Bussin' With The Boys - Butch Spyridon

Episode Date: June 18, 2019

Nashville Pioneer and President and CEO of the Nashville Convention & Visitors Corporation, Butch Spyridon, joins the boys on the bus to tell the stories of pursuing the Oilers to move to Nashville..., pitching to the NFL to bring the draft to Nashville, and others that helped shape Nashville into the great city it is today. For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 A guy named Butch Spiridon. You might have heard that name. You might be thinking to yourself. I don't really know. What are they talking about? Just think of everything in Nashville that's ever happened since 1991. This man is the reason why it's happened. Very responsible for the Tennessee Titans coming to Nashville,
Starting point is 00:02:32 responsible for the predators coming, Har Rock Cafe, the Fourth of July parties, the New Year's Eve parties, Music City. Yeah, Music City. And most recently, the NFL draft. He was a major part of putting the draft into Nashville. So it's a very cool, very informative podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And to be honest with you, I've known Butch for about five years, going into our six year of knowing each other, He's an unbelievable person who works with honesty and integrity and has definitely turned this city into a city to a city. These guys made it special. And his trajectory is only going up. Dude, I was, I was skeptical at first. Not skeptical.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Like, I knew we'd get awesome insight. But the dude is a freaking boy, man. Like, he's cursing. He's raising some hell. Like, he's being himself with us. He's just handing out T-shirts. and butch slapping some fools, dude. That was hilarious when he brought that up.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But, man, it really is. It was an insightful podcast, man. Like a lot of cool shit you learn about. And he kept it, he kept going with some enthusiasm and had some fun with us. And, you know, I sat here and got a history lesson of Nashville and some hilarious stories about him butch slapping everybody around and make shit happen, dude. He butch slapped me once. Not proud of it, but I became a better man for it. So without further ado.
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Starting point is 00:06:13 for it yeah dude i can just just a big dude i don't know i figured it out i think it was last weekend i kind of went i was just think about the draft titan draft yeah it went you're still struggling with all right i love the simmons pick But a first round pick that can't play. Yeah. It's like scratch him head. And then just the other day I went. Did they think they could do that because they had picked up Cam and can.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He's only got one or two years left. So you got a placeholder to grab, which should have been a top 10 pick, top five. Yeah. If he's not going to play, why would you waste that? Except I don't know if that makes sense. That's a question. No, I definitely get what you're saying. Are we rolling right now?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Are we just chilling? All right. So this can maybe make it in the podcast. Who knows? So first of, I'm not a GM by any means. I'm not either. And I do think John Robinson, there's a method to everything that he does. Totally agree.
Starting point is 00:07:12 But I think that when you have a guy like Jeffrey Simmons who, what I've been told by experts, just from reading like everybody else, the guy was a surefire top five pick and gets hurt. And I don't know if there was an AC. I don't even know what he had. Torne ACL. So if he had a torn ACL, that ain't like the 90s or the 90s. even the early 2000s anymore, that's a, you come back in nine to ten months and you're solid. And I think, I think the first thing that our team does is base guys off character.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And I think the issues he had or whatever, and I don't know a lot about it, I know that he's overcome a quite a bit of things and people do make mistakes. And I think that John saw those things and saw this guy's kind of a rare talent probably and could be special. And in our defensive line, I mean, you brought Cam Wake in. You got Harold Landry, who's got a second year in that jump from one. to two is huge and two to three two to three is usually better and then you got droll casey de quaan jones signed a new contract austin johnson johnson there's a lot of guys that are
Starting point is 00:08:11 very good on that defensive line and so when you that's it kind of just like i feel like it's just kind of padding the stats you know and then to have a guy like a j brown who was i believe everybody was the first wide receiver off the board kind of guy for him to fall in the second i mean i think i think the titans had a great had a great start you were asking you were asking about cam yeah just him he's a stud man he's a stud man got a little bit of tread left so it buys you the year while you're getting Simmons
Starting point is 00:08:40 yeah absolutely that's kind of my and leadership qualities like the dynamic of a locker room matters tremendously and the Titans have a great locker room that was last year with the Titans was probably my favorite locker room I've been in when you lose guys like Brian Arakpo and Derek Morgan like veterans vets in the locker room
Starting point is 00:09:00 and at outside backer or pass rushers. You know, Cam comes in and can, he has those leadership qualities, he has those intangibles. He's been around the block. They definitely do their homework on guys. Like, Rabel's just not going to bring in any,
Starting point is 00:09:13 any slap dick that's, it's just, this is the most organization I've seen since I've, since I've been there. They do a good job communicating from the top down. They really do. John Robinson,
Starting point is 00:09:24 he's in every meeting. Yeah. Every squad meeting. Rable is always communicating vision. He's always preaching the vision, whether it's the three keys of the game, the three things we're going to get done during OTAs, three things in the all season that we need to improve on, three things in training camp.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He's constantly changing things, but at the same time, he's painting a clear vision, clear expectations of what's going to happen, which that is, you know, that's huge for a team for any organization. I mean, I'm sure you know, dealing with big time rooms that you've been in. If everybody doesn't buy you? Yeah. That's over. And you have to be clear in your expectations. Because even when shit hits the fan, you've got to fall on those fundamental values,
Starting point is 00:10:00 those fundamental things that you talk about and preach. The Titans do a really good job of that. They do a really good job. Yeah. Those guys, the consistency of leadership from the top bottom is really good. Like he said, Rayble comes in and our OTA is we have three or four words that are consistent day in and day out. And he quizzes guys day in and day out on everything. And so people, when you're in those meeting rooms, you're in those team meetings, man, that's the most stressful part of our day.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, your asshole is tight. You're waiting for Brable to say something. You're like, dude, just don't call him. You lock eyes with him, and you're like, fuck, it's on, dude. He's like, Taylor, what do you think? He'll go into whatever the question is. And you've got to be on, man, because he's got a time clock. And if you don't get that answer in four or five seconds, it's like, yeah, let me go ahead and answer it for you.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. Jayon, help him out. Yeah, and then Jayon's over there picking his nose. Or you know the answer and you just like, you're just frozen. He just freeze up. That's the game. Bray well, but intimidating as hell. He's just so intense.
Starting point is 00:10:59 He's, I think, Okay, okay. Yeah. You got a ball, you know. I think the thing about Vrable that's, that plays off that is, one, he played in the league for so long, so he's done it. But his confidence. He's got a lot of confidence the way he talks. The way he's, he's sure.
Starting point is 00:11:17 When he speaks, he's sure. There's no, there's no wavering or doubt. And the message he's trying to get across, whether that's a basic conversation or that's, you're talking about whatever is you and him, him would talk about. Yeah. Were they involved at all with the draft stuff? They helped us when we were raising money. Both Robinson and Brable showed up, came out. Steve Underwood, Burke Nihil on the administrator side, invaluable.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Even Amy. Amy Adams drunk. How cool is Amy? The best. She said she'd come on the bus. Yeah, she should have her. She said she'd bust with the boys. And your wife's a cool woman, too.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You got the hat right here, boys. And Mom ain't happy ain't nobody. That's right. That's the move. Yeah, Talon's car, she got that Tesla. And that thing, I didn't like them, but damn, that car is something else. Have you been doing those things before? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I'm thinking about one right now. It's the best vehicle. You go home, you plug it in, you go to bed, you wake up, you never have a touch a gas station ever again. I'll tell you, well, we had a little scare, though, that one night. Oh, yeah. He had, like, what was it? How many miles left? I had, like, 2% battery or something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Driving from here home. I was coming from here home, and I started cruising. over and I was like I'm not going to make it. And we barely made it to the house. He literally kicked out on me as soon as I got in the garage. Yeah, he calls me. He's like, hey, man, do you mind following me home? I don't know if I'm going to make it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yeah, let's go. We're on the highway, what, going like 20 miles an hour? Dude, I was going 25 miles on the highway. Everybody's on their horn. That's Nashville traffic anyway, man. It's Nashville traffic anyway. So much, what is your Chamber of Commerce? Like, is that, what is your title?
Starting point is 00:12:53 I'm the president and CEO of the Nashville Convention and Visitors Corporation. So we have a contract with the city to do the sales and marketing to bring events, conventions, leisure visitors. Anything the chamber doesn't do really. So we chased the draft, for example. We traced British air flying here started last year. You're talking about that's one day. We're going to get into that too. When it comes to the draft, what is that process like?
Starting point is 00:13:21 So does the NFL contact Nashville? Or when you just said we chase stuff, like you guys? like you guys go out on your side and try to get the draft to Nashville. Yes. That's how it happens. And is that stated with past events that have happened or how do you push? Let me back up. So kind of we used events to think that's how we can raise Nashville up.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So we were doing that pretty well but on a medium scale. And literally started looking around went, draft makes sense for this town. So let me let me separate there. What would qualify as a medium scale? Yeah, what's a medium scale? Because you've talked about the five-year, what was it, the five-year surge kind of of Nashville when you're building the music city. And then in 16, you're like quoted saying, you know, we're kind of at the, you know, we're kind of on the back end of that five-year plan. But then 2017 happens.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And then that's when was that five-year thing kind of a medium scale? Yeah. Yeah. NHL All-Star game would really be medium. Women's Final Four media didn't have the huge viewership or the huge payoff. But you build your track record. You build your experience. We produced all the Pred parties, the watch parties for the Preds during the Stanley Cup run.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Unbelievable. The downtown stuff. Yeah, NFL or NHL, the irony. I get a call from the Prits. Fire Marshal says our plaza is too crowded. The league won't let us have a quote, watch party, would you help? I go, well, I don't work for the damn NHL,
Starting point is 00:14:58 call it whatever the hell we want. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll go across the street. So we threw a party. And we go, all right, this work. I had a screen. So we would describe it as we fed the beast. Wasn't our idea, but we have enough sense to know what people like.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Beer, music, sports. So we always had music. We always had beer. And that's the crowd grew. We kept throwing up a screen. Then all the same we go, oh shit, this is big. So we moved in the Broadway. Then we collided with CMA Music Fest.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And now it's a police, public works, mayor's office, preads, CMA. We're all around the table going, this is about to blow up. NHL is going, we don't do watch parties. It hurts our viewership. That's at the beginning. At the end, they're going, we do it again. Come to do a concert? Can we televise this?
