Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Shane Gillis Talks Notre Dame Football + Outdrinking Joe Rogan
Episode Date: August 16, 2025Recorded November 5, 2022 | We dove straight into Notre Dame football, his time at West Point, the Joe Rogan bump, his showing at the Yak’s Case Race, and whether he would be interested in colla...bing with Payoff Willy on a future gambling show. This was recorded in a classic college house Airbnb, and the entire episode matched the vibe—so lock in, Boys, and let’s have a day.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well, we didn't invent it.
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On this episode of Best of the Bus, the man himself, Shane Gillis, makes his long overdue
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This one's raw and as funny as it gets.
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Welcome to bustle with the boys.
What do we even want to fucking talk about, bro?
We talk the Irish, dude.
We talk Irish.
We're in South Bend right now.
like it's south this is south ben like it's exactly what i thought it would your attitude
you've got such a good attitude dude you think this is bad you've got a great attitude i was telling
my friends i was like before i was like wait to meet this guy he's getting high energy football energy
dude he's a football guy yeah you're not a fucking non football post you weren't hype about the
fucking i'm upset about the wind i wanted to show my friend notre dame i wanted to show him like
to me you're showing him nutter day this is netherdame true i called you you like i'm in the i'm in the
indoor facilities right now, dude.
Where are you at?
The indoor facilities.
I was literally showing all the boys where I ran my first four,
5, 4, 5.40.
I mean, running 4, 5.40 is hilarious.
That's so fast.
That's so fast.
That was a sophomore in high school, bro.
Yeah.
When you get the head, like it.
It's so funny, dude.
Charlie Weiss was sitting in the golf cart with all those rings.
Yeah.
And you had a photo op.
After you ran your 40, you could walk over and do a photo op.
With Charlie Weiss.
Damn.
It was just like a...
Too bad he didn't work out for Notre Dame.
Is it?
I liked a lot of the Weiss era guys.
No.
Jimmy Clausen.
Jimmy Clausen's my guy.
Maybe the Weiss era guys because he's a good recruiter.
Yeah.
But you guys had so much talent.
Like nobody, you guys never did shit with all that talent.
Yeah, they did never do shit.
But I don't know, they could have won a couple of BCS bowls.
Notre Dame gets matched up in BCS polls like you wouldn't believe, dude.
Other than this last year, Oklahoma State.
actually, only Olelema State was supposed to be in the playoffs
until the last play of their season
and then they get matched up with Notre Dame.
Do you look at who Notre Dame gets matched up with in BCS polls?
You'd be shocked.
You guys had your, yeah, but you guys were in the playoff when you,
it's not like...
No, I know, but I'm talking back in the Royce era during the BCS,
literally during the BCS era,
Notre Dame's matchups would always be
whoever literally got left out of the title.
Because it'd always be an at-large game.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But that's kind of like,
you guys get to do your own independent shit.
I know.
But then they get fucked in the bowl games.
But if you're a good team, you end up handling the bowl game.
I tried my ass off to be a Notre Dame fighting Irish guy.
Did you know that?
No.
Yeah.
I grew up.
I grew up.
I went to Catholic school until fourth grade.
Our principal would go to a Notre Dame game every year and bring back souvenirs.
So I grew up a Notre Dame fan.
I went to their four-day camp two years in a row and went to their senior invite camp to try and get an offer.
And I was like a, I was like a rebound guy.
So when guys didn't commit at the Army All-American game our senior year, that's when I got offered.
And they offered me as a fullback, not even a linebacker.
Like, I tried so hard to be a Notre Dame.
Damn.
They fucked up so many.
Dude, Luke Keakley wanted to be one.
Really?
All of them, dude.
I think Sean, what's his name from Penn State?
Sean Lee.
No shit.
Everybody wants to be a Notre Dame.
Every white linebacker.
Every white line.
Yeah, yeah.
Linebacker you.
Granted.
It is.
I mean, that's, that, that was a fucking wild take right there.
It is Penn State.
That's a dumb take by me.
What's that?
Linebacker you.
I said linebacker you, but that's false.
Notre Dame?
No.
Yeah.
I was saying that, but I'm saying that that's definitely not.
It is Penn State.
But yeah, bro, I wanted to be a fucking.
That's a white linebacker dream, dude.
But you got to give the coaches credit.
That's tough to weed through which white lineback is going to be good.
I think it's, I think I'm probably one of Charlie Wess's biggest recruiting messes of all time.
You see a guy run a white linebacker.
running four or five you got a fucking offer yeah sophomore year high school that's a hard work that's so
hard to run four five as a one guy yeah uh you couldn't really be on our tour
yeah what's oh fuck dude yeah so i'm trying to get uh we're like doing this tour for the vlogging
and everything like that and i asked if uh Shane and his squad can be on the uh go on tour with us and
I was told no they passed on me literally they I my the response is uh it's uh it's
Isn't he spicy?
And all I said was he's a comedian.
He's a massive Notre Dame fan.
Wait, what?
They said, they said, isn't he spicy?
They said, isn't he spicy?
I said, he's a massive Notre Dame fan.
He's a comedian.
They say, yeah, based on, you know, some of his shows and Catholics, it's a no-go.
I'm a pro-Cathlete.
You went to West Plains?
West Point, yeah.
