Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Marshall Faulk On Playing For The Greatest Show On Turf

Episode Date: November 8, 2025

Recorded: February 6th, 2024 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, the Boys were joined by NFL Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk. The guys talked about his journey to the league and the moment he knew he was destined for the NFL — a wild story in itself. Marshall opened up about his reaction to being traded to the Rams and what it was like playing alongside Peyton Manning and Kurt Warner during two different eras of greatness. They also dove into what it felt like to win a Super Bowl, the emotions behind his Hall of Fame induction, and the mindset that made him one of the greatest to ever play the game. Marshall is a true legend, and hearing him reflect on his time in the league is as insightful as it is inspiring. Big hugs, tiny kisses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Marshall Falk. Let's give a right of applause for Marshall Falk. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Absolute legend.

You just flew in just now, yeah? I got in, yeah, earlier today. Earlier today. I grew up an hour south. I don't know if you're familiar with Festus or Farmington, Missouri. Yeah, yeah. But you're a legend, bro.

Thank you. You are a legend. And it was, it's a pleasure to have you on our podcast. Right on, man. Right before the show we were talking, and you saw the Nebraska had shout out the Big Red, but you mentioned that Osborne, Coach Osborne, was the first coach that said you couldn't play running back?

First coach. First coach. And he was honest. Like, first day I was there, you sit in with him, and this before you go to your position meeting, and he asked, you know, what is so what position you think you can play here at Nebraska? And, you know, like, this is the early 90s,

Nebraska rolling. Yeah. They're rolling. And the only reason I took a visit because Mickey Joseph, who's from New Orleans as well, had just became the quarterback there. And I thought, because I'm right in between Mickey and Vance. Vance Joseph is Mickey Joseph's younger brother. So I'm in between them too.

And I was like, man, if I go, I get a year to play with Mickey. And then I'll play with Vance because I thought Vance was coming there. But Vans ended up going to Colorado. So did Nebraska offer? They did, they did. But I had to play corner. Really? Yeah.

I mean, you were. Like, I mean, you were an athlete. Listen, man, Coach Osborne is a legend. Yeah. He, they, when he was at Nebraska, they churned out so many athletes, so many first rounders. So, I mean, he knew what he was talking about. I was a pretty good corner. But I had to love, I had a love for playing running back.

So it's a little different. Was all your offers kind of split? Like, teams wanting you to play corner, teams want to you to play running back? Most of them wanted me to play corner. So is that probably the biggest reason you want to say? Well, no, no, no, because on offense, they were lazy. And I'm going to tell you what happened after. All right.

So I played quarterback receiver running back. But on offense, I was just a corner, cover corner. So they couldn't tell what I played on offense. And right after that happened about, let me say, right around maybe 94, 95, they created the position called athlete. So when you recruit a guy, you recruit him as a, you just get an athlete. Yeah.

Because they realized, damn, if we'd have got him in here, found out he could play multiple positions. But back then they had to recruit a position. You had to play a position. You couldn't just be an athlete. If Tom Osborne would have came in and been like, listen, you're a hell of an athlete. We see you play all over the place,

utilize you in ways no one's ever seen before. You're going to Nebraska? It would have been easy. I mean, it would have been an easy decision. I mean, Nebraska was like cream of the crop. Early 90s. It's a good reference. too, corner-hers.

I mean, 88, 89, 90, they were dominating fools. Man, hey, that's got to feel good to hear, dude. It does feel good to hear. It sucks that we didn't, you know what I mean? Like, I was born and a cornerback. It happens. It happens. I went to the University of Mission, so I have to ask, did Michigan offer you?

No. Who's in your top? Who's in your top? But Michigan wasn't recruiting, you know, they weren't recruiting in the South like that. Michigan, Michigan, Notre Dame, they had that idea of they wanted people who played in cold weather. That's the kind of, they didn't understand the difference in speed in the south versus the north. Who's your top three and why did you choose San Diego State?

San Diego State wasn't even in the runnings. It was Nebraska, Miami, and Texas A&M. So why San Diego State? I took a trip out there. I was like, I want to live here. This is nice. Plain land, you take the 163 down. You're riding.

I'm like, I've never seen anything this. beautiful. And the only thing I could think of, yes, I get to spend maybe four or five years at a school, but I get to live here the rest of my life. And so I live in San Diego. You still live in San Diego? I still live in San Diego. What part of San Diego are you living in? La Jolla. La Jolla. So when I was training, I would be in Lucadia, Carl's Bad, in Sanita's area, dude. Awesome. We'd stay like on the bluff, hang out like just a way of living out there. Like Southern California

really just can't beat it, dude. Yeah, I fell in love with it. My trip out there, I just, I fell in love with the city. The school. so open and it's just like and then it was like a melting pot like I mean and I was I had never been around any Asians any no Mexicans

I was like there's there's everything at this school like the diversity was unbelievable what was the process like going into the draft because you were number two overall right number two number two overall talk about that because obviously like running back now if you got somebody in the top 10

it's like oh that that's a big leap like back when you were a running back, like the running back was the premier spot that you drafted at, you signed guys, like you built around the running back. Guess what we didn't do in college? The running backs that got drafted early

that you see going one, two, three, guess what we didn't do in college? We didn't share the back field. You watch college down, you got three and four guys playing, I'm like, who's the guy? You can't tell who the guy is. Yeah.

So if you don't step up and demand, look, hey, I want to carry the ball, 20, 25 times a game and then you're not going to get it. The position, and I'm saying it, the position has been devalued by the guys who want to share time. Even in the pros, these guys come out.

Man, I never wanted to come out of the game. I didn't want somebody taking my spot. Right. And now it's like two run, two carries. Like they'll let somebody else in. Right, right. It's got to make you appreciate a guy like Derek Henry then. Yeah, well, Derek Henry, Kristen McCaffrey.

Kristen, uh-uh, don't don't come in for me. Right. I saw, I actually read recently, I think there was just an article on it about a CMC talking about how he's connected with you in the off seasons or you giving him advice, feedback. I think it was like you and LaDaney and Tomlinson taking care of your body, just kind of being like Christian's kind of like that style that you were where you can do everything. You can catch out of the back field.

You can line up at receiver. You can run the ball. Talk about meeting him and how you've been kind of, I guess, a mentor. during his career. I mean, I wish I could say I was a mentor. The kid is such astute. And obviously, we know his father is. The pedigree is dear.

But what I love is, in today's game, very few guys reach out. I got it, I know. And the fact that, you know, he'll call and he'll ask certain things. And he's not asking for pointers on how they hit the hole. And he's like, how do I, longevity, you played 13 years. How do I do this? How do I do that? What did you change about your workouts when you got today?

age. What did you, you know, the things that you want to know to, to like next level, which is how to maintain your body, how to take care of yourself. And that's what he's doing. It's not about what happens on the field. It's about what happens off the field. And he's smart enough to understand the game is going to be played. You just got to be out there to be, to play it.

