Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Kenny Dillingham On Why ASU Is His Dream Job & Why Tradition Doesn't Matter In College Football

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

Recorded: April 15th 2023 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, the boys were on the road for their 2023 Spring Tour in Tempe and sat down with Kenny Dillingham, head coach of the Arizona State Sun De...vils. Coach Dillingham breaks down the idea behind naming Will Compton and Taylor Lewan as head coaches for the ASU spring game, and explains why creativity and innovation are essential when recruiting elite, five-star talent to Arizona State. He talks about changing perceptions, building belief, and showing recruits that ASU is a destination worth buying into. Dillingham also reflects on his coaching journey, including how Assistant Head Coach Charlie Ragle helped get him started, and why the Arizona State job is his dream role. He makes it clear this is where he wants to be, and where he plans to stay. From facility upgrades and NIL growth to long-term vision and culture, Coach Dillingham lays out his blueprint for the future of Sun Devil football. His energy, passion, and belief in the program are impossible to miss, and by the end of this episode, you just might find yourself rooting for Arizona State. Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah. What job this one last? Battle of the boys spring game champions. That one hurts too. Team Maroon, team comp. I'll tell you, I'm never won in ASU Stadium. I'm never won in Sun Devils Stadium ever. I have a state championship dummy 38 to 0.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl dummy like 44, 13 against Kansas State. But this one hurts the most. A state championship and a bowl game. And this one hurts the most. Go back to Arizona. Where I'm from? Shaptown. Coach Dehlehem goes to Shaptown.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Charlie Rago's my head coach. And it's like, I legit thought you guys were going to really make it so I could win. Yeah, we're about character. I needed to win. The other day I lost this quarterback challenge. And like, you can just tell Taylor and I, low-key are super competitive against each other. I'm glad about that quarterback challenge.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I do have that. Yeah, you do have that. And low-key, when we put the headsets on everything, I was just telling the boys, like, hey, we got to win this fucking game. You guys understand that, right? I haven't catching too many ws, dude. I feel like an L was in my future.
Starting point is 00:02:47 How to take one. Yeah, what was it at the end? 1715, and they're fucking, I'm dealing at the coordinator. I'm like, no, we're not taking a knee. We're running the ball. He's like, my boss, you. He's like, my boss said we're taking a knee. and so I run out to the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm like, hey, we want to score. And he's like, go ahead, go score. Like, what do you want to do? And the guy was like in the knee formation or victory formation. I'm like, score. Just run a play and score. And he's like, hey, I'll throw you a fade. No.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's how that happened. I know. Because as soon as we, I knew you guys were in a knee and I thought to myself, Will's going to go try to run this thing up because it was in the red. We were within the five yard line. I know. I was like, no, wait a man. We're not taking a knee.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We got to run this thing up. He caught it, too. Dude, he did catch it. That was good. I caught the ice bath. Oh, I thought that was sweat. I thought that was the start of a coaching career. One and O.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah, dude, I would not be a good coach. I found that out today. Your coaches try to take over for me. Like, maybe you call on the place, I'm like, yeah, let me get this play and they call one. And then all of a sudden they start calling the other place. I'm like, hey, hey, what's the play? And the coach wouldn't listen to me. He would just be like, I'd probably call two plays.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, that was probably why they didn't win. I mean, to be honest, if they were to listen to you, I mean, I think you would have I like that. I like the sound. That's a good way for me to spin it. a good way for me to spend it. But hey, we're in Tempe, your home. You grew up here. You've been in so many prestigious programs. We were talking about this a little bit before we came on camera is historically rich traditions at Florida State, Oregon, Auburn. And you come here and let's call a spade of
