Bussin' With The Boys - Bo Pelini

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

Recorded: July 20, 2021 | Without this man, Will Compton might not be sitting on the bus. Legendary (and most decorated, sorry Vrabel) football coach Bo Pelini finally joins the boys on the bus. To kick things off, Bo gives us his scouting report on Taylor when he was being recruited in high school. It turns out the boys were closer to being teammates than we might have thought. Then, Will and Bo take a trip down memory lane from their time at Nebraska. They touch on everything from Will's dramatic recruitment process and Bo attempting to ban the team from Twitter, all the way to his fallout with Nebraska. The stories shared in this pod are all-time, and If you're a true wolf, you will eat up every minute listening to one of men that shaped Comp into who he is today. Let's get after it boys. ----- BUSSIN' MAIL: Send a video to The Boys! bit.ly/BussinMail ----- EARN YOUR WOLF: Want to be featured on our Instagram Story? Screenshot this episode, tag @bussinwtb, and share it to your Story. The Boys will take care of the rest... ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy Silverado: The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Freshly: Go to https://barstool.link/FreshlyBussin for $40 off your first two orders. Cross Country Mortgage: Go to https://barstool.link/crosscountrymortgageBSS to learn more about your future home buying experience or refinance your current Mortgage. SLIQ: Go to https://barstool.link/SliqSpiritedIce CannadipsFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tell the point one. What about your experience as well? Like recruiting him? No offense. But is this guy a douche? So you think you'll ever coach college again? I think signing days. Asson.

So we come to the sideline and Bo's just. fuming. I mean... No, all the years you've known me, do you think that I would pay a player? You know, I'm not in this chair without all of that stuff, without all of those hard teachings.

Next thing, you know, Dionne had to buy, basically by the throat up against the wall, saying... One weekday morning, I have a miss call from Boa like six in the morning. Well, we'll play Virginia Tech.

They turn around, I look at him, and he's looking to me, and I said, you ready to go? And he's like, Mm-hmm. What didn't you like when you were there?

What did you thought Bo could have done better at Nebraska? If I could speak candidly, Okay. Welcome to another episode of Bussing with the boys. I am your host, Will Compton, my co-host, Harold Lawan. He's not here for this intro and these ads. I'm going to be reading in the episode. The boy is at training camp.

We are dropping the Bo Polini podcast. This podcast is incredible. Coach Bo Polini, for those of you who don't know who he is, he was my head coach at Nebraska from years 2008 to 2013. he was at Nebraska from 2008. Man, he was only there. Oh, okay. I was there from 2008 to 2012.

And then he was there from 2008 to 2014. But he's made stops. He's been in the coaching world, a very respected coach, highly regarded. Had a rough year this past year as a decornered LSU. Building an insurance policy, it was during a pandemic. And, you know, I love Coach Boso. Please don't talk too meanly about him ever.

But this was an awesome podcast. It was really, it was awesome because, The last time I had sat down with Coach Bo and talked to it was probably in 2013 when I went back my rookie year. And I hadn't seen him since. So we played golf as you're listening to this podcast. I played golf with Bo the day before. And then we went out to Bourbon. No free shout-outs to Bourbon out in Nashville.

We had dinner and everything. He brought his son, Patrick along with him. But it was awesome catching up to him, catching up with him. And Coach Bo is single-handedly the most important coach that I've had throughout my career. career because of what he's about and what the philosophies he teaches to his players when it comes to focusing on the process, compete every day. Anybody who's my teammate at Nebraska listening to this podcast, which I'm sure everybody is, probably chuckles because that's all he was ever about is the process.

And he just talks about the type of person you are and the character you are. And you just don't come across a lot of people like Coach Bo Pellini anymore. he's somebody who knows who he is he knows what he's about he knows what he wants to teach we get into a lot of fun topics with nil coming out if he wants to coach college football again if he would want to coach again what league would it be in how he feels about the nil stuff and we talked about his time at lSU we talked about obviously we took a deep dive into nebraska the bad breakup which i alluded to and also taylor asked um Um, you know, if there were negatives of Coach Bo, what I thought, what I would say he could get better at. And so I talk candidly as well as I could without being too nervous and telling Coach Bo what I think he could be better at. Uh, so it was an awesome, it was an awesome podcast. This could possibly be another Mount Busmore. Just throw that around every time no matter what.

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A new shit's been dropping. There better be flags, dude. I know Nissan Stadium, how much up percentage-wise is our tickets or there's a stat that came out? Since 2019, Nebraska ticket sales have skyrocketed 60-something percent. Tennessee. Tennessee ticket sales of Scott, what did I say? Nebraska. Oh, my bad.

You might not be wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Nebraska's been sold out since the 60s, baby, so everybody's good there. But Tennessee's ticket sales have skyrocketed 60-something percent. You know what? Our podcast started in 2019, but I'm not going to say that's a, like, that's just a coincidence. I'm not going to say it's because I'm just going to say that fact. We started in 2019 ticket sales of one up 65 percent or whatever it is since 2019.

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This is the second time. Hey, Doug, we got a mic now for you. Dobson, give us your name, your age, where you're from, and an interesting fact about you. Just listen to the pot. Okay, that's none of those things. How's that? That's perfect.

James Dobson. So we have Bo Polini on the podcast. Hey, which everyone's fired up about. The most decorated coach we've ever had in the podcast. Yep. Yeah. That's true.

By far. Sorry. I hope Brable's listening. Yeah. Sorry. Coach Rable's listening. That's a. And James Dobson, who's sitting in the back was Dobsons or was Bo's strength coach

at Nebraska. So we were all at Nebraska together. I feel a little outnumbered now. Yeah, you got some Nebraska boys in here. It's kind of like. You could have been a part of us. I could have. I really could have.

I don't look as good and red as I do. We were at dinner last night and he was, he was talking about, we went to bourbon. Yeah. And, how'd you like bourbon? Oh,

it was good. It was delicious. It was excellent. Yeah, Nashville's really kicked up the state game. Yeah, that check is different. I tried to know he ran from the check.

Oh, hey, he got them gator arms. Oh, yeah. He's like, his arms are like, he was like, I got it.

He was like, I got it. And he was like, going like looking for. Starts putting it out there. Yeah. He does, he does do that a little bit.

I was like, oh, you sure, man? And he's like, yeah, I was like, all right. Man, we got the dunk in here. But hey, he was talking about, yeah, I went with that man. Well, I was a little pissed off about the other. And I don't even want to give me a free shout out. Yeah, the last couple times. The last latte, we did a podcast yesterday.

I think it was good for about 30 minutes and then my gas really rolled out. Yeah. And that's not me. I wasn't a big fan of it. You weren't a big fan of the pod? No, the coffee. The coffee. The latte.

I'm always a fan of the pod. It's a good time. Yeah. We had a lot of laughs. You guys are like part of this new general. You guys like the ice coffee. I do like the ice coffee. Well, when it's a hot, when it's 98 degrees outside.

Hang on, let's, I, you know, I don't want you to label me too quickly. I'm a black coffee guy. All right. In the mornings, I make a nice pot. I don't mind it being a latte, but it's got to be hot. I'm, if I'm a lot. I mean, I'm not a big, like ice coffee guy. Not even in the summer heat.

No, not really. But it's also the same guy that says the youth is ruining the every, is we're in the country type guy. Oh, there's no doubt. He's got philosophy. He's crazy. He's crazy. He starts, these kids nowadays is type of guy, you know what I'm saying?

Does the mic need to be closer to him at all Blas? Are we good? All right. But we were talking last night. And he goes, what were you saying about? I'm like, yo, did you recruit Taylor? He said, oh, yeah. He said he should have came to Nebraska.

And he goes, you're talking about just how athletic he was back in high school. Yeah. Because you weren't, you didn't. How much did you weigh coming out of high school? I think the heaviest I ever got was in the 50s, 250. But I was, I played the state championship game at like 2.30. Yeah, that's what I thought. we uh well i i mean you don't know my story you just you came on but i didn't start playing office lines on

my senior year so like all these coaches coming to see me like my ascend we i've talked about this before it was like a three month period of holy shit like it was the coolest thing ever yeah head coaches coming to see me it was it was a cool cool experience nebraska made the top five yeah you said that yesterday on the pie you're like i was you know Nebraska Nebraska was in and Nebraska was there why did you go all the way up to michigan that's what he that's what that was something he asked he's like why the fuck did he go away to miss you flew over a lot of goals. I did, didn't I?

For not a lot of success either. When he grew up in Arizona, like I was like the class, I was like a rebellious kid wore the dicky pants down my ass type guy. And I was in this like rebellious phase was I wanted to get the hell out of Arizona. Like I need to go see four seasons. I wanted to go see something different. So I went to Michigan. Never went up there when it was snowing though.

And yeah, I loved it. Jake Long just came out of Michigan. Yeah. Just the winged helmet, everything. I remember when, I don't remember this. My dad told me when I was born, he said, hey, Taylor can go to any school he wants as long as is Notre Dame or Michigan. And I don't know why. I mean, we weren't even, my dad and I at the time weren't even that close. But for some reason, I went to Michigan.

I committed, I think a couple weeks after I took a visit there. It was a great. It was pretty quick. Yeah. It was, I mean, it all happened so fast, everything. So I had like one or two offers at Utah State and Arizona State going into my senior year. And then I put the two, two games on. And I kind of just sent it out.

out and people started calling, man. It was a crazy, it was a crazy, crazy experience for sure. But I remember you were one of those guys. I looked at like, looked at like five clips and said there's a pro right there. Really? Oh, yeah. Is that far you up? Hey, that does fire you up, dude.

It kind of makes me feel like I should have gone to Nebraska now. I feel like I'll let you down. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I let you down a little bit, but I'm sorry. Hey, can you bring up the Chevy ad? But I remember. I remember. Hey, we got a shout out to Chevy.

We don't have ads. Well, we have Chevy. We always have Chevy. We always have Chevy. We always have Chevy. is what I'm saying. Yeah. Like we always do that one.

And then the other ones we can just plug. I just bought a Chevy. Did you really? Yeah, we fucking go. Absolutely. Did you shout out the boys? Did you say the boy sent me? No, I didn't.

Oh, well, you would have got a, you would have got a hitch. You would have got a trailer hitched. Yeah, you were going to free trailer. It's like $25 off right there. Really? Yeah. Let me just tell you, Bo. I'm really glad you're here.

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I know Bo, he's got a couple boats. He's already told me about how he's been towing around and that Chevy Silverado. Offroading, moving day, helping out your friend or family member road trips. Go to a Chevy dealership. Let him know the boy sent you. And as you guys know, someone got a free little trailer hitch. Brandon M got his own trailer hitch. Yeah, Brandon M.

Shut out Brandon M. He got his own little trailer hitch to go along with saying that the boy sent him. And just let you know if you go to Chevy and you say the boy's, sent you. It's not guaranteed you're going to get a trailer hitch. We probably should put that out there. If you get something more, let us know. Yeah. If you get nothing at all, also let us know. Well, no, if you get nothing at all, just say, hey, I got a truck. And then you can just leave it at that. Just drop the photo.

Yeah, just drop the photo. So we can be really proud of you. I go into the dealership when I get home and saying I want like 10 grand off. What do you think? The boy sent me. Yeah. Yeah. The boy sent you to be all right. Depends how much the car is. If it's like a Chevy Malibu, you're probably not getting that 10 grand off because that's like more than that. Yeah. But you get one of those, the Rocky Ridge. or a high country?

