Bussin' With The Boys - Cam Jurgens On Replacing Jason Kelce For The Eagles + Nebraska’s Sweet 16 Run | Bussin’

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Taylor Lewan and Will Compton are back with another STACKED episode of Bussin’ With The Boys! This week’s guest is none other than Nebraska Cornhusker great and Philadelphia Pro Bowl center Cam Jurgens. The Boys have a ton on the docket this week with March Madness in full swing and the NFL Draft on the horizon.   Taylor Lewan kicks off the episode with a little Call Back section of fan submitted comments from last week’s episode with George Kittle. Will Compton addresses the haters that talked trash on his Nebrasketball Cornhuskers. Iowa fans have come out with a map of rivers to pee in that flow downstream into Nebraska in preparation for their March Madness matchup, and Taylor is still exploring different ways that the boys can go out as a crew with Delanie Walker, George Kittle, and others to go shut down an Applebee’s. The Boys close out the intro with Tier Talk fan submitted questions and give their Kevin’s Natural Foods Clean Takes.   Eagles Pro Bowl center Cam Jurgens then hops on to dive deep into anything but internal happenings with his teammates in Philly. Cam lists his favorite flavors of Jurgy, his beef jerky brand and tells the boys how he thought his $30k NIL contract was HUGE back in 2021. Cam Jurgens is authentically loose and casual answering Will and Taylor’s questions on aliens, ghosts, and how to become unpossessed. Will and Taylor pick Cam’s brain on what it’s like to be on a Nick Sirianni coached team, how clutch Big Dom is in a pinch, and what it’s like to play with freaks like Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, and DeVonta Smith. The pod then closes with some fan submitted questions.   We hope you enjoy this episode of Bussin’ With The Boys. Please like, subscribe, and as always…   Big Hugs, and Tiny Kisses! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS   0:00 Intro 5:19 Callbacks 10:24 March Madness Sweet 16 Talk 16:15 Is Nebraska A Basketball School Now? 27:15 Coffin Callback 33:37 Flag Football Classic Recap + Team USA 43:42 Public Schools Top 25  50:08 Hater vs Passionate Fan  57:51 CAM JURGENS INTERVIEW STARTS 1:00:49 Cam's Family Cattle Farm  1:04:07 NIL Money Discussion  1:08:02 Forced Position Change  1:14:29 Growing Up A Husker  1:18:47 The Scott Frost Era  1:22:49 Nebraska's $250 Million Facility Upgrades 1:25:01 Meeting Jason Kelce & Winning A Super Bowl Year One 1:26:29 Philly Fan Base Is Built Different 1:30:50 Lane Johnson Is A Freak  1:38:51 Nebraska Basketball Is Finally Here 1:43:51 Big Ten Is Running College Sports 1:47:29 Best Live Sports  1:50:36 Cam's Injuries 1:53:25 Playing The NFC Championship With A Broken Back 1:58:06 Best Cheesesteak In Philly  1:59:34 Will & Taylor’s Hilarious Breakfast 2:02:40 Midwest Fast Food Hits Different 2:11:08 Talking Crap To Chris Jones 2:12:17 Stem Cell Treatment In Colombia 2:13:03 NAD Drip Racing  2:17:07 Pablo Escobar's Airstrip 2:18:20 Conspiracy Theories  2:21:04 Top Holidays  2:25:06 How Would You Fight A Ghost? 2:28:34 The NFL Is A Cold Business 2:34:19 Balancing Family & Football 2:39:38 Life After Football - Finding That Next Thing 2:45:09 Game Day Anxiety & Imposter Syndrome 2:51:16 How Long Does Cam Want To Play? 2:55:19 Small Town Kid In A Big City  2:57:33 Biggest Purchase After Signing 2:59:06 Masters Draft Weekend With The Boys See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That was our first one there from Joe Costello. Caledrauma. Calandria. Shut on Joe. Shut on Joe. Shut on Joe. Getting through his week with Buster with the Boys. Also, buddy.

Find some hobbies as well, right? Let's do a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Let's do a bunch of stuff. Joe, let us know what you did this week to spice up your week other than Bustin with the boys. Let's get into that. And the Tier 1 can talk about it.

Yeah. Tier 1 community. Yeah. Tier 1 community. This one comes from Dub City 95. I woke up during a labor room repair of my shoulder. I had a nerve block going so I couldn't feel anything. But I heard the doctor say, uh-oh, someone's waking up, but not for long.

Then I was back out. It was a weird experience. Luckily, no pain, though. So those you remember, the George Kittle episode, we talked about the scary people waking up in the middle of surgery, but they're paralyzed. They can't move. And the stat was like one out of a thousand. Which is insane.

insane that actually happens. Not like a high percentage, but one that's like you pause. Yeah. You think one in a million. You think one in multiple millions, to be honest. Yeah.

I'm thinking like this has happened three times in the history of the world. Yeah. And it's just the fact that people wake up during that, like anytime any of us go through anesthesia, hopefully we don't, we never have to go through that. But it sounds like he had a great doc says,

uh-oh, somebody wakey. Yeah. Doc starting to understand that situation. Wiki wakesy, he hands off snakey. We know that, uh, outgy heart Dave, outgy heart Dave, my father, he had open heart surgery just a few weeks ago.

He's doing great. Don't worry. He's fine. Uh, because is Dave, Dave, Dave was, Taylor's personal business. Taylor's personal business. Wait for the podcast. But I wanted to make sure out you heart Dave was okay. But out you heart, Dave, he had surgery.

He goes in. I'm his point. I'm his point of contact. It's horrible person. I have his point of contact. But the nurses are calling me all day and like, hey, he's doing great. Ball, ball, you're going to come see him. I go see Dave.

11 p.m. that night they called me and say hey got something going on some blood just kind of atriculating out of his heart not in the right spots we're going to go back in for surgery and I had him with like hey how should we be should we be like concern like really concerned she's like I put it out of three out of 10 I was like is this like because I'm the son or is this a real three she says it's a real three long story short Dave's completely fine but Dave told me after the surgery and everything his first texting was dude I fucking felt everything he said he he he was he was he was members being put on like they're like one two three slam his ass on the table and they started

going he's like dude i legit felt stuff and then eventually i fell like a fellow back of sleep but how fucking nuts is that how crazy is that so funny is that no i don't know they have like a like a like with open heart surgery i have questions you got like a you got a breathing tube you got a breathing tube in they don't think i showed you the photo yeah yeah you did you took a crazy photo i showed that dude literally because of anesthesia so if you're watching on YouTube you saw the position we'll just make it you make it one more time

should we just should we just put the phone no no no dude no that was a photo I took to literally show Dave because Dave was like did you come see me I'm like yeah I came and saw you and there's a selfie photo of me Dave is he's like here's Dave thing stuff face

he's out everything here's Dave like just like a corpse essentially and I go to see him that Monday and uh the lady, the nurse is in there. I'm so uncomfortable. They're waking up now.

It's been a couple hours. We're to give him an extra dose. And he like starts to wake up and he can tell he's in panic. And you see your old man like this and you're like, oh, fuck, dude. Go back to sleep. Go back to see. Go back to see. Can I leave the room?

Like, he's fine. He's fine. And they kind of leave and I'm like, I start to walk out the room and I hit him with a, I hit my dad with a little selfie just because I knew he would remember. And so when he's like, did you come and see me? Yes, Dave. I came and saw it. He's asked me multiple times.

Here's the evidence. I want you to know I did come and see you. Just trying to be a good son, dude. Just trying to be a good son. We got another one here from Corp 98. This was, I think this was your analysis right here. Well, this was our analysis, and this is true basketball analysis. Yeah.

If you're good at basketball and you shoot it in the hoop consistently, you will win games. It's just a top-tier analysis from the guy. Corp. 98, he is correct in that. If you, listen, Sweet 16 is coming up this Thursday. We're all excited about it. It's incredible to see that not only Michigan, but also Nebraska, who before March Madness tournament, was O&A all time in the tournament.

They've now won two games. They've put themselves in the Sweet 16 against Iowa. The battle of the border is taking place again. So if Michigan and Nebraska stick with me here, boys, because this might get a little deep. We've got to go to the championship. If Michigan and Nebraska put the ball in the hoop more consistently than Alabama and Iowa, they will win the game.

Clip it, just know I called it first. Whoever scores more will win. That's great. And I think I just want to know your feelings about Iowa, Nebraska, the rivalry. This is having Kittalong last week. Before we get into it, there's Mark Hughes, 7393, Troy's upsetting Nebraska. All right, that take didn't work out well six days ago. Shoot or shoot, though.

Bro. It's got to go in the hoop. This is all time. I don't think nobody predicted this, but I saw a tweet last night, and I think it related perfectly. And I'll try and find the tweet, but the guy essentially said,

he posted, this is like when two travel baseball teams, you know, go to the big show. They're out in the country, going everywhere, all around, and then you find out you're playing the team, that grew up just across the street from you.

This obviously is everything, but I'm fired up because Kevin's natural food, clean take. Love Kevin's natural food. We love Kevin's natural foods. Foods. Kevin's natural foods. I love all their foods. Because you can eat more than one.

They have all of them. They have a bunch of different varieties. But my clean take is this Nebraska-I-I-W match up in March Madness for the Sweet 16. will be in the realm. This is a realm matchup of that you would see with Duke and North Carolina. As far as, dude, they're going to make so much, like, the attention that's going to be on this game.

Do you know what I'm trying to say? I know, hold on. Like, I'm not saying Nebraska and Iowa are blue buds and college basketball on any form or fashion. I'm not saying that. Because you said North Carolina and Duke, and that probably rose some eyebrows. Rose some eyebrows.

But as far as like that rivalry, if they match up in one of these massive games. It's like, you know, everybody's like, oh, this is the rivalry of college basketball. Everybody's going to be tuned in. Everybody's going to be fired up. The environment is going to be crazy. Nebraska, Iowa is such a sneaky matchup for college basketball and March Madness. March Madness had no clue that they needed this matchup.

Like they will live in that realm of notoriety, just juice in the environment, and just the overall rivalry between these two states. Like these two states are thinking about nothing else other than beating each other right now. Not in like they own us in football Like this is just like Nebraska fans are so fucking happy That Iowa beat Florida And now that I was facing up Nebraska

Like this is everybody is trying to get tickets Like everybody's gonna be tuned into this game This is what the Midwest prayed for Nationally they don't know it But this is what they needed When the Nottie, the deep state of college basketball We're saying like what were the best matchups We could possibly ask for

This never crossed it But now they're seeing it They're like Okay we got something here The ratings, I don't know how the population of Iowa and Nebraska work, or how the numbers are there, they are considered flyover states, those ratings are going to be through the roof for this specific game. Like as the Deep State March Madness Committee is sitting there,

and they're trying to, say this was, they were placing, hey, these are the matches that should happen. Referees, make sure these matchups happen. There's a Liam Bluntman from Barstle sitting in the corner being like, you guys need to get Iowa, Nebraska. And people laughed. They laughed. They laughed.

They scoffed. Yes. There's like, who let him in the room today? It's like, no. Yeah, bring him back in the room. He was like creepy dude in the corner. Right, exactly. Got some weird energy about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got some quiet kid energy and high school vibes, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. And that kid's gonna be right. Can I tell you you're Kevin's natural foods, clean take? At first, I felt like I was like at a five-star French restaurant, and their waiter comes up and he's very proper,

and he kind of explains the specials. And he says, this is fantastic, but he uses a bunch of words. You don't really know. So you're kind of taking his word for it at first, but you don't know if it's going to actually be delicious. And they bring that plate out. Well, you served me. Through the process of breaking down your Kevin's Natural Foods clean take,

that's a clean take. Oh, that's a clean take. Thank you. Wow. Good work, dude. Because obviously I have bias. I'm a big Nebraska sicko. Mostly Nebraska football sicko.

You're a Nebraska sicko. Surprise. Sue me. Yeah. But when I will pull that off, I had a full tweet written out for when they, it seemed like we're going to lose because it's Florida. It's like they're a one C. They're the rainy national champions.

I'm just thinking Florida's going to win the game. I had a full tweet mapped out, ready to hit send. and when they hit it and then Florida ended up missing in the last couple seconds like bro I'm like this is like fucking Christmas that we have this matchup

Nebraska and Iowa who do you guys have if you guys beat Iowa when you guys beat Iowa let's just play the game it'll probably be Houston good ball club good ball club you thought it would probably be Florida who's Houston playing

don't matter Houston is Houston is playing Illinois good ball club Big 10 Big 10 Shirm, you brought this up in the pre-production meeting.

Nebraska? Is Nebraska becoming a basketball school? Was your question? Was your question we saw Will, similar face to that? Would just love to know your thoughts we said save it for the pod. Nebraska is a sports school.

Hard stop. Like we are in the, everybody, obviously you got the port noise, you got the underlying tone of having the knife in and let's get them on this football. Let's get them on the football rocker. Yeah.

But at the end of the day, like Nebraska's in the Sweet 16, for the first time in program history. Yeah. Never won a March Madness game. We won two now. People thought we were going to lose Detroit just because, again, we've gotten here a couple times,

but we've never went, what, we're 0 and 8. Oh, and 8, but now you're on a meeting your last game. So people are like, oh, you can see Troy beat Nebraska because they've just never been there. Now we've rattled off too. They won't beat Vanderbilt, beat Vanderbill. Like, we're in the Suite 16. our volleyball team is a blue blood in volleyball.

Our wrestling team got third in March Madness to back-to-back top three podium, which is the first time in the program's history. We are the best bowling school of all time. No arguing, no debating. Our baseball team is back-to-back big tension. No arguing, no debating. Our baseball team is back-to-back conference champions.

Like our... No arguing, no-dating. Our men's gymnastics team is nice. Our gymnastics team... Hold on. Hold on. team is nice. You give me with back-to-backs, no argument, no debating, and then you just said nice,

like how nice? Men's gymnastics? Yeah. We got a shitload of national titles. They're flipping. Yeah, they're flipping. They're flipping. Our diving team, I'm sure, is nice.

They got the Vince Vaughn hold going on from old school. Yeah, all to say, like, Nebraska is a sports school. Okay. Like, there's no, yeah. Listen, our football program has been down for over a decade. That's not, it is what it is. Down, but on the come-up. You guys have won two, years have gone to two bowl games in row.

That's not debatable. That's not debatable. That's not. debatable that's fact big bad mowers what was the one this year pinstripe we lost this year it's Vegas Vegas we were in Vegas Vegas that's the problem Utah beat us you know what's so just crazy to me is you guys watched the Nebraska game this past weekend great game those guys on the court and they're winning yeah sure dude they're nice they play well together they have good fundamentals Hoyberg hoiber a lot of effort people wanted gone over the last few years who's 451

Hoyberg's the head coach. Oh. His son, Sam, he's on the team. He's on the squad. He runs point. Fred? Sam. Sam.

I thought you were saying the head coach. He's a dog. Like, we got a good squad. Do you just have a hockey team? No. We don't have like a school hockey team. That's crazy. And the Big Ten, no hockey team.

Kevin's natural food clean take. It's going to ruffle some feathers. Okay. Kevin's natural foods. Kevin's Natural Foods clean take. Thank you, Kevin's Natural Foods. Nebraska's fan base is the best fan base in the country, bar none. Taylor rebuttal on his clean tape?

I love where his head's at. Yeah. There's no fan base that supports their school program more than Nebraska fans. Lover's heads out. Yeah. Lover's heads out. Is this... Jack, just let him have it.

No, I'm asking a question. Go ahead. Is this specifically for Jack Hanging? No. I came in. I was saying that clean take shout out Kevin's natural foods I was saying that to jack jack got worked up but I'm like jack here's how it hit me other jack even bigger sicko jack yeah chef jack you guys are you guys are in the same tier but I'm like it hit me the other

night because again I'm not it's not like I watch college basketball all year around it's not like I'm watching the Nebraska ball and the cornhuskers all year round but obviously I'm watching them in March Madness support in my school but seeing all of the love seeing the national media and everybody else kind of like take awe in how Nebraska fans travel. In my brain, I'm like, yeah, we all know this. But seeing everybody else kind of get introduced to it on the basketball level because we've never been a good basketball team. We've been, we pack out and sell out everything. Again, when you look at the women's volleyball team, biggest crowd in women's sports history was at Memorial Stadium over 90,000 people watching that game. Anytime our our team is like going far in the tournament,

like we Nebraska fans support their programs the most because they travel the best. They're everywhere in the country. They're scattered everywhere. There's no other school. There's no other competing school. There's no competing pro teams. There's nothing except the University of Nebraska. And when Chef was getting worked up because Jeff is a sicko Tennessee Vols fan, Tennessee Vols fans.

Chef Jeff. Let him cook. All right. Just let him go. When he's getting worked up on my bro, Tennessee Vol fans are awesome. They're unreal. They're nice. Like they are elite.

But. And then I pointed out. to write to Matt Malone, who's a social media producer of ours, who is like a, he's not a fairweather Valls fan, but he's not like a, he's, he's not bought in. He can be in or out. It doesn't affect his day. I'm like, there are no Matt Malones in the state of Nebraska. Like, it's nothing but Chef Jacks, JPs, uh, Jack McPherson's across the board throughout the entire state. Young, old, doesn't matter. You're bleeding red, bro. You're wearing red. It's go big red for life forever. No matter what.

there is no tomorrow there is no tomorrow there's a lot of different arguments to that however i love it give us one okay um you said a lot so we'll go one by one he did say a lot okay let's break this down there's no other team that supports their team more than nebraska does which fan base would you say is better than nebraska's let's start there what scale we're talking about we're talking about like the best fan base in all of college sports is the Nebraska Cornhuskers. I think you can put LSU up there. No, you can.

Yeah, you absolutely can. All right, let's back it up with some data. You could put Michigan in there. No, you couldn't. Yes, you can. You get disgusted with Michigan fans every now and then. Yeah, that Texas game a couple years ago was stuff, but it's 115,000 people.

It's sold out every single time. You guys just won a Natty and left in the middle of the Texas game. Yost Arena. That ain't happening in Nebraska. The team has always filled out. Our basketball team, they're always sold out. Like, our field hockey games, they used to live across the street.

It would get rowdy every single Friday or Saturday when they played. It was always sold out. Soccer games always sold out. So, like, the sold out game, here's your biggest. Let's go to your next argument. Here's your best. Here's your best. This is you say words doesn't mean they're true.

We put your best. One time and went our fan base versus your band base. Your best argument. Got destroyed. Your best argument is that there's no, there's no competing schools in Nebraska. That's a huge win for you guys. Yeah,

and I'm saying try and give me some other team because LSU and Michigan ain't, they ain't better than Nebraska. Texas A&M, that's a good one. Texas A&M. Texan N is a crazy, crazy cult fan base. University of Texas,

all of the Texas schools, Dallas Cowboys. Like it is nothing but Nebraska Cornhuskers in the state of Nebraska. I wonder what Iowa situation is like. I wonder how Iowa, handles their sports. Is it the same as Nebraska?

We'll find out. No. It could be. It could very, like Iowa City rips. Anytime, anytime I played there when I was playing at Michigan,

sold out, going crazy, loud, nighttime, getting after it, maybe, maybe louder than Nebraska. I was little bro.

I was, okay. I can tell. For fan bases. I can tell you're here and that's all good. That's all good. Yeah,

you know what? This is why I should have You got it. Nebraska. It's hard to argue their fan base. They're incredible. They're incredible. Clean take.

