Bussin' With The Boys - Bobby Lee Talks Beef With Ken Jeong & Andrew Santino Calls Kid Rocks Bluff With Bud Light

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

Recorded: April 20th 2023 | In this weeks episode Taylor recaps the Vegas trip in his own eyes. He gives an inside look as to what he was feeling during it all as well as the vibes with all the boys a...round the table. With the draft in a couple days, Will and Taylor both get into what their draft process was like. Will being undrafted has a different perspective than Taylor who obviously was a first rounder. Following the intro, we have the hosts of the Bad Friends podcasts, Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino join Will on the bus. These two together are absolutely hilarious, they just feed off of each other and their chemistry is unmatched. This pod is all over the place ranging from Bobby trying to name football positions, Andrew recapping his time at Arizona State and them both talking about the growing comedy podcast community. Bobby tells a hilarious story of almost getting in a fight with Ken Jeong while Andrew gives his take on the Kid Rock/Bud Light saga. This pod is all over this place covering so many different things with some big laughs along the way. Strap in and enjoy the ride boys. 0:00 Intro 0:26 The Boys have missed each other 6:17 Taylor explains his FOMO for missing the Santino and Bobby Lee interview and preview the interview 18:23 The live shows got better and better throughout the tour 22:49 Taylor recaps Vegas and talks about the Vegas giveaway 36:26 The chaos going on in Colorado 49:03 The draft is this week Taylor and Will talk about their draft process and if they have stressed for the draft 1:00:33 Advice they would give current players during the draft, “nobody is coming to save you” 1:14:48 Previewing the Titans draft + Derrick Henry traded? 1:27:34 INTERVIEW STARTS 1:29:16 Bobby mentions Wills teeth 1:31:27 Bobby tries to name football positions 1:33:09 Will give Andrew and Bobby their flowers 1:34:24 Worst financial investment Will has made 1:38:24 Will's wife is from the Philippines and Bobby talks about his moms childhood bathroom 1:39:20 Bobby lets us know how Asian grading system is different 1:40:10 Bobby did meth at 12 1:42:05 Andrew went to Arizona State and gives his take on ASU sports 1:49:17 How Bobby and Andrew met 1:51:21 Story of Bobby relapsing 1:54:21 Bobby is a sweetheart and sometimes can be too giving 1:58:00 Comedy podcast community 1:59:45 Funniest Asian comedians 2:00:46 Bobby vs Ken Jeong fight 2:04:20 Bobby and Andrew's videographer has night terrors and they talk about what it's like sleeping with him 2:06:35 Andrew asks about Jeffree Star 2:07:20 Andrew thinks Kid Rock's hating Bug Light is a bit 2:14:10 How Andrew got the role in Dave 2:18:43 Pet Peeves of the week ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Spotify ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy: Head over to https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool to learn more Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://barstool.link/GametimeApp, enter your email, and redeem code BUSSIN for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply) HEYDUDE: Shop Now at https://barstool.link/HEYDUDEBSS Blue Nile: Right now, you can get $50 off your purchase of $500 or more with code Bussin at https://barstool.link/BlueNile. Duke Cannon: Use code BUSSIN10 at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 10% off your entire order Ice Barrel: Go to https://barstool.link/IceBarrelBussin and use code BUSSIN to get $150 OFFFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Let your boy get his feet wet. It's been a hole. Bustin with the boys. Yeah, yeah. Ladies gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustle with the Boys. This episode is 218. What a fucking... 17.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You got to respect those Sabbath boys. We know we are truck guys. Before you get in that, can I just say something? Good. Good to see you again, man. It's been a fucking... I mean, it's only been a week. I know, but it feels like...
Starting point is 00:02:08 I've missed you. You spend, we spend most days together the last six weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And you just kind of cold turkey it for a week. I definitely had withdrawal. And too, like, even if we're in like the same, even if we're both in Nashville, I feel like no matter what I'm thinking about you in some capacity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Whether it has to do with bus, whether it has to do with friendship, whether it has to with whatever. Life. But when you go to Canada and we're just not even around each other and I know you guys are out there. Not even experiencing the same thing. I know you guys are just out there like doing your thing. I just feel like we are in a long-distance relationship while you're out in Canada. Did you cheat on me? No.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Did you hang out with any other friends? Let me think. A whole week. It's been a week. Do you hang out with anybody? Well, we went to, we went to, we went to, I went to, I went to, I went to the movies with some of the boys. But George. Did you sit next to anybody?
Starting point is 00:02:50 He invited me. Or did you the, did you the seat space or no? No, I sat next to the crew. Okay. Must have been a packed house? Yeah, I mean, we had. There's a, like, everything was full. Everything was full of Will couldn't have a buffer.
Starting point is 00:03:02 He couldn't even sit on a row. It was that packed. Oh, my God. Hey, there is nothing better than an opportunity to rent out of theater for the boys. That is the best feeling, dude. You pack in, you talk during the previews. You don't have to do the whisper thing. You can literally just talk out loud.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Tell everybody how you feel. Oh, that was a good one. I don't know about that one. A big spook coming. A big spook, I feel like it's coming. Do we know what that movie was called? Um, I need myself. Wasn't the evil dead, was it?
Starting point is 00:03:27 I saw a preview for that. People dead rise. That was some twisted looking shit. And then also Transformers coming out with another banger, dude. Is Mark Wahlberg in it? No. He's not in this. He's not in.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Never again, brother. That's what he said. But let me just, let's, we have a lot to unpack. Speaking of Transformers. Yeah. The Chevy Silverado damn near looks like one. Dude, do you know we're truck guys through and through? The Chevy Silverado has been a partner with unstoppable grit and determination.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It has been the most valuable truck. That's the MVP, ladies and gentlemen. and now the first ever all electric silverado joins the franchise we got a chance to see these things and experience it and it is a game changer we're out there in colorado tell us about it literally let me drive it they said who wants to drive you will and i i do like to get behind a steering wheel and see what i'm working with here the thing sounds like a goddamn spaceship you you legit think it's a UFO ripping around there you put that thing in reverse and i'm like you can't really hear yourself doing anything no it's like one of those um like a deprivation tank like you're just there
Starting point is 00:04:26 with your own senses. That's really what it is. The thing, by the way, if you're wondering, you want to get yourself an EV, available 400 mile range GM estimated on a full charge over 10 feet of length in the bed with a multiflex tailgate combined with the multiflex midgate. You're thinking to yourself, Taylor, what is a midgate? To be honestly, I'm not 100% sure, but I do know that when you're in the bed of that truck. It's 30. Literally, if you wanted to, go from the bed back to the seats back and forth, moving back and
Starting point is 00:04:51 forth. It's a nice little deal. Very sturdy tailgate. Very sturdy. Large 17-inch diagonal displays. screen. That's a lot of screen, ladies and gentlemen. It can tow up to 10,000 pounds of max towing zero to 60 and under 4.5 seconds with wow mode. That's that's Will's 40 time, dude. Wow mode. It's a working title. It's a working title for sure. Up to an impressive 785 foot pounds of torque. Those of you wondering what torque is, I'm not going to explain to you because to be 100% honest. I really don't know what torque is. So if somebody in these comments at the YouTube
Starting point is 00:05:28 Can you explain it? I feel like you can explain what torque is. You're a police officer. I have no idea what torque. Dude, if you're in the military, you should know what torque means. Why? I feel like you just got to know what torque is. You're probably the manliest dude on this bus. I know what feet per second is.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I know. The military is. I know muscle velocity. I know feet per second muscle velocity. That sounded cool when you said that. I wish you weren't leaning into Jack's laugh when you said it though. That was like kind of uncoolity. but everything else was really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Correct me if I'm wrong in the comments, but I feel like torque is just essentially like the acceleration you have right off the jump, like the rip, you know? Oh, it's the rip. Not a lot of give. Like that thing gets me going. I like that too. I hope you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah. I do hope you're kind of wrong. It's sort of. Hold on. Before you do that, before we get into torque, well, there's more torches. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's your start time. Hold on, Will.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Head over to Chevy.com to learn more. That's Chevy. Calm. with an O, not a U. I feel like that's acceleration, not torque. All right, hang it. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:29 What is torque? Tork is a measure of the force that can cause an object to rotate about an axis. Just as force is what causes an object to accelerate in linear genesis. All right. It's a measurement of your car's ability to work. It's essentially like the amount of force to take, like, like can make the wheels spin, if that makes sense. So you got...
Starting point is 00:06:55 So I was right. Right. Well, I think so, right? I don't know. You're able to... The more torque, the greater amount of a power... Your engine has a lot of... The more power and engine can produce.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Your car can accelerate more quickly when the vehicle is beginning to start. That's... I think that's exactly what I say. Yeah, I think so. It's an idiot's term. No, no, not an idiot. I believe it's called layman's term.
Starting point is 00:07:19 But I would say a cool jack term. Yeah. Yeah. Torque is free to stop. Torch is free testosterone, Taylor. Yeah, torque is testosterone, which the Chevy Silverado has all of it, dude. The thing, go back to that real quick. It literally just says simply put, torque is a measurement of your car's ability to do work.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And we all know unstoppable grit and determination equals work, dude. So, Chevy's got it all, brother. Yeah, Chevy does have it all. What an ad read. What an ad read, dude. Dude, a lot to go over. A lot of vibes. Vives are super high right now.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Do you want to... Where do we start? What do we talk about you? the FOMO with Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee? The vibes were high until 4.5 seconds ago. Just under 4.5 like the Chevy EV. Zero to 60. Zero to 60.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Taylor called me. Hold on. Hold on. Before you, yes. When I was a child, a young boy, obsessed with comedy, I would always be on Comedy Central, not only for the girls gone wild videos late at night, but I was also on there for Mad TV. And Bobby Lee was on Mad TV,
Starting point is 00:08:21 and I used to laugh, cackle even, at the videos in that house, dude, of him putting skits together, such a funny individual. And then who was the other? Andrew Santino. Big fan of him as well, but that's like a more of a newer fandom.
Starting point is 00:08:36 That's a newer fandom for me. Obviously discovered him when he was on Dave. And the guy, I've seen a couple of, is it bad friends podcast that they do? Bad friends. Brother, that shit is,
Starting point is 00:08:44 you just see the clips on that thing. I guess I'm a tier three of that podcast. It is fucking funny. It is a very, very funny podcast. The way they do the back and forth. I saw a clip of them doing 9-1-1 calls, like doing improv 911 calls on each other. Have you seen Andrew Santino mocking Bobby Lee's mom?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yes. I'm Bobby Mota. He's got the cross-line. I think he's so funny. I'm Bobby Mota. Dude, yeah, so tell me about it. I want to fucking put that in there because there was a lot of. Taylor calls.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Taylor calls later in the day and goes, brother, give me one word that's, he's like, I have so much fun of him, but just give me one word that described the podcast. And I was just like, incredible. You kid you. That's a pod you can't hold in.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I feel like their dynamic is one of the best dynamics in the game. And I'm saying one of the best because I'm not thinking of others right now. But, dude, the wit that Sanct, just the chemistry that they have with each other. Like Bobby, you can tell I had no clue my man was smoking meth or doing meth at 12 or 13 years old. Oh, yeah. A lot to unpack with Bobby Lee. That's how you become funny. Is by just doing hard drugs.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, because I was like, he grew up in Sandy. I was like, brother, I thought you did like better drugs out in San Diego. Like meth is something that, you know, the small town just fucking people trying to get up to them. Yeah, but San Diego is right next to TJ. And TJ anything goes. TJ is Tijuana, Mexico. That's where the donkey shows are. That's where when people hear you hear about the fear of going to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Right. That's T. Right. Yeah. I know when we were in the holiday bowl, the cops would stand up there and just, they would, everybody would be super strict. Yeah. You cannot go to Tijuana or you're going to be shipped home on a bus. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:18 ASAP. Yeah. If we can even find you. It's also where that Raider Center went and celebrated the, the Super Bowl win before the Super Bowl was even played. One fact, no. In fact, there's a guy for the Raiders, offensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He, like, got so fucked up, went to Tijuana, and was celebrating their Super Bowl win, and they didn't even, haven't played yet. They were in the Super Bowl. I, you had to look up that guy's name in a second,
Starting point is 00:10:39 because I, I, that's a fucking wild story. So these two guys come on, and the way you explained to me is you just kind of sit back and let the boys roll. Taylor,
Starting point is 00:10:47 I'm telling you, I came on here. You might say one thing, but they're drawing each other pretty much the entire podcast. Yeah. Like, I might just throw a question or just say something, and then they'll go, they'll just go back and forth with each.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You were the mediator in a debate. Essentially, yes. Essentially, yeah. Your boy, you know, I got bit by some bugs, and fucking Bobby was a clown. It was on top of me. You know, I took a bold move by wearing a backwards hat. And I was thinking about it beforehand because JP was like, you're going to wear that hat on the pot?
Starting point is 00:11:10 I was like, man, I was really thinking about it. Because I had the, can you kind of see where the spots were? Yeah, yeah, I can see it. So I had my hat like this and this one boy was poking out. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I think I'm just going to rock with it. And then Bobby just hits me. He said something about like, what your friend think up there?
Starting point is 00:11:27 I don't know. Just fucking, oh, no. Dude, a Zit shirt brings you back to that middle school traumas. Yeah. I used to just get them on my nose, dude, and people would call me Rudolph. And it was a fucking, you'd go in the bathroom and talk to yourself a little bit. It was a fucking tough. They were about it, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And then Santino, he claims to be self-proclaimed internet guy, keeps up with the internet. And he was like, I got to know about your boy and Jeffrey Starr. Yeah. And I know. That was going nuts. He did say that. with stuff. And he was asking, but he's like, I know, I wish you was here. Like, where is he? I was like, oh, he's in Canada. I was trying to say, like, how much fun on how much of a
Starting point is 00:11:58 fan you are. But they're just, I'm telling you, bro. You know, as long as you were trying to give the message. Yeah, I was like trying to, like, he's in Canada. I want to go back to the Jeffrey Starr thing. Dude, it was awesome. When it comes to Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey Star thing, I know the way you like to play the game. Like, oh, yeah, he fucked him. Like, did you go that route or like, what's the deal? It depends on how JP edits the podcast because I explain the story and then after the pot, I go, should we just cut that middle part and just, you know? You say, like, so was that real?
Starting point is 00:12:24 And then it just cuts to me saying, like, you think. He's like, oh, he fucked him. But there's a lot in between that we discussed. Like, I basically told the story. We're just trying to determine right now if we're going to either. Oh, he said we cut it out to make it funny or just cut it out total? You cut it out to make it seem like, yeah, they're fucking perfect. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And I knew that when Will said, we were on the phone for like maybe five minutes and I was like getting to Taylor's Grandparents House. I know you had to go. I was bombed. I wanted to tell me about it. You could feel. But we get to have our conversations now, which is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Because a lot of times we have these conversations, we get back on the bus, and it's like, Will and I feel awkward, like reliving the same conversation. We had five minutes ago. And I got to give the same reaction. The same enthusiasm. But you did say the Jeffrey Star thing, and I was like, I got to go, man. But I hung up the phone. My first thought, those two walked away thinking I was gay.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Cool. Whatever, man. Do what you want type of mentality, right? If you're a tier one, obviously we'll have the clip to have fun with. But if you're a tier one and you're listening to the pod right now, everybody kind of knows the inside joke. We get to play into the inside joke. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But, yeah, it was awesome, though, bro. It was a great time. And they fuck with the bus. They said this was like their favorite studio that they've been on. Well, it's a cool studio. It's a very unique studio. And they're like whenever you guys get out to L.A., we'll have you guys on the pod too.
Starting point is 00:13:31 We got to go to L.A. And they were awesome, man. I wish we could have went to their live show. They're torn around doing their podcast live show. Santino does 20. Oh, you went? Being Gare went. Was it awesome?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Gere and I. So from us being on spring tour for six weeks, it was, we got a lot of good notes from their live show. but they did about an hour of stand-up between three of them, and then they did one hour of the full live show. And, man, they are dialed in. They did a really good job of just segments and always, like, never-leaving Dead Space.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Hats off to them and, like, the whole production team. And they were super nice to us. They had us back after the show. We were hanging with them all around 4.5 on the show. Oh, nice. That's a good rating. Do you have any, how did their live show compared to our live show? Look, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Oh, I. that's all I need to hear. Time out, time out. Let's give some context here. Taylor and I are, we are not professional comedians. But we're working towards it. When you're watching, you're obviously thinking it's so hilarious and like all the boys got a lot of work to do.
