Bussin' With The Boys - Chris Johnson Says He's Better Than Derrick Henry & LenDale White Has WILD Snoop Dogg & USC Stories

Episode Date: October 10, 2026

Recorded: October 24, 2022 | Massive week on the bus with the legendary Tennessee Titans Running backs Chris Johnson & LenDale White. We dive into LenDale's college career at USC, hanging out with Snoop Dogg, and his roller coaster relationship with Pete Carroll. Next we got into Chris Johnsons' legendary career with the Tennessee Titans. As you can probably guess the debate of who the greatest Titan running back of all time is got heated but all around just an awesome pod with 4 Tennessee Titan legends.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Talk about that. How'd you guys get that started? Why'd you guys get that going? Man, that's crazy, man. Like, you know, me and bruh, like, we always. around each other, man, like 24, 7 all the time. And we always, like, going back and forth on whatever. The topic could be anything.

It could be, is this water better than this water or whatever? We're just going back and forth about it all the time. And the only thing we was missing was the cameras. You know what I'm saying? Recording and stuff like that. So we was like, you know, we was talking one time. We were like, man, let's do a podcast. And the crazy thing about it is when we first was like, we're going to do it.

we was trying to find a name, right? Yeah. We wanted to get away from smash and dash because we know we was going to talk about all topics, like everything, not just football or whatever like that. And then, you know, just sending out tweets, like getting people to try to help us find a name and stuff. And it just kept coming back.

Everybody's like, man, I need to do smash and dash, y'all. Because it's all, we already got a following with the smash and dash or whatever like that. So everybody just kept saying smash and dash, smash and dash. So that's how we end up naming it, smash a dash or whatever. Yeah, it only made sense to me. Like he said, we try to get away from that because the podcast is more lifestyle. It's crazy because, you know, just naturally something always happens in sports.

So that's what's going to be the topic, you know, especially in locker room. So even though we don't want to talk about sports, naturally when you scroll on IG or, you know, you're on the Internet, you're going to see something to do with some sports. So we talk about that. But we talk about any and everything, women. You know what I'm saying? For show shopping, you know, how much they can't not spend money, you know, stuff like that. You know, it's all kind of stuff.

It's like, you know, whatever we going on. Talk about times at USC, you know. I remember when Snoot picked me up one time from class and, you know, people would be wanting to hear about that. So we talk about any and everything. And this is like really my right hand. This is my dog, my best friend. That's been since 2008. And it's like, shit, just rolled over, man.

It only makes sense. Dude, okay. There's a couple things to unpack there. I can't wait. I'm excited. I'm electrostatic right now. When are you talking about women, like, what are we doing? We're rating?

Or we just talking about what they can and can't do? We could rate for show. Anything. Nothing matters. Number one. Like, women out there right now? Yeah, number one. Nicky.

He loves, man. Loves some Nicki. Nah, I don't know about that. Well, listen. I don't want to get too far into this too quick, but I'm sure there's some different types out there. When I see Nikki, when Nikki's walking away, it's like in a museum to look at. Like, wow, what a beautiful painting. Yeah.

But, like, I'm not doing any damage to that. You know what I'm saying? I mean, come on. Listen, 300-pound white dude? I mean, you know, you've seen the office alignment out there. You know, that's a tough little deal. So I see Nikki, I'm like, wow, that's beautiful. I'm sure another man's going to make her very happy someday, you know?

But that's just not for me. Who's your number one? Dude, see, if we're going to go away. Like, if I'm talking about celebrity crushes, I take you back to that 70 show with Milakounis. Yeah. Wayla Coon has a day. Yeah.

Milo's been, I think that was all our crush at one point in time. Burnett, smaller, that's like my move right there. Right there. What are you at? I don't know.

I'm trying to think about it. I feel like my first. Margot, Margot Robbie, was that her name too? Margo Robbie, Brian. She is beautiful.

Her and Wolf of Wall Street, I mean, all of it, really, but her character's unfair when she opens the doors and Wolf of Wall Street. You're like, what are we doing here?

Like, do I need to go to the back in a quick? Yeah. Who do you think your very first, like, Crush was. Oh, I'll tell you right now, Rose from Titanic.

Really? That was the first pair of boobs I ever saw in my life. I feel like mine was Carmen Elektra. Oh, my boy. Oh, yeah, Carmen. Hey, yeah.

You know, everybody's out there in the internet. Early, yeah. Yeah, everybody liked the Carmen, yeah. That was the main go-to when you were younger. You see Pamela? Yeah. That's a huge. Yeah, one video out there that you all

to look at. Yeah, the porn video. Yeah. I couldn't wait to watch that. I ain't going to lie. I found out. You can see that. I was like, oh, that's the lady from TV.

Yeah, I need to see them. Right. Yeah, her, Kim, Kim Kardashian had one. We've all seen the videos, though. I mean, let's get a little better, like, let's get some better quality cameras in there. You know what I'm saying? It's a little fuzzy. Yeah, it's a video cassette thing.

You know what I mean? They didn't have any 4K. No, these things, you put that on there. You're going to see everything. Yeah. Everything's going to be dialed them. So do you guys, what are your guys's segments on smash and dash? Do you guys have a smash and dash segment?

Do you smash or dash? We definitely do that. We do it sometimes. It just depends. I mean, we definitely go on. The first, like, three episodes, I think we did do that. And we was on there, like, do you eat ass and, like, stuff like that? And it's, like, smashing her pass and their dash, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I think somebody, I think somebody smashed. I had to dash. I ain't on that. You know what I mean? But somebody was like, I'm smashing. So that's crazy to me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? This podcast is going right where I wanted to go. This is exactly where I thought it. I actually didn't think it would go to this late. But I'm happy. I'm talking about eating ass. Yeah. Oh.

So you're not about. that. You're not about eating ass? I mean, no, not right now. That's not really up on my list. Buddy, I'll ever had it happen to you? Yes. He questioned everything, didn't you? Yeah, man. You got to question everything when that happened to you.

You're honest, man. Yeah, but then she has. You let her take over. Do God's work? Yeah. You see God the most clearly. You see God the most clearly. Bro, there are some, these are like a locker room conversations to a T because I was in a the locker room one time, and I'm overhearing two dudes talking. And one guy's like, you eat ass?

And I was like, yeah, of course you eat ass. Like, I eat ass for sure. And he's like, what about sucking toes? He goes, oh, man, she's got to take a shower if I'm going to suck toes. You'll eat out. You'll say, yes, eating ass, but sucking toes. You got to make sure they shower with the toes. My man drew a line.

But you think that's fair? You want them to shower, too, in both situations. In both situations, that's what I'm saying. Most this way, yeah. You just go out for a jog and then you're like, you want to eat this thing. You can just say, yeah, I'll eat ass. and then, oh, but it's toast, I got to shower. Like, that's when you, because if you were saying, yeah, I eat ass and I suck toes,

it's like they'd probably shower before. Yeah. But if you're like, I eat ass and like, if I'm going to suck toes, they got a shower. That's a questionable assing. It's like, what are we doing with the ass thing? That's a tough deal. That's a tough gig. If he did that, then he guaranteed he definitely ate the ass without it being watched.

No question. No question. You remember being young sitting there for a couple years in the league. You go out to South or Tin Roof or something like that, bring somebody home. Nobody's worried about a shower. No one. Getting straight to it. Getting straight to it.

Everything. A couple of drinks. This man is an ultimate SC. He's a scumbag. Oh, fight on, dude.

Oh, yeah. There's no way. He said, St. Roof, I know where he was going. Oh, yeah.

I was a big loose. The ultimate scummy. Yeah, I did get pretty scummy in my first couple of years. I've got two kids now. I've dialed it back a little bit. But yeah, I'm chilling now.

But the first two years, I was out in these streets big time. I was getting a little wild. Wifee knows that. Oh, yeah, she knows. Okay. She's very, we're very, we tell each other everything. Allegedly, I don't know.

She was one of them. You know? I think we tell each other. I got that word. I think that's true. Allegedly. Because they definitely tell you 99% of things. That's okay.

It's almost like what, you know, what daddy don't know, don't hurt them. Yeah, I'm telling you when you're right now. So she's not telling me a couple things. It's okay because I don't know. Yeah. Because my feelings are fine. Yeah. It hurts when you think about it, though.

Oh, man. Especially when you're in college dating girls. Yeah. And, like, you find out they've been doing something. And, like, I don't know how y'all were, but if someone was cheating on you, I'd have to know everything. Right, right, right. What positions you guys do? What was, like, I really broke down, bro.

Bro, ain't no way. Once I know you cheat, I don't even want to hear about none of that. Really? Yeah, I want to hear. Good for you, man. That's a superpower. Yeah. I don't want to know.

That is how you guys. I got to know. Oh, you got to know. You got to know. You got to know. You got to know. I don't want to know none of that. Bro, listen.

We play Michigan State. And after the game. And after the game, I literally have a boot on and like a wrist thing because I fucked up my wrist and my ankle. And I'm at the bar. And one of my buddies plays on the hockey team is like, hey, I got to tell you something like your girlfriend, she's been sleeping with one of the hockey guys. I power walked my ass to that house, kicked the door down, went to his bedroom. And I like made him call her. And then two days later went to his house.

I was like, tell me everything. Tell me everything that happened. And he told me everything. And bro, everything he said hurt more than the last thing. It was so painful. It hurt so bad. Wow. I'm a weirdo like that.

I got to know. I appreciate you, dude. I appreciate you. I don't want to have nothing. No, no. I understand why you may want to know, but like, man, nah. What if she, that's what I'm saying? She's in there feeling you like, yeah, well, me and two other girls is in there, and it was him.