I mean, 10 grand is nothing to those. These are beautiful vehicles. Those are nice. Yeah. Huge pod today. Big pod. We got Coach Bo Polini on the podcast, and guys,

I'm going to be honest. There's going to be a lot of what a should have talked with myself because we're going to live back in the old days a little bit every now and then. I'm along for the ride on this one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just excited to see this. So everybody,

the entire world's probably going to learn a lot about him. I mean, I'm not going to tell you the truth. You know, he can probably sits in here and blow smoke up your ass every day. God damn, what are you talking about? I was just battling. I was just fighting. dying on the sword against Texas yesterday.

He was. Talking about how we should have won. The bullshit second that went on the thought. It was. It was a crock. I mean, you lifted your arms. You were celebrating. I was on the field. It was going to shake hands. Do you feel like since we were moving to- Oh, we're in it? Yeah. Do you feel like, well, I wanted to know, I know my opinion. Do you feel like moving to the Big Ten that was like that played into like we can't let these motherfuckers win? Oh, I don't think there's any question.

I don't think I heard, whether it's true or not, I don't know that it wasn't even that like the replay official wasn't the one who actually hit the button for the re to review it. I mean there was nothing to review. It was over. Yeah. You got something to say about that right there? I hear I'm going there.

Yeah. Game was over. I mean, it was. I mean, and then I heard something like a big 12 official reached over and hit the button. That's what I was told a couple months after and I was like, well, what are you going to do? Well, so why don't you ever say things

like that in like a press conference. Uh, bringing it back out, open the wound. But if you heard a couple months later, why don't you say something a couple months later? I don't know. I mean, that's,

you know, it's like, what are you going to do after the fact? But, that's true. You know, I mean, it's,

I mean, I would have been, I probably spoke out that night, probably more than, I mean, I got fined more than once when I was a head coach. For my press conferences. I don't know if that was one of them.

Will has showed a couple of videos. He did show one video that. was like very much for the players, like saying something like, don't blame the players, blend the coach or something like that. You want to fire me, going to fire me? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, Bo always said the most. What was that after? He always had the most biblical press conferences because what people would get upset about. Religious guy. Is he would,

yeah. Is he would essentially put everything on himself and everything was like, you know, you had your staples that you always went to. So people got pissed that he wouldn't, you know, give people what they were wanting to report on. Is that fair?

Is that valid? I think that's, yeah. I mean, you, like, you know, who was that? Who gave up, like, whose fault was that? I'd say, that's my fault. That's a bad call. And, you know, they didn't like it. They didn't like that, you know, that, I think it just played into it.

A lot of times that they, you know, they wanted, they, they want you to fill in the blanks for them. Because they already have their stories written. And if you, and they want, you know, they want, they want you to, they want you to point people out and things like that. And, you know, me, I wasn't going to do, I wasn't going to go down that road. Yeah. And it's, it's also like. So Nebraska's the only, it's the only team in town. There's no sport.

There's no pro teams. It's all in a whole state. Right. Exactly. And it's huge. So you have these reporters, right? And a lot of them, you grow up in Nebraska. Like everything, everybody's like corn fed.

It's all Nebraska football. And so you have these reporters who grow up, you know, as kids, as fans, now the reporters. Like, everyone has this idea of what Nebraska should always be like. And obviously, people would allude to the 90s a lot. Because that was a lot of shit. Yeah, we talked about all time. Yeah, we talked about that all time. Like Michigan.

Like, we're going through it. And obviously. Now the way we won 9 and 10 games a year, that sounds pretty nice compared to what's going on with Nebraska now. But in the time that we were playing, it was always, you know, you needed to bring in people from the 90s culture. You needed to, we needed to figure out how to be Nebraska and bring Nebraska back to the 90s, to the glory days, everything else. Yeah. And now obviously, you know, it's trended a little different. I mean, what did Nebraska run back in the 90s like a power O offense, just like a gap scheme type run downhill type thing?

Yeah, I'm not sure. Like everybody did in the 90s? it's like you can't do that now like in college football how dynamic everything is how everything's so spread out you can't just have you can't just have ground and pound but you got to have other things you can't just be like hey let's just do what we did in the 90s because it doesn't work like that michigan needs to know that Nebraska needs to know that these teams that had success in the 80s and 90s it's okay to hang your hat and be like these guys bo schembeckler was a legend there these guys are all legends but you got to develop and grow like i mean if you look at alabama look at lsu two years ago Oregon when Marcus Marriota was there.

It's like they were willing to have the, it's not about what the offense is, it's the players around you and you have to do that offense and do that defense based on your personnel. Just the whole groundwork is changed. I mean, the population is shifted. The recruiting's different. You know, there's, I mean, now, I mean, back in the 90s,

you know, 80s, 90s, whatever, maybe even early 2000s. I mean, there was only a couple people were on TV every week. Yeah. I mean, you knew, I mean, Nebraska was going to be on, Oklahoma. You know, there were going to be certain teams on TV. Michigan, Ohio States. I mean, now, you know, you're, you got to go, you got to compete in recruiting against, you know, South Florida, Central Florida, you know, whatever, because everyone's on TV. So the kid doesn't have to get on a plane and fly three hours to go get on to play on TV. He knows, he's going to be on TV every week, almost. Yeah. I mean, that's just the way it works. So it totally changed.

changes to recruiting landscape. Yeah. When it comes to like college football and the way, and it seemed like there'd always be a shift every five, six years. Like some team would be really great and they'd go down,

another team would come back up. And it's kind of been stagnant with, you know, SEC's really dominated, but you have the Clemson, Alabama, Ohio states, like those three teams kind of always really been in it. And then there's everybody else.

How do you think these teams that are on the cusp break through the, and break through that mold from going from a tier two and tier two is, like, you know, a top five team, but not those three teams I just mentioned. How do you think they get to that next level to where they're also competing for, you know,

national championships every year? You know, they're going to have their years. I mean, like LSU had their year two years ago. I mean, you know, they had, I mean, they had Joe Burrow. I mean, and they had, you know, they had, I mean, had some other great, I mean, they had, what, 17 something draft picks or whatever it was that year. You know, they're going to have their years. but, you know, to be consistent, you know, it's, you know, you're going to look at the certain teams that are going to be there almost every year because they're the ones that have the recruiting base.

And the other, the teams that maybe are going to have, you know, once every couple years, they're going to make a run. Those are the teams that probably don't have a stronger recruiting base and a stronger tradition and culture, you know, and it just becomes harder and harder. You know, I mean, Ohio State, they, you know, a lot of these schools, the ones that are there almost every, they, heck, they can recruit in a car. Yeah. You know, I mean, they're a phone call. Yeah. And it's just the way it works, you know. How hard was it coaching through a pandemic?

Oh, it was, that was, it was a crazy year, you know, I mean, I, I mean, it was crazy year. I mean, you know, people, you know, opt and out and the schedules. and I thought, you know, I mean, I thought the SEC, I thought we, at LSU, you know, managed it well. I mean, but, you know, you're talking about it was just, it was just a different year. It was really crazy. And, you know, it's good to see things getting back to normal.

Stadiums will get filled, you know, teams who have their full rosters. And it was, you know, you make the best, I guess, of a bad situation. It was a bad situation. Yeah. What made it so tough at LSU? Because you obviously, came to Nebraska, you had the number one defense at LSU for like years in a row. You're winning Natty's.

You come on Nebraska for? But previously or last year? Previously. I was there for three years. Then I got the head job at Nebraska. Yeah, and he had like the number one D in the country with LSU. Like those boys like Glenn Dorsey, they had dogs on that squad. And then he comes to Nebraska and we're obviously, you know, looking back now, a successful

tenure in Nebraska. And you go to Youngstown. You're obviously successful at Youngstown. You're taking, you're going into the play. and everything. And then you go to LSU and you have a tough year at LSU when it's like,

Bose back at LSU and everyone knows the formula to win that you would know that formula to win what made it so tough. Well, it was just a weird year. You know, I mean,

you put in a new defense and you don't really, you know, you're trying to do things on Zoom. You don't have as much access to your guys. We had a, you know, some guys opt out.

I mean, they lost a lot of guys from the national championship game. We had some team. We had some guys opt out. You know, you have injuries and things like that. It was just a weird year. You know, we kind of finished year pretty good.

But, you know, it was a whole new team. And just didn't work out. You know, I mean, it's simple as that, you know, I mean, it was for, I think there's a lot of reasons. But, you know, me, I'm not the kind of guy to ever make excuses. We didn't get it done. And, you know, so it's, you know, that's just the way the business works. You know, you know, things don't work out for, you. It doesn't matter what the reasons are, you know, time to move on.

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I was the most improved yesterday really yes bro it's crazy I dribbled one off the tea and I'm not gonna allow I was a little nervous going up to the tea

that's why I invited Corey he's like let's play around to golf and I know Bose get at golf he goes at no I stink he's a sandbagger and because anytime we go to bowl games

you know he's always on the course and stuff like that like he's good at golf He likes to go on the, he likes to, he likes to get around. He likes to dabble. Yeah, yeah. He's got a set of clubs. You know what I mean?

Yeah, he owns, he owns a pair. And so, yeah. He's got a top golf guy. And so I hit Corey up in my hey, you want to go golfing with my old head coach and I? He's like, oh, yeah, what time? And so we set it up and stuff and we go and I'm a little nervous. Like, you know, I'm like, fuck, these are probably, I know. I know Corey's good.

And I know Cory can slap it? Yeah, Corey's pretty good. Oh, good. So I dribble one off the tee and, you know, don't really hit it far at all. And then I, he's like, oh, no, Bo's like, oh, no, hit another one. I'm like, okay, you're being nicer to me now than, you know, from what I remember. Yeah. And I put another one on the tea and just slice it like, I mean, just out of playing.

I was like, hey, I'm telling you. Like, like, four fairways over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It took a shot. Oh, bro. It's incredible. Now, I immediately, like, I'm like looking back at Bo. Like that, like, you're like, hey, you just, you just wanted to be proud of you.

I was like, maybe if you, maybe if you. He hasn't seen you in years. Yeah, right. He just wanted to know. I said he starts, you know, coach me nicely. And I'm like, hey, maybe if you yell at me, like, you know, like the old days, like on a big run or gas run or something like that, maybe we'll get something going. Yeah, maybe we'll start rocking it. But, no, he had some good tips.

And I think I made you proud. He most improved. He didn't say yes. That was very, you know what he's the first one. You know, you know what he does when he swings the club. You know, most people look up to watch their ball. Yeah. Like, he swings, hits the ball and looks back at us.

He's not going to. Me, my son Patrick, who's back here, he played with us. Corey. Shout up, Patrick. And the first thing he does is he swings, hits the ball, he looks behind him. I'm like, no one else has ever played the sport of golf does that. He just wants the approval. You guys have to do good?

I'm definitely getting like a Dale Earnhardt, Dale Earnhardt Jr. vibe between the two of you. Yeah. Like he's like, I just want you to be proud of me. And he goes, well, most improved. Didn't say yes. Right. Didn't say I'll tell you a little something. Yeah, yeah.

None of that stuff. It's just I, you know, focus on the process, compete every day. Yeah, there you go. It's your favorite quote. Why is that your favorite quote? You know, just something I've always talked about. You know, back when I was a de-coordinator, I think it really started when, kind of when I started running the defense years ago.

