Bussin' With The Boys - Bo Jackson On Being The Greatest Athlete Of All Time + His Prostate Cancer Story | Bussin'

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Taylor Lewan and Will Compton are back with a BONUS episode of Bussin' With The Boys! The Boys sit down with arguably the greatest athlete of all time, Bo Jackson. Bo opens up about his recent prostat...e cancer diagnosis and surgery, why men need to stop being afraid to talk about their health, and his mission to use his platform to educate men on colon and prostate cancer. Bo also takes us back to his legendary career, the REAL 4.13 forty story, why Alabama's recruiting pitch sent him straight to Auburn, the iconic Bo vs. Bosworth Monday Night Football game, and the 91-yard run through the tunnel in Seattle. Bo talks about what life looks like now at 63, watching his grandkids mimic Aaron Judge, and what he'd give anything for. This one hits different.   Please like, subscribe, and as always... Big Hugs, and Tiny Kisses!   TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 0:42 Will's Intro + Spring Tour Announcement 3:29 Bo Jackson Interview Starts 3:49 Bo's Super Bowl Week Schedule 4:17 Bo's Mental Health Platform 6:00 Why Men Don't Talk About Health Issues 9:06 Bo's Vision For Health Podcast 10:33 Bo Had His Prostate Removed In October 11:16 Why Bo Chose Surgery Over Treatment 12:46 Prostate Issues In Younger Men 14:25 Chadwick Boseman & The Importance Of Not Ignoring Symptoms 15:16 Bo's Message To Men 17:09 Bo On His True Purpose In Life 18:26 Bo Called All His Old Teammates After His Diagnosis 21:09 Bo's Mission To Touch Millions 21:28 The Legendary 4.13 Forty-Yard Dash Story 26:30 Bo's Reaction To NFL Combine Records 27:49 Why Bo Went To Auburn Instead Of Alabama 30:14 Bo's Freshman Year At Auburn 31:06 Bo's Mental Approach 31:55 Was Bo A Shit Talker On The Field? 32:32 Will There Ever Be Another Dual-Sport Athlete? 33:32 Bo vs. Bosworth 37:19 The 91-Yard Touchdown Run  38:37 Did Bosworth Say Anything After The Game? 39:30 Bo's Relationship With Terry Robiskie 40:47 Bo vs. Deion Sanders 41:27 Bo Wants Deion On His Podcast 43:07 The Bud Light Question See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:30 with the one and only Bo Jackson. Another episode of Bustin with the Boys, we have a legend. Some worlds, arguably, it's a debate. In our world, it's not a debate, the greatest athlete of all time. Bo Jackson. Bo Jackson on Bustin with the boys.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Hello, hello, hello. This camera guy didn't clap. It's okay though. He did not. He's like, I don't only care. I'm just giving my hard time. But hey, you sounds like you've been through the ringer a little bit. You walked in here.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You're like, man. This is the second day. Second day? Nonstop. Nonstop. All day. Balls to the wall. What has been on your schedule the last few days?
Starting point is 00:06:06 And if you don't mind, what has been on my schedule? If you look at my hat, that BK. Yeah. Burger King. That in hell no. What need it if you pay me? This is bow nose men's hell. You're starting your own pod.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I'm starting my own podcast. And 90% of the country would say, oh, it's going to be another sports podcast. Nah. Been there, done that, know how to do that. This is on men's health. For the simple reason, and I say this, you guys are young,
Starting point is 00:06:38 but I'll give you four or five years from now. You're going to be going to get your prostate check and doing all this, and so forth and so on, and they're going to get to the point to where you're up three, four times a night, going to take a leak. That's what happens when you get old.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. So that's what you got for it. That's what you've got to look forward to. Me, myself, I want to use my platform, my name, my reputation to promote bow nose men's self. Because what we do as men, well, I'm going to ask you this question. And that's for both of you. What's the first thing coming to your mind?
