Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Sam Darnold Opens Up About Jets, Panthers, & What It's Like Playing With Cam Newton

Episode Date: February 7, 2026

Recorded: April 4, 2022 | On this Best of the Bus, we’re throwing it back to when Sam Darnold hopped on the bus for a great conversation with The Boys. Sam walks through his football journey from his high school days and recruiting process all the way through his time at USC and into the NFL. The conversation dives into what it was like being part of that loaded QB class with Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen, and Sam breaks down the famous “seeing ghosts” moment and the real pressure that comes with playing quarterback at the highest level. The guys also get into Jets fan expectations, what it was like sharing a locker room with Cam Newton, and plenty of real locker room stories you won’t hear anywhere else. If you missed this one the first time around, this is a must listen. And if you already heard it, it’s absolutely worth running back again.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're already in this. You know, this is actually my first time doing a podcast by myself? Are you nervous? Well, not by myself, but like with somebody, that's not Will. Yeah. I can say I'm a little nervous right now. A man of your stature. We'll be all right.

Man who's making news around the league everywhere right now. Really? I don't know. I've read a couple things. Dude, I don't pay attention, so. You don't pay attention to anything? No. I feel like that's a load of bullshit.

Really? Absolutely. So you don't see any of the stuff people are saying things going on? Yeah, it's not a healthy thing. But at the same time, it's like one of those deals where kind of forced to watch sometimes. Well, that's why it's cool when it gets brought up in person. Because then they're like exactly like you just did. Yeah.

Actually, no, I don't know any news that's come out about me. You can fill me in on everything. We'll have to in a little bit for sure. Yeah. We're actually going right now, too, by the way. Welcome to Bustin with the boys. Outstanding Citizen with us today. Third overall pick in the 2018 draft.

Sam Donald, please give him a round of applause, boys. Electro stack to have him on. Charismatic individual. I've actually met him once before if you guys didn't know this at the Rebel Ranch, right? Yep. We were boozing together one day. Not a whole lot of boozeant, but there were a couple drinks passed around. Do you like the place?

It was great. Yeah. Live music. All the Brad Burberry, right? Yep. He came up and how do you guys know each other? Same class? Garrett.

Garrett. Brad. Yeah, it's all the same thing to me. Yeah. Yeah, he's a great dude. We just connected through really our agency. Really? Just people that we know.

And then actually a lineman that's on our team, Pat Elfline is boys with him. Yeah. Through like training and stuff. So, but yeah, they're all great dudes. Awesome. You know what I mean? Right. The salt of the earth cats.

100%. 100%. And so you guys came up to Cave Creek. What brought you guys up there? Where were we? That bar, Buffalo Chip. Yeah. Outstanding bar.

So we had a night out in Buffalo Chip and it was great. Do you guys watch the bull riding and everything? Did. Yeah. That's awesome. Give me one second. Because I am already leaking, boys. Holy shit.

Look at that. Don't look at it. Hey, what hit, JP? Watch yourself now. I know. So, hey, sometimes you're sitting down in that chair a little bit and it's like, oh, the tarps comes off a little bit. Yeah, you guys, was the buffalo chip. You saw bull riding?

Bull riding. The whole thing. A little line dancing. Oh, you know how to line dance. I don't, no, but I tried hard. Did you? I tried really hard. And that's all it matters is the effort.

It matters. Effort, yep. No doubt. So did you learn? Did you learn a two step two? I've learned in the past. Just when I, when we started. started line dancing and it wasn't going my way.

Yeah. I just kind of stepped to the side. No doubt. I just started, you know, just doing my thing. Kind of bobbing back and forth. Yeah. That middle school thing, when you kind of peer back and forth,

you're staring at the other girls. 100%. And we're waiting to who's going to make a move first type of deal. Yeah. And then at Buffalo Chip, I feel like there were a lot of pros. Yeah. Out that night.

Yeah, they get down out there, dude. I give you a little hint on line dancing. This might just be my opinion. But I feel like you leave line dancing for the ladies. Right? They go out there. They get in their lines.

They enjoy themselves and do all that. I was out I was actually in Arizona this weekend and I have a buddy out there Beau Campbell. Guy can absolutely two step with the best of him. He's throwing women around.

There's no gravity when it comes to that man dancing. It's outstanding. It got way too drunk. I had no idea. It was one of those little sipper deals and it would just, it turned on me real fast. Yeah.

It's not about me. This is about you. No, let's keep going. Let's talk about you. No, let's not. Did you go to high school? I went to Chaparral High School went to Michigan.

But you went to high school. but you went to high school and you didn't just play football. Basketball player too. Yep. Was there ever a point in your life where you're like, I want to do basketball instead of football? Oh, yeah. Early on, I would say.

I would say basketball is probably my first love. Watching Kobe growing up. The man. My dad had a huge Lakers fan. Obviously turned me into a Lakers fan as well. You know, even when the Lakers weren't winning a ton, he was so fun to watch. I mean, just, you know,

it could be middle of season, regular season game, and he'd be going all out. Like, they could be losing by 20, and he'd be playing in the last few minutes of the fourth quarter. It was just like, you know, and I didn't even really recognize that as a young kid. Yeah, but I just get older. You appreciate it way more, huh? 100%.

Yeah. 100%. So it was just, yeah, didn't even realize it at the time, but he was such an inspiration for me and, you know, I'm sure a lot of other kids, but it was fun to watch. I grew up and watch that. And so that's kind of how I fell in love with basketball. And then, yeah, just ended up loving it. And then started to get into football a little bit later on, like third grade.

And just played, I played basketball, football, and baseball. Those are like the three that I just rotated around. Yeah. Throughout my childhood growing up and really throughout until freshman year of high school. And then played basketball up until my senior year of high school. And that was the last year I played basketball. You didn't do any pickups at USC or anything like that? We did.

Yeah. Yeah. But nothing. Nothing organized. Or whatever dunk on some little nerds. Nothing organized. A little workout in. 100%.

Yeah. Offseason grind. Yeah, no question. Yeah. I cannot play basketball at all, but all the boys would go out there hang out and play basketball. You could sit there. Yeah. I'll get no easy buckets.

Yeah. No easy buckets. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Pass it back and forth over and over and over again. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing.

Yeah. You would throw it, though. You're not dunking though. No, I can, I used to be able to. I don't know if I can dunk anymore. The boy had a 30 and a half. Okay. You know, that little vert was kind of nice.

Yeah. It's harder than mine. It was just like 25, 26. Bad, yeah. Yeah, I was looking at it on the Wikipedia page. I'm a one, one foot jumper. We ran the same 40 as well. Did we?

Yes. Good. Yeah, well, you know. Well, you know, what was the 10? What was the split? I think that's what matters. 164. Yeah, probably fastened me too.

But you don't, you don't got to run that fast? You kind of got wheels, like Pat Mahomes. You guys can get around a little bit. Yeah, yeah, game speed. Yeah. And so when you went to USC, you were going there to play linebacker. No. They wanted you to play linebacker at first.

So I got recruited. So there were some o-linmen. I don't know if you know the name Kyle Murphy or Josh Garnett. I don't know those names, no. So they went to Stanford, played lineman. He was a left tackle at Stanford. But they went to my high school. Or, sorry, Kyle Murphy went to my high school, not Josh.

but uh and then Sean Harlow do you know that name at all place for the Falcons uh I went to Oregon State do we know the name back there boys if it's not 49ers Blas I can know yeah he was I mean both really good uh prospects out of same high school so we had some you know pack 12 schools that would come around and uh they recruited me and but at the time I was playing linebacker and receiver my sophomore year and and uh I remember Ogeron Ogeron had like one of the little film cameras yeah And he was like filming me doing linebacker drills. And I was like, I thought this guy was here for, you know,

the seniors who are getting recruited to play at, uh, to play at SC. And he was just like, no, like I want to film this dude darnal. Like he looks like he's, he's got some athletic ability. And I was like a buck, you know, buck 90 at the time. Grow into it. Same height. I was tall early on. But, uh, yeah, I was a skinny, skinny little linebacker who would just get tossed around

by left tackles in our league. But, uh, I was playing like three, four, uh, like Sam. I, no, Will at the time. So I was, like, kind of on the line of scrimmage. Yeah. Trying to fight off tight ends and tackles when they were trying to run block. So that was fun at 190. Yeah.

And there were kids that, there were like tackles and guards that were pushing 300 in our league. Really? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, California's got good ball out there. A lot of people like to shit on California, but it's kind of a deal. People do like to shit on California. Yeah. A lot of people in this bus, actually.

Oh, really? California. Yeah. Who is that? Who is that? We want to point fingers? No, we're not pointing fingers. But it's in this general areas or in this general area?

No, it's in this general area. A T? We'll leave him out of it. Yeah, fair enough. T with three letters. Shit on California ball. It's like a top five state. He just talks a lot about SEC and, you know.