Starting point is 00:15:54 And then now they love watch parties. They call them watch parties. And Edmonton, Calgary, like cities calling. Think about Canadian city calling Redneck Nashville. I'm calling myself a Redneck Air, not Nashville. And what'd you do? How'd you do that? I go, we fed the beast.
Starting point is 00:16:16 We didn't do anything. We put it out there and let the public make it happen. And but roundabout story on game six of the Stanley Cup the next morning, I sent a picture to the NFL and said, we're just practicing for you. We're waiting on you. And the head guy. When you say you sent the NFL,
Starting point is 00:16:39 you send Roger Goodell that? Well, I said Peter O'Reilly, who was the senior VP, now as executive vice president, over club business and all events. So Super Bowl, Combine, Pro Bowl. That's a big job. Anything off the field, this guy's in charge. So I email him, I say him a picture, and he goes, we're watching.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, dude, that's awesome. Back in 2011, I called the Titans and said, let's go to New York. Huh? Let's go see the NFL. I think we should ask them to move the draft. So think about, I'm talking about eight years ago. And they want, we don't move the draft. You should?
Starting point is 00:17:20 It'd be big. Yeah. And, of course, they patted me on the head and set me on my way. All right, little butch. Yeah, go away. You were one of the first people to say, hey, this scene needs to take a tour. I could argue that we might have been the first to knock on their door and say, we want it. And then I laugh.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I go, when they decided they took, well, when they took it to Chicago, we were, I want to bid. So Peter O'Reilly actually goes, we're going to Chicago or L.A. We're not bidding. I go, well, I know. I want a bit. but I go can I send you a proposal and he goes we're going to go to Chicago or LA
Starting point is 00:17:57 I go use it against them I don't give a shit yeah let me put Nashville in front of you it's like okay I didn't put a lot of work into it but I sent him a proposal little blueprint of something just a quick little deal here think about us and then we wanted to get it before they formalized the process so I missed that
Starting point is 00:18:17 and that the RFP was a bitch as you come in the NFL I mean they're serious yeah um it was hard it was really hard dang so coming out of the draft okay so you got to draft to nashville and i've seen comparisons on the surface level of like you know in social media news about how well Nashville did compared to like arlington and the likes of oh they smacked them up and Nashville's been the best it was the best one so far they got butch slapped i'm sorry they got Bush slap, baby, hey. Put that on a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I almost spit up that water, man. Loving the confidence. Sorry, it's real. It got butch slat, baby. I don't normally do that, but I couldn't. I'll tell you, I'd say, that's what it is. You just swinging big right now, buddy.
Starting point is 00:19:02 You got that biggest balls in this bus, man. We bush-slapped them, my puppies. Bush-slopped them up, man. So you, did you expect it to be 500,000-plus people? No, I would tell you, we told the NFL and with police. We can do $100,000 a day. Easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So we thought $300,000, and we were prepared for $150,000 a day. So we, off the record with cops, we'll have $150,000. I said, at least Thursday night, probably with Tim McGraw on Friday night. But let's use $100, manage expectations, exceed. And then, yeah, since I've already said shit, I about shit myself Thursday night Dude how good of a feeling is that
Starting point is 00:19:49 It was a good shit Yeah It was a good shit That was a smooth wife It was a one way They didn't have to go back for seconds Friday morning He's thinking that morning shit
Starting point is 00:19:58 Like You gotta be sitting there Like I'm just a fucking stud I'm a fucking No I consider myself I'm a fucking wolf Really lucky No question
Starting point is 00:20:07 Great You know City's police City's public works The stuff we did The city did For the NFL They go
Starting point is 00:20:14 we've never had a partner like this and of course we brought well Tim brought himself to the table but we said we want music now so when you so fireworks two years ago or whatever a year before the draft started you called me and you wanted me to do the the video the video with kings of leon for the draft then I saw Tim McGraw and Eddie George do a do a similar video did Tim put himself on the table around that time or was he like because you're your buddies with him right I wasn't. I feel like I am now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Getting on the bus? The media got when that we were bidding. We were going to pay. We had been in the shortlist. And all of a sudden, Tim's manager emails me out of the blue and goes, hey, if you get this, Tim wants in. So I'm like, wait a minute. Tim wants in. So first I asked, could I use him to say he's on our host committee?
Starting point is 00:21:06 So when we went in to pitch, I went in and said, yeah, we got to. the mayor and the governor and we've got Amy and Steve Underwood, but I have Kirk Herb Street, Eddie George, and Tim McGrath. And the NFL one, we keep going. Taylor Juan is wrong. There's a room of 20 staffers, and they're going. I said, we don't have a host committee, but if we did, here's who would be on it. And they're looking at it.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Really? Yeah, I'm not making this up. Then when we knew we were going to get it, when I called You and the Kings, And I called Eddie and Tim and said, would you do the video? Because part of our stick was, we're going to have big names announcing this with you. We're going to have more people know about it.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And the NFL, I got a good follow up story on that. That might call. I didn't get the call. So Tim, after he does the video, goes, I want to play. And I'm like, okay. Yeah, that's okay. Anything else, Tim? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Do you want to play? Oh, you want to. Okay, go ahead. So then I had, you know, in my head, I go, I don't have a ton of money. Yeah. So the next day his agent calls me and says, Tim said he talked to you. He's serious. He wants to play.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Fine. Okay. So he wants a big play or a big pay? So if he needs a big payday, I'm probably not the guy. Yeah. But if he wants a big play, I'm all in. I'll take care of it. We said, what cover expenses?
Starting point is 00:22:36 And he wanted to play. He played for free. He deserved all the time. He played for free. Yep. And so did that. That's unbelievable. No other city is going to get an A-list act to come out.
Starting point is 00:22:47 No doubt. Do you think L.A. or something like that would be able to get a P-A-List guy? I think they'll have to pay. But the thing is, the thing that's interesting between there's New York, right, and there's L.A. And then to people in New York and L.A., that's it. Everything else is just the plane you have to take to get to the next spot. Right, right, right, right. But Nashville, the thing about Nashville that I think this city has that other cities don't have,
Starting point is 00:23:09 is a feeling of pride and family. I listen to podcasts all the time. I listen to people talking. They're like, man, get me the hell out of L.A. Or I wish I didn't have to be here, but I had to be here for my job. People come to Nashville, and it's like, you want to be here. And it's like, I just think we help each other. Yeah, and they really do.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's a foreign concept. Even to the NFL staffers, they were going, y'all are just different. I said, look, you know, we're not pushovers. We're not stupid. but we're going to partner with you. You're not just coming in and doing your event and leaving. We're going to be part of the event. And you start going, well, that fireworks.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You know, you need a house band. You need the part where I was going to say, you need to hype this thing up. So I said, we'll have 13, 14 artists post on social media. If you pick Nashville and you announce it, we'll get in. late one day they go we want this in writing i went what go we want you we want a letter it's just so business yeah i'm going i told you it's in our bid what do you know we'd like for you to spell it out so i go well damn that's a different animal if you're going to make me name everybody in a letter and put my signature on it i means i have to ask yeah and i so i woke up at
Starting point is 00:24:34 5 a.m. morning it, I mean, it woke me up. I'm going, shit, I don't have much time. I got it. Right. Make a decision. I'm going back to that conversation about a good shit. I'm on the commode, and I'm texting managers and agents going, will you do this?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Well, Keith Urban do. Well, Kings of Leon do. We're going to have a message. Would you post this? Would you announce it? And I got 15 yeses. That's awesome. That morning.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And I put it in the letter. I told the NFL you're pressing me off. How many people did you text? Like 15. No way. And then I got 18. When we did it, we had 18 artists post. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:25:16 90 million impressions. Right. And the NFL's going, we never had anything like this. You never been in Nashville. Nashville's always like the people here, they can't wait to have something to root for or get behind. It's like when the president. They're dying. They're like, they're flooding the streets of Broadway to watch.
Starting point is 00:25:34 these watch parties like the musician like the music industry like you just said you come in here and you're getting you're getting everybody everybody's on board dude yeah yeah to your point about new york everybody loves the town so everybody's pulling for the town i'm not asking for me there's no nothing in it for me right but i want hey would you help us announce hell yeah they jump all in uh same thing happened with british air Yeah. You know, British Air never, they said, one of the great comments that go, we're not a very cool airline. We think maybe Nashville could help us with that.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They really said that. They said that. I remember. The head sales guy from North America said that to me. I remember we were, and it was like March, it might have been either a few months or a year before. I don't know, but it was when it was when Megan Barry was the mayor. And it was the three of us at the Kings of Leon concert. you guys were talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Oh, yeah, the guy. I'm pretty sure it was there. Oh, yeah, he was there. Yeah. That's, I mean, you just, you're making this city run. Well, how did it, how did it all, like you, so you got here in 1991. Mm-hmm. And you, when you graduated from Vanderbilt.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah. But I left. You left. And then the job brought me back. So how did you get the job? I think because Vanderbilt was on my resume. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 We weren't much of a destination. It was all controlled by Opera Land. That's not a bad thing, but, so they wanted. And that's the amusement part, right? Opry land was a music park well there was a theme park there was a TV network a hotel the Opry so they just had that's kind of what their economy was and then and then back in the 90s and even like the 2000s Broadway was like a scummy kind of area Broadway started turning in late yeah it was yeah it was it wasn't great the boot barns it was a lot of no there was a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:27:27 going on yeah when you came there was no there's no Nissan Stadium there's no bridgestone arena There was none of that stuff. There was the Renaissance Hotel and the old convention center. Man, that Renaissance Hotel. I've been recruited, and I'm embarrassed today, no offense. Like, I recruited Hard Rock, but there were like less than 10 in the world. And I wrote the CEO a letter. I'm that guy that goes, why not?
