Bussin' With The Boys - Brendan Schaub

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

Recorded March 12, 2022 | For the second time in Bussin' history Brendan Schaub hops on the bus for a banger pod. Start pod (0:00) Intro & weekend recap (0:00 - 35:00) Schaub interview Starts (36:25) Being dads (42:00 - 55:38) Taking PEDS should be legal? (55:45 - 1:06:20) Getting into comedy & New shows & handling Chris Delia getting cancelled (1:26:20 - 1:45:30) Nebraska vs Michigan vs Colorado & Urban Meyer (1:48:30 - 2:01:00) Goals of Thick boy media (2:03:16 - 2:15:20) Joe Rogan & Nelk getting cancelled/ Donald Trump (2:15:30 - end of pod) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Sport Clips: Sport Clips, the Pros in Men’s Hair. Georgia Boot: Head Over To GeorgiaBoot.com and use Code BUSSIN for 20% off Ikon Pass: Explore pass options at Ikon Pass dot com GetUpside: Download the Free GetUpside App Now! Use Promo Code BUSSIN for 25 Cents Off Per Gallon Or More On Your First Fill UpFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And the boys had a real gritty podcast with Brandon Schaub. Oh, we had a real gritty. We've had a real gritty couple, a few weeks. weeks, bro. It's almost turned into a gritty month for the boys. You know what I'm saying? You do enough weeks. Eventually hit that month piece. Yeah. And we're right, we're right there. Brandon Schaub came on the bus, obviously is just killing it with thick boy productions right now. Talked about all his stuff, whether he's doing fighter and the kid, the king, the sting. And since March 10th, the wing has now come on to board. Delia is back in the cold. Delia is out there killing him. We talk about all of Delia's stuff.

We talk about Shab, how he deals with social media, which point blank, I think he's an absolute liar. But you'll see. No question. Hey, I tell you, he's on that social. You're not telling me that you just have somebody run your social media 24th and you just know, man. I've got to be a tough little deal.

I got a hard time with social media. It's hard for me to tweet all the time. It's hard for me to do it. But your boy gets up and he does it every single day. I'll tell you what, since Barso came when we had that meeting about social media and everything else, it is low-key hard keeping up with like, we got to do this. I got to put this out. Let me just not be a salesman the whole time.

when we put some personal stuff out. It is a bit of a grind. But he came on. It's a two-hour pod dude. We talk about everything under the sun. He is unbelievable. And I hope you guys really enjoy it because that man absolutely crushed it. A couple of things that happened during the week while we were doing this.

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Network marketing, baby. 101. You're going to do that. Then you're going to go. You're going to subscribe. You're going to unsubscribe. And then you're going to resubscribe. Everything helps the boys.

We have done so well in the last few weeks. We've been growing, but it is 100% has to do with you guys. We would not be who we are without all of you. And we want to continue to bring. broad in this fan base so we can just have the dopest crew ever. You guys have been amazing and we love it and we count on you guys to kind of help spread us through this whole thing. An interesting point was again going back to the barso meeting,

we learned that over 70% of our audience isn't even subscribed to our channels. But I mean, we're doing solid. We thought we were doing great. You guys can be doing, you guys got to tap in a little bit more. Ask your audience a little bit more to subscribe the voice. And like Taylor said, hit the group chat. Group chats. You want to pay it forward?

copy the link, drop it in your group chat, say, hey, don't forget to subscribe to the boys right now. That's idea, dude. Just drop it in that however big your group chat is. You know they run deep. We're in several. Yeah, we're in lots. We need to hit our own friend group chats. We got to hit our own friend.

We got to do what we're asking them to do, right? Exactly. You don't just talk about it. You be about it. You got to walk to walk also. Right. Like, hey, if you guys are my friends out there, if you guys are rocking with Taylor and I, you're going to drop in the group chat.

And if you want to be a friend, then you need to be supporting the boys. No question. And speaking of being friends. My man, absolutely. ended Mike Rable this week. He put this man in a coma and told his wife, Jen, and the doctor told his wife, Jen, I don't think he's going to make it.

He might not make it. Will put out this fucking, by the way, for those of you on Twitter who look at our shit and think we're being serious, shut the fuck up. We're not. Hey, we're not being serious. Hey, do us a favor, man.

Do us a fucking favor. They give us a few seconds of your time. Will puts out this thing about Brable making the drill go up after he broke his leg or calling him slow or something like that. Yeah. And then Vrable, who only uses Twitter to soil me and will, which we absolutely love it, right?

Especially recently, I feel like, dude, I'm telling you, my man Vrable hit me. Damn near. But he'll hit me multiple times a week about something I put on my social media. Because he loves you. Whether it's something positive or whether it's like, okay, morale police and shit like that. Like the boy loves the chirp. He's an old school chirp. And I'll tell you what, it gets a little tense sometimes.

He's like, fuck, man. He's getting my ass right now. Sometimes in the group chat, and I'm just watching my man get stabbed and I can't do nothing about it. He's my boss. That's why last night when he dropped that tweet in about shows you why you're so slow. Don't get it. Don't get it twisted.

You guys are a commodity. When he first said that, I was like, fuck, Ray's going to chirp me about like, okay, Mr. fucking blah, blah, blah. Very uncle tweet. Yeah, yeah, very uncle tweet. We can get into that. But then he hits I willingly run out every time to go check on Taylor. I've been

busy the last four years. No, that's not what he said. He said, I go out there every time to check on Taylor. And you said, but he also said, I've been busy the last four years. That's why I laughed at it. And I put, do you ever run out there thinking, what the fuck is it this time? Just soiling. So if Rable goes to Twitter, obviously chirps Will.

And Will hits this man with 21 seconds of viral video. Pulls him in says, I don't want to do this for a long time and tells Vrable to shut the fuck up publicly. And you had to be laughing to yourself during it. Oh, I was laughing. laughing the whole time. I was like, I can really, when you made the laughs on the video, it wasn't, those weren't like pre-programmed laughs. Right.

You put that, you were laughing like, I can't believe I'm about to do this for the hell. I know, because I pause for a second. I'm smiling. People might be thinking I'm setting it up and I'm thinking, am I really about to do this? But I was thinking to myself, there will never be in a moment where I can get rabble like this. Like, he's chirping me right now. Everyone's thinking I'm dead.

And then boom, I come back to life like the fucking undertaker. I lean up. I just tell him to come take a walk with me. I'm laughing. I'm giggling because he did a good job. He did. He's a great chirper. But he didn't get the long game that was happening.

Yeah. No doubt. And all of this that brought this up was a jobo from Michigan. During Pro Day, which we were there, by the way. He can tell Will had a great time because his jersey is hanging up in the back right now. But a jobbo during his pro day. Is that hurt? He just says like I hung.

I mean, you hung the jersey. What are you talking about? Don't act like I'm just selling myself out for Michigan. We might do housekeeping right now, but you got the thing going on. I know I feel you, but let's not. I see that laundry on the ground. I get a twist here. laundry on the ground.

Taylor ripped this one down and put up the Michigan one. He's lying like a rug, dude. He's lying like a rug. You see Taylor doesn't have his up. I said, hey, put your Nebraska one. I would, by don't have my thumbtacks. I was going to put it up, but I didn't have thumbtacks. That's the fucking deal.

So a lot of people were upset about Ajabo when he tore his Achilles. A lot of scouts. That sucks, by the way. Yeah, the heart really goes out to that dude, man. It really does. He's supposed to be a top 15 pick. And then obviously, unfortunately, he's going to drop in, in the draft.

Right. Like just the reality of the reality of the game. I'm sure he has insurance and shit to cover it. What's crazy is if he doesn't have insurance, the school, you know,

I'm sure they would doing it right, but the school doesn't have to pay for any of his shit. Isn't that crazy? He'd be on his own if he doesn't have insurance. Yeah, but whoever drafts him

is going to help him out. Correct. Correct. So there was a couple people that are upset about this. Will, you said, to the young guys, don't ever get it twisted.

You are a commodity. And another one was that our producer Blas put up says something about this being fucked up. Here's the deal. It is a business. Like all those coaches, like no one's just a heartless person. I'm sure there's a couple of sociopaths in that group right there.

Maybe, you know, everyone's got them hanging out around. A couple of crazy people. Yeah. But the deal is, and Will, you can talk about this too. When people get injured, like when I'm on the field and I see someone get injured, you go to check on your boy. When you go to check on your boy, the first thing you're hearing from the refs, from the training staff is get the fuck back.

Get back. because the last thing you want to do is not allow this guy to get help, maybe accidentally interfere, maybe a trainer like trips, falls on this guy and he's got a torn Achilles or maybe a broken leg. You don't know what's wrong with the guy. You just saw him basically get shot from a distance, and now he's on the ground. So these scouts, I'm sure they felt bad about him. I'm sure, like, but the whole walking away thing,

it's kind of, it's a fucked up deal, but what are they going to do? You know, what are the scouts going to do in that situation? I mean, there's like the human element, right? Like, you'd almost like to see, like, the dude who's just kind of standing there next to him. Like, somebody react and just yell to get, like, somebody to come over. Like, you just see somebody, yo, he's just dropped right now. Like, everyone's just kind of standing there. So I get, like, the whole lack of empathy thing.

There's like, there's like a few different elements. And then, like, my tweet where I'm like, to the young guys, don't ever get a twist of your commodity. That's more so, like, you see everybody arguing saying, here's what should happen. Here's what shouldn't happen. Which is what social media does all the time, right? Like, all they should be this way. This is bullshit that this is what the NFL. is like they basically paint brush that this is the entire NFL.

And that's why, you know, we're in the group child with Rabe last night. And Vrabe is somebody. He's like a coach who runs out and checks on his players. But people like paintbrush the entire NFL. Like this is, this is crazy that this is just a cold-blooded business. Well, the reality of it is like it is like it is straight up business. That's aside from just this 10-second clip of, I don't want to butcher's name. How do you say to again?

A Jabo. Of this 10-second clip of a job. But I feel like people are like, damn, it's kind of fucked up that nobody's. like yelling for a trainer like trying to like at least put your hand up maybe a trainer's right there um and the clip kind of goes away but it's just like a shitty situation for a job oh um but at the end of the day man like that shit does suck and for people who think like uh the NFL is like a emotional personable thing like it is at the end of the at the end of a day uh a business yeah it is and with Achilles like I've talked to a few people about this since it's

happened because we were in Michigan when this went down like an Achilles is one of those things, like there's really no rhyme or reason. Right. The shit just happens sometimes. Yeah. The thing is just pop on you, bro. He's not even a big contact. Like, when you saw Kevin Durant tore it, here his Achilles,

he just did what he does every single day. He takes a little step to the right. Yeah. And that thing just popped. Right, man. So it's, yeah. The same thing happened. It's shitty, man.

And then, like, again, you see something like this and people want to grab their narrative of young guys, always go get your money in instances like this. Because people seeing the side of what the NFL can be. So when guys, aren't signing deals or they're holding out or it's a big negotiating game being played and fans are upset that a player won't be loyal to a team or a little to this cause or a little to that cause. It's like all of this stuff is a reason why you always have to understand like we are a commodity

and we're also obviously leveraging the NFL to get as much out of it as you can as you put your body on the line for stuff like this because this type of shit happens, right? Yeah. And like fans are not fancy something like this and they're all up in arms. And it's like also remember like this is the same have the same kind of energy tempo, whatever you want to call it, when you want your guys to stay and guys are kind of playing a hard ball, not being or not being quote unquote loyal to your team or signing back right away. Right. When I was going through my contract negotiations in 2016, a big reason for a while like, hey, OTAs and stuff like that when contracts were really heating up that negotiation, the last thing I wanted was to go out to practice during an OTA practice and do something to my body. Exactly.

Because then immediately that contract's at the window. Like a bad guy to people To fans who when you're not showing up It's like why isn't Taylor gonna be here? Blah blah blah blah Which you can like empathize with But at the end of the day man Like this is a fucking business

It really is And to David I don't know if they'll ever see this video I hope someone shows them this Like when these types of things happen It presents a lot of things There's a lot of fear involved Of we're gonna get drafted now What's gonna happen from a money standpoint

The biggest thing we can tell you Is it's not how you start buddy It's how you finish And you have a couple things on your side. You're really young. And when you're young, you bounce back super fast. I've seen five-year-olds eat it and they get up no problem. You have, you have being young on your side. If you handle this train the right way, handle your mental is the right way. This is not going to affect you long term, buddy. You're going to be fine. You're not 30, 31, 32 years old.

It's not like one of those things where like this is a career ender for you. Achilles are tough. Everyone knows it is. Takes away from some bend a little bit. You're going to have to work on your entire career with the scraping, making sure it's always. Working the way it is. And then sometimes when you have an issue on the right ankle, now you're left hip or the whole body is connected. So you have to really stay on top of that. For you, stay positive. This is, this is the most important time you have right now is to work on yourself mentally. The physical is going to come. You're going to bounce back just fine. But if you stay mentally into it and work on yourself so you don't go in this deep, dark place, it's not going to be as hard. It's

going to be fucking hard. This shit's going to suck for a long time. Six months is a long time. and that's coming back fast. Don't rush it. Make sure you're 100% ready when you come back because that's the kind of stuff that when you come back a little too early and you're like, damn, that's where the mental stuff gets in.

Am I going to be this guy? What happened to me? Am I strong enough? Do I have the bend? All those questions are going to get answered and you're going to be fine, but dealing with it from a good timeline and handling yourself from the neck down, dude.

I'm sorry, from the head and then the neck down. That is the most important thing, buddy. So hopefully someone says this, I'm going to reach out to him. Obviously, he went to Michigan. I need to reach out to the kid, and I'm sure he's got a bunch of loved ones reaching out to him too. But where you get drafted, it doesn't fucking matter. I'm an example of that, and Will is an example of that.

You can get drafted in the first round. You can be undrafted and everything in between. Wherever this shit happens, wherever you go, whether it's second round, third round, fourth round. Hell, if you go and draft it, it doesn't fucking matter. As long as you make the most of the opportunity you get, buddy. Yeah, you're young too, bro. So, and what matters mostly is getting to that second contract anyway. So you got a shitload of time.

new CBA the way they did in 2011, shout out our shit-ass NFLPA. The way that stuff works now, you're not going in and getting paid the most elaborate money in the world like they did with first rounders pre-2011. Now it's everything slotted. You're going to miss out a few million bucks, dude. I don't know how to tell you any other different. That's a shitty deal. But it's something you got to recognize and come to grips with.

Fear can do two things. You can either run from it or you can work through it and pass through it and become a better person for it. I'm stoked for to see how you come back. What else was good stuff, bro. Thanks, buddy. Because I love the boys and I want to make sure they're all right. You know what I'm saying?

And usually what happens is like you bounce back from this and you get to the other side of it and you start tasting success and everything else because you're going to handle it again. They'll either break you or it'll make you, right? And then you're going to look back and you're going to see, you're going to think to yourself, that's one of the best things that could have happened to me because of how much you had to develop, how much adversity you had to go through to where it builds up your character on the other side of it. Right. But yeah, dude.

Yeah. And I mean, that's just tough. It's going to be a weird pivot going from here too because I'm about to do another call to action from you guys. That I really need. Yeah, if you guys are watching right now, again, watching on YouTube, please take five seconds for the boys just to hit that subscribe button. It helps the boys out a lot.

But yeah, that's our quick little call to action right now. One thing, personal friend of mine, big fan of actually, Marcus Marriott just signed a two-year deal with the company. Did he fucking really? Let's go. That's standard. And let me tell you something, dude. the mind that Arthur Smith has, the way he's going to be able to put Marcus in a situation,

yeah, they might draft a quarterback in the first round. They might do that. If this guy plays under Arthur Smith, I guarantee he balls. I guarantee he balls out, dude. He is going to absolutely kill it. I cannot wait to see what they do. A lot of people probably coming at me right now.

Oh, what about the first five games with him? This, trust me, dude. Arthur develops every single year. He's the head coach. He's got the offense. I'm excited for Marcus. He's a hell of a talent. And I cannot wait to see.

see what he does. You know Marcus is excited to go play, you know he's excited to go play for art again. Yeah. Art's going to put everything around that dude and make sure he knows exactly what he's doing and he's going to have all the stuff that made him successful in Oregon. They are going to have,

I think he's going to kill it. Yeah, I think the biggest concern is... He might be a little dangerous. I think the biggest concern is why you would have to draft somebody high, though, is because of his injury, a track record. Yeah, I mean, it's been a couple years. He might have learned a couple things from a prehab standpoint. You never know what's going to happen.

I don't want to touch on his injuries proneness because whenever we played, the dude let it out on the line. Like, he always played so hard. Regardless of what you guys thought about Marcus when he was at the Tennessee Titans, that dude, every single game gave it everything he had. He's a quiet dude. He keeps to himself, but no one works harder.

First one in, last one out mentality. Marcus is going to absolutely kill out. I'm a super stoked for him. Let's give him one more. Let's give him one more, dude. Super stoked for Marcus. Let's get into, uh, let's talk about this Michigan trip we just had, bro. We're in the middle of our Boston Spring football tour. He showed up.

Yes, man. We had a great time in Nebraska. It was an all-time. It was a 10 out of 10. Michigan showed the fuck up for the boys, too, man. You would almost say 10 out of 10 also. You would almost say 10 out of 10 for sure. I'd give it a good 9.8 out of 10.

Would you? Yeah, I'm just kidding. That's that red jersey sitting on you. It was a little dicey leading up to it for a little bit, right? Yeah, I was super nervous. They weren't responding a whole lot. Well, Dave Avaloff is a busy man, and he tried to point the finger at me saying I was waiting on stuff from you. It's like, hey, Dave.

I don't know if that's true, homie. Yeah. But Dave, listen. I don't think so, Dave. Dave made that shit happen. Dave Abeloff from Michigan did an incredible job. Here's what I was worried about. When we got to Nebraska and you guys can go on YouTube or any of your audio viewing pleasures

and go look at our Nebraska videos, our podcast with three or four different guys, Casey Thompson, Garrett Nelson, and Scott Frost. Unreal. And not only that, the equipment dudes at Nebraska were fucking awesome. They were on it, bro. They hooked the boys up. I got mine right down here. I actually pull mine up.

They gave us jerseys. And you know what? I thought this was the coolest shit in the world that you just gave me a jersey with my... Like, this is a game jersey. Right. At a school I never played at. And they gave me this.

And they showed us around. They gave us free range of everything. So much so that I was legitimately worried about how the boys were going to be treated when we got to the University of Michigan. Legitimately because it's really hard to top with Nebraska did. And I really... We went to that steakhouse. What was that steakhouse called?

Casa Boniva? Casa Boniva. Hey, shout out the boys of Casa Boniva, dude. If you're in Nebraska, I'm pretty sure they're booked, then you can't get a reservation for like the next few months. That's how booked out they are. They snuck and they got us in, dude. We're in there with, what, a hat, some sweats and stuff like that.

Yeah, like, you can't wear hats in there. We were wearing whatever we wanted. I think I was wearing this shirt exactly. They were fucking awesome. We ordered a few entrees and they basically gave us like the entire menu. They're, oh, we heard the Taylor-Lwan was here, so we wanted to chef it up. Get the fuck out of here, dude. They absolutely were, dude, Will Compton is a fucking king in Lincoln.

