Bussin' With The Boys - Brian Peters Chasing Edges

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Recorded: July 16, 2021 | Arguably the two most blue collar hard-working men to have ever played in the NFL hosting a podcast together. Brian Peters journey to the NFL is one of the wildest you will ever hear. (2:08) Brian's Journey from Northwestern to the NFL (8:00) Arena Football (14:00) Brian's broken jaw (25:00) NFL workouts and blood diagnosis (36:50) Longsnapping and trying to get back into the league (53:53) Playing with the Texans (1:02:40) Breath work and ice baths in frozen lakes Be sure to support the boy Brian Peters and subscribe to his new podcast "Chasing Edges". ----- EARN YOUR WOLF: Want to be featured on our Instagram Story? Screenshot this episode, tag @bussinwtb, and share it to your Story. The Boys will take care of the rest... ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Betterhelp: Go to https://barstool.link/BetterhelpBussin for 10% off your first month. WhistlePig Whiskey: Visit barstool.link/piggybackryesmash for more info and make sure you grab a box in select stores! Cross Country Mortgage: Go to https://barstool.link/crosscountrymortgageBSS so CrossCountry Mortgage can take care of you through the home buying process. CrossCountry Mortgage LLC. NMLS 3029 All loans subject to underwriting approval. www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org Rhoback: Go to https://barstool.link/bussin and use the code BUSSIN for 20% off your first order! Sling: Visit Go to https://barstool.link/Sling to sign up now and get your first month starting at 10 dollars.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're a nerd. You are a transitional safety that went to linebacker, that moved to linebacker in the league. Before you got to the league, you were in arena football, Canadian football UFL in between there I got

So you were the UFL in between arena And Canada Yeah I did like training camp And I got cut From the UFO You got cut in the UFL Cut in the league I don't want to be in yeah

And then you went up to Canada Canada Yeah Canada Yeah They'll fix you if you correct that And then you finally made it At what age to the NFL I was a 26 year old rookie

With the Minnesota Vikings Holy shit dude Yeah madness The reason I wanted to have Brian on. Obviously, he's gritty and all this type of shit. But the dude is, um, you have a perspective, a work ethic. You have a lot of shit. So Brian and I kind of met each other through like, a doctor we both like consult with, a trainer. He helps with like, when we go and get our blood work checked out, nutrients, any deficiencies we have, any injuries we have. I saw Brian's,

uh, jersey hanging on the wall. I'm like, oh, do you know Brian, you know Brian Peters asking the doctor, Dr. Serrano. Shout out, Dr. Serrano. No free shoutouts. Yeah. It's that fucking Puerto He said, yeah, he's taking care of boys. No, hey, no disrespect to the Puerto Rican. Shout out the Puerto Rican's. But Dr. Serrano is a crazy Puerto Rican. Yeah, he's a mad genius, this scientist with supplements and blood work and all these things. And you're somebody like, Will.

Brian's like my son. And, you know, I had respected Brian from afar because he was a captain for the Houston Texans, which we're going to get in all that stuff because I think it's incredible that you arena football cut now that we know from the UFL, Canadian football. NFL, you become a captain amongst like a roster filled like, you know, all the savages. J.J.J. Watt. D. Hop. We had Tyron. We had some J. Joe, Jonathan Joseph. We had dogs on that team. Yeah. And you can follow. Is it? What's your Instagram? Brian underscore Peters 10. You can check out all of his shirtless photos on Brian underscore Peters 10.

Up to your neck in the ice, anything. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, I'm jealous. I can't look like that. You know what I mean? Maybe at some point in time when I can put. the food down and actually have some discipline and not go into the pantry at night with the munchies. You know what I mean? Those Trader Joe's, dark chocolate peanut butter cups. They hit. Those dark chocolate covered almonds. I'm a big chocolate guy at the end of the night.

What are you talking about? Look at the comment. What is it? Just Brian flexing most muskiler and I just shoot all the eyes to him. Oh my God. You can see it, Garrett? I'll open up the DMs. He said, he's all laughing. He's like, fuck, I'm missing it.

But dude, where'd even start? I mean, let's talk about why in the fuck you'd play arena football. Oh, dude. So, I mean, it started on draft day. Like, obviously, like, I'm training for the combine and didn't get invited to the combine. Like, I had a good senior season. I was playing safety at the time. I'd led the Big Ten of Interceptions that year.

Like, thought I had a chance, at least to get it, like, undrafted, a free agent deal, something along those lines. draft day rolls on i i get zero phone calls i get the only person that called me on draft day was my agent and pat fitzgerald asked me like what the deal was and you uh sorry to interrupt but you had the most interceptions you were coming off the most you said something you had a stat coming off i i led the big tenant interceptions that's what i'm saying yeah yeah so like at least like i some kind of look for like i made some plays had a hundred tack like that kind of deal like i thought i had a chance like i'm not saying like you can't even get a rookie minicamp try out no so so so as a story rolls on. So like four days later, we had a Northwestern guy down in the Buccaneers training camp.

And he got me in for like the tryout in their mini camp. And their mini camp was crazy because it was Shiano's first year down there. Oh, I've never heard good things about Shiano. Dude, savage. So like, so it's a three day mini camp and we're running two a days. And so we got two two days and then one more practice. But we're doing strength and conditioning in between the two days. So we hit a workout or so we hit a practice, then we did a workout, and we run hundreds at the end of the workout, and then we go out for a second practice. So I'm playing safety at this point. Second practice, we have three linebackers pop hamstring.

So I go down and play Sam linebacker because I was the biggest safety. Yeah, you're going to have some soft tissue injuries, too. Yeah, a little overtraining, a sprinkle of overtraining. So I switched down to Sam backer and ended up holding my own. I had Brian Cox. He's an old dog from Patriots. I saw good videos. Yeah.

Yeah, he's a, he's a saucy motherfucker. He's a stud. But, like, that was, like, my first lesson. And, like, Sean, like, I had a good camp. They're like, hey, you come back here. You gain 20 pounds. Um, that kind of deal. So I was like, all right, I got a chance to get signed.

I'm leaving feeling pretty good. And I had, like, another workout the following weekend for the Bears mini camp. And they, like, that was, like, so down in Tampa, that was Mark Barron's rookie year. So he was, like, a safety that came in. And they ended up having, like, another undrafted freedom to sign that kind of thing. Anyways, long story short, they didn't sign me. but I got like my first lesson on like how to show up for a workout and that kind of thing Brian Cox was a savage like basically saying like any chance you have a time to show your

physical or show effort he goes never lose that because there's like a time I met this fullback in a hole and it was tag off and like I tagged off he goes would you hit him there I was like I was like yeah of course I would have fucking dropped him and he goes are you guys in pads no we're not in pads just helmets and he goes he goes I don't know that he goes never pass up an opportunity to fuck up a dude I was like and that stuck in the back of my mind And that showed up up in the CFL. But like from there, went to the Bears work, Bears tryout. And did I balled.

Like I had two picks in the mini camp. They had this third round draft pick that he didn't pan out. He was out of league in like two years. But like outplayed him, thought I had a chance. But like that was those two camps, like they showed that I could. They told me in the back of my head I could play. Like I knew I could play now. So like that's why I went through all these other leagues.

So that's why you're like, you're like, yeah, I'll, I'll see this through. Yeah. But so like so now I'm back in Northwestern. I'm living on a couch behind my, or I'm living on a bed behind my buddy's couch in their apartment in like northern Chicago. And, uh, and I'm working on odd jobs on personal training kids. Uh, dude, I'm babysitting. Like, I'm doing demolition for this, uh, this hockey player and his family. Um, and just getting, getting by.

And I'm training at this scrappy, phenomenal gym, this, uh, boxing gym in the basement at 10 p.m. at night. So I'm popping pre-workout at 9.30. Um, going to this basement, getting it done, waking up in the morning, going back doing again make money enough to get by and so my agent like nobody's saying anything so he sends me out for the summer to arena football the iowa barnstormers where uh kurt warner played shout out the iowa yeah shout out the iowa barnstormers but they so my agent goes go out there like play for a few weeks stay in shape in case the nfl calls and i was like all right bet so i get out there i'm drive out to devoid iowa and i get there and like i'm i already think i'm on the team and i get out there

and it's a 13 man try out for two spots for like to end out the season so i'm like well let's Try. To end out the season of an arena football team. Yep. So I get there and it's 13-man tryout, end up making the team, me and one other kid. And so out there getting paid $300 a week before taxes to play football. Dude, some of the most fun football I've ever played in my life, though. So much fun fun.

Is that just because it's just like, it's just freedom, it's like you playing high school ball again? Dude, I was playing this Jack linebacker position where I started on the short side of the field. And my only job is that you check run and then you run horizontal and hit anybody of any other. the other team's color and you're smashing dudes into walls like you're you're launching dudes over the wall there's people pouring beer on you like I'm talking more shit to the fans and I'm talking to the players is so much fun phenomenal so what were the fans like are they just like trying to drag you a little bit everybody's chirping you and like there's people like on dates it's just it's like

it's a cool environment because you can hear and then like there's people right behind your bench talking the whole time so it was fun it was a good experience and then for 300 bucks for 300 bucks a week and I mean they they covered like an extended stay too so like it's like we'll call like an even 700 a week but uh so then went went back state like it was working and training in Chicago still and then my agent got me a try out with the UFO so I went out with the Omaha nighthawks uh shout out Nebraska yeah shout out Nebraska I think there were some of the boys that were out there playing on the Omaha nighthawks yeah I can the only like Maurice Claret was there for a couple days and like that was the last I heard of him but he uh but anyways like

went out on a tryout made the team came back to Chicago for a week then went back out for training camp and at that time so went through training camp had a good training camp and then NFL had their cuts they picked up all the loose NFL guys so cut half the roster I was out of there crushed thought like my football career was over because my agent wasn't saying shit and then I came back to Chicago like kind of kept training my agent was just like we don't want to go to Canada because you have to sign a two-year deal. I like I said, I was like, I want to play football and get back to NFL. So he sends out lines his CFL contacts and NFL again.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, slow down. So how long were you in the arena circuit? Like, you're still kind of in it right now, right? No, no, no. So arena's done. Arena was like four or five weeks. So what point of the year is arena playing? I think that was June.

