Bussin' With The Boys - Brian Baldinger Reacts To AFC & NFC Championships; Taylor Lewan BELIEVES in Chiefs 3-Peat vs Eagles

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Will Compton, Delanie Walker, and Taylor Lewan bring you episode 22 of The Locker Room with special guest, Brian Baldinger. In today’s episode, we review the NFC championship where the Philadelphia ...Eagles crushed the Washington Commanders 55-23. We also dive into the AFC championship where the Kansas City Chiefs squeezed their way into the big game against the Buffalo Bills 29-32. Finally, we dive into the final big game matchup of the season, the Kansas City Chiefs versus the Philadelphia Eagles. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Open 5:21 Commanders vs Eagles 20:46 Bills vs Chiefs 42:48 Chiefs vs Eagles 50:53 Big Game MVP ----- Get on the bus with NFL players Will Compton & Taylor Lewan! The Boys are letting you in on their hilarious, high-energy (and often heartfelt) conversations. Topics range from exclusive stories to active player perspectives to out-of-left-field hot takes on things you and your friends only discuss behind closed doors. Sometimes they chat with a guest, sometimes it's just the two of them, but it's always a good time when you're Bussin' With The Boys. And yes, this is the podcast where Mike Vrabel said he'd cut his piece off for a Super Bowl. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Spotify ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS FireBall: Grab your football buddy, buy a round, and reignite the rivalry flame. DRAFT KINGS: GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min. $5 bet. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. ----- #BussinWithTheBoys #BarstoolSports #BrianBaldingerFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:23 around and reignite that rivalry flame championship weekend boys boldly breakdowns welcome to the live thank you thank you very good to be here man good day to be here there is nothing better there's nothing better as a player on a Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon getting done with practice going on the Twitter seeing one of your brain really let me tell you something about 77 here let me tell you watch the leg drop anytime you would highlight every week If I ever got blessed with a baldy breakdown, I would sit there and go home, show my wife. You see him. Kind of him, right? You know what's funny about that, though? Kind to him. You know what that's interesting to me about that? What you just said is, like, you guys are getting all of that in your own film room. All the guys know, your teammates all know. Some fans might know, probably not, though. Nobody's really getting inside the game, right, to that level.
Starting point is 00:04:12 But you would think that just, you know, the organization behind you, Derek Henry going 99. behind you, you would think that would be enough. But sometimes you just need a little bit more verification. A little bit of a juke. It's the public, it's a public recognition. Because every player falls victims to go into that search bar, typing their name in the Twitter, and then just getting absolutely assaulted by either your fans or opponents' fans.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And as an offensive line, you sit there and it's like, the whole thing about office alignment is you want to be seen, not heard. And so the only time your name should really be brought up is when you mess up. So when there's a guy like you, like, yeah, you go in the film room. coaches can pack you on the ass a little bit depending on the type of coach you have say hey this is a great play right here and all the boys like yeah you know comp had a good game delaney he he played well but when a guy like you who's been around the game who has the following and stuff like that pulls it up there is like a level of like damn maybe i am really doing something like it's a great feeling it's the old it's that that old belief that you know all shit runs downhill right and it just rolls right into the offensive line lap like we got to i feel like sometimes you got to fight that also defense alignment too deline like it i feel like it all kind of goes into the trenches, good or bad. Usually it's bad.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah. Usually it is bad. And you give a lot of context with the player you're talking about too, where the coach ain't going to sit there and do that for you in front of all the kids. They've got to keep you home home. You know that? When you're doing two and three a day, you're going to have a coach just talking about. You know what's funny about that, well?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Look at the physicality here from Baldi. One day your name's going to be Baldi breakdowns. Guys, everybody watches this guy in the trenches. You know, it's funny about that, though, Will. The coaches come up to me. Like, I do games every Sunday for national radio. So I'll get some of the assistant. assistant coaches, defense line coaches,
Starting point is 00:05:50 hey, I want to let you know, like, the lineback coach from the Chiefs, because I give those guys so much credit, you know, because they're big, Leo Chanel, Drew Tranquil, Nick Bolton. And, like, they're like, they play three linebackers, like, more than any other team in this whole league.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Like, they can't get them off the field. And they're like, hey, just want to let you know that, you know, Leo really appreciates the things you say about him. Like, people just think he's just a big meathead out there, can't run. But, like, you kind of highlight some of the things he can do. Yeah. They want you to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:18 They want you to be the one. to vocalize the Kansas City Chief's defense because they're not going to have, they're not going to go out publicly. No, definitely not. Why would they? I mean, Kansas City's defense has been keeping them in games all year. All year. Two years in a row. 16 and 0 in one score games. That has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:06:32 with the defense. But everybody wants to talk about Pax from Homes. Right. So you need a crusader like yourself. There we go. To pave the way of the defense. I'll take it. Yeah. Is that the game we want to start with, Chiefs? I, dude, that game was the most interesting to me, so I kind of want to like, just let's get the NFC out of the way.
Starting point is 00:06:48 out of the way. Let's get it out of the way. People said the AFC games was Super Bowl already. That was everyone's talking. You could see Josh Allen. You could see Patrick Miles, the Chiefs, the Bills.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And everybody going to that game. The first Super Bowl of all time. Everybody going into that game is like the winner of this AFC championship is probably going to win the Super Bowl. Correct. And then you watch the NFC championship game. And if you don't know that the commanders,
Starting point is 00:07:11 they're last in all the statistic categories of defense. Being in the Russian category, it's like, yo, the Eagles might have a chance. Yeah. But then you have spags on the other side that you're like, yo, this guy's going to put up the perfect game plan. Oh, defense.
Starting point is 00:07:25 To eliminate the run game and have Hertz beat you with his arm. Yeah. So, yeah, let's go NFC championship first. All right. Obviously, commanders fell. Yeah, I mean, look, to me, they were playing with house money. Yeah. They were playing, like, they've made it far.
Starting point is 00:07:39 They exceeded expectations this year. You look at when they upset the Detroit Lions in Detroit, everybody's like, everybody's fired up for him. Oh, could they must. up some magic and beat the Eagles. But that game went when they gave up over 50 points, a 50 burger to Philly. It's kind of like, yeah, their luck kind of just ran out.
Starting point is 00:07:55 You would have appreciated seeing a Detroit Lions team a little bit more in the NFC championship because their overall better roster and a better outfit. It's like, you know, you're bummed. You're bummed that Washington couldn't pull off an upset. But at the end of the day, it's like they were already exceeding expectations. Like, yeah, it sucks. But they have so much optimism to look for me to.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I feel like, you know, when you get to each level, you go up in the playoffs. Now you're at the championship level. Before you were at the divisional level, right? Like, Detroit's defense got exposed big time, right? Now, it didn't help that the offense turned it over five times and they constantly got in field position and a touchdown. So you go up to the championship level
Starting point is 00:08:32 and you just realize the Eagles defense is just that good. You can look at all the stats that say they're good, but then you watch him play. Zach Bond doesn't miss a tackle. He is freaking. And not only doesn't miss a tackle, he trusts his instincts like just watching him as a second level player and watching him pull his trigger and not stop his feet going into the backfield to make plays.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Your confidence, your trust has to be at a different level. But what I want to ask you, Will, it's like, so Zach Bond's in New Orleans for four years. They can't really figure out how to play. They got DeMario Davis. They've got Warner. They got different guys. But he's just sitting there as like a reserve special teams guy. And for whatever reason, he'll say, let's give this guy a shot.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Like all these Wisconsin linebackers can flat out play, all of them. Right? And they all been trained the right way, trained in. side, outside. You go through the whole league. They're all good players. This kid from day one in Philly fix that position. It's unbelievable. He's pro baller. Yeah. He made the all pro. Yeah. I think he made all pro. Remember Chris Borland? Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Talk about playing inside outside. One year, one year. He had a hundred forty four tackles. I mean, he had head issues. I mean, nothing you can do about that when you got concussions constantly incurring. Yeah, there's no,
Starting point is 00:09:43 there's no doubt. But I'm saying what could have been. What he would have been a Her big, T.J. Watt, Leschanal. You just go through all these guys. Yeah, yeah. And then the two exciting whites, too. I mean, they're... Oh, yeah, they made some plays. They were making plays.