West Point, yeah.
That's a 4-5-40, white running back line.
That's what it takes to run a four-five as a white guy.
You got to say things like, you went.
the West Plains.
What was your, what was your 40?
Dude.
Laser.
Laser.
I'm not kidding.
It was like a five.
I swear to God.
How big were you?
I was about, I was probably 2.90 at this camp.
It was a scout.com in Morgantown.
Dude, scout.com.
No joke.
I might have run of, I think it was a 58, 59.
And I was like under six.
Nice.
And I had a coach.
Well, you know how it is with the fucking hand time from your coach.
Yeah.
He'd be like 5-1.
Yeah.
Be like nice.
I don't know 5-1.
Put out recruiting tapes.
He'd be like, Shangela, 6-3-290 pounds, 5-140-1-40.
And then I go to a camp to like 6-2.
I was like, holy shit.
I'm not going anyway.
Did you have offers?
I think it was Army.
It was Army Temple in Eastern Michigan.
Those were the down to the bottom three.
You got fucking offers down.
I was down to the bottom three.
Were you a dog in high school?
No.
You can be honest.
I was this in high school.
I fucked around
I was just big I played
I played double A Pennsylvania
football was small
Were you one of the locker room favorites
Were you like the vibes guy
I mean I was the captain
But I was like
Let's skip working out today right fellas
Let's go fuck around
You know you were a captain
Yeah
That's fucking sick
It's pretty sick
You're right
You're one of the only guys
As an adult
That's like yo that's fuck
You're the high school football captain
That's sick
Sorry
I thought you had to be laughing.
I thought you're the cat's in at West Point.
Oh, no.
I was at West Point for three weeks.
What?
I showed up, dude.
The vibes were not chilled.
Those guys, they were trying to work out so hard, dude.
You quit after three weeks.
Yeah, I got there and cried and went home, dude.
That was my military service.
I was sworn in.
They shaved my head.
I started crying, and they were like, you can leave.
I was like, all right, I'm out of here.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Oh, that is fucking hilarious, bro.
And then I went to Elon. I played one season at Elon.
I would love to know who your roommate was at your three weeks.
at West Point and be like, hey, what did you thought of?
It was, uh, it was my room.
It wasn't my roommate at West Point, but I was in the class with, uh, Villanueva
that tackle from the Steelers.
Oh, no shit.
Me and him were in the same class.
So we got recruited together.
He was like six fucking ten.
And he went on to become like an army ranger and then a 12 year NFL vet.
Yeah.
I was just in my parents' house.
My dad, we'd be watching the Steelers game.
My dad was like, no, that's a man.
He was like, like, review.
using the kneel during the natural anthem my dad was like that guy's tough i'll sit in there
damn dude i'm trying to plug in the xbox 360 in the basement i got ncua 14 you still
fuck with uh villeneuva no i didn't know i didn't know have you talked to him since like no no no
you know you're i didn't talk to him since i cried you're comedic as soon as i cried i left bro
we got the villanueva the dudes got he's got some jaw work on him that's no that's no what his face
No, the dude can talk
For hours
Like the deepest shit, bro
He can go down any rabbit hole
Yeah, he's smart
He was a fucking army ranger
Yeah, we got baked
We were at the Pro Bowl
Obviously I wasn't a Pro Bowl guy
But I was at the Pro Bowl
You were hanging out
Yeah, we were hanging out
My man was just
Dude, we were just
We talked for like three hours bro
Yeah
He saw you cry
No, I don't think he was
He wasn't in my squad
Thank Christ
Hang on, let's get this straight
Did you actually cry?
At Westmore
I did cry
But not walking
they were shaved. Probably not around. No, no, no. No, not while they weren't shaving my head.
You're not a bitch like that. No, but one day, dude, after like, yeah, you find out pretty
quick, you're like, fuck, I fucked up so bad. This sucks. Yeah. Just because of like the culture,
like, all the shit you had to do all the time? Yeah. Yeah. You're going to be like to do from a full
metal jacket. I was close, dude. I was close. Just sitting on your fucking,
yeah. She's getting the shit beat out of you. It's soap and your, the pillow.
Well, that's the other thing. It wasn't West Point's boot camp is not like that. It's not like,
it's not Vietnam Marines boot camp. It's fucking West Point is designed for dorks to,
it's for kids who got 1600s to become troops. So it's like, is it bad that I'm not aware of that?
No. I think you would, you wouldn't imagine that it's not that hard. West Point's boot camp is not
that hard. Okay. It is if you're 300 pounds and don't want to be there.
Like the hardest.
They make you do like 10 pushups at a time and then jog.
Most of it's just standing still.
Were you strong as fuck?
No.
I'm just curious.
I'm really curious about my guys football background.
I wasn't.
I had a good frame.
I'm long.
Could have been,
but I had no ass.
I had a flat ass.
Oh,
that's so tough,
bro.
That's the worst.
Yeah,
that's just a guarantee like that guy's can't be good at football.
When your lower back sticks out furthering your ass,
I still got that going.
It's not a good.
my dad sent me a picture today because I did go on the tour sorry Notre Dame I did go on the
fucking tour uh my dad took a picture of me like looking at like the Heisman trophies it looks
like I'm taking a piss my fucking back sticks out so much further than my ass it looks like
I'm standing out of it anyway oh is this buzzing with the boys what are we doing this
buzzing with the boys this is this is fucking good stuff because I felt
The bros aren't laughing.