No question. The best, the best, the best, the best, when you have talent and you see it, the, the best ability is your availability. That's, yeah, with going back to San Diego, San Diego State, when you're having all these big offers and you just go to a place and the location to you is like, oh, this is where I want to be. Like, was there any family members that was like,

listen, you have an opportunity to go to the NFL here. Are you sure you want to go to San Diego State? You go to Miami. You go to Miami in the 90s. But listen, and I'm going to be, I'll be honest with you guys. On my high school football team, in four years, I probably won like six games. Like, we sucked.

Like, you couldn't tell. but everybody we played like you could like I scored on when we played against the really good teams like I wasn't on a good team so it wasn't like you saw in me oh he could go to the NFL it was like

you people didn't know right they didn't see it so when I got to San Diego Staten all right now I'm not playing running back receiver quarterback DB kicker punter return kicks punts like when I walked on the field

in high school, I didn't come off till half time. Yeah. You was kicking and punning? Oh, yeah. I did everything. And when the kicker was okay, I held for him. So I did everything. So they didn't really get a chance to see.

So I get to San Diego State. Now it's just like, that's all I do is play running back? Oh, my God. This is easy. Are you kidding me? I get the rest while the defense is out there. Oh, man, I'm going to be fresh. Way easier.

It was like night and day. So if you didn't know in high school, like, for me, I tell the story that I got offered by Utah State going into my senior year. And that was like, okay, I'm going to go to the NFL. Like, when it were for you, we were like, okay, I'm for sure. Maybe not going to have the success that you eventually had. But like, what did you know? Like, I'm going to be an NFL football player?

My second game in college, literally. First game didn't go well? First game, I didn't play much. Yeah. And I got in. It was like we played, I think it was like Long Beach. state and I got in and I had a couple of good runs and then I you know tried to try to do a little too much and did a spin move and the ball flew in the air. I was like oh my God. And then the next

game I don't play the first quarter. First play first play of the second quarter, our starting running back was the punt returner. He gets hit in the thigh and he's out. And coach grabs my face mask. The only thing he says is hold on to the ball. And so from right, right, hold on to the ball. Yeah. So I end up playing the rest of the second quarter, the third quarter and half of the fourth.

In that time, I rushed for 389 yards and seven touchdowns. Who were y'all playing? Literally. People get mad at me because after that, like, I think after that year, they shut down the football program. It was the University of Pacific. Literally. You ended the entire program.

You ended them. That's what they say. You shut down the whole program. That is nuts, man. Yeah. What was it like going from where'd you grow up exactly? New Orleans. New Orleans to San Diego and then to Indianapolis.

All culture shocks. Yeah? All culture shocks. They're like, I'm talking night and day, man. What was, I remember, before we get to that, I remember going to the combine. So I leave San Diego. I go, I fly to Indianapolis for the combine.

It's cold. It's like this time of the year in Indy. And it did. Just had like one of the worst blizzers. And I never been in snow. I'm like, oh my God, it sucks. This is awful. I would never live here with the second pick.

Indianapolis coach take bars of fuck. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, take us through your thought process. Probably pumped second round or second overall, but at the same time you're like, damn, I got to go to Indianapolis. Man, I was just like, that's all I was thinking about was the wintertime.

I was just like, man, it's how cold it was when I was there. I was happy that we played indoors. But at that point in time, they didn't have an indoor practice facility. Oh, you're out there in the wintertime. Yeah, my first year, my first year, we didn't have indoor practice facility. So it was a, it wasn't as bad as I thought.

It's so different. when you like in college how you see things to in the pros like you grow up real fast when you like you're a rookie halfway through the season

it starts to get cold and you're in the locker room and you're in the huddle and he's grown men he's like grown ass men and they're like like my job's on the line hold on to the ball

you're like man this this guy got to feed his kids like the game for some people it's not really a game. It's like it's their livelihood, and they take it serious. And that's like a whole other transition,

seeing the game for what it is. But trying to make sure that it's still fun for you because the fun can go out of it real quick. That's got to be the hardest thing, though, is realizing how much of a business it is, especially like high school, like all your boys, like you win in six games, your entire,

but every single Friday the boys are hyped up. After, I don't know how it was for you boys, but hey, it's like how we're going to find a 12 pack of beer after this? You know, chase a couple girls around. Same thing. But you're all kind of like doing, doing your thing. Then you go to college, and it's like a little more, obviously more serious.

But like, no one's got, no one's married. No one has families. Like, you're still like all as a community going and doing the same thing across San Diego. You're all chasing the NFL. Yeah. And you're all chasing the NFL. You get to the NFL. And it's like, now you're 21 years old.

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available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Grimmy. They go, they do their business, and they leave. You're like, oh, you want to hang out? They're like, no, dog, what are you talking about? I'm going to go see my family. Like, how difficult was that for?

for you to kind of like realize and keep the fun when it was so business. Yeah. You obviously, like you've got to have the right support system around you. Because a lot of the dudes

at the locker room, they're not, when it's over, you're not going to play Madden. Like you're not going to hang out. Yeah. And your priorities start to change and you start to understand

how much of a business it is and you have to start. Yeah, the game is fun and you're getting paid a lot of money and it's a business and they expect you to do your job. And if you don't do the things you're supposed to do, the fun can go out of it really quick. Yeah.

Really quick. How do you feel like your professionalism and like, you know, acclimating yourself to the league as a running back developed over time, especially as a younger guy, like you were alluding to, you know, talking with Christian about like maintaining your body and everything like that? Like how did you develop as a pro in the early part of your career? That what I told him and the things. that I say to him, Emmett Smith told it to me,

Thurman Thomas told it to me, Ronnie Harmon, like these old heads, if you ask, the veterans will tell you what to do. Like, they'll give you the information on how to have a long career and how to last and how to continue to be productive in your latter years. I mean, it wasn't a hard thing. Actually, what is hard is early in your career,

making sure that you doing the off-season, you remain in shape. You don't go party with your boys. Late in your career, making sure that you value the time that you get the train and don't, oh, I got to take my kids here. I got to go here with the wife. The time that we get, those 13 years that I played, it's like a blip in my life. Like it was such a fun time, but when I look back at it, I was like, man, that seemed like so long, but it was, it went so fast. So cherishing in the moments that you have and the responsibilities to, to making sure that you are the best that you can be.

It's a responsibility that you got to take on because when I'm in the huddle, you know what I want you to know when you're looking at me? That you can count on me. I want you to know that I did the things that I was supposed to do in the off-season to be here and I got you. And I need to know you did the same thing.

