Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Patriots Training Camp Tour Ft. Mike Vrabel, Drake Maye & More

Episode Date: January 31, 2026

In the summer, the boys went to New England for a Patriots training camp tour, and now, just months later, the Pats are in the Super Bowl. The guys sat down for a must-hear interview with Mike Vrabel, who had just taken over as the Patriots’ head coach. Vrabel opened up about his departure from the Titans, his brief stop in Cleveland, and what it was like stepping into the challenge of rebuilding New England’s culture. He also shared stories about Jameis Winston’s locker room energy and discussed his vision for the Patriots moving forward. Next, the guys caught up with quarterback Drake Maye, who was entering his second year in the league, as he reflected on his rookie season, his NFL Draft experience, and what it was like becoming the starter midway through the year. Drake also talked about how Coach Vrabel kept him on his toes and helped him grow as a young quarterback. Linebacker Robert Spillane joined the show to share his incredible journey from an NFL open tryout to earning a $33 million contract. Spillane reflected on his grind, his early years with the Titans, and the passion that kept him chasing his NFL dream. To wrap up the Patriots stop, Mack Hollins joined the boys to explain why he never wears shoes, how a random meeting with Australians shifted his mindset, and how close he came to walking away from the game. If you missed this one over the summer, it’s a must-listen. And if you already heard it, it’s definitely worth running back again. Enjoy, boys.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It was great. We moved on. And so we're here. We were early. I was on time. 920. Stacey 920. Stacey.

Thank you, Stacy. Welcome to Bustin with the boys. Again. Dude. Third time. It was a charm. Good to see you back on your feet. Thank you.

Yeah. I don't think I was ever off my feet. Well, Tennessee. Yeah. There's like a little Browns consultant. Consultant. We've all been fired. Yeah.

Shit canned. Yeah. Go ahead, Taylor. Yeah. Don't get scared now. Ask the hard stuff. Let's go. Back on my feet.

What took place in that conversation that led, because when the season ended, everyone's like, Braves is going to get extension. The rumor is that Braves is now going to go from an H.C. To actually have a little more of a GM role as well, maybe a little more power in the building. And then you walked into a meeting and you walked down. No, that wasn't a meeting. Those aren't meetings. You just get fired.

They just called you and fired you? No, you walk upstairs. Yeah, you just... How'd you handle it? I just said, give me an hour and I'll be out of here. I just want to talk to my staff. I feel like you wouldn't be a fun guy to fire. No, it was, I meant, again, everybody makes decisions.

And any question? No, I got the point. I get the drift. So there was never like, hey, what do you think could have happened differently? Obviously, the Asian-Brown trade happened? No. No. At that point, no, there was no, again, it was no discussion. I heard the message and I just said, give me an hour.

I'd like to talk to my staff and I'll box my stuff up. Just spin the cup, not. Don't I don't spit. How close were you to coaching in college? Because there were rumors throughout. Ohio State? Not very close. Not very close.

There are rumors about you potentially being the defensive coordinator at Nebraska. Remember when I texted? I was like, hey, what did I text? I didn't even text back or no. I forget what you said. No, not very close. No. And I love my time in Cleveland.

I mean, I love being on the offensive side of the ball. I loved just getting back to coaching. Help the O-line, you'd have loved it. I bet. You were in there? All the time. Telling guys to wall off on the backside of duo. Hey, just getting the way.

You're the backside. Inside out. Deuce, near foot it. Was there anything during that time with Cleveland? Backside hand in a sternum. Got to have. haven't there? A little leverage. Man reach, take them on the angle, you find them. Are you running the same offense in Cleveland?

There were some similarities. Yeah. Was there a time like just having that year in Cleveland to where you found or reignited some passion that you had that when you were at first aid coach, all the expectations, all the pressure? And then you kind of just go into a consulting role and kind of having more fun around Cleveland. I think that that's probably there's some truth to that. I think there's some reality to that. I think you realize that you miss it, you know, and that you,

want to do it, that there's nothing else that you want to do. Do you have, what do you feel like you learned from the first time as a head coach now coming into New England? Well, I mean, I think we learn stuff every day. I mean, it's just, there's going to be things that come up every day, situations, injuries, you know, I mean, we always talk about distractions are unavoidable. It's how we, we handle them. And so just staying flexible, staying consistent, you know, focusing on the guys that want to improve,

taking a message and those things that sometimes I let the you know the small majority affect all the other positive stuff yeah you'd always say you can't fuck up my friday but sometimes you all that sometimes they try yeah no I mean they tried Taylor tried and all everybody I think sometimes you still got a little more and unintentional I probably did but it was a good message it was a good tagline how did you do that development of you and James Winston running at the start of every practice? So they would go routes on air, right? And then they would go.

And I was like, I can, I mean, I'm, I could push these guys a little bit, just goofing around. I'd wait until the last guy thrown, take off running and just trying to have some fun down there in the Greenbrier down in West Virginia. Have you ever seen a guy? What a spirit that guy has. I was going to say, have you ever met a guy?

Never. You think it's like, you know, two, three days in, this is a schick, right? Yeah. Three, five, a week, two week, you're like, it's impossible to stay in character this long. This is actually really this guy is. He's the best method actor of all time. Yeah. I'm like, now this is just a stick.

And I'm like, nope, this is, I loved it. It's awesome. When did it feel like New England was going to be a real possibility for you? Well, I mean, just going through the process of interviewing and having teams reach out. He's doing the thing right now. The coach talk? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I think after the, after the season, like, that's when it heats up. You know, I mean, that's when people call it. How about this? How about this? So we get so because the coach, yeah, yeah, the interview process, everything else. Are you leaving a good interview? Are you leaving like after you have a good interview and you're just thinking, man, what if I become the head coach of the Patriots?

Like, hey, there's three banners up there. You reminded us all the time to where. No, I didn't. 14 years in league, three pro bowls. What do I? No, I sat in every single. chair in this meeting room you guys we juice it a little bit taylor listen just stay in front of your guy listen what do i know i've done it before no that is not true i think of myself you never block

the damn person but but what are you talking about hang on hang on i don't let's not that's not my stick he's getting me he's getting me right now i know i don't but legit legit like whether you're flying back or you're driving and you're just thinking what if i'm the head coach of the new england patriots yeah i mean i think that that goes through and i think that the timing was right and had opportunity to come back here probably prior as an assistant. I didn't feel like that was something that I wanted to do or that was what was best for me at that particular time. And then I think the timing was right.

Was the interview process a little bit different with the patients because you have the relationship with Kraft? Called them up, say, hey, what are you thinking? No, I mean, they were all about the same. I think of nine and a half a year. They were all about the same. Yeah. I mean, as far as actually I met with Chicago, met with the Jets,

and then met with the Patriots, and had talked to other teams, but didn't end up taking those interviews. Did any other teams offer you? Offer without an interview? No, like you end up talking to those couple other teams. Oh, no. I mean, I think that that, after meeting here,

I think that it happened pretty quick over the next couple days. When you go out to practice and it's like, you know, fans can come in, the Jen Pops watching, they're excited. Do you ever hear anything about the 2019 season when you Bill Belichick's Bill Belichick? No, I mean, I don't hear anything about that specifically from the fans. Yeah.

I meant people are excited. I'm glad that they're excited and they come out and it's a good environment. We had a bunch of fans in the stadium on Friday. That would be a bunch up there today. They heard you guys were coming. They did, didn't they? Yeah, they did.

I said on the tweet. I put it on a tweet. I hooked up with your boy, Frank. You ever interview Frank? the tank? Yeah, yeah. How smart is that guy? Frank's awesome.

He's an encyclopedia. I mean, it was like just... A couple of times you're walking, like, where, you know, where might this go? We just talk sports. Yeah. He is an encyclopedia. You know everything about all the, about the ages that I grew up in Browns back then. Every high trophy winner.

It's crazy. That was fun. Dude, I'm so fired. What else? Kids, everybody good? Everybody's great, man. Everybody's great. You done with, you done it too?

Or how many more we haven't? We're up in the air right now But we're open to a third one We're open to a third one How's the Lawan crew? Did you guys go to Canada? Went to Canada Just got back on the 21st

Wynn Willow turned 8 and 5 So Winn just watched Harry Potter For the first time yesterday Before we got in the plane Winnie What's that maker Set third grade? Yeah third

Well second grade Did the hold back Held her back She got the La Wan La Wan brains She starts reading a little bit I said I think to myself You know what

We're going to do you the favor That never happened for me We're going to hold you back a little bit. Good. Get you dialed in. Yeah, it's, it's tough because you risk, you go again, you get three girls. It's over. It's over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he's the guy that chased, he was obviously chasing the boy. He's got the two. He's like, we'll do one more. He's like, yeah, we'll have a little football player. Okay, or not. Yeah. Yeah. Can't just get it right like you did the first time and second time. And the second time. How the boys do? How's Tyler Carter?