But the shot about the merch thing going back and forth, like I didn't become a Michigan Sinko until the last couple of years. We could do it again. Listen. Listen, just relax. I saw something. I'm just saying whenever it gets a substance, like there's no substance in your arguments. You just tried saying I was better than Nebraska.

No, no, no. I said the stadium's louder. From my one experience, my two experiences from 090.9. to 13. Yeah, but that's false. Like, that's like factually false. Okay. But he's speaking his truth. I'm speaking my truth. That's his truth. Yeah. Right. Could he have some in the truth? Yeah.

What is. What is this? That's like sick and bears. Yeah. I wouldn't say Baylor's up there. No. I wouldn't say bailers up there. I wouldn't say TCU was up there. I wouldn't either. I didn't see something really disgusting and sad on Twitter over the weekend. I saw some Iowa fans, which Will has let us know, not the greatest people out there drew a map of rivers that you can pee in in Iowa that flow

into the state of Nebraska that is objectively funny just thought that was pretty disgusting and pretty yeah that just that I was like nothing but respect for the Iowans that's objectively funny it was so funny

that is hilarious flow into Nebraska and that is such a Midwest thing to do you know how we should get them just get this river Pull up a map, Jeff. They just got them pissing in streams like this one's going right to Memorial Stadium. I have a universal question for everybody.

Do you call them creaks or cricks? Creeks. Creeks. I think Iowa and the brat, like everybody up the, everybody in that area, they call them cricks. Say it in the mic. Say it in the mic, Jared. They're stupid. That's just not the word.

I'm just saying it's universal language up there that it's a creek. I'm not going to you stupid, but I call it a creek. Crick is just not the word. That's just not a. I always thought. I always thought that a crick was a smaller version of a creek. Like it's the volume size. But that could just be me thinking and assuming something as a young kid.

But if Crick sounds like a smaller tributary. Regional use, Crick is common throughout the North Midland region, including parts of Iowa. Also, Michigan probably travels just as good and not better than Nebraska. You're still on that. I'm not about traveling.

probably peeing some rivers and it would float. Yeah, you guys are up there all. We could get them all. Streams going south. We get them all. Low key, you just go to one of those great lakes.

You pissing that. You're getting everybody. You're getting fucking everybody. That's where all the water comes from. So we also, we have the high ground when it comes to peeing in lakes. We have the high ground on you guys.

What else? Dude. No, we definitely travel incredible. Like, we were in bowl games when I played that we shouldn't have been in because of how well we travel. Let's go to the AG dad. He said, listening to this on Spotify, when Taylor dropped the coffin,

literally stopped what I was doing to pop up YouTube so I could watch the reactions. Holy shite dude. Cry a laughing face. That was a beautiful execution. I did have. There was some fodder out there saying that it was a technicality on execution. Whoa. I'm not buying that.

Yeah, I'm not buying that. Who the fuck said that? People just wanted to see Taylor lose. That's all right. Probably hot guys. You're probably a hawkai. Yeah. I thought she said hot guys.

I thought you said hot guys. It probably was these fucking douchey hot guys, wasn't it? There's some cute guys out there. Let me see here. Let's see here. All you got to do is watch the reaction. Yeah, the react. Hook line and see.

If you're getting a little messed up because vowels were used incorrectly, you'll never be able to take that reaction from me. Ever. The feeling, the hat off, handshake, the handshakes in the back George will feel that for a long time and he was kind of quiet after for a little bit hey the edit that was made and getting to zoom in on George's

like eyes and facial look reaction and everything else that clip was incredible who the fuck made that clip Mitch made that clip right off a clip boy clippy Mitch crush that crush that dude uh yeah that

yeah I went home and I called people about that I called people about that And I was like you got it You got to wait for this clip to come out It's going to be incredible Then you send the clip and then you're like So what'd you think They don't respond for a couple hours

Yeah What'd you got Jackie? I was handed a call back And look I don't want to get nasty on a Monday Yeah, yeah bet the bus Huh Is it the bet the bus one you got me with No no no

Because that one had a similar vibe to the... No, no, no. I was just handed a callback. And it's in reference to someone talking about the Titans' jerseys last week, calling them candy asses. I'm not going to say specifically who that was. What a segue. Don't take shots of the Titans.

You weren't get Jack worked up. And I don't like this. Again, we don't need to get Matt Nasty on a Monday. But from Texas underscore 21, it's actually hilarious how consistently awful clump is. Period. Oh, that's it Second one That's a solid

Look, and I'm not getting nasty You, I'm just reading comments Actual comments from our YouTube This is not made up, this is not AI This one's from Cody Daily 6276 Yo, watch your mouth clump Those units go hard

And we will win in them Hashtag tighten up That one's a little less nasty But yeah, I was just I was told to say this So I just want to get the facts out there Get the information When the news comes to your door

we can't be mad at you for reporting it. Yeah. Right? You're the messenger in the situation. Objectively just reading the news. Non-biased. Comp is the king of horrible takes and baiting people. Baiting and that's not news.

One of the best ever. That's not me reporting the news. That's my opinion. When it all shakes out, it'll go 50 cent Jeremy Clump and trolls. 50 cent. I know. Jeremy Clump. I mean, honestly, that was a massive.

That is great company. Yeah. Yeah, I think, is this the last callback we have? Final callback. Gerondo Martinez, Clay, George, Will Delaney, and Taylor's selfie from Applebee's will be elite. I love how Delaney's popped into that.

I love that he is. I have. You need a Delaney. You need a Delaney. Gotta have a Delaney. You guys are in Nebraska. You have one Delaney. You need a Delaney, man.

Gotta have a Delaney. We have to get absolutely bombed at Applebee's slash chilies. We've got to get bombed at one on a Tuesday. George's words. I think we need to make a social graphic where the fans vote and we will do Applebee's versus Chili's and then they can decide.

I like that. I like that. It's a good, that's... My only hesitation. A lot of free shoutouts to Applebee's and Chalys. Really?

We've said it. We're pulling them up. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Maybe we switch it up, go to Old Charlie's, he knows. Whatever happened to an Outback Steakhouse, huh? They're around. Or Buffalo?

Whatever happened to an Outback Steakhouse? Or Buffalo Wild Wings. A BWW. Dude, that is a great. Great. That is a great one. Right? Sneaky.

Sneaky. Sneaky. What about... In good vibes. Not that the other ones. Is there a rainforest cafe in the next 20 mile? I went to Rainforest Cafe this weekend. And it absolutely is holding up to the test of time.

When your parents would say, we're going to Rainforest Cafe, that 20, 30-minute drive might as well be three days long. You're so excited. The opportunity to see all those animatronic animals, it's... We almost went from about. for real we we had an 18 person reservation in Vegas at rainforest cafe and it truly was unbelievable we had one server serving 18 guys and she was crushing it and the food was honestly very solid middle of the road like you're not going to complain about it but you're not going to go rave about it but it did the job and rainforest cafe you're not going for the food you're going for the

vibes you're going for the atmosphere of the animatronic apes and and the rainstorms that just come out of Nowhere. Out of nowhere. It's awesome. Dude, there's an aquarium restaurant at... Opry Mills Mall. Took my kids there. Food?

Yikes. But we're not there for the food. We're there for the fun drinks. Mmm. Yeah. What's the... Was it islands? Something islands.

There's another one that's similar to that. Grand Island? No. Onward. But yeah, we got some good options. Because there's one right off the highway that Outback Steakhouse right before you get on the highway. By my old spot, that might be the move right there.

It's a good spot. It's an outback guy. Dude, a bloomin onion. Oh, yeah. A well-made blooming onion. And a blooming blonde? Yeah. It's their own brew.

Whoa. Oh, yeah. Get bombed in an outback? I'm just saying. Getting bombed in an outback. Did you guys check out the flag football classic by fanatics? No. No, but I saw clips.

I'll tell you what. It was a good time. It was a fun watch. Yeah, it was a fun watch. We were out at the pool. I had it on. And then, because I was surprised. I didn't even know the Team USA, the actual flag football team.

I didn't know that they were even in it. I didn't, to be honest, I didn't even really know what it was, the flag football. Usually there's a flight football game. I knew it was going to be at first in the Middle East, then it came to L.A. Why? I don't know. There could be some stuff going on. Some going on in the Middle East right now?

Yeah. There's just weather. Yeah. It could have been some bad weather. It's probably hot out there right now. That's fair. But obviously they were promoting it through like, you know, Logan Paul and Tom Brady were going back and forth through like podcasting, social media.

like Tom making fun of him saying he's not an athlete, then Logan Paul challenging every NFL guy to a fight, which I thought was... All to just bring attention to this flag football game that was going to take place. I just thought it was like, Tom Brady had a team, Logan Paul had a team like they were just going to play flag football.

With a lot of these big-name guys that got paid to go and play flag football game. Yeah. So whenever I turned it on and I saw Team USA was out there, I'm wondering which, like, Tom, like who's on Team USA? And then I just see it's these elite bastards that have been just talking all the noise. always in the world, like playing their game being the best flag football team in the world.

Right. Go up against the retired NFL players, current NFL players, some influencers. I see that the influencers and NFL players, they had split. They had two teams. And then there was Team USA, the flag football team. And they kind of just did like a round robin. It was fun to watch. The flag football team, Team USA, dummied the NFL guys.

Like it wasn't even close. Now, obviously, you know, the thing about playing flag football, you're sitting there learning about the game a little bit, like schematically, the rules, everything else. Like, clearly the NFL guys have no clue what's going on. They're kind of trying to figure it out a few days before. What are some of the rule differences? They only get a certain amount of downs to get to where it's like, you only get like four downs to get to the goal line, half field?

The way like I play down here, it's four, four downs to get to the half field. And then half field's first and goal. And yeah, then first and goal. And then within side the five yards, it's called the no run zone, meaning the quarterback cannot like take the snap and then just run you have to go you got you got you okay okay and then there's like you're not allowed to like stiff arm or anything like that's like you usually have to be elusive yes that's why you when you see the people like duck down and like walk when their knees look like they're about to explode and it's called duck walking like

like that's how you get away from oh buddy it's magical yeah i saw the clip of that quarterback that was talking all that noise and i'm better than my homes and better than this guy what's that dude's name hush ducette du set and i saw him just kind of scamper on i don't know how many yards he got but it was a clinic of just watching somebody who seemed like they're moving on warp speed compared to everybody else

normal speed. Very impressive. They drop down and do this duckwalk shit and then they'll turn sideways like this little sideways move. I wasn't all. They destroyed. Again,

it was like, what was it? The founders team, Team USA and then the other like NFL team. But Team USA whooped both NFL teams like 35 to 12 and like 45 to fucking eight.

Oh, like, that killed well yeah if you're talking about being elusive i did see tom brady hit him with a little he got over the left a little bit one time got a guy who was running a little didn't set his feet got went off a diving board a little bit on his tackle but you're not that's not the quarterback you want in a fly football game from what it sounds like you need you need some mobility you need lamar jackson but it was fun to watch tom brady like tom brady still like when he's talking shit on uh shacks podcast saying like i can go out there right now and still dominate like you can

see tom brady still has jues it was fun watching joe burrow obj vintage obj out there grabbing on one hand. I did see that. The Andre Hopkins in the end zone with somebody kind of like moves, oh buddy, little boys, him and then catches it with one arm. Just seeing Luke Keechley get out there and run around. He was a liability a lot of the time. Yeah, Luke Keekely, that was the hardest thing for me to see on the bird. Yeah, oh, why are they doing my boy like this? Like, you just got inducted into the Hall of Fame and you're going to put them out there?

Yeah, but this Team USA, like the Olympics are coming for flag football in 2028, and I'm thinking Team USA, this group, this squad needs to be who's representing the USA. Yeah. And whoever they deem fit, whether it's a current or an ex-N-Fel player that they think can be on their team, to me, it's like, that's Team USA's call. Because there are like, you can get a couple receivers. Again, it's like OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, but Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, like, they're more than capable of being on Team USA. But to me, it's like the decision-making needs to come from this Team USA squad because they are fucking nice. The decision-making.

So, Grunk, that big. of a body that much of a catch radius I would assume regardless he would do well he did not do well but he was in for like a couple of plays he'd hurt his hamstring all that n-ddd he does all that all that shit all that shit wrongs to do all that dude what was he just done no shit I didn't get to see it I he does ozone he does N80 he's in the hyperbaric chamber of 16 times a day and this boy can't keep a hammery right he got soft tish injury prone man your best ability's availability no doubt about it talking all that shit saying he'd wolf Logan Paul I I think he got hurt on his touchdown.

He scored and then when he tried to stand up, his leg, like, slipped out and it was weird. It was kind of like a freak thing. I saw a clip of Joe Burrow hit like a hard, like stop on that right leg, spin move. And I think it was somebody commenting on like, there's no way NFL owners are going to allow NFL players to ever do this again. The, what makes it so different is like it's five on, I believe it was five on five and like the schematics of it all. And like how you're able to like scheme people open. Obviously you do that in the NFL, but like it's so different. and like I'm all in on like the USA flag stuff like I mean I watched their YouTube videos and everything like that and it's they're some legit athletes and like a lot of them played college ball somewhere and then like that's what I'm saying they just they're elite athletes but they just stop growing and they just know how to like move their body and the the hardest part is grabbing that flag and they're just snipers with it and just makes them so good at it God great at grabbing the flag great at just changing their levels and still running while they're changing their levels impressive it's crazy

Now, if you give, like, again, you put the best, like, the best NFL squad you came together and give them some time. I see, like, to learn the rules. Like, they can figure it out. I'm not just saying they whooped us and it's going to be that way forever. Like, there's just, there's rules and schematics and just different things that clearly the NFL guys would just have to take time and learn. But I love just watching it. I love seeing Kyle Shane and Annie. He's calling plays on the side.

Sean Payton's got the little, what is it? A little paper. Clipboard. clipboard. That's what it's called. Got the little clipboard over his mouth. Like, they're running like a real operation. Like they are like, they're having fun, but they're also taking a serious because you know

that they want to beat these guys. You know that both NFL squads want to beat each other. It was fun to watch. I enjoyed watching it. There was like a million dollar tournament like maybe five, six years ago. And it was this team USA team, but it was seven on seven versus old NFL players like going against like Justin Fawcett, Jason Avant, Seneca Wallace. And they were playing for a million dollars.

and the Team USA like beat him by 20 points. Yeah, they're good. And that little Doucette cat, like he don't have like a fucking quarterback throwing motion by any mean. He like he's going from the ear. Again, you could say you'd be sitting here, hit the snap count and just dish it off to your boy and he'll just go and try and skim him for 10 yards.

Yeah, but he knows the play. Yeah, he's facilitating as a point guard out there. Dude, it's, it was incredible. I think we need to. When you're watching it, are you watching these NFL players and are they putting in 100% effort? Are you watching playoff football?

Are you watching preseason football? I'm watching. I'm witnessing them try. Wow. Like they're trying. Whether or not they're kind of goofing around or taking a light, like, yeah, they can't get hurt. I'm sure they're thinking about that stuff.

But you put them in a stadium with all this influence and attention around this game going into it, and they got paid money to do it. I want to say Team USA, all of them got like $100,000, which is like life-changing money or big money for them. But yeah, the NFL dudes were trying. They absolutely were. Like they're having fun, but Sequin Barclay who gets the ball,

he's trying to get extra yardage. He's trying to jukely. Like Luke Kikley's trying to take all the right angles, and cover his ground and have some range. There's just different things that go on that would take time to learn. But they were definitely trying. Trying to grab a flag as opposed to it.

Yeah, all that seems like Sequin, you would think it would be so elusive, but even that spin of those flags were kind of flying off, left the right, probably easy to snipe for these guys. Yeah. As opposed to doing the duck walk or whatever it is. That is nuts.

The more I hear you guys talk about this, the more I'm sick to my stomach that bustle with the boys wasn't out there. Yeah. All that firepower, all those people, all the opportunities we could have had. There's a part of me watching be like we should be out there

but also it's like again thinking about the Olympics having flag football in 2028 like it's just how can we grow this game because I enjoyed watching it. That's like that. A bus with the boys' tourney? Host it.

I mean, yeah, that'd be fun. It would be sweet. Sounds like a lot of work. Need a project manager. Yeah, yeah. An events coordinator. He needs somebody to take that on for us. No doubt.

Should we get into some tier talk? These fans, they're beaming. Yeah, because Juergens. Jergy, he'll be here in what, 10 minutes? He goes, Lord. Jalen Hertz through pick six, too, in the game. I saw your tweet midseason form. Clump, your statement?

He also threw a touchdown down the right sideline to Devante Smith, just like the one he threw in the Super Bowl, kind of like right in the bread basket when they won the Super Bowl. Where you win with these NFL cats is the size, like throwing the deep ball, like again, JJ, Justin Jefferson out there, like going up top, DeAndre Hopkins, O'Dell, those guys, like those are, examples where it's like you can you can figure something out here you just need more time to practice and prepare and kind of like learn the game and there's no blocking no no blocking okay

so you can't even you'll get called for a holding call don't respect it bro if you miss say you miss a flag and i just get you like this yeah throw a flag and it'll be a holding call like it's pretty oh it's precise you got to be a sharpshooter a little sniper they'll be chris kyle with them with them flags yeah all right hit some tear talk before we get into uh cam jurgins here uh public schools top 25 National at top 25 Public HSFB says Hashtack Tier Talk, how long will it take Will's brothers team to make it

into the public school top 25 over under two years? Will Compton, I'll let you take it. Is there a public school top 25? That's what this Twitter account is public schools top 25. If there's a rankings out there, we got to get in the national rankings. I got to be careful.

You got like IMG in there. You got Bishop Gorman. You got like a bunch of crate. Bishop Gorman's the fake school, isn't it? No, you're right. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always mess up the fake school in that one. But there's a there's a like heavy fucking hitters heavy hitters. Got to be careful. De LaSalle. They're always in that thing. Shaperill, loki, we were in it for a minute. Like it was after I left, but just let me know.

I can't be out there putting too much expectation out there. You know what I mean? Let's get. Let's win a state. Because even last week when I'm saying, oh, we've been laxed. We've been to the corners. We've been in the semis. We've made an appearance in the state championship back in 97. I had my face paint. I was a young little boy about eight years old. Face painted NC on my face. Went to the dome. Edward Jones dome. the Rams had a team. But I said that last week, the old head ball coach was under my tweet saying there's a lot

that goes into like winning games. I feel like I saw, hang on, what I'm saying is, I feel like I was saying something and kind of talking to White and been like, we've been so lax and we don't care about years past. Like how are we going to go and win a state title? And I feel like my old ball coach, Coach Jones, shout out of Coach Joe. I love Coach Jones. I feel like he might have took it a little personal.

No doubt. Because the way you were talking, if I'm the guy that was there for multiple decades, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. I would take what you said personal. Coach Jones was our O-Line coach when I was in high school. We went undefeated. He cried. Like he loves, he bleeds blue and gold.

Yeah. So when I saw his comment under my tweet when I was kind of hyping White and kind of like doing the whole theatrics thing with Wyatt, he was like, oh, there's a ton that goes into being all lax. And I'm like, unless I didn't even, I'm just trying to hype up. You mean it like that. I'm trying to hype up coach. Right. So over under two years to be top 25. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and talk expectations.

I don't want to put my foot in my mouth. You put yourself in a cash 22 kind of. Well, because we can go win a state title. And I expect that like, hey, if you want to do this and you want to do this job for real, you got to think a long term about this to go and get a state title. Like, why not? Why not you?

