Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Maxx Crosby On His Longterm NFL Goals + What Other Coaches Say About Him

Episode Date: March 7, 2026

Recorded: January 20th 2023 | In this Best of the Bus throwback, the Boys went to Las Vegas where newest Baltimore Ravens pass rusher Maxx Crosby welcomed them into his home to hang out and talk ball. From kicking it with his dogs to diving into his long-term goals, Maxx opens up about the mindset and work ethic that drives him to keep improving every season. He also shares what it was like being teammates with Antonio Brown and Davante Adams, giving the Boys a behind-the-scenes look at the personalities inside the locker room. The conversation shifts to the Derek Carr situation in Las Vegas and how Maxx processed everything as it unfolded. Maxx then delivers a classic monologue about his All-Pro mentality and the standard he holds himself to—one of those speeches that’ll make you want to run through a brick wall. With Maxx recently being traded to the Ravens, it felt like the perfect time to revisit this conversation from his days with the Las Vegas Raiders and hear the mindset that made him one of the most respected defensive players in the league. Biggest hugs, tiniest kisses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to when Max Crosby came on the bus. The boys were in Vegas before the 2023 season with the one and only Max Crosby, Mad Max, just, elite specimen specimen of a pass rusher in the NFL Max opened up about his goals

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enjoy this episode. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bus and with the Boys. Obviously, we are not on the bus right now. We are in a pristine location. Unknown. Unknown. In Las Vegas, Nevada,

at the home of the legendary Max Crosby. And if you're at home right now, go ahead and give him a round of applause. We'll do it too. Appreciate you guys. Buddy, this is an outstanding place. I appreciate it. Yeah.

When did you move into this residence? We moved in May. I lived about three minutes away before. And me and Rachel were looking at houses for a long time. And it was a very stressful, very stressful situation. You know, we're going back and forth arguing. I'm done, you know, I was at the point where I'm like, I'm done looking at houses.

Like, until I get my contract, like, I'm done. And then all of a sudden, my boys come in town. We're going to the UFC event that weekend. And Rachel's like, there's this one house. We got to see, you know, whatever. I'm like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done looking at houses.

She pulls me in the car. We're going. We drive around the corner. And that was it. we literally put an offer on this house that same day. Really? And this is this house. There is like a weird tradition.

Was that? I said he knew that bag was coming. He knew the bag was coming. But when the bag is not secured yet, you do start playing the game of like, man, I wonder what I could get. And you start,

you get on the Zillow app. And you're looking at the things. All right, this is what I can get right now. But if I get this contract, I could go and get that and that. 100%. It's a crazy game you play in your head.

Yes. It's the best. Was that like a stressful time for you? Like before, track stuff was like um i wouldn't say stressful like it was honestly like a good stress like you know the situation like it's hard you don't know like you want to get to your number like you're really hell bent okay on this boom i'm not going below this um but then in the situation like when it really came down to it i you know you're never going to get exactly what you want

um but at the end of the day like i got enough where i don't have to you know what i mean i don't have to worry about money anymore so like that's the ultimate goal um But it's, you know, for me, it's not really about the money. Like, I've always heard from coaches, everything. Like, they're like, the second contract is what the NFL is all about. And for me, like, I've always thought about, I always try to do above and beyond. Like, my goal is to get a third contract. Like, I want to be the highest paid in a few years.

Like, that's my ultimate goal. So, like, this contract was a big deal for me. Like, I'm set, but at the end of the day, like, I want to reset the market. So, like, that's, like, my goal for sure. One of my goals. How long are you want to be? play 12 to 13th just depending i honestly don't know but like i don't like we just talked about i don't ever want to step on the field and feel like like like not like myself like that's when i'll know

like if i get to that point i'm i'm gonna be done because there are there are players that like young when they're younger in their career they play super hard like we were we were in the car driving here and like the adjective i think we used for you was like did you play relentless you play hard and when sometimes when dudes play that hard that put some wear on the tires and then dudes get older and they have to change up their game a little bit and you're not you don't want to sacrifice that no no you know honestly i've i've always kind of had that mindset like ever since i you know started playing football like i truly believe there's only one way to play and yeah if i if i'm playing and being cautious about jumping in piles and things like that like i probably shouldn't be

playing and um yeah like i just want to look back in my career and be like yeah he put a great body of work I don't want the last thing they remember is like my old ass trying to bend the edge and falling over and stuff. Like that's the last thing I want. You know, for me, I really want to go out on my terms because there's most guys don't. And that's kind of the hard thing about this business. Like, you know, I'm not in control. I don't know, you know, what's going to happen in the future. But like, I know the preparation I put into it.

I do everything I can to try to be at my best and be able to play that way. So, you know, that's kind of my long-term goals. but I'm just literally just trying to stay in the present. That's it. Yeah, it's almost like, how do you know what I mean? Like if you're, if you end on a high note, right? The competitive nature in everybody is you continue to go. It's like I don't feel like you would actually find out

if you've lost a step unless you had a year where it's like, oh, damn, maybe I don't have it like I did the year before or year prior. So it's almost like, how do you know? Because you're almost, you're also addicted to all the success as well. Yeah. You know what I mean? like how do you feel like you would know? I don't know.

I feel like. Like his old ass binning around the edge. I feel like that wouldn't happen unless it's like week 15 of maybe your last season. And you're like, fuck, maybe I am slowing down. Yeah. No, that's true. You never, like I feel like you're never going to know, like exactly. But it's just like, like, JJ.

Like I feel like it's a mental thing too. Like you know when you're done. Like there's guys like, I feel like there's certain like even I know Sean McVey. Like I don't know all the story. but like I know how he works and people talk about his work ethic like he's like when he's in it like 24 seven he doesn't stop and like people are saying he might take a break and there's rumors of that just because of how he is so like if I ever get to that point where I'm like sick of it and like I'm really not enjoying it and I'm you know I'm at that point where it's like I'm you know I've already I've given everything I got to it like it's time to just you know call it a career like I know I feel like I'll know when that day comes like even JJ Y like you've seen he's bawling like he had just just had 12 and a half saxis here and he's just like I'm done but he knows he kind of hit that limit he played what 12 years yeah but look at look at Tom Brady yeah but it's different though like he's he's not taking big hits and running and putting his shoulders and shit so like that's

different like I feel like especially playing up front you know Taylor like it's a lot and it's every single day in practice like a quarterback's not taking any damage during the week they're not doing it during the offseason like we do it all the time all year round so yeah like my goal like There's main goals I want to hit. Like, I want to be the Raiders' all-time sack leader. Like, that's something that's, like, big on my checklist. Like, there's a lot of things that I want to hit before I'm done. So, yeah, you know, I'm just going to stay in the present.

That's all I can do. But when that day comes, I feel like I'll know. What is the all-time sack leading? I think it's 107 and a half, Greg Townsend. So. You're at 100 sacks. Year 10. Eight.

Yeah, let's say, okay. Yeah. Yeah, let's say you're at 100 sacks, year eight. But you're losing a step, but you need seven sacks to get that all-time sack. Do you come back the next year to check your boxes where you feel like you're close? You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's different. Like, if I'm in year eight and I feel like I'm losing a step,

then maybe I'm not doing something right. You know what I mean? Like, if that's just- Well, you're so fucking relentless all the time. Like, maybe, you know. No, that's, I'm still young, bro. Like, I'm 25 and I'm going into my fifth year. You know what I mean?

Like, if I'm not, if, like, just looking at it from, like, there's, you look at the cobies the guys like that like they work relentlessly they were able to play 20 years I know it's a different sport but like even the NFL guys like I know injuries are injuries happen like that's a part of it but you know I feel like if you do all the right things you take care

of your body do sleep well recover well do all the shit right you practice right keep ahead of things like you'll be fine and and that's how like I played almost 1,100 snaps this year like I played a ton of snaps but like I feel good like I could go I can

start training tomorrow if I really wanted to, but I have to force myself to slow down. So, like, I'm not fucking stupid. I don't think, like, I'm above other people. And I don't, you know what I mean? That's not how I look at it. But, like, I just, I feel like, if I just keep doing the right things,

but I'll be able to kind of control my destiny in a way. I was more trying to give it a hypothetical of, you're slowing down, but you're also right there on the cusp of a couple of those check, check boxes. Oh, I'm going to get that. If you're going to get them. Yeah. I'm going to play one year.

And if I go and out four sacks, then, okay, it's time. But, like, I'm a, yeah, I'm definitely. Because, yeah, 107, you're right. I guess it would be like, you know, it wouldn't be like year 12 or 13. Yeah. No, for a set. 37, I think 37. Okay.

That's pretty all right. What are other goals on that? What are other goals on that list? There's that. Oh, my bad. But it's your mouth. There's a few. Like, like, I want to be in a Hall of Fame.

That's something I want to be in. I want to be the Raiders' all-time sack leader. You know, there's a lot of things. I can't say everything, but like there's like the main goal is like I want to be definitely do that. But I want to have a career where like when people look back, like the biggest thing for me, like the numbers and shit is cool. Like the jacket, all that shit's cool. But like my main focus is like trying to impact the way the game is played.

Like I feel like in the NFL now there's a there's only a few guys. that you really look at and are like, damn, he's just fucking, he's different. I don't know what it is, like, just the way he plays. Like, I watch, like, Chris Jones and, like, a Mikea Parsons and those guys, like, there's just something different when they're out on the field. Like, it's like a presence.

And, like, that's what I want to lead back. Like, when people look back and talk about me, they're not going to talk about the stats. At the end of the day, they don't talk about Lawrence Taylor, sacks. They talk about when that dude is on the field, he's a fucking animal. And that's, that's the way I look at it.

Like, inspiring kids. Inspiring kids. Like, I want to be that guy that kids want to be like like that's that's what matters most to me so if it's six years and I feel like I'm losing a step like then it is what it is like and I'll know I'm done but like at the end of the day like I feel like the impact I leave on the game like I want to be I want to bring that back like the old school way of playing football flying to the ball not giving a shit like throwing my body like that's that's that's what I feel like's missing nowadays for sure what from a inspiration standpoint

when you were playing at eastern Michigan of all places and Ipsilani which is wild like We need to unpack, like, how you were there. Wild shot at the boys in red. Sorry, I couldn't. He goes way better than Nebraska. Oh, man. Until this year, until this year, when you're playing, like, when you're playing, like, obviously the first person that comes in mind, somebody you've already mentioned, like,

two or three times is JJ Watt. Was that, like, your guy at Eastern? No, not at Eastern. I liked, I was a big JJ fan, like, when I first started playing D.N. Like, my first year playing DM was, I was a senior in high school. So I was new to the position. like, who's the best at what I do? So, like, JJ at that time was, like, Superman.

So I definitely, I like watching JJ. But there's a ton of guys. Like, I love Jared Allen growing up. There's a ton. And it's not just defensive ends. Like, I played growing up, I was a middle linebacker the whole time until my senior year. So, like, you know, I could go on and on about different players. But, yeah, I watch everybody.

And I just, I want to be, like, unique. Like, somebody not just another guy, another hardworking. Like, I'm going to be somebody that, like, look back, it's like, damn, like in that time, like, this dude was just different than most dudes. Yeah, because JJ was one of those dudes who, like, fought through the fringe. Yeah. Like, when I first got to Tennessee, I was like, that was when JJ was, was JJ. It was terrifying. Yeah. And then, you know, he went through, like, a three, four-year spell where he, like, played six games, played nine games, like, didn't really play a whole lot.