Starting point is 00:09:56 They were making plays. Ryan Blankenship is. Yeah. Cooper DeGine is a ball. They was making plays. In a Quineau and Mitchell. Oh, yeah. It's one of those things where you turn on the film with the Philadelphia Eagles,
Starting point is 00:10:05 and at the end of every play, the opponent's offensive play, you see 10 or 11 guys in the screen. Like, they are always, they're running to the ball. They're destroying people. Their defensive line is elite. Who is, who's Jalen Carter? Jalen Carter. His ability to put pressure in the middle of the offensive line and bring pressure up to the quarterback, there's no way to step into your throw. So these guys on the edges are able just to run the hoop every single time.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Catch that quarterback at nine and a half, 10, 11 yards. And it is just, it's a ticking time bomb every single time. They have, like, this is the most unbelievable stat for their three game run so far to the Super Bowl is they've got 10 takeaways. They haven't turned, they're plus 10 in the turnover ratio in three games. It's unbelievable. Like, it's crazy. Like, they're just punching the ball out.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah. Two weeks in a row. I mean, everybody practiced it. Like, I know everybody team practice it. They preach it. They talk about it. Like, you're just watching us the exact ball and punch it out. You're watching Orrin Burs punching it out.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Same thing last week, Jalen Carter to, you know, to Kyron Williams with the Rams. Do you think there's anything the commanders could have done to win that game? You just can't turn the ball over. I mean, they got four turnovers. Yeah, they're just turning the ball. But they can't stop the run. So it's like, okay, you know the commanders can't stop the run. They're going to do that the entire game.
Starting point is 00:11:20 They have Austin Echler. He catches the ball, it touches a knee. They had bad matchups. Really, I mean, they went out and got Lattimore. And Marshons been a good player for a long time. But he's not the same guy that he once was when he was making Pro Bowls. In Orleans, he tries to match up with A.J. Brown, he can't do it. And you can't be making dumb mistakes too.
Starting point is 00:11:37 He can't make any of the opponent. AJ Brown, I mean, that was a master class of chess with AJ. Just bait. Being able to bait him, gave his head, all of a sudden, he's, he can't. gives him a big push, hands go up, flag goes the other way. I thought the big thing was, the question, I live in Philly, so I hear this, you know, it's nonstop, right?
Starting point is 00:11:53 You know, Jailene can't read the defense, Jailen can't do this? Like, it's just noise to him. He's actually pretty good about blocking it all out. But, you know, he had a great day yesterday. He doesn't turn the ball over. He does not put the ball in harm's way. We'll not throw the ball in the middle into some zone coverage right now. He got burned. Early in New Year, won't do it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 So he'll take a sack. He'll throw it away. But his decision-making, And then yesterday, AJ went off. You know, like they couldn't stop him yesterday. Well, you put guy one-on-one with a single high safety. And the guy's pressed on AJ Brown and said, yeah, I'm going to throw it up to AJ. Oh, every time. Let him do his thing real quick.
Starting point is 00:12:26 What do you remember? Physicality, bro. Like, what did, you know, like, I'm just going to ask you. Because like, Brable said, I'm never trading him. Yeah. Remember? Yeah. I'm never trading this guy.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Fast force always on me. It wasn't Brable. But I think he's even better now. I think he's even like, because I think he's even stronger than he used to be. And he's just as exposed as he. he's ever been. He's in a, his stature alone. He plays the way he looks. Like I say, it looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. He looks like Tarzan. He does. And he worked hard in the way. He works hard. I mean, it goes back to the first play. I kind of drew it up. We don't have to go into it, but it is 19
Starting point is 00:13:00 truck. It's a pinpole scheme. And the number one block on that is the point, man. And that's AJ. Usually you're going to put your Y in that position to block down on a defensive end. That's how that's how much trust they have on AJ two block. Knowing AJ, AJ is like an edge He wants sacks. And he's blocking Dante Fowler on the play. And Fowler spins and he stays in front of him. Keeps his feet, keeps his hips and then brings him in the line. If you don't pin him, if you don't cause the chaos.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Everything else just gets washed. It gets washed. Sequin has to go back into the middle. He can't get to the alley. Because Dante Fowler spins out of that and AJ is able to use his hips and his feet and drive him at a 45-degree angle, that's why Bobby Wagner gets caught up in the fray. Because that's a four, they were in that play later. It's a four-five-yard play.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yes. Wagner and Louvo don't get caught up in all the mess. He's able to do that. Like, that's such a key block that no one's really going to talk about. But that says a lot about AJ. Because he is. And then, you know, a quarter later, he hits a go ball, catches a nice little 30 yard.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Then he gets a touchdown. A touchdown. And then he's baiting guys into it. It's like that, like, I don't know exactly what AJ Brown's stats were, but whatever stats were, he played better than a stat show. Yeah, he had like six catches. Six catches, 96 yards. He had 150.
Starting point is 00:14:12 He played like he had a hundred and. But even when he's reading a book on the sideline. Which is hilarious. Which is unbelievable. I mean, I've never seen it. I don't know, Will. You guys have seen anything like that. But even when he's reading a book on the sideline,
Starting point is 00:14:25 the guy's still making unbelievable blocks. Like he's not getting the ball. They're not throwing to him, but he's still blocking his ass off. Yeah, that was the first time I've ever seen that. First time ever. Ever. But have you ever brought a prop to a game before?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Just a prop. No, the only one were like, during a Halloween. you would wear like Halloween masks. Yeah, yeah, I wear like Halloween mask and stuff, but I don't know if I'm going to be like, he pulled his book out. Just sitting right there and then just casually. There's no one that the camera's on.
Starting point is 00:14:55 No one the cameras on you. No one the cameras are on. I mean, yeah, but good for him. Because he was going to be something about that. I mean, the whole goal, the production of the show is like inter excellence and then they're going this whole spin-off affiliation. The funny thing, the page that he's got,
Starting point is 00:15:11 it's all highlighted. Yeah. He's got the highlighted pen out. There's all highlighted. You can make sure and get back to this way, back to the house this evening after the big ball game. It is wild. He didn't give me the vibe that he was a reader.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You bought up a braveball. I think when we go to media days, I think a good question for AJ when he sit at the booth is, do you credit your success to John Robinson for trading you? Did you ask him that? No, I think we should ask. Oh, we'll get to do that. I mean, that trade, Traylon Burks, they trade for the 18th pick.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They give AJ Brown. They take Traylin Burks, 18 overall. And no, no doubt she's right to trail him. He's got all the tools and everything. I'm not sure he's had a couple of injuries and stuff like that. But the reality is, is he and I have the same amount of touchdowns in the NFL right now. And so that's tough.