Why not this squad? Why not Bontere, Missouri? Right. So that's kind of like my, you know, my advice to Hawaii. Like kind of the hype there. But as far as being out in front, we're going to whip everybody's ass. We're going to be in the top 25. We're going to be this and that.

I have no clue what kind of ball club. Because now you're playing the high school bulletin board material area. So for you, I get the line you're trying to walk right now. You were just so far on one side last week. Now I'm like, expectation of the top 25. We don't want to expect it. You're basically hit me with the Wyatt. That'd be cool.

Because with Wyatt, I'm starting with the why, the vision and everything else. Here I'm more so just talking the end result. Foundation. What I expect. Versus looking down for you too much. There is. Yeah. Let's build a good foundation.

Yeah. Let's build a good foundation. I got one here from Dick Richard. Dick Richard. Rich A. Rich underscore L.M.N on X. Hypoth with the new NFL player jersey number rules, what single digit number would Will Compton choose to wear? And if Taylor-Lwan played for a team where 77 was retired, what would be his choice?

If I had a single-digit number, probably five. Five is cool. I love five. I loved seven because of Michael Vick. And then when Tyrod Taylor was coming through the ranks and he was a dog, he was number five of Virginia Tech. So I kind of gravitated toward, oh, I kind of like five. It's kind of bigger on the jersey.

So I like five. So cool. If somebody, if I went to a different team and they had 77, what number would I wear? I would find out what their number is first. We played that game for a little bit. And I think I'd be seven figures to get that number. But if it's retired.

But if it's retired, can't do it, 69. Oh, yeah. Something about like Baktiari out there LT with the 6-9 Like there's so many ways to play with that number Have fun with it Your mullet would be there I would for sure

By the way I got a haircut tomorrow I'm thinking about I'm thinking about bringing it back Because I got a little whisk in the back here Yeah I'm thinking of keeping the whisk Keep it at the time on the sides Anyway that's not the question that took place I think we have some breaking news

We have breaking news right now Pizza boy Dave Portnoy Has tweeted at a What seems like allegedly a text message thread between him and Will Compton. I spent half the show

complimenting Nebraska and their fan base. Don't fall for clickbait. I also personally congratulated you and offered to mentor you on how to act when being in the Sweet 16. What does the tweet say?

Can you go zoom in? Because my eyes. Yep, we're going to go, boom, boom, boom. As somebody who routinely gets to the Sweet 16, I wanted to welcome you to the round. If you have any questions

on what to have expect how to handle yourself, etc. I'm here for you. Dave Portnoy's tweet. Will Compton responds. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Bro, this is crazy. The majority of our fan base

is in tears right now, tasting success like this. Okay. Driving seven hours to make it feel like Lincoln. Great fans, says Dave Portnoy. It's like giving water to a guy in the desert. Your response? You know, he's right of, I mean, the response to what?

So he will he, you called him a pizza boy. He said he just turned 67 in a prior tweet, which Jared Beeman is. Yeah, because he's going off on Lincoln. Like they got nothing out there. They got nothing to root for. Which is what you said earlier in the show. No, he's talking about like sports teams. Like there, there's nothing for them to ever root for.

So the fact that they have a team advancing this far, he's saying, yeah, it's Lincoln. There's nothing out there. They got nothing to root for. He's like with Michigan, it's like, we root for the hockey team. Do we root for the basketball team? do we root for the football team so he's kind of like you know he's doing the whole where he stabs the fan base but also gives him a hug

like I'm also root for you guys I'm gBR all the way gladiator yeah so well you know I go there goes pizza boy portnoy just turned six happy belated birthday Dave just turned 67 yesterday Dave happy belated birthday Dave happy belated birthday so you're totally fine with the tweet he said yeah it's just playing on the socials like he he can say whatever he wants He is patting, he's patting Nebraska fans on the head when he says stuff like that. All right.

Yeah. Okay. We got ourselves, uh, shh, shh, you get that one? Nash Vegas says, oh, this is at Andy Pace Musics with an X. Says, what's the fine line between a hater and passionate fan? Nothing worse than a hater. It's a great question. I would say Jeremy Klump is a hater, right?

looks for the opportunity to put you in your fan base down. Passionate fan is somebody like Jack McPherson. By the way, Mitch is like an orchestra with me right now, pointing different guys. I'm like, you are absolutely right. Guys that just love their guys, their team loses. The next day they're on suicide watch. That's a passionate fan, a passionate fan,

but rarely do you hear them speak illy of their team. Just I think a nice little line too. Critical of the team, but once it gets personal, that's when we get into a hater, hater category. Okay, bitch again with the point. Had clump, do you have any,

uh, difference between a passionate fan and a hater. Yeah, I feel like passionate fan is, they're mainly talking in the ecosystem like of their fandom for their team, whereas a hater is going beyond that scope

and just going after teams and after players and after their boys. Right, who's not their team? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's not a rival team, It's just a random team, and you're just trying to pat them on the head of B2. Dave could be considered a hater of Nebraska. But he does in such a weird way.

Yeah. What would you guys say? You guys are in all these same circles? Shurm's got like 15 burners. Shurham would be considered probably a hater at one point in his life. You know, I think there was a part in my life where I was a hater. I think, you know, when you make burners for other sports teams that you're not even truly a fan of, and you're mixing the pot and you're starting all these arguments,

you know, what is the end goal? What are we doing here? What's going on? What's the good? Chaos? I think it was just chaos. It was kind of similar to the dark night where he's talking about the butler is in Burma and they're going after the jewel thief. And they were like, you know, he was stealing all these jewels and the caravans,

but we never found the jewels until a little kid was just playing on the side of the road with a jewel the size of a grapefruit. Is that the quote? Some people just want to see the world burn. I think that's a hater. And I'm slowly making my way into a passionate fan from a darker past on Twitter. And I'm growing. I think having a child has done a lot.

No doubt for me growing as a human. Having better priorities, et cetera. But yeah, that's my breakdown. That's growth. Thank you. And overall for entertainment, I think you need them both. Got to have both. Yeah.

It may be good to have a little hater sleeping in you somewhere. Yeah. Clean take. Clean take. Thank you, Kevin's natural foods. Shout out Kevin's natural foods. Eric J. Bomber?

Bomer? Eric J. Bomber. Do you think of Blue Blood wins the National Championship next year, or do you see another Indiana winning it? It just depends, which he can. call a blue blood because the team I'm eyeing up is the same team I had up last year. And then in the Northwest.

Dan Landing. Oregon Ducks is a team that I look at. And you have Dante Moore that came back. He foregoed going to the NFL. He said, I'm going to come back for one more year. Their backup was a starter at a major, major power four school last year. And six other football players got there,

you know, you put in a little thing that says, what am I going to be in the draft? Where am I expected to go? A bunch of these guys, where day one, day two picks, they decided, I'm gonna come back for another year. Feels very much like the 2023 Michigan Wolverines, where a bunch of guys come back.

Feels like a team of destiny's type of situation. Obviously, Dan Landing friend of the show, all those, we're a big fan of Oregon. Great friend of the show. Great friend of the show. However, I could see Oregon winning it all this year. Yeah, it feels like the stars are aligned for Oregon to win a national title this year.

The fan base deserves their fan base rips. Their players are bought. in, you got to look at landing if they don't get it done this year. There, so hold on, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Landing has got, there's early whispers, and this is by Josh Pay, early whispers,

about landing having a James Franklin-esque narrative behind them. You don't want to be Danny Franklin. You don't want to be Danny Franklin. You don't want to be Danny Franklin. Winning the big one. Yeah, that'd be said. You've gotten there a couple years being highly ranked.

You got all your boys back. Great athletes, great players. You got the fan base rally. behind you, we got to get over the hump. Got to get over the hump. And it starts at the top. Starts at the top.

Who's the top? Dan Lannie. Phil Knight, then Dan Laining. Yes, absolutely. Well, Phil Knight ain't going nowhere. He ain't, well, hopefully. I'm not calling for his head. It's not calling for his head.

If I'm in a row, if Dan Laining was on the bus, I bet, hey, you got to get it right this show. And if Dan Lany, if Dan Lending is watching this episode, and he takes offense to Will Compton's comment, all that's saying to me is maybe you're not ready for the moment because you need that criticism you need that you're back against the wall type of mentality he talked about a keystone species when they played Ohio State

like are you actually going to be a keystone species or are going to be one of them bitches that go extinct that's your choice but you're the one that holds the keys to that situation yeah I don't think he's got to listen he's beating oh I he's beating Ohio State he's beaten he's won the big 10 championship against Penn State yes he hasn't

won like the bowl games and like the the ones that matter however franklin it's a bad exit this is a nasty but franklin never even won those games against the high state never even like i think he won hardly i think maybe one big 10 championship in like six tries franklin that's up here i don't think landing is anywhere close to that territory so overall i got you're sitting here from the ball busting mentality i'm calling for his head for if people were taking that serious I'm obviously not confident. Like that said to it. Hey, it had seen that backtrack.

Hey, it had seen that backtrack. It's not a backtrack. Mitch made it seem like it was real. So I'm like, okay, maybe he didn't see my laugh after I said the thing. Look, he's got a fucking cash in or cash out. Right. You know what I'm saying? Got to know one to hold them, no one to fold them.

Yeah. Got to know those things. And this year, I'm saying, push the chips in. Push them in the middle. Texas Tech for the Big 12. in the SEC I kind of like LSU I don't love LSU

because of Elaine Kiff and stuff and it could truly be a wildfire at certain points and how much as that fire get out but the RPO Charlie Weiss Jr. The way they operate, Sam Levitt comes in,

the aliens they have on both sides of the ball, their defense, if it does keep progressing the way it has the last three years, LSU. Don't be nice. That RPO,

dude, that RPO is, Texas is another one. Sleeping on Arch Maning. I don't think that, Archmanning is not the person I'm sleeping on. But I'll take...

Keep your eye on. No, I'm just kidding. Let's get to Cam Juergens, huh? Clean take! Clean take! Clean take! I'm not sleeping on Archmanning. Clean take. Shout out, Cam's natural food.

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Four-star athlete in high school. Tide-end? Asked to play center. a selfless individual, gets scouted from the one and the only Jason Kelsey to get drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in his first year becomes a Super Bowl champion and now is it not one but a two-time multiple-time pro-bore.

Let's give it up for Camp Jerg. Beef jerky. Beef jerky. The family owns a cattle farm. Boy owns his own beef jerky. Those two go the same. Do you guys use your own cows for your beef jerky? We don't.

We don't. We don't have that big of a ranch. We probably have like 40 head of cattle. Okay It's just a cow-calf operation Alright Yeah Explain to me a cow-calf operation

You just set it off the tip of your tongue Like it was nothing I don't know shit about that You You impregnate the cows How do you do that? We got a couple bowls Sometimes AI

Artificial insemination Yeah A little different Dude is it there And then you sell off the calves Every year to sail barn So you take babies from their moms Yes

And you give them to somebody else Yeah And then Hell yeah dude Hell yeah Hell yeah Right. What about that?

Wherever. Isn't the breeding process nuts? Yeah. Dude. I'll just say, I've had one experience where a family friend they were out of town, so I was in charge of helping go to the farm, do some chores, feed the cattle, like do some different things. And one morning I got there.

It was like six in the morning. And they're fucking trying to impregnate this one, you know, chick cow. And they brought this bull in. And they just, they trapped them. they like trapped the girl one and then the bull they're trying to get them all horned up and ready to go and old boy just gets up and I'm sitting there I'm young too I'm just like what the fuck is going on and they get it up like he's about to rip on get on in there and then they go in there and they slide this little condom on a flush light yeah a little flesh light on pop he's done he's already done

within seconds yeah pop it on take it out and that's how they get the that's how they got the sperm bro have you and I'm like yo that's the most fucking craziest thing have you not seen in my life Have you not seen the way they impregnate the cows, or horses after from what I've seen? Bro. So all the things you said, I grew up on like a small boarding ranch, but a couple ranches down,

they would do like, you know, the studs and all the things. They would bring the girl out, put her in a round pen, and they would take the stud out. The horse's name was gangster chick, by the way,

badass horse. Raining horse. He'd walk out. He'd start to get horned up, start slapping that thing against his belly. Then you bring him up to like this pad. It's like a fake horse. And then you bring the girl over

and he hops on the thing. you put the flesh light on. He does his business in two seconds. But to get the girl pregnant, you put this glove on that's like up to your shoulder and you go inside. And then you take like a little tube

and you put it in there and it like goes through like this layer, correct? And then you and then you syringe. You put it in there. You've basically turkey based a girl. You've seen a few videos of this, huh? No, I had to do this. Oh yeah.

I had to do this. Oh, you've been shoulders all the way in? Yes. Damn. Once. It was horrible. How was? Was it?

Kind of warm. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's the inside of an animal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course it's gonna be warm. Don't be nasty. So you don't use your jerky. Alright, we can start the rolling now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What made you want to start a jerky company? I mean, I'll started in college with NIL. I mean, NIL started my last year of college. I'm thinking name image likeness. name image likeness uh Nebraska gave us like um they wanted to make logos for us and they they asked like what I wanted for a logo whatnot and I'm like well everybody calls me beef jerky so do like a bowl beef jerky and then I ended up starting to make t-shirts because I'm thinking like nil you

need to make like a product build a brand a business and sell something but I was so wrong because these kids just get paid to play and I'm like so I built a business so it was pretty That's fucking awesome. And so I've been growing it ever since. That's the long game, though. Yeah, it's the long game. Yeah. Yeah, you're playing the long game.

But yeah, then started making jerky with a local locker in town and then ended up switching to a place out in Pennsylvania, Stony Point. And, I mean, it's the best jerky I've ever had. It's incredible. I need to come in in time. I need to ship something out here, guys. I was going to say, I was almost saying you were going to come in with a box. I think I thought they'd have gifts as well.

I thought I was expecting that. I was just to see. Yeah. I was kind of expecting it. I've been busy. I'm sorry. Busy man. Um, so did you get, did you get paid your senior year?

Yeah. How money? Yeah. Probably like, I thought I was a richest man on earth. I think I got like 30 grand my last year. No shit. I was insane. Yeah. I was just telling these guys like the, it was so different my last year of college because like I didn't need to pregame and then go to the bars because I could afford buying beers at the bar.

It was huge change. Huge. Huge. And now these guys are just getting Land Rover. and like hundreds or millions. Yeah. Bro, I was there at the wrong time. No doubt.

What was your scholarship check, your like freshman through junior year? The stipend, I don't know. It was probably like 1,200. That's pretty, it was up from like, I was 850. Yeah.

But you could make that go, like as a college camp. Well, Nebraska's cheap. Yeah. So that was a lot. I already thought I was living it. Yeah. Especially you keep costs low

and you got a few hundred, several hundred dollars left over. You feel like you're... Leftover is a crazy comment. Like you're coming up. you're coming up but then you get 30 grand like you feel like you're operating in a whole different world now these kids are getting millions millions of dollars millions and millions of dollars like backups are getting six figures yeah like out of high school i don't yeah i don't understand it yeah yeah we would do

we would get 1250 a month for our rent checks and i think 500 went to rent immediately so i had that like whatever 750 left and i think after the first weekend is like oh i got to make this $200 last the rest of the month never had new clothes never know i was like that weekend ricks all those bars just going out that's when you thought you like that first weekend of the month you feel like you're the man and then you're back to poverty in a big way itching for that scally check aging for the scully check hits when it hits yeah but this nilth i i couldn't imagine myself my my brain 18 years old making even 30 000 dollars i that would just did you see a lot of kids like freshmen coming in making a lot of money and just being like they're wild about it

No, I mean, it was just that one year. So like, hardly anybody was making money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it was just deals. I remember I had to deal with this like farm equipment place in Nebraska. They sent me a box of like T-shirts and hats and I got $100 for Instagram post. This is sick. Yeah.

This is sick. I was handing out coosies. Really? That's fucking awesome. Because then you, you, you envy the kids who got the, the Pail Grant. Get that semester. You're like, fuck, man. I thought they have $5,000.

Yeah. Remember one year I got $1,800 and I was like, both semesters. Yeah. This is a game changer. My dad Ramsey program. Yeah. Envolveloat system.

One, one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You take those summer classes so you can get those summer checks too. Yeah. Did you ever work a summer job? Like I ripped Sid Dillon every summer.

Really? Yeah, with Tim Peeper. No, I did not. Yeah. You got to get the summer jobs, bro. You were sleeping. I was trying to get a job at a golf course in town, just to get some free golf, but I was just golfing too much to do it.

What was it like for you being a tight end and going to Nebraska and being asked to play the center? That was weird. It was weird because I first get to, I mean, in college, or high school in my last year, and it'll break my leg and dislocated my ankle. So I was on crutches for like four months. And so I was probably like 2.30, 240. But then when I got to Nebraska, I was like 270. Because I was just like, I ballooned up in a few months there.

And then I get there and go through out like summer, spring ball and everything, like trying to get ready for the season. Everything's tied in. And then I think like the week before the first game, Frost sat me down. And he was like, hey, what does it mean to play for Nebraska for you? I'm like, oh, shit. I'm moving the D line or something. And then he's like, hang on, did you have a rough training camp? No, dude, I was, I was, I was bawling.

You know? Really? I mean, I wasn't catching many balls. So, like, I was just blocking dudes. And, yeah, he just, he's like, we want you at center next year. What do you think about that? I'm like, I'm going to have to get back to you on that thinking like, all right, maybe I just need to get faster.

I think two weeks later, I was like, dropped 20 pounds just like that. I'm like, maybe I just need to get a little faster. Maybe I'm not fast enough. And, like, week four. You're like, okay, I got to fucking, I got to trim some weight. I got to prove to them that no, I don't need to go to center. Yeah. And then like week four, I came in in the morning.

They're like, hey, you're in the O-line room for meetings this morning. I'm like, all right. I guess, uh, and I just went in like and just locked in and did everything I could, like trying to learn how to be an O-Lignment. And a long process. I mean, it's just so different than everything. Yeah. So it was a lot of bumps in the road getting there.

And transition started doing O-Line, but then I was still like traveling as a tight-in that first year. So I practiced with like scout team O-line. They didn't have me at center and like I couldn't snap a ball. So I would just have like a foam ball just stabbing it. And just learning how to do all that. And then I think I broke my foot like midway through the year. So now I was out the rest of the season. And so, like, I was just lifting and drinking protein just every day.

All day, every day. I think I gained, like, 40 pounds and two months just right back up, got up, like, 270. And then I was just moving, you know? And then getting ready for, like, Summer Ball, trying to learn how to be an O-Lyman. Like, dude, I couldn't get my second foot down to, like, save my life. You know, like, I was just, like, long strides everywhere I was going. So tough to, like, pick that up and figure it out. And then get to, like, summer right before.

fall camp. I break my other foot. I break both feet, dog. Yeah. And then I ended up like redoing another one. So like I didn't really practice at all, like at center. Like I was just on the sideline learning. I might have had like less than 10 healthy practices at center trying to learn. And then I started the first game of the year. Like with hardly any practice or like knowing what I'm doing. And I think we were playing Southern Alabama. And I'm still learning everything. I got no idea what it's going on.

They're just throwing me into the fire. I'm learning as I go. You're just finishing through the whistle. Yeah, I'm just playing hard. Yeah. I'm just doing everything I can that I know how to do. And I remember we go out there and like we're practicing against like a four or three, just normal stuff. And we go out there.