And he could have easily been where, uh, we've been, what we've been talking about was like, is he losing a step? Yeah. And he goes back to the Cardinals. And like, he said, he had 12 sacks this year. Yeah. Loki was balling this year. It's a competitive. I feel like it's like a, that competitive fire. Also the fight of being like, this can't be the end for me. Like I need to make this comeback real. 100%.

But you're in it though. Like you're in your own. Like some people could objectively say like maybe you are losing a step, but I guess only you know. But then that's obsession of being so Uber competitive. Maybe you don't necessarily know it, but you keep going back. For sure. And that's the thing too, guys.

Like the game, you evolve like over time. Like especially like even if some guys are a little bit older, That's the thing too. Like my game is from my rookie year to now, it's like pull it. You know what I mean? I've gone, it's not even like the same person when I watch my film. So even I feel like it's when you get older too. Like you see a guy like, this I always refer to the NBA.

But like you see James Hardin. Like he used to be dropping 40 a game every night. And now he's like a pass first. He's leading the league and assist because he's lost a step. But he's also like the best passer in the league now and he's just evolved as a player. So yeah, I feel like that's the thing. Like I have this vision of what I want. my handing to look like and how it's going to be

but like I truly don't know like I really don't know I just I just try to stay stay in the day bro and and if I can maximize every day and do what I do like it's just going to work out the way it's supposed to you know it's not that's not under my control no you're right I was gonna switch a subject but if you were staying on that no I was just I was playing

to like everyone everyone really has this like everyone's writing their own little story in their head and they're narrating their own story like if I do this like it's gonna look like this and like you're really watching yourself, daydream of how it's all going to end. Everyone plays it out. And you're right, like a lot of dudes can't go out in their own terms. Like a lot of people like, like for me,

two ACLs in three years, it's like I was on top of the world before that. And I thought, oh, man, I'm getting this jacket. Like, we're going to keep going. And things just switch up on you. You have to learn to pivot and be happy with what you've done. Yeah, 100%. What's it like being Brian Baldinger is one of his favorite

players? I feel like my man is always shouting you out. Because of what you talk about the impact on the game, I feel like he does a job of spotlighting that and showing that, the Commodore, whether or not you're getting the stat of a sack the way you affect the game. What's it like? Having a legend like that talk about you multiple times throughout the year. Yeah, it's awesome. You know, ever since my rookie year, for some reason, like my first game that I really got to play in was the Indianapolis game. I think it was week four of my rookie year. And he put a video out and he made up the condor nickname

and all this stuff. And I was, like, throwing off. I'm like, damn, I got to realize. He's some juicy. He narrates that stuff. Good. You guys have some fire. It's incredible.

The whole thing is classic. So it's like, when he's first started doing that, like, I reached out back to him and was like, man, I was like, I appreciate it. It means the world. And then, you know, I just, as my career is gone, he's always doing videos. And now, like, we'll talk, like, before, you know, after a game, I'll be like, go watch what I did on this third down. Boom.

And he'll check it out. it'd be like, and we'll just have conversations back and forth. He loves. He loves football. He loves football, bro. He loves football, bro. And that's the type of people I like to associate myself with. So, you know, like Marinelli and those guys, like, I talk to Marinelli to this day every day.

You just visit him, did you? I was just saw him in Texas. I was just on the phone to them, like, two hours ago. Like, he's one of those guys that, like, I need in my life to keep, like, everybody has those people, especially, like, in your sport that you, like, just have a different level of respect for. And like Baldy and like Marinelli, those guys, like I constantly, even when I'm not training, like right now, like I have a couple weeks to kind of get off my feet. Like just I need it. Like, it's my part of like my addiction.

Like I love playing football. So having those guys just talk ball and just feed me knowledge is really cool. How do you get the Commodore nickname? The Condor. Condor, excuse me. Did I say Commodore? Did you say Commodore? Did you say Commodore?

I think I said Commodore. What is the Commodore? I'm not like a. Oh, that's right. Vanderbilt, anchor down, dude. I mean, yeah, similar schools. Yeah, how'd you get that nickname? It was just from Baldinger.

I think it was... That wingspan? Yeah, I guess the wingspan. You do have like a solid caveman, like, knuckles touching knees, my dear. And it's like, that's a big compliment. That little fucking, you got them, them things are flying too when you're playing.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of different weird names from mine. You don't need to hear you watch your film. You see the arm's stuff. You're touching the right guard when you're playing the lift tackle. See, that's the funny thing, bro. Like, and this is weird. And y'all, y'all can believe me or not. But when I went to the combine, I'm like, you know, everyone's always told me that.

Like, bro, you got long arm. Like, you're long athlete. I went to the combine. I was like almost the bottom when it came to wingspan. No. They were like, I swear to God, they had articles. Ah, the Eastern Michigan. Because, like, I did good at the combines.

So people started talking about me more. But they're like, yeah, I don't know. His wingspan's short and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, wait, what was your arm length? It was like 610. wingspan. I don't know my arm length. It was like... How tall are you? 6.5. Oh, I think it's a dub, right?

If your wingspan is longer than your boy, I ain't... No, that's what you... Yeah, you got them stubby. You got the T-R-R-R-A. He's short and the whale does. He goes and walks. Wrestler belt. He tried to put his hands off. He got to pull his shoulders away down and get the hands away. I'm trying to hit that ball the other day in the shop and I can't, I can't get it started.

I can't get the fucking... I'm like, I got to kind of bounce the ball a little bit. You do got them little stuff, but they make your arms like bigger though that way. Like if you have real long arms, your arms don't look as big. Yeah, but I don't know. It's weird, bro.

People in the football world would always stare at me down with it. You must have a small torso. Right? There's got to be something wrong. You probably got a small torso. Yeah. I think I got wide shoulders that make my arms seem longer.

I don't know. As you got no fucking wingspan out there, dude. You know, that's hilarious. I don't know. It's weird. Okay, Eastern Michigan. How did you end up there?

It's funny you brought this up. So, yesterday, my D-line coach from Eastern called me. And he, you know, we're just chopping it up, talking, talking ball, whatever. And somehow he brings it up. He's like, yeah, you know, it's hilarious. You know, we've been interviewing a new D-Line guy because he's going to move to linebackers there at Eastern

and they're getting a new D-Line coach. And he was like, Coach Creighton, my head coach, he started this thing in his interview process. He puts up five high school players film and shows the D-Line coaches and has them rank the D-Lylinement. he puts like whatever one of the guys they're trying to recruit he puts my film in there from my high school like when i was in high school and he puts like you know four other random guys he said so my d line coach my old d line coach told me yesterday he said every single coach ranks me at like fourth or fifth from high school day and i'm dying laughing

and they don't know that it's you they don't know and then they're like yeah you know that's max crosbie right and they're like they all get awkward yeah that's got to be a talk to you it's awkward but you just got to sit there in that meeting and go, I'm not getting this job. Yeah, it's over. But that's, that's kind of like, bro, I was a late bloomer. Like, I was a, I was a linebacker all the way up to my senior year. Then we got these new coaches and I had a big gross per, but like,

my body, I wasn't caught up. Like, bro, my knees were hurt and I was slow twitch as fuck. Like, if you watched my high school film, he'd be like, yeah, I'm not surprised he went to Eastern. Like, I was surprised I got a D1 offer. They were the only D1 to offer me, bro. They're my only offer in general. So, like, I got that offer.

I jumped on it, committed. and boom and then yeah Were you a basketball guy? Yeah I played basketball You were a B-soe Yeah I could hoop No easy buckets No, you play in the paint

I was I was like a swing You know like a stretch four kind of guy I could shoot I could shoot the ball Come on a sword of God I'd rather shoot than be on the block Like I'm not a back to the basket guy Come on I'm catch the ball at the top

Move get to the lane The hammer that way Absolutely not You can't jump I can rebound but like I'm not back to the basket Old school George Miken type of shit. Can you dribble?

Well, I'm not going to hype myself up. The Serbian, my mom Serbian, it's translated to the court. Can you do the jibble between your legs? Can you dunk? I could winmow. Can you do the thing? We go right there and I'll winnow in there. Can you do the pool?

I'm talking about the other hoop. We have a court back there. Is it even regulation? That's probably eight feet. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be eight feet. Can you do the thing where you bounce the ball and you pick your shirt up and the ball goes in and you slap it and it goes around? And one mixtape?

Yeah. I don't think I can do that. You think you're the best basketball player on the Raiders? Yeah. I think guys would tell you that, too. Really? I'm not going to hype myself up, but we've all played together. I see you over there getting a little...

You keep, like, twitching a little bit. I can get wiggily. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Like you're a little triggered that we're kind of questioning your basketball. Yeah, it hurts. But it's normal for, you know, being a white guy. They will always question you at first, but then you go on the court and you fucking hammered on someone's tired.

That's why you had to get yatted everywhere. It changed, yeah, it changes. Yeah, dude. You are, you are tatted. Is, what's it like playing defense being white? Is that tough? I remember when Taylor called you, oh, he's just another normal white guy out there on the field.

Actually, Will told me that story. I forgot that even happened. Explain that statement, my feelings. What happened that day? Because I don't remember when I'm saying that to you. You remember. No, I really don't. You told me.

My whole focus in that game was you. When we were playing the radio? You literally told me. We were pulling up. You were like, hey, it was Max the guy where I said, like, it was just another white guy at the block here. Yeah, yeah, because you've told me that story, but I don't remember in the moment,

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How much money? I think I oh wait no no I was telling you I'll give you $200 per sack you got on Taylor it's something like that yeah they run a lot of play hey I got the Titans back this year though so I was proud and I let Brable know about it did you really yeah what did you see the braids talking the whole game you just sitting there on the sideline his hands on his knees and after y'all try to run that weird reverse boot shit and I just fucking shed it great we had great play calling yeah it was like on a third down and I just jetted smoke tana hill and I looked to the sideline variable just look

look he was right there. I was like, stop running that shit at me. Stop running that shit. And he's like, okay, shaking his head and shit. That's a variable. He's like, okay. But I fuck with variable, bro. He's one of those coaches.

This is random off topic. But he, like, he texts me all the time. He's cool as shit. He was my coach of the Pro Bowl last year. Max Crawford of the Titans. He's playing the long game. Yeah. You got to respect that.

That third contract. You just got to build relationships. You never know. Bring you to Nashville with the boys. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. You were fantastic in Tito and two-tone blue. You never know

You never know But yeah I'm happy why I'm that You join the boys in that show Wouldn't you? If they didn't want me here anymore Yeah of course But I think

I think it's gonna work out just fine Dude You don't know Rable Like we know Vrabel like We know Vrable Because he'll go in meetings Like on Wednesdays and Thursdays And pull up tape

And just dummy guys Like just verbally assault them And we remember we play in I think Was that your rookie year We played in Oakland That's what we played each other Yeah

He would put you on film and he there wasn't really a bad thing because you play hard yeah and he wasn't a bad thing he's like this loud mouth motherfucker like just like circling him was like this guy he can't fucking touch the quarterback fuck this guy like going off about you the whole time and that's got to be a great feeling because i've had the same thing with like bill o'brien and bill o'brien and bill o'brien be like hey 77 he's a fake tough guy and that that hurt every time remember gunker and the the defensive meeting that week what did he's like the it was like the same kind of stuff similar yeah he's gonna he's gonna be tried to try to

He's going to try to chirpy the whole time. Yeah, it's funny, but that's, like, I have, you know, how the NFL is. You have friends on all different teams. You know a bunch of guys, like, that's the funniest shit when you sit there and talk after the season. They're like, yeah, in our meeting, you know, we circled you and just kind of hearing what other teams have to say about you. Like, that's interesting.

