Bussin' With The Boys - Brian Baldinger Dishes Legendary NFL Tales + Can the Chiefs Cement a Historic Three-Peat?

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Recorded: January 27, 2024 Brian Baldinger aka Baldy, former NFL player turned analyst, shares incredible stories from his playing days in the 80's and 90's. Will Compton and Taylor Lewan delve into B...aldy's time coaching in Italy, and ask him about some wild tales from his rookie season, and the grueling training camp practices of his era. Baldy tells The Boys about his days of playing on an unsanctioned NFL basketball team that traveled the state of Texas. To then reflecting on the coaching styles he experienced, comparing legends like Jimmie Johnson and Tom Landry, while also delving into how injury rates and player preparation have changed over the years. The Boys touch on Baldy’s “OL Mastermind” expertise and ask why he isn’t coaching today, while he showcases his passion for breaking down film and teaching the game. They wrap up by discussing the best players he’s played with, coaching changes around the league, and Super Bowl predictions, ending with the fan-favorite "Twisted Question of the Week" and "Pet Peeve of the Week." It’s a must-listen for football fans craving a mix of nostalgia, analysis, and fun banter. In the intro Will is given a punishment by the boys un the back of the bus if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Will and Taylor then recap their weekend, and the bus attempts to bully Taylor into having a 3rd kid. To wrap it all up, Taylor and Will answer some fan questions from last week about the move from Barstool Sports and what that means for fans. Big Hugs and Tiny Kisses y'all! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 2:56 Chiefs Are Inevitable 39:03 Titans New Assistant GM Dave Ziegler 43:50 Pete Carroll The Raiders 45:42 Weekend Recap 52:41 Taylor’s Going For 3? 1:03:07 Fan Questions 1:05:04 Risk Stream 1:15:25 BRIAN BALDINGER INTERVIEW STARTS 1:16:56 Baldy Wants To Do A Training Camp Tour 1:18:36 Did He Struggle After Retiring? 1:19:12 Exchanging Battle Wounds 1:28:13 His First Rookie Contract Was Wild 1:32:43 The Different Coaching Styles He Played With 1:40:00 Baldy Could Hoop 1:46:51 Practice During Baldy's Day Was Way Different 1:52:28 Jimmie Johnson vs Tom Landry 1:54:58 Injury Rate Now vs When He Played 1:57:52 OL Mastermind 2:04:56 Why Isn't Baldy Coaching? 2:10:12 Baldy Breakdowns 2:24:05 Competitiveness Against His Brothers 2:25:26 Best Players He Played With 2:27:26 Coaches In New Places In 2025 2:32:41 Super Bowl Pick's 2:35:08 Twisted QOTW 2:45:54 Pet Peeve OTWFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:03 One more game. The chiefs are inevitable, man. The chiefs are fucking inevitable. Yet you still think the Eagles are going to win. I love the Eagles in this game. I love the Eagles. I do. Shout out Drew Tranquil.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I obviously yes we will be talking about the red team the chiefs I think that's what has to happen if the chiefs win I can't say their name or refer to him for an entire year yeah that might have to be it yeah or every week you should have to bet on them whether you want to or not but that's a pretty good that's a good that's a good scenario it's a win and a punishment at the same time spotlight a player for the chiefs just break down drew tranquil every week yeah you've been fighting the Chief's thing for multiple years now. They've won two Super Bowls in a row, possibly three. Is there a punishment possibly for Will Compton if the Chief's three Pete?
Starting point is 00:05:51 No. Is that a conversation worth having right now? I think that's it is I can't say their name. I can't like. I think we leave it to the floor boys. What do we think? Do you think Will should have to shave his head? No, sir.
Starting point is 00:06:03 No, sir. By Jack of Silverado. I think the Chief's, like you're not allowed to say the Chief's name. And if he does, then it should be like a, some sort of like type of slap or the wrist. No warnings One strike rule And it's like kind of like a little slap on the Yeah but how much
Starting point is 00:06:18 But it's got to be a lot Because Will makes a lot of money $100 so all the boys Every time Will says the chiefs He's got to put $100 in there At the end of the year We split it We get to
Starting point is 00:06:28 No nice dinner We do a nice dinner on Will Yeah That might be more than nice dinner Yeah We'll take a plane We'll take a plane somewhere Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:38 Take a plane grab a dinner Playing back I mean, yeah, that's, I mean, we've got to do something, man. He's really, he's been the, the reason the core of the Chiefs having success. Them in the locker room on a day-to-day basis being like, I'm tired, I'm hurt. Think about Compton. Think about that. You think Travis Kelsey's a tone of the boys?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Listen, we lose. He wins. That's essentially their slogan in the Chief's Kingdom right now. So, oh, bro, I feel so bad for Josh Allen and the bill. How do you feel about the How about how do you feel at the curse jar? I'm done to do that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:18 $100. I'm not allowed to say their name. Every time he says the word chiefs. And if I say chiefs, I have to put 100 in the jar. It's just the word chiefs. He can talk about if they win the Super Bowl. If they win the Super Bowl. I don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah. I do love the Eagles. Yeah. Like outside of the Chiefs hate. Because the Chiefs like it is cool to see. what they're doing. I will say that. I mean, you literally tweet. I think it's time to start rooting for the briefings. I was in such a mental blender. I didn't know how. I didn't know what I needed to do anymore because I was I was taken to my knees from the fucking the bill's lack of success in that
Starting point is 00:07:57 game. I know. And you just, oh, we talked about in the locker room. You saw Josh Allen did that first series. The first two series. Those first two series, you're just like, settle down. You're all good. You are the man. You're the fucking man. And then when they had that series in the second half, or they're just running the ball. They only threw it one time on that drive. It's just like, man, I wonder if that, you know, if they come into that game thinking, hey, let's continue to build around the run and Josh Allen will open up for him like they've done all year long.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And Koch really started to find a stride. Like he was getting those gritty three, four yards. And he started popping him off for 10, 12, 15. Like he was doing his thing. And then when Josh was trying the one-on-ones and they always seem to be against McDuffie, like McDuffie just had that shit locked up. It's like when the charges were trying Singleton from the Texans in that first week of the playoffs. He was like, hey, stop throwing at that guy.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He's got these guys strapped into chair. He's got it. It's over. Yeah. Tucking them in, put him in a car seat in for a drive. I wanted to say this during the locker room. I saw this that. I was doing the prep sheets for you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:49 In the first half, the entire half, James Cook only had four rushes. And then that third quarter drive where they just ran down the chief's throat, he had like six for like 40 yards on that drive alone. And didn't look tired. So I'm saying your horse James Cook is only touching the ball four times in the first half. Yeah. The good thing. So, yeah, obviously a heart goes out of the. Josh Allen and the bills, like we all wanted them to win that game.
Starting point is 00:09:13 If the bills do end up pulling that game off, the way their devens is such a liability, you think it's a massive blowout possibly with the Eagles, what they are run game. The way they're able to operate and have explosive plays the way they do. Like, this is a better matchup to decide who's the world champion this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I do think Philadelphia stacks up better in the majority of positions. If you go by position group, you got running back, offensive line, receivers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Quarterbacks to Chiefs. Yep. Tight in as Chiefs, like you go Travis Kelsey, even though Goddard's been playing his ass off. But defensively, both very good defenses,
Starting point is 00:09:50 but I do think the Eagles. I do think the Eagles. I mean, outside of like Chris Jones, but you got Jalen Carter, you got the guys up front. You have Zach Bonn and Oren Berks who's filled in very well for the exciting whites. Yeah, for Dean.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah, the exciting whites on the outside. Cooper DeGine is a baller, bro. Blankinship. Quinion, Mitch. He's a stud Slay They pretty much have them in every single category Except for quarterback and head coach
Starting point is 00:10:16 Which is Two pretty big pieces Two pretty big pieces I mean you see like The first drive by the Chiefs Like their top 15 plays Were the perfect top 15 plays Their third and shorts
Starting point is 00:10:31 Were the perfect calls for third and shorts Their four minute was done perfectly Yeah They just understand And they know that like Eagles are not going to give you those little tiny chunk plays or those little five-yard throws every once in a while. And I bet you there's going to be a whole new game plan,
Starting point is 00:10:46 a whole new idea of how to expose this elite Eagles defense. Yeah, yeah. And I know we covered it on the locker room, but that was a first down. That was that fourth and one was a first down. Absolutely, but there were so many other variables in that game that the last... The way the rest were running out there, it should have been spotted a first down.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And then the review, it could have been up in there, but it wouldn't want the bills way. Like they were running out there I know one guy on one side of the yard line The other guy, the other Heads up played by Drew Tranquil too right there Because he got in the way of that one side Ruff to where he kind of had to go backwards
Starting point is 00:11:19 Or go around him Yeah Yeah What do you guys think? You guys didn't get to give your opinions On the locker room My main thing Aside from the actual play of it
Starting point is 00:11:30 As fans and Americans Even though the two better teams won We were robbed To have the two greatest football fan bases be together in New Orleans. And the content that could have come from Bill's Mafia versus the Philadelphia Eagles fan base, it would have been historic. And that makes me sad.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But I do think the two better teams won and it'll be fun. Perfect. Sorry, diabetic blood sugar crashing out. But yeah, that's my thing. I do think that there's obviously plays that went both ways for, I think, the fan bases. But that first down, I agree with you, Will. That was a first down to me. I hate it for
Starting point is 00:12:09 Kincaid That was a brutal drop Yeah he's got to catch that ball I mean it's a diving catch but God man he's got to catch it's a hard catch it's a hard catch but that's when you have to He had to come back to it Dude Mac Hollins made five catches harder than that one
Starting point is 00:12:27 Like that is It's not ideal but that is like very catchable Yeah yeah Right like you You got drafted This conversation to do this But he's not, he's not wrong. Like, that's what we get paid to do.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You get paid to make plays. Yeah, I get it. It's a hard catch. I do. I understand. I think there's like a triggering thing for me sitting in living rooms with people that are like overweight being like, you got to catch that. It's like, look at you.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You don't fup catch that? Yeah, well, I'm coming down with that rock. Right. I've come down with that past 10 times in my front yard. Yeah. I'm with you. Like, he should have caught the ball. He should have caught the ball.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And how is that? not more technology for angles and figuring out. Where's the sky cam at? Apparently they had the sky cam but they cut it out when they go into commercial like they cut it quick and nobody's showing that angle because he's over that line. He's over that line. He's in the
Starting point is 00:13:21 Super Bowl. All these sports got all this technology for views of everything in football. Like we're just sitting here looking at Chris Jones' head and then he takes helmet off. He's crying for the fifth time. He does always get water. He's always crying. He's got tears frozen like on his face. Which during the National Anthem, every time they go to him and he's got some tears streaming, he's a good cryer. I think it's a badass look.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah. But they get a stop and he goes off and he's crying. It's like, Chris. I know. It's also like this is not like if Chris is on the bills and they get that stop and they're going to the Super Bowl, all the tears in the world. Like, brother, this is your third time. They don't know. They know nothing except championships and seven goals.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Right. Like this is seven times in a row. been doing an AFC championship. You got tears over that. Yeah. And just to play on the other side of it, the whole tush push that the Buffalo Bills try is just so brutal to watch. They don't do it right.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It's not a tush push. It's a quarterback sneak. Yeah, they're running a true quarterback sneak. Yes. They're trying to take advantage of a gap in a quarterback sneak. A tush push is someone pushing your tush. But I think everybody calls a tush push because James Cook is lined up back there like he's ready to push him, but he never really pushes him too much.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's a lateral step and then forward. It's like you watch the Eagles do it. They have the blueprint. All them hogs are down in four points sprinter stance is ready to come off the ball. And they got like eight guys back there trying to push Jalen Hertz forward. And also Josh Allen, bend the knees.
Starting point is 00:14:51 He's going into that, his tush push, like standing straight up and then ducks and goes. Because part of him like he did one time, he jumps over. Yeah, he's a hero. Yeah, yeah. Josh Allen is a true hero. He really is, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 This solves the problem. You put like, it has soccer. VAR. There's like a chip in the ball and they have all these sensors around the stadium. So like you can go tell if like the ball, say, crosses the goal line. If a guy was off sides, like you can easily put a chip in this football. Yeah. How do we not have chips in the football?
Starting point is 00:15:22 How do we not have chips in the football? I don't know, man. What the fuck are we doing with the chips in the football? Even for some of the kicks and field goals where people are like, did that go in? Did that not go in? I feel like it would be so easy to just have like a laser. sensor on the top of the upright.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Am I crazy? Yeah, let's get some laser sensors out there, dude. Let's get James Bond. Let's get 007. Come on. Yes. Going back to the tush push push and kind of changing games, but that tush push stuff with the Eagles and commanders on like the one yard line for five minutes was the most insane thing of all time. So bad as
Starting point is 00:15:52 as we can award a score if you guys keep doing this. Because in Louvre's defense, like, do it. Keep fucking doing it, man. What are you supposed to do? Try to guess exactly. And then finally he goes, we get award a score. They just like, they get like five yards. They just buried them after that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Lubu diving was so funny. It's so awesome. It's insane. And the fact that they're running out of the way. Yeah, Jayla kind of just moves the side. I mean, dude, desperate times call for desperate measures. If I'm Louva, I don't feel bad about that one bit. Like, you're trying to get a chance, man.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. The only chance you have is to get the stop right there. And you what, you get penalized like a quarter of an inch? Well, I don't know if it was after that, but there was a moment in that game where he timed up the snap perfectly and blew up a run. You're trying to make a Troy Paul Malu ass play. He was a madman in that game.
Starting point is 00:16:41 He was making big plays all over the field too. I know the luck just ran out for Washington. I mean, the Eagles just, they couldn't stop them. And you have all those turnover. You just can't give the ball. You can't turn the ball over. The first drive by the commanders were thinking, oh, you're going to have ourselves a fucking game.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Go for it twice and fourth down. I was dumbfounded that they didn't go for it a third time. It's like, you know, you guys have drawn a line in the sand. And leaning on too, like knowing that the Eagles are playing man and just kind of beating him to the outside on those outrots that they kept hitting, like whether they were in fourth and short or third and short. I know they had a good first drive. And then all of a sudden the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I literally I went to the bathroom and came back out. I'm like, what happened? I saw it just Sequin celebrating. I'm like, damn, he just ripped a 60-yarder. And their backup, the dude from Clemson, rookie from Clemson, he brings like a 60-yarder. Great ball control by him, him looking up knowing he's going to get hawked at some point. Yeah, yeah. Shipley, Will Shipley.
Starting point is 00:17:34 knew he just didn't have the steam for that, dude. This is too good to be true. They're all going to hawk me down here. They're going to get my ass, no doubt about it. Protect the ball. Yeah. Austin Ecclure killed my parlay. All I needed was nine more yards receiving.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The hell are we doing, huh? Come on, babe. Help me out. Mine was done pretty quickly. Yeah, can't believe that one. Just heartbroken, man. Heartbroken for the bills. We talked about living the locker room, too.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It's like, yeah, it sucks for the commanders. wish you guys went to the Super Bowl, but like every every commander's fan is like, hey, what a fucking season though, huh? Yeah. Totally different vibes in Buffalo compared to in Washington. But just imagine if they're going to run too and they just become the bills of the NFC. Like you have a quarterback. Bill still have a, they still have Josh Allen. And it's like, what do you even say after those games anymore?
Starting point is 00:18:23 In your mind, you get more callous to think nothing else matters unless we just win an AFC championship game. Yeah. Nothing matters. In his like 10 years as a quarterback. I think they've won, say, like, 78 combined regular season in playoff games, which is the most of any team to, like, win that amount of games and not have a Super Bowl appearance. This is crazy. Imagine one day, bro, and say the Chiefs continue and Josh Allen doesn't win a Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:18:50 Joe Burrow doesn't win a Super Bowl, Lamar doesn't win a Super Bowl. Like one day, all of those quarterbacks will be accepting a gold jacket, and all of their speeches will have to talk about how they could never beat Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, or Patrick Mahomes gets murdered. the top three suspects of those three guys you just said. Could you imagine he just does it, like, the unthinkable and just keeps winning? And anytime you do kind of get past him, like Joe Burrow, did they lose? Like, that would be fucking brutal.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Tell you what, we were talking about it too. He wins this one. I think he's very much in the conversation. Are we witnessing the greatest player of all time? If they, if Josh Allen and Mahomes were reversed teams, if they flipped teams, is Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes? What do you mean? Like is Josh Allen the three-time Super Bowl champion with... Hard to say...
Starting point is 00:19:39 It's hard to say. That's where you're going to get into the argument of what the Patriots got into. What was it, Belichick or Brady? That's essentially what the argument you're getting into. That's why in my head, I would almost lean... Like, Patrick Mahomes is incredible. He's going to be the greatest player of all to play this game, in my opinion, especially if he wins this one.
Starting point is 00:19:56 All he's done is go to AFC... All he's done is going to change the game. That's actually all he's done. It's all he's done in his first seven years. where Brady it took him a little bit. But Eileen saying yes because of Andy Reed and everybody else that they've kind of had.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It is a team game. Patrick Mooms is incredible. But I would just say Josh has a lot of similar abilities. And you have the mind like Andy Reid. Like Andy Reid also went to the Super Bowl with Philadelphia Eagles. Like he's somebody who's an absolute mastermind. The winning is coaching both franchises, right?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. I mean, that's wild. Like Belchick didn't do it without Brady, correct? Yeah, no. And after Brady left. It was bad. Yeah. After Brady left.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It's like if Mahomes, for whatever reason, left after this year and Josh became the chiefs, you know, I don't know. If you flipped it, okay, so Josh Allen, you could probably say, what about Lamar? Same answer? Yeah. Is Lamar? Lamar's on the chief with Andy Reed? Is he, we looking at Lamar's? It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's a good question. Because at the- Joe Burrow, I'd say, you think of all the names, though, Joe Burrow is the one. Yeah. Well, you just- Absolutely. You look at the plays that Mahomes has to make at the end of the game. games like the play call is genius and it's like it's not a crazy difficult throw it's just kind of like there and obviously mahomes can make insane throws yeah but like their their throw to clinch the game but this is also a conversation i i don't like i like it because it is really interesting but i also
Starting point is 00:21:19 don't like it because i feel like in a way we take away from the greatness right yeah right because he's got those throws where he's like laying on the ground or he's sideways making these throws 25 yard dialed even the even the super bowl he lost at Tampa Bay when Tom Brady was a quarterback there, like he was getting, he had no protection the entire time and he was still hitting dudes in the chest off his back foot falling on the ground.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And it's like, yo, he is the fucking man. And I'm sure the same thing happened with Michael Jordan. He'd be nothing without Piping his boys. And I'm sure, I mean, Brady, there was some competition there. It's like, we get used to seeing somebody be so good for so long
Starting point is 00:21:53 that like we all like, you can't justify it in our brains. Like our brains cannot compute how good it is. Because when the bill still had a shot when the bill's defense bowed up sacked him a couple of times they had to settle for a field goal it's like if the bills go down and win if the roles are kind of reversed
Starting point is 00:22:09 you're talking about Mahomes not being able to do it or score a touchdown when his team needed a touchdown yeah you know what I mean yeah yeah and yeah we sit here now being the way that it is being like you Josh Allen's the man like he put his cape on he would still be other than those two series like played an incredible game yeah
Starting point is 00:22:27 and give him an opportunity there at the end four funnels when the spag just dialed up four fumbles and got them all. That is crazy. Yeah. The turnover was bills were plus one, right? Yeah, because they recovered. Yeah, they recovered after.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Oh, that's another one too. Ed Oliver jumping that snap. Yeah. When Patrick Mahomes kind of like, let the ball get behind him. I thought he timed it up. Me too, me too. I sat there and I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:55 that's where I was telling you. Here we go with the reps, man. Because when they showed it, Ed Oliver, getting out of the snap a little bit, And it's like the ball, he's like, he's going before the ball, but the distance. He went up. He didn't go forward. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And he's like in it. I thought, oh my God. Like he timed it up perfectly. And it's funny too when Tom Brady was saying the rest need to let the boys play. Like all the times Brady got protected. I remember thinking about, what was it, Atlanta a couple years ago like Brady's last year. It was just the softest looking tacked. So the 283 game?