Because, you know, that's what we do. That's what we talk about, you know, day in, day out. You know, everybody wants to talk about goals and I want to get here. it's like, you know, can you keep putting every day? Like, do what you got to do today. I mean, forget about tomorrow. I mean, you know, I always use the quote, you know, or talk about the fact that everybody wants things to happen. You got to want to do the things that make those things happen.

And that's the hard part. That's, you know, every, we all want things to happen, but, you know, you got to do things you don't want to do to make that happen. And that's the process. And a lot of people to never figure that out. especially players. Yeah. People in general have a hard time with that. Yeah.

Everyone sees the, that classic tip of the iceberg picture where it says success and then there's the giant iceberg. Oh, we saw that one all the time. Yeah. And it's all the things you have to do to get to that success.

Yeah. So, but football players, athletes. There's one thing to talk about it, but you got to live it. You got to believe, you got to truly believe in.

And a lot of people don't believe in it. I mean, can you do it every day? You know, I mean, are you going to, can you check that box every day? And, you know, really over what do we talk about it every day

overcome human nature right that's hard to do everyone talks about it you know but you know you you got to live it seems like you're a hell of a pregame speech guy he had some good stuff my moment dobson's not bad

Dobson you know he's got that little coffee bean I was gonna bring up the coffee bean yeah yeah go ahead he had a solid one with a coffee bean what was it it's a it's a pea a carrot and a bean egg carrot and a bean egg carrot and a bean And you put in a bowling pot of water, that egg gets hard, that carrot gets soft. But the bean, the bean changes the water.

Be the bean. You don't like your circumstance. Change your circumstance. Don't let your environment change you. You change your environment. And Will, what's the one thing that coach always put in the bottom of his Friday night meeting sheets? What was it, Will? Six seconds.

Concently of. Concentrate on six seconds of playing? Consentcy of success is constant consistency of what? Come on. Hey, I'm on the fucking spot right now. I got the surrender cobra for you right now. Yeah, like, holy shit, he is struggling right now. If my coach is on here, you probably would say no to come on this podcast.

But if he was on here and he asked me a question, I wouldn't know. Purpose. Yep. Thumbs up, Dob, there we go. Did you want to you? No. Seven straight years. No, you fucking didn't.

I spent a lot of time rate those things. Did you like those things? Did you like the thought sheets? Yeah. The thought sheets that we did that I talked about every Friday night. You didn't have a whole lot of thought sheets, bro. Like the stories and did. Carl would be up there talking to us.

Talking about some war book he's reading. Yeah, but no. And then I would talk to do the same thing. I always talked about it. When the team got together, he'd have a sheet. Oh, yeah, our team meetings. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Bo, you're awesome, man. What else? What didn't you like when you were there? What did he thought Bo could have done better at Nebraska? Me personally? Yeah. Oh, shit.

Put the coffee down. Be careful now, big boy. That's what I'm saying. You gotta put that list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I could speak candidly. I'd like you. Absolutely.

I think when we were in the big moments and Bo would get pissed off. Bo was our like leader. You know what I mean? Like, Bo was the guy where you knew when he was talking on the media. It was always, it felt like, you know, our backs were against,

you know, the nation of Nebraska, basically. Like, it was us first them. Like, you always. wanted to make him probably. You guys are fans. Yeah. Bo was like the head of all of it. So anytime we had a team meeting, everybody's tripping outside the walls, outside the building, you knew you were going to go in a team meeting and hear some juice from Bo. Like he's going to give us something. He's going to get our heads right. We're all going to be good. And when you get in tough parts of the game and Bo, from stories I hear blacks out and doesn't necessarily remember

how much he like gets after people. But when Bo gets fucking pissed off and you feel like shit's in the fan and you feel like you're letting everybody down, I think. feel like that festers into a young kid's psyche. And then you play more to not mess up instead of like needing somebody that's like, hey, it's all going to be fucking good. Like I don't play to, don't play to, to not make a mistake. Correct. And I felt like that happened.

I feel like it happened more so too when you're a younger guy. Because when I was a senior, there was a time where Penn State drove on us, our senior year, had an opening drive and drove all the way down the field and we can't check Vegas or we're getting checks in slower calls or not getting in that. It's a cover one. it's a cover one thing that was in the like in the playbook was it at nebraska or was it at uh it was at Nebraska it's our senior year yeah and we either weren't getting calls in quick or we're not getting lined up fast enough for getting our checks in and they drive it down and score on

us and we come to the sideline and bow's just fuming it's the first series and it's kind of like yo it's all good because we had a good group of seniors but you're kind of mout you're kind of chirping back to him then he comes over and he taps you on the head like it's all good to go you rally i mean you end up winning the game and stuff but i feel like a lot of times like when i noticed it when I noticed it watching from afar was probably the Wisconsin game where you guys were 7 and 0 or 8 and 1. You guys were at their house. Yeah, we're up like 17-0.

You're up 17-0. Or 17-3 at the time. And Melvin Gordon jumps over Corey Cooper and goes to the end zone. And you see you just going in. And I'm thinking from my stance, like these dudes are up 17, 10 going in a half-time against a team that we need to – this is our time to come back. Like, they've obviously had our number every year. like we're in it like we don't you know there don't need to be any red ass being spread around it's more of

like a corral thing that's a moment where I felt like you know you remember certain things like that and not in a way that you know that that's probably my thought of what you could have done better at yeah if I was being if I was being treated like the time of Youngstown too you guys are still in the game and you guys had the most abysmal pass interference call out there and you still got a shot to go to get the ball kicked off to you and at least try and do something and you know yeah it would have been a miracle but right for sure but you and carl are so pissed off and you get a penalty and then you're kind of just out of it but i felt like those were those are moments that i feel like if you if you could zoom out and look on you could be like you know in these times

because he's like the head of the and i think about that all the time you know it's crazy about i always said that uh and i kind of there were times when i would just you know almost not say anything because, you know, there were, there's always that, I always felt like Nebraska was, especially there, was, the kids had so much pressure on them. I mean, forget about, you know, and that sometimes obviously my personality added to that maybe, you know, because they wanted to win. Right. But they, sometimes you want to win so bad, but all of a sudden sometimes, I mean, Daugher, you might agree with something bad would happen. And it was like, it's just compound it was like all of a sudden that data's totally lost their you know some certain guys right

would just totally lose it you know and uh yeah and it was a we we used to sit and talk about that in meetings a lot like okay you know part of it was okay yeah i got i got i got to handle i got it to be better in that situation understanding that what these kids are going through you know yeah i mean you were always uh you know you wanted to be like a player out there playing the game Yeah, too much sometimes. Because I remember the time I came back and we sat in your office for like probably a few hours. We were talking about last night. Like after I left Nebraska and came back and we were talking about it.

And it's like I was trying to say a couple things like that. Like just to where it's like you just know a young kid who's there and they're 17, 18, 19 years old. They're on the young end of it. And all of it's happening. Like, you know, it's a lot for a kid. They're mental. It's like Nebraska that has so much expectation of what you guys are getting at this whole time. Right.

There's more outside of just football. You probably went through that at Michigan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely the message, you, like, there was one time I went on like the old message, like when I was in Nebraska, we were kicking your ass.

I mean, it had to have been like, no, my senior year. We actually pulled a clip up in that like two weeks ago. It was though I blocked well one time in that game. Will threw a punch. He should have been thrown out.

Yeah. But no, I mean, that game, anytime he went to Nebraska and I'm going to get a little off track, but anytime you went to Nebraska, it was the most, it was the weirdest experience because you go in,

usually when you play most teams in the, big 10 you're walking by fans are throwing you the bird as you're driving in and that Nebraska they're just hey how you doing good luck like I have a good luck today yeah like it was super nice and greeting and you guys just donkeyed us I think it was the fourth quarter my senior it was my senior year that was your that was my junior year yeah it was your senior year it was my senior year it was a fourth quarter of like 23 7 or something like that not an incredible deficit but like it was a little something denard got hurt that's it was like okay we're gonna win this backup quarterback went three for 13 with three picks

and we're like, we're running it. We have, this is what we got to do. And it's nothing against, I mean, he was thrown into a situation, but it's so big, it's so loud, everyone is there. And when you're leaving, after you get your ass kicked, everyone's like, all right, hey, good game, great job. Like, you know, it was, it never seemed, Nebraska never seemed like a super hostile environment.

When you're, during the game, it's obviously very loud. But it seemed like the fans were also like, hope it's a competitive game. Yeah. So I never knew, like, all the history there from that, to Michigan where, you know, the year before I got to Michigan, they were losing to Wisconsin and they're getting booed. The home fans are booing Michigan going into the locker room at halftime. And so it was a different deal. They would, they'll turn on you on a dime, but I, I didn't

think it was like that in Nebraska because the way the fans were from what I saw my perspective. They're nice to you. They were, because they saved all their hostility for hostility for me. Yeah. How long were you in Nebraska for? What, seven years? Seven years. That's a long time. You guys had a lot of success there too, right? Yeah. And you were part of the Big 12, Big 10,

we never won less than nine. I mean, yeah, that's very impressive. I bet they took you back at Harvey right now. There's one out of five coaches, six coaches that won. Yeah,

there's only a couple of that year. It was like you, Chip Kelly, Sabin, a few others. I mean, good company. That's a great company. You know, we were consistent.

We were consistent because we had a good culture. We had good kids. We weren't always the most talented team. I mean, Will would agree with that. I mean, we had our, we had our talent, but we also had, we had a strong culture, really good.

I mean, I always say that there is, when I look back, when I left there, we had one, I think there was only one or other team over that period of time that won more games than us at Alabama, maybe Oregon during that time. Yeah. But when I left, we had the highest GPA in the history of the school. Really? Bo didn't fuck around when it came to go in the class. Yeah.

And, you know, because, you know, we, we talked about everything counted. Everything counts. You know, everything you do counts. I mean, how you, we didn't have kids getting in trouble off the field. We had kids going to class. They were doing well in the classroom. And in the end, that leads to giving you the best chance you can be to be a good team. Yeah, especially if you don't have like, you said you didn't work the most talented team in the world.

But if you have a bunch of guys working together. Yeah. I mean, we talk about it. You'd rather have 11 guys doing their job than one guy who's a friend. freak and then, you know, taking the wrong gap and making a couple of TFLs, but also letting a 60-yard run go. Right. So, hey.

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Go to cross-country mortgage.com slash barstool to learn more about your future home buying experience or refinance your current mortgage. Do you think there's ever a time you end up back in Nebraska? No, I'll never end up back in Nebraska. You don't think so? No. Even if they call, no, hey, hey, listen, we fucked up. They wouldn't.

They wouldn't. No. that would never happen not there that's a bummer yeah because of how bad the breakup was no it just because it was more than that you know obviously it was the AD at the time but i mean and the in the chancellor at the time those two kind of probably drove it but the media you know they had gotten the media on board and those media people would never admit to being wrong or you know to but you know i just don't think of whatever it would never happen now yeah I think what was interesting to me, too, is like when they were kind of, and this is, this is my, me talking, when they're kind of pushing you out of there.

I thought it was interesting because Tom Osborne was the AD before, who's the AD that came? I cursed. I course. I course. And you would think that Tom, like, I would assume that Tom and everybody there that's in the culture there would already let the new people coming in and know, like, you know, this is the culture we have. you know what I mean? Because Tom Osborne's like seen in Nebraska as Tom Osborne, you think that something like that just wouldn't happen.

