Bussin' With The Boys - Bussin' Hires Clay Matthews + Draft Day Prank Tell All & NFL Futures Predictions

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Recorded: May 12th, 2025 In this can't-miss episode of Bussin’ With The Boys, NFL legend Clay Matthews hops on the bus with Will Compton and Taylor Lewan. Clay recounts his viral 2025 NFL Draft prank, where he took the stage in Green Bay and delivered a playful jab at the Chicago Bears, setting social media ablaze and cementing his reputation as a master troll. The boys dive into his memorable on-field moments, including the time former Panthers QB Cam Newton famously called out Clay mid-game for being too obvious with his film study, and how that exchange became instant NFL lore. Clay also shares his perspective on Shedeur Sanders’s surprising slide in the draft, offering insight into the pressures and unpredictability of draft night. The boys break down rookie camp film of Cam Ward and his public appearance with the Savannah Bananas. Rounding out the episode, the crew debates their divisional winners for the upcoming NFL season and gets real about the toll football takes on the body, with Clay opening up about his ongoing battle with a bad back. Make sure to check out our merch at BWTB.com. Like, subscribe, and as always... big hugs, tiny kisses! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro1:38 Larry O’Brien Is With Us2:28 Clay is JOINING the boys7:19 NBA Playoffs12:38 Clay’s Sports Growing Up 15:42 Flag Football Juggernaut Coach24:03 Coaching Your Kids/Getting Coached By Your Dad29:54 Clay’s Draft Moment40:17 NBA Final’s Memories47:58 Mother’s Day Weekend57:56 The Boys And Their Back Issues1:06:29 Clay’s Issue With All-Inclusive Resorts 1:09:34 Clay's ULTIMATE Boy Move At The Draft1:13:15 Shoutout Bo Free Shoutout1:22:36 New QBs This Season1:23:47 Clay's Reaction To Shedeur Sanders1:29:49 Current NFL Contract Issues1:39:08 Clay’s Thoughts On Packers Taking A WR1:40:30 FanDuel Future Parlays1:48:21 Clay vs Cam Newton1:52:08 Bud Light - What Would You Do Anything For?1:54:09 What Would You Get If You Won The PowerBall?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Great trophy in front of your face. Larry O'Brien Trophy is here. So how did this happen? Who reached out to who? Larry reached out to us. Larry himself? Larry himself reached out to us on one of my g-mails. And then we made it happen.

We hopped on a Zoom call with the squad. And I loved the NBA. When I was a kid, I loved the NBA more than any other sport. So to see it here, dream come true. That's beautiful. Got to replicate all the photos of the iconic. Have to. Have to.

Don't have a choice one way or the other. That thing, by the way, sneaky heavy, sneaky heavy thing right there, 30 pounds. The weight distribution is a little bit crazy. I'm very surprised Kevin Durant was able to lift that thing up after only doing 185, zero times. All the championship winners that have touched this trophy, it is, we're sitting with history right now. Right. And oh, by the way.

You know who else is a champion? Who's a champion? Clay Matthews. Our guest, he's back. Matthews, yes sir, yes, sir. Thank you. Great setup. And there's something else is set up, too.

Massive news in the Bustman with the Boys universe. This fall, the locker room, myself, Will Compton, Delaney Walker, and our fourth chair, consistent fourth chair will be none other than Super Bowl champion with beautiful hair. Clay Matthews as well. There he is. He will be here. Week in and week out.

Dude. Fired up. Fired up. But it turns into, I meet you at a charity event. We talk. I have sparkles in my eyes talking to the Clay Matthews, the guy who gave him my welcome the NFL moment to getting you on the bus. You're so scared to come on the bus.

You have to bring your brother at one time. Then all of a sudden you get on. You come in the locker room. You loved it. You're about it. Like I want, I know we're just hanging out. This is just the boys hanging out today.

But I do want to talk about like the process of having you come and like be a part of the locker room with us. Yeah. Because it is awesome. Yeah. Well, I mean, like I told you coming on the first time, I've always been real reserved with the media.

I just, I like to separate my public and private life. That's why I don't really speak about, you know, my wife and kids and kind of our day-to-day operations, which is the exact opposite of you guys. You got Will farting in the mic, you know, you're just doing your thing. So, but yeah, man, what was great about the podcasting world and just being a part of this is it a lot there, it's a comfortable environment where you kind of just speak your mind. There's no producer in your ear talking about best dressed or, you know, you know other hot button topics some guy like to hey 30 seconds they're coming to you next

yeah it's your turn to talk yeah so and then i had i had a great time doing the locker room and just i mean you presented the offer to me and i and i jumped on it so i'm excited i'm looking forward to it i think it'll be a good uh a good mix of the boys was it the little the little popper that brought you back no that made me want to demand uh you know i still feel bad about Comforts guaranteed compensation. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's 10, but, uh, tonight.

Tinnitus. Yeah. We need some injury. We need some injury guarantees in this deal. Yeah, no doubt. But it was awesome. Like having you on the first time and knowing you don't do a whole lot of media, it was just cool to kind of dive into that, the USC world, the Packers, all that stuff.

And then to see your curiosity and then the locker room. And then seeing how much like how prepared you are as a human, like when we're, hey, you should come in the locker room. We talk about bed. Like, okay, what do we do? It's like, really, we just watch the games. And we talk about. who we think's going to win next based on the odds for the next week.

And you came on did and you just flowed with the boys like it was nothing. Good. It was great. You know who helps give picks other than football? Who? Clay does for the NBA. Well, my, okay. So I mentioned this when we were on the locker.

My brother. No, I'm not. I'm not allowed to. Yeah, we can't talk about your brother. We have a guy. Oh, all right. We'll just say we have a guy. We have a guy who gives me picks, read between the lines here.

And he's a stud when it comes the NBA. Yeah, he stayed with us for Thanksgiving one time, him and his family. They're up there in Cleveland. But, man, the amount of research, it's not just a gut feeling. The amount of research that goes into it, minutes played against zone defense first man, when going up against a seven-foot defender, whatever it is in the NBA. And so he has some parlays that hit. Now, we've been unlucky lately.

We've been unlucky lately. Yeah, it's been tough lately. That's why the NBA is so difficult to predict. But, yeah, he's been helping me out with some bets. And then I gave, I should have helped you with you. UFC, you know, bets that you put out this weekend. I'm a big UFC fan, but, man, I, that was a, that was a tough night for, tough card. Tough card. Tough card. Took, took, took a few losses, but we're going to bounce back. Had a five leg parlay lost right away. Yeah, the UFC, the UFC card.

It's Canadian. I'll say names. Zaid. Zaid gave me that parlay. I reached out to Zaid. Zaid is this cat from Chicago, he's always in Vegas when I'm in Vegas. He's like, Taylor, I got all the picks. I know all I know everything. And every time I don't bet with him, he's like, you should hit. I was seven for seven. If you parlayed that, you bet $100, there's a million dollars, all these different things. Then every time I do bet with him, it never works out. So Zaid and I got to do some sage or something like that. It's just not good.

I would like you to come to me, though, moving forward. Not to say I'm going to be right, but I'd like to give my input. I'd like to give my input. So from here on out, every UFC fan duels. Every UFC fan duels that we put together, Clay Matthews will have his hand on it. Also, this interview is brought to us by Bud Light. But Light has always brewed with four simple ingredients for a clean, Chris Taste.

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Sorry, we had to get that out of it. We had to do that. Love Bud Light. But the boys are, you see them highlighting it on me. Does our guy, Brian, like does our guy, does he have a pick for the NBA finals? Like, who's going to win at all? Do you have a prediction? Well, I know you like to follow it too. I think the Celtics are going to win.

I know they're down, you know, it's now 2-1, but I think the Celtics are just that good. Indianapolis is looking great right now, up 3-1, but I think it's going to be Boston again. Okay. How do you feel about that? I love his pick. I love that pick, yeah. One of the reasons why you love that pick. My boy, JJ Redick's out of it.

The Lakers are out of it. So, you know, I don't really have a dog in the fight. So I'm going to lean on my dog Clay and our guy that we won't mention in their picks. Because last week we did, he had a, he just drops every so often. He'll drop a parlay and he'll say, this is it. This is the one. Yeah. And then he doesn't hit.

But then, hey, he doesn't give up. He's not discouraged. Keep swing. Yeah. Because even it was on Friday. And so it was like, let's all consolidate. we're all going to do pizza Friday together to make sure this parlay hits

and I want to say every leg except one did not hit so it was It was close though Yeah it was close You always want your parleyes to hit Where it's every single one except for maybe the last one Yeah but I don't necessarily have a dog in the fight with the NBA I'm more so just like watching the athletes

You guys see uh watching the athletes Just watching the boys run around What's um what's his name Anthony Edwards? Yeah Anthony Edwards Him going up top I didn't know he was only 6 3 Yeah I mean Yeah

What college did he go there? I have no clue Georgia Nope Georgia Yeah I was from the hip Yeah hey that dunk

And the Shout out to the Minnesota team Their social media team Because they crush it with him But Clay How do you feel about aunt I like him I like his

Swagger I like did you see the clip With when he was in front of Obama Yeah Ron Talking about he's that man Or that dude or whatever He had said

I love it I think they need more of that in the NBA. And then you saw him get after LeBron, kind of pushing him a little bit. Oh, there you go. This is a great clip right here.

Just kind of showing his mentality. I feel like we don't get that enough anymore. At least viewership, you know, we're always trying to go to, we, these athletes are trying to go to the free throw line, you know,

flopping and stuff. And I feel like Ant Man is... He's got some old school in him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's a,

uh, uh, uh, conversations that always takes place around the bus. It's usually JP and Will about football and NBA. and that NBA guys could play in the NFL. What's your take on NBA guys playing in the NFL? NBA guys?

Can they do it at a high level? You mean just like throwing them out there or if they like train to become? I don't train to become. Is it trained? I think if you train them to become, first of all, you have to have, you know,

somebody who can take the hits and the physical nature. But that's hard to quantify, you know, without seeing what they, what they can handle. But from an athletic perspective, absolutely. I think they could. Athletically, they could for sure. but there's something different about football the physicality of that like it's not it's not for

everybody right you just can't do it and you can't just take a guy just because all the athletic ability in the world and make him into something special in the NFL we're not with those shade obviously the trophy's here I understand that but the larryo trophy here I understand yeah but I'm just saying as the better athletes better athletes you're probably the NBA you're talking about athletes though like yeah like who can jump higher yeah that's NBA I was just curious You put a corner out there Yeah

Yeah look There are some some elite athletes in the NBA All of them are elite athletes Because they're in the top 1% of their sport But I've been coming around to Yeah maybe these guys do have some shit to them Especially Anthony Edwards I'm telling you must jump over two people

And yeah Russell Westbrook Turning back the clock locking down SGA I don't know if y'all saw that But SGA probably league MVP Russell Westbrook locks him down like end of game pretty much to seal to win

and Russell Westbrook is how old like 34, 35? No clue. He's 34, 35? Yeah. And locking down the best player in the league in the NBA playoffs. It's so impressive how those guys play for so long. I feel like 10 years is like the average in the NBA. Guys just go forever.

And he's toward his ACLs like That's better than me. That is better than me. Yeah, I couldn't I'm like, you boy messed around the YMCA in third grade. I was like one of the few kids that could shoot a three. One of the few kids. But that's, that was it. That's as far as it went from me.

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That's more like a Midwest thing. We didn't do that on the West cause. I wish I did though. Wrestlers are studs. I saw some old video of you getting pinned or were you getting pinned or were you? No, I was dog and the kid. Yeah, yeah. Hit him with a fake cut, let him up.

No. head in the side, cradled him. Yeah. No, and then I went to high school and that ain't me. I started pulling up pictures. Filling up a picture of a big. Is that you? No, that's not me.

It said Clay Matthews? That's me on the right and that's my brother, Brian, on the left. But anyway, I played basketball, but I developed late in high school and was getting like, on the puberty late and I wasn't getting any burn. So I just just retired. I was like, oh, look at the football player, try to shoot a basketball. great on defense though No easy buckets

People were scared Five points or five fouls Yeah That's always our go-to as well It's like oh we can play some defense We can play some defense We can set some screens Yeah

Dude the wrestling thing is such a Midwest thing Because I never crossed my mind Growing up in Arizona But it is something you look at now Like oh I've said this so many times In the show But every time Will's put his hands on me And I think I'm gonna

He throws me around Even when I was like 310 315 I would go and try to wrestle him And he would just pick me apart And this guy was on JV his senior year. Stop, man, stop, man.

Okay, well, okay. Well, we'll get back. Yeah. It's a metaphor. Didn't you say you were JV, your junior or senior year? No, like when I first, when my parents made me go back into wrestling, they said I could either be grounded for the winter or I could wrestle. So when I got back into wrestling, that's still such a crazy.

At the very beginning of the year, they sent me to a JV tournament to like earn my stripes or like I had to stay back. I couldn't go on varsity. Went to the JV tournament, did not get scored on with one of the worst hangovers of my life because I threw a party at the house the night before. But that's the only time I was on, I was on JV. Qualified for State, man. Come on.

My bad. My bad. My bad. But like you mentioned, the body control. Like the centers are offensive linemen who were former wrestlers. You just be like, all right. Like, you just can't put hands on them because they just brace and lock you. Yeah.

