Bussin' With The Boys - Chase Rice

Episode Date: May 11, 2020

Recorded: April 28, 2020 Multi-platinum country artist and friend of The Boys, Chase Rice, took some time out of his quarantine to drop in on the pod for a chat. In this episode, Chase explains how he went from playing linebacker at the University of North Carolina to working on a NASCAR pit crew to almost winning Survivor, to writing songs with Florida Georgia Line in just 5 years. Other topics include how Chase has changed his approach to social media, why he admires Eric Church, how he likes to make music, and which giant animals he's about to buy for his farm. Finally, Taylor tells an incredible story involving alcohol & bull riding, Chase dishes the FULL story behind his surprise appearance on The Bachelor, and all 3 dudes give their updated takes on the current state of the pandemic. It's another banger! Enjoy. Want to be featured in an episode? Share your questions, feedback, and whatever else using #ForTheBoys / #DontGiva and TAG US @bussinwtb on all platforms. Have a song submission for Pickin' With The Boys? Send an acoustic original to [e-mail] and we might throw it on our platform. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.comFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're in here twice right now. Yeah, why are you on twice? That's the kind of presence I have, Chase. Like a bluebird. block her glasses on, life is good. You look handsome as all hell. Congratulations. Thanks, dude. Yeah, no worries. Just throw my beard out, trying to look like you a little bit. Dude, you don't want this kind of beer. Look at them patches, bro. I look at a pubic hair on my face. You got that number one hit beard, dude. I got that, I got that nine of billiards top 25. I can't

even get on there. I'm 24 right now in my current. Are you really? You were number one for a little bit, weren't you? Yeah, we're a number, it's a new song though. With Lonely if you are, it's number 24. It's climbing though. I mean, it should get there. Hell yeah. I was on you was number one for like two or three weeks. Yeah, you were killing it for a while. I mean, I keep

posted for a while. I'm always checking on your stuff, man. You're killing it out there. Nice, dude. You know, that album drops on May 15th, right? Yeah, the album part two is May 15th. Part one, it's weird. I mean, it's going to be crazy because I, uh, part one, we

dropped. I was in Amsterdam actually the night that it dropped. That wasn't any fun at all. It was the best place in the world to me when you drop an album. I'm dropping every album I'm going to Amsterdam. But then that was our last show of the whole year except

for we did one with Garth in February. And then I've been off. So I dropped part one. Now I'm about to drop part two and we're still off and we're supposed to be off now. But it's like I don't know what's going to happen when I get back, it's, it's going to be crazy because my song's climbing. We got two albums dropping or part one and two of the same album. So it's going to be crazy.

Holy shit. When you, like, as far as like making money, which I know what the whole business is about, but to make a living, how does it work? Is it touring the way you make your money or is when those albums and that, the songs go to number one and stuff like that? What would generate more revenue for you? Yeah, I mean, really it is, for the most part, you just get The most, you get the number ones, whatever, not even number ones. Number ones don't really matter. People don't really know. People think I've got like 10 number ones.

I've only have one number one ever. But if it's high on the charts, that's what really matters. If you get three or four top fives in a row, then all of a sudden the touring, people start paying you more money to go on tour. Your slots deeper in the slide. Then all of a sudden, you're either right before the headliner. You are the headliner right now. I'm the guy right before the headliner.

if it's, you know, 30 to 70,000. If it's, you know, five to eight thousand, it's me. So, yeah, you get more paid more, the more hits you get. And unless you're Eric Church, I think he's only got like six or seven number ones ever, and he's selling out stadiums. So that he's one of the anomalies. I got respect to that, man. Yeah, I got a unit, dude.

Is that one of the dudes you model your music off of? Is that like Eric Church, one of those guys or? What was that all about? I wouldn't say my music because I think our music's real different. But I just, I respect the hell out of him just because of the way he's built it. He hadn't played the game. He's not full of shit. He's just, he's just himself.

He's like, he's himself. And the thing I respect the most, I think, which has been a big thing for me the last three years, I'd say, has been at anybody. There's nothing more important than the music. That's all that matters. You can be popular. You can do the Instagram. you can have all this shit, you know, whatever. But if the music getting there, none of it matters.

And there's no reason to be in it. And that's where I'm focusing on with, like, from eyes on you to the part one, to the album part two. It's like nothing matters more than the music, the songs, and the production. And that's what matters. I think everybody gets lost these days. Or I do anyway. I have anyway.

And social media and how popular we are. No, that shit matters unless music's the best. Yeah, that's part of the game, though. right? That's what you got to do. Like people, you need 100,000 plus followers, you need a million followers, whatever it is. You said you got, you were like stuck in that life or whatever you said. You got caught up in it. How'd you get caught up in it? You just start thinking about, you just start seeing what's in front of you and start thinking

about what's important. Like, what's important? Am I popular here on Twitter? Am I popular here on Instagram? I'm not this and my that. And if you're thinking about that, you're not thinking about the music and that's what really matters. The music is literally all that matters.

as far as I'm concerned. And you can get way more famous and doing all this. You can get the fame without the music being any good at all. But for me personally, if the music sucks, there's no reason to do what I do. Yeah. Well, since you've had, since your music is coming out, like, during this whole quarantine phase.

Like, it's been, like, over a month now. Like, with everything fresh and hot, like, what are you doing now that you're not, you're probably supposed to be on tour? You're probably supposed to do a bunch of stuff to kind of rev this album up. what are you doing now? Like, what's the, what's the pivot during the time like this?

Drinking. It's, my thing with creativity, for me anyways, I can't force it. If I get on a Zoom call and we're trying to write a song, I don't care about that. I don't want to do it. It's not my thing. I'd rather get in the room, feel the energy, whatever you want to call that, and write a song in person. Right now, I've toured for seven years. So this is like a man, I had a couple months off anyway.

And then we were supposed to be on, you know, a month ago we were supposed to start. And now I can't, you know, I can't do anything because we're not allowed to. So I'm like, all right, I'm not going to try to force anything. They're going to make me take a break. I'm going to have no problem with that because, like I said, a tour for seven years. So I'm chilling. Any idea I get, though, I'm just writing in my phone and I'm saving it. Because at some point, it's all going to break loose.

We're going to be back on tour. I'm going to start writing like crazy again. and all these ideas that I'm, you know, writing down during quarantine are going to be written. When do you think it'll all end? I don't know because I think half the people are idiots and I think half the people are smart. I don't know. I think we're getting so much bullshit information and then we're also getting right information, but how do you figure out which one's which?