So like then. So you're in June about to go into the new NFL training game. So like the next season. So I guess it was July. No. So July. So my rookie, so that was 2012, I came out. Yeah.

And so, yeah, so probably July and then whenever cuts are in football, August. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, so it's probably middle of July to August. And now because then, yeah, so then there's a week, week or 10 day break before the UFL. I was in the UFL for two weeks. NFL had their cuts, wash the board.

So now NFL is starting. I'm hearing nothing from NFL or CFL. And the CFL is wrapping up their season. and CFL is a summer league. Okay. So my agent gets crickets. I go, dude, give me everybody's emails,

all email them from my perspective. So I email, say, hey, Brian Peters, I'll be a dog for you. It's trash when I look back at it. And I still got the email too.

So I read it every now and then for like juice. But, yeah. Read it every now and like juice. Yeah, like yeah. So just the like motivate me like made shit happen once I can do it again kind of deal. And then,

so I email all the CFL guys, all the NFL guys. team response to scatchewan rough riders like i had my highlight tape and crap on there and then like y'all be a dog for you check the tape yeah yeah check the tape's below yeah check the tape yeah you want to check tape what movie's that that's a i don't know couples retreat you want to check tape yeah yeah yeah yeah we're talking about fullback being like a being like a all state high school fullback yeah but uh so that anyways um Saskatchewan rough riders responded and they responded to me so they never they never even talked to my agent at the time so they said hey yeah come up we'll

throw you on practice squad and you can sign a deal after that So I was like bet. So I talked to my agent. He negotiated my contract really quick, which was their minimum, and then went up there. We should have shown Canadian highlights right now. Oh, here we go, Brian Peters, 2014 defensive highlights. You'll see some linebacker, some safety on here. I did a little bit of everything up there.

I see. Just getting nasty. A little bit. Oh, you go? Daddy got in there. Daddy got in there. I love that. But anyway, so I went up there and then this is where like this is where I started getting seared to Dr. Serrano.

So I got, how old are you? Me, I'm 25, 26. Okay. I'm 25 about to turn 26 and 26 is a death birthday for me. So I go up there. I'm on their practice squad for a couple weeks and I signed my two year contract. So this is for 13, 14. And so the day I get back is a Thursday.

It's my birthday, Halloween. So I get back and like one of my birthdays on Halloween. My birthday's on Halloween. We're a big spooktober podcast. Ooh, big, like, big spooktover guy. Okay, good. Big, yeah, dress up party for the birthday kind of guy. But I get back and my buddy, Jeremy Ebert, just got cut by the Patriots.

And so he was in town. He's got money in his pocket. He goes, let's go out for your birthday, dude. He was my college roommate for four years. And so we go out from all my other buddies couldn't make it out because they'd work the next day. So me and him go out. We get rowdy. And I end up getting jumped by three bouncers.

So I get like, yeah. What'd you do? Like, yeah, I ended up getting jumped by three bouncers. It sounds dramatic, but what did you do? Yeah, it was not, like, it was not uninstigated. But no, so, all right, so like, I like to dance when I go out. I was preface with that. So we're at this bar.

I know the DJ at the bar. It's in Columbus. And I'm dancing on stage with some girls. Having a great time. Bouncer comes over, weighs me down. He goes, no guys dance on stage. I go, all right. So, I ain't no fucking dudes, man. Come on.

Yeah. So I jumped down off stage and like I proceed to like walk to the bar, grabs my arm, pulls me back. He goes, no, you're out of here, dude. And I go for dancing on stage, obviously I give him a little, little attitude. And he, uh, and it ends up kicking me out. I go peacefully. I was like, just don't grab my arm. Like I go out peacefully. And I'm not rocked, rocked at this point. So. And at this time, these, there's three bars that are connected by inside door. So I go into another bar and I walk back into the bar and join my people. This goes on for a few more hours. The boys are drinking and drinking. And we get to the point where I'm buying shots at the bar. And pretty sauced up, got like my buddy and a group of girls with us. And I'm ordering shots. People start to grab the shots as I'm buying them.

And like I turn around and we don't have enough shots. So I start politely arguing with the bartender. Politely arguing. I was like, man, we don't have enough shots. And she goes, yeah, we do. Like you're just being drunk, which I was. And then she waves over the. Bouncer, same bouncer that kicked me out the first time.

And so I'm, so I'm dressed as it's Halloween. I'm dressed as Batman. And he goes, oh, Batman's back. He goes, Batman's back. And so anyways, this time they don't take me out the front door. Him and two other bouncer escort me out the back door. He, my buddy at the time, he sees me arguing with these bouncer at the back door. He runs over.

He goes, we're leaving guys, we're leaving guys. And then he goes, I'm calling our ride. We're out of here. So he goes out the back door first, and the back doors connects Alley to the street. And then so, and then more so there's security cam footage of this too. But so I turn around and I try and get the last word with the bouncers. Didn't work out my way. What's the last word?

No clue. Your boy was a little great out at this point. But like so give the last word, walk out. And then next thing I know someone's trying to rear naked me from behind, I turn into some punches. I'm down on the ground. I'm out. My buddy runs back, like jumps, push the guys off, guys go back inside. But so we get in the car.

And luckily his cousin that was picking us up is that they knock you out cold. Yeah. Like I was TKOed. I was down. And there's footage of this. My buddy turns around and said, saw me getting stomped out. And yeah. So I got like I got cut to my head.

Nobody wanted to save Batman did. Yeah. Batman's back. But so like that's where again, another time where I thought football was gone too. But so we get in the car and like his cousins in dental school and like checks me out. My teeth are moving. My jaw is moving. My jaw's broke.

So I go to the hospital. and end up getting surgery that night. On your jaw? On my jaw. So I have a plate and seven screws in my jaw and they uprooted a bunch of teeth. So I have like I have like 10 fake teeth on the bottom. Like I had a flipper. Like the whole time in Canada I had flip out teeth.

So everybody like I told everybody was a hockey player. Oh, that sucks. You got fake teeth. Yeah. So you legit get fucking like. I get wrecked. I get fucked. Yeah.

I spend I spend seven weeks. wired shut, 30 hours in the dentist chair, like that kind of stuff. But, but so that night, so like, obviously, like, I'm seared with Dr. Serrano a little bit at this point. And my mom calls him at, like, three in the morning, says, hey, Brian got jumped. Like, he needs, like, surgery tonight. That kind of thing. Sorano calls this doctor, this oral surgeon. She comes in from like two hours away at three in the morning and do the surgery, kills it. I have any problems like that kind of thing. But like at the time, like, they're like, your mandibles are cracked really weird, all this stuff like you might you might not be able to play football again so I'm like fuck like I'm like I did

this to myself are you still in the Batman costume no I did not wake up in the Batman costume they let me go into surgery like that but um but so anyways uh wake up like I like I spend like a week on the couch I'm I drop 15 20 pounds really fast I'm sipping liquid percocet like a juice box um and Dr. Serrano comes over and he goes like get off your ass you pussy and so like so I'm over there fucking love surrounding. Yeah, he's a man. And he, like, he cares more than anybody, which is really cool. Like, he, like, he's, he's a tough dude, but he cares.

So I started training with him for the last six weeks. I was wired shut. And by the end of that six weeks, I was, uh, shit, I was almost up to, like, linebacker weight. So I gained more weight than I lost. I was, the strongest I've ever been. Because, like, but I was, I mean, I was drinking everything. Like, I was, dude, I was blending up steaks.

I was blending up cookies. I was blending up Chipotle. So, like, my diet was, like, three liter. cups and I was just drinking my entire diet and made it happen and supplements and everything. But bananas. So yeah, it's super crazy. But anyways, uh, from there, that's fucking nuts. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I did, I did it to myself. I got your boy got a little too crazy and well, yeah, yeah, for sure. But still didn't deserve that shit. Yeah. Like nobody's going to be, you know, blending up steaks and Chipotle and thinking about getting their way back. Yeah.

And so like kind of at this point now, um, like I like I got, I kept trying to be training with them and that kind of thing. And then eventually went back and did Northwesterns Pro Day the following year. And I was switching to Linebacker at this point now. I was going to go play some linebacker safety in Canada. And since I didn't get a shot at safety, I'm going to try and play linebacker because I know I can play. And so I go to the Pro Day. I run faster, jump higher. Like, all my numbers are better, even though I gained 20 pounds. So, and that's where, like, now, like, I see the relationship between the leg strength, the supplements, all these things. So I start to go and like I started to get like addicted to the to the gym and to like bettering myself and chasing these edges to be to just to be better and get the shot that I wanted.

So I go up to Canada and Loki I got cut from Canada and they put me on P Squad for a little bit. And then in the story. So the only reason I got active the first time in Canada. So in Canada, football fields longer and wider. And the field goal is on the goal line. So this one of our other like our weak side linebacker was covering this post route. and runs into the field goal and breaks his collarbone. And so I get an opportunity to be active and start eating on special teams up there. And eventually earn the starting spot on defense, play another year up there,

and get the opportunity to come back to the NFL with the Vikings. But that was a whole another mess in and of itself because I get back. Or sorry, I'm at home after my contract. And the rough riders call me and say, hey, who's your agent? Because they don't remember because I initially, I initially made the contact. Yeah. So anyways, they're like, like the, the Eagles and the Saints want to work you out.

So I was like, all right, cool, like put them in touch with my agent. I work out for the teams, but I work out for the Eagles first, have a really good workout. And they do your blood work and x-rays and all that kind of stuff at the workouts. And they go, hey, something's wrong with your blood work. It's probably a lab error. But go get your blood work tested again sent to us. and I'm with Serrano. So I was like, Doc, like, they say I have low blood platelets.

And I go, I don't know what that means. And he goes, oh, shit. He goes, like low blood plates usually means cancer and all these kind of crazy things. So we'll go get a ton of test done. But eventually I find out I have this rare blood condition called ITP, idiotrombocytopinia. Unexplained low blood platelets. I'm going to say that again. Idiotrombocytopinia.

