Bussin' With The Boys - Bryan Callen Talks Taking Criticism, Staying Hungry As A Performer + Being Flexible In Your Thought Process

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

On this weeks episode, the boys preview our first spring tour stop, South Carolina. As well as the possibility of getting Joe Rogan on the bus. After the intro, comedian/actor Bryan Callen joins us on the bus. He tells this amazing story about how he almost went with Tim Kennedy and shot boars out of a helicopter. We then dive into the mental side of Bryan and how he gotten the mindset that he has. Talks how to take criticism, how you know when enough is enough, staying curious in your thought process and why he believes in inspiration over discipline. We finish the podcast talking about the UFC and get Bryan's thoughts on who's going to win the Chandler vs McGregor fight. Enjoy boys. 0:00 - Intro 2:58 - South Carolina Preview 4:15 - Possibly meeting Joe Rogan 7:08 - Preview Bryan Callen episode 9:24 - Tier talk 28:42 - INTERVIEW START 32:55 tim kennedy story 42:57 have to be smart to play in the league 50:34 Seal team 6 knowing who to shoot 53:52 Taking criticism and keeping the “hunger” to get better 1:00:18 being a signal in the noise 1:03:05 When is enough, enough, effort without effort, quest for self perfection 1:09:27 How has Bryan gotten the mindset he has 1:26:12 how bryan became passionate about comedy 1:33:27 Inspiration over discipline 1:48:20 biggest insecurity 1:51:00 Bryan said focusing on getting his chest bigger is lame and his thoughts on life longevity practices 1:59:12 Michael Chandler and Chandler vs McGregor 2:19:32 Cormier held a towel to make weight ---- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Properwild: Go to https://barstool.link/ProperwildBSS to try Proper Wild 30% Off. Georgia Boots: Use code BUSSIN for 20% Off at https://barstool.link/GeorgiaBootFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Star player might also be in March Madness. You never know. Yeah. Determination. There's going to be a team in there that represents a Chevy Chevrodo. That represents Chevy. According to JD Power, Chevy Trucks have earned more new vehicle awards at any other brand and that has some serious hardware. Head over to Chevy.com to learn more. Silverado is strong and dependable as the people who drive them for JD Power 2020. 22 U.S. award information. Visit jd.power.com slash awards. I wish I could read like that all the time. Go ahead and tell the people, bro. We are in a group chat. Yeah, with Matt. I go to bed last night and I wake up to 100 text messages on my phone. Yeah, from a group chat

called chirpsesh. It is myself, Taylor, Matt Sassman. Shout out the boy Matt Sassman. Matt Sassie. Yeah, yeah. He's what he's the security guard of Dana White. Yeah. And if you think like who is, who is. Matt Sassman, he looks like the rock guy from Fantastic Four. Like he's like a fat Dana White. Yeah. So we get it going and I was like, hey Matt, I, oh, and Max Crosby, Max the boys is in the group chat as well.

And I start the whole thing off. I'm like, hey, Matt, I added your photo as your contact and then just send a photo of Gollum, the Pokemon. Just get the thing started. And we're literally like Taylor said, 100, 100 texts. We're just laying in bed. I'm just laughing, bro, because we're just all chirping. He's chirping the shit out of Max.

Because Max, you know, he's got the jewelry. we're on. He's like, he's dressed like an in one player. Five inch in seam shorts going to an AAU basketball team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're just, everyone's just killing each other. Taylor wakes up. Taylor sends a chirp out because I think Matt, Taylor sends the Fantastic Four Giff.

And then Matt chirps us all. Y'all do so much better over texting live, I'm happy to take the L. And then starts chirping Max again, and Max only brought boxer shorts and white forces. Oh, no. And then Taylor, he's like, Max has never been known. Max has never been known around

the league as a smartest guy just a completely athlete and so we just put the laughing thing on it and then matt goes better than just a regularly athlete i reckon i said as you can read as you can read here neither has taylor two specimens with just animal brains and taylor goes the sad thing is i reread that text before i sent that and then matt also says group chats already got you sweating double checking your fourth text out out the gate and just fumbling the bag and everyone's just like laughing it's it's it's pretty stressful in there dude it's it's it's really like war. You go to your phone, you go to that group chat. It's been around for 12 hours. Nothing better than a good group chat, man. I'm telling you. And that right there, I think I have

mine later this episode in the intro from my shoutout, no free shout out. Oh, no free shout out. Oh, no free shout out. Oh, no free shout out. We have to your talk today. I thought we'd do shout out no free shout out. No free shout out yesterday. Shout out to group chats. Am I right boys? Shut out, no free shout out to group chats. For real, though. It is Tuesday. Usually filmed us on Wednesday, but your boys, we're going to South Carolina. So when you watch this, we're already coming back from South Carolina. And I'm going to put it out there. I think the trip went amazing.

Oh, Tripp's going to go. Yeah, trip was unreal. It was incredible, dude. Tier 1 showed out at Tin Roof. Tin Roof was electric. Reminded us of Nashville because there's a couple here. Hmm. We're going to go to Jake's.

What's that bar, Jakes? Jakes. We'll probably head over to Jakes at some point. We did head over to Jakes at one point. Jays was a great time. Got that chicken on a stick that's on the corner. Was the, was the, was the Jake's? The bar we went to last time.

What was the outdoor? Yeah, with the outdoor. What's the weather like out there right now? A bit chilly, fuck. Brother, it's March. Handle 60. Is it going to be sunny is all I care about? Come on, JP.

Feed us something good, bro. Wednesday. It's sunny, boys. Wednesday. By the way, it was a great trip. It was sunny all day on Wednesday. It was amazing. Thursday, it was partly cloudy.

But whatever, dude, it's all go. We were flying back anyway. Get your tickets. Austin, Texas. We will be there next. Next Wednesday, March 22nd. Yes, March 22nd. We will be in Austin, Texas.

Oh, yeah, dude. Get your tickets there live. The tickets are rolling right now. It's going to be at a comedy club. And right after our show, a guy named Joe Rogan, if I don't know if you guys have heard of him, he's also doing a show. He's got a decent podcast. We might stick around and watch it, maybe shake his hand,

do the man of favor. Text the entire. group chat we have of just get all the boys in a group chat. Brian Callan, Burke Kreis, Shane Gillis, all of them, all the boys. Even Chandler, Chandler's been on his podcast. Dana White. Yeah, you know, everybody texts Rogan right now and say, hey, the boys, the boys are going to be there like, you need to shake their hand and potentially come on the bus. Yeah, I, well, we've already been told there's no way he's going to come on the bus. It's all about us getting on his show now. No just means there's, you know, there's opportunity. Yeah. No means there's opportunity.

No, it just means there's opportunity. That's all it means. No, just means there's opportunity in there somewhere. Make a graphic. I want that quote. I want that quote. I really feel like the move when we do meet Joe and blow his socks off as a start off by name dropping everyone that we also know.

Exactly. That's the only thing to do. Joe heard a lot about you. He heard a lot about you from Brian Cowell and Bradford. Christ, or Dana White. We were just with Dana White last week. Yeah. Great guy.

Yeah, great guy. Dude, man. Did he gamble with you too? Did he invite you to Power Slat? No. No? No. That's crazy. We're pretty close with them. We're pretty close with Dana. But hey, maybe we should do shows together. They literally all tell us you should meet Joe Rogan and go on his podcast.

We're like, ah, you know, we'll meet the guy and see what he's like. And it's so funny, like the delusion that they have that there's like, you guys are just going on his show. They're just like, yo, you guys should meet Joe. Why have you guys been on the Joe Rogan experience? Who was it that explains? Because of course, every time that somebody's on, that we have somebody on that we have somebody on that. we know his boys with Joe. We're like, hey, you know, what's the deal with Joe? What's the deal with Joe? I forget who it was, but they're like,

if you want you on, you'll be on. It's more of like, he's just got to want you on. Like, unfortunately for you guys, he's not much of a football guy. Like, he's not a, he's in MMA. He's in an outdoor stuff. Well, you know, having the politicians and scientists of the world on. Well, people need to know this. Well, and I have talks about doing MMA, actually.

We actually, we did a little grappling back in Vegas. And so it looks like we're getting into his world. Yeah. And, you know, after this episode, I think I'm going to go to Cabela's and get us both bow and arrows. Really? And we're going to start learning how to shoot bows. Speaking of, dude, for whatever reason, I thought about your birthday, September 19th. You just want to say that just to let me know that you have my birthday now?

Yeah, I always say September 17th. But also, I know what I'm getting you for your birthday. And it's March. So should I not go get the bow and arrow? No, no, go get the bow and arrow. But that just came into my head. All right. Get the bow and arrow.

We need to get good at that. that. We need to get good at that. But it also plays into the Joe thing. So something to think about. What's going on? Dude, what are we up to? What our podcast today is Brian Callan. Yeah. Came on. Comedian. Obviously, does Spider and the Kid. Does a lot of stuff. Has done some acting. His most prestigious role was the guy in the hangover. No, he was the hangover. He was the hangover. He was the warrior. Him and Zach Galfacken. He was the Joker. He was all of these movies. He's a stud. Yeah, he's a fucking stud.

but very funny individual, but very enlightening individual at the same time. Dude, a lot of fucking deep conversations. I've never been so locked in on a conversation in my life. Like, I think everybody who's listening right now, you need to listen to this entire episode of Brian. Like, the dude just spits nothing but wisdom. And I'm telling you, I'm mouth open, just staring at him. You could hear the silence.

You could hear the stuff going on outside of the warehouse. That's how quiet I feel like it was. Because we were all just locked in listening to, you know, his life experience, with everything. I'm just putting game on us, dude. Yeah, legit. Loves philosophy. He loves the philosophy world. I feel like more than all the comedy and everything else. But obviously, he has a lot of fun. He's high energy. And he's a great time. But I think everybody's going to get so much out of this episode. So if you're going in for some laughs, there'll be some laps in there.

But your mind's going to be blown with just conversation with this guy. I would suggest getting a notepad and a pen out. There you go. Yes. Stuff that's about to happen to your life. It's going to get a whole lot better. And that's legit. That's legit. You really should get a notep out and write some shit down. He's got a quote about a wolf, dude. He's got a quote about a wolf at the door. I forgot it right now, but it's fantastic. Yeah, it's like, the wolf at the door is a luxury. The wolf at the door is luxury. Yeah, it is a luxury. Yeah, yeah. No, uh. Well, yeah, I don't. No, uh, dude. No, uh. The wolf at the door is luxury. Um, but it's, yeah, it's phenomenal. It's a great podcast. It's a solid time, man. Do we have,

to your talks? Yeah. Jack. The good news for everybody listening that once shorter intros, you're about to have a shorter intro. Yeah.

I do believe that the majority do like our longer intros. They like our pre-show to the show. Yeah. I do love a pre-show. What? I said the intro. The pre-show, the intro.

Yeah, the pre-show to the show. Yeah, the pre-show to the show. These dumb motherfuckers. Yeah, we had a banger peer talk last week. What was it reminding me again? it was favorite albums or best albums.

Oh, yeah. A lot of good responses online. Yeah. That one can go really any direction, I feel like. I've got some list for you all. We could do, I think we've done days of the week, correct? Maybe?

I don't think we have. So we can do best days of the week. We can do best social media platforms. This one going off of Byrds episode, best people you would want to go out with. Like, it could be fictional, or like a normal person but someone you'd want to go out with

you know what I mean like go out hit the night hit the town yeah yeah somebody you want to go party it can be I'm saying like happy Gilmore something like that like or it can be real like a George W. Bush if that's your cup of tea

9-11 wasn't inside job but but anyways yeah well any any any I like the last one I like the I like the who would you want to go out with yeah I think I think that plays well with Bert.

When you said the Bert Chrysler thing, I thought it was going to be, who would you want to fuck? Because he asked... I think that's just where your head's at right now. I'm horny. At the end of the day. Happy the day.

I am what I am. To your talk, best person you would want to party with and it can be a fictional character or a real-life character. People you would want to party with. Yes. Fiction or non-fiction.

Can we spice this up and say people we don't know? Oh, yeah. I feel like that's... Yeah, sure. Because I feel like a God tier guy would be a Burt. Could be. Yeah, we could pay homage to him just because it's his episode. It's up to y'all.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean... I don't think he's God tier. Yeah, I don't know if he's got to you. Then he's not. Shane's a good fucking time. Shane's a good thing. Shane can't drink a beer or shit, but he's a good hang.

I know that my head is just obviously in the episode since we're talking about it. Yeah, we're in a break right now, right? No. Not yet. This is live, then, yeah. When you put like animated or like fictional movie characters in the, I don't know, in it? Like Shane and Bird do not make the list. Yeah, it changes the entire game.

We could do a real one and then circle back. No, no, no, no, I like this. Should we do fictional? We'll do fictional. We'll do fictional. We'll do real in another week. Yeah. All right.

All right. And if you guys have ideas, if you're watching right now and you have ideas, drop them in the comments because there's never enough ideas for tier talk. Never enough ideas for tier talk. We should probably find an email too that people can, we can start like, hey, email this to give us ideas for tiered talk. At one point, we need to do a best wills. We need to do a best wills and a best Taylor's. What do you mean?

Oh, just like wills around the world. Will Smith, Will Ferrell, Taylor Swift. He just said JP. But that would be hilarious. How about JP at BostonWTV.com? Email that right now. I'm sure you'll get a lot of responses. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's not my email, because Taylor just learned how to use email last week. All right. What is it? I'm looking up. I'm going to say it right now. Breakway will be right back. All right.

We're back. JP. Tier talk. Greatest fictional characters to party with. You are up, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. My, I took partying with as going out with.

Like hitting a night. Just in a night. Hanging out with them. Honorable mention, Master Ugui. I've looked up to Master Ugui for a long time, and I think a night out with Master Ugui would serve me well and everybody that I know well.

Tier 3, I've never been in a bar fight before. So this person, I'm choosing because they're animated. This is probably a fantasy scenario anyways. This is who I'd want by my side. Tier 3 is Popeye. Pop-Fi would be a blast to go out with. Tier two. Chicken Joe.

Fuck you, bro. That's fucking lack. What? Keep going. Here two is chicken Joe because I feel like we have a very similar vibe to each other. We're both, like, relaxed and just have a good time no matter where we're at. Don't let the little things bother us. In tier one, Patrick Starr.

I don't think I need to elaborate on that. Everybody knows my love for SpongeBob. It's either SpongeBob or Patrick, and I'm going with SpongeBob. Are you going with Patrick? Yeah, sorry, sorry, I'm going with Patrick. Crazy that SpongeBob ain't even make the list. It's tough. Yeah.

