Bussin' With The Boys - Cancel Culture & Getting Replaced in the NFL Draft

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

Recorded February 21, 2022 | It's just the boys this week, but with everything that has happened in the past week there is plenty to talk about. Start pod (0:00) Dodgeball vs Daren Bates (0:00 - 5:04) Will ruins Santa Claus for Taylor's daughter (11:15 - 19:50) Knees over toes guru training (25:50 - 28:39) Matt Hamilton and Taylor being twins (31:08 - 33:45 Cancel culture & Matt Stafford's situation (33:49 - 57:30) Juwan Howard incident (1:00:25 - 1:04:00) Free shoutouts segment, fan got a tattoo of the bus?! (1:04:18 - 1:14:18) Getting replaced in the draft, handling pressure on the mental side, difference between college and NFL (1:18:50 - 1:43:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Georgia Boot: Head Over to GeorgiaBoot.com and Use Code BUSSIN for 20% Off Sport Clips: Sport Clips, The Pros In Men's Hair Roman: Go to www.roman.com/BUSSIN You Can Get Your First Month Of Swipes For Just $5, When You Choose A Monthly Plan Every Plate: Try EveryPlate For Just $1.79 Per Meal By Going To EveryPlate.Com And Entering Code Bussin179For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we don't talk about it unless we're like to get like on the pod. You just say, hey, hold that, hold that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel myself start to laugh kind of hard. Like, let's stop, let's stop. So I can laugh harder when the real thing comes up. So people think we're actually happy. Can't wait for you to tell the Santa story.

But. Oh, yeah, dude. What was it on? Roger, Saffold. Yeah, so Roger, the whole raw room guys, if you haven't heard of them, probably haven't. Darren Bates. For all that shit talking, dude, it's got me peeking in the competition realm.

We're competitive, dude. Darren Bates started of it, obviously, a good friend to both of us and a teammate, started a raw room. But they started talking about out of nowhere. I don't know if they said anything to you, but unsolicited. Just unsolicited, tweeting at us, like, who do you think would win in a teammate? dodgeball competition, Bustin with the boys are raw room.

Right. To which I see I see Roger Saffled Post some bullshit dude about how it's not the guys Oh no! Bro, JP, I hope you've got some savings, bro. I hope there's a fuck it. I hope that dollar giveaway hasn't been given away yet.

Because you're going to have to save up for that, dude. No way. I gave it away. Did you laminate it and sign it? Hey, what happened, JP? What? Not get the camera over it. Yeah, that'd be a professional, doggy.

Strips on the cord. Fuck. So Roger brings up this bullshit of how it's not the guys in front of the camera you have to worry about, it's the guy's in the back. Yeah. And Alex had a nice little gift too of the sniper.

Fucking little sniper gift. But I'm like, yo, Raj, like, what are you talking about? Like, we're nimble-ass cats. And he's like... You took a burst. I took a shit first. I was like, yo, he's just sub-tweeting. He knows I'm on his timeline.

He knows I see his shit. Yeah. So he just chirps me. So I say something. And then right after that, Roger has a whole different section, a whole different post about how a Taylor-Luan appreciation post.

I don't know what to do with it. There it is, right there. This is my Taylor-Wan appreciation tweet. Home is still where the heart is. It's like nine minutes later. Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, what the fuck does Hom is where the heart is

have to do with this? You know? Just responding with that little Chris Farley. I really was looking at gifts anywhere. And I was like, let me just fucking pull a Chris Farley out, dude. Love Chris Farley. Taylor is so funny, too. The most disrespectful tweet I've ever read.

Because he's like, you could have tagged us. He knows both of us by name. But for sure. For sure. But I think he was given, like, number one, I think he was signed him with Buston with the Boys, which in my opinion would be a no contest. It would not, it would not even be a game. I don't even want to play dodgeball.

I don't even want to do it. I don't even want to do it. But I just know that, like, we would win. Right. Like, how many guys are in his squad? Because we're rolling deep back there, dude. Dude. He's got four total?

Yeah. To me, I don't think it matters because, I mean, look at our cats in the back. That's what I think Roger's saying. I don't think it's us you have to worry about. Like, when you're thinking of the faces of this, yeah, obviously, like, we're the faces. But as far as the strength and the power, the muscle behind it, I do think it's our guys behind it. Who's our best dodgeball guy in the back then? I don't know.

Probably Alex. Alex. Oh, really? Alex played college baseball. That's what they don't. That's what they're not thinking about. Bro, Alex, I had no fucking clue you played college baseball. You play college football.

I had no idea. I had no idea, bro. Where did you play? Brian University. Where's that? Rhode Island. Fuck, dude. Is snow up there?

Yeah, it snows up there. A lot. You get a snowball fight ever, knock a kid out? No. But we have Alex. Yeah, we got Alex. And then, like, you know,

these guys up front, I feel like are intramural champions at some point. Camerian is at anything. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It takes the little hectic,

fucking boss pulls out the taser, dude. I called Jack to have, like, a phone call. maybe about his role or something on busing. And he was like, crazy. It's like 8.30 at night. Crazy. You just talking about that?

No, no, no. But we're like, whether or not we're going to fire Jack. No, no, no, no. We're talking about. So I called Jack because I wanted to tell, get your shit and move on. Or your playbook.

Because obviously he's been making those, those new trailers. Fire trailers, by the way. So we're talking about new stuff he was doing. And this is like, what, 8, 8.30 at night. And he's like, you know, we got to get off soon. And I got a basketball game at 9 p.m. Oh, shit.

You know, 930. You know Tanner Technini. Yeah, I know Tanner. He plays hockey Tuesday and Thursday nights, hacker hockey. He'll go to like, and he's just playing with dudes. No shoulder pads, just ripping up on the game.

For the love of the game, dude. Do you think you'll be like that when you retired 10 years from now? No. About football? No, because you're not ever going to play Inter Mirror football. Like, what do you play? Probably never play football again. Probably never play catch again.

It's kind of sad. Except for like Turkey Bowl. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about he said when you're retired. We'll unpack that in a second. I'm just talking about. Intermarial baseball. Usually a Frisbee golf guy to me.

Like, whatever you want. I would love. Frisbee golf's a good time. It's a great time. All right, Chevy Silverado. I hate when I see the blows to help, but I don't need to read that part, dude. I don't got to read that. And why am I even trying to read it?

Because I already know what I love about Chevy Silverado. Every single day I get up and I go, and I'm not like everybody else who owns a different type of vehicle. I turn my truck on and I know it's going to last as long as I want to drive it, dude. Even the gas mileage is pretty decent. It's a beautiful vehicle. the hard hat cats, every single person who gets in the Chevy just looks at their partner next to

them and goes, it's different now. That's it. And that's the way life is when you drive a Chevy Silverado. I used to drive other vehicles. I know you used to also will. Even if you drive like a car, like, yeah. Remember yourself driving something different on the highway and you drive up next to like a Chevy Silverado? Yeah. Like if it's kind of busted, you're like, this could be an in here. Yeah. But if it's a clean cut Chevy Silverado, you're like, you have a lot more respect for that person driving. Like you think yourself, I kind of want a truck. Even when I see a busted-up old Chevy, like I'm thinking to myself, that thing's lasted that long because it is a Chevy. You know what I'm saying?

Like I used to drive a tourist when I was a little kid, a little tourist, and I would get on the highway and I'd see Chevy's everywhere as far as I could see. And I'd get up to a nice burly silverado and I'd have to just cruise past it as fast as I could because I didn't feel like I feel like if we were right next to each other. I just wasn't on the same level. Kind of like driving up to an 18-wheeler. You like got to hurry up and get out. You got to hurry up and get through it. Yeah, absolutely. And there's so many things that the Chevy the Chevy Silverado can do, dude.

Let's see. Okay, where is that thing that I'm supposed to read? Start with the most functional bed of any competitor. Where does that say that? In the green right there. Best in class, standard cargo volume. If you get a close up on my eyes when I'm trying to read this, that'd be great because I want to see. With Silverado, you get the most functional bed of any competitor.

That's what you were saying. Don't laugh already, dude. I know. Don't laugh already. Let's start with most functional bed of any competitor. Best in class standard cargo volume. What's the Intergate? The Intergate falls to a large step for easily getting in and out of the bed.

Available industry first power up and down tailgate. Okay, what? Available industry first power up and down tailgate. So if I want the thing to go down, it does that, but people have that. But nobody has the one when you press the button also and it comes back up. That's a big deal. Or the available multiflex tailgate we've been telling you about with six convenient configurations. This makes the bed of the Silverado work harder and smarter.

Yeah, that was pretty good. I did good at that. You did. Chevy's also sponsoring Coach Prime. Catch you Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8 p.m. There's more? No, it was a, you know, it's got the little highlighter thing on us. I felt like.

Silverado, strong, advanced, dependable, and hardworking. Yeah. Go to your local dealership, let them know the boy sent you. And as you're driving this morning, when you're looking at these Chevy Silveradoes on their highway, you guys are going to be like, yeah, these guys make sense. The head kink. we've always talked about it. I do think I do think I need to see more people in our timelines

showing us the Silveradoes or the Chevys we've bought. I would agree with you. And I also think to myself, we could probably do a better job of that of showing our Chevys to let people know, like, we'll lead this, we'll pioneer this thing. I think as soon as this podcast is over,

that's exactly what I'm going to do. You know? I did today. I was moving to bed. Today, I know, I saw you. I saw you do that. It was unbelievable. Okay.

You did a great job. Thanks. You hit it right at 20 seconds, too. I tell you what, dude, it's kind of weird as I've like, and I'm talking to you guys, as I've like kind of like bought more into the podcast and like the social media world, I legit study Will and what he does. I'll see the link and I'll see the things he posted and I like try in my head like, I do the same thing, just reword it a little bit and Bing Bang, Boom, we're out there.

Dude, straight up. Yeah, like that's what I would do with the other folks. I won't give them all the attention to the world. That's what I would do out there and just kind of look at, not reinvent the wheel, put our own little spin on it. Yeah, dude. That was a way better job. Way better job.

And I want to bring attention to your, for sure. For sure. Yeah. But let's have some, you know, let's have some compassion. Right. You've done a phenomenal job, I think, on the Instagram stories. You've been posting the links at the bottom with the... Hey, I have been doing, I see that.

You kind of have... I know it's real when Alex... I think you. Yeah. Hey, I know it's real when Alex's the back going... Yeah. Absolutely. All the time would just do the share the story.

Just share the story in his mind. It's like, oh, I'm doing... I did it. The part. You're welcome. You're welcome, dude. But the easier you can make... Put my phone down and I go, fucking got them.

Yeah. And we're growing, dude. I said it down. My seat. But you got to give the consumer the easiest route, man. One click. One click. Everyone knows the rules.

You put it on the link and they don't have to press my story or bustin story and then go in to do the click. You have the click right there. Just make it. Why have an adventure when he could just give them the end result? Exactly. I like that. I guess.

That's kind of the opposite of any story you've ever heard. But like I appreciate that's a society we live in now. And I'm willing to give that to the people that want to be a part of it. Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean? what used to not be true or whatever that's true now? Like we used to all be at the journey. Like everybody, like, we didn't have that ability 20 years ago. Yeah, but it's a journey of how do I want to buy these socks.