Tyler's actually a BC helping out, O-line intern. Yeah. Yeah, you helped out in the spring and then they asked him to come back help for the season nice so he's grinding figuring out that figuring out the old uh the coaching grind yeah like just the the whole like you know when you play you you don't worry about you see the diagrams right you don't realize where those run diagrams came from or where the the defense yeah yeah right and so it's on vizio and he's like that the first time i said hey all the formations get plugged in all these cards on vizio he goes i was there for four hours i think i got three cards done. He's like, there's got to be a better way for this. And then he figured it out. And, you know, and then Carter's back in Nashville. How often does Tyler? Looking for a job.

What is he doing? Looking for a job. He graduated from Tennessee Tech, played baseball, and is looking for a job. Is he called the Pats? No, he's not coming. He's not leaving Nashville. He's not leaving. He's staying there. You know he ain't trying to get his dad. No, he loves Nashville. He'll be up here for the games, but he just loved it. him like he went for a summer and was like hanging out in the equipment. He would, yeah, but he was awesome. He passed chasing jocks around, everything else and laundry. Is Tyler, does he pick your brain a lot for all the coaches or stuff?

You know, he was asking about coverages. As an offensive lineman, I think as a young one, you don't really worry too much about coverage. And now that he's drawing cards, he just wants to know, you know, coverages and rotation and whether the weak safety's down or the weak safety's pressuring, is he outside the end? You know, all the things that we would talk about. I think he's just understanding the game. I think he's excited about helping a young players.

He was a developmental player. And so he's like, I get to work with the threes. There's some young guys that I think have potential. So I think that there's some excitement there from helping those guys. Does he want to coach with you one day? I don't know about that. I mean, I just, I think he wants to see if he wants to coach and if he's willing to go on this journey.

What was the conversation like with him? Because before we were going, I was trying to catch up on what he was up to. And I just saw that. July 30th, he was on injury reserve in 2024. And assumed like, okay, he's out. So he, and Tyler just decided that he didn't want to do to practice squad again. That had been his, you know, his decision. And again, I, that was his path.

And I think he realized that he, you know, missed football, love football, wanted to be around it and finished his degree. And in the process of doing that helped out in the spring. And then, you know, they asked him to come back for the season. Was there any type of conversation between you and him where you're like, yeah, I know you don't want to do the practice squad again. There was. There was like a coach and a dad conversation.

Gotta wear different hats. I'm sure that was a tough for you to go back and forth. Well, it wasn't, I think a while ago it had. I mean, I told you, there was some things that I regretted, you know, growing up. When they were growing up, there was things that I regretted the way that I handled it and was, you know, borderline embarrassed with things that, you know, just not being able to differentiate the coach and the, being demanding and then dad.

And so by the grace of God, got past that and had another opportunity. And so it was a good conversation. It was, hey, here's what I would say to you from a coaching perspective. Here's what I would say to you as a dad. And so he made his decision and I think he's really happy about it

and, you know, see where this goes. This coaching thing goes for him. Yeah, like Tyler, dude. Oh, he don't, yeah, he's harmless. The other one. It looks hard. The other one is out of his mind. He's out of his mind.

He's going to catch fire here. Plenty of ink and they're, you know, I mean, they love the ink guy. I mean, they could thank Taylor for hooking him up. Joey, right? Joe, he was in town this past week. That is right. Anytime Joey's in town, I feel like Carter's over at the house. So at first it was, I think you were like, hey, Carter wants to get some make.

You got a guy. He comes in, right? So we kind of got them hooked up. And then eventually it became, Joey texted me and be like, hey, I'm coming into Nashville for a weekend. I'm like, oh, what are you doing here? I think Tyler had him come to Atlanta, too, for a couple guys. or something like that. Joey's just out there doing mercenary work for other guys.

Ripping it up. I got a question for you. Come on. You are, you're big on culture and painting a clear vision, whether it's a weekly game plan or whether you're coming in for the first time as a head coach and kind of painting how the organization is going to be.

What is the best advice you've received on building culture, whether you've been a fly on the wall witnessing something or you've kind of learned in conversation with a former coach? Here's what I've learned. I've learned that we can have different personalities. We can't have different mentalities. And sometimes I've, what's that, buddy? That's a bar.

I just sometimes get caught up that we don't, that people may be different than me. I think I'd struggle with that early on. And now I've realized that if the mentality is the same, how they maybe act off the field or what their personality is or they may not be, you know, I would say that we all kind of have this similar personality, right? pretty close. But there's a lot of people and players that are successful that don't, and I have to be okay with that if ultimately their mentality is about the culture that we want to have here. And I think that's what I've learned.

When you say that's what you've learned, is that growing pains as a head coach, or is that more earlier in your assistant coaching? No, I mean, I think as a head coach, right, whether it's, you know, just players that have different personalities but still got their job done and did it the way that we asked them to do it. You have to be okay with, you know, that kind of what their vibe is, just walking around. Let them, they got to be them. You excited to have Cardi B a couple games this year? I don't know. I thought that. I don't know. I haven't seen her yet. I haven't. Well, I'm sure we'll double date. I'm sure we'll double date. You, Jen, Cardi's. Sorry, yeah. Friday.

We'll see. I don't know. There's a level of excitement when you heard one of your players is dating a a famous lady like oh we have our own taylor swift no yeah i guess so i mean i don't you know i don't you see the revenue from this past year 16 billion extra in revenue yeah and i started trending upwards in kansas city you know i don't know i mean i'll see that i mean i try to meet everybody's family that comes and a lot of people come i don't if she's here i'll say hi i don't see how that goes fair enough you um there was a big we talk about this a lot in the podcast is 2018 Vrabs was a lot different than 2020 Vrabs. What Vrable are you or is,

are the New England Patriots players getting? Or like, because you go up into a place that has those banners on the wall. Probably somewhere between those two. Yeah. You know, I think you just learn. And again,

you're just trying to set things and make sure that, again, there's an individual role that the player's trying to create. And then there's the idea of building a team. and I have to try to combine those two, right? Do you evaluate that on culture, though? Like, if you walked in the Titans facility, the culture was very, like, all over the place, very sporadic.

We didn't really have an identity of who we were. When you walked into here, was there, like, did you get the same sense of, like, culture? Yeah, I mean, again, I needed to, I felt like it was important to make sure that all those systems and the programs and everybody around the players was sound, right? That that was, there was a structure there,

that the support systems, was sound and cleaned up. And then we focused on the players, you know, because the players aren't around in February, everybody's gone. So it's like operations and video and equipment and training and player engagement, all these things that were set up that I wanted the players when they came back, that they were, you know, they were, they liked what they saw. They believed in the program that we were building.

And then now we're focused on the football side of it. When you're going and you get the call and you're like, I'm going to be the head coach of the New England Patriots. Were you essentially like Ron Bergeny getting the band back together when you went and got Stretch and frank and all the boys popping up, rolled over. Yeah. Rolling over.

Yeah. I mean, and I was, you know, some of those guys you can get. Some of them you can't. Some guys are under contract. But, again, those people are important to me. And I hope to the players.

You know, they were part of our success. and certainly, you know, stretches. He already's had a feature article in the Boston Globe. I heard. Yes. There's another one coming down the pipe, I heard. Almost stretch. He's getting big, huh?

He's starting to feel himself a little bit in that office right next to years. He's looking for a window. He's getting a window. We're building a new building. You got a window next door. That article came out. Those are his demands. But no, he's, you know, how important stretch is.

It's the best. You know, Frank and Ryan and, All the assistant coaches we were able to get Big T. Hoss? I think Hoss does a fantastic job. The O-Line Room. We've got three good coaches in there. So just trying to give the players everything that they need.

And, you know, we're big on connection. And we think that's important. And hopefully we can continue to do that. How about Bob Spillane? Bobby. Getting another stint with Bob Spillane. Him being undrafted and not making the titles at first. I told him the other day.

I was like, I said, I have to knock the shit out of day. Derek. I said, if you, you stop hitting. He's like, what do you tell? He gets serious. You know, remember when he smoked Derek on the goal line? And so then I was like, actually, he smoked Derek. I said, you haven't hit anybody since then. He's like, what do you know? I was like, dude, I said, you're too easy, man. Just relax. I was just calm down. He's like, you try to get my blood pressure up all the time. Yeah. No, but that's been awesome to see. He signed what, like a $33 million deal. Yeah, I mean, everybody's got their own journey to the

National Football League. I know you've used that in the meetings. Yeah, we don't care how you got here. All we care about is what you do when you're here. I cut your ass back in 2018. Bobby, under, he was a rookie mini-camp tryout. Yeah, crazy.

And those are like, you're doing those as like favors. Like, get the guy a hat and a t-shirt and send them on his way and now here he is. Just came in doing his thing. I know. He's signing a contract. Got Harold. Who was you? You got Jack, Dr. Gibbons?