We went to the bars at Berries. We stopped at Berries. We ended up at the rail. But we stopped at Barry's hurt the rail, dude. Let's fucking go. I'm talking about so many dicks, dude. So many penises wanting to know Will. A couple guys here and there want to talk to the boy.

But I'm sitting over there for a little bit. And one of the guys go, hey, you good? And I'm like, yeah, why? And he's like, because he's getting way more attention than you are. If I was gay, bro. I'd be in heaven. You would have been in heaven.

Oh. So many dudes ready to do us. Yeah, so many dudes to get in him, bro. But Nebraska was unreal. And I really hope you guys go and watch it on YouTube or go on the audio and listen to that because it was great. And it was really cool to see these guys loosen up. When you're in college, you drink the Kool-Aid. You're 100% brainwashed, not in the disrespectful way.

Like you just, you're told what to say. You're told what to do. There's a mentality you have to be to represent the N or the M when you're there. And these guys let their hair down a little bit and had a little fun with it. So we get to Michigan. And I was real nervous when we first pulled up. we get there dude they sold out for us dude they got willa jersey thank god

they hooked the boys up with jays thank god we we were calling Jack wasn't leaving without getting jays for the boys oh my god he's like hey Wilma I'm telling I don't feel good like leaving and I don't got jays for Garrett and JP I know like Jack what do you want me to fucking do like I'm not Taylor I can't just ask these boys for shoes

and they had these dope like the retro threes retro threes bro threes and they had Jack took him off before he walked in the rain to cover him up That's how much you didn't want to mess up the jazz. Unreal, dude. And they had everybody's size but mine. But I was like, you know what? As long as, hey, leaders eat last.

You know what I'm saying? Leaders eat last. So I had to make sure my boys were all taken care of. Go over to Mr. Spots. Will and I were on a 24-hour fast at that point. It was unreal. I had four o'clock today before. And we didn't get done until five.

25-hour fast. All those conversations, too. Like, dude, you're just so fucking hungry. Like, talking obviously takes out of you. We're doing a lot of it right now. But all that talking, bro, laughing. everything, seeing the boys like, you're so fucking hungry. And we hadn't eaten the entire day.

It was unreal. So we call Keith up at Mr. Spots. Anybody who's at Michigan knows Mr. Spots. It's an absolute staple in Ann Arbor. We get there. It looks the exact same as when I was there, dude. It's a hole-in-the-wall place. And I mean that in the most respectful way possible.

They got the filly cheese steaks. They got sandwiches. They got the most bomb wings in Ann Arbor if you want to check them out. It just looks like a college spot. It's a college spot. That's what I call it Mr. Spots, dude. It is cheese fries, the whole thing. And, you know, your boys are on a diet.

We're trying to find. feel pretty good about it. But after a 25-hour fast, you're like, give me anything and everything, my boy. You know what I'm always on the diet? But sometimes you got to take a break. Sometimes you got a little timeout. Like, all right, I'll pick this type back. Yeah, because you'll go to Ann Arbor very often.

Exactly. I got to indulge a little bit. Taylor says, this is a spot. Oh, this guy's saying this is why I need to eat on the menu. I'm going to do it. All right, quick time out from the diet. I'll get right back on it when I'm done. Yeah.

So, Keith, I go to pay for the meal. It's like $92. Weird flex. And Keith goes, hey, buddy, don't worry about it. I got it. I look at Keith, I go, hey, man, I can afford it now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, let me get this.

So you let me pay for the meal, too, which was fire. But one of the biggest things happened at Michigan. I'm most open you're going to get into this. Nebraska already agreed to, which was huge, but we didn't know it was going to happen. Set it up. It takes two to tango. Set it up. We're in Nebraska.

In my head, I'm just brewing, dude. I'm an alchemist with my big cauldron, just absolutely throwing in spices, trying to figure out what can I say to Scott Frost. to get us marked in with the Nebraska and the Michigan tradition all in one for the rest of our lives. I say to Scott Frost, what do you think about doing a trophy game

between Nebraska and Michigan? Making a rivalry game for the battle of the bus. And this man absolutely hits us with the most beautiful thing ever. Don't even use my words. I just want you to play that clip if you could. Can we do that? Just play that clip over it.

Then we go to Michigan. I'm nervous. I've heard a lot of things about Jim Harbaugh. a lot of things about that man. I mean, he's fiery, bro. He's got over three, over three decades in ball. But I heard he's a unique dude, the way he recruits guys, the way he handles himself, all in a good way.

Because, hey, your boy's weird too. And he's just sitting there and looks at you like this for ten information. And he's got the thick glasses too, so his eyes are way bigger in it too. You know what I'm saying? Like, he is an intense dude that is going to keep a winning program in Michigan for a long time. I really believe that. I know I said things last year with Portnoy, but that's the best part about this podcasting, I can kind of say whatever I want.

we're tracking that statement. Second question in with Harbaugh. Second or third. We show him that clip that you guys just watched. And we said, how do you feel about this? Jack. Now, I hate giving Jack this much credit because we've already talked to him a little bit

too much on this pod. Jack writes up right here. That's tough to read. I, Jim Harbaugh, agree to making the Nebraska-Michigan game the Bustin Bowl. In quotations. And then just align with an ex-by-it. Sign your name here.

we hand it to him. We tell him, we love to do this. It'd be awesome. We show him the clip. We hand it to him. He doesn't think twice about it. He signs that motherfucker. He's a competitor. He's a competitor. And he's ready. And he tells us an amazing story about when he was at San Diego State. And Daytona was their rival. Yeah. They made a flag. But they ended up winning the game. Daytona didn't give a shit about it. They'll be able to hear it. They can just go watch the episode. I'm just so excited. I know. You're so, yeah, you're so stoked. We had it an outstanding time. Those pods with Harbaal was amazing. Blake Corr. him, that dude's got intensity at the ass.

You can just tell he's a passionate dude. He's a young cat, too. And to see a kid sit there and just talk, like, you bring up Ohio State. The reason he wanted to go to Ohio State again, you'll be able to listen to the episode. You can go back and listen to it. But just somebody who's extremely determined,

like, I want to go somewhere where, you know, you're not everything. What did he say? They haven't done it before because I'm going to be the dude to do it. Because I'm going to be the dude doing. He's like, I haven't lost Ohio State. And he just said it with, like, the most swag and confidence, bro. I know. We just fires you up and you see it out of a young kid.

And you're like, you know, this is a cat you want on your football team, especially being young. Absolutely. And the way when we talked to him about the trophy game between Nebraska mission, he goes, it's not going to Nebraska. Yeah, we'll see you about that. But yeah, I love that. I love that fire out of him. You got to love that fire. But, bro, I think that is like the most iconic thing that can happen to bust him with the boys is the fact that potentially a battle for the bus game going on.

It's a bull, whatever you, we'll call it all the things. Every freaking name you can think of, we're calling it that. But if somebody's really hoisting a heavy ass because we're going to get we're making a big dog, we got to get a big dog made. Only old I'm I can pick that thing. But if somebody's just holding up a bus trophy, bro, that we sat there, Askins Frost and Harbaugh and they both wanted to sign off on it. Like, that's fucking iconic.

That's iconic, dude. I'm not going to hit that right now. But we also had the hogs on. Trevor Keegan, right? Trevor. Yeah, I wish we would have got a little more out of him. I know. Trevor Keegan and Zachson.

But to be fair to them, we went out and had a couple beers of the boys later, and they had an of outstanding personalities. You can just tell in that college lifestyle, they're a little buttoned up. I think you guys are really going to enjoy it, though. You're going to really enjoy it, especially the end when they try to tell a story about me. I think another good one was Denard Robinson. Dude, that was my favorite one. And we're just, like, laughing.

The energy is high the entire time with Denard Robinson. And then we get to arguing about that Nebraska-Michigan game back in 2012. And don't forget about Cade, the quarterback. Cade. Yeah. Well, Cade Magnamara. Here's the first one that came on. You know, when we're at Nebraska,

we're kind of like the confused waiter, like trying to figure out where the chimneys go. You know what I'm saying? When we get to Michigan, you kind of wonder if these kids are going to put on or not. He was outstanding. Yeah, bro. He wins into me before we start the pot and he goes,

I'm so stoked about this. It's the first interview I can do where I can cuss. Yeah. Did he cuss? Did he drop a couple shits? He dropped a couple shits. He dropped a couple shits on us, dude. He shud all over us.

It really was an incredible time. And I've been having a lot of fun traveling with the boy suit. Garrett Jack, JP. Like, we've had a good time. My laugh box is empty at that point, dude. I've been laughing too much. It's been amazing. It hurts so bad at the end of it.

I'm talking about core. Yeah. Get a little core in. We just eat good food. But again, and we got one more to go. We're going to go to Tennessee here. Probably in April. We're looking at April because the boy, I'm on baby watch right now.

Baby watch. Baby watch. Baby watch. Baby watch. Baby watch Baby watch Outstanding Will I can't wait

Dog I know We haven't told anybody We have not told anybody yet bro It's the best secret I've ever kept It's the best secret I've ever kept And I'm so proud about that I know I'm proud of you too Piece of shit

Like Charles would finally be able to trust that I can keep a secret now No doubt But it's gonna be wild man It's gonna be fucking wild Yeah But we're gonna get out to Tennessee And again the boy's gonna be a dad I'm gonna nervous for them too

The way Nebraska and Michigan have treated us? Like if I don't walk away with the Vols jersey, I might be a little upset. I know. Hopefully Tennessee's taking notes. Hopefully they're watching everything. They got to be watching. Because I'm sure Michigan peaked a little bit at the Nebraska stuff. Like, oh, we got to do this up right for the boys. And the vols are probably a little upset about me the way I was chirping them on Twitter the other day. After that round two lost to Michigan. That was two upsets in a row from Michigan. It is what it is. Like, they had to get their ass whoop. Hey, sometimes you got to get your ass kick. Because we had to make it in that sling sleepers deal.

We had to win the challenge to win $50,000. be part of it. I want to say there might be four teams that made it. Dang. We get 12 and a half. Then we're obviously going to divvy up to the fans. So if you're watching, go to our Twitter right now.

I'm sure it's out there. We're going to be, I don't know how we're going to distribute it, whether it's Venmo, cash app, whatever the case may be. We're going to be giving that money away to all the fans because you guys are the fucking best.

And remember, you're subscribing right now. You're the best because you're subscribing to the episode right now on both audio and YouTube. I think we should do the big check. That big giant check thing where we give it out to one person. That's just a thought.

I'm just thinking out loud. I'm more like, let's just divvy up $100 bills to masses of fans, bro. Oh, yeah. Start handing it, baby. Start handing it out. It was unreal.

But shout out to the volunteer faithful, dude. Because I sent out a tweet What's that? Okay, no, you're not back by that. I was going to say, now you're playing into him? No, I'm just respected. Because your boy got put in a blender for a second.

And you know, a lot of Valls fans are also Tennessee Titans fans. The Vals fans can get a little They're a little dicey. I reached out to the group chat and I was like, hey, make that video or that GIF of Juan Howard

slapping that coach but put the Tennessee T on it. Yeah. I told Jack to do it. Someone in the group chat did it themselves and sent it to me. I'm not going to say who. I'm not going to say names.

It arrives at Sherritt. You know what I'm saying? Okay. He says to me, I put that thing out there and I said the haters are sick. Dude, my feed was getting absolutely blown up how much of a piece of shit I am.

And you know what did? It warmed my heart. It really did because the fans are so loyal at Tennessee and I know you're mad. I know you're upset about me. You're more upset with yourselves than you are with me. And you're projecting a little bit on me. And I love it because next year, boys, it's your next year.

And the people are saying this is the classic Tennessee way. Never get your hopes up. And there's also the diehards that are absolutely just killing everybody around who says anything bad about Tennessee. Yeah. I thought it was unbelievable. So shout out to the Tennessee volunteer family. It's got to be tough being a three seed and just shitting the bed against an 11th seed.

That does have to be tough. And again, they're not like mad at you. They're mad. I don't know why they would be mad at you other than you chirping the fuck out of them. They're obviously just lost, right? They just lost. Tensions are high. Emotions are high.

You're supposed to be one of the boys. I'm capitalizing on that. And it's tough too because we're for the boys both. We've been for the boys in both Michigan and Tennessee this past year with the shirts that you can go by on a merch store. But that was funny. I did see that photo. Right. Phenomenal.

Way to capitalize on that moment, too. I appreciate that, dude. It was, I got to give it up to my people in the back there that helped me out. I'm not going to say that. I got to give it up to my people. You know, it wasn't just me. I don't do the Photoshop very well. I'm not very good on the old computer.

Yeah. So I had the boys, my boy, Ferret, hooked me up, and that was pretty hardcore of him, dude. I love that. I love how my man, it says, like, it has to be Photoshop that does it. You know what I mean? Like some, you can just grab, like, a simple, like, photo app or something. like that and just add like a photo in. Yeah.

The other things you've got to go on like a goddamn computer. Yeah. The fucking Photoshop this. And even though you're laughing, I'm still believing it. Yeah. Gary goes, you don't have to downplay it. At other news, the Falcons have traded, right? Traded Matt Ryan to the Indianapolis Colts.

We should clap for it. Yeah, I mean, I don't. To me, that's not like that big of news, right? Like, Matt Ryan got traded. It's big for the Indianapolis Colts and therefore the boys got, Nelson, what the fuck? Quentin Nelson. Who the fuck was that?

I'm sorry, that's your boy. I'll tell you what. That was... Yeah, that's weird, dude. My fault, my brain. So give it up for the Indianapolis spolt. It hurts... It hurts me to clap right now.

It really does. Yeah, where's Baker Mayfield going? Who want me? 100% no. Yo, that is fucking hilarious. Baker... Hey, shout up Baker Mayfield, dude. Baker, if you're watching,

because I know you're probably a tier three, you need to come on the bus and bust with the boys, man. Talk about it, dude. Talk about it, because he put his heart out there with a little letter. I feel like it was a little premature and it ended up happening. Like he actually already sent the letter out now because I know they got to John Watson. Which is another terrifying thought.

That guy's a pretty unbelievable. But Baker's a hell of a quarterback. I think whoever gets him, they're going to be lucky to have him. The guy's a stud. And people get all upset because of his antics, how he handles himself in certain situations. But you can't tell me his progressive commercials aren't fucking hilarious.

You cannot tell me that those videos aren't absolutely incredible. I love him. I love everything about him. He's really not that vote. Like, he's not that loud out there off the football field. Like, he's somebody who, like, posts a lot or something else. Like, you know, he doesn't do a whole lot. He balls.

He's a good quarterback, you know? Money May, bro. Money Mayfield, bro. Lots of stuff happened. The Bengals tightened up their offensive line on Lyle Collins, signed with the Bengals. I'll tell you what, the AFC is where the fuck it's at this year. AFC looking DOMA at this year. Where we had on time, Blas?

Oh, we got to wrap it up. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Trent Brown also to the Patriots. Who else we got here? Matt Ryan. We got to wrap it up. I know he wants to get down

to probably 49er stuff. I know he does, right? Who is this? Let's get to the, let's get to the Brennan Shab episode. What about Herbert Meyer? Hey, a couple of things coming out about him right now that are pretty fucking wild.

Yeah, but is anybody surprised? Hey, shout out the jacks, getting rid of Irv Meyer. Good for you guys. if all that stuff's true. If you don't know who Aaron Donald is and you're in the NFL, probably shouldn't be a coach. All right, let's get back to the,

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pulling out those big guns on everybody Whatever they want right Old school actors man like Sean Conner I mean, he died and they still tried cancel him. Didn't he died, right? He died, yeah. He died these days. Yeah, yeah.

Shout out the Rock, dude. That's a great movie. That's a great movie with Sean Connery. But he was talking about, remember he was talking about when he was married if his wife, like, got out of hand, he would slap her in the face. No, he did not say that.

In the middle of interview. No way. And they tried, like, cancel him after he died. I mean, back in the days, he's way different. I don't know. They're trying to try with John Wayne. Hey, Will, Will, Will spends his time on Twitter trying to get canceled.

He says some shit on there. We were flying back from Nebraska yesterday, and this football player is two years sober, and he's, like, stoked on it. And Will sends out a tweet saying, hey, congratulations on two years over. Two years sober, here's to you, and then puts a drink emoji.

We have, like, media people like, yo, what the fuck are you doing? Will's becoming untouchable. He's becoming untouchable out here, dude. Oh, man. Be careful with that, though. Yeah, that's a tough deal. It's wild.

It's canceled, though. You start, you ascend a little bit. Yeah. We're just all about the roller coaster. I do. We're on that tick, tick, tick up right now, dude. Yeah, you guys are ticking up right now, man. But that fall is going to be dramatic. It's going to be fun, but it's going to be dramatic.

It's going to be sad. It must be fun to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the outside looking in, dude. This is here. Yeah. Max Crosby. Shout out Max Crosby, dude. He's about, he's a dude. Yeah, he's a dude. For the Raiders? Yeah, four-year. Superstar. Hey, a white boy, too. Almost a hundred million-dollar deal.

He's the one. He has the wing tattoo on the back of his neck, right? Yeah. He's got tattoos everywhere. He's also got the hundred emojis on his arm. Four-year big boy, money. He got a house, dude. Hey, they got that brink truck backing up. Yeah. Go see him, dude.

Yeah, he's, damn. Where did he play college well? Eastern Michigan. Interesting. Dog shit's cool. Parable school. We put them at Michigan. We put them the first four games.

We put them on there, like, hey, we got to get a warm up in. Oh, that's a tune-up. Oh, yeah. I'm playing the half, and I'm out. No one grows up in Michigan goes on. I'm playing for Eastern Michigan. Yeah, no question. And it's like.

And it's five minutes away from the University of Michigan. Is it really? Oh, yeah. five minutes away. It's an Ipsilani. You're just living there being a little brother down the road. Yeah, you're just kind of chilling. You kind of come to the Michigan parties. Oh, you go here. It's like, ah, I got to.

And you're rocking the Michigan Wolverine gear and shit. Yeah, exactly. Trying to be a part of it. My favorite player of all time. Dude, Eastern Washington? Stud. Dude, a six-foot white guy? Bro, we go slaying.

Slaying, dude. Unbelievable. The amount of numbers you put up. But is it Matthew Stafford? It's Stafford, the guy that did it. Because Stafford also had a four doing that. Cooper was doing that before Staff. Yeah, but he didn't have the numbers like that.

Not record breaking. The two guys that are the Triple Crown guys, right? What's his name from Detroit? Megatron, whatever. Calvin. Calvin Johnson. He was, hey, don't fucking laugh at that, bro. Cooper was still a step before Stafford came in.

It's like saying like Derek Henry, if he didn't have the old line. He was all that he doing it on his own there. He was a dude of all pro, but he just needed that guy, you know, in Stafford. He put up those numbers with that slap dick, whatever's name is. Jared Goff. Yeah, Jared Goff. I tell you what the, he was. That's tough for golf right now.