Where are you from, T? How it means a little bit more. Oh, you're from here? You're a Valls guy. Gotta respect the Valls. Their fan base is out of control. Their fan base is insane. Michigan beat the Valls in basketball to go to the Sweet 16.

and I put out one tweet of Juan Howard slapping the tea and holy shit now obviously most of my followers are Tennessee fans living in Tennessee but it was a bloodbath they remind me of the Buffalo Bills that Bill's mafia

you get that tea mafia out there but California dudes they rip now California, Ohio, Georgia, Alabama, Florida is that the top five? Oh Pennsylvania too that's another one he can't sleep on that tea yeah Louisiana's like that I don't even know that. That's recent, though.

That's pretty recent. So when Ogeron came had this little camcorder on you, filming you up, you're a buck 90. Did you think to yourself, oh, I'm going to the league now? No, no, I had no idea. Dude, I actually, I didn't really know what a scholarship offer was until I got offered my first one. Who was your first offer? University of Utah. Oh, hell yeah.

Huge, dude. Absolutely. Yeah, so they offered me after my sophomore year. I played like two games at the end of the season at quarterback because the starter got hurt. and they offered me based on some tape that they saw of those two games and then of like some drills that I did for him during the spring. No shit. Crazy.

Yeah. And so he offered me the scholarship. He was like, hey man, like we want to offer you a scholarship to play football at the University of Utah. And I was like, oh, okay. At quarterback after two games. Yeah. And I was like, okay, cool. You know, didn't really knew like what it entailed or like he was like, you pretty excited

about it or you just, I was just very like kind of. kind of monotone. Like, yeah, I'm very excited. Thank you, Coach. Like, can't wait to, you know, continue talking to you, whatever. And he goes and tells my parents, like, right after that. And I just see my mom melt. She's just crying.

Yeah, everywhere. And I'm just like, I think this is a little bit bigger deal than I thought. Right. And so they're like, yeah, like, my dad kind of explained it to me in the head coach. He was just like, dude, you're like, you're going to get offered, like, full tuition to go to the school just to play ball. and potentially have a chance at going to the league. That's pretty incredible. And so, I don't know.

I think it was kind of cool to, you know, live my entire kind of childhood and my high school life, not really knowing what, you know, I was necessarily going for. You know, I wasn't ever trying to get an offer, you know, but it just happened. So when you were growing up playing ball, you never thought, oh, I'm going to be an NFL football player someday? Or I'm going to be an NBA basketball player or MLB?

I always dreamed of playing in professional sports and something, but I didn't know necessarily kind of. of the steps to get there. I was just like, oh, I want to play professional ball, do something. And so I was just like, dang, like, you know, I guess the next step would be college.

Yeah. Right. Yeah, that's, usually football is like just a singular line trajectory of where you're going to go. Yeah. Exactly. So, yeah.

So I got offered and I was, yeah, after they kind of, you know, told me what it was and what was going on, then they told me. They were just like, I was just, you know, so happy. So happy about, you know, the situation.

And it's funny, like, once you get that first offer, I mean, you know how it is. It just starts rolling in. Yeah. And you got one in your sophomore year. That's kind of, is that abnormal? One guy that dude from Michigan, he got one in eighth grade, which is kind of while, do you have any kids at your school that were getting offers like that?

Yeah. I mean, oh, not in my high school. But obviously, you know, you got guys, he got guys in, you know, like David Sills, who now plays receiver, I think, for the Giants. He played at West Virginia, I believe. And he was like one of the top recruited kids in California to play quarterback. And ended up getting offered in seventh grade, I believe, by like Lane Kiffin at S. C.

Yeah. And it was insane. He has zero pubic hair on his body. And they're just going to all of a sudden give him an offer. That's, you know, he might have. He might have. Some seventh graders did. Yeah.

You know, Luke Stedman when I was in middle school. My kid was a hostage. He had a receding hairline at 12. 12 years old. It was unbelievable. So you get you get the youths. And so you're kind of like, hey, I guess I'm just going to college now. This is going to happen. What happened after that? Who were the next ones to fall in line? Shoot, it was kind of other pack 12 schools. And you didn't start playing quarterback until your junior year? Yeah, like full time. So yeah, kind of that off season. Yeah.

We're going into junior year. I started playing more quarterback. But, uh, yeah, man, it was just packed 12 schools, a couple. I think it was just Tennessee. Honestly, who offered me. And then... Smart move, huh? And then, yeah, and then it was like Big Ten, like Penn State, some other ones. Do you get Michigan? I didn't. You know, it's funny.

Right when Harbaugh got the Michigan job, he called me. Really? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And he was kind of pitching, and I was just like, hey, like, I've committed to USC. Like, this was after, like, right when I was about to start my senior year. And I was like, listen, like, I made a commitment to go to SC. Like, I appreciate you reaching out.

but so yeah he did reach out and you know assume that he would have probably offered me but I didn't even let him get that far I was just like I'm I'm going to SC that loyal cat huh yeah yeah I mean dude I grew up an SC fan yeah I mean you grew up with Matt liner Reggie Bush those dudes out there slaying it prime time SC ball and I was you know that was my childhood you know what I mean so and Pete Carroll was the dude too man yeah he played SC perfectly did all the stuff you needed to do get the and then dip right when The sanctions were, yes. Will Ferrell coming in doing practice.

Do you guys have anything like that at ESC? He did it right. We never did, dude. God. Who were your coaches at SE? I was with, so Sark. I was with Sark for about a year and a half. And then Clay took over as the interim.

And then ended up getting the job after that first year where we, we had a pretty good year. That's awesome. Yeah. So when you were coming out, as soon as you offered by the youths, you're like, I want to go to SC. The whole time you're like, I want to go to S. I always wanted to go to S. Yeah. So when they offered, it was done deal.

Yeah, it was because they offered late too. Like I was, I actually went on some unofficial visits. I went to Duke, Northwestern, and then I went to Oregon. Why'd you do at Duke? Why'd you in Northwestern? I wanted to, right? I just wanted to. No, I'm not, actually.

Well, Duke's a good school, right? I thought I was. But no, Duke's a great school, Northwestern too. But I really liked Fitz, who's the coach at Northwestern. He's a great thing. I like Cutcliffe a lot, just knowing his background with the mannings and stuff. I was like, you know, I want to get to know this guy and potentially play for him. I think it'd be sick.

Yeah. And so I was kind of my mindset with that. And then went to Oregon after that. So I went Duke, Northwestern, Oregon. And then I came back down to do a camp like last minute at SC. They had like a middle school camp going on. And then I was throwing, I was like thrown in the mix because Sark wanted to see me throw in person. He'd never seen me throw in person.

So I threw for him. I probably like 50 balls just kind of warming up. And then on the run, just really like low-key workout. And then he took me in his office and offered me on the spot there. And I thought about it. You know, I made the whole list, pros and cons where I wanted to go, top three schools. And, you know, that was once I made the pros and cons list,

I was like pros for SC. Yeah. And then there were no cons. Yeah, it was over for you. I was like, okay, yeah, this is pretty easy. Yeah, no doubt. Parents can see me play. Great education, great ball.

Grew up a fan. Yeah. Grew in San Clemente, right? Yeah. Outstanding town if you ever been to San Clemente. God, what a beat town. I have been. I was like 15, 16, I had a girlfriend who was pretty rich.

So we'd go out there in the summertime. It was a nice deal. Oh, yeah. Good move. Oh, yeah. Smart, big family Italian girl. There you go. She was awesome.

Shout out Laura Shockley. But we would go to San Clemente all the time. Awesome. Yeah. We go to San Clemente. It was awesome. Motherfucker. Yeah, she hates my guts probably now.

Shout out. Hey, Laura. Good to see you. I hate my name. Ouch your motherfucking. Yeah, how do you feel about that? What side do you want with Chris Rock and Will Smith? What a weird pivot.

Yeah. Fun of it. Yeah. No, I mean, you can't hit anyone. Yeah. So you're on the Chris Rock side. Yeah. And it's a joke.

But, you know, whether the joke was bad taste or not, you know, it's, you can't just, you can't go up and smack someone. Yeah. Like that. Yeah, we talked about it on the podcast last week, and it kind of seemed like it's alopecia, right? I don't want to get that wrong because I feel like it's insecure. What I said?

It's last week, propitia? Propetia, which is like the save the hair thing. And I just think that, I don't know, it depends. Like, there's a lot of women, Jada included, who look beautiful. Right. With the shaved head. I have no issue with it. And I think anything's fair with comedy when it comes to stand up.

You know what I'm saying? Unless you're white saying the N-word. That's probably a big no-no, right? That probably shouldn't go down. that road. Other than that, I think you're pretty fair game. Other than that, there might be another couple. Yeah. But anything off the top of your head you're thinking of? You probably shouldn't touch? No, no, not

at all. Yeah. But, no, that was yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know if he knew that she had it or I don't even know if it was his joke. That's the other thing is like, did he write it himself?

