Bussin' With The Boys - Brian Urlacher + Massive Weekend Recap

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

Recorded: June 17, (& 28) 2022 | This week we welcome NFL legend Brian Urlacher to the bus. It is a historical podcast for the boys this week for two reasons: 1. Brian Urlacher is the first ever Hall of Famer to step on the bus. 2. For the first time in Bussin' With The Boys history we made it to #1 on the Spotify charts. None of this would be possible without all of the tier 1s, 2s, and 3s so we can't say thanks enough. This pod is electric and if you love ball you're going to love these two legendary NFL linebackers chop it up. Intro (0:00) S/O "no free shoutout" of the week (25:30) Taylor re-unites with the boys (via zoom)!! (33:30) Urlacher Interview starts (58:25) Urlachers junk food diet & son being recruited (1:03:00) Getting benched pre-season & how it all started clicking for him (1:14:10) Playing against Michael Vick, w/ Brandon Marshall and w/ Jay Cutler (1:30:50) Bears should have never fired Lovie Smith (1:42:05) Brian Urlacher explains his new hair (1:53:00) Hall of Fame criteria is stupid (2:03:00) Tier Talk - Best Late Night Food - (2:17:05) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - Learn more about the Chevy Silverado at https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool Georgia Boots: Go to to https://barstool.link/GeorgiaBoot and use code BUSSIN for 20% off Revitalyte: Pick up Revitalyte Black Label today in-stores or online at https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/revitalyte-black-label Duke Cannon: Use code “Bussin” at https://barstool.link/DukeCannonBSS for 15% off your first order.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have some tears. Oh, wait, wait, wait. It's not Greg Olson. That's, well, I already showed you guys who's coming next week. Brian Erlacker. That was fucking awesome. What a whirlwind of a day that was. We get Taylor.

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So, for those of you who have been, those of you who have been following the bus, you know we have this little banter we got going on, this little cat and mouse game we're playing with Rich Eisen right now. We post a photo of Rich Eisen every day until he comes on the bus. Jack, our social media guy, is in charge of doing that. He hasn't missed a day yet. Every day he's coming correct with a Rich Eisen photo.

Rich, we have, I feel like, I feel like Rich on their episode, The Rich Eisen Show, they should just create a Bustin with the Boys segment. Because I think Rich, they talk about Bustin with the Boys, or they recap all the tweets and posts that have been going on about him, I think maybe once a week.

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We appreciate you. We hope this is a partnership that lasts for all of eternity. Now, to get into the episode, we have done a, a lot of shit this last week, boys. The boys have been back there grinding. They're going to get a week off next week. The 4th of July week to have it all off. It's the first time we've ever given a vacation day.

They complained enough if we finally heard them. Bar still had to tell us, hey, give them a break. They've been fucking going balls to the wall. And that shit is true. I do not want it to go unsaid that we have. I know everyone says they have the hardest working crew in the world. I think I will say we have one of the hardest working crews in the world. Because the boys grind, we're a team of the...

We are a team of the... of six, but aside from Taylor and I, it's a team of four that puts together the pod, the content, the social media, the clips, the creativity, the production of it, all of it. The merchandise, everything. These boys, the team of four, they do absolutely everything for this podcast. And I'll just jump right into it, boys. Whenever you're listening to this episode, I don't know if we're still up there, but on Spotify, we're the number one fucking sports podcast in the world right now. Let's give a fucking round of applause. Listen, and I'm not claiming that. I'm not claiming that. I'm not claiming, we have the most listened to because I'm not going to say that.

I don't know how the algorithm works because I know part of my take, they've been king forever. I'm sure they have the most audio downloads out there. Like the way the algorithms work, I have no clue. I do know this. We've been camping in the top five, the top 10 for a while. Our consistency has been slowly growing over time. Again, we do not have the numbers like the part of my takes,

the spitting chicklets. Those guys in the list, they might have more than this. I have no fucking clue. but I will say being number one and seeing our name and logo at the top of that list for however long it is, it could already be off. It doesn't even fucking matter anymore. It might be off by the time that this episode comes out. However, we have the photo evidence and that will live for eternity.

But to have that, boys, and to know where we were three years ago, Blas, I know you're back there during those sunny-ass days, bro. Like, we were in a gravel parking lot with a fucking duct tape bus, made this like all the stickers were already up there, but we turned it into a little podcast studio. I know you can kind of see it in the cameras. And we ran off two generators, one that would flicker and we couldn't trust it.

So we would have to wait. We were part right next to an RV business, where if RVs, families weren't using the business or the building to plug up and power their RV or whatever the case may be, we would have to talk to the business owner and ask if we could plug into the building to use power to produce our podcasts. Our internet was off of an iPhone hotspot,

and we bootstrap that thing. And Taylor and I would talk before we dropped the podcast. Like our first one might have done like $5,000 on audio, our first mini down because we didn't do YouTube right away. And I think we had $5,000. And people were like excited that we were doing something. Like I'm sure that that's why like, let's see what these guys are actually going to do.

Like let's see how they sound, blah, blah, blah, this and that. But the key is always like the consistency. and if you can retain that audience and build it over time. But like, Taylor and I would be on the phone stressing over how it sounded. Do we think this is going to be good? Should we take this out? Should we cut this out? Like, we thought about editing so much stuff out.

We did edit somehow. But we were always, like, in her own head because nobody, no athletes actively playing was doing it like that. Like, I know JJ Redick had had a podcast while he was playing. But I'm saying now it's becoming more of like a norm of guys, athletes branding, having a podcast, podcasting, wall. playing hell, Tremont Green's podcasting right after a game. And we would just be in our head about, like, doing this because Taylor had just signed a big deal.

I wasn't even on a team. I was a free agent. I didn't know if doing that and being this vocal and like talking about jerk off stories or getting hammered or injecting BPC 157. And all these things would be like, hey, he's too loud on the mic would play me out of the league. Like, you're just, you're taking a shot in the podcasting world. And to know that we are looking at ourselves at number one. is just fucking awesome. Because we would contract guys out.

That's how we met Blas. Now we have this stable team of four. Like, shout out to you guys in the back. All the guys in the back that work hard on this bus. Shout out to our fans because the camaraderie and vibes that you guys bring on social media at the tailgates, the watch parties. Dude, fucking all of it.

We are a homegrown and home operated podcast. Like, yes, we partnered up with Barstall Sports because we ended up getting identified. by going viral a couple of times. We're able to talk about cutting his dick off for a Super Bowl. Jalen Ramsey talking shit on wide receivers. Like just a couple of dudes like one and a half people on and using our access to give guys platforms,

have fun and build camaraderie, bring the locker room to life. And we've been doing that. And it's legitimately because obviously Taylor and I can come up here and rip on a pod. I can have great conversations with guys. Taylor can have great conversations with guys and run a podcast by himself.

I'm sitting up here by, myself. Like, we figure out ways to make it work whenever Taylor wants to go on vacation. I might be getting married or going on a honeymoon. Like, we're always figuring that shit out. We do it with you guys who are watching and listening right now. Um, and it's because you guys tune in and you subscribe, you guys unsubscribe, you resubscribe. You shout it out on your social media. It's like, you're building this motherfucker with us, dude. But because it's not just Taylor and I, we can do the content shit. But the guys in the back who produce it, keep in front of your eyes all the time you guys engaging with it, shouting it out and fucking being for the boys buying the merch I'm

wearing like the shit I'm wearing right now. I mean the shorts aren't bustling with the boys because it's 4th of July one of the best holidays in the world's coming up. But I'm rocking this for the boy's shirt. We're getting to make merchandise. This is an OG, an OG hat, a for the boys rope hat. And like you guys buy the merch. You shout all that shit out. You show up to the tailgate. You have the best fucking time. You cheers with us. Like I'm fired up right now. I don't know if you feel the passion oozing out of me right now, but I'm fired up. Because we are fucking sitting at number one. It doesn't matter if it's for five minutes or not.

But the perspective of it and seeing how far we've come in three years time knowing that it's just been this fucking small team of dudes who are just like, hey, do you think this sounds good? Do you think this is going to be good? Should we talk about this? Should we talk about that? Like, it's fucking awesome. And you know what?

We should have a shot, boys. Like Whistle Pig, we got Whistle Big. So we got the pig top. What's this dude called? Uncle Pig? Sure. Uncle ham dude We got Uncle Ham tops

They go on to the piggyback You guys need to buy a shit Whistle Pig is an insanely good whiskey brand I love it I brought on the I wanted to flex on you guys I wanted to bring on my tenure I didn't bring on the Boss Hogg 7

Or the Boss or the Whistle Pig 12 year but I brought on the 10 year And we should do shots We should do shots For however long this last Bust with the boys being A number one pod And we're gonna ride this wave

A P Garrett And by the way, these shot glasses, you know, always be closing, always be selling. No bad days, stud, big dick energy, be a fucking wolf, big hug, signing kisses. They're all on the website. You can go buy these things. We just pulled them. Are those the used ones?

Hey, zoom into that. Zoom into that, boss. Are you zooming in? Oh, yeah, you see it. There's some grit. Hey, guys, I wouldn't want to do this any other way. There's some grit in this, fuck, in these shot glasses. Like, this embodies what we.

We've been about this entire time. And I'll be damned if you guys aren't going to come up here. And we're going to have a little, we're going to have a little celebratory shot of Whistlepig whiskey rye because it's the best out there. You guys want the 10 year? Hell yeah. So you want the 6 year?

Damn, that 10 year, though. Yeah, I'll take it. We'll do one just to see you. Hey, are you down here filming Uncle Ham going in? I got. Move that bottle. Move 10? Did you get that boss or do I need to do it again?

I'll do two. So I'll do the six here. You guys can do the, look at Uncle Ham just going in. All right, as you guys are listening, man, if you're new, like we had Brian Erlack around, so I'm sure we got some Chicago peeps tuning in. Maybe it's your first time. I swear to God, boys, we bring vibes, we bring camaraderie. You might want to stick around, go back, listen to some old pods.

You want to listen to a funny one if you love Burke Kreisher. To me, he's living at the top of Mount Busmore right now. But check out some old episodes, man. subscribe to the boys. Give us a shot. If we can make your weekly roller decks a pause, we would be fucking stoked to have you.

Also, I'll be drinking again. You're listening to this on Wednesday? I'll be drinking again today, actually, because the yak, we're going to be filming, as you're listening right now, we're going to be filming tonight

an episode of the yak, case race, Shane Gillis, joining the yak with myself and all the yak boys, and we're doing a case race for, I don't even know what the... Is there a reason?

It's for Nick's birthday. It's for Nick's birthday. Happy birthday to Nick. So we're going to do this for... No, no, yeah. We got to do a celebratory shot. We got to keep this about Bustin still. We got to let Bustin have their moment.

Come up here, boys. We're going to go around the back. Yeah, come around the back. You can cut this part and then whenever you guys get up here, you can turn it. We're zoomed out. We got everybody. We're zoomed out. Zoomed out?

Yeah. Yeah, fucking squeeze in. Squeeze in. Dude, we, we, we, we, we, So we had this airstream. I know you guys have probably seen photos of what we have in the warehouse. We went and grabbed these shot glasses out of the airstream that we have parked in here. And the last time we used these shot glasses was during Black Friday when we were doing merchandise shots.

And they've been sitting in their sense. So we have a little dust. We have a little grit. Piss and vinegar at the bottom of these. Boys, cheers to a good three years. Cheers to number one. And hopefully, fucking we ride. we ride this wave

for who fucking knows how long, who gives a shit. Yeah, 200K on Twitter, 200K on YouTube, the boy, let's have a shot, man. That's just smooth, bro. Hey, dab it up.

Dap it up, boys. Do you guys solid? Were you guys fired up? Bring us down. Hey, here we go. Get us out of here. Bring it in here. You guys know the saying,

hey, enjoy 4th of July this weekend. and always remember this. No means no, maybe means no, and yes means no in the morning. Boys on three, one, two, three. Boys! Love that. That was a saying we always got, obviously on the football teams

when you're about to have a break, spring break or something like that. About to go get after it because you know the one thing Taylor's talked about it, we've talked about before. Yeah, the one thing on everybody's mind when you're going out to the beach, you're going out to see bikinis and everything else. Beer, yeah, beer. I appreciate you guys for giving us the floor.

Some of you might already fast forward it a little bit. But shout up, bustle with the boys number one. Joe Rogan, watch the fuck out, baby. But so to recap, last week we went to Tideon you. The boys, I felt like the neighbor that goes into the family's house. And everybody's like, hey, who is this guy right here? And the parents are just like, oh, that's comp. Like he's our neighbor.

He's basically family. Like that's the vibe I feel like I have when going into these things with Tighten U and NASCAR. But it's just comp. He's honorary tied in. Like just let him like he's going to act ridiculous and shoot some content. Like let him just do whatever he's trying to do. Um,

but the way tied in you wamp boys, George Kittle, Travis Kelsey and Greg Olson, they do that shit right. They put them up in a nice hotel. They have gifts suites. So it reminds you of like going to a pro bowl or an NFL PA meeting or somewhere you go and visit

the Super Bowl and you have there's like gift sweets for the guys. They did a lot of like mental work where they sat in groups, they broke out and breakout groups to learn from each other, learn how you get better. A lot of mindset stuff on top of like technical things as a tight end. I'm telling you, they did an incredible job running.

I love listening to Greg Olson speak. Bruce Kittle shout out to him because he ran that shit and he ran it well. The Rubicon team, Pete, Pete Raskin, I believe. Shout out to you guys. It was an incredible few days. Hot as fuck, but it was worth the free food that we got taken care of. They got food catered in. I'm telling you, it was a really good camp. They do a good job of that.

I hope they continue to do it every year. I hope it continues to grow, which I think it will. We also went to NASCAR on Sunday. So we got done with Tideon You. We did Tideon You interviews on Wednesday. We went to Tidon You the camp, which an Under the Hood will be coming out. So make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel to look out for that. That Under the Hood's blog will be coming out because we did a camp day on Thursday. Friday, we got the bus towed. We did a Darren Waller podcast, which that won't be coming out for several weeks. So probably come out in August.

Darren Waller podcast at 8 in the morning. Darren Waller Box at 6 a.m. Did our podcast at 8 in the morning. Went to Titan in you to do a camp at 10 a.m. But at 10 a.m, we got the bus towed to the NASCAR infield, to which we went to NASCAR on Sunday. He was sitting there in the fan zone on the infield. That was an awesome time.

the boys at NASCAR fucking party. They go hard. We did a little shotgun. I had to delete and end everybody's life doing a shotgun. You guys can catch that. It's on all of our social media channels. You can follow all that stuff. But yeah, dude, we had a great time.

We've had a grimy last five days. We're coming up on Fourth of July, to which I think we can argue, Fourth of July is one of the best holidays of the year. Something that's not really thought about until the day comes. But I'm so excited. I'm going back to Missouri.

Going back to my homeland, Missouri. We have some back, we're grilling, backyard games going on, tournaments that have to be played, fireworks, like, I'm going to take the kids to the fireworks stands in Missouri because you know you don't turn left without saying a fireworks stand in Missouri. I mean, it's one of the best states when it comes to fireworks, because it's about all we got. I'm going to take the kids in there and I'm going to tell them,

like, when you're a kid going into a fireworks stand, you want nothing more, like your parents usually cap you on a budget. You have this X amount to spend? Fucking fly got in here. you got X amount to spend or you say yes and no to certain like fireworks, right? I'm going to take the kids in

and I'm going to tell the little homie's like, look, do whatever you want to do, boys, get whatever you want to get. I'll make sure it's better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission. You're with Uncle Komp right now. Go buy as much as you want, buy whatever you want, and we're going to have a hell of a time and join the Fourth of July because that's how we do it in Missouri.

That's how we do it in Bontar, fucking Missouri, boys. What do you guys have for Fourth of July plans? Blas is on the front line. police officer, he's working. He's probably going to be on guard the entire day. I think lake days, hopefully in the future, me and a bunch of my friends over the years have gone

Dale Hollow Lake, which I will die on the hill that is the best lake in Tennessee. It's a little far, though, that's the only pole. Is it really that like... It's one of the only shale rock-based lakes. So, like, when you go to a Percy Priest or an old hickory here, it's mud base. So you, you know, even if you touch the bottom there,

you get that mud, the sticks, some of the, you know. But is it that much of an argument that you have to die for this? Oh, I will. I grew up there. So it's one of those where... Like, I'll die on the fucking hell. Like, who's coming at you about it? If you want to come at me, yeah.

Bull away people. So hopefully that's what's in store. But, yeah, like you said, the boys got a week off after that. So necessarily, I want to say we're more excited about July 5th of the 10th than this weekend. I love that. And we don't even have to have a little bit more responsibility. Yeah, but it's still. Daily tweet, have them in the bag.

Yeah, we'll have a couple in the bag. Make you keep up with the content because we'll be rolling out also next week and here's a really good pod. I'll still all be coming out. Yeah, yeah. I can do it from an undisclosed location. I love that. It sounds like it's going to be on that lake, but.

What do you got, JP? Here we go. Here's where we learn. I'm not going to tell everyone. All right. What do people want to find you, man? J.P. Hovey's in town. If you want to find me, you ready?

Yeah. I'm going to be in Key West. You're going to Key West for real? Yeah, they have cheap flights on Saturday. My God. You're going this Saturday. Yeah, I was hoping. For how long?

Well, I'm going to go to Key West, and then I'm going to go to Fort Lauderdale, then I'm going to come back. I was really holding out for an invite to the lake with Jack. The lake invites there. But it didn't come. Were you actually holding out for a lake invite? I was.