I didn't know at the time, but they came out in a three, three, five stack. And I go to the sideline. O line coach is like, yo, what are they in out there? What are you seeing? I'm like, I don't know, dude. dude yeah that's got to be fucking was so when they're like hey you're in the o line room like you're just walk into the building and they're hey by the way no no no you start to walk to the tide and like no no no you're gonna go this way now mentally for you how was that because i know there's a lot

of kids that had to go switch and they probably had a difficult time like mentally getting over that hurdle of this is the type of athlete i am and then when somebody has to tell you no you're actually this type of athlete it might not be what you want did it take you a moment because you you already you're already like your personality is team first type of guy. You can just tell you like an old line cat. But was there a moment for you? You were like, man, fuck this place.

Dude, for like one day until I practice. Yeah, it was quick. And then I went out and practice and like, all I did was just hit people every snap. Like I just go out, hit somebody. I'm like, went through a whole practice, get done. I'm like, man, I realized I hated running like 20, 30 yards downfield for them not throw me the ball.

I'm like, I get to hit somebody every play, and I don't have to, like, do some dumb shit and run down the field for not throw it to me. So, yeah, I'm like, this is for me. Yeah. It was quick. And since you got to essentially start week one, only having, like, less than 10 healthy practices, like, how quick was it for you to realize, like, oh, I can be good at this position? Dude, it took, it took, like, a year or two. And just learning how to snap the ball, like, it takes a while, you know, you just need a lot of repetitions. and I feel like everybody in the state of Nebraska probably hated me for a couple years.

Dude, just high right, high right, big snaps. And, you know, there was just a lot of hurdles, like, get through and, like, learn everything. But, yeah, it's just, you know, the game's so fast when you learn a new position and and you're going from high school to college. And then, you know, once you get better, everything just slows down. But, yeah, like, my last couple years there, like, I, you know, I realize this is a right decision for me, you know, I'm going to be able to go to the league and play. and, you know, not many people want to have a tight-in, like, 6-3, you know.

When did you know? You're like, oh, I can- Damn. That's a crazy phone. Look kind of nice there. Yeah. Respect the fours. Dude, something about Nebraska 44s, man. Yeah, who was that tight end?

He was nice. I'm drawing a blank on his name right now. Yeah, but he looks like a robot out there. He was a beast new from week one over and over in Cincinnati. Yeah. This year. This year. This year.

Tight-in we got this year. Linden Meyer. Yes, yes, Lyndon-Mire. Yeah. He would run the F. he would run a whole bunch of different positions. He was a big motion guy for you. Yeah.

It was awesome. So about 44 when you rocked to 5-1, too? When did you know that you had a potential to go to the league? Like I'm sure that, even that moment of realizing like, oh, coaches are kind of telling me X, Y, and Z, or damn, I didn't realize, like, I could go to the league being a center. Dude, probably my last year there. Like, you know, like, I just go throughout, like, not known, like, growing up in Nebraska. All I want to do was just be a cornhusker and play. And so, like, I'm like, that's my pinnacle.

and so like I'm like I already hit my pinnacle you know like I wasn't even thinking about the NFL I didn't watch the NFL I didn't watch the NFL growing up besides um like I was a huge fan of Sue and so like when he went to the Lions like I would watch the Lions yeah so like it was it was just Nebraska so like I watched you growing up and like all that

like that was a good defense back in the day obviously Hey how'd that feel really it feels good but fires me up here and like he grew up Nebraska and his whole because again like the walk-up program's the best like all this stuff like when you get around because I grew up in Missouri, but when you're on the team and I was there for five years and you kind of witness, whether it's the walk-on kids who earn scholarships

or just dudes that grew up there. You learn how it's just such a different, they're a different breed when it comes to thinking of Nebraska. It's like we were having, we were having an argument. He's actually plays so well into his argument too. About like, I'm saying my clean take for Kevin Zatchelchard Food, shout out Kevin Zatcheltschard Foods, but my clean take was Nebraska as far as a school,

a fan base that supports their school, there's no better fan base in the country because there's no there's no fair weather kids there's no kids that like oh if you lose it kind of doesn't ruin their week or whatever like everybody in the state of Nebraska it's all Nebraska because there's no other competing teams and you just you like embody that because you're like

thinking in your head the peak for me in my life growing up in Nebraska is playing for the fucking cornhuskers yeah and if you think about like the stadium there Memorial Stadium it's the third largest town city in on game day Like that's it you know Lincoln Omaha and then Memorial Stadium on game day So it's it's crazy I mean you just grow up like just being a husker you know everybody's a husker there

You know and you just hate you know you hate Texas you hate oklahoma iowa now like it's just kind of how you grow up i don't want to i don't get too in the weeds about will compton and your fandom of him but as a young cat watching willie see do you like remember moments of him like being like oh shit 5-1. Is he a reason why you wore 5-1? No. Is he a reason? You're moving to Senate. You're like, hey, 51. Because I'm thinking I played next to Levanti. Yeah, no doubt. Sue played in front of me. Like, we did have some goons. Yeah, but you guys, you're also part of a Nebraska team that actually earned their black shirts.

Like, oh, shit. Like, this is a squad that was kind of nice. You guys were one game away from winning the Big 12 championship. You guys were in the Bay 10 championship? Yes. You wore 5-1? I mean, when they told me that I was moving to O-line, I was 44. I'm like, all right, what's the next closest number? Like, well, you can't have 50, but you get out 51. I'm like, all right, I'll take that. Yeah. And when you were moving to, so you talk about elongated steps and snaps. What was a hard, like, if a kid sitting in front of you right now is going to the same as that situation, what is like the hardest thing in your brain to figure out as a center? Is it the overall,

like seeing safeties, seeing linebackers or is it truly footwork? I think early on it's footwork you know if you don't play o line you know you those short steps choppy like i was just always wanted to run you know tight in or whatever i played linebacker in high school and like everything's just long and then o line everything's just short abbreviated and you need to be you know proper footwork or technique and then you know that that's like the biggest change you know trying to get yourself in the right spot and i feel like i was just always out of balance but like playing hard how'd that first game against south alabama go dude i think um end of the the third quarter, full body cramps.

It was hot. It was hot. I was locking up. Yeah, because now they finally got the squad on the side where it's shaded. Mm-hmm. And, dude, I wasn't practicing. You know, like, it's, when you don't practice and you're not, like, conditioning your body because you have an injury, it's just like, you're going to cramp.

Bad. I was a terrible cramper. He has barely won that game. Damn. You know, he was part of some just rugged years, man. Like, you were with Frost, where it's like when Frost came in, it was like, Mike Riley, he fucking, he kind of took the program down south. But then Scott Frost comes in and it's like, oh, this is the next coming right here.

This is Nebraska going back. For you and your brain, looking back, did you think about that when Scott came to the squad? And you're like, all right, we're going to get this thing turned around. You were on teams that were solid teams. And what are the things you think about when looking at your era playing with Nebraska, not like making bowl games and just being in those drought years? I mean, yeah, I still love my experience, you know, playing for Nebraska, I'd be in a corner. I sure that was great. But yeah, like, coming in, I thought, I thought Frost was about to be the Messiah.

Yeah, everybody did, everybody did. And then it just didn't pan out, you know, nothing worked. You know, we lost close games and we found ways to lose more close games. And it was just like a constant deal of doing that. And, yeah, never made a bowl game. That was tough. And then go to the league and Super Bowl first year and win in third. Yeah. You know, it's just crazy. Yeah, fine. I don't know all those different. We were kind of joking about it before we started the pod,

but when I had to just spins on myself and the we are the greatest three-win team of all time, like that year it felt like every game you guys fucking lost was within reach. It was all single digits. But there was fucking, we hit the onside kick over in the international soil in Ireland. Yeah. Against Northwestern. Ohio State, you got them. Just couldn't do it.

Dude, and it's like one of those games or that, that season is a season that's bled into what it's been six years since then, five years since then. And even this year, we're flying back from the Red River rivalry. And we're watching Nebraska versus Maryland. And Nebraska actually came back on a two-minute drill and won the game because it was Emma Johnson. Yeah, Emma Johnson. He had a big run. And Will's like losing his mind on the plane. We're like losing service as we're like about to land.

So he watches the last couple of snaps and he's like, lose him like, dude, hey, you guys just beat me. Maryland. Like what he's like, you don't understand. Like for so long we've been a team that figures out, figures out ways to fuck these games up. And this is like the hurdle, the next possible hurdle for Nebraska. Yeah. Do you, are you, so we talked about a little bit, clearly like the most, like he's a top

5% fan. Like he's the guy who's got the corn in the face. How in the weeds are you in it now being in the league? Like, do you watch every game still? Do you try to catch every game? Do you keep up with the roster? Yeah, I try to watch everything. I mean, it's hard to keep up with everyone just because, I mean,

I mean, it's a revolving door. I mean, I come back, like, my first year and knew most of the people. Come back second year. It's like, dude, I know no one here. That's just crazy because- I'd be so nuts. I feel like it's obviously the world now with NIL. But even like when I got done, you had your four years that I would come back and kind

of know some guys because the whole team's kind of staying together. You know the freshman that's now a senior and kind of keep tabs on guys. Yeah, I remember him being in the locker room and he blows up to be a stud, whatever the case may be. But now with NIL, just hearing the two-year turnaround, like, I'm sure. It's way different every time you go back. Yeah. Now it's, do you, do you, is there any, are there guys that are still on the team?

I'm sure some Nebraska boys. That I played with. Yeah, that you played with. Maybe like one. That's like an assistant O-line GM. Yeah. What was your last year? 22.

Oh, 22. Okay, yeah. So you're pretty much on. Man, I can't believe it's just fucking time flies. Time really does fly. And it sucks too because I remember like the first couple years going back to Ann Arbor and being able to see like my boys. And they'd be like, you know, another year in the program.

We get to check in with them. But with the NIL, the way there's so much turnover, it had to kind of suck being like the year two. Like, oh, I fucking know nobody here. It's all a bunch of different guys. And now he goes back and it's a completely different facility. Yeah, the facility is nice. Bro.

Insane. Insane. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah. It's probably number one right now. Oh, it's like it's up there. But how much did they pay for that new facility? It had have been like $250 million.

It's just, it's incredible. You walk back because you see all the old locker rooms and everything else and you're just like, man, if you guys only knew these locker rooms. But guys just don't even know that anymore. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Time's over. But now it's like you don't even need to have nice facilities. You know, it's like the NFL game.

You know, you don't need that because you're just paying the players. Right. Because they started to build that and buy into it right before NIL started. So we're kind of like one of the last ones that just poured everything into facilities instead of NIL money. Well, Oregon's in the middle of doing a $500 million renovation right now. Yeah, because they've, they under, you know, some people are like, okay, this game's going to be pouring money into NIL. We were already developing and starting the structure of the new building. So all the money had to go into building the new facilities.

Which kind of hurt NIL a little bit. Yeah, hurts on that front end. How much of a shock for you, because I don't know the Eagles, how their facilities really are. I thought you guys practice field were nice. But when I went from Michigan, who like had great facilities at the time to the Tennessee Titans, it was like, I walk in. I'm like, this feels like juco, as far as like facilities go. Did you have the same shock value when you went to? I'm like, whoa, this is the only cold tub we have?

Yeah, crazy. And they're like, how big is you? No, we have one that we bring in the summer and we just, you know, it's just outside. I'm like, oh, okay. Just tubs. Just like big plastic, like, tractor supply tubs everywhere. It's nuts, dude, to see the difference in like NFL versus college and like how like the courting process goes or anything.

Like, once they pick you, they're like, you're here. Like, you can't go anywhere. Yeah. So the facilities just aren't what they were. How sick was it getting drafted in the third round? Just seeing your name get called, go across the bottom of the ticker. As a Nebraska boy growing up, just wanted to play for Nebraska. What in the third round?

Oh, second round. That's, no disrespect. Day two guy. No disrespect. Early day two. Early day two. But what was that like? It was just, you know, crazy.

You know, I never, growing up, I never thought I was going to go to the NFL and, like, being in the position and just, you know, know, just seeing how much I've been able to do, you know, not just for me, but like my family, you know, like all the experiences, you know, my parents get to fly to all these games and see all these stadiums and everything that, you know, they get to experience because of me. Like, it's, it's been a crazy wild ride, you know, getting to play a sport for a job. It's just, you know, it's a dream come true. When did you find out that Jason Kelsey was a person that was like, this is the guy that needs to replace me when I retire? I mean, I did a top 30 visit there. I, you know, I met with him and the O-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-C coach and, like, everybody in the building.

But, yeah, I met him pretty early on and just, you know, I've had a great bond with him. I mean, he's just, he's a man there and just getting to learn from him and experience, like, how everything operates. And, you know, he's been there forever. And so, getting to take over that role. And then, like, in the first year, getting to take over the center role, we went a Super Bowl. And we rushed for 2,000 yards and, like, have an unreal season. Like, it's just, it's crazy. And then, like, the year before, like, speaking of, like, change the positions, like, they put me a guard.

I was playing right guard for a year, a year before I got to center. And so just constantly just trying new things and just whatever for the team. And, you know, so it's just been, it's been an awesome ride with the Eagles so far. You know, I love it there. It's like they say about, like, every organization is different, but the Eagles really run their organization right. You know, good ownership, everything from the top down. It's just, it's done right. and you know that's all I know so far so then when guys come from other teams and then come in they're like man it's different you know and so it's cool hearing that yeah everything's done right except for offensive play calling

whoa was that what we can't have fine we got the starting center we can't he didn't call the plays he didn't call the plays no that was fucked up I'm sorry that was fucked up how was the experience with the fan base dude you go from a one They are in intense. At this moment is murdering me. I mean, Nebraska is like diehard, but like, man, if you lose a game, like, their, their week is done. Like, they're just angry to everybody, their family, their friends, like, they're just pissed. You know, it's just how it is.

But, like, they're diehards, man. I mean, it's cool. Anywhere you go, you're going to, you're just going to see a fan, like, everywhere around there. It's just eagles. And it's just, it's weird because not that. many like professional like sports towns are so like it feels like a small town vibe where like you know your high school team's going to the state playoffs and the whole team or the whole town like shuts

down and goes there it's like that's that but it's like philly with millions of people you know it's like the flyers the sixers you know all the sports teams there they love every single one and it's just it's nuts you know the the buy-in and you know uh my first year there I remember I went to a World Series game when they made it. And I'm at the game. I'm sitting next to some people. And like, I'm talking to them. And, you know, they're from Philly.

They're huge fans. And they're like, yeah, we had to take on another mortgage of the house just to buy these tickets. And, you know, like, never miss the Super Bowl. I'm like, that's how they are. You know, they will go bankrupt just to get to a game. Yeah, that is nuts. That is wild. Greasing the polls are the craziest fan base.

Yeah. Like, they love you so passionate. and they'll also come for the jugular when things aren't going. Right. How hard is it not to listen to that noise? Because there, I mean, there's clips all the times of you guys running into halftime and it's not going the way the fans want. So they're booing the team.

As you come in, you just attribute that to like, yeah, they're insane. And they love their fan base that much. But like, if you go from being from Nebraska, don't know what town you grew up in, but you go to Lincoln. That's probably a little bit of a culture shock to you, to all those people. And then you're going to a major city that is obsessed with a fan base. Like, how hard was that for you from a mental standpoint to ignore all that noise?

Dude, very tough. I mean, it's just, it's hard not to hear it, especially when it's all over social media and in your face and during the game when we're like winning and we're still getting booed. Yeah. You know, and they will boo the shit out of you

but they will not let another team boo you. You know, they will fight that person. But like 10 minutes later, they'll boo the own team, you know? Like, hey, I can call my brother gay, but if you call them gay, I'm gonna fucking beat you. Yeah, like I'll kill you. So that's just how it rolls. But like I didn't, I didn't realize going to, like, a big city.

It was just going to be that, like, diehard fan base, which is cool. You know, if you go playing California, like, nobody cares about sports. No, no, no, no. The farther west you go, the less, the less they care about the sports teams. I grew up in Arizona. It's like, no one cared about the Cardinals until, like, 2008 when went to the Super Bowl. And all of a sudden, everybody's got a fucking Cardinals, T-Share I'm thinking, y'all don't give a shit about this.

I've never heard about. Our teams called the Cardinals? Yeah, exactly. I know what Larry Fitzgerald is, and that's literally it. literally yeah the fan base is nuts dude what is um who who's your online coach again is the only he just stepped down uh coach cooper but it was jeff sattlin dude you know that's all i yeah and he is one of the best coaches of all time what was he's a legend what was relationship like what's he like in the meeting room man he is intense is he just you know he's he's he's football football you know you're

you're gonna talk ball and he's gonna you know he's gonna harp on you know there's a certain way to do things and you're going to he's going to keep coaching you and keep coaching you until you do it right and it just everybody gets better and you know and the cool thing about him like he's he's going to coach um like the last player like scout team guy just as hard he's going to coach starters and he's just intense with everybody and it just makes for environment for the O line just like all group together and you know work on you know our skills and get get better together you know because It's rough in there some days. You know, you're watching film and, you know, you'll have some rough days.

Yeah. And, you know, it's all about accountability. What's, um, with like walking into that room. Yeah, Jason Kelsey, myelotta, yeah, Lane Johnson. Like, there's a, you have, I mean, the whole entire roster is just complete star power. But was there somebody specifically that you were kind of starstruck about? Like, had a hard time coming around, calling him Mr. Johnson. I mean.

Mr. Kelsey. Starstruck, but like, dude, I just followed Lane around. I'm like, hey, I'm going to see what Lane's doing and just try to do what he does. Put the shit on your toes, walk around. Dude, he does everything. I mean, he's got so many modalities and tools and like the way he takes care of his body,

it's incredible. You know, I'm just trying to like emulate and do a little bit of that. Just trying to get better because he's constantly getting better. But like he also can't sit down and watch a movie. Like he's just going to be stretching, just nonstop, just doing stuff, getting better. Dude, his asses is so crazy. He ran a 4-7. Yeah, he was a tight-in, wasn't he?

Yeah. Tide-in went to Oklahoma. What was Jason before he moved to O-Lyne? Was he? He was a D-Line. Oh, he's a D-Line. Yeah. Linebacker?

And Lane was a quarterback at Juko. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Because then when he went to Oklahoma, he was a tight-in at first, and then that's when he moved to tackle. My life played rugby. Yeah, nothing but athletes across the filial line. A lot is so fucking big too.

Massive. Yeah. Is your guys his new position coach? Was he in the room? Was he part of the same? No, I haven't met him yet. Oh, you have? What did he come from?

He was Vikings last year. Vikings. Okay. O'Connell. I love O'Connell. O'Connell rips, dude. West Phillips. Why'd you cut your hair?

Why'd you do that? Look at that. I can get it back. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a great head of hair, but was there a reason behind that? Dude, I've never had long hair. I didn't even know my hair was curly until I grew it. out. I don't know. I just didn't want to have it forever. Yeah. I'll come back eventually.

Yeah. How was the, how was the year this year? You guys had a lot of, there's a lot of headlines, a lot of, it seemed like turmoil. Um, coming off of last year, would you guys do the year before? They won the Super Bowl. Won the Super Bowl. That's right. Yeah. But having a down year like you guys had, like, what was it like inside the building again, like going off of all the noise that kind of seeps in, all the things that kind of get out, people write stories about everything. Noise from us too. Oh, yeah. There's fans.

