Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Jared Goff, Amon Ra St. Brown & Penei Sewell On The Detroit Lions

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

Recorded: July 25th 2024 | The Boys took on Motor City! After an exciting 2023 season, it only made sense for Will and Taylor to travel to the Detroit Lions' training camp to see what the team had in store for 2024. Jared Goff, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Penei Sewell broke down their thoughts on the future of the Detroit Lions, their roles in the team’s success, and how the Lions could ultimately achieve their greatest goal — a Super Bowl. Will and Taylor, as always, asked the hard-hitting questions: “Would you cut your d*ck off for a Super Bowl?”... “What’s your biggest pet peeve about Dan Campbell?”... “Are you packing lotion in your training camp essentials bag?” Between the laughs and jokes, there were also some real, thoughtful moments. Jared Goff opened up about his emotions when he was traded to Detroit and what it felt like to face the Rams in the playoffs. The Lions had plenty to look forward to heading into 2024, but they weren’t looking too far ahead. All three players emphasized the importance of training camp — that every rep brought them one step closer to the start of the NFL season. This one was an epic one, so enjoy!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Yeah, we got you. Get in, get off, get out. We know the drill. Appreciate it. Okay, first off, I don't know if this is breaking news. The Detroit Lions are now a cool football team. It's now cool.

It's now cool to be a Lions fan. It's cool to be in Michigan and being like, yo, we have the best college football program all time, 30 minutes away from Detroit, and now we possibly have Super Bowl champions in 2024. But I feel like you and I are very similar when it comes to the draft. I'll take you back to 2014. Lions were picking at number 10. I went to the University of Michigan. I was saying that I stayed to myself, for the love of God, please Lions, do not pick me. I do not want to go to this horrendous franchise. No disrespect, because I just said, we're cool now. I just said we're cool so it's all good.

I have some intel saying that you felt very similar in those situations, and now you're part of a franchise has a feel. Oh, no, not similar at all, to be honest. Let's just get that out the way. I mean, it's a lot different than when you were going in the draft. You know, I mean, you didn't have Campbell, he didn't have Holmes. So when I got drafted, I was really just happy. I mean, to be honest, I thought I was going to go earlier.

So once I just went past five, I was kind of like, all right, wherever I goes, I meant to be. I got picked here. And I think it's the best decision of my life. of my life, to be honest. Where did you think you were going to go? I think I was going to go to Cincinnati. Were you hopeful for that? No, honestly, I was hopeful for anything.

Just I didn't care. Yeah. That's right, because that was when they were talking about Cincinnati needs to take a tackle. And they took Jamar Chase, right? Yeah, Chase, yep. And made a great decision for now. Was your camp sitting there being like,

yo, Cincinnati's the move? That's where you're going to go. For the most part. It was leaning towards that way. Yeah. And how has it been seeing the fandom of the Lions when you first got here out? People were excited about Dan and all that,

but there was just like the 30 years, you guys literally broke the seal on something they haven't done forever. Seeing it now this year, all the hype, you get back in the city, you see everyone just totally dialed in everything. How does that feel, knowing that you've been a huge part of that? Man, it feels amazing, to be honest.

Just because my rookie year, I think we didn't win a game until like week 12, like 11 or something like that. That was depressing, to be honest. Never been a part of something like that. And just to see our growth from there and just to see what type of dudes that are in this building.

now it's just amazing you just see the progress you see the the the blueprint that homes and campbell put together and uh just makes you love the game you know with all like uh everybody loves coach campbell he's always got the clips that go viral people love the the football guy that he is what is your biggest pet peeve of coach campbell pet peeve there's not a lot but sometimes when he's in a team meeting room, he'll go on his spiel. And when he's on his spiel, sometimes he needs to take a break.

And it's a long break. And you just don't know what's going to, like, come out of his mouth next. So he's going on about a story. He'll pause for a nice three minutes. And then totally just veer off another direction. Like, we could talk about football and then have that pause

and then talk about his dog. And then end the conversation. And then it's over. It's done. You're just like, I thought that was supposed to be like kind of inspirational, kind of get something out of it. And then he'll just...

Yeah, man, he's really thinking of something deep here. Yes, exactly. You said in a team meeting room for three minutes. I was like, oh, man, I'm about to get pumped right now. Yeah. Give me something, coach. And then... Dog love steak or something like that.

That's probably the one thing. You know, after the first 30 seconds at that three-minute period, you're just like, hey, let's you know. Like, you whispering your boy, like, kind of nudging his leg or whatever. You can see his heart racing, too. Yeah. Like breathing heavily and just said, all right, come on, coach. Okay, what are you about to say?

And then he drops that. And you're just like, all right, coach. I see you next time. Dude, your offensive line is probably one of the best in the entire NFL. Sorry. No, that's not really good. I'm just giving your hard time. But with Frank and then Graham leaving and coming back and Decker and you, like the expectation of you guys

got to be so high this year. Like, do you guys talk about how, you know, There's such a, like the foundation of the team is really on the offensive line. Do you guys talk about how important it is for you guys to essentially live up to the standard that everyone's putting on you guys right now? We definitely don't talk about it because I think a lot of people already know and that everyone else is kind of talking for us. And so I think our thing is is just coming into the building every day and be in that example, you know, just not even talking about it. Just be it. And filling those shoes with no hesitation and a lot of confidence.

So I don't think we need to talk about it. So we just be about it. The offensive line rooms are the best. What do you guys operate by any rules? So for example, it's like the fine system. The fine. There's always a fine system, I feel like everywhere. If you get mentioned in a team meeting, you know, that's a fine.

If you're doing anything quirky, like what rules does your guys' offensive line room have? Or maybe it's with rookies. Maybe it's young guys. No rules for like, I guess the vets and the older guys, but the rookies, they have to to stock the fridge, sodas, juice, water, whatever the fellas want, and then snacks. Little Debbie's got to be a lot of Little Debbie snacks. Big little Debbie guy. Yeah, big, big time.

And then that's about it. And then maybe one of the vets want like an espresso machine or like a hot dog stand or whatever they want. So they'll ask the rookies. A hot dog stand. Has a rookie ever dropped the ball? No, so far this rookie class has been great, honestly. What about the holiday season? You get into Spooktober.

You got Thanksgiving around the corner. Christmas. So far, just Christmas. We don't do Thanksgiving or Halloween. We have the rookies decorate the room. And I think that's about it, to be honest. You guys get each other gifts? Yeah, we do like a white elephant type vibe.