But it's just unexplained low blood platelets. And like, so basically. Yeah. So, yeah. But so, but so, but basically like, I'm very. susceptible to like gunshots and stab ones i'll probably die if i get shot or stabbed a lot of people would yeah yeah so i'm very susceptible to gunshots yeah a lot of us are we interrupt this episode to bring you a message from better help the best way to think about therapy is through a bunch of analogies

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eventually i got to the i found out enough about it down the road once because i so like i made the mistake of going to the saints for the next workout and i killed the next workout like ran high four five like shuttled like in the like six seven again like three cone shuttle that kind of thing like good workout i had their pro personnel guy terry fontno like saying hey we're gonna sign you i was like bet like i'm i got a shot in the NFL and then he goes but we got to get but you have this blood thing we got to get that figured out like we've never had this before so like he's like we'll link you with our hematologist our blood doctor and we'll figure it out don't hear anything for them for a few weeks and the CFL starts calling their free agency opened and so

up there like the money goes fast so like basically every day of free agency up there i'm losing like 10 grand a day if i'm going back to the cfl my agent can't get a hold to anybody in uh new orleans so and i have this other agent call me asking me about my contract in there because he's got another guy that's negotiating we're trying to drive the price up all the stuff anyways like this agent was like more speaking my language my other agent wasn't doing shit so i fired the other agent um which i should have done years before but um and so he gets me in touch with the saints gets me flown down there, but they're going to have me sign an injury waiver

where if I don't, if I don't heal on any, like any injury, concussion, pulled hamstring, sprained finger, whatever. I don't heal on their timeline.

They can cut me without pay, no injury settlements and that kind of stuff, which was trash. So that agent was like, no. And we're still talking to them. And then I switched agents and that agent got me three workouts in 24 hours.

So that's the first time I was like, oh, agents do kind of matter. Yeah, they do matter. Like their connections matter. And then a couple of days later, I worked out,

the Vikings, then tell them about my blood condition. They never even noticed in my blood work and that kind of thing. Had a good offseason with them. Love Minneapolis. Really cool locker room up there. They put me on P Squad. How old are you now? I'm 26.

It's a shit show of the story. But I'm 26. All this happens from the moment you get slept on your birthday. Yeah, 23 to 25. Yeah, yeah. Jesus. So anyway, so I get to Minnesota. And that's where I link up my guy, Harvey, who we have the Mindstrong Project.

with now the breathing company but um so i'm there link with him but uh they put me on peace squad i was on peace squad there for three weeks and like and then on like a tuesday i'm at like a charity event for the viking and i get a call and my agent said hey the texans want to sign you um go to the airport and like i have a flight in three and a half hours like i hustle home leave my car there all that kind of stuff and hang on so you made that you uh you were in viking's training camp no i was like uh i was in Vikings training camp and they put me on practice squad. Right. So when the season, when three seasons gets done, they cut you and put you on

practice squad. You're there for the first three weeks. Yep. Which season is this? 2015. 2015 season. And then in three weeks, your agent calls, Texans want you to sign active. Yep.

With them. Yep. All right. And so, and the kind of, the little dance I went through here now is if somebody signed you off practice squad, they have to keep you active for three games to give you an accredited season. And so however much money that equates to, but the Vikings want me to stay there too.

So they offered me full salary guaranteed to stay there for the whole year on practice squad. And they said they'd get me up as soon as they could to active roster. So I'm sitting at the airport trying to make the decision whether to stay for half a mill or go and play three games for whatever 20K game or whatever it equates to. And so I'm sitting there trying to make decision. I have equity build up there. The coaches know me, whatever.

Same story with all those guys. For everybody listening to, like when you're on P-Squod and you're like a, you're a solid player that they know can potentially develop or get activated for them, but they know they can hide you on practice squad until somebody finds you. That's essentially what happened with Brian is the Texas decided, you know, we want this kid. Now the Vikings have to, now Brian has leverage to leave. So what they would do is offer that salary style pay so you can play like you're on the

active roster but stay on practice squad. And then they'll throw everything in the tool shit at you, you be like, you know, you have a good reputation here. You have good relationships here. we'll get you up as soon as we can. Like it's all, it's all negotiating. It's all like mind games. Yeah, but it's empty promises.

Correct. Yes. And so I got to the point where one of my buddies hit me with a line that was just a switch for me. I called Dan Percy as a quarterback at Northwestern with me. And he goes, dude, you spent three years and three different leagues to play in the NFL, not practice in the NFL. I was like, yeah, let's right. I'm on the plane.

And so I've been talking to my mom and my brother and my buddies and that kind of thing during this whole deal. and I get on the plane and my parents call me and they're like you know what, me and your dad talked we think you should stay in Minnesota I was like,

I was like, dad, I'm on the plane they're like, okay, like we're more conservative you than you anyways like good luck so I go down there start playing week four down there and put together like a great season

I led to NFL and special teams tackles with 12 games played so like I like got their kind of like their special team yeah, got their attention, got leverage and like did,

Leverages everything in the NFL. Like, I mean, how many times did you have leverage on a team to know, like, yeah, they're going to sign me back or know that you're adding enough value that they're going to keep you? Right. Like the injury waiver stuff was the same situation I've explained before on the podcast. But when I went and tried out for Oakland and they wanted to sign me, they had an injury waiver sitting in front of me being like if anything on my, like, my right leg, anything on my right leg gets damaged, they can cut me, wash their hands,

not have to rehab me, not have to pay for any surgery. If I tore my ACL, they don't have to pay for it. They can just cut me and do away with it. And I was able to be like, you know, I don't want to do that. Like, I'm going to leave. Do you mind get me a flight back to Nashville? Like, yeah, we can get that set up for you. I'm sorry, it didn't work out.

20 minutes later, they walked back in. Like, hey, May out comes in. Hey, he's like, hey, if we do away with this injury waiver, would you sign? I'm like, yeah, he's like, let's make it happen. So it's just crazy how that kind of stuff works. Like, if you have a little bit of leverage or a little bit of anything, it's, you know, it's everything. Yeah. Like, life isn't negotiating.

too. Oh, guaranteed. But even that, like, I mean, yeah, they're protecting themselves

and they're making their business decisions and that kind of thing, but at the same time, like. They were trying to tell me, Will is on, uh,

Will's taking Indusin, an anti-inflammatory. And, you know, that, that raises eyebrows for us. And I had just sprained my ankle and got an injury settlement

with the saints during preseason. So I'm like, yeah, I'm on it because I spray my ankle. And aside from that, everyone in the fucking locker room is on anti-inflammatory.

And you guys are going to give it to me anyway. if I say I don't have it because my agent call, he's like, why would you tell them that? I'm like, because it doesn't matter to me. Why wouldn't I just let them know, hey, like, you know, I'm doctoring my ankle a little bit and I'm still on stuff. And he's like, you know, you can hurt yourself. That's why they want to put the injury settlement. It's like, well, all right.

It doesn't, like, it doesn't matter to me. Yeah. So now you're fighting fire that you want me to lie to them. So like, it's just. When we're all doing it anyway. Yeah. Like everyone down in the locker is on anti-implimentary. It's unable to hell out of it.

Like the, I mean, like, they're starting to tighten up the tort all and all that kind of stuff. But, like, like, anti-inflammatories are a problem. Oh, 100%. That doesn't mean I'll ever stop doing them during the season. Because they get me through the season. Like, they get me through playing football. Yeah, for sure. But so you started like counterbalancing that with like the peptides and stuff too, didn't you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the BPC-1-57 because that helps with like a leaky gut. I've talked about before. It actually introduced it talking on the Amir podcast. I felt a little queasy talking about it because the way. he was explaining how he learned about it, seeing the needles and everything else. And I was kind of like, you know, dabbling, educating a little bit on it because you just don't want people to think like you're doing something. Yeah, for sure.

But yeah, like having the peptides with it as well to help with the leaky gut and anything that those anti-inflammatories can cause like in your gut lining. Because that's essentially what happens is it tears up your insides. Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah. Like the bleeding that goes on inside. Like it sounds way worse. And I feel like it actually, you know, I don't know. I don't want to make people think we're dying the inside out.

but, you know, it destroys your gut a little bit. Yeah, for sure. Just for, yeah, I'm full, you know, I'll be on anti-inflammatories. Like, anytime you're about to play, like, Torado, like, yeah, you're trying to get Toradole. Yeah. Like, you know, guys who, you know, I knew of dudes who would take, like, two Toradoll before a game started, and then another one at halftime. For sure.

I mean, they hand them to you at half time. Yeah. Yeah. That stuff will never stop. They'll make it look better as they should. Like, but at the end of the day, like, you know, if you're, if you're, if you're playing and you're trying to continue to play. and make the team and put out good tape and good film like yeah go to my fucking system dude done deal

well well scrape me off the field bro yeah which is which is the vibe but like so like but what caught up to me with that blood condition too is they wouldn't give me any anti-inflammatories because like because i already have thin blood they don't want the yeah yeah yeah yeah so i didn't get that luxury so like i was just so you're out there natural all that you're white already behind the eight ball just shot there like just being cut everywhere in the Canadian League, the arena team, fucking finally getting your shot and you can't even get on the, you can't even get on the stuff that makes you feel good. Yeah, no, they couldn't even do like PRP on me and stuff like that.

So I was always doing stem cells whenever I needed it and that kind of things for those injuries. Damn. Yeah. So are you always checking, like, checking your blood work like doing. Yeah, a decent amount. Like, I mean, I do it kind of quarterly anyway for my, yeah, for my hormone levels and like my vitamin deficiencies to like just make sure I'm balanced and that kind of thing.

But, like, yeah, they always do a CBC on me, which just, like, checks, like, red, white and your platelets and that kind of thing. And mine stay low. But, like, but the crazy thing, like, I think it was kind of, like, fate or whatever. But the, the, once the Texans found out my second year, like, obviously, I didn't tell them about it once they signed me. Right. But in the second year, right, yeah, obviously. But going into the second year is when you've led the NFL in special teams tackles, now you're going into the second with the Texans. Yeah.