He is my background. Can't wait to see that clip. Disgusting behavior, honestly. Don't do that. Copied. Creative. Young. Cartoon.

Kid shit. Ildish-ass bitch Jackie, what do you got, buddy? My honorable mention and I don't know if you guys even know these guys are, but I know I'm going to hit a demographic out there, but it goes to the boys from New Girl.

Schmidt, Winston, Nick, and coach. It would be an electric night, and that's all I'm going to say. Honorable mention. Hey, honorable mention to three people? They're a group. They remain as a group. He did ask that question while we were in timeout.

Did he? Yeah, he did. So we can do groups. Interesting. May I continue? Sure. Um, I'd like to apologize to JP because my tier three is Chicken Joe as well.

And Chicken Joe would not want any hatred or negativity. All he'd want is positive energy and just a relaxing night. Probably a Tiki bar somewhere and we'd end up in another country at some point. and that's just how it goes. So I'd like to formally apologize because that's how we roll. My tier two would be Jesse Pinkman

from Breaking Bad. You're getting into a fucking crazy night with him. Mr. White, you know, the whole thing. Who knows what you're going to be doing. How about people around him Odin and died, but go on. Yeah, that's why you know. Like, it's kind of one of those. You're rolling the dice.

You really are. It'd be a wild one. And I know I'm going to get some positive feedback with that. But my tier one, undeniably, probably the greatest part of year in fictional history, Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty. Interdimensional travel, unlimited resources to foreign narcotics and liquors alike. So I know that the world's going to have my back on that one. Everyone's low-key scared of what the world is going to say. It was always Rick.

world's going to have my back on that one. And so, yeah, that's my tier one. Thank you for coming. World destroyed this man. One word? Mitch? Wait, can you go through him again? Boys, Bessie Pinkman, Rick Sanchez.

Heifinated, good time. Dangerous. Almost. Hyphenated drug addict. Jesus. I mean, two of his were interdimensional drugs. And one guy that people have Odette. around me yeah fair that's fair

are we not partying oh we're parting brother we're getting after it well you want to go you want me to go Mitch that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy all right that is my bad so my honorable

mention he just this guy just seems like a good time I feel like all my my whole crew just seems like they're just relatively a good time but my honorable mention goes to Ron Burgundy from the anchor man he just, I mean, he just always is like, it's the life of the party.

It's just going to say some random shit, and you never know what's coming out of his mouth next, but he seems fun. My tier three, the reason they're tier three is because I haven't watched this entire show, but they look, and like, whenever the three of them are together, they just, it's just a bunch of laughs, and you just add another person to the mix. It seems like it's going to be more fun, the workaholics crew.

So they, they always, just a bunch of random shit that that's going on with them. My tier two, the reason this guy is at my tier two, the stories that this man will be able to tell and the adventures that this man has been on, I feel like you could just sit there, have a beer with him, and just listen to him ramble. Most of the time, mumble.

But my tier two is Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean. And then my tier one, this guy might not be the, the biggest man of stature, but he, if you watch the show, you know this man can drink, and you know this man has plenty of stories and plenty of, I guess, drama

about his family and everything. And that is Tyrion, Lanister. And that is my tear talk. Bodyed. Hall of Fame. I mean, I'm just, that might be. Well done. Elite.

That was so cool. That was very good, man. That was good. I may have changed my list It doesn't involve anything in Mitches That would be unfair for me to do Yeah Man Mitch

It's like how do you follow that act That was that was well done brother Very well done When he said workaholics You knew we were It was over from there There's too many options It's like the albums

You can make tin lists Too many options bro That's the beautiful thing about it It's will you rise to the occasion or let it swallow the hole. Yeah. That's exactly what Mitch did. He swallowed it whole.

All right, Willie. Well, that's tough to follow. That is tough to follow. However, I have been in my bag. My honorable mention is going to go to Homer Simpson. Drinking with Homer Simpson, the boy throws the dust beer down. You know he's going to be an incredible time.

time. My tier three, Stewie Griffin from Family Guy, walking around with a baby dude, all the inside banter and jokes. And not to mention, you'll probably be time traveling the entire night. My tier two is going to go to the wedding crashers duo. Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson, obviously we can't use their real names. You need to hide their identity, but the wedding crashers duo.

What are the names? We'll start with Jay. and possible disqualification. Possible. Oh, God. What are their names? John? Concede.

No, I have to throw something out there. It's such a good one, too. It's such a good one. I'm not going to get it. Jeremy. Jeremy. That's right. Jeremy.

It's an easier one, too. I know, which honestly, that's a brutal L to take right there because wedding crash is my favorite comedy of all time. But the wedding crashers duo Obviously you don't need to say anymore You can continue to pile on the hate The comments out there for not known their names But the wedding crashes duo

My tier one The versatility you're going to give with these boys Whether you're going to get in a brawl at nighttime Whether you're going to roam the sewers of the city And you're going to get wisdom at the end of the night After you fuck up My tier one is going to be the Ninja Turtles You're rolling around with them boys

You're eating pizza, you're having a great time Fighting Crime and just having a blast with the boys all to go back, have a little bit of fuck up and you're going to go back to Master Splinter and he's going to talk to you about, you know, philosophy and wisdom and why you should, you know, think about your decisions the next time. So that is my, that is my tier talk on people, fictional characters I would love to go out with for a night.

That's it. Nice. Nice. Underage. Young. Surprised. Really thought us from Star Wars guys would be in there. I know.

We'll have a baby and four teenagers Fuck, dude The Ninja Turtles, bro? I thought about the Ninja Turtles too. That would have been, that's a good one. The group stuff is They just said the Avengers. Right.

The group stuff is what went from Raphael to the Ninja Turtles And Raphael is going to be my honorable mention When I got all the Ninja Turtles Oh, they're soaring to the top of this list. In retrospection, I've done groups. Yeah, yeah, groups is hard. You all ready?

The Avengers. My honorable mention, my honorable mention is going to go to DC Universe. He's going to go to a world traveler who saves us every single time he's on the big screen and that goes to James Bond. I think you go out with him.

You're going to be dressed to the nines, having a good time. All of a sudden there's going to be somebody trying to murder you, but who saves you, James Bond saves you. And you're still going to have that martini, shaking, not stirred. It's going to be an incredible time. my tier three as we're doing groups the group from super troopers going out with those cops doing whatever the fuck you want to do having an absolute blast of the boys getting rid of some canadian weed i think it'd be such a fun time with those fellas my tier two and i had to change this because you had you had one in there that i totally took out is going to go to tony stark

billionaire, playboy, fucking absolute scientist wizard. What a fucking time. You've seen in a couple of those movies. He's got a couple of extra bots with him, a couple of Iron Man bots. He knows he's going to teach the boy how to fly a little bit, and we're going to rip around.

It's going to be a great fucking time. And my tier one goes to a man that's motivated by heartbreak who stares off in the distance and sees that green light on a foggy morning from across the bay. And that is going to go to the J. Gatsby. the greatest party thrower of all time. That's my surf time. Now I'm going to go with the Wolf of Wall Street crew.

I thought about doing that too, but those are real guys. That was right where my head went, but it was technically they're real dude. No, I want Leonardo DiCaprio as the Wolf of Wall Street guy. Yeah. Nope. Just we'll call him something else. We'll call him Wolfie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Board and Jelford? Great. Exquisite. Wealthy. sophisticated. All right. Thanks guys. I feel like we made a mistake with the groups.

Yeah, we did. You could do groups on one and you can do individuals on another. I feel like sometimes these podcasts go from like doing an episode of like an intro to us just talking about how we can do the podcast better. And this is one of those episodes. Since we are on the group topic, I would like to point out as people are listening. I was the only one that didn't choose a group. So take down and take out.

Boys are terrified of the internet back there. I'm not in there too. Oh, Mitch. You have nothing to worry about, brother. You're going to be all right. My mind is just wondering now. What else is out there? I missed.

Oh, wow. Dude, they're in fucking some random town in Canada. Not wealthy enough. Not wealthy enough money. I got a taste this weekend. I know what I want. Shall we go into the episode with Brian Callan? Absolutely should.

Anything else we need to hit? Buy the tickets, spring tour every Wednesday were somewhere different. Texas than Ohio State, LSU and Colorado. Then we're going to go to ASU as well. But there is a wrinkle in the Colorado one. We'll be doing our live show in Denver, not Boulder. Because apparently there's no like good enough venues in Boulder. What are you laughing at?

So far? It's just like, 45 minutes. It's just like 45 minutes. For a college kid, that's a decade. We were actually being told, we were actually being told that,

you know, people commute to Denver or go to Denver for that. Well, hey, you know what? And you're talking about college kids and stuff like this. It's a little late night. There's a Husker chapter in Denver. If you're a college kid in Boulder, just drink a little proper wild,

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It's actually blustery. I don't like that word, but it's blustery. It seems like you do like the word. Well, if I didn't have so much testosterone, I'd probably curl up with my cat and read a book. You know what I mean? The weather does call for it. Yeah, it does. Just a novel.

Just sort of a novel from the turn of the century with my cat. How many cats you got? How many cats would you have any fucking cats? If I had a cat, it'd be a line. No, or a jaguar. You do seem like a cat guy. Fucking dude, I'm a dog, dude. What kind of dog you got?

No, you're a cat guy. Guys, come on, be cool, man. There's nothing about you that screams to me, though. I move like a cat, so there's a lot. If you get, what kind of dog, yeah, what kind of dog do you think he has. Like, like some sort of, definitely have a doodle mix. God damn. It'd be some sort of doodle mix.

This is not, this is not how I want to start the podcast, but if we're looking at you and what is the representation that would perfectly fit you? Yeah, say something like a junkyard. I'd say like a cur, sort of a mix of a pit bull, a catch dog. Because you got a lot of energy. You got a lot of energy. I'd say like a mini Aussie. A fucking. A mini Australian Shepherd.

Just a lot of energy. A lot of yapping. A lot of yapping. No, no, no. Full sends off a staircase. Well, it doesn't know where it's at all times. You know what, guys, hold on for a second. When I bring my voice down, it's not yappy.

You feel, you feel safe. You feel at home right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'd say I'm more of a, I'm a catch dog. So if you want a cat dog? A catch dog. Got you.

So in other words, if you're going, if you're hunting wild boar, send the dogs in. And you're that dog? I grab, I grab him. I hold on, brother. Hold on. Bro, some of the dogs die. They do die. That's a wild sport, if it's considered a sport.

What's a sport? A cat dog, like catching dogs, like going and hunting these hogs and then they send the dogs on them. Well, the idea is to go in. You go in, the dogs grab the boar, and then you slit his throat. Tim Kennedy, you know Tim Kennedy? Yeah. Yeah. The time goes,

we're going to go. Well, good guess. Not there. I'll be a guess. No. He's probably related. Hall of Kennedy, though.

He is, is he all Kennedy? I'm going to first say that I'm getting lost in your eyes. He's got good eyes. Thank you. He's got good eyes. He's got the accents in the hat that compliment them. And he's got.

Stop it some more. No, but hold on. He stops that some more. He pulls off the mustache, and that's rare. Holy fuck. You know what you just did? What? we were outside.

You were very complimentive. You came in here and for whatever reason decided to put aggression on yourself. You started to feel that backed it up like a cat. And now you're kind of untangling me. And I'm really disoriented. I feel like I'm in a bit of a, like I'm in a happy blender.

I'm about to get the best shake of my life. He's got you where you want you. Oh, brother. I'm going to let you know right now. Say whatever you want to me. That's right. I see what happens. You've won.

Come sitting on my lap. I brought the blood. in here. That's what I did. You do love that word bluster. You get away with the mustache, and the reason you do is because you've got, you're big, you're substantial. If you're small with a mustache, you start to look like, you know, that substitute teacher is also a pedophile. Yeah, right. JP, you know what I'm saying? JP rocks a mustache every now and then. Now, there's a, you have a slight frame like myself. Not probably not quite as athletic as I am. It doesn't matter. That's not the point. It's not a competition, but I'm saying.

You can't see JP move. Oh, brother. Let me tell you something now. Yeah. He's wiry, but he, that boy can bend now. He can bend. He can bend. When a man your size says that that guy can bend. Oh, I'm telling you. Yeah. But he can put it in a pretzel.

He can move around. I've literally walked into his hotel room one time and he was just in a cupboard. Just hanging out. Waiting. Yeah. Waiting a strike. You feel safe? Yeah, you feel safe.

Waiting a strike. Wading to strike. Back to Tim Kennedy. He was a green beret. He was naked. You know, a long time Green Beret did a bunch of the military. UFC fighter, 185 pounder, just a monster, toughest guy in the world. We're hanging out in Austin, and he goes, hey, we're going to go hunting boar next time you come down.

I said, okay, he goes, wow pigs from a helicopter, shoot him. Shoot him. With a gatling gun? Yeah, yeah, so I'm like, you had a two hand up. That's what he did. He went, you know, and I go. Was it, was it, was it? I've been shooting guns all day.

Was it at night well? I'm sorry? At night as well? Well, it was not, I told, it's very funny you say that. Very funny you say that because I said that. I go, I want to use night scopes. He goes, we'll do whatever you want. He started whispering.

Now, I'd just been through, he had taken me through a day of special forces training, which hilarious. It wasn't. I was just shooting guns. I got stuck in the car. It was just a disaster. But it was fun.

I had to run this obstacle course. It was like, you know, you have to go. He was being very nice to me. You guys have no problem with it. But then he said, he goes, and he was dead serious. He's crazy. This guy who's been through war.

His books are. Scars and Stripes is actually an amazing read. Okay, hold on. Let's put a pause. That title just gave me goosebumps. I know, dude. Scars and stripes. Cars and stripes. He's a guy, his book is so honest.

He tells this whole story about, he got, he had two girls were pregnant, two girls, he'd been kicked out of the police force and the fireman, and trying to be a fireman. And he was like, just a fighter, kind of an amateur fighter, and just was like, you know what? I don't like my life. He's like 22.

Just gets completely naked 4.30 in the morning and just gets into Morrow Bay. For those people who don't know what Morrow Bay is, it's where the Great Whites hang out. It's where they feed the 20-footers, 23-footers, whatever there.