He's got them saggy boobies, dude. He got that sloppy skinny white guy. His girl's banging, though. So he's doing something right. Yeah, well, he's got that arm. He's got that arm and he's probably got that arm. You know what I'm saying? He's got that two-for-one spash.

These are all good points. He's got ten pockets for real. Big boy got paid. Hey. Hey, so they traded Jared Goff to Detroit. And then some dude on the Rams was mouthing off. Like, yeah, we got Matthew Stafford now. Like, was kind of shitting on golf.

Then that dude got traded to Detroit also. Imagine walking that lock. room. Hey, what's my boy? Jergolfs. Old boobs hanging out. Hey, get the fuck out of here, dude. You know what it is?

It's just business. Yeah, Cooper Cup, though, dude. What? The best way to come out of there, besides that was Michael Ruse. It was tackled before me at Michigan. Oh, old school. Yeah, they have the Redfield. From Eastern Washington?

Eastern Washington. Yeah, they got the red field. The stadium's named after Ruse. Really? Yeah. This is my thing with Cooper Cup. Imagine this is his girl who's married to now. They have children.

But when they were in college, she was like, you just focused on football. I think she dropped out of school to support him get a full-time job. Yes, that's true. Dude, imagine this. If you're investing in an athlete, like let's say it's a stock, a six-foot white dude.

R-O-I. Eastern Washington. And you're going to fucking invest your life savings into this. He's like, I'm going to league, baby. Like, yeah, good luck, dude. She fucking doubled down. Dude has the best year ever. You know, all pro, all freaking...

Oh, and he lives in L.A.? The amount of endorsements is about that. get, he's going to be insane. He has billboards up down the street for me in Calabassey has a fucking billboard, right? No shit. He's going to be that dude eating a Carl's Jr. fucking burger making a mill on just that. I'm proud a little. God, get for him, dude. Just a couple

dads hanging out here, right? Right? Look at a future dad. You got like two weeks. A couple weeks, man, two weeks. Go time. Two days in two weeks. March 27th. God, it's going to be different. I can see in your eyes. I can see your eyes. You're looking at me. It's going to be the best. It's going to be the best. I mean, all this is going to stop, but this is going to be the best.

Yeah, I got two kids. I kind of know the groove now of how it goes. Once you get, but to start, it's like... The first six months is like... You're basically in a Navy-sealed training camp. Like, there's no sleep. You're wet all the time for other reason. Yeah.

You're always shivering. It's tough. Yeah, it's tough. You know, you're always cold. You break your leg, which you keep moving. That's cool. It's a bit of a deal, dude. But it's great.

Yeah. You're going to love it, dude. I don't know how it was for you and this might be fucked up, but that first six months for me, I could do without. Oh, it doesn't count. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I say it's on stage, though, but it's like, everyone's like, dude, it's the best time of your life.

It's like, with that baby come to this world, man, there's an interconnection. They're full of shit, dude. Oh, they're lying. When that baby came out, I was like, oh, I'm Dexter. I have no emotional feeling towards this. Yeah. You're a serial killer, narcissistic serial killer. Yeah, it's like I have no connection with, oh, I'm a fucking sociopath.

This is great. I'm Ted Bundy because I don't love this thing. But it's, it was super connected to the mom, you know? Like, it needs the mom, but you're just kind of. Super connected to the mom. came out of the mom. You're just kind of cut the mom away from it. Like, they're doing.

Yeah. And you realize you ain't shit. The baby needs the mom, the grandma. Right. For the six months, you're just trying to make sure the thing doesn't die, you know? That's exactly it. You're kind of just there to get yelled at when things get too stressful. Yeah, let's hope it doesn't die on me.

No, yeah, that'd be a tough fucking gig. Yeah, that'd be a little dark. That's a little dark. It'd be hard to maneuver. You have, uh, uh, is her family close? Like, are you going to have any family? No. He's got me, homie.

That's all he's got. Which is tough. That's scary. And he has his own kids. But you got my own kids. I got a four-year-old almost a two-year-old. Like we're kind of out of the water. Six and two.

Yeah. It's like, you know. Six and two, that's a big space. Yeah. Four years. Yeah, you like it. It's a six-year-old good to the two-year-old? What you said?

Is your oldest boy good to the youngest boy? The best. Really? Yes. Yeah. Super protective. Monster. Like I took them, we go to coffee and cars in Malibu every Sunday.

Yeah. And then there's afterwards we always get ice cream. And they play in like the sandpit. this little tramp was throwing sand in my son's face the two-year-old and I just see Tiger from the top ropes fucking and just beat your ass boom I just sat there like hell yeah yeah no doubt how it happened no question

dude fuck that little girl doing that yeah man God it's crazy when you see like my daughter will be hanging out with a bunch of kids and they'll be like she'll be four and they'll be like a seven-year-old around and my daughter will be like gravitating towards her she's older she knows what's going on and stuff like that

and the seven-year-old will kind of be like Like, whatever, and walk away. And you have never in your life wanted to hit a kid so bad. You will absolutely, you'll want to fucking take that kid down. Do you flinch of the kid? No, but you'll trip him when they walk by. Oh, are you okay? And you kind of get, hey, she fell.

Yeah, you realize how mean kids are. It's wild. I remember my son. He had his haircut. He's wearing something. And his little friend came up to him when I was walking home school. And she's like, oh, Tiger, I thought you were a girl. He's like, I'm not a girl.

And that triggered me. I was like, shut up. I didn't say that. It was my thought for him. Trigger, dude. You'll find out, dude. There's going to be some shit that happens that just pisses you off. Are you a boy and girl?

I have two girls. I'm trying to get that boy, though. My wife, best mom in the world. She wants to have another one. Yeah, mine too. A lot of people want to tap out after one. I want five. You want five kids?

I love it, man. I'm literally... I have a hard time. I'm kind of ready to be done it, too. But I interrupted you. That was a quick... No, I'm with you. I just love kids.

It's literally what I was meant to do. I feel in the fuck. Would you be able to juggle five kids and do all the... Yeah. The shit that you do. So I moved. You do a lot, bro. My girl's Mexican, dude.

So as far as, like, family stuff, I moved the mother-in-law. Mexican's a great culture of family. Mother-in-law and father-in-law, they're like, I moved, like, bought a house that like a block away from me. Oh, got you. Yeah. That's what you mean, dude. So you got the village.

We got the village. Yeah, we have the village. But then my six-year-old's in jitsu and he loves it. He gravitates towards wrestling. I know everyone's like, oh, my kid's athletic. No, shut up, bitch. I'm telling me, my kid is a monster. Really?

They can't put them with any kid under eight because he'll just, destroy them. So we got to, he's in the 10 and up group at 6. And you try not to be like overbearing and like coach, but I don't give a fuck, dude. You're pro. Dude,

that's like your thing. You should be able to be overbearing. I'm freaking going for it, man. You can't be too hard, bro. I'm drilling with him before the class. And then if he gets 10 takedowns, his favorite ice cream, I get him favorite ice cream.

Yeah. But only if he gets 10 takedown. He gets 9 and you give him the worst ice cream? He gets nothing. No, nothing at all. It's a boom or bust situation. home, he goes to bed starving. Have you, uh, did you ever hear, have you ever heard of the Palmers?

Corrid Palmer, oh, no. Colin Palmer. Uh-huh. Okay, anyway, we were growing up in the circuit, right? My brother was a stud wrestler. Went to Nebraska. Got the ears and everything. Yeah, got the ears just like you do.

We got his wedding, he tried to fuck me up, and he coulda. Oh, yeah. He's like, what? He wrestled. 85? Oh, he's a scrawny cat. He wants senior nationals out of high school. Oh, he's a monster.

But growing up, right, there was these Palmer bars because you know you got the triple crown, the Cliff King, kick off like in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and you go to all these different spots and you can win the Triple Crown. It's like the National Circuit in wrestling. And you had these Palmer's brothers and their dad was just fucking intense on them, bro. Like if they didn't tech kids, they were in trouble and the kid was crying right off. You don't want to be that.

They're training like four to six times a week, like double days. And I'm talking their like little muscle heads coming out. It's like that little Hercules kid that was, I don't know if you were hard on them, you know. But I'm talking about they were intense and they didn't pan out to be like, you know. Of course not. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. But they went to Ohio State. They were studs. But when they were young, bro, and you saw the Palmer's, like, they were in all these magazines, like 15 times Triple Crowns winners. Like, they were those fucking dudes. I bet those kids were miserable, though. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They probably hate their kids. There's one of the top amateur wrestling programs where I live in Calabasas. And I went to look at it so intense. I'm like, I don't want my kid doing this. They're like traveling every week and shit. How old are that yet? How old are they doing that?

I mean, there's five and up. Holy shit. You get in wrestling young, bro. Really? It's kind of like hockey. Hockey, you got to kind of like draw line in the sand right away. Yeah. We were at like Tulsa, Oklahoma for Nationals one year, and Cody was six years old and

ended up like placing or whatever, you know, they're all little. But Rick Flair's there coaching his kid, like, no shit. He's fucking intense, bro. You'll be traveling soon. Yeah, I know. It's really intense. I love it, though. My daughter's super athletic, but I think my wife is not, like, does not compete.

doesn't like to do it. It's not about it. White girl? White girl, yeah. Canadian. I'm just seeing what we're dealing with her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canadian, heart of gold.

Like, she's a beautiful person, but doesn't like the competing aspect of all this stuff. Like, I can, like, when I'm in season, I'm competing with everybody. I'll come home and I'll, like, my daughter would be like, let's race. I'm like, all right, and I dust her ass. 100% me too.

Yeah. And she starts crying and my wife gets mad at me. It's like, she's got to know. Because she'll tell me I'm stronger than you. I'm like, all right, and then we'll wrestle and I'll pin her. but you're not stronger than me, honey. Like, that's just what it is. Like, you try to do the, uh,

the stranger danger thing. Like, we're getting into that. And I'm like, honey, if someone comes up to you and says, you want candy, what do you say? She's like, yes. Like, no, no, no, no. You don't say yes.

Hell no. You scream as loud as you can't run away. She goes, oh, I'll just fight them. I'm like, honey, you can't, you can't do that. So I grab her arm and she, like, can't get away. And she's like, just let go a little bit. I was like, they're not going to do that.

No, yeah, you're, but she's, She's super athletic. And I don't know if she came out the womb like this or if your son's like that. But when she wins, she always presents a trophy to herself. Correct. And then she goes, but you can have it, daddy. And I'm really strong on like, hey, I didn't win it. I don't want your trophy.

Like, you don't get a trophy if you don't win. And when I beat her, because I'll go half and half with her. Sometimes I'll let her win. It's tough for me to do. Yeah. But when I win, she like gets all upset. It's like, this is just the way it is. Yeah.

My kid has the, like, that Kobe mentality. Like he was playing some game with his grandma. I wasn't there. And my girl, it was so upset at him. She's like, I grounded Tiger. We took his iPad. He stayed in his room today. I'm like, why?

And he just hates to lose. And he's playing some game with his grandma. And she's like, oh, but you lost. And he's like, you're a loser. All right, dude, you can't talk to your grandma. Yeah, I can't do that. But also, respect it. Yeah, I respect that.

But you want your kid to look at you like Superman. You know, like what I took him into this jihitsu gym by our house. You know, there's guys. they're with black belts and he's you know he's like dad they have black belts i'm like yeah they're black belts and he's like man you think you could uh beat them i was like excuse me me he's like yeah he's like you have and my thing is never to lie to him and he's like you have your black belt technically no no one's ever fits could give me my black belt right but i was a black belt i compete at the highest level tap guys out in the ufc i'm black belt that were black but i don't yes yeah i mean

i've been a black belt for eight years i just never officially had the belt So he's like, oh, you have your black belt? And I was like, well, no, no, no, but I mean. Yeah. And so I called in the car. I was like, he was at practice. He was all I could think. I'm like, what am I going to do?

So I called my coach. I haven't talked to like four years of Mall Easton in Denver. And he's a black belt under Henzo Gracie. And they've been asked me to come out there and get my blackbell. But I just don't care now. Yeah. I didn't give a fuck to my son got into Jitsu. So we got in the car and I fucking called my coach.

He's like, shop? I'm like, what's up? Hey, you still have that black belt? He's like, yeah, to my desk. flying in Friday, get that fucking belt. I'm bringing my... Dude, we flew out there and the next...

Two days later, we fly out there. And to get it, you gotta go through like the gauntlet roll with all the black belts there. My son's just watching. I got my guy. I'm just fucking doing my thing. It gives me the black belt. I look at my son, like,

there's your fucking black belt. Yeah, I showed him what's what? Yeah, man. You're still the one at school saying, like, my dad could whip your dad's ass. 100%. But you're actually the dad that could whip their ass. I think so.

I think there's some tough dads there, but I think so. The problem is the school he goes to. I won't say where it's at, but he, it's, I worry about his surroundings. Like the school is, you know, one of the top of the nation. Great sports, phenomenal sports. That's why I want him to go there. Great academics.

But it's also like. Yeah, they came last. Yeah, I know. Sports, phenomenal sports, good academics. And then he kind of continued. Yeah. But, yeah, you go school in Compton. But he, uh, he's in South Central, but he's very good at.

Yeah, he's only been stabbed three times. He started. Yeah, we've read or blue, but. Yeah, we got to get some of most. money so he's stealing also. Like he had his little friend had his fifth birthday party and it's like dude for my fifth birthday party

I got a fucking cupcake. My dad let me watch a cartoon. Yeah. This party dude and I'll tell you off air whose party it was it's like it's not real man. They had a fucking chocolate fountain that was made out of the kid. You know what I'm saying? Like David Blaine was doing magic.

David Blaine's doing magic. You're lying. David Blaine's it? But how defeated was David Blaine like making animals, pulling buddies at a hat. Like, what the fuck am I doing? No one's paying attention. I was like, I went up to him. I was like, what's up, dude?

You know, like, because the kids are playing with their fucking Legos, they don't give a fuck about that. I don't know that they're in the presence of greatness. Yeah, well, yeah. It's magic, but yeah. Yeah, but still, it's pretty cool. Yeah, but. Yeah, people who pay. Hey, that was a tough deal. You're right.

Hey, that was on me. That's on me. People who pay a top dollar for birthday parties is pretty, uh. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we're like that. Oh, really? Yeah. You're saying you didn't get no fucking cupcake.

That's for damn sure. I'm not doing a foulon and David Blaine. We're not boys like that. But hey, there's a pony. I guarantee there's a pony in my fucking parties. Else was there. Yeah. We go all out.

Yeah. There's a jumpy castle. Oh, yeah. We do. I basically hired Joe Exotic out on that bitch. There was a wild tiger and shit. Yeah, they were passed around like a live python and shit. It was dope, man.

It's like the new competing of parents or something like that. Like parents come there and take notes. And the next time, next birthday party you go to, they outdo you a little bit. Yeah, yeah. We had a big spike ball tournament. The adults, the boys are in the front yard. Yeah. All the moms are crawling the kids.

We're playing our own games in the morning. He's putting her ass off. Sweating our ass like the middle of July. Next, man, let's go. Like yelling at each other. You always, like, connect with one dad who's like kind of like matches with what your vibes with. Yeah. And the rest of them are just, especially when I'm like,

pussies, dude. I'm just like, oh, get out of here, man. I don't want in my house. There's a, the music scenes can be kind of like that sometimes a little bit. A lot of music scene. Because they don't really, they don't do competitive stuff. They're all very artsy.

You're talking about the artists. Yeah, the artist. We have like a lot of artists at our house doing it. And they're like, it's funny to me because artists want to kind of

be athletes in a way, the same way athletes kind of want to be actors and artists. Yeah. And so there's this weird dynamic going around. But once you sit down and talk to him,

like, oh, we just don't think the same. Like, I'm thinking a way is like, you know when you're like a kid, you're like sizing dudes up. Any person you meet, like you're boys of them. But first you're like, Can I beat this dude's ass?

Yeah. But that's the bad advantage like never leaves. Like, oh, I'm doing this. And my head, I'm like, I did that a while ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you're trying to be humble.

You're really cool, man. You're killing it. You're killing it. Yeah. It's enough to navigate that, man. That's a fucking deal. Like, hey, when's your kids start walking in the back? Oh, 11 months.

I'm thinking in my head. Like, I mean, I was nine. So, okay. Yeah. That's wild. You kind of say that like an hour later. So it doesn't like match up with them. But in your head, you got their ass.

That's crazy, dude. But when you see these parents, like you see you get your black belt, you're doing the guillotine and all that stuff. You still got it? What do you mean? Like, could you still fight like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You really think so? 100%. If you got to... I still roll and train all the time. Like, I don't really in the head, but yeah, like, as far, like, I'd say I'm stronger now than I was in college. Like, I deadlift more.

I bench more. Oh, you're out there deadlift. I have to do meat and potatoes. And then I run because I do those tough mutters. Like, I have to contract you. I have to do like six years. So I stay in shape. for that.

God damn. But like I watched the, because I love the combine shit. Like, I love it. So I'll watch all the combine on NFL network. And then I'll see what like the linebackers and fullbacks and tight ends are doing. I'm like, let's see where I'm at. Your boy did 30, 2.25.30? I mean, it's fucking.

I mean, it's fucking. I mean, I mean a four. I did 30. So, sprinting's different. So now, now daddy can't get out of second gear anymore. Because I tried racing my friend and I blew my. I blew out both hamstrings. No.

How do you blow up? Both. Just life, dude. Gotta be the most painful experience of your life. Oh, dude. Dude, I was so embarrassed and I was so upset. I was so upset, dude. Hey, a little thought for a show that could live on YouTube is having ex-athletes, UFC fighters, artists.

Compete. And do a combine. That'd be dope. But instead of 225, you do 135. That'd be dumb. I was thinking this. I mean, this is so inside baseball here. But for two-jave it.

Hey, write this down so we can take it before he doesn't. But for 225 at the combine, it doesn't make sense anymore. Like to have guys over, I'll say if you're over 250, the 225s just changed to 315 or at least 285. Because for your big ass old lineman, you're at 300-something pounds. That's a lot of weight. What, 285? For repis? Yeah.

I mean, yeah, I probably get like 10 of them things. You'll get more than 10. 285 is a lot of weight. Dude. That's that big jump from 25. What did you get from 225? 30. And you said you got 30 last Tuesday.

Yeah, but look, did he cheating. You know he dabbles Yeah, yeah Don't bring you sod around me Yeah, no I mean 100% I'm my dad Dear Watersworth's worst nightmare

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work checked and then they're like dude like my levels were shot so I was like why not like if you're deficient in vitamin D take more vitamin D if you're low testosterone take more testosterone I'm not fucking the rock over here you know juice to the gills my levels are just operating at a higher level but the scary thing about

that is how do you navigate what's the best doctor to go to because in my head I'm like well the only person to go to is the rocks guy he's got fucking guy looks unbelievable he's got energy at the ass why wouldn't I try to find that doctor instead of finding some like like I don't know who you and Joe and all these guys go There's guys.

There's guys or is there a guy? Well, there's a guy, but there's also a lot of guys. That makes me nervous. It's going to be easy for you. Once you start dabbling that testosterone stuff, it's not like once you start, you're there forever? No. Oh, really? No, are you from the 90s?