I brought it up to him. I said, oh, what are y'all doing for the fourth? I brought it up at NASCAR. What are y'all doing the fourth? Oh, probably the lake. I was like, yeah, that would probably be sick. You know you always got me. I just said it.

You know you got the invite. I'm going to the lake this weekend then. All right. Come on. We'll see if it happens. You follow them on Twitter. We'll see if this collab happens. They've been enemies the whole time.

Garrier G. What are you doing? This weekend, I'm going to be spending it. We got family coming in on Butch's side. We got the Nashville 4th of July show on Monday, so I'll definitely be doing that. Fire. Yeah. a lot of fun.

But he puts in a lot of that. His team, they put in a lot of work. So got to be there for that. Yeah, we got the Nashville show on Monday. It's the biggest fireworks show in the U.S. tune in. Yeah, that fires me up. And it low key makes me,

it gives me a little fomo already because the last couple of years he's invited us. Because of COVID, we weren't able to make it happen because that one had to get canceled, right? But I remember, like, when you came on, Butch and I had had lunch, and we were talking about,

he's like, yo, we need to get the bus down there for Fourth of July, like in the action and everything else. And I was like, a kid in the candy store, like, you do that? Now he'd probably, you know, he'd probably have to pay to get the bus down there. I'm just fucking with you. Butch Slav. Yeah, because he wanted to pass out Butch Slap T-shirts. Because Butch was one of the first five, six people on the bus.

Man. He'll have to come back on in maybe like a year or so. I'm riding high boys. Like, I know I'm going off on a tangent. This little top podcast thing doesn't really mean a whole lot of anything. but it's really cool to see the whole number one spot. Number one right now. What's up, one?

What's up, Chan? What up one? Before we do our favorite, shout-out, no-free shout-out segment of the week, make sure to tune into the yak tomorrow for the case race. Today is Wednesday. Everybody listening, obviously we're in here on what day is it? Tuesday. Oh, so it's Tuesday right now.

So tomorrow, this drops. we filmed the case race oh yeah it doesn't come out until Thursday so as you're listening tune into the yak on their YouTube channel Thursday for the case race myself and Shane Gillis is joining the yak squad can't wait to fucking chime in

JP knows who's my partner is who's my partner it's the birthday boy Nick Nick oh let's go hey that fires me up dude and then it's big cat little sass shit rival hey rivals become your idols man i know hard up to work with nick bro he's a wrestler because i know he can get down roan and shane and shane i mean shane it's from what it seems like i've seen the photos like it seems like he's a machine

Shane is probably the team to beat or big cat here he's right here there you goes case phrase teams team one big cat and little sass once again team two uh roan and shame team three nick and will team four kyle and Owen, Team 5, Stephen and TJ. It's going to be a fun time. I can't wait. I can't wait to see what goes down. I think my face paint, I have my face paint. Should I tell it? Yeah. I think that's what I'm doing.

I'm going to wear my, you guys know how I have the red, like the red shirt and it's got a huge wolf face with the NWO on it, and now I'm just going to go sting face paint. That's not bad. I'll just say you should do Darth Mall, but it's very similar.

You might have just It's similar. Something right there. Similar, but I know you're a Star Wars guy. Yeah. I shave my head and do a full Darth Mall. You won't shave your head. I won't.

But could you imagine? I'm nervous to shave my head because I'm scared how it grows back. If I'm being honest and vulnerable right now with you guys. If you listen later in this episode, you'll find out how you can get it back, though. That's a good point. Dude, we did a... All right, we'll do shout-out, no free shout-out, because I know we've been rolling on a hour-long, like, intro. So how long have we been going, Blas?

We've been going for almost an hour. Well, yeah, this segment has been 26. Yeah, so if you want to, if you're listening right now, and you want to fast forward, hit that hour mark. You get into the Brian Erlacker. Again, if you're a Chicago guy, you don't want to hear all the fluff and the bullshit that we sit here and have the high vibes and camaraderie.

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What you got? What's your shout-out? No free shout-out. My shout-out of the week actually got stolen this week. And you'll find out who stole it later on in this episode when we get to it. But I had to call an Audible and I had to go with the glass of water on the nightstand. There's nothing worse. Wow. Okay, Blah, you're going in with something real, boy. There's nothing worse than having to get up in the middle of the night and go to the refrigerator to grab a glass of water, to grab a glass of water, to grab a power ride, whatever you need.

But when it's sitting there on your nightstand and all you got to do is reach over, don't even really have to get up. Take a sip, go right back to bed, and here's the best part about it. When you wake up in the morning, you ain't got to worry about that stank breath. Whee!

And you'd be good to go. So shout out. I'll tell you this too, because there's nothing when you hit that, when you hit that lean over and have that cupa down a few times, it's nothing, but you silence and hearing yourself drink that water, bro. If you're like for me, Charles Like if you got somebody next in your bed, you're just wondering like, do they hear me right now? Just housing this water.

I love that shout out. Jack, that's a tough follow up. Boy, you got a big dog. Yeah, that's got to be Bloss's best one. Don't know if I'm going to be able to beat that. But mine ties into what we did this weekend. So shout out, never shout out. I guess to NASCAR, but also to VIP experiences.

All of us boys know. NASCAR did it right. Whoever is in charge of the VIP or like accommodations for fans, they just had everything taken care of. Everything was really easy. Accessibility was on point. We could walk anywhere, do anything we wanted. Food was there.

Drink was there if you wanted it. All around, just being a very important person is there's nothing quite like it. So yeah, shout out, no free shout out to the VIP experience. And a little side shout out to NASCAR because they did it right. That's a good one. We did have a good time. Like that we got treated well. That shit was fucking awesome.

JP, you have the floor, big dog. Let's hear it. My shoutout, no free shout out, goes to one of the biggest alpha moves ever. And it's especially good if you have brothers or if you're like a large gathering. When somebody says, hey, man, I can't open this. And it's a jar.

And everyone's around you. And then everybody, especially you have older brothers, they're like, no, man, you can't get that. And you just hear that. Yeah. you just look at them. Hey, that's a good sound. It is.

It's a great sound. That would be a sound that should make like top sounds list. It's a sound of validation. Ooh, talk to them. You said something right there. Yeah, because it meant something. You don't know those times, man.

Those times I couldn't open that jar. Yeah. But yeah, that's my shout out. Nothing feels beta either than like. I know. I can get this. Can you get this? And if they get it within the first two seconds,

you're like, fuck, hey, I loosened it up for you. I would rather not have it. Yeah. Like just toss it, man. Right. I don't want this. Gary, what do you got, Big Dog? Hey, those are good.

Yeah, those are good. Those are actually really good. But my shout-out, no free shout-out of the week, is going to an experience that I got to witness from my car looking out the window. It's when you turn 16 and get your driver's license. I saw some guys.

We were rolling. I saw some guys. in a parking lot, looking at their friends jacked up truck, getting hype about it, dapping each other up, hey, let's go for a spin. They just drove around the parking lot like 10 times. But that feeling of finally getting those keys, driving off, and you just pile in the truck with your boys. Nothing better.

So my show, no free shout out is getting your driver's license. Yes, yes. Hey, and JP, you're right about getting subs, bro. Like I had a rugged fucking rusted like blazer, like a 93 blazer. That was absolute, I mean, I love it. But it's one of those things you look back on in love. Now like when you got it, you're like, fuck. Like, can you guys just buy me a car or something?

It was just a piece of shit, dude. But the boy got subs one day. And you're riding around in just a trash fucking vehicle with subs. But you think you're the man. You can't hear a single lyric. All you hear is. Yeah. that Mike Jones was hitting two back then.

Mike Jones. Hey, that's a good list, boys. And I really think I'm going to round this out as possibly potentially the greatest shoutout, no free shoutout segment in our bus in history. All right, so here I'm going to do mine. I don't have this elaborate bit or this elaborate plan, but fellas, it's getting hot out.

Summertime is upon us. In Nashville, specifically, it's been nearing 100 degrees for like the last 10 days. and it had me thinking one day because I saw the ice cream truck going. That's not what it is. But it made me think of this shoutout, no free shout out. Because you would get hype when you get these frozen treats. Mine specifically.

My shout out, no free shout out, goes to the leftover juice and a popsicle. Dude, when you hit that popsicle, bro, and you get near that half and low key, you know how you're like take your index finger and your thumb and you're playing with the ice you're fucking playing with it at the bottom it's shooting up a little bit you're like should i just end this ice right now and then have i get i get half of this stick of juice that's freezing cold and it's hot as fuck outside i'm sitting in the shade taking a little break you just play with the ice then you like you pinch it up to where you can grab it and you can take the ice so you savor that juice left over at the bottom of a popsicle that is my shout out no free shout out of the week and i am fired up about our shoutouts boys

Now, before we get into the Brian Erlacker episode, I'm sure we've ran an ad. We might be running another ad. Who fucking knows. Just a reminder that you guys are listening to this on Wednesday. We're back to our original programming. I love that I get to say something like that. We're back to our original programming every Wednesday.

I know it sucks. Trust me. We're working on adding an element. You might see the boy a couple times a week during the season. Who knows? Still working on year 10. But once a week, the way we continue to stay toward the top guys, because the two a week definitely helped.

Continue to subscribe, re-subscribe, do all this stuff. Make sure you download the episodes. But we zoomed in Taylor for a little segment so the boy could be with us for a shoutout, no free shout-out. We catch up with him on Canada. He does the tear talk that we partake in with Brian Erlacker myself. But I know I just stole an hour of Brian Erlacker's time. The dude is a fucking legend.

I got to sit here with the Hall of Famer. When I was growing up, Brian Urlecker retired in 13, the year I came into the league. I know, nine years going on 10. But Brian Erlacker and Ray Lewis were the backers that you fucking watched if you were a middle linebacker. It was the Chicago Bears. I'll never forget the game where he had like 25 tackles and forced to fumble at the end of the Arizona Cardinals game. But you watched him and Ray Lewis.

And the fact that he came on the bus through a lot of adversity of getting him on the bus that day, you'll hear about it, was like a dream come true. I literally texted my dad on the way here saying, hey, I'm about to hang out with Brian Erlacker. He's coming on busing with the boys. and he just puts, oh my God, that's awesome. But knowing, like, I used to watch games with my old man and watch Brian Erlecker specifically in Ray Lewis. Shout out Ray Lewis would love to have you on the podcast, brother. But watching those dudes, like, that was it if you're a linebacker.

And we got to have him on the bus. So again, we're going to jump into this Taylor segment, and then it's going to be Brian Erlacker. Taylor was about 20 minutes long, 20 to 25 minutes long. If you want to fast forward, again, if you're here to watch Erlacker. But shout-out, busts with the boys, no free shout-outs, biggest of hugs and tiniest of kisses. boys we're here you're here

dude it's been a fucking wild ride boys I haven't been in nature for God knows how long haven't seen a human being I feels like two weeks is it straight to see your beautiful face Is that the lake behind you? No this is

I drove down from the mountain This is where I'm just saying right now You want a little peach? Yeah yeah yeah for sure That thing is magnificent Hey listen I'll take you on it Just a quick little piece. I'm not going to show you the house, but for all the kids watching, you kids work hard.

You guys just keep working hard, all right, kids? Just keep showing up every day. You guys just keep doing your thing. But you're in the middle of- If we had this in America, we plute the shit out of this right away, dude. We drain this shit and turn it into something cool. Oh, that looks like Percy Priest, dude. We got that right here in Nashville.

Hey, that's just grimy. in Nashville, bud. I'm not, hey, listen, no offense to Percy Priest,

but I went to Percy Priest one time saw a whole bunch of people out there swimming with ducks and shit, like, just in the water

with ducks. And I'm like, that's nature, bro. I, dude, I own ducks. They shit every six seconds. So if you're in the water, those ducks are just

shitting all over you. Hey, can I tell you something? What's up? Your eyes look incredible in that hat. Your green is really popping right now,

and the lighting is really good. I like you look good. I swear. Stop, dude. I bet on a new skin regiment, dude. It's called sunblock. Oh, you've been using the ESPF?

Well, you know my rule. Like 20 minutes. No sunblock. And then you fucking powder coat this thing, dude. I was like, I was like someone who signed the Declaration of Independence. It's like powder fucking everywhere. All right.

So how long do we have with you? Because I know, I know you're camping right now. You're like, for everybody listening, Taylor came down from the mountain, drove an hour and a half down from the mountain, just to get cell reception. just to be on, just to be on his podcast, busts with the boys. So we got a limited amount of time with him.

I was literally on top of a mountain yesterday doing this. Just like trying to see, to get one tweet out. And the only thing I saw was that Rich Eisen was trying to get a hold to me. Oh, dude, I know. I'm so curious, too, what that date is. Because, yeah, he's alluded to coming on. He says, like, I have one date that I can actually do it. But I'm trying to get a hold, Taylor, and his voicemail inbox is full.

Yeah, I sent him a voicemail. So I came down. here's a little deal of how my life is going right now. I can't tell if it's going well or not. Like it's really, when you're camping, you don't know if you're doing well or not the whole time. Like you're literally a part of this. You're kind of just like surviving the whole time.

So for me, I'm out there doing my fucking thing. I just realized I'm yelling at all these people down by the water. I'm going to close the door, even though the sun was just doing me so many favors. That's almost more pale now. So like I'm up there doing fucking whatever. And I come, I drive an hour and a half every day.

into Colonna, get a grimy, gritty workout, dude, a fucking gritty workout. Then I come back, take a protein shake to the head, and then cruise back up and go camping with my family again. And every time I go back home, I'm thinking, I hope a bear hasn't gotten them yet because there's literally fucking bears everywhere. I haven't seen one, but people say there's bears everywhere. So I'm going to take their word for it. So I get down yesterday.

I come back down to Colonna and my phone starts blowing up, which at first, you're like, It makes you feel really good. It's like, oh, man, my friends want to talk to me. That's so nice. But then you get like a level of anxiety. Like, oh, there's shit going on that I, you know, I need to figure out. Yeah. And the first thing I see is Rich Eisen trying to get a hold of me, trying to call me,

miss phone call, no voicemail because he calls me that guy. So I call him back. I leave him a voicemail basically in a sentence and a half, explain what I've just explained to you. And then he calls me. I'm taking a Tuesday. And I'm about to get back on the road. He gives the boy a ring.

I pick up. I say rich. It's tail. He goes, obviously I know I was calling you. And I said, okay, what's up? And he goes, here's the date. He gave me the date. Oh, you know the date.

I know the date. Do you want me to say the date? I'll let you know something. I'm not going to say the date. Okay. Because I got good news and I got bad news. It's outside of the 19th and 22nd window, isn't it? It's not in between July 19th and 22nd?

No. It's not even close. That's what I thought. That's what I was thinking. But he, do you want the good news first? the bad news. Feed me the veggies first. All right. He's not coming on this early. And it's not his

fault. It's more my fault because camp, this whole fucking football thing is getting in the way yet again, dude. Yet again, football just fucking ruins my life with this because Rich Eisen can't come on the bus. The day he gave me, the day before that, we're off.

But the day after that, we're back on. The day he wants to come on to the full day of practice, I texted stretch, Rabel's secretary, he told me that, and it's a bad deal. Now you want the good news.

I would love the good news. The good news is that Jack has to keep working hard for the Chevy Soberato, and that to me, like when Rich called, when Rich called me, and he goes, hey, I got a date.

I'm going, he literally goes, I'm doing the Hall of Fame induction on the Sixth, Flex. And he's like, I got to go. I'm going to like, where's that place

that Portnoy's always joined? to. He's going to Miami. Nantucket. It's like, Nantucket. It's like,

Nantucket? Yeah. Nantucket, yes. Nantucket, yes. He's like, I'm going to Nantucket with my family for a, a week.

I'm like, in my head, I'm like, this you just was a fucking different life, dude. He sold the soul of the devil, and the devil's like, I want your hair, and you can have the most success

in the world. He's like, deal. And that's like literally how it went for rich. And he's just murdering life. And so he's like, but I can't from Ohio, come from Ohio right after the Hall of Fame

and then boom, the 7th come in and we do the podcast. And because he goes, he feels bad. He's like, I don't want people to think I'm a bad dude for not coming on. So I'm kind of here telling people it's not Rich's fault right now. Rich wants to come on. Rich tried to come on. The boy just couldn't make it work.

And I told Rich, I said, hey, I bumble to get you can't come on. But I'm so happy that Jack's got to earn the Silverado. Right. He's earned the fuck out of the shibbe. Did he have a shibirado after a month of work of just tweeting every day.

Like, yeah, that would be, it'd be a tough look on us for sure. Oh, dude, it'd be like, what do we get about next? What do we get up for a hundred day? Brand new house. Like, what is fucking? We got to sit the bar a little lower.

If it's like 60 days in, here comes Rich. Garrett, JP, Blossade all be in a row, like waiting to have one-on-one meetings with us, being like, hey, when can I get this new? Yeah, yeah, when can I get this new truck, bro? Fucking trying to get some extra porridge. Football's always getting in the way now, bro, because I tell you this, and you can leave whenever you want,

you can leave the game whenever you want. want to because the boys, I don't know if you saw Twitter today, I know you've had bad service, but I hit in the group chat, we are number one on Spotify right now. At the moment, the boys are fucking number one. So whenever you want to be done and just run the podcast world, it's all here waiting for you, brother. I just miss you guys, you know, and I want to stick it up a little bit. Here I am.

