Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Max Homa Explains Whether Or Not Golf Is A Real Sport + The Importance Of Caddies

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

With the Masters Tournament being this weekend, we decided to give you guys the only golfer we have had on the show. Everyone enjoy their weekend and enjoy a trip down memory lane with this episode.   Max Homa joined the pod while the boys were out in Arizona. Max talks about what life is like as a golfer on the PGA Tour. Homa tells the boys what the Waste Management Open is really like from the perspective of player. He tells some crazy stories and how he thinks the tournament is actually good for golf. After tournament talk, Max dives into how he got into golf and things that could/should be changed to make the "sport" more appealing to the younger generation. The Boys may be the good luck charm for Max as he just finished 2nd in the following tournament. Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So let's get over that real quick. How many kids do you have? You have one kid? I have one, yeah. How many more kids do you want? man no more than one more really yeah i'm not i think but i think it's a product of like i grew up in a two kid household and that my wife she was cool with three because she grew up in a three kid household but now she's pretty much on two i could do just one i think but i'm also in like

the three and a half i mean you're in the three and a half month grind right now where it's like it's just getting a little less hard so i can see like the light at like oh this is really fun. But so many people, I feel like the day you have your kid, they're like, it's the greatest day your life. Like, everything's just like gravy from here. And it's like, I think you guys forgot about how hard the first month is where you don't sleep like at all. Like not like, like, like, if you got an hour, you're like, oh, man, I feel so good. And it's like, I think people forget. But now that you get that over that three month hump, I could see having a second one. But right away, people like, oh, man, like, you know, how many are you going to have? I'm like,

one. One. One. I'm cool. Like, this is impossible. There's a, Andy Sandberg is a comedian. He was on a like a late talk show one time. And he was talking about having a kid. And as like your wife is pregnant, everyone's like, it's a blessing. It's gonna be the greatest day of your life.

And then once the kid's born, everyone's like, welcome to hell. Like they just trick you into like also getting into hell. Dude, that first six months, I mean, Willie's coming out,

his daughter's about to be a year. I got a five-year-old. Already? 10 months, man. Yeah. I went super, you were like in my boat. What was yours three and a half?

Almost four, yeah. Almost four months. You get to that six month mark. really like the first six months is like, just keep it alive. Yeah. Like you got to feed it,

poop it, make sure it's like breathing at all times. And then like once you get to six months, that's when like the personality really starts to show. Yeah. You get the smiles when you walk in the door type thing. But I got a five year old that it's like, full blown like it's my little buddy.

We're ripping around. Yeah. Yeah. We have conversation. She's into Pokemon. Like it's like a nice little. It's a cool. Yeah.

Because like having similar interests. Yeah. We do have the pooping thing aligned. I do like to poop. Yeah. You or them. He wipes me, but I'm saying he also likes it. So, like, that's our similarity. Like, that's our link right now.

Yeah. But the problem is, like, you know, he has someone wipe his own ass for him. And I still have to, I have to do both of those things. So that's where we're kind of misaligned is. I feel like he, it's like, it's like for him, it's just straight up for joy. Yeah. Yeah, it's just joy. I do have to work a little bit, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. So he hasn't reciprocated. But you got to get him another. I don't want to tell you how to live your life. You got to get him a buddy. I know. But, like, when you're in the beginning of it, man,

that's just, like, the hardest thing to think about. Because you're just like, man, I'm already. Yeah. Marty in it. It's just as hard as I could possibly imagine. And then we travel so much, man. And it's just like, we just did our first flights. What was that?

Three weeks ago. And every time, like, we do anything. I'm like, how do people do this with two fucking kids? I was like, I have the backpack with the stroller on. You know, that you carry it, like the satchel. And I mean, Lacey, my wife was saying I almost ran into like 100 people. And I'm like, well, that's just their problem at this point because I'm overwhelmed. So I can't imagine too. But obviously you get to that point, I'm sure where it's like that it makes more sense that it seems reasonable at this point in time.

I am right now it's almost like, you know, you're about to take off. You can get in the bottle. You can kind of like have them on the carrier. But now that Rue is like 10 months. Like I'm going to be honest, she was hell. Like if we're if we're coming out of training camp, she's getting cut. flying down to Austin and flying over to AZ. Now, flying to AZ wasn't as bad. We got her to sleep down in the seat. But like, they're just wanting to move and do everything. Oh, yeah.

It's like, a few hour of flight. I'm glad he's still immobile because I was not a football player. I'm not ready to chase something around. I walk. Yeah. I can walk fast, but I don't jog a whole lot of time. So I'm a little scared for when I can't find him. He's just running away, shitting and pissing and scream.

I'm cool with him in one place. I know when he screams now. I know exactly where he is. Yeah. I'm scared for the days where he's going to be like, like Rahm was telling me yesterday. He's like, you know,

they have to obviously like his kid is a little over a year, I think, two years maybe. Yeah, two years. And he, you know, he's like,

he's like, he's trying to climb out of the crib. And I'm just like, that's the scary. I know my kid's going to be right where I left him at all time. So I can, I'm cool with that.

That's a grind, dude. It's an absolute grind to have a kid. But I think you got going for you is, I mean, the boy made some bags. Yeah. A few weeks ago. That's a nice little deal right there. You keep doing that.

And no more Southwest. Yeah, man. It's a nice little plane. Just go ahead and, hey, you can cry and run around wherever you want. We did do that on the way home from San Diego. And it was really nice. Like, it was really relaxing. I will say, though, to all the parents out there who don't fly as often as I do and

they feel bad when their kid, like, screams on a lot. a plane. I've been on as many planes as I think, like, anybody really has. And at some point, I got over it. It's like, they make noise canceling headphones now. Yes, bro. That's all you got to do. Orr brought that up yesterday. It's a kid. Like, they're going to scream. I mean, maybe when I was like 20, 21 years old, I was like, God, it's annoying. I got the kid behind me. But it's like, they got noise canceling headphones. I even thought, like, if I, if I was just making crazy, crazy money, I'll just buy everybody noise canceling headphones. Just bring a, bring a Oprah.