Hang on, hang on. But how do I buy the socks? And then you're on Google for 10 minutes trying to figure out sock companies. And you're like, well, those are too big and those are too ankley. And these ones are too ruffled when you get them a little bit. These are too thick. And then one thing leads to another and you finally find the socks. And there's a fucking feat.

Dude, you might crack a cold beer. You might even grab a wood. whistle pig piggyback, dude, and you might even fucking open that thing up and be like, yes, we've done it. We did it. And now I got to put the link out. I got to put the link. Let's not.

Here's the link, my dude. You did a great job. Remember how tough that was. But here's the difference. You just spoke in the beginning about being a consumer. And then all of a sudden, you're like, now I got to put the link up. Yeah. Because now you're the business.

You're not the consumer. Yeah. So when you're on Google for 10 minutes at a time, those companies in marketing 101, you probably learn that your finance major when you were in college. Yeah. how do you make it as simple as possible for the consumer? With the click of a button. With a click of a button.

So those people stress in 10 minutes on Google, those companies who found a way and just found a way to just go one click and you're there, that's what you've got to be thinking about now. No question. How do I make this as easy as possible on my people out there? Damn. Are you my dad? No, you go.

I think you're like a father figured to me now the way you just talked to me. Not the way I told that I couldn't be Santa. No, you could not be Santa, dude. So what was I doing the other night? Oh, so my daughter, my oldest daughter, Win Rebel, she's a, we're trying to potty train Win Rebel, dude. And she's like, she goes to bathroom, she can wipe, she can do all the things she needs to do. But like at nighttime, she's got to wear the pull-up.

And the pull-up is where she has a tough time. And every morning we wake up, I'm like, hey, did you potty in your diaper? She says, yeah. Literally says, like this like this. Yeah, but I'm a kid. And that happens. She's so funny. Says it exactly like that.

And so I was talking to her the other night as me and her mom were trying to put her to sleep. And I go, hey, like, do your best. not to, um, not to pee in your diaper. And she's like, why? And then for whatever reason she bought up like Santa. I was like, no, you're not going to be on the Nile list if you don't, if you can't pee in your diaper. Like, that's not, that's how we rule.

You know, we're not, we don't rule with an iron fist type of mentality in the La Wuan household. Like, you're on the Nautilus if you pissed your bed. Like, who gives a shit, right? I still do that sometimes when I've had too many whistle pigs. So I call, I call, I call Will, dude. And I'm like, hey, what do you do? He goes, oh, you know, just at, uh, whole foods.

And I'm like, all right. Hey, I'm laughing to myself, dude, go ahead. I was in the cheese section. Garrett and JP know how I am, like, getting those box of cheese. I'm like trying to find the right snap. Because the housewarming part of this weekend. Yeah, that too. And I'm looking around at all the different cheese.

Taylor calls out here, you know, the Halloween theme song come up. That's Taylor's ringtone. Answer, he's like, hey, what are you doing? I was like, you know, I'm at full. Yo, you know, I'm at Whole Foods. Just doing it. He goes, hey, I'm going to call you back in two minutes. I need you to be Santa Claus for when.

I was like, hang on what? He goes, I need you to be Santa. Mm-mm. that's not what happened. You go, okay, and I go, hey, here's what we're going to do. Now, this is where Will's brain turned off. I go, I'm still looking. I'm gazing.

This is where Will's brain just completely turns off. I go, hey, can you be Santa? He goes, uh-huh, and then goes, done with the brain part. And this is now looking at his cheeses. And I say, hey, don't make this about naughty list or nice list. Like, just encourage the child. You're talking a little faster than that. Come on, you remember.

You remember the tone of my voice, but you can remember what I said? You weren't like, you know, hey, let's not. make this about the naughty and nice list. I said, don't make it about the naughty or nice list. Like, just talk to her and give her words of encouragement so she doesn't pee in her diaper as she goes asleep. And yeah, this is Will looking for the cheeses. And he goes, yeah, uh-huh. All right, cool, yeah. So, all right, hang up, change it from Will Compton to my phone to Santa. I go, when? I'm about to call him. She goes, call who? I go, I'm calling Santa. So I call Santa on my phone. And Santa, and Santa,

picks up. Santa also decides not to change one influxes their voice at all. It's just Will's voice. Who wins around all of the time. He goes, he goes, hello. Win, what's up, Stud? He goes, hello? And he goes, hello? He goes, literally

without fucking changes his voice, he goes, do you know who this is? And Wynne's like, Santa? And she's like, yeah, that's right. And I look at Taylor. And I kind of get, I look at Taylin, like, I'm the fucking dad of the year. Like, I just, I'm, I'm like, I'm giving her an eye shoulder struggle. Like, I fucking did this. Before Tiel can even crack a smile or a frown, Will goes, here you're having trouble

in the potty. Which is not what we talked about. It's about in bed. And he goes, she goes, I'm looking over. You got to relax. You got to relax, dude. Literally the first fucking thing he says is, heard you having trouble in the potty. No happiness in his voice.

heard you having trouble in the potty. Well, I've been looking over my list over here, and you wouldn't want to be on the naughty list, would you? And I look at Taylor, you said, you're toe in the line with the naughty and nice list. Like, without saying it out loud, goes, what the fuck is he doing? Like, mouse that.

I mean, I go, we discussed this. And he goes, you want to. And he goes, shh. Like, hey, what the fuck is he doing? Shish. Like, I have so much faith in Will. I know he's going to write that. He's going to fix that issue.

So he fucking, I know, I've shoved my wife. I've switched my wife to stop. stop listening or stop judging Will and knowing that he's going to bring this around full circle and be like, yeah. And I have to listen to Will for the next four minutes tell Wynn how if she doesn't get it together, basically she's going to be on the naughty list.

Like without changing his voice, then at the end, hey, hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no. At the end, he goes, he goes, hey, win. And by this point, Wynne's kind of like fucking done listening to Santa. Rose says an asshole now. He goes, hey, Wynn. Hey, Wyn.

Willa go and he goes, yeah? He goes, promise me you're not going to be in the bed anymore. And it's quiet for, she doesn't say anything. He does say anything. And he goes, promise me. Promise me, win. Promise me, wait. And it startled her.

Like, it was quiet for seven seconds, which is so long. Promise me you're not going to be in the bed anymore. Promise me. What the fuck, dude? I promise. She gets off. She goes, oh. Okay?

He just says okay. And fucking hangs up. She presses the button. Like, I'm done talking to Santa now. You're fucking at the red button. And I look at my wife and go, I'll let you fix that. And he's leaving and walk downstairs.

Went from thinking I'm the best dad ever to I might have fucked up my kid. That might have been a core moment. She was like, will you stop believing in Santa? The minute he was being an asshole to me. That's the minute I fuck. I stopped believing in Santa. I said, all right. I'll see you next year of Christmas.

Bye, wins. And we get off the phone and, In my head, I'm thinking... Oh, my God, dude, I'm sweating. I just body that. He can't fucking bite off the phone goes, you know what, I will take that cheddar. I will take that expensive cheddar.

I will take that expensive cheddar. I did a couple good things over here. I don't know if you heard. He calls me and goes, bro, bro, that couldn't have gone and I'm thinking he's going to say any better. He goes, any worse. And we just are laughing.

What are you talking about? Like, didn't catch any of the fucking words I said, dude. You do not to mention the naughty or nice list. I said, shit, I missed that part. It was the only fucking part. It was the part. Oh, bro. He heard an opportunity to be Santa.

He was stoked. You want to know what's while? He didn't read the script. What's up? Because we were all in a group chat. I'm just dying laughing. I'm sending voice messages. I'm just doing circles around Whole Foods.

Like crying, laughing, not getting anything off the shelves. I'm just doing lap after lap. And I did feel really bad about it. And the whole way home, I'm thinking about how I'm telling going to tell Charles' story. And I pretty much pretend to be Santa if I got another opportunity at this thing. I'm like, man, how could I have done this?

And I'm like doing it all on the way home. I think I'm pretty good now. But... Do you think what's the first thing you would do? Maybe change the sound of your voice? Oh, yeah, 100%. Oh, ho, ho. Talk to me as Santa.

Let me sit on your lap. Hi. Hang on a second. You gotta be your best Santa. You gotta fix this, all right? This is for my daughter. Oh, ho, ho, ho. Hello, Wynn. Do you know who this is?

It's Santa. Wait, no, no, no, hang on. Oh, ho, ho. Hi, Wyn, this is Santa Claus. We're on the phone, but I guess you're sitting on my lap. No, yeah, we're at the ball now. Okay. Hi, Wynn.

I'm fucking out of you, dude. That's terrible. That's terrible. Oh, my God. All that hurt. Oh, sweaty boy. You know. but you know

give you your best mess around dude oh Rudolph get off the couch you know how Rudolph gets when he doesn't play his reindeer games just kind of talk to her yeah I guess so

yeah did you really yeah that's so funny dude that's so fucking funny gosh oh you did it I mean

I didn't really he did it poorly but you got it done I got it done at the drop of a head you know what I mean like I didn't have any time to prepare.

You caught me in the middle of, like, trying to decide something. You know how my brain is. I can't focus on one thing at a time. Yeah, you got to open that mouth, dude, ingest it all. That's how it works. That's how it works. All right, we had an ad? Yeah, let's hurry up and get away from this.

Yeah, let's move on for that. An awkward point. Everybody's going to be sitting there listening to, like, just all the noises going on. Yeah. I'm Santa Claus. Hi, Santa. Speaking of what you might want for Christmas,

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You started calling me dad and stuff. It got a little weird. I'm like, oh, I couldn't be Santa Claus. And then we immediately got into the storytelling with the Santa Claus. By we. You thought it was weird because I called you Santa? You're like, what are you, my dad? No, I'm going to go on my dad now.

I meant that. All right, don't let me down. What do we got on the docket Alex? There's something I'd like to talk about, actually. No, fucking... Can we open some windows? I thought we were... I thought we learned about this.

Jack, can you hear about that? Hey, get shoes over there. Oh. Get shoes over there, kid. What do you want to talk about? Bro, I want to talk about Yellowstone. Oh, yes. Bro, I'm still about this show.

I finally watched. Dude, fucking late as hell. I know. And honestly, I thought, like, it was over. I haven't started yet either. Oh, my, Alex, you don't even want to fucking start it, dude. It's the best show of all time. Like, you don't want to, it's like, when you're watching Yellowstone, and I might blow

some minds here. When you're watching Yellowstone... Wait, are you going to spoil? No. Okay. We probably will end up spoilt. Yeah, there'll be a, if you want to step out, I actually, now that you say, I'm probably going to spoil everything.

I don't care. That's fine. There might be a spoiler here, too. When you're watching Yellowstone, actually, I am right now. In the first episode, when Casey goes to Kill Buddy and goes, and goes, in case you didn't know there's no heaven and then shoots the guy in the face, you're like, holy fuck.

This is a, this is like a hardcore Western TV show. Yeah. And then you get two, three seasons into it. Dude, it's a soap. You know how your grandma when you're on like Saturdays,

Sundays? We used to watch soaps. Yeah. That's what Yellowstone is. As the world turns. What's that? As the world turns, it was a so.

Yeah, days of our lives, we knew that shit. We watch it after Price is right. It's the same thing with a cowboy hat on it. It's the same fucking thing. Beth. has an abortion when she's this age. And then her brother didn't want her dad to know.