Starting point is 00:14:29 We do, it's not like we go full bore in on, I mean, sometimes we try and just be funny, but we're not like professional comedians. Like, they're in a different league. The best way I can describe it is we are AAA ball right now and they're the big leagues. And that's not a disrespect. I would almost put us at double A. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Triple A is a strong one. Single A. Who knows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's also a couple of boys injecting in her ass. There's a couple cats, though. There are a couple cats in double A, AAA, AAA ball that have a lot of promise
Starting point is 00:14:57 and that are going to make it up to that big league one day. And that's us. Oh. Like, we have the potential. But when you go and you watch a professional league game, you realize that there's some more factors that play and they've been around the league for a little bit longer. So we have, like I said, me and Garrett took some notes.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Like, we've got some work to do, but I think our shows are going to make it too. that level. The thing is that that fans get out of their show is that they get to watch them both do stand up before they do the podcast. Like I can't, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:30 I don't know if you're going to watch it, but you should definitely, I know we do our interest for about 30 or 40 minutes, skip and watch the interview segment. Like the way they are. Like, it was like a bad friend's podcast and I was just sitting here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Didn't you feel that way? Yeah, I mean, there'd be times where they would just be riffing back and forth. Yeah. You wouldn't say a word. Or there'd be times where you and Andrew would be talking about sports and Bobby Lee would literally be asleep in his chair. Yeah, he would just act like he's just dozing off.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Pretending to be asleep? He just doesn't fuck with sports. That meth mind, dude. Sometimes they just had to take naps for no reason. Dude, I can't wait. They get a bad rap for being lazy. No, dude, they're just recharging the batteries. I can't wait for you to be a part of it next time because I feel like you and Bobby
Starting point is 00:16:08 Lee would have a fun dynamic. You know, I think it's an interesting dynamic. I'm putting myself in your shoes, sitting with two individuals that know each other so well that are chirping. And I don't know what you would think. I would partially think, man, maybe I should chirp too, but then it's like, well, I don't really know them like that. They don't know me like that.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So where is my line? Because your line's going to be way different than their line. Yeah. And you're sitting there. You just, they're so funny. And again, they obviously chirp the line with each other. Yeah. With the ginger and the Asian stuff and everything else.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And you're like, do I touch that? I know. Like Bobby Lee fart at one time. I tried to get out. Oh, it smells like sweet and sour. But they're just fucking going back and forth. I don't ever hear it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You don't know. Yeah. You don't know what I mean? Maybe people can catch that. If you guys see it just here, there's two farts Bobby Lee did. It was the second part. The thing that I think we need to realize when we're with those people is like, just try. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It looks stupid. It's okay because we're not, we're not, we don't know what we're doing up here. They made me do an Asian accent. How to go? I think it was solid. I was like, A row? So you just went south part. That was it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 No, that's Team America. But yeah. The same creators. You're right. You're right. That was stupid. You all? Dude, but what a fucking, that seemed like an awesome fucking time, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's a good time. And literally, while we're having this conversation, I'm thinking, myself, we're doing a whole podcast today, just the two of us. Really, we're doing an intro right now, right? Because it comes out tomorrow. Hey, any bad friends listeners that came to check out this pod? Welcome to Bustin with the boys. You will fucking love it here as well. Yeah. We need some locker room talk. Good vibes. Yeah, yeah. We are good vibes. We're up and down.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. Oh, no. We argue. We have great banter. We argue back and forth. The vibes are high. We champions. You got to argue sometimes. Welcome. Make sure you're subscribe. Leave comments, but we're here for the, we're here for the good time. Rough C's never made a skilled sailor. So it's good that we in rough seas or calm C's never made a skilled sailor. So that's like you, that's when we, you know, when we get after the two of us, like a little fight we had that one time. Which fight? The one where the little pushing match, where I choked you and you bodyed me.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I'm trying to take advantage of a man. I was going to say, we low-key, we argue quite a bit. Do we? I feel like we'd like to be right. And if we kind of disagree, we argue in and out of five guys, that's a prime example. I would say, yeah, but that's just a story, an argument as old as time itself. Fair, but I think you and I, you and I argue more on this podcast than we do in real life. Because when we argue in real life, we literally sit and take the time to figure out each other's like what both of our perspectives are and then actually figure it out.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I think we argue more outside the pod. You think so? Yeah. Nah. Nah. Fuck yourself, dude. I'll just try to disagree and start something like, no, I think we are. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Fuck you, dude. But yeah, it seems like an awesome time. You were talking about dynamic duos. And when you said that, I started thinking the ones in my head. I think Brian Callan and Chris Alia. having good rapport with each other. And they were traveling when they were torn around with each other. Also, Theo Vaughn, fuck Theo Vaughn,
Starting point is 00:18:50 but Theo Vaughan and Chris Dealia also have a great report. You want to know what sneaky dude? I feel like because I watched the pod since that's where, well, that's when the beef officially kicked off. But Theo Vaughn and Caleb Presley, I think have a very good dynamic. Yeah. Very good dynamic.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Very funny individuals. They should look at, look, he doing a pod together, like legitimately. But you know, Caleb, you don't know, know, he's just kind of, Caleb is truly a mercenary. Yeah, but I'm telling you, he clicks with Theo. Yeah. He clicks with like, Theo's just like, they're, they're boys. And you can tell they have like similar sense of humor. Um, but yeah, outside of those dynamics, I know Bobby Lee and Theo also have a good one. But Bobby and Santino, bro, I can't wait for
Starting point is 00:19:31 everybody to listen to the pot. Yeah, it sounds like a fucking awesome time. I think I'm gonna add theirs to the, to the old library. I've seen their clips like you, I'm a tier three, but I think I might just listen to their shit weekly. A couple of times. Yeah, I, give a couple of goes. Yeah, Give a couple of go, see how it happens. Because those podcasts, if it's anything like congratulations, it's like there's going to be times where you're laughing real hard and then other times you're kind of like
Starting point is 00:19:50 waiting for them to figure out where they're at. Because I feel like comedians just work on their bits on the podcast and kind of try to feel it all out. Yeah. Which is exciting to see. I also want to go back to the live show thing. The live shows are over. But I do believe that Will and I got better each week.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I think Colorado was our best one. Yeah. And feel free, Jack. You can interject at that. You got the mic. Mitch, If you guys feel any differently, I thought Colorado went really well. Yeah, it did go well.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Perfect. All I need to hear. That's fucking that. And now we'll hit you at the podcast. Colorado was good. I loved all of them. We started talking about it last week. We felt like the best party time or the best night out and overall a show was Texas, Austin, Texas.
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Starting point is 00:22:25 We're done. What were your favorite ones? I thought Texas was awesome. Do go go facilities, then just overall experience. Well, I heard you guys had that conversation in the last. Actually, that brought up something. I want to, hey, Garrett, I want to thank you for getting on Will about bodying me on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:44 that I wasn't on. Those first 30 minutes, brother. You're welcome. I was open season on Ola Wong. I know we took an L, but we weren't going to take an L without you. I fucking appreciate that. I had to stand up. The game was on me.
Starting point is 00:22:57 The game was on me. You guys did everything right. You two, if I got fired as a head coach, I would hope to God that that team would retain you guys for how well you guys did and showed the progress. We would have left. We would have resigned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah, fair enough. Like we said before, we win as a team. We lose as a team. Right. Yeah. And it's on coaching. That being said, our boys didn't want to play.
Starting point is 00:23:17 No, not at all. You know, it was, it's on coaching. But you think so our boys didn't want to be there, dude. Spring games,
Starting point is 00:23:22 son was out. They were thinking about Mill Avenue. You know? Yep. The tight end, he scores. He takes my watch. I hand him the watch.
Starting point is 00:23:28 He puts it on. I got Wilcocton's house on my wrist. The downfall, the watch. The watch was the downfall. You know. That was a big play. That was a big play.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, I got nervous when they asked us that we wanted to talk to him because I knew you have, you have, you have a, what is it? You have experience when it comes to playing a coach. You've done Mike Brable a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So I knew Willis would come with some heat. I thought, I just got to go eight mile body bag to this motherfucker and try to get out. Guy didn't really have a whole lot and a lot of experience doing that. You're talking about the pregame speeches. And obviously it bled into. It was a fun game. It was enjoyable. But I do think our boys weren't there to play.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Our boys were there to get through the day. Yeah, absolutely wild to say this is Will Compton's fucking house on the dress. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that was wild. Crazy. Hit him with one of those right there. That little piece right there. It's like a little Compton in that fucking Maroon team.
Starting point is 00:24:14 This is this, this is his house on my wrist right here. No, you didn't catch you, but I'd say they didn't make these in Maroon. I thought that was a nice one too. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but a lot of shit, dude, it was a great, it was a great time. Arizona was awesome. But before that, boys, I mean, the vlog, the vlog of Vegas is officially out.
Starting point is 00:24:30 This comes out Tuesday. Obviously, it comes out, uh, comes out tonight, which is Monday. Which vlog are we talking here? The vlog of me absolutely putting the ski mask over my head and taking down Vegas for everything it's worth right now. Things are going well to quite well. Too well. Things are too good right now. You can tell there's a massive drop off about to happen eventually. And so your boys will be back out there May 24th. We're going to fly some fan out of Bustle with the Boys. A fan of of Bustle with the Boys is going to be able to come and gamble with me and Dana in that private room.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I believe from what I saw on Dana's comments on his post is that he is going to spot the individual. So literally you're playing with house money. We're talking about big time fucking dollar bills. Go and get what's yours with me. Dana, we will have some sort of thing, how you can enter, whether it's subscribing to the podcast or following Power Slap. Then that evening, after we were done with gambling or before that, we will be at the Power Slap event.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Those of you who think Power Slap's, I see the comments, oh, Power Slaps not a real sport. It is fucking entertaining. Yeah. Any way you want to slice it, dude, watching a gentleman hold a stick behind his back and it absolutely slumped. That's fucking TV boys and girls.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's reality TV at its finest. It is doing numbers like crazy. If you guys want to be haters on it, go ahead and be haters on it. But we have an absolutely once in a lifetime situation coming up that I hope one of you, I hope all of you get into it. And we are to choose one of you to have truly this amazing experience. It's going to be awesome. But we said he's spotting.
Starting point is 00:26:00 From what I saw, JP and I were talking about before the podcast. Sounds like I need to figure out I can get in. Yeah. I was thinking about it. I was like, bro. How do I get one of the boys in like that? I think you need to try it one time. Yeah, I'll do with Dana Spotting.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Brother, like, there's just no... There's no way. Like, you've won a couple times down. I'm like, fuck, man. If I can just get in on that same kind of hand and shit like that. It's been... Because it just doesn't always go that way. Well, I went down.
Starting point is 00:26:25 If I'm ever down, tens of thousands of dollars, I'm fucking sick. Yeah. Brother, but there is... I'll tell you what. Here's the positive about what happened in Vegas is... I got down 50,000 in a hurry. $50,000. There'd be a gun to my head.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I looked at Dana and I go, Dana, what's going on? He goes, give him 30. And he bet 30. I guess I ended up betting 30. And we end up winning. I get 30. I put two hands down of, I get 30. Data's like, you won a 30, right?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Then the greed hits and I'm like, let's do one more. Let's try to get 60. It ended too quickly. Yeah, he puts two. The whole video is three minutes and 46 seconds. That's how long I was gambling for. Isn't that fucking wild? He puts down two hands, $15,000 each because my max is like 20 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So they had to, we had to split in two different hands. And I end up winning that. Get the 60. Shook, in his hand, he was about to get on a flight to go to Kansas City because the flight at UFC was in Kansas City. We go upstairs. The boys are hype. I got the money stacked on the table in that beautiful suite that Red Rocks hooked us up with.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We've cracked open a bottle of Claus Azul. The boys dummy that bottle in 10 minutes, which is almost. three times the amount of time I was gambling. We go back downstairs. I tell him, hey, and this was not filmed, but this is the thing that, like, I woke up the next morning and I was like, all right, I can understand how dangerous this can get.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We go downstairs. The boys are kind of playing. The waitress is just on us, dude. Giving us shots back and forth. The boys are drinking full big, like, double shots of tequila. Clausazoole still. And we're smacking them, having a great fucking time. JP goes and plays, what does he play the the uh plays like the like the digital roulette
Starting point is 00:28:09 yeah jp's playing digital roulette by himself and it's just it's me Mitch Jack and garrett sitting at the table JP comes back and the way he explains it is like he's not looking at the same human beings anymore we're shit face drunk at this point dude it is no longer like the same human beings he walked into the casino with
Starting point is 00:28:25 hit we get yeah we get split yeah so seven you split that so I take out a couple thousand dollars I'm playing with house money I'm feeling pretty good about it but every once in a while and I hope I love for to hear your guys perspective on this too, but every once in a while, I'd be like, hey, boys, take your, take your money off the table. And I would go toes and I have like $1,000 and I would just boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 00:28:43 win three, four hands, get up $10,000, put it back. And I would go back to playing my $100 hands. Now, you guys will have a chance to speak in a second. The last, the ending of the night, I have like, I don't know, what was it, a couple thousand bucks. And I end up just fucking winning and winning and winning to the point. And I'm drunk. And I'm looking at these, they hand me three chips.
Starting point is 00:29:05 and I'm looking at these chips. I'm like looking at it as if like I'm an 80 year old man trying to see what number is. And the guy looks at me and touches my shoulder he goes, sir, those are $25,000 chips. I want another $75,000. So I won, what is that, $135,000 in that night. And it's just, it's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I end up going to sleep. I wake up the next morning. I have all this money and everything feels good. But the same time I'm thinking, man, this is how they get you. You got to be smarter. It obviously worked out, but fuck. that could have been a crazy negative deal. So where's your gambling career going from here?
Starting point is 00:29:41 I've scared myself straight a little bit. Like I'm, I will go, I'm going to go with Dana and ride this as long as I can. On film, we won 40 that night, the second night, the first time we went when you were there.
Starting point is 00:29:51 We went 40 that night, 40 the second night. But only 40 was filmed. And then 60. So I'm up 100 being filmed right now. $100,000. And what overall, you're up to $100,000.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Overall, over $200,000 up right now. And that, this feeling now to me is more scared than excited. Like, hang on, hang on. Let's back. Let's reel that in. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:16 The reason why. Over $200,000. And I'm scared. You don't have to go back. I know. I know. I know. But Dana calls me, Dan is like, brother.
Starting point is 00:30:24 We're scared now. Like, hang on. He calls me. He's like, brother, we got to see how long you can keep this going. And I'm like, there's going to be a time where I'm going to, I'm, eventually I'm going to lose 200 grand. Now, here's the positive. If I lose 200 grand,
Starting point is 00:30:34 next time we go, even. Even. That's what I'm saying. You can almost just do this cushion. Yeah, we're playing cushion right now. I did see a cool fucking video of Steve will do it. Gambling in a nice tub in that same room. And I called my dude. I sent him a voice text, Joe from Red Rock.
Starting point is 00:30:48 So I was like, hey, brother, I don't want a cold tub when I'm gambling, but I would love a cold tub in my room next time. Gets me back. Anything for you, Mr. I was like, they're going to get me, brother. They're going to get me. It's scary. Whatever you need.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I'd love to hear like your guys's perspective on that night. That was a fucking wild night. The second time when you got up to 75,000, I don't know if you want to get into it, but I remember you were kind of bummed out that you won that much because you actually ended up losing something as well. I don't know if you want to get into that. Yeah. I don't know if.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Dude, so I did. There's a lot of gray area with me and Jack right now because I said if I want a million. I know. I have a video. I have a video of it. Like that's like five minutes long of the entire interaction. And it is absolutely hilarious. Dude, I go, if I went over, I ended up being, if I went over $100,000, I'd get Jack of Rolex.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Oh. And I went up. I did not propose this bed. Taylor just out of nowhere. I'm a giver, brother. He goes, if I went 100K goes, I'm buying you a Rolex. No, I don't know if that's, I think you went, yo, if you went over 100K, Taylor, can I get this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 No, 100% not. Okay, one, Mitch, you weren't even there when this happened. So you're just lying. A video of it. Yes, but this was before we even started gambling earlier in the day. You have that quote on film? I have, yeah. I have something like it.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, earlier before. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Before we were in gambling, Taylor was right. And I was fired up. If I win 100K, it was when we were in the airport going from Denver to Vegas. Yeah. It was like, if I went 100K, he goes, I'm going to get you a Rolex.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And at that point, we're like, you know, we're just having fun. But then on the second. Then it became a reality. When it was me, Taylor, Mitch, and Garrett, we get close to that. Mark and I think you were like 98,000 you're up and then it sets in everyone's like hey that's what it was you may have reminded him yeah yeah yeah and then jack remembers that shit then taylor he intentionally puts in a couple of hands i was like you have to bet one more hand at least because at 98,000 he was like i'm done he's like i'm below 100k you're not getting the
Starting point is 00:32:55 rollette yeah yeah and i'm like i'm just you make 110 by the Rolex you're down yeah i'm down under 100. You were going to bet the hands for them. I'm screaming. I'm like, no. Like, you have to fucking bet. I'm like, April, tell him. He has to bet.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And they're like, yeah, you can bet. They were amazing, dude. Red Rocks is truly the Piscocino of all time. But so he ends up going over. I think you're like, a hundred and two or something. Yeah. I'm going to bet one more. Last one to try and go under.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. And for some reason, I can't remember the hand, but you end up winning like 12K on his hand. Because I had a double. You had a double. And you couldn't. lose and you're like, I've never been more upset winning money in my life. Yeah, I was hot,
Starting point is 00:33:35 dude. So hot. You bought Jackarola. No, I need to buy, I need to buy Jackerola. But I'm holding his as collateral right now. Holding my watch is collateral. We should make a blog out of that. I would love that. Go to the store, let you pick one out. Under a certain price. Get one of those stainless steel ones.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It'll be a Rolex, brother. It'll be, I do owe you a Rolex. I will pay for Rolex. I'm done doing a, but but I feel like I can't just get you one. I have to fucking get the boy something too. Brother, I don't need a Rolex. Taylor's first time going
Starting point is 00:34:12 when we were all there in Vegas for the Oh, bro, you're such a cuck for telling this story right now. Taylor, I forget what the number was. It might have been, I don't know what it was. I said if I win 50. Yeah. If I knew 50 that, yeah. It would end up getting over 50 for the second night. Yeah, because I don't know if it ever came back up.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But Taylor's like if I went over 50, I'm and all the boys. There was some kind of watch. No, I said, I'm going to get the boys something nice, or at least give them cash or something like that. Yeah, but there was a talk of, yeah, there was some certain kind of watch.
Starting point is 00:34:39 We were talking, we were talking in Vags though, because I remember sitting at the table, we were playing A.C. Doocy with Marcus and Ben and all them. And, uh, saying, if I went over 50, I got, I got to do something for the boys. And you're like, oh, that's nice of you, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then you go, but what about me? Yeah. Got up winning it. But I did, I got the boys, I get the boys cash. I get, we went upstairs, slap down 5K for the boys. you guys. Go crazy. Go crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Do your thing. Put that thing on black. And I think, bro, and here's another thing that's crazy about Vegas is that night when we were all drinking, nobody lost. On every, every single person at that table won money. There's a couple times, Mitch was on his last couple pennies, and I took a hundred, put it over there,
Starting point is 00:35:19 and all of a sudden he'd go, boom, boom, boom, be up 500. It was just, it was it was an experience. I'd Vegas to its knees, dude. I was asking questions the entire time. I had no idea what the hell was doing. Yeah, he was his first time playing blackjack. like Kevin was helping me out to obviously Taylor and like Garrett was helping me out as well.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Jack was helping it was like the team effort. April was helping me out like I had no idea what I was doing and like the more and more drunk I got it just kind of didn't help it all and I was like I got more confidence. I was like I'm going to do this instead. Yeah. It burned me sometimes but it also helped me out sometimes. There was a couple times Mitch had like 15 and the dealer was showing like an eight and I go Mitch you're going to bust but you got a hit.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And so he'd hit, he'd bust. I'd win and the dealer would bust or something would happen. The theme of the night or the saying was just for the greater good. For the greater good, dude. It was like if you're thinking about a vibe, like a Vegas experience, that truly was like maybe the greatest Vegas experience I've ever had. We checked a lot of boxes. A lot of boxes, dude.
Starting point is 00:36:18 A lot of fucking boxes. It was awesome. But I really do think maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but you got to do it once. In what capacity? I mean, we could take it and then just, fucking I'll dumb it down to like a different world. Yeah, you can do $5,000 hands instead of $10,000 hands. And try to win four.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah, I mean, we should do that. We should absolutely do that. It's a wild fucking deal. It's a wild deal. Well, let's talk about some. What else? What other boxes can you check? I can check this Game Time box, dude.
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Starting point is 00:38:16 many players have either entered the transfer portal or decommitted. From Colorado? From Colorado, since the spring game this past weekend. I wonder why. Is there anything that Dion said? I've been looking around. I haven't seen anything. There's nothing like coming outside of the organization that's like pointing towards
Starting point is 00:38:33 this, but when you have this many big guys leave or decommit, it feels like something might be going on. I don't know. Maybe those guys aren't Louis. Big news for Nebraska coming up in the fall. You know, maybe. I wish they had a loaded team because we're still going to whip that ass in week two. But that's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:38:53 That's how I feel. We had a good thing. We didn't have a terrible one tweet the other day. Really? Yeah, it was that picture. He says, love y'all two life. Do what now? Dion, he had a LeWon tweet.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It said, love y'all two life, instead of four life. It was nice to see. What goes on? What goes on? Yeah, what goes on in your guys' brains when you guys do stuff like that? You just know what you're trying to say and you kind of just tweet it out real fast. And then, you know, you look at it or you get a text from you. And it's like, brother, it's this, not this.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I'm like, uh, the worst feeling is, hang on. Hang on, I do want to correct. I never come at you like that straight and narrow. No, no, no, no. You do. But it's not, it's not like a negative thing. Yeah, like if I, if you are, if you're, if you're like trying to do some, whether it's a giveaway or something like that, that is where I will try. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you got to get on that quick. Yeah, if it's something that you're just normally doing, just out in the wall and you're tweeting, you'll see me in the comments for sure. And that hurts worse. I saw the boys in the comments when I, when you did your anniversary shout out and I was like, I know. What is it? The crop god. The crop god back at the year. Literally before I even saw your guys's comments, healing goes, what the fuck are you doing with these pictures, man? And I like, show him. And I'm, and I'm, like, show him.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'm thinking like, bro, I looked at it. I'm like, how the fuck do you make it bigger, bro? I was like, literally looking at my phone this close, trying to figure it all out. Whatever, dude. Whatever. Do you want those players to go to Nebraska? No, I mean, if they're good, yeah, absolutely. Like, if those are solid players, I see a four-star cornerback, yeah, we'll take him.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. I don't know. I know nothing about these players. Maybe they just weren't about it. Maybe they weren't about the culture. Maybe they weren't Louis. Yeah, maybe they weren't Louis. Maybe they weren't built on that discipline that he preaches and wants and everything
Starting point is 00:40:35 like that. Who knows? I have fucking no clue. I will look into that. It is an outstanding week, dude. The NFL draft is in two days. I know. The boys are going up to New York.