Starting point is 00:07:20 if your doctor come out and told you you got prostate cancer how much time do I have lost yeah probably it would like number one or he says that you're in the beginning stages of prostate cancer
Starting point is 00:07:34 it's not but it's not bad but you have to have your you got to have your prostate taken out and then you research it and look at everything and the thing that you do well probably
Starting point is 00:07:49 genetics, because you go back and look at your great-grandfather, your grandfather, your dad, your uncles, find out that, find out like that. But the thing about it, most men think, show you how small our minds are as men, because we're all like this. We all have this fault. Is that the doctor come and tell you, hey, you're in the beginning stage of prostate cancer. You can either treat it or take it out. Most guys without thinking is going to say let's try to treat it. Because if you know what your prostate do, it controls everything that you do as far as sex, everything, sperm produced, all of that, erections, and so forth and so on.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So we're going to think, oh, shit, that goes my sex life. That goes my sex life. I'll be on EED drugs for the rest of my life. That's how the small part of our mind thinks. Right. And so instead of thinking like this. I need to get that taken out so I can spend time with my family
Starting point is 00:08:58 with my kids I want to be around so I can hear the word Papa. I want to go to Papa's house Papa want to take some fishing and so forth and so on. Well, I'm at that state and not only that, colon cancer prostate cancer runs into my family.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So I was going to get it regardless of how many football I football games I played how many touchdowns, how many home runs I hit, period. But we as men, we never talk about that. When the last time you sit around with your guys
Starting point is 00:09:33 after either hunting or fishing or golfing and say, man, you know, last night, shit, I was up four or five times, because my prostate won't let me sleep. We don't talk about that. Or if you did it, we're sitting here laughing, joking.
Starting point is 00:09:50 because you don't take it serious. Right. But if you're serious about it, and so we don't talk about it because we don't want our buddies or the public to lick at us as not being strong. Or we got a cheek in our arm.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And we're not that alpha male that everybody perceives me as because we're weak. That's not the case. If you ask your girlfriends, your wives, your mom's, aunt, they go to lunch.
Starting point is 00:10:20 and order wine and dip and talk about all their issues. They talk about breast cancer. They talk about incontinence. They talk about menopause. They talk about everything. But we as men, we don't talk about that because it's taboo. I want to use my platform to peel the layers off of that onion. So we can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I want to set up my podcast. to where I could take it on the road and travel and go into different cities. Get one of my buddies that I played with or played against either in the NFL or the Major League Baseball. Have them to get his personal doctors. Get your cardiologist, your gastroenterologist, get your, who else, your orthopedic surge. Get all your doctors. your urologist, proctologist, sitting on the stage with you
Starting point is 00:11:23 and tell them, look, we're going to have you here to talk to this crowd of men, to talk to this big audience. And what we want from you, we will advertise you in your business, in your clinic or your hospital.
Starting point is 00:11:38 But what you got to give us is that you got to help take care of these gentlemen out here who can't afford to pay for a PSA test. because somebody may not have the insurance that we have. We got to get the audience to attend, and if they attend, it'll cost them from anywhere from one to ten bucks.
Starting point is 00:11:58 No more than that. And that money stays in a fund for that area to help pay for their PSA, to help pay for their colonoscopies, and make it easier for guys to sit around and talk. Instead of just talking about the football game and talk about this, let's take a page from the women's book. their playbook. Let's sit down and go to dinner and talk about our problem.