Get around them a little bit. Yeah. Because the wrestling is my daughter, my youngest, Willow, she's doing jiu-jitsu right now. And then she kind of, like, wanted to get away from it for a little bit. And I was really pressing her. Yeah. Just, hey, sweetie, I promise. Like, you just keep doing this.

bend yourself. Now she's running around. We put Kung Fu Pen on this weekend. And then she started, yeah, she started throwing around some kicks and all these things. I was like, you want to learn karate? She's like, yeah, I was like, Jiu-Jitsu is the way to go. She's like, I'm back. So we had like three-week hiatus and now we're getting back into it on Tuesday, which fires me up. Yeah. Because my oldest, there's just not a competitive bone in her body. She doesn't have it. Yeah. She doesn't have the stuff, which is heartbreaking. Because for me, I mean, we all grew up in sports. We all grew up in like, you go, you play every single sport, depending on what season it is. they just roll into the next one over and over again.

With my kids, they're like, I got my daughter in soccer, didn't care for it. They love, like, art and music and all these different things, which is great. But now I'm as a father like, I'm out of my wheelhouse. I need to find something. So, jih Tzu. How old are your daughters? Seven and four. All right, well, we got a stud flag football team.

I've got two girls on our, on our team. We're, you know, accepting of all genders. Okay. And, you know, we got a good little squad. They're coached up. We got one more game and then playoffs this week. Really? We're going to be back to back.

What's the age group we're talking about here? Like five, six year olds. Okay. So it's considered pre-K. Gotcha. But you're going to move up with them as they get older. Yeah. Yeah.

Because my, that's my youngest is in that. And it's like you had mentioned. That was the first time. I don't know if I had mentioned this last time, but coaching them where I felt that. Yeah. That adrenaline. That rush. It was this first game like a year ago.

year and a half ago, we won on like a touch. I'm being honest. Like I know. I know. That's my last. We won like 30. Yeah. I told my wife this.

I'm like this is why people get back into coaching because you just have this wealth of knowledge that you want to give to everybody. And that's where I'm at. Like I love coaching these kids. I coach them hard. You know, the first thing I tell them is like we're going to win. Like I don't I don't like the coaches who let's have a good time.

It doesn't matter if we went. No, we're out here to win. We're out here to be great. let's let's let's take advantage of our time like they will develop the skills and then I got to lean on the dogs on the team like my son and the other ones you know I'm just saying like who is your son a dog yeah he's a dog or is it like that's the coach's son no no there's no okay he's he's got that dog there's a meritocracy but he's he's six years old so like let's take that with a grain of salt but he knows what's being asked him I always talk to him like I try

and talk to him at like a man at six years old like hey these other kids are looking at up to you. You know, they might be in pre-k, you know, four. What are these? So I need him to be the example, the role model. So I'm just trying to set the tone moving forward. But I'm not, like, I got to preface this and say, I'm not that sports dad. Like, I'm not that. Like, my kids have fun. That's you right there. And the parents, no, and the parents have fun too. And we have fun by winning, learning the game, building confidence, having respect, everything that you would hope that your child would be taught from, you know, a coach

or role model? Do you have a kid or has there been a kid that hasn't wanted to play sports? On our team? On, in your family. Oh, yeah. My oldest is probably the same as your daughter where he's like, you know,

we tried him out in soccer just being like, nah, but he's, he'll probably, you know, build spaceships or something like that, like Elon or he's loving fishing right now. I think they've got some fishing, you know, clubs out here, which we didn't have on the West Coast.

So, yeah, he'll find, his niche, but I tell my kids, like, I don't care what you do. Like, my daughter, you know, she does play basketball and some other sports, but she loves gymnastics and dance. I'm like, just be the best at it. Just be the best at whatever it is you do. And you'll be fine at life. Like, that's all that comes back to, be the best podcasters, you know, whatever it is. Like, you will have success. It doesn't, you don't have to play football. You don't have to play sports. But naturally, like, I gravitate towards that because that's what I did as a kid. Just be the best.

So your son, he doesn't play any sports? My oldest, no. Or you don't keep him playing sports if he didn't like it? Well, listen, I mean, like, kind of like my dad told me, if we start something, we finish it. But if you don't want to play after the season, that's fine. That's the move. That is the move. Because when I put my oldest in soccer, it was very, very quick. She was like, this is not really my bag.

And I just told her, you're doing the whole season. Right. And we're going to go every single time. I'll go with you every single time. But we have to go. Like, your team's waiting on you. They're relying on you. And so once she was done with the season, it was over.

But you have to finish the season out. Well, my son, my youngest, who, you know, his first game playing in flag football, he played two snaps and cried the whole time on the sideline as I'm trying to coach him send him off to his mom you know do this and now he can't get enough like when's the next game he's you know he's he just loves you know sports loves football right now so I think that comes from confidence as well so how does how does you take your kid who plays two snaps cries goes to his mom to now he loves it like well how did you work on that because that's maybe where I need to fill in the gap a little bit is I don't know how hard to push or how hard it's yeah it's consistency because every time I push too hard then I you know

you're like, oh, did I go too hard? And if I'm too soft, I'm like, oh, I'm being soft on him. So I think we all have that internal, you know, kind of tug of war of parenting. But I think just consistency and, and given your kid kind of the resiliency and courage to have confidence, you know, that confidence. Because I think that's what it stems from. My kids tend to shut it down when they don't have confidence, when they're in a new environment. So it's just feeling them with that like, you know, like you can do this. You're going to be all right.

Everything's okay. And then as they start to do it, you know, they get better at it. and they learn to like it and they learn to be the example. So, yeah, I mean, we're having a good parenting talk right here. That is a good. Yeah, it is good because it is like just fighting through the fringe of the insecurity and fear. Yeah. What they knew.

My daughter had they had a World Day at school where they all had they did. My daughter did Panama. She had to make a whole thing for the animals in there. And then she's talking to me the night before about there's going to be 400 people that I have to perform in front of. And her and her and I are going through her whole thing. Then her mom gets home from like a little like an outing for nature and nurture company and I find out it's like everyone just goes into a room and the parents kind of walk around

and like look oh that's real nice and then you kind of keep going but win was like trying to dial in all the different animals all the different things to the point we're up we're up till like 1030 and she's like so nervous about speaking in front of people she's like have you ever spoken in front of people before I'm like oh sweetheart you guys let's see a couple photos this is me at the grand old opera you know and start showing her some stuff but it is like the pushing part to me I worry about because I don't want them to like get pushed so far that they kind of just shit the bed when it happens so it's a war you might need to put willow on his team that's what i was that's what i was yeah that's what i was alluding to at the at the beginning is like we you know they're still at the

age where they put the boys and girls together before they separate them and obviously it means nothing to the boys right now but there's a part of me that loves it when our when our girls get after it on the team yeah yeah yeah i love it yeah willows will is definitely she has more coordination right now than when when's like built like me like she just is still still got that baby deer movement. Like she kind of doesn't know how to run or kick or throw. Willow for whatever reason just picks it up and goes. Yeah. So she might

yeah, yeah, we'll look and do it. We'll talk about it. Well, we're just finishing up, so we'll have to get you on the fall end. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Try out. Try out to be in the fall. Clay attacks. And Roo's too young. You looking for an online coach? Have her play up. That's how you get better. We can do that. All we have is, it's five men. He would accept. It seems like this a squad that you got to come with him. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I really

enjoy it. We need to get Rue under the mentorship of a Clay Matthew. passing out. Be the example. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Because when he's asking, I was like, oh, yeah, you're trying to build a, are you going to move up with them?

Are you going to stick the coach and the five and six year olds? Could you imagine Clay's kids just like 15, 16 years old and he's like still with the five and six year olds? He might be. He's just random five and six year olds. That's what Luke and then we're doing. Yeah, but I feel they're with Olson's kid. Right.

Their kids like they grow up with them every time. Remember they're in middle school right now, but when they get the high school, it's almost like the high school staff's going to get fired and they're going to come in and take over. You got to know that high school staff. That's what my dad did. So when my dad retired, I was in, I think I just finished fifth grade, you know, somewhere in fifth grade and he took over as coach. He might not have been the head coach, might have been decordinator, whatever it is, but he stayed with us the whole time.

And we just, you know, you just have that same group of kids who goes through an NFL, you know, mindset of how to run. I mean, we were running like zone blitzes in high school, just off, you know, offenses just, just putting a blend. Menacing. Yeah. You were basically, your dad was the first Dion Sanders. I mean, The first. Yeah, Santers.

I love, I love Coach Prime, but I think they're too very different. But yeah. Yeah, he goes up with this team. Yeah, yeah, he goes to the whole entire time. In that respect.

Yeah, he was with us the whole time. And then as soon as I graduated, he went to my other brother and I went to his high school and worked his way up. And they always had great teams. And they were, they were coached well. I mean, coaching is so important.

There's no doubt about it. Yeah. I mean, that family. They were coached well. They were. Yeah, in high school, did you see guys with technique in high school? It's like,

who were they working with. Craig Rowe played at Michigan with me, but he was a kid in high school that like actually had technique and coordination. He was at D-end and he would just know the body and like he wasn't like the most physically gifted guy in the world, but he was a stud. And I was like, where is he getting this? Because we're all kind of just running around out there still even in high school. So shout Craig Rowe. There he is. The coach's kid too, he's always got kind of a leg up initially when they're young. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were, I thought you were, you know, just in the way that you are taking, you know, digs at me. Oh, no.

Because I was about to say, no, Mr. Clay Matthews. No, you're right. You're right in that regard because, you know, they live it, you know. But I felt like, there was times when I was in high school where, like, my dad was just ruthless. Not ruthless. I shouldn't say that when I get a bad rap. But just like, he had to make sure he wasn't showing me preferential treatment. So it was always, you know, you got work a little bit hard.

You get treated a little bit different. Same goes with my kid at this age. It's like, obviously, you build them up when they have good times. But you just, you know, other kids are goofing around you, yell at your kid for like the one in there. Yeah. you know, try and tighten them up. In California, do you have to be a part of, like,

the school staff to be a coach as well? Or you can just kind of come in. No, I, well, I'm not sure how it is public versus private, but no, my dad wasn't a part of the, wasn't a part of the staff,

so I'm not sure how that worked. Maybe he didn't take a salary or something. Yeah. Just like showed up, just showed out. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. Just always having to perform

in front of your old man, too. Yeah. You had to give him the whole, like, you're going to be treated how you treat the team speech. Yeah. That's the first thing you have with the kids. Well,

Because like, you know, naturally every kid thinks they know more than their father. And, you know, when dad played 19 years and I'm like, I just didn't want to hear it. And it wasn't until even going to college, like, it took a while for me to be comfortable with him watching me and all that. I don't know if you guys ever went through that, like having your, having your dad come and watch and being embarrassed or, you know, just not wanting to let him down. So. Yeah. And then they want to talk to you like after the game and you kind of just like. Whatever.

Yeah, exactly. Very short answers, kind of your body language is kind of turned away from her. High school, I think you're more receptive because you know, you're a little. man played high school ball so you think like well there's the opposite for me because it wasn't until the NFL where I was like dad let's let's talk yeah let's talk like I need help right right see my see my dad was never come to me when I was in the NFL and be like maybe you should do that I'm like listen we're going to be all right Dave don't worry and I have to go find I'll go to my coaches I enjoy talking to my dad more like when I was playing it not even in college but the

NFL but yeah if he brought up schematics or you draw of technique okay dad so what do you think about punching with the outside arm first and then I'm like Dave no I'm not I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. The dads though, how was your dad, like, the reason I'm bringing this, it was Will. I remember I tore my ACL and I went to Will's house and then Will's dad spent two hours telling me how much of a glue guy Will is, like boasting about in Will the best, in the awesome, I'm like thinking like, I think my career's over. I'm so sad and I just want to hang on my boys. But was your dad like the proud dad or was he like it could always be better dad? I think he was somewhere in between. I don't think he obviously, he let me know.

you know, when I did a good job, you know, post game, traveling to the games and whatnot. And then, you know, he was always, he was always careful about tiptoeing that. Like, hey, can I, can I offer, you know, like he didn't want to insert himself knowing that I probably have, you know, me and him are so much alike. We're so like, I got this, but at the same token, like one has to want to receive, you know, that type of coaching, so to speak, parenting. So he was always like, can I offer something? Yeah, sure, dad. Let's go. Like, tell me.

So he was good about that. But at the same token, you know, I mean, wasn't like he was telling me it was never enough or, you know, telling me, I'm not to say that's not the right thing. You should have all the confidence in your son, you know, talking about me for two hours. Just like, he's a good career. You know, that type of guy. Just rear, shh. Yeah, 19 years in the NFL did is insane. But that was proud, man.

No doubt. I kind of, I'm like, I'm like, smile about it. Yeah. It's just funny. His old man got, you said 19, yeah, you played 19 years in the league. It's like, my dad didn't. So him seeing his boy. Like, yeah, he's a proud.

He's a proud. Yeah, no doubt. Dave's the same way. Well, I always got these times where I go home and, you know, I just, I like to reflect and think. And you had posted, you had posted like a tweet or an, you know, whatever, post on X talking about how you were a free agent and you played, what, nine, allegedly 10 years. Like, that's remarkable, dude. Like, I truly mean that.