Starting point is 00:40:44 We're going to HQ. Get that whole thing done. That'll be a fun time. That'll be really fun. Every time you go to HQ, it's a really good time. I'm anxious. I'm anxious to sit there as a fan and watch. First time.
Starting point is 00:40:54 This is probably the first time you've watched a draft not stressed. No. I haven't watched the draft stress the last. I didn't last year. Oh, yeah, that's true. Year before that, where was that the year before that? So last year was nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Year before that, Raiders. Yeah. But you didn't go there until the middle of the season, right? But the year before that was Titans. Yeah, the next year, you're hoping that the team doesn't take a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Right. Because that's when Hazel was still there. Haslett. Yeah, and I see it's hoping the team doesn't take a linebacker because you're like, okay, well, they'll still need, they can still need a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. You kind of wish, and you just wish that the Titans would get their head out of their ass. You see them signing up. bunch of white linebackers and it's like the best one's sitting right next to me. I know. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:38 He knows him right down the street. But he knows I'm not available until November, December. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. He wants guys to throw bought in from the get-go. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. You're going to need that too with the roster they got going on over there. Yeah. Yeah. Because who have they signed? I've seen the Neiman. He's a solid little backer. Now I did shoot him.
Starting point is 00:41:56 We have the same agent. I had to seek out his number when I was on, when I was on the Raiders because he held me on my first punk coverage coming back. When we were at the chiefs, he held me and tackled me and I didn't get the flag. I ended up throwing up my hands and everything else. Yeah. But I ended up getting his number just to text him and let him know, like, hey, I just want you know, I filmed the fucking iPad.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah. And just to let him know, you held me on this. It's always a tough photo when you got the arm coming out because it makes the arm looks so much smaller. Yeah, the dude looks kind of sick right there. Yeah, but look at his right arm. His right arm looks fucking juicy. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:26 That left one looks like, you could tell which army beats with. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man's been putting an extra work on that right hand. Let's get amidextrous, brother. because that's a tough I have a couple of them boys you kind of look at you're like
Starting point is 00:42:38 bro do I even do arms and you see the other one it's like fucking let's go dude but you know sometimes you get caught at angle yeah caught in that exhale at angle
Starting point is 00:42:46 for people who are like new listeners this year I know we talk about I feel like every year around this time but do you guys want to talk about like undrafted versus drafted cats or like how you feel going in I know like in 2014
Starting point is 00:42:56 for you getting drafted like what were your thoughts going into that week like the processes and everything that surrounds that so my My draft experience was, it was all right. That's what I was at Radio City every single year.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So I flew into Radio City with my mom, my dad, my brother, and a couple of friends. How many people did you get in the green room with you? How many do they a lot? It was my mom, my dad, my brother, Nikki, and Brown Bear. Those are the five I got, plus my agents. Pat was sitting with me. And then Tom was, he had a couple of guys, so he was kind of moving from table to table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And you sit there and you're kind of in a limbo period because you don't, you have an idea of where you're going to go, but you really don't know, like you're not, I didn't think for a second I was going to go to the Titans. I've heard this a whole bunch. They had Michael Ruse, who was a long time vet there, and they just signed Michael Orr in free agency from Baltimore,
Starting point is 00:43:44 who won a Super Bowl a couple years ago. And so I thought, there's no way I'm going there. I didn't want to go to Detroit. And I honestly wanted to go number six to Atlanta because I knew I had a strong feeling I wasn't going to be the first tackle taking, but I had a really,
Starting point is 00:43:59 I had an even stronger feeling I was going to be the second tackle taken. And the whole week's awesome. Dude, they treat you like royalty. You go to do some cool stuff. Like you go to a couple hospitals and meet with some people that are just going through massive adversity and you have an opportunity to sit with them for a while. And that's a really cool experience.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And then you get there and it's like the nerves, dude. Like you walk in. I've kind of told this story about my mom where all the moms are wearing their Sunday best. And my mom's wearing a damn a shirt that it's the cleavage goes down to the damn belly button. She was showing everything. She could go sell hot wings. Yeah. What's that?
Starting point is 00:44:30 You can go sell hot wings if she needed to. Yeah, I don't know what that means. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yes. And so I get to the green room.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm feeling, I'm fucking feeling myself. I got this tan suit, black collar. I'm feeling like a million domestic. I got my ray bands on. And I go to Twitter and everyone's talking about wanting to fuck my mom. So that was the first L I took during that day. Then, but the week, the Monday before that draft and Thursday, the Falcons literally flew to Arizona and met with me and they're like, hey, if you're there at six, like be ready.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I was something about I'm going to be there at six. Oh, I'll be ready. Yeah. So. I don't know why. I still actually have it too, but when I was, when the draft process was going on,
Starting point is 00:45:08 I got a napkin from the table I was at in a sharp and I wrote down every single player that was taken before me. I still have that napkin in the basement of my house and underlined the tackles taken. I remember six coming up. And I'm like, all right, I'm about to be a falcon, I'm about to be a dirty bird, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:23 About to go live in Buckhead, about to fucking rip around and flower branch at the facilities. I saw the facility. They're amazing. They were day and night better than the Titans facilities when I went there. and the phone starts ringing, but it's two tables over, and it's Jake Matthews.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You got to take it. Who's a good, good ball player. He's had a good career with the Falcons for sure, but I was hot. And I ended up leaving, and I told the story about Rihanna
Starting point is 00:45:44 and all that in between, going down the hallway at a other podcast, but I was fucking livid. And then 10 comes, that's when the Lions picked, and I was like, please God, no. And it's no disrespect to the Lions fans.
Starting point is 00:45:56 You guys are on an absolute, you guys are doing this right now. You guys are ascending. But back then, there was no ascending. and I was over Michigan. I had that assault case going on. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:46:04 get me the fuck out of Michigan. I don't want to live in that area. And then the Titans called at 11. I get the call. And you can literally see the video. I have the phone in my hand. I'm giving a thumbs up to the camera. But I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I was very mad. Can you go to Atlanta at 6? No, yeah, not that. And then being the third tackle taken, I felt, I felt wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And I actually ended up talking to a, um, a guy that was a higher up in the recruiting process or the scouting process. at the Falcons and he told me he's like hey the reason why we didn't take you is because all you're off the field issues
Starting point is 00:46:37 Jake was just a safer bed at that time and he you know he had some really kind things to say but at the time I was fucking hot which sounds ridiculous so I was taking 11th overall in the NFL draft like what a dream come true
Starting point is 00:46:46 but I was fucking I was mad well how about you 2013 name did not get called yeah I like I knew that when I didn't get invited to the combine
Starting point is 00:46:58 I was like fuck man I was down in the dumps about it and then what is it, the top 300 or top 350 that they think's going to get drafted, it goes to the combine. Yeah. And then I had a good pro day. People with the... How about that 40?
Starting point is 00:47:10 That 40 was 8. 5, 6. Laser. 14710. 1,4, 710? Yeah. Brother. Yeah, I was moving.
Starting point is 00:47:19 That is fast. I was moving. But walking away from Pro Day, I was on Cloud 9 thinking, like, you, I made myself some money. That's where I went from Preferred Free Agent to, like, late around, like, five through preferred free agent. You're reading all the articles. Oh yeah. I just can't you just can't fucking help it man. You cannot help but just look at it every day and it's funny you brought up the napkin thing and write down all the players. I remember when I didn't get drafted and then I'm going to Washington like I had that whole list of all the linebackers that got drafted and how long
Starting point is 00:47:46 like who would outlast who type of thing. I want to say maybe John Bostic was the only one who outlasts me in that entire class. Um but yeah it sucked. There's there there's a point where you're like you're hoping to go like fifth round you know maybe six and then when you get the seventh, it's better to go undrafted than get drafted in the seventh round, even though you would get your name called and you would, you know, be able to take a phone call and celebrate with your family. But, uh, where was it? Oh, and then there's also a part of you that thinks like, you know, the Bill Belichick's when
Starting point is 00:48:13 they have these wild drafts where they just have some guy that's not really heard of and then they get drafted hard and they should. Yeah. You like play that moment in your head too, like that scene. You could be a Bill Belichick. Yeah, you could be like a fucking one of them Patriot guys that just gets fucking picked. Um, so you, I held on that hope, but when it didn't happen, like, yeah, it sucked. but I always just thought to myself
Starting point is 00:48:31 like if I just get a true if I get a real opportunity like I'll be straight. Yeah. Then you get there and realize like it's just a fucking uphill battle. Like you know how it is. Like when guys are on that 90 of my roster
Starting point is 00:48:41 you got the guys from rookie minicamp and everything else. Especially if you're not like, you're not like in those top two spots on depth charts. Like you're just fucking running, you know, four string. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Like I was living with anxiety. Any day could be the day you could cut. We were in a three four. So there was three, you know, three teams. right two backers three and four was the second team five and six was the third team i was the seventh fucking backer on the roster bro and i'm talking the guy yeah to start the guy who was a
Starting point is 00:49:10 third string there's a rookie and undrafted rookie who was a third string that was ahead of me to jeremy kimbrough shout at the boy jeremy kimbrough but uh yeah your boy who is at the fucking bottom bro damn and like yeah it was a grind i'm fired up about it now but like you uh yeah it sucks not getting your name called you want your name called it's just what it is like that's just You want to hear your name called. You want to see it on the fucking TV. You want to hear Mel Kiper and any of those dudes talk about you. See your highlights come across.
Starting point is 00:49:36 This is a guy like he might be limited athletically here, but blah, blah, blah, and you're fucking seeing in place. Maybe that pick six from the Capitol One bowl that you take to the house. Cerebral backer Will Compton out of Nebraska. He was a cat, blah, blah, blah. You have all this stuff going on in your head that you just hope happens and it doesn't. And, you know, you got to just got to fucking adapt at some point. But anyway, that was my like draft experience.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And the first day, day one, the Chargers hit me up talking like, you know, be ready. They ended up taking Manti-Tail at the very start of the second round because Maint-Tayel fell out of the first round because all the stuff that was going on with him at the time. Yeah. But they're like, hey, we like it. That's actually Joe Barry, who's the D-Corporinator at the Chargers, who was my, or not the Chargers, the Packers, who ended up being my decontoriner with the Redskins. But they call on day one and you're kind of like, hopefully, you know, the boy might get a call sooner than later. Let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And then, you know, day three came, nothing happened. had family, had friends over, just like your usual barbecue backyard. How did that feel, though? And kind of everyone's excited because the day three is five, six, seven? Day three is five, uh, four, five, six seven? Four, five, six seven?
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. So you're sitting there and everyone comes over at the start of four. Everyone's excited and you're kind of sitting there. And I'm sure there was a point where you like walked away from the TV. No, not like walk away. Like I was enjoying it, but people are curious like how you're feeling. You know, and you're like, oh, you know, it is. what it is. Yeah. Because you got to get over it. You know what I mean? Like, like, the minute you don't
Starting point is 00:51:01 get drafted or you like, you're just, you're mad or whatever. Like at some point, you got to get over it. Like, are you just like, do I take that same bags? Because when I got there, like, I'm nervous as can be. You got all these guys who are feeling out all their medical stuff, everything. Everybody's kind of posturing, a little bit looking like, oh, is that a linebacker, blah, blah, blah. Then you go through rookie minicamp and everything else. And then you get to the 90-man roster and you just see like, you just got to hit the ground running as a rookie. You know what I mean, they don't, it's not like they hold your hand or anything else. They just tell you, hey, don't watch the vets.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Don't follow the vets. That'll get you cut. Because vets carry themselves way differently. Way different. Way different. Yeah. Like a rookie would. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Dude, I remember when six happened for me. And Brown Bear and my brother and my mom, they're all like kind of trying to make jokes to make me feel better. But it just made me way more man. I was like, like, like, literally I had to like cinema like guys. I just need you guys to shut the fuck up for a little bit. Yeah. Let me just be in this anger. And they kept doing it, and that's when I went to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I was like, I got to, and it's got to be a little heightened too because you're at Radio City and you're in front, you're around the who's who. And you probably subconsciously are like he cocked up amongst everybody. Like who's going to go higher here? It's not like I'm sitting in a room with all the backers. And then one gets up and leaves and you're just like these motherfuckers. Right. You're just, you're kind of just hoping. And you don't realize at the time, like the needs of other teams.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like you don't really know that. You're like, I know, like, I knew like, hey, Falcons want to left tackle. You know, this team might want a left tackle. and that kind of thing. But you're just thinking like the best players are going first and this is what they think of you.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Right. You're not good enough to go in the top 10. Like you're not that guy. You're not that guy, pal. And so there was, there is, as you learn more,
Starting point is 00:52:37 you realize like, this team just didn't need to tackle right now. This team, blah, blah, all that. Like the team's literally doing what they think
Starting point is 00:52:43 is in their best interest. It has nothing to do with the personal kid. I remember the Titans being, Titan fans being pissed. I was drafted. Mad because because they had ruse and they're like,
Starting point is 00:52:52 we had the 11th pick. Like, Why in the fuck are we going to lift act? And whiz, like, it was like, hey, it's the best available player, blah, blah, blah. And I was, like, thinking, that's nice of them to say, but I'm not going to fucking play or what. Yeah. You know, and you don't know, like, there's that competitive edge in you, but then you see, like, Michael Ruse and you're like, fuck, dude, like, the guy had horrible technique. Michael Ruse had terrible technique.
Starting point is 00:53:12 He'd fucking, he had an ugly set. He always would clamp. He's always wearing dumb, long sleeves of practice. But, like, he just consistently was a machine. Like, last one in, first one out, but just did his shit. Yeah. The way, and you're like, man, there's no way. And he's never, like, missed the game.
Starting point is 00:53:26 He missed, like, one game his whole career to appendicitis that, like, exploded when they're on the plane. And he was still thinking about playing. I'm never going to fucking play. And then I'm thinking to myself, God damn, if I have to go in any other position, career's over like that. Yeah. Like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:40 The luck it had to happen. Shout out Michael Ruse for getting hurt week five against the Cleveland Browns. But, like, thank God. You're not wrong about the luck factor. No, you need that. You're not wrong. Like, there would be zero. I would have had a zero-year career had Keenan Robinson not got hurt on day one of training camp.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Because I was seven, like I was telling you, and they only ran through threes. And Keeney Robinson goes down and tears his peck first day of training camp. And just like that, I'm six. I'm now up with the third team. Then I get a, you know, you're taking advantage of your reps. Then the undrafted cat who was ahead of me running with the twos, he ends up tearing his hamstring. So then I get to play with the twos. And your boy had a couple picks one game.
Starting point is 00:54:21 and then I got to play second string for our first preseason game at Tennessee. Really? We're in number 46. But truly, there would have been zero career had injuries not happened in front of me. It would have just been over like that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you got to imagine, right? If Keen & Robinson doesn't go down, he was a pick who they had the year before,
Starting point is 00:54:39 fourth rounder linebacker out of Texas fucking looks like Tarzan, bro. Like just that's what you want to look like as a linebacker. And literally first play of training camp goes down. There's his peg. Yeah. What happened his career after that? He played a few more years. He played a couple more years.
Starting point is 00:54:56 But, yeah, you're talking about that luck factor. I mean, you kind of need some things to go your way. You know, as an undrafted guy, because sometimes, like, undrafted guys or people lower will, like, ask me stuff. And I just always think in the back of my head, like, yeah, sometimes you are going to need a little bit of luck. But whenever that luck does happen, you got to be, like, opportunistic. Like, you got, you have to be able to be ready versus, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:16 pouting and sulking and thinking, like, I should be doing this. I should be doing that. Because one day, your time. going to come. Right. Like, it's like, if you were like, oh, am I ever going to fucking play, like, okay, I'll slack off a little bit more in practice. I'll get away with this. Coaches, I'm my first rounder, X, Y, and Z. Then when somebody goes down or when they go out and your number gets called, like, you're either going to prove them right by fucking not playing you in the first place or that's going to be your shot to, like, have an opportunity
Starting point is 00:55:39 and then not look back. Yeah. Didn't you also feel like you were already, like, in a bad position because of the number you're wearing? I don't know if you want to talk about that. Yeah, I mean, I was 46. I was Alfred Morris's number. He just came off of a pro bowl. year. Alfred Morris, the running back. He just got done playing in the Pro Bowl. And so like when I had 46, it's kind of like, you kind of already know what fucking time it is in that situation. And then again, like just being at the bottom, like I felt like the line by your coach didn't really mess with me some old head. Love London Fletcher, like love the guys. You know how it is too. Like coaches, they kind of love the vets that they have there. You kind of know who's going to be
Starting point is 00:56:13 on the roster. If I was a first round pick, it's going to be, hey, bring him along, all this kind of stuff. But you got to know some of those guys are going to, like when we started to get more established, you kind of know the room. Everybody, draft week's coming up. Some of the guys at the bottom are kind of, hey, don't grab, don't grab this position, that position. You kind of know what your room's going to look like, unless there's a high round pick that's going to be like, like you, for instance, with like
Starting point is 00:56:32 dealing anybody else, you know they're going to be on the roster, you're going to have to bring them along at some point. So, sometimes the coaches don't mess with you as much. But when those, when Keeney got hurt and Jeremy got hurt and literally fucking had two interceptions one day, and Mike Shanehan was like, oh, you're Mr.
Starting point is 00:56:47 interception. I'm thinking like, yo, Mike Shanahan knows who I am right now. Yeah. Because I made a couple plays on RG and Kirk. And then from there, it's like I got the opportunity to play. And then you just don't look back. Like when you go in, you fucking play well versus like, oh, he could be a bus. He could be this.
Starting point is 00:57:03 He could be that. Why isn't he playing yet? He's a first rounder. That's your biggest fear when you're a first round pick. Like, why isn't he playing? It's, you know, it's not like you're a quarterback. Like, I feel like quarterback's the only one where if you're not playing quarterback, everybody else should probably be starting in that first year.
Starting point is 00:57:15 You have that expectation anyway. And it shows like the amount of awareness that you are able to develop as you get older because when I my rookie year I thought man I could get cut. I was a you're not if you're a first round pick you're a top 15 pick you literally have to do the most insane shit to get cut like it's literally almost impossible to get cut but I'm literally thinking I mean to the point I literally walked up the ruse and I was like I don't cut to work like am I going to be all right and he like laughed in my face he's like you're going to be here like right whether you play or not but it's a it's a fearful thing I remember like
Starting point is 00:57:43 the fourth preseason game was against the falcons we went down and practice against them. And then we, I played the entire fourth preseason game because I wasn't starting and they're like, just get out there, get your reps. Brutal. I was going against the D. End. And it was like, this, this white dude, he probably, you know, he probably got the cut the next day. But he was like, saying to me, he's like, you, why, what are you even doing out here? And Jake Matthews is starting by the way. Like, we're playing Jake Six. He's starting. And I'm not on my fuck. They were right. Like, they were right to take him. And literally this dude, this fucking white D.N is like, he's like, you're going to, you like, you're like, you're like, you're
Starting point is 00:58:16 Like you're not going to, you're a bust already. Like, look at you're out here in the fourth. I fucking, I took that dude for a ride the next. That has to piss you all too, bro. Maybe so mad. That's like a solid shirt to where it's like, you mother fuck. And it hurt, dude. It hurts so bad when he said.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I was like, fuck, dude. Am I a bus? Am I a fucking bus? It is the fourth priest's game I am out of here. It's crazy. And it's crazy how things just turn to like those first six weeks. You're like doing whatever you can to stay on top of it. And then you start and you end up making like all rookie team.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And you're like, oh, am I really him? Yeah. Oh, I got a shot. I could actually be something out here. Yeah, man. It was just, it's a fucking wild deal. It's a wild deal. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Watching the stress, like I would watch a, 2018 or 19, like Ben was going to be a free agent the next year. And I know he says now he wanted to be at the Titans, but Ben's always done a really good job of playing chess. Like, not letting anyone really know where he stands. But we were actually talking about today. Like, hey, have you ever been stressed for a draft? And I was only stressed for one draft for my second year going to my third year.