Starting point is 00:12:22 How many times have you watched TV or you're on your computer and an ED commercial comes up? Damn near, every time you turn it on, right? But we don't talk about that. I had my prostate taken up in October. This past October? This past October, I had my prostate taken up. I never for once set up and said,
Starting point is 00:12:44 oh, nope, I don't want to do it. I'm just going to ruin my sex life. It's going to do this or do that. The first thing I thought about was my family. Wife, kids, grandkids. Why should I be selfish and cheat them out of the future? Right. I said, get that taken out.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Get it out of me so I won't be looking over my shoulder. Because if you decide to treat it with radiation, there's a 99% chance that's going to come back. It may not come back within one or two years. But five, six years down the road, it's going to read its head again. And when it does, it's going to have gone from your prostate to your bones, your bones to your lungs or liver, then to your brain. And that's over. And so I buried my brother-in-law just two weeks ago because it happened in that order.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Really? Yeah. It's interesting about prostate as well, too, because it seemed like men over 40, right? That's when you get the prostate exam, they get the two fingers up there and they do the thing. fingers, get the PSA test done where they draw blood, and that's a real and that's a real, and that's a real way to check your PSA. Yeah. Go get
Starting point is 00:13:57 the blood work done, they send it off. And then they combine your numbers from your PSA test with what they call your Gleason score. Okay. Now, I don't know what the hell the Gleason score is because I'm not a doctor. Totally fair. But it combines both of them. And if it's in the high six or seven or above, you need to get something done.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Get something figured out. It's so interesting because like the prostate is something like he's 36, I'm 34. And they're like it's 40, right? Is that when they say you should get your prostate? But they say 40. But if it runs in your family, you probably need to get a check bed for 40. Just to be on the safe side. That's the thing that's going on right now is it seems like rates in younger men are having prostate issues sooner than the age of 40.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And so we sit here and we hear the number of 40, 40, 40. kind of wait till then. I had a guy that I put within high school and in college and he was the healthiest one of all of us. He passed away a couple years ago because of prostate cancer. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Same age as, same ages. He's like, what, 32 at the time? Well, check out this. When I was 20 years old, I'm in the prime of my life. I could whip King Kong's ass. Buddy, I was watching film before you walked in.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And the thing about it, I woke up one morning, went to the bathroom, used the bathroom, I'm getting ready for class. This is on a Friday. We had a game. on Saturday. I get up, go to the bathroom, get up to flush the store, there's blood in the
Starting point is 00:15:21 stool. Oh shit, scared the hell out of me. Go tell the trainer, tell the head trainer, he said, all right, well, I'm going to call the doctor, we're going to sit up something. And you all right now, we're going to play the game tomorrow after the game tomorrow, but I'm going to give you this packet. This is Matt. It's not what you mix it with, a gallon of water and drink it. And drink it all. Give me two gallons. You can't have anything to eat after noon. So from noon on, I'd start myself and drink this crappy stuff. And it flushed me out. Blew the toilet up from 4 o'clock that evening until the next morning when I went to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah. I got liquid, clear liquid coming out of me. And they do my first colonoscopy. They find a polyp that was benign. And if you know the story behind Chadwick Boseman, the Black Panther actor, he passed away at 43 from colon cancer. nobody knew. He kept a secret way to pass away from colon cancer. So if I had it ignored, like we all do as young,
Starting point is 00:16:25 young guys who think we, that we are invincible. Invincible. We know everything. If I just said, oh, that's probably nothing. So I'm not going to bother. I wouldn't be here right now. And since then, I guarantee you that I've had at least 15 colon after. I just had one last month.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. And I get one now because I'm 63. I get one every three years. Really? Because in 10 years, you can grow a camelope inside of you and don't even know it. And don't even know it. And don't even. So that's why I'm using my, that's why I'm using my platform to help educate men.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Because we do, women educate each other because they sit down and talk about it. We don't do that because we're too narrow-minded. And we're thinking, oh, I don't want somebody talking about me or laughing at me. I want friends talking about me. Oh, I can't get it up. Trust me, guys, I'm talking from proof. I've been down the road. Because the first thing, guys think is that there goes my sex life.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I can't get a hard on anymore. They got shit out there now that'll make Viagra look like a chump. but and the thing about it but and I say that in a laughing matter but that shouldn't be the first thing you think about or the second or third it should be for me it was I have a four-year-old grandson and a two-year-old grandson and it's the best gift of God has ever given me and I want to be around and watch them playing their first little league baseball game they're soccer their taekone dough classes that's what I want to be around for my grandson just hit me a pitcher yesterday he got an acceptance letter. Now, he's four. He's got an acceptance letter