Dr. Gibby. Yeah. Which crazy now. We have a Gibson and a Gibbons. We have Antonio Gibson. So it's Gibby and Dr. Gibby. Jack's got the doctor. You got every answer in the book that guy.

You, every year around this time, you pop up a film, the shit that gets you beat film from the year prior. What are like three or four key plays you saw in last season that you pull up in the screen and you're like, guys, this is the shit that gets you beat? Not being able to take advantage of bad football, right? two minute execution those are big ones guys throwing the ball to the official you know celebrating after a gain as the clocks ticking and you're 30 yards from field goal range ball security right all those

things i mean it's the same stuff yeah it's the same it's the same it's same stuff just try to build an identity around our effort in a way that we finish you know i think taylor remember it's hard to finish when you're looking back for the ball or you're directing traffic and all those things we talk about. Absolutely. But taking care of football, right? Being able to take care of football,

I still think fundamentals are important. I think techniques important. Offensive lines, a technical position. You know, and then, again, whether it's don't do dumb shit to hurt the team or a softer or gentler version is making great decisions on and off the field, I don't know.

We had some opportunities to have a scrimmage on Friday. Guys got excited, you know, taunting, free 15 yards, pointing in somebody's face, you know, throwing the guns up, all that stuff, just things that, you know, it would just, it's hard to be that good for all that stuff to not matter. That stuff has to matter. And we'll get there. I'm confident that we will. There's always some good Friday tape.

Yeah, we're not there yet. We're so far from Friday tape just because, you know, we're at the ground floor. Yeah. You know, we'll break out the first one. We did have a good meeting. We split the teams up. We had a draft. And we put together like a draft reveal, right, for this scrimmage on Friday night.

We had like a draft reveal. So we split the coaches up, had two separate head coaches. They drafted. Stretch and I were like the commissioners of the draft. And then they had, we put all these funny. pictures of these guys from high school and all this other stuff and i was like johnny carson going through like on the reveal and they had the draft music and i mean the guys had fun like something remember when you didn't know if i was like joking or not joking so i would be like you can laugh

you it's like we're we're still at that stage we're still there where i'm like that if it's funny laugh and i mean i kind of go back and forth and they're not sure when i go to to the joke so i it loose the other day. A lot of laughs and it was it was yeah well because you'll be caught in the middle of a you're breaking down film and team meetings and you're roasting and it's like you know you're like holding in your laughter because like this is a serious moment then when you throw a joke it's like yeah they're yeah right hey where we at are we allowed to do this now is it because you will you do like to flip on a dime you'll sit there and you head on a swim right right you'd be like Taylor what what are we doing here we pay you how much I'm like this is

awful you're terrible blah blah and everyone i didn't say you're awful or terrible that's i'm paraphrasing and you'll be like saying all these things you'll be like doing your podcast with your boy will my right will and i don't know i think that is i don't like catch a stray here yeah what are we what are we doing so you get it's it's it's a process it's a process yeah how many show are you guys traveling a lot oh yeah yeah where were you before this so we we had some time off we we we knocked out tight in you at the last week of june yeah and so then I went to Canada. You guys were basically the ball boys for that thing, weren't you?

I saw you, like, run around. Yeah. Whatever they needed, water. I know. No job too big, no job too small. Yeah. What's all? I mean, it just looked like, I mean, every clip you guys were there, like with water,

towels, it was hot. We're there to serve, man. I looked like it. You were serving. We're giving back to the youth. Ball washing. You said Taylor Soodd is going to be there. Yeah, we can hang out.

We can hang out for sure. We can open. There's a car see? Sure, we'll go. Our cameras are there? Okay, good. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Can we bring our guys? Yeah. And then what other teams? You've been to any other teams? This is the first time. You're our first one.

Then we got Philly. This is it. Yeah. Virgin. territory. Here we are. He was always. Once you got hired, it was circled. We got to get out the new It's funny. Like, I don't hear anything like you guys back channel. Like all you have to do is just text Daddy. I'll text you back whether you guys can come. That's the problem. We ain't trying to get these jokes. But we met Victoria out at the draft. We, we texted or we met Victoria out at the draft. She was

awesome. Veronica. Oh, Veronica. I'm so sorry. That was. Hey, it's all. Hey, it's all. Hey, you're going to muscle through that. But we met them at the draft and they were really excited. They were obviously. seem like you may have been talking about seeing some nice things so we were like well i did i showed that clip where we're will you showed them the the clip that i sent about the cause fumble on the goal line oh yeah i told them about i didn't run a meeting and show them i wanted to but you showed the team no i didn't show the team no you shown any man reaches yeah yeah man reaches from like i don't know like 1890 we had a pods drill in there yeah oh oh you know what it showed the fit drill and

and you got overextended and you got jerked. Remember the fit drill, the rock set? Can I be honest with you now that we're on the other side? Yeah. I think that's a dumb drill. I don't. I think the past is good, right? Because again, if you're staying level, like, I'm never in this position.

I didn't mean to stay level. No, no, I'm talking about not on the cutoff. Not on the cutoff. No, no, no. On like just the rock set, right? Where we snap out. Also, also a dumb drill. Well, again, because you got overextended and then got jerked.

It wasn't a dumb drill. It was a bad technique. Because if you and I are both going at each other, we're going and we're fitting and then we're setting. But they already know what's happening. And they know as soon as I said it's right. But I didn't say get overextended and get your shoulders out over. There's a technique involved. All I'm saying, all it is is to recreate hands inside.

The jerk and the transition. And then you want my, you want my base to be a little bit more of a. Yeah, you were kind of out over your skis. But you did show, did you show any of man reaches to work. Yeah, I did. I mean, I think we showed the pot. You could do this. You did.

Yeah. Couple pools out on the corner. Couple toss crows. I was like his highlights. His highlights were like talking shit to a cornerback. That was 35 years old. Run it again. Teller we can only run so many toss cracks again.

I don't know how you get on the corner. Sorry. I don't know how you get on the corner. Truck. We can only get you on the table so many times. You can have to block the end a couple times. No, no, no. Let's not do that.

Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Yeah. Oh, I loved it. Perimeter playing, man. It was just fun to kind of be out there. Feeling like an athlete for a little bit. It was nice. What have you seen from? Remember the Tyambrillo four-eye cut off? I was like, this is how we're supposed to do it. I should everybody.

Tysabillo, actually great on the four-eye cuts. I know. Great on the four-eyes. So we've shown some of that. We showed you on the backside. Thank. Getting vertical. You know. Cincinnati, stretch cut behind you. All right, good. Yeah. I just don't know. I just don't call you and tell you every time. You just hope you made enough of an impression.

We showed Will Sliced in the 7. That was, you talking about No. Clinic tape. You're talking about O.D. He didn't finish. He's got to catch the ball. Can you explain Slicing the 7 real quick for the viewers that are sitting here?

Just transitioning out. We were mugged up. We were down to the line of scrimmage. And they had, you know, it was double near a gun or a weak side B. Week B. And running back went flat. So you just know Eertz is about to run a seven route. We're an O.T.

We're trying to make, we're trying to win this game. Yeah. Third down. Yeah. And around the sticks, once I saw the flat route, I'm like, oh, I'm going to slice up under. So I'm inside. I'm trying to go through the low hip to slice underneath the tight in. Slice it.

Ball hits me in the hands. I drop it. However, third down, we're off the field. We go down. Corey Davis catches a touchdown. We all celebrate in the corner. For the boys. Yeah.

For the boys. That was crazy. Yeah. What you need to do, Mitch, on that clip is you need to have it on Mike's face as he's talking. Because you could just see the smile. Will's explaining the entire situation. proud, very proud. But we had to, you've heard a story of his recruiting trip, right?

We had breakfast at the hotel and then we basically did the deal. I was thinking about, you know, we basically negotiated that contract over breakfast, me and you. You used to have the same agent, right? Yeah, but it just, it wasn't a very big contract. Hey, stay strong. That was the most I had in my career, though. Yeah. Yeah.

Like so over. Yeah. And that was bag season. You thought you were throwing out nickels. He was picking up dollars. But then they drafted for Sean. in the first round. I'm sitting at a bar in Germantown.

I'm like, fuck me. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what time it is. Going back to the draft. Yep. And I'm sure I'll get a very... Probably.

Yeah, I'll get the answer we're probably all expecting to get when the AJ Brown trade happened. Yeah. And you see the video, you see you stand up. No, I mean, listen, that is... But also two days before that,

you're like, as long as I'm the head coach of this team, AJ Brown will be a wide receiver. Well, I didn't want to, obviously, nobody wanted to have him walk out of there. You know what I mean?

the contractual terms weren't going to, you know, it just, it didn't work out. And it's disappointing. The thing that I am most proud of is just still the relationship with AJ and players that I've coached, whether it be you guys or other players that, you know, continue to text or check in on or just think about when they're in the summer or what they're doing or their families or you see that they're having kids. Like I think that's important and I'm glad that that's still something that that that happens right that there's still some sort of relationship after you know after coaching them allegedly there's some footage out there of um will campbell you getting put on your back from all will campbell are there what happened i'm

almost 50 i'll be 50 in i don't know 12 days 10 days did you did you Do you expect that though? No, I just, you know what I mean? It was a four eye, right? I was going into four eye and it was the backside cutoff and he got going and I caught my foot. I didn't get my second step in the ground. Like, what am I going to do?