Starting point is 00:15:54 The thing that's interesting about that moment in time is, this is where the Eagles are just better than everybody else. They make the trade. They do the compensation and they give them a contract all in like literally the same moment. One fail sweep. One graph. Tennessee couldn't figure out how to give him the extension. That's all he wanted, right? Like all players.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So they get to trade, the competition. and the contract done all at once. Which is wild they couldn't figure out the compensation on the Titans end because, yeah, you pay a quarterback. Yeah. But you're not paying, the quarterback had a $100 million contract, not a $300 million contract. Like you could move a whole bunch of stuff on? I know if they called me and they're like, hey, Taylor, can we just front pay you now?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. You know how to do you're rubbing with AJ, though. Like, he just got lowballed at first. And he so it took a personal. He took it personal. He didn't want to be here. That's just be honest. But the other thing is all these other reasons.
Starting point is 00:16:43 receivers are getting paid. Yeah. So he's like, you know, I mean, it's just, it's really, you just fall in line. Like, they all got paid, all of them. So AJ's just like, okay, what about my back? Yeah. Well, I think they looked at Derek hearing as the horse. So it was like.
Starting point is 00:16:56 The horse, but still didn't pay him very much. They didn't. The shitty thing for, for Derek is he got caught up in that running backs are dead. That little, that one of the three years. I think it's over. It's, yeah. I mean, the market, the market hopefully takes a jump. Because these teams are going to go nuts.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Every one of those guys said, The whole carousel, every one of them. Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs, Gary, like all those guys, went somewhere else and have had massive success. And you've seen like the comeback of the run game. Like all these teams, I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:25 I know Kansas City still comes out of the tunnel thrown it. But Deagles ran it 57% of the time. Like, you know, you got Seekwon, it helps, you know, but still, like Baltimore, Detroit, all these teams were running it far more than they're throwing it. I know. Were you guys surprised?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Were you guys surprised that Washington didn't go for it on that opening drive on fourth down. Yeah. I mean, you went twice already. Why he just don't go for the last one just to get it, get it done? It seems like they were caught and like, okay, we're going to be gutsy, we're going to be ballsy, which they've gone for on fourth down more than the other team in the NFL. They do it two times in one drive.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I don't know if they think for themselves, like, Dan Quinn's like, all right, our looks probably ran out here. Let's take the points. We're in a good, we're in a favorable position. And he's probably thinking, too, we'll be able to do this all game. Like if Washington was going to win that game, they're going to have to do it kind of the way they beat the lines, like kind of stay up and points and everything else because their defense clearly wasn't going to be able to stop the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Well, I think that's the point, Will, is if you hand it off to Sequin on the play that you're talking about behind us, for 60 yards in the first play, you're like, this might be a long day. We better score touchdowns. Field goals aren't going to get it done. Right. Yeah, so you're saying that the Eagles had the first drive as opposed to the commanders. Right. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Oh, yeah. Well, you see him start to panic around the third or fourth drive that they had, they go with three and out and you're like, man, this is about to get out of hand. And they run the fake punt. Tressway. They got me. They got me. They got me.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Bro, Tresway. I'll start looking at my phone. I hear something scream like, oh, oh, oh, shit, okay. Tressway is one of those cats. He's a punter, but he's the most athletic guy in the locker. It's a great throw. When you're playing, when you're playing. Volleyball in the backyard when you're playing.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Wolfieball, he's the best ping pong player I've ever seen. Is this a kid there was at the Chargers? No, that's Dustin Hopkins. No, no, no, no. But there was a guy. I thought he was at the Chargers when we went there for their training camp. You were like, I play with this guy at the Redskins. He was, he's good at everything. That's Dustin Hopkins. Okay. But he was, he was second. He was like, he was underneath
Starting point is 00:19:18 Tressway. Tresway is a dog. His wife was an all-American softball player at University of Oklahoma. They have brothers. I'm talking pitchers. They got it. Like, Tressway's got it. When he made that play, there's, there's, he's not even worried about that throw. Like, that was so easy at him. He's probably grinning when he's throwing the ball. He's such an athlete. He's like that. I'm telling you, bro. He's athletic and nothing to be talking about a punter right now. He's so juiced. No doubt. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:19:43 He's got hitting in a sweat. He didn't even think about it. He said, okay, good. Finally, people could just say what I do. You're like, he's so right. He's going to make that throw. He almost couldn't wait to throw it. Like, you know, you're supposed to kind of carry out a little bit of your punt action.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. He's like, I got this. Yeah. You know, every weekend the special teams coach is asking, hey, you think you're going to be good? He's just like, dog, just let me go. Just go. Just go. Just a perfect.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's a perfect high pass to where you want it. Yeah. The thing that's funny about that play is, psychotic it's psychotic it's sarcotic it is they didn't know it was coming
Starting point is 00:20:16 they did not know it was coming them boys but yeah Randy Mars with his ball sack in a wheel barrel he was covered me he soon as he went by him
Starting point is 00:20:24 he knew like he started looking back he started looking for the ball he did as soon as he beat him he was like throwing that I love based off everything Will said
Starting point is 00:20:31 that that backup tight end was shitting himself oh he was shitting himself oh he was shitting himself I'm going to swing this motherfucker out here there's a nothing but to make noise with this but yeah
Starting point is 00:20:39 just the commanders, amazing year for them. Yeah. The turnaround they've had, we've talked about the show a couple of times, but all the stuff with the head office, the owner, they end up selling the team and go in and make it to the NFC championship, like they were playing with house money. They didn't have the defense to get done this year. But they got the quarterback. Like you get the quarterback. Right. There's only, there's never, even when this was a 12 team league, there was enough good quarterbacks. Right. And so like, they got the quarterback. And like, he fixes everything.
Starting point is 00:21:05 The run game, you get a backup right guard in there. You know, like, it doesn't matter. Like, they had a rookie left tackle this year. If there's breakdowns of protection, he covers for him. If it's fourth down, he runs for it. He extends it. Like, you see, you know, McCarren's been in this league for six years. He's never had a year like this. Never. Like, he set a record for touchdowns by
Starting point is 00:21:23 commander. Yeah. Yeah. I saw something on Instagram, and I'll have to work through this. But, like, all these mobile quarterbacks now are able to run because of that Cam Newton, Tim Tebow era, where it was like not, everyone was still so used to the Tom Brady, Peyton, Maning up a statue.