Starting point is 00:27:54 We need something non-country. So I wrote the CEO of Hard Rock a letter and said, you should put one in Nashville. Everybody laughed. He wrote me back. He goes, I want to come. I want to come look. And we became great friends. And when he figured out what Nashville had, he goes, yeah, we should do that.
Starting point is 00:28:13 How did you sell a place like Nashville to him when it wasn't what Nashville is now? Because anybody, I could sell Nashville to anybody right now. Yeah, like, how do you actually get into the nuts and bolts of your hustle as far as making the city happen? Because you're known as, like, the guy to create the It City, the Music City. There's a lot of people involved. but you're obviously one of the headlines. Like, what is always your freaking hustle? I'm the crazy person that'll go where nobody else's want.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Nobody likes to fail. I don't like to fail. So they don't want to take chances. My boss, we were part of the Chamber of Commerce back then. And my boss goes, why are you going to write hard rock? I said, because all we got is country. We need something if we're going to promote music.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And just chase it and stay after it. Tell the truth. You know, be honest. And honest is different than tell the truth, I think. Yeah, maybe from your soul. Just hammered away. This guy, I could, Art Levitt was his name. And he said, I want to come in on the middle of the week when nothing's going on.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well, that was easy because nothing was ever going up. And we ran around. He didn't drink. I took him the Tutsis. Because he started talking about, yeah, we think we can do this. And we'll put, you know, Dolly Parton here, or we'll put Charlie Daniels. Oh, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I got Dolly and Charlie. I don't have Jimmy Hendricks and, you know, the Nashville side of Rock. So we went to Tootsie's and we're sitting down and I literally come with me. Three o'clock in the afternoon. I get a beer, he gets a Diet Coke. And all of a sudden he's looking around
Starting point is 00:29:51 and Tootsey's was just one level back then. Yeah. And he goes, we can't do this. This is real. That's it. Thank you. Don't do what we do. Do what you do.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Give me a stage, book live music that in country, and you'll do well. It's still one of the top performing hard rocks in their system. And when they opened, if you've ever been in one, and like I said, there weren't very many on the back of the menu, New York, London. They put Nashville on the back of every menu nationwide. And, of course, now there's too many of them.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Now it's not cool. Yeah. It's just a hard-r-hard. Hard Rock at a day. But when there were less than 10 in the world, it was a stamp that's a Nashville does music. Would you say that was like the start of how Nashville started to progress into what it is now? Yeah, you know, I never thought about it like that, but yeah. When did they come in?
Starting point is 00:30:48 94. I was three. I remember going to the Memphis one because Memphis has a hard rock. Yeah. Because the whole Elvis Presley themed stuff out of those really cool. I was like nine years old too. So I was right back when the hard rock was a little cooler than what it is now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It had an edge to it. The grand opening, Vince Gill, Melissa Etheridge, Don Henley, Timothy B. Schmidt. I mean, it was the most fun party. I've ever been to in this town. Really? To this day. To this day. No way.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It rocked. Of course, maybe I overserved myself. Maybe I. There weren't cell phones with cameras. In Nashville, man, overserving is a Saturday, man. That's how it works around here. This town, this town runs on alcohol. live music, man.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It's, but somehow, like, as crazy as it is on Broadway, it's, it's like, it's held together. Like,
Starting point is 00:31:39 it's like an understanding. Like, you can come and get crazy, have fun, walk through the streets all you want. Right. Go to Broadway. Go to Broadway.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Have a blast. But it's like, there's not, like, if you go to New Orleans, you go to Bourbon Street, like, when someone says, hey, you go to Burbank,
Starting point is 00:31:53 gotta watch, don't go past Dauphin Street. Chaos. Don't go, don't go two blocks this way. You go to Broadway. It's like, go have fun.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Because you, One of the most fun parts about Broadway is when you go down on Broadway, take a left on second. And then you got that Johnny Cash Museum. Where you go tour riding, there's like a little, like a little jazz bar hanging out or stuff like that. There's so much more to do.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Dude, that was on Broadway and I was at a laser tag place. Like, how the hell do you get a laser tag? That place is pretty cool. It's okay. You fit it in there, man. That's crazy how you just... And the other spots aren't far off, like Midtown.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah, Midtown's right up the street. German town. I mean, everything is like they called the 20-minute city, 15-minute city. You can get everywhere. And, dude. Well, think about... I may be off one, but during the three days of the drive, 15 arrests.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And one was, the dumb-ass Houston Texan, who was, I would say, out of our footprint. And so I don't count him. And another arrest happened outside. None of them were major. Yeah. So I think I got arrested three times since I've been here. I think I've been arrested three times since I've been here. I mean, they only have 15 during the draft.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's pretty unbelievable. Oh, Jews hit him with the fan. That damn thing. I think it's hilarious. So, all right. Lock it up, Jus. What about the 2000s? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Let's not have it. We're at 94 right now. So you get the hard rock. You get the hard rock to come in. And Planet Hollywood. And Planet Hollywood. But playing in Hollywood, we did not chase. They chased us.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. And we told them, unless you do something authentic, it's not going to work. Right. And they got mad at me, came and had a giant corporate meeting to chew me out because their business was dying. And I can remember y'all like this. I looked at them and said, your food sucks, your service sucks, and all your memorabilia is the photographs,
Starting point is 00:33:41 we called them son of duke. They were the same pictures in every. Yeah, zero originality. Yeah. So I go, what do you expect? Change that and you got a shot? Well, they didn't like my answer. Butch throws my shirt.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Of course. And it says, butch slapped. I said this whole thing throws them a shirt. Put that on. Put that on. Now get the hell out of my house. Yeah, so Planet Hollywood, we're done with that. You, so what was next?
Starting point is 00:34:06 So 94, you're getting close to that 99, 2000. Well, 96 or 7? 99. But we started the conversation in 96, I guess. So I got a random call from my buddy in Houston. This is one of those. This is part of story I normally leave out. I think said, would Nashville be interested in talking to an NFL team?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Wouldn't tell me who. I go, sure. He says, well, this team tried to reach out, and they talked to some people in Nashville, and they were told no. I go, well, that's bullshit. Right. I don't know who they talked to, but bullshit. Right. So for three or four months, back and forth, one day they called and go, I'm sure you figured out who we're talking to.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And I laughed. I go, no, I don't believe you. So I haven't given it one thought. Yeah. So literally, once every couple weeks on the phone for two, three months. And then they go, well, it's the oilers. I go, well, now I really don't believe you. So what do you want?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Well, they want to meet. And this is that where I'll say my radar is decent. We want to meet. We don't want any politicians. We don't want any media. We don't want to meet in Nashville. And we don't want to meet in Houston. All those things said, you're serious.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So I better get the right people together. So I got Mayor Bredesen at the time, his personal attorney. I knew I could count on him and quiet confidence and the head of the chamber. And I didn't even tell the guy, Bredison's attorney. I said, I need you go with me tomorrow. Think about what I'm saying. Really? Southwest? American.
Starting point is 00:35:47 American to Chicago. American to Chicago. Oh, you went to O'Hare? Yeah. And met in the Amos Club. And it was, you know, analog phones. So I called him and I'm like, shit, I don't know who's listening to this. So I'm not telling you what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I need you to come with me. Is it that close to the vest? Yes, nobody knew. Really? Like literally, I was the only person that knew. What year is this? I think it was 90, it had to be 93 years, 96. So 96, you're flying to Chicago here with the mayor's attorney.
Starting point is 00:36:25 to go meet with unidentified people about the possibility of the Houston Oilers who, in the 90s were a damn good football team. I don't remember. Honestly, I didn't watch a little football. They hit a little slump. The Astrodome was a dog. Yeah. So the mayor's attorney, Byron Trauger, good guy.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He goes. I said, I can't tell you. You just got to trust me. Think about that. Yeah. Delay your trip. He was leaving town fry. I said, I'll have you back.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You lie to him Why to him thinking maybe you won't have him back? Well, that goes back to trust and honesty. He was going with this guy. I got to get him back. And I did. Did you? But we get on the plane.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And he goes, where are we going? I go, we're going to O'Hare. We're going to meet with the oilers. And he almost got off the plane. He was like, what? You're wasting my damn time. He was pissed at me in a good way. But I'm going, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:24 We got, hold on one second. This is it, butch. He gets the experience the train. When you're on bussing with the boys, you get at least one of these. Every single time you're on the cast, baby. That's the offensive line of the tights right there. That's just a train moving down the tracks, baby. That that fourth quarter of Johnny Cash from that place.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah. I hear that train it coming. There it is. It's rolling around. Dude, that gets me so fired up. Half my team, it's like this is stupid. They don't like country music. But they don't know about the man in black, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:52 See, I would prefer God's going to cut you down with Johnny Cash. Oh, dude. Did you ever meet Johnny Cash? Yes. Oh, we'll talk about. I got to get to that in a little bit. It was a pretty cool moment. I bet.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I owe Marty Stewart for that. That is pretty damn. That is cool. So you fly to O'Hare, and so your boy here is like, I don't know, man. I'm not doing this. Yeah. And we left, and they went, they're playing us. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So I had to come back and convince. Why did he think that they were playing you? To get a better deal out of Houston. He said, they're not serious. I go, yeah, we should talk. And it was, you know, at that point, my career was way bigger than any influence I had. So I had to keep it alive. My main role was, don't walk away from this.
