Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Rob Gronkowski On Mike Vrabel's Patriots, Belichick At UNC & Joining Brady On Bucs

Episode Date: February 28, 2026

Finally! The Boys had arguably the greatest tight end in NFL history, Gronk is on the bus. In one of the most anticipated episodes of Bussin’ With The Boys, Rob Gronkowski pulled up for a full-send, no-holds-barred sit-down interview with Will Compton and Taylor Lewan, and it’s everything you’d hope for. From his hockey roots and college football days at Arizona to wild NFL draft stories, Super Bowl memories, and of course, partying like only Gronk can—this one is absolutely electric. Things heat up as Gronk gives an unfiltered look at the Patriots dynasty—how intense it really was in New England, what it meant to be “Tom’s guy,” and why he genuinely loved blocking more than receiving. He breaks down life with Aaron Hernandez, what Bill Belichick is like off the field, and the truth about the Brady-Belichick breakup that sent Tom to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and ended with Bill taking over at UNC. But it wouldn’t be a Gronk episode without some wild moments. He nearly got traded to the Lions, has more cameos than any man alive, and somehow never touched his NFL salary after entering the league. Add in some spicy Tier Talk and closing thoughts on life after football—plus a legendary Steve Harvey LEGO head spike—and you’ve got one for the record books. A certified Tier 1 banger. Gronk, The Boys, and absolute chaos. Enjoy this one again!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bussing with the boys. Hanging with the Fetting on a gonna tell her. And I'll be with the fellas. Bro. Are we rolling, Mitchie? Yeah. All right, we're rolling right now.

Let's give a round of applause. Rob Gunkowski finally making out of the bus. Yes. Been a long time coming three years time. We've been trying for three years. It's a pleasure to finally be on busing with the boys. Where the first time we met was at my house, you were doing about 2000 of NAD, just sat there and stared at the wall for three hours, just dying for a little bit.

The next time, tied into you. Yep. We were putting the full court press on them. And then we almost made it happen. But then I had to go to town for something. I can't remember what it was. Must have not been before. We tried several times.

We've tried several times. Like Brock said, the perfect moment's going to strike in that perfect. moment is now. Right. You know why? Because of Fandle. Fandle's brought all the boys together. The number one sportsbook in all of America. Yeah, if you're watching right now, make sure you are subscribed to the channel.

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The Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder in the West. the Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks in the East, who are we riding with for the rest of the pro season, for the rest of the postseason boys? I'm gonna give me the Knicks. Mm-hmm. Give me the Knicks. Look, I'm just, I don't know shit about basketball,

but I'm gonna ride it with the Knicks because I feel like they've created the most chaos on social media. Yeah. Taking down the Celtics. I was actually just at game. I think it was game four. It was in New York. I was there actually with Fandul.

I was up in their suite, you know, shooting some content, making some bets on the game. And that atmosphere in New York, York at Madison Square Garden was absolutely electric, my man. I'm talking. I never seen a basketball game like that. The Garden in Boston is always electric, but it was like another level, you know, in New York City. I feel like because they haven't been in the playoffs or that far and so long, and they're also facing the reigning champs. And they did win that game as well. So New York is popping,

but I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan, actually. Not really, I don't really have a true NBA team because I grew up in Buffalo, but I'm cheering for Oklahoma. with thunder right now i just watch game seven versus oh i thought you're going nix all right no i'm not going nix i was just giving them credit for their atmosphere and it does it feels like the fan base is psychotic and incredible psychotic yeah the last game they just played they like beat the shit out of uh the celtics like one 18 to like 84 something like that well i mean the south i'm talking the tedum was down brown has like a torn mcel the couple other guys they're getting football injuries had like an illness yeah football

injuries. They just don't know how to work through because they're not football. Got to get that soft fish. You get that soft dish, figure it out, baby. And also Timothy Shalamein. You see that guy sitting outside the SUV? Yeah. I was going to say the videos after the game, like outside Timothy Charlemagne and then like

there's some fan. What is that? I think you said it nice. Charlemagne? Yeah, Charlemagne. That's a hard name to say. It's a hard name to say. You don't want me to try to say.

And I saw some other fans where they're throwing like trash bags at them. Who is that? Was that a Celtics fan? That was an Indiana Pacers fan and he was wearing the star player's name. What's, Halliburton? Sure. Yeah, Halliburton's jersey

and they were throwing trash cans and everything at him. Everybody just video on it. Dude, the Northeast was sports. Which was wild. That's too much, man. Just because he's wearing the jersey around the city and you're attacking him.

I mean, it was one verse like a thousand. The guy just had to walk away in shame. But I think that's too much to start throwing trash at like a random fan that's just wearing another jersey. Can I tell you something? In the middle of the streets. It's a lot.

I kind of love it. You do? I do because it's just like it adds to me. For the entertainment. For the entertainment. I don't think we should ever hurt somebody. We should never be hateful. Checkbox,

check box, check box. But I also think like when fan bases are that nasty. You talk about like the Philadelphia Eagles. Like that adds to the storyline of all the teams playing. And the last time they played X, Y, and Z happened. Like I think it's good for sports and the culture and everything like that. That's a good point.

There's a place for it. Just as long as it doesn't lead to, you know, aggressive. And, stabbing people. And fights and, yeah, people getting stabbed. But that's usually what it leads to eventually. Right, right. If we can just throw a nice bag of trash or somebody and they maybe just like bump chest a couple times, push each other.

All right. We'll move on. Yeah, we'll take that. All right. Every day of the week. Yeah. Maybe throw a couple fists. Yeah.

Just a couple. Yeah, just a couple. Keep it classy. Well, since we're showing the basketball thing, Kate and Clark, Angel Reese, where do you stand on that? I'm a Kate and Clark fan. Are you really? Where do you stand on that?

Do you see this past weekend? I see how the internet's blowing up about it and making it something like way more than what it actually is. I really do think that Angel Reese does not like Caitlin Clark. Well, she probably doesn't. She definitely doesn't. They have probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to make it about some race thing. Storyline. Oh, yeah.

But the first time, I'm a Caitlin Clark fan because I actually just hearing a lot about her when she was at Iowa. What was it? I think her second last year when she was playing in all the games. No, I think it was her last year. And I haven't seen her play yet. And then she was in the tournament. And I finally watched a game in the tournament. And she was just shooting threes up.

like she was Steph Curry and she was just sinking them from like five feet past the three point line. That's when I became a big fan just watching her first game in the tournament. And I was just thrilled watching her. And I was in shock just how smooth she was too with all her passes, the way she dribble and the way she shot. And then ever since then I became a big fan of her game. And now I follow her through the WMBA and I follow that whole beef, Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark. And I think Caitlin Clark is on the pedestal of being top dog in the NBA and the WMB and the WMB. NBA and Angel Reese, I feel like is just a little bit jealous.

You know? The thing when we go, we talk about storylines. Yeah, right. That too. It goes all the way back to them. Caitlin Clark being as good as she is is one thing. So she comes in as a big jump in the, in the viewership in WMBA.

But that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel Reese's adding to like the hate. Now we have this big rivalry going on. So next time they play, the seats were filled for that game. And I just think it's brought a lot of attention to the league. Yeah. I don't think, yeah, I agree. You need Angel Reese to have this hatred.

to Caitlin Clark and all these other players to keep getting that attention that the WMBA actually deserves as well and it's working. You know, if they were all for Caitlin Clark, oh, she's such a good player. She's so sweet to play against. I'm going to let her shoot her three-pointer.

I'm not going to contest it. No, since she's getting elbows thrown at her, people are loving that. And people love physicality in sports. That's what fans love. That's why hockey's back, all the fighting with the four nations, everyone's throwing elbows at each other, the checks.

That's why the NBA's kind of back in the playoffs. right now because the referees are letting all that physicality, you know, just go on. They're getting physical again in the pain. They're throwing elbows. They're playing hard. And fans love to see that. And that's why football is the greatest sport. Because every play is physical.

You don't know what's going to happen. You're getting dirty. Every single play. Before we go any further, could we just get a quick moment of silence from my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs? Thank you very much for your time. You know, that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo. I'm a big Buffalo Sabres fan. I'm fans to Toronto Maple Leafs was our rival.

Really? You know, throughout my whole childhood, especially Ty Domi versus Rob Ray, all those fights back in the day. I loved both of them just getting after it. Yes, but I didn't really want to give that moments of silence. Okay. By the A, I just said it.

It's all about being here in the bus. I will say this. We can be nasty about Toronto now. They're in Game 7 in the biggest game in your franchise's history since 1967 when you actually won the cup. Disgusting display of effort. The boys were, did not want it yesterday. In the first period, zero, zero.

Then all of a sudden I go to start putting my kids down. I pop up on the YouTube TV as I'm laying on the ground as they're falling asleep. And they're just getting throttled. It was like three goals within 10 minutes. Buddy. And they just got after them over and over and over again. I mean, they killed a great penalty after the first period. And then while it was a wall, he was a goalie, correct?

He became a sieve in those last two periods. And it was just tough, dude. Tough. Well, I know history repeats this. and I think the Toronto Maple Leafs had folded and basically every game seven in the last five, six years, right? In the playoffs.

So I actually did my first NHL bet on Fandual sports book last night, I bet $200 on the Florida Panthers just beating the Toronto Maple Leaf straight up. And I won, let me pull it up, man. I'm not telling you, it was my first bet I've ever made. And I'll pull up my-in-the-H-L world. Taylor put five grand on the Maple Leafs. Yeah, and that must have not worked so well.

No, it didn't hit. It didn't hit everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Mike, my head and I bet the Florida Pan. Yeah, yeah. So I kind of wish you won now and then we could have like, you know, one more money. You mentioned, the Taylor bet a lot more and got his asking. Hold on.

Let me go. It was actually my first bet in the state of Tennessee, too, which is really cool. All right here, Tennessee settled. Look at that. Florida Panthers, total wage, $200, $1,3.40. I love that. Yeah, look at that. You don't got to show me.

You know, I just kind of wanted to. You just wanted to show it off. it out. I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night. I'm just thinking to myself. God damn it. Well, I was just watching.

I was doing the same thing. I was, I was about a thousand percent right now. My last four bets with the Toronto Maple Leafs that had gotten murdered. And I had Toronto a futures bet on them winning the Eastern Conference finals. And obviously that's not going to come together anymore.

That's now dead. Biz has been such a like, you know, voice for the Leafs. And then you've obviously been riding with the Leafs too. So knowing that they were in a game seven when I was just watching it last night. night just as like a non-hockey guy just watching as a fan of the love of the game for the love of the game we got a game seven going on it did seem like florida was just playing at a different speed

just bullying bullying the maple league i had clump on the phone with a bunch of people from fan duel setting up something when they won this game i was going to go to a game in toronto yeah check it out get the environment see what that's all about sure enough man well they shit the bed and everyone told me Toronto is like the Dallas cowboys of hockey like they're like the biggest most well known franchise. They sell the most jerseys. They make the most money. And I thought, that's great. I'll get behind them. It'll be a fun fan base to play with.

Little did I know, if they really are the Dallas Cowboys, they'll shit the bed in the playoffs. And that's what just happened. Yeah. Tough. Tough. It was one too, like when it was zero after the first period, I was like, I wonder if it were, because you could notice that Florida was just out playing them a whole time, even though it was zero. It was like 17 to three shots. I'm like, are they going to let them hang around and the lease might just

pull something off. But then they just started to just put their face in the pillow. And Austin Matthews is Scotts. Scottsdale Arizona guy, captain. I was like, man, I need an Arizona boy to run for us. But now we got Cucchuk for the Panthers. I mean, my favorite player in the NHL though is the Edmont to Noilers. I'm going blank.

Yeah, McDavid. I mean, I love just the way that he plays how he skates around. He's incredible. Ice to ice, you know, lying to line and just goes around everyone. I'm cheering for him. I'm hoping to Edmonton Oilers win it all. Plus, I feel like the NHL needs a candidate team to, you know, win it. It's been so long.

and I think that will bring hockey back in a way, even though, you know, the four nations. Yeah, even though we're beefing a little bit. Yeah, we're beefing Holland right now. Yeah. Canada's beefing with the U.S. Real world.

I think it would be, yeah, I think it would be really good if Edmonton Oilers win it for the NHL. Just for the sport, the attention and everything. Exactly. And on top of it, in top of speaking about hockey, my brother texted me this morning,

he goes, you have to let, because I was like, I'm going on with Boston with the boys, and I didn't really know. I don't think he really knew that's truly, you guys are like more of a football podcast. And he goes, you have to let them know you're going to be in the hockey world soon with all your nephews. So I just want to give a shout out to all my nephews. They're up and coming in the hockey world right now.

They're playing on the Buffalo Junior Sabres. They're ballers. And you'll be hearing a lot about them in the future. He's about eight years old and 10 years. Shout to my nephews. Ralphie didn't like that. Ralphie was not a fan of that class. I told my brother, I would get it in if somehow the hockey subject gets brought up.

So there you go, brother. And Jace Grayson, keep dominating boys. You guys are going to be lethal. out there on the ice. You play it all? You get on the skates, be in New York? I love playing hockey, man. I grew up and played until ninth grade,

and I stopped playing hockey because hockey and basketball were at the same time. And I just thought basketball was a better fit for me. And I kind of like basketball more at that time. But hockey was my favorite sport growing up. Yeah, I mean, you're massive. Like that's probably the right call with basketball. Yeah, but think about this guy as a defenseman in hockey. I was a left wing.

I was like Chara, but left wing. Do you know who Chalo is? No. That's your wife, number one. Number two is a Danyacharo. So he was a guy that played for the Boston Bruins. He's like 6-7. He's like 6-11 on skates.

He was Russian, right? This Russian cat who would just beat the fuck out of people. He was not from the U.S. I don't know exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was not from here. He wasn't from here. But the guy had like a hundred.

I think he did like 110 mile an hour slap shot. Because he used to do that like the All-Star games. They would do all like the little challenges. His slap shot was insane. He played literally like 23 years in the NHL. And just with bodybag people. Probably the best defense of all time. Yeah.

And that could have been. been grown. It's 6-9. It could have been grown. It could have been grown. Were you nice up until you stopped playing? Yeah, I was nice. I was nice.

If I get on skates now, I'm pretty sloppy because it's been so long and you got to like be able to skate all the time in order to keep up with it. But I was nice, man. I only played up a level. I played with all my friends that were older than me. I love playing hockey. It was, it was by far my favorite sport. And I was in Buffalo too with all the ice rinks around.

It was so good. I had one time scored 10 goals in a game when it was, it was house hockey. We were down 10. I ended up scoring 10 goals in a row and tied it up and made it 11 11. And then we ended up losing 12 to 11. That was, I think, squirts. You scored 10 goals? 10 goals.

It was ridiculous. It was one of the best performances of all time. I know it was just house hockey. And then another time, there was this chick. She was, this was travel hockey. There was just chick on the cheek to waga team, I think it was. And this is a pretty good story. And she was vicious.

She was strong. and she always came after me to try and just deck me. And it was always a joke all right. We're playing the chick, like, don't get leveled. And she came at me, and I absolutely destroyed her. I'm talking like, she would go flying back like three feet, but she would get up, and the next shift, she would come full speed and try to deck me one time.

