Bussin' With The Boys - Best of the Bus: Tom Segura Talks His Friendship With Bert Kreischer & His Start In Comedy
Episode Date: January 17, 2026Recorded: July 6th 2023 | On this episode of Best of the Bus, the boys sat down with legendary comedian Tom Segura for an all-time conversation back in 2023. The guys jumped right into football, ...with Tom breaking down his love for the game as a massive college football fan. He talked about playing in high school and shared a hilarious story about how he almost played in college. Tom also told some wild stories involving Ndamukong Suh, which Will was able to confirm or deny. After football, the conversation shifted to Tom’s comedy career. He walked through his journey from making funny videos in college to realizing comedy was the path he wanted to pursue. Tom described what it felt like to blow up, his progression from small theaters to selling out massive arenas, and the pros and cons of using streaming platforms to promote comedy. Will and Taylor, of course, asked Tom about his best friend Bert Kreischer. Tom broke down who he thought had the better work ethic between the two and closed the episode by listing his top three pet peeves about Bert. Each one was funnier than the last, capped off with a spot-on Bert impersonation you won’t want to miss. Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Finally tracked down V. Tom Segura.
We talked to you on FaceTime while you were shooting Two Bears One Cave one day.
Back in March, I believe it was.
We did.
I think we've been on text threads.
I saw you at the Machine Premiere.
It's been a whole thing.
And I thought I was going to do press run leading up to the fourth.
And I was like, I think I'd probably do.
like a stop in Nashville and then they moved it this week and I was like and then you guys said
you're going to be here. I was like, fuck yeah. Well, yeah, we had to, we had to pivot because we're fans.
We are massive fans. Oh, thank you. And when Taylor and I was going back and forth, I was like,
it doesn't sound, I was like, I was texting with your guy or you, we were in that group channel.
Like, it sounds like he might be coming through Nashville still, but the people in the bar so I was
like, oh, I think he's just doing New York. Then we found out you're doing New York. It's like, hey, we got to
get out to New York, dude. We usually come out here a lot anyway. So it was an easy little deal.
It's a fun. It's a fun stop, right?
It is. Usually when we come here, it's like we take the same flight we did this morning.
We, you know, 5 a.m. Cruise get here at 9 and then we spend all day here and then take the earliest flight out the next day.
It's kind of a, yeah.
You didn't get off and get out.
Do you do a like a little like, you know, enjoy New York?
Like go to an awesome place for dinner, that kind of thing or no?
No.
Really?
Usually like rip around the corner.
Like what was that place we went to the other day?
It's like right over here by the hotel.
Oh, I hate butchering it because it was like the small little like hole in the wall.
Sometimes those are awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Those are awesome.
Do you remember what it's called JP?
It's like pig something.
Yeah.
This shit kind of gives me anxiety, though, New York.
It's fucking stressful, man.
Where'd you grow up?
I grew up in Arizona.
Okay.
Small town Missouri.
50, 200 people.
Oh, yeah, this is a big departure.
Yeah, it's crazy.
You get off, you just, like, I'm on the highway, and we're in our Uber and we're
driving by.
He's actually watching her special on the way here.
And I'm just looking out at these apartments with the windows that are so tiny.
And I'm like, people just live in there.
They do.
They do.
They do.
They do.
in right now. It's chaos. It's living in chaos. And then we hit the bagel shop for us and
daughters. Yeah, we had a bagel shop and I'm thinking to myself, dude, this is, it literally
was like the scene of a gangster movie where two guys are like talking about. People are still
taking tickets. Yeah. We're sitting in there nervous. Yeah. Like, do we just wait?
I have the thing though where I like, I don't know, man, I don't have to live in a city like this,
but I have to be able to go to it like fairly regularly. Yeah. To kind of feel alive in a way.
I need cities.
We were having that conversation on the flight, like, growing up in small towns,
like you always think when you leave, like he went to Nebraska, I went to Michigan.
You're like, someday I'm going to be back in that small town.
Someday I'm going to be back.
And I went back recently.
And I remember sitting there going, brother, if I came back here and just lived here,
I don't think, I think I'm like, I've seen too much now.
I've gone outside too much where it's like I just can't go back to living that small town life.
It's nothing against the people that live it.
Could you live in Ann Arbor?
No.
No?
No, but it's more of like a,
it's a cool city
it's a cool city however
like I remember playing
and then seeing dudes come
like yeah I played here back in the 80s
and stuff like that
I don't think to myself man like go do something
sure don't let that be the identity
but you wouldn't it's also like
it's an ego thing that's that person
and like they're them choosing
to be like that's who I
hoping that that gets them something but you'd be going
there if you wanted to
to live life is what I'm saying you know what I mean
like you wouldn't be like hey
remember me
you know I mean
I'd be in Lincoln, fucking.
And wearing my jersey still.
Oh, you fucking know.
You guys remember the boat Polina era?
I got the best tour of the facilities there.
Oh, really?
Dude, that fires me up.
Don't they roll out the red carpet there, man?
It was awesome.
I saw Bert there last week.
I was like, hey, they take good care of you.
And they're like, oh, bro, they are the best.
It's one of my foot, because I'm, I love college football.
Like, I love college football.
I think it's all based on, like, kind of like your household growing up.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like kids who, guys who are like, I love baseball.
It's like, yeah, your dad love baseball, right?
Like, that's kind of like what they were exposed to.
So my dad loved college football.
So we were college football.
What was the team?
This ambulance or this fire truck is just broadcasting in New York, man.
Yeah, it's a podcasting in New York, dude.
Yeah, someone just got shot in the head right now.
Fuck, there's a strike going on, protests.
A March happening.
What was your squad growing up or still?
So there's a little bit of, like, I moved a lot as a lot.
kid but I basically became super hardcore fsu fan but I'm like think about it like I'm I'm born in 79
so like in the 80s is when I'm watching the game and like kind of understanding what I'm watching and then
we move to Florida so if you move to Florida at the height of in the 90s you're going to pick one
of the big three at the time and so I was just like big fSU fan it's funny because I was thinking
about this how when you hang out with like we talked to like
pro players. Sometimes they talk to you, like you could have to, like, A.J. Hawk was at my house,
and we were talking about, he knows I'm a big fan. And I was, I love, like, hearing, like,
recruiting story. Like, how did you pick, you know, what was it like? What was the transition? Like,
he's like, why didn't you, why didn't you play at FSU? And I was like, what? He's like,
that is such a football thing to say. I was like, what? He goes, why didn't you play there? And I go,
in the late 1990s? And he's like, yeah, you could have played there. I was like, what are you
talking about? Yeah. Who would I have fucking.
backed up Corey Simon.
Like, what are you talking about, man?
He's like, he's like, you could have played there.
I was like, I couldn't have fucking watched their jerseys.
They would have like, he's like, I go, you could, I think you're thinking, could you
have played there?
You could have played there.
I couldn't have fucking, it wouldn't have let me try out for the team there.
Did you play ball growing up?
I played in high school.
He's like, you play.
Were you a beast?
No, I mean, I was, I was decent.
I was, you know, I was started.
I played both ways, but I wasn't like, I got recruited by D2 schools and a couple
D3s. I was going to play and one of the coaches called me the week before camp in August. This
would have been my freshman year. And he goes, we're excited to see you. This is like a small
school in Virginia. And I was like, what? He's like, you're, you all ready for tomorrow? I was
like, I'm not coming to school there. And he was like, what? I was like, oh yeah, you guys
called in like June and said that I had to take a math class to go to school there. So I just,
I didn't take that class. He was like, you're not coming tomorrow.
Like he's like camp starts tomorrow.
I was like, no, I'm going to a different school.
He was like, what the fuck, man?
I was like, nobody told you?
He was like, no.
So he's hung up the phone.
He's like, whatever.
Yeah, he was like, I guess we don't have a center.
So you played college ball?
No, no, no, no, he almost played college ball.
And you said you went to another school.
I didn't play, okay, okay.
Not, but not for playing.
That is a D2 story, though, because like,
I don't know how it was for you when you met there.
I got there in June, my freshman year, before, like,
going to my freshman year.
You get there a couple months before.
And they did the shit out of you.
Or not senior, summer class.
Yeah, you take summer classes.
Like you get your first couple credits in,
dip the toe in before you really hit the full schedule
in the fall.
Because...
It's like the football players and the Asians
all take a summer class.
Yeah.
Yeah. And there's no doubt about it.
There's, dude, college football is...
I love that atmosphere, dude.
I just watched a video last night.
They had a...
It was one of those college...
Like, I followed, like, a couple accounts.
And they were recapping the 10 loudest moments
of last season.
It was just like random games.
And watching the sloth...
of the 10 loudest moments, I got goosebumps.
Like, I was like, oh, like, games I don't even give a fuck about.
Just hearing, like, because the pandemonium at those games is so different.
Like, NFL's, you know, it is the top, you're the best players, obviously the best game.
But the college atmosphere is so fucking bonkers.
Oh, you can't, yeah.
The college atmosphere is.
Like, you get the fans, they, like, have chance, and they do stuff in the fourth quarter, and that it's,
it is a totally different scene.
I'll go to all of them, too.
Like, people, like, I, yeah, I grew up a FFSA.
But like every time we're on tour, if we're in a college town, I always like tell my tour manager, call that fucking school.
See if we can do a tour.
I love the tour.
I don't give a fuck if it's SEC, Big Ten, Big, I just love being around.
And like, I just like coaches and like, you know, even like the equipment guys, they're always like so fired up about.
Yeah.
They're the best, dude.
And they fucking, they're like, they're like, they give you the tour.
They're like, these are the jerseys.
I'm like, give me that shit.
Take all the gloves.
We take it all the free stuff you can get.
Oh, fuck yeah.
You should do like the recruiting photos and shit too.
Like you should get fully suited up.
Oh, dude.
Put the wristbands on everything else.
The craziest thing.
Because I was in Buffalo and I got like a tour of the bills place.
