Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Jelly Roll Opens Up About His Health & Pressures Of Success

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Recorded: May 23, 2024 | We had a fan favorite back on the bus again, Jelly Roll. Jelly had been absolutely crushing life and came on to recap some of it with the boys. He had won a bunch of different... awards, appeared on American Idol and The Voice, and even spoke to Congress about the drug problem in America, along with a bunch of other topics. Jelly got into his journey of trying to become a healthier version of himself and all the trials and tribulations that came with it. He also talked about his dreams of giving back to the youth of Nashville as well as playing the last show at Nissan Stadium. The podcast jumped all over the place, but that’s usually what happened when Jelly joined the boys. A bunch of laughs, some serious convos, and just an overall good time. Enjoy fellas!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:40 Jelly Roll is back with the boys per usual. It's a great mix of chaos, laughs, and some real talk. Jelly recaps his wild ride of winning awards, his appearance on American Idol, and the voice. And even his testifying before Congress about the drug crisis in America. We get into his personal journey towards better health, his passion for giving back to Nashville's youth and his dream of playing the final show in Nissan Stadium.
Starting point is 00:02:05 This one's all over the map, but that is in the best way. Tap in, enjoy the ride, big hugs, tiny kisses. Google Jelly Roll right now because I'm off the internet, we'll talk about it. Yeah. Which is just a start. But it's a headline now. If you Google Jelly Roll and hit the news button, it's like Rolling Stone headline,
Starting point is 00:02:24 Jelly Rolls only wears socks once. says big people can't have stinky feet. This is on people. People. Yeah. So it's like, just from you making that comment, it's like,
Starting point is 00:02:35 you're instantly a news field. Hey, Rolling Stones fucking with us. Two times. Grammy nominated a country singer. And I just didn't want to have fucking stinky feet. I hope y'all are rolling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I just didn't want to have stinky feet. But what people are treating it like, oh, you only buys one pair of socks. Like what a privilege thing to say? It was an honest moment for me. It was my answer was they said, what's the last thing you bought on Amazon?
Starting point is 00:02:56 I said, actually, this is also my most frivolous habit I have. I was like, I buy socks. That was my most recent Amazon purchase. I always buy new socks. I was like, I only wear socks once. No, thank you. I'm scared of those, dude. Everybody, I know who does them.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Well, he just did off the bus. You're not afraid of them? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like drug addict behavior, dude. I do two cans a day of this. My brother choose them like you. That is insane to me. He choose them like their fucking bubble gum, dog.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, the boy says if he's not. not eating or sleeping they're in. Yeah. Even when I work out, if I get a workout in, I got two and halfway through the workout, I'll switch them out. I would worry about swallowing one or suck it. Have you ever sucked one in the wind bite? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Oh. No, we had sucked one twice. I'm like, where's he going? I know, right? This has been going. We had Kirk Cousins on and he said that Taylor Honeckee, he loves him. He's addicted to him. He'll get up and take a piss in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And as he goes and takes a piss, we'll throw one in. I haven't got there yet. Kurt, that episode was fine, by the way. Kurt? Yeah, and I got to meet him. He was with, he was our boy Kittle at, of all places, Augusta. Really? And I was at the Masters.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And I'm like, there's no way I'll see anybody I know here for sure. And I look up and of all motherfuckers, it's George Kittling Kurt Cousins. Well, I bet there were so many 50-year-old white people watching you walk by going, let anybody in now. Not anyone else. I'm wearing a denim jacket. Yeah. blue jeans, boots.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I'm out there dressed like I was going to do a concert. Dude, don't they have a dress code there? Yeah, and they said, not for you. I had a trick. So they posted a picture
Starting point is 00:04:34 of Leon Bridges the year before. And Leon Bridges is just standing at Amen Corner in like linen and loafers. And I'm like, if he can wear linen and loafers, I can wear denim and leather. You know what I'm saying? I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:48 you know what I mean? So I just showed up dressed like jelly roll. I like it. And it was awesome. And they had no problem with it at all. Let me tell you what happened. I got to tell this story. I've been wanting to so bad.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I say, can I take the Leon Bridges picture? They're like, of course, we'll take you to A-Men's corner and let you take the picture. And we'll send it to you and we'll post it from the Masters. I'm like, this is crazy. They're going to post me from the Masters. They wouldn't post the pitcher because I have my fucking ball cap on backwards. No shit. Tats everywhere.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And they won't give me the pitcher. They don't trust me with the pitcher. Really? It's the backwards hat? No, it's the backwards hat to what did it, dude. Next thing. headline evil magazine Jellier Will in a lawsuit with Masters over photo
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's crazy dude's got tats on his face and everything It's the backwards hat No we can't say it to you In my fault I respect the game And I should have turned my hat around But I wasn't I wasn't thinking And what's even worse is
Starting point is 00:05:38 As soon as I walked off Some guy said, you should have turned your hat around I was like man they don't give a fuck what I do I kind of joke back kind of like ha ha The dude was like okay And sure enough they never said me that person Just some guy trying to warn you Yeah some guy was trying to give me game
Starting point is 00:05:52 I mean, I thought we were just kind of jazzing each other. Right, right, right. Don't worry, man. They didn't let me smoke weed out here. Dude, the whole, that's like the golf, the uppiness of the golf, that is for me what, what turns me off to the game. When you draw, where you draw the line. That's where I draw the line.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It's like, I don't like dress codes. I don't like the color. You have to wear a color shirt tucked in. Can't wear a backwards hat. That's what I'm like, what are we trying to prove here. Yeah. And that's what kind of turned me off for so long. Now I just.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Especially when you hang out with pro golfers and they're degenerates. Deges. They're like us. Yeah. Like, you know, John Daly's like me and Ernest's dad. He is a lunatic. He is so funny. When you see him go through the timeline, like, it's always something just absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And his son. Have you heard the story of when he, like, started? I'll butcher the story, but he was basically like a ninth reserve guy for this major. I don't know if it was the Masters or what. He ends up getting a call, wakes up hungover, doesn't warm up at all. Get zero warm up time, anything, ends up winning the thing. That's like the legend of John Daly started. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yes. Rocking a bull cut moment. Yeah, I mean, there's probably some major details I'm missing in that. But it was, that's the... You can have them on one day. Yeah, it's the back of the book. Yeah, well, we get, dad will get on here anytime. He's a dad for you.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I swear, dude, dad'll get on here, man. I swear, John will come on here and talk shit, too. He's the dude. Dude, he rolled up, Hardy did a music video. How about this? I'll give y'all my word. I will call John Daly today and tell him he's all... Climp it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah, it's all time. He's like my... I call him dad for real. He's the sweetest dude. He, uh, he's, I mean, he sent me the cool. Christmas gift I even got this year. What was that? It was a painting.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And it was like, I don't know if he knows this or not, but I don't, like most artists, I don't like stuff that says jelly roll. I won't wear a jelly roll shirt. You know what I mean? Or stuff like that or like a pitcher of myself. I won't hang pictures of me. So this painting is like my lyrics encapsulated in different picture style. So it's like the skull, but a different style of the skull that I always rock.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It has all these cool lyrics spray painted in the background and like loud. animations. I'll send y'all a picture it's trippy, dude. It's super cool. That is awesome. Yeah, he's the dude. It's a thoughtful gift.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I got y'all, though, man. I don't know if anybody else gets excited to come back on here as I did. I just looked at y'all. Of course, I'm a little high, but I'm so happy. I know. We hit a little bit with jelly wrap before we came on the bus. So if I just get silent for a long time? Yeah, if I get silent for a long time, just know I'm just sitting in your vibe
Starting point is 00:08:08 and trying to just catch out. I just get excited, man. It just reminds me if we've had a lot of good times and the fact that we've stayed friends and we talk, but the cool thing I love about coming back here is that we don't never get to talk like this. Like, this is like ours. Like, we'll catch up. They just checking in or shoot the voice memos or the videos or the text.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But this is cool, man. I've cried on this bus. I've been hung over on this bus. I've been hung over on this bus. I've had some really wild, me and my wife have went viral on this bus. It's been-trying over emotion and funny shit. Yeah. Dude, it is crazy to see like your last year.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And we were just talking about right when you got on about people talking about you only wear socks once. A couple years ago, no one gave a shit about how many socks you were wearing. Right. Yeah, for sure. And it's got to be like the most insane.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It'd be like us trying to clip that story and not, you know, you might get tracks. You might not. You probably will just because of social media of jelly roll. But you're not thinking it's going to be some negative headline. No, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It's got to be like an insane thing. Like you, I mean, you do really well of like sitting back and being appreciative of all this stuff. But bro, it's got insane. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's cool, though. It's like, I disconnected from it as soon as it started happening. I was like, I know how to deal with this. I immediately got off social media. I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:17 but now I consume life in an even wilder way through news, but not like old news. Like you know how you can get Google alerts for certain names. Like I put my name, my wife's name, the Tennessee Titans,
Starting point is 00:09:28 bus and anybody, any of our friends, like the homies. Yeah. So like when like Bert's on Jim, Jimmy Kimmel, somebody, I see it.
Starting point is 00:09:36 You know what I mean? It pops up, Burke Kreis or Jimmy Kim. I'm like, I should go check this out. Which is a wild way to consume life too. You know what I mean? But it's way easier.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's basically what you've transitioned to since you get away from social media. For sure. And I don't spend no time scrolling or doing it. Yeah. And here's the coolest part, y'all. I'm creating more content right now than I've ever created. I'm fixing to flood content like I was an independent artist when y'all met me. How I was uploading 50 times a year on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm fixing to y'all watch. Why is that? Because now I'm not doing this for eight hours a day. Yeah, you're just taking the next day. Every time I have an extra second, I'm actually thinking about. about stuff now. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Like I'm actually present when a camera's on me. You know what I mean? I'm not looking for a moment to go check and. I spent more time looking what was happening on social media than using it as a tool to promote what I was trying to do. Right. How free has that been that process of change? It's been great, man.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. It has been like I've never been more aware of where I'm at. I've never been more present. Everywhere I'm at is, that's where I am. And that hasn't been the case for a long time. I've been in really cool moments. dude, it was like, I think it was the ACMs last year.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I'm sitting behind Jason Al-Dine. It's the first time I realized I had a real problem. I was at the ACMs and it's just like a habit. We just pull my phone out and just kept getting lost in my phone. I'm at an award show sitting next to A-list celebrities. What the fuck is happening on TikTok that's going to be so cool to me? You're at the thing TikTok wants to know about. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's like, the TikToks are coming from here. Yeah. I'm just watching this shit. I just watch. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, yeah, this is right then, I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:14 this is getting sick? When you did the transition, was there like a piece of withdrawal at first when you weren't scrolling? You kind of felt what you were talking about, I'm a little fucking bored right now. For sure. Well, you still,
Starting point is 00:11:23 you still, I still reach from my pocket a bunch. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, it's not even, I don't even carry, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:29 I don't even carry the phone. So it's just, I live in a whole different place, though. I'm in a great place. Do you feel like there's like, because you were talking about we started with talking about that socks headline,
Starting point is 00:11:37 like how massive like in where there can be in a negative blood or whatever do you feel like there's more expectation on you now when you are creating when you are getting in these environments it's a great question well because i would assume you have to kind of battle with that especially like you try to be real conscious of it yeah but there's got to be times like you're you've been just doing this like you say we swap stories and keep up with each other because everybody's busy but you've just been doing this so when you're trying to it's like stay intentional that you find out difficult at times you're or do you feel like there's that expectation? I think, man, I'm always vulnerable in here. I wouldn't say this in many places. Where I feel that the most will is in the studio. I'm in a weird place where I've released 300 songs in my career. I've had success. I'm close to celebrating my fourth number one on country radio,
Starting point is 00:12:25 my fifth number one on radio. I've had international songs. I mean, I've checked all the boxes of things that I never thought I would do. Grammy nominations awards. But I'm technically in the world's eyes working on my sophomore out. album. And there's this age old cliche called the sophomore slump. Yeah, happens in sports too. You know what I mean? So it's like I'm feeling it when I'm writing songs. Like I want to send y'all
Starting point is 00:12:49 some stuff to listen to. Like I'm fixing to get to the point where I'm fixing to just start leaning on my friends and relying on honesty. Because when you write a hundred and something songs for an album, because you're that into it, they start all sounding the same. You don't know which one's the better one of the two that sound alike. And now you're in this place where you've got a hundred songs. I could have the best song in my career. I don't even really know it right now because they're all just like a big puddle of just noise to me almost So it's a scary place to be
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'm petrified In the world of like writing songs and stuff I mean that like I'm genuinely petrified Yeah I mean it's it's a scary place to be Because you've had all the success And there's always something in the back of your head When you are having a lot of success of like When's it gonna end?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like when's the fall? When is that fear creeps up in the back Like damn is it really over socks? Yeah Yeah yeah yeah Because we know like I mean how many people do we know like lasted generation after generation
Starting point is 00:13:40 like five people in the music industry and so you have to like there's always a piece of you that's like when's it when's my time up when's my time coming and then once your time comes you're like when is my time up right and so it's a very legitimate fear to have like when you're writing this music obviously like earnest is a dude that always like he's like with you you roll a party a lot morgan those types of dudes like how much are you leaning on them to be able to zoom out a little bit because we even with busting like we get in the situations where we're so zoomed into what we're trying to do that we're kind of missing the
Starting point is 00:14:10 the right thing to do at the time right you know like that intro yeah that's exactly what I was thinking about it when I said that you were like yeah I'm where we it's the only time I've ever seen y'all just miss dude and that is that was on me as well we said we let's say right outside the bus
Starting point is 00:14:27 and it was like what was it January or right right before January it was like hey I think you know Quaker City Nighthawks tip of the cap back to the like our original original intro this that like he's like going through and he's like this seems like a really good idea and i at the time like it's all willisphiles like yeah that sounds dope that sounds cool i mean it took you to get your mind around it took me a minute like i've done it a couple times but it just we've never actually done it or pursued somebody writing us something um and there's a style like have you ever
Starting point is 00:14:55 seen club shay she she he's kind of got like a cliffhanger at the beginning and this undertone of nipsy and then it goes into the nipsy hustle song and i always think it's like they have that one that grabs you in the first 10, 15 seconds of a clip. So I was trying to think, like, the song that we have with Earntro, you don't necessarily have like an underlying tone where you can do that. So it's like, how can we find a song? And it's like, I've always been obsessed with this. What was it?
Starting point is 00:15:18 Some of Adams Blues by Quicker City Nighthast. And I was like, man, this could sound dope. We tried it. You know, we're back. I'll tell you this. I'll give you some game. You ready for it? And this is something, just something else old head topped me.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I would be painted cars for a living, right? And he said, you're always one. stroke away from either polishing it to a pearl or polishing the paint off. Just one wipe away. It's that close. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sometimes you just got to go, man, that motherfucker's a pearl right now.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I better not touch it. You know what I'm saying? Don't fuck this up. And as good friends, if we talk about being, why can't what? You should have just shot a message too that even, I mean, we were getting doubled. I feel like y'all, y'all couldn't have missed it. The comments were berating, y'all. Listen, y'all were putting out the best content ever,
Starting point is 00:16:04 and all you could see in the comments was bring back. Back the urchro. You know, Urchos at his house sitting there petting his dog on hell yes. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:16:11 yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's got all those comments were just earnest. Hey, it's us to Jonas
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Starting point is 00:19:16 who are we talking to? Like, are you, like, giving it to them being like, please tell me where I'm fucking up. Ernest. Yeah, I brought Ernest, well, what happened? Whenever, the final phase of writing, Ernest is always the do. The Comin the Dominator.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He's the guy. He's got to call the Ernomit, the Dodinator. What did you say? I don't know. I thought I said, the nominator. Are you how I will? We're on the magic school bus and speech.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We're really all right now. No, dude, I'll just shoot it to earn and ask and I'll shoot them. And I'll shoot snippets to friends. I'll shoot y'all. I mean, just kind of hit people that are honest. My wife's, man, I'm scared to play her songs. If you ask her, I've had two hits ever. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's crazy. How many hits out there that never made it to the, never made it out there because This bunny was like, this is garbage. How excited for the beer limbers, y'all? Fired up. Depends. What do we depend on us? I heard a rumor.
Starting point is 00:20:15 There's some scuttle butt. I heard a rumor that logistically, Jellarol might not be able to make it. We're doing it for sure. I've already figured that out. I'm doing Kimmel the same day, so I'm flying right there. We're just doing an A and a B rig. There we have it.
