Bussin' With The Boys - Bijan Robinson Talks His Rookie Year + His Relationship With Arthur Smith

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

Recorded: May 9th 2024 | We jave another bonus episode for the boys. While the guys were down in Atlanta they had to the opportunity to sit down with stud running back, Bijan Robinson. Everyone knows how electric Bijan is as a player and he talks gets into what his rookie season was like and how he adjusted to the NFL game. There was a lot of controversy during the middle of the season as to why Bijan wasn't getting as many touches and not being utilized in the right. Will and Taylor asked Bijan how he felt about his playing time and if felt like he was being used in the best way possible. After this interview, you will find it hard to not like Bijan as he just comes as such a good dude. Enjoy fellas TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Michigan RBs vs Texas RBs 3:33 Recruiting Journey 6:26 The Negative Side Of NIL 8:55 The Relationships With Coaches 10:36 His Rookie Year 13:36 Biggest Difference In The NFL vs College 16:04 John Wick Or Jason Bourne 17:02 When Did He Know He Belonged In The League 18:27 Arthur Smith And Bijan’s Workload 23:06 Expectations For Year 2 25:26 Reaction To Signing Kirk Cousins 27:36 Bijan Mustard 31:52 His Love For Video Games 35:18 The Atlanta Offensive Line 36:09 Tier Talk 47:56 Dealing With AdversityFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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came out of Michigan. Okay, Ricky Williams. The goat. Couldn't stop smoking. Oh. Yeah. Earl Campbell, really good ball player. And you've only had one year in the league, brother.

I mean, we got a... But we're talking college ball. No, I did say I'm biased. But there's been, like, I mean, you got... 55 touchdowns. Jamal, Charles. But what did you say about Blake Corms touchdowns? No, I mean, no, I mean...

He's one of the best running back college football history. I give him that. But there was a lot of them touchdowns. One of the best running backs in college football history. He is. But he doesn't hold a candle to you guys. I respect him heavy.

But I don't know. I mean, you saw in the draft this year that the first running back taking off the board was from Texas. He's from Texas. How'd y'all do against Washington? How'd that go? It'd go well. We handled it for you the next week. Y'all did.

We took care of business. We won a national championship. You're right. You're right. And congratulations. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll get that one next year.

You think you're good this year? I think we're really good. Even just us going to the SEC, like, I think we have, like, a really good chance of doing some good stuff. I mean, we got everybody coming from the portal. Yeah, you guys in Ohio State. But are they going to build the culture?

How is it playing for Coach Sark? Man, it was so much fun. Like, just having, you know, him is not necessarily a father figure, but, like, an older brother to come and, like, actually coach me and just take me in. And what was cool was, like, me and Sark, I was with him for the rise of what he has now.

So, you know, with, like, those struggles that we went through, like, that was, like, what we had to go through. And now seeing him, you know, be, you know, respected around the whole college football, around everybody that knows football, like, it's pretty sick. I ain't a lie. But he's definitely the dude that I respect a lot, especially for, like, making me who I am today as a young man, but I love that dude, man. Dude, Texas is such a dope university.

We had the opportunity to go there and check it out. When did y'all go? We went last spring. Last spring. Yep. But the uniforms, just like how everyone kind of rides to the longhorns there, it's a dope university. It's crazy.

And it's cool because like Texas, like, it's not a college town. But it feels like a college town because I'll bid the campuses. And then you got like downtown like five minutes away. So I thought I love it so much. Yeah. When you were coming up through high school, like what made you choose Texas? just a lot of prayer, bro. Like, like, you know, my faith is my big, it is my biggest thing.

So I just knew, like, that's for God wanted me to go. And, I mean, what, three years later, like, he was right. But it was more so, like, the coaches there. I mean, I had, like, my first running back coach, Coach Drayton. He was, like, the best college running back coach in the country. I mean, he had, like, Ezekiel Elliott at Ohio State. Like, he did so many, he had so many guys. So when I went to him, it was like a no-brainer.

and my first year, like, it was hard, really, because I had COVID. So it was a COVID year for me. I came in in the summer. So I didn't have, like, that spring, that spring development. Yeah. But it was, it was a good time, like, just going there and learning from him at first. And then obviously, he got a head coaching job, and then the rest was history. Was there any other school that came close?

Ohio State. So I know you hate to hear this. I know you hate to hear this. But, like, so I silently committed to Ohio State. for a week. Silently committed for a week. That's the second time we've heard that. I know it's like that little...

Yeah, for a week. Okay, I'm just letting you know. Yeah, I'm coming here. That's side girl talk again. Here we go. That's exactly what it was. And it was like, it was more so,

it was more so like people and players like in my ear telling me, like you gotta go here, you should go here. Like, we're gonna build a dynasty here. You're gonna be amazing. Which could have been true. But I just knew like,

you know, I could really go to Texas for, you know, 40-year decision and like not just football but I can become somebody here and always like always like feel like this is this was always the place for me and then I mean that was the main decision but yeah for a week man and I told the coaches like that was the hardest conversation in my life I was going to say how when you decommitted how was it it was tough it was tough because I called I called the coaches and I was like hey look like my heart's beating for you right I know I committed last Monday.

I know I committed on Monday. Yeah. Now it's Saturday. And I called him. I was like, you know, this just isn't the place for me. Like having to say that to like a grown man. And then him be like, what are you talking about? Like I sent all my running backs away.

Like you were the only one I was getting like. Holy guilt trip to you. It was, man. It was crazy. It's got to be heartbreak whenever that. Yeah. Yeah, because he's a fight. I mean, he was the man.