No. I don't know. I don't know. 90s baby, those go. Lala, they don't know. There's fucking, it's like the stuff can do so your testes start working naturally. Yeah. It's not like once you start.

You can never, you know. Get off. it off. Yeah. You're not doing like a cycle and then doing like a estrogen blocker or anything like that. I'm not doing like a fucking gold's gym stack here, you know? We're talking like a peptide stack? Like a Bing Greenfield. When I, when I tore my hamstring, I started do the peptides. You like the BPC? Yeah. You do BPC 157? I don't even know what it is. It's called, uh, why not just have cool names for it though? Like that stuff, like it's all this weird shit. Yeah, it's a lot of numbers. It's like, uh, it's like Elon Musk's kids names. Yeah.

Like AX, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what. Can we just call it Todd 7? You know what I'm saying? Cool name. You want to throw a number and go ahead. But that's kind of the deal. 7 or some shit. That is dope.

But BPC 157 is body protection compound. And you just like, it's like a little syringe. You just inject it. Like a lot of the players were doing it. And Wada just put it on the list like in December or January. But it was like the best thing for like recovery. If you had like a hamstring pool, you put it right in there and you feel so much better. Yeah, I don't know why they don't let more guys use that.

You know what I'm crazy. Oh, it is nuts. And I love that they're now banning it in the NFL because it's like we've been on something for years. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, you don't say it like that. Well, I've been,

I've come creeping on my door again. Like, hey, what the fuck's the deal? I've said it on the Mirabd-Abdala podcast. I was taking BPC 157 because of the Ben Greenfield podcast on Joe Rogan. Yes. You started looking into it. And it does, bro. Like last year, I call like a grade one pop my hamstring coming out, accelerating.

And I'm putting BPC in right in the, right in the injury twice a day. And I'm running again hard in like eight days. Yeah. I heard that you, uh, I was talking to, Michael, Chandler and he was telling me that the UFC's thinking about doing something where the first month after your fight, you can kind of take whatever you want to recover from that fight better.

That'd be brilliant, dude. It's a smart idea, right? To give you back up to neutral. And those guys beat each other up so bad, like those training camps. Crazy. Like, the NBA does it right. They test he wants a year. It's basically an intelligence test. And so like how much human growth one, human growth is fucking LeBron on.

To be his age and just to be that big and not injured? Like, dude, like you got to invest in the product. Like, baddie? He just put up, like, what, 50 the other night at 39 years old? Last night. I think Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson says something about, like, taking, like, all these PEDs and testosterone stuff should be legal for every sport but UFC because of how big and strong guys

can get. And then it becomes like you get killed dudes because of how strong you are. And that's Mike Tyson saying that. That's not me. So if you have an issue, that's with you. That's between you two. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

I have to work. That's all you. Go ahead. navigate those waters, homie? Yeah, I see what he's saying because it's like that. But listen, as far as like baseball, they should be juice to the gills. I want to see fucking home runs. I want Mark McGuire semi-soil.

Barry Bonds. Tennis fucking juice to the gills. Football, different animal. Football's tough because athletes are so big and fast. They're the best athletes we have to offer in America. And when you start giving them steroids, your time, a different animal. You know what I'm saying? How crazy would that game be, though?

If it was like a free-for-all. I'm all for it. I think they should make sure. I'd be careful. I'd be terrified out there. I'm an entertainment factor. We're all for it. But football and fighting would be dangerous.

But as far as recovery goes, that's why I like that right after the fight. First month after the season or first two months after the season of football. You can take whatever you want. But then guys can take such advantage of it. Guys can get so juicy, you know, figure shit out. You can do tests in the league. You have like tests three times. And if your testosterone levels are below a certain point, they'll allow you to do it.

Yeah. Got to be buying below $2.50 or something like that. Brockers or Brooks. Some guard, he played for Philadelphia. he, I think, got on that. Someone told me he did. Guy is fucking shredded. He just retired.

No, the U.S. They would call it a TRT exemption. Mm-hmm. And the commission that actually let guys do it. And once it got around, it was on a height of my career. Once he got out, that you were allowed to do it,

we all were like, we all applied for the exemption. Yeah. And they were giving it like fucking skittles to everybody. Love skim. I couldn't afford it. So, like, my team, a lot of the guys were on it and like, yeah, just come meet with this doctor.

I'm like, fuck, yeah, this can be great. I go and tells her how much it is. And now it ain't shit. What was it back then? God, I want to say like it was, you were paying per month because you had to go in, I think twice a month to see this doctor. And it was like two grand a month,

which I did not have the money. And I was like, I can't do it. And I knew other guys were doing it. I'm like, fuck, dude. Yeah, that's a completely a disadvantage for you. If you were able to do it, you think your career would have lasted longer or you would have done better? But yeah, yeah, for sure, would have been better.

Yeah. That's a wild deal. There's a charity exemptions. Guys I know who try and go all out and self-sabitized to try and get that exemption. I'm talking like hurt their sleep, like fucking eat fast food. Yeah. We'll do anything. Really?

Just ways to lower your test. Yeah. Ways to lower your tests to like do anything to try and get those three in a row where you test below 250 so then you can get. I think it's 250. I might be butchering that. Yeah. I know Richie Incognito tried to do that. That makes sense. Thank God. He did not get it.

You need any more testosterone. No. He's a fucking house, dude. He's a monster. He's a monstrous man. Yeah. Nebraska boy. I played against Richie. He was there for a year or two before he got kicked out. So he was only there for two years. I was talking about tail him about that last night. Yeah, because he ended up

beating guys up, right? He beat up a fraternity. He beat up a fraternity. Yeah, exactly, bro. Yeah. The frat. Take out Osama pie or whatever is. Point out the house, him and the teammate because the frats jumped this teammate of his. And he's like, hey, take, he goes up

to the teammate, didn't really know him. Hey, show, you're coming with me, show me where the house is. Oh, fuck. They go and drive and they're on a, you know, Greek row or whatever. And the teammate points at the house. He's like, that's the house. So they get out and he's like, well. Is that just Richie or a couple boys?

And the teammate? Yeah, Richie and the team. And the one who got jumped. And it's just Richie and him, they walk up. Richie bangs on the door, opens it up and starts beating the shit out of everybody. He's literally a juggernaut from Mexico. Oh, yeah. Yes.

They said like, guys are like standing up on the second floor, like looking down, not trying to go down there. Oh, no, no. But he's beating up fucking everybody. he's a problem. God, dude. Problem. Yeah, you think a school like Nebraska would be able to cover something like that up?

Yeah, well, Coach Boe came on and he was part of that staff and he remembers the team meeting where they're like, you know, you don't, we need to, I don't want to butcher what he was saying, but it's like you need to protect, we need to protect ours. Like if shit's going on and you guys happen to be around each other, we don't let that shit happen type of thing. Yeah. But nobody was around this player that got beat up. They were just kind of reiterating, we don't let this shit happen.

Yeah. Next thing they know, they're coming in the next day and all the coaches are like, hey, you hear about Richie. Like, he beat the fuck out of the entire house. He turns out of not hard. What a teammate. Maybe we shouldn't have said that. I want that guy on my team.

He's a little bit of liability. But if you can channel that, dude. Hunter, he's the guy, Antonio Brown. Hell yeah. Like, he's so fucking good. If you can just channel the crazy, kind of corral that.

I mean, Super Bowl contender. He seems a little toxic. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's a little toxic. I've never played with him,

so I have no right to say anything. But it kind of seems that way as well. It would seem that way. Yeah, it's kind of. I don't know talking to a couple of the players on Tampa. It's like, you're being in a team sport, that shit's hard. It's like, yeah, he's a superstar. He's like a celebrity superstar.

I get he's playing, like, a different game now. But if you're wanting to be a football player, like, there are certain sacrifice you've got to make, like, for the team. 100%. But also those receivers are such divas. Oh, yeah. They can be. There's a couple. Like, we got a dude named Nick Westbrook, Indiana Cat, Salt of the Earth dude.

Grines, blocks, does it all. It never says a word. about how many touches he's getting or anything like that. He's like a third, fourth, wide receiver. If he gets to the pro ball, he changes his tune. Maybe. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe there's a lot of dudes like that out there. He fucking blocks. Pays with O'Dell. He plays with O'Dell. Like, and they're like, here, bring O'Dell. He's like, I don't give a shit. And his numbers went bigger. Yeah, you know?

Yeah, Cooper's a side, man. I think O'Dell's been humbled quite a bit. The ACL playing at the Browns. And when he was leaving the Browns, and they were talking about how Baker's the issue. And everyone, I'm, outside looking in. Like, I wasn't the same draft class as Odell,

and I've known him a little bit, but I don't know him like that. It kind of seemed like, you know, is it really Baker? Is it really the Browns? And it gets in the Rams and you're like, damn, I guess it was.

Because he's just, which is a wild thought. Yeah. But he doesn't seem like, he seems like he's been humbled to the point where he's not like a diva. He's such a teaming guy. He's such a fucking talent. He's incredible.

I hate that he tore his ACL on that Super Bowl, man. Dude, God. God. I'm one too. Dude, they would have blown them out.

I think they would have blown him out the water if he didn't get him. They were marching on them boys. It really were. And then for Cooper Cup, it's like, fuck, dude. Now they're just going to double him. Right. Still balled out. Still MVP.

Yeah, it was a great game, though. The way it ended, Aaron Donald at the end, I thought he was going to retire. Oh, oh. Yeah, because we're supposed to watch this. We were supposed to do it together. Yeah. And then Daddy got offered money. I purposely threw that game.

I threw that wild card game or division game just to be with you. We got to go out to a lot of money. Daddy got offered a lot of money. do the pod at the show at Lenny Kravitz this is the most Hollywood thing at Lenny Kravitz House with Mike Tyson Daniel Kormier

Hey I fucking hate you dude yeah I know You're gonna make it big we were ready bro We're fucking ready with you guys We on the phone we were like I was bummed out We lost and then like 72 hours later I'm like Oh fuck We could go to LA Yeah I know I'm sorry man

That's a tough deal That's tough for all of us How did you decide money over friends I apologize and I would do it again Yeah, no question. Right? It's a doggy dog world. Because you were out there like,

Brandon Marshall, Brandon Marshall, DC, and Tyson. It was good. It's just, here's the thing, like, the problem with, like, Hollywood and that shit.

So the fight campaign, which I didn't start, that's Joe Rogan's thing. And then when he moved to Austin and I was still in L.A., that was our favorite show to do. Out of all the shows we ever done, the fight command was our fucking favorite show.

So I call him like, dude, we got to get the boys back together with fucking do fight campaign. He's like, I'm too busy, man. I literally can't do it, man. He's like, you do it. I'm like, really?

He's like, you do it. I'm like, yeah, you do it. It's like, say less, dude, I'll do it. So, but it's like Brian Callan, it's my boys. We're all boys. Yeah. That's why it works.

I know DeLia doesn't watch sports like that. Is Callan? No. Well, Callin likes fighting, but that's why it's funny. Because I'll be the one who knows, you know, the actual X's and O's. And then the three of us were such good friends. There's a fun dynamic there.

Right. That's why that show works because we're three best friends. we all have seen the same fucking tune. Hollywood goes, oh, these things get big numbers. We're going to do that. Let's put four random guys together who don't know each other and do the same thing. It just, it's not going to work. And the Super Bowl is how long, five fucking hours?

Yeah. The hour fucking halftime show, it's a nightmare. And I got to be basically the fucking Joe Buck of the thing. I got an earpiece in. I got a host. I do reads and shit. They just don't, Hollywood doesn't get, like, you just can't do that. Like, it's called companion.

Like, we're friends. We're drinking. We're talking about octopus for a fucking hour. You know what I'm saying? It's like you can't produce that thing. And Hollywood wants to get that and produce it and you can't. They don't understand it. So how did the thing go then?

I had fun. I had more fun with us though. A hundred percent. Knowing football. Oh, 100%. But it's not me about like, yeah, it had been great. You know, Brandon Marshall knows football. But those aren't my friends.

I don't, you know, those aren't my boys. I can't shoot the shit with them. Right. D.C.'s my boy. And we had fun on the side doing our thing. but I started to worry about Rangling Tyson and then Brandon Marshall's drinking tequila, you know, taken over and, you know, shit like that. Did Brandon Marshall talk to you at all about the IAM athlete thing and how they broke up?

No, not at all. He didn't speak about it at all? No. We had the pivot guys on. Because I didn't know, because he was doing an I. I am athlete, right? Which was a big show. Yeah.

Me and Brandon know each other because we were both Showtime guys. So we both launched at the same time. So they would use both of us together for marketing. So we'd like cross-pollinate all the time. That's awesome. So I worked with them a bunch of times. What a genius way to, like, get your podcast or get your shows going as cross-pollinating.

It's only the best thing to do. It's only the way to build podcasts. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah, the I am athlete stuff was interesting because we had the pivot guys on. They had I am athletes, so there's a group of them, right? It was like Brandon Marshall, Channing Crowder,

Fred Taylor, and Ocho Cinco. And they went through like a bit of a breakup because, you know, business gets in the way. Yeah, it definitely seemed like it was a business thing. Brandon and Ocho, I'd assume, two diva receivers. I don't know. But if outside. So, Brandon has all of the, I am athlete, because he has gyms back in Florida,

House of Athlete. Right. He does a lot more, he does a lot more spinoffs more than just kind of. Embrella company, yeah. But also, Brandon, to his credit, like, Brett, you know, podcast, he can do it. That boy can talk. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Those other guys that, you know, I don't know. They're good. Fred Taylor, Channing Crowder, like, they're outstanding. They had a lot of them, and then they decided to go their separate ways. It's just kind of seem like when they, when they start the. whole thing during COVID, the business part of it wasn't buttoned up. And then it blew up in a way that they probably never saw it happening.

Right. And then they were kind of coming like, hey, what's the deal? It makes things weird. Yeah. I think Marshall, he might have probably owned the whole thing or. Yeah, because he owns all the House of Athlete to supplement all the different. Maybe like House of Athlete, they probably wanted something like that. But I am athlete that pod, they were running like a year before they started to blow up around COVID time.

They were going. And then he added Fred and Channing. Yeah. And Ocho, and that's when I started to take off. So the one that came back to the table and sat down, the guys who started the pivot, they felt like it was more of a slap in the face. Like, hey, I thought we were.

The pivot podcast is Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor, and they added Ryan Clark. Oh, Ryan's great. Yeah, he's basically filling the role, the void of like Brandon Marshall. That's a good show. Oh, they've been awesome. They travel around everybody.

Oh, they're blowing up, dude. They're killing it. The producer of that show was also the producer, producer of I am athlete. Again, it was like a bad breakup, like production. They all left. They ended up, they left Marshall. Yeah, they left Marshall.

Right. The stuff seemed a little sketchy. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. I mean, you guys are blown up too, man. Bro, things have been going really well. Yeah, I love it.

It's been a wild, since the season ended, it's really kind of like become a thing. Like, it's just kind of going to the stratosphere right now. It's hard when you guys are in season to do it. Yeah, it really is. It really is. Because Will's got to run pretty much all of that. I'm focused on football.

Yep. Because when you win a game, it's great. But when you lose a game, lose a couple, if I'm over here doing a podcast, it just probably sends a bad message to the team, the players, and to the media. Unless you get on and you use this as your voice,

you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, as long as you're not celebrating getting hammered, you know, with Will after a loss, you know, if you're going to play out, you're like, whoa, you know. Yeah, it's over.

Yeah. Freedom. Yeah. You could always shape it in a way like Rogers does Maccify. Like, because people do know, like, Taylor and I do this thing. 100%. But if you just knew it was like a 20-minute segment with Taylor or something like that to where

because people will come after talk shit. Yeah. If we, if like we lose, the bus gets torched. Like you guys catch stray bullets for like me and stuff like that. You sign up for an offer. No, I love it. I know who gives a fuck. Right.

Yeah. You know, they work for Uber and UPS. And they're, what, making funny because you lost a fucking playoff game? Yeah. What do you want me to do, man? Right. And that playoff game. I agree.

That one hurts so bad. I bet. Yeah. Yeah. We play them again this year, though, on their regular season. Yeah. So whatever. Yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe not.

It's just how the game works. But when you guys are out of season, then you're going, now the plans you're going to, like, spring training camps? We're kind of just figuring stuff out. Like, we sat down and talked about things we wanted to do and get out there and do more. He had brought up a bus in the spring football tour. Now, the good thing with this past season,

not getting to play, like, I was chilling for so long, that we ended up taking the bus on the road, getting it towed. We get sponsors to take care of the tow and staying at a hotel. And we took it to Nebraska. We took it to Tennessee and did these tailgate spree game. I don't know why you guys just don't get. I don't mean to interrupt you, but I don't know why you just don't like get a,

you guys, you guys, you can finance can do it, get like an RV turn it into this. So you can just go there. We've talked about doing that stuff. Every bus I see, every bus I see I'm trying to buy. Yeah, for sure. Just do that. Right. Instead of to tone this fucking thing everywhere.

True. For sure. Yeah, I think you need a class A license to drive a bus, though, I think. Yeah, you need to. Not an RV, though. Yeah, no, not an RV. RV doesn't go as hard as a bus. Yeah, fair.

I'm all about to look. No, I'm with you. And people get to see the bus, like on site. Like, if people will fall in love with a bit of doing. You should get an updated bus. Some should be fun. Right, right. And it's investment, also huge ride off.

Yeah, that's true. To win, do that. We figured out, like, like, damn, we could have something in the future, like, when we're not, like, when I'm not playing. Like, if I don't play again, like, next year, we can set all this stuff up to where we take the bus around. Because that's when a lot of the boys merge, a lot of that stuff was blown up. We were kind of leaning into our college programs a little bit more. So figuring out those strides like this past year during the season was a lot of fun. And then once we got done, unfortunately, McAfee came on the week that he was during the playoff game, their playoff game.

Because McAfee did Smackdown here in Nashville. It was the only time we could swing him. But it was like we had McAfee lined up, the pivot. We had a few guests lined up to where it was like, you know, you just kind of started to kind of take all. Here's what's going to happen with you guys, guarantee it. So with what you're doing with the NCAA, they don't have like a voice like that, like two guys that can pull it off and get that demographic. So what's going to happen is the big boys are going to come along and get invested in it.

It can get weird for you guys. Especially when you're talking about NCAA NFL, because they don't have anything, you know, what you guys are doing. Right. They're going to want to 100% get their hands involved. I think Viancy has got a big bag of issues coming their way anyway with college football. It seems like with all the NIL stuff, like there's really no way to control it right now. it's the Wild West out there.

And the SEC's like slowly snatching up colleges and they might just like say, fuck you guys, we're not working with you anymore. And so if the SEC grabs, you know, grabs the Michigan, gets Texas, grabs Oklahoma. Nebraska, come on. Colorado.

Colorado, because the Buffalo's in there. Yeah. And they say, all right, we're on conference now. No one's going to watch the NCAA. They're going to watch this mega conference. You're going to watch the best.

The best. Yeah, that's what it's going to be. They don't really watches Bellator. Everyone's watching UFC. Correct. Correct. Yeah. He's the best one in UFC.