Starting point is 00:20:26 This is it. When I told y'all, it was done, it was done. I know, but I did. You know how it is when management gets involved, and then there's a third party. Well, we can tell people now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're doing beer Olympics at Red Rock in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Beer game championships of the world. Oh, I didn't know we hit it and all the way went. No, I don't think we've hinted. No, this is great for you to be on the way, announce it. And there's been a lot of people coming and going, dude, we started in February, locking cats in. Yeah, man. Put it on your calendar.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And we've had people drop out. It's been a bummer. So I get a call last week, and I'm talking back and forth. And somebody at Red Rock is like, yeah, jelly's on the 50 yard line right now and i was like whoa because if we talked a little bit ago you say you we've had the conversation so i'm like oh this is for sure happening they say logistically he's just seen if you can make it happen but and then you just you just assume red rock management they start talking and every few days every few days taylor's usually hit me with like hey are you
Starting point is 00:21:23 see did i have some some more bad news it's just like i just put the bull in our head and he's like jelly roll and i was just like no no no we're figure it out we got we're doing um We're doing Kimmel that day, I think, is what it's happening. And we're just figuring out a way to knock out two birds. Bing, bang. Because it is going to be. It's a 40-minute flight. It's going to be incredible.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Like the event, all the stuff we got going into it, the shade cover, the sponsors, the graphics. I tell you what's probably happening is on our end, inside baseball, and this is how we talk on the phone. Y'all get to see how we talk to each other. If I had to guess, they just haven't got back for them, they're just not getting back to them quick enough. Like Red Rocks probably wants it in a certain timeline and the way my people are probably, probably looking at it sadly we have so much shit coming up or probably like yo chill we'll be for sure you know what I mean like relax like dude's coming you know what I mean that's fantastic that's what my guess is right now is that they're more just worried that you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:22:17 and your team stick into a script too it's like if they're saying this it's not fitting our script like maybe you listen to conversation as soon as I hit y'all and said what way do y'all want to do it and y'all told me I hit them right then I was like that's how we're doing it we did have a lengthy conversation so for everybody who doesn't know the text message group chat you pit us up and you're like you want to do a 300 person like private show or do you want to do like an actual public show will was thinking private i was thinking public and the reason why i was thinking public is dude beer olympics i mean you saw us last year no one's going to be hearing your music we're all going to black out anyway for sure so to have other people go and enjoy it i was thinking
Starting point is 00:22:51 it's a nice gesture would be amazing but at the same time like i'm not going to remember shit i'm going to be like hey how did jellie do last night that was they did awesome yeah we said it to the boys and it was a unanimous public unanimous public so that being said ladies gentlemen, June 25th, Tuesday at Red Rock one night only, the king himself, Jellier will be playing a concert. Let's fucking give a round of applause for that, boys. That's great time.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But just to prepare everybody, all of the beer games content that will be shot that day won't be coming out until, I think, in August. There's going to get a lot of editing done and everything else. Yeah. Really pouring into it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's crazy how much that's blown up, but not near as much as what we want to talk about you, bro. No. You have been doing. Every time, I feel like you're never home. No, I was gone 300 days last year. Really? That's real.
Starting point is 00:23:37 God. That is nuts, man. It looks like I'll be in the 250s, 260s. Like, what's happened in the last year? Just chasing the record. I dropped the album. Right, right. But I'm saying like, what are the cool new things that you've been doing in the last year?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Because Jack's like, hey, what do we want to talk to Jelly about? I'm like, man, I don't know if I've been able to just, I see. It's like you come across my screen. You're giving some fucking Southern Baptist Church speech every time I bring up X. It's amazing. talking about drugs. Yes. You're on American Idol.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You're on The Voice. You're on every today show ever, tonight's show ever. Shit, I'm surprised you haven't hosted SNL yet. Yes, God, man. You need to host SNL. That would be nasty. I'll tell you what, I'm free this fall. I'm going to be so sick.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But you've really been fucking doing it all. It's been really cool. You're saying that, I'm learning, you know, about all the different things he's been on. It's like hard to. This man was in front of people who, make loss saying I am an ex drug dealer telling you this is a problem and it's 10 minutes long yeah and he is articulate saying his thing and he did it was incredible how much did you prepare for that I really did you really did I'm not going to lie to say that shot from the hip I'll tell you the
Starting point is 00:24:51 coolest part of that story is that my sister went to college she's the smartest one in our family by country mile but we've never found a point of connection to be able to work together on anything and I called her and said I got a job for us said what? I said, I'm pretty well spoken. You're well smart. Why don't you get me some logistics and some, some, some peer reviewed facts here? And then we'll build a case and I got to put together a speech to present the Congress. Me and her sat down and cooked that up together. That is awesome. I was like, I'll figure out the analogy. You just give me the statistics.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And then I'll write it up. And man, I was in my, my wife thought it was she picked on me a little bit about it in a sweet way how she does. She said, you were so cute. I was up with my sheets of paper reading them. Like I was reading a script, you know, practice. sing the night before the next row. Because dude, this was serious. I was going in front of the United States Congress. Absolutely. I took it serious.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You know what I'm saying? And everyone's going to see it. It's not just some no disrespect. Some random person walking up and saying, hey, we got to change this law. Like you're a super influential person. For sure.
Starting point is 00:25:47 How much prep, like when that phone call happened to your sister, how far was the Congress meeting away? Three weeks. We took about three weeks to really start coming together. I feel like that's even a short amount of time. How nervous were you? Extremely.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yes. You very. More nervous than up. Look, man. First of all, it was in a fucking courthouse. They'll say it's not a courthouse, but I've been to a courthouse.
Starting point is 00:26:07 This is a courthouse. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? And then it's a courtroom. They said it's not a courtroom, but it's a courtroom. I've been to a courtroom. It's set just like a courtroom.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And I didn't think about this until I was sitting there. But it's already designed for you to feel less. Right? And I'm sure it's designed that way on purpose because all the congressmen are sitting up and looking down at you. So like you're peering up. up.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And there's just, I didn't think about it, but psychologically, you're incially, I'm not looking at you eye to eye. Right. There's a separation between me and you. You know what I mean? There's a clear thing that you're here and I'm here. And that made me more nervous than I anticipated because that felt like a judge. Judges sit up too.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know what I'm saying? I was like, man, I'm in court right now. Like so, but it was, and I hoped that they were going to go the other way. Because I look at the guy of the left of me from the FOP, great guy, fraternal order police. I go, pardon me, sir, have you done this before? He's like, oh, yeah, all the time. the next guy next to him was a DA, federal DA.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I said, you do this, he's like all the time. Yeah, we come speak here, you know, probably, probably once every other week. Yeah. And I was like, oh, great, well, one of these guys go first, and I kind of know what I'm doing here. You know what I'm saying? I'll get to see a rat. I don't know what I'm doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:18 You know what I mean? And, of course, I'm in the headspace that I'm constantly in. Right? Yeah. So I'm in there, and I'm like, maybe one of these guys. The magic school bus. Right. I'm like, maybe one of these guys will show me the fucking way.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You know what I mean? Now they were like, all right, Mr. D. Ford, I'm sure you've never done this. I was like, never, never thought I'd do it. All right. Go ahead first. Sacrificial land. Get out there. There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Jesus Christ. The reaction of that speech was also like a very viral thing. How coming out of that, did you, you probably didn't expect that or anticipate that, nor care about it. But seeing that it blew up the way it did, I bet that, that had to feel good, knowing that you are pushing to make a wave like that. It did. It felt really, it felt, um,
Starting point is 00:28:02 I had a moment where I was sitting there and I looked down at that camera and I seen the screen and I seen myself and I was like, oh, this picture is going to be everywhere the rest of my life. Like I'm on C-SPAN right now. Yeah. I didn't know I was going into it to be on C-SPAN. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm on public television. Yeah. Free free, free television right now.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. Everybody can get this. Everybody that anywhere. They can watch me. I'm getting watched in prison right now. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I am on C-SPAN.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I think also. it goes to how the award speeches work for me. There's a true moment where this is just all unreal to me. And I take every one of those moments extremely serious. Like, not serious an aspect, like I don't prep for award speeches, but like I take it serious. When I'm walking up there, I'm praying right then, quietly. God, this is the last time that I ever win one of these
Starting point is 00:28:58 and I get to address millions of people watching me. I'm in front of my peers. I am elated to be here, by the way. It's insane to me that artists win awards, and they walk up there like, fuck, I hate I had to come out tonight. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like, they walk up there like my feet hurt. You know what I mean? It's like, I hadn't touched the ground tonight, dude. I'm 450 pounds, and I'm fucking float. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't, you know, it's, and I just want to take those moments serious.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And the Congress one was even more serious because there was a side of me, and I hope I don't get a trouble for this. that was walked in there a little pissed off, just a little bit. You know what I mean? Just a little chip on my shoulder because I walked up there thinking,
Starting point is 00:29:39 there's no way that 200 Americans are dying a day and that I am the guy that has to come in here and bring attention to it. Like this is a little absurd that it took me. You know what I mean? Of all people. Like, it should have never got to this point. So I found myself feeling that emotion too in the moment.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And I don't know if you could see it in me, but there was a hint of like, you don't see me that serious that often. Yeah. You know, I'm not a serious song, right? I'm not a serious guy. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Don't take anything I say very serious. But I was fucking, see, this is me walking in the court. You can see it on my face. That initial clip when I first walked in, they had media out there trying to talk to me. And I was, first time ever, I was kind of rude to media. You see I'm not even looking at the camera? You see more stern there than ever.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Yeah. And I wasn't trying to be mean. I was just like, hey, man, I'm nervous. And I'm going to go in here and make a fucking point. At what point when you were having those feelings and you sat down where you're This is crazy that we're watching this with y'all, dog. I would have never dreamed this when I came on y'all's bus the first time. If I'm just like selling two or three thousand tickets for me, I had made it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 When I got on this bus the first time, I was like, big as I'll ever be in happy about it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're talking about your catalog and I'll probably just sell that for $30 million. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. That is just, yeah, and it's crazy, bro. And it's crazy how we met.
Starting point is 00:30:52 This is so perspective, just sitting in here like this. Thank y'all. Dude, having a shop. Yeah, it's the reason why. Yeah, because I brought Shob here. The first two podcasts I ever did. The first two podcasts I ever did was Shob and y'all. And now you've hit Rogan, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, baby. The Joe Rogan effect, baby. I changed the name. It's not the experience anymore. It's the Joe Rogan effect. How fast was that? We talked about the last time you're on. It's immediate.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Really? It's immediate. Yeah, it's unreal. You've been seeing the Terrence Howard? Oh, man, listen. I'll listen to the first 30 minutes of it in the sauna this morning. that shit not insane. It starts.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Like, so how did you get into acting? And I don't know Joe knew that was the trigger phrase. No fucking down. Like Joe knew the one sentence to unlock. I wonder if Joe would have said, so how's your morning? If it would have unlocked that same thing. But he's like, let me tell you before I was born. Dude, that was right beneath the surface.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And the low key, when he's talking, when he starts saying like one times one is two, he's like because you have multiplication is a multiple. and if you put anything in front of another one it has to get bigger. Yeah. I'm thinking, kind of makes sense. I felt like,
Starting point is 00:32:04 like I put my calculator. Yeah, he's talking about Neil deGrasse Tyson, right? That's the, the scientist. Yeah. He's like telling how Neil's coming at him and all this,
Starting point is 00:32:15 but he's talking about Adam separating and there's four edges, but when you put eight bubbles together, I'm just like, you know the crazy? He's kind of a genius. And maybe he's a psychopath. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I haven't picked a side yet. It all came from the dude that played a pimp and hustle and flow. Yeah. That's the problem. part I can't get over. I watch this dude play a Memphis Pimp in my favorite movie.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's the only movie I've ever known to be in my life. And he's also the smartest man you've ever met in your entire life now. Yeah, it's insane. He's fucking Tyson-Neil de Grassee. The one that made the biggest impact on me was when he was the divorce father in Big Mama's house.
Starting point is 00:32:45 That's like what I think is. I think of like an intimidating cat. Yeah. Like with Terrence Howard. And then also in the fighting movie with Channing Tatum, right? You know, the sad part is... I don't remember this in either one of these films.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I just remember hustle and floats. The only film I just remember. I've ever remembered him being in. Big Mama's house. He was like the scary dude, that you were trying to protect. It's called fighting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't think I've even seen this movie. I'm getting crucified online right now. People watching this are like, you're telling me you only knew one Terrence Howard movie. Honestly, I was kind of with you. I don't know what this is. I know Big Mama's house.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You should have picked up that. You should have picked up Big Mama's house. I just can't look at him and think of him doing anything but going in my eyes out of seeing some crazy things in the streets. Got a couple girls working on a track. just for me. I don't know. Oh, he's in Iron Man?
Starting point is 00:33:33 He was in Crash? Yo. And the thing is, what you find yourself enjoying about that conversation is, right, wrong, whatever. Everybody's going to argue, pick it apart, whatever it is. But his enthusiasm and talking about it, you just know that this dude obsesses over this stuff. For sure. So it's like, it like pulls you in when he's talking about being naked in his dreams and accessing the future like he's Lou and Hot Tub Time Machine where he can like,
Starting point is 00:33:58 That's why he's got 97 patents. You just said they're like, yo, what is this guy talking? This is my 97 patents. Can we look up his patent? Does anybody look this up yet? Then he had a gym bag. He hands Joe a couple. And I'm just so curious what's going on in Joe's mind, like as he's holding him.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because Joe doesn't like say a word for those first 30 minutes. First 30 minutes. Yeah. And he just at one point of those, can I just stop you there for a second? Yeah. He's saying, can we go back a couple octanes here? No fucking doubt. Stop you.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's nuts, man. I'm only 30 minutes in it. It was all Terrence. And it was incredible. But I'm sitting in the sauna this morning. Yeah, we saw yourself. You got the cold tub. You got the sauna going on?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Dude, listen, man. Gary Breka in your life? Gary Breka is like, help me. I dropped those first like 60-some pounds effortless with him. We just did our blood work, our first 90-day blood work cycle together to see the difference is insulin down. Hemoglobin's great. Liver's doing great.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Kidney's doing great. Heart strong. Obviously, being a big guy, had a spike. protein marker in my heart. It just a little bit showed a lot of inflammation. Big cars, big engine kind of thing, but still not right. I mean, it's the effects of obesity, right? That went down dramatically, points, a whole point or something, point and a half,
Starting point is 00:35:11 two points in 90 days. Like, I've been a pre-diabetic, as you could imagine, like at a 6.2 forever, as long as I remember, like, how I'm not a full-blown diabetic, mind blowing a little bit. Yeah. Right? You know what I'm saying? So, and it went from 6-2 to like 5. nine and three months.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And that just seems like three points, but that's a, that's a consistent 90 day blood marker. Right. It's not like your instant, you know, the prick of what's in your bloodstream. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:39 that's a 90 day. I've only had 90 days. Right. What is it? A1C. You see what I'm saying like this? I should have just brought my blood work we could have nerded out about.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'm so proud of it. What is that? I'm carrying my blood work around like when I was in jail and I carried my paperwork around to prove I didn't snitch. Like, see, I didn't snitch, read it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 would never tell. Dude, what is, you said 5.8, 6.2? Like, what is, what's the number that you're a diabetic? 6.3. Oh, shit. You were right there. Yeah, it's called being a pre-diabetic.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I've been in a 6-2 for like a decade. Right. So I'm type 1 diabetic. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you get the other one. So your A1C, like I check my blood sugar. You probably see me do it before.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. That's an immediate result. And you know exactly in real time what your blood sugar is. Your A1C is essentially like what Jell is essentially like a 90-day average of where you're at. It doesn't, correlate to the number you'd see on a glucometer. But the A1C is crucial because, like, mine, being type 1 diabetic, it's good if I'm, like, 7.2.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And 6.2 for someone who's not, is, like, considered you're on the verge of it. But you want to be between 5 and 7 being, like, the, like, max. They want you in between, like, 6 and 7 in, like, the decimal point system. But, yeah, the A1C is just, like, your average glucose over the last 90 days. It gives you a good measurement for long-term effects. Dr. McPherson, man. I should have brought the paperwork, dude. We've had a really cool, like, it's been cool.
Starting point is 00:37:06 How did you get put on with Gary? I just won, same way I did y'all, same way I get put on with everybody. And I learned this from Rogan being a Joe Rogan fan. When Joe Rogan was like, man, I just get into the stuff I'm a fan of. It's like, that's what I do. I just get into the stuff I'm a fan of. So, like, as soon as I started seeing the Dana White, Trent change,
Starting point is 00:37:23 because it was, like, clear to me. We watched Dana White fight in. ears before like you know being a fan of his over the years i've seen him go through some shit and i've seen them look really bad like scarily like big and red face puffy yeah just like scarily bad and i mean y'all you hang out with him more than i do man that dude looks incredible bro he looks young he's sharp he hears great remember i used to not hear nothing no no he still can't hear yeah he still there's it seems like that left ear is bad he's always got that little turn up what you say yeah but dude yeah but he just seems really you know just and i started watching his transition
Starting point is 00:37:57 so I was like, man, I should maybe reach out to this guy. Maybe I got some blood work that's off. Maybe he can see something. So I just cold hit him. And lucky for me, his wife, Sage, love you, Sage. Sage is the best. Sage is a country music fan, so she knew who I was. They just loved her and her daughter.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Her daughter's Bailey's age, so they love Morgan. They just love the whole community of country music. So they were familiar enough with me to be like, yo, we want to get you on a thing with him. So Gary immediately got involved and changed everything. and I bought right into it too. It didn't take me no time at all. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?