Bring a bag on the plane, hey guys. You get a headphone. You get a headphone. Yeah. Here you guys go. No complaining now, though. Like, I'm good.

You're good. It seems natural, though. Like, I was like, it would be internally in my head. I'm like, man, this kid quiet down. But now that you're a parent, you're like, you know, the parents are, the parents are, they're in about way worse than you are because there are parents who are like, man, you want to quiet down because you know how everybody else might feel because you were once there at one point in time.

Not like actually looking. Like people who look and give like faces, it's like, yo, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah, dude, if you have the face, you can go fuck this. Yeah. If it's like an older woman. It's always the older woman that kind of looks like, what do you, what are you doing and say, ma'am, you're sitting in the middle seat in Southwest.

You had to see you 30 through 60. It was going to be a tough flight for you regardless. There's a disconnect. I do believe this. There's a disconnect because it is more expensive. It's public transportation. It's just a bus in the air. If I was on a bus and someone was screaming, I've been on bus.

I lived in Berkeley for four years. I'm on buses where people are taking pisses in the aisle. And it's like you just didn't even batten an aisle. You go on the bar and there's just a homeless who lives there. It smells terrible. But you're like, yeah, this public transportation. But for some reason, when you're up in the clouds, people expect everybody to, you know, wear like a suit and tie and just read.

But like... I kind of like that. It really is... I want to know why people are pissing in the middle of the aisle at a bus. He said he grew up in California. You got homeless people. Berkeley's got a big homeless population. You see a lot of shit.

And I mean that quite literally. Well, like, California is El Dorado for the homeless community. That is a place you really need to get in. Got a everywhere's ocean. Yeah. People in Minnesota that are homeless are like, have you heard about this place in California? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could get there, dude.

Yeah, yeah. Someday I'm going to head west. He's been saying that for three years. He'll never do that. I was doing Minnesota last time I was there. And that guy's a brave man. It gets fucking cold. It's fucking cold in Minnesota, dude.

I mean, like, if I was, I would just live in San Diego and it would be great. Yeah. I mean, that would be awesome. Yeah, if you want, you can stumble over to Mexico real quick. Go to TJ. Great point. You have a couple of nice shows coming back. A lot of entertainment.

down there in Southern California. A lot of entertainment. You live in Sendegro now? No, I'm here. I'm 20 minutes from here. But I grew up in Los Angeles. But we've been here four years now. You a Paradise Valley guy?

I'm Arcadia. Oh, yeah. Arcadia is a little farther south of Paradise Valley. Money. Paradise Valley is like Paradise Valley. Arcadia is like the nicest area of Arizona. Yeah. I grew up in Cave Creek.

Oh, no way. Yeah. So we just moved Arcadia. We were living up by like. like where TPC is. We were living by like Kierlin. Yeah. For a while.

But Arcadia feels kind of like California. It does have those kind of vibes. It's weird. Like real job down a neighborhood in Arcadia and it'll be like lush. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. It's a cool setup for sure. For Arizona, it's different.

But yeah, it is, it has been funny living down there because like there is a, I'm not a 40-20 guy, but. But Arcady. 40-20 people down there. Yeah. You just got to go a little north. I know. But Cave Creek. It's more salt of the earth there.

I believe that, but I just can't... My wife and I can't do the... I haven't fallen in love with a cactus yet. That's a beautiful thing, brother. I think that's fair. Yeah. I know you guys take a lot of pride in the cacti. Yeah, it's kind of like all we got.

And they call them sororos out here. They can differentiate between cacti, which I'm just like, it's just a cactus. Yeah. There's lots of difference. There's the Choyah. I think what's interesting is how long this... Have you heard about the jump in Choya?

Yeah. Oh, you... Hey. Fuck them up right now. Explain them a jumping toy. The, what is this called? Jumping Choya. They're like, basically, like, the defense mechanism of a Choya is if you get close to it,

it'll literally lean into you and then get you, so it'll get you away from it. And it's one of those things, like, if you, like, touch it, it breaks off real easily, so it'll be, like, all over your hands and arms and stuff like that. And they're, like, they look like big bushes and you can just, like, stacks of just prickles everywhere. My buddy put his foot over one once. It was on the ground. He put his foot over it, kind of screwing around. Like, oh, I'm going to step on it.

And it, you. Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah. Like, what's the point of those things? You know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point.

What kind of value are they adding? I'm sure they do. Like, I'm sure somebody, somebody's out there pissed off right now. Like, how does Will fucking not know? No, I mean, I think the choice, like, only here. Here in, like, New Mexico. Yeah. Like, it's kind of like a, it's a rare thing.

It's interesting how long cactuses can live. Yeah. Yeah, that's a fun thing too. Swaroski, like, 200 years old. It's wild. But this is not with this podcast. Yeah, not here. We're here about the plants.

You are, so you're doing the waste management, obviously. Are you guys going to come out? We're thinking about, we're thinking about Saturday, right? Yeah, we're thinking about Saturday. That's a good day. Yeah. And then, so how does, like, waste management to me growing up here especially. What's that?

He hit one last year. You got one last year. You got one last year, didn't you? Oh, one what? No, that was Sam Ryder. Oh, shit. That's crazy. That's just us not doing our homework because I legit, I was sitting with Will there being like, damn, did he really get a hole in one?

But that, like, how does the waste management, like, how is it different from things like Augusta and like other places? Because it seems like it literally is out of like Happy Gilman. Oh, it says, yeah, it really is. Shooter McGavin would struggle here. So this I put in context, they don't tell you exactly how many people come through the gates, but I know roughly. So on a, on a given, even a good, good golf tournament day, like I would say Farmers and insurance two weeks ago. Final round probably had... That's where he made his bags.