He didn't, right? I mean, even then he's got to take responsibility because he said it. Yeah. So, I mean, but at the end of the day, it's a joke. And Chris Rock's there to, and you got to know if you're at the Oscars and you're sitting front row. You're going to get roasted a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think, too, when they showed Will Smith sitting there, he was like smiling, having a good time. Have you seen the whole clip? And then he looks over. Yeah. Had to go defend her honor. Yeah. I thought his reaction was perfect, though. The way, Chris Rock handled it?

He's like, wow. What a fucking pro, dude. What a pro. He was rattled, though. Oh, there's no question. He was rattled. He was a rattle. He started saying documentary instead of Oscar,

like had a whole bunch of stuff going on. But I think all of us in here, if he slapped me, we've talked about this. You get slapped by another man. You like to think level of heads were prevail, but like, I mean,

do you're getting poked in the chest in general. Someone does something like just goes right up to your chest that pokes you. You kind of want to kill that person immediately, right? Yeah. So imagine getting open hands slapped. Imagine if that just broke out in a huge fight. I think Chris Rock would get his ass beat.

He would. He would absolutely get his ass beat. Well, yeah. He's probably gotten, I mean, listen, he's a stand-up comedian who's done a million shows. Right. That's probably happened to him. And the stand-up community, I don't think they're a bunch of tough guys in there. Like two off the top of the head, Shob and Rogan are the two dudes that are probably going to beat some ass.

Other than that, like, you don't think, I mean, Chris Rock's tiny, he's 5'7. Yeah. 54 years old or whatever he is, absolute legend. Legend. But he starts swinging. It would have made it. I mean, it would have been outstanding TV. We would have been talking for an hour longer.

He said it. Right when he landed the shot. When he got back up to the mic, he was like, this is the greatest night in television. Yeah, he did such a great job. Yeah. It was very well. He handled it perfectly, I thought. Yeah.

I think it would have been better if he just said, keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth. And then it just was it. But then he just kept going. Yeah, it was a bad deal. And then it goes up and does that two and a half minute speech. Were you watching it live? I didn't watch it live. Yeah, I wasn't either.

Yeah, I see the Twitter. And it's thriving. It's going off on there. And you immediately go to try to zoom in, find it. Shout out Japan. Japan had the whole thing for us. Yeah, no, I don't know how fast it was after he slapped Chris Rock, but how fast, how quick was the turnaround with him winning the award

and going up and giving the speech. That was like 20 minutes, right? That's crazy. Yeah, and so he's got to go up. He's talking about being a protector and stuff like that. Yeah. And it was his first Oscar as well. God.

Hey, and then he just resigned from the Academy. He just came out the other day and said, I'm going to resign, which I don't know what that means. Does that mean he's done acting? or he's just no longer affiliated with the PA or whatever they are. I don't know, dude. He can't go to the Oscars. I tell you, T's got the information.

He just can't go to the award shows anymore. But he can still win stuff. He's still good. Yeah, he's Will Smith. He's not going anywhere. If anything, he probably just got another action movie. Right. Torque on that.

The hit movement? Yeah. That would be a hell of a golfer. Yeah, 100%. Hell of a golfer. All of a quarterback. So we go to SC. How do we do it, SCE?

We registered our first year. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing,

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Frozen cons. No, exactly, yeah. So, yeah, redshirted SC, sat behind Cody Kessler and then quarterback competition. Started that next year with Max Brown. It was another, you know, five-star kid coming out. I had to sit for a few years to wait a

shot, wait for his shot. And then, yeah, And then he ended up winning the competition. Ended up playing for three games, I believe. And then I started the fourth one. We lost that one. So we started one and three. And then we didn't lose a game after that.

Well, it was going through your mind when he won the competition. He was obviously, you guys going back and forth all camp. Yeah. When they tell you that, hey, you're not going to be the starter week one? Basically, what coach said was just, we got to make the best decision for the, team. And that was basically it. You know how it is. It was like very, we got to do what's best for the team. And what's best for the team is that max starts for us. Really? And so that was, it was very,

very simple, which I respected. Because I was like, how am I going to argue with that? You know, the coach thinks that he's better than me and that he gives us the best chance to win. Like, do I disagree? Yes, obviously. But that wasn't. You know, that wasn't for me to say. I just kind of took it and handled it how I handled it. And that was really it. And so you weren't pissed off at all by that? I will.

So I'll go back a little bit. He did mention me getting a package for like red zone stuff and some stuff for me to like run the ball in the red zone on third and short, third and fourth and short. And so that kind of got me a little irritated. but I mean everything that he said was spot on I mean he was like he gives us the best chance to win but at the same time we envision you having like a red zone package

and a third and fourth and one package and so I was just like yes coach because I'm like a you know 18 18 19 year old I was just like all right sounds good yeah I was much more mouthy from that I'm sure yeah my race for freshman they told me I wasn't starting I told the coach you go fuck himself yeah but hey that's that's how it works

sometimes, you know? I definitely said that in my head. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Sometimes he's got to let them know, you know what I'm saying? Things are going on your way. You're going to say, fuck you.

100%. That's the way the deal works sometimes. So the first three games go on. Yeah. And then what happens this guy? Um. He gets hurt, right? No, he just got benched.

Just shitty. Throwing in I-N-T's left and right. So he just, I mean, I'm still friends with his day. Max is a great dude. He's a great guy to shit on him. Yeah, I'm sure he's a great guy. He's awesome. Yeah.

I had to say that. But no, he is, he really is. But, yeah, that was probably the weirdest part, to be honest, because we were boys, my freshman year, because he was kind of showing me the ropes. And, you know, when I was going out at SC, we were kind of hanging out. And, you know, he was taking me to parties,

doing all that stuff, you know, Big Brother stuff. And then all of a sudden, we're in a competition together. And it was like, I guess that's over. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess we're not doing any of that stuff anymore. Not partying together anymore, nothing like that. So that was kind of the weird part because I was, you know, we had the same friend group, you know, boys with, you know, everyone on the team and then some of the kids outside of football as well.

But, you know, it's just part of the deal. And, yeah. So I thought the way that he handled it was insane, though. Just perfect. The way that he was just, he never even said anything in the media about me or anything. He just, you handled it like a pro. It just supported you. Yeah.

That's awesome, dude. I love that. So you play those games and then you go on, then you play the next year you guys win the Pac-12 championship, correct? Yes. Win the Pac-12 championship and then we get to the 2018 draft. And there's kind of the three guys that everyone's talking about,

Baker Mayfield, you and Josh Rosen. Yeah. And now you and Baker, well, Baker's pretty outspoken to it, but you seem like a guy kind of like keep to himself, don't say a whole lot, don't read a lot of stuff. Yeah. What are you thinking when you see Josh Rosen saying something, Mountlandish shit going to UCLA.

Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's hard. It makes, it just, it makes life harder. Yeah. But why does it make it harder on you? What do you mean? You said it makes life harder. For him.

Oh, yes. That's why I don't, you know, I choose not to. And like, honestly, like, I wouldn't, I don't know, just not in me to like do stuff like that. And now I do have, you know, I have great friends in a great circle, you know, great family that, you know, if there's some shit that I got to get off my chest, like, yeah. everyone has it.

You know what I mean? But going through the media and making a scene about it, that's, you know, it's just harder to live life that way. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, it makes it a little bit more fun sometimes. You could argue. It's fun if you do well.

Right. But if you're the 10th overall pick, getting traded the next year and then things have happened the way it's happened to him. Yeah, it's not a good deal. And same for Baker, too. He seems like he's in a bit of a deal right now. So of all three of those quarterbacks, you're doing the best. Yeah.

You're doing well. I don't argue. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. So Baker, I mean, Baker's got to find himself a new home. What did you think about him when he came out with like a see-a-later letter to the Browns even before they got Deshaun Watson? Yeah, I mean, it's a tough deal, right? Because you got, you got, you know, people that you think are loyal to you in terms of, you know, whatever it is in his circle at the Browns, coaches, owner, GM, whatever it is for him, saying that they're, you know, he's their guy, all this.

stuff, all the promises that they make. And then all of a sudden there's rumors going out, not necessarily rumors, but, you know, factual, you know, information out that, you know, they're looking to potentially get to Sean Watson. And, you know, that might hit a, you know, that might hit to the core a little bit for him. Yeah. And so that's, again, it's not, not for me to really comment a ton on because I don't, you know, I don't, I'm not in his shoes.

I don't know what's going on in Cleveland. But, yeah, it's a tough deal, man. As you know, it's cutthroat business. Yeah, 100%. I mean, not to get corny, but it is. Yeah. And you go third overall to the Jets. And was Adam Gase the coach then or was that the year after?