Starting point is 00:38:32 We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments, that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls,
Starting point is 00:40:02 we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slices Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds,
Starting point is 00:40:56 just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. That's what I'm curious about, because, I mean, I've been around you,
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like we've known each other for what, four years? Five years? Five years? Yeah, something like that. And I feel like you, there's been like moments and phases to where you're in the middle of doing something. Right. He's showing up with a gallon of water that has lemon, lemon juice in it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Right. Because I'm doing it, boys. Right. Hell yeah. And being super intentional with this one this time. What feels different about it? I think it was really like realizing that I just want to feel good. Like, I thought.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I said this whenever we did our 5K, and I meant this, I thought that every problem I had in life would be solved if I ever found any kind of success and stability. And then I started getting success and stability, and none of those problems were solved. And I know that's the old cliche thing. And trust me, when I was broke and I heard wealthy people say this, I would get sick.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'd be like, if you don't love your money, give it to me, you fucking fat asshole. Right. I'll be happy with it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, but that's not like, trust me, I enjoy the things that money can do. But it was that.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I'll let y'all know if we can keep this part in because if we can, this will be the biggest clip of this show. My wife and I are talking about having a baby. And it really made me realize at almost 40, I was like, that means I got to live at least 60. I got to see this kid into college. And my plan was never to be 60. It was to be like 55.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I think Garcia died at 56. So since I was young, I was like 56 to be. great for me. You know what I'm saying? Like it's when Garcia win. I'm in. You know what it sounds better than 27? That's when all the other stars died. It's 27 or 56 in Celebrity Worlds. Let me be 56. Yeah. But now I'm like, well, I'd like
Starting point is 00:43:04 to see my 60s. You know what I mean? And that really lit it up. And being able to see blood work got kind of nerdy. Do you have a constant? Do you have a Libre on you? No. Have you ever worn one? Yeah. So we're like, it's got a Dexcomg. And it's just like, they're trying to find a continuous loop, which is like a device.
Starting point is 00:43:22 you wear that registered your blood sugar and then gives you the appropriate insulin that is essentially the cure they're looking for but they I have a thing I can wear on me that constantly monitors it but I'm not wearing it right now I know it sounds crazy but I just started nerding out about it Taylor I got this thing
Starting point is 00:43:38 he knows what I'm talking about it's called a Libra and it just it'll show my constant blood sugar in real time right so then I started getting nerdy and being like I would eat certain things to watch the effects of it yeah and it's little shit like that has just changed my whole life now I just want to eat better because I feel better.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Like I know that sounds so corny. Who would have thought being fucking fat my whole life that all I would feel better if I just ate better? Yeah, but it's not the craziest concept. It's insane. Because it's like when I was 310 pounds or when anybody is overweight or anything or eats like shit and has a good body, it becomes your norm. So you just think this is how normal feels all the time. And you really don't start realizing until you start peeling back layers, doing the blood work and eating a little bit healthy and getting that one, two, three weeks of eating healthy. where you're like I can notice an obvious difference in my mood, my cognitive function.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I can even start to see it a little bit. Hey, that wasn't there before. That's kind of nice to have that there. Like you start to see those things. Now you start to realize what you were dealing with wasn't normal. The normal is over here. You just have to get to that point. And so I think it is one of those things that people don't think about a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:44:41 There's like, all, I always feel X, Y, and Z. Not realizing it's not, it doesn't have to be like that. Yeah. But getting obsessive with the measuring, the data and everything else, I feel you on that. because then it's like your competitive nature, it becomes like a little game. You start, it starts to,
Starting point is 00:44:55 and dude, I'm falling in love with the clarity I'm getting. Like a clarity I've never had. Like, man, I get out of that. I wake up every morning to do anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes in a sauna. And then I immediately do six minutes in the cold water.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And then I go for my walk or go for my swim. It's the first thing I do every morning. And I'm thinking so clear in that sauna, man, I've only been up six, seven minutes. And I'm just already just cooking. It's just, man, I've just never felt more focused and dialed in.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I get to bring the sauna and the cold plunge on the road now. No shit. No shit. Yeah, because you know how Dana is? I told Dan, I was like, hey, how do you carry your mobile sauna? Well, he just sends me one already in a case. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:35 That's what's what I'm saying? It's just like, yo, no problem. We'll send it straight over. Yeah. And literally, I got one in storage now. It just follows me. It's great. For real.
Starting point is 00:45:45 That is awesome. What's a, like. And Gary Brecker's the guy, have y'all been with him yet? Y'all should fuck with him just, y'all should have them on. Yeah, we would love to have him on. Yeah, absolutely. We went back and forth in... I think we've been out to him for a few months now.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah, like January, when we were kind of talking back and forth, and then he went on Rogan, and then he went on Nelk Boys, and then he went on all these other shows. And so his people kind of reached out, we're like, well, what are your guys' numbers? What's going on here? And I think that's when... That's what kind of when the red tape hits. Because I've been around Gary on three separate occasions now, every single time I've enjoyed him.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Every single time he's just a wealth of knowledge, great personality. Like, he's just, and he seems like intentionally speaks to you. Like he's not trying to think about the next thing he has to do. He's right there with you. So I really enjoy him. One person he's had on his show, his podcast, Superhuman podcast or whatever, is Gabriel Lyon, who Will and I work with.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And she's in the same world. She does very similar blood test. You know, you get on Zoom with her and all that stuff. And it is fascinating stuff. Right. To kind of feel like find that little edge of where you can kind of get better. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You know, what your body can process, what it can't process. And because when we get older, I mean, dude, I'm 32. and I'm like, you know, I got a shoulder, the knee, that my fingers are facing different directions. And you just kind of worry, like, now that that part of my life is over, I want to make sure that cognitively I can handle stuff and I can, you know, be old enough.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And I don't like, I can run around my kids when they're older and all that stuff. You really start to think about future stuff than you do right now. Yeah. It's tough. Was that something you thought about when you got the weight off? Like, have you already talked about this a bunch on this podcast? I don't want to make you talk about something.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I haven't really talked about it. We just kind of mentioned, Hey, Taylor lost a lot of weight and I say, yeah. Like, we haven't talked about that, but, like, I noticed, like, back pain or sleeping on my side, my shoulder would hurt in the morning,
Starting point is 00:47:32 and now that my shoulder doesn't really hurt the morning, my back doesn't really hurt anymore. Like, there's things that I just thought were normal because, oh, I'm playing football, I'm lifting weights. You play through everything. You play through everything. You start to get, you start to lose one.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You're like, oh, damn, like, this already feels so much better to me. Right. that I'm like 260, 255. Yeah. And it is, it's a, it's a noticeable difference. Was it intentional, though? To lose that weight.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah. When I knew that the writing was on the wall and I was going to get cut and, you know, the knee thing happened and all that, I was like, let me, you know, I'm just probably not going to eat for a little bit. Get shredded. Yeah. I'm lucky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah. Yeah. I got a turnover. I was like, I have a lucky body type where when I was at my playing weight, it was, you know, three shakes a day, there were 1,200 calories, three meals, and I'm losing five pounds at night. Like I always had to be a guy that had to gain weight. So when I kind of just ate normal for a little bit, it just flew off.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. I lost like 30, 40 pounds in a hurry. To the point, we'll say, hey, you're starting a little sickly. Yours light as me right now. Yeah, yeah. It was, you know, you kind of just live. And I've never lived like that before in sports where you live and you're just eating when you're hungry. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You're not like shoving a meal. Like, when in high school we joked about this, I would look at at three in the morning, just have a protein shake. and I go back to sleep, not realizing that's actually horrible for you to do. But you would do shit like that. But when you're like trying to put on the weight, get their scholarships.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. You're trying to get them scholars. But you can obviously see your body's already changing. What's your, now that you see that this is achievable, what is the goal for you? I'm doing the little goals. So the 5K by May was my first one.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And I needed that because between us, I came out of the gun hard for about 90 days. Yeah. And about 25 days before the 5K started. I just fell off the rails. Really? Yeah, just gave up all that work, ate like shit a little bit on and off, had a couple of big drinking vendors, just kind of went back to old habits.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You think, oh, it's only a few hours that I'm doing today. No, that won't even be thought about tomorrow. I just left, I don't have no excuses. The schedule swallowed me, and I'd learn from it. I won't do it again. But I woke up the day of the 5K, like, I'm not as prepared for this as I was three weeks ago. It sucks. And I still, it's a tough feeling.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And you show up and you still do it. Because you know I could, because I got in better shape, and I did lose a lot of weight, and I was feeling better. but I had a moment then where it kind of refired me up and I was like, all right, now I want to do another 5K, I want to do it around Thanksgiving and I want to do it at a constant jog. This right here was at a brisk power walk.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I'm not embarrassed of my mile minute. It was like 18, 19 minute miles. Yeah. Which for me, when a guy that started at 500-something pounds and couldn't walk a mile, felt great about that time. Yeah. Now I'd like to get it down to like 16, 15,
Starting point is 00:50:14 a little jog, a really kind of slow, steady jog, and then go to the 5K, the two bears 5K next year and put up a real fucking time. Yeah. Do it twice like Bert did. No shit. Burt did it the first time and then went back and did it with me. Really?
Starting point is 00:50:29 And if this goes the way I wanted to, I am dragging Bert Kreisher to do a half marathon next fall. Damn. That's my plan. Okay, I like that goal. Yeah, these are my plans. And I love saying it here because I said I was going to do the 5K on NELC and fucking went and did it and lost a lot of weight.
Starting point is 00:50:43 So y'all hold me too. this just like y'all held me to do it and i had to show up in may and fucking sweat my balls off in pasadena yeah and it kind of i feel like too probably remotivate you because you're getting around all your boys and everybody who was kind of either preparing for it or they're in the middle of doing something for themselves you're just kind of like bert doing it twice like man i got to fucking get back on the woods it made me feel great and it was cool to see other how many other big guys did it because of bird or because of me foley was there from you know what i'm talking about are you garbage podcast he was
Starting point is 00:51:14 locked it with us. He's a very robust man. You know what I was saying? You know, it's like, he encouraged, he inspired me, because I kept looking at him like, we're about equally yoked here. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, about equally yoked here? It's like, this is fair. Yeah. My holy goal was like not to let him
Starting point is 00:51:32 smoke me quietly. Right. And I bet he quietly had the same goal. He was like, if this mother's funny, if this dude starts jogging right now, I'm going to die. Yeah. Because I'm going. I'll faint. You know what I'm saying? Before I let, Foley beat me. I'm sure he looked at me.
Starting point is 00:51:47 That's how fat people size each other. I'm sure he looked at me and I was like, Foley, let's stick together so we can control our own pace. I kind of started him. I roped him in immediately. I was like, come on, be my guy. Imagine if you just took off at the start.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah. You just started ripping it. Like, God, damn. Fuck, I got a ways to go. Yeah. That's awesome. That is cool. You're knocking those things off.
Starting point is 00:52:10 No problem. Yeah, feel good, man. And I do feel good. My testosterone's going up. My labs, as you could expect, were bad. You know what I mean? They just wasn't good. It's all, every level that could be off in an obese man, as you could expect.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And balancing some of that stuff else just helped so much. Were they, they're obviously expected to be bad? Were they as bad as you thought they would be? Or were there a couple of silver linings in there. Okay. Yeah. The kidney and the liver surprised me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:35 They surprised everybody for what it was where it was big shock. You know what I'm saying? You should have seen everybody. Are you sure? They didn't want to test. So looking it up in the thing. We got to do that again. I think we're going to go get a second opinion.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Even Gary was like, I don't want to tell you this, but your kidneys and liver are incredible. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, yeah, but that was about the 25 day out from two bears mark. Yeah. You heard that your kidney liver is good. Like let's watch. Yeah. Looking for an assist with your credit card, but can't get a hold of anyone.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Luckily, with 24-7 U.S.-based live customer service from Discover, everyone has the option to talk to a real person any time day or night yes you heard that right you can talk to a real human and customer service anytime sounds like a real game change if you ask the boys make the right call and get the service you deserve with discover limitations apply see terms at discover dot com slash credit card i've been doing pretty good too man when's the last time y'all tied one on shit uh spring tour yeah spring tour you get on the road you do it show like you have some uh tequila soda to take the edge off before you you know go out there and do your thing with the fans and stuff and then it just like kicks up couple during the show
Starting point is 00:53:51 it's like a motivator yeah and by the end of the show you're like we should just drink all night yeah y'all vibes are up you're up high you're my favorite people to drink with i've had a good one with y'all you don't have to lie to us jelly i swear to god dog a lot of people you're a lot i've got you puking drunk and had a blast doing it. You were so fun. With Brad LeBrot, bro. Yes. You are so fun drinking.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And I like Taylor because Taylor drinks like me. You see it in his eyes. There's a switch that happens where he's essentially like, I'm doing this until I pass out. You know what I'm saying? And it's also a goal. Like if I'm going to get this fucked up, everyone else around me also is to get fucked up. Instantly, I'm like, this ship sinks like the Titanic. We play music to the death, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Women and children can live first. The rest of the men, you're dying. Yeah. We're all die here to get. That is the end of it. Yes, for sure. I know it is. I'll try to sneak because Will, will,
Starting point is 00:54:37 will understands when it's time to stop. Yeah. But drunk Taylor will not let drunk will stop. So I'm like, Hey, man, let's have one. And I'll have one if you have one. I've taken a couple waters while he's taking some tequila. I knew he too, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I fucking knew it. Hey, I'll go out to the bartender. Hey, give me that cup you just threw away. Oh, and like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'm like, are you giving him water and they're kind of like, oh, no, I know, I know, I know, like, four or five ahead of will. I'm like, no fucking chance. I'm going to let this guy. And then the next day, it's like, you're pretty fucked up last night, weren't you?
Starting point is 00:55:08 I'm like, no, no, no, we're both going to be. Hey, you were pretty fucked up last night. I'll be looking at tailoring the face. Like, I know your fucking line to me. He's like, bro, no. I need to smell. You like that to you? Just line, don't tell you, line to your face.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I'm taking the water trick. I like that. What's that? Because the trick, you got the bar to pour you water. Yes. Because I've been in a situation where you're like me. I'm like the host kind of. So like a group of people coming, I'm like, we should take a shot.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Right. The next group comes in, I'm like, we should take a shot. And then Will comes over and Will's like, we should take a shot. And I'm like, I just took three shots. Right. You know what I'm saying? No, we're just walks up behind you. Hey, for the boys, Bubba.
Starting point is 00:55:41 He's like, God damn, this double shot. Just like that. Come on, you got to. That is. A little blackout drunk gremlin. Yeah. Only at comedy clubs. We're safe there.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It's the last safe frontier. I know. June 12th, dude, live show in Nashville, man. Here? Here. Yeah. What's what we're doing? Let me check it.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And you know, last time we did a live show, when you came on, we got fucked up to like midnight. Yeah, that was a good night. That was a fun night, dude. He's tried getting hit the softball game. Dude, I remember we were singing to the crowd and the, whoo- So June 12th. Came up. And it was like, oh, Taylor's not a big louer.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And the whole crowd lost it. I was like, God damn it. Wednesday to 12, right? Wednesday at 12. Maybe. Oh, maybe. We can't tease him two months like that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I'll tell you what I do love. You saying maybe. Yeah. Because what I've noticed with this Beer Olympics thing is everyone wants to say yes first. Everyone wants to come in, but absolutely 100% and then schedules get in the way. So the fact that you said maybe made me feel a whole lot better when that no comes. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I mean, I know about this conversation, I'm like, man, I feel real good about that no when it comes by. I get it. You're busy. And you knew you were going to be a little bit busy. No. I was about. Yeah. I got you.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I think it looks like. So you've gotten to do American Idol in the voice, which one, which one do you prefer? Yeah, pick one. Thank you, Will. What a friend. I think that question came from JP, didn't it? Yeah, yeah. You're such a good friend.
Starting point is 00:57:03 You re-broke up Florida, Georgia line. Any chance we had of that reunion tour happened in the next three. Y'all just went, pow, pow! Maybe it was a start of something special. Maybe it's a start of something special. Hopefully. I mean, you want them to get back together. They were putting absolute bangor after bangor out.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And behind the scenes, it was way worse than it was in public eye, too. So after American Idol and the voice, you're also going to, where's your alliance with BK and Tyler? Thanks. Great question. You want to know who I'm voting for, motherfucker? Yeah, yeah. Tell us you're voting for it. It's just, I can't vote.
Starting point is 00:57:42 That rate has been restricted. That rate has been restricted. I love the voice. I love them both. Obviously, the political answer. Very good political answer. I do love them both. What are some differences experiencing them both?
Starting point is 00:57:55 I've had more. time with American Idol. So I've done more with them. So by default, I know more about everything. Their production crew. It's obviously I'm going to, it's hard because Reba's at the voice now and Dan and Sarah at the voice too. It was easy even just a year or two ago because it was like all the homies.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yeah. Are an American Idol. Luke Ryan's at American Idol. Lionel Richie loves me. I fucking love him. Katie Perry is the coolest person ever. Yeah. By the way, Katie Perry is a boss.