Like, to go from a, you know, a free agent to playing that many years is impressive. Because, you know, as a first round pick, like, you're kind of handed the keys. Like, don't screw it up. You get a guaranteed four. five years and you know you got time to develop but as a free you know I just want to tell you good job man that's awesome I actually thought about that and I was like man that's that's impressive you know that's impressive thank you man I was waiting for the butt I know yes I was thinking maybe he's about to kill this man in a second good job receiving that compliment too

you did a good job with that you're the best I'm gonna need that clip though too and I'm gonna send to my old man hey deck Lee Matthew yeah yeah we're more Ray Malauuga fan, all right? We interrupt this episode. If you are currently taking a two, then this ad is for you. Are you fumbling the ball when it comes to getting a confident clean back in your end zone? Make the right play, call an audible, and switch from dry toilet paper to wet, extra large dude wipes.

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We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.

But this one's extra special. So how do we... How do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. The free agency, it's like the first time watching cuts happen. When you are the first round pick

and you think, oh, we're all just going to be here together forever. Like your whole draft class, you're together and you have the free agent guys. And then that fourth preseason game comes and dudes just come and dab you up. Guys are crying. Like, that was to me, like, shocking. Yeah.

So shocking to me. seeing guys like just gone. And then the next like two days later, four or five guys are back. Yeah. It's just a, you did it, man. Yeah.

We all, it's different. Yeah, we all had great careers. But yeah, thank you. I need to receive. Yeah,

take that thing. Think that thing. We all played great. Yeah. Dude, the draft. Jeff was great. Great execution.

Oh, thank you. It was amazing. Thank you. The whole thing. A plus. I had no idea. I saw you come out on that bike.

I saw you stand behind. I'm thinking to myself, good company, man. He's doing this thing right now. And obviously we saw you right before. Yeah. And then going to do the speeches you did.

Can you just run down that process a little bit? Yeah, man. So I was, well, I'll just go back to the beginning. So I don't know where, you know, people were like, where'd you come up with that idea to, you know, mentioned Trump and then bears still suck. So my agent, you know, I was going to be out there, you know, some endorsement opportunities, appearance opportunities. Shout out, Bud Light. Bud Light was one of them. Shout out, Bud Light.

And they had asked if I wanted to come up on stage, much like last years in Detroit, two years ago and came. in Kansas City. So I looked at last years and it was like Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Aidan Hutchinson, Jared Gough, you know. And I thought it was great. Like obviously you got a mixture of legends and current players and but they all went up there and they just screamed into the mic, you know? And I was just like, I don't really just want to get up there and be like, Green Bay, make some noise. I was like, let's make this memorable. So I don't know where it came from, but I ran it by my wife. I go, you know, she's always the voice. The reason, what do you, what do you think about this? You know, and she's like, yes.

you need to do this. So she's the master at Photoshop. So I went online and searched for some letterhead with, you know, his, President Trump's signature on it. And so she was like, we need it bigger. We need this. We need to make it look like handwriting. If you're going to hold it up.

So she was behind it and she did a great job right there. But anyways, I didn't tell anybody because I knew the NFL wasn't going to improve it. You know, I knew just, you know, just in today's political climate, you mentioned one's, you know, political affiliation left, right. Like it's just not going to go over well with with the NFL. So I, man, I was, I was nervous backstage. I was with Jordy. I'm on Green James Jones, Mason Crosby.

Little Wayne showed up back there. Meanwhile, like everyone's, I'm just, because I'm, you know, I got this envelope that I'm holding just shaking because I'm like. And they didn't know. No, they didn't know. They didn't know. There was a bunch of stuff going, probably overthinking things. But I go, listen, this is a live event.

They could cut me off if I go too long past 15, 20 seconds. You know, so they had asked me. Hey, is there anybody who wants to go up there and say some things like last year? So I kind of, you know, Mason and Jordan, like, I'm not going to do that. I said, I'll get, I'll get them going, I'll get them going, you know, so I kind of fit in. But I didn't know where I was going to fit in with Lil Wayne and whatnot. As far as when he was just a wild wrinkle to have him out there as well. He just showed up.

So I'm like, well, is he going to say any? I just thought like he should have at least, you know, like Eminem did last year. Like he should have at least, he just kind of came up there. But anyway, so then, yeah, the opportunity just kind of opened itself. And I just, I pulled this piece of paper out and just. And it went over well. It went over well. My brother who I, you know, Kyle who was on here with me last time, he 10 out of 10 execution,

delivery, everything was on point. So I was, I was happy with how it landed. The boys all behind me, they enjoyed it. They had no idea. So they were, you know, equally as fired up. And then, you know, anytime you can take a chance to put the bears down, you know. Yeah. You got to take it.

So one over well, I went, I went, then I went backstage. I'm like, oh, now I got to face. I got to face the wrath of Goodell and everybody else. Viral immediately. But they were super cool backstage. I was like, you know, I kind of half-heartedly apologize while laugh. I say, hey, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I knew you were going to prove it with this and that.

And so Roger was like, I just, I didn't want to laugh when I was out. Because, you know, I didn't want him to seem like he was, he knew what was happening, complicit, whatever you would call it. And but they were all like, there was a few. I'm like, hey, let me, you know, because I had the sheet. They're like, let me get a picture of you with it. So they were super cool about it. Yeah. So it was good.

It all went over. I told, I'll probably never be invited back again. But, oh, you made your mark, though. Yeah, it was cool. And then the phone. When you're riding the bike out there, like, how nervous are you? Oh, I was so nervous because I told them, like, in a week before, like, are you open to riding a bike out there?

And I was like, no, I don't want to ride a bike. Like, I got, my wife put me in these Tom Ford Pans, beautiful, you know, like, super, super tight, you know, got these loafers on. And so, but everyone else was doing, I don't need one guy to walk my bike. I wrote it out there. But yeah, I was nervous. Not to be on stage, but just to deliver something that I, like, I was just fired up for but that nobody knew.

So I was like, I just hope it goes over as well as my wife thinks it's going to come over. I think it did. And then the response I got from it was great too because I'm like, oh, this is a dig at the bears, right? Well, then it turned political, you know, it's like, you know, I've lost all respect for clay, you know, this and that. All right. But I was happy.

It went over well. Yeah. You're not going to please them all. But that was 10 in a 10. Yeah. Well, it wouldn't have worked with anybody else. Like it just, the joke wouldn't have worked because I, watch your guys as, you know, your time up there in Green Bay.

And when I went up there, you know, you're filming yourself and you hear me talk about, you know, Donald Trump, you're like, oh, no. I can sense. I could sense in you. You're like, he's going to bomb or he's going to like, now's not the time. Yeah. Like, oh, no. I think you're about to plant your flag in the mega world.

And I thought this is a crazy time to do that. Yeah, I could just tell you were like, oh, he was right about everything. Yeah. Oh, shit. All right. We're back on time. Yeah. We did it.

Yeah. But that's why I worked because I had you I had you out here. I had you out here. So I had 50% going. Don't make it political. I got 50% going. What did he say? Yeah.

And then I take it a whole different direction. The bear still sucks. Dude, in the pause too, is like, I just got off the phone with Donald Trump. He has a letter. Let's see what it says. And you took the time to open it up. So everybody in the room is holding their breath like, fuck, what is about to happen? You got a bunch of guys.

Probably, what's you going to fuck? And yeah, yeah. Playa boys out there. And then for you to do that. Like, it was the 10 out of 10 delivery. Well, thank you. Yeah, it was good. Did Trump catch wind of it?

I'm assuming he did. It's funny because my mom, I talked to her. I got home that night and she called me and, you know, oh my gosh. Like we were delayed, you know, dad pushed paws and, you know, something was happening. So their phones started blowing up there. And like some of their Chicago friends are like, not cool, you know, things. What happened? And so they were just, they were, they were laughing.

They were thinking it's hysterical. But my mom was like, do you think President Trump's going to see this? And I was like, no way. Hey, like he's got, I mean, we're over there talking about tariffs and the Middle East and stuff. I go, no way. And then you know he's on it. So the next night, Friday night, it's like 10 p.m. And a Washington number text me.

And it said like, hey, this is so and so with President Trump. Like, I think it's his like right hand girl who does all the tweeting and whatnot. And he delivered a nice text, something along the lines of, you know, you delivered your speech with the same fiery approach that you took to the game. I'm like, hell yeah. So I let it sit that night because I was like, I don't know if I'm getting pranked or whatnot. So the next day the Packers PR was calling me saying, hey, a certain someone wants to get in touch with you. So I just replied back. And I wrote something nice to him.

And he's like, yeah, all right. Stay in touch. So I was like, sweet. But like, listen, we won a Super Bowl when Obama was in office. And Obama, his wife, Michelle, her brother, I believe, was like the Oregon basketball coach or women's basketball. And I met him. So he, you know, he shook everybody's hands and was like, you know, nice to meet you. Then when he saw me, you know, it's the whole key and he and P.O.

sketch. Like, did I get that? Yeah, I want to say he dapped me. We got to look back through the archives. But he was so cool. Like, he was so cool. Just like, knew about my family history. New about my brother going to Oregon.

And I was like, man, this is great. Anytime you have the, now here's me, you know, anytime you have the ability, the opportunity, I should say, to like meet the president. like it's awesome yeah you take it you absolutely take it 100% yeah so it was awesome it was it the joke landed you know made a contact out of it made a friend and uh we carried on uh made a friend when you met Obama had you was the key and peel sketch before I think you met Obama I think it was after it was after yeah I have no clue but I just wanted to know what side I'm wondering if it's like in your head the the sketch is out there like is he going

try and shake my head I'm going to make it known that we're dapping no I was reading his energy you know what I was reading his energy you know what Yeah, he went and he had the little laugh, you know, like, and the hand was up. Yeah. The elbows up. I was like, oh, we're in. We're in. Boy.

Yep. Obama, he understood, man. The whole thanks, Obama thing, he, like, leaned into that as well. When everyone was like, thanks, Obama, did everything, inflation's so high. Thanks, Obama that. And he had this bit where he, like, had a giant cookie and a glass of milk. And the cookie wouldn't fit in the glass of milk. He's like, thanks, Obama.

Like, he had a whole bunch of stuff like that. And the Dap thing. Yeah, it is. I got a hand shook by Obama one time. There was me, Denar Robinson and Patrick O'Mah. He was doing a commencing speech at Michigan. And he dapped up Patrick O'Mehame, black guy. Daphed up Denard Robinson, black guy.

Gave me the stern, white guy handshake. Yeah, so we are not in the same level. Did you have your tat showing, though? I think I was wearing like a blue Michigan-colored shirt. It's a khaki pants. And he's like this. Yeah, clean, clean-cut. Yeah.

Yeah. Old linemen walked up. Nice to meet you. He nice to meet you, sir. Absolutely. So I got the handshake. Went up this episode to bring you. Simply safe. What are we trying to keep safe at there, kids safe? We're trying to keep family safe. Kids safe, new car, garage, everything. The whole kitten kombutal, as they say. Traditional security, traditional kiboutes.

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back, that that was electric. You might be mixing together finals. Yeah. Am I mixing together finals? Yeah, yeah. You're thinking of with Miami when Ray Allen hit a three. Three one was with the Cavs. He was at the Cavs. That was his first year. That was his first year he came back from Miami, right? Yeah, yeah.

Came back and went with the Cavs and won it with them. Yeah, you're thinking of Kyrie, though, when he hit that three. Okay. That was that the final game was that? I don't think it was the last game, but it was game seven to put it away. Yeah. Yeah. Great serious.

Yeah. The block. Yeah, because LeBron. That's right. LeBron's block. That was the year the Warriors had like the, like arguably the best regular season of all time.

73 and 9? Yeah, bro. Which is insane. Crazy. That is crazy. Other than that, I think of like when MJ was playing back in the 90s, like because space jam it came out.

Yeah, like I didn't think I recognized how great MJ was until the last dance came out. Because I was taking a thing in a way to like, how do we bring up who's our goat? And my, my answer would be Michael Jordan. But the only reason why I bring up that answer

is because it would be because of the last dance. The last dance, was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen in my entire life. I love when former players give, like I always enjoy seeing former players give like Jordan his praise. There's flowers or his props. Same with Kobe. It's fun to watch, you know,

because as a fan of the game. And I hope when it's all said and done, because, you know, football, it's tough. It's like, you know, Taylor was, you know, I beat him a couple. You know, it's like we have such an ego. Right. It's always nice when, you know, you see the guys on like the TNT desk or whatnot,

kind of let their guard down, so to speak. and, you know, give praise to other great players. It's fun to watch as a fan. Like, you only hope that the NFL can... Because I just find, like, in the NFL world, everyone's so guarded that, you know, we're always so worried about, like, we're the bad. Still a little posturing always going on.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was fun. Like, that interview you did with, like, Luke Keekely, I was, like, watch. And I was, like, what a great guy. Now, you know, I'm just sitting here, like, dude, great guy.

Like, I just, you know, you want to give someone their flowers and their praise and stuff. That's just just a separate. I wonder if... And take it an approach, too, of like you just being a fan of the game and realizing it's like, you know, anytime we've had you on or being around you,

I mess around with you, but it's like appreciating the game and art that you had on the field. I love to refer to it as art. But just giving guys their praise, like you are a fan because we were all, we were all those little kids growing up watching these players play.