Starting point is 00:23:26 No, no, no, no. This was just a regular season game. But when people are up in arms about the roughing the past, because it's always been a gray area or a hot topic of contention. It's like it was like the softest little roll tackle that almost like protected Brady and that he still got called for roughing the passer. Like Brady's had like that's the reason almost, Mahomes too, but Brady was like the reason for like protecting quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Did you guys feel like Patrick Mahomes heard the voices of everyone being like the flopping is too much? Yeah, you can tell when he scores. When he scores, but there's a couple times he got knocked out of balance. he popped up right away and like dapped up the defense like the defensive like the defensive player he definitely knows he knows yeah I think he was like playing into he heard the voices he heard the critics and he like played into the critics hand by not doing that by the way maybe the worst spike attempt of all time of all time he tweeted yeah
Starting point is 00:24:16 he tweeted are we in the are we in the best quarterback era in the NFL like history history I think it's I think it has to be bro I mean man I mean we're obviously Brady, Rothesberger, Breeze, Rivers, Romo. Rogers. Romo was nice, though. Rogers.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Same position. It's the same position, though. Same position, same time. The quarterbacks now are more athletic, I would say. Like more mobile and can run, whereas those quarterbacks that you guys were all just saying, we're all pocket passers here. You're like stereotypical, just standing up there
Starting point is 00:24:57 and just dotting them. But do these guys being able to be mobile, like create a better product? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're taking away from the field general, though. The guy who sits back and just dice his cats up. There's something beautiful about that. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, yeah, but Joe Brough is also mobile. Yeah, I mean, everyone's technically mobile.
Starting point is 00:25:17 You look at Tom Brady. You look at Peyton Manning back in the day, say, all that boy's mobile. He's got some rushing cards? Hell no. He got some rushing on Drew Brees. Dude, there's a play. I don't know, I don't know what game it is. a big game or not where they
Starting point is 00:25:29 ran a fake power or Peyton Manning booted to the left and he still almost got his ass caught but the only reason why that play worked is because everyone's like there's no fucking way Peyton Manning is running this ball we'll get his ass
Starting point is 00:25:45 we're going to get his ass it's different man it's kind of what Baldi was saying in the interview is like everything everyone was just bigger stronger faster yeah the game just evolves so much that these quarterbacks now you almost have to be able to be mobile yeah And that's what's crazy about Brady. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Maining, too. Just because he did it in both eras. Like he beat Patrick Mahomes. He beat Peyton Manning. Like he did everything a quarterback could do where in the Michael Jordan LeBron type stuff, it's like, oh, they never played against each other type deal. And like with Tom Brady, he played long enough to where he did play against all these people. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So even like it's, you know, Mahomes say he wins the Super Bowl, say he wins another one and just has, he's going to. have an incredible career that's going to trump Tom Brady no matter what him and Brady faced off, Buccaneers, Buccaneers chiefs, and Brady got him. Is Brady calling the Super Bowl? But it's to Brady. That's what I'm saying. Like if you're going to lose
Starting point is 00:26:41 to one person. For sure. You're losing to the guy. It was Michael. It's like the year he retired to go play baseball, that same team still went to the championship game. Loss. Yeah, the Bulls still went all the way to the semifinals. Yeah. I mean, Brady's at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:26:57 why don't we get him on the bus, talk to him about if Pat Mahomes wins this one is he unseat you? It would be awesome. It would be so great. I know. It would be so great to have Tom Brady on, man. I think we'll get him at some point.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think we will. I mean, we were kind of close about a year and a half ago. Yeah, a little bit of conversations happening. You did that picture. Yeah, because he followed your boy. I still got him.
Starting point is 00:27:20 He's still a follower of mine. Is he go periodically check on him? Yeah, sometimes he goes. I'll hear him on TV. Let me go see if he still. follow you. He's gotten better too. He's gotten better at announcing.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You can see him getting more comfortable. He's doing what all of us want him to do is talk about his times. Back in my day, this is what I like to see. That's what everybody wants him talking about it. When he's looking at Big Dick Nick in the suite and he's like, I'm jealous because you caught it and I did it.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Right. That's the stuff that I'm like, okay, he's starting to understand the process. Yeah. Yeah. Seven times. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people on Twitter, you'll see disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Like they're like, for some reason people hate hearing Tom Brady talk, like do what he's doing now. Everyone's gonna hate. Yeah, but everyone's hating on something. If you have the greatest quarterback
Starting point is 00:28:09 of all time, arguably the greatest athlete of all time, talking about his time and what he liked to see, why would that not be helpful and bring some sort of entertainment to you sitting in your living room, like listening to that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I think. To understand the game just a little bit more. I think guys just like that traditional, like, you know, a Joe Buck type. guy. Joe looks great. If they had a third
Starting point is 00:28:33 analyst it could be like where people are going to be hey it's not about you talk about the game making about the game right you. I did see someone had a people also hate on Romo too but I thought Romo I thought Romo did you do this. I like Romo I like Romo too people do
Starting point is 00:28:49 people really do hate on Romo a lot and dude he still do like when he first came on the scene the big thing was oh Christobal Romo he's always calling out the next play that's going to happen he did that a couple of times in this game. Had a couple misses too. But he was like, it was like third and one or whatever in the four minutes. He's like, oh, you're going to see Patrick Mahomes fake it and roll out here. Yeah, because you see textbook, fake it roll out, which is you could call that play. You see, uh, he's still doing it. Dave tweeting too. He's like he keeps talking about the unstoppable
Starting point is 00:29:14 push push like the bills are like they never get the push push. And it's also not a fucking push push. They line it up like it's a touch push. I know, but they don't do the touch push. I think they attempt to try. It's not the same thing. the quarterback sneak is what it is. He's sneaking the ball in an area. The tush pushes, three guys line up behind, going straight forward, no fair dodging, and everyone's pushing the tush in the direction.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Bill's have one guy doing. Bill, yeah, yeah. One guy doing it, and he also... One guy doing it, trying, and then Josh goes a different way anyway. Yeah. Maybe I'm looking to throw it, too, in the middle of being held up.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm thinking of myself, dude, if you're going to do this quarterback sneak this many times, Like, why aren't you having some guy just, the Y, just leak out of there real quick. Derek Henry Jump Pass. Yeah, or snap. Like, do some different shit. Like, everyone thinks you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I mean, college ball was doing it. They were doing a lot of creative things off of the tush push kind of lineup. We need to bring back the Tim Tebow pop pass. That's which we need. Josh Allen and the gun, offset gun, run straight four, three, four hard stuff. Boom, tied in. Who is the team that did it to where ultimately they snapped under the quarterback's legs and then the running back takes it to the right?
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's a great play too Texas did it a couple of times this year Yeah Yeah Teams are trying to get creative Out of that formation And that's why the chiefs have been so successful Andy Reid his creativity
Starting point is 00:30:38 His playbook Baldi was talking about it On the walk room There's a playbook But his playbook's like time It's just a never ending Yeah It's always there's always something new
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah Derek Henry It'll be an awesome game We'll see if the Eagles can get it This time around Twice in three years Right It's a great matchup
Starting point is 00:30:57 it's a great matchup it's a great matchup it's it's fun too because i feel like eagles fans are excited chiefs fans are excited and everyone else is just like i'm excited to watch the super ball these are two franchises that like don't have like we're getting behind this team there's not like a nation behind one team like if the bills made it some people hate that both teams are in yeah yeah then you just want chaos i would just love to see some chaos have the lights go out Yeah, I would just love to see chaos But ultimately I want to see the confetti Come down on the Eagles
Starting point is 00:31:29 As everybody knows I might put a big boy bet on the spot And I was telling you You were kind of saying The last drive I got kind of given a scenario The perfect ending would be If it's Mahomes backed up
Starting point is 00:31:43 Two timeouts Two minute drill And it's Mahomes having to win the game For the Chiefs Or the Eagles defense Bowen up and stop in the The game two timeouts You're on the 25 yard line
Starting point is 00:31:53 You're down by four you give it to Patrick Mahomes you think in your mind he's pulling that off no doubt about it same scenario I don't know about no doubt about it but that's ultimately
Starting point is 00:32:03 what I want to see no but no your mind is going to go to he's going to get it done like Patrick this is this is this is this is the aura we've this is what we're kind of giddy to see if he's going to get it done it's like when Tom Brady was back
Starting point is 00:32:15 up against you guys when Logan Ryan picked it off yeah but even though there was still seconds time on the clock you're sitting there like is Tom Brady going to fucking pull this off I do want to see something like that with the Chiefs. So you would lean and you're more confident
Starting point is 00:32:29 and Patrick Mahomes getting that done. Now flip it. Jalen Hertz, he is a great quarterback. He's all the statistics that Balldinger was talking about. But he throws for like between 150 and 200 yards a game. Like he's not like a guy dicing people up. If you're on the 25-yard line, you have a minute 25, two timeouts. Do you think Jalen Hertz is pushing the ball down the field?
Starting point is 00:32:51 He's done it before in some games. In a crunch time, Super Bowl game. Right. This is the Super Bowl, but it's like the Chiefs won. Patrick did it against him a couple years ago. Like Jalen ultimately led that down to take the lead on him. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:03 I don't want to get away because I do have a lot of respect and appreciation for Jalen Hertz. I'm saying if the ball is in the hand of Pat, you lean, I lean towards he's going to get this done. Like that's the kind of the, yeah, you've seen it, you feel it like there's just a, there's an aura about him. With Hertz, it's like
Starting point is 00:33:20 he is such a great quarterback, but people knock him on the the throws sometimes they knock him on his ability to push the ball down field he lets the athletes around him kind of get the yards for him like that's just the narrative around these two quarterbacks to where you know I don't see that getting into that crunch time like just maybe because that's how it's been painted to me we're like to see a situation where there the eagles are around midfield and it's fourth and along two maybe three to where the question is there are they going to tush push this to ice the game are they going to punt the ball
Starting point is 00:33:54 It's too long so they choose to punt the ball. Mahomes is backed up inside the 10 with, you know, a minute and some change on the clock with two timeouts. And it's like, did the Eagles just make the biggest mistake of their life? Or are they going to stop Mahomes? That is what I would love to see in the Super Bowl. I need that clipped for when that happens. I need that right there. It will just said clift.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And then when the game happens and it's the fourth quarter and that needs to go viral. I also have a fun update on the Chiefs Jar. currently in the last 20 minutes, we've already racked up $1,200 if that was live. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If that bet was live. If that bet was live. And we'll do a great job. We'll do a great job the first week and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah, yeah. After the chiefs win, after that, we'll be having $1,200 days. There's no doubt about it. Come on. Who are you talking about? Eagles. Oh, if I'm the Eagles in that fourth and long, too, I think you try to ice them and go for the push push.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I agree. I don't think you push it, though. I think you push push that motherfucker, dude. I think you'd give it to Sequin. Yeah, I mean, that's a good call, too. But to your point, you're like, do we give. And the round is a cream. Do we give Mahomes the ball with this time left?
Starting point is 00:35:07 For me, I'm thinking we've got to figure out a way to convert this fourth down. Forth and long two. Long two. I don't know, man. I don't know. I think you go for it, though. Because if you're sitting there, like, definitely go for it.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Definitely go for it. Yeah. I think to me the tush push is the one in question. On the 50? If it's 2117, maybe you pump because that means your defense has been playing fairly well up to this point. No. If it's 31 27, maybe no. Maybe you fucking.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Okay. It's the same thing. She's on the other foot. It's fourth and two for the chiefs. And they're on the 50. Are you still screaming no to punting the ball away? They're going to have some crazy ass play to get that. Yeah, they're going to get that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 No, but I know. Yeah, but I'm saying like the fear. Of us saying the eagle, like this situation, the Eagles punting is a death sentence. It's basically what we're all feeling. You can't pun it away. I don't think it's it. I would love to see the,
Starting point is 00:36:01 like, you got the number one defense against Patrick Mahomes. Patchman Holmes had the opportunity to win the game. That's terrifying. If you flip the script, are you still thinking it's terrifying for the chiefs to punt the ball away right now? With that exact scenario you just said. And the answer is no. It's not as scary to you.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I think you want the ball in your hand, though. I don't disagree with the kicker thing. I'm just saying. You want the ball in your hand. I'm not giving it up. End the game with the ball in your hand. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:29 You have to go for it. I don't. Because I'll get it. Taylor. There's such an argument about that last year about you should be going. You should be going for it. Now everyone's going for it. They can pass a 50 years.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But here's a thing though, bro. They need a touchdown. Not a field goal. They need a touchdown. We've seen it too many times, bro. Touchback fun. You're like, oh, fuck. They're the two-defense.
Starting point is 00:36:51 This is it. two-time defending champs go on the rate of three-p and you're going to go arguably this kid might be the greatest quarterback of all time let's punt the ball to him that is fucking nuts
Starting point is 00:37:05 you cannot but ultimately that would make bring it in a Super Bowl 2117 you're on the 50 yard line it's like okay our davids has still been playing good it's like I have if this situation happens which it very
Starting point is 00:37:19 very well could you, Sireani, you have to go for it. You have to go for it. Yeah, I think they'll bring another line in. You're pushing everyone. But ultimately you want the situation to where they're opting to punt the ball. Because I, again, Mahomes back up. It's got to be out fourth and five.
Starting point is 00:37:37 To go win the game, they need a touchdown, not a field goal. I would just love to see the best defense versus Patrick Mahomes in this biggest moment to go for the three-peat or they end it on just the last drive of the super. And if he pulls it off, you bend that knee. If he pulls it off You're a witness You're a witness You're a witness
Starting point is 00:37:54 And you're happy that you're We're lucky to be alive To watch this It's one of those All the flashes in the crowd Start going off As soon as they go line up Where were you win conversations
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah But it's not gonna happen though That is fucking juicy That is juicy We think Gilly's gonna run the team Out the tunnel at the Super Bowl Maybe Yeah boy Gilly's been on our generation
Starting point is 00:38:14 He's been crushing it They gotta suit them up Have to I need him in pads helmet, cleats, and on the sideline helmet in hand. With the water bottle and towel just to get the boys right. That's the last, like, Gilly is the ultimate fan. He's achieved it all.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think the only way you can go further is to convince a team to let you suit up with them. At the Super Bowl. And that's it. Nobody else will ever top that. Here's a question. Who do you think Jason Kelsey's pulling for in the Super Bowl? Ooh, Chiefs. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I don't know. bro. His bro's gotten him. You know he's sitting there like, he's pulling for bros three Pete. You think so? I'm sure he'll say that. I'm sure that'll be the public. You know,
Starting point is 00:38:58 his wife's not. Definitely not. His wife is Eagles all the way. She wants Travis to go. Zero reception, zero yards, two fumbles. She's a real one.
Starting point is 00:39:07 She's a real one. You think there's a part of Jason that doesn't want to see the Eagles win since he retired? No, I don't think he has that kind of. Okay. Dude, every player has that piece of them.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's like, But he won. Yeah, whether it's angry or not, it's like, I wish I was a part of it, though. Like, you're like, damn. Oh, yeah. But Jason also got one. Yeah, he got one. But I'm saying, like, this situation, you know, it's kind of like.
Starting point is 00:39:29 That's why I feel like he's poor for the Eagles, because I don't think he has that where he's like, oh, damn, maybe like bummed a little bit. Maybe he's bummed that both of these teams are in the Super Bowl. He doesn't want either of them win. But I would, it's like if you're Jason, you almost want to see the Eagles do it because they're playing the fucking Chiefs again. It's still your, I mean, basically your team without. Yeah, it's your team without you. They're going to have a viral podcast after the Super Bowl regardless, because if they lose, Jason will just probably chirp them a little bit,
Starting point is 00:39:56 it'll be like, damn, Eagles. Yeah. Yeah, they'll be back on top again, man. New Heights. It is like, it's basically another new Heights Super Bowl. They reach a new Heights every year. Another new Heights Super Bowl. Kelsey Bowl.
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Starting point is 00:41:18 Darren Mojee GM for the New York Jets Chaparral High School great Chaparral High School man all accumulated by the man Charlie Regal himself special teams coach for the ASU Sun Devils
Starting point is 00:41:31 Just crazy Dillingham as the head coach Like you guys are a little bit of a football factor I know As Titans fans how do you feel about Ziggie being in I mean I don't think there's like too much to work with everyone talks about Raiders, his, like, biggest mistake was who did he draft over, um, was it over,
Starting point is 00:41:50 not Jalen Carter, but that was last year. Forget who it was. He has like a historically horrible draft stock that he took three years ago, and that's what all the Titans fans were talking about. I don't know if you can find that or not, but so I don't know. I'm indifferent. Love the guy, personal, like at the Super Bowl. If it wasn't for me, JP and Garrett being together, he was going to get two of us into
Starting point is 00:42:11 that Drake party that we didn't get into. Which was, by the way, not worth going to. You know, tomato tomato. But I'm excited, though, just like new people behind the wheel. So hopefully it works out. Chad Brinker's the guy, though. It doesn't matter about Borzinga or Ziegler. I don't know much about this Chad guy.
Starting point is 00:42:35 He's the head of football operations, but he is the top. He's the top. Yeah, he's the head of the totem pole. Right. So he makes the ultimate call on everything. thing, but I think they're going to work to. They said they're all going to work together, obviously, for the best possible product on the field. So it'll be interesting. Love to have a little hopeless optimism. You got to appreciate Jack too, because obviously
Starting point is 00:42:56 Ziggs a friend of the bus, but he's also giving you some like, hey, here's the, here's the, here's the thought. Here's a thought out there. He hasn't had the best history. He took from the Raiders. The thing that he didn't get credit for, though, was he had the trade in place to draft C.J. Stroud. And Josh McDaniel said, no, we don't need him. They take CJ Straub, Dave Ziegler probably still. He's still there. Absolutely. There's a handful of things that come out of the Raiders. He also was the guy who brought Devante Adams over to the Raiders. And once you bring a guy like, what's that? Do you bring Chandler Jones too? I think he brought Chandler Jones as well. But bringing a guy like
Starting point is 00:43:31 Devonte Adams and then Chandler Jones over from Arizona, that you have now thrust your franchise from a fan base for the fan base to be like, oh, it's Super Bowl or bust now. This is what we want. And you're ultimately at that point betting on Garoppolo. Yeah. And he's had injuries at the time. Like You're betting on Garoppolo to kind of recreate or have any magic that he had because he had time with him on New England. He had some – Garapolo had some success with the Niners. They went to the NFC championship. So you're kind of putting all your eggs since you didn't go strout, hey, we don't need him. We got Garopolo.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You made the move away from Derrick Carr. Right. And then when the ship was going down, he probably had an ultimatum like, hey, you got to let go to McDaniels or you both are gone. And he just goes down. Yeah, that is the rumors where he didn't go – he didn't fire McDaniels and therefore he also got fired. Also, Mark Davis is notorious for like having zero patients and just ripping into assistant coaches like on the plane. Yeah. And that was like reported.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So that's that that's a tough deal. He was also a guy who brought in Robert Spillane. And if you're able to find little diamonds in the rough like that, that is that's the kind of guy you want around. And the thing I know about Zig is he had multiple choices and jobs. Like he was working, he was doing consultation for the saints. Saints wanted him back. I know he was offered the assistant GM.