Starting point is 00:58:23 She is so gangster. But, um, but the voice now. with Reba and Dan, dude. Dan and say it's really cool over there. I got to mentor at American Idol, though. That is special, dude. That's special. And that was different.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I spent a whole day, and I could not believe how excited I was to do it. Like, when I started, like, getting to hear their stories and seeing that I could actually help, because I just assumed, dude, if you've made it to the top 24 on American Idol, I don't got much advice for you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Like, what do I know that you haven't figured out? You know what I'm saying? I'll go out here and sing off-key right now. You know what I'm saying? I'll fuck this whole thing. I'll bomb it. You know what I'm saying? I'm two drinks away from going completely tone deaf in this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:59:04 You know what I'm saying? I don't think I can help. But when I realized that they were young and had never even, some of these people had like never left their home state. And here they are in Hawaii. And they're fixing to go live in L.A. for three weeks with a bunch of strangers and battled it out on national TV. I was like, I can help these people.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You know what I mean? It's like you think about how that's a moment in their life that they'll tell to their great grandchildren that they're alive. you know what I mean whether they came in first or 15th that's a wild story that I'm getting to be a part of
Starting point is 00:59:31 so by default probably American Idol we're gonna answer you want to the direct answer that was a direct answer we got him yeah TMZ jelly roll hates the voice
Starting point is 00:59:41 yeah for sure and I love the voice you've always enjoyed that kind of stuff though because you go you'll go to the local juvenile and everything else
Starting point is 00:59:47 I feel like and you can correct me if I'm wrong but it almost you strike me as somebody who there's been so many people who's imprinted
Starting point is 00:59:54 on you forming the voice that you do, you know you can have that same effect on a young you. For sure, for sure. And I also draw from the times that nobody was there. Like the juvenile thing is a stroke because the only people that came to see us when I was in juvenile were the Gideons. Are you familiar with the Gideon organization? Have you ever been at a hotel and open up a drawer and there was a Bible?
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. That's the Gideons. So what they do is they mass-produce Bibles and give them away free. They give them to people incarcerated hotels, motels across America. They just give away Bibles. that kind of there, and it's led by kind of a bunch
Starting point is 01:00:27 of older men. But they would just come in and give us Bibles once a month. The New Testament's because they'd fit in our pocket. And which I appreciate
Starting point is 01:00:37 because I read the Bible because of that. But nobody ever came in that like spoke. Like since I partner with this juvenile up here, Joyner Lucas, machine gun Kelly,
Starting point is 01:00:48 uh, we've had Titan players go, D-Hop hit me, he wants to go. Y'all are waiting on me to send y'all a date right now. You've hit me about that more anybody will about hit you and de hop
Starting point is 01:00:58 d hop hits me a lot like yo when am i going to the juvenile like it's so cool to see that you know it's like man we never had nobody that cool come talk to us like me and m gk went in there the other day and played spades for four hours with every unit no shit you clean house nice running dimes on the dog you know what I mean it was awesome and it's like the coolest thing is most of these kids in here don't know either one of us really they might have known him because he's like uber famous or they know me because I'm local in the studios named after me
Starting point is 01:01:25 in the facility. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's jelly roll? Yeah, they're not like jelly. They're not in there. You know what I'm saying? It's not a big hit in there. They might.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah, you never know. You know what I'm saying? But they watch me on TV now. When I have an award show, they watch. That's why I shouted them out at the CMTs. I knew they'd be watching. Oh, that is awesome. But yeah, so I go in there because I just want them to see people like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It'd be really just to see things you don't see before. Like just people to go in there and treat them like humans or kids again. Like, I just want to treat them like kids. I go play spades and talk shit to them. like it's fun. You know, what they need. We forget their kids.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And you know, the coolest thing is, Judge Callaway has been coming in there. She went in there when we did the songwriting program and wrote songs with the kids. She went in there when I went to see them last time to say hi and watch us play spades and play the space. Who's Joe Callow?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Judge Callow. Judge Callow. Judge Calloway is one of the judges a juvenile. Okay. You know how awesome that is for them to see her be a human, not this godlike figure in a gown and a gavel? And it's so good for her to see them be 16. create more empathy
Starting point is 01:02:27 because all the people walking through her door every day eventually you get numb to it yeah and all you see you don't see the age and think of them as a kid you see specially aggravated robbery right you see attempted homicide you see their charges
Starting point is 01:02:39 because this juvenile down here is only houses serious crimes it's like when I take y'all there you'll see there's kids in there looking at 20 30 40 50 years it's crazy it's sad it's really sad it's really dark
Starting point is 01:02:51 that's where I was for so many years in that same facility. Music City Miracle, you watched it there. I had the funniest moment in there last week, Taylor. I'm talking to this kid and we're doing the music program
Starting point is 01:03:01 and Ernest is up there singing or something and he goes, why do you do this? And I go, why do I do what? He goes, why do you come here and sing for us? And I was like, because I was here. He was like, oh, you were somewhere like this? And I was like, no, no, I was here.
Starting point is 01:03:13 He was like in a juvenile or a group home or something. I was like, here, motherfucker, right here in this kitchen. Right here. I worked in there. I served food. The guy named Oscar was the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Dittal, I was in these sales. He was like, oh, you were here. I was like, yeah, man, here. And instantly I watched him look at me a little differently. Right. You know what because it wasn't like I was from Minnesota or somewhere else. Like, no, no, I was in this juvenile. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:38 Once he got, it took him so long. It also made me realize, you know, that's also so humbling for me. I'm going and serving dudes. Like I said, they know me, but they don't. Wasn't as cool. When I brought Jordan Lucas, that was a big deal. Yeah. When I FaceTimed NBA young boy in there, they lost their shit.
Starting point is 01:03:52 When Jellyroll walks in, they're like, whatever, you want to play Spades, old dude? You know what I'm saying? I guess play Spades, man. How's your case? Is that area? Is that all pretty much Nashville and Tennessee? Yeah, it's all Nashville. You'll have a couple, like, from Columbia if they can't house them up there.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Gallatin, if they can't hold them up there. It's a serious charge from like a county over. When you go there, is it pretty much look the exact same or there's been some upgrades? Like, how does it feel walking back into that building after you spent so much time in there? It's the exact same? Is that a good thing or about that? It's kind of sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 It's kind of sad. The good news is they've been approved because of the stadium moving, all that land's getting brought down eventually. So in the next three years, they're going to move to a new juvenile too. Nice. Which is cool because the county has agreed to let me get in early and build the studio in it from the beginning. So I'll be able to build a real state.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Because right now we've had to put a studio in a concrete and steel closet in every unit. So I've had to build like five of them there. Where here I'm going to be able to build like real estate. educational unit and education. I'm going to be able to dump a couple million dollars into this place and really build it out. That's cool, man. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news.
Starting point is 01:05:01 What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So how do we actually come up with the name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 01:05:37 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.
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Starting point is 01:07:39 Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slices Life 12 and the TikTok podcast. network on TikTok. You bought up that new stadium. First concert, new stadium, jelly roll. I have a 2027.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Can I tell you the craziest dream I have? This is like me dreaming big. I dream to be the last show at Nissan Stadium and the first show at Nissan Stadium. That would be hype as fun. Wouldn't that be like, how much more poetic could it be for the local kid? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:15 That would be all fucking time. I tell you what my big, you know, I'm doing a stadium for CMA this year, Saturday night. The Saturday night CMA, I'll do the 30-minute set. But I think we're going to swing for it next year. Really? That's a breaking news, too. And that'll be the last concert?
Starting point is 01:08:31 That's why everybody who wants to know why I didn't do Nashville this year. Wasn't because of the CMA Fest. It was because I think next year I want to really go for it. If you're creating a lineup for that last one in the old Nissan Stadium, who's a lineup? Oh, goodness. Man. Great question.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Thanks, brother. That jelly rolling friends It's like Yeah the jelly rolling friends Who are the ideal? Who are the ideal? Well you gotta bring Ernest Because he's a Nashville guy
Starting point is 01:08:55 That's like a must do You know what you do You gotta bring all the Nashville guys To some capacity So like Tin Penny Chris Young You know what I mean
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like Dustin Lynch The obvious is Like all the Middle Tennessee guys Have got to come straight in You know what I mean? You know who's from Middle Tennessee I didn't know And I was so embarrassed by this
Starting point is 01:09:15 The singer from Lady Yeah, Hillary. Oh, for real? She grew up in Donaldson. Yeah, I have no, that's over my head. That's my family. That's not a year before. They've been cleaning up for about two decades.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yeah, they're massive. Yeah. I'll chalk that one up to the room. There are a huge deal. Yeah. I believe her name's Hillary. There's three of them, my fault. Yeah, her name's Hillary, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I'm not butchering it. And, uh, yeah, she's, uh, she's from Nashville, too, and she came to me the other day about that and just kind of, we got to really talk about some Nashville stuff. So I'd do those. Then I would extend to the Tennessee portion of it. So I would love to have, I don't know if I blow, this could be some of my strict,
Starting point is 01:09:50 so I can't give all these away. Yeah, yeah, you're right. But I would reach out to my Memphis friends. I would have a couple of my Memphis friends come up and be surprised guests. And I'd have a couple of my East Tennessee friends be surprised guests. Okay. I would reach throughout the state for sure. I'd make it a Tennessee thing.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I love it too because the people who are day one jelly roll people. They're already like, he's talking about so and so. Yeah. And I have no idea who he's talking about. Jake, you have any idea? What, who? Oh, from either. East Tennessee or Memphis?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Oh, no. I mean, I can probably guess on who he's hinting at. Guess. Dude, the day one, Jellian,
Starting point is 01:10:25 well, I was just thinking about that fucking freestyle you have, where you go, my P.O. ask, I hanged dryball.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I swear to God that freestyle. I mean, my friends were watching two weekends ago, like 2 a. m. We're just, like,
Starting point is 01:10:36 all standing up and like, it's just fucking so good. I'm proud of that freestyle. It is a good freestyle. He said, for the record.
Starting point is 01:10:44 For the record. For the record. Just so y'all know. All of my old music did not stand the test of time with the record, but the 10-minute freestyle did. Dude, what was that transition like
Starting point is 01:10:54 going from rap to country? It was easy because I was just starting to sing a lot more and play the guitar and I was just, I was growing as a human and as a man. And I don't want to say I was running out of subject matter, but I really felt what Andre said when he was like, man,
Starting point is 01:11:10 and I think he's in his 50s now, late 40s or whatever it is, he's like, what am I, what am I going to rap about? You know, we're just We've never Hip Hop's like the UFC It's not as old as we think it is Like we look at the UFC
Starting point is 01:11:26 Like this has been around 100 years People have been fighting forever Yeah but the UFC's really been around 30 25 something like that Like if you compare to how long Football's been around People have been throwing leather balls And calling it touchdowns
Starting point is 01:11:38 You know what I mean? Like in comparison The same thing happened with hip hop Like we don't know what that tailwind looks like We're just watching our first real generation of hip real commercial success commercially successful rappers age right the ice cubes you know what I mean like we're just now seeing that happen so I didn't even know how hip hop would age to be honest because all I seen was guys like jZ at the peak when they were at their absolute best say I'm too old to do it I'm done yeah you you know what I mean so I kind of always had it in my head of like okay this is a young man sport you know one of a Jay Z's best fuck you moments to me and I just found out about this the least the least singer of Oasis. Wonderwall, have you seen that clip? This is... He was headlining. He's headlining at a festival.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And it's like, it used to be like a, just a strictly rock and roll festival, right? And Jay Z is like the number one dude. And the guy from Oasis... This is 2008 in Glastonbury, by the way. It's one of the biggest festivals ever. Basically goes off on Jay Z. Like, this is about rock and roll. This is disgusting. Ball, blah. That kind of goes in on Jay Z. Jay Z opens his show, singing Wonderwall. He comes out singing Wonder... And then he goes, I got 99 problems with a bitch ain't one.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And he goes into it. He's like obviously not playing the guitar, but this shit goes so hard. No, no, he's just being petty. This is how he started his show. Yeah. This is what makes him the king. We share a birthday and I take pride in that. You turn that up?
Starting point is 01:13:02 You turn that up, Jack. Headphones? Can you hear it? Put those headphones on, Jelly. Does Jelly have any? Do you have headphones? Damn, Jelly got no headphones. Sorry, I know what he's doing here.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I've watched this a thousand times. Bro. I'm such a fan. So this dude's been talking shit to him. Yeah. This is literally how he starts the show. And Jay-Z didn't say a word in the media. People, hey, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:13:36 He ignored radio, ignored news, all that. And he comes out and just shits on this cat. But yeah, that's basically it. When you said Jay-Z, I was like, damn. That is awesome. Yeah. You also brought up our boy, MGK. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Which I know you did me a solid that night at the Super Bowl. Yeah. He was the first time Him and I met I think I told this already On the podcast He was obviously going through some I think the thing with
Starting point is 01:14:04 That UFC fighter Sean Strickland So he was kind of off Through a little shoulder into me Whatever and I see Jelleyroll A couple nights later I was like yeah I met him to K Because you know I'm a huge fan
Starting point is 01:14:15 I was like eh It was all right blah blah blah Fast forward two nights later We're at Caesars Yeah In this like private room And it's me Jelly Dana Dana squad
Starting point is 01:14:24 And he walks in And I was like in the bathroom came back and this man was so fucking nice to me to the point where he's like yo i'm sending my music you can give me pointers i'm thinking jelly must have said something he's he is like the most misunderstood dude you know what i mean you caught him in those moments where he's constantly misunderstood because he just doesn't understand this all still and his mind he's like i don't even know this ufc fighter like why would he even fuck with me like that you know what I mean, he's like, which I love Sean Strickland too, so it sucks to kind of, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:01 I'm such a fan of both, but it's like, MGK just looks at it like, and he had the realest thing he said to me one time. He said, man, I just feel like if I didn't have, make the fashion choices I made, I would have never caught all the shit I've caught. You know what I mean? He's like, I feel like I kind of get unfairly picked on just because I'm, you know, I'm artsy. You know what I'm uniquely himself.
Starting point is 01:15:22 He's like, but like he's the sad thing, you might not know it. He's like, but he says it just. just like this. He's like, don't let the pain and nails fail you. Like, I'm like a dude's dude. He really is.
Starting point is 01:15:30 He's like a go, like wrestle with you in the yard, go party with you all night. Like he's like a dude's dude. You know what I mean? Like he's a funny kind of dude, man. And he's a, you've seen it that night,
Starting point is 01:15:40 he's charming. He's funny. He's a sweet dude. But his headlines would have he believe he's a monster. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's got a chip on his shoulder. And there is a little bit of that.
Starting point is 01:15:48 But he's also, I remind people to remember where people are from. This dude is from the east side of Cleveland, Ohio. I don't know if you've ever been to Cleveland, Ohio, except for the time you spent at the Brown Stadium. But you've seen it. That was it.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah. And I'm willing to bet the sun wasn't shining a bunch. I love that city to death. It's one of my favorite places to play because it's hardworking America. It's a great safe. But it's a tough fucking town, dog. But listen, I compare all those towns like that. That Rust Belt, Pittsburgh's the same way.
Starting point is 01:16:15 That's a tough town. Like, which is why the shows are great. Our truck, listen, this isn't a save. This is real. I would rather play anywhere in the Rust Belt than anywhere LA and down. Damn,
Starting point is 01:16:30 that's a shot of Arizona. Yeah. No, no, no, I love Arizona too. Arizona's dope. You know what's happening to Arizona.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I'm saying coastal. No, the only reason why I go to Ohio is because Ohio State and I went to Michigan. Sometimes those super major cities can be a little too cool for the show. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:16:47 They'll enjoy the show, but like when you go play Indiana, they lose, their shit on a Tuesday. Yeah. You go play L.A. on a Saturday, they'll get out of their seat for seven songs. I think,
Starting point is 01:16:59 and that's going to a toughest place. LA's got to be one of the hardest places to play. Yeah. Because everyone's in the music industry or the acting industry. Everybody wants to be. And here. Everyone thinks they're sick.
Starting point is 01:17:07 That's why my success in Nashville is so mind-blowing to people. That's why it's always been a big deal that I could sell tickets here because most artists can't. Really? Yeah, man. When you play Nashville to pick there?
Starting point is 01:17:18 Yeah. I hate to cut this off, but I have to be so bad. Did you drink too much water there, big fella? Yeah. I suck me down a liter and feel great. Hey, you with the sucking. You bet that's a third time.
Starting point is 01:17:30 No, I'm telling you. Fuck, dude. God, man, Pauls. Just as a fucking letting go. What did you do to Willie this morning? Why is he pinned? Y'all drink last night or no?
Starting point is 01:17:39 No, we did nothing. We have a, dude, we drink at spring tour. Are y'all really, what are y'all doing right now? Like three pods a week? No, I just one. We did our spring tour. Our spring tour is like Falcons. We just did two weeks ago or last week.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Yeah, I've seen the Bajon. And that was, is that how you say Bison Robinson? Bison Robison. Yeah, that kid's a stud too. Talk about a kid who's just like. What a cool personality. Yes. He's awesome.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Rahim Morris, the head coach, he's like a dude, like talking shit. We walked in the facility and he's legit like, hey, you guys do whatever the fuck you want. Like, we're walking on the field while they're doing practice. And a lot of NFL teams do not do that. Then obviously, Kirk's the man too. Yeah. But we, during those spring tours, we'll do like three episodes in the week. But right now, I mean, it's Tuesday afternoon.