Starting point is 00:59:14 But Ben was 18, 19. he was super stressed about it because he was like, man, he wanted to be at Tennessee. He wasn't telling anybody he wanted to, but he was going to be a free agent. And I know there's another guy, some center, I think is something Daniels,
Starting point is 00:59:26 maybe in out of Iowa or something like that. And that guy got picked to pick before the Titans. Which, who knows if the Titans would have taken him? But that's what, you know, Ben was telling me like, it's like, fuck, like, let's go. I'm going to be here,
Starting point is 00:59:37 blah, blah, blah, in your head, you're playing that game. And I'm sure it was like that for you. I remember in 2018, you were legit, like, I think I asked you, hey, you want to watch the drive. after something.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Like, brother, I kind of just want to keep up myself for that thing. When I first got here, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was with a couple of my boys and then when we traded up, Titans traded up because I got brought in and signed on one year for two million dollars. You. And Wesley Woodier, obviously captain, he was stud.
Starting point is 01:00:03 But the other than that, it was me, West, Jayon. There wasn't a whole lot in the room. So we all knew that we'll be competing. Like, Jayon was probably the most promising one that was going to like have a role no matter what because he was young, he was athletic, all that stuff. Like, they just needed to get some edge. out of him. And the Titans trade up to get Rishon Evans.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I remember sitting at one of the bars in Germantown with Logan and Nick they were in town. Yeah. And they traded up and dragged to Rishan. And I was like, motherfucker, dude. Because you just know what time it is no matter what. That year, if you remember Rishan, Tours Hamstring, he was out all of training camp. Yeah. And I remember.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And he ends up playing. The moment he's healthy, like he's out there. He's playing there. Oh, no, he's going to play. I remember talking to you about it during camp. Like, bro, hey. like not happy we're sure you don't want people that hurt but it's like that's the game you're playing and we did and we train together also like we all knew like I sent the one year and you're you when you sign a one year after phrasage
Starting point is 01:00:54 you're like trying to like you're on like a little prove a year yeah like man I'm gonna because I tore I broke or uh had a lose frank injury and so then I came here and so yeah we've been working all summer and I was like I remember being like hey fucking good for you and I remember like a couple weeks after during training camp you're like he's gonna play at the minute he comes back and I was like damn for real there's no way no it always buy it always buy bothered me, man. But yeah, every draft, you're sitting there, you're just hoping they don't draft somebody. The only draft I felt comfortable in was when I was going into either 15 or 16. Yeah. That's the only time where I just felt comfortable. I'm like, oh, they're probably not going to take a mic backer in the first round. If they do, it's going to be somebody like play
Starting point is 01:01:29 next to me or somebody, which is a fun feeling to have. Yeah. What's like a piece of advice you can give to even like current players? Because it's not like they give you the courtesy of texting. Like, hey, like we're about to take like a backer. Like you just see it on the ticker, right? Yeah, you just see it. assumingly, but like, I feel literally I'm refreshing. All the beat writers that write for the team, I'm like refreshing their little timeline. I feel like you can apply to a lot of aspects of life. Like if you're not an NFL player, though, like, what is a piece of advice to guys where
Starting point is 01:01:56 you just have to take that in stride? Like, you find out in that moment and like what's your mindset and like how do you move forward in a productive way and not just be like filled with anger and resentment towards like your employer, I guess? But what's like a good piece of advice you can give to guys out there that see that in real time. Do you want to hit this ad before we do that? Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:03:34 Was that it, Jack? Yeah. Recap that well? Yeah. You know my favorite saying. You know one of my favorite sayings. A lot of things. Tough people don't last. Tough times don't last. People do. Yeah, that will that. But like, nobody's coming to save you.
Starting point is 01:03:47 No one's, that is, that is a, like it's truly the minute you are fucking in that headspace of, you, of things that you just can't control it. You're just assuming the words. You're playing so many different games in your head. What if this happens? What if that happens? What if they think this? What if they say that?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Oh, I read this one thing. Does everybody think that way? At the end of the day, nobody is coming to save you. So like I was saying earlier, the moment that you do get an opportunity, because an opportunity is going to come at some point. It might not be at the timing that you want it to, not the most ideal time. in your perfect world, we all want the perfect scenario. But the moment it does come, because it comes, you have to be ready to fucking go.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And you're either going to prove yourself right or you're going to prove them right. There's this one situation. It wasn't like drafts or anything else, but I was pissed because one of our guys went on IR for his labor. This is 2017. This is before I came to the Titans. And Mason Foster, he goes on IR for his labrum. And so me and Spate are splitting reps. and I am so fucking mad, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I'm talking, I'm bringing this energy into the meeting rooms. I go and have a one-on-one with my linebacker coach. I end up storming out of the office. Hey, coach Jay Gruniton. He's like, oh, hey, comp, sometimes you just need a hug and tries to like hug me and I just don't fucking hug him. I kind of like, damn. Give him space and I'm like...
Starting point is 01:05:01 And that's not Will Compton. No, that's not me at all. I was fucking tight, bro. I'm deep courier. It comes, hey, what's wrong with comp? And I just do this thing where I basically just put on as much swag as possible. I'm talking like, you know how dude's put a towel on. I'll put like fucking five towels on me.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'll just act as dumb as possible in front of everybody on the field and I'll just like work hard and not talk to anybody because I won't feel in all mad. It's almost like my own way to protest. Yeah. And Jake came over talking to me and I was like, yo, I don't fucking understand what makes you think that like I shouldn't be playing this entire game.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I'm playing the whole fucking victimized mentality. And I was playing in base that week. Well, if you play backer, you want to play more nickel and dime, you're going to get more burn on the field. I was playing in base so you know, we were about to play the Cowboys, so Cowboys played a good amount of base. and they wanted to split me in spate reps,
Starting point is 01:05:45 which I thought was fucking bullshit. I was now healthy, all this stuff. So I thought I was like the number two guy because that's what they had benched me for Zach Brown at the beginning of the year. And I remember studying that week because right when the meeting we'd get over, I'd fucking grab my notebook and I'd like get out.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You know, I'm fucking pout and I'm being a puss about the whole thing. And I remember sitting at home as I'm studying, I go, and I just remember just that same kind of conversation. I was like, you know, I can bitch about this whole time. Like I can continue to bitch, which I continued to do. And I was like, but if I allow this to leak into my play and leak into that opportunity when it does come, because no matter what at the end of the day, if I don't ball out on base against the Cowboys this week, this weekend against the Cowboys, like, they're going to rock with Spate because Spate will play well, right?
Starting point is 01:06:31 If spate plays well, I play mediocre, spate's going to be the guy, and rightfully so because he took advantage of the opportunity. So even though I have not the most ideal situation or the ideal reps or my ideal package and everything else, Like, no matter what I knew, like, I had to play well if I was going to create more opportunity to stay on the field. Fortunately, I played well. I fucking, the boy, fucking balled. Next week in Seattle, I had balled. I caught my middle finger game where I had, boy, had 10 tackles and a pick. Should have had a couple picks on Russell, one of those few picks that I had.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Yeah. And that next week after the Seattle game, my line byer coach calls me, he's like, hey, we hear you loud and clear. Like, you have the keys now. Dan, that must have been a great feeling. bro, I fucking, when I got the phone, I just sat there and smiled. Like, I was hype. Obviously, I feel like if I look back, I should have handled it a little bit better. I still was, like, working my dick off, but I was, like, really being like, I was so fucking mad about it, boys.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah. And, but when he was like, hey, we all hear you, you got the keys now, like, the car is yours. Like, everybody, you got the mic, you got all this stuff. I mean, unfortunately, I tour. That's when I had my list, Frank, the next week against Minnesota. But I wish I felt so fucking hype, dude. I wish I could have finished out the year because could have probably got a better. deal. I could have probably got a better deal. But yeah, that's my, that's like the example of the
Starting point is 01:07:44 whole nobody's coming to save you. Taylor and I talk about this phrase all the fucking time. Like, anytime we're in a bad situation, remember Taylor we call like before the week because he's getting the, the bugs are coming up. He's like, man, I'm fucking, I can't wait to get out there, but I'm also nervous because I've been playing because my knee or I haven't played since my knee. And it's like just the nobody's coming to save you mentality. And we just sit there and talk about it. It really is. It is such a good phrase too, because at the end of day, that's true. It's not just for sports. It's for everything. Like, if you're dealing with a lot. with something that sucks.
Starting point is 01:08:12 At the end of the day, brother, the only person that can save you is yourself. Yeah. There's no, there's no rafts. There's no life vests for you out there. You just got to keep treading water and figure out a way to find dry land.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah. And then fucking, yeah, dust your knees off and fucking keep going, brother. Yeah. That is, that truly is one of the hardest things to deal with is like adversity
Starting point is 01:08:30 because it's so easy to do the YME and look at somebody like, looking at Will's perspective, being undrafted and then my perspective being a first round pick, I'm sure a lot of times you would look at guys that were talented,
Starting point is 01:08:40 crazy and would play really well and you're like, man, I wish I could just be like that where they seem like their laissez-faire, no-care attitude that's out there balling. Yeah. Fortunately, being in that position that I was just talking about is every single person that you come across on a daily basis has the anxieties, has the stress that you're also dealing with. It might not be as strong at the time, but everybody's always working through something. When I was at the top of my game, making Pro Bowls and all that shit, like there was not
Starting point is 01:09:06 a day that went by that I was like, when are people going to find out that I'm I'm a phony. When are people going to find out that we're fraud? I literally feel like I'm part of the Truman show where everyone's allowing me to live this life and pretend that I'm good at something that I'm really not good at and eventually the exposure is going to come. And so guys would talk to me all the time in the locker room be like, how do you stay so calm? And I would think to myself, damn, I'm just a fucking fraud.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Like, oh, you're not looking close enough. Yeah. Yeah, you're just not, yeah, you're not peeking behind the curtain, brother. Like, you're looking at all the bedazzled shit on the walls. Like, you just need to look around this back door and you're going to realize there's a lot of fucking demons that are coming out on the inside. And so it's really just that one of those things where everybody is going through shit. The best thing you can do in these situations is take care of your house first.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Write down all the things that stress you out in one corner of a piece of paper. And on the other side of piece of paper, just write down all the things you can't control and then just focus on those things. Because if you can't fucking, the things you can't control, there's no, there is literally zero reason to worry about them. everything else has to follow where it does. The bad attitude thing, that was my entire career. Like, you saw it at the tight ends.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Like, I always, in the middle of making probles, in the middle of doing a whole bunch of stuff, like I would sit there and I would think of ways that people wronged me. Or I was like, see, they don't fucking believe in you. Mike Mularky is a perfect example. I can't fucking stand that man. Worst coach I've ever had in my entire life.
Starting point is 01:10:30 He would belittle me. He would talk down to me. He would treat me like shit. But at the same time, I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to prove this motherfucker wrong. I remember he kicked me out of practice. It was 2016. We were playing the Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 01:10:42 First time going back up to Michigan since I got drafted, other than going to a couple court cases, but like going up to play. And I was like, I was getting pissed about something. And yeah, when I was on the football field, I had a bad fucking attitude. Like, it was it didn't matter if it was my teammates. I was playing in a game. Like, I had a different attitude when I was on the football field. And Mike thought I was doing some shit that I shouldn't have been doing.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And he kicks me out of practice. And I fucking go into his office. and I just reamed him for a while, like telling him, like, you don't fucking understand all these things, basically victimizing myself up and down the board of reason why he shouldn't treat me the way I am. But I did. And I used that going into the game, same thing. Don't talk to anybody.
Starting point is 01:11:22 No one fucking talks to me. People ask me a question. There's one word answers. And it's not the right thing to do. But it was, there's a level of, I guess, narcissism that comes with playing an elite sport that you have to kind of have sometimes. Like, you just got to focus on yourself, focus on what you can. can do because in turn that helps the team and everything and all the things we preach in an organized
Starting point is 01:11:41 sport but like there is you got to find a way to keep a chip on your shoulder even when everything's going right yeah and even to that you're saying the narcissistic thing i think too it's it's mainly like it gets emotional force at times because we know how much work we put into it yeah so when you when you work your fucking dick off or something and you feel like you deserve this certain opportunity and you're not getting it it it fucking it wears on you and it comes out but you're right man at the the end of the day, nobody lays on the pillow with the same stretch. I don't care if you have a wife, whether it's husband, wife, whoever at home. Nobody, my wife is not sharing the same stress with me. She asks and wants me to talk and tries to give me to talk and I got a great circle around
Starting point is 01:12:17 me, but no matter what, nobody is going to save you except yourself. What was the analogy you used about getting wet and you're just trying to find dry land? Keep trying water to find dry land. Yeah, like there's no, there's no life reservers. There's nothing out there to help you. Yeah, which is true, dude. Like me and you can talk. If any of us are ever going through something Like, yeah, it's very grateful to have the support of you and everything else. But no matter what, it's, you're still laying there looking, staring up at the ceiling and the pitch black night. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:44 Thinking about the same thing and then trying to compartmentalize. Like, yeah, what zone said was, that is true. I should do this. I should do that. Like, no one is coming to save you, man. Yeah. And you can have, you should always talk to somebody about the stresses you're going through. At the end of the day, buddy, you hang up that phone.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Will could call me right now, but, yeah, you know, me and char with this or I'm dealing with that or, or, you know, I wish the bus was doing any kind of issue. Football, life, family, all that stuff. The minute you hang up the phone, you're, it's, brother, like, you got all the support you needed, but you have to be the one to take action and go do it. There's nothing, there's literally nothing you can do. There's no get out of jail free cards. You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 01:14:20 let me and really just run with it a little bit. I feel like just being a fan, like it's really interesting to like hear these perspectives because you almost assume them. I'll like create a perspective that you have in my head just because I think that's how you would operate at this level. But at the end of the day, I feel like those perspectives are just assumptions. And so it's nice to hear from the source and like seeing both ends of the perspective from being
Starting point is 01:14:44 undrafted and being drafted at a very high round. No matter how many years we hear this over and over, it's still refreshing to hear it come draft day. And I know there's so many young kids and current players that take this as like game. It's free game. And so thank you guys for sharing it and it's fun to see like these new kids who are about to have their lives change forever come what is it Wednesdays is the first night or Thursday? Thursday's the first night. It's fun to revisit this every year just kind of going back over it and hearing good wholesome perspectives.
Starting point is 01:15:16 They're like if you get drafted first overall or you're misrelevant or you don't even make it on the ticker, I feel like it helps at least one person out there revisiting these kind of conversations. So appreciate y'all opening up. it's crazy the amount of like internal warfare you go through as a as a football player I'm sure in any other sport like I literally made it a point to never post me working out ever not like anything because I was so afraid that if people see me working then all of a sudden like someone else would take that day I gotta work harder to I would always like edge on the area of being like I can't let anybody see me working it was just most ridiculous like it is funny how many internal games that we all play warfare dude and it's not a healthy lifestyle at all. Like, it really isn't. You're just so zoomed into one singular thing. And like, for me, especially, like, when I am focused on one thing, there's anything that gets in the way, it gets just absolutely destroyed. And I just- You try to destroy it. You try to destroy it.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That self-destruct button, brother. It is something else. Absolutely something. Yeah. It's a wild deal. But hey, the draft's going to be fucking awesome. I'm stoked to see what the Titans do. You see them talking about a lot of quarterbacks right now. But I think- Their best bet is a tackle. There's some rumors going around that Tanna Hill's on the trade bar. I did see that. Even Derek Henry that rumor was circulating about Derek Kennedy. Yeah, I was on the plane when I saw that.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I'm like scrolling my phone everywhere. It seems like the source who tweeted it was like a credible source, but no way else was like double downing on that. I'm texting Buck Rising. He's like not as of 9 a.m. this morning. But everybody's trying to get confirmation. Apparently that wasn't a real thing. But I think it'll be interesting. I think the Titans are going to make a big move.
Starting point is 01:17:00 on draft night. I hope they trade and do something. Eight minutes ago, rap, he tweeted Titan GM Rand Carthin told reporters that he has not received calls about trading Derek Henry. So I don't know what that.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Because I was a verified like beat writer. I forget what his name is. But yeah, very, very weird to like put your... That was a weird deal. Yeah. But how much is Rand being truthful?
Starting point is 01:17:23 We got to get ran on the pot. He told me he'd come on the podcast. That'd be awesome. Yeah, we should have him on. Hope, maybe I'll try to get him next week. I was going to say right after the draft to have him talk about it.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Because Ram, too, he could just say that because you're never going to show any of your cards. And in his mind, you've got to think Derek's refreshing just like we are. If he's finding out on Twitter that he might be getting traded. So you almost want to come out and say that just to alleviate anything going on. While at the same time understanding like, hey, this is a business. Like we will operate in our best interest, not to intentionally like piss anybody off, but we still got to do what's best. Like if they are fielding calls about Derek Henry and.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Tana Hill, I think Tanyl is kind of, that one's kind of out there now. Yeah, that's been, that's a lot of things about that way. Unless that's a wildfire that you can control, like, you're going to air on the side of like, no, there's been no conversations while at the same time hitting somebody up, like, hey, we got to keep this under the wraps. We can still talk shop. And that could exactly be happening with Derek, too, like GMs and like upstairs, like, they try to be as transparent as possible with you, but at the end of the day of business is
Starting point is 01:18:24 business. You got to get shit done a certain way. Like, if Derek did go to the Eagles, Super Bowl favorites Yeah you gotta bet that Yeah You gotta bet that dude That was back when they had like
Starting point is 01:18:36 Who was it? Like Garrett Blunt and somebody else They like a one two point Talent over this Jiu Yeah yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:42 When they had that one two punch bro Like they were nice But you gotta give Derek those carries Brother You gotta give them those carries And they're in a lot more like RPA off set gun Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:54 They're like They're a lot more Yeah I don't think he He bodes well with that offense But if you are looking at from purely the team's angle of looking at Derek and thinking of him is not a 30 times a guy game.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Yeah. Well, I think, I think Derek would do well at that. Their own line's so good too. Like, he's, it's not going to take 10 plus carries to get him going.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Like, they're going to get him to his fifth or fourth, fourth or fifth step getting into that line of scrimmage untouched. And that's, that's all you got to do with Derek, dude. For Derek to be as successful as he has been, you just can't get him touched by the line of scrimmage and he will do the rest.