No, he was, so Todd Bulls. Todd Bulls was the coach. Todd Bulls was our head coach in 2018, 2019 season. And then, yeah, love Todd. And McAgnon was our GM. And they were the ones who drafted me, took me in. And then that next year, Bulls gets fired. They bring in Adam Gase.

And McCagin is still the gym. GM and then the next year they bring in Joe Douglas as the GM with Adam Gase as the head coach. So, like, hey, you hear all that stuff. Adam Gage is the dude that does like the weird eye thing, right? When he's getting, what his interview? Yeah. Yeah. Like, was he just a crazy person or what was the deal?

Adam's great. He's a good, you loved him. Great, dude. Yeah, I love Adam. Because I was watching, I was watching some stuff and I was watching a YouTube video of like the Patriots game, obviously a tough one out there. And then I was watching stuff after they're like, Adam Gase didn't do anything to help you. didn't do slide protections, no, like seven-man pros, no checkdowns, none of that stuff.

What was going on during that game where he, like, did he come and say anything to you or anything like that? Yeah, well, I mean, we just watched the tape. We talked about some stuff. And, you know, there were definitely some things where I could have done a lot more with the protection to help me out. But it was just, for lack of a better term, it was a cluster, you know, out on the field and trying to, you know, because Bill and that whole tree, Flores, Patricia, all those guys,

if you can't figure out there's zero pressure and you don't have an answer, we're going to keep bringing it. Yeah, when they bring seven up, you think they're bringing zero. Yeah. So you think you have to get the ball out real fast. Then all of a sudden they drop and they're only rushing three or four. Well, yeah. And then the next time they bring them all. And the one guy that rushes is the guy that you slide away from.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, there's just, there's a lot of, there's good ways to handle it. and there's bad ways to handle it. And, you know, we didn't, we didn't handle it the best that you could have. When you say that was stuff you could have done for protection. Yeah. Was it like a development thing for you?

For sure. Or you didn't know production very well? Um, I think it was just, um, kind of getting things lined up to start. And then understanding, okay, I have five seconds on the play clock. Like one of those like, and like, you know, I was trying to figure stuff out with the receivers, like trying to give them signals. And I think it was more just trying to try to. to, we should have been more in and out of the huddle than we were that game. I think that was really the biggest issue.

And then we started going on the ball and I helped a little bit. But I mean, yeah, we didn't have great answers for it. Is there anything you said to the guys like, hey, we got to get to the line faster so I can kind of dissect this thing? Yeah, for sure. I mean, that was one of the first things I said. And then we started going no huddle, which I did quite a bit of with Adam, which, you know, he did a lot of with Peyton in Denver. and so that was kind of that was kind of the go-to

if we were kind of struggling or in a rut we would go to the no-huddle stuff and try to get on the ball and create some tempo for us but then again like you start to go tempo and you go three and out it's the defense in a shitty position

real bad position another thing about tempo too is when you go tempo or a two-minute type of situation it usually vanilla's down the defense quite a bit because they have to get ready they have to get line up they don't have time to make those yeah so they were just bringing zero

the whole time yeah that was really putting the fucking pressure on you That was, yeah, that was, when we started going no huddle, they were like, all right, we'll just keep calling it. Yeah. And, yeah, it was just a tough day on. And you had the unanimous thing saying you were saying ghosts out there. Right. Yeah.

Like, hey, that's a tough meme. Yeah, it is. No, it's a, it's a tough thing to, uh, to handle, you know, to this day. But, uh, so when all that, when all that stuff cycling, what are you, what are you thinking about that? It's, it's interesting because, like, in our room, in a quarterback room, we would, we would, we would, We would see guys kind of like in the pocket. You know, you have some quarterbacks flinch a little bit. We would say, oh, they're seeing ghosts out there.

And so, like, I just, like, said that to my coach at the time, you know, when we were down 40 to nothing. Yeah. Because I was just pissed and didn't know what to say, to be honest. And it just happened. And they got it on live TV. So did they, were you miced up? Who was miced up? Oh, you fucked up.

Yeah. That's on you. I was hoping it would be like a coach or something like that. But you sold yourself out. No, it's for sure on me. I'll take that one to the grave. I'll take that one to the grave. No doubt.

Dude, that's got to be a tough deal. But hey, listen, everyone has bad games. It's tough. Yeah. No, 100%. And listen, that was the worst game by far that I've ever played in my life. And I own up to it.

Yeah. Yeah. Got to own up to it. But that week after, like, you play Sunday, and then Monday, you're just like, fuck my life. No, it was Monday night. So Tuesday morning.

Tuesday morning. Thank God it's a short week, though. You know, one less one to sue on it. Yeah, 100%. Because that stuff, man, when you have one of those games, like we talk about all the time, week one, you kind of sit there and we played at noon on Sunday. So I had the full week to think about,

I'm just a piece of shit now, aren't I? I'm just, I'm garbage out here. And then pay attention to the media. Oh, hey, listen. They start saying, oh, you know, you suck, dude. Yeah. Try to go find a different profession. It's bad.

And then people on Twitter, too, are just wild. Yeah, should I do something different? Maybe they're right. Yeah. It's, dude, it's, it's just crazy how people want to manipulate things. And if you go one bad game or something happens, especially being at quarterback, I feel like, it's part of the deal. But at quarterback, you live and die with the franchise.

Like if things are going well, it's like, wow, this dude's a stud, but look how great the defense is. Look how good. Why receivers are. But when things aren't good, they're like, it's Sam. It's his fault. It's the quarterback's fault. Does that seem fair to you to have all that kind of pressure all the time for

quarterbacks in general, not just for you? I think it is. for sure. Why is that? Money. I mean, the money that's, you know, there's... And a $30 million deal, what, $20 million signing bonus? It was something like that.

Yeah, you know exactly what it was. Don't do that. Don't do that, dude. But, no, but it's, again, like, I'm half joking about the money thing. But you get ready all week. And, you know, there's a reason that the franchise lives and dies with the quarterback. Yeah. Because you're the one out there.

You got the ball in your... hand every single play. And it really has become more and more as the game keeps progressing. It's becoming more and more of a quarterback league. And, you know, it's great. You know, I think it's great for the game, you know, like when numbers are going up, you know, passing statistics are going up. I think it's great TV, you know, for people to watch and all that.

But, yeah, that's kind of my take on it. But I really do think it, you know, some of it's not warranted. Don't get me wrong. There's some stuff that people say that's, you know, You know. Yeah, people put in that keyboard coach. 100%. I think they know exactly what's going on.

They really have no idea. Yeah. So that part's tough. And then, you know, there's sometimes where like some guy gets it like spot on. You know, he's like the keyboard coach. And he's like, he's like, dude, should have seen this like to the left. He should have slid it to the left and got the back out. You're like, dang, dude, he's right.

Yeah, I should have done that. That's so funny, dude. But, uh, but no, it's, it really happens. But, uh, yeah, man, it's, it's part of the deal. Do you do a lot of mental work at all during the offseason or anything like that? I started to a little bit a couple years ago. Just working with someone who not even for football. It was just to kind of clear my mind.

And then there's some, you know, just some low-key, like meditation that I would do. Like, just by myself, like in the morning or at night before I go to bed. Just clear my head. You use an app? Do you like the calm app or something with that? Headspace? A little bit. Yeah.

I just mess with it a little bit. if I feel like I need it or if I feel like I'm, you know, why am I feeling a certain way? Like, you know what I mean? So sometimes I feel like I need it more days than others. But I think all that stuff's great, though. Yeah. I think there's, I don't think you can talk enough about mental health, especially in the NFL. Why do you think it's become such a thing lately?

And in the last three, four years, it's really, the mental health has people have talked about so much more than they have in the past. Yeah. I just think there's so much more attention around things that, wouldn't otherwise get attention because of social media. You know, you have such a, you've such more of a, you're just kind of a fly on the wall in anyone's life now. You know, if you follow whoever it is, like Dak Prescott, you know, talking about mental health, I think is great, you know,

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He's playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Like, you almost feel like he's invincible. And then all of a sudden he comes out with, you know, all these mental struggles that he's been dealing with. and, you know, you don't realize it, but a lot of people deal with the same stuff, you know? Huge actors, a bunch of different people. Do you think that, like, the mental side of things

has kind of been brought up more because, like you said, so many people have more access. And, like, a lot of these guys and, like, the old school dudes played 10, 20, 30 years ago, like, this is so soft now, but they don't realize that it used to be a newspaper clipping, and that would be your news and what happened in the game before. And you wouldn't see what everybody else is saying, but now to click up a button, you can learn what everybody's thinking about you always.

