Bussin' With The Boys - Chad Johnson

Episode Date: February 10, 2021

For the 85th episode of BWTB, The Boys welcome Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson on The Bus for another monster pod! To get things started, Chad discusses what brought him to Nashville, Will revisits all of the tweets he's sent Ocho over the years, and The Boys look back on some of Chad's favorite trash talk from his days in the NFL. Next up, Chad explains to The Boys how he was playing on "All-Madden" throughout his career, who he thinks are the top wide receivers in the game right now, and he may or may not have said he still has 1 NFL season left in him. After that, we hear about his unusual path to the NFL, playing semi-pro soccer, and Professor Ocho schools the entire Bus on what to do on a first date. To close out, Chad addresses some of the rumors from his first couple of years in the league, what it was like playing for the New England Patriots, and a couple of projects he's working on in the media world. Enjoy! ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Bose: http://bose.com/barstool Paint Your Life: https://www.paintyourlife.com/ Roman: http://getroman.com/BUSSIN .For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And so that's always a big one. Big, uh, big guests today. Huge. Maybe not the most biggest guests, but one of the biggest personality guests we've ever had, um, on the bus. And I'll tell you how it started from our eyes. And I like to hear from your, from your perspective. So Chad Johnson, Chad Ocho Sinko, however you like to know him, one of the best football players, receivers of all time was coming into Nashville for the Browns Titans game obviously a huge Titans fan

as we all are and says what am I going to do in Nashville well got he came in with the COVID mask COVID's going down still right we're still rolling down those trains so there's not a lot to do all right you're not a drinker you're not going to go hit the bars like that you know what I'm saying and you know what do you like Johnny Cash yeah okay so Johnny's a legend I'm glad one of the same I've had for three times already okay I'm sorry you can do it hell we let a fly man yeah yeah um johnny cash is a legend country music solid out there but at the end of the day with the covid stuff this this town is pretty much built on alcohol and entertainment take the alcohol out boom now you got 50 percent right so people start hitting you out bust with the boys i start getting tagged

and then wills will sends a little group text message like with the big eyes hey chad's in towns what if we got chad what if this happens what if that happens right so my fuck around i tweet a little something hey harass the guy all right make it a little more difficult for him will ends up sending you just an eye little eye emoji right in the corner so you send it back now busting the boys is now i now i want to get in there too because we're all chasing cloud at the end of the day right you're the cloud train so i'm fucking i'm in it to win it on that now you end up following busting with the boys and now look at us huh who would have thought not me hey i have tweeted at chad and i know you've seen um numerous times to get on busting with the boys are you saying that

this most recently this is the only time you've seen me too tweet for you to get on bus with the boys. It's hard to see because when it's repetitive over and over, I can see it. Your little show more, stuff like that. If you do it by yourself, then it gets flooded out with so many other people if I tweet something out. Yeah. I knew it was going to happen when you said, what should I do in Tennessee? And I knew I knew our fan base.

We have a good fan base. Because, again, they see me tweet at you. We've been trying to get it going for a while. And so I knew it was like, cancel Christmas. We're going to get them on this bus. And then I came in a day early. I came in a day early because I haven't been to Nashville since. I don't even know what year that was we played the Titans.

I mean, Pac-Man was here and Pac-Man had to cover me, whatever. Whatever year that was, like, I'm going to come in a day early so I can see what NASP was all about. I don't drink. I say, I don't club. Find a McDonald's and find a Starbucks. And maybe one restaurant to go through the night. And that's pretty much it. I came in a day early.

As far as, I mean, what are you like, is a steakhouse guy? I feel like everyone's like, I didn't find a restaurant, steakhouse is the end category. We're in Cincinnati, so you know Jeff Rubies. Jeff Rubies does rip here. It does. It's been here for a few years now. Is it Jeff Ruby's here? Yeah, there's a nice little place in the back room there.

They got some good stakes. But there's some other spots, too. Bourbon steaks, a nice little deep piece. No free shoutouts. Came prime. Guess what? Bourbon steak. You're hearing us shout you out right now?

You better come with the check next time. We fucking mention your name. You know what I'm saying? It's not how this name rolls. Kane Prime. We need the same. Cain Prime. Pink.

fucking checks need to roll in, boys. All right? We're helping you out. But yeah, so tell us from your perspective. Obviously, you said there's a lot, you get a lot of mentions. And you tweet damn near every 15 minutes. It's very impressive, the shit you're putting on the old social media. Content is great.

Content is great. And it's solid. But what made you think, okay, bust what the boys might be the right thing. Did you look into us at all? Bus what the boys might be the right thing. That might be the right thing for us. Obviously, will. I know of will.

Obviously, so why not? Especially with me being in the day early, having nothing to do in the middle of the day. Why not? I'm with urban outfiters. It got me an outfit to wear today. And here I am. 40 bucks later, why not? Yeah, I love it.

You're very thrifty. Very. You're very frugal. You're on record a lot talking about being frugal. It's always been that way. A lot of people, eh, they don't like it. Yeah. I think people seem to more be concerned with looking like they have it even when you don't.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you respect how frugal we are with this bus coming in? I saw you poke your head in. You weren't really sure coming in here. She can go down. You start, you pulling the. the back of where you pulled in.

I don't want people to know where we are. You pull into this. This is a lot of little of things that can go down in the back of a shed. You know what I'm saying? This is nice. This is really nice. I like it. We actually two months ago had a group of homelessmen break in.

And they just moved the couches around, slept on the floor. Turn this place into a soup kitchen. Yeah. Yeah, I promise. They had to file a police report and everything. Should have recorded that. You didn't, we didn't have, uh, I mean, obviously if we were to saw him break in, we would probably say, hey, you can't come here.

Right. But they slept. They didn't take anything. and the only thing they took is they took a box of merch. Like that box of merch, they basically took clothes. And if honestly, if a homeless person breaks in here and doesn't take anything and doesn't break anything, have a sleep. That doesn't bother me at all.

You know what I'm saying? Clean up after yourself. This can be a nighttime daytime. This can be an Airbnb, I guess, you know, for the homeless if they like to. That's a good one. Whatever you want to have, man. Is nothing really expensive in here? Do we keep the cameras here or do the cameras leave?

The cameras were, hey, the cameras were here. Yeah, the cameras wore. here. So thank God. No, Dodgers are shaking his head, no. The cameras leave every day. So what was here? The one there's stuff here? That was important. Oh, so they did break things. Well, now I've rescinded my, my invitation for them to do what they want to do. So, hold up. You did say, you said, I know of Will. All right? Of course. How do you know of Will? Hey, you hear that? Hey, that's what. Hey, Loki. Hey, Loki. I don't think the same thing, too. He says, of course.