And they have like, they did a new, they're going to do a new stadium, but they have a newer facility.
So for like, you know, it's an NFL's like facility.
It's nice, right?
It's like pretty modern.
They're showing us all this shit.
And they're going.
Like, it's pretty impressive.
We go to Baton Rouge and we're like, what is happening?
I mean, it was like, just.
Jeff Bezos's like version.
He's like, is this what a college thing's like?
Like, we were like, I mean,
we walked down this hallway that's dark,
and I'm like, what's going on? And it's like,
lit, but dark.
And then when you turn, you just turn
and these glass doors
automatically open, and then
it's like heaven. It's like
super bright. And you see a silhouette
of a LSU player, and you're like,
what the fuck? And you walk down the hall,
And then there's like these statues with different LSU gear.
And they're like, yeah, this is where we take recruits.
I'm like, yeah, they all sign, right?
And they're like, yeah, usually when they get to here, they're like, I want to come.
And then you turn into the locker room.
And it looks like Emirates, first class fucking, like it looks like a first class.
So, yeah, it's what we modeled it after, first class international chairs.
Like, and they go, we monitored that our players are not getting enough sleep.
So we encourage them to sleep here.
and then they had an air vent
like in where they put their shit
so that it never smells in the locker
like all this shit I was like
what the fuck man
it's like a hundred million dollar locker room
and I was like all right this is like
that's one of the best facilities I think we've ever seen
we're out there in the spring doing our spring tour
and we got the you painting that picture
like especially when you get through the sliding doors
and you're unreal right and you imagine like
you're 18 and you're like uh
imagine going to Oregon like we're
my school, 0-8-09 graduating.
And that was when, like, Oregon was at the top of their game.
New uniforms every single week.
New uniform styles.
Nike.
They're putting everything in there, and you see the facilities.
College facilities are so much different than NFL facilities.
I mean, I kind of go, like, especially for the guys that are, like, literally going from
one to the next, part of you've got to be like, the fuck is this.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
But obviously, the money goes into the players in the NFL.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all right.
Yeah.
The funny thing about Baton Rouge, and I love Louis.
But if you go on campus at LSU, you're like, this is maybe the nicest place I've ever been in my life.
Like the campus is beautiful.
All the buildings are the same color.
All the plants are perfectly organized.
You step one foot off that campus.
And you're like, where the fuck did I just go?
Yeah, yeah.
It is like a lot.
They're in their own world.
Well, we went to, my little sister went to Ole Miss.
And when you're in Oxford, it feels like like a, like a movie set of a college town.
Like when you're in and around campus, you're like,
Like, this feels like make believe.
Like, you feel like they're going to like, oh, all right, cut,
and they're going to move the fucking wall or something?
Yeah.
But then you, like, drive out of Oxford, and you're like, all right, we should fucking lock the doors.
This is kind of weird.
Yeah, fuck out of here.
It's crazy out there like that.
Mississippi, man.
What are some of the best spots you've seen since you like to go on tour wherever you go?
I mean, honestly, like, the LSU thing was mind bending, you know?
I got the Nebraska tour and saw a.
where Indomacan's check went.
That was nice to him to build the...
The house of Spears, like that weight room?
Yeah, the wait room's fucking...
When did you go?
Two years ago, I think.
Okay.
We were there at that time.
I heard some cool stories about him.
About Sue?
Fuck!
Yeah, they were like, no, he's fucking crazier than you think.
Let's hear a couple.
I don't even know if I should tell these stories.
I could possibly confirm.
or deny?
That it's like a real psychopath
playing.
Like you're like,
this guy's crazy.
Like,
no,
this guy is crazy.
Yeah,
but it's not like,
definitely in between the white lines,
but not off the field.
I don't know,
but what was that story
you told about getting a ride
to the airport or something?
And you thought he was going to beat
the shit out of you.
Yeah,
he said out like,
I'll pull the car over
and fucking stomp on you.
Because I was,
wait,
you're in a car?
Just putting a little...
Yeah,
we were having a lunch somewhere
and then when we were driving
him to the airport,
I built up, I mustered up the courage to bring up him stomping on Aaron Rogers.
I was like, you're going to, so you're going to say that the man upstairs knows what happened,
but you clearly stomped on 12.
And he's like, we can pull the car over now.
I'll stomp your ass out.
I'll stomp your ass out.
But, you know, that's just fun play.
You know what I mean?
He's not a psychopath.
No, not at all.
That's just fun.
It's just us being dudes.
It was all, all the stories I heard were like at Nebraska.
Because obviously, like, everybody's more aware of.
of the NFL stuff.
It's on tape.
Yeah.
Hey,
let's watch a compilation of Sue
trying to kill people.
Millions of you.
Yeah.
You're like,
this is fucking nuts.
It's crazy.
And like for a guy that big,
that strong,
and that upset.
Bro,
and he never got tired
in any of the workouts.
It was truly
unfucking real.
And even when they say like at Tampa,
because Sue went to Tampa.
Went to Miami.
Right?
No, no.
He also,
he also played.
He played at Miami, too, but when he played for Tampa, a couple years ago.
He's at multiple stops.
He was like Detroit, Miami, Tampa.
Right, right.
But when he was at Tampa, I was talking to Levante David, who is an unreal linebacker.
But I was like, yeah, what's Sue like in the locker rooms now?
Because we're all kind of like around the same kind of generation.
And he's like, like, Sue's one of the saviest businessman, like in the NFL, like in between meetings, right after practice, in between all this stuff.
He's like on conference calls, like handling meetings.
like Warren Buffett is like in his council.
It's insane.
Like the dude is super impressive.
He had an engineering degree at Nebraska.
But an absolute, to your point, an absolute cycle path on the field.
Like we were at Baylor and he got a, he got a penalty for tackling the quarterback too hard.
This was before all the protecting the quarterback stuff came out because he essentially like chokeslammed the Baylor quarterback.
It was insane.
Cole McCoy said he was puking up blood after the Big 12 championship because he got his.
There's a couple stories that I honestly would tell you, I'll tell you off.
I really don't feel like I should tell you.
Okay.
But there's the one that I think is fun to tell that I heard when I was there was like how,
you know, they do this thing.
It's so fucking weird that when there's bowl games, they're like,
why don't you guys like have dinner together the night before?
Like, right?
Like you're having,
like you're playing Texas in a bowl game.
They're like,
how about a both teams have dinner?
They put you in a banquet hall.
Yeah,
the banquet hall dinner.
And you're like,
what?
Yeah.
Even when you're watching it from,
you're like,
why are they having dinner?
And then like they're,
everybody's like a table away.
So I guess when for the bowl game that year, it was Nebraska.
I forget who it, maybe Kansas, Kansas State or something.
We play when Seuss there, Clemson and Arizona.
Maybe.
Holiday Bowl.
Yeah.
So there's some bowl guy.
Let's just say it's Arizona.
So then they go, all right.
And he's having his monster year, right?
Like he's having an unstoppable.
He's getting every award.
So they're at the like the ESPN people come to.
to like dinner and they're like,
how's the chicken? And they're asking everybody
stupid shit. And then they ask
the center
for like, let's say, Arizona.
Like, oh, you have to face
Indamakan's Sue tomorrow. And he's won
every award for a defensive player of the year.
How do you feel about that? And he goes,
I'm not that worried about it.
And he said that when I heard the story,
they said that all the Nebraska
guys, they were right, because they were all
sitting together. They just went like
like they just leaned forward.
And they were like, oh shit.
And they saw Sue just like, okay.
Like, they were there like, we already knew, like, right then that it was going to be a problem.
Yeah.
And he goes, in the game, in the game, Sue picked him up, like, basically over his head and threw him head first down onto his head.
On to the center.
And like, he had a neck injury and left the game.
Like, he, dude.
I mean, I was like, God.
Anytime you played Sue, like it was all, by the time I got in the league, Sue was out of Detroit.
And he was in Miami or whatever.
We played Miami like two or three years in Miami.
And they're like, there's always like older savvy offensive linemen there.
And they'd be like, whatever you do, do not talk to Sue.
Just don't talk to.
And I was, yeah, like my rookie year and stuff, like that was really mouthy.
And I would, I would talk to, you know, try to talk shit to everybody.
Yeah.
And then I tried to talk shit to Sue.
And he kind of looked at me in the center and the huddle grabbed me by the caller.
and told me to shut the fuck up
because I don't have to deal with him
and he's like shut the fuck up.
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Do not talk to him anymore.
And I was like, okay, fair enough.
He was like a three-year, I think it was Brian Schwanky.
Oh my gosh
The dude is a
He was like there are those guys in the league
That when they get a little older
They become a little bit more mellow
And I think he signed a massive deal
A hundred million dollar deal at that point
Then it was like just don't do anything
Don't provoke him
Don't provoke him
Don't poke the bear
If you poke the bear
Bear's gonna eat you
It'll be like cocaine bear
Yeah you'll be fucking done
What was your shit talking like
Like were you just like
My shit talking varied in a lot of different ways
Like I'd hit up with the classic
Like you know
You're a pushy
That type of stuff
Yeah
But then there'd be
times like the NFL is a super like it can be homophobic a lot of guys we don't play that shit in
the locker room so some dude be mouthing off to me uh we were playing the jags one time it was we're
switching quarters so like we're like walking in the middle of the field because we're like on the 30
yard line so we have to get the opposite 30 yard line and um one defense a line and a three technique he's
walking behind me like I'm here all day blah blah you can't block me and I turn around
I'm like bro you listen if that if you don't stop talking I'm gonna suck your dick yeah and
our center comes out of nowhere unprovoking goes and we swallow here too
And the rest of the game, he was like, what the fuck.
You fucking, you fucked them up.
Yeah, if you just say super gay things of the NFL players,
like, I've had other players like go from like the Raiders to the Titans
be like, hey, what's up with 77?
Is he actually gay?
Like, what's the deal?
Like, that's, it's a mind game.
Yeah, it's my game.
