Bussin' With The Boys - Chase Elliott Talks Making The Move From #24 To #9 + The NASCAR Rule He Would Change | Racin'

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Recorded: July 14th 2026 | Welcome back to another episode of Racin’ With The Boys. This week the boys have the most popular driver for the last 8 years running, Chase Elliott. The guys immediately dive into how Chase is a quiet guy who likes to stay out of the spotlight. They get into how even though he is the most popular driver, he seems to be the most private driver as well. Chase dives into his interests outside of NASCAR and how he is a massive football fan and made his dad, Bill Elliott, become a fan of football as well. The boys talk about Chase’s start in racing being that he is the son of the legendary driver, Bill Elliott. Chase says how he was never really pressured into driving and that he got into it because of his own love for racing. He also talks about all of the small minute details that go into racing that he loves and how he wishes the fans themselves could see/understand what all goes into being a top tier NASCAR driver. The boys then ask Chase what went into the decision to go from the #24 car to the #9 car. Chase tells the really cool story behind it all and how Dale Earnhardt Jr. actually had a lot to do with. All in all, this interview really shows Chases’s personality and how much of a dude Chase really is, you’re not going to want to miss this. Enjoy fellas.   0:00 Intro1:59 Chase-Sexuals2:48 Most Popular Yet Most Private5:00 Favorite Music8:17 Go To Fast Food11:35 Football Fandom16:30 Chase And His Dad’s Relationship25:21 Did He Always Want To Race?29:52 What NASCAR Rule Would He Change?31:44 Anti-Talladega Nights?34:05 All The Details That Go Into NASCAR38:41 2019 Charlotte Roval42:55 Any Run-Ins With His Crew Members?46:16 Star-Struck Moment Making It To NASCAR48:39 The Change From The #24 Car To #9 Car54:01 Thoughts On Hocevar?56:51 How Would He Describe His Teammates?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're the fan favorite. The one, the only, Chase Elliott, let's give him a round of a pause. His fans are called Chase Sexuals. Now, you did an interview not so long ago where a guy referred to them as chase sexuals and you sat back stoically and you're like, well, I don't know anything about that.

Have you done any investigative reporting on why your fans are called chase sexuals? The only information I have on this is what I've been told. And honestly, it's kind of more fun that way because I don't know how much I want to know about this. Yeah. So I'm good. I'm good with it.

They've been good to me, but I don't know what they're called. I'll say this about you, Chase. We've only been on here for a couple of minutes. you've got a nice beard, strong jaw line, handsome boy. You seem a little more like an observant type of cat. And I think that's why I'm starting to figure out why they're calling them chase sexuals. Oh, because they're into them.

Yeah, because they're into them. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. It could be. I know having somebody like Chase Elliott on, anybody that's come on the bus, whether it's William Byering, Kyle Larson, Ryan Blaney, everybody said, Chase Elliott, it's going to be interesting to see if we can get much out of them. Because apparently you're, you keep to yourself.

man, I don't know why they give me such a hard time, especially Ryan. Like, we're pretty good friends. So I don't know. I don't feel like I'm that complex. I don't know why this is being assumed towards me. You've been voted the most popular NASCAR driver for eight years, but you also seem to be voted the most private guy in NASCAR. What keeps you so private in wanting to keep whatever?

the person, like whatever the things you do in private away from the public, not whether it's personality, like, yeah, private, popular. Yeah. Why are you the most private guy in NASCAR as well? I mean, I wouldn't say I'm necessarily the most private. I just, I don't know. It's not that I'm like out trying to be super private. I'm just also not like putting everything I do on blast.

Like I guess that's probably more of my route. Like, I'm just not, I don't know. Like, I just don't care to let the world know my every move as far as, like, you know, I feel like some people wake up in the morning and they post, I'm going to get breakfast or I'm going here. You know, my coffee this morning was incredible or whatever it was. But I don't know. I just, yeah, like, I, you know, I have a good group of friends around home. And I feel like my circle is pretty small in general.

but yeah, I wouldn't say I'm like super shy per se, but I just, yeah, I just choose not to put everything I do on blast out there, I guess. It's not like I'm trying to be any certain way. It's just a little bit of how I am, I suppose. You just do your thing, just drive fast. The only thing you can be is hang with the boys. Yeah. Can we start with some light questions?

Yeah, let's start with some fun ones. Let's let me ask you a question, well. Okay. If you had to say like your favorite band of all time, what would it be? Favorite band? Is that a tough one? You're not a huge music guy. I'm not like I, I enjoy music.

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. But as far as like naming my favorite band of all time, like I don't, I don't know. I don't really have. Let's just say ACDC. Yeah, there we go. We'll see ACDC. I'll go, Chase, I'll go Blink 182 is my favorite band.

What is your, if you're putting on a song and you're like, I need to get the juices flowing this morning. I'm not going to post about it, but I'm still going to enjoy this in my inner circle. What song are you putting on? Oh man. A song in particular is tough. I mean, Blink 182 is a strong choice. I'm not going to lie. Okay.

All right. I love that like punk rock early 2000s. Blink 192, pop punk bands, you're into it early 2000s. Give me a barrage of bands you like to listen to. I'll wait 10 seconds. Waiting 10. Yeah, I mean, I love that era of music for sure. I always, you know, like the Green Day vibe back then, I thought it was incredible.

It's kind of a shame. Like, Ryan and I actually talked about this not too long ago about how no one has really, or maybe it just hasn't got popular, but no one has really tried to bring that back. Like all you, I mean, you have like some of those older bands that are trying to stay around, but you haven't really seen a new rendition of that. So I would love to see it. But I would say nowadays, I'm probably more of a country guy. I love Eric Church.

Stud. Been a big fan of his for a long time. Yeah, he's pretty tough to beat, I feel like, in the music industry. And then also kind of more on the up and coming side, Muscatine Bloodline. Oh, good pull. Bussing fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty good crew.