Obviously, I know Will and I decided to go in. He did follow me a while back. I don't know what from, but when I saw it, you know, the boy site. And I know we'll get into your fandom in a second. That's, that's a big, this is a big, this is a big time thing. Yeah. I know we'll. Oh, shit.

I know, that's just the homie. Oh, it's like that. It is like that. Well, it's kind of like you guys are doing this. I'm a guest now. Yeah. You guys know each other like that. Yeah.

Yeah. God damn. Good for you guys. I know you do. Well, yeah, but we don't know each other like you always, obviously, know each other. I mean, it's Twitter world. For me, the Twitter world and just. The way I am with everybody, like, I don't have to know you personally, but I fucking know you.

Like, I fucking love you. I love you too. I love you too. I don't need to know you to love you. Right. Because when people hate you, do they actually hate, do they know you when they hate you? No. Exactly.

I fucking love you. You are big on saying I love you a lot to the world. And is that the whole idea of it is like... It's always been my mantra. It's always been my thing, especially with the way shit, especially with the way shit is now. Yeah. Always, even in games and clips and when the enemy, in the Battle of War would be mad

and talking shit to me. My favorite line that pissed everybody else was, dude, I fucking love you in the middle of the game. Yeah. I have a similar line I like to say to people when I play football is I'll suck your dick. I think that's usually, that's a line of mine. That is. That's true.

There's a big homophobic feeling in the NFL. And so when I tell another player, I'll fucking suck your dick. The game is now over for them, right? The mental battle. Yeah. But it kind of goes into, I'll love, love you. That's right.

That's right. So we're kind of that gains me a mental edge right and sometimes the game of inches in NFL that's all we need it's several inches not several three to five but yes I know what you're saying you're going but I love it there is a different kind of way because you know it's always kind of like the amount of times I've been called the N-word the amount of times you're like you all you fucking suck you're the it's kind of like the same verbatim over and guys this there's no creativity in the NFL when it comes to talking trash And if there's one thing that I've loved about watching your stuff is it's, it's original.

Authentic. It's authentic. And so that's been a thing since junior high. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love you. In passing, just random people, Twitter every, every fucking morning.

Sometimes you never know what people are going through. Obviously, there's only so much I can do as individual. Right. You know, so that message, I continuously do it just seven wherever I'm at. Yeah. Outside of telling guys you love them, what are some of your more favorite or some of your better lines you look back on and you're like that was a bang. Of course.

Child, please. I'm saying the meaning from hard knocks and it meaning based on the delivery. The delivery is important. It's a nice way of saying, fuck you. Right. And you can use it in the workplace. If your boss fishes you off and if your delivery

is right and you say, man, child, please, he will never know what you're talking about, but you're able to get that shit off your chest. Right. Without getting in trouble. Right. I have an HR call on you. I like that.

Braybel, that could be. I'd tell you what Vrable would definitely. He would need to hear this a few times. a few times for sure. Rable would be like, what do you think you're Chad? Yeah. He can barely say,

you can barely say yes sir to him. Like don't, don't call me, sir. Tell him the yes sir thing you did the Vrabel that fucking is really grinded his gears.

Rabel is, I know this is the bus of the boys things new to you. Rable is a huge fan of us. Huge fan of this bus. Right. Will's one of us got to be his top three.

I don't know. It's back and forth. I never know how to get a read on him. Right. But I was, I was working the cards on scout team and they held it up and they were like, he was like, hey, dirty D, like, you know, give a good look, show a little

speedball, all this and that. And, you know, I like to have fun. Oh, yes, sir, yes, sir. Like, I'm going to, hey, guy, show speed. Like, he's like, what, what did you say? And I'm just like, oh, I just said, yes, sir. Yeah, I bet you fucking did. I'm like, what?

That's literally all I said was, yes, sir. And then a couple weeks later, I'm preparing. I'm on, I'm on the defensive side. I'm freaking doing this. And he's coaching me up. And I just nod. Yes, sir, I got you. Like, he thinks I'm being a jackass again like I was a couple weeks before.

And he's like, like, don't fucking call me, sir. Stop saying yes, sir to me. I'm just like, oh my God. How do you even work around this? Yeah, what am I supposed to do here? Unless you call him God. I think that's like really the only thing he'll be okay with. I'll tell him with child please next time.

He'd tell him what? If Rable calls me out on the next team meeting I'm in, child please. Hell please. Calm down. I said, what'd you say? I said, I love you. I don't fucking hit him with that too.

And I got a twofer right there in my back pocket. That's a good mind fuck. Because I feel like if you tell a head coach, you'll suck them on. That part. I think that one. That's probably not it, right? I'll do that. I'll tell you what.

It is definitely a competitive edge to do those things, though. I like that, though. I like that. Do you always mean a shit talker? Do you that develop in the league? I just, I needed that mental edge. Right. I needed that mental edge.

And the reason I talk shit throughout the week, obviously people consider it putting pressure on yourself. Because obviously, once you talk and give the other team bulletin board material, you have no choice but to go out and perform. Right. Me, it kind of, it mind-fucked my opponent into. Oh shit You know Now I got to be on my I got to be on my P's and Q's

Right Just that nervousness Just that inch of you thinking Is that split second is all I need Has there ever been in time When you were like I shouldn't have I shouldn't have

Have you ever mind fucked yourself I'm like I really gotta put up See I don't believe I don't necessarily believe That's a fucking difficult thing Was difficult? Think about this Remember when I had the list of DVs

Yes Before the season started Yeah You know how hard that is I actually played the game of football in the NFL with the 1% that are the best in the world on All Madden. I played it in real life on All Madden because I put a list of people in my locker

that I was facing from week one to week 16, 17, I forgot how many fucking weeks there. I got CT. Right. And letting you know I'm going to beat you every down, all four quarters, and you're not going to stop me. And all they had to do was stop me one time and you get a check. That's it. All they had to do is stop you one time and you gave them the win for the game. Yeah, for that specific game.

Did anybody ever win? I think that year, I think it was one, one person. But as far as completions and targets and actually getting covered and balls knocked down, fuck no. Hey, I remember that too. He'd be in press conferences and he'd have his little list behind him in the locker. I was all state in high school, receiver. I could ball a little bit, you know what I'm saying?

So when I'm watching chat out Jocinco, that's who I am in the backyard. You feel me? No, yeah, 100%. Hey, you know how you're like that uncle and your. you're like, your niece or your daughter brings home somebody and they like play ball. And you're like, hey, you know, back in the day, I used to ball a little bit. Yeah. Oh, that's you right now.

Oh, that's me right now. Right here. I was solid back in the day. I'll tell you what. Being a receiver, that's tough. Being a corner's tough. I mean, the whole thing's fucking hard. The corner is the most, the hardest position.

I agree with that. Could you play corner? Did you think? Right now? Probably. I do that in the offseason with some of the today's players. Right. So when we train together for me to see as they want me to see, I actually play DB.