So she takes them to the Indian clinic. And then Native American clinic, excuse me. And then they go and she has to do a thing. But she also gets like, I don't know, well, she can't have kids anymore. Whatever the big word is for that. And now she hates her brother for life, but you spend like the first three seasons

trying to figure out what that is. And then Rip killed his, he'll kill the dad who killed his wife and his brother. And now he's like, doesn't even have a social security number. And then John's over here just killing and blowing up buildings. and never gets caught? Like, how has there not been a federal fucking investigation on this thing? You know what I'm saying?

They run the town, dude. You sounded just like him when he said it like that, too. They're on the town, dude. I'm just saying. How happy are you that you're watching Yellowstone? I'm so fucking happy about it. Man. The show's so good, but it is a soap.

It's so good. Yeah, that's how you last. Like, Game of Thrones. Like, that's soapy. I never watched Game of Thrones. That was hard. Oh. I felt the air pressure in here.

Anyway, I guess I'm I got nothing else. Don't come in my mentions and tweet at me about anything, which I know you're already going to do. What's this about? You see Miles Garrett this week? Yeah, I did. I saw him in front of MGK's,

the MGK's face like that? What happened here? Oh my fuck. Yeah, didn't he bet somebody a thousand dollars a bucket or something like that, a point? Yeah, he fucking murdered some people. That dude's a fucking freak. All-Star Celebrity game

I saw nothing but bad things on the NBA All-Star Week Why? Why does it suck? People were saying the dunk contest was so garbage And then that's a downfall of social media, right? You fuck up a little bit It's like you're on there for the next 10 years Because they'll be like, this last time on the dunk competition

This happened And but like 10 years ago, 15 years ago People would fuck up and be like whatever It's nothing Yeah, I think it'd be awesome to just fuck up Just fuck up a dunk dude Hey, can you dung? No.

No, man. I can barely palm a basketball. I got these Burger King hands, bro. I can touch the rim. Appreciate the choir. We got them little piece hands. Yeah. That one hurt or something?

No, I just didn't want to die. I continued to dive into having small hands and just being able to touch the rim. Because I wish I could dunk. You mad, bro? Yeah, I've always wanted to do it. Let it out a little bit. I'm going to be able to dunk one day because I'm doing that knees over toes. Oh, dude.

Yeah, I'm doing that knee's over toes. Oh, dude. knees over toes guy. You know what I'm talking about? He's over toes guy. Yeah. Wow. One week on his stuff, my back and hips feel so much better.

Like, I'm not all the way cured, but I feel like, I'm like, bro. They're stretching involved. It's awesome, man. I like it a lot. How long is it like a daily session? 45 minutes. 45, 50 minutes. That's kind of long.

Do you have a sled? Do you walk him backwards in the sled? Yeah. That's how you start every workout. Really? So you should start. Yeah. 100 yards, pushing it forward.

100 yards backwards walk. Another day might be 200 yards going backwards. So that shit actually works. I mean, I feel good right now. Damn, I might have to get on that. Because I was listening to their podcast. It's ATG podcast, right? Yeah.

I was listening to them and they don't talk a whole lot about what you need to do, just like kind of the results that they've had. But this knees over toe guy is literally taking over. He's like blown up. He had like 100,000 followers last year. And I think he's had a million or something like that. Yeah, he got to go on Rogan. Oh, he went on Rogan.

Rogan talked about him and then he came on Rogan. Did you listen to the one of him on Rogan? No, I haven't yet. I've followed him for a while, so I kind of like hear stuff there. Yeah. And then I've wanted to kind of like, I wanted to kind of know what the programming was. So that's when I bought into that subscriptions just so I could see all the programming. So you did it for 45 minutes.

It lasts about 45 minutes, but it's a full workout. But there's so many different programs. So if you're somebody where your knees are hurting, he's got a zero program where it's all body weight. Yeah. Because he gets you to where you're pain free and a lot of this stuff before you get into. to the next exercise. And then he's got like an advanced zero where you kind of mix in weights, weighted stuff and body weight stuff.

Yeah. Then you got the ATG program, the one that he does. You got a dense program where if you're wanting to add more strength, he has that. So he's got like a lot of different variety. He's got variety within the programming. How long have you been on it a week? Yeah, I'm on my second week right now. Damn.

Yeah, I think that might be a thing to do for sure. Dude, my knees and my hips and that low back has felt so much better. I feel like I've always said in one week. That's wild, dude. Because there's like a lot of good stretching stuff that he like incorporates in the workout. You know sometimes like when we're doing our programming and we know as athletes like we know certain things we need to work on for like mobility and flexibility. And sometimes we just don't get to it because it's not really on the sheet or in the programming. They don't make us do it.

You're like, oh, I'll do when I get home. I'll do it after the workout. And then you end up and you kind of get caught up and you don't do it. Yeah. So this stuff is like in the workout and I'm doing it like some stuff. I'm just like, oh shit. Like there's so many things stretching wise. And I'm like, if I would just stretch more, I would feel a whole lot better.

So is this one of those things where you could go and do that and that's training for you? Or you would have to do other stuff also, like upper body stuff? I add a couple extra things. Yeah. Yeah. You know good. That's nice. Sports clips.

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Damn. See, for me, I'm always growing my hair out until I'm not. until you have like a usually when you get your haircut I've kind of figured it out you have a photo shoot a family shoot to do I don't know if I if that's the case I'd have to I think it doesn't it's not far off yeah I try to think about you let it grow and then when you have like a family shoot like some family photo thing you got to do that's when you usually clean it up maybe I'll have to pay attention to that maybe check out the photos what's you talking about look at the family photos

and know when you're clean cut and look at any other point in the year and you look like this. Bro! I'm not saying it's bad. You look good. I haven't washed my hair in like four days and I just had down with the workout. So yeah, no, things are rough right now. How, uh, speaking of like, how's it look, J.P?

Bada bada bada boom. It's a lot of volume. I'm pretty sure if I just put it straight, it would stay because of oil. No. Maybe. You know, but you know how it is. It's kind of nice when you get the messy look going on. Yeah, that little homeless piece involved. I don't care as much vibe.

Yeah. Yeah. Kill me. End it. Byb. How's it been? I have so many people send me a photo. And I truly think everyone thinks that they're the first person to send me the photo of you looking like the dude in the Olympics.

Oh, Matt Hamilton? Yeah. Yo, I fuck with that. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean. Is that your doppelganger? I guess so.

I mean, you know. Are you happy about that double ganger? I don't really come at Matt in any sort of way that would make him feel insecure. But he's an Olympian. Why would he feel insure? Yeah, he's an Olympian. Look at that physique. Look at that.

Bro, the mobility. Talk about knees over toes guy. His heel is just like resting the rest of his body. Like that's like, how do you even get in that stance? Honestly, I think it's a great look. I think the lettuce is long and beautiful. But I knew Matt when he had the shorter hair. I think he can go with either one.

He's a man thinking he can wear both styles. I love the tattoos. I don't think he had that a few years ago when he was at the Titans. So when you guys, how you guys look alike, is it more of a compliment for you or for him, you think? I think it's definitely a compliment for him. I was very disappointed that you didn't come up with that meme. I'm going to be honest, when I saw that by PMT memes yesterday. No, but hearing Jack bring that up when he brought up that meme, when I saw that yesterday, when they posted that PMT meme, shout out the boys.

I was like, this should be a meme from Jack and I was disappointed that you didn't think of that. Damn, Jack. Because that's you. You come up with shit like that, bro. God, that's tough. Yeah, I could definitely see that being our love child, though. That is, that was funny.

That was funny. I think Matt actually DM me a couple weeks ago and he's like, hey, man, I'm sure you're getting sick of it. Everyone comparing us. I was like, no, I look, you feel like I'm a part of it. I feel like I'm also going for a gold medal right now. I get sick of having that. You know what I'm saying?

I feel like I was in it. he can come on the pub whenever he wants. I just get tired of putting the same laugh to everybody. It is like, oh, hey, hey, your boy Taylor here. texting me on the side. I had DMs, too, but I'm sure you have heard this before, but you look so much like this guy, it's like, hey. Yeah.

Love how loud thanks. Yeah, exactly. No, dude, that's a good dude. I don't really know him like that. He came into the Titans building one time after they won gold in the last Olympics. And he had the little medal. I think there's a photo and everything.

And it was awesome. He was cool. We too look a lot of like. Yeah, it is pretty creepy. The picture of us, with him and I have short hair, we look like the exact same. You guys got the same kind of style of mustache, too. Yeah, we have nice thick ferrets.

Yeah. We have like the same space from our lip to our nose. Taylor's been zooming in, pinch zooming and everything else. Do you know what I'm saying? Hey, can we talk about what happened on Twitter over the weekend? Whatever on the last Friday? My tweet was getting, it was getting so,

far out there that people started to think I was racist. So can you bring up my tweet? You were explaining to me on the phone because I was like, yo, what does everybody? This is the most, this is, this is peak social media. Yeah. This is the example of social media. 100%.

So for everyone that is aware of the Matt Stafford incident, when that photographer fell on stage and broke her back, fractured her vertebrae. Okay, let's pause. And I'm going to do this lot because I just want to, how far does she drop? I'm not sure. Straight on her back.

All right, that's a good fall. Tall ass stage. What was she doing? She didn't have a spotter? That's wild. Okay, so she falls off. She falls off. Are you going to go off of Matt's expression first?

Yeah, I kind of want to explain the situation. Go ahead. You see the camera angle where Matt is at the Super Bowl, our Super Bowl party. They're at the parade. They won it. 10 plus piggybacks deep. 10 plus years at the Lions.

Right. Not even going to the playoffs. Well, just winning in the Super Bowl. In general. Picture. picture you guys went in the Super Bowl this year. Of course, I'm tagging along. Yeah.

But we're all having a great time at the parade the next day. Yeah. You know what I mean? 100%. If somebody fell like that, if somebody fell the way she fell and I didn't know how far the drop was over, I probably react the same exact way. Right. Because in my mind, I'm not thinking about other people. I'm thinking about how dope is this I've won the Super Bowl.

We're having fun. I'm going to go do rest. We're just having the greatest time of our lives. Yes. Drinking piggyback. Oh, what else will we drink? Nothing. Maybe there were where I was.

but she falls and Matt reacts to oh shit and the way I explained in the video kind of like you're on party co if somebody falls out of a boat you're like oh shit did you see that his wife being a sweetheart goes over to her right away checks on her that's where the camera kind of oh wait look yeah

there she's getting down way more you wanted no part in helping her yeah no the thing yeah but I got to think of the situation he's in he's half in the bag cut and he's enjoying himself he's getting a picture with his wife and she falls I'm sure he doesn't even know how how far of a fall that is.

Well, he has no idea. When you see that, you feel bad, you feel, you know, I should have handled that way better. 100%.

There's no question that, I'm sure he would be feeling that way. Once you look back, he can go, oh, like, he probably turned around and was like, holy shit,

like the shirk this fella and his wife being like, yo, Matt, she's hurt, like, oh, fuck. Yeah, exactly. And then he came up and probably helped her.

You know what I'm saying? But the situation, you're like, the last thing you want to do and this sounds, this sounds super selfish, but you win the super rule, the last thing you want to do is have your vibe come down at all.

