And are you perfect? You never fucked up? Never made any mistakes? Got any skeletons in your closet?

of course they do you know of course they do every we're all fucking human we've all done my new year's eve incident fucking did it happen no excuses no fucking you know i i could have tried to make up 10 there's no fucking excuse i did it i i admit it i accept it now what i got to do is i got to get up every day and i got to at the end of the day you have to live with you fuck everybody else and what their opinion is of you. You have to know who you are and you have to be able to live with yourself. I got three fucking kids that I love more than anything.

You know what I mean? And I embarrassed them last New Year's Eve. I embarrassed myself. I embarrassed my kids. You know what I mean? So you got to get up and you got to look in the fucking mirror, say, I fucked up. And how do I make sure this never happens again?

Ever. And that's it. I mean, you're only, You're only fucking, you know, the only one that you have to answer to is yourself and the people that care about you and love you and your, you know, family. Fuck everybody else. No. And I think it's cool that you're talking about it because my question is when you are going through that, like, how difficult was that moment? Because you're somebody, you'll stand up, you'll stand in the batters box, you'll swing with the best of them.

You kind of seem like you can't chip the armor. but when you have these philosophies you go by because everybody's human, like you said, like talk about those times where it is, like it is super difficult. Things that you lean on, maybe it's people, maybe it's a you have a mentor, maybe it's a circle, maybe it's just your family. Like talk about the low part of that.

There's nobody but you. You find out who's who and what's what when shit hits the fan. I say it all the time. You know, you'll see the people that will reach out to you, see if you're good and the people who won't. It's all good. I'm whatever. But the only one that you have to fucking worry about is you.

You yourself, because it's about you. You fucked up. Are you willing to fucking accept the fact that you messed up and you have to fix this? You are the one that has to get up every day and look in a mirror and say, that I do right, that I do wrong, how do I make myself? Every day, I have this Bruce Lee quote everywhere in my house, in the gym in here, and everything about how man, every day when you get out, basically what this quote says is every day when you get out of bed, your stride and you're, your stride and you're, you're,

your game plan should be to be better than you were yesterday, right? And you will hit plateaus, but you must break through them and you must exceed to the next level. And I fucking love that shit. That is exactly how I live every day of my life, whether it's my workout, now my health, my business, my relationships, my family. How do you make sure that you're better than you were yesterday? And when you get into these situations like I was in on New Year's Eve, it's like, So you can do two things.

You can run and fucking hide, curl up in a ball, and let the world just fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig your fucking heels in. You figure out how to, you know, you have to figure out yourself. And then you fucking dig in and you fight. I literally, the day we got back from Mexico, I had a quote installed on my wall. It says, may God have mercy upon my enemies because I won't.

So let's fucking go. Hey, Jesus is you up. It's a gambling creed, too, for bet the bus. The gambling creed? Yeah, may God have mercy on the sportsbook, because I won't. But you've seen these guys, you know, who make mistakes and fuck up and do whatever, and the world comes after them, and they just disappear. And they roll over and they bow down to whatever the fucking, the crowd mentality wants from you.

You know what I mean? Where at the end of the day, we all make mistakes. And we're all human. But if you know who you really fucking are and you, you know, you don't have to, explain yourself to the rest of the world. You have to explain yourself and make things right with the people that are in your inner circle and that are your family. But at the end of the day, do you have to fucking stick up for yourself if you believe in, you know what I mean? I see guys that take just a little bit of heat and the fucking wheels come off the bus and they,

you know, they run and hide. It's building the UFC, going through COVID, building slap. I'm not the run and hide fucking guy. Yeah. That's just. not who I am and I will never be. Moving forward, like, it seems like that's all you're focused on is all that. And you've really taken your health to, like, the next level and you've seen it. Like, when we first met you at the Super Bowl this past year, you were showing us photos of you and sloppy guy. Just kind of seem like you're eating whatever, doing whatever.

And you've been singing, I mean, right? Those photos? I mean, he always kind of a built cap, but you, you know, there was some movement. Just call me sloppy. Come on. Yeah, there was some sloppiness going on in those photos. But you talk about Gary Breco. I'm never doing this podcast.