I mean, when I was at the Raiders was like, hey, so what's up with your,
what's up with your boy?
Yeah.
That's just my guy, man.
That's just my guy.
That's more of like, I champion everybody.
I tell everybody, it was a solid route.
That was good.
That was good.
Yeah.
I want, you know, I need as much as I can to, like, I got to sneak you at some point.
I've told the story before.
I played in high school against Heath Evans.
He was a fullback for, like, 10 seasons in the NFL.
He went to a really, we played at small schools in Florida.
And, I mean, he was obviously different than, like, the average person you played against in high school.
You're like, what in the fuck?
It's like hitting a bank door, you know?
Like, every time you're like, God, damn.
I mean, he was just like, he was built different.
He was clearly going to move on.
And but so he played at a school that like they were terrible.
He was the star player at a terrible school, like that we would beat them.
But he would still, he would play, he played like running back and linebackers.
So he would still have like 18 tackles and 230 yards, right?
But they would lose.
But every single time you, if you tackle them, I mean, it would take the whole team.
He would be like, that was a great tackling.
You were like, what?
And like we were so not, you know, like, like,
Who does this?
Sounds like Andrew Luck.
And he would like, he would pat us on the back.
He's like, great effort.
I was like, shut the fuck up, man.
Yeah.
He would do it.
It wasn't even for like a series.
It was the entire game.
Great effort.
Great block.
You did a good job.
Frustrate the shit out of you.
Yeah.
Every time you're like, what do you do?
And then he's actually, he was religious.
So he would say like God bless and like do prayer stuff.
And I was like, is this like, are you fucking with me?
The funniest thing we talk about like religion and football, which is,
There's so many religious guys.
So many religious guys.
But in the locker room after warm-ups,
there'll be rap music going on about eating pussy and getting money and doing drugs.
And then it'll cut.
And it'll be like, all right, prayer in the shower.
And everybody's like walking the shower and hold hands.
And then as soon as they walk back out, press play back in,
fucking bitches getting money and all that stuff.
And you're like, hey, does no one see the parody in this?
The NFL would never allow, I never allow this shit talking to air.
Yeah.
Because they release, you know, the miced up stuff.
But it's all edited and cut.
That would be such a fucking dream.
I always said I would pay it like a $1,000, like season past.
Like, oh, we can hear the guys on that.
Be like, hey, I'm gay.
Come suck this dick and swallow.
I'd be like, I'll-
The best money.
The best spent money you've ever had.
There's some great shit talkers out there.
I mean, DJ Swarenger, we talk about him from the Gamecox.
Like, what was it?
Was it you telling the story about him during?
The Outback Bowl.
Yeah, the Outback Bowl, pre-game and all that.
Pre-game are, our returners are catching footballs.
and he pushed one of returners out of the way,
caught one of our footballs,
and he kicked it into the stands.
This is that Tampa Bay Stadium for a bowl game.
And he goes, this is my fucking house.
Get the fuck out of here.
And I'm in the locker room just warming up
in this little white returner, Drew Dillio.
Shout out, Drew Dillio.
He comes in hot, mad.
And sure enough, it was Swagu.
That dude was...
Two-spooned swagoo, man.
He is different now, dude.
He was a different cat.
Whoa.
Dudes are just like that, though.
Some guys, it varies, man.
Some dudes do not say a word.
Some guys are super positive.
Some guys are super negative.
It's like you never know who you're going to get.
Yeah.
Just never know.
And it's how, I mean, I think, I think it is how the, the stress of competition and what you're about to do affects everyone differently.
So for some people to perform in that environment, it's, hey, shut down, don't say a word.
For some, it's like the stress of it makes them chirp a lot.
Some of them, like, I'm going to stay pot.
Like, that's why you just don't know what you're going to get.
But it's like, it's like the stress of the unknown, like the unknown, like the unknown,
of battle, right? Like, you don't know what's going to happen, and that it manifests itself differently
through everybody. Like, I mean, I've seen guys who were like incredible athletes, incredible athletes
shut down, like not talk. They're like, my game does all my talk, you know what I mean?
Yeah, which is a cool saying. That's like a Rex Burkhead. Like when Rex was at Nebraska,
he was just a baller, but the dude was like, you know, just head down. Yeah. Hand the ball the
ball of the ref, do his thing. And then when that guy does say something, it's so powerful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had a kid in high school on our high school team who won the 100 and 200 meter track
state championship.
This kid is legit fast as fuck.
I mean, he's the 100 meter champion in Florida.
Mm-hmm.
And he's our punt returner and corner.
He's 5'7.
He ended up playing at Citadel, a corner at Citadel.
But like he's 5-7, 160 pounds and looks like a fucking like a bodybuilder.
Like a Tyree Hill type.
Yeah, dude.
And you're, I mean, and you're in high school.
like this guy is fucking this is insane like his how talented he is and he was super religious and
they would he was a workhorse like he won games you know i mean like there's games we
definitely would have lost it like he took a punt back kickoff just and people you know when we
played teams with like those badass dudes would talk match it and he would always always just
hand the ball of the ref never said anything and then one time we played these punk mother like
these guys that were such fucking dirty shit bags.
And when they tried to hurt him,
and he popped up when he was,
you could suck on my left nut to this kid.
And we were all like, oh shit.
Like, Jay says that shit?
Like, we just couldn't believe it.
But everybody for like a week,
we're just like, going to practice.
We're like, suck on my left nut.
He's like, ah, it was just, you know.
In the moment.
I also apologize for it after the game.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
I spoke up during that drive.
I think it's insane how dudes can talk shit
and play at a high level
because I'm thinking like my conditioning,
can't take all that.
Like, I'm just trying to get back to the huddle, relay the play.
I'm thinking how these dudes just run the mouthful.
You have so much responsibility as a lineback with the green dot.
Yeah, like, and I, you know, you just like subtle jokes out there.
It's like, you know, I can't remember, but the first time we played, I know, like,
we tapped helmets.
But if I'm, like, tapping a white guy out there on the ass of my, I can't believe we're
out here, am I right?
Yeah, yeah, we get back to the fucking day.
I remember Greg Olson.
I've told the story before, but Greg Olson, I finally had my opportunity to start.
It was like my second or third game starting, I believe.
and I remember breaking up a pass over the middle
he just buttoned up over the middle
and I broke it up and did the little
I did the little incomplete thing
and then I webbed him like Spider-Man
he goes who the fuck are you?
What are you like third string?
And I was like, hey, I work for this spot man
I'll work for this spot
and then during the time how he comes over
he like taps me on the helmet
and he's like hey man I'm really sorry for saying that
like I know you work hard
I know this and that oh good
it's all good bro it's all good yeah
that is like fuck
that's actually impressive
to like hey man
I respect you
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
If I hurt you in an emotional way, I don't...
Yeah, yeah.
The weirdest thing is playing against people that you grew up watching.
Yeah.
Like, we played the Raiders, my second or third year, and Charles Woodson was there.
And I remember we were like, out of timeout, I'm like, hey, dude, and like, you're fucking awesome.
And it was so weird just to say it.
And he was like, thanks, young blood.
Appreciate that.
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm get the fuck out of here.
You gotta just go back to the other.
And you're like, how old?
He's like, I'm 42.
And you're like, you're fucking 42 years old.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
And like, I don't know if that's like, because you hear stories, but like, the stories about Woodson that people who said they're like, yeah, he just like is that, like, he's not killing himself in the weight room or like he's just that's good. That's good than everybody. Yeah. I heard he was like an absolute, you know, study. He was all about it, like the film room and everything else. That's the thing that impresses me the most to when I watch like these pieces on players. Because you just as a, as a, I
As a spectator, you just go like, oh, this is like a super gifted athlete.
We've seen, like, you see athletes and you're like, wow, this guy's so just blessed, right,
with his, like, physical abilities.
Is that when you hear how committed some people are to studying shit, and you're like, oh,
that's why they're great.
Like, they are gifted.
Right.
But the dedication is other level.
That's what keeps people in the league for a while, too, is just the ability to play from the neck up
and everything else because your body ends up breaking down.
Yeah, you guys stay on top of your body and everything.
everything else. I appreciate that.
You gotta stay on top of your body and everything else, but that is, like, that's where
the majority of the league, the guys that, like, stick around for a long time, you have to, like,
I love this shit.
You have to be, if you're not a starter, if you're not out there on the field, you have to be,
like, just a dependable backup and somebody, like, in my position, and then, like, play special
teams.
Yeah.
But, yeah, you always hear the stories about, like, some of the greats that people come from,
players that come from other teams and they're coming on your team, and they're telling
you about these guys that you look up to on other teams, and they're like, man, so-and-so's
in the, you know, in the building doesn't leave.
to like seven or eight at night and everything else,
and you're just kind of, like, fascinated by it.
Tony Gonzalez told me this thing
that I thought was such a cool, like little insight.
So he played, like, what, 17 seasons?
Yeah, he was nuts.
A tight end.
It's fucking insane.
And he's like, you know, I'm asking him like,
because he's like, fine.
Like, he just walks around.
You're like, you're okay?
And he's like, well, he goes, you know,
I figured out that, like, if I caught a ball
and I see the guy coming right here
and I'm on the sideline.
and I just like, you know, I cover up.
If he's coming this way, I'll just start to fall, you know, with the hit.
Yeah.
He goes, so a lot of times you would hear like, ooh, like, because it would look like I got blown up.
He's like, I was already going in that direction so that the hit wouldn't have the same level of impact, right?
Because if I lean in, I'm going to fucking lean into them, it's going to be a, we're going to hit and I'm going to feel it more.
But if I'm, I know I'm about to get hit this way
And I lean that way, he's like, it's less impact.
And I was like, oh, that's fucking, like, most people or a lot of people, I guess would go,
no, no, no, I'm going to like, I'm going to put my shoulder into this shit.
And he was like, I'm trying to minimize the damage.
He's like, I'm doing that for like 12 of the seasons I play.