Great point. Yeah, that's a great point. I think it is different. I think everything's just different. Yeah. I think to, no, there are, there are sometimes where I'm like, okay, that, you know, that's pretty soft, you know, some of the things that would happen in terms of, you know, guys, you know, missing practice for one thing or the other, you know, I think there's, there's a lot of, like the basketball talk, I think is very interesting. Like when you hear, when you hear guys like Michael Jordan and Larry Bird, criticizing guys for like missing games during the middle of the season and you know I get some of that

but now you know you look at guys like LeBron who like to do that and LeBron's in what his 19th, 18th, 19th year he's a unicorn He's a freaking machine And so when a guy like that sits out a game and gets a bunch of flack for it I'm like

dude you can't you can't really give him shit for missing a game yeah you know look at what he's done with his career. Look how he literally brought Cleveland up from nothing. He brought Cleveland up from nothing. And then also like Michael Jordan, you, everybody watched the documentary, the last dance. And he would, you know, have a couple beers before a game, eat a pizza. And that's it. Like a round of golf. Yeah, you'll play around a golf the day before game. Can you imagine playing around a golf the day before game? I can't imagine playing a round of golf in general in my life. Yeah, that's a hard ass sport. Play 18 holes.

I mean, I can't do. I know those couple guys in the back. Four hours. Dude, I'm out there. I play three holes and I sit in the cart and I'm like, I can't do this. some whistle pig, and I and I just move on. There you go. There's the plug. You got to plug it a little bit, too. I haven't even talked about the Chevy Silverado, the most durable reliable vehicle. But with Michael, dude, it just seemed like as things have advanced more in science

and how the body works and all the things you can do for your body now, I think in basketball you play so many games. LeBron, especially at his age, too, to take a couple games, sit and not play. I mean, I think that's the move. Now, you would argue that people pay good money. They work super hard to come and see LeBron. Come and see Kobe. Come and see those dudes.

Rest and peace, Kobe. But come and see these guys. But the same time, like, the whole goal when you play a sport is to win, whatever it is at the end, whether it's a Super Bowl, the NBA finals, all that stuff. And so I think that's a smart move by him to be able to do that. Yeah. Did you see that thing with Eric Church going to the UNC game? Yes, dude.

Oh, my God. What do you think about that? He just dipped in the squad. He did. He did, but at the same time. How's it not for the boys' move? A huge Eric Church fan, too. He refunded the tickets, though, of everyone that went.

Now, they were complaining about flights and hotels and stuff like that, which I get. But it's also one of, it's his dream, you know, to go see a UNC Duke Final Four. Yeah, and that was, what's his name's last game too, right? Coach Kay. Coach Kay. Yeah. But, I don't know. I'm kind of, I don't know.

I don't know if I want to take a side, but I'm, I lean towards Eric Church just because, like, it might be part of your dream to go see Eric Church in concert, but it's literally his childhood dream to go watch UNC Duke playing the Final Four. Yeah. So like where do you draw the line of like whose fault is it? You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, just to play devil's advocate, if you make a commitment to go do something and there's nothing restricting you other than a want,

like you signed up for it. You signed up to be a quarterback in the NFL. So regardless of how you feel on Sunday, you're going to go out there and play, I signed up to be a left tackle. You know, if I would have I just dipped, We're about to play the Ravens one day. And I'm like, hey, I love it. But this team's playing this team.

I really want to go see it. Hey, it's my brother's birthday. That shit doesn't happen. You know what I'm saying? A big Michigan, Ohio State game this weekend, guys. I'm not going to be able to go through. I can't go. Third week in November, I just can't play.

Hopefully the bye weeks then. Yeah. It's like, this doesn't work that way, you know? Yeah, for sure. But, I mean, Eric Church, especially in the country music world, he's a legend. Like, I love his music. I think he has three or four albums that just absolutely sleigh. but I don't know if that's like the

I mean I don't think it's the best move to go and do that now he can do whatever he wants with his life he's still going to go play that same venue probably a year later and sell it out and it's going to be just fine he's just going to catch a little flack right now and move on yeah it's tough dude yeah Eric Church thing is wild

yeah what do you think like the best way to like handle stuff like that is in terms of maybe not the Will Smith but like Eric Church and like other things that come out about people like Do you think it's best to like post right away? Or do you think it's, you just kind of eat it and then kind of let time handle it? If you're Eric Church, like, what would I say if I was Eric Church? I would get out in front of it like he did.

I think I'm a big get out in front of things guy. I like to, if I fuck up something, if I do something wrong, I feel like I have to tell everybody around me. Because there's a part of me that has like this anxiety about if I know I did something wrong. And everybody else here knows it did something wrong. there's like this barrier that like they're thinking it and I know it. And we're not talking about it. For me, I'm like, I just got to talk about it to make sure like this is what I was thinking. This is what happened.

And then that's just how I am. I think you can go a lot of ways about it. But I mean, there's a lot of stuff I see where I'm like, why wouldn't someone just say it something like this right away? Like if, you know, your agent speaking for you're in a contract negotiation, I like when I was doing my contract with John Robinson, and I just went and spoke to him. And they're like, hey, you shouldn't go do that.

You shouldn't go do X one. I'm like, yeah, I got to get up there and just see him face to face and be like, this is how I feel. Yeah. What are you thinking? And then it takes the business side of it. Now you're having a personal conversation. Yeah, I mean, I like to think so I'm still here, you know?

So things are going all right. Yeah. But what would you do? Would you let everybody else handle it? Yeah, you like that too? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's definitely in the move, dude. Should we do that tier talk now?

Because I know we have to do two. So we have two segments. There's the locker room talk and the tier talk, which is kind of redundant. Uh-huh. Okay. Five stadiums he's ever played in. Top five wide receivers he's ever played with.

God, that's tough. Well, I guess I'll give you that. What do you want to do? Definitely need some top five QBs to ever play at you. I'll do that for sure. We'll do that. Okay, so. I can do it.

The way busts with the boys work is we have tiers. So tier ones are the die-hard cats on our podcast, the ones to get tattoos. You guys see the guy who got a tattoo? on his thigh. No way. He had a B with the horns and everything. I love to,

if we could put up his little name in that picture in this video. Does this guy have a lot of tats? It looked, it was a bare leg. It looked like a bare leg. Outstanding tattoo, though, he had a great tattoo artist.

It's different if you're like tatted up. You know what I mean? Yeah, if you're gunned, you can kind of just do whatever. Yeah. You know, whatever you want. Yeah, no one's going to see anything. Right.

So he would be qualified as a tier one guy. Tier two is like you follow, you comment, you subscribe, you rate five stars. Okay. Those types of things. And then tier three are the people that kind of sit in the background. Then you see like a friend or something like that.

Hey, I heard you're doing pretty good. I had the podcast is doing all right. That type of thing. That's a tier three guy. Got it. So on these tier talk options, you have to give me your top five quarterback.

So I guess we're doing five tiers today, boys. Okay. In order? In order of who you want, hit the names. You can talk about them if you want. You don't have to talk. You can just hit us right away.

But I need your tier one, two, three, four, and five. Yeah. Of these names on the board. Yep. Can the audience see who's on the board? We'll put it up for him. Okay, that's fine. Yeah.

Floss is a whiz back there. Yeah. See a couple names coming out right now? I'd go Carson won. Carson won. Carson won. Okay. Yeah. Carson Palmer.

Why Carson Palmer? Um, I think just, I mean, he won a Heisman at SC. That's a first one of national championship. Okay. All right. Yeah. He hadn't. For a lot of people that don't know, he actually had a great career.

Had some injuries that he's dealt with and, you know, kind of handled it, I think, very professionally. Could have thrown some people under the bus, too, in terms of what happened in his career, in terms of some different things with some certain teams. But I think he handled it like a pro, and I just respect him a ton. And he's a baller. Then I go liner. Linear out two two. Yeah.

Yeah, liner's a stunned, man. We said before him and Reggie Bush, that little duo they had. It was unreal. Unreal. It was the sickest thing to grow up and watch them play football. Yeah. What about that name above, Matt Liner?

What do you think about that one? No, I don't recognize it. No? No. No, me either. Um, so I know, this is, this is tough because I know Mark and Matt, Sanchez and Barclay.

Yeah. So I hope they're listening right here and we can have a little argument about. I mean, Mark's much more handsome than Matt. Yeah, that's debatable as well. You think so? It just depends. You know, if you're into, you know. Bonds are Burnett.

You know. Yeah, exactly. That whole thing that Mark has going on. Maddie. Big NFT guy, Matt. Big NFT, Bitcoin guy. Love the Bitcoin. Shoot.

I'm going to go Mark. I'm going to go Mark over Matt. Yeah. God, how does Matt feel about that? He follows the pod. I know. I'm just going to go Mark just because, I mean, Matt did some great things at SC, but, you know, I think he would have won a Natty with that team that wasn't allowed to win a Natty.