You talk about Gary Breckham and how he's essentially changed your life. How did you get on board with a guy like that? How did that whole process happen for you? There's a girl named Carrie Kasem. I don't know if you guys are probably too young, but Casey Kasem used to have a radio show called Casey Kasem's Top 40. Every week he broke down the top 40 songs in the country. He was also the voice for Scooby-Doo. No, Shaggy, Shaggy on Scooby-Doo.

and, you know, his daughter and I have been friends for many years. And she's, she's hardcore, but she's kind of a hippie, you know what I mean? She's into all the holistic shit. I didn't believe in that stuff two years ago. I thought it was all a crock of shit. Now it's all I believe in. I'm one of these guys. Show me.

Prove it to me. You're telling me that it's this way, but you have to prove it to me. So I finally decide to hook up with this guy because he was doing IVs. My son, we went down to Miami for his 21st birthday, so we needed Ivy people because we're down there doing whatever. And he comes in with his team and he does my blood work. When he walked me through my blood work, the guy had no medical history on me or my family or anything. He told me everything that was wrong with me. And he told me what was wrong with my parents.

And he was dead on right. And it was a really trippy experience. And he basically said, if you listen to me for the next 12 weeks, I'll change your whole life. And I was like, I can do anything for 12 weeks. So I went in, it didn't even take 12 weeks. And four weeks, I started to feel different and started to feel better. And some of the things that were wrong when he started to go away and all this other shit. And then I'm so in on this right now.

This guy called me right now said fucking squirt hot sauce in your eyes and, you know, I would fucking do it. Right. Yeah, this guy is a genius. And I've seen him help not just me, but so many other people, including people that are close to me. So he is the real fucking deal. And again, you go out on the internet and you hear other people, you know, whatever, talking about this guy's a scam artist or see the scammer. Okay.

Then don't do it. Right. Nobody's fucking telling you to fucking do this. Go see your doctor. See, that fucking works out for you. Good luck to you. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide.

range of podcasts around there. But this one's extra special. So how did we how do we actually come up with a name hey Jonas guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and well we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say hey Jonas and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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I'm not telling you guys, do this, do that, whatever. But you did this water fast, and now I'm fascinated from this water fast. What was it, 86? 86 hours? I did 86 hours, but it's a 72-hour fast. And basically it's all water. So this is actually, this was done by doctors. They've got studies that are done on this out of Boston where if you water fast for seven days, it gives you an over 70% chance of not getting cancer, Alzheimer's disease,

and many, many other nasty shit. They've done a study in animals and humans. So I talked to Gary about it, and Gary is like it's absolutely legit. But you don't have to do seven days. You can do 72 hours and you walk me through how to do it. and what's crazy about is when you do it, you get absolutely fucking shredded. You get so ripped.

Oh, I saw the before and after. But that's not even what it's about. I'm hitting it right for Thanksgiving. It's about the inside is what you're doing it for. So, you know, there's all these philosophies. And listen, again, I'm no doctor and whatever. I just regurgitate what I'm told. And this was from the doctors from Boston.

So it's like coal plunging. When you go in and you cold plunging, you put your body through adversity, right? You're in 50-degree water for three minutes. your body starts to think it's dying and your body fights back. So your liver secretes this shock protein that's incredible for your body, inflammation, anti-age, all kinds of shit, right? You do that every day.

You become absolutely addicted to it. So when you do the water fast, basically what happens is when you stop eating, your body starts trying to defend itself. Are we starving? Are we this? Are we that? So it starts shedding all the bad dead cells in your body. And it starts generating new cells.

and starts to fight, are we going to starve, are we going to this, that, and that's how it fights cancer and all these other nasty illnesses. How does that not make sense? And then when you talk about fasting, you talk about where we come from and how we've evolved, right? Back in the day, they would go out and hunt and kill something, right? There was no refrigeration. There was no freezer. You went back and you ate the food.