Starting point is 00:38:39 What do you lose? What? Yeah. So you go meet with Bud Adams. Right. What? As long as you're not spending any money, what difference does it make? So I convinced them to meet.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Then it took a life of itself. And that's where your concept of. not fearing failure. Yeah. That's what you're talking about. And that's, worst case, I'm going to make a friend
Starting point is 00:38:56 and I'm going to learn something. Yeah. That's kind of, if you're not getting in my wallet, then yeah, let's talk. No doubt. I think that's one thing
Starting point is 00:39:05 that's important for anybody who's listening to and they want to be successful is everybody has ideas and everything, has things they want to do, but everyone's afraid to fail. There's always that fear of,
Starting point is 00:39:14 well, what if it doesn't work out? No question, man. If it doesn't work out, then you lose nothing. And it doesn't matter what age you're at, if you decide to go do something go do it and you're dude everyone like
Starting point is 00:39:24 I've failed a hundred times I've given up sacks I've had shitty games I've gotten hurt I've done all those things You're holding penalties alone There's a perfect example of failure It wasn't as much holding as it was personal fouls But I killed some games
Starting point is 00:39:41 You kill some games And this day and age journalism all that everyone's a journalist Everyone's got Twitter And that you're going to get put To the cross dude You're going to get destroyed With those types of things
Starting point is 00:39:51 And that's in a smaller scale than the things that you're even doing. You're trying to take a franchise people, families, and move them not across the country, but states away and turn a city into something that was really, I don't know, and ruins. Like, it really wasn't very much. We were doing. With the same. Nashville, Nashville was, you know, Cooksville, you know. Cookville. Cookville.
Starting point is 00:40:16 It was Cave Creek, Arizona. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cape Creek is where I'm from. But there's one strip that goes down it. Everyone's pretty happy with what's going on. We're not building anything there. There's no large attractions coming to Cape Creek.
Starting point is 00:40:30 There's no heart. We ain't got none of that. But Taylor, we do have. A lot of heart, baby. Got a lot of the creekers out there. And yeah, you're talking about the scale he's on, but it's still the fundamental thoughts of just what's the worst that can happen. Failure is inevitable.
Starting point is 00:40:43 No question. Visual we use at my office. And it's 10 years now. hotels came to us and said do for and we'll get to do for new year's eve what you did for july 4th and i'm like what god no we're dead on new year's eve why don't you create something i go well i don't know anything about new year's eve july 4th already existed when we took it over we just made it better put it on steroids so today if i showed you the picture of the stage from the first New Year's Eve event.
Starting point is 00:41:19 You would die laughing. I would fire myself. See if you can find that picture. I may have it on my phone. I will look. We got this little monitor up here. It might be able to throw it up. But it's this little dinky stage.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I couldn't get anybody to play. I couldn't get the media to buy it. It's cold. Nobody will come. What are we doing? I go, what's cold in New York? But to your point about, both your points, about failure or trying, we went back then.
Starting point is 00:41:48 New York's the gold standard. We're not, I don't want to know what Atlanta does. I don't want to know what New Orleans does. New York is what we're going to chase. Last year, 200,000 people watching New Year's Eve, NBC and CNN here. It took 10 years, but we have a pretty credible event. We could have quit after you. I want 15,000 people.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Definitely, really. You're probably sitting there looking at it like, oh, man, this is embarrassing. Oh, my God. Definitely a failure looking back. In the first year, we dropped the guitar, and I got blank, it got stuck. It didn't really get stuck. The operator was drunk. Missed Q.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And it was midnight, and we told him, just stop. Yeah. And it got stuck the second year. So I ate Crow. I had to do the Mayo Copeland. You're standing up in front of five TV cameras, and people are just grilling you. I went, look, anybody wants their money back? I'll refund.
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's a free event. Yeah. That's a freebie. You know, nobody's more cumulative than I am. I have embarrassed myself, my family, our city. I get it, okay? Didn't do it on purpose, but we also didn't quit. Yeah, you faced the music, no pun intended.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Went back to the board, went back to the meeting, and you're still preaching the same gold standard regardless of where that was. And, you know, it works. Yeah. Stick with it and learn from your mistakes. When was that New Year's event? When was that New Year's Eve? the first one
Starting point is 00:43:18 what was this it would have been away away baby what that's that early huh I thought it would have been sooner than that yeah that's what I would have thought too by that time July 4th we've been
Starting point is 00:43:35 doing for 15 years but it was like I say it was going right it was you just made it a better it was small I called it Ampies quilting bee it was a very home spun cute 15 minute fireworks show one shell every 20 seconds yeah oh there's nothing now it's 65,000 shells over 30 yeah it's amazing it's awesome yeah what does that cost he said ooh can't talk about um the event itself
Starting point is 00:44:06 concert screens fireworks two million to put it on but we sell 20 thousand hotel rooms 20 million Yeah, yeah. 20 million is spent. And we get international PR out of it. Solid return on investment there. Talk about the adversity. Yeah, we got to, we're still on getting the Titans here. Yeah, I'm going to need a second episode.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm sorry. We'll keep you here all night. I mean, this is stuff that you don't want to get to hear this. That people just say, hey, oh, that's cool. Yeah. The draft's coming. Or, oh, oh, 4th of July is pretty cool there. you know, but they don't get to see like how this whole thing gets done.
Starting point is 00:44:47 No. And the behind the scenes stuff. The sausages. Yeah. The meat baby. The meat potatoes. That's one way to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Our boys here always send us notes. They said something about downtown tornadoes in the late 90s. What's that about? So I can tell you it was 98. Stadium was under construction. Yeah. A tornado blew through downtown. It was the same year the theme park closed and the 17 year cicadas came out.
Starting point is 00:45:14 So my, we got our asses kicked business wise, mainly because of the theme park. But our slogan was cicadas, tornadoes, and theme parks. Oh, my. And it did some serious damage. Yeah. Across the board. No doubt. Somebody died at Centennial Park, a tree.
Starting point is 00:45:38 My goodness. It was a pretty devastating outing. And, but it gave us a chance. to rebuild knocked over a crane in those where the stadium was being what's the process of coming back from something like that like when you go into those next days those next meetings those next like ideas that you have to controlling the PR spin and yeah the media runs wild like one of one of our employees family was in europe and in europe the arena had collapsed and so they were paying family was worried with staff over there so it was that you just get the
Starting point is 00:46:14 they run rampant with misinformation. Now you're trying to undo it. The flood would, if I get to that in 2010, was way worse than the tornado. But you just have to say, we're okay. You know, this and this is all right. Yeah, we have some damage. But we're going to build our way out of it.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Build your way out of it. Yeah, that's awesome, man. That's, late 90s is, I mean, good opportunity to build out of it. Yeah. But there's that part. art like the 2000s is when some stuff's coming together like you had the late 90s you bring the team in you're doing all these things the tornado hits you're kind of rebuilding was that 2000 stretch kind of like yeah the whole rebuilding stage we got our asses kicked we're coming out of it in 01 and 9-11 hit
Starting point is 00:47:01 right yes yeah my friends all said you should go ahead and leave change jobs no theme park operandi land was building hotels around the country so yeah more competition Um, and the word was nobody will travel for music. So why the hell are you going to stay? Go, I like a good fight. I want to stay. No doubt. Okay, butch?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Um, butch slap. Yeah. It worked. It was a gamble. No question. Then the recession hit this town like everybody, but on top of the recession. You're talking about 08? Yeah, we got the flood.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So you're trying to weather a significant recession and you get hit with a thousand, year flood. So you're just getting hit with everything. Like bring it. Yeah. But you know it's that don't back down. Stick to your guns. You got to work a little harder.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You know, we're like 500 of my peers around the world. I don't know of any that didn't lay people off during the recession. We didn't lay anybody off. We broke ground on the convention center and we actually added people. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:14 tightened our belts. We spent less, but we built up. So when the recession ended, we were stronger than anybody else. That's awesome. I've got a question. So,
Starting point is 00:48:25 when the floods hit in 2010, and when Nashville had flooded, I guess what was kind of your thought process of when the flood waters receded, like how you were going to go about things? Great question. Let me back up.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm a Buffett fan. Buffett was playing the arena that Saturday. Oh, wait, wait. We're not even talking Warren Buffett, sorry. We're talking about Jimmy Buffett. I thought we were going on. I'm a Warren Buffett painting. I can't speak to that.
Starting point is 00:48:56 The whole Buffett, Chinese Buffett, Warren Buffett, Jimmy Buffets. I'm a fan of all. I'm a fan of all. Oh, country Buffet. Yeah. It's raining like hell on Saturday. And the mayor calls. And he goes, are we okay for the concert?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Should we cancel? I go, well, let me call you back. So I checked around. People were downtown. Arena was staff. Hotels were full. Mayor, I think you create a bigger problem if you cancel. Because people are just going to be angry.
Starting point is 00:49:32 They're already drinking. Let's control. That's be a riot. So he said, can the police chief and I address the crowd? I go, well, you're the mayor. You do whatever how you want. Yeah. But I got it set up for.