And then you're like, wait, what? Two other girls. That would hurt the most. And you didn't do that with me, but you're doing it with this new guy? Right. Yeah. No, listen, I understand. I understand where I'm wrong here.

I get it. I know I'm like not in the wrong. Right. But everything hurt, dude. Are you picking up everything Chris is saying? All right, good, because I see that microphone sitting a little far away. Don't let, don't get scared. You can put it in now.

I'm in now. I'm in now. Best Plus since 2008? What sparks it off? Like, how did you guys meet? Like, was it like sparks flying right away or did it take a minute? Well, with me, when I came, well, he was already here, then I got drafted. And then, you know, they was coming off.

When I was coming in, that's before I got here, I knew about, like the USC, Texas. You know what I'm saying? So Vince was here. He was here or whatever. So, like, just me getting drafted and me coming in, I'm seeing these guys, you know, they were like celebrities. Yeah.

So those college kids, you know, they were like celebrities. Yeah. USC with the Reggie Bush, the Lendell White, Vince, you know. So I'm like, man, like coming here, I'm like, damn, I'm with these guys, you know what I'm saying? And then just going from there and then, like, I stayed in Brentwood. He stayed off, was that Westwood? Yeah, like Green Hills. Like by Green Hills.

So, like, man, me leaving the facility every day, like, going on the way, going home, I'm stopping by his house. You know what I'm saying? I'm in the hand with Lendell White about that. No what I'm saying? So, like, just going from now, man, and it was crazy. And then, like, when I got here, his brothers and cousins was here, and then my brothers was, they moved up here with me.

So they used to hang out all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying? We've gone away games or everything. practice. He was with each other, know what I'm saying? So then, like, you know, getting out of practice and stuff

and after the games, you know, we want to meet up with them, know what I'm saying? So, like, it's just been that way the whole time and then, like, when he ended up leaving or whatever,

I was calling him, it was, there's one situation, I was calling him like, bro, man, come to, man, come to Nashville,

so he kept giving me these excuses or whatever. I was depressed as fuck. I ain't going to lie. What were you depressed about? I got cut, was done playing. Yeah. In that moment, you ain't thinking, like, especially when you don't get no calls.

It's like one year, you're like, cool, you're still working out. You're like, man, it might be the year, you know what I mean. And it's crazy because you see dogs like Marshawn, AP and something they do whatever they want, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm back, pick me up. And you're like, man, I can get not one call, you know what I'm saying? So it messes with you. And then, you know, this is 2K. I've seen it.

You know what I'm saying? He bawled out. And it's just like, man, I can't, what I'm going to do up there with him? Like, he's living his best life, man. I'm an old retired dude, you know what I'm broke now? You know what I'm saying? Like, what can I really do? So at the same time, he keep calling me like, man, like, what are you doing?

Come out here. I'm making every excuse in the world. I remember this like clock where. I'm like, oh, man, I got to hang out here. My mom needs me to do this. The dog's over there. He might need to walk him. You know what I'm whatever.

So one day he just finally calls like, hey, listen, Mike Moore booked your ticket. I'm going to see you Friday. I don't want to hear nothing else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I got here. And I'll never forget it, man. Like, I was hurting it and all.

And man gave me, like, a couple green cards, like, some money. Like, do go get whatever you need. Take these cars. Hang out. And I'm like, man, what? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's awesome. And as I'm chilling, he's taking me back out.

And I don't never forget it, my birthday, man. He had, like, a little party. He threw for me, man. And then he went on stage and he, like, called me out and did all. You know, like, and I just, you know, like, And I just remember in that moment, like, man, I'm so thankful because I don't know where I would have been. Because, like, life after football is probably the roughest shit in the world, man. It's the roughest.

Because our whole life is football. Everything is you a kid. Not only that, but being picked up by Snoop at college, playing at SC, playing around that team, being national champions. People dating celebrities back then. You're Linda White smashing dash here, and then you go to getting cut. Yeah, I'm sure it's like just flipped on your head. You cut. You know what I'm saying?

You walking around. right, man, you look good, man, why ain't you? And you like, my man, I'm winning the same thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it does something to your sight, but thank God that he was around because he's like, man, you Lindell, what are you talking about? You go to these games, you look around, you know what I mean?

You're your jersey. He's like, you can make your, you got to think you're better than that. You, because I grew, he's like, man, I grew up on you. What you mean? Yeah. And, you know, from there, man, it's been, that was, what, like 2012? That was your last shit of the Titans. Was it?

Okay. Yeah, like 2012. Yeah. I have been calling them since like 2000. Was it? It was like 11. Yeah. It was a long.

And I was bucking. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to come out there. I'm going to come hang out. Yeah. I'm going to get there, man. I'm going to get there. Right. And everybody like, man, what are you doing?

Why ain't you here? And I'm just, oh, man. I was, yeah, I was depressed. That shit was rough. So when you got cut, you went back home? Yeah. Went back home to hang out? Yeah, with the fan.

Well, I was in Denver. So I'm from Denver. I was playing with the Broncos, and then I get cut. So that's like even worse. It's the double smack, you know. Yeah, the hometown team. Man. Home town, yeah.

Every time I walk in, and this is like, I'm like, yeah, they've been seeing me their whole life. So now it's like a couple months ago or shit, two weeks ago, it's like, man, we're going to see you on Monday. You know what I mean? And then now it's like, man, we heard you got cut. And you just walking around there. And everywhere you go, that's what you hear. So, yeah, it got to a point where I was in my mom's basement, like, smoking so much weed, probably drinking lean every damn day.

Like, you know what I mean? It was like I was floating and didn't, I didn't care about like what was going to happen next. It was to a point where I didn't give a damn, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like I said, if he didn't call me, ain't no telling what would happen. You feel like that's what it was, or do you feel like there were other moments that that showed you like, okay, I can, I can pivot this way or make this move and get out of the hole that it seemed like you were in?

Getting out there and being around just him, you know, I mean, like, it was like, when I got here, it was, he treated me like I was still in Dale, like, you can drive whatever car you want, do whatever you need to do, just go out there, like hang out, you don't need me, you know what I'm saying? Did you see that he was struggling? I didn't know. Yeah, I was, I didn't know. You know me, shit, I'm just, you know, I'm still playing.

And like, like I was saying before, our normal routine was, we go to practice, I go to his house, then I go home. Or if we're going to go out, me and I'm my brothers, we get dressed. We come to his house and we all go out. So that's what I was just used to. So then when he left, it wasn't that no more, you know what I'm saying? So like, you know, I was calling him, I'm like, bro, what you got going on? Because I remember he came out here, but he was hurt. I think he tore as Achilles or something. He came out of here. I had seen him downtown or whatever. And then

like after that, like, I'm calling him like, bro. when you're coming back? Like, you know what I'm saying? Come out here. And, like, it wasn't, it was a thing. Like, I'm just, like, come out here for the game or something like that. You know what I'm saying? The crazy thing about it is, like, once he came out here from then on all the way

until I retired, like, he was with me. Like, when I left here, I went to the New York. You know what I'm saying? He was with me. Went to Arizona for three years. He was with me the whole time. You know what I'm saying? So it was just crazy.

I didn't know he was going through what he was going through. through. You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, bro, you tripping, man. I'm like, man, listen, I'm feeling to call my assistant right now. Book his ticket, man. I know if I book his ticket, he ain't just going to let me spend my money and not get on the flight. Right. So I bought a ticket. I had my assistant call him or whatever like that and he came and then ever since then, like it's up. Did you ever talk to him about you struggling? Like, did you ever catch on and realize he was, the only reason I continue to like Pran is I think it's important. Like you're like being like Lindell White figure. Like you're right. Like,

Like, I remember watching you guys, like, you play. And going through what you're going through post football, like, I'm just curious, the entire dynamic of it. There's a lot of guys going through what you're going through right now. Absolutely. I think, well, he knew, but he, you don't know until. Like, I've, the role's reversed later on. After 2018, something happened to his, he just got cut on some bullcrap.

Like, he should have still been playing. But then, like, you basically don't. you get calls, but you ain't playing for no minimum when you two, like, you know, when you certain people, you're like, I ain't doing that no more. Like, got to be right. So it's like when you don't get the calls or the people that you want, like, he ended up going through it on the back end. And then I was there and I'm like, you know, I, you know, talk to him about it, like,

going through it, like, you were 2K, play 10 and you're about to go to the Hall of Fame. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, but he, I think in that moment, that's when he understood, like, what, what he did for me back then, you know what I'm saying? because you don't really understand why you plan none of us do because man them checks coming in and the women and the lifestyle that's what it is that lifestyle there's nothing like that i don't care you can make all the money in your world but being an actual professional athlete the plane rides the access you have there's nothing like that man and then when it's cut off and you be like damn

i'm just regular lindale again but yeah you know what i'm saying once you hit a certain like well saying once you hit a certain point in your life like there's dudes that grew up on you Like, there's guys that, like, saw you play. Like, you'll never just be regular old Lendella anymore. And that's what I had to, you know. You had to figure that out for yourself, yeah. Sure. Because, like, I don't know when you guys started playing football,

but most kids start playing when they're eight, nine years old. Like, you just, you start playing football, and that's all you know. Yeah, exactly. And you realize, oh, I'm super fast. Oh, I'm real powerful. I can, I can legit make something happen out of this. And it becomes your entire life.

Yeah, exactly. So you go from spending your whole life, focus on one thing to being, like, done. That's got to be a hard transition. Your entire childhood, definitely hard. To get to the league at 21 to 23 to playing a career that just doesn't usually last until the average career is three years, but let's just say 30 years old. And then it's done.