Just because you played with them, against them, or they're older than you, younger and you, same age. It's like, it's still the same approach. I feel like people mess with that. Because, again, your fans watching the game and when you see other greats or other players,

that are sitting there, taking it from like the fan perspective and just appreciating it. Because it's like, yeah, your ego get in the way of like throwing some flowers somewhere. Right. And that's why you just want to be like, yeah, I played pretty good, right? Especially when you're playing like you feel like you shouldn't give, I don't know if you feel like you shouldn't get people flowers,

but like the thought of giving somebody else flowers is like almost takes away from you. But it shouldn't be that way at all. Because you see these ex-basket players and they do definitely give more flowers. And I feel like football players do. And then Kikli coming on, I'm just watching this guy, he was the ultimate team guy. Just the way he's talking. Is he so accomplished

that he's not worried? Right. Or is it, was he always this way? Because the way he even talks about his career, it's like, bro, you don't understand. Like how good,

how fucking good you were. He was incredible. Even when he had concussions and he couldn't be physical anymore. He was just as productive, like keeping his head out of everything, which to me is impossible. Yeah.

Yeah. To be able to transition like that. But even just giving his teammates his flowers too, like it could have been so easy for him to talk about how they check to two there. and not really brought up Thomas Davis. But how he goes into each guy and how it made the play work and everything else.

It was awesome. Loose the man, dude. JP, I know you're a big NBA guy. Your fondest memory of the NBA Finals My fondest memory actually comes from one of my dreams because I'm a big heat fan. And in this dream, I guess I was in college, but I'm in the huddle.

I'm on the team. And Coach Spoh, he's coach. he's he's coaching us and we're drawing up the final play we're down by two and i we're all thinking it's going to lebron and coach foe's like no j p it's coming to you d-wade is going to inbound lebron is going to set the screen at the top of the key you're going to come around the screen and you're going to bang it home and we're going to bring a championship to a 305 i was all right let's do it not knock it down knock down the three get lifted up on lebron and d wade's shoulders and legit my dream ends as i'm like walking out or on their shoulders with the trophy

and just like this is the greatest day of my life and then i wake up and how to go to class y'all not you're not aware of what i just accomplished that's one of my favorites that is beautiful growing up i mean so many summers like june i feel like the NBA finals to me is summer growing up where like June hits you're out of school you're with all your friends you're watching what's hopefully a great series and we had so many good series growing up so that's my NBA finals. You're a little emotional back there. That's good. Yeah, that was a great, great dream.

I remember growing up in L.A., just watching the Lakers, Kobe, Shaq, even before them, Nick Van Exel. But I remember Big Shot Bob, Robert Orie, nailing down a three. I want to say it was against the Kings or something. That was always a heated rivalry versus the Kings. Vlade Divac. But, yeah, who was Derek Fisher, too, hitting that shot against? Was it San Antonio with point? point something seconds like just lots of good memories NBA is fun to watch I got to get into it more

we would have I got to be more intentional about watching the NBA at Nebraska like when we were doing the summer training and everything else like being June and all the guys would get together it was back back when LeBron was young and they had that series that remember against the spurs yeah oh when they just started killing them yeah bro they were killing him because you're either just like now you're either pro for LeBron or you're against LeBron. And when that went down, the Spurs end up beating him. Oh, that was tough.

I was fighting for my life as a LeBron fan. I'm like, you still almost average a triple double. Yeah, yeah. And then just shelled up. Yeah. Sheld up. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll get into this ad read because we've got to get the Larry O'Brien trophy out of here.

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We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Just listen we don't care where you hear it Boys how was uh how was Mother's Day weekend

It's good yeah it's nice yeah yeah yeah like uh we didn't really do nothing Wash the dishes yeah no I literally I turned mother's day into mother's weekend and we just basically mean the kids I had like a sit-down conversation with my kids Friday night and I was I was like, when you wake up in the morning, you wake me up. Mom is not doing anything. Anything she doesn't want to do, she's not doing. And so it was just like, treat telling like a queen for 48 hours. And I, in my head, I was like, we got, so we had like mulch done and stuff like that for, like, the property.

But I didn't like get flowers. I didn't get a card. And I was like trying something new. And last night she was fired up on it. She was like, I really appreciate the way you did this Mother's Day. What was the trying something new? Like usually you just get like the cards and the flour and you do something. The kids make a crap.

which the kids did make a little something, but we just kind of just was like, hey, this weekend's about you. Whatever you want to do, what's what we're going to do? We had antique stores, got a nice little coffee in the morning, like just did whatever she wanted.

And then like Sunday night, her friend Natalie came over and she's like, yo, this was an awesome Mother's Day weekend. I appreciate the way you did it intentionally as opposed to just handing me whatever. Because something that's so easy to kind of like, hey, here's something.

Here's something, happy Mother's Day. Let's go back to our regular, you know, regular scheduled programming. But yeah, Taylin was, she was happy. And that's all it matters. Oh, absolutely.

I can't. I set the tone. I can't wait for Father's Day. Can't wait for Father's Day. What'd you do? Put Mother's Day together with Father's Day in mind. Yeah. That's a real thing, though.

It's a scoreboard thing. You kind of maneuver. Play the game a little bit. See what's up. Yeah. Yeah. What'd y'all do? Woke, we did a sleepover with Rue on Saturday.

Nice. Which was, you know, fun. She had, you know, she didn't want to go to bed the whole time. But I was giddy because it was kind of my first time doing a sleep over with Rue. Because she's done it with Charo before. Woke up. brought Rue out to kind of bring her out, bring her out of the room and surprise her,

got her flowers, better flowers than I have in the past. And Rue had a little craft thing made for. And then I took the kids, like I got Scotty, got the kids ready, took them to Benji's bagels to pick up Charles' favorite bagel

because she loves Benjys. No free shout-as to Benjys. What's Benjys? Where's Benjys at? It's over in, on the west side. Kind of where our old, we're old, the church warehouse was.

Yeah, you can see where they make it. Yeah. Okay, Yeah, like down that road on the right. Big bagel guy. Came back to where she's reading outside on the front porch. And then we went to Whole Foods to shop for, she loves doing picnics. So we got everything needed for a picnic.

Went out, did the whole picnic, had a good time for a couple hours out there. Put the kids down for a nap. She got up. She had like a sound bath. Have you ever heard of those? She had like a sound bath at like 4.30. So had a few hours to herself where I'm ripping with the kids. And then made her to where it's like a sound bath is essentially.

Eventually, yeah, like you take your own pillow, you got a blanket, and you're just sitting in a room with your sounds to where you meditate, fall asleep, take like a nap, I guess, whatever you want to do. And she came home. I had some steak and shrimp with some with a garlic cream sauce getting made. Oh, shit. We had steak and shrimp and asparagus. Had a nice little dinner. I put Scotty down, and Rue was adamant about, hey, mama putting me to bed. That's a selfish mindset.

Yeah. So Charle had to kind of put, I had to kind of put. had to kind of put Rue down and Scottie's been a little under the weather she's got like a little cold going on so we were kind of in it a little bit last night but overall very solid very good well executed Mother's Day

I brought Rue because you guys know the flowers got shipped to the shop last week so on Saturday I went to go pick them up because I didn't want to like put him in the truck so I used Charles Carr to come over and pick him up and I'm kind of telling Rue like obviously you know it's going to fall through with the three year old but I'm just telling Rue like hey

this is a secret this between you and dad you can't tell mom about the flowers when we go inside we don't tell her the flowers you can say she has a surprise but we don't tell her until tomorrow she's like one more sleep and then we tell her tomorrow i'm like you will go to bed tonight we'll have a sleep and then we'll surprise her tomorrow with the flowers so she comes in and she's kind of like oh mama got you a secret and then we're kind of you know playing it cool like hey play it cool and we're kind of sitting there on the couch and she's like one more sleep and then we show you

the flowers let's look around god damn it god and charles starts laughing but dude that's a good mother's day man the three-year-old being adamant about mom putting them down. There's no doubt my kids choose my wife over me. There's no doubt about it. But for whatever reason, it clicked this year. And I was like, guys, like, I know you want mom to put you down, but it's about mom. Like, wouldn't mom want to put us down on Mother's Day?

Great wrinkle. Great wrinkle win, nice job. However, no. Yeah. No, I'm going to do it. So they were all on board, which is nice. Hopefully they continue to do it. Hopefully they continue to handle business.

I had a good showing. What is your like Father's Day gift that you like that I like about Father's Day? You're like, hey, here's how I kind of like for the, because we've done the, that one year we had with you and Dennis and everybody when we went and just like had a, had a boys day. Oh yeah. Taylor's set up like a whole boys day. That was sick. But I feel like my kids like because Wynn's older and like the second just being more developed because they just watched their oldest, the oldest sibling, like they like are really intentional about like Mother's Day fathers. like celebrating that person.

So I kind of just want them to have fun with it. Like whatever you guys think. Because to me it's like, got to sleep in. Like let me sleep as long as I want. And then after that, it's like we can do whatever. It's as usual for me.

Yeah. Like I feel like she lets me sleep in. My wife will make me breakfast, which is really nice. Kids will, you know, give you cards. And then after that, by about lunch,

it's like, all right, I'm cooking mac and cheese from my girl. I got pizza for, you know, and then it's business as usual. She might let me sneak away. for a nap but I think it's all about expectations you know it's just just knowing what you're

getting yourself and if you think the whole day's and me about being pampered and whatnot it's like eh just just be real if you get to sleep in that's a win in my book yeah the way the the sleep in even a nap it's maybe a nap yeah let me go sneak up and take a little nap on the love sack i'm not a big nap guy you love the nap I'm not I get a little midday sleeping how long is your nap? how long is you nap? 45 minutes to an hour it's like when the kids go down like we were in a rhythm when we put Rood down for a nap on weekends where it's like I'd get me a little naping on the love sack I fall asleep for a good 45 minutes feel rejuvenated yeah nap all they're napping god so that's kind of my vibe see I can't do that if I go like take a nap at like two three

o'clock yeah I'm up I'm up like I can't fall asleep at night for me it's like we'll just grind through this midday sleepiness yeah what's your sleep habits like what time when time you go to sleep at night what time you wake up if it was my world I'm going to bed at 930 I'm more sleep I'm more like that 10, 10.30 intentionally winding everything down at 10 because my wife, she's a little night owl. I like to get up a little earlier.

So you fall asleep after 11. Usually it's 11 that the TV's going off, which sucks. Which sucks because I do really just want to like, hey, if we just go to sleep at 930, we wake up a little earlier, we get more out of the day. Yeah. You know, I'm all about that.

So can't fall. As soon as night falls, I see that sun's starting to set, my brain turns into all the shades. How do I? Yeah, I'm the same. How do I figure out a way to get everyone to sleep so I can also go to sleep? I'm kind of a nightmare at night, dude. See, mine is about getting the kids to sleep so I can have some me time, some us time between

the wife and I between me, even if it's just mindless, like, on my computer. Whatever it may be, but I feel like I put myself in a pickle, so to speak, that like I don't go to sleep until like midnight or something. Our kid's school starts like an hour early before everyone else. So I'm up at 6 a.m. And then I do that for about four or five days and then I just crash one day. Yeah, the crash is real too. I crashed like 9, 30, 10 o'clock, sleep into like eight the next day.

But then it powers me through the next four or five days. I know, I know it's not, you know, it's not great for longevity, but, you know, I'm just trying to get these kids right. It makes you look at like the Rock and like Kevin Hart, but they're like, how the fuck do they do that? Like they're sleeping four hours a night. They're optimal, man. Yeah. They're on that medicine 3.0. Medicine 3.0.

What's that? Peter Attia. Dr. Gabriel Lyon. It's referred to as like medicine 3.0. Oh, is it really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're on that. I'm about to be on it.

I'm diving in this week. What's this? So on the sleep thing, I can get good sleep and I'll still have like midday sleepiness. Yeah. Like it just, I don't know, for whatever reason. I just get like a midday crash. But the medicine 3.0 stuff is like preventative medicine versus reactionary where it's like you'll go to primary care or you'll go to a dock. By the time you go to a dock, you already got something going on.

But like all those full on 100 plus blood panels, there's a spot down in Franklin called Paradigm. No free shout out to the paradigm. but I'm diving in this week because as you know I've hurt my back so many different times and this last time I'm just I'm legitimately so pissed off that my back keeps getting re-injured and I'm at the point too where it's like I'm 35 like if I keep doing the same habits that I'm doing like I could have some actual problems by the time I'm 40 so it's like I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired so now I'm going to this spot I went to this PT shut out Griffin down at paradigm and they have this whole thing to where it's like they'll have like this medicine 3.0 type

of approach to do all these labs dexas scans like things to where it's like what your goals are and tailor like lifestyle towards those goals so that is what this week I'm diving into it I'm getting charl on board too really yeah yeah when you brought that to me last week it fires me up because we've been doing the gabriel line for a little bit but it's always zoom calls and then you have to do blood samples and then those take a couple weeks and then by that time it's like a month's past i'll get lazy yeah and you get you get you a little lazy with it, but having somewhere to go in town is the move. Yeah.