And that fall, you're probably like, oh, fucking just turn around. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're like living in like denial. Like that didn't just happen. We're still partying. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm getting at? And I'm not saying it's right.

I'm saying like you're just trying to keep that fucking feeling alive. Like doing it blow. I think. Like if I was in that situation. knowing myself, I could easily see myself going, oh shit, turning around, playing into like a subtle bit for a second and then turning back around. Yeah.

And going and checking. Did he turn back in the video? I'm not sure. Did he not? No. No. They also don't know. The video didn't go any further.

Into, you don't know she broke her back. Yeah. Like, you don't know what actually happens. If he stayed and attended to her, more cameras would have been this one. He don't know. There's no. So his wife came back. I don't know if you can really listen to anything Blas says back there.

The Rams won the Super Bowl. Do you think Bloss is happy that the Rams is Super Bowl? I think Bloss is saying you got to go check on her right away. Yeah. I mean, that's just ultimately. I agree. I'm not saying I disagree with that. I think everyone coming after Stafford's throat about it is just kind of like, bro, like,

you got to just understand the situation that's going on. And I get that she just fell. Like, yes, if you're watching this and you're Matt, you're probably like, man, I look like a fucking asshole right now. Yeah, because his wife's first instinct was to go and help her. is what's to turn around. Right. But you got, yeah.

I understand, but he's not thinking she just fell down, broke her back. I'm fucking out of here because I'm an asshole. You also think about like what, like where they're at. Like there'll be, if that happened 10 times to me, it would probably be five. Oh, holy shit, is this person okay? And doing something like, oh, what the fuck just happened taking a step back? Yeah. Based on what mood you're in at that moment.

You know what I'm saying? You are programmed like that because you're a cop. Like you're always going to go help people. You know what I'm saying? So your first instinct is always to do that. that I think I think you guys are right any way that this is

this is not okay that Matt did this but it's like you shouldn't like you know burn him at the stick like the guy like he was trying to have a good time

didn't understand how serious situation was and turned around like that's really it right? Yeah I think you're saying too doesn't understand

how serious the situation was this is actually my first time seeing this view to where he there's no he didn't go back at all yeah you want to run it back

yeah Bank, bank. Now, how did she fucking go back again? It looks like it's probably six or seven. Suit. Do one more time. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah.

Oh. And she's down. I don't think that's, that can't be. Look how tall his wife is. How tall is Matt Stafford's wife? Don't look it up. It's not important. I mean, yeah, it's got to be like a six foot drop.

It's definitely not 10 feet. No, it's not. You think a six foot drop you think you're going to be eye. 100% right if you don't know it's there I wish he came out and was just like dude I was drunk I won the Super Bowl I wasn't in my right mind to help there

I think yeah I think that would have been outstanding Alex Lagos I think that have been outstanding idea to do that what did he end up doing it looks like he is so I'm I want to continue to explain what I'm at Matt right there in the black shirt no Matt still left now this whole this whole scene not seeing him come back at all

I just saw the TV camera angle where he turns and it looks funny for a subtle second, right? Yeah, that's all he starts out. He returns back to the frame here as he and his wife are walking off right there. That's it. So they conveniently cut. That's a tough look.

Super tough look. But they might have cut it because it cuts. The video cuts. So it cuts from her helping to then her walking out with Matt. So he may have come back to him. And it's just not in this. He might have. But even if he didn't, like what you just said was the perfect thing.

Like, I was drunk. I was celebrating the Super Bowl. I wasn't the right mind to help. and not understanding the severity of the situation. I think you can't, like you said, can't burn a mistake for that. Should he have helped, Blas? Yes.

We all should have. Anytime in any business situation. We should have done more. We should have all done more. I wish I won the Super Bowl too so I could help somebody that fell off a stage. If we ever win, I might push somebody off the stage just so I can help.

That's fair. Do you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right? And that's what it's like doing blow. It probably me back in up. So what happens next?

So you fucking kill this. So what happens fucking next, dude. So essentially what happens is you got Taylor giving his, us giving our commentary up there, Blas in the back saying, ah, nah, put that in characters on Twitter, people going back and forth, massive blow up over what Matt should or shouldn't have done, right? And we all just kind of figured out. We all had the answer on bustle with the boys. Then Adam Schaefter posts about Stafford apologizing and paying for her medical expenses.

What I think is a bold and probably a good move? That's a good move. Couple sides. How well does Matt know this jig? Couple sides, because I don't like, yeah, good moving stuff by him, but also like the fact that he had to go and pay for the medical expenses because ultimately what?

You just, oh, you look like such an asshole, you should pay for this because she just fell off the stage. Yeah. But then also, it seems like his wife much, you know, sweetheart. Yeah, much more. involved in charity work? Yeah, much more of a sweetheart.

She probably offered up and they're good people and wanted to pay for it. Yeah. But at the same time, the fact that he gets kind of guilted into paying for her medical expenses, because if there's no cameras, there, nothing happens. Obviously, people leave dispersed from there like, yeah, Matt Saffert, he was an asshole. Did she react anyway? Did she say like... She just said, hey, guys, I'm doing okay.

I broke a couple cameras waiting on, like, x-rays now. Then she tweets, um, unfortunately, I broke my back. Unfortunately, I fractured my spine. That's not funny. You made me laugh when you laugh. That's not funny. You should be ashamed. Yeah, exactly.

But then she tweets, unfortunately, I broke my spine, or I fractured my spine. Everybody's blowing up about it. Matt gets gilded in, paying all this stuff, doing all the things in. Yeah, but why is it about Matt that she fell? That's just how it is, man. No, it's an example of Twitter. Yeah, it's the example of Twitter. He's the Super, he won the Super Bowl.

He's the quarterback. People are going after Matt Stafford because he was there. He turned around, blah, blah, blah. then people are so fucking mad about people going after Stafford that they try to argue so hard against like Kelly and the other side that they go and dig up her old tweets back from like 2014 I believe it wouldn't right who wouldn't say in the N word saying some derogatory stuff saying like she had an Asian thing in there um

she had an Asian yeah she like racist through obviously through an Asian thing in there You're like an Asian. You're making a soup. A dash of this. Yeah, like, you know, you are a F word. Yeah, you are a F. Who's she saying that to? Or she just sub-tweeting somebody with that.

And, you know, one person retweeted that. Yeah, you know, replied to my Fing Tadherndtend word. That's in 2013. But digging up her old stuff, mind you, this chick is just figuring out that she just broke her back. And the next day, with this day, 48 hours, 20 hours. She's getting canceling drugs. I'm not saying what she's saying.

Like, yeah, clearly. Who the fuck is quote tweeting this one? L.O.L. V. Well, people are probably grabbing it from the other day. Not like back then. Kelly's old tweets. Kelly is the girl. They're both named Kelly.

Almost just shot in the ghetto because C, Davey 4 wanted to F with N-word. That's true. True. The funny vines. N-words be grabbing anybody. Yeah. I'm crying. Hey, hey, listen, let me finish a story.

We can stop for all the commentary. You know, that shit is how fucking funny. She ends up deleting her Twitter because she's getting drug so hard on social media. It's hilarious. And that's fucking Twitter. That's the end of the whole thing. Hey, when you send that video,

but if she said those things. We got to kill her. Dude, that shit was so funny. But is that not a clear example of, like, Twitter right now? Bro, wild. Twitter, period. Not right now. Like, what you're doing?

Dig it up. Dig it up. Dude, so when I got drafted, like, the night before I got drafted, my agent's texted me and was like, hey, delete these five texts me, these five tweets. Because there was not that strong. Come on. No, I think I called something gay. Like, someone posted something, I just, like, replied gay.

You know what I'm saying? I got a couple of days out there. What's that? I got a couple gays out there. Yeah. But I'm saying like that's crazy that people are thinking about going and digging something back up from eight years ago. That's wild, dude. Wild.

Dude, it's just so crazy. She shouldn't have said that. That wasn't right for her to say that. They're right. She shouldn't have said those things. Right, right, right. But at the same time, she hasn't, she hasn't gotten, she hasn't gotten the results of her MRI that says she has a broken back. Yeah.

just laid in the hospital. Hey, Kelly, don't check your phone. Like, what is happening on my phone? People just killing her. People are like, yo, step up press conference right now. Fucking apologize. Say fucking sorry. And show us how you've changed.

Step up right fucking now. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, dude. And in other people were also mad. Twitter first came out, it was fucking lawless, dude. Imagine being a kid now, like a 12-year-old kid now and having Twitter. Just saying the most random shit. I've told you the story when I was 12.

Have I told that in the podcast? before about I had two black friends and they said you can say the N-word. Yeah, I've told that. Like, imagine if I had Twitter back then. I would just be saying my N-words this and N-word that. All the cool white kids have been in that situation. I was not cool in middle school. They got a couple of black friends that say like, hey, you can say it.

And you're just dumb. And you just say it. You're like, yeah, I'm cool as fucking. Because you don't know any better. In Arizona, you have no idea. Right. No fucking clue. That's wild.

But then imagine somebody coming to dig that up on me and be like, yo, Taylor is racist. And like, all, she must to be racist if she didn't go back and scrub all of her stuff. I'm thinking, what? Like, she's like, yeah, I meant it. She's not going back. I'm leaving out of 14 and being like, fuck it, dude. I'm letting that one say, I might retweet that one now.

Yeah. It's back on a fresh. Still holds shit. Yeah, she ain't. I mean, I don't know the girl. She might be a terrible person. She might be a great person. I don't know.

But like, this stuff is pretty fucking wild when everyone wants to dig up people. And what was my tweet, Alex? It was like, holy shit. Kelly Smiley, I believe her name is. Kelly Smiley. Holy shit, the photographer, Kelly Smiley, who accidentally broke her back is getting drug now for old tweets.

Just another day on this app. Fucking wild. So it starts doing its thing and it starts against the audiences that I was just kind of stating what was happening. Bro. And people are like, oh, crazy coming from a straight white guy like yourself that doesn't know shit.

I'm just thinking, hey, the video you fucking made of you being like, hey, come here for a second. No, we'll be right back. And he take the fucking phone in the pantry. Do me a favor? Shut the fuck up. And it cuts off. That's hilarious.

That person ever respond to that? I think he said I'll deflect because you don't know any better or something like that. Like, okay, go yank one, dude. But it's like shit like that. What is it say? It's nice. It's nice when straight white dudes have an opinion on things they don't even understand. Like, how's that tweet not racist in itself?

it's just like that's where you just had to you had to go get the favor enough people enough people must have commented on his profile pick they're like zooming in on him he changed it oh no shit yeah people just want to be vigilantes like that and like there's a place for this

here I am like playing both sides of the fence I don't want to yell that you can do both these things at the end of the day man I support everybody yeah at the end of the day I mean, hate is just anger, hate. Extreme emotion like that is just so hard to carry on, what, your entire life. Yeah.

At some point, the anger ends, right? No. When you die. Well, yeah. And then you die, you die an angry-ass person, right? But usually when anger wears off, you kind of just come to, you start getting a little more wisdom about yourself and you realize I could have probably handled those situations better. You kind of become more angry with yourself.

And then you realize, okay, I need to start letting that you go. I wish I did X, Y, and Z different. Yeah. I wish I would have to handle that way differently. That's kind of the huge bummer I keep trying to, like, say is like, with all this tweeting and stuff, like, all the things we thought five, ten years ago, I bet we don't have half those opinions anymore. And like, now today's society, we're not allowed to go back and be like, hey, I fucked up.