Like you have more than half of your life left and you spent the entirety. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. 60 more years to live. Damn. I hope I don't go to 90. That'd be tough.

That's a long time. I know, but I wouldn't be mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. But what I'm saying is if you, that's just 30 is. done. Then you got 60 more. Yeah. Your homeboys that we went to school with, they're doctors, they came to, they, you know,

and they've been in their profession for 15 years now. They're starting to go off of that. To go off of that, like, when you first get in the league and you're like, I just left everybody in college and everyone's like has debt. Everyone has to like go and like make it. You're making $40,000 a year. Then $60,000 a year. And then you play as long as y'all did. You're looking at these guys like, okay, now they're making a good living consistently.

Like how did I do it? How did I do with my money? Like, what was the deal? Because five years ago, Anyone who brought up your name's like, bro, he's killing it. He's this. And then eventually it becomes, I mean, he had great career. He's retired now. Yeah.

And it's just like 30s and 40s and making their consistent living. And then it's like, as an athlete, you come out of it. And you kind of, there's just a weird shift of like you don't feel, you don't feel like you can like be around them, I guess. Or you feel like they're looking down on you because you're now out of us. The weirdest thing, too, for me is like, when I'm playing with all my boys in high school and I go to college, like it's super cool to them. But eventually, like, you go home one time. And it could be like five years after college. It could be three years after college.

It could be the first year after college. And like all of a sudden, like your boys like don't even really watch football anymore. They've moved on and like don't really like about football the way you're like, damn. Like you guys aren't in it like this? You guys didn't watch the game on Sunday? Like what do you mean? Exactly. This is it.

Right? Like everyone's like, not man. I'm a plumber. Like I got plum shit. You know what I'm saying? They're living their lives. They're living their lives. And at first like you don't like I didn't have this mindset.

I wasn't ever thinking like, man, I'm doing so good in them. But like, eventually you get to the end and you're looking. It's like, man, look how well they've done. And so they had no idea it was coming. Like, for all of us, it was like in our head written at some point, like, okay, we're going to go to the NFL. We're going to play in the NFL. And then we just did it. Like, they had to like go, I'm going to go to the NFL.

Like, oh, I didn't even get a scholarship for college. I got to go reroute and find something else to do. And they had a maneuver through all this adversity that, like, you were going through. And now you're going through. And Willie, you've been played for 15 more years. You're like, dude, like, this man's got, he's got something going, like, crazy with the NFL right now. Right. So it's just like a wild deal.

We're all screwed except for Will. We're all screwed. We said, we're going to live. Yeah. That's all we need. Yeah, it's all we need. Do you get that credited season? You're 10 Willie, dude.

That's live. For real. Honestly, like, that was always a big thing, too, with the podcast. I remember in 2018 playing with, playing on the Titans. And I was a backup, and nobody, usually when you're a backup, you need somebody to go down if you're going to get filmed to where you can get another opportunity of the next year. And so when I didn't get any of that, and I was just a special team's guy, I was like, man, I'm going to play for minimum next year.

Like, I don't want to have to be on a roster, on a 90-man roster and make the 53 every year. I don't want to have to do that. So I need to start figuring out what I'm curious about or what I enjoy because this is going to start coming at me faster than I realize. Because when it hits you and it's done, it's like it's over. Yeah. And there's a part of me that thought, like, it might be done then. So I wanted to, like, get on the podcast wave, like, while you're still, like, you know, when you're playing, it's, you have more flair.

You have more spice. You get more to it. Yeah. Your jokes are funny. I say it all the time. Your jokes are funny. You're better looking, and you can shake more hands when you're playing. Yeah.

And then when you're doing it outside of playing or after playing, it just, you know the, you know the feel like when alumni or other players coming and talk to the team. Like, sometimes they hit, but sometimes, like, you know how you and the fellas are in the locker room. Right. You know, let it go. Get over. Right. Right. As soon as you get in, man, laughing at it do.

Like, man, you hear that old-ass dude, man. That's a wild deal when people start calling you old. And you literally feel like, I don't even feel like I've been in the league for a couple years. You're like, a old head. You're like, come on. Yeah, that's a tough thing to hear. That's a tough thing to hear. You were talking early, like, you guys had your cousin, your brothers, you had your brothers with you.

Like, how did that dynamic work when you guys first gone in the league? Was there like any turmoil there at first where people like kind of reaching out a little bit? Or was it like, this is my obligation to them. They deserve this. Well, with me, it was crazy. Hang on these lives. Like, so when I got up here, right, I, um, I bought a house in Brentwood, 10,000 square feet.

Big money. First round. So. So. Hey, like, Taylor knows. Oh, yeah. Relax, relax, relax. Yeah.

Yeah. The reason why I asked is I brought two of my buddies from home, too, and my brother. And I was like, you know, the show, Entourage. Yeah. I see now. I was like, this is going to be my life, dude. I'm going to be living like this. Yeah.

So it was crazy. So, you know, when you. you first get here, you got Rick and men in the camp, then you got training camp. So I got this house. I've never been in there before, right? So my mom came up. She furnished the house and stuff. So as soon as we break camp, I go to the house, right?

I'm in the, I'm like, what the hell? I'm in this big ass by myself. Like, I'm hearing shit. And I call my mom. When I was getting scared at night. Yeah, yeah, it's scared at night. I still get scared at night. I'm with you.

Yeah. We didn't scared at night. So I had caught. I talked to my brother. or whatever, I was trying to give him to come up here. He was undecided. So, man, I called my mom. I'm like, man, you gotta call my brother, though.

They gotta come up here. You gotta convince him to come up here. So she called my brother them. She convinced them they moved up here. And then it was, man, it was just crazy. Like, you know, I got three older brothers. So I've just been around them all my whole life. Now I'm up here.

Like, we're buying for her. Like, man, we're hanging. You know what I'm saying? Y'all come up here. Y'all good. Y'all ain't gotta worry about no bills, no nothing. Come on. me hanging. So it was lovely. I loved it.

That's also what they do now? So the crazy thing about it, they still live here. Do they really? I love and they still live here. Nashville does that to you, huh? Yeah, exactly. It really does. It'll take you away. It'll keep you there. So now I'd be calling them not try to convince them to move back to Florida. Yeah.

They ain't going to where. You're back in Florida now? Yeah, I'm in Florida, Orlando, yeah. They ever thought about coming back to Nashville stand full time? Me? Yeah. Yeah, I thought about it. I thought about it. Not long.

Yeah, sounds like not very long. I thought about it. It had to be like a good business opportunity. Yeah, a good business opportunity that probably will do it. I don't think I'll come back just to live, just to be here. Yeah. If it was a nice business opportunity for me, then I would. Yeah.

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Yeah. All that. So, no what I'm saying? So when I end up leaving and going to New York and Arizona, it was just me and him. Know what I'm saying? So, and then I was here in 10,000 square foot when I went to New York. But when I went to New York, it was still a little expensive, but it was cheaper for me because I'm just like in a condo.

You know what I'm saying? Then when I went to Arizona, I'm in a condo again, you know what I'm saying? So it kind of got cheaper for me when I left. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, for me, I mean, I never made that kind of crazy money. And I definitely was one of those guys that just wanted to look out for my family all

the time. So as it got later on, yeah. It got like harder or like once it stopped coming, it's like, oh, shit. Well, you try to, you try to let them know. Like, you be like, hey, listen, I need y'all to. They ain't trying to hear that. People get used to it. People get used to it.

Yeah. They're not here. Yeah. Easy way off for so long. They're like, what you mean? I got to might have to work again or help with some mortgage or something. And, you know, you're like, man, yeah, like, it's four years later, man. Like, how much y'all think this money going to last?

I didn't sign for, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's a real conversation. That's even for people. that made a lot of money because if you like the lifestyle you live while you're playing is expensive. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Miami weekends and Super Bowl weekend it adds up. You know what I mean?

So if you're hanging like that, you've got to just look at it and make sure you're watching the people watching your money if you do have that because people steal, you know, we hear about this all the time where you think you're having money and people who are stealing two, three million dollars from your end of your face. Like, yeah, you just got to make sure you keep them ducks in the row. I don't care how much money you make. And yes, don't spend it.

Like, it's okay to, you can spend it on you, but you don't have to do it on everybody else. Right. Like, listen, everybody has an opportunity to make their money. Now, if I look out for you, that's what I want to do, but it's not my obligation. Yeah. Yeah. All that new NIL deal stuff coming in college, they should put something in place. Man, I wish to.

They should put something in place to make these dudes like a little more financial, have a little more financial education. Yeah. I know I could speak for that, but even we was at Clemson. I mean, you got paid at SC for sure, right? I don't remember. Come on now. Yeah, we've been out for too long. Reggie Bush had a house and mouth, but like, you're all good.

You were with Reggie, like, we got to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we ain't talking about a chancey, though. He gave me $100,000. So we're tying them other people, man. I'm at Ska, we're a hundred grand. Some other people are. We ain't talking about a chance.

I don't know. That's family. He can give you probably. When you were in USC, that was like USC. When I was in the USA, when I was in the USC, When I was in high school in Arizona, I want to go to USC or Texas or any SEC school besides Spanerville, Kentucky. But, like, USC was it, dude. And you knew it was going on, bro.

How are you getting all these dudes into Compton? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to see here right now. He said, tell, you know. I'm trying to figure out. I don't know. I might have got some space. No one's going to hear this. I wouldn't give it down.