Starting point is 00:44:43 job for or there was talks about the assistant GM job for the Jets so he had multiple choices ended up going to the Titans obviously I want all the success in the world for that guy I love him I owe a lot of my career to him even be able to make it to Michigan so I hope he crushes but it's Chaparral high school man good for the boys good for the bus yeah good for the bus that continues and we broke the news we did yeah we didn't necessarily get all the credit for that So Ian, I saw others kind of commenting on it and we never got mentioned. Really? Yeah, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:45:16 They like quote tweeted us too or Schaeffner quote tweeted us and he's like giving backstory about like. Yeah, with Taylor. Yeah, like a chaparral guy. I was like just at least tag us. He quoted it. Yeah, but you need that exposure. Right, the exposure from, you know, the Titans are striking a deal with Dave Ziegler per bussing with the boys. It has to be per bussing with the boys.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Per busing with the boys. It's all good though. Per. You know this game. It's a fickle game. Yeah. You're going to win some. At the end, we'll see who's on top.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. We'll figure all that out. Yeah. Shout out Zicki, dude. The fucking man. We talked about it too with Baldi, but also Pete Carroll going to the Raiders. That's so awesome. I love their post too.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Like, they just had the gum sitting there. It took a photo to the field and the gun was kind of blurred out. A chunk of it. Now that he's there, like, what do you think that? they try and do in the draft do you think like shudur like do they try and make a move for like i don't know i don't know i don't know you saw the video too of the titans talking to shader no with dion facetiming do i yeah yeah like facetime in the middle of it yeah i don't know i don't know what the raiders do i'm fired up though they got pete carroll yeah or somebody who's done it's a
Starting point is 00:46:33 culture guy through and through yeah i'm wondering what max crosbie wants too i don't want to text him and like ask but like it feels like it feels like he's the feeling i have is like he wants out he wants out unless you know that there's going to be some stability and they're going all in on winning like he just wants to win he loves being with the silver and black but he wants to fucking win at the same time because he's in the prime of his career and he is perfect for the silver and black yeah he is if you're thinking about a raider that's it yeah what other team does max crosbie fit into vibe wise any of them he is the vibe he is the vibe any of them.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Max is at a point where he is the culture. He's going to bring that culture. You want to bring him into a team that's like, could get, like bring him to the Bengals. You bring him to the Bengals. All of a sudden, they're fucking. I don't think he looks as juicy in that uniform. He doesn't look as juicy in a Ravens Uni?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Oh, he would look juicy in a Ravens uni. Oh, he would look juicy in a Ravens uni. Yeah. Detroit Lions. Yeah. Which is so crazy to me still. But yeah, the Lions are that type of squad. He's a culture-changing type of guy.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Put the Dallas Star on him, him opposite of Michael, Parsons. Death. Death. Every quarterback is shitting their pants when the schedule gets released. Yeah. Tough, ma'am. God. How, um, feels like we had some football talk. How was the weekend? Dude, it kind of shitty. Yeah? I had to fly all over the place this weekend. I had to go to Fort Lauderdale and I had to go to
Starting point is 00:47:57 Boston to do some stuff from my knee thing and just basically sit there with doctors and then go, oh, your knee's fucked. And I'm like, but it's going to be all right, right? They're like, Yeah, but soon, no. And so they sit there and they're like showing me these things. Like this is where everything's messed up and all this stuff. But then I'm like, they're talking about knee replacements eventually. And I'm like, some doctors are like, hey, when people get knee replacements, they feel better than they ever have before. So I'm thinking, oh, I'll get a knee replacement someday and then just be ripping it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Like we're good. And then I talked to a doctor and he's like, that is not how it works. Like you can lightly jog, but this whole working out thing you're trying to do, that's pretty much over. So I got about good, I'm going to probably try to make it to 60. Maybe, uh, try to make it to 60. And then at 60. You're going to rock a cane. I'll be on that southwest fucking preboards at 60.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Kane would be kind of fun. Kane would be dope. So I don't know if you're allowed to like talk or touch on it, but was your knee not fixed in the second one? It was, no, they did a better job in the city. Elytosh did a good job on it. But like, because of the damage my knee sustained from the first surgery and how it wasn't put in correctly. And so it messed up a bunch of my knee. Like, it's just like, hey, the deterioration is insane.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's bad. But so I had to go to Fort Lauderdale basically tell me I was mortal. That sucked. And then I had to fly to Baltimore or Boston. I had to stop in Baltimore for three hours. I tried to do a 48 hour fast. That was miserable. But I was like, let me just see.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I'm going to be away from my family. Like, if I'm going to try to do this fast thing, I don't want to be like irritable around them. So it was just irritable by myself. So it was a fucking deal, dude. 48 hours. I did, yeah, the 48 hours. Did you get a couple cranks in? Yo, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You had a burn time. You got to burn time. You hit that bathroom real quick, you know? Oh, you did it at the airport? No, no. Hotels, though. Hotels are nuts in a hotel. But yeah, I did that little, uh, I did my second doctor's appointment in Boston.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And then I was like, hey, where's a good little steak place to go eat at? Just belly it up to a bar, like by myself, hung out, had a steak, some oysters, a couple of crab cakes, thought, now I'm not done. Order it again. Say give it to me again. There you go. And just sat there and there's a button. People just kind of coming to the bar hanging out, talk it. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah. Dinner by yourself, ma'am. Having a meal by yourself is so elite. It's peaceful. It is peaceful. It was like on five percent too. So I had to give it to the hostess. Hey, you mind charging this for me?
Starting point is 00:50:26 I put my bag over there too. So I was like without phone. Just people watching. And Boston's low-key nice. I don't think it's low-key. I don't think. I just did. I wasn't aware of Boston's game, but like walking around, I was like, it's kind of beautiful.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And I go to Logan Airport and they have this whole thing of Nantucket. And the only thing I know about Nantucket is Dave's got a nice house out there. So I start reading about Nantucket and it's like, it's really fucking nice. Well, Nantucketucket's like that, dude. Like they have this little ferry that goes over there. They have a small little airport. Used to be bait for the whaling business. And then they started to like, you know, lose a bunch of whales.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So they got away from it. But a whole bunch of tourists always come there. It's like the richest areas. in the world. In the world. It was just sick. It was dope. I'm thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:51:12 yo, where'd they film the Departed? Where is that at around here? Because you watch his department, you're thinking, oh, Boston's kind of just like, Patriots fans and gangsters.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Red Sox player, too. Oh, shit, the Red Sox are there too. Celtics. But yeah, I was walking around. I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:26 this place is fucking nice. I mess of Boston. Basically, I mess with Boston. A lot of history. How long were you in Boston? We had a tea party. I flew out.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I got there at like 2 p.m. on Saturday and flew out 5 a.m. on Sunday. And I was in a office building for four of those hours. Damn. But I was like kind of just driving around the Uber. It's beautiful. You shoot a way to text? No, I didn't shoot nobody a text.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I was running that thing solo the whole time. But it was cool. And I was walking by a couple people. People fuck with the bus out there too. Yeah. What are you doing out here? Just fucking grabbing a meal. Grabbing a bite. Just want to fly out here for a day. Yeah. I went to Boston as a kid.
Starting point is 00:52:06 dude, the history there is nuts. Got myself a replica musket when I was a kid. Sat in my room until I have it still somewhere. Shit's awesome, bro. The shit is done. You've been to Boston? Just for that when we did the Barstall Awards. But no, I haven't been to Boston.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Dude, we got to go to Boston. We got to go to Manhattan. What we got to go? We got to check out Nantucket. Whatever we go up and see Vres. I was going to say when we go see Vraves, we will. Yeah. Bray probably would live in Nantucketka, too.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Just ferry every day to work. Yeah. You see Brave having a house out there. No doubt about it. I mean, you know it is. It is what it is. You want to hit a couple of fans. What did you do this weekend?
Starting point is 00:52:46 We went out to Tampa, took the family to Tampa to visit some of, I mean, our friends, but Charo's friends. They have four kids. We had a blast. We went to the kids museum. We did all things around the kids, but just seeing Rue, they have an eight-year-old, a five-year-old, a three-year-old, and almost a one-year-old. So it's just all stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:06 up with the kids it was cool it was a lot of fun and they're like they're like your guys's vibe too where it's like they make sourdough like they do all the clean eating all the clean stuff at all times it was cold out there that was a shitty part we wanted to go out there so we could have some beach time but that week last week everywhere in south you saw even at rosemary there's like snow on the beach like on the sand yeah so it was cold out there we forced a little picnic for for dinner time one of the days just like we're just out there me and bob yeah me and bobby's just out there setting up you know you're trying to get the flux you're trying to do things where people are enjoying their sandwiches but at the same time it's like hey are we going to pack up and roll like this
Starting point is 00:53:40 was a bad idea freezing out there huh yeah it was a little cold uh but it was fun man i tell you what being around the the family and they have just four kids ripping around it kind of maybe one have four kids yeah god damn kind of maybe one have four kids four would be dope yeah they it's all it's all girls too like my heart goes out to bobby every time like they had two girls and And I remember being at our wedding. And I'm like, you guys going to have it there? Like, I'm like, bro. And, you know, he's all in on trying to get a boy thinking, like, do I have another one?
Starting point is 00:54:11 I really want a boy and just seeing him get girl. And then another girl. Like, just, you got to put your arms around him. Yeah, you get three girls in a row. You think the logical move is sew it up. Yeah. Be done. But he went another time.
Starting point is 00:54:23 That's what happened to Tony Dews as well. They might have a fifth. Really? Maybe. He's like, he says he doesn't want to him. I'm like, well, are you snip? He's like, no, I'm like, you're not. Unless you get stiff.
Starting point is 00:54:33 bro like you're going to have five right right right but it was fun it was a fun weekend family stone dude family stone guys got to watch that movie you want to see you want to see a movie that's going to make you want a thousand kids watch family stone we're getting we getting a third one yet i mean not yet love practice all about it dude get in the film love practicing take an actual game right now yeah yeah yeah if you've been telling taylin about the so court press we got going The one has... Matthew, what Kyle said? No.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I'll go to that send it. Yeah, you should. Because I didn't even tell her that people were saying you need to have a third. I basically agreed to have a third. She doesn't know that I meant to have a third. At Christmas time, I pulled her aside and told her, like, I just want you to know we're going to work on him. She did tell me that. She did tell me that.
Starting point is 00:55:20 If you were more focused on your gingerbread house instead of having that conversation, you might have won. No, I mean, I didn't care about gingerbread houses, but I'm just there to have fun. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I got to... I got to do it there. Fuck. I mean, I'm stoked. I'm stoked.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'm stoked. But also. It's the diapers for me, boys. And if we're in a safe space, can we just have a safe space for a moment? Maybe. Okay. No, if it's not going to be a safe space.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh, safe space. Safe space. Bro, the diapers. And honestly, the pre-no, you know what? There needs to be a book put out about what dads go through during pregnancy as well. There's a lot of footwork that goes involved. You talk about the, hey, can you do me a favors? like yeah the post-pregnancy thing is one thing too but like dog you get to that second trimester
Starting point is 00:56:07 really the whole thing because the first trimester we're throwing up the whole we they're throwing up the whole time and it's like yeah like you're throwing up I'm over here handling these kids yeah running around you're digging I'm getting you the water you're taking all the project and this is a safe space I'm just venting yeah safe space for all the girls dads for all the dad's out there so we can't like judge me dude don't judge me but like and if you see this you're not allowed to judge either dude but it's a lot of work for the dads yeah honey on my stomach all day it's like we go you know spring tour right we'll go bang bang boom we're gone 24 hours hardly any sleep we're back i've had such a hard day did you no i'm kidding i'm playing into it a little bit but i mean bro it's a lot it's a lot
Starting point is 00:56:53 and i understand that it's worth it trust me i understand that it's worth it i know that my boy you're in it right now. Yeah. And I can see it in your face how much it's worth it. But it's a lot, dude. And the breastfeeding thing, like, Tailing is such a good mom. She's like,
Starting point is 00:57:10 she's got them kids on the nip for like 15 months. She got them things just suckling down, dude, uttering her. And it's like the hormone thing, they don't balance out until nine months after. So you're talking about nine months of pregnancy, which is really 10 months. That's how they get your ass.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It's actually 10 months of pregnancy. Then, postpartum, that whole six week, the darkest six weeks of your life. Then you got a breastfeed for 15 months. Hormones are all over the place. You're firing bullets. I got two kids yelling at me.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I got a wife who is like from an emotional maturity standpoint, the greatest, but still having a hard time. And then you have nine months after that. You're talking about it's like three years. Yeah. That's like I think Tailing just got out of being hormonal. Oh gosh. Not that way.
Starting point is 00:57:57 No, no. This is the same space. Keep digging. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a safe space. I'm not saying she's, like, irrational. I'm saying, like, because of that time frame, she's just out of it. And Willow's 4.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah. I don't feel safe anymore, you guys are not making me feel safe. The bus is extra quiet. But maybe the listeners. No, they understood it. It's a safe space. 60 million listeners. You guys think I'm out.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Is it about a pocket? If your emotional maturity matches hers, I think you guys crush it. That means we're fucked. No, what do you mean? My emotional maturity is not that great. Hers is, fucking... It's what I'm saying if you match it,
Starting point is 00:58:36 you crush it. If I match her emotional maturity. Right, right, right. Because you got, obviously you've got to be able to absorb and take the punches and roll with the punches. And we do, and we do,
Starting point is 00:58:44 but I'm just talking in a safe space right now. No, I know, but we're trying to talk you and having kids. And I've already said I'm in. But I'm saying, this is where my... So you're in, you're going to have a third. I've already said, I said it allows to do with Clay.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Just to be clear, you're going to have a third. Yeah. Say it. well i've said well i'm gonna have a third no listen we can't do this yeah say i'm gonna have a third kid now i think we gotta cut everything i just said
Starting point is 00:59:05 because i feel like tainl's gonna see this and be like yo what the fuck this is a good conversation yeah it's good yeah this is you guys made me feel unsafe no that's what the pods for bro to talk about it man damn i can't believe you guys did that to me dude we're not good okay don't
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'd be excited because each of his first two kids he's gotten a time i'm right into football season so now he'll be he'll be in it for real yeah I'm smart and like I didn't even know I was being that smart until I think when I had Willow and somebody pulled me aside was like you know you kind of did it right I'm like what you mean yeah you listen to the coaches
Starting point is 00:59:42 you listen to the players you're like yeah that is the that is the math that's the method yeah if you don't have a third oh god these fucking old I shave my head and your mustache I think if you If you don't have a third, you have to transition. Ooh, that could be a fun vlog.
Starting point is 01:00:05 In this climate? You'll be transitioning this climate right now? If it was last year, I'd be a no-brainer. We could figure something out. I probably won't transition. But we can figure something out. I'll have a third, guys, okay? Don't tell my wife.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Nobody tell my wife. I just texted her. I said we got him. Here's the voice memo. This episode never released. We're not, yeah. Like, no one talk about this episode. We're just going to surprise Taylin.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Silent download episode. I do want to just, I know this is a complete insurance policy. My wife's incredible. She's amazing. You were saying that the whole time. I know, but I feel like the way, that was never the problem. The way the air was leaving the building, I was like, holy shit. I just don't want Taylor to be mad.
Starting point is 01:00:52 No. You know what I think you're going to be mad. I think every person. She's horminally mature. She won't be mad. She's hormonally mature. I think everybody listening out there we understand the cross
Starting point is 01:01:00 that the women have to bear in this whole thing. So it always feels a little slippery when we're trying to talk about our anger. I'm with you. You know I try and pioneer the dad stuff all the time. Like, dad lives matter just as much. Like, we need safe space to talk as well.
Starting point is 01:01:12 So it feels a little uncomfortable. I think that's what you were feeling. I can't wait like 20 years from now when my kids are like, Dad, why did you decide to have me? And when it's going to be like, we didn't actually decide to kind of just you were such a beautiful surprise.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And then Willis and be like, you know, we all obviously, didn't want just one kid we're going to have two and then my third kids be like dad why'd you have me he's like well daddy was bullied by his friends was bullied by his friends actually let's go watch the film right now this is why you were born right here
Starting point is 01:01:39 I used to do this podcast yeah I quit it it could be a boy it won't be a boy I'm telling you right now it's not gonna be a boy my dick my balls cannot comprehend the idea of having a ball a boy you know when you see the videos on it's like
Starting point is 01:01:56 the European mind can't comprehend this and it's like a dope football scene or whatever, my testicles cannot comprehend why chromosomes. They can't fucking get it together. It's a Girl Dead podcast. They can't read. They can't fucking read, dude, exactly.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Sick. Dude, I went to, so I went to a jihitsu class. I took Willow on Tuesday and there was a mom there silently grinding by herself. But one of her kids was doing the class with Willow.
Starting point is 01:02:25 She had two twin boys in the age of like two to three. And she had to get up and leave after like five minutes. These little fuckers. And I was like, I was smiling the whole time. Like, yeah, that's beautiful. Like good for you. But these little guys were on the mat, fucking around with each other, throwing each other
Starting point is 01:02:40 under the wall, face planting each other. The mom's like, guys, guys, come on, come on. And they know of the teachers say anything. But then the mom goes on the mat with the shoes on. And then one of the fucking sensea was like, hey, hey, yelling at the mom. And she just got, she had to bug you out of her, go out in the waiting room. It's kind of beautiful. You bring up the can't reading.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Like, I had a situation where, we're driving and Rue wants to pick the song on Spotify. Like we're like, hey, what song do you want? She's like, I want to pick it. To her, she was starting to get herself worked up. And I just had to stop and I had to just turn around and look at it. I go, Roo, you can't read. You can't, you're not able to scroll and pick the song.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Like, what song do you want? But that was, we had a good laugh. Rue, sweetheart, you can't read. Do we do this like guided meditation at bedtime? She's like, when can read now? When's about just as good as me. So she's gone away.
Starting point is 01:03:31 But Willow, Willow, she can't read. And we do like guided meditations on Spotify, but she does the same thing. She wants to pick it. And she'll like, look at one and be like, okay, what about this one? What's that one saying?
Starting point is 01:03:41 I'll read it to her. And then she'll go back to look at it. Just adds the time so much. When I'm like, I just want to kind of have me time. Yeah. So I'll just tell her, honey. Don't worry about what the word say. Which one speaks to you?
Starting point is 01:03:52 Which one in your brain are you like? I like that. What speaks to you? We're like, this is going to help me go to sleep. Yeah. And that really speeds the process up. That's a nice one.
Starting point is 01:04:00 She feels more in touch with herself. We get a nice one going. You hit and you hear, you start to hear it come on. You're like, oh, my gosh, this is, this is it. Take a deep breath. Yeah. And you're like, oh, we picked, oh, that's a good one. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:11 What's this one called? Mermaids in the underwater world. That's what we had last night. That's the one that spoke to her last night. It was beautiful, dude. Absolutely beautiful. Having kids is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Onward. We got anything. else should we rip the interview with uh baldie what do you think shirm yeah we have some fan questions let's do some fan questions let's do an ad read let's do an ad read and let's use some fan questions ba boom ad read pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop up as you prepare to host game day celebrations what are a possible whole body odor related issues you may encounter that make you less confident in your hosting duties are you afraid of taking your shoes off when entering your friend's house getting nervous your team is down at half time
Starting point is 01:04:56 tackle whole body odor with Dove Men Plus Care Whole Body Deo. This whole body deal defends against all odor zones. That's pits, privates, and feet people. And it's long lasting 72 hour odor protection. Find Dove Men Whole Body Deo at Walmart today. Fan questions. The first fan question. Will Compton, what's going to happen to your museum at Barstool?
Starting point is 01:05:19 I don't know. I think Big Cat said he's trying to find other Will Comptons throughout the world, throughout the country to just kind of add to it and not make it solely specified to Wilcompton. But it's like whatever you do with it doesn't like that Wilcofton Museums forever. You can even take it down like that's forever. It'll live forever. It'll live forever.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Because if they take it down it ultimately it's because of the split up the separation and everything else but we all know. We all know. Love is still there. Yeah, the love is still there. Right. The love is still there. When is our independent merch going to be up and running? That's a great question. One that I don't think we have answers to you. We don't have the answer. But we will have
Starting point is 01:05:54 merch and it will be independent and it will be up and running. Yeah. TBD. Yeah, TBD. TBD. Will there be a fire sale on our Barstil merch? Another great question. I'm not, I'm not exactly sure how all the transitioning and everything is going to be taking
Starting point is 01:06:09 place. Great question for Garrett. If Garrett wants to grab the microphone and get us out of this, are we going to be running a sale for the Barstall merch that we currently have? Or ultimately, like, just like business wise and everything else, we have to buy back the inventory, give it away. I have no clue. We haven't discussed that. That is actually a great idea.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So hopefully we'll have an answer for you on that. That's a great idea. We should go to like a farmer's market. I don't have it in front. Well, shout out you guys. We should do like a farmer's market type thing like set up at a farmer's market like Franklin's or German towns.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. You just rip like 60 to 70% off. Will and Taylor slinging merch at the flea market? Sling and merch? Yeah. Will and Taylor or the boys in the back? I mean, it's a brainstorm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We'll definitely. We'll pop-up. We'll pop-up shop in 12 South. Yeah. We do it at Taylor's house. Nope. Not going to do that. But we can definitely find a good place to do it.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Maybe find a field somewhere. Leave clues around Broadway. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do a scavenger hunt. You know what I'm excited for? Tell me. Our wristream this Thursday.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Oh, my God, dude. I am so excited. And all the boys are coming in. Right. Corey from Nashville. Let's give a little context. People know the tier ones know about risk, but there's some balddinger fans walking in right now, not knowing what you're talking about. So lay it down.
Starting point is 01:07:30 The year is 20-20. So risk is a war strategy game where ultimately you have up to, what am I explaining the game risk? I hope people know the game risk. I'm saying explain to why this stream is happening. Oh, okay. So back during COVID when we're locked in our houses, Taylor was out in L.A., all the boys we'd get on and play video games. We play Rocket League, but our favorite was risk. We probably played, what, 30 games of risk, 40, 50 games of risk.
Starting point is 01:07:56 A week. We would stay up to like three in the morning, damn near every night playing risk. It was myself, Tara Luan, Corey Levin, Dennis Kelly, and Brad LeBron. You can only have five in at a time or up to five players, and that would be our five. And now what we're doing, fast forward to now, we're going to get the risk stream, compete again, get all the boys back together for a wrist stream this Thursday. Tick and tick and it starts at 9 p.m. It'll be on YouTube. Central time.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And we're getting that same group together. myself taylor kori dennis coming from is he in indianapolis he's yeah and he's outside of indianapolis and brad lebrot driving flying down from bontair missouri it's going to be awesome dude it's getting all the boys together dennis kelly you remember him tessie titans he would come in he has multiple touchdowns cori 11 long time tessie tithin bounced around a little bit there's an argument we'll probably bring up with the stream i saved his career myself will compton and then will's autistic friend brad they are oh shots in brad he is the best brad is the best brad is the best Brad hated, we hated each other when we first met each other.