That's my bad. Everyone would be like, it's all good, dude. Keep moving. You know, like, people got to get canceled. Yeah. 24-7. But cancel is also not a real thing. What do you mean?

Cancel is not a real thing? You're asking to get canceled by just saying that, bro. I don't think. Cancel. No, you're right. I think you're right. Cancel is not a real thing. It depends. What world do you live in? Maybe he cancels as an actor. They really do that shit. Right. No, I see what you're saying. We're not going to get canceled. Joe Rogan. He's not canceled. People have been trying to cancel him for years. Yeah, but Joe Rogan, his livelihood doesn't depend on those who are trying to cancel him. He's built his own. He's built his own thing.

So you're saying if you're actually an employee, you can be canceled by just getting eliminated from your job. not even an employee if whatever you're getting a job yeah what it gets back right Kelly Smiley's gonna have a hard time getting a job at that level yeah at that level in anything because a lot of people who won't hire her just because of that for sure absolutely that's sad man that's crazy if you Google anybody like the thing we talked about um me threatening that girl in college if I was working a regular like trying to work a regular job that's one the first things that come up when you google me and no one really knows what the true story as other than what I told you you know what I'm saying yeah so that

that's like a version of getting canceled. The only reason why that hasn't canceled me is because I play football and I'm good at it. You know? Yeah, but you wouldn't get canceled because it's like all the legal stuff happened. Yeah, but listen. With that situation, there wasn't legal stuff.

It's people bringing it up. Like when I said actor in the first, in the beginning, like as people who view movies, if you have enough people that come up and say, Dwayne the Rock Johnson is X, Y, and Z, he acts like this. He'll be taken off of things because one of the writers agree,

the producer agrees, or whoever's funny in the movie probably agrees with that person's saying. And now you're getting canceled for that. The people like Joe Rogan don't get canceled because he has his own audience that even without Spotify would thrive. So you can't really cancel Joe.

You know what I'm saying? Unless he does something so outlandish that we all are against Joe. And that's the only way he can't. Like everybody does that. But what Joe did, the way he hit, handled the situation, said, hey, I'm sorry, and let's move on. I'll learn from it.

Like, what better way to apologize and be done? Instead of saying, oh, I agree with that. It might be better to say, like, there's a scale. Like, there's a scale that some people, some people just say, it seems like, you know, some people just can't be canceled. Like, Joe, at this point, can't be canceled. You know? Like, you couldn't be canceled right now because of this podcast.

You're kind of free to think whatever. The people who back us are barstool who kind of lets people freethink and act a certain way up to an extent. Other than that, like if you were, if we were, I don't know, backed by CNN,

we'd have to watch everything we said, or Fox, for that matter, pick whichever side. But because Barstool doesn't really have like a political,

like, agenda, we can kind of say and do whatever we want and not get in trouble. It's all about who you're, the masses you're trying to, I don't know,

a piece, thank you. That's the word I'm looking for. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. It's a tough deal because you should really be able to,

Willie can't get canceled. Yeah. Willie King. Do you know what I'm saying? I see what you're saying, but even like I think I thought the CNN and the Fox one kind of plays, but also not as much. And I might be reaching the more I'm trying to explain. But all I'm saying is like it depends where you're at.

Like what? Like mid-tier type jobs? No, like. No, that's fair. I think that's fair, yeah. I mean, think, think about it. Because what I'm kind of speaking to, like, cancel culture is not necessarily real. I'm thinking of people they actually try and cancel

on like a daily basis, unless you do something truly that's like criminal that you get thrown a prison for. Dave Chappelle, his whole last standup was about the LGBTQ, LGBTQ, don't want to miss a letter. A lot about cancel culture. Yeah, and yeah, and everyone tried to cancel them up to that, but Dave's one of those people. You can't really cancel him because he applies the both sides like or dislike him. You know what I'm saying? It all comes down to the audience. It comes down to the honest.

Thank you. I don't know why I couldn't say that. It's mad at you for whatever reason. there's companies that market to those audiences. And if they can't be associated with you, then they might tell you behind closed doors, hey, well, we love you, man. We love what you do and all that.

But like, our audience doesn't fuck what you like. Right. So we can't work with that. Our stocks going down. Our stock's enough of that audience to do the pressure that. Then it's, you are canceled. Good luck making money. You know what I mean?

That's why a bunch of people are telling or saying that Joe Rogan should go to, what's the rumble or whatever, that whatever where it's like freedom of speech, kind of like social media? because Spotify apparently is a left wing app. I don't know enough about politics to say that. But like, I think that would be a bad idea.

Because then like whatever war you're trying to win, left or right, if Joe were to move that, it just wouldn't prove any points. Yeah, I think Joe doesn't, you know, I think Joe handles it, has been handling it the best. Yeah. People say to me like why he shouldn't have apologized? Like, why wouldn't you just say sorry? But again, though, to me, that type of thought process, too,

plays into their anger of what they're mad at. It's like their own thing. Oh, he shouldn't have to say sorry. It's kind of like, well, if you watch this video, he had a lot of, like, grace with it. He's talking real well about it. He's kind of saying what he's saying. Yeah. Like, it's his own, he can handle it however he wants it.

Ultimately, you know, not that he doesn't care, he cares enough, obviously, to come out and say it. But I thought he was handling it well. And not that he had to do that or didn't have to do that. I don't think he showed that he had to go do that. And people are like, oh, he shouldn't have to apologize. It's like, well, I think you're kind of mad about something else. You're not necessarily mad that Joe's apologizing. Yeah.

They have no idea what they want because Israel at Asanya, he came out and backed Joe and he's an African-American fighter and he did it publicly on stage and people were upset at him that he's backing Joe. And it's like, what's the resolution we're looking for here? There's no resolution, dude. It's as fucking, we play this game every year. I feel like that's kind of something I guess I was kind of speaking towards is the people that get talked about are like these athletes and celebrities and high, like level people. And usually that's what the conversation revolves around. Like, Kelly, to me, this is kind of the first one to where now I do kind of see, oh, damn, yeah. I guess the cancel thing could be real in her world because this is something that kind of stains her resume on any employer that wants to hire her because everyone's so hot out there and behind closed doors.

Hey, Kelly, we love you, but we can't. This could be too hot for us. There's also the fact that Twitter is not everybody. Like, it's a small chunk of people that are very, very loud. So you have to factor that in as well. That's not what everybody thinks. That's what a piece of Twitter thinks. I agree, yeah.

If she's something over and over and over again, you're going to believe it. Someone says that this chick's racist over and over again. Your mentions are constantly filled. It's like, as an employer, you probably look at it and go, is she? I do think, like, employers and just people in general are becoming more aware of the fact that Twitter isn't a big, like, Twitter isn't a representation of what the world is doing. It's, like, what do you say, Jack Lawless? It really is to an extent. Like, it's just fucking crazy out there.

And to me, people who say all they, all they should. to watch this or they shouldn't have said it. It's like, yeah, let's look at your text messages back when you were in high school and college. 100%. Either whether it's about race, about women. I mean, we know all being men on here the way you can speak. Yeah, the way you can just... About bitches? The way you can speak about everything. It's like, if we're going

an eye for an eye, like let's scrub everybody's old messages. And it's like, okay, you said all this stuff in private. You know what I mean? Back when you're young and dumb as fuck, dude. Yo, like Dave, Dave Portnois, Dick slapping buddy who was trying to cancel him. Do you see that interview? Yeah. And he's like, who's got a fiancee that's name so and so. And that dude just gets bloodshot red. Like he knows his has been caught because he said the N-word. Like,

that's a big thing too, dude. People just want to be fucking vigilantes and not want to look in their closet of skeletons. And they know how they're manipulating, trying to manipulate the masses on, you know, on social media. Yeah. We got to hit this fucking ad. This thing's been flashing back and forth. Yeah. Let's change the vibe a little bit to that little Tony bedroom vibe.

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It's all the head. It's the head. It's like lytocane. that's what I just said. Do you want to say to put it on the head too? Because I just said that also. Do you want to put that out there? This is exactly what the phone call was like about Santa. Yeah, not in a nice list.

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Yeah. And it's a little fucking napkin, yeah? It's a napkin, Jack? Jack was telling me it comes in this black packaging, no name on it or nothing. You just know what it is. Yeah, it's the street. So people don't even know what it is.

Yeah. It's got to be awkward though when you're a little tips you and you bring the girl home or the guy, whatever you're into and you're like, hey, I got to use this bathroom real quick. You got to sit in there for, what's the time? Five to seven minutes? Really?

Who knows? You know, you know how long something dries? You know how long something dries? Bro, that's fucking hilarious, dude. Yeah, I think that's a genius little deal. Shout out Roman. I might actually even try that. You already use them all up?

Yeah, bro, they go fast. Can we talk about this sportsmanship by your boys over in Michigan? Well, yeah, go blue. Let's see it. Have you not seen this? Looks like little white guys getting mouthy. Just keep watching, man. So Joanne Howard, Wisconsin runs it up on them.

They beat their ass by like 14 points. Where's he at? Oh, boom! Go back. No, what? That's how it was. Dude, sometimes an open hands

more disrespectful than anything else. Open hand. Open hands off the worst. He's an assistant. What? I'll tell you what, dude. First off, want to start off by saying go blue.

Even though you guys really let me down, you guys fucking let me down hard on the jersey sales. Nebraska is definitely reigning supreme on this bus right now. But when Juan Howard hit fucking buddy, he didn't phase him at all. Didn't fucking, when he gets hit? Look this. Nothing.

Yeah. Yeah. He went for the full and I'm just going to ease into this. I'm going to lose my job. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, dude. I mean, if Juan Howard did it, a stand-up Michigan man, guy probably deserved it.

You know what I'm saying? Win with grace, lose with grace. And all of a sudden you're enabling punching people. That's not graceful? That's an open-hand slap. That's poetry. Oh, this is a better angle, huh? Yeah, you know what?

Here's a deal. I agree with what Will said, Win with Grace, Lose and Grace, but when you hit this guy, if you're gonna fucking, if you're gonna, if you're gonna fucking hit this guy,

lose with grace. Smack his ass, dude. Like, he barely even touched him. I would have, I mean, I know people that would have. I would have beat the fucking shit out of that, dude, man. It depends what he said. So,

you do the arrow thing behind my back, by the way? No, not behind your back. I did it. I just tried getting out of the way of the mic. I'm talking about losing with grace, winning with grace, losing with grace, and your bow and arrowing. I really think that,

first off, he deserved that. Yeah, I don't win or lose with grace at all. I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. But it looks like, oh, buddy, the assistant came out of nowhere. He didn't have to be involved in that.

Yeah, he hit him with it and another thing. Yeah, yeah. Like, even when he was over to, can you bring that video back up, Alex? Even when he came over, you can see that that tall white dude was, uh, mouthing him. And Joanne Howard is still just looking at the coach who was probably telling him, I think he said, don't put your hands on me. Like he said, like, don't touch me. I'll slap the shit out of you, you touch me again.

That's what Juan was saying? Or white boy. Probably. And then see, because look, you see how he was looking at him the whole time? The white boy came into the picture. Yeah. And started talking shit. what happened after this?