Yeah, they probably, yeah, I would say Charlie. I could see him, I could see him being on board. If you had like how baseball players have like walk-up songs, WWE, they have walkout songs. If you had one song and you're driving out to it, what would it be? Oh, man. I would say,

we'll say, holding my own, Eric Church. Oh, okay. That's a good poll. I would have said, The Outsiders by Eric Church. That to me is a song that just kind of, in 2016,

that was our go-out song as an offensive line when we go out for warm-ups. And then, you know, they start going. They're the end crowd. We're the other ones. And it just started getting going a little bit.

So, yeah, walk-out song. E.C. He rips, musketine bloodline. They also go, and I want to get back to, it feels like there's not a lot of bands out there that are doing that old type of genre anymore. Have you doving into Machine Gun Kelly, Swayco, those types of guys? Because like Machine Gun Kelly, he was doing rap for a little bit. And he's come out with three albums in that pop punk kind of era. And man, what is it? Tickets to my downfall is the first album he came out. I think it was like 2020, the same year you won a Cup series. And buddy, I'm telling you, if you're into that music, you will get goosebumps the minute you put on the first track of that, of that album. It's unbelievable. Listen, I am also not like, it's my way or the highway on the music thing. I'm open. I'm open.

I'm open to ideas. I'm open to new music. So I'll give it a run. How about this light question, Chase? What's a fast food order that you would die on a hill for? Whether or not people would trash it or not, what's the go-to fast food order for you? I'm going to go to food. Man, I, it's really hard to go wrong with the, well, trying to think here.

I mean, Chick-fil-A, like, if I don't care if you're having a good day or a bad day, like the Lord's chicken is tough to be. The Lord's chicken. The Lord's chicken. Do they have so many sauces? Anything. Anything. Yeah, the waffle fries, the milkshakes.

I'm a big ice cream guy. The milkshakes just go out of hand for me. I absolutely love it. I'm a big milkshake guy. He's not wrong either because the Chick-fil-A menu, it always is like, it's not like, I do have like a go-to with a spicy chicken sandwich, but no matter what, anytime I hit the drive-thru on Jet Chick-fil-A, I almost don't know what I want at first, whether it be the chicken nuggets or the sandwich.

Anything you do get, it's like, yeah, it's a good order. Like, hey, what sauce do you want? It's consistent. You guys got a lot of good. good sauces. I know. Take five of each, throw them in the bag. Yeah. Let me eat a separate bag of sauces. Yeah. What's your stance on Ranch versus Blue Cheese? Just never know. Oh, Blue Cheese is just simply not an option. I just, if you like Blue Cheese, I worry about you. I really do.

Chase, let me tell you something, buddy, so far, we can listen to music together, and it sounds like we could dip some sauces together. Because to me, like if Blue Cheese was a human being, I'm committing first degree, if you know what I mean. I think blue cheese is one of the most horrendous things all the time. Full support. Yeah. You'd be here. I like it. It's on it.

I find it to be comical like when you're, you know, you go somewhere and you get wings and they're like rancher blue cheese. I'm like, man, like, why, why are you asking me this? Yeah. Like are you trying to think your culture because you have moldy cheese in my dipping sauce? That's disgusting. Yeah. I don't know. I've just, I've not, I'm not grasped that.

But I'm definitely a ranch guy all the way. Yeah. Then you can't help but to throw a little judgment at somebody that does order blue cheese. Yeah. And then you go up to Buffalo and they all will die on the hill of blue cheese is the number one thing of all time. And you're like, these people just don't know. And they think they're better than you. Yeah.

Oh, dude, you go up to like Rochester. We were in Rochester for the Bill's trading camp last year. And you go up there and it's like wings. It's like their thing. They made it popular. And then it's like you, if you ask for a ranch at the restaurant, they're kind of like, it's like going to a nice steakhouse and asking for like a dipping sauce. So like, oh, well, this steak doesn't need it.

It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Give me the sauce. Give me the Bernice. Give me the peppercorn, all the stuff. I want all the sauces with my steak. I'm a big sauce guy. What was it like getting into a little bit? I've never been to a place that people preferred that.

So that's good to know. And I like pulling for the bills, you know? Like, I don't have basically like a good group. So now that I'm not sure. I question that a little bit. I like pulling for the bills. I don't know if I will. You're not going to find a more.

fan base of blue-collar individuals than in Buffalo. Those people, the tailgating, the mustard, the way they get after it, week in and week out, they're number one. I saw you're a big Georgia fan just in sports in general, big Georgia bulldog guy. What about the NFL? Like, are you NFL at all? Are you mostly college sports? I would say, like from a football side, I definitely, and probably bigger into the college stuff, but I love watching it all. I mean, I'm a big sports fan in general. I don't, I've never really had a, like a NFL team. I've always kind of been one of the guys that you kind of, and I guess the NIL thing has probably changed this some, but used to it was like, man, you know, Matt Stafford spent four years at Georgia and, you know,

you had all these different players, whoever it was, like name your favorite player from your favorite school when they go off and they play in the NFL. You kind of, I don't know, I kind of gravitate to certain players that I enjoy watching in college on on Sundays, but I don't have like one team where I'm like, man, this is this is my crew, which I maybe I should pick one, but I don't know, I kind of become, I just kind of become a fan of certain guys and I like to see them do well and they might, you know, might be a few different teams, but I love watching. I mean, there's, especially like for us, like, you know, we're busy obviously on Sundays, but like those Monday night, games and Thursday night games. Yeah, love sitting down and watching, and I'll pretty much watch whoever. Like, I don't really care who's playing. Did you think it was crazy? Being a Georgia fan after you guys whooped Alabama's ass in the SEC championship game,

do you feel like they should have got knocked out of the playoffs? Man, I don't know. I feel like Georgia's been on both sides of that fence before. I feel like, you know, there's been years where they've gotten, you know, gotten through. So I don't know. I don't know enough about all how the politics of the behind the scenes of that works. But as a biased Georgia fan, yes, I think they should always get in every year.

No question. Whether they won all the games or won two, I think they should get in. Yeah. You said you like to root for certain individuals, not just specific teams. Who is your favorite player of all time? Like your biggest fan of you brought up Matthew Stafford. He obviously won an MVP last year. went to Georgia.