Starting point is 01:18:20 or Tuesday mornings is when you're going to catch bus with the boys. How was the Rann one? It hadn't came out yet. I'm excited about it. Oh, Ran? Bro, you're going to like Rann. The way he talks about Brable, how he left. I think the people listening now,
Starting point is 01:18:32 that one came out last week. But he was, he's like one of those guys, too, where with John Robinson, how he was a GM, he kept it tight like the Patriots. They made it, like, everything was like on need to know basis.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Kind of kept to himself, kept a major, like, arms length with the players. With RAN, he walks in the facility, dude, and everyone's like loves him. He's sitting down. He's eating with the boys. Like it keeps it very personal. It's a completely different energy
Starting point is 01:18:56 in the Titans facility right now. Which, low-key being a Titans fan, did you should be hype right now. I am. It's going to be. I'm excited. The, man, I mean, I think Will Levis has got the eye of the tiger.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I've said it from day one. Yeah. I really do. It felt really good to hear Callahan feel the same way. Whenever he said, I think he said that was one of the things that made him want to take the job here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And the quarterbacks he's been with before. Payton Manning, Joe Burrow. Stafford? Get out of here. I'm watching. I'm like, this is insane. No, he's going to go. I really think the Tigers are going to go nuts to the outside field.
Starting point is 01:19:27 We're going to go to a practice sometime in the summit summer. I'll take you the day you should come. We're going to go there and just shoot content. Absolutely. That would be awesome. But before Willie left, we were talking about MGK. If you guys talked about changing genres, was that anything you guys found in? He was one of the ones that inspired me.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Really? For sure. Yeah. Whenever he, his fearless tread in the rock, about the same time I was, releasing Save Me. It was so funny because two dudes that came up doing the same thing. And there was a time me and MGK had real beef. We were very competitive.
Starting point is 01:19:56 There was a time where there could only be one white rapper at a time. You know, it was kind of that thing. And Hillman, Yellow Wolf had problems. Eminem just crowns the next one. I was going to say, you guys just putting Eminem in a different stratosphere. It's between the second place. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I know him and Kells had their thing. But at the end of the day, Eminem's the goat. I'm not going to, I'm not going to, you know what I mean? Like that dude is the fucking greatest of all time. Yeah. Period. No discussion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:19 what I mean? End of discussion. Podcasts over. Period. It's kind of like when Stapleton gets best male vocalist. And you're just like, we should just call it the Chris Stapleton award and he should give it away. That's what we did with them and him.
Starting point is 01:20:29 You know what I'm saying? Like we all know that it's like, you know, but. And back then we took, you know, it's a bunch of street factors to it. We only squashed the beef because some street dudes got together and was like, yo, y'all need to figure this out because y'all are fucking up some money. We got some shit going on that this is interfering with outside of y'all being too goofy white rappers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:49 We were like, all right, cool. What was the beef? Yeah, I was going to say when you're saying, figure it out. Oh, you were. I was a young fucking hater. And I thought I was just a loyal writer because it, you know, whatever. But at the end of the day, I was just desperate. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:21:02 Trying to get it. Yeah, just fucking desperate. Just being a fucking stone cold hater, you know. And had to call and be a man and say that one day. You know what I mean? But, uh, and we've been cool ever since, man. He's a, he's a great dude, man. That dude is a, he's salt of the earth.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I, look. I'm encouraging him right now to go do long for him. I'm like, go do soles. Go do Joe. Go get on the bus. Like go do the rounds. Like go. If the world's seeing what I see, they would look at you different.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Right. You know what I mean? But they only see these real artistic pictures you post and these wild outfits and these headlines. You know what I mean? It's like they don't really get to see your heart. And you've got such a good heart. Like go show the world your heart. Like this dude flies to Cleveland every single weekend to watch his
Starting point is 01:21:49 daughter play volleyball. Yeah, that's all time. Every weekend. Like, won't tour or do shows during volleyball season? Like, it's just what he's on. That's just who that dude is. I'm like, go tell that story. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:01 Where's his hesitation from going and doing these long-form shows? He's kind of getting willing to. You know what I mean? He's just, you know, he's been misunderstood and outcasted for so long. He don't even know how to approach it. Yeah, it's got to be hard, man. And he's got like an introverted personality, too. There's that fear of like, if they're hitting me like this, like, what if I show
Starting point is 01:22:19 them myself for real. Yeah. They can actually hate me. Right, right. Yeah, because right now he could probably sit there
Starting point is 01:22:24 and look at all the hate and be like, well, they don't really know me. For sure. I'm misunderstood. The minute you allow them to understand you and hate you. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:30 That's a new fear unlocked. Yeah. Yeah. And he's also growing. He's young, man. He's a little younger than me. Even like when Morgan had this incident with the bar stool,
Starting point is 01:22:40 I got to remind people that like, I could not, as famous as I am today, if me and Bunny would have been this famous when we got together, we'd have gotten canceled immediately. For sure. Cancel before cancel even happens.
Starting point is 01:22:52 For sure. We would have blown it. We'd have fucked the back up. For sure. We'd have blew it. We'd have got in trouble every way you can get in trouble to Sunday. We'd have been, I am not proud to say this, and this isn't the headline I'm looking for. But I've never thrown a bar stool off one of those roofs, but I've thrown shit off of them before I've been drunk enough to throw a plastic cup.
Starting point is 01:23:14 You know what I mean? Like, I'm not proud of that neither in my early 30s. Plus the cup. Big different. But what I'm saying is, is that you're not fucking far. We got escorted out by the police too. You know what I'm saying? It's like I've got enough, you know, we got in bar fights back then.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Like, real deal, like, we were living a totally different thing. Like, I just be patient. Be graceful. You're talking about the most famous artist in America and he's 32 years old and he's from Spitbucket, East Tennessee. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, man, have a little grace.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Which, by the way, that's one of your, uh, Tennessee friends you would call in to do the show. You see, I'm picking those pieces of, huh? That weed you gave me. I'm in flow state right now. I'm telling you, dude, right? But no, it is crazy. And I'm not saying he wasn't wrong.
Starting point is 01:24:01 But it's like, man, give my man, give my man some grace, y'all. For sure. I think God he blessed me because at 32 years old, I'm not going to Congress and talking about fentanyl. Right. But at 40 years old, I got a 16-year-old that I'm afraid of doing drugs. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:15 You just life is perspective. More experience. Yeah. His son's going to grow. he's going to grow man. My man just made a bad mistake. He was over celebrating. Could you imagine being that famous?
Starting point is 01:24:23 I'd be over celebrating too. Crazy. You know what I'm saying? Hey, but a bar stool? A barstool downtown? Yeah, that was crazy. I think he catches a lot of heat too because he's had some, he's had some dustups recently over the last like couple years or since the trove and stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Yeah. What I'm saying? Then you go out. You're like, I'm going to go through all this stuff. And then you have an incident like the bar stool. I know. It is nuts.
Starting point is 01:24:49 And you're that, like you said, the most famous guy. Did y'all see Schultz when he came to town? Did y'all see that? No. Two things, sidebar. We'll get back to that. But, because this is parallel. Andrew Schultz's hour that he's doing right now the life might be the best.
Starting point is 01:25:05 And I'm a comedy fan. Yeah. Might be the best hour I've ever seen. Really? Oh shit. I'm not bullshit. And I went to, I went and seen everybody comedy week. I hung out with Tony Hinchcliff again.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I've become one of my best friends. Tony Hitchcliffe's fucking a murderer. I got to watch him work out some of them roast jokes at the Rhyman. Really? Yeah. Dude. It was so cool. You obviously watched the roast.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Oh, God. How incredible. He owned the show and Will was talking to him. I love you to even say what you were saying because the blog's going to come out. Right. We, um, because this will come out. This CMA fest is this weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Um, but he was at, we were in Austin to do two bears one K. And I was on before him. I did an hour with them. And then as we're sitting and eating. You know how they have that comic Dave who does all the grilling, the barbecue and everything else. We're in there eating. Like, oh, Tony's next. So Tony Hinchcliffe comes in.
Starting point is 01:25:56 And I'm like, oh, shit. Like, I know you've heard this, but you obviously absolutely murdered it. It's been crazy to see you're just not overnight success, but the way that mainstream has seen you and your popularity in the lot since then. And yeah, he was like, yo, step outside with me while I rip this dart. Like when he's smoking a cigarette. He's like, I'll be in there in a minute. And we're just out there talking. and he's telling me how he basically squeezed in more time
Starting point is 01:26:18 of how everything unfolded during the roast because they were only giving him he could stand up and roast like the table he was at. And then he like kind of talked his way in the night before to do what he did. He knew in his mind he was going to do that, but he had to keep it close to the vest because there's like this is going to be a situation
Starting point is 01:26:37 where I walk up there on stage and I do everything that he basically did. Oh no, no, he's a... That dude? owned the night to me, him and Nicky. Owned it. And he even talks through that strategy because he's like, I'm two hours after Nicky.
Starting point is 01:26:52 So you're feeling the energy in the room and I probably wouldn't have done these jokes up front if I was at the beginning or if I was right after or at a different time. He talks about the instinct and the feel thing through it all. You can tell like he's, I mean, he's I think 11 years, 17 years of comedy, 11 years with the live show. He is one of the greatest comedians.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I said this when I got to introduce him at the rhyme because we've become really good buddies is he has done more for new comedians in the last 10 years than any comic ever has ever. Because of that 62nd. Because of that Kill Tony show. He's been putting comedians on for a decade plus now. 11 years he's been putting comedians on. His timing is impeccable. His reading a room.
Starting point is 01:27:33 His roasting. He's one of the original roasters with Jeff Ross. You look back at young baby-faced Tony Henscliffe just slaughtering people. But I think he owned the night for this reason. he was the one comedian that you could tell. He didn't just make you laugh. He made you go, whew. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:51 Right. Every single just, he's just, Zach Crowell said it the best, he's a knife of a man. You know what I'm saying? He's just a knife of a man. And watching him walk and me being like really good friends with him when it was over. And then watching Kevin kick it back.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Like, hold on. We don't need to gloss by this one, y'all. We just watch something happen here. Yeah. Let's let this simmer for a second. And you just watched all them comedians on stage, loving on them. Yeah. He's even blushing a little bit.
Starting point is 01:28:24 It was like, clip this to me so I could send it for Tony. Yeah. But it's like, man, that dude watching him. And I'm looking, I'm seeing myself in all these parallel stories, too. It's that like when he wins, I feel like I won a little bit kind of thing. Right. And I think that's how y'all feel when I win. It's how I feel when y'all win.
Starting point is 01:28:40 because I feel like we all kind of started, not at the same time, but we were all at the same place around the same time. All hungry, all like doing our thing. All hungry and trying to figure it out. He just moved to Austin about the same time. Y'all were busing the boat. And that's when it really started, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:54 Till Tony's been going, but it's when it started growing bigger legs and getting bigger. Then we watched the bus grow. I've watched the same thing happen with Shultz. When me and Shultz wrote Opener Up in 2020, you know, he was doing two nights at Zanis. Ms. Schultz is doing arenas everywhere in America. He's doing a 40-something multiple nights.
Starting point is 01:29:13 He's a stud too. He is at that hour. Tony murdering? Murdering. He even talked about knowing him doing all the rest and everything else. He's doing it for the audience that is like a part of his show. He knows there's so many people beyond the walls of it. Some of those jokes feeling uncomfortable, which is what we love is like, you're sitting
Starting point is 01:29:31 in there like, man, you got to wonder what the temperature is in that room when these jokes are being said. But he talks about it through that. lens like about how much of a of a game it is like in real time like being an athlete on a field and he's from Youngstown Ohio oh yeah so we we were connected from a poorest side of it yeah yeah yeah which is already a poor side of Ohio I was got a couple of shoutouts on this podcast man he he says he says he runs his operation shout Detroit actually love Detroit he's all my favorite place to play actually literally but he was saying how he runs his operation like a college football
Starting point is 01:30:06 team because you got the stoop's, the Polini's that grew up in young time, a very hard-nosed town. But he was cool, man, super nice dude. And he's an old school. He's a comics, comic too. Every night he's at that comedy mothership and he's downstairs after his set, smoking a cigarette, talking to carry the bartender at Mitzies and running back material with the boys. That's awesome. Like, I get to sit in there and watch it every time I go. I've got to go, I think, four times this year already just because we've been out there so much for different, for the awards and I spent a week out there for CMTs
Starting point is 01:30:38 but I've already you know it's just he's just who he is he lives in yeah I love people that live their craft right that's why we're all drawn to earnest or y'all are drawn to me like people who are like I love old school music men too like them dudes that show up in boots and dusters and hats and they just look dirty and they'd be like
Starting point is 01:30:54 they're playing guitar for 20 years straight the best guitar players there's it I love those dudes and I love people that truly live their craft you can tell his life is dedicated to that style of comedy. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:06 It's incredible to me because when you were talking about meeting Tony and I was like, yeah, it's crazy. This thing he did just blew up and you were telling me it was 11 years.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I felt a victim to seeing something that's now popular and not realizing how long it took to get to that point. Right. Which is so many things
Starting point is 01:31:23 I feel like casual fans of whatever don't see. Right. Because he is, he is a layer. The clips. It's the 10-year overnight success store.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Yeah, the 10-year overnight success store. It is crazy, man. It is. Which is funny because it's fun to see you in that business now because y'all too came from the opposite business. Yeah. I guess it's still kind of the same, though.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Y'all played football for 15 years for free. You know what I mean? Before y'all went on for it to change your life in every way it could. But it's like the meat of your career is that 21 to 29 where like they say an artist doesn't hit his actual peak until he's like 27. And it's like the artistic peak. You know what I mean? So it's just, it's just a different game, man.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 01:32:19 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 01:32:44 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levin this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive?
Starting point is 01:33:47 The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
Starting point is 01:34:17 That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down,
Starting point is 01:34:42 give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast. network on TikTok. It is a weird world. It's weird transitioning worlds too. Like going from one to now doing this.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I'm playing football forever. It's all you know. Yeah. Because now you're half a decade into the 10-year grind. Yeah. You know what I mean? Absolutely. But you're already getting big calls.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Cool calls. Really cool calls. Yeah. I tell you what, at five years in, I wasn't getting cool calls. Yeah. I can tell you that. No cool calls were happening. Five years in for me.
Starting point is 01:35:24 We will see. We need you to watch. Yeah. It comes out. I'm in. I'm just, I'm supporting you in. general, but whatever, you know me.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Speaking of cool calls, our agents on the way over, he's like out of breath sprinting around the airport. Oh, is he? Yeah, one on the other side. I had a bite of food. I was so hungry. I had one bite, took a piss. And I was, oh, climb, what's up?
Starting point is 01:35:43 He loves you. Oh, don't. He's sprinting around the air. Like, once it was, I saw the group chat when I was taking a piss. And it was like, all right. He's like, hey, I landed. I'll head right on over and stuff like that. And Steve was like, okay, all good.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Take your time. The boys are in the middle of an interview. jelly roll and everybody's just hitting the chat like oh Klein's gonna lose his mind. He's like, he's like, I'm out of breath trying to fucking get to my Uber. I'm out of breath trying to get to my Uber. I want to meet him. He represents y'all on the book,
Starting point is 01:36:10 live booking side or? No, he does a podcast. He does. He represents the bussing brand in general. Wow. Yeah, Silver Tribe. Yes. Dave Porn and he's best friend. Yeah, yeah. He loves agents. Yeah. Yeah, our deal's up. We got, we got it. It's contract year for the boys. Contract year for the boys. Contract year for the boys.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I need that. How y'all feel about it? It's solid, man. I mean, you kind of just do the content, and then whenever the conversations come up, you just have the conversations. Yeah. But then you got to put in your back pocket
Starting point is 01:36:39 and just keep moving forward. Kind of meet you where you're at. I hate to circle back, but you know me. The Andrew Schultz show. Yes. Best show, best I've ever seen. And I'm sure he won't mind me stepping on this joke because I don't think he's going to use it for a special office.
Starting point is 01:36:51 But you know, he does kind of crowd work at the beginning of all this show. It's kind of what he, you know, Schultz is just a sharp guy. He's one of the best comedy, comedians ever. And he came out talking about the Morgan Wallens bit about, you know, because it just happened. It was like the week of. And he was like, we're not mad at him though, right? And he goes, because we don't really know who he was throwing that bar still at.
Starting point is 01:37:10 He said if he was throwing in a bachelorette party, he is the hero Nashville needs. You know what I'm saying? It's not the one we deserve, but what we need. But just hearing him just how sharp Schultz is that he just... Bro, he just seems so knowledgeable. And he understands like, enough. It feels like in every area of life to where you sit there.
Starting point is 01:37:32 You're like, how does this man come up with all of this stuff? Yeah. Even watching the show, is it flagrant? That's his podcast. Bro, it is so good. And he just had a CIA operative on there. For sure. Or an ex-CIA guy. And they're going back and forth a whole bunch.
Starting point is 01:37:44 You watch that little 30-second clip showing you what the show's going to be about. God damn, this is going to be an awesome show. He does a great job. He's very with it, very well-spoken. Very curious. Yeah. Yeah. He does a great job.