Starting point is 00:49:44 for him they did that nobody was paying attention but the mayor it was the right thing to do right so they warned everybody when you go home tonight it's likely to be different well it was the people got home the next day all all hell broke close so to the point of that question first thing you go literally your your stomach's in your throat yeah and you're looking at these pictures and you're seeing trucks flip down the interstate or i watched a portable school building slide off an embankment onto the interstate. And it's like, we're in trouble. Like, this is not a drill.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Yeah, this is a real thing. I don't know if we're going to be all right, boys. So you start assessing, going back to that media thing, you make sure you know everything accurately. You know, what's damaged, what's closed, what's okay, you know, what resources do we have? Well, our office was without power for about a week. I'll make y'all laugh with that.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So first thing in our office, we rallied the troops, brought in a generator, and we're like, we're not going to be judged by what we do. We're going to be judged by what we don't do. So we flip the script on that. That doesn't matter what we do. People are going to be, why didn't you do that? So it's like we can't leave anything to chance. but we
Starting point is 00:51:15 everybody worked remote our PR person was stuck at her house she had power but she couldn't leave she was flooded so she was locked in so she's working remote we borrowed an office
Starting point is 00:51:30 from GAC, great American country at the time we put some people there we borrowed an office from the convention center but I first thing we do we go our computers are running but the room's getting really hot because we're out power. We got fixes. So I sent one guy out to buy dry ice and fans. I said, we're going to get a
Starting point is 00:51:56 generator. So I called Ferguson, kitchen bath lighting, they sell plumbing fiction. And I said, I need a GD extension card. Like I need a hundred and, it might be 180 feet. So our parking garage had power. There was an underground way to get to. And I finally had to put two electricians on the phone because I don't know what that I'm talking about. But I need power. So I ran this 160-foot
Starting point is 00:52:26 extension cord from our parking garage to our computer server room. And we're able to power fans. And then we put coolers of dry ice and opened up those bags. So it brought the temperature down to right below where the computers would shut off.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So we could function. So first thing was how do we communicate? Because if that goes, we're really screwed. Yeah. Holy shit. So yeah, my pride and joy
Starting point is 00:52:51 was thinking of dry ice and a homemade extension cord. Of all the things you've done. Just rigging it up. Yeah. You know, when you run something over 100 feet, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:01 power just diminishes. So the cable's got to be massive. But that's over my head. I don't speak electricity or engineering. I can just think of ideas and find the people to, to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And then I'll leave, finish with this story. I get a call from the Hilton. He goes, can you come down here? And they're flooded. And their arena's flooded. And the symphony's flooded. And the country music hall of fame is flooded. And there's a giant hole where the new convention center is.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And it's flooded. Every single one of those are pumping water. And the guy from the Hilton, his credit, goes, come here and take a look. And so I go down there with him. I think we went up on the roof. And you're watching everybody pump water into each other. And he goes, can you help? And I quickly realized what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Nobody's doing, he'll be doing this for the next six years. So we called the convention center and said, I need you to turn off your pumps. You have a three-story hole in the ground. And if we can send the water there, we got a shot. Of course, first thing there, a contractor goes, we're on a deadline. If we don't finish in three years, we got penalties.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I'll take care of that. I'll figure that out for you. I'm making that up. Yeah. But I'm going, no. And then they agree, and they turn their pumps off. So now we have a place to send water. I think it was down to that kind of minutiaeat thinking.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Right. It looked like the Keystone cops out there. Yeah. We're all pumping water. Each other and panicking. That's crazy. Look at it. That's Nissan Stadium.
Starting point is 00:54:42 right there. It's nuts. Dude, I never even... This is the actual first time I've ever heard of this. This was before you came here, I think. Yeah, it was 2010, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I wasn't here until 14. It was bad. It rained for, what, three days straight? Yeah, it was... And you got to be sitting there in the third day like, fuck, man, is this thing ever going to stop? Flooded the whole...
Starting point is 00:55:02 Flooded Opry Mills. Opera Mills was completely underwater. Opera Land Hotel had four feet of water in it. The Grand Royal Opry House had more than four feet of water. water in. Did you lose anything historical because of this? Of significant historical?
Starting point is 00:55:18 Some photographs and stuff like that, no buildings or anything. Nothing was unsalvageable. No. But it was crazy. And everybody was panicking. But we went to work. Carl Dean was mayor to his credit. He goes, I get a text from him two days in. He goes, what do we need to do to help your industry?
Starting point is 00:55:38 And our industry was dead. And I set in my list of about 10 things. I know he didn't think. Literally, we're texting. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do all of it.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay. And he did. No way. He was all over it. Sounds like Nashville's had a good string of mayors. And everybody came together. Everybody worked together. National strength is in that.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah. Good political leadership, good business leadership. You know, we need business leadership on traffic now. Yeah, we sure. Got to fix that traffic, man. Oh, my gosh. But the next year, so after the flood happens, you know, we start to recover from that. that's when you build um what is it the music city center it was under construction
Starting point is 00:56:18 it opened in 13 and and that was under scrutiny correct oh i got my ass kicked all over this county you want to do what it's a disaster nobody will national national is not a destination nobody will come conventions are dying and the city will have to bail this thing out let me describe Let me answer those. Nashville's not a destination. We've been named a top destination in the world for six years in a row by lonely planet, traveling leisure, Condé Nass. Oh, yeah, Nashville's a spot now. Big stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We're the seventh busiest convention destination in the U.S. There's over $100 million in reserve for the convention centers funding and all that development around. So you can't find the critics today. Yeah. But they kicked my ass for two solid years. You had like a five-year vision. Yeah. People talk about it from like what, from 2011 to 15 or 16?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah, here's what we're going to do. We, it's another great story I took Carl Dean. So it really wasn't approved yet. And I said, look, we can sell it ahead of time. We can sell it before it opens. We can get business. So we flew down to Orlando and pitched the Academy of General Dentistry. It was Nashville or Toronto.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Think about it. In 2010. Two trains. Two trains. One pod. Love it. Didn't tell the mayor who we were bidding against because I knew he wouldn't understand Toronto. It might scare him.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Right. So we went and Steve Turner, one of the best Nashvilleians, philanthropist. Just great guy. Developed the Gulch. Led that. He wanted to come. See? He's with us.
Starting point is 00:58:09 The Gulch was nothing before, right? He bought the land and turned that into something. That place is a destination spot. He says, we get on a plane to come back, he goes. Thanks for letting me come. It was really, and we booked this piece of business. Remember what I'm saying. I showed a picture of an aerial footprint with a white square where this building would be if it was approved.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And he goes, it was pretty cool watching y'all sell a building that doesn't exist. on land you don't own without a design. I mean, we didn't have a picture of what it might look like. We're down there selling. So the dentist booked us and I said, Mayor, give me the keys to the car.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Let me go sell this thing. Let me wheel and deal a little bit. I'm going to cut some. Let me butch slap these motherfuck us, man. Let me get them. A million room night. Hey, Dennis, don't this tea real quick. Give me the keys, baby.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Butch slap tea. Budge slap tea. Put this tea on. If y'all weren't crazy, I wouldn't talk about some of this stuff. But y'all are crazy. Somebody believes you. Oh, man, no one's going to believe it, but it's your words. Dude, but the five-year thing, that's kind of, I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:59:23 is that your medium-scale stuff that you refer to? Because obviously 17's been the biggest, biggest year with bringing some events and certain things here. 17 took it to another level. And because of the watch parties. Right. We entered a consciousness. globally
Starting point is 00:59:40 hockey in the south 50,000 people in the street watching TV yeah hockey in the south that whole concept in general you're just like yo like the Minnesota North Stars whatever they are
Starting point is 00:59:55 that's a hockey state they're trash they're bad and the predators we're badass they're badass I wish I could say we're they're badass man you're gonna be
Starting point is 01:00:06 hey I talked to Amy a little bit bit about, I was like, I told, we heard and I were talking a little bit, and we're talking about what the Predators do. And she's like, we need to get some of that stuff going, like the interaction, like, all that. It's, hockey culture in general is awesome. It's like way more close. And you're in an arena. Everyone's packed in together.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And there's smaller crowds, but it's way, it's amplified. If Titans only had 17,000 capacity, it would be a pretty rapid crowd. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, that's true, too. How much of it depends on the performance of these teams and the schools? I was at that first season in 1999. Yeah. It was nuts.
Starting point is 01:00:46 It was more fun. I went to every playoff game. I consumed more Jack and Coke than I knew it was humanly possible. Let's go. I had two cheers to join a game. I guess I could do it. I yelled it so you couldn't understand it. But when we had the ball, it was go, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Can I say that on this thing? Hell yeah. You can say it. I would say like, go my right. Let's go! And when we were on defense, that's how I am when they're on defense. Get that motherfucker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And so those are my tears. Hey, if there's two things you didn't know about football, it's get that motherfucker and it was a go motherfucker. Don't get tackled. Don't get tackled. Yeah. Bunchlapped that motherfuckus, man. Damn it, he was wide open.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And I also thought I was invisible. And so kind of a couple years into that, because it was a great I would be out. Somebody come and go, you sit in section 139, don't you? I'm like, oh, man. Starting to get IDed a little bit.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, yeah, and you, y'all have fun. Okay, I got to clean this. No more chance. No more chance for But I made sure no little, I didn't cuss in front of little kids. And I yelled it where, like my group, we all knew what our chair was, my chair was. But I wouldn't offend us because I believe in that.
Starting point is 01:02:06 You know, if kids are around, be respectful. Be respectful visiting fans. We want to kick your butt. We want to send you home loving us. Right. So, you know, broke and reasonably happy. And a little bit hungover. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, I'm kind of not like that at all, butch. I'll be honest. I like my fans out of hand. If I can get a streaker at every game, I'd be happy. Up, there goes another one. There goes. And I just think, like, Ohio State, we're school in America. Their fans are psychopaths.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I would think, I'm thinking of Wisconsin. I never played at Wisconsin. Oh, really? Never even played Wisconsin. Never even played them. Oh, that's weird. I missed one game in my career and it was against Wisconsin at home. They're fair to be bad.
Starting point is 01:02:52 J.J. Y.J. W. So, what's up? You don't like J.J. Y.J. Y's a phenomenal football player. I don't like him. But yeah, the fans, dude, if you have like a Michigan license plate at an Ohio State game, they'll tip your car over. It's like, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, that's one of their biggest rivalries of all time, though. It's like, they call it the game for a reason. But I kind of, like, as much as I hated it because I played for Michigan, I kind of dig that, like that around.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You got to watch out if you're going to play the Titans now. Yeah. Like, hey, it's a great city to go to, but don't be wearing different jerseys. And they're hostile as shit in that when you play there, like on the skins playing the Eagles, like the Eagles are insane. Eagles are bull and stuff? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm intimidated to go to Philly or Oakland.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah. Philly's awesome to play it. But it's because they hate you so much. Oakland gets serious now, too. There was a video last year, I think it was, or two years ago, Donald Penn, some guys trying to egg him on. Yeah, the target line. He was trying to egg him on to get him to hit him so that he would be able to sue or
Starting point is 01:03:51 whatever. And literally the guy had a video on Instagram saying, oh, I'm going to get Donald Penn to hit me and sue me. And then there's a video of him, him filming Donald Penn telling him he's trash, blah, and Donald Penn gets out of his rolls. Yeah, he did on some boss shit. And he started, like, getting after him. him, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:07 He wanted to put his paws on him. He walked away. Luckily, of course he did. I would want you too. Yeah, for sure. That's stuff, man. People talk all the time. The fan-based butch wants is like Nebraska.