Like how it happened, how it all unfolded and happened. You would think that they would have celebrated and treated Tom better at the end. And that didn't happen. They weren't treating Tom good at the end? No, I mean, no, not really. He did kind of force Tom out. I don't think Tom was quite right.

I mean, in the end, I think Tom Osborne, you know, earned the right to, I mean, came back, kind of saved the program. when he came back as the AD. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then all of a sudden, I think he's pretty much earned the right, you know, Tom would never say this. But Tom earned the right to pick his successor.

And to make sure that, you know, safeguard the tradition, all the things that went on. And that didn't happen. So here we are. Yeah. They're fighting to get back, you know. What kind of report did you have at the time with that new AD?

Like how much was he involved? With I-Corps? Yeah. Almost no relationship at all. I mean, over the time he was there very little. Almost none. This is the guy. This is the guy that kind of pushed him in the new AD.

How did that, how long was he there before you left? He had been there about a year, a little over a year. And so he was supposed to come in and be kind of an interim guy. Yeah. And then that like, that it just happened a lot faster. Next thing you know, he's in, Tom's out.

and, you know, at that point, you know, Tom had hired me. That's why I came back, you know, because Tom had talked me into coming back. And, you know, at that point, you kind of know that this is going to be a long-term thing. Yeah. And when it came to the relationship, was there, did you try to initiate a relationship with this guy, talked to him, be buddies with him? He was very, he was just a standoffish. That was his, that was kind of how was, that was his style, I guess.

Take a step back so he didn't have to make emotional decision. It could all be business. Yeah. He didn't really, he didn't interact with, he didn't interact with a lot of people very much, but especially the coaches. I don't know how much he interacted, even with some of the,

you know, the underling, you know, the people that were, the assistant ADs and that type of thing. He had a different style. And, but,

you know, to me, everything, especially at a place like Nebraska, it's about relationships. When you don't have relationships and, I mean, heck,

my last year there, I thought we went, I think at one point we were 7 and 0, and I'm answering questions about my job security. Oh, really? I'm like, life's too short for this. Yeah, that's got to be tough. Yeah.

Because I know if we were 7-0 at Michigan, people would be celebrating from the roof. They'd be jumping off the stadium. Where are we 7 and 0 or something? I care. I was on. Yeah, I was gone. It was a mere senior year.

It was the end of the day. We had never won less than 9. You know, we were 9 and 10 every year. And, you know, even a, I mean, heck, I laugh because I see some of these coaches and schools like, you know, guys win five games and they get a contract extension. I said, heck, they would have been burning crosses in my yard if I went. Yeah, dude. When you were talking about, you didn't, you know, you weren't thinking they were treating Tom that well.

Like were there people that didn't like Tom? Like in Nebraska. It's kind of hard to imagine anybody not liking a Tom Osborne in the state of Nebraska. I don't know, you know, what are they, I don't know how you can't like Tom. I mean, you can't, but, you know, I think there's some people there that were, you know, some of the people that were decision makers that were probably jealous of him, you know, got, you know, saying, you know, because, you know, Tom was kind of seen as, you know, kind of bringing the program back and bringing a tradition back.

And, you know, people want their credit. people want you know whatever for whatever reason to human nature comes in and yeah there's jealousy involved and i've got to overcome human nature yeah when you were in that uh that video the conference he was talking about earlier when you're talking about what game was that i don't know yeah when was that when you're like you guys want to fire me fire me the press said something to you along on the lines of like players and job security and you just started going off on them about like i ain't worried about my job i ain't worried about this i'm worried about like the not the player's fault it's my fault put it on me and you kind of had like your own i mean as a player

watching i'm like damn you kind of want to play right you're like i'm you know if they want to fire me they can go ahead and fire me you know what press conference i'm talking about it could have been one of you i don't know i don't yeah okay so oh it was after we lost Iowa the year before that's a big rivalry right obviously and that that was a year you i mean there wasn't you stayed another year right because there are rumors about you there are rumors about people wanting to fire you then right Like you want to this was like a two-year thing to where you kind of felt Chicken shit call What personal foul was that?

Who knows dude? That could have been any call. That could have just been a fucking outside. No. We got to we there was a big third down. I remember there was a big third down in play and you know we go we were off the field and flag comes out really costs us a game and you're costs us a chance to win the game. And they asked me about after the game.

What do you think what do you think of that pastor? interference call at you and I there you go 10 grand yeah yeah yeah dobson on uh on your end what would during this time that was your senior year will lost Iowa no no no we we we were gone by then against Iowa you were George George George George from the years already nine games every single year from your standpoint a lot a lot of times a strength coach goes with the head coach like we we all know like it kind of comes down and you see all this pressure from the media what was your thought process like during this whole thing.

Did you think it was a loaded horse shit or what? I think the whole staff supported Bo. Yeah. I mean, like Will said, he was the leader of the team. He's a leader of the staff. So the staff always supported Bo. No question. I mean, all the players did.

It was always, you always felt the, you always felt the separation of everybody who played for Bo, everyone who was in, like, the culture of Bo. And then pretty much everybody. Not everybody else, because I hate to say that, because you would even, you know, you would even help guys too in team meetings because guys would get death threats for, you know,

not making a play or something like that. People's families would get trash. Remember Niles Paul, like his family, who's getting stuff thrown at him or something after a game? Because he dropped that ball. Because Niles was running into the end zone and fumbled the ball into the end zone, like as he was about to score.

And we lost a game we shouldn't have against Iowa State, but we shouldn't have. You know, the players, we kept kind of everything in house, but I think the players appreciated me for, appreciated not just me, but our staff for what, we were because I think at the end of the day

as much as we you know that we were hard on you we had high expectations for the players but I think they always believe we had your best interests at heart I think the players I mean it really sounds like it I mean knowing how Dobson is and then how Will's

talking about you sounds like you guys had a really good squad inside that was able to keep it in-house sometimes there's always a stray staff member that would leak some stuff out or you know it kind of seemed that way in Michigan where they're They're the core group of people really believed in what we were doing, but there was always a few stragglers.

And it sounds like in your building, in your core group, there was no stragglers in that. Yeah, on our floor, it was pretty strong. And it seems, I mean, I don't know, how does it make you feel past player and all the players that play with Will at Nebraska that I've met through Will, they had nothing but good things to say about you. That's got to be a good feeling.

Yeah, we had a, like I said, I think that's why that gave us a chance to win and be consistent as we were, we were all pretty much on the same page. and we had a strong culture, you know, and high character, hardworking. I mean, just like the Chevy Silverado. Just exactly like the Chevy Silverado. But I mean, it is true.

We can sit here and talk about, you know, moments objectively. The process. We talked about it all the time. And I think the players believed in it. You saw guys when I would walk out, I mean, guys would stay. People were in there watching film by themselves. That's awesome. They were doing the extra, the little things that give you a chance

to be successful. Yeah, and at the end of the day, you can talk about us not, you know, winning certain games for whatever reason or objectively looking at, hey, what could we have all done better? Like, everyone knows they can get better at something. But overall, I mean, everyone has re-benefit from, you know, all your mantras that we mess around with and play with because Dobb always preached attitude and effort.

Bo is always preaching, focus on the process, compete every day. And as much as we joke about it, it's like, you know, I'm not in this chair without all of that stuff, without all of those hard teachings. because you were about, you know, and I always remember it because God bless Josh Mollock and all the guys who would miss class and you would have to call out in a team meeting and go over sleeping and fucking class. Yeah. But it's like, guys, I'm not babysitting. I'm not here to babysit you. Like, you're not going to show up on Saturdays.

You're not going to show up when you want to. It's not, you don't wear the end on the side of your helmet and get to be out in front of 90,000. And then all the other days of the week, you get to, you know, slap off, not go to class. and then you want to, you know, come dick around at practice or show up at practice just to go be on the sideline during the game Saturday. Yeah. He's like, you're either going to be an all the time guy or you're not going to be here.

And, I mean, you know how it is with class checkers. It's brutal. I mean, Bo has literally had a rapport with goddamn, felt like every teacher because they, like, couldn't wait for a football player to mess up so they could email him and be like, oh, I'm talking to Coach Bo Polini. I haven't on that list a lot. I haven't already.

You know what I mean? Yeah, so I would go and check classes every night. You would go? Oh, yeah. No, he really would. I wasn't there yet, but it was, your first spring ball and guys were talking about how you shut down O Street basically for on the

team. What's O Street? O Street was like the bar where you went to the bars. He's trying to rebuild the culture so he's not letting guys really go out like be seen out in the scene like downtown. So if you're caught out it's yeah at six and there were a couple of places that were just off limits where yeah it was just the rail. Yeah it's always it's always like that fucking rail I went in. Yeah I know you went downtown is what I was getting at right? So I walked in it I heard about this brash rail so I went in there and I went in there

and it was like there luckily there were no players in there that night, but the people were like, could not believe. That you showed up there. And DeMario was in there. Like the spot you go to where it hits midnight and you stays open to one, you go to the rail at midnight because that's where it just gets, it just gets grimy. Loud music.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, you know what I mean? That finisher, the one you kept the night off. So you remember DeMario Williams? Yes. DeMario was in there. So I was in, and he knew I was back. So I said, DeMario, he goes, he is going to be in the brash.

He says, there's a good night to be. He's going to be in the brash rail. So I walked in, I went and saw him. You know, obviously I was in there to see if any of you guys, if any players were in there. But I kind of gave me an excuse. I said hi to DeMario, gave him a hug, looked around, saw no one was in there and walked out. Next thing you know, I mean, it was by the next morning at lifting. Everybody knew that I was in there.

You're in the rail. Yeah, so they were like, don't go there. Don't fuck around, dude. Dobby checking classes? No. No, he was a job. job was above that. Oh, the greatest ever was Marlowe.

Tim? Yeah, so I'm, you know, so I'm, he was either a freshman or sophomore. The bar, the bar? Yeah, no, I show up to check class. Yeah. And he's got his backpack on and he's getting, like, sees me. So I come up to steps. He's coming out the door.

And I know it was Monday night football. He's probably going to watch Monday night football. It was like one of those, you know, two and a half hour classes. And halfway, so I showed up halfway through and he was, he was inching out of there. Yeah. And he's like, he's why I see him. He's got his backpack on and everything. And I said, where are you going?

He like makes her right, walks over and says, I'm just getting to drink of water. I said, get your ass back in there. Yeah. Oh, he was so. We laugh about it to this day because he's like, yeah, I got busted. Yeah. No, it'd be crazy. I had people talk about you showing up the classes and everything like that.

you and Dobson bringing in the program what was that about what does that mean bringing in the program there's these fucking military navy seal guys it's just kind of a bone I've had with these guys ever since I've been in college but you would uh do all these hard ass fucking sounds like it's all Dobson yeah it's 100% it's basically a Dobson GPP day in the evening so Dobson would lose yeah Dobson you ever lose to a guy Nebraska GPP training just kidding yeah I am fucking around

it it's military's version Eric Capitoula at the program it's developing leadership through shared adversity. So it's really not a work. That sounds like the most terrifying thing ever. It's a leadership deal. It's really good. Eric, the guy who runs this here,

Eric Capitouac and his group, I mean, I recommend it for anybody that, any team, corporation, whatever. I mean, it is, they do an unbelievable job. Shared adversity. So what's the, oh, you share adversity in this program.

Sounds like it. No, it sounds terrifying. It's his adoption, GP. day. It's not for the faint of heart. So how does the process work? You brought this guy in? Yeah, so we hired these guys to come in, and it's a leadership seminar. It's basically what it is for two to three days, and it's on them.