Because we're getting so much information from so many different people who have agendas. Like, why can't we just get some information that's true without you telling me, without it being political or this or that? Just give me the real facts, and I don't think we're getting that for the most part. I don't think it'd be a problem to go back on tour right now. Personally, if they let me, I would do it. I'm going to play to as many people who will show up. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, we're all grown-ass adults,

and it's our decision whether we want to leave our house or not. Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said about that. Like, if you want to leave your house, it's fine. I think here's a deal and this is the most un-American thing I'll ever say in my entire life and I'm not saying this is my belief I'm just saying hindsight's 2020

like this fucking thing has gotten totally out of hand the numbers are skyrocketing the economy's getting absolutely blasted I'm 29 years old don't know shit so just take this to the grand assault if we would have met back

if we would have met back in February and Trump or his crew whatever I don't care what people think about whoever Like if he would have just said, hey, listen, we're taking a, we're taking a page out of China's book right now. Okay, two weeks, no one do fucking anything. You're not doing nothing. All right, lock it down.

Hazmat suits. We'll deliver food to certain areas. We'll have scheduled times people to pick it up. Two weeks. This whole thing would have never been to become the issue. It was the problem is, is we're dipping our toe into this quarantine and then we're coming out of it. And then we're going back into it. And then everyone's kind of like half in quarantine, half not in quarantine.

It's like, you guys. got to pick one, you got to stick with it for a second, and then you got to figure it out. But I agree with your sense of like, hey, you're a grown-out's adult. You do what you want. You know, personal philosophy on my dick you want. But if you want to get rid of this shit, you got to lock everybody up for two weeks, man. There's starting where you're going to do it. How do you kill a virus?

Yeah. I don't think people get it. I don't think it's possible to kill it, though. That's the thing. And we're not going to ever kill this thing. We're just going to learn to live with it. And some people won't live with it. Some people will die.

Yeah, but we did smallpox. Smallpox was a virus that we killed that's basically extinct. Now, I believe it's smallpox, was it? I don't know enough about the history of any of it. I just know for me, I'm not allowed to do anything right now, so I'm not. As soon as they let me do something and I tour, my ass is touring. I'm not going to, it's going to be people's decision where they want to come to my show or not. That's not up to me to tell people to stay home.

It's not up to me to tell people to go out and do whatever they want. I'm in a tour. And like I said, I think my biggest problem with it all is just the lack of consistency and any of the information that we're getting. Yeah, I agree. The hell's wrong with y'all. If this is really that big of a deal and this many people are dying, fuck your agenda and give us the facts.

That's all that matters. Right. It's just interesting because we're in an election year too, so you just never know what game is being played at all times. Exactly. And whether you're a Republican or Democrat, which one's lying? I'm sure both of them probably. Right.

They both line, yeah. They both line. No question about that. I don't think any of that shit. It's so ridiculous. Both of them. Both them are ridiculous. Republicans, if you're listening, you're ridiculous.

Democrats, if you're listening, you're ridiculous, dude. It's just crazy. It's crazy how everyone's such a strong opinion about fucking everything, dude. Everyone's, everyone's like, everyone has the answer. It's so hilarious that everyone's at the answer, but there's nothing happening. And you're right. That's the dumbest part is, just, hey, y'all, let's meet in the middle. us have a conversation about it.

Like, because half the time, like you said, everybody has the answer. No, you don't have, no, you all know, nobody's shit. Right. And the thing,

too, the thing that's crazy to me is. Have conversations and talk about it. The thing that's crazy to me is, as you look at people having these political fights with each other, like these, like right, right-wing people are these fucking leftist assholes,

blah, blah. And then the leftist people, those right-wing conservative dicks and they're all getting after it. But y'all are just complaining about each other. Like, let's fix what's going on. Let's have a conversation about it. about it.

Let's just talk about it, dude. Let's just talk about it. Ignorant is a beautiful thing because I think everybody to a certain extent has it. I tell will this all the time. If you meet somebody that has all the answers in politics, they're the biggest foolish of people you ever met. Because they know that they're all of an answer. I mean,

I know for me anything in life, anything that's ever happened to me in life that I got good at or that I got great at, it was because I looked at myself in the mirror and I sucked at it at first and I figured out how to not suck at it. You face yourself, you face yourself and the truth of it, like football, whatever. You and I played college ball in Carolina. The reason, the big part that I never became a great pass rusher

because it was because I was like, no, I can fix my game here. I can be better in my game on the past defense or this, whatever. It's like, yeah, you might get better to those, but you're never going to be a good pass rusher because you won't practice it. You won't admit, hey, I suck at this. I got to get better. Same thing with anything in life. Just face it, man.

Same thing with music for me. It was like, even right now, I think I'm putting out the best music I've ever put out my life, but I'm not close to happy with it. I'm like, nope, got to get better. I heard the other day on the Outsiders album from church.

He's just flat out better. The production's that much better. The way they wrote the song is that much better. All right, I got to step my shit up. Yeah, yeah, that's a great album. How'd you like playing North Carolina? Let's dive into the North Carolina day since we said you brought it up as a Phil of football player.

Yeah, that's Zach Brown connection, huh? Yeah, that's Zach Brown. Hey, Taylor, hey, Taylor, you play with Zach Brown too, right? Yeah, I did. Hey, we all have that connection, dude. I got to hear, I want to hear this. He's just a beauty, man. Dude, that guy is all-time human being.

Like, I'll tell you what, like, listen to Zach Brown and talk to the media is like listening to people argue about politics. It don't make sense. It doesn't make sense, though. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't, bro. It's crazy. But the thing, like, Zach, he's so funny, dude, and he's so athletic. Oh, they're free.

So, he was my backup when I was a jrude. Absolutely freak, dude. So he was my backup when I was a jigger and senior. Solid flex. Solid flex. Yeah. Are you there right? Step back, Zach.

No, he was my backup because he just wasn't there yet. I mean, he was a freshman. And it might have only been one year. I can't remember. But he was, we'll take two. We'll take you. He was such a freak guy. I mean, he ran like a 4-3, but he didn't know what the hell he was doing.

And to his defense, like I said, he was a freshman. So he was as dumb as most freshmen are. And, but, yeah, he made up for everything with his freak, absolute freak athletic ability. I mean, the guy could, he wouldn't have any technique rushing the passer, but he would just run around you and second quarterback. Dude, it's insane. It's insane. It's insane the ability that dude has.

And you just, you just listen to my man. and you're just like, you know, how does it fucking play at this level? That's how freakish he is. That's how freakish he is. I can't speak to anything past Carolina, but playbook-wise, he didn't know what he was doing when we were young. He might have came along to Carolina. I don't even know.

I don't know. But you'll have more experience with that. My fiancé, Taylor Charo, went to high school with him, and they just said, like, in the playbook, because he played offense. They would just say, like, you know, just give the ball to Zag, go right, go left. And just let that dude be a monster, dude.

I swear to God. He won like the 60, didn't he? Nationally in North Carolina? I'm sure. Yeah, probably. Probably. Dude's insane, man. Tarhill's got them freaks out there, dude.