And you didn't eat again until you hunted again. Yeah. Right? So these people would essentially fast. until they hunt it again and ate. How does that not make sense either? And when you're sitting on the couch on a podcast and you're fucking talking about this,

you're like, Jesus Christ, I don't know if I could not eat for 72 hours. I mean, two years, Dana, two years ago, would have said, that's fucking ridiculous. Why would I not eat for three fucking days unless I was on a deserted island or something, you know? Yeah. And then once you do it, the level of clarity that you get,

it's fucking and and I hate even saying this in front of people let alone on a fucking podcast because I sound like a fucking hippie but you get into this like zen state euphoric like fucking I don't know man I don't know how to explain it you you have to do it to believe it but fucking Erica did it too a lot of the people here now at UFC are doing the are doing the do you like it for first 24 hours she just got off it too I mean, yeah. So I don't want to throw her personal shit out there, but her weight, her whole life,

she's been at a certain weight. When she did this thing, she broke the weight, the lowest weight she's ever been as a woman. Yeah. You know what I mean? Broke to the barrier. How's the first 24 hours?

The first 20, it was good for me because I do the intermittent fasting anyway. Yeah. So I've gone, like when I fly, I do the whole Gary Breka system when I fly now too. So when you fly, like I went to Australia, I went to Abu Dhabi.

I just did it to New York. You don't eat. You fast on the plane. And there's these hydrogen bottle water things that turn your water, you know, your bottle water into hydrogen water. And you just drink that the whole way. And then when you land, you adjust to the time zone. It's fucking incredible. I've done it three times now on crazy flights.

And it absolutely- To where you're not getting the jet lag? Mm-hmm. So you don't get jet lag. Yeah. Is it like a machine that I've been doing it? Yeah. You put it in there?

I just, now you're not. just bought one that's a leader. These ones were small ones. Now I got the leader. Yeah, this is how fucking crazy into this shit I am. Yeah, it seems like you were telling me about your routine that you go through on a daily basis. You do it like religiously. Religiously. And I feel like I'm fucking in my 20s again, man. I swear to God. But you got the Jew, you definitely got the energy. We started this podcast off. Fun. With an absolute banger. And you were with me half the night last night playing fucking cards. And I was back in here this morning. And I'll be back in here tomorrow.

What time did you get up this morning? Well, I slept in late today. I got up at 7.30. So I slept in late today. He walked out at the Red Rock at like 233 o'clock. Yeah. And it's like non-negotiables. Like what are your non-negotiables in the morning for somebody who's listening being like, I love the energy, I love where he's at? Yeah.

What are the little things I can do now just for me to kind of be better? I have the pad in my bed that alkalines your body. I come straight here. I do the coal plunge. I do the steam. I do the oxygen therapy. I do the red light. And then I do my workout.

And on the days, because I work out, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then I don't work out again until Saturday, and then every day is recovery. So I do recovery every single day. So on days that I work out and do recovery, it's two hours of my morning, and then on days that I just recover, it's one hour of my morning. So when you, if you're somebody listening to this podcast, ball in on a budget, what's like the number one thing to you? They're like, if you want to just change one thing and do it consistently, what would that be?

And that is the hard part, and it's the thing that kills me is because I talk about this so much because I want to share this with other people. And I want people that are listening to know when you're seeing that doctor and the shit that you're telling them is wrong with you. And they can't fix it. And it never gets better. But they just keep adding more and more pills to your fucking pile that you're taking. And it makes you feel even shittier. There is hope.

You don't have to feel this way. And there's other guys out there like Gary Breka. Right? There's a guy. Will you go grab that book that's on my counter? You know the one I'm talking about, right? The books that I have. Nicole has one, bring it in here.

Because people that can't afford Gary Breka, I always tell people to watch Gary's podcast. He's at Gary Breka on Instagram. And there's another guy that Joe's had on that everybody tells me this book is incredible. And I buy this book and I give it to people. And I do this because I want to share this with people. But like the pad that I put in my bed,

Gary says you take your shoes off and you walk in the grass. And it's electricity, exactly, from the earth. And then if you don't have a cold plunge, jump in your fucking pool when it's cold out or put some ice in a bucket, you know, in a barrel. Cold shower. And cold plunge. Cold shower. All these type of things that you can do.