That's where they hang out. Moro Bay is where you don't go because they're territorial over that area. They'll shred you. Where is it? Geographically. I think it's like near, between Santa Cruz and like,

It's like up northern California on that coast where the big boys hang where the open ocean is. And he just goes, I'm going to swim out to sea and see what the fuck happens. And the fog is so heavy that he doesn't know where he is. So he just goes, a swimming. Gush, gush, gush. So about an hour later, he starts to not be able to feel his arms and legs because, well, it's fucking freezing. And he's like, going to go a little further. No point in turning around because, see, I can't see where the shore is anyway.

He can only see like a little bit in front of him. He's swimming in open water. A woman on a cliff saw him, and she goes, this doesn't look right. This young man naked and just swimming out there. And all of a sudden he just sees this coast guard just kind of roll up. They've been looking for him. And this salty dog captain goes, what are you doing out here? And he's like, I'm swimming.

He goes, yeah, I can see that. And then Tim goes, I got two girls pregnant. I got kicked out of the police force tried to be a fireman, they wouldn't have me, so what the fuck? And he goes, got it, got it, so you're having a hard day. He goes, I guess so, and he's getting mad now. And the captain goes, should I leave you

out here in the drink, or, uh, and Tim goes, I don't know. And he goes, well, my job is to take you, we've been looking for you, so you took a lot of our time, so my job is to get you on the boat. So you want to come on the boat? And Tim's just looking at him like this. I don't know. He's just, he still won't give it up.

Right. So the guy looks down and he goes, That's the smallest dick I've ever seen in my life. Because his dick was a turtle at that point. Anyway, they pull him back on shore. There's a whole record of this. Put a blanket on him. The point I'm making is,

then he goes on. He's a green beret. That's a bunch of other stuff, tip of the spear stuff. He's in a thousand firefights. So he looks at me all seriousness. And he goes, we'll go hog hunting. We'll go pig hunting. But we can shoot him from the helicopter.

We can shoot him at night. but this is the best whispered to us he goes we could we could hunt them from horseback with a spear and he just he points at me

because I'm about to go no no you know he goes now you may feel not so comfortable on a horse here's the best thing we can do we can get on these skis

of the chopper we bring the chopper down and as they're running from us you jump on its back and you kill it with an axe. With an axe. He does this. He's dead serious.

His blood's flowing below the below. The whole time you're talking, I'm wondering, what happened to those two kids? Which ones? The women, he got pregnant. I lost you at that. I lost you at that. Not with his kids anymore.

You know what? He's jumping to this hog story? Like, what the fuck happened? What happened to the children? So he becomes a green beret. I'm like, about the children. Yeah, that's a father.

You're a good person. But you know what? He's in their lives. He's a good father. You think so? He's one of the best people I know. In fact, I asked him that. So that says a lot about you.

I'm glad that you stopped on that. That was a bookmark for you. I'll tell you what. That was, I definitely dog-eared it. And I was like, I got to get back to this. Yeah, yeah, because you care about the kids. I had to know, dude. Dude, I love you for that.

Do you have children? I have a kid with an ex. I have two kids. That's not what happens. When you have a bunch, though. So I can only, I want to, he, I was looking for the strength. I was looking for the strength. No, dude, I, I think the world becomes way more delicate when you have kids.

I have three. So I understand. Boys and girls? Yeah. Two boys. Okay. Now that we've got to, can your boys whoop you? No, no.

They're, they're, my son is, my 11 year old is basically me. He's, he's just this magical, this magical sort of, uh, gesture. Very, very thin and just a silly, it makes me laugh. A fucking unbelievable, unbelievable sense of humor. He's 11 years old. And I was, he just fucks with me. And he knows he's not, I get mad when he swears because he has, you know, he's a lot to swear around me. And I said something to him and he goes, huh, let me see if I, I don't know if I, I got to check something.

Do you have any fucks in your glove compartment? And I go, I look at it. Yeah, he goes, and I, he goes, no fucks in here. He goes, let me see if I call, I call the fuck store and they're closed. So I don't give a fuck. And I was like, you know what? You're 11? That's fucking very good.

He's just smart ass. Then he lied to me. And I got really mad. I go, why'd you lie to me? He goes, and I go, you shrug at me? Why'd you lie to me? He stood up in your chair like that? He looks at me and goes, it's in my nature.

But he's fucking with me. So he's got a really good sense of humor, dude, at 11 years old. So I can't be mad at him. T-Jay. Yeah. So did you end up killing Boris? I didn't. Why not?

jump from the fucking sled of a helicopter. Why not? Onto a boris back. Because I'm not built for that. It seems like you had, it seemed like you had options. I'm not a fucking professional football player who looks like a pro basketball player. I don't know how to handle that. I don't need.

Well, it does seem like a compliment. But it's, but in our, you don't know. In our world, I'm in a blender. I need you to save me today.

He's already diffused me. I'm not willing to be jacked. Yeah. Is he taking a shot of me right now? Like, should I didn't know some type of my shirt off right now? But, you know, you are. You look. You're right.

Not right now. Hey, May. You look good. What are you talking about? Oh, you want to put on a little? You're just amazing how you guys are in secure. You look nice. You look nice.

Yeah. Look at that. What's that? It's all bone, though. You're big bone kid. He's a slender cat. But you're a very good football player. You're a very good football player.

Yeah. At one point in my life. You're a skinny kid for an offensive lineman. And that's a fact. I'm very, I would prod you. I'm not like the most broad dude. Taylor called me one day. Like when he was.

I would prod you just. You know, when he was losing all of his weight, and he was like, hey, what you think about tight end? Oh, yeah, I did go. That's a good. That's a good. And I was like, tied in, what do you mean? He's like, you know, I could play transition to tight end. Like, I can do it.

Wow. Be a blocking tight end. Catch. How are your hands? 17. Outstanding. They are. I'll give you a quick stat and then I'll let you decide.

I love this. I've never dropped a ball in a game and I have a touchdown. So that's just for you. That's a nugget for you that you get to have. And I appreciate that. You're welcome. And I love this. Yeah.

And I love this because you look like a tight end. I can see that. And I have a, my philosophy is if you're, if you're that good in one position, I know it's specialized, but it doesn't surprise me. Because you're kind of,

you're built like a tight end, but somebody said put on 40 pounds and you got the intelligence to play on the O line. I was with you to the end. He does have the intelligence to play. But you do have the intelligence to play on the O line. No, I don't know how familiar you are with football, but Center is the smartest. You play, I know that.

And then tackle. I tackle, you can be a little dumber. Yeah. So you have the intelligence. The center's the leader of that line. Yeah, absolutely. But I've seen, the reason I'm obsessed is I've seen the playbook you guys have to learn, right? But I also think that you've seen the Tennessee Titans playbook.

I've not seen that. What book did you see? I haven't seen a playbook. I've had people, I've had offensive and defensive linemen. explain to me like what one play requires and how you have to change. And to me, it sounds crazy. Probably.

I'm sure they blew it up like crazy. But there's a whole, in every play there's a scheme. Yeah, and everybody's got a certain job. Yes. Now, Will playing linebacker, he can look at this giant play and know all the things that have to do and make

it sound very complicated. But at the end of day, there's like two or three things you got to make sure of and then just do those things. Oh, it's complicated. No, dude. It's complicated. Off of the line. Now, that's interesting because you're simplifying it,

But sometimes that can be a sign of the fact that you pick up on things and you can chunk. You can chunk information. Yeah. And that comes from, I think anybody's played as long as you guys have. I don't think that's physical. Obviously, you have a physical gift, but everybody out there is a fucking freak. But I think that what distinguishes, my guess is what distinguishes people with longevity is. First, you guys stay injury-free, but also you got to be smart enough.

You know, there's just certain things you figure out, holes where the weakness is. I think. I don't know. I'm not. Yeah, I feel like there's like. boxes you have to check. Yeah. Like, I've played with some dudes that can't read.

I played with some guys that I truly believe could not tie their shoelaces. I love that. I love that. Why, you got to throw him out there like that? Because he was shoelace. And he proved to me one day. He decided to tie his shoes. And he just caught a bullet.

He just caught a bullet. Right now he's in Ann Arbor Michigan going, something's wrong. Taylor's talking some shit on you, dude. Yeah. He said you can't read or tie your shoes. Our quarterback in college, his name was Denard Robinson. We called him shoe lice. Shulace.

So you probably know, dreads number 16 for Michigan. No. Wheeling and Dealing. You remember. Yes. Come on. Now you remember. With the dreads.

Yes. Yeah. All kid. Number 16. Strong. Yeah. All ass and legs. Yeah.

Yeah. Had them all. Good body. Good body wide face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I kind of did that. Smooth. Smooth skin in his 20s, maybe 30s. Yeah. He's in his 30s now. Intense. Intense. He didn't tie his shoelaces.

And I. I asked him, I was like, can you tie shoes? Yeah. And he said, yes. And I made him tie my shoes one day. So he did prove it to me. He did. He did prove it to me.

Well, yesterday. But I played with individuals that truly are stupid. But I feel like there's a level, like, if you can just get to a level of intelligence with football, you're going to be all right. You can't be a quarterback. No. Maybe not a center. Maybe not a mill linebacker. Well, a quarterback's astonishing.

But you get astonishing. It's astonishing. You got to be crazy smart. Yeah. It's a weird, it's a weird skill set. Yeah. an insane skill set to read a backfield. When I step back and I read a backfield and guys like you were coming at me,

I got to get 10. I got to get sent. I have a very fast release. I got what's called a quick release. Yeah. Thanks guys for nodding. Who came to my show last night? He's placed for the Minnesota Vikings.

White guy, black guy. Harrison. Oh, yeah. Harrison Smith, the Notre Dame guy, stud. Yes. Now, he's a stud. Now, he walked into my green room. and he was, well, I looked at him and I went, well, you're a freak.

Now, he's, he holds the Combine record for 12 years now. He benched 225, 47 times, ladies and gentlemen. Let me say it again. Let me say it again, 47 fucking times. With arms as long as yours, with arms as long as yours. Don't fuck with him, dude. Wait, what position? Harris is defensive, he's defensive, no, he's defensive, defensive, defensive.

He's saying 47 of the reps. We're the ones. We're wrong. Yeah, we're wrong about Harrison. Okay, okay. Defensive tackle. Harrison Smith. Okay.

Bet you did 19 times. Maybe his name isn't Harrison. He plays... That's what I'm saying. We're wrong about... Who's defensive tackle on the, on the Vikings? His face is this wide. I went like this.

I was like, hello to get from one eye to the other. I was like, hello. Is that big of a human being? Oh, my God. There are some dudes you see that you're like, Jesus Christ. Well, it's weird. Yeah. He's just, he's, he's, you know what it is?

He's 315, but he's... he's so lean that he looks he's so proportioned that he looks like he's 250 yes yeah yeah that's our guy which would be 12 years it's not Stephen Paya okay who's Stephen Paya Harrison Phillips Harrison Phillips Beavers there he is Harrison Phillips that's the kid good guy but don't kid yourself yeah lied to you is what he did not hearing a peep out of you on the bench I'm just saying not a peep and by the way that's not him okay that's even Pia but you said you The Mollins don't count. You can't put tongue in the

you're not wrong. It's not fair. I'm talking about white guys. They are built different. That's a whole. That guy. There's different categories. How many,

how did you get on? First time he's ever lived in. I got 30 reps and they minus me one. That's a lot. They're tight on the ass coming up. I know, dude. Your ass can't come. You're high.

Yeah. Yeah. What? Your ass can't, you can't hump the air. I was, oh, A, I was flexing on my wife today. I was like, hey, watch this video.

And I pulled up me running a 40 at the combine. She goes, So I have to wash this every year. Hold on. What's your 40? Right here. Look at this. Look at that.

Is that you? Yeah. I put a tube sock here. You're a fucking freak. Hold on. Look at the size of you. That's not who I'm looking at right now. I was in a tanning bed for weeks.

I'm not joking. I went to a tanning bed. I bet you were. Look at you. Get out. Six seven. Go. Six seven.

Three o nine. What was that? That's a good run. That's a good rep. Look at you. Four seven. That's a four. Oh, four.

487 was my time. It was the fastest time at that combine. Why? It was the fastest time for offense line at that combine. He's so competitive. You wonder why he's not? I love this. What would I say when he pulled up?

What's that? He's going to be obsessed with your physique. Yeah. Well, I'm happy with yours too, though. No, I know, but I'm saying the first time we met, he wasn't here. Yeah. Yeah, this is our first time meeting. You're like, oh, you're back.

I had to take you in. So when I made you in, I sure as well, quick, though. My man's got a back on him. He's got a great back. Well, the kids, the two pipes that go down to the ass. Yeah, that's a back strap. Backstrap. That's the filet mignon.

If I were to hunt him and I wouldn't, but if I were a cannibal and I were to hunt him, that's the first thing you're going. That's prime meat right there. And you slice it this way and you cook it up in butter. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't do that what I'm saying. I would eat that with you. Yeah, that's my nickname.

He's in my phone. He's backstrap. He's in fucking good meat. He's got good meat on you. It's really turned around. It's really turned around. It's really turned. All I was saying was your first time seeing him.

It's like, yeah, he's going to love your... You guys hear that? Yeah. Are you catching that in the headphones? No, you're good. No, he's just wild. I love that you're concerned about the pod. That's heady.

That's being heady. Yeah, dude, it's awareness is what it is. I love this fucking... I love this support. We play from the neck up, bro. You like the bus? We play from the neck up. We're all IQ.

We're all intangibles. Yeah. Yeah, it's all that stuff. No question. When you are as pale as we are in the profession that we are in, yeah. You got to learn how to do it a different way. Because you're not going to be as athletic as everybody else.

Yeah. Would you say that's true? What? That you're not as athletic as... Where is your... On a scale of 1 to 10... Let me see. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being obviously the most athletic.

Be honest, in the NFL. It's hard to... How do you define athleticism? Because there's athleticism, then there's a pure athlete. You got pure athletes, then there's gamesmanship, then there's heart, then there's grit, then there's finding a way to win. There's all that stuff.

So it's a very... complicated question. Good. Brother, you are getting me fired up. You see what I'm saying? We start talking about being an athlete is a very different thing. I need gamesmanship.

There's that Drew Brees, if you were to look at him, his intensity is what gets him where. I mean, that's a bad example. That's a bad example. But there are a lot of guys that can't run that fast, maybe can't jump as high.

Yeah. Your eyes, because you were hearing a sound over there that's weird. Anyway, yeah. It's not a big deal. Can't run that fast. Can't jump as high.

Not as strong. Yeah. But they got a heart and they got back straps. You know what I'm saying? Back straps. Yeah. You got one on the bus right now. Do you want to rank?

I'll rank will for you. I'll give you everything. What are we ranking? What are you asking? You have to. Give me a category. Look. Look, listen.