They control it. They run it, but they'll give us feedback. Coach Bull, you know, ask those questions or have, you know, those guys work on certain situations with certain guys on the team. But they run it. They control it. And it's good. It's really good as far as... Yeah, they don't intervene at all. You'll give them background. and then they'll take, they'll go and run with it. And then afterwards, you know,

they kind of give you your feedback and say, you know, this is the strength. These are the leaders. These are the guys that, you know, any kind of, this is how I would push his buttons.

This guy needs this. Really? It's amazing how spot on they can be and just being around guys for whatever. What is it? 72 hours. Yeah, 72 hours. So it's not like a pro,

it's not like a workout form. It's not a, You know, we're making this a workout under strength conditioning. It's a, it's a class. It's like a three-day class, basically. But there is a workout. You're working out. Oh, yeah.

We're doing a perfect jumping jack. What is that? Okay. A perfect jumping jack for a lot of metal stuff. A lot along with the physical. Then they go in the pool the next day. Yeah. The next day.

The next morning. Morning at 3 a.m. Oh. After finishing. We don't care about sleep. Yeah. After finishing at like 9 p.m. the night before you go and sleep for a few hours.

Then you got to be at the pool the next day, like 3 a. a. No, you guys at 5 a.m. Oh, bullshit, dude. You had to get up, but you had to be at the pool at 5. Okay, maybe be at the pull of 4. We'll say 4. How good is it feel to be able to talk to your old coaches like that?

A bullshit, dude. You're going to be on the floor. Were you pretty bitter about it? No, not really. I mean. Did you do it every year? Well, you're kind of soft, so I guess. What was my feedback?

Did they ever point out Will as a leader? they put on Will's no no no they didn't even know who Will was really hey that's got to be tough to hear by well was a always a leader that was one thing he's a gory gohardt for sure he's definitely one of those cats he's definitely one of those cats why you got to do that no I was my senior year I literally I was all Michigan manned out I was all about it but you learn yeah you know what I'm saying we are both the same way

in college our senior years I don't know about your first three years because my first three years I was pretty yeah I mean I was you know I wish I wouldn't have took it as serious as I did but I mean it's got me here so yeah because I look back and I think I just I always put a lot of pressure on myself you know as a kid yeah everything else and um so it makes you great though yeah true yeah what's the phrase the oh the paranoid survive yeah I think people are out to get you do to go right they don't get the best putting in the extra time is what gave you you you know you I mean you were obviously very talented but for college putting the extra time in yes

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Stop hacking and stop streaming for free. Go buy, go to the Showtime app and start paying these boys through the pay-per-view on Showtime. Shout out the boys. Will, Will, well, came to my house, not my house. A family I lived with in high school. He came to Arizona and stayed for a couple days. We did some podcasts out there. And one night we put on the 2012 game, Nebraska versus Michigan.

When we, the game we won. It was the Will Compton show. The announcers the whole time we're talking about Compton, his leadership. There are, you know, nine guys are leaving these nine guys, but Will Compton's the guy. Like, it's, they were on them. Definitely overachieving. We got our ass kicked the year before at the bank house. Remember that?

Yeah, it was a donkey. Bo comes into the team meeting and basically just says everyone needs to be like Levante, David. Because Levante had like 27 tackles. Yeah, he had like 30 tackles. that dude i was like no this dude's he's like the only guy in here who should feel worth the shit about anything is this one right here levante you guys all need to be like him he was an amazing he well he still is but you know levanti i think i i always point that out he was like that that way you want to talk about misses i just scout after scout after scout coming in you know what's say what do you

think about lavanti well he's not this he's not that he's not you would say that or they would say that they would say that. He's not, you know, he's just fall. You know if he's big enough. And it's like, are you watching it? Like, he makes every tackle. Yeah. Like, how, like, and I'm like, you're going to play against him. You better take him or you're going to have to play against this guy.

And he's, Levanti was just, I mean, you would, he was a lot like you in that he lived it. Like, he watched tons of film. He just, he was about so detailed. And he's so talented. Character.

off the charts and everything. I mean, it's just good. Extremely underrated. Kind of like an Ed Reed style. Like he just, he just keeps himself. He's getting his due right now. Yeah.

He's deserved. He's deserved for last five years. Yeah, you watch that Super Bowl and, you know, he was, he got, to me,

he was like the MVP. I mean, he, he, he, he, covered Kelseyie the whole game. Him and White,

those, the linebacker, their two linebackers are incredible. Incredible. They do a great job. They do a really good job. The young kid,

he's a player too. Yeah. absolutely. And he's got a great guy to learn from, you know, they're playing next to. I'm assuming Sue's the best player you ever probably had from a talent standpoint. Would Lovante probably be second? Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

Glenn Dorsey, and it is a college player. You know, he didn't, he kind of didn't, poor Dorsey, you know, he got drafted and they put him, he was a, to me, it was a three technique. And the next thing you know, they've changed to a three, four. And they, I can think that hurt his career. But those two guys were really good. It's got to be tough when you see guys, especially you care about in college, be so successful.

And then they don't get their due in the NFL. For me, like, Dinar Robinson's that guy. Yeah. He was so electric in college and the fact that they're paying these kids now. Like, Dinar could have made millions of dollars in college. He was unbelievable. And it just wasn't able to translate in the NFL. I mean, he had some nerve damage in his hand.

I think that really affected him. But the guy's talent. Who was that quarterback from Ohio State? Raxon Miller. Yeah. He's very, yeah, he extremely talented. Another one. And he was so talented.

He went to a wide receiver in the NFL and actually played for a little bit. Yeah. But is he still in the league? He was in the league like last year. We could. All I know is that one night at Ohio State, there were a couple times where he went like 70. We had like three unblocked guys in the hole. And not only did we not tackle him, I don't think anybody touched him.

I mean, that guy was such a. I said that was probably one of them. I mean, he was so talented. Really? Yeah. And you reminded me, you say, you reminded me a lot of, of, uh, Dinar. Yeah. No, they're very similar that way for sure. It was, but yeah, you hope those guys,

because they're not going to get paid like that in the real world. And that's a bummer. I know Dinar's coaching now, and I hope he's a head coach someday. I hope he goes into court. Oh, really? I think he's coaching at Jacksonville. He's a running back coach of Jacksonville. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah, so he's doing it. The Jags, baby. He's making that climb. He is. That's a bit of a deal. I want to ask Dops about GPP. Dobb, did you ever do GPP against players at Nebraska?

No, I've never done it again. No, they always did their own thing. Similar like he was at Vandy. He was never doing it with the Vandy players. They always did like harder shit. So you've only lost to me and GPP. I wouldn't say I lost to you. I'd say our team.

Yeah, you keep bringing that up. Who was your teammate? God, please stop doing this. I was the teammate. I was a teammate. I was a teammate. All right, I let Dobb down. Dobb, uh, was it Matt?

Who's my guy? Yeah, Matt Maynager. Yeah, Matt. Me and Matt dominated Will and Dobson and a GPP. And Dobson prized himself on that stuff, man. I took his soul that day. So I really want to get that out. That was just for me in this podcast.

You feel better now? I feel amazing right now, just hearing that. All I know is he was supposed to go to dinner with us last night. So he's gotten kind of soft. And I hear he had to go. So he's supposed to hook up with us for dinner. But now he's kind of hanging out with the elites. You know, that's white collar.

He's white collar now. I'm hanging out. The blue is fading. I'm hanging out with Will and Taylor. Yeah. I'm white collar on. Yeah. The blue's been fading on him for sure.

That's tough. here. I know. Especially a guy you respect as much as the opposite and you know how much it's just

eating at him back there. Can you believe it? I don't, I can't believe what you turn into? No comment. Oh, man.

So you think you'll ever coach college again? Uh, I don't know. You know, you never say never. I don't, you know,

you don't ever close any doors or anything, but I'm not real that the, the whole transfer thing, the, NIL. There's a lot of things that I don't quite agree with that are going on in the direction of it. But I don't know. I would say that I would lean more towards saying, if I, if I'm coaching again, it'll probably, probably be in the NFL.

Oh. How do you think you'd handle the NIL stuff? Well, you've got to embrace it if you're going to do it. But it's, I think it's going to be interesting to see if anybody. I think it's almost going to be impossible for them to police it. I mean, I don't know exactly what all the rules are and how much they can make and all those types of things. But it's going to be like the Wild West. Seems like a lot of gray area. How many team meetings will we have had already over the NIL? One.

I would have got my point. There's no fucking doubt there. I remember. So back, you know, that was when Twitter was kind of stuff. was kind of starting to grow a little bit. Everybody's kind of getting their Twitter accounts. Like, oh, nine, ten. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bo didn't want us to have Twitter. You know, the boy. Like, you got to have Twitter. No, don't say that. Okay, sorry. I let you have Twitter. There's no doubt, but there was like. But when, when they're just,

when you're putting the stupidest things out there, I said, no, it's over. You're done. So I'm pioneering the lead to keep Twitter. Yeah. Right? You know what I mean? Like, hey, but.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. for sure 100K And so, you know, Bose allowing us to keep it, but, you know, be solid on it. I took it away for a while and I said, listen, you can get it back. That's right. He did take it away for well.

Nothing about the team, nothing about, you know, no, I said, just know that it can be taken away that quick. Like, rabble type stuff, like with the media. Like, nothing about the team, don't talk about playbook. And so Bo gives us Twitter back. and boys are all having a good time. And one weekday morning, I have a call,

a miss call from Boat like six in the morning. Oh, that's a tough one you wake up, when you wake up, and you look at an asshole, it gets a little tight, you're like, holy shit. Yeah, things are about to go down. It's almost as bad as waking up

for a workout five minutes before it starts. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I call him and he's like, hey, you mind coming to my office? I'm like, yes, sir. You know, it's not good news. You know, I'm sweating, telling the story. I'm sweating.

I've been there. And so I go to his office and I sit down, he's like, he sits back, he's like, so you guys wanted Twitter back, right? And then he picks up this piece of paper. And he goes, here's what comes across my desk in the morning. And he looks down and he goes, Lamborghini Mercy,

your chick, she's so thirsty. I'm in my two-seat Lambo and your girl, she's trying to jerk me. He looks up at me and he goes, what fuck am I supposed to do with that? And me, I'm sitting there like, you know, knowing it's lyrics to a Jay Z song, I'm like, you know, coach, you know.

And obviously, I do nothing like where that came from. Yeah, he doesn't. I love to. He just reading it. And I can tell. He's got big guys when he's looking when I'm reading this. But I think he's also wanting to laugh because I'm sure I'm not like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm not reading it right.

Yeah. He goes, the other thing your head coach is think you just put that a hot trap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, uh, coach, it's just, it's just lyrics. He's like, not everybody knows that. And, uh, he's like, this can be taken out of any content.

so you know big tobs 48 shout out shout out toby okie me dude but big tops 48 and then you know we go to practice and then after practice he's like he's like uh toby stand up he's like big tobs 48 and then he reads the whole thing yeah yeah yeah and I'm kind of sitting there like you know you know it's coming you know it's coming

and then he just kind of reiterates how important it is that you know not like do dumb shit on twitter and stuff like that but he reads and I know in my head of my oh he has no clue this is lyrics he thinks he's just like about to get jerked off in some two seat Lamborghini but so when the NIL stuff like what good like why like who does that everybody I know it's just mind blowing them I'd be in the back of that I take it an age just like this guy has no idea yeah yeah yeah that's so funny and so in the NIL stuff that's like the number one thing guys do is they like put their quote of them doing this standing thing in front of a car that's probably

not theirs and then they put some line Lamborghini mercy And so all of our group chats were hitting at all. What do you think? What do you think our team would be like if the NIO would have got released and we're all, you know, laughing? We would be in a team meeting right now. But I couldn't wait to ask you, like, how you think you'd handle this new NIL world. And, you know, it seems like you don't want to coach college football anymore. That's the thing that sent him over the other.