He is the man. He's continued to stay in the man. A lot of guys are a man and then they fizzle out. Still staying the man. Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. Like, it was just, it was just tough, like, to have that conversation as a 17-year-old kid.

And then him going to the rain, you still just be like, I know, I'm sorry. I know. It was like, I was with my family and they were just like, it's okay. It's okay. You had them on speaker phone? Yeah. Would you have family parents around you and stuff like that? They were, I didn't want to be here with you with this one.

Just whisper the phone. I know, coach. I know. That's what I was doing. I'm like. I'm so. Sorry, coach. Sorry, coach.

Was the biggest thing, like, a position coach and knowing, like, who they've mentored or coached? Yeah. What was the big pivotal thing for you? Was it that? It was a, yeah, position coach. Because you're just, like, you're going to be with him your whole time. So I think, and even just talking to, like, other running backs, you know, before I got there. And, like, Reggie Bush, like, his position coach in college was, like, that was his guy.

Like, he said, this is, the position coach is what's most important. Because if you don't agree with him, he doesn't agree with you, then you're not playing, and he doesn't trust you. And then he talks to the head coach, like, he's the most important, important guy for yourself. So even hearing that, I was like, all right, so let me, like, actually build a relationship. And then the crazy thing is, like, nowadays and NIL and stuff, bro, no relationships are being built. Like, and then that's why you see so many transfers and so many kids going to other places, because they're getting promised one thing

and then they're not producing on the field. So after one year, and not even after one year, after one, like, spring semester, like they're leaving. And I'm like, bro, like, first of all, it looks bad, in my opinion, but it's like you should have been building that relationship with a coach and knowing you can have that trust with him before you even get there. So you understand that when you're there, like, you know what's going to come, and you know what's about to happen beforehand.

So I think that's kind of where college football is changing. And I get it like you got to make your money and stuff. Not thinking too much long-term thinking like what can I get here and now. Exactly. Did you ever get tempted by some pre-N-IL-L-N-I-L? I never did. Never? Not once.

You don't even say names. Pre-N-I-L? Yeah, pre-N-I-L-I-L. They're not part of the SEC. I didn't have, well, I didn't have an I don't have an I-o when I came. I know. So like, even like the under-the-table stuff, like, it just never came across. Don't name names.

Did anybody ever try under the table stuff? I think they tried. They tried with my coach, my high school coach, and he was like, nah, like this isn't who, like you got the wrong kid. He's not going to come here off of begging or off of trying to get him with some money. Really?

So that all got sent away. Arizona kid, man. Arizona. Respect. Y'all's at ASU? Top five. Do what? That's the top five.

football state Taylor argues It is Cape Creek Come on So where you from In Arizona Tucson

Tucson Arizona That border country U of A Give you any interest U of A Zero percent None Like U of A

U of ASU No ASU over U of A though ASU will be over U of A Yeah Yeah Yeah I like ASU

Like I feel like if ASU Was Was a consistently Really good team Like They would get everybody Because got so lit

It is wild to me about ASU is like they have all the makings to have a good team they have great weather beautiful people there there's a lot of night life you can just bring like hey yo we can create something beautiful and you'll have so much fun that's what I'm trying to say there's so much money in Phoenix so much yeah and you have all these different areas like sponsors that will sponsor you but I don't know it was never it was never you talk about building relationships and how it's become way more transactional in college yeah coming in the NFL this is truly where it's a transactional business like you can what's the phrase you use you love me but don't

trust me. Yeah, yeah. I love you, but don't ever trust me. Right. That's the kind of the mindset of all these coaches. They want to build a relationship at any point if you're not doing your job. We'll see you later. No doubt. Do you, are you aware of that and still continue to build relationships regardless? Yeah, I'm definitely aware of it. You know, I've seen that firsthand, like, you know, guys have been here and then next day, like, they're not here anymore. And like my freshman, or not freshman, my first year last year, you know, just during rookie mini camp like I was with so many guys up to that point and then when we start with with a team then a lot of them are here and it was like it was like a shock to me I was like it's crazy right I just built

a relationship with these kids like with these dudes and then now they're not here no more and it's like okay so now you kind of see like where the business is and then even even like coaches too next day they're here one day they're not and I'm like right like like This whole time we've been jelling and but I see what like like that statement right there. I feel it's true. But for me, I think it's still important to, you know, build a relationship with those coaches because, you know, like I was just telling him, like, like Lord willing, I can stay here in my whole career, but say I'm not and say those coaches are somewhere else.

Like you built those relationships. So like they trust you. So when you're somewhere else and they're somewhere else, then they'll like vouch out for you and pick you up. Right, right. So that's why I think it's like. That's why I think you should keep the relationship the whole time. Talk us through your rookie year.

I listened to your podcast you did on the pivot, which is right before the draft. You do go the first round, which is awesome. No doubt. And talk about that process, getting drafted in the first round and then kicking off your rookie year. Yeah, man, I mean, so during that process, like, it's a long process. So just from when I'm done with my last year and my junior year

and then up to the draft, like those five months, five, six months are long. And it's repetitive of talking to coaches, doing combine training, doing interview training. Like, I'm doing so many things. And for me, like, I love to do other stuff. So I want to be an actor when I'm done playing football one day. And I've been doing acting classes. But those acting classes have been helping for the interview training because, like, it gets you comfortable and talking to coaches and get you comfortable and being in in different areas with

a lot of people in one setting. So like me having to go through that was a long process. But and then on top of that, like I was in the controversy of should you take a running back in the top 10? Like, yeah. Should you, you know, yes, you know, he might have the talent. He might be the most talented, but like should you still do it? Should you invest in it? So I was like hearing all that type of stuff too. And like it was it was weird because like some days I'll be walking walking just on the street and you see a TV in a restaurant and it's like your face is the one that's up there on like should you do this should you do that? I'm like and then that's the questions that I've been getting asked. So like that was like a definitely a different process for me. But I think