They're sitting there.
Dead silent, dude.
You guys need to start fucking laughing.
You guys are too cool for school.
We got five guys sitting around.
We need an audience.
We need a little laugh.
He's working some bit.
I'm trying to work out some bits right now.
I like the Minnesota always has fucking Muslim running backs, dude.
Yeah, we got the Nebraska Minnesota game.
It's fucking 10-10.
The defense, the black shirts are dead.
Kind of pink shirts, dude.
Yeah, we're not.
Not to be homophobic, dude.
I don't.
No, I didn't mean to be home-oh.
I didn't mean to be homophobic.
That's not even homo.
I'm not even talking homophobic.
I'm just saying you ain't got to call us like the pink shirts.
We just got to say the black shirts are kind of dead right now.
We're figuring it out.
We're in a rebuild year.
Unfortunately, you guys would probably give Notre Dame a game.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, no name would be favored by like 10, but.
Yeah.
Especially.
You can lose to anybody.
But your guys' off seasons are always like, oh, this is the year.
That's not true.
There's so many common misconceptions about Notre Dame football.
That's one of them.
That's one of them.
You can check the last eight years where Notre Dame's preseason rank and where they finished.
No-Dane finished higher until this year.
That's how it works, bro.
There's a lot of common misconceptions about no-day.
What's another one?
I mean, here's the truth.
The last decade, Notre Dame's been, so it's been what?
It's Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, those three.
Now Georgia has ascended.
That's kind of it.
LSU, kind of Oklahoma, kind of.
But no names in that second tier.
That's always right there.
It is what it is.
I think that's arguable, though.
Like, y'all's schedule is a little...
Look at the...
There's a fucking guy.
That's not a misconception.
Look at the strength of schedule every year, bro.
Every year.
Yeah, but every year the teams that are on that...
Google it, bro.
Every team that starts on your schedule, it looks nice.
But then as the year unfolds,
it's all these guys weren't that fucking good.
Like, well, you're going to claim Stanford and USC?
No. No, I'll claim fucking Clemson.
I'll claim Ohio State.
We won at Ohio State.
Got your ass whoops.
We were leading in the fucking second half.
What are you talking about?
That was a close game.
You guys ended up getting your asswops.
I think they lost my like, and maybe.
Was that right?
It was a close game.
Oh.
All right.
I might have been off.
That's one year, though.
If you look up, I swear to God,
no-deme strength of schedule is pretty intense every year.
They pick who they want to play, but they do pick, like, you know, they will play Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State.
Now it's been unfortunate that USC has sucked for a decade, but they're back.
Now it's, that's tough.
It seems like I'm getting improved wrong right here.
Let's switch it up.
How's life been since getting canceled at SNL?
Like, what happened at SNL?
It's just been good, right?
I developed a pretty nasty drinking habit, but other than that, shit's been pretty good.
Just, oh, man, I saw you on a couple of pods.
Everybody always asked about the S&A.
Dude, I look back on.
Before you got on the bus, it's just me and Taylor.
Taylor didn't know who I was.
He thought I was a guy that entered the building.
It was like, it's up, dude.
We got on.
And he was like, so S&L, what's that?
Like, yeah, I was like, goddam.
Also, it's one of my biggest regrets.
Like, here's what we need to address, dude.
First thing.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
We'll get to that.
Because I know what you're wanting to address.
that's one of my bigger regrets because I started listening to all your stuff
because we had our group chat going and everything else.
I started listening to all the shit.
I started consuming Shane Gillis.
And then I realized because I'd see the comments like,
these dudes don't even know who the big dog is for real.
And I'm thinking,
fuck,
like I should have done a little bit more homework.
But that's probably my biggest regret looking back on that pop.
That's totally fine.
Because we had a little bit of a shangilly bump.
You got an audience, bro.
I got the bros show up.
Yeah, they're nasty little fuck.
They'll hop in there, be like, who are these two CTE fucking retards?
Shane's a retard too.
These don't even know our big bro.
But could you, for the love of God, fix the fucking camera angle on the bus,
dude? For a fat guy, dude, that side angle is insane.
It's insane.
How would you recommend?
No, I'm, fuck it.
I mean, probably.
This is fucking, this end of the couch is,
sunk in, dude.
I don't know.
Hey, you do look smallest.
You're like sitting over there.
Hey, the camera angle's on the bus.
Like, it doesn't help me out, dude.
Fuck, I didn't realize I was slaps like that.
Now, you were right.
The bus camera angle, the guest angle is.
I was bummed.
It was hot in there.
My dark red.
The angle was up from the side.
I'm like,
yeah.
You know, the S&L was pretty tall.
fuck dude
i saw people after i did that episode they were like you you've been working out you look good
you looked insane on that episode yeah we were worried about you on that episode
so anytime they saw you after the episode they're like there you got not that bad
all let's let's let's let's bugger the boy's camera adds 40 fucking pounds
bro that ain't that's kind of true like we did uh
guys are behind the table sitting down.
We did the, uh, we did the bet the bus the other day and J.P.
wanted me to sit in like all different angles so he could like, so he could like, uh,
he could do something funny with production.