Listen, there are guys. There's a group called SEAL Team 6. That's not a question. That's not a no, no. You're now explaining to ask us the question. I know. I'm just. Storytime with Uncle Brian.

It's one thing to be able to kill a bunch of guys. It's another thing to be in the heat of battle knowing who to take a shot on and who not to. You see this? You see, watch this. Bang, ah, bang. See that? See that? See what I just fucking did?

Yeah. You see that? Hit it! Bang, bang, you know. Bang. See that? So I just said kill him five times. Yeah.

He just can't pull a triple shot. He just blowing the shooter on me. Good guy. Fucking bad guy. You know, I see, yeah, that's what it is. Oh, my. You know what it is? You know what this is turning into?

Yeah. I'm starting to realize it. Yeah. You guys have a rapport. And I see you, I see what you're doing here is now that you know Will a little bit, you're willing to throw a call punch just because you're trying to win me over. I haven't left. You haven't left your eyes.

You need to stop. I haven't left his eyes. Oh, man, boy. You understand what I'm saying? So when it comes to, so, so rate Will in that sense, I'm talking. You just, you just, you just, you just, killed me five times. No, no, because that's what I'm saying is that you might be the best shooter, you might

be the toughest guy, you can carry a bunch of stuff on your back, but are you able to think in those high-pressure situations? Are you able to find a way to not kill the- So we're talking about awareness? I think so. Yeah. Reaction time, game IQ. Madden has all these ratings.

I would, you know what I mean? I think Madden has you wrong. No, but I'm saying he doesn't have to go into this extravagant speech of like, because, being a green beret, I'm the good guy, bad guy. But it makes for good podcast. Makes for a great podcast. You are a hell of a storyteller.

It's good. I feel like we are at that where it's raining outside. We got the fire going. We got some hot dogs. Well, Papa's here. Schools in session, right?

Yeah. I got lots of, I mean, any questions you have. A lot of philosophy of top. You see us sitting up right now. We don't always sit up in a podcast. We're at attention right now.

You know what? He knows. Usually I'm sitting back here kind of just waiting for my turn to talk. But this time I'm really, Dad is here. You're sitting up. waiting. You, yeah.

Daddy's here. Made more mistakes. No, I don't, I will tell you. I don't like that. What? I don't like the daddy thing. Gray smoke. Just call me gray smoke.

I will do that. Right? Gray smoke. Call me gray smoke. That's all. Who came up with that? Somebody said that in my ear and I just repeated it. Either way.

You know what I'm saying? You know what to put another hat on. You know, we'd put another hat on. But Gray smoke's here, so I have questions. It's just, it's just wisdom. Made more. Awareness. Let's talk about awareness.

Okay. Awareness. Back to the. Will Compton. I think awareness is the major thing that kept Will in the league I'm going to give him a 91%. Damn, bro.

Strong. Strong awareness. And that goes off Dave Ziegler's scouting report of you. What? That's true. So we got to go and interview our first GM, GM of the Raiders. And since you know we're war vets in the game,

we're asking him, hey, what are our scouting reports that you know, because every guy who sits in the cafeteria and their drafts coming up, everything else. You're like, man, I just want to know what they think of me upstairs because coaches think of you differently. Yeah. Right? Than the front office.

But then you got to separate the two and see what's on paper, the tangible, intangible stuff. But you always want to know, like, what are they, like, what's on paper about me up that it's in the front office? But we got to sit with our first GM and he broke us down. Two-A-T, bro. It was fucking awesome. I don't like that.

That makes me nervous. We're like, yeah, he's right. Yeah. It was extremely well done. My issue with that would be, I wouldn't want to know that if I was a player. You know why? I don't want you telling me, I get very, I'm very careful about, I don't want you telling me what I'm good at, what I'm bad at. Because if you do that, especially what I'm good at, because if you tell me what I'm good at, I might start aiming for that.

I might start trying to be more aware. And then I'm in my head because I don't think you can try to be that way. I think that's just part of what you, your intention is to win the game or your intention is to read the offense and figure it out. I can't be thinking about, oh, I'm aware, you know, that always makes me nervous. But you guys are probably mature enough now. You've been playing long enough that you trust yourself. But if you're young, the worst thing you can do to like an athlete sometimes, like a fighter and is be like, dude, you're a knockout artist.

And everybody goes, yeah, you're a knockout. Now he's going out there trying to knock the guy out. Now he's swinging for the fences. Yes. Don't listen to your fucking fans. I'm serious. It's a big thing. You know, I don't believe, I don't like, give me criticism, but then teach me

how to get out of it, right? That's fine. Be careful of people that are critical just to be critical. Right. That's why I don't, listening to bullshit is not helpful. You're on your way somewhere. But compliments can be very dangerous because they get you to relax a little bit. Like sometimes you go, oh, I can take, I'm a comic man. I've been doing this forever. It never fucking gets easy. And the minute I think, you know, you get people say things, right? The minute I start listening to that and actually believing it, I stop writing. you know, I lose my edge is you've got to be very careful because it's so fucking easy

kind of just to sit back and reflect on what you've done. Yes. Yeah, but it's also, like, there's also the important being in the moment and like, if you did something amazing

you can right now. And you're sitting there and you're like, you just sold out an arena. Yeah. You get to sit in the green room after and be like, hold, I'm really fucking that dude.

I was able to take a leap of faith. Yes. I'd be a comedian. Yes. Do X, Y, and Z. And it's hard to do that in that mindset. If you're always like, I can't focus on what I'm good at

because I have to keep this said chip on my shoulder. Well, I think just for standard-wise, you're working for, my job is original self-expression. Right? And you guys have this too. Now, you're doing this podcast, you know. And so the idea is to, you know,

this is very competitive world. Will's a comedian as well. I know. Oh, I know. Sold out shows tonight. So I'm sorry, Nashville. Now, if you can't make my show, if you can't make it.

show tonight or tomorrow sold out um i will be in new york city march 11th at sony hall still some tickets left march 11 next saturday anyway i'm sorry i just have to apologize but i told him he can jump on um are you gonna but no i'm taking my i'm taking i'm taking we're having a little date night you guys going to the show tonight right you guys are coming to the show tonight right oh perfect yeah yeah yeah coming i think seven one great i got you just a little day night it's not one of them you guys are going you're going to the show you're going to his show you're going to his show you're going to Yeah, yeah. Can you invite you to the show?

No, I actually asked. Who am I messaging with on that? And I got you if you want. No, no, no, no, I don't need that now. I will have tickets waiting for you. I don't need that now. Time out. Time out.

Time out. Time out. I got it. We, I'll get, if you guys really want to come, I'll get you in. I mean, we are pretty sold. We're still. It's fair. You know what?

This is my favorite. We'll squeeze you in. We'll butter your hips and squeeze you in because it's going to be tight. Where are you playing? Zanis. This is that old school club. Yeah. No, we've been there. We actually had a show there, too.

We sold out. In 11 hours. Jesus, guys. 11 hours. But, you know, we're all in the same game, right? I think it was two. We sold it in two hours? You were three.

It's impressive. It's just our lives. Congratulations, you know? But you're so fucking humble. We are. You won't find a, you won't find a more humble. But I was going to say is that, so I, you know, you got to keep that hunger and you, you you can never, it's fine to go, look at this.

So, Rogan, I was in Salt Lake City. I was in, my parents retired in Park City in Utah. He was in Salt Lake, and he goes, get down here. You got to see this. And I'm like, I can't drive it down. He goes, just fucking, you got to see this. So I go down to see him. He's playing for 14,000 people.

You're gone. I've known since I was 27, 14,000. How old are you now? I'm 33 years old. No. Isn't that crazy? Time flies, dude. It fucking flies.

I don't do that. How old? I'm 56. All right. So that's how old we are. You look good for your age. You do. You do.

Well, when you see me move, we'll do that obstacle. Yeah, when you see you move. We'll do some light wrestling. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. But Rogan at 56 as well, 55 now. I was watching him and I looked at him and I go, dude, 14,000 people.

Did you ever think? And he goes, no. I go, I know. And I watched him right before he went on. And there's a thing about doing stand-up as long as we have that you just don't get nervous, even if it's 14,000 people. It's like, you know, you just get your energy up, but you know where you're going, you know. And I watched him and he was just like, whew, and he goes, I still get nervous every time I get on.

And then I watched him. He's got all the money. He's got all the attention. He's got, you know, 14,000 people. And I watched him do his hour. And I'm telling you right now, it might have been the best thing I've ever seen him do. Because he stays that hungry. because he stays that uncomfortable.

It's true that he reflects. He goes, look at this. But after a while, the challenge becomes, how do I manage this success? How do I stay just as fucking lean in success as I did? And especially in unimaginable success where you've drawn a line through everything you wanted to accomplish.

How do you fucking stay as hungry as you were when you were an open micer? That's the challenge. That'll always be the challenge. How do you think he does that? I think that he does that by just constantly realizing that the minute you take your foot off the gas. And I'm not saying you don't live in the moment, and I'm not saying you don't take a second to relax. You go on vacation, you hang with your friends.

But if you lose sight of the fact in a way that the quest to be an artist or the quest for original self-expression, to surprise yourself, right, to surprise yourself. and by the way, as you get older to contribute to be a signal in the noise because there's a lot of fucking noise. We have the cult of the amateur now. Everybody's on YouTube. Everybody thinks they have something to say. And that's a lot of fucking noise.

And to be sort of someone who has something unique to say, and you'll know it too, when you mine sort of yourself and you come up with something that's original, people see it. They hear it. It's like hearing, it's like, it's almost like somebody's playing the flute, you know, out of nowhere. You're just like, what the fuck?

You know, what? You know, that makes sense. Wow. You know? And that quest to contribute and be of service and also be original. If you keep your eye on that prize and understand that that's the most important thing. And by the way, nothing gets you there. In fact, in fact, when you want to be original, you know, when you want to say something important, when you want to have an impact.

a lot of times money and attention are a fucking wall that you have to move out of the way. None of that stuff, a great view and a fast car and comfortable accoutreement are... Google that. That's French. I drop French sometimes. Comfortable additions. You were doing so well until he just had that little pause. You know what I mean?

He said it and I had a little grin like, And he is fucking preaching. He is really putting down some heat right now. He is. But those things, those things are not your friend. The wolf at the door is luxury, not struggle. I'm quoting a great writer, but that's true. The wolf at the door is luxury.

And when you arrive, my friends, you better be careful because you'll start losing the ability to distinguish between gravy and chocolate sauce. everything I'll just start melding is one. Don't be that person. Right? But you guys know that. I don't think you get longevity in the NFL by being relaxed.

Look at you. You're already fucking insecure because you're 30 pounds lighter. I know what you're doing. 40. Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. Jesus. But that's important.

That's important. That's important. You're watching your fucking, you're watching your 40. You're like, you know, that hunger is important. Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah. But all the things you're saying you're saying is great. When, now let's go on the other side of it.

Yeah. When is enough enough? Like when can you sit there and be comfortable with the human being you are, the success that you've had, and say, I'm enough now. I've proven what I've had to prove. Now I can go enjoy my life because some people work until they die. Yeah, but I don't like that. I'm just phrasing your question.

I'm not putting any belief. I'm just raising a question. I've always liked, because you said a couple times, I think you said on the first time you're on too. It's like you have this philosophy too of like wanting to be the best. And you always talk about how dangerous that is and how slippery of slope it is because you can get in the rat race of working essentially until you die. Yeah.

So I call that. Before you even go into that, we had people on this podcast before Mike, who is an artist, he has tattooed on his leg. Don't try. Don't try. Yeah.

It's a completely different philosophy. That Chinese idea, Wuwei. Effort without effort. You know. Effort without effort. Yes. That sort of again becomes the idea of, I told you, don't start thinking that you have awareness.

I don't like that. You know, Wu Wei is the idea of I just have an intention. That'll be there. I trust that to be there. And as far as like, so I think what you're talking about, and I see this with a lot of successful people who are still desperately insecure. And what motivates them is a hole they can't fill. That's not what I'm talking about. You have to be very careful of that.

because I think that one of the traps is the quest for self-perfection. If you get too obsessed with being self-perfecting, you know, great shape, I've read all the books, I've set my goals and I just cross a line. I got a billion dollars, why not $10 billion? You'll miss your kids growing up. You'll miss connection to your wife. you'll miss connection with your friends and you'll wake up and you know Tolstoy the greatest writer by many people's metric of all time. Tolstoy at 50 years old wrote a book called a confession

at 50. His goal was to be mentioned in the same breath as Freud and Darwin and he was. He was a world famous writer. He had more money. He had more recognition. He used to work out with the peasantry because he wanted his body to be incredibly strong. I mean, he was everything, physically, you know, a specimen. The best, the greatest writer, he's astonishing. Like, the way he writes is like, the fuck, you know. And then he was 50 years old. And he had a rope in his hand.

He had to go in the back shed to do some stuff with a rope. And he froze. And he went, if I go in the back, I'm going to hang myself. And then his friend wanted to go hunting. And he goes, I can't go hunting. I'm going to shoot myself. and he had this crisis. And the reason, and the crisis was this.

He had spent his whole life perfecting Tolstoy. And what he realized was that he was at the top of this wall. And it was the wrong wall to climb, or he didn't like the view, or something like that, or the fact that there was nothing else to try to conquer. Oh, my God, now what? Now what? That's what you have to be careful of. the idea that you

you lived a life without any faith without the idea that maybe you should get closer to things that you can't measure. That's a weird thing to say, but it's true. Single player games out there that I'm sure you've probably read. You seem well versed in the book where Naval Ravacani talks about like single player games

and knowing if you're in multiplayer games and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know that book, but I know that what I think Tolstoy came against was something called false idol worship. You're worshipping false idols. your idol can be your fucking self. If you, if you, if you end, if you're the end all and be all, if it stops and starts with you, you're fucked.

That's why being in a position of giving. That's why giving and deciding that you're going to be in a position of service. And you've got to get to that point where you're doing it for something else, where you're guided by something bigger than yourself, that you're more than your appetites. This is why it's so important to be a principled person. This is why you get away with nothing in life. You better be aligned with the truth. If you don't align yourself completely with the truth,

and you know what the truth is, you feel it. And when you veer from that, you run into all kinds of problems. But all you can do, and the truth is a motherfucker sometimes. Sometimes it's really hard. It doesn't matter. But I think that's why you don't get away with it. I think that aligning yourself with the truth of what's actually important, and it's more than yourself.

