Bussin' With The Boys - Big Cat

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Recorded: April 8, 2020 Big Cat is on the bus (not really, thanks to coronavirus, but it's as close as we can get for now)!! On this episode, Dan Katz, one of the OGs of Barstool and host of Pardon My Take, joins The Boys for a highly-anticipated chat. Topics include patching up the BWTB vs PMT beef (once and for all), Big Cat tries to convince The Boys they should give JJ Watt another chance, Taylor asks why he was never allowed into the legendary Barstool Blackout parties, how coronavirus may push off the NFL season, and some quick takes on new NFL uniforms, the NFL Draft going digital, and more. There is even a candid call-in by Kirk Herbstreit (and Big Cat had some strong words for him). This one lived up to the hype. Enjoy! Want to be featured in an episode? Share your questions, feedback, and whatever else using #ForTheBoys / #DontGiva and TAG US @bussinwtb on all platforms. Have a song submission for Pickin' With The Boys? Send an acoustic original to [e-mail] and we might throw it on our platform. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_SpotifyFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're already, we already, that's what we do. Like, I don't know how you and PFT do it, but like literally we get on, we start recording and then about three minutes in and we feel like we should tell our guests like, hey, by the way, now you've been recorded for three minutes. Okay. That's probably the fence. Love that. Do I need to record anything on my end? Well, I don't think so. What do you, what do you mean?

Like, give me, give an example. Like, usually I record my Zoom as a backup when we record PMT. I don't know if your producers doing that. We're all in on whatever. We're on right now. We're on Zimm. We're all in. Zach, if you want to give me...

It's the second one. Yeah. Zach or Alex, if you want to give me permission to record my own stream, I'll do it. So that way you can have a backup. I don't care if you don't want to do it, whatever. Hey, Zach, somebody chime in and let them know. You guys know more about that than us. Yeah, you have permission.

Yeah, you have permission. I don't have permission. It says, please request record permission from the meeting host. He doesn't mean... No, I wasn't like saying, like, I didn't think so. Oh, hey, Zach. will you let me like,

you give me verbal permission? I'm talking about the technical permission to record. I know I can do whatever the fuck I want, Zach. No, you can't. We can't. We're on your podcast. If we were on your podcast,

we would have to ask verbal permission. But we are on the bus with the boys. That was great. Like, like I'm, I'm like some super nervous, like, A-list celebrities.

Like, I'm going to have my people recorded as well. Just in case you guys try to take me out of context here. No question. No, I need actual permission. Zach. No,

anytime somebody brings up like, hey, should we do like a certain intro to bust some with the boys or like add reads in the middle, I think we get a little too queasy like being structured. So like,

oh, we'll just figure it out afterwards. I love it. I love it. So I'm happy to be here with you guys. I'm not tanning. You asked that question. Yeah,

I did. I have a, I do have a regiment that I go, um, you know, you guys are different setups. Will, you're in Nashville right now?

Yeah. Yeah, and Taylor, you're out in California. I'm in New York City. It sucks. I'm, you know, my apartment is fine, but it's small. And living with a baby, too. So we take a lot of walks. And I have a weighted vest that I put on every day. And I just walk around my neighborhood looking like I'm like a ex-Navy seal, even though, obviously, I'm too much of a pussy to be in the military. But yeah, that's pretty, that's pretty much all I do every day. It's my weighted vest. And I walk around and try to get some steps in my FitFit. I think, I think being a, military is definitely something people would say, yeah, I'd love to do it, but never would actually have the balls to actually do it. It's one of those things where we think we're cool enough. We think we'd be badass enough. But at the end of the day, we're just not. All right.

There's also probably a spike in that right now because everyone's playing call of duty. And they're like, holy shit, this is, this is for me. Like, I could definitely be special ops. And then they forget that they've also just haven't left their apartment for three weeks straight. And it's just been eating pizza and, like, ice cream every day. So, but that's kind of where we're at. I think they get that in the show, in their game, they get shot 15 to 16 times. Like, you've died seven times that day. So like, you're like, I can do this. Like, no, because you, the first time you died, it's over.

That's the game. And then the comeback is like, no, no, they're spawn killing me right now. If we were fucking spawn killing. Yeah, they figured out where I'm responding. It's bullshit. Yeah. Yeah, what's it like in New York? What's it like out there?

Like, what is boots on the ground? What is it fucking like? It's empty, man. it's weird. I mean, it's not empty, empty. Like, I actually went to the office last night because we recorded a bunch of interviews. Um, like no traffic anywhere, uh, walking on the street. You'll see a few people. Everyone's wearing masks now. Like the progression of masks has gone from like two weeks ago, only like a couple people. Now 90% of people you see are wearing masks. And it's just not a lot of people. And it's, it's weird. Like if you, if you came to New York right now, it would probably look like, uh,

a regular midsize. city, but being in New York and seeing how empty it is comparatively is eerie. Because usually New York is like you can't get away from people. And now, you know, I'll go out for a walk with, with, my son and my dog at like eight in the morning and I won't see like more than like 10 people. Dude, I can't, I mean, I think of New York right down how everything's in quarantine. I literally think of I am legend. How every day like you're probably going out to the dog and streaming out every day at noon trying to tell people, hey, I'm here. If you can hear me, I'm here. I think we'll do do a thing like that on Instagram. It's a wild setup. I can't, I can't imagine. California is

not far behind, but it's not as congested as New York, but everyone for the last week or two has started to wear masks. Like I was at the gas station, just me getting gas, I literally, three homeless people can't say, I'm not even joking. Some guy, I was wearing gloves. I wasn't wearing a mask. I'm probably going to get coronavirus because of it, but he came up to me and started like yelling at me because at Arizona license plates how like am I trying to get away from Corona and then I for some reason decided to explain to this homeless man that the coronavirus is worse in California than it is in Arizona he wasn't he just started yelling at me and he should now go to Scottsdale and there's probably he can go stay at the Hyatt it was a long it was it was a long

journal thing basically I got my corner and I drove away it's fast like but I got gas so mission accomplished but you guys have I would assume backyards right yeah a little one yes so that's that changes everything. Like, I don't have a backyard. I don't, you know, it's just that space. You don't realize, like, my apartment is, is big, or not big, but it's like, it's big for New York, right? Like a thousand square feet, whatever it may be. But once you live in a thousand square feet with no outdoor space, you're like, holy shit, this is not as big as I thought it was. I could not live in New York. Yeah. I could not live in New York at all. So, yeah, we're going crazy, but, uh, you know, it's weird too. I mean, you guys must be like, you know, you, you, you know, you,

you come on to Barstool, the season ends, like hit the ground running with content, and now this. It's like the worst timing for a new podcast, I mean, a relatively new podcast. That sucks. Yeah, the thing for me is like Will and I, in the last week, have really just sat down. We talked on the phone more than we probably would in a week. And we've just been brainstorming about ideas. We started a new thing called Picking with the Boys that we had an idea about.