Yeah. It's the most entertaining. Yeah. But like guys come from Belator and I mean like my our boy is Michael Chandler. That's my boy too. Yeah. And he's had a couple ones that like the one against Olivera. I think he could have, he should have won that one.

He won that one in the first round. And then that second one he just got banks real quick. I think he could have won that fight. And then the second one didn't go the way he wanted. But there's just like a make-er-break fight. Yeah. So I had Chandler come to L.A. And then so we do a food truck, which I've been.

doing so we do a food truck then after a food truck we do a new new show called uh fight night flashbacks flashback fight nights and we watched the fighters three most important fights of his career so for channel we watched his last fight in bellator against benson henderson and then we watched he smoked him he smoked him to get that's when he was a free agent he went to the uc he was he was he was interrupted he was the bachel yeah yeah and then he went to uh the ufc and then they gave him you know uh he got hooker he got dan hooker which isn't easy fight i told you that he was he was he didn't easy fight he told you that hate the matchup for him. Right. Smoked him.

And then he gets Charles O'Levair and Justin Gagey. So we watched, you know, we watch two of his wins and, you know, two of his losses. But that's the UFC, man. That's what's different about the UFC. Right. It's like SEC football or it's like the NFL. It's like AFC West. Dude, everyone's monsters.

Right. In the UFC, like from one to 30, in order to get that title shot, you have to be, you have to walk through fucking hell, dude. Right. These other leagues, Beltor, whoever it is. Sure, the top five guys could probably hang in the UFC. But outside that, man, it's a cakewalk to get there. You're walking through fucking fire, man. Fire.

So with Chandler, his fight on May 7th with Ferguson, is this like a make or break fight for him? For both of them. For both of them. Both of them. Whoever lose that once can get dicey. Really? Yeah, super dicey.

So how do you see that fight going? Um, man. I love Tony Ferguson. I just, he's taking so much damage, you know? And I think Chandler still has a lot left. to prove. So I love the fight. I love the fight.

Tony hasn't looked great, man. It's been tough for him to get a win. You got Chandler? I got Chandler. Yeah. Yeah. I love Michael. Yeah, he's great.

Yeah, really. That fights in Arizona. Is it really? That's what the boys were saying back there. Did they announce it officially? What's the date on the May 7th? Yeah, we got to go to that. You can go to that or he could be on the fight companion with me.

No, hey, listen, empty promises, right? Oh, come on, dude. There's going to be more cash. When Verizon, come on, Daddy. The money. Verizon? Come on, man. We were texting since November, bro.

You know what kind of breakup that was like for me? Tell me about it. Like, I kept my composure in text, but I was hurting, bro. And I felt awful. And then that money wired through, I went, that was the right choice. And I know you felt even worse telling me, like, hey, can we switch around the time for this podcast today? You're like, I got to do a... Dude.

My fucking... This is a special man. This is a full give and you're taking. No, I know. I know. And I feel bad. And I owe you guys. And I owe you guys.

And I'll make it up. You want to do a companion May 7th? Yeah, I'm definitely. All right. Shake on it right now. Shake on it. We won't pay you a dime. Hopefully I'm not on tour, but yeah. No, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Yeah. I told him not on tour, but yeah.

Tell what if you guys want. I got it. I love that. You're talking about how it could get interesting for us. Like, you know, busts with the boys, thick boy media. Dude, I know, but, you know, you guys, you know. We're under contract. With the contract to year, though. Yeah, I know.

You know, there's no rules in talking to other people. Yeah. Yeah, for you guys, though, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know the inner work and the bar show. especially right now with the port and all that happened, them getting bought out. But someone's going to look at you guys. You know what I'm saying?

And, you know, it's the sky's the limit. No one's doing what you guys are doing. It's really, it's only you get bigger. Yeah. We got a lot of training camp shit. And especially that was my first question. I said, are the coaches into it? Because if you get the universities behind it, dude, what are we doing?

Bro, they look at it from a recruiting standpoint. Yeah, it's huge. We were in Nebraska and the D coordinator came up and showed us a postcard. It was from when I brought the bus And I'm like standing in front of the bus And they cropped in the mascot He's like this is a postcard We're like we're sending out to recruits

Oh no and Nebraska's all the help Oh yeah Yes bro I mean greatest three win football team of all time But yeah we need some help Yeah you're living the past year Yeah I mean it's most recent We just did that this past year Yeah that's a big deal

Greatest three win football team of all time They won three lost nine But every game they lost It was less than seven points He said oh You know what fuck You know it's like Lusins lose it man

Yeah the best at losing. It's been a tough road for Will. We're trying to make it feel better. We play like three, four, five, top ten teams. I know, but you won three games. You know what I'm saying? But we're in there.

We can play with anybody. We lost the Michigan by three. They went to the college playoff. Like, we're telling them boys that we can't lose to anybody. We can lose it. I don't want to pop up on. I've been on your side the whole time, but he's right. It's hard for me to fight this battle with you.

It's very black and black. How much fun do you have in Nebraska? It was a blast. Oh, Nebraska is fucking. Nebraska is an all-time college town. I fucking love it there. That's the best. for you to see Michigan the way Michigan really is.

Dude, I'm so high. So who's on the schedule? Nebraska, Michigan. And then we're going to go to Tennessee. Oh, Tennessee's going to be great. Yeah. Because with the baby coming, it's kind of been hard to, it's been hard to figure out all the scheduling. Yeah.

We're going and it'll be like for one night. Yeah, it's going to be like one night at a time. So we're starting with three in the next year. Maybe we'll make it bigger. And then we got this football season that we can do stuff. But then we're also dabbling in live shows. We're doing our first live show at Zanis. Oh, that'll be dope.

Yeah. You guys have a, like, have you done like a run-through for it? Like I can go up and wing it, no, right? Okay. Well, right now. Right now, okay. We're not going to just wing it, but we haven't talked about it. My plan is to wing it.

You can wing it, but you definitely want, like, bullet points. Otherwise, I agree with you. I'm more of a preparation guy. I'm definitely a fly of the cuff guy. Because, obviously, you can, you get the gift of the gab. Both do you do, but you want jumping off points, especially when you do it live. Otherwise, because if it's just you two bullshit in for an hour, people are going to walk away, I'm like, Jesus Christ, dude. You know what I'm saying?

You paid for that? Like the live performance. Well, because sometimes where it goes and you don't get whether it. you don't feel like you're entertaining the right way. You start forcing your own shit. When you get David Blaine? Sit there and look at each other and like you start forcing. Have you ever been to like a live podcast?

Awful. They're fucking off. They're like TED Talks. Not ours. Well, that's where me and Brian changed the game because when Brian were doing live firing the kids, I was like, oh, we're just going to sit down and talk to who fucking pay for that? He's like, no, no, no.

I want to do performances, man. He's like, he's not the podcast. Juggling? Like, oh, you guys are just sets. And then improv and we had some things. We don't do stand-up. We don't do improv. Will's never done an improv class in his life.

You guys don't really need to. You have gifts to the cab. I'm just saying. We know what I'm saying we haven't done this. I've done one improv class. Best advice. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The best advice would have some sort of outline just so you guys know where you're going up there.

Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of nerve-wracking. What do you think about it? April 24th? April 24th. We got some time. Yeah.

We got time. Yeah. We got time. We got time. I'm wanting to help out. You know, Steve? I know Steve. Yeah.

He's a good dude, man. he's going to help out like, hey, you know, I'll shoot you guys some stuff on how you can potentially look at doing it. Your advice right there. Josh Wolf was wanting to be like, hey, do you guys have a plan? Yes. So we got people that, you know, you guys know, we're going to get it done. We'll help you out, yeah.

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Well, bomb forever is interesting. But-bom, sorry, bomb for a little bit and then get better. There you go. Sorry about that. No, it's fine. That's a fly-by-the-cup question, right? That's how we do it. That's what we can't have that when we go.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you suck still. But, like, how do you have, how do you let your ego just let you bomb every day? I'm like Nebraska, man. I lose, but not by much. No, greatest bomber of all time. Yeah, right? No, I always want to do it.

Like my dream was to be on Saturday Night Live as a kid. Same. Yeah, that was my dream. And then Robin Williams, like Adam Sand were my heroes. I was just, where I grew up in Denver, Colorado, Aurora, it was like the way to be cool was sports. And thank God I was athletic, but it was kind of a curse and a blessing. Right.

Because that was like how it was cool. So I just focused on that, even though I wanted to do this other thing. But there's no outlets. And then, you know, fighting the UFC, played football, fun the UFC. And then came to L.A., met Brian Calland. And then he was like, oh, dude, and Brian's a great, you know, a mentor. And Brian was like, oh, we should do a podcast together. I'm like, all right, whatever, dude.

And so we started doing that. And then just all my friends became comedians. And Brian knew the day I met him, I was like, oh, man, comedy, that's my heart. And I'd love to do that. So you should do it. I'm like, don't be an idiot. And then just being around the guys more and more. And then finally started doing live, finding the kids.

And then we did want the comedy store. And then like three weeks later, the booker of the comedy store called me. I don't forget this. And her name's Emily. And she goes, hey, are you interested in doing a five-minute set at the comedy store in the belly room next Wednesday? I go, oh, yeah, let me call Brian and make sure he can do it. And she's like, no, dumb, dumb.

Just you. We saw your set. And she was like, just you. And I'm like, oh, shit. And comedy stores, you know. Big deal. Yeah, it's like playing. Yeah, historic.

Or fucking Notre Dame. I was like, what? It looked right at you. And they went Notre Dame. Well, we'll get into the Notre Dame. You were in Nebraska. You know, we're tough. Yeah.

That's tough deal. Yeah. So I did. And there was off to the races. Yeah. Just nobody knew I wanted to do that. And then there's an episode with Rogan, you know, I've been on there a million times. He's like, you should really do stand-up, man.

Get a set together and hit the fucking road. But how do you get a set together? Because for me, in my mind, I love to do stand-up. I think that'd be a fun thing to do. But if I try to go to go to Zanis and do a five-minute set, people are going to know that Taylor Luan's doing a five-minute set. If you post about it. Oh, so you just go up and do it. Yeah, like I did open mics for a long time, wouldn't post about it.

And some people knew who I was, but a lot of people didn't. So I just go in there and do my thing. Mm-hmm. Whatever. What was that like? It's just in there your first set. Was it good? I loved it.

I loved it. I love bombing. I like the hustle of it. I like the grind. I like how hard it is. I like that they threw me into the fucking deep waters right away. You know, I'm doing shows at the comedy store and the improv with all these savages. And I know, like, I probably shouldn't be there, but it's just like, you know, I love that hustle.

I loved how hard it was. You got to take your ego out of it. 100. Well, yeah, you can't be the ego. Yeah. But I knew I was on to something. I knew I could do it because I would go to dinners with Rogan and Joey Diaz and Callan. And I'd have him crying laughing.

And Rogan was like, I went to the bathroom. Rogan told Brian, he's like, dude, he's fucking funny, dude. Brian's like, I know that's why I hang out with him. He said, he needs to do stand-up. His story's a better than ours, man. And Brian's like, fucking tell him that. And then Rogan was just like, do stand-up, do stand-up. What a fucking swan to tell you to do that.

What a fucking squad. That'll give you some confidence. So what's your process like to write and figure out your routine? Yeah, I usually have, again, I do a little different. A lot of guys just come up with a concept and then go on stage that night, which I'll do that, but I like to write it out. And I'll write it out and write certain like punchlines and then just have the freedom to play within that punchline until I find it. And find it's tough.

If you guys come to Zanis tonight, you'll see I have like, because my special drops end of April. So I have to come up 30 new minutes of material. So I'm trying that now on the road. You'll be able to tell the bits I've been doing that are fucking airtight and the ones where I'm playing around like trying to find it. Yeah. It's weird. It's like the cadence of words.

It depends where you put the word. If it's here, it doesn't hit. It's here it hit. Really? And then just fucking doing that over and over and then finally you find it. It's great. There's nothing better. I got to learn fast, man.

I'm going on for five minutes with Josh Wolf in April. in April. We're at. Zanis? Oh, yeah. That'd be great. It'd be great. A little nervous.

So you're doing, he does five minutes and then they tell you how to redo it. So it's part of Josh's bit, but he goes, hey, do you want to be my comic that goes on for five minutes? And basically what they do, a comic goes on for five minutes.

It's like part of his whole set. Then, like, I'll go back him and whatever comic is sitting there with him. They sit down with you. They sit there and re-kind of, yeah, redo stuff. But when I first started, I was talking about,

like, what I know. It's always weird. like if you're going to go out there, don't talk about fucking Ukraine and Russia. You know, that's not what we do. Don't talk about geopolitics. Delete it. You know what I'm saying?

Write the hate. Don't talk about COVID. Yeah. Kim Young Jung and where the fuck it is. No. You talk about the LGBT community? Like, you're talking about trans.

Yeah. Probably not. He gets canceled in the first five minutes. No. No, you talk about like, you know, football, CT. Like, forever I was talking about CT. Like, that was my shtick with CT for a long time. And then eventually you'd grow out.

of that. You start really getting to, you know, what you think's funny. That's fucking all. Yeah, it's the best. Nothing better. I'm excited, but also fucking, like... I'm stoked for you, dude. I'm stoked for you guys. The thing you guys are doing, I'm telling it's, it's going to be game changer. No one's doing it. No one's doing. I appreciate that, bro. I mean, you got some new stuff going on, King Sting in the Wing. And that just came out, so I'm stoked that you're on the bus because you can talk about it. Yeah, man. We went...

You guys come up with, obviously, adding Chris. Yep. So the whole world. The King and the Sting for, what, I don't know, four years was just Theo and I, and then Theo moved to Nashville and you know he was like oh it'd be easy I'll just fly back and Nashville's not fucking close dude yeah just not close like we don't have our flight Vegas right you know chomp over and he's bit you know he's busy like I am but so there was times we'd zoom in and so the show was kind of going through this weird transitional period and then COVID hit we're trying to figure things out so we kept bringing on another guest which is exhausting for me because different guests all the time

and then you know Dalia is one of my closest friends and I was like, hey, come do the pod. And then he came on with Theo. And there's like, him and Theo have known each other forever. But me and Chris are, I'm the guy that gels with three of us. Because I'm friends with really close to both of them. Yeah. So once the three of us, they're just, you know, Chris is so fucking talented.

He's fucking hilarious, dude. Dude, he's so funny. So then he just kept coming on. And because I was like, hey, Theo can't come. I want to come back? He's like, yeah. And I just kept coming. And like, I know eight weeks later, he's like, hey, if I'm going to keep doing this,

I should probably be paid, huh? Because he set a video and goes, your boy provides a bomb. Because he does. Like the view went, so then we just were like, man, we should do something.

And then we decided to go the Patreon route, which just dropped last Thursday. Yeah, last Thursday. We're, you know, we're at 10,000 subscribers in 24 hours. So it's booming,

man. Business is booming. Business is booming. And then we're going to announce a tour with Chris, Theo and I, six city tour, like big boy,

like small. All arenas, giant theaters, minimum 7,000 cedars, you know, with the three of us. That's fucking, that's been sold out. That's been sold out. Yeah, I want to do pre-sales. It's going to be nuts. But that, you know, with the Patreon. Yeah.

Yep. But with the comedy tour and all that stuff. And then Patreon, too, it's like, you know, the way Patreon works is you're asking people, hey, if you want ad free, you want us off the cuff where we can't get canceled, we can't get, you know, docked on advertising. Pay $6. You get every show we do ad free. And you can, two of them can only get there if you pay $6.

Six bucks. As much free shit if we give out, I think the fans vibe with that. So also when you do the ads, you know, for me, because I do so many more shows than Kristen Thiel, I probably do 30 ad reads a week. I'm sick of it, dude. I'm fucking sick of it, dude. Grateful. It's a good thing.

I'm tired, man. I'm fucking tired. You do a lot of fun. So then doing the Patreon, there's no, like, when we get done, I'm like, that's it? Like that sounds like, holy shit, this is great. You're just taking the power into your own hands. Yeah. You know, trying to chill out dick pills or, you know, hymns, hair loss and shit.

Yeah, we're all that grind hard. Yeah. Dick pills is right up our alley. That's exactly what we want. Yeah. If you guys want to, all the dick pills, bring them here. How do you figure out, like with Chris coming on, how does that business side of it work? You come in and he's like, hey, I should probably start getting paid.

Then Patreon, you guys are doing Patreon. You know, he wants to get paid paid. Who's that? Chris. He deserves it, though. He deserves it because, you know, the Patreon, because we, so, you know, King of Sting is a proven commodity. It's a proven show that we've been doing four years, getting big boy money. So he gets a smaller salary from that.

He's paid his employee. But then Patreon, the three of us started together. Right. So that's split three ways across the board. Yeah. When you were, when Chris was dealing with all that stuff, that's the last time you're on this pod. Mm-hmm. And so with that process, he was dealing with all the, everyone trying to cancel him thing for,

all that stuff. When did you guys decide? When did he decide? And did you guys talk about when he can kind of like creep back into this world he used to live? It was up to him. Yeah, good question. It was up to him because

Chris was so hurt by everything that happened. I can't imagine why he went through. As fans, we were sitting there like, damn. Broke and hard. And it's not true. And it's not. You know what I'm saying? Are you?

If you want to argue, I'd love to do it. No, we're on your side. I know. But it's just hard to navigate. I'm saying for the listeners out there, I'm telling you people that, Oh, this, this, prove it. Show me one shred of fucking evidence.

Right. And I'll never work with the guy again. You can't. You can't. Yeah. You know, these certain media outlets, they're not writing that story because they found nothing. They already doubled down. They already doubled down.

This guy's the worst ever. Well, what happened? But we have proof that a lot of that was doctored and fake and he sued them and won. Where's that article? Right. So Chris was so hurt by the business and friends turning his back on him. You know, he was a hermit for, I fucked it, about a year.

And I'd go to his house and talk to him. And every month I'd send him a pair of shoes with a note that says, get back on stage, start doing your podcast. Every month on some of you sneak your head like me, every month on some of a new pair of shoes, you'd open up and have a note, get back on stage, start doing your podcast every fucking month. And he's just like, I'm not ready, not ready.

And then finally after time, you know, I think, you know, he worked on himself a ton. You want to talk about a guy who's the poster boy of cancel culture? This is how it should work. It's fucking Chris Dalia. made some mistakes, no doubt, man. Yeah, but everybody makes mistakes. Correct.

Yeah. Made some mistakes? 100% anything illegal? Absolutely fucking not. Learn from it. Worked on himself. Does fucking three hours of therapy every single day. He's such a better person now.

He should be the poster boy of cancer culture. He's a better person, better human being, better dad. Like he had a kid throughout all this. And, you know. Had to make it so fucking. I knew Chris before all this happened. And, you know, Chris was tough, man. Chris was tough.

He was a dark soul and just, you know, tough, not a real human being. Like, he was a bit of a narcissist. And I love him. And he's so talented. I fucking love him. Now, Chris is a real dude, man. The salt of the earth would do anything for you, man. And he had to go through that experience.

He came out, like, fucking Eddie to frame from Shawshank Redemption and fucking, you know, he crawled through some shit. You know, I'm as Morgan Freeman in Mexico and St. Watanah or whatever fuck it is. Yeah. And Theo's there, too. So it's like. And Theo's there too. They all played this.