Starting point is 01:04:18 They're like, guys who play there, they say it's weird. I mean, you play there. People say it's weird. You're standing in the tunnel. And fans, like, are trying to say, hey, good luck out there. Yeah, it's weird. Or hey, good game, guys. The thing is, but that's kind of like a mental thing.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Like, you start walking through. You're like, I'm going to fucking kill these guys. And there's, like, this little kid, like, go get him 77. I hope you stay. save i guess okay maybe i won't kill him but i'm gonna try to hurt them i don't know you're like trying to jogging out there yeah and i spent six years in baton rouge yeah baton roes is cool i went to a lot of night games at tiger man man i'll set you free the hell set you free i dated a girl i dated a girl from baton roos she went to ls u and i saw i was down there a whole bunch that
Starting point is 01:04:58 stadium is awesome it's loud it's a notch i never been to a game but like what i've heard it was scary it's incredible and i was a fan they made me and they have opened i was They have open container law there too. Like in Louisiana, you can go through a drive-thru and get, you can get liquor. A daquery. You just have a beer open? No, as long as that little paper of the straw is on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:19 If you get pulled over. Oh, you're good, baby. And the cops like, hey, hey, hey, what's in that? Oh, there's a piece of a straw? Yeah. It didn't hit it. Okay, it did you open it? No.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You promise? Okay, I get it because the pieces of the straw is there. Yeah. And that's, are you kidding me? A pour a little out right here so we can make this. I could just go on. Before they tightened up and they renovated. Obviously with security, but pre-I'll say 9-11,
Starting point is 01:05:46 I had a buddy that would like grill out, let's say the grilling stakes for a game at Tiger Stadium. Well, then he had 10 tickets, 13 people. So he would bring three extra stakes, hand them to the ticket usher, and all 13 would go in. So no tell him what, the real attendance number.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Fire marshal would be pissed. Oh yeah, but they just snuck people in all day long. And there were benches, bleachers. So you could cram in. Now it's more seating and tighter control, but they're crazy. Good crazy. Good crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I kind of dig that. I dig LSU. I think that's like, I never offered by any SEC schools. But if I could, oh yeah, here's the video of Donald Penn. See, this guy's filming him from behind. And Donald's in, he's in the car.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And I don't know if he had a good game or bad game. I'm assuming. if you have a good game and a guy's coming at you you're probably like that fucking stuff. So he might have to get up the sack of the song. The fan is giving putting his hat down like here we go. He's about to get a monster. You know, Donald Penn's a stud, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:49 He's been playing the league for a long time. He's been playing the league for a long time. I don't want you to hit me. I don't want either of you all to hit me. Yeah. He's doing it for the, he's doing it for some. He's trying to get some, he's trying to get that paper. There's not enough money.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You know, he's not enough money? I like myself. Yeah. Hey, you like the way your face looks. Yeah. Why don't I want to get smart? Some of these dudes out here, because Penta, I mean, if this thing loads well enough, we don't have good Wi-Fi on the busbook.
Starting point is 01:07:14 He comes out, man. He's a big dude. Looks like a bear dude. He's way bigger than me, man. He's got some power behind him, too. He would have killed this guy for sure. Yeah. I got a lot of respect for this guy, man.
Starting point is 01:07:24 He's at Tampa forever, right? It was like Tampa for 10 years. And then he was at the Raiders for like three or four. Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, he's, he played at Tampa for a little bit. But I will say, um, we got a lot. got to get back to that. Bringing the Titans over here.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You tried to whirlwind us. You're trying to take us not down the road. But I'll be, hold on. I got to be right back because I got to pee real bad. Go ahead. But you know, I'll talk. You don't have a bathroom on this point? No, we're working on it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I almost had a fireplace at one point. Hey, Butch, I think our listeners would probably be really mad if we didn't ask you the status on MLB and World Cup stuff to the inside track. Well, we can, it's, I would think I would be disappointed. I mean, you got such a good following for the sounds. It's like the city of Nashville would absolutely be obsessed with an MLB team. Like, is that even, is that a conversation even happening? The conversation is happening.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So there's a local group. This guy's been very public, John Lour. I think he's done a great job. He has Dave Stewart and Tony LaRouza and some other baseball people. Oh, love me, some of Tony Larnazza. Involved. And the commissioner, to, years ago throughout Nashville as a possible expansion city.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I think it's not think. It's a bit premature. Yeah. We have to take care of MLS first. The league is not ready to talk expansion, and they don't want to talk about moving until they deal with Oakland and Tampa Bay. They have two-week franchise. But it kind of goes back to your process of everything you've kind of done.
Starting point is 01:09:03 You put the bug in people's ears. Not you specifically. Obviously your team or the city of Nashville. The thing I think, and John Moore and I talked about it. Taylor's coming back in the old bus, boys. My puppies. That was quick, too. Does that mean something?
Starting point is 01:09:20 I got a, not the biggest piece, butch, but the whole is huge, dude. Like, it's just, it's like a, not the most impressive. If I took a small bucket and I just, you know, okay. Not the most impressive piece, but it performed. Yeah, I know Zach's doing the notes over here. Hey, Taylor, we're actually, he's catching us up on the, the whispers of an MLBT possibly expanding here in the, like, you know, future. It's kind of premature right now.
Starting point is 01:09:45 So what would happen to the sounds, though, if that would. The sounds would go away if that happened, right? If that happened, yeah. So would you use a sound stadium to bring an LLB team? No, and I'll never understand when we built it. We didn't build it to expand it. Oh, the sound state of grow? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 It's capped out. The thing that's key and here's, and John Lord and I talked about it, so he's not speaking out of school, but I'm also not up to speed as much as he is. I think these kinds of things, you've got to keep quiet. You've got to work it and work and work it before you talk about it. To maintain some credibility, to get your ducks in a row, to not let anybody. There's going to be other cities that want to him. You don't give anybody any advantage.
Starting point is 01:10:35 So I think we would be a legitimate contender. Expansions, according to the league, is at least five years away. Yeah. But we should be ready, too. I think the National's proven, you're in contention for whatever you want right now. I think the draft took us there. Nationals truly put themselves in a position where whatever we want, we could probably get first divs that because Nashville does it well. I mean, they're starting to prove that.
Starting point is 01:11:03 You're the leader in arms and you're, no, I think they've proved it with the draft. I think it's like, oh, they can handle themselves. They can get $500,000 and have no problem. Right. You said, well, we're capable. We can do $100,000, maybe $150,000 a day. And it's like, he was talking. It'll be important to take care of the MLS team that comes in because that'll also be a decent measuring stick, you know.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah, that's going to dictate World Cup to a degree. Yeah. It's going to dictate. Dude, that would be huge. I'm not even a soccer or World Cup. Me either. I know the, I know the world cup. why we're sitting here like excited but he says World Cup and you know everybody you know
Starting point is 01:11:36 all the soccer fans they just go nuts over that kind of yeah it would be draft like because they care as much about outside the stadium as they do that yeah they want to know that the city can put on an event because there will be people from all over the world whether they go to that game or whether their team's in it or they just want to be part of it yeah and party in the street well to your point about describing broadway yeah we can party in the street. You can party in the street, baby. Is there an open container law here? There's not open. You can't. If we
Starting point is 01:12:07 permit, you can't carry out of a building, but I can sell it in the street or whoever gets to permit. I got you. How many get out of jail free monopoly cards do you have in your pocket that maybe this guy could kill people. He'd be right. He knows where the bodies are.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Well, I'm saying for the boys, get a couple of, you know. Hey, if I'm ever in trouble, which is my body. main call. So you know, are we got to, I want you to tell us to. Okay, we'll tell on you.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah, because it's terrible, man, I sound like such an asshole. Nathan's a mutual friend from Kings of Leia. Yeah. And we're just getting to know each other
Starting point is 01:12:45 at Food and Wine Festival. Maybe you're one of it, so it's five years old. And we're drinking rosé out of a bottle. It's at the end of three days. You and Nathan? Yeah. Okay. We're at the event.
Starting point is 01:13:01 We're chugging wine out of the bottom. And he looks at me and he goes, if I ever get caught with a dead hooker in the trunk of my car, you're my first call. I'm just like, I don't know what to do with that. Yeah. I mean, thanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Don't call me. You know what you said? You know what you said, Nathan? Call me because they're about to get butch slapped. Yeah. Your hand of this t-shirt. Here, hand of this t-shirt. Here.
Starting point is 01:13:31 So he started that and then he goes, and then when you run for office, I'm, I'm going to run your campaign. I want to be involved. I'm going to run your campaign. But insanity to that point. Yeah. So when you talk about, I'm calling you if I'm in trouble. So I mentioned July 4th. When July 4th was starting to get big, he's a rookie.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Oh, I don't imagine what he's like. I look over and I see this, and I recognize him, but I see this giant human being, talking to the security guard and just kind of pointing a little bit. You know the worst part about this is is like two years later Butch came and spoke to the team and told them this story.
Starting point is 01:14:11 And I actually never told you they did that but Jack Conklin was like, yeah, I heard a story about you the other day. I did. I spoke to the rookies. Yeah, you spoke to the rookies. Don't be that guy. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Dude, it was bad. So you're wearing this guy out and he's saying, I'm supposed to be on the list, I'm supposed to be backstage. And I'm watching them. I go, all right, listen. I go, help me out here. So he's saying, I'm supposed to be on the list.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I go, well, it's only one list. It's mine. Butch lapped. Handed to me a T-shirt. Hey, Taylor, hey, take this T-shirt. Security guards, this small guy. And I go, were you rude to him? In hindsight, I'm going, you're a dumbass.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Don't go across him. He's been drinking, maybe. I don't know. Definitely. Yeah. He's like, oh, no, you might have been. So I put his, his future at that point, the future of the night, enhanced security guard.