Starting point is 01:08:55 But fucking love Brad, dude. Love him. Can I even get in. Best Rocket League partner I've ever had. We will be, uh, I'm looking to get a little banged up, too, get on some, some canned vitamins. Some cans. Yeah, some canned vitamins. I've been on dry January, but I think I'll break it.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Well, dry January, it's not. I know, but dry from everything. Oh, everything except nicotine. Oh, okay. Yeah. Everything except nicotine, right? Some things you got to stand on, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Yeah. stuff. But I'm excited. I am so excited about that stream. It's going to be so much fun to get the boys. My goal to, for our stream is that we need to figure out a way to have a beer counter and I want to count how many beers that Dennis Kelly drinks in one sitting. That is truly, it's part. Some tweez. Some tweez. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do tweez. We'll do tweez for Dennis Kelly. He is, I've never seen a man put down as many beers that we had a sleepover at my house that one night. Yep. And it was you, me, Quentin Nelson, Dennis Kelly. Was Brad there? Brad. and we all played games all night
Starting point is 01:09:54 and Dennis sat on this chair did not move the whole entire time not even to pee swear to God 28 beers Swear to God 208 beers Dennis. Dennis Kelly is your beer drinking old man who does not leave his chair
Starting point is 01:10:06 and just pounds beers He just deletes it was he totally okay until he wasn't he's totally okay until he was asleep and snoring The perfect way to put it the perfect way to put it He's fought like when we played risk and he's up drinking late
Starting point is 01:10:19 he's put down so many or he's okay until he's not to where we ultimately start hearing him snore on the stream. Dennis, it's your move and then you'll just hear. I guess we're done playing because we can't get him off the game.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Corey's falling asleep too. Corey falls asleep too. It's so funny, dude. It's so funny. Because then when you're eliminated, like we'll make the person still, like they'll still just sit there and watch and talk and chat and everything else
Starting point is 01:10:44 and they'll just fall asleep. Yeah. It's so great, dude. It's such a fun time. It's going to be, Have you started texting people yet? No, I have not. I figured you'd be the Jersey Jerry of the group to start texting people.
Starting point is 01:10:54 No, we got to team up a little bit. I'm waiting for the game, bro. Speaking of falling asleep, Jack McPherson fell asleep on last week's back of the bus stream with the boys. Putting out great content. It's pretty impressive. I mean, sleep streaming was trending on Twitter too after that. So, yeah, I mean, you have one bad minute.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I will say hand up accountability. Shouldn't fall asleep on stream. You have one bad minute. The rest of the 59 doesn't even matter for the rest of the day. It's like an office alignment, You can have a great game. Yeah. One sack.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It's over. It's over. So I will say on a positive note, it was overwhelmingly positive chat saying, because we had a lot of fun ideas going around with blindfolded cod. A lot of blindfolded. A lot of blindfolded. Shirm was just shirtless, obviously, the whole time. But yeah. So hand up.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It won't happen again. But it did sucks. Huh? It might happen again. I mean, I'm going to fall asleep eventually at some point. mean, like on stream, hopefully not. But you had a good run because you were, you'd fall asleep when we'd hit the road, but you weren't falling asleep throughout the fall tour.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I know. I got to caught up to you. Caught up to me finally, 2025. But yeah, hand up. It got to be better. So apologize to the fans, my family, ex-girlfriends. We'll be better. What, uh, was any part of you?
Starting point is 01:12:11 Like, how did he know or how did he find out? What, you guys? Yeah. Yeah. Because the clip wasn't out there yet. No, I mean, I assumed one of the, of the guys here probably texted it to you like a bunch of scumbagg so
Starting point is 01:12:22 it was either JP or Sherm and it was probably Sherm. What about Jared? Who was it? I mean Jared was the snitch. I can't tell my sources. Then it had to have been JP. Snitch case. I can't tell my sources.
Starting point is 01:12:35 JP or Jared or Sherm and I was texting pretty much all the boys maybe not Mitch throughout the weekend. No, actually that's false because we were talking about the locker room. I asked you what your best bet is I never brought it I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:12:54 bro was that like was that actually on the over the weekend like or was that last night yesterday I have to remind Will to do ads multiple times so we're we're we're
Starting point is 01:13:06 we're all work in progress yeah we're all working so who snitched I listen give a hint I'm not at liberty to talk about because I know you all weren't watching our stream like I know y'all don't watch our streams I noticed that
Starting point is 01:13:18 Will comments on every stream we do and says the comments are popping off. And he's going to comment on all streams. Like the actual comment under the video once it's published because no one like comments on the actual stream. Like they comment in the live chat but not on the video. But yeah, it was fun. We definitely have something with blindfolded something. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So we'll be back. Stronger than ever. Sleepier than ever. Sleepier than ever. Yeah, it was. That was a good call. Was that you? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Was that me? Who was it G that did blindfolded cod? That was genius. That was genius. Coop got a kill, right? Coop got a kill blindfolded. That's so awesome. He went one and eight blindfolded.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I said it would be coop also. Oh, yeah. He just got that. He had a better KD than two guys on his team, and he was blindfolded. Let that sink in. Also, just a little. update on numbers. Our stream is 500 views away from Topping Giles
Starting point is 01:14:25 four-hour cod stream. So just want to throw that out there for the fans who stuck with us. So thank you. And we will be sleep streaming on Thursday night at 8 p.m. leading up into the wrist stream. So come tap in, read us a bedtime story. Do you guys want to stream before our stream?
Starting point is 01:14:42 We'll just transition your stream into... That might be good because if y'all stream ends up going super late, 3 a.m. I'm definitely, I'll probably be asleep on Friday than, you know, for another stream if we're up to like 3 or 4. We also have to shoot the other part of the locker room on Friday. Yeah. So, I mean, we can figure it out. But yeah, we'll definitely, well, whether it's Thursday or Friday, well, the back of the bus, we rise. I love it. The tier ones, we've got a solid little audience that tunes in now. It's not the biggest, it's all you need. It's not the mighty. It's all you.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Man, are they strong. What do they tell you is if you build a core fan base, they will That's all you need. Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz says you only need three guys. You build a core fan base. They will come. Why? Well, hopefully now they just go at Jack because he fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I'm not shouting out anyone until I find out who snitched on me. So actually, it's one, it's one. You two or Jared has to be. Watch it be, Jared, dude. I mean, you're the one who fucked me, basically. Well, I decided to put stuff. of on you once the backside I mean it's my fault
Starting point is 01:15:51 at the end of the day accountability check out the wrist stream and possibly our street is so funny What I'm not a quarterback I'm not a quarterback I'm not
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Starting point is 01:17:33 but he had 14 great games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, no, but if you put that line, that one game. Oh, no, no, y'all go. I just was just picking his brain. No, I got to go meet my cabinet guys. They put in the cabinets and shit moving fast.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Let's go, dude. That sounds like a really tough Monday, Delane, like putting those cabinets in there. That's a stressful Monday. But that's what happens when you play 14 years and you look like that, and, like, you won the game. You could put cabinets in on Monday. Well, yeah, you won the game. You won the game, bro. Like, honestly, all I hope for every player is that you get a career, you come out healthy, reasonably healthy,
Starting point is 01:18:18 and you can transition to do something else. You got to say that on the bus. We got to stop talking. Yeah, yeah. You got to stop talking. You got to have a good show. It's just conversation. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Who's idea with the bus? The podcast idea was Will's idea. What was it? On a bus, though? Was that, did you have that? The bus idea, Taylor wanted the bus. With the production crew that we were working with at the very beginning,
Starting point is 01:18:48 when they were contracted out. We had like a meeting and sit down and talk about like what it can look like and everything else. And they brought up there like, hey, what about this bus in the back? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:57 We're rolling? Makes me rolling? All right. No, yeah. That's an opinion is great. No, because one of the things I wanted to see run by you guys was like I always loved the Madden bus. You know,
Starting point is 01:19:07 but what if we put a bus together for training camp tour? And we just did like a three week tour. And we just did this. And we just bring a guy in from the team, like two or three guys like before practice after practice and just shot the shit with them. Right in the bus. the idea. Get a sponsor? Like,
Starting point is 01:19:22 we're rolling on the bus, man. Yeah. We're called Grit Week? Huh? We call it Grit Week. That's a nice original idea. You like that idea? I do. Where'd that come from? Grit Week. That's a, that's, that, Will's brain. Is it? Okay. No, no, no, no. A part of my take. Have you been on part of my take? Yeah, I have. With Big Cat and the Boys. Yeah, I love those guys. Yeah, they're great.
Starting point is 01:19:39 DFT's down bad right now. Washington. You just see his face. Yeah. Because I texted him last week when they were playing the Lions and it was pretty much done. I was like, hey, congratulations. You goes, a lot of ball left. It was like five left in the fourth. It's like, brother, it's over. Yeah. It is over. And you had to see his face sit next to Rhone in that game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah. Now, if you were to do something like that, you got to do it within the confinements of the NFL. No. Are you able to do it? No, I would, I'd still do my NFL duties, you know, training camp things. Like, I try to go as many camps as I can because that's when you meet the new guys. Like, that's when I met, you know, you know, everybody, Jane Daniels and everybody in Washington last year. But, no, I'd like to go face to face and meet these guys.
Starting point is 01:20:19 But I could do my NFL stuff and combine it with everything else. Really? Yeah. Seems like you have like a nice contract with the NFL. You're able to do your own thing also outside of them? Well, like, you know, in this world, like, you know, you got to look out for yourself. You know, all these networks are dying, right? So, you know, they're cutting people left and right.
Starting point is 01:20:36 You've got to, like, figure out what you're going to do, keep it going. Create your own, you got to create your own gig. Yeah. Did you ever struggle when you retired on what you wanted to do next? It's something we kind of talked to every ex-player, whether it be coach. You know what's funny about that? I came from a family with three brothers. So we all played, right?
Starting point is 01:20:54 So I played 12 years. My brother Rich played 12. My brother, Gary played like seven or eight. So when I got done, I tried to play one more year, right? I couldn't pass the physical. I had a,
Starting point is 01:21:02 before like the sports hernia thing became kind of well known. Nobody knew what it was. Yeah. So like they kind of misdiagnosed it and they lost an off season. What did they say it was? They said it was a groin pole.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I'm like, I know what a groin pole. Because I had a sport hernia. So you go to Philly, you get it done. Dr. Myers does it in Philly. I went to Germany. You did? Because you know with Dr. Myers, I mean, you'll be familiar since you've had this sport hernia,
Starting point is 01:21:24 but Dr. Myers and Philly, they would use the mesh. They would build around the mesh. In Germany, they had this doc over there that would just knock out tens of soccer players, maybe 100 soccer players a day. Just in and out, they walk out of surgery, but she uses your own tissue. So I went over there to Germany and fixed my sport hernia. And I walked like cathedrals. Like I think I put in like three miles that day after walking out of the surgery.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I was running on the Alter G at 70, 80%, like nine days after. Did you do it during the season? Right after, no, I did it in between the season and pro day. Oh, so it was my senior year of college, yeah. Oh, wow. But Nebraska would send people over to Germany and not do, because they did also Dr. Mars, but a couple guys had some issues with the mesh plate that would happen.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Okay, okay. That would happen. You didn't really have any injuries at all in the NFL, right? It was all college. It was all college. I had several in college. I had my labor room. I had 12 anchors on my,
Starting point is 01:22:17 laborum I broke my foot I had I was apparently born with like an extra perineal tendon in my ankle so I had to get that removed I had a sport hernia surgery I know this is about baldy but like with the extra tendon in your foot like what was that that didn't add to anything that it helped you out more I would think so but I guess I got the opposite effect of it no shit because I would you know I'm like joking around the out lock room I'm like well fuck it I didn't benefit from the extra muscle from the extra muscles like you guys get yeah exactly I like plant wrong and it would just fire up and I would be out like for just a full series but in bizarre pain but after like 10 minutes go by I'd be back to normal similar to a stinger was that type of pain because the stinger's one of those things where you're like you get in you're like holy shit I might be paralyzed
Starting point is 01:23:04 like a pinch short pain like a minute later you're fine yeah like a pinch short pain like something happened but then after 10 minutes I'd be good to go out there but then they went in with an MRI and they're like hey you have an extra perennial tendon in your ankle so we gotta get that right they're like it's creating like a sandpaper effect where all the tendons are rubbing against the joke.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And then that was easy surgery that has removed it, stitched it up real quick and you were fine. Well, it took, it was probably a three, four month recovery process. Yeah. So it was one of those,
Starting point is 01:23:25 like, uh, postseason major, like major, major ones. I think it's like, what four months are like the major ones. Like you have labor them.
Starting point is 01:23:32 You got ACO, which is like six to six to nine months. Yeah. Yeah. What was your worst? What was your worst injury? Uh, I had some,
Starting point is 01:23:38 I had 13, 13 surgeries. But I had, 13 surgeries? 13 surgeries? 13, but, but,
Starting point is 01:23:42 but I mean, after football too because you guys are young you guys are young so like you guys like for example like I had the sports hernia right so Dr. Myers of Philly did mine but when I was in I was in Philly at the time it kind of ended my thing but I remember I was kicking a soccer ball with like one of my goddaughters right and I'm like at the beach kicking soccer ball and I missed the ball and he hit the sand and I freaking tore a sports hernia thing I had to go back and get a service no shit stupid shit you know like I you know so those kind of things I remember I remember I was, I had this girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:24:15 She was training for a triathlon. I'm like, I'll do that. It's a pussy working. I'll go running with her. Next thing I know, like, I break my metatarsal, and I tear a metatarsal running on the cement. Then I tear my next one. Like they said, if you don't get this thing fixed, you're going to rip every single metatarsal. They're all going to snap.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And I'm like, oh, fuck, maybe that's the thing of, like, getting old or something, you know, like the bones just aren't brittle or something. So I had to get that surgically repaired and fused and all that kind of stuff. That sucked. So you hit off the field. Yeah. You're a menace off the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I remember one time we were, you know, like if you go like out on a lake and you get on one of those intertubes. Yeah. So our left tackle in Dallas was this guy Mark two and a. And these Polynesia guys, they never get hurt, right? No. They're built different. They'll build different, right? So we're out there inter tubing like a week before training camp one year.
Starting point is 01:25:02 And like we're freaking hitting high speeds. And his leg catches like some wave hanging out and it freaking tears his medial collateral ligament. Like he's out. Like our coach went ballistic, like no more intertube, you know, rules and stuff like that. But I had the basic stuff, you know, like just. Don't know, you can't, hold on you can't look at your right hand, ignore it, and then look like your left hand. You know, I had the basic stuff. I mean, that thing's taking a hard right turn.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Yeah, that's, you know, that's pretty common injury. Like, it just doesn't get repaired, you know. No, all of them. So the first time I was ever, I remember, we did one of your baldy breakdowns at the Pro Bowl one year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm walking in. I wasn't, I wasn't familiar with your game. at that point and they were like hey uh brian baldinger blah blah he's got the finger don't look at
Starting point is 01:25:47 his pinky that was the thing i was like he's got the finger he's got the finger and i'm like what are they talking about the finger and you came out and shook my hand i could feel like a little like you know the scary movie we're like this is my strong hand that kind of thing going on so how did you get it and why in god's earth have you not just put a pin in that thing and fixed it well so it happened at training camp one year and you know just doing inside drills i had randy white was our pro bowl you know all pro tackle and i just had a grip on him right and my finger got caught in his jersey and it really it looks like a dewcloth from a dog it was just dangling right so i'm freaking screaming right like fuck like i'm looking at it i'm screaming more because it didn't
Starting point is 01:26:23 hurt that bad but it was just dangling like that so they go over and they tape it up and they put it back so i go back in so anyways like the morning practice ends and the whole defense line of dallas used to sit in the front row of the cafeteria and just ruin everybody that came down the stairs into the cafeteria so when i came in that day after practice like i I'm coming down in the cafeteria to go to lunch. And the whole defense line, they just start crying. Wow, wow. Like, Baldi, like, you got hurt.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Everybody's just like imitating me whining on the field. And then they all stood up and they all put their hands up. And they're like, join the club. And they all had fucked up fingers. So I was like, wow, I'm part of the club now, man. That was a good thing. And I was a young player and everything. So I felt like I was, you know, it's my man card right there.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Yeah. It's like you sit in a room with Baldy. It's like, hey, are we going to talk about the pinky in the room? Yeah. Yeah. It comes around. It was like, and that's hilarious that you didn't know. Like, I remember being young and just watching Baldy on TV.
Starting point is 01:27:21 And it's, you just couldn't miss it. You're just, it's so bizarre that even you start to think in your own head, like, does he realize how bad this is? There's a lot of guys that bad. Munoz has one like this. You know, so like you see Anthony, he's got one. So like, it's an official bad pinky club. Like, there's a lot of people that are in that club. Yeah, like, I've got this, this finger right here.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And then this thing. on my other UCL that's torn off. I just didn't get it fixed. Yeah. But like that thing's like a, that's a straggler. They say no man left behind. They tried to fix it one year, right? And they said, okay, they went and they put a splint on it, and they did a little surgery
Starting point is 01:27:55 on it, the whole thing. And they said, don't do anything for like six weeks. Just let it set. So, you know, like three days later, I'm playing basketball. And a ball freaking hits my finger. The split flies off and it goes right back. I'm like, I'm done. That's it.
Starting point is 01:28:09 That's it. What about now? Have you ever thought? It's kind of like Michael Strayhan, the way he has the gap in his teeth. He gets the gap fix. He's like, I have the gap back.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Like, people know me because they don't know shit about anything I did in the NFL. Yeah. Or maybe they know some things from Baldi's breakdowns, but they know the finger. Yeah. Like they want their picture taken with the finger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I mean, that pinky has ass on it. Yeah. I can't get any change out of my pocket, well. No doubt. It just falls right through. Yeah. Yeah. Do you make a fist for me?
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah. Yeah, that thing just fighting the good fight every day. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, of all of all of the injuries, what was, what was your worst injury you ever have? I think, you know, just your basic ACL. Back then, though, I had my ACL done in college. It's your basic ACL. So back then, you know, now, like you literally, they have you working out as soon as you come out of surgery now with these ACLs, right?
Starting point is 01:28:59 Yeah, if it's isolated, yeah. So, you know, they put you in a, like, you know, some kind of a splint or whatever. Like, I was in a cast from my hip to my toe for six months. So my whole leg just atrophied. Like it was embarrassing. I was like still thinking I was an offense alignment and I had like a stick figure of the leg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:17 It took so long for that didn't come back. It's got my legs now. Yeah. He's got it. Isn't it crazy that they put that you in a cast and they put you at like a 10 degree angle correct? And now that's like the thing they're like, hey, we need to get full extension and full flexion as fast as possible.
Starting point is 01:29:31 That's everything everyone's working on all the time with the ACL. Yeah. Dude, when you saw that transition, we're like, man, they kind of fucked me then. No, obviously because medicine wasn't where I need to be at the time. is that like I didn't know anything back then, you know, like nobody knew anything. And I was at Duke and I kind of knew the doctor that was doing it. You know, I came into the surgery, the guy's smoking a cigarette, you know, and I'm looking up and I'm just ready to take the gas to go out.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And I see these ashes of a cigarette. I'm like, did these fucking ashes fall in his knee? Like, I'm really fucked. But, you know, back then- That is crazy. Yeah, I'm smoking right outside the operating room. But, you know, the good thing was I never had another issue with the knee. Like, I never had it re-injured or anything like that. They fixed it.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Like, you know, it got like a little arthritic, you know, now. But for the most part, like, it has never given me another bit of problem. Wow. The rest of my career. I'm jealous. What do you think when you look at the game now and all the benefits that guys have? Well, no more two a days. You're part of, like, probably that three days.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I'd get a part-time job right now. Well, I'd be doing busting with the boys. I have to practice. Yeah. Like, honestly, like, it's, you know, I mean, I guess it's all for the good. But, you know, training camp was a matter of survival. Like, when I came to Dallas, we had to. 110 free agents.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And we had 15 draft picks. So we had 125 rookies. So every day after practice, all the rookies would scrimmage. And so we would, that's when we got our- Full pads, you guys are scrimmage. We had full pads every single day, like morning and afternoon. And then we, you know, then we did conditioning. So like literally, guys would quit.
Starting point is 01:31:00 They were like, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm done. Like the Navy SEALs, you got a bell in the corner. He's got to ring it three times and you're out. And the money back in too. Guys would walk out to me like, I don't want to do this thing. They just fucking walk back in. turning pads in and leave.
Starting point is 01:31:10 That was it. You know, so it was like survival of the finish. So I was like, my rookie year, I was the only free agent that made it, you know. But like, it was just survival, you know. And so that was kind of cool, you know, to be able to like beat all these draft picks out back in early in the days. Yeah. But the only way you could do it is by like competing every day like that. So now it's, you know, it's a lot different.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I think, you know, you could play a lot longer now. I mean, you being. I mean, you still play 12 years. Yeah. Unundrafted cat and being the only undrafted guy to kind of make the team. Well, like, what was your first paycheck? What was the money back there for her drafting? Here's the contract.
Starting point is 01:31:42 So I'm at Duke and the draft, my other brother that came out the same year. Right. So my brother was drafted in the 10th round out of Wake Forest by the giant. 10th round. 10th round. Okay, it was 12 rounds back then. This is 1982.