The red light therapy, get out in the sun, even when it's cold out. Gary always talks about first sun in the morning is the best. And, you know, so there's alternatives like this. And then there's this book. This book is called Outlive. I'm going to give everybody in here one, too. I just bought 10 more. I never met this guy

Don't know this guy I make no money off this shit I make no money off any of this shit In fact I pay Gary Breca Full boat Okay I'm telling you this and I'm saying this to you Because you can tell that it's super

passionate about it and it's real it works But this is called Outlive The Science of Art and the Art of Longevity Peter Atia Sorry if I'm butchering your name buddy Peter Atia MD everybody tells me that this book is incredible.

And even Gary, that's the other thing that I love about Gary Breka, Gary Breka doesn't need shit on other people and go, no, no, no, only my stuff will do this. Gary's like, this guy is brilliant, this guy's good, and this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. Gary is that type of guy. So there you go. Outlive. If you can't afford to do a lot of this stuff, check out Gary's podcast and his stuff and read Outlive by Peter Attia. I think this is a lot about Breca the way he doesn't,

you say he doesn't talk about other people. I've worked with some people like doing the blood work and all that trying to stay ahead of the chains with football. And it seemed like most of the people I worked with if I brought up somebody else. They're like, no, fuck that guy. Because everyone at the end of the day is trying to make money as well. But I hear Breck on, you know, the Rogan podcast. And you think about the rivalries within the game that people are living. And he talks about Andrew Heberman. He's like, guys awesome. Guy understands his shit. Like he knows what he's doing. So that says that probably says a lot about him. The first thing, honestly, other than when this guy started walking through the blood work, first thing I noticed about him, other doctors, and he says, listen, it's not, listen, when doctors go, they don't study human biology the way that they used to and everything else. He works with doctors who work. Everybody who has other opinions, he's like, no, that's, he doesn't shit on anybody, ever. Like, no, no, no, not that guy. My way, Gary is the exact opposite.

It's one of the things that I extremely respect about the guy. Yeah. So he speaks very highly of this guy. When you talk about Breka and he gave you like when you're essentially going to die. He said you had like 10, 11 years to live? 10.4. What was like your first thought when you heard that? Was it still in your mind this is a guy's load of shit?

Like you have to show me? Or was that like the wake up thing? It wasn't a wakeup because I wasn't a believer yet. Make me believe. Then I'll say, oh shit, I got 10 years left. So then after I started doing his stuff, you know what I believe? I believe I didn't have that long. I think Gary was being nice.

I don't think I had 10.4 years. I was fucking bad. And I think that, you know, there might be a lot of people out there listening right now that, you know, when you're a man and you got shit going on with you, you fucking deal with it. Boo-hoo.

My fucking legs are fucked up by this, that. Try to talk to a doctor that don't fix you. It's just like there's two things. Number one, I'm a man. I got to do what I got to do. I got to get up every day and deal with life. Yeah. Number one.

And number two, maybe this is how fucking 50 feels. I'm 50 now. Is this how 50 feels? It must be. You know, that's what you start to think. It is the furthest thing from the truth. And now I tell Gary all the time. I'm like, I feel fucking incredible.

I feel 20. And he's like, no, you don't. You don't feel incredible. This is what normal feels like. This isn't incredible. This is normal. This is what you're supposed to feel like. And it's all fascinating.

He's a fascinating dude. I hope that this dude lives to be a fucking 100 because a lot of people need him. Yeah, there's a book called Lifespan where a guy talks about that. Like if you can do fasting and do basic things like, and you can start to feel that normal you're talking about, like 100, 110 is like essentially the new 70. And like so on and so forth.

70's the new 40 and all that. Well, if you look at the generation before us, right? You got Clint Eastwood right now that's fucking 93 years old. Still doing it. He's a mayor of a town. Still doing it. Well, he was. He's not now.