Starting point is 00:18:16 to go to kindergarten at the big school where all the big kids go. And he, and he's happy, like he just got a full ride at Harvard or Yale somewhere. Yeah. But that's what makes me happy now. Sports, I haven't attended a football game or Super Bowl since Troy Aikman and the Dallas Cowboys won their second Super Bowl with Troy Akeman. And the only reason I'm here is to get this out to the public Because I figure Hey, there's no better time
Starting point is 00:18:48 Than to do this now Because it's a Super Bowl Everybody watch it But hell 90% of the viewers Are men Right And there's a good time to let the country know That hey, it's okay to talk about this
Starting point is 00:19:05 Right Don't sit up and keep it balled up inside Because as they say pressure will bust a pipe. If enough pressure builds up, it'll bust a pipe. And for me, I don't think I was put on this earth to be one of the greatest football players or baseball players. I was put on this earth to share messages like this, period. It's not about the fame. I'm over that. This is the first, this is the first public thing that I've done since I got a professional sports. And to come out, and let people know something personal like that,
Starting point is 00:19:42 just about me, that should tell you, hey, if this guy can do this and we seldomly see him or hear him, it should be easy for everybody else to say, hey, I'm having prostate issues, I'm having colon issues. I'm having, I feel a lump in my chest. We don't call it breasts, but, Men have breast cancer. Period.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Men have breast cancer. And I didn't know that until a couple years ago. But to let guys know, hey, there's an avenue for you to sit and talk about it. This is a conversation for just you and your doctor. This is for you to spread with your friends. When I find out about my prostate, I call all my buddies from high school, college, everybody on the baseball team. We got on a Zoom call. And half of my teammates already having prostate issues or I've had their prostate
Starting point is 00:20:45 removed. But nobody knew. Talk to my teammates from the pros from baseball and football, told them the same thing. Because it needs to be known. I think it's powerful too because, again, it's like Bo Jackson. Everybody who has this idea of Bo Jackson, do you ever, I assume you do because you talked about being over fame? It's got to just be exhausting knowing that everything that you've done on both the diamond and the football field, that's what people always want to talk to you about?
Starting point is 00:21:17 I hope now when people want to talk, they want to talk about these issues. Do you ever enjoy reliving or talking about old, you know, old memories and everything that you accomplished on the field? Only when people ask me about them and fireside chats, so forth and so on. Now, my grandson I was going to say, I'll talk to him about it. Yeah. And they make me watch my highlights,
Starting point is 00:21:41 which I hate, because I've seen them a hundred zillion times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They want to watch them over and over. They don't want to watch them one time. You broke a bat over your leg? My grandsons can mimic me,
Starting point is 00:21:51 can mimic me in all my highlights. Really? They get the ball, break the bat over their head, that's got over their knees. That's got to put a smile on your face. Throw out Hauer rolls. Then they imitate Herald,
Starting point is 00:22:02 sitting on the ground, throwing his helmet. Yeah. They do all of that, and they're two and four years. Is there a highlight of theirs or that is like their favorite? Believe it or not, it's not of me. Really? Guess who it's up.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Wilcompton. It's an Aaron judge. When he hit his record-breaking home run, and he went around the bases, he's waving, then he went to the fence and waved to his family up in his stance, my grandson can mimic him to a T. You'll hit the ball first. Take out, he's go around the base then. He'll do that little Aaron Judge dance.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, yeah. He'll go at home play. And he runs over to the wall, to the curtains. And he's waving to Aaron Judge's parents. And he come back then he said, Papa, I don't want them boys to pour water on my head. Yeah. Because his teammates come out with the water and dash on.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. He likes everything but the water poured on his head. Fair enough. So that's what I enjoy doing now. Yeah. And if I can reach out and touch one person, I figured that I've done my job but I plan on reaching out to me
Starting point is 00:23:08 I plan on touching millions because we all need this absolutely one store one store one tail lore it's rumored it's out it's people talk about it like you're you know you're in the Old Testament times
Starting point is 00:23:22 and you just got to gather around and you listen to grandpa tell a story about one time a Bo Jackson ran a what was it a 4.1.140 like I've got to and that's true true as we're sitting there Rain the 4-13, ran out of the stadium.