It's going beyond yourself. It's reaching beyond yourself. That's kind of what I think is very important. That's the next step for guys who have achieved so much in one thing. Now you're doing this. But as you move on with your life because you have children, I think it's very important to align yourself with that. You know what that is.

You can call it God. You can call it whatever you want. I don't give a shit. But that, you know, this expression, I said to my buddy, he's made all the money. He's my age. He's made all the money. Whatever you think is a lot of money.

Like his property in London, in England, we were out there hunting on his property. And I go, where does your property end? And he goes, and I went, what are he doing? He goes, as far as your eye can see that way and as far as your eye can see that way. That's how much money he has. Like there's private jet money, then there's two private jets money. But we were talking, and he said, I, you know, something's kind of, I'm looking for something more. talking about ayahuasca and stuff.

And I said, I think that's because you can hear God clearing his throat in the other room. You ever feel that? Like, you know, whatever that is, that thing, I'm fucking up over here. I should be over here. I'm lying a little bit. It's okay. And if I, you hear that. I'm like, oh, fuck.

I know, I know you're there, but I'm just going to create some noise. I'll get to you in a second. He's just like, okay, I'll be here. That's the truth. Dude, you're firing me up. I hope everybody listening, watching right now is, is dialed in as I feel like I am just literally zoned it. Does that make sense?

That makes sense. Absolutely. How in your development of life have you gained this knowledge and found this clarity? Like what was your process? Doing the opposite. Not being truthful. Making mistakes. Yes.

Being convenient. Yeah, but it's the same thing. Like when you have kids, if you're like, I've already done it the hard way, how would you teach your kids to see it this way with making half the mistakes? Fuck, man. have to make the same mistakes. So that's very difficult. My philosophy with my children is get them very good at one thing. Because that's how you find out about yourself. You can't get good at something without confronting your shortcomings, right? You can't get really good. You're going to hit

plateaus. Anytime you try to get good at something, you're going to fucking hit plateaus. I don't care of it's jiu-Itsu. I don't care of it's the guitar. But try to be the best you can be for its own sake. You know, there's this great saying Schiller was a German philosopher. He said, man is never more himself than when at play. Play is not hookers in an eight ball. Play is that thing you would do for its own sake. That thing you do, that you would do regardless of whether there was money or anything else. When you are playing like this, like the game, when everything is in flow, that's when you feel, that's when you truly feel. That's when you truly feel like you're yourself. There's something about that where you just feel like, oh, man,

I'm fucking, this is who I really am. It's like, it's what Nietzsche and, and, um, and Schopenhauer called Will. Most of our life is having to go through life. I got to piss. I got to eat. I got to have sex. I got to sleep. There's that, you got to keep the machine going, right? There's something about the machine. But then there are those moments. He's dying. It's fucking dying. That sounds serious. That sounds serious.

Yeah. That was the back door. That was a guy in the back clearing his throat. It'd be funny if there was a dart. There's a dart in his neck. And I just have a problem. And he is speaking. Don't even worry about that.

Don't even worry about that. A little bit of a cough attack. This is like a Mount Bus. I'm going to say a bit of the show. This is like a nice mouse. But it's getting to, what we're talking about is what's important. It's important to know what's important.

It's important to know where to place your energy. It's for young people. But, you know, Nietzsche and Shob and I talked about this. Look, most of your life is go to bed, wake up, eat, you know, go to work because you have to make money

for more food and for a roof. And it's like, like, repeat, you know, it's just like, you've got to keep the machine going. You got to keep your body at a certain temperature. But then there are those moments in life when you forget you're human. Those moments when you hear something beautiful.

You hear beautiful music. You see a movie. You, you, you're in a conversation like this where you're just zeroed in. You know, you see a painting that brings you to your fucking knees. And in those moments, it's kind of an arrested development. It puts you in high relief where you forget that you have to do all the things that a human being has to do. You forget about your biology for a bit. You know, those moments of just, like it's like, fuck, if you tell me God doesn't exist right now,

It could be deep intimacy and connection with like your wife or something. Those moments that you stay alive for. That's that's kind of the quest. That's when you kind of go, there's, I don't know how to define truth, but man, I feel it. Because whatever that was was what I want more of. I want to be closer to that. And sometimes you can get that by experiencing that, which is what's great about your job as an artist or your job. Or you can get great by doing that.

you know that's that's kind of what's beautiful about it seemed like you have like a lot of joy like having your curiosity and seeking this type of well he said how did you come to that time making way more mistakes than you guys living my life for a long time like i was one of god's favorites when you're young and shit's happening and you're kicking ass and you know you just had a good you were lucky enough to have a good upbringing and things worked out you start to think that you know, the laws of the universe don't apply to you. You can bend the rules a little bit. Fuck around.

You know, just, you know, do whatever. Have your cake and eat it too. Woo-hoo. I don't have to be fucking, you know. And then you go, oh, shit. And then the flood comes. Some kind of chaos will hit you. All of us.

Everybody, it happens. Doesn't matter what you are. You know, it could be whatever. And you're like, oh, fuck. And then it bends your back a little bit, humbles you a little bit. That's a beautiful thing. thing because you only learn in those moments. So that's kind of what happens.

Well, yeah, well, you seem to have a lot of knowledge and, like, all this stuff. Obviously, you love to read. And again, curiosity, like, I feel like things had to have happened to start to seek this kind of hunger for all that. There's nobody at 56 who they, I mean, sometimes I guess some people fucking, I mean, the problem with a lot of money, you do see people who, the reason that people who come from a lot of money, a lot of times have a crisis. You know, how many kids, they did this whole.

thing about children of billionaires, almost all of them end up in rehab or dead. What's going on there? What the fuck is going on there? What's going on there is that you can have enough money and distraction to keep yourself in a warm bath. You ever been in a warm bath when it's fucking blustery out like today? You get in a warm bath and you're like, ooh, and there's bubbles. And you're like, I'm fucking, I'm not going to do anything.

That's how I take a bath. I'm like, mm-hmm. Where's my cat? And you pet it. You read, and you're like, I'm not going to tell me about you. You're going to tell me about a cat. I know. Fucking Jaguar.

Fucking jaguar. Yeah. Fucking my jaguar. Sorry, guys. That's Spanish for fucking Jaguar. You're rigid back. Yeah, look at his fucking back, bro. You're in the moment right now.

That's a Will Compton back, bro. My fucking Jaguar feels like Will's back. Or I have enough money to fucking pet Will in a fucking jaguar suit. Fucking, you getting paid, bro. that one up. You're getting paid per. Fucking purr. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I keep

looking over at them. I can't dominate you guys. I don't know. They look like civilians, so I'm just like... You know what I mean? I can't cock my neck at you guys. When it's just Taylor and I, Taylor and I look back at them like most of the time. We basically talk to them during the podcast. Yeah, yeah. One in the back right, he's trying to become the third member of our podcast.

Really? Now, yes. He is. He is. You have a most... There is. If you noticed when JP was talking to the gentleman to his right or left, he didn't use the mic. Jack, we mentioned his name one time.

He grabbed that mic and he's leaning in now. He's ready to speak. You can't go ahead. Thank you. I will say for our fans, people get upset when you don't use the mic no matter who you are on this bus. Really? I'm going to grab the mic every time. There you go, Jack.

I'll tell you something else. I can't believe I'm saying this. I cannot fucking believe I can't. I think we believe it too. I just cannot believe that in a space. this small, two men can work a mustache. Two men. I'm very happy with that mustache.

That truly means the world to me. Brian, say that again for him. Well, I mean, obviously, Taylor can work a mustache, but I got fucking D'Artagnan to my right over there. And if he's not wearing a sword, he should. And why he's not on a horse right now is beyond me. But congratulations. Yack.

His name is fucking Yacht. Jack, the Jaguar. Jack, the Jaguar. Yeah. That's you, Jack. We both had walked you, Jack. Yeah. That got you, brother.

Yeah. Kid's a looker. Yeah. He's a good-looking cat. He is a good-looking cat. Let's move on. Taylor, you're so happy with your fucking eyes. Huh?

Yeah, you're so happy with your eyes. I'm very aware of my eyes. That right there? Nice lettuce. I just got a mullet in. You did, huh? Yeah, it's my lack of identity right now. I'm trying to figure it all out.

He, like, cuts the mull and gets the mull and gets the fur and and then talks about how he doesn't. I don't like fates. I'm not a fade guy. He doesn't like mace. If I was going to cut my hair short, I'd go a four. And I, if I didn't have the mullet, I would just go a four and then keep a little. Yeah, that makes me a little bit angry your stupid haircut right now.

Yeah? Because I think it's disrespectful to guys like me who don't have hair like that. Bro, you're in the mid-50s with hair like that. That's a solid hairline. That's a solid hairline for your age. You have like a built-in bohawk. I pull it up. Yeah.

I pull it up. Got it built in. I work. Hang on timeout. Timeout. Jack, well, what was that back there, brother? Use the mic. Speak up, we used the mic. I just said show him here as well. Oh, you said show him, huh? Yeah.

Oh, that's nice. All right. Oh, no. Well, Will is... What am I looking at my futures? That would you say? Yeah, you are. Oh, good, but yeah. That's okay. First off, your hair is not that bad.

It's not that bad. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, not bad. You have hair and you need to be proud of that. You being third years old, I don't know why. Like, you're, yeah, you're, yeah, you. You got a little bit of a widow's peak going. Why not get the fucking plugs, brother?

Why not? I didn't. I did it, but it didn't. It didn't take. Really? You did it? A long time ago. I was about your age.

It didn't take, though. What do you mean? It didn't take. It just, my hair, it might, some people would, you know, back then they would, you know, just put them in like that and a different, they take a strip out of your head. But he said you have a very tight scalp and you may be a can't, sometimes it just doesn't take. Yeah, but that was back then. Like back then you couldn't do ACL.

Now you can fucking, you know what I mean? Movie miles was unable to continue to spin. Yeah, now you can do. Now you could probably. Crazy. But you do. You have a good set of hair. Yeah.

And the plugs thing, I don't know. It's like if I was losing, I feel like people who get to this age, like you kind of know when you're going to be fucking bald right away. I feel like 33. It's solid for a 33 year old. I think you're out of the woods.

I think you're going to thin, but you're not going to be the dude with the cul-de-sac. Let me see it. Yeah. Yeah, you're okay. For now. Pull it back. For now.

You have to kind of, you can shave your head. You'll be fine. You're going to make me pull it back. You know what? You can shave your head. It won't matter. You'll be fine. Now, it's good hair.

I do have an M. It used to be more of like a couple, like, uh, yeah. Circular. Yeah, yeah. But I've always had a little bit of a peak. Do you know why I got a hair transplant? I didn't even need one at the time, basically. I mean, it was kind of like when my father, my father goes, hey, I'll pay for you to get a hair transplant.

Because I want to see how it works. No shit. I go, what? And he goes, I'll pay. I've looked it up, $6,000. I'll give you the $6,000. Go do it because I want to see if I want to get one. So I was his fucking guinea pig.

And you were like, yeah, no problem. I'll absolutely do that. I don't remember how many graphs I got. But I remember the guy looked at me and he goes, he goes, you know, I go, what do I? And you guys, I mean, I could, you are probably going to lose your hair, you're thin. And then just he said, you're not a good candidate.

It just didn't. I went back and I was like, and he goes, you never got it. You did. I did got it. I got to tell you. It explains why you have a good set. No, I don't think so.

It looks fucked up. Go that top left one. That top left boy right there. That's a tough deal for a while. Yeah. I was actually talking to Alan, our barber, about it.

Oh, he told me about it. Yeah. I said, uh, he goes, Taylor wanted me to tell you and talk you into getting hair plugs. I said that's not how the conversation went. That's not how the conversation went at all.

I say, I hope you're lying. No, he's like, I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to, uh, talk you in the getting,

brother. Hey, you need to. Tell Will, get them, get them plugs. You talk about it, and in my mind, I'm like, just do something about it. You make a lot of money. You do well. You can, I, like, inflation, that's probably 30,000 now.

I talk about it. It's fun to, like, joke about something. I don't. Donald Seroni, the USC fighter, he went to Istanbul, and I, and a guy at my show came up to me in San San Diego, and he goes, he showed me, he goes, I went to Turkey. And this, and it looked fucking unbelievable. Cost him, like, three grand or something. I was just like, no shit.

Yeah, that's their. thing now in Turkey. Hair of Istanbul. This is like a moral photo and it's a bunch of guys on a plane. Yep. There's like 15 people. Yeah, that's right. I would love to be on that plane one day.

You know what I mean? Just when you're just struggling, like it's gone. Yeah. Like once I start actually getting like the old man, then that's when it's time to make a decision. I worry about it. But right now it's like. Yeah.

That's annoying. You're annoying. You're annoying. Every time. First of all, you have a hair that you can play with. You have hair that you're like today I'm going to. If you threw your hair a little bit. I could never do that, dude.

That's a forest. That's a black forest of Germany. I would get lost in that. Stop doing that, dude. Stop doing that. He'll talk about, like, hey, like, you know, then plugs. He's like, we'll be, like, we'll be about to hit the sauna after work.

And I'm like, yeah, it's kind of, you know, you can kind of see the trees in the forest right there. And then I'm back, man, I'm kind of worried about my team. I'm like, all right, fuck you, bro. It's annoying. His hair. You can wear a... Can't have insecurities?

You've got the kind of hair. We can give somebody compliments. You look amazing. You look amazing. It has. It has truly turned into something that... Look, like the hair. Your hair line is not even close to being, like, at all the struggles.

You have the kind of hair that goes well with a cape. Fuck off. Holy shit. I said it. And that was my shirt's so tight, guys. It was nice to hear. Dude, my jeans are tight, huh? These are two classic jeans that are given to me.

You're in shape. Your legs look in. You're in shape. Yeah, but, well, I work my legs in my ass. I'll climb a rope right now. And you can climb a rope. You notice. Yeah.

You feel like your brain's waving on you at all. Like you're about to get a little seen out. coming in the coming home? No, but my fucking eyes are going. And I have good eyes. I don't need to... Cloud eyes? Like a dog gets? Just now I have to read, like I can read... You don't be looked at as he just had some cloud. I used to read that label and I can't anymore. I can read that, but not the little ones.

That bothers me. Did you get like LASIC? I guess. You know, look, I'm not going to be the guy. Hey, I'm not into longevity. I'm done with this fucking... Everybody wants to live forever. Who pissed you off? Because you're... Someone made you mad. Everybody! You're in the wrong audience right now.