But because of this thing, it kind of was like, well, let's just get it started and start doing it now. Like we might as well start pushing content on as much as possible. And we have things backloaded with, which some people agree with some people disagree with. But for us, it's kind of like, I mean, this is our chance to kind of like get our brainstorming ideas and put them into motion. Yeah. And so, and it's definitely different because I'm, I'm in California. He's in, he's in Nashville, but I'll be in Nashville in a couple weeks. Nice. It's kind of like that military, that military mantra adapt or die. It's like, I'm sitting back and I'm watching, I'm like, okay, we have one podcast we drop a week.

We're sitting nice. We were supposed to go to L.A. Barstow was going to send us to L.A. and do bus with the boys out in L.A. We had to cancel that. So you're kind of sending back, like, hey, we're going to have to do podcasts because we can't have anybody come on the bus now. And we only have, I think after this,

we only have like two actual being on the bus podcasts left. So we had to kind of think, okay, when the quarantine ends and everybody goes back to normal life and people could actually come on the bus. We'll need some kind of buffer. So that way we don't have any drag or have to, skip any weeks. So we're like saving those couple we have left. And now we're going to go, now we're adapting to Zoom, which you're a first guest, by the way. And there we go.

You could just kind of sit back and think like, okay, let's watch and see how Barstool does all their stuff now because everybody's going to have to adapt on the internet somehow. And they kind of, you know, you guys kind of create and run the internet. So I've just been sitting back in anything that comes up, Taylor and I get on the phone. I'm like, hey, what in the hell can we do other than just like one podcast that we're going to just annoy everybody out, annoy everybody about all week long, around one episode that people aren't watching or listening to podcasts near as much now. It's kind of, you've kind of got to adapt and go.

It is weird, but it's been kind of fun too. It's definitely weird. The weirdest part for me is like the adapting thing isn't even happening because we're just going back in time. Like I've had this conversation with like KFC and Dave and KMarco and Fidelberg and like all the guys have been around forever. It's like we're doing exactly what we did five years ago. And by that I mean waking up in your apartment, sitting down, sitting at your computer for

like 12 hours and just like making content on your own like not talking to anyone like g-chatting with a few people but that's what we did for years so we're back to square one I feel like we're just going back in time to the original bar stool and it's kind of fun like I hope it doesn't last very long because I want sports to come back but there's been parts of it that's been like this is kind of fun to go back in time there's a lot of people right now saying that season is not happening the NFL season will not happen who curb street car car curb street came out her curb street Okay, whoa, all right. Yeah, yeah, that's heavy.

We're not saying that. Well, okay, that's fine. I said it. I've gone up and down. No, no, that the season's not happening. No, listen, fuck Kirk. I actually like Kirk Herb Street as an announcer, but fuck him for saying that because that was such a ridiculous thing to say when he said it.

And he was doing it for headlines and he got everyone in a panic. So Kirk Herb Street, I got no beef with you other than that particular comment, which was fucked up. I'll tell you what, I DMed him. That's how upset I was. I DMed him. And I said, hey, where'd you get this information? Who are you talking to? Is there somebody you, do you know scientists?

Are there people you know? And he literally just sent me his phone number and said, if you want to talk, call me. I haven't had the balls to call him yet. That's what he said. Call him right now. Yeah, call him right now. Like, Kirk, what do you, you got to tell him that we're recording. I think that's, uh, Steve, what's the deal we got.

I got into it with, I can't remember what I got into it with him a couple, a couple months ago. And then he followed me. I can't remember. I think I yelled at him because he was, I thought he was being mean to Wisconsin during a game or something. Like true meatball shit. Do you guys hear it, Rayne? Yeah.

What's up, Rick, what's up? It's Taylor LeWan. Tell him before he talks any farther. Before you talk any farther, I'm on a Zoom podcast right now. We can delete it if you want. I'm with Big Cat from Barstool and Will Compton. Awesome. What do you guys talk to?

So we're literally just talking. Big Cat had some strong words for you about the comments he made about, I have a strong word to myself too. Oh, he said he had strong words to himself too. We were talking about how you said you'd be surprised if the college football and NFL happen. Do you still believe that? Put it close to a microphone, Taylor.

About quarantining and everything. And when I did that interview, I was doing it from friends. I've been friends with for like 30 years. And I was almost just thinking out loud. The way it was reported, it was like I declared there will not be football on top of a mountain,

which was the last thing I would ever do. I mean, like, be talking to you right now. Just thinking out loud how serious this virus is and how we got to really look at the possibility and maybe not having football on the floor. I said, I'd be surprised if they can grow up in it without a quarantine. You know, if you look at it now, I think starting on time,

after talking to a lot of decision makers, I think starting on time is still something. we all hold on to hope for. We all hope that that's a possibility. But I think what I've learned is they're building four or five different contingency plans on depending on when they free the country up, you know, when everybody's safe. We'll start on time. That's option A.

Do we need to push it back a month? You know, starting in October or November, they've talked about starting in December or January. And the latest is even talking about starting, even talking college in the NFL, possibility of starting it in late February, March, which would put us playing college football, basically like a spring sport, playing March and April and May, and playing bowl games in June,

which is just bizarre. But that's what the decision makers are realistic. They're trying anything and everything they can do to salvage, if it comes to that, try to salvage a football season. you know man i'm the i'm the i'm the last guy that wants football season in can school man yeah i think well i think you're the second or last guy big cat is he's having a very hard can you hear me can you hear me i have my headphones in all you let you have all right well i just

tell kirk that after after hearing what he just said i will retract i did just say fuck kirk curb street for that statement i will retract it now okay so big cat big cat did say on this podcast that we're still recording that he said fuck Kirk Herb Street because of the comments you made, not because of the person you are. And he is now retracting that statement. Are you still with me? My service is terrible.

No, I'm here. Okay. And so I want you to know, Kurt. Tell my second that. Yes. You said what? Tell my second that. Okay.

All right. Retracting. It's retracted. I'm not so, Kurt. But his initial comment, but I felt the same way. Yeah. No, I'll be honest with you. I, well, you know I DM'd you on Twitter.

That's how we got this conversation. And because I was worried because I love football as much as the next guy. Yeah. And to me, is it like we go August and then once January hits, it's like, okay, guess no football. But you're saying that there's a, there's a chance here that we go. There's a really strong possibility that if it comes to that, we're talking like last ditch effort, they're trying everything they can to salvage a season. If it comes to it, basically having basically kind of like what we just had with the XFL,

like a screen football, but it'd be. college football in months like March and April and May and June. Think about this. Think about going back to your days at Ann Arbor. Then you've got what, four or five weeks to recover and now you've got to start.