Is there a limit? it? Last year it was a thousand. A thousand minimum? Yeah, minimum. That's a good white elephant. It's a good white elephant. It's a good white. Yeah. Some nice stuff out there. Some paid boys in there too. I'm going to negotiate down like here. Let's do 50. Yeah. Knowing it'll go up from there. Right. And you can't do cash. Right. Can't do cash. I can't. I don't want to step on your guys as traditions, but you guys really need to start decorating for Halloween.

You're in the middle of the season. The dog days. You should make the rookies dress up for Halloween. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, wait. Actually, the team had the team had the, the team has something. It's not just the O-L-Line, but the team has a thing where all the rookies have to dress up for Halloween and then Campbell introduces them, say what they are. Got you. So, yeah. Growing up, you grew up in Samoa, correct? Correct, America-Samo. And then you went to Utah when you're 12 years old.

Correct. When did you pick up football? Because obviously, you go into Oregon. You're an immediate starter. You win the Outland trophy. You've had a very decorated career already. But usually kids are picking up the game at like five, six, seven years old. Were you doing that in Mexico? I've always been around the game.

So, like, not playing it, like with pads on and everything, but my dad was a coach. So honestly, since probably, like, four, five, I've been around the game, just running around his high school team, helping him set up cones, and oftentimes running the drills with the players. And then my first padded youth gig was when I was 9 turning 10.

And this age group is a little different. on the island because you can't really be specific because of money and all that. It's not that much. So the ring, I think it was like 10 to 13. You could play. And then, like, that was the only range for the youth football down there. So I was 9 turning 10 and my two older brothers were already playing. And I was like, man, I'm on the edge.

Let me play. My dad didn't let me play that year just because everyone was just huge at 13 on the island. And so I played when I was 10. And that's when I just, I got killed. killed left and right, just getting killed by these 13, 14 year olds. Didn't play at all. But I think that moment right there is what really set me up for success. Because once I got to the island, I was the bully.

Like, growing up, I knew all those hits that I got were like hard. And like all those things that's just kind of like taking as a little kid. Now I'm the one giving it. So like I'm the one standing the tone. And I know what it feels like and I know what it looks like. So was it like growing up in a household like you obviously your three brothers they all play ball your old man's a head coach What's it like growing up in an environment like that honestly it was a lot of fun a lot of broken things in the house mom didn't like it But yeah super fun we played football every second we had

Was your dad hard on you guys for football? Yeah, that's about it though it was like football was my dad and academics was my mom Yeah so but yeah it was really harsh on us in terms of like doing the right things and learning the plays and stuff like that. But every chance we got on the island to play football on the beach in our backyard, on a mountain, like we played it. And it was like our football was like a bottle like this. Sorry, let me not put that up like that one. Yeah.

And then we'd fill it up the bottom with like sand and then water and it had some weight on it. And that'd be our football just because we didn't have one. That's badass. And then we just tossed around and just tackle each other, basically. Yeah, that's wild. And then you end up going to Oregon, which has, like, the nicest facilities of all time. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, no, it was a total, total flip.

Total flip. What made you choose Oregon? To be honest, it was a personnel that was there, head coach, Mario Cristobal. That's my guy. Love that dude to death. And fell in love with this whole philosophy, his whole vibe and what he's about. And I know he's an old line guy, too. And to have an old line guy as a head coach,

I think it's pretty good for me. No doubt. Should we tear talk? Let's hear some tier talk a little quick. All right, so we have this segment called tier talk, where essentially you tier one through three like your top three. Our tier talk with you is going to be necessities in training camp. What are the top three things that you have to have that you have to pack?

Do you guys stay in a hotel? No, no, I'm going to go home. But what are the three things you have to have during training camp? Phone, I guess. But with the phone, I watch movies a lot. just during the breaks. Are you a gamer? I am a gamer, but...

Were you like a rookie that if you were in a hotel anywhere, you're packing your Xbox or PlayStation and taking it? I think my rookie year, we went to... No, second year, we went to Indy for, like, a joint training camp. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I need it. I'm a big NCAA guy right now, so that's got me hooked. You play with Oregon?

All the time. I mean, they've won the best games. You any good? No, I'm still trying to figure out the... I'm horrendous. That's all I'm sitting in the same boat. Yeah. It's a little different.

But what else is what I need? I don't really need much, to be honest. How about some gold bond? Are you a chafer during training camp? No, no, I'm good. Look at you, man. I am, blessed you. I would always get the rashes.

Yeah. You know what I mean? That's a big gold bond on. Sit in front of a fan naked with Kalamine lotion in case I got poison ivy. Damn. Fuck. Damn.

Okay. Wow. Wow. Yeah, nothing else, though. Phone. I'm simple. What about you? Tier three, I do like the phone, so I'll put the phone out there.

Tier three, phone. Tier two, electrolytes. Because I'm a big cramper. So I would always be taking my water bottles and always be filling them up. But my tier one, because we did stay in a hotel, was lotion. Oh, bro, y'all are ridiculous. You know, I mean, there's so much time you have. You got...

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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What time do you get back? Calm? Yeah. True. I got back last night around 740. So we would get back like 839. Yeah, that's tough. I would take those 15 minutes and it would be me and myself and I.

In a hotel or home. We didn't stay in a hotel. Yeah, we have to stay in a hotel for the first until the second. I mean. All right. You got to do it. Yeah, we got to do what you got to do. You can't tell me you walk into a hotel room and you're not like this is the safest

I'll ever be in the situation. You got to take care of. You got to take care of business. 100%. So that's my away games. My tier one is lotion. Oh, maybe. necessity is

some nicotine Lucy Lucy Lucy gotta be stressful out there the only thing I feel like I would add is Norma Tech

I feel like I was always packing Norma Tech's everywhere I went Norma Tech Xbox It's a good one Lotions a great one But Norma Tech

I'll start with Gold Bond Norma Tech Xbox So I would never bring the Xbox Because my brain I'd be up until like 2am

And then the next day I'm screwed Yeah but it's like It's especially important Like for an off day Off days when it's a big Xbox. Yeah, if the boys, running the hallways. You know what I mean?

All good points, all good points. It's just me. If I walked into a room, like now the lotion's in the corner, and I got to play the Xbox for four or five hours. I got a snack and the table. I got, I got stuff I got to figure out. Guys are wondering why you're not sitting with them for snack at night and you're just packing it to go to get up to your room.