In the fucking Valley and everybody, my age, everybody's taking all this like anti-aging shit. Fuck off. You're not a 10-X. You don't like any of a salad. It makes me feel like a coward. I fucking hate salad. Fuck salad.

I've never eaten a salad where I didn't want it to be over. And the only reason I eat salad is because I think in my mind that maybe it'll keep cancer at bay a little longer. Salads for cowards. That was a day. That was a thing. That was a big cook bit. Hey, that's a super short.

Jack. I feel that. I haven't turned that into a bit, but I want to. Yeah, I thought that was great. I'm talking about it. Salads are for cowards.

It's fucking annoying. I mean, you know, everybody's got to, everybody in Los Angeles, everywhere else has taken all these, and there was all these anti-Asian drugs coming out. Just eat well. I just said,

they just looked under my hood. I just had a crazy checkup where they look at everything. No, I didn't need to do that because they do it with blood now. Do they? Yeah, those are big fingers. That's kind of a bummer because I was worried.

You would put two fingers? I'll, I'm still gonna off. I'm gonna be like, no, doc. Put some fingers up there. Woglet around a little bit. Oh, that's such a tough one for me. Yeah, the split there too.

Jesus Christ. Imagine if you were a doctor and you were like, I used to play in the NFL. Take a spot on the wall and go to your happy place. I would hope you'd whistle. That was a great whistle. As you went up. You're gonna hear this.

Concentrate on the sound. The vibrations. Yep. Yeah. Right. And then I'd feel your mustache on the back of my neck. I have a little heavy breathing.

How is it? Doctor? Is my prostate flat as a pancake or what? Why don't you shut your mouth? Sorry, sorry, maybe my... Listen to me, breathe. I'll be done in a second.

Oh, boy. You feel comfortable? Thank God. Oh, let's go back to longevity. Yeah. You don't do NAD? You don't... I don't do any of that bullshit.

I don't do any of that shit. I don't do NAD. Don't believe in it. Don't even think it was. works. I said it. Wow. Tell me you're not a pussy. Whoever you're thinking of, tell him, tell him, look at that camera and say, you're not a, you're not a pussy. I ain't a pussy.

See that? I'm a pussy. I ain't a punts. Man. Hey, do it. There's so many things we just went through. What can we go back on and talk about a little bit more where he had us hooked? We know that Tim Kennedy's kids are good. Yeah. We know that he didn't jump on the board. We don't know if he's related to the Kennedys. Let's talk about that bliss, that truth, that thing that took you and your

like, biology doesn't matter anymore. This is God. Did you find that in comedy? Is that why you're so passionate about comedy? I always knew that, you know, the biggest thing, the biggest privilege maybe as a young person is when you figure out what it is you want to do. I think the most important things are really... It's the hardest thing to figure out.

Yes. I think that maybe it's not the hardest thing to figure out. The hardest thing might be, there are two things that go on. I think when you're young, you have to expose yourself to a lot of different things, right? So there's this idea that you immerse yourself in the best that's been thought and said. It's the idea behind education, the idea behind what's the value of reading good literature? What's the value of watching good movies instead of bullshit trash? What's the value of understanding why one piece of music is better than the other?

What's the value of having a sense of having some historical context? Why read philosophy? the reason you do that as young person is to expose yourself to a lot of different ideas. And sometimes when you do that, something might resonate very, very loudly. And if it does, follow that, follow that direction. Follow that direction. Sorry, guys. Follow that, I apologize.

I'm new to podcasts. You put it on vibrate. It's silent. But, you know, so that's one thing, right? If you're lucky enough sometimes to be thrown into something where it just clicks, you just go, I'm home. This feels great. Follow that truth because that'll lead you to other things that are much better, right?

Or just as good. It'll inform your whole life. You'll learn about yourself. But sometimes I think in life you don't know that. You have limited understanding. You have limited exposure. So the world's confusing to you. You don't know where to place your energy.

So there are two ways out. One, again, is to expose yourself to as much as you can. can, educate yourself, read, you know, read people who've been there before, you know. That's why I think reading great philosophy is important, whether it's Seneca or Marcus Aurelius or whatever it might be. There's a reason there, there are these wisdoms that you'll go, oh, fuck, you know, me too. You know, I need to figure these things out. I can't escape the responsibility of being a human being. But the, I think that's a very important aspect, you know. But the, but the, I think that's, that's a very important aspect, you know. But then if you can't do that, here's another way out if you're a young person.

Again, pick anything and just dive into it blindly and get really good at it. It's what the value of a black belt and jujitsu is. It's what the value of being able to play any song you can on a guitar. It's the value of anything like that is, even if you don't get that good at it, is you will start to understand that the world is not as big a mystery as you think. it is, that people around you are not smarter. They just, they have a better operating system because somebody taught them how to do it. The worst thing you can do is say, the worst thing you can do is say, oh, that's not for me. I'm not smart enough. I'll just be a spectator in life. Don't do that. I can't believe that I was able to do stand-up. I couldn't believe it. I was so terrified.

Like the first time I did stand-up, I was like, I was always the funny guy. How old were you? I was, you know, I was trying to be an actor. And, um, the first time I got on stage. Divital roles. Yes. But the first time I got on stage, I was 26 as a comic. And that relative, like, from an age group of people start.

It's late, man, because I was, I just didn't think it belonged to me. I just didn't think I, I mean, I, I'm funny, but I'm not professionally funny, you know, and what a surprise. What a surprise. What a surprise. It still is. is that I can fucking, I do a special and I go, I can't write. I have nothing left to say. And then all of sudden, something comes. And I go, oh, man, man, it just keeps coming. You keep just stay still and,

and, you know, key into the personal questions. What am I really afraid of? What do I honestly revere? How do I want to die? What do I want to say when I die? What am I going to regret when I die? What if, what would I regret if I died right now? You start asking yourself these deep personal questions. And that's the value of being still and letting things come to you. It's not comfortable. It's really not comfortable. It's scary. Why is that? I don't know why, but sometimes just being still and letting something, just waiting for something to show itself to you. You know, that idea of like, kind of like, you show up. It's kind of an act of faith. You know, when you're trying to write or you're trying to figure out what it is you want to do with your life,

sit still for a second, man, and listen to that guy clearing his throat in the other room. Go in that direction, man. That's the value. So I think those are very, those are the most important things. I'm speaking, I guess maybe just for men, I don't know how to speak. You know, I can speak for young men because I was a young man.

But I think the same applies to women. I think the same applies to all human beings. You want purpose and you want meaning and you want direction, you know. And it never goes away, though. You know, it's funny because you guys are listening. So the whole room is quiet now. It's funny when you start talking this way and an older guy starts talking. So even though you've been successful and stuff like that, it's like, you're like,

wait a man, this might be a way to navigate the rest of my life, right? We all want that. Yeah. You know? Because it is scary. It's all scary. It's always scary, man. Yeah.

I would love to know. The moment not feeling fulfilled is like one of the most terrifying things in my mind. It was like, I don't think about if I died tomorrow, I think when it's all over, like, am I going to be proud of what I was able to make or what I was able to achieve? Yeah. And then you just kind of working through those on a daily basis, but it's so hard. Well, especially you try to do, you try to grow as a human. And then sometimes I sit there, I'm like, bro, how much more do I have to fucking grow? Or how much more do I have to try to be better at things?

Can I just like be good with this? And it's never. It's like the ability to be able to do less or you're trying to like rush those things because they kind of just come to you. and when you're just, I feel like, sitting and reflecting and trying to get to know that truth that you're trying to speak of, like the thing that makes you, like, gravitate you towards it. So that's, so the big, see, yeah, don't talk about it like it's work. So I don't, I don't, the idea of hammering things is how,

what we're kind of taught to be, you got to be disciplined and do that. I can't stand that shit. You gotta wake up early and then fuck off. Not a big, not a big jaco, Willie, that. I love that. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not a seal. I wouldn't make it.

I'd get to cold too quickly. I, I, I haven't. You hate those guys. No, I don't hate them. I have a lot of you hate Gaggans. Those are what we hate. I think Gagins is down the road. I hate them and I want to fight them.

And I want to get in their face. I want to grab Jocco Willick. I want to grab him and I want to get aggressive. He was like, I think in Brentwood. No, I don't have. No, no, no, no, please, please, sir. Please, sir.

I can hate that. Yeah, you just see my, I just start to piss. But there is a level, there is a level of like doing something uncomfortable every single day. No, no, no, no, but see, that's fine. That's fine if you want to climb on Everest in a fucking wheelchair. Okay. it's fine if you want to run until your feet fall off. I understand.

There is a value to that. I don't care about that. What I care about is inspiration. You know, I don't think that's, there are people like Goggins and Jocco Willick who can fucking just, that's what makes them feel alive. The idea that they can grind and they can keep grinding. I don't think most people, that's not where I find inspiration.

physical exertion to the point of, that doesn't help me be funnier, I'll tell you that. That shit's great, but not for me. I can't run 20 miles, and at the end of 20 miles, I'm funnier. That doesn't, not how it works for me. I believe in inspiration. I believe that human beings are always moving

toward pleasure and away from pain, and you have to associate discipline with pleasure. You have to associate discipline with freedom. You have to associate discipline with true north, right? Okay. I don't like the idea of discipline for its own sake. That sounds like punishment for me, and it doesn't, you can't sustain it.

Yeah, but it seems like that's just your association with it. Well, I think everything, the other way, you look at his pleasure. Yeah, I know, I think anything with inspiration,

like it's like, you know, the day one, Will Compton won't be the same as day 30 because day 30, you're like in it. And you're like, yeah,

I'd like to not do X, Y, and Z today when it's like, depending on what you're wanting. But you guys have no problem with discipline. See, when I'm talking to guys like, You, everybody has problems with it, but I'm saying, you're very coachable. Like, if I said that, that, that, you guys would do it if you had.

The word fires me up. Yeah. That's fine. It does. But, but, uh, and you'll do it. And you'll do what to say. Yeah. And, uh, sorry.

And, but, but I think that, you know, you got to get to the why. Why are you doing this? That's, keep reminding yourself of that. And maybe if, if you get to the why and the why resonates with who you really are, resonates resonates with truth. then it won't feel like the grind. It'll feel like you're after something. And the cool thing about the journey is not getting there,

but what you learn along the way, these small gifts of revelation, that's probably what fulfillment is, where you start to settle. You start to settle. You go, you're not a mystery to me, man. I can talk to anybody now at my age. I don't care how smart you are.

I don't care where your accolades are. I admire a lot of people, but you don't necessarily, you don't live in a secret room. There are no secrets. The mystery might be that there's no mystery. There's no higher level, higher plane. No, no, no.

I think I know it's important. I think I know where to place my energy. Right? And I think I know when I'm fooling myself. And I certainly know when somebody's fooling everybody else. And I know the difference between spectacle and true entertainment. I know the difference between entertainment and

inspiration and true art. That's important. Learn the meaningful difference between things and your life will be a lot more rich. That's a really important thing to understand the difference.

It's really important to be able to articulate and be able to say, I don't like that. I know how you're packaging this idea. Politics, equality, equity. What's wrong with that? There's a lot wrong with that when that becomes the end all and be all.

That's dangerous. I know why. I can point to history. And I have my political philosophy and my moral philosophy in place. It's really important. Right. So you don't get fooled by the packaging.

How do we get that back to discipline? Because he just... Yeah, no, he did a good job of that. He just philosophized. He made me hang up on, like, knowing, like believing what you believe and not wavering off what you believe. Well, that's where it all comes from.

It's very difficult. What people run into, the issue that I've seen from other people that I'm around is they have a belief system but they are not in a growth mindset willing to see the other side of anything. So how are you able to have your beliefs and everything that you believe is correct

while also listen to other people to continue to grow and maybe change a few of those things once in a while? Because having concrete opinions on things is extremely dangerous to me. Extremely. I think if you're like, there are basic moral codes don't kill people.

Don't steal, don't rape. Like those things, yeah, we can all sit there concretely, don't do that. But then you get into the fight. You said politics. Like, people make great points on both sides. Yes. From entertaining,

something that's entertaining for you is not entertaining for me. It's not concrete, perfect entertainment because you said it is. Like, how do you figure that out? And figure out what you... It's a very good question. It's a very good question because, you know,

Rogan and I talk about this all the time. Because when we were young men, we used to shout our opinions at each other, right? We were concrete. We identified so strongly with our ideas. And I think what's really important is to understand that there's distance between ideas. You have to have principles in life, right? You have to have an ethical and moral code and principles. Those should be the bedrock that you anchor into when the winds start blowing in either direction.

When it's blustery outside. When it's blustery outside. Bring it back. Taylor. Bring it back. I appreciate that. I'm just here to help. I am just here to help.

You know, but you're right, man. Don't be too rigid. Don't be too married to your ideas. Don't purify your echo chamber. I have a whole joke about this. I'm writing about the fact that I keep super hardcore left-wing friends around because they keep me honest. I got friends that disagree with me in a lot of ways,

but they're kind of smarter than I am. So what happens is they kind of hit me with ideas I never thought about. So now I'm not getting my ideas from, one echo chamber, man. You've got to be around people who disagree with you and who have opinions that kind of rub you the wrong way and make you be like and just kind of drive you nuts. But man, I always make sure I do that. I always make sure I read.

Like, you know, people had this big problem with critical race theory. I read all the critical race theories. I read I read Ibram Kennedy's How to Be an Anti-Racist. I read everything Tana Khashik has written. All these sort of like new age radical sort of idea of tear down all the institutions because everything is racist and stuff like that. I wanted to read them. I wanted to give them their day in court so I could get from them what I think is valuable

and get from them what I think needs to be rebutted. So I agree with you, man. Expose yourself to the other side, especially if it makes you feel uncomfortable. So very, very good point, man. Very good point. So I'm not talking about being rigid that way. I'm talking about you, there is criteria. There is criteria for great art.

Look, you have to understand the difference between a good idea and a bad idea. You do. Because if you don't, man, bad ideas, when bad ideas take the day, people die. And my proof for that is the historical palace. it. I'll just point to it. Okay? I'll just point to it. That's my problem with the far left because communism didn't work out so well. Because when you have to, when you create equality, you have to enforce equality. You have to engineer it. We're not equal. So why do you think, I don't want to listen to a political thing? No, it's not political. It's more philosophical.

If it, if communism is so not going to work, why are so many people beating down the door for it in this country? Because, I think a lot of times if it's packaged the right way in a different bow and you're young, it's always been something that feels so damn cozy. If you're a good person and you want everybody to be okay and you're an empathetic person, it's hard not to feel that way because we are communists. I'm communist with my, who is it? I think somebody said that.