You know, everybody has their own kind of perspective on who you are as a guy. Yeah. There's some teams that think I'm the biggest piece of shit on the planet. Like, really? Of course. Like, he's so loud. I'm loud. And when he makes a play, he's like,

Like, what, motherfucker? Yeah, yeah. I can't help myself. I love it. Like, I'm loud. But that's, like, there's certain teams that you could tell. Like, they're trying to fuck me up. Like, the Niners team, like, the Niners coach and all them, they, like, buttered me up all week.

They're like, man, besides Bosa, he's, you know, he's probably the best guy. Once we got to the game, they tried to send the fucking house at me, bro. They were doing, bro, just different, weird, like, the Niners blocking, like, the schemes and shit they do. I've never experienced anything like it. Like, bro, they were. tackle, tight end, both going down, and the guard would fucking, like, they were coming at angles. You didn't even know where the fuck they were coming from, bro.

It was just different. But, like, that's the thing. Like, that's the coolest thing about the league is, like, being in a position, you know how it is. Like, you're on an island the whole game. You don't even have to worry about it. So, like, that's your responsibilities. For me, it's the opposite.

I know they're going to be sending shit at me. And it's like, it's a different type of challenge every week. And all the offensive coordinators, they all got a different way of approaching it. And it's cool because after the games, they'll talk. about, yeah, we're trying to fuck you up and we're trying to do this. And I'm like, oh, you got me on this, but I fucked you up on that place.

So it's cool, man. That's what the league's all about. Kyle Shanahan's so good. He's a stud, man. I was watching their first playoff game. And the blocking seams are wild. Wild, bro. Like, there was, what was the play?

Oh, they like, the tight end, like, went out on the end and then, like, flashed the end as if he wasn't, like, he was going to block him, then went away. Then Trent was there. That was when McCaffrey had like that long, like 55-yard runs. But the blocking scheme was just so unique.

And it's simple. Because you look at it from an office line, they're like, oh, they're just running this play with like these two little different things. Yeah. But they do such a good job of opening up holes. Yes. They got studs all around. I was going to say, yeah, that helps as well when you got fucking,

like between Debo and McCaffrey, like those, in open field, there's probably, there's, you can't name anybody really better than them. Like you got Tyreeks and shit like that, but like McCaffrey and Debo, Like in open field, they're fucking electric, bro. Dangerous. Yeah, what's it like playing against Trent Williams? He's a stud, bro. He's a stud.

It was fun, though. We had some good battles. Did you get one on them? Yeah, I got a couple of them. I didn't get a sack on them, but I had a nice little cuby hit on the little inside move. Did you let him out? It felt good. No, we were talking.

He's cool as shit. He's talking, like, just having conversation. But I usually, I line up on the left. So, like, I'm going against the right tackle most of the time. So once I went over, like, we knew, like, Trent's going to be on an island. So during the game, we kind of schemed it up. We're okay, Max, you're going to play a little bit more on Trent

because you'll have more one-on-one opportunities because they're going to probably chip with the right tackle and stuff. So I got to rush against him a couple times, but I fared well. I had some good rushes. He has some good. He's just a big motherfucker and he's athletic. So athletic.

It was a good matchup, bro. We got the best for each other a few times. It was cool. You were telling that story on the plane about him and Deshawn Jackson. Just to his athletic ability. Yeah, like there was one off season where, we were in OTAs, and they were basically trying to narrow down who had, like, the fastest start. So, like, every group, I mean, very subjective, but 10 yards.

It's kind of hard to figure out who wins every one. But every position group would go, and then they would put everybody together. But the final two were to Sean Jackson and Trent Williams, because he could just get out. Like, he's extremely athletic. They would talk about him playing bass. The little legs, too. They would talk about playing. He was massive upper body.

Makes no sense. He's so talented. He said he would, when they would play basketball at the Y, that he'd play, like, beyond the arc. He'd win-mill dunk, like, do all this stuff. He's just like, a super athlete, bro. He's a freak, bro. He really is a freak. What about McClintchy?

That right tackle for the Niners. Yeah, he's a big dude. He's a big guy. He's a little more stiff, but I feel like he's an underrated cat. Like, he doesn't get enough respect. Yeah, I didn't know. I thought he was solid. You know, that's a weird thing.

Like, especially now, like, I'm, like, this year, especially, like, I played on the left side the majority of the time. And like early on with me and Chandler were both going, like the chips would go back and forth. So I would have some more one-on-ones and shit. But Chan got hurt against Pittsburgh. And like the last few games, it was like if I wasn't moving around, like I'm getting, they're sliding and they're chipping. So it was hard. It was really fucking difficult to kind of get those true one-on-ones. And especially when you're not up in games, like you don't, you know, it's a lot less, you know, it's a lot more predictable what they're doing. So no, I got Yeah, Mike McGlenshy, he's a big motherfucker.

He was solid. We definitely, yeah, we had a good little back and forth. It was fun, bro. That's the thing with the Niners. There's certain teams, bro, that, like, they just make it really difficult for your D-Line and shit to get off. And that's always the biggest challenge. Like, the New England's.

Like, you know when you're playing New England, they're going to literally do everything they can to try to stop this guy and this guy. And, like, Tennessee's like that, too. I know Brable's come from the Patriot way, too. So, like, I sit there, and hear McDaniels. He's like, okay, Bosa right here. Every single time, we're going to slide, we're going to boom, we're going to.

And I already know going to the week. Like, I'm playing Bill Belichick. He's going to try to fuck me up every play. In Tennessee, I know Vrable's not going to let me just go and try to wreck the game. And that's, I feel like that's years have gone on. Like, that's been, you know, like in my game, like having to evolve, you have to truly, like, you have to truly be on it every single play because they're bringing more than one, more than less.

It's got to be a hell of a compliment, though. Yeah. They're sliding to me and chipping me? It's got to feel good. No, it's awesome, but at the same time, it's very frustrating. Like, that's, like, I feel like the biggest part. Like, in the past, like, last year, like, I was getting in my head because I wasn't getting, like, I was getting a shitload of pressures, but I wasn't getting home.

Like, there was, like, a stretch where I, like, had six games in a row where I didn't have a sack. I felt like I was rushing my best, but I wasn't getting home for some reason. And, like, that's the thing as a rusher that's so difficult. Like, there's no play called for you. You have to go earn every single stat, every play, every sack, every TFL. So, like, that's the challenge. And, like, people from the outside world, if you're not getting sacks as a rusher, like, they think you're, like, not bawling.

You know what I mean? Like, Chandler was bawling, and people were on his head because his sack numbers were low. And, like, you feel, like, Chandler was the same guy last year that I was calling. Like, bro, like, I don't know why I can't get a fucking sack, and he's helping me out. So, like, having Chan here this year, like, I was getting a lot of sacks. And Chan was, you know, going through it a little bit. And being able to be there for him is like, it's like crazy, bro. It goes full circle because, like, Chan's a dude, I looked up to forever.

He's 100 plus sacks. And he's in year 11, and he's, like, going through it. And it's like, it's tough because it just shows, like, as a rusher, like, this shit is really difficult. And you have to appreciate every single stat and everything you get because, like, you could rush great for the whole game, but they could just be getting rid of the ball. They could be, you know what I mean? That's the tough part about it. But that's also, like, the beauty in it when.

there's a reason why sacks are like a big thing because it's not, everything's got to go right. They've got to hold the ball. The coverage has got to be on point. Everything's got to be, you know, on point for you to get home. So. Yeah, Chandler's good at football. Chandler, oh, yeah, so I didn't, yeah, I forgot.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you forgot. Chan's a fucking dog, but I love, as a human being, the dude's one of the coolest dudes over, man. When I was playing him in 2021, he had like four sacks that day. I gave up two of them. and there was like the end of the game.

At that point in the game, I was at such a low point. I was like, I just needed to get the fuck out of here and regroup somehow. And he like rushed me and he went to pull away and I had his chain and I tore it off. And he's like, oh, man, now I'm really mad. Now I'm really coming. I'm like, hey, man, I'm like walking back to the huddle. Like, just relax. Just relax.

You're not enough for the month. That was the lowest football moment. But loki, even before I got hurt, I never played him well. He always played really well against me. Like my second year, I played him. He was at the Patriots. And like the first third down, dude, takes me in the back of the quarterback,

strip sack, fumble, return for a touchdown. That's how the game started first series. Why do you think he's always done so well? Like, what do you feel like makes him, like, great? He's, I don't. I think, like, if I were to play him again, I would, I would vary up my sets more. He's so long and he does a good job.

Like, it looks like he's always on a step cadence. Like, one, two, bull, one. two, three, like turn those shoulders and he's really long too. So short corners are not good against him. Like if you get him to like nine and a half, he's got that capability to reach with the far arm and get that quarter of that ball out.

So it's like he's got enough speeds to like I got to respect this, but also he can turn in power also. And then dudes that, and I can't remember if you play like this or not, but like he doesn't necessarily like play like sound run defense. Like so you like when you're trying to shoot off the ball

we do at Tennessee. He goes inside. Like he can jump around. Like if he has that kind of freedom, like that's an easy way to like second guess yourself. And he's a, he's always been, he's always played me well.

I think of all the players, or play like he's been a guy that's always kind of have my number. Yeah. Even before getting hurt. He's a stud. Yeah, there's always got, there's always those guys in the league.

Every year you're like, okay, I know this about to be. Got to mark this one down. This is about to be. Yeah, like I got to be on my shit. And that's, yeah. Chandler's just pro. He's just unique.

Like how he explained. He's got, he's not fast. But he's got, like, he's not fast. And he'll tell you that. He knows he's not. But he's just, he's so long and he's so like, he's just a different athlete. It's like his brother. Like, they're so long, but they're not fast.

And they probably, they can't jump high, but they're like freak athletes. I don't even know to explain it. Right. They're just really unique. The measurables aren't there, but like the game film is way different than what you see like his combine numbers would be. Exactly. He just, he's just a unique, unique player, bro.

He was born to play football. A dude's a stud, bro. You met his brother? No, I haven't. No. I heard he's going to fight again, right? He's fighting. He's got two brothers.

You know, Arthur Smith, he played in the league too. Yeah, the whole family. Whole family. And the league. Yeah, it's Arthur, right? That's the coach of the Falcons. But, uh, am I, who? The last name is Jones.

Arthur Jones. I don't know why I said Smith. What a fucking game. That black label might have to hit in. Yeah, because he was my teammate in Washington. Arthur Smith. I'm like, what's the father? They were brothers, right?

I'm like, that's not even the same name. I don't think that's the same. What's Arthur do? Is he an athlete as well? He was a, he won a Super Bowl in Baltimore. Oh, shit, I didn't know that. Yeah, he's the oldest, though.

Yeah, he's the oldest. He didn't have as long as a career, but like that whole family is just a breeding grounds of athletics. All brothers in NFL, that's, that's ridiculous. Yeah. No, I think he's a stud, man. And you're right, he's like an anomaly. Like, you look at him.

He's got like the size. Yeah. Like you look like his, he must have a short torso as well, how long his arms are. Long torso. But like he legit, like, does, like, incredibly wacky, very unorthodox, extremely unorthodox rusher. But he just, he does well.