Starting point is 01:19:28 he is yeah you know now we you get a little loose block shit goes haywire sometimes that's not on there it's on the office line but fuck you get that boy going downhill a little bit they run some he can run inside zone like a motherfucker he can run run duo he's gotten he's obviously had a lot of home runs on outside zone like he can do it that offset gun though i bet would be a new transition from especially how much i formation of the titans do what's your draft day do you have any draft day surprises? Or what do you think is going to happen that could be big or just out of nowhere? Mine really is. I think they're going to, I think the Titans are going to trade Ryan Tannhill and move up in the draft this year. I think they're going to go after Trey Lance. What's up? I think they're
Starting point is 01:20:09 going to go after Trey Lance. Oh, yeah, that's, that has been, that has been reported as well. I think, but I think, but I think Ram in his first year, I think he's going to make a splash play. I agree. What is it? Rand. Rand. Rand. Not Ram. Like, he comes from San Francisco, too, where they keep everything pretty tight-lipped. They don't really say anything, but you remember, they made that splash with trade- Yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:30 but you would have to trade if you traded Tannahill, what do you trade in Tannhill to the 49ers for? I mean, we need, we need, Jimmy's gone, Jimmy's at the Raiders now. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:39 but Brocks might not be ready by the start of the season. Yeah, and right now Tannhill's a better quarterback than Brock. Absolutely. Absolutely. And Tannhill would flourish with the Niners. Man,
Starting point is 01:20:52 all that firepower around him, She, you. And it could also, I mean, they could trade Tanna Hill to somebody else and still make a play at Trey Lance. They don't necessarily have to trade them to San Francisco. Yeah, but there's a lot of, it seems like there's a lot of quarterbacks in this. Will Levis, Levis. Will Levis. Will Levis, Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud.
Starting point is 01:21:11 They got some fucking dogs, Anthony Richardson. I like Bryce Young, man. I think Anthony Richardson, I think could be a baller in this league. I don't think he's for the Titans. I think it's going to be between him and Will Levis if we get a quarterback. Richardson and Levis? Because the others are going to be off the board? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Levis gives me... Not Bryce Young, definitely not... They're not falling to 11. Who's that bust from UCLA? Rosen. Rosen. Loz. Levis gives me Rosen vibes.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I don't want. I hate putting that on his plate. I hate saying that. But the banana peel and the mayonnaise and the coffee, like something just... Something doesn't feel right. I don't know. I don't fucking know. And I hope, if he gets drafted,
Starting point is 01:21:51 I hope to God he comes on this pocket. I would love to talk to. about it, but like, I don't know. Anthony Richardson, like, dude, the guy's a fucking freak. Specimen. Spesiments. Truly. Like, undeniably, maybe the most athletic person I've ever seen in my life. The guy is incredibly athletic, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:10 You just kind of, you just need the Titans to get a fucking, a dude. If they're going to get a quarterback, they got to get a fucking dude. And it's probably good that they have, it's probably best for Tannahill and for the Titans. get a younger guy in there. It'll take a lot of fucking hits the last couple of years. That old line is in shambles right now. They got to do a lot of work up front. I thought they would do some more work up front in free agency, but they really just,
Starting point is 01:22:34 they really didn't. I'll tell you who is a sleeper though. And I've given him some flowers on this podcast, two of them, both of them I've said a couple of times, 4-11 Jordan Ruse. Those guys are sleepers starters for the Tennessee Titans, and I think they're going to play well. Ruse is really in the last couple of years. I've seen him come along in a way that, like, You know, Ruse is your typical meathead football player.
Starting point is 01:22:57 We were talking about DeFranco programming in Vegas. Remember that? We were talking about fucking the way we're lifting. He's always wearing the straps and make your posture of the right. Like he's about getting after it in the weight room. He hit me up the other day. He goes, your boy's in fucking shape. I'm nimble and I'm moving.
Starting point is 01:23:09 He said, I did 3.85 for five. I'm bench. No problem. I love him. I'm nimble and I'm moving right now. Took 3.85 on a ride five times. Yeah, but he, that's always been the thing. I would always tell him and his wife, Mars, like, dude,
Starting point is 01:23:23 just stretch. You've got a fucking stretch. Because when he came in there, dude, he was a little heavier set, stiff in the hips, wouldn't bend that well. Then you can see him work on it. And he's fucking gotten better. He saw him play the last couple of games of the season last year. The guy can play ball. And he plays 100 miles an hour or two. He's got a gas tank that a lot of guys wish they had. Absolutely. I think he's going to do well. And Corey, every year's gotten better. Corey needed that. He needed that fucking talk on Rocket League the other day when I called him a muffin. Because God damn, the boy was a muffin. He looked terrible.
Starting point is 01:23:52 He went on that year to basically He was out of the league Patriots. Well, the premier Patriots brought him off for Bags Squad and he couldn't make it through the workout. He couldn't make it through practice. I was hearing that out in Oakland. Yeah. And he wasn't making it through that. And basically it was a big reality check.
Starting point is 01:24:09 And he basically took the rest of the year off. And he got on that get right playing in the offseason. He got right. And I saw him the other day. I mean, you see the pictures. He looks fucking good. You see the photos out there. Yeah. Corey looks good.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And I'm not, I didn't say that the blast Corey. Like, listen. you're fat buddy you were fat and out of shape and you look good now yeah yeah we've seen his mirror picks he'll send him every now and then yeah he is feeling himself too yeah he's on the creeteen he's got that fucking c4 pre-workout you know he's on fucking 400 milligrams of caffeine getting into the fucking gym he's getting after that lord forgive me of these gains though about to receive yeah he's out he's out there fucking getting it dude a lot of things you can do for recovery also and one thing well i don't know if you want to talk about ice barrel it just came in
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Starting point is 01:26:51 Don't fucking ask me what brown fat. I don't know, but I do know brown fat helps, it helps burn off faster. Yeah. You literally burn it off much faster. So the hip area, all those little areas, you're kind of like, man, I feel good. I just wish this little piece was off me. That ice therapy. And it sucks, dude.
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Starting point is 01:27:54 I got a, you probably have one on the way if it's not already there. Good. Because I got a cold therapy, but I want to put one outside for the summertime. Put it right outside my door and the master. Yeah. You walk out there. Six foot seven? Six, seven.
Starting point is 01:28:05 But maybe being six with seven, we take a video and we show people like, hey, you can be six seven and still get in this day. I can absolutely do that because I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of cold therapy. Dude, it sucks getting into it. but once you're in it, the hardest part is just stepping in it. And once you sit down or lay down
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Starting point is 01:28:29 I gotta pee really bad. Should we get to the Andrew Santino Bobby Lee podcast, the bad friends podcast? How long? We've been going. We've been over an hour. This is an intro podcast to the podcast.
Starting point is 01:28:38 An hour and a half? Longer than that. Oh yeah, we gotta go. Yeah, this is the longest thing of all time. Guys, enjoy it. If you stuck with it. this this long drop comments because you're a fucking tier one for life one you guys are gonna love this interview this hang with uh andrew santino and bobby lee uh subscribe
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Starting point is 01:29:22 I have slanny ears. Interesting choice of words. I have slant of ears, too. What kind of, what kind of ears? You got to let him warm it up. You can say it, not us. What, Slanny? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:32 I'm not saying that. What does somebody say, they're chink in the armor. What does that mean? Gilles, he can't say stuff like that. Yeah, he loves it. Not anymore. He can't.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Tony Hinchclubs loves it, too. Well, I think he can now. He can't now because he's on Patreon. Yeah, he's fine. He can't out because he's on Patreon. Slope. Slope is an Asian derogatory word. What?
Starting point is 01:29:51 What? What is now? Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you being serious?
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah. I'm being serious. Slope. You never heard of it? Can't you say slope. You can't if you're like skiing. But if you see an Asian guy, you can't slow. He can't say slow.
Starting point is 01:30:06 If you see an Asian guy skiing, then you can say it, right? Why? No, no, no. Hang on. Why is slope derogatory, though? I have no idea, but it's like in the Vietnam War they used to say it. Yeah. Or zipper head.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Yeah, that's on Grand Tour. I learned that on Grand Torino. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You learn all that's from Clint Eastwood movies. Also, um... Nip. Nip is a thing, too, but that's only for the Japanese. Nip? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:29 What? I mean, we're talking to what you say it. I know. The way it was coming out of my mouth, I was a little nervous. There's like the little crackers, too, that are going to call nips. Isn't that Twizzlers has a little ones called? Those are nips. What?
Starting point is 01:30:41 Twizzlers? That's my penis. That's a little twizzler. That's a little twizzler. A little cherry twisler. Do they call Twizzlers nips? I think that's, no, the little ones. Aren't that, isn't that what they're called?
Starting point is 01:30:49 What's the little baby one's called? What's the fuck you're talking about, man? Quizzy's dog. Listening face. They're good. Yeah, they're fake. I mean, they're beautiful. You should have saw him before the...
Starting point is 01:30:56 I thought you were going to say, you should get him. Look at his... He has seven left in his mouth. Show him how many teeth you have left. I don't want to show you, but don't show the first fan. Okay. He's got like four teeth left. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Hey, he really does. Homeless guys come up to us and they're always like, ooh. That was me before. Oh, fuck. Back in the day. Those are deformed. Did football do that? It was not good.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Or was that God? Did God do that? God did that. God did the spacing. The chipped tooth, chipping the teeth start happening because I don't wear a mouthpiece. What was your heaviest when you were playing? 236. Big boy.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Big Papa. That's what he's at right now. 54.230. What are you? 54-238? We measured yesterday in the hotel. 220, man. 220, 225-4-225.
Starting point is 01:31:37 It's so funny that you say that. Shout out to all little guys out that are 5-4-2-25. That's the Bobby Lee style, baby. You're not alone. No. You're not alone, fellas. No, bro, can I just say something? Yeah, please.
Starting point is 01:31:46 You say shit like that, dude, the other night at Louisville? What did I say? No, at the other night, at Loua, I'm going to just to tell you. Yeah. A girl came up to me and she goes, you're like 10 times skinner than Andrew talks about. Yeah. She's just on my body when I got naked. First of all, she was trying to suck and that was just her being nice.
Starting point is 01:32:01 What's like what? My feet? Yeah, your little toes. You little bones. Anyway, I'm just saying, I think that I think I think I'm skinnyer than you, you know what I mean? I don't say that you're fat. You just said 220. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:32:13 The camera puts weight on. Exactly. Thank you. The camera puts weight on. So many fucking cameras and then you'll be fine. That's fucking rude, dude. Congratulations on Cheeseburger.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Thank you so much. I think you're... I divert it by giving them a compliment and then we go this way. That's the joke is you say that you're fat and then I joke about it with you. You say it, not me. The penis is small.
Starting point is 01:32:31 What? My penis? Do you want to go toe to toe to toe live on bustling with the voice and without doing it? You'll be embarrassed. You'll be embarrassed. You should be embarrassed. Why?
Starting point is 01:32:40 Just penis is so small. You should think about killing yourself. Bobby's dick is like a pawn and a chessboard and mine is like those outside chest pieces that are huge that you put in like a patio. Yeah, but if you pawn on a... In comparison, that's what it is. If you put a pawn on a smaller chessboard, it looks normal, right?
Starting point is 01:32:57 But you're a pawn on a gigantic chestboard. Okay, nice try. Nice try. Nice try. Nice try. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. I love football. Yeah, yeah. Name four positions in football.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Oh, it's so so dumb. Go. Running back? Yeah? Wide receiver. Yeah. Quarterback? Defense and linebacker.
Starting point is 01:33:14 No. No. That last one doesn't count. Linebacker. Now what I'm going to ask. Livebacker. Live backer. Live backer?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Four positions on defense. Is live backer a new one? No, no, hang on, hang on. Four positions on defense. Why'd you applaud then? Stop, stop. Why'd you applaud? No, that was like an Asian thing.
Starting point is 01:33:30 They all at the same time. Yay! That's what they all did. And they did this. They were mocking you. They were mocking you. They were mocking you. They were not your team.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Name four positions on defense. Yeah. Yeah. Defense of, linebacker? Let me see. Pass interference. Yes. That's one. That's one. Right, right. That's one.
Starting point is 01:33:49 The coach. Coach is another. Yeah, there you go. The defensive coordinator. Right. And then the thing in the end, what is that called? Field goal post. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Is that a human or I can clap. You know, it wasn't. You know, in the 1920s, that was a guy. A guy used to have to hold his arm up. That's all it was. Oh, really? No pulse. Just, just guys out there. You had to kick through a couple of guys. I like soccer.
Starting point is 01:34:09 Yes, you do. He's a big football. Soccer. He is a. He is a European football fan. You get a lot of push, huh? You know, I'm married. No, but you could. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Yeah, yeah. You know, I was, it always is one of those things where I got the new teeth, but I was already married, so you never kind of know. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I can tell, man. But you can tell. Yeah, I can tell you, if you were single right now, you would kill it.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Why you say that? I mean, I'm not gay, but... I'm looking for compliments. No, I look at you, and I get tingly. Yeah. Parts of my party, body gets singly, it's not gay thing, but... What parts? What about whole.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Is it prepping? Is that what it is? It's tingly because it preps? It's like juicing. Boys, I can't, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fucking fired up. I'm gonna say it was last week and you guys were on and somebody was like, from bars to
Starting point is 01:34:56 was like, hey, Bobby and Andrew are gonna be in Nashville next week, do you guys want to try to book? And I'm like, obviously, fuck yes. But I think you two are two of the funniest motherfuckers on the internet. Thank you, bro. Thank you so much. I watch your guys as pod and your guys is casual, hang around like, lots. Rockroom is humor and banter back and forth is all time.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Thank you, brother. Well, this is what my friends and I do, you know, and it was good that we could do that without any. You and who? You and who. Yeah. My best friend. Yeah. Well, he has a friend.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Look at that. JP, you're right. Yeah. He goes. What's your friend's name? Oh, yeah. You have no. I got a bunch of like face wash out there.
Starting point is 01:35:31 You can't use it. Okay. Listen. So here. Here's what are you being so mean. We just showed up on the bus. You know what I mean? He first off brought up the thing.
Starting point is 01:35:38 But he didn't insult you. He hasn't said one mean thing about you. This is what we need. We need a good roasting. You know what I'm honored. This guy never gets bullied, dude. Look at him. Yes, he, yes.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Oh, brother. You don't want to watch his face one time? When he was young, you don't know his life. You don't grow up with teeth like that and not get bullied. Yeah, but you're doing good now. Well, better now. Yeah, I look at you now. You know what's the worst financial investment you made with your football money?
Starting point is 01:36:02 Worst financial investment? Yeah. Every athlete that I've known over the years has always made one bad one. Oh, real bad. this real estate investment. You dumped a bunch of money. Fortunately, I got the same amount back, but it was out of my hands for a long time. Several years.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Did you do that? Did you get involved in? And it was, it was fucking. Did you do that? No, no, no, no. No NFT. Is there any NFT suckers in here? None of you guys got clipped, huh? Bobby and I are in deep trouble. We try to sell.
Starting point is 01:36:30 We're part of that big lawsuit, right? Aren't we meet you and Beyonce? We push a much NFTs. We're up on trial for like $850 million or something. What kind of NFTs was basically years? It was, uh, you know, they have boys. board apes? You know, board apes? Yeah, you have one?
Starting point is 01:36:42 We had excitable apes. They were little Korean apes. We had a little excitable apes. And we sold them. How much did we sell those for? What would we, we were, we don't even know. Well, we made it. You did it, man. Yeah. Hey, man. Hey, Bobby.
Starting point is 01:36:56 As soon as we landed in the South, he's gotten his little accent. Do you enjoy, do you guys enjoy been in Nashville, touring around the South? I love it, man. I love the fry shit. I mean, I love white people. I love American Flat T-T-shirt. He asked the bus driver, I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the driver on the way here, if it'd be okay if he would wander through the Appalachians by himself.
Starting point is 01:37:15 I've always wanted to go, you know, the Appalachian. You know where you should go is a Buckees. The Bucky. Yeah, we got to, it's a stop. It's like a truck stop. It's a Disney land of gas stations. Now, when I walk in there, would they say hello to me? Yeah, there's a mascot and everything. You can get a photo. What's the mascot?
Starting point is 01:37:31 It's like a massive Beaver. I'm talking about 100 gas pumps. Look at this. It's the biggest gas station in the country. We got to go there, man. You walked in there, though. They think that you were like talent for the day. They'd be like, he's here, put him on the, put him up there, take pictures with them. They would trap you and make you think like you're the attraction. Now if you go to a small guy station outside of the city of Nashville, that's where, you know, you should probably
Starting point is 01:37:51 But they're not going to kill me. They're not going to kill me. You never know. See, they do. They all like, they praised this beaver outside. It used to be an Asian guy and they would put them up on the poster, take photos with them. So if you go there, they'd trap you and they'd keep you. Yeah. You don't want to do that. We'll have to pass. Well, they actually had one in Japan. They opened one of those and then they ate them. They ate that gigantic. They ate the whole fucking thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:13 You know what I mean? Look at all that. Look at that guy's dude. That's Merck right there. But do you think that, like, I'm single now? You think the white chicks out here would like me or no? I think they want to experience you. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:38:23 Are there any white girls out of natural? You know what's rabbit style? You know what's rabbit style? Explain that. You know what I'm like a sewing machine when I'm in there. Like a fucking thumpper. You know, it's good. They love it.
Starting point is 01:38:32 You know, you think I'm good? I think you're, you know. I think you're something. Hey, man. I love it to be here. You're a good guy. That's weird. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:42 Earlier I gave you a little touch. You were a little uncomfortable with that. You know, now that we get to, I really like you now. So now we know he's right. What did it take for you to really like me? I don't know. Just something about your sparkly eyes. You have Chinese eyes.
Starting point is 01:38:56 You have your friend up here. You have Chinese eyes. Because I'm looking at you from the nose up. I'm like, oh, dad. When we were talking about how we were going to be seated, JP, he was like, let's put the squinnie-eyed guys up on the chairs. There you go. Yeah, I do get made fun for that.
Starting point is 01:39:08 No, what? It's a beautiful look, dude. Yeah. You like it? Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's so, like, fucking old old. It's, what's good about it is my wife, she's half Filipino and I have, you know, smaller eyes on her.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Dude, she's half Filipino like my ex-girlfriend. Fuck, yeah, dude. What's the other half? You know. Good old-fashioned? Yeah. Yeah, regular. You know.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Good old-fashioned, what, Christian? It's good old-fashioned regular wine. You guys are very good flavor, though. What, good old-fashioned white? Your flavor will never go away. Just chicken breast? Vanilla. Regular chicken?
Starting point is 01:39:36 You never go away. Unseason chicken bread? I'm like fucking some weird thing, like leachy fruit ice cream. You're bulgogi. You're a little bowl of bulgogi. It looks awful, but it tastes delicious. That's what exactly what you want. It tastes fucking awful.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah, but also, like, everyone will always want to sample you. That's right. You know in the malls when you get the little Asian restaurants? You always want to go sample. No one's on unseasoned chicken and handing that out. Nobody wants that. But if they go a little bit of bagulgi, I'll taste it. Have you been to the Philippines or no?
Starting point is 01:40:02 No, I haven't. You got to go. What island is you from? Do you know anything about? You know, one of them. So sad. There's so many islands. That's what I hear.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Like, her mom, like, she grew up around, like there's like 12 of them. But they were like, shit. You want to say gooks, huh? No. No, but they would like, you know, their bathrooms are like, fucking holes in the ground.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Yeah, no, we too. We too. We too, dude. Yeah, yeah. He does that now at his house. He has bathrooms outside. Yeah, just to keep her humble. Well, you know, my, so my mom's house,
Starting point is 01:40:31 which grew up in Seoul, Korea, right? Mm-hmm. Ten generations grew up in this, like, a little rice hut up there, right? And I remember as a kid, the bathroom is a hole in the ground. Right? And when you look down, you just see hundreds of years of pool.