Who are these players? Irique, Antonio Brown, Julio, Ari Cooper. So the best of the best. Yeah. You're going to just say the best ones, and that would have categorized all of them, right? That was fun. But are you winning? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I win maybe 40% of the time. And that's fucking great being that I'm not a fuck day. Hell you. Yeah, you're playing one-on-one. Now, is that 40% legit? or is that like, hey, I probably, I would have definitely. That's a legit 40% because at times I know what's coming before it comes. Right.

You can just tell. Coming out the huddle, split, alignment. You already know what route's coming. So I'll just try to guess. So you're a coin flip guy. Yeah. I like that. How old do you, what's your age right now?

52. You're what? 52 years old. No, you're not. No, you're not. I was born to 68. He's like 42. I'm not.

I don't. All right. So we'll look it up right now. It's all right. Who doesn't even fucking know me? Hey, I'll tell you what? They know what? You're 78, 42 years old. All right, you're 42 years old. Listen, that's one strike, Chen. All right. You've lied to us once on the bus already. And we're 10 minutes into the stay.

He said I'm 52. When he said 52, I was fucking upset with myself. Oh my, I'm 29. This man. You know what? 52, based on the wear and tear I had to take the rest of the years. I feel 52 when I wake up every morning. So but you think you could still play? You think you play one season?

Yeah, easily. At a high level. With the right preparation? Yes, and the opportunity and the ball coming, easy. Really? Because teams put you in a position to be successful. Right. They put you, I'm just saying, hypothetically.

Yeah, it will be easy. My skill set hasn't gone anywhere. Well, it could, I mean, you're 42. What about your speed now? You didn't go anywhere either. It hasn't gone anywhere. So you're saying you're as fast now. You're the same speed now as you were back in your age.

I was just on the treadmill running 25 miles an hour, what, four months ago on Instagram. 25 mile hours, D's. That is kind of fast. I mean, obviously, the treadmill is making me go. But the fact that my body can maintain that for over eight, nine seconds, that means I can fucking still go. So why don't you? Why don't I what?

Play. Why? Why would I want to play? Because I played 13 years. That's enough. 13 years is a long time. That's a good amount. How many poopoles you make?

Six. That's, I mean, that's a Hall of Fame career. You got nine between all of us on the bus. Look at us, right? Six, three. Yeah. We're rolling, boys. Where did you play?

Nebraska. I played in Michigan. Yeah. Oh, what's up with your wool? I tell you what, Will caught me in a predicament the other day because he says, Hey,

that was hilarious. Yeah, I did. That was so funny seeing your face. I'm like, I'm playing the political incorrect. Like, oh,

well, you know, they need to do this? I was like, so, what do you think you should get rid of hardball? And I got, I'm like,

I don't know what the fuck to say. You think they should? Yes. Are you serious? Uh, so when I got there is hard by the reason, though, or maybe they don't,

they don't have the talent to succeed, succeed. It's all right. If, if you, if it's, when I got there in 2009, Rich Rodriguez was there. And the whole time Rich Rodriguez is there, all they wanted was Harbaugh. And then Brady Hoke came in from San Diego State, who's a Michigan guy for whatever. He was a deep coordinator or whatever.

All they wanted while Brady Hook was there is Harbaal. Now Harbaugh is there. And so, and I hate to do it. And there's a, there's a Michigan fan at the edge of their seat right now, listen to me, talk because they want me to say something nice. I'm not going to. Because Mark Dan Antonio, who is, who was the head coach of Michigan State,

and that's going to hurt even worse. He gets two and three-star guys. And while I was at Michigan, they're playing for big thing championships. They beat us three to four times. Like, they fucking got it done. Now, you can be a four-star athlete. Anyone can be athletically gifted.

Right. But if you're a sloppy or you don't know work ethic or you don't know what to do, then you're not going to develop into Chad Johnson or will comp. You're not going to develop into the guy that's going to be able to make it

or have that great. impact. Now at Michigan, you're sponsored by Jordan. You had, I mean, it's, I would say we're running, we're running away from relevance, but it's still a very relevant college. It's like a five-star college. It's a five-star college, right? Are you, are you getting the recruits though? I think we're getting, you're getting better recruits than Michigan State was when Mark Tantonio was there. And my thought is, is Mark Antonio took and developed those guys, took a guy like Jack Conklin, who I played with last year. He played for the Titans. He was a first round pick. Had to walk on to Michigan State. now he's a first round picking left early. That type of shit. That's what I'm talking about. I think if you're getting a four and five star guys, which Michigan does get, then after that it's development. And you need to have kids excel and do better as you go.

And that's not happening at Michigan. Now, I don't know how to coach. I don't know how to do that shit. And I would never try to be a coach. I have a little bit of all the time. Like, Will I would want to coach when he's done playing. I don't. I'm not trying to coach.

Like, I want to go. I want to make my money, win a championship. make some Proble, let's wear a jacket someday. You know what I'm saying? That's the kind of shit I want to do. And then after that, I'm very dust. I'm out of here. But so I don't know how to necessarily develop people.

But if you look at that and you're such a sought after coach like Harbaugh has been, it's one of those situations where, you know, it is on the coaching staff now. You know what I'm saying? It does kind of get on that because you're getting the dudes. You're getting the guys. You know what I'm saying? And it's just if you look at his track record, he's gone like 0 and 10 versus top 15 opponents. like one and 12 against top 10.

Yeah, it's not a good look. It's not a good look. I might have got the stats wrong one way or another, but they just played Penn State a couple weeks ago, who was over, haven't won a game all season. Right. And Penn State beat them by 10 points. So it's like, let me come on.

You know, at the end of the day, it's like. Where'd you play, where'd you play college ball at? Oregon State one year. That's right. Bevers. Dennis Erickson. We went 11 and 1. Is it?

Missed the chance to play in a national championship by a field goal against the Huskies. Husky. And we blew Notre Dame out. That was fun. That was a great year. You were really there one year? Yeah. That was a knucklehead.

I mean, my story is too long. We'll be here all fucking day. Athole. Never went to class in high school. Graduated late. Then I get to an A. I school in Oklahoma, Langston University. Obviously, red shirt there.

Clock starts. Getting in trouble of fighting there. Go to Santa Monica in L.A. with Steve Smith. Right. Okay. I agree with that. Um.

play one year there. That's two years down. The following year, I'm ineligible. There's three years down. You know, there's grades. School. Fuck school. I want to play football.

Right. Yeah, you got to try to be ineligible. So, of course, obviously, I get my grades together throughout the offseason or I wouldn't be able to play. Boom. Play in Santa Monica the third year, obviously because I was in Elisville the second. That's four years down. One for one.