And they have the decks of scans. They have all that stuff. Apparently, like, we'll just fill me in on this a little bit. And I think I'm going to get the family on that too. I think it's a spot. I'm going to reach out soon because it is nice. Like, dude, being able to operate cognitively, energy, all that stuff. It's like, it's what you're seeking 24-7 when you start to get older.

Once 30 hits, back starts to hurt. Things just start to hurt more than ever. And I just don't understand it. Dude, I'll sneeze and I get nervous when I sneeze. So like right now, today's like the first day I'm coming off back spasms last week. Hey, I noticed that when you got here, you kept like doing something with your back. Like, I'm sitting in this chair at an angle because this is not a Herman Miller, Lumbar support chair.

Yeah. That I have at the house. But, uh, yeah. So no, we, my wife and I, uh, we took a little early mother's day, her birthday, my birthday vacation to Blackberry farm and, you know, in East Tennessee. And man, that drive, I was driving out there. I feel that my left extensor start burning in the, car. And you're just adjusting while you're driving. I'm sitting forward. So finally I let her drive.

I'm like completely flat. And the whole time I stave it off. Like I, you know, she wants to do pickleball. I rallied. Mountain biking. I rallied. Hiking. You know, let's go. It was. Yeah. And, and, and as soon as I get home, I'm like, all right, I dodged a bullet. And then that Monday just, just, just. And then I'm on the ground for two full days until the spasm gives out or gives up. And now I'm working on pushing that information out. So like right here, I'm just like, buddy. Yeah.

Yeah. I hear you. And it's crazy because I'm 38. You're younger than me. And I've had scans on my back and they're like, I remember the word was capacious. You have a capacious like a, you know, like spinal or whatever. Because I'm almost hoping they find something so we can surgically fix it because it happens about four times a year to where I'm just, my wife knows I'm out of commission.

But don't ask anything for me. You're looking in a mirror right now. But here's here's my promise. I'm excited to hear you talk about them. But here's where it gets me. It's like, it's going to take a commitment. It's good. And but the thing is like every time I think I want to make a commitment,

I'm going to do physical therapy. I'm going to get my core right. Then I go and I start feeling better. I go, ah, I just get it later. That is how everybody is my life, man. It's like the stretching thing. It's like, I'm going to stretch. As soon as I wake up in the morning, I'm going to stretch.

Then the day is like, hey, before I go to bed tonight, I'm going to stretch. And then you're laying a bed. You're like tomorrow we start. And it's just a vicious circle over and over again. But I feel like I'm not ready to make that commitment to a healthier lifestyle. Yeah. It gets where it happens again. I know.

Yeah. And then you start bringing up the surgery. And that's the one thing I want to just get far away from. Boy, yeah. Because it brings something back. Oh, you got some degeneration going on in your L4 and L5, like just that kind of stuff. Yeah, but everyone has like some sort of herniated disc like it's 13. Like locally, I haven't had any like back pain like you guys are dealing with,

but I got this little knee thing. But it's the spine is the most terrifying thing. And is that not, once you start. Once, what he says is that not the same conversation that I've kind of had with you on like it'll happen four or five times a year. Once a month, Will and I have a conversation about his back and what we both need to start doing more better. But it'll be something. I remember I was getting my shotgun out because it was like turkey season.

I went to go put it on the table and I was like, oh, I just threw it on the ground. Like I was like, well, I wasn't load or anything like that. That was just what I was doing. But it's the most, like I was getting a cutting board out one time and I'm, you know, like, you just throw everything down. It just grabs on you. But I can work at my property and lift something incredibly heavy and brace, you know, brace the core and whatnot. But it's always the little things like bending over to. to help your kid out of the bat,

whatever it may be, where it's, it's, you know, you feel like it shouldn't happen. And then of course, you're like, why, I'm, you know, I'm 38, like, this shouldn't be like this. And then I go back to my, and I'm like, I'm good, I gotta quit bitch in. But it's a bad cycle.

That's how it happens. It's a terrible, it's a nasty cycle. Like, you're talking about just the smallest things. I'll pick Roo up out of bed and it'll just fucking grab me. And then I drop, like, I'll drop Roo down. I mean, she's two, three, the guns, drop the babies. She's, oh, dad, that hurt his back.

and she back from surfing because when we were out in Hawaii we surfed and I had to end up stop surfing because I was like, hey, my back is an absolute hell from surfing. But you grind it out, wife wants to surf, grind it out, she wants to play tennis, grind out, and the whole entire next week back from Hawaii. I'm like, I'm in fucking hell right now. God, I don't envy that.

Because I'm younger than you know, I feel like I'm two years away from that happening. I just feel like we're all in different stages right now. Yeah, but it's, you know, when I was in Vegas and I got rolled out by the big Bertha, which I love doing. The big, oh, you did the, the body tempering units?

The body tempering. Yeah. And my man went over my low back and it just, it spasmed on me right there. And I'm kind of sitting there. It was before the very first practice that I got there, probably from flying and you do the workout. And I'm sitting there like, I cannot be hurt literally before I even go out to walk through.

So I'm doing all the band stuff to warm my glue stuff. Yeah. Through practice and come back after practice. And so I'm going to do like band distraction to help like decompress my spine. bro I got down to decompress my spine to where I get it like this I crawl out and then I was just like letting my back decompress and And when I go back in and it compresses back down I could not get up off the floor This is exactly. Hey so I used to have one of those inversion tables. Yeah, naturally you get on it and it hurts Where you like lay backwards and it just takes the pressure off your spine. So you think about it. You you lay in that and it hurts a little bit at first and you get there like oh, this is so good. I love it. And in the second you should

start your those muscles that are already in spasm, I start to contract you're oh and then you you get it's even worse. So you're on the ground. You can't even get off the ground. You have to slowly inch like army crawl your leg up to your side so that way you're back the muscles don't fire. Clay the strength coach is coming over. Hey, uh, will you need help to do so on? Oh no, I'm just I'm just working something out down here trying to just fake it like again I cannot be injured right now and end up inching my way up to standing breathing and getting in and I just fucking hobble back just skin in the car, go to the hotel, just being like, but since that moment, I feel like that area of my back has never been right.

When we, that was the time. When we wrestled in the pool, and I got me, but, bodyed me. But lifting you up and that activated it, I feel like that lower right side of my back has been in hell ever since 2020, 2020, 2021. It's not funny, but you have to laugh at it. I've had one back thing. We went to Arizona to play the Cardinals. Dude, we went to Arizona to play the Cardinals.

I stayed there the week before, a whole week, and then played San Francisco. And I put like 14, maybe 20 snaps of the game. And my back was in such a pretzel. I had to go back. And I was fucking on all these different, like muscle relaxers, somas, all these things. And so now I can't shit. I get up in the morning, like getting out of bed is just like the hardest thing ever, brushing your teeth. It just even a sneeze.

You feel a sneeze coming. You're like, if this comes, it might actually kill me. Oh, you guys could have saw me on the weight room floor. Like just trying to inch up and... Yeah, it's embarrassing. Hey, you need help doing anything over there? I'm just doing some floor work. Just doing some floor work.

But even we were in Green Bay, you were in hell, weren't you? Yeah, a little bit. All the traveling we did in the springtime. Traveling. It's like when we went to Nebraska and I'm getting stuff to calm it down anti-inflammatory-wise. And I just know in my head, this is going to make me feel good to where it's like I've gotten away with another one.

Yeah. And the next one pops up. So I'm just like, I'm battling with myself. When we were in Nebraska, the team was waiting on Will in the locker room. And Will's in the training room. In one of those closed doors, like, he's talking to the doctor right now. I have to go, Jack walks in. They're like, hey, the team's waiting on you guys.

They're like, oh, for real? So I'd knock on the door and open up. But hey, Will, they're waiting on you. And he's like, oh, really? Yeah. And so we go in there. And Will starts this speech with the entire team. And he goes, just got my back looked at.

It's not good. Speak starts. End up being like an incredible speech. He starts the whole thing like that. It was just, yeah, this whole trip. Literally, this is the end of the night at the draft. There's still photo. And I'm doing some, I'm doing Shurms like,

boy, is it, name age body count. And this is Will. Like, that's his. Oh, have you ever taken like water bottles and just put it under your lumbar just so when you're sitting like on a like on a plane or something just to give you just to no, but that's smart. I'll like roll up my hoodies and stuff and just put it back there. That's desperation mode right there.

Because you just know when you're on the plane, I'm going to be in hell. I had my like Yeti mug driving, big old thick one. I put it right here. I'm going to drive my wife. She's like, you're okay. I'm just like, maybe you should take over. There's only funny in hindsight. When you're going through it and then you have no, you're under, you're in so much pain

and so uncomfortable, everything pisses you off. You're just yelling at everybody. You're just miserable. And you're not telling your wife that, hey, like, yes, please for the love of God, switch me out driving, but you'll move enough to where you give it. Let's go. Yeah. All right.

Yeah. I mean, if you want to have. I'm playing pickleball with her. It's good. We are you at Blackberry Mountain or Blackberry Farms? Mountain. That's why we did all that. How was that?

Because I've been to farm, but I haven't been to the mountain. It's just different. It's it. Well, still, it's still an older demographic, but it's more like everybody's in like yoga pants and like active wear, whereas like the farm is more eating. And yeah. But I like the farm a little bit more just because, you know, with the mountain.

Yeah, it just, it depends. My wife says the farm, the spot. there is the best but the food at the mountain is so good everywhere it's really good but the mountain is so good they got an octopus up there at the at the fire tower it's really good some posts dude some octopuses some have you been a farm blackberry farm i have not that you need to take trial and the girls there dude because it is a good vibe the farm's awesome like everything's like farm to table there it used to be um that's awesome ruby was it ruby tuesdays yeah ruby Tuesdays the owner of that bought that land to do like business stuff there what's that r t lodge

or just what you're talking about blackberry farm oh r t lodge also the ruby t's farms and family owned a bunch of i was just in a knoxville wedding three weeks ago at the ruby tuesday's lodge which is also beautiful but continue yeah basically guys doing well yeah yeah they they like bought all that's yeah that's blackberry farm that's the barn right no that's a no that's the sorry that's the spa at blackberry farm. Yeah, the spa goes hard there. They can have a better weight room. They could definitely have a better way. We'll hit South Hall. Yes, everyone says South Hall is like the

closer Black Bear Farm. So you've been to South Hall too? I've been to South Hall. Yeah, that's apples and oranges though. Okay. Yeah. I'm saying, I'm just helping you out. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a good birthday weekend, Mother's Day weekend. Probably take a second loan out on your house type weekend. It's good. Yeah, yeah. Blackberry Farm's worth it.

You're dropping a bag to go there. Yeah. It is crazy. And then the barn I don't know how the mountain is But the barn is like a five star restaurant Where like chefs come from all over the world To like cook there for a season And then they leave

Jeez Yeah It's nice The only thing I don't like It's like you pay all this money And you can get as much food as you want You know you start with your appetizers You can get two entrees if you want

I want to try the scallops with my you know My lamb bowl and a lot You're gonna want two to do the stirpings Are very small And but then they charge you for the alcohol You know I get someone might take advantage If you're buying a bottle of wine But if I just want a beer or two, like, you're gonna charge me for that?

Right. Dude, leave a review. Hate them with the review. I'm not a Yelp Google review type of guy. You just feel like, you just scroll reviews and see Clay Matthews. I just feel like if it's all inclusive, make it all inclusive because I hate paying for something. You spend all this money and then you feel like you get nickel and dined, you know? Yeah, they're trying to, yeah.

It's just how I feel. It's just how I feel. It's like chartering a flight and then they go, hey, do you want to get food on there? I go, absolutely not. I got to draw the line somewhere. They're going to charge you $200 to put those sandwiches on the plane. I'm not going to eat them all. I feel you?

But I will pay X amount for the ride up there. Yeah. There is nothing better than private aviation. Nothing beats it. I've said this. Speaking of, we've got to get into it. Ultimate bro move.

Ultimate bro move by you. Because I had to fly back to Nashville from Green Bay. And for you to even send that text, hey, I got room if you want to jump on this plane. And I was trying to figure out any way to get on that plane for sure. But once I realized, it was going to, you were waiting for me. Just you'd be waiting for me. reaching out. That was huge. That's big. Anyway, onward, onward. Well, I knew you had to stay

though. Also, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had to get the link in the next morning. Yeah, but private aviation. Hey, let's, uh, this is this is a Super Bowl champion Clay Matthews. That's how I talk to. The beer in the room should be free. Yeah. Yeah, the aviation thing. Uncle, do you know I smell nickel? I forgot for a second. Could nickel? No. Actually, I might actually think it's me.

Oh, man. Yeah, the private aviation. We can pull off some trips like we did with Nebraska and Michigan last year. Would you, would you, okay, let's say you win the lottery. Would you rather have a yacht or a plane? A plane. It's not close. You can get anywhere in the world with that, yeah.

Yeah, the plane thing is people talk all the time like, one have you made it? Yeah. One of you made it. Well, listen, there's some people like, like, Shod Khan or whatever down in Jacksonville, You know, who have these these yachts that look remarkable, but you can only get so far. Right. You know what I mean? It's like with a plane.

Dude, I don't know if it's called window. I watch YouTube videos on like the latest golf streams, like the G700 or the G800. Yeah. I'm like, when I win the lottery. Right. We're getting to play. This is yours for only $98 million. You're like like, fuck.