We ask people to give you questions and they're like, yeah, and they're like, why are you coming on the show? Because we hated on the Eagles so much this past year. But you're bro. You guys hate us? No, no, no, no. We don't hate you at all.

No hate you guys at all. A lot of people do hate us. Dude, here's the thing. You know, it's pretty common. Yeah. What I don't understand is how you have that many athletes. How many people like, like the common fan will look at the Eagles roster and be like, I know most of these guys.

So you just know you guys are just riddled with star power. And I watch the games and it's like, what are we doing? Some of these things are just like, I don't understand the blocking concepts. I don't understand how we're not getting Sequin Barclay going. Like, okay, the perimeter play works and you guys get six yards, but then you go between the tackles and you're averaging like two yards there. So why not just keep going the perimeter? AJ's running basic route concepts.

It's just, that's the confusing part to me. When you're like, you've been in the game long, like you can kind of watch a game unfold and be like all right they're doing this is their game plan when it's not working why doesn't it change that's the frustrating part because you watch eagles and clump he's a sick oh eagles fan and you can't sit there and you're like bro what are you all doing because you guys could have won it this year it just felt like it just never got going on offense no i just feel like we never did you know and that was the frustrating part you know you feel like you're doing so much and like the expectations are so high you know you're in the building and like just you know kind of feels brutal or a little miserable

at times and you know guys are going through and the expectations are ridiculous and all the outside noise you feel everything and the pressure and you know when you never get rolling and you're just expecting something to happen and you're doing everything you think is right and just never happens it's just it is frustrating it was it was a brutal year yeah it's fucking hard it's hard to see what was it like with a jay j's the man dude a j is the man everybody loves jay so you getting traded I don't know, dude I'm not the GM here I hope not

I hope not because I mean AJ is such a beast dude He's a stunt Transformer out there Yeah Built like a fucking action figure I mean we have some

Just insane talent on our team Like like I came in I'm like man Lane Johnson is the best Football player I've ever seen And then like the next practice I'd see AJ do so I'm like Man AJ might be the best football player

I've ever seen And then Sequin jumps over a dude I'm like, man, Sequin's up there too. Yeah. Your whole team is like a team of all-stars. It's crazy. Jalen Carter is just a freak, dude. He's so good.

Damn, what was your reaction when he got kicked out of the first game? When him and Dak, they didn't catch Dak. They caught Jalen. But I'm sure you're sitting there. Jack was sneaky with it. He was sneaky about it. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man.

I'm just like, we haven't even got to play in yet. Like, we haven't got to play. Yeah, that's a busy. That was the first game, right? First game. First game. Thursday night football. And yeah, our fullback, Ben Ventumer and tore his knee on the first kickoff.

Yeah. And then Jalen Carter gets tossed out. I'm like, rough two plays there. Jalen seems like you can't, you don't want to piss off a practice. No, I mean, he's just, he can do anything to you. You know, he's just a beast. Yeah, I have empathy for you because there's a lot of questions that he's just going to sit there. And you're thinking to yourself like, what's Sirion going to put on the big screen in the team room after this comes.

out. Yeah. So I'm sorry. But hey, Seriano, we got to get it fixed. We got to get fixed. Talk to me about Big Dom. Is he not, he seems like an absolute pillar foundational guy in the Eagles organization. Is he what I perceive him to be? Yeah. And, and whatever more. Like, he's the man. I mean, that, that place falls apart if we don't have him. No doubt. I mean, the, the things he does for everyone, you know, it's just, it's hard to put that into work. words or whatever like he he keeps that team afloat you know he does you know anything and everything for everybody in that building and you know it's just simple things like i'll just like hey dom um i need to get a driver's license can you like help me out i was like yeah yeah come in tomorrow

i'll drive you there and then drives you to like some place i can get a driver's license and we're like in an island there in like five minutes i'm like why is that the easiest thing i've ever done i just got a real driver's license that took five minutes i'm like bro who do you he just he has a guy he knows everybody he knows everybody he does he always has it seems like he's got he's the most connected cat in the league yeah he's got he's got ties for sure you has to right yeah yeah yeah yeah but like the appropriate amount of ties yeah yeah to where there's some mystery to him right like yeah that's all there but you don't you don't ask questions if there's like something big that goes down in philly and it becomes like news dom knew about it three days before yeah yeah yeah that's it he didn't

his fingerprints on it yeah but he knows about everything that takes place in that town and he just seems like a guy too it's like from the movie the town where he's like who's car we take it yeah exactly he's got and ask questions let's go handle yeah is uh seriani what's his what's his presence like before game team meetings does he have like that good leadership coach type of mentality yeah he just brings so much energy and he's very consistent with his message you know it's you're going to get the same guy every time and he's just consistent with the team and i mean that's kind of what you need out of the head guy you know you want to have the same message and you know the same thing going into the game but then like when game hits I mean intense

look at that intense dude the Super Bowl when he had he was hand over his heart during the national anthem and it's not like a too dramatic of a cry but there's just tears going down his cheeks shit juiced me up just seeing that I'm like this guy fucking loves America and ball he's just all about it right now yeah what else you got well singing how do we ask him about are there internal issues going on philly there's always Hey, how about March Madness? Yeah.

The basketball Are you kidding me? Dude, I was hoping just like, I mean, growing up in the Brassel I was a huge Husker fan

like I was a big baller growing up and like go to all the Husker games. We've been terrible forever and now it's just like we're going to win it this year. Yeah, a few good years in a row

like Tomenaga a couple years ago just knocking down threes now you got the prices right, draining three set a record this year. The fact that they've gotten to the Sweet 16 and this is the first time the program's history.

Like when we won against Troy and that being the first win, we were the last power four team to get a win in March Madness. Like that is,

that's insane. Yeah. I mean, hey, you guys, we've never lost in round 32. We're never lost in the Sweet 16, so I'm feeling good

about this game going in. And we got the Iowa Hawkeyes. Yeah. The idiots out wandering around. I owe the world at apology. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be, you couldn't paint this picture any better. Nebraska versus Iowa,

basketball. Like, it feels like, you know, you think of, like, with Iowa and Nebraska. Pull the brackets up, sure. Wrestling, the physical sports. You're not assuming that we're going to be meeting in the Sweet 16 one day. But, man. Our squad, I mean, everybody just knows their role and they stick to it. You know, nobody's doing too much. Yeah. And everybody plays hard. Sam Hoiberg. Like, dude, I remember watching, like seeing him in high school, not thinking he was going to be on Nebraska's team. And like, dude, just how much growth he's had and the rest of the team. Like, it's just cool to see.

Really cool to see. And now we get to play Iowa. I mean, dream come true. And play Iowa and beat them to go to lead eight. Like, I was hoping they were going to win. And we played them a couple times this year. We lost one on purpose because it's impossible to beat a team three times. Yeah.

Obviously, we're ready for this. Heavy play. That's a heady play. That's how you need that, yeah, that's just understanding a 30,000 foot view. Could you imagine a Nebraska versus Michigan National Championship? Could you imagine that taking place? Especially with our full squad. Yeah, didn't have Frager the first time last time.

Oh, yeah, okay. Frager's nice. I don't know who that is. First guy off the bench. Six man of the year. Yeah. Six man of the year. Yeah.

Go ahead, Shergans. Sherman Young with Bustam with the Boys. I wanted to toss it up to, you on your thoughts on the hot guys. I know that there's a lot of hate for the hot guys on this bus. What's been your personal experience with them? I mean, yeah, I mean, since we got to the Big Ten, I guess that's our new rival. But I kind of grew up in the hate Oklahoma and Texas.

Yeah. They just think we got better corn than we do, which is kind of fucked up. I mean, just keep it simple. I know. And it sucks when he's like, I guess like, that's a. rival it just doesn't. That's how you know it's not a real like that's not I know we got a win in football yeah but I'm just talking about in general like I didn't beat them so it's like it's hard to say like we hate like you want universally these are the teams we hate no matter what no matter what

Michigan State Ohio State like I hate them I respect Ohio State though it hasn't made it to the grass yet because again it's been a lopsided last decade it's more of a very real thing inside of households but now that we're getting in basketball ball they've all like our wrestling programs have always been solid i was always been elite an elite wrestling program um we're better now but it just it hasn't made its way under the grass yet it's got to make its way under the grass

yeah i just want i want you guys to feel what that rivalry's like i want you guys to feel hatred in your blood when it comes to iowa nebraska like you could tell but you everyone's kind of bouncing around getting around the bush a little bit but i want to see Nebraska fans and iowa fans truly hate each other that you guys deserve it's kind of hard to both states got some just quality people good people they don't they don't have that much hate in their heart yeah get some like also what people

say about Nebraska's fan base it's the nicest fan base that is extremely true so there's just a lot of quality like the rivalry feel is there but it's not like the hatred turmoil like we need these people to die there's been a there's been a change since matt rules got there what he said Nebraska nice every day except for Saturday in the fall. Like Nebraska, like I remember for the Boston Bowl when we went up there with September 20th. We went there at the fan base or the student section. I walked by it without you.

And one guy called my name. And in unison, they just started saying, fuck you and yelling at me. Right. And I'm smiling to myself like, look at them. They're really, they're really growing. They're really starting to understand like there's an expectation again. Well, Rule has a lot of Philly guys on staff. So, you know, some of that.

some of that in your face getting through the team you know it's gonna start getting through what's your expectation with them this year I mean I kind of just focused on March Madness right now one game at a time yeah one game at a time I won Thursday

I can't wait till Thursday is this next year yeah keeps keep scrolling because I know that we got a tough schedule it's kind of a gauntlet you guys got a little bush the over under right now is five and a half wins on the season five and a half man all right yeah i mean but you see we got we got indiana Oregon Ohio state

Iowa I think Michigan state's gonna be sneaky next year and I hate I hate saying that I'm gonna Indiana like in college I'm like man we weren't like world beaters but when we went to Indiana you know a lot of times we felt like it yeah now it's just like they're killing everybody that's the most insane turnaround insane turnaround it almost feels like it's not possible yeah almost feels like something happened You know, but they want it. They want it all.

Yeah, like something could have and that we'll never learn about. Right. It almost feels like there's like an investor or like an alumni guy that like hacked into a system. Yeah. Just crazy. Who knows, man. Right. But their roster was so old.

So old. I think I saw some where. A lot of vets on the squad. Yeah, the average age of their roster was like more than the Packers. Yeah. Yeah. And like from what I've heard or in red, like he did they don't practice longer than like an hour. in 30 minutes.

Ever. Ever. Yeah. Yeah, because they're so old. You got to keep them off the, off the turf for a little bit. It is interesting. The Signetti,

I would love to have him on this podcast, man, because the way they operate. He seems so interesting. Dude, and the fundamentals they play with, too, like, you just respect that ball. Like, there was nothing flashy

with what they did. Like, clearly Mendoza, he'll be the first overall pick, and he's incredible. But, like, their game was RPO slants and Verts with back shoulder throws.

Like, and that's, kind of it. I mean, they would have screens. They would have different route concepts, but that was like the base of all their offense. And then you watching the defense side of the ball, like everybody had,

yeah, everybody had it was a gap sound, in the right gaps, handled themselves. Corners were jumping, you know, hitch routes on the first play of the game in the semifinals. It's just, it's impressive. It is, yeah, it's truly impressive to watch them do their thing.

And I love coaches that, like coaches, personalities, whatever, that just call their shot. and they fucking do it. Like his first press conference is like, Google me, I win. And everyone's like, okay, kind of corny. But now it's like part of every single highlight. Yeah, 10 the first year.

90 the next. Like he's lost two games in two years. Just fucking crazy. I wonder what they'll do this year. They got what, Josh Hooker this year. Is that his name? Josh Hoover. TCU.

Hoover? Josh Hoover. And what do they run the most of? TCU. They were in the second most RPO's last year. who ran the most Indiana. So those kids are already coming into a system that he knows. So they could just fucking do it again.

Big Ten's tough though. It's hard to get out. Big Ten's the best football conference for sure. Yeah. Might be the, I think. Definitely basketball right now. Might be the best sports conference. Mm-hmm.

I mean. Oh, yeah. I legitimately like football. Yep. Basketball. We got six in the sweet. We got six. Six in the sweet 16.

Wrestling. Wrestling is not even close. Hockey. Hockey. Not even. close. We don't have a hockey team, do we? No.

Which is crazy. We got a semi- pro. Yeah, that's what they are. You ever go to the Stars games? I went to one. A lot of fun. A lot of fun.

Hockey's so much fun to watch, dude. Yeah. It is my favorite sport to watch live. I think it's a blast. We got bowling. I don't know. UFC live. Yeah.

No, yeah, you're right. You're right about that. Or you ever gotten in like a bare knuckle fight? I never got to that, no. Like an underground? Some shit you go with Dom. So fun. I mean, you.

That's what you do with Dom. He's got the under you get a little too close to the ring. Like you might get hit with some blood. Are you like that? Yeah. Dude. Where'd you go to a bare knuckle fight at? Dude, they had one in Philly.

They had one in Nebraska when I was back. Like that is probably the most fun I've had. Like being close to a ring and you hear somebody's jaw get broken, it's just the most intense thing of all time. And you just leave there and you just juice for like hours. Yeah, it does have that kind of effect on you. I've never been to bear a bear number. but UFC I've been to over a dozen now

and every single time it's like electric. It's just tough going to UFC in person because you're waiting so long in between fights. True. And then everybody, the best part about going to a UFC fight isn't watching the fights there. It's watching the fights like in the stands

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40% alcohol per volume, 2026, James B. Beam Distilling Co. Claremont, Kentucky. Let's get back to this episode. What's your take on the White House fight? You fired up about that? Dude, that would be sick. I don't know why we haven't been doing that.

I think I saw a clip of Rogan kind of trashed in a little bit. He had some good points. Like, it's outside during summer. What if it rains? What if it? Like, there's so many, like, variables. Like, even if it's, like, hot. You think they were thinking about that in the Roman Coliseum back in the day?

Like, oh, if it rains, we better cancel it and then get all the horses and buggies another day like what do we... Amen dude Yeah That's a clean take That's a clean take

God he kind of came out of nowhere with that too He saw the clip And he's like Romans He's like the fucking Coliseum And Romanes dude What else we got dude What's your thought on the war

Dude How about Iran? Yeah bring it back I'm so excited for Thursday Nice out Yeah Yeah just a hug Oscar's playing Iowa.

Oh, dude. How's your back? Dude, it's getting better every day. I mean, it's tough that Super Bowl we won. I mean, I herniated, I had a herniated disc, and then right for the playoffs, my disc broke off and got wrapped around my sciatic nerve. So it was just like, suffocating my leg. It was hard to walk.

I don't know how I was playing. Like, it was easily the worst month of my life, but then also, like, kind of the best month in my life because we won the Super Bowl. But it was just miserable, dude. Just the pain and then getting surgery and like trying to get back for the next year. And you know, it's always tough having a surgery in the offseason. But when you have back surgery, it is tough. Like it takes a good year to come back from that.

And like I'm starting to feel really good. But dude, just all year just trying to get through that. Just a tough year with the back. But it's feeling so much better. When you go through injuries like that, do you like, does there like a reevaluation process that takes place? because I'm sure like when you made it to the league second round, you're like, I want to play X amount of years.

You have like these new goals that you've set for yourself since you've beaten this Nebraska goal. When you have injuries like that, do you rework it, rethink it? You start to think to yourself, hey, the older I get, the more ailments I'm going to have. Does that ever cross your mind? A little bit. And you know, when you get injured,

you just go through the rehab and recovery process. And like, you've got to fall in love with that, you know, going into the training room when you can't do anything, just like, all right, let's attack the day. day. Let's try to whatever we're doing today. Let's do everything we can and, you know, get a little bit better. And the rehab process is brutal, you know, and you guys know, you've had so many injuries when you're going through and you're thinking, you know, you're in pain. You can't walk or whatever. Well, I didn't get back to. Yeah, but you're going to get back. You got to love the, the process of it. And I've had some many injuries, you know, it just comes with it. I think throughout high school and college, I broke a bone in October. Like, every year for like six straight years. Jesus, spooktober.

Yeah, spooktober. Spooktober. Spooky. Yeah, spooky bone breaks every year. Crazy. Is it always your lower limbs? Like, how many bones have you, like, how many surgeries have you had? Let's start there. I think like six or seven.

Okay. Which isn't terrible right now. Nothing major. Yeah. Back, maybe major leg, but like, otherwise just small things. What's that back rehab look like? I've never, like Dennis Kelly? It's pretty much just getting your core back.

You know, strengthening the core, getting your hips mobile and like everything that goes along with that. But like nerves take forever to heal, you know, and it just takes a while. And then, you know, you don't have time in football, you know, and you're just going out there and playing. It doesn't matter what percent you're at when you're on the field. Like, whatever you are at is you're 100 percent at that point. Like the film is the film. Yeah. How in the fuck did you get back for the Super Bowl?

Dude, it was impossible. It was, I remember like the NFC championship game. like trying to get ready for that game and every every day it was it was brutal i mean going out for warmups for the game like i was just trying to run around and block i'm like yo i can't feel my leg right now kept falling and i'm like all right like i i'll be suited up and ready but i don't know i don't know guys and i'll be ready on the sideline if you need me right but so i didn't start that game and then we had another guy laying in and go down in that game and i'm like all right I'll play the second half.

It was just like a tag team effort. Just, you know, all right. I'm pretty bad, but I don't think I'm that bad right now. Like, I can play the second half. Yeah. And just going out there and then get a, get an epidural shot going into the Super Bowl. And hopefully it's just like a band-aid. You know, you're just trying to like get through.

What is the epidural like from a strength standpoint? I got one in my neck, like I think a year two or year three because I kept getting stingers. But there was a moment, like, I think it was like week seven. I couldn't take a 25-pound plate and lift it. over my head and they're like you go you'd be all right you're going to go do your thing like did you like lose strength because essentially an epidural shuts down the nerve correct yeah it just helps calm down the nerve and then inflammation in that area but yeah like when you can't feel your leg you don't have strength in your leg right you know this is crazy oh like my calf like that nerve

goes all the way down your leg and I remember like my calf felt like I I tore my calf like and it's fine it's just a nerve I didn't tear anything but dude every day it'd be something new and you're just like trying to get out of bed and block to facility. I'm just like sitting on these like physio balls because I can't sit on a chair. It's just like miserable. But then you get through it and you know, you have a good perspective. You know, when you get injured, you're like, man, when I get healthy, like I'm going to remember like how it feels. Yeah.

It's yeah, the injury thing. Like even when you like hurt your finger, it's like something so small, but you're like, man, once this finger's healed, I'm going to never take my fingers for granted. You have like this due thought of like it's like when you get sick. You're like, I'm never not washing my hands again. And then like your three months removed. You're like, yeah, I don't want to wash my hands this time. So yeah, it's like a renewed feeling of like, fuck, I need this. The fingers suck, dude.

Fingers are awful. Like you can jam a finger and you swear it's broke. Yeah. And you're like, all right, yeah, we're going to have to x-ray this. And you x-ray is like, you sure it's not broke. It feels pretty broke right now. You're like trying to close your, dude. And anytime you like jam a finger, like the accuracy of,

your punch, like subconsciously is just not where it needs to be because your brain is like, we got to protect whatever that is. I broke this one in camp. And for the next like two weeks, like my right hand, wherever I put it, it was like, that's not where it's supposed to go. It would just be a little wider. I'd let him in my chest a little bit. It's just, yeah, the fingers are awful.