I can see that being easy down the middle strike for you. But is there anybody else, you're like, I love watching this guy play ball. Dude, right now it's been Josh Allen. I just, that guy. Back on the Bills, back on the Bills. I know. Josh Allen loves Blue Cheese. He loves Blue Cheese.

I don't want this to be, like, confused. I'm not a diehard Bills fan, but I do love watching Josh Allen play football. I think he is, you know, he's just an electric player. I mean, he lays it out there. He is, obviously he's a big dude. Take some tough hits. Take some big runs. Like just, he's willing to lay it out there.

And it's fun to watch. So I think he's been the most entertaining. And also, too, like his story of not having gotten over the hump yet, I think makes it really, like, really easy to pull for him. You know, I just, I don't know. I just, I'd love to see him get one. And I thought last year was it. I had a pretty strong feeling that that was their year. but yeah, I'd love to see him get it done before he hangs it up.

How mad were you when he fumbled before halftime? I guess the Broncos. I felt the same way. Like, it felt like that that could have been, you know, Josh, he's obviously got to put the cape on at times. But yeah, the couple turnovers is tough. They were my preseason team last year to go to the Super Bowl, get over the hump. Because I'm the same way as you.

Like, Josh, friend of the show, great guy. You see how much talent he has. And you just want, like the bills being like the team that would, they go four years in a row in the early, like late 90s or the 2000s or whatever was. Where they go four Super Bowl straight and can't get over the hump of getting one and that fan base. It's like they, those people, those people deserve one. They deserve to grab it. Did you, you grew up, obviously your dad was one of the most beloved racers of all time in NASCAR. Did you guys watch football together as well?

Was he a big football fan? He really isn't. And he wasn't really as I was growing up. I think I kind of was the sports fan in the house. So he watched football, but it was because I wanted to watch it. I don't think as much because he wanted to watch growing up. But he became a fan too, you know, of watching guys. Like when I was a kid and still living at home, like, you know, that was the Tom Brady era.

You know, so it was really easy to really, you know, I think he liked him, like watching. and play, you know, through that time. But he was never, yeah, never super into it. But I appreciate him toughen it out and watching it because I did. I definitely got the sports bug at a pretty young age. What do you think your dad was most annoyed with you on growing up? Oh, Lord. Man, I don't know. What was he not annoyed with me on? I feel like more than anything. But I think, Goodness, that's a really tough one. I think just in general, you know, his upbringing and kind of the path that they took was, you know, really different than mine. And, you know, he just had, and I think early on he taught me some really valuable lessons just about the race and thing and how some.

serious it was and I probably get some of that from him like I do I take it serious you know and and it's uh also I mean look I try to have fun too but he um he definitely instilled early to hey look if you're going to do this like we're going to do it right and and this is going to be uh you know it's not all fun in games there's there's a time and a place for it but I think I think I was probably on the you know, too much of the fun side early on and that probably didn't set well. So he, you know, in the right way, you know, in the right way, definitely taught me to that lesson early. And really ever since then, I can remember some specific conversations where, you know, it was brought up. And then from there it was, you know, hey, I get it. And I respected it and

respected him enough to, you know, want to, you know, try and do things the way that he wanted him done. What was it like growing up with him as a father? We had Dale Earnhardt, Jr. on the show multiple times. And one story told about his dad, how his dad was extremely strict. He was obviously a nickname the enforcer for a reason in NASCAR, but he was that way at home as well. The intimidator. He came home one time after doing something wrong. And his dad essentially hit the belt, like started to unloose in the belt.

And Dale ripped it out and head behind like a bale of hay until nightfall took place. And he's like, I think now that's been hours, I can kind of cruise back into the house. and everything ended up being okay, but he was talking about how strict he was and how it had to be done a certain way. What was your dad like growing up? Similar in a lot of ways. I mean, I did.

I got the belt when I was young, too, so I definitely understand that. I definitely have my share of trying to get away from that too, like everyone. I don't know how much nowadays, but probably you guys probably had to do, had to do some running on that front too. Pick the type of ass open.

You want it. Yeah, there's a few times. Yeah, like you were, you were going to get your ass to, for sure, if you did something wrong. So I, um, very similar, you know, I think from, from the outside dad, um, probably had a little different complexion just from, you know, that you just don't know, right? Like, you don't know people super well unless you, unless you know them. And, um, so yeah, he was, he was strict in a lot of ways, but what was really cool for me was as I got older, I felt, you know, especially as I started racing more and kind of started

doing the NASCAR thing and was taking some of those bigger steps, I just felt like he, he respected me a lot and he trusted me a lot too at the same time. And even though there were days that, you know, like I could remember there was a race, I was racing for the lead at Bristol and ended up crashing and, you know, messed it up for a few, of us there but you know he just kind of looked at me on the ride home and he was like ah you'd have to kind of know him but he not a word other than i don't think i would have done that and that was it and that was it it was just i don't think i would have done that and um i don't know i just felt like he he he grew to have a lot of respect for me and how i race and if there

were ever days that he might have gone about something different it was typically a you know a sly comment like that. Yeah. It got the message across, right? And it made me think twice about something like that in the future. And those are all, all good lessons. But I just appreciate the way he, you know,

he's shown me respect as I've gotten older. And he's kind of let me do my thing, my way a little bit, you know, which I think's cool. I was going to say, when you look back at some of the tough moments you have with the whole father-son dynamic,

what is something that you appreciate now that you didn't appreciate back then growing up? Man, so much. I mean, I, you know, especially, you know, I have buddies that have kids now and you kind of see them parenting. And then I think about my dad and kind of the way he parented me through some of those situations. So I don't know. I think your perspective on all of that stuff changes a lot as you get older. And just the different variations of ways parents like connect with their kids or, you know, discipline their kids or try and teach lessons.

So I don't know. That's tough to pick one thing, but my perspective has changed so much. I don't know about one particular thing, I guess, is the short answer, but I definitely respect kind of how he went about my childhood and me growing up, just because, again, there was discipline and there were things that he wanted to make sure his point got across and they were definitely understood. But there was also a lot of respect given to and I just felt like that. It was always an option for me to not race or do whatever I want to do.