She hit me pretty hard. She went flying back still, though, but my helmet broke and my face mask went flying off me. So still to this day, my friends punked me about the time. The chick absolutely rocked me, and my face masks weren't flying off me. But then, like, literally, like 10 years later when I got to the NFL, whatever, eight years later, however long it was, I'm a rookie. And she DMs me on Facebook.

She's like, hey, Rob, remember, I'm the girl that always attacked you in hockey. And I, like, lost my mind. I was showing all my friends that she's writing me messages. It was just, it was just cool. Big respect to her, too. Even though she got deck, she came back. She tried to slide in the DMs after. Yeah.

Oh, he made it to the league? You're arch rival. She was your angel Reese. And then all of a sudden you make it to the league. I just want to give her a shout out for just having the sack to just come at me. Yeah. Yeah. Every single shift.

I'm sure you were an absolute unit at this time too still. Oh, yeah, I was. No, back in the day when I was playing hockey. Oh, fearless. Fearless. I played hot. We had a much different stories. I played hockey like when I was like eight or whatever like mites.

And it was right before checking. And I house got a hat trick. We won it. The next year, Peewees were doing like trials for a travel team. And I did not know checking was like starting. right as the whistle's blowing some guy who I believe in my head is still to this day he was six, seven at eight years old

knocks me down and I got off the ice I was done I wanted nothing to do with it. Really? Wanted nothing to do with it. Was that the last time you skate? That was the last time. You know they said get back on the horse? No. I went in that locker room. I took my pads off. I retired that day. Dude, I was such a pussy growing up. Well, then what got you into football? If you couldn't handle hockey heads,

how did you get into football? I was the kid. I was the kid that was like tall. He even hated baseball. I think he got hit with the ball Yeah, I got hit by a pitch. But, dude, I would step when he was done. Oh, Mom, I'm never playing a guy. That was me. Yes. Dude, I would step out of the batters box and they're like kind of swing like this.

Oh, you were one of those kids. I was one of those kids. Oh, those were the best, too. Okay, that backs up when the pitch is coming, he backs up three feet and the swings. That was me. Yeah. That was you because he's so scared. So scared.

All those kids drove me crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was, we would have hated my guts. You would have hated my guts. You would have hated my guts. Like, yeah. Like, when did that switch get? Probably puberty? Probably like my, yeah.

I got a good little hair on my sack and I was like, you know what, this physicality thing is not bad. I like went from doing sports like from 5 to 11, 12, 13. I did my whole like X games like a meta militia, Travis Pastrana, Nitro Circuit's life. And then I got a little bit of trouble. My dad's like, you got to play football. And we went and played football one state my sophomore year at nose tackle. And from then on I was like, yo, I'm obsessed with football. I loved it.

Is that the dog? Yeah, that's Ralphie. If people are able to see Ralphie down here, we got, yeah, we got a little French. He's making squirrel noises in the corner over here. He's a good boy. He's actually been on TV before he was in a USAA commercial with me. Oh, yeah. So this guy's a superstar.

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Really? Yeah. Who would that be? Sniff them out. You talk about yourself? No. You look like a Frenchie a little bit. Yeah, you look like a French.

Yeah, you look like one of those white Frenchies. Yeah. I got an English bulldog. at home off. Oh, you do? Yeah. All right. That's like a French bulldog.

Yeah. We're part of the bulldog world. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, yeah, you do. You look like more of a French. But go ahead. Snive him out.

I'm an English bulldog. That's tough. It's definitely. Taylor, you can't. I can't hate Frenches. I don't hate Frenches. Yeah, you're not opposed to him. I'm a little bit opposed to him.

Really? Oh, so it's him. Yeah. I'm one of them. He's one of them. You're not a French guy. I'm not a French guy. I think he's got a good coat on him.

He's got good broad shoulders. He's got a nice coat on. The boy looks good. Got a piece on him too. My God. What about these balls that are hanging back there? I haven't seen those yet. I haven't seen those.

I mean, right there's nickname's Ralph Nuts. I'll take a peek later. I don't know. I don't want to make him uncomfortable right now. But yeah, yeah, good looking dog. I just. Wow.

Yeah. This is a tough start to me in this podcast. It's a tough start for me. You know, walk off the bus. Don't do that. Not, don't do that. Not, yeah. Bus driver, open up the door.

Ralph and I getting off. We're going for a walk. Yeah, we're going to have to think about this one. We need to take a couple deep breaths. Aren't these guys like made in the lab? Like aren't they like not? I know that that is one thing that they say about it.

I just kind of plug my ears when people start talking about that. They got a lot of health issues too, right? A lot of health issues. But this guy, he stays in top shape. But he's pretty healthy. That's crazy. But a majority of them,

I mean, for how healthy he is, it's still like a full-time job, just making sure that he's healthy. But, you know, you got to keep them active. If you don't keep them active, then that's when all the health problems definitely

really start. You put them on the treadmill, the hot dog in front of them. Their personalities are through their roof. They're like human beings. They're the best to be one-on-one with them. They're just so entertaining and loving. That's awesome, man. Thank you, man.

Thank you for being happy for you. As long as you're happy for me. I'm happy. That's it, brother. That's all I can do. I'm staying. Dude, let's talk about growing up, so you grew up in Buffalo. I don't like Taylor.

He ran over to the French bull dog master. Yeah, Bobbo. So you grew in Buffalo. Ivy guy. Yeah. Shout on Airtay. Airtay. Shout out.

Shout out. You know, I'm a good guy. Like, he gave me an IV this morning. He was always a surgeon. I had some, you know, vitamins this morning, some NAD. They'll make sure I'm clear minded. So thank you to Aratee. Yeah.

Shout out Arate. Adet. Dot it. Dude, Buffalo. You grew up in Buffalo. How do you head to Tucson, Arizona? All right. Was it dirt bags?

It wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually, I never been the dirt bags before until. I actually went to the NFL and then I was old enough when I came back on a visit after my rookie year. I was 21 so I finally got to go to dirtbacks. I didn't hit any bars when I was great save. No no I really didn't you were allowed to I mean I would admit it like no big deal I didn't hit any bars when I was at the University of Arizona it was literally all house parties or going to a frat party or having our own house party or just running around the streets just trying to get into a bar but not getting into the bar because I was you know never of age but um so

my brothers were getting recruited out of high school. And my brother Chris, who's two years older than me. Well, first off, my dad's in the business of selling fitness equipment. He's been in the business for 35 years now. And then he became best friends with a guy named Donnie who did the same thing as him that was an alumni at the University of Arizona but sold all his equipment in Arizona. So then, you know, they go on a work trip where life fitness brings everyone because they both sell life fitness products and then what is it like a fitness convention and then that's where they met and they became best friends and then uh when we were all just kids so like alumni Arizona was like bring your kids out to Arizona I know the coaches I'll get them you know I'll try to get them a scholarship show them

the film bring them out on a trip come on we got to get it done so I went on a trip with my brother when he was a senior uh when he went to the university of Arizona my dad was like hey you're up next in line like come on the trip see what it's all about to get recruited uh and then University of Arizona was the very first school I basically ever seen in my life. And I fell in love with the place. My sophomore year in high school, I was like, this is a college. This is this is ridiculous. I mean, it's 90 degrees, palm trees.

We went by a pool party and like as a sophomore year, you know, in high school, you're like, oh, my gosh. Out in Arizona. This is ridiculous. Yeah, those Arizona schools. ASU, UA is nuts. Exactly. And then that's how I got to University of Arizona. I fell in love with it when I just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting

trip and then they started recruiting me from there after my brother chose to go to the university of Maryland then he actually transferred to the university of Arizona and played with me there for two years and he was the fullback and I was the tight end and we were on the field at the same time for a year which was just super cool to have and just ball out with my brother so that's how I got there long story short you were you highly recruited coming out of high school yeah I was a four star I was uh in the rivals top yeah 150 I was like the fifth tight end um on the board her So he was up there. Hernandez was actually number one.

Really? Yeah, we were in the same class. He was number one. And then there was a couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they never made it to the NFL, I don't think. But it was, you know, it was, you know, the whole entire recruiting process I went through. It was, you know, enjoyable because my top four, you know, were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse, and Arizona. And everyone was just so surprised that I, you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west.

but I just fell in love with that place from the very beginning. Love Clemson almost went there. That was definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me. I kind of just took a visit there because it was the Ohio State University. I mean, I could definitely see myself fitting in there. You know, I can see myself being a Buckeye. That's when Jim Tressel was a head coach, too.

The facilities were insane as well. And then Syracuse, my dad went to, but the program was just so down low at the time. Yeah. And I just kind of wanted to get out of the state of New York. York. I didn't want to go back to basically home where I grew up in Buffalo. So Arizona was just a right thing. Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit? Yes, I do. To where you were, what was it? You were hungover? I was super hungover. So I was a senior. I moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school. So it was an easy trip to go over, you know, to Ohio State when they were

recruiting me. And then all my friends for Buffalo, they were all older than me. And some of them went to the Ohio State University. So I took my official visit there and I went out with my friends the night before the game. And they showed me around. We actually got in a fight, which wasn't surprising. That was my last time I basically brought. I used to fight all the time when I was a senior in high school because I was visit my brothers at the University of Maryland.

And they were just badass motherfuckers, him and his roommates. And they were just brawl every weekend. I would show up and just join the brawes with them. Just a fight club of the University of Maryland. It was on all. Hey, Rob, you want to go get this one in? Did they just tap it up the hands? We literally walk from the bar

and just try to pick a fight on the way home. I was running into people on purpose. And then next thing you know, it was a five-on-five brawl. I was getting thrown down a hill. My brother kicked the guy in the face. Next thing I know I look up the hill and the guy's falling down the hill

that threw me down the hill. But I got in a little fight. It wasn't that big of a fight at the Ohio State. It was just a little, you know, scuffle. But we had a good time. And the next morning went to the game. I think that was Ohio State, versus

I forgot who they were playing but I was hurting look at this guy the guy in the bottom right I was hurting all the waters that I had yeah all the waters I had

did Ohio State did any of the staff know that you had got in a fight the night before no no clue no clue it wasn't that big of a fight it wasn't worth

you know being in the news either it wasn't newsworthy all that water I tried it wasn't really that much new like there's no like phones back then

or Twitter which was the best time I'm so glad none of that shit existed like when I was in college. Like it was an era of like the cell, the camera phones were just beginning when I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to be a superstar in college right now.

You can't like really live a college life. Because everyone has those camera phones. If you go out, you know, to a house party, you're just going to be filmed. Like that's not cool at that age. Yeah. You really can't have that true college experience. And I feel like I was that last era to be able to do all the crazy shit

without ever being on like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter. Plus I wasn't. as good as, you know, I was in the NFL as I was in college. I was a good player, but it's not like, you know, people knew me like that. I could run around college. Yeah, but you chose to leave early, right? Yeah, I left early as well. Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to be able to enter your name into the draft.

Yeah. Which sucked because I didn't even play in my junior year. Really? Yeah, which sucked. I was about the ball out, man. I was ready to go my junior year. Nick Foles was our quarterback. We had a solid team.

We went eight and four that year. My brother was the fullback as well. So it sucked. I couldn't play with my brother and my friends with Foles. We were bawling in the spring game as well. Like eight catches for like 100 in the spring game. And that was the first time that we even played together, Foles and I. And then I just blew out my back, bro.

I had that microdicectomy surgery where I think it was just going to ham in college, lifting, doing all the other extra activities as well. And then I just had major bulging disc. And I just kept going harder and harder on it. And like the harder I went on it, the more numb it would get at that moment. And I was able to go out to practice and live. And then like that night I wouldn't be able to move and the next day I would just go hard on it again And eventually I blew it out totally like I couldn't even feel my legs anymore when I was 19 years old

And then it sucked because I had to get the surgery that and then finally I was like yo my back's fucked up And then I even went out to training camp and got open on the in route ran so slow but the It opened up the defense opened up and I caught the pass turned around like one mile per hour And I walked off the field I was like you I'm fucked like and then we were finally like all right let's get an MRI and my back was blown out. The disc was so herniated on the spinal cord. And then eventually I got the surgery and missed my junior year, which, you know, if I could go back, that's one thing I would do is if I wish I could replay my junior year and play at the University of Arizona.

But I still left early. Still left early. Yeah, so you must have had a good couple of first years then. I did. What was crazy is my freshman year going in. I had six touchdowns, you know, like 500-something yards. I was bawling. but then going into my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate.

You know, it was kind of like the NFL, you know, you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to, you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well. That was more important to me. It was really more important to me. I'm not going to, it was probably just as important as football was to me, was going out and acting like an idiot, you know. Rookie year in the NFL and freshman year at college. I mean, you can't blame me, 18 years old, 21 years old. Yeah, at a place like U of A, too.

And then going into my sophomore year, I'm ready to dominate. I get mono. I get mono somehow. And I can guess. He said I get mono. Yeah. And I had to miss the first three games because they said like, oh, your spleen's blown up, you know, you got to miss. So I missed three games my sophomore year, true sophomore year, came back and played like, what is it?

You missed three? What is it? What is it? 12 games? And the season played nine games, had like 10 touchdowns. and balled out. And then we went to the Las Vegas Bowl, which was my last game.

I played at the University of Arizona. And that was the year my brother and I played together. And he had a great game. I only had like, you know, 20 yards that bowl game. But we won. It was the first bowl game that the University of Arizona even went to in 10 years. And we won it. And then that was my last, last game as a wildcat.

But overall, I played 16 games in college and had 16 touchdowns as an 18-year-old and 19-year-old. That is. Yeah, awesome. So I had enough film to get me, you know, drafted in the second round. When you had the bulging discs and you got the MRI and they're like, you can't even feel your legs, did you think at any point that your career was over? Yeah, I sure did, actually. I went and actually, I was lucky enough I had an insurance policy. My dad got me an insurance policy going in my junior year because I was, you know, I was kind of highly rated, you know, that I could get drafted that year in like the top three rounds. So I had an insurance policy. And I could have cashed out on it actually because they were saying I had spinal.

denosis what is it spinal? I wouldn't know spinal what's that word? Stinosis I'm saying dynosis spinal stonosis and like my spine's curved and there's a lot of question marks on my back and they were like oh like the insurance company was like hey you can never play football again if you get that policy and I was like I was like fuck that I'm playing football that was my ultimate dream I always wanted to be in the NFL I'll just work through this but at some points trying to come back because that was my first surgery like I couldn't really get that pop back because you lose that pop because the spinal core is completely shut down.

And like to get that pop to get that explosiveness back, I was training. I left early. I was training for the combine and right before the combine. I didn't participate in the combine because at that time I didn't even have that pop still. Like I couldn't even broad jump like seven. You just played high school football basically. And then what's the NFL? And then finally, boom, I got it back. And then, you know, I kind of understood the recovery process and all that. And then I was finally like, all right, I can play again. I got this. But there was a little point like, man, I might not ever be able to play a game because, like, you know, that, you know, you never been through that experience, you know.