Starting point is 00:23:37 This was at a combine at the time. Okay. But combines back then was where the people at the combine, they would come to your college and invite all the colleges, the athletes from 100, 200 miles away. We had it at Auburn, because that year I was going to be first-round draft pick. And I didn't go to some big combine at the Superdome or wherever. Because if you're the first-round draft pick,
Starting point is 00:24:03 If you know you're going to be number one, you don't have to go to come by. And I was on the track team. I was on my way to track practice. My job in track practice, my track coach said, if you can catch Harvey Glance, you don't have to track practice. Harvey Glant won the gold medal. He was the fastest man in the world. Auburn graduate in 1976. So it's 82.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So he's at least nine, ten years older than me. and I never caught him. Coach said, if you catch Harvey, you don't have to track practice. And I chase him every day. Couldn't catch him. So it was like an 18-wheeler
Starting point is 00:24:44 chasing a Ferrari. Yeah. And I never caught his ass. But I was on my way to track practice and everybody had to come by and sit up in our indoor practice facility. It was about 60 yards long. And they had it sit up with electronic tape
Starting point is 00:25:03 on the ground, a laser light down. the end but they only had about from here to the wall in that room stopping this so they told me to ring they they told me to run and my coach said beau please come in and run for these guys they are here because they want to get your 40 all these other kids are here because they're trying to make it to where you are just come running the 40 because I'm tired of these people calling my fucking phone you was just over the entire process so you're hanging out you're at track practice and your coach is just bugging you by but I'm on my way to track
Starting point is 00:25:34 practice right so I had to to pass the facility where they were getting ready to sit up for a thing. So I said, all right, I went in, and I saw where they were. And I got up and I got down and took off. And I stayed from here to the finish line, which is to the wall. Yeah. I let up. Cruise through, ran a 4-2-6.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And the guys with the, the, the line said, he slowed up five yards. He slowed up five yards from the thing. So the coach at both, please run through the fucking. can tape so I can get these guys out of my head. Yeah. Because I don't want them calling my fault. They pissing my wife off. They waking up all time of night, six in the morning.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Because they're trying to wonder where the fuck you are. Please do it for me. If you love me, run the fucking 40 and run through the tape. Yeah. I said, I'm not going to run. I said, because if I try to stop, I'm going to tear something up. He said, well, we'll open the fucking door. And that door had been open since I've been at Auburn. I was just four years.
Starting point is 00:26:35 that door and they cleared all the crap back and they opened that back door and I went and got down and I told my guy, my teammate on the track who was a high jumper I said, well you get my bag and just going to start walking towards the track because when I break this tape here
Starting point is 00:26:52 and run this I'm going to keep going to the track and I got down and pow out the blocks and everybody had stop watches and the electronic tape was by itself so everybody that had stopwatch, had me under 4-1.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Electroint, some guys had had, had, some guys had me at 3-9, 3-9-5, 4-1 in the tape set. When I crossed the laser line, it was flashing. 4-1-3. And I kept going. So when did you find out that you ran a 4-1-3? Because clearly you did, you did a train of practice. They came up to the track practice. He said, hey, what do you think you're running?
Starting point is 00:27:40 What do you think you ran? I said, I don't know. They say, you ran a 4-1-3. I said, all right. And they said, all right, they said, ain't nobody ever run a fucking 4-1-4-1-3. And you say it's all right. And I said something to the fact, look,
Starting point is 00:27:59 I got bigger Fisher-Refried, like trying to catch this motherfucker over here. I'm trying to not do track practice. Is all you're thinking about? I'm trying to get out of track practice, but that never happened. But the 413 story is true. It's factual.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So when you see it at the Combine, and for the long time, it was Chris Johnson, right? He was 429, and then the cat that went to Cincinnati. I'm forgetting his name. He was... John Ross.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, he broke that. You're watching everybody argue on the NFL network about, oh, the fastest 40 time, and you're sitting there just with your grandkids, like, these guys don't even know that... Well, I'm sad. I said, sit, no saying.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Well, I didn't say it, but the arrogant side of me, the young side of me, the 21-year-old side of me, would have said, shit, he's still looking at the bottom of my cleats because he's crossing fenn's eye and I'm down now slowing down. So I didn't cross it. That goes kind of hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I would have said. But, but, no, I tip my hat to the young man for running.