They got musical freaks. They got whatever Zach is. I don't, shit. That's crazy. That dude, there's a damn Marson out here, bro. He's just funny, dude. He's so funny. He's east of west speed.

I mean, Craig, if I'm wrong, boys, you guys both play defense. You don't got to be smart to play defense. It's got to be reactive. You're out there in the trenches. There he goes. Yeah, I know. Here he fucking goes, dude. I'm just saying, you got to be, as an offense alignment, you have to be intellectual.

You have to handle a conversation. You have to break things down, dude, fronts with D-Lyman at C-ball, get-ball. Dude, you guys, linebackers, you guys are the biggest dummies we know. No, no, dude. Linebacker is so much more complex than a freaking old lineman, dude. Tell it to Zach Brackers. down, dude. Tell it to all pro Zach Brown. I'll tell you. You just got to let

Zach Brown go, dude. If he's blitzing on a player, you're not supposed to be blitzing on. He makes that playing in the backfield. You just, you pat him on the head and say, fuck yeah, Zach. Here's the thing I know about defense. Here's the thing I know about defense. I've had, I've been on really good defenses and really bad defenses. I will say

the really bad defenses, our playbook was about that thick. The really, really good defenses that I was on, it was about that thick. It was like, y'all just go play ball. that's right no doubt don't act like you guys got this tell that to bill bellichick tell that to bill

bellichick though and he's probably got one this thick and he's still like right right right right that's just different but bill bellichick's got like guys like van noi who's you know one of those limited athletically smart guys you know what I'm saying he has a lot of smart shout out van noi shit hey shout out guys like

guys like me guys like that yeah shout out the limited athletic smart guys, dude. I don't like that round, but I got it. Oh, man. Hey, we can all, we can't all be first rounders. Nope. Yeah, we can. Yeah, you can.

Hard work and dedication, boys. When, hey, when Chase is talking about looking himself in the mirror, when you talk about looking himself in the mirror, it says, I suck at this. I looked at myself in the mirror and said, you fucking suck at this, but I get it. But I did it, Chase. You know what I'm saying? How tall are you? What's your weight?

And what did you run? 6, 7, 310, 14% body fat, and I run a 4-48. You don't run a 4-48, dude. I said I ran a 4-8. I must have glitched. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah. That probably didn't have any of it either.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Hey, Will spout enough about how he ran a 4-5. No, I did. Hey, hey, undrafted, straight, try-hard, bro. Willed myself to a 4-5. That's crazy. See, me, I just decided. I was like, you know what, they probably want to draft me top three rounds.

I'm going to not do as well my senior year as in I'm not going to play it all because I'm going to be hurt. Because I know that in 10 years, all my buddies are going to be retiring and hurting, and I'm going to go sell out stadium. So that was actually me just being real smart. Play the long game. You play the long game out here, stud. I got music exchange. It don't say Chicago Sports Exchange.

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The football thing didn't play, didn't I literally got hurt my junior year, missed the entire year. Like that was my breakout year. I was supposed to be a stud. It didn't happen. And so you were, before you get in your story, you were trying to, you were had dreams of like NFL and stuff and injuries kind of hindered that.

Yeah, 100%. And I was becoming, I mean, I was becoming a good enough player. There's a lot of stuff that has to go your way. A lot of different things have to happen. But I was, I'll never know, but it could have happened. A lot of guys that, like I said. Before you go any further, there are, there are those guys out there that say, I could have been this, I could have been that.

So you were saying legit, you had a shot for real. Like you were, you were. I legit, yeah, 100%. All right. He seems like a realist. He seems like a realist. He doesn't seem like a bullshit. I get it.

Yeah. If I wasn't good enough, I would just be like, no, I suck. But if, you know, I had a shot. Yeah. I mean, a lot of guys that backed me up played in the league. They're in the league at a high level. Torils. So after college, you went to Survivor?

No, then I went to NASCAR. An old coach who had left Carolina, went and coached the Dolphins and left the dolphins and got to Hendon Motorsports. He, they hired him. to bring in ex-athletes to be pit crew members. So they brought me in. I was part of like 11 guys. We worked, we were real bad for a couple months

because we had no idea what we were doing. We trained. By the end of the year, we were up on squads. We won two championships with Jimmy Johnson. And I was a jackman and a rear tire carrier. So all I was doing that, it was an awesome job. But I was pretty miserable because I was living in a hotel, you know, it wasn't a permanent thing.

It could have been, but I wasn't all in. And then that's when Survivor called and I was like, man, this isn't, I'd never even watch the show, but it's a cool opportunity for me. Get out of this job, go to that, go do that, and just maybe make some money. I couldn't win a million bucks. I hate interrupting you like that, but you just, you hit a lot of information there. So you're ripping that jackhammer and tearing tires and NASCAR for Jimmy Johnson, and just rep it.

How do you? Hey, they get paid well too. Pit crew dudes get paid well. I get paid well, yeah. And Survivors like, who do, who's, who are they out there looking in the stands? Like, who we got out of here? Oh, who's that guy?

Who's that handsome motherfucker with the tire? Maybe he'd be good on Survivor. But how did you get that call? Like, hit me with that. So I had a, they got recruiters, I guess. I'm not real sure how that part works, but I had a girl that I played, or they played volleyball at Carolina.

same time I played football, she texted me out of nowhere. She said, hey, would you want to be on Survivor? And I was like, sure, why not? That was my response. I was like, this is the dumbest text I ever got. It's never going to happen. So, end up going through the recruiting process. So what she did, she knew one of the recruiters that was looking for the country guy. So I was like, all right, I'll go through this.

I half asked the whole thing. Like, you fill out all this paperwork, you fill this out, you have to send in a video. I didn't give a shit because I didn't. I didn't know the show. I didn't care whether it really got on or not, but I was like, if this happens, that's a cool thing to do, first of all, second of all,

I could win a million bucks. So I went through it and I got on. But how'd you do? So I got on, I guess I got second. You got second? Yeah, dude, I was not, like it's a strategic game.

I was terrible. I'm the worst survivor player of all time. Damn. I never want to show. How did you get voted on. You got so close. though, were you pretty pissed off that you didn't get that million? And technically, I should have won.

So it's nine. I think there were nine people in the jury that year, which if you know anything about it, the people you vote off or who votes to win, so you can't piss too many of them off. And then, so I lost five to four, but right, as we're going to break, Jeff on the live show. It was like, yeah, new rule change next year. Anybody that quits the season is not allowed to be on the jury, which I agree with. quit. You should be sent for fuck home and you should be done. And two of the girls

that on my season were quit, and they were on the jury, and they voted for the other guy. So technically on the new rules, I won four to three, but... Hey, hey, Survivor, if you're listening, you know this man a million bucks, dude. A million bones. He said technically I want new rules.