For what it's worth, I feel, I feel it's like, if it's 100%, I feel about 40% of your energy. Because you're on screen, you know what I mean? Like, we can't sit here and go back and forth. worth. Yeah. Yeah, dude, it's been, I'll tell you what, it's been awesome recharging the batteries. I'm literally, as I'm like staring off into the distance, looking at this gorgeous lake. People literally, people, I've watched, I've literally watched a human being do this. And if someone do this in America, I'd probably put them down because they're going to turn into a zombie. Walk up to the lake with a glass, an empty glass, fill it up and drink it.

And if you do that in America, I'm literally, I'm calling the police or putting you down because you're going to turn into a zombie. you're going to die soon. You're going to die. If you didn't drink the water, they're having a fantastic time. People are so nice, but I will say this. I've been profiled on three separate occasions. Well, three separate occasions. And it wasn't a great feeling.

I'll be honest. I was at a grocery store. And it was a nice grocery store. It was a really nice grocery. It's like a Whole Foods and a Trader Joe's and then some grocery store, like all organic, blah, blah. And I walked in looking like a absolute bum. and I'm walking around

I got my bat people are buying like three items at a time I got this grocery cart filled because facts and I'm walking around I'm going through the aisles

and I fucking I see some little small Asian lady like kind of peek her and it was like a like just a peeking her head around the aisle

and I'm like is she fucking looking at me and I look and I catch eyes with her and she goes like this if I can just say this she catches eyes he goes, she's out of there. And I'm like, they think

them, and no joke, 10 seconds later, a security guard follows me around the rest of the place. They definitely thought, tall, white guy with tattoos, that guy's for sure a drug dealer. That's what they thought. Yeah, I mean, you definitely give up a vibe,

like you're like an intimidating cat and, like, what are you, six, seven? Six, seven. I've been an intimidating guy until I opened my mouth. And then I were like, oh, he's, it might be 12th. He looks like he's 70. but he might be 12.

This is a bit of a deal. How's the bit of a deal. How are you? Hey, we're all doing good, man. Like, I know we've talked about the FOMO because we had Josh Allen on last week and then tied in you. God and NASCAR, bro. Like, we've been having fun and grinding, like, the whole mix.

Like, picture busing spring tour for the two days, but stretch it out for like five. But it's been a lot of fun. The boys are doing good. They're excited to have their week-long break. JP won't tell me where he's going because he doesn't want, he just wants to keep his strictly business.

He doesn't want to connect on that level. He's like, don't worry about me. But everybody's doing good, man. You guys have a super business relationship. He texted me where he was going the other day, and I was like, you're going to have a great time. You're going to love it there. But I can see how you guys want to keep a professional to two of you.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Have you been thinking about your favorite segment of the week? Oh, you're talking about Tier Talk? No, we'll get into it, to your talk. Or shout out of the week. Yeah, shout out. No free shout out of the week. Are you ready?

like should we hit it? Do you want me to go do you want me to go around to the guys or do you want me to do do your shoutout, no free shoutout of the week? And then also your tear talk. Like I don't know what kind of timeframe you're in right now. Yeah, let me take the time. I got seven minutes before the bears were calling. I got seven minutes. Let me, I hate to be a selfish cap, but I'm going to have to hit mine and go.

No, that's fine. That's fine. Because I want both of yours because the tier talk. I know you listen to the voice about. Were you able to watch JP? Did you send them the clip of our tier talk? And I have a couple questions. I have a couple questions about. the tear talk real quick is you said Jenny's ice cream

which you can postmate but then you messaged me and said you didn't say nothing about Dairy Queen because you'd have to go there but you could also postmates Uber eats Dairy Queen and so my question is is why Dairy Queen closes a lot earlier like Jenny's you can get all night around

and Jenny's like pints of ice cream you can have sitting in your freezer you know what I'm saying okay like that's something I feel like you can put and have like you can have five of those things in the in the freezer like dairy queen you know I don't want to I don't have it at all I get it right right and I don't want to shit on dairy queen because you know I love them more than anybody else I do think that the best ice cream in the world the soft serve but when you order it on postmates they don't feel it all the way to the top and then they don't put the candy all the way through and I've had a couple like I've gotten to the point to

where I've wrote reviews back you know what I'm saying I got refunded my money so I understand that That's why I don't post my stay. I get that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's start with your shout-out. No free shout-out of the week. Okay.

All right. So I'm sure all of you had a great one, Bloss. I hope you got all your words out correctly. I'm very happy for you. I hope you weren't rattled too much. I hope Will didn't treat you bad this time. I will say my shout-up of the week is going to have to go, and it's kind of in line of what we talked about is normalizing dudes, typing dudes.

And when I did have self-service, right before I went into the Great Unknown, searching for the Yeti. I looked online and I saw Ernest was named the number one songwriter in Nashville, Tennessee. And I think it's so fucking cool to see this borderline homeless person come on our bus two years ago, wearing camel pants, I'm pretty sure some bullshit-ass taintop and crocs. sit there and Will and I literally thought, who the fuck is this guy, become a friend and watch the glow up

like he's just shooting into the atmosphere. He's definitely going to absolutely destroy me to 300,000 followers on Instagram. He's already, it's just, he's murdering it. And for that, Ernest and hyping Ernest up and his success is my shout-out, and he'll be shout-out of the week. Yo, I'm fine. That's a really good one.

And you laid that out really well. I will say when you said the number one songwriter in Nashville. Blas lost his mind in the back. He threw up his hands. It seems like you took. It seems like you took what that's what his was going to be. Yeah, dude.

Oh, man, poor Bloss, too. Just trying to get us on this FaceTime, he's probably so rattled and now he's got to like, he's double rattled. Yeah. And now he's looking at his phone. He's trying to find like a new shout-out. No free shout-out on the week right now.

He's rolling his eyes. He's throwing his head back. But what I love about that shout-out, too, is Ernest has been, How long has Ernst been off the alcohol? Like four months now? He's put out his accountability to lose weight. He's cut his hair.

Like the man, he's getting right. He's on the come-up, dude. So I love that. That shout-out fires me up. Dude, I feel like if you take a couple of pounds, a couple, several, a few pounds off Ernest, you might be looking at a Dirk's Bentley cat. You know what I'm saying?

Like a handsome boy. He might be. I mean, you've seen some old photos of him. Like when he's not looking rugged, he's a decent looking cat. Oh, yeah, I'd let him hit. Yeah. Especially in high school, you kidding me?

You know, he was an all-star athlete pitcher. You could throw the shit out of the ball? You think he's not, I'm not letting him take me? Yeah, I'd let him beat cheeks, dude. Oh, there's no question, buddy. So that's a huge one. Now, and do you want me to, and you guys probably cut this off or don't cut it up, it's almost even better, but do you want me just go into my tear talk?

Oh, dude, there's a fucking deer. Do you want to see a deer? Yeah. Yeah. to the fucking deer. All right. So the tear talk of the week was late night snacks.

You watched the video. You heard mine. You heard Brian's. You can comment on either one. And obviously, the floor is now yours. Okay. All right.

Here's a second. The stairs. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how much you fucking grind, boys. You hit stairs. It's over for you. All right.

This is a difficult one for me. This whole tier talk was difficult because it's really very vague. So I guess, and I heard the way Earlecker put it, I didn't like his delivery. I thought his delivery could have been a lot better of making us feel it a little bit more. Yeah.

But he got to the point, which is great. He's been like a no-nonsense type of guy. Loves his junk for a dough. I love how you served yours up. I wasn't a huge fan of your tier one. To be honest, and I'm not trying to like I don't want to get off this phone call

and have like the issue between us but I really think Jennings is probably the most overrated ice cream I've ever been apart Hey hang on JP I don't disagree with that statement JP was mad that I said it because you got to spend eight bucks

to get that pint of ice cream which I don't I don't disagree with like you got Ben and Jerry's like you got a lot of credible brands out there that you can dig your spoon into but I've been on a very like Jenny's Genese is like, I walked in there as a rookie and it's like, do you want to try any?

And I was like, sure. And there was like one that was like cherry and goat cheese. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't disagree with that. They got some offside shit in there, which is like whatever. The gooey buttercake.

The gooey butter cake is what pulled me in. Like, that's what, that's my go-to there because you're right. They got a vibe in there. They're like a little better than you. Some bougie ice cream. So I do not disagree. I do not disagree with that statement, boys. I just specifically the gooey butter.

cake has been tickling the boys nuts lately. And it's been tasty. Yeah. But I'm excited to hear yours. I'm excited to hear yours. Yeah. So my tier three. Okay. Don't do it. Don't do it. Stay focused. Yeah, you're right.

There's so much nature, dude. I'm thinking I'm becoming a nature person. My tier three is going to be a generic, like a sour patch kids, like a like a gummy candy. And I'm not proud of that. I'm not proud of that. I'm not proud of. of that, but I think that if I'm in a car wreck or, you know, he's a little banged up, dude, and it's a Tuesday. And you see a patch of, like a section of Sour Patch Kid Watermelons just sitting there, not even open yet, talking shit, staring at you, it's going to catch hands. And there's no doubt about it. So I would have to say that gummy candy, I'm a sucker for the gummy candy, dude. Sucker for gummies. So that's my tier three. My tier two, and because I

heard you say jenny's it made me go local um but i think this place and it's probably got just as much hype as jenny's i don't think it's overweight i think it's pretty incredible and that's a box of five-dollar donuts i think that's god even the assorted and when it comes to donuts for me i'm a pretty like you know if i go to crispy cream as a kid you get that lucky day you have a sleep over with the boys you go to crispy cream or something like that i'm getting glazed only i don't need none of that chocolate shit on it or sprinkles or nothing. When I go to Five Daughters, it's pretty much, I'll take whatever, whatever you got there, dude. I'll take absolutely any kind you got, they're all delicious, they're made with love, you can tell, it's unbelievable.

And my T-O-1, I don't know if this is, no, they definitely have this in Tennessee. But my Tierra one is going to be ice cream, but more specifically a pint of ice cream. And that pint of ice cream is going to be the birthday cake remix from cold sauce creamery. I'm not a fudge guy. I'm not. I don't claim to be. But when they put that whatever ice cream there, I think it's like cake battered ice cream, which is so much.

Yep. And you take the fudge, you put that in there, and then they take the brownie and then make that nice little, kind of like when you take your spoon and you put it on your mass ios before you put the gravy before Thanksgiving. And they put the brownie right in the middle there and they smash the shit out of that thing. and then they drizzle the fudge on it and then bank them sprinkles huge sprinkle guy at my eyes from I love

the texture they banked the rainbow sprinkles they mash that up and they put it all over your mouth I think and if you're in a car wreck and it's a Tuesday like we talked about before you can't miss dude that shit does not fucking miss now

I'm not as proud of my tier three as I like to be but my tier two and tier one I think you're undefeated why would you not be proud of your Saur Patch kids With all the late-night snacking you got out there, dude, I think you kind of can't miss a whole lot. Like, you got your go-toos you're walking in the pantry. If you find some Sour Patch kids, then that's your vibe. Then that's your fucking vibe.

Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. I appreciate you being there for me and supporting me when I can find the strength to support myself. And that's a real friend. Yeah. I, dude, I will say this. It seems like you're living a good life.

You've got five daughters bakery, a stack of donuts just laying around the house for some late-night food. Because that donut is, that donut is fucking incredible, dude. The 100-layer thing that they do, where they get the little cream in the middle, too, like Charles was a purist, that one's fire. But I love, like, Taylor's saying, the assortment. Like, they got a King Kong, which is like a maple with the bacon on top. And then, like, the white cream in the middle.

In between the layers. Strawberry shortcake, dude, I do. I think Five Daughter's Bakery fucks hard. Yeah. You, like, the Coldstone Creamery, I think, is, you know, that could be. be a debate. Speak your truth. Yeah, you're speaking your truth.

I do think that could be a debate because don't you got to go to Coldstone Creamery to get it? You have to go. You could, you could post-modate it. Postmate the same way you postmate your Jenny's. Okay. That's why I did that instead of Dairy Queen because you left Dairy Queen alone. And I think if we were replaying this game right now and we were like, hey, Dairy Queen's on the table, you know what we're doing.

We both know what we're doing. What do you mean? You got a video. You got evidence of what the boys doing. Remember? Remember that? Hey, you may love that thing, boss. Did you have, well, when was that?

Bro, we were in a little bit of a banger at my old house, not the one now. That's when you just had gotten COVID the next day because we shared that. The night I got COVID. Right, right, but we were sharing the same spoon and everything and your boy was COVID-free after that. And you were like, hey, Code Red, the boy got COVID. Go get checked. Dude, Will, hey, I'll say right here, Will can't get COVID. Can't do it.

He's he's super human. All you people freaking out about COVID. We all should, but Will, you do whatever fuck you want, buddy. Like, you don't even need to wear a mask. That's true. That's why I never did. Yeah. I mean, even the airports, I remember watching you take it off.

And then you try to pin it on me, but yeah, I mean, you can't get sick. Will Compton cannot get sick. Dude, but I remember that, I got to find that video. Because you didn't just eat it. Like, you didn't say, hey, let me get a bite and you grabbed it and did it. Like, let me get a bite. And then you stared at it like. You have no idea.

What I'm about to do to you, motherfucker. I know. I was the foreplay you put on that fucking spoon. I was like, oh my, he's living in a different world, dude. Yeah, because you kept up. He's at a notebook playing in his head. Whenever I would, uh, whenever I'd post about eating or something, you'd always put it under that tweet.

That's me just fucking, like, drinking the goddamn dairy queen. Oh, bro. I got to find that shit. All right, boys, listen, it's 12.7. I'm already seven minutes later. I got to go. All right. Love you, brother.

Hey, I love all of you. Will? I love you the most. obviously I don't need the longest. But boys, and JP, have fun where you're going, dude.

I know you're going to have a blast there. It's right up your alley. Can't wait to hear about it. All right. See you. Boys, Jack, keep grinding. Keep grinding, buddy. Get that Chevy Cibranos.

I hope you find a shout out. No free shout of the week. Garrett, the merchandise king. Oh, dude. Will send me a picture of new shit we have coming soon? Fucking cancel all your plans. Because when this shit comes out, it's selling out like that. It's so fucking good.

And Garrett's the reason. He fucking put that you. He's the merch god. Dude, he's the merch god. The merch god. So boys, you fucking, you all killed it. You guys are all killing it. I miss you.

I have FOMO. But I just saw a deer. I think I saw an eagle fly fly higher earlier. So I'm kind of having a good time too. All right, brother. See you, boys. See you, man. All right.

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but have fun, drink, responsibly, drink, Revitalite. How good was that burger? Oh, dude. Why is... So we went on a, like, a spring tour for Bus with the Boys, and we went to, like, we went to my alma mater because Taylor's got a Luan Nebraska one.

Oh, there you go. Okay. I'll ever speak that one. Gotcha. Then they hooked it up. I can't make you really happy then. For what? Seeing that, Michigan?

Do you know what's coming from that? Those visits? That right there is I, Jim Harbaugh, agree to make the number. Nebraska, Michigan game, the bus and bowl. So we have both coaches sign off. Well, both coaches agree, yeah. Okay.

Frost is like, if you get Harbaugh and the AD on the AD on board, I'm all in. We went to Harbaugh, Harbaugh was all in. He was fired up. He signed that piece of paper. Our lawyer, our legal team Jack back there wrote that up. It looks authentic, man. Yeah. It looks legit.

And now we're, I just messes with the AD from Nebraska like a few weeks ago and showed him the video of everything. He goes, bro, let's do it. I'm all in. What conference? Nebraska's in the Big 12? Big 10. They're in the big 10.

They move to the Big 10. Also, they can play. What did you say? They're in the same division. Yeah, so they're going to play the next eight years. There you go then. All right. We're going to get a big trophy made.

It's going to be like a monstrous, like a bus trophy. It's got the steer horns on the front. It's going to be heavy as shit. I like it. Hopefully like 50 pounds. Yeah. And dudes are going to battle for the bus. Hopefully like 50 pounds.

Yes, bro. Trying to like hold it. Every year is better. I like that's going to look funny. I like it. Dude, so we got Brian Erlacker. We have had the most adversity on the bus that I think we've ever seen in a day. I'm sitting in my house.

Taylor sends me a voice message. He's like, hey, bro. I'm running a fever right now, and I got strep throat. I got tested and I have strep throat. My tonsils are swollen and everything else. I'm like, oh, fuck, well, I know he's going to have FOMO, not being on the bus. Talking with Brian. FOMO.

But, and then I get a, the power goes out of our house. I'm thinking, oh, that's no big deal because it wasn't raining too hard. And Bloss is the group chat saying the power's out of the bus. I'm like, what the fuck? like hopefully it comes back on because it stops raining. Then I get a call from Peggy. Who hooked, did the booking for you and hooked it all up. And Peggy hits me up and goes, hey, they rerouted Brian to, where'd you end up, Knoxville?

Yeah, they rerout Brian and Knoxville. I'm like, yo, this is fucking crazy because you're supposed to be here a couple days ago. And then all the delays happen. Everything happened there. Yeah, it's unreal. I'm here now. Hey, we made it happen, bro. We were sitting here shooting on the hoop outside and stuff.

The power came back on. Got you some Hugh babies because you're starving. Unbelievable. You're fucking around with the airlines? They just don't like me. I'm worried about, you know, I'm supposed to go home, home after this. We'll see. I'm worried.

Where have you been? Because you were just on the McAfee show, bro. It was, yeah. So I went from, um, what is today? Friday? Today is Friday. So I left last Thursday. And I went to, uh, Florida.