Right. Immediately go play. Imagine trying to play, trying to be in camp right now with CFP 25 going on. I know. No, because I love that game right now. I don't know. You obviously sign in, congratulations, the biggest, the highest paid alignment in history as of right now. What is, we love to ask this question, and please humorous, what has been your biggest splurge purchase since signing that contract?

Or maybe when you got drafted in the first round, I mean, you are like the man. I guess, let's start with the rookie one. A house, but like, that's, I guess, standard. They didn't need a roof over my head, but a car I got the TRX. I rocked that bad boy, you know. So that's my baby right there. And then this big contract. Honestly, not much other than a jury.

Yeah. Big jury guy. Yeah, not me, but for a significant other. You just got married. Congratulations. Thank you. Was it a little two weeks ago? Yeah.

No honeymoon. Not yet. We're going to wait. Where are you going to go, man? I don't know. Bali's calling my name a little bit, but we'll see. I don't know. It's not for sure.

That's just an idea right now. I couldn't even pick that out of the map if I wanted to. Me neither. That's the thing. You just want to go and just culture yourself. Exactly. I love that. Enjoy the vibes.

We appreciate you coming, man. Thank you so much for having me. I don't know, just a pain in the ass. So just taking that little bit of time out of your days, it means a lot. So we appreciate you. Thank you guys. I appreciate it, man. Appreciate that, bro.

Look at that. Punction. Punction. Punction. 200 balls a day caught in the jugs. Right. Did you do it today? Yeah, yeah, before practice.

Sorry, before practice. Before practice? Before practice, yeah. All right. You've had an, you've had, I'm on episode six. You've had an incredible showing so far on the receiver. I appreciate it. I really respect it.

And I'm super curious what it was like growing up in the household with your old man. Honestly, for me, it was normal. Like, that's the life. I grew up, you know, knowing him, you know, being the guy he is. Everyone sees the way he acts, you know, him telling me to just. drink of Coke at halftime. I'm used to it. I'm getting those texts all the time.

You know, the sayings that he has, I'm used to it. Him, you know, being like our trainers. But, you know, outside of sports and being our trainer, he was awesome dad. So it was a good time. When we had a CMC on, he would say that his dad, Ed McCaffrey, like, he would get grounded if he got armed tackled in youth football. Did you have anything like that with your old man? Because I would assume he was pretty hard on you guys.

Yeah. No, I didn't get, no, I wouldn't say I got grounded or, you know, punished for anything. It was just like, you know, if you had a bad game, getting that car right home is always hell. It's like, that's the last thing you want to do after the game, after a bad game is, you know, you got to get in the car with your dad and go home, and he's going to tell you everything you did wrong and what you got to fix and how you got to be better. And so those are, I would say that's what I dreaded most, just the car right home. Or we'd go after, you know, after practice, go back to the park by a house and get more drills in. just keep working on the stuff that I wasn't doing right so I was used to it but as a kid it's like here all right here we go like I got to go back to this you don't know any other way that's all I knew

without with your old man like obviously him being a part of like your strength your coaching all that stuff at what point where you're like hey dad like I'm a senior at USC like I have coaches for this now right in college it was it was a little different because I wasn't with him so I was the first time I wasn't with my dad you know almost every day so but I went to USC so it was like an hour away from from his house so he'd be at a lot of the practices obviously you couldn't come to all them because some practices aren't open to family but he would come to a lot of them and you know he would still coach me up he kind of let me do my thing more when I got to college but if you saw anything that he didn't like he was either telling me text me call me

whatever it was but even still to this day in the NFL he's still you know texting me calling me you know giving me his thoughts and opinions for me I you know I respect it obviously, you know, he's never played at this level. So some of the things, it's hard for me to explain to him. Because, like I tell other people, he's like, I want you to get the ball. For a second, third down, every play, like, you should be getting the ball. I'm like, it doesn't work like that. I got to run routes, got to run guys off and things like that.

So he just wants me to, you know, keep going, keep going. And I get it, but I love him to death. How is his exposure as far as, like, the Netflix receiver and all that? How has he been received by the public? People love him, bro. Yeah. I'm in the locker room. I got teammates not even talking about me.

They're talking about my dad. I love your dad, bro. He's awesome. I got Michael Badgey telling me. He's looking at all the podcasts. He's keeping up with him. He loves his sayings. I tell everyone like, bro, I'm used to it.

Like, every day, I can tell you what he's about to say before he even says it. Like, I know exactly what type of guy is. But the people love him. And they love, you know, I think he's raw. He's honest. He's himself, no matter if the cameras are or if it's not. And I think people, you know, respect that. But I think his personality is just.

One of one. What's his go-to quote? Like, what is the number one quote of his? Go-to quote, I mean, as a kid, there was so many, I feel like he always reminded us about, you know, decision-making. He would tell us something he would tell us, you know, you can either listen to me or listen to yourself. But if I were you, I would listen to me. That's something he always told us growing up as kids. I mean, there's so many, you know, shoot for the stars because the bottom's overcrowded.

I mean, he has so many sayings. Then he has these little one-offs. I don't know if you guys have seen our podcast, but it's like if in a situation arises and something looks too good to be true, be careful. All candy looks good before you taste it. Like there's so many little sayings he has

that he always ripped out on that. Yeah. But I'm used to it. I mean, I've picked up some from him too. You brought up the podcast. How long have you guys been doing a podcast? We've been doing it. This is going into our third year now.

Yeah? Yeah. And is it, do you guys do it weekly or just during the season? During the season, every, we record it on Tuesdays and it drops on Wednesdays. What's it called? It's called the St. Brown Podcasts. Go check it out, subscribe. 35 stars.

Yeah, rate five stars, drop comments. Right. Dude, I love the way you play. I feel like you play pissed off, which also is... Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?

We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast.

I could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs.

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You go to USC. You leave early and declare for the draft. You get drafted, which round again? Fourth round. But where do you feel like you found this chip on your shoulder to play the way that you play? I think for me it was, I've always been like that. Ever since, you know, I was a kid, I've just been super competitive. I've always, and I hated losing.

That's the biggest thing for me is whatever I do, I don't want to lose, especially if I'm playing sports because I love, I love sports. I love them growing up, basketball, football, soccer, everything. I hated losing. And so when I got to high school, I played varsity as a sophomore, and I played a little, got hurt, broke my foot. And then my brother was bawling out. He was a junior going crazy.