How do I make $98 million to just spend on this fucking plane? How do I do that? Because it is the best, man. The first time I ever flew private, I was with Gabe Eikert and his wife and their family. both sides like one side the family started american fidelity insurance the other side of the family started loves gas stations so both families very well off i fly to l a l a commercial and then like hey we're going to fly from la to maui and i get on this plane and it is as big as this fucking warehouse the bathroom was as big as this bus and i thought this is the most incredible thing ever flying to a private

airport in maui or private fbo god i'm hammered i was hammered i threw up in the bathroom we go i looking up at the stars i don't even know what's going on wake up in the morning there's like this giant house and it's like in this bay during gray whale mating season and they're like splashing in the air as I'm sipping on a coffee and nursing a hangover and I thought this is this is it this is the life this is the life and this is the content your fans are going to love to watch yeah yeah then I flew back on southwest and still to this day yeah that shit is wild but yeah you can't beat that man can't beat aviation what else do we got boys we got a beau free shout out oh Oh, shout out Beauforty shout out.

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A little cheese. I have to get clustered with my sandwich. Are you eating the sandwich? Yeah, I'm eating it. Cajun-filet. Looks good. It looks fantastic, buddy. You guys got some Beauforty shoutouts?

All right, Mitch. My shoutout, Beauforty shout out goes to, when you go to a concert, like the light show that they put on. Garrett G. or G. Jack and I, we went to Rufus DeSole last Tuesday. And the light show that they had going on. Like I caught myself watching the lights more than I was like enjoying the music. and like they had like this smoke go off and then like these lasers go through it and it looked like the sky was like you could like touch it

like it was one of those things where you like I should be on drugs right now I was completely sober and I was like this would be this is so awesome but then also you didn't have one drink no training he's committed to his craft I guess so I guess he is committed to his craft but then also like another side shout out when you see your friends enjoying stuff

like me and like our crews were right near each other and G was standing right in front of me the entire time and G was just vibing the entire time like he's having the best time of his life right now and it was like I was happy seeing him happy just like enjoying you just like grooving and G can dance too so he was Oh shit okay G he was doing his thing

Let's fucking go That's just a flow, that's a flow Yeah it's just rhythm Yeah it's just rhythm Uh Shout out Bopi shout out to Staying on property at a travel wedding.

As a single man, you typically get in these flows where you get an Airbnb outside of said property for a venue because it's cheaper or it's whatever. In the last few weddings

that I've been traveling for, I've been staying on property and the convenience factor is amazing. And on top of it, it's usually a beautiful location to go celebrate love and be with your friends.

Our friends were in Miramar Beach and Destin where I was just at this weekend. We were staying closer towards like the Alabama State Line inside, but we were in this like 20-story hotel. We're on the ninth floor to have this beautiful view of the bay. Every time I've been in Destin, I'm very much used to being on the beach. So, it was a different Destin experience for me. But we had this beautiful view, a beautiful room, tons of good places to eat and hang out and drink around us. But yeah, when a wedding party

wants you to stay where the wedding is happening, it's usually for the right reason. And so I think I'm just growing up. And I'm about to just stay on property. every time I go to a wedding. Nice. Because they take care of you. And the wedding was six floors below where we were staying. And all of our friends had to drive 20 minutes. And I was staying with three single guys.

And it's like, hey, the singles are kind of up right now. Up. But yeah, shout out staying on property. Shut up, Beau, free shout out. Also, are we supposed to be doing something with our Cajun filet hack? You have a Cajun filet hack? Yeah, it was said earlier because I don't know. You don't want to go too outside the box on a Cajun Flea hack.

but if you throw honey on a Cajun filet biscuit, especially a hot Cajun filet biscuit, the sweetness of the honey paired with the heat level of the chicken is a really good combination. So I wouldn't necessarily call it a hack because it's been done, but we don't need to reinvent the wheel either.

Like, let's just stick to what we know. So shout out a little hustle. Yeah, a little honey. It's been done. Yeah. More than once on this bus. No need to change the wheel. Nope.

I know. My bow-free shout-out hack would be, I love honey mustard with my Cajun Filet biscuit. And another shout-out to Bo-Jangles, just because for me, Bo-Jangles, I think, immediately related to college football. Because South Carolina, there's a Bo-Jangles right next to the stadium. And every single game day morning, go to Bo-Jangles, get a Cajun-Fillet biscuit combo. The bow-rounds, dunk them in some honey mustard. And it's just college football is the best time of the year. And Bo Jengals makes me think of it.

Love that. Cox. And shout out Spencer Rattler. He's back. He's in. It's his time. Spencer Rattler season. Also shout out, Beauforte, shout out Vegas this weekend, Jackie.

Hit the cards hard. We're going to see what happens. Hit a little apex, a little UFC. Who knows? Just get after it for 48. Hit the sphere? I think the kids would love to see you that. I know I would.

Yeah. I'll tell you what. I'll get you a single ticket. I will. I know you will. I know that's... I swear. All right.

Fair enough. I pulled your leg enough, you're going, baby. Let's go. That's it. Vegas. Yeah. Anybody else? You should go with him.

Buddy, I'm not. Here's why. You could go for the first half. First song. Saturday night, I will be playing cards. And then as soon as I'm done playing cards, I'll be going to sleep because we have a 5 a.m. flight. And then the next Monday, Tuesday, we got a big couple of days here.

Not going to say what? That's true. We got a big couple of days that I need to be ready and heady for. What do we get? That's called growing up. I'll tell you after the show button, but... I say it when you. Oh, yeah.

That is big. Yeah. Monday and Tuesday. Yes, yes, yes. So I want to be available. I want to be available emotionally for that experience. So no, I won't be going on. We interrupt this episode to take you back to December of 2023.

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Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, JP, you think it's going to be a big year for Rettler? Yeah, dude. I mean, last year, you look at their roster. Obviously, there was a whole issue with their head coach, the coaching staff.

The roster was not a good roster. He did break Archie Manning's record, rookie record passing yards in the season. But no, I think it's Kellan Moore's down there. I think they'll be a great duo. And I believe, of course, I believe in Spencer Ruther because he's a Gamecock. But I just think he is, I mean, he's so talented. He was highly talented as a young kid. He played well in college.

And I think if you can just have a decent rock. is going to be good. Yeah, I don't know how the Saints will do. It feels like they just need to reset the entire thing. Right. Young QV. Yeah. Because who's the, who was their draft pick?

Tyler. Tyler Shug. Right? Shuck, right? Yeah. Tyler Shuck. And they have Jake Hainer as that as also in the room. Yeah.

I feel like the division's all Tampa this year. All Tampa. Yeah. But hopefully he takes a step. where they're like this is our guy for the future right he just can play for 10 15 years I know other quarterbacks shoulder are Sanders what Sherman were you seeing the Cleveland Browns bringing up a bunch of stats breaking up oh you got all the stats in the entire world the trolling by the Cleveland fan base Cleveland fan base is getting weird because they were

going after Mason Graham too showing him in some drills being like there's no way this is the fifth overall pick so they're trolling by talking about he has these record breaking numbers for a rookie minicamp and now it's obviously working everybody up because should There's Sanders has been such a talk since the whole draft. But you've got to respect. 28 for 30, 400 plus yards. I love this one because it's very obviously a 40-yard pass.

I read that last night. I'm like, this guy, it's not 81.5 y'all. Like, I'm now putting it together. Like, I'm not going to lie. I watch that video several times back. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that has a troll because that's insane. And then I'm like, wait, Baker Mayfield has the longest pass? I'm literally like racking my brain

because I'm like It was a nice pass I hope he does well That is gonna be that's gonna be news forever Oh bro There's whole entire office is all that be about Media coverage for that quarterback room Throughout all of training camp is gonna be insane

Were you surprised that he went in the fifth round? I was I think from a talent Standpoint he obviously is greater than Was it fifth? Yeah fifth rounder Um I don't know. I don't know how, you know, what happened in the meeting room.

You'll prepare, whatever it may be. But yes, I was, to answer your question, definitely surprised. I'm not, you know, I'm not one of those guys talking about collusion or anything like that. But I hope he does well. I've watched more Colorado ball than I have, like, you know, being a former USC Trojan, like I watched them and I'd watch Colorado because they were like must see TV. I wanted to see what Dion was doing, Shador, Travis and so you know I hope he does well I hope he does well yeah I feel like he's put it in the

best position to do well now because he's learned early in his career how not to handle things if some of these things are true like the way he was handling himself in the meeting room there's the photo that stream was head up of him the sideways the hat backwards and sideways while you're at the combine doing press like there's if you're NFL quarterback there's only 32 of you that start like there's a way you handle yourself the way you operate everything. And if you're a billion dollar corporation, you want to put your hands,

you know, you want to put everything on this guy. It's like you want him to represent your team in a certain way. So I hope he crushes. I'm kind of mixed because Dylan, was it Dylan Gabriel, right? Oregon,

like he, just being around him for the short amount of time I was for the Oregon Ohio State game, he was, he's a dude that seems like he's got a good head in the shoulders, works super hard. Dan Lanny had a lot of good things to say about him. So I hope they're both successful.

I don't know how that happens. But it'll be interesting to say the least. see how that all goes down they get old joe flacco you think they're both on the roster week one yeah oh yeah over both on last and who was and who was the other buddy got to sean watson well disown watson's not going anywhere yeah i'm talking so watson will be on i are and then you you got to get rid of either one but you just don't give up on rookies like that especially i think if they show enough promise you you might get rid of joe and just say screw it you could get a he's not a long run squad guy i know but you need you need to

Joe to be the the you know to to to be in that locker room the quarterback room to show these guys how to be a professional I don't disagree with you because you take Joe out of that locker room it'll be definitely it's weird it'll be Dylan Gabriel should do or picket they get cut like Joe's going to be on the ticket it would have probably be picket if you have both those young quarterback showing up but you're looking at you're looking at five quarterbacks here really it's four like Deshawn Watson like that's he's going to be on IR and there I feel like I feel like even with the Browns with the money. Yeah, he's going to be on the roster,

but he's not really in the room. And Mitch, to your point, like fifth round, you're a draft pick, but. Yeah, you'll probably be on the roster because he was a third rounder.

Yeah. And they went got him at third round. Yeah. You know, yes. My thing is, why would you waste a draft pick on them?

I feel like your, like your draft pick should, not should stay on the roster unless they have, like, a poor preseason. But like, if you cut a draft pick, you just wasted a pick.

Well, I don't think they're planning to cut him, That can happen, though. I know, but like, that just seems like in my head. That just seems like dumb for a franchise to waste a fifth, sixth, seventh round. They're probably not going into it thinking they're going to cut him. Well, they're also not thinking it's a waste too. Obviously, they were happy with their third round picking Gabriel.

But, you know, now you have somebody who, for whatever reason, has fallen to the fifth, you're like, all right, let's take a chance. Let's see if he can do it. If picket exceeds their expectations, that's where it's like you get a picket, Dylan, Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and maybe you try and get Shadour on the, practice squad if that's how we're to play out like again it's like they're all going they're all going to be in a spot to where they can win a job could you imagine shader gets cut the friends the media frenzy that'll happen or if he's a practice squad guy I don't think well it's going to be a media

frenzy no matter what I think no matter what I don't think they'll allow him to get cut just because of who he is and like I know the NFL doesn't really care about that but like I just bro they won't operate like that yeah they will they won't he's in the league now I think if you see if you see picket Shadur and Dylan all show promise where you're like, okay, one of these guys

could be our quarterback long term. There's a world you get rid of Flacco because you have all camp of Flacco, they learn from Flaco then but like he's a short term answer

and these are some long term guys so as a franchise you want to invest in the long term options. I mean, it sucks for Flacco because he has a dog still. But to Clay's point,

it's like you have somebody in there who would be a pro and teach them how to be a pro like I think Joe will be on the roster no matter what. Hey, Shirm, can you look up how many years

Flacco has been in the league? He came in 2008, I believe, right? Also, it looks like Adam Schaffner 10 minutes ago. Trey Hendrickson says Bengals have cut off contract talks. Well, hey, just real quick, why does it always seem like the Bengals going back to Andre Smith, maybe even before then, always seem to have an issue signing their players. Now there's a kid, a first round pick to the Bengals. Sitting out of rookie camp.

Who's sitting out of rookie camp. And listen, he has all the, he has every right to do it. But it's because his guarantee, let's just say guaranteed money, whatever it may be. that they're fighting over is less than the 2024 pick at the same slot at 24th pick. Like, why is it always an issue? Yeah. I don't, I mean.

Well, listen, I mean, that's, but I'm talking like this has been, this has been going on for some time now. I remember like when 2009 was Andre Smith from Alabama, you know, like Darius Hey, he was slotted somewhere. I don't know if he was asking for too much. I'd have to educate myself a little bit more.

If he was asking for what was appropriate. But now Hendrickson, making Jamar Chase, didn't they make him wait another? It just seems like there's always... Yeah, they've always kind of mess around with their players. Yeah. It seems like I don't know if I'm putting words where they shouldn't be, but I don't think they're a cash-heavy franchise.

Like, they're a cash-poor franchise, so they have to, like, manipulate and handle these things. And they've kind of run into a good problem to have where they have all these great players, and they've got to pay them relatively around the same time. The Trey Hendrickson thing, didn't he get paid already? He's gotten paid. I think he wants an extension.