Starting point is 01:40:45 So my great, great, great, great, great grandfather's pool was down there. History. What a disgusting story. But every 50 years, somebody jumps in it, right? Isn't that somebody from the family? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they jump in. The least achieved has to jump in the hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:58 You guys have some strict, like, you guys got to accomplish a lot to, like, move up to the family. You go in the hole and then they put the lotion in the basket. That's so you get back up. But even the grades in the report card, it means something different to the Asian parents. Well, like what? The A means average. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:41:12 B meetings. C. Coma. D. F. Fuck it. The whole family dies. Did you know that?
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that script. I remember like I gotta see it in that. You got to me for a week. They used to beat the shit out. You were terrible in school. Oh, it was terrible. Yeah, terrible.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Yeah. You never got above a B. You know, white kids would cheat off me. I would shoot off the, you know. Stephen Hawking? Whatever this is. Even Hawking. get in trouble, but whatever this is.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Yeah. A dancer. A dancer. A dancer. Broadway. You can't say that anymore. Were you not a good student? I got all left. Really? I didn't meth at 12 or whatever. Are you being serious? Is this a fucking real thing? I got sober when I was, I went to like three rehabs before I was the age of 17. He was smoking meth when he was like 13, 14 years old. Yeah, yeah. That's no shit? Yeah, yeah. How do you, how? You buy your money, right? All America. San Diego has a lot of money, a lot of rich kids, a lot of drugs. So you came from a lot of wealth.
Starting point is 01:42:08 My parents were rich, but my dad would have a They had a safe. Right? But he always forgot the code, so he would have to leave it open with a little, a little, whatever,
Starting point is 01:42:17 a stop. Like a wedge. A wedge. Yeah. That would just open up and just grab hundreds of dollars. You guys around San Diego doing meth. Like,
Starting point is 01:42:26 I thought meth was just like, you know, small town USA. We would go. Oh, we got it there too, bro. We would break into houses
Starting point is 01:42:31 and there'd be like, you know, meth lab just tore up. Look at this guy. He's like, oh, only Nashville, we have fucking hamburgers. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:36 we have hamburgers in San Diego, too. We have everything you fucking have, I just figured in San Diego you guys are doing the better drugs. You know what maybe? Yeah. What did your friend do up here? Petanil. You got into some bad shit on the other side. I got fucking bit by a mite. A mite?
Starting point is 01:42:50 A mite. Like, you guys want me to take off the hat? You know what a mite is? Hey, do you want me to take off the hat? Take it off. Take it off. Take it off. Is it bad? What's going on? Whoa. What happened there? Second one up there.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Whoa. Whoa. Are you going to die? What do you? No, it's just like a little poison side to go to a, uh... Like now you have what is it's called? of Lyme's disease now? That's ticks. No, like, yeah, that's ticks. It's not.
Starting point is 01:43:15 You can give you lime. What does a mite give you? I don't know. I'm still waiting. Yeah, we'll find out. Who takes over the show if you die from the mite bite? Oh, the boys will in the back. He'll be okay. Who's the most apt to take over? Do you think? Yeah, we also have another host. No, no, we know.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Where's the other host at? He's in Canada. Why? We don't know. Really? It's a little rude, no? He took a bad loss at Arizona State last week and wanted to scurry off to Canada. Yeah, we have a Sun Devil, baby. Yeah, I did read that. Big Sun Devil.
Starting point is 01:43:42 I was going to Arizona State. What? Incredible. Was it? Yes. Best time of my entire life. I wanted to go to a college where I didn't have to go to school. And it was perfect.
Starting point is 01:43:50 I was like, how can I get to California, but also kind of go to college, went to Arizona State. I was on the honor. I was honor student. That's how easy it was. Are you a college school? I was an honor student. Are you a college sports fan? Yeah, but ASU didn't.
Starting point is 01:44:03 We were like, we weren't good enough to like, I grew up in an house of SEC, so it's tough. But isn't that? He's the SEC guy. So it's like I couldn't, we couldn't talk sports. Isn't it surprising that Arizona State can't just put together quality teams? No, it's not. We're busy. We're having the most fun you've ever had.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Why the fuck would you go to practice when you go fucking a pool? Yeah, but you should still be able to recruit good talent. Yeah, and they do sometimes and they never make it to play. They don't necessarily recruit good talent. No, they try. They do try. That's what I'm saying. I feel like it's surprising they can't pull in all the.
Starting point is 01:44:35 He doesn't know what he's talking about. Once they do show up to ASU though and you have the fun, they know that they know that they'll never play football. If you wanted to go to play football in college, it's tough to go there. Why would you go? Well, he's got some proud boy in him with Arizona State. That's right. I think it's a tough school to go want to play football at when you want to go party.
Starting point is 01:44:55 But when you're a college kid wanting to go play football, like you still want all of the bells and whistles that come with the school. Weather, women, party school, like all schools. But you're going to get that no matter where you go. You're going to get women no matter where you go. Crush you, bro. How many women did you get? You could go to, you could go to, you know, Middle West Virginia State,
Starting point is 01:45:15 and you'd still get laid as a football player. You'd be fine. Yeah, but I guess the consensus out there is Arizona State has, like, the number one party school in the country. So I think it is surprising that talent does not flock to Arizona State. Well, we're cursed. It's Jake the snake cursed. He cursed them.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Not anymore. We just interviewed Coach Dillingham, the new head coach. And he's... What do he say? Dude, he's fucking with it. He's one of my favorite coaches I've sat down with. And did he say he's working on something special? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Because we're sticking up. Behind the scenes. Okay, good. Right now we have baseball and golf is our legacy. Well, I think he's going to get the football program going. We got John Rom. We got Phil Mickelson. Some of the best golfers of all time.
Starting point is 01:45:54 So you're a golf guy. Baseball, we have Barry Bonds. One of the greatest hitters of all time. You play golf growing up, huh? Not really. I play it now a lot. Like, I played it when I was a kid a little bit, but I learned it in my 30s. Like, really got to play.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Do you play any sports growing up? A football for like a heartbeat. Then I got a concussion. Then I went right to basketball. Did you actually get a concussion? I did. Real bad. What kind? The one where you throw up. What level? Do you remember what they told you? No. I don't really remember. I got knocked out. Our kicker was gone. And they were like, Santino, you can kick.
Starting point is 01:46:26 And I was like, okay. So they snapped the ball over my head. I ran back, grabbed it. I thought, I'm going to fucking get the first down. I started running and I got shamolked. And I woke up to one of my assistant coaches. Got your bell wrong, dude. And I couldn't see in that threw up through my fucking helmet. Yeah, so you had a real concussion. I was hoping, I was hoping you'd say a number just so I could.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I don't know what the numbers are. There are no numbers. I was going to say, yeah. I was hoping you'd be like, ah, I think the doctor said four. Uh-uh, no, nothing. I just knew it was fuck, I was fucked up for days. And he was like, fuck that, I'm playing basketball. Basketball, a little bit of baseball and then not in golf.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I'm too grown to sports. Now, no sports. He's older now, yeah, yeah. He can't do sports. He can't do sports. He's not a sports fan, huh? He likes video games. He plays Cardo Valley until 5 in the morning.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Ping pong. You're a good ping ball player? It runs in his blood. Yeah. Ping pong. I can play ping pong. I play tennis a little bit. His great, great, great grandfather was an international ping pong champion.
Starting point is 01:47:17 That was a wrestling team, too. I was on the wrestling team. I don't believe. I don't believe you. 98 and then 105. And if you look at my Instagram, you go down there, you can see wrestling photos. So I don't like your laugh, friend. Yo, you got worked in wrestling.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I was, what do you mean? I was undefeated. No, you weren't. Yeah, he was really good. I was really good. My brother was... His brother was... FI. F. Champ, like, four years since his freshman year.
Starting point is 01:47:39 We were very good. Fuck off. No, come on, bro. All right, man. You know what I mean? They're the Lee boys right there. I'm athletic, man. Well, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:47:49 You're not athletic. Look right there. The first one, me wrestling Triple H. That's Triple H. Triple H tapped out. Yeah, yeah. He tapped out. Look at that sketch, man.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Look at me. Yeah, it is. You're not athletic, but you... I want you to... You wrestled. Yeah, but is that interesting that photo? You wrestling Triple H. Yeah, me wrestling Triple H.
Starting point is 01:48:10 One of your best moments of your life, you said. Who not have had other moments? Like what? Wait, let's go back real fast to you saying you're athletic because I, come on, man. What do you mean? You're not athletic. He was on the tennis team in high school and I was on the rest of it. What I'm telling you is he had ability when he was young, but he doesn't have like athleticism doesn't run in his bone.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Like he doesn't run in my, my dad was a professional boxer. Did you know that? He was not. He was not. He was in a jar for six months. Later in life. But when he was younger, he was a boxer. He was like.
Starting point is 01:48:35 and eight. That was his record. He never won and he quit. But that doesn't mean you're athletic. It does not. Yeah, but he means you went on the way. Like, if I take you outside right now, you guys are really pissing me out right now.
Starting point is 01:48:47 If I make you shoot a basketball, we can tell you're not athletic. I'm 51 years old. What's the difference? Athleticism lasts your whole life. Oh, really? Yes, it does. He will be an athlete till the day he's dead. He's athletic.
Starting point is 01:48:57 You're not. John Madden was a fucking athlete through the end. John Madden? Yeah. Yeah. I bet you he could do anything, any sport better than you, till he died. Till he died.
Starting point is 01:49:05 When he was drooling turducken out of the side of his mouth, he could have thrown a football better than you, kicked a ball better than you, shot a basketball out of you. A hundred percent. Real disrespect, all right? And let me say to this. It's not a day. No matter what you say, dude, you have a very small penis.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And just know that. Okay? Yeah, he goes back to this old well. This old tiny well. And you know it's not true. Hey, can you do an Asian accent? I love him. I really do it.
Starting point is 01:49:32 This try. You can cut it out. Let's just try. What do you want me say? Just go, Harrow, how are you? He literally goes, oh, well, he got all... Who did that? Like a parent that's very concerned.
Starting point is 01:49:42 You can cut it out. It's right. Cut it out. Harrow. I love it. Perfect. It's perfect. You gotta leave that in. Yeah, that's like my...
Starting point is 01:49:50 That's like the Team America. Oh, Harrow. Very good, very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're married to a nation. I feel like you can do it. Dirk, Dirk, Dirk a lot. You guys, big Team America fans over here.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Yeah, I love that movie. Yeah, a good movie. Do you have kids? Yes, one. just turned one two weeks ago. Oh, congratulations. Awesome. We're obsessed with her. Do you guys, you guys want kids? No kids. I've no kids. No kids. I have no kids. I have no kids. No girls. This is my child. Tell me, but be honest, am I like your dad a little bit. Well, though you talk to me, yeah? I didn't designate you as my father. Do I take care of you
Starting point is 01:50:21 like a father a little bit? Yeah. I watch over you, don't I. Make sure you get food. He does bedtime stories. I do everything he needs me to do. I am, I am like a pop. You know, me, Asian bedtime stories. Why do you do you do that? Because I want you to stay connected to your culture and your history. I don't want you to forget. It's always like history like in Vietnam, you know what I mean? We went in there too soon. I want you to know our relationship. What? I want you to know our relationship. You teach you about Pearl Harbor? You better believe
Starting point is 01:50:43 that. We read that one first every night, don't we? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It also reads me the script of Apocalypse now. I don't know why, but he just does. You know what? And at the end, he has the knife and his mouth. You know what was the makeup? It's fucking terrible. Yeah. How did you guys meet? We met 15 years ago or so. I don't even know how many years ago, but about that time, 15 years ago at the comedy store. Bobby saw me.
Starting point is 01:51:01 The first night, I was, I was in the original room at the comedy store, and I was sitting next to Leah. Two seats. We weren't sitting next to each other. There's like two seats between them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, no, I love, anyway, anyway. And I go, they go, Andrew Santino, and I go, I turn it to Chris, I go, who the fuck is this red-headed freak? You know, he's a freak of nature.
Starting point is 01:51:25 He's so ugly, you know? Yeah. And I go, he has a little dick, right? And Delia's like, shh, right? He goes up, as soon as he opened his mouth, I turned a deliarder. and I go, yeah, he's good. Like, you just tell how talented he was. And then, you know, we became friends.
Starting point is 01:51:40 And then years ago, you know, my career wasn't going well. So I had this internet show called Talking. Yeah. Which is, you know, I did that maker. And I had him as a guest. And as soon as we did it, we were just... You thought to yourself jackpot. Yeah, not at the time, but I just remember we had good chemistry.
Starting point is 01:51:55 And then we would pod, this and that. You know, I have it with only one other person, Theo. And I, you know, have a good rhythm. But him and I are better. Like, there's something about... about, you know, because he's so, like, nasty and mean and, um, right? Yeah. And just like, um, kind of ugly, you know?
Starting point is 01:52:12 Yeah. And I'm cute as fuck. Yeah. Really? You know, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, I test well. Validation, validation, validation.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Right? Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Our rhythm was, we just knew our rhythm was good when we did the old show together. And then what really happened was, uh, uh, I would do fill in for Tiger Belly sometimes when he was gone. So, Kalila and I would do the show.
Starting point is 01:52:34 show together or I would be a layered guest. When I did my show, Whiskey Ginger, when I started my own podcast, as we were growing, you know, the shows when he was gone and then when I would come back, Kalila would always say, you know, why don't you guys do more together? And then we had joked about doing it. We actually joked about it a few times being like, we will just do a show. And then the truth is, Bobby's dad died and, and he relapsed. And when he relapsed, uh, we had like a.
Starting point is 01:53:04 heart-to-heart moment and he was like, I want to change my life around when I got out of rehab and I really want to like start this thing with you. I think we should actually do it instead to talk about it. So when he got out of rehab, we started the show. And I relapsed again. And he relapsed again. And he relapsed. We were in Mexico. He relapsed and he, I went to go go and try to find him because I was concerned because I had heard that he was drinking because he snuck, he stole alcohol from the bar. And he went up to his room and I was banging on his door and he answered the door naked and he had poop all over his hands. I go, what going on? And he's like, uh, uh, come in. And I can't.
Starting point is 01:53:34 I came in there was throw up like the exorcist. It was like all over the water. He was poop on his hands and puke on there. And I said, you look good. And so I said, we got to go get you some more help. Then we left again and we got him rehab again. And now he's good. He's been sober for how long.
Starting point is 01:53:48 What was the kid? Over a year. Over a year and some change. Yeah. No clap for that or anything. Nobody fucking. Yeah, we're waiting. Oh, you guys.
Starting point is 01:53:53 You white pieces of shits. Why? Why? Why are you going to come in my guys? No. You got to come up my guys. I'm wrong with you. You are?
Starting point is 01:54:00 Yes. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. Puerto Rican kid. Yeah. Your guy here did an Asian accent and said, how to all. You wanted me to do that. That was based upon requests.
Starting point is 01:54:11 I love you, dude. That's really what happened, though, is that when he got clean and we started again, and then we've been together ever since I've supported him through his down times like that, and we got to, you know, we got to keep going on. I just say, I want to say one thing, you know, I want to say, rarely do you find people, especially in the comedy business that will come, you know, will be there for you 100% and Andrew is like that
Starting point is 01:54:35 it really makes me want to cry dude like you know it's so far I've had a tough month and um him and the New York comedy scene LA comedy scene they just all were like calling and seeing how I was and it's just like it made me so grateful about where I'm at and who's in my life
Starting point is 01:54:51 you know yeah and what's awesome too is you can actually feel that like when you guys are doing your show yeah yeah yeah yeah he's got to break it out he's got to break it up it up. I gotta get like, we're getting too much in the therapy and everything else.
Starting point is 01:55:04 We wanted to get, now he's on, we're on the road now for 33 cities and he wants to get laid, but he said he's having a testament to his self, self worth to be celibate for a year.
Starting point is 01:55:15 So he's going, he's going celibacy. I masturbated. You did it. You jerked off on the bus? Are you being serious? Yeah. We said no jerking on the bus.
Starting point is 01:55:21 If you look underneath, because we're in the little bunk, if you look underneath, on the corners, there's tissue paper. Just throw it away. What are you saving it for? I'm going to gather
Starting point is 01:55:30 at the end of, of the tour. You're going to make some art out of it? Maybe. That's okay. You can reset. What if we set? He starts now.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Oh, really? But it's jerking off celibacy. I think it's you can't nut. Yeah, I think you can't nut. But his whole celibacy is no meeting with women. He didn't want to see any women. Well, because it's like, you know what? I'm on the day.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I've been dating crazies. You know what I mean? You know, like, you're just about a couple crazy. Well, you're in bed and they're like, you know what? I can tell you about him. Go ahead. He doesn't like any of one. Are you in the room, too?
Starting point is 01:55:59 Well, this is my brother. So it's like, I know about all that things. No one's going to be good enough for you. That's true. But it's also because you hold the higher stance. I don't want someone to come in for the wrong reason to try to like take advantage of them. So that's, I see that a lot.
Starting point is 01:56:11 It's like these women that I can think like, they're hot so he's blinded by how hot they are. But I know that they're not in for the real. You know what I mean? You can just tell you, you can just tell he's a horny boy. He's a sucker. He's a sucker. You know what it is?
Starting point is 01:56:22 Yeah, he's a pus sucker. But he's got a big heart. So he's like, he's like very giving. Like, he'll do anything. If a girl comes into his life and is like, I need, my mom needs 10 grand, he'll write the check the same day. And I'm not exaggerating. When I first got sober, tell him what I'm supposed to tell. When I first, I mean, Collin that broke up two weeks and then I looked at my DM and this girl from Canada goes, she sent me her bill.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Like, I need $800 or I'm going to get evicted. So I sent her the money. Didn't even know or sent her the money. Didn't know what? Because maybe I can get, you know what? That she'll like me or whatever. You know what? He's a sucker.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I never thought to her again. So if you're a good looking girl and somebody in your family has surgery and needs help. Yeah, if you need surgery, I'll go do it. Yeah, yeah. But so, yeah, so he had a few instances to some people that I wasn't a big fan of. And I told him straight up, I didn't like who they, one of the, one of the people's, one of the persons, was a blackout, which I don't think was healthy for you. Was drunk at what? You black?
Starting point is 01:57:16 Oh, only when we were out. Can I fart? Yeah. You go ahead. Let it go. There it is. There was a girl. There was a girl.
Starting point is 01:57:23 You can tell my bottle's tight. Yeah, right. Thank you. Get a little. He pinches his cheeks. He doesn't want to sound. Otherwise, he goes,
Starting point is 01:57:28 there was a girl that was, there was a girl that was drunk at 9 a.m. right? 8.30. I got coffee. Remember? Oh, yeah, yeah. A dude, drunk as,
Starting point is 01:57:37 and I'm not saying buzzed, drunk at 8.30, 40 in the morning. We had to go do radio. And I'm down getting coffee for all of us. Yeah. Blacked out. 8.30 in the morning. And he's,
Starting point is 01:57:48 he's like, what's a problem? I was like, how do you not? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:55 liked anybody. People can't party? 8.30 in the morning. You don't need to black out at 8 a.m. It was like a Wednesday. Okay. It's all good. Thank you. No, see, I... If I was in here, he'd be in peace. Oh, do you think so? If you weren't in my life, you'd think I'd be in pieces right now? I think if I weren't in your life, you'd have... It'd be a little bit harder for you. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:58:15 I do. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. What does Bobby do for you? brings me anxiety, stress, depression, strife, financial trouble, the Korean market, which is big, because I knew Seoul has a lot of people. So that's a good Korean market. He brings me, he's a loyal, a very, very loyal, sweet friend. And on top of all the love, the snake bit him in the big. Can I finish, you fucking asshole?