Oregon State gave me a shot. And once I got there, I didn't look back. And what do you mean by you didn't look back? Like you started taking it trouble. I had to take it serious. You started to get it. You started to buckle down a little more. Okay.

You put school a position to. As soon as I put school first and said, okay, I'm going to do this first. And football second, everything just fucking went slowly. And it took until I almost didn't have the opportunity to play at the next level or showcase my talent on the big, big stage. I didn't get it until then. Like over and over, I was a fucking knucklehead. And so knowing that was about to fully slip away from your hands, that's what made you want to straighten it up. Yeah.

Straightened it up. or my opportunity to play in general, or even make it to the NFL. Right. Same to none. What would you do if you didn't go to the NFL? I'd probably, well, I was cheap as hell, but I would always want some nice things.

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I was ecstatic that my boy Levante, David, and Indama Kinsu, my Nebraska boys, they won a Super Bowl. A phenomenal game to watch. You know, ebbs and flows. That was insane to me that the Bucks held the Chiefs offense to nine points. But it's just, it's insane that Thomas won in seven Super Bowl, his second team, different offense, different coaches, a new team, a guy's barely, he barely, knows. And I'm sure he was rocking those

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and how they kind of separated themselves from you. Let me. I was, where I grew up in Miami during that time was the dope era. The dope, dope boys and the cool. pain and I would be around but when it was going down or anything that could hamper anything as far as my career or anything going forward football wise yeah and they kick me to fuck out just from around just just around them in general why do you think that because usually it doesn't go

that way people are trying to reel you in because they don't they don't want to see you have success without them so like that back then there was structure I'm not a street dude but there was there was a certain way things were done with individuals that had potential to make it out of that area. They looked out for you. They didn't bring you in. So how did how did you fully separate from that circle?

Was that when you went to the NFL? Once I left for college, obviously I wasn't around it. Yeah. But I didn't indulge myself in that activity though. They wouldn't fucking allow me to even if I wanted to. You know, when you're young, you want to be cool, you want to fit in. You want to do what the fuck?

Yeah. Let me do this. Let me do that. So they saw your talent level and said, no, he can't. when the, when the lights flicker, you know, the lights, when it's coming on, is, when the light star flickering, they would send me up. Damn. Yeah, it was cool.

I heard, I heard a, I heard a similar thing to Deshaun Watson. Yeah. He had a, he had a, he had a, like, I don't know his story. This is all, like, secondhand stuff, but it would be a similar thing. He would, you know, be in a bad area. And when the lights start flicker and you have to go home, or if something was about to go down, they, like, you need to go home right now. Because they, I mean, I heard it was because they knew how talented he was.

And he had a huge. opportunity. And dudes, I'll obviously want to get out of those situations. I mean, that's, that is, that's your, that's your out, man. That's it. Those environment, the surroundings that where I grew up, or there's so many stories like that. Our only way out is sports. You know, I'm not a fucking academic scholar. Who the fuck am I fooling? Yeah. Not a 4.0. No, that's not me. I'm extremely smart with finances and how to handle my money. But when it comes all that other shit, when it comes to school that you're never going to fucking using life any goddamn way.

Am I using calculus? No, I didn't know. I felt stats three times. Algebra and all this. You know, I'm not an engineer or just, I don't know, man. It's weird, but I mean, it worked out. When you start throwing letters into math, Y equals MX plus B, that's when I was like,

well, the game's over for me. I think that's where I've lost the battle. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I enjoyed it. I try to steal. My son is at Arizona State now. With Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards. He played receiver. he's a freshman. So I try to talk to him and tell him, you know, make it easy for you.

You're doing something I wasn't able to do. You actually had a big school as a freshman getting that experience of college that I'd never got. Yeah. I'll tell you what, ASEU is great. I'm from Arizona. For real? Yeah, I'm from Cape Creek. But I almost went there.

But after I saw the girls at Arizona State, I was like, I just can't go here. Right. Get in trouble. So I went to the opposite. I went to Michigan. And I said, all right. So the girls in Michigan weren't. Hey, it was tough sledding out there, Bob.

Especially when you grew up in Arizona. You go up in Arizona, it's beach weather all the time. Everyone's going to the pool. Everybody has a pool. Right. So everyone's got to stay in shape. And so you're looking at nines going, that's a thing, you know. Working at Target too.

And you're like, she's all right. And then you go to Michigan and like, you're like, oh, I'll never have sex again, I guess. I guess that's over for me. And then six months goes by and you're like, well, I guess you're playing roulette, right? You're zipping down the North Face jacket going, please. make this a real thick jacket. You know, you're hoping to God. He said, you get him with that winter coat on.

And then you go back to Arizona and you're like, these goes away out of my league. Now your mind starts to change a little bit. So, but when I was, I went there a couple times. And it was like, I can't fucking go here. When girls wearing bikinis in class, I was like, dude, this is fucking wild. That's funny.

It's a different deal. It's funny. Hey, shout's to your son, man, to be able to go and do something like that. You, uh, I'm glad he's in that environment, though, because he has Marvin. you know obviously Marble Lewis Well yeah you gotta be probably Yeah you probably have his number Talk to him all time

He's there He's in an NFL environment Even though he's in college So I know they're gonna make sure Keep his head on right Is his, is his talent around yours Near Years? Not yet

You got a long way to go Okay where he is now As a freshman in college Was he at that talent Where were you guys compared to? Right now where he would be right now I would be at Lansing Different skill sets

So I'm not sure it's hard to judge Yeah Different skill sets He's a lot bigger than me. He's bigger than me. He's like 6-3 and like solid. I'm still wired you a little bit. Yeah.

You've always been able to run. Didn't you play soccer too? Soccer's my first love. Right, because when you got out of football, weren't you on a team? Didn't you play in a game? Yeah. Weren't you a part of that?

Yeah. Semi pro in Miami. Over Ritone, FC. Soccer's always been my first love. Obviously, I didn't have the resources to play it in Miami. But how was soccer your first love over, over football? I have no idea. That is what I gravitated as a child.

You know, when you're in P, elementary school, go to pee and they dump all the balls out at once. Yeah. I gravitated soccer ball for somebody who couldn't play. Damn. Playing soccer in the hood in the 80s. Think about it. Yeah.

Really? Oh. Playing football on the street, not trying to hit cars. Stop for the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you find yourself with all the experience you have,

and obviously kids and everyone gravitation, towards Chad Ocho Senko because you have the facade of, you know, having fun and doing all that stuff. Do you find yourself mentoring a lot of kids who are trying to play sports and trying to keep them on, hey, don't be, you know, lights are flickering or going down this path or that path. Not really. It's hard. They don't listen. You got to learn through experience.