25, 30,000 people. Yeah. Which feels like a lot at a golf tournament. It's spread out, but it feels like a lot. Saturday at the waste management this week will probably have 250,000 people. It's like the top five, six sporting event in a day. And it's all week. I mean, yesterday's Monday, it's the first day where the course is open to practice.

Sorry for the fans. But typically, even some of the events don't even open. And, you know, you'll trickle in like a few people. of Monday, people have jobs. I mean, yesterday was still chaos. I mean, it was so many people. So it's different. But my story that explains that we call it, all the golfers call it a party that

a golf tournament broke out at. So it's like, if we were here drinking, then all of a sudden you're like, you know, you want to go mess around on that putting green? And like that's, that's like the scale. So my first year ever playing it, um, I, I tee off on Thursday, off the back nine and 16s, you know, right where like everyone filters in through 10, they walk past 10, past 11, then filter into six. 16. And I walk off the tea. I got, you know, all my golf clothes on, spikes on, looking like a professional golfer. I got my catty carrying the clubs looking like a caddy. And there's a huge line of people on them. There's these two attractive women in front of me and I say, excuse me. And they're in like heels and dresses and all this shit. And they like look at me and look back away. I was like, excuse me. Like I'm just trying to get through to the fairway. And she gave me like the, I have a boyfriend look.

Oh, no. And I was like, what the fuck are we? doing. I'm working. Like, you're here because there's a golf room, but most of people don't even, like, that's not even part of it. Like, that's not the vibe. I mean, they have clubs. Like, I have, uh, my buddy, I don't know if you guys know the, you know, he's just Mike now, but Mike Studd and all those. We are. Yeah, he's one of the boys. Yeah, he's, he's been in the pot a few times. They rolled through last year, him, blue and all the boys. And I got them passes this thing called the Greenskeeper. It's left of 18. And it's like, I've never been, I've never got to see anything. But it's kind of like a day club.

like outdoor day club and he's like hey i'm gonna come out uh and i was like okay i got you guys these wristbands um and he's like no we want to watch you play golf i said okay but i was like let you know like it's really fun like every day but especially saturday i like don't feel obligated to come watch me play like get in there so i text him after i was like hey man sorry like i didn't say hi like there's just a lot of people out there whatever he goes he's like i think he texts me two days later because he was like never even left the greenskeeper like it was just too much fun because it's just like beer garden. So, like, people don't even know there's golf going on. 16, you know, but you're there just to boo and get really drunk.

And it's, it's different from anything ever. Because every other golf tournament is the, it's the golf tournament's the priority. In this case, like, that is the alcohol is the priorities. Yeah. It's like a massive part. Especially that 16th hole, dude, it's crazy. It's insane. How do you get, go ahead, Bob?

I was just going to say, how you feel about everyone's starting to throw all that alcohol onto the, so I like, the green, like how it was like chaos. It was a little much. So basically, they had to change it this year. I'm not going to go out here and say it's like life and dead dangerous. But I mean, people are chucking, you know, hands at you that are full of beer. And like, you know, Colt, my buddy Colt got hit with one last year. And he's like, didn't feel good.

I don't mind it. It's crazy. I like this. This is good for golf. I don't think every week, but it's good for golf. But they are putting cups in solo cups this year. So if you do chuck them, at least like we're not going to get beaned. But I don't know.

I like it. It's fun. It's, it's chaos. It's crazy. It's like we golf is such like an older, older person's sport that like making it younger and all this and that, whatever. The only problem with last year that we got a little of that they're starting to do it for

anything. Like they crave, it's like, you crave the chaos. And they're like, man, if he, if he makes this 30 footer,

we're going to throw it and then they'll miss. And he's like, he taps it in though. We'll throw it too. It's like, eh, okay. Or,

you know, like, make it, like for the whole and one, like go nuts. For a bunker shot you make. go nuts, long putt, go nuts. It did feel like last year was kind of like anything we can possibly make happen

and make worth it. We're going to do it. But it's cool, man. It's a, it's rare. I have my favorite funniest stories from this event. And last year was up there with the most dehumanizing and also kind of funny thing ever. But I was in a late group on Saturday, I think. And we get to 15.

I'm making like a little charge. And I don't know why the people who set the tournament up did this, but there's a port-a-potty, like on the tea. and it is really close to a lot of people. And, you know, obviously they're quite noisy. And I had a healthy stream that day. So I hop in there and everyone watches me going there and I could hear people like, you know, chanting as I'm like in the bathroom.

And it's like really uncomfortable. And I get out and I just get like, I mean, they're already standing, but it was still like a standing ovation. Like a roar happens as I leave this bathroom. I like to Joe. And I'm like, dude, I don't even feel like a fucking person anymore. Just for a piss. Like thank God I didn't have to take a shit.

Because like that, it just would have been a tough one in there. So you have that. I've had my favorite heckles have been at this one. So it's a great event. It's just, it's very different. Is it a, when you're looking at like your first couple of times doing the waste management, is there like a level of phomo that you had at any point being like these people are having every year?

Every year. I remember like, I don't know about you, but like being on the buses going to like college football and seeing all these, all these people tailgating. And like, damn, I've never been to a tailgate. to do all the tailgitting. Yeah. So we roll reverse. It is hard, man. I guess like last year I got I got all these friends in town. And like one night, you know, like, I get invited to go to dinner with like Goff, who I'm buddies with and Yelich and all like, just like my favorite, like coolest athlete friends who we keep up with each other. But I can never get to see them because they're

busy when when I'm not busy and I'm busy when they're busy and they're like, man, we're going out to bottle blonde tonight. You know, I know it's probably hard, but you want to come and I'm just like, fuck you. Yeah. Like I want to go. But and then they're like, no, you're not coming. I'm like, I know. But like, you just, all the parties are this week and it's so much fun and everyone's out and watching people like just drink while

we're all golfing and just seem like truly having the time of their lives. Well, I'm just like wrestling between making bogeys, birdies, and pars. It's just like, it's just not nearly as fun. Changing diapers. Yeah. Chasing diapers. Yeah. Now this week, Super Bowl week. Yeah, now it's Super Bowl. It just makes everything sure. much more. It's just crazier. But I don't know, man. I have FOMO every year at this event. But there have been times like my favorite, like last year's Saturday. My last like five holes is my like one of my favorite things that's happened to me in golf. Just because when you do perform in front of those people, you guys would get this more. We don't get this very often. But it's like the rush of it is well, you know, it's worth not drinking the beers. But yeah, there's still times from like, God dang, it looks pretty. You know, if I get it on like a little.