I might have made a few dollars. I don't really remember. I put it like this. Johnny Mansell came on. I was talking about how much money he was making off signing jerseys. Well, Johnny Manzell was, he was. How much was he making him? he was social media y'all like he's the beginning of social media he was the you know what i'm saying

so that was the way johnny football he it was amazing i can only imagine what he was doing in tex uh fred taylor said he had a bag of like what was it was it was it 50 50 50 000 from georgia he went to florida right he went to florida he went to florida he went to florida georgia gave it to him georgia he had too many kept it dude yeah that's what you got to do that and then still went to florida did you ever have any situations like that at s e around that kind of squad i mean we know we just needed to be open about it. He said, I mean, we look at you. Right.

You know what I'm saying? We're coming to you next. Go ahead and get your stories ready because we're going to be in the house at ECU. They weren't giving no money the way at ECU, man. My mom, I hear the story about the $750,000 house and my mama didn't have all that, so I don't know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't, my parents didn't move when they say we was about to go to the draft, so I don't know, man. Like, you know what car did you drive in college? Alexis, GS-4-100. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The stipends must have been pretty good in California. Right.

I know $1,200 a month can get you that. That's crazy, you know. That is wild. He was living where? I wish I got paid to college. I would have took it. I was downtown. He was downtown L.A. living.

Nice condo. We talked about coaches. We talk about boosters. I don't really know what a booster or a coach is. He doesn't know what a coach is. All I know is that I had a nice house or a nice apartment. And when I went in there, like, I know that there was, somebody left something behind.

I don't know if it was for me or not, but I never told anybody that they left it there, and I kept it. What's the most amount of money you've seen left somewhere that you, you know? Here's an example. I didn't know if it was yours or not, not that we can forever deny, but what's the largest amount? Matthew Stafford, when he was a junior, was going to go under the draft, and he went to his mailbox.

It was $500,000 sitting there for him. For real? Yeah, 500,000 waiting for him. At his mailbox? At his mailbox. And he left it and went to the draft and we're getting the moment. We're getting the moment right now. Probably seem like a...

What's the most amount you've seen? That's crazy Maybe about a 150 Plus We're talking We're on the weekend This is all just

Yeah that's cash Rubber bands Yes sir Oh my God Getting picked up by Snoop dog What's your best story with Snoop? How did you meet Snoop? I went on tour with Snoom

So it's crazy One day A hell of a story out of you Yeah yeah It's already good One day, like, we were winning and he's always been a S-T guy. Him and his wife, Shantay, because her cousin actually went to USC. He was a safety force.

So they were always around the program. And Herschel Dennis was from Long Beach, was the running back. He was pretty big with Hersch, I mean, with Snoop and he knew him. So one time after practice, he's like, I want you to go with me somewhere and I went over there. And like, as I go over there, you know, like we open up the trailer or whatnot. I'm like, what the hell's going on? You know what I'm saying? And we walk in and all I do, he's like,

L motherfucking dub you. You know what I'm looking like, what the, you know what I'm saying? I'm freaking out. Like, this is Snoop right now. You know what I'm saying? And he's like, two, one, you know what I mean? He gives me like Colorado gangster.

You know, he just, yeah, yeah, yeah. How does he know all this shit? But I'm like, once you know him, you understand that football is what he does. So he knows everybody like that. And he's, you know, he's like, man, you code. We just start talking and I'm on that plane. I mean, on the.

something like this getting so high, it's ridiculous with Snoop. And I ain't no way I was going to turn down that fade. And he passing it when I'm grabbing him. I'm hitting it. And I just remember at one point, I know I fell asleep for at least 30 minutes, but he probably was used to it because that cush was crazy strong. I'm coming from Colorado.

He's killing people. He's killing people out there. Before it became super excited, all the crazy names. It was just some OG Cush and that shit used to pound me. I'm like, man. So I'm in there and they're just hanging. And then I remember the next day, he's like, man, you come out to the house and come hang.

out, we're cooking all that. And I'm like, wait, what? We had the sidekicks. That was the best phone. I swear any of the Blackberry Pearl. Those phones had. Yeah. Info, we sent like, it was crazy, man.

The next day we pull up to the house behind the gates. And I'm just like, this is fucking nuts. I'm hanging out with Snoop Dog. Were you a little bit nervous to go back to the house? Knowing you're going to get so high again? Nah, see, then. I would have been terrified like that. I can't go through that again.

No, I was right. And then I'm like, nah, I got something for that. But I know how to pace myself. I ain't got to hit every blunt. One time passed, they didn't get it off me, man. But, nah, I was 18. I was so anxious to go to Snoop Dog's house. Yeah.

Then I met, you know, Corday and, you know, his kids, Corey and all them. Like, I knew them. You know what I'm saying? I'm hanging out with them. They come into the games. They wearing my jerseys. It was crazy, man. His wife, Shantae, was, like, she was one of our big sisters.

She would come pick us up. you know, get her some food or whatever. Like, she was nice. Hell, man. It was crazy. I was just like, I can't believe this is my life. And then that was like my freshman year. So the whole time I'm at USC on with Snoop, this never stopped.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Picks me up from class. Like, I'll never forget the girls came in there like, man, Snoop dogs outside. You want to take your book bag, walk out there? We had class checkers and all. At that point, I didn't care, man. Yeah.

I remember Snoop or Pete calling him like, man, it was like, man, it's when you all. and he was like, man, shut up, niggins. You know what I'm going to? I'll never forget it. How did Pete handle that? He was mad as hell. Pete probably used to call Snoop,

and Snoop said that to Pete? Yeah. That is fucking. What do he say? Oh, wow. What did he say to Pete? What did he say to all this? Yeah, wait, right, right.

He said it's not good. The funniest shit ever, man. And then, yeah, Pete was pissed off to me. Me and Pete had a relationship like that, though, man. He was my guy, but at the time he knew, like,

I just wasn't under that same Pete shit. He didn't woo me like he wooed everybody. He wooed the hell out of me, dude. I went out there for a junior day and I, he gave me a hug when I first met him. I was like, yes. You know what I mean? I'm doing this. Now, the man knows how to get it out tonight.

Bro, he does. The man's the ultimate. I call him the finesse guy because he can make anything look like something else now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He got out of there right before he got a little dicey. What a genius. It makes sense, right?

Yeah, absolutely. You know, the coach is getting trouble. I'm like, how to the running back coach? If the running back coach knows something, then somebody else knows something. Not Pete. Not Pete. He was gone, dude.

He was out of there. Talking about one up there. He got that good money. And he's killing at Seattle now. He had Gino Smith as a quarterback. He's got him looking like that first rounder. Yeah, he got Geneal looking good. Everybody in Seattle's so happy.

He got Russ looking like, man, Bronco Country ain't riding. No, they are not riding right now. Poo LaRue, bro. He's looking bad, dude. Yeah. Yeah, Pete's a stud. He's a stud. Yeah.

That's my guy. People always ask me about him and, like, my time with him. And it's like, man, I wouldn't trade that shit for the world. Like, what we did and accomplished is, like, why would I never, I only wanted to play for him then. Yeah. I mean, but that was also before it became Pete Carroll. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Once you win back to back and you playing the three straight national champions and then you, you know, like, that's the Pete Carroll. That's Pete Carroll now. You know what I mean? I knew him when he, like you said, and you come in your mom's room and he, he's, you know, honest with you and he's telling the truth. I knew his wife. I knew Brennan Carroll. I knew it.

Like, you know, I'm staying at the beach house. This is like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I knew him. And then he traded for me in Seattle. And then he cut me. That's crazy story. How did that conversation go when he got here? Marchon Lynch.

How weird is that? Yeah. Marchon's pretty good. I mean, but you picked the same. Like, come on at this time. It's like, bro, I talk shit. He talks shit. You know what I mean?

But that conversation was like a crazy one. I cussed his ass out. man because I was so angry at him because like man I know the NFL was a business but when you're thinking when you playing with a guy that knew you since you was a baby yeah like man you've been knowing me like so I would have thought the way he cut me was a piece of shit man I'm literally I just practiced OTAs this is memorial weekend y'all morning it's supposed to be a great weekend we're going to Vegas yeah everybody's going to Vegas he knows that man I'm walking off the field is me Mike Williams can each you Daisy and Steve Sarkis and because Sark was

coaches for Washington at the time. So it's like a big-ass SC reunion. I hug him all, never forget. He's like, I'm, hey, man, enjoy your time. Do all that. I'm like, all right,

two feet. I'll see you later. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? I land in Vegas. I go to the hotel, you guys. That's true-ass story.

I'm looking at a sports center with all, imagine being there with every one of your old teammates or whoever. Yeah. What? He cut.

That's how you found out you got cut? What? He hugged you. He hugs you as a hand, man, have a great time. It's the same day, right? It's the same day. Oh, my God.

This is four hours later. It's five from Seattle to Vegas. I go in TV and I'm looking this. Never forget it because Drew calling me, Drew Rosenhouse, this is maybe like an hour after I land in Vegas, but I'll go down there and Drew's like blowing me up and I'm like, what the thing is he want? And finally I answered, he's like, man, what do you do down there?

I'm like, I don't know, but clearly I'm seeing it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would have thought at least he would have called me. I'm like, you don't owe me shit. Let's be real. Like, you know, once you're in this business, you know, they don't owe you anything. But I, my relationship with him thought he would at least call me,

like, man, listen, whatever you did at practice or your mind ain't here, I don't want you on a team right now. I don't think you're ready for what I got. Yeah. I could have, I would have handled it away better. But to see my name on TV and I know who you are, like, that shit was cowardish to me. Like, to me that was like, and I, that's what I expressed to him. I MFed him.