You mentioned earlier about the Patriot way. What's it like playing for Coach McDaniels? What's it been like playing for Coach McDaniels transitioning from Coach Basakia last year? Obviously, you guys are super close. Pasachia is a fucking legend. I've always heard good things about him. But then Coach McDaniels comes in. What's it been like playing for Coach McDaniels?

Honestly, my experience has been great. You know, I feel like, every time you get a new coach in, there's new expectations. And I feel like it definitely takes time to adjust, you know, as a whole. Like if you're halfway in, halfway out, you're not going to last in the way he coaches. Like he has a very specific way that he wants things to be done. He's all about work ethic, all about doing the extra mile. Like that's how he approaches it.

And I, like we talked about off camera, like me and him, we've had a great relationship ever since I got here. The dude, that's how I think when it comes to training. and stuff. I'm always doing extra. I'm always, so it's nothing new to me when it comes to that. But like I said, if you're a guy that's, you know, the normal NFL guy, they're not training all offseason. You know what I mean? It's just, they're doing it.

It's like, it's hard. It's not like a normal NFL team. Like, it's just different. You're talking about the way he runs the operation? Yeah, just the operation. Like, we're really working, bro. Like, even during the season, like, we're in Pat, we're in pads like late in the season at some point.

I've heard of some tough days. Yeah, there's some tough days. But like, that's just, that's what it is. Like, you know what I mean? You can bitch and complain about it or you can show up and fucking improve and get better. And especially in our situation, like, bro, we're 6 and 11. But, like, we lost, we were in every single game, basically, besides New Orleans.

Like, we lost every game by, like, less than a touchdown. So we're right there. And that's probably the hardest part about it. It's like, fuck, we're right there. But we have great building blocks on this team. You know, we have Devante, we have Josh Jacobs. We have a ton of guys. It's just we're not.

there yet, but I feel like we're definitely on our way. Like, if things go our way, you know what I mean? This year, like, we could have easily been a double-de-we could have won 10 games easily, but that's not the reality. Shit didn't, you know, last year, we won every single close game, and that's the toughest thing about it. It's like, you can either

overthink it and, you know, dwell on it and bitch about it, but we went 6 and 11, that's our record. It's fucking, it's not acceptable. But I feel like Josh, as a coach, he's done a really good job for sure. Um, Go ahead.

No, he just seems like, yeah, because this is like, this is not meant to be a shot. This is just like an observation. Like the Raiders, like really underperform for based on the, you guys have an incredible amount of talent on that team. And so how do you, obviously without overthinking it, what are the little things here and there that you guys lose by losing by seven, you can now win by three? Like, what are those little changes? I think, you know, I've talked about this already.

But it's like, for me, it's the standard, like holding guys. to there has to be a standard set. They can't just be, you show up the practice, you do the plays, we're not going over, we're not sitting here, and you know, you should watch the film

and everybody should be graded, you know, are we really running to the ball? Like, little shit like that, I feel, and that's just how I, I have an old school mindset when it comes to that,

like just the little details of running to the ball, loafs, like, the shit we talk about, like, that's what I think's the difference. You know, at the end of the day, like if the standard is not set in the off season and OTAs and shit like that is never you're never going to go on the field and everybody's going to be on the same page it's just not reality and that's where I feel like you know last year or the year before like when you were there like that's we got to that point at the end of the year like everybody was playing for each other and that's the new thing like and it's not like it's McDaniel's fault or anything like everything's new so it does take time and that's you know something as a leader like that's what I feel like I need to you know take another step, you know, as a leader and being a captain, like, that's something I'm really focused on

is building, you know, bringing up the other guys. The guys that really want to be, you know, really want to be great and be a difference maker, not just another guy on the roster and fill out of spot. Like, that's, that's what we need. You know, I feel like, like you said, we have the talent in big spots, but like we do have a lot of things we got to improve on. Like, you know, our D-line wasn't good enough. Our defense in general wasn't good enough as a whole. Like, it wasn't, we did not play to what I, you know, believe the same. standard should be. You know, we played, we rushed a lot better the year before. Um, we covered better. You know, there's, there's little things that we got to improve on. So, um, you know, that's,

and it's a, it's a group effort, you know, it's got to take everybody. And, um, you know, I feel like we're definitely going in that direction. The second half of the season, we played a lot better on defense, but that's just a tough part about it. You can go back and forth and, you know, we lost close games, but like, either way, we lost. Like, and that's, at the end of the day, six and 11, six and 11 is fucking terrible. So, um, yeah, you. You know, I believe in them. I believe that, you know, we're going to keep building up the roster in a lot of key spots and, you know, just keep going in the right direction.

But the main thing for me is a standard, bro. Like, we have to have a standard. And there can't be guys that are halfway in and halfway out because, you know how it is. You have fucking nine guys on the same page and two or halfway out the door is never going to work. Yeah. Do you feel like that's what it was? The standard wasn't held the entire year because a lot of the talks and the headlines and the conversations was, you know, last year we ended up winning like

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The last five games. And then you go in, you think you're going to build off, you have a new regime coming. Of course, it does take time. But then putting the year that you guys, put together, you keep alluding to the standard and everything else and half in, half out.

Do you feel like it was upholding that standard when you do look at it? Yeah, I feel, and like you said, like we talked about, it's not easy. You know, the way of, you know, how Coach McDaniels does it is not easy. We're working hard. Like, bro, we're in training camp. It's fucking 100 degrees out around the field. Like, we're not practicing at 7 in the morning. Like, we're practicing like 10.

Like, that shit, it's hot, bro. Like, people are dying. And then we're running gasters at the end. Like, it's not a joke. That desert heat. Bro, that desert is that real heat. And so that's my point. Like, as a player, like, I pride myself on my routine about doing it every day,

no matter if I'm in a bad mood, if I'm feeling like shit, like showing up and trying to improve regardless of how I feel. And I feel like we didn't have enough of that this year. Just we didn't sustain it for a whole season. Like, you can do it in camp. You can do it in OTAs for the first couple months. But it's like, we need a bunch of kids. guys who are down or are willing to sacrifice the whole year and be on point and um you know that's you know

that's just a part of it where you know i feel like we're going to bring in more guys that are like-minded and you know i just i'm trusting it's not my control i'm just you know i just want to be a leader you know that's that's my main goal lead the guys bring up the younger guys and and show on the way so when you're uh when you're saying like i i have a standard for myself that i say every day whether i feel like should or i feel good like when you feel like you feel like you feel like like shit and you don't want to do it because I feel like a lot of people are going to hear that and be like I do everyone goes through the same thing yeah everyone's got motivation week one and now all of a sudden it's week 10 you're like oh man I really don't want to get up and go do it again like what are the things that you tell yourself when you're working through that process like you wake up in the morning you're sore it's Wednesday you know you're going into pads you know it's week 12 like how do you make sure not only you set that standard for yourself but as a leader like you're saying said that for everybody else yeah um you know the main thing for me is just it's that foundation. Like, if you don't have a solid foundation going into the season,

like, if there's a little cracks in it, that shit, the whole house is going to come down by, you know, halfway through the year. And that's, like, my main thing. I'm a very, like, I have an addictive personality. You know what I mean? I'm an addict at the end of the day. So, like, I use it to my, as a superpower nowadays. Like, there's certain shit.

Like, every single day I'm doing the same thing. Like, Norma Tags stretch every night before I go to bed. Like, cold tub, hot, hot, up every single day. There's certain things I have to do, my meal prep everything. So like even when I'm feeling like shit, I have to, like every morning I know I have to do it.

Like it's an agreement I have with myself once the season ends. And that's something I'm doing right now trying to figure out, okay, what can I do better? Well, how am I going to be better next year? What am I? Like, there's certain things I write down, like, I'm not breaking this. Like, there's no conversation with myself in my head, no matter how fucking bad I feel.

So I feel like it's just, you know, the main thing is just being mentally, obviously you got to be mentally strong but you have to just make agreements with yourself like I'm not fucking breaking this and we'll see what happens if it goes great if I play great whatever like that's amazing that comes with it

but like if I don't play up to the level I expect like I know I did everything trying to do that so I'm not gonna feel like a piece of shit like I statistically the numbers might not be there but knowing yeah if I put everything I have no about it so but obviously that's not the case

yeah like and just trusting it so like that's what I always try to the young guys, it's like, like my thing this pass off season, like, what could I do better as far as going into training? Like the weird little difference I made, like, I was going into 8 a.m. and going to train. My agreement with myself this past off season was I'm going to be in the building by six, no later, every morning, 6 a.m. Monday through Friday. And that's fuck. That's not easy in the off season. No, especially Fridays when you get to go in later. Fuck yeah. And this is, I'm talking February, March, when there's no, I don't have to be there technically. Like, this is all

off season and I did that so once the season got there like that was like a boom I checked that off I did that like that's for me that's where I get my confidence from it's a little shit that like nobody nobody's telling me I got to do this it's little shit that like it's challenging as fuck in the off season when I've I could sit here and sleep and get relaxed until 8 a.m you know what I mean but I'm getting up at 515 and I'm going and going and working out when there's nobody in that bitch that's kind of what I you know that's just one thing but that's how I pride myself is just like setting the standard, boom, this is what I'm doing, regardless of the situation, no matter how I feel I'm getting the fuck out of bed and I'm doing this. And that's where all my confidence comes from. And that's how I try to push the guys around me.

Because I'm not like a big hurrah guy. I'm not going to stand there. This is what we fucking got to do. Like I'll speak what I have to, but like as a leader, like I feel like at the end of the day, the true leaders, like they show that shit every single day. And that comes to practice, the weight room. Like that's why I try to carry myself and pride myself on because If you go and ask any guy in the locker room or ask Dave, you can ask Dave when you get there. You can ask fucking Coach McDaniels. Like, they can say whatever, you know, I might be a dick sometimes. I might, whatever.

Red head. Yeah, red beard, everything. You know what I mean? Super white. But at the end of the day, they can never say I don't work harder than anybody in that building. I think it's show. That's what I pride myself on. That matters.

Having non-negotiables is like a massive, a massive thing that people need to have. It's huge, bro. It's my whole life, bro. It changed it. Two years ago when I got that surgery, bro. I started doing that. It changed my whole fucking life. It definitely shows. And that's like me being there.

You are literally there doing your shit every day. When you talk about the standard, not that you have to get out of character or get out of personality with it, but do you feel like approaching this next year, maybe you do speak up a little bit more to kind of uphold that standard? Because you are a guy who's earned

your stripes in the league now, like everybody knows and stuff. And you're talking about your routine every day now, right? Yeah. So people know about that and understand, you know, how you come correct every day. Do you feel like you need to speak up a little more to fill more of that leadership role to uphold that standard that you were alluding to earlier? Yeah, you know, like I evaluate everything from my leadership to my play to my just my attitude, my presence. Like everything I really sit down and break down. What can I do better here? And I feel like that's with anything.

You know, I could, there's always room for improvement as a leader. but I feel like, you know, my third year, when you were there, we beat the charges the last game. Like, that was my first year being a captain. And I'd never been a captain my whole life. Like, so that was my first time really being voted a captain. So it was like I was learning a lot, you know what I mean, in that being in that leadership role.

But it was different. It was a lot easier when I had a bunch of guys who thought like me, like Quentin Jefferson, Solomon Thomas, Yonik. Like, they're all, like, all of them are fucking crazy. Yonik, legit. Yeah. I really like that. He is.

They're all kind of crazy in their own way, but like that's how I am. So like I really didn't have to push. You know what I mean? We're all like they've seen how I work. There wasn't negotiables. They're with me after the work. You know what I mean? After practice, running with me.