bogey run. I'm like, I could just be out there right now. Like, I got full acts. I got this little credential gets me everywhere. I could be doing all the coolest stuff. But I don't know. It's a, it's a good straightoff. Here's a question. How important in the scheme of G.A. rankings and all that is the waste management. That's what I'm thinking is this. Why not become the golfer that's drinking while you're playing? John Daly. Not a lot. Yeah. Oh, he, John Daly? He does that. He's allegedly. He smokes cigarettes and drinks. He's the fun. He's the Because you're not allowed to drink.

We're not allowed to. Yeah. Maybe that'll be a rule we could knock down. Just for this tournament. Yeah. Just for this. Like, when you go to Augusta, I've never been, but it's like the hot dogs are still the same prices. They wore the day they open. They have like this prestige. Yeah. Like, only like presidents and like senators can like golf on this place other than pro golfers.

Like, why not make the waste management like the ultimate like fuck you to golf in a way that like takes these younger generations? and it's like, oh, we want to do this shit. This is awesome. It's not a terrible... Yeah, we could have a one-off. Renovators. And you're just getting hammered while you're playing golf. Yeah, it's like, do you guys watch The Wire?

I've not seen The Wire. Oh, but I hear it's incredible, dude. There's so many shows out there now that are amazing. Like, Last of Us is now a thing that everyone's watching. Well, the Wire's old. Hey, listen. But they have a thing called Hamsterdardam where, like, in Baltimore, they made, like, you could do drugs in one square mile.

You could do whatever you wanted. There was no rules. And, like, that's what this event should be. It's like, yeah, the one place we're like, we'll turn a blind eye to this. That's perfect captioning. Max Homa thinks heroin should be allowed. Yeah. No, no drugs.

Hey, you brought that up. What's one rule you would change in golf? Man. Big Cat, Big Cat did say something on part of my take once. I don't know if you guys have heard that one, but where he said that you should be allowed to fight one fan a year in like any sport. And I was like, last year at the PGA. In Oklahoma, I was telling Joe, my caddy about that rule. There's this fucking guy that was just weird.

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I was like, that's the fucking guy. Like, that's my guy. But I said, we have to be smart about it. So I'm not like a super large man. I'd pick a small guy.

And I just go to town. And I think, I think that would be, that would be a good one. Obviously pretty, pretty unrealistic, unrealistic rule change. But definitely something we thought of,

I do think that, I do think that, like, live towards doing it like shorts. I don't mind. Like, you should, you could wear shorts.

It makes this seem like at least a little less dorky, although some people got like very white legs. But I don't know. The real one is, I guess the real one I would do is like range finders, the lasers you shoot the pin distance-wise, I would use. Because if everyone has one, I don't see the advantage of it. So it's like, might as well do it. It'll speed things up to an extent.

It makes things easier on everybody. That one seems pretty basic, but we'll see. So speaking of like fighting guys, Is there a golfer that you would give in the opportunity when maybe throw hands with? I mean, I get, yeah, I mean. But it could be anybody in a given. Somebody on the front of your mind.

You can say them, you don't have to say them. Who do you think you could take in the tour? I could take, like, I could take a lot of, I was, I'm blessed. My dad was a boxer growing up, so he taught me at a box. So I'm a very unassuming, like, I know I could. at least. I'm also not scared to get my ass beat. Like that's, I think that's neat. I think at some point, yeah, like, like, like, we fall, obviously, you guys are all going to kick my ass. Like, I'm cool with that. But, like,

I'd rather do that than, like, run. So I'm going to at least stand in there and take a few. But yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of guys on tour. I would, I would like my chance against, but it's not like I dislike that many people or really anybody enough to just be like, I'm just going to bite them. But, I mean, there's times when you're pissed off and it's kind of just any, when you make like four bogeys in a row, it's kind of just anybody. Yeah, anybody's wrong thing. I'm ready right now. My dad always had this joke. I wore a, uh, or this ugly-ass pink shirt when I was a junior golfer and this guy, uh, we were leaving the course. I paid so bad. I'm so mad, steaming in the

front seat. I'm probably like 15, 16 and this guy cuts off my dad. He's usually like a little more of the hot head than me. And I start yelling at the car. The guy in front, my dad goes, my dad goes, if you want to get out, you can get out. And he was like, could you imagine, like on the news, like, like, golfer in pink shirt just beats the hell out of some road-raged driver. And I was like, yeah, it probably wasn't going to go that way. I probably, you know, end up flat on my back. But we have no, I've always been scared of a golfer actually fighting another golfer

because, like, we just had a T-throwing incident a year, a week ago in Dubai. between Rory Macquarie and Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed like flicked a tea towards Rory and it was a humongous story, which is pretty sad. And I'm really nervous that if we ever, anybody did get in a real altercation, we just never make things look cool.

And we can't make fighting look cool. Like there's just no way since two golfers are actually going to have like a real fist fight that you're like, oh, wow. You know, it's going to be like, oh boy, you know? Yeah, that was a bad look for, all of us. So I hope it never have. It would bring viewers to the, you know.

It would bring viewers and everyone would cringe and like kind of be like, okay, you know, I didn't need to see that. So I feel like it's good that most of us are are smart enough not to ever really even get into a hold me back situation. We avoid it at all costs. Is there an internal rivalry that you have that your opponent doesn't even know he's a part of? Multiple, but not in a I don't like them way. Right. Like, you know, I want to beat him. way. Man, Tom Kim,

and he has the same thing. I know he does because his catty is one of my best friends. I know he has the same thing, but we played singles at President's Cup. The sad part is he's 20. I'm 32. Hold on one second. Yes, sir. I don't.