Starting point is 01:37:55 His hour is, it's one of the tightest. hours I've ever seen. Really? It is special. You did say it's the best hour you've ever seen. It might be the best hour I've ever seen. It's in the top five. I'm high, so I'm spittball in here.
Starting point is 01:38:07 I don't want to get held to the cross on the number one ever. I will hold you that. But it's definitely a top five for sure. It is not seen it. Side unseen when it comes out. I put it this way, there's two moments in it that I teared up. It's like it's a one-man show almost. It was special, man.
Starting point is 01:38:24 God, I can't wait. We had the shot to go when he was, He was at the Ryman? Was he at the Ryman? He was at the Grand Ole Opry House. Y'all should have came. I came out to something. There was something happening that weekend where we weren't in town.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Neither of us were. Because Derek Poston, you know Derek? Yeah, of course. He was like, hey, you and the boys, you guys want to come out to see Shull's show? I was like, man, nobody's in town this weekend. Derek killed it that night, too. Bro, even seeing him, he's been ascending. Like, that's Darren Bates.
Starting point is 01:38:50 That's like one of DB's best friends. Really? And he was on when my time on the Raw Room. And then we were over at AJ's house. night just cutting it up and he's telling serious or he's like talking about serials and scary movies and seeing like him and who's his uh who's his like co-host in his show and i know i'm putting this on the spot there but seeing seeing seeing those two at that moment time and now seeing the circles that they're in like the circles that they're in like the circles that derrick you're
Starting point is 01:39:16 talking about on derrick show or on andrew so Derek okay oh because derrick has a pot too i know we kind of doesn't he sit in now on shows your show he's like part of that crew well he's been he's been and Schultz have been together for a while. And Schulton and him are super super soon. But seeing him in all those circles and then Rogan, Tony, Tony was bringing him up. Yeah. It's just like, it's, it's cool to see. Because everybody in that community is like you're one person removed from everybody, man.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Who is this guy? Derek Poston. Go ahead. Bring him up. He's a hoot and a half, man. He was on here. Dude, he was on the back of the bus when Shob was on with Chandler and I, that one, the very first time in the summer. You're number one.
Starting point is 01:39:55 He was in the back, swinded out. He is funny, funny, man. Dude, he's, yes, he really is. I don't think I've met this, dude. In matter of fact, the Shaw, when we went to see Shaw, but Zaney's posting was one of the openers. Oh, that I have. Yeah, one of the three openers.
Starting point is 01:40:11 No, he's super funny. And it seemed like he's like, you know, ascending on the rise. I'll tell you another good hour to watch right now on Netflix is Brian Simpson. Brian Simpson, pull him up. It's live from the comedy mothership. It's the first one that, he's the first one that came live from the comedy mother ship. he's one of the first ones
Starting point is 01:40:26 to move down there so the cool thing about this was it's on Netflix I got to experience him in the club the first time and he stole the night like I left he had a bit
Starting point is 01:40:37 I won't say it because it's on his special that he said I heard it one time that night and I've told it a thousand times probably to anybody who will listen it's one of the funniest bits I've ever heard
Starting point is 01:40:46 it's just a one funny bit the whole special is great but he had a 15 minutes set on a Ron White show the first time I ever seen him and I left thinking about that bit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:40:57 That's what I left thinking about. I wonder what those headliners think when they have a guy like that who just kills. You really want them on your show? Yeah. People walking away not thinking about you, thinking about them instead?
Starting point is 01:41:08 No, do they love that though? It makes them step it up. I've seen them talk about it in the green rooms. Really? It's the most, comedians, I heard there's a lot of competition in comedy,
Starting point is 01:41:17 but I've only experienced the groups of people that love each other. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So when they're like, no, trust me. comedy's not always like this.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I'm like, it's all I've ever seen. It's like a lot of it. You know what I mean? It's your children. The homies, yeah. My truth is the 12 friends I've made in comedy, all love the fuck out of each other,
Starting point is 01:41:33 work together, boost each other up and are all damn near arena acts now. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's got to be high school. It's like the comedians out there. It's like this, Nashville's high schoolish.
Starting point is 01:41:45 There's artists that you get clicks. There's artists that are, you know, they're the homies. Songwriters are the same way. They're kind of all right with the same people. They'll let somebody in and out every now and then a rent. but it's all clicking.
Starting point is 01:41:54 You're right. It's all high school. Then you kind of hate on the circles that are not in the circle. It happens. That always happens. Jelly roll, MGK,
Starting point is 01:42:01 prime example. Yeah. Not the same circles at one point. Decide to hate on each other. Not even on each other. I was the hater. The sad part was I was the end of it. It's so hard to eat that.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Yeah. That it was all me. You know what I'm saying? God damn. He's like, you guys got a squash this beef and MGK's like, what are you talking about? He's like, why does this guy hate me?
Starting point is 01:42:22 You know what I'm? He did get all those All-Black tattoos. Yeah, yeah, he blacked it out. What's your thought about that? I'll probably butcher this right now, but I think it was somebody from maybe not Lent Biscuit, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:39 This has been happening. This is an age-old rock and roll thing. Ronnie Radkeek, my buddy from Fallin' In Reverse, has the blackout tats. There's another big band that does it. 21 pilot paints. There's a bunch of bands that do that on stage that just paint.
Starting point is 01:42:51 It's a thing. What he did it for, and I appreciate this, and I don't want to share his story. I'll let him share it. But this was more about a thing, him, he's transition. He's like,
Starting point is 01:43:03 it's not the word in this climate. Yeah, yeah, definitely. He's making a big change in his life. Machine Gun, Kelly's transitioning. No, no, that's, don't do that to me, Tyler. No, that's a joke. Oh, that is true. He's making big changes in his life.
Starting point is 01:43:16 He's like really trying to become a new person. Yeah. He's kind of in that, I remember when I did it. You know what I mean? He's done it before, but he's shedding that last bit of that old mentality away and I think
Starting point is 01:43:27 that was something to do with his tattoos. But Ronnie Raddke did it a couple years ago. You gotta have the right body. Yeah, you gotta have the right body. I think the first time I seen Ronnie do it, I was like, yeah, this is crazy. But hey, you know, I can also tell you I've thought about doing it.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I hate so many of my tattoos. Not everybody had the privilege of like getting tattoos they love like we were getting scratched on in Motel Sixes from a guy that made one out of them. Yeah, dude. one out of a guitar string and a boom box. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:57 It's like, you know, somebody's tattoos suck. You know what I'm saying? Hey, my tattooers is in town. Yeah, you got one in town next week? Next week.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Does he do cover up where? He'll do it. Yes. Man, I'm ready to start shooting over. He did all that covering up, all that tribal and stuff like that. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:12 you can see it peeking through in the open spots. That's fine. I'd let them do anything because I've thought about it too, man. I think it kind of good. There's parts to me, I wouldn't get the tattoo, but I think it kind of looks hard. I think it's Geister.
Starting point is 01:44:26 I'm not right. I respect. Man Willie is. There are fucking guys out here. No, no, not at all, bro. We'd love to hear the story behind the all black. Will's gotten... You hear me?
Starting point is 01:44:36 Will's gotten grumpy. He's got them too. And I hate to make you do this. Cat Bondi's blacked out. Like if he's trying to like cover up tats, there's also the procedures where you can get removed, you know? That shit hurts. So he went blacked out too.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I mean, that is a number. neck on that thing. So bad, and you think that goes hard. I think a certain spots. Like, I think like, if you had a piece of your form
Starting point is 01:45:01 that was all blocked out. There's another rock band. That's a piece of my form. I don't think it was Westman. You know what I mean? Some other rock man that did it to be blackout tattoo. He's got the rock and roll.
Starting point is 01:45:12 He's got the thinner cat, big piece body type. Is that Trace Cyrus? Did Trace Cyrus blackout too? I haven't been on social media in a while. Looks like Trace Cyrus over there to the left. Is that Trace? No, it's not true.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Jesus Christ. Hey, that's spooky. That's what that is. But I forgot who it was. The body mod thing. I don't know but the body mods. And I'm telling you, 21 pilots, there's been a lot of bands that paint for like, like shows.
Starting point is 01:45:38 So that's kind of always been a rock and roll thing. 21 pilots, car radio. That song, that music video goes so hard. 21 pilots slaps, period. Yeah. They're just fucking dope. I love it. An MC and a drummer.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Like, what a cool little two-man crew. You know what I'm saying? Gangster. Old school. Just like, yo, we don't need a lot. Their production's always crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Is it nuts? Their productions. How much thought process do you put into that with your production? Tons. I'm doing my first real arena tour this year.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I've done arenas and amphitheaters last year. But because you're going from an arena to an amphitheater, there's only one way you can build a stage in an amphitheater. It's the stage.
Starting point is 01:46:12 They're all pre-built. Yeah. There's no, you know what I mean? So because I'm doing all arenas now, I've got to like make some cool decisions. We'll talk about a lot of camera,
Starting point is 01:46:20 but I've got to make some like, becomes a canvas for you to a degree. You know what I mean? You got a 16,000, 20,000 seat arena that you're like, I can put a stage here. I can put something up here. I can do something here. I can have a light go here. You know, it's like it's cool.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Yeah, the bridge stone when you got in that golf cart to go the other side. Yeah. He's got to shit. He's got to get the light of it. Jelly. And I hit the pop up with the boom. Yeah. That did go crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:46:46 With that, what else? Yeah, what else are you working on? The album, new music, like I told you all, new music, most important thing. I want to talk about if I, I'm, I need to start talking about music again. I've been talking about, I told the jelly roll story for like two years
Starting point is 01:47:01 because nobody, you know, I was introducing myself to the world. And then I got, now I get caught up in like the headlines and like what's happening currently. Like, I need to just start talking about music.
Starting point is 01:47:11 It's time to start really talking about music. Yeah. With your new album, like how close are we? Man, it's done. I just need to figure out what songs. I'm keeping it.
Starting point is 01:47:21 130 songs. Yeah, the album's been. done. I just don't know what songs I'm putting on. Yeah. I'm that over. Is there like a number, a range that you're wanting to do on something this year? Because I think Morgan had it right. I think Morgan's feeding the consumption the right way. You know, I think that they dropped 36 songs last year. He's already teasing new singles, dropped like a four pack on YouTube, did the post single already. That post single is hard too. It's the song of the summer. That and Shiboozy or the song of the song.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Shaboozy, man. We were banging that on the way back from Atlanta. Bang. People hate on it too. The old country boys are like this shit. He just played live in East on Sunday night. Basement, right? Yeah, basement, which is good for him. I'm proud of him to have the song of the summer,
Starting point is 01:48:05 the biggest dream song in America right now, and to still go out and play clubs and shows your integrity. Yeah. Because it's like he knows he's got to learn the road. He's a great guy. Is he? Y'all texts me about him and I didn't know him much at the time. And I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:17 And then I got to really spend some time with him at the ACMs. He is, a great, great guy. Like young, charismatic, just handsome, fun, just good energy. So, ACMs, we ended up at this after, I had a little party after. And, you know, I'm old school, man. We do the no phones thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:40 So we're in there just, you know, we're doing our thing, right? We're having a good time. Yeah. And there's a moment where I look up and it's me, Kane Brown, playing against Jason Aldine and Post Malone and Beer Palm for like 10K or something. You know what I mean? Like it's like a real game and the whole,
Starting point is 01:48:57 the bar is full and everybody's there. Full disclosure and I hadn't shared this yet. I had never played Beer Palm, right? I mean, I didn't go to college or nothing. Did you play 10K in a game you don't know how to play? Well, I knew something most people. I knew Post was really good and I knew Kane was really good. And then I had to decipher as to which one was more competitive.
Starting point is 01:49:18 and in my heart, I knew it was Kane. Because Post is just a real love, not that Kane's not a loving guy, but Post is just like a real like, you know, he's a competitive guy when he plays, but he's fun. Kane is a fierce competitor.
Starting point is 01:49:30 You know what I'm saying? He's like, I didn't come here to have fun. I came to fucking beat y'all. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, I'm a Kane. You know what I'm saying? I'm in on this. And Kane was like, Post is good.
Starting point is 01:49:40 I'm good. Al Dean's mid, you're mid. And I was just like, all right, I'll take mid. And I'm thinking, I don't have never played. But I don't have disclosed this. Right. And I got the picture because Al Dean's photographer took a couple of pictures,
Starting point is 01:49:53 but it ended up being, I don't even know how I got Bunny Trail. Oh, Shibuzi, the time got here. So we're playing, we're having the best night of here, bog, and Shibuzi's just, he's like the life of the party. He's cutting in and throwing for posts. He's just fun. Everybody instantly loves him. Like, he's got that natural walks in the room and you're like, I like this guy.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Just naturally that thing. You know, like, he's a great guy, man. Did you end up winning the 10K? Yeah. But Kane did.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Fuck, I didn't do anything. Did you make any? I made three out of 13 or some. I did some. Kane carried me, though. But the next game, Kane stepped out and Shay Mooney stepped in and I dropped like 11 cups. Once I figured out what was going on, I bawled. No shit.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Yes. I'm instantly good at it. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just, you know. Maybe I was just high enough. It's just a lazy enough sport that works for me. You know what I'm saying? It's just fucking.
Starting point is 01:50:43 That is a while. I've never heard of beer pumping played for 10K. It's a real thing. It happens. And I know he posted had like a game show at one point, didn't he? He was like playing beer drinking games of people. Him and Kane were,
Starting point is 01:50:55 it was almost like watching a different language be spoken. Like the way they would talk about the symmetrics of the game. They'd be like, uh, he's like, you want to use one of them now. He's like, yeah, but I want to do a two, three, one, two. And he would set the cups up. You know what I'm talking about? Y'all are familiar with you.
Starting point is 01:51:11 I know I sound stupid. Two rewreck. It's a rebrand. Fire. I'm learning this all in real time. I haven't told it. They're going to learn this watching this. Let me get a zipper.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Let me get a zipper. They're going to learn this watching this. I had no clue. I just went along with it. Like, yeah, for sure. No, I played it.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Never played in my whole life. There's these brothers on Instagram, the ones that do that little side I think. Yeah. They do a whole deal about beer pong and how all the aggressive setups you can do about the three, two, one. Give you that your mother's daughter. Yeah. Hey, those cups.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Touch those cups. No, we did a Mario flag. Yeah, there was a good one. A Mario flag was a fun one. What is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Two and three? I don't remember. Dude, now keep in mind, I'm learning this game. It's got to be like a three sideway. At 2.30 in the morning. After I just won a fucking award,
Starting point is 01:51:54 I'm cranked. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I am fucking, I have, the lights are all, but nobody was home. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:52:01 Definitely one of those. What's the Mario, Jack? Say that again? What's the Mario flag? It's got to be the three with two extra. Like if there's five,
Starting point is 01:52:10 you know what I mean? Two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm going to take that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:17 my back pocket. A little pointy flag. That's a nice little one. Yeah, no, I said, because Kane called for it. Kane said, give me the Mario flag and Post looked disgusting. And I was like, this is deep. This is deep. Right then, I looked at Al Dean. I was like, I hope Al Dean knows as much as I know. And I could tell he knew some shit. And I was like, I really don't know what's going on. Hey, we don't keep it close to your vest, though.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Keep the cars close? Sure. All of us. Hey, you heard him, give him the Mario flag. Pure confidence. Yeah. Sounds like we should reach out to Kane and Post Malone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:47 For beer games. For beer Olympics? Yeah. Beer games. Excuse me. Beer games. I keep calling it the B.O. Oh, we can't call it the B.O.
Starting point is 01:52:53 No more? No, well, the real O is this year. Oh. So I feel like there's some copyright things. Yeah. So it can really come after it since it's the year. So official titers, beer games championship of the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:04 How do y'all feel about it? I know y'all've had some drop, some come, some go. How's it balancing out? I think based on the last couple of years and how we're going to release it. How we're going to roll this one out. Yeah. There's a lot more to want to win to it. It's going to be.
Starting point is 01:53:17 it's going to be so much more than just drinking. Like the first night there's going to be the gambling, the Dana White, the tunnel of chaos type vibe. Wow. We have it themed out. Yeah. We're doing the whole high roller room and we're like all bustling with the boys, all that stuff. So it'll be really cool
Starting point is 01:53:33 and then obviously your concert at the end. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's going to be. The big banger, dog. Yeah, the beer games will be out there by that pool. Everything, stuff's shrubs getting put in. Oh, dope. So y'all, the beer games will happen at the pool and then they'll clear it out. let patrons in. Let them get after.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Yeah, we just have one little section of the pool. The pool is still in Republic. But it'll be high enough so people can't see in. It's going to be a nice little setup. So dope. I love Red Rocks anyways.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I've only been there once for y'all because I went to go meet you and then I didn't meet you at the other spot but I went in there and one immediately. Me and Cody exposed one in there and at one. Hey, that was trying to chase that guy out. I'm like, oh, I'm at Red Rock. You're coming over?
Starting point is 01:54:11 He's like, yeah, I'm coming. Three hours go by. And then it hits me up and it was like, come to Caesars. I was like, all right, I guess jelly's not coming. Literally get in the car, I'm halfway to Caesar. He's like, hey, where you at? I just got here.