Did the ability to displace ego.
That's a big displacement of ego.
Yeah, if you're, a lot of guys are like, I'm going to try to show how hard I can run this.
And then as you get older, you learn like, hey, this isn't forever.
how could I make this as long as possible?
Sounds like fucking did it.
Yeah, dude.
I saw Stefan Diggs shoulder pads
and they look like paper plates.
And I was like, how the fuck?
And the guy's like 5-7 or something?
Yeah.
And they're just like, yeah.
But like when he sees the guy,
he just like scoots down.
I mean, remember,
what's his name?
Is it Michael Bennett,
the D-Tackle for the Seahawks or the D-end?
Yeah.
Remember he would basically more like nothing.
Yeah, he would cut there.
There was like a one big,
shoulder pad and then a shoulder pad that one here he'd cut those off and tuck his jersey in yeah
were the baggiest jersey and shit yeah this is something i completely don't understand is like how you got like
when you start watching and you know like you play in high school and you're all padded up and you see
college and then you see NFL guys and you're like are there no leg pads like doesn't everyone aren't
everyone's legs fucking hurting like just like just like just the pants on you're like there's no
thigh pads it's like it's kind of swag pads hit pads kind of go away in college
Yeah, hit pads kind of went away in college.
You'd have like the girdles or whatever.
Yeah.
And then you kind of just go to a girdle or something that can,
with like the most small pad just to see like you're just making sure you don't get in trouble.
Like you're wearing the right appropriate attire.
Yeah.
And then eventually you'd just stop like really wearing anything.
That's really crazy though.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Because you're, you're shedding things as competition gets higher.
And as everyone is bigger, faster and strong, you're like,
yeah, just fucking let it go.
But also like, you know, I know a lot of people, it's like you,
you want to wear, you want to be like as light as possible because the game gets faster at
every level and everything else. So you're trying to feel as free as possible while also like
trying to be a little bit protected. And I think it plays into looking better too.
Yeah, I was going to say the legs are like a bigger, bulkier pads. It's like not a good look.
It's not all about looking good. It's not all about that. Some swag. You know what I mean?
You want to, I mean, you see the guys. We all got the socks, lower high. Yeah, yeah.
A bunch of little things on there. Like they're like there, like there are dudes in there hours
before the game. Getting their little shit right, the little black stuff. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, they do a whole bunch of stuff.
Absolutely. Anytime you get a comment like, hey, come on, man, you got to do a little bit better than that.
You're just thinking, give me right.
Give me right.
That might be the worst trip he gets all day.
Like, you're just like, man, they're kind of killing.
Like, you kind of want to look good.
You want to look like you can do something?
Yeah, yeah.
Like a dark visor?
I wore a dark visor.
Yes.
It's the best looking, the best looking piece of attire in the NFL.
Those are tight.
And they used to have, like, in the night.
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Indies, they had like the orange, like the reflective gold.
Yeah.
Back when they like allowed that, dude, I know.
Because you see a linebacker over the middle just like this and he looks like a, he looks like a Terminator or something.
Right? Like you just see gold reflective sheen.
You don't see eyes.
You're like, ooh, this is a badass look.
Like that shit was tight.
Just picturing like a Ray Lewis from my hand.
Yes, dude.
With the orange.
And then you see the little ring go down with that linebacker face mask.
Just roam in the middle.
That really is swag.
Like that, those teams were like, I remember when I was, when we were in high school, I went to the, you get taped up.
And I asked the, there was a lady that taped us.
I was like, well, you give me the Bruce Smith tape.
You remember his tape?
it would come over the hand
like it was like a boxer's tape
so his hand was taped in addition to
the wrist it was like wrist
and then here and she was like
no
I was like no she's like for what
I was like from my fucking hand
I was like I was like Bruce Smith
she's like you ain't Bruce Smith
That's so funny high school
high school trainers are hilarious
Yeah they're just like catching hours
Yeah yeah they want to tape
be minimal amount of people they possibly can
Of course but that day
tape goes away too in the NFL
tape does people
Some people, as you get older, as I got older
at least, I stopped taping my ankles, stop taping
Did you really? Yeah. I always felt
so much more like...
Stable? Yeah, secure. You started to learn about the body, though.
You immobilize the ankle,
then it puts more pressure on the knee, which puts more pressure
on the hip, and then it's the back and you're really. And what about
up here, though? Nothing either? I would
I went from tape and I started wearing wrist guards.
So you just kind of strap them on real fast, and then I broke
this thumb. So I'd put like a
little brace on there, and then I tape like these two
fingers. You remember everybody
having tons of shit on and then Reggie?
White just was like, just put the jersey on.
Like, just nothing.
No gloves.
And then just take people and go,
I always think it's badass when you see the dude
just have their like, like fingers taped.
Yeah, the fingers taped.
You kind of just wave on them a little bit.
I feel like I got half of guys with their hand in the dirt.
I think that shit is lame.
I'm thinking of like DBs.
Yeah, DB's got that looks hard.
But like a dude with his hand in the ground and he's got his knuckles.
I'm like, bro, you ain't come on.
Yeah.
Like if you don't wear gloves, you're a psychopath to me.
Yeah.
The thought of hitting somebody without gloves on.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I couldn't do that.
Can you imagine him though?
Like he would just show up completely nothing.
Mm-hmm.
And then take a like a 330-pound guy with one, with that hump move and go like this.
And you see the guy like just go falling down.
Fly.
Flying down.
Like he'd launch a guy like 10 yards.
There is nothing more embarrassing than getting put on the ground like that.
Has to be, right?
Unless you just catch one in the throat, you get put on your ass.
And then they make the sack.
And you're just like, dude, I am nothing.
What feels worse?
getting like having somebody stronger than you toss you or somebody so fast that they just are past you and you're like fuck that like they're they're back here and you're like what's just happened whiffing on somebody is tough but i feel like for me i could always like in my mind back kid you get changed these couple of things
there's no worse feeling than having another man's hands on you
and not have, you can't do anything about it.
You can't do it, yeah.
And you're just like, I guess we're just going to go where you want to go today.
Wow.
Yeah, that's a tough feeling.
That's the worst feeling actually ever.
It has to be too for like an old lineman.
Like I just feel guys in the trenches.
Because I know for me it's like you get outrun or you get beat on your feet.
I'm thinking, God damn what they were all right.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
God damn.
I know coaches over there like, we should not have a fucking ring.
Cover one with Compton in the game.
But like if I get, if I get bodied or something,
and you're kind of just like fuck on the way down.
But, you know, like Marshawn Lynch, we always get God.
Everyone gets God.
But I feel like as an old lineman, it's got to be like a demoralizing thing.
Like you just get manhandled in the trenches.
And you're like, you're a guy in the trenches.
That has to be.
Yeah.
When you stopped playing football, when did you start comedy?
When was that like, when did you know that was a path?
Great transition.
Thank you, brother.
That was good.
We just been fucking talking ball.
We've lowered as well enough.
It's time to get into dignity.
It's all I want to talk about.
I mean, so I get to college.
I realize, like, you know, I'm not, it is weird because it becomes like,
I mean, you have more of it.
Like, you know, it's like your identity.
You're like, oh, people are like, what are you?
Like, I play football.
Like, in high school, you're like, I'm a football player.
That's what you think you are.
And then you get to college and you're like, I'm not.
I'm definitely like, there's players going to team meetings.
I'm like, I'm ready to go.
I'm like, oh, I don't play football.
Yeah.
And then you're just like, I don't know.
I mean, I love doing comedy.
So I'm making, like, comedy videos, you know.
But, like, it's not even for, there's not, there's not, it's not, it's not, like, I want to share this video.
It's like, they're, they're like, make a video for a communications class that's boring.
Like, do a, do a video about, like, how, how, uh, how the security works in the building.
Like, you know, do it, like, show us that you can do, like, a transition shot.
And then I would make mine, like, a comedic version of it, you know?
And then there were, like, the teacher would be like, like, the teacher would, like,
the fuck is this, right?
Like, because I was trying to make it funny.
Right.
And then I, the more you do that, the more you're like, I like this.
I like this, right?
So I keep making like comedy-esque sketches, but like for assignments.
And then when I finally get out of college, I get out in 2001.
I graduate.
And then, yeah, in June of 2001.
and then I moved to L.A. January 2002.
Like I actually, I remember that I arrive in L.A. January 2002
on the day that it's a bowl game.
It's Ohio State Miami is playing that like a big time bowl game.
And then I start going to improv classes at the Groundlings,
which is like this renowned place where a lot of S&L people have come from.
I start doing that in like April of 2002
and I have guys that are in the class
that are like, you should try stand up.
Like they're just telling me, like you should try stand up.
You would like stand up.
I was like, because they did stand up.
And then a couple of them were like,
because I was like, what do you do?
Like, I mean, I've seen standup, but like,
how do you start?
So I kind of tail them.
They're like, just watch me.
I'm going to do spots tonight.
So they go and do like a spot here, a spot there.
I just follow them around.
And then one of them walks,
me into a place and like when the lady is like oh what's up to this guy nick he's like oh this tom
he's a comic and i'm like what's up and she's like oh do you want to do i have i have like an opening
next saturday you want to do that spot and i was like yeah oh shit and then she's like all right
you're booked and then it's just kind of and then i was like i'm doing a spot next saturday like i've
never written material or and so then it was just it was just on from like once i did it it is that like
addictive. You either are going to be like, I'm not doing that again, or like, I got to do that again.
And it was just like that. So that was 2002. And then it was just a slow, you know, I used to do like one
spot like every two months. And I'd be like, yeah, I'm doing, like, doing some standup,
like thinking that that's a lot. I mean, I just didn't know. Like, you have no kind of frame of
reference for it. And the, the big clubs seem like so intimidating. So I would just do like smaller shows,
you know, like someone would be like, come to this bar and do a show.
And I was kind of like scared to go into the clubs.
And then it just kind of just, you know, slow progression, like grew from there.