Whoa. So are you going to abide by what you're being told? Hey, Dave. Going to meet you. We're doing, we're working. We're going to line, brother. No, we're just trying to do our part. We got 9,000 shows. People can talk.

You know why we're doing. And we've got people coming up being like, you can't talk. Do you know why we're doing this down here? Because we're doing the rundown. Right yesterday. Because you asked to do it. That's all I'm saying is we're trying to do this thing. Can we talk up there or no?

You're allowed to talk. I mean, yeah, like maybe. This is your house, you know? Yeah, I don't know. That's why I said. I came in and like the busing guy says no one can talk up there. So what did you say? What was your reaction?

I walked my ass down here and asked permission to talk. Okay. All right. I hope your shows go well up there, Dave. Thank you. You never know what you're going to get with him. You know, when he made the comment, I was thinking about it too, and he was like, when you're 53, 54th guy on the roster,

you're going to be early to the meeting. It's like when you're the owner, you can show up whenever you want to. But it's like, yeah, if you want to run a piss poor organization. Lead from the front. He says hand up, lead from the front. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's culture. Like, we know there's a hard out here at 1015,

and he wants to come take three minutes of our time. That's Dave, though. I'll tell you what, Dave fucks with the boys. He does fuck with the boys. Like, guys, he's the dad. He's the dad that's never going to say, I love you. But, like, the more he makes fun of you, like, he cares. Yeah.

He cares. And that's, that's important. I feel like during this. What did you ask? Does he love you, you think? Oh, yeah. Love us? Yes.

I mean, I think we're probably, yeah, top five favorite people around me. I don't think he'll ever say it. And I think he'll always, like, you know, make those faces like, oh. He'll just go, yeah. I mean, I like you guys. I like, I mean, you guys are doing great job. He has worked for me. And he'll just say something that, like, wouldn't make.

make him seem like he's the boss. And then we just... It takes that one pat on the back and you're like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. But he doesn't... I think he hangs... There's not a whole lot of pads.

I think he hangs with Sylvana and they'll like, look at some of our content stuff and they kind of chuckled together. Yeah, they'll be laying in bed and just kind of like... But he'll never say that. You see this? Yeah, he'll never say that. Like, those guys are stupid. And he'll just kind of keep scrolling.

I'm Kim. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he's 20. I'm 32. He's a future... Or he already is superstar. But he's a future just like world beater, uh, talent.

and I think part of it is that I'm just jealous that it took me so long to figure it out and he's, you know, can't even legally drink and he's just whooping up on all of us. That's probably part of it. That's probably part of it. A lot of it is this caddy and I, you know, I have to see him all the time.

So I want to, I don't know, it's like, it's like a motivating thing. So I definitely, you know, check in how he's doing in tournaments. I hope that I win more tournaments than he does until I retire much earlier than he will. but it's also an embarrassing one. Like I said, you want a rival that's like your age

and this kid is like, he's truly a child. So what I was doing at 20 versus what he was doing at 20 is just so drastically different. It's outrageous. But he's definitely on my list right now. And he's also taking me to dinner next week. He's taking me a Korean barbecue next week in L.A. So we're also really good friends, I think.

And he's close. And he's closer. Yeah. So I'm staying in it. Yeah. But he might food poisoning. I'm not really sure. I don't know where his rivalry in this stands.

but I know he feels similarly. Is he here this week? He's here this week, yeah. I think that's, when is it? It starts Thursday, right? That's the first day that everything is going down. How do you get paired up with him a lot or now? I've been paired up with him.

Maybe this is the other part. I got paired up with him in Vegas this year, and then he won the golf tournament and didn't make a bogey for all 72 holes, which is just like not a real thing. Yeah. So he did that. Man, he sounds like, stop.

So he did that. I'm sending my sights high. Yeah, yeah. Is, you brought up Caddies a couple times, like, I don't know golf. I probably swung a club 10 times in my entire life. I'm awful. But what is, like, how important is a caddy to the process of the weekend for you?

Like, sizing things up for you and stuff like that. For me is. What do they do in general? It's like, give me the basic one-on-one on what a caddy does. Their bones is carry the clubs, uh, clean the clubs and get like numbers and kind of do like strategy type stuff. Mine is different. I, I, I've always valued caddies.

Some guys, you know, everyone wants something different. Some people want like, some people want like a psychologist kind of out there. a friend out there where they want somebody who's just really good at like, you know, getting waters, you know, just like a, almost like an assistant. Mine, I've been lucky. Mine is one of my best friends. I've known him since I was six. He was a great golfer.

It still is a good golfer, but he played pro golfer a little bit back in the day. And so I kind of get, I'm lucky. I get a really, like, really good caddies. He's great at all the strategy, all the picking what club to hit. He's great at all that. He's also like someone I enjoy walking around with. because we're together more than I'm with, you know, my wife, really. Over the last, like, six years, we spent so much time together.

So I need to like, like that person. Because if I start to get resentful of being around somebody that much, it would be hard to do my job. But so I, I kind of get, like, the full package with mine. So, like I said, everyone's different. Like, I had a caddy one time, fill in for Joe. He was gone for a week. and every time he'd have the top almost off, so I didn't have to open the top.

I'm like, nice though. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm so good at that. Like, I can do that. You know, I don't need help with that. I need help. Like, is it seven or eight iron? Yeah. So it's just like everybody, but clearly at some point,

somebody told him like that was a thing, which is also sad and crazy to me. But I don't know. Some people, everyone, everyone's different, I guess. But I like having a friend out there that like enjoy the winds together. and then the losses we can like discuss and and I have a lot of faith and trust in what he'll suggest that we should do better. Have you ever blew a gasket on him?