But I feel like that's always been kind of a drama. That's always been kind of a beef between them because he's always wanted to, to kind of extend his contract. They've always kind of been in talks, out of talks, saying stuff in the media. The Bengals put themselves in a bad position waiting this long because you had

Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, all these other guys. I mean, if you got his team, Jamar Chase, like Max Crosby was the highest paid non-quarterback guy in NFL history and a week later he was like the fifth highest.

So the market's gone crazy. Now, T. Hendrickson's probably thinking, well, I'm up there with Max and Miles, I want to beat them. And so it's probably becomes a shit because. They paid Jamar Chase. They paid T. Higgins.

Yeah. Do they or their franchise? No, I'm pretty sure they paid. They did pay him. It's like the highest paid number two receiver in the league, I believe. But they've tried taking care of their guys on offense, and now it's come time for Trey. It's just like, you know how the business kind of gets in the way or priorities wherever

they're at because it's like Trey probably could command somewhere close to, you know, those guys are getting paid at the top. Obviously, their agent, the market's kind of working in that favor, but the Bengals might be strapped for cash in this particular incident. The rookie sitting out of rookie minicamp, though, I don't understand. Because my understanding of the new CBA is every pick is slotted with a 5% increase every single year. So there is nothing. You're negotiating over like minor details, smaller things.

Like the price kind of is what the price is. So if this got to sit out like, I don't know, you, you were the old CBA when you got drafted, but you went to rookie minicamp without being signed? Yes, that's correct. Yeah. I mean, you have the right to. So I don't know. I think it depends on the situation.

So I don't know what they're fighting over. I think it had something to do with guarantee, you know, some type of guarantee in there. But I definitely think as a rookie you want to put your best foot forward. But at the same token, that's, I mean, you just got to stand up for what you believe is right. You know, the agent, the advice there will be, don't, don't, don't, you don't risk injury when there's no. Right, 100%. Yeah, but you, but you are like, it's already there.

Like, I agree with you. My understanding of first round picks still, like when I got drafted, it was like, Taylor, this is how much you're going to make. It's guaranteed. It can't go away unless, like, I, you know, I, you know, I, you, you, you, get a DUI or something like that like something crazy I said but like if you get injured you're good through the four years I did I didn't sign till two days before camp started and that was the only time my agent was like hey you might have to like not going for the first day and just and then come in

the next day but it got it got done I but I did rookie minicamp but at OTAs I had like $12 my bank count I'm thinking of myself I can't wait for this fucking phone number he's got a look different remember Sean Merriman he said he held out of camp and then hey his rookie year yeah pretty sure and then he showed up like that's right like day one practice and went nuts and yeah that's what he talks about going after uh lorenzo neal the yeah yeah exactly so but yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense because they they're that's like a fragile it's such a unique franchise because borough's so good and their team is like super bowl caliber but there's always something up like they're always losing the games they shouldn't lose they're always fighting

to get in the playoffs the end not always like this happened last year but they are just a team that like it seems like some bullshits around them that they don't need. Well, I go back to like Carson, you know, when Carson was there in demanding a trade, you just always think there's a, yeah, it's. But they were like a franchise, yeah. Yeah, the franchise is, you know, with just a little instability, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Joe, too, it's like, bro, you've got the tools. Yeah. Like, you guys are a team in the AFC. Are a team. It's good. The kid shows up, too, every single day and he's in the jersey.

He just doesn't do the actual drill. But he's like there on the field. Yeah, that's his agent. Right, that's the agent, like do everything you can. It'll be fine. They'll figure it out. I mean, you know how it is it. It feels like the end of the world when you're not going through it.

But once he starts, if he starts making plays, it's, you know, he'll be all right. But I would, like, as a former player, I'd be like, I want to be out there. Right. I want to get to boys. I want to give off a good impression, first impression. You never held out? No, but my contract got signed. I think my rookie one, like, right before the first day.

You might have to hold out the first day. Got signed in my second one. five-year deal I played four years and we just pretty much told him we're not showing up until we get a new contract obviously nicer than that

and that's what was going to happen so we got signed in the offseason at some point and that was it yeah it was easy I mean there was no like it was going to happen I was playing well

I deserved it I was you know it was going to happen yeah so you you had full faith in that yes I had to hold out for a mandatory minicamp and I was stressed out about it I was so stressed because they were kind of starting the negotiations going on. They sent an offer.

You picked up your fifth year, right? They picked it my fifth year. And so I played my fourth year. So going into my, I believe going into my fifth year, they started the negotiations, but like the season ended. And obviously it's like all you're thinking about is like the second contract. You're like, bro. Yeah.

I've done it. Hayes in the barn. I've done X, Y, and Z. Like I know what I'm kind of worth. You're excited about it. And then February, nothing. March, nothing. April, you show for OTAs and you're like, all right.

I mean, let's see what happens. You kind of try to be in the best. possible like you got a little tan on you're in the gym a little extra long a couple days leading up and then they send like some offer that's like bullshit like it's still it was still a good like it's money but you're also thinking like you know what you're worth and I knew what I was like supposed to be getting and then like John Robithin's like you know we just sent you a big offer blah blah I'm like oh shit for real so I call my agent they're like this is a terrible offer this is awful blah blah so we kind go through it back and forth a little bit and then Tom Conn and my agent's like hey maybe you should think about

not going to mandatory minicam. And I was, like, stressed about it. And so I ended up not- That was Braves' first year. That was Braves first year. But Braves, like, he came up to me during OTAs, and he's like, hey, I know you guys are in negotiations. I want you to know that I'm not touching any of that.

Like, you want to talk about football. We talk about football. If you want to talk to me about contract, you go talk to John about that. Like, Raib cut it down the middle really quick to where he was totally not about it, which I actually appreciated him, but this is like 18 Braves.

Yeah. So, yeah, I held out for that mandatory. mini camp and I made that mistake of going on 104 5 the zone that first day and just kind of listening they're like this guy blah blah blah I'm thinking ah did I fuck up should I have not have done that and then like literally it was kind of the same thing as my rookie my rookie deal is John Roberts goes he's not going to be here we're not go negotiating with guys that aren't here so they cut it off so all of June and then half of July like I think it was like July like 15th until camps in like a week they called and then they got it done like yeah yeah I think you're doing like minor detail

So like this kid who's like sitting out my first day of camp, I was like, hey, just to protect myself, I'll be here, but I'm not going to do, I'll do drills. I'm not going to do any team stuff because the last thing I want to do is get hurt. I was like very transparent. Like if I get hurt, like, you guys understand. And John was like, yeah, we totally get it. So I kind of just like chilled that day, which was so nice. So nice that first day of camp, dudes are just dying.

I'm like, you just be right to get a little sip of water. And then I got done the next day. But it's so uncomfortable to see out. Yeah, it is. You feel like you're just letting everybody down. Oh, they're taking advantage. You know, because you've never been in a business. negotiation meeting before so you have no idea and you feel like everybody's looking at you

especially as a high draft pick you're like I need to be out there I need to show my worth and but you got you got to do it's best for you though yeah it's hard at that age though at you know 22 yeah it's interesting though because the NIL like everyone's got agents they've all had agents for three four years now so they kind of like understand the business a little bit more no I mean yeah but until you go through the experience you don't have any experience yeah so you can sit there and talk about it with your agent but once the chaos and the posturing and everything else starts, it's still brand new to you. And everybody's living in their own world.

It's like you're in your own movie. So the panic and anxiety or how are they seeing me? How are my teammates seeing me? How are the coaching staff seeing me by doing this? Because I'm listening to my agent. I feel like I'm second guessing my agent a little bit. Yeah. Because I want to be out there with the boys.

So you're kind of pressing him. He's pressing back. It's like you don't know until you actually go through. And that's the thing you brought up at the beginning too of like you're in your own story. Like no one actually gives a fuck what you're doing. Yeah. Everyone's so focused on their own OTAs. Their next contract.

They're making the team. team and they're like hey will is holding out it's like oh for real i hope he gets his money and they go back to whatever the fuck they're doing but you're just playing this game in your head of like oh fuck yeah dude did you uh with the draft this year did you feel any type of way with the packers taking a receiver for the first time in like 22 years that never really affected me in the simple sense that like we were always so close although see they hit on a bunch of second rounders uh randall kob devante adams jordy nelson i mean all those guys went on to will and are currently in like the Packers Hall of Fame like they're they hit on those but

they haven't we were so close for so long and then even after when I my last year was 18 they I think 1920 had two of those NFC championship games and you're sitting there going off we had just you know one more wide receiver one or wide receiver two to Devante um but no to me it meant nothing but I think it was the perfect pick for the crowd for that energy for yeah like to 100 it was electric by the way the draft I mean I I just assumed you'd have equal parts fan base of all, you know, 32 franchise, but it was like 95% Packers fans. There's a celebration for Green Bay, dude.

It was unbelievable. You think like on a game day there, there's 77,000 fans, 200,000 on like day one. I mean, it was awesome. It was electric. It was trying to tell everyone. I lost my voice. I'm like, it was fun. Way to good time.

Yeah. I can't believe how they were able to get everybody in there because it seemed like it was easy for everyone to move around. But it's just crazy how it's a small town. And there's just big historic stadium just sitting there. It was awesome to see. We got to, before we wrap up, the NFL schedules due release on May 14th, and Fandul has NFL futures, which can be parlayed. Do you have any early predictions for future parlayes?

On what? On the season? Yeah, like on the season. The schedule has not came out yet. It comes out. Well, we know the season opener, right? Dallas and the Eagles. Or we could bet the money line on that or?

Well, I'm thinking like, Who do you think wins that game? I think commanders take the NFC East. I think Philadelphia is still the big dog there. What about the hangover though? Man, they still got their saint. Well, no, did they lose a couple of their D-Lyman, right? I think so, yeah.

Free agency. Yeah, and they lost Kellermanagh, I mean, but there were some young. Yeah, they got some, they got some young. Yeah, they're just Philly. When they draft, they're just reloading to the roster. I mean, you think of how they won. I mean, Jalen Hurts played smart. Seekuan did his thing.

They had arguably the best O-line and D-line. I mean, you know. Yeah, they're going to be the favorite going. Well, that's what I think. I mean, yeah, what's his name? Jaden, Daniels was, he was fun to watch, but like he had to put the team on his back. I feel like with Philadelphia, they're more sustained. It's a full team.

They're going to be able to sustain success provided there's no, you know, hangover. But I feel like, you know, Hertz doesn't seem like a guy. He seems like he's got his head on straight, say, Kwant. You know, they seem like they got the right pieces in place to do it, to go after it again. It seems like for the last like 10 years. The Eagles have had great leader. ship and that it's been a great like they just been handling their their stuff well everywhere they go you got uh the eagles win in the east what other team do you have taken their division uh bills

let's talk about nfs okay you want a c uh yeah bills yeah i got to i got to take on the bills i think the bill i think this is the bill's year super bowl i think this is finally the year they get it done this is finally year josh allen gets over the hump what it who's digs with is Is he with? He's with the Patriots. Okay. Which I think the Patriots, let me see their overunders on wins this year. I think the Patriots can get a little spicy.

I think so too. I don't think they're winning the division, but I think. Do you think they'll get better because of talent acquisition or? I think both. I think Paul and A. They were with Brable. Yeah, they definitely have more talent. They've spent more in salary than they have, I think, since Tom was there early.

And Rabel, like he gets, he has the boys understand. Like, he's a great coach. seven and a half is a lot who's there is a quarterback uh buddy yeah which he played well yeah people are talking about how he is yeah who you think's gonna take the uh the nfc north i think detroit i'm interested to see how uh buddy from michigan does for uh j j j mccarthy minnesota yeah you know they've obviously got a great team of i kings uh but detroit is just they've got that it factor right now until someone

deep yeah but until someone you know de throws that man I mean the Packers have a sneaky roster Packers are nice

Packers are right there you know I think that'll be the best division Yeah I mean NFC North and the NFC East I love watching the AFC North though I feel like the AFC West is going to be fun this year too

with Bo Nix in a second year you got the Chargers, Harbaugh on his second year with Herbert. Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll with the Raiders. They're probably like, you know, they'll probably have the worst or the longest odds going into the win of the division. But I feel like between the Chiefs, Broncos and Chargers, like that's going to be a really fun division to watch.

Yeah. Yeah. Broncos would be cool. I just, I can see the Chargers winning that division. You see Harball on Rich Eisen talking about how he was having dreams like JP was having. He's had a dream. I woke up in the morning. I was like, I've got to get Joe.

and Herbert to the Hall of Fame. I've got to do it. He's the best, man. He's got it. He's got his guys. Yeah, let me get the Chargers on that future. Let me get the Chargers taking the AFC West. I'm jumping on that train with the Compton. I kind of want to jump on the Broncos.

Are you? I kind of like the Broncos. The biggest question mark for me is the AFC South. Like, yeah, buddy, the AFC South is. But it's like, yeah, Texans is your obvious choice to win that. division but then Jacksonville they're always like good but not good the Titans have like everything

but said out loud they're in a rebuild the Colts are kind of lost as a franchise right now Texans are winning that one I think it's gonna be closer than you think yeah yeah that does mean they're gonna lose that ain't Andy I can see the Titans making it it really just depends on Cam Ward man I can see the Titans

make it it depends on Cam Ward's a stud it seems like he you know I'll tell you what, he came out with the, what was the Savannah, Savannah bananas. There's a clip a couple months ago about him and Shadur Sander. Shudor Sanders wanted to make a song. And he goes, no, I do football. That's what I do.