Because they're going to hope to get back to business in 21. Now you've got to get ready to get going for the next season. You're an underclassman. So does that the NFL play that way? And I know Biggie, I know you get a question. We'll do one more and then we'll let me let you go because this is becoming a weird to pour way.

kind of a weird triangle podcast now that is making this all a little uncomfortable. I picture the beginning of this podcast is just, you know, the Barack Obama, the picture what's at hope? It's going to be your face on top of that, just with the image of football behind you. But here's how I see. So you're saying these kids are going to go do college football in March, April, May. No, no, I'm saying if it comes to that, no, no, no, I'm going to put words in your mouth. Hopefully they're still going to be on time.

but if they're willing to go as far as pushing this thing back to the spring just to try to salvage problem with football season. I mean, that would be like last ditch effort type of stuff. And hopefully it'll be able to start on time. And if maybe it's pushed back a month, I'm not declaring again anything. I'm just telling you what I'm being told that they're willing to try to do anything and everything to try to make the 20 football season happen. And if it comes to pushing it back to the spring, then the, then they're going to look into that and see if they can make that a possibility. But like I said, hopefully, hopefully we'll have you guys in July.

We start seeing the ball in August and September. That's the hope. We're all still holding out hope for that. Yeah, no doubt. Well, I think it'll happen. Big end of you have a question. The last question. You ask Kirk why he doesn't like the Badgers and why he carried the water for the rest during the Rose Bowl

when they did a horrible job and screwed over Wisconsin. Okay, so this is not, okay, this is not biased at all, but Kirk wants to, sorry, Big Cat wants to know why you hate the badgers, right? Yes. And why, and why you carry the waters for the refs during the Rose Bowl? Right. Two things. It's going to kill him to know this.

Barry Alvarez, I call him Alka, closest friend in the coaching business. The last team that I hate by the Wisconsin Badgers. I get accused of being a Wisconsin badger, Homer. I love the badgers. I love everything he represent, constant overachievers. How do you not like Wisconsin or Iowa teams like that? Yeah. Hey, we're Nebraska.

We're Nebraska. Tell him Nebraska. He's guilty of hearing what he wants to hear, like most fans. But if you listen with objective ears, you would know that I love the badgers. Just like Michigan. Yep. Fair. Just like Michigan.

I say. Yeah, I respect Michigan. You know, I don't know, Kirk, because you went to Ohio State. It's tough. And I remember walking in, I remember walking into Braybill's office, and you two looked like you were sipping tea with each other, just laughing when he got the head coaching job.

And you guys were on your O-H-I-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-high horses staring at me, staring down at me. Because it's been, it's been not a good rival. I wouldn't even say it's been a rivalry lately. Michigan's down, and I know, I know a president would say it's some thing. It'll come back. But tell him, I didn't. I didn't

do anything. I don't even remember what he's talking about with aggressive. But no, man, he's way off base. Yeah, he's in New York so you don't know

what he's going to do. Anti-badger. He's going to go out right, man. I'm going to call Barry as soon as we hang up and tell him that he said there. Hey, well, hey, let me tell you,

I appreciate you pick up the phone and I had a request coming up in the future, maybe do a Zoom podcast with the boys, bust with the boys, maybe do a collab with a part of my trick as well. I love to. All right, man.

All right, we will. Thank you. All right. See you guys. Before we go on to the next segment, you guys know the drill. The boys got some no free shoutouts, ads to read, make a few pennies. I'm telling, I'm about to do these ads. It is Easter Sunday.

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this is us just being way too nice to each other, but I said that I was displacing my anger at him during the Rose Bowl, and I still think they're the best booth because they are. They're the best booth in college football. I don't think that's up for discussion. So it's good that Kirk Herb Street, I was able to retract it. He seems like he doesn't,

he thinks they're doing everything they can to get a football season. And we just made some podcast memories right there. It was beautiful. Speaking of memories, we should open it all. Taylor's got some beef. Hang on. Taylor's got some beef with Kirk. I was just going to bring it up.

I used to. Kirk tweeted after we played the Raiders one game that I was a fake tough guy. Basically, basically just called me a piece of shit. Basically said I was a fake tough guy, piece of shit. And we worked it out. And I feel like this is a perfect opportunity for May 7, 2014. You tweeted that I was going to be a bust. So now we have a huge opportunity.

Hey, Big Cat said that? Right. Yeah, he did tweet that. Oh, shit. To be fair to be fair to bake you. I think he was going on a rampage. I think he called everybody a bust in that draft. Except the Bears pick.

Yes, which was Kevin White. So, and I think, I mean, my draft is pretty, it was pretty awful. I think it was Janadian Clowny, Zach Martin, O'Dell Beckham Jr. Xavier Rhodes is in that thing. Ryan Chazir, it was a pretty shitty draft to say the least. Oh, we get your point. Wait, so, wait, so hold on. I want to go back to, wait, well, who is, wait, was that Kevin White, though?

That might not have been. It might have been Fuller, Kyle Fuller. Kyle Fuller, yeah, yeah, who is not a bus. The next year was Kevin White. Do you think, I feel like people call you a fake tough guy, like, I've heard that a few times. What the hell's that from? Like, where's the Genesis from? I think people are just really starting to figure me out, you know?

At the end of the day, I talk a lot of game, and then I don't really back it up too much. You know, I get in it with cornerbacks. I don't really get it with D. Lyman. I kind of like, I take the easy way out. Yeah. I take the easy way. I think I've just really enjoyed getting barstool to make me go viral. And so I think from the beginning when it was, who's your boy?

Josh Norman shot the arrow at him. He's not going to beat me up in a fight. That's a win-win right there. All right. Head him with the arrow and move on. Jaylon Ramsey, now a personal friend of the bus and us. And got in his face. he felt like a ton of bricks.

You know? That's smart. I think it's figured out. Yes. It is, it's playing smarter, not harder. Right.

So when people say you're a fake tough guy, like you're like, yeah, so. Yeah, pretty much. Like, I still block you,

right? Yeah. I mean, I say, well, I block you, so whatever. It is,

it is what it is. I think, I think he gets it because he start, he starts, hang on, hang on, hang on, that's somebody who plays against you.

He's somebody who likes to chirp when they're already winning in a head. Which you got to respect. You can expect that. Like it's tough. Like when you're losing and somebody's chirping you, there's not a whole lot you can do. So you reactively just think, oh, what's the easiest thing to call him? And it's fake tough guy.

Or frontrunner. Okay. Okay. I did talk shit to JJ Watt when we were down about 21 points in Houston. I was like, fuck you, JJ. You try hard white guy. Piece of shit, like started going off on him. And he looked at me and he goes, scoreboard pussy.

And like kept jogging off like between plays. And I, like, I, for some reason, never been more mad at football in my entire life. That was the maddest I've ever gotten. J.J. Watt is a Hall of Famer is a first thought Hall of Famer. He's an incredible football player. Can't stand him. Well, that taught you the lesson to never talk shit when you're down. Well, it's just, it's like, let's play chess, not checkers.