Starting point is 00:29:02 A four-two-six? Yeah, yeah. I took my hat to him. But I know what I did. I wish somebody from that that was there at that combine, they probably were dead. But I wish that they would come out and say, hey, I was there when he ran the 413.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah. And no one ever came out and said anything? I don't know who they are because I didn't care. Because I was on my, because I told I had bigger fish to fry. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably the first made in history to be the number one. overall pick and sit there and be like yeah I don't care about that I have to go to track practice I got to go to
Starting point is 00:29:38 track practice yeah that we were at a radio road today and we were walking around doing a little bit of media here and there and I heard a story about you how when you're growing up you wanted to go to the university of Alabama yeah and your visit to Alabama is why you went to Auburn the coach came to my house to visit with me and my mom and we were expecting coach Bryant to come up and he told me Coach Bryant had a family emergency here they go to him to. So they sent the defense coordinator, Ken Donahue. And I just come in from a baseball game, and I come through the front door. I walk in, I see my mom sitting at the dining table, this old white guy.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I speak, go downstairs, do my laundry, get my baseball uniform out to watch it like we do, because I got a game the next day. He comes down, he said, Vincent, they call me Vincent. Vincent, my name's Coach Ken Donahue. I'm the defensive coordinator at the University of Alabama. First of all, I want to apologize because Coach Bryant couldn't make it, because he had a family emergency. He had to go 10 to him.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He said, but I want to tell you that we would love to have you in Tuscaloosa. We think you'll fit in great. We'll think you'll be successful. But my honest opinion is that I don't think you'll get a chance to play until the end of your sophomore, the beginning of your junior season. And we know the only other place you want to go to that you are looking at is Auburn because you want to stay close to home
Starting point is 00:31:10 so your family can come see you play. Then he said this young man, let me tell you something about Auburn. I said, he said, Auburn hasn't beat Alabama since 1972. This was 1882. And then he said, and they never will. so I shook his hand
Starting point is 00:31:31 like because he said Vincent I'm gonna go back upstairs and talk to your mother so he shook my hand and I'm smiling but inside I'm saying to myself
Starting point is 00:31:41 you gotta be a fucking fool if you think I'm gonna come to your universe and ride the bench for two fucking years and not play he's still got a strong grip he's got a strong grip
Starting point is 00:31:51 he put his hand around and as he's reliving and as he relives it getting tighter and tighter I'm like god damn but that's what I'm saying to myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And I remember his last words, and they never will. And my freshman year, Auburn signed 11 running backs. They signed the number one runner back in the state. It's insane. And I wasn't, and I think I was the fifth top running back that they claim I was. But they let me in the game one time. And I say this to all kids, who is competing in sports. If you go out for a position
Starting point is 00:32:28 somebody's in front of you, you should have one goal on your mind is to take his job. I don't care who he is. It's a take his job. And I told him, you put me in the game, I'm going to make it hard as hell
Starting point is 00:32:42 for you to ever want to take me out. And that's what I live by. And I got in the game the second possession, first quarter against Wake Forest my freshman year. I lit them up like a Christmas And I've been doing that.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And not saying that from a bragging standpoint, but I try to teach young kids to a day. You should have one goal is to make it to the top and stay there. I said my mental aspect of the game was, when I stepped across that white line on the football field to go on the football field or step across that white line on the baseball field. In my mind, I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet. ain't no dog is bigger than me on the field
Starting point is 00:33:31 or badder than me that's it that's the way I live my life in sports not saying it's about me but this dog is going to make it to where my all my teammates my other dog can run around the ballpark because I'm going to make sure that I'm the baddest dog in the park
Starting point is 00:33:49 kind of going right now how were you on the field were you like internally as the baddest dog on the field were you sitting there and just kind of quiet keep to yourself or you're a shit to Quiet before the storm. Yeah. Quiet before the storm.
Starting point is 00:34:03 What about the storm? What about when the storm's happening? What about other dogs are barking? When the other dogs are barking? Let them bark. Yeah, people walk up, Beau. A bark ain't never, bark has never harmed anybody. What if they try to bite you?