when you do get drafted like that was it's like the best family ever obviously and and going to the draft, like experiencing that, you know, if you have the opportunity to do that, I think you most definitely should as a player. But then when I got here, you know, that's when we started rookie minicamp. And like, that's what's about to happen right now here. And it's crazy. Like that was a year ago. But like that was, I think that was like a really great process for me, rookie minicamp,

because for me, like, yeah, I play running back, but I play other positions too. I play receiver, play slide. you can line me up anywhere. So, like, I really appreciate, you know, Arthur Smith for doing that to me. Because, you know, with him doing that for me, like, now where I'm at, the game just, like, slow down so much, like, instantly because I'm learning so many different things. Yeah. From linebackers to coverages to everything.

So, and then obviously with the season, like, yes, it was definitely a blessing of a season, you know, for myself. but even just learning, you know, how guys are, how coaches are. Like, it was definitely a fun, a fun time for me. Was it the hardest thing for you? Was the speed of the game at first? Or what was the biggest culture shock for you diving to the NFL, your first couple of games?

Yeah, so it wasn't really the speed of the game because dudes are a little faster than college. But I think it was more so, like, dudes are smarter in the league. So, like, you're not going to see a lot of guys, like, missed their gaps. I got to see a lot of guys underpursue and dudes are always chasing the ball somewhere somehow but I think

you know when you get a grasp of it and understand it then then you'll start to click but when you find your rhythm then it's like you're playing college ball game yeah when that camera angle came out and you're shifting around and that shit was nasty yeah and for me so for me like in college

like I would bring out the shit and stuff sometimes, but like not a lot. But I think now in the NFL, it gives me way more freedom to do that because these are coming from different angles in different areas. And you're always trying to get yards, but you're always trying to find a way to like make somebody miss because somebody's always right here. So I get to like obviously just slow a process down. I'll feel a defender coming any which way.

and then I know I have to do something real quick because if I don't, like, they're going to make a tackle. Yeah. So, like, breaking tackles for me is like, it's a fun thing. Which is interesting. Breaking tackles is a fun thing. Yeah, I assume so, absolutely. It's fascinating to hear him talk about it

because it's like, clearly he's like, I've added more shifting this to my game, but basically because the game's gotten faster, he's developed quicker. Right. There it is. That's exactly it. So, like, because the game's gotten faster,

like, I have to get faster in my process. So you just said in your head eye, I'm going to get faster. Well, even his instincts, it ends up coming. The instincts come like, yeah. It's like you're in the, I don't even know how to explain it. If you could. If I, if I could, it's like you're in a, have you seen John Wick? Oh yeah.

We have seen John Wick. Yeah, yeah. So there's like the scene and like John Wick too, and like they were all surrounded him. And he was just like looking around like trying to find anything. But they were all attacking him. But like, that's kind of like what you're in. when you're going up against And you're figuring it out

You're figuring it out Just feeling one thing to the next And at first it's fast But then when it slows down Then it's like Then that's when it gets dangerous John Wick or Jason Bourne? John Wick

Have you seen the Jason Bourne? I have I have I have You've seen them all I haven't seen them all That's like an argument But okay that's right okay I can't say that if I haven't seen them all No you can stand on business

I'm John Wick too Yeah whatever you want I'm just saying You're allowed to have your opinion I'm bustling with the boys We're not going to be in a straight fight John Wick is like never lost to me. He actually loses frequently.

He does. He does. He loses frequently and gets a lot of help. But he loses in a way that he looked like he won. Like, oh, hell he is. You know what? That's what he does.

That's what he does. But you got to go back and watch the Jason Born movies. Because he never actually gets his ass beat. There's not one scene. He's like that tactical. He's always one step ahead of the game. John Wick, how many times in those movies, JP, was he just, his ass was saved?

No, he didn't. The last movie he's going up. those damn stairs, he gets his ass kick 17 times and gets his ass saved. It's a great movie, though. It's a great movie. No, he didn't. You talk about, like, things clicking for you. At what point in the season last year were you like, okay,

like, I'm officially finding my speed where I'm just a touch above everybody else? So that first game of the season, I, like, had this touchdown. And when my first touchdown, like, I made this move and broke a couple of tackles. At that point, I was like, like, oh shoot, like, I could do this, like, at a high level.

Fires me in so much. But then the second game, we played the Packers. And, like, I walked on the field and obviously, like, God gifted me with talent and everything. But then it's like, you walk on the field and, like, everything's just slowing down. Like, it's, like, slow motion. And, like, I'm in the huddle. And when I, like, break the huddle, it's, like, I'm backing up and they're, like, moving slow. It's, like, some – it's insane, right?

And so when I when the ball snaps like I'm anticipating everything like quick quick and I mean that was an awesome game but it was just like the and I never even explained this but it was just like the process of like what I was processing during that game and then the rest of the season it was it was something that like I was like man this is this is pretty cool and obviously like you got to watch a lot of film and yeah that's all that film study and everything like that to anticipate everything but actually like feeling it and seen it that fast. It was pretty dope. Last year, like on the outside looking in, I want to say it was maybe the middle of the year, your workload would shift around. Yeah. And I feel like Coach Smith would get questioned about it and wouldn't say too much about anything happening behind the scenes or wouldn't really tip off anything that's going on. Yeah. Is there anything that was happening in the middle of the year to where your workload was shifting or to where you're hearing the same stuff, the external noise and whatever conversations you're having with Coach Smith behind closed doors. Like, you know, people who are curious about what was going down last year, is there any insight

to that? Yeah, so it was more so of me hearing the external noise. And like, you know, fantasy football is a big thing. It's so, like, I had you. So, like, a lot of people had me on their fantasy team. So we would get a lot of heat. Don't check your DMs. I'm just kidding.