I'll back up. Like, we all get knocked down. He probably loved it too. Did you mean, you wasn't like a film? I didn't said that I loved it. I just was like, that was a good rap, but I just, you know. Give him a pat. Yeah, I mean, you get back on the line.

Let's go again. I mean, I got to get one back. You know, you went extra hard on that next one. Oh, yeah. Extra. You think you get the ball. three that next time. We got to shade it in a little bit.

Pad back. Yeah. It's not like, you know, I was fine. I popped back up. Everybody else thought, you know what I mean? I thought it was a bigger deal than I did. You're seeing a lesser man would have stayed down. I mean.

He'd have never done that to me. Yeah, you're right. I mean, it was a good, it was a good block. He got into it, got the backhand, then the sternum, and I didn't get my second step on the ground and I'm ass over tea cattle. Yeah, it was like six, seven yards. It was awesome to see. We need that clip.

Have you seen it? He showed it to us, but... Will showed you a clip? Hold on. Somebody did. Somebody did. You're snitching, he showed you the clip. No, no, we haven't seen anything.

He has it on his phone? We haven't seen anything. JP showed me the clip. J.P. He was probably all gassed up. I'll get him back. Don't worry. That's what I'm afraid of.

Hey, he was... Will. He was gasped. He was pumped. He was pumped. He was juiced up. He said, hey, boys, once I get done with this little two-minute drill, I'm sorry, I'm laying it all out there Willie. He's like, once I get

down, I gotta show you guys a clip that I think you'll enjoy. Yeah, I bet. And he hit me over there. I was like, I know, he started to walk out and we're like, hey, you said you had a clip for us. It's like, oh, yeah. I'm like, I don't come over. Oh, Jules. How are you? Trying to get it out, man. Come in. They laid it on the line

for me. I got to go on the show. You got to come on the show. Yeah. What's up? I'm going to see him. Let's see him. Let's go. see you me have fun i just wanted to bust follow or no i'm nasty okay i'm just okay we don't want to oh okay we we only have it for i think we stacey's got the time limit it's time how about so we have uh veronica veronica come on sorry come on i got i got local media um bud light you know how

everybody anybody would do anything for a bud light an ice cold bud light what would coach vrabel no free shout outs what would coach brable do anything for. Can't say family. Can't say family. I mean, obviously another banner up there. Like, that's... What would you do for that banner? We've discussed this already. I know. Yeah, but... But what else? What else would I do? Yeah, for the banner. No, I'm going to work every day. I'm at cutting off any more appendages, you know what I mean? Like, that's why we're doing this, you know, other than to provide for our families, it's to, to win championships. Like, you guys know this spiel? We've been through this. We guys are trained.

You guys are trained rats. Would you really cut it on? He already said on the second one he's, we asked what we're done. Well, yeah, because we went to the AFC championship. Stacey said that's it. Boys, I want an honest evaluation of practice. What? I got to go. I got to work. Hey, can I tell you something? I want an honest evaluation of practice. Obviously, you, and if I'm missing anything, let me know. Let you know. Obviously, you got to create the evidence and build the legacy and everything else, but I'm legitimately so juiced that you were the head coach of the Patriots just because you're a hell of a player at Ohio State. You were a hellful player in the league with the three banners and the three Super Bowls.

And I hope, I hope, hang on, hang on. This one's for Jen too. I hope you take time to just have perspective of how fucking cool it is. Well, I appreciate that. I will try to stop and smell the roses along the way. I hope you guys come back for a game. Promise? Yes.

On sideline. Proud of you. Can I get a headset? I'll stay out of the way. have stretches. Okay. Love you. I love you, too.

Drake May. Welcome the bus with the boy. Oh, Jesus. Come home. Start it again. Start again. You know what? Keep it worked out.

You set him up. You set it up. You set it up. Do you slap his leg? What's going on? How you doing? Hanging in there. Yeah?

All dude, we're doing great. Give me Josh Allen vibes already off the top. I'll be honest with you. You got a nice little thing personality. He's a heck of a player. He's a heck of a player. Give me the team key. when you're talking to the media?

Talking to the media? Yeah, Pervrable. Team Keys. Yeah. Speak for myself. Yep. No talking about injuries. That's correct.

No talking about expectations. Right? No talking about scheme. Don't talk about scheme. Is there another one? You're on it. You seem like there was one more. I do feel like that was all of them.

No comparisons. It's the same. It's kind of expectation of comparisons. Yeah. Yeah. No comparisons. Same type thing. Same as when you all played?

What's that? Same one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you see yourself? a lot in Josh Allen. Do you guys think you're very similar football players? Both mobile, tall, handsome, white quarterbacks? You know, he's the MVP. I think the comparisons are, I got a lot of work to do, you know,

with kind of even giving the same, you know, stratosphere or atmosphere as Josh. So luckily he's in the division, so we got some good matchups. I'm looking forward to, but really comparisons. I'm just trying to be myself. And hey, at the end of the day, if some people think that, That's a lot of respect for him, but I've got a lot of work to do for that. Let's pivot real quick on the sports, though. I apologize for interrupting you, Will. You and Josh Allen one-on-one pickup basketball who's winning that game. I take myself as a hooping.

And hoops for sure. Do you think Josh Allen, the night before the draft, was in a YMCA playing pickup basketball? Pat, did Pat tell you that? We have our sources. Timeout, time out. What are we talking about? So Drake, the day it was in Detroit, correct? the day before he gets drafted

first round pick by the New England Patriots, he's at an indoor gym at a YMCA playing pickup basketball with a bunch of Jen Pop. Just trying to get working. What's your stats? What was your numbers? My brothers were in there, so we had some good competition, but just get the nerves and you're going, you know.

You and the brothers you get picked. I don't know if we'll kind of being at the draft, you know, being out. You're not sure. You get nervous. You get nervous. Whether you're there where the draft's happening or you're sitting at home, it doesn't matter. Yeah. I mean, I was nervous. I have nerds for three days. Let me ask you something.

Let me ask you something. Was there a piece of you ever throughout, like, when you're going to the draft process of day one hit, you're like, what if, though? 100%. I want to say Bill Belchick got some projected guy. He was like in the lower rounds and he drafted him in the second round. And on the first night, the Chargers called me being like, I kind of forget what the hell the conversation went, but I'm like, maybe I'm a day two guy. No shit. Then they drafted him in Taito.

Damn. He's a great player. I played longer, but he's a great player. Yeah, he had to build, though. Yeah, he had to build on him. Stirty. Were you surprised at the Patriots drafted you? I think I was just pumped.

You know, kind of the feelings. You just want to get drafted somewhere. So I was really just pumped. I think I knew there's a chance, possibly here. What a great legacy of this place has been. And hopefully we're trying to get back to that. What's the first several months been like with Coach Rabel? Yeah, it's been awesome.

I mean, y'all know. It's hostile now. Oh, we know. It's awesome. It's hostile now. You got to bring it and leave your egos at the door. I'm sure y'all, I'm sure you check y'all a few times with personalities of y'all too. But I think, you know, we watch old film with Big Taylor was in there watching a pod drill.

We're watching you over there. How was he doing? How did I do? How did it in the pod? I don't think you may got hurt or something. Who knows? Oh, damn! You know, and when Brave was answering the question talking about how he had to drill up of you and pos and you got over leverage, I'm thinking to myself, you know,

Vrave was just loving the fact that he could kind of just bodybag you in front of some other and the fact that it's like that's not for anybody else like I know five people on the football team that was for Braves and stretch yeah and Haas yeah kind of laugh be like look at that idiot right there no but I saw the first pitch dude come on oh yeah you kind of looked like good form like a little bit of Randy Johnson and then just let it go a little too early it was kind of yeah I'd bring my show you know redemption's coming really I don't know if we can say the date yet but it is this month I'll be catching redemption where was that What good game was that at?

The redemption? No, the game that you just threw. Oh, that was at in St. Louis. St. Louis. And buddy, I'll tell you this. How old a nerve? Free nerves? No.

I was like, I'm about to rip this thing. I'm about to throw this thing high 60s. Yeah. Yeah? Which was good for me. And I walked out there, buddy was standing behind the mountain. I go, just say, no, I'm going to rip this thing. He was like, didn't even say a word.

And then that happened. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm still in disbelief. And I think I'm, like, kind of getting the yips now, too. Like, I go play catch. or like, I'll put a couple in Will's chest and then there'll be one, oh, buddy, I practice. I make Will every day.