He's like, fuck, I'm not dealing with this, this kind of bullshit. Yeah, 100%. I mean, it was just funny. Like, Corey Levinn yesterday. Corey Levin. Yeah, well. Yeah. I'll disrespect.

Is he as fit as he looked in that picture? Yeah, he looks good, man. He does. How much he was a good golfer. But I could not believe that, you know, like just, I never really thought about it from his standpoint. We were sitting under one T and we're waiting a T off. And he, somehow the NIL came up and he goes, yeah, can he goes, there are going to be kids that haven't done anything making more money than some of us that are playing for the league minimum. He goes, he goes, what's like, how about that?

I never really thought about it from that standpoint. He brought that up in the group chat. He was, I mean, it's a great point. Yeah, it is a great point. Like, do you cap a number?

Yes, you can only make a million bucks. I don't know. But you know how it is. It's like the free market. Yeah. It's like there's this world that people, a lot of people like don't agree with,

the social media aspect that's coming up. People can kind of build their brands and do all that kind of stuff and capitalize on it without necessarily. I'm all four guys getting what they, you know, making money and doing all those types of things. It's just, to me,

it all happened so fast. It doesn't seem to be well thought out. I don't think they even understand what the problems are going to be with it. It's kind of like the transfer role. It went from. He's so hard to transfer. Yeah. You've got to sit a year to now they're granting everybody the waivers to now anybody can transfer one time and just be eligible right away.

And it's like, you know, so, you know. It's like almost why be a head coach and those kind of when those things can play. Yeah. Like, you, a kid, kid doesn't get instant gratification. I'm gone. That isn't the way life works. That is not the way life works.

I mean, you're not going to get, you got to work your butt off. You know, you're not always going to walk in. Heck, you walked in, you came in and got redshirted. I'm sure you wanted to play as a true freshman. It wasn't the best thing for you. You probably, you could have played it as a true freshman, but ultimately it wasn't the best long-term thing for you.

And you had to wait. That's just the way life works. but kids are not getting that message anymore. I mean, from the recruiting process right on through. I remember a few years back, it was funny that I think back, they asked me one time at the Big Ten Media Day about signing day, and I said, I think signing day is asinine.

And I said, well, what do you mean? I said, there shouldn't be a signing day. And I said, well, I don't understand what you're saying. And I said, but kid commits. he should sign. Why does there have to be one day to sign? Right. And I said because,

so then they can commit, they can decommit, all these different things. I said, A, it would be better for the players. It would be better for the schools. B, it would be better for the players. Because they're, you know, in recruiting,

there are teams, schools that offer kids. They have no intention of taking. Right. You know, for whatever reason, they do these things. And it would just be, better for everybody involved, but it would you know, like, well,

never really thought about it that way. Well, sometimes we all got to sit and think a little bit. It made a little too easy on the kids. Sometimes we all got to sit and think a little bit, guys. Just feel dumb and shit after being told that. Sometimes we got to sit and think a little bit. Shit.

Yeah, but it's true. Think about it if you didn't have signing day. Yeah, it would be better. It would slow, and it would slow recruiting down again. I think the worst thing about recruiting right now is now they're freshmen. been being recruited or sophomore.

It's crazy. Yeah, it seems like eighth graders are getting offered now. Look at you. Look at perfect example. You didn't really come into your own to your senior year. God only knows in this day and age, what would have happened? You probably wouldn't have had all the offer because a lot of people would have been filled up by that.

Well, a lot of schools were at the time. Right. Schools like Texas and USC, they already had their whole draft class for the next year. Yeah, even more so now. Absolutely. Because ultimately, and no one would want this. but slowing it down is better for the players and the schools. Well, it gives you more of time to make an educated decision.

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Being a head coach at a place like Nebraska, like, what do you feel like is the hardest, what was the hardest part of that job? Recruiting. Is that all, that's got to be the hardest thing in general, always. Well, yeah, I mean, it's more so at a place like Nebraska

because you're going to get, like, probably 85% of your players, you know, of your scholarship players are going to be from out of state. Yeah. I think one year we signed like, 23 kids. What was it, Dauber?

It was it 23 kids from 17 different states and the average was just under 1,000 miles away. So you had to turn over every rock. You had, you know, our... You got to find guys that the big schools on the coast probably didn't want. Yeah, you'd have the best recruiting guys out there

in all different regions. Yeah, you had to evaluate and keep evaluating. You know, we had, you know, like a mirror. We got a mirror because we were, the only ones that really wanted him to play running back. You know, Auburn wanted him to play corner and... Quincy and Nunwa. I mean, I can't remember who we beat on him. I mean, he had like one other, one or two other offers. They were smaller schools.

Really? I mean, Levanté, it was out of Nebraska and South Florida. Yeah, Levanti, we beat South Florida. That's just the most wild thing, how talented he is. Right. It's crazy. And they decided he was too small? Yeah, they would say, I mean, I, what did Levante play for us?

So we're on 208. Yeah, he was in the teens at highest. Yeah. His first year, his first year is 209, 210, and then his last year was 216 to 219. Yeah, but did he play the whole year at that? Yeah. Well, he'd lose a little bit during the year, but he was solid 215 to 219. He'd eat his ass off too because Levanti didn't have a driver's license in college.

So I was like the guy who had the license. And so Levante would ride with me and he'd want me to pull in Sonic all the time. He'd be getting the fucking chili cheese dogs. And I'm talking about I got to gain weight. And I'm like, well, you think this is the right way to gain weight? Well, in college is you've got to eat whatever. Yeah. You fall on a budget.

That's a classic thing too. The Nebraska pages up. It's got Lavante David at 225. Right. Yeah, oh, classic. He never, he never smelled. Never spent the time. No, not even close.

Talk to me. I'm, we're kind of, it's already an hour. It's been a great pot. You've been doing an amazing job. Talk to me about your experience as well. Like recruiting him. Oh, he loved recruiting.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. He probably he decommitted about what 26 times. No, I fucking did it, dude. You decal? He loved it. I didn't decommit, but I was he wanted.

He wanted, he wanted to be loved. He wanted, he wanted to talk on the phone all the time. At the end of the day, that's all we all want, right? We just want to be loved. Like I would hang up the phone with them and I would just look at my wife and say, I hope he goes somewhere else. Oh. No, I did not.

You just start crying on the pod? No. No, he was... Did you have a lot of offers? Yeah, I had offers. I had some offers. He was a four-star athlete. Big recruit.

And, you know, obviously it was my first year. So we were... We worked hard on him. And he told me, you know, I, for a while, tell him the story. Which one? Like, how it had? Because he was getting ready to flip.

Yeah, so... Who were you going to flip, too? Probably, it was Illinois and Missouri. So just to give kind of... To give context. Like Illinois had just competed in the Rose Bowl against USC, and they had Jay Lehman, who was like an All-American linebacker. Zuck was there at the time, and he was really,

Zook was a great recruiter. Yeah, because Champagne doesn't seem like the most fun place in the world. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm definitely glad I didn't go there. And then Missouri had chased Daniel. Shut up Illinois. Yeah. Missouri had Chase Daniel.

And they were, you know, in the Big 12 championship. They were like that close. So you had the instant pressure of going to Missouri. And then I had committed to Nebraska before the season started. So before Nebraska's even playing, we had like a top five recruiting class. Blaine Gabbard was the quarterback, five-star quarterback. We had a top-five recruiting class for sure in all the rival rankings and shit.

And Nebraska had a bad year. They went like five and seven maybe. There's the first time they hadn't done something in X amount of years. So they fired Bill Callahan. They wanted like his head on a stake basically. Nebraska is crazy when it goes off. We're talking about all the breakup stuff earlier with him. Exit by 10 with Bill Callahan.

Yeah. And so Nebraska is basically falling apart. It's not like the 90s, this, that, the other. And so guys are decommitting. They're jumping ship. And Missou and Illinois were having good years, and they were recruiting me hard. And there was this time where they didn't have a head coach in place in Bo. They didn't have an AD yet.

So I was taking visits to other places because I was probably going to decommit and go somewhere else. And Tom Osborne gets hired as the AD. He comes in the old Bontar, Missouri. Teachers, old teachers are going nuts about Tom Osborne because he's like one of the most winning as coaches of all time. And he's like, I can assure you're going to like the new head coach. And, you know, you're sitting there as a kid fucking drinking your own Kool-Aid and shit like that.

Like, I still figured I was going to go somewhere else. Bo gets hired. I go on an official visit to Nebraska. It was a solid visit. Shout up Lake Lawrence. He was my host. Bo, he did a great job. He took my mom to church because that's what did it.

And that's what did it for my mom. Yeah. We get back. You know how it is getting recruited. Was it a special kind of church or was it just the fact that he was just taking her to church. My mom, she's a, uh, Catholic school principal. Yeah, I know that. So she's like that really thugged on her heartstrings. And, um, you know, at that point, being a senior, you're having to miss basketball games,

watching your friends, your, the volleyball games, like going to stuff because you're having in-home visits. That's back when you can get texts, phone calls all the time. There's like, no limits. So I'm just over recruiting. Like Notre Dame came in late, which is where I wanted to go initially. And I just didn't want to go on a visit because like, I just don't care anymore at this point. Notre Dame offered late. Notre Dame offered late. Like after guys didn't commit at the All-American Games. I was like a fucking. and, you know, backup. Yeah, yeah, last little piece.

Yeah. And so, Missou visits my mom's school at St. Rose. This is a week before I'm announcing. So you weren't committed. Oh, yeah. I was going to, yeah, I was going to.

I'm going to make my announcement on Tuesday before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I understand what you're coming from. But that's how it was done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a thing to get the hats in front of you, the family's being on you. And that's what we'd be in a staff beating

and I would be like, no offense. excuse my part of my French, but is this guy a douche? Oh, that hurts. So, Missou, the linebarer coach comes and visit my mom at her school. Comes to the school and visits. Logan's with me. And so we have a good time at school.

And I'm like, he's like, yeah, what, you know, who are you going to pick out of, you know, Missouri in Illinois? Because I had told my mom, look, I'm not going to Nebraska. Like, it's not going to happen because she had such a good time on the visit. My mom starts crying, like in the living room, because she wants me to go to Nebraska because she loves Bo. Nice work. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, I was just like, it's going to be Missouri, Illinois.

Plus, it's closer to home. I can be closer to home. And you know the old man. He's like, oh, you got to go. You got to, you know, don't worry about that shit. Don't worry about the in-state pressure, blah, blah, blah. So Bo calls me on the way back from Missou visiting my mom at school. Bo calls me, comp, what's up?