KJ. I had a full squad. Yeah. Like I wasn't having to pull motherfuckers. That's what I feel like this year, it was different. You know, it's a lot different because I had a whole new team basically. More used? Yeah, a lot of younger guys.

A lot of guys coming from other teams practice squads. And boom, they're playing on Sunday with me. So that was the challenge this year. This dude doesn't fucking even, I don't know this guy at all. I just met him two days ago. And now I got to try to lead him. You know what I mean? Like that was the biggest challenge this year.

There was a lot of change, a lot of different guys in and out, ton of injuries. So like it was a big challenge. And I feel like overall it's like the hardest year mentally for me because I feel like I was playing my best ball. And I really had a lot of shit that was going on. We were struggling. We're losing a lot of close games. Like there was a lot of moments where I could have just fucking lost, you know, lost my marbles and act out. you know just fucking lash out but like i really had to sit there and just internalize a lot of shit

and just be grateful for just being in this situation because i could look at it and bitch about it oh i don't have you know i don't have a bunch of pro bowlers playing with me i don't have this uh he has this and point to other teams well this guy's got that you know what i mean like i could do that but it's just it does nothing and it's that's what a fucking coward would do and for me it's like bro, I trust what I'm doing. I know I'm working like no other. And I trust in the end it's all going to work out the way it's supposed to. If I just continue doing the right shit.

And like I look at guys like Aaron Donald. Like, bro, he was in with the Rams. They sucked for years. And he was the best player in the league, but nobody was really talking about him, like how they talk about him now. But over the time, he stuck to the process, he continued to dominate. And then by year, what is it, year 10 last year, he's in the Super Bowl biggest moment.

everyone fucking sees Aaron Donald there's no question he's the best and he goes on the biggest play and fucking wins the Super Bowl like that's the shit I think about like when I get those moments Yeah like it's it's touchdown bro and he wins and gets home ballgame

Like that's the type of shit I think about Like I can lose my shit right now And be like well the fucking Michael Parsons Is rushing with DeMarcus Lawrence And fucking you know he's got other Whatever but that's not You know that's not what it is My story is different than everybody

So I just trust that bro And I continue to just grind I work nonstop and I trust it's all going to work out the way I'm supposed to. When you first get to the NFL, there's a lot of distractions and guys, like you have no money, then all of a sudden you have a bunch of money. Regardless of where you're drafted, like it's more money than you've ever had. And that is difficult anywhere you go. But I can't imagine what it's like being a rookie or a younger guy and coming to Las Vegas to play for the Raiders.

Like how is that, how are you going to work through that process? because that stadium, you can see it. You can see the strip. And it is a cool place to be. It is fun. And if you're a young cat with all this money, like how do you keep guys straight during the season when you're not winning all the games you should be winning?

That's a tough question. You know, everybody's different. And that's the biggest difference when you get to the NFL is not like college. You know, everybody in college, it's like... More structure. Yeah, it's a lot more structure. Everybody's on an even playing ground.

Nobody's richer than this. guy it's like this is what it is you know what i mean now you get to the nfl and this is any city you play with new york giants here in new york city it's there's always going to be that like i bro i was in ipsilani michigan and i still found ways to get fucking lit and have fun and do all that shit so like being in Vegas obviously it's amplified but i feel like just having a solid foundation bro having good people around you being around the right people because there can be there's bro there's a million people that are going to pull at you and hey i got this for you bro hey come moment of this club I got you hooked up and then all of a sudden

two months later like you owe me uh you owe me uh 20,000 from that one day right what? You know what to me? And those commoters are skeevy bro. Fuck yeah. So like bro I just, for me it's just I don't even bro. I don't even go to the club. I'm chilling all the time.

I go to cigar lounge. That's the only thing I do. But you have your, you have a straight. Yeah, I have a different. But yeah, for young guys bro, it's hard. Like if I was here as a rookie, I don't even know what the fuck. I was fucking wild.

Yeah. I was going to say like you've been, you've been really vocal about your whole process. Yeah. you first came in the league, imagine if you were in Vegas. Bro, it would be crazy. And that's the thing, like I say, like these rookies, I can't sit here and be like, stay in your house and do it.

Like, because at the end of the day, bro, guys are going to go out. Especially if you're single. Guys are going to, especially if you're going to be out doing whatever you're going to do. It's just about being smart, bro. Be cautious. Don't go out by yourself. Don't go out with people you don't know. Like, you really got to roll with the people you trust and stay out the bullshit because

there's a bunch of bullshit going on, especially at that. bro, you go out to a nightclub, you don't know what the fuck's going to happen. You know what I mean? Somebody, they see you, they know you're an NFL player, you're immediately a target. No matter what it is.

Like, they want whatever you got. And people are willing to lose whatever they have to fucking get what you have. People will fucking rob you in broad daylight. They don't care. And that's just the thing, you know, for the young guys, just knowing who you're around

and don't just be out and about. Like, it's normal. You know what I mean? You're not. I think that's the thing. Like, I still have to slap myself. stuff because I'll drive and pull up to a gas station by myself and the fucking big chain I'm I won't even think about it you know what I mean and that's that's now like as I gotten older like

I truly have to like slap myself in the face like I'm not I can't just roll around and do whatever like normal sometimes because people are crazy bro you see it all the time guys NFL players go to L.A. and get fucking their whole shit robbed and taken and they're just going out there to go hang out with family it's like it's dangerous bro especially nowadays but you see more and more of it all the time Can you talk about when the switch with Derek Carr was made, how it impacted you and how you felt like it probably impacted the team in that moment, if at all, because obviously there was a lot of noise outside of the building.

Yeah. A lot of noise. Definitely outside the building. It was tough, bro. I remember that morning. Because DC's been the defranchised guy since you've came to the Raiders. Yeah. Yeah, he was all four years.

is my quarterback is nine years of the starter, which is crazy. It doesn't happen. So, yeah, I'm sitting there. You're hearing rumors like, okay, is Derek going to get benched this week? You know, what is going on, blah, blah, blah. And you're just kind of hearing rumors, rumor. But you know how it is. You don't believe all this shit.

You're just like, okay, we'll see. And then all of a sudden, like, we went in that morning, and me and D.C. are always the first two guys in there. And we sit there and eat breakfast. So squad is at 8 We're in there at 6 o'clock And we sit there and we eat breakfast together We talk we go in the hot tub

I go take a dump And then he goes and does whatever he does You know what I mean So I go in there And D.C. wasn't there At the breakfast table And so I asked Angie who's there She runs the kitchen

She's the best shout out to Angie This is the camera I love you Angie She's the best She always sits with us and watches it And just chops it up with us And I was like Angie where's D.C Have you seen him? She's like no he hasn't been in yet

And that's in my head, I'm like, fuck. You know what I mean? Something went down. So, yeah, like an hour later, I'm in my locker. I just got out the hot tub. And D.C. walks in. And he's looking at me. I just knew.

Like, I just knew immediately. And he just, whatever. He gave me a man hug. He's like, bro, I don't want to make it look like I'm, you know, quitting on y'all or anything. But, like, me and Josh talk. Like, you know, I'm going to be, I'm going to go home for these next two weeks and, you know, figure out my situation. But it was like, you know, obviously they had their business behind the scenes and they've had, you know, had an agreement.

So like it wasn't like he's just like, fuck it. I'm not showing up. It was just like, you know, business. So, yeah, it was tough. Like, D.C.'s my boy, bro. Like, me and D.C. have been always, you know, as friends. Like, bro, he's a great dude. I love D.C.

And he's going to, you know, somebody's going to have him as their starting next year. And hopefully I get to play against him would be dope. But I wish him the best, bro. It's just, it's hard. Like, in this league, there's really, you know, you can play for a team for 10 years, give everything you got, like, but unless you're like Michael Jordan or you're Tom Brady, like even Tom Brady, it's the same thing. Like, bro, he was in year 21, six Super Bowl, and he ended with a bad relationship and they got rid of,

you know what I mean? And there was kind of friction, like, it's crazy, bro, at the end of the day. So it's a business. It's a business. And that's the thing you got to realize. It's not personal. It's not like people don't like. DC everyone you know everyone's cool at DC we love them but it is what it is you know Josh and

Dave they got their vision of what they want and you know that's just part of this business man and I trust them you know I'm on this team and they're my coaches that at the end of the day I got to believe in what they got you know what I mean and what they're bringing and what they're doing but at the same time it's hard when it's your boy and there's emotion to it so it's like damn what the fuck and then you like you want to get mad but it's like at the same time you have to understand both sides of it and that's kind of what I've learned you know in the league more. It's like you can't, you can't take shit personally because it's not personal, bro. It's a billion dollar business and it is what it is.

Dude, I've been around Derek just like a handful of times. He's like the nicest. He seems like the nicest guy. Yeah, he's a great dude. Focus, kind, like charismatic, good dude. So he's gone. This is the offseason. Hypothetically, who do you want to be the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders? Who do I want? Like if it was just your world, they call you, say, who you want. You got who you want. You get to play GM for a day. You get to play GM. Now, this will be taken out of context. People are like, oh, Max wants this guy, wants that guy.

I'm just saying perfect world boss. Yeah, fun hypothetical. Fun hypothetical. We're just hitting. We're having a little giggle time, dude. Yeah. This is a nice little time. Just boys hanging out. Tom Brady might be on the market. Two dogs. Three dogs.

I don't even see a little one over there. Yeah, she's snuck in. Yeah, she's snuck in behind the tank, dude. Tom Brady? I would love to have Tom Brady. Oh. how I don't know how that can be controversy fucking Tom Brady

as a leader as a fucking player as the goat as the goat fuck yeah I would love to play with Tom Brady bro if he can to if come to Vegas bro have you meet him

I'll fucking I'll go to wherever he's at to introduce myself the level of respect I got for him bro is out this world so yeah I would love to have Tom Brady but we'll see I don't know what's going to happen but I've I've only met him when I played him two years ago it was the COVID year

and he was on the field we played in Vegas empty-ass stadium we come in for pregame and I always like early on in my career I'd always like kind of walk around the field and it was like a part of my routine

and like my full pre-game outfit like just my fit and I'm walking by myself going around and then fucking Brady walks out of the locker and by himself and I'm like oh my God like I felt it I felt the aura and

And I seen him. We didn't say anything to each other at the time. Whatever, I was just walking to him. I think he's walking. He's just kind of looking around, looking at the stadium, which is, in hindsight, it's kind of crazy. You know, it's just plodding out his next team. But, yeah.

But anyway, so I talked to him after the game. He's, you know, obviously he's a great dude. He was super cool. But, yeah, bro, I would love, obviously, I would love that time, Brady. He's a goat. He is the goat. Dude.

Very few people you ever meet in your life have that kind of aura. Yeah, it's different, bro. But everyone I've met who has met Tom is like, dude, there's like a glow behind him. It's different, bro. Yeah. He's like too handsome. Yeah. He's too handsome.

I feel like he's had something done. Oh, yeah. But he's a classy amount. Like, he doesn't look like he's. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new?

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Like, you know my man, this Botox. Like, it's, you know them teeth ain't real. No. But I think he's done a classy amount of work. High-class amount of work. He doesn't get, like, filler and stuff, and, like, all, you know what I'm saying? I would like to know what's happening to his cheeks. Like, what's going down with the cheeks?

Yeah. You see Staffie baby? Oh, no. What the... I'm not going to even deal it. He says some shit, I can't say. But yeah, dude, he does. Because you look like pictures of him,

and I hope on this YouTube right now we're flashing a picture of Tom from his rookie year. Because my God, he had that rounded out face. No cheekbones. No cheekbones. No, it's different.