Yeah.
When did it like your first big break come with like breaking into the scene?
Well, I mean, one of my friends was actually working for Jay Moore.
And Jay, and he recommended me to be an opener.
And Jay let me do some openings.
So that was definitely a break because the end.
improvs, like, that own so many clubs, they, before Jay, I was like, can I, you know, work here
and they gave me a showcase.
I always tease the guy now whenever I see him.
His name is Matt Komen.
I go, I got off stay.
And I had a good set.
Like, you know when you have, there's no, like, you can be delusional, but I'm, like, I know
when I don't do well.
And I did well.
And I was like, what's up?
He goes, you definitely have something.
Like, just keep at it.
And I was like.
and that was it.
Like he wouldn't get,
I was like,
I was like, I was like, I just keep at it.
I'm like, okay, and he didn't book me.
But then when Jay
requested me to open,
then they were like,
now you can do spots.
You know what I mean?
Like he gave the green light,
and then they were like,
now you can do spots.
So that was a big deal
because then I could work more regularly,
get on stage more.
So that was one.
I did a couple of things on Comedy Central
when people actually watch.
to Comedy Central.
Yeah.
And like there was stand-up on there.
You're like,
the little 30-minute sets or whatever.
Yeah, that was,
I thought that was actually,
for some people,
that changed their careers.
It was called Comedy Central Presents.
Yeah.
And that was,
that was actually the goal, right?
Like,
the goal was to get,
because everybody who you fucking admired
had done Comedy Central Presents.
So like,
I just kept,
I mean,
that's all I wanted to do.
So I did a,
I did one of their shows,
It was called Live at Gotham.
It used to be called Premium Blend.
And then they made a new version called Live at Gotham.
It was here at the Gotham Comedy Club in New York.
I did that show.
That was supposed to be like the precursor to like getting a present.
So then you would submit.
What you do is you send in fucking tape or DVD.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
And you'd be like, here's my 30 minute set.
And then the lady was like, you know, you're going to get one, but not this year.
And you're like, all right.
So you'd work a whole other year.
Send in another set.
She was like, this is really good.
Not this year.
You're like, fuck.
And then the third year, I got it.
And then I remember I had a good presents.
Because some people, like, it's one of those things where like, it's like having like a bad combine outing.
You know, like you go, fuck.
Like I don't know.
I just didn't run well.
I didn't, I threw up 225, eight times.
Like this sucks.
Yeah.
That happens to people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're still good.
And so that happens on these tapings where you're like,
I hope this goes, and it went well.
And I remember the lady that was producing it goes,
this is going to change your road life, like touring.
I was like, fuck.
And I didn't want to like show too much emotion.
I was like, fuck yes.
And then they open the new season.
It's still popular at the time.
This is going into 2011,
I'm like the featured, like, highlight new season of comedy of presents.
and then it aired and, you know,
you see tweets and shit,
and you're like,
are things like about to change?
Man, shit didn't change at all.
Like, nothing changed.
Man.
I was like, I mean,
got your hopes up a little bit.
I mean,
and then internally,
this is going to change your life.
You're probably thinking,
this woman knows everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, and she produced all the Carlin specials.
So she's like, she's like,
I mean, the real deal, you know.
And she was like, you know,
she's like trying to like produce other things with me.
She's like, this is gonna, you're gonna see like your life change.
And I was like, you're trying to just like not get too excited.
It'd be like someone being like, you're gonna get a phone call tomorrow from the chiefs.
Like I know you're enjoying college right now, but things are about to change and you're like, okay.
You're just kind of like, all right, cool.
And then chiefs are like, who?
I don't know.
Like, you're just like, what the fuck?
So they, you know, you just keep going.
I remember like the big bummer.
was that I think a club was paying me 1,500 a week to do six shows.
And they went to 1850.
And they're like, see?
Your life changed.
You're like, all right, baby.
So you just keep doing that.
And then I did, I did in 2013, I shot my first Netflix special.
But it wasn't for Netflix.
It was shot on spec, which means you pay to, somebody pays for the production.
And then you have it.
And then they shop it.
So they sent it to like Comedy Central.
That's where you wanted to be.
people don't remember.
That's where you wanted to be.
And Comedy Central passed.
They were like, no.
And then they sent it to Showtime, and they were like, no.
And HBO was like, are you fucking out of your mind?
And then Netflix took it.
And it was like a consolation prize.
It was like, well, the USFL's back.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is wild the thing about now.
Yeah.
Because that's where everybody wants to be now is Netflix, right?
Oh, yeah.
Because it's just like, it's the eyeballs.
I mean, this thing is always changing.
We don't know what's going to happen in,
next year, five years.
I mean, I'm sure the landscape will change.
But for the last decade, it is Netflix.
Netflix is where you want to be.
And so when they told me we're going there, I was like,
I was like, you mean the place you send DVDs to?
Fuck.
Yeah, that's what it was.
And it was a slow, it was the thing.
It wasn't like it came out.
And then I was like, oh, shit.
It was slow.
Like, it was like, I would do a club and they were like,
you sold like some tickets this week.
I was like, oh, really?
I wasn't even thinking about the special
because it was like five months later.
And then all of a sudden they were like,
hey, you sold out the club?
And I was like, for real?
We weren't like, oh, it's the special.
We were like, how did that happen?
And then it started to go like, oh, this special
has gotten traction.
I was like, no way.
But it was very slow.
And by the end of the year, they were like,
you're selling out every show at the club.
It was fired up.
It was getting that kind of feedback.
Like, man, it's really starting to get around.
It is fucking.
It's amazing.
It is amazing.
And you,
you know,
it's like you don't want to boast.
You don't want to go like,
fuck yeah.
You're just kind of like,
is this for real?
Like,
you can't believe it's real.
You can't believe it's real.
Because like,
it's so hard,
you know,
to grind,
like,
you're just like working at it.
And at the time,
I mean,
whatever,
that's 10,
I was 34,
30,
like,
you've been doing it for 12 years.
You're like,
I don't know if it's ever going to change much from this.
And then to find,
like,
to sell out.
the clubs and you're like you just can't believe that people are out there and like full and they're just
they want and they're like they like I saw your shit and it's fucking they love it and you can't believe it
and not to mention that you get like real checks you're like this is a real this is crazy real money
it's crazy yeah every level of it is crazy but at first it seems like like monopoly money you're
like this is what I used to make in a year you know like that like for real like a year
God, what a feeling.
Yeah.
What a fucking feeling that is.
It's crazy.
It's crazy feeling.
It's got to be, and just hearing the, you know, obviously, like love ball and everything
else and then talk about high school and then like, damn, you wanted to play in college
and everything else.
So obviously that competitive nature and that fires there.
So when you are starting to sell out and start to, like, get over the hump and everything else, like.
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You can imagine the energy that he had
When he's realizing like you know it's starting to fucking happen
Yeah
Yeah it was it was it's like it's beyond
And I kind of you know I know it because I've experienced it now
So when I see it happening for other comics
Like I'm very excited for them like I know what's happening to you right?
now, you know.
Is that a split world, the comic world?
Is there guys that are like, for the most part, are comics excited for other comics?
Or are there other, like, is it kind of 50-50?
Like, hey, we don't want to help or we do want help.
Because that's kind of how the NFL is.
Like, you know, you guys come in.
Some guys are like, hey, come on, let's show you how it goes.
Or other guys are like, fuck off.
You're not taking my job.
Yeah, it's a little bit of that.
I mean, that's that the guys that are whatever, like standout, whatever, they're just
insecure because, like, they don't realize that there's enough, there is enough room.
Like, well, you guys, there's a real, there is roster spots.
Yeah.
Right.
With what we do, there's no such thing as, like, if he's funny, you're done.
Yeah.
You're no longer funny.
Yeah.
It's not like that.
But I think some people don't realize that, like, we can all work and do shows and sell tickets.
Like, it's not really a threat to you.
And I actually feel like great.
Like, when I watch a stand-up and they're, like, legit.
shit really good. I don't go
fuck. I'm like this is, I get
excited by it. Like I find it kind of
inspiring, you know, I'm like, oh, this is all
like, really good stand-up is exciting.
And it makes me want to do
stand-up. It makes me want to go, get back on
stage. I'm like, that was so fucking good
that I want to do more stand-up, you know.
shitty stand-up makes me, like, want to go home.
Yeah. Go take a nap.
Yeah, I'm like, this sucks. I don't get out.
I get anxiety. I want to leave the room. Like, when I'm watching,
I'm like, oh, fuck. And I just, like,
I walk out of the room. But when they're good,
I want to sit there and watch it like anybody else.
You know?
Yeah.
When you're coming up and you've already found your voice,
you found your cadence,
you found your timing,
how do you go and watch other comics
that are making it and doing well,
that have similar humor to you
and not take their shit?
Because it seems like a very difficult job
to not, you know,
snipe someone's joke and change it up a little bit.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you hear something, you're like,
and that was solid, I feel like...
And the thing that comes to my mind is, like,
growing up,
Like when I was, you know, getting like turning like 12, 13, like Dane Cook was big.
And I love Dane Cook.
I thought it was awesome.
But then as you get older, more media, more podcasts come out.
People are kind of hating on Dane Cook.
I'm not asking you to do that.
But people are saying Dane Cook stole from Louis C.K.
With the rolling of the R's and all this different stuff.
Like, how do you not take that stuff?
Was that ever a struggle for you?
No.
I mean, I think there's just such a, an established thing where it's usually when you see
somebody who's like, you hear a great joke, you just go, fuck.
Like, god damn, I wish I would have thought of that.
Right.
But it's like he did it.
Like when you see it, you're just like, that's done now.
You know?
Yeah, so it never occurs to you to go like, how can I make that mine?
You kind of just go like, I need to fucking write more.
I need to come up with some shit.
But yeah, no, the, and which, like, look, the real thing is that that's why I think so
many of us, myself included, lean so hard into talking about our lives because there's no,
like, you can't.