Yeah. Was it difficult for you to ask for that guidance and help from those older guys? No. Uh-uh. No. So I'm the youngest. I got five older brothers. I'm the youngest of six.

and I learned, you know, I learned by watching them and asking them, and I didn't have to repeat. They paid the dummy tax. I didn't have to pay it. Yeah, no, it's fair. Being the youngest, you kind of have to go about it, like, the humble way, because if not your older brothers are humble you. Yeah. We're both the oldest.

Go ahead, Bob. No. Did you have one? Yeah, I was going to say, was there ever, like, somebody you reached out to for help that was like, you got to figure out for yourself? No, because I was select. I was always selective. What I did was I made sure that I formed some type of relationship with the person before I engaged and asked for help.

And I think that's what you do. You just call somebody up and say, hey, you don't ask them about their life. You don't find out about anything that motivate them. You don't find out if y'all have any commonalities. You just ask them. I mean, that's kind of cheesy. You call somebody and you get to know them. And that's what Kristen did.

He'd say, hey, man, I'm a big fan, huge fan of yours. always loved your game. Like, we had a conversation about where I was at in life and what I was doing and how things are going before we got into anything about ball. Yeah. And I think there's just a respectful way to go about it. Who was that rival running back that you always just kept your eye on that you're like...

All of them. All of them. Every back that I took to, I didn't care where you were drafted, how good you were. I wanted to be the best running back on the field. Actually, I wanted to be the best football player on the field, period. That's what I always thought about. I never looked at it as a position like, I always looked at myself as a football player.

Like I was never, I wasn't a running back or receiver or slot. Like, I didn't want labels. I was like, I can play the game. I'm a football player. Right. What was I going to ask? So, tasting the business for the first time, like you get traded to St. Louis. Before you get traded, you have some turf toe that you're battling the couple of years before.

You did your homework. Look at you. Bro, hey, listen, man. You're Marshall Falk. Like I grew up here. You're on the, you're on the man. You're on the man cover, you know, seeing the jerseys transition to navy, blue, and gold. Like, you're Marshall Falk.

So, yes, I know a little bit about you. But tasting the business for the first time, like, walk us through that. Like, because, you know, you're drafted second overall. Like, you're the man. And then all of a sudden you get traded for a couple picks to St. Louis. Like, talk about that relationship and kind of seeing the business for what it is with Indianapolis. Yeah. I was ready for change.

And I think Indianapolis, they were as long as, because my last year, they were in 98. I almost did a thousand thousand. Like I was like, we sucked, but I had an amazing year. I almost did a thousand thousand. Yeah. You know, and we only won like three or four games. So I was putting in work. But what they realized was that people were still following me.

I was the leader. And they wanted it to be Peyton's team. So moving me kind of took a security blanket away from Peyton, which actually allowed him to grow up because the next year they went 13 and 3. and he took charge of the team. That was kind of his leadership way. But for me, that happened, but in the move, accepting the fact that it was time to go.

And it's kind of like, I kind of needed it in a sense because when you walk into a new locker room and there's guys, and it's like you got trading, you got this big contract, they're looking at you, looking at them. And it's like, it's like, who the hell is this guy? Who does he think he is? and you go from a locker room to where you're proven to a locker room where you have to prove yourself

and it puts you back like it gives you that edge back I got that edge back and I was like okay I like this I got to earn their respect before they believe I can lead them and if you accept it like that then the business is easy to deal with how long does it take you to earn that respect in your mind I mean obviously it's extremely established

I'm sure it didn't take very long but I mean the boys on this year both It actually took, I'll be honest, it took a few games. I'm going to tell you, so we were, we were, I think we were 6 and O, and I barely touched the ball. And I had not won games in the NFL without touching the ball that much. Like I think the first game, I touched the ball, 12 times, the next game, like 13, maybe 15. But we go, we're, I think we were 6 and 0, 5 in 0 or 6 and 0.

And we're in Tennessee. We're playing the Titans. And they're giving us the business. You know. It's a real ball club right here. They're giving us the business. A established ball club. It's a hard-nosed ball club.

I'm just telling you, we go into the locker room. I go to Mike Marce. I say, Mike, I understand you being your dishes. Just come to me. And so we come out. We come out the first like five or six plays. The ball goes to me. We score.

And so I kind of took over the game. We were down like 21, 21. 21, maybe three, and we ended up tying it up 24, 24, and they got the ball drove down and kicked the field goal in overtime. But they had not seen, like I literally took over the game. And that's when they were like, okay. All right, now we see who this guy is. Before that, you know, I was just like, I was coasting.

I hadn't really taken over a game or played up to my potential because I was just a part of the office. I was doing, you know, five, eight, ten yards, 20 yards, score a touchdown here. It didn't, we didn't need to dominate, but,

like, I was like, Mike. Feed the boy. Like, yeah. Have you always been a guy that's like, hey, give me the ball?

Or was that like, was that a new thing for you to do to kind of like, that takes a lot of, that was, that was always, but my personality was, like,

if we're going to, we're going to win if I have the ball. That's like, if I'm getting, the ball, we are going to win. That's like, that was always my personality. That's like a standard textbook personality trait of a skill position guy that you need. Probably so.

You need that. Like, AJ Brown, playing with him with the Titans. Like, he was a guy that, like, he's not getting a lot of catches. He's like, do you all want to win or not? Like, you need to give me the football. And a lot of guys can look at that as, like, selfish guy. Not thinking of a team, but, like, you want dudes to have that kind of confidence and that kind of, like, have that edge.

Have that edge of being like, I can truly make a difference any point in the game at any time. Yeah, I went about it a little different because, I mean, should I play with Ice Bruce, Tori Hope? So I was always like, Mike, look, no problem. Like, we start the game, you throw it, no problem. But when it get real, when it get real, like, hey. You know where to go. Hey. Yeah.

Like, you know when I started looking at him, like, hey. Yeah. Let's get going. Score a little too close. Yeah. Yeah. What was it like playing with Peyton just coming to? It was fun, man.

It was fun. It was fun. Like, watching him learn the game. Because he had all the attributes, but the speed of the game was just a little different. Like, your first year for a quarterback, it's moving fast. Like, faster than you ever thought. And he threw a bunch of interceptions. And, I mean, we used to walk off and he used to, oh, I just didn't think the guy could get there.

Oh, I didn't think the guy could get there. And then one time I was just like, hey, Peyton, it's the NFL. Everybody can get there. Yeah. Like, it's a little different, man. man, all these dudes are dudes, man. They were, at some point in time, they were the best person on 18. All of these dudes in the league, like, they're dudes.