Starting point is 00:04:14 spade. It's not. And so how do you compete with those other colleges that have all that history and tradition to say, hey, come here? Well, I think you just look at it. And tradition is just something that happened in the past. It has no effect in the future. Right. But what happens is, happens is social media nowadays drives where kids believe they can go to school. So I believe I can only go to a school that ESPN tells me is of an elite status. And they choose those schools. When in reality, if 25 of the best players just chose to come here, three years in a row, our roster would be top five in the country. It's very, very simple. So people need to stop living in this bubble that only certain places can win and come to a place that it's 70 degrees in April,
Starting point is 00:04:58 60 degrees in June, right? They bring the Super Bowl here. They bring the waste management open. They bring tons of concerts. Retired athletes move here. Right. Why would you not live here in a place that's the fifth largest market in the country? We have a player who has his own podcast, right?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Why would you not choose to come here, right? Just because we may not have the tradition in 1996? Right. That's so short-minded. We're trying to teach people, right? We can be the tradition. Come here and be the tradition 20 years from now. How do you sell them on that when you walk around and obviously your facilities?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Like all we talk about tradition and everything else, but even facility wise and walking around, you can just tell that money isn't poured into this place yet. No question. And, you know, the places I've been, this is actually, this is actually probably the middle of the road facilities of the places I've been at, shockily enough. It's not Oregon, right? And no place is Oregon. I think anybody's Oregon.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Nebraska. The support here from the community and from the city is there. We have the ability financially to compete because we have the fifth large metropolitan area in the country. We just got to get everybody back involved in college sports. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 How do you do that? Yeah. Well, by winning games, right? And stuff we did today. You guys. Yeah. Yeah, what got you on to that? I feel like that was like,
Starting point is 00:06:17 you know, I want to say innovative, but also I don't want to say innovative because it was us. Like, what puts you on the trail to do something like that? Because we were promoting like, hey, where do you guys want us to go? And then all of a sudden you just,
Starting point is 00:06:28 without a shout, without any questioning, like, hey, we want you guys to come here and, like, coach a spring game. We want to build it around you guys because I feel like the majority of the coaches wouldn't do something like that. Yeah, one, I don't need to be the stars of the show. I actually would rather be in the background, right? So it's great for me. Two, right, what other schools did you guys go to? We went to LSU, we went to South Carolina, Ohio State, Texas.
Starting point is 00:06:52 What was the other one? Colorado. Colorado. Colorado, but we really didn't go to Colorado. We didn't go to Boulder. And then where? And then here. Here.
Starting point is 00:07:00 All five of those have something in common, right? Tradition. Yeah. Except for Arizona. Right. So we have to be creative and innovative to get our brand out to change the narrative here. You guys were the creativity and the innovation and your guys is following in just who you guys are as people to create a culture here that we can change it and get those players necessary to be one of these teams that I want to build this program into. When you're looking at this, this town.
Starting point is 00:07:28 being, it's a pro football town. How do you get people to transition from pro football into college football? I don't think you'll transition people. I think you got to, I think there's enough room for both. I think not everybody's going to be able to go to a Cardinals game on a Sunday, right? But I do think there's enough people that if you can't go to a Cardinals game on a Sunday, you can come to an ASU game on a Saturday. I think there's enough people in this city that we can have both.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And people forget, ASU was here first. 30 years ago, the Jake Plummer era, there was actually. these plays, all the games sold out. Seven years ago, all the games sold out, right? This town just likes winners because there's so many options, whichever team's winning is what they choose, right? So we've got to put a product in the field that produces winning. And if we do that, the fans will come, the recruits will see it.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And then the tradition happens, and the rest is history. I mean, what was Clemson 20 years ago? Yeah. Clemson hadn't won a 10-win game in 20 season. All of a sudden, the culture changed. Coach Sweeney did a phenomenal job. Now they're a blue blood. But why can't that happen here?