And, like, trying to establish myself as, like, a niche player. And, like, so I had, like, raves down. there that's like saying we need like special teams guys we need somebody to take some ownership of special team street rats yeah yeah gritty yeah just great yeah just great fucking street rats dude yeah and so like that that was my niche like that's what like i did that like wholeheartedly like whatever you whatever you do be good at it like that was my like that was my thing down there initially but like so they find the blood the blood condition and but like literally like the world renowned specialist and and my blood condition is based in that massive medical compound in houston so so i go over there and

He's doing all these, like, he's doing, like, organ imaging and things like that. And then he, like, breaks down my blood to, like, a whole other level than all these other blood tests we're doing. He goes, actually, like, you have blood playlists. They're just crazy small. Like, your spleen beats them up, but you still have blood playlets. And he goes, I used to tell people with ITP that you, like, you can't play football or ride motorcycles and that kind of thing. But now I just got to tell them you can only not ride motorcycles because now we got what an outlier. A example of playing football.

An outlier. At a high level. Yeah. So that was cool. But anyways. But yeah, so did four years down in Houston. And that was the wrap. And I've been,

I've been trying to knock on doors and adapt. Get back in the league. Oh, by any means necessary. Just get back in the league. Your boy's taking up long snapping. I'm doing anything and everything. Yeah. Yeah.

And we'll get you a video too, Blas the show to show a little bit. Now, come on. Now we've got to get the pub, baby. I'll take all I can get it. So you were with Houston. Before we get there, you were with Houston for four years.

Yep. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. What year did you become the captain? Not so my last year, technically. We didn't really have like consistent captains the first couple years. Would you say that's one of your better like achievements or. Oh, no doubt. One of your favorite awards accomplished?

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Like just being a captain in general, like I think everybody takes leadership differently too. Like you don't like you can be a leader. You don't have to be a captain and that kind of thing too. But no, like I mean just to go like I wasn't supposed to be in the NFL anyways. I wasn't supposed to get out of the ring the league. Like, I want, like, three or four people get out of the CFL every year, like, that kind of stuff. I just beat the odds everywhere. And, like, that's where, like, the chasing edges mindset comes in. Like, once I knew I could play or every time I got cut, I found three, four new things to take on and learn and add to the, add to my ability or, like, my tool belt or whatever.

And eventually they stacked up and got, got me the opportunity. So I think I enjoyed it. Like, I was grateful for the opportunity a little more than other guys because went through, went to, scenic route with it yeah yeah um after your four years what year what year was your last jindily you you're on you've been out for one full year now two years dude yeah i've been out for a minute so you're going on your this is good this will be the third season coming up yeah yeah so it's been it's been it's been a minute so i did so shit flies because i remember i was hanging in vandy when you came through vandy and we were both fucking on the couch yeah but

the boys are still eating the boys are training hard yeah uh because brian it came to one did you come to the tailgate one of those bus and tailgates Yeah, but you guys were wrapping up. We just finished because he was, we were hanging out. We did like, you know, some fat arm, like an arm workout with a little dober. Yeah. Over at Vandy. But man, it's been a couple years.

But you are now trying to get back in through long snapping. Yep. Explain the long snapping route. Well, so I've always been like a backup long snapper. So like my high school, D.C., he had like a cup of coffee with some NFL teams of the snapper. So he taught all of us in high school how to snap. So I was the backup at North Carolina. Um, oh shit, yeah, the YouTube video. We're showing the tape now. Come on. I love it. But, um, we need to get updated tapes. But, uh, that's not the, that's not the tape on everybody to check. But anyway, we'll have the right tapes rolling for you. Blosson get you right. We're straight. But so I actually up in the CFL, uh, our long snapper had an AC joint. So I snapped for four games in the CFL. Um, and then in Houston, uh, John Weeks had a hamstring one of the preseason game. So I snapped for a preseason. So I snapped for a preseason. Um, so I snapped for a preseason.

season and game. So I've always just kind of been the emergency guys, been like a back pocket dabbled and snapping. Yeah, I mean, like it adds value like, oh, the kids hustle linebacker and then he also can be our emergency snapper. Maybe that's like the breaking point to keep me on a roster. So I mean, you know it is. Yeah, for sure. People always make those little side comments like, hey, you really want to play in the league and last in the league like pick up long snapping. Oh, for sure. Because you got these puds that'll be long snappers. You know, no disrespect to the long snappers. But you'll be having guys run down the field after snapping a ball to go and punt. It's just like, all right.

You got the punter and the long snapper. They don't necessarily count. There's nine guys a block on the field. Yeah. And then so like that's where like Luke Rhodes with Indy is a linebacker converted long snap or whatever. And he like he's been eating. I think he was all pro last year. And so like the special teams coach with the Texans was part of that transition.

So like that's one of the contacts. And then like I know a lot of special teams coaches around that I'm sending tape to and that kind of thing playing the game. So you're back to the grind to the emails. I was going to say you're back to the emails. I'm a dog. Yeah. Check the snap tape. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'll match my physical fitness against any long snapper in the league any day of a week. Yeah. Yeah. And if you do, like, I don't see why you potentially wouldn't get a shot because you can actually cover. For sure.

But it is a crazy skill. Like the mastery of like hitting the hip every time on a long snap. Right. I'm not saying anybody can snap. No, by no means. I'm taking into account watching your your tape. Like, I mean, if you continue to work on this, like, why wouldn't Yeah, that's what I'm...

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. That's what the boys are having to. Dude, do you know I kicked off in the game, too? No way. Yeah, so this is a crazy... You're just flexing all over the bus right now, but go ahead. This is a crazy friggin' story, too. So we're going against the Vikings.

This was... Larry Isso was my special team's coach. It was his first year. And we were playing the Vikings who had Cordero Patterson, who's obviously a dog, absolute dog returner. And so I'm the R5. And, like, We're trying to plan like an onside kick.

So like, hey, he's like, he goes, the, he goes, the R5. Can you come across the ball and like chip shot it over there? It's like, yeah. So I kick it. He goes, can you pooch it over there? Pooch it over there. He goes, can you kick it deep? I go, yeah, coach, I kicked in high school.

And so. You need the tape? Yeah. So this is on a, this is on a Friday. It's like on like the like the fast Friday. So I, um, so I kick off and I reach the, the end zone on like this like my first kick. And he goes, do it again. So I kick it to the end zone again.

And then he comes up to me after practice. He goes, I'm going to run this by coach. You want to kick off on Sunday? I go, hell yeah, let's go. And then so he's hyped me up because Wes Welker kicked off for a few games back when he's with the dolphins. He goes, dude, Wes had three tackles a game. He goes, you just get a rover, play linebacker after the first wave of guys.

I was like, all right, let's go. And so then it comes, this is where it gets crazy where now it comes to game day. I'm super pumped. And I was like, hey, coach, should I go out and warm up? like that kind of thing is not like you didn't want him practice we're good like this is a surprise like we're like and like so he's like scheme and he's like he's he's a little scatterbraim he's the he's the man like he's like he's like a player's coach once you like once you cover in and playing fast he's a stud coach so I don't want to dogg on him at all but he uh he goes here I got it he goes we'll

set up a ball as you guys run out to uh run out for the start of the game you get a warm up kick then ball hit somewhere nobody know where it came from I was like coach that's ridiculous I'm not doing that but like well that's ride but so anyway so first kickoff. I kind of I didn't I didn't kick it great but it like like goes crazy and lands on like the end line and we tackle one side of the 20 so and um and then the the second kick off um he goes he goes you can pooch it right like he is a un directional kick it was like yeah coached it was a first team off day I can make it rain out here yeah and uh so so I go to put the ball wherever you want but so I pooch kick it like it lands I think it's like the eight nine yard line with some height to it like a pro

but I tear my quad on the second kick and so I like I like limped down kicking like swinging your leg to kick it yeah on that lockout I pop my rectus femurus that muscle on the top oh so I pop my quad and so I'm out for like four or five weeks of that that was a tough injury to come back from

because the tough like the only people that hurt this muscle are like Olympic sprinters and kickers like but so yeah so that's my kicking story so I've done the special teams gig So I'm for the brand. I'm a Pat McAfee guy. I'm fucking love that, dude.

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But yeah, back to the episode. I fucking love that. Shit. Yeah, so there's a bunch of... Have you, you don't have any teams, but have you had any success showing anybody your long snapping tape? Yeah, I had one workout.

Said the skills there. Just needs a little more fine. So you've had a workout? I've had a workout. Yeah. Let's fucking go. Yeah. For the boys.

Yeah. So how do you feel? Like what is your head tell you? Because what I'm like what I'm thinking about is all right, if I've been out of the league for two years. Yeah. You think it's dead. Yeah. I'm starting to think, all right.

Do I need to start putting my energy and my focus and, you know, the stuff off the field? Do I need to just fucking put football? to bed and go all in with this stuff and stop hanging on to the dream like hey i'm trying to get back into the league you know what i mean yeah um like what's what's going on through your head now like what's in your headspace now for sure like and i and i've tried to put football to sleep a few times um i uh i do actually so actually we left the league out i've been in five leagues i went to the xFL for oh that's right that was the best dude uh do you have that video what video where i i remember you because you got signed and you practice a couple of practice yeah you did an interview and what did you say you're

like yeah I'm just ready to you know bust a couple heads and put some tape back out yeah like I'm coming back I said something like there's an interview with the XFL and it's like an XFL fashion interview he's like you know I'm just ready to like bust some heads and get back out on the field I might be hyping it up too much but it was something along those lines yeah it was something I got I got it somewhere on my Twitter or something I'll get it queued up for you guys and then you say that interview and then it all the XFL goes a shit well so like it was in full XFL fashion too um I was gonna say it's a little XFL fashion too um I was gonna start my first game because the starting lineback before that threw a massive right hook at the running back so he was suspended for the first half just a shit show but so yeah you show up and then like so we're

we're like heading to the bus to go play New York and Trump shuts everything down and so then the league folds and so like I steal tape from that and send the like the practice tape out whatever that look like I've sent out some ridiculous tape over the years I love the fucking commitment you're sending

practice tape out. Oh, dude, I need some. Well, like the big, oh, dude, I have this whole other agent story because I flipped agents after my last year. Hang on. Before you get into that. You said you tried five other leagues since the- No, I've been in five leagues.

Like, I was thinking about this other day. Arena, UFL, CFL, NFL, NFL, NFL, XFL. Like, there's, like, what, I just need Mexico to have open up a league now. I'll go down there, too. Like, fuck, dude. Yeah. Um, I mean, it's like a fucking movie. It's ridiculous.