So I'm glad I got over that fear and over that stage because everything worked out. You didn't even play your junior year? No, not one snap. You know the last game of him officially like as a wildcat, Nebraska. Las Vegas Bowl? No, that was the year I didn't play, brother. Was that versus you? Were you on that team?

I was a freshman. You were a freshman. So that was the year I didn't play. That was a holiday bowl, right? The holiday bowl. We got smacked by you guys. You had no god, the Dominican Siu.

At the time, he went, what, number two overall that year. But that was the year I got hurt. And if I didn't get hurt, we would have waxed your ass, brother. But I think we... Actually, we would have been in the Rose Bowl. Yeah, you go. Dude. Oh, that was in San Diego.

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I was chilling. Yeah, you guys were chilling. When you were real-you-old. I mean, I was showing because I was young. Yeah. You were redshirt. You were redshirt. Do what?

You were a redshirt. This was my freshman redshirt year. Got you. Not my redshirt. Not my retro year, but my second year. Yeah, you're a redshirt freshman year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that was bad.

We got womped. I was there, though. I was there. I didn't play that whole year, man. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks, man. Yeah, you just standing in the sideline.

It's fascinating. I was. I was standing on the sidelines. It's fascinating to me that he got draft in the second round and he only played 16 games in college. And he had back surgery and had all these question marks about it. Didn't participate in the combine. Yeah. Like in the pre-draft process.

Didn't even participate at the combine. I did the bench press. Got 23. It did. Didn't you fall asleep in a draft interview? Yes, with the Patriots. With Bill? With Bill?

Yeah, Bill told this story plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty. But I was so tired, man, because you know that draft process. I think it's the stupidest process as well. Like, you go from team to team. It's like you're on 15 flights in like 15 days getting interviewed by all these teams. And the Patriots were my last one. And I was exhausted.

I fell asleep like the first 10 minutes I got there in the room that they put me in. They're like, hey, we'll be right back. and I fell asleep on the spot when they came back in the check on me. And then I also bombed the interview process, but, like, bombed it in the best way possible. How do you bomb something in the best way possible? All right.

Like, for example, they drew a play on the board, Billio. And then he erased it. He's like, draw the play, what you got? What does everyone have? And it was one of the hardest plays. It's still a route that I still don't even understand. OPEC. It's like the receiver goes up and down back,

like a comeback, and then he takes off again. and he makes another comeback, something, you know, way above my- Sounds like the longest progressing play at all time. Way above my, you know, my skill set. I don't run routes like that. I don't stop, go, stop. He's too big to stop and go. And I was like, whatever.

So he's like, redraw the whole play. And I was like, brother, like, I'm stuck. Like, I, like, ground zero I'm at. Like, and I was like, you know something, though? Just throwing me to fucking ball still. And like, I was like that, like that type of interview. Like, you just say this above my air right now. I thought I would just come up with an insane answer like that.

Yeah, just throwing me the ball still. Just tap them on the shoe. That's all I know. Were you ever, like, nervous in front of these coaches? Because to have that kind of, hey, just throw me the ball anyway. It just screams confidence. I was never really nervous. Because, like, are you standing up at the whiteboard with the marker in hand,

trying to think like, shit, what was the play you drew? And then they're just like, hey. You got a double comeback. He's just talking about. Yeah, I'm going to be honest. I don't remember. But just throw me the ball. It was tough, man.

I was cashed out, though. It was like my 15 visit in like the last 15 days. I was cashed out. You said you had 15 visits of all the visits. Which one did go the best? It was probably about like eight visits or so. 15 was a little exaggerated. That's okay.

But 15, including the combine. Yeah. And I met with 15 teams there. But, you know, I felt like they all went really smooth. You know, I was on point with them all. You know, the Cincinnati Bengals one. I really wanted to be on point because we all knew that they were going to draft a tight end. first round and then they took germane gresham but they were interviewing me like crazy now they had the

21st pick i felt like i i i smacked everything right on the money with all the questions my interviews at the combine i felt like i did a great job and everything uh but just overall just bombed uh new one i'm patriots one like bombed it like in the worst way possible like i said like i like when bill y'all and bill describe how the how the official visits was or it's not the official visit that's in high school how the interview visit went but uh you know and also at the time like there's so many players getting in trouble in the NFL and i remember i call my brother i was like fuck this i'm going to act like a complete idiot i feel like it gets you like more chances you know because there was like five guys that were just arrested and they were signing big deals

in the NFL yeah they're like oh that's a good way to think about it and look at it yeah use that theory, Rob, go. And I did, and it worked. It worked. It worked. I think that was when Pac-Man Jones was getting arrested all the time. Yeah, I mean, it was a crazy time. Yeah.

And then he signed a big deal and I was like, yeah. I was like, if you freaking act like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're going to get picked up. So I went into the interview process like that. And it worked. That is wild. Because you got to be, you got to be nuts. You got to be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well. To some extent, I think it depends on the position.

Depends in the position. Yes. Like if we're a D-end, a tight end, like wide receivers and corners, they have their own, like, cocky personalities or stereotypical cocky personalities. Quarterbacks, I feel like you have to be composed, calm, confident individuals. But yeah. A little weird too. Like the psychotic tight end, yeah. The psychotic tight end is you made a name for the brand.

You walked so the George Kittles could run. Because you got a whole bunch of different guys now. He's still running, bro. crushing. He just got paid big time again. Yeah. What is he? 31, 32?

He's got paid. He's the highest tight average. He's 31 years old. He's well deserved, man. Yeah. 31 getting paid like that. Well deserved. He's got a lot left.

So when you're at the draft, first round goes by, were you like upset at all? Were you like, we knew this was a possibility? No, I was upset. It's, uh, my mom says that there's two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset. I forgot the second. time. We got to give her a call. If she told me, I would remember, like, it would be like that. But she's in that other time was not getting drafted in the first round while I was at the draft in New York City. Did you have all the cameras around you and everything? Not really, you know,

it wasn't really expected for me to go in the first round. It was the first time. I like to say this. I was infamously, you know, drafted as the first player going to New York as the first player getting drafted at the draft in the second round. So. So that's how I look at it as I started that trend. If you go to the draft, it's fine that you get drafted in the second round still. I was the first player to that ever have that happen to. But there was also other ones after me as well that year that got drafted in the second and third round. But, you know, I was ticked off.

I felt like I deserved to go on the first. I was always a goal of mine. But after I got picked by the New England Patriots in the second round and they traded up for me, I thought that was really cool getting traded up for. Like, you know, it's unique and like you feel special about that situation. Once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one single bit anymore that, you know, I wasn't a first rounder. It was a blessing. It was one of the best feelings of all time that, you know, could ever happen to you.

Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go in the first round, what made you decide to still go to, like, New York and be potentially around the cameras and everything when it's a possibility that you might not go in the first round. Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh, I got to be a first rounder because they draft, they actually brought in a lot of other players as well that were expected to go in the second. round so it wasn't like I was going to, you know, feel uncomfortable there. Gotcha. So there was like five other players that didn't get draft again. It was its first year like, hey, we went first rounders and second rounders at the draft. We want to expand it.

We want to show the inside, you know, for both rounds, not just the top 10 picks. So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft. And it was about like 25 guys there. So like 25 guys aren't going in the first round. That's too hard to be able to balance that to know who's going where so I didn't care. I thought it was cool. And being, you know, 20 years old, you know, you look for the spotlight then, you know. And whenever you get an invite, you take it, you know, at that age. Now these days, you pick and choose like, oh, I got to go do that in front of the camera.

You're like, ah, whatever, you know. But when you're 20 years old, you love all those moments. You're never saying no at 20 years old. So I was definitely not going to say no to that situation. And, you know, being at the draft, you know, that as a kid, that's all you looked forward. to you know watching all the players get drafted like that could be me i just got the invite you know i wasn't not going to guys standing up there holding the jersey shaking giddell's hand exactly that's bad ass yeah it is it's awesome really is did you uh did you plan the celebration that you do with your

family because it is it's got to be number one it is epic and you know it's still talked about to this day definitely but that's just how we were you know you know that's how we party that the university of arizona we got around hurrah jump up and down get rowdy all that good stuff and whenever we get together as a family. It was just bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So we knew we're going to be celebrating, but not to the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting my hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in a circle and hoeing all over to play. So that was just on the spot right there. God, that's so awesome, dude. That was cool. It was good, man. You talked about comparing like saying that your off the field life was just as important to you

as on the field. Was that how long did that carry into your NFL career? I would say, just a couple years. I mean, I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number one in my life and that football, you know, needs to be number one. Like, I can't be putting football aside. I can't be putting the training aside just because I want to go out, hang out with the friends,

be busing with the boys at, you know, at whatever college I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early. So after my rookie year, All my friends were still in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which, oh, my gosh, going out there. That place is crazy. Oh, rocking, bro.

I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean, I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at those pictures. So I'm going ham. At least I'm going so ham. I was getting exercise while I was going ham. I was staying in shape.

I was burning at least 1,000 to 2,000 calories. Just dancing. The three, four hour period of going out. But I realize that football has to be number one, though. And football is going to sustain that, you know, that extra activities as well. And so if I keep the football, you know, activities and football, you know, skills at the highest level, everything else is always going to be there. I learned that about two, three years into the league.

What made you come to this realization? Was it a conversation with the teammate, family member? Through experience of showing up to football and being deteriorated. sucking and being out of shape and wanting to puke and feeling like every single one of your muscles are going to spasal them out there on the field or pull and like yeah it's like miserable and you're like yeah I shouldn't be out here right now and you got to work your way through it because you got to show that you know you're doing the proper things you know yeah but uh when when you hit you know real life when you hit that realization out in the field of of it's not going well you know that's

when you know you got to tune things up and you got to change whatever whatever you whatever you're doing. I mean, I'm sure you experienced that before, at least once or twice. The realization that football has to be the main thing? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, everyone has. Pretty young for me because, you know, the hearing about the stories that you have, I just, I think in my head, like, I don't know how I would function as an athlete in college. If I, like, my nightlife was just right there. I put as much into my nightlife as I did football. So I feel like it just wouldn't, I don't know, I feel like genetically it wasn't, it wouldn't have worked for me. Yeah.

Like hearing the way you talk about it, it sounds like you were like practicing and then after practice, you're like, okay, what are we going to do tonight? And for me, like I have partied a lot in college in my first couple years in the NFL. But it was always to me like I'd ask like, in my brain,

I'm like, I'm not going to go out this weekend. Then accidentally all of a sudden, I'd be, it'd be 2 a.m. on a Saturday. And I'd be up at losers or Rick's American Cafe in Ann Arbor. It seemed like you were like, I'm going to do this.

I'm going to work really hard at football so I can go party and get the most out of that. There we go. That's exactly how it went. No doubt about it. And also, going out in the party, it wasn't, you know, throughout the week. It was only one night a week or maybe possibly two nights a week during the offseason. It wasn't an everyday thing.

If it was an every night thing, then I would definitely never be where I am right now. So I always put that work in too. And then sometimes we're in the wait room and we would work harder. We would be pushing each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got to look jack tonight. You know, you got to look good. You got that extra, you know, 20 crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know. extra set of the bench press. So that motivated you.

That got you to where you needed to get to because then you felt like you deserved to go out that night too. So, you know, it was always in back of the mind. But it wasn't like, you know, a daily thing.

If it was a daily thing, I've seen players go through the daily thing where they're going out, you know, throughout the week too. And I always knew, too, as a kid, even in college. I'm like,

no, I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going out during the week. I need my sleep. You know, I need to go to classes, obviously. I need to be ready for practice.

And then I always actually did it when I always knew I had basically had off the next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in the younger generation era, you know, you would do it with practice till the next day at like 10 a.m. or 11 and you would just fight your, you know, fight your life through it. But majority of the time I would know I would have off next day as well to recover, rehydrate and all the good stuff. So I was, I did all the stupid shit the smartest way possible. I feel that. Yeah. You grind it through it even in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, like I remember a couple times where I'd be hung over,

you try to have a late night and you work out the next day. And when I felt like I was on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling the way it did, it'd be like when you're on a knee, listening to your coach talking. I'm just thinking to my head, I got it. I can't do this. Yeah. I can't like continue. Yeah, that's always the second guess.

Because when you go out, you're like, this is going to be awesome. And then when you're peak drunk, you're like, I'm going to power through tomorrow. I'm going to absolutely crush it. And the minute you wake up the next day, you're like, I can never do that again. Yeah. But then it goes like, it's Monday. You're like, I'm not drinking. I'm living my life like a saint now.

Tuesday comes by. You're like just a good old boy. Wednesday, it's like, you know, Friday is right around the corner. And it is a lot of fun. Thursday's like, all right, one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all of a sudden it's Friday, Saturday. And then Sunday you're like, all right. You just hit that timeline perfectly.

Because that's what it is. You always have like the Sunday scariest. You're like, you've rethought your entire life. And you're like, this is it. This is the day I changed who I really am. And then by Friday, You're back to being the same fucking person over and over again. I can't imagine that first offseason you had after your first year in the NFL.

Because in college, it's like back when you played it was you have like a week off at most, right? Two weeks if you don't make a bowl game. Well, the best thing about it too was it was the lockout. So we weren't even allowed to have an offseason that year. So I had a true six months of just doing whatever I wanted to do. So I was going to absolutely bonkers. He really was. And that's when like kind of like videos were starting to surface on the internet of me.

I was back at the University of Arizona with the basketball players. a pool party, just going apes shit. I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college, Miami, Ohio. I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you, a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the atmosphere that's presented there is just phenomenal. And just everything else, I learned what Vegas was that year as well after my rookie year. But this is like, I never had the-

Vegas was. I never had the responsibility of going back in training, you know, up in New England because we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there for the whole six months. And then I ended up, though, showing up and absolutely balling in training camp and having my breakout season where I scored like 21 touchdowns, including the playoffs and like broke every record as a tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to all my dancing and all my partying because I was moving. Staying loose. I'm talking.

My stamina was up there. I was staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body. Every type of motion you could possibly think of twerking to the extreme powers. Like, I swear that's what got me. me through was just non-stop movement, you know, you do the lifting. You know, they say you got to have that base like, you know, the foundation of like your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the little muscles firing. And that's what got me the, you know, keep everything firing at a proper rate was all the dancing and all the movements, throwing your friends up in the air,

on top of lifting as well. When did you? Yeah, when did you? Right. I swear, though. I swear. I mean, I don't really do that, really. I, like, try to go out and, like, I dance for, like, five minutes. And I'm like, how fuck was I dancing for three hours straight? Like, I can dance for five minutes now. I'm like, all right. Like, I can't dance any longer anymore. When did you realize that your party and your antics could become, like, a massive brand?