Played Jordan's place on Saturday. No, I played the Grove on Friday, Jordan's golf place. Went fishing Saturday and Sunday. And Marco, MJ. Yeah. Nice flex. Yeah. Yeah.

So his place is great. The golf course is unreal. You guys are Chicago guys too, so. Well, I played there. I'm not from there. But are you guys boys? So we remember the same golf course in Chicago at Marrick Club for, shit, I was there 15 years.

Michael was probably there 30 years. Okay. I see him out there all the time. Didn't play a lot of golf together. We always saw each other. Yeah. He's great. He's awesome.

Always super nice to me. He doesn't have to be, but he always is. And the idiots that bring with me too. And then I went back to my place of Marco and fish for two days. Supposed to come here on, was it Monday? Tuesday? Tuesday, I think. It was supposed to be Monday.

The whole schedule got thrown off by, by something. I don't know what happened. And then I was supposed to come on Tuesday, right? Tuesday afternoon. Tuesday. And Tuesday I was supposed to be here at 7.30 because Taylor had training. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mini camp. I don't know what hell it is anymore. Mini camp. And then flight got canceled or delayed, canceled, drove to Orlando to try and make another flight to get here. Delayed. So I ended up flying to end. I love the grit, though.

I love you trying to make it. I was trying to make everything. I couldn't. Then I'm going to Chicago after the match. McAfee show, spend the night there, come here this morning. I spent two nights in Chicago, actually. I saw my brother and my nieces. Then came here and I'm here.

And I'm going home to Arizona today. Yo, is that pretty much a glimpse at the retirement life? No, that's shitty. I don't like doing all this stuff, man. The retirement life is golf, fishing, riding my bike, just hanging out, man. Just relaxing, but it's been hot. It was 1.15, like four days when I was gone. So I did miss that.

Is Arizona enjoyable in this time of the summer? I still like it. I know it is in the winter. Yeah, the winter's great. I don't mind it. So here's the way I look at it. So in Chicago, on the winter, can you go outside and do shit? No.

No. So in Arizona, if it's 1.15, I still play golf in it. I don't care. I mean, it's great because I lose a ton of weight. You know, I can still eat like shit. I can still do what I want to, and I can lose weight while I'm playing golf after I ride my bike. It's great. Bro, I saw the clip with Foreplay about you talking about how shitty you eat.

So bad. You did when you played, too. So bad. I got a little better the older. So when Rusty Jones, Rusty Jones is our restaurant. strength coach. I want to say my fourth, after my fourth year, he showed up. So five through 13, he was our strength coach. And I had no idea about, I just ate whatever hell I wanted to. And I still doing rusty out there, but I was more, like, he was like, you got, get your carbs, get your carbs.

So I did eat more carbs when he got there, but I ate, I just like junk food. I like donuts. I like candy bars. I like pop tarts. I like cookies before I go to bed with 2% milk. I did go 2% milk instead of whole milk. I love chocolate milk. Chocolate milk is good for you after a workout. You know that, right? Yeah. Of course you know that. So I just like, I just like, oh, I'm just like, like food, man. So I ride my bike now as much as I can, so I can eat whatever the piss I want. You're much smaller in person. Thank you. I'm just fucking.

Oh, damn. I thought you'd be taller. I was like, oh, he's down there. I'll get my back. Yeah, yeah, he's a short guy. 6-2? 6-1. 6-1? 6-1. 6-1? 6-1? With the with the shoes on. You know what I'm saying? You're at the Combine guy. Tallest 6-1 guy. I wasn't a combine guy. Really? Yeah, come on now. I'm good. I hear you. The combine

did me some good. I mean, I was projected high, but, you know, I was a quote-unquote small school. I didn't go to Nebraska. You know, I didn't go to Nebraska. I wasn't a freaking big, big-time schooler. So I went to the University of New Mexico. So I didn't get a lot of looks. But they had me projected high, but the common line really solidified my spot.

Dude, because you were a safety in college. I was a free state. I was like a rover. We played a 3-3-5. I was like, I was free in the middle all the time. But I just did whatever I wanted to. It was unbelievable. So they built it around you.

Yes. Well, the defense had, it was called the Lobo, the Lobos. Yeah. But there was a guy played the same position at UCLA before. I don't remember who's the safety guy. I'm not good of remembering, but he played the same position I did when Coach Long was at UCLA, and they just made his position for a lobo at you and him. And you were a receiver in high school?

Yeah. Were you a beast? I was pretty good. You know, I was slow. I mean, tall, skinny white guy, but, you know, I scored 20, like 25 touchdowns in my scene. We were state champs. We were good. Receiving touchdowns?

25 total. I think I had six punt and kick returns, two rushing, and the rest were receiving. And then I had no defensive touchdowns in high school. 14 and 0, state championship. Oh, look at that. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, we got our guys back to there. Oh, I like that.

Yeah, state chance 14.0, nationally ranked. I don't know how we got nationally ranked because if we played anybody that was good in another state, we got throttled, but we were good in our state. How fun was it winning a state high school championship? Pretty badass, because you think of, we have one high school where I grew up. How big is your town you goes? You grew up in a thousand people? 4,000 people, yeah.

In your town? Yeah, in our town. Oh, that's bigger than, oh, that's more than I grew up then. Yeah. So we had one high school. We're probably similarly, we had one high school where I grew up, and you go to school with all the kids, like our senior class, there's like 13 of us, and we all played from seventh grade on together.

So it's cool, so we lost the state championship in my junior year. We were 11 and 4 in an artesian business state championship, beat them in the regular season, my senior, and we went up going on to Wednesday. Super motivated going into your senior year. Oh, hell yeah. All the bulletin board material. Lost state championship.

Our eighth game of the year. Our starting quarterback. ripped his ACL in the second quarter of the eighth game of the year playing Artisia. And then my boy Brandon comes in and we go six and no with him and quarterback. Still slinging it? Oh, yeah. You guys got to hit the run game more. He could sling it.

Well, he really threw it to me a lot. Brandon was our quarterback when I was in eighth and ninth grade and then he didn't play because he's a good basketball player. So he set out his junior, sophomore junior and senior, thank God he came out. Because if he doesn't come out, we don't win it. Right. Because the guy gets hurt. Why don't you think you guy recruited much out of high school? I don't know.

I wonder about that. I just, so I went to a camp at Texas Tech before. before my senior year, I was the most outstanding camper. It was like 500 kids. I was like, definitely going to school. They gave me a scholarship for sure,

no doubt. They gave me the most outstanding camper award. They're like, you can come walk on if you want to. We just, we don't have a scholarship for you. And I couldn't afford it. I got to meet Zach Thomas in the wait room that day at their camp.

We'll get into Zach. I heard that clip. Fucking Zach Thomas. I heard that clip on the Mac of the show. Anyway, yeah. And I was at their camp and then they just, they're like, you can come walk on.

And I took a trip to U&M. And Coach Fran was like, we loved it off your, I was a lot of my few scholarship, but if you don't take it right now, we're giving to somebody else. I was like, I'll take it. That's my only offer I've ever gotten. I took one visit.

I was supposed to, the Nescoe State called me two weeks later, but I wasn't going to go with there anyway, the Aggies. But so I took it right there and that was it, that's the only place that's off of me. That's fucking crazy. One visit, one offer, that's all it took. Now, how old are you? You're in your 40s, right? 44. I'm old.

I'm old. I know. What was recruiting like, because it's so much every now. We'll talk about your son here in this day, too, but like, what was recruiting like back then? Like, how were you trying to get noticed? Was it just, like, go to camps? No, I went to one camp. Yeah, I think they didn't have.

Was it the huddle they have now for all these kids? My son always shows me these videos and shit on his phone. I don't know what I'm not. You can put in your bio on social media now. Like, 400 plays. I'm like, damn, but it's all practice, though. But back then it was, I guess, I used to, I get a ton of letters at home back then. I, Colgate, what's, Cornell sent me letters.

I had Ivy League's recruiting me. Obviously, they didn't offer me a scholarship. But I took one visit, U.N. was like, we'd like to bring your official visit up here. My parents drove us up, and that was it. That was my recruiting experience. One trip, one visit, one offer, and that was it. And now are your head coaches or coaching staff trying to help you get recruited? Or are you guys not a very big school that didn't really experience?

Well, they tried, but we just, we didn't have a lot of kids to go. I was the only guy that went to play D1 football at my high school. I think maybe there might have been a couple guys to walk on after I left, but we don't really get a lot of scholarships down there because we're a small school in New Mexico so people don't think we can play football, I guess. I don't know. Pisses me off. We're good.

We were good. New Mexico is kind of like, it's kind of like a... Well, it's kind of like what? No, no disrespect, but you know, you're thinking about the state. It's not a powerhouse. New Mexico kind of like just goes up under the carpet, it does. It really does. So you got Florida, California, Texas.

You know, they have good high school football in Arizona as well. They had a lot of... My son's team last year had a kid go to Ohio State. I can't go to Iowa State. I could go to Princeton. Two receivers went Ohio State and Iowa State. Unreal. So that's what sucks about Taylor not being here.

He went to, is it Chaparral? Shaper. Really? Yeah, I went to... Oh, so they're good. They got a good team. They got some dudes. They won state, I think, in the last year they went state or loose state.

They got to the state championship? Because they had a five-star kid there. He's like a D-N. The D-N. He's a badass. He's a good player. I think they lost an state championship to Highland. And so that's the, so there's two different state championships there.

There's the open, which is the one Chandler plays in. There's eight teams. It's the eight best teams in the state. Yeah. They play for one, the big state championship. And then the other teams play for the other one. If you don't get in the open, you're playing. It's still a change.

State championship, but it's not like the big, big one. It's weird how they do it. It looks like the losers bracket. I didn't say that. I'm not sure what they call it. But you got a son though, and he just got a, he's getting recruited by like Iowa. Yeah. Kennedy got an offer from, one of the guy I played with, plays for, or coaches for Iowa.

Lovar Woods, there's special teams coach there. Lovar was played linebacker with Chicago. Good guy. Good guy. Yeah. He was a, he played at Iowa. Yeah. He played at Arizona.

I think he also played in Detroit. Like, good dude, though. So he's their special teams coach. And he called me. He's like, hey, we're going to recruit your son. I was like, cool. What I need to do? He goes nothing.

And then he shows up one day. And he calls me like a week later. He goes, we want to offer candy a scholarship. I was like, oh, he's going to be so happy. Because my son's a big dude on his own guy. He don't want me to do shit for him, which I appreciate. You know, I don't want to shit for me. But it's hard because of his last name, I think he's going to help a little bit.

But he's been busting his ass. He's getting like 40 pounds in two years, just all muscle, he's growing a little bit. But they offered him. and then Arizona State offered him two weeks to go. He's got an offer from Arizona, northern Arizona, and the most important one, the University of New Mexico offered him first before anybody. Does New Mexico have a shot in hell to land him?

I hope so, man. I don't know. It depends. I think, so the head coach at U.N.M. was my roommate in college, Sandy Gonzalez. Okay. Man, I hope so. It would be fun to watch him go.

He probably do pretty well there, I would think. We just don't get a lot of players at you and him. And you know what's stupid about, not stupid, it's good for the players, but the NIL money? These dudes are getting the best. basically played him to go school. Oh, yeah, it's going to become like a free agency. It's all it is now.

I was talking to some college coaches. Leverage, like they're going to have agents. Like, yes. And your son, what, what years he going into? He'll be a junior next year. Yeah. So that's fucking crazy that he's getting recruited that early. I don't understand it either.

I just don't get it. I mean, you got offers, but so say they all take their offers back. I mean, that one happens. Well, if they get, how can you get out like 50 offers year where you can only give 20 kids scholarships per year, right? That's a good point. I don't understand how you do it. It's still confuses a shout to me, but I'm glad that his school.

is going to be paid for hopefully. That makes me happy. And probably with some more on top. Maybe with the NIL money, yeah. The NIL money. I'm sure he'll develop. Yeah. The last name.

Hey, you know, too, like, you've been around the scouts and stuff. Like, when guys have, like, pedigrees behind them, they get, like, a little extra, yeah. You get like a little extra boost. Like, did you have a pedigree? Did your family?

No, we don't, no, not really. You would know your teammates if they had, like a dad or somebody. They would talk it up and they'd be like, they'd be like an extra boost. You got a little bump there. Yeah. that helps him. He doesn't want that. He wants to do on his own.

How much, what percentage you're going to take from? Nothing, no, man. For housing him, staying in your house. If he does get any of that. I'm not, I'm not counting on that because he's not a quarterback. He's not a receiver. It's not a quarterback. I mean, he's a free safety. And he may not be a free safety if he goes to college.

You may be outside of my back or a corner. Who knows? That is true. You never know. Because it could be. It'll be at the end. Were you, now, were you 6-4 through high school? Yeah, I graduated high school, 6-4-190. Oh, skinny ass.

Skinny ass. Yeah, that's a nice way to put it. I was benching 225 coming out of high school one time. One rep. No way, bro. No, I did 245 for one rep. That's what's crazy. My son does like 275.

I'm like, dude, that's more than I did when I was in high school, my whole career. He might eat better than you. Does he eat better than you? He eats a lot. I know that damn much. My daughters eat like birds and he eats everything in sight. Yeah. Crazy.

But yeah, he's just strong. Did you not know, like, going into like college in the NFL? did you not know how to eat? Or people would tell you and you were just bawling. So you're like, I mean, I feel good. Yeah. As long as I'm playing good and I'm not like lethargic, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing.

Never crossed my mind. So this is 1990. When I went to college, I graduated high school in 96. So food, diet wasn't a big deal. I didn't know anything about it back then. And in college, it's all about get as many calories as you can because you have a hard, I had a hard time keeping weight on.

I mean, I gained 30 pounds my freshman year. But it was all, I mean, that's the first time I took Creighton, the first time I actually trained because in high school, I went football, basketball, basketball track. And you stop and you work out for the summer. So I never had a chance to really gain weight and eat right. Not even eat right. Just eat, you know, a ton of shit to gain weight.

Yeah. And take the weight gain shakes. But in college, you know, they feed that stuff to you. So I gained my freshman year. I just kept getting faster. The more weight I gained, the faster I got. Crazy. And then in the NFL, it's kind of like, yeah, defense a rookie the year, like, I'm fucking balling. I wasn't like that. It was stressful, but I still

didn't eat good. Yeah. So, yeah, your first year, you get drafted to the Bears, in your first year, you're, like, slated to be, like, the strong side backer, right? Yes. I read somewhere to where you got, you got benched in the first couple games? No, I didn't even make it to a couple games. I got benching in the first two weeks of preseason. Roosevelt, Colvin, Perdone, he went to Purdue.

Rosie's a good guy. So they drafted me to, and they started me right away. Rosie was so pissed. He was moist. Like, they benched Rosie because Rosie was a year ahead of me. And then during training camp, you know, I'm a, I'll play free safety. So I don't know, no idea how to use my hands in the box. and I played Sam, so I'm on the tight end every time

doing this. If he blocks down, go spill. You're going from safety to fucking strong sidebacker. Yeah, if he blocks down, go spill, the power hammer. I'm like, oh, fuck, I don't even know what this. It happens so fast. I could guard the tight ends, obviously. That wasn't a problem. But then in week two, after

I get benched, I'm the third down nickel Mike linebacker. Now, why did you get benched? Because I sucked. I was terrible, Sam. It's terrible. I kept fucking up. I couldn't do, like, I knew what I was doing. I couldn't do it, though. Nikkaz, I was so bad. And then third down, I was playing Mike, so I was good to go, you know, just running around, whatever.

But then in week two, we played Tampa, Barry Minter gets hurt the second quarter, hurts his back. Greg, Blasios, go play Mike. I go, Greg, I never played. He was just run to the ball, man. Just, you know, you know what Sam does fit where he doesn't, and just run to the football. And then I started every game since then. Dog, it was really like that. It was a conversation like that.

I was like, Greg was like, just run to the football. I was like, fuck, I can do that. I did all right, yeah. It was nuts. You kind of have nothing to lose when you go in like that because you're like, oh, fuck it. I can kind of, you can mess up a little bit and they're not going to coach you too hard. We lost 42-0, but it was 35-0 at half. When they were telling you to go in?

Well, we were down 35-0 and Barry gets hurt. I'm like, great. So the game didn't matter. Obviously, we're down. We're going to lose anyway. I think they scored three touchdowns on defense in the first half the day as in Tampa. And I think we lose 42 or nothing. So that game didn't mean shit.

But we were competitive. We were 0-4 and we ended up being seven or eight and eight that year. Oh, no, no, bullshit. We were 5 and 11. We were 4 and 4 our last 8 games. We were 1, 7 after 8 games. What am I talking about? You go on and be the defensive rookie the year.

Yeah. Was it kind of just like a light switch when you played at Mike Bagger? Yes. Did you play a Mike Backer during training camp? No, just 3rd down. Just 3rd down. You know, I'd play, like I said, nickel third down.

You know, Barry was a little older, so they put me in there, thought I would do better. But you know what was crazy is how many sacks I had my rookie? I had eight sacks as a rookie. I'll bet you I didn't get blocked on six of those ones, six of those sacks. we would you know the DN stunts or whatever you run the long sticks and I would chase them never got blocked it was crazy it's like they didn't know I was ever going to blitz and then

I had a couple picks but just tons of tackles and eight sacks was pretty good for a middle lineback I was the most of the head 125 125 I believe NFL stats yeah NFL stats are bullshit that's true what you have in team one 778 no shit the actual tackles that's a rookie that's a rookie yeah that's fucking awesome bro 16 game it was around 10 a game but we we and my Brown? You know Mike Brown is. Of course you know who Mike Brown is. Yeah. He was our free safety. He was after the same year. Yeah. He had like 140 tackles. That dude was a badass. He should have been rookie the year.