Yeah, bro, he's different now. He's like 47. He's like 47. Dude. He's not 47. He's getting younger. On the... Do you think he still got it?

Sorry, I hate to cut you off. I know you're probably. you're pivoting, but do you think Tom still has it? Absolutely. I love that. I agree with you 100%. Absolutely. I hate when people...

You think so? I mean, 40s, like mid-40s. It doesn't matter. They said that when he was 40. You know, he's 46 now. Look how they got into the playoffs, bro. He was snapping and having come back games. He threw for 400 yards just two weeks ago.

They had a lot of injuries, bro. Get receipts. They had... I watched football and Tom could still play. Their whole line was getting murdered this year. And that's just out of respect. I think they were ranked last in the league. Like he was getting hit all the time.

They had a lot of injuries. Their backs were hurt. Like, they had a lot of shit going on. But it's funny, you look back. You see what he did his last year in New England when y'all beat him. Everyone said the same thing. Oh, he's done. He's done.

And this is, I look at it. And I like to write that little story. It's like, oh, well, it's going to be his last hooprod. I know two or three year deal. You know, in Las Vegas. Yeah. Finish the career. Go get a ring.

He knows the boy. He knows. He knows. He just, come on. Let's be real. Yeah. So we'll see. And you got studs on offense, too.

Do you get a line? Our old line was played a lot better than people expected this year. That's awesome. They did really well. Josh led the league and rushing yours. Josh led him rushing. Snap. Chip on his shoulder.

Devante went for over 1,500. We have Colt Miller, one of the best left tackles in the league. We got a lot of, bro, we got a lot of tall guys. For sure. Do you think, what do you think, Josh Jacobs's future? is with the Raiders right now because he's about to be a free agent he's free agent yeah so I know for a fact that the coaches love them um obviously when they first came they we had three first round picks from my class it was cleave Josh and john abram and before the year they declined all their fifth year

so everyone's like oh fuck they're cleaning you know how they are in new england they don't value the running dog boom boom boom boom from my perspective I know Josh like me and Josh have been boys since I got there. And Josh is one of those people that, like, he need, like, I feel like he needs that little extra motivation. Like, oh, you don't, okay. I remember exactly what you said. He's going to make you look dumb.

And that's what I feel like this year was. Like, everyone was saying, oh, it's New England. They don't, you know, they don't value running backs the same. They'll just bring him in. Josh literally was the best running back in the league and this year, and you can't even argue it. Every category, yards per carry, broken tackles. amount of first downs run like he did everything and so

I'm extremely proud of him obviously being being one of my boys but I think he's going to stay here bro and no matter I don't know how that's what that's going to look like if they tag or try to sign extension but I think he's one thousand percent earned an extension like the dude has been a pro bowler I think this is third time now in four years so like he's the dude is a dog he's an absolute dog you know Josh he's the shit he plays through he's always banged up And he's always about like, you know,

I remember we got our assail from the Chiefs. Yeah. And he was so pissed about him fumbling, like early in the game. And just like, man, on the outside looking in, what do you feel like it is? I'm like, I just fucking got it. Like, we just got our asshole type of deal. But he's very much like in it.

He loves football. Yeah, he loves ball. That's what I talk about. The guys like that, the Devantes, we need guys that have that mindset. No matter what the town level, the Daron Harmon's the dudes who really love football, that's what you need in the best.

And Josh is 100% that guy. Going back just for a second on the DC situation, was there ever a time where you're like, fuck, man, because there is a lot, you know, that, like, I think it was a statistic that was out there that the Raiders have been ranked like bottom-tier defense since he's been a quarterback. Do you, like, ever sit there?

You're like, fuck, man, like you put a little bit on yourself. Obviously, you ultimately don't or you can't, but you're just like, fuck if we could have just... honestly bro i don't know how to answer that you know what i mean early in his career like their defense is like bottom defense every year like we haven't been the worst of the worst but we haven't been great um but also you just look at it we've had three different de-coordinators in the last three years so like i think stability is a big thing as well um and that's something you know having pat graham back next year for the second year i feel like we're only going to get better and you know

having Josh back. Like everybody, if it immediately doesn't work, they're like, fuck it, fire everyone. That's the outside world. And that's just, you know, that's natural. Because you see other coaches, like day ball comes in, boom, Giants, playoffs, already won a playoff game, be like, oh, fuck, why aren't we doing that?

Josh automatically gets compared to that. Immediately compare, but every situation is different. And so, you know, it is what it is. You know, from the fans' perspective, it's like, what the fuck, fuck to him, we're firing him, but that's how they think about every coach if you don't succeed right away. But, you know, I feel like Josh is doing the right thing.

It's just going to take time for sure. And I feel like we're, you know, we're going the right direction. Are you the, were you the biggest pro bowl snub in the league? I made the pro ball. Or all pro. My fault. All pro. Woof.

My fault. My fault. That is tough. My phone. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

Were you the biggest all pro snub in the league? That's not me to decide, but. You're a competitive mother. fucker, dude. No, this shit fucking pissed me up. I saw, like, you vocalize it a little bit

or enough to be like, hey, this is a receipt I'm keeping. Yeah, for sure. But it's like anything else, bro. When I look at it, you know, you have this own story in your head, boom, this is how it's going to go. I want this.

I want this. I'm going to get this. Like this year, bro, if I look at, like, I made All-Pro last year. A second team, all-pro, I had eight sacks. But I had 100 plus pressures, boom, whatever. And that was like, you know, from the outside world,

everyone's like, oh, it was a fucking flash in the pan. He was just doing it because it was a contract. He needed to get a contract. Like, I heard that shit all off season. Like, okay, it was like this big storybook. Max told everybody about his sobriety story. Like, it was just like, people that's everyone had like, oh, it's just too good to be true.

That was his year. But, like, people, I feel like people in the outside world didn't truly respect me, like, fully as like a Miles Garrett or T.J. Watts. Because, you know, they're all first round picks. They're all top 10 guys. They're all consistently ballers. Like, so for me, going into this year, like, My attitude was like, fuck that.

Like, I'm that guy. Like, I'm going to be that guy. I'm going to be, because I'm always compared ever since Kalil Mack left, like everyone talks about how the Raiders been missing a pass rush or missing Kalil Maq. We haven't recovered from Kalil Maq leaving. And that's like something I take super serious, bro. Like, and I take offense to that shit.

Like, but in a good way, I let it use it as motivation. And so, like, in my storybook, like, I have a lot of things that I want to do. And going into this year, like, All right, how am I going to do better? How am I going to do better than second team all pro? Okay, I want to be first team all pro. I want to do, there's a lot of things, but I'm not like a big like number. I don't put a number on anything.

Like I'm going to get this amount of sacks, this amount of blah, blah, blah. For me, it's like I'm going to fucking improve. Well, whatever that looks like, I'm going to improve as a player and take it to a whole other step. And just from a film perspective, from a stat perspective, I did that in literally every facet. I led the team in tackles at the end. I have fucking 89 tackles. Like I had 22 TFLs I led the league. I had 12 and a half sacks.

It was like tied six. Pressures. I was top three in the league. Like every category, like I took big strides. And for me in my head, like my perfect story is boom, I'm going to start in the Pro Bowl again. I got that. The last thing was all pro. And I'm waiting.

I'm like, boom, I can't wait. And then all of a sudden I look at the list. I'm like, what? And like I was shook, bro. Like I was hurt. Like, you know what I mean? Deep down, like, that shit hurt my pride. I'm like, what the fuck?

I got better, bro. I know I got better. And I didn't make it. And that's like, that's the thing. And in my perspective, in my world, like, I wanted. That was the final thing that I fucking wanted on this season. You know, we didn't make the playoffs. I knew we weren't making the playoffs.

Like, just from my personal goals. And then I didn't get that. And I'm like, all right, motherfuckers. Like, I, the season, went great, but I'm not doing enough. That's just the way I took it. And I know I got better. Like y'all must have forgot.

Yeah. But at the same time, like, bro, like, yeah, like, I know I got better. My goal was to get better. I did, bro, everything in my power all fucking offseason. I did everything right. And then that was the last thing that I wanted. And boom, I didn't get it. And so for me, I could sit there and bitch and go on Twitter,

fuck that is bullshit. You know, you see guys all the time, bitching about the shit. You see just a couple games ago when a fucking dude had a meltdown and blaming the refs and I see dudes blame it well fucking old linemen hold all the time refs don't call it like I'll never be that guy bro

I think that's you know shit like that is so weak to me like you're gonna get held like I'm I know I get held all the time bro you watch the Rams last drive against us where I was getting literally tackled but I'm not going to go and double down and go look like a little fucking cry baby you know what I mean that's not me

so at the end of the day like the last thing I wanted was to get that all pro. But I know at the end of the day, like, I'm going to look back next year when I do everything I set out to do and be like, yeah, the shit was for a reason. God needed that little, that little thing that's going to fucking push me to do that extra little rap, the extra little shit. And it is what it is. Like, that shit pisses me.

Like, it really hurt me. You see him here. Hey, day, don't you like that? You know, that's kind of not for me to decide. He's like, hey, come on now. He's like, man, I'm fucking. Bro, that shit, yeah. I'm going to let you.

I know, bro. It's juicy. Fuck that shit, dude. No. I'm like, I get it. It is what it is. And I can't do anything. Like, in my young self, like, I thought the same thing.

Like, my rookie, when I was going, my rookie year, like, I thought I was going to win rookie of the year. I thought I should have won it. I didn't. And, but that helped me the next year. Like, it's always something that every player needs that little extra motivation. And like, I can't control that. But at the end of the day, bro, I know, like, it's all going to pay off.

Like, it's all going to. I don't need to force it and talk on Twitter and do all this extra shit and complain and what is that going to do for me, bro? It's going to make me look like an ass if I go next year and don't play as well. You know what I mean? Like I'm going to do everything I can

to be better than I was this year and that's what's going to push me. So, yeah, it is what it is. So if you're looking at it now, like I was snubbed, that pissed you off? I think that I got to work harder and do. What are things, little minor critiques you make to your off-season training regiment

that might get you that? All pro. Honestly, I think that's something I'm looking at right now before I start training again. Yeah. Before I start training again, I do it every year, especially these last two years. You train here? Yeah, I train in Vegas. Yeah.

Do you train the facility? Facility, yeah. So, yeah, that's something I'm evaluating right now. Sorry, he's like, he hears my mouth in the microphone. Dude, we. We'll, bro. Anytime someone goes and starts talking, he opens his mouth like that. Oh, man, shit's going on up, up, up, up top.

And he's juicing me up, I can't. Put your lips together. Like, I'm in, you know what I mean? I'm just like, it's just me taking it in, I guess. I can't fucking help. You said, you got me wild. I'm fucking fired up. You know, it was so, bro.

You never was like a hype little deal right there. I was hard. Someone needs to cut that and put that a bunch of music behind them. This is a Spartan music, yeah. Dude. It's like Drake, dude. Yeah. I had somebody tell me I fell off.

Ooh, I needed that. Yeah, I needed it. But that's, yeah, for me, like, my routine, that's something I'm a breakdown. Like, I've already talked to the strength staff. The nutritionist, we've already sat down and boom, we're going to, this is what we're going to do, little adjustments where I can, you know, improve on. But it's not the work ethic part of it. Bro, I put in, I know I work fucking extremely hard.