There was never any pressure there. And looking back on that, I really appreciate it because I think it will be really easy for a parent to have a lot of success in a sport and like, you know, just drill that in you and not really give you an option. And that wasn't the case. it all for him. So I always thought that was really cool. That is a very unique perspective to have because having kids now for me, the only thing I knew growing up was sports. Like you play sports throughout the year, you do it. And so now that my kids, I have a nine-year-old and a soon-to-be-six-year-old.

And I'm like, I'm giving them every chance to love sports, but my nine-year-old's more like wants to go dance with the dandy lions and do her thing. So that's like hard for me to not to be like, well, the only thing I know is sports. So you should go play sports. And so we've had a couple back and forth on that. But overall, like you have to let your kid be your child. kid. You mentioned your dad grew to respect you as a racer. You felt though he grew to respect you as a racer. Was there a moment for you after a race during a race maybe something happened? The way you handled that adversity that your dad might have said something to you and be like, you know what? I feel like he's actually starting to respect me in the lane he

was so successful at. Yeah, it's a really good question. Yes. There's a big short track race in the southeast. It's called the Snowball Derby. It's down in Pensacola. of Florida. It's every December and that's kind of the biggest asphalt short track race in the country. People travel, you know, all across the United States for that race. And, you know, that was, you know, really that through those years that I was going down there were some of the most influential of my whole career, truthfully, without the success of some of those seasons and some of those years. I don't really know that I would have had the opportunities later on down the road. but long story short we were fortunate enough to win that race and um you know i just i i i remember

him uh coming on the radio there after the race and i can't remember the exact words but you know just basically saying man you did the damn good job today and and it was just like i was kind of wowed at the um just the way he said it you know things just mean a certain way at certain times and that specific time I was like man you know I I feel like I really you know really made him proud today and and went in that race and kind of the way we the way we navigated the whole weekend it was just all a really really good weekend for us and I felt like I felt like I learned a lot of his respect throughout the course of not maybe not necessarily just that day but kind of a few of those years put together of just putting my head down saying hey look I'm

going to take this serious this is what I want to do I want to show you this is is what I want to do. And, you know, obviously, you know, he was a big supporter and all that. And I remember kind of getting through with that one and thinking, man, you know, I, I feel like we, you know, we made him proud. And that was really, really a cool moment for me. That's a badass story. It is.

While you're like telling that story, you're like showing, hey, I want to do this. This is what I want to do. Was there ever a point in your life you're like, oh, I don't want to do NASCAR? Maybe I want to do something else instead. Or was it always kind of like, you're like, you? your dad questioning, but you'd be like, no, no, no, I want to do this. Like, how do I show you? And even just to build on that, too, like being featured in something, like, where will they be when you were one of 14 youth prodigies on Sports Illustrated, being that young, being like, man, is this the career I am going to go after?

Yeah, you know, fortunately for me, and again, it wasn't like, it wasn't like I was, it was never forced on me. You know, I had such a unique perspective of racing. and, you know, I think racing in general gets some probably an incorrect vibe. You know, a lot of people go to races to watch wrecks and they go to races to, you know, if we get in a fight or the chaos or the crashing or, you know, whatever. But I had such a unique perspective growing up of kind of what went on behind the scenes and, you know, the amount of work and effort and time and how much of a team sport it was and just all the men and women that were behind the scenes to make it happen,

but then also beyond that, the craft of driving that made a guy go from being good to being great and all the details that are behind that and just the small little things behind the wheel that we're looking for on a weekly basis to be a little better than the next guy. And I fell in love with that. That was what I fell in love with was just all that little stuff and the little things that, you know, made people great, you know, throughout those years of just being a fan and watching and being a kid and just taking it all in.

But, you know, of course, when you're, you know, especially back then, I mean, NASCAR was rocking and rolling through the early 2000s. And, you know, my dad was a part of the show. Like, what kid would not want to go and do that when you are sitting there, going to the race at Bristol in the fall? and it's a packed house of a hundred and however many thousand people and your dad is is a part of this event right like i just i was my jaw was on the floor constantly every week as a six seven eight year old kid and um so of course that makes you want to do it and and at least you know

your interest level is super high and then you get older and you start kind of going down the path of doing it and to me that was really when the question you had to answer it for yourself do I really want to do this. Am I good enough to do this? Do I, you know, do I actually have a shot? And, you know, fortunately, the, you know, missing things at school, missing, you know, events with my buddies or friends going off to college and you're not going and, you know, wanting to hang out with them. And all those little things that you kind of miss out on over the years, I think you kind of come to a crossroads of like, man, you know, am I okay with missing all these things? do I want to go and do this?

And for me, the answer was always, it just continued to be yes. Like, yes, I still want to do this. Yes, I still want to pursue this dream. No, I'm not tired of it. I think I'm good enough to do it. And opportunities, and fortunately, enough success came along with that, that, you know, it worked out in the stars lined. And, you know, Rick got involved and wanted to help for some reason back then.

I still haven't figured that out, but fortunately he did. Yeah, I kind of led to where we are today. But it's been a fun road and certainly thankful I stuck with it. And just thankful that my desire and drive and passion for the sport and the craft and all the little things that go into it, you know, never went away. We end up this episode to bring you Form Energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from green.

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You speak about falling in love with like the actual sport of NASCAR and everything that goes into the sport. If you could change one rule, what would that rule be? Great question. One rule, boy, you won't get me in trouble. That's really tough. Right now, I would lobby for more Saturday night races. It's really simple. And, you know, it's not necessarily a rule,

but I think that our sport, especially this time of the year, like I mentioned it a second ago, like unprompted, the Saturday night race at Bristol in the fall, was like there was nothing, there was nothing any better than that. And I think our fans and the people that watch NASCAR, I think we all miss that Saturday night energy and that vibe around the races.