Even though the message is coming for me, I think of me at that age and hearing someone that I look up to, and it goes in one ear and out the other. Yeah. Right. I mean, if I run into you, we have a talk, you ask a question. I give you my input, my opinion on what you can and can do. Right. You know right from home anyway. I knew it back then.

Those people or the people that came to talk that look at, oh, my God, that's so-and-so. One ear out the other. You know, you remember what they said. I mean, I had to learn through experience and following my ass and having to get back up. Yeah. You think it'd be easier, especially when you become a parent. I got two kids and you're like, and my kids are too young, but I know I'm going to get to the point. I see what you're doing.

let me help you with this and they're going to be like you know kind of fuck off I got to do I got to go and do this you know it's gonna be hard to see hard to watch it sounds like your kids got to get head and the shoulders though yeah yeah you know what I'm lucky I have seven seven kids I know you have a daughter

who's very fast oh my god they all might be but I'm just saying you know the one I'm talking about yeah she's extremely fast actually to the point where she might be able to get me right that's crazy because I anything past 100 100 meters she'd probably get me and she's only 15 Yeah, she's a stud.

He'll post her videos at track meets and stuff. I'm just like, you know, kids are running like that these days? Yeah. Not in my school. I have no issues. None of them were like I was. Yeah, I wouldn't even say it's a test to me. It's just testing to it.

Yeah. I'm not playing that shit. Do you have baby mama drama? Never have. We all work as one unit. It's good. It's all one unit. Bingo.

I like that. I'm glad you just said that. Defense him in. You know what I'm saying? You can't fence in with two. That's just a gate. You know what I'm saying? You can't have a fucking...

That's a gate. That's a fucking... Damn. I'm sorry. You got to remember that one. I've been... I fucking just said it out loud. I probably, you know...

That's mine now. Write that down. Taylor wrote that one. I said that... On the pod forever. It's... On the pod forever. Oh.

I'll tell you what... The whole... The whole having multiple mothers thing. It just seems... Now, I'm not going to... I'm not stepping on territories. I don't fucking know. But it does seem like a difficult track.

Stressful. I see some guys, three kids, three women. I'm like, dude, that's a lot of fucking work. I like it. You know, I think about what I did, everyone I had a child with was based on their DNA and athletic background. That's genius.

It had nothing to do with how fine you were or how you look. So it was strategic. Every time. Hey, man's playing chess. It had nothing to. It had nothing to pulling out. It was strategic. I don't care anything about bad bitches and all that shit.

Hey, if I wanted models, I don't want fucking models. I don't want fucking athletes. What did you do in high school? show me some fucking tape. Show me some fucking tape. No, I'm serious. Did you cheer? Did you run track? Did you play volleyball?

I need that DNA. I need that fucking mixture to be on point. You know, I don't need the bad bitch trying to look cute with good hair. No, for what? When the last time you seen a great football player that was fucking pretty? I'm a really good football player. You're not fucking. You're pro-creating.

You're really pro-creating, basically. And it worked because everybody. Thank you. Thank you. I know that was Alex. It was Alex. Because everyone is athletic and their respective crafts and good at what they do. So did they understand that they were getting trapped?

Yes, because I explained that beforehand. So I'm going to put a baby inside you because you deserve it. That's a horrible delivery. That's a horrible delivery. Are you sure? But that's seduce me. That's the gist of it. Tell me how it happens.

That's the gist of it right there. I'll be the girl. I can't right now. Are you ready? I haven't done in a while. Remember, my kids are 23, 18, 16. Yeah, that was so long.

Now, did these women have to pass the McDonald's first date test? Everybody does. I don't know who you are. Explain your philosophy on dating. I mean, it's what I love. I already have money. Yeah.

I'm rich. Yeah. So I have nothing to prove to you. Without the red carpet is a man trying to, what's the word? Court. Court. Yeah.

Well, there are certain things I like in life. Can you like I like knowing what I have the offer, what do you bring to the table outside a vagina? Yeah. And you're an added expense. Can you enjoy this meal without frowning your face by pulling this McDonald drive-thru?

Oh, he don't go inside. No, go through drive-thru. That's the first date. Blas, get your gun out, Bloss. It works. Bloss is a cop. Seriously? Yeah, he's a cop.

Yeah, we're fired up. Oh, shit. It's a tough time to be a cop right now. He said, I have a fucking warrant. So you don't take him in the man. McDonald's, you're going to drive-thru, the facial expression, when you pull in McDonald's drive-thru, where they're dressed up and thinking they're going somewhere nice, I need to see your facial expression.

So they have no clue they're going to McDonald's. Yeah. That's what I've done every time. Obviously, now. People are understand, right. You know, when I date after, they know. And then after that, you know, you do the nice upscale restaurants and it's cool. You got to pass that first level.

Yeah. So if you're in the drive-thru, let's say where you take a girl to the drive-thru, And you look over and she's like, body language. She does the body language, facial expression. It's over at you. Like, are we fucking? Yeah, we won't. We won't be doing this again.

So do you still order food or do you leave? You're like, this is it. Or do you kind of pull around? You know, sometimes they have two lanes. I order. He's still going to get his food. I bet I was going to say, I bet he's still get his food. And if she has a problem with it, okay, cool.

Yeah. You got a whole village anyway. Dingo. Got a squad, right? Yeah. I mean, are you adding to my fucking plate? No. you're fucking taking.

Right. And what you're offering, I can get elsewhere for fucking free. No question. Or for a premium price. But yes. Absolutely.

That too. I've always wondered, how do you enjoy McDonald's so damn much? As a kid. Yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying like every day. You know how you get in phase?

I need to take a break right now, but I'll go back to it. I do take a break. I eat other things. Porto Tropical, depending on, I don't know if they have one here. Puerto Tropical.

No free shout-house. I don't know if they have, Bahamah Breeze here. No? No. No. That sounds like Miami. Soul food restaurants.

Love soul food. Yeah. In Miami, Cuban restaurants. Love that. I love Cuban coffee. I don't drink alcohol. So anytime I have a cigar, I always have to have coffee, which is why I ask for a coffee. What's the place in Germantown that's like?

That's what I was trying to think of. Soul food place. You sit there. It's bench style seating. You're not allowed to be on your phone. Right. It's like you're going to a house. And they have like the best food.

You'll sit there. It's unbelievable. It starts with like an am, I think. Yeah. I know it's right in German town. It's like 10 minutes away from here. You'd love it. Yeah, you should check it out.

It's the name of it. I was just trying to figure out right now. Is it the soulful sign? Yeah. Okay. Monels. That's it. Monels.

It's like breakfast, lunch or dinner. Yeah. They always have like a fried chicken or like, you know, that's a great tweet. Monels. No. Well, yeah. He said that's a good tweet. That's the people, what they think about Monales.

Moneles is solid. I think you get a raving. People are all about hot chicken here, too. I ate it. I don't know. Hattie B's is pretty good, but people say that's like a cop. Like, that's not the deal. You shouldn't go there.