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's true. Oh, that's fair. As far as for coaching, like finding your process here, your senior year at Chaparral, you get hurt. You're dealing with that. You're trying to think. Regal was talking about you were going to come here, become a lawyer like your dad, and kind of keep moving forward. What made you pivot into becoming a football coach? Yeah, Coach Regal grabbed me and said, hey, you should just try this out, start coaching,
Starting point is 00:08:51 and I started coaching. And I just love the impact you could make on people. I love people. I love being around people. I'm a people person, right? All these exes and a nose, people think they matter, and they do. You have to know what you're doing. But what wins is can you get people to come together
Starting point is 00:09:06 and can you motivate people to do more than they normally would? That's what wins. All the other stuff sounds fun, right? Yeah, we're going to run power versus weak rotation, whatever that is. That's everybody could do that. I could teach my wife, right, what good play calls are, right? I wanted a coach because I love seeing that it click for a player. I loved it when a player maybe off the field or on the field
Starting point is 00:09:27 in the classroom, he couldn't get something or he didn't know how to be successful and then it clicked. And once it clicks, it clicks. And you know how to manage it, whether that's your life and your work life balance. And all of a sudden, they're like, hey, you've got to find balance here. You're not balanced yet. You're not going to be successful. Then all of a sudden, it clicks. Like, I love, I'm addicted to that click. Yeah. When you have a guy like Charlie Regal who got you into coaching football, now you employed him essentially. You snagged him from Idaho State. You know, like, hey, come down to ASU when he was a head coach. Like, what is that relationship like now when at one point he was your superior and now it's flipped.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah, I mean, it's just the guy I lean on to ask questions to like, is this stupid? Yeah. Like, we have a dance off in the middle of a scrimmage, our scrimmage three. We paused for a dance off and I'm like, is this stupid? Like, I want to do it. Right. But is it stupid? Like, should we be doing this?
Starting point is 00:10:17 We bring a basketball hoop out to the third practice. And then other practice, we have a shootout. I'm like, is this bad? So I just bounce ideas off of him. Like I wanted to run one-on-ones in the middle of a practice. Like 1V-1 basketball. He's like, Kenny, they're in cleats. They're not used to the movements in cleats.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That would be stupid. So we can just shootout. So he's kind of the person that tones me down because I'm the guy that wants to go 100 miles per hour all the time and everything. It's pretty terrifying. The guy like Charlie Wrigal has to be the one to say, hey, don't go for the last. When he was sitting here, he was saying earlier, he's their fifth gear. He was in parked.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So that's... You can tell he's the speed. He's the speech. guy, and he is. His speeches are all time, brother. I was going to tell you. I know. Remember the one about the dog?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah, the dog. And I threw the ball and the dog kept running. And then I threw it again and the dog kept running. And the dog never came back because he wanted that ball. He wanted to run through a fucking wall when he does that, dude. You, um, when you're, when you're looking at this program and you guys are expected, years are predicted to win four games this year, how do you think going into this season with the development you've seen from Springball?
Starting point is 00:11:21 How do you see the season going for you guys? Yeah, I mean, I think our players, I haven't even talked about that because I think our guys are invested. Like, I think our guys, you heard Jalen say it earlier what his expectations are, right? Not even close to the same. Because I don't think people understand how much our team grew together. People look at 45 new kids, 45 old kids that are all probably selfish is what people think. Right? Kids that.
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Starting point is 00:14:19 That's why you transfer to get yours. and what they fail to see is the community, like you guys are mentioned in off air, that our kids are together. Like our kids, it's different. Like, they're building a culture here for each other. And I think that's the secret sauce to winning in college. Look at Kansas State, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Look at Utah, right? Look at the teams that win, right? It's the culture that wins. Yeah. And you can tell, too, like when the kids were on here talking and doing their interview, they also alluded to you being excited, like this was your dream job.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Can you talk about why ASU is your dream job? And if you, you know, if you're saying that and not planning on going anywhere else, speak a little bit on that. Yeah, so obviously I'm born and raised here. I grew up going to games. You know, my family moved out here. My parents when they were, you know, 50 years ago. My wife's born and raised here.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We were neighbors in high school. So I grew up rooting for Arizona State. And then I coached high school ball here, right? then I coached college ball here, and then I moved around the country, but this is always home. So home is home. Like, there's nothing like being home.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like, you talk about ultra motivation. Like, I used to clean up dog crap at Chaparral Park. That was my job when I coached. I drive by Chaparral Park on my way to work. So when you talk about all those things that add up, and then with my families here, I believe this place can win championships. I believe the city, what it's growing to,