He's not anymore. But still doing, still making movies. Still doing his thing. You got Gene Hackman still alive. I don't know the state of Gene Hackman. I haven't seen him in a while. But he's in his fucking 90s. He's still alive.

Bob Aram. I hate this motherfucker. Bob Aram, right? Let me tell you about Bob Aram. You go back and research anything about Bob Aram and me talking about him. I can't stand him, whatever. I have to give him the respect. I'm at the Aces playoffs.

So the WMBA champions, the Las Vegas Aces, I'm at the playoff game. It's 8.30 at night. Now you've got to pull up to the stadium in the back and you've got to walk quite a ways. I look over across the thing, it's 830, Bob fucking Aram is sitting at the fucking 91, 92 years old at the Aces game. I'm like, you got to be shitting me, right?

A week later, he's in fucking Saudi Arabia watching the fucking fights in Saudi Arabia. He's 90 fucking two years old. He's ripping. He's moving around. You got to respect it. You got to respect it. Right? Yeah, yeah.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers

was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,

and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The French Open is one of the the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.

Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become. quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hippocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice

and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man.

If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, Krimod. chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.

Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Cultura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm saying these guys from this generation now are already living into their 90s and flying to fucking Saudi Arabia to watch fights. How long are you trying to live? I don't give a fuck how long I live. I want a good quality of life. Yeah.

I want a good quality of. You know what I want to? Hey, Dana's 86. He's still alive. Fucking sitting in a wheelchair, drooling on myself in the fucking living room. You know what I mean? 86 at the high roller still fucking. I want to be in the high-limit room,

working on his $8.3 million that we've won over the last fucking 20 years. Let's fucking go with that. I can get on board with that. What's the lowest you've ever been down? The most? Yeah. Hey, that's a quick turn. Let's say positive.

You know what's the worst you've ever felt in your life? It's a good question. Two million. Two? Yeah. Did you bounce back from it or that's what you walked away? Maybe you came back from something lower. Is Hunter here?

Pull him in here if he's in here. I would love Hunter to be on this podcast. He's such a legend. Yeah. Just stays behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. Makes his appearance every now and then. While Hunter's coming, how much of a factor is Hunter in this business, the way he operates and everything behind the scenes?

So you want to know something fucking crazy? He was an intern here. No shit. Hunter was an intern? He was an intern. In like what department? Like legal and, yeah, legal. He's a lawyer.

Yeah, so he interned here when he, when he was in college, a young kid, and then he became a lawyer. And then he ended up becoming my lawyer. And then when we sold the company, I had to bring, you know, I brought him in as a, is he here? He's not here? It's a bad look. It's a bad look for a hundred.

Damn, I really wanted him to. Yeah, he's sitting in midsies. Yeah, I'll give you that. We're talking about how, oh, he is here? He said two minutes. Oh, okay. I was going to say we're talking about Grady is, and he's not at work today.

Yeah. And then he ended up becoming my lawyer, and when we sold the company, I was sort of rebuilding the executive team in a few spots, and I brought him in to be my right-hand man. Yeah, and he's fucking awesome. You know, he's great at what he does, but he's one of my close friends now, too.

I'm very good friends. He seems like the perfect ying to your yang, Because obviously... It's exactly what I was looking for. Yeah. What you can have here is two of me. You know what I mean? So Lorenzo for Tita and I balanced each other out.

I need to that other side of the scale to balance out the way that I am. Right, because you're a thrill seeker, you're competitive, you're fighting the good fight. Hunter's a lot that way too from what I've seen, but he has more of, um, he seems more cautious. in a lot of ways. And the simplest fact is when we get to the black table. Maybe analytical, calculated. Analytical,

because we'll sit there's table that, hey, you may, you play? And I mean, I know he's well off and he does his thing.

He's like, no. He's like, I'd rather own a casino than play the game. And every time I play, he's like, you're a fucking idiot.

Like, what are you doing? And I kind of feel bad about myself for a little bit. I'm like, now I'm going to keep playing, though. We're going to keep this thing rolling.