With obviously that rookie year throwing all those interceptions, did you expect him to have the career that he ended up having? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you could see it. You knew it immediately. Because it was all, like, every mistake was a new mistake, and he didn't make the same mistake twice. Once he made that mistake, he filed it away, never made the mistake again.

I love that. Let's dive into the greatest show on turf. Talk about that year. We have a Tennessee Titan, Nashville native. You want a hug? A yard and a half. You want a hug? Hey, Jack, give him a hug.

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on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here, man, in the rise of the St. Louis Rams. It was literally, I remember being in that locker room, you know, from the start of the season. And I think it was like, I think it was Keith Lala Todd. Like, why not us? Like, why not us?

Literally. Like, why not us? Why can't we dominate the league? And everybody was like, huh. And like that literally started. You could see guys, because the Rams had a lot of good draft picks, but they just couldn't put the pieces together. And it was, because they had drafted with Orlando Pace.

Gwen Rinstrum, Isaac Bruce, Todd Light. Like all of these dudes are first rounders. Like they had guys that were still on the team that could play. And, you know, it just hadn't happened for them. But the willingness to just buy in. And we started this thing with celebrating as a team. Like it started in practice. It didn't matter who caught the touchdown.

We were going to celebrate as a team. It didn't matter who got the sack. They were going to celebrate as a team. And that started to feed into the identity. And then we had this special teams coach that was like, he was the best I had ever heard get people ready to play. I mean, and he used to use a lot of war analogies. Those are the best ones.

Yeah, it is. And ask guys to go and tell him what to do. And it used to get people so fired up. I mean, I didn't even play specials. I sat in the special teams meetings just to hear him talk. No shit. And he man, Frank Gans was like he was he was one of the best special teams coaches ever played and in that mantra of us everybody was like we got to go to work if we want to do this and that became our whole thing got to go to work got to go to work

got to go to work got to go to work. When you you guys are feeling the juice your celebration of the team and everything like When did that like, all right, the momentum is in our favor right now. When did it turn into, oh, legit, we can win a Super Bowl this year? After we lost to Tennessee, the next week of practice, how we showed up. I had been a part of teams that lost games and showed up. Like, it was nothing. Guys showed up pissed.

Man. like working hard. You could see the lineman, like O line, D line, they were in fights with each other. It wasn't the, it wasn't the, I'm doing defensive scout team, an offensive scout team, and I'm just getting in your way. It was like,

they were trying to kick each other's butt. And I was like, man, these dudes, these dudes hungry, man. And you could start to see it. And we, I think right after that, we played the Niners, and the Rams hadn't beat the Niners

in like 11 times. and we blew them out, like literally blew them out. And that's when it was like, there's something here. There's literally something here. Then having that pissed off team after losing the Titans, how hungry were you guys to play them again in the Super Bowl? We couldn't have had a better opponent, literally. Could not have had a better opponent.

It came down to the last play, too. Could not have had a better opponent, man. It was like, if you go back and watch the game that we played them, in Tennessee. Like that game was hard, was just as hard fought as the Super Bowl. And to watch the effort

of Eddie George and the late Steve McNair, like the effort, like, watch the last drive. Steve McNair is leaving it all out there. I'm talking dog tired. And this dude is finding a way to stay up, fight guys off, complete

passes. And, you know. What was your vibe like on the sideline, seeing him drive down? Last play happening. I'm going to be honest, man. I was like, I was so calm because I just didn't think, I was like, I knew a little bit about Fisher. I was like, there's no way he goes for two. Because if they scored, they were tie.

But there was no way he was going for two. You know that route was ran wrong. That route, if that depth was just a little bit more. Oh, yeah. As a touchdown. But that's it, though. The discipline of the game is sometimes what causes, all the times is why you win or lose,

the discipline and how you do stuff. Mike Jones. Yeah. He's the one who had that final tackle. You also play with, I got to play with him. Hold on the Super Bowl. Stay on the Super Bowl. Stay on the Super Bowl.

I play for the Titans. 2019 were two quarters away from going to a Super Bowl. Tell me that feeling of running out of the tunnel for a Super Bowl to literally achieve a world championship. That moment. it, is you, like obviously,

extremely successful, like you've literally done everything you can possibly do as a football player. But, like, the opportunity to achieve, like, the holy grail

of a team sport. Like, what is that, was it moment massive? Or was it, like, how hard was it to stay, like,

kind of composed, just running out of the tunnel, knowing, win or lose, this is the last game of the year, and this is a legacy deal. I didn't even try to

stay composed. Smart. Like, what I did was, I allow whatever was going to happen to happen and that, you know, I was going to be able to gather myself and play the game. That's literally, when I ran out of the tunnel, I was so hyped.

Like, I started hyperventilating. I had to go to the sideline and get some oxygen. I was, like, so excited because as a kid, like my friends, and I'm from New Orleans. We're playing in Atlanta. I got so many people at the game, like people that spent the last to get there because they grew up. You spent that whole Super Bowl check trying to get everybody in there. And I'm thinking about my boys when we, you know, as kids, every time, it didn't matter what the score was. Oh, shit, the street lights coming on.

We got to get home. This play is to win the Super Bowl. I'm like, I get a chance. Man, you're crazy. Like, I was not going to hold anything back. And, you know, by the time when I ran out, I'm like, I'm amped. And I tie my, I wore myself out. I'm sitting on the bitch.

I'm like, I got to catch my breath. Yeah. Like literally from not coming up in high school. really, I started the game off tired. And it took, like, I had to catch my second win just to go out and play. That's how much adrenaline is going through your body to play that game. What a moment that would be. You're the MVP that year, too, right?

No, that was Kurtz. That was Kurt. You were second to Kurt, right? That's wild. Like, Kurt was no, Kurt Warner's number one. So three years in a row. So Kurt won, I was second. I won, he was second.

Kurt won, I was second. Three years in a row. To a guy who was filling grocery bags. Amen. The best grocery bagger in the business. No question. Details, details. Details were never on the bottom.

Like, he knew what the hell he was doing. Yeah. What was it like playing with him? Hey, best man I know, man. I tell people all the time. Like, I'm talking not just football player, but like person. You meet him? Like, so authentic, so authentic.

And just enjoyed playing with him. Um, he only got upset with himself. Uh, it didn't matter who was yelling at him. He's, he, he, he maintained who he was and he always stayed in, in his person and who he wanted to be, like a man of faith. Yeah. Always. Um, not going back to back. Spygate, Patriots taking it from, from us, from the Rams.