Oh, in high school, I had this one. I, uh, I broke it. I didn't know I broke at the time when my fingers like pointing straight out and I go to the sideline like, hey, I think I'd just dislocated my finger. I think I can just pop it back. And so, like, I just pulled it, popped back in the place, taped it up. And I got an x-ray the next day. And it was just broke all the way through.

No shit. I don't know if I did that or that happened. But, yeah, I had to get four pins put in there. I'm like, yeah, probably popping it back into place. It wasn't the joint. Right. Yeah. But what a badass story to have.

Yeah. No, I went back in there. We won the game. It was looking right. I moved your back straight ahead. I remember one time, it was when I was with Oakland, I got my thumb caught in a helmet. And it just fucked my, it just fucked my thumb up, dude.

It was brutal to have for the rest of the year. It's just a, it's like, you're playing on it. But it never like gets better because you're having to practice and operate on it every day. Right. You know what I mean? It's not like one of those injuries where you're just like, you can't be like a candy ass. Can't rest. You can't do.

Yeah. But it fucking hurts. Bro, even like the first couple of days of camp when like the palms just like from hitting chest plates, you're like, fuck them. I don't want to do this right now. You have like, it has like callous over. And nothing pisses you off more than going to a walk. through and then having like a scout team guy like put his hands up somewhere and then it jams your

finger and a walk through and your wrist oh my god what are you doing yeah i taped yeah that shit is so frustrating but yeah the huskers iowa jesus christ man yeah you guys are playing we're watching it what time is it at uh i don't know what time it probably prime time yeah it's got to be got to be prime time for all the Midwest, dude. What's, um, um, Mitch just asked him what his favorite cheese steak spot was. There's so many.

Like literally every block there's one. Uh, I like John's roast, roast pork. That's, that's a good spot. Angelo's is really good for a chicken. But everybody knows how to do it there.

They're all delicious. But like, if you say you like a spot, then somebody's going to be pissed, but like, dude, you haven't had my spot over. wherever and per capita they got i mean every street's got a freaking cheese sick spot it's crazy

we have some questions from fans here you want to zoom in on one there no estoddard favorite spot to eat lincoln um have you had the watering hole oh have i had the best wings yeah incredible old bay wings delicious best wings ever here we go in lincoln that i've had okay it does great spot okay great spot. All right. Because they have a couple locations. They still have that second one off of Rosa Parks. Yeah, they got a couple of that.

I lived over by the one that, uh, where you take Rosa Parks and I live closer there. So we'd always hit that spot, dude. Watering hole is it, is a juicy one. You never took me to Watering Hole. Was anybody here at the watering hole? Maybe Jack. Which one? I know JP was there.

Bro, the first time. Because we went to the one downtown. I like took them with the one downtown. Like, all right, let's hit the water. Yeah. You guys love the watering hole. When we first did our first spring tour, which is where we'd go to different. from colleges and stuff like that.

I like, we went to Ann Arbor and there's like, we'll go to Benis. This is the breakfast spot we go to. You can go to, you know, Mr. Spots, all these places that are like, this is Ann Arbor food. Like if you're going to go to Michigan, you want to feel it. This is like the places we're going to go. So a couple weeks later, we go to Nebraska. I'm fired up.

I'm like, I gotta, I got to show you this breakfast spot. It's going to be fired. I'm like, I can't wait because I'm thinking Lincoln, Nebraska. He's happened it up too much. Highway D? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What's what are you talking about? No, no, brother, he took me to the village inn.

Oh, no. We pull it, we pull in. I'm thinking to myself, like, this kind of looks familiar. And I walk in and there's like legit old people on like oxygen tanks and just like, like rotating pies. And I'm looking at all right. Bro, we have, we have these in Arizona. Like I, like I, like everywhere. But Village Inn's like a like an I hop essentially.

The lesser eye hop. It was popping. Bro. We spent, no, it was not popping. It has never been popping. Because it was just us, right? Was it just us? Because the boys were setting like a,

maybe I think a Scott Frost podcast. Yeah, it was me. We had to have Scott. So it was just us. We're grabbing breakfast and we are, I can't stop laughing. We had a lot of gas in our system once we walked in. Fucking village in.

I'm like, show me the spots. I look over and see this old guy. He's the food his mouth that he misses and falls. He's got the wires in his nose. There's like weird elevator music playing in there. I'm thinking like, where the fuck did you take me? These pies that are three days old.

She's kind of rotating. in the corner gas back when I was in school bro I also took I also took them to a virginia's Virginia's their trailer spot right Virginia's cafe we always went to highway diner that was a good spot I did you know your town

it's the spot what's the sandwich spot that's like kind of in like right across the highway from Memorial and it's in that cool little like lead bellies yeah that spot's good they saw them they got this burger there you put it like two

cinnamon rolls burger and then just chili on top bro that's what blew my mind because i do i do chili with peanut butter sandwiches but going to nebraska when you go to these chili cookoffs and everything else like it's all or the competitions it's always chili with cinnamon rolls which blew my mind i mean i grew up like every like in school growing up like we always had chili and cinnamon roll day everybody was fired up for it i thought it was like everywhere is having chili and cinnamon rolls and that's what i thought with peanut butter sandwiches thursdays would be chili and peanut butter sandwich day and people were like they thought

I like had a dick growing out of my head when I brought up peanut butter sandwiches people still do they have no clue I still haven't tried it just this reason for years and I'm like is it just this is it just Missouri and then I got Missouri guys on the team some from St. Louis Mike McNeil but I remember asking him he's like no I've never heard of that I'm just like what the fuck like is it just our town

that does a gentleman roll is it? Yeah that's that's the classic runza What's the deal of runs us delicious are they I think it's just in Nebraska

yeah yeah I know it runs it like that they always cabbage though yeah I didn't I didn't understand

there's not that many cabbage people out there cabbaging for me dude yeah yeah runs as though it's a

it's a delicacy in Nebraska in Nebraska I would say like in Nebraska the Midwest they do fast food right

fast food is good there and you go to a big city fast food sucks okay but

they have so many you know they don't have that many like cuisine options in Nebraska. And I went to Philly. I'm like, dude, I didn't even know Mediterranean food was a thing. Yeah, you got some like Indian food, had some chicken teaky masala. I'm like, this is unreal. Yeah.

I go back to Nebraska and I got some Indian food. Like, this isn't Indian food. You know? So Philly, like the food scene out there is just. Open you up a little bit. It's incredible. Yeah, I've learned so much. His theory's on though.

George, we were talking about it on last week's spot. Like just again, being more from like a small town fields, they take their fast food a little bit more serious than if you go out. Intentional. Yeah, yeah, intentional versus like the big cities to where you have so much other cuisine to eat on the fast food. That's why they get the bad ratings. Is there like a what's the fast food chain burger spot in Nebraska? Everyone's like this is the best. Like you go out west, people like in and out burger.

Texas has run. I mean, Runs has got a great burger. Runs is a franchise. Taco Johns is like unreal. It's a better taco bow. Yeah, runs it is a franchise You guys have Jack in the Box out there, right? Yeah, but it's not good.

So this take might not hit with you, but Jack and I went through this in Vegas. It ended up to a franchise. Yeah, yeah, franchise. But my taco take is that your basic taco from Taco Bell isn't as good as the tacos at Jack in the Box. I mean, the Taco Bell's at Jack in the Box is just like the little 99-cent tacos. No, they have the bigger ones.

I think of the bigger tacos as well. I don't think I've ever had them. I've been on like the late nights where you get the 99 centers and ranch and dip in. There's going to be a couple people in the comments I understand what I want to fight what I'm saying. But that's something Jack and I went through about a year ago. But a lot of them like fast food spots have some good food. I mean Sonic breakfast burritos is a sonic. That's the best breakfast place you can go to.

Germ gets it about three times at least a week. Any time of the day 24-7, my God. It's so good. Yeah, it's good. I haven't had it. I'm thinking about Carlos Jr. Like, Carlos Jr. to me has great breakfast burritos.

Full chunks of ham in there. Go get yourself a ultimate mean cheese breakfast burrito at Sonic. Yeah? It's unreal. Everything at Sonic is the best. It will change. Sonic's nice. Change a view of it.

And I go to like the East Coast and everybody's like dogging on Sonic and Arby's. I'm like, bro, these are the spots. And you go there and like, oh, they, they aren't good out here. They just don't care. Yeah, man. You're waxing poetic right now. Sherm had Sherm has one for you Sheram go ahead and read that one

This is a fan question that came from Plainspools. Plainspools asked Have you ever considered that your position is a little gay With the QB all up in there Now that you say it maybe Like it's it's crazy

Like seeing other people That didn't grow up with football Try to understand football And we grew up here with football We just know everything about it It's just like simple. It's like, yeah, we're going to go play some football. And then you start describing the rules of football to people who don't know it.

And you're like, this shit is confusing, you know? And like soccer is just simple. You know, you kick a ball on a goal. But like football, there's like, there's rules, poundies. You get four tries to get a first down. Yeah. You don't. You have to do something else.

I'm like, it is tough to explain football to a non-football person. That was an incredible weave. If you tell them like, oh, I play center. Yeah, that was a trouble. To the quarterback, it's like, well, how do you give the ball to him? And like, well, he puts his hands, like, right in my butt. Right. Where's the best place?

Oh, the Gooch area. Yeah. Yeah. I want to feel that wrist, like, up under in the gooch. Like, get in deep. Yeah. Do you ever, like, think about your hygiene at practice? Like, okay, today's a stinky day.

Like, Jalen's going to be kind of upset when he's got his hand out of there all time and then he kind of gets a smell. Oh, dude, in fall camp. Like, I'm just, I'm soaked. Like, I'll lose, like, 10, 15 pounds of just sweat. like I'll just be disgusting and then there'll be like certain plays they're supposed to be on the center and jail and be like

yeah we're not doing that we're going gone oh that bad yeah it's bad that's fun that's how Corey 11 was he didn't have an extra pair of shorts to change it into practice no shit yeah there's a lot of guys like that Corey just happened to play center but they would he would have to change his pants like full pads you'd have to have new that selfless

selfless yeah bring it out there but then you got to put like a towel in there baby powder change pants just like I'm fine being sweaty. It doesn't bother me. Yeah. You know, that football, it can be caught

if that football is sweaty or not. Fair. So I don't know. They can get by. So, yeah. It builds you. Safe to say, Jail Hurts being a little dramatic

not going on the center. Yeah. Do you feel like a man? It's a clean take. That's a clean take. Do you feel like a man doing the tush push? Dude, yeah.

Lining up and you just, you're knowing you're about to get this first down. It does feel good. But then, you know, you'd be. I'm just in the middle, you know, and sometimes, like, we'll run that play. And I'll be on the bottom of the pile, not knowing if you got the first down or not, just not knowing where I'm at.

And then all of a sudden, they're yelling at me to get up and run another play. I'm like, we can get the first down. What's going on, guys? Yeah. And then doing a hurry up play out of, out of, like, QB sneak, unreal. Like, you can't, you can't get up off the ground and, like, hurry up and run and play and know what's going on. It takes you a little bit to, like, get back to reality after you're, run that play, especially if you run it back to back to back. I was going to say, were you as

a crazy, were you as annoyed as the rest of the world running like, what was it, four touch bushes in a row? Dude, yeah, I had a broken back at the time. That was the second half of the game when I, when I came in the NCAA championship game. I'm like, I couldn't even like walk or stand. And I'm like out there and they're like, all right, we're just going to keep running this and running this and I go to the sideline, like after we scored, and all the coaches are so juice up. Like, hell yeah. I'm like, no, dude, get the fuck away from me right now. Can we really not call anything else?

Not cool, guys. Yeah, they weren't thinking about you at all. And the dude's jumping over the back. Yeah. Jumping over the pile, landing on my back. I'm like, just give us a touchdown. What did that back feel like the next day? Oh, I mean, awful.

Could you walk? No. Yeah, when your mortality sinks. after winning the Super Bowl those next couple weeks. How quick did you get back surgery after the Super Bowl? Well, we had our parade on that Thursday or Friday, and then I think I had surgery on the Monday. Were you parade ready?

Yeah. Yeah, I was good to go for the parade. You know, just a few beers in you. It helps. A few beers and vitamin T. He's like, hey, can I get the epidural before we hit this parade? Right. He's the only player to take a tort all shot before a parade.

Yeah. Just getting ready to go. This comes from 1 underscore 5. How would you defend Willcom? coming into the agap two salty greedy cats going at it also is there any trash talk at the line of scrimmage for the center and the linebackers oh for sure especially if you're calling out their number going to wherever and they're talking but yeah i mean if you try to come through the agap like well head down you're getting knocked out it's gonna be it's gonna no top of the head's the hardest part

of your body you know mine's gonna be under your chin good luck good luck i'm already in a squat what are you talking about i stay low it'll be a stalemate It'll be a stalemate where you don't make the tackle. But the A gap would be stuffed. And running back, you know, Sequin would have to be back there bouncing around doing his thing. Then somebody else comes in and makes it down. I mean, he'll just jump over both of us. He just jumps over the A gap.

Yeah. What is your best? Who's the most shit-talking linebacker you've won against? I feel like linebackers don't talk that much. It's like the D-line guys that are coming in for like two plays and getting subbed out. You know, and they're like, oh, juiced up, like talking shit. And it's like, dude, you're doing like 30 plays this game. Like I'm doing every play.

The linebackers, every play. Yeah. And so they don't really talk much. Are you shit talker? No, unless someone's talking to me. No. You're trying to work hard to face the play. Yeah, you work hard to play, but go and get some jaw sets in as well.

Is there anybody on your offensive line that is a shit talker? Dude, not really. I feel like everybody's just gassed. You know what I'm saying. You're just gas. You don't talk much. Unless like a de-liam. coming in like i remember oh this is this is rough when i was playing guard um we're at kansas

city and i remember going in the game and they're like hey don't don't talk shit to chris jones like don't fire him up and i remember it was like the the last play before going in the half and i like i i locked him down on play and we threw the ball downfield big play and i'm just i was juiced and i just started jonging at him like first down like let's fucking go yeah yeah yeah you know in his space just the white boy go too and i'm like running downfield like ready to go score and then uh we fumbled the ball and then they got it back i'm like that's the last thing going in the halftime is i was just mad dogging chris i'm like this is about be a rough second half here how was it oh it was good we won oh shit it was raining and they didn't

cancel it sometimes you need that um go birds 62 says ask him if he actually noticed it any difference after stem cell treatment. Now, you were in, what, was it Medellin? Yeah, went down this place, bioaccelerator, and it was great, dude. Going down to Medellin and Columbia, like, pretty cool. Just mountains everywhere. It was a good time. And I feel like I am noticing difference.

It takes a little bit for the stem cells kick in. Have you guys got any? Yeah. What was the protocol? Was it a four-day protocol? Yeah, I was down there for about a week. But yeah, you're getting IVs. You're doing rehab, treatment, and then.

Oh, they're there. pulling the stem cell out of your body no it was uh somebody else's stem cells got you yeah yeah what do you do you do an id before like was it like a prep period yeah they had that too doing nad through an iv is like was that your first the most fun time yeah it's type two fun for sure yeah yeah yeah was that your first time doing n ad or had you done it i've done it a few times yeah it's and you're just trying to do as much as you can as fast as you can yeah and you feel like you're dying no yes we I don't think this is good to do. How quick do you get yours done?

N-A-D. So for people listening- First off, how much do you do? Like, 750. Okay. Okay, so go ahead. So for people listening, like if you do a drip, N-A-D,

a lot of times I would say the average is what it takes like an hour. Yeah, probably. Probably an hour for the drip. It's a slow drip. Some people can speed it up and do it faster. How quickly is your 750-m-m-gram N-D drip going? And the people that are listening right now, like, you feel like you have the flu?

your balls like you feel like your balls are being vacuum seal like people throw up like you feel terrible people slowly like crushing your chest yeah and as soon as the iv and literally if you stop the IV yeah everything as soon as you stop the IV like 10 seconds later you feel amazing but it's just while the IV is dripping you feel like shit yeah yeah yeah mean lane we would like let her IV bag get to like below half and then we would dump everything in and then we would try to like pressurize it and go as fast as we can and like race and it was like the worst four minutes of my life Four minutes. Dear God.

It's quick. Yeah. You'll let it drip. You'll drip half, though. So you'll probably go one. Yeah. So it's just like less and it's more concentrated. But you're just,

I mean, it's brutal. But it's fun, man. Like, it's just competition. Whatever. After you're done,

how good do you feel? I don't know if it's even like feeling good or just not feeling bad. You know what I'm saying? No, that's a fair point. Because you feel like death. And when you don't feel like death, you're just like,

I don't even know if it's good, but you're just like, all right, well, I'm not dying. Yeah. I mean, that's a good point.

I personally love it. We've told this story a few times, but Roger Saffold. Did anybody else do it like Saff? Um, one guy, but I forget his name right now. Saf would come in and it'd be like,

we're all on drips doing the NAD. And he'd come in and it's just, he just takes it to the head. What was it like eight minutes? No, dude. He would take a syringe at the end of it. So he would do his IV bag. They would take the IV bag out and then it'd be like a syringe.

Like that was like that big with 750 NAD and they'd just, put it in. So it was like 30 seconds. The time I witness where his eyes are just bloodshot, he lays on the floor and they just squeezed the bag the whole time. It took eight minutes. And it just looks like he's dying in front of you. Yeah.

And like two minutes later he gets up. He's like, all right. I'll see you guys later. Yeah. Jesus fucking right. It's kind of an insane thing to do. Insane thing to do. Insane.

It doesn't seem right. Like why can't we just like take a pill or something? Yeah. Something else out. I think they got in AD pills, but people, you know, you want to get it. Yeah, the pill doesn't really feel like it does. They have nasal spray for it as well. but it just doesn't it's not the same no pain no gain yeah right you want to feel like shit so

i don't i don't know dude it feels like it's working when you feel like shit yeah it's like you know it's doing something yeah right because it's fucking me up the minute it drips versus like a pill or spray like you don't feel nothing so it's like am i actually getting better yeah i kind of need to go to pain am i a fraud or am i really doing something to get one person i don't want to be a The first time you do it, though, and you see that trip come down, you're like, this isn't going to be that bad. And then right when it hits, you're like, yeah, I'm feeling something. Yeah. Dude.

Yeah, and you don't really know how to even comprehend it. Like, you start to get a headache, that chest pain. For me, it was always the nuts. We did Bobo, Adam Bobo Arate here. Before he had his company, he was like, just kind of like doing mercenary work ripping around. And so I met up with him. He's like, hey, the FDA has done studies up to 1850 for NAD. so let's just do that.

And I would be in the basement of my house, first place that we met for like three hours, just like laying there doing 1850 of NAD while having my wife played video games and got high. It was the most miserable experience in my life. Hey, I'm seeing 1850. Like, let's just do that. Yeah, like they said it's safe up to this point,

so let's just go ahead and do that. I mean, it's so shitty. I just want to get done as fast as I can. I got to get back on NAD. Got to get back on it. We got one here from Jared Beeman, Was Columbia sick? How was the food?

Dude, the food was good. Honestly, I felt great. Like, going down there, I feel like when you're in America, you just have so much shit in your food. It's so processed. You go down there. Like, you travel and you're like eating anything and everything. And then you get done with the week.