Yeah, we're, we're just, me and Theo, we're standing the boat down for me, you know, to get away from. Yeah. So, it's just, that was a tough time, man. Yeah. And I think for me, I struggled it too. Sorry, dude. You're good. Killer boots, man.

I had to. That was Georgia boot. Yeah. I, uh, you know, I was a tough time, man. Because, you know, I come from same kind of, you know, same background as you guys, where football's a team. We rally around each other. 100%.

And, you know, before the pandemic. for all that cancel culture shit. We had a squad, man. We were like the comedy rap pack at the store and the podcast. It's the golden age. Everyone's making money. We're fucking bawling. We all do each other's podcast.

Pandemic hits, cancel culture hits. And to me, having football in the fight background, like, oh, no, this is where we band together, dude, we fight this shit. Yeah. Everyone just went, poof. No shit. Blue my mind. His Callin was dealing with something right around the same time.

Yeah, Callan couldn't come on firing the kid, man, for a year. You're kind of like, you went from having a squad to be in this lawless Avenger rolling around by yourself. You also have to pick up in a lot of different ways. The most stressful time in my life, yeah. Yeah. And you're not even the one like really going through that shit. No, it affected me a different way.

You could two of my closest friends are dealing with that, right? So you get lumped in with that. And then, you know, it was tough, man. It was fucking tough. And the approach with Calhant to get him back on? Was it similar without the shoes? Yeah, he doesn't like shoes. I would send him Rogain every day.

I'd be like, dude, get back on the podcast. Yeah, yeah. come back, have a full set of hair. They're not even going to realize it's you, dude. Yeah, just paint your face black. No, he, um... They're all going to come for us next. They'll never talk about the other stuff.

He'll just paint your face black. Whole new bag of issues, but those are now away. We can handle those. Yeah. We didn't deal with that for years. Yeah. No, yeah, it was tough, man. It was fucking tough.

But, you know, I think everyone's stronger from it, and, you know, it was tough, man. On the outside, looking in, it seems like everything's kind of getting back to normal now. The boys are back. The boys are fucking back. Start with fight companion. God.

The boys are fucking back, dude. The boys are back. I know, Taylor and I would send each other to stuff with, like, Chris and him coming back on the pod. And he's tearing up, like, on the pod. He's like doing therapy on the podcast. Yeah, his first couple back, you kind of go on as a fan, like, oh, we're about

to get, congratulations, Chris. And the first couple, you're watching and you're like, you just feel bad. I know. You're like, damn, this he's really been through it. And it's such a hard thing to navigate. two white, three white dudes with a little bit of spice in there. Like what like saying cancel culture, these women said this and they're lying, it's like kind of a hard road to navigate, but that happens a lot.

Happens a lot. And I think, you know, for me too, even as a businessman, when I was like, I'm going to bring Chris back on the shows, you know, the people that I work with as far as ads, so like, no, you're not. Like, if you do this, you're going to miss out on this much money. I'm like, I don't care. I'm at this point. It's what's right.

this is what I'm going to do. I believe in the end that's going to pay off. I love Chris. I just kept putting them on. You know, lost hundreds of thousands of dollars doing it, but I think it's the right thing to do. Probably why you...

Probably helped a lot, too. You need the money. You needed the money. It's really happening now. That makes a lot more sense. You never know what somebody's going through, but now we just figured that out. But that probably helped Chris out a lot too

because, like, doing couples therapy with my wife, like before we got married and everything else, like when you do therapy, you're going through some muddy shit, dude. Yeah, man. So I can only imagine, like, when he's having a child, his wife's name's Christina. Yes.

Shout out Christina. She's a Missouri gal. Shout out Christina. But like going to all that stuff, like, dude, you know you have to go through some dark shit to come out on the other side. It takes a lot of work to come back. A lot of work. My problem was in the same thing with Brian.

When Brian first came back on fire a kid after that long layoff, and Chris, too, like you're saying you watch the podcast, there was like this darkness. I was like, oh, the light's gone. Like the sauce is gone, dude. And so I was like, oh, this was a mistake. Like these guys aren't going to be able to, you know, have that funny freestyle style anymore. Like, this is gone. What the fucker we're going to do?

But it just took reps. And then once you started getting the swinging thing and then, dude, funny's fucking guys on the fly. Yeah, for sure. Fucking hilarious. That fucking bit you guys did with the grenade, the oops grenade. Oh, dude. That shit was just hilarious, dude.

No one makes you laugh harder than Chris. God damn, he's funny. Right wing Chris. Right wing Chris. Dude, that shit is fucking wild. Don't push me? Yeah. He's like the front hat.

It's fucking hilarious. Dude. Do you guys talk about that bit before you go on? No, I really no idea. Or he just fucking decided to do his thing. He made it up on the spot. No way. But then when you guys do reps at it, like you're sitting over there like, you know,

held the grenade. You guys kind of do the grenade. And then the next time then we're poking him. Like, dude, he's like, don't push me. And then it's on. Yeah, they're fucking on. You guys do a great job of like, and that's probably an improv background, is allowing him to like fully expand on that character.

That's why Hollywood doesn't get it. Like, they don't get that dynamic. Right. Like, we're throwing. alley-oops to each other. Yeah. So for Chris, you know, I know I can say something that's going to trigger him where he goes,

oh, this is where I can do this bit. Right. And then we're not stepping on his bit. We're letting him do his thing. He comes back to us. And all Kellen does the, like, Breezing the Micah, and that shit's fucking funny too.

It's all hilarious. Take it easy. Come on, Chris. Yeah. But the thing about Chris, too, I've been, him and I've been torn a bunch together because whenever he's on tours,

he's been doing like a lot of California. So I'll just drive down, surprise his fan base. But I don't, I don't know if people realize how powerful Krista Lee is, man. And he's also, now he's as far as stand-up goes after going through this.

Because before that, you know, he'd get on stage and don't get him wrong, monster, but now he has, like, substance. He, like, grew the fuck up. Yeah. Killer. And people are like, oh, is Chris back? Bitch, what?

I'm talking every city goes to, they're like, can we add seven more shows? And Chris, like, no, man. I mean, you're talking every venue, at least 5,000 tickets sold. and he'll cap it at that. He can sell more. And then, dude, he's probably top 1% of ticket sales and, you know, comedy.

Christ. And he's just coming back. He's a fucking monster man. Do you think acting, he was doing some acting before all stuff happened, the way Hollywood works? You think he'll be able to get back to that? Hollywood will never come back. Yeah.

Hollywood's out for him. And also, I think if you talk to Chris, he doesn't, he wouldn't want Hollywood. Really? He treated him. He's out. But you got to kind of know that Hollywood's like that. What did you say? Like, I've never been in the Hollywood world, but even just watching, like, you know,

it's like that, you know that they were one little mistake and you're fucking out of there. Yeah, but Hollywood's, you know, they're bitches. You know what I'm saying? They're not going to fight for anybody unless you're, it doesn't matter. They're not going to fight for you. Yeah, for real. It's just, you know, and they're eating their own tail, though. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, they're just filled with soy boys. Like, you don't want to be in Hollywood, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, no one's baking money or controlling their own fucking career in Hollywood, dude. You're working for the man. They tell you, all right, you're Captain America. And then next you're not. Like, they're controlling.

Right. There's a stand-up podcast. We control everything. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hollywood. Yeah. Are you guys coming through Nashville?

Is that one of your trips? I would love that. Dude, I love to get... That's what we're trying to figure out where... Chris on the bus, too. Yeah, I think... Oh, Chris will be out here for sure. But the three of us would be great on here.

Fuck. Yeah. Oh, that would be so much fun. Be the best. And you'll realize, like, how powerful Chris is. Like, dude, nuts. Nuts. Is he like that all the time?

All the time. Funniest person you've ever met all the fucking time. Just fucking walks in and owns the room. like that. So powerful. It just has that hit factor. Yeah. Just, yeah.

Undeniable. It's hilarious. The way he chirps people is fucking top notch, dude. It really fucking is. It's unreal. But the way you guys are together is. It's the best, man. It's the best.

It's gold. The boys are coming back together. Yeah. He's a funny, he's a funny cat. Yeah. All right, we have another interruption.

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What else we got? Can you bring up the thing? I do want to get back to that Notre Dame bullshit that we were starting to get into a little bit. We were talking about recruiting and how... Austin and my Nebraska phone. off. Right. Nebraska fell off, but I'm saying if they, if they're going to be in it, they got to own it with this $200 million facility. They're building facilities in NIL. Because you were talking about it's not that much different with Michigan or Notre Dame. But it's way different with Michigan. It's not though. Your weather sucks. Don't even right. It's not like, I grew up in Arizona. I agree. It's not like Miami. Like you're not like SC or UCLA or Cal where it's like they're coming there for the environment. How come Arizona State isn't the number one school in college football? It's too hot. Bro, they have the most beautiful girls that go there. The school, you need a pulse and a six-pack of beer to get in. Facts.

And their facilities are actually lacking big time. Yeah. But it's beautiful. That's fucking crazy. Oh, Jack. That's fucking wild, bud. But if you want to say something, just grab the mic. You don't need to play trap music.

Which is alarming. What's wrong with that? Jack's got some fucking demons, buddy. Apparently with that mustache and trap music is, you know, he's a fucking straight. He's a weird bird. It's been a long week. He said a weekend.

It's Friday. Saturday, right? What song was that? What was Roscoe Dash? Yeah, whatever. You just got a lot cooler in my book, man. But, yeah, ASU should be the fucking school, without a doubt. They've never been the school, though.

You don't know what I'm saying? If we're just talking about environment, landscape, people, like that's in the spot. There's a little more to it than that. I'm with you, and that's your argument for mission. Well, Rott is another one. Boulder should be an epic place to go. It's beautiful. Too white.

Too white. It's too granola. Like, it's like, they don't really give a fuck about sports up there. That's what I'm saying. Arizona's kind of the same way. That's a good point. But I'm saying you could make it that.

You could, so you can turn anything to anything you want if you just try hard enough. Yeah, but the point is with Nebraska, you're talking about powerhouse history there. You know, especially when we're growing up like Nebraska, see you, there's such a big rival. And it's like now you guys are, like, used to be like the, like,

And they're like fucking Alabama status. It was just like, you guys were always good. We've got the top recruits. And they're like, oh, because we're not on, what do you say, TV anymore? No, no, no. I was saying Nebraska was so powerful back then because they were one of the few teams that played on TV. Yeah, Nebraska, Notre Dame, the internet,

all these facilities, money getting divvied around. You can go to a smaller school and start and play versus like, oh, I'm going to go ride the bench in Nebraska for a few years and I'll still go to the league. Yeah. You can play anywhere now. And I'm with you on Michigan, but the difference with Michigan and Nebraska. as we joined the Big Ten, we are the furthest school west in Big Ten country.

It makes no sense. Right? So, like, if you're in the Midwest or up around there, you're going to go to an Ohio state, you're going to go to a Michigan, you're going to go to a Penn State. Why would you not go to one of them big schools and take? Like, I'm going to fly a couple states over and go to Nebraska where my family can watch me if I stay in state at Michigan, Michigan State, one of those. So that's why I feel like they still have a hard time recruiting because when they're in the

Big 12, they could go down to Texas and tell kids in Texas their families. You'll be able to watch them a few times here because we've played Texas Tech. We play Texas. We play Oklahoma, all these A&M. Now you can't the melting pot of recruiting out in Cali, Texas, because that's what Nebraska is. Now you've got to recruit more against those juggernauts like Ohio State, Michigan. You're just, it's going to be tough to win those battles.

That's a money play for Nebraska. Clearly a huge mistake, but I'm sure the Big Ten offered some serious cash. Oh, no question. And that's why they did it. But God, has it? Fuck you guys. Yeah, no doubt. If my son was a baller football player, Nebraska's not in top.

30? Maybe then when he grows up, though, because the NIL market, it's going to be free agency out there. Yeah, their quarterback's being six figures. Why not? Figures in college. Because you guys aren't winning. But we might be by the time little man grows up. What's his name, Tiger?

Tiger, yeah. It might be by the time Tiger grows up. Yeah, but his dad played a CU. He goes to Nebraska. It's a conflict. You know what I'm saying? I think it might be just a conflict because Nebraska is better than C. So you might not want him to go to Nebraska.

He's never really been like that. Well, I mean, more relevant than Nebraska. Whoa, no. No, no. Oh, come on. We ranked three years ago, we're in top ten. That's three years ago. You guys have never been good since.

We're just, what do you talk since when? Name, what year were you guys good? You're in the Bay 12 championship? Probably says in what? Big World Championship. One of Bo's one of Bo's last years. They started off eight, no, they were ranked top ten of the country. How long ago was that?

2015-16? Yeah. I mean, Michigan hasn't been good until this year. The whole time Bo was there, the whole time Bo was at Nebraska. It was him, Saban, and Chip Kelly had over 60 wins in all of college football. So in... You know in the PAC 12. That's garbage.

Six years ago, we were 10 and 4. We were in the top 10 for a long time. Yeah. In the PAC 12, though, that's not like a real football conference. It's more of like 7-on-7. Yeah, exactly. Bombs over Baghdad. We just fucking throw the ball.

And we, again, see you fucked up because we don't have the athletes to play that game. Like you need a baller quarterback, you need speed. We were big, strong, and, like, tough. In Pack 10, that's not what you get things alive. You got to get into Oregon. Yeah, that's kind of what happened to Michigan in the playoff game. It's we were big and bigger and stronger than everybody. And then we went and played Georgia and they ran all over us.

Yeah. We got to go steal the Massey C kids, them down South boys. Right. That's what you had a good. If anybody wants to be good. You guys got a good spot around like Pennsylvania, Ohio. Yeah. Oh, fucking kids, man.

I love Jim Harbaugh. I love Jim. Yeah, he's a stud. Hopefully we can sit down with them next week. We better. If they want to, if they want to level up to Nebraska. Nebraska was all fucking time, dude. They better sit down with you.

I really hope so. They really don't need us like Nebraska needs us. They do, though. You know what I'm saying? That's what's so dope about this. They kind of do. To be like cool and relevant. What are you going to do?

Go on ESPN, Jim. Yeah. Like, what are you going do? Right. All that stuff's kind of falling off. That mainstream media is kind of like going down the drain. Way down. Pat Maccphy is a big reason for that.

Pat McAfee is a legend. A legend. He really, he does it all. Yeah, he's crushing it, man. It's not like Michigan's not cool by not doing it. But I do think there's benefit. Yeah, I do think there's benefit of, you know, busting with the boys is coming through.

Like when we took it to Tennessee and Nebraska, these schools are like, hey, we want to take the recruits by and see the bus and everything else. I'm not trying to one up you guys. I'm saying it's my idea. It's your guys' business model. But eight years ago, I did fly to Ohio State during their spring training camp

and have Urban Meyer on. I was really close with Irvin Meyer. Yeah. That's a tough play, though. Looking back now. It didn't go well. Yeah, Urban Meyer's kind of, I mean, look what's happened to him. That's a tough look.

I don't realize I was with cancel culture today. Oh, that's cool. The guy can't have a few drinks and grab an ass. You're going to fucking say, you guys are running with you. That's ours. We're taking that. He's going to bring up Irvin Meyer. We got to pull you back down.

Now, it didn't go great because I was making fun of him for being a white cornerback in the 60s. And he was not taking the jokes. Well, in the 60s. Very raw. In the 60s, it was kind of like a only white guy party, right? I told him, I was like, you know he wouldn't play if it was today. No question. He wasn't like laughing with you or nothing?

No, no, no. He didn't, he was like, sure. And then we'll just get past him. God, it's got to be a tough interview. He's got me what it seems like monster ego. You know what I mean? Yeah, he does seem like that. And it's tough for me to navigate these ones,

his biggest. He's boys. No, is he? No, they're boys. Oh, Urban Myers fucking great, dude. The best. I don't know. Boys.

I'm telling you. Dude, dude, dude, ego? . I'm just talking about if he's, I bet Jim will hang. I bet he'll take a joke. I bet if we say a dick joke, he'll go, and that's enough for me. You know what it is?

I think Urban because it was like, it was like so official, I think. Maybe he thought it was like that because he's never done anything like that before. So he's like used to like button up interviews. And I'm bust his balls about being a white cornerback and how it's would never happen to the world. Yeah. He's just like, what the fuck am I doing on it?

Right. Where he gets a white corner? I forget. I forget. Hold that up. Because if he didn't make the leg It's like Jim would take the jokes Yeah I made a bad first impression with Tim Tebow

Because I kind of bashed Irbymer Because in front of Tim In front of Tim First impression I ever had Worst mistake in my life Why would you do that? Because I'm an idiot And I was coming out of college

And for some reason I thought that'd be a good icebreaker And it was terrible. Young. Young, dumb, really just trying to impress Tebow And I say like hey I heard Urban's kind of that guy And he was sleeping with a secretary

And stuff like that And he like sat me down for 45 minutes Tell me how great if a guy Urban Meyer is Yeah, that's like You know, it's like a father figure to him. Yeah, no, I fucked up bad. Listen, I, I, I fucked up. They're like, those Florida teams, bro.

Oh, what? Hernandez. What you just say? What you just say? Yeah. There needs to be a document. Oh, 100%. Newton was on that team.

God. Stole a laptop. He's out of there. Yes, bro. That's fucking wild. That would be a hell of a document. Those Pouncy brothers, dude, those Pouncy brothers roll fucking hard, too. He's hiding murders and also doing Bible study with Tim Tebow on Wednesday.

Dude, he was Tim's roommate when they first started. God. What? Yeah, they were roommates. Aaron Hernandez and Tim were roommates for a little. No way. What if that would be a talk? He wanted him to like rub off on him because, you know, Tim was so strict and disciplined.

And obviously Aaron's wild child. So they're trying to hopefully Tim could, you know, harness him in. God damn. Watching that documentary on Aaron Hernandez, he kind of didn't seem like he was that like, like, hood like that. Like that. Like he didn't seem like he was a gangster and then he got into, like, to college. He went to Florida and came back and was kind of like that after that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he grew up rough and he had like the dad issues. then apparently struggled the sexuality too. Allegedly. Yeah.

You know. I don't know. Allegedly. You can't really ask him. No. Yeah. But his man came out and was like, no,

that was my man. He came out after the fact. Yeah. Why would you do that? Why would you say that? Yeah. That guy's just trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. He was like,

that was my man. Oh, my God, dude. That's a tough look, dude. Plus, his girlfriend, who was his girlfriend, whoa. Yeah. I know, you could have picked somebody better, right? If you're a five-star athlete,

in Florida and you're gay, you're going to get the hottest dude. Get the hottest guy out there. You got to be careful, though. What do you mean? Like, you know, you just can't just, you know, walk in a gay bar, man. You got to take what you can get. That's true. And they didn't have the grinder out.

The grinder wasn't back then. Yeah, no. So you didn't have the grinder out. A little twink who's up for the cause, you know. This little twink. He's going to keep his mouth shut. Yeah, you know, it's a tough gig. That's a rough deal.