I was like, I can't let my brother out do me. So then he, you know, next year I'm a junior. He's a senior. I got to do better than him. He was going crazy. I had like 15 touchdowns over a thousand yards. And I was super happy for him, but I was like just me being me, like being around my brothers all the time, I got to do better than my brother. So going into my junior year, I was like, I got to do better than him.

So we both, you know, had great years. I might have had a little more touch, like a few more stats than him, but it was like neck and neck. He ended up leaving and going to Stanford. And then, you know, I got my senior year at Motter Day. And at that time, it was like a five-star or whatever, like you said. And won the state title. Yeah, we won everything. I'm one of the best teams ever in high school football.

But we won the whole thing. You know, did all the camps, the Nike opening and everything. And being at those camps, I just love one-on-ones. That was the biggest thing for me was doing one-on-ones, you against the DB, what a quarterback everyone's watching. And I just love the competition aspect of, you know, me versus you. And then ever since I feel like, you know, high school going into college, I wanted to play as a freshman.

So I was out there as a freshman trying to dog people, whatever I could do, running people over, blocking, trying to make every catch, taking every rep if I could. And that just kind of transitioned it all the way, and then I got dropped it late. I was mad already, got here. And same thing over again.

I wanted to go dominate. Yeah. There's something about like football players, even when you're having the success you do, in a good way, like delusion of being like these people don't believe me, so I'm going to have a chip on my shoulder.

Right. With your brother going to Stanford and you guys playing against each other in the Pac-12, the conference formally noticed a PAC 12. Did you everything about going to Stanford? I did. It was between Notre Dame, Stanford, and USC.

So I had my oldest one to Notre Dame. Middle one to Stanford. Then I went to USC. But coming out, I was like, I love, I always love Stanford because it was an educational smart school. I just love Coach Shaw and everyone. And then Notre Dame, I didn't really know much about Notre Dame. My brother took a visit, and I went with him.

And I was like, this is pretty cool, like tradition, everything. The location is a little eh, but like once you get there, it's like its own world. The games are amazing, electric. So went to Notre Dame when I visited. I love Notre Dame, but I was like, he ended up declaring as I was coming out of high school. So if he would have stayed, I think one more year, I probably would have went to Notre Dame to play with my older brother because I've never played with him. But he ended up declaring to go to the NFL. I was like, you know what, Notre Dame is cool.

He just left though. Stanford, they don't really throw the ball. I love the school, but they don't throw as much as I would like. And USC is close to home. And I want to keep my talent. Yeah. Yeah, my talent at home. You mentioned being pissed off being drafted late.

There's a, you have a list of receivers that got drafted ahead of you. What are the names on those lists? You know, I would recite those again for you guys, but you guys probably heard it too many times. You guys are sick of it now, so I can't do that again for you guys. Now, when you were coming out, I know a couple sites like PFF, draft network, they projected you in like second or third round and talked to you being a pure second string player.

Do you ever think, do you ever remember these things now that you've had the success that you do? You know, I wouldn't say like back, you know, coming out, obviously, you know, when I first started, when I first got here, and I started making some plays, yeah. But like now is, I feel like I don't really pay too much attention to that. I mean, that's their job. They got to make, media has to make, you know, predictions, whatever, that's their job. That's what they have to do. I don't blame them. I don't think they're the best at it, but it is what it is.

But now I'm at a point in my career where it's like I'm worried about, you know, obviously I want to play good. Every player wants to play good, but I feel like we just want to win a Super Bowl. That's the biggest thing. Whatever it takes for me as a team to lead, whatever it is, to be a good teammate, to make more plays if I have to. Go out there and go be Super Bowl champs. That's the biggest thing I feel like we know we can do as a team. We feel like we got the guys in our building on our roster, the coaches. We've been here for a while now, and I mean, we got so close last year that I mean we just got to push a little harder if when will was already talks about the intensity you play with and everything the competitive nature when you're in the

locker room with guys in the wide receiver room is a dramatic room it can be very like finicky that way when you see guys maybe not putting in the same effort as you how do you approach it from a leadership standpoint um you know sometimes it's tough for me I feel like I don't want to I don't want to I don't one of the teammates to think I'm being tough on them where I don't like them. So that's kind of something that I've been trying to battle right now is when to speak up and what not to because I'm not a guy that's a hurrah guy. I'm going to go out there. I don't say much.

I'd like to work. I'd rather show you better than I can tell you. But, you know, if something is out of line and I feel like I need to speak up, I'll speak up. But, you know, if someone's not working hard on the field, I feel like what our practice is, it's kind of hard not to work hard when everyone's working hard. you'll kind of be like the automatic now if you're not doing the right thing.

So I feel like our coaches and teammates, everyone does a great job of pushing each other. So that's not really a problem we have here. But like I said, if something is really out of line, then I'll speak up. But for the most part, I just like to show the guys how I work

and, you know, let my play to the talking. Do you find yourself, like, focusing on developing into that, like, more of a vocal leader now that, like, when you're a guy, like obviously your voice carries more weight. Right. Yeah, like I said, it's something I've been working on because my whole life I haven't really been a vocal leader.

That's not something that I thrive in. I feel like some guys talk too much, and that's not the guy I want to be. I want to be a guy that when I do say something, you know, people are listening. So it just hasn't been me, but something I definitely need to work on and get better at is being more vocal.

But like I said, I don't want to be redundant someone that's speaking too much. That's the worst for me. So like I'll speak up if I have to, but something has to really be going wrong for me to speak up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. USC going to the Big Ten this year. How do you feel the boys in California stack up

against a real Big Ten ball? You know, I love the move. We're not worried about the Big Ten, though. Let's unpack that for a second, because, you know, the National Champions. You guys got to take a lot of long flights. A lot of long flights. All Michigan wants to do is run it.

Like, just pack the box. They can't throw. Make them throw. We'll be good. Every team they played against did that. And they lost I thought that's gone now. They lost eight guys.

Who? They lost eight dudes. Right. Michigan did. Yeah, well, actually they lost 15 guys because they all got drafted.

Even guys, even guys, it's over. It's over. What are you talking about? What is we load? What's USC doing? Don't worry.

We got Lincoln Riley. It's going to be out. Do you guys promote pinning your fingernails in California? Is that like a big thing? No, we don't promote anything.

If you want to do it, go ahead. I love that. Yeah. That's a good PC answer by you. So you guys are going to run the Big Ten, no problem.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally.

calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I don't know if we're going to run it, but it's going to be fun. I know Michigan's done. Like, they have their one shot. It's over with.