Really? I get to the shop. We do work. And then I'm like, come play catch with me. That's really bad. So we'll see. We'll see. Have you thrown at first piece before?

No, I thought about throwing a curbed ball or something one time. You've thrown at a first pitch? Yeah, I haven't thrown one. But if I did, I'd throw a curveball or something. You're a baseball guy growing up? Yeah, baseball guy. You have a whole family of them. We got a bunch.

I saw one story where it was like, what was it, people magazine where your mom would make like 36 eggs for you? you guys would just be a war we got some big dudes big fellows rolling around so a bunch of hooligans who's the most athletic in your family you think oh probably mom i'm speaking from my mom but you know dad's punching air right now my dad's he's old and fat now so you give it to yourself over the other brothers yeah yeah they'd say the same they would yeah they know what's up or they just pounding the steering wheel right now as they'll listen no no my brother's definitely going to tune in my brother's a big fan of the bus and with the boys let's go patch are playing the italians i think what's

Collins there? It was Pat Collins there? Yeah, he was there. We came down just to go meet his brother, just like because he was that big of a fan of us. And I was like, yeah, I'll go down there for sure, absolutely. And we met that night that night before at the Peg Lake Porker. Yeah. I got Troy Nunes.

Exactly. Yeah. Bring it back to Vrabs. I need a pet peeve. What pisses you off about Mike Brable? Or how about this? Instead of what pisses you off about Coach Vrabel, what would piss Coach Vrabel off about you? Or what would be a pet peeve of Rayble off about you?

that he has a view? Not celebrating after we score. That did go viral, didn't it? Yeah, he just, which I agree. I mean, it's hard to get in the end zone. Yeah. I think you saw the clip. We didn't score enough of them last year.

So just getting excited. I think there's so much mental game going on in the game, you know, within practice playing QB. So just getting excited when you do something good. That's tough, you know. I think I need to do a better job of that. Well, it goes through your brain when you score it. It's hard to simulate, you know, in practice when it's actually a real touchdown

the game, you know, it's easier to run down there with the boys. but you know the old lines got to run down there like oh i got run 15 yards back yeah it's tough for those guys cruising over there exactly celebrating after touchdowns yeah the i saw you throw a few touchdowns today in the red zone try to and i didn't see you run into the end zone and celebrate yeah so is that a coachability thing or is that just hey we're in this is not a team period no i think yeah it was one-on-one seven it was one-on-one seven-on-s i think still get some excitement for sure what were the things that y'all did back in the day he got mad at oh shit got mad at with me.

Yeah. Everything. Probably just being on social media. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'd bring up posts every now and then. He put up in the team meeting.

Yeah. There was one time where it was like, Darren Bates was injured. And so he was sitting out of walkthrough. And in my brain, he was just getting one over. I'm like, oh, you're just wanting to chill.

Like, you ain't in that bad of shape. So I bought this neck brace on Amazon. And then I, like, took a video because he had like the yellow jersey on. I'm telling him, Like, hey, throw this on, throw this on. I'm, where the neck brace and we're kind of busting his balls in the locker room, and I'm videoing it. I put it up on social, and he texted me later that night.

And he's like, you think this was smart? And, dude, fear just filled the entire part of my body. As I'm sitting there looking on how I should respond back to Vrabble, kind of like, is he kind of messing with me? Should I, like, send a joke back? Because we all know he's playing, like, it's all good. And he put it up in the team meeting the next day, and my asshole was tight. My asshole was tight. You walk in that team meeting room.

it's really the first one when you come back for OTAs because everyone's kind of done their thing maybe you post something in January he knows John Stryker knows and he will show Mike Ravel Oh, Stretch is on it, bro. He's on it, he is on it, dude. He has dialed in. I think he's the op.

I don't think you understand how much of a win it is for you guys to have Stretch on this team just yet. You guys will realize how big of a win it is to have, but he's definitely the op. I had a time Bill O'Brien got fired from Houston and I was commenting on how I was like fired up about him getting fired. And Braves, like, called me and chewed me out for, like, five minutes about how disrespectful

that is. And I don't know Bill and all this stuff. And that was walking in the next day was very difficult. It was scary. But I saw him the next day. He, like, pat me on the ass and walking down the hallway. So he's kind of always doing this. And he just don't really know what to do.

He bullies you until he knows you're broken a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And kind of all stepping on egg, walking on eggshells. And then that's when he buddies you up. And he's like, why aren't you laughing? It's a joke. because it's like, Christ, well, he was sitting here with us

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what kind of day are we having? That's how Brave likes it, man. I saw the clip of you, y'all about to fight in the bus. You like your chances, do you think? Against Brave? Yeah.

I don't know. I got too much respect to think that I could take him. I saw it kind of started off as a friendly gesture. Yeah, yeah, and then it got a little,

he's got a little real. And it's kind of like he's just got the power dynamic of father's son, you know what I mean? It's like, hey, Will, do you think you can who whoop your old man? It's like,

folks up it's kind of like he's a long oh he's a specimen hands to scratch his knees a little bit you're saying you're saying you're saying braves is your daddy right now i'm saying he's got that's the type of respect that i have for him as a human being as a father yeah yeah like i see him as like a father figure yeah yeah we so you know we swap text in the office season he checks on the family and stuff he's like a mentor of mine i love that so i just appreciate him yeah you know what i mean so when he walks up like you know hey don't get sensitive on me braves like how would you say y'all relationship is different with braves between between two of you.

He likes Will a lot more than me. Yeah. He, like, I think he definitely views me as like, he coached me really hard when he got there and I was like, he'll lighten up eventually and it never really happened. And then I like got cut eventually and it's kind of just not stopped. Yeah. Will was like, they brought Will in. He was doing the core four.

He was like light and did the Brable thing and that went over really well. And then once Will was out of the building, Brable was like, that's my guy. Yeah. And I'm Will's buddy. But that Will is a brave's friend. Does that make sense? Taylor was an asset that they needed to produce at the highest level at all times.

So when he'd get injured, I'm sure that kind of plays into the psyche of what his view was of Taylor. Like, I'm an asset, but I'm more of an asset like one of those... What was a jester? You know? First off, gestures...

The people that would entertain the king. What's the animal that you keep? and they just like give you good vibes. They're there for you. Golden Retriever. No. Support. Emotional sport animal.

Yeah. Yeah. Like my assent ability was like being the support animal in the locker room. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll, you know, just will, it was a locker room guy. So Raves would always be like, we're going to hold our high, or our best players to the highest standard or whatever. That's like his phrase.

He always says. And he would call me in his office. Hey, what's up, Braves? I'm trying to be buddies. Yeah. Always trying to be buddies. No. He'd be like, come in here real quick.

He'd pull up some film. we just sit in silence for a little bit while I play some couple plays of me like not doing well he goes we hold our best players the to the highest standard correct yes sir is that the highest standard no all right I need you to play better next week yeah okay and there'll be games too I like walk away from games I'm like bro I that was a game yeah I kind of have myself a little yeah I think like four or five plays and I really put that guy in the dirt I was good in protection blah blah I felt good about it and as I'm like truly feeling good about myself I'm getting a text from braves be like, need you to be better next week.

And it was always that. Will, I would sit over and watch Will and Braves be like, how the fuck do I get to that? I just had to get a couple tackles on special teams. Yeah. Slice of seven. Once a game or something like that. Because when he sat here, I was like, hey man,

you're showing some man reaches? He's like, I showed a pod's drill. Should you get overextension on a play action. There's some good clips. Just killing me, man. But that's kind of the difference in dynamic. But this is about this podcast. Yeah, yeah.

You're doing very well. and asking questions about us. Now we're getting the five fingers. Yeah, I'll spend more time with them than I have. Take us through the process last year being thrown into the fire. Because on the outside, it seemed like when you got drafted, you were going to be somebody who was kind of like

maybe groomed and on the sideline throughout the season. Then the season was going the way it was. You had Coach Mayo. He was in his first year. Then you kind of get thrusted and thrown into the fire. Was that something that you expected? Or what was the learning curve as that decision was made? No, I think, you know, we had the Texans here at home.

So it was a good in front of home crowd. You get thrown into the fire. I think it's something that you're like, man, let's see what I got. I think it's, you go out there and you see DeNeil Hunter, Will Anderson, you know, when you go out there in your first drive, and you're like, all right, this is the NFL, you know what I'm saying?

So, specimens, yeah, especially Hunter, dude. Yeah, good guy. He looks like a robot. So I think, you know, from there, I think just ultimate confidence. I think that's what I think you kind of appreciate yourself. You do all that practice, do all this training camp, go out there and just, a lot of bullets, see what you see what you're what you got. And I think, you know, the biggest thing is these guys, and we still played hard.