Starting point is 01:31:54 So my brother gets drafted and I don't get a phone. I don't get drafted. I'm like, that's my younger brother. Like, he's the lazy piece of shit. Like, he got drafted in the 10th round. The guy fucking like slept all summer long. Like, he gets drafted. I'm like, what's that say about me?
Starting point is 01:32:07 Right. So anyways, the Cowboys called me up and they want to sign me as a free agent, right? So I go, okay, so this guy, Buck Buchanan calls me up. So I thought Buck Buchanan was like the Hall of Fame, Buck Buchanan is going to come and get. So I'm thinking some Hall of Fame was coming to sign me. Buck Buchanan is the equipment manager for the Cowboys. And like they had so many guys they wanted to sign, they'd send secretaries, you know, equipment managers,
Starting point is 01:32:29 trainers, they'd send everybody out to sign these contracts. So they send this guy out there and I'm still taking my finals. So I kind of meet the guy. Nice guy. Retired Air Force Colonel, you know, his son is still the equipment manager for the Cowboys now. So he offered me a contract, three-year deal, $32, $34,000 and $36,000.
Starting point is 01:32:49 All right? So the signing bonus was $500. So I had a Plymouth Fury, but it didn't have any brakes. I needed to get the brakes fixed to drive home. So I said, I need at least enough money to get my brakes fix. Can we get $1,000? Well, I ended up talking them up to $1,200. So I got $1,200 and $32,000.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And the equipment manager is the one doing the negotiation. I guess he'll give him $700 more. He's called me on the phone. He's calling me collect to the Cowboys on my one phone in the kitchen, you know, in the apartment. And he's calling the Cowboys to see if he could give me the $1,200. So I got the $1,200 out of them. So I felt like, you know, I kind of pinched them pretty good. So I got that.
Starting point is 01:33:24 But that year, that year we went on strike. So they paid you per game. So we only played nine games that year. So I only made $18,000. And we went to the playoffs. I made some money in the playoffs. What were playoff checks like back then? So I made that year, Taylor, we won the first round, second rounds.
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Starting point is 01:34:31 dot U.S. to learn more. Back to the episode. Was that Russ Grimm's Redskins? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was the Hogs. The Hogs, man. That was their first championship, 82.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Really? They beat the Dolphins in a Super Bowl. I always knew about the hogs, but I never, I never, like, fully understood all the players, everything, until Russ Kim in 2016 came to the Titans. The greatest coach I've ever had in my entire life. Really? He was amazing. He has an incredible job of, the coach I had before Bob Bostad. He came, he was a Wisconsin guy.
Starting point is 01:35:02 I think he was a linebacker at Wisconsin. or linebackers coach, ends up being the office of line coach under Ken Wisenhunt. He's all right, but he's very much devil's in the details that guy. You gotta know your job,
Starting point is 01:35:12 everybody's job, running back's job, wide receivers, tights. You need to own everything. And it was like, holy shit, I'm in the NFL. Right. So I'm in this kind of overthinking category
Starting point is 01:35:21 of every single play. I'm not only thinking about my job of just getting the end or double teaming. Yeah. I'm thinking about what's a tight end got to do, all these things. As soon as Russ Grimm comes in, he goes, hey,
Starting point is 01:35:32 talk to me about Stutter. Stutter is the open side. open side power. Okay. And I'm like, well, okay, if I have a man on me, then I step inside of a feet comes. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, deuce to the mic or man.
Starting point is 01:35:43 That's it. That's all you got. Got it. And because of him, he simplified everything. He simplified things for me so much to where once I knew the playbook, three weeks in, I got bored and started learning about other players
Starting point is 01:35:55 and what they were learning because, like, he simplified things so much. It allowed us all to play so much faster. I always think that's a great sign of coaching. Yeah. And anything. And I don't care what it. is. Like even if you're learning TV, like I've learned TV going to NFL network and Fox Sports
Starting point is 01:36:10 and everything, even if you're learning all that stuff, like there's certain basic skills. But like, honestly, like once you get it, like you got it. Like there's nothing else to really learn. You just perfect it. Yeah. I think, I feel like what you just said about Grimm was great. Dude, we would go into individual drills and it was like just a fuck around session always. He would put these bags up. He's like, are you going to sprint here after warmups? You're going to run past the bags. And then he would get bored. with it and we get a guy like Jack Conklin who was just like great football player but like had zero hand eye coordination and he'd be like Jack how many bags you think he could leap over at
Starting point is 01:36:41 one time and we just like get five bags out and Jack would go and look like he just tore every limb and his leg and we all laugh like he was he was the best he was a coach that like when you got to game day like you wanted to play for the boys like he was so much about these five guys your family and like that was like your dad and you're like I just want to make this guy proud I feel like the the most important coach in every single football team's the offense line coach and either they get that and they get that fraternity and that's how they play that's how the eagles are with stoutland like and they're like that with andy heck in kansas city too but i feel like that's that's the core of the team right the quarterback walks out the offensive line you probably are in a pretty
Starting point is 01:37:18 good position yeah like you see josh allen's with his guys all the time go to training camp up there he's hanging with the boys like he walks on the field with dion dalkins they're cutting it up with each other i feel like i just look for certain things like that you yeah you see the dynamic between the two coaches. But a lot of times nowadays, because of the stories you're saying about, you have two practices, the scrimmage,
Starting point is 01:37:39 then conditioning, all these things, a lot of these younger coaches look at these 80s and 90s and be like, we got to get back to toughness. And when no one really has to go through it anymore, did you have coaches that were just hard-asses
Starting point is 01:37:49 the whole time? Or did you have those coaches that were like, hey, let's have a couple beers after this thing. Well, we always did that. Yeah, we were responsible. Yeah, the beers in the walk room. Bears at ping pong were staple every training camp.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Yeah. We always had that. In fact, you know, it was almost like, okay let's not drink any water during practice so that our first beer we get a great buzz and then by the second one by the third beer the meetings are going to just fly through the meetings living living the dream out there. We're just going to laugh through
Starting point is 01:38:14 every single time they bitch at us about this technique. Science really fucks a whole lot of things up. Once you start learning that, water's good for you. Yeah, don't eat the cheese out. Let's not drink any water during two days. Just say, let's dehydrosals. First cold beer gives us a nice buzz. He's talking about camping about survival and then it pivots too, but we try not to drink water so the beer hit a little bit harder
Starting point is 01:38:32 when we got done. That is awesome. Were the coaches in on that with you guys? What were the fraternities like on the team? Well, you know, Ernie Startner was, you know, defense line coach. So, you know, Ernie came out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was a defense line coach.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Just, you know, an old, like, he invented the head slap. So, like, he couldn't have even played racquetball. He couldn't grip the racket. It was just like dangling in his hand. But, like, you might fly out, hit you when you played him, you know. You know, like, it was just that even the coaches were like part of the old school you know they're they're drinking habits and party habits i love that man there's something about coaches getting together and just getting after it with all the boys that's another thing russ did too
Starting point is 01:39:11 after games well he came from the shed yeah so they had the shed in with the redskins back then practice ended they went to the shed yeah that's where they went you know no quarterbacks were to liaisman was allowed in there you know the boys went back there and they cut it up it would uh with minoski and jim tom sula yeah in training camp when they were the coordinator and the d-line coach there after practice they'd always be back in the equipment room there'd be a couple guys they'd invite in the bag here have a beer yeah just sit down and talk Tom Sula you had a deal
Starting point is 01:39:38 he'd have I mean he's full he's full of all time unbuttoned he's got the chain going on he talks about investing he's like you want to invest just take money out of your pockets fold it and you just doubled your money yeah he's so funny bro you got to work with Tom Sula what happened was I they had this league you talk about like how I got to
Starting point is 01:39:56 where I'm out I did I went to work at Fox but before I started doing games at Fox, I did NFL Europe. So Tom Sulla was coaching in London. So I'm over in London, and I'm with Bill Moss and a couple guys, right, and we're like, where can we go to watch film? Like, let's find, at least have an idea what we're talking
Starting point is 01:40:13 about here. So they said, hey, they got a coach over for the London Monarchs, like named Tom Sula. He's watching film all the time. I'm like, okay, I'm going to go find him. So I didn't know the guy. So I go, take the train down to South London, I forget the name of the place they're at. But anyways, I hear this. I hear this spit.
Starting point is 01:40:33 I'm like, who the fuck is? So it's Tom Sulla's spitting. And he's got the projector and he's going. So I'm like, hey, coach, I'm Brian Balding and blah, blah, it's Bill Moss. So we go over and we sit down, we start watching film with Tom Sula. And like, you know, the guy is just a guy's guy, you know, everything. You know, and he's, I fell in love with that guy. And we stayed best friends.
Starting point is 01:40:51 He's one of the best, man. I only got to play with him for a year. That's that for a year. But you can just tell the way that they would have the defense work is the linebackers and the D-Line would watch film together. Yeah. So that way if a D-Line, fucked over somebody on the second level or a linebacker shot a gap without you know and that wasn't
Starting point is 01:41:07 their responsibility he would have like say the d lineman hey turn around a comp and just let him know fuck you because that's what you're doing to him on this play oh yeah he's just a he's he's about it but he just loved teaching he loved teach he was a teacher yeah he's a great teacher man and uh and all he wanted to do is see you succeed yeah that's what i loved about him he would uh say his vacation so he's like hey you ever want to do like the private yacht stuff he's like you go find one of these billionaires down and the keys are Florida. And whenever they go take a trip overseas, you just ask if you can ride along with them
Starting point is 01:41:38 because they go out and then they'll go into Italy or Europe or whatever and they'll do their family vacation. Then you'll have the boat. You'll sit there and pay them 10 grand so you can take the boat out with the kids. He's like, that's how you fucking do vacations. He's like, you know, they're spending so much more money to go over there. Jeff Bezos. Yeah, you don't have to be Jeff Bezos.
Starting point is 01:41:54 You tag along, say, can we borrow the boat for 10 grand? It's just going to stay dock the whole time. We'll take it out while you guys go have fun. He's a legend, bro. He was a love Tom too. He sounds like it, dude. He sounds like an awesome guy's guy. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 01:42:05 He is. You also, when you were coming out, you were a good basketball player. Yeah, man. I was hoop. Like, did you play basketball growing up? Third grade, I was at the YMCA, man. I was a bit of a shooter. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:17 All right. Third grade, I was one of the only kids putting down threes. But no, no, no, really wasn't a basketball player. I grew up in New York, man, and, you know, I played basketball every day. Even in, like, when, even for conditioning for football, all I did was play basketball. I played basketball. off-season, you know, until my knees weren't any good. But like, one year in Dallas, we had, we had an all-season basketball team. We both play all these charity games all over the country,
Starting point is 01:42:38 really. We played 48 games one year. I made more money playing basketball than I did play in football. No shit. Just in the off-season going around. Just all-season. Because they paid us, like, one time we played the Harlem Globetrotters, Harlem Globetrotters in Iowa. And we played two games. We played at seven, and we played at nine. So we're playing in Fort Dodge, Iowa, right? Right. And the gym is packed, right? So it's like 5,000 people. So we finish the game. The Globetrotters come back.
Starting point is 01:43:08 It's all cash. So they're literally paying, like they're counting all the money, right? And so here's your 600. Here's your 600. We all got our money. We go out and we played a second game, another 600. So we made 1,200. Then we went out and partied our asses off in Fort Dodge, Iowa, until they turned the lights off wherever we were.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Then we went to the next game. It was great. How did you get put in a position to play against the Globetrotters? Balladier a legend. but like Drew, Drew Pearson was our wide receiver. And he knew, he knew somebody on the Global Trotters. Just, you know, however he made it work, he may it happen. But listen to this.
Starting point is 01:43:40 So this is wild. You're talking about the Redskins. So we put, so Drew put together this tour. Like you're talking about the bus here. We had a barnstorming tour, the Cowboys and Redskins, right? So we rented a yellow school bus. We picked up 12 Redskins at the DFW Airport and 12 Cowboys, and we bused through the state of Texas.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Amarillo, Lubbock, San Antonio, Austin, Dals. We played six games in seven nights. Just barnstorming. And we're like, we're enemies. But we're like, we're selling out every single arena. Like they had this guy, Curtis Jordan, played a Texas Tech. So we had a bar in Lubbock. So we all went to his bar after the game.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Like it was so much fun back then, man. You know, that's fucking wild. It's wild. Why is that not talked about more? I don't know. But then we returned the favor and we went to D.C. We played in Hampton. We played before a whatever the bullet game was, whatever they were called back then.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Capital, the Capitals, whatever. And we played in front of like a live NBA audience. And we were the pregame warm-up for him. And after we finished our game, everybody left the arena. Like they didn't even care about the Washington basketball team. No shit. So we were in, Ron Springs was from this little town of Williamsburg, Virginia. He lived on a dirt road.
Starting point is 01:44:58 and literally we all came over to his house boss hog his dad was cooking chitlins we're in his house dirt road and literally there's a 50 kids running through the house there's 22 basketball players there and they're cooking for us barbecuing we just sat there drinking beers
Starting point is 01:45:16 and telling stories like in that house that was freaking awesome who these guy goes by boss hog well Ron Springs's dad was the boss hog yeah was the boss he was like he was like Ron was always like the comedian of our team in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:45:29 But his dad was funnier. You know, he was like red-skel. You know, he was like, you know, like, just a classic comedian, you know, and just old school, man. And your teams, like, your teams never care that you guys are traveling the, traveling the country playing basketball. Well, you're talking about doing intertubes and one guy tears his knee and the team gets
Starting point is 01:45:45 their ass rip. It's like, that happens now. Like, your contract is void. You're done playing. All the, there's so much more red tape. Yeah. So much more red tape. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:53 No, but that was like, you know, that was, it was, we just had so much fun back then, you know, because we did everything. thing as a team, you know? And so like I, like, I remember when I was a rookie on the basketball team, they, because I was like the rookie and everything, and I, and I love basketball, I would get an extra $150 just to go to find a washing machine or whatever, clean, and just get all the uniforms cleaned, get them ready for the next day. So I'd make an extra. So you're the equipment guy? I was equipment guy, man. So you were out there grinding for a little extra cash? He's a hustler. Yeah, I was hustling, man. Did you ever, did you ever, was basketball ever over football for you?
Starting point is 01:46:26 Were you ever like man basketball? I went to, I kind of a screwed up college thing. I went to Naval Academy because my dad went there. And I was going to play basketball at the Naval Academy. It just didn't work out. So I ended up going to Duke. And they were like the best team in the country. But we would play against all the varsity guys.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Like I was a good player. I think I could have played like decent Division II level. Yeah. You know, like that level. But that's what we all played basketball back then, like in the off season. You're a basketball player or you're a racquetball player, you know, in the offseason. Were you a scholarship guy in front of you? football in college? No, I walked on. Well, I went to, I got, the academy thing didn't work out,
Starting point is 01:47:02 so I went to a junior college for a year, and then I played basketball in junior college, and I was recruited to play football and basketball, and I just went up to Duke going on. And in your mind, you're just like, if I'm going to have a future, it's probably going to be more so on football than basketball, because it seems like you love basketball. I love basketball, but I remember this, I didn't think, you know, about playing pro football when I was young, but I remember I had this, I went to this junior college, and this guy, Kurt Sown was a year older than me, and ended up making the Jets. He went to Fordham after Nassau Community College and he ended up
Starting point is 01:47:30 making the NFL for like eight years. But he told me early on, he said, you know, if you play high school football, you might as well try to play college football. If you play college football, might as well try to play pro football. So I always had that in my head like, oh, it's just like that. Just go to the next level. Just might as well go do something. Might as well do what one percent of the the world can do.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Why not just give it a go? All the kids out there, listen, if you're playing high school, you might as well play college and then might as well play NFL. I remember this one time. So Dallas treated everybody first class. They were unbelievable organization. Like they fly me. I'm from New York.
Starting point is 01:48:02 We're going to training camp at Thousand Oaks, California. So they fly you on Pan Am first class from JFK. Pan Am. Pan Am. Pan Am first class, JFK to L.A.X. Right? So I'm in first class. I eat the whole time.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Like I'm, every single like Sunday dessert, I'm taking that. I'll take that lunch. Every time the stewardess walks by, you're like, bam, let me get one of that. I'm like, plus 10 pounds by the time I get off the plane. I get off to plane and they can't find my luggage. So I'm like, fuck that. I'm wearing the same thing every day.
Starting point is 01:48:34 If I get my luggage, I don't care. I'm not unpacking it. I wore the same clothes for the whole six weeks. Like I said, fuck it. I don't care about my luggage. Grungy. Yeah. I just said, you know what, there's an omen.
Starting point is 01:48:45 I'm not changing my clothes or I'm packing my bags until they kick me out of here. How long did it take your teammates to realize, oh, this man hasn't changed in two weeks? Pretty soon. Yeah. They had a thing for me, you know, but, you know, yeah, it was fun. Like, it was just, you know, like, then, like, I went against Randy, like, you talk about Russ Grimm. So, Russ Grimm was left guard for the Redskins.
Starting point is 01:49:05 So he went against Randy White. Like, that was just a Pro Bowl battle every single time they played each other. But, you know, like, I went against Randy White in a card drill every day. And so- Explan the car drill. Yeah, what is the car drill? So, card drill is, like, literally, you're a dummy squad, and you're running 16 zone plays right at the starting defensive line. And then the second team defense line comes in, and you run 16 drills right off the card.
Starting point is 01:49:28 So inside zone, you know, power, you're running these basic plays right at the defense line. So like, you know, Randy White was like, he was like the best defensive tackle football. And he's just kicked my ass. So I'm like, one of these days I'm going to beat this fucker. Like, I'm just going to beat him. So I remember the first time I actually stoned him one-on-one pass blocking. And I was like, I was so happy. I was like, if my pro football career ends today, I blocked Ray.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Randy White. I went out and drank a bottle tequila that night. Like I thought that was the highlight of my football career right there. I blocked Randy White one-on-one. God damn. I was getting better. Is that Randy White? I mean, the crop top. Half man, half monster.
Starting point is 01:50:12 So you would have to, on these car drills where you're doing the dummy card. You'd have to do 32 plays in a row? Yeah, 32 plays in a row. It's so funny the way you talk. We were such pussies, dude. We're fucking pussies. dude, we're fucking pussies. Because essentially what you're talking about is nine on seven. You're talking about nine on seven.
Starting point is 01:50:28 We would have six plays in a row. Yeah. Six. I heard you just whisper ten. It was six. It definitely was always in the single digits. And by that six play, you're like, God damn. Like, get me out of here.
Starting point is 01:50:39 This is so brutal. Like waiting for a two to come in someone to give you a little bit of a spell for a second. We're talking about 36 plays in a row. It's crazy. We didn't know any better. We just didn't know any better. You know, but you still are tired. These bastards are talking about not drinking water so they can get buzz in the first.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah. so we have a nice little buzz. We had all the tricks. Were you guys running like at the NFL that time? Were you guys running like bull in the ring? We didn't do bull in a ring. We didn't do that. But we had,
Starting point is 01:51:04 we had Oklahoma drills forever. Like, you know, you line up and, you know, it was just you and an offense line and back and on, you know, like we ran those things like right out of each other for like for a 20-minute drill. Every drill was full, like it was full contact. And concussions weren't really a thing back then either. It was, you know, I didn't even know what a concussion was.
Starting point is 01:51:25 There's a training camp. But, like, you know, remember those days you'd come back to the huddle and you'd see double. You'd see two of everything. Like, I thought that might be a concussion, but I wasn't sure. Because then eventually it would clear up, you know, and it would all of a sudden like, oh, I can see Taylor right here. Yeah. I wouldn't see two of you. That is true.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Pop enough Tylenol before practice. I took all those smelling salts all the time. How great are the smelling salts? I love smelling salts. I love smelling. I'm surprised you don't have them right here. We should. There's actually, you can get the jars where you open them up, take a nice little huff before.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Yeah. Because that stuff is all time. We always did that when we were doing like our, you know, trying to get our maxes and lifting and everything. Oh, yeah. We always did the smelling salt. Guys slapping you on the back and stuff like that. Couldn't stand the slap on the back.
Starting point is 01:52:04 The slap on the back. We did the slap on the top. Yeah, of course you did. Yeah, some, you see a couple guys, probably stabbing the gut with a knife. I'm like, all right, now do it. Time to do it. Sounds like, it sounds like injuries just didn't exist in your time. Is that?