Starting point is 00:21:39 quarterback. And these guys come in, like Tim Tebow obviously didn't work out in the NFL, but Johnny Mansell as well, like that kind of era of like, hey, let's get Andrew Luck, get these guys, they can show a little more than just throwing the football. Now you're seeing all like these Jay and Daniels, Lamars, the Patrick Mahomes is the Josh Allen's. Like they are, they lean a lot on their offense on their legs as opposed to just their arm. Well, the NFL can only take what the college game gives you. So the college game is giving you these guys. They're not giving you Tom Brady anymore. Like that guy isn't in college. They're putting their best athletes at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So that's one thing. And then the other thing is just talking to guys around the league because of these guys are just so lethal as soon as they break the pocket. Like it's changing the way you rush to passer. I think you're getting a lot more cage rushing now. Yeah. Like you watch Chris Jones rush. Like he could probably win on the edge
Starting point is 00:22:28 a lot more than, but like they're content Jalen Carter. These guys are content right now, Delaney. To like literally walk their man and try and keep that guy in the pocket and contain rush. Rather than the quick swims or the quick escapes, you know, sometimes, you know, you get the stunts that are working, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:46 to get the guys there. But I think we're seeing a difference in the way defense alignment are rushing. Yeah, and I think that's a good transition to go to the AFC championship game because a lot of these bigger plays, Patch of Mahomes did one or two reads and he sees big holes in the A, B, or C gap and kind of wiggled his way through there.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We'll get big chunk plays out of that. Like, we all know that, Mahomes can be a little bit lethal with the ball and the hands running it. Why aren't teams cage rushing similarly like they do, the Baltimore Ravens or the Eagles? What's interesting yesterday, Taylor, is that in the first game that they won, they spied Mahomes. And in that game, he didn't have one run. Like they spied him. Dorian Williams, Terrell Bernard.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yesterday, they didn't spy him at all. And as soon as he knows, you don't have a guy that can chase them. Like, he takes off with it when he sees it. And he got all those first downs and two, you know, two rushing. touchdowns. Two Russian touchdowns. And also like, you bring up like every team runs the ball a whole lot except for the chiefs. Like the chiefs are using their short pass game as their run game, as they're running. That's basic West Coast offense. And you read. Karim Hunt does a hell of a job. A hell of a job. But even in the middle part of that game, like the second quarter, third and even
Starting point is 00:23:58 in the fourth like Kareem Hunt, he started to get stopped a little bit. Pacheco was kind of not even around that game until those last couple of plays in the four minute. Like a lot of those chunks that were taken out aside from that first quarter and the second half of the second quarter was Mahomes, getting out of the pocket running, making it and dancing a little bit and getting the two Russian touchdowns. Did you think like the bills in that third quarter, they just started running the ball? Like right down the field. That drive that they had, they only had one throw.
Starting point is 00:24:24 One throw, right? Eight runs and they ran for the touchdown. Did you think like they were taken over the game at that point? At that point, I did. I did. I think, yeah, you start to impose your will the way they did. I thought, and it wasn't like exotic type of months. It was zone, it was mid-zone
Starting point is 00:24:39 It was hand the ball off There was nothing creative about it They were just taking their physicality Against the Chief's physicality And they were handling business That drive that they had Almost tells you that they should have started off Like they did such a good job throughout the year
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's like last week when they played Baltimore Josh Allen only threw for like 180 And they were great on the ground They've had such a good bounce attack all year long They come out those first two drives And Josh is trying to sling it And you can tell whether it's nerves, moment He's having some lackluster throws.
Starting point is 00:25:09 He's fumbling the snap. But if you're running the football, the way that the Buffalo could run the football this year with Joe Brady is the OC, like you can tell on that third quarter drive, they got away from that in the first quarter. They should have probably established it in the beginning of the game like they've kind of done all along. Their first two drives are the same way. They ran it on first down. They got three, four yards. The second drive they ran out in first down, got three, four yards.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Then they threw it two separate times after that. But you could see the pressure mounting in Josh. Allen's head, those first couple of drivers and didn't allow him to settle down. They're trying to take chunk plays. And I know, like, Joe, I, like, I'm excited to see if the Chiefs can do a 3P. I'm gutted for the Buffalo Bills. I want it for the Bills. I want it for Josh Allen. He's been on the bus. Fan base. He's an awesome cat. He's like a dude type of dude. He's the best. Man, I really just want him to get over this hump because I think they can really get done it. They can just get past the Chiefs. But you can see it that he's wearing all that pressure,
Starting point is 00:26:01 all that weight on his shoulders. Like the whole week leading up, the mainstream media, We're like, hey, who has more pressure? Chiefs to three people or the bills to beat the Chiefs. And everyone's kind of leaning going, hey, bills versus the chiefs, that's the thing. And you see it in his face. So if you were able to just get a couple of throws out, even if it's like a bubble screen, get the ball out of your hand. How does it feel slinging a little bit and real, when the goals are flying? They were real, they got stuffed on that one, fourth and one. It just killed them.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Talking about the third court. Yeah. Yeah. The one that was controversial? Yeah. Yeah, it was. But that was a first down. But that was a first down.
Starting point is 00:26:33 So it's weird, Will. So a couple of years ago, I remember. we were having a seminar back when the Eagles first started their whole, you know, push thing, right? So should they outlaw it? Should they keep it? Right. So they said, well, I asked the official, like my prayer, I said, you know, how do you
Starting point is 00:26:49 officiate this play? Because it seemed like the whistle never blows. And they said, like on that play, he started going sideways. And they said, as soon as they start going sideways and you're not going forward, the whistle should blow. They should stop the momentum. And so he did start because he kind of went through the left guard hole there. kind of moved it.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And then he started getting pushed. Chris Jones, the guy started pushing him. But I don't know. Like, I don't know how to, I don't know how they get that play right sometimes. Well,
Starting point is 00:27:15 with the Buffalo Bills, they suck at running that push push. Yeah, they're not good. They don't suck at it. The chiefs looked at him and Spags goes, hey,
Starting point is 00:27:23 every single time he's going to take the snap, he's going to take a shuffle to the left and he's going to go up the middle. But either way, but the defense, the defense has, you know, the majority of their guys
Starting point is 00:27:31 gaping out A, B, and C on the left side. Yeah. It's like they knew what he was going to do. But the Eagles get like three guys back there. They run it up their ass in a four minute. Oh, yeah. It's a wedge block.
Starting point is 00:27:42 The two blocks are different. That's what I'm saying. The bills suck at running it. They have their one running back back there to push him. He doesn't even really push him. Josh just tries like going to the left and do it in himself. The Eagles got like three guys behind them. It's like a weird victory formation.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah. Wedging, then they run dual. Like the bills almost run dual. They do duo. You know what I'm saying? They try to double team. the one time Josh went up and over and he freaking fumble. That's why you don't go up and over.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I don't even know if he got it back or not. The ball was out. They didn't get the ball back on that one. But you guys don't think. So you're saying he got stuff. You're saying it wasn't a first down? I'm saying that that call could have gone either way. Whatever it was called in the field, it should have stood.
Starting point is 00:28:22 They called it as a turnover. It stood as a turn. Did you not see those referees running, like having the first down. And then they go backwards a little bit. To get out of the way of a player. He got put sideways. Once he got put sideways, one guy was saying it was a first down. One guy was running on.