He was a bad dude. Yeah, I mean, I think he was a bad. I think it's just to say because he won rookie the year. You know what I mean? I mean, that dude was, he walked in the building day one. He was the starter. He knew exactly where to fit every play. He knew what I was doing. He knew what he was doing. He knew everything. Smart's football player I ever play with. Not even close. Nebraska. Yep. Nebraska. And Arizona. So I think he went to. So, so. In Arizona, yep. Oh, you're talking about high school? High school? Yeah. Arizona cat, black shirt.

That was one of the black shirts. That's when it met something. That's, yeah. Those two are bad asses back then. Tom Osborne. That is one. Grant Wistram. Jason Peters.

There was another D.N. that played. Grant Wistram, Jason Peter. They had so many guys. So my high school coach was a Nebraska fan. So every time we went to, we had to watch some things. I couldn't tell you the backers were then. What was it?

Treve Alberts? Trevor, was he number 94? I know Trev was there. I'm just not sure if you, I don't know what years he was there. He was the first round pick. Yeah, he was good. He's a D now in Nebraska. Is he really?

Yeah. Good for him. Whittakes. Ready keep it in house, Nebraska. I know, right? And you got Scott coming back. That's great. I love that hire, by the way.

They just got a win, bro. I know. Is that quarterback going to be there another year? Martinez? It's like 17 years he's been there. He's still eligible? Hey, those are different Martinez's. Oh.

Martinez played with me, Taylor Martinez. Martinez. I know that, but this kid's been there for like 17 years, I feel like. Yeah, he's been there a while. I think it's like, what, six years? Maybe? Is he going into a six year? Everyone got.

He's been, yeah, that's true. Yeah, the extra year. So it's different. But then all the guys are transferring. It's crazy to me how they can just transfer now. No, we deal. Yeah. Go on and play right away.

No sit out. No deal. No doubt. Yeah. Crazy. Starting off in that first part of your career, too, like going to 05 when you become defensive player of the year. Yeah.

You go through a coaching change, a lovey in 04, and you guys kind of have like a really mediocre year in 04 and then you become defensive player of the year in 05. Talk about the coaching transition like what that was like playing for Lovie for a long time. My first staff we had, my, it was Dick Jaron, was our head coach, and Greg Losh, our Dukorner, they were unbelievable. I love playing for those guys, but it was just, I don't know, man,

they didn't have a lot of faith in the offensively we're struggling, so they fired that staff. I was super pissed when they fired Coach Duran. Really? I had caught. You get attached to the guys, four years with him, and then Lovey comes in, and I'm like, but then I met him. And then I started, I mean, that defense was phenomenal.

From what I hear, they wanted to trade me when he got there. Lovey's never confirmed this, and I've asked him about it, but he won't give me an answer or give me the answer I want to hear. But let's- He'll never give you, he never gives you an answer. Oh, big guy, you know, we wouldn't trade you. You're a Hall of Fame or blah, blah, blah. Anyway, but allegedly there were some trade talks.

I didn't know this until afterwards because the middle lineback in that defense was so insignificant. It's the will. You want the will because in the 4-3 that Lovie ran, the Derek Brooks, Lanspriggs, those are the guys that made all the plays. It wasn't the middle of linebacker. So I was early on, man, they rank cover two. If it was a pass, my ass was running down in the middle of the field.

You turn and run. That was how they ran covered two. You got to start opening your hips no matter what, right? You can't get me down the middle. That was the rule. And thank goodness, Lovie adjusted. We adjust it. We called it the bear two. It wasn't Tampa 2 anymore. And then I could actually read the receivers. And if someone went deep, I could go with him. If not, I could kind of sit down

play the check down the tight ends whatever and now and then we did blitz a lot more and we were aggressive of a shit like if it was right if we were an eight man front and there was any kind of play action or run we ran through our gaps downhill it was a past oh shit react to the past late but we were downhill uh cover two we were little slower but our d line number's so damn good we could play a seven man front and didn't have to worry about it we could have to blitz nothing are you doing the stuff like uh did you play from marinelli yes so we're so when you're in tampar are you guys having pirates and stuff going in front of you to where you could just great. Yep.

So, you know, Lance. That's a love, bro, especially when you're just overlapping each other. So all I did was Chase Lance. So the D& would run the pirate, you know, the three technique goes. We had Tommy Harris at three technique too, so we had some dudes in there. And then you got Pep running the long stick and you got Lance chasing him. And if it's flow run, I'm just chasing Lance. I'm usually wide to fuck open when no one's blocking me.

And they're running back spous out there to the corner. And the corner, peanuts out there throwing the receivers the ground making a play. So, you know, punch, dude. Dude, peanut was the man. Not just the punch, but the way he played the run. run, man. Those receivers, he bitched those receivers. He would literally get him up and throw him to the ground and make the plays, tackles for loss.

So our seven-man front and cover two is were really a nine-man front because our corner's forced so well. Yeah, we were good up front, man. The only other team I can think of that I got to watch was like the Niners when it was P. Willis Bowman, they ran a two-shell and it was like... Those dudes were good. Because they had Justin Smith, Alden Smith,

all these freaks, bro. Dude, Navar Bowman was such a good. Patrick's good, too, but Devaro Bowman to me was badass. I like watching him. Who did you think was better out of him and Patrick? because they're both so fucking good. I think Patrick had more success, but Navarro to me was a guy who just kind of kept, I think he was a middle linebacker, right?

And then Patrick was the will, correct? I personally, no, I like Navarro better. I don't know why. I like Patrick a lot, too. They're both good players, but Navarro to me kind of, I feel like he was just like a gritty guy and he got it done. Yeah, stout, too. Not that Patrick wasn't.

It's like, you're comparing aliens, bro. You take one I'll take the other. How about that? And we're both going to be happy as hell with the result we get. Dude, so I want to, do you have any good stories about Marinelli? So I got to play with Marinelli. I was with, how long was I in Vegas, like five weeks this past year? Oh, this year you were?

Yeah, yeah. So he was there? Oh, he was there, bro. And he's got to be 74, 75 now, right? Bro. The limp? Yeah, he's got the limb going. Yeah, the big fucking.

I don't know what it is. Yeah. So it looks like something's growing out of his leg at times. Yeah, it does. There might be something going on down there. I was only there those few weeks, but the respect he seemed to have. by the team and the defense was incredible. Like, you just want to be around the guy.

Because, like, you can see he coach guys hard. Yeah. But the way he taught, you know, 4 equals 1. And then he do the videos. But she doesn't, like, the night before the games, did he run the, oh, dude. Or he does, like, the funny, like, videos where he shows, like, whales or lions hunting. Like, you want to run. We watch those on Saturday nights before games.

You want to run through a fucking wall after our meetings. He's like, can we play right now? Bro. He would show these meetings. Like, it was, I used to love meetings with that, dude. But so Nellie, like, our walkthroughs weren't walkthroughs. They were him trying to embarrass us. Like, we would go out there for half an hour before lunch.

We'd have our walkthrough every day. And me and Lance, like, hey, let's fucking go. Then I can get us on one play today. Yeah. And Lovie's over there on the scout team. And Nellie's telling the line, you know, I don't know how y'all walk, y'all's walkthroughs were, but he's like, hey, come off double this guy and get up to, he's always tell him the lineman what to do to make us think it was something that it wasn't.

And our walkthroughs were so challenging just because they always tried to embarrass us. And same way with scout team. It wasn't scouting. It was embarrassed at defense time. It was great. But there was nothing like we weren't prepared for. Like when the ball was snapped, every single time when not just because of him, but Coach Babbage, Coach Smith and Coach O'Rear was there for a couple years as well.

But you knew exactly what to do every single play before the, like, there was no doubt in your mind what to do, every position. There was no gray areas. Dude, the, the pass rushers, everybody was just, they loved them, bro. Like a dad, like when they, when Bessachi and that staff kind of got fired, Gus Bradley, because he's now,

Marinelli now in, uh, Indianapolis, I believe. Nelly and Gus went there? I believe Nellie's there. I know, I know Gus is there.

I love Gus too, by the way. Dude, he's awesome. He's great, man. And simple cover three, bro. I know,

just wrinkles in all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like a weird hybrid cover three where there's wrinkles, you know, each week like in preparation.

They all run the, uh, the four or the wheel routes get them every time. Yeah, Some stuff can turn into like main cover. Yeah. I'm glad I didn't play that.

It's always like one call. I know. Keep it simple. Yep. It was always keeping it simple, bro. We go into a game with five calls. But Nellas. We go in there with over two, over one, under 10, and two blitzers.

And then third down three calls on the third down. That was it. Keep it simple, especially on Thursday night games, which I loved. I love Thursday night. Those are the best because you don't do anything during the week. Nothing. You get done Sunday and you're like, yo, we have a post game cigar. And then you're like, yeah, we're playing on Thursday, boys.

Like, you're ready. And the game plan is nothing. And it's usually a division game so you know your opponent. Super easy. But Nellie was great for me, man. He challenged me every day. And he'd be walking down the hall and you'd send me and goes, hey, big guy, you're going to have a great game this week.

You're going to do this. You're going to do this. Always talking positive. Even if I heard some games, obviously, I played like shit. But he wouldn't. And the great thing about that stuff is when we played and lost, like they're always positive. Our meeting was always like, oh, we did this and that. When we won, it was a bitch session.

It was like opposite of what it should have been. You know, you think if you play good and you went like, oh, this is great. When you play good, that's when they come in there and nitpick you. I guess that's the way it's probably should because you're probably thinking your chest is out. We play good. We're good as shit. But I know what you mean because there was like an energy about it, like with that staff. Like when you felt like you had a bag in because we got our ass with one game against KC last year, like just fucking got.

Yeah. After you beat them the first time. Yeah. But absolutely murdered by them. Yep. And that next week was kind of like, it's just like a weird, the way they're like coaching you because it's like you're trying to find some of the positivity. It never happened. Yeah.

You're trying to find messaging that kind of get you over it. Because those, I mean, I guess sometimes you have those games. You know, you're just going to shit the bed. Yeah, no doubt. Sometimes you're going to have the games where you go the other way. But, you know, it happens. And fuck, it happens at every level, right. When you win, they just want to keep your ego and check.

That's it. You don't want to beat you back down. Don't get. Rhebel's the king at that. Mike Vribal with the games? Oh, bro. Because he played like fucking 14 years. He played forever.

He played for a long, I mean, you played 13? Yeah, but not. So he played for Belich. That's a little different. Bellichick, man. And those coaches that coach with him and the players that play for him, they're different. I don't know what it is that he does to them or how he does it. But fucking guy just.

It's extremely detailed. Yeah. We were detailed too. Here's the difference. The accountability is sky high. Here's a difference. They had a quarterback. We never, not that we didn't have a quarterback.

We never had a quarterback like where you could go, all right, this dude is going to win the game for us. We didn't really have a guy like that when I played there. Jay, Jay was that guy at the end. They were only played like two years of a day. And we weren't that good around him. But Brady, you know, even if they should have to the bed. For sure. Brady could win it for you.

You got a beast. And before that, you had Bledsoe. And, like, obviously Brady was, I mean, everybody knows Brady's the fucking go. Yeah, he's the best. Yep. No doubt. But I will say, like, playing for Vrabel and then the Raiders in Washington. And having, I want to say, I have five different head coaches.

What was your coach in Washington? I had Shanahan. And then I had Jay Gruden. Okay. And then I had John in Vegas. Yeah. And then in Tennessee, I had Rable. Their coaches then.

I like all those guys. Yeah, they were fun. Big Gruden guy. I like John Gruden. Which one? John. I don't know Jay. I know John.

So I know Jay mostly because I played. I was at Washington for five years before I left. Then I was with Raiders one year. Yeah. But it felt like I knew John because like when he was doing the, like I was like a Gruden grinder one game. Yeah. Oh, you got to sit and do like a media thing with him. So I felt like I knew him when I got there.

And because him and Jay are brothers. Yeah. But I didn't like spend the most time around because he's such an offensive guy. Yeah. Oh, I'm cussing the offensive guys. That's how love he was. Love he barely even go to the offense. He was always with the defense.

Yeah. Just the way it goes. Which can be a gift and a curse. Yeah. Well, our defense has always played good. That's true. There's always a little lag there, right? On one side of the football.

But if you're playing bad defense, bro, and you have a defensive-minded head coach, like Vraib, like when we would play bad defense, bro, it's just like... It doesn't look good on them. It's bad. And then the whole fucking mood on the team is like, he's like, no matter how good the offense does, it doesn't matter because you guys stunk.

Exactly. And you can win the game. It'll matter. You win the game by like three touchdowns. The defense plays bad. You're like... We're done. Yeah, it does not matter.

But I do feel like with Vrabel, and I've talked about this before, but the detail that they have with like their organization structure and the way they communicate, like every day you start off 8 o'clock is a team meeting and Vrabble's up there for 30 minutes. Talking about quizzing. He would quiz you on offensive stuff or he would quiz you on defensive stuff for the other team. Yeah. So you would have to know what the offense needed to know.

In front of the whole team. In front of the whole team. Wow. You know how your asshole gets tight when you called on from the whole team. That's accountability right. You can know what the answer is. And you're still thinking, like, I'll just give you a minute. I'm just panicking right now.

I know. I feel, yeah, for sure. But that's every day. And so everything was always carried over, like, team keys. Like, the clarity of how you were going to win is always panicked. You all knew. Whether it's in the team meeting and then you carried over into position. And then at the end of practice, you'll be called up.

It'll be like, comp, what's the offensive? What's one of the offensive team keys? And you're like, fuck, I'm defensive special teams. Yeah, what do I? You're like trying to nudge an offensive guy like, hey, what is one? But it's like that type of. wants to know how you're you all to know how you're going to win the game as a team collectively. Right, right.

Well, I've never heard of that. That's amazing. And if you're like, say, a defensive lineman, he'll ask you, like, hey, tell me about, tell me about so-and-so, the offensive lineman, who's going to block you? Like, tell me about him. And you got to, like, give, you know, you got to give some, like, bio details. Where do you go to college at? Like, very, it's, it's like that.

But that's, I think he, I believe you learned from the Patriot way. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I mean, and accountability, obviously, that's what that's what Belchette talks about, right? No doubt. Yeah, no doubt. I never heard that before. 30-minute team meeting, grilling both sides of the ball in front of the team.

I used to get getting called out in defense meetings. Like, we watched film after the games, you know, and I'm like, fuck, just not going to look good for me. Like, Dan, did they put this play in there? Oh, you know, and I know it's because my coach was a dickhead. I love him to death. Coach Barberts, but I know he loves to embarrass me in front of the team, the defense. Yeah.

Brian, number 54 on this play. Look at him here, coach. Coach Brian here. I'm like, fuck. That's a loaf. That's a loaf. That's a lofer. This is, what kind of tackle is that?

just, it's so embarrassing because, you know, in front of your peers, you do not want to let them down. It's just the worst feeling, man. But you know, everyone in the same room was felt the same, and the room was felt the same way. Yeah. You know, all of them guys, they were on the field like, you know that they're going to have a play like that in the game. So, that's the way I looked at it. Right. No doubt.

So, though. Don't want to be that guy. Playing early in your career, like, I want to ask, like, what was it like playing against Michael Vic? Oh, he was the grace. I love playing Michael Vick. You guys, you held him to 18 yards. And I'm talking, you guys, this is prime Michael Vick.

I'm talking about Mad No 4. You're using him on the video game. He's unstoppable. We never lost to Michael Vick. In my career, we never lost to Michael. I think we were 5 and 0. We were 3 in O in Atlanta and 2 in O at Philly. But, man, I love that, dude.

I just, there's something about playing him. So our game plans were always keeping him in the box, keep him in the pocket. You can't. He's going to escape. But we could run. We had D. Lyman that could run. We had linebackers that could run. We had safeties that could run.

And we just, we played a net around him. We, our D. Limeman would go up the field and it's boring as shit because they have to get up there. and, you know, the one arm and stop. And then keep your outside, arm freezers and you want them to go up inside to your backers. But we just played well against them. I don't know what it was about it. We got up for those games.

And we did really, really well against them. Dog. It was fun. I was fired up to ask about that. It's like being a kid in the candy store. Like, I'm playing all the, like, when you're going through the NFL, like I came into a league in 13 the year you retired. Yeah. So college, high school, middle school, like when I'm playing, you, Ray Lewis, like, you guys are the backers.

You and Briggs, arguably one of the best duos of all time. Yeah. Like, it's like, then you're playing against Michael Vick and stuff. It's like prime football fandom for me getting the fucking sit here with Brian Erlachran asking about these stories. Seems like so long ago, too. Like Michael was the man, like I said, when he got drafted, I was like, oh, shit, that's just going to be a problem.

You watch him run around. And then his rookie year, he got into the game against us because Chris Chandler was starting. And then Vic came in, I think the third, we were up like 31 to zero. We just beat that. We were a good day. We were 13 and three. And then Michael comes in and fumbles on the goal. and the ball bounces right to me.