But I was sitting there looking at myself in the corner compared to looking to myself.
I unbutting my shirt to where my belly's hanging out.
And then I had myself in Taylor's chair.
And me on the couch, I look massive dude.
And then in the corner where I'm at, I look like a fit little boy.
Yeah, well, the couch, also the camera angle, you're the closest.
You're fucking just.
profile slouched on a chair like we could probably work on that no fuck it it's very funny it's
very funny just keep it dude it's funny Derek henry doesn't look like that no of course yeah
derogyn's literally a horse that's a fucking horse all right let's fucking the case race is that
is that all right yeah yeah let's talk about it dog we got to talk about nothing but regrets
i still regret it i heard you on uh i heard you on shoals talking about it a little bit i haven't
You're the only one that looked good on that.
And you...
I came out.
I did come out a little...
You were fucking hilarious on that.
Oh, man.
Except, like, nothing worse.
Like, I took some matter all.
Like, there's a rumor around that.
I just got the smallest little...
I had to.
You, you set a different bar, I feel like, for all the boys.
I ruined it.
I ruined it.
But I enjoyed it.
It was for them.
Dude, I had a good time.
But I feel like I was talking you off a ledge a little bit those next few days.
You had the scariest for, like, the next one.
I was done, dude.
that hurt.
Shane would text me like, hey, bro, I just, I've been reading the comments.
I just, I want to fucking take my own life right now.
That hurt, dude.
Because then that fucking Stephen came in and tried to fight me.
Bro, hey, dude, I was so hammered.
I didn't even realize that that had happened.
I didn't even fucking realize that happened.
I literally, I was like, we woke up because, you know,
as soon as something like that happens while you're hammered, it's done.
You're just like, all right, whatever.
That guy was dumb.
me and him talked about it immediately after it was fine yeah normally you would never remember
that but then it's on the internet and you get to watch that go down and then people are
man Shane should have fucked him up what a pussy he's like dude you think I'm gonna get fucking
I'm gonna get a wrestling match at barstool with face paint on hey it's us the Jonas brothers
and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news we created our own
podcast called Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys.
guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about
a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down
on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where
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the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source,
the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to
hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From
viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context
and ask the questions everybody wants answered.
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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis,
and I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast,
I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Jen she went.
I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lerna Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now
and actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Wasn't it like, boy, he was kind of pushing the envelope I felt like.
It took a while for it to even get there because you weren't even.
No, I wouldn't have tried to fight.
You weren't even being serious like that.
Because I'm over there to eat popcorn.
That's the other thing.
I didn't know what was seriously either.
So I was like screaming shit at him thinking clearly there's no way we're actually fighting.
I was like, I'll have you fucking fired, asshole.
You want to get fired, dumbass?
I will make sure you're fine.
Yeah, in hindsight, it did look like I'm serious.
So maybe I lost, dude.
I don't know.
It was nothing.
What do you feel like you would do different?
Nothing, dude.
I win again.
I would win again.
I will continue to go.
I'm defending my title every time they have that.
Would you, you feel like you'd slow it down?
Hey, because let's get, let's not get a twisted.
You were right behind you.
You guys were pushing the pace.
But you were always one ahead of us.
I know.
I tried to stay one ahead the whole time.
But in Rome wasn't drinking like me and me.
He didn't drink a goddamn thing.
I was 17 beers in an hour.
I was fucking retarded.
Nick and I were not the black eyed peas.
We don't say it like that.
Nick and I were like the,
an actual like full team.
Yeah, like trying.
Like I don't have to look him in the eyes and by,
hey, you got a drink.
Do you see this fucking machine over there?
You guys were working, dude.
Because I was blacked, bro.
Like, I mean,
We were all blacked out.
You, dude, I don't, I never, I never rewatched the full thing.
But what I remember was you trying to shake the hand of the delivery guy.
And it's one of my favorite things.
I'm like, you with no pants, sting face, face, like, I just want to shake your hand, sir.
And everyone's like, everyone's like, Will, sit down, dude, chill the fuck out.
I'm just trying to shake us in.
Oh, oh.
Yeah, I mean, you came out good because you're the bro.
You're the funny.
You're the nicest, funniest dude, but like, yeah.
We started watching highlights in the middle of the fucking case race.
We started throwing on Indomacan Su highlights and talking ball.
I love Indomacin Su.
The problem was...
It felt like the problem was some of the vibes of the other boys were off.
I don't want to blame them.
We're off.
I don't want to blame those guys, but I felt like they were saying weird shit to me.
Let's do it.
We're not going to blame them at all.
We're not in the blame type of game.
But let's just say we're in the film room.
Let's say we're sitting there.
We got the squaw.
We're running the team meeting.
Okay. The outside noise, that'll take care of itself. Listen, we're all about the fellas inside these four walls.
But if we're going to take accountability for what happened, I felt like KB was off.
He came in with some weird, some weird negative vibes because he was talking about the scholarships of...
With wrestlers and football players.
But he was trying to take care of like some rent stuff that was going on. So he had some weird vibes.
I felt like Sass's vibes were off a little bit.