Starting point is 00:28:38 There's no question. Like they came in opposite. Yeah, they came in like this. One was on the line or over the one, the other one was inside the line. Yeah. The one that was on the line over the line that would have given the first down, Chiefs player in the way, he has to move around that. And when he reestablishes his walk, he's in a completely different spot.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I get it. I understand that. But I'm just saying the entire year of the Chiefs, this team could get away with murder. That's right. That's where I'm. I'm sitting back. I'm going, let's pump the brakes because I agree the entire year, the Chiefs have had calls go their way 99 out of 100 times. Every, like, every single time.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You don't want to go to the Chiefs. This game, if I were to say, hey, you're going to be one, like a one for five on third down, on short yards third down. You're going to go, you're going to go 0 for two and two point conversions. Yeah. You're going to have your first drive is going to be, you could have thrown two picks in three plays. No doubt. the chiefs had the most razor sharp first drive you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:29:37 If I were to tell you that without giving you context, which team is going to win? Yeah. The team that has a razor sharp first drive? I mean, it's not like the bills were just like having massive chunk plays and then they were getting called back or they were getting stops or burned down. That's not a bit of that. You murder a drive because that is a pivotal point in the game. It's a pivotal point of the game.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But if you go to the bills and that are in a pivotal point of the game when Josh Allen has that incredible throw, I can't remember the receiver's name. He makes a great catch. And the flag comes out. My first out was, here we go, Chief stuff. That call was on the Chief's defense. And so it seemed like they were calling it equal, if not overcorrecting a little bit against the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Like we kind of talked about before. That's what kind of always happens. The one staff that still's out there, Tyler, I think it's correct too. In the three Super Bowl wins that the Chiefs have, they don't have one holding call. They don't have one holding call by any offensive alignment. They had a bunch, though, against the when they lost at Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yes, they did. And then the one against the Eagles, Where was tiki-tack? And it's, again, by the book, it's a correct call. But that little hold, that little grab. What was it on, Juju Smith-Shooster? Yeah. When they kind of got him a couple years ago, that was extremely controversial.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like, it was a tiki-tack call, but also it's like, yeah, if you go buy the book, that technically is a penalty. That's a penalty. It blows my mind, man. And here we are again. Here we are again. Here we are. In two weeks.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Unless there's a meteor, the chiefs are probably going to be Super Bowl champions. I don't know, bro. I don't know. I'm not really saying that. I'm personally. I'm personally. I think I'm taking the Chiefs, I think. I think.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But the Eagles, the way he was explaining it to, them defensively, like this is a different, this is a different team. And if you look at the, if you look at the Chiefs, they've only scored over 30 points, like two games this year. Last night was one of them. Like they have, they don't have this high-powered offense. Well, one thing the Eagles eliminate is your quick game. Any hitches, any screens outside.
Starting point is 00:31:29 They, you know, there was an old saying, like you step up to clean it up. you back up, you give it up. Like, they're rookies, Quinyon, Cooper DeGine. Like, it doesn't matter who it is. Like, they attack all those plays. Right. And they attacked them yesterday. Like, they didn't get anything off those quick screens.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You see that play that Cooper DeGine made? It was either Cooper or Ryan. I can't tell the whites out there. But they were in the bunch. It's too blind. Yeah, yeah. But they were in that bunch, and they threw a quick screen out to the outside.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Cooper DeGine's the only guy on the point, man, just kind of throws Crowder aside and makes the play in the back. Well, that was a two-point conversion. Yeah. That was a two-point. Yeah, it was two-point conversion. I think there was another one in the middle of the field. The field where he makes it, where he makes a place.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He's so, but is that the one of the fumble? It was the fumble one, right? Is that Fumble? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The announcers go, well, he is known for having little hands. I'm thinking, oh, man. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:20 No, they did it, yeah. They go, Echo has always had a trouble with the receiving because it's going to be. But if the receiver, Crowder just blocks or gets in the way of Cooper regime, they have a play, because Cooper is just by himself down there and makes a play by him. Right. Exciting wise. They got a defense, man. They have a defense.
Starting point is 00:32:34 They have a defense. And Sakeor Markley. They made that offensive more incredible. That Vic Fangio, he lines up in a two deep shell every play. And then you don't know what they're doing until the snap. Like he just keeps you guessing. He's not going to give you anything away. That's the most exciting thing watching football now is the chess game.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yes. Between two coordinators. No doubt ones. I agree. You see it a lot too. I totally agree. The Eagles did it a lot. And then the AFC championship, you could see them kind of look over to the side.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You see the shell and they're going and they're checking. place, they're coming back, they're reloading the play. Like, that's a fun pre-stap thing to watch. But that's, so that's, you know, you're going to get a lot of that Super Bowl Sunday. You have Spags here. You have Kellamore. Like, they're going to be, that's the chess match right there. Spaggs, he's got the smallest play sheet.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You know, his, like some people got a New Jersey diner right there they're calling plays from. Spags has a sheet that's like half of this right here. It's like, how many different pressures do you have on there? Yeah. Well, and to dial up that corner blitz on that fourth down. Yeah. For Josh Allen, who, by the way,
Starting point is 00:33:30 put like hero throw. Like that should have been. Hey, that's one thing that we're missing here is King Kate should have caught that. He should have that ball. Oh my God. He should have to. It's like, he said, his reaction, his reactions like,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I know. And once you watch a replay, you're like, oh, he should have caught the ball. He should have caught it. Because when he threw in there, I'm like, oh, that's a pick. Yeah, that's not going out. That's not going out of the, holy shit. I'm like, oh. Now to go into, I don't think this game was a flat, like,
Starting point is 00:33:55 was for the Chiefs from an NFL standpoint, the way we've been seen it the entire year. But you did see in that. that play, Kincaid, he almost caught the ball and a flag came out and they picked the flag. Yeah, they picked it up. Do we know what the flag was? It was just a case. If he caught it, they were all, push off.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That's the good. Chiefs were going to the Super Bowl no matter what. As soon as he didn't catch it, they wiped it all. Ah, yeah, let's pick this. Oh, he dropped it? My bad. Yeah. Is that the Taylor Swift, like, effect?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah. I think it's a Taylor Swift effect. It's the Andy Reid thing. I think last year is a big T's worth effect. This year, I feel like it's more three-peat effect. You know how many people going to code to the game? I mean, Chiefs going, you know how many fans are about to be at the game again? Like Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Probably the same as last year. No, Las Vegas was like 11. They made, what, 11 billion in one day, bro, and Las Vegas. I'll let you just put it in Vegas every year. Every year. I agree. Do you guys think this matchup is kind of the worst one for viewership? Yeah, well, we talked about it last week.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Why? Well, just fatigue? Because you got, you just got the Chiefs and you got the Eagles. It's like two, twice and what, three years? Twice and three years. Yeah, but fan base crazy. Both teams were there. If the bills were there, it would change.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It'll be different. It'll be different. You put up that map for America and it's like, who's cheering for who, and it'll be like, Chiefs Red, Eagles are green. And then, like, gray is just like the Red, like, whoever else. It's literally like, chiefs, where the Chiefs are, the Eagles, and then everybody else is like, we don't really care. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Like, you would have loved to see the bills. Everybody would love to see the bills. If you saw those commanders, it had been like, oh, my gosh. We'd be sitting there's going to happen. The bills in the early 90s when they went to four Super Bowls in a row, the continued story of that is. Every team they lost to is from the NFC East. So the bills would have been playing in NFC East.