You know how it is. New rules? Not a big deal. I got at least have, what, 600K in there? Because after taxes and all that? Yeah. That would have been nice. So when I got done with that, and I went on that as a NASCAR picker worker, even though I was starting to write songs and stuff in 2010, I did not want to be that guy that goes on with the guitar.

He's like, hey, listen to me, sit around the fire and you know how you've seen it. You would have got me. I would have been all ears, dude. You could have got my. You'd say, look at me out of bed. I'll say, even though I was on there as a NASCAR, you know, even though I was on there as a NASCAR, car picker worker when I moved to Nashville. So I got done with the show.

Overall, when I moved to Nashville, it did hurt me that I was on that show. Anyway, I'll tell you in a second. So I got home, you know, went back to NASCAR. They were like, dude, you can't do the job. I was 38 pounds lighter. So I take my, so I go to Nashville for the second time ever. first time I ever went was like a few months before, six months before I got in a fight with one of my crew members, so they suspended me for two weeks. So I came to Nashville to visit Brian from Florida, Georgia Line.

We've been buddies just grew up together. And I was hanging out in their house. That's when I fell in love in Nashville. And then when I came back the second time after Survivor, I was coming to visit for a couple of days. And I was going to go work back at NASCAR. And by the first night that I came to visit, we were drunk at Tin Roof. And we just started talking. He had a room available in his house.

He was like, dude, just move. Just do it. Just move here. And let's start writing songs more. They were already doing it. They weren't technically Florida Georgia line yet. They were just kind of him and Tyler were writing a bunch of songs. So we started writing a bunch of songs.

I was back in 2011 and fall of 2010. And then like a year and a half later, we wrote Cruz. So I kind of lucked into. to a great situation with Brian and Tyler meeting each other, them becoming Florida Georgia line, and then me sliding in and, you know,

I start writing a bunch of songs together. Damn, and that's how this is all came about, my bad, Taylor. No, you're good, dude. It's part of the Zoom, bro. We're just going to each other all the time. That's how this whole thing works out.

Chase, when we, when this whole thing ends, you had to come on the bus for real, so we'll have a real podcast. Now, we'll do a real one for sure. Yeah, for real. You out at your farmer? right now? Yeah, I'm on my farm. Dude, I'm looking out over,

you need to come to the farm, by the way, guys. Well, hey, I'll tell you what. Hey, we're down. Hang on, hang on, hang on, before we go any farther. We've been having some time. The boys, the boys, we've had history. Taylor, when we first started,

the den, when it was called the Den podcast and not busts with the boys. Yeah. When we were first starting thinking of names and this and that, I had actually DM Chase. He DM back, responded, talking about, yeah, that'd be great, yada, yada, I don't know if you remember.

Yeah, yeah. And then, I know we've reached out to you a couple times. And we kind of, you know, you're the man. You are the man. But we kind of got, hey, everybody wants a piece of the boy, but you got to get in line now. I was on tour.

That's the greatest part about now is like, I'm not on tour. So I'm like, yeah, whatever. Let's do whatever. But yeah, when I'm on tour, it was like they kept asking me about weekdays or whatever. I was like, guys, I need a couple days off here. Yeah, yeah, no, we feel you for sure. We just had to bring that up because we've tried. Yeah.

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free to play NASCAR predictor game and again every single race you get a chance to win 25,000 um but again hey shout out Clint Boyer and shout out him because he's one of the boys and he's for the boys no what we were just talking about oh yeah my farm i uh so i'm watching i got my my guy daniel here and chester's my farm manager but daniel's out here doing fences we're doing half of my big field right here it's about 20 acres we're doing i think 10 of them in in fencing it, and I'm going to put bison in. So about three or four weeks, I'm going to have bison roaming my feet. Fucking sick, dude.

We should try to ride those bison. 100%. Do you think after midnight one night? We're not going to be like, yeah, let's go do it. Let's do it. Hey, do remember when you brought a bison? Let's go ride their things. Hey, I'm bad.

It's getting dangerous out of here. There's a place in Arizona where I'm from, K-Skrieg, Arizona. It's called the Buffalo chip. If you go on Friday night before like 9 p.m., you sign a waiver, $50, you can actually go ride a real bull. And so, like, my boys and I, whenever I go home, you go sit there and watch people absolutely get fucked by these animals. For 50 bucks.

Like a professional bull riding bowl or like a bison ball? We're talking like a bull. Like horns, snorting, balls still attached to the cow. 50 bucks? Things 50 bones, dude. I sign here. You can't sue us. And then we all sit there.

We got, we're just crushing bun lights watching people get wrecked. And it's like NASCAR on steroids. Because you're watching dudes like that, they get there at six or seven, half a couple brews, getting a little, get a little tipsy. They're about 50, 40 pounds overweight. And they think to themselves, I'm a goddamn superhero. They go up there, they sign up. And it's over, dude. It is over.

It's crazy. It's wild. I had a buddy actually do it. He rode a couple times, and he was like a skinnier guy. Tanner Tick Nimi, shout at Tanner Tick Nimi. He like bought chaps, bought a cowboy hat from Scottsdale. Oh, you got to dress up, of course. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, you got to dress apart. And he comes over, and I'm pretty inebriated. It's after my rookie year, so I'm getting after it pretty good. And he's like, he rode, lands on his leg all weird, tears everything. Like ACL, MCL, PCL, and like jogs off. There's a bull, so he's like running off, like, scared, scared of shit. And he's like, tear on my knee, blah, blah. And I'm like, hammered, like, let me check you out.

I've seen, like, he was in my head. I'm like, yeah, I've seen people check knees before in football. I can check this guy out. And so I, like, grab him by, like, the calf and, like, we're like the quad. And I start doing the ACL check. Where were you trying to adjust them? Yeah, you do the adjusting. And I'm like, nah, dude, it's all there.

I can feel it clicking. You're all good. What are you even feeling? for you. You see them do it, but you don't know what they're doing. Yeah. If you lift up, I'm using my other hand to hold up my phone. But if you lift up on the calf, you can feel like a clicking

and if it holds, that means the ACL is still attached to the water near whatever. So on my head of like, I'm going to drunk, so I'm like, I'm like yanking the shit out of this thing. Like, yeah, you're all right. You're probably right. He probably didn't.

It's by a head on by a threat. I'm just like, yeah, dude, you're good. And he's like, He's like, ah, he's like kind of screaming. I'm like, you're fine, dude, you're good. I think you're solid. I don't think you need to go to hospital. Goes to the hospital, like Tibb, Fib, Fracture, ACL torn, PCL torn, everything's done.

Calls me the next day. I'm like at the worst hangover ever. And he's like, hey, remember when you said I was fine? I was like, no. But what are you talking about? Because you checked my knee last night. And he's like, I've tore everything. Like, it's basically hanging on my skin.