Why would I talk shit to you when I'm down? Like, it's the fourth quarter. I'm down by 21 points. The game is lost. It's over. What am I going to do? What am I going to salvage my pride? I can salvage that by.

just shutting my mouth and moving on to the next game. So do you still? I do talk shit. I talk shit in the beginning of games. When it wins at zeros, my mouth is running. Will knows that. All right. If it's close, I'm talking.

As soon as things get out of hand, time to zip it up, buckle it up, and kind of get ready to move on to week two or week three, whatever we're on next. That's just the reality. It's what you got to do. No way. No way, fuck that. I'm a real G.

I do every, no. Just leave it alone. Like, if you're losing, and you're getting your ass kicked, let the other guy talk shit to you. They've won the battle, even if you've been beating him all game. So do you still hate JJ Wong? Yeah, I'm not a fan. So my wife and my wife put on a Houston Strong event.

She raised $80,000 in two days for the hurricane in Houston. And they're talking about where we should donate it. And they want to do Red Cross, but Red Cross like chops off 10% off the top for them to keep their stuff going. and the only foundation that doesn't take anything off the top was the boy j j what never never got got a thank you card never got a phone call we have the same agent well 80 000 i mean that's he what he raised like 20 million you're like you're fucking you're like a drop of piss in the toy it would have been it would have been 392 if i didn't donate though 30 i'm sorry 30 point nine two i i used to we used to go after j j j we went out and interviewed him in Wisconsin and I'm like friendly with him now. And I just,

I think he was trying too hard at the beginning of his career. And he's kind of realized like he he doesn't have to be a superhero. And he's a genuinely nice guy. Like if I meet someone and I talk to them and it's like, this guy's just a nice person. I'm not going to keep hating them. I'm not going to keep busting their balls the same way. Because that's just what JJ. Like he's a nice guy. He has good intentions. He's, I think he's a loyal guy. I think he's like probably a very good friend to his friends. So yeah, he could be corny sometimes, but he's admitted that he's corny. And if you can admit it, like, you, you kind of, you kind of solved the riddle. Like, if you, if we had interviewed JJ and he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not corny. Like, that's just who I am. We'd be like,

fuck this. But he admitted like, yeah, I tried a little too hard to start like my career. Sorry. I think you can accept that. Because the things are the things that I, like I would hear allegedly is that he always knows when the cameras around and stuff of that nature. He's But knowing that I have heard that. He's admitted that. He's admitted that. Oh, he's admitted that.

Yes. He's admitted that like he did that too much. So and anytime someone does that, I think it, it's like, hey, you know what? He learned from like,

we've all made mistakes. We're all fucking idiots when we were younger. We all like don't know how to deal with success. Don't know how to deal with this, that or the other. Like, I think about 23 year old me and I cringe. You know what I mean?

Like I'm sure you guys have the same moment. So it's just, he just happened to be in front of millions and millions and millions of people all the time and everything was being videotaped. So it was cringe-worthy moments or something that we can basically make fun of nonstop. Yeah, I think what really pissed me off

was the fact that he's and Taylor can attest this too. There is no one on their own running however many have gassers in like a whole extra practice after a hard training camp day. I saw that on hard knocks. I was like, this dude, this is false because we, on the Redskins, we practice against them. So we were around, we saw this stuff,

and then you see it on TV and you're like, this is, this is bullshit. Like, that's how you, that's how we identify that, like, he knows on the cameras on him. Mm-hmm. Interesting. And playing with guys that have played with him has expressed the same thing. However, if you're willing to admit that you're, you push a little too far, which I can attest that I have to, and we're all about retracting statements right now, I might need to talk to him. I might not have a conversation with JJ.

I might need to have a sit-down, Zoom conversation. but I think that I've, I might have gone a little too hard on JJ. And, yeah, I retract my statement. Taylor, we should have him on, Taylor, and we should just both apologize to him. I can help you bridge the gap. Yeah, I'll bridge you. I'll bridge the gap. If we're about retracting, once I heard that, I'm like, okay, if he's admitted, like,

I can get on board with that. Because I know if he confront me to my face, I would probably fall. Well, and that. If he's like, hey, hey, you're talking all this shit? Oh, whoa, take it easy, big guy. I probably didn't say all that. Let's go sit over here and have a question and have a little chat. He wouldn't do that because he's a nice guy.

And he also like, I think there's something to be said, you guys don't fall on this camp. I don't fall on this camp. But I think there are certain people and everyone has that friend who's like, you know that friend who doesn't really bust balls? He's just a nice guy. Like you have friends that are just not capable of like giving each other shit. Like that one guy in your friend group who's just a nice guy and everyone likes him.

And it's like, but you know that like he's not going to be able to give it back. so you don't give it to him as hard. Like that's kind of what I always figured when I met JJ. I was like, oh, I have a friend just like you. Like, this makes sense, you know? What's his name? Dude, you can be part of the crew. And I'm not going to say his name because it'll be mad that I busted his balls here.

But like, there's that one guy. You know, most times, most of your friends, like almost all my friendships are just pretty much shitting on each other all the time. And so, but then you got one guy who's like, yeah, you just kind of, you root for him. And you're like, hey, he's a nice guy. Let's root for his success. Yeah, I would say most of my friends are like that.

Will is my person for that. Like I don't like to give him too hard of a time because he does fold. Yeah, he's like his dog. He is kind of a pussy like that. Get the fuck out of here, dude. We're not bringing this shit up. If there's anybody who can take jokes, it's the boy.

If there's anybody who can't take jokes, it's Taylor Luan. Okay. Oh, man. Here's where we are, Will. We're in a classic Mexican standoff here. This is the situation, you know, when you're with your friends and you say,

hey, stop being sensitive. and you think to yourself like, no, I'm not being sensitive, but you realize, like, however hard you react to being sensitive, now you are actually proving them right by being sensitive. Yes. So the only way, the only way to beat that will with my wall, okay. Okay. All right, Will, you win.

You're triggered. I'm not sure you have that. I'm going to have your moment. You can have your moment. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. All right. Let me ask you guys this, because obviously people want to hear about this. where are we at with our beef?

Because you guys, you know, now we're coworkers. That's true. You started the beef. And then, yeah, I, I, you know, it was, it was a well-played beef. I never was actually mad. It was pretty funny. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Just, I get it.

Like, you're, you've, you've grown, like, you guys, Barstool, like, they understand the game. And for you to say, we started the beat is false. 1,000% false. Here's why. Hang on. Okay. Okay. We, when Braves came on his favorite podcast, which has been addressed already,

part of my take. He actually said, Mussel with the boys. We listened to the same. And it backfired on you. When he came on and said he would snip his piece off for a Super Bowl, you guys addressed it in your next podcast and you said, not I quote, but in some form of fashion, you were like, I can't believe he came on.

He's like one of our football guys. I can't believe he didn't come on our podcasts and say that. he went on his offensive lineman's podcast. I don't even know what it's called. What's, stop me where I said something wrong. And PFT goes, yeah, why didn't he go on his defensive players podcast or something?