You thought, oh, you did speak to him. What? I called him, yeah. Really? He picked up? Yeah, he knew he had to. Yeah, I don't know if I would have picked out. I've been like, I'll get that on Monday.

I'll get that up to the weekend. But he's, that's what I'm saying. He's a finesse. Yeah. Oh, man, man, you know, he's doing all that shit. And I'm just, like, so angry. But I know who this guy is. Right.

So, like, I don't know why I'm that angry. You know what I'm saying? Because I know who he is. It's the same guy, like, I know him. But still, I would play for that guy all over again. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

This is a moment of being that angry. If that Seattle shit, no, I would have never, no. I would have never left Tennessee. I'd have told Jeff Fisher, no, I ain't going. I'm boy. But if you're getting traded, don't you have to go? I mean, I don't have to show up. Yeah.

You'd be like, well, remember, you requested. Trade Detroit, right? I'm saying, if they were to trade me in a trip, I'm retiring. Yeah. That's crazy. You're requesting a trade, right? But listen, that's what, I mean. Yeah, he requested.

But, yeah, I'm being young and dumb back then, but also, you got to think this is requested a trade. But it's $2K. But also, yeah, when I request the trade, he just ran for 2K, you're damn right. I better get the hell up out of here. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. So at the same time, you're saying it wasn't anything that was.

But knowing what I know now, I would have took my Rockefeller hush up money, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Give me my little four or five million. He's the guy. I'm okay to backing him up. You know what I'm saying? I don't need CTE, although we probably all got it, but you know what I'm saying?

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know, don't put the evil on us. Hey, I'm just being, you know what I'm saying? off of that? Yeah, man, but yeah, like, I asked Jeff, and I can't lie. Me and Jeff, I had a great relationship with Fish, man. Seems like everyone did. Seems like everyone loved Jeff.

I called him one day, like, man, like, what do you think I should do about the situation? He was like, man, Linda, whatever you really want to do. He was like, it's ultimately up to you. He was like, man, you know what he's doing right now. It's not like we're going to bench him right now. You would definitely still get carries. But I'm thinking at this time, I'm still in number one. Right.

So I'm like, yeah, I need a, yeah, I need a fresh start somewhere. And then on draft day, I get called from Pete. Y'all don't understand. I'm ecstatic. I'm like, damn, my old coach is traded for me. Yeah, that would be sick. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, hell yeah.

Got a great relationship with anything that's good now. Second round pick. I'm like, I'm going back to home. Yeah. And all the fucking coaches are there, y'all. The same guys from SC are there. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And it's crazy because, like, yeah, like, I think they, I'm in the league now, guys. I'm not that little Lendale, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all knew here. Y'all are rookies in the league. league. Like, how are you going to, you know what I'm saying? I know you're a coach, but you're a rookie coach now. Yeah.

Don't come in here. Like, and it was crazy. He went up to Seattle cutting everybody. It was like me, Lofa Tupu, Tj. Like, he was trying to get, like, you know what I mean? People that wasn't on that shit that he was on, he was like, yeah, they got to go. But, you know, like, man, I just thought it was going to be a matchmaking. Like, I just knew it because I know the offense.

Like, I know what the hell is going on. My old coach Sherman was the, my coach, my rookie year was the running back coach now there. at, you know, Seattle, so I'm just thinking it. We had Quintan Gantra out there with me. Kevin Vickerson got traded with something. Man, I'll be cool. I got people here with me. Yeah, all right.

What? I'm cut. Yeah. Sounds like you could have done that a lot better. Oh, it's on the TV, on ESPN. At least even at the end of that practice, that man, come into office real quick. Yeah.

Yeah. If there's anything you did that led to it, like you slacked off the opportunity a little bit. I probably was... Knowing, like, you were going back to all your old coaches, you're kind of the big dog. Longer leash. Yeah.

Yeah. I probably, yeah, I probably, yeah, I probably, yeah, I probably did do that. Not knowingly. Right at the time. Yeah, I probably thought I was, like you said, the big dog around it. But I'm, yeah, like you said, these are my strength coach from, I've been knowing y'all for the last. This is 10 years. What are you talking about?

If there is an issue, y'all should be like, Lendell, let me how that you for. You're able to bring you in the room, yeah. That's the new guy that y'all come in and you ain't like, you know my mom. Y'all sent me, you know my grandma's sick. Like, y'all knew. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, what are you talking about? Man, so he cut me, man, and it's crazy.

I went home. I'm in Denver. It's chilling, like, you know what I'm saying? How the rest of that weekend in Vegas go? You shake it off? You know, yes and no. Yeah, it's hard to shake it off. But, yeah, I probably, I don't know.

I think I did some Mali and all kind of shit. So, of course, I shake it off. You're feeling a whole lot better, huh? Yeah, I was trying to shake you. I was trying to hang out. Yeah. But then, you know, imagine that Molly and you realize your ass got cut. Yeah.

Well, you don't realize. Yeah, cut them all. You're talking about my life. No, yeah, no. You make the next morning. No, my life's number. No, you notice. Oh.

I'm with, Reggie. I'm with CJ. I'm with, I'm with everybody in the league. Yeah. John and McNabb. There go Javon. Curson. Yeah.

Guess who cut, though, hang, me? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So naturally, that Molly started getting you. They're like, you all right. You're like, you're all.

I ain't paying for shit, though, this weekend. Fuck y'all. You know what I'm saying? You didn't pay for a thing, did you? Not nothing. I got a boy. I ain't got nothing, man.

Yeah. Nothing, man. How did you feel from him? You were with him in Vegas? I think my dog, he knew, so he ain't been punking the Giants, so he'd been getting all kind of free money all year. I ain't coming to camp unless I'll give me five moments. So he's like, yeah, I got you, though, where I'm like,

I'm like, you know, bitch, but I'm playing. Man. He said he was punking the tight. Pucking the Titans. Was there any, was there ever any, like, animosity with you all too in the room? Like, as he started to, take over the RB1?

Hell no. Bro, that's what's so crazy. Let me be real with it. This is for any kid or anybody looking out there. Like, you can't be mad at greatness. I play with Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Like, how, how, like, imagine that in your career. Yeah.

Like, you know what I'm saying? But also, I got to witness some of the dopest, you know what I mean? Two of the greatest running backs ever. But they also helped me elevate my game. So, like, and I've seen how hard this man worked, y'all. Like, I was one of those dudes at the Titans, like, yes. On Monday, yes, as soon as they say you can break, I'm breaking. I'm trying to go to, you know, hang out Mondays.

I'm trying to get tipsy and have a good time. Whatever. I'll walk by the rooms. He and, you know, the good boy. You know what I mean? Finescing. Come on, bro. Talk in there.

He's a naked camera. I don't know. A man, he makes the doors are open. Yeah, yeah. He ain't really watching. Bro, I'm watching, bro. I'm watching. I'm watching.

I'm watching. I'm watching. I'm watching. You know, look. And then you go back into the training room. You're like, I thought you said you about the meeting. I got to be, I'm seeing about two hours.

I'm like, I never caught on, you know what I'm saying? Naturally, when you see it a year later, Nicky-old, it makes sense. But, no, again, you can't, I can't be mad at that. That's hard work, that's dedication. Like he said, he came from ECU. Maybe my USC and being that big dog probably got to me. You know what I mean? He had to work a little harder.

He wasn't on the radar. He wasn't Reggie. You know what I'm saying? And then coming there and seeing that, like, he's like, I'm playing with Linda. I probably got to turn up anyway, you know what I'm saying? So, and he was cold. I mean, the first game I ever seen him play, what was the preseason? Did you play the right?

Rounds. Rounds game. Yeah. Right. Man. I mean, you ran for over 1,000 your rookie year, right? Yeah. I mean, basically, I'm talking to him from the first preseason game.

If you under, if y'all know football, man, when you see how he boom, boom, and ran over it and kept going, like, was it, 66, 69? or something. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. You think I'm in trouble. Man, in my head, I'm like, how the hell? Like, how did I go from Reggie to this dude? Yeah, that's got to be fucking tough. And he's running crazy. Yeah.

Like, it ain't know, I'm bouncing. It's like, I'm trying to drop the shoulder. I'm like, how this little dude want to run with power all of a sudden? Yeah. I was ridiculous. I was 10. 190. Yeah. On a great day. On a great day. He's lying or telling the truth.

He's lying. He's lying. Bro, go look at him. Ask him. Yeah, yeah. It was Steve. used to help him with his weight, too. That's what I was right. I wasn't allowed. Waterson? Yeah, Waterson.

Yeah, Waterson put the five-pound plate in your pocket. But he wasn't allowed. No, I wasn't allowed to be under 195, though. Okay, well, so, okay, 190. Yeah, I get what you're saying. I want to allow. I was going to get a bugger. Ain't going to lie, though, but the crazy thing he looked out for me.

The crazy thing, my, man. Yeah, I heard some crazy stuff about Fisher. Like, Kenny Britt would go into Fisher's office, but I'm not working out today. I'm not working out today. I don't know about that. Really. It wasn't like, people weren't just thugging out like that.

But, I mean, if you had a relationship with it like that, like, I'm sorry, he'll probably be like, man, chill out today. Yeah, yeah. Fish was like that. And you didn't have to do that to fish because he understood the vibe of the team. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man, that's got to be, that's a tough situation. He had to witness greatness, though.

Witness, and I got to see, like, I've seen 2,000 yards. You know, that's, like, crazy. I've seen it. Right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's only happened eight times. That's pretty incredible.