You know, I think we were in some close games and, you know, season didn't go the way we wanted, but these guys fought hard. I think especially those guys up front, they fought for me hard. And, you know, the least like I do was get back and go out there and compete and, you know, leave it all out there. So that's my approach to it. And it's not going to change. Was there ever a moment of discouragement during your rookie year? Like, as you guys are out there and you're performing, whether up to your standard or not, you guys are losing close games? Once you really hit, I think kind of the, you know, 10 losses in the season, you know, it's tough. You got there and you're out there playing.

You probably know in the back of your mind you're not going to make the playoffs. You're out there playing a, you know, a gruesome game and you're out there just battling. And I think that's really what you kind of find in these guys. Like, who can I really go to war with? And I think that's what, you know, I was trying to approach it myself. Like, these guys are going to see me. Am I still competing hard and, you know, scrambling around and trying to make plays? are just going to throw it in the dirt and keep back up and punt.

So I think that's kind of what I kind of used last year as. You obviously want to win more games this year, and that's our plan. So I think everybody feels good now. So it's going into week one to see when the real bullets go. Times me remember that rookie wall when you're sitting there in the middle of November, possibly walking into December. You know you're out of the playoffs. Like you say you're 10 losses, you're probably not going to pick the playoffs.

You will not make the playoffs with 10 losses. And you see these guys, you know, know, you're 21 years old, you got these guys that are in their 30s, they kind of know. So you see guys kind of talking about Cabo San Lucas all of a sudden. I'm going to go over here. What are we doing for vacation? Like, what was that like from you from just going from college to NFL? No doubt.

It's different. I think even the first thing I know is these guys got families. You know, it's not the locker room in college where you're hanging out and going back to someone's place and, you know, watching football. Yeah. I think stuff like that. It's more like your families and you leave here. And like you said, that rookie wall kind of after, you know, it was just, you know,

after the bowl season, you go straight to training and then you go straight to the draft prep. So it's a long year, long years of these rookies. That's what I'm telling. These guys in our team, you know, Will Campbell and those guys, it's a long year. And I think, you know, from there, you give up here to Boston there, been up here in the north. And you get out of meetings at 5 o'clock. And next thing you know, it's dark outside and it's 15 degrees. I think that's a whole different element of the morbidness up here of the winners. So I think that's really right around your teammates.

And, you know, when you are in the building, try to make it as, you know, enjoyable as you can. I think definitely you see guys. Like you said, not checking out, but knowing kind of what's in the end and kind of the light, the end of the tunnel is not, you know, looking, you know, too bright. I think you can see that in the NFL, which is, you know, credit them. You guys want to, you know, have longevity in the years and, you know, credit their bodies. And, you know, you can see injuries is a big part of the game. So there's two sides to it, but hopefully not in that situation.

Yeah. When you got like your routine in your first year and you hit the wall and everything like that, what are some changes you're making for yourself and your daily? routine during the football season. Yeah, I think that's a great question. You know, I think Jacoby Resett was there's someone great for me to learn from, you know, a veteran in this league played in a bunch of different offenses. He's the man, you know, just hanging out outside.

We used to go to dinner. I think it's different to have my wife up here now in the season. So it would be different having her up here. But really just it's about ball. I think trying to change, trying to find what's work, kind of find a rhythm throughout the weeks. And hopefully if you, you know, get W in the wind column, just try to repeat it. And if not, you got to change something where study more or get with the guys.

more or do something. I have one more question for you. I want to take you back to college. Your senior year, you're Drake May. Hey, is he going to go first overall? This kid's a specimen. He's this, he's that. You start off 7 and 0, 8 and 0, ranked 10 in the country.

Is this Drake May kid, is he about it? And then Virginia and Georgia Tech happened. What the fuck happened against Virginia and Georgia Tech? It was the same thing. Those are the kind of questions you're getting a bus with the boys. It's a hard-hitting general. I think it was tough. I think we had twice two years in a row my last two years I played we lost to Georgia Tech at home we ranked 10th in the country we were like nine and one and then we lost

to Virginia that next year we were like maybe seven or eight in the country at home yeah I think it's uh fucking Christ it's kind of the story North Con football really you know when I was there we just couldn't find a way to get over the hump kind of get into that next category of of wins and being that next kind of division of respect you know around the country for our football program. And I really think it was just unfortunate. This is my last question. What was your welcome in the NFL moment?

But you got to go to saying you have to go see it to be fast. I think to Neil Hunter, I think we came out of halftime. I just threw a touchdown. My first touchdown was 14-7 and we getting empty. And yeah, I get strip sack to start off the half, the first play. And then from there, it was kind of like, you know, holding the ball in this league. You got to get rid of it. Get rid of it.

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a rookie mini-camp tryout. Like the gutter, the gutter of gutters. Vrab was kind of saying, too, he's like the media camp trial guys, like you just have them there to be bodies for the people you bring in, the draft picks you bring in, the other preferred undrafted free agents that you bring in. You weren't one of those. You got what, an offer coming out. Where did you go to college?

To Western Michigan. To Western Michigan, bro. Thanks. And now, all the way to, you. just signing a three-year $33 million deal to be with the Patriots, a second stint with Coach Rable. We are fucking proud of you, bro. Stoked.

Definitely come a long way. It hasn't been easy. A lot of trials and tribulations. You know, when you start as an undrafted player, they look at you as an undrafted player for the remainder of your career. So I still have that chip on my shoulder. Every day I go out there, I tell myself, you're undrafted, you know, it's time to go earn it.

When did you think you had, obviously you could tell you, love ball. And we tell the story, we told the story in the podcast multiple times of us sitting after, I think it was Pittsburgh. Preseason game. He had an interception. He had like seven, eight, maybe even ten tackles. And you're kind of walking by and we're like chopping it up in the corner a little, we're a little banged up. And I'm like, hey man, kind of did your thing out there. And you kind of get a little nervous. You're like, I love football. And you kind of just kept it moving. And it's like, we joked and laughed about it. But like, brother, those are the guys that make it. The dudes that sit there and they're like, you have to truly love playing this game to be put in the

position you were in the NFL and not to be sitting where you are now. But at what point was it that rookie minicamp? Was it after your first year? When were you like, oh, I can, I think I can actually play in the NFL? I think our first practice as a team when I got the veterans in there after rookie minicamp and I saw what the NFL was, I knew I had a chance to make it. I had an internal confidence right away that I am undrafted. I'm the ninth man on the roster, the 90th overall, the ninth in the linebacker core. And I feel like I can make my, myself good enough to be good in this league one day. But you get cut.

Then you go on practice squad. You get cut, I believe in October, if I remember right. And then you end up signing with Pittsburgh in the next February, like after the season's over. So you're, you know, technically the saying is you're on your couch for the rest of the season. Did doubt ever creep in your mind? Make sure you hear the mic that will close to your face.

Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. When you get cut and you spend four months at home. You go out to L.A. for a tryout. They send you home without giving you a call back. You go out to Denver for a tryout. They send you home without getting a call back.

Go out to Pittsburgh for a tryout. And just as we're walking on the field with six inside linebackers, they sign one of them. They take one of them upstairs and say, we're going to sign you in front of everybody. So I go out for the tryout. I leave without a call. I, in turn, decided to give them a call back

and give them a peace of my mind and say, why the fuck did you bring me out here what what was the fucking point of bringing me out here if you already had your mind made up and it was that energy that fire that they saw in me and two days later they gave me an opportunity what are they saying on the phone so you call them you like hey patched me into mike tomlin it wasn't mike tomlin it was uh uh Kevin Colbert's son the head one of the head scouts that invited me to the tryout originally and he called me or I called him after the tryout saying, what was the point of you bringing out here? We just talked on the phone before I got out here.

You wanted to give me an opportunity. And I felt like that's bullshit. You guys signed a guy without even giving me a shot. And he just, oh, yeah, we're still looking at you. We're still looking at you. I'm like, yeah, bullshit, whatever. Didn't expect to hear anything back from them. Two days later, they gave me an opportunity to come in for a 90-man roster spot

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you're persevering, you're staying resilient, you believe in yourself, that it just get to a point where it's like, I got to figure out why this isn't happening. Yeah, without a doubt. I wanted answers. I wanted, I felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had the ability and the capabilities to one day be a successful player in this league. So it really bothered me that I wasn't getting that opportunity. And I honestly believe if I didn't have that chip on my shoulder, I wouldn't be here today.

Yeah. When you go to the Steelers, you get on the 90-man roster, put the dark visor on, by the way. That was a nice touch. Those are very nice. Yeah. Headaches. Yeah, yeah. It's what it's all about.

You go and play the Titans again. And there's a goal line stand. And a lot of people, I believe there's another reporter. He's on ESPN. and he talks about him and Derek Henry in the hole. He's taking Derek Henry out, and everyone always argues about it. But you actually stood Derek's ass up. I love to Derek.