Because of the sanctions. Shout up, E, Carol. But, yeah, Mark won the Rose Bowl and stuff. So Mark had a great career, too. So Mark and then Matt, and then I'd go Rodney Pete. You're not going to put yourself in that list. myself. Yeah.

Who's that? Oh, it's San Marl. And I said myself, but yourself. Sorry. Yourself. No, you, uh, no. I mean, I'm not going to do that. I don't even know who Rodney Pete is.

Rodney Pete, look up his highlights. Wouldn't he play? Sick player. I don't even know. But, uh, I've seen some of his highlights just being around SC. You're just being too humble on this podcast right now. No, dude. You played in the 80s.

Those guys are ballers. Oh, we play in the 80s? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here, dude. Totally different game. Leather helmets and shit back then or whatever, dude. He had a solid NFL career, too. I don't know.

It's tough, dude, because you didn't grow up with it and you don't know. And doing these tiers, too, are difficult because you've got to take away the NFL part because you just have to talk about college. I know. Because you think Mark Sanchez, you have the butt fumble, right? You probably put them out. I don't know. That's all I remember.

That's all I know. Yeah. That thing lived on the not top 10 forever, right? Yeah. months, years. I think it was retired. Look, you can't even see the film on this thing. It's so grainy.

This looks like NFL Blitz 2000. That's Rodney Pete at quarterback, right? Yeah. Okay, I thought so. Looks like him. That was a dime. I mean, you should have threw him in stride, am I right? I mean, it was a dime, dude.

You put it Rodney some dude that played in the 80s. No offense to Rodney, I'm sure. I'm positive if he doesn't watch this podcast. It doesn't matter what I say. But you? You never know. You never know, exactly. But you're going to put him over you.

You're the third overall pick in 2018. Yeah, dude. Ronnie Pizza Baller. Look at them. I don't know. We're also watching NFL highlights. If you go back to SC highlights, the way we're judging, I guess, the tier.

I want to go to USC so bad. They were telling me before you got here. Yeah. USC, Texas, or any SEC school besides Vanderbilt or Kentucky. How does Michigan feel about that when you say stuff like that? Well, I say when I was in high school. And then I had like an up and down deal with Michigan towards the end of my career there.

In terms of one of the boosters. No, I never got paid. Never got paid. I'm sure you did at Hollywood stuff. There's so much. You never got money. You never got a free meal. You never went out to eat.

And they're like, hey, go ahead. You're lying like a rug, dude. It's okay. We're out. You can't get in trouble anymore. I actually never got paid. Do you know guys in your team that did? For sure.

Well, go ahead. What you got? Use name, social security numbers. Let me hear the whole thing. Yeah, social security numbers. I won't name any names, but I'll give social security numbers. There you go. Yeah.

That's, I mean, there's lots of dudes. People get paid all the time. I mean, SEC, you know what I'm talking about over there, T? Yeah. Hey, it means more. Allegedly. You think Tennessee's paying dudes out there? Yeah.

You know what I mean, dude. Yeah, that's right, the NIL thing. We'll do locker room talking a little bit because they said they wanted us to do. This is all get cuts up, too, so it's going to sound way better. We'll do locker room talk in a second. So you get drafted to the Jets. What is that fan base like before you got traded? Before I got, so when I got drafted.

Yeah, when you got drafted, a couple of years there. Yeah? Great. They're love like that. I mean, they'll let you know when you fuck up. There's no question. But they just seem like they're like on par with the Eagles. Yeah.

No, it's a very, I mean, they're devotional. fans, man. Like, there would be, there would be games where, you know, where season's not going great. And they would, the stadium was, I mean, pretty, pretty solid. It was fun to play in, loud. Dude, it was a great fan base. Loyal.

Loved them. But yeah, you know, things don't go well and they'll let you know about it. Yeah. I respect, honestly. Yeah, your face, though. Yeah, that's true. You're playing a little vanilla on me right now, and I know there's a little something behind that they're probably pissed you.

off. Those Jets fans. I mean, yeah. You know, there's a lot that, you know, people would say stuff and, you know, but again, like I said, like, when you're in the social media world and people are talking so much shit online, you respect it so much more when people say it to your face.

Yeah, there's only been a handful of times someone says it to my face. Right. But Jets fans really do it like that. All the time. Yeah. It's got to be tough. You're going to a little deli out there, grabbing a sandwich. There was like... There was a place. I love, so I love this place in New Jersey.

I'm not going to say the name. Yeah, no free shoutouts. I love that. 100% yeah. And I don't live there anymore. But, no, great people. But there would be people that would, all the people that go there are Jets fan. Like, they have like the old school, like 80s, Letterman jacket.

Like, you know, I'm like, did you play for the Jets? They're like, nah, I'm just a big fan. And so they're actually trying hard hats. Like they're all the fireman ed guys. So, no, but like great fans, but they would definitely be like, hey, what the fuck are we doing? Like, can we, can we get the ball to, can we put Demarius Thomas out there more often? Like, when he catches the ball, he does something with it every time. Yeah.

And it's like, hey, you're not wrong. Like, I hear you. But he's dealing with some hamstring issues right now. Right. But they don't care about that at all. No one knows about. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And so it's just stuff like that. But honestly, it was, it's fun to have those conversations. You know what I mean? Because they're like critiquing, like, what we should do and strategy and stuff like that. The part that pisses me off is when people judge, like, my game, like how I'm playing. Then I'm like, hey, bud, like, go strap it up. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, you're a fan and I respect you being a fan.

And you can talk all the shit you want. And I'm not going to do anything about it at the end of the day. But, like, take it easy. Like, what if I was like, hey, like, the house you just worked on, piece of shit. Like, you're so bad at tiling. Like, you should really go get another job. Really think about your profession. Yeah.

You know, it's like sometimes you just want to say stuff like that, but you can't. Why not? I mean, yeah, I could. Yeah, I'm not going to. No, I'm with you. I wouldn't say that either. Yeah. Yeah.

It always sounds so good to think about because you're on that, on that Twitter. You see somebody say something like, yeah. Like even now, I feel. a coward, you know what I mean? Yeah. Damn, like... He said, Now I feel like a coward.

Like that guy, that guy that's sitting here listening to that podcast like that, the Jets fans like, now I actually know what he wanted to say to me, but he didn't. Yeah, oh, there's an actual tiler out there. No, I don't know. I don't know.

Probably was, Carpenter. Like, yeah. Yeah. Dude, that is a fucking tough deal when people talk shit like that. Because you think they think they can do it. You go out to a bar and people say something to you and they're like, hey, what? Well, everyone's the critic.

It's like, well, why aren't you the coach? Why aren't you doing this whole thing? Because they can't. Love the fans. I don't want to feel like I'm being harder than he is. You're being so nice. I feel like I'm being a little too much of an asshole right now. Yeah, it's like when we were talking about Max earlier.

Yeah, yeah, I feel bad about that too. I owe him a written apology. I just kind of shitting on him right away. You're like, oh, he's a great guy. I'm like, yeah, I bet he is. Just playing both sides of the fence on you. So when you started hearing trade rumors about everything, how did that process go?

Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own. podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers... This is how you... You guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy,

not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman. with the Inner Cosmos podcast, and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series

to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car, and then my car got stolen. I was shoplifting. I was having panic attacks.

I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill. And it's hard to be present. We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety and John Hirschfield about obsessive-compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what

we can do about it. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30. You shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting balance.

and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food.

Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. Their practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Like, did they tell you, hey, we're thinking about trading you? Did you hear it from the media first? What was that whole process like?

They were just like, hey, we got to figure some stuff out. When I was leaving, this is exit interview, like right after the season. So they don't know anything. They might know what they want to do, but they don't know. exactly how they're going to do it. So they just tell me, hey, we're going to, we're going to look at, you know, people in the draft and, uh, free agents and like, you know, we'll be in touch. And so right, right when they said that, I was like, okay, like, it's a wrap.

So. And how'd that make you feel when you heard all that? I was just like, you know, I think you guys are making a mistake, obviously. You told them that? Yeah. For sure. Fuck yeah, dude. Nice work.

But like, you know, at the end of the day, it's, it's not, you know, that's not my call. So if, if, you know, they don't think I'm the guy for that. them, then, you know, it is what it is. But, so I just kind of reached out to my agent. I was just like, hey, like, I'm not going to pay attention. I'm going to, like, not pay attention to social media at all. Just, like, let me know what happens. Like, I was like, if you want to, like, tell me rumors, like, I'm fine with that.

Like, rumors that are real, not just, like, bullshit. So, yeah. So I was just like, let me know if anything changes. And then got a call. I don't even know when, but, uh, I think it was a little bit before the draft. And they were like, yeah, we're going to, or it was from my agent, first of all. Literally, it was crazy.