Comp, Daddy, what's up? You said, Daddy. No, comp Daddy. I guarantee I didn't say that. Comp Daddy, what's up? baby he's abelishing things yeah there's no way he sounds like that's the way can I do can I do uh can can you can you let me do do one more favor before you make your decision next week and it's kind of like a courtesy yes

I'm kind of like yeah sure what's up because I'm thinking what could it be and he goes I want to fly my staff down for Sunday to watch the NFC championship game and I'm bummed and I said yes like I got to do him do the favor because I'm like I'm over the in-home visits I'm over all that stuff and I'm like yeah sure coach we can do that and he's like I want to fly down, you know, Carl, the D coordinator, linebacker coach, DB, all the defensive staff. You didn't send Dobb. Didn't send Dobb wasn't, you know, stay at home, Dobb's grinding. Yeah.

And, uh, Dubs grinded. The Nebraska staff comes in that night for the NFC championship game. And I'm talking like, you know, it's like the wedding. Like everyone's vibeying in different rooms. Everyone's kind of cross-pollinating, like having the best time ever. And they walked out. It was a fun, fun time. A fun, great time.

We're teaching the old guys about the new iPhone. Like, we're playing. games in the other room. Some people watching this in championship. I can't imagine what that process was with the iPhone. Right, right. So I just got to press the button and all goes back. And Echler,

the line by our coach, he has this temporary tattoo that looks real of my name on his arm and everything else. Like, we just have a great night. Oh, you guys, you definitely said comp daddy if you got coaches with temporary tattoos. No,

I found out about that later. And so they walk out of the house and I'm like, yo, this is, I don't know where else I'd rather, who else I'd rather play for. Like, people always say pick the school,

pick this and that. And, you know, I'm always somebody who like, I picked the staff because when they left, I was like, these are who I want to play for. These guys are who I want to play for it. And from that moment, then I went Big Red.

Really? Yeah. Sweet. So the last swing was that was a home run. Because it was going the other way. There's no doubt. Yeah. You're going to Missouri.

Probably Missouri. It was probably Missouri. It was probably Missouri. He might have committed to four schools in those four days. Fuck. Hey, my freshman year, when I was redshirted, Missou waxed us.

Oh, they kicked. And I remember crawl coming over. like trust me we'll never lose to Missou like this will never happen again. Yeah. Oh, we could have had something. Well, you got offered by Nebraska. We could have had something.

Yeah, no question. Bo, what's your, what's your, what's your? Bo didn't press me like he pressed you though. Bo like he came to the school and it was awesome. I was like, he was the first head coach to come see me. So I thought that was the coolest shit ever.

But other than that, it was like, you committed really quick to Michigan. It was a couple months by like I said, all this happened in a three months period. What did they do out there in Michigan? I got that dough, baby. Did you get paid?

No, I didn't get paid. I didn't get, dude, I was. Have you, hey, have you ever? What? Have you ever slid an envelope? No. To a player? No.

Yeah, we have boosters for that. Yeah. Told you don't do that. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's no way. Any good booster stories in the tank? No, I, no. I mean, there was no one at Nebraska.

He's such a fucking liar, dude. But I love it. I love it. What do you mean? Don't, what do you mean? No, I know what I mean? No, all the years you've known me, do you think that I would pay a player?

100% I'll just I'm fucking with you I'm fucking with you I would quit before I would do that there's no way but you know what I'm talking about Because I think they'd own you

You're in LSU dude you're in the SEC No Let me tell you LSU does not cheat The fuck out Okay Now

I was with you I mean I don't know What happens I don't know if there's some We'll have Tyron Matthew on here At some point We'll ask him I mean I don't know

If there's some booster somewhere that gives You can't control that I mean can't control that, but I'm just saying, like, if you're aware of it, you know, that's all I was asking. No, no, I, I've never saw it. Okay.

But I also think that people know me well enough to know that I wouldn't want to be around that. Yeah. So, you know, they wouldn't. I mean, they wouldn't do it. I know. I believe you as a coach, you, you didn't pay any players or, you know, like, facilitate that move. But I mean, Ellis, you definitely paying people.

Come on. We're talking about the SEC, babe. We're talking high-level SEC ball. Well, I've said this. I truly believe that. this whole NIL thing. All it does is, I mean, the stuff was going on. I mean, from the boosters and all that, that stuff was going on.

So all they did was make some of the cheating that was happening legal. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. What's one of your crazier recruiting stories? Tell the porn one. I hope you guys are very much enjoying this episode of Bo Polini. Huge news from the Candidips Camp on the north coast of Homebolt County, California.

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And I walk in and all families are like the mother, a couple of some of the kids, there's aunts, there's uncles. It was just huge great room. Like this, it was like this. So like in that corner is like these high, like a high top bar and it seemed like across 50 yards way there's, you know, some couches and a TV set up. It was it was kind of a weird setup. And she's like, let's go over here, coach, and talk. And we're sitting there talking and, and we're talking about the scholarship. And I hear this noise behind me. And I'm like, nah, I can't be. And I'm just like kind of getting distracted. What kind of noises are we hearing? Paint me a picture. Can you, uh, mimic those noises? Yeah.

No. Was it like a... Try. Can you try? Or was it a male voice? There was both. There was feminine and... What the dude sound like? There were some grunts going on.

Yeah. Can you do the grunts? No. You can't. So I turn around and I'm like, I'm like, this house can't be what I think it is. I turn around and there's this big screen TV and they're back there and they're like, all they, like, watching,

They got porn going heavy. Who is they? While they're uncles. Yeah. While I'm recruiting the, they're, they're, they're, they're just sitting there half chubb. We drink and they're with each other. Yeah, they're sitting there and they're like, hey, look at that. And I'm like, and the mom kind of looks at me.

She goes, coach, ignore them. I'm like, well, it's kind of hard. Yeah. This is a little unusual. Yeah. Yeah. So that kid, go, where were you at the time? I was at Nebraska at the time.

Did he come, Nebraska? No, he didn't end up coming. Probably for the best, huh? Yeah, I don't know if I, I'd say, I don't even know if I kept recruiting it kid. Oh, really? After that, that was over. I mean, that was, that was so bizarre.

That's a weird deal. Weird deal. That's, yeah, that's fucking weird, dude. I'm uncomfortable talking about it. You're sitting there trying to recruit in the living room and you hear just pouring behind you, you know, me personally,

I don't know if I'm joining them or if I'm going to continue to recruit. You know what I'm saying? Let's catch up in a second. Then he goes, this is the uncle. So we got going on here, Yeah, that's a weird deal, man. That's a weird deal.

I was telling Will last night about, I was recruiting down in Texas. And Tim Beck and I were, I know one of them was Jamal Turner because we were going to his school, but it was either Donovan Vestel or Sionte. So we're at this other school. We walk in to see the coach.

And he's also the dean of boys, and he's sitting there. There's this kid in there looked like something from like one of the 80s movies with like Spikes. terror. Rock a Seagles loop. Yeah, like all kinds

crazy shit going on in his terror and he's getting, he's good. The coach is laying into him. Hey, Blas, you good? And about 30, you know, kids that we catch you like the last 30 seconds and the coach is like,

so get your, you know, get your shit together, get out of here. And the kid gets up and kind of nods at us as he walks by and we're like, okay, you know, so we do our visit.

Leave that school. so we knew Jamal was had a he had a like a what they call it those athletic periods so we they were having basketball practice so let's go let's go grab lunch we'll go over there and we'll get there right when basketball practice is over so we get show up at Jamal's school and we walk in and the coaches there there's head coaches out there talking and they're just finished up basketball practice and we look up and

and I see Tim Beck, he was my office, our offensive coordinator, he goes, hey, what's up, man? And I turned and I look.

It was the kid that was in the other school sitting there getting chewed out by the coach by the dean of boys. He's walking by. Tim Beck goes, hey, what's up,

man? A kid goes, hey, what's up? And Beck goes, aren't you going to Bowie? Aren't you from Bowie? He goes, no, I'm here, no. Oh, he just dipped. And he dipped from the old school

and he dipped from the old school. And he dipped from the old school. And they see. He walks in. The door closes and he sits down in class. And I'm like, Beck and I look at each other. Like,

what the hell happened? That kid was just going other school like an hour and a half ago. That is wild. The kid is left. Yeah. He was at the other. And he walked in. Was he a recruiter or anything?

Was it a just a box? Was it a recruit or anything? Or was it just a student? The quickest turnaround ever. I'm thinking, what is going on? I just sits in another class. I'm here now.

Yeah. I'm like it's a totally normal thing. He was just a regular. dude, Beck's like, hey, what's up? And they're like, they knew each other. And I turned around. I'm like, is that that guy? And he walks in. I'm like, is that that kid? And he thought you were over at Bowie. And he was like, no, I'm here, no.

Out of here. And there's walks away. God, that's awesome. He transferred. He did, he entered the portal. He just put himself in the portal. Before we get you out of here, I think it's imperative to tell the Dionne Sanders story. This was something you told me when I was. was getting recruited because I wanted to ask you about the um because you had coached um at sanfran when he was on san fran right yeah because you would talk about he would tie his hands behind his back

i was like an assistant you know i was like an assistant at that time like i was just started my first year in coaching and and uh you know people have that this misconception about dion about you know that you know because everybody saw the flash and everything i always say he thought he was a you know he was a he obviously a tremendous competitor. And, but we're in a, we're in a play, we're in the playoffs. We're in, in a meeting and, you know, we're in, we're in like a quarter's defense and you know, they run the dig.

They run the post in behind. And the safety was like a, got more of a backup, kind of a nickel guy. And he's in there. And we're like, you can't, don't be jumping to dig. You got, you know, you cover, you got the post. And he's like, I was, I was looking to get a. pick and they're like we're like no you got the post and he's like I'll be there on Sunday he goes like I was looking to get a pick here in practice we're like they and Dion turned and said you got

you got the post and you know can you know he's just the kid was just kind of yapping a little bit next thing you know Dion had him by basically by the throat up against the wall saying and so in not so kind of terms you better you better be there all the time. Yeah. You're, you're, after with our money.

You know, this is playoff time. This is a real deal. And, and it was like, you know, that when he got on the field, it was all,

you know, when it was time to play, it was all business, man. I love that. I mean, he was a, you know,

just a great competitor. And, you know, everybody saw all the dancing and all the other things, but, you know, he was,

he was a freak athlete. I mean, I was, at that time, I was just cutting my teeth and coach. I was just learning, you know, but we had some great players on that team. We won the Super Bowl that year and some great players on that team.

Fucking Blas is a big Niners guy. There you go. Yes, sir. He doesn't call us, sir. I know he doesn't. That was the heyday back then. That was when we had some dudes. Yeah.

They had some dudes. Four owners got some dudes now. Could you, yeah. Could you imagine be like, oh, I got it on Sunday? It's like, no, no. You got the post. I'll be there on Sunday and you just get somebody walks. I'm going to grab you by the throne and fucking put you against the wall.

You can be there every day, not just on Sunday. We had some great players. That's how to do. What was it like watching him and Jerry Rice on the same team? Well, Jerry Rice, you know, I mean, there's, I don't think there's any ever been another player in the history of the game that has the work ethic that guy has. you know that's the guy that runs that the mile hill or whatever yeah yeah he runs that that's that guy that runs the mile hill well i know who jerry i'm sorry i know who jerry that we talked about that at the pod that one time yeah i mean he he did it every day

and in and walkthroughs whatever it didn't matter he was the same like i don't know if i can say that about anybody else i've ever was ever run i never saw him take a lazy step i mean honestly it's crazy it's almost like like people like say that and like exaggerate. I'm not exaggerating. Never took a lazy step. No, he, he won me while, he finished,

he caught the ball and finished to the goal line and walked through us. I mean, he was taped up. OD. Yeah. Hey man, come on, man, to walk through. He's taped up and walkthroughs. Go to say that.