Starting point is 00:35:34 That is sick. I did not know that. Yeah. They lost Dallas twice, Washington. Yeah. And then, what was Dallas the third? Was they lost the Dallas back to back? Because Dallas went to the Super Bowl a lot in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yes. But Dallas won back to back Super Bowls. Then the command, Redskins beat them in Minnesota that year. And then I forget who their fourth defeat was. Did the Giants? Was it the Giants? in the early 90s? No.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You got LT. Just saying, hey, you got LT, they probably won a Super Bowl. Yeah, they went 90, 1990. Yeah. The Giants won. Yeah, that's right. Down the Giants, yep. Yep, that was the first one.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah, heartbroken for the bills, man. Yeah. Hardbroken, most happy for the commanders in a completely different sense. But they got smiles in their faces this morning while we get in the trash bags out in the locker. Yeah, I mean, you got Jane Daniels there. Yeah. I mean, the only person, I mean, Bobby Widenner, I feel bad for him because he might be done. He could be done.
Starting point is 00:36:27 He could be done. He probably be done. Or are you not? He won't be with the commanders. He got one, though. He got two, right? Yeah. Well, he got one with Seattle. Oh, did he get one with the Rams?
Starting point is 00:36:34 I was just thinking that, but I think they didn't go that year. Did he? No. I don't think so. That was last year. That was last year. Yeah, I don't think so. But yeah, man, both great, I mean, not both great games.
Starting point is 00:36:44 That AFC championship was. It was good. Let me ask you this. When, was it the Bills ran a play and then someone challenged it? No, the Chiefs ran a play. Then they ran another play. And then they decided to challenge the previous play. After the snap? Oh, yeah. After the snap.
Starting point is 00:37:02 After the snap. I didn't understand. I don't understand that at all. That's the rule. Was there a penalty on that play? Because if there was a penalty on the play, then the play doesn't count. So that was the play that Worthy came down. Yes. With a equal ball. Once they catch, no catch. Came down. Ball ends up touching, but it was defensive holding on whoever was covering Kelsey. I think it was the more Hamlin. Yes. So they run another play. I believe it's incomplete or it's a touch. I can't remember the result.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And Buffalo challenges. But Buffalo challenges, whether there was an interception or not. Right. But it's like, that doesn't matter. It would have been a penalty either way. You're getting a new set of downs regardless. It was a very weird sequence of events. Do you recognize that?
Starting point is 00:37:39 No, I saw your tweet. I saw your tweet, but I wasn't. That catch was unbelievable, though. Unbelievable. But was that a catch? Ball hit the ground. Did it hit the ground? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:49 When they show the tip of the ball hits the ground and Worthy's got one hand on it and then the defensive player has two hands on it. I forget, Baldi could be compromised. What do you mean? He's with the NFL network. What that mean? He might have to say, like, oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He's got the deal. He's a good deal with everything. I just told us right. You're right. It was a catch. I'm working for the cheese right. I don't know. I'm just a fan right here, Will.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I'm just like, I'm questioning the same things, man. So you think, like, obviously Philly has the recipe to beat the cheese. Oh, yeah. So you think. I said on a podcast before the playoffs started that the Eagles go four and O in the postseason. Really? Like, I thought they were. just better in the trenches than everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:30 They do have hogs. Like, just look at this. Like, their center has got a bad back. All right? Who know? Jurgens. He's got one of these.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Like, he needs, he's probably going to get an operation. I don't know, like, but it's bad. So he doesn't play. So now they move the left guard to center. Land and Dickson. Right?
Starting point is 00:38:46 And he gets hurt. Like, he's limping. He's on one leg. He can't stand up. Right. So now they've got to put Jurgens back in the game. You're playing a second year left guard. Like, this stuff has been going on
Starting point is 00:38:56 throughout the year. Like, nothing matters. Like, they just still keep, like, most offensive lines, if they lose a guy or two guys, like, they fall apart. Yeah, a lot of the Eagles. Usually your sixth guy is an adequate football player, but you lose a lot of, I don't want to be this strablers. I know a lot of seven and eight guys. But, like, that seventh and eighth guy on your offensive line is like, we got to get through a game with this guy. You got to get through a game.
Starting point is 00:39:18 But it seems like the Eagles can just kind of keep them coming in no matter what. They took Mackay Beckton, right, who's been three injury marred years with the Jets. Yeah, a bit of a bust. All of that. he's never played guard in his life nobody ever asked him to play guard didn't know if he could play guard he goes in there
Starting point is 00:39:32 the guy's a pro bowl guard to me like I didn't see nobody beats him and his power is like unmatched he's a different he's a different type of human being and you're talking about trunches and run game like what you need to win a championship on the opposite side of ball the Eagles have that over the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:39:46 yeah if you had a quarterback who's not going to turn the ball over and he doesn't have to be Superman and win the game yeah so if you look at Jalen if you look at Jalen Hurts give me the Eagles everything I got I'm going to Chiefs then. I'll take it easy.
Starting point is 00:39:58 If you take Jalen Hurts out of that last commander game, Week 16, where he got concussed. He's 13 and 0 in his, in that run, 13 and 0 since the by week. And he's thrown one interception in those 13 games. Yeah. The Eagles. You're going Chiefs, aren't you? Well, I probably, yeah, I'm going to go Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But to argue against the, just for the sake of conversation, the Eagles seemed like they were playing that game knowing they were winning the game the whole entire time. The move with Juergens keeping him. He was there in just in case of emergency. And he goes in. Yeah, he ends up going in. Landon Dickerson, he's like, he knows he's got to play to help Juergens out because
Starting point is 00:40:34 in two things they go to the Super Bowl. Sequin and Barclay, they pull him out at the right time. But all of Jalen Hurts runs, a lot of times you see him lower the shoulder and fight for extra yards. Anytime the play was over for him, slide. He's down. It was a one-yard loss. He's going to be healthy.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, and that's where you could see Philly having it. But Kellyn Moore versus Spags, I would mean Spags. It's hard. to blitz the way Spags does if you're just running the ball down their throats. That is true. You just stay with it. It kind of eliminates out. And again, it's like, the chiefs have the athletes on the outside. They have the athletes on the outside to match up one-on-one with their receivers. And so you're able to load that box a little bit more. Yeah. But this is a different offensive line, too. Like a lot of times it's like you can almost
Starting point is 00:41:14 overload one side put Chris Jones by himself somewhere else. Who are you going to match Chris Jones up against? It's probably going to be somebody from the inside because it is going to be Lane Johnson. It's going to be Milata. Like they got, they have such a good offensive front. I'm going to tell Chris Jones, hey, you're not playing on the outside, unless you're in these packages. Yeah, staying inside. But you're staying on the inside. You're rushing against those.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That's where it goes, though. He goes where he thinks he can win. I don't think he thinks he can beat Milato or Lane. Right. So he'll stay inside probably. When did, was JJ Watt the first person that started doing that? Well, he would kind of go down the line on the five and say, oh, hey, who's having a confidence issue?