Because I feel like Sass was, I feel like Sass was like you were kind of rubbing off.
on them a little bit. Yeah, but I was, I would, I, I tried to body Sass early, but clearly that's
out of friendship. Yeah. You, you, that would never be like, I felt like Sash was trying to like,
become a little bit more of like, you know, trying to make you laugh because you're the, you're the,
you're the big dog, you're the big dog. Well, see, that's the thing that hurts is that whenever I get
started, started getting calling like the big dog and like, that's what it seemed to have happened to
where they would be like, chain, chain, chain, is this funny? Is this funny? And I'd be like,
your alter ego like i can't i can't i'm not gonna i'm not the big dog like i'm a fucking moron i'm drinking
17 beers and pissing myself like i'm not i don't know i don't know and in some way in that in the
middle of it big cat's nasty big cat is weird nasty that big cat's a little nasty fucker yeah good
bro but he's low-key sticking the knife in you a little bit in the back yeah yeah he knows
he enjoys the drama he knows how to jab and he knows how to jab and he
He knows how to like pull back in the middle.
He knows how to do a jab and then in the middle of throw him the jab.
He somehow plays victim.
Yeah, he's good at it.
Yeah, he's good.
He stirs the pot.
Yeah.
He stirred the pot immediately.
He came in while I was getting my face paint.
It was like, dude, I didn't know Will and you had beef.
Yeah, bro.
We never had beef.
First of all, I know what you're doing.
So I just ignored it.
I was like, yeah, I do have beef with him.
Fuck him.
I'm going to fuck him up.
Because I mean, yeah.
But he was immediately.
And then there started me chatter.
there was like you think you can win this and like it got competitive people were like
no i'm definitely going to win i'm gonna be real i had nerves going into it
because i saw the photos are you a rogan the beers everywhere like oh this he's the big does
and shane hit me up he's like hey we're we doing this i was like y'all i was fired up to do i was
fired up to put on a show with you yeah and then when i saw you were doing it i was like
all right i'm in and rhone that was also my favorite part is toward the end you started turning on rome
he didn't fucking drink anything
he wasn't talking shit though he wasn't even talking shit
I know but you how can he talk shit when you weren't any part
I know but you just stood up he was standing over
him yeah
you didn't drink a fucking thing
just randomly a player starts attacking an equipment manager
he didn't do shit bro
would you do it again?
I don't know but at the beginning
when you first got out, you're like I would never, I felt like you probably never do that shit again.
I think we could do it and have fun.
Now that we've all done it together and know how bad it can go.
Yeah.
No money.
Money talk was the most embarrassing.
That's the most embarrassing.
Because I even joined Dan on some of it, too.
That's when I'm like, oh, fuck, you know it gets weird.
And out of hand.
That's the most crippling.
I don't even remember.
I don't even want to try and figure out what we said.
I don't either.
It was something about how much you make.
it was something about it was bad and then the pizza guy showed up and we're all like I'll tip him
400 fucking dollars and they got like insulting this guy was he was yeah I felt like it was
pretty insane it felt like one of those YouTube videos where they're like watch how much money I gave
this homeless guy he's like I'm just delivering pizza and will stands on I want to shake your
fucking hand it's so scary the the penis jokes that came out of that
Adderall dick.
The penis jokes that came out of that, bro.
I have JJ Reddick texts me the next morning.
Like, hey, what were you doing with your pants off?
How'd you know about that?
He's like, I have sources inside the building.
And then apparently all the yak, they have a group chat talking about my fucking,
not even a horn, like a little turtle head.
Dude, anybody's dick on Adderall is minuscum.
I just need that out there.
I need that out there.
That it was, we were also.
I might have been one of the guys pointed out and saying nasty things about it,
but for real.
Hey, I think you did.
I think he did.
Probably.
That sounds funny.
I don't even know how my pants got off, bro.
Just all of a sudden.
You're trying to show off your knee sleep.
Oh, and then they just ended up off.
Gotta keep the inflammation of A, which, by the way,
I had a workout now.
Yeah, I know.
You're like, hey, immediately when I got the workout with Atlanta,
I hit up Shane.
Yeah.
Oh, I got about that.
That was a nasty thing I said on the bar stool.
He's like, bro, you know.
I was like, give up, dude.
Look at you.
And it really said
And he was wearing face paint
Like
Oh shit
Oh shit
Maybe this guy's right
Yeah
Um
I dude
I love mine
His was really
His was good
His was good
Mine was the funniest
Looking
Yeah I thought
The way you guys
The way you guys
You need up
On the helmets
It's a funny look
Because Nick
Backed out on me
With the wrestling
I don't know
man fuck those yak
pussies
no I like them for real
those guys are the best
we gotta get
we just have a nice time
I think we gotta do it again
we're gonna do it again
unless the belt
unless we're the champions forever
me and Rhone
I was trying to get me and you on a team
and clearly looking back at it
like yeah be a bloodbath
yeah it would have been over
I was disappointing at Rone's intake
I legitimately think he had four
he was trying as hard as he could
no he wasn't
I know he wasn't true I
I was
I know you were
but in Rones defense
I would ride those coattails too
like the way
because we actually had you
in the last
yeah you guys were up like one
you literally just chubbed too
and one
you like oh you like
looked around like hey it's all good
yeah
hit both
and I was like
fuck next thing you know
I'm on a couch
having a heart to heart
with fucking sass
about stand-up comedy
I think everyone
had a heart to heart
with sass that night bro
talking about stand up
that's another thing
thing. I don't like the commenters going to
sass for that night.