So my agent calls me, he was like, hey, like, the Panthers are trading for you. It's going to come out here in a second. And like, right as he's saying that, my phone rings, I got a call from Joe Douglas, the GM with the Jazz. I was like, hey, like, the GM's calling me. I got to pick this up real quick. And so Joe called me and very respectful. Just pulled me straight up what the deal was. and I was like, all right, you know, sounds good.

No, no, no, thank you, nothing. You're just like, all right, see you? No, he was like, hey, we appreciate everything you've done for the organization ever since you've gotten here. But we're going to, you know, move in a different direction. Yeah. And, yeah. So when we were talking about how, like, we like to get in front of things,

like when somebody knows something that you don't, or you know that somebody knows something, when you're going through that process, when you talk to the team and they say, hey, we'll let you know how everything goes. And then between that and before the draft, you get traded, how are you processing those emotions of, like,

wondering, because you know, you're not looking at social media, but at the same time, you know there's stuff out there saying X, Y, and Z. Because, I mean, it's a huge media market with the Jets. People talk about them all the time. Yeah, I mean, it's tough, dude, because, like, you... Yeah, what are we doing?

I know. I'm just kidding. Fucking clown horn going off. Just I'm a very popular guy. I was joking, by the way. I know you weren't to worry. It's all good. Taylor's like, I'm going to kill this guy.

Yeah, he's like, fuck this, dude, man. Get him out of here. No, but it was weird because, like, you know, I have that conversation, the exit interview, and then I just go about, you know, my business as usual. And I'm like, because they hired Robert Sala, the new coach for the Jets. And I'm talking to the OC, like Michael Flore and Matt's,

brother and then Greg Knapp you know got rest of soul but I mean we were in conversation for you know up until I got traded basically about the offense what we're going to do that next year yeah so when they're calling

you're talking about what they're going to do were you like oh I'm safe um no I mean because I knew you know like I said in the ex-interview I was like okay I feel like these guys are leaning you know in a different direction

so I always knew that deep down but you know like anything I do, I was just like, I'm just going to, you know, put everything I got into learning this new offense. And if it works out, it doesn't. If it works out, it does, it doesn't. Yeah. And that was just kind of my mindset going into it. I was like, I might as well, like, keep myself busy, learn the offense and work out and do all the normal things that I do. And, you know, because the worst thing is like sitting on something, you know, just, just sitting, you know, waiting to see what happens.

It's like, just keep yourself busy. That's how I kind of deal with stuff like that. honestly. Yeah, my plow through right in the middle guy. I got to worry about and figure it out. I got to know what the hell is going on in my life. But I respect that too, though. I respect what you're talking about.

Yeah. Look at us. Back on the same page. 100%. You insulted my phone and me. And now look at us. We're back to being best friends again. It's so popular.

I love it. I have three text messages. I think they're all for my wife. So you get traded to the Panthers. The GM calls you and he says, hey, appreciate everything you done, blah, blah, blah. What is the next pro? What is it like when you're getting traded?

Like, what does that work? Do you go immediately to Carolina? Yep. To figure it all out? Yep. So obviously talk to the GM, talk to Coach Rule, went to Carolina, met everyone, met. There were probably like four or five players that were actually there training. So met some of the guys.

Talks some of the guys on social media through text. Had a dinner with some of the guys as well with like GM owner, head coach, a few other players that were there that were in town during the office. season and I was just there for a couple days you know did the whole media thing you know sitting in front of the locker putting the jersey on and uh yeah and I flew back home and started learning the offense nice and so you live in California in the off season yeah it's a beautiful time it's great beautiful time being there great about a place four years ago uh redid it through my first season while I was in New York and then came back and been loving it for the last

three years. That's awesome. So this year you start off, you start off 3 and O. Things are going great. You get injured week, week nine, correct? Yeah, that's what it said. I don't remember. I think that's what it's said.

Yeah, we do have notes up here. Cam Newton comes in and takes a spot or whatever. Like, what was that process like with Cam coming back? And he scores a touchdown. I'm back doing all that shit. Cam is as obnoxious as he seems? Cam is the best. I take it back.

I think he's as he is awesome as he seems. Best, dude. No, honestly, I'm being dead serious. like so hard on us back in the day, dude. When he was originally with the Panthers? Yeah. God. I think they won the Super Bowl or went to the Super Bowl that year.

That was the year. I was on Wesley Woodard and Avery Williams. He was doing the dance and then Avery came up and got in his face. And he did it to him again. I know Avery, yeah. God. Yeah, Avery's a great dude. But ever since then, I was like, man, fuck that dude, Cam, man.

Just flexing on everybody. Guys got charisma. Like, no one's ever seen them. Personality like you've never seen in your life. So when you get injured and they bring Camin, what's your thought? you know, I was just like, okay, like, see what the deal is. Like, yeah, this is like middle of the season. I'm just trying to get healthy, honestly.

And I was just like, all right, like, you know. And yeah, he was a great dude, great guy to have in the QB room, great guy to just have a round in general, because his energy is unmatched. And then, yeah, and then I come back and play, and he's a great guy, like I said, just a great. Got to have a practice. Great got to have on your team.

I literally have nothing bad to say about Cam. Is he like, is he the way he seems on media always? No. He's not always that high up high energy. No, I mean, there's,

you know, just like anyone else. He's like, he's just going to be quiet and like do his work and sit in the QB room, watch tape, take notes. He's going to like be in the training room

with his headphones on and the hot tub headphones on, like just chilling with a towel around his net. You know, it's like a normal dude. But, you know, when he gets out to practice, when he getting ready for games, and there's times, you know, in the locker room and stuff where he gets very charismatic and very high energy and it's awesome.

But, yeah, he's just a natural-born leader. Yeah. He has that energy. And, yeah, all, I mean, just the things that I've learned from him in terms of, because he's, he's. dealt with a ton of stuff. A lot of, a lot of stuff.

A lot of ups and downs in his career and the way that he's handled it and the way that he talks about how he's handled it. There's so much respect. And yeah, it's a great dude. He was MVP one year. And then a couple years later, it's like, it's not going the way he wants it to.

Oh, yeah. He had trouble finding a job for a little bit. So to go through that kind of adversity. And he just seems like every time he gets on a team or doesn't think he's the same dude over and over again. You got to respect that. Oh, yeah. Got to respect.

then. So this year, I know you don't read a lot of stuff, but a lot of people are talking about whether the Panthers draft the guy, whether they were in the Deshaun Watson talk for a little bit of trading for the quarterback. Like, what is, you obviously, like you say,

you don't look at the social media stuff, which I'm not sure I 100% believe yet. I see some stuff around then, but I really try not to pay attention to it. Yeah. I don't even know if I try not to pay. It's just that I don't. Yeah.

I mean, because it was so, it was, you know, New York was on another level. So it was like, you know, I kind of figured out how to handle it there. And I was like kind of going back and forth, you know, between my rookie, my first year and my third year, it was like, I figured out how to best handle it for myself. Yeah, it was just not really paying attention to it. So that's why I've handled it. And I've kind of done the same thing this offseason where like I'm just trying to learn Coach McAdoo's system. and that's where I'm at. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So. Do you get nervous when the drafts coming up or anything like that with possibilities of them drafting a quarterback at six or? It's just, dude, it's literally like, this is a lot harder questions that I usually ask on this thing.

I apologize. This is good because no one, to be honest, no one ever asked me these questions because they're, you know, whether they're afraid or they don't, they don't want to bring it up, you know,

just in normal everyday conversation. Yeah. So, no, this is truly like the first time I've ever to answer questions like this. But, dude, it's like honestly, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it. And, you know, at the end of the day, someone's got to answer for it, whether it's, you know, whoever it is. So the GM, coach, whatever, if something happens like that, then it's like, all right, I'm going to see what they have to say.

And that's about it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I hear what you're saying, but it's got, for me, it'd be like a tough, that'd be a tough thing to kind of to feel and knowing when you're, when you're a quarter. Because you know, like, well, it's the Baker thing. Yeah, it's the Baker thing. And it's understanding your, like,

trying to understand your thought process of like how you're not looking at, you're not paying attention. You're just focused on what you're trying to do, which is be a great quarterback. The only issue is, like, if they, so they do draft a guy at six, you got, you know how the politics of the NFL work,

you know, that guy from Liberty, whatever his name is. If they, let's say they draft him, you got to sit there and know that, if you guys play well in camp, you might start the beginning,

but at some point in time, the owner, the GM is going to start telling the head coach, we got to get our first round pick to play. You know? And so that's got to, that's got to ruffle some feathers on the inside a little bit.

It's got to be tough to think that. I'll give you an example. So in 2000, ego, a shot to the ego. Yeah, it is a shot to the ego. In 2016, we had the number one overall pick. And John Robinson was the new GM. And everybody that,

all the analysts, the experts were saying that we need to address. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast, and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car, and then my car got stuck. I was shoplifting, I was having panic attacks, I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship.