Starting point is 01:52:15 That's funny, you know, you know, like you tore your L. I tore mine. I mean, I know the injuries happened, but it didn't seem. like it happened. We didn't lose, like, we went years in Dallas without losing a player to a major injury. You know, and then one year in Indiana, and look at the way they're built too. Like, I don't know who this guy is on the left, but gee, that's, that's one of the underarmor bottles you see when you walk out of Dick's sporting goods. Yeah. We didn't have a lot of fat guys back then. So, that's hard change. How much are you guys weighing on the offensive
Starting point is 01:52:42 line back? You know, honestly, like, we didn't, our heaviest guy back then was 270, back in 82. That's, that's the move right there. You should have a weight, weight limits on, on, on football. I remember, Nate. Newton came to us. Remember Nate Newton? Oh, yeah. No, I do not know who Nate Newton is. So Nate Thick. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Nate Newton came. He came from Florida. He came from the USFL. So he was the first real big guy that I saw, like for the Cowboys. He was weighing somewhere around, there's Nate. He was weighing somewhere around 3.20. He was the big bomb, right? He went to Florida A&M. And he was a great
Starting point is 01:53:15 football player. He was a foundation of those Cowboys Super Bowl teams. He was a left gardener. But he came to us like in 85 or 86. and I remember they put a weight clause in Nate's contract that he couldn't wait more than $3.50. But Nate loved to eat. You know, he had an issue. So he had this scale at home. And he weighed himself all off-season until, you know, the all-season began.
Starting point is 01:53:44 So he comes back, he's $3.95. And he's like, he can't understand why. 3-95. But his scale only went up to $3.50. He didn't know. It only, it topped out at $3.50. No, sure.
Starting point is 01:53:56 He thought he was good. So he thought he was good more and he thought to himself, oh, I guess I'm doing great metabolism. He was killing it right now. That is, he's in a golf cart. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Yeah, Nick. James Cruz and that golf cart is in hell. He had dancing feet, man. His brother, Tim Newton was a nose tackle in this league. So what, what happened when he came back at $3.95? You know, he just put the sweatsuit on,
Starting point is 01:54:17 you know, just, you know. Yeah, just drop a quick 45. Get a quick 45 off your brother. Jimmy Johnson came in like the next year, a couple years later, and Jimmy loved him. So, you know, Nate, they had two and a, they had Stepnowski was picked, Eric Williams. Like, they just put the best line together in football. Talk to me about Jimmy Johnson, his coaching style. I wasn't here with Jimmy, but I worked with Jimmy for a long time.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Like Jimmy's thing was, like, he wasn't an X and O guy. He had guys that did that, you know, but his thing was the roster. He wanted to build the roster. His thing was a draft. Like, he manipulated the draft. He, you know, he sold her. So he traded Hershal Walker for six picks to Minnesota. He got Emmett Smith.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Like, his thing was a draft. And like, in a matter of, he came in 89, they're one in 15. You know, and three years later, they win the Super Bowl with the best team maybe ever assembled. Because the free agency started in 1993. So they started losing players. Kevin Gogh left. Like all these Steve Berline left, like all these backup players left become starters and other team.
Starting point is 01:55:20 But he built a two deep roster. in three years. And so his thing was, yeah, that was, you know, how do we, how do we get better? How do we get younger, faster, bigger, Russell Maryland's, you know, like he just put the team together. Who were all your head coaches? I had Tom Landry. Then I had Ron Meyer.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Ron Meyer was, he was a coach in Indianapolis when I went to Indy. I remember he had this killer Porsche. So I'm in training camp. I meet this chick, right? And I'm one who impress her, right? You know, I'm a young guy. I'm trying. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:52 So I told the coach, I look, I got a pickup. Can I trade you the pickup for the Porsche? I got on really, like, impress this chick. So he flipped me the keys to the Porsche, took the girl out. Like, that was the kind of guy he was. He was a team player. He was good. And then I had Rich's good.
Starting point is 01:56:09 He was good. I had this guy in Philadelphia that was pretty good, man. What was it like playing for Tom Landry? He was brutal, man. It was just brutal. Like me, like the, the Monday meetings, no matter what, I remember we beat Seattle one time,
Starting point is 01:56:24 35 to 3 in Seattle's. We had a long flight back. And he would go through the entire game, offense, defense special teams. He was the only one that coached. Like no assistant coaches, he did every single play. And so you're just waiting for the play
Starting point is 01:56:39 where you're too high, you got blown off the ball, you missed a block, and like you're just going to get excoriated. You know that feeling? Oh, yeah. So you win 35 to 3, you feel like you lost the game.
Starting point is 01:56:49 And I mean, everybody's sweating. Like everybody was like waiting for their moment when they, when they, you know, you got highlighted by doing something wrong. Yeah. But he was a good coach though, man. He could coach, he could coach everybody. He was, he was ahead of the game in so many different ways. I don't want to put a crystal ball, make you do a crystal ball. What do you think changed between when you played and now seeing all the injuries that are not taking place?
Starting point is 01:57:12 Because when I hear you talking about two days, guys getting overly exhausted, not drinking water so the beer hits a little bit harder, guys getting after it every single day, playing basketball. in the offseason, never giving yourself a break. But you say you go through years of guys, not seeing losing guys to injuries. And now you look at this where it's like every year, teams are losing more and more. Yeah, you're losing more and more guys. Honestly, I think, I think, two things.
Starting point is 01:57:34 One, the players are so much bigger, stronger, faster. Yeah. Okay. Like, Butkus was the linebacker in the 60s. He was the face of the league. He ran a five flat 40. Like he couldn't, you know, not that he couldn't play today, but, you know, you couldn't play in today's game
Starting point is 01:57:49 if you're running a 5 flat 40 a playing linebacker right will so i think bigger stronger faster and then i think like all that contact we did i think it just basically you know you build calices to the body and you didn't you just didn't have the injuries that you get that's exactly the answer i thought you'd give but do you believe that well i think i think there's a level of the calisines of the body that i agree with i think when you go into camp uh even the soft-ass camps that we have compared to yours we would that first week you have a headache the entire time aches and bruises everything hurts more like you feel every cut by the 10th day of camp your headaches gone now you don't have the bruises you had yeah your conditioning is a whole lot better the helmet doesn't feel weird
Starting point is 01:58:28 on your head so there is a level of callous to that but breaking the body in over and over and over again like a guy like yourself would play 12 years like I don't know how that sustainability you're able to have it but with their generation too like there wasn't all the money and all the contracting like I feel like the players kind of have a little bit more or you know they like to think so more leverage like going in all that so when you do get bumps and and bruises, they're playing through it compared to us. You understand that, hey, you're not going to get paid for being honorable and going out there on the field.
Starting point is 01:58:56 So you kind of sit out a game or two so that way you're healthy in case you have to go into free agency. They don't know. You know, they're just, it's all team. Yeah, no film is going back. I think players overtrained today, though. I think they all go to these camps. They all go down to these different places.
Starting point is 01:59:10 And they just, I think they're overtrained. But the argument to that you're overtraining is when you explain your offseason, getting in a bus going to pick up your rival teams players. and then traveling through Texas. Yeah, but you're also, you're playing basketball game. I'm sure you're wearing some sort of all-star converses. Yeah. Ripping around on a hardwood floor.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I mean, that's a lot of moving around. That's a lot of condition. It's a lot of training. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not like, I don't know, these guys are, I mean, maybe I'm like talking at both sides of my mouth on it. But, you know, we didn't have an offseason until the beginning of April. So you had like two or three months after the season ended to go do whatever you had to do.
Starting point is 01:59:47 These guys are like going to these camps. now like that have been done playing now they're they're already training yeah they're down to dallas guys might take two weeks off but then they're training yeah they're training down to these different places you do the o line the masterminds that's with the lane right yeah lane lane started with duke manning weather down in dallas like they did do a good job down there yeah but what's kind of cool was they've been trying to get us down there for the last four years oh i know it's in july it's in july it's not just that it's like our schedule i know russ grim he's camp in Pennsylvania every like April.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Okay. Trying to get us there too. It just has always a schedule thing. Yeah, because Lane reaches out and it's truly always just the time. Yeah, because you'd love to. We love Lane. I mean, but you know what's pretty cool though? It's like, you know, you see Kansas City going for the three
Starting point is 02:00:27 people. So like it's always like the second week in July, right? But there's Tray Smith and there's Creed Humphrey. They're there every single year in the front row. And you know, like if we have Steve Hutchinson there, whoever we might have. You know, Willie Rove, like some Hall of Famers always there. Mark Schlareth. Like we have good guys
Starting point is 02:00:43 that are coming. These guys are asking them questions, picking their brains, like taking their notes. Then they're in breakout sessions. We got these college kids coming now with this NIL money. Yeah. Like the entire Alabama offensive line came this year. And they're all great kids. Like really, like they're real students of the game.
Starting point is 02:00:59 But like they're teaching those kids, you know, what they've learned. Yeah. And picking their brains. Like they could easily be on a boat having a good time. It's two weeks before training camp. But those guys are there. What, the Alabama offensive line, we went to Alabama. Tyler Booker.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Yeah, Tyler. Dude, he was there. What a guy. Great kid. People don't understand. This kid's going to be a great pro. He's going to be Trey Smith. You think so?
Starting point is 02:01:24 I think he's going to be Trey. I think he's going to be just like that. Have you started breaking down the films of this incoming class for this draft? Well, I broke the, I remember I was there last year and they were like, I go, so they all came up and introduced themselves. So it was before we were starting one day. So I said, what's your best game? Which game should I pull out?
Starting point is 02:01:41 Georgia, which game? So we pulled out the Georgia game and we're just going through all five guys. guys, you know, and it's just kind of breaking it down and good things, the bad things, things that I would do a little different. They all kind of trained their hands with this guy who's this martial artist. So they were just, honestly, they were just good students and great kids. Like they listened, you know, but they were into it though. They were into the whole, like, what do we need to do at this level? Like, how do you, like, what's different about the running game versus the run game we're doing? So they're just, you know, what are we going to
Starting point is 02:02:10 see from a front that we don't see at Georgia, that kind of thing. What do you think the difference between college run game and NFL run game. Like, what was the kind of information you were giving? Well, I mean, a lot of these run, like if you're in a Big 12, you don't play with a tight end. Yeah. You know, the tight end's a slot receiver.
Starting point is 02:02:23 There's no two-back offense, you know, in college football. So all those kind of things. Like, you're not running, you don't see a lot of counter tray, you know, I don't know power. You don't see a lot of that in the college game. So, you know, so that's different. It's like spread, you just spread you to run it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:39 That's kind of what it is. In fact, if you're the left tackle in college right now, like you rarely ever, combo block anybody. Like you might have a five technique on you, but a lot of plays, you'll never have anybody outside you to even just go block the edge unless it's third down. Yeah, I see a lot of the defenses in the Big 12 especially where they kind of bring a three three. They bring the end and he's head up on the tackle and I'm thinking of myself. I wish that was always the case for me. Yeah. That's the easiest block in the world as a head-up guy. You have leverage in every single
Starting point is 02:03:09 direction. Totally. And so you just protect your inside and you're like you just work into the outside. Right. But, you know, they play this 3-3 double cloud just to stop the spread. And so honestly, like, you don't get any edge rushers. Like, it's all these tackles that come out of the Big 12. Like, they got to learn how to block, you know, guys coming off the edge right now. With online masterminds, it has grown in a big way. And Lane being one of the guys to start it, where do you see it going in the next few years?
Starting point is 02:03:33 How does it evolve and continue to grow with the game? Well, I think the cool thing is it's kind of like just been taken over by the players. So, like, a couple years ago, Aaron Cromer was out. He's the coach in Buffalo. Like he came. So Aaron was there. So we're getting some coaches there that breakout sessions. But honestly, like I said, like, so if there's a stunt now that's really popular in the NFL
Starting point is 02:03:55 where that end, wide end is coming and just cracking on that guard and just taking the guard out. Yeah. Right? And now the tackle's just got a short loop. Sets it up. So we saw one yesterday, right? So I texted Duke Banneweather down there. I'm like, we've got to work in this stunt because you're going to see it more and more.
Starting point is 02:04:11 And unless you're on the same level, that guard and tackle on the same level, that guard's going to get picked. Right. So I think, like I saw it yesterday come in and Trey Smith saw it, and he ate it up. But he had gotten beat on it earlier in the game. So the second time he didn't get beat. But so like little things that you're seeing that are giving guys problems, like we're kind of trying to get ahead of it. On this stunt, this is a past stunt? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:35 And is it a tilted nine? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's all in the tackle, right? on an on an et well if he comes flat like the tackle might now
Starting point is 02:04:43 get his hands on him he's coming just to wipe out the guard right and now that tackle the defensive tackle is now coming on yeah looping across
Starting point is 02:04:50 but a lot of times see the DN's just trying to get to that back hip if the guard doesn't see him he's actually gonna be the guy that comes free he could come free too yeah
Starting point is 02:04:56 don't give yourself up right like you can you don't just want to run into you can come into the pitch and stay a lot of hip yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:05:02 yep is the DTackle is a three technique or a two eye what would what alignment is he in on this E.N. Well, he's probably in a two. He's probably head up so that way the guard can't see.
Starting point is 02:05:14 He can't see him. So he's just being frozen. He's just setting him up. So you have to look it up as a guard as well. Yep. But like this look right here by San Francisco. Like this is a popular look in the NFL right now. Somebody's coming back to bounce it up.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Like, you know, it might be, I can't see who that is right there if that's bosa or whatever. But somebody's coming back inside. Or they're going to run a twist stunt with the two tackles here to bounce it up. So as soon as you, like Fred Warner usually goes and ties. up the guard, he'll walk over the guard to tie him up and freeze him. And so now the twist comes free. It's such a shitty position to be in as a tackle because your biggest fear always is that speed. No, no, not in the stunt, just like rush, third and whatever. They're sliding away from
Starting point is 02:05:54 you. You're thinking, I want to make sure I take away the speed rush or whatever this guy's fastball is. And if he goes at a straight angle, you have to gain ground going back in the line of scrimm, get yourself on the same level as that guard. Yep. Hey, bring up that last photo, Sherm. because like Vraib, he'll have things to where it's like even, I think that's Bosa on the center. Yeah. To where he'll tie up the center for a second and both the tackle in the end will come down to pick the center and the guard. And then Bosa, the guy over the center will wrap all the way around going outside.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Yeah. Tough stuff, man. The game involves so much. We talked about it a little bit in the locker room, but just that blitz that Spags put out on that fourth and five or whatever it was when Josh Allen threw that ball. It's just like, game of chess. Yeah, the corner. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:42 And not even just off the edge, he had the end to rush up the field, knowing they're on the man's side and brought him right into the B gap. McDuffie had a hell of a game too. Like times where Josh was trying it out there and it's just like, yo, Duffy is locking these dudes up on the outside.
Starting point is 02:06:55 But he can lock you, he can lock up the slot. He can lock up your number one. He can blitz. Like, he's just a total, complete player. You love film. You love being around the guys. You love coaching so much.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Like, why aren't you a coach? I did coach. I coach one year. Did you not enjoy it? That's all I'm saying. No, I enjoyed it. I sit there and listen to you. You love the game.
Starting point is 02:07:15 We brought this at 9 o'clock at night because all these guys had full-time jobs. So, you know, I like going out and eating pizza and drinking beers with the guys at the end until 2 in the morning. Yeah. That's what I enjoyed doing. We had this guy. We had this guy, our left tackle was his former Italian basketball player, Numa Galerini. Numa Galerini. Oh, so Italian.
Starting point is 02:07:36 And, uh, Numa, Numa was a lot. Like this. He, he, he cared. So, he kept his cigarettes in his socks. So he liked to have a cigarette breaks, you know, in between, even during the game, he'd have a cigarette break. So I like that aspect of coaching. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:53 So you don't necessarily, you're not, like, interested in putting in the 12-hour days. I'm not interested in my style of doing, you know, literally 15 hours a day. Like, I enjoy 15 hours a day in the film room because I always feel, see, like I'm learning something new. And I like giving guys some credit that probably aren't being talked about. you know, just from an effort standpoint or technique, whatever it is. So I like looking at it and just seeing what happens. Oh, yeah, we are.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Yeah, that's, I remember we played a championship game in Catania, Sicily. I'll never forget this. So Catania's, you've got to go even further south to the other, all the way down there. So Catania's right where that white and red part in the south on the very bottom is. So we land in the airport. We drive through choking traffic for two and a half hours. to get to a restaurant to have a pregame meal, only to drive two and a half hours back to that choking traffic
Starting point is 02:08:46 to get to the stadium, which was five minutes from the airport. And they had to delay the start of the game because it took too long. So I said, well, why do we do that? And they said, well, the players love this, you know, Shirazca, they had this Italian restaurant that they loved, this pizzeria. So they had to have the right food.
Starting point is 02:09:05 So then we go back. So my right tackle is Pepe. Pepe's a banker, right? So at half time, at half time, Taylor, I bench Pepey because he's stinking the place up. Yeah. So I bench him at half time. He starts crying.
Starting point is 02:09:21 He starts crying, right? Like he's never been benched before. But I'm like, I need a better right tackle. My quarterback's getting killed. And they said to me, they go, Pepe always plays bad in Catania because he eats too much. But he'll be fine. The second half.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Pepey always plays bad and containie. Peppy, the banker. God. I still have a bank account. So did you? I still have a bank account from playing this. Did you put him back on the field when they said he'll come alive? Yeah, that was all you needed to hear.
Starting point is 02:09:56 He eats too much. Oh, he's got to run a little bit off. Coach Pepeby plays bad and continues. He's crying in the court. Just three Italians walking up. Pepey always play bad. All the guys came up to me like, hey, listen, you can't do this to Pepey. He always plays bad.
Starting point is 02:10:09 He'll be fine in the second half. How did you get the gig of being an Italian coach? So there's a John Gresham novel called Playing for Pizza. So it's a real story about this, well, it's a fictional player, about this American player that can't get a job, a quarterback anymore in the NFL. The only place he can get a job is in Italy, playing for the Parma Panthers. So my friend reads the book. The Parma Panthers.
Starting point is 02:10:34 The Parma Panthers, which is a real team. So anyway, so I, so my friend Doug Cosby played in the NFL for a long time with teammates of Dallas. He was coaching. He was kind of getting burnt out on it. He's like, Baldy, if I get this job coaching in Italy, can you come and be my line coach? I'm like, yeah, if I get away from the NFL network, I'll come over there. So he gets the job. So I go over there and I coach his line.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Coach his line over there. We go over there right after Super Bowl. And we, you know, we practiced. We had this season, I don't know, 10 games season. and then we played a couple of like teams from you know like Norway or played a team from like Scandinavia or whatever so you know we played a couple's charity games in between yeah that's that is wild taking a quick break from the episode to shout out kevin's natural foods if you want a delicious protein pack meal on the table in five minutes kevin's natural foods heat and serve
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Starting point is 02:12:17 So you were talking to it earlier, talking about pointing out the effort and everything else. That's where the baldy breakdowns come. Did you know it was going to be as popular as it is? No, I didn't. Well, what happened was, my buddy at Tamfell Networks is, this guy, Daniel Jeremiah,
Starting point is 02:12:32 So we used to do this show. Love Daniel. DJ's great. So we used to do this show called The Aftermath on Mondays at NFL Network in Los Angeles. So I always do, back then I was doing a college game on Saturday, an NFL game on national radio on Sunday. And then I would fly to L.A. And I'd get to L.A. And I wanted to watch as much films as I could on these games before we went to air.
Starting point is 02:12:54 So I'd pull some. So anyways, me and DJ lived south of L.A. And he would leave early to beat the traffic. So we would get in there like four in a morning. So we watched tape from like four to eight. So one day DJ just like, we like, we see Taylor Luan with some double team. And, you know, King Henry goes 100 yards. So we put that, I'm like, let me play with that play.
Starting point is 02:13:14 So we'd film it off our iPhones or whatever. And I kind of posted some of these things just for fun. And it, you know, a little bit of interest in traction. But then the league suspended me for saying something one time. And it kind of pissed me off. And I was like, fuck it. Like, you know, I'm just going to go in the film room. I'm suspended.
Starting point is 02:13:31 I can't. And I started doing breakdowns. I said something about Zique, you know, on some radio show. Like maybe they, she was a rookie year. Like maybe they should introduce Zique to the NFC and maybe like rough them up a little bit. It looks a little too pretty for them. And whatever I said. They took it out of context.
Starting point is 02:13:47 So I just started doing breakdowns 2016. I had a flip phone at that time. My friend said, you should get an iPhone and put it up there and do these videos. So I got an iPhone. So we went over the Apple store, got yourself an iPhone? My buddy took me to the Apple store I didn't even know where it was That's awesome
Starting point is 02:14:05 Traded in the flip phone He got a real iPhone But he started getting traction right away Like I knew the players were watching I didn't know the fans were going to go so crazy Yeah we watched Yeah you talked about in the locker room dude Yeah you get highlighted on a couple of those things
Starting point is 02:14:19 Because it was mostly offensive linemen for a little bit right And then he started jumping in the D line And kind of all over the place I wanted to do The Commodore Max Crosby Yeah a Commodore Yeah A nickname my game
Starting point is 02:14:30 I started giving the guys the nicknames they loved it man yeah i did max's a podcast out in las Vegas last year the rush came like best friends i hope he stayed with the raiders but i think he's just sick to lose him man seems like it it seems like he kind of wants out of there huh i mean all you've seen is just you know well you don't know exactly but you know like if you're just losing all the time like you want to be a raider you know what it stands for you want to be that guy that turns things around but like they just keep rebuilding and yeah there's no continuity in the prime of his career like you're going to spend the prime of your career just on another coach, another GM and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Well, now you got... Like, if Tom Brady's going to turn around because there's reports coming out saying Tom's running the show over there. He's the one... Well, he got SpyTech. Did you know SpyTech? What is SpyTech? Well, he was a Michigan guy.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Okay. He played with Tom at Michigan. Spy Tech. Yeah. He was a Michigan guy. He wasn't much of... He was there with Tom. Then he went to Tampa.