And I've played for the man too on defense. And you're like, oh, I don't know, you guys kind of use it all. And then if you take Rabel's clip or Jalen Ramsey's clip, when he talked about like him talking shit to receivers or whatever, you guys will take your image and quote him.

And then it'll be like a little down in the corner, Via Bustin with the boys. It's very small print down the tiny. You guys still won't address us. Okay. Okay. Talk about eight point font times new Roman. Not even a little class to it. Nothing. All fair. All right. Let me give you from my perspective. One, I remember vividly, I was reading the ESPN article. So I, you got to fire your social team because I didn't see it from you guys. I read it off of ESPN article. We were in the incubator stage. Two, your social team, you guys, whoever was running your, your social account, I think their only job was to wake up and comment on part of my take

tweets and Instagrams and my tweets and Instagrams. And that's all they did for like a month. It was, I couldn't go anywhere without busing with the boys popping up. That's good. Hey, that's good branding. Guess what? Guess what, Big Cat? You're going to get RIP Matanile, but damn it, he did it for the boys. He did. Sorry, I didn't know. That's, I, that's okay. It's Okay, it's okay. It's okay. You also tweeted, remember. Yeah, oh yeah, he would, yeah, he'd be on. Matt Neely, we're thinking about you right now. Great job, dude. You fucking crushed it because I literally woke up and I'd turn my, I would look over my shoulder and it would be that fucking

stupid ass logo in that horrible room. It's so gross. Yeah. Right in my fucking comment. Dude, but you tweeted too like, uh, I think like, Tara Luan won't stop being annoying to me or something. He said, here you go. Here's your shout-out. Bust with the boys. So just the level of disrespect that kind of built up over time, it made for a good piece in the old memory bank. Now here we are. Just playing chess. Just playing chess. Hold on. Bass for a big cat, fast forward real quick. We can go back to this, but we're going to quit and Tarantino's things. That's what we do in the bus.

Fast forward. We're walking through Barstall headquarters. You come in and this, oh, this jumpsuit, this 70s jumpsuit. Yeah. With your, with your glasses on like this and go, I knew what you guys were doing the whole time. I knew what you guys were doing to the whole time. I mean, you were commenting on everything. So I kind of figured it. Well, you took our stuff. You were using our stuff as material.

Yeah. I was quoting an ESPN article. So then my favorite quote, and maybe your producer can put this in, but my favorite quote was when Taylor said, you guys were like shitting on me. And you were like, anyone thinks that they can put a microphone in front of their face and be funny and and build an audience. And I was like, is Taylor realized he's talking about his fucking self right now? He started a podcast three weeks ago.

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They just released some fire performance polos and new Q-Sips, perfect for the warm weather rolling in. So go check them out at rowback.com. Lastly, they wanted to shout out and congratulate the boys for joining the bar stool fam. And they're reserving us parking spot for the bus. on the fucking moon because that's where we're going with barstool dude shout out roback go to rowback go to rowback.com use code bust and 20% off hey what's funny about that podcast is is Taylor like started that podcast and he was going back in on the whole bar stool because we had posted more content about we're with quit nelson yeah Taylor was going in and i remember like hey are we sure we want to

get into this little dilemma with bar still and then at the end he's like hey i just want you know i apologize we're going to back i never thought it was i never took to took it to be serious and that was what the fun was. Like if you guys were, if you guys had played it serious and been like super pissed, then it wouldn't have worked. You know what I mean? Like it, like it just, it worked out perfectly. So now you're part of the pirate ship.

And, uh, the whole thing is funny to look back at. But I just remember. And yeah, Quinn was pissed at us. Quentin, I watched back. I played it back for when he came into the office like a month ago. I was like, dude, watch this clip. He's like, you know what that fucking pisses me off. Fuck those guys.

And obviously, Quinn, Nelson, I'm like, I'm not trying to start shit with him. I was like, hey, can I show you this clip, but like, just settle down there, big boy. He laughed about it, too, so it's all good. Dude, Quinn, Quinn is like the nicest human. Quinn is, what we were talking about, JJ Walt, like, matches human being in the world. He's not going to dish it like that.

But he's like, one of the dudes, like, won't hurt a fly unless for some reason he puts a helmet on. Then all of a sudden, it's absolutely terrifying. Quinn, the only thing I have to ask about Quinn is I'm sure you guys have gone out with him. Quentin strikes me as the friend, and this isn't a bad thing, because again, this is a friend that we all have, that when I had a few beers, maybe wrestles a little with the guys and then, like, ends up, like, breaking someone's leg because he's 10 times bigger than everyone. I can see it happening. I can absolutely see it happening. But it's always good fun. Yeah. I was with Quentin and Cabo, and he spent a whole entire dinner pretending that drinks were talking shit to him and then just chugging them. He's like, what you say about me? You say, I look a little. fat today and you just chug a margarita. He's Taylor.

He did like seven or eight times the entire time we were there to the point where like I left Cabo thinking that food was talking shit to me and actually would start eating the food because like the name of Quinn Nelson. In the name of Quentin Nelson, dude. That's why we're always when we're out eating and you're like and you see me like one that like he's something nice. Hey, Will's that thing talking shit to you. That's really nice.

We'll be out there a little cookie. You'll have that cookie something shit to you. Hey, Connie. I see that. I cut a little shit over there. I'll tell you one. Speaking of not eating cookies, Big Cat, like, first up, let's just put it all behind us. I think we can all agree we're friends now at this point.

Yeah, you guys, you guys, you're success. Yep, and we're going to start it all. Hang on, hang on. No, no, no, Taylor. I want to hear what he was about to say. No, we're all good because I want you guys to be successful. Your success puts money into my pocket. So I want you guys to win.

I thought you were going to say. You didn't see that happening right there? No. That's hilarious. No, like, I'm team busing with the boys. As soon as Big Cat went, well, I'm excited, that high-pitched frequency. He lives in New York. He hasn't gotten that excited in two weeks.

He's in quarantine. He literally is so excited for us to make money, which, by the way, you're welcome. I think we're the number one podcast for you guys' whole thing. So the pirate ship is really afloat. Not even close to true. The pirate ship was literally like, we don't know what to do. We're in quarantine. And they just literally pulled a lever that said bust him with the voice.

Here's what I'm going to do. And we're now drifting off the sea dude and getting your sales. right you're welcome here's what i'm gonna do you know those little um the little the little uh trucks that like little kids drive around like three year olds i'm gonna get my my son's not he's only 10 months now but when he gets to be like two i'm gonna buy one i'm gonna put bust him with the boys all over it i'm gonna buy it with the money that you're putting in my pocket perfect oh i love it is there i love it i love it my daughter is um she's two and a half now and um her daddy made is his own money so we're just gonna buy her whatever she wants whatever she wants so they'll be okay you know what

I'll pay for your stuff too. It's amazing. Taylor, what are we trying to do here? I don't know. He started it again. He did it again. Yeah. I'm literally, I'm literally sweating right now. Oh my God. He got me all hot and bothered. I thought he was going to say your success came from recycling an idea we used to have because internally that bothers me when I hear that. I try not to react because, hey, I can take a good joke. Yeah. I do that. In my gut will burn when somebody says, oh, where did you get the bus idea from?