He was getting a lot. Can you imagine being 21
doing that?
All the shit he had that he does do
and he's like 21. Like everybody I feel like
misses the point that
he's a young cat in the game. He's 21.
Dude, if I did a case race, I mean, it was bad.
I'm 34 and that was embarrassing.
13 years ago, that would have been nuts.
I would have cried. I would have cried.
And sitting around all those
dudes too, bro. Yeah.
Anyway
That was a good
That was a good topic
Irish clubs is minus four
Yeah I got Notre Dame one though
I mean it's obviously gonna come out after the fact
But I do think I do think Notre Dame's
I think Notre Dame had a chance
Until they banned me from their facilities
You got in though
I got in on the little back door
He was like he's like
I don't fucking need you guys
I was like hang on now we are team Gilly
We can talk about the Gilly and Key
Brokees my heart
How's that shit doing?
It's good.
What's that man?
The way you just kind of...
Now, dude, don't trick me into drinking and talking about money again.
Gillian Keyves did good.
That's good, right?
Yeah, I feel like you're kind of on the wave of like the, like,
maybe it's off, but like the Andrew Shulls where you guys kind of...
Yeah.
Yeah, you can just...
Put your stand up on YouTube.
You stand up on YouTube.
Seemed like life's been good since the whole cancellation thing.
Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
Hey, hey, hey, how much, how much has the Rogan, is the Rogan bump real?
No, Rogan bumps insane.
How many times you've been on Rogan?
I did Rogan like five times this year.
So that's like...
Okay, we ain't got to talk about money.
Let's talk about...
Let's talk about audience.
Like what, I need to hear something tangible about this Rogan bump.
Then I need you to get me up.
So I did, I did Rogan once, and the episode was not great.
I was nervous.
We talked about SNL.
I was just nervous.
I never met him, really.
So it was just a one-on-one, and it was like, it was bad.
It wasn't good.
Are you talking like night before day of?
You're just, night before I was like, holy shit.
Like this is, and it was the same, it was the week after I filmed my special or the same
week. It was very, I think it was the same week. I was in Austin. So it was just an intense week.
And I was by myself. I was standing at Tim Dillon's house that he wasn't at. So I was just in like a
mansion in the hills in Texas alone doing the most important things in my career and then going
home into an empty mansion like what the fuck. And then yeah, we did Rogan and it was like,
I don't know. I was just nervous. So you get done. It was like a fucking bomb went
off.
It was like that ringing like,
whoa,
I just died.
And you don't see,
if you have a bad episode,
you don't see a bump.
There's no real.
I mean,
you'll get a bump,
like 10,000 followers or something like that.
But nothing.
But then we started doing me,
Ari,
and Norman with him.
It's more of a party.
You guys did like,
you guys did like your own kind of case race.
I felt like.
Yeah.
Somewhat, yeah.
Unfortunately,
Ari,
yeah,
we just drank as much as we could.
already tried to drink with me and he died and then rogan tried last episode how that one got is that one out
it is but there was some editing going on dude really roguie's got on there and edited some things out
as in like saving showing how bad of an ass beating it was type of deal like that he no it wasn't it wasn't
the pride about the drinking it was the pride about how fucked up he was it was just fucking crazy
Well, we had a beer bong.
It was the end of the podcast.
We all started bonging beers.
Like this was the last one we did together.
Sorry, I'm losing my voice.
The last one we did together was like the first one that was like kind of sober.
Until the end, at the very end, Jamie brought out a beer bomb and we all started bonging beers.
And Joe's competitive.
And he was like, I can drink with you.
I can bong just as many as you.
And I was like, were you trying to tell him like, hey, listen, no, you can.
No, I was instantly.
I was like, let's go.
Dude, please, because I've never seen Rogan fucking obliterated.
Dude, we bombed like five or six in like 20 minutes.
He was, he turned gray.
His face was gray and he was like, but he was blacked out, but he was still in like podcast mode.
So we'd be like talking to the mic.
And we were all just hanging out.
The show was clearly over.
We're just sitting in the studio talking.
He was like, say that into the mic.
And we're like, Joe, dude, we can't use this.
we cannot use this.
His head falls into it.
We stayed in the room for, I'd say, five, five and a half hours.
And the podcast is three hours long.
So for two hours, it was just Rogan blacked out.
Like, take it out.
Come on, fellas, dude.
Jamie, pull that up.
Jamie, what was the fucking video I showed you?
So what's the, what of those bumps was like?
Those have been huge.
Massive.
Massive.
Like, do you go on like Gilling,
Keith's come out. You're like, yo,
I'm going to get on the, I'm going to jump. I'm going to hop on the pod.
I'm sure he's like, hey, you want to come on the pod?
Yeah, he's, dude, he's, yeah, there's a lot of those comics that are out there.
Joe's, Joe Rogan's, like, the man at, like, helping.
Right.
He'll help.
If he thinks you're funny, he'll help you.
It's.
You're a funny cat.
It's cool.
There's a lot of guys that are, like, big and famous that would be, like, you know,
try to keep the new guys down.