We love Derek on the show. But you handled business. Was that like your coming out moment? For sure. My first career start against the team that cut me two years prior. Anytime you step on the field with King Henry, you have to give him respect and you have to bring it all. If you take a slight second of the playoff, he's scoring a touchdown.

So I knew at that moment that it had to be there on the goal line with the team that cut me two years prior. All that worked up inside me and I was able to make a nice play on the goal line. You were legit Bobby Boucher. Yeah. I felt the excitement from everybody in the stands. My whole family took a bus from Chicago to the game. Oh, that's awesome. I had a lot of friends on the Tennessee Titans still at that point that showed me love after the game.

so it was really a special moment for me. You put your face in the fan, did you feel like as you were getting up to celebrate? I definitely lost a few years of my life that I did. In that moment, I definitely gave the good Lord a few years of my life. Did you feel like, do you get a stinger or anything like that? Yeah, they call it a stinger,

but when you can't feel half your body and you're like, they're no wobbly. No shit. I came off the field. Cam Hayward rips me out the ground. He's like, oh, spit him. Sleep and get off the field. So I run off the field and obviously you don't want to be wobbling coming off the field.

So I'm like, oh, my shoulder sore, my shoulder. And I guess that's all part of playing in the NFL. So when you go to, as you're going through the Steelers, you get cut, you go on practice squad. You get cut again early in the year. You get brought back the next week. Then when Devin Bush goes down with an ACL injury, you get your number. called. And then that game, I think you go on, you have a few good plays. And then next week, Tomlin's in the press conference saying that you're going to be the starter. Take us through,

take us through that process and what that meant to hear knowing that coach Tomlin and the Steelers had that trust in you to continue to be the starter. Yeah, knowing that they had that trust in me, it was all I needed to go out there and succeed. Knowing I had the trust of the 10 people around me, it's a very safe spot when you're the middle linebacker of these defenses. You got 10 killers all around you. So it seems very chaotic and a lot going on. But for me, that's like where I feel the most calm. And having the confidence of the players and the coaches in that organization meant everything to me to go out there and succeed. How they break the news to you? They call you in the office. They play a trick on you or anything like that?

Yeah, Tomlin called me in and he said, it's time to start living like a pro. We need to get you some new outfits. We need to get you a new car. You're our starting middle linebacker. So you need to come in looking like it, playing like it. So it was kind of a fun moment for for me and something I'll never forget. Did you listen? You go get yourself a nice little something? I was going to say you get a new car? No, I didn't.

And that's probably why they didn't keep me around too much longer. So you went on, you signed a free agency with the Raiders. Did Pittsburgh not want you back? No, they didn't. And it hurts to say that. And it hurts to feel like that because you felt like you made all these great connections. You felt like you poured your heart on the line. You felt like you did everything to be.

be a good team player. But at the end of the day, this is a business, and they don't always want you back. And it hurts, and it hurts, and it adds to that chip on the shoulder. But that's all I could do at that point was go out to Vegas, my one opportunity, no one else was calling, and go out there and ball. So who else was in the conversation when you were negotiating as a free agent ended up with the Raiders? It was the Raiders. It was just the Raiders. It was the Raiders. So when you were going into free agency, what were those conversations like in your exit meetings? with the Steelers like as you're entering free agency. Before I went into free agency that told me go out, test the market, see what you get.

We're going to offer whatever they give you. And we want to make you a stealer. We love you. In your brain, you're like, this is where I want to be. So I called them, oh, I got an offer from the Steeler or from the Raiders. Like, I want to come back. What's the deal? And they're like, oh, good luck, have fun.

So that's how it happened. And obviously at the time you're sick, you're moving across the country. but at the same time you're so happy because somebody believes in you and that's all you really need to have Patrick Graham out there to have Josh McDaniels out there Antonio Pierce believing in me

as a player and as a person that's what gives me confidence to go out there and do what I do best what was it like when so was it March when I saw you at UFC yeah yeah and like Spillane like walks by me I'm just kind of walking

and he kind of like he's like hey could you see you man like Desmeabre he goes I'm gonna be a patriot and it just kind of books it out of there. I was like, he's just, you just beaming. Absolutely beaming about it. When Braves calls you, were you just so fired up about the full circle moment? Was he the one that called you or the GM called you?

Yeah, they offered the deal once free agency opened. And I knew I wanted to be a patriot. I knew I wanted to get back with Coach Vrable. I knew what type of person he is, willing to lay his life on the line for his players. And it's just an organization that you want to be a part of. It's a historic organization. and a new emerging team with a lot of new pieces, and it seemed like a really good opportunity for me and my family.

How does it feel for you when you walk out and do a scrimmage last Friday and you see all six of those banners standing up there in the stadium? Yeah, it's pressure, but at the end of the day, that's why we come out here. That's why we love doing what we're doing. We love when these stadiums are filled out, sold out, rocking loud, and excitement, and we're going to have a lot of that this year,

and I can't wait to see what Pat's Nation is all about. lot. Your second stint in free agency, same kind of question. Like when it was coming to an end with the Raiders, like who was in the market for you before you ultimately decided on the Patriots? Like, were the Raiders wanting you back? Not really. God damn.

Yeah. And I feel like that. Giving it is all. Giving it is all. He's out there with Max Crosby. You're going to have to ask Max because he went on the podcast and he said, you know, he's been in the office with the GM every day in the office. and so I don't know what happened where the love loss was there.

But at the end of the day, I have this opportunity here and I'm going to do everything I can to be a good teammate here and perform for the Patriots. Were there any other teams that were fighting for you before you decided here? Yeah, there was. Are you able to... Do you want to hear about it? Yeah, so this is a podcast we do.

We like talking to people. Yeah, we like telling stories. We like hearing their stories. This isn't like a professional ESPN sit-down. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a team in the West Coast. There was a team that I had recently played for and won in the mountains. And they all showed big interest and were excited. So Denver Chargers, Titans? Close. That's very close. Did Titans call you? That's very close. Yes. And then the Rams? Yeah, well, we'll just say that was close. That was very close.

Who is the closest outside of the New England? I don't know. I mean, once it came down to it, New England said and showed me that they wanted me to come out here, it was a done deal. I wanted to be here out of the four teams that were offering. I wanted to be part of the Patriots. So I'm glad that we got it done here,

and I'm excited to go out and perform. You know Spillane when we're asking these questions. Everything we've asked so far is harmless, but he's thinking to himself, what's that team meeting going to look like when this podcast comes out. And Braves goes, Blaine, we're not paying you enough?

You didn't want to be here? No, I'm so excited and glad to be here. And we got a young team. A lot of free agents join the team this year, so it's going to look a lot different than last year. And we're just going to go out and continue to work. What do you do my best to ask a question where you just won't give a bullshit answer.

Oh, no. Are they all bullshit? answer? No, no, no, no. Keep the vague questions going. You got the verbalism to speak for yourself. You're in it. I mean, I don't want to fucking say something stupid. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. No doubt. I am not a trained podcaster, so. When you, none of us are. These other hypothetical teams that I may or may not been close on, did they offer, any of them offer the same amount as the Patriots? Yes, they were right in the same ballpark. Got you. What, any more? They were right in the same ballpark as the Patriots.

Did you have a recruiting dinner with Braves? Recruiting dinner. Like, did you come out here to visit and the Vraib was courting you around? Once we signed, you're saying? Before. No. Like if you came out here for a visit or something? There was no conversation leading up to free agency.

Once free agency hit, my agent called me at whatever it was noon that day and said, you know, the Pats really want you. So I was excited to hear that. I've worked with Coach T in the past, our defensive coordinator. I've worked with Vrable in the past. and it just seemed like the right fit for me and my family. You have to play the Steelers and the Raiders, two teams that have elite pass rushers.

What are similarities and some differences you see between T.J. Watt and Max Crosby. Yeah, two of the best in the league, obviously, as you can see those contracts. Those boys are living right. They are working hard. T.J. is dominant, both on the left side of the ball. Both have the freedom to do whatever they want. on a play. You know, if you have a non-dominant edge rusher, you tell them, set the edge.

If you have Max and TJ, you tell them, do whatever the hell you want because we know you're going to make a play. So playing behind those guys has let me learn how to play behind people that like to swim gaps, like to find the ball. I think TJ has done a great job. Forrest fumbles, interceptions. Max has the best motor in the NFL, so he is unblockable for 90 snaps side of the game, which is unheard of for Medea. I love it. Bobby, we're getting the wrap-up signal, but, dude, again, so proud of you. I think you were a fucking awesome example for undrafted guys, being a rookie mini-camp

trial guy to get all the way into your third contract, which is massive, especially at the linebacker spot, man. I wish you well this year, bro. Stay healthy. Yeah, thanks for having me out. I appreciate. Love you, guys. Love you too, man.