I have to get, to this day, it's been like five years. He still has, like, knee problems. Like, he can't bend. Oh, yeah. Riding a bowl? Dude, I've gotten to the point now. I've got the point now. If I, like, I got a creak or something.

I can't do anything anymore without, like, picking up my bag wrong. I'm like, oh, my shoulder. It's brutal. And you're old, dude. How old are you? 34. It's bad. So I got PRP injected into both shoulders like two weeks ago.

Injected into my right hip. My right arm, I can't raise right. now at all like higher than that because of this injection like is that going to go away yeah that'll go away eventually PRP is a little different brutal so for people who don't know what PRP is you take the what plasma rich blood cells that's a plasma rich plasma plate lit what a plate rich plasma they pull it out of your like your they pull your blood and they spin it in this machine and they inject it into the area that hurts the problem like I've had it done a couple times and dude I got done on my elbow and then my foot and like they did it everything felt fine i'm walking back to my car

i literally like i had like crawl ended up crawling all the way there like i couldn't walk like four days it's like having surgery dude yeah i didn't realize that so my left shoulder i'm good to go now pretty good my right hip i'm pretty good to go but my right this must be worse than the other ones or something so i have my labrums are torn in both shoulders so they but you got what are do it out there in the farm, the Victoria shit? Hey, man. Like I said, I was a, I was a workhorse out there. Hey, them old, them old war injuries, dude. Hey, no, but I thought they were going to inject the back where it hurts.

And they're like, no, that's not how it works. We're going into the joint. Like, okay, cool. And they said, they didn't touch the back of my shoulder. They just shot it in right here, went all the way in, just injected in the joint, pulled out. I'm like, okay, that feels a little weird. That was two weeks of year, and I still can't raise because of the back.

So I don't know what's going on in there, but it's got to get better. You got to go see a doctor, bud. It's been two weeks. You can't have to be honest. You need to go see a doctor. Yeah, you guys might want to, you guys. You might want to hook me out with one of your good guys. I know, I know.

That's what I'm already, we're probably thinking our head, like, okay, who could we have them go see right now? Because that shit ain't right. I feel like they snip something wrong, and now it's not even connected or something. I don't know how it hurts. Yeah, that's just a tragedy.

That's a shit that worries me so much about football. I was like when I'm done playing, like there's a lot of, there's a lot of tread left on these tires. Don't get me wrong, but like when that tread wears out, man, like what's it going to be like when I'm 40, you know, or 34, you know, that's like 10 years from that for me. I mean, the last like three years, the last three years is when it really kicked in for me. But I mean, like, I would pop both shoulders out once a week,

tore my, perinald tendon to my ankle, tore my labor on my right hip. Like the doctor was like, man, you're going to need, we're going to probably replace that hip here in the next, you know, six, seven years. I'm like, guys, I'm not a fuck out of here. Hey, yo, that's a good, hip replacement. So I don't. Jamming on the stage. Laborums or something. But I don't know because I feel like my best buddy Garrett from college.

He's an offensive line and played in the league, I think, 10 years. And he can't hardly walk upstairs. But then I got other buddies that are 60 years old that played in the league forever. And they're like, no, I'm good to go. And they still work out a lot. Like, how are you like that? I'm good to go. I think the thing is, I really believe this.

Like, the minute you stop playing sports and you stop working out or like stop doing physical shit, your body is like just goes to shit. It does. Because when I like, when the season ends for me, I'm like kind of like, my body is so callous. That's like, okay, like we've been through car accidents. Like this shit's, it is what it is. And then like, you know, February comes and start working out again. and it's like my body's like

it feels way worse than it did ever in the season and then like March and April and everything's kind of back to normal it's so weird but like I think if you take too much time off I'll never I'll never stop working out like I got to like when I'm done playing dude this I know this looks pretty good

to you right now but when this when we retire 265 and I'm not going to stop working out that's what Garrett said bicep pulling your fucking bison Dude, that's what Garrett, my buddy Garrett said. He, I think I talked to him a couple weeks ago on the phone.

He was, I saw a picture of him at a wedding, and he's just kind of been, you know, I think he's like 365 right now. Come on. Oh, bro. Oh, damn. You, Taylor, if you got 365, bro? I don't think you can, though. I don't think your legs can take on that.

But he always said he's going to get shredded. Granted, he's in a job. He's in a job. He runs a bar down in Atlanta. He's in a job where he's doing, he's hustling. He's doing all that work. He's always at his work. I think he's about to get out of that,

get the hell. Literally, because his body, I think he's getting out of that so he can start eating healthy, stop being around a damn bar all the time and get his life together, like physically. I mean, football players, your body hurts way worse. It's great. Whoa, dude, my body hurts just sitting down right now.

Yeah, I'm like getting my posture right. That's what I'm saying. Me too. A couple weeks ago, I got this box of clothing from this company called Freefly. Their clothing is made from Butter Soft Bamboo, and I'm not fucking kidding you, it is Buttersoft. I actually was over at Taylor's house the other day. We were playing Spikeball, brought his gear that people have sent us through him. I was like, yo, you got to check out this Free Fly stuff through him the shirt.

I'm like, feel this. Grabbed he looks at me. And I'm telling you, softest shit. the softest material I've ever felt. I'm using it for lounging around the house, workouts. You know, I'll probably use it on the golf course. You can use it anywhere. I'm sitting here trying to talk about all these situations.

You can use it. You can use it fucking anywhere. My favorite items so far have been, like, anything wearing on the top. Their shorts, super comfortable, but that's butter softness that I'm talking about is their long-sleevee, their T-shirt and their little, like, one of those, like, long-sleeveeat, like thin hoodies, but they're like, you know that little material. I don't know how to fucking explain it. Either way, you got to try this shit out.

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Now back to the banger episode with Chase Rice. And I can't wait for you guys to hear the bachelor, his bachelor story, dude. It's the best one. But back to the pod. Hey, what bar in Atlanta? Big Sky? No, it's called Fetch. Fetch.

It's a new play. It's a dog bar. These are going to start. I'm sure they're going to be doing crazy. Um, but yeah, it's like, uh, um, people take their dogs there and they're specialized and like, for the dogs for people to go after happy hours, whatever. and dogs and all that. So dogs are, people with dogs are, y'all have dogs?

Yeah, I got a little English bulldog. I don't, what I don't understand about people with dogs are the ones that think they're humans. Like, y'all, it's still a dog. Yeah, I get that, but also, like, yeah, but I love my dog. Dogs are not people, guys. Hey, no doubt. No, you are right about that for sure.

You're 100%. But at least you can admit you're good. Most dogs are psychopaths. But hey, at least she own. Hey, my dog, literally if you met my dog, Akira, she's like, like the biggest bitch you've ever met in your entire life, dude. She's just like, come over to you, not take any pets. Pets are like pickles on a sandwich, dude, take him or leave him.