It's uniquely yours.
Exactly.
If I talk to you about like my wife, my kids, my dad, my travels, like, you know, my experiences,
there is no chance that I'm talking about what you're talking about.
Like it's so uniquely mine.
So I think that's something that has really evolved in stand-up is like people have really a lot,
not everybody, but a lot of people just really lean into talking about their personal experiences
because there's no, you're not going to cross-contaminate anything.
But I fucking, I mean, yeah, I watch jokes where I'm like, that was so fucking good.
And my thought really is like, I wish I would have thought of that.
Fuck you, you piece of shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would almost suck.
Like, I feel like, if I get it almost suck like you're doing your own thing and you don't really
watch a whole lot.
And then one of your jokes is similar to somebody else.
Now, I have that.
People like, oh, you kind of, and then you're just thinking, I would assume that you're
just thinking like, well, fuck, I didn't know.
I'll tell you what I have said a few times.
I've seen somebody do a bit that's something similar to what I'm doing and I'm in the room.
And I always tell them in that moment, like, hey, just so you know, I have a bit very similar to what you're saying right now.
Because it's something that's not out.
If it's out, then I'm just, I'll be like, oh, they're doing something similar to something I have out.
So they're going to look like they're doing my bit.
Your fans will let them
Oh yeah
Like yeah
And the people will
I mean I've
I've had people tell me
They're like
You're that bid is similar
To so and so's
And I'll be a look
And either they're not similar
And you're like
That's not even remotely close
There's just like
We both have a bit about hats
And you're like you stole his bit
I'm like what you're talking about?
Like we're both a lot of talking about hats
You know
But I've also told people like
I've seen something similar
And then I go
I look at when they came out
and if my shit came out first,
I'm not even accusing the other person to taking it.
I'm just like, hey, just so you know, mine came out a year before.
And then that person, like, shuts down.
Yeah.
But I've told people because you want to tell somebody
so that they don't think, like, if somebody is up there
and they do their fucking hat bit,
and you're like, I'm doing a bit right now,
you want to tell them if they see you because you want them to go,
hey, I didn't come up with that after I saw you that day at the club.
I'm doing it right.
That's why I tell them in the moment, right?
But that happens, that's a normal thing to happen,
where you go, we're both talking about fucking ice or whatever, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just let you know that I am also exploring what it is to have sub-freezing water.
Yeah.
When you have a platform as big as you do,
like you and Burr with two bears, two bears one cave and just all the,
you kind of have like a network and as big as your brand is,
what is the benefit?
And if it's as simple as finances, then I guess that's what the answer would be.
But what is the benefit of being on like a Netflix or a streaming platform versus you just doing your own thing because you have such a big audience yourself?
No, it's actually a good question.
I mean, everything has changed.
I mean, one of the things that is like obvious is that you can have great success with posting a special on YouTube.
Like YouTube people were like seeing as like for a minute, like, like,
oh, things didn't work out for you.
Right.
You had to put it on YouTube.
And then you see what's happened
with specials on YouTube
that when they hit,
they fucking explode.
I mean, Shane.
Shane.
Dude, that stand-up in Austin
has got to be one of my top five.
It's one of my top five.
It is so fucking funny.
When I,
I just told,
I saw him yesterday.
And I was,
I mean,
I've told him this before
that when I first was,
you know,
I'd heard about him
and I saw a,
clip and I was like it's funny and then his special came out it first came out I was sent the you know
whatever the the link I I click on it and I realized that like 15 20 minutes have gone by and I'm like
and the reason that like I'm like surprise is like normally like I tap out fast like I'll watch stand up for
like three minutes and like turn it off you know a special and then I'm like checking again I'm like
I'm about to finish this thing it's like whatever 50 minutes or something I turn it
And I was like, that is the most engaged and hardest I've laughed at a special in a long, like in a while.
And it was a YouTube special that like he was, it's so good.
Like it's also like it is my wheelhouse of what I find funny.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like there's genres of things that people like it.
No question.
It really hit me in my, in my spot where I was like, this is so fucking funny.
And yeah, I mean, I.
I love that special.
I think it's one of the best specials
of the last five years.
Yeah.
The Alabama football,
the Fox News did.
Oh,
it's just all of it.
The dad shit is probably what made me laugh the hardest.
Like,
when he's,
when he talks about,
like,
he's drunk and he wakes up to like,
what's going on in Israel?
Like the bombing child.
Like,
that shit made me laugh.
Whoa.
So,
yeah.
Whoa.
That shit made me laugh.
It's a little fucking,
the thing that,
the thing that,
so funny to me about Shane is what's so funny
me about you and your stand-up is like
Shane can say so little
and have such a presence
and just a little movement and the timing
like when I watch Sledgehammer
you're literally having conversation with your kid
or with your dad and you're like
are just doing eight words
in the span of 30 seconds
but the way you put the words and where you put them
it's fucking hilarious. Yeah thanks man
thanks I mean it's it's the type
of thing yeah that like
I mean little things the nuance of
things is what makes me laugh the hardest.
More so than like the, you know, the big punchline is always something you want.
But like, it's the little stuff that makes me remember and love stuff.
Yeah.
You know, like the little facial expressions, the paws being in the right, like, that's what
you work on too, you know?
The callbacks that happened.
Callbacks.
Callbacks are always a fun little treat.
Yeah.
So I feel like that's a lot of your fans, like watching it too.
You just see the reaction by a lot of your fans.
Like when you do hit the callbacks throughout the entirety of the special.
And everyone's just clapping.
Because it's funny, but it's also like, man, like, well done.
Like, that would have to feel, that would have to feel so sick.
Yeah, you want to, like, you don't want them to be too, like, you know, for lack of a better, like, to eat.
You want to weave them in a clever way because then they're kind of like, oh, like, there it is.
Yeah.
As opposed to just, like, dropping it whenever.
So, like, like, making a callback feel organic.
So it's like, it's in a bit 10 minutes later.
But it is, you know, it's a callback to something.
But it feels natural in the newer bit or in the later.
bit, that's like a fun thing, I think, to...
It's like an appreciation clap that's happening.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun.
By the way, I have to mention because I did see Shane yesterday that he was like,
if you can watch, it came out today.
I was like, how was the beer Olympics?
He goes, you dodged a bullet.
He goes, it sucked.
Oh, he's lying.
He's lying.
And I was like, shut up.
And then what we got into was,
first of all yes he did show me bruise he's like this is a weak old bruise
is still yellow yeah and I was like here's what it is you hang out with these guys and you're
like this a fuck you're just good guys like the regular guys I go but when you take these
fucking assholes these these pro athletes and you just go we're competing I go this
switch happens that you forget that they're monsters like their actual literal monsters he's
like dude I had a guy grabbed me by my neck and hold me he goes I thought we were playing
I thought we were like fucking around.
Is this you?
That's me.
He's talking about me.
And then he keeps talking.
I'll show it to you.
He goes, I got beat the fuck.
And I was drunk so I didn't know what was happening to me until the next day.
And he was like, it hurts so bad.
Yeah, this is why Shane's such a bitch.
Okay, tell me.
Tell me.
Tell me.
Because that whole wrestling, that's me and Shane.
That's the fucking.
Yeah, he looks like he's suffering right there.
Yeah.
Someone made a meme out of that.
Taylor has him like that, like in the point he's dragging him.
someone put him.
Shane's tapping like three or four times
and Taylor's just dragging him throughout the pool.
You can just tell he's in an absolute
shoving. He goes, yeah, he goes, Taylor's
a professional shover.
He's shoving me.
So here's how it started. We were in my man cave
and we're kind of fucking around because I do,
I think Shane's hilarious and I love being around him,
especially when he's got a couple drinks in him
and he kind of comes out of a shell a little bit.
And he starts, you know, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do? And he starts fucking naked and on.
So we end up on the couch.
There's a photo of us.
the couch. I'm like full mounted on him.
Yeah. And I'm like holding him and he's like he's choking but like you're a bitch.
Like still aging it on. Yeah. And then shirt like Will gets in a fight with this guy of the lead
singer of Midland. Those him in the pool starts wrestling him and then J.P's like, hey, get Shane in the
pool. So I like, you know, Shane, he didn't want to take that shirt off for nobody.
We got to get him in this fucking pool. So I body toss him in there and you can see in this video's
like, you don't want this. And he kind of takes his shirt off. We start going. But he instigated
95% of that shit. He, him and Burr.
would lose in a competition and then shame would find me and will and come up behind us and be like
you're being nasty you're being a bad host man you're such a bad host well i'm like trying to shoot a
beer pong bond i'm like dude i'm gonna fucking end this he said who was it he said an nchl player james
he goes he goes this dude legit hurt me and then came back it was like my bad on that yeah
those hockey players they look like sticks they are strong and sturdy individuals they're playing
like that's after all the competition is over it's like
And they fucking fight.
Like they legit fight.
Oh, yeah.
And they can booze too.
They can put it down.
And they get and start playing pool basketball.
And I looked over for a minute.
I could have sworn three people were drowning at one point.
It was just its elbows are being thrown.
Dudes are getting thrown everywhere.
It was as fratty and as energetic as it possibly can get it.
Yeah.
You got to watch Shane talk about it.
It's out today.
It's out today.
Two bears?
No, no.
It's his.
I came out because I did it here.
Oh, you went out to a, oh, dude.
I went to Queens.
How a wild.
Oh, this is his pot.
I was out there, what was that, a month ago?
He's like, hey, you want to come do the pot?
I was like, hell yeah, dude.
And then I call him when I get there.
I'm like, hey, am I in the right spot?
And then we come in.
I'm like, yeah, why are you living like this, man?
He's like, is how you make comedy.
Yeah.
He's like he makes, he lives like a hoarder, right?
Yeah.
He lives like he's like a college student.
And then you go upstairs and all the boys
you're sitting there playing UFC like video games.
It's such a departure from my life.
Yeah, I bet.