Oh, yeah. God, that's wild. He was going. He's one of the best ever. He is. Is he the best one of the best ever? Ever. I think he is.

I mean, taped up and walked through, running the end zone. I think in his position, he's got to be the best player. We're so soft now. You weren't. I can tell you that. I played defense.

I couldn't finish the end zone. You know what I mean? Go to the tag off. Go to the tag off. Well, you couldn't catch either either. Bullshit, dude. I was all state wide receiver. I was all state wide receiver.

I did on defense because I dropped some easy picks, bro. You have some easy ones? Easy ones. That's the way he's referring to. Yeah, like this. That's how you said. One hit me in the face. No, it didn't.

Yeah. What happened? You just went all defense? Honestly, like, I was covering this back to the, like, he came up to do an option route and I was covering him. He ran out. And so I'm just covering him. It was like the end of the game, so I didn't think the ball's getting thrown to.

You obviously never want to think that. But as I'm turning around and see if the ball gets thrown, the ball's being thrown, it just hits me in the face. So I just didn't have time to catch it. And then there was that easy layup against Wisconsin. I don't know. I don't know. I'm probably just trying to survive.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Because you're probably pissed off. even though we won the fucking game. Remember Alfonso? The year against Colorado, he gave him the touchdown at the end of the game. I mean, the game was over.

And Alfonso gave up a touchdown, basically. It was lazy on the play. But Bo comes... The game was lazy. Listen, you know... More than lazy. I was ready to kill him. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Bo comes in, and he goes, you ever fucking do shit like that again? I'll send your ass back to Georgia. No shit. Like, you finish, like, you know, finishing to the end of the game. Yeah.

Like you finish. He's just, oh, he basically took the play off. And let me tell you, Afonzo was a competitor. Yeah, he was a monster.

And I love it. It doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he really wasn't a competitor. Oh, no, but he really loved me. It was so out of character for him. And he took the play off and gave up like a,

what, like a 75-year-bomb. Yeah. But Colorado was still, you know, throwing bombs. Fuming. I didn't,

I don't even think, I don't think I, I didn't even enjoy the win. Yeah, that was one of a happy. Yeah. one of those ones where I'm like, you know, that that can't happen.

Yeah. He said, I don't even think I enjoyed the win. Was there ever a time you were mad at Will like that? No, I don't think so. So Will was pretty solid from the get-go. Other than the recruiting bullshit.

Yeah. Yeah, other than, yeah, other than he wanted, you know, got his hand out, all that stuff in the recruiting process, wanted money, you know. Yeah. Trying to get that out of the house.

Yeah. Yeah, I feel you. Well, it was good, dude. though. I like that. Yeah. Don't have any issues in the brass room? Yeah.

He was posting rap songs and stuff when he was like on his Twitter and went back to it. There's no Twitter back then. Yeah. Yeah. Dob. Lamborghini Mercy.

Your chick, she's so thirsty. No, I mean, I was pretty soft. There's one time Dobbs yelling at me because I couldn't finish a GPP. Like I'm laying on the ground legs and dead and people are pouring water on me.

And Dobbs like, oh, you think you can lead in front of 85,000, but you can't. That's the worst. The worst, bro. 6 a.m. or something like that? Yeah, I'm a freshman. Just getting dummied.

Do you guys do Matt Jills in college? We're calling Matt Drills. But you have a towel and it's like who can get the towel away from the other guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did shit like that. I got knocked out doing that in college. Really? Oh, Temple shot. Elbow. Sleeping. Did you guys do that later? You guys did that, yeah.

Bow only caught me kind of being lazy one time in practice too. And he's just like, you think you're in the fucking NFL? Showed him. Think you got a long way. He was like, who's laughing now, baby? Yeah. Oh, what's that going to the U-N? What's up?

Remember the, what was it? Look, you don't have my role. What was it? The Virginia Tech game, your freshman year? Yeah. Well, we're. Redcher freshman year, right? Reds your freshman year.

Did he start his retrofreshment year? Yeah. Oh, you started? No, this was his freshman year. Oh, freshman freshman year. And he was being redshirted during that year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we're playing Virginia Tech in our one linebacker kind of screws up a couple times.

And he's standing there and I, you know. Heck! get Compton ready. Yo, I'm standing there, bro. Oh, fuck, dude. And I turned around, I look at him, and he was looking at me. I said, you ready to go? And he's like, mm-hmm.

What part of the game was it, like, second quarter, third quarter? No, third quarter. I mean, it was cold. You're standing, your back's hurting because you've been standing for so long. Yeah, yeah. It was like the first big game, like, of Bo's tenure, because you know the first four games you're kind of playing,

like easing in end. You play a big non-conference game. That was our big non-conference game. Two years in row was Virginia Tech. and I think we, did we win that? It was like 37. But yeah, it was like, you know, you're in the heat of the battle, dude. Get confident.

I'm kind of standing there like hearing the conversation. I'm like, holy shit. Like, I might have to fucking go with. Do that thing. I almost had to go play guard my first game. Really? He has the Chiefs. Our guard gave up two sacks and like, hey, be ready to go play at guard.

And I'm like, you better give, I'm going to give up three sacks. And what are you talking about? Hey, no, you guys need to get ready for me playing guard. Yeah. It was brutal, man. first round picks not playing oh yeah couple of little beat on you said to go play guard yeah I mean you know I'm in the league it's like you had seven guys dressing or

whatever so I was like the first guy in besides center and they had me I mean I'm literally I'm a one trick point I can only play left tackle you put me at right tackle it's go ahead you can run around the edge all day long so but during camp they have me playing left right guard guard they have me playing everywhere and Andy Levitri started out it started out tough I think someone put him in a blender a couple times and it was like early in the game and he's like you're ready to go at guard

and I'm thinking myself I'm about to be out of the league before I even start my career this is going to be no one shit ever I was freaking out thankfully Andy finished the game shout at Andy La Vitry I got some garbage no he retired though so shout at Andy

yeah that was terrifying though I never was in a situation like that as a freshman though because I was like 250 getting into college I was always in the sweat suit hanging out, a little hungover, watching the game. Yeah. It was awesome.

It was a good time, man. I was, I was late to the Ohio State game my freshman year. Anyway, so that's who you were going to deal with if I went to Nebraska. It wouldn't have happened. Oh, man, I oversle. I literally ran like two miles to the stadium and showed up like 30 minutes before kickoff. We didn't make a bowl game that year. So after the game, it was like, everyone go home, never got in trouble for it.

But the looks I got during the game, it was. brutal stuff. Who was your, who was the coach when you were there? Was it, was it Brady? No, Rich Rodriguez.

Oh, okay. Rich Rodriguez for the first two years and then Brady Hook for the last three. So, I mean, we went to a Sugar Bowl one time, played Virginia Tech.

Went like in a triple overtime on a kick. Brady did a good job there. Yeah, I thought he didn't. And he was a great guy too. I really enjoyed my time with Brady. Richard, I don't think Richardo got a fair shot from the get go.

Because it was really like 90s, 80s. We want Michigan to be like that. And he came in. He's like, The dude who does a spread. Yeah, right. You know, he came from West Virginia,

and he started doing the spread. He had a lot of tools, though. He said when he started getting recruiting classes in. I mean, that's, that's what he did. He was the best at it. But, you know, yet these people hiring, but the fans might not agree with that hire.

I think from the gig that they wanted Harbaugh. From the very beginning, the whole time I was there, like, we need to get Harbaugh. I need to get Harbaugh. And now he's there, and the success rate hasn't been great. I think their first couple years are won, nine, ten games.

But last year, when we looked it up in Portnoy, It was on like two and four. Yeah. It was brutal. Stuff to win tonight. They gave an extension. What's that? Stuff to win nine and ten games on.

Not easy, is it? People think it's easy. It's not. They find out real quick. It's not. Yeah. Is Portlandian Michigan guy?

Yeah. You went to Zee was at the same time Brady was. Yeah. Both had hell of careers, man. You had a little altercation of Portnoy at HQ, didn't you? I mean, not really. I felt like he was kind of wanting some kind of altercation. He wanted the camera's run?

Yeah. So he won a little fist fight verbally? Yeah. And I mean, I saw him. Oh, what's up, boss? And I'm like, boss? Yeah, you know how I call everybody boss. Yeah.

Like, actually your boss. So I don't know. I mean, yeah. But I'm like, oh, you're here at HQ? And he's like, yeah, where else would I be? I'm like, I mean, I don't know. I've seen you in Miami a lot. Like, yeah, it wasn't a question like that.

I'm like, oh, I don't know. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm at HQ. So I'm just like, it's awesome. And then he just went to his office. Yeah, check it out on Under the Hood. Subscribe to our YouTube. But yeah, it's on Under the Hood. And then I felt him when he was walking over and I was like,

what's up, Dave. I felt like he was just like, you know, interested, looking, seeing what's up. See if he gets some content out of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. But I didn't have the boy with me. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's like, hey, it's all good. We'll sniff that out right away. Right. I'm thinking, hey, it's all good, man. They don't need to have your guard up. Like, the boys aren't here. No.

But don't know, you're safe. Yeah. Yeah, Portland is a good dude. Bo's been on a part of my take, Danny Woodhead, Vanney Woodhead. During Grit Week, he's done the pizza review with Portnoy. Oh, you've done it all, huh? I've done a couple of those things.

Yeah, they came in to do Rough and Rowdy in Youngstown, and so. Interesting look, right? Did a feature review, huh? Them Rough and Rowdies are an interesting look, right? Oh, you think? That's awesome. We were out there in Miami, dude.

It was a different little, it was a different deal for sure. Oh, it was awesome. I enjoyed it. The one guy, the one guy, What was one guy's name? They called him. I think they had him on a few other times. Raccoon boy.

They eventually, he was his kid from Youngstown. I was like, he came out of a trash kid. I was like one of the first fights I saw. I was like, I'm going to enjoy this. This is really pretty good. They keep it going too. It's not like there's a big in-between fight thing. They just like, they kick him out.

They just keep going. Guys are exhausted, just throwing haymakers over there. There's some of them, like, you can, tell. Like, they throw punches for 20 seconds and they're spent. It's all. They're done. It's over. Oh, yeah.

There's the kid coming out. There he is. There's raccoon. Yeah. There he is. There's raccoon boy. Yeah. But I think they got him to come to a couple other things.

They, like they, he ended up going to a couple other rough around. He's a rough aroundy celebrity. He was an awful fighter. Like these guys. He's trying to get out. This guy. Please have a mullet. Oh, that's him?

Yeah. That's a. A raccoon boy. How does he get out? I showed up at a wedding. He was at a wedding I was at. I was like, they were like, hey, coach, that's raccoon boy. I'm like, no way.

He didn't think this part through. Yeah. Comes out wearing a leather vest. It's not very athletic, obviously. Did he win this fight? I don't know. I think they, it was basically, they were both so tired after throwing punches for the first 15 seconds.

Oh, a glove tap. Love that. Got to bounce to him. He's playing. He's fighting ponytail, boys. Look at the ponytail boy. I hate to cut this off, but I have to leave. I don't have to cut it off.

You guys can still chat or whatever, but I have a workers' comp hearing that I got to be present for in a polo shirt. Are you thinking you're going to get some money? Possibly. Let's go with that. The old knee. You got to get the old knee, right. What I do? It's at 1245.

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