Starting point is 00:15:48 what it can become, all we have to do is teach kids, it's okay to come here. That's it. Because if you showed up here, you're going to be like, dang, I want to live there. That's not a debate.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You just got to teach to people, it's okay to come here. That's it. It's okay. Don't listen to the media. Come here. Live the life you want to live. Live the life retired professional athletes live in Chandler.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Right. And let's go do something special. You say like, you're kind of juicy. Yeah, the phrase you're used to is like, tell them it's okay to come here. Why do you think ASU has
Starting point is 00:16:19 that stigma of being like, hey, if you're a five-star guy, unless you're like grew up an ASU fan, don't come here. I think the media chooses what's okay and where's okay for people to go to. I think when you watch TV, when you look at Twitter, they tell you, they tell these five and four stars, you can only go to blank. You're too good for blank, right? That program's not good enough in history for you. why? Like, why? Like, that doesn't make any sense to me, but it's the narrative that these kids
Starting point is 00:16:56 hear all the time is, you're too good for this. You're too good for this, right? When in reality, they should be finding where they want to live, right, and what people they trust. That's it. And if you get 25 elite players living where they want to live with coaches they trust, that's an elite team. Just like that. It's a very, very simple process. But, you've got to break the narrative. Yeah. When you're, as a head coach, being such a young head coach, what do you attribute your success to at such a young age?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Because there's a lot of coaches out there that are in their 50s, 60s that have never sniffed a head coaching job. How did you get to this point in such an early age in your life? Yeah, I would say I have a bad, I'm very bad at not being honest. So everybody thinks, oh, young energy players coach, right? That's what the players think, players coach, right? but I'm also the dude that tells you what you don't want to hear. Like I have no problem saying you can't play here.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, you're not going to make it. You're not going to play for us. I have no problem saying that was lazy as crap. Yeah. Like that doesn't bother me. That's just how I was raised. So I think the combination of my youth and understanding that kids haven't changed, right?
Starting point is 00:18:09 People say kids have changed. Kids have changed. It's like the narrative, right? Oh, these new kids are different. No, they haven't. Right. Adults have lowered the bar because they, think kids can't hit the old standard.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So they just lower the bar, lower the bar, lower the bar, lower the bar, and then you hit the bar. No, you can hit the bar that's always been set, just do it in different ways. Kids like social media now. Don't hide from it. We have people saying, oh, social media is the devil, hide from it. No, embrace it. Show them all their tweets of people calling them the worst player on the planet so they get used to it. Don't tell them, don't look at it because they're going to.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like, you have to embrace the new age that we are in, right? and then find a way to hit the same high bar in a new era. And I feel like I've been able to find a balance. And then I genuinely care about people. Like, I have relationships. I have a group chat with all my former quarterbacks. I think they can feel that. So all those three things combined.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Have you, go ahead. I was just going to say, where do you feel like you've picked up on those things over time and over your career? Like what philosophies or what things have you read, what things have helped kind of cultivate that mindset about it? I think one, I mean, Coach Regal, I mean, he's a guy who cared about his players. I mean, he would do anything for his players. But he coached him hard. Right? He was passionate. Like, he brought it every single day.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So getting the sea under him at a young age. We had another guy from a football standpoint, Conrad Hamilton. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:21:51 podcast. Right, it was an unbelievable defensive coach, right? Also a coach of Chaparral. Yep, also a coach of Chaparral. Yeah, we had a squad. Dude, yeah. Yeah, we'll get on that later, but we had a squad, right? It was probably the goat squad of all time in the history of high school football.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But that's just my personal opinion. But I combine that with guys like Mike Norvell. And I think I've learned more what to do, but I've learned more what I wouldn't do along the way. Like, hey, I love this, but I don't like this. And I've just kind of marked off all the things I wouldn't want to do as a head coach. Because at the end of the day, people know fake. That's one thing I firmly believe. People know fake, people know real.