It's a different spot. But I think, I mean, I had had Hattie B's one time. I ate it. They told me to go to Hattie B's where. I saw that multiple times. It's more of a tourist type thing. It's like, I'm going to go here just because. Monels is not touristy, so I think you would actually see, look, there's a spot you walk into.

That's literally the house. You walk in there? You walk into that place. It's like lunch tables. Yeah. And so you'll be sitting next to a person. You don't even know. How do you spell that?

Monells M-O-N-E-L-L and it'll hopefully it'll figure it after that You know what I'm saying it's a Monell's there there I go yeah You can tell you go sit right up in there I'm sure everybody's saying I love you there It's cool too and if you know yeah Double N E L-LF yep no free shoutouts Manels we better see that checked What is what does NFL films have you doing out here? I'm doing a feature on AJ Brown He's having a phenomenal love one

He made the Pro Bowl this year? I don't know yet. No, I'm saying, do you think he makes a pro bowl this year? That's a question. It's impossible. All the receivers are doing well. Look at the stats for all the receivers that are in real work.

He's at nine touchdowns and eight games. He has a nickname that we've given him. And since you're going to be featuring him, this would be phenomenal. I'm going to use it. Arthur Juan Canobe. Arthur Juan Canovi? Are you a Star Wars guy? His name, AJ, is Arthur Juan.

And so we're playing off of a Star Wars character. We're staying. We're playing off a Star Wars character, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah. So we call him Arthur Juan Canobey. You have to know that this was something that Will decided is going to be. Well, I think he probably thinks it's dope. No, I think he doesn't like it.

Arthur, Obi-Wan. He's okay. I'm not going to. Hang on. Oh, B'OXenobie has a rat tail. Arthur Juan Canobe. He's got his little, he calls it a Gucci tail. So I think it's, I think it's like a no-brainer.

Beautiful teeth in the kid. Get some T-shirts made. You know what I mean? Just always thinking. Nine touchdowns and eight games. Who else in the AFC's doing that? Yeah, he'll tell it, yeah. Who else is?

I mean, look at some of the AFC receivers. It's right there. I mean, it's up there. Tyree Kill. I'm just going to go out. D.K.'s going crazy. DK's in the NFC, though. Defon Diggs.

Stefan Diggs, he'll make the Pro Bowl. The top is NFC, too, right? Yep. Yeah, he's an Fee. Will Fuller is Houston. Fuller's not going to make it. He just got Pop for a PED. Keenan Allen.

He's a monster. He runs good routes, right? He saw it. Superb routes. Superb routes. He kills dudes. Now is he having, what's his numbers like? Oh, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't think it's up there. I'm not sure. He has a name. Would you say if I said Keenan Allen or A.J. Brown, just from a name. But it would obviously be. It'd be Keenan.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I'd say, I mean, Tyrake Hill obviously is he made the Pro Bowl. He had 200 yards in one quarter. It's unbelievable. And he's got a big name. Stefan Diggs is another one. Keenan Allen could be another one.

How many receivers they take to the Pro Bowl? Four, three? I mean, I. I think he's in it then. If he's four, if he takes three, it's like, Kay, well, he's got a big name out there. Because you know what is a big name game. If you got to name, this, that, and the other.

And if you got, you got to put up the numbers, too, somewhat. No question. But you got dudes. If he finishes the year strong, I mean, yeah, he's got a real good shot. Well, voting's now, those last two games don't count. Those last two games don't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's got to, like, what, the 17th or something.

He's got three more games. I think he's, I love AJ. He's great teammate, too. Like, the way, when he's around, he's infectious. he's for the most part pretty happy. He was acting a little weird this in the beginning of the year. He's throwing us through a little. That's AJ.

But now he's AJ now. What are your thoughts on AJ? I like him. On Arthur Juan, Kenobi. I tweet him all the time. I wanted to give him smaller shoulder pads, though. Smaller?

Too big? Oh, yeah, they're too big. He's a, I'm telling him his shoulders are actually, I mean, he's wide. I wanted to get some fucking shoulder pads like Ed McCaffrey. Like, let the fucking gun show. Pull that up. Yeah.

I told them too. I said, hey. The guns were showing the shoulder pads like Michael Bennett damn near. Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah, yeah. He basically put, yeah. It does look trash.

But I know what you're saying. Like the smaller or the better. The smaller solar is the actual bigger you look. Yeah. I'm with that. It looks like he's planning the 50s almost. Right. Yeah, he does have some big pads on.

But he's a big cat. He's a big dude, man. His shoulders are very broad. And he's like, it's like a triangle. Do you have a list of the best route runners? I'm sure people ask you that all the time. No. I just.

Who are some? When I think about DeMonte Adams, Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley's like that? Yeah. Terry McLaurin, Washington. He's a young, he's a stud too, a secondary player. He's a special. Jerry Judy.

You like him? Jerry Judy. He's for Broncos. Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay. I know you're talking about. Amari Cooper. I mean, it's so many.

It's so many. But, I mean, the top two to me, obviously to me are DeBonte Adams and Kenyon and Allen. They are the and one mix tape of running routes and creativity and just like embarrassing you at the line one-on-one. Like, both of them brought you to tears and watching their routes? Yeah.

It's, it's a sight to see. And it's hard for people, the casual fan really won't understand it. They'll just call out other big names of receivers who put up big numbers, but you won't understand the art and creativity of what they do. How did they compare to you? Well,

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slept at the stadium. Yeah. I mean, I've been to Cincinnati, so I know it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's only the stadium facility. It's all one thing. Yeah, the players lounge. But is this something that was happening every day? Or you only stayed there every now.

I don't want to spend any money. I fucking love that, dude. God, that's fine. Where were you set up at? The players lounge. Players lounge has everything. You got your gaming. You got your couches.

You got blankets. You got pillows. So you slept on the couch? Yeah. You ain't get like a cot or something? No, expensive-ass couch. You flush, you know, for the fat guys, the big boys. Perfect.

Perfect. Everything free. You got water. You got food. You got cafeteria. What am I getting a place for that they have to pay rent for? And I can stay there rent-free. Parking lot?

I'm hungry When I'm hungry Leave a stadium Go put my code back in Come back in It's everything So why'd you leave Oh Marvin Lewis and Hugh Jackson

Made me get a place They said you have this time Yeah My third year God They made me get a place Hell I stayed at my grandma's house In Miami

Where I grew up as a kid Until my fifth year Every offseason I went home When I went home to Miami I'm still living In the same house With my grandma

And once I made I'm like, listen, we can move now. We can move out of here. And she'd rather stay there because of the memories and... Stalgia. Yeah. Like, are you serious? So she wanted to remain in that area?