Because now you have, like, Grong Beach, your brother, you and your brothers, you did the cruise. Like, so you have so many things that are evolved around a lot of things that used to get you in trouble. When did that transition happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money doing. this? You know, it kind of just happened naturally as well. It wasn't like I was doing it as like a scheme or or a play or, you know, to get like notoriety from it. Not at all, man. I was just being myself what what I've been doing since, you know, my college days and going into the NFL. Um, wasn't like, you know, anything was planned ever. I was just doing me and then it just kept blowing up sometimes. And that's why I just kept doing me because I'm like, I'm just doing me. Like,

I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just having fun, you know. And then I really noticed a couple years into it, like, all right, like, this is starting to become something because wherever I went, people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm going out. It's going to be so turned up. But you have the energy when you're in the 20s as well to turn up the whole entire place,

get on the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff. And I noticed that, you know, it could possibly be a brand. Like, it's working, even though I'm just being myself. It's working. It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though, I always knew that balling on the field was what the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was balling on the field. Because he's like, this guy's absolutely fucking balling on the field. But he's going out with all the fans as well and just having a good time and going ham.

And then, you know, eventually, though, I kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know, because it was hard. You know, in your mid-20s, easily with the energy to keep up with it. But when I was starting to fade on the football field, that was becoming hard. off the field too because I was starting to back away from it big time because football was, you know, starting to get away from me and I didn't want football to get away from me. So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle big time. So I would start picking and choosing when I'm going out, how much I'm going out then and all that good stuff because I wanted, you know, to be on top of my game for football. And now to this day, you know, it is a brand, you know, like a party brand.

It really is. But I'm not even close to parting how I was partying back in the day. That 20 year old me, you know, got that brand to sustain all the way to this day. That's how ham I was going though back then. Yeah, and that's how much I was balling on the field. So, uh, you know, it's cool. Like throwing grunk beach, I just pick and choose now. Like grunk beach, I'll go ham, but not like how I used to, you know, um, I don't want to drink as much as I used to either. It's, it's not good for you. It is poison, you know? I can't work out the next day. It takes three days to recover. Um, I'm really into health, you know, Now in fitness, obviously, I've been my whole life.

But I'm always in for a good time. But I'm more of the guy now, you know, that likes to lay back and watch what's going on. And join a little bit of the action, but, you know, not go too crazy. Not like you young self. Yeah, exactly. What were the coaching moments like with somebody like Bill Belichick? You talk about how, like, the Patriot way, how strict he was, how meetings could run. Like in the early days before it becomes a brand, are there any moments you're having

the facility with coach belichick before like becomes a distraction or hey your brand or being more than the team um was there like a transition there because obviously when you become gronkin you're the man you guys are winning super bowls it's a lot more accepted because you know you're the man the patriots are you guys are winning football games but in the early years when you're coming back and these videos are surfacing is there anything happening in team meetings with coach bill uh here's the thing i always knew if i showed up in ball i would be in good hands still i'd be in good faith with the coaching staffing. Coach Belichick let a lot of things go if you were bawling on the field. He didn't care if you were out all night and showing up. As long as you produce on that football field,

he let everything go. It was fine. But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you didn't want to be there. You didn't want to be in that meeting. You're getting called out. You're going to have a one-on-one meeting like, hey, mother, like what the fuck are you doing? I see you out. like you can't even you know come out to practice and get open versus our undrafted free agent like so he would let you know and he would eventually let you know in front of the team too he would call you out uh so that's why like you always had to be on point when you enter that facility and that's why i believe that going to that destination you know kept me on the grind too like yeah the nightlife and whatever you were doing outside of football but the second you stepped in that building like you had that motivation and that grind like oh fuck like i got absolute domination. because I was out, everyone saw it. And if I don't produce on this field, oh fuck, it's gonna be a bad day for me. So that kind of got you to that level mindset,

like that you got a ball. Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he had to check you in a one-on-one or a team meeting? Not really. So Julian and I, we went out Memorial Day weekend to Narragansett. No, not Narragansett. Nantucket, Narragansett's in Rhode Island.

We went out to Nantucket for Fogahui weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We were out of a golf cart. We were in the back. Julian and I doing our thing and the golf cart lifted up in the air, the front tires, you know, we landed on the ground. And it was a video that surfaced the internet. And it was classic.

And I remember the next day, or three days later, we go to, whatever, OTAs, running routes, and Bill came up to us. And we were sweating all over, please. Get all that fucking shit out of your stuff. system. I saw you two idiots this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running. Get it all out of you. So we were balling though. We were out there. But coach always got you to that mindset. Hungover, not feeling so good. When you hit that field, just the aura in New England, that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck is in your system, however you feel, yeah, you better not feel

that way. It's going to get you over it when you hit that field. You talk about the aura of moving? Right there. Is that it? Is that the golf cart? Yeah, right there. There we are. Oh, the back of the golf cart broke.

That's not good. This is like two months before the season. Is it really? Yeah, but Justin Timberlake loved it because that was the same night. Yeah, right there. We were dancing to a song. This is the same night. We were dancing to his song, got to feel it.

What is it? Got a feeling? Yeah, got a feeling? That's it. And we were rocking out. And then he tweeted that the same night. That is funny. Ladies, the Grogh get a playboy.

So shout out to Justin Timber. That's what I knew. All right, I got to keep going. Yeah. You see those dance moves. Now you see why I was getting home. You're staying loose out there. Yeah, you're staying loose.

Look at. Shimmining all over the place. Look at that. What is it, the shuffle? You got something going there for sure. Shimming. The Grogh shimmy. You talk about the aura of New England.

Those first couple of years, like, what was it like for you picking up the playbook, understanding everything and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like how demanding was Tom on you when it came to the playbook and stuff like that? Bro, that's why I didn't play like my first eight games because I didn't really know the playbook like that. I had the skills. I had the talent, you know, but they didn't trust me. I even had some great, you know, highlights in the preseason that year.

I had like three touchdowns, dragged Lauren Nitis into the end zone. You're like, I showed some talent. Like I showed some bursts. I showed like what the type of player I could be. But then like practice would come still and I would be fucking up tremendously. Like I would have five great plays and I would have five. terrible plays. I'd be blocking the wrong guy. I'd be running the wrong route. And when you're at that level, no matter how good you are, if they can't trust in you doing the right thing,

well, you're not going to play in New England. They don't give a fuck how good you are. They're not going to play you. And they let me know that. And the first eight games, I only had about 15 to 20 snaps per game I was playing. And it would only be the true plays that they would trust in me. They say, hey, here's the 20 plays that you know. We trust in you with these 20 plays. We'll call you win personnel when we're going to call these plays. I do like 20 plays a game. And then all of a sudden, I'm, I'm bawling, though. I'm still showing that potential, you know, and they're like,

we're not putting you out on that fucking field until, like, we can truly trust in you. Same with Tom, you know, coaching staff, Billy O, Bill. And then finally, like, I was struggling because the playbook was totally different from college. Like college, I lined up on the right every single play. I had like five routes. You know, we had like five blocking plays, run plays and boom. Like, I learned the playbook in one day. I mean, you get to New England, you got a playbook like that.

You got 55 different formations. I got to line up on the left. I got a line up in slot. There's 50 different calls in the run game. I'm like, 50 different calls in the run game. Arizona, we had five different run calls, you know? Yeah. So I couldn't get up the pace.

And then finally, like, week eight, week nine, all of a sudden, just everything clicked. You know that feeling when you're like, okay, I got this. I know everything in the playbook. Not everything, but like I know enough now. And then I was showing them on the practice field. like, hey, I'm consistent now. I'm bawling. Like, I'm doing the right things.

And then a play, you know, I talked about plenty of times. There's a play versus Chicago Bears versus Erlacker that I had to body him up. And I did it in practice on Friday. And they're like, we're going to call this play. And you got, you better be ready for it. And then it was versus Erlack. I had to, you know, get big on him in the end zone, one yard into the end zone, turn on him, use my body.

And boom, there's a ball. Did it in practice. this replicated in the game versus Erlacker box, box them out. Tom put the ball right there and I caught it. And ever since then, the trust just went through the roof and I played every single play after that. So the playbook, you know, to you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's the first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on the field, you're not going to play. You're not going to be the best player that you can possibly be. So get in the playbook and know those plays.

right from the beginning. What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains your rookie year? He was an asshole in my rookie year. He really was. He was like Mr. Bill Belichick's son at that time. I swear. He was Mr. Patriot at that time. And he was on my asso.

But, you know, I see why, though. You know, I really see why. He saw the potential in me too. I remember one time I ran a flag route and he always wanted me to go outside of the defender. And like, I didn't have the fluidity to. get outside of him when he was like two yards outside of me and try to get open. So I always try to go right inside of him, make a little move and try to get open on the flag route, even though he's playing outside.

And he's like, I'm never going to throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in the meeting room after I went, I went inside on the flag round. But he told me five times already to get outside. At least show that I'm trying to get outside. But I'm like, it was too hard for me at that time. Like I couldn't comprehend it, you know, the way that my body was moving. I just couldn't do it.

And then after he said that, then that kind of clicked in me too, like, oh, fuck, I got to really try to show them that I'm getting outside. And just have a quarterback to be that hard on you at the beginning, though, as a young buck, you know, it can definitely deteriorate you a little bit. But he saw all that potential because then right after he would say something like that, he'd be like, go, stay after me with practice. Let's fucking, let's run this route 20 times. Let's get you on the same page. You have to finally click. I'm going to keep going until you click. So he was really, really hard on me.

but I see why and I respect it to the highest T. And I'm so glad that he was that hard on me as well. Because we would have never gotten to the page and the chemistry that we were at if he wasn't that hard on me. And that's what makes him probably, you know, well, the greatest player of all time because it wasn't his skill set. You know, it wasn't his ability to do, you know, what he does on the football field. It was it was also the ability to bring the best out of his teammates around him. With Tom, it seems like his two main guys throughout his career were like you and Edelman, or just like kind of like his core guys all the time.

At what point did you feel like, all right, I'm really in Tom's pack? Because a guy like that, of that superstardom, Dayton models, marrying the models. Like he seems like he's like one of the first guys in the NFL. It'll be like above the NFL. And for you to be like in that group with him, was there like a moment where you're like, okay, I know I'm Tom's guy now? Kind of that moment, you know, my rookie year. You know, I felt like I got in the pack, like, after that play versus early.

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We had a couple other players as well that I could see that he truly trusted and that he truly looked to. And I would say I truly entered that was my second year when I blossom. And that was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah, having that lack out, but in me going ham for six months straight. But also in back of my mind, football was always there. And I always wanted to be the greatest. And I remember calling my agent, Drew Rosehouse. I said, I'm going to be the greatest fucking tight end this season.

Watch. And he's like, oh, okay. I mean, he's like, you got Antonio Gates. You got Jason Wayne. I'm like, no, I'm telling you. I'm going to be the greatest tight end this year. Like, I had that as a mindset. And I'm going to be on the same page as Brady.

I get what he wants now. And then going into that training camp, everything was just clicking. And I entered that pack of that trust. Because they get that trust from Brady and the coaching staff, you have to be a consistent fucking player. I don't care. You can show a burst of going deep and making an amazing play. But if you can do that one out of every 10,

I mean, you're not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust. So I showed that trust going into my second year. And then that's when it just all truly started clicking. And it lasted for 10 more years straight. How did that, was it always respect from Tom when he's hard on you in those moments like your rookie year? Are you thinking like, yo, this dude's a fucking asshole?

I thought he was... So where you're kind of resistant to like, hey, let's stay after practice and do 20 reps. And you're just like, fuck, man, all right. No, I thought he was an asshole for sure at first, you know? I'm telling you, he was Mr. Patriot, my rookie year. Like, like, he was Bill 2.0. I swear, like, I'm like, man, this guy's zero fun.

Zero fun. Like, zero. Like, uh, but, um, but I kind of understood it. at the same time. Not to the full extent, you know. But once you're in the, like once you're growing, you're progressing, you're getting better. You're thinking, all right, this is the, this is where I need to kind of buy it.

Yes. And then once I bought in, too, he loosened up as well. Like, he just wanted me to buy in and get rid of all that bullshit that was going on on the outside or me not paying attention in the meetings or me not doing what I need to do out in the football field because he saw it in me. Like he sees, he sees potential in players. He knows players inside and out. Like he can watch film, Tom.

He can break down a player's strength. He can break down their weakness. He can break down how to get open versus what you got to do. He can even break down a defense alignment, like and know their strengths and how to block a defense alignment. He knows the game of football like that. And that's what made him so great, obviously. So he knew what I needed to do out on the football field. And when I started finally doing it, when I started clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand, that's when that relationship really blossom.

And he, you know, he was less hard on me. I mean, still to this. day he's hard on his players. I mean, even once you get that relationship going, because he wants that relationship to keep building, you know, but it wasn't like my rookie year, you know, the rookie year was tough at some points. But I saw why, and I'm, I'm so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that. I needed it. Put it that way. I needed it. How hard were they on Julian Edelman? I just listened to Bill Belichick on the pivot. And it seems like they were extremely hard. Coach Belichick was extremely hard on Julian when he got to New England.

Well, he was a year before me, so I didn't really see his rookie year like that. That dog has not sleep at me. Ralphie's a good boy, though. He knows we're working. He knows we're working. He feels safe. Yeah, he feels safe. He's just relaxing.

That's a good boy right there. But later on, if we keep going, he'll eventually let us know, like, hey, hey, motherfucker, humans. Hey, motherfucking humans, it's my turn. Throw me the ball. But he's a good boy. But Julian was absolute dog. And they love getting under his skin. If you got under Julian skin, it brought the best out of them.

And I would say same with myself, you know. And that's why they were hired on players there. Coach Belichick knew how to get into players' minds, even if it was in the most asshole way. You know, that's why we respect it so much and we appreciate it, you know, to this day. Because he was really trying to make you the best fucking player that you could possibly be. And he was trying to bring the best out of you. And he sure did it.

Even though whatever way he was doing, it you know it could have been vicious you know could have been like you i'm about to trade you like he could have just been making it up and then you would go absolutely balls you know out on the practice field and then game so he knew how to bring the best out of players especially the ones that he knew wanted it and julian was a guy that wanted it and he brought the best out of julian and whatever techniques he was doing to get under julian skin dude you uh i mean obviously receiving wise that's where you get paid it's probably the most fun for you but from a blocking standpoint you see so many clips of you like throwing a chip buck on a trail sucks and extending him into the bleachers

the safety from the colts on the goal line sending him all the way to the sidelines stuff like that tell him no white t-shirts in the club where did the mindset come with the blocking was it always really important to you or did you learn early like this is how you become like a complete tight end no it was always important to me ever since my high school days playing football I always just took pride in the blocking game I really did I remember in high school it was before like all the blindside blocks, you know, got banned, which was a good thing, you know, what I'm talking, those crack, black blocks. You took more pride in high school when you absolutely leveled someone than, say, scoring a

touchdown. I'm talking the touchdown was cool. You celebrated, but the whole sideline would go absolutely bonkers if you took someone up and just planted them on the ground or you blindsided someone and just flat blacked them and basically put them in the hospital. So that mindset was always there to just be the biggest dog, to be the strongest dog out in the field and to be tossing people around.