Starting point is 01:58:42 On top of all the love that he gives me. I might be able to the snake thing, though. He is easily the funniest person I've ever worked with in my entire life. That's just a fact. Just because the rhythm is perfect. And look, if I'm in the woods and a snake bit me on the dick, go ahead, finish the joke. If a snake bit him in the dick and he was losing his life in the middle of the woods, would you suck that venom of his dick?
Starting point is 01:59:02 He'd die. Yeah, I went this way. I know, I saw. You would. I would suck it, even if there was no snake. The real truth is, whenever he does blow me on the bus. He's the gun shot to the arm and you're like, all right, I'll suck your dick. I'll suck your dick.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Whenever he's on the bus and he wants to blow me, He just goes, he texts me, he'll go, tell me a snake bit you in front of everybody. So I have to go to the bus. I go, a snake bit me outside. And he justifies what we do. Yeah, yeah, that's great. But we're a perfect little pair. We're like the perfect odd couple.
Starting point is 01:59:33 That's why. Yeah, it's good. You guys are both in each other's immediate circle. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting, you know. What I also love about the podcast community is we all kind of grew closer, you know? Yeah. I think without it, I wouldn't know as many people, but, you know, we, you know, an owner for the comedy
Starting point is 01:59:49 podcast community to strive. We have to do each other's podcasts for everything to grow. And I think that exchange has been healthy for New York and L.A. because we know we have DeSafano and Stalts and all those. Samarrell and all those.
Starting point is 02:00:01 We did it as an answer to the business because we were tired of the business telling us that we could or couldn't do shit. So we were like, okay, fuck it. We'll just make our own shows. We'll grow them together. We'll have other comics that we know or even that we don't know
Starting point is 02:00:15 and grow the audiences. And then now look, now we're on a tour where we're doing 33 cities. We both do stand-up, so you get both of us doing 25, 30 minutes to stand-up. Then we do another hour and a half, if not more, of bits from the podcast that we've done over the years.
Starting point is 02:00:29 We interact with fans. So it's like we grew this new audience. We already had stand-up audiences. We grew like another chunk. So it's changed our lives in a way that's so happy about. May I? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Also, what's great about it is, you know, me and Andrew have been in the business for a while and you have these gatekeepers in L. And New York, they're everywhere. 12 people, like club, you know, people, Montreal, I mean, also like television and what podcasting did was because, you know,
Starting point is 02:00:57 like when I audition for something, I'm fifth. Right, they're going to always either Ronnie Chang, if he can't do it, Jimmy, oh, yeah, you know what I mean? There's like a, Randall Park, right? There's a list of like, you know, I mean? Oh, you know what I mean? No. That's Randall Park.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Oh, I get it. Yeah. And, and so, but by doing it ourselves, I kind of cut the line and I show people, I mean, I'm the number one Asian guy. Do you think you're number one right now? You think you're number one? I mean, if you look at the funniest Asian guy, you know, in ranker or whatever. Fian, funniest Asian, what?
Starting point is 02:01:28 Funniestest, Asian comedians. I'm on the list. I think we're going to do the Asian community. We got to go Asian entertainers. No, just do comedians. Comedian. That's so funny. Wait, stop there. Comedians, Asian people.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Ronnie Chang, Andrew Fung. I'm not even on the list. Tatar. He said, I'm not even on the list. Oh, that right. Bobby Lee, right there. But Randall Park is first. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 02:01:49 The list is changed. Then Shang Wang. Then Bobby Lee, you're fifth. That's not bad. You're moving up. You're fifth on the list. You are fifth on the list. Yeah, so, you know, five is not bad.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Who's right below you? Yeah, who's right below you? Joe Coy. Ooh, he would hate that. He would hate it. Jimmy O'Yang, you know what I mean? Ken Jong. Ooh, he would stop real fast.
Starting point is 02:02:09 Joe Kimbooster. He loves that he's above Ken Chong. That it means the world to him. That's my point, though. It's like, you know, you kind of skip the lines. Yeah, we had a friend of, we have a friend of the show Steve Byrne and he says Ask him about the time I broke
Starting point is 02:02:21 Ask him about the time I broke up a fight between him and Kim Joan On the Kim's a comedy, he knows What he said that? Yeah Do you want to see the text message? He did. Can't almost beat the shit on me. Dude, the idea that he
Starting point is 02:02:36 No, no, I could defeat him Because he has Golm's body Dude, look at his body, not a single muscle And he's a doctor's fucking sad And I'm watching a little day you found a film You two fight would be so funny What happened? What happened? Give some context.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Because that's why I said, I go, is this a real story? and he said, yes, just ask him. You're going to think it's so stupid. So this is back when there was MySpace. Do you remember MySpace? And I was always in his top ten friends. Always, right? I was like number three, right?
Starting point is 02:03:05 And then he started booking movies and stuff, right? So then all of a sudden you see Judd Apatow, Will Ferrell, in his top. And I got weeded down to like 23 or something. You know what I mean? So one day we're at Cobb, San Francisco, and I go, what's up, Hollywood? I mean, I'm no longer top 10.
Starting point is 02:03:22 He goes, hey, buddy, you know what I mean? Fuck you. And I go, fuck you. And then that's how it started. Myspace. For Myspace, top 10. That's some like high school. Yeah, yeah. I got real.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Hallway type stuff. You like, check your boy if you're not in the top five anymore. You know what I mean? It was crazy. We started choking you. Yeah. And then Steve goes, hi-ya, you know, with the arms, you know what I mean? It was an all-Asian tour. He was an all-Asian tour.
Starting point is 02:03:44 And then, um... They were filming rush hour. Me and. No disrespect. And then me and Ken didn't talk to each other for like eight years after. Now you guys are great. We're fine. We're all good.
Starting point is 02:03:56 It's all love them now. We have, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we love. Bees with, uh, Ken Jong anymore. No, we love them. In the Asian community. They're very, they're all supportive of Bobby. He has no enemies in the Asian world now. No, there's one, but I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Go ahead and say it. No, because he's, he's, he's, he'll freak the fuck out. But there's one that I want, you know what I want, I want, I want, I want to, I want to, I want to, what's his name with? Okay Okay That's a fun game Good luck
Starting point is 02:04:25 You know what I mean But Pushed me in the improv one night And I fell on the ground And made me look like a fool Oh actually pushed you I thought you were like No not on the lineup
Starting point is 02:04:35 No no no no he pushed me And I went back like that And made me like a fool You know what I mean And so then I went Um It's a war Do you just get in fights often?
Starting point is 02:04:47 You seem more like a lover than a fighter. No, Aras Javier beat me up. What you need to know is Bobby, Bobby, and this is known, but he holds a grudge worse than anybody I've ever seen. If you do something like that to him, he will never forget it for the rest of his fucking life. It's not healthy. It's not, but it's-
Starting point is 02:05:04 Because like the Lo-Hoya Comedy Store, that's where I started. And one night I drove down there and they wouldn't put me up. And I go, if you don't put me up right now, because I drove all the down there. And it was a bunch of young guys, though, looking for time, like young-no- No, it was a all-women show. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 02:05:17 It was an all-women show. It's an all-women show. I know, but I drove down here and they said, I said, if you don't put me up, I'll never play her again. This is 14 years ago, 15 years ago. They go, well, okay then. And I never played it after that. I have to fart again.
Starting point is 02:05:32 So anyway. By the way, they found out who you were talking about. Real family. Took almost no time for them to figure that out. Yeah, take that out. How good are you? What the fuck? What are you guys?
Starting point is 02:05:43 fucking scientists. No, he figured the rhyme wasn't that hard. They're highly operative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These guys are young. Very good, dude. How'd you know that? You're good, huh?
Starting point is 02:05:53 He kind of looks like our McCone. Yeah, yeah. Doesn't he a little bit? You always need one of those. Who's this? Our videographer McCone that's out there with us who's on tour. This dude, this is insane. I'm going to play you something.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Yeah, he's like a car. You guys are carny with teeth. We got like a little 23-year-old, a kid from Minnesota who's incredible. He's a great videographer. He's super smart and fast. He's so proficient in, like, everything that we need him to be for the, for the internet's sake. And I got to tell you something about this guy. Didn't think this would be it.
Starting point is 02:06:17 It's been a nightmare. He's on the bus with us. We're all sleeping on the bus. Five in the morning. 4.45 in the morning. He has night terrors. Every fucking night. He wakes us up. Every fucking night. I'll play you. We record them. You know you have an app that record your sleep. Do you know this? If you're someone that talks in your sleep, you can record it. This is every night. Every fucking night. This is him. Every night.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Or he'll just talk to himself. Or it's this. Not no dirty sad, but I don't imagine. Every night. Every night we have to deal with this fucking kid. It's a nightmare. But now we're regretting that we're on a bus. We're on a bus. Like he was in Vietnam. Yeah, he was in. Like he had trauma. You know what I mean? He grew up in a nice home. Yeah, he's like a nice middle class kid from Minnesota.
Starting point is 02:07:15 He was probably brutally molested. We've tried to ask him what happened and he won't tell us. We know something happened. Something happened. Sometimes he'll say, please, please stop, stop, stop. Yeah, yeah. And then one night, the first night it happened. Yeah, yeah. Or no, the second night, I opened my door and I said,
Starting point is 02:07:28 Are you okay, buddy? Are you all right? And he goes, it's okay. It's okay. And I thought, this is something that, this is a regret, something happened to him. So now, just to like get him settled in, Bobby and I will assault him in the middle of the night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, just to, you know, if you're going to make sense. Yeah, just to settle him in a little bit.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Very tight butthole. I don't know. What? I don't know. I just said that. I kissed him on the forehead before we go to bed. I went too far. I mean, he's a good guy.
Starting point is 02:07:55 No, but the tour's been incredible. You've never been on a bus tour. Come, check us out. Come to check us out. Yeah, come see us. Yeah, yeah. Dude. When does this come out, by the way?
Starting point is 02:08:03 Next. Next. I like you. Can you come into L.N. do my podcast? Absolutely. You got to come. Absolutely. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:09 And by the way, yeah, I'm a big fan. You can cut this out. You can cut this out. What? Okay. What would? Because I'm not informed. I'm like half.
Starting point is 02:08:17 I love. We've got, we've already decided that we have some cutouts. You have to, yeah, some of it. But this is, I'm only half informed. I'm, I'm more internet than him, but by phone. But this whole Jeffrey Starr thing, did they fuck? See? They did.
Starting point is 02:08:32 That's like you and I. We joke about all that stuff, but we do. What? We fuck. Well, whatever. The internet needs to know. Yeah, we do. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:41 I wish you was here. When I told Taylor, I was like, hey, man, the boys are going to be, I just got pitched this morning that they're going to be in Nashville. And I was like, we have to accept. I know that's painful to hear. and he's like, dude, I have so much fucking FOMO, but obviously you have the most. Well, we love you. I know he's not here, but we love you.
Starting point is 02:08:56 And I will say this. I went to Kid Rock's bar this morning with my friend Piggy. And they bring your case. They had a ton of mud light, dude. They had a ton of Bud Light. So Kid Rock, you're a fucking liar because I know this, and this is his territory. Doesn't he live here?
Starting point is 02:09:10 Oh, yeah. I'm calling you out, Rock. This is his backyard. I'm calling you out, big dog. There was so much Bud Light at your bar, boy. I don't know what you got going on, boy. He's a full-on replica of the White House that he lives in an amazing. mansion here in Nashville.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Yeah, I did hear that. You guys know him? Has he been on the show? Would you ever have him on the show? Absolutely. Yeah, why not? But would you make fun of that or no? Would you hold back?
Starting point is 02:09:31 Yeah, I mean, you'd want to ask in the best way possible, like, how to figure out how to get around some of these questions. You know how it is when you have a guest on. You're trying to feel him out. Like, we don't know him. Yeah, but I would call him out for that shit. That was so whack. I thought that was so fucking whack.
Starting point is 02:09:43 We made fun of him on our show incessantly because I was like, we did a whole bit where we're like, what's really going on, Kid Rock? Did you stub your toe this morning? Is someone you know in your family like, said, did the dog not come to you first? He went to your wife this morning. Like, what all happened? He's not mad about the person on the can. I don't remember their name now.
Starting point is 02:10:03 He's more about all the other shit. And something's going on. It's the politics. Yeah, but it's also like, no, I think life is what gets people more mad. But it's like him wanting to stand on a certain side of the fence. Gives a shit, dude, it's beer. But what I'm telling you is if he came on and you just do that right there. I would right away.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Yeah, but then you're not going to. I'd walk him. You're not going to air the pot. No, I'd air it. He'd walk and then we'd air it. Just because, like, it's way more fun for us. You would kiss his ass. Nah, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Yeah, you would. Nah. You're Hollywood, baby. I am? I'm Hollywood. Yeah. You're more Hollywood. That's his house?
Starting point is 02:10:36 That's what he's building currently. It's supposed to be a replica of the White House, but it's here in Nashville on a 200-acre property. It's like seven miles. He's like the white Kanye. I can't wait until he goes on like an anti-Jew rant. He's like, on the roof of that being like, what's up with the Jews?
Starting point is 02:10:55 Waving an American flag. But also the whole cutting stuff out of a pod if you're going to. Yeah, no, no, no. But that's something that you have to joke about because it's so extreme. I don't disagree. I don't disagree with joking about it. You know out of your way to like make a viral video. That's not like I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:11:11 That's like I need you to see me shoot Bud Light in my backyard. And he opens the video by going, Daddy's feeling, if grandpa's feeling frisky, you got to get some consistent. consulting on some of that. I mean, that's like the... I laughed immediately. Yeah, absolutely. And then I thought, oh, this is a bit. He's working with Bud Light. Right. Which I still think it's a conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:11:31 You think what's a conspiracy? I think the whole thing was a conspiracy. I think this was for Bud Light to raise their stock. Didn't it drop? No, it went through. Look at it now. Look at Bud Light stock right now. It's higher than it's ever been. So it dropped and then just fucking took off. The roof. I should have bought... We talked about it last night.
Starting point is 02:11:44 Yeah, we talked about it. At TGI Fridays, while we got a fly in our... It was a flying our TGI Friday. I mean, ultimately, it's like, are we in a fucking Mait. tricks. We are. 65-43. Look at it. Look at the graph. Look at the chart. We're back, baby. He said we're back, baby. You're rude for your, you're pro Bud Light. I'm pro Bud Light. See it dipped. It went right back. It's going to continue to climb. So if you're buying stock, buy Bud Light. This is Money Watch. Yeah, that's three months. Huh? That's the three-month graph.
Starting point is 02:12:10 And look at it now. Wow. We're moving, baby. We're good. It's going to keep going up. Are you invested in Bud Light? Maybe. I can be. I'm not going to, I wouldn't stop. Look, I'm not going to, I think this is like the perfect thing to do is to tank it just so people, because all you're doing is begging the market to pull out and then everyone's going to buy it when it's low, then it's going to skyrocket. This is just,
Starting point is 02:12:32 this is what crypto was. Budlice just taking a note from crypto. Yeah. They're just seeing what happened with crypto. I got suck and I lost 10 grand. On crypto? I got smoked. You got in late?
Starting point is 02:12:43 I got smoked. Yeah. Shout out, what's the three main ones other than Bitcoin? What was the other two? Light a coin. Oh, so there was one called Emacs. I got yanked by Emacs.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Did you get into Doge? I got yanked. No, no Doge. No doge. I got yanked. And they're just following suit. This is genius. Good on you, Bud Light.
Starting point is 02:13:06 They hired that girl to be like, we got to get rid of the fratty staff. Yeah, you think that was a hire? Or is that known? I think that was a bit, I think that was them teasing America. Why would the company whose majority of consumers, first of all are those guys
Starting point is 02:13:22 Why would they hire someone To go against everything they've ever done The history of their fucking campaign Why? You're doing that to T-Spe You're baiting people A hundred percent Dude this is the home of Clydesdales This is the home of fucking cowboy boots
Starting point is 02:13:39 And pickup trucks And guns Why would you then be like Hire a girl to be like We gotta get rid of fratty stuff I don't buy it Budweiser, I'm on to you, Anheiser I'm on to you. We already went to St. Louis.
Starting point is 02:13:53 They wouldn't let us in the factory because he was with me. They had no Asians on this. Over at AB. It said Asians need not apply. Did you know Santino's a guy like you would drink a fucking beer with, talking about all this stuff? I'm a big, I would love to have a beer. I love having a beer. I just, I see through the nonsense.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I want to drink to it sometimes. You cannot. I go crazy. No. But as you say nonsense, also brilliant. You see the brilliance in it. Oh, I think it's genius. I'm saying it's genius. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:18 But that's why I think Kid Rock's in on it. I don't know if he's in on it. You think he's that smart to be in on it? 100%. 100% thing. He's a very bright guy. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's doing something.
Starting point is 02:14:31 He's moving some sort of puzzle piece. Trust me, dude. When he was shooting the sign, you think that he was going, I'm going to, I'm doing this. I'm going to buy stock. I think he's, why take the time out of your day if your kid Rock? If you have more money than God to do that, it doesn't make sense. Unless you got some, there's some agenda.
Starting point is 02:14:46 There is an agenda. You and I made a sex tape. that no one's seen yet. We keep teasing everybody about it. Yeah, yeah. We have another agenda below it, and they'll find out in a couple years. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:55 See? We do, yeah. People know, it's coming. Yeah. And they keep going, where's this X-Dade? Where's this X-Dade? We'll see.
Starting point is 02:15:00 I don't know. They go, Bobby's the bottom. Bobby's the bottom. You know what I mean? Andrew's the friend you also got to be weary of because he can, it sounds like he can talk you into anything.
Starting point is 02:15:07 100%. Oh, yeah. I got him here. He had no idea where we were going today. I woke up. I woke up. I woke up. Where are we going?
Starting point is 02:15:12 I put him in the van. I said, we're going to go to do some milkshakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I go. If I tease him with snacks, he'll go. Yeah. Oh, we're in a milkshake factory. Because if I said, we're going to go to Boston with the boys and he'd go, I don't want to do an interview right now.
Starting point is 02:15:23 And he'd go back to bed. But I had to tell him. Can I be honest with you? I'm so glad it came. See? No, far as much. No, honestly. Connections, dude.
Starting point is 02:15:29 Yeah. It's called networking. But we will have to get him milkshakes after this. Yeah, what? Otherwise, they'll be pissed. Why'd you put that? What's this? That's our beautiful photo.
Starting point is 02:15:39 You need notes? Well, you kind of go over them. Yeah, but what is it? Let me see what you've asked so far. How you got the role? Nashville County. How did you get Dave the role? I'll do it for your...
Starting point is 02:15:50 How'd I get what? The Dave roll. Hey, hey, take that down, take that down. Show Dave, show Dave. Tell us about that role. How did you get that role? How did I get Dave? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:04 I went to a synagogue in Los Angeles. And they were holding live auditions at the synagogue. Oh. And Dave was there. Okay. This one. What's your favorite guest? What was your favorite guest?
Starting point is 02:16:21 You're such a good storyteller. And now we're fucking asking about how you guys are roll with Dave. I got Dave. Dave and I met, Dave and I had actually met before that at Baron Davis's charity basketball tournament. He had a charity basketball tournament called Black Santa. Shout up Black Santa. And then a Cassana like,
Starting point is 02:16:37 Jesus was black, by the way. This whole, you know, he was black. He wasn't white. You know, Santa was black. You should Google it. The original Santa was black. Yeah, man, I've watched Friday. Yeah, thank you. The OG Santa was black. But then, uh, Dave and I met and then when he brought me in, they brought me in because he, he was interested in having me be, um, on the show. Didn't know if I was going to be Mike, the manager that I turned out to be because they had a different image of him. Because Mike, the man, the guy I play is a real guy. He's like a, he's like an Afro, Jewish kid. hippie who's like into fish and then Dave and I
Starting point is 02:17:09 started just improvving. We improv like three scenes together. And then he was like, you have to play my manager. Santa wasn't black. Santa was black. Santa was black. It wasn't. Just waste. Google Black Santa. I've never seen any photo
Starting point is 02:17:23 with Black Santa. Watch. Black Santa. In fact, I've never seen black people in snow. Bam, Black Santa. Oh shit, you're right. I told you. Asian Santa. Put that. Though you'll see all kinds of photos. Asian Santa.