It's actually funny. He's yelled at me more than I've yelled at him. It's kind of my running, running joke about how like last year, last year, maybe it was two years ago at Pebble Beach Sunday. I got off to a great start. And on the fifth hole, I hit in a bunker and I had a fuck lie and made double bogey. And then the next hole I hit in the bunker and got a fuck lie. and I hit a really good shot and it got a terrible bounce.

I had like 20 feet and I kind of bitched and moaned about it. And this is why I like Joe because I always tell him. I say, if I'm being a bitch, you tell me I'm being a bitch and I'll stop. Like he's older than me. Like I was like, you know, you're kind of big brother here. I'll listen to you. Yeah. And but I kind of like bitched and moaned to him about like, I was like, what a fucking bounce.

You know, like it's so fucking bad. And he snapped on me. And he goes, you know, I don't even remember. He said, he yelled at me. I looked at him like, Jesus Christ. Like in front of other people. I'm like, good God. What do he said?

hey, you're starting to be a bitch? Yeah, basically, he was like, he's like, quick complaining. He had a great fucking shot. It's like, not that big a deal, whatever. So I'm like, okay. And I walked over and I, fortunately, I made the putt, which was like maybe part of him just scaring the life out of me. And he comes over to me, like, this is why I'm our relationship.

I love it so much. He comes over and he goes, dude, I'm so sorry, but I want to rake that bunker on five. My back went out. And I'm like, I'm kind of on tilt right now. I'm like, okay, man. He goes, I'm really sorry about that. But I've only really got injured.

Yeah. Yeah. I've only really gotten mad at him, like, a couple times. So, like, he, I don't think I've ever yelled at him. But, yeah, it's fun when he is wrong. And there's been a couple times where, like, he catches. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

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It's impossible. I mean, he's guessing what, you know, educated guess on what we should be doing. So when he's wrong, it's not like I'm like, whatever. But every once in a while, like one time, you know, I'm telling him it's six, darn it's five. He says five and I'm saying six and it's five and it goes over the green. It's fucked. And like that's when I can at least at least look at him and be like, you know, I was right. And sometimes that's all I need. But I don't yell at him a little smile like. You hear some guys blow up and they are some funny fucking stories. But, uh, man, I just don't have that in me.

Wow. Where are you at in the argument of golf being a sport or not? man, I'm like very middle. Like, I don't, it's active. Yeah. It does warm my heart when like my friends who are real athletes, like the no argument athlete, when they go play golf and then they tell me next day, like their back hurts,

their shoulders are hurting. I'm like, see, this shit's fucking day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's probably not. I think if we had to carry our own clubs, I would consider it a sport. but it's just it's just it yeah we're tiptoeing the line we're definitely like people bat dog cheerleading and say that's not a sport and they did it are way more athletic than we are so like if they're not

even if they're not even getting approved then like we shouldn't be approved fully yet but um we're gaining on it but i wouldn't like you guys are like there's a humongous difference between like football and baseball and basketball and then like golf. Like this is noticeable. Just the eye test would tell you that like we're not doing a whole lot. But it is active. It's harder than you think. But yeah, it's definitely not, not rigorous enough I would to consider like a full-blown sport.

But we're in the sport family. I think of a distant cousin. You're saying like we're distant cousin. The way you handled that. Yeah. Arageous question was extremely graceful. Like could have easily. I know, I know, the boys, the boys you get it.

The baller fan are back there probably pissed right now. Yeah. I get it, man. You heard a bunch of scoffs in the back when you said that. Yeah, because they all were thinking that it's not. When did you decide like, they're pro golf? When were you like, this is for me? What I'm going to be fantastic at.

You know, real sports. So I played, you know, like football, basketball, and golf. Those were like my three, like, loves growing up. A slot receiver? What's that? Are you a slot receiver? Dude, I was going to be the Great White Hope. I was a nasty corner.

Oh, there's a boy from Iowa out there trying to live a dream. Right now, you see that guy out there? He is. I saw that. Unicorn, we have to protect him. So, but yeah, so I was like, damn, I was like 11. So it's not like I thought of that at all. But I think, who was a Seahorn back in the day?

Yeah. He was the last year. So I mimic my game after him. But, yeah, I was all right. I'm fast. Like, that's kind of my thing. Never was a big guy, but I can fly around a little bit. and I like saying that

because you can't prove that I can't. It looks like you can run around a little bit though. Yeah, but you're never going to see it. You should when you're like at a par five or something like that. Get a good sprint to your ball. Just to kind of show everybody what's what. That would be funny. Bro, if he like hit it and he looks a little bit,

and just like yacks down there, dude. That would be awesome. That would be incredible. I put that in the back pocket. I was like 11 and my dad kind of astutely said, hey man if you want to be a professional athlete like you need to pick one like this is your time like you need to treat it like a job and and he goes I think you should only be doing one and I sat there and looked in the mirror and I'm like well I'm five foot two can't really jump I think I'm fast but I

met a lot of guys faster and I was like I think golf's the way to do it so it wasn't like I thought that I was baby better at golf but I felt like it might fit me better I didn't get hit nobody had to hit me. And yeah, so then it was like from 11 on, I quit everything else and started going the golf course six days a week. My parents would drop me off and bang balls. I didn't know I was going to make it, make it for a while. But I've always said, man, for anybody who's ever made it and probably anything, but especially sports, you need like the perfect amount of delusion. Because if when you tell a kid, like, I remember I had teachers be like, what do you want to do in your grow up? I'm like, I'm going to be on the PJ tour. And they're like, okay, but if that

doesn't work out. What are you going to do? And I'm like, why the fuck would that not work out? Yeah. Like, I work at this as hard as you work at your job. Like, it's going to work. But like, looking back on it now is like a 32 year old dude. It's like the fact that a kid, I was just like, yeah, of course I'm going to make it here is like you have to be a bit crazy. But like you have to have to have enough of that realism and awareness to know that like it's going to be really hard. But and you have to change things. It's not like, I'm just going to wake up and just make it. But also you have to have enough delusion to A.C. anytime anybody ever said, hell, man, you know, that's, that's crazy. Like, you might need a backup