That is a wild. It's done. Wild statement coming from you. Half of your fans are Michigan fans. No, they're Detroit Lions fans. And if you're not a USC fan, there's a problem. Are you going to go to the game? September 21st?

I wish. We actually have an away game. That sucks, dude, because that would be... It would have been lit. For you to see that kind of experience would be unbelievable. You've probably never seen anything like that. What kind of experience are you talking about? The biggest stadium in North America, the third biggest in the world?

Yeah, actually took an official to Michigan when I was coming out of high school. Michigan, Michigan State. It's raining. Don't do it. Crazy. Michigan State won. I'm like, I can't go here. What was that?

What was that? That was 2017. They won? Bro, Michigan State. He said they won? Raining like crazy. I'm from Southern California. I'm like, this rain is ridiculous, number one.

I couldn't catch a ball on this. Then I'm like, and they lost, vibes were low. Recruiting coordinator. I wasn't feeling nothing. I'm good, bro. Was the stadium loud? No. No.

Why are you doing this, man? Not at all. I'm supposed to be like getting a rapport together. I love it. I love the back and forth. I can't wait until September 20th. Keep your DMs open. I will be there.

I will be there. I will be there. After that game. I will be ready. Right now. Yes. Dude, what do it mean for you to be the youngest receiver to amass a thousand yards? I think it was eight days before Calvin Johnson.

It was cool. I mean. I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's dope. That's just cool. That's awesome. Right. I mean, Calvin's arguably one of the best receivers to ever play. So for me, like being in, you know, playing for the Lions, everything you do is compared

to Calvin, which is, it's great, but it's also tough. Like, he's the best, one of the best to ever do it. So it's an honor to be. you know even considered you know being the same conversation as him but he did it for so long and I feel like I mean I see pictures on Twitter of him when he was playing the Saints it's him on the goal line with literally two dbs on him like you don't see that anymore anywhere like that's just shows you how you know how dominant he was so just to you know being like I said the same conversation as him is is an honor but I got to keep going man he was he was a he was a beast what receivers do you

keep your eye on now like in your in your brain who's like the top three um you're not going to give me on a top three i'm not going to give me no top three um but guys that like to watch podcast podcast okay it's polished guys that i like to i'll watch a bunch of guys honestly i mean i can go down the list um we do a top three guys like to watch top three guys i like to watch we can do that like if you find a man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we found a lane top three guys this is not my top three by the way but the guys I like to watch Devante Adams love watching him

I'm gonna go Kenan Allen last one let's just go I'm gonna go Justin Jefferson since he's in our division we play him twice a year we watch we play the same team so we get to see on film you know a lot of the stuff that

they do and he's a lot on the tape a lot so he's a he's nice this top three top three top three wide receivers I'm Ross St. Brown that things Jamar Chase is over I'm not correct What fun question We have one more minute

Should we do a segment Should we do Shatternephyr Real quick or are we holding that? What was a twisted question? It was, are you familiar with the Was it American Ninja Warrior? American Ninja Warrior?

All right say You need to get through the course And tap the button on the other side To save the world Who in the locker room Would you trust the most To accomplish The American Ninja Warrior obstacle course?

Ooh, to save the the world it's a great question shirm do i know what kind of obstacles there are like the main course does weight speed does that stuff matter yeah yeah yeah yeah you have to be fast i think so like it's a jungle gym out there hmm i was gonna say balance i was gonna say panet would i think we're all dead i think we're all dead let me go some of games might be would be a good one you got to climb you got climb you got balance jumping timing right right let me hold on aiden hudgeonson but he's whining bike he said he's too big right trust a white guy you can't just a white guy but the fate of the world he'd be too big he'd be too big he's no shot caliph raymond might have a shot oh caliph

but he's a dog he is bro you have to run up the ramp and he is shorter he's fast though he's got a little spring to him he's got a little explosiveness to him yeah Well, this is not our, we don't have to think of the question. It could be you. Not, no, besides me. Khalib is great, but you already said that, so I'm going to go to someone else. Can I do David Montgomery? Yeah, absolutely.

That's a great. He's still like a running back career player in NCAA 14. Sneaky picking fantasy, too, for everybody listening. Beast. They don't throw the ball. He doesn't catch a lot of balls. You don't need to. You can run the rock with them.

Run the fucker, bro. If you're playing PPR league, you don't know what that. I had him last year. He was nice. Going crazy touching. He's going crazy. How many turns out of that? Like 12 or 13?

Yes. After a week one of the season last year, I was done with him. I had him over. He was, he was point five on catches. What do you mean? Yeah. Why did him to catch it? Because that's what I bet on.

Oh, you're betting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking about fantasy. I'm bringing this and doing it. Got you got you. Do you play fantasy? No, I do not. You can play fantasy.

I don't play, though. Okay. I'm sorry. Now you're good. That Michigan stuff really bothered you, huh? You're mad about that Michigan stuff. It's all right, dude. Go Blue.

And we appreciate you so much for coming on. Seriously, love seeing your success. Appreciate it. You're amazing. Check those DMs. St. Brown Podcast. I will be there. Yep.

You guys ate. Matter of fact, too. What is the game? September 21st. Yeah. Taylor, you should go on St. Brown Pod that week after. If you guys want to talk, we can talk. Absolutely.

Are you sure? But come correct. You better come correct. What are you talking about? I have the 2024 national champs on my back. You are the. The team last year. Were you part of the team?

No, but I am. I was just wondering. Would you all win at the USC? What did we win? Well, yeah. How many do you guys have? Okay, I was just wondering. How many do you have?

How was just thing is that? I know that's for sure. Reggie just got us back to us. Yeah. I mean, you guys, in 2000s, for real, that's the team to go to. But it's the 20s. It's fine. I don't want to do this.

You don't want to do this. It's over. Like Michigan. I'll see you on your podcast the week of. September, so 21st of the Saturday. That week. Three days after that, the 24th. We'll see you. All right.

Okay. There we go. We got one. Done. Right before you leave, top three locker room guys in Detroit. Lockroom guys, what? Lockroom vibes.

Who you get it? When after practice, before whatever, you're excited to go in the locker. You're like, man, Graham Glasseh is awesome. He's got to touch with the tips him, but he's awesome. I'm going Jamar Jefferson. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news? Huge news. We create. our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And... Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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on Clay. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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But he's going to, I'm going to take Jamar Jefferson, who's that. Khalif Raymond. Who else is next to me? Vibes? Kirby Joseph. I love it. Friendships just got divided if the boys listen to this pod. No question.