I live like a fucking.
baller.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
But it's,
yeah, it's a choice.
Yeah, it is a choice.
He does a lot of sketch comedy.
Why didn't you,
was there ever a point when you were talking about doing communications
and making videos and like doing all that?
Did you ever want to do like mad TV or SNL?
Definitely.
I mean, I literally thought that when I was at that ground link,
the groundlings,
if you look it up,
it's like,
it's the West Coast improv school.
that so many people you know would go to.
It's like Second City, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
It's the LA version of that.
And it's, I mean, Will Farrell came from there, foul, and like, endless people.
So when I found that out, I was like, oh, that's where I'll go.
And then I'll do SNL.
Like, I literally thought that was the way to do it.
And then they have tier, like, they have, it's a school.
So, like, there's entry, like, level one, level two, like, like that.
then there's this thing called Riders Lab,
then there's Sunday Company,
and then there's the ground links, right?
So it's a whole thing.
When you get to Writing Lab, if they call you,
it means that you at least have some chops.
Like if you suck, they're not, they don't call you for that.
Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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They call you, and it's to like, you know, start working on the writing aspect of it.
If you can pass on it, you can go, like, I can't do it right now, and they'll call you a second time.
But if you pass a second time, they'd never call you again.
That's the policy.
And so the first time they called me,
I had a legit, I can't do it right now.
I don't remember what it was.
But the second time they called me, it was, I realized,
I started doing stand-up.
And I remember I'd, I mean, you know,
I got 50 bucks to do it here, $100 to do it there.
And I was like, I think this is the path I need.
Like, I felt like if I go do that,
it's going to be a distraction from stand-up.
like it's it's it's I'm spread out in a way that I I can't register so I said no but I still liked
doing sketched up like I you know I've filmed sketches over the years and posted them and
I've acted in a few things I have like a couple things that are like legit like I have a thing
with Bert that we're going to do um I have a another movie and development at a at a at a place and
And then I filmed my own version of, like, I filmed the pilot last year that I paid for.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
And I sold it.
So, like, we're going to go make the series.
That's fucking awesome.
Yeah.
So it's, and that's like, I wrote it.
I'm in it.
I produced it.
Spent fucking so much money to make it look.
I just didn't want it to look like a sketch show.
Because a lot of them look so low production.
So we don't, like, we actually call them shorts.
Like, you know, like, if you ever watch Black Mirror,
like, an episode of that will have like, you know,
it's like a short film.
And that's how we tried to make this series, like short films.
Any idea when that's going to come out?
Well, it'd be cool if the strike was resolved.
That is true.
You probably get, I mean, I want them to get what they need,
obviously, and what they want.
But my guess would be that it would be late next year
when we would be able to put that out.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You, uh, I know when we had Bert on and we're kind of like asking about your guys' dynamic
and everything else and he alludes to you being like the brains behind the operation.
Like over the years, obviously, you know, humble cat.
But, um, how do you learn to, how have you learned how to build all of these things out over time?
Like, do you have a, like a knack or an interest, like when you're building out?
Like, you have a media network.
You have all these things.
going on like balancing all that and learning about all that because it does seem like you are
a very savvy behind the microphone bar or you know behind the camera and everything else no i think it's
like um you know i i'm an i'm an observer and i i try to like learn from what other people are doing
too so i do a lot of that like i do a lot of like seeing what works for other people and then following
instincts and like you know not being um not being resistant to like the new
whatever is something that something is like coming about like you know hey uh whatever it could be like
TikTok is where everyone's going and not being like I'm not going to do that you know that's not
from like just being open to the fact that that you can't you can't just go I do it this way
this is what we do like being open to those ideas and and trying things like I'm I'm I think if
you're a comic you're natural entrepreneur like you man it you own your business and that means that
you're not totally risk-averse,
like you're going to take risks.
And so, like, we take risks in things.
Like, when we do these live streaming shows,
like, to produce them, you have to spend money.
You have to, like, go ahead and put together a different type of show.
Like, it's like almost like a variety show.
Like, we're going to have music.
We're going to have this.
It's a risk.
And then you go, I'm going to, I'm going to do $10.
Like, it was a big thing was, like, people were, like,
trying to like really have us agents.
So like you should charge more, you know?
I was like, no, let's just try to do volume.
Like, let's just try to do volume and see if we can do a lot of tickets, but make it affordable.
10 bucks is like pretty affordable ticket.
And so I, I'm open to like try things and I go, if this doesn't, like, when I shot the pilot,
I spent over a million dollars to shoot it.
So you go like, and then people are like, what if you lose money?
I'm like, then it didn't work out.
But like, the up.
side is maybe it's exactly what I wanted to make. And even if I don't make money on it, I have this
thing I wanted to make. And so I can't, you don't make, I don't make just decisions based on is this
going to be financially beneficial? Obviously, you want to make money, but like you have to do things that are like
fulfilling creatively. And to me, there's like something about in this era that we're in right now,
I like the adventure of trying something and seeing how it like how it, like how it ends up. Even if that's like
trying it like we developed new podcasts and I'm like you don't know how these are going to like podcasts
you know what I mean you guys do it it's like you go let's get together do this pot do fucking 500
people might listen to it and it's considered a bomb and there is no such thing as like if you do put
the like there's been celebrities that have gotten together to do podcasts that fail like legit
huge names so I get excited about trying new things it's just like when you get on stage you try
things, that's what feels good to like try a joke and have the potential for it to bomb.
Like if there's no potential for it to bomb, it's not as as rewarding internally as, you know
I mean?
Like a safe joke.
Right.
Like where you're like, this will get a laugh.
Just a little softball pitch.
Yeah, those are like, it feels good to get the laugh.
But part of you goes like, if you would have tried something else that was like riskier,
that feels more fun.
And I think that applies to like all the stuff you're saying.
Like all those things is like you want to take a risk.
You want it to be a calculated risk.
But there's no, there's no thrill in just like playing everything safe.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Was there ever a fear when you were when you had kids about taking more risk?
There was a fear in not working enough.
So.
Which is a different thing that most people say, right?
Yeah.
A lot of people are like, I got to make sure I spend more time with my kids.
When she was pregnant.
and I was like, we're having a baby.
I definitely hit a switch
where I just went like into,
I need to work a lot.
And I went, I went hard.
And it was.
Out of the idea of like providing.
Yeah, because I was like,
I mean, up until that point,
it was the two of us.
Like, you realize that like,
if it's just the two of you,
you can fucking get by.
We'll go to Trader Joe's
and get some frozen fucking burritos.
You know what I mean?
Like, you eat,
you have dinner,
you don't have dinner.
It really doesn't matter.
It's like if I,
If you don't, if you're not making a lot, you're like, well, you know, hopefully I'll get another gig next week and I'll have enough for rent and shit like that.
Yeah.
You're like, I mean, I always wanted to work.
But like when when a kid comes, yeah, I was like, it wasn't even, I didn't even have to like externally say it.
It was like it was so internal of like, it's like you, it's like the modern version of like hunter gatherer mode where you're just like they have to provide.
So that I mean I went into like
Sixth gear with like
Working yeah
Yeah
Seems like you have an incredible work ethic
When you look at you in Bert
Yeah
Who would you say who has the better work ethic
Well
Bert would be like I mean I'm doing a lot more actually right now
I'm doing the festival
It's fucking crazy
No I think we both
You know I think we both have dad
Or I had a dad who like we were like very
traditional work, you know, get up at 5.30, whatever, go to work.
Like, they're just like old school Americana dads.
They're like, yeah, of course you work.
Right.
So then like when opportunities come up, like they have arrived for us now.
We're like, we have opportunities.
Like, I mean, neither one of us is like, yeah, whatever.
Yeah.
You know, like, oh, yeah, you go to work.
Yeah.
So we both work a lot.
I mean, I've, like, I did a tour.
that I think was insane.
When I look back on like it was too much,
meaning, not like I couldn't handle it.
It's just like for having a family,
it's just like it's not conducive to do that many shows
and tour that much.
So I'm more conscious of it.
And like I'm literally going to see my agent here
to plan out the next,
like we have to have more weeks off.
You know?
But it's not because, like, I don't want to work.
It's like, I have to be able to be home.
Like, I have little kids, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, Bert is going, in my opinion, too hard.
Like, he went.
He goes insane.
I think it's insane.
Yeah.
I think it's almost like avoiding life.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm like, what are you doing?
And then he, because like, Bert does this thing where he knows him when I say this.
He'll be like, yeah, I just, I don't know, I just.
I just took it on too much.
I'm like, yeah, but you're in control.
Like, you can say it.
He's like, I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
Think he has a hard time saying no?
Definitely.
Yeah, definitely.
He does give himself to a lot of different, as much as he can.
I mean, even coming to beer Olympics, when I hit him up the next day and was like, hey, man, you know, I know, I know you get pulled in a lot of different angles and you're just blowing up.
He has been for a while now.
And it's like, oh, I appreciate you just like taking the time.
And because you could even see it at the beer Olympics.
I don't know about you, but you can see a little bit of a, you can just.
like he was worn down a little bit.
And then he expressed that when he sent the message back.
He's like, hey, you know, I was running a little low,
but very appreciative.
You know Byrd, like he's the best.
No, he's the best.
It does seem like he just goes fucking million pounds an hour to.
I mean, if he's trying, look, if he wants to hear this,
okay, you're working harder.
I got it enough.
He did ask me to ask that question.
I mean, yeah, but I, you know, we did a Zoom call for this thing the other day.
And we get on, he's like,
I'm like, are you all right?
He's like, I'm dying.
I was like, yeah, I don't want that to be real.
Like, could you chill the fuck out for a second?
But yeah, he goes, you know, he'll do this.
I think he's going to take a little bit of time.
Then he's got his fully loaded cruise.
Then he goes back on tour.
Then into another production.
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, man.
I get it because you go, these are incredible opportunity.
You work your whole career for these opportunities.
Then you get them.
But you still have to.