Tossing people around felt like the manly thing to be in the game of football. Yeah, catching touchdowns was cool. That came with it, but that wasn't what you wanted to showcase. It was how far can you take someone and just embarrass them and just show them who the fuck is boss. So that started, you know, in high school. I maybe say it would say as a kid, though, that toughness

because I was getting beat the shit out of from my three older brothers and their friends at all times. And they would pick on me and I would just come right back at them. So that mindset started then. And then in high school, my senior year, I only had eight catches my senior year in high school as a tight end. And we ran the ball 52 out of 52 plays one time. And it didn't matter because we were dominated. We won the game like 30 nothing. I would just take guys, drive them back five yards, plan them.

I one time in high school, picked up a guy, brought them off the sidelines, 10 yards and threw them. over the fence. It was kind of like the play, the Sergio Brown play, but instead I took the guy up in the air at 10 yards and threw him over the fence. This one right here. And we, yeah, just like that one. But then I took the guy and threw him over the fence in high school. And we just took so much pride in that. Like it wasn't about catches, wasn't about touchdown. So that translated into college and everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns. I was the guy when it came to whatever, seven on seven. What's it called when you nine on seven nine on seven run period that i'd be showing up and it was all about how how

how bad ass can you be in the run game and how you know how hard can you block the dn and make a hole for your running back dude there is something about having a tied end that knows how to do like a tray block or a triple block and knows where the right fit is where to put his hands it makes your life so much easier it's the best feeling dude yeah and to this day you know when people show my highlights i don't give a fuck like the catching highlights and touchdowns. I'm like, cool, whatever. I won't even look. I'll be like, that's cool.

But when I see a blocking play of mine, I fucking rewind that thing every time. Yeah. You get a rock card on just watching that. I remember Stephen Ridley. He was running back, my good friend. He beat Kevin Hart in a race like two years ago, and Kevin Hart blew out his hamstring.

So the NFL, do you guys remember that a little bit? No, he blew out his abdominal. And then the NFL was, you know, showed, oh, ex-player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart in a race. Kevin Hart blows abdominal. So then what do they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's highlights

and they put them up on NFL.com or whatever, their Instagram page. And guess what? There I was blocking. And I sent it to Ridley, I said, look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I love the blocking highlights. And I'm like surprised with myself because I don't really remember like, it was just a natural thing I would do, you know? and I didn't really notice how important it really was.

It was just part of my personality. Like, that's what I did. I blocked. But when I go back and I watch me block, like when I was in my heyday, like the first four years, man, I was fucking tossing motherfuckers, dude. And I didn't really realize it that I was really doing it like that.

Like, I was doing it like that. So I'll always rewind a block and I'll always make sure that people see all the blocks when they're up on the TV screen. Catch us whatever. With the game, were you a guy that like talk shit during the game or you kind of just keep to yourself and if somebody talks shit to you, you'd turn it up on them a little bit. There we go.

I love when people talk shit to me, like brought me to a whole other level. And that's what happened with the Sergio Brodick. That's what I was going to ask next. The whole entire game, just yapping at me. We're friends. Like, we were friends. Like in New England. I'm like, bro, like, I'm getting open on you guys too.

And we're dominating you put just kept going and going and going. And finally he just triggered me. And I just was like, I'm the next block and play I get. I'm going to just fucking keep going and going and going. How long was that? I'm going to get him when I get the chance. Yeah. He was just chirping.

He was chirping the whole time. Yeah. And there was Daibel. You saw Daibel there. He had coached the Giants now. He loved it too. There he is. Right there.

Davel. Oh, he was. He's chirping. Oh, yeah. Good shit. Gunk. How many plays? So this guy's chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever.

How many, how long after was that block for you? Well, you're like, okay, I'm going to take this kid to the absolute sidelines. Oh, I was going. I didn't care. I knew the play was over, too. Like I saw the running back scored a touchdown. Oh, shit. What's the name again?

He had three touchdowns. game in like 250 yards you just had like 50 running backs yeah no yeah and then we cut him like two weeks later because uh jonas yeah jonas love him though jonas great i love like so many running backs i just couldn't think of who it was you guys had a shot of running backs i saw him score right behind me too and i was like fuck this i'm still going i was just over him he was just talking the whole time and i just like i'm gonna i'm just gonna go until he collapses and then boom finally got that juice is right that right there is why i never wanted to talk shit Yeah

just to like if you're going against a good player You're just I'm always like complimenting I'm complimenting their rights Hey great hey great this Yeah I hated that I'm like this guy's too nice Like I don't want to get over it's not only It's not always it's not only

It's when you have a lax Just like hey You're playing a hell of a game out here Just to like You never want that trigger To go off on somebody Because you just never fucking know You ain't trying to be on a highlight

No I feel you I mean you're you're wrong How do you feel about this Oh man look at that That's a solo That's you 51 correct Yeah, you got me. Solo tackle.

But that's a nice flat route, though. Look at the speed I had back then. I wish I had that speed still, though, man. Look at me to come out of the back. Was that coming out of the backfield or was that just a flat route at the tight-out position? Yeah, I'm flying right there. See, I out-angled you. That's how fast I was back then.

That should have been. If you were playing true technique football as a linebacker, that should have been a two-yard cat. You're 100% right. I just beat the zone there. I think we were a man there. Yeah. So it makes it even worse. This is the worst.

But you made up for it. You made up. Oh, right there. Look at it. Should have only been four yards. But Will couldn't close the gap fast. Holy shit. I'm on the same page still.

And that was June 23rd, 2003. All right. So that wasn't that long ago. But still. But he made up for it. That was a nice tackle. He got me one on one. There's a lot of other men have failed trying to do this.

Oh, 100%. There's a photo where. it's captured from from rob's angle to where it looks like he just I mean he does stiff armie but it looks like they have a great angle to where that should you get like posterized for getting stiff armed now I know I know Gronks a guest on our show

but if you're in man coverage are you fearful of this man because he's not like it wasn't the shiftyest guy in the world and you had some speed back then this is a young well he's massive big as fuck yeah I wasn't shipped you know yeah you know he uses stiff arm well yeah absolutely oh yeah there it is look at that pick

oh man you still got me I still got me I see that picking on with tough people don't know. You got to break that down. You got to break that down. And I got to chop. I was on the sideline, so I knew that you had sideline help, so I didn't really try in my heart. I was like, I'm not.

I mean, you had sidel. I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted to pad my stats. Yeah. Was there a, it works for both of us. First down, but you got to tackle. Solo tackle, too. Right. Pull on the film.

But we got to fix the angle here a little bit. But hey, way to get him down when he got them. A lot of guys fail on that step on. A lot of guys failed. I want to ask, I gotta ask. You were the same position group, same age. What was it like around Aaron Hernandez? I was just gonna get into that.

Oh, really? Like in your mind, are you like all the stuff that comes out about him now, like going back to those moments around them, are you kind of thinking your head? Like, I'm not in this world too much, but there's like some shit that this guy's into off the field that I don't necessarily even want to know.

Because there was, we heard stories about like him being in the team meeting room, like beating off and like doing crazy shit. I mean. And honestly, if you don't want to, Talk about we don't have to. Possibly. That's a possibility that one. I may or may have not seen it live. No shit.

Yeah. I'm not going to conform. At the time, you're just thinking to yourself, man, this guy really loves ball. Nor deny. But,

I mean, I love crazy shit, though. So, like, I didn't mind things like that. I was like, wow,

like, that was pretty epic. Like, I was a wild man myself. So, like, I, I was like, nothing phased me. I was like, I encouraged it.

But like never, I mean, I mean, first off, unbelievable football player, man. You're talking about the playbook, me struggling with the playbook? That guy knew the plays inside and out, the run game and past game. And like the first two weeks being in New England, while I struggled with it all the way until like week eight, you know. And he was bawling right from the beginning. He was a basketball player out on the football field. That's what he was with his size. He could run.

He was, at one point, he was lining up at running back and having 30 plus yards runs while I was black. I mean, you guys could be a 12 personnel and be in any type of formation. Yes. Yeah. You're the best combination at the tight end position of all time. And that second year proves it. I mean, we had like, what, 2,300 yards combined and like 28 touchdowns between just him

and I, including playoffs and regular season. That's unheard of. Like, ain't, there ain't no other tight-end combo ever going to have 1,500 yards combined, like, ever. again possibly or maybe like 1,600 yards. So we went like 2,800 and like 28 touchdowns, which is just absurd. But there's a lot of craziness, definitely, but I didn't mind it. Like I said, I loved it. And then I didn't see, you know, it going to the level that it went to. I didn't see that happening. Like that was a surprise. It was a surprise to everyone because you would never expect anyone you know especially be in that position to have it go to the level that it went to and you're

learning about this stuff with when all the whether it's documentary shows coming out about it you're learning that then and you're like fuck i didn't really know it was that bad uh i didn't know it was that bad i mean i i knew that you know there was definitely some wild size to him but uh with everything coming out there's some that i would say is true in the documentaries that come out there's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit, but there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm not going to talk about, like, what topics it was and everything. But, uh, I mean, it was wild, man. I, I was the guy that was truly there throughout his whole career, like in the same room, the whole entire time is him. But, uh, it's unfortunate, though, what happened, because the talent was just,

just through the roof, man, through the roof. And if we could have kept our tandem going, yeah, we would have been just truly unstoppable. But, yeah, that's really all I got on that. Yeah. Yeah. Saw some of it, but you didn't know it was like to that extreme. And not surprise either now, either. Like, it's like, okay, that makes sense now.

Yeah. Yeah. When you guys were at practice, he got charged when you guys were at practice or like, like you guys practiced that day, correct? No, it was an off season. It was actually, it was, yeah, it was during the summer when no one was actually at the facility. And what, like, when, when, when you found out.

Were you like at first like there's no way this is possible or were you like I said that that's a tough question to ask What was your thought process when you heard he was charged? Well He didn't get charged until like after the fact that it all came out. Correct? Yeah So like when I first kind of like what was the thought process when I first heard about you know the situation the real situation where it was like all right. This is trouble you know surprised shot big time sad a little bit like no like no way like

also disappointed you know like why would you do that like like what's going on we got the whole world in front of us we got the world by the balls especially you know you and I as a tandem like we got the best team out there everything so it was shocking

you know it was sad as well you know once once you really realize what truly happened yeah yeah man how was Bill Belichick, aside from what you get to see, whether he's in press conferences, the coaching side, the art of winning book, like, what's he like kind of off the field or away? Because I think there's a story where he showed up hammered to Randy Moss's one of his costume parties or like a Halloween party. Yeah, like, what's another, what's a fun side of Bill Belichick?

All right. Here's something that a lot of people really don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know, and he's always got that serious face in team meetings. but every once in a while, like once every two weeks, he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger, bro. I'm talking banger. And he would actually have a smile on his face right after. He would just drop some knowledge or some, you know,

over-the-top joke that just landed every time with the team and everyone would just be on the ground, let's fucking die and laughing. It was so, it was always vicious too. The joker or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he came in with that, it always lighten the mood. It was every, it was once in the,

a blue moon, but when he did do that, man, it was good shit. We all appreciated it. You ever get to, you ever party with Bill? He ever partake in the Grancowski dances? Actually, he showed up to the first Grunk Beach ever when I first retired. It was in Miami. It was at that Super Bowl, like five, six years ago. He showed up to that Grunk Beach, which was really cool. But other than that, he was there for like five minutes. He's like, yeah, this is it really for me. Yeah. Yeah, we were going. Just him showing face. I bet meant a lot. Him showing face really did mean a lot. He'll get the shirt off. Let's go. Yeah. He's great, but I think he loves the party scene more than ever right now, actually.

Yeah, he's going to have parties. I mean, he's not like he's rocking out. I mean, but he's there, you know, he's doing his thing. And, you know, he's loosened up big time ever since he left being a head coach in the NFL, which is cool to see. Were you surprised about that, him loosening up after he became a head coach after he left the NFL? Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra even like going on to whatever, you know, he was going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels.

But like on the outside of everything else, I was definitely surprised when he started joining, you know, social media. You know, he joined the media game and he was more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more when he was making all his appearances on all the shows that he was on. But it was really good to see. Like, I was happy for him. And, you know, it was a different side that everyone got to see too. But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate, too. knows the game of football inside and out better than anyone else out there. What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff with knowing coach Belichick

as this no-nonsense coach and seeing all the like theatrics that have kind of came with on the outside looking in like with him at North Carolina. A guy that's all about eliminating distractions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So that's a little surprising to me because he was all about eliminating distractions. And like it's kind of, I mean, we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not because well, no, in the win-loss column this year.

If he wins every game or puts up eight wins this year at UNC, well, then there was no distractions at all. The distractions sometimes sometimes it fuels him. I mean, how much, you know, crazy shit did he deal with in New England from, you know, Tom's things, to Hernandez, to me, you know, in some situations to just a lot of other things that were going on. And we would just go out there and win constantly at a, you know, at a rate that's never been seen before and win Super Bowls.

Even though there was things going on the outside, you know, that didn't, you know, that we're trying to distract us but wouldn't get to us because we would block it all out. But still, if there was something going on and it was just like just bickering, you know, at the team and like everyone had to deal with it, he would kind of say something, you know, like, hey, kind of like amp it down a little bit, you know. You'd have the one-on-one media. Yeah, like, this is going on. Like, can you just kind of diffuse the situation? So I kind of feel like he's not diffusing the situation at all when it could be diffused a little bit more. And it's becoming a distraction to the whole entire program at the University of North Carolina a little bit. So it kind of goes against that.

But like we said, he's also loosened up tremendously. And he's kind of a, you know, change, you know, personality since being a coach in the NFL. but just overall, I think like football needs to come. Once football comes, you know, I'm excited to see how all that goes, you know. I'm kind of getting annoyed about all these other things that talked about with Bill right now. It's like, let's see this guy coach, you know? If this guy dominates, well, then let it be. Yeah.

And if he loses out right from the beginning and he's one and three, that could be a serious problem. Yeah, if he starts out one and three, you need to fly up to North Carolina and have a one-on-one meeting with him. We got to eliminate these distractions. I'll have a university of North Carolina hire me as like the fucking president of all sports. Yeah, just so I could be his boss and sit down. Don't tell Bill, but hey, the president wants to meet you. You're in there and be like, go sit down. I'm your boss.

I'm sorry, brother. Him, Gron, Tom, and Edelman all fly in. All above them too. They all have to be above them. Bring it to a meeting room. Eliminate the distractions. Come on now. What are we doing out here?

Yeah. Yeah. You want to win or not? Like that's what we got to focus on. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. Yeah. We'll see what happens. One and three.

I'm going for him, though. I'm pulling from the win. I mean, it'll be great for football. It'll be great for college football. Yeah. It'll be like the Dion effect, you know. Yeah. Like how much better?

Like no one watched Colorado. It's like no one watch UNC. Like everyone tuned in. Everyone will be tuned into UNC for sure. When Tom and Bill end up breaking up, Tom, you go with Tom to Tampa Bay. From your vantage point, what did you see happening there on the end of inside between their relationship. Because you were saying in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as baby Bill

Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially. And then they get to the end. You hear about how they're not really getting along. Culturally, they think that they're going different directions. Tom inevitably, you guys lose to the Titans in 2019 ending your dynasty. And then we- I was retired. You're right. That's why I ended the dynasty.