It's just about how can I make it a little bit better? What can I do a little bit smarter? A little shit like that. And so that like this second year, like going into my third year, there was a lot of big adjustments I had to make. And I felt like I took another big step. Like I added boxing into my off days instead of just doing strictly tubs and chilling. Like I added an hour of boxing in that. So there's something, you know, there's always going to be little shit.

Like I'm starting, I'm going to add yoga this offseason. Like just adding a little shit. But, you know, I don't know everything yet, but just try to take that, take that next big step. because I know in this league, bro, like, if the biggest thing is the guys that continue to do it, and you know this fucking well being a pro boy doing it over and over, like, do you either get worse or you get better? And, like, there's no in between. You don't just stay the same.

You don't, like, for me, it's, I can't, like, I can't even, I don't even know what life would look like just in my brain if I didn't do all the things I was doing out. Like, if I could just chill this off season, like, some, a lot of guys do it. They're fucking chilling. And, and just take a step back. I can't even sit. Like I have to take this time off to just let my body rest, but I'm still meal prep and stretching,

Norma taking every day. Like, I have to do it for my own sanity. So, like, that's what it is for me, bro, just taking that next step. I'm fucking,

like, obsessed with the process because I know where I want to go and I can't do it any other way. So I'm just fine-tuning everything. And we'll, you know, we'll see what we got on the agenda this off season.

And the addiction becomes a superpower. Hell, yeah. It's real shit. It's real shit. It's real shit. You know, this is an outstanding first impression for me with you. I'm very impressed. I'm glad you guys are finally meeting, too.

It's crazy because it's like, I'm like, damn, I thought, I guess you guys haven't met each other. Yeah, it's just crazy. Because when I, when I saw you, you were waiting for us outside, which was a very kind of you, by the way, to wait for us. When we were pulling up. Next to the room. I legit saw it. Oh, there's the boy. Like, I literally feel like we've met before.

100% and hung out. So this has been, and it's cool to see your mindset because you've got it, bud. I appreciate it. Everything but being white, like everything's going for you. That means a lot, bro. I appreciate it for me. When I got to Oakland and my boy checked in on me after my first day of school with the Raiders. And I was like, hey, somebody on the squad is like a fan of busting with the boys.

I was like, it's Max Crosby. You weren't who you are now, but it was like, I don't know. Now looking back, that's fucking cool. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool because when you went to me. You like, he's like telling something. He goes, no, this man's famous. I'm just kind of sitting there, like, nervous.

You know, first day in the meeting. Oh, you think there's somebody, huh? He's like, no, I'll rock with Bustle with the Boys. I'm like, yo, let's fucking go. That's a hilarious contrast to you going up to Will being like, hey, I fuck with you guys. And then Richie incognito being like, oh, I do Bustin with the Bullies. Oh, I love me. Just bullying.

Yeah, bullying. Fucking bullying. What was it like playing with Richie? Shit, I love Richie. He's awesome. He's one of my favorite teammates I've ever had. The dude is, he, like, you talk about work ethic. That motherfucker works, bro.

And like takes care, the way he took care of his body, how massive he is and playing 15 years. Wide body. Bro, a fucking semi-struck. And he looks like he's 16 years old in the face. He's no stress. Like, he just, a dude is different. He's bent through a lot of shit and, like, just being around him and getting to, you know, become closer with him. Like, he was truly one of the best teammates I had, like, take me under the wing, like, type of dude.

Like, he was exactly that guy. Like, for some reason, when I first got there, like, we practiced. you know, we start practicing doing OTAs together. And like, we started to like become boys because I'm fucked up in the head. Like he is like I'm practicing hard as fuck. Like we're not even in pads. And I know I'm a rookie. I'm just trying to make an impression and like I'm flying around the field.

And for some reason, like Richie obviously is he's paying attention a little bit, seeing how I do shit. And like he just, we immediately clicked because he respected it, just how I did shit. And ever since then, bro, we became boys. And I still like when he retired, I went up and seen him like on his retirement. and like me and him have always been really cool and he goes to all the freaking games I'll be on the sideline about to walk

the game's about to start he'll be in there in a polo back to fucking grab me give me a biggest hug in the planet and fucking throw my rib out because he squeezes the life out of me but he's yeah he's fucking I can go on and out about Richie bro

he's a loyal die hard just like real real bro a healthy a healthy Richie is like one of the best friends to have no literally he is an incredible human being absolutely What a massive fucking dog He's a big boy

Now he stood up and everybody can see him too Everybody's like holy shit He literally he like take my life any second Oh any time he wanted Max I like I came in the house Before I came in the house And Max is like Hey it's us the Jonas brothers

And guess what we have some big news What's the news? Huge news We created our own podcast Called Hey Jonas We invented a podcast Well we didn't invent it We just contributed to it

We're the first people to do podcasts Pretty Yeah pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we, how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say,

Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.

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Hey just walk straight Don't really don't look down I don't make any facial expressions And I'm just kind of like walking the house And Max just starts laughing He's like yo he's not gonna do nothing But the dude's fucking massive Hey watch the wires

Watch the wires, Dirk Derek go buddy He just gonna He'll be fine He'll stay on there for like five minutes He was assessing the situation Before I came over here He doesn't want to fuck it up.

Careful dog. Should you do tear talk? Yeah, do we have? Let's take a quick pause. And then we'll come back to Tier Talk. Yeah. All right. So for Tier Talk this week, we are going to do best dog breeds.

And I feel like best and favorite. There's a great line there because I'm sure you can look at the best dogs and it's probably not going to equal that with us. We'll say our favorite dog breeds for our Tier Talk. Yeah. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first? I can go first.

My, uh, no honorable. mentions. My tier three is going to be Rottweiler. With a dog growing up, my parents' first dog before they had me. You know how parents do the trial run. Like, well, let's do a dog. We can take care of a dog. We can take care of a baby type thing. They had a Rottweiler named Conan, after Conan the Barbarian. They had him trained all the way up to like he could have been like some kind of like the police style training dog, but he would have had to leave for like three months, but a very well-trained Rottweiler. And so ever since, Like growing up with Conan, it was like I loved Rottweilers.

My tier two, what I currently have, Waffle, English Bulldogs. They're just so, like, unique to me, dude. And, like, you come home, they don't greet you. They stay on the couch. You go in, like, you have to go give them love. They kind of just look sad and, like, but they love you. All they want to do is cuddle. Yeah, they got a couple issues, yeah.

But all in all, like, I love English Bulldogs. buddies would have would have them when I was growing up and I'd go to their house and I'd love playing with them. And then Rob Deerick on Fantasy Factor and everything. When they had that dog

and it was skateboard and everything else, I just always saw it was the fucking coolest. My tier one, Pit Bulls. I know it's, I know you love pits as well. I think pit bulls are fucking awesome. Yeah.

I used to have a pit named Boogie. I named my dog Boogie after Levante David. Levante David's nickname in college was Boogie, a little horny boy. And so I told Boogie, I said, when I get my first dog, it's going to be a pit, and I'm going to name him after you. So that's my story about having my pit.

Then, you know, my girlfriend and I broke up out of, you know, guilt. You kind of like, you can have, yeah, we can. You know, got to get a man. Yeah. We can cut that part out. But, um, did, uh, pit bulls, dude, pit bulls. I think, I think they're fucking awesome. Is boogie?

Uh, no. No. No. If you guys hear a baby, that's Max's newborn. She's a stud. She's trying to get some time in on the pod. You got to respect it. Gotta respect that.

Yeah, she likes a touch. But that's my tear talk. Now what the rule is, you go around, the room, and everybody gives a one word answer on how they feel like your tear talk went. Kind of like a judgment thing. Okay. I'll let Taylor start this.

Diseased. Jesus. Not a fan of Pitts. Magnificent. Fun contrast there. Yeah. J.P. What would your word be? I'll go ahead and echo it. Swole.

Swole. Mitch? Almost. Do you want to go? You want me to go next? I'll go. All right. Go ahead. I'll go. Tier three. I'm going to start off. A little curveball. You know, the only dogs I've ever had are pits. My parents, they own little yappy little fuckers.

I love them, but I never claimed them. I'm going to start Tier 3 with Dobermans. And the reason why is because they're excellent athletes. They're fucking terrifying. And there's something about them. Every time I see a Doberman, you get a little, like, you don't know what's going to happen. Is he going to kill me? Is he going to kill me?

Or is he like, I want this dude by my side. Yeah. So every time I see a Doberman, I just have a level of respect for the dog that I felt like it needed to make the list because, you know, they're not loved on enough, I feel like. And they're feared in a way. but I respect them. Tier two, I'm going to have to go with Rottweilers. My teammates in college, a ton of them had Rottweilers. Cleve Farrell, he's got a Rottweiler, great dog.

Super loyal, big-ass teddy bears, but if they need to get the job done, they'll get the job done. So I respect the shit out of them as well. But number one, unanimous decision, pit bulls. I got three best dogs on the planet. They're loving. They're loyal as fuck. But they will take you down if you cross the line.

And that's the thing with them. Especially that big motherfucker. Yeah. My big guy, he's two pit bulls and one. Is he known as like an ex-L? He's an ex-l bully. So he's a pit and a American bulldog. The other two are pit mixes.

Yeah. So, yeah, the thing with pits, bro, like they're super loyal, but they're big babies at the end of the day. Like if they love you, they're going to just lay out. Like they act like they're a human in the house. And every time I come home, the response is always the same. So I respect their consistency. I expect that they got the grit and they're dangerous enough

where people, you know, have a little bit of fear when they try to cross the line. But they'll always be there for you. So big shout out to pit bulls all around the world. Gritty. Yes. J.P. Buckless. Dominant for JP, Mitch?

Tough. Alfa. Speaking of, dude, I wish the camera can catch that. Look at that. Man, did you try to rob this place and that dog's right there? Come here, Dirk. Dirk, come here. All right.

There he comes. That was the most Dan Campbell four answers I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Grit. Tough. Chevy Taho. She should just say Dan Campbell. We could have just said Silverado.

That would have said all. All right. My tear talk. Bro, he just walks loud. He's having. Yeah. All three of my tears are pit bulls. Okay, let's see.

By tier three, I grew up on a ranch in Arizona. Every cowboy had this dog, and it was the blue healer. Those dogs would work cows. They'd work with horses. They'd work with sheep. They do the job that need to get done. The reason why they're not higher on my list is because they are a, rambunctious, energetic, and if they're not trained properly, they will absolutely ankle

bite any visitor at all times. I love the way they look. I love the way they get after it, and they're hardworking just like the Chevy Silverado, and that's why they must be in my list. I love that. That is my tier three. Taylor, I don't want to cut you off, but those blue healers look very similar to like German Shepherds, but they're kind of smaller, right? Or am I completely are they're shorter hair. Dirk is getting the business out there. They're shorter. They're shorter-haired. it's hard to explain like any more you've seen with a cowboy in it smart dog that's okay

was very yeah extremely smart and we'll go all day like they'll go and work all day for you but if you want to own one you got to like you gotta have some wide open spaces for him to run yeah my tier two this dog would have never made my list until I met my wife

she has this dog I think I didn't know what to think of them I thought they were beautiful majestic I thought scenery like up in the mountains with the snow I'm like wow what a beautiful dog but I don't think I'll ever own this one. This dog is going to be the husky. Siberian husky. They shed

like shit, but my wife's dog, Akira, getting pets from hers like pickles on a sandwich. She'll take them or leave them. It doesn't really matter to her. She hangs out, she does her thing. She's the most low-maintenance dog in the world, and it's completely changed my views on huskies. I think they're an incredible species of animal, extremely smart and very vocal. and my tier one goes out to the greatest dog

you could possibly get. When you go down to a humane society and you look around those little crates and gates and you see dogs staring at you, it's not just one type of dog. It's a whole bunch of types of dogs.