But he's, he's an awesome cat. I really enjoy him. owning a fucking casino is you've got to go through a lot of fucking bullshit to try to own a casino. You should, you should. So if, fuck that shit,

I want nothing to do with that bullshit. That's like a fucking running for office. So basically the government can come into your house at any point in time. Go through your safe. Go through your phone. Go through all your personal fucking records. You know, all this shit.

What people don't realize is the gaming industry is incredibly regulated by the government. You know what I mean? So when you're, go in there, like some nights when you're in there, you would feel like, I always talk about this, back in the Wild Wild West, you have played enough now to see that sometimes when these fucking cards flip, you're like, how is this even fucking numerically possible? Right.

That this could fucking happen this way. So think back in the cowboy days, when guys were really fucking stupid and had no education, hot-headed, everybody carried fucking guns. Imagine being a dealer or a casino owner back in those days, and you see these cards flipping the way that people had to die back then there's no way guys losing with 20 pull their fucking six looters out if you're losing the way of a fucking dealer because they thought they were cheating it's impossible but the reality is when you play these games and the way these cards flip it is the most regulated shit in this country all these games are square and on the up and up and

all the cameras and the government is is paying attention to everything it's very very regulated so to get a license in gaming you got to go through hell That's not worth your time You're more build brands Sell them move on I'm the guy on the other side of the table I would rather play against you Yeah

It's just my thing It's what I love to do And you know You have people Like Hunter and many other people Like why the fuck does this guy You doesn't need to get weather Because I like it

That's fucking why No shit I'm not of your fucking business Other than I like it It's what I like to do Every night, exactly It's what I like to do When's the last time

You didn't bet a max bet In Blackjack it's just it doesn't exist That's one of his non-negotiables That's a non-negotiable Oh, he counts cards He does this, he does that I bet the same

Fucking amount Every hand I bet the max every hand Yeah you don't just bet the max every hand You're also a psychopath The way I was watching you Because essentially when you get down The way you were last night

You have to rely on the doubles And the splits To get you back on track 100% And there was a couple times You know We're looking at a pair of twos Versus a cane

And you're like fuck it And then classic line Let's gamble And then you're double And whatever going after it and it obviously worked in your favor is it just a feel thing now? Yeah, it's just you have to mix it up.

You know, when we're in this, we're in this fucking loop that we were in last night, was it true or is it not true that I would tell you what was going to happen? That's what we were just talking about. Before it fucking happened. I told you what was going to happen.

So, you know, yes, for the most part you play by the book, but overall you play by your gut. And there's times when you have to do shit that doesn't make sense. Because nothing is making sense. When you have the amount of 20s that we had last night and we won none of them. When you have the amount of double downs that we had and we won none of them.

If I had a 14, I was absolutely positively getting the fucking 10. If I had an 11, we were absolutely getting the 4. Right. Right? I mean, all fucking night. So when that kind of goofy shit is happening over and over at fucking one point, I don't know if you remember this, but fucking, What's his name?

Orlando. Yeah. Played, right? John Orlando played. He got fucking murdered. Then we started playing. We got the same fucking hands that Orlando got. Same cards.

Same up against the fucking deal. Everything was exactly the same. Yeah. Like we were fucking caught in the Matrix and it was a fucking glitch in the Matrix. It was fucking crazy. It was wild. He started playing and sometimes you play where you just have the cards down. I don't know if you just enjoy it more.

The thrill of everybody else watching and no one really knows what's going on. and I was sitting right next to him. So I could see the cards. And he'd have six, like a two and a four. And the dealer would be showing a four. And he would just stay. No hit, no rhyme or reason. And then the dealer would bust.

And it was the crazy, the goofy shit you're talking about. Because you're taking that 10 all of a sudden. Dead on. You're fucking absolute. So when you're in this fucking loop when this shit's going on, I have the six. He gets the crazy. So he loves the game.

Every fucking time you hit that six, right? It's a four two, right? you hit it, it's the fucking tent. So most of the time when shit's going goofy, I will stay on the six. I will stay on, you know, hands like that. And the dealer normally, how many, how many times you see it last night?