Starting point is 01:15:10 He said, no, no, I was polite. So I called the guy over. I said, go ahead. How do you treat you? Because I'm a big stickler. You rude to security, rude to the people making hourly wage, I'm a dick. Oh, so you were first of many of the thought is this asshole.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah, what are you doing to this poor guy? And the guy said, no, he was really polite. I was like, okay. So then we actually walked backstage. There wasn't anything going on. And then I tried to hook him up with Sports Illustrated swimsuit. We had all the models in town for an event. And that's when we started getting to know each other better.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And he was like, I'm with the Titans. I know who you are. Quit doing this. Your ass is going to be in more trouble telling people who you are. Oh, dude. Since that day, since I don't know, I won't tell people, I do not Everyone, it's clear
Starting point is 01:16:02 I do not do that anymore I agree I just got to Nashville I thought I was a big swinging dick and I realized my peeper just rest gently on top of my sack dude I was not
Starting point is 01:16:13 I am not that guy anymore I guess it was back but I really don't remember that night fully so I didn't get that but I remember it was I was on like was it old Hickory
Starting point is 01:16:26 and I was walking into Zoe's kitchen do you remember this walking in his always kitchen like a month like a month oh yeah i just got out of camp it was like in brittwood and you're like hey i'm like what's this guy dude yeah yeah yeah because you don't remember me do you i was like no i i don't you were sitting with your now wife yeah no no no no it wasn't my no what it was oh shit but eating but oh i thought it was yeah it was my rookie year so i didn't even know taylin then i was named somebody else but it's okay oh sorry no no no
Starting point is 01:16:59 like different girlfriend swimsuit model love you yeah a couple of swimsuit models tied it up and so I was sitting with a lady and you're like you don't remember me and I was like no I don't oh god
Starting point is 01:17:12 what's gonna and you're like I'm Butch and you uh you stormed my party on 4th of July and I was just like oh my god these three swimsuit models I'm with are going to be so embarrassed for me my name's Butch and that's my t-shirt you're wearing Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:30 That was probably one of the most embarrassed I've ever been You were with your wife Yeah And we sat down and talked And since then things have been good Things have been good Dude all And all the security guys
Starting point is 01:17:42 I didn't say was you were being an asshole I know And if you did If you did And Bush would have liked you And I probably I'd be screwed in this town too I threw a put
Starting point is 01:17:50 I didn't throw a put This out But I watched one The guy that had the meltdown I don't know. Or Kelly? No, local publicist. Oh.
Starting point is 01:17:58 He just got accused of all kinds of stuff. Well, he was berating a cop. Actually, the year of the Kingsley, I played New Year's Eve. And I... No way. Grab him and... Uh-uh. I'm the only person you can talk to it like that.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Have at it. I don't give a shit what you say to me. Yeah. Cuss me, yell at me. Don't hit me. Yeah, don't hit me. Got this pretty face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:20 But you're not going to talk to the police that are working. ass off or security or just anybody that's yeah you know literally helping make the event happen yeah respect is definitely a thing i'll follow my sword for the people that are working their butts off that's awesome respect is definitely a thing that i've had to learn over time and that was to what 2013 or 14 no that's yeah that was july 2014 yeah you're welcome to come to july 4th this year I don't know if I should even come, man. I don't know if I should. I'll bring you around.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I get your credential. I just want a butch slap t-shirt, man. Dude, I want a butch-slapped t-shirt, man. Dude, I want a bitch-slapped, dude. I want a past tense one. Like, it's already happened. Oh, dude. I mean, I mean, yeah, it looked like an asshole that night, but it definitely got us here.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Got us here. Got us here. I'm a fan. I'm a fan as well. I appreciate you helping me out with a whole bunch of stuff, too. Butch is the man. Dude, bitch. I'm learning a lot about you.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And I love it. I love this. This is our first time meeting. You're buzzing with the boys, man. This is an honor for you. Of all the things you've ever done, this has got to be the top five. This is up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:29 I don't get to get on a school bus with neon inside. There you go. Customs of ad neons. Yeah. In the day, you know, when my name's out there. You need a beer sponsor. We need a beer sponsor? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I do want. Yeah. Matter of fact, we have old, we have old Budweiser sitting on our thing, but they're not a sponsor. I know. They offered to Budweiser offered. When? It was the local distributor. Ajax Turner.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah, Ajax. Ajax Turner offered. And then they said the man sitting on the couch right now. Yeah. They said any live events. I told them. Yeah, right. We got to buy a tow truck.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Okay, keep it in like Butch taught us. Keep things tight and inner circle. Yeah. Don't talk about it. Yeah. Also, those. There's this thing. Not yet.
Starting point is 01:20:19 No. It can get towed like no one's business, I bet, though. Yeah, for sure. Our goal is to get it moving because we think it would be awesome. Like, we think of going because Dale Earnhardt's a theme on here. So say we road trip to North Carolina where he lives and do a bus with the boys there, you know, road trip to all these different events. And then also you can think of stuff.
Starting point is 01:20:38 We can think of constant things, dude, if this thing gets mobile. We bring you down for July 4th. It's what I'm saying busing with the boys, dude? If we get July 4, if we get the bus, if we get it towed over there, you let us hang out. I'll find you. If we figure something out, I'd cancel my Missouri plans. Yeah, I don't want a spot. I want to be on Broadway first.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I want to be in front of the stage. Yeah, I get. I know what you want. And just hanging butch-slap T's across the street. That's definitely going to be a thing. I shouldn't have said it. That's the coolest thing anyone's ever said on this earth. Jesus didn't say anything as cool as that.
Starting point is 01:21:15 That was wicked, man. That was rad. Quick question. for me. I'm sorry. All right, Zach's podcast. Go ahead. Since we're on a NASCAR bus,
Starting point is 01:21:25 we're on kind of a NASCAR theme bus. They are. Hey, Zach is a big NASCAR fan. Yeah, if you didn't listen to episode 0-00, big NASCAR fan. But what, there's been some talk about
Starting point is 01:21:37 NASCAR coming to Nashville. There's been some pros and cons to it. I know Nashville speed, there's some rough spots with that, but this might not even make the podcast, but kind of for what I want to know, like what do you think of that um i think nascar would be stupid not to bring a race back to this market i think they abandoned their core audience in the south as they started doing
Starting point is 01:22:06 Vegas and dallas and wherever right to their credit i think they recognize that so first thing they're going to do is bring their awards week here in December uh we had to have have it for two years going back to that chasing events yeah they're going to bring cars they're going to create a fan facing event um which will help us build the momentum but at the end of the day there's an issue over how close one of the buildings being developed at the fairgrounds is to the speedway if they can get it moved yeah a little bit then i think a race is imminent if they can't get it then there's concern that the building's too close to the track. And I don't understand how.
Starting point is 01:22:51 If the building's not on the track, how can it be too close to the track? Right. So I'm stupid in that regard. But I do understand that that is the biggest issue right now. Yeah. Man, that would be crazy. In Bristol. NASCAR's folks on Bristol.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Why wouldn't you bring the redneck sport to the redneck city? Butch's words, not ours. Well, to his credit, he said he's a redneck. You ain't no redneck, man. Look at you just, at first. off it's hot on this bus how are you not sweating he might be in a low back i'm thinking about it you're thinking about it's not thinking about sweating man that'd be awesome and you said December so that like first one in December you're actually I don't know when this will air so I could say they're coming
Starting point is 01:23:31 tomorrow to work on planning their awards week but when this airs I might have said they were just here yeah so they're either here or they're coming tomorrow yeah they were they're just here or they're coming tomorrow that brings an event in December too like you're just in Nashville you think of all these things that going throughout the year in Nashville. And it kind of gives, you know, insight on what the next, what the future looks like for the city. Because it's like, take for instance, I'm in an Uber ride and you're sitting here talking, yeah, you know, people to kind of fill me in on the market, the industries and things because it was my first year here. And guys are like, yeah, the city's just exploded the last five years. And we don't know if we're in the, we don't know for in the seventh inning, the third inning, the ninth inning if we're on the back end.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Like that you bringing up NASCAR in a December thing just makes me think like, you know, the future is bright for the city of Nashville. You know, I think we're in charge of that. We, Nashville. Yeah. I predicted a slowdown or a flattening for the last three years. In that year? You're saying like, okay, we need to be prepared. We're going to level off.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Right. We're not going to dip. But then 2017 happens. My industry, so the hospitality industry, we are. 100 out of 103 months have been the best prospective month in the history of the city. So, best January ever, best February ever. We've done that 100 out of 103 times. Wow.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That's eight and a half years. That's a little years. Yeah. Yeah. Take my shoes off. Yeah, I got it said eight and a half. It's insane. So we're the, and we're the top performing hotel market in the country over the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:25:12 So we keep raising the bar And my board I answered to a board of directors They just call me a sandbagger I said can I just be wrong You know quit sandbagging Yeah I'm wrong it's okay Well you drive into the city
Starting point is 01:25:27 And all you see is cranes in the city Like oh you just see The stuff getting built up But people like Taylor was talking about earlier The traffic The highway systems That's definitely That's gonna slow the growth of the city down
Starting point is 01:25:38 For sure Pains or But they're better than the other pains. Yeah, no, yeah, you would rather have, I wish somebody would use the damn highway to get here, you know? Yeah. There's that for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:50 That, um, yeah, that definitely, that pains me, man. I hate driving this damn traffic. I do, too. I can't stand it. You have the luxury of being able to at least time your travel. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I'm up early and I, the drive home's a little tough because I get done at like 5.30 during the season.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Taylor is moving a little south, though, so that you're going to be on that highway. Yeah, we're building and force. hills and it's a pain in the ass man it's i mean the they're being okay like we're kind of we're moving forward but it's i've heard a lot of nightmare oh hills worst than forest hill are you not in you're talking about i'm in forest hills you're talking about compton estate yeah i'm kind of competent estate you love that we got to cut that we got to cut all that fuck we're not got people showed up in my my my plot of dirt yeah confident estate was it so all right Put a gate up.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I'm putting gates up, man. I'm putting gates up. I'm having a security post. But I don't even want a security guard because I feel like in my head every security guard's fat. And I'm like, you know, if I just have a camera,
Starting point is 01:26:52 if I just have a camera, that gives me at least 100 yards from that gate to my house. Yeah. Or you have security guard. I can equip myself enough. Just throw some bows out there. You should bring one in every October
Starting point is 01:27:04 for like spook season and just have somebody dressed in like a Michael Myers outfit that just kind of watches. Dude, I'm going to have some Halloween parties at that house. I love, I love Halloween. It's my favorite holiday. Spooktober. Spooktober, dude. I think we
Starting point is 01:27:17 got to work on events for Halloween, man. I'm willing. Let's do it. Come on, June. Are you serious? That's terrible, too. That's the one I'll do. We got to work on. We have to work on a chainsaw sound. Or Jason Vore's one of those. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:38 But I love, I do Halloween's my favorite. I love just getting, have you been, if you've gone to the Kings, I've gone to the last three or four. I never would wear a costume. No? And I got shamed. As you should.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah, I was going to say you should. And so I've gone all in. What were you last year? Last year I was Gorsuch. What's Gorsuch? The Supreme Court Justice. Oh, yeah. So I had buttons made with the scale of justice that said I like beer.