Does not whatever. It's whatever to her. Judges you, stares you right in your eyes. So you're saying she's a human. You're saying she's human. I'm saying she's human. I'm saying Chase is wrong, dude. I'm saying you're wrong.

Dogs are people too, huh? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just could be coming from a very deep place of jealousy down in my heart because I travel 240 days a year or something like that. And I want a dog so bad. And I'm just like, I'm not doing that. They're good old boy. They just mess with their.

Oh, I just want one that's just like I can wrestle with and then she'll calm down and cuddle me and all that. I love her. And you'll be like, hey, go to your kennel. Though she'll go to the kennel or he'll go to the kennel and she'll kind of have the sad face and you'll be like, all right, come climbing the bag. Come climbing. Yeah, one of my buddies, one of my buddies that I've been hanging with through this whole deal.

He's got a dog named Nipsey. It's the exact same dog as, uh, as chance from Homeward Bound. Oh, yeah, really? He gets the spikes to the face from the porcupine. Like, same exact dog. It's just like it, but this dog is the best, man. Like, I mean, he's just like, he'll do whatever you want. He just, he's puppy too.

He's like a year and a year and a half old. Like one night, no names are going to be thrown out here. But somebody was a little too drunk to find their way. the couch or the bedroom and the kitchen floor seemed like a great idea to sleep just right on the kitchen floor right by the sink good thing is by the kitchen floor there's a cowhide right there and so the cowhide got wrapped around this particular person and they slept the entire night on the cowhide on the kitchen floor and that dog didn't leave his side and the dog was actually a pillow for that for that evening so oh my god that's a good boy that's a good dog that's a great dog that's a great

dog. And that man's his name was Chase Rice, dude. That's unbelievable. That's a great story. It's beautiful. That's absolutely beautiful. We're in quarantine. You got to do, make shit up during quarantine. Hey, no doubt. I tell you, everyone needs an animal. I'll tell you, hey, don't sleep on a cat now, Chase.

I'll tell you, I was never a cat. Dude, I don't disrespect. I'll say, hey, no. Listen, just stop. Just stop. No disrespect to spook, dude. You know, I'm a fan of spook, especially. but dude outside of spook and kind of spook fuck cats dude i don't like i don't like cats one bit

they're pompous their assholes my wife i'm not a cat guy i'm not a cat guy i call my you know what you know what's weird about cats every cat well not every cat owner but the i've talked to a few that are like oh no no no you'll love my cat you'll love my cat it's like a dog i'm like why don't you have a dog right right hey hey chase you'll love my cat it's like a dog bro. No. Exactly. Yeah.

I got a dog too, bro. I just love animals. What can I say? I'll tell you the weirdest people are the people that own snakes. If you own a snake or a bird, you'll fuck yourself. No, no. Snakes are weird. I hate snakes, period.

I can't. What about people that own bison, though? Those people will rip. If they're in the house, you know, that's kind of weird. But out of the field, Roman? I don't want it out of my house. Chester, like, this is such a good day. It's so nice out Chester.

or my farm manager driving the Bronco around, like trying to get more posts in the ground. I'm going to have bison out here at no time. You make good. Have you been, like, hanging out with anybody? You've been pretty quarantined. You live by yourself, right? Yeah, I live by myself, but, like, I was telling a little earlier,

like, I got, uh, what I got, I got two buddies that consistently, I've just been hanging with. They're good dudes. Like, they're single dudes. We're having a good time. Yeah, yeah. Hey, nothing like three single guys in a farm together getting drunk, seeing what happens. With an album dropping, getting the number one on the charts, baby. Let's go.

I'm going to leave it to that. I'll let you all decide what else happened. But, no, but they're good dudes. And one of them has a place downtown. So we just switched back from his place to my place. And it's been the best. Dude, I've had the best time. I can't even lie. I've had the best time.

We've had farm parties. There's literally three more bars in my house and on my property that didn't exist before quarantine. We make bars up. We built bars. That's awesome. I love that, man. You say you got 20 acres, too? I got 152, but the field right here is 20 that we put in the place in it.

Hey, you need to tell me, how, like, where you got that land at? Because I want to be neighbors, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, I got you, dude. I'll text you my exact address when that's the same thing. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude, I love it. The thing I wanted to ask you about, and I know Will talked about, you did, you did say you were going to do our podcast before and you didn't do our podcast before, but then, you know, whatever you did bail, then you did bail, now you're back on it, so it's all good. I will say, so let me paint you a picture.

I'm laying in bed. My gorgeous recently pregnant wife is laying next to me, and I'm watching The Bachelor. Wait, wait, wait, wait, here's out. I know you know why, because I texted you. your ass and you never texted my ass back. So I'm sitting there. And that girl, I don't even know her name, dude. All I know is she caused a lot of fucking issues

on that damn show. Pete, or whatever his name is, God bless Pete, because Pete's a pilot and I fucking love aviation. I think it's the coolest shit ever. And I'm watching this day. I'm like, damn, dude, they're going to, and I love roller coasters. And they go to that place in Ohio. What's it called, Cedar Point?

Cedar Point. And, yeah, and Pete or whatever, he's like, yeah, we're going to see the point. We're going to rip some roller coasters. I'm like, yeah, this is a great date, dude. This girl doesn't know what the kind of guy he has. She has. And he's like, and I got a little surprise for her.

Got a little country concert, individual country concert for us. And sure enough, bearded, number one recent song on there, fucking Chase Rice is about to play. And this girl starts having an absolute mental breakdown, bro, about how, like, they used to date or something used to go on. And Pete's there having the type. I remember his life, dude, dancing his little ass off, loving it.

And she's sitting there big, her eyes are this big right now, just staring you up. And I can't tell, I can't tell if the producers did this, but it looked like you were giving her that look like, hey, we got your ass. I don't know what happened.

Or if you're asking us from the question, Taylor. Hey, I'm going to get there, Will. We got all the time on this podcast, man. We finally got it. Hey, we got them. I'm like watching an extra on this, on Bachelor right now,

like ready for the next episode. So she says, you guys, she says you guys used to date. Now, I don't know about that. I get on my phone. I'm like, hey, I pull up, Chase, text you. Hey, man. Like, I'm watching The Bachelor. What's the deal with this thing? Day goes by. Two days go by. Three weeks go by. But, but I also saw that like, you were, you got on my People magazine. You were like, I don't want to deal with this drama. I don't want to be putting this drama kind of stuff. That's the type of dude you are. Like, you're trying to, you're not trying to be famous for the wrong reasons, which I respect.

the shit out of. So I showed up. Um, so her and I, I'm not going to go to her and I, because that's, she, that's her business too, and I don't want to throw her under the bus. Um, but she, we talked for a while, um, you know, through the fall. It was, yeah, about through the fall, just texting and stuff. Um, she came to a show, hung out. Every time I've hung out with her, she was a cool chick. You had a great time. Um, but, yeah. But, yeah. I mean, we weren't dating or anything like that. And I know she's going on the show. So I'm like, oh, that's cool.