I do football. And now it's coming out with the Savannah bananas. Like, let's keep the main thing, the main thing, right? Yeah, it was all the rookies in Nissan Stadium. I'm just saying, man. He has that viral clip that goes out about him being, hey, I'm a football player. When you look up Kim Ward, it's all the draft class. he's the leader of that class,

but he's just going to act like he's too good to be with the boys? Get in the film room, man. By the way. Why does it feel like you're going against Jack right now? Like Jack's pro-titans. No, he's going against the city. No, I'm not going against the city.

Taylor's address is. No, no, no, no. I love Nashville. I love the Titans. I do. It's a joke. Relax. I'm cool.

He wanted to make a song. He says he doesn't do anything but football, but now he's out the Savannah bananas. With his football team. Okay. Weird. in his football stadium. Weird take, bro.

Weird take. All right, boys. Onward. Hey, but a curse. What's the first name? Who? Javan curse. Did you see that video?

Yes. Oh my God. He's like 40-something, dude. He is still stacked. Stacked. Dude, like, I feel like Torel Owens is always the guy that gets resurfaced of how they're still jacked, which I don't know if y'all saw him racing Tyreek Hill.

I saw that, yeah. No. Dude, barely lost. to him. Is this a cat that kind of looks like Daryl O. John Curse. I know what I'm saying like. He's like, yeah.

It's like, okay. He's dead or no, but yeah, he's ripped. Who? T. Coarse. Oh, yeah. Your body fat percentage. Bro.

He is. He's got it. His rookie highlights are. Insane. He is. His movement. His bend was crazy. That deep.

For a while there was nice. Yeah. See you can pull that photo up, Shirm. Jvon Curse, Savannah bananas. he's on the he's on the uh the pitching mound and after this we'll we got to get into cam newton and clay third one over yeah yeah yeah you're right you're absolutely right what do you want to get into we'll talk about it yeah sorry i got no problem i did see a clip of clay too that i sent to will or that i sent to will and i just thought i was admiring clay's effort but kind of pulled off on a

play during the super bowl super bowl we won that game let's get over it all right man oh yeah oh yeah looks like how old is he probably like mid 40s yeah i mean good for him man he could be pushing 50 too yeah and the nickname are yeah a play of yours clay yeah um we always hear the breakdown from cam newton on the one where he's like you're like watch the wheel wrap watch the wheel around he's like oh you've been watching film us too watch this yeah like i like i I know people, people think like I should be upset. Well, but yeah, people think I should be upset about that. But so we always had signals in the, we go through a meeting and your D.Bs and linebackers would be tipped off to signals.

You know, like I'm sure they'd be watching A-Raw. We'd be watching cam. So one of his things was, I think when he went like, you know, Hulk Hogan Flex and they run the wheel route off that. So the bigger issue is how was me as a pass rusher, alert. the DBs and linebackers about, you know, route concepts. Okay, because watch, watch McAfree here, okay? He runs the angle route. Now, without talking with, without talking with Cam, or, you know, is he running that

wheel route right now, or does he break it off because Olson pins either Martinez, like you can see right there, they don't take it. And three looks like he's becoming the new number two. He cuts back in. He's wide-ass open. Like, so, yeah, it looks bad to me because I studied my play film. I knew the route that was coming as a. a pass rush. I'm not even coverage and he makes it happen. But to me, like, I'd love to have a

conversation with Cam be like, because he, you know, Cam hasn't said anything because he knew I was watching film. That's why he said, oh, you've been watching film. Like, watch this. Like, yeah, we have to. I don't know if they, if they switched it up that week, if he just, if CMC ran an option route off it. But what I'm most disappointed in is why I'm the one calling it. Do you know what I'm saying? That's what gets me fired up. It seems like either one would fired up because I'm a pass rusher, right? But I'm in meeting rooms, you know, being my little student of the game. Because there's times when I got to be in coverage and I go, oh, okay, hey, we got the,

we got the wheel route coming. Nobody else has clued into it. That's what gets me fired about the club. Like I, like, yeah, I can't made a great play. Like I, you know, let me give the guys flowers like we just talked about at my expense. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody wants to make it a big deal. Like, oh, I'm like, bro, I'm a pass rushing on this.

And in fact, I'm pissed because I went to do a spin move and I saw the guard lining me up, I tried to pull out of it and got, you know, thrown out the club right here. Nobody's upset about that, but he knew, yeah, he knew I was watching film. I'd love to chat with Cam about that. I got nothing. And you're on the other side of the field too. I was saying, so I went through it. Hey, watch this, I'll go I go for a spin move and I see the guard just like, oh,

nope. And then I just get thrown out. Like, damn. So not only that. And you're, you're right too, because either way, even if it was a wheel route, like, that would have still been open. That's what I'm saying. You guys are running into each other. So I'm on the side of the side of looking at, like, before I know it goes viral. and I'm like, you know, it's tough to be a field captain when you're, you know, you're on the first line of defense. That's why playing that inside spot was always so much fun because you can get guys moving.

You can talk about route concepts. I was, that's what I'm most disappointed in right there. Yeah. Yeah. They probably did. Honestly, they probably had such a 100% that they probably self-scouted and knew. But that's why I love to know too. Like if I ever see Cam, I want to holler at him and be like, yeah, hey, hey, hey, on this play.

Like, let me know. Was that the actual play? Did they, did you option off it? Did you know because I called it? You know, whatever it may be. But I knew that. Like, that's the type of stuff I studied. I'd rather people be like, Clay, how'd you know that route concept?

Yeah. Don't study my guy. Watch film. Hey, watch you. You probably tell you like, yeah, we were 100%. We knew we had to change something. And not that I would, I'd feel a little bit more like, all right, good. You know, like, I knew it.

I knew what was coming. You was on your shit, bro. Yeah. It was my boy. Is that one of those things after the game? You sit in a team meeting room. You stand below, hey, fellas. We got to be, we got to be more aware of this.

We were so young right there. I think we had like a rookie at safety and, you know, there's like, it's just, I forget what year that was like 17. You just, you know, I think we didn't win many games that year. It just, it was the beginning of the end, so to speak. Yeah. That's tough, man. Disappoint. The Bud Light question that we ask every guest.

You know how people would do anything for a Bud Light. What would you do anything for? Can't say family. I know. I heard LaFleur say family. I did what would I do anything for a private jet big turkey if you're a big turkey hunter yeah no I do enjoy turkey yeah sure I like I like dude every time I drive past you know on 65 I see those big billboards for the powerball in the mega millions like man so I love to I love to think I'm a dreamer you know

so I put myself out there yeah 300 400 500 million you know like what you would do with that and I play my wife just like laughs at me when I do this I'm like babe what would you What would you do? What would you do if you had this much money? So, yeah, I guess. Do anything to win the lottery? Well, I mean, that doesn't sound good when you say it like that. No, no, but I love.

Can you guys team me up when I'm coming on? What questions? I'm going to be asked too so I can have good answers. We can do a better job of that. We can do a better job. I mean, I'll give you my honest take on it. But like some of the stuff like, what is your, like, what is your, whatever you call it, your fix with your sandwiches.

Oh, yeah. We could have done a better job. That's for sure. That's for sure. We're learning. T and you are part of the family. Hey, you know what I do anything for is a good back right now. Is a healthy back?

You know, I'm 38. This back, I got to go. Yep, that L7 right there is just acting up. A nice back, you know, a younger back. Hey, we're going to get it right. We will. Some accountability buddy action. That's good.

One wants surgery, the other one's doing anything but something. No, no, I don't want surgery. I'm just saying, I've gotten so desperate that you almost hope that there's like, oh, you got something pushing on, you know, your nerve here. You just fix it real quick. You don't want it to be in the game where you have. have to kind of play the long game and have to stay disciplined and dive in. I recognize that that's it, but as I'm not ready to commit to that right now.

Okay. I'm not ready to commit to that. We'll work together. Let me know how goes. Let me know when you start going to four to three to two to one and then I'll buy in. Okay. All right. Let me ask you this, going back on the Powerball, if you did win.

And it's at $500 million. Not telling anybody. Not to anybody. What's the first purchase you're buying? I'd probably try and buy the land around. my current property. Try or just do? Do.

Yeah. It's just fucking happen. Make it happen. Yeah. Sorry. What do you want? This, K. Yeah.

No problem. Clay's seems like his investments are doing really well. Doing very well. How much have you spent in one visit for the lottery? Like, get in lottery.

$100. Actually, when I was in Green Bay. Not this last time, but I go in there, I just drop. Let me get 50 tickets. This was back in Green Bay. If it gets up to like a billion dollars,

like that's usually when I play. Anytime you see the B, dude, you guys jump in. It's fun. And then I sit there, I sit there and then I get no numbers. I'm never playing this again. I'm never, hey, I'm never doing rehab on my back again.

And then I get hurt, you know, it's the same. Yeah. You play somebody. Yeah. What if this hits? To win the lottery. Yeah. God.

That would be that's hundreds of millions just. In your pocket. Yeah. You want the lump sum or you want to do it monthly? Lump. Give me that lump. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, it's actually 60% text. Don't care. Don't care. I'll take 400 million. Yeah. Bink. Right there. Just imagine.

That one of my name. That's what I like doing. I like imagining. I hate all the people. Oh, you've already been blessed. Yeah. All right.

Okay. Yeah. Let me dream. All right. Let me just dream. Sorry. Sorry you were super talented and hard working. It all worked out for you.

But let me get some luck as well. Yeah. I got six bucks in my pocket. Yeah, I want three tickets. Random numbers. I'll share it with you up front, buddy. Make friends with all at the quick trip out there.

Yeah. You do got to break off whoever bought you those tickets. Of course. Give my 10 day. Well, I think they do. I think the, you know,

whomever sells it, they get a cut of it. Not of yours, but like, you know, the lottery. I think we need to look that up. We need to look that up. That's why gas stations get facelifts. Yeah. Yeah, all the really nice gas stations, like, they won. Yeah.

They won it all. There's always like an incentive. And then more people will go there to buy the ticket thinking there's a lucky ticket. And it's never in like a busy area. It's always like some rules. I know. You got to drive out in the middle of nowhere. Somewhere in the middle of Kansas.

That might be a blog for us, too. We just all drive out three hours of random spot and buy a $10,000 worth of lottery tickets. Could you imagine? Fuck. I'm buying a plane. That's the first thing I'm doing. I've thought about this. Go ahead.

I don't know if I'd buy it or just would you just, because think about it. You know, you're gonna spend 73 million, give or take. That's brand new. I'm gonna get one that's about five, six years old. Oh, really? Yeah, because the appreciation is crazy. Yeah, more, 30, 40? 35.

But why don't you just pocket that and then just have it on, like a golf stream, you know, whatever it is, and that way you just chartered at whatever. You don't have the upkeep pilots. I think there's something nice about having that, but are you going to use it as much as you think you are. If I'm still doing this. See, this is how deep I've dove into this. Yeah, but think about this.

You're sitting there. We're all hanging out in your backyard. You own all the land. And we're talking like, man, you know what? UFC's going down to Miami tonight. And it's like... Let me call my broker. No, let me call...

My pilot. Hey, get the jet ready. The boys are coming over right now. Because a broker, it's like there's a bunch of back and forth. They're running the numbers on you, all this stuff. You just call the guy. Hey, I'm letting you know. Yes, Mr. Matthews.

Yes, Mr. Matthews. And by the way, we want sandwiches and I'm not paying $200 for it. Thank you. That's right. Gosh, Nicola diving me. It's called the call pack. What happens here? Will?

I don't know. What do you buy in? Oh, with the money? Yeah. Oh, I'd want to get a jet. The jet's the first thing. You ain't going anywhere. What are you talking about?

Bus and would have a jet. Where would you go? Anywhere. Will just go to Bontair. Bontair, come back. y'all are tripping y'all are stuck to something that's not even there you say I don't go outside you say I don't travel

I hit the I hit the streets all the time we travel all the time we do travel all the time aren't you taking your first trip to Europe this year yeah your first trip how many times you've been to Europe couple times when I was 22 years old hey actually three three times

oh for real yeah you've been to Europe three times two more times than me yeah and mine was for football yeah yeah Do I? Is that 30A or like actually? No, I went to Munich, Germany, London, that doesn't count. And Italy for two weeks.

You've been to Europe one time on your own time. I've still went three times. He's crossed that pond. I've still hit the Hofbra house in Munich, Germany. I've still like enjoyed the culture. And complained about everything being small. No. When I was with the Rams, I was supposed to, but I was nursing a broken jaw.

So I missed that. No, I've been, I'm in Europe. She's a good old man. She's a good old boy. She hit it up, bro. I'd like to, but I got these kids, you know. They need to learn how to eat better so that way I can take them on memorabilifications. This is what I talk to them all the time about it.

Like we can't just have macaroni, pizza, French fries, and act like we're going to be okay for seven days. You know? We're not. You know, you can't have mom put you to bed every night. Got it. Yeah. We got to learn how to operate a little bit better. You know, brings it all back to the kids.

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