Say, fuck it. Okay, well, I'll stay here too. What am I getting the fucking house? I do love that. I do love that. Every office says, I'd stay at my parents' place just in the offseason, but not during season. Don't try to compare yourself, though. I said not during season.

Taylor doesn't know about being frugal. I am actually a very frugal person. and everything I'm wearing was free. Everything I'm wearing is free. That is true. It costs $40? Mine costs zero. So, so far I'm winning the game.

Urban outfitters have a sale going on right now. Do they? Go off the sale rack. I just put it together. That's why I don't fucking match. It's a nice little deal. I think you match just fine. I think it looks good.

I think you know, I think you know what you're doing. Yeah, I like it. I just threw some shit together. You know what you're very tactical. You definitely are a chess player of life. It's not like you like to come off as, well, you know, I just kind of do whatever. But you're definitely, I feel like you are very, like, you're steps throughout the day.

You know what you're doing. And you've done a great job of it. He said, yeah. Premeditated. Very premeditated. You're solid. Yeah. Sometimes.

It has to be. It's just you just can't go all willy-nilly. See, I'm a fly by the suit of my pants guy for the most part. I've had to tame it back a little bit having kids now, but I've definitely been more of a willy-nilly than a tactical force. But I tell you what, being around you makes me. want to be more tactical. That's what you're bringing to the table. You're influencing me.

I'm 29 years old. You got to try it. I will. I will. I'll do that now. I just so much work. I think it's a lot of work, but it seems like it's not.

It's easy. And you do what you want to. Like you've answered your phone and tweeted on this, on this program. Oh, man. He's done it smooth. Hey, he's done it smooth too.

Hey, he's been smooth about it too. Yeah. Holy shit. Monel's hits, doesn't it? Smoking thighs. Absolutely your breakfast. Somebody say,

yes, you won't be disappointed. Oto is one of the best here. Yes. Somebody said McDonald's. Oh, you're cheating on McDonald's. McDonald's. Haddy B's.

As McDonald's, like, giving you, like, you know how... I did some of them, but they give you a card to give them a card? I did some of McDonald's in 05 through 07. That's... Is that when you... I can't even remember what... I know there's one time where you want to do... You would drive up and ask for an application in cases of the job didn't work out.

You never fucking know. They were doing, like, uh... What was that called? It's like an NFL film thing where they're following him around. He's talking about how much he works out and then he'll go to the drive-thru and he'll get an application.

He'd pull up. You never know when the other one's not going to work out saying that. He already said that too. I love that. Everybody fucking mentioned Mortons. The fuck is Morton's. It's a chain steakhouse.

It's a change steakhouse. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. No free shout out of Martins. Mortons. Yeah. And Saturday, obviously, I have to film. I'm going to

famous country place. Is the name of? Hockey Talk? No. He's down on Broadway? Yeah, there's something that has to do where the country singers

and is famous is, when you come to the Riemann? Everybody. Country Music Hall of Fame? No. It's the Riemann or it's Johnny Cash Museum? No.

God damn it's a concert hall he's talking about. There's the Ryman that's just off the Broadway. Right. And then what's the place that was over at, I can't. By the mall. It's literally the name of the mall. Opry?

Grando Opera. That's it. Yeah. I have to go there tomorrow. I've never been there. I have to go there tomorrow. And so that's how the piece is going to go. So in Jacksonville, we did James Robinson.

We featured him, rookies, having a great fucking. Yeah, he's doing well. And I'm, I was fucking golfing at TBC Sawgrass. Of course. And I sucked. So that was half of the film. And the rest with Jane Robinson, you know, playing against the Brown. So tomorrow I'm going to.

Brandel Library. I don't, yeah. So I'm going to do that. And then. The other half will be what AJ Brown does against the Browns. You think you're going to get their autographs? Him and Corey Davis. Yeah, I fucking scream and heckle all the players every time.

That's good. Every time they come out of the tunnel. Really? Yeah. Oh, AJ's going to love that. I asked for a ball with some funny shit. Yeah. I saw you tell AJ, you should be going to throw a ball and he'll pay the fine.

You retweeted, so it would probably throw one before the game. Can't find it for that. You should throw one during the game. You said you pay the fine. I would. It's only seven grand. See, now that's a lot of money. Not really because remember I'm a mule for the cartel, so my money's coming in different.

Yeah, no, it's actually got different pockets. Yeah, no, that's absolutely how it goes. One of my Grand Ole Opry, I've never been to the Grandal Opry, but when I first got drafted here, they were like, hey, it was during OTAs. So I'm like trying to learn the playbook. And they're like, Willie Nelson is going to introduce you at the Grandal Opry. And I mean, I was like, I'm a big Willie fan. I fucking said, no, no, no, no.

I need to stay here and study my playbook. What? biggest regret of my life i want to took my fucking playbook with me i'll tell you what i fucked up look at me in the eyes i fucked up that's just life lee nelson the king i'll tell you what you said no for really if i had a drug test tomorrow and willy nelson was like smoke this with me i don't care if it's pcp i'm smoking that with willy nelson do you know what i'm saying just because that's how much you regret that dude willie nelson is a is a legend doesn't seem like you understood that though when there's certain things don't seem like you understood that the time you said no

He's like saying he is a fucking legend I just know PCP with him I didn't appreciate I thought oh more opportunities will pop up I'll be fine like I've been here for four days Like this is already what's happening Yeah I haven't had one fucking call about Willie Nelson since

I messed up everything There's certain things in life That you just don't turn down Certain opportunities That present themselves That will never come about again That you just can't turn down Like bustling with the boys

You took advantage of this opportunity Turn this down Like I had the opportunity to stay in my room and have sex with multiple women in Tennessee that send me their vagina in my DM. Yep.

And where am I? You're with the boys. I'm fucking bustle with the boys. Because you're for the boys. Fuck the vagina. You don't need it. It's just taking food off your plate. We've already talked about this.

See what? If anything, we're good listeners. You know what else? The vagina is? What's that? It's a fucking added expense. It's an added expense. And if anybody given to you free,

it's not that fucking good. Look at all them back there. All them back there like a class just now. Chad. They're like this. You don't think about the journal. They're like, yeah. Mm-hmm.

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Hey that's Brandon Marshall's You do that yeah with Brandon Marshall Fred Taylor Shannon Crowder Shannon Crowder Yeah I've seen that When did that start happen This is season two for them

And I did The beginning of season two Brandon asked me to come by And just be on Yeah Reggie Wayne was on there Fred Taylor and and and and brandy i would just a guess talked about the hall of fame we talked about some other things

did so well the jump and so brandy was like dude got to you gotta we need 85 i was like um cool what days because they have other things i have going on uh the show with kyle long and nfll and twitch called Twitchburg. Wednesdays and I said if we can do it as long as I can finish this first then I can come film with you guys after.