Starting point is 01:54:22 I was like, oh, fuck, dude. This is where I'm at. Yeah. So we came and met us up. Jelly roll time. Yeah, I was on time today. Yeah, I was going to say we're joking about the times and stuff in our group chat yesterday. You said, like, we go to 12 30 and expect one or 12 to expect 12.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Yeah, we'll go at 12 and we'll fully expect to be there at 12. Yeah. These are early calls for me. Early calls. How is your sleep? Is your sleep changed? No. Just the routine when you wake up is changed.
Starting point is 01:54:46 The routine has changed. And what I am now willing to do is I used to be totally anti this, but days like today, I sacrifice a little sleep to make sure I got my morning in. Yeah. And I'm okay with that. I used to be like, sleep's more important than that. I was like, you're going to die in your sleep of obesity. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:55:04 Hey, the sleep is so important. Yeah, yeah. It's like, nah, I'm fucking losing the weights more important. So let me fucking quit making that. I'm eating a cookie like, oh, I got to sleep, you know. Fuck off. Sleep's important. Brother, you have slept enough.
Starting point is 01:55:21 It's so backwards. It's legit like a religious thing for you. You got to do it every single day. I love that, dude. That's fucking awesome. I'll take like one day off a week or even then I'll still do one of it. I'll probably do something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:55:33 Or I'll take one or two days off. I'll take two to three days off the walking portion. Yeah. Just because I'm still so big that if I try to walk six days a week and it would just beat me to the breaks. So many pairs of socks? Yes. You got to toss those.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Those are two a day. Those are staky taste days. The worst part is my wife put me on blast. She immediately commented under it when it was going viral. She was like, he also does this with shirts. You got to love that. She was like shirts and boxers. That's all true.
Starting point is 01:55:59 You love how Bunny just doesn't give a fuck about the noise. Bunny doesn't care about that bitch. She's maybe the number one savage in the world. Yes. Dude, she's the greatest woman ever and she doesn't care about it. First of all, she will clap back. Be careful coming for Bunny. She will fire.
Starting point is 01:56:13 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no doubt. said something about me. I thought it was the coolest thing ever what he said. Bill Maher. Did you not read this? No. You pull up the New York post what Bill Maher said about Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Please, I'm sorry not to tell you what to do, Jack. This is fucking really cool. And just knowing and going off about how badass your wife is, like, you, I have such that vibe about her to where I'm not even nervous when I text. Like, hey, we're trying to hit up Jelly Roll. This is what we're trying to get done. What do you know? What can you tell me?
Starting point is 01:56:38 She's like responding. Yeah. I'm about to go on a podcast. I'll hit you after. It hits me after. She just handles her business, bro. She's all business man. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 01:56:48 And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 01:56:58 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 01:57:22 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies. I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud.
Starting point is 01:58:18 But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.
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Starting point is 01:59:01 and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsClyce on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicleaf 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:59:38 So he did a New York Post article. and one of the headlines of it was no, that's not the one. It'll be Bill Maher, New York Post. But there's a quote in there where he says, we're all jelly roll now. We're all sloppy, complicated, and contradictory. And I thought that was awesome
Starting point is 02:00:01 because he referenced it to like 80%, 50% of Democrats, 60% of Democrats own a gun or live with a gun owner and two thirds of Republicans. agree for legalization of marijuana. He's like, at least Jelly Rolls honest about his contradictions. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:17 He's like, so the world's kind of, I wish the world would be more like Jelly Roll. He was kind of saying, but like, but it was a real backhanded fucking compliment, right? He said it in a mean way, but if you pick it a part of it. He's also a comedian, though. Yeah. It's like, Mia Solz laughed about it because Solz was like,
Starting point is 02:00:31 he said you were like every man. I was like, exactly. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. You're the relatable guy in the middle. My wife immediately shot at him. she went straight online and lit Bill Maher up. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to let you do you, but I think he was right.
Starting point is 02:00:50 You know what I'm saying? Go ahead and cook. I'm not going to get in your way. But to be honest with you. I think it's all good. Yeah. Dude, he's got a show too. He did one with Bill Burr.
Starting point is 02:00:58 And Bill Burr puts him in a blender. Yep, it's the next one down. You'll see it. Or did you say my name in that one? Yeah, yeah. It's right. It says, we're all jelly roll starting here. We're all jelly roll now.
Starting point is 02:01:08 We're all jelly roll now. We're sloppy, complicated, and contradictory. Two-thirds of Republican voters support weed legalization of 41% of Democrats own or live with someone who owns a gun. Miss Marvel is Pakistani. The winner of the last two NBA dunk contest is white. The new captain America is black and Spider-Man is black in Puerto Rican. So anyways, he said, why guys have won the dunk contest? Yeah. We gotta put that up. We gotta take that. Anyway, dude, jelly roll. I'm gonna keep up with that dunk, the dunk contest. has gotten so, yeah, that is sick.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Will just saw two white guys went down. His brain went towards that. Cooper DeGine? Yeah, I got to go this year. White guys are making a comeback in sports. Yeah. And that's not any type of way other than, hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Making a comeback in sports. He said, that's not in any other kind of way. I'm not trying to be that guy, but that's kind of dope. Sitting here as a white guy, I'm like, all right, cool. We are athletic. I like that. We're not dying. I know.
Starting point is 02:02:06 We had a corner and get drafted in the first round of the drafts. You see that? No second. Oh, you're right, because I forgot. We got duped. Yeah, we got duped. We got duped bad. Yeah, I thought he was.
Starting point is 02:02:17 So close shit. So good. I mean, that is crazy. That a corner is a white corner in the NFL right now. That's the craziest shit ever. I hope it kills. I knew the new world you're living in. We can't talk about it.
Starting point is 02:02:29 I get out of here. I'm going to put this thing in reverse. We're going to get the fuck out of this subject right now. I would appreciate it if we got away from this one. I was like, shout out, Max. Shout out Max Crossman. That's what I got for this segment. Shout out to my homie, Max.
Starting point is 02:02:45 You know what I'm saying? No doubt. No doubt. So Pittsburgh's good. Cleveland's good. You hate Detroit. Let's get into that. He defended more than Wallin.
Starting point is 02:02:55 What else can I say on here? My public says told me not to say. You guys can't say words now? You know, they're wrong. I don't stuff off on the roof before. You classic Cubs is like, I don't know Will and Taylor saw this, but I guess Bunny caught Bailey sneaking out on y'all's cameras
Starting point is 02:03:14 and they're just like crawling through the grass. Yeah, she's got like 8 million views. Yeah, she did a barrel roll like snows in the army. Yeah, dude. Yeah. This, this, my house is funny, man. Watch this. Then they just.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Poof, a little crouch tiger crawl. Oh, they think they're getting out of there. They really thought. Now watch the disappointment. Damn. Nope. Security's sending him right back home. That is awesome.
Starting point is 02:03:46 We got security outside. I don't know what she was thinking. So she gets down the driveway and he's like, yo, the fuck are y'all going? You know what I'm saying? I've seen you on every camera. And he's so gangster.
Starting point is 02:03:58 He goes, I won't tell him till tomorrow. Get your ass back up. Oh, shit. That is hilarious. Yeah, man. Dude, this formula. It's a 16.
Starting point is 02:04:08 year old. The farm. You know what you got cooking here? 500 acres. Me and Bunny just went to look at it. I actually was, I just, the call I was having while I was 10 minutes late,
Starting point is 02:04:18 I was here on time, but I was talking about this farm. 500 acres? We're going to snipe it up? It's pretty much done. What are we going to do with it? I'm torn, man. We're going to put the bus.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Yeah, wherever y'all won't. The way it's divided is there's three ridges divided by two creeks like this. an upper and a lower and there's three entrances to the property I think the side with two entrances I'm going to build a family compound
Starting point is 02:04:46 and on the other hundred acres I'm going to subdivide and make a you know make a plate no shit you better go off on that property huh I think so hey that is nice I think so got some hunting
Starting point is 02:04:59 look at it's beautiful man some hunting land up there man 500 acres cop dude I cried it's unreal it's like I mean that is it's the dream that is unreal man That is awesome.
Starting point is 02:05:08 I have a rich uncle. His name is Uncle Beaufort, man. He's been really good to him in my whole life. He just made really good decisions. Owned a dry cleaning company. He saved his money, right? He bought like four or five hundred acres in Williamson County 30 years ago. So you know what that's worth now.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Crazy. And when I was a kid, the first time I ever shot a gun, I went and shot it there. And I remember leaving. And leaving, and I asked my father, I go, man, how come we don't have one of those? He was like, well, just wasn't in our cars. But if you ever want one, you just got to. You got to plan for it and make the right financial decisions to get it. Ever since then I won't want to one.
Starting point is 02:05:43 I was like, I want a farm. I killed my first quail out there, learn how to ride a four-wheel around on that farm. You know, my dad, me and my dad go out there all the time. And Buford didn't even live out there back then. It was something else he believed in was like he bought the farmer's the dream. He just let it, you know, had like a little farmhouse on. He was just like one day.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Yeah. You know, now him and his wife live out there. And that's where, you know, the end of their life. They're in their late 70s. But it's really cool. So, yeah, just getting to do it was like, yeah, this is it. but if I keep being successful, I'm going to build three or four houses
Starting point is 02:06:10 and a studio and move my whole family and have a little jelly roll neighborhood and then I'm going to subdivide the other side and make a little play. That's awesome, man. It's cool. It's cool to see Bunny get excited because when we pulled in
Starting point is 02:06:20 and she was like, kind of lacklesser. She's also from the desert. Yeah. Like, you got to remember that you're from Texas but went to school in Michigan. Arizona, but went to school in Michigan. Yeah, Arizona went to school in Michigan.
Starting point is 02:06:33 You know a little bit about the desert. So you get this too, but you got to see more of the green inside of America. Yeah. She grew up in a desert. You know what I mean? So like her still,
Starting point is 02:06:42 the first time we did a show in Indiana, I remember her filming the trees. Because he was like, yo. Somebody's first time. And you all got to come see this. Somebody's first time seeing snow and just having all those bullshit pictures in your phone.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Yeah. Yeah. Her palm with like a little bit of snowing it. Yeah. That's funny. So she kind of gave in it. But when we got up on that first ridge and it just opened up,
Starting point is 02:07:02 it was like the light of God. Oh. And she, I just watched her. She said, we got to do this. And I was like, I told you, man. We turned the gator off.
Starting point is 02:07:13 No noise pollution. Couldn't hear a highway. You know, you don't hear nothing, but just nature. Genuine nature. I was like, this is what we need. Hell yes. That's awesome, man. It's the dream, baby.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Before we get off here, anything for us to look forward to at CMA Fest? You're going to make another speech? Well, I can tell you this at CMA Fest. I'm going to bring out a guest. I'm going to have a real special set. It's going to be my first time playing the big stage at the stadium. Last year I got to play the satellite stage. So it's going to be a really, really, really big thing.
Starting point is 02:07:46 And we're playing Saturday. We've got the best night. I'm hosting the whole thing for TV. Yeah. And Ashley McBride are. We're hosting it because they do CMA Fest becomes a TV show. And we're hosting it. No shit.
Starting point is 02:07:57 That is awesome. We had our call the other day. Our script writing call. It's fun. It's cool. That's awesome. She's fun, too. I don't know if y'all ever met Ashty McBride.
Starting point is 02:08:04 She's a real badass. I don't think so. I've not met her. Unless that may be, has you been one of the softball games? We'll be doing that. Actually, by the time this comes out,
Starting point is 02:08:13 the day after, you're, so we had a great time for softball game. Yeah, we had a great time to softball games. This is a great week. So this is CMA Fest week. I don't think they're live stream my set,
Starting point is 02:08:24 but it will be on the show portion that will come out in a couple of months. And if you're in Nashville, come see us, they're at the stadium all weekend. It's a really, really come see us. Nissan Stadium,
Starting point is 02:08:33 Jelly Roll, Hardy. I mean, dude, I can't even root the lineups. insane. It's CMA. It's the biggest lineup on Earth. Hardy's had a banger come out too. Keith Irvin's on my night. Yeah, Psychos. Crazy. Goes nuts.
Starting point is 02:08:45 His whole new, his whole new project is awesome. He literally does it the way he wants to do it. It's so cool to watch. Yeah, Kelsey, Brothers Osborne, Cody Johnson, my boy Cody Johnson. He's fucking one of the greatest dudes ever. Ash McBride, Parker, Mega Moroni, John Party, Carly, Thomas Rick, Keith Urban, Warren, Laney, Bailey, Bailey, Bailey. Zimmerman, it's a big weekend. Yeah, that is nuts.
Starting point is 02:09:10 That is going to be fun. It is a big, and there's a bunch of special guests you won't see that are all throughout there, man. What's out of Tennessee? Uh, I don't know if there are any of them are from Tennessee.
Starting point is 02:09:22 I think these are all some Georgia dudes. Trying to figure out, trying to figure out who could be that lineup. Yeah. Yeah. But this ain't even me. This is like, my guest is different.
Starting point is 02:09:29 I got a different thing going on. But what the festival itself does guess, like there's people that are going to come out that you're going to be like, no way I thought this. dude was going to be here. No shit. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:09:39 They do it right. Dude, when is... I've been going to this since I was a kid, by the way. They used to call it fanfare and did it at the fairgrounds. You just stood in line and waited for autographs. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. No pictures or nothing.
Starting point is 02:09:50 You didn't have a camera. You just went up, the dude looked at you, signed his name, and handed it to. And now you're doing the best night in the stadium. That's all time. That is so cool, man. Talk to me about Ernest, dude. We know Ernest has the most talent in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:04 When is my man going to get his shot? and be like triple platinum, number one song, when's that coming for him? It's on the way. I love it. It's so close. Ernest is so close to it as an artist.
Starting point is 02:10:16 The thing about Ernest is, is he serves two masters. Ernest is still writing the biggest hits we're hearing. You know what I mean? Yeah. But the thing about Ernest is he's still servicing hits to everybody else. You know what I mean? So he's serving two masters.
Starting point is 02:10:30 He's still the go-to guy in town to bring it to a room if you need to get one across the line. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, a lot of the bills too. So he's kind of struggling. I tell you what I am trying to do
Starting point is 02:10:41 and you should harass him about this. We should corner him. I'm trying to bring them on, fuck it, I'll say it here. We are adding 15, 17 shows to my tour. My first arena tour was scheduled to be 42 cities
Starting point is 02:10:58 and they're already almost completely sold out. So we're adding like another 15, but this won't come out for another few weeks, which now y'all know though it's coming. But for those 15 dates, I couldn't keep, Warren and Alexander because they had already had previous commitments for the extra 17.
Starting point is 02:11:13 It might be 20 dates between us. No shit. Yeah. And so I'm calling Ernest like come. He's like, I can't tour the way you tour. He really anchors himself down into a normal life Monday through Wednesday. Like he'll go write songs, but he's there with Delaney. They're gardening.
Starting point is 02:11:28 He's with rhyme and he's like super dad, super husband. He lives like, he's like fucking, you know, Batman, right? You know what I'm saying? It's like, and then he puts on the Batman outfit on Thursdays and goes and he, He's Ernest Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When Jellyroll leaves for a tour, kiss Delaney and Ryman or put him on the bus, but you're not coming home for 45 days.
Starting point is 02:11:47 You know what I'm saying? It's like, I just do it different. You know what I'm saying? Ernest is like, I can't do that. I was like, quit being a pus. I'll have a nurse. We'll get IVs. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:11:55 We'll be okay, dude. If I can do it, you can do it. So we need to corner him and get him on this. Get him on board. It'd be huge, dude. And I'm like, do it with your friend, man. Why not? You do the reason he tours with Morgan.
Starting point is 02:12:06 It's the reason I'm going out and doing five shows with Morgan this summer. So with your friends, man. It's the reason I open up for Eric Church all the time. It don't matter how big I am. I want to go be with my friends. Yeah. You know what I mean? Why in the, from a game standpoint of music,
Starting point is 02:12:19 why wouldn't Ernest start keeping those hits for himself? Um, I think he's just got such a good flow over there. And I think Ernest ain't in a rush to be a celebrity. To be honest. I think Ernest is just like, man, I'm just, he's going to do it his way. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:34 He's not going to do any of the, another part of it too if we're going to be frank with each other is the travel. You know what I mean? Like he's really, he really is honest with me when he's like,
Starting point is 02:12:42 yo man, like I like being just a normal dude three days a week. I go right from nine in the morning to three in the afternoon. I stop by losers and have lunch, drink a couple beers,
Starting point is 02:12:51 go home to my wife. He's like, I got a really cool thing. Then I can go be a rock star with my best friends on the weekends. You know what I mean? Where it's like,
Starting point is 02:12:57 I'm like, I'm like, oh, we're doing, busting with the boys this day, cool. Well, let's squeeze in Kimmel while we're on that side of the coast and let's do this while we're out there. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:13:04 Like I'm just in constant like, you know, I'm more like Burt Kreischer. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like in constant go mode. Yeah. So I think Ernest is really cool just writing songs. And he, I love that Ernest is willing to die on the hill of his own artistic sound.
Starting point is 02:13:21 He doesn't want to make commercial records. He loves making old country Roberts Western World kind of records. Yeah. He's not looking for something to get played at Dirk's Bentley's. He's looking for something to get played at Roberts. You know what I mean? He just loves the old feeling of this old sad. I was listening to it last night.