I ran 90 yards for a touchdown. And then later, the next year, we beat him 14, 13. I had two sacks up there at, or down there in Atlanta. We just had good games against them. I don't know what it was. We didn't play scared. How about that? We knew he was going to make some plays,

but if we made enough, we were still finding a way to beat him. Yeah, you guys had such a good deed, too. He took the ball away. In Washington, like, J-no, Josh Norman was really good at the peanut punch. Yeah, you punch it out. And so it was always like the peanut punch was like the legacy was alive and well when we were around there. Everyone's doing it now.

There's a corner. I don't know who I was watching the game issue. And it's like they're cognizant. And I understand it. But the guys are getting ran over. But that ball comes, you see a dude's getting hit. He's going backwards.

Oh, there's the ball. He punches it out. I'm like, damn. Dude, they're running in there. Marlon Humphrey's really fucking good at it. He's in Baltimore. I like that guy. There's a lot of great players in the NFL, man.

It's fun to watch. But a corner will come up, man. And the, you know, the running back is probably thinking they're going to run them over. So they start lowering their shoulder. and they just popped the ball out, bro. It's crazy. In practice, it'd be funny watching, like, during training camp and shit,

when we actually got to hit, the receivers would catch the ball, and everyone would put, they put two hands on the ball. If peanut was around or if, whatever they were doing, it was two hands on the ball. I remember Brandon Marshall every time he was like, I'm not going to fumble. He ain't going to make me fumble. Every receiver would put two hands on the football. What was the light playing with B. Marsh?

Marshall was great. I want to play one year with Brandon, but just so the thing I remember about Brandon is, like, like, practice was started 1230. Brandon was out there 11.30 catching balls on a judge machine. Really? I don't know what time and practice. He was out there an hour early catching balls on the judge machine. Practice will start.

He stretches out, go catch the judge. If we were on doing something on even if he was catching balls in the judge machine, he was always doing something to get better. And I don't think you got enough credit for that. People always talk about he was this. He was a great teammate. I mean, he got in, he got his arguments. We all had spats, whatever, but that dude was a good teammate and he busted his ass.

I want to say he had like 10 seasons of over 1,000 yards. Like he's one of those. He's not forgotten about. But if you're talking about best wide receiver, He's somebody you don't think about when he, he like, low-key had one of the better careers. Well, because he bounced around. That's why. You know, he went from Denver to Miami and then came Chicago.

And then somewhere else after Chicago, right? Somewhere else. But I just, he was a good team. The Jets. Yeah, he's with the Jets. Yeah, he just kind of bounced around a little bit there later in his career. But, man, he was freaking good. And I thought when we got Jay and then we got Brandon, I was like, oh, shit, here we go.

Our offense is going to be great. Yeah. And they were good, but we weren't as good on defense that year. What was it? And by the way, Brandon Marshall is crushing it. with I Am Athletic, the brand that he has. He does. I heard about, they have a podcast as well, right?

Podcasts as well. Very, like, high-end, well-done. Like, they crush it over there. Dude, man. Yeah, he's a big business guy. It's good. I like him, man. He was a good team, man.

I enjoy my time with Brandon. What was it like playing with Jay? You know, Jay's in Nashville now. Yeah, I heard. Yeah, I've heard, I've heard Jay's down here. I've heard different stories. He was good. You know, it was, I was so excited when we got him, man.

We drafted, or we traded two first-round drafts for draft picks for him and our quarterback, Kyle Orton, for him. in 2000, which I was pissed about because I love K.O. Really? That was my guy, man. That dude was great. He was a good quarterback. So we traded him for Jay, which, I mean, it was irrelevant because we got, we got

Jay Cutler. We were good. We got a Pro Bowl quarterback. And I got my, the first year we had, I broke my wrist. I missed the whole season. Broke my wrist, the first game against Green Bay and missed the whole season. The first year I was out. And then the next year, we go to the MC championship game.

We lose. He hurts his knee in the second goal. Everyone says he wasn't hurt. Do you guys remember that shit? Vaguely, man. Man, the media game. I know. You see all the antics of him being on the sideline and looking like he doesn't care.

Yeah, yeah. I've heard all that. I've seen all the pictures. So, they said, you know, he tore his MCL in the second quarter, kept trying to play. The media said he just, he just copped out because we were getting beat, whatever. What you think? No, he was tough. Jay was tough. I don't care what he says.

Man, that dude, he dislocated his thumb the next year and played the rest of the game. Yeah. Don't tell me he's a bitch. He ain't no bitch. So the dude played the rest as long as he could. But he was hurting our team by being in there because he couldn't throw. He couldn't step into a throw with a torn MCL. Right, because he had the cannon on them.

Yeah, do all you think. So you're talking about a guy that can make any throw? That's the guy right there. But I practiced, I'd be like, holy shit, holy shit. How was he getting these balls in here? It was unbelievable to watch them throw the football. But we just couldn't get it all together. I don't know what it was.

We just couldn't figure it out those couple years we had them. Because there was a time where you had mentioned, you had mentioned to the media that you feel like you guys lost your identity, running the ball, playing good defense because you wanted to, you guys were growing into more of like a pass-happy team. I think that's when the league mayor started. evolving towards that as well. But, man, when we ran the ball, we were really, really good.

There's a lot of years there. We were top five in the NFL and rushing. And it helped our defense, too, man. We were on the sideline, you know, you run it three times in a row. You get a first down. We're resting. And there was a lot, there were some times there. You get them a short field.

You don't turn it over in some bad spots. It hurts your team. So not that Jay did that, but it's going to happen with everything. But you look at Tennessee right now. You run the football, good things happen. Play good action. Play good defense. Yeah.

Because I feel like if you play good, or if you run the football, you're going to be fresh on defense. That's just, it goes hand in hand. Yeah, it opens up everything. Under lover, we always ran the ball. We always play good defense. Yeah, the Titans, man, the running game, screen game, play action game. And they got rid of that A.J. Brown, I could not believe that trade.

I don't watch the draft or any of that shit, but I saw a thing. I was like, they just traded A.J. Brown? Their hand was kind of forced, I feel like. By him. I mean, think about how much business goes on in the NFL. For sure. Yep, no doubt. You're like, you know, one, if you have the opportunity to get paid, you want to

get paid. Yes. Now, however, the cap, however the owner wants to have cash friendly money,

you got another year on your contract. If a player doesn't want to be there bad enough, it's going to be hard to find the happy medium. If they're wanting big,

big dollars. Yes, which he got. So, and I know that they loved AJ. I know AJ love playing here, but it seemed like there was probably a discrepancy

and what the asking price was because who paid old buddy down in, uh, what was the Miami? Somebody's nice to write from the Cardinals. Hill. That's right.

Oh, he got paid. Got paid. And that opened up the entire wide receiver market. So guys are like... He was their third guy, too. He was their third guy in Arizona, right? It was D.Hop. And then it was another good receiver.

Maybe it was a second. Yeah, Fitz was there. But this was hilarious. You're right. AJ Green, but I don't know if AJ Green was the actual two. Yeah, so they had some dudes because we live in Arizona, so we see all their games on TV. Not that they're the first ones I look for.

But we, yeah, he did get paid a shit to him. Good for him. So that opened up the entire market. So when all this stuff, going on. AJ sat out, was sitting out of OTAs. Apparently there was back and forth in negotiations to where it's like, Dan, if you're going to hold out

potentially in training camp or the season, that can really, like, knowing Vraib, knowing that culture, like, if you're going to disrupt that, like, damn, we got to make a decision now. So you kind of like had to cut your losses, try to get something from it. I get it. Yeah. And I mean, they run the ball. So, you know, true. I like Tanny Hill, too. I think he's a good quarterback.

Yeah. Took a lot of heat, man. He took a lot of heat, man. The Bengals game, that was it. Fucking Joe Burrell's good, man. man. Joe Burroughs a stud. That dude is good, man. He got an offense, too. Like, you got Joe Burrow on their rookie deal.

You can just build around them. You got to do it because you got to. All your line, pay the linemen, like. Oh, if they don't keep them upright, it's not going to be pretty. Right. Because that do gets hit a lot. But if that's-Marge, you're right, bro. Dude, it's unbelievable.

And you look at what, that's the same thing, Kansas City did. They got my homie. Yeah. And they got, you know, they're really good on his rookie deal. And then they pay them and, you know, you can't pay some other places. I know. That's the way it goes, you know. When they lose Cheetah to Miami.

I could not believe that trade either. Dude, the NFL can get wild. Weird. The drama. I don't get it. You stayed all 13 years in Chicago. Yes. Now, is that something that you all, you wanted to do the entire time?

I feel like there's got to be some good give and take there. I was never a free agent. I never got close to being a free agent. So they redid my rookie deal with two years left on it. They gave me a nine-year extension, which was. Whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on. Yeah, back then. Two years left on your deal, they gave you a nine-year extension.

Yeah. It's actually seven years because I had to play the last two years, but it was actually seven years, but they called it nine years because it was redo, blah, blah, blah. It was dumb for me to sign it. But it was a lot of money up front. Back then I matched the highest paid middle linebacker, which was good.

And then I got a one-year extension after five years into that deal. I got a one-year extension after that as well. Five years into that seven-year extension that was like nine years you had to play. Five years into that one, they gave you another extension for one more year. One year, it ended up being one-year $18 million. add on to the end of my contract, a bonus then, and then kick it at the end as well.

So I played all 13 years. I was a free agent at the very end when Lived Lovie, and then we couldn't figure out to do it for me to go back, which probably was better anyway because I didn't want to play for anyone but Lovie,

so it worked out perfect. But did you want to stay in Chicago? Did you want something to work out there? If Lovie was there, hell, yeah. At that moment, when you were becoming a free agent because you're obviously on the back end of your career, like you played 13 years. I was done.

You feel like you want to be done playing? There's a part of you. that's like, man, like, I don't want to be bored, like the camaraderie, like you're around the same guys all the time. Like, was there a part of you that was pissed off because you guys couldn't reach something? Yes. And then a part of me that was happy as well. Right.

Because now that you're removed, you look back. You're like, it was the right move. But in that moment, I'm sure that there was like, why can't, you know, I think. You're probably like, yo, I am Chicago. No, I wasn't like that. It was. I didn't like the way they handled it. You know, they fired our GM year before.

And I don't see how the fuck you fire a love you have to go 10 and 6. You fire Loverie, we go 10 and 6 We didn't make the playoffs We got Minnesota decides to beat Green Bay On the last game of the year And they haven't beat Green Bay in like five years They beat Green Bay

Not just out of the playoffs And then they fire Lovie And I was like, what the fuck are you all doing? I just couldn't And then they didn't win 10 games Like the next seven years Anyway, after after Lovie left They had a hard time winning games

You're like happy and also like You want him to do well But like It's just like why fire the guy I mean he didn't I know why they fired him because the new GM was a weirdo, and he didn't like winning. So he fired Lovey.

Now, is the new GM that came in, the guy that you guys had to negotiate with? Yeah, it was Phil Emery. Guy I never heard of before when they hired him. They fired Jerry Angelo, who was a great GM. Jerry was there for my whole career. My first year, he wasn't there, then I hired him. He was there until 2011, and they fired him for some reason. So they fired him and Lovy?

No, they fired Jerry first, and then they hired the new guy. You know what, the GM now and the head coach are all married for some reason. But they fired Jerry, then hired the Emory guy, and Emery fired Lovey the next year and hired Mark Trestman. I remember that name? I feel like I've heard of Trisman. He's from the Canadian League. Okay.

He did coach an NFL, but they got him from Canada. So essentially, like, if you guys didn't go deep into the playoffs, they were going to let go a levy because he, what was that? Did you say Emory? Yeah, that's right. He wanted probably his guys. They wanted his guy, and his guy lasted a whole two years. Yeah.

Yeah. It's terrible. It's frustrating because I love the, obviously, I love that franchise. So it's frustrating to see the direction. went after if I are lovey. Where are, where's your relationship bad with the organization now? You know, I don't, I don't really get back there much, honestly. I don't, but everyone's like, do you watch an embarrassing game?

I was like, no, who they're playing this week? I don't really pay attention, honestly. No, if there's, if there's games on, that we have, we live in Arizona. I don't have the direct TV bullshit where you watch every game. You got to get on that, man. I'm good. I don't really, I don't need to. We have, we can watch the game.

Whatever game is on our TV, we can watch that one. And if I've seen an innocent game. And if I bet on a game, I can find it on my phone. Do you bet? You gamble? When I played, dude, people would be like, you're, oh, your three point, you're plus three this week. I was like, what does that mean? Plus three, I don't understand.

What does that mean? Don't worry about it. You got me? Don't worry about it. Yeah. You don't want to know. In five years, you can figure it out. But yeah, I had no idea when I played.

They're like, oh, the overrunners 18. I'm like, okay, well, I don't, what does that mean to me? What are you talking about? You're talking about the bears and plus three. People would tell me, like, when I played, I'm like, all right, well, what the fuck does that mean? Plus three, I don't understand. Now I know what it means. But yeah, so if I buy out on a game, I can follow it on my phone or whatever.

But usually we get some, we get Dallas in our area, which is good. I grew up a Cowboys fan. Same. Did you? Oh, yeah, bro. The 90s, man. Emmett Smith, Michael Irvin, early 90s. Early 90s.

Jay Novice. Yes, Bill Bates. Let's go. Warren, Woodson, Kent Norton, Leon, let come on now. Charles, I can go on about there. Calvin Harbor, Michael, we can go on. We'd be, my dad and I, we pretend to, yeah, Moose Johnson. Oh, my favorite.

You pretend to be those guys in the backyard, front yard, wherever the case may be. Like, we're, we're cowboys, dude. Yeah, I love my brother. So my dad and I were, my stepdad and I were, we're Cowboys fans. And Casey, my brother was Redskins fan. So because, you know, you got to go out of it. Right, right, right.

You got to go off. We were skins and cowboys in my house. Dude, anytime they won the Super Bowl, like we'd buy those VHS tapes, those sets that they would get, we relive the year. Yeah, relive the year of the season. Fort Sills coming out with this. Yeah. Get yours right off the press.

Look at that commercial, bro. We're fucking dialing deck. Can we get it? Yes, those are great. I remember. In the wait room, in our garage wait room, like we had the newspapers, when they, you know, three time. Yeah.

The dynasty. Three out of four. Oh, we had three out of four. We had three out of four. We had one time in a row. Right. Because they couldn't figure it out. Jerry, couldn't get along, man.

It can't get along, bro. Terrible. So, what was like going into that stadium? Oh, so I didn't plan out. They had the new stadium when I played there finally. So my, what year was that when I got hurt?

2004, I got hurt. We played them on Thanksgiving Day. I didn't play. I got playing Tennessee. The week before I got a compartment syndrome in my left leg. So I missed that. Thursday game at the old dollar stadium then i played twice in the 18t though unbelievable dude that

stadie and Dallas is eight hours from where i grew up in new mexico as well so we had a lot of people from my hometown there it was cool shit everyone both games more importantly it was cool as hell was that game in tennessee the game where y'all came down and like beat the absolute shit out of us that was my last year that was 2012 scored touchdown that game met a long had me right in the chest thanks matt 90 or it was a it was a deep one wasn't it was like 14 yards. This is why I had my knee brace on. I wasn't moving too. It felt like 90 yards. You guys had to been on the field, you know, at least 70% of that game because I want to say it was like 50 to 20 at the end. 52 to 12. Well, well, so we can, our SARS came out in the third quarter. The game was over.

And then Johnson ran for like 140 yards after we left. He had an 80 yard run. And then love it was like, y'all get ready. I was like, oh, we're going to have to go back in. And then the offense scored another touchdown. So we were good. But I want to say 51 to 20. Yeah. I think that was. But 2004, we won in overtime. Billy Volek was the quarterback. Adawali Lagunlei sacked him in the end zone to win the game in overtime for us. Safety to win the game. Doug, who, uh, man.

Good memories, you get in here. Yeah, these dudes are, these dudes are Tennessee Titans. What I remember about the Titans game in 12 was how many Bears fans were at that stadium? That's the, like, really tragic thing about our fan base. It is. And plus everyone loves Nashville. Especially as Nashville's grown to become such a hot spot. It's a three-day weekend spot.

coming in the fall you hit Broadway two days and you hit the game so even this year when we're doing really well we had like what was like the chart i mean um bills mafia came to town was moffia came to that was that was a good ass game dude that was a great game there's so many fans that travel for the bills in kansas city and kind of always is those big market teams that come in it like whenever the packers come in it down it's like everywhere they go so where the packers goes like we've grown up where we get overpowered and it's a it never gets any easier The Bears game, like downtown Nashville, what's, what you call it? Broadway.

Broadway was Bears fans just up and down the whole weekend. So they're like, it just overran. And it's not a long drive from Chicago down here anyway. But I had a bunch of, bunch of people from Chicago come that weekend, too. No, yeah, Nashville and Nashville's a vibe now. Oh, yeah. I like, I didn't enjoy my time here. There's so many fucking people everywhere you go.

That's true. So you walk down, is it Broadway, you said? Broadway. You got to, you got to get, you know, you got to go with the Mubberian. You got to. There's 6,000 people in line here. 8,000. in that line, 14,000.

I'm like, what if I came with my daughter. So I surprised my daughter. She came here for a friend's 24th birthday. And I was in Florida fishing, so I stopped off and surprised her. It came out for the night. And we went to someplace off of Broadway. We were the only ones there. I was like, this is the best place on Earth.

I love Nashville. And my agent lives in Franklin, so I went to Franklin. Those are fun places out there. And she's like, all right, we're going to Broadway. I was like, oh, let's go. This is great, blah, blah, blah. Do we get down there? There's no place to walk.