Do you think so you would have won that game? What do you, what did you see happening? between them and that breakup? Well, yeah, like I said, I mean, I was surprised. I mean, if you go all the way back to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different mindset or positioning that Tom was in. Like he, like I said, he was like Bill Belichick's son, my rookie year. But I would say, I mean, I really can't talk for Tom or Bill, like on how the relationship.

But I would just say what kind of really happened was that Tom was probably growing older, you know, and was like, you know, wanting to freelance more, I would say, doesn't have to be treated like a rookie. And it was still going on. And I would say he was getting over that situation, even though it was kind of like that, you know, my rookie year. Yeah. And he was, you know, guys 35 years old now, 36 and doesn't need to be treated like.

Arguably the goal. Yeah, probably already the greatest of all time. It doesn't need to be treated like a rookie, you know. And I would say the tension started feuding over things like in that situation between them two. That's kind of like how I saw in a way. And then eventually neither of them were going to, you know, you know, Twitch or like bend the knee to the end. Or bend the knee. So the tension just started heating up, I would say.

And eventually, you know, the divorce happened. But our details or what they were truly thinking, you would have to ask. one of them, but from an outside perspective, like, player, I would say that's kind of how the case, you know, kind of started and ended. When those topics are getting talked about in the media, is it when we're like, oh, yeah, this is going to come to the surface sooner or later? Yeah. And then it's also like, wow, it took that long for it to come to the surface as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the media is right. It's like, wow, it took them that long, but then sometimes it's like, wait, they're already way ahead of the game. How did they already know that? It was that that was already coming to the service. they would come up with something that wasn't even up to the surface and it was never going to come

up to the surface. But there's some things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long and you're surprised, you know, now with media these days, when media doesn't catch on to something, it takes a while to get out, you're surprised with that. Yeah. What were the conversations that took place to get you out of retirement and into Tampa? Well, everything had to, you know, check out for me. It wasn't just one situation that was going to, you know, get me out of retirement. First off, I had to be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know, those last two years in New England, and it was getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis. Like the Sunday game, I couldn't recover until like Saturday, the following Saturday,

and then to practice and all that, it was just becoming miserable. I mean, everyone experiences that, and that's why everyone retires eventually. Because if you weren't experiencing that and you experiencing the joy of like playing like when you were 23, why do you fuck would you retire? You know what I mean? So when it starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when you want to walk away from the game. And that's what I did. But, uh, I was really beat up too, but I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving, you know, throughout your whole career. I involved, found different situations, you know, to recover.

Also different workouts, you know, that can keep me on top of my game. Also kind of needed a different scenario, you know, different program, you know. So when Tom went to Tampa, we just talked about it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I love Florida. Totally different organization. Felt more laid back. Definitely put the work in, but still more laid back like a country club.

They wanted me as well Tampa It wasn't just Tom wanted me The organization called me up to and they're like yeah We definitely want you Be a part of the Buccaneers family I was feeling good as well And felt like I had more left in the tank So every box checked off

And then obviously with Tom going down there To have that chemistry and just to keep it going In the new program So everything just you know Pled my way And I pulled the trigger to do it And there were It seems, it sounds like they're willing to, like, uh, cater around your expectation,

what you wanted physically to, like what your body needed, what you needed as, how old are you at this time? I was, uh, 30 years old. Yeah, it's like a 30 year, uh, three year old tight, tight end was back in New England when you decided to retire, you talk about the joy and it just, um, you hated showing up to work. Was a lot of it to the expectation and the stress that would come with the organization of the Patriots, like the standard that had lived and they expected you to live by. When you're like, hey, I feel like my body would.

respond better doing this or I feel like I should be doing this workouts because a lot of times you butt heads with those third party sources that we all use outside of the facility and then you try to implement them inside and the whole the whole eagle battle kind of like butts heads yeah you hit right on the money bro you uh I mean like you said you played for a while so you understand that and every player kind of goes through that experience too but uh in a way like I like hey it's us the Jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news we our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

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Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In New England, like, coaches never gave off anyone from practice. But, like, at end of my career, I was like, I can't be playing in a game on Sunday and practice full-speed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. like I'm blocking guys. Think about what I'm doing.

I'm running 35 routes a game as well, like a wide receiver. And I'm trying to block three, you know, 300 pounders sometimes, D-Ns that are 260 pounds, linebackers that are running all over the place on a continuous basis every single place. So my energy and effort and output is higher than anyone else out there on the football field. If you really think about it because of the routes I got to run and also the being shaped blocking. And I just couldn't recover anymore. Like Wednesday would come and I wouldn't even want to hit any.

in the 9-9-7, I'll be like, yo, like, I'm just going to put my hand in front of you, you know? Like, I didn't even want to hit. Like, that's a bad feeling. You don't want to get hit and you're playing the game of football. But, like, if I took off, like, by, like, Thursday or Friday, like, I was able to do it again, like, have that mindset, like, oh, I'm ready to hit. But, like, no one would get off in practice or anything. So it was getting tough, like that mentality, that aura in New England.

Like, I wanted a day off of practice and all that. But it was just tough. And it was tough to ask for it, too, because of the. expectations. Right. So when I got the Tampa, you feel like you're letting the team down. You feel like exactly. But when I got the Tampa they were kind of known like, hey, we're going to, we give vets a day off.

Like, you got to be truly proven though. Like, and I was proven at that time and I was like, can I at least get one day off a week? And every, in training camp, every three days, I get off to. And they were down for it. They were down for it. I bet you could have probably negotiated more. Coming out of retirement. Yeah. You'd been like, yeah. I didn't need more, though. But also with the mindset of coming from New England,

you kind of feel like you're letting the team. down as well if you're taking off too much, you know, especially if you're not injured or, you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool with it with my mindset because I truly knew that I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me off every Friday, my two years in Tampa, which I'm thankful for, which, you know, I put the work in, you know, Wednesday, Thursday. But I truly believe that's what got me to play and got me, you know, to be able to play at the level I play. It wasn't the highest level of football that I could possibly play out like I was,

but like to play at the highest level at that age and where I was, taking off that Friday to at least make an impact on the field. Right. Well, it got you that incentive too. Yeah. Because there was that clip that came out of you going up to Tom being like, hey, I need one more. Yes.

And so you guys were pulled out of that game, correct? And you're like, I need to go back in. Yeah, well, we were, we were whopping him. It was like the third quarter. We were up like 35 nothing or 357. And so they pull out of starters. But Tampa's cool, you know. They're cool like that.

They want you to make all the possible money that you can make. Our offensive corner of Byron left, which always said in the meeting, there's two things that you take away from football on the end. He goes, it's your relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the two things that stick with you forever. And he says, so going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously the most important thing is to win the game. But if we're up and you need an extra catch, we're going to get you that extra catch. We're going to get you that money. That's awesome.

So we're winning. pulled all the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to get one more catch. We drew a play right on the, right on the sideline. Hey, Rob, motion to cross. You're just going to run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you and boom. Motion across. I actually, uh, false started, but they didn't get called where you lean forward a little bit.

Yeah. That's called. What's that called again? What's the penalty? A legal motion. Yeah, but you, uh, where you accidentally move forward a little bit on the motion. That's a penalty. You're not allowed to move forward.

Yeah. Is that just a false start then? It is a false start, but there's a name for it. I can't think about it right now. I did that actually, but they didn't call it because it was the game was just way out of reach. Ran that diagonal. Boom. Tom hit me.

Was that 700? It was, uh, it was, uh, my, I needed, I think like 55 catches or something. That was my 55 catch to hit my last incentive in my contract. Yeah. So Tampa was cool, cool like that. Yeah. Did you ever have incentive based stuff in your contracts in New England? Yes.

Never. Did you ever miss one? Uh, my last. year in New England, I basically missed them all. But my second last year, New England, I hit them all. Did you really? Yeah. So I bet on myself again going into that last year, but halfway through, halfway through, I didn't even care about them anymore. I was just like, I got to survive. I'm just trying to survive here. Yeah. What was, what was it the most on you towards the end? Like, you're from your body standpoint. I had to survive this. It was a shoulder,

was your back active again? It was inflammation in my body, bro. Insert Adam Bobo. Yeah, inflammation dude like it wasn't anything nag while my back was nagging a lot but I was inflamed but like like I still have it to this day a little bit like if I go ham one day two days later like I can't move like I'm inflamed like I'm slow I kind of actually have it a little bit today I haven't worked down like two weeks I did a hardcore yoga like 48 hours ago exactly and like I didn't go too hard in it because I knew I was coming on but when I get inflamed like I'm slower like I can't run as fast and I was like I couldn't recover. fast enough and get rid of that inflammation, even though I started finding ways to do it,

it's just at that rapid rate and I was so far behind, that just that slowness, just that, not that burst anymore. You don't have that quickness either anymore. And it just doesn't want to make you get hit either. Everything hurts then too. So inflammation was, you know, my biggest killer, I would say. Is there a story outside of what you've already talked about in past conversations where you were going to get traded to Detroit? You threatened to retire. They'd don't trade you. Yeah. But was there a story behind the scenes about how the organization was kind of

of handling your situation that isn't known or that you haven't kind of talked about? Because everybody's aware that you did the whole threaten to retire. They don't trade you. You're back in New England. Well, that was a tough year. We lost to the Philadelphia Eagles that year, actually, in the Super Bowl after the comeback versus the Falcons. So we went back to back Super Bowls.

We were actually almost three Peter. We went to three Super Bowls in a row. But we just lost the middle one versus the Eagles. But that year was tough, man. I'm talking just the aura of the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season. I'm talking like any player. Like it was just weird, but we were dominating.

We were still winning. And we went to the Super Bowl. But just overall, it was, it was tough. And what was the question again? About when they were going to, they were going to trade you to Detroit. And then you threatened to retire. Now I say that's why I was bringing that up. So that whole year, so then I was being an asshole after that year.

You know, like they were trying to get a hold of me. I wasn't answering anything. I was saying shit in the media. I was just being a complete asshole. And then I'm with Monster Energy. And Monster Energy has Monster Jam. And in New England at Gillette Stadium. And I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization.

I was kind of vocal in the media. Like this year sucked. Like kind of shit like that. Like miserable here. Like I was one of those guys. Like that was like the aura of when everyone was saying it sucks to play in New England. Like there was those at one or two years. That was when the Eagles.

players were going to the parade and like ripping on the organization like yeah I was one of the guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year like it was just a tough year just overall so then I was being an asshole I go to Monster Jam and I have to have a press conference there and it's all the full like for my monsters like hey like you got to do the appearance at Monster Jam and I was like oh shit I was like this ain't gonna go over so well so I show up to the press conference and the whole uniform like I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the helmet on I go up to the press conference and they just start asking me football questions right away and I'm just giving fucking blatant like asshole answers back and then a week later is when I get the phone call and finally I answer

hey we're going to trade you and I never wanted to get traded actually I knew it was going to come down to this though because of what I was doing it was the counter reaction you know the organization was doing back to me like oh he was being asshole well we're going to get rid of them and that's when Patricia was the head coach at the Lions too. And he's like, all right. Well, I'm going to grab Gronk then. I'm going to trade for him. And I got the call.

I got traded. But I was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone call was going to come. I knew I was going to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going to trade you to the Lions. I said, you can't trade a retired player.

Yeah, right on this spot. I was like, can't trade me. I'm retired. Like, I just retired. Like, you can't trade my agent. It's like, you're a genius, Drew. He's like, I never bet in this. situation before and then finally I they bill was like well then what the fuck's the problem I went in we

hash everything out uh I was like the train never went through then it got axed and actually it would have been through if I said no problem but uh ended up playing one more year knowing I was like I was like business isn't done like I'm just being an asshole a little bit business not done let's do one more year I'm so glad I went back I was actually about to retire though too I was really thinking about it but I didn't feel right going to another team not at all I was like I'm not going with another team I'll do another year in New England and we ended up winning the Super Bowl and that was my last game in New England winning that Super Bowl I think 53 in Atlanta versus Los Angeles Rams and added with that catch up the middle the 28 yard bomb up the seam to the

two-yard line and then Sony Michelle ran the ball right behind me in for the only touchdown of the game so it all worked out in the end yeah what made that year with Philadelphia so hard was the expectation coming off the the prior Super Bowl uh no I was beat up a little bit still my body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But just aura. Yeah. Yeah. It was that, no, the last year going in was a lot better than that Philadelphia season.

I remember everyone just was pissed. Yeah. I remember. I mean, it's just hard to explain. Like what, like, what, like, why? Like, you just had to be a part of it. Yeah. Yeah.

Dude, off the field. Let's go. I like off the field shit. You've done a lot of cameos. Yes, I have. Entourage. family guy the clapper it sounds like a venereal the clapper

uh the simpsons when he was in the comedy that's why they beat us so bad in the holiday bowl we were staying away from them yeah these guys have the clap but dude you've done you've done all of these different sponge bob square pants got to stay you guys say that for like jop square pants still gives me residual checks for like two grand like no shit every like four months dude i mean the show is yeah i love and i'm like when did i do sponge bob square pants i remember i sang though like birthday song in one of the

episodes, I still get residual checks from it. That is fucking awesome. Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like the thing you were most excited for, now, do people call you and be like, hey, we want Grong to do this cameo? Or were you ever like calling your age of me and like, I heard this movie's coming out, I heard the show, I love the show, how I met your mother, I want to be a part of this. Kind of both, you know, especially at first, I wanted to be a part of cameos. Like I wanted to live that lifestyle.

Like I said, I wasn't saying no going to the draft. any uh that movie with jamy fox was at any given sunday or right i love that movie like i'm like i want to live like that they were part in the locker room after doing all that good shit you know i wanted to live like a movie so i was just telling my people like oh i'll do any appearance and whatever movie and then my very first one actually basically was the entourage movie loved entourage growing up as a kid wanted to live my life like that when i was in uh high school and i told my friends in high school too i'm gonna be on that show one fucking day watch and that and that And I ended up getting in the movie, which was really, really cool.

And definitely, I would say that was one of my favorite appearances. Because what's funny is I was right in my prime of party. And so I actually got to this set and I started taking shots with everyone because it was like 11.30 p.m. at night. And I was going out that night. So I started getting hammered on the spot. And in the scene, I'm partying in the scene. So it worked out perfect. Yeah.

I was actually hammered for that scene right there. Was that, was that line ad-lib when you stood up and screamed? No, no, they gave it. to me. But I took it to another level. Yeah. Yeah. With his shoulder two and a sling is just crazy. I was super handicapped. I was actually coming off the knee injury, so I was

actually had an, you know, ACL surgery three months prior to that, but then we also put the arm brace on like my arm was still freaking broken. Yeah. I was had a cane as well. It just just went along well. What was it like seeing Vinnie Chase and Johnny Drama and all those boys? After watching that show for so long and being able to see it. them it was the best dude i love them to this day i see him at charity events and everything and seeing drama i love drama uh his character and just drama as well as a person dude great dude

it was the best uh to be us be a part of it you know the dream come true yeah dream come true dude all this stuff there we are all this stuff we are wow what pictures right i know right there's the set the door on that's so fucking young rob mhm a hontrose really was that show that if you watched it you wanted to be Vinnie Chase you'd be like how do I have the ability to live this life well Vinnie Chase was like too pretty and like I knew I couldn't be Vinnie Chase I was kind of like

I just wanted I just want to have a group like that you know group of boys that group of boys like that because I was kind of like Vinny Chase but I was more of like Johnny drama in a way I was like them combined you know like yeah I got you yeah I got to watch that show I know

I've seen you never seen I've seen the movie I've seen You're never seen the show? No, bro. Oh, man, you're crazy. You see the movie, too. There's so many calls about it. And the show blows away the movie, though. Like, absolutely blows away.