And I literally think of my head. It literally came from Taylor's brain when he saw a picture of a bus and just got excited. Yeah, when he saw Barstool Van talk and he was like, dude, this would be good. No, I never thought you guys ripped us off for that. That is the most like interviewing people. We ripped Jerry Seinfeld off. Like Jerry Seinfeld lift ripped off the taxi cab confessions, dude. Like, or whatever the fuck.

Like there's this has been done a million times. I never. Yeah. I never thought you guys did that. It's such a stupid thing. That was a PFT comment. That was a PFT move. We'll have him on next.

One thing that I do have a beat with Barstool about, which we're fine now. I'm sorry. I got a little hot there for a second. I haven't had a lot of human contact in the last two weeks, so it's nice to finally get revved up. When I was in college at Michigan, a football player, Barstool would come and have these banger parties. and I'd never even thought about this. And then last night, my wife and I started watching the bar stool, the documentary you guys have, which is unbelievable, by the way.

I'm like on episode four or five. And we started doing how they're making these parties. I never got into those parties ever. I actually was turned away several times. Dude. And it is a full circle thing for me. And so I'm very happy to be a part of the pirate ship. Listen, listen, those parties, like I would have given you my information.

invite because I've never felt more awkward in my life when we would do those. Dave and I would go and it was there was sometimes we'd have parties that were not we didn't have to go to but I know for a fact we went to at least one in Ann Arbor where Dave and I were dressed in Togas. I was probably 29 or 30 Dave was like 38 or 39. I've never felt more out of place in a party like in my life. I was mortified standing there in a fucking toga. And of course, all the kids didn't wear togas. They're like, fuck this. We're not wearing togas.

So we showed up like in the, we're the only two people in togas. And we're like, what the fuck is going on here? And I think we stayed for like a half hour. We're like, we got to get out of here. So I would have given you my invite. They were, uh, it was fun when we did them because it was like, that was when we're really building it up and like had to be boots on the ground.

But, uh, it's funny that that is full circle. it's wild what year do you think that was that you guys ran Ann Arbor if you had to guess to me 13 14 well I was there in 13 yeah yeah 13 or 14 yeah probably both we went to a couple times we went there for different videos and different shit yeah no I never expected to like get a treatment to get in there I don't know why I thought I would be able to get in but I've ever going to these bars with things and like being like this is this would be so sick to be a part of this and then here we are it's why And now, and now it's kind of another full circle because I'm 28 married with a kid.

I'm too old to go to those parties now. Yes. So things. So I, I was born too late, I guess. I don't know. Yes. Yes. What's, um, what's, are you still on a team right now?

No, that wasn't supposed to be me. I'm actually asking. Taylor, that's a serious question. Don't fucking laugh. No, I know you're not. I was actually asking. I didn't know if you had, because I know you were on a team last year. Yeah, free agency started like mid-March, so I'm back to being a free agent again.

Is it, do you think coronavirus is fucking with like, because I've always, it is weird to see from like the media side. I feel like the dudes at the top end are getting paid still, but like everyone else is kind of screwed because if a team's going to take a risk on someone or like, you know, sign someone, they want to do the physical, they want to do the meeting and all that shit. you can't do any of them. Yeah. I don't know, like a couple things I've heard is that it can, the, like the guys who make not, the guys that aren't on the top, everybody else. I was talking to somebody the other day,

an agent the other day, and they were kind of telling me that, like, owners, the way everything is, like the landscape of spending money and spending cash, and you might take a couple million in cash and give the, give to some vet. If it's affecting your bottom line,

because a lot of the owners aren't as, liquid as like a Jerry Jones outside of owning a football team. Like a lot of their liquidity, it's really counting on this football season happening and stuff like that. So there's kind of a theory. That's not like end all be all. But that was like a thought of like some second tier, third tier per aging guys getting signed.

Like there's kind of a period that whereby it's kind of in the stance. That makes sense. I just fucking hope they have football. I mean, I'm going to. It's going to. It's crazy. I mean, it doesn't seem everyone to have any kind of all season program. No. I mean, I got to be on a team to have one.

Zero. Zero. Yeah. But think about like the draft picks and stuff. Like how weird is that going to be for them? They're going to just, they won't show up till maybe June, July at the earliest. Right. At the earliest. They might not show up till, I mean, when we were talking to Kirk Herb Street, he's talking about like college football season happening in February and March.

Who is the say that doesn't happen to the NFL too? Right. You know? Right. And how long does that go? How long is our breakup to that? Do what we go kind of like a baseball where it's like three? months and then we go right back into it it's it's a crazy crazy if you college if you do college

like that in the spring you're going to have the draft and training for like training for all this stuff happening the whole thing you're going to have to kind of postpone yeah it's it's almost like you got to you got to stay in your lane with the august through january because if you go in the uncharted territories of january to march april all that you've now fucked up 2021 and now it's like what do you do then are you Taylor, do you know the answer to this? Like if they cancel the season, do you get paid or no? I would assume that's the biggest question.

So there was an article. I think so. I think we do. There was an article that came out that was like, the NBA and MLB and hockey can do something where they can say like a natural disaster and like there's some sort of way they can twist it to not pay the players. And like the NFL, and this might not be right at all. It might be totally wrong.

The NFL somehow in the CIS. somehow in the CBA, which is maybe the only thing we've done right in the CBA, like that is, like they can't do that. They would have to pay us still. Like, they're still contractually obligated to pay us the 2020 season, which, interesting. That would be, I don't know, chaos. Because like Will's saying, if it's true, like some teams are cashed for

and they're leaning on that thing to happen, like, who's a guy like Portnard and like, you'll get pennies in the dark, go buy a team, you know? Yeah. Something created. It's fucking true, dude. I think the same market has to do better than these next few days for that to happen.

Dude, okay, so I was really thinking... Yeah, that is hilarious. I saw the videos of the racetrack. I've become like an avid barstall guy since we've joined and I've been watching a lot of the pizza reviews and the box reviews. And I just feel like Dave might be mentally unstable right now and we need to call somebody to go to his house.

I'm worried about the guy. Yeah, we just... I literally just taped the rundown before I came on here and I was telling him, I was like, I think the unboxing will kill you. like it's going to kill you. And he was saying like he couldn't sleep last night because he had so many baby cuts on his hand.

And I was like, this is exactly like a running back getting like 35 carries in a game. And then Monday morning, like they can't walk down the stairs. Dude, I feel bad for the guy, man. And then he signs this big deal with what a, this, what, gambling company. Yeah. And gambling's not doing it too hot right now.