Two of them on the Titans, too. You hear me? That's wild. That's incredible. Yeah. And I've seen it. I watched it. All, most, all purpose shards in the history of the game.

You know what I mean? That's crazy. Man, bro. Going to that 2000 yard thing, when you were a couple years ago when Derek was running and he was going on the mission for 2000, what was your like, how did you feel about it? Were you just like, all right, get 2000, but don't break my 2000? No, I wanted it. Yeah. You wanted him to get the record record.

Yeah. Like, man, I used to talk, like, not used to. I still talk to him all the time. but like especially that year when he was going. Yeah. He's talked to him for every game. Really? Every game.

And it was crazy because not last year. I think it was two years before, like, before they was feeding him like that, I came here to an alumni weekend and we was here. And I was, I forgot who I was talking to. I think I was talking to art at the time. One of the coaches, I'm like, man, y'all have to feed Derek. Because at this time, they was, you know, five carries. DeMarco Merle.

DeMarco Murray. He went 1600. Yeah, he went since 1900. And, like, they was ready to give up on Derek. Mm-hmm. They was ready to give up on Darren. I'm like, man, trust me. I know they were when Dionne Lewis was here.

Yes. Yeah, because Derek got, I don't know if the benched is the right word, but he was... I mean, sort of, remember we'd be in the locker room. Yeah, Derek was starting. Yeah, Derek was mad as hell. He was mad, man. Yeah, I'm like, man, he's the type of back. I'm like, we're different.

We're not the same size, but I'm like, he's kind of like me, because we're the type of bats. You can't give us five carries here, five a carry there. Like, man, you got to feed him. And I'm getting a grew up. You know what I'm saying? Give him 20, 25 touches, 30 touches.

I'm like, once y'all do that, y'all going to see what type of player he is. And then that next year, that's when they started giving them carries. Yeah, 2019, 2020, he went off. He went crazy. Wow. And it's just wild because it was ready to give up on him.

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Heism trophy winner. And they was, that's what they were saying at the time. They were like all the Alabama backs like, yeah, they'll do good and, you know, and get the awards, but then they get in the league,

you know, somehow, some way they fall off. But then all of a sudden, Trent Richardson was right before him. And that was a huge, that was tough. Yeah,

that was tough. You kind of just accumulate the baggage a player has before you. Alabama's at the most bus. But I also want to know, like, how I have so many more draftics than everybody else. Yeah, yeah, but still, you know, probably more percentage, though, right? Right. Yeah, no, I mean, so here's the 2,000 yards, which brings us to the topic of who's the best back in Tennessee history.

The best back? Best back. Yeah, who is the best running back? Yeah, who is the best running back? There's really three to go off of, right? Tennessee Titans history. Tennessee Titans history. Or Euler Titans.

I mean, oiler Titans. Yeah, I mean. You got to put Earl C. Earl is Earl. I know, but I mean, because you tweeted yesterday, you said, Derek is already the goat,

but today he cements his goatness in the, yeah, he didn't, he didn't get those two touchdowns I needed him to get. Killed my fantasy. He killed you. I only got 16 points.

I mean, it's solid still, but. This man be on there, too. He don't watch the game for nothing other than man. Did he score? You know, I know. I had Travis Kelsey.

He scored touchdown. They called it back for holding. I was like, I saw that touchdown. Damn. But all right, let's just go. You want to do you? You want to say my order?

Yeah, what's your order? So I'm just going to go tightens because I don't know enough about spoilers. Yeah, when you're going to. I would go Derek one. I would go you two and Eddie George three. And that, not only when I said that, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I had to look in your eyes when I said that because it hurt me to say it to you when we just met.

But that was. Why? Okay. Yes, it is, though. Why is Derek your one? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Before we get in that, what's your order? One through three.

One through three? Yeah. I would go, me, Derek, then Eddie. Okay. Me? I'm saying you, Eddie, then Derek. Oh. You know that Eddie didn't miss for like the first eight years.

He didn't miss games. You know. Just what I'm talking. But hold on. If we're talking, even you so you know your history. Let's do this. Because he's probably one of the, I don't know, five or six players to start off his first six, seven seasons with over a thousand yards.

Right. So that's what I'm saying. How many hours do you rush for overall? Overall. Oh, no, just with the Titans. Just with the Titans. Yeah. I think with the Titans, like 7,000.

Seven thousand. And Derek's at 7,000 now. How many years has you been with the Titans? This is the seventh year. Okay. And he missed. Eddie George, seven out of the eight years with Tennessee over, over a thousand. thousand.

Okay. Eddie was a different animal. I mean, basically, he was a career besides him. And this is no disrespect to Eddie. I hope people, he's not seeing this thinking.

Oh, no. That's my guy. But you play with Derek. I play with Derek. Yeah, I play with Derek. Yeah, so that's my question. Why is,

why Derek first? Yeah, why he's number one? The reason why I think Derek is one of the most dominant running backs of all time. Right. I think that, I think his 2,000 yards, well, I know you got the 2,000 yards,

but I think, if you play 30 games, you have 3,400 yards, and 30 touchdowns. In his last 30 games, he's done that. And he's done that consistently. I know his first two years, obviously, it weren't what you wanted to be because he had guys in front of them and the whole Dionne Lewis thing. I just think it's probably got to be some recency bias, too. I mean, I've played with him.

I helped him get those yards. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. So I think from a running back, handing the ball off, here's the ball, go run. he's he's probably top five back ever right but then I think the threat you had of catching the ball Eddie had to catching the ball and that way I can see what where the edge comes there I can see I can see the edge but I still gotta go Derek

it's my boy that's my guy not a whole lot of information I gave up there had a whole lot of information I just gave up right now I look no Derek that's my guy man that's my guy he's man he's a man he's a beast. He's a style. And if you look at him right now, he's like,

he's only, like, Ben Jones is in year 11, the center. Everybody else is under year four. Like, he's playing with dudes that don't have a lot of experience. And the last four games

or three games, he's still ripping off over 100 yards. Right. You know? And he hasn't kept a stride yet. He's the only dude I've ever seen that the more you give him the ball

later in the season, the stronger and more dominant he gave. He gets stronger and stronger. And he'll look at him in the playoffs too. Yeah, Like that, 2019, Patriots went crazy. Baltimore went crazy. Like, he's just, it was insane.

It was insane to see. So it's hard for me to sit here being a part of all that, watching all that, and then having to say, all right, like, this person's got the edge. Yeah, hey, because get wet, because you can't play with me, though. That's true. But hang on. Yeah. I bet if Michael Ruse was in this room right now, he'd say you.

Yeah, he would definitely say. I know Mike would say that. You'd think so? It's with Mike, but I'm. Man. Was you there yesterday? Yeah, he was there. Yeah, but the reason why I would say me number one,

I had 2,500 yards. Nobody ever done that. That's catching and running, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive. I'm saying? 2,500 yards. Yeah, that is fucking crazy.

Yeah. The year I went for 2,000 yards, I had 500 receiving yards. Yeah, that's wild. Hey, Will, back me up. I had 5,000 yards and 500 receiving. 500 receiving. Yeah. Like I...

What's your order? I respectfully disagree with it, Derek. I think Derek is three on the list when you talk history of the Titans. I think if there's one year, if you're going to have one year with one running back, it's kind of like Tom Brady-Bradie argument. I'd take Manning and one year over Tom Brady, but collectively in a career, you're not going to argue Tom Brady. I think...

You just made this man so happy with that damn comment about... Do you say Peyton over Tom? You got to be... Hang on. Hang on. Let me finish, though. I think the same thing with Derek. I mean, that $2,500 all-purpose, that's... Now that I'm thinking about that, I'm like, that's kind of tough.

But Derek's... Because he happens as a receiving threat, too. Yeah, Derek's one year of going over 2000. It's like, who was stopping that man at all? No one. But in his... In the history of being a Titan, he only has right at the moment three years of over 1,000 yards.

You're talking to, like, he's had... Six. His first six. Like, Derek, it took three years to get to a thousand. He did it his rookie year. Eddie George, eight out of his nine years, or seven out of his eight years, was a thousand-yard runner. Like, every year...

So there's three. I would say, Derek. Derek's three in the history of Tennessee tights. Derek's my boy. Like, again, this is hard to say. I know he's in tier one. He watches this podcast. I would take Derek in one year of the three running backs.

Like, hey, if we're going to hand the ball off, we're going to build it around the run game. I disrespect to you because you're a fucking king in your own right. I would take Derek. But in history, I think Derek is three. I would probably go, the 2,500 kind of makes it confusing. Because outside of that, running the ball, I would say it goes, Eddie, you, Derek. But with the receiving, it's like, you know, take your pick. They're all great.

But that's my, I think it's hard to say Derek's the top of most dominant running back ever because, again, he's got a career to put together more. He's got to continue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as dominant, it's like, yeah, he's the fucking. You're running into the Aaron Donald argument. Yeah, yeah. People say Aaron Donald's the most dominant did it up all times and say, well, he needs more years to prove that. Yeah.

Yeah. Especially when you're stacking them up against, like, Reggie White and those guys who have just a resume. Right. Right. I hear that. Yeah, but when I come by the, like, my thing is, like, I wonder, I wonder what it was, like, why they been, why they didn't give Derek the keys to the, you know what I'm saying, to the car, like. Yeah, why? In what way?

In what way? Back here is, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, why wasn't he starting? No, no, no, no, no. Why wasn't he starting? Like, clearly, we know Derek was the guy. When Derek, the first three, the first three years, yeah. I think when Derek first came in,

DeMarco Murray, we traded for a fourth round pick from the Eagles. DeMarco comes in. He was coming off the Cowboys year too. He was coming off the Cowboys and went to the Eagles had a tough year at the Eagles, not as good of a year.