I know, I know. Is he maybe the best character of all time, written character? Best character, dude. God. By far. Drama, you know, competes with it. But Ari is just phenomenal. Dude, I don't think anybody touches Ari in this show.

He is so outstanding. My drama, Taylor? He's all right. I knew, I saw you looking at me, too. I got the French. He's pissed off because I step out of the batters bog. and baseball. We can't.

Yeah, wasn't a huge fan of drummer. You're not. Wasn't a huge fan, no. No, no, no. Well, that's why I like you a lot more, man. That's why I'm on the show for you, Will. Fuck yeah, dude. All the stuff that you've done off the field,

it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of your NFL earnings. Is that true? Technically, it's not true. Well, it actually started working because Drew gave me a $50,000. Technically, it's not true. technically it is true.

Technically, it is true. Okay. Yes. Did I say it's not true? Yeah, you said technically. Oh, well, technically I was wrong there. But technically it's true. I meant it's true.

Drew Rosenhouse actually gave me a $50,000 up front like marketing budget at the beginning. And you got to pay them back over the time the first 50 grand you made. So I actually took that 50 grand. I bought me a car. You know, I paid for my spot up in New England, actually, with it. And then as I was getting a couple deals, I paid them off. But just overall, you know, I, actually I'm very frugal, you know, and live, you know, with a roommate my first couple of years.

I didn't know how long the NFL was going to last. I was a second round pick. So it was like a four year, four million dollar deal. And I was like, if I play this contract out, I'll be set for life. I got two million dollars in my bank. I can make a hundred, hundred, two hundred thousand dollars of interest. I was like, if I only play three, four years, I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me, too, that I could be good as well. Like, like, hey, if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you know, that I think I could be whatever. I'm still set for life because $2 million in the bank is set for life to me, you know, at that time. So I just always wanted to save it and I just used my money that I was getting off the field

to just spend it on whatever I needed to spend it on. And then therefore, it just kept continuing. And to this day, technically I have not spent any of my NFL money. Yeah, yeah. In the crazy how when you're young, you have the mindset, like if I'll have $2 million, I'll be set for life. And I know obviously $2 million is a lot of money, but as time goes, you get older, and your lifestyle that you do have, you're like, oh, fuck, $2 million. Two million wouldn't get me very far if I continue to, like, live the way you think you can live

when you first sign a deal for like four years, $4 million. Yeah, it's scary how there's always a new level to it. Like you think if I can get to this point, that's all I need, blah, blah, but then you get to that point, and you're like, what is this? What's going on here? There's a private aviation you can get on a plane and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy. and always just it's always changing it's always yeah i told you he's going to be quiet the whole

entire time he's going to let us know when it's his turn and now he's letting us know it's his turn all right but buddy buddy we still got a little bit longer just a little bit longer we'll give you we'll give us 10 buddy give us a little bit longer buddy i told you though i call him i know this guy way too well yeah see it's a good dog come up here what you think about all raves in new england i think that's i mean I was waiting for this subject to come up, actually, because you guys know, Braves, you guys both played for him. But I think that's the perfect fit, you know, for New England overall, just for the organization, for the fan base, for the Kraft family.

You know, I just love his mantra. I love what he stands for. I never really met Brable before just for a quick second. I've heard plenty of stories of him because he was that first era of being a, you know, a patriot and winning all the Super Bowls. But just to see the way he progressed as a coach, too. That's why he's such a good fit too for New England because he's established. He put his time in as a player, put his time in as a coach going to Ohio State,

working his way up, going to Houston as like what, D.C. or whatever. Is it D.C.? So he took a step every single way to get to where he is. And I think he just has the personality just from just seeing it and just hearing from other players that I think he's the truest perfect fit possible for the second era, you know, after Bill Belichick. And what they're doing so far in New England, I mean,

you can't really argue with any of the moves that they have made so far. I think they have made every move, you know, correctly with the draft, with who they took all the way from free agency. They had all that money. They went and got the guys

they needed to get for the positions they needed to get. You never know, though, like when you make a team out of free agency, you never know how it's going to be. Yeah, it's kind of gel. But with a guy like Brable, I feel like he can gel him.

Because he's a guy that kind of, can gel people for i mean he he played offense before special teams defense like those guys don't how to gel he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he'll tell you he's done it all too i mean 14 years in the NFL and he's been a guy on every part of the the entire roster i mean if you look at like the titans in 2021 i think they set a record for the most players play because of all the injuries and we were the number one seed going into playoffs obviously we lost the first round we played but that that shows a guy that can gel his team and really i think it just depends on Drake May.

If Drake May can show up in a big way and take a step from year one to your two, like the Patriots could be good, actually good with all the, with all the free agency acquisitions. I'm going on record to say that they're making the playoffs this year as well. I don't think, you know, that they may, they have a chance at the division, but the bill is sure and pull the AFC. But it's AFC. Dolphins are going to dolphin, you know.

They're going to look beautiful real quick out of the water and they're going to sink back down. Yeah. The Jets. Yeah, I mean, we know. They're just too far away still. I mean, and then bills are going to, you know, bills are good. They're established. They're going to obviously be the dominant.

But I think Patriots, they can sneak into the playoffs this year. I can see that. I don't think they're going to, you know, compete for a Super Bowl. But I think in the end, in the two, three years possibly, yes, but this year, they're going to be making a big impact. I mean, if you go from what, the fourth overall pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's a huge jump. Yeah.

We should get a speech. Speaking of, since we're all team fan duel, we should get a little futures parlay going. I want to say the commanders over under is nine and a half. Titans are five and a half. And Patriots are seven and a half wins. Get a little combine them all, futures bet. I'll hit the overs on them all. Well, what is the commanders?

Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why can't we each do the over and then the Titans we do the under? You think the Titans will struggle and not win over five. You're not going to get six games? I don't think so. No, how many did they get last year? Three. Four?

Three. I think they got four or five in them this year. No, it wasn't five. I know, oh, this year. What's the improvement? Yeah, they got the quarterback number one overall pick, but I'm just saying overall, where, what else did they get? This is a good piece.

They paid a left tackle, 80 million dollars, and they're going to move their left tackle from last year, but all 17 games. He was the top 10 pick over to the right side. They got Zytler at right guard now. They got Cushenberry at center. And then you have a guy going to his third year that was a 11th overall pick. It's Peter Skronski at left guard. So we have a good offensive line.

All right. All right. You got Calvin Ridley and you got two great backs and Spears and Pollard. And you got, it really depends on like Cam Ward. If Cam Ward can be who we've kind of seen him be, then they are going to easily win over five and a half game. So it's all on Cam Ward as a rookie quarterback.

Just like the Patriots, it's all on Drake May. Because you got seven and a half. We got five and a half. With that breakdown, you know, I feel more comfortable taking me over. I will say, well, let me play.

I'll just say this is a good team meeting. Yeah. team meeting maybe we go both options over one and an under one well what's the Patriots over under seven and a half oh yeah we got we gotta go over if I say they're making the playoffs and that's going to be over yeah and that's a weak

division as well you know yeah you have one monster you have a monster yeah with the bills but uh I'm going over I'm going over big time we're all just going to be so biased and then what's the commander is nine and a half which is a big one but that is big

Jane Daniels in a second a year. I mean, and they only upgraded their team as well. They went out and got some more talent, you know, you got Cliff Kingsbury as off to the corner. He's established. He knows how to handle players and he knows how to break down players talent as well and use it. So I like the over. We got to do a parlay where it's just all over there. Let's go big too. Go up to September 14. That's the first game or September 7th? September 7th, the Raiders, dub. But Pete Carroll, yeah, the new running back in there. Gino Smith is there. They're going to run the ball. They're going to play good football.

Toss up. You said the dolphins come out of the water early in the season and look really pretty. That one's in Miami. And that one's in Miami. And it's in Miami. But did you see how pornoi break down the Patriot schedule? Yeah, I thought he did a great job.

I mean, they're going 17 and 0. So he did do a great job. He did a good job. He did a good job. I like usually, I looked. I was like five and a half minutes, like the first 30 seconds, the first breakdown of the first game. I was like, all right.

I was like, maybe I can watch five and a half minutes. but he was so good in entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of the Las Vegas game. I was like, all right, I got to watch every single one. I watched the whole entire video, and I literally walked away like,

that was good. You walked away to go. They might be 17 to no. Yeah, he might be. There's a reason why Dave is where Dave's at. Yeah. He can talk.

But Steelers. We're not breaking down the whole schedule now. I mean, I was looking at seven games. They're going above seven. I mean, we got the Steelers number. The Patriots always take down the Steelers,

no matter what. You guys have a favorable schedule. You got a, The Panthers, the Titans, Saints, Browns, Falcons. Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half there. Jets. We feel good about science. Yeah, we're going over seven and a half.

Yeah. Yeah. The Titans, I know I talked to big about their offense, but they are going to have holes on defense. Like, they're going to have their quarterback, their secondary is going to be in a tough position. And that's going to be tough on a rookie quarterback then, too, because rookie quarterback needs help from the defense

in order to get truly established and understand everything going on. And you're not playing from behind all the time. Exactly. And when you're playing from behind. as a rookie, it's tough to get over that hump then. It's tough to win games. I mean, you've got to be truly established as a quarterback in order to understand like, all right,

this is what we got to do from behind. This is what we got to do with a shitty defense. That's hard to understand your rookie year, you know, in the NFL at that position. But I'm down. I'm down to do. I'm down to parlay. Actually, I got my phone right now.

I'm up with the parlay in right now. At least build it so we know what the odds are. I won that bet last night. Florida Panthers taking down, you know, know the Toronto Maple Leafs in game seven. Do you need another moment of silence for that? No, no, I appreciate you. Thank you for thinking about my feelings, but we don't need to.

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I got the odds for the Tennessee Titans regular season wins, but they give plenty of odds. You can do over three and a half wins or over five and a half wins or over seven and a half wins. So you're saying the standard odds, though, are over five and a half wins. What does it say straight up? I don't know. It's minus 130 for five and a half wins. Yeah, then that's the one that they'll be right. All right.

So that's the one we want right there. So how do I parlay that? Do I, uh... Just go to another bet. All right, I'll go to the, um, New England Patriots. All right there, Washington commanders, click that. So what we want? Uh, over nine and a half wins.

That's minus one time. That's the one we want then. All right. All right. There we go. That parlayed, same game parlay. And now we're going with the New England Patriots. Um, where are you guys?

Right there. Over under seven and a half minus 150. That's it. Just clicked it. All right. Oh, we get now it's a plus 4.73 overall. Plus 473 for that. So how much should I put in?

So this is a future bet. I'm going to do. Time about don't do it yet. We might get it. We could get a little juice from Fanduel. Yeah. Like we tell them we get, we get done with the bus. We hit a Fandle.

Hey, we want to put this. Gronk and the boys parlay. Yeah, but I'm going to put a little something on it now. And then I'm going to go big when they give us that little juice. Yeah. So I'm going to do. I'm going to do 300. There we go.

300 right there. 300, I'm going to win 1,400. Okay. That's a bat right there. I'm feeling good. We're all feeling good about our teams. I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our tier talk today is going to be best movie couples.

That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, best movie couples, which is tough. I've thought about it. It's very hard. I love like the outside football talk. I thrive. Football is great to talk about, but I can't talk too much football. Right.

I really can't. If those are hanging out, you're going to talk about more than just football. I love talking more than football. I love off the field type of freaking conversations. So what's this one? I'll kick it off with tier talk. All right. You'll start.

Explain. Explain your talk is what I live for. Tier three, tier two, tier one. You're ranking them three all the way. Do we got honorable mention as well? You can throw in an honorable mention. All right. All right.

And for an honorable mention, my first honorable mention is going to be Noah and Allie from the notebook. It's a movie that will stand the test of time. Great love story. I do enjoy love. And sticking on the theme of love. enjoy love. I do enjoy love. I love a good tear jerk. Love is the greatest drug out there. Amen. Amen. My tier three is going to be Jerry and Holly from P.S. I love you. Great tear

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I Love You Notes all throughout her life. She finds them. It is a very great love story. My tier two is going to be Rocky and Adrian. One of the best proposals of all time where he says, hey, what are you doing for the next 40 or 50 years? And she's like, I don't know why. And he's like, you wouldn't mind to marry me to. much or anything right and she's like huh he's like you wouldn't mind marry me too much she says yes

rocky adrian great love story that is my tier two my tier one is none other than shrek and fiona oh that's a good one yes oh man that's a good one i finally watch the ogre they right you know it gets into the end she loves shrek she doesn't want to be with the prince she doesn't care to be the queen and that is all-time love story that is my tier one i watch that with camille last year for the first time and I'm in love. I'm in love with Shrek. Yeah, Shrek is a great series. Great, great movie.

Have you watched all of them since you want to last year? I'm kind of like Shrek, like, in some comparisons. Yeah. I can't believe you didn't say that. Big? Well, I mean, I, you know, no homo. I think you're no pause really, too. I think you're a good looking cat.

Yeah. Yeah, well, Shrek is too. Yeah, yeah. I'm an ogre in a way. You got some ogre tenets. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. Shrunk.

Strunk. Kind of looks like me a little bit. Yeah. So now we give one word to describe how we feel about Will's tear talk. I'll go first, hyphenated, saved it. What was your one word? Saved it. That's two.

Hyphenated. Oh, that's one. Spectacular. Oh. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Boys?

Yeah. Shrunk. Lovely. Buzzer beater. emotional money strong touching wow thank you boys thank you wow i was getting turned on from all those descriptions it's because you yeah i felt it's because you got that uh yeah i felt that you got that rose spark in your system i really did feel it back there the emotions the boys emotions taylor would you like to go second or should we go do we want to throw it to grunt go to throw the grump

all right so just best movie couples yeah Mm-hmm. All right, my honorable mention, I'm gonna go with my girlfriend and Channing Tatum in the movie. Oh shit, what was that movie that she was in? It was a free guy. And Free Guy, it was the opening scene. Okay. Yeah, it was really, it was really touching.

So it's honorable mentions because they weren't really dating, but like they kind of where it was like going on a date, like the opening scene. It was a kind of tough scene your girl with you. It was, it was, but I got to give it honorable mention. Like he's a rocket. Yeah, I know. And he's got moves, bro. You talk about dancing.

I know. I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Yeah. So that's honorable mention. You got to see it, free guy. It's a great movie. She's a hot chick in the beginning in the car with Channing. Yeah.

Yeah, there they are right there. And that's a good thing. He's badass. Yeah, that's a good one. It was a badass scene. So I got to give her some credit there. She did very well throughout that whole movie. And then I'll go with number three.