To be present is a learned skill and it's hard to be present. We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety and John Hirschfield about obsessive-compulsive disorder. and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30. You shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations.

We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food. because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. They're practices.

And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. After guy, number one overall, offensive tackle and move me to right tackle. And so at that point, I won't play right tackle. It's nothing against right tackles. It's just I'm a left tackle, and that's what I'm going to play. and if they save to play right tackle, I'm out of here. You know, that's just how I work.

And so I meet with John a couple weeks. It's like the middle of April or something like that. He's asked me like how I feel about all this whole thing. And I kind of just tell them, I was like, you know, the first overall picks a lot of money to pay for a right tackle because I'm a left tackle. We go through a couple weeks of OTAs and they end up trading the pickaway. You know what I'm saying? So like that, for me, that's like when I had, like I've said,

anything that comes to me, I want to barrel through it so people know how I fear. I don't leave anything up to I wonder what he was thinking or that. You know exactly how I'm feeling and stuff like that. So just when the draft is coming,

it's got to be a hard feeling or wondering what is the possibility. It's nothing you can control, truly. But the thought of it coming up is it's got to be a difficult thing at times. For sure. Yeah. I mean,

it truly is, and this is kind of where you're not going to believe what I say, but just bear with me. I'll be ready. Yeah. It truly is like whatever happens happens. Because that's at the end of the day like it's out of my control. Yeah.

And I know that. And so I have enough security in myself to where I can be like I know I'm a good quarterback. I know I can be a good quarterback in this league. I've proved it. And I know there's a team if you know, something

happens that would want me. Yeah. So. I feel like he, The emotional maturity to handle like that is impressive. Like I think I go about, I'm not saying the way I do things is a mature way because I don't. I think it's like it can be a little reckless sometimes. And for you to have the head on your shoulders you do as a quarterback that you would want. Yeah, I think it's all about who you surround yourself with too.

That's how I've always thought. Like my parents, my family, my friends that I have back home, like all my high school buddies are all my best friends. So, you know, obviously there's guys in college that I, you know, I'm boys with too. but like I'm best friend. I have like six or seven best friends in high school that were kind of with me before all this shit started happening. So I just kind of roll with them. And, you know, if I start getting a big head,

then they let me know about it. That's impressive. So, you know, yeah, that's pretty much it. Having boys like that around you is really special to have. Definitely people that will keep in your place for sure. The locker room talk segment. is the last thing, I promise. Okay, so the whole point of the locker room segment,

it's a new thing we started last week. We started with Fred Taylor, and it's basically like something, like you're sitting with the boys in the locker room, a story, you know, whether it's off the field, on the field, that you don't usually talk about with the mainstream media.

We're definitely not the mainstream media, but with media type of people. We're not trying to be mainstream. We're definitely not trying to be mainstream. Buttoned up is not our forte. Yeah. But as far as the locker room talk... No one's going to listen to this.

No, we have millions of viewers Millions. Or it's not on mainstream. You know what I'm saying? We're not the ESPNs. Okay. I feel like, yeah. I don't know if I can even say that.

It's kind of a weird way to segue like a segment too. Like just to ask, hey, tell us a cool story. Right. You know, it's kind of tough. No, it's kind of funny. Is ESPN even, I don't know. Like, is TV mainstream media now? Like, is that, I mean, maybe it technically is,

but like podcasts and YouTube are starting to become a little more. It's definitely transitioning quite a bit. Because I know, like, I'll sit on YouTube for hours, you know, and not watch a lick of TV. So maybe I'm just different. Yeah, at ESPN, they let off like 100, laid off like 100 people a couple years ago. And it's, I mean, it's tough. Shout out all the grinders out there in the mainstream media, though, dude.

Shout out you guys. But the podcast, like, you see a Pat McAfee's doing. I think he's the most watched dude of all the places, right? Guys making, I would say, close to $100 million a year right now. I mean, Rogan? Yeah, Rogan's out there, too. but he's not, I mean, he's not sports, but yeah, he crushes CNN and NBC. We had Brandon Schaub on here.

And they were saying, like, all those mainstream news medias take like a week, two weeks to just gain one of his episodes. And he's putting out three of those a week. 13 million views. Talking. Just talking. He's, dude, he's incredible at having conversations with people too. Yeah. Incredible.

Could you have a four-hour conversation? Yeah, I think I could. You could, yeah. Well, it's usually, the conversation usually goes off of who you're talking to, right? Like if, for sure. If Joe's on here, he's on here, he's. He's an excellent speaker. He keeps things flowing.

And he loves talking. So I don't think that would be an issue at all. For sure. To be on with him. But locker room segment, sorry. Okay. Locker room talk. What kind of story do you got for us that's going to bless the bus?

You mean besides all the dudes running around naked in the locker room? Yes. Yeah, we can talk about it if you peek at meat too in a second. Okay. That's a big part of our thing, too. Brifts. Frifts only. No, I'm a lock eyes with that kind of guy.

Yeah, I think I've just moved on to not caring anymore. Hey, you got kids, right? Yeah, I got kids. Okay. I don't know what that has to do with anything. Oh, yes, wife and kids. You know what I mean? That's like, it's the best cover up I've ever had in my entire life.

It's outstanding. Yeah. Oh, man. Locker room story. I don't know if it's not like a locker room story, but it's happened after the Rose Bowl game. We were in the Rose Bowl and school's on winter break. And so, so, no. No one's at school.

And so we're like, what do we do? Like, literally, I'm like, didn't have a planned out, like nothing. Just won the Rose Bowl. Don't know what to do. Just won the Rose Bowl. Like, what do we do? You know? Can't go out.

You know, got my IDs taken away. If that's not allowed to be on this, we can take that out, I'm sure. Yeah, we won't. But all right. I'm just kidding. Got my IDs taken away. And so I was like 19, I think, at the time. And so I literally was like, what do we do?

So we go back an hour south down to my hometown and I literally all those guys I mentioned We just had a time. We had a time at At my buddy's house who had a bunch of people over. He had a sick backyard jacuzzi all that stuff. So all the stuff you enjoy when you're 19 years old. So We had a few drinks and I ended up we ended up thinking it was a good idea to DM Snoop Dogg Okay. Because he wasn't you know, know, he wasn't involved with USC anymore. And I was like, dude, he'd for sure respond.

All my buddies were, like, hyping me up. Like, dude, you just won the Rose Bowl. Like, you should be able to talk to him. And to this day, like seven years, however long it is, years later, no response. Snoop hasn't said a word. Nothing. He's an SC guy. Off, dude.

That is a tough feel. It cut to the core. I really thought that was going to go to, like, and he hit us up. And we went to his house. We went to his house. Yeah. Yeah. Did he read it?

So sorry. for everyone listening because that was a, you know, tough story. The story was Stoop Dog is good. Did he? Anything of Snoop, yeah. But, uh, nothing, dude. Not a, didn't read it or anything.

I don't know. He was probably like, who are these fucking kids? Like, just recording videos, like. Send him whatever. Yeah, just like. Snoop a loop. Dumb stuff. But, uh,

these dumb ass crackers. Just, yeah, that's probably what he said. Uh, but yeah, it was just like, send him a video and he just never responded.

And I was pretty devastated. Yeah, that's got to be tough when you put yourself. stuff out there. A hundred percent. Especially when you tell the boys. Yeah, you probably respond and they're like, oh, you for sure would. You should do it.

It wasn't even my idea. It was like one of my boys' idea. Yeah. And I was just like a couple hours go by and it's like, oh, it's not looking good for Sammy. Yeah, right. That was kind of like where it came from was like we wanted something to go do. You know, an Uber up to L.A.

Probably wouldn't be super cheap. But we're going to do it. If you're like, was like, yeah, like come out with the boys. You know, it would be a good time and just never responded. Parting with Snoop Dogg would be all the time. Would have been sick. You'd be so high. Yeah.

Regardless of whether you wanted to or not. Right. Yeah. Just second hand. Just second hand. Just stoned out of your mind. 100%. You think it'd be harder to smoke with Snoop Dog or Willie Nelson?

Willie Nelson. You think it'd be harder? Mm-hmm. Well, elaborate. Why do you think? I think there was a story that came out of Willie Nelson smoking. It was like Snoop and Wiz Khalifa under the bus. No shit.

Yeah. Under the bus. There you go. Yeah. I think Toby Keith wrote a song. about he'll never smoke weed with Willie Nelson again. Yeah. He was like that.

I don't know. That's what I heard. I think I heard that. Maybe it was flipped, but I'm pretty sure it was Willie Nelson. And those two, Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dog, they all like,

that's the thing. Those are the weed guys. Yeah, those are the weed guys. Them and Seth Rogan. Yeah, no doubt. Seth Rogan does get after it, doesn't you? Listen, dude, I had an outstanding time. I think you, I hope you had a great time.

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