Was there a brawl? Oh, yeah. Players are going at it. Oh, and then the Wisconsin... Wisconsin... Wisconsin goes in the fucking... Damn. Is that what Big Cat was laughing about on Instagram?

Big Cat was having a great... Fucking doing the cry thing? Yeah. The fuck out of it, Big God. That goes through the crowd shot, sore, because he knew no one's going to happen. He did the whole bye-bye, sore loser. Like, go...

Yeah, go cry about it. You get fuck out of here. That shit's wild, dude. That was hilarious. You hit him with the DX, bringing the WWE bag? Yeah, that's tough. Michigan lost. That's tough.

What else we got, Alex? You want to do some free shouts? Ooh, free shots. What we got here? Free shouts segment of free shots of the boys out there? What's a segment of free shouts? Free shouts? So we always get people diving in and posting stuff in our DMs, posting stuff, tagging the boys, all that type of stuff.

So I figured we could shout some people out. Shout the boys out. Check the ladies out. Kevin Bailey. Devin Bailey Oh should we put the headset on for this? Oh yeah, we gotta listen No

Waring a busted hoodie Oh yeah 100% Is that my voice sounds? Yeah Coming in hot Straight out of Texas Buster with the boys

That's good So Texas His voice definitely doesn't have Hors out of Texas Buster with the boys Yeah Devin Bailey Hit that again

Let me see how fast that goes Coming in hot Straight out of Austin Texas His voice does not sound like that in real life, dude, we need to find a real video of him. Yeah. But hello, my name is Devin. Just taking that, uh,

who show. That chug butt to the head, bro. Go get him. Come in, hot, straight, Ash, in Texas. I talk less with your teeth, Devin, but also great fucking chug butt. You know, we're supposed to be nice to the fans, but we're also, like, chirping the fuck out of him.

Does you get, dude? It's a win, it's a win, win, win, lose, whatever you call it. The chug butt fired me up, man. Yeah, Chuck Bud's been killing it, huh? You're in the store right now. You can go get the chug buds. Pop the things on top? Chug bud.

Yeah, there's a lot of ways to drink a beer. That's probably the most fun way to drink a beer. It's the most efficient. No question about it. Smooth. When you do the chug bud? Yeah, yeah. When you do the chug bud, it really seems like you know how to chug a beer.

It's like a PED. It makes you look better than you are. You know? You would know. Hey, you got to admit, man. You just fucking. That was, hey, we'll slam this on my fucking head. Don't do that, dude.

Don't do that again, bro. Bro, don't fucking do that again, can I got you, man. I didn't want to. I'm like, is he wanting this? I thought he could say, That's terrible. No, I knew it was coming. All right, what's next? Anthony Jirkinson. Anthony Jenkinson. from down under. Oh, yeah? A quick 250 piece in the shop. Is he from Australia for real? Because people hit me up all the time from Australia all the time. Six people have hit me up from Australia and be like,

go, we're going to fucking send it across the sea, down under, all this stuff right here. Some people have figured out. Some people in Europe have figured out too. So there's ways. I don't know what the ways are. I haven't needed it.

We got to figure out what way that is so we can help our European friends out. That is nuts. The boys are internationally. Hey, we're worldwide. Australia and Europe? It's crazy, right? Yeah.

Just like that. How do you even find it? Yeah. Yeah, you find on any sort of app that you want to look at Spotify. You're out there doing your... Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, anything you want. That's how you find, Boston with the boys.

And then obviously after that, you go on the website, you type it in, you put you to subscribe, you unsubscribe, you do five dollars in a comment. You're at there doing Europe. You're out there doing Australia. You're like living your little life out there. Like, do we ever think of other people's like pausing stuff overseas? Like I see like Lionel Messi and stuff,

but I don't think, oh, is this dude got a pod? You know what I mean? Like, how does it make it? Yeah. How does it make it to him? Lionel Messi. What's his name? Leonel.

It's not how it's spelled Lionel. I was with Will. My Lionel is pretty fucking dope. I was like, yeah, they're making fun of Will. They look like idiots. I was with you. I guess we saw Ted Lassow. Hey, you sound so American right now.

Dude, I know I do. But that's why I'm so curious. That's awesome. I think it's so sick. Like, people talking about I'm from Australia and Europe. I'm like, Yo, that is fucking crazy. You know we got the best entertainment, though.

Everybody's watching the show here. At Boston or just America in general? Both. Column A, column B. Yeah, I guess, like, you know, your fans of the Titans and the American Sports and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, but it's crazy to even think of the fact that, like,

people are fans of the Titans outside of America. Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? Where is Tennessee? Yeah. Dude, I'm not joking. When I first got drafted, some old lady asked me if I played football. I said, yeah.

She said, where? I said Tennessee Titans. Just asked me if that was an arena league team. You know, I've told that story a bunch, but like, now how is somebody in Australia, I'd be like, yeah, I fuck with the Titans. Right, right. I think that's wild.

That's awesome. It's like, listen, I don't watch all the soccer stuff, but what do they call the international soccer? Right, like the Premier League. That's an example. Usually people are. JP talking down to you. I know, yes.

I know JP's a huge fan. He got his arms crossed. US Premier League. Yeah. But like usually if you, if you kind of like a fan of soccer, I feel like you play into the favorite teams, right? You're not like,

you're not understanding every team that's over there. So I just think it's wild. I think that's cool, man. Yeah, that's rad. Shout out Jacob Anthony. Well, yeah. The next guy. But yeah, definitely shout out Jacob Anthony.

This is a different person. I'm like taking a trip right now. Well, give the other person their due. Give the other person their dude. Who's the other person, the Aussie? Anthony, Jen. Jenkinson. Jenkinson.

This one's Jacob Anthony. Jacob Anthony. I got the same fucking tattoo as me on his knee. Oh, wow. Do I further validate Tier 1 or does this suffice? And he's got a wolf tattoo on his knee just like... Make that bigger. Make that big.

Let me see that thing. That's a... That's a good detail. That's solid, dude. I mean, it's a dope tattoo to begin with. I don't own the tattoo. You know? It's nice to...

Taylor... He said C&D. Fucking kick a knife to his house. Fucking carve it off. Just get real aggressive. Just that, bro. I don't know, man.

I feel like I'm... Where are you, bro? What are you talking about? I get what you're saying. It's like a weird gratitude of kicking in of like, yo, this is wild, man. This is awesome.

Yeah. Like, dude got a tat. And wants to message us and be like, does this tier one validate? Does this validate me as a tier one? That's a fresh tattoo too. He just got that when he sent it. Shout out Jacob Anthony.

Yeah, shout out Jacob Anthony. He got that shit. Oh, my God. For the love of God. Yes. No way. Like, you love the boys that much. You got a butt, you got the bus tattooed on your.

And that tattoo goes fucking hard too. Is his arm? Yeah, his arm. Like inside? I think outside. Inside. Yeah, it looks like inside. Look at that, man.

You got some beefy arms, bro. Some beefers. Bussing. Like, that's so fucking red. That's fucking cool. It is super weird. weird to think that people just like to listen to us. That's kind of a weird concept, isn't it?

Yeah, but we have a good time around each other. Yeah, but doesn't mean everybody else is going through also. We enjoy each other's company. It's like, oh, you know, a lot of people are like us. Yeah. This is like, we're just gaining friends every day. We're just coming in and being friends with us. All right, I'm jumping on the gratitude train.

What else we got? Did we, I forget if we talked about this off the pod or not. But do we talk about cuisine yet? Ooh, Couges. Hey, this is what Nick was telling me about. Nick who? Nick, your boy, Nick. Nick Bennett?

Yeah. What's Cougine? Something appropriate. He's like, dude, Coozine. Look at Jack. There he goes. He like tastes food. Oh, this fuck.

And then when you said the ha-ha-ha-ha, yeah. Nick was asking me. Yeah, Nick, like, sent me a video of this guy, and we were kind of on the move. So I saw it. I just figured it was a funny video, so I just put ha-ha-ha-ha.

And not understanding that he was wearing a busing shirt. And Nick was like, so do you know him or what? I go, it's just funny. I go, it's just funny, look at him. Without ever listen to the video at all. Yeah, I didn't listen to the video at all. What does cuisine do? He just, he'll cook sometimes.

He'll review food. He's just on here, always doing stuff with food. He's got a jutee. So this actually is the second one. He's done two now with this crew neck on. He did this one today. This is him today? Yep.

With a busting shirt on. Dude, this is the second time. Oh, this guy fucks with Bustin. Well, let me hear it. I want to hear him talk. His voice is so good. So good, bro. Honestly, can't go wrong with a fucking sausage.

Oh, you know, I don't expect his voice to do that. Honestly, can't go wrong with a fucking sausage. My wife. I need about 18 Tylenol's. 40 gallons of water, 14. 18 Tylenoling. Where is this guy from? Struggling.

Yes. Winning most. I'm lying. I'm losing most. Win some. It is what it is. I'm from Ohio. This ain't Ohio.

Thank you. jeans. I got tuned up last night so now I'm clogging my arteries. I got clogged your sister last night. Oh, this guy's a fucking legend. Oh, this guy's a fucking legend. All right, two guys is. Boston or Chicago?

No. Jersey, New York, man. New York. He's already said in New York. He's already said in New York. Who said that? Alex already did. It's crazy. I got the headphones on. 40 gallons.

Hey. This guy fucking rips, dude. Go follow this guy. It's meals. underscore buy underscore Kooge and that is spelled C-U-G I gotta follow him right now dude

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I don't know if I like having this headset on with, because I start hearing my voice. I want to do different things. Like what you just did? Yeah. That was for me. Yeah, and it kind of changed throughout the read. Yeah, it was just I was trying to figure out where it lived.

Yeah. You know, what home is this voice going to stay in? We have, we had questions? Do you my reading so good? When Willie becomes a girl dad, do the boy? Boys release it for the girls line from Gilbert Romero. Huh? I think so.

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You know? She barks at me like I don't fucking know her. I looked at Garrett like we're trying to show her moment. I looked at like she doesn't fucking know me. Five minutes later, she's all about me. And she steps on my testicles every six seconds. Really annoying. Oh, my thoughts on Juan Howard incident.

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Thoughts in one of players highly drafted for your position. Does it create motivation, anger, or upset with the front office? I haven't been through that. I guess I have the last two years. Yeah. I mean, you've had a couple situations. Before the roster shakes out or depth chart or anything, anybody gets to OTAs or any of that stuff, right? You still go through the process of watching it happen on draft day.

Yeah. So before you even understand and you just see a left tackle get drafted, like last year Dylan did and then Conklin did a few years ago, right? Yeah, Isaiah Wilson was two years ago. Dylan was last year and then Jack was going into my third year. Right. I don't think, I have zero anger about any of the other. that. Like, my whole thing is,

um, in the last 28 years has been three tackles at left tackle. Uh, Bhop, Ruse and myself. Like, personally, I would love it if they did find a replacement before I did leave.

If it took a year or two to groom him or help him out, learn the ends and outs. That way, um, you could be a mentor? Yeah, there's some sort of consistency. Absolutely.

But you think you could be a mentor? Yeah. I'm an outstanding mentor. You don't think it could be? I don't know. I have been. I feel like I could see you being like the cold shoulder or don't fucking talk to you.