I'll go with Justin Baldi. Deney and Blake lively and it ends with us. Yeah, I still haven't seen the movie, but it's talked about so much that I got to, you know, put them in in that ballgame. Yeah. Of being top three. I mean, when you're talked about that much, it's got to be a power couple, you know, throughout the movie.

It ends with us. So that's number three, number two, tier two. I'll go with Shia LaBuff. Is that how you say this first name? Shia. Shia LaBuff. Shia LaBah. Buff and Megan Fox in the Transformers.

Transformers 1. Transformers 1. Great one. Yeah, that was excellent, dude. Who doesn't love, you know, Transformers 1? And they were like an ultra power couple in that movie. And number one, you know, it was a real life relationship at the time, too. And also they made one of the best movies all the time.

I'm a big action guy. Mr. and Mrs. Smith with Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt. Yes. All aspects of that category Because they're a real life relationship It was a relationship in the movie And it was also an action movie And I love action movies

So that's number one by five for me Mm-hmm My word Fireworks Is that two words? Is that fireworks combined Or with a little dash Like fire dash works

Fireworks is one word It is one word You're right Yeah You're right It depends how you're using it The way you're using Yeah, just testing them, making sure.

My one word, amazing. Boys? Shrunk. Shrunk again. Perfect. Incredible. Strong. Hyphenated gronk spike.

Okay, that's one word. Solid. Elite. Oh. Buddy, that was a good word. That was a really good talk. My gosh, my gosh. And Mr. Smith is one that's not on my list, but if I could redo it, I probably would,

because it's so great, but I'm not going to take it. My tier three is going to go to Tess and Finn from Fools Gold. That's played by Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey. Now in the beginning the movie, they're getting divorced. The whole movie they're getting divorced. Towards then, you'll have to watch it. Spoiler alert, they get back together. It's a beautiful one in Matthew McConaughey.

Looks phenomenal movie, not Dimitrich. I actually just read his book, Greenlight. I just finished it. Was it all? Was it all? Any chance, if you like to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book. Shout out Matthew McConaughey's book.

Conahe. My tier two is going to go to Vanessa and Deadpool in the first movie. The passion that those two have with each other, trying to outdo each other and how bad their childhoods are. They get engaged with a, what is it, a ring pop? And then all of a sudden the big C word comes. And obviously we know how the whole entire movie goes. My tier one is going to go to Jeremy Gray and John Beckwith from Wedding Crashers.

You probably say Taylor, that's two guys. They weren't married. Life and business is like a marriage with your best friends. Those two working together tirelessly during wedding season to grab and stab all these other beautiful women is something that takes a lifelong friendship to achieve, which is a marriage. And that is why they are my tier one. All right. I'll go first. I'll say creative because of your tier one.

Thank you. Wham. Greatest hits. Mazel top Ring pop Silver metal Those are those are both Two words unique

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Okay Okay Boom boom boom boom Great tier talk Great tier talk And you understood You understood the assignment Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation.

Like football can, you know, go for so long. Right. We have this episode to bring you True Classic. Now, listen, you're going to find True Classic at Costco, Nashville, June 13. That's what you're going to find out. Also, Sam's Club Target or online at TrueClossack.com forward slash bustin. They've done so well. They're doing a kids and women's line launch later this year.

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Here's a football. Here's a question in the football world. However, I think it involves you being a student of the game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there. During the COVID year, when a lot of things were virtual, there's a story about you potentially wearing different t-shirts while you're doing a sprint workout to send it in. Give some game to the young counts out there and how you gain the system.

You got to work smarter and not harder, boys. That's what it's all about. That's what keeps you around a lot longer too, is you can work as high as you want, But if you're doing something that's making you insane and you just keep working harder, you're going to get more insane. Yeah. You know, but you got to work smarter. So you're supposed to, you know, during COVID, you were doing all the workouts at home and you had to send it into an app that you were to prove to prove that you were doing to show that you were doing.

So you actually had to film yourself like benching and film yourself, you know, running the routes or running the sprints. But you didn't have to do the whole entire bench. Like it was like your last set or you would have to, you know, show like two of the runs that you were doing. So instead of filming myself running every time, I just film my, so that day you have 12 runs. So you got to show two of them. So instead of filling myself every single time to submit the runs, I brought out six different t-shirts. And every two runs, I would switch my t-shirt up and then film the whole entire run that day. And then I would submit those two runs with a different t-shirt on every single time that those moments came up that I had to submit it.

And so I tricked them. I tricked them So technically maybe I didn't run that day then Because I was like I just used a video Yeah Yeah I hit the band shows So I tricked them

Tricked them When did you did you tell on yourself Or did somebody ever find out I told on myself Fair Yeah Told the story to the reporters actually that year That is so funny

Like once the hair And the train coach was like Like oh Rob boy What the fuck I got everyone hitting me up You're an asshole Yeah He loved it though

He thought it was great That is a funny, funny piece of game. Last question. The Bud Light question. Everybody knows anybody, we would do anything for a Bud Light. What is one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for, Can't Say Family? Oh. Well, my dog's technically family, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Girlfriend's technically family. Yeah. Yeah. So what would I do anything for? Dang. You know, that's a really good question.

I would do anything to be happy at all times 24-7. That would be something special. You can't go against that, right? Oh, no, I don't think so. Yeah, to be happy at all times. What about playing your junior of college? Okay. All right.

Physically, that's mentally. So now physically, I would go back. I would love to play my junior year in college. and also I transferred my senior year in high school if I could somehow play that year that I played in Pittsburgh

but also play the year at my old high school as well yeah so if I could like do double senior seasons in high school and play the year my junior year in college at Arizona because you do

when you leave like you miss your boy like I left my boys like in high school you know I went to a different school I was getting in trouble and stuff There's a lot more to it, but then I went to Pittsburgh my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends with all those guys like to this day. And like, you're leaving them, you know. I mean, it's for the better in the end.

Like it worked out for sure. But like still, like you wish you could, you know, you watch all the high school movies and everything like Friday night lights. And like you wish you could finish strong with the people you started with. Right. But it just didn't work that way. And same with, you know, my third year, you know, at the University of Arizona. So I would do anything. You're right.

mentally to be happy at all the times. So being happy is great. And energized and energized. And then physically go back and play those years. I love it. What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for, kind of came as a surprise, like during retirement. Like you're a guy,

Hall of Fame career, one of the best to ever do it. And you obviously tasted retirement that one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay. But now you're like officially retired. What's something you feel like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement? You know, being on a routine, you know, When you're playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you always have a routine.

You got to be at practice. You got to be in the film room. Like it's there. Like it's handed to you like a, you know, a schedule every single day. That routine, you know what to do and get prepared for. And then once you retire, that routine is totally thrown out the window. It's kind of up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're going to work out, when you're going to do this, when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So just getting on a routine.

And when you totally get off of it as well, it flux. with you, you know, like you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're flying all over to place. You're not doing the right things. You're not getting your workouts in and all that good stuff. And you're just so used to doing all that, you know, on a continuous basis. Even if you don't feel like it, you have to do it when you're an athlete because everyone else is doing it. You don't have that push around you. So that's the tough spot is getting that push, you know, to get to the next level and also that routine of always, you know, being on the grind and getting things done. Yeah, because when it snowballs, you're just laying there and you just get so mad at

yourself from falling out of a routine. Then you start talking to yourself in ways like you said, like, oh, mentally weak, like I'm fucking falling off. Look what's happened to you. Look at an old photo of yourself, like that guy worked hard. But you guys got it down though. Like, look at you guys, keep each other accountable, I bet, you know, doing the show. You got to get a routine. You know, get prepared for it. You know, study up. I would same thing with myself and Julian. We got our podcast. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?

Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guide, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter.

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.

Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerner Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world. right now and I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's dudes on dudes. So you got to prepare for that, get mentally ready, kind of physically ready too, because you want to be physically feeling good at all times. It keeps your mental game sharp. So you just got to find,

you know, the guys out there that want to get on the same page with you and want to do that as well. What is it like diving into the podcast world with Jules? Yeah, it's great. And what's great about it, Julian already had his podcast games with names. So Julian was experienced. The podcast, I never thought it was like really for me. I always like going on people's podcast. But I was like, I said no for like ever.

I was like, I don't want to start my own podcast. But then once I went on Julian's and we had the chemistry. And then I saw that Julian can carry the load of the podcast too. The load. We were just talking about that on Sunday conversation. He's like, oh, Julian takes the whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah. So that just brought, you kind of triggered in my mind.

But I was like, all right. So he's going to be there to help me along and everything. And it's just great to have a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And his team around him was already experienced. Everything set up ready to go right when you walk in. So I was like, I can do it now. And it was just a right fit.

It was kind of like going to Tampa had to be the right fit. Yeah. Do you travel out there to do it each time you guys do the pod? Well, I'm in LA all the time for the pregame for the Fox show. So we usually just knock out an episode or two on like that Monday or Friday or something. And now that it's offseason, we get together. Like we were just in Boston last week, we knocked out two episodes. But if we're not, we just do it over Zoom.

Gotcha. Yeah. So half of them right now in the off season are over Zoom. The other half are one we can get in person whenever we can. That's awesome. We've got to get all the boys together. Yeah. We can get the four of us in one room.

That'd be awesome. The boys, the dudes. It would be good stuff. gosh. You guys basically, you guys are like football with a little, all football with a little everything else as well. Yeah, I'd say like,

probably 70% football. 70%? And the off season two, like, I mean, we have like comedians, musicians, like all coaches,

players, all these different things. Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically off football on the first couple though. And I was like, bro, I'm not all football.

Like, like I can't. So now we're switching up with like fan questions. Or that like, or that like tier talk that we just did with the movie couple. come up with segments like that now too and I'm like this is way better like football is great for half of it but the other half I want to this freelance was going on what you're doing at the

moment like what you learn like new technique new trick in life or whatever with new hat just whatever just go off so not just all about football now we're kind of blaspheming more like because of it hot topics whatever's talking about right there so football is great I mean but like to do it 24-7 I like I like abroad of you know of everything I'm with you on that absolutely with you Before we let Mr. Grancowski go, does anybody have a question back there? They'd like to ask. Anybody feel free.

I thought that guy in the middle would ask me where I get my IVs from, even though we already brought it up where you guys get your IVs from too. You're talking about Eritay Nashville? Yeah, he does do a good job. I don't want to give him the credit, but he's good at sticking you. You know, because you know he's seeking the credit in L.A., yeah, seeking it. And he does rehydrate you well.

So these unbelievable nurses there that work really hard. Yes. And they actually deserve all the credit, all the women nurses that he has hired. Absolutely. Eritere in Nashville, they do get you hydrated and filled you up with the best vitamins in the game. It is. Those nurses are on point. Yeah, the nurses, you run that company.

Run it. Run it. They really do. Without the nurses. Bobbo, they didn't see all the work in the beginning. Yeah. I didn't see where it started. Yeah.

And Bobo, we do appreciate, for the show you were talking about giving us all free IVs for like next two months. So I appreciate you saying that, dude. I agree. 100%. Bobo, give us all free IV. Thank you, Bobo. That is awesome. Thank you, sir.

And if you're listening and you hear this, just walk in and say, hey, I heard you're giving out free IVs for two months. Code Bus and with the boys. Code Bussing. Yes, on the Grank episode. Awesome with Grack is free IVs. So that is big time, Bob. You have to give out free IDs.

You have to give it out. We're not saying NAD a vitamin bag. The athlete bag, you have to give out if someone comes in. But Grunk, you remember he was saying, you were saying that he was giving all of us NAD for free. Yeah, we're getting it. NAD for free. Yeah, yeah.

But they can get a, if you hear this, you can get a vitamin bag. Yeah, for free. We don't want them to go bankrupt now. No, just a vip bag, get in there. Small bag, too. Yeah. Small bag, big bag. That is no real price difference.

It's just fluid. It's just fluid. Fluid's five cents. Yeah, yeah. Even though you get charged $100. Yeah. Gotta make a profit. Got to make a profit.

Margins are healthier. Yeah. Yeah, it's like ice cream. Yeah. Ice cream margins. Jack, did you have a question? Hey, I got to, yeah, when do ice cream companies make their most amount of money? When did it?

Yeah, like what month? July. No, June? See, that's what you think. It's actually May. It's like right when the weather blossoms because everyone wants to hurry up and get there. I heard they make all their money for the whole year. Yes, June, July, and August are great, but when it's truly packed, it's the first month that it just, the sun comes out.

I learned that. That's what I've been told. No shit. That's crazy. Because everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather is nice outside, how, how bazaunkers is it outside? It's wild. People walk around.

Yeah. Later in the summertime, you go out on Saturday, it's like, oh, people are like, oh, we've seen the sun every single day now. Yeah. Right. Everyone goes apes shit when it's the first, you know, week of nice weather. Same with the ice cream world. When it comes to ice cream, I don't discriminate on weather.

I'll take down an ice cream in the middle of January. I love that stuff. Love it. Go ahead, Jackie. Uh, was the Steve Harvey Lego head spike scripted. Damn, damn, that's a good question. And everyone wants to know that, actually. It's still talked about to this day.

That was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting New Year's Eve on Fox. And I spiked a Steve Harvey Lego set of, of his head, of his face. But, uh, what was scripted was that I was going to spike it. Like I knew I was spiking it. They had me, uh, in the script, hey, Gronk, you're going to spike the Steve, uh, Steve Harvey, Lego, not Steve Harvey, Steve. Oh, fuck, my names are all over to play.

Steve. No, you're right. Steve Harvey. I'm getting them confused with another Steve, I know. But the Steve Harvey Lego said, hey, you're going to spike it. So when I spiked it, that was kind of, you know, understood. Understood. That was kind of scripted.

Did he know it? Did he know it? But his reaction was not scripted at all. And I'm not sure either if he knew I was going to spike it or not. I knew I was going to from the beginning. I'm not sure if he knew. But his reaction was priceless. man like it felt like he was truly pissed if he truly was but how was how was the dynamic after

it was fine were you around him and he was got yeah he didn't bring it up after like it was like he was like he was like nice bike but like he wasn't like out the screen like why the fuck did you do that yeah no no like he acted like that like when it happened I mean he kind of got me scared I was like oh shit like was I really supposed to do that or not like he's pissed but it was good it was TV it was one of my my best movements, one of my best moments on TV of all time. I love it. I love it. Boys, we feel good?

Any other questions back there? I know, but I don't like telling anyone that scripted. Because everyone truly believes it was like right on the spot. Like I decided to do that. Steve sells it. Yeah. He sells it big time. Yeah.

He sold it that good. So yeah, it was scripted. But it was kind of, it was unscripted scripted. There we go. Unskippeded scripted. Let's give Rob a round of applause, boys. Thank you for coming on the bus. Thank you guys for having me, man.

Bussing with the boys. That's what's up, man. Thank you. We'll be doing more with Fanduil. Yes. Oh, yeah. Fan duel is the best, man. This fall is going to be awesome.

I can't wait for it. Can you get a photo? Yeah, big hug, tiny kisses. Subscribe. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. You know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.

Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs' tennis podcast

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