But, yeah, like, during the middle of the season, you know, so Coach Smith. was, you know, trying to, you know, make me comfortable in the game and make me comfortable with situations. And, you know, he was just, you know, trying to protect me and do whatever coat, like, because what Coachman didn't want to do was, was Derek Henry me year one, like 28 carries, 25 carries, like, you're taking all this workload year one because he was trying to, like, gradually get me, get me ready to eventually do a lot. all that type of stuff. But probably from all over the field.

You're right. And like at the beginning of the season, like those first five games, like it was, I was rolling. And then like in that middle of the season, it was more so, okay, let's like, let's get them back to like gradually kind of, you know, getting them right. Were you injured? Was there stuff going on towards to, hey, we want to, okay, I know we're picking up your workload.

Like let's kind of maybe mitigate some of the reps in the middle of the year and start to make a run at the end of the year. So yeah, but it was that, but it wasn't like because of injury. And at the same time, like, my workload was becoming excessive. And, you know, I was running go routes. I was motioning. I was doing all types of stuff, running the football, blocking in on third down. And, you know, for me, like, we have Tyler Algeria.

He's the other running back. He's super good. And, you know, we played off of each other really well. and which obviously helped both of us a lot. But, you know, it was more so like doing all those extra things to be the decoy for the defense, you know, because if I go in motion, then that would- Everybody's antennas up. Yeah, then it would shift on the defense and it could open somebody else up.

So, like, that was where his thinking was. And, yeah, you know, my workload wasn't a lot. Like, it would decrease in terms of, like, getting carries and stuff. but he was just trying to, you know, gradually get me right in different situations because obviously, like, towards the end of the season, then it started picking up again, but it was just that, like, the middle point of the season, that's where his mind was at. Now, are you guys talking through this while it's all going down as well? Yeah, like we're all, we were always on the same page.

Yeah. We were always on the same page. Obviously, everybody else didn't agree with it, but we always knew, you know, what the plan was. And he told me what the plan was before the season even started. it and I was perfectly okay with it. And everybody was, but I mean, as you start getting questions from the media and as you start going on social media.

There it is. Yeah. There it is. And then you have fantasy, you know, players, you know, on social media, like, what's going on, what was happening? Like, so it all tied in. But we were always, like, on the set page and then towards the end of the season, that's what everything started to pick back up.

Yeah. When you, when this is all going down and like you're getting this heavy workload and then towards the like the middle lull, everyone's starting to ask questions at any point did you want to be like, hey, this is part of the plan? Did you ever want to speak up for that situation? Or you just kind of had to sit back and let the noise be noise? I just kind of sat back and let the noise be noise. And, you know, yeah, I would get media questions from the media.

And I was kind of tell them like, like you just said like, you know, this is all part of the process, you know, this is all in God's plan, like, which it was like. and just for me just understanding mentally and physically where I was at um but then you know when when when things did start you know picking up then then we saw the end the vision of it but that middle like three four weeks it was like yeah everybody's going on yeah yeah like what's happening and but we we knew the whole time like where we were going with it what kind of jump do you see yourself making going into year two like what are your what are your goals and ask inspirations for Bejohn Robinson. Yeah, I mean, obviously, bro, like to elevate as a teammate.

So I want to be like, I want to leave by example in a way that, you know, everybody will be on the same page, you know, what I'm doing. And, you know, for me, I think it was really good to have, you know, the vets that we did have last year because I learned so much from them. Like, even like Clias Campbell, like, he's ultimate vet. He's got that voice too. He got that voice. Yeah. He would just sit down with me. Like, he sat down with me at the end of the season. And he was like, yo, be like, you can really be the best running back in the NFL for a long time, bro. And he was saying, but you shouldn't go in every day saying that, like, you obviously are very humble, but you should just do it by your work and just show everybody. Because for me, like, I'm big with finishing.

So, like, after a run, I finish all the way to the end zone. Sometimes coaches hate that. But, you know, my coaches, like, are cool. Like, they love it because it shows everybody else, like, that's what we got to do. And, you know, for me, I think just me. you doing that type of stuff in practice and, you know, even just asking questions to other players on what their goals are and where they want to see each other because obviously, I think as a team, you know, we want to win the Super Bowl.

Like, like, but that's what everybody says. Like, everybody's like, we want to win Super Bowl, we're going to Super Bowl. But it's like, what are you going to do, you know, as a team, you know, when nobody's watching. And, you know, I think team dinners, like stuff like that are always a big thing because you build so much chemistry and that's why I appreciate like even Kirk because we be out there you know grinding every single day on offense like trying to just build the most chemistry because obviously we're on the field and that's what what we're trying to do is be great and then for me like yeah obviously I had these goals that I that I set for myself and I set astronomical goals like I think I even

said an interview that I want to get 2,000 yards but like it wasn't me saying that it was just the goal I have to suffer myself because obviously like we have Tyler Algeria like we have you know that one-two punch um and I just want us to just kill the you're not saying it to diminish anything else you're saying like yeah I'm trying to get 2K facts facts so like I didn't take that and roll with that quite a bit yeah yeah with uh you brought up Kirk cousins like what was your reaction when atlanta signed Kirk and how has your relationship grown since you've met him man I mean I was happy man I was happy, you know, just because like, yeah, I mean, I feel like, yeah, he is a top 10 quarterback, but, you know, I think because, you know, with his faith, just how good of a dude