No, no, I'm not like that at all. I was actually, Dylan was at my house eating lunch today. That is true. Yeah. I'm all about the boys succeeding. I think earlier in my career, I was definitely like that where I didn't want anybody who was like even remotely

interested in my position. I did not fuck with. And I think as I get older, I'm like, I just want, I want everybody to get paid. I want everyone to, like, I want all the left tackles to be successful. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? It's a weird, it's weird how you kind of like go from like not wanting anyone but you to do good in a weird way too. I just want if everyone does good, it's good for everybody. Right. You know what I mean? It does well. It all falls back on the player. Yeah.

Not even just that, but the individuals of the like left tackles start the league. If left tackles ball out, they get paid. And the next person up gets paid more and more and more. And it just helps the market more. You know, because at the end of the day, like you're not really competing with anybody else but yourself, especially when you get to this level. So what's the, there's really no problem? with other people doing well. Like Trent Williams, best tackle and Lee.

Yeah, I mean, the question is like when somebody gets drafted high at your position. No, I have no animosity towards that. I think they're supposed to do that. And once you realize, like, once you realize, like, that they're not out to get you as just business, there's no problem I am at all. So, so, we see it so differently. That's how you see it? No, I don't see it like what you said opposite-wise.

But, like, when Rishon got drafted to the Titans, when my first year in, 18 when I was here. Yeah. You kind of just know what time it is. Because when I signed, you're like looking to compete and get, you know, some PT and like be a starter on the team. And then when somebody like Rishon's drafting the first round, for me it's kind of like motherfucker.

Yeah, because you know, like, if Roshan does good or not, it doesn't matter. He's going to be the one playing. He's going to be the one playing. Yeah, I think that that is different because just where we're at, where we were at in our careers and where we're at now in our careers. Like, it's just kind of like that. And when Washington and I was playing his stuff and then they drafted it,

I won't say they drafted Sue, but just linebacker came across the board in the second, in the second round. I didn't feel really any type of way just because I knew I was the mic and I felt like he might be getting in somebody else's spot. You're immediately kind of hitting up that because I wouldn't, you know, didn't see a linebacker coming. Yeah.

We're in the group chat with him. The only time I ever felt that way a little bit was going into my third year and everybody was talking about drafting Lamarie tonsil and moving me to right, which I was never going to play right tackle. And then we traded back after I had a conversation with John. and then we traded up during the draft of eight to pick up Jack and I was in the wait room working out and Russ Grimm came and got me

and we're kind of walking and say hey the new kids here I want you to meet him and we're walking I'm just quiet I'm not always saying nothing and he goes hey this kids are right tackle you're all right okay cool that's like the only time I ever had like a moment of insecurity about that but I think that's also being younger in your career

and not being like I wasn't established you know what I'm saying? So for me that for me that's when things changed. Now it's like if they bring somebody in great, like that's actually a good thing. And if he doesn't beat me out, left tackle,

there's four of the positions. Hopefully he can play that helps the team. Yeah. No, you're very right about being in different aspects of career. Like, you're going in what, year nine? Yeah. Yeah, I feel you on that.

Because in the younger years, you got to catch up to the boy. Trying, man. You might watch out now. I might get a year of 10. You have to put a couple of years. You might have to put a couple more in. Is that a possibility?

You actually need to do 10? You never know. Never say never, man. Justin Bieber said that first, and I believed it ever since. That's outstanding. Yeah, I was all I had. My head was always on a swivel every year because. Different situation.

Yeah. You're not seen like, for me, I wasn't seen as like never going into an off season as the guy for the next year. Yeah. So I remember a coach came up to me, Aubrey Pleasant. I think he's the DB coach for the Detroit Lions now. Awesome coach. And he was just the assistant at the time. listen to DB coach, but he came up to me because he knew I kind of like, you know,

I'd just be like, I'd be curious what was going to happen. Like, hey, what are they thinking for the draft? blah, blah, blah. He'd be at comp. As long as you always know you're going to have to be the guy that scratches and claws and, like, you're just going to have to earn it every year and you're okay with that, then you'll be fine. Damn, that's a great advice.

Yeah. He's like, because you'll never, he's like, I'm just keeping a real with you. He's like, you'll never be seen as the guy. And that's just for, you know, scouting, all the stuff that happens. Like, you just won't be seen that way. coaches could see you and be like this, you know, this will be will spot, blah, blah, blah, blah. But he's like, there's so many different variables and factors.

He's like, as long as you understand that no matter what happens in your career, you're going to have to earn it, like, and you're okay with it, then you'll be fine. Now, it's all it was kind of like, you know, it's kind of like, damn, I mean, he's right. Yeah, how did you feel about that? Because everybody wants to be the dude. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Like, it kind of sucks because, again, you want to be the guy. Like, you want to be the dude. You want to change the front offices and the coach's perception so badly that you can be a great player in the league that you're looking for every which way to find an edge in the off season to get like that 1% better all the time. And so when you just know you're kind of putting that box no matter what, it just kind of sucks. And then you do, you just got to realize like the whole nobody's coming to save you mentality thing. Yeah. You just kind of, you got to just keep on fucking pushing, man.

Because it's like the reality, right? Like what stress or worrying or anything else is going to help the situation? It's like nothing. Like he told me, he kept a real with me, and you kind of just know from then on out, like,

I'm just going to have to fucking grind every year. Yeah, I wonder how that's going to look to kids as they're growing up now in the world of social media we live in because everybody sees like success. When before, when we were growing up,

we didn't really, other than the newspaper, like you didn't really see, like the massive success people had. And when you watch them on TV and now like, everyone kind of sees the end result right away all day, every day. It's like, where's the work ethic? Where's the work ethic going to go?

Right. And all the quote unquote branding and social media and stuff. Like, which people, I'm sure there's, there's guys that play before me at Michigan. There's guys that play before me in the Titans and play before me anywhere. Who knows who I am who are probably like this fucking guy. Like, he just thinks, you know, oh, he's going to do social media.

He's going to do podcasts. I'm sure like, dude's think about that. you, but it's like, if the world's changing, you got to change with it or it's not going to work out. Adapt or die. Right. Exactly. I just wonder where that's going to go with these kids.

Yeah, especially because kids are so easily influenced. So you see a kid, right, who has like maybe a big social following that kind of is seen as like a prodigy. Like you're so easily influenced as a kid, that kid's getting it. All these other kids are like, you know, I need mine to kind of look like kids and look like that. They obviously already mimic us and athletes and pros and stuff. But you see a kid getting love like that.

You start to realize, like, maybe I. need to start doing this. Hey, mom, dad, feel me doing this or your friends? Yeah, who knows? It is going to be interesting how, like, the landscape will kind of look with all the, you know, social media,

the work ethic, the everyone's getting a ribbon or a trophy. Yeah, something as small as like even having a blue check on Twitter. Like, when we were coming up in high school and college, like you couldn't have a blue check unless you were. You had to know somebody.

You had to know somebody and you had to like be getting drafted. Right. Or like be in the league or make the 53 man roster. You like you had to achieve something to get. get it. I see dudes all the time who have like blue checks and they're in high school. And they're stoked. They're so fired up. Dude, remember when you first got the blue check? Second year in the league.

Holy fuck. It was the best thing in the world. We were driving moving stuff back with my mom and I was like, mom, the boy just got a blue check mark. And what she said? She said, what's the head? That's fucking awesome. Don't worry about. Just keep driving. But it's the best. And you think those kids like, what's going to happen when it's all over? Like, you're done playing. And people just don't know who you are anymore.

Yeah. I mean, that ultimately is what happens. There's a lot of guys that I played with who went and got drafted and then came back in our working day jobs like real estate agents accountants, all that type of stuff, and they're verified. Verified? Yeah. Verified real estate agent.

Yeah. Not for that. Just because they got drafted. I don't know. It's crazy because you kind of like. Oh, it takes a couple generations and we're, you know, we're all forgotten about. Oh, yeah. But like, how do you deal with being forgotten about when you're done?

Like for, like for me, whatever. when I'm finished, I think getting over the fact that people are going to know who I am. But take Bustin aside of it, because Bustin will obviously curb that. But as like, if I was just a football player with my personality, which a lot of people have like an outgoing personality,

want to go and play football and then people start to notice you are, that's a great feeling. And then like, how do people handle that when the light, when you can't go play into the lights anymore? Like what happens after that? Yeah, no.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. Like it's just kind of like, that part's over and then you're in an identity crisis. That's why a lot of guys have struggled so much, I think, transitioning is you go from this roller coaster ride, right? Now you're trying to think, what's the next roller coaster I'm trying to chase? Like, what's going to give me this high? And then you kind of don't know what you want to do because you spent the whole time in the league,

not, you know, being curious enough and figuring out what you might do with life at your football. Then you get out of it and you're like, oh, shit, most of my life will be outside of football. Oh, for real. Yeah. That's crazy shit. It's wild how lucky we are just to have this bus. And that the shit just kind of worked out. Yeah.

Because without that, like, we really, there would be no, you'd be transitioning from ground zero. You would. And eventually, I'd be transitioning from ground zero. We'd just be trying to figure it out. I think how transition.

Hopefully the investments that we had would work out. But like, this is kind of something that in a weird way, there was a lot of work involved, but like kind of fell into our lap. And we were able to, to pioneer something that nobody else was doing at the time. Yeah.

Identity-wise, we'd be starting from Ground Zero. I mean, the head start that we have on the real world playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, you know, your head starts a little... You deserve... I mean, I'm not saying... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, we start off with, you know, millions of dollars.

Yeah, even if you play two years in the league, like, your head start is awesome. Right, right. But, yeah, having this... I'm not talking about financial. I'm talking about from a, like, you as a human being. Yeah. You kind of feel like... You live in a fantasy world.

Right. Yeah, I mean, we're like, for lack of a better term, coddled. Like, we're seeing, we're put on a pedestal. I don't think there is a lack of a better term. I think that is the term. Your silver spoon, your whole life, you go to a major university, Power 5 school like you and I both did. And like, for me...

Hang on. I got to correct the Silver Spoon, and there's no Silver Spoon my whole life. No, I'm saying as an athlete, just the face of being an athlete. You know, we're Silver Spoon. No. You know, we go to... We know how the boys grew up. I'm talking about when you get to college and like, well, everybody else is grinding through it,

trying to keep their grades up while paying for school. Like, we like kind of fuck around, party, work out. And then you're like with me, I'm sure you were a good student. I was not a good student. I was going to be up an academic center. Like they basically like the life of a student athlete is a difficult thing to do because of how much your time is taken up. but your hand is held the entire time getting through

like passing school. Right, you have all the resources to be successful. All the resources. It's kind of on you if you want to fuck it up. So you get like a, like I'm not saying you did this or I did this but like you get like this feeling of like you can kind of do whatever you want

because what's the entitlement? That's the word. You get a feeling of entitlement because like you're granted all these things that a lot of other people can't have. And then God forbid you make it in the NFL. And you're like in the NFL now, living the dream that everybody else wants to live growing up. And then you have an off season.

That's why so many do is get in trouble. Their first off season, their first and third off season. It's wild. Yeah. No, you bring up a good point. It's got to be. It's just crazy. Like, when did you know you'd be going high?