And when you take a cocktail combination of animals and you put them together, most of the time you're going to get the best combo possible. So my tier one is the mutt. The mix of all those animals, you put them together, they look funny most of the time,

they are funny most of time, and they usually have the best personalities. So the mutt, those pound puppies, are my tier one. Sure. Unique. J.B. said politically correct. What do you mean?

I've never owned the number one. The god team. here. Why not honorable mention it? Why not honorable mention it? You love the chihuahua. I had him in there, but he's right. That's why I got a little up in arms as I thought, damn, I'm going to get it.

I don't think I'm ready to take this right now. I'm not ready to take these hands on the internet. But I do love the chihuahua. I think the chihuahua is fucking hilarious. When I was a little kid and I would see the Tierra Taco Bell dog ripping around the little short hair brown colors, I would always think to myself, someday I'm going to have this dog and I would have little matching outfits maybe cool little glasses

little chill boys hanging out now I have a stipulation for these dogs that I'm going to get someday I will own a chihuahua someday I have to make sure that I got this has got to be an anomaly of a chihuahua it can't bark and it can't bite other than that dude they're chill boys and they're outstanding maybe you can't bark can't bite

boys gonna have a muzzle chihuahua I'm not gonna stereotype but every chihuahua I've met is the meanest fucking dog I've ever met my life. Number two in a dog attacks. Yeah. So the Chihuahua is the right number two amongst all dogs

in attacks. Wow. That's, that's, wow. You want to read your one word? No, no. If you were going to have Chihuahua, I was going to have high maintenance.

It's sucks. I know who I am. Anyways. Wow. Yeah. Well, boys and girls, that is the way to end of the episode. Yeah.

Shout out Chihuahua. Is there anything else we got for Maxi? I don't think so. Were you guys listening throughout the episode? was intrigued to get a question out. I'd go any further into anything he was saying? Mitch loves ball, so I'm kind of looking at Mitch. I feel like he was getting a boner over there listening to you.

Talk about fucking work ethic and shit. Our ESPN reporter, Mitch, wants to know what Devante Adams brings to a team. Devonte Adams. The thing with him, like, I've been, you know, you were there with the whole AB saga. Well, you came after. I came right after, but it was that same year. Yeah, it was that same year. So that was the first superstar receiver I ever dealt with.

So I'm like, okay, this is, you know, you hear their divas. So I got to experience that whole thing. So my first, like, initial thought was like, okay, I've heard nothing but good things about Devante. Like, just from the outside world, like, you don't hear him talking, like, I'm the best, blah, blah, blah. Like, on the outside, he's not, he's never been that guy. So when he was coming, I was kind of, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know if he was, you know, what he was like, whatever. Get another AB situation.

Yeah, like, maybe another fucking diva. Like, that's not the guy you want in the locker room, regardless. And the day he came in there, bro, like, when I talk about everything I talked about, like a teammate you want a dude who fucking practices the right way, fucking trains the right way, every single day, he's that guy, bro. And he's one of the most humble dudes, but extremely confident at the same time. He's not arrogant. He's not that. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking, I'm,

originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then

I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care. where you hear it.

Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself.

I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jenchian win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French, me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina.

is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing huge. human potential. Either way, the podcast, Superhuman, documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But he knows who he is, you know what I mean? And that's the level of confidence that a lot of guys can't get to. Because when you talk about Devante Adams,

just immediately, oh, he's best receiver in the league. Like, he's always in that conversation. So he's just a great teammate, bro, and he's awesome. Like, just being around him, I fucking love Devante. Like, he, I don't know how to explain it, bro. He's unique. He's super fucking smart. Like, he's just a different type of dude.

And you could tell, like, there's a reason why he's different. You know what I mean? Just the way he plays, bro. He has no fear. He knows he's the guy. And, like, he loves football. And that's really all you can say about him, bro. I can go on and on.

he's a great teammate bro I love him to death and I've only known him for a year bro I fucking I've talked to him all the time like it's not like you know most locker rooms like sometimes you just talk to your D-line guys and stuff like that like DeVante is one of those guys like he's one of the best teammates on the team I talk to him all the time he's a captain

he's just uh yeah he's a total package that's fucking dumb yeah he's a stud I fucking love that dude he's a stud good question good work Mitchie yeah oh Shot, slight shot.

That's okay. That's okay. We're always looking to improve. We're in the truth. Yeah, so, improve. Yeah. If you can hear that in the background right now, Dirk is chugging.

Yeah, he doesn't take in a single breath. He's getting after it, dude. On that, I totally forgot about the A-B thing. As a rookie, what was that experience like for you? Was it as bad as it seemed? Yeah, I bet that was wild. Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't know how to explain it.

So when I first came in, boom I got drafted by the Raiders we signed like we had signed A.B. Richie Vontes Burfick like we like every big like you think about the craziest

motherfuck they were all on our team so I didn't know what to expect the A.B. shit like A.B. is a person like if you if A.B. sat here with us right now and you generally like it's just us in the room no cameras nothing you would love A.B.

You would love A. B. You'd be like he's down to earth. He's a great dude. but the second he left the building, bro, you didn't know what the fuck was about to happen. It was every day, bro. He would go, what's up, man. Hey, man, what up, man, eastern Michigan, blah, blah, blah. I played, you know, he played a central.

Like, that was like my end with him. As a rookie, I'm like, I want to be cool with that motherfucker. And so we were cool. But, like, you would go home, and all of a sudden there's something on Instagram. And then, like, as a shit started getting crazy, because he came in, he burned his feet off. And then he had the helmet shit.

So he was never practicing. He never was around the office. season we're like what the fuck is going on he would show up here and there but like and wouldn't it be with like a camera crew and shit like oh he would bring a posse with him everywhere to the facility this lock room yeah in the facility it was not a it was kind of like a high schoolish like you had some aisles but not a lot of room in the in the facility locker room bro like he had his own posse so it was like in the weight room he had his own trainers come so it was just a lot bro but you would never like if you just sat there like he can be really like he's not I don't

I don't know. He's got his own shit. He's got to deal with. You know what I mean? There's a lot of shit that's going on. But like my experience one on one with him outside of the media, outside of that shit, like he was cool as fuck. But I don't know. He's got a lot of shit going on. But like Vantes, like Vantes, you would think about Vantes Bufi. You're like, oh my God. That's a fucking murder. He's the fucking coolest dude, bro. Like coolest shit. He came right out to me. It was like, at first I was terrified. I'm like, okay, this is Vontes Perfect. That's a bad motherfucker. fucking like yeah i was you know i'm gonna try to earn that respect like i didn't even know how to talk to him at first he was cool as shit great leader like great dude in the locker room like everyone fucked with him and he was a real leader um he was dope and then richie's the same thing like obviously richie's had his shit too like he's gone through a lot of shit but richie is a fucking great teammate so yeah my whole experience with everybody like you would think from the outside it was like oh my god but like inside the building like ab was gone before the season like we're just waiting like we're like okay okay

is A.B. even going to play? Like, there was something after, there's just always something. And then he leaked, like, Gruden's call on the fucking Instagram. Bro, literally after he came up and talked to the whole team. He came up, bro. All the captains went up there. A.B. walked up on the stage. He apologized.

We're like, all right, I bet. So we're like, okay, he's about to play. Like, fuck yeah. A.B's on board now. So everyone's excited. Bro, that night he posted the shit with Gruden and how, you know what? That is fucking wild. bro, the same day.

And I'm a rookie, me and clear, tell you're like, bro, what? Like, we literally just talked about this shit. He's like,

I'm done with the games, man. I apologize. Everyone's like, oh, fuck it, bro. Like, we get it.

Like, everybody goes through shit. So like, I'm, I'm, that's, from my personal, bro,

I always give people the benefit of the doubt. So like, I, this A. Like, fuck it. He's going through his shit. But like,

he wants to play. Everything seems 100% genuine, boom, boom, boom, boom. literally that night he puts on Instagram like the whole Gruden shit and just like I'm like what and then by the next morning he was cut

being clear in the building Mayok's walking up through the hallway with a smile because Mayock had to deal with all this shit and Mayock really wanted him to be a part of it Gruden they fucking they wanted to love him but like there was more to it you know what I mean he was going I don't know what he was going through

but like and I pray for dudes like that I don't know what he's got what he's got going on upstairs like it's tough but yeah like people were like it was like a breath of fresh air bro it was something every single day and he was supposed to be our franchise guy yeah like we're bringing a b to fucking lost like the best bro the best he was so not even close i'm like he's my team bro he's the coldest and they said like when he's out on the practice field like that motherfucker is running all day long running and trying to do extra after like it's just it seems like a bizarre

i've never seen anything like it was there ever a weird dynamic between Vantes Burrf and AB? Not at all. Really? Boys. You would think because he fucking executed him on the cloud. Everyone's like, go-to. It's like, AB was never the same after that hit.

That's what people say. Yeah, they're like, oh, he got CT from that. You know, everyone that's what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, everybody does say that. They're like, oh, they must fucking not. Bro, when they came in the fucking locker room, bro, everybody was, everybody was cool as shit. Like, Vontes and him were boy.

Like, it was no, there was no friction at all. Richie and AB were boys. Like, it was, when we were all just together as boy, Like as teammates, there was no issues. But it's just, there was a bunch of shit going on and the outside. And it just, you look back, you're like, damn, what if? But you'll never know.

Right. It's crazy, bro. Like, we've had A-B. We kind of had A-B. Now we have Devante. Like, we've had some guys come in. It's just some cats. Crazy, bro.

Some boots. Dude, we appreciate you, man. This has been fucking phenomenal. This has been a phenomenal episode. Yes, I've had a blast. I'm glad you guys got to come to the crib. Meet the dogs. the whole Shabam

It was amazing Some wing stops Some pizza You know how to host too Yeah wing stop pizza The boys It's you know No it was a little intimidating pulling up

And seeing what you got Sitting outside You like that Yeah it was nice That was all like It seemed like it was perfectly Like manicured for that He's like all the boys

Are coming down Yeah He's like my Porsche Yeah that's perfect Like an episode of MTV Cribs Bro it really was Yeah you've earned it And you're wearing

the chain. Oh. Hey, look at the wrists. Both of them. A little something. A little something. How many are you going to do a full body suit tattoo? What are we talking about here?

I want to get my chest, my upper back, and my, like, I want to get my whole, like, torso down this off season. Hell yeah. My guy is moving to Vegas. He's from Boston. So, like, I usually only get to see him, like, once in off season, and we just knock shit out. But he's moving here in March, so we might get some action.

Yeah, get it right. Yeah. I'm trying to get like you. You guys. all type of shit. Yeah, we're covered up a little bit. I got work to do still. Yeah, for sure.

There's work out there for you. Yeah, my legs, bro. He's got a massive. I haven't even got back to him. You have to see his chest. He's got a fucking cool little, you got a buck. Yeah, stag.

I'm starting to get, I'm starting to have most of my torso done. I need that. There's a couple more pieces right here, but I have my whole back done. I need to get like a couple places. It's not important, but I'm going to get a lot of shit done.

Yeah. I'm with you. It's going to be a big off season. Big off to. I love. Well, thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Please like, subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Hit that merch.

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