Starting point is 02:13:37 That record with him and Laney is just so old school country. I could if I would, but I can't. So I won't, but I won't. You know what I'm saying? Like, just fucking, what a fucking genius, you know? He really is so, he's so talented. And that's real, Taylor. They don't joke.
Starting point is 02:13:53 When Garth Brooks said he started that radio station so people could hear country the way it's intended to hear, I'm dealing with this now that I've become an international artist. you get outside of America, they immediately won't play anything on any radio station or playlisting in other countries that has a pedal steel on it. Why is that?
Starting point is 02:14:11 You got a fiddle or a steel guitar, it's just two countries. Really? Yeah. That's a true story. And Ernest his whole album has fiddles and steel guitars. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:14:21 For me, it was like, I took the fiddle off of need of favor and just sent it. I was like, okay, cool. We'll just send it without the da-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da. Which is actually a fiddle with voices over. it but there was a fiddle behind it doing it room room room and we from need a favorite so we had to
Starting point is 02:14:36 take it all or international radio was like we won't play it yeah that is wild all the all the nuances of uh of music and the business side jack you got a tear talk yeah the tier talk there's a couple options um one was thrown around which i feel like it's just kind of a low hang for like top three artists which i think we're better than that another one that we would have to take some time and think about, but you could create three fictional band names, and then you give, like, an idea of what the band
Starting point is 02:15:08 is, and then you rank them, like, hypothetically, like, your favorite... Our own made-up band? Yeah. That's interesting. That would be a hard-tier talk. That'd be a hard-tier talk. I know. That's something I thought we need... You might need a little more preparation for. Or you go best
Starting point is 02:15:23 condiments. Ooh. I believe it or not, Any one of those three can work for me. I'm an artist. I've got three state bands, and I've got three fucking, I got three artists ball time.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Here's a question while. James Jim and Bob, baby. James Jim and Bob. If you can write a song with anybody dead or alive, hit record, number one, who you take it. Dead or alive. Dead or alive.
Starting point is 02:15:54 He's still living. I would love to sit down and watch the way James, Taylor write songs. Why is that? It's just different, man. You know, he taught himself the guitar, so he plays, like, weird shapes, like, different shapes than most people play.
Starting point is 02:16:09 And his songwriting's just style has always been so abstract. He's just, he's my favorite songwriter. Him, Jim Crocey, Bob Dylan, those are my favorite songwriters of all time. So I'd love to sit down and, and I think he would give me more. I'd love to see how Bob writes a song, but I could imagine Bob kind of being, you know, just kind of. He's so elusive and doesn't talk. I couldn't see him being real engaging.
Starting point is 02:16:32 Yeah. Where I could imagine Jim looking at me like, what do you think if we turn it around like this? And we went, you know, I'd love to hear how he structures out his song. You want to your condiments, Will. We can do condiments. I don't know if I'm ready yet, but I can be ready. Do you have yours? Do you know yours?
Starting point is 02:16:46 I can probably do my condiments. Conuments is like mustard mayo. Yeah, we're not doing like chick-fil-a sauce or like any like commercial kind of sauce. It's your strict condiments you find in the side of your fridge. Where do we stand on dressing? Is that a condiment? I would say that if you're trying to put ranch in there, I would, I'd let that. All right.
Starting point is 02:17:06 I'm ready. You just needed the ranch. That's all I need to hear. Yes, absolutely. I'll go first since we're still working on it. My tier. Are you Googling condiments right now, Will? Please don't, please don't interrupt my process.
Starting point is 02:17:23 But yes. Sometimes you have you from the hip. Okay. My tier three is going to go to the honey mustard. I think a lot of times It's a great dip in sauce You can put it on a sandwich It's got a lot of different lanes
Starting point is 02:17:35 It can live in Honey mustard to me is Fantastic My tier two Is gonna go to barbecue sauce Just As long as we've all been alive You get a chicken sandwich
Starting point is 02:17:46 And you throw a little bit of barbecue sauce on it You just not There's no way to get it better You know It's just a nice barbecue chicken sandwich Boom In and out Southwest chicken sandwich
Starting point is 02:17:55 There's going to be a spicy barbecue on there So many different varieties and taste and ingredients, whether it's vinegar or mustard or tomato. You have your bases, but barbecue sauce goes hard. So much so that there's Colts, like there's Kansas City barbecue, there's Texas barbecue, there's Memphis barbecue, North Carolina barbecue, where everybody stands. What's up? Nashville.
Starting point is 02:18:16 Nashville barbecue. Everyone plants their flag on the ground. They say ours is the best. What's your favorite barbecue? I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?
Starting point is 02:18:27 we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 02:18:42 So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
Starting point is 02:19:05 where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
Starting point is 02:19:25 This morning, the internet lost its mind. Lights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
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Starting point is 02:20:59 Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My favorite barbecue is going to be a honey barbecue. I just lean towards a sweet more than anything else. I also am a big fan of the Alabama White. Alabama White is... Alabama White is the slab.
Starting point is 02:21:30 It is the hair. I think it keeps Jim and Nixon business alone. I'm a little muffins thing. And my tier one is going to go to my God tier, which is ranch. I think there's two kinds of people. There's people that enjoy ranch, and there's people that are dead to me that enjoy blue cheats. And those people can go fuck themselves.
Starting point is 02:21:46 No disrespect, but disrespect, ranch is, to me, the best condiment you can have dipping. I love that list. Thank you. Love that list. Oh yeah, you got to write my list. You're right, you're right, you're right with a word. Electric. Mm.
Starting point is 02:22:07 I got to say incredible. It's a good list. That's a strong list. Thanks, boys. It made me rethink my list. I'm glad you went first. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:15 I'm saying. That was my heart. That was purely me. Yeah. Because I was going to go ketchup mustard mannice. Yeah. You know what I mean? But we would have said 12 years old.
Starting point is 02:22:25 Yeah. Yeah. I will say that. Oh, yeah, sorry. Got to get the boys' opinion in the back. Hyphenated, mouth watering. Oh, solid. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Okay. Okay, Mitch. Bring him back solid, huh? Mine, dude, this is so hard. But you kind of sold me on barbecue sauce. Barbecue sauce was in my list, but I moved up one because of the range and variety that you have in barbecue sauce. You can do so many different things with it. So my tier three is now going to be honorable mention ranch.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Ranch didn't make it. Ranch didn't make it. Oh. And blue cheese is on his tier talk. That's the end of butter. No, blue cheese. No, blue cheese. Hey, listen, listen, I fit with your mold.
Starting point is 02:23:15 Blue cheese is dead to me. I hate blue cheese. But I do, everybody talks about you get a mature taste. Like, as you get older, you'll start enjoying it more. So we'll fuck yourself. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, that's the most disrespectful thing you can say. But my tier three, based on how often I use it is hot sauce.
Starting point is 02:23:29 my tier three is hot sauce. I feel like there's a variety of hot sauces just like there is barbecue. But the fact of like, you know, using barbecue sauce with marinade and just slathering ribs on it, all the different styles where you hit the different parts of the country, that is what put barbecue sauce now at two instead of hot sauce. Because hot sauce, I like to put it on stuff, but barbecue sauce, you can kind of overdo it.
Starting point is 02:23:51 So tier three, hot sauce, tier two, barbecue sauce, my tier one condiment, my mouse watering, just thinking about it. mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise, bro. I love it. Damn near on everything. And I feel like it's a good foundational condiment that you can even create with other condiments. Like if you want an aoli, you're using mayo to mix it in there with saracha, hot sauce. You can mix it with ketchup. Love mixing mayonnaise with ketchup. But my number one condiment is mayonnaise. Mayonnaise, barbecue sauce hot sauce
Starting point is 02:24:24 shout out to ranch hyphenated plot twist Mitch Jack almost gritty
Starting point is 02:24:38 gretty jell you got a word to rate my list I'm having to look up condiments now I see why you did it it's actually plot twistings here
Starting point is 02:24:48 yeah it kind of jogs your memory a little bit because there's stuff you're like oh I didn't think of that as a conomit's That's actually really fire. That's what happened to me with the hot sauce. Because that would probably be my tier one. And I knew that because you're a hot sauce lover.
Starting point is 02:24:58 I know. And it's got the same argument of read your three to me again for I give you a one worder. My honorable mentor is ranch. My tier three is hot sauce. Tier two is barbecue sauce. My tier one is mayonnaise. Okay.
Starting point is 02:25:12 I'm a rad solid. I'm a rad solid. Okay. Rad solid with the homie. That's a solid list. Pressure's on. Before I start this. Jelly Roll's favorite condiments.
Starting point is 02:25:21 I've got to ask this question first. Because I just read a couple of hours. and this is a big point of contingency that can change everything. Okay, go ahead. There are people that qualify peanut butter as a condiment. That I almost can't allow that because that would be in my left.
Starting point is 02:25:36 Will, I will lean on Will because he is a peanut butter die. That's his shit. Peanut butter. Okay. Have you ever done a peanut butter sandwich with chili? Dipped in chili? Peanut butter is considered a condiment. Oh, the internet will.
Starting point is 02:25:51 With that being said, I got to stand by my left. Start it through. With that being said, boys, I'm going to go in with ranch number three, because I think we can all agree ranch is ranch. I'm going to pick hot sauce over barbecue today just because I love a good hot sauce. But if peanut butter is for sure a condiment, it's by number one by country mouth, it's the greatest condiment that's ever invented ever.
Starting point is 02:26:21 And this is a little deeper because if that's considered a conoment because it's spreadable, that also means Nutella and everything in that family. All kind of nut butters. You know what I'm saying? You're trying to claim all the nut butters right now. All I'm saying, listen, if we could claim the 30 different kind of barbecue sauce. No question. No question.
Starting point is 02:26:36 You know what I'm saying? My head went too. Yeah, it's like there is, you know, there's maple syrup, almond butter, there's cinnamon almond butter. It's like, you know what I mean? Oh, Dave Brick. God, damn. If you ever had a peanut butter sandwich dipped in chair?
Starting point is 02:26:50 Now, honorable mention, here's a hot one too. You ready for this? Salsa. I want that question. They're so bad. Salsa was on a couple of lists and I was thinking about it. Even guacamole, but I thought guacamole is a little bit of a stretch. Yeah, that's like a side.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Have you ever had a peanut butter sandwich dipped in chili? No. Are they fired? Insane, bro. You love peanut butter like I think you do. Oh, God. You're going to love this combination. See you when he was talking?
Starting point is 02:27:13 You're going to love that combination. Godly, the greatest sandwich ever. Dude. I would rate that in two words, almost perfect. You didn't have mayo, so that's why I had to kind of, it's, But that peanut butter at the top, great pool. Thank you. I'm sick about mine.
Starting point is 02:27:27 I was proud of myself. I'm going to take yours and say it. That bread looks like this was a post of yours. It's so big days. It looks like it's missing a little peanut butter, though. Peanut butter is in the sandwich. I put it on both sides. I put it on both sides.
Starting point is 02:27:43 It's a little light in the ass in the middle, isn't it? I'm just saying, man. I will say I had a meal an hour before that, so a part of me was a little already full. But you probably just ate that for the pitcher then. I couldn't wait through some chili cooking when I got home yesterday. He wasn't ready for two more hours. Oh, this was yesterday? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Oh, that was that photo yesterday? Yeah, that was yesterday, bro. That's funny, man. I love it, man. One year I had Charles just, she's like, she wanted to cook for me. And she's like, what? I want to make you whatever you want to have for your meal on your birthday. And I said chili and peanut butter sandwiches.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Simple man, baby. Is that Charles chili? That one? Yeah. That one is Audrey's. It looks gas. Dude, it is. She dumped some.
Starting point is 02:28:25 cream cheese in it. God. I was going to say it's got that color too. By the way. Cream cheese, sour cream. Yeah. Could it, could have easily been honorable mentions.
Starting point is 02:28:35 I'll take yours incredible. Wow. Cream cheese. Yeah. Bro. Yeah. When you bring spreadables into the mix, whoa,
Starting point is 02:28:43 that changes all the condiments. This is a, this makes you want to hit that fucking pipe again. Yeah. Right. Town on something crazy. I got some out there fired in. We'll hit one more before you.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Yeah. I catch you, always. Because that was. was that first 30 minutes of this podcast. I was on the moon for a little bit. I kind of came to you at my piss. I was like, where have I been for the last hour?
Starting point is 02:29:03 I literally said like, what have you done this past year? Yeah. For what it's worth. Like, he's like, oh, my office. When we started it, I was thinking, this might be the shortest podcast ever. We might just chill. You were like, so what do you want to talk about? And I still.
Starting point is 02:29:18 So you know you're like, you know how you have boys. You're like, so what have you even fucking done recently? I've seen you everywhere. I'm sure you want to promote something. I do love y'all, man, and I love when I get to come on here and hang out with y'all. This is a blast. I've truly, truly, this is why this is always a no-brainer. And bro, I'm sure I speak for all of us when I said.
Starting point is 02:29:39 Seeing your ascension has been, we've been so proud about everything. Even when your documentary and Hulu came out and that was like the beginning of everything. Yes, yes. It was, it's been so cool to watch you and just see the dude staying the exact same all the way through when people are seeing your personality and be able to appreciate who you. you are and knowing that person before all this, we're all proud of you, man. This is unbelievable.
Starting point is 02:29:59 Thank you, man. I love y'all. Nobody hesitates to drop a link whether Jack finds a tweet, something where jelly is popping off on the internet. Yo, dude, Jack has single-handedly kept me relevant on Twitter the last two years. Seriously. Anytime I have a jelly roll moment go fucking viral, I can always, you know, you see where it goes back to?
Starting point is 02:30:17 Yeah. And it's always him. You know what I'm just saying? The very origin is Jack McPherson. Yeah, the very origin is always Jack. I love it, man. We appreciate you coming on. Love y'all, brother.
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Starting point is 02:32:04 Do you want to talk context first? Because we just jump back on the bus. Yeah, so Bunny, but, no, we'll just, you can put this, y'all know how you, I don't want to tell the story because you asked by my daughter, Sweet 16. That's how to start. Taylor, when I was a kid, nobody came to anything I did.
Starting point is 02:32:18 I was not a popular kid. I'll never forget. I mean, I passed out the RSVPs with the free candy in it to come to my birthday party. My mother would make a table for 30 kids. Not a kid would show up. Damn. I've carried that trauma with me my whole life, right? So, like, when I announce a tour, I'm nervous.
Starting point is 02:32:35 Like, is this going to be the tour of people quit buying tickets to give a fuck that I'm doing this? Like, it really bums me out. Bailey comes to me and goes, I want to do a sweet 16 party. Comes to Bunny. And I'm like, no. Absolutely not. because Bailey's had a couple of parties that went similar in mine when I was young. And I was like, I'm telling you, man, we're sitting this kid up.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Like, we're going to put all this money. You're going to have this big party. And I was the negative voice table. And I want to share this story on his potting with y'all because y'all are fathers. I hope you learned from this. I was so against it. And kicking and screaming, it was so hard to get put together. She put it together.
Starting point is 02:33:11 And then I was like, well, the good news is we have a big family. You know, but what I've learned is, and this is the hardest part of life, you can pay for the best party ever, you can plan the best party ever, and you can have 45 family members show up. But you can't plan on 15 or 16-year-old showing up. You just never know what I mean? It's like, so I was just so nervous for Bailey.
Starting point is 02:33:36 And to the point I mean, I hadn't been that nervous for something in a while, like stomach hurting the day of. Dude, it was a blast. I was so. wrong. I carried that fear for four weeks, that anxiety for four weeks about this party. I was so stressed. I cried about it a couple times. I was upset. I was worried for. She wasn't getting no RSVPs at first. I was like, this is just not going to go. And even then, it was like a typical high school
Starting point is 02:34:03 party. We walked in with like 20 RSVPs. So I was like, you know what? That's good. You know what I mean? But I was like, we need to make sure we got the family here to fill the room up. Yeah. Dude, by 9 o'clock at night you could tell the pin location was getting dropped. All you seen was car after car. It ended up with like hundreds. Kids from other schools, it turned to one of those parties. No shit. Yeah, it turned into like one of them.
Starting point is 02:34:28 Listen, I left. Yeah. How about that? I mean, I looked at my wife. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and she was like, I don't think we got no business here. I was like, me neither. We had security there.
Starting point is 02:34:37 I was like, we know they're not going to get too crazy. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was like, let that run its course, dude. And it was the, thank you for even asking. I'm glad we got to bring it back on here. It was the coolest thing to see. see and experience.
Starting point is 02:34:47 And what I realized early in the night was, the real lesson for me was before one teenager showed up, the whole family was there. And I was like, if not a kid shows up, it's going to be a great night. You know what I mean? Like, it was just such a cool party, man. And it taught me a lot about not projecting, we accidentally project our shit on our children.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Right. You know what I mean? And I never really rapped that. Roos still really young. You know what I mean? But think about this in the years to come. Because at a place that I had fell short, I had projected that on my own. daughter. You know what I mean? And it was just really cool to see that turn around and actually be such a heartfelt moment. And as a shameless plug,
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