That'd be fun as hell. You know, you'll probably meet a bunch of friends. You know, just typical whatever conversation. You know, have fun. That's a cool, cool experience. I had a lot of fun on a survivor. You know, it's a once-a-lifetime thing. She does it.

About a week and a half after she leaves, I get a text for her. I get a call from my publicist and my manager saying, hey, we know you really want to. to go do this pub shows is what I was doing at the time and I was going to do on a he's not here at my favorite bar in chapel hill and they said but the day that this lands on they want to shoot for you to do survive or for you to do the bachelor um so I'm like well it's a no-brainer we'll get eyes on her the eyes on you and longly if you are we'll get them both on there play them that's that's going to be big promotion let's go do it but then I was like but wait a minute

is it for the one that's that they're filming right now and they're like yeah yeah it'll be like literally in two or three weeks that you go shoot this. I was like, go, that's, it was taking up that date that, for me, he's not here, where I was trying to play. I'm like, oh, shit, okay. So, but it is for the one that, okay, yeah, okay. Y'all, I know somebody on the show, is that going to be a problem? Like, there's no way they would actually put me on the date with her, like somehow,

screw me in that. And they both agree. They said, no, I don't think they'd do that. They've never done it before. Damn. Oh, yeah. How stupid were we? I mean, I wasn't going to say it, but you got to go.

High Facts 20-20, you got to feel like dumb. Like, man, of course they were going to do that shit. The thing is, like, they've never done that to a guest on the show, though. Like, I was their guest coming on, and they've never involved in anybody like that without telling me ahead of time. So we get to Cedar Point that day. The week or two, you know, leading up to him, I was actually my trainer, his wife is real involved with the spoilers. She's trying to figure out. She's still, every week she'd come in.

She's like, she's still on. I'm like, all right, that's fine. You know, that's just a coincidence. Oh, no. And so I get to see her point that day. We actually end up asking. I remember my day-to-day was right there. He asked one of the producers.

He said, what's the name of the girl on the date today? You know, just kind of checking up. They said, oh, our name's Victoria. And as soon as he just starts to die laughing, it looks at him he just die laughing. I'm like, oh, you know. Oh, man. Cut your ass. Cut your eyes, dude.

But then there were still two victorious. So I'm like, Right, right. Maybe at this point you're just like, that's happening. It's about that. Yeah. And it's 50, 50.

That's a coin flip. Yeah. But then about an hour, 45 minutes before I go on to the show, like I'm in my clothes, ready to go play to these people. My trainer's wife calls FaceTime. And she's like, hey guys, it's going to happen. The other Victoria, I just found out she was already on the one-on-one date,

so there's only one-on-victory left that hasn't been on the one-on-one date. I was like, all right, here we go. Go on. She turns a corner. I just started laughing. I'm like, okay, now it happened. But in my mind, I'm like, I don't know what's, at the end of the day, to be honest with, who gives a shit?

She hung out with a guy. She hung out. In my mind, I don't know how she's going to react. because I didn't have the opportunity to tell her before, obviously, that she was already on the show. Right, because they don't have their phones or whatever. So I don't know how she's going to react. I don't know if she's going to play it cool.

All right, just leave it alone and I'll go back on the bus because it's really none of his business at the end of the day. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know if the producers convinced her to tell to react how she did. I don't, because if you think about it in the reality of the situation, okay that's a little weird yeah I know him he's up there singing but she don't have to say shit and it's none of it I mean he's literally currently dating 13 other girls while why why are you

gonna have to confess to him that you knew the guy that you were just singing to right and crying at dinner that anyways I mean that's just I have nothing to do with that that's yeah yeah um and so afterwards I meet they're like pilot Pete wants to really meet you um I'm like yeah absolutely He's telling me, like, yeah, this is Victoria. He's like, I didn't say, like, it's not my job to say, yeah, dude, I know who she is. So I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, have fun with it, cool, yeah, man, have fun with it, cool experience, you know, enjoy it. And then I think, and he walks away, and I'm like, damn, I just got away with that. I'm going to go on the bus and go to Tallahassee, which is where I play tomorrow night.

And sure enough, as soon as I turn around, she's standing there with her arms crossed. Like, can we talk? And I'm just like, I mean, cameras are in my face right now. I'm not going to be like, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we see, we walk around the corner. She's like, I have to tell them everything. It's what y'all saw on TV.

In my head, like, I'll, I mean, I'll say this straight up any day. Why? Who gives a shit? It's about some guy that you knew before him while he's currently with 13. Who cares, man? And in reality, if it wasn't a reality TV show, that's what would happen. but they teed it up to they need their drop

and they're going to use whatever they can to get it. Oh, no clash. But all I knew, all I knew for my survivor experience was I think you guys are getting the truth more than anybody I've ever talked to, by the way. So the worth was waiting.

Let's go, boys. Yeah. You're for the fucking boys, bro. For the boys. So, where was I? They teed up and you're talking to her. talking to her at the end.

She's talking to me. She's like, I have to tell him everything. And I'm just like, yeah, you know, you're doing it's best for you and him. Because I'm not even in this thing. Like, just let me get on the fucking bus and go to Florida. And all I kept thinking of my head was don't say shit. If you don't say shit, they can't use it. And they don't have any power over me.

I'm biased going on the bus anyway. And I knew that from the Survivor days. They try to get you to say certain things to it, which is, of course, I'm sure they talk to her and do it while. While I'm talking to Pilot Pete, I'm sure they're back there. Hey, you need to go talk to him. It's like, why? Yeah, like, man, that's crazy that he's here.

That's crazy. Oh, they're teeing her up, I'm sure. Those producers are not dumb. And so I'm just sitting there in my mind, like, just don't say shit. Get your ass on the bus and go to Florida. And it left her hanging and it sucked for her. They put her in a real shitty spot. But, I mean, that's, I can't.

people that sign up for that show, you better be ready for something like that. But for me, I didn't say, I just decided, don't say anything. Get your ass on the bus and that's what happened. And that's why I was so chill on the show because I really didn't have anything to say. It's like, you're going to do what you're going to do anyway. And I have no control over it. All I have control over is getting the fuck out of this conversation right now. Right.

I'll tell you. We had Sean Booth on the bus, I don't know, seven, eight months ago. And he was telling us, like, when you, when you go on that show, you sign away your entire rights. Like, how you're perceived, how you're depicted. Like, everything is up to, up for the interpretation of the producers and how they make you look. And so that's a, that's a tough way to go on, dude. You really do. You sign your life away.