And you know, he's just tearing that kid apart going, man, there's better ones out here. Oh, I already had a python on them too, man. Oh, there's no question. I heard crazy stories like he would jerk off in the meeting rooms. You too. Hernandez? Yeah.

He like, he like, I said Charles Haley did the same thing. I was the same one in the back. He's just wild birds. Isn't that just wild? You're breaking that first and taking that run game and you're just yanking it. Football you have to be to be able to jack off during the meetings and not kicking out the team.

So fucking good. Like the coach just walks in Aaron, put your dick away. All right, boys. Come on, Aaron. We're playing so and so. Like, that's normal. What the fuck. You see that going on like when it gets that hang on.

He finishes? He's just real quiet after. You sure. You're fucking relaxed. Yeah. You know how good at football you have to be to get away with that man? Insane. Not insane at football.

We'll never play now. There's a meeting room and it'll go do it in the bathroom. I mean, those are sex addicts, yeah? Yeah. You never did in the bathroom one time? No. Not me either, dude. That's crazy.

I've never done that. Yeah, I heard Charles did it like in the shower, like around guys. there's got to be a level of like homosexuality with that then. Yeah, everybody's on the spectrum, right? Just got to figure out where you're at. Yeah, I would agree with that statement. Everyone's got a little bit in them. For sure.

Yeah, like, Jay gets super uncomfortable, but I think that's telling. I think it's telling. I'm talking about it. That's true? No, yeah, well, no, I'm saying like, like, if I put my hand on the Will's leg, that's cool. Sometimes I'll give a little tap. That's nothing. That's nothing.

If we put our hand on your leg, hey, man, what's you doing? That's not true. you all just trying to play a bit now. That's crazy because I saw it in Nebraska, bro. I got more on the spectrum than any of y'all. Whoa. Hey, I was my favorite part of the conversation. I'll suck your dick right now.

Dude, I assumed he sucked dick because the nose piercing. Damn, this guy dressed just like me. But my nose isn't pierced, you know? But so the thing is, yeah, that's a red flag. But then also. Hey, Jack, stand up for yourself, bro. No, you can. But the thing is, is everyone's on the spectrum.

spectrum. So for you, it might be 10 vodka shots, might be 10 for you, might be 15 for me. Might be one for him, you know? Yeah, that's true. But there's nothing wrong with that. Right, there's nothing wrong. Like, hey, if you're, if you're more Metro, then it's all good. It's okay to be Metro. I have no issue with it. My favorite part about those conversations when somebody gets to that point, like, no, I'm more, I'm gayer than you, dude. Yeah, it's fucking wild. Like, I suck your dick right now. Hey, Jack, that's wild. I saw, I saw JP touch your leg at dinner and you gave him the, what are you doing, man. Got uncomfortable?

Got uncomfortable. Yeah, but you missed a lot of bits prior to that because it's more like playing off of it now. What bits did we miss? We drove 12 hours in a car, actually 24. You guys flew, so we had a lot of time to spend, you know? Those first class people were a little uncomfortable.

I don't know. I don't know about. We dress similar. That's not a dig. That means we have style, my man. Come on. You guys are the most style. Metro. So we're saying these days. Yeah. You do not dress the same, just because you're wearing a hoodie also with a Jack's a Beanie guy.

Beanie got the stash. You were in the same shit you wore all weekend still, I think. I know. I'm over here. It don't matter to me. Jordan Fours is a five. There's a time and a place for me to dress, ball. Hey, let us ask you know, Jack.

Let me know, Jack. Don't. You're not fashion. You wear some wild shit. I wear wild shit when it's the time, but like a regular day-to-day shit. I don't know. I got nothing to prove. You have a pretty pack.

I don't wear the fuck. No, hey, you're all style. You get, you get going at times. I mean, you like, but I pick my times. Like right now, I got it today and I was like, I'm not putting clothes on. A little sweatpants, this little hoodie. Yeah. We're solid.

Just remind me, you guys dealt with cancel culture a little bit too with porn noise shit. Yeah, we didn't really catch straight bullets from that. Like, some people would tweet at us and be like, you're going to really work with this guy. He was stuff like that. He came out with receipts right away. And for me. I love what he did, defend himself. Yeah.

That's how it should be handled. It really is how. I had a thing in college with a buddy who got accused of something. And then she accused me of threatening her. Oh, interesting. And it comes up all the time on Twitter. Interesting. But it's like, didn't happen.

Yeah. And there's no, there's no way to prove it. So it's like, he said, she said things. It's also, you know, guilty by social media. Yeah. You just kind of live your life and move on. Yeah, like the pornoisse of people, you'll just see, yeah, I stopped listening to them a long time ago whenever they joined Barstil. It's just like little dumb shit like that.

Yeah. I fuck with Barstall heavy. That place has been really good to us. Yeah, they've been good to us. They've been good to us. No. Has it changed or did it get better for you guys? With Penn?

Mm-hmm. When they, when we joined Barstool, like a week later, came out that they sold the pen. So we kind of been with him the whole time. Yeah, we don't know any different. They have gotten a lot better. It sounds like because when we first started, we didn't have anybody like overseeing our brand as an individual.

It's kind of like a hodgepodge, like they had all their team there. Now they're up over 300 employees. Yeah. Like growing up real business. Yeah, over 70 this last year. So they're getting a little more, for a lack of a better term, like corporate as far as like, establishing culture. Hey, you're going to oversee bust with the boys.

Will, your sales guy is going to be this guy. It's cool. So they've gotten like, like, they've buttoned up a lot more. Like they've gotten a more professional about it. really have. Yeah, money came behind it. I mean, they made 200 more million dollars this year, this past year

than they did the year before. Like, they're growing like crazy. They just can't be stopped. Yeah. It's wild. Yeah, they do. They run all their own shit. You run all your own shit.

Like, there's no one to like stop backing you. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. What are plans with you in Think Boy Media? Because you waited, right? You waited until you left Showtime, which congratulations is fucking awesome. You get to go on your own.

Let's give a round of applause for fucking Thickpoint Media. Standing work. But you waited, but like, what's it? looking like for you? Like what are your kind of aspirations and goals with fake boy media? Yeah, I think when you, like when I left Showtime, um, you know, there, there is a benefit to being with like a big company like that. Like, you know, they would book the guests and they would pay to fly them out and they, you know, they pay for the hotel and all that stuff. And I, I would just I was just a talent. I'm like, right, who's it this week? Cool, man. And then show up. Now, you know,

be careful what you ask for. Now I have to reach out to guys. I have my personal connections, fly them out, book the hotel, flight. I have someone do that, but I have to oversee everything. That's also, you know, coming out of my pocket now, so I have to front everything. But the benefit is, instead of splitting all my advertising dollars and everything half with

showtime, it just all goes to daddy. So that's the benefit. But, you know, care what you ask, run a network is fucking tough. It's a, it's a beast, man. It's a beast. Bro, you've been like, how many shows are you involved with? So we have, since them, you know, we drop

what fucking six shows. You re-brained. You renamed Below the Belt to Shob Show, right? Shop show, yeah, which, and honestly, because, and I told you this, when you signed with Barstool, when we were talking, you want to own your IP, you want to own your shit. So with Showtime, I owned Below the Belt,

I owned the IP, I owned everything, the naming, I created Food Truck Diaries. I owned all that. So six months before, it's not like December 31st of last year, Showtime's like, what? Shob's leaving? I gave him so much. time.

Yeah. Eight months before that, they were trying to renegotiate. And I was like, I just, I want to see if I can do it on my own, man. I just want to do it on my own. They, like, cool. And then I owned all of it. And my guy there, Brian Daley, who's like the genius behind everything out there. He was like, yeah, you own below the belt and food truck must, you can do with what

you want with that. He goes, but below the belt is so associated with Showtime, I would just rebrand if I were you, man. I was like, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. So then I just, you know, we started the Thick Boy YouTube page in January. I think we're up to 130, 140,000 subs now. And that's awesome. And I was just busting content out left and right.

I have my, I have my own staff. I have like eight guys work full time, creative team, everything. It's great. That's awesome. It's just a lot more work. Long term, what's your plan?

Like what, you have an exit plan like 10, 15 years? Because you can do this for so long, but it's making so much money. Eventually you're like, I don't want to just enjoy it, right? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man.

I love it. I, you know, I don't know. Like, one of the guys on the board of, for sick boys is Rob Derdick. He asks all the time what's the plan. He's the best.

He's a legend. He's a legend. He loves MTV. All they play is ridiculousness. Do you have no idea? All they fucking play now. His like savvy because I'll listen to his show

but even his clips and stuff on social media like love listening to the way he's structured. I don't like obviously people know him from ridiculousness but the way he like hustled that situation where his team produced that show it's all him and then he gives it to MTV and then his deal was up.

And then MTV was doing budget cuts. And they're like, Hey, man, you know, we want to continue to do the show. But, you know, we're trying to save money. He's like, cool, I can do it for this much. But you have to buy 500 episodes. Like, right, cool. And he's like, right, cool. Then his production company, which he owns and started, got bought out too.

So he sold his production company, sold the thing to MTV. So he gets all of it. Yeah. It's just the talent now. That's brilliant. Then he also, I think he's, he's 10 startup companies. companies where he invest in. It's him in this group invest in.

And eight out of the 10 sold for over $45 million. And he has his hand in all that. He's brilliant. Damn. So a fake boy came in and he knows the business. He's going looking at everything because he's on fight campaign. He's looking at all the sets and everything. And he goes, so what's the plan?

I was like, literally just, it was February. I'm like, you, I've been open a fucking month. Let think boy get off the ground. And once I get to Wi-Fi, let me look down and figure out a fucking plan, dude. And but he kept saying, what's the plan? It started piss me off. I was like, dude, I don't have a plan. dude, keep asking that.

And then we did the show, went all good. And then three days later, I get a text from, he goes, hey, I want to talk. I'm like, that's weird. And he goes, dude, it drives me nuts that you don't have a plan. And I was like, I'm just trying to get things together, man. You know, I get where you come from. And he was like, I see you're exactly where I was at at 38.

He's like, I just started Fantasy Factory. He's like, you're probably making, and he knew exactly how much I was making. He's like, you're probably making this much money. You have cars, the house. And he's like, and you think you're bawling. He's like, you're not, dude. He's like, you have to have a plan. So he told me what the steps he went through to sell his company and exactly what it took.

It's a lot of work and I can get there. But then also be careful what you ask for because if you do sell the company, then you're working for the man. Like you might have all this money. Like you know, you have fuck you money, but you're working for a boss then, you know? And that's the whole goal of this whole thing, right? I know. I don't know.

I think about all the time. I don't know. So how long ago was that conversation? A month ago. And it's a new upside right now? Uh, no, because I'm so busy because my special dropped, uh, end of April. So even that was different. So, you know, I had offers from, you know, you name a big company that does specials.

Like they all made offers. My first specials on showtime. And so with Sickboy, I hired my, you know, my team shot it. I heard everybody to shoot it in Dallas. So my team shot it, edited it. I put a commercial together. I did everything myself. And then we put it on market.

We got all these offers from these big networks. And then at night, I was sleeping. And this is real. It's like, I saw the way the mainstream media treated Joe Rogan. To me, you know, I know a lot of people. There's not a better person on earth than Joe Rogan. He's the best guy you've ever fucking met. Really?

I saw the way they treated him and like spun everything on him. And just the way Hollywood was and going, my friends going through cancel culture. And I was like, dude, I talk all this shit about not being Hollywood and banking on myself. And then I'm waiting for this. offer from these big Hollywood companies for my special. I have my own network. So I literally woke up that morning. This is, I don't know, two weeks ago.

And dude, we've been hustling trying to sell this special. Hustlin, we have all these offers. It seems all excited. Like my agency and my manager at Three Arts. I called them and was like, I'm not doing it, man. Like, what? I'm not doing it. I'm going to put out myself.

No shit. You're out of your fucking mind. Like, maybe I think this is the move. I'll take to see what happens. Yeah, good for you, dude. I'm going to double down because if you think about it, let's say it's on, name of a big network. I put my special on there. And then I do Rogan and Schultz show and Segueras and all my shows.

I push all these fans towards them, all these fans. And not my own shit, man, which is going to equal subscribers and views. And I own that. That's my shit, man. But instead I'm doing it to this major, you know, Hollywood network. It doesn't make sense. It's not what I stand for. So we'll see how it goes.

I'm dropping on. Oh, yeah. Oh, damn. You pay, do you like, what you were talking, you mentioned earlier about like Rob being on the board or whatever, do you like pay him to be on the board? No, not at all. You just put like a board of like mentors, I guess together. Yep.

Yep. Yeah, guys who have done it before, like my buddy Lewis, who's on the board, he sold his company recently, his media company. So they know exactly what you got to do. Mm-hmm. What does a board like do? Like, how does that even work? And also like, hey, man, be careful here.

Like, you know, you spend too much money here. We should be invested in this. you know, put more time in this or you need this, you know what I'm saying? I got you. They've been there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Is that like I said, like you guys all meet once a month or something like that? Yeah, once a month.

I'm just trying to figure out this game that you're giving everybody. Hey, we're trying to figure out the game for sure. Yeah. That's our whole thing too is we're kind of like you. We don't really have like a long-term plan. We're just trying to figure out how the fuck do we make this thing a monster. And I don't know. And listen, I love Rob and he's different than much.

So Rob plans out his day from down to a minute. Yeah. You said he like has like, what? whether good day and bad day, like how he does a good day. He has a calendar. He has a calendar. He only had like 11 bad days. Yeah, he's 11 bad days all year. Wow. And that's the joke where Chris goes, well, I've had 365 bad.

Yeah. But Rob has it, you know, I'm just not this, you know, type of personality. But he has, from me, when he wakes up at 5 a.m. to when he goes to bed at whatever, 9 p.m., literally the entire day is mapped out. Yeah, I don't know if I could do that. He'll go, hey, man, I have 30 minutes to Zoom, whatever. March 19th. I'm like, can you do it?

I'm like, I don't fucking know. I don't even know what I'm doing the next hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but he just maps out everything, dude. Yeah. He says he only puts in 30% of his 30% of time into work, right? And then the rest is fucking. 30% is so efficient.

I think that's all he needs. Right. He's just that personality. He's brilliant, man. Brilliant. But if you don't, if you're not wired like that, it'd be a difficult way to live. I can, I don't think I can ever live like that.

No, and also I think everyone that goes, I'm going to start, you know, thick boy network so I can get bought out for whatever $100 million dollars like I don't know that's not that's I don't think that's the way to do it right never done anything based off money ever besides it's you guys for the yeah I was hoping you bring that one time that one time ever regret it I learned my lesson yeah but also it was cool yeah um yeah yeah I've never yeah I've never started anything we're like oh I'm gonna make so much money to us I just do it because I love doing it you know yeah yeah so that same thing with think boy that's where me and

rub are different, but also you want someone like that to kind of ring you back in. Is it tough to balance because you have like, Theo has his own stuff going on. Chris has their own stuff going on. You kind of have these guys as talent with your umbrella. And so like it is it hard to like have certain conversations with guys where it centers around like Thickboy Media?

It's like when you guys made it, I think a piece of merch for Chris and you made a commercial by Thick Boy Media. He does it as well, but he's also got his own site. Is it weird? Not really because the collapse. Those fans dig the collabs and most of them can see like we're supporting each other. So like the oops grenade. I love merch and fashion like this guy.

And so because weird how you guys are just becoming friends now. We're best friends now. Yeah. But, uh, wild. You know, Chris likes it too. So when he was doing that oops thing, I'm like, dude, I have an idea for merch. So it was the grenade thing with like that dope symbol.

He's like, oh, let's do that. And he's like, but let's drop it for the first companion merch. I'm like, all right, my team's going to run with it. And you'll take half. Like, cool. So Chris got half of that check. You know, he's doing his own thing with it, but it's not that difficult. Like none of those guys are like money driven.

I think if it's money driven, we'd split up by now. Yeah. Because fight companion is my thing. That's under thick boy, but they're all, you know, so fight companion, firing the kid, food truck, shop show, all the fight stuff. And then the other talent we have are all under thick boy. But then Chris has his own thing. He's not under thick boy.

Theo has his own thing this past weekend. That's not an thick boy. So the only thing under thick boy with them was, you know, fight companion. So it's easy to have a thing, right? Sting in the wing. King Sting in the wing, yeah. Got you. That's fucking awesome.

Yeah, I'm just like, because you got, you named them, like, Shab Show, Fight on the Kid, food truck. Food Truck Diaries, King Sting in the Wing. Flashback Fight Night. Fight Companion. You have all these shows that you do that you got to put time into, like, you also want five kids. Like, how do you balance? Because the way is, because, so I'll wake up at 6 a.m., usually 5.36 a.m.

With the kiddos. So I'm all morning with the kiddos. drop them off at school, go to the gym, and then I have it set up. So when my kids are at school or whatever they're doing, they're busy, I'm working. And then it's very rare I'm not done by three to pick my kid up, pick him up every day. I'll just smash everything in, you know, from I drop off at eight to three. And then I'm, then I'm home. But those eight to three, it's a fucking beast.

And then I'll have stand up at night, but that's when they go to bed. So I put them to bed and they don't even know pops gone. Yeah. That's fucking all time. sure I'm there all the time. They have no idea. You're just efficient in those morning yards. I gotta get more efficient like that. That's a fucking, that's a way to do it. I make sure it's in the window. So, you know,

my team go, hey, we have, you know, Michael Chandler flying in. I'm like, cool, 11 a.m. Like, well, he can only do four. I'm like, I can't do four. Has to be 11 a.m. or has to be in this window. They've got to pick up my kid. Most people can, they vibe with it. We figure it out. Yeah. Awesome, man. That's all time. When you talk about like cross-pollinate and stuff like that,

was there an issue with like when Joe Rogan moved to Austin? Did that become a problem? Meaning you guys would always work together, do stuff, fight companion stuff. When he left to go to Texas, he hasn't really come back to Callie very much, does he? No, he hates Kelly. Yes and no.

Obviously, he's such a good friend. I miss him and I miss, you know, being at the comedy store, he was the comedy store, and the comedy store is definitely changed since he's left. Change in what way? You can be careful with this. He just, you know, it's just not the,

it's just not normal anymore. Like, Joe Rogan was the story. you know, and it was like our guys there and, you know, he leaves and the pandemic hit. So it's not a knock on the time store. They're trying to figure out, but a bunch of guys move. Seguro move, you know, it's always on the road, you know, so it's just a different dynamic. But also, you know, for when Joe left, you know, Joe was such a powerful dude. It's like he was like the comedy scene.

So he would take over it. He'd do Rogan and Friends Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday at the improv in the comedy store. And it's like, unless you're one of his friends, you ain't getting on, dude. I think I was one of his friends, but still, you'd booked me maybe on one of the shows, but he literally just, like, took over, man. Rightfully so. He sold out every fucking show for years, man, years. So by him leaving, there's a, there's a void.

Now, no one needs to do it. So I was like, I'm going to do shopping friends. I started doing shopping friends at the improv. And then, you know, it's also nice not to be so attached to him. Yeah, he's done more than anyone in my life from my career, but also, you know, I have to do my own thing. Right. But we still talk every day, like when my special drops, I'll go out there, do the show. So we still talk all the time.