Starting point is 00:41:46 But before that, Bruce Smith did that. Bruce Smith did that. Yeah, he'd got, I remember one time, I had to go in a play center. I was in Indianapolis. We played him twice a year. And like, the center got hurt. So I go from guard to center. And as soon as I get there,
Starting point is 00:41:58 Bruce Smith comes to visit me. You know, like, I'm snapping in a shotgun in the first play. And Bruce is like, cock nose on my snapping hand. Yeah. And I'm like, shit. This motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Mother fuck. Get back as fast as ball. I'm like, a quick pop in the middle of the forehead. I'm like, just getting the ball back to the quarterback. Yeah. So we get pops of the forehead. Jalen Carter. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:19 No. And also just binking the, what was it, the center in the eye? Was that like, WWE? Yeah. He gave him a captain. He loses it sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:26 He's like, I'll take the penalty. He put the center down. He's so violent, man. I showed a play this morning. Like, they had a play where they were going to wham him with the running back. He literally jumped over the way. He jumped over the wham. Like, I've seen tackles do everything in his business playing.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I've seen a tackle jump over a block like that. He's like in mid-air, like off the turnbuckle. Yeah. Wham is the dumbest play to me. I hate the wham. You hate the wamp? I think it's so cheap. I love the Wham. I love WAM.
Starting point is 00:42:59 My experience with the WAM is TFL's. It's always a TIFT or a fullback trying to slash the nose. They get banked and bounced off. That was a big Belichick play. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we found its way to the Titans. Eagles, too, when they went on that Super Bowl run. They were big that year for the WAM.
Starting point is 00:43:15 San Fran ran it a lot, too, when I was there. I love power. I love counter. I love perimeter plays. Yeah, but that WAM, everybody has this play now, Taylor. I call it triple trap double scoop. So you have the WAM block, you have the guard block, and you have the tackle blocking out.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So you get three traps. And then you have the two inside scoops on the linebackers. And like, I just see this play getting busted and pop like left and right. Always. Right up in the middle. There's a lot of times too when you're in the zone scheme and you just have a tight end sift across.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Your eyes as a backer, everybody's looking to go gap back, gap. And then once people catch on, the WAM start coming into the equation because it emulates the tight end going to crossing yourself back to the other gap. But really against the wham, you have to go straight down hill to beat that tackle. So it is, it's a tough play.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It depends. Ours, it depends who you wham and what technique they was in. That's what the tights made it more difficult because we had to read the technique. We'll motion across and be like, okay, I got the three. Now you got to wham that three. But if it was, if he wasn't in the three, you wham what, the nose. Yeah. So it was like, you had to know who to wham.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Right. And when you were in a motion going across, And sometimes when your motion, they bump. They bump. Yeah, so that used to throw you. I just kind of wait to see who the line was going to let free. I love teams. I love teams that do basic things elite with a little bit of window dressing.
Starting point is 00:44:37 A couple of motions slash a guy. But at the end of the day, you're running inside zone. You're running duo, dose, those types of things. That's awesome. It's also the world I grew up in, where you're making basic things look a little bit more exotic by the end of the day, it's this play. That's the stuff that I like. A lot of cheese out there in this.
Starting point is 00:44:54 world, man. A lot of cheese. A lot of cheese. Can't take it. Big game. Where are you going? Big game. Chiefs favored by one and a half. The over under on this game is 49 and a half. I'm taking the Chiefs. Chiefs, I'm taking the Chiefs. We know you are. Because I want to see a three Pete. I love to see it. It's history. It's, uh, we walked into the AFC Championship and I said, I want the Bills to win this game. And if the bills don't win, I'm going for the Chiefs. I'm going for the Chiefs. My worst case scenario was Chiefs Eagles. Is the, is the last three Pete in any sport Was it the Lakers? Add.
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Starting point is 00:45:59 achieving the first thing ever in NFL in NFL history, that's special to me. It's not going to happen. Dude, he's got to retire. He's not retiring after this year. Yeah. You look at Jason Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:46:10 You get it dying, see, bro. You look at Jason Kelsey. Would you say, Jason, hey, if you go back, would you play one last year and retire at the Super Bowl? It's different with Jason. Jason was in them trenches.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I feel like Kelsey still got a couple more years in them. A couple more years in them. He definitely feels a lot better than what Jason. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But at the same time, he's like he's got two receptions last game. Be the only person. He's not really like, you could sit.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, but he's got the record for the most postseason touchdowns. No doubt. No, I'm saying he's the first ballot. He's like the greatest tag of all time. That's what I'm saying. He's achieved all of the things. Why not go out on a three-pe? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I mean, I do think some people can stay at the party too long. Yeah. And the fact that him and his brother got all these things set up, you know, production. He's got a billion dollars. us from Pfizer for the COVID vaccine. I mean, in the commercial. We're talking about it. He's got so much, man.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Money's an issue for the guy. He's getting the biggest star in the world. No, I mean, he could just go be the, you know, the next action hero, whatever they're going to do with him. Yeah. I just, you've done it all, man. You've done it all. You've achieved it all.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Like, why not go? That's definitely a discussion. Yeah. His game's got Eagles all over it. Yeah. And that's why we go cheats. Everyone watching, that's why you go cheats. I'm never going to go.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I shouldn't go against the cheese. Line of scrimmage. I like the Eagles. defense I like the Eagles running game I like the Eagles the only thing that is up for argument is really the quarterback position they got Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:47:30 but Jalen Hertz again to his point 13 games one interception you got somebody who doesn't turn the ball over you're not going to really stop Sequan Barkley in this rushing attack in my opinion maybe they might they do have a good run defense but I just feel like all like you look at the prumer of players
Starting point is 00:47:44 on the outside Devante Smith AJ Brown you got the tight in Goddard like they just have so many weapons their roster's better And I know, again, to me, you get caught up in the fascination of three-pete and everything else. This has got Eagles. Who do you think the biggest star of this game is? Do you think it's Mahomes or do you think he could be Sequins?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Sequin. Sequin Barclay. And February 9th, guess what? Seekoine Barclay's birthday. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. What's your age of what? Born in 97, I saw it the same thing.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Born in 97? So whatever that is. Okay, 28. 28. 28. Yeah, 28. Still got it. Young buck.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean, not just still got it. Young bug, bro. I mean, what Travis was like 30? No, Travis is older than me. He's like 56. 30, oh, okay. Yeah. Who you got, Delaney?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Eagles. I know I shouldn't go against the Chiefs. I've said this multiple times, but again, I think the Eagles are the better team here. You never bet against the champ until the champ gives you a reason to bet against it. Trust me. We say this every week. I know. And what happens every week?
Starting point is 00:48:47 I lose. Yeah. But at some point. Yeah, at some point. It's going to go ahead. Hey, what were the records last week? They're not telling us. Not good.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Okay, okay, okay, okay. I mean, it's, because I think I handle business. No, you probably hit one. Then you go bills and, uh, bills and Eagles. So one and one. Yeah, it's one and one. Did I go that? I bet the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's like we, we, everybody kind of said the things of like, hey, three Pete. The Eagles, I was like, hey, the Eagles are probably going to win this game, but I'm room for the commanders, but I'm still O and two. And also, what I say in the regular season, bills, B, the Chiefs in regular season. Four and O. Four and O be regular season. What they need to do next year,
Starting point is 00:49:27 sit all their starters. Bill's need to sit all their starters. Don't win. Lose. You lose. You've now flipped the straight. You guys have the biggest omen for who's going to win this game
Starting point is 00:49:34 right on the wall right there. I'm looking at Rocky. Yeah. Like it's, it's Rocky's town, man. There you go, like there you go. There you go. The parade's going right up the steps.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Here's another omen. For the last two and a half years, Will Compton said the chiefs are dead. They're always going to be dead. And it has willed. I've guaranteed the Chief's locker There's a picture of Will Compton and someone with his old teeth
Starting point is 00:49:53 and they're like, this motherfucker is the reason why we're going to win the Super Bowl. Drew Trankwell tweeted at me last night says, Compton loves the chiefs. He's going to be talking about us all week on buss on the boys.