Pout of you, though. Thank you, guys. Sorry, I hope I wasn't bullshit. Let's get into this. That outfit, you're obviously rocking something special. What is the, what's the reason for this? So originally there was function behind it. So six years ago, I played Miami. Yeah. You know, it's 95 degrees, feels like 102. But the ends of this don't get wet. Yeah. When it's like flowing through, it'll sweat up here, but the whole shirt won't get wet so I can dry my fingers. And then every training camp now, I just do it. I love it. Yeah. So originally there was functional.

Now it's pure style. Yeah. Because it's like 82 outside. How crazy is it going from a place like Miami to New England? And then you're probably in the train camp and you hear one guy whispered, man, it's fucking hot out here today. And you're like, yo, shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? You have no idea.

I literally, the guys was like, it was like 93 the other day. Dude's like, I can't. I don't know if I can go. I'm like, what are you talking about? This is like, if we got a 93 degree day in Miami, everybody was smiling ear to ear. Like, this is simple. Yeah, it's gorgeous out here. Yeah, it's super nice.

Like, y'all haven't even changed your cleats because they're soaking water. through yet. Right. You start walking up the field and your feet are a little squishy. Yeah, that's what you know. Okay, we had a hot day. Okay, we had a hot day. Yeah. How's the process been with Mike and the culture and everything here in New England? It's been good. I think one of the biggest things. And I've been kind of in that New

England style system of like work and get shit done. And I love that type of shit. Like the guy who works hard gets rewarded. But having Mike who was also played. So he understands like when he says some shit, it's like, okay, He's actually probably done it. He's done some of the shit that he's telling us to do. So it works out. It's like, okay, cool. I can hear where he's coming from because he could pull up from tape with him actually doing it.

He's not just talking out his ass. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we? How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. for the podcast.

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but he did do it for 14 years. How many times has he mentioned that he's played 14 years in the NFL and team meetings? Team meetings, I don't know. When he comes in the receiver room, it's straight to the touchdowns. It's like 10 for 10 or 12 for 12,

whatever it is. Even I can do it. When he first went to the Titans, this is AJ's first year, he put up all the receivers and their stats from the year before, and it was like, I think all of them had like maybe total 11.

And then his was 12 for 12, 12 touchdowns. Yeah. He's old. He outpaced him. What was it until? I want to say it was in the middle of the second time around that I was there, like 20-20. Yeah. The room finally passed him in touchdowns.

Which is, we needed that. That was a team. That was a team. That was a team. Big for the team. That was a team. Big for the guys in media. How big, how, how finally do you look back on your last year with Buffalo?

It seemed like you had a lot of fun. I feel like you were in the headlines a lot more. Obviously, you've talked to, you've spoken about your feet at length. But it seemed like you guys had a really fun locker room in Buffalo. Yeah, for sure. I had a lot of fun. The guys are great. Anybody who's played their kind of knows, that's really all there is is ball and city loves you. And if you work hard, it kind of turns over. And you're winning games. And when you're winning games, no matter where you're at, it's freaking great. So yeah, I had a great time there. And I was able to be barefoot and wild and all that stuff. They just embraced it. And like, people started wearing no shoes in the snow. And I was like, hey, I'm not liable for any of that shit. Yeah. You go no shoes in the snow? Yeah. On the walk in, yeah. Walk in no matter what the temper. is I'm going barefoot.

But if it gets below 35, I'm wearing. Grounding. It's just, I don't know, I think the word I guess people use would be the Pucification of America. People are so soft now. Like, bro, do something hard for once. It's not even hard to wear no shoes. But like if it gets below 35, I'm not an idiot.

Like, I'll put shoes on. But walking into games, no matter what, I have to be barefoot. How long have you been doing this for? Walking into games, probably three, four years. Yeah. So I got hurt seven years ago, started training barefoot, found these guys in Australia called MMT. They trained, they showed up to Philly.

I flew him out, freaking barefoot. Off the plane, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Same way y'all look at me. That's how I looked at them. Started training with them. And then like three, four years ago, I was like, what's the point of the shoes? Now I just don't pack them and shit. Other than bathrooms and airports, it's the only time I wear shoes.

Really? So you obviously go into a restaurant. They're like, excuse me, sir. If I'm by myself, so be it. But if I'm with the group, I'm going to wear shoes. Like, I'm not going to screw the whole party yet. Right. You don't want to mess up the whole. Yeah.

But by myself, I get kicked out of places all the time. So that's an Uberita sport. He stayed at Uberita sport. You stay at the house. You probably have to be so thankful you found this group in Australia. Yeah. When you did. Yeah, I mean, I was about to retire.

Like, I couldn't walk for a year. Like, just came off the Super Bowl, just won a Super Bowl. And then for six, eight months, couldn't walk. And I was like, yo, I just was at the peak to can't do anything. What was the injury again? Groyant. So I had a groin and had surgery. Three months later, toward the other side, had surgery again.

and like couldn't walk couldn't get back from it. And what was these Australians, these barefoot Australians? Yeah. What is the method behind having your shoes? So they're called Melbourne Muscular Therapy. So muscular therapy is like their main thing, body work. But then they also do, so I was doing Wim Hof stuff. I was doing like breathing exercise, eye, gazing where you like sit inches from each other

and stare at each other eyes. Literally the first thing they did when they got to my house, they blindfold me, picked me up on their shoulders and started carrying me around the neighborhood. And this is like Philly. And our season is not going too hot at the time. So now they see my weird ass doing this. And I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, we just want you to know that no matter what, like we got you.

And at that point, I was like, whatever, I'm about to retire. I'll do whatever y'all say. And then within like three months, I was back running again. And you know when you get hurt and you all of a sudden get that like, oh, I might be able to do this again. Yeah. It freaking changed everything. Everything you're explaining to me sounds like the beginning of a cult. Sometimes the cults are right, though.

See, that's how you know you're a couple phases in. You're a couple phases in already. I'm scared to even ask him which cult is right. Right, exactly. She's got to know your Kool-Aid. Yeah, no doubt. So they're picking you up, they're walking around Philly, and all of a sudden you walk and feel great a few months later.

I mean, the body work is their main thing. So they did bodywork on me. I would say between six and eight hours a day for two weeks straight. So I'm getting 40-plus hours a week of like bodywork, holding muscles, just completely releasing all the tension in my body. In their mind, your body's kind of like a plumbing system. And there's just clogs all over the place. So how can we help you unclog so everything flows properly?

And that's what they did. Like, you know, when you have a surgery, you wake up and your brain doesn't know what's going on. It just wakes up and it's like, oh, shit, this is completely different than what it was. Now just get fixed. And we're just so trained to, yep, you had surgery so you're good. But your brain doesn't know. It went to sleep and it couldn't really control or had pain somewhere. And it wakes up and, like, now it doesn't know what's going on.

So I think that second surgery, you just kind of shut everything down. And they were able to get me back on. For the last couple minutes, I would love to know. So what is your favorite thing about Coach Vrable? And what is one thing you don't, yeah. That you think Braves could work on. Yeah, you think he'll work on. There we go.

Because I was like, man, should I say hate? Growth mindset. Growth mindset. I think what I love is that he'll get the competitiveness out of me. I love talking shit. I think he does too. And it gets that, even though he's getting older and you kind of lose that T-level and that competitive, like I'm still a player.

Yeah. But he still has it. He's got the edge. Yeah, he still has it and you can get it out of him and it's, and it's great. Things that he could work on or improve. Yeah, pet peeve of yours. I feel like sometimes he gets soft on the guys now, you know? Oh, you think so?

Yeah, I think he's good. I think it's more of a CBA thing than him now. I think he wants to get us to work, but I think he's, like, kind of forced not to. And sometimes I look at him, I think he really wants to, like, spaz on dudes. You know, like, if somebody came late, how it probably was before the CPA changed a little bit, and you couldn't be as, like, strict a guy's. I think he still has it in him and he wants to let it out. But, like, I don't think he's allowed to anymore.

So you think he's lost to, if you think he's got a little soft. Yeah, right? So what you're saying is the pacification of America, raves is a part of that. No, not really. It's, like, forced on him. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. He's a pent up bull.

Yeah, like, yeah, like, he really wants to just spaz on somebody for, like, coming late or, like, doing some shit that, like, constantly happens, but he just, like, not allowed to. Yeah. And I can, like, see it because I'm front row and I'm like, ah, I think he, I think he's about to do it. He's going to do it and he's like, I can't do it. You look at him in like a way like you're kind of sad for him because he's conforming. Like he had, yeah, he asked him.

Yeah. Let it out, man. Right. Because now it's like this Twitter age like fucking in 30 minutes it'll come out that Braves yelled at somebody and all the sudden. Yeah. We got to shut the team out. When you see it in him next time, you should just whisper, hey, Braves, do that. Do it.

Do it. Let it out. Let it out. Do we got a, are we good? All right. Yeah. Well, let's you do your thing, man. We know you guys are on the business.

We appreciate it. You're taking the time. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, boy. Appreciate it. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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