You can make a movie out of that story. We might need to cut that out. We might need to edit this out and do our own thing. Just getting the tank. Just getting the shark thing, the think tank. If Mark Wahlberg can have invincible, you know what I'm saying? We can create some heat now. What actor is going to play me?

You. Oh, fuck. The way you're hanging on, the way you still doing it. Like, you're a safe fucking look at you. Yeah, that's right. I show them, like, as I say, look at you. Drop a picture or drop a photo of its Instagram, like when I say that for the fucking thing. But who would you want to play you?

if you could have anybody play you. Ooh. You're right, right, right. McConahead would be tight. I'll take a Jason Momoe with the long hair. Yeah, some people try to tell me I look like the other Hemsworth's brother at one point when I had shorter hair. Liam? Yeah, so it was trash.

That's all right. I mean, I'll take what I can get, yeah. I think he pulls, so. It's a good. So good. It's a good comparison to the half, dude. Who's the person that people say That the actor that looks like me

Is the dude from Jurassic Park Guardians of the Galaxy Oh Chris Pratt Do you guys think that People think People think fuck no And people think like Oh I can see it

I think more Ryan Reynolds I think Yeah That's the bullshit Garrett just smiles like this motherfucker dude Oh shit Chris Pratt a little bit it's just like the facial hair

yeah i mean i'd take him listen yeah i'd fucking take chris proud in the heartbeat he can play yeah he can personality goes punch for punch yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah goes punch for punch it takes a lot of jokes on to the chin yeah but um no pause

it counts though um what we're talking about I fuck I don't know we went on a nice tangent hey get that fucking like yeah oh we were like do we still want this side The saga of Brian Peters to continue with the agent deal, too.

That was a whole shit show. Wait, is it now? This is a new agent. And like I wanted like a little bit bigger agent, a little more greasy guy because I had no leverage because my last year I played hurt. Like I shot my ankle. I took 30 shots to the ankle my last season. Like 30 shots of the ankle. What we talking about here?

Cortone. Yeah. So like, so I can, I really couldn't like feel my foot like the last 10 games I played in the NFL because like, like, so they misdiagnosed me. They said, like, I tore my deltoid ligament on the inside that I could play three weeks later. And we lost three linebackers to injury. So, like, I had a chance to start and play on defense, which I hadn't had in an NFL yet. So hustled back for this Broncos game. Hey, Braves your coach?

Is Rape your linebacker coach? No, Braves is gone. This is 2018. He's here with the Titans now. So nestled in him with the Titans. I'm sure he would just drug you in those linebacker meetings. Oh, for real. Yeah.

He's, uh, oh, yeah, dude. I got some brave stories too. But, um, but anyways. we all do yeah it's all good if you know variable you have a story even if you're a stranger and you see them on the street

you have a story but um no so like the deltois on the inside of the ankle but all my pain was on the outside and I kept telling my trainers my pain's on the outside I have no pain on the inside

like all that's just inflammation rolling over so but I end up so I end up playing 10 weeks on half an ankle that once they got in for like eventually my calf tore from overcompensating for my ankle and I got they got in for surgery

and I had this conjure lesion I had this cartilage torn off the bone. And so I was playing with that the whole damn time. But anyway, so. You shoot quarter zone in it. Yeah. Which is dumb as shit. Yeah.

Yeah. Terrible. Yeah. This is a terrible idea. Just a band-aid. Yeah. Exactly. Coorzone's like the worst thing you can do.

Yeah. And then like I'm getting stem cells going to get to the PRP and that kind of thing. But anyway, so like I knew I had no leverage. Like I'm coming off my worst season. Like you know, you can't play special teams if you don't have 100% in the tank. Like I had, I was running like 90% of top speed, 95, whatever. But you, but you, like, you, get buried if you don't have top speed to agility.

So I didn't put out good tape regardless of the point. Yeah. Let me tell my story. That's the story I tell myself. I was going to say it's not like you need insane top speed to be out there and play. Example being right. Yeah. But anyways, so I switched agents.

I wanted, because the last deal I got for my last one year deal, I wasn't ecstatic about it. And so I was like, all right, I need someone more contacts this time around and trying to get the deal. So this guy sold me. I had met him through one of my Northwestern buddies and probably my least favorite human. So I'm going to try and like temper myself a little bit. But so he tells, this new agent. This new agent.

So he tells me all these things like he can do for me that gives me a timeline for like when we think we're going to get signed, what conversation is going to have. And so I hold him accountable to these things like, hey, like, combine's over. Like where your conversation's at? And he's like, he's like saying like Tennessee and other things where like like like I didn't think Braves was a massive fan of me. so I didn't think he was going to try and get me there or anything like that. So I was like, let's work on other avenues. And then like I'm, so I call him like two, three times a week sometimes.

They're saying, hey, what's up? Like anything happening. Like not big conversations. And then eventually like one of his other guys fires him and I was cool with him. So we were talking. And then at one point, like I was like, hey, what's going on? Like you said like we'd have like opportunities by now. And I didn't give him a lot to work with.

So like in hindsight, maybe I wasn't the best client either. But he goes, if you want to. to fire me too, go ahead. And I go, I'm not trying to fire you. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And so we have this conversation. It was a real rough conversation. And then like the next time we talked, I ended up firing him and going back to my old agent. But did this conversation, what this agent was out of control. He goes, he goes, you're a Northwestern guy. Like, you're supposed to be high character. Everybody's going to know you have terrible character now, now that you fired me. He goes, I'm going to know forever. Like, he goes, if you become the CEO,

of FedEx. He goes, I'm going to know that you still have, you're a terrible person. You have terrible character. Like, just lays into me. I was like, listen, dude, like, I'm not trying to like make this a thing. Like, if like, you've obviously worked for me, I'll pay you for your time. And that kind of thing. He goes, he goes, I don't want your money. He goes, he goes, I've been in this league or this business for 14 years. You're going to need the money more than I do. Blah, blah, blah. Just goes hand. Is he still an agent to this day? Yeah, he's still an agent in this day. Ed Waziluski. I love it. Let's fucking go. Yeah. So, but anyways, that was a, yeah, that was no, no, no, but.

Anyways, switch back to my agent, got some calls, got a few workouts worked out for the Saints. But things didn't work out. I think we were at the same workout. Oh, wait, no, no, no. You worked out before or after me. You might have worked out after. I think you worked out after me. Yeah, this was like week three.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe for your spot. Oh, I think, yeah, I forget who the linebackers were because I know when I got hurt, that's when the Saints had traded for Kiko Alonzo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you were there with like, who was Mark Barron? Was Mason Foster there?

No, I never made the team. Like I just worked out. Right, but I'm saying at the workout. No, no, no. Oh, got you. No, this was, uh, Ray, Ray Armstrong was there. Ray, Ray Armstrong. That's right.

Yeah, that's right. And he signed on it. It was like week two or three or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so that's my last. What juicy stories you got about Billy O? Billy O. Oh, wow.

That's a. Annie, you can tell? Um, I mean, there's not like a, it's not like, uh, there's not like crazy stories by any means like he he's a he's a tough coach but he's like he's fair in the same sense like where he just always i think got wired up to play the patriots and that kind of thing that's where my favorite stories are like when he like when he'd come in and like try and impersonate tom brady's cadence like he'd come in like on the stage of the defensive room and start goes listen tom does all this stuff he goes when he points he doesn't mean he's pointing

sometimes and like he goes through like all tom's cadences and just goes ham so he got wired up for the patriots games and that kind of thing but But other than that, there's not too many crazy stories. Like me and him weren't crazy tight or anything like that. Like I was his guy early because I was productive. And then my production dropped off. I won his guy, which is what have you done for me lately kind of league.

But yeah. I understand. Yeah, but no. You don't want to, yeah. You don't want to give a little juice, a little juicy story. There's no juicy.

Oh, you're referring to the other story where he's, like, no, I'm just like anybody that's like, uh, played for Coach O, it's,

it's not been like favorable outlooks on the culture. in the organization and stuff like that. Now, I'm not going to say organization. The culture of Billy O. Yeah, he, like, he has his crazy one-line standard. And if you're off that, like, if you don't practice enough, if you, like, all these kind of things, like, you're not, like, you're not his guy and he'll single you out in meetings and that

kind of stuff. But he, like, he progressed as a coach fantastic while I was there, too. Like, we got there and, like, you know how, like, in meetings, like, I don't know if they do this anywhere. So, Coach, essentially you get mad if you're not, like, one of his guys who gets, who will get, like, praise or get. It's pretty clear, clear. cut with him. Like he doesn't bullshit a lot.

Like he'll, you know if he's your guy, you're his guy or not. So that kind of thing. And he, because he demands like a standard of performance. And like guys that like, like, initially when I got there like, I think it was like Thursday or Friday like he has his like hour long quiz. So he's quizzing everybody in the room. Special teams, offense, defense on different scenarios,

different jobs and that kind of stuff. Like who's the like, like, who's the punter? And if a guy doesn't know, he just, he'll keep burying you until you get something right or the other be like, Peters, what's the fucking right? answer or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like we, we had some, we had, we had some funny ass bits about it too, though, because he, like, he also like gauge the level of difficulty on the question to the person he was asking the question too. It's super funny. So, if you're like, Cush, what's their top three runs and like, whatever, pro I write, whatever, all these things.

And then, like, Jalen, Jalen, we got, like, if I, if, if you, if you run out and he throws the ball, do you, do you catch it? Yeah, you catch that just goes to him on it. But, um, If I, Brave does that a little bit. I mean, they might get it from like Belichick. Yeah. Like the team keys, the understanding your personnel. It's a great tool for accountability. Like, I'm just trying to tell the stories.

But like he, but like all that stuff is necessary. And then like I also think like it all like if you can't like if you know the information, you can't relay it in a meeting like you're going to be a liability. Right. So like if you don't know, again, like say they switch out a wing or a punner like all those things like the like little details like you're going to get exposed at one point. And if you can't do it a meeting, you're not going to do it on Sunday. Yeah. We interrupt this episode to tell you about our friends over at cross-country mortgage, man.