Starting point is 00:22:37 People know if a head coach walked in. If I walked in and gave her speech like Charlie Regal and said, we're going to chase the dog, I'd be laughed out the roof. I'm 5'9. I'm unathletic. Like, I'm the goofball. I got no chance to give that speech. If I give that speech, I'm a fraud.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I have to play into me. As a head coach, the culture is going to be what I am. Because if you're not, people feed off of it and they know your full crap. Yeah, phenomenal energy. Phenomenal energy. When you're talking about kids looking at Twitter and you're like, go ahead and look at the negative comments. Have you ever showed players? Have you ever gone into a team meeting room and been like, hey, they're saying this about you?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Not yet, but we have showed what they retweet and like. Yeah. So I do just from like, hey, I just scroll and this is what you like. So if somebody is trying to draft you or hire you for a job and they look at your Twitter, this is you, bud. Just know that. Right? That's hilarious. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So I do. Or all the positive ego feeling shit that they get tweeted at and they like or retweet and stuff. It's like, hey, you know, the whole quote, live for the cheers died by the booze. It's like, you know, the moment people say bad stuff about. you, we know you're going to be looking and feeding into that because you get so hyped to like and retweet and engage with everybody who you want to see, oh, look what so-and-so said about me. Correct. I mean, there was a year and years past, just as an example, I pulled up my name for my team and scrawled at all the hate so they can see, look, this is what people say about me.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Calling reverse on the minus 10 that was a TFL fumble. Probably not a great call, right? Look, people hate me. Definitely not a good call. But horrible call. We were the number two offense in the country. Right? So they love me, love me, love me, hate, hate, hate, hate. And the whole goal is like, you should love the process to get better. And the best players I've ever been around loved like the football. Like they found a way, even if they didn't love ball, they found a way to fall in love with being there. Even if football wasn't their passion, they found a way to compete one on one and talk crap enough
Starting point is 00:24:36 that they found a way to compete. So it's, can you block all that out? Look at it. Because you're going to look at it. You can't hide from it anymore. So let's embrace it. But then keep the main thing, the main thing. Laugh at it. Like, yeah, you're probably right. And you should have cut that ball. I agree with them.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. You should have. You know, but you don't take it as a negative. Take it as a laugh. Like, joke about it. When you're going through recruiting process of Arizona, how do you get guys, what's your selling point on ASU over something like U of A or anywhere else in the PAC 12?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Well, I think for us specific, one, we don't recruit versus U of A. Yeah. That's just, that's a no-brainer to come here. that's a no-brainer to come here. Oh, like, they just ain't. Yeah, that's a no-brainer to come here. You should come here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's not a debate. Yeah. And I'm going to- hate that. Mark's going to hate that. We got to clip that for March. And I'm going to be here. I mean, you're choosing a U of A or ASU
Starting point is 00:25:27 with a guy who's passionate about actually being here forever. Yeah. It's not a debate because you know you're going to play for me. Jed Fish, who's a really good football coach? He's a really good football coach. Really good football coach. If you guys got in a fight, who do you think would win? Oh, I would win.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah? Oh, yeah, I would win. And I am fiery. Yeah. I will bite ankles. You did just say you're unathletic and goofy. I'm unathletic, but I'm fiery. And you can hit me over and over again.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'm probably, I'm going to go all day. You're going to be like that dog. Yeah, I'm going to be like the dog. You're going to have to kill the dog. You're going to have to kill me. Yeah. I don't like to lose. Anybody in the pack 12 that you think could whoop your ass?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Let me go through this. I mean, I don't know. I mean, to be honest, you would think Dion. I mean, he's a professional athlete. That's me being real. I lost his toes. Yeah. So you don't know how that kind of hinders.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I don't know, but I would just think. I mean, I think he just benched like 225, 20 times or something. I don't know. You really do that? Yeah, I was pretty impressive. What bench? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's always been.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Talk to him about that. He's always been a bench press cat. Sometimes he'd do videos right after he gets on hit the bench press. Really? Drop some wisdom on you. Drop some philosophy on you. That's awesome. So no one's beating you except for Dionne maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I'd have to, Kyle Whittingham, I mean, he's, the way his team plays, I don't know any of these guys yet, but the way his team plays, I wouldn't want to get in a steel cage with him. You're usually a reflection of your coach,
Starting point is 00:26:49 how physical and tough you are as a football team. So the way his team plays, I wouldn't want to get in a ring with him. His guys play hard. Has the NFL ever been something that you've thought about? Not really. I like the, I like making impact on kids. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers,
Starting point is 00:27:04 and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast. called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:27:13 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember. going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
Starting point is 00:27:49 Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:29:21 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Like seeing kids like a switch. Yeah. Yeah, it's not as much about the football as it is about the people. Do you think you would ever dabble in the NFL? No. You say not really.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It's like, what if you have great success at Arizona State, which, let's just say, within five years, you put a couple years together, and then the NFL starts to poke their head in on like, hey, let's get you up to the big leagues. Yeah, I want to be here. And throwing a bag at you. Yeah, I want to be here. I mean, at the end of the day, I always tell people, like, there's a certain amount of money to make you comfortable, right? I am way in that number.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Then there's a certain amount of money that's just what are you going to do with it, right? I mean, here I'm way beyond comfortable. So at this point, like, I am very, very happy and I plan on being here. Like, I want to build this right. I want to build this for the long haul. That's why we're not cutting corners. I mean, especially culturally. Like, we're not cutting corners culturally building this the right way.