Starting point is 02:15:22 He went to Philadelphia, went to Tampa with Jason Light. He's been there. He's been part of that group. And so he gets a GM job. Brady knows him. So you feel like, okay, you're blow. blow out Telesco. You bring in SpyTech.
Starting point is 02:15:33 You blow out Antonio Pierce. I don't know if, you know, if Pete is Tom's guy or not, but it seems like he's got a lot to do with it. Pete, man. That's an awesome. That's an awesome addition. Pete Carroll getting back in the game.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Is that a confirmed thing? That's official. Yeah, I mean, you got Pete Carroll. I'm just thinking, like, I did post like Pete Carroll was the guy, but I feel like we're kind of talking. Like, we don't know who's running the ship with the Raiders. But I feel like Pete Carroll.
Starting point is 02:16:00 Monster. Monster. It could be somebody Max stays, you know, in place for it. Yeah, the energy that the guy has, too, 2007, I went to an all-store camp at USC. Had no offers at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:09 And I got to meet Pete Carroll. This is like when USC was USC. And I'm like, hey, Coach Carroll, nice to meet you. You're trying to be as a formal as possible. Like, please God just look at me and give me an opportunity. And he like slaps my hand out of the way and gives me like this big hug. And I was like, bro, this fucking guy.
Starting point is 02:16:25 His energy. He's like the first guy to introduce the basketball hoop into the team meeting room. Like, hey, we're shooting for this. Competition Wednesday. We had the Matthews brothers on. They're talking about guys taking their shirts off, getting loud. One guy gets so juiced up, he takes all of his clothes off. Like, that's a kind of shit that you want Pete Carroll to bring into the Raiders locker room,
Starting point is 02:16:42 because he is kind of like the perfect coach for that. I think he's do a good job. I mean, these guys all kind of get rejuvenated a year out. You know, I mean, Pete's got a nice house in North Shore, Hawaii. I'm sure, you know, that. Sure, he was having a good time. I'm sure it was good for a couple weeks. But, you know, that guy, I mean, he'll put together their good staff.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Mike's Lari will be his offensive line coach guaranteed. Like he'll have a good staff and you know the guy I don't know how many cups of coffee drinks a day like he's never sits down He's always up you know I think he knows what he's doing And him and Harbaugh
Starting point is 02:17:14 Back after again When Harbaugh was at Stanford And Pete was at USC No doubt Chips was at Oregon Yeah that was that Pack 12 was awesome That is yeah That's gonna be so awesome
Starting point is 02:17:26 I saw an Andy Reid Sean Payton Yeah Pete Carol I saw a clip of Pete Carroll and Harball after a game, I think Stanford beat the brakes off of USC. And they shook hands and he's like, you're all right?
Starting point is 02:17:39 He's like, yeah, I'm good, you? And then I kind of have this like weird, like posturing thing on their way. And it's just going to be awesome to say the battles that take place with them. Well, it's going to be like, it's just personal stuff, man. Yeah. That's the stuff you want, though. You want those storylines. But would you rather have a first year head coach,
Starting point is 02:17:54 you have no freaking idea if that guy's going to become something great? Like look at Dan Quinn a second time around. Like, he's always going to have his things that guys are going to be tuned in, plugged in, they're going to be on time, all the discipline. But, like, his second time around, these guys, Pete right here, like, this is his third time. Like, he knows what to do.
Starting point is 02:18:13 He knows how to put the team together. When he stands up in front of the room, he's got everybody's attention. Right, right. He's got authority. No doubt. I can't wait to see. Who are your favorite guys to break down
Starting point is 02:18:22 across the league and your body breakdowns? Well, you know, I love Max. You know, Max, because he plays every snap. Nobody plays harder. like that's that. But, like, Trey Smith in Kansas City,
Starting point is 02:18:32 I love Trey Smith. Lane is just such a technician. It's almost boring. You know, because he's always in the right place. Nobody gets a better start. You know, like the guy's just,
Starting point is 02:18:42 and I'm friends with Lane. Like, he's got this bar in his backyard. Yeah. I go over and work out in his barns, 10 minutes from NFL films. So, you know, but you can always meet people over there.
Starting point is 02:18:51 There's UFC fighters over there, guys around the league in the offseason. But so, you know, Lane's good. But, you know, honestly, like, Malata is a beast.
Starting point is 02:18:59 for a guy that never played the game in his life and was an Australian rugby player that is such a cool story it's crazy you know so you know the linemen are fun but you know like Buda Baker like Buda Baker in Arizona it's a nickname the Cobra like the guy just plays
Starting point is 02:19:15 the game in a different speed. Did you break did you do a baldy breakdown on Buda Baker with Taylor? With Taylor what was that way you were at 20? That was a 20th 20th what did he do? It was a Chandler Jones game.
Starting point is 02:19:24 That was a Chandler Jones game. He put me on my ass in the game. Did you see him coming? No, Buddha. Stared at him in the eyes. Pre-snaps lined up over me. And it was a two-minute drill, and I just flipped my hips.
Starting point is 02:19:34 And he just putting down. Because he was picking you, right? No, he wasn't picking anything. He was straight up. He just bowled you. Just bulled me. I had a safety, bull me to the ground. It was the most demoralizing game.
Starting point is 02:19:44 It was the most demoralizing game. And of that game, that's probably the most demoralizing point. Hey, I, I, I was saying, too, the video. Pull it up. This would be a... Also, too, when you said Buda Baker, I kind of like, I could see facial expressions.
Starting point is 02:19:57 I look over at J. Jeep was like, I'm thinking to myself. Hey, you know it would be a good promo, Baldi to promo this episode is to do a baldy breakdown on Buda Baker.
Starting point is 02:20:05 Yeah, that'd be hilarious. That'd be so much. Provo safety this year, man, he was awesome. But he's one of those guys. He's great.
Starting point is 02:20:12 He's a good ball player. Good ball player. But the thing is, it's like, you know, he's talking about injuries. He's one of those guys that plays this game at a ridiculous speed.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Yeah. Like, nobody should hit that hard at his size. He's 185 pounds. This is it. Yeah, this is it right here. It's hard to this terror. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:28 It was not my intention. It's all right. This happens. We need to watch it again. But that guy plays again. He never gets hurt, man. And he put one hand on me. He put one hand on me.
Starting point is 02:20:37 Just a stand. Look at my hips. You're going down and I'm like, no, fuck. That's a nightmare. It's already, I've already given up two sacks in this game, three TFLs. Like, it's, that's a mental warfare right there. That's a, you want to see a guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Tell people know that you do not sleep those nights. You do not. I mean, you remember, you came over the house. We just sat in silence in my ma'am. He just sat next to him while he just watched the film. I was just trying to be there for him, just like as a support animal, like, hey, don't pet the dog. And I'll just sat next to him like while he watched film that entire time. And I'll just take deep breaths and go, look at this, man.
Starting point is 02:21:10 All you have too is like, nowhere to go but up. You say all those things. But as an offense line, like, you can have 70 great plays. If you have one play like that, that's all you think about. Yeah, the problem. People don't really understand. The problem is, is there are 70 plays in that game. 65 of them looked like that.
Starting point is 02:21:28 That game was, that was my first game off my first ACL. And I've told the story a bunch, but like I really felt in my head, like, driving to the stadium, I'm like, this is it, man. This is when you're back on the map. This is when Baldy breakdowns is going to cover probably all the fucking plays. That's how I was feeling. We're on the phone. It's like, hey, get the fight started. First play the game.
Starting point is 02:21:48 Todd Downing is like, hey, would night be, night meetings? First play the game, 19 Wanda. We're coming behind you, La Wuan. We'll come back to the NFL. Like, I'm like in my head like, yo, yeah, yeah. It's about to go down. First play. We run 19 Wanda.
Starting point is 02:22:01 I see Chandler Jones. He sees me. I could tell by his stance, he's going inside. Yeah. I take a step. He goes inside. I'm thinking, we've got this motherfucker about to have an explosive first play. Four yard TFL.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Just looked over there. I'm like, that's so crazy. I saw him, but I couldn't turn. That was wild. Second series, third down. Yeah. If anything, I'm great at getting out of my stance. I'm great at getting to the mesh point.
Starting point is 02:22:25 Yeah. So they can't beat me on a speed rush. Chandler Jones, elongated. And I'm looking at, I'm like, stop. He sat. It was just, dude, play after play. That's funny.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Like, you can remember in your head, it's never going to go away. It's never going to go away. It's never going to go away. And it's like one of the beautiful things that I love doing this show, but as long as I do this show, it's going to come up. It's going to come back. Multiple times a year.
Starting point is 02:22:47 It's always going to be something. And it's just, it actually hurts just as much right now. Yeah. But at least you can laugh about it now. Yeah, yeah. A lot of pain behind the laugh. Devondre Sweat was a good guy to break down this year. Devondre sweat.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Yeah, he was a pain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about Trent Williams? Oh, yeah, well, Trent was, yeah. Like, you know, the thing is, like, Trent has that backside cutoff block. Yeah. Where he just freaking slaps you by the back of the head,
Starting point is 02:23:11 and he puts you down. Incredible. Like, I told, I said this when Christian McCaffrey went to San Francisco, I go, the play might be going to the right, but it's going to end up behind Trent. Yeah. I go, every play ends up behind Trent.
Starting point is 02:23:22 Like, it still does. Like, I don't know what it's, like, if he's got another year, I'm sure he does, but like, he can still play. Yeah. Like, because he's still, like, he's still slapping people down. His hands are still amazing. And he's savvy.
Starting point is 02:23:36 He's still, like, elite athleticism. He might be not as athletic as he was before. But he had the movement, the mobility is incredible. The movement's crazy. Tell the story about when you're at the Redskins. And he was talking to Brian O' Rack Po. Oh, yeah. He was, we were sitting there at the cafeteria.
Starting point is 02:23:50 We were, like, having lunch, like, after practice. And Rack had the web thing where he had, like, jam fingers or something. So he's just kind of, like, working. rehab. Yeah. Logan Paulson and myself are just sitting there talking like, hey, you know, we just got to survive in advance, got to survive in advance for guys like us. And Trent comes and sits down.
Starting point is 02:24:05 And I forget what Logan and Rack were talking about. But Trent, ultimately, he like kind of chuckles, not in like a disrespectful way. And he's like, honestly, it's like, for me, I think to myself, like, when am I going to walk in these doors and somebody's going to challenge me a practice? And we sit there like, fuck. He just has such a different, just such a different gene. pool and confidence. That's like he knew he was the best player on the field.
Starting point is 02:24:31 It was all times. Logan and Paulson and I were sitting there talking like just fucking battling against certain guys just every day. Like fuck, when are you going to, you got to find an edge here? What kind of extra work are you going to get in trenches? Like I'm wondering when I'm going to walk in these doors. And Brian, Rackpo is on the team. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:45 And he's like, I'm wondering when I'm going to walk in these doors and somebody's going to challenge me. So we're all laughing, busting racks balls. He has the exact same warmup still to this day every game. Like he takes a lap around the field. He's got his warm-up jacket on. And then he does this mental thing where he's just getting off on his on the getoff.
Starting point is 02:25:04 And he's just left foot back. You know, he's always got that foot that left foot digging in the ground. And he just does shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, turn and run. And you watch him do it. And I've put it on film before pregame and six million people watching and going, how's the guy that fucking big still move that fast?
Starting point is 02:25:21 Right. They say when the guys will go to the YMCA and play basketball, like you think he plays a big man like he plays on the perimeter he can like windmill dunk he shoots threes he has handles it's it's he's an incredible athlete yeah he it's it's it's it's he boxes does he yeah yeah he can really do it all yeah i mean you see it too like any like scrum you've ever seen like the one with richard sherman where he's like hey what you're gonna do i'm a punch you in your face do it then and he fucking does it yeah or though and that cleveland browns a couple years ago when they were uh six and o going going to cleveland there's a big
Starting point is 02:25:55 scrum over by the Cleveland sideline. He just takes a D.B. and throws him. He's the enforcer. He's a bouncer. Yeah. Just always, he's just that guy. He's the enforcer.
Starting point is 02:26:04 Yeah. Everybody wants to talk shit. He will do something about it. They just finished you. I had a question, but I forgot. How was the competitive dynamic between you and your brothers? You 12 years, you're the other brother 12, the other one eight? Clearly, you knew you worked harder in your brother.
Starting point is 02:26:18 If he got drives and you're like, this motherfucker. This lazy piece of shit, I believe was the exact term you used. It's still competitive. man. It's just, it still is. It just ever really goes away. It could be, it could be something, like, I think my brother, you know, he was a year younger than me. Like, everything I did, he tried to do. Like, but I love basketball. He didn't really like basketball. He could dunk real easy. He'd just like bending rims, just hanging up there and just bending rims and stuff. But like, honestly, like, I remember I went to Duke and went to Wake Forest and we were beating them one day, late in the,
Starting point is 02:26:51 late in the year, and we're winning. And they said, hey, you want to go play defense games? your brother. I'm like, fuck yeah, I want to go play defense. So I went to play defense that is crazy. You go both ways in a D1 football game? Yeah, did that. And then my little brother was a nose tackle in Buffalo. And I was playing with basically a chipped ankle. So I had a cast on my ankle. And he was a backup nose tackle for Buffalo for a while. And I'm playing center that year. And like, here he is on my nose. And he beats me on his sack. Right. I couldn't, like, I couldn't redirect or whatever. And there's Bruce Smith laughing and Cornelius Bennett. They're all laughing at me. I'm like, this mother. And then somebody took a picture of it.
Starting point is 02:27:25 me, him beat me. And like, that picture went everywhere. I'm like, my little fucking brother beat me, man. Like, that still burns me up, man. God. Yeah. That's awesome. Who are the, uh, who were some of the best players you ever played with?
Starting point is 02:27:37 And their work ethic also matched their talent level. Well, Reggie. Reggie. But Reggie didn't have the work that, you know, Reggie, so I go to Philadelphia, right? And, and I was like, I came from Dallas. So every practice was always full speed for me. So I've come to Philly and I'm going up. against Reggie. And I'm going full speed at Reggie. And like by the second day, we're in training
Starting point is 02:27:59 camp, he pulls me aside. He had this deep voice. He's like, listen, kid. He goes, here's the rule. I go, what's that? He goes, if my chin strap is buckled, you can hit me. And if it's not buckled, don't you dare hit me. And that was it. Like, he didn't practice no chin strap, you know. Like, he's just out there just being Reggie. Like, just humping people. Like, that was the most talented guy that I ever played with. It's helping people. Just humping guys up and down the field, man. 340 pound offense tackles just getting thrown off the screen. What do you think about the argument when people talk about Reggie White and Aaron Donald? Well, Aaron, like, Aaron had the same,
Starting point is 02:28:32 Aaron had the mentality, like, literally. You talk to, you know, Whitworth and these guys that were with the Rams. Like, he's, like, one day we were up at, we were in Napa, and they were scrimging the Raiders. So I was like, watching Pratchett's Warren Sapp. So Sapp is, like, watching Aaron Donald. And he was, like, trying to fall in love with Aaron, but he was Sapp. So he's like, he's trying to find something.
Starting point is 02:28:51 So anyways, he's like, watched him. literally Aaron Donald started every fight in practice that day. Put the right guard out for, put him out. And then finish the fight. And there's Sean McVeigh running from field to field and just wrapping his arms around Aaron Donald. Like making sure like anybody else could get hurt in his fight. But my, Aaron Donald's not getting hurt.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Like he's getting off the fight. He's getting off. Aaron was a beast. Like you talk about how he set the tempo in practice. You know, his walkthroughs were full speed. Yeah. You know, that kind of thing. Just like the Commodore.
Starting point is 02:29:21 It'd be like when Brave, remember. remember when that fight happened with Jeff Simmons? Yeah, yeah, versus Tampa. Like back him up. Yeah. No, Jeff, no. Yeah. That shit was so funny.
Starting point is 02:29:32 You think Jeff can end up with the Patriots? There was a little, people who are some question marks saying Jeff Simmons. People talk about Jeff. People also talk about A.J. Brown. Yeah. You saw Vraib talk about A.J. Yeah. Still has a close relationship with him.
Starting point is 02:29:45 I wonder if A.J. would do it. I hope rape crushes it, man. I think he does too. I'm also pumped about. I think he's going to. Yeah, I think he is. I also think I'm rooting for Aaron Glenn, too, like he played for the Jets. And even though he's going to be the head coach that everybody's like,
Starting point is 02:29:58 why would you want to go be a head coach for the Jets? But I hope I love that Aaron Glens with the Jets, a former team that he played for. I love that Vraves with the Patriots. I was kind of rooting for Deion Sanders to go to the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted Deon to get that job. That had been awesome. How do you think, what was his, what's his name?
Starting point is 02:30:15 Shoulder? No, no, no, no. The new head coach for the Cowboys. Shotnymer. How do you think he's going to do is the head coach for the Cowboys? Like a lot of people saying, like, I sound a very good roster, Will. It's not a very good roster. I mean, my brother played for his dad.
Starting point is 02:30:26 You know, Marty, Marty was a great, great coach. He wasn't great in the postseason, but he won a lot of games. Like, we'll see if he's more than just a coordinator. He's been a pretty good offense coordinator. But now he's got to be a head coach with a roster that's not very good. Yeah. You know, so, you know, they don't seem to know how to build the roster. I mean, Philadelphia and Washington just went right past them, you know,
Starting point is 02:30:47 with free agent signing, know how to spend the money, know how to run the salary cap. Like the Eagles always have money to get everybody got extended this year. Yeah. They found money for Sequin. They got the quarterback taken care of last year. They got A.J. Devonte, everybody's gotten taken care of.
Starting point is 02:31:00 What do you think the issue is with the Cowboys? I think it starts at the top. Yeah. You know, like I respect Jerry Jones, a great deal. I like Jerry. He runs a first class organization. But, you know, they should have paid DAC before they played Zeke. You know, pay the take care of the quarterback.
Starting point is 02:31:14 That screwed him up. You know, and so now, you know, the offense line kind of fell apart. We'll see if this Tyler Geithen can, you know, come on. But they're going to lose Zach Martin probably, and they're going to have to keep rebuilding that. Yeah. You know, they're just not that talented. Like, can they take care of Micah?
Starting point is 02:31:32 You know, they got to take care of Micah. He's their best player. Yeah. I don't know if they have enough money to do it. Zach Martin was such a stud. Still is. Still is. Still is a great ball player, yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:40 The greatest stat I ever heard on Zach was he had seven first team all pros and five holding calls in his first nine years. Five total holding calls. That's incredible. In nine years. And he played left tackle at Notre Dame. And left tackle at Notre Dame. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:56 He is incredible. He was a great player, man. Yeah. You go out there to watch a practice. You just watch him. We went out in Oxnard, the training camp itself. You just watch him.
Starting point is 02:32:06 He didn't lose one single drill. You know, he's just like every drill. One-on-ones, team drill, whatever. You didn't get you. You played across the entire offensive line. Like, what's your favorite position on the O line to watch and break down? Like, honestly, I think you're only as good as your center.
Starting point is 02:32:22 Like, you know, there's three great centers that came out this year. This Graham Barton in Tampa is really a good player. Like, they went from last and rushing to fourth in rushing. They got the center position figured out. Like, I think it starts inside. But there's so many tackles that you have to watch, you know, and to see them just, you know, from Trent to Lane to, you know, you go through, you know, Penae Sewell, you know, just see his power.
Starting point is 02:32:44 You know, it's fun watching those guys just move people. Yeah. It sucks with a left tackle. No, but listen to this, Taylor. So you're left tackle, right? Yes, sir. Listen to the transition that the Eagles had at left tackle. They went from Trey Thomas to Jason Peters to Jordan Malada.
Starting point is 02:33:01 Like, there's a 20-year stretch of like literally as good of left tackles as there is in football. Yeah. Like they, but that was a priority for them. Now they, you know, and they traded for Jason Peters before he was ever Jason Peters. You know, and they spent a high pick on. Wouldn't he like a quarterback or a tight guy? end. He was a tight end. So was Lane Johnson.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Yeah, Lane was a quarterback. He came, I think he went to Oklahoma's a quarterback, started a tight end, and then ended up being a tackle. Yeah. He still ran the fastest 40 of any tackle ever at Docomba. Yeah. Still the fastest 40-year. Is that true or not true? That is true. No.