Yeah, I can't let you get too big.
he's he's one that's like delighted if shit's go well for other people is there like a
is there like little clicks in the comedian world yeah but it's all self it's all perceived
it seems like you're in the good click you it seems like yeah but it's all perceived like before
I was in this this group I was like fuck this group like the like you start the you in our group
and then you ascended to the rogan group no no no no no I mean before I was with the guys I'm
with now. So like
with Rogan and his all those
LA comics that were like
Rogan and Bert and Seguerah and all these
guys. Before I met I was in an open micer
in Philly I'd be sitting there like fuck those guys
they're not that good they suck
Yeah. Then he they're like hey you're pretty good
You're like dude you guys are the fucking best I love you guys so
I love you guys so much I was just being gay dude
I mean that's how it works in anything
In anything yeah it really is like
You know I mean? I do know I do
what you mean. I just thought you were about to drop
something right there, but then I saw you're thinking.
Taking a picture. I was just perfect.
No, I know what you mean. It's like
you're kind of like,
you're salty because you're not in the world.
You're like, it's a selfish thing. Yeah.
It's a self-defense. You're
projecting your own shit because
you know you're like, like, I'm better
than them. It's like, no, you're not.
I would say I'm better than people when I was like,
I had five minutes of material. I'd be like,
that guy sucks, dude.
And then you meet them and you're like,
fuck, I'm the biggest douche of all
time. Yeah, you're like, this dude's a good fucking dude.
Yep. But I do that as normal. I think everybody
I literally think everybody's like that. And then you watch them kill.
And then you watch him kill. Like, I remember there was a comic that I would like,
I like shit all over him. I was like, this guy sucks. And then I happened
to do a show with him that night. And he just murdered.
And I had to follow him. And I was like, Dave.
Are you not a lot of same since you've given him powers?
Yeah, I don't want to talk shit about. No.
See, I feel like if I talk shit on somebody, I was wrong about this motherfucker.
I think I've said it too.
them.
That's good.
But yeah.
So you're going to say it into the mic?
I'm just fucking.
How long we've been rolling?
I feel like,
because one thing like,
we're literally,
it's game day.
It was getting beers with my dad
outside of the stadium.
And it was a good vibe.
We had a good vibe going on.
I hated being like,
hey,
we had the pod lined up
and we couldn't get it.
We couldn't get it in this morning.
I do fucking appreciate you.
No, I've been excited about this, dude.
You guys fucking rule.
Bustin with the boys is it's the shit dude
You fuck with Bustin with the boys
I really do
I hate the Taylor couldn't be here
I know that would have been fun
I would have liked to have told him how much
I fucking hate Michigan
Duh
I fucking I fucking hate Michigan bro
Yeah because you were saying
When you were on the bus the first time
You felt like you weren't really
Like
Going at us
On moments where you would be like
You know you big though
You big though
No I was with Michigan
Here's the Michigan
They have half a title
since fucking Adolf Hitler was alive.
Half a title since then.
And here's the thing.
Like right now,
everybody's like Michigan's good.
They're doing what Michigan only,
they've had one win in the last how many years.
They beat Ohio State last year.
That's it.
Now all of a sudden,
everyone's like, Michigan stopped.
Michigan could beat Clemson.
What?
Michigan.
I mean, Michigan could, I feel like could be Clemson.
I know Clemson's not that great.
nice that's the thing like to me
climps is the fucking resumes you you think
you think Michigan's the most fraudulent undefeated
team I do
you hang on hang on so this is going to come out
I mean everybody's listening we got the buss and bowl
now everybody's listening we got the buss and ball this weekend
I'm big red dude I think the
you think we got a shot
no I think oh it fucking happened
it's 20 to 10
Minnesota's running away with this
rebuild year no I think Michigan's gonna run the ball
down your throats
I thought you just said you were big red, brother.
I'm big red, dudes.
It's going to be a tough one.
Michigan is good.
I'm not saying that.
You just said there weren't fucking good.
We need some juice.
We need juice going into the bus.
I just hate Michigan.
And I hate that just that one game,
which everybody in the world was cheering for it.
I was cheering for them when they beat Ohio State last year.
That was fun.
Fuck Ohio State.
I do hate Ohio State.
Unless Michigan beats them,
then I fucking.
Michigan's they're the worst dude.
I used to hate Penn State.
I used to think Penn State was the gayest team of all time.
Turns out it's Michigan.
Michigan, I will say this.
I'm surprised that Taylor being a first-round pick
and all the stuff he's accomplished in the NFL
that we can't get more than a couple,
more than just two sideline passes.
Yeah, you should be upset about that, dude.
You should go down there with an AR-15.
You should go straighten some things out.
He had an illness.
He had a mental illness.
No, I don't know.
Let's say Michigan loses that.
You can't do that in football, so that's a bad argument.
That's their one win.
Harbaugh, before that one Michigan, Ohio State win,
Harbaugh is on the way out, dude.
He has sucked the entire time.
So far this year, their only wins Penn State.
their schedule has to be dead last in the country.
It's the worst schedule I've ever seen.
But to just play devil's advocate.
We're all basing Michigan being good off of the one win last year.
But to play devil's advocate,
they took care of business with all of their.
Yeah, they've run the,
they've rushed from 400 yards against Hawaii.
Yes, consistently.