And that's why we got him for a fourth round pick. He comes in, now you have a back who knows all the systems, like, just nose ball better, probably at that point.

And I think like, like, there's things that you have that are undeniable. Your quickness and speed were undeniable. You could put you on the field and be like, all right, this guy's going to figure it out.

He's going to find the hole somewhere. Derek is a guy that if you get him into his fourth or fifth step and keep that line of scrimmage clean, that's when he gets the yards. That's when he's going to make those dominant runs. So I think what DeMarco is easier to plug and play him in the beginning. With Derek trying to pick up. Now, I'm talking out of my ass right now.

I really don't know. This is my assumption. This is the year before you got there? No, I've been here for nine. Right, but I'm saying when you say you're talking about your ass, are you talking about a year right before you got there? Or you talking about like when you were here? No, when I was here.

Derek got drafted in 16. I got drafted in 14. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. That's all right. That's kind of crazy. That's not disrespectful. Well, I'm just saying you're not really talking out of your ass as much then.

Well, the only is when I say I'm talking about, I might be talking out of my ass. The only is why I'm saying that I wasn't in Derek's head. I don't know what he was picking up and not picking up. I was in that running back's room. So now I'm making a bunch of assumptions saying, hey, well, how is this really working? Then the next year, I'm not, I don't know. I think it kind of goes to what you were saying before. Like you guys aren't the kind of backs you give five touches to.

And we were still kind of transitioning from like, we were running the ball a lot, but we were running a lot more duo, a lot more gap scheme, a lot more stuff that, you know, for whatever reason, Dion was doing a better job of in the beginning.

But I don't, I'm not judging Derek on like his slower start. I'm saying this dominant player just continuously like take 25, not slowing down at all. And it's just continually being like that dude over and over. Right, right. Yeah. Deion was a B-Soo coming out in New England.

Yeah, he was. And he was straffing. His feet were this big, but he was strapping, bro. And they would throw in the ball. And at times you feel like Derek was trying to do, like, do I need to be more of a guy like that? Instead of being like, hey, this is what I'm going to be, I'm going to run it.

And I asked that because I know, like, a lot of it was just opportunity. Right. He wasn't given the opportunity. So I'm not saying he wasn't good when he first, in the first years, but I'm just saying, I wonder why they, waited so long to give him the opportunity.

It makes sense with the DeMarco Murray thing. Yeah. Going to the Deion thing. So he has his rookie year the way he has his rookie year with DeMarco. When you're in practice, like even when you're in practice, Derek's going to take some time to get going and practice a little bit. So if you're going through camp and they're splitting reps, what are they getting?

10 reps each at practice? You're not going to be able to see, oh, shit, we can give this guy the ball over and over and over again. Right, right, right. So now you're going through the season, making these guys switch off a little bit. Derrick's, he comes in, starts to warm. up, gets back out, then he has to go big in, re-warm up and stuff like that. And I don't know what your back situation was like. Obviously, I mean, you were there, but like when you got the ball, you hit that 69-yard run in a pre-season game, people are probably saying, okay, we're cooking with something here.

There was never that big flash of something with Derek in the beginning of those two years for the coaches to look and say, oh, we can give you this ball 25 times a game. You know? Right, right, right. So maybe that plays a little more into it. And as a coach, you can't be like, damn, I can't believe you guys didn't see it. It's like, how are you going to see that? Like you have no idea. You know, you're just kind of hoping.

And when Derek first got to the league, like, they show clips of him at practice, like tripping over bags and shit. Like, this dude, he looks like a baby deer for a second. You know what I'm saying? He was just like so big. I was like, dude, this is a D-N. Right, right, right. He's, like, come into his own.

Like, it's crazy to say about a Heisman trophy winner, but like, he comes in the first two years and it's like, good for him. That those first two years went like that. Right. Because then he still balls out those next two years gets paid, and he's got more trend in the tires for the long run. And it's like, Derek's one of those dudes where, he's like a like you know backs you all know like there's only so many hits you guys got and with him

it's like where's the slowdown like where do you see him slowing down at all like there's nothing even with this foot stuff yeah will call him was like is this like the end of derrick like is this is the last we're seeing of this man and it's like shows up and look at him again he's doing it again right now and the numbers aren't crazy right now yeah they never are in september middle of october never yeah they're never that way he's sitting at what right now like 500 i mean he's top What sucks is the fact that, like, yeah, he said how many, what thousand yards season is three? But last year, like, last year didn't count because he got, he got stopped at 90. I know, and that's, that's a thousand yards season right there.

That's a thousand yards. He would probably end the record rushing all time. No question. He was at 954 after seven games. Yes, and that's the craziest thing about it, man. We talk about this all the time, right? He doesn't get hurt. I don't think this argument's not as big as well as it is.

That's true. You know what I'm saying? But then you play if so at time, buddy. Yeah, but he would be at four years in a row. of over 1,000 yards. And not only that, but he did. Two years ago, two, two, K. He's getting touchdowns.

He did two years at two K. Yeah, he's over. Right. Yeah, he's the number one in history. But we, I'm glad that you said that because we talk about that all the time. Like, once we go for 2,000 yards and you come back and go for, if you don't go for 2,000 yards again,

and you go for 1,300. They're like, damn, he's, he's not. He's not a lot. Yeah. I ran for 1,300 yards. How's it? How did you find out? That's why, yeah, it's awesome.

That's why when you talk about now, they're like, oh, he has a slow start, this and that. But look at the... Look at the yardage. They're so easy to forget what happens. They forget that quick, like... Go back to the 2000 yard season. The numbers were similar. Right, exactly.

At this time. Yeah, yeah. Four years in a row with double-digit touchdowns, too. Right. They make it seem like he got... He carries that motherfucker. 200 resting yards, right. now.

Like, violent, bro. Right. Like, and Derek's not like, as big as he is, he's not like a bulldoze you over type of dude. He does a great job of just having arm tackles left and right, like moving them hips just a little bit. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Not a big jump cut guy, but he can get down.

Right. He's been running a little more mean. Got the new hairstyle. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, I'd never seen emotion like that from Derek. Yeah, never seen emotion like that. And yeah, he's just, he's just, he's just, by the same.

about his business. Yeah. I think he doesn't get hurt next year. Like, we're not having this conversation. One thing, you had Eddie at two, right? No, I was here when Chris Brown. No, I'm saying. When you ranked him.

You had Eddie at two and you had Eddie at two. Yeah, for me, it's all about longevity. Like, continuing the second year. Like, again, you have one year with one of those guys. I'm choosing Derek. No, I think part of the Eddie George being three to you and me, I don't know if this is for you, but maybe it's like so much time has gone by. You don't appreciate it as much.

Right, right. That could be it. That could be it a little bit. Because Eddie was a stud, bro. Oh, he was, but how can I? I can't put Eddie over somebody that went for 2,000 yards. As a running back, I'm with him. If you go to TK, you automatically get the edge.

You can't. You got Eddie at three then? I probably, yeah. No, I think you. You had Eddie at two at first, right? I might have to come back at three thinking about the two kids. How can you do that? Different.

We all, as a running back, you grow up your whole life. I'm going to do 2,000 yards. That's what I'm going. So when you do 2K and you call even, but, I mean, this dude's been running for 4,000 yards this whole life. So Derek Henry been, he's been doing his thing. Bro, he went 2K in high school, 2K in college, 2K and NFL. Only player, only person in the world to ever do that.

Yeah. I went 3K in college. Okay. In 2,500. Yeah, but you know, he's a... The 2K argument, the 2K argument is valid. Yeah, that's a matter of fact, I might have to switch mine. I might have to go 83, not Derek 2,000.

But to give Eddie his flowers to do his first. But to give Eddie his flowers to do his fun. fucking dominant for so long. He was lovely. Eddie was lovely, man. He had to make a transition, like how hard it would be to be playing somewhere and having to move. But not only having to move, like the Rams went from St. Louis to L.A., you go to move and then go play in Memphis and drive two hours, go to Memphis, come back. A practice at Vanderbilt.

You're doing meetings in a room like this. Right. He worked with adversity and still was so dominant. Man, Eddie was great, man. Eddie was great. And he ran so hard. Like, man, it was. Man, I still remember.

He was on the Madden cover. Did y'all have a dream cast? No, I had a dream cast for a minute, but I was never on it like that. No, but, no, but Dreamcast that year when Eddie, no, but I'm saying. I know the Dreamcast. Man, you're right. I was all about since before. That year when Dream, like, it went around on, but Eddie was the best running back on the game that year.

No, yeah, Eddie was. When Dreamcast, yeah, it was Eddie and Marshall Fault. Marshall Marshall was a monster Marshall She could go off one game One dream cast game When I played NCAA back in the day I was the best running back in the league

You know what I'm saying You couldn't touch me You couldn't touch me back It was great though man That's my boy But yeah That's why I got to go With Derek too

Because he had the 2,000 yards So I respect that So he goes So if Derek goes A couple more years over 1,000 Would you tip the calf to him Would you bend the knee? As far as what?

Him one? One. I can't do that. If he break my record, yeah. Oh, you say if he breaks your record? Yeah. You're lucky he got hurt then last year. What do you mean record?

$2,500? Oh, $2,500. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the man doesn't really catch with that. A lot of rushing yards. No, no, no.

That's all purpose. All purpose. That's all purpose. He beeps you on the rushing yards, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on now. Yeah, like 20 more yards. Yeah, see what I'm saying?