Yeah, I know the quote you're about to say. Yeah. Communists of my family. It's Naval Raoul. Yeah, that is him. You're right. Yeah. He said it on with Rogan, right?

Communists with my family and a, what, a socialist with my town, a Democrat with, you know, and a Republican with the world. You know, I, I, I, that's what I always say. Like, you know, again, if I was, I'd be, I'm the worst because if I was president, you know, you wouldn't vote for me because my joke is I'd, I'd be like, I don't know, sometimes maybe it depends. Yeah. That's, but you do need to, but at the same time, what I really admire about Jordan Peterson is that

guy has, he has worked hard to know where he stands. And you define, whether you know it or not, man, this is the problem. This is the rub is you define yourself along the lines you're willing to fight for. You do. That's how you define yourself. That's what a country is. That's what a person is. You have to, you have to be able to define the lines along which you will defend. And not to be too dramatic, but maybe even to die for. What are you willing to die for? You know what you're willing to live for. But what are you willing to die for? That's a fucking dramatic question. But I don't think you escape that at the end of the day. And if you do, you'll, you'll have a tough time living that down. If you're like somebody like a Jordan Peterson who's worked his entire life to be...

All of us, though. Yeah, but as polarizing as he is now, how do you think you stay flexible and not as rigid in your mind because obviously he's like a focal point of so many conversations now because of the things he says and stands on. Obviously he's worked hard to get there, but how do you think he probably maintains that level of staying a little bit curious?

Well, I talk to him about it. Oh, so your boys? I've done two podcasts with him. Yeah. We can get him on the bus? Where's my camera? You want to get him on the bus? Yeah, we can get him on the bus right now.

Have you guys had him here? FaceTime. No, we would love that. Had him FaceTime. FaceTime right now? Right now? See if he answers. All right.

to hey, I'm on this. He's busy. He's busy. You got his number in there? Yeah, I got him speed dial. Well, I just hit this, I hit this twice. And he comes up. Yeah.

Hey, bud. It's called favorites. There's no speed dial. I can't hear me. He can't hear me. Yeah, no, I did a couple podcasts with him, and I said to him, I said, do you feel like you're winning this war? And he looked at me and goes, I don't want to win this war.

I don't want to win because I'll create ingrates and I'll create resentful people. I want to change their minds. I want to win their hearts and minds. I want my argument. I want them to at least listen long enough. That's why dialogue is so important. That's the point of freedom of speech, right? That's what John Stuart Mill said.

Why is freedom of speech so important? Why is it so dangerous when people say words are violence? Or like, your words are hurting me and we should have speech laws. That's the most dangerous shit of all time. Because if you, freedom of speech is so important, and I got to hear what you have to say. It might make me feel uncomfortable. But what it'll do is it'll either get me to change my mind,

reinforce what I believe because you're hitting me with an argument I can rebut, right? Or I'll take a little of what you have. You know, it's like idea sex. Let's have some idea sex. I don't have all the answers. You don't have all the answers. Put them together. See what happens.

Get pregnant with a new idea. I always bring it back to that. Shorter incubation period. It's important, too, that you're able to put yourself in the other shoes versus like going into like a debate style or dialogue versus like I can't wait for my next turn to talk and shut them up. So important. But you guys are on the ball.

None of this stuff is lost on you. I feel like you guys are right where you should be. What did I say? It's a battle you have every day with yourself though. Yeah, isn't it weird? You have to be reminded. And I think you do an incredible job of you say like discipline's not the way, ball, blah, blah. You don't need to do all these hard things.

but then you say, oh, you don't want to be easy and you don't want everything to be cozy bath and then, but your whole goal is to find peace and easiness in life. It's an interesting contrast. It is a contrast, but that's kind of the rub, right? It's like we are walking contradictions. And, and, yeah, like you don't.

That was a commercial. Do you remember that commercial? No, no. Oh, shit. You know a commercial? The person would be on the bus and they'd eat the starbursts. Like, it's a solid, but it's also juicy. Hey, write it down.

Write it down. A solid, but it's juicy. Yeah. I'm going to unpack that later. Yeah. No, it's good. I know what I'm getting for my next tattoo. Fucking starburst.

I'm going to get home and I'm going to unwind about you guys. Yeah, you are right? I will. Yeah. Sucking on a starburst. Yeah. Hard to. Sucking it hard.

Get after that thing. What's your favorite color? I think purple or lavender. Oh, starburst or just in light? No, it's just in general. Oh. No, no, starbursts. Oh, no, no, lavender?

Starburst. I don't need sugar. I don't need sugar. You don't eat sugar? You don't eat sugar? You don't indulge every now and then on a nice little starbursts, or pink starbursts? Candy? What's the taste like? That wasn't that funny, Jack?

Jack, that wasn't that funny. J.B. is the best one to listen to, man. Anybody have any dehydrated grass-fed liver? Fucking candy. Fucking candy. Who brought the fucking lack of discipline? Who brought the tall children to the fucking bus? Starbucks. Tell me about that billboard we saw in Vegas, Taylor.

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What were you asking me? To get off the bus. That was too much. No, yeah, I don't know where. You were saying, You were saying something before the Starbursts thing. Sequin Barkley.

Well, your thighs are... Nice. But they're modest. Yeah, right? Yeah. Like, you have... They're thighs. Yeah.

But the fact... But when I think of football, pro football players, you know... You think of Seekuan. Sometimes, right? Yeah. And they're good legs. For sure.

They're not intimidating. They're not intimidating. If you're sitting here, it'd kind of be a little, you know what I'm saying? You'd be a little scared. I really appreciate that fact that I look at you and I go, you're a linebacker.

Yeah. It's relatable. Yes. You watch and you're like, man, this is. You're fucking related too. Well, you think you can't. And then you toss them up with them and you go, oh, why? Seven.

No, I'm talking about people look at your legs and they watch what you do. And they say, oh, I can do that. I think you and Brian wear the same jeans. We probably do. Yeah. That's why I have the eyes. Well, your legs are nice eyes. You get off the legs.

Yeah. On the eyes. They are tiny. What's, what's, I know. It's all right. They're not tiny, but they're thin.

They're thin. Comparative. My legs resemble every single animal you see on National Geographic being chased by the wine. Uh-huh. A little more petite. Yeah. Quick twitched. Yes.

But eventually get caught. What? What is, what is the area of your body they're most insecure about? Nipples? Yeah, I probably my nipples. Your nips? When I was a kid for sure.

I used to be really. Why, My calves. No, they're... Ever since I was a kid, they puff out. Yeah.

Are those number one? Are your nipples number one? Like, I know they're out there, but are they number one? I don't know. I don't know if I have like a glaring insecurity. I think it's when I was, especially when I was playing in the middle of football.

Yeah. It would be just the entire body in general. You were... Really? Will took a photo of me when we were in Tennessee one time. I got really upset about it. Really? Because I was like putting a shirt on.

Why? Because you feel... Because when you're playing a sport. Yeah. There is a... level of you it's yeah like I identify as a lean athletic tackle yeah and when the body when I get a little turnt and maybe a little tent yeah and the photo's taken I think to myself people now think I'm not working hard people now think this about me so interesting so I I get consumed by that now

losing 40 pounds and my knee is a certain way I don't know if I can play ball again yeah I become much more comfortable with an ACL ACL yeah second one in since I had one in 2020 and then 2022. So you're going through some weird stuff right now. Yeah, mentally not near as difficult as the first time. Okay. The first time we were on Suey Watch for a little bit. Not literally.

Yeah, it's got to be very hard and weird. Like, if you, if I'm in a football game, I'm trying to be sucking my stomach in the entire time. That's so fucking. It was, yeah. And it was very, it was just like consuming. Yeah. Body dysmorphia. I think all of us have that.

Extremely consuming. What's your biggest insecurity on your body? I think my chest. You get a nice chest. This has been, this is the worst podcast. Whoa, dude. It's just outrageous. How the fuck did you just jump in like that?

That's not right, dude. Three or four times during this podcast, you can play the video back. You do feel your chest a little bit. You feel your legs a lot. My new jeans are going to complimented your legs quite a bit. And you're having onto the torso. So I just, that was from the hip. Yeah, comfy.

That was from the hip. I think you fell out that shirt nicely. I think you... I like that you said that in my chest. You talk about... I don't have... I'm a skinny guy. I'd like to be...

I'd like to be... You're all trunk. You're all lower body. I'm drunk. Yeah. You're sturdy. Like, if there wasn't tornado today, we got to hold on.

I'm built like a frog. No. No, you're the opposite of a frog. What, I got fucking... Frogs have my legs. You can spring at any moment. Spring. Yeah.

Well, I got my... Yeah, the small knees, but my thighs in relation to my... You do have the... Where the knee is smaller. and then it gurs. And then it mushrooms out. What's the farthest you went to get your chest bigger? Because I'm sure chest is so easy to get lost in the sauce and be like, I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it. I'm going to do a hundred a day. Yeah. I think I think I never really had the, so that's really funny. I guess if I really decided I'm going to put on muscle and I'm going to eat a certain way and I'm going to actually work at it. That I can't do. I can't do it. I can't go.

Like, I can't be that vain. I can't sustain that because ultimately I'm like, this is, this is fucking lame. Like, what I want to do, I'd rather be like that. You know about our 2023 boys. No, no, no, but that's why I know, I just feel like I'm being too vain. So I'll do, I'll find myself just doing like a crossfit workout. Because somehow I feel like it makes me more athletic or more functionally fit, which is probably all bullshit. But the minute I'm doing flies and I'm trying to isolate my chest, I'm like, ah, fuck, man, I'm doing this for the wrong.

And it doesn't matter anyway. You know what I mean? Like with Shab, you know, we were sitting there. I go, should I get the weight protein or should it be weight protein isolate? He goes, doesn't really matter, does it? Doesn't matter, does it? Nothing's going to change. And I was like, fuck, you're right.

Like I walk in, I go, I gained four pounds. He goes, dang, okay. You know, like. We might have found your hate for discipline. Yeah. Might have figured it out. No, I work out. You refuse.

to invest in the body. You don't like to do supplements. You don't do NAD. Now I'm doing, I'm doing supplements. I'm taking vitamin D. Okay. And I'm taking fish oil.

Nice. Nice, brother. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I would like to. Do you some K to supplement the D? No,

but I do want to go. I do, I just did my testosterone and I'm good. What is you like, you need, you need vitamin K to help break down and help the vitamin D absorb.

And I'm doing all, I think I'm doing, I'm taking this really good multivitamin too. Yeah. You got your, your testosterone. Yeah, my testosterone is good. What is it?

Like 700. Nice. Yeah. But they back, so they give you your free testosterone and then they work backwards. So I didn't get an actual reading. What does that mean? I've never tested testosterone before. I think my testosterone is very good for my, you know, there's no problem.

It is like in the last time I tested, it was like years ago, but it was in the fours. Really? But that, but see, I have to be careful because you might, first of all, when you train as much as you do, you work out and you're not sleeping and there's all that stuff, it, it, it, it varies. So a lot of times they say if you haven't, if your zinc levels are low, if you haven't slept,

your testosterone can take a dive in that moment. Right. I think. I'm not a- Guy was going directly toward like my thyroid too. Because he's like, don't even worry about the, you know,

don't worry about the testosterone number. We got to look at other things like the factors of like, like, free testosterone and I don't know anything. But I just know that like athletes, a lot of times are surprised that their testosterone is low. But I think sometimes that can be

because you're at, you know, people like Andrew Huberman and those guys know what they're talking about. I don't, but I think that it does fluctuate. You have to be careful. So I think the way to do it is to make sure your zinc levels, everything is where it should be. And then you're sleeping, you know, you're, I think it varies. So that might be a false read. Have you ever thought about doing TRT or anything like that?

I can't wait, but I'm waiting till the day I don't have energy or the day that I can't keep up with my young wife. But right now I love how you grays the bag too Gray smoke is Gray smoke is doing just fine Gray smokes alive and well Brother Gray smoke is alive and well

I don't know just grace smoke Okay great smoke's got it Gray smokes got a one year old Okay Congratulations Yeah and mom wants another one So far don't seem to be having a problem

Throwing the blue pill and get to work Yeah No I don't I've never used it Nice I've never I'll tell you when I do But I've never had to I've never had to take any of that So that's a good sign.

You know, that's a great sign. Yeah, absolutely. That's, that's, well, you know, but it's going to go eventually. 56 years old. Yeah. You're moving well. You move well. We'll stay on your toes.

We'll get you guys moving around. Do you guys do any training, any fighting? No, man, but I want to. I want to start kind of getting into that. Like, just like a couple times a week. Yeah. Just to throw hands a little bit. You want a spar?

No, not far. Like train. Can I feel hands with the boys? Yeah, I mean, I will. I'm just saying, like, I would love to get in, like, mixing the cardio, like, start to, like, learn. Because people talk about the, not that I, and maybe, maybe that'll be, like, something that, you know, I hear that in the other room. But when people talk about the blackbell and kind of, like, what's behind it and everything else, it kind of, like, maybe I should get in and just see what it's like. I like you.

I mean, with your athleticism, I mean, jiu-jitsu would go along. We'd pick it up real quick. We wrestled. We wrestled a little bit when we were younger now. Yeah. Oh, you did. Missouri boys. Missouri boys.

Oh, okay. So you got, you understand a little bit. Yeah. Got some math sense. Yeah. Will and I've wrestled on three separate occasions, and I always end up on my back. Yeah, yeah. Well, he's, if he wrestled and you never have.

Brother. Yeah, he's going to. Small bit of cauliflower here. That's always the, that's how you want to coin it a little bit. You did some wrestling background. High school? Yeah, up through high school. All right.

My brother was a stud scholarship, Nebraska. Senior National Champion in high school. Yeah. So you got some pedigree going on. Yeah, we were talking about the other day with our dads and how I would be crying in the backseat trying to make weights. trying to make weight and all I can have was like a protein shake because you're like cutting weight.

Yeah. The little bro, he's like in the shower. He's like in our bathroom. They're like stuffing towels at the bottom of the. So Eric can't get out. Do you wrestle in college or no? He wrestled in college. Yes.

Wow. Yeah. D1. Nebraska. Oh, he was in Nebraska. Oh, you got an athletic family. Your brother. That's a crazy, that's a serious program.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So you don't want to get underhooks on that kid. He'll take you right down. No, yeah, he's nice. He's nice with the ankle picks. Big boy? Right out of the gate.

No, he was a 157. 157. What are you walking out right now? 225, 228, sometimes 233. Deceptive. Hey, guys, deceptive. Compton looks like a regular kid till you grab him, okay? Till you grab him.