And I would love to have more of them. We don't have a lot of them in general. We have some of these Sunday night races, which I think are just kind of awkward for people, you know, going back to work on Monday morning. You know, and then certainly, unfortunately, when you have a rain delay, like we did at Atlanta, We finished at 2 a.m.

So, you know, kind of tough. But I just, the energy and the atmosphere that is extracted from our sport on a Saturday night race, especially some of these short tracks is pretty elite, in my opinion, in sports. And I would love to have more of them. I couldn't agree with you more. Like having a Sunday where fans want to go and they want to drive out to wherever the racetrack is, and they want to get after it, have fun and experience that use their harder money to watch you guys do something at an elite level. It's like.

And not think about Monday. Not think about Monday. Because you're like in your head, you're like, I really want to let loose and have fun, but there's something in the back of your head. But you can't. Yeah, I got to get going Monday. Like I can't miss this tomorrow's day. Yeah.

I'm with the Saturday move. You were saying like a lot of fans kind of misconstrue how like NASCAR really is and they want to show for the crashes and the party and all that. That tells me that you're on the stance of anti-Taladega nights. Am I correct in saying that? Because the cool thing here with me is sorry. cut you off. We've had so many people on the bus now. Multiple guys at one time and then, you know, individuals as well. And it's been such a crazy contrast of eye opening to me. That movie is a disgrace to our sport, has literally been set on this bus. And then it's also

been called a documentary. So I need to know, I got to know where you stand on Talladega nights. Yeah, I'm not a fan. Okay. All right. Yeah. I'm not a fan. Not even a little bit of it. Are you a will fail guy? Uh, yeah, like some of his movies. But here, listen, you have to understand. There is a, this is not me saying I don't like to have a good time because I 100% do. I think there's a time for that. Like Talladega, you know, especially the infield and all that. Like I've been there, I've done it.

It's a blast. Don't get me wrong. If you haven't been, go. It's fun. I just think that, you know, there is a time in place for that. And then there's also space in that to respect the craft of what we do. And I kind of like to have a little bit of both where I don't think Talladeg Nights is a very good representation of the driver's viewpoint of what we do behind the wheel. So I think that's where probably more than just me, it sounds like, just feel like, man, it's such a misrepresentation of our jobs and the work and the time that we put into our craft.

none of that is felt or understood in that movie. So I think that's where I'm just like, man, this is just such a terrible representation of every piece of what we do and why I think it's cool. But I also understand that people think things are cool for different reasons. But I just don't think the reasons that I respect and love our sport are exemplified very well in that movie. I'll tell you this. It's a good breakdown. I almost feel like I can't like it as much as I do.

My stance on telling me that's going to stay the same. I can respect Chase. I do love the movie. Here's the two things. One that I kind of gathered when I was in Nashville for the race. I grew up, my grandfather would take me the PIR. We would go to those races every single year and you'd watch it. But as an eight-year-old, you're like, this is just really cool.

Look how fast they're all going. You don't understand it. Fans, people will become fans if they go to the race. You hear the roar of the car. You get able to watch the pit stops and live. time, seeing the cars going around. But I think another thing that needs to happen is someone needs to kind of break down when you got, you know, three wide guys are drafting. They're making a move. How somebody shuts them down. Like when we see that happening in real time, I know for me,

I can't break down like, oh, this is what the driver is doing from a defensive standpoint and the other driver's doing from an offensive standpoint. I wish there was somebody that could go, and whether it's YouTube or during the broadcast, where they're showing how people are using, their feet and pedals and the whole thing to kind of show how they're manipulating their car to get one up or be defensive. And I just, I don't know how that looks, but because all the things you're saying, the thing that is going against you is you're inside of a car. So I don't get to watch all your mannerisms and movements of what you're looking at,

everything like that as opposed to like a football or hockey or baseball or anything like that. Am I on the right page here? Yeah, I think, yeah, I think you are for sure. and I think that, like, you know, I wish more of us had onboard cameras, too, like, because I'm fascinated today, to this day, I can sit and watch somebody's onboard and just be, I mean, I can be glued. I could watch the race from somebody's onboard camera, watching a driver and watching outside of their car all day.

I mean, I can sit there and watch it. And I think that for me, it's because, you know, I do have an understanding of what's going on, but I would love to incorporate more of that into our broadcast. I think that TV sometimes they find themselves in a little bit of a tough spot here. And I can understand both sides where you have a fan that might be watching for a long time or somebody like me who just wants to see it on board and talk about all these little details like you're mentioning. But then you also have fans that are new to our sport that don't understand any of this that's going on. And it's like, I think they sometimes worry if they get too far into the details.

Are they going to lose the people that have just started watching and not bring them closer to it and almost push them away? And I think sometimes that's the fear. But I love that stuff. And I told a lot of friends, like we watched a lot of flow over the winter. You know, they shoot me. And like, like, I'm like, man, I've watched. I've watched enough football in my life now that I'm almost to the point where like I love watching the game.

Am I entertained by the game? Absolutely. But I want to know more. Like I want to know why, you know, if the linebacker moves left or the safety drops back and the quarterback changes the play, well, what did he see? Why? Like, why did that happen?

Can someone explain this to me? Like, I want to start learning more about what's going on. And so that's me, though, and it sounds like that's you too. And I think there's a lot of people out there that would love that type of information given, but it would also take a little work, right? Like it's not just something you're going to pick up overnight, and you've got to be willing to put the time in to learn it. And I just think if people were willing to put some extra time into learning about all the details that our sport has to offer,

I think it would be hooked even more than you already were to begin with. Yeah, because I remember, like, to bring it back to Dale who was on the bus, He was talking about rising through the ranks of NASCAR, and he had this driver, he didn't say what driver it was, but they'd come around this turn, they'd be in this certain position over and over again, and the driver would always get the best of him. And his dad referenced using his break a certain way on a turn,

and he did it the next race and tap the guy just enough. He ended up getting run off into the grass, and he won the race. And it's like those little small intricate details are so fascinating to me, because when you're talking about why is the linebacker move and the safety, it's like, oh, well, in my head I'm playing the reasons why people can do that

because we've been in it for so long. And it'd be really cool to see why you would hit your brake versus the gas and where you would position yourself on a car because you see the takeover and they're awesome, but you don't know the full detail of everything going on. Yeah, 100%.