Starting point is 00:50:02 There it is. Because he goes there, for everybody saying the referees, yada yada, we staying on business. And I just put business and it was just a penalty flag with business written on it.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Is that one of the greatest signings though? The chief signing Drew Tranquil. Bro, he's been a stud. He's been unbelievable. Because when he was on the chargers, who was he with then? Who was the guy next? to him. Well, they had the guy from Kenneth Murray.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Kenneth Murray. Yeah, he's had a hell of a... Dude, Bolton, too. Both of them. That play that he made, like, was it got, or, uh, was it Kincaid or Knox? Where he, it's a good ball and it's over the middle. And Bolton just plays his arms. He catches the ball, Bolton plays it. Neither one of them ever come off the field. They play every play.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. They have good, they have good backers. They do. Shout out Drew. Maybe next year on the all white team. That's probably where he's probably projecting because he was on the old white team. Yeah. Yeah. He want to be, he said. Probably. Chiefs, Eagles, Eagles. Eagles.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, Eagles. I just thought that. But for a good reason, though, Taylor, like, honestly, like, they're better in the trenches. That's where these games are won. Like, they're just better than the Chiefs are right there. I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I know coaching matters. The offensive lines better.
Starting point is 00:51:08 The run game's better. You said Andy Reid, Nick Sariani, right? I mean, you know, like, there's certain things that definitely, I don't think people are going to question. You know. The game plan. All game playing. On defense, you got that. a great defense in Philly. It's all about, hey, when
Starting point is 00:51:22 Xavier Worthy's in, where he's lined up here, here's when he's motion, here's the big motion tendency. You always got to be aware of who's in the game. Here's the thing. You bring up that. Andy Reid's and the other thing saying, when Xavier Worthy's here, they're going to thank X, Y, and Z are aware of this. Andy Reed was the best. Andy Reed is a step
Starting point is 00:51:38 above everybody else. And you've got two weeks to prepare, so you have to do that self-scouting. It's kind of like when Alabama was relevant. It's like Nick Sabin, if he is a month to prepare for you, like that's going to beat you. You give him a pint of Hagendoss, And like, you know, and let them burn the midnight off. Cheez burger? Like that guy is tinkling like nobody else.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah. That's why all these guys. He'll have doubles. Like, all these guys that leave Andy Reed's nest in offense. Like, they're never really successful. Ever. Because none of them have the mind of Andy. Like there's never a, like most teams, they have a playbook.
Starting point is 00:52:08 We work out of the playbook. We'll tinker a little bit. Andy's playbook. It's just, it's never ending. Right. It's a constant. It's just concepts. It's concepts.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like, where was Juju Smith Schuster all year? All year. Like here he was an RPO, right, down the middle of the field. Hollywood Brown. I know. Come in and start cleaning. He was kind of, yeah. He's kind of, yeah, is he around?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Like, when you're utility guy as DeAndre Hopkins, you're in a good spot. Yeah. You're in a good spot. Just, just, just, just the only, for DeAndre, if the ball's thrown, just make sure you catch it. Yeah. You know, like, that's all he's got to do.
Starting point is 00:52:44 We don't need you to get yak. No, he ain't getting a. And he's going to get, he understands the soft points of his own defense. He still has. the ability to beat guys in man coverage. Don't catch the ball for sure. He's going to catch you. Hey, look for Travis Gilles and have a big game.
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Starting point is 00:53:39 So fellas, Super Bowl MVP. I'm going Eagles, so I'm going to go with Jalen. You're going Jalen. See, I'm going to Eagle, but I'm going Seacquine. I would have said Seekwon, but I think quarterback. It's got to be. If the Eagles win, it's going to be because of Sequan Barkley. You think so, right?
Starting point is 00:53:55 He's going to have at least 120. You would think so. Buddy, he's going to rush for, yeah, one. Two plus touchdowns. I know, but, you know, Jalen and quarterback. So sometimes I just feel like the quarterback always. I think you, I wouldn't surprise me, you know, Sequan just take a screen and just take it to the house.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Like, just little things. You get him in the open field right now. He's just making every right cut, every right move. And nobody can catch him. This is the first time, really, in his whole career, he's been healthy start to finish. He hadn't been nicked up by anything. Like, he gets two weeks to rest. No, he saw him with a there gun in that calf.
Starting point is 00:54:27 He was, he heard of his cat. After the first couple of drives, he saw him with the theroy. What was that? Is that like just a cramp? What was that? No, that's a little strain. When he took that block. You got a strain, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He took that block in the middle. You can't run that well. I'm not saying, I'm not a doctor. Well, I'm not out here saying he has an actual strain. I'm saying he's not the theragin after one drive. Something's obviously bothering him in the calf. Yeah, but I'm saying it's not too I saw him on a bicycle too
Starting point is 00:54:49 I saw him on a bicycle too We were you on a bicycle yesterday Yeah he was on the bike He was on the bike He was on a 60 yard run He's got two weeks It was after he took on that block Over in the middle
Starting point is 00:55:00 And then that's when he went out And started messing with his calf He picked up that blitz Where he did He Bobby, he bodied him Did you not say Yeah he bodied him I posted that picture
Starting point is 00:55:10 I posted that picture I posted him up Wags is Wags is pissed That I posted at He like You didn't mention that the guard freaking shove me too, but. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Hey, Wags. I know. And he had you up too. He sent me up as well on a list where I did the top five linebackers. You didn't put him on? Oh, he might have been fourth or fifth, or maybe not. Yeah. And I'm just thinking like, yeah, bro, I mean, Jesus, there's so many.
Starting point is 00:55:33 No, but they all take that. Yeah, yeah, they take a person. Yeah, yeah, they take a person. That's all right. So you're on Jalen, Seek-1, take one? I'm taking you sake one. All right, I'll take, obviously, the Pat Mahomes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. It's exciting. Chiefs winning, Pat, Pat, MVP. Have the Chiefs win? The Chiefs win, yeah. I'd say past the MVP. Is there anybody else that you think, oh, they could take the MVP? Because I don't think there should be one receiver that Travis.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Travis. Travis, if he have a hell of a game, Travis, definitely. Or Chris Jones. Well, why not? No. That's a defender. Yeah, Bonn Miller. Bonn-Den defender.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, but did you see how many sacks that man had? He closed the game out. He closed the game out there. Yeah, that was in a great. fashion. I mean, you're going to win it when you do something like that. I hope we get Cam Newton for an interview in the Super Bowl because I love to talk about him not diving on that fumble. He talked about it all the time. I know, but I just love that. What do you say? What do you say about to get hurt or break his hand or something like that?
Starting point is 00:56:29 It's the Super Bowl. I know. You got to be able to go on that play. What are you talking about? You lost the game on that play on that. He's like, I'm not allowed to break my hair. Just brutal. All right. All right, we feel good? We are jumping in the bus right now. You have big hugs, tiny kisses. Comment. Subscribe. Hey. Good luck.
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