Starting point is 00:30:22 What fires me up, and you can ask your question, but I was just going to chime in and say, what fires me up is that I believe all the stuff he's saying. Yeah. And we were a part of year one. Yeah, that is a good point. The first game. I'll tell you what. If you can bail in five years, though, you will get a call from us.
Starting point is 00:30:38 This will be on repeat. Yeah, absolutely. Over and over. It is come here in the fall for a game, like a tailgate or something like that. Yeah, that'd be cool. That would be fun. Anytime we can come to Arizona. I'm down.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, you guys will be on the Raiders, so you'll just be able to drive right down. Yeah. We do have rules. We have to play together this year. We are a package deal. When you start winning here and the money starts coming into ASU to really beef up this facility, where's the first place you're attacking? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I mean, I want to get an indoor right behind. We have a bubble over on the other side. I want to get an indoor and the fields moved over here, which is already part of our plans. But obviously, that's going to... Where did you put it? We're going to take out some of the parking behind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Behind this and we'll put an indoor right here, taking out that building, and then two fields back there. So that way everything's kind of... Yep, everything's right here. That's awesome. So that's step one. But my first step in terms of fundraising and money is fundraising for our players in NIL.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Everything I do right now is for our players. They said they wanted better food. in better food. They said they wanted better snacks, got them better snacks. Right. You guys ate the food today. It's pretty good. Right. They said they need NIL that haven't had it. I fundraised almost every night for NIL. Like every decision we make is players. And if you keep that the main thing, that players win. That means everything you should spend money on should affect the who, the players. So I asked them, what do they want? Like, what do you guys want? You want this? You want this? because that's who you're trying to get
Starting point is 00:32:05 to play at their best of their ability and that's how you get buying. With NIL, how do you attack that? Because you're basically always playing for agency now. How do you, it says a free agency is about to start right now. Today. The portal opens up, yeah. How do you go about attacking that?
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, one for us, I tell people if you don't want to be here, leave. Because I firmly believe culture wins. So it's, you don't want to be here, leave. That's fine. I really don't care. I can go. I don't care if our three best people.
Starting point is 00:32:32 players into the portal. I wouldn't want it. And I don't believe that's going to happen because we've built a good culture here, but I wouldn't beg them to stay because that's how you build a bad culture, right? And on top of that, I tell everybody, my job is to bring in somebody to beat you out. Yeah. Because that's the best for the team. So it may hurt your feelings if I bring in four players and they beat out four starters. But guess what? There's another 85 guys who are on a better team. So don't be selfish when I make this team better. And I challenge them. I just tell them that. There are no guarantees on this team. Every transfer we took, right, they weren't promised anything.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Zero transfers were promised to start. We're promised in I-O money. We're promised anything. It was coming here, compete, win. Same thing with everybody on our team. It is win and earn your keep. I feel like we've basically hit all the big questions. I do want to hit one more.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You use the phrase activate the valley. What does that mean? It just means get everybody involved. Like show up at the spring game. Buy season tickets. Show up. because the one thing that we're going to, you know, you don't have that six national titles.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. Right? You don't have the three national titles that you have to be able to show recruits as people care. You have to be able to go to a game in the fall and see a sold-out crowd and see an environment that you want to play in because that has a huge effect on prospects.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So if we want to be where we want to get to, if we want to get to where we want to get as a program, which is recruit the best players to come here so we can be the best team to come here, they need to show up. and see a sold-out crowd with butts and seats. They need to see people active on social media. People think it's stupid.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No, it's not. Our recruits love being retreated by our fans. It shows love. We need everybody in the Valley to be activated in the fifth largest valley with one school. All these other large cities don't just have one school in a one hour radius. They all have two schools. We're the only one with one.