We appreciate you coming on, man. Yeah. Thank you. Enjoyed camp Yes sir You are the man Thank you Are we rolling right now

Some people Some people might not know you for Is that you're a fan Of beer games championship At the world I heard Yeah yeah well As soon as I heard My teammate Graham Glasgow

Was participating I had to check in And see how it went I heard you want a bid for 2025 See in or you in? I have to check my calendar You don't know the date So there's no

Hey but it's smart That he says check the calendar With all the shit that happened And if I'm off and I have time I'd like a bid yeah How do you think you'd fair in that type of situation. Not great.

I'm an okay beer drinker. I'm not like an all-star, but I'd have fun. I need like a good teammate. What was your best skill set? Let me and Graham show up. We might do some damage. You definitely should get an alignment. Right.

They all perform very well. I'm good at Flip Cup. I can do beer pong. Like the chugging thing, I'd get smoked, but I'd do it, but I'd get smoked. What do you think you could put, how fast you think you could put down 32, 36-ounce? 36-ounce. Yeah, I saw you guys doing that. What'd you do in like five, six-six-out?

seconds. Yeah, he's, yeah, he's a pretty, I don't know, 12 to 15, 20 seconds. I don't know. So we're in the same category. We're in the same tier. Yeah, I think, 13, 13, 1. Honestly, you're hearing this like lack of confidence, I don't think you're smoking them. Because you get better every year. Thank you. You look like the type of guy can just, like, kind of open your throat and that thing just right to your stomach. Yes, absolutely. It's, it's been a gift my whole entire life. There you go. It's been a special good for you. Yeah, it was fun when, and when Graham texted me and said that, you know, You were interested in doing it. I looked at my phone.

I was so excited. And then I didn't text him back at all. And so he actually just called me out of it after practice today. Yeah. Yeah, he's sensitive. He's a sensitive boy. He's very sensitive. He is,

but the best part about Graham is he's consistently himself through every situation. Thousand percent. He doesn't change himself at all. He's one of my favorite teammates. Is you really? And don't tell him I said that. But yeah, he's one of my favorite team.

If you were to give me off the top of your head, not putting a whole lot of thought into it, so we have an insurance policy, what would be your top three teammates of all time? Of all time? Because you've had some good teammates. I mean, I'm going to lean towards, like, the funniest guys I've been around, and Graham's one of them.

Graham's one of them, probably. Like, Tavon Austin used to kill me. I was with him for a couple of years in L.A. Shoot, favorite. I mean, that's hard. God, she put him on the spot, man. I know. Tavon was funny as hell.

I love Tavon. So I'll put him as two or three. And then, you know, David Montgomery makes me laugh a lot here. Yeah? Yeah. You see a jokester on the team? Yeah, he's hilarious. He's funny.

But, like, very subtle humor and really funny. Yeah. Should we ask him what we ask, an A? That's your talk? No, about Coach Campbell. Yeah, sure. He's such a beloved character. Everybody, is it beloved or beloved?

Beloved. Everybody loves him. Any clip you see, he's a football guy through and through. We asked, what is your biggest pet peeve with him? Ooh, gosh. You know, I'll just, I'll tow the company line here, just how consistent he is. So Pineday was saying in team meetings, he'll get long-winded. And then he'll pause and take a break for like a minute, three minutes along.

Sure, that's a good answer. That's a better answer than I gave. He's just so dang consistent, he's hard to keep up with, you know. We're not going to get anything out of him. Yeah, no doubt. That is tough. That's a great politically correct answer. Yeah, it's true.

But, yeah, I wish I had something better. I definitely want to dive into like obviously L.A. coming here and then the playoff game you guys had, but like starting with the fan bases. Yeah. What is the biggest difference you noticed from like this Midwest fan base compared to that West Coast fan base? Yeah, it's entirely different. Obviously you played at Michigan, so you have a little bit of a feel for it. Like the people around here just live, breathe, die football. And in L.A., there's just a lot of things to do that aren't football. And whether it's other sports or the beach or going to dinner and a million things.

But around here, man, it's football. And we got the whole state is Lions fans. And in California, obviously, there's a bunch of teams. So it's entirely different. And it's a lot of fun to play for them. Dude, what was the ride like when you guys are bringing that division title here? Fun. Fun, really fun.

I really started in like 2022 and we were able to like kind of turn it around a little bit. We had that Thanksgiving game at home against the Bills. It's kind of when I first saw the stadium kind of flip and like, oh, this is what it could be like if we kept winning and kept making plays. And we did through that year. And then obviously last year, it's been insane. It's been so fun. The stadium has got to be one of the lot of stadiums in the league now, and how much they care and how much they bring it.

It's fun. It felt like basically everybody was rooting for you guys, especially when you won the division town. You saw the stadium's reaction. I feel like everybody else around the country was buying into the Lions. Yeah, dude, it felt good. I wouldn't have known until the off season. I had a lot of people being like, hey, man, my team was out of it,

so I was rooting for you guys. All right, thanks. But, yeah, our fans deserve it, man. They've been through a lot here, and we were able to give them a little slice of joy last year and weren't able to finish it off like we wanted to, but it was a fun ride. They mean to the playing the ramps in the playoffs. First meeting, Stafford's coming back, he's getting booed in the building. It's essentially it's a get back game for both of you guys.

Because everyone who goes place for a team, they leave go somewhere else. Ben Jones is always a guy who comes to mind. He played for the Texans, came to the Titans. And every time we played the Texans, it just meant a little bit more like, what was that week like for you leading up to that with everything on the line? Yeah, it was certainly there was emotions with it. and that was the battle for me was to kind of fight those and focus on what was important and winning the game. And that became easy really when I just thought about like what that game meant to this city, kind of what we had just talked about and these fans. Like sure it was important for me and there was a lot of storylines for myself, but these guys, you know, around here,

we haven't won a playoff game in 30-something years. It was so much bigger than me and that was easy for me to like focus on that instead and take a lot of the, you know, pressure or whatever off of off of my performance in the game and just go out there and play. Does that kind of happen once you just kind of complete your first pass and get into it? It did. Because I would assume it. Yeah, pregame was weird. And like the channing and like all that.

There was like a lot of stuff going on and like, you know, I've seen a lot of my. Hey, it's us to Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast.