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Where are we going to? You go to cross-country mortgage.com slash barstool. I'll scroll down some. Cross-country mortgage LLC NMLS 3029 all loans subject to underwriting approval. That's www. nmLS consumer access.org. back to the episode like subscribe leave a comment Ray 5 stars and put in the comments that you want to see garret on camera more yeah so you got any uh you you you play with um cush did you play with kush yeah yeah yeah cause is your boy

what's like cush is a man cuzh has like a legend out there you know what i mean he's like there's like this legend about kush because he's obviously got popped a couple times like he's got the bloody photos he's got this oh the head butt with no helmet he's got this facade about him yeah yeah yeah yeah what's uh what's kush like Cush is the man, dude. He, I always, like, I always respect him just because he, like, guys that, like, trained their ass off in the gym, like, I always kind of gravitated towards, too, yeah.

Oh, yeah, dude, but so like, like, when he was on SE with Mauluga and all those boys, Taylor Mays, but who's the line by the course? Clay Matthews, Maluga, Brian Cushing. There's another one who played for the Bengals for a long time. Yeah, Malaga. Not Maluga, another one. That was like right before Maluga.

not the bigos a long time but it was uh we'll figure it out but anyway but no your coach's like yeah but like so like people see like the like it's not a facade he puts on like the dude's tough his nails he like like he like he like he like he like he it's dude he's a fucking warrior like so he like and like if once you like get to know him and get into his mindset too like the dude treats a football game like a street fight like that's what he wires his brain for um crazy new jersey crazy bastards. Oh, crazy new.

And this dude, there's so many stupid nuanced stories to Cush, too, where like, I don't think he timed it perfectly, but he did it a lot

where I think he timed it. So every time we had the team prayer in the shower, Cush would be in there puking his guts out. He pukes for every game. Just puking his guts out. And then,

like, he'd be like, screw. Peters, I threw up the, the CO12 pill, the whole pill. Like,

just, yeah, but he's the man. He, but did he, like, he, like,

that's, like, his deal like he's physical he plays tough he like he like he gets the job done he's uh like yeah he has this like the legend like he's like he's like this crazy strong he's incredibly strong human yeah but he like he like he's like he's very respected oh yeah he's uh fully respected but yeah he's dude I mean look at him dude look at him dude the shout the prayer showers are the best dude yeah like they're like all right you know you got all the rap music playing like the murdering songs this that and the other it's like all right prayer and shower and the music goes down and it pretty

which essentially everybody gives up. It's just, I don't know. It's just prayer in the shower. It's where, I have no clue. Why is it to shower? It's just the only empty space because not everybody comes to prayer either. Yeah, not everybody goes to prayer.

So if you're just doing a locker room around people who don't go to prayer. Yeah. And I'll just be like yelling and obnoxious stuff. Hey, tell the prayer where Jesus whoops their ass. They're going back there. Oh. Yeah.

And then you get done with the prayer and then you come back and then you turn the rap music back up. You're ready to go out there and murder somebody. Yeah. children to sleep. Yeah, now the sins come. Yeah, yeah, now the same comes. Yeah, get right with God for. Yeah. Um, talk about Mindstrong and we'll get into, because you're also trying to get into the podcast world with chasing edges, but talk a little bit about Mind Strong and your, your journey with this whole breath work performance, human performance, all that stuff.

Yeah, for sure. It, uh, low key. So it started that when I was down in Houston like 2016, like the, the, the team was paying for us to do the sensory deprivation chamber, like the float tanks and I was in there and I was just bullshit and like trying to hold my breath as long as I could. So I get out and Google, how do you hold your breath longer? And it was like free diving and Wim Hof method. So I started going deep into those. And I like I went from like holding my breath from a minute to like three minutes, three and a half. And I started like getting really good at holding my breath for whatever damn reason.

Yeah. And then my buddy at the same time, Harvey Martin was up in Minnesota and he was going through the Wimhoff stuff to like he was like transitioning out of the baseball world. And it was like kind of picking him up emotionally. like his physiology, everything, he was feeling good. And it became like a tool for him to like get through what he was going through. And then he started applying it to sport up there. He was a pitching coach.

So he started applying it to baseball players. But like so at the time, I was doing the free diving and the Wimhoff stuff. And that's when Luke Richardson came into Houston, the strength coach took over for. Yeah. Yeah. So and so we're down there and he comes down and he assesses the team and he comes to conclusion that we're unfit to run. He does like the FMS scores and like the Nordboard hamstring strength test and stuff and says like you guys aren't fit to run yet. We need to work on firing pattern,

trigger pointing, glute strength, all these things. So and he gave the whole state of the union like nobody runs outside of here. If you run, I don't care if you're JJ Wad, DeAndre Hopkins, nobody runs until I say so. And so nobody's running. And but I'm doing this breathwork stuff at the time. Just like staying busy. And then I kind of found this XPT pool training and stuff at the same time. And so then once we do start running a month later, we do like a warm up run one day. And the next day we run conditioning. And, dude, I'm like my conditioning levels still nails. And you're not running.

This is you not running. Yeah. Without running, we walk into our first conditioning day. And like, I'm outrunning all linebackers and I'm running with the dbs. Like I'm crushing some of the dbs. And I'm like, there's something here. How long were you not running again? Like you explained the- About a month.

Yeah. Yeah. So like a month. No running. You're just doing breathwork. Yeah. Well, we're doing breathwork. Then we're doing strength training in the gym.

like we're doing hamstring eccentrics. We're doing glute activation. But as far as running cardio, you're not doing it. Yeah, no, I'm not doing anything besides like my breath work stuff. And so I, all right, there's something here. And then that's when like me and my buddy Harvey started to put together this Mindstrong project to where like how can breath improve sports performance. And so like people in the world then were this dude, Brian McKenzie, Laird Hamilton and his wife, Gabby, Gabby Reese. And like there's not a lot of people in this breath world.

So like it's kind of like we're starting to figure out that like this is like a missing pillar. of human performance. Right. And so, and now then eventually, like, as you get into the weeds of it, it's not human performance, just like being a good, clean human being in the first place. You start learning about mouth breathing versus nasal breathing and what actual, like, calm breathing does to the mind. And then, like, how, like, if you are a mouth breather, how you're more, like, more likely

to, like, so I know you tape your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, you're more likely for sleep apnea and stress and anxiety and all these things. And so we started asking why. and like these mentors in the the realm we're able to answer these questions for us. And eventually we did our own research. So you got like the auction advantage.

You got all these books and the art of it too. And then we started demoing all these meditation methods and stuff. And eventually it became this human performance company where we're teaching breathwork to teach mental skills. So not only are we improving your performance and your VO2 max and stuff with breathwork. Now like if you can control your breath and your physiology, you can actually control your psychology and they're tied very closely together. So like kind of our stance on it is like psychology's unresolved physiology. Like your heart rate and your respiratory rate tell the brain that you're safe and you can

solve problems. If not, you regress and you can't solve problems. I think that shows up in football too, like guys that are too amped up or like young kids that can't like they know what to do. They know how to play cover three. They know how to play man to man all day, but they freak out. Like they're probably not breathing. They're not calm.

They don't understand that like the breath is a tool to downregulate and focus and things like that. So we've created this company around those skills. And so we can improve your athletic performance and then we can help you get control of your sports. So your sports psychology and your mental skills too. So it's been a cool little journey. We started that back in 2015 loosely and then it like it built as we got deeper and deeper into breathwork. And now you guys are getting into professional sports, right?

Yeah. So we're starting to get to the level of working with professional athletes. Yeah. So we were the first breath coach and the MLB. We have a contract as the breast special. for the San Francisco Giants who are number one right now. Shout out to the Giants, to the boys. And then we got a bunch of NHL guys.

They've gravitated towards it because, I mean, VO2 Max is like the standard for hockey because their work capacity so high. Yeah. Yeah. So we have about like six, seven NHL guys that work with us pretty regularly. Definitely do like the full offseason program and that kind of thing. And then we got a few pitchers around the MLB too. But yeah, so it's growing.

and it's got some traction and people like the cool thing about is you can feel it like like we went through a little bit of something this morning me and you with the the hypoxic work but like it's just like it's it's a tool right if i'm an athlete talking to you or just anybody anybody listening to like what's a simple explanation about why people should be curious about breathing correctly yeah i mean and breath performance and yeah i mean like you can start from the like the principles of it like like like why should you breathe in through your mouth versus your nose and when like really Like, if you're fighting somebody, yeah, breathe in through your mouth all day. Like the primary benefit of breathing through your mouth is to get more oxygen in and out.

But now you start talking about this, how you breathe throughout the day. Like that compounds more than anything. Like if your mouth breathing all day, like so the mouth that the mouth is digested. The nose is respiratory. Like that's how anatomically we're built. That's how God built us. So if you're breathing through your nose, the air is getting clean, humidified. You have the ability to access nitric oxide.

You breathe into the belly, which is the bottom of the lung. you strengthen the diaphragm and the pelvic floor if you're breathing breathing properly through your nose and so like now that's spine alignment and stability like there's a bunch of like fundamental benefits to just properly breathing good breathing mechanics and then now if you want to be an athlete and you want to be a dog now you like address your relationship with oxygen and carbon dioxide like it doesn't matter if you're 400 pounds or you're 150 pounds i put an oxymeter on your finger that reads the oxygen in your blood it's going to be 95 to 99 unless you're you have some lung

disorder. So the option, the problem is not having oxygen. It's how well you use it. So that now becomes your relationship with CO2, the byproduct of what you burn. Like after you burn the oxygen becomes carbon dioxide, you exhale it out. And you can, you can control and train that tolerance. So the longer you can control higher levels of CO2, the longer you can work. And your VO2 max goes up and now you can run longer. And like, me and like my buddy Nate Efter, like you keep the, you keep the dark place away from you longer. Like you can, it's just like that mental. giant or that mental demon that comes on your shoulder like no you're too tired and that kind of stuff like you can keep that farther away yeah yeah so like that's kind of how we view it right because

I'm asking from a stance too if like if an athlete's like listening like if you're just sitting there like just some meat hit like okay why would I incorporate breathing into my stuff yeah that's why I ask like a simple example that could make somebody think and be like you know I should get curious about this yeah going into performance yeah it's just like even simpler look at it is mMA fighting like you see a guy you can tell when somebody's dead tired because they're mouth breathing, heavy, body language shows it. Like, the guys that are cool, calm and collected, breathing through their nose, like, they last longer.