Starting point is 00:34:19 My bite's bigger. So you were unfazed by the shit talk? No. Someone walked up to you, Bo, you're a bitch. You're not going to do anything today. speak with my actions. Dude, kind of scared now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I'm kind of nervous right now. We're sitting with Bo Jackson. You can imagine that type of swagger confidence that this player would have, especially when they're like a dual sport athlete. Yeah. Do we feel like there's ever going to be a dual sport athlete again?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Like in your mind, as you sit back and see guys specialize? Not for football, baseball. Not for football, football, baseball. If you try to do both, You're going to be mediocre in both. You'll never be a star at both positions. What made it to where you were a pro-bowler and an all-star in both of those sports?
Starting point is 00:35:11 The heart of the fight. Was it hard to juggle both? No. No. See, here's a problem, Will. Let me just tell you something right now. We brought Bo back to that mindset right now. And now he's just thinking to himself, I don't know to say a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I have my actions that are speaking right now. We've lost him. We've lost him to the darkness right now, so we've lost. We, but I'll tell you one short, then I'm going to let you fellas go. Go to Tyrus when, Monday night, Monday night football, Raiders against Seattle. My college roommate who blocked for me for four years was backup fullback to John L. Williams for Seattle, Tommy A.G.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And that's the week that. The Seattle fans made a big to do out of Bow versus Bosworth. Brian Bosworth, baddest guy in the NFL. So called, bad guy in the NFL. He had the Mohawk with the pink and red hair. They had the tattoos and everything. And he was Jack. And Bosworth got to be famous.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And I'll tell you that he was smart because that persona he put on made him like, shit ton of money. Right. The bad guy. Yeah. The rebel. The heel. I'm going to hit you even if you run out of bound.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's him. Take the 15-yard penalty. I don't care. But I'm going to teach you. You can't run away from me. And I like that. In the whole week, they talk. Bondsworth talk.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm down in L.A. with the Raiders. They said, Beaulayor? No, I don't have nothing to say. Now, that week leading up to the game, Wednesday before the game, Now, I'm not exaggerating this and I'm not lying. I swear on my mother's grave.
Starting point is 00:37:10 The Thursday, before that game on Monday night, three things happen. First thing happened was I told my wife she was pregnant with our second child and she didn't believe me. And she got a pregnant test two days later and she was pregnant. She said, how did you know that? I swear. No, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And then I went back and said, and just being arrogant because it's just me and her in the room, I said, that bow knows shit, I said it's true. So that's just me. The first thing happened.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The second thing that happened, that game was November 30th, 1987. My 26th birthday on that day. The third thing that happened, I celebrated my birthday, me and my Raider teammates, by blowing the asshole out of the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Owned them. Oh, on them, folding them up and putting them in our pockets. But at the end of the game, we have a saying, what do you want to do with these guys? By the end of the same, we want to have their souls in our hands, stuffing them in their pocket. By the fourth quarter, we want to kill the will, kill their will to even play us. They don't want to play us anymore. And the icing on the cake was when I truck balls worked down on the goal line.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Because they've been talking all day. But it worked out good. Now, the first play that I ran two series before I had the 90-some yard run, we ran that play and I cut it back because I'm using all my peripheral. vision. I never looked here. I'm looking here. I'm looking at you and I'm looking at this guy here. But I'm looking this way. So I'm looking. So I see my, so I was notorious for cutting back and eating you up. My offensive coordinator, Terry, Terry Robiskey. Terry Robiskey. Terry Robiske said, but we call him biscuit. We basically come on and said,
Starting point is 00:39:34 Bo. He said, we're going to run that play. Too serious. Now we're gonna run that same fucking place. Keep it outside. And I promise you, you take it outside. You're gonna bust their ass wide open. And was back, like on the seven-yard line. And what's it seven, six-yard line or something? He said, keep it outside.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And I did. And went to Tacoma. As what's the name said. He's not going to stop until he get to a coma. And they had the door open to it. on the stadium. That's the only way I stopped. They had,
Starting point is 00:40:13 and in the tunnel, there was about 30, 40 yards. I went three-quarters away down that tunnel, turn around, and come back. Most of the defense, all of the kicking at game was in the tunnel,