It's just like, and we did get into one place. and it was literally doing this. I had to go pee. I couldn't go with the bathroom. I was a little frustrated. So I'm not a big Broadway guy. It just depends.

Like if you're about it that night, like if you're like, you know, kind of like, let's fucking go to Broadway. Yeah. If you get, you're going to know some people.

If you went down to Broadway, all you got to do is just name, show your Wikipedia page just someone in your game. You need a Jack next point. You need a Jack. I need a hype man, Jack. I went down to Broadway last weekend.

Will didn't have his ID. So I just pull up his wikers. He just pulls on my Wikipedia. The guy and I was like, listen, he's 30. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were like, all right. And he was in. Skip the line.

You need a Jack with you. I need a hype man. Yeah, you need a hype man. Plus there was 17 of us that night. I'm available. There was 17 of us. That makes it tough too. You got no chance.

These lines are literally like, so I was like, Pamela, we are not getting in anywhere. I'm not used to waiting the line either. I'm used to going like, hey, we're here. Oh, yeah, come in. Oh, yeah, come in. No, no, no. We usually call ahead and be like, hey, we're going to come. If we can rent a table or whatever, listen,

we're not used to going in there waiting, so it was stressful. Man, we're, uh, I'm trying to think, oh, your, your tattoo. When did you get that tattoo? Is that the Bill Goldberg era? Oh, dude, I was 18, man. You know what I'm saying? That's the fucking tag. Bill Goldberg is the man.

Love that, too. But that's not why I got my tattoo. I was 18. It was my freshman year. I just finished my freshman year. I was like, I gained 30 pounds that we talked about. I was like, oh, I'm not going to get a tattoo. So I went down there and I got this thing and it didn't get finished.

I used to be bigger back, by the way, too. I haven't touched the weight in like three years. Dude, I was listening. Zero listening. It got out to the Pat McVey's show because I was listening to it. And you just talk about doing biking, however much a week or a month or whatever. I'm trying to get 500 miles a month. That's my goal this year.

Are you like a, are you like a David Gagins guy? I don't know what that means. Do you know who David Gagins is? No. Come on, bro. Yes. What does he do? What's your guy?

He's a biker? No, he runs a shit low. How many miles does he run? I don't do that running shit. He's like, he's just fucking like, he, what was he a Navy SEAL? Yeah, he was a Navy SEAL. I like him already then. Oh, this is him?

Went through three hell weeks in one year. Oh, shit. And he's like, you would love following him just any of his videos. Is he on Insta Face? Yeah. I'll follow him then. He'll cuss you the fuck out, dude. You just go to YouTube.

He's all about it. Oh, he does the free-in-stuff. Yeah, he runs. He did like a 100-mile. 62-pack. He did like a 100-mile marathon thing, 100-mile, whatever the fuck it's called. Like, he did it on a 300-mile marathon. Bro, and he did on broken feet.

By the way, Taylor Hineke was great. No, what, me? You know, we're great with that. No, you, he was funny. He is. He's still their quarterback, right? Humble, too. He's two now.

Who's the one? Wince. Carson Winses. Yeah, Wins? Yeah, bro. It was a trade, right? Who's playing for Andrew? Or a free agent.

Yeah, right. Who's playing for Atlanta? Marcus Mariotta. Oh, shit, I forgot about all that trading stuff. You don't catch up with any ball, dude. It just happened like three, I mean, you know, I don't really get. You just like watching good ball. You just like appreciate it.

Oh, this next year would have been fun if I'd know any of that then. I've been watching, who's this guy? Who's that? They pay Carson wins, what? $30 million now. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah.

And they're always going to be the Redskins to me, by the way. I grew up with them Redskins. I played against the Redskins. They're Redskins to me. Oh, they're Redskins. Don't know what that means. Hail to the Redskins. Oh, yeah.

Come on now. Well, I'm out of, my daughter always sends these things on our, in our, in messages like, like, LGBT, or, you know, what did you send me earlier? LF. Go. Yeah, I know what it means, but there's some stuff. I'm like, FOMO, what the fuck is FOMO. You know what it means?

Yeah, if you're missing out, I figured it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she sends to Marshall. I'm like, Pamela, I don't, I don't know. Riley, what does this mean? That's probably why he laughed earlier, too, when I said he's like, oh, I just learned what that meant. That's right.

I'm in now, dude. Yeah. My kids got me caught up. And Will also just heads up 236 right now. And if you want to do Tier Talk, just putting it in your mind. Oh, we're getting in the tier talk because I got to know my man. I already know donuts will probably be his tier one, but We'll just wait.

Wait. Yeah, just letting you know. I appreciate that. Fucking love donuts, bro. Dude. I could use about six right now. Go ahead. The hair, bro. Oh, we want to think.

That's probably a mess right now. Oh, that's good. Is it looking good? Is it a vibe right now? Yeah, tell me. My daughter always, my daughter's always, I'm like, what are you doing right? She goes, I'm vibing, dad. I'm like, I'm like, uh, what?

Is it a vibe right now? I like, I like your pants, right? She goes, it's a vibe. I'm like, yeah. I'm all. I'm all. So, so, so, explain the hair to me. Because right now, your boy, I'm getting a little thinner on the corners.

Oh, you're not that bad, though. I'm not that bad, but also, like, when you get the little V. Oh, it could be an issue eventually. So now that you're on the bus, I get to ask about how well it works. So this company. Everybody came after you, by the way, when you first got out. Yeah. Ball, Brian Erlacker, like the man, the toughest dude in the world.

No, the ball guy anymore. You left team balls. I'm like, yep, I got hair now. Yeah. And I feel like, so here's what sold me on it. Anyway, I'll tell you a story about me. but I went through a Chick-fil-A once in Chicago and my wife was in the car with me

and we were the little, the girl was probably 19 and I had my hat off. She was like, wow, you look really young. I was like, thank you. She didn't know how old. I was like, I'm keeping the hair, babe. I said, I had a young lady tell me I look really good and I look young with my hair, so I'm keeping it.

That's what I took. Anyway, so it's crazy procedure. They take the hairs from where you have hair. I had a lot of hair in the back and not a lot where my divets, where your divvits are coming in. I didn't have a lot right there. So they just put the, they put the hair from the back

the front and it grows. Now, do they make the hairline for you or do you kind of pick what your hair line? The doctor picks it for you. Okay. Yeah, they tell you, I said, just make me look good. I said, I want to have a good, you know, I don't really know where my hairlines and ends.

But the problem of me, I got 72 Calix. I got them all over. I got one here. I got one back here. And when I used to have hair as a kid, I had calyx everywhere. And they came back when I got my hair back. And now, no, there's no shot of you losing that hair. No, not, were they put the hair in?

You're good. Now, you may go bald in other places where you haven't had the procedure. But where they put their hair in, it's in. It's amazing. Any maintenance to do with it? Like going back after 10 years or? You got to wash it. That's it.

It's like having hair. There's no maintenance. No maintenance. No maintenance. You're living. That's it. I'm done. The dudes around.

I was actually there. I got teeth. I see that. Oh, yeah. You have a lot of teeth. Oh, you mean you got teeth. I got veneers. Yeah, yeah.

I can see you. Oh, no. Show them the old school. Oh, no. Show me old school. But yeah, so I can get you. If you ever need teeth, I got you on the teeth. but you're giving me on the heat.

I've never worn braces or anything. I'm going to keep my streak a lot. Okay. A little different. Hey, he said, okay. A little different.

Okay, yeah. You got chipp one in front there. Damn. Yeah. Like it made somebody mad. Did you, did you wear a mouthpiece?

No, I didn't wear a mouthpiece. But mine would get chipped, like as I'm playing for whatever reason. I don't know. Your mouthpiece would? No,

I didn't wear a mouthpiece. So my teeth would. I never had an issue. I bit through my lip one time versus Indy in the preseason. I bit through my lip. and I've never had an issue not wearing it. I wore it my rookie ear and I couldn't talk, man.

Dude, it's the hardest. And then they're trying to call it out on the field. I'm in there trying to call the huddle. And you know what you want you to communicate in NFL. Before the snap, I'm trying to talk. I'm going to take my mouthpiece out, putting it back in. I'm like, fuck this. I'm not going to wear it anymore.

That second matters. Yes, it really matters. Half a second, the third, whatever it is. It matters. So I was like, I'm not wearing a mouthpiece anymore. I never wore it after that. Yeah. And luckily I never really paid for, except for the bite through the lip, which wasn't a big deal.

What's been your worst injury? Probably my wrist, man. So I have the nice scar from, I dislocated my wrist in 2009. I missed 15 and a half games because of it. Really? I was in a fucking cast up to here for three months. It was called a lunate dislocation.

Now I can, as far as I can bend my wrist. That's brutal. Yeah, I had the, what I call it? Compartment syndrome in my leg in 2004, but I only missed one game because of that. Hamstring, dude, the same year I did the compartment, I pulled my hamstring three different times. Yeah, that sucks.

Pulled on the first day, training camp, the third game of the year, the, like, eighth game of the year. And I pulled it, my last game, my last game of the year, which was at Jacksonville. Now, have you had any, like, neck or head injuries? I had neck surgery in the offseason in 2008, but nothing to cause me missed time. I just feel anything from that? My neck? Having that neck injury? No, no.

I was losing strength in my left arm when I got it done. I fell asleep on the plane from the Bahamas home in the off season. And I woke up, I was like, well, I'm just sleep. And about two days there's a year. It was still asleep. I wouldn't got the, I wouldn't got the MRI and shit. And the guy was like, yeah, you've got a nerve or a bone on the nerve or something like that. And they shaved it off.

It was good. You ever worry about that stuff? No, I don't. People ask you about all the time because you're like a 13-year middle linebacker. I feel like I'm decently sharp still. You know, there's some things I forget, but my friends forget shit too. Oh, yeah, yeah, everybody. You know, we're dudes.

We forget things, but I feel like I'm still doing pretty well. There are some guys I play with who claimed of, I don't know. Here's a problem now with all the guys with the seat. If they do have it, I feel for them. but there's guys who say they have it just so they can be in the fucking lawsuit. They want that money from the NFL. And I get it, man. You know, everyone wants to get their due, but there's really guys that have it that deserve to be taken care of.

And there's the guys that don't have it who want to be, who want to have it just so they can get part of that lawsuit. And it just drives me crazy. Right. I'm sure it's the thing. I feel like I'm pretty good right now. But no, I don't, I don't know. I'm pretty good. No shoulder injuries, which is crazy.

Yeah, that is wild. Separated shoulder. We all do that a couple times, but that's nothing. You don't miss time because of that. EC joins you ever get an AC joint? joints every other week. Yeah. They suck.

You throw some lytocaine in it, but it'd go away after one head, bro. Yeah, they put the thing on top of the little pad on top there. Yeah, oh, we're going to get you right for the game and you're like... So good. Yeah, one hit in. Oh, shit. Lighting came went away. They'll, like, put a pad on and, like, draw a circle around, cut a little circle out too.

So they can such as you. And then they'll inject you right in the joint with lytocaine to numb it up. But the minute you hit somebody with your shoulder, it's fucking going on. And then after the game, it's even worse. Suck, bro. Like, they're just annoying. Doing anything affects them. thing moving around, sleeping is the worst.

Right. Yeah. Because technically you can still play on it. And if you're not playing on an AC, you're kind of like looked at as like a bitch. Like, oh, he's not playing. You are a bitch if you don't play with an AC. Yeah, you're like. You're like, quarterback.

Now, if your left arm is a quarterback, no problem. Right on. I might get it. Right. But if you don't play with an AC joint, you're bitch. Right. You're looked at, yeah. If you're not playing.

You are. No, I got. Yeah. Now that you miss time because of that. Thank God. I played on my EC joint. You played with one. You played with a joint.

Oh, that's funny. Should we get into tear talk? Before we do, before we do, I know we got a, what are you up to now? Because I'm intrigued about your card thing that you got going on. This is unbelievable. So you did trading cards as a kid, all that bullshit? Yeah, as a kid. For me too.

Dad had boxes. You go to flea market and fuck. Man, you get a ton of them. I didn't get the flea market. So we had a ton of cards. And I always wonder how much they caught. They were worth. I always had these cards.

And I was like, ooh, this is going to be worth a lot. Or you get someone telling you, that's a good car. That's worth like 20 bucks. you know, you take it down to the car shop, I'll give you 20 cents. I'm like, what? 20 cents? What the fuck, man? $20. You just never know.

So this app will tell you how much your card is worth exactly. Like what? They're, they're, whatever, they have so many. They can get every card. You scan it. It tells you exactly how much is worth. You have to know what shape it's in, but it tells you how much it's worth, the year. The, you can keep you, like if you have your own little wallet in your app inside the app that keeps your cards in there so you can trade.

You can ship it. It's unbelievable. And it's all like digital. But the real card is not like... More importantly, it tells you how much your card's worth. That's the part that I liked. And this is just by taking a photo? You open the app up, you scan it.

Three seconds later, it tells you how much it's worth. And when you say scan, you just hold the camera... L-U-D-E-X, Luddex. When you say scan, you just hold your camera over it. Yeah, you hold you, you open it in the app and you hold the card in your hand, and you take a picture and bam, it tells you... You're going to tell you if it's like an authentic card. It just tells you, yeah.

That card is here when you're... What's the worst? It's worth. Yeah. It's amazing, man. I don't know how they do it. But the technology, I'm not a tech guy. Not at all.

But the tech dudes behind this thing are unreal. They did some shit to get there. I'm not a super tech guy. I can figure my phone out most of the time. But I'm not a techie guy. My kids, though, they'll doubt you in. Vive, FOMO. They're vibing, their FOMO.

They're all kinds of, GEN. They got all kinds of stuff. There's some more, too. It said you guys have combined about 5,400 cards in existence. Brian, you have 5,373 rotating. Will you have seen. 27. Hey, get the fuck out of here, Jake.

Hey, that alarm just went off. Say that again. So he personally, like, cards of Brian Erlacker. There are over 5,000 Brian Erlacher cards in circulation, and Will you have 15. This is a rare, like a rare one. Wow. I'm like a fucking Charzard. You are.

I bet that card's worse something. You can find one of those. Yeah, he's like a fucking polygram or squirrel or something, bro. You can get it, Brian Erlake. You can't get that Willie Cee. You know, it was great, though, when I first started playing, and the cards came out, that NFLPA would send us box. of the cards that came out.

But you get those two? Like the boxes and boxes. So I have all those boxes at my house still. All my rookie cards, all that shit, I still have them in a box somewhere. And it's funny because you get them and you literally, I don't know if you do it, but I think to myself, man, I'll give these to, you know,

all my friends and family or whoever wants them. And they end up going in a clause and you never fucking, yeah. Dude, I got it. Yeah, literally I'd be like, fuck another box. Put it in the drawer. Yeah. I literally had like three drawers full of them. And then had a guy come over and sort them out

and put them in the, you know, those neat folding things you put them in. He organized them. Now I have no idea whether I'm sure they're in my storage room somewhere with the rest of my football shit. The bus might need an Erlacker rookie card. I got some of those. I can see some of those. Go on now.

I can get out. Yeah. Is that the best card to have, the highest value Brian Erlacker card? Well, you got to use the app. We got to use the app. Come on. There you go, there are some. I was told there's some that are pretty good.

I don't know what pretty good is. You have? Do you have these? We pulled a Tom Brady card out of my rookie year pack. So we're doing these, they call breaks. You open boxes. of cards. I never knew with this shit

West I started dealing with these guys. And you do breaks where you open up a box of cards and you see who's in there. We opened up a 2000. This is six months. You know Cassius Marsh? Yeah. Cassius.

We did it with Cassius. We did it at his store with him. And it was 2000 football. So my rookie year, Tom Bray's rookie year. He was drafted the same year I was a little bit later. But he did a little better. Anyway. And we pulled the TB12 out of there.

It was worth like, if it would have been 10 out of 10, It was like 12,000. It was a 7 out of 10. So it was only worth like $900. Why is that a 7 out of 10? I don't know because it came right out of the box. That's what I'm wondering.

Why wouldn't it be a 10 out of 10? That's why. We think the same way. I was like, what do you mean? It's right out of the package. It's 10 out of 10. Yeah. I was hot.

I was like, that's a 50,000 car. I was so mad, but I got shot down. They're like, now it's a 7 because of this and that. They send them out and they get them judged by some company and they send them back to you and tell you how much it's worth. Got you. Weird. companies, dude, so you don't play football.

Yeah, that's right. I know what a card's worth. Yeah, it's like the Hall of Fame. By the way, you're big on trying to get Zach Thomas in. I shouldn't have to get Zach Thomas in. He should be in the fucking Hall of Fame already. He should have been in five years ago. Do you have any clue how the Hall of Fame works since you're in it?

What do you want? Like how they vote? Yeah. Yeah, I know how they vote. The fucking guys who never played the game vote. The sports writers, it's the media guys. There's like, you know, the same way of baseball and basketball. So all these sports guys, the writers and getting all pro?

media guys. Yeah. Same way as all pro. The players, the shit that means the most of the media is stuff my teammates voted on. Right. Not the stuff that media voted on. I'm a huge fan of the fans, but the stuff they vote on and stuff the media votes on, I don't give a shit. I want something that my teammates voted on or my peers voted on.