Like, the goal is to breathe less. Like, the guy who breath's the least is probably going to win. Like, if you can't breathe, you can't fight. If you can't get auction to the muscle, you can't fight. Like, if you can't run, like, if your legs are dead, can't fight. And you can train your tolerance to that level of CO2 that you build up in your legs or your arms or whatever body part you're using for your sport. So it's, and it's something you can do without wearing and tearing the body.

You don't have to go bang and run 100 yards sprints all the time. Work in some breath work. Get comfortable with higher levels of CO2 with exhale holds and things like that. And you can improve your aerobic capacity. It's been proven time and time and again. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

It's just a tool. Yeah. Yeah. I know for me, the book that you put me on was the oxygen advantage. If somebody was to start, would that be the book you would put everybody on to start looking, getting curious outside of obviously following at Mind Strong.

And shouting out the Mind Strong Project. You guys actually have an app too, right? Yeah, we were also with this Kajabi app. But yeah, so you can access and buy a membership for monthly like breath coaching and some mobility work and primal stuff. So if people were interested in getting involved with the Mindstrong Project, where would they go? They would download the Kajabi app? Yeah. So just go to the website and signs you up and it gives you all the instructions.

Go to your guys's website. Mindstrong Project.com. And it'll send to take care of you from there. But yeah. But some practical things you can do. reading oxygen advantage. Yeah, that's like that's the place to start because it breaks down like the oxygen CO2 relationship.

Yeah, the bore effect. And then as far as like the taping your mouth at night, like now like if you look at it practically like every breath helps or hurt you. So like if you breathe into your mouth, that like the mouth breathing triggers fighting. Fight and flight is sympathetic nervous system. Nervous system triggers parasympathetic rest and digest. So do you want to tell yourself all night while you're sleeping that you're safe or or that you're fighting.

Like if you're fighting, you're not going to get into that deep sleep consistently. Yeah, I know for me when I started taping my mouth shut due to you putting me on the oxygen band, and tell me about it. Shout out the boy.

But for me, like, wearing my whoop, where my whoop when I go to sleep and everything, getting my, like getting all the, the data back, the stats back the night after. My respiratory rate would go way down.

My resting heart weight rate would go way down. Like, I'd be in the 50s. And the minute I started taping, I started getting in the high 40s, and then after a few weeks, I'm down in, like, the low 40s. Obviously, that goes with, like,

workout routine and stuff like that, but this is something I'm consistently doing anyway. So just the benefits that I was quickly seeing from taping my mouth shut at night and being conscious of the way I breathe throughout the day. Like, I'll sit there and driving my truck or I'm driving in that nice Chevy Silverado, and I'll just notice how I'm breathing.

Like, if my mind scrambled and I'm thinking about busting a lot, or I'm thinking about whatever my next workout routine is or juggling ball or just any of that stuff, I'll realize that my breasts are a little shorter. I'm in my chest a little bit more. I'm actually breathing a little bit more out of my mouth when I'm thinking about a lot of stuff. My head's full of jargon.

For sure. And when you sit there and slowly and you start just being conscious about breathing through your nose, breathing into your stomach, it is crazy how much, how much were mouth breathers. Yeah, but it's that first level of awareness you get.

So like right, so the first time that I was at that conditioning day with the Texans, I heard people breathing for the first time and I knew I wasn't breathing that hard. So I was like, all right, I'm cool. Like, I'm about to bury the boys. Yeah, yeah.

And that's weakness. Like, and fighters see the same thing. You see a guy dog tired mouth breathing. Like, all right. Blood in the water. Cut his head off, yeah. Blood in the water. He says fucking cut his head off.

Let's go. Rip his head off. Yeah. You said Connor. Hey, get the fuck out of here, boss with that negativity, dude. We'll talk about, I know it's just all the time. I thought Connor looked good. And obviously he was going to say.

Yeah. And clearly he was nasal breathing because he got up swinging. Hold on. So you or Connor and he was Porier? Yeah, he was poor. Yeah, he was poor. Yeah. Okay.

Plus goes against anything. Pretty much. And then Blas is like a troll on the internet and just like, you know. You guys all got some troll on you. You got some fantastic trolling skills like that. Like your trolling skills are elite. I appreciate that. Yeah.

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does any of the boys have any questions about his journey or any of that breathing? shit. Yeah, well, just a comment. Like, as y'all started talking about it more, I started noticing myself. I'm like, all right, I'm about to just breathe through my nose. There you go. And then like, five minutes later, I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. I'm out of breath. Well, there's more resistance there through the nose initially, but like also the nasal cavities, like, if you don't use it, you lose it thing. So you have to keep sending stimulus there to open up the nasal cavity. If you're mouth breathing and a lot of things trigger mouth breathing. If you eat like shit, like your stomach

is solving a problem. It needs more oxygen to solve a problem. Like, Oxygen is anti-bacterial antiviral, too. It's just a lot of things compound into it, and you can solve a lot of your problems with your breath. Yeah. Okay. No, I was going to ask about these ice baths, too, that we've been looking at. Oh, yeah, giddy up. Oh, bro, this is my man. Brian will walk out into the wilderness, frozen,

whether he's in Alaska, Montana, anywhere up north. He'll find a lake or a river nearby, frozen on top. He'll bring a shovel. He'll bring a pickax. He'll chop a hole into it. And you'll go and sit in this cold-ass fucking river. Yeah, it's phenomenal. Yeah, the cold shit, like look up cold shower benefits.

That's small stuff. But this, this, seeing you do this shit, I'm like, yo, you're just on a completely different level with this cold therapy. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So, like, we, like, with Mind Strong, we use it as a tool. Like, how can we put you in a stressful environment and show you that breathwork is

a tool? So, like, the first thing, we'll put you in the ice, which is like, we call that like our stadium, like a stadium with 80,000 people with music bumping and new responsibility and eyes on you. like attention all those things are stressors so that's the only stress that we can make similar to that so we'll put you in there and like a lot of people's first response is a short shot like that and like that's a problem that's not a tool like you're hurting yourself so like we'll teach you again the relationship how to dump CO2 so that the next breath the auction gets in

calms the system gets to the cell and so now like the breast is a tool to beat the cold to beat the stress and you can use that in a stadium you can use that in the ice you can do all the things but like it's just yeah like if you if you can't breathe you you breathing an environment, you can't own the environment. You can't breathe in a position. You can't own the position. It's the same in weightlifting and that kind of thing. But, no, like, the, honestly, like, the reason I love the ice so much is it's forced

meditation for me. Like, like, ice sucks every time. It doesn't matter how many times I've done it. Nobody wants the hardest part's like the 30 seconds before you get in that thing. You know, question. I'll wake up, tell myself, I'm going to hit a cold shower the next morning. I'll wake up. Yeah.

But you're, but you're fine when you get in, though. Like, it's not the end of the world every time. Like, but for sure. but when you get in, you're a little, you know, you're a little cold. You're a little naked, you're a little afraid. You know, right when you turn that, when you turn that knob dude and that cold just hits you. Yeah. It's just, but yeah, once you get past it. Yeah, for sure. But like, and like, there's not a crazy super amount of benefits to the, the ice by itself because it's like a vasoconstrictor and that kind of thing. But, like, you get the, uh, the focus and the awakeness from the neuroapapaprenephant hit and that kind of thing. And it's, it's also like, it's like making your bed. Like, it's something you don't want to do. but you should do it, start you yourself out with some accomplishment, that kind of thing. But like the three minutes in the ice, especially in nature, is just like forced meditation. Like I'm not anywhere else. I'm there.

I'm focusing on my breath and it's chill. And then once you get out, like you're numb anyways, like getting your legs in the cold tub, your legs numb up and you don't feel anything after a minute anyways. So you'll get out from there and I'll do some breathwork after I get out of the ice. But I mean, you're sitting in their neck up. Yeah, neck up. Like what kind of benefit do you have from that cold water immersion? It's just more.

You know what I'm saying? You're kind of like just going over it saying there's not a lot of, there's not tremendous benefit. But there is in cold water immersion. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So obviously one, the first you control the breath. It's an immune system booster. But like it's literally like, again, like I just call it forced meditation.

But like so now if you if you want to get deeper into it, I don't know how deep going to get to like the cold shock and heat shock proteins. But like I primarily use ice now as a contrast on a recovery day. Gotcha. you. And then like I'll use it like cold shower to wake up and a cold shower to go to bed to get my body temperature down. What kind of recovery methods do you use like with hot cold? Hot cold I do. Because you're big in the sauna. So explain what you do there. Yeah. So like that's where you see some crazy benefits and it's like it's a great flush recovery. But so you start three minutes in the cold. You get a heavy sweat and try and get your heart right up above 120 in the sauna. Get a good sweat gone. Another three minutes in the cold. You'll go neck up in the cold. Yep. Every time. And then you'll go straight from the cold. You'll get in the cold. You'll get in the cold. the hot sauna, a traditional sauna, are we talking infrared? Traditional sauna. They get a little hotter.

So around like 180, 190, whatever. Yeah, 180 to like 210. And then you'll try to work up, get your heart rate up over 120. So how long do you get in the sauna? The sauna is, like, it depends on the temperature. Like, if it's 200, you can get, you can be out in 15 minutes. If not, it bleeds on a little longer. And everybody's different too.

Everybody responds to the heat differently. So, um, but so it's three rounds. So three, three touches the ice. But the last round of the ice is just, uh, usually just a dunk or like a dunk, uh, and hold your breath underwater under the ice tub for a little bit. Do you finish in the ice? Yeah, you finish in the ice for recovery. But like the big thing there is like, um, what people don't realize is it's, it turns

into a workout. Like some of our hockey guys will burn like seven to 900 calories sit like going, because usually the cycle takes around an hour. And these guys like like, like, again, where you burn a lot of your calories is your cardiovascular system and you have all these little muscles on like the veins and arteries that vaso constrict, vasodilate, heart rate gets up in the heat. Then you get back in vaso constrict and you're working these little muscles and you end up burnt like it taxes your nervous system but like you'll sleep like a baby after it it's

phenomenal and then like then you're also like you're killing weak cells like like the cold like the cold chalk protein heat chock proteins just start becoming like a tougher human to kill yeah yeah a tougher human to kill i mean you get the juice flowing but but now there's yeah but now there's like all these life metaphors and all this like primal step back we're like we're not meant to live in AC we're not supposed to go from 70 degrees in our house to our car to work to our car and home like We have energy systems in our body to fight the cold and the heat, but we don't use them anymore. So, like, where does that energy system go? Like, some people say it's like the autoimmune diseases, whatever the hell.