I'm like, man, I'm feeling good. And then you go back home and you, like, have a fast food burger food. Fuck. Did you, like, go, like, do you get any Popal Escobar stuff while you're there? Yeah, dude, our hotel. that we're staying at like we could see the private air strip that he put in in the middle and like everybody's like yeah he would just sit in the air trip and just watch his money fly in and his product out and it's just it's cool seeing that you know you watch narcos yeah you're like

i'm juiced to go down yeah no doubt that's it right there no is you guys seen narcos bad show what a show what a show yeah i mean dude how about pablo bringing in six mil day yeah how about pablo unreal yeah how about Escobar man

if you think about about Epstein I'm joking we're joking we're having a fun time we're having a fun time on the show he did win the lottery twice

he did win the lottery twice what's going on with that Epstein stuff right now the stuff he's alive I think he's alive 100% will's been in the weeds

a little bit the weeds that I'm in the weeds that I'm in the weeds that I'm in that you know you know he won the lottery twice yeah

that's the rabbit holes I'm in all right now all the emails stuff like that just crazy it's just a web like you know you can get a rabbit hole and you learn so much and you get out of that rabbit hole and you want to tell everybody yeah yeah are you big conspiracy theorist guy yeah dude they're fun

everyone is man they're fun what's a big year that you like you believe too many do you think the world is what I mean the alien stuff like there's so many conspiracy theories that just aren't conspiracy and people like aliens are here I think they announced that right

yeah it's yeah but what he's saying is people still look at you and be like this you're fucking drinking the Kool-Aid people still ask the questions do you believe in aliens and I think the question is now like how crazy is it that we have aliens yeah like I think they're here I think they're in the ocean that'd be a great spot for them to go yeah we know more about space and we do the ocean

we know nothing and I think that's on purpose what if we make a LaDama still alive because what we haven't probably protecting them probably down there in Atlantis We haven't checked out like over 90% of the ocean. Yeah. That's crazy. You think they're down there like underground or they have some fucking.

They probably just developed over time and they can go in the water. Yeah. Like Jar Jarvis. Who knows what they look like? This is just Arc. The Game Arc. Yeah. They probably got a base down there in a Bermuda Triangle.

I've been reading about that. Amelia Earhart. Yeah. They probably got a base down there. Maybe they converted her to Alien. She might still be alive. She might be. They say they found a plane in Antarctica.

And there's rumors about that's a million air hearts plane. Could be. Could be. There's some weird stuff going on up there. Yeah. So are you in the camp that there's a city down there or that there's an operation down at the bottom of the ocean? Talking about Atlantis? Well, you're talking about the Bermuda Triangle?

Like, I want to drink the cooler. I mean, I love the conspiracy theories. Love the conspiracy. Yeah, I think it's like a military base or whatever for them down there. But I don't know. I mean, since we started getting nuclear, like, energy and bombs, I think that's when they started showing up. Probably trying to protect us from ruining the world. Yeah.

From ourselves. Yeah. Fuck. You believe in ghosts? I feel like you got to. I just don't know what kind or where or whatnot, but I mean, if aliens are here, we're here, there's probably some sort of ghost. A couple guys that got lost in their way. Yeah.

I like to believe in ghosts, especially in October. 100%. What's your take on? What's your favorite holiday? Give your top three holidays. Halloween's up there. Okay. That's all I need to hear.

And 4th of July. And I feel like the rest are like a holidays. You know, those are the top two. Quote, quote, graphic, that. Where's Christmas? Hold on. Quote, Christmas is fun, but like, I don't know, dude.

There's something about October. It's like a whole month. Yeah. I mean, we agree. I agree with that. But I'm just saying. We do agree. I feel like you're not giving Christmas.

It's love. because you've just been a football guy, so Christmas is kind of like, again, just a regular holiday. The moment he's on the other side of it and get to experience some Christmas, gets a family, it's going to skyrocket up the charts. Not yet, no.

See, that's where that'll change. Christmas will become a much bigger deal to you once you have kids. He's part of Seaman Team 6 right now. Yeah. He's just letting fly for the love of the game. I love that. Love that. But Halloween, dude,

something about, even in Nebraska, I'm sure the parties were incredible, people dressing up, doing a whole bunch of stuff, but just that weather, they're starting to break. I don't need to get into the whole spiel. But it is just an incredible month. Dude in Philly, they have this place. Eastus State Penitentiary. It's where Al Capone was at.

And it's a super old penitentiary that's been shut down for a long time. But there's some crazy stuff that happened there. And now, like, every October, they shut the whole place down from tours. And then they turn it into a huge, like, scary house. And there's like five different place you can go into. And you're walking through this penitentiary. And it's like the most insane. They have like hundreds of actors come out there and they it's so intense and so fun i go every year sounds sounds incredible yeah you have like glow sticks and you like wear a glow stick and if you're wearing that that means you can get touched have you ever wore the glow stick every time yeah they like grab you bring to a different room and you don't know what's going on you're just there to have fun man

you just enjoy it have you heard about uh well first off is there like are there places where you like pay certain amount of money. And you, if you get through it, you get a, but McCany Manor, that's one in Tennessee, but there's one that had, like, levels. Like, there was, like, 10 stories. I think it was in Texas. And there's only, like, two people that made it through. It was like, a firefighter, like, a Navy Seal, some dope shit like that. Get a prize or something like that.

Cool T-shirt. I survived X, Y, and Z. Yeah. But I heard about McKinney Manor. Yeah, they bury you alive and shit. Bro, and they, like, stick you with, like, hallucinogens. Like, it's crazy. Apparently, apparently the guys under, allegedly, under a lot of different,

like lawsuits right now taking place. But you would like give like, I think a 50 pound bag of dog food and 50 bucks or something like that. And they have you for like five hours. People talk about like they would wake up or end up in a different state at times. It's just nuts. They should 100% be under the vest. Yeah.

It's crazy, dude. You know what we should do? Tell me. Add it to the list. McKinney Manor? No. Oh, 100%. Go out to Philly during Spookover with Camp.

Yeah. Our busiest time of year. and just hit that haunted house haunted prison Al Capone you've ever heard Alcatraz I went and saw it when I was out in San Fran for the Pro Bowl

that place is awesome Yeah And then I had to watch Oh there's a movie about it The Rock Not the Rock But I've seen that Shutter Island

Yeah Shutter Island It's about why the whole place Got Shut down Shoshank Redemption No Oh I think on the tour They told us why I got shut down right Longest Yard

Sick movie Yeah, Grudeaugren game Have you seen the Rocker? Yeah Incredible film Those little green balls He hasn't seen it So I don't want to give up too much away

But what Don't spoil it for me What I'm still gotta go see it Yeah That alone Have you seen Autorash? Yeah You haven't seen Entourage?

No, I haven't seen the movie Movies pretty good But I feel like the movie's only good If you watch the show Well I like the movie So maybe I know And you'll love the show You'll love the show.

I'll tell them. I'm going to check it out. It's on my list. And I got to do it before old boy comes in. After. That's in May. Yeah, so I got time. Oh, no, oh boy.

He doesn't know. Which old boy? They don't know which old boy. They don't know that he's coming. Did I ruin it? Oh. Don't it, dude. Damn.

Oh, we got one from at Chef Hanging. How would Cam fight a ghost if he had to? Easy answer. I mean, it depends what kind of ghosts, you know? Are you trying to, like, what kind of ghost is it? Is it a ghost that's like taking over my body? Am I fighting myself? You know what I'm saying?

That's a great question. Yes. I feel like that's broad. That is true. Like if you're fighting yourself, are you just trying to kill yourself? Are we not all fighting ourselves every day? I mean, our internal demons. But what if them demons are taken over?

That's how. So how do you fight off the internal demons when they're trying to? trying to get you cam dude i think you just drown yourself i feel like there's not that many ghosts in the water you know they might be scared of the water but that okay yeah first off love where your head's at and that's kind of like um fight club situation yeah but have you seen fight club yeah okay just making sure um but killing yourself drowning yourself i feel like there's i mean yeah we're gonna get rid of the ghost maybe but he might just get out of there be not right as your take a chopper and and just drop me in the ocean to where you know,

even if you're trying to survive, like you're not going to make it because you can't swim back to shore. You get dropped in the ocean. Okay. Drown yourself. You die. Ghost dies.

And then you get survived by an alien coming up, bringing you down to the way. Phenomenal callback. Phenomenal call back. That would be top tier. And then nobody ever sees you again because you're just like, all right,

I can swim now. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good fucking point. What would your message be to aliens if you were confronted and you were the human being that the world was like, Cam Juergens needs to be one to represent us? Dude, I think I just want to know answers. Okay.

So they know so much. How did you build the pyramids? That would be the first one. Yeah. So you don't believe humans built the pyramids. No shot. Not us humans. Maybe different humans.

Different humans are alien humans? Maybe. A different form of us. Yeah. It is tricky. The pyramids. Yeah. When the conspiracies get into it, I don't know.

I always forget about the pyramids, but those are clearly not man-made. Yeah. Are they like a line with stars as well? Yeah, something like that. Something crazy. I always just have to wait and listen to Dr. Joe talk about what's going on in the world. If the aliens, if you give the aliens one song to represent American culture, what would you give them? Hey there, Delilah.

That's a good one. Yeah, but they only had one good one. That's a scary part. maybe country road by john denver nice nice they would like that it's a great

they would like that yep you start kind of nudging them country road yeah they start by the third course they're singing along yeah

that's a good one man don't you love this pod yeah this is great dude I've been listening for a long time since you guys first started up oh no shit yeah I listened in college

let's shut out fucking jergs baby what else could we ask him What was internally going on with the Philadelphia Eagles this year? I mean, guys, we can talk about anything. This dude's pro. He's pro.

He is. How about what's like, what's a story of you moment or a moment where you realize, like, this is so much more of a business than I assumed it would be? Dude, I mean, it's just football, like the nature of it. Like, it's crazy because I remember one time we're out. in the summer just doing drills like whatever and you just see like a 10 year vet just tears Achilles and his career is over and everything's changed and then we're just like all right move the drill up five yards that's the craziest thing in the world to me and then like the next day it's like yeah he's

cut he we don't want to pay for his when you know rehab or whatever we'll give him severance pay whatnot it's just yeah you know it's hard like because you have so many guys at the start of year and then you just know everybody's going to get cut by the end of the you know going into a season and then someone may get cut picked up with another team and he may be brought back and then cut brought back like i've seen guys get cut like six times off our team the same dude it's like why do you keep coming back man yeah you know it's just like this place is not for you well even when you're got even when you're a guy and you're safe and then it's like your contract is coming up and then you start learning the ins and outs of like oh fuck dude am i really potentially not going to be

here next year yeah some guys are like too good you know they're getting paid too much and then it's like oh, it's, it's too much to pay this guy. So then you're getting cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I was, I was dumb and assuming, like, when I went in, because I was practice squad my first year. So when I got my three credited seasons, I was going into essentially, like, my contract was up because I was undrafted, so I only had, like, a three-year deal.

And I was technically, in the business terms, I was, like, an exclusive rights-free agent. And I'm thinking, well, I got voted captain. I played a lot. like I've started the entire year or I played a lot this year. Like I'm going to be the guy going in the next year. Like surely we'll probably do like a two or three year deal. And they'll kind of like reward you.

And then you kind of just learn no, you're on an exclusive rights deal. Like essentially you sign this contract or you just don't, you're not going to play for anybody else. You're kind of fuck, dude. It's tough when you're going to work something out. It's tough when you're on draft. I'm like, really? You know, when you're on draft you're fighting every year because like GMs, they draft somebody. They want him to work out.

And then they want him to be good. So you're going to keep getting chances because you're drafted. And the GM wants to be like, yeah, I drafted that guy. I picked that guy. Yeah. We're like the undrafted cats, you know, it's, you're always getting replaced. Yeah, it's like, if you don't work out, who cares? Like that was, yeah, that's why you went undrafted.

Yeah. And then if you're good, it's like, whatever scout or whoever was like looking at you, like, see, I told you I can fucking. And then that scout's trying to move up totem pole. And like, it's, yeah. It's just such a, like, political business. Yeah. How about the first time you, like, cut days happened?

I know, like, you got cut and put in practice squad for your first season. But, like, for me, I remember, like, my real. rookie year. I was a first round pick and even like going into cuts I was like hey am I safe and they're like guys are kind of laughing at me but seeing guys that like are in your draft class and then they're getting cut they're crying on their way out there is no like development

period like in college for me that was like the first time I was like oh shit this is actually you can't just stay here because what happens now that's like well hopefully another team picks him up yeah if another team doesn't it's like well he's got to fucking figure it out yeah he's got to live his life and it's like oh it can be over just like that it's a craziest thing man

and they've seen that first time and can't Canada or the UFL and it's just like it's a grind to get to the NFL. And once you get here, it's like it's such a business. I mean, you get chopped up and spit out and then guys are always trying to get their way back. And you play football your whole life, it's hard to, you know, let it go. No doubt. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Because even in college, too, you say you're not working out or they're going to still spend time trying to like not give up on you or develop you or whatever it is. You're kind of still catered, especially if you're like a scholarship guy. So when that whole structure, you're going into the big leagues or the professional world, knowing that there is no structure whenever you're done, it's kind of like fuck. Yeah, that's why it's important to still, hey, what other interests might you have if you're not a guy who's going to play in the league for fucking a decade? Mm-hmm. So I smart play with the jergy move. Yeah, building the business. Man, it's been fun.

I mean, we got into, just as last year, we got into 140 stores in like Pennsylvania all across the state and just, I mean, selling jerky. It's cool because I started in college with my right guard time. Matt Sichterman, he's like a software engineer. He, like, built a website. And my mom was with our business. And we made an LLC together and started selling jerky. And I mean, the whole goal was just, you know, stay close with one of my best friends, Matt,

and then make my mom some money. And, man, it's been fun. That is cool, bro. It's cool. Like, because I have no idea what I'm doing in the business world or anything like that. And you just learn as you go. fall forward. Yeah.

You're always just learning and you're like, all right, what steps do I take? It's like, well, let's just figure it out. Let's do this. And then it doesn't work. Then we'll figure it out the next step. Yeah. And in the very beginning, you think, oh, I'm just like one phone call away from getting this in stores across fucking.

We just got to get this national. We just get at Costco. It's over. If Target will just pick us up. Then you just learn it just doesn't work that way. Yeah. And all the ends and outs and the games that are played with all the other jerking companies. What's your favorite?

The favorite, Mango Harman, Era. We got a mango habanara, and it's a little spicy, but it's sweet. And then hot honey, cracked pepper, original terriaki. And, I mean, the best way to sell it is just online because it's just direct to the people. And we got a website, jerky.co, j-U-R-G-Y dot CEO. You guys got to check it out. It's incredible right there. Yeah, well, I don't know.

As you're saying all that. Yeah, get you guys a pack. Mango-havenara is my favorite. But it is tough. Because when we're in season, I'm not. I mean, it's just all football. It's so tough. And I see guys with, like, families and kids.

I'm like, man, I don't know how, how you go through a season with a full family and kids. Like, it's got to be tough. Yeah, we were having that conversation the other day. Yeah. How, like, I had kids while I was playing. Will was after he was done playing. I remember my wife, year three, like going into year four, I had my first child. Mm-hmm.

Played nine, which I could say 10. And so, yeah, I had two kids, but it really turns into, like, when you, have kids and you're in the NFL, like, there is a kind of like, the main thing is football. Yeah. Like this, it sucks to say and it's like really hard for some people to hear, but like, you're only in this for a certain amount of time. The older you get them where you realize, like, oh, the expiration date is coming. So to have a partner that sits there and is like, I understand that you have to do this

right now. So I'll take on like 80% of the work, 90% of the work and you come in and fit in where you possibly can. And then there's a whole different game of when the season ends and you're on this routine of waking up at whatever time. you are getting back watching the film doing the massages hitting the n-d like your process your routine now you're coming back into your family's routine and they've already established theirs and so you're trying to fit in and be like okay i'm the dad so i need to put myself here but then there's like it kind of ruffles a lot of

feathers because she's so used to doing that so like the first couple weeks for me after every season was very difficult for me to like kind of like put myself back into my family's lives because it's it really was like you guys have to take a back seat for this six, seven months, whatever it is. And routine is just everything because it's hard to have motivation and energy all the time. But if you just stick to a routine, you're consistent. Like that's everything. When you get done with the season, your routine just shifts. And you like lose yourself for a little bit, trying to like get back in the training, getting your routine set.

Exactly. It always takes time. But like when you have kids or a dog or whatever, like your routines just constantly change. I was smiling because Jared perked up when you said, or a dog. And he's like, because he's inside, inside, off the, off the field. Yeah, dude. He's like, oh, dogs like having a kid. It's nothing like that.

But yeah, like I was talking to Taylor Tudor. I'm like, I just feel like I just lucked into the part of like having the kids after. Because part of me was I was like, I'd love to have kids like while playing. So you get like photos on the field and do all the stuff. Then when we had kids or when we had Ruit first and I was looking at this was the year 10. or 10. But when I was looking at leaving and going to Atlanta to play and knowing all the things that it takes to like pour into a newborn and your kid really just pour into your wife because of everything that they go through. And I just, it was almost like a perspective shift. It's like,

fuck, dude, it's got to be fucking hard to balance being a parent and having a career like playing in the NFL because you're so your entire dream growing up is playing in the NFL. And then when you were playing in the NFL and you either meet your wife or you had your girlfriend going into it and then you decide to have kids. You almost just don't, you're just blinded to it because you're not thinking about, you're just like, you know, this career is the career I've always dreamed of having. And we got to do everything we can to make sure I maintain this career. But then it's like, my perspective shifted into like, you know, respect to the, uh, the dads that are trying to balance both in doing it. But massive respect to just the moms because they have to essentially

cater around everything in your world because the world is like, how do we play this game? How do we maximize the opportunity we've been afforded? Because when I was set to leave, Rue was like, Rue was born in April. So about seven months in, and I was about to go to Atlanta. Part of me was like, fuck, I kind of hate that I have to go. Like, I'm just not going to see, like, my baby and my wife for this extended amount of time, however long that I would have played in Atlanta. Or you guys can come visit me then.

And it's like, well, fuck, that's going to take a lot of hoops to go through. Because the baby has such a structure that you're kind of married to, to where when I was leaving, when it didn't work out, a part of me was, like, relieved of like, well, at least I get to be home or be around my kid. Because I kind of felt bad that I was like, hey, I'm going to still go chase this year 10 or kind of go chase this dream when I know it's pretty much done. Like I'm kind of just going to do it for fun now. And leaving you guys back.

I'm kind of like, I felt like a shitty person. And it weird? Yeah, yeah. Because you were in such a unique situation, but it is like kind of the part of like guys leaving their family. Like dudes that get traded mid year.

And they're in like year nine or 10. They have a multiple kids. Their kids are in school. So they like have to go to a new city. You know, like yeah, my kids get done with school to come out there. So that's months.

Yeah. of them just not seeing their father and it's face times and phone calls you your situation is wild my is wild because it's like busting's going well there's really like there's there's no reason to leave but also it's like once you're done you're done like once you once you shut down you hang out the cleats like we all go through like this this part of being like hey it's crazy it's over like i'm three years removed from playing football and i think about football it's like it's crazy to think i ever did that like it feels like such a foreign world to me now because you have all these new things you're doing every single day.