From us. St. Louis Rams. You were a Cowboys fan. I was a Cowboys fan, but you're still like, you know, when this, when the city. team wins. As a kid, you're on that bandwagon. You know what I mean? Like Marshall Falk was on the cover of Madden. You pretended to be guys like Marshall Falk, Trail, Davis, Eddie, George, out the front yard. But back to the question of not getting that back-to-back Super Bowl against the Patriots. Talk about that. Yeah. That was a tough one, man. You know, for a while,

I hung on that loss more than I did the win, you know, and, and, and, um, you just you just you know you got to let it go you literally let it go and and that's that's easy to do when you play sports you know you don't you don't really know how to really maintain what you need in order to enjoy the wins it's so much easier to go down and be pissed off about the losses so much easier you know because it it it becomes fuel to your fire you know you use it to like get stuff done you you know really when you're the best you're like, oh, I'm going to work out harder. You know, it's like it's harder to work out harder when you're the best.

It's easy to work out harder when there's some adversity or something's up against you. And so, you know, I really had to like work on like, man, I got to let this go. Like I enjoyed winning the Super Bowl more than I did, losing the Super Bowl. Why am I not talking about this as much? Yeah. Do you feel like there's any truth to the SpyGate? Um, Hey, man, look, I mean,

Hey, that's a yes. Let's just, let's just say this. It's, it's not one spy gate, it's two spy gates. There's all kinds of stuff that, you know, it's, but, but in this, in this, in this, in this business of professional sports, you know, Al Davis used to say it. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, man. And some people, some people, you know, you find it, you find a way to get it. in the game in between the lines it ain't holding if they don't call it yeah but spying if they don't if they don't call it they got to call it right the league has to throw the

challenge flag on itself yeah and they ain't never doing that yeah we're not going to be baseball remember that baseball got some tainted yeah yeah he ain't doing that no they're not not going to see no asterisk buying these super bowls yeah trust that when you uh when you come back to Obviously, you didn't play in Las Vegas for a Super Bowl, but during Super Bowl week, like, is there a piece of nostalgia every time you come back and do all this stuff? Always. Always. Always. Just the memories of, because when you're,

actually, when you're, like, so when I was in the league, I would not come to a Super Bowl until I played in one or until I won one. So I never came until, until then. I came in 94, and then I didn't come again until after 99, until after the 2000 season. So you're always wondering when you're playing, like, what's happening? What's going on out there?

What's happening? Yeah. And now being on this side of it, I'm always thinking about, like, man, what are they talking about? Like, what are they game planning? Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was

on a call about what we should call it. And, oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior. And that can lead me to sabotage the. possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well

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from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than me.

I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man.

If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice, One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's the scheme?

Like, the guys, what are they planning on? Because you talk about how much you're going, man, after we win you. this after we win this. Here's what we're going to do. After we win, oh, I can't wait. I can't. Like, you're manifesting your destiny. And so you're talking about it.

You can see it. And that's why when you lose, it hurts so much. Yeah. There's obviously a lot of passion in your voice. Like, where did you get this championship mindset? Has it always been since you were a young child? Or did it have to develop over a process of elimination of trying new things and kind of having to pivot if it, okay, this mindset, this way, this body of work is not

working for me right now? Like, where did you get to what we're seeing right now? When you do youngest, and because of age, size, or whatever, you don't get the win. It burns in you. Like, I, I, so basketball is my first sport. And my brothers, they all play basketball. And my two brothers that were really good, when I got big enough, they wouldn't play me. So they didn't want to lose to me.

So it's literally just, it's just a competitor at me. Yeah. You know, I compete at everything. Everything that I do, I compete. And I'm always competing against myself. I'm just trying to get better. I'm trying to live life better. Trying to be a better human every day.

There's got to be like with football players or anybody who plays a sport in general, there's got to be like this insane competitiveness about you in every facet. I feel like it doesn't leave any part of your life. Like what about it? What now are you like the most competitive in? Probably golf. Yeah? Yeah.

Big golfer? I love golf. I love golf. It's the most mentally challenging. thing that I've ever done in my life. Like it's, you know, I've never been so mad and disappointed in myself for not being able to mentally focus at something that doesn't hit back. You know, it's crazy.

If you could play somebody, a celebrity in golf, just to know that you could beat them, who would it be? To know that I can beat. Not know that you could beat that, but if you wanted to prove yourself, like a guy like Michael Jordan, we know he plays all the time. Like Tiger, like I would like to play Tiger. Like, I would like to play Tiger in a match and beat Tiger. You think he beat Tiger?

I'm saying, I would like to play Tiger in the match. And beat him. You guys think Tiger. Come on, man. Like, really? Have you seen the clip? There's a Barstow podcast called Foreplay, and they did a long drive competition with Tiger. Have you seen that clip?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's on his knees. Incredible. Out drives him? Out drives him. That is just crazy. Do you got any good, I got to play with London Fletcher, like, his last year. Pledge.

Dude, do you have any good London Fletcher stories? Because you was with him when he was young, like, undrafted, like he always had this look at his eye. He kept it in his entire career. But do you have any good London Fletcher stories? So the best, this is my best. I don't know if we, we named them. Dot com.

Dot com. Fletcher.com. So we started calling him dot com. But here's how I met London. I was on the coach and we had a joint practice because Jim Moore, he and Dick Vermil, they coached together at UCLA. So we meet at Champaign, Illinois, and we have a joint practice. All right.

And we get ready to do one-on-ones. And like the starting linebacker comes up. I don't remember who it was, and I came up. And I come out the backfield. I run a route, catch the ball. Then we move to the other side. I come up. The other starting linebacker came up, caught the ball on him.

And then it's time for me to go again. And the linebacker that's up is like we're number 66. and I turned around. I'm like, can y'all get somebody else in here? And it was London. It was London because it was his rookie year. And he was like, he was like, you don't want to go against me. You don't want to go against me?

I'm like, look, man, I ain't trying to get hurt messing with no rookie. All right? All right? And two years later, I'm playing with him. And we line up. And he reminded me. He was like, hey, I know you don't notice, but I'm, I was number 66 when we were in camp.

I said, okay. Did he ever, do you have your strap-your-one-on-ones? Oh, no, never, no, he couldn't. No, but, you know, Paz-Pro. A linebacker, back, such a cheap-go, man. Paz-Pro, you know, Paz-Pro, meeting him in the A-Gap, catching him off the edge. Yeah. He won his battles there.

You know, I put up a good fight, and I'm supposed to lose that. I'm just supposed to occupy your time. Right, right, right. I'm not supposed to win. I'm just supposed to get in your way. Yeah, die of slow death. Yeah. Yeah, but one-on-one, no chance.

I told him, I said, listen, here's the reality, the reality ain't whether I'm going to catch the ball. The reality is, you're not going to touch me. In this drill, me winning is whether you touch me or not. Has there been a linebacker to strap you, whether it's in a game? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's, it's going to happen.