What would, on that note, is there, like how do you go back in 2019 in Charlotte where you hit your brakes lock, you go into the wall, you go from first to last, and then you still end up winning the race. Like, is there a crash course that you could give us and fans on how the hell you even pull that off?

And then obviously celebrating with a little burnout and running yourself into the wall for some fun, but how does that even happen? I'd like to point out before you answer that question, that's a Tel Liga Knight's reference. If you're not first or last. Yeah, yeah. So just so it's not 100% wrong.

Right. Yeah, no, I get it. I got it. But I, yeah, man, it was a, it was a wild, wild experience. I, I, uh, you talk about a roller coaster of emotions now. I was on it. I was driving the train, uh, that day for sure. It was, we were, we were super good that weekend, um, you know, and, and boy, if you

needed me to mess, if you needed a guy to mess something up, I was him. I was the one. And, um, you know, we, we had a restart and, um, you know, we had to restart and, at the time to kind of give you some more detail. You're asking for detail, so I'm going to give it to you. The restart zone at that particular race was not the same way we exited the last corner onto the straightaway during a normal lap. So at Charlotte, the road course kind of goes through the infield.

NASCAR decided that they didn't want the restart to do the same thing because the field was going to be strung out so long. They wanted to just have a normal restart like you were running the oval, and then you would then break and go into turn one. Well, I miscalculated my breaking spot because I was going way faster than I had been going on a normal lap, and I had gotten so used to my cadence of, like, when I was breaking and when I was stopping, I had gotten so used to doing that over and over and over again, that I kind of drove to a similar mark.

and boy when I stepped on the brakes I was like this is not going to work we are we are not going to make it um and yeah i just locked locked it up drove straight in the fence and um fortunately there was a bunch of tire barriers in turn one so it was actually really soft like a pretty soft hit and um yeah somehow it it didn't tear the car up all that bad and uh yeah we threw some duct tape on it and line back up there last And there was just enough laps to get back up to the field. But we were really fast. We had a really good run of road races there for a few years, honestly, where we just had a ton of pace and things rocking and rolling.

I was really comfortable in the cars and the setups we had going on. Yeah, kind of cut back up through there and got back up to, like, I don't know, 10th or 8th or somewhere and had a couple cautions. and I was like, man, like, we might actually have a shot at this thing somehow. And, yeah, the race kind of kept playing along, kept fall under her hands, got the cautions at the right time. I was able to get back up there. Even had a few laps to spare.

We got out front and led the last handful. So it was pretty cool. Is there ever a moment where you're, once you're in the lead on the last few laps or were you just kind of, I don't know, laugh with the boys on the mic? Like, I can't believe we just went from. How about that shit, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah i mean that was definitely the day for it for sure i think for me like i was so i wanted to crawl

in the deepest hole you could find because i thought that i had thrown this race away you know i mean like i just felt like such an idiot and um so yeah i think for me my my emotions were uh just so all over the place it probably took me a bit to realize just exactly what all went on and how funny the whole situation was but i can tell you this Boy, it was not funny in the moment. It was, I thought they were, I mean, I'm sure they wanted to kill me. I'm sure everybody did. Like, we were, you know, we were, we were chilling.

And, yeah, didn't work, didn't work out for a bit. But thankfully, it came back around. Yeah. You talk about guys wanting to kill you. What's the biggest running you've ever had with like a crew chief or a pit crew guy or someone on your team that, have you ever just pissed him off beyond belief for they're chewing your ass out? Um, I mean, I have for sure.

I mean, like on my team in particular, you're talking about? Yeah. Man, I feel like my guys have been pretty nice to me over the years. Like, I don't know. I can't think of a time where we're like, you know, at each other's throats by any means. I mean, I'm sure there's days where they are not happy with me and the decision that I made on track. But they've always given me a lot of respect.

So I can't say I've had a bad run in internally like that. I mean, certainly I've gotten into it with some other drivers over the years. But for the most part, I feel like we've stayed locked arms pretty tight throughout the course of my career. Let me ask you this. When that situation happens in 2019 and you're in last place, the car is running great and you want to crawl into a deep dark hole, what are the comms like with the radio? It's a little more quiet for a little bit. You guys got the duct tape back on it.

It's just, yeah. We all know what happened. There were no comms. You're just racing quietly, that dark drive by yourself. I didn't want to hear a word. I didn't want to hear a word. I'm sure nobody wanted to speak a word to me. And honestly, it's probably the best,

it's probably the best medicine I could have got at that point in time because I locked in. I mean, I didn't think there was any shot we were ever going to win that race after I crashed. So let's be clear there. But as we got back rolling, my hope my hope meter started to grow and um i thought man there would be no better way for me to fix this than go and and get this done so it um yeah i was pretty motivated to to do everything in

my power to uh you know try and get back up through there and um yeah the moods were the moods were much different than i thought they were going to be no question no doubt is there a crew from another team out there that you've pissed off that's kind of gone under the radar over the years? I don't think so. I mean, I would say in those instances that I've gotten into it with some other drivers, like, you know, Denny and I had a couple runs there at different points in time. Me and Harvard got into it at one point in time. There was a race, Joey and I crashed.

I actually kind of ran him in the fence. inadvertently. So I'm sure that, you know, there have been team guys that are mad and probably want to come, you know, run me up the road, but they haven't. I feel like it's been more, you know, they left the drivers and they left their guy kind of handle it the way that they see fit. And I think that's pretty normal. You know, like the on track stuff, I feel like is for the most part between the drivers. Like, we're driving the cars and we, you know, try to take. responsibility for the things that happen whether you're in the right or in the wrong and sometimes you're not going to see eye to eye but like for the most part the crew guys kind of let us

um you know let us handle that yeah when you're when you're coming up in the ranks like when your first time you get in the uh the cup series like what's the most intimidated you've ever been by another driver it doesn't have to be an interaction between the two where you guys getting a crash but maybe you see somewhere you're like holy shit that's so-and-so i can't believe on the same track as them yeah i mean for me i would say It was that rookie year at Tal-Dade, or I'm sorry, at Daytona. We went down there for the 500. You have to remember, like, I grew up around these guys.