Starting point is 00:40:25 clapping for me, hugging me, cheering me on, and so forth in this song. And then, I think I caught a pass for a touchdown. And then the pay,
Starting point is 00:40:36 I put the nail in their coffin that killed their spirits was when I truck bars down on a three yard I don't. He said anything to you after the game? No, but with me being young and but I lie. This is a lie. So I'm saying it to you right now. But I wanted to say next time, hey, a bus fare motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But I didn't. That's just the trash side of me talking because as you know, we talk trash the whole game. We talk trash the whole game. But that night, that week was probably the best week of my sports career because of the pregnancy of my wife, my birthday, and all my family and friends back home got to see me work. Yeah. What was a relationship like with Terry Robesky? In 2016, he was our office coordinator at the Titans, and he was, his personality is incredible. He could sit there and tell stories today.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But I just did a piece with him last year about his book. Oh, really? That's awesome Yeah Yeah At what age do you feel like You kind of do something outside Whatever it is
Starting point is 00:41:45 Where you're like You have the conversation With yourself And you're like I don't got it anymore Oh hell I said Say that I say that when I lift a toilet seat But all the ability
Starting point is 00:41:56 You had In the morning Yes I was I'd have to say I sit up and think now And I say to myself You look to shit at one time
Starting point is 00:42:05 And you woke up this morning and you felt like you got run over about a herd of cattle. And I asked my wife, did you beat me with a sled camera last night while I was asleep? Arms hurt. My elbow can't sleep because this shoulder hurt. Got an artificial shoulder here, artificial hip.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Prostate surgery. Colonoscopy. I'm a mess. I'm a mess. I'm a mess. I'm a mess. I know we had two. I got one more question.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I'll hit you with a Bud Light question. What do you say to people when everybody's argued by the greatest athlete of all time? Like your name and Dion Sanders' name comes up quite a bit. What do you think when people are arguing for Dion Sanders? Knowing the mindset you have. I know you're not going to say it publicly, but what do you think? Everybody have their own opinion. I would never say I'm the better athlete because that's not my mentality.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm going to always compliment somebody else. Period. Dionne Sandin was great at what he did. He's in the hall of the thing. I love him for that. We are friends. And I'm quite sure I'm going to go to Colorado and get him on my podcast. Because with him having his bladder, cancer, and my prostate issue, shit,
Starting point is 00:43:29 we'll have an award-winning podcast. Hell yeah. Two, the two greatest to do it on, you know, playing both baseball and football. You guys having a conversation with all the hell stuff going on. Absolutely. So that's where I am. And I say this. I was good for the sports when I played,
Starting point is 00:43:49 but those sports was great for Bo Jackson. It's allowed me to be here with you all. It's allowed me to provide for my family. It's allowed me to do things for the public that nobody knows about. I can go do things in the, the shadows and put some sunshine in somebody's life and leave and nobody know the difference. And I love that. I love that part of me.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I love being private. I don't have to be out there. Look at me. Hey, this is me. I hate that. A lot of people, I've been living in my community in Illinois for almost 35 years. And I drive my Dodge Duly to the service station. That's a mile up the street.
Starting point is 00:44:36 and I'm not cheating you. Somebody will walk up to me and say, you like that fellow, Bo Jackson. Then he said, damn it, you are. What the hell are you doing in Illinois? I live a mile down the road. Nobody knows it. The people that see me often
Starting point is 00:44:53 is my buddies that I hunt with, fish with, and the people down on the golf course. That's awesome. That you see me the most. That's awesome. We have a segment sponsored by Bud Light because people would do anything for an ice school Bud Light,
Starting point is 00:45:06 but what is something that Bo Jackson would do anything for? What is something or someone that I do anything for? Something Bo Jackson would do anything for. We're going to put a wrinkle in it too. Can't say family. All right. I would do anything to keep, I can't say that because I'm starting to podcast. And it can't be anything with the family.
Starting point is 00:45:40 No, no, no, no. Well, we can give you a, if you can't do anything, we can give you family. Put it to you like that. You have a favorite grandchild I want them to be. We'll take that. I would give my life. I would give my life
Starting point is 00:45:58 if I can hug and kiss my mom again. Period. Period. That's a good one. It's a really good one. That's it. Yeah. I appreciate you.
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