We get to do this. But also your kids are growing. So you're just like not like, I'm focused on football when it's on in the fall. We have to do our show and stuff like that. But something that was such a like the majority part of your life. That was the biggest part, 80% of your life is now 10% of your life.

And it's such a weird thing to kind of balance and just like kind of reflect on and think back about yeah. That's crazy we used to play. Yeah. Oh, 100%. What was like the things going through your head before you retire and being like, I can't wait to do this when I'm done playing football. Like what are you guys looking forward to the most?

I think you already kind of said it. And it's it's, it's, there's on the micro, it's wake it up on August 7th. And then you look at the thermostat and it's fucking 92 degrees outside. And you know, there's a bunch of guys in the town that you played in and they're all dying. You're like, you know what? I'm going to take another 45 minutes. I'm going to sleep a little bit longer today. Like that's something you're like, you think about when you're playing.

Like, it's crazy when I'm. done, I can just sleep during this day. Something about like going trick-or-treating with your kids and not think about I have to play this guy in three days and these are his moves. I remember we would do a thing with the Titans where like we try to do most Fridays. Like I get the old line boys together, a couple extra guys. We would go to a haunted house in Nashville. And I specifically remember like walking through these haunted houses.

And while I'm like trying to like be in the moment, I'm thinking about Vaughn Miller's, you know, spin move and how he sets it up while I'm walking through. So I'm not truly present. I'm kind of like enjoying it, but I'm not really enjoying it. And there's like Christmas. And it's like you go in meetings aren't until 2 p.m. so we can enjoy the morning. It's like, okay, we're doing this.

But in your brain while they're opening presents, you're like, I got to get back to that. So it's like. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. It's like, I never played on Thanksgiving. Have you played on Thanksgiving before? I think so. But yeah, holidays suck when you're playing football.

Holidays suck, dude. And then once you get out, bro, it is. It's so much fun. And that's what makes October even better. It's like the opening ceremony to all of the holidays. it's holidays change everything dude yeah that when football is done the holidays are such a game changer and it's truly like you don't get a lot of reflective periods when you're doing this especially the world we living because we get to jump from something so quick and there wasn't

that time of like what is my identity who am i i've been this for so long like that kind of like got to go away because we still get to live in this type of world but the holidays when you really sit back and it's like Thanksgiving and i got the boy over and his kids running around and Rue was asking me to go do something. Well, all the older kids are upstairs, and I bring her up, and you kind of sit in the couch, everyone's got full bellies. My boys are over, and it's like, I got nothing to fucking worry about today. Yeah.

There's nothing. I'm going to throw a couple of bets on. Hopefully Detroit doesn't shit the bag, because we're going to bet on them because they do it every single year. And this is awesome. Yeah, it's like the moment as a vet when you experience a weekend in season or where you're not playing. Like mine, like I, when we launched, when we were doing busing, I was fired up about

doing the bus because I was like, you know, this is a train. transition that we could have. Yeah. But I was still part of me, it's like, all right, whenever August comes around, like, I'm going to still try and get on a team and play for the year. For me, like, I ended up going to the Saints, but then I got injured in the fourth preseason game. And so I got an injury settlement.

Like, my ankle was just fucked for like six weeks and then I'd be ready to go. But just kind of tasting those first six weeks of the season where at first I'm kind of like you just feel out of place because you feel like you need to be focused or like involved somehow. Like it just doesn't feel right. But when I'm like, I'm back home, I just play for the Titans. I'm watching the Titans on the weekend, thinking about how we could balance busing with Taylor still playing on the Titans, or I'm going to go in and do X, Y, I'll probably do the intro solo, or whatever we were doing then.

But seeing the Titans lose and knowing like, oh, I didn't lose, like, I'm not going to be in the meeting rooms the next day. There's almost just this weird weight of anxiety that you kind of release yourself from. For when you wake up on Monday morning, you step outside and it's fall and you got the crisp breeze and just the spooktober vibes are coming and you're kind of like. Maybe a little fall golf. Yeah, maybe a little fall golf, but you feel like you should be in trouble since the team that I'm following or still feel invested and just lost the game. But I kind of don't have that. And then that kind of stacked. And then when I played on Oakland, I kind of felt like, oh, this might be my last year. But the moment you start experiencing the holidays, the weekends in the fall and just knowing you're not tied, your identity isn't tied to something to where, you know, in the brass, when you lose, you feel like the world's just on top of you. Or in the NFL, when you have the business aspect or I'm not playing well, what's the front office thinking or what, or what, or. what's the meeting vibe going to be like, like, is our guys going to get our shit together this week? Are we going to win this game?

When you're kind of like done with that, it takes a little bit. But the moment you accept and you're kind of like, yo, I'm going to go get a fucking ice latte down at the coffee shop this morning and not have any obligation to. I didn't stare at my phone for a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And you're just seeing kind of the headlines.

You're like, oh, fuck. Like, that kind of sucks. Yeah. And you know guys are dealing with their things because they're in the bubble. It's like anytime we could say something out of pocket about a guy, and he might feel some type of way. I'm thinking like, okay, I can definitely empathize with what he's feeling because he's in,

he's in the bubble still. Like, I was the same way. I always saw like, man, this kind of sucks seeing my name come across. Everybody kind of dogging on it, talking shit on it. But then when it's over and you're kind of like removed from it, you're like, you feel like you can just breathe. I don't know, you just enjoy, you enjoy everything a lot more. When you're playing, there's just so much anxiety and pressure

and you're just like in a tunnel. Yeah. You know, when you're in the meetings, that's just all you're at. you don't realize there's like an outside world going on outside you. You just think like, oh, my life is great. Oh, my life is hell. Like, this is where I'm at right now. And then what's up, you guys?

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it's just hard keeping up with everybody. Yeah. You know, you just shut the outside world out. I got a game Sunday. Yeah, family comes into town. They're trying to talk to you about things that you don't give a fuck about. And you're like,

all right, man. Yeah, and you're like not really there. Or you do have some, a FOMO element because you're like, man, I would do it. I love that my family's coming out for this game and they're doing all these things.

Like, it would be fun to partake in that. But also I've got to focus on this other thing. So please don't bother me too much. And then you wake up Saturday morning in a team hotel and you have a game at 312, 330 in a night game and like just slowly that anxiety so it's creeping in your body it's where you get the breakfast you're like you know i can't really eat i don't want to come off

like i'm nervous right now because i want everyone else to feel good because i have to play everyone else else everyone wants to feel good so i'm gonna like kind of just hold this internally in me then you get on the bus and it's probably this might be the same for you i feel like it's different for guys to have stats because you think about ball and like how many tackles you may and get how many catches you're going to get for whatever how many yards are i run for for us it's like at least for me, I'll speak for myself, it's like, I just pray to God. I don't fuck this up for the rest of the guys today. And I could be a part where it's like, yeah, I did my job to help the rest of the team win.

But what if I get exposed? So you have this like imposter syndrome thing going on. And you're like literally driving into your home game. You're driving into the S lot, whatever it is. And you're just thinking yourself, like the anxiety is so high. And you're walking in, fans are fired up. You're trying to like, dude, I'm all heads up. And in your mind, you're like, this is truly.

my judgment day right now. National anthem hits and they're just like, I need to just hurry up and get on the field before I throw up. Now all that is gone. And like game days, when we're playing at home, my house just turns into a hotel who's ever in town. My parents are always out there. And then like, there's just so juice for the game, so much energy that I'm just like nervous for the game. You know, anxiety's hidden. You're just trying to like prepare. And then your parents are just like excited about tail day doing this, doing that. Slamming some beers. Oh, my gosh, this year, it was a night game. And, like, I was getting ready to have the door.

And my dad's like, hey, you want to drop me off with the tailgate in the way in? I'm like, no, I'm not dropping you off of the fucking tailgate in the way into the game. I'm like, I'm sitting here thinking I'm about to go to war. Like, I feel like I'm hopping in a chopper driving down to like Baghdad going to like, you know, go to war with bad guys. And then your dad's like, hey, you want to drop me off of the tailgate? Yeah. No. No, I'm hopping in the chopper.

Absolutely. It was out of the job. What the fucking talking about? It is so true, man. And then, again, people, like, throw opinion. Like, you go through all of that mentally. And then somebody on the outside

or, like, comment your name about something or, like, talk shit and just itchy because you're so in the fucking box. You can't see it. It's like, okay, what the fuck do you do? Like, you probably sit wherever you do with your job, like, and we compare it to us where it's like, you know,

what other jobs up there are just not, performance-based literally every day to where you go in and out of practice, in and out of games, and now you go into big boss, and you're literally getting commented in front of everybody about your technique, your ability, everything, just every day. And then the moments that's gone, and then you come to, like, accept it, it's very free.

But it's such a different culture in football because, like, you go out of that and you go to a regular world, and your boss is no longer cussing out you doing the same shit. And you're like, man, this is weird. yeah yeah you're like just you can't just you know say the things you're saying walking or with your coach or like with the guys in the building yeah as soon as you're getting them off the shop it's like what the fuck is going on yeah so you're like oh okay i had a tough day but i'm able to show up tomorrow like everything's all good like yeah it's kind of how it

works i'm missing the word the hardest part is like uh i feel like you come off in such a high in in football to where we play in the NFL's. I think of the analogy of, you found this roller coaster that gives you so much, like, juice and so much energy and such like a purpose. Like, this is my reason for being. And after the game,

I feel like a lot of guys struggle is finding that next thing that gives you the same urge that you feel weird of like, you know, adapting yourself to the retired life. Of like, what is my next thing going to be? Yeah. That's probably the biggest hurdle what I feel like to have got to struggle with,

because you're on such a roller coaster moving in it. Because it's so fire or flight the entire time. Like, am I going to be here tomorrow? Or am I going to take down Vaughn Miller? Like, it's something different every day, every week. There's so much. There's so much when you're out of it. You can just get cut and traded anytime, anywhere.

And, like, the casual fan just sees that. And they're like, oh, so-and-so just got traded. I can't wait for him to play. But then if you're a player, like, man, how's he going to move his entire family out there and then practice tomorrow after he just got traded? Yeah. You know, it's like, dude, the logistics behind everything and, like, moving or whatnot. Like, people don't understand that.

Yeah. Like, Max, on his pod of The Rush last week when he's kind of breaking down all this stuff that went on with Baltimore. And he called Rachel, his wife and, like, hey, the Baltimore move happened and everything else. And he just talks about how Rachel, like, almost, like, was starting to cry because you have such a vested, you've been in Vegas for so long. And now you've got to move and do everything else where it's like, oh, that should be easy. Like, Max, you make fucking, like, you're one of the highest-paid guys for a league like this. these things shouldn't even be felt or go on. But just listening to them say that, it's like, yeah, it happens all the time with guys.

So it's like, hey, we're going to be across the country now in a completely different world. Like, I know we've kind of had your routine here, but his wife's crying on the phone thinking like, damn, I knew that something like this was coming, but I didn't know it was actually going to happen. The back situation was nuts. Yeah, the max situation is crazy. Have you thought about life after football at all? Yeah, but you just signed a crazy context. So you're sitting nice, but. Yeah, I'm thinking, man.

waking up and I get to take care of my mom, like, every day. That sounds exciting. I'm excited for that. Yeah. But, like, I love football. You know, I want to play as long as I can and, you know, hopefully just keep playing with Philly. Like, it's just, there's not too many better places to play football than with the Eagles,

especially when you're there. You know, if you're not there, you probably hate us. You know, it's kind of how it is. It's kind of nice. It's like a badge of honor in the way, isn't it? To, like, be like, oh, these fan bases hate us because we, first of all, we were rip and our fan base is crazy. And come me in here.

got to be super hostile for other people. It's kind of be like, yeah, fuck everybody else. Yeah. Yeah, your fan base is just so goddamn hostile. You know what I mean? That's what feeds the, because I'm being coined as like an Eagles hitter, and I'm thinking, like, I don't hate the Eagles,

but you're making me rude against them because of how insane you guys are, which I love. I love the entertainment of the league and all the things that go on. It's more like, I'm just saying, they're probably going to drop. Just letting you guys know.

And you guys drop. I see your hands go up I'm like But um Be the Huskers And Thursday Thursday Thursday game

How long do you want to play If you had a crystal ball He's a wheels fall off type of guy Because you know like you got Draft this second round You know you're a good fucking player Like again already a two-time pro bowl Like

Do you think about like You know Be set to get 10 be set to get 15. I mean, it'd just be nice to get to, like, a few contracts. Yeah. I don't know. We'll figure it out year by year, and, you know, hopefully, you know, everything's settled

by then, but I don't know. Right now, I'm playing, and when you plays on again. Yeah. Because it's such a short window. And so, it's so different than everything about. Yeah. When you're done finding, you have the ability that, you know, not have to work again, and you get inside a little work.

And, you know, it's wild. And right now, it's just like, all right, I'm a football player, and that's what I'm doing. I'll figure out the next thing. Yeah. Ventric business entrepreneur, the jerky business, trying to grow that. And, you know, that's a pretty cool thing to fall back on. Yeah, when I was talking to LeBonte, when he just got drafted, he was like, he said to you get 10.

This dude's going to stand at, what, you're 15? Yeah. Right now, it's just nuts. 10 is the older number. There's the goal. Thank you. Um, you're familiar with Bud Light, aren't you? So, people would do anything for an ice cold bug light.

What's something Cam Verges would do anything for? Can't take it all. Um, let's think about that. It's a good question. Thanks, man. I'm thinking of, like... I'm thinking of, like... I mean, that's solid practice for you, though.

Yeah. Like, if you're hungover, that's what I'm going for. Yeah. Sometimes, like, I'll do anything for a sign. nearby. I love that. That's where my mind went, but it's probably a lot better options. No, probably not, dude.

Probably a lot better options. Are there good sonics in the film area or is it kind of like, I got to get out of you? No, there's not. Really? Yeah, there's a good sonic down here, though. How do you like living in Nashville? Love it, dude.

It's such a good area. Yeah, there's just so much to do. It's nice being here. You know, so much land and you kind of get a little bit of everything here, a big city, but I don't know. I mean, I can't be on the East Coast, can't be on the West Coast. Like, I grew up in Nebraska.

I was so lame long. It was nice being here. Midwest guy. So, to the year. Living in the big city was such a huge change for me. I mean, go up in Nebraska, living on a farm outside of town of, like, 200 people called Pickle, Nebraska.

And I was like an hour or about half hour south of Lincoln there. And then never saw the ocean until I went to California to start my life. draft training. So I had the first time to salt ocean. And then I go out there and I'm driving on the road. There's nine lanes in the same. I'm like, this is nuts. And I get drafted of Philly. And this is always like the story I tell. Like when I go to Philly, like I had to go see a dentist when I got there. And I get the address to go to the dentist office. It's downtown. I'm driving my like big truck down there. I pull up to the building. It's a skyscraper. I'm like, okay, where the hell do I park?

I'm like trying to find a place to park. Finally get to a garage, truck don't fit. They have to hold it outside for me. I go in there. I'm like, all right, I'm here to see the dentist. Where is it? And they're like, all right, it's on the 17th floor. I'm like, okay, 174.

There's five dentists offices on the floor. I don't even know which one I'm going to. I'm knocking on the doors. Back in Nebraska, if I needed to go to the dentist office, I drive to the dentist office. I park and I'll walk in and I see the dentist. Yeah. You know, like big city not from me.

And if big city not for me. And if the dentist office is 25 miles away, and your brain's like, oh, it's going to take 25 minutes to get there. Now in the cities, bro, that's you 25 miles away. Your initial thing is like, all right, I'll probably get there 25, 30 minutes.

It's like, that ain't how it works. Yeah. That is. Five miles away and you're like, fuck, I'm going to have to leave. Yeah. That was a big, that's a big difference of going into the city life.

Sounds like you didn't utilize Big Dom because I did not, dude. I was just so naive. I'm like, I was just driving. in the dentist office and park. No shot. That's how it works. Living in a big city

seems like the craziest. What are you thinking for your spooked over Stoom this year? Stoom, but Stoom. Costume. Okay. You know, I haven't thought about it yet.

Yeah, that's fair. Maybe like, now that we're talking about it, maybe like an alien slash ghost, like hybrid. Okay, yeah. We could do something there. Yeah, by October next year, like, we're probably have like some footage of some aliens. Like, everybody's probably going to see what they look like.

So maybe I can start playing in costume. Yeah, they're saying, country moon. Yeah, there we go. There you go. To the thing. Fun pot. Fun pot. I'm sweating my ass.

Dude, I was just going to say, I'm fucking gone. I'm sweating. I'm fucking hot in here. Shut it down. We got that. Boys, any questions. Jamie Cove. Jeremy Cove, you have the last question for Mr. Campbell.

Oh, yeah. Philly. Fly Eagles. Last one. I feel like just off your vibe in hearing you talk, what's like the one big purchase you made after signing your big contract? Sounds like that truck. I feel like I didn't make too many big purchases after.

I got clear that TSA pre-checked. That was like the first thing I got. I'm like, I can afford this. And then, dude, I got a deal with X-Marx. I got a big old mower. zero turn. Love that. Like, I didn't even pay for it. You know, I just did sanitize it.

So that's the cool thing about some of these things. You don't even have to pay for it when you get the money, which is like nuts. Every opposite, dude, this is every opposite line. This is awesome. He's a Husker's a alum, but I love Jurgis. Love Jury. Some of these answers. Sitting there talking a Jurgie at the Bowl, by the way. I got clear.

How ridiculous is the Pro Bowl now? What was that? It's terrible. It was just like, it was just run by, like, social media people. Yeah. Like, we'd be in the hotel, like, chunker, and then we'd go to practice or ask somebody and be like, oh, you need to talk to somebody else. I'm like, what are you here doing?

Right. You just tell me where the bus is? Is there a bus? Am I walking? Do they need to bring back to the game? I don't know. If it's in Hawaii, you might as well. Like, Hawaii?

They're going to keep it that way. They just need fanatics and do their flag football stuff. You had to watch that? Was it good? I liked it. I enjoyed it. I had no idea what was going on. I was so blocked in the March Mademus.

I just had a little get-together. I had like 14 guys coming out this weekend, and they all shipped out yesterday, so it's nice to have a little empty house now. But we had like our master's draft. We do it every year, so we like draft our players for the Masters, and then we had like March Madness going on.

So like, it was just, it was a good weekend fun. Do that sound like a good good guy? Just getting all the bros together. A master's draft. How do you even do that? So we have 14 people. We draft five guys. And then you're hoping at least three of them make the cut because I think your top three guys

ended up getting scored. And last year, I only had two guys make the cut. And I was pretty much done after day too. What's the winner did? Just all the money. And then we got like, we got a green jacket. We got a trophy. We got a lot of like things.

because you're trying to make a yearly thing, an annual deal. When you get a trophy, you get a jack, and you get all these little deals, and you get the winners name on it. Like, it helps you get everybody to get it every year. I love that. Keep the Bears together. You know what Jim should be a part of? Us going to a franchise to get absolutely bombed with George Kittle.

Yeah. Yeah. You need that. Yeah. George last week was, like, just on a Tuesday coming up, we just need to go to, like, a local Applebee's, Chili's. chain restaurant, just getting me handed on the Tuesday afternoon. That was the thing doing college.

Applebee's, it's cheaper than pre-game into your house. Yeah. Yeah. So would you want to do that with us? Yeah, I'm down. Hell are you. What a way to end of the thought? That's it.

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