Right. I mean, it's, yeah, it's happened many of times. But, but, like, We're talking situation. Right. You know what I'm saying? If it's third and I got to win, whatever that is, it ain't happening. Now, you can catch me on second down.

You can probably catch me, you know. But if we're calling a play and this play is, it's third in this. And we're going to, they're calling my route or a play to me unless they double team me. Like, and take me out and make the quarterback not throw it to me. I'm winning. That's just, that was like guaranteed. I mean, you essentially, I mean, you were. like known for the fall

crowd coming out of the backfield running vertical. I know that was absolute hell for any linebacker to have to do. Just cover Marshall out of the back to the- Listen, what are you thinking about? You're like, okay, is he going to break in? You're going to break out. Right.

And the minute he runs by you, you're like, oh. Are you strapping him down? Marshall? I mean, I'll, you know, I'll get him every now and then. You think so? Yeah, I mean, I'm going to have my day. I'm going to have my moment.

I'm going to guess right at some point. I'm like, yes, right at some point. The other time, I fell down. Come on, I'm going to get, I'll have to guess, but I'll guess right at some point. Then that's when I'll stop playing. You know what I mean? No, Marshall, you know, get somebody else out. I'm not trying to get hurt against somebody like you.

Dude, you were talking earlier about always wanting to be the running back, like, never leave the field, be that guy at all times. Talk about, like, when Stephen Jackson was coming in and you start splitting carries and splitting reps in the later part of your career. Like, how was that for you? So the story is different than that. When they drafted Steve and I had a conversation. Because Stephen and I had the same agent.

And I said to Steve and I say, look, here's the reality. And I told Mike, I said, here's the reality. If you want the job, you got to beat me out. I'm not giving it to you. Like, I'm not, you have to take this job. And I told him, I said, the only reason why that's the case is in this huddle, the best guy going to be here for these dudes. And so if you beat me up, you're the best guy.

That's it. But I knew I was, you know, I was, I think I was like 32, you know, and I was like, I couldn't play whole games anymore. I needed, you know, I needed to kind of split time a little bit. You know, I just, I wasn't the back I was. Right. I once was. So it was good.

He learned a lot. you know I sat down with him and went over film and talked about here's what I see here's what I'm thinking this is my pre-stap read you know whatever whatever I could teach him I taught him yeah you know just just in not like taking them under my wing just I want when he's in there I want him to have what I have and how I see things for the other 10 guys in there so man he was he was he was awesome man he was he was he was awesome man he He never, I mean, you're, you're an early pick. You know, you're playing behind, you know, guys in his 11, 12th year. Right. You know, and it's like, shit, you can't win the job. That could mess with your confidence, you know? It's a young man's game.

Yeah, that started to mess with your confidence. And the only thing that kept me in the game was because, you know, like the mental side of the game, you know, mentally, mentally. I just, I didn't make many mistakes. And when you can, when you can, when your mind is sharp and you can not make mistakes and you can be efficient with carries, always get positive yards. Although you don't hit the home run the way you used to and you're not, you can't do all the things that you used to do, you can still be effective. How was, how was that process when you started to figure out, okay, I can't hit the home run.

I am losing a step. Like father time and starting to catch up with you. Denial. A hundred percent, right? Oh, yeah. You're in denial. When did the denial turn into acceptance? Maybe the season before my last, so the 12th year.

I had a series of games that, I mean, I never got tackled by the first guy. And so it happened probably three or four games where single guy ran up on me. I put a move on him and he got me. And I was like, and I was like, man you know huh you just you're thinking like oh that was a good he barely got my leg

oh he barely oh he he hit my leg and it hit my other foot yeah and those are things that that first guy wouldn't even touch me right just a few years ago and now yeah and now yeah and now I'm getting tackled by the first guy to me that was like you know that's like a wounded animal out there

I'm like listen there's blood and water there's no way I talk too much smack when I play Like there's no way I'm going to be out here And I can't I can't make the first guy I miss I'm in trouble You were a shit talker on the field? Oh yeah Who's some of the best shit talkers you went against

Johnny Randall Rodney Harrison Straighthand talked all day Oh sap Oh my God Sab wouldn't shut up Yeah Would not shut up

Yeah It's impressive to see a big guy that doesn't shut up Yeah You know you can kind of motor around around that much and keep the jaw sets going the whole time. Right. Sap was the one. And he had an issue with this guard that we had,

Frankie Garcia. And he talked smack to him the whole game. Called his name out. Every time we was in her, Frankie, I'm coming to get you. I'm coming. Frankie, look at me. Anything you're saying to Frankie? Hey, Frankie, it's okay, brother.

We're here for you. Yeah. Oh, well, the first time it happened, he was like, Frankie, Frankie, Frankie. and Frankie, Frankie and I'm looking this way. Frankie's back as to Sabin. And I say, Frankie, he's talking to you. Oh, shit.

Frank, you got to do something, Frankie. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, nice? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's actually. Extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas. and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew.

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Was he a talker? Was Frankie a talker? Was he kind of keep himself? Frankie would have nothing to say. Frankie's a kill-in-what-kindness kind of guy, huh? Something happened. Frankie was playing somewhere else and him and Sapp. Something happened.

Yeah. And they had issues. And when that's when anytime Sapp played him, regardless of who he was playing on, he got after him. Damn. That's a bad guy to have on your back. How do you feel like the game has gotten softer

since your guys' era? I wouldn't say softer. They just, they're playing smarter now. In playing smarter, what they've done is unfair to defense. You know, guys are running across the middle like they're Bambi. They can't be touched.

They're trying to play brave. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, dude, stop running across the middle. you're going to get up talking smack to somebody because they can't hit you unless you look at them. Like if I, if, I always say, if I ducked, that mean I saw you. Yeah.

So that creates helmet to helmet. More helmet to helmet contact happens when a guy ducks. You're a linebacker, you're going in, he duck. Bam, helmet to helmet, flag on you. Right. They've put too much of his responsibility on the defensive guy. The quarterback throwing a ball, not protecting his receiver. The offensive coordinator calling these plays.

putting these guys in these kamikaze situations none of them are responsible and given a lot of interpretation up to the referee yeah putting them in a difficult position yeah and listen any any hit that looks bad they got to throw a flag got to they have to yeah what were your guys's off seasons like i'm trying to remember because we had all start on and he was talking about you know how the union how it shifted we asked for all this off time and stuff like that like what were you guys how long were your guys as off seasons? Like when did you have to report when, say your last game was in January? Yeah, so last game in January, let's say February we started offseason conditioning.