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing,

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She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Former teammates and all my good friends, former coaches, and you know you're going to see them, but until you see them and have those moments, you're like, all right, I've got to go through that and see these guys. But yeah, once the first snap

and through the first completion, it was all go from there. What was it feeling like being traded in the situation? I mean, you took the ramps to the Super Bowl. You guys had a lot of success. And then they're essentially, the lines are giving up Stafford and they're taking you. What was your thought process going through?

Was there a morning process at all? yeah there was it was it was certainly um a shock at first you know there wasn't much conversation had with me and i've i've told this story a hundred times but i there was there was just no true communication and and there's been a lot of um a lot of talk since then which has mended some of that but um there wasn't much communication so it came as a shock and then you know as soon as as soon as i talked to brad and dan which was that night it flipped very quickly into like wow what an opportunity I have here to be on the ground floor of something so special and something that could be, you know, what we hope to build this into, which a Super Bowl champ.

And we feel like we've had some success and done a lot of that. But the opportunity piece that quickly came in after talking to those guys, completely changed my mentality. I was just going to say, it always sucks when you finally taste like the teeth of the business. It almost doesn't matter what level. Like you were a high paid quarterback for L.A. They were born into you. like even being a lower tier guy not getting re-signed by your team there's always like once you taste that or you get cut and you realize how much of a business it is and how much lack of conversation actually happens and kind of like you're kind of like shunned by it i think it's made me uh less naive you know i think i think when i was younger like it was like oh they love me you know we signed the extension you know here we go we're going to be together for 15 years and and everyone thinks that right and and you know eventually that that changes and i think um it's a lot of my perspective to be much better on what it is.

And the relationships are important, and it is family and you love your guys. But the end of the day, you do know that there are powers at B that will do what is in their minds best for the team. Yeah. With one thing I've noticed being at this facility and during practice,

a lot of people are saying Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, and usually a team that has a success the way you did, it's all about like, everyone's kind of afraid to say I want to win a championship. What makes it so easy in this building to make it so freely said? Because a lot of times it's like Voldemort.

Yeah, I know, I know what you mean. We tasted it last year. I think last year, before we had won our first playoff game in 30 years, there was like, hey, we need to get into the playoffs and win the playoff game, which was absolutely the goal last year, and it's still the goal now. But I think with that being said, we do know we are capable of more. You know, and we'll be extremely disappointed if we're unable to accomplish either of those goals. But it is win the division, get in the dance, win a playoff game, you know, certainly control your home destiny, and then win a Super Bowl. we're not afraid to say that like you said and I think it's because you know we did taste it last

year we were right there we had we had played a good game against san francisco they played just a little bit better and we're able to beat us let's just say hypothetically speaking you guys haven't tasted the playoffs for 30 years right last year let's just say you get in the first round of the playoffs and you guys won the division but you lose the first round of playoffs are you still saying hey successful season like we've got a monkey off of our back yeah no you're not thinking that gosh no no it was winning a playoff game winning a playoff game winning a playoff Yeah, they had been to the playoffs here in the last, I don't know how many years when it was the last time. But since I've been here, we hadn't been.

But it was winning a playoff game. And sure, we were able to get that monkey off our back. But once we, you know, won that first playoff game, it was like, let's go win the Super Bowl. And that was our goal for those following three weeks. And we came up short. And so then the last six months has been, let's go win a Super Bowl. Would you cut your dig off for a Super Bowl? Man.

Hard-hitting questions. I know that's what Rayble said he would do. I'd like to think that I have enough ability to do it without doing that. I have the belief in myself that I don't have to do that. So I'm going to say no, because I'm going to do it without having to do that. Well said.

Well said. How about a pinky toe? I don't know if I'd be able to play after that. But you know you get a Super Bowl. No. Because again, like I got my pinky toe. I can win. I can win a few more.

Yeah. Modern medicine technology these days. You put them to sew it back on. Yeah. If you tell me I can sew it back on. Yeah. No problem. Can I sew it back on?

Yes. Yeah. Sure. All right. Then I can keep playing. All right. And I'll go hopefully one more. I love that.

Those are my questions. That's all you have? That's all I have. I'm sewing the pinky toe back on. Yeah. So you're sewing the team. Yeah. Not not the other deal.

I don't know how familiar are with Bustra voice, but we have segments. And a segment is called shout out, no free shout out. And usually it's just like the simple pleasures in life. Like, you know, someone brought up a good one the other day. It was like at school and it's the cold water fountain. Right.

That's a shoutout, no free shoutout. But we're going to hear a little more specific because we are in training camp. So I want to hear shout out no free shoutouts to like little pleasures of training camp. We can go first, break the ice a little bit. But I wanted you to put in your mind. I thought about it today. Did you really? Sorry if I'm, and this is so on the nose for busting with the boys.

But like the downtime, the in between meetings. Like coaches are watching film. We're down. We're either eating lunch or we're just doing nothing, just hanging. Like with the boys. And I know it's like so on the nose. But like today earlier, we had a half hour to kill in the quarterback room. Just kind of hanging, talking, chat, and doing nothing.

And those are the best times, I think. Camerodery. Can't beat camaraderie. Can't beat it. And this is when it's built. And I do think Dan is aware of that and knows we have downtime and hopes we're building that camaraderie. I love it. I'm going to say when you get a surprise practice off,

the entire team. Like you do the morning practice and they cancel walk through in the afternoon. We have yet to have that and I'm not, I've not. Just started. You guys just started. Oh, you've yet to have it. Since I've been in a line. So I don't think that's in the cards for us.

But just know that players love. Players do love it. When you practice in the morning and then they cancel walk through in the afternoon just for anybody, Coach Campbell listening. Yeah. That is a hell of a one. I have two. And I hate to be an attention to horror.

One is one is rookie. antics in the sense that like you get into the dog days of camp and then in the morning you and a veteran kind of hit a rookie with hey i heard in today's movie day i can't i'm just gonna be canceled and then you kind of just plant that seed and then slowly but surely during like while the team meeting is taking place before practice there becomes like a hey do you hear someone will come to you here if you hear we might have a movie day today and just watching that rumor spread knowing good and well that's not going to happen but you kind of just ruin the team's entire practice that is fun yeah and i enjoy kind of like ruining stuff like you're like ruining stuff like you're like you're You ever... That's a fun joke. It's a fun joke. You ever start a fight on purpose, try to get practice canceled? No.

Joint practice, yes. You personally? Joint practice. There's been a couple, you've had a couple pushing shoves and you're just hoping that things get so out of hand that they're like, we're done. We're done.