he is to other people, to his teammates, that's why I was excited. Like, I knew he can come in here and, you know, Joe right away with all of us because, you know, I think the cool thing that Terry, obviously Rahim, Arthur Blank, Arthur Smith, what they all did is like they got really talented dudes, but they got really good. dudes at the same time. And obviously he's a good dude. So I think he would come in here and, you know, immediately like Joe with the team. And that's really what he did. And I mean, our relationship is strong already. And, you know, just having talks with him and understand like where his vision is and, you know, where he's coming from and how, you know, he wants

everybody on the offense to, you know, have the best seasons that they've ever had. Like, that's huge for a quarterback coming in. Because obviously, You know, when you're a quarterback, like, you know, you want that like me, me type of glory. But with him, it's like, it's all of us. And we're all going to eat in this office. He's a worker too. He's a worker. He's a worker.

He's a pro, bro. Even at meetings, like, he's telling you exactly how he sees it, how he wants it, how it should be. And, I mean, I've never had that. So, like, having that, and even, like, in practice, like, he'd be like, this is where it should go. This is how I see it. And he hits it there every time. And it's like, this is the game changer right here. God, that's a fire.

You've seen your facial expression too about Kirk. Yeah, it's exciting. You've seen Kirkgo chains yet? Like the chain? Yeah, you've seen it. Is his shoes around? No, no, no. Does he have a chain in his locker?

His alter ego. Does that thing came out yet? Not yet. Save it for the fall. I like that. I can't wait to put a chain on it. Keep that clip in there. You know?

What else do we have for B. I got you. I got one. Hey, the bejean Mustardson, the mustard. Let's talk about the brand. There it is. Of the mustard. Yeah. So the mustard came out like two years ago.

And, you know, it was all from like an idea of two guys, David and Craig, they're the other owners of the mustard too. And they came with this like whole presentation of like what it is going to become, like what it should become. This is before anything. And we're like in a top golf like meeting room. So they came with it. And at first I was like, that's kind of cheesy loki. Like, you know, this is a little weird. But they had like billboards and like murals.

And they had like it selling in stores. And I was like, yeah, this sounds really good. But I mean, I just don't know how it's going to be. So is he going to sell? He's going to sell. Yeah. So the two months later it came out in that summer. and you know it was like a big thing like the PR and everything and people were like

like this dude has his own mustard like that's kind of where it was at first and so people started buying it online and then like a whole bunch of people like we saw we saw order sell from like a little bit to like it just skyrocketed out of the blue and so we like made merch we made all types of stuff and I think the first six months it was out and it was during that football season. It was like the highest selling condomit in the U.S. What? You congrats on that, bro.

It's pretty cool. That's a big game, too. There's some big dogs in that game. Heinz. Heinz. Yeah, some big dogs. You got some big dogs running in the condomit section.

And it's crazy because, you know, even in, like, the grocery stores, like in Austin, obviously we're trying to get it across the country in every grocery store. But, like, every week, you'll go to the grocery store and it's gone. and then you'll have every other condiment still there and they're just like keep reloading it so and it's cool because I mean people like when they get the mustard like they'll like take a picture with it like they're like happy about it

like you don't you're not going to Heinz you know catch up for mustard like they're like they settle for Heinz you know and it's like it's not cool but uh the Heinz family about to be after your asses no no offense they're about to buy it up maybe

They probably will know. If they did, like, obviously that's the end of all, like somebody. You're open for business. We are. We are. Have you done anything creative, marketing-wise, yourself? Outside of, like, marketing plans. Like, right now I'm thinking to myself.

Must was pretty creative. He needs to have the mustard, like, you know, somebody, one of the equipment guys has in a bag, but he has it out on the field. Not out on the field, but on the sideline. And after he scores, it's like he jogs over to the sideline and just takes a shot of the mustard, which that right there is just, I mean. There you go. There's your advertising.

That's such a good. As a water bottle. Yeah, if you have water in just a bottle, you just go right back. It's like Marshawn eating the Skittles. That's a matter of fact. That one's free. We've done like marketing stuff, obviously with like commercials and stuff.

But that one right there, like after a touchdown and like somebody just throw it in the, like throw it from the crowd, like throw it at me. You know, we can do a lot of different things. Where you go to sideline? Yeah, get a couple of them to the fans and let them do it. Let them do it. Bro, keep it under the goalpost. A hot dog and the mustard. A score touchdown, put the mustard on top.

That would probably be a fine. fine though. That's all right. Eat that fine. For sure. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

That's it. You eat that fine. That's nothing. Yeah. That's a long-term play. You could do so. You could do some. Yeah.

That's what we're going to do that. A hundred percent has to have the design of your mustard. And then we have like the mascot. We have the mustard mascot. So like, yeah. So it'll be at all the games. It's me. I want to show you on my phone.

Like, but yeah, he's just at all the games. Like at Falcon's games. Like it's in the stadium. For real. At Texas games. like they're just walking around just and it's a big attraction like it's pretty cool i can't wait for you to negotiate your second contract with arthur blake and your muster was coming you're going to do this is the only condiment you're allowed to have in there and he just sits there and twittles his mustache

and agrees yeah confidently shakes your hand i doubt about it dude um i know we're about to slow this thing down a little bit but nca did you ever play the game i loved it loved it yeah how heartbroken are you that you're not going to ever be at the game at sea very much so just missed that time. He will be. They'll do like a legend. They'll be like a legend. That'd be cool.

That'd be cool. But I'm heartbroken. I bet, dude. Like, I was three years, two years off. Two years off. I hated to bring that up, but it is coming out really soon.