Timing worked out and we've been going strong ever since and now it's doing well especially in the YouTube space for sure. I like it. I really enjoy it. And that's out of my

that's in Miami? Yeah. I like it a lot. It's similar type of platform. They just kind of talk about just they're just raw and they talk about some shit on there and important stuff

you know right stuff policy we touch on everything you know race religion politics football hair and stuff those three things you just said are hairy yeah I like that yeah very touchy shit it's nice sometimes to fucking play a little gray area hit the boundaries a little bit

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That doesn't bother you at all No, I never gave a phone Yeah, that's smart It's good to do that. It's hard I feel like it's harder to do that now with all the stuff Social media and all that It's more difficult to ignore those things I mean it's there in your face but it's still easy to ignore

One off a Ducks back We had a guy on the podcast name's Brandon Chop The guy he's a great comedian and he has a few podcasts He does a lot of good work And he brought that up how he just, he has social media, has thousands of followers, and he just put something out there,

and then he doesn't look, comments or anything. He just does this thing. That's, that's admirable, because it's hard to do. When you're in, you're in the middle of your career

and you're trying to figure out, like, how good can I be this? You kind of want to get gassed up a little bit once in a long. Yeah, you go check them things. You go check a little, put your name in the old search engine.

Right. And you see nine great things about yourself, but that one bad thing, you're like, these motherfuckers. I don't fucking get it, do they? Always like that.

I think for me it's extremely easy because I already had that mentality from going up. Not giving a fuck. So to carry on, once I got to the NFL, I still had the same mentality of not getting the fuck. Obviously, I love playing into the villain role. Right. And I loved it. I loved the persona. And that's all it was.

So people seemed to confuse it too. Person, like, person? Yeah, this is me. That's just, that's an act. act marketing the whole you know the whole nine yards right i like it and just not give me the fuck because if i cared then i would stop doing what i was doing a long time ago once the media uh i made it wrong my ass for everything was there anything you wish you hadn't a done if i could do it again i do it the same way and plus some when uh when you when you transition from the bengals

to the patriots what was that like when you're when you're you're up here like chat out josecenko You're doing all this stuff. You're celebrated. You were the Cincinnati Bengals. And then you start to transition and realize that, damn, you know, at the end of the day, business is business. Right. Take us to that transition. I mean, it's easy because you already know.

It's an organization that doesn't play that shit and doesn't really need you. Right. Once you get there, you walk in that door, the atmosphere, you understand that you're expendable. Your commodity. No matter who you are. Unless you're that centerpiece, which was 12, that makes that train run, makes the whole train function. because the pieces to the puzzle in the Wingland

chains constantly. Think about it. Oh, yeah. But one piece you're the same. Put the back spot. But everything else around them is shuffles year and a year out. Year and a year out. But they continuously win. No matter who's there.

So it was a tough spot. I enjoyed it. Obviously I wasn't as productive as I'd like. But hell, me, Wes Welker, Aaron Hernandez, Grong, Edelman. I mean, where the fuck did I fit in anyway? It's not like I had a choice. I think if I had a choice, would I have chose to go to New England? Probably fucking not. Probably not. No, because it just, it wasn't a great fit for me, even though, oh my God, you get to play with the greatest quarterback ball time. Yes. But as you see, right. Right. I don't really need you, but you hear big name. Eh. Could you state at Cincinnati? I could have, but I'm not sure how the business side of things work, but that's not what they wanted.

And what I'm going to say, oh, my God, I don't want to go to fucking England. Right. You didn't have any other places that wanted you? Sure, but they traded. Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, shit. That's right.

That's a lot of people. Is that when you started to figure out that you were a commodity or you had that been something you already understood the whole time? Yeah, yeah, for sure. See, I told John Robinson, he traded Jarrell K. Dorel Casey this past year in the offseason to the Broncos. And Jarrell has been here forever. He made five Pro Bowls here. He has done a great job for this team as a good dude.

So I pulled him over during camp. I said, John, if you fucking trade me. That's a D tackle, right? He has a D tackle, yes. So the GM, 98, 99. Oh, 9. Okay. 99.

So Jarrell got traded to the Broncos. So I pulled John to the side during camp. I said, John, I love you to death. But if you trade me, do not send me somewhere cold. Just make sure you send me somewhere warm. That's all I care about. So he agreed. So John,

he's fucking out here now. So if I ever get traded to somewhere, Cole, I'll be pissed going to Buffalo or something, or the Patriots. Do you think, obviously the Patriots being what they were, and then Tom leaving,

and then Cam coming in, because once Cam went there, you were like, oh, they're going to be right back where they left off. Are you surprised about kind of how it hasn't been necessarily that this year? Because they can see something like the playoffs, right?

They have much of a season, off season? No, I mean, it's COVID. No. Yeah. I think all that matters.

Being able to the jail with your teammates work out in the offseason I think all that matters. I think next year would be a little different. I'm hoping maybe they allow him to another year. He was only on a one year, right?

Even though he's on a one year. I think people are saying he'll still be there from what I see, right? It's smart. I mean, New England's in the driver's see as far as business contractually because it's like you know, Cam wanted to have a hell a year because he gets to go back to the bank and re-up big time.

Right. So when it's not going perfectly, it's like the Patriots know that when they give him an off-season, he'll probably flourish. But as far as like leverage and business, like, I'm sure. It'll be interesting. You never know with them, though. You never know what the page is. But is there a better option at this point?

Ben Cam. But giving Cam a full off-season work with everyone, you know, offensive standpoint. Right. a better place for him to go? No, I mean, it's just far as the opportunity. Again, to try it again. A full season under his goal with the offense and understanding the scheme, understanding what he has around him.

He's a stud, too. They need to get more pieces there, too. So what all are you into now? You do NFL films. You got an I am athlete now. Brandon, I have an NFL Twitch show with how long on Wednesdays. I'm the ratings adjusted for EA. Oh, yeah, that's right.

It's funny. With just the receivers? Oh, everybody. Players are five players every week. Not a lot of old linemen on that, Madden, Adjuster. Say, what we need to get the boy taking care of. Yeah, my shit's terrible. He's been like low 80s every year.

You know what I'm saying? Three-time Pro Bowl. We need a little bit more respect on my man's name. You know what I'm saying? Please. I don't need to be good in real life. I just need to get in the game. You know what I'm saying?

I got you. It's always nice. got a decent rating. Yeah, 84. We got boosted to a 69. You saw that. I saw the tweet. Somebody said,

thank you. Thank you. I went from a 68 to a 69. Fuck around. You know what I'm saying? How'd that happen? Falling. Oh, man.

Well, fuck, man. I'll tell you what, this has been a cool, a cool experience. Always knew who you were, knew your personality, but never, like, truly fall.

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