In the first round? Yeah. When I got my first scholarship offer to Utah from Utah State. No, no. No. I mean, did you really know you were going to be drafted? Oh, I knew it was going to be a first round pick. the second I was Utah State

It was twin ball That's kind of delusion No I said Yeah okay Utah State Yeah the Aggies When did you start Like

To me it would have to be Confirmed When you're playing at Michigan And like oh I'm a I'm a legit I'm a legit fucking beast Because yeah You can think I'm gonna go first round

But we're all kind of delusional Like Yeah And youth football I was running back I thought I was gonna be the next Walter Payton Yeah

You mean when was it confirmed? When was it confirmed When I got drafted But I'm saying in school at Michigan, you would have had to have known you're getting sized up with everybody across the country. Yeah. Like when did you know, oh, I'm a legit-ass dude in this country?

When I knew I was like good. Playing left tackle. Oh, after I played my retro freshman year. That's awesome. When I played like, I started the fourth game or the third game against Bowling Green. It was the easiest game I've ever played in my life. Either in high school.

And I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, this is college? This is college football. this is going to be a breeze. Yeah. And it kind of was. That's so crazy, man. That's fucking weird to say, but

college football is kind of easy as fuck. Is that just weird? Yeah, that's, I mean, fuck, that's awesome. I remember being, I remember being, fuck damn, water bottle. I remember being in college and legit, just did tell me I was,

yo, just do it like this. It's not that hard. And dudes were like, what the fuck are you, like, getting mad at me. Like, bro, just fucking, it's easy. Dude, I would look at this guy named Chris Singletary. You could probably be so hard to be around.

Oh, dude, like... Yeah, that makes you so many friends. I was the worst... I was the worst version of myself in college by far. Like, if people, if you meet somebody that knew me in college, they probably think I'm a dirtbag. Horrible person. But especially in the football team, too.

But college is easy as fuck. Like, I was... We're going to talk about Chris? Chris Singletary? Yeah, he was, he's like one of the recruiters. And we would call plays and, I would just look at him on the sidelines and put one hand behind my back and block guys with one hand

and stared at him while the plate was going on. They were so bad. Because, like, I was, I don't know. I just worked out. But I was terrible in high school. I was fucking awful until my senior year. And when I had offered, that's why I said before. Like, oh, I'm just going to be,

I'm legit going to go to the NFL. I'm a first round pick. Yeah, that confidence is awesome. I know that's something I had to kind of work on in college. In college? Oh, bro, I would go back and look at my old high school film just to like see myself have some juice. I've heard you say that before. Yeah.

And you just like, what made your confidence to wind up like that? I don't know. I think, you know, Coach Bo is hard on us. Yeah. And we would get, you know, we would get like David Coach is hard. And you never wanted to mess up. And I caught myself. You know, I would see Rex Burkhead and he would make it look so easy and kind of just stuff would roll off his shoulder.

And I was like, hey, Rex, like, is there something you do? to have like this aura about yourself where you just kind of continue to progress like in a game. And then he put me on the book The Mental Edge by Kenneth Baum. And from there, when I read that book, that's why I started getting in sports psychology,

I started to get in all of that stuff, that I was essentially using my brain at a disadvantage for myself because I was always afraid to mess up. Yeah. Like I never wanted to mess up. I wanted it to succeed so badly that I would be nervous messing up, like open field tackle.

I would hear like a coaching back, you know, you're going to have to make this open field tackle. You know, coaches don't know if you can do it. And stuff like that would just be ingrained in my head that damn, I don't know if I can make an open field tackle if the coaches don't believe it. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, that's wild.

So I would have to like get out of my own head and, you know, senior year was awesome. And I mean, even junior year, like, it's not like I was playing bad. I'm just talking about my journey with my brain. I never, I was never, like, that was be, awesome to have confidence to look on the sideline in college ball and block somebody with one hand and just put another behind your bag just to like kind of show off yeah yeah got sometimes in college too but right but but you the way you thought about it you're like you know I'm gonna

bounce right fucking back like if I made a bad play I back fuck the coaches are just gonna fucking like just gonna suck being in the film room I get that 100% you get that more in the NFL like did you feel that way in the NFL also when I got to the NFL and uh coach haslett he's the D coordinator. We're out in the preseason. And I miss a tackle, but I missed on the outside. I was a curl flat player. And I miss on the outside leg.

And I came over and I was just like, fuck, they're going to rip my ass. And I came over and I was like hanging my head a little bit. And Coach Rahim Morris, he actually just did an episode on the pivot. He said, hey, comp, fuck that play. You miss on the outside of leg. That's where you're supposed to miss. I'm thinking, supposed to miss. What is he talking about?

And from then on, I was like, oh, shit. Like, you kind of just move on to the next play here. Yeah. And I felt like a freedom. I felt like I have a better, I look at my pro career a lot better than I do my college career. Yeah.

From that aspect. From a mental standpoint. From a mental standpoint. As long as you know what to do, you'll be fine. Yeah. I'm like, oh shit, they don't, they're not like verbally abusing me for missing a tackle or missing a play. In college, you really do that.

Yeah. They're like, hey, comp, don't worry about it. You miss on the outside leg. Just, you know, try to keep your feet a little bit more. You're good. Pat me. I think you start coaching the next thing. I'm like, oh, shit.

Like, this is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. The mental stuff, if you get into a little, like, I don't know, like, you start fucking going downhill a little bit. Right. That's hard to get out of. Right. Especially when you're in the middle of season.

Like, I was this year. Yeah. I mean, it seemed like you were kind of dealing with that after the week one. Yeah, fucking big time. We talked about that a little bit. We talked about the podcast, too, like, the first three weeks after that was like, am I going to be okay? Right. You know, is life going to be okay after this?

You're like doubting your ability. You know, 100%. And now it's like, like we said, we get far. they're removed from it so you feel a whole lot better. You start working on the mental stuff. When you start working on the mental stuff, it makes everything easier to understand. And you start realizing you were all good.

Like, that's all, that shit happens. Yeah, for me, it was, it was never about, like, the play. It was about putting my worth in my ability. And if I wasn't able to do that, then I wasn't worthy of anything else. And so for me, it was like being, like as a kid, the only time I was giving love or affection was when I achieved something. So if I'm not achieving the things, whether it's a pro ball or an all pro, or at the height of whatever I'm doing in college, high school,

then I'm not going to get, I'm not worth it. And I'm a failure. That's how I don't what we were talking about last off season. I was like, I'm going to the pro bowl again this year. Like, well, what if you don't? I'm like, well, then I failed. And it's fucking over. You know what I'm saying?

And here we are like literally, it's crazy because like every single possible fear has come true in the last three years. I feel, I got a PED, I tore my ACL, came by, in the ACL wasn't as good of a player as I could have been. And it's like, there's nothing really to fear anymore. Like, it's all over. And you realize, like, yo, I put so much goddamn stress on myself. For nothing.

For what? Yeah. So I can have somebody that I don't really know telling me I'm good. Yeah. Because people would be like, hey, well, what would you have done differently like back in, or how great was college and stuff? And I'm thinking to myself, like, man, there's some stuff I kind of just don't remember because I feel like I just want to not think about it.

Because I want to tell that young self, like, yo, stop putting so much pressure. on yourself to be like perfect to like do like yes all that stuff helped me like I wouldn't change it at all I don't want to change my story at all but the way I thought about it and the same thing like you're so good going up through like little leagues and high school and if you weren't like the man you're worried yeah then like who are you so I feel like I like no I can't take any like when it be seasoned or times where I'm like not drinking or anything like that like no I can't do that like I got to be this I got to be that yeah you come like loosen up a little bit I was the same way my senior of college.

Yeah. Wouldn't drink. Didn't do anything. We lost to Ohio State and I went off the deep end fast. But yeah. During that I was like wouldn't drink or nothing. Like I, like for me it was like I was talking to like a sports psychiatrist. His name is Armando.

I still talk to him. And I'm like he's like, we're like trying to break down like what the issue is. And he's like, he basically like, he's like, pretend you're in a room and you're talking to your younger self. And he's like, tell him it's going to be okay. And you're like sitting there like trying to like hold back tears. He's like you can cry. So I'm like.

crying, just trying to talk to this five-year-old me saying, hey, I love you no matter what. And then you go to play the game. And even before I go to play the game, I think to myself, like, hey, no matter what happens, I still love you. And then things got way better, way better after that. Because you stop giving other people, like, value and how you feel about yourself. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I almost choked up even talking about that. You know, I was kind of watching you. I lost. I almost lost it right there. watching you getting a little like, damn. He's getting in right now. And then you know. Yeah.

So, yeah. You know, we're advocates for therapy, but being in them therapy rooms, man, like, there's nowhere to go and you got to sit there and talk through, like, what your fears are. You can't distract yourself. You can't move on to the next conversation. You can't make it about the next person. Like, if you're trying to get to something with me, I can't just all of a sudden make it about you or JP or Garrett. You got to sit there and, like, talk through stuff.

Like, oh, no, let's go back, like, talk about. Yeah. You were saying this. Go more into that. Yeah. But yeah, man, I feel you, bro. It's like, and we're obviously not up here advocating saying like, oh, I should have fucking partied my ass off.

It's like, no, I should have just understood and had a little more perspective and like giving myself a little more grace with like, yo, stop taking the shit so seriously because you're like identifying with it. Like, it's all good if you fail. Like, that's your best, your best learning comes through failure. Yeah. Yeah, because if you never lose, then you're not really going to gain anything. Yeah.

Really neat in life. Yeah. No, I'm with you, dude. And you just said something. You just said something before I said learning is, oh, experience. I mean, you can't teach experience because you're right. Like people do got to kind of experience their own. Yeah.

Experience their own thing. I think that all the time, though, if I can go back, if I could just go back and do one more year or this or do that, it's like, yeah, but you wouldn't, you wouldn't, if I had the same mind as I did, if I had the same mind now and I go back to high school, yeah, I'm going to thrive. but that I wouldn't have had half the things that got me to this point yet. Yeah. That's a weird deal. We wouldn't be who we are now. 100%.

I saw a little It's all the ending. We were just kind of talking shop right there. Yeah. Hey. What? You're an interesting guy. You know what's going to be a banger?

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Oh, I think the Nelkebril is. No boys might be coming on. Let's fucking roll with that. Yeah, dude, the bus is moving. Yeah. Figuratively. The bus is moving figuratively. God, I love this bus so much.

I think we're going to get some new equipment. And we're going to get some equipment stuff going on, right, Blossie? That should be coming soon, but the boys are rolling, man. Maybe get a new mic stand. Yeah. We've had these ones for us three years. Maybe we get some new ones, some nicies. Upgrade a little bit.

We need to get Ray back on the bus. He won't. He's a cell. No, he won't coach at the year. He can't tell fucking Ravel nothing anymore. He tried chirping me last night. He took a screenshot of the jersey, the jersey thing, and he goes, what do you got a jersey for every game?

And I say, you got to follow the rules like everybody else, man. I can't make any promises. Yeah, he's probably skiing somewhere right now. Just fucking loving himself. Just sitting somewhere looking in the mirror and beating off. What? Because he fucking did it. Just stare at the mirror, stroking that thing.

I'm just talking to people like. Yeah. I get it. He's fucking talking. He's telling some bell hop at some fucking Aspen resort right now. Why he should be doing this job better. Yeah.

And he's, hey, trust me, you should believe me. He holds up the Coach of the Year trophy. You should fucking see. What do I know? I only played 14 years in the league won a few Super Bowls.

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