And right after the draft, offseason conditioning would be from February until the beginning of April and then you would leave after April. You'd come back right after the draft and do the first mini-camp. They'd have a, you know, if you were first and second year guy, with the rookies, you do that mini-camp. And then the next week, the vets would come, and you'd do another mini-camp with the vets and the rooks. Yeah, and camp was six weeks long.

Damn, man, we do that. I mean, we do. Soft. And not even talking about two days. Oh, yeah. Had to practice two days. Not for real, real two of days. Yeah, I was going to say.

Yeah. Not like, not like, helmets only two. Yeah. Like my rookie year or two-day would be like practice in the morning with pads. we'll jog through in the afternoon. Yeah. Nah, we were full strap 10 days in a row.

Full tackle too. Oh yeah, tackle to the ground. God, we all soft. Sure yardage and goal line, like live. Now, when you were Marshall Falk, MVP Marshall Falk, were you having to participate in all the two of days?

I still did it. Yeah, I still did it. Yeah, you all were different. Because, like, that was, I always, my conditioning was how I beat people. I was, like, you, when we got to the fourth quarter, I know you didn't work as hard as me.

I knew it. There's no way you worked as hard as me. No way. What was, what was it like? You had, you know, you had the skilled positions like yourself. You mentioned Tori Holt, Isaac Bruce. Was all your guys' work ethics just sickening like you're explaining? Yeah.

We pushed each other. Like, in conditioning, like, we were all, We race, we pushed each other. Like some of the stuff you saw in games wouldn't even close to what we did in practice. If you thought the greatest show on turf, and if you watch some of the practices, unbelievable.

Just unbelievable. The joint practices today are like the worst. It's like a war. I can't imagine what they were like when you played. Well, now, in today's game, that's all they have to, they understand if they get in the fight practice over. Yeah.

Yeah, but it's all. Also, like, there's not a whole lot of rules too at the same time. Like, there's not, you know, if you get in a little scuffle, like, there's not, you don't have to worry about penalties. Guys are playing a lot harder and a lot dirty. I feel like joint practices are actually more difficult than games to an extent. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

Like, for us, a joint practice was easier than our practice. Solo? Yeah, because a joint practice, I'm going against somebody who don't know me. When you're going against somebody, when you practice against somebody who know what you do every damn day. You know how hard that is to defeat him? Yeah. Every day.

It starts to learn everything. The team you got to play in your division, you got to play them twice. That second time you play him, it's hard. And if you play them a third time, you're like, we beat him twice. Can we beat him again? It's hard. But now you get to go up against another team that's like, oh, man, this is cake. This guy I don't know my tricks.

Right. Playing, make a lot of relationships in football, obviously. Who was, give me your top three teammates of all time. It doesn't have to be best players. Just the boys you're hanging out with the most. Todd Light, Tori Hote, and who else? Oh, a guy that, so this is funny. So my backup in college was my backup in the pros.

For real? Yeah, a guy named Justin Watson. How to get to the NFL playing behind you? If you say you'd never come off the field. It just happened. No way. Was he younger than you? Yeah, like, you leave, he has a year, he's doing it.

Oh, gosh, yeah. Yeah, I left. So he was my backup. I left. He had two years. He was in camp with the Chargers. He was in camp with the Chargers, was on their practice squad for two years, and then got picked up when I got traded to the Rams. You got any good, your best post-Supon memory in that next week two span after you guys winning the title?

Oh, man. Just every, everywhere I went. I think I spent I spent the week down in Miami, South Beach, rented a yacht, like just, just,

the boys just on a bender. Yeah, I mean, I was, I mean, you got to remember, I never won anything in football.

Like, I never won anything in football, man. You know what I'm saying? You never, like, I never, I won a championship

in basketball, baseball, I won state running track. I never won a championship in football. And my, the first championship I went in football

is in the NFL. I lost my damn mind. Now y'all must been going crazy too. Most money you spent in a night. So I was a smart part of you. You know, I didn't always take it on.

I always had teammates with me. So we split the bill. We always split the bill. No credit card roulette or nothing like that? I mean, that happened a couple of times. Yeah, but just make sure you didn't get got. Yeah, I mean, you don't make sure. You know, I've, I've, yeah, I mean, it's happened.

It's happened. What's the heaviest bill you've seen? one of the trips we took to Vegas Oh shit Flavre Flavre Oh shit Marsha What your name?

What the fuck? What's up my man I have to come to you man Yeah What's up, bro? Flavre and how are we doing Good seeing you man We saw you in Michigan

Yeah Michigan Michigan versus Nebraska a couple years ago I had to come in here and scum my own version of a touchdown. Dude. Right here. How you doing, my brother? I'm good, man.

I'm good. No complaints, man. I mean interrupt. No complaints. No interruption. I got to break out, man. You know what I'm saying? I just want to come spend some love, man.

Probably see you probably late on tonight. Let's do that. Okay? My man. My man. Uh, excuse me. You're good. Welcome to Bustin with the boys, man.

Hey. I take care. God bless you. Yeah. See in a few, Mars. Right on, man. Hey, I did see him back there. I saw that chain.

I was like, is that? You did? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fibb just jumping in. Hey, what a way to end the show. Yeah. How do you know Flavor Flav?

Oh, man. You used to Super Bowl winner. Yeah, yeah. I know, bro. Yeah. He was on that yacht. It's him popping in, yeah. Hey, man.

Me and Flav, we go back, man. That dude's a pioneer, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta love some Flav. Who's the first dude you were starstruck by? Him.

Flavor of love. Probably, I was in college. I just, like, bursted onto the scene. My freshman year the next year, and I went up to L.A. to watch Martin, and to get to meet Martin Lawrence, you know, like in the time when he was doing, Martin, oh, man, I was just like, you know,

I wasn't in time. the whole Hollywood thing. But to see, like, you know, most actors play somebody else, but Martin is Martin. Like, Martin is Martin Lawrence. So, like, you're getting to see the dude be himself. Yeah.

It was just like, damn, this is this dude is, this Martin, man. He was like the first star star that I met. How about, I'll flip it, who was the first dude who, you weren't necessarily Starstroke by, but you're surprised that they were super, like knew who you were,

or was Starstroke, about you. You're like, oh, man, this dude, he knows who I am. Someone comes up there. I'm a big fan of you. You're like, bro, you're you. Right. Yeah.

Like Charles Woodson in here early. He's like, oh, yeah, busting with the boys. I'm just, oh, Charles. Yeah. I'm trying to, like, we got a call. I'm trying to think. I think it was, I think it was Jay-Z. We got a call because he wanted a jersey.

He wore it in a video. He's in a, like, he's, wearing a bunch of videos. This was like, you know, late 90s, J, maybe early 2000, J. One of my, one of my jerseys is in his video. Oh, that's a good one. Like, I was like, me? Like, my jersey?