Like, you know, and my dad and all these different guys that were racing still when I first started, I'm talking like these dudes were a big deal for me, you know? Like I have spent the majority of my life watching these guys race on TV. and, you know, being around them. So it wasn't necessarily. Rookie for me, actually, on the poll. We set fast time in qualifying. And, you know, here I was.

I was 20 years old. I just stepped into the 24 car. Jeff Gordon just retired. I was the guy to, you know, replace that seat. And I had, you know, probably no business being there at that point in time. And here I was, it was time to go. And I was starting first for the Daytona 500 in 2016. It was.

And I just remember getting done with driver intros. And my car was at the front of the grid. Obviously, he started first. So I'm literally walking by guys that, you know, I have grown up watching my entire life. And I'm, you know, fixing to lead the field to the green. And I just remember thinking, man, like, I don't know how much business I have doing. this right now, but here we go. And it was a lot, but it was a lot of fun looking back on and I'm so thankful for those memories and, you know, all the, all the nerves and just the

excitement that I had and just kind of seeing a dream, you know, literally come to reality in that moment. And it was wild. So it wasn't necessarily one person, but just literally walking past all of the legends of the sport of that time to go and start that race was was pretty surreal. Especially getting into 24. What's the story behind you making the switch from 24 to 9? Yeah, actually a pretty cool story. I mean, 9 is always my favorite number. So, you know, yes, yes, it was my dad's number.

And, you know, they had a lot of great success with it. But I really just loved the number. I just thought it looked good. It was kind of all I ever knew. I wasn't trying necessarily to like, you know, copy him. I just, I really loved the number. And as I raced more, it became, it became kind of home for me. It's kind of just, yeah, it's just what I wanted to be.

If I had a choice, that was always what I, you know, what I picked through sports, tee ball, you know, whatever it was. And obviously got to race in and, you know, ran around. doing the short track thing for many years. And, you know, we had had enough success to kind of get to the next thing and the next thing. And obviously when I started, you know, Jeff had stepped away. And really the only change in the 24 car was me. You know, Jeff, Jeff stepped out and retired.

And the rest of the team was all the exact same, including the number. So, you know, first off, what am I going to do? If Rick Hendrick walked up to you and said, hey, I want you to, I want you to drive the 24 car next year, I mean, I wasn't going to sit there and tell them, sorry, sir, you know, I can't do that unless it's the nine. So that wasn't going to happen. And I just never felt like I was in a position to ask for that. And I was never going to. I mean, I'll tell you straight up.

I was never going to ask to swap numbers. It just, it wasn't my place. He has done, you know, and had had done and has done since way too much for me to really ask for much of anything. but what had happened was we had had another driver change at HMS they're going into the 2018 season and it had gotten announced and I had one afternoon I had a text from Dale Jr and he said hey he said hey if you want to be number nine again now is your chance and I was like man you know I just, and I told him the exact same thing, I just told you all. I'm like, how in the world can I ask, if I can ask anything more? And he said, look, he said, you know, now is the time to do it.

It fits. It's you. It's, it's your family. It's an opportunity. If that's what you want to be, you know, this is going to be your last opportunity to do it with the changes that we had going on in the organization. I said, well, I'm, I said, of course I want to, but, you know, I'm going to need your help. Like I'm going to need you to kind of help, you know, talk to the boss and make sure that I'm not, you know, overstepping my, my boundary here. And so he did. And, and he kind of helped kind of push me to start asking questions. And then I think he also kind of gave the boss a nudge about, you know, how cool it would be to make that swap and to make it happen. So Rick ended up reaching out to Richard Petty at the time who owned the nine and through the different.

ownership induced throughout the years it had wound up with you know with richard and he said look you can have it and he said if you if you want it um you can have it and he gave him the ownership rights of the number and uh and off we went so long story short dale junior is is the reason for the switch and i'm thankful for it because it uh it definitely feels like home for me you know for a lot of different reasons uh the number is special to my family and um and all the people over the people over the years that have kind of helped my career and my dad's career become what it was and what it is today. So I'm grateful for that. And yeah, and also kind of the story and the run of being so close to winning in the 24 and just never got over the hump. And then, you know, it got to 2018 and we swapped

numbers. And that was the year I got my first win. And it just kind of seemed like the, that was the way the story was meant to be. And it was, you know, really, really part of. That's sick. Shut on Dale. Junior man. I know Dale is the man for that. You know he's probably playing college football 27 right now as we do this. With a new with a new group of boys too. He got kicked out of his league. And probably not. Oh no. No. We lost him. Chase you got us, buddy. Chase you got us? Oh, I think I lost you again. Oh, we're back. I lost you again. I think I got you back too. Perfect. Oh, man. Did you have a good

college football 27 joke in there on dale junior it sounds like he did i i didn't know that then you're probably right i bet he is he is playing or if he's not he will be he will be soon he's a big he's a big fan he's got the playbook out right now he's dialing everything in there i just saw a thing on college football 27 everyone who's played it through a season so far brys underwood always transfers it's a bad omen it's a bad oman i hate that chase i went to michigan that's our quarterback Bryce Underwood. It's it's heartbreaking that a video game trying to put that kind of evil on me. Before we get you out of here, ma'am, I want to ask about one individual. I ask about them every single podcast. NASCAR probably told you this idiot Taylor's going to ask you about this guy.

Talk to me about Carson Hosevar. It's third last week. Every driver that's come in has been a little more like, ah, you know, some guys are more blunt than others. But what has your experience been like with Carson Hosefar? I wore number 77 football. When we started the show, I was like, I need to get back into this. Who should I root for? Overwhelming was Carson Hosevar. It seems like a guy who's loved and hated at the same time. My big Yian Yang takes place.