That's a good club back.
They beat the fuck out of who they got today,
Rutgers,
whoever the fuck they play every week.
It's unbelievable.
Now, as a Notre Dame fan,
yes, we lost to Marshall at home.
I'm not saying we're good.
And Stanford, you guys lost Stanford.
Stanford sucks.
I'm not saying Notre Dame wouldn't get
fucking destroyed by Michigan this year.
No name does suck right now.
I'm not saying it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
This isn't about Notre Dame.
You're trying to be an objective football analyst.
I'm saying Michigan is fucking overrated.
It's annoying.
And I hate to see teams get rewarded for having a soft schedule.
because that's what happens.
Alabama gets it every year.
Alabama gets what?
Rewarded for having a fucking weak-ass schedule.
They play one-away game every fucking season, dude.
It's insane.
Yeah, that's...
Now, they, obviously, obviously everybody...
Just start, yeah, yeah, you got really, you got...
That's a great point.
That's where he went to school.
Obviously, Alabama's...
They're the best team, without a doubt, in college football history.
Without a doubt.
They still get rewarded on some bullshit.
shit. Yeah.
That's all I'm saying. I feel like the ACC, bro.
Is it who's Clemson played this year? I don't know.
Syracuse. They played Wake. Wakes actually not bad.
Wakes better than every team. Wake in Penn State, Syracuse and Penn State, close.
Just as good as anybody Michigan's played. But I don't hear people saying Clemson's the best.
I hear people saying Michigan's great.
everyone's going Clemson kind of sucks.
That's fair.
Maybe I'm always Taylor is here to go back and forth about it.
Because I like I see I see I do see that side of it like I root for the blue just because obviously.
Your boys.
Yeah, boys.
Even though the.
And we need and we need the big 10.
We need the big 10 to show out.
I fucking hate the big 10.
See, I'm pro big 10.
But with the with the emergence of the SEC in the last couple years, I've, I'm becoming a big 10.
10 man. Why? Because the
SEC fans are just so fucking annoying.
I love white people.
Hey, that will be the end of the trailer.
There you go. No, I
Yeah, I just like the north.
I hate the fucking sad. This is southern
football is so annoying.
A bunch of white racists in a fucking stadium
being like, oh, you fucking yikes don't know it.
It's like, bro, you racist cuss.
Do you go to their game day experiences, though?
What? Yeah, I mean,
It's your rules.
It's a good time.
It does.
I just hate to see all those southern racists.
It just keeps benefiting off of black athletes.
Hey, you're a stand-up bit on fucking Bama, bro.
That's from the heart, dude.
Oh, Doug, that shit is so funny, man.
I was watching a fucking thing about Alabama's first black players, and they were like, it was
1971.
And I was like, Jesus Christ.
71?
The first black guy?
And in the bit, you're like, no one did it because they lost the U.S.
It was at USC, USC came down to Tuscaloos and blocked them up.
It's a bunch of black dudes from L.A.
And they were like, all right.
Let's tone it down a little.
Stop being racist for a couple weeks.
You trying to get in the gambling space?
Me, like, yeah, me personally, I like gambling.
Do you?
You like talking ball.
I do.
But, man, it's unbelievable how much I am wrong about football.
Hang on.
No, no, that's not even what fucking matters.
What matters is the passion and the conviction behind what you say.
Hey, you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, hey, how about this?
Would you make a trip once a week next year?
Fucking, maybe a little gambling show?
Perhaps, yeah.
Talk ball?
Yes.
I'm in the works right now with some of that.
So hurry.
Oh, really?
Get your offers in.
Oh, I'm just thinking, like, of the future, like, other stuff you can make.
Like, I enjoy doing the bet the bus stuff, like, doing my, the whole payoff with the thing.
But I think it'd be fun and, like, to talk shop, like, to talk vibes.
Like, we're talking shit.
I would just do
Like you ever watch David Tell's
Insomniac?
It's great.
David Tell would go to city to city
And he would get
He would find the weirdest places
He would get fucked up there
And show you the nightlife
And just do that with college football
Just do a blog every week
Or a vlog of like
We're in fucking Tuscaloosa
Here's the bar
We're in South Bend
We go to the linebacker
We get fucked up
Here's the picks
Here's this
Show the game
I mean that's a good video
Are you trying to do that?
Yes.
Buzzing with the boys.
There we go.
Buzzing with the boys.
Blacked out with Bojangles, chicken.
And that's the perfect way to do that.
That's the perfect way to do it.
Yeah, busting with the boys.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to us.
people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is.
Getting a racist statue removed.
And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is.
Getting a new one put up in its place.
I'm Akila Hughes.
And Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things.
As I was watching these statues come down,
I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority black city,
in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave people.
Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Your 20s can be so exciting,
but they can also be really overwhelming, confusing,
and honestly, just kind of lonely.
May is Mental Health Awareness Month,
and the psychology of your 20s is breaking down the science behind the biggest roadblocks we face.
I was six years into my career, the 80-hour weeks, and just the first one in, the last one out,
and I ended up burning out.
There was a large chunk of my 20s that I, like, was just so wanting to, like, be out of that phase out of my skin,
and I just, like, really regret not living in the present more.
You don't need to have everything figured out right now.
You just need to understand yourself a little bit better.
Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