Starting point is 01:28:07 I had a beer hat. Sonny was dressed like a Heineken beer. Yeah. So I had my beer with me. I had my beer with me. God, what else? I did two or three things. The year before,
Starting point is 01:28:20 ever watch David Pumpkin on Saturday? You did it? Yes, it's hilarious. I was the skeleton from David Pumpkin. I love that. With the hair standing up and dancing all the time. Yeah. And I stayed in character all night.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And people were just like, you're out of your mind. I love how it's your Halloween costume, but you decide to be the side skeleton character of David Pumpkin. That's the best part. Was there a David Pumpkin? No. So people would, there were other skeletons, but there was no other David Pumpton. That's right.
Starting point is 01:28:47 That's right. I took my blue Titan flamehead wig that I got at one game and sprayed it white, but the blue showed through. So it made it even funnier. Yeah. I didn't get all the way white. But my suit glowed in the dark. And you would appreciate it. Was it skin tight?
Starting point is 01:29:05 Yes. Oh, body suit. So you had to work out a little bit before you had to be in the gym a little bit. But then I'm getting dressed. I go. how do I pee? My wife, she's got to take it.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I go, uh-uh, that's bullshit. Yeah. So I go, I'm operating. So I went and got stick on Velcro. And then I got scissors and I cut a fly. Yeah. And I put on black. Blackest black underwear.
Starting point is 01:29:29 But I made myself a pee hole because I, uh-uh. You should have been. On and off. No. It wouldn't go happen. So I invented a new costume. Oh, I love it. For David Pumpkin.
Starting point is 01:29:39 That's it. I would have gone buttons. Like, you know how that. Those long johns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't have punt. I was got a front patch, man. With the,
Starting point is 01:29:47 I was so little buttons on there. He had to make do. He had to improvise. It was Halloween day, and I went, uh-uh. Take them scissors. I'm,
Starting point is 01:29:54 like I said, Halloween's my favorite holiday. But I, for Halloween, I always like, I'm like, I'm like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:30:00 I got to dress up. Yeah. So I was a penalty flag last year. Yeah, because I don't remember us doing anything. Yeah, because I was at the, with me and Butchwer at the party,
Starting point is 01:30:09 at the Kings of Liam. The year before? It wasn't, yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, that is. It was like a kind of an exclusive, like, just like a close friends and, like, best friends kind of thing. I get you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:30:22 My new best friend. Last thing we did is a riffraff. I clowned up the joint, dude. So two years ago, maybe Taylor had a few epic penalty games. So. I thought this was another, be another beer story. I'm looking like an A-A candidate right now. Jared and Nathan and I were together.
Starting point is 01:30:39 and let me say we're going to buy a shitload of yellow flags and when he comes in we're going to hammer I bought a case I left them at home
Starting point is 01:30:51 we were all ready I mean I still have them in my garage yellow towels oh we'll get him on that we'll get him on that much is my new best friend we'll get him on that that's hilarious
Starting point is 01:31:05 man oh my God yeah that that Halloween part is awesome so much fun it's pretty epic yeah dude i'm fired up you came on i'm honored this was awesome like i'm first season yeah first season i knew you'd be awesome i read some of your stuff like you know how you've built this thing how you've built the city and i don't believe it right okay true fair enough and taylor says a lot of good things obviously but like i'm pleasantly surprised how much of a boy you are i say that in a way of like the boys like you're a boy like you're one of
Starting point is 01:31:36 the boys dude well thank you and i i've enjoyed it's a couple of Like I knew it would be insightful, but you brought some enthusiasm, some, you raised some hell. Like you said some, we got a shirt coming now. Butch slap. Butch slap. I'm working on it. I'll come back with a shirt. But you need to have me back on.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I'm going to bring a bottle of commemorative Jack Daniels with the draft logo engraved on it. I'm in it. And a t-shirt. You need to come on, like, a Friday or Saturday. Popping a couple of these drinks. That's a deal. We can do that. Is it a regular night that you take this?
Starting point is 01:32:07 We try to do, usually Tuesday or Wednesday. has been a consistent thing for us. Okay. But it's kind of all over the place right now. We're starting to stack pods, man. Yeah, a lot of his base around the old boy, his family's in Canada. So he'll come through the week, you know, play ball, do the pod, go home on weekends. Some weekends he'll be here, though.
Starting point is 01:32:26 So, you know, we're going to try to figure stuff out and kind of, yeah, stack the library with pods before the season starts. If you want to brainstorm either some locations or some ideas or people. Is there a sponsorship? I think it'd be awesome to get. This bus mobile. See, that's why we need the brink truck noise and the cha-ching. Oh, nothing? Pink Floyd.
Starting point is 01:32:47 What are you doing? Juice, please. Okay, stop, Juice. That's why I'm using the soundboard the entire time. That's us. You know, hey, we're still, we're in the, we're in, like, a thinking process of changing our production company right now. But it's, it's, it's an awful. I'm impressed with the air conditioning and the gear.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Oh, that's Jeff Estes. That's nothing to do with them. that Jeff S is our guy I installed that air conditioner back there He did not Hey hey hey hey hey he said the gear though What's that? Oh you like this A lot
Starting point is 01:33:17 Seventh thing I did was how'd you get those chairs in the door Right here side door Got the emergency door Got some sound panels up on the side Like we did this thing you should have seen You should have seen this place before When we got it man it was a it was a rat's nest There was literally rats nests
Starting point is 01:33:35 I might have a Nashville neon sign I'll do it Let's go. We'll put it right there. Yeah, we will. Yeah, actually, that'd be a better spot anyway. I got a no bad day sign I've got to put in here somewhere. That'd be solid. That'd be solid.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Did you like a mini one that hangs? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We still got to get that family photo. No comment about pole dancing at all. We're not going on. Yeah. That's one thing I dig about Nashville.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Not all the strip clubs. I'm not a strip club guy. I don't. You know, I do not like it. You'll laugh at this. We had a fair number. And we did. took them out with the convention center it was the wildest thing really you would think the convention
Starting point is 01:34:13 center would have added more yeah we probably wiped out five or six and maybe one or two came back that's good that's weird see i don't it's the whole the whole process the whole courting process when you walk in there is uncomfortable to me yeah you sit there hey baby in the crowd it brings in the crowd it's sitting there too like it just brings in all of them there's like they're just throwing one i just don't like it is there a good cigar bar There's one. I don't go to a lot. There's one on Church Street.
Starting point is 01:34:42 By 505? Across the street from 505. Yeah. Right down. And the liquor store it by Zoe's in Brentwood. They used to have a smoking room. I don't know if they still do. I'm not a big cigar.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I know. I like cigars. I like the vibe. But it doesn't sound like there's one. It sounds like there's a bit of them for a little. And there's a. I've still doing it. A buddy of mine had a rolling, like a mobile scarborough.
Starting point is 01:35:09 that's a nice little move a little move. That's definitely a nice move. Ben Jones had a clay shoot thing and you got to a certain station and he had cigars. They had the cigars there. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:35:19 He can go and they divvied up, gave you some free ones and there's like a Navash Nashville Cigar Club or whatever. Yeah. But man, hey, I appreciate you taking time of your busy schedule. It sounds like you're just moving and grooving out there and we'll definitely have to have you on again
Starting point is 01:35:32 because I feel like. I'll come back in Eastrop. There's so. Yeah. There we go. You sit back with Zach. He'll just be bugging you up with NASCAR questions the whole time we should
Starting point is 01:35:41 figure out a way in December when NASCAR comes in this bus ought to come downtown a minute I'm in a minute too I'll talk to them tomorrow because the fact as long as you don't change it from oh we're not changing anything exterior at least until after December
Starting point is 01:35:58 right it fits yeah oh yeah totally it'll make it yeah we've thought about just taking it in the uh was it the in ground what's it called infield infield excuse me Zach I have so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah, somebody from NASCAR reached out
Starting point is 01:36:13 and wanted to have us on the infield, but they thought it was mobile. They're like, yo, bring it to the infield. We'll get you guys guests. We'll roll out the red carpet, and we need to get this thing rolling. I love it. We can get it.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Let's go. I'm going to buy a tow truck, and I'm going to slap on the top of it. It's going to say, Dad. And then we're going to call the bus Will, because I carry Will. Get the guy. I got to get the guy. And that's a perfect way.
Starting point is 01:36:34 You got to end every episode with some bashing. You know people are saying. Drop it, baby. Get this damn thing off. Hey, I'm out of here. Hey, Will. Throw on this t-shirt.
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