Starting point is 02:17:36 There's no chance there's an Asian. No image available. That's not Asian Santa, dude? Look at that. Oh, my de Quirma. What is he giving? Oh, my Cremont. What is he giving you?
Starting point is 02:17:47 What is he giving you? What is he going to give you? What is he going to give you? He's giving you a little rice candy. Do you not the rapper melts in your mouth? Do you get cold at amama in your stocking if you're bad that year? What? You get cold at amami and you're stocking if you're bad day?
Starting point is 02:18:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get lumps of cold out of amami? Yeah. There's probably down syndrome Santa. Google that. Down syndrome Santa. Let me see the varieties.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Well, how many do they have? Yeah, the internet does have a lot of stuff. Dude, there, there she is. There he is. They have it all. Bingle gels. Bingle gels. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Ross be a good guy. No, you're, that's the Asian. That's the Asian. You're doing Asia. Anyway. Yeah, that's how I got Dave. I did, I auditioned the traditional way. I auditioned the old school way with Dave.
Starting point is 02:18:41 We did a bunch of improv scenes together. You feel like a lot of your shit blew up after Dave? I don't know. I mean, I think it's been like a steady climb. I haven't had like a... He's killing it. I haven't had like one of those, you know. No, it's been like a good, fun.
Starting point is 02:18:51 He's been a great ride. He's killing. He's killing the game. Yeah. What's dope about it is I feel like you just get to be you in each fucking... Yeah. Yeah. For the most part, I get to let. I'm doing, I did a movie that's going to come out at the end of the year where I get to be, a different, you know, I get to play
Starting point is 02:19:06 a little bit something else with Zach Ephron and John C. He did a great movie on Netflix with Kevin Hart. It was great. What's it called? It's called MeTime. Yeah, yeah. He's jealous. He's jealous. He's because Kevin won't work with. So you're on Pineapple Express. Yeah, it was. I did a movie with Kevin Hart. What was it called? Borderlands. Oh, oh, no, but you're not in it.
Starting point is 02:19:26 I know. I just did ADR. I'm in it now. They put you back in it? They put them back in. They cut them out and they put them back in it. They put me back in. They put me back in. It's okay. Yeah. But at the Seems funny. He comes back from shooting and like, where are you? Budapest. And he comes back.
Starting point is 02:19:39 And he comes in the studio. And he's livid. And he's like, I'm not even in the movie. And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, they had me wearing a helmet the whole fucking time. You don't even know it's me. Yeah, they had me in a helmet. And then I go, can I take it off?
Starting point is 02:19:54 Because my, the soldier, because I'm in space. I'm a space soldier, like a stormtrooper. Okay. And they go, can I just take it off? They're like, no, keep it on. So I'm doing lines with a helmet on. I go, well, you could have just got anybody. Right?
Starting point is 02:20:06 But then at one point, I do take it off. But your essence is what they needed. Right. That's what they needed. Anyway, thanks for having me on. It was really good podcast, and I really like you guys. I love the bus. Hang on, hang on.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Before you get off, you got to tell us one pet peeve. What does the pet peeve? We got a peep of the week. It's called Peep of the Week. It's your favorite pet to snack on. Oh, I love dog. Yeah. No, I have four dogs.
Starting point is 02:20:30 I love them. They're my freezer. Anyway, I know, I'm kidding. No, I love animals. What is, no, it's, explain to me what a pet peeve is. It's your thing that annoys you the most. Something that annoys you. So mine last week was people turn, not turning left at a stoplight.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Like when it's yellow and about to turn red, they're not out in front of the white line to turn left. Oh, that is a good. That's a good one. I think mine is, um, oh, I got one. So, you know, if you're in a group, right? Okay. And you're in line at like a restaurant or something to order, right? Order together.
Starting point is 02:20:56 Don't go individually. That's a fucking, it takes forever then. Right, right, right. Right. So what I do is if I'm in line, right? I go, if I'm with 10 guys, I go, I'm just going to get it. Because the people behind us. I don't want to fuck it up.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Yeah, but that's wealth privilege. Not everyone can afford everybody else's shit. You're talking like a rich guy. You're a fucking rich guy. Oh, then do it individually. You're right. Do it individually. Guys, I'm going to buy this one.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. At McDonald's, you can't, $20? $30? You know, three or four guys? That kind of money. $40? Some people need $20, man.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Some people can need it. Or how about this? Pool your money together. Let's pool our money together. Or I'll buy it. You guys all VINMomi. I mean, there are options. There are ways.
Starting point is 02:21:42 That's what I'm saying. I agree. You're getting very loud. You're getting very loud. Because I'm very passionate about my pet peeves. I have another one. Give another one. Another one is like, you know, people make judgments on you on the internet and they
Starting point is 02:21:52 don't even know who you are. That's a big pet peeve. Yeah, yeah. They don't know you at all. Yeah, I'm a good guy. Yeah, you are. What's another one, babe? Another one?
Starting point is 02:22:00 Yeah. Don't do wives tales. Don't do wives' tales. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Because my dad used to make up wives' tales. And then I'd Google them and they're not real. Like what?
Starting point is 02:22:12 My dad used to go, if you... Because I used to watch the TV really close. And my dad would go, if you watch TV that close, but I'm going to die. And I go, and I go, I turn out and go, grandpa's dead already. He goes, you killed him. And I go, what? How do you know that's not true?
Starting point is 02:22:29 It could have been. Yeah. He died before I was born. Both of them. Yeah, but your grandpa knew that you were going to watch too much TV. Oh, he was a fortune teller.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Yeah, you're a lot of soothsayers. Yeah, yeah. What about you? Peppies. I'm trying to think, but I thought, he made me think of something else that, that is, it's more of a tip to your, uh, your fans.
Starting point is 02:22:47 I have a little inside tip. Okay. Because I enacted it last night. Last night, we went to TGI Fridays because there was nothing else open. He gets, Bobby, when you go to eat with Bobby, he'll get 15 appetizers. I'm not exaggerate. I'm not even, people are like, oh, 15. If there's 15, he will fucking get 15.
Starting point is 02:23:07 That's what, what are they for? What are they for, though? Let me ask you something. I don't know. What are they for? What are they for? Socializing? For the table. Yeah. Right? And if they have 15 options, get all of it. Yeah, but when they bring them, he goes, here, here, and he puts them around him. I eat a first. Monterellollasks, onion rings, so just all around him. So then he wants to get, we get, last night, he wanted spinach chip and artichoke, Haso dip and chips
Starting point is 02:23:29 pretzel dip pretzel dip Every wanted the legs I was You wanted There was two more There was like two more things Oh yeah chicken strips
Starting point is 02:23:39 Yeah Oh yeah no I know No dumplings Dumblings Dumblings from TGI Fridays But you got Come on my people Yeah
Starting point is 02:23:46 My food You know what So then they bring it out And then everybody's dipping Into the stuff Yeah And then he hears And then I'm sipping my water
Starting point is 02:23:54 And then I'm already grossed out and then I'm like, God, this place looks, I don't know, man. And then I hear, and I'm like, this is a fucking table, table? I thought at first it was my penis, because it makes that noise too. Sometimes it hums when he gets horny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I look at the basket of chips.
Starting point is 02:24:14 And you know how they put that bullshit piece of paper, like parchment paper down first? Yeah. I lift it up and there is, and I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding, yeah. Huge half-dead fly. He's not dead, though. No, he was half dead.
Starting point is 02:24:26 He was stuck in the thing. Like this. He looked exactly like that guy, right? That's his brother avenging his death. But what if he was going? I'm taking a nap. I'm taking a nap. Okay, well, wake up and get the fuck out of my chip. Okay, okay. So then I'm grossed out.
Starting point is 02:24:36 I'm like, we're getting the fuck out of here. I'll eat McDonald's. We got to go. So I paid for the whole thing. We didn't eat any of the meal. They even offer it to us for free. We literally were like, hey, man, there's a fly in our fucking food. And I was like, we've got to go. Like, we'll just tab out for what we've ordered and let's just go,
Starting point is 02:24:50 cancel the rest of the orders. They didn't. They brought him the whole bill. So he paid $125 at TGI Fridays for fly chips. Yeah, we didn't need any of that. It was terrible. So then we walked down the street to McDonald's, and McDonald's was a walk-up window,
Starting point is 02:25:05 didn't let us walk up. The guy goes, we close. And I was like, it says one. What ethnicity was that, by the way? Cuban. Okay. And then. That was the most racial thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 02:25:17 We closed. Yeah, yeah. I said exactly how he said. Is that an Indian guy? It's Cuban. We closed. That's what he said. That's not a sound Cuban to me.
Starting point is 02:25:25 You don't know any fucking Cubans. Name one Cuban. That's right. See? Castro. Fidel Castro. In your face. And how did he sound? If Fidel Castro didn't want anybody...
Starting point is 02:25:37 He closed. Thank you. You're right. We close. We closed. Fidel Castro. Dog? Dog.
Starting point is 02:25:43 Player. Raise the roof. And he would go, raise the roof. So then I said, let's go to the only other place that's open is Taco Bell. We need food. We haven't eaten in 10 hours. We go down to Taco Bell. and their inside's closed, but I said,
Starting point is 02:25:55 I used to do this in college all the time. Tip for college kids, if they don't let you walk up, you wait until a car comes up and you go, yo, can we order with you? We'll pay for one of your things, right? We're at a financial place where I said, I'll just buy this guy's whole thing.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Well, the only guy that came in the 10 minutes we were waiting was an old man on a scooter, maybe 80, maybe 80, on a scooter. And his scooter was barely working. Barely working. He got it from a lot somewhere, and it was like, it died twice in the driveway.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, man, can we order with you because you have a vehicle and I'll, you know, I'll pay. And he's like, you'll, you're going to pay. And I said, I'll pay. He goes, I was going to get me 20 tacos. Yeah, he did say that. Were you going to get 20 tacos
Starting point is 02:26:36 before I said that? And he was like, I was going to get a whole bag of tacos. And I said, okay, man, get this fucking guy, 20 tacos, I guess. Yeah. And so we paid for him to make it easier. Bobby got frustrated and walked away. Didn't like the scooter man left. So he ended up ordering White Castle at three in the morning. Yeah. My point is...
Starting point is 02:26:53 Well, I was in the movies. He's in the movie. Yeah, he was in the White Castle movies. He has to support him. My point is, and this is a tip for your sports fans, when the beer lines are too long, go to the very front, nudge the guy at the front like your friends with them
Starting point is 02:27:06 and go, I'll buy your beer if you can lace my beer with yours. I do this every stadium I've ever been to my life. I've never waited in the line ever. Buy the guy's beer. That way you only have to pay for one other beer. That's a rich man. At most... One other beer.
Starting point is 02:27:18 One other beer. So I got to pay for at most two beers because you're not allowed to have two more than two a person. That's the trip. Guys, don't wait in the line, walk to the front, pay for that kid's beer. Walk home with beer. Thank you. I've done that my entire fucking life.
Starting point is 02:27:30 It's a great tip to give, and I don't know how many people are going to abuse it, but I've never, ever once stood in the line. I walk right to the front, I go, I'll buy your beer. What do you guys want? And then they go, oh, shit, okay, this guy's going to buy our beer. Don't pinch your penis live on air. You get antsy, Bobby? What's my biggest pet peeve?
Starting point is 02:27:46 I just had to sit there. You gave a tip, and you said a pet peeve of, you know, bugs. Say your fucking pet peeve, man. Bugs in a food. Bugs and food. Bugs and food. Dude, you want to know my pet beef? The pet peeve I was going to do is when people take out, like this is not it.
Starting point is 02:28:02 But your feet, no socks. Like when people kick up their feet in front of your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And play with their toes. Like, if I'm watching a movie and somebody's got their feet around you, like I can't even focus on the moment anymore. I'm now trying to figure out how I can kill this person because of the etiquette with their bare feet. Yeah, the feet on a table, feet on a thing. Do you suck the feet?
Starting point is 02:28:22 No, I'm not a Your wife, your wife, your wife. I'm not a stranger, but like a wife. No, I'm not a foot guy. You don't fuck them. You massage him? Yeah, I'll massage him, but I'm not going to. Okay.
Starting point is 02:28:31 I'm just not a foot guy. You get a foot finish. You seem like a foot finish. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. I like shoulders. I would guess that. What are your,
Starting point is 02:28:38 what are your top three body parts? Oh, here we go. I love this with it. Number one. I like one. It means your bet beef. Yeah. Please.
Starting point is 02:28:47 I don't, yeah, please. I like parts that people don't even talk about it. I like the no man zone. What's the nomanza? The taint. Ooh, the gooch. Yeah, I eat that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:28:56 So if I see a vagina, I'll cover with my right hand. Cover the butthole and I go for the taint. Nick, what are you doing? I have no feeling there. I don't care. I love it. You only hook on that little bridge. Huge taints.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Yeah, yeah. A huge strip. It's got to be like two feet. Your bottle has to be basically on your back. The vagina has to be on the chest. Yeah. And again, the butt house would be in the back. If that was, dude, I just got hard.
Starting point is 02:29:15 If that was the fucking. What? No, not really. Not really. Not good. He'll show you his dick. I'll do it on the air. You blur it out?
Starting point is 02:29:24 We'll blur it. Yeah. No, I don't trust. I don't know. You guys blur it out? We'll pixelated. No, you'll make fun of it later and then like, oh, two weeks later. They'll get banned if they put a dick on.
Starting point is 02:29:33 Yeah, two weeks later, Steve Byrne's going to come here. Like, I saw his dick. Well, let me see if I can get it a little hard though. No, no, no, leave it alone. Let it be. Just lipped up a shirt. There it is. Hello.
Starting point is 02:29:45 You know that song Purple People Leader? That's where it comes from. One-eyed, one-hack, fine purple people. leader. That's from that. Let me. Can you blur that out? Yeah, trust me. We're not going to put your fucking dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have a choice.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Okay, good, good, go. Don't show anybody. My pet peeve is when Bobby shows his dick on podcast. This has been great. I love you guys. Hey, hey, legitimately. You guys come on here. Thank you for fucking coming on. Can we come back or? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:30:11 Open door policy. Let us plug. Go ahead, yes. This comes out when? Next Tuesday. Tuesday. Next week, uh, we're going to be in, uh, damn, I'm really bad at this right now. Just because I don't...
Starting point is 02:30:22 Sorry. We'll fill the air. Sorry, this comes out the 25th. Right? Yeah, 25th. Okay, so, hey, we're going to be in Durham, North Carolina, tomorrow night. Then we go to Charlotte. Then we do Texas baby. San Antonio, two shows, Houston, then Dallas, and then we go up to
Starting point is 02:30:38 the Pacific Northwest with Spokane, Seattle, Portland, and Phoenix. Go to badfriendspod.com. Badfriendspod.com. We've had the best shows. It's been so fun. It's been fun. It's been fun. It's been fun. It's the most fun they've had in a live show. Because we do stand-up, and we do bits from the show. The audience hits evolved.
Starting point is 02:30:53 And I end up doing like Dalai Lama kisses. I don't know why. You guys know the Dalai Lama kissed the little boy on the lips or on the tongue? The people have been stuck in my tongue. He's been doing Bobby Lama kisses. So he's been Bobby Lama and people all over the country. I have a sore throat from it.
Starting point is 02:31:05 There's a new variant of COVID. Who his guys? Because of it. Yeah, we've never got one girl. You're trying to stay away from women. Yeah. No, but there's no women want to Bobby Lama him. But all the dudes want to rush to the stage.
Starting point is 02:31:14 They suck my tongue. But look at how long his tongue is. Do it? It's not that long of a tongue. You want any of these guys to Bobby Lama you? Who would you Bobby Lama with here? Got him the mustache over there. Yeah, he's the cutest for sure.
Starting point is 02:31:23 He's so cute. Dude, he is the cutest. You can see the sink in his cheeks a little bit. Yeah, cutie pie. He's trying to have to smile. I feel like he's trying to perk his lips a little bit too. Let me see who I wouldn't hang out with. What do you mean wouldn't hang out with?
Starting point is 02:31:35 There's one of them. Wouldn't hook up with or hang out with? I don't want to see this person. I don't want to see this person again. Okay, I got it. Who is it? Yes. The big head?
Starting point is 02:31:48 The big headed, dude. Because you haven't looked at me once, all podcasts. His culture, they don't look at... What's his culture? You're Ukrainian? No about your culture. What is it? Are you, you're Eastern European?
Starting point is 02:31:59 Yeah, yeah. I have no idea what I am. Why is your voice so deep? A great question. Yeah? Are you nervous right now, Mitch? I am. I know you are.
Starting point is 02:32:08 What do you do for the show, Mitch? I'm a producer. My bad, I love you. Mitch, Mitch, I love producers. Where are you from? I edit up the stuff you say to cut out. Pennsylvania? Western or Eastern?
Starting point is 02:32:18 Eastern. Eastern. Philly kid. Like 45 minutes. Don't fucking claim Philly, dude. You're not a Philly. He didn't say, he said 45, yeah, that's fine. I love you, dude.
Starting point is 02:32:26 But Philly, but Philly, but Philly, but you're Philly. But you're Philly? Are you a Philly fan over everything? Yeah. Really? Hey, Yankees, Ohio State. I'm not a Yankees fan. Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 02:32:36 I'm a Chiefs fan and Ohio State fan. Well, wait, well, I'm a Ohio, I'm a Chiefs fan because of Larry Johnson. What about your dad influence you on another one? No. This is all me. NCAA 14 influenced him. What'd you go to college?
Starting point is 02:32:49 A small school NPA called Susquehanna. Be a Sasquahanna fan, dog. They're D3. Home of the Wild Bucks. Home of the Riverhawks. Riverhawks? That sounds like derogatory statement. We were.
Starting point is 02:33:00 We were the crusaders. No, we were. We were the Crusaders, but that was. You got that had to get canceled, right? Views are going down right now. We're talking about your school. No, no, shout out to the Riverhawks, man. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:33:09 I love those guys. Appreciate that. Well, God bless Ohio State, Yankees. What was it? Kansas Cowboys. Chiefs. So Chiefs, Ohio State. That's it.
Starting point is 02:33:18 What about baseball? I'm not a big baseball guy. Missing out. You're missing out on one of the most fun sports. He's a friend of him. Now that we've got a pitch clock, dude, we're on one. It's the best game. My baseball is probably the most fun sport
Starting point is 02:33:30 to go hang out at football's best sport to see live or hockey, pretty close. Baseball is the best hang I've ever had in my life. I've had the most fun hanging at baseball game. You can go to a baseball game and not even watch it. That's what I say. You don't have to be enough about sports. A big athlete in the bus, by the way.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Yeah. Let's get you to throw one. football outside on camera. Fuck you, man. We got a little... Fuck you, dog. We got a Nerf basketball goal. We can get it like a dunk.
Starting point is 02:33:54 I'll get in there. You can get a dunk. Hey, before I'm on. Thanks for having us on. The bad friends bump. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
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Starting point is 02:34:15 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being and ask questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way. to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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