When he's up close and personal, and you can feel that fucking hairline, digging into your chin, we got some problems. Yeah. You do no wrestling, though, huh? You don't have to. I don't know nothing about. I don't have to say,

I love to dabblins that mixed martial artist world. But I don't, I've never, I didn't even know you wanted to do that. It's amazing. It's like, just for like training. Like mixed it in versus us

just doing like weight training all the time. You guys like you can, I mean, just learning how to box and stuff throwing hands. I was used to boxing them. And, and my trainer would throw me in it with everybody. William McCullet.

He goes, goes bar with him. I was like, fucking, you know. And then there was the kid who played, he was a, catcher in the

baseball, the major league baseball. MLB. The MLB. You said all the words. Fuck, you said all the words. I was like,

I'm not even American, you guys. It's been a big fucking ruse. But he, he was a catcher. And he played for years, and he was 235. And just all ass and legs.

And I'm watching, he didn't know how to box that much, but he was learning how to throw hands. He was hitting mitts. He was going, pop, pop, pop. And it was just all coming. And you could just,

boom boom and my trainer goes he wants to spar do you want it why don't you get in there and work with him and i go no fucking no because that's a way better athlete and he's much bigger and look at how hard he's hitting if i make one mistake i'm going bye-bye and going to sleep i would never fuck around with anybody who's a pro athlete like that i would never get in like you're like i've been boxing for like i would never i'd be like never doing that you're too strong strong. You hit too hard. You're too you've done, you can communicate with your body too well.

We have very few guys in the UFC who actually played football. Yeah, but if you train, you could easily take us out. Not me, but a guy. Yeah. Yeah. I'll keep you busy. If I get behind you? There we go. There's like Michael Chandler. You think Michael Chandler? You want no part of Michael Chandler. You want

no part of Michael Chandler. Yes, yes. Yeah, that's why we're talking about Michael Chan. You want no part of Michael Chan. No part. No part. No, it'd be a disaster. No, yeah. A disaster. By the way, if he grabs you, you're in all the trouble. And if you try to bang with him, you're in all the trouble. And he's going to kick that fucking, you see that, you see that antelope half of yours? Yeah.

You see this area where it's all sweet, it's all nice. And I mean, you use that to push off. You see those, all those muscles and all that stuff, nice there. He's going to drive his fucking shin at 100 miles an hour into that about 17 times. And you're going to be trying to grab me. He's going, boom, and then he's going to go get it and just catch you in the floating rib. And then you're going to grab him. You're going to go, hey, why does he feel like, what is this?

Oh, it's a piece of marble with feet. And why is he behind me? Yeah, why is he behind me? And then your face is going to go purple. And you're just going to see us go, you know, it's, you don't want to. You know, he's going to fight Connor McGregor. Oh, I know. Oh, I know.

What do you think is going to happen there? I think that, I think Michael has to wrestle with him. I think the mistake that, I mean, if I may be so bold, I think, uh, you're an analyst, let's go. You've been in the TV show. I don't want to see Michael try to stand at mid distance and throw hands with Connor McGregor. I think that Connor's as good as anybody that's ever stepped in the octagon at hands.

His understanding of how to stand on the edge of the pocket and counter you, he's got such a high fight IQ. He's just as good. What, what, what he lost? with Dustin Poyer, who is just as good as well as those leg kicks. But you don't want to be standing there banging with him. And Michael is so explosive and powerful. But I think his athleticism as a wrestler and his explosiveness has afforded him the ability, because he's so incredibly athletic,

to end fights very quickly. But sometimes when you're that athletic and that explosive, you are maybe not as fundamentally sound. as someone like a Connor McGregor. Because you're going to make some mistake. Your hand might be here as opposed to here. You're going to make the fine details have not been drilled into you the way they were into Dustin Poirier because they didn't have to be.

But when you get to that higher level like Dustin Poirier and you are throwing with your hand here or whatever it might be because you're so powerful, those guys can capitalize on that. So how do you think it's going to go? who do you think he's going to win that fight? I don't know what Connor's going to show up, but it's hard for me. I don't know.

That's a really hard one. If I really had to put my money on it, again, if Michael tries to stand and bang with Connor, it's not a good idea. But if Michael's kicking, if he's doing low kicks and he's fucking grabbing the legs and he's wrestling with him and putting him on his back,

that's the way to beat him. And then once he gets to, him tired. My game plan for him would be kick him in the legs and try to wrestle him and get him on his back and wear him down. And then in round four, you can start Tien off. But I think to stand there like he did with Dustin Porey, you know, in the pocket like that and try to try to fist a cuff with him is going to be, that's very dicey with Connor. He's too good. Right, getting caught up in the spectacle of the, you know, with Gae, Porier, all of them. I'm sorry.

Gay, you're talking about Chandler. Gay, cheap, way, like getting caught up in the spectacle of all of that. Like, just straight backyard hillbilly fighting. That's what happens, though, because he's such an athlete and he's such a competitor that sometimes there are guys who go- I mean, the motherfucker put his hands down. I was like, yeah, keep hitting me. There are guys, yeah, so there are guys-

there are guys who hear people like me say stuff like I'm saying, and they go, oh, really? Okay, let me show you how I, let me show you. I'm going to bang with that, dude, and I understand that. But I'm just saying if I were his coach, I would be very, I would be very scared of Conner's hands at mid-distance. Boxing Connors have very bad idea. And Mike gets his rocks off by making it an electric fight.

It's not an electric fight if you're on the ground. There's a reason. You get the booing from the crowd. People are like, what are they doing? And then only the analysts that are sitting there that know the game the best are like, this is a great fight. There's a reason. Because of the technique they're using.

There's a reason he's Michael Chandler. That's what makes him so amazing. But you saw what happened with Dustin Poirier. the same thing could happen to him if he almost had Dustin in the first round he could have won that fight easily and that's how he always won those fights right and yes

until you get to that level until you get to that elite level you cannot rely on almost getting somebody because yes he's got the power to put anybody to sleep but those high level guys they game plan for that they know where to put their feet you understand

Dustin knows where to put his feet so he's not in a position where you are, he's not in your pipe here he's put in his feet places his hands are just a certain way so that that stuff, he'll take that away from you. You'll get that. You'll get those shots twice

in the first round as he's feeling you out maybe three times. But then what makes Dustin so amazing, what makes Connor so amazing is they download what you're doing. They download your patterns quickly and they download your tendencies and they download when you're about

to throw that and then they start putting you in uncomfortable positions. The way they're standing, you've got to now adjust and they unload on you. That's boxing. It's like all, it's where they place their feet. It's not your head and movement. It's where they're placing your feet and how they're moving their feet to get you to adjust. They're getting you

to play their game and those guys can get you into their sandbox. They're not in your sandbox. They might feel you out in the beginning, but they're getting you in your sandbox. That's what's so beautiful about fighting and boxing especially. The great strikers like that. They're just, they will get you to do shit that you don't, they, they have patterns and they have so many patterns. And so that's why when you, that's why I'm so fucking pumped about this Ghana Jones fight.

Yeah, that's going to be awesome. Because Cyril Ghan is a high level striker. He does shit that you can't see. It's so, it's so fucking subtle. It's like Peter Yan. It's like little details. Like where they place, where he places his back foot. Like when he plays, he plays, he's back foot.

Like when he fought, if you ever watched Peter Yan, the first time he fought, Al Jemann Sterling, it was fucking amazing. Because I kept, I couldn't figure out what he was doing. But he kept a split in hand, so Al Jamein's here. And he kept, like you would see him. He would step tiny bit to his left. He'd step back, boom, throw, he jab. So he'd be like this. Zapha.

So what he was doing was taking his body off center line and now his hands here because Algeman's here. And I was like, oh, he's catching it. And then you'd see him all of a sudden. You'd see Al Jamee move and he'd throw a right. can catch him. I was like, how the fuck is he doing that? Well, what he was doing was he would program your brain. He'd step, like back, step back jab. Step back jab, right? Step back jab, right? Step back jab three times. Now you go, oh, fuck, I see what he's doing. So now, next time he does that, I'm going to adjust. So if I see that a little back foot move,

I'm going to move so he's still here and he's not going to throw that left so he can catch my hands. So then, so Peter Yan would just go, he'd fake. Now he, instead of stepping, he would just fake a little bit and you'd go, whoop, and then he'd throw a right. And you catch a right. that that minuscule shit your corner can't even see. How did you develop this type of intellect? He loves it, dude. I love fighting, and I do it. I would get in there with Wayne McCulloch was a world champion.

Silver medal in the Olympics. He is a Hall of Fame boxer, and I used to sit there and train with him and pick his brain, and then I would spar, and I would, you know, I would, and then my other friend, Tarakazim, who was Luke Rockhold and Jake Shields coach. These guys would waste their time on me, but I loved it so much. I loved it so much that they were willing to teach me. They have no business teaching an idiot like me.

I'm a fucking civilian, but I'm such a student of the game. I love the game. I love boxing, and I love that minutia. And then I love being able to see, I like being able to see things that other people aren't necessarily seeing. And Cyril Gahn, dude, be ready for that. So who do you think he's going to win that fight? Because John Jones is, I am a casual watcher.

I'm not a person that breaks it down. Like, you just did an incredible job of giving me some insight to the game. When I watch, like, I just know that John Jones is... You're hoping he comes back. He's the heavyweight Connor McGregor. Like, he truly is, like, they argue the best of all time. He had the cocaine stuff. He had all this.

His fight IQ is... He's incredible. He's incredible, but he's a polarizing individual. So I look at this fight, and I'm legit just hoping Jones wins. because I love the storyline of him coming back three years later, all that. Yeah, but he is, everybody always shocks up his athleticism. So I don't think that's fair to John Jones. John Jones has the highest fighter IQ of anybody.

John Jones can figure out what you're doing, and he downloads everything you're doing. That when he knocked Daniel Cormier out with that head kick, that was not an accident. That was all planned because Daniel was dipping. He dips. He dips, I think it's to the left. He dips to the left every time.

He dips to the left and throws. And he knew that. and he got Daniel to dip, and he goes, he's going to dip, boom, and kick him. So he can, again, John Jones, when he wants, you can't train for a guy like that. You cannot get people. Daniel Cormier is a two-time fucking Olympian.

His wrestling is on a different level. That's the most impressive heavyweight. That's the most impressive fight I've ever met in my life. Five-nine doesn't, you know, he's not, he's not, you look at him and when he's in a polo shirt, he looks like almost like a civilian. I'm sorry, but, you know, And he beat the fuck out of it.

The only person has ever beaten that guy is John Jones. He's astonishing, Daniel Cormone. He's astonishing. But John Jones fucking took him down at will. An Olympian, double-legged him. Excuse me? Excuse me? A shorter man, double-legged him.

It's astonishing, right? And, but again... Was that the fight where D.C. held the Talem made weight? Was that that fight? It was the second fight. No, I mean, that happened. That happened. Yeah, he held the talem.

I had so much trouble making 205, you know. I know, but that's like a, like that happened, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, like he, they ended up letting him basically. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it was, it's like. I don't know about that. I'm not going to say that.

You know, we already got what we needed. No, hey, wait, wait a minute. Let's go, let's go, boys. Wait a minute. What the fuck? But, but what I'm going to just touch the wall. What I'm looking forward to, though, is watching John, now that he's been out for three years, that's a lot of ring rust.

But if there's anybody who's not susceptible to ring rust, it's, it's, That genius. Do you think having the ability to download somebody is intangible or can that be learned? No, I think that's probably intangible. I think that's fight IQ. That's a different thing. That's something that Connor McGregor has as well. But what I'm curious about with the, what I'm really looking forward to with John and Ghana is that Gagne is a natural giant.

He's a 265 pound man. That's fantastic. Yes. And he moves. He's like just an athlete, maybe on like a NFL. level, I would imagine, you know. I'm careful with that, but you can see it. And John, and he's also, you know, John's not a knockout guy. So I don't think Cyril Gahn's going to be afraid of John. I don't think Cyril Gahn is going to be worried about that. I think Cyril Ghan is going to be like,

I will stand and bang with you, and you can't get hit by Cyril Ghan once well, or you're going to sleep. He knocked out Taito Vasa. Taito Vasa is Tongan or Maori or Samoan. I I'm not sure, but he's... And we've already established that they're different. He's just indestructible. They're different. And... That's the Shui guy?

Yes. Okay, I'm just... I'm just trying to follow the bouncing ball here. Stand and bang with that guy and see what happens, right? You guys know from football. It's a whole different thing. So, but Cyril Gond put him to sleep. It's a different thing.

So I don't... John has to wrestle with Cyril Gond. And if Cyril Gond was smart, he's getting all those Eastern European and Russian wrestlers in France to come down to his camp and fucking give him hell in the clinch and everything else so he understands what to do. A lot of people think I'm wrong,

but I'm going with Cyril Gunn. Wow. Might have to clip that. Yeah, got to clip that. Yeah. Gotta clip that. Hour and 42 minutes. This has been unreal, bro.

It's been awesome. You always know you have a great podcast and we just basically, it's like story time. It's like we just give you the mic, ask a couple questions, and you can go, bro. Thank you, and it's fun listening to you. It's seriously, like your wisdom,

the way you think about everything, with it. It's, it's, it's awesome. Obviously, it comes with a lot of experience. Yeah. Um, but it's been fucking awesome listening to you. And I hope everybody who is watching and listening, like, enjoys as much as we do. Because clearly you have a lot of joy and you have a lot of passion in the comedic realm and humor and everything else, but also like your curiosity along your path and quest to acquire, you know, all the knowledge and things that you had to find your own, like truth and everything else is like just as admirable. It seems like you've watered all the plants in your life. I, I continue to. It's a process, right?

is a good metaphor because, you know, if you don't keep watering them. Yeah. The die. Personally, like I was trying to get to it, but it's almost like you want to know a couple of those pivots in your life that happened that made you get on that quest because it's not like it's just a natural knack that you have to go to. Usually some shifts going on to where you're like, man, I'm just not being fulfilled right now. What holes am I trying to fill to kind of wake that giant up to start reading and everything else?

Hopefully, right? Hopefully, you know, if you're going for something and you really want something out of yourself, You are going to reach, you're going to meet those. You are going to meet that. You're going to meet your shadow. And only the blessed do. So be ready for it. It's a good thing.

It's not a bad thing. Stick around. It was an honor to me. You're a good man. This is a fucking awesome, man. This is a lot of fun. Thank you. I enjoy.

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