Like, look, I'm saying it like I'm telling him.
I'm telling myself, too.
You still have to, like, figure out how to manage it.
Yeah.
Because you, you know, I guess you don't want to be like, no thanks, right?
To the thing that you're like, you always wanted to do.
But you can't say yes to all of it.
That's the, that's the part you have to figure.
You can't say yes to all of it.
Oh, what time?
Oh, fuck them.
Give us, give us three pet peeve.
of Burt Kreischer.
Three of his pet peeves?
Three pet peeves you have with him.
Oh, that I have with him?
No, like that you see of him.
Three pet peeves you have for Bert.
Like, what bugs you about Bert?
Three things.
Pretty easy.
Number one would be as busy as he is,
just not responding to...
I'm like, hey man, we're good friends.
We're literal business partners.
And I've called you and texted you for four days.
Oh, my bad.
I'm like, yeah, no.
Yeah.
Like, I've been around you when other people and I see how you,
I'm like, don't fucking answer me.
My bad.
So that would, that fucking irritates the shit out of me.
Yeah, I'm like, whatever, dude.
I know how you do this.
Like, pick up the fucking phone.
Text me back that you can't talk.
Simple enough.
So that makes me crazy.
What else makes me crazy about him?
He will, oh yeah, he just won't like consider anybody else's emotions in the room.
So like he'll come in and I'll be like,
And he's like yelling at, you know, somebody on the staff.
And I'm like, buddy, buddy.
And he's like, what?
I go, yeah, but he feels this way.
But I'll give him credit.
When you point that stuff out to him, he'll be like, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Nadav.
I'm sorry, I didn't think about how you might have felt in it.
It's literally like you're raising kids.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like your dad and you're just like, yeah, but your brother feels this way.
Yeah.
And then he's like, okay, good point, point.
sometimes I get a little ahead of it.
See, I do give him credit.
He gets very, he gets like, he gets so fucking, like, fired up in the moments of, like, fun.
Because he, his whole thing is, like, how can I make something more?
Like, he wants every moment to be.
Like, if he came in here, he's like, let's make this the best podcast in the history of podcast.
Like, yeah.
Right?
Like, he wants to manufacture fun, even if it's like, you know, like, it can't, he doesn't want to have, like, an okay day.
every time you go like how was last night's thing
it was the best night in my life and I go
I know it wasn't and he's like what I go
well if it was the best night like you've said
it's been the best night your life 500 times
so which one is it like most people have an epic experience
you I go you had dinner you told me it was the best dinner you've ever had in your life
you had the best coffee you ever had in your life this morning
the show was the best night he goes okay alright
sometimes I embellish I'm like yeah quite a bit
so dude your bird voice is so funny it's like he but you know
mean like he really and actually a lot of that is tied to the to like booze and like he's know
he's the party guy because like the party guy wants the party to go on right like one time we hung
out i mean i'm not a big drinker and we had a couple drinks and i was like and it was it was like
midnight we're at this hotel i was like all right like i'm going to go to bed he goes what
i go i want to go to bed he goes why i go because it's fucking midnight
And I've had a few drinks and I'm tired.
He's like,
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Don't you want this feeling to keep going?
What?
What feeling?
He's like, just like that...
That buzz?
Like, don't you want it to just not stop?
I was like, no.
I wanted to put my head on a fucking pillow and sleep.
Like, are you crazy?
And he was like, I just want this to never end.
I was like, that's not a healthy thought.
Like, this shit will never end.
But then he actually, he's not lying about that.
Like, that is, you know what I mean?
And so, like, it has two sides because the upside is that he makes most things more fun.
He just, you know, he comes in and you're like, oh, shit, like a party just came into the room.
Like, he's a literal party.
Now, by the way, he's in the last year, since he's, like, really, like, I don't know, exploded in popularity or whatever.
Every time I see him, there's like eight people with him.
I'm like, who the fuck are all these people?
He's an entourage now.
Like, he's like, this is my camera guy.
This is my sound guy.
I'm like, what?
He never just rolls in solo anymore.
That's wild.
It's a party. It's a party where he goes. Yeah. And then they keep the party going. Seems exhausting. But also be on the receiving end of it. Every time Bert walks into a room, you're like, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. I'm so happy he's here because he's such a good time. And the thing about Bert is when you see him and you talk to him, a minute, two minutes. You literally walk away going, I feel like we're best friends. He made me feel like, man, we're going to be friends for life. I'm like, I think we passed Tom as this.
Yeah, yeah.
Best friend.
No, he does.
Well, he's very, here's a thing.
He's very sincere.
He's very sincere.
And he doesn't do like, he doesn't do like, yeah, like, good to see you, man.
Like, he's not like that.
He's like a look into your eyes and like, this means so much to me.
He likes community.
You know, he is a frat guy.
Frat guy has like a negative connotation.
The positive of it is like if you wanted to find the positive in that is somebody who like wants, like, a friendship,
fraternity to exist.
So like he goes,
let's all, why don't we all just be friends
and like hang out?
And like, let's make this fun.
And I'm just like, what?
I'm like, I want to go be alone.
Yeah.
And he's like, no, come on.
Like he's always like, come join us.
And like, you know, like that's.
As an observer, it's, you guys have a very interesting dynamic.
You guys are both hilarious individuals in your own way.
But it's interesting to see how, I mean,
I'm assuming you guys are best friends.
Would you call him your best friend?
Yeah.
We're, yes.
We're best friends.
And he's like, you know, it is a,
is a balance.
Part of the reason I think that it works for us is that I thoroughly enjoy him.
Like a lot of people are like, how do you put up with this fucking lunatic?
And I'm like, yeah, but I enjoy, like, he entertains the shit out of me.
I find him.
One of the first times we ever took a road trip together is like years ago.
And we drove up to Sacramento and we're driving back down from L.A.
I mean, it's like hours drive.
I forget how many hours it is.
And then on the way back from Sacramento, he goes, you know, you don't say much.
And I was like, you haven't shut the fuck up.
You haven't stopped talking.
And he goes, yeah, that checks out.
Yeah, that checks out.
But the thing is, I was like, yeah, but I'm, I go, I just literally, I would ask him a question.
He would talk for 30 minutes straight.
And then I ask him one more question.
An hour has gone by with him just talking.
He's just talked, talked, talk, talk.
But I enjoy him.
Like, I enjoy his company.
And then he thinks that I'm fucking weird.
and I'm like, I don't think I'm weird.
I think I'm pretty much like the voice of reason
and you're fucking crazy.
Yeah.
But I enjoy your craziness.
I know we got to let you go because people are,
he's getting text, people are open the door.
All right.
But sledgehammer.
Sledgehammer.
Of all the specials you've done,
what makes you so proud of this special?
I mean, look, I don't know if this is something that will always happen.
Like, for me, it's like so clearly for me,
the like what I'm most proud of
I toured for usually I was on a two year turnaround
right and I felt I was felt fine about that
like meaning like I would shoot a special
start working on something new two years would go by
and I'd shoot another one and put it out
and pandemic contributed to this but it was three years
and I just felt like it got
it's so much better it's so much tighter
I became a better performer
like I just I like the special
so much more.
And, you know, I just felt like it's a more, like, you always want to get better.
You know, so you just like, it feels like whatever, you know, evolved.
Like, I've evolved as a person, as a comic.
It's like, it's more personal to me because, like, my dad died during it and we were very close.
And I talk about it, even though I make jokes about it, obviously.
But so, like, it's stuff that is like, you know, it's more emotional for me as much as it's not,
like, an emotional thing to watch.
it's like all that to me was like and it's a huge tour like the culmination of a of a 21 month tour
is this special so to me it's like as you know it's the most fun i've ever had shooting a special
like by far and i don't know man i'm just like it's been out for a couple days it's number one
on netflix it's the number one yeah it's got it's got to be that's pretty cool it's got a big feeling
so we see your instagram no no but i mean like there's like an article today
of like how it dethroned
that Henry Cavill show,
The Witch or whatever.
The Witcher?
You know, I did see that.
You know where I saw that?
On my Instagram?
On your Instagram?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they said it.
And I mean, they said to me.
It's impressive as fuck.
I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah.
100%.
Of course.
Throw that shit up there multiple times.
And then the guy was so sassy.
Post it twice in one day.
The guy was so sassy who wrote it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like, apparently, this guy has five specials on it.
He wrote apparently.
Like, it's not.
You can't find that.
Like, I don't even know how to, but verify this.
But apparently, this guy has five specials on Netflix.
And apparently, people are watching it.
And I'm like, all right, man.
That shit, to me is fun.
But it's honestly, it's not even about, it's not about that.
It's about that, like, I feel like when you do a special, it's like when you're, you've
been in a kitchen.
You know what I mean?
Like, you've been making something and you go.
Yeah.
And you are.
You are excited.
I don't believe anybody that isn't excited for people to like try it.
Yeah.
And yes, some people go, this tastes like shit.
But a lot of people enjoy it.
And then you go, well, that feels good.
Yeah.
Man, thank you.
This has been an honor, bro.
No, I'm super.
I'm sorry I couldn't make it to what would have been a horrific experience at the, uh,
you're coming next year.
You're coming next year.
You'd be a ref.
You can be a ref next year.
You don't know.
Actually, I might be fucking jacked.
Fuck you guys up.
Dude, we didn't get to talk about it, but you look really good.
You've lost a lot of way.
We're going to get killed.
I know, I know.
Hey, he's got the, what's it called?
The short head.
He's got a short head bicep.
Shortheads, shortheads play.
If we play ball.
You need the shortheads.
Long heads take longer to develop.
That'll look as good.
That's what I'm talking.
You got a good peak.
Got a good physique.
You guys, come on, man.
You field up nicely since your basketball incident.
Thanks, brother.
Thanks.
I'll see you in the pool next year.
No question.
You will be more injured.
Hey, have a great day.
Big hugs, tiny kisses.
Thanks.
Thanks so much.
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