But he's not in L.A. man. So it's tough. Are you going to be in L.A. forever, you think? I think, I don't know about forever. I love it. Especially when I'm at, you know, it's like when Rogan goes bad on L.A. on a show. He lived a mile from it. He acts like we live on Sunset Boulevard.

Yeah. We're in the riots. I don't even seen a homeless guy where we live. I don't know what he's talking about. You know what I'm saying? We live in a gated community. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like, it's getting bad out here, man. I'm sick of this. I'm like, sick of what? The sunshine? What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? But he acts like we're living on fucking Skid Row, you know,

and we're like, have our guns out and it's fucking the purge. Just get to your car. Yeah, I'm like, dude, we're 45 minutes outside of all that bullshit. What are you talking about? Yeah. That's fucking wild. All his stuff coming out, too. That YouTube video, that 12 minutes, him just saying the N-word was tough.

But the way he did it was unreal. Like, the way he handled it, no lawyers just made a video and apologized for the whole thing. was another great way to go through cancel culture. Yeah, but I also think, you know, that stuff, there's an agenda there, right? Because he's the, literally the biggest show in the world. Like, one of his episodes destroys CNN an entire, it takes CNN in two weeks to get to. How many, like, eyes and ears is he usually getting, like, one show you think?

Depend on the guess, but you're averaging probably around 13 million. Fuck, dude. Yeah. Is that good? I don't know. Yeah, it's pretty decent, yeah. And CNN's like, you know, maybe if 600,000, 700,000, Fox maybe a million if it's Tucker Carlson, so they can't touch him. So you have this wild child who's just spewing where the fuck he wants out.

And they want to, you know, frame him as this far right guy in anti-vax can be further from the fucking truth. And but he's just so undeniable. And then when you start talking about vaccines, you have those people on with voices. And Joe's thing is he's not anti-vax. He's just given this guy platform who maybe doesn't go. along with the narrative that this mainstream media is putting out. He's going to give him a voice and hear him out. Doesn't mean he agrees with him.

But he wants to give this guy a voice because everyone else is YouTube shut him down, Twitter shut him down. So Joe's like, you're off a conversation with him. It's not anti-backed. Right. He just wants this guy's opinion. He has some good opinions. And then, you know, it's such a big show.

The mainstream media feels some type of way. So then Joe becomes public enemy number one. And they don't have Trump to shit on anymore. So now it's Joe Rogan. Yeah. But they don't realize you're dealing with the wrong fucking time. you're not going to beat them. But then you're dealing with a bigger conglomerate

with, you know, big pharma, fucking these big boy networks coming after you. Different type of cancel code. But the crazy part is he has somebody on that's the opposite end of that spectrum of the agenda that was trying to get him like canceled, right? Like if he has a far right person on, everybody, like everybody on social media

and CNN and all these networks try to grab their little bits and pieces of his show and be like, see, look what he's doing, not knowing that three days later that there was somebody on that was from the opposite side the spectrum, but nobody's talking about because they want to bring it down. That doesn't get clicks. Like that negative kind of angle gets click, you know, but this is what they don't realize

is by doing that, most people aren't sheep and aren't dumbasses. And maybe they didn't know Joe Rooker at the time. And he puts out a really good product. So what happens is, is, yeah, maybe in California and New York, you know, these woke left areas, they're like, yeah, he's the worst. But that's not America, man. The rest of America who aren't sheep are like, who's it. this guy who didn't know him before.

Yeah. He downloads a podcast like, oh, fuck, really good. Yeah. That's pretty open mind. Wow. So his numbers, after all this went, bo-hm. That's fucking wild.

It's making him stronger. They're doing it for them. The media, they don't, again, they don't get the machine. I'm telling you're fucking with the wrong guy. Now you're making them bigger, more powerful, more famous, which he doesn't want,

but what you were trying to silence him actually made him bigger. Yeah, he really have even a bigger problem on you. He really doesn't care about being famous at all, huh? hates it. Really? Yeah. Because when he signed that big contract with Spotify, one of the first podcasts he had, whoever he was with was like, hey, he did an amazing job. Like he made $100 million or whatever it was and he like shut it down right away.

Mix it right away. Well, good. He was winning around the avenues. But why not? He was sucking him off. You know, he's just not what he. He doesn't like the tension. He didn't like him and I are different where like I'll post my cars, right?

Like I got a Ferrari, I finally got in the Ferrari club, which to me is like bucket list, big deal. My family huge car guys couldn't afford his kids. In my living room, we'd have pictures of cars. My dad was like, this is the goal. your boy got the goals I flew my dad out drove to San Diego Ferrari Surprised my dad they pulled the Ferrari back My dad's crying it's a big deal dude

Oh shit post that shit And Joe's on the Joe in calendar They come from a different kind of frame of mind We're like you don't post that stuff You don't boast about it's different dude My fan base grew up seeing me fucking Fight in my underwear dude I couldn't afford food till this

Like they've rode with me this far Like this is stuff that they want to see Like they're proud of me But they're different. They don't want to boast about numbers, money. Not that I'm bragging, but it's more like, oh, we did this. Yeah, it's just a different way you grew up. Yeah.

Yeah. And so much way younger than it, you know. Right. And you probably don't think about what people would, you know, I guess, I'm not saying that they think about like the hating aspect of it, but you just think about some unwanted attention that you probably get from like posting that because, oh, of course, you're posting all this shit. Like it's easy to blah, blah, blah.

They think your life's easy now, right? Yeah. They have no idea. But I don't subscribe to any of that. Like, I have, you know, I, when people say, oh, I post and ghost, I haven't seen a comment in two years. I don't see anything. I don't have social media on my phone. You probably dabbled a comment on mine or two, right?

Never. Maybe. Never. Maybe. You follow Will? I'm sure I do. I don't see anything. I don't see social media.

Come on, dude. Don't do that. Sorry, man. You literally sent me a photo of my peekie blinders haircut when I got it. That was on the show, though. Someone brought it up. And then I have them send it to me. Or if there's something popping, I'll have the guy,

like, oh, check this out. So I'm in the loop. But someone's tough, like, news breaks on social media. So it's like in the fight world, like, I find out, like, Chandler Furston's fighting from my fucking guy at Starbucks. Yeah. Like, how about that fight? Man, like, what fight?

He follows you, Will. Yeah. It's crazy. You're missing some hitters out there right now. I'll tell you that much. I know. Especially if you follow the boys, you're missing out, man. Yeah.

I know. I know. I know. But that's the price you pay. Yeah. You know. It's much happier life to live, I bet. Yeah, man.

Because it's just, you realize it's not real. shit. Online's not real. It's not, you know. And the algorithm is towards negativity. That's how people get attention. Being positive and doing cool shit isn't the algorithm. That's not the way it works. I don't know why people fuck with it. You have to do it.

Because, you know, you're basically your own marketing like PR team. You have to do it. But you got to be smart about it. I was pulling up your Instagram. You said you have somebody run all your shit? Yeah. I have someone to tell them what to post, what to say. Really? Damn, that's pretty impressive. I see anything in two years.

I enjoy it. I'm more of a social media guy. Yes. Again, dude, do you? If that works for you, I just, wait until you have kids. Wait, you have kids. Oh, I'm sure it'll definitely change the dynamic. It's like, Dad, get off the phone.

And you're like, oh, fuck, I'm looking at chicks on Instagram. I'm probably dragging her ass because it's going to be a baby girl. I'll probably be dragging her ass on my social media. Like, you need to get on your phone because you're going to have to defend yourself after what I'm posting. Yeah, it's tough, man. You'll see once you have a kid, though. It's a lot harder. You realize you can't waste.

time, man. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. It is. It doesn't need a phone time for sure. Yeah, especially what you guys are doing, what you're trying to build? You're wasting six hours on fucking social media. You have too much shit to do. No, you're very much. Yeah, you're right. It's easy to talk like that because when I hear you talk about,

that's exactly what I want to do. I really want to, like, get off my phone. Do it. Fucking hard. Because you got to stay up to date. You're disciplined dude, though. Yeah, but it's also like I'm trying to grow this. So I got to get out there and tweet and use my, my voice out there because I can't just tell somebody to post it.

for me, but not me. Well, you can. You can post, you tell them what exactly to say. Like, I don't have a guy who's like, hey, I post this and said this. I'm like, fuck you did. Yeah. It's my voice. I'm still running all of it.

Right. I think you can do that more with Instagram versus Twitter because his Twitter isn't even really active like that. No, I just post like Twitter. I'm in there. I'm on Twitter like it's a group chat. Yeah. Yeah.

That's funny as hell to me, though. Yeah. It's so funny to me. What do you think about all the stuff with Milk Boys had, on it immediately YouTube tour it down. Now Trump's going on Rogan and YouTube can't take that down. He's going on Rogan though? Spotify.

Oh. Going on Rogan. It's going to be... That is so interesting because Alex, you said you listened to it all right? Like we were listening to some of it before we got to the beginning as hilarious. We're like, what the fuck? Nope. You got a mic?

He's shit on what? Uh-oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but is it like if he was giving COVID misinformation, maybe or if he was like rallying around not. What is COVID misinformation because we're still learning? What blots?

Would you say he was shitting on? I wouldn't even say shitting. He was just talking about the way this administration's handled, you know, the exit from Afghanistan and the Putin situation right now. And as far as like the relationships that he's built with like foreign policy and stuff like that, like this administration is like mishandled that

and has essentially took steps back instead of like taking. Yeah. first five minutes we listened to, it was essentially that. Yeah, but how, why should that be flat? But if I go on Twitter and I say, hey, Biden's handle this like shit, I'm not getting canceled for it. Not at all. So why is it any different for this man just because he was president?

Because you got to realize who runs YouTube and those conglomerates and what agendas they have. You know, that's the problem, too. That's the problem. They're getting so many clicks. Like YouTube is making a profit off that, right? If there's five million views and two hours. YouTube's all set on profit.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they're ball and. Probably getting money from. that party. So whatever they would make in clicks and stuff like that, it's probably being funded by that party. There you go. Damn, son. Damn. It's a game going on. It's just dropped a fucking bomb

on us in the back, dude. You're like, you're silencing, like, you're silencing in the former president of United States, dude. Twitter kicked them off fucking Twitter. Kind of that freedom of speech thing, right? North Korea? What are we doing? Yeah. It's not, it's like, dude. Dude, ISIS is on fucking Twitter. It's nuts, dude.

That's fucking wild. It's on Twitter and, like, yeah, they're good. How about this anonymous group? Right. Like what? Dude, I don't know the fucking first part about him, but that's just unbelievable. They're just like, hey, Putin, you keep doing this shit. We're going to hack your ass. Fighting the good fight, yeah. They really are. They're cyber battling his ass.

Shout to anonymous, dude. Yeah, I love him. So Trump's going on, Rogan. Do we know when? I don't know. Well, no. The whole world will tell us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just curious because obviously that stuff just happened in like the last 48 hours. Because the note boys, I forget which one. He was talking about how YouTube was taking it down and this, that, and the other. which sucks, by the way. It's like, it's supposed to be a platform to where, you know,

Think Boy Media you're growing and doing and doing all your own shit. Yeah, if I'm the Nelke boys, I'm pissed. Then you get controlled essentially like a network style. Like it gets, it gets docked and taken down. Ain't right. Not good. Not good, man. Him going on Rogan.

I mean, that's going to be. It's going to be a monster. That really is. I don't know. The way Trump talks, that was fucking hilarious. Rogan is also the perfect guy for the job. He's a lot of good people. There's a lot of good people out there and friends with all of them.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Roe is a perfect guy for the job because he's not like, he's not going to be intimidated by Trump. He's fucking smart. And he'll be able to like fire back. Like, I guarantee you it's like it's not going to be a Trump party. Like Rosen's going to get into it. Yeah, he's a, I mean, fuck.

He can't handle himself with anybody. Anybody in the world. He has an unbelievable gift. He should have done the debates when they had the whole thing about him to get him to be the mediator. I don't know why he didn't. That would have been unbelievable. Yeah, he just doesn't want to. He doesn't want to. I mean, I can understand.

You're crazy when there's a talent like that. You kind of just like as a fan. want him to do everything. He would make it all better. Right. Like, hey, throw Rogan in there. Yeah. We felt like those dudes. I was going to say, at the same time, there's going to be people right now being like, oh, look at these bro Jogan's on there right now. Yeah.

These bro Jogan's win, man. You really can't wait. Hey, Kate, your hat, can't please them all, dude. No question. No fucking question. Trump is funny. What were we listening to? He's like, I called, I was talking to Putin or he was talking to somebody. He's like, I told him, I say, hey, don't do that. Don't do that. But it wouldn't have happened if I was president.

Yeah. It might be right. He might have. I'd be right. I don't like Putin and him were boys. It seemed like they were kind of boys in a way. The way the media was making it.

They'd at least be like them. You know what I'm saying? If you have a powerhouse in Russia, instead of being like, you know, fuck this guy, if you like kind of friends, close,

enemies closer type deal. Well, things that Trump's close to Putin and fucking Homeboy North Korea. Yeah. They had the whole deal. Homeboy North Korea kind of died for a second I heard and they came back.

Talking about that? Yeah. He said he died. Yeah, they thought he died. And then they were saying he was like going down the stairs like weird, but then you look at the stairs, like, oh, and anybody's going to go down those fucking steep-ass stairs weird.

It's not sick. It's just being careful. What a weird deal, man. This is a crazy world we're living in. The craziest. I have no idea what's about to happen in the next 10 years. I'm low-key scared for my kids. Me too.

In a weird way. I'm worried about social media with kids, man. Oh, my God. Imagine if we had it when we were 10, 11, 12. We'd be saying the most outlandish shit. And it also just affects your brain in such a way. Like, the way I was about, you know, you want to go to the NFL because you want to be rich and you want to be famous like when you're young and you work hard still right but you're

the whole why thing pretty much changes over time as you grow and develop and get a better brain but when you're younger and trying to post or do this stuff and some people come at you I just feel like it affects your wiring like your brain whether it's confidence your self-esteem like you're trying to impress I just know I would have been a little more is that maybe built insecure you probably are a lot more insecure as a kid these days yeah think about it think if like when you were a kid if you got a new bike right to you that bike was lit as fuck right like or let's say you got a car when you're 16 you just won wheels man give a fuck poor torus whatever it was yeah i had a bullshit you had a for torus too

i thought it was the greatest thing ever i thought it was dope as fuck killing them out and you're in your neighborhood and that's a big deal you get a ford torus but now you get on social media and you see Kylie Jenner got a fucking Lamborghini you feel like shit dude you're comparing yourself to these people that you know it's just not the expectations are so fuck yeah and they said I think in the next three years, iPhone's going to come with a surgeon general's warning for how addictive it is. Same as like cigarettes do.

No shit. So addictive. It really is addictive like that. And the thing about all the shit that came out about that Facebook whistleblower where they have the info on how dangerous this for kids and how kids are committing suicides causing depression, and those sets just gone away. But this lady was like balls deep working for Facebook.

She's like, they know all the information how fuck this is for kids, man. And they know how to play that game. They keep pushing it out. Damn. Even though they know. And even Zuckerberg was like, I'd never let my kid on social media. Never.

Like, what? That's fucking wild. That's dude. Yeah, but how do you keep them off? Because there's so much access to it. By the time our kids are like, you know,

teenagers, we're going to have so much more knowledge on and realize how talks it is. And I think they're already starting to do some things to stop the harassment and bullying, stuff like that. They're taking the certain steps. But then you get into that thing like freedom of speech,

right? Like how do you navigate? if someone's just chirping, if I'm just tripping will, is that hate? Or am I bullying him? You can tell. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're a 14-year-old girl and then the kids from the schooler, because we've all been bullied. But I have to deal with it when I went home.

It was like, all right, at least have a break. Tomorrow it's on. I'm going to fight this kid. These kids, they get bullied at school. They go home. They're getting bullied online. Everybody's seeing it. It's embarrassing.

It's why suicide's through the fucking roof. You're going to bed, not really sleeping, just laying there. Like, fuck. Looking at it. Nightmare, dude. Nightmare. Yeah, I would not have done a little bit. It would change about time our kids are older, I think.

I hope so, dude. All that brain stuff is scary. I get scared about that brain stuff all the time. Yeah, I do get worried about that. I was telling JP, I've said this like four times in this podcast. Like, the first three weeks after the season, I can't put words together. Then when I get tired, like I stutter a little bit more. It's just a wild deal.

Did you ever worry about that when you were fighting? Not really, because it wasn't really a thing when I was fighting, but now with the research is out and stuff like that, I took this test years ago. Who knows? Could have been bullshit. But there's a test where there's a certain. gene that you have where if you don't have this certain marker, you're more prone to suffer from CT and concussions if you've had them. And I have the thing where you're not, I'm not prone to it.

Really? There's a certain blood type. Yeah. I'll take that bullshit test. Yeah. That sounds like a deal. You feel good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. I appreciate you coming on, man. This is yeah. When's this drop? I'm just stupid. I'm really drop. How you guys do it? Are we going this one? This Wednesday? We go on the next week. Okay. The weeks, I'll be, when this comes out, I'll be in Chicago. Sean Berg Improv. Come get some. And then Arizona.

And then we got to figure out May 7th, man. May 7th. Let's do it. Get the boys. Let's see if that actually happens. Let's see what happens. Yeah. Yeah. You had the money off, no, no, no. No, no. Just kidding. You also, you gave the exemption of if you're on tour. Yeah. Whoa, no, no, I said that doesn't count.

I'll have to change the tour date. for you guys. Oh, okay, got you. All right, good. I'm gonna figure it out. We're all buttoned up. Yeah, no, what's happening. May 7th?

In L.A.? Or are we going to go down to Arizona? Oh, L.A. Yeah, we have you at the studio. You don't want to be at the fight, trust me. It's not like that? If you want to go just like spectate and watch it, that's the way to go. But as far as what we do, you want to be in studio.

Yeah. It's funner. Trust me, it's funner. I'd love the bucket list is like being like the front row at like a Vegas fight. Yeah, they're cool. Intense. Yeah. It's fucking intense.

would love for it to be like a McGregor one too. Yeah. Hey, speaking of McGregor, who's buddy who just beat Masvedol? Kobe. He's like the American McGregor. He's mouthing off to everybody, right? A little bit, yeah, but he's not like a, he's more of a grappler. Yeah.

Does he have it? 100%. Yeah, he's the best welterweight on earth not named Kamar Usman. He just can't beat Kamau. They already fought, right? Twice. He lost twice. He lost twice.

He was a dummy dumbed twice. They were good fights. I'm asking. I wasn't telling. I was asking boys. They were close. Close fights. He just can't.

beat him. So they're going to go for the trio? They got a hit again, right? If he keeps beating everybody. Tomorrow's fighting Leon Edwards in the summer. And then Kobe needs to, like, he keeps throwing, like, shit on the wall hoping something sticks. Like, he went after, I think, uh, fucking Connor,

Dustin Porre. He's gone after, you know, all these, but it's just, you know. It's money grab. Yeah. And that's what he should be doing because he's in this weird situation. Yeah. He's a baller. He's a beast.

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