Dude. And I'm not coming at. Dave, I'm not saying he's like, it's just like, kind of just like what's out there, right? No, no. It's my, it's me too. I bought, I bought some of the Penn stock. Yeah. I was ready to ride the way.

Oh, dude. Our, our boy, or dude who like owns the company we're working with that he's saying this. Like, we got to back him somehow. So the boy, I'm just I shovel some money into the pen just to see a crash. We'll be back. We'll be back. I mean, I have my futures in Penn. So we'll be back.

It's, you know. Oh, no question. It's going to come right back up, dude. Dude, once sports come back, it's like all good news from there. then we'll be back. All good news from that. Things are going to skyrocket as soon as sports come back. Give me one sport.

I don't care. Just have one ball moving on my screen and it's like, boom, next thing you know, we're back. Pause. One of these need one ball moving on that guy's screen. That's all you need. Yeah, no, pause. Lance Armstrong.

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and share their educational video to help save lives and make. balls. You also get 20% off and free shipping. Again, code bussen at manscape.com. Your balls will thank you. Back to the episode. Yes. Yeah. Dude, talk. Unbelievable work. Unbelievable work. I'm going to change the subject because we were talking about the cookie thing earlier and it made me think of all of your weight loss. What moment happened when you're just like, yo, I'm just going to lose a shit ton of weight because you look, you look weight. When I saw you in the jumpsuit and live in action, I was like, yo, big cat is not necessarily big cat anymore. Well, he's a medium cat. I'm back up though. I'm over. I'm over. I'm

Oprah. So I yo-yo. I go back. Jenna Hill. Yeah, dude. I'm like, there's like a 30. It's pretty much my, I mean, my bar stool, like, career, it's anywhere from like 205 to like 250, 255. So it's long. Like, but it's usually I'm, I'm somewhere in like a 20, 30 pound, like yo-yo. Right now, actually today I'm, I started my diet on Monday. So I gained 15 pounds in the first three weeks of quarantine. That's hard to do. That's hard to do. I'm now trying to get that back off, go the other way. I know it's like, it's the unhealthiest thing you can do.

I think that's like the number one thing that's like don't you yo-yo your weight. And it's that's all. Yeah. And they say like if you want to gain weight healthy, it's one pound a week. If you want to lose weight healthy, it's one pound a week. It's like that's like you should stare, climb it down. Stare climb it down. Yeah.

Like I'm 15 pounds in three weeks. And then in two days of dieting, I'm down like five pounds. So I'm the opposite of that. Do you listen to anything like? or any other podcast like that? Wait, say that. Again, you broke up for a second. Sorry, do you listen to Joe Rogan or anything like that?

I don't listen to Joe Rogan, no. The length always, I just don't have enough time in the day. I'll listen to Joe Rogan if there's a guest that I really want to listen to. Like, I listen to the last one I probably listened to was the Queens of Stone Age lead guitarist. That was like three months ago. But I listened to Rissilo. because he's a friend. I listen to...

I don't even know what else I listen to, to be honest. Like, I jump around a lot. Like, it's really just seasonal, too. Like, I will listen to, I'll try to find, like, whatever sports going on just to kind of, like, supplement whatever my knowledge is in what we're talking about, being like, all right, like, this is I'm listening to this guy about college basketball or NBA or anything like that. So it's really jumping around. So, like, the reason why I brought up Joe Rogan is he does a lot of, he's obviously a big health freak, big, exercise freaking. He does a bunch of stuff like TRT, testosterone therapy stuff.

Why don't you just dabble in that? Why don't you get Buffcat? Dude, I want to, but I feel like there's a super healthy way to do it. No, no, no, no. No, not testosterone. As football, as football players, we obviously can't do it. But there's like, um, listen.

Listen, listen, I failed. Well, if you do, you get caught. Well, I'll fight my own battles. everything's fine everything's fine there's this thing called austring that's what i failed for it was a trace amount not even enough to do anything for people who are listening right now taylor just pulled out a card out of his wallet it looks like it's from his lawyer and he's reading it word for word so this thing is called austrian there's a trace amount dude and it's for people with osteoporosis the thing that I got popped for wouldn't even be a benefit in football.

That being said, I've done a whole bunch of things about it. I took a lie detector test. There's nothing else I can do. I don't want to go back in time here, but that timing of our beef and then you getting popped right after. Oh, bro. That was gold. I can't even,

dude, I have to, like literally when I put it out there, when I press send on that video, I swear to God, I'm not even joking, you came into my mind. I'm like,

fuck. well there it goes. I also thought when we were going through our beef is if it got really bad, I looked at Will and I was like, man, if I have one bad game, like if I had give up a sack, like,

who's to say Barclos does and just like go and put that on every single social media account? Yeah, that's right. You did say that. Easily just kill me for everything. So we motivated you to play well. Yeah, yep.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. So anyway, you can go. I do want to do it. Can I do it? Yeah, there's a doctor in the, York actually, he's a nutritionist that I use now. His name's Oz Garcia. And he can get you on,

it's a healthy way to give you more testosterone that is beneficial for your muscles, for your joints, for your ligaments. And it doesn't make you like fucking super yoked up, but it like helps your metabolism, helps you have leaner muscle, like helps burn fat better. And there's not like a ebbs and flows. You have tities one week. You have, you know, muscles and next. It's like, it's literally like a healthy, steady diet of like keeping your testosterone at a decent level. because after the age of 27 years old, your testosterone starts doing this. Yeah. That's why.

Oh, dude, I'm low tea. I've been low tea for a while. Well, I'm, I got to be low tea too. Usually people that work out a lot like us, like us, you know, and Will, will, we'll see her too. For guys that work out and stuff like that, they have like a lower testosterone because they use it all when they work out. So if you were to do, I bet you if you did all the office line in the NFL, I bet you

85% of them would be low testosterone. That makes sense. I've just used up all my testosterone. being a fucking alpha. You said you have a boy, right? Yes. Strong testosterone. Mm-hmm.

But you're a girl dad. You get to use the hashtag girl dad. I'm so jealous. I know. That's so cool, dude. That's so cool. God. I'll tell you what,

dude, having a girl is pretty epic. I'm not going to lie. Because she's sweet. She's nice. We've gone through a phase in the last three, four days where I think my daughter hates me.

And so that's not like a fun thing at all because like she literally, she wants nothing to do with me. And I've done nothing wrong. I don't understand it. And I'm at the little bit of mercy. I feel like I'm in high school getting picked on right now by my child. So my days usually consist of me trying to win back my kid by feeding her cookies when her mom's not looking and stuff like that.

But anyway, Oz Garcia, go check them out because I feel like if you want to get, you can become buff cat, dude, forget big guys. I'm, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it.

I need to get like, it's just the energy thing. I always say it. Like, people are like, oh, dude, like you're trying to get in shape to look good. It's like,

no, I don't give a fuck how I look. I just want to not like, like, wake up and be tired all the time. You're dragging ass in the afternoon. Yeah. Will and I talk about that all the time.