Starting point is 00:34:30 if everybody can get behind us and get activated financially with what you can get Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news.
Starting point is 00:34:42 We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't. remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month,
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Starting point is 00:37:02 learn the hard way. Open your free Our Heart Radio app, search learn the hard way and listen now. And then put your butt in the seat, show up, right? People are going to realize we care.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And if people realize we care here, we're going to be pretty dang good. Well, I feel like... Seems like the right man. The right man for the job here. I feel like ASU is in good hands, folks. Coach, we appreciate you. coming on today. Now, now if you drop, if you don't even win four games, we might have to come back
Starting point is 00:37:28 and ask about that. But so far, like, I'm sold. That's fair. Who's your first game? Our first game is that, we have four home games. So our first PAC 12 game is USC here, week four. So, four. That'll be a tough one. Week four, USC at home. We play Oklahoma State week two, and then Fresno State week three. So we've got a few good games here at home to start. So I'm hoping it's 1005 all four of those games And I'm hoping we kick off at noon Hell yes
Starting point is 00:37:58 Absolutely Yeah this has been awesome man Thank you We appreciate you we're rooting for you man We really hope everything works out You know let's I mean maybe you'll have to defend your trophy next year Maybe
Starting point is 00:38:08 I would sign up for that right now I need that trophy We can make that happen If you get a little I'm not going to touch that We need a little Will Compton right there On the side Oh like puts them on the side
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah We almost got you A second place trophy that was just like a car bus. That would be so funny. But we opt in your pocket. Like a little silver short bus to go on a keychain or something. Yeah, this is awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:38:34 This has been a great time. Awesome. I feel like there should be a punishment for me for losing. We were bummed because somebody goes, because on the pod we're like, we'll figure out what the bed is. So what, so what does the loser have to do or give or anything like that? It's like, man, we didn't get around to doing it. Don't say that, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Don't say that. I don't think you're home. I think the loser should have to donate his watch to ASU NIL. I think that would be phenomenal. We could figure out some NISF, I'll tell you what, next year, not to watch. You had not to watch. You had a good day in Vegas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah, but that's my money. I'm going to have to keep that train alive. But yes, we will be back. And I think there should be some sort of NIL bet next year. Between you and me, loser has to be. pay a certain amount. Yeah, as long as we, as long as it aligns with whatever happens this year, like what just happened. Well, okay, how much do you want me to pay this year? I don't know. Just say a number, but no, next year, it's got to be the same thing. Because I'll pay whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You can think about it. You don't want to say a number right now? Because you know money gets me. Yeah, money gets me quees you. You rolled in the escalate today. Yeah. He earned that. There's a reason. There was a reason that I would escalate. You're soft now. You don't got that grit anymore, brother. No, dude, no. We had, I don't even got to explain myself. You put the video with me in the RAV-4 with that seat all the way back.
Starting point is 00:40:03 The big case. The big case. Oh. There's a RAV-4 and then the escalate. I'm thinking the big case, carrying case for all this equipment would go in the escalate. Mitch was the one in charge of it. Mitch is on Team Compton. The whole thought process was, we're going to be riding in separate cars.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like, now's the time, now's the morning we shouldn't be hanging out anymore. We need to separate. So I was like, let's separate Team Compton, team Luan. And then I look at this big case and I'm like, hey, we should get the escalate. They was like, oh, I see what you're doing here. I buckled him in his seat and everything, dude. I was hot. I was hot.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But yeah, Coach, we appreciate you. If you want us to come back for a spring game, we'll absolutely do that. Awesome. Absolutely. Sounds great. We love to be here. Thank you. We had a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:40:44 A lot of fun. Subscribe, Big Cucks, tiny kisses. And rate five stars. And tell your friends, too. Please, God, we need this. That was fun. Appreciate it. Hey, guys, it's us.
Starting point is 00:41:01 The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. Nice. We invented a podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud. But how long can this alliance last?
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