It is. And so when it comes out, you're going to play. July? July, yeah, middle of July. They're like announcing everything, I think next week or something like that. I'm going to be stuck on that game.

You a gamer? I'm a gamer. What's your game? I'm a sports gamer and an actor, dude. There it is. There it is. So, like, I love FIFA. Mm-hmm.

I love, like, I love 2K. Madden I'm okay at, but, like, UFC, like, that's my stuff right there. Okay. So. Would you say you're the best gamer in the locker room? Absolutely not. There's a couple of dudes that are actual, like, real, like, so, like, coo. He's unbelievable at FIFA.

He's unbelievable. He's unbelievable. He can't count kickers. They have more time than everybody else to do what they want. That is, that is true. Yeah. That is true. Even in college,

like the kickers were just like, just way better than me for no reason. And I was like, come on, man. All the games, ping pong. They had it all. Yeah,

we had kickers in college that it was like not their day to kick. So I'd be like walking out to practice and they'd be like, oh, we're going to the movies. Like, God damn it. It was a good worth. They were going to movies.

Yeah, we didn't win a whole lot of games. Dude, Kern and, uh, who was, Ryan? Suck up. Ryan suck up. And Kurn would be breaking down.

Like, we're in meetings. And they'd be breaking down golf courses. They just be planning out golf trips and breaking down golf courses. That's a lovely time. We're going like, we have a break to go to the bathroom and stuff. You kind of go in and you're like, hey, what are you guys in there?

Like, literally breaking. And they got like stapled papers and everything breaking down golf courses. Well, speaking of golf like, who's your favorite golfer? Tiger Woods. All right. I'm just kidding. I don't watch enough. Max Homa.

Okay. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's my number one. He's been on the pod. He's one of the boys. Y'all like, Scottie, Shepler? Sure.

Yeah, just kind of came on. He kind of came on the scene. this year. Texas boy. Yep, big fan of him. Golf? I'm not golf,

but I watch it and I play it on PlayStation. You watch golf? Yeah. For real, you have it on and you're like, you're stuck to the TV

watching golf? I watch it, yeah. I can't get behind that, man. He said, yeah, I play it on PlayStation.

And I play on me, that's kind of why watch it. Dude. Are you, can you hoop? No. All right.

He has a flaw. That's good. Yeah, he has a flaw. Yeah. I wasn't even see her in life. I was going to get, I was going to get him going. Yeah, I mean, we asked Coach Raw this.

Like, who's got the best athletes, NFL or NBA? NFL. Yeah, I think there's no question. Like, no NBA player can play NFL, but no NFL player can play in the NBA. Oh, you're drawing a line down the middle. There's no way to go both. I don't think so.

Do you know who Devin Funches is? Now, JP. Yes, okay, but that's awesome. Like, you have one in a million, like, in a lot of guys. Michigan guy, too. Fucking all nasty about Michigan guys. we are. That's called. That's a callback. Who's the last Michigan great?

Blake Korn. No, I'm talking about an NBA. I mean, I don't watch basketball. I don't watch basketball. I actually, I focus on football. Dude, you're a football guy, all right? Stick to the lane. Let's stick to the lane. No doubt, no, no, no. Offensive line. We got 14 of them in the league. That's more than any other college. That being said, Atlanta Falcons' offensive line.

Talk to me how awesome Jake Matthews is. Is he the longest ten-year Falcon? Yeah, it's him. Is he just, Is it Grady? It is him? Yeah, yeah. Is Jake,

talking to me about Jake's personality. See, like, your classic offense alignment keeps to himself? No, not, not. You's got to, like, when he opens up to you,

like, Jake's my dog. Yeah, that's my dude, man. I mean, obviously all five of them are, I mean, the whole office line room

is like super dope. But, like, when you meet Jake, I mean, when you know Jake, he's just like, the most laid back, chill dude.

I mean, talks about everything, can talk about everything and he's still funny like he still has that funny personality side to him that's my dude man like for a vet like that's the right I want to have

can you do me a favorite we have a segment called tear talk yeah and tier talk is basically a ranking whatever whatever the topic is can you tear talk me your three favorite players on the Atlanta Falcons

okay I feel like that's like a true question you can give an honorable mention it's not a true question you just got to answer it's gonna suck if you want I'll go to hear this I love everybody Start at three

Start at three Start at three If there's an honorable mention Go ahead and throw a few in there if you need to You take a minute too We got we got time Yeah Our bet

But bit bit bit So number three I'm gonna have to say Matthew Bergeron No no no I'm playing Matt That's got to be tough Brother

He's got to be tough watching this back He'll be higher Okay I'm gonna say Zach Harrison Number three Matthew Bergeron number two and then

Tyler Alger number one No honorable mention honorable mention The rest of the team The rest of the two I'm gonna say Liam

He's our longsnapper That's a fire dude A fire dude Or Jesse Bakes I find it very interesting Jake Matthews did not make that after talking so nice about Jake. But Jake Matthews would make that, though. Yeah.

So you're a team guy, man. You're a lot of team guy. I am. I am like, I'm close to everybody. How about your top three running backs in the NFL right now? And if you could, give a little synopsis on what makes them great. All right.

Then I'm, well, my first one. Number one is Chris McCaffrey. Just because, like, you know, his stop and start is incredible. And, you know, I watch this game so much. Like, I compare my game. Everybody gave to his just the most because I feel like we do the most similar stuff. So I'm going to say him.