Guys in the wait room, get a pump. And you're like, yeah, that's really going to hurt my feelings. Great, right now. My other shout out is cloud coverage. Hell yeah. We've had it. Anytime you get outside and it's in the 80s.

It's in the 80s. You're in the high 80s. That's a good one. And then all of a sudden, clouds just start rolling through and you have a nice breeze during practice like that is a godsend. We've had two of those in a row now

and it's been, we're not counting on them. This heat's coming, the humidity's coming but we've had two good ones. The weather, today was nice. Perfect. Kind of spoiled. That first cold water on a hot day. I love how we're just doing

the little luxuries of life. Shoutouts. Yeah, let's keep it going. What's that? The salt. Oh, yeah. I think it's a fun prank that kind of lives. And I'm a nasty boy.

but when you're at a Taylor's we were at breakfast today and Taylor like unscrewed the salt to leave it for whatever the next person was but not for any of the boys like any of the friends it was just for whoever was going to show up next to the next to the next In our chapter? No no That would have been funny too though

Yeah that would have been funny is that seeing you're laughing Well yeah because Hey it's us to Jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news What's the news? Huge news We created our own podcast Oh Hey Jonas we invented a podcast Well we didn't invent it we just contributed to it

First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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to leave some chaos behind you, that's not cool. All right. No, if you're doing it to your buddy, yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how we were explaining it. No, you guys were right. But it reminded me because it's like the same thing you're playing. I almost did it to you at lunch.

With what, though? The ketchup? Could have been that. JP and I were in the corner kind of talking about the salt thing. And everyone was so hungry, I thought it's just going to ruin everything. Shout-on-no-free shout-out.

Go ahead. When you get a small enough injury that you know it's not that bad, but you get to miss a day of practice. Hey, is that not? I've never had one of those, but yeah, I can see that being up here. Quarterback is to wear the jersey.

They get to wear the jersey. I can see that being up your alley, though. Yeah. coach pulling you to the side and being like, we're going to temper a couple of reps for you today. Shout out. You're in the preseason game.

You think you're playing and coach is like, hey, take your pants. Oh, that's the best one. That is the best one. Like a surprise one too. Yes. That's a good one. God.

Dude, shout on if you shout out when you're done playing at a preseason game and the boys have the pads up and you're eating the seeds and you have the best seats in the house to watch football game. But you kind of have to sneak it

because you don't want to disrespect what's happening out there. No, you're just your chat with the boys and you're watching at the bucket hat on the guys come off. For sure.

I'm with you. When that guy comes, you just got to get a little more vertical. You're fine. The home preseason game at one o'clock is a good one. Yes. The home preseason games. We have one of those this year.

I think it's the last one. That's the good one. Hot dogs at halftime. Yeah. I mean, crustables. You're not a hot dog guy? I mean,

I don't want to. You know, I like hot dogs. You don't go to glissies. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Like while the guys are grinding. You go in the equipment. Right.

I'm saying halftime. You go back to the equipment. Yeah. You're hiding. You guys got some hot dogs. Yeah, you're hiding it. And it's gone. Yeah.

Were you doing that? What do you mean? Hang on. Hang on. Time on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

Hang on. I want to know what he means by the question. He could be meaning like, did you get off time during your preseason game? Is that what you meant? You motherfucker did? Oh, no. Yeah.

A couple years there. Why didn't get in some preseason games now? No, I'm kidding. No. Nice job. That's great. I do like the hot dogs. All right.

Yeah. The cooking guys hook you up. It's nice. Yeah. Yeah, man. Hey, why Cal? Well, I grew up in the Bay. Did nobody else offer you?

I only had three offers. Fresno State. It was Cal. It was Fresno State and Boise State at four and Washington State. And both my parents went to Cal. So I grew up a Cal fan. And yeah, it was kind of the only option I had that was good academics, I guess, is the best way to put it. Were you like a small link your kid that just didn't have the size?

Yeah, I was. I was like, shit, I was like 185 pounds. played as a true freshman there and was like so skinny yeah great place berkeley's awesome it is cool never been it's gorgeous out there never been golden bears yeah there you go extinct um acc cal bears they're in the acc now yeah are they really traveling to play miami and north carolina that kind of sucks right that's a lot of flying it's a lot of flying that's a lot of flying tough you guys you guys just get to stick in the big tan and just keep on rolling on all these other guys had to move when you run the country brother you do what you want

speaking up you're in a state that's very divided from a college standpoint who do you side with michigan or michigan michigan yeah no and that was not just because you're sitting here yeah it's just because where i live in nearby here it's a lot of a lot of michigan alum yeah and so i don't i i really don't know many michigan state alum personally there's not a whole bunch of them i want to be honest with you they don't graduate have you uh have you usually drop out you got a relationship with em and him um i've i've met them once here at practice and then saw him at the draft night and that's about it but yeah he's been great to me you're more of a kid rock guy yeah yeah kids great do you don't have to answer that no kids great i don't have i i have a similar

relationship with both of them i've chatted a couple times you have their phone numbers uh no have you listen to new album i'm yeah i think it's good favorite song i like it um i think it's called bad bad one yeah bad one yeah that one yeah that one yeah that's a good one that's a solid one um Real quick, the skit you did with those 70 pro kids. Yeah. We're getting the fingers. Oh, we are? Just say, we can get this one.

We get this one off? Yeah, we get this one off. Yeah, we get this one off. Yeah, we get this one off. How hard was it for you to buy into that and not just tell everybody that they was a professional football player? Yeah, dude, it was crazy. Like, they, the whole week they had set cameras there to try to, like, tell them they

were on, like, some sort of last chance of you, I guess. And so it was, they were fake cameras. So then when I showed up, it wasn't like all of a sudden there was cameras. And, yeah, I get there. And I thought, to be honest, I thought, I thought, thought like it was going to get sniffed out quicker, but I had a bunch of like stuff on my face. And a couple kids did like kind of figure it out pretty quickly, but most of them didn't. And the best was messing around with the quarterbacks because that's kind of like

the comments that I was giving them is comments I've received. Are you the punter? Like are you oh, you know, that's why they brought me here like from like transfers or whatnot. Yeah. And so it was really easy to act out because it was all stuff I've kind of experienced. And it was funny. It was it was good. It was an elite. It was an elite. You did a good job. Thank you. Did it very nice. We appreciate you coming on. I know. Thank you. We're getting the finger. We're getting the finger.

Just what you know you are on the radar to make the team this year. Thank you. Appreciate that. The one at the end of the year. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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