plan. And I could look at you and be like, no, like, that's, that's not how you make it. You don't make it with a backup plan. So it's kind of fun. But I was thankful my dad did that when I was young, because you do, in my opinion, you know, unless you're one of those freak, you know, Bo Jackson type people. Like, you need to focus on one thing. Because there's so many people that are working at it and that are great at it that, like, you can't be wasting time. I couldn't be wasting time trying to, you know, figure out if I was going to blow up the guy in the flat or not. Like, that's just, I'm going to waste of my time. So you guys seem like you're more the family style that is pick, do one sport when you're

growing up. I want, I want, because I know you probably are aware of those arguments. Yeah. Like golf, it could be like, golf, you might have to put in that type of time. Golf is one of those sports. I agree. I agree. You're over 13 in hockey. You like, you can't do anything else. Like, you got to go do X, Yon. I want my kid if he decides to play sports. I want him to play all of them. because I do think it makes you a well-rounded human.

Like, I think that there are golfers who have grown up and only played golf, and I think that they... Yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing. Personality-wise, it's great for their game. But, like, I don't think that's... But it does feel like that. It's like they take themselves very seriously. And it's like, our biggest, most popular golf tournament

is just a party. That's in Scottsdale. So it's like, we're not... We're low on the totem pole. We're growing. Tiger put us everybody on the map. change the, change the landscape of golf forever for all the professionals. But at the end of the day, I do think that it's important to play a lot of sports just to get, I also think it helps

with your hand to eye. I think all those things are important to growth. But yeah, I mean, golf is different. It is, it will always be a slower, older, older person's sport just because it's not taxing on the body. It's the thing that all, you know, so many athletes and so many super athletes decide to like play after because it's you know i was on a phone call with larry fitch darrell yesterday and he is obsessed with golf you never met somebody more obsessed with golf and this dude is a no no doubt or hall of famer probably i mean he should be in the conversation for best of all time and this dude just wants like he's asking me questions about how do i get better at golf because that's the thing is it doesn't beat him up anymore it's a passion it is hard um but i think

that his personality and his outlook towards the game is benefited from the fact that he played other things growing up. And I think that's why people love Larry in golf now because he doesn't take himself seriously because he's humbled by the game of golf, but we all also respect him because he's a legitimate freak of nature. When you keep saying that golf is always going to be an older man sport, how do you, like, in what ways can we make the younger generation appreciate golf more? So I'll give you, like, for example, like when I'm in high school, me and all my buddies never thought about golf at all. soon as everyone graduated college, all of a sudden, all my boys are picking up clubs and doing whatever. And like, this is great for business.

This is great for that. Like, how do you start leaking into the high school, like that, you know, the younger age is that they start picking up the clubs more? So it needs to be more accessible. So a golf course I grew up on is par 61. So most golf course, par 72, the public golf course had a par three course, nine holes. The longest hole was 150 yards. And it was owned by a company called American Golf. And they had a deal, at least in all the ones that they owned around.

where I grew up, that, you know, if you were under like 12, 11 or somewhere like that, you could play the par three course for $1 all day. And then you could play the big one for like $16. And as golf has boomed because of the pandemic, golf blew up across the country. Golf course are getting more expensive. And that's okay. It's a business. But like, let the kids play.

Like get them out there. Get them out playing. Get them out. Deals on hitting balls. Like banging balls is, let's just say it's $8 a bucket, make it three, so that they don't have to go beg their parents for $20 and, you know, like make them feel like it's okay. And also it will, I don't know if this one will ever change, but the adults need to get that are at the golf course need to clean up their act and stop kind of ho-huming, oh, man, I'm playing with a kid today. It's like, my dad would always say that. And he liked it because I was, you know, a good player as a young, young kid.

But he would say, you know, we get paired with another other two dudes that who obviously, who don't know us, strangers. And he would, he'd say he always loved it because they'd roll their eyes to their friend. Like, oh, God, we got to play with this kid today. And my dad would make me play fast. Like, if I, if it took me too long to get off the box, he would just have me play up where his drive was. But, like, by the end of the day, these guys, like, oh, my God, this kid's so good. But it's like, don't, you, you, you, like, you, like, judge me before you.

Like, the point is to get in, like, get people into this game. So that, the pros are doing, I think, a good job. I have, like, I know Patrick Cantley hosts three golf tournaments on the court, on the tournaments. We grew up playing in Southern California in the SCPGA, Southern California Professional Golf Association. So then I'm doing my first one in two weeks. And I think that helps a little bit,

kind of giving kids that look up to, you know, maybe, you know, even if they aren't into golf, but they have to watch it because their dad makes them here and there. And they see, hey, you know, so-and-so is hosting a golf tournament. I want to play in that one day. Maybe that could be an avenue. But I just think accessibility and these adults need to chill. Like if a kid's being loud at the golf course,

you don't need to reprimand them. like goes to just say, hey, you know, we're a little quieter here. It's a respect thing. But like, don't make it where I have to walk on eggshells because I felt like that as a kid a lot. And fortunately, my dad didn't make me double down and feel that. He's like, hey, you know, kind of like, screw them, do your thing, but be respectful. But he was said in a nicer way. But there's just like this, it can be stuffy. And that just turns kids off. Kids attention spans are short. That's by football so like is like America's sport and it's so fun to watch because it's like quick, quick hitting highlights.

Like highlights and golf like you, they're slow and they're not as riveting. But if you ever played the game, you'd like, fuck, that's amazing, you know. But it's just like it's not like right off the top of your head that it would be like so clearly fun. So I hope that I hope that as things go on like kids will start to feel more welcome to come out to the course because I tell I tell all the people who are just, even my friends as you reference there you get out of college and like man i want to play golf i don't embarrass myself i'm like i'm like who who are you worried is going to embarrass you and

they'll like oh you know there's this guy that was playing the other day i said well just picture this if i come out i'll beat the shit out of that guy at golf like he'd be embarrassed to play with me and i don't give a shit so like you go play just go have fun do your thing don't like that's the problem there's like this weird there's a weird thing in golf that i'm hoping slowly gets uh torn down a bit but what is that weird thing you're kind of implying is it that get uppity vibe i think it is but I just think like, okay, so if I went and played football with you guys, obviously, I would look like an actual like a giraffe, like a baby giraffe out there.