And then I'm going to say Breach Hall is the other one. Okay. Just because like his patience, how he, you know, invades, breaking tackles, how he still has that long speed. He's the other one. And then my third, I'm going to have to go with, I'm going to go with probably Sequin. Seguan. I mean, yeah, I know his situation has been tough,

but, like, I think just Raw, just gift of talent for a running back, I think he got that. And his, like, lateral movement, how he can bend and make cuts still, like, of how big he is. Like, I think he's the other one. So it's a solid list.

That's a good list. I want to say those three. That's a good list. Put myself in there. The boy, the end. I know. I was thinking that, too. But I didn't want to be such a home.

Henry. See. actually i mean him and his prime like you know he's he's he's hall of famer yeah he's he's all famer yeah most definitely he got two k yeah he did behind this offensive line i told my i see all that year let's go five games what's up i'll take that come on i do take credit for that though who's y'all who's y'all's top three um just podcasters yeah matter of fric yeah top three top three top three podcast The top three podcasters?

Rogan's one. Yeah, Rogan's one. But what makes him the one, like... His ultimate curiosity. He's so present and his ability to be so curious about the subject at hand. Okay. And be able to break that down and have information about it is, I think that's a one-of-one talent. In his range.

I mean, he can literally have... Crazy range. Anybody on. And he does his prep work. He broke our own rule. What was that? I was supposed to go three first. But Rogan is all.

He's gone to here. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Rogan. God. What about full saying? Like,

is that my Nog boys? No boys, yeah. Those are my dogs. Those guys are awesome. I don't know about like, what's the category that we're talking about

when it comes to a podcast? Like, okay. Just whatever they. Oh, I'm talking about, there's like so many podcasts and the Nuck Boys have a massive audience. They do a great job

and their content is amazing. Gotcha. But are we talking about their interviews, how they approach the interview, those types of things. Because then I think it does change a little bit because their audience is insane. Okay.

And those guys, they are good dudes. Then I would say just like interviews. Interviews. Just be the interview. I would say, Dach Shepherd. I heard of him. Okay.

Armchair quarterback. Yep. He's our armchair expert. He's really good. Okay. Man, who I found myself listening to a lot? I mean, Theo Vaughn's up there.

Theo. I find myself going to his. He's so funny. And I feel like he's. He's developed over time too. He's a lot more comedy in the start because obviously he's a comedian. Yeah.

But I feel like he's starting to get, he's starting to create a range and a variety for himself where he's handling himself well on all these conversations. I like that. I like, isn't he like in Atlanta? No, he's in Nashville. Yeah, Nashville.

I think he's supposed to sign between Nashville, maybe L.A. I'm not sure. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know he's got to be in Nashville. He was doing the pod with shop, right? For a minute. Yeah, King of Sting.

Yep. But yeah, we're doing that. That's a solid three. You got Rogan, Theo Vaughn, and Armchair Expert or Jack Shepherd. Yeah, I'll co-sign that. I've never seen Theil Armature Expert one time, but I'll co-sign it. What's another?

I'm trying to think, because... Sholes has a really good one, yeah. But I've seen his clips. I've never really watched the show. I think he's really good. Yeah, it's hard. I don't know. There's something, maybe.

I don't digest a whole lot. I mean... And that's based on, like, what I listen to. Like, we can't, we can't not talk about the boys. might take PMT. They're like the number one sports pod. Okay. They have been for a long time.

Kelsey brothers have a great pod. That's a good one. Yeah, they're massive. Spenticle's all bars. Everybody at Barcelona listen, all the barso pots. Yeah, PMT probably is like they would probably be up there with Rogan. They probably be two.

Yeah, I mean, as far as consistency and being at the top for as long as they have. The ability to play off each other and having the same sense of humor. Like they do a great job. Nope. Yeah, but that's, there you go. There's your top.

Whatever. 26 right there. We just did it to you. That was a good deal. Top 26. Who's your top left tackles? Okay. My top left tackles?

Trent Williams is one. Easy. Above and beyond. He a dog, man. The best one. He is the best one. I wish I had a list to look at. Because I'm trying to go through them.

It's okay. I mean, we still got Jake. Rams. No. No. Jake. I think Seattle, so that's West. Tunsel's probably in there, yeah.

I'm just trying to run through it all because, like, I think Jake's great. I think... Who's Houston? Tunsel. Houston is Tunsel. Okay, that's awesome. He's nasty.

Who's... Saints? They got nobody. Well, no disrespect. I'm just trying to think of names. Yeah, let me do... I'll do Trent, Tunsel.

Let me get Dian. Dawkins for three. Honorable mention to our boy, Jake Matthews. I still hold a lot of animosity towards him. When we're the same draft class. Yeah, getting the good. Get the guy. Yeah, we were sitting like in a room outside of Radio City and we kind of like started talking because we were both doing the, you know, top tackles in the drive, like kind of sizing each other up a little bit, but like being respectful at the same time, kind of both doing the uncomfortable thing together. And so I was like, hey, what do you want to go? And he's like, honestly, he kind of looks around as if somebody's actually listening to us for tackles. He's like, Atlanta would be sick. I was like,

dude, same. And then that Monday before the draft, Atlanta flew to me. They're like, if you're there at six, be ready. And I'm like, I'll be there. I will be there. So six comes around. Six comes around and I'm like fired up. And the phone starts ringing on Jake Matthews

table. And he's like two tables away from me too. And his family starts celebrating. I was so fucking Matthew. I was so tight because that's where I wanted to go. I was like ATL sick, flower branch. I came down here, checked it out. No doubt. The Arthur Blank was kind of dope too. Fire. It seemed like He was killed a couple guys, not himself personally.

I made the correct phone calls to get things done. And I respect that if you're able to get away with that. And so for me, I was like, yeah, that'd be kind of sick. And then Titans called me and I was mad about that because they had two tackles. I was mad as hell about it. Wait, so you're with Arthur Smith. Oh, yeah. That's our guy.