I think it was probably exactly five or six and I think I lost one. And the ones you won the on just staying on six, it was kind of like a look at this fucking move. And the one he lost, you kind of flip it over. But even the dealers will flip it over and go, what? Yeah, yeah. It was so in the,

moment he's doing his mannerisms at the table too with the card swipe and everything else. In the fight? Yeah. And the thing that here's what blows me away about you is we've had conversations about people when other situations have happened and ESPNs and these other companies are calling you saying we want this guy out and you're like, all right, then we're out. That type of, how did you become an individual or have you always been like this where you're choosing people over business?

Because you meet people with money and there's a level of, I don't know, not. narcissism or something where they are so solely focused on their success that they don't care about other people's success. And it seems like you were the exact opposite. I've been at the table with you where you've handed me money. Just last night's a perfect example, Kyle from the milk boys, he's down 50. You're fucking around. You're on a hot streak.

You're like, hey, give me 30. Bing, bang, boom. Here's 30. And you kind of do that way. Like, what does that come from? Is that always been you? Or is it because you're the position you're in now and you understand people? I don't ever choose money over people, ever.

ever I don't know how to explain it but I will never choose it's just like you know this business the best example I can give you is going through COVID is no matter what goes on we're going to go through a lot of hard times we went through the you know the crash

in 2008 and 9 there's been other things that have happened in our business going up with one year we had every fucking main event fallout or co-main event with injuries and it was a rough pay-per-view year and you know we We've had times back in the day when we didn't know if we were going to break covenants and shit like that.

We never laid our people off. I will fucking, I look at every day when I get up out of bed and I go to work, I'm going to war. There's people coming to fucking take shots at us and try to take us down, whether it's the fucking media or these people or those people. And all these people that are in this building strap up and go to battle with me every day. So the UFC is this fucking battleship, right? and we're cruising and we're fighting the fight every day. Some people have been here for 10, 15, 20 years, right? And COVID was the perfect example because we've never found,

I mean, we've never been through a time that was as scary as COVID. Are we going to die? Is the whole world going to collapse? Is this going to happen? Is that going to happen? Now, I'm the leader in this organization, right? I am the guy who is, my job description is to run the business through the good, the bad, the ugly, all this shit. But I take care of my people.

My people depend on a paycheck every week for me. So the way that I am, what most businesses will do, you saw it a lot through COVID. You see a lot when they're going through hard times. The way that you make it a lot easier is you start fucking getting rid of people. So you put bullets on all these people. And, you know, then your costs go down and you manage the business, you do whatever. This is a fucking battleship. And we're either all going down together or we're not going down at all.

That's just the way that I'm fucking wired and the way that I look at it. And when I look at my employees, I expect a lot from them, right? This place is a fucking grind house. It's a hamster wheel. Every fucking Saturday we're putting on a fight. as soon as that fight is over, we start promoting the next fight on Monday, right? So think about this, and this is the way that I look at it. How many games have they missed that their kids played?

How many performances have they missed that their kids performed in at school? How many hours did they miss playing with their fucking kids and all this kind of shit? These are the things that I think about. And we hit some hard times, we hit a rock and roll, and that's it. You're just a fucking number. you're a you're a fucking number to the bottom line because that's basically what these companies do they go down and they look at the people

and if you make the most money you're probably the the one that's in the most risk right or there's multiple people that do your job or whatever and what goes out the window is all the shit that you've done for the company right all goes out right out the fucking window fuck that shit not with me I don't forget I don't ever forget

I always remember who was here and who did what, and, and, and, and, and, and the people that I don't even know what they did, I know what they did. You know what I mean? Because I know what we do here. And, and I will never pick money over people. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Your 20s can be so exciting, but they can also be really overwhelming, confusing, and honestly, just kind of lonely. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and the psychology of your 20s is breaking down the science behind the biggest roadblocks we face.

I was six years into my career, the 80-hour weeks, and just the first one in, the last one out, and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of my 20s that I, like, was just so wanting to, like, be out of that phase out of my skin. And I just, like, really regret not living in the present more. You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the I-HeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joey Dardano. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hippercre.

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