But, like, that's all hearsay. But, like, like, it makes you more comfortable in extreme environment. So why would you not train yourself that way? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But, yeah. But practically, just to get this recovery method out there. Three minutes in the ice, neck up. Yep. 15 minutes, probably around 15 minutes in the sauna. Three minutes again. the ice neck up. Yep.

15 to 20 in the sauna again. Yep. And then you'll end with just completely emerging yourself, do a breath, hold under water, just take a dip fully in. Yep. And then you'll get out. Yeah. And dude,

you know, like some people feel high after like you, like, it's just like a really cool feeling. Dude, it's a, you got to feel it. The, uh, Ben Greenfield, his one would be, uh, his one was like 15 minutes in the, in the heat, five minutes in the cold fit and basically three rounds.

And you would end on a cold shower. Yeah. So similar, the same kind of thing. Yeah. And doing it in training camp, especially I like on a, off day, bro, you do feel incredible. All that, like that pump you're getting in your veins and arteries and stuff, it like flushes

out your soreness. Like, I, like, I tweak my back deadlift in the other day. And like, I hit my son on ice and like it, it starts, you, there's a noticeable difference before and that. Noticeable. It's crazy. It does. It feels really good when, like, you know, you drop, when we'll drop our stones and actually

do the cold water submersion, like, for real. Because sometimes you're just like, fuck, I'm not just trying to get. I'm not trying to completely emerge myself underwater. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because we'll, like stand in the cold tub. Like Taylor, we'd call ourselves like a count of bill buddies back in like 18 when we were on the Titans together. Even this year, too, before, you know, he had his ACL.

But, you know, you go from the sauna. But in COVID this year, the saunas were shut down. So you couldn't activate those facilities. But when we do it, you'd sit there and be in the sauna together. And then you'd be in the cold tub and you back, hey, are you going to go underwater? Yeah. Like, I don't know. Not today, man.

And then you just emerge yourself down in the cold water. You get in like the steam room. But you do, you feel absolutely incredible. Yeah. Do we have anything else? Anything else to touch on? There's been a banger pod. How long have we went?

You're at an hour in 26 minutes. Time flies when you're having fun. Boom, the boys. You've been talking. You've been rolling. I was going to ask about, so you know, like, the chiropractors and stuff like that. Like, the, like, I guess you can get your nose adjusted or you could open up your, your airways.

Have you seen that done with, like, the balloon? Yeah, a little bit. I haven't done it myself, so I can't like to speak to. Are you not a chiropractor guy the way you kind of just chuckled right there? None. No, I'm a... He goes, you know, car practice. I was intrigued.

I was intrigued at the next step on that conversation. No, I've done more like the TMJ work where they like adjust like the fascia around your jaw and like inside your mouth and your tongue and stuff. That stuff I think works fantastically. But no. Taylor's alluded to doing something like that like stuff inside of his mouth and yeah. Shit to where he'll like move his hand. Like just do some like, just weird kind of shit. Yeah.

Like your facial pattern starts in the mouth. So like it's a good place to start. Then I have my jaw obviously. So I constantly like just like kind of RPR through my like my fashion, my neck and stuff. So like you'll just find a bunch of sore spots. Yeah. Dude, when they get your fingers in your, like they'll put gloves on and stuff. When they get your fingers and dig into your cheeks and stuff like that sounds

it bites. But then like, but then like, but like, like, how often do you like go through like grinding your teeth and like clenching or whatever you don't really know? But like once they open that up, you're just like, oh wow. Yeah. When I was doing my, that RPR stuff that we've talked about, what is RPR? what does rPR stand for by the way you know

you're putting you on the spot you're the leader you're the leader I'm blanking on right now but when I was getting assessed in RPR yeah I was a jaw driver you're like there's like a few different drivers

and I was like a jaw driver so anything something would happen I'm like clenching at my jaw yeah but and the dude would just rub the dude would be rubbing my jaw out that sounds fucking real sense no pause but that shit hurts

yes that shit fucking hurts bro what the fuck boss Sorry, Belas just threw up on the on the YouTube's Is that what you're talking about? That's the adjustment you're talking about That looks like a clean nose break

Cody Garbrandt He's a UFC fighter Yeah, hey, where are we hearing that? You got a speaker back here? What? Your headphones, I think. Yeah, they're hanging on your microphone. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah, but Cody Garbrandt, he's a UFC fighter and this is kind of how I first learned about it on YouTube he does this before any fight he just kind of opens up his airway with that with that tool yeah

oh fuck I'm interested to see if he's holding his breath while he does that like how do they keep the pressure there who is it what's his name Cody Garbrant yeah he's a job to him DM him dude

sliding his DMs that doesn't look like Cody that's Cody Garbram's asking questions yeah and he's just putting like he was on the ultimate he's putting guys through it he's putting guys through it Yeah, it's something that you did before.

Yeah, but the point is like that space in the body is malleable. Like you can improve it. That looks for, that looks terrible. It does, man. I know, I just got you so conscious of breathing and, like, touching, touching sensitive spots on your jaw. There was a, so with Dr. Serrano, there was like, like, that dog whistle sound. You know what I mean? Like, dependent, like, the supersonic sound I would get in my ear every now and then.

It would just, like, come and go to where I'd be like, death first thing I'd hear like this supersonic noise kind of come through my ear to bring the sound back in my ear and I was obviously nervous about it like yeah what the fuck's going on and wondering if there's like you know the first thing you think of as a football player is like brain stuff or like CTE and shit like that I'm reaching out to Serrano and he's talking he's sending me videos like working my jaw out and stuff and I mean it did work it didn't work it did work because I was this was happening probably a few times a week all right and it was kind of starting to scare me a little bit and And, you know, obviously Dr. Serrano, he's just a mad scientist. Yeah, it went away. But this shit is crazy. Like, all this stuff that we're sitting here talking about. Hopefully people are still tuned in and, like, juiced up about it. Like, me, if I'm hearing this kind of stuff on a podcast, I'm so locked in.

It's got me, like, reading whatever. Like, when we referred to Oxygen Advantage, like, the shit's already bought. Like, that's usually how, like, I work. If I hear something and I get super curious about it, I'm, like, ready to go all in on trying to figure it out. Because, like, you with the podcast you're making called chasing edges, like, you're finding these edges. like you're finding these edges you're trying to like chasing just be better. Yeah. You're trying to like, yo, that'll make, this seems like it'll make me a better athlete or perform better.

Like, I need to fucking do it because that's like the 1% I can get better. Yeah, guarantee. I just want to like that like that got started back when I was like in the arena ball is like like I need an edge. Like so eventually I was like to keep chasing edges and I found more things to improve on. And now I just want to know like what all these other athletes and doctors are doing just to optimize performance. Because like I think like competition like breeds this really cool curiosity to be the best. So, like, guys are doing, again, they're searching peptides. They're doing, like, their supplements, new types of training.

You got the pool training now. Like, you see Adasanya, the UFC fighter doing the breath work and the pool training. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you get guys just, like, pushing the edge of performance. And, like, but then, like, you got some guys that just stick to these fundamentals. Like, their, like, their mental performances, like, their ability and their wit and, like, their work ethic. Keep them there. Like, I think I had Nate Ebner on is one of my first guess.

And his mental framework is just. just ungodly. When you say mental framework, like, what do you mean? Like, just how he approaches doing his job, like, what's non-negotiable, how he eliminates distraction. Like, some distractions, like, that register in my mind, don't even register in his. Like, he just, like, he is the definition of a pro that has the ability to, like, sustain focus and discipline.

He played for the patrons for nine years. Like, there's a reason why, like, he fit into that program. And he's on the Olympic team for what, rugby? Yeah, for rugby in 2016 for Rio. Then he just had to step out of the Tokyo Olympics to, uh, he was a, uh, he played for get ready for the NFL season this time. Yeah, he's a savage. We interrupt this episode to bring you a message from our friends at Sling. Go Sling! Sling! That'd be a sick nickname.

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light therapy like putting it on your nuts raising testosterone levels i'm just like yo who is this guy i'm searching ben greenfield oh he's got a podcast i'm listening to his podcasts all the time on recovery methods and anything peptide or nutrition or any of that shit yeah his book goes crazy places. Which book is it? Boundless. It is a huge fucking book. It's a textbook on biohacking and like, again, roots, supplements. Yeah. Anything and everything. Like breathwork meditation. It goes down all the rabbit holes. And he does, he did a lot of like heavy lifting for everybody to have this amount of exactly. He's done the like he's went down those dark alleys to find all this information that's accessible to everybody. Yeah, he's an investigative reporter. And then so now he just put his efforts into that. So that's dope. But like that stuff,

But just, regardless if I'm playing football or not, like, I want to optimize and I want to, like, live better and have enough energy to pursue crazy thing. Like, whether it's a, like, a podcast or a new job or, like, relationships and that kind of thing. Like, you want to give your fucking best. Yeah. So I think that stuff's cool and that kind of, I guess, that, that world of chasing edges goes down a lot of rabbit holes. It sums you up. Yeah. But it got me an opportunity in the NFL.

Like, you might get another one, bro. Yeah. God willing. like snapping's a new edge yeah yeah hey fuck it man you get back in you you really are you're an example of chasing edges and staying persistent and staying focused and staying discipline while obviously dabbling and other things that keep you happy and keep you going and shit like that but it's it really is it's cool to see what your climb has been and the respect you've gained as far as being a captain i know that stood out to me seeing all these leagues you were in before

you became that and then obviously staying steady two years out you're still chasing not still chasing like you need it but it's just cool that you got it in your back like you got that club in your bag yeah yeah yeah so it's me you know what i mean it's dope man and i really do i fuck with you you know that and uh i appreciate you coming on but when's your podcast chasing edge is gonna drop you think middle august middle of august keep a look up for the boys will obviously pub it but uh seriously man thanks for coming on this shit was insightful yeah appreciate you and motherfuckers who are still listening and about this yeah subscribe rate review five stars go follow the boy brian peters at bryan underscore peters 10 go see all of

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