You know, cats from New York, they don't want to, they don't want to outside his jersey. When you're from New York, they're wearing all New York and stuff. Man, that's awesome. That is sick. Anthony, should we ask him anything before we leave, before we head out? Is he still in here? No.

Oh, absolutely. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

And, oh, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title

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I know we've been having some good times here, but as you guys see, like, literally I went to talk to some high schoolers. And these kids, man, they have no idea. They have no idea. Fentanolin drugs, what's going on. And they're curious. And a lot of the times, as you know, we were kids. the many of your parent or somebody said, say, don't do?

What do you do? You do. Curious, yeah. And we've just taken a different approach. I tell people, go to drugfreeworld.org. We're not going to tell you to say, we're not going to tell you no. We're not going to tell you to don't do. We're going to tell you educate yourself.

Like, just like you use Google, go to our site, get the information. Don't let your friend tell you, this drug made me feel like this. And then you try it and you die. Right. Something crazy happens. literally we have educator kits information anything and everything under the sun that you would need just to understand before you try it

what's out there for you what got you into that um i just i grew up around drugs and listen i made it to the hall of fame and i wasn't the best player on my team in high school there's i wasn't the best player in my community i mean you seem like you played a position i would almost assume that you were probably Probably the best player in your school. He was won six games. I wasn't, bro.

You guys won six games. You played every position. I'm telling you, man. The best guy sometimes didn't show up. You know, he was cool. He was smoking weed. He was cool. He was, you know.

And then eventually, you know, that guy was the guy, you know, after my rookie year, I go back home. He's the guy on drugs. You know, it's like, so, you know, what do you do? How do you let people know? I believe the best way to let people know is by educating him. and giving them the opportunities to like, hey, at your own liberties, go to the site, drugfreeworld.org, get the information, make the right decision. Was it just like an area that just touched you to be like, I want to like get in the space or

was there anybody close to you? I was always in space. I grew up around it. Yeah. I grew up around it. You know, it, it has touched me deeply. You know, I've lost many of your friends. I've had family members partake and have issues, you know, and recover.

you know yeah to live a better life but everybody don't make it right everybody don't how how you know in your experience do you approach conversations like that with somebody close to you that you would you know it's like you want to immerse yourself into their world and try to help them out but you struggle like bridging that gap for people that are like watching right now i know i think of a couple situations in my circles where you're like you're just trying to find the lane of like getting them the help they getting them the help they need um i guess without like being like forcing yourself onto them like in your experience like what advice would you have with that um what i what i what i say is and what i'm always trying to do is um anything anything that we

we find ourselves needing in life you got to find out why Like, well, why do I like that? Why do I need to do this? What is this masking? Because it's masking something. And if you can get down to the core, then you can solve the problem. And the reality is they might not want to, they might not want the problem solved. They might like how they live, how they live their life.

And when that's the case, then you got to back off. Because until they are ready, it's not going to happen. You can't make it happen for them. I can't make it happen for them. they have to be ready. Yeah, that's like the hardest part, right? It is. Yeah, just trying to get somebody to get it out of their own way.

And, like, backing up when you're just like, you know, you care about somebody and you're, you know. Yeah. Because anytime that type of situation where you're dealing with somebody that's using or abusing, it's like you want to help them, but usually with people that are abusing something when you go and approach them with that situation. Yeah. It's usually met with resistance. And it ends up in a kill the messenger type of situation. Yeah. Do you go around and speak a lot?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the idea is that it's just street drugs. It's not just street drugs. You know, there's some prescription drugs that's out here. I mean, prescription drugs are a whole other ball game. Like, I mean, playing, obviously, you get in there. They give you a couple pills.

Like, hey, this is you make you feel a whole better? You take it. And you're like, oh, I get it. I understand why people get addicted to these things and their lives end up getting ruined because it is, I mean, it's a deal. It's a bit of a deal. It's awesome. you go and do that too like you were obviously pivotal and influential on the field first bout

hall of famer and so you have influence beyond that and it's really cool to hear that you go around and speak and and try to you know advise and mentor and speak to kids because you're you know you're martial falk bro you are martial falk got to use the platform for you know others just other than just making money yeah yeah you got to make a difference too in this world no question man last one hang on hang on right before he goes, first ballot Hall of Famer. What was it like that knock on your door, however it happened? Were you expecting in your head? Are you like, I am a first ballot hall of famer,

so let's see how this shakes up? So I'm going to tell you the story, all right? It's just a true story. But this was before the knock. This is like you gathered with your family and friends. They announced it. They brought you to the Super Bowl, and then you would go meet somewhere,

And they would do like a press conference, wherever that was for the people that decided to come. And I was so sure. Like I was like, there's no way that I'm not getting in. No way. You know, that's all I kept thinking. And my agent did a deal with Anheuser-Busch being that it was in St. Louis at the time. headquarters and at the Bud Light Hotel

when the Bud light when Bud used to be when Ana Zubush was the when Butt was the beer but light was the beer at NFL they had a hotel like the bottom floor I mean we packed it with

two 300 people that's there you know and we're watching and I'm standing and as they come on and they're getting ready to call the names the first time ever I thought

what if they don't call my name. I'm sitting there like, what if they don't call my name? Like, we just got all these people here. We're at the buttline. People here. I mean, and when I think back, I'm like, man, that's like somebody saying no or running away at the altar. I'm thinking to myself, oh, my God, what if they don't call my name? You start looking tactically, like at all the exits. Like, where's the easiest way out of here if they don't call my name? Yeah. Try to figure out. Yeah. And then, man, like three names in, they said my name, I was like, oh my God. Yeah, I got in your head too much.

Oh, man. And from there, from there, literally, they, wherever you're at, because you tell you got to tell them where you're going to be, car pulled up, takes me to the place, take me to the place where they're doing an interview. And on the ride, like your football life is literally planning your head from your league coach, your high school coach, things that people taught you, things that people taught you, things like how many people have been on this journey with you to end up you know in in this place like like hold on wait like there's at the time like there's only 200 and like 16 like 275 at these guys and

and I'm one of them like are you kidding me yeah man like that like it starts to dawn on you um regardless of how confident you are you look at it like damn like down like that you know, that's, that's pretty damn neat. It's forever, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and that's it. Like, in reality, that's all we want to do is be remembered.

Right. And now to know that now to know, forever generations can go identify with me as their relative or, you know, like that's, and there's a place. Yeah. Can in Ohio. Man, thank you so much. It's all good, fellas.

Yeah, it's all good. Awesome time. I appreciate you making the time, man. This is... Right on. Fun, man. That was awesome. Anthony, we got out of. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?

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