How can we optimize our energy all the time? Like how do you stay up? Like how do dudes like David Goggins and Joe Rogan, those types of dudes like always are going and going and going and it's like, I try to do it for three, four days and I crash. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Taylor, you got a second one coming on the way. Tell him, tell him the name. Taylor was a second child. You got a name coming? Yeah. Yeah, Willow. Willow A. Luwain is going to be her name. I'm a girl.

I was surprised too. I was surprised. That's an honor, Will. Yeah. Don't even. They sent me down. They called me.

They're like, hey, when you come over to the house, we want to tell you something. And I was like, yeah, absolutely. I get my truck like I always do.

Don't ask any questions. They need, my people need a favor. No questions asked. I'm honored. Drive on over there. They sent me down. Like, hey,

we've been thinking a lot. We went back and forth with a lot of names. We were hoping for a boy, because we're going to name it after you, but we're having a girl, and we would still like to name her after you, and we're just going to, it's going to be Willow.

And there was tears, Taylor started crying for some reason, we hugged, and I am, I'm honored. I can't wait for that happened. I'm going to have a big announcement. Yeah.

We actually, my wife and I, since that conversation with Will, that was actually 100% factual. Everything, he just said, nothing was off base at all. We've actually started,

we've thought about changing the name now. So we're actually looking into new baby names. but as a right now Daniel's solid Okay we can do that Yeah Daniel's too basic I think I know a couple

Daniels and I have a couple memories with some Daniels I know some Daniels No I'm good on Daniels Oh shit What we're all right Well we got anything else boys

What are we thinking Hey what do you think about I got some notes I got some notes right there The new Unis Yeah let me see Let me see some notes Yeah

I got five more minutes because like I told Trista that I would do something with her. But yeah, let me see, let me see the notes. Let's go, let's go speed round through the notes. New uni, what do you think, Buccaneers? Bucks, new unis, whatever. Who cares? It's the bucks. Really?

I do what you mean on that point, but I got to stay. My boy Levante, David, I can't hit the bucks. But I like the, I like the bugs, how they're going back to their normal early 2000s look. Yeah, I had no real problem with it. It's just like, I don't know. When you do a uni drop, I feel like it's just always going to be not like, it's never going to be the hype that you're putting behind it. And people are always going to roast it. So when I saw the Bucks uniform, let me see this.

The positive for the Bucks uniform is I really had no issue with it. There you go. That's actually going to get at the throne. Yeah. That's as good as you can get because no one will ever be like, oh, my God, those uniforms are incredible, those new ones. Right. They're just going to be like, yeah, yeah, that's okay. Yeah.

Atlanta Falcons. So the throwbacks that they have are one of my favorite uniforms out there. The black tops, white bottoms, everything else they put out there is trash. Yeah. The whole ATL in the front, it doesn't look good, dude. No. It feels it's got that, you know, how everybody uses the XFL or arena football league jersey. That's what it reminds me of.

Have you seen him, Taylor? Yeah, yeah, I'm not a fan. I like their old school stuff. Yeah. I'm a firm believer. The more old school you go with uniforms, the cooler they actually look. I don't know why teams just don't do throwbacks. Like if you guys wore Houston Oilers gear, like those light blues would be so fire.

The Falcons old uniforms are awesome. I don't know why teams deviate from, like, just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad. It's usually good. I'm not a fan of the back. I actually talked to Amy Adamschuk about that situation. And she said she wants to do the Oilers throwbacks, but it's the helmet. issue because you can't change the color of the helmet. Shell.

They're talking about changing the shell. Yeah, they're doing that now. They're changing that. Yeah. So she, I think if they change a shell, I think we go oil or throwback, which I think there's a lot of haters out there that would say that Houston. Texans should be able to wear it because it's Houston. I fully disagree. They moved it. The franchise moved.

The Tennessee Titans should be able to use the oil or uniforms. I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah. Last thing. Draft, draft on Zoom. Oh, it's done. Packed. How is this going to work? I know, dude. I have no idea.

I was listening to Chris Long's podcast, shout out Chris Long. But the idea of having on Zoom, and he's like, yo, anybody can hack this stuff? Yes. How are you going to have any conversation

with all in your war room that you have set up without somebody going to hack something? Also, like, one, coaches are going to be so confused. Like, Vrabel's the best, but there's no way that he will,

like, someone will put it in front of him. him and he'll he's a smart guy but like imagine the like you have internet issues or like chops in and out he's going to lose it no oh dude he's gonna punch whoever's right next though he'll be like uh he'll be like what's the two guys from uh zoolander throw literally like a apes on the computer and they'll throw it'll throw it on the ground yes like he won't be able to handle that at all yes i think uh i think what they need to do is literally just do NFL NFL NFL network needs to put rich eyes in by himself in front of a camera and then people just hand him up

hand him a note, love Rich, I said, hand him a note, and he says who they pick. And then it goes to, you know, Todd McShay and all these other guys. And they're in their own areas, and they talk about it. But like, if you're sitting there with a Zoom and it's like, you know, some guys like this trying to talk and do it, he's like, yeah. So we picked, he's a good player. It's not going to work that way. It just won't work that way. So I think you need to keep it as basic as possible.

Andy Reid, the him trying to do that, he's probably still celebrating his damn Super Bowl. No way he's going to be sober enough to handle. No, he doesn't drink. He doesn't drink? He's a Mormon. I don't know what that means. He just eats, dude. Hey, hey, I knew a couple of Daniels that were Mormon back in the day, too.

I'm just kidding. Yeah, he just eats. That's hilarious. Yeah. God, that's impressive. You know, all the power tune, too. And then you know what? If anything happened from today's podcast, I got educated.

Yes, there you go. Perfect. That's beautiful. It's been fun. I've had a, I don't care what everyone says about you guys. You're a lot funnier than I thought you'd be. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah. Yep. Well, there's no. Hey, hey. Are you guys backlogging? Are you guys backlogging right now? Well, so what we're doing is like every week we go into the studio one night. So like last night we went in and we recorded four interviews.

So it's kind of like that. So like we're doing everything on Zoom, but then one night a week, we go in and we try to get like we just did interview interview interview right back and back and forth so it sucks up because you can't obviously interview anyone in person right now yeah PFT made the comments says you guys don't talk unless you're like in front of a mic or really camera not don't talk like your friendship sucks but you're saying like we don't really do anything unless we can get some content out of it right at this point no that's just basic like that's yeah like during the if if times are normal we'd be talking all the time but because times aren't normal like we basically

are like, let's save, we don't have a lot of content. So let's save. Usually we'd be texting ideas or texting jokes. It's like, let's save all of our discussion for the podcast because there's no sports to talk about. Yeah. Taylor and I don't do that. Yeah, on original people. Yeah, well, Will and I just kind of go off the cuff 24-7.

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