Right. That's what I care about. But the all pro and all stuff, that's all media driven. I don't get that. There are some guys in the media who I do respect. Their vote means something to me, but there's a 80% that I could give a shit about. There's too many that's like, yeah. And those are guys, most of the guys that vote for the Hall of Fame's.

but Zach should be in the fucking Hall of Fame. How do you feel like the Hall of Fame should do it differently? Well, I think have Hall of Fame guys vote? I think at some point you need to go a little, like maybe half and half because we know. Half what, half, say half media, half people who are already in the hall? Yeah, maybe get a board of the Hall of Fame guys and make them count for half the vote of these guys that get in. I don't know. They got to do something, man, because there's guys a few years ago, they had like the 100th year of the NFL.

Is that right? The 100 year anniversary of the NFL. And they had like 15 guys getting dug to the Hall of Fame. They inducted 15 guys just because it was the 100th year. Well, they may not have met the stipulations that the requirements to get in, but they got inducted because it was the 100th year. Like Dionne Sanders was like this, you know, and the Hall of Fame didn't kind of watered down is what he said.

I would never say that. But Deanne was like, it's getting watered down with the way these. You wouldn't say that, but do you believe that? No, no. Hey, Brian. Oh, fuck, no, man. These dudes, if you're in there, you deserve to be in there according to the media.

Hey, Will, Chris. If I'm wrong, though, is Brian the first, Hall of Famer we've ever had in the bus? No. Dude, is he? I think he is. I don't think there's been any other Hall of Famers. Yeah, Eddie George.

I like Eddie George. I'm pretty sure. He's not in the Hall of Fame. He's not, no, he's not. Dude, you're our first Hall of Famer we've ever fucking had. Isn't that fucking crazy? One of the best linebackers all the time, dude. Man, I'm just not going to a lot.

That fires me up. I'm a lot of things off my list this week. That's a good point. You know your shit, hype, man. He does. When I'm coming to Nashville, you're going out with. with me. Come on.

That's what you were with you. Jack is the guy you went with you. That's where I thrive, too. I'm sure you do. Get that creepy stash. We got this running joke like Jack's out there for the single moms. Oh. Yeah, Jack's running.

Oh, no. I'm going to say anything. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to say anything. Oh, my God. It's a strong stash. You got a mullet going too? Come on.

Oh, yeah. A little Morgan Wallum over there. Yeah. When he gets a cut, he'll get like a little mullet-esque. I like, that's good for national. field though, B-Y-O-B. Bring your own bear. Somebody that I pull forward

to getting the Hall of Fame, too, is London Fletcher. Oh, fuck, yeah. London. You look at... Oh, he played 16 years. And he was a tackling machine. He kind of like... He's like the Iron Man, like start as many games. Oh, he started more than, he didn't miss a game.

He didn't miss a game. He wanted to ring in St. Louis, correct? Yes. What box doesn't he check? Right. That's why... Yeah, that's a great one, too. London. And then one of my, a bunch of my teammates.

I'm obviously biased. Charles Tillman. Olin Crutes. Kevin W. Why got in two years ago. which he should have got in. Olin should be getting in right now. Olin was a badass.

He was just as good as Kevin Oye, if not better. Isn't it crazy just how good, how good of resumes guys can have, though? Like, you do think he should get in, but you're also at the same time you're rooting for your guys, like all these other guys who are standing in a line, and you've got to choose however many that they pick you here. Well, the problem is that, like, Teryl Owens went on the third ballot. He was the third ballot Hall of Famer,

which was stupid horse shit. Because numbers-wise, if you're going by numbers and we did on the field, not all the bullshit happened on all the field. He's the first ballot, Hall of Fame, no doubt. But he goes on third ballot because of the way the media viewed him. It shouldn't matter what you do off the field

or if you didn't talk to that guy or treat this by the way he should have thought he should have been treated. It's just, it's frustrating that they hold that over your head when you're going to the Hall of Fame. I think that they might do it with Antonio Brown. I don't know what his numbers are, but there's no doubt they will.

I mean, his numbers are fucking great. Nobody's really done, went on a run that he ran. There's no doubt that they will. And then leaving the game, I'm sure like that stuff is going to play into. They're going to hold it over his head the whole time for sure. There's just no clear cut rules or... I know.

It's frustrating. It's frustrating as hell for me. Oh, because Fred Taylor's been on the bus too, and Fred should be running by Fred Taylor. Bad ass. He was a monster. I played against Fred. God, I do was good, man.

And I like Fred. I met him away from football until he's a good. Most of the guys are great. Yeah. But, you know, I guess, having said all that, everyone should be in. It is kind of nice that they don't let everybody in. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it is hard to get in there, so B&N is really cool. Yeah. I don't, and I probably would be mad, too, if I didn't get in my first try, I would have been a little, because there were some guys who got in on their second and third try. Right. Like, I'm my first battle, all of favor. I should have been on the first ballot. And going the first try was, was pretty awesome, so I don't have to worry about going the second or third. First battle at all favorite.

First battle. Is that your favorite accomplishment? No. Fuck, no. It was cool. It was neat. You know, do you have kids? We just, yeah, 10 weeks old.

Nice. What do you got? Girl. Oh, you're in for it, buddy. Now, my kids are my greatest accomplishment. Football was great and all bullshit, but. My kids are unbelievable. I got some badass kids.

That's awesome. They're great, man. I'm lucky, dude. It keeps me busy now, which is what I need. So that's a good thing. Football-wise, though, what's your favorite accomplishment looking back? 14-0 state champs, bro. High school.

Get the fuck out of here, dude. Of course it's all the same. And correct me, if I get any of this wrong, I'm going to recite it again. 14-0-0-8-champs. Defensive rookie the year. Defensive player of the year in 05. Four-time first team all pro. One-time second-team all-pro.

Eight-time pro bowler. Top 100 greatest Bears ever play 100? Wow. Dude. No, no. I think it's Bears. It's Bears. He's right. But that's like, I mean, obviously he's up there. But you're still in that. Like, you're in the same conversation as fucking Walter Payton, bro. That's right. Yes, the best ever. And then fucking 2000s all decade team. That was cool, too. I like that one, too. There's some badass players in 2000s, dude.

Yeah. There's Zach was in there. Ray was in there. Derek Brooks is in there. All those guys. Oh, that's a fucking. That's in there. That's some good linebackers in that class. Say out. Now, would you, would you pick the, decade team over Hall of Fame? No, I still take the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that gold jacket.

I like that gold jacket. Yeah, it's pretty cool to be able to put that thing on. You got a nice bust. Did they do you right? Yeah, the guy did a good job. I was bald in it. Yeah.

Why do you get a nice fucking bust back there, dude? Yeah, big bust. Big bust. But yeah, the guy did a good job. He did a really good job on it for me. It's hard to make me look good, but he did it. Well, let's do this to your talk. All right.

What do you got, Garrett? Let's hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do your thing, bro. I'm thirsty too. what was it like watching devon hester run back the opening oh that's a good question that dude i'm like i'm first of all shocked they kicked it to him

because everyone talks about not kicking to devon we're not kicking in devon but they kicked it to him you know and fucking ran it back and i was you can see me on the silent he gets to the 40 i'm like yeah i'm going crazy and then not only that we get the the next series we get a pick on third down on peyton chris harris picks him off on the island so we're up seven's zero with the football and then it all went to ship to that but watching him run that back in the rain. I mean, but we watched it all year long.

It was that one. I mean, every time it kicked to him. How fun is that, though, like you got to witness Devin Hester as your returner. Every fucking week. I mean, the things that teams are due to keep the ball away for him were stupid. He'll be in the Hall of Fame, too. And now he didn't get in this year. This was his first try.

He'll get in the Hall of Fame. He has to be. But the things that he did on to change the Plum Return game and the kick return game were stupid. And obviously never be matched because you can't return kicks anymore. You got any good Devin has her stories? It's not good for Devin, but I got a good story. Are you allowed to tell it? Yeah.

We were back when this is the year he went to receiver probably the year after his rookie year. And Peanut was matched up on him one day. And all I hear, the play happens and all I hear it is, be still, be still. I'm like, what the fuck? Peanuts got Devin pinned to the ground. And he's like, Be still, I'll let you up. Be still, I'll let you up. I guess they were fighting or some shit.

And Peanuts slammed him and starts holding him like, be still, be still. I'll never forget. I was like, what the fuck is that noise? What is he yelling at? It was so damn funny to me. You had to be there things, but it was hilarious to me. Well, yeah, because your teammates are fighting and you're kind of like, you're like,

your house is going right now. No, training camp, whatever it takes to get you going and keep you going in practice, you got to do. Yeah, no shit. But yeah, that's the, I mean, that one was great. We had some good card games at my house during our time, during our time. Oh, gambler. Good car games, man.

Before I ask this, book your Uber. So that way, whenever it's sitting here, we use up the few minutes, but that's ready to go. I'm sure. Sure, I'm going to be. You'll like this tier talk. Obviously, we'll have to run through it. Yeah.

What time is $256? Uber. That's a great question. I couldn't wait to just ask about Vic, bro. Like, you're playing against fucking Mike Vic. Vic's the man, dude. You're playing against a lot of these dudes, bro. Like, that was a running back era, too.

You know what I mean? Like, Terrell Davis. Well, Davis was more like, like, Davis was more 90s. I was going to say Davis is more 90s. But you're playing against studs, bro. Yes. I'm going to show I got the right dress. Yeah, there was like Asian Piers.

Chris and our division. He wasn't the best running back I played against, by the way. AP? Ricky Williams. Really? Ricky Williams is a bad motherfucker, dude. 5-10. Did you get it booked?

240. Yeah, I think I got a booked. I'm not good. Like I said, it's happening. You're good. Yes. So you're saying Ricky Williams was harder to play against than an agent. He was good, but I could tackle AP because once I got to him, I could get him on the ground.

Ricky Williams was 240, 5-10. I couldn't get under Ricky. Like, his helmet hit me right here. every time I fucking tried to tackle him. It was annoying as hell. And he was fast as hell. AP was great, though. But there's so many good players.

I didn't play against Priest Holmes that one year. He set the record against us that year in 2003, I think it was. That was Dick Duran's last game. Larry Johnson after Priest's Holmes. I think I play against Larry at Soldier Field. They beat us on a hell marry that game. Good memory. Great memory.

No, not yet. Not yet, bro. I'm only 44, though. Was there anybody? Obviously, you didn't fear playing against anybody. But is there anybody you're like, fuck? Like, Larry Allen? Running back, right?

Or just any position? Any position? Larry Allen, dude. So I grew up a Cowboys fan. So Larry Allen was with the Cowboys. Yeah. And then Larry was at San Fran. We played him in 05, I think,

or 06. That motherfucker was so big and strong. Like, he was a guy, or Leonard Davis, remember Leonard Davis left tackle for, came out of tech? He was number two pick in the draft. Leonard's 6-8-3-50. He literally, Mike Brown blitzed.

He literally stuck his arm out, picked Mike Brown up by his neck and slammed him and didn't move. I was like, whoa. So this is the linemen. The running back's another guy's, I don't worry about. But the linemen were just numbers, huh? Yeah, they're just bad ass.

Yeah, yeah, you go. Like running backs and stuff like that. You gotta prepare for what you're gonna. Like, you're kinda like, if you might find one in space, it may be able to come to your mind, but usually when you're preparing, you're like not really. Man, if I got in space,

I was like, okay, where the fuck is somebody? Where is my hell gonna be? Oh, fuck. You're out, dude. You guys are like, oh, shit. Coming from Deb to see if somebody, like, they should drop into a bag, like, I gotta get them first,

you know what you're like, fuck, it's gonna be an open, and I'm missing. It's so hard. Yeah, I've been there too. Oh, man. Coach is like, oh, don't dive off the diving board. Don't leave your feet, and it's like, bro, it's fucking hard trying to get this motherfucker down.

Just wait, wait, wait, as long as you can to the decide. And if they run you over, guess what, I made the tackle. I said, whatever you got to do, get them on the ground, do that. Not every tackle is going to be a great hit. Get him on the fucking ground. That's all that matters. A good tackle to me is one of the insin and you tackle on the guy. Right.

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Go ahead. Go ahead. No, you go first. Okay. Donuts. Hang on, hang on. What's your, what's your, what's your, I go with a little circle. Okay. So I have the host of circle donuts, the chocolate ones, the powdered ones. The powdered ones. The white box. The white bag. The white ones, there's the chocolate ones. They have the crunch ones. And then now they have a strawberry shortcake ones. And they also have a glass of milk, a big-ass, a red solo cup. glass of milk. 2%, baby. Help my body out. And that's your tier one. That's tier one for me. That's your tier two.

Tier two snack? Yeah, your tier two late night. Talk of either the thin mints in my milk. Whoa, you're a thin mints guy? You're a men guy? Well, you can't put the Samoas in the milk. They don't taste as good. Samoas are fucking fired. We were good for anything. You could be a good tea talk too one day. Girls got cookies, but thin mince tastes.

You put them in your milk long enough, let them say it like five minutes to get soggy. They're good. Um, taco chip cookies. I love them too. Um, and then, um, Orioles. Oriel's are fucking great too.

So you said, you said quite a bit there. Yes, I did. I say a lot. Are those your tier two and tier three? Or is your tier two like cookies? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So like for me. That's here. You've never done this before. Okay. But if I were to go tier one, tier two, tier three, my tier,

fuck, my tier three. Oh, see, there you go, starting backwards. My tier three, because I got three now, my tier three would be cereal. I love cereal too. And I would love to get specific with cereal, but I think we hold that off for another tier talk one day because cereal is fucking hard. If I'm a little, if you know, you got a little edible in your system, like it can change

a little bit, depending on where you're at on the night. But cereal, because you can eat bottomless cereal, you know what I mean? Fun does that. Dude. Keep going on. Yeah, tier two? I'm going to say, um, fuck. I would say Trader Joe's dark chocolate.

peanut butter cups healthy healthy in the dark chocolate good for the heart peanut butter peanut butter's got protein yeah peanut butter protein they're good man dude the the trader joe's you're probably a trader joes guy your wife probably is yeah my wife's every yeah she's good women usually are it's like a little cult over there at traitor jos just he's good at it's a trader jo's dark chocolate peanut butter cups get those

next time like dark chocolate go ahead though I want to interrupt your story um tier one is definitely ice cream oh now if I'm ordering if I'm getting postmates or something it's probably going to be something from Jennings, and I'm probably going to get the gooey buttercake. The gooey buttercake, Jenny's ice cream, pint of ice cream. That's a hitter, boys. I'm just letting you know. And I'm a big chocolate guy.

I'm a big chocolate guy. I'm going crazy by going the gooey butter cake. But I'm a huge chocolate. Like if you throw in caramel, some freaking Heath Bar, some anything chocolate, I'm a chocolate fee. Heath Blizzard. I love Heath Blizzard. Yes. Those are good.

We do get those during, oh, yeah. I'm just, you need junk food. I'm sign me up. I like junk food. So now that you heard mine, how I kind of got a little detail there. What would be your tier one, tier two, tier three? Donuts. Your tier ones?

Yeah. All five series of donuts. Yeah, your host is. And then I'm going to go with the cookies number two and the, any kind of cookies. Number three. Any got of cookies. I love cookies, brother, man. And number three, I guess I like ice cream.

I like, well, not just like ice cream. I like, like, like, I like to go, I like to get a chocolate dip cone or a cherry dip cone or a Heath barb lizard. Or we go to the mint chocolate chip, but the two scoops and the cone. Just the regular cone. Oh, your mint chocolate chips. really throwing me off. I'm not a big mint guy. I'm not a big... I am. Okay. Don't worry about it. You don't have to be me. All right, Matt. I wasn't with your

gooey, what's you call it? Gooey butter? Yeah, I'm not that. Oh, brother. You guess what? Buttercake, like Massrose butter cake? Yeah, like gooey butter. But it's ice cream. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure you guys have Jenny's. What we're going to do... I don't know what Jenny's is. It's going to say, this is going to sound weird, but you're just going to have to work with me. You're going to give me your address and I'm going to postmate our Uber eats this gooey butter pint of ice to your house and you're going to

Send a photo and you were, but hey, you were right, man. You're right, dude. My son loves the shit. Yeah. You got everything, man. Oh, Dave. I appreciate you coming on. Do you guys got anything?

Got creep, anything? I wanted you to personally rank the top three Chicago Bears' best linebackers, which obviously would be you, Mike. Excluding myself. I wanted to be between you, Mike, and Dick, because I feel like that has to be the best three. Dick's number one, man. I mean, I just have some respect for the guy, what he did.

Different game when he played. They could get away with murder, obviously. But I think, and I think if you look at, just going off numbers, I think I'm number two. No disrespect to Mike, but you look at my picks, my sacks and all this shit. That I was just big numbers. I think I'm number two. I'll put Mike at number three.

And even if you go by numbers, you may put me ahead of Dick if you go by numbers as well. But he don't play eight years, eight or nine years. So you could, you're arguably number one. Arguably number 40 as well. You never know. You got Lance Briggs, Wolverham Marshall, Otis Wilson,

Ron Rivera, you got a ton of good linebackers in there. There is. You can argue by anything. You can't do a top five, but who would be your four and five? Otis Wilson is definitely in there.

I think Lance is probably number five right in there, but we're with Otis. You guys were monsters. Lance is right there too. I mean, he's number four. I don't know.

He may be ahead of Mike. I'm not sure. He's good. And you guys both played together. He was good. And you guys both. It's kind of like the Willis and Bowman. Yes.

Levante and Evan White right now. monster. That dude runs like a 4-1-40. He's a beast. Monster. And then, like, Levanti, he's like a Derr-Brooks type guy. He's somebody that gets Jude out of all his Pro Bowls. Stuber's here. Yeah, Uber's here. Hey, appreciate you coming on. Brian Earlack or subscribe,

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