Starting point is 02:33:38 No. Taryn Armstead ran the fastest. He did? Yeah, he ran up 4-6-5 or something like that. But he was at 285. Lane Johnson, he ran the fastest 40 of any tackle over. Over 300 pounds. Okay. It's like 474.
Starting point is 02:33:50 And what was yours? 485. I know. You're scooting though, bro. They're moving. Moving. Moving. That's moving.
Starting point is 02:33:57 You're making every backside cutoff when you can do that. Yeah. Able to do that. Yep. Yeah, lane man. I mean, also franchises being able to have left tackles for that many years. Yep. That's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 02:34:10 I think the Titans had that with. Bruce Matthews? No, Bruce Matthews is more of a guard. I'm thinking who was a guy before? Bhop for 10. And then Michael Ruse, right after that. And then who is the other one? Probably the best one of the three, yeah?
Starting point is 02:34:31 We'll get the name later. That's about 30 years of the Titans. It's like the Packers with the quarterbacks. You got Farber and Rogers now Jordan. Bart Star. Yeah. Bart Star. Before we get him, I know we're running low on time.
Starting point is 02:34:44 We need to do a twist of question and a pet peeve bitch that's with you. Who do you got winning the Super Bowl? I've got the Eagles. I said from the very, like, I'm not going to change this pick just because the chiefs are here, and they took care of business against Buffalo. But I thought when the postseason started, I said the Eagles would go four and no in the postseason.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Like, I'm not changing. I thought they were the best team in the trenches. And their young players all, like, had this meteoric rise, so they don't even look like rookies. You don't think it's any bit of that Philly bias. No, there's some bias there. But I thought, like, I, you know, the quarterback got healthy,
Starting point is 02:35:18 the running back is a star, the line is healthy. Like, healthy, like, both teams will be healthy. Great defense. Like, I like, I like the Eagles' chances right here. More, they can beat them more different ways than Kansas City can. All right, I love it.
Starting point is 02:35:31 All right, let's do it. Eagles. All right. This got, I said on the locker room, this got Eagles all over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for that reason, I'll be going Chiefs. So you're just fading, are you fading me?
Starting point is 02:35:43 I'm fading you. You can't be talked out of the Chiefs. I think there's a hell of an argument for the Eagles But then you look at Andy Reid He also wants to see Spadge Which I don't hate that I understand You want you see the three And I'm not a I'm not a
Starting point is 02:35:54 I'm not like a oh I love the Chiefs I just think this is a very cool situation To be like yo let's get let's get blessed Real quick and then we can move on from the Chiefs We've seen such a run with Patrick Mahomes I mean if they win the Super Bowl Like the argument's almost there with him And Tom Brady right now
Starting point is 02:36:09 Which is nuts But yeah I mean seven years seven AFC championships Yeah He has three Super Bowls This will be his fourth Super Bowl Third in a row This will be his fifth
Starting point is 02:36:19 He's lost on Super Bowl But his fourth Super Bowl Win if he gets the win Like yeah I love the Super Bowl's Tom Brady I love the dialogue of the goat I think I think a lot of hate comes to the Chiefs Because the Chiefs are so good
Starting point is 02:36:31 And we just used to it Because of the officiating Because of the official stuff Which there is some stuff there There is some stuff there absolutely I think there's a lot less stuff In this last game And there were in the past
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Starting point is 02:37:13 Boys in the back, what is our twisted question? Our twisted question this week comes from actually a fan, Gage Holin. Gage. Shut up Gage. If you could experience any song, movie, sports event, TV show for the first time again, what would it be and why? What's a lot of stuff?
Starting point is 02:37:33 Song, TV show, movie. I'll take Jaws. This greatest movie of all time. I'll take Jaws. You don't experience that movie again for the first time? Yeah. Yeah, because I... Let's do all three.
Starting point is 02:37:46 Let's do movie, song, sporting event. Okay. So, TV show? Movie. I just saw Seinfeld perform the other day. Like, he had me laughing for an hour and 15 minutes. I just do Seinfeld. Okay.
Starting point is 02:38:00 There's no bad episodes. Show about nothing. Show about nothing. Yeah. Yep. I'll say movie, if I could relive the first experience, it would be Friday night lights. We watched the high school football team. Went together.
Starting point is 02:38:13 opening night when I watched it it was it's that's the one um TV show Game of Thrones okay I love Game of Thrones Did you ever watch it? I never did I never watched Thrones that you get the experience it
Starting point is 02:38:25 for the first time Yeah Maybe it's something for you to do What about song? Song uh Either Freak a leak by Pidi Pablo
Starting point is 02:38:38 or Lose yourself by Eminem Oh that's a one In my CD Walkman, I ran that song into the ground. And that's when, you know, I wasn't savvy enough to get on the internet and look at the lyrics, but you're rewinding and trying to catch all the lyrics so that way you knew the entire song. Do you know how you know when you have great street cred? When your name gets mentioned in Eminem song, like mine.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Like when Eminem dropped me in, when he dropped me in legacy, like I knew I had it made at that point. Wow. Awesome. Yes. Just a bunch of Brian Baldwin. Yes. when you get that done. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:39:15 I'll say, you know, I'll take King Williams, Jr. And a country boy can survive. Like, that's a great song. Great song. Phenomenal song. You know that song? Yeah. Country boy can't survive.
Starting point is 02:39:26 Oh, yep. Okay, said the name of the title. Got it. He's got it locked in. I hit the elevation. Just sitting the title goes, oh, no, that song. Movie for me would be wedding crashes.
Starting point is 02:39:38 Seeing Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn for the first time the dynamic duo, the opening scene of them mediating the divorce. Yeah. It changed my personality for life. Watching Vince Vaugh. That generation, that run is like all you quoted in school and everything else. And it was this,
Starting point is 02:39:55 it was like, I don't know if it was a start middle or whatever it was, but that early 2000s comedy was maybe the greatest span of movies. I felt like that movie didn't even have a script. That was just two, those two guys just being stupid together. That whole thing is incredible. The scene when they're walking down the stairs,
Starting point is 02:40:11 or you're mad because a hot older woman showed your tits grow up like the whole thing peter pan count chocula yeah yeah first play a big game with hope of hill mary phenomenal movie uh song for me anthem part two take off by the album uh by this band bliquid a2 album is take off your pants and jacket is the first song on that album and just uh starts with the drums bein dine hit the guitar in there dude emo taylor hate your parents taylor that song was setting me up it was right around the time right around the time what a question also came out. What was the other one?
Starting point is 02:40:44 TV show? Dude, mine's not going to be a big one, but it's true to me and it's Scrubs. Yeah. I think something about JD. It's true to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:53 Brown Bear, the whole thing. Anytime I had relationship issues. For whatever reason, that show came on. And I just felt good about it. My boy, my boy Logan loves Scrubs.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Does he? Yeah. It's one of the favorites. It's a phenomenal show. Scrubs and Lost. Never seen Lost, but Scrubs to me is probably my favorite show
Starting point is 02:41:10 of all time. It's unbelievable. I love it. Should we get into a... What about a sporting event? Oh, sporting event. I don't know. I haven't been to a whole lot of sporting events.
Starting point is 02:41:20 Not necessarily like you've been to or maybe just... The greatest sporting event I've ever been to is a Grand Prix of Monaco. That thing... You've lived a life. No, no, it's unbelievable. Like, you know, you talk about living a life. Like, they had a... Like, Ferrari rented out this club med boat.
Starting point is 02:41:37 Okay? And I was friends with these guys. that I grew up with that ended up becoming at NASCAR making merchandise. They made a lot of merchandise for NASCAR. So Formula One was going to fly them to Monaco and so that they could kind of pitch their merchandise to people at Formula One.
Starting point is 02:41:54 So they asked me if I wanted to come along. I'm like, yeah, I want to come along. So like we helicoptered from this club med boat to like the race itself and to the time trials. And then we were in a casino every night, just winning French francs. Like that four days. I remember one time we were on this boat
Starting point is 02:42:10 And I go, the only thing we need is like some Prague models just to come on and parade around this boat, your fucking models showed up and just started to pray around the boat. I just manifested it. That event's unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, there's no beating that. Yeah, there's no beating that. There's no beating that.
Starting point is 02:42:28 My sporting event probably hasn't happened yet, but it's going to be watching the Nebraska Cornhuskers winning national title. Okay, all right. You're a big Matt Rule fan? Oh, yeah. I love Matt Rule. You know him well? Oh, no, really?
Starting point is 02:42:40 He was at Temple when I was in Philly. So I used to speak to his team every year. But I became good friends with Matt. He's awesome, man. Filed him, you know, down to Baylor. So I did some things with him down to Baylor when he went there. And forget about the Carolina. I think he's going to turn around in Nebraska.
Starting point is 02:42:57 Yeah. Got the quarterback, I think. Yeah. Rola. I love it. Yeah, Will loves Matt Ruhl. He was actually quoted as saying is, if Nebraska corners just go six and six this year, I'll be calling for his head.
Starting point is 02:43:06 That was a direct quote of Will Compton in August. Was it August, JP? JP knows what I'm talking about. JP knows what I'm saying. We went seven and six this year. Pinschristy Bowl champions. Should have been in Ohio State. Yes, I agree, man.
Starting point is 02:43:19 Yeah, we had them on the ropes. Not everybody can be to Ohio State, man. Only two teams did this year. Only two teams did it. Reliving, I mean, I have to, I could go national championship, but that 13 to 10 win over Ohio State, watching Michigan win that game.
Starting point is 02:43:33 You're talking about this year? Yeah. Reliving, we watching, you're watching a game. You're watching a game. You will, you can't laugh about something. You were like, my event hasn't happened yet. I tell you,
Starting point is 02:43:44 I was watching Nebraska Winnius' championship. That was winked Martin Dill's greatest day. Amazing. Amazing. Did he leave? No. I heard he was talking about leaving.
Starting point is 02:43:51 Oh, I mean, I can't believe it's not in the NFL. Ohio State lost their D.C. Wouldn't you say last year when you were at the game and fucking with Big F? Yeah, that was awesome.
Starting point is 02:44:02 But like, something about Michigan being so down this year and not having a throwing game and being 21 and, won a 20 and a half point underdogs in Columbus. And I was watching that game just being a fan. Yeah, yeah. Thinking like, oh, and it gets to halftime, like,
Starting point is 02:44:17 okay, they'll run away with it is now. Now's when they'll run away with it. And for it to happen the way they did. And then the blender that Ohio State goes into after. Like, it's fresh to my line. I know, they won the natty. That was awesome. That was great.
Starting point is 02:44:30 We'll be back. If you could relive a game you played in, which one would it be? Probably like my rookie, you know, like these rookies, coming to the league and they go to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls, and everybody says it's not that easy. It doesn't happen like that.
Starting point is 02:44:44 My rookie year, we lost the NFC championship game in Washington at RFK to the Redskins. Like, if I could relive that and win that game and go to the Super Bowl that year, I would want to read that. I love that. I like your spin. Because, you know, what happens is if you lose, like, that song, Hale to the Redskins.
Starting point is 02:45:00 It's one of those songs that gets, like, it still wakes me up in some nightmare. I mean, I can't get that song. Just wake up in a cold sweat. They would score touchdown, freaking hail to the redskins. You're like, fuck, do I have to,
Starting point is 02:45:12 like I'm reliving that thing in my head something. Not off and I don't live in a past, but, you know. I don't live in the past, wakes me up at night. Yeah. Yeah, if you're reliving a game that you could win,
Starting point is 02:45:23 I'm going back 2019 to the FC championship, two quarters away from beating the Chiefs go to the Super Bowl. That's the game. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the only time we went to the playoffs, really where I was playing was the Packers. Miss.
Starting point is 02:45:37 But reliving a month. like reliving a game. With a chance to write it. Yeah, with a chance to write it would be, yeah, Big Ten Championship. Yeah, 2012. I'm so glad you said that because I'm thinking that's got to be the answer.
Starting point is 02:45:50 Yeah, because, yeah, you win. Because that year we had, we had seven second half comebacks. What were your reigns going to that game? Oh, man, I don't remember. Top 15. Because we lost that. We were 10 and two.
Starting point is 02:46:02 We lost that one. Then we go out. No, that wasn't South Carolina. That's when we lost to George in the Capitol. Do you know the story behind how five, Fox Sports even got into college football. So David Hill, who was the president of, he basically ran Fox Sports, started Fox Sports.
Starting point is 02:46:17 He's in Australian, but he started Fox Sports. His wife's sister went to Nebraska, and they went to the spring game at Nebraska. And it was big red. It was complete, the bowl was, the whole thing was sold out. And that day, he said, we're getting into college football. And Fox got the, the college football playoffs and championships and all that stuff
Starting point is 02:46:41 and eventually they became big players in the sport. So Fox Sports started all because of that experience at Nebraska Spring game. At a spring game. At a single out, it's sold out spring game. You know we love that, guys. We did not need to hear that story.
Starting point is 02:46:54 You know we love that. We love that. We'll double it down. So you're saying, just to be clear for everybody listening, Fox wants, want to make sure you're on hearing you correctly. Yeah. All right, pet peeve.
Starting point is 02:47:09 So pet peeve, like, there's a lot of things to be happy about and have gratitude about and be humble about. Pet peeve is your opportunity to bitching a plan about one thing. It'd be super small, it'd be super big, whatever it is to you. I'll start. You got it. Oh. What is this?
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Starting point is 02:47:46 This is a whole body deal Defend against all your odor zones from your pits to your privates to your feet And it's a long lasting 72 hour odor protection Fine dove men whole body deal at Walmart today Go ahead start it off okay my pet peeve is I was on a flight I took a lot of flights this weekend I had to go to Fort Lauderdale and to Boston, but I had to connect. And my flight from Fort Lauderdale,
Starting point is 02:48:12 which is the mecca, the beacon for the... I fly out of... I live in Fort Lauderdale. Okay, so you probably have pre-boarding for Southwest. Yeah, I got clear all the whole thing. No, no, no. But you're one of those... Are you one of the guys that go in before they put the general boarding on in Southwest?
Starting point is 02:48:25 You get to pre-board? Not for Southwest, but American, yeah. Okay. Southwest, I mean, people on this flight going to Baltimore as I was connecting, there's 40 people on this flight. Right. 20 of those people were pre-boarding. Right.
Starting point is 02:48:38 And one guy was actually in a corner stretching before, and then as they're calling for the pre-boards, this is not a joke, walks over and gets in his wheelchair and his wheeled down. Wheel down the tarmac into the thing. Too many people that can walk on wheelchairs. This guy's stretching. He's stretching.
Starting point is 02:48:53 He's elongating the muscles. He's sitting calisthenics in the theater. That is insane. But TGI Friday. I get it. I get it. You're a little overweight. You got a broken leg.
Starting point is 02:49:01 You got a little something, whatever. Like you need a pre-board. Go ahead and do it. I'm with you on that one. But you're fucking. touching your toes? I haven't seen that one. But I've seen plenty of people
Starting point is 02:49:09 wheelchairs that can walk just fine. Yeah. That are getting pretty boreded. And also getting off that flight. There was this hefty black guy getting in. And he's like, there's a guy away from the wheelchair. And the guys like getting in a wheelchair situation. You can see that this black guy, he's getting him.
Starting point is 02:49:21 He's getting frustrated. There's way too many wheelchairs. He just goes, I can walk up. It's fine. I'm thinking this motherfucker. You got to be kidding me. And that's all. That's on the same flight.
Starting point is 02:49:31 That's like the home's getting a, you know, a late hit call. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He figured it out. Him slowly jogging out of bounds and getting hit. So, yeah, my pet peeve is the, I guess it's the pre-board, man. People taking advantage of pre-board.
Starting point is 02:49:43 You got a pet peeve you're thinking about? Yeah, you know, I mean, I have a bunch of them, but one is just basic incompetence. Like this morning, okay? This morning, I call room service to see if they can deliver breakfast. Yeah. No answer. All right. You're in a hotel, though.
Starting point is 02:49:57 So, okay. So I walked downstairs and I talk to the lady in the restaurant. I go, hey, can I get some breakfast ordered and sent up to my room? room. I'm working up there. I don't want to take the time. I want her to get ready for the show. So they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, no problem. So I go upstairs, nothing, right? I don't hear a nobody knocks on my door. There's no breakfast being served. Forty-five minutes go by. I'm like, this local. So I walk downstairs and I see the lady. And I go, hey, is breakfast ready? She goes, oh, let me go get it. She goes in and she's in there for five minutes. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:50:25 what the fuck? So she comes out and she goes, oh, I forgot to give the slip to the chef. We don't have breakfast for it yet. So I'm like, well, what the fuck? So I go, I go, look, she goes, but I'll bring it up to your room. So she brings me up to breakfast a little bit later. Of course, she forgets the sausage, forgets the coffee. Like, she couldn't even deliver the breakfast. Like, basically. So incompetence on anything.
Starting point is 02:50:48 Like, basic incompetence. Yeah. Like, you got a job to do. I don't care what the job is. Like, have a little bit of confidence about doing the job. Have some pride. Yeah. Or pride.
Starting point is 02:50:58 I'm with you. That's a great pet peeve. Mine recently, it's, that was eating at me last night is Rue is in her. I want mom face. Oh, heartbreaking. We switch every night on who does bedtime. Yeah, and we switch every night on who does bedtime. And Roo for the life of her is just in a tantrum, can't breathe all of it because she wants
Starting point is 02:51:17 mama. And I'm just sitting there on the couch like this, not like, room. Mom is in the other room putting Scotty down. Like it's dad-ass turn to do bedtime. You realize you hurt dead-ass feelings when you just scream for mom because I love putting you down for bedtime. I want mama. I like, I have a video and she's just kicking her.
Starting point is 02:51:34 feet. And I just send it to Charo. And I'm like, yeah, I think we're going to have to switch. And I'm just in there rocking Scotty, like putting Scotty down and just like, it's bothering me. Yeah. It's bothering me. I'm just like, this little shit, dude. And then all of a sudden she comes running in just to apologize and say sorry to Dad, then I'm like, you know, I don't give it to her right away. And I'm like, why are you sorry? This little two-year-old. Yeah, a little two-year-old. Yeah. And she's just talking like,
Starting point is 02:52:02 I was frustrated and dad-da-do bedtime tomorrow night. I bet you'll see what happens tonight. Yeah, I know. We'll see what happens tonight. Yeah, I know. Well, right when I woke up this morning, I go up in a room, hey, Surrely and Bell, and she's like, I want Mama. And I'm like, Mama's downstairs.
Starting point is 02:52:17 You know, she's going to be up here in a little bit. And I'm like, you know, once we kind of get over, she's like, I want to lay in bed for three more minutes. I'm like, all right, so I kind of just sit on the chair and I'm like, you know, who gets to do bedtime tonight? She's like, Dad-Dah. I'm like, yeah, because Dad-Dadda loves to put you down for bedtime. and on and on but that is my pet peeve when your two-year-old and when your daughter is in when
Starting point is 02:52:38 your child your toddler is in the i want mom face yeah terrible two stage yeah it's tough it's tough and you do my mother-in-law she would always say oh you think it's terrible two is really terrible three's i pissed me off because i was like let me just get through this yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm like six months into year two and you always want to talk about the next year being worse that's terrible all right yeah we got to get you out of here it's 1125 right now. Hey, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's an honor. It's great time. Thanks for having me. Great conversation, great insight.
Starting point is 02:53:07 The stories you told were amazing. I appreciate that. Yeah. And it's just, again, it's an honor because I just remember being young, high school college and watching you and watching that pinky on TV. Just be like, man, what a bizarre pinky he's got there. And now having you sit on the bus for a podcast, it's incredible. You know what's funny though about like just this type of arrangement.
Starting point is 02:53:26 And podcasting in general is, you know, you start talking all of certain stories, like the stories never stop coming, but you have to get triggered. Something will trigger the next story. Yeah. So it could be anything. But I think we all like that. Yeah. We all have stories. But you can't just
Starting point is 02:53:41 like tell all the stories. Something has to get you into that moment. Yeah. That's what podcast is. I'm sure you got hours and hours of more stories. You know he does. I'll have to get you on again sometime, man. We'll do that. We'll hear about the Globe Charter's thing. And once you started talking about playing basketball in the off season. Yeah. And he's like, and then he just wants to drop in a dime, Monique Criscoe,
Starting point is 02:53:58 whatever the race. It's like, what the hell is going on? Monaco. Yeah, we'll have you back on, man. Monica. Thank you, Baldy. Thanks, guys. Big hugs, I like kisses.
Starting point is 02:54:07 Please subscribe. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 02:54:24 Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 02:54:39 Tired and sick. podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's just be. Let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:55:21 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of you. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come until he's like, you know, I love. love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.
Starting point is 02:55:46 So listen to Point Game on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast. And for Mental Health Awareness Month, we'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car and then my car got stolen. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. This is a month of deeply personal and honest. conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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