He doesn't mind running somebody in the wall when he needs to. He'll hold a grudge. What has it been like for you and him? Yeah. It's kind of funny you ask. I know he's been a hot topic here lately, but I have no issues with him. I really don't. And, you know, he's a guy that, you know, he's racing me hard.

we've, there's been a couple times I felt like maybe like right around his rookie year that he kind of rubbed me the wrong way a couple times. But, you know, I do remember having a couple conversations with him there early on, you know, respectfully, you know, just best I knew how. And ever since then, we have been totally good. And I feel like he always treats me with a lot of respect on track. He races hard, but I'm okay with that, you know, unless he's running me in the fence or crashing me or, you know, something stupid. But I'm kind of good right now. So subject to change. I mean, who knows? Like, you never know what's going to happen next week. But I feel like he's giving me quite a lot of respect, really ever since those early on incidents

that I wouldn't even say incidents, but just conversations we had, just kind of, um, you know, racers talking back and forth. So I wish I had something juicier and better to give you, but I don't. Did you talk? We've kind of been good. So I'm, I have no, I have no issue right now. Did you talk to him the same way that Bubba did?

I know there's a viral video of Bubba kind of like sitting like up on the wall a little bit. And he's like kind of talking at him a little bit. Was that kind of your conversation or was it like, hey, just so you know. I haven't seen the video of that, but no. I mean, I wasn't talking at him. And by any means, like, I think it was just more of a conversation of, you know, hey, maybe I would have done this. I guess coming back to my dad's way of telling me I wouldn't have done that.

So inadvertently, but probably more of that route than I was, you know, talking at him. So, yeah, nothing fiery, nothing mean, nothing dramatic. Just, hey, you know, let's think about this a little differently. I feel like with me at least, it's been all good. Nothing juicy with Hosevar, but how about a juicy little fun fact about your teammates at Hendrick Motorsports, William Byron and Kyle Larson? Any juicy fun factor or a sentence you would have to describe them that people wouldn't know about?

Man, I'm trying to think. I mean, you know, Kyle obviously is, you know, outracing a lot. and I feel to see him probably not as much William William really is fascinated me throughout the course of his career

and just his path and how different it is and has been you know like for me and Kyle both and honestly I would say the majority of the guys that race in the field

no different than ball and golf or t-ball or football at a young age I mean, you're starting to do these things when you're, heck, I don't know, six, seven, eight years old, right? Like, maybe even younger nowadays. And that was not the case for William. And it just mind blows me that this guy started racing as late as he did. He spent the majority of his time racing on eye racing, like online, and has legitimately become one of the best guys and the most talented drivers in the field.

every week at any track. And so that, not that it's like some, you know, juicy, funny story, but that part about William, for me,

has been so cool to botch and also a great lesson and just kind of, there's not one right way. Like, this guy has defined every right way that I thought there would be to do this. And I just think it's really cool. So his perspective on things is totally different.

than mine is, like in our meetings and stuff. But he, I think that different perspective has also made us stronger. And it's also open my eyes to just being open to, you know, looking at things a little differently too. And he's a good dude. Oh, and it is a very fascinating career path that he's kind of had to get into NASCAR. What is something that William does better that people don't realize? He is just so smooth.

with his inputs and and I think that he probably gets some of that from the online stuff that you know he did over the years and and also what I think is really cool that that really has worked in his favor a lot is he didn't know what he didn't know and you know that sounds so so dumb but he had no he had no bad habits right and you know he comes in he ran a couple years in the old generation car he was he was really starting to get going towards the end of that and then we swapped cars and right when that happened it was like right up his alley and and I think a lot of that was because he just he didn't know any different he didn't have a lot he didn't have years and years and years of doing things a certain way that he had bad habits to have to break um and just being

super open-minded I think has you know helped him excel quite a lot so um it's been it's been really cool really fun like I said just super interesting I wish you guys could just see you know the things behind closed doors a little more to understand what I'm exactly what I'm talking about. But yeah, it's been impressive. We'll have to get out there. Got to get out there. And I'm going to be honest. We've done this interview.

I don't even know what people are the drivers, the boys are talking about. Yeah. Oh, you had a crack up. It's like he seemed like he was ready to go the whole time. Yeah. It was really Blinkly 202. Set it off for all of us. Greatest band of all the time.

Got it all done. It was. They saved us. They saved. The blue cheese, Josh Allen. Yep. It started this entire relationship, man. It's absolutely beautiful, dude.

Listen, ball is in your core when it comes to this friendship. You want to make it beggar? You're more than welcome to. We love to do some stuff with you. Oh, you're good. Okay, I thought you said to be off. I did not spill again. I know.

I get nervous. PTSD. You're the man, dude. Everyone's a fan favorite to you. We're fans of you as well. We appreciate you taking the time coming on, even if it's via Zoom, dude, taking the time out of a busy week. Yeah, man.

Well, sorry it hadn't worked out the last couple times we tried to schedule it, but I appreciate you guys having me. It's a pleasure to be. be here and we'd love to do it again. So we'll have to try again sometime. I love it, brother. We'll get in a car. You can show us all the ins and outs. Yeah. Start ripping around a track a couple times. Perfect. And right before you get off, would you just be, would you just want to take the stance that Ryan Blaney, he's a shitty golfer? Like you're the best one of the group? Well, the thing about that is I played enough golf with Ryan Blaney to know that that is not true.

So I he Dude I've played a lot of golf with Ryan And I don't think we have left the golf course One time and he Be paying me I think I think I had been paying him every time we have left the golf course With any wager on any game ever So that

That should tell you all that All that you need to know Okay all right all right shout out Ryan Blaine Shout out Ryan Blaine Great golfer Yeah great golfer Great driver Chase you're the man

Let's get a run in a posture. Chase one more time. Great, great mustache. One last week, like, we just, we can't enroll. Bro, you broke up a little bit. I heard great mustache. No, no matter what, one day we're getting him on this bus. We're getting him on the bus.

We're getting on the bus. Buddy, we appreciate you. Thank you so much for coming on racing with the boys. You're the man. Cool. See you, Bob. Thank you, guys. Have a good day.

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