Like I wouldn't know what to do. A baby catch a few. I'd maybe trip a few times. I'd look like an idiot. But I feel like the nature of that sport, like the intuition isn't just to immediately like make fun of that person. It's like, you know, it's just like, oh, it's fun. It's a backyard game, you know. But golf doesn't feel like a backyard game, at least in how it was made.

It was a gentleman's sports, a gentleman's game. But it's like, it should be a kid's game. Shit, we're whacking a fucking golf ball through the air and everyone sucks at it. Like, I suck at it sometimes. Like, it's so hard. So I just think that there is an uppiness to it that, like, as you get better and you, you have to pay to play. So I guess maybe part of it is kind of like going back to the public transportation in the sky thing. Oh, I'm paying $300 for a flight.

I don't want this baby crying behind me. It's like, well, tough shit. Like, there's a kid out here going to learn. And he just wants to get better at the same game you want to get better at. Like, let him have a chance, let her have a chance and, like, just see what happens and make it fun and make it enjoyable. There's something weird about maybe it's just the price point of it that I think people feel entitled to, like, this is my day and I want it to go exactly how I think it should go. And it just drives me nuts. I'm glad I grew up at the golf course I grew up at because it was not like that nearly as much.

It was a men's club. All the boys had beers. I would sit there and wait for my dad to fit. finish, I'd hit balls, get a soda, and we would go home. And it was very like everyone can play. No one's getting strokes. Go prove yourself. And that's how you grow up and learn. But golf in general, just doesn't seem like it's gotten over that hump fully yet. But I think it will. I think Tiger made an enormous impact on that because he made kids feel cool to play golf, at least for me. When someone's like, oh, you play golf, that's dorky. I'm like, go watch this fucking guy play golf because it is not dorky.

It is. It's exciting and it's cool. I think what Netflix is doing too with that. Yeah. Like the Formula One Yeah Formula one. But them doing it with the golf and everything else, I think that's going.

Also for you, like giving you your flowers. To me, it's like the way you are your personality. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

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Clearly, if anybody's listening to this, it seems like you've been all in on this thing for a while. But I, like, admire from afar your ability to play good or play bad. and talk about it in a way that's like relatable to people. I feel like people take a big liking to you. Thank you. Yeah, I guess I'd put it as I don't, I take what I do very serious.

I don't take myself very serious. And I hope that kids and fans of golf grasp that like concept because like I want to be everybody every time I play. But I also know that if I don't, it's not everyone's problem that I didn't. Yeah, man. And like I said,

I want golf to. to flourish. And I love this game. And it is, it has a lot of benefits to it for, you know, business and honestly just joy. And so it's like at some point, uh, it's, it's fun. And it, we're playing golf in a field, man. It's, it's awesome. But it, there's just little, little walls. We got to knock down Netflix. That's a great point. They'll do a great job of showcasing at least for kids to be able to see on a, in a, in a, in a, a, in a, a real TV show like, oh, shit, maybe I want to try that. And like, then get out and do it. Because it is weird, man.

Like, every, like you said, every single one of my friends right after college, like, fuck, man. Like, I want to learn how to play golf. What should I do? And I'm like, God, dang, I wish you would have said this when we were 15 because I would had a lot more friends. A lot more friends. I know it's 1020 right now.

We know you got to go. But the last thing we'll ask is, um, you seem like your mindset is just like really just well done. Like you seem like you've really put things into perspective, understanding that just because I lost doesn't mean it's everybody else's issue. Enjoying whether you win or lose. the way you projected to everybody else. Like, how is that, like, is your mindset always been that way? Or did you have to navigate through the ups and downs of golf to really find the calm

that you're dealing with right now? Yeah, I mean, even, like, it goes ebbs and flows. Some days, I can act like an asshole. I try to keep it to myself. But, like, if you're, you know, you know, Joe, my wife, Lacey, like, they would know when I'm being kind of a dick about it. But I guess a lesson I learned, like, I've always thought of myself as a respectful person. And I remember I had a really bad attitude for a while, like through college. And I can't remember if exactly what happened, but it was one day where I think someone like almost pointed out to me. Like when if there's two other people at least playing with this every day.

And if I'm being an asshole out there, that person has to deal with me and I'm ruining their day. And I'm like, oh, that's not what I mean to do. Like I'm just trying to ruin my own day. You're just dealing with your own shit. Yeah. So like I guess that's kind of when I also have a bad attitude in my own head now, but I try my best. Like some people will be like, oh, man, you're just so calm and your attitude. good. It's like some days it's not very good. I just don't want people to see that anymore because it's

embarrassing and it's and it's rude. Like it's rude to the other guys out there that I play against who are also trying to do the same shit I am if they got to deal with some little sour puss, you know, stomping their feet and stuff. But no, it's everything's that I've been, and flow. But I think as I've gotten older, I've just realized that you're going to have good weeks, you're going to have bad weeks. And at the end of the day, you know, the journey is, is, that's that's the fun part the wins come the winds go things things uh think you have bad weeks you know where it feels like the end of the world but like the fun part is just getting pacing that forever and i think as i've gotten older and appreciated that i've appreciated some of

the bad days more because it's like all right this is the day i'm going to learn when you win you learn a little bit but you when you fail you learn quite a bit and before i would kind of back myself away from that and be like god sucks doing this but knowing that you're not going to win every golf tournament. It's kind of, you can appreciate the weeks where you have to grind and, and dig it out a little bit and turn, you know, nothing into something. So, but it's, it's all been a learning curve. I mean, if you ask my friends when I was 16 to 20, they probably thought I was the

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