The key is, for me, I didn't sign shit. So I didn't sign my life away. So you sign an NDA, so you can't talk about it beforehand, obviously. But, yeah, man, it's a reality TV. is I've seen it. I thought it's worst with Survivor. The Bachelor, they're way fucking more ruthless over there

on that world. The thing that's crazy is we were talking to who is it? Was it Ryan Green? What are you talking to about it? Riley, Riley Green, because he was on. Riley Green, excuse me, yeah. He hasn't come on yet, has he?

We had him on the bus. He was on like some sort of southern real house show or something like that. and it's kind of like being a celebrity in becoming a celebrity through reality TV is like a very interesting way to do it because it's like it's a rough it's a very turbulent rocky way to like become famous which i know you also don't have control you also don't have control over what people yeah yeah that's why i was telling i was telling well before i think it was before you came on but like, for me, we're doing what I do.

There's such a different, so many different ways to become a star these days. And whether that's Instagram, Instagram's a huge one. I know that. I don't know. Instagram is the biggest one I feel like everybody's used. But I respect people that, I'm trying to figure out the way not to say this the wrong way, but I respect people that fucking do something. Yeah.

that have a craft to go behind all of their. Give me some reason to like you. And I'm not going to like you because you post pictures in a bikini. I'm not going to like you because you post pictures doing whatever the hell you do. I want to listen to your music. I want to watch you on a TV screen. I want to watch you play football. Why don't you like your craft?

Exactly. What is your craft? Yeah, for sure. And I'm not hating on people that get famous on Instagram because a lot of those people are making a piss load of money off it. I just prefer to pull for somebody that actually has a craft. And that's why for me personally, that says it right there. Music is all that fucking matters at the end of day.

For me and my crap, because if music isn't there, none of it matters. Yeah. Yeah. When did you get into music like that? Like, when did it click that? You're like, yo, I feel like I could do something with this. Well, 2010 is when I started writing. My dad passed away in 2008.

So I wrote my first song about him. I was terrible. I wasn't good. But I knew when I moved to Nashville in 2010 after the Survivor thing, I knew when I started write with Brian and Tyler, I was like, damn, these guys are good. They're genuinely good. And nobody else was letting us write with them pretty much

because you've got to earn your way into that world. Yeah. And so instead of us joining these big-time songwriters over here, the Ashley Gourleys, the Brett Aitkins at the time, we were trying to write with them, the Dallas Davidson's, and not to hate on them. I've written with them a lot now. But you can't just get into that door

when you walk into Nashville. And they weren't letting us in because we hadn't earned our way yet. So we earned our way together, writing songs together from 2010 to like 2013-14. And then obviously their career is just skyrocketed. Mine's not done this, but it's continued to do this. And I'm cool with that. I love it. It's allowed me to finally put out music that is good because I put out a lot of music of shit.

I mean, I look back in the beginning of my career, even the Ignite the Night album, there's probably six or seven songs. and I think that was 2000. I was around, I don't know, that was 12 maybe. And then I put out ready set roll and that kind of thing started. And now I think with the album part one and now part two coming out, it's like it's a whole different level of music. Yeah.

So you didn't even mess with music when you were playing ball, like when you're in college. The year I got heard is when I learned to play guitar. If you've ever been heard and see you guys know, it's like you're not even part of the team anymore. It's a lonely feeling, dude. Yeah. Yeah, so I learned to play guitar through that. Yeah, I mean, it's, and then so through losing my career, I learned to play guitar,

losing my dad, I learned to write songs. You take the shittiest of all the situations and try to make them good. That's fucking awesome, man. The album comes out, May 15th, you said? May 15th, it's the album part two. I'm doing it in parts because people just don't buy albums anymore. They don't buy albums. I don't know if people buy music anymore, period.

but they don't listen to albums like they used to. Like when we're growing up in high school and stuff, you probably, whoever it is, Chesney comes out of an album, you throw the thing in and listen to them and pick all your favorite songs. Now you don't do that. You're like, I don't even know

when people release albums anymore. So I want to give it. You see what's on top of the charts. Huh? You see what's like on top of the charts. It's like, well, I'll browse and be like, oh, let's see what this new thing is. Exactly.

So I want to give, like, these are the best songs I've ever put out. So I want to give them excellent. I want to put seven out on part one. Now for the most part, you know, my fans anywhere are going to, they're going to know all seven songs because it's not that much to listen to them. And they're going to pick their favorites anyway, but then part two has four songs on it, and they're going to pick their favorites from that.

And then part, but it gives me an ability to release less music more often. That's very cool. I don't know if it's going to work. I have no idea. This is the first time I've ever tried it like this, but I'm enjoying it. I mean, it seems like that's a smart way to do

because, like you said, they'll listen to it all the way through because it's only seven songs. Right. And now on four, and I think part three is I'm going to make sure it's only three songs, I think. But I've actually got some of my two of my favorite songs that I've written, one's called Drinking Beer Talking God, one's called Love You Anywhere,

are not on part one or two. I'm saving those for three or four. Ooh, for the banger. Yeah. Bangers out there, ball. Very cool. We appreciate you coming on, dude. It's been a long time coming, but fuck, we did it.

We did it in a fake way. We got to do the real version, though, for sure. We'll do the real version, and we got a farm to go to and a bus to go to. 100%. So when y'all are in the bus, are you guys sipping? Yeah, if you want. We do it. Lattees, whiskey, we got to do whatever you want.

I'm talking about whiskey or cold beer. Cold beer. We'll have some cold beer ready for it. What's your favorite beer? I mean, if we're talking the, like the American beers, the ones we all drink in college, Bud Light, Bud Light's my deal. All right, love it, dude. We'll have a pack of Bud Light, dude. No free shout-outs for the Bud Light.

Give it too. Yeah, no free shout-off. What's your shirt say, actually? Zilly, Zilly, I'm ripping a zillion beers, dude. You know Dana B from Barstool. Got a shout out the boy. All right, well, they stole that from the Dilly-Dilly. Wasn't that a Bud-Light?

Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. for sure. Well, hell yeah, I'd love to do it again. Yeah, I'll hit you all up for real right after this and just shoot you about we'll be, we've been having some fun. All right, man, awesome. We appreciate you, Chase. I want to get out to that farm, dude.

That's going to be a blast. Let's do it, man. We've got a blast. Taylor, you're the one riding the bison. No question. Ride the bison into the pond. Titans franchise player. Boys caught out at midnight.

Chase Rice filming, Will, cheering him on. Hype in the back. Taylor gets hurt riding a bison. All right, Brable. My bad, coach. You know, Brable, we'll probably be there with us, about ten more beers.

Hey, he probably will. He probably will. Yeah, yeah. Come home, coach, anytime. Oh, yeah. All right, boys. We appreciate having you out, man. Thank you so much.

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