He was one of the boys, man. He was a quality control guy at the Titans when I first got there. Yeah. We would do these pursuit drills where they would like hold up balls in the corner of the end zones and we were just run and try to punch the ball out. and I would literally beat the shit out of my sister. I would run up, I would tackle him to the ground and start punching the ball.

Bro, the thing I love about him, though, is like, yeah, obviously he's a great coach and, like, we built a relationship, but, like, bro,

his dark comedy, bro, hilarious, like, like, if you're, if you're, like,

if you're like a, a whisper, like, something like that, bro, you can't handle, like, co-Smith,

because, like, he'll joke with you, and it's hilarious. He's hilarious. He's hilarious, quick, quick, quick,

it's hilarious. bro. Like he's got good group chat humor as well. He does. He does. Oh my gosh. Like, right, he put us in a group chat, some of us, uh, office players and just send the most like crazy things, but like it was so funny. It was so funny. And I mean, that, that's like, man, he can definitely like build a relationship with like any player, just off his comedy. Yeah. I mean, that dude was hilarious, bro.

I love that. You just added one more, though. Top three coaches you've ever had. top three coaches this has been a fun transition I guess yeah um like ever in my life

yeah all right well number one I'm going to go with my high school coach coach Bonae Dennis Bonae he's kind of like coach Smith

just off like like he's very he's like the greatest coach in Arizona like history high school coach Charlie Raigle but yeah go ahead all right just arguing about

whatever but you know even even just him like developing like help develop me me to become like a respectable man and just like be a great kid he was that guy but then

number two I'm gonna have to go ahead coach choice that's a charred choice he was my coach at Texas running back coach at Texas I mean like his energy is like awesome like I mean

he brought it every day, every day. And then, watch, I bet at the end of all this, like, Rahim's going to be my number one. But I'm going to say, he's already, like, down there up there, real. Like, Rahim is. Yeah, he's fun to be around, bro. I had it for a month, and he's already, like, that guy. I mean, just his presence.

And, like, obviously, like, he's going to coach you, like, and get everything out of you. But he's going to do it with you. Like, you'd be seeing him on the field, like, in drills, like, in the drill. And I'm like, I just never had a coach like that before. That's awesome. And then even my coach, Petrie, he's, I guess he'd be like my number three. And he's my running back coach now. And, like, my dog for life.

Love that. For life. No doubt. I hear, I got a, I have a question. People would assume that a cat like yourself, five-star recruit, best, you know, drafted top 10. you're the man even currently that somebody like you wouldn't have

faced a lot of adversity what are one of the more trying times you've had in your career as a football player yeah I mean well I face a lot for me I think I faced a lot of adversity just going to Texas and not having a winning team

like when we lose like a lot of it would be on on me and you know like we would go eight and five, and then it would be like nine and four or something like that. Like that's a bad season like at Texas. And for me being like the leader of the team, like who people watch, like, you know, it was, it was, it was hard.

And sometimes I would catch myself like going to Twitter and seeing what people would say. Type in your name. Type in your name. It's the worst. And you know you shouldn't too. You know you shouldn't. I'm like, I should not be doing this. But like, and I'm glad I'm glad.

I did it then because obviously they tripled out and now I don't care like I don't care of people think but like then it was like all right what's happening like what did I do what's the the small mess up that I did to make this lost I kind of had a nice game let's see what people you yeah yeah yeah like Dan they lost but I had a nice game but I still want to see like what's it so it's like all that kind of stuff was was a learning lesson for me but it would be like more adversity of like trying to get teammates on the same page as you. And sometimes, like, teammates went to the school because of just the name. Like, they weren't invested in the play.

Like, they just went because they want to go to frat parties and say, oh, I'm a football player. Like, that's all. And I was like, that's cool. But I don't think you're really getting none out of it by doing that. Like, wouldn't you want to be a great player? didn't do it. Like, I just didn't know where,

where their minds were. Priorities are messed up. Yeah, they're messed up. Backwards. Yep. And then even, you know, even here, like, man, this team is so tight. Like, we're so close.

And, like, just some of those heartbreaking losses from last year, like, it was, you know, really hard because obviously, like, those are the ones that you want and those are the wins that you want. But, you know, with the NFL, like, we would put ourselves in

some situations where it was just hard to come out of from some of those games and then it would end up in a two-point loss, three-point loss, and it's just like, we know if we won that game, like, we would be, like, easily in the playoffs. But it's like those little things that I had to learn from and come over

because I think, you know, God plans everything. You know, you have a setback for huge setups for everything. So, like, that's where the setup really is. And that's where we're right now. And I feel like where we're at now is where the setup is happening. Yeah. Man, we appreciate you coming on.

Yeah, bro. You can tell that you love ball. Like, you love being a good teammate. You care, which is going to take you a long way. Like, you know, there's, you've probably seen it already. There's just guys in the league that, you know, they don't take losses hard. They don't see it that way. They don't come in the next day at work.

And you're just like, man, why don't you care about this the same way? I feel like I'm caring about this. No doubt. No doubt. But you can tell you love ball, man. And we appreciate you coming on. Man, thanks for having me, man. This is fire.

This is awesome, man. We do appreciate it. No doubt. Hey, the mustard move. Hey, I'm going to send y'all, I'm going a hell of mustard though. Yes, do it, do it. I'm like a care package.

And I'll show you the technique and everything. Please do. Now, there is a video. There's videos of dudes just like going crazy with it. I'm telling you. I'm like, that's insane. I'll never do that. After touchdown, you will.

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