Yeah, see what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, man. You see that. No. Yeah, say that. That's a whole other, that's a whole other, honey. And guess what? And guess what?

Guess what? Guess what? In the last game, I had a 70-yard touchdown call back. So you're the broke talk. And it wasn't even holding. I was hot. I was going to. I feel like everyone got there if, you know, he didn't play in the second.

No, but, bro, it wasn't a holding call. What was it? I would be Eruddickson record. Yeah. But, hold on, what happened? What was the call? It was so on our fullback. So we was.

We was running the inside zone. So in this game, we threw it in where we do the toss. We toss it. And Amahaw come up, him and the linebacker, me, head up, bum. You block them. And they call holding on them. Probably just fails. Can we pull that film up?

Is there a way to pull that up right now? They called holding on them. It wasn't else. This screen hasn't been on the whole time, by the way. It's the crazy thing about it. Guess what? The next year, you know how they come and talk to us. The goddamn rough come to us at the, at a,

thing. The next year... Yes. Bro, how hot? How mad were you, bro? I was so mad because, listen, going into that game, everybody knew I wanted to get 2,000 yards,

but... How far away were you going into the game? How far away? I needed 130 yards. But we all said, man, forget that. We're going for the overall record. Yeah.

We went for the overall record. So in the second quarter, I broke for 70. Called it back. this was your 2K year? Yeah. That would have gave him the rush. He had the last game.

He would have broke Eric Dickison. Derek got two care. He got the, bro, he got his 2K. He needed like 230. He got it to the last year. He needed a 230. I watched that game.

Yeah, he needed a 30. Yeah, I needed, yeah, I needed one. And the crazy thing about it, I didn't even know that I broke, that I, um, the $2,500. I didn't even know that I had a martial record to the next day. Oh, really?

Yeah. I only care about the 2,000 yards. Yeah, yeah. Then the next day I'm getting an interview, yeah, they interviewing me and they asked me about, I'm like, what? What my total? I didn't even know what my total yards was. That's crazy. It's like, yeah, you brought it.

I think Marshall had like 24, 23, and I finished with 2509. You didn't even manage yourself as number one until you learn that said about yourself. No, I still woulda. You say you didn't even know. No, but I still would have just off my 2000 yard year. I think, I'm the only guy, hey, listen, I'm the only guy in history with like eight. 80-yard runs. Two-story.

I think, like, Derek gets another double-ditche touch that year. Derek's one of, like, five people to have a 99-yard run. Right, right. And dudes had, like... He had a 98-hour run. I was going to say. I think Derek's, like, if he gets double-digit this year, which he will, he gets, like, if you get at least 1,500, which I think he will,

I think there's a strong argument. He goes down. He now becomes... Because, again, he's stacking... That's five years ago. Say last year. Last year was 9-50. but everyone knows if he doesn't get hurt.

But that's the if, like you say, if I was the thing, when they call my, listen. But listen. Hey, but check this out. If you don't call my touchdown back, I probably have $2,600. Yeah. And if he don't get hurt in Arizona, you know, telling how many overall yards you have for your career

and that would be another thousand yard season. Would you have overall your career, $11,000? No, I had like 97. 9,700 rush in, then I got like 12,000 all-purpose. Yeah, what is your total? Yeah, you were kind of getting taught right there. I remember practicing at Nebraska, we'd always talk about like dances and celebrations

and everyone's doing your fucking. What? God, bro. Yeah, sir. Yeah, yeah, sir. Yeah, massive Titans fans. Yeah. Massive Titans fans.

Me and the Pac-Man, you should do that dance. Man. Dad, that's the talk about in the back of the back field. Listen, do you guys, think that preseason right there? No, that's the first game. Bro, it was my rookie year, Washington came to Tennessee for first game of the preseason. You ended, like, basically, and he hit you too, though, but you fucking hurt his ass. Philip Thomas, he was a rookie of safety from Washington.

You guys met in the hole and fucking he tore his shoulder. Yeah, you hear that, my man? Yeah, pressure. I can't wait to go tell this man, because his kids, they go, they be, sometimes they don't want to drop that shoulder but I be telling them you can hurt somebody doing it man. It'll hurt them way more and it hurts you when you're running that full

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I like them. You like the new ones? Yeah, I like the new ones. And the good thing about it, see, back then, like they lend them, you can wear whatever type of shoes you want and all. Like, we was always trying to wear the red. We were trying to get a red in there, but they wouldn't let us back then. So that's why I had it on the bottom on shoe or whatever. But, yeah, man, I love the new uniforms.

Yeah, they are nice. They got the socks. You only had total, total, I think you already said it. You already said your all-purpose yards, yeah? Yeah, yeah. 9,700. 9,700, how many receiving? No, those are all-purpose as well.

All-purpose, 12,000. All-purpose, $12,000? Yeah. Yeah, because he had 90s. It was 97. 97. I think it's actually 11,000, 396. Derek said like 7,000 right now.

Derek's on his way. What Derek got? Human Calgary. Yeah, yeah. A little over 7,000 right now. 80's at 10, you're at 9 rushing, but yeah, all purpose, 12,000. Right. So, yeah.

So, yeah, man, for me to do that, he got to break my record. Which record? The 2,500? Yes. You think he's got to break that record. How he got 17 games? I did it at 16. Ooh.

Hang on. Hang on. But what I'm saying is, I don't think he's going to touch $25. You said you rushed for $3,000 in college? You had all-purpose? All-purpose, $3,000. It says here it was $2,960.

Yeah, basically, yeah. I'm 40 yards off. Yeah, but you see that, though. Yeah, no, it's solid. Yeah, yeah. First numbers, too. Hey, all I'm saying is like he might not touch the $2,500. No.

Why not? You got 17 games. Yeah, but man doesn't catch like that, Yeah, you know he doesn't catch like that. Huh? If I'm you, that's the exact argument. Okay, so what I'm just saying, if we're talking about, y'all keep saying, y'all keep saying, okay,

we're going to take out the catching aspect. We're talking, okay, so tell me, hold on, wait, tell me this. I don't disagree with you. And I don't, like, I know he watched the show, and that's my boy. But what I'm saying is, right here, look, go back. That's the, that was the four-foot-law? Right here. They can't hold it.

Right there. That's not a hold. at all. That would have been the record record. Yeah. Hey, it's crazy. But listen. Around and he was coming out to sideline,

he was so tired. I hadn't played for weeks at this point. He's talking about it. I'm like, you better get to that. Oh, I know. That's dog shit. Go back.

Go back. Let's see. We can find anything petty. I won't find out of petty. If I'm a backer, I'm like, I just want to be, I just want to. I like, I like Lou, man.

This guy's crazy. Go to the other angle. I want to see it from the back end zone view Yeah, I got to see his right hand I ain't, hey, I'm just being honest Watch his right arm Look at that Oh

That's it But they called that on you? No, that's, I think it's bullshit I think it's bullshit and petty I guess that's what they had to call That's why he'll probably that's Look that mustache on fish, dude This was notorious

That's the right call. Rest the case of the Imerydinger. He's one of those, God. This is a boy right there. Big Mikey. We have a big, that's what I think. Y'all keep saying

that y'all want to pull out the catching aspect, but a lot of times when I look at the game on third down, we got to bring Derek out of the game. So he ain't even playing all the downs. But that's what I'm, no, but that's what I'm telling you, if we're going to talk about, if we're going to talk about the top backs,

you, if you, if you, Yeah. If you start in your organization, right, and you want to build your offense around the back. Yeah. You're going to want to build your offense around the back that you can have on the on field three downs. Don't want to have to put them off every third down.

But as history has showed, they were a game away from the Super Bowl. No, but I'm just saying. In 2008, in 2008, they went 13 and 3. Yeah. And they were the number, what, you guys had a first mile by? Yeah, first of my back. Yeah, he tore his, I mean, he's spraying his ankle.

Yeah. But what I'm saying, but can you answer that question of them? Yeah. Do you want to build your offense around a guy that you can play three downs or two downs? Well, the obvious answer to that is two downs, but you got to look at the body of work that Derek's put now. No, but I'm saying. You'll be. You know these answers you want a guy on three downs and two downs.

So you're saying two downs. Oh, my mom, I meant three. I meant three. I meant three downs, right? Three downs. I was like, why they laughing. What's your answer? I got a question.

I mean, yeah, you want to, you want an every down. back. Period. I mean period. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Hey, I think what's fucking crazy. I'm going to need that space. Well, sorry, my name hurts. Man, look at me.

Bro, you ain't got A-C-O? Yeah, so three downs, right? That's a good argument, but like... Like what? Bro, five years in a row of... Of what? Over a thousand and double-digit touchdowns? Double-digies.

Yeah, I did six. I don't think you had double-digest, though. You didn't have double-digit touchdowns? No, I did, because they did. took me out when we got around by the goal line sometimes. Because you got to put it in Lendell. Exactly, but it's just how we rocking. That's the...

You got put in that smash. I was, yeah, I was benefiting. I ain't mad. And I want to preface this with... Listen, we're all going to be friends at the end of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just make sure it's all good. But you had...

You only had two of those seasons. Only two of them you had double-ditcher touchdowns. Yeah, but you got a thing. I'm the type of... I'm 1-95 or... Whoa, whoa, what hurts Derek on third down. It hurts you on the goal line. No, not really, hey, not really because I can do it,

but you know when you get with the coaches, they want to put a bigger guy in the game. You know that. Do you fault them for that? That's what you kind of. I can do it. Short yardage. I can do it.

Short yardage. Were you in third and one? It depends. Sometimes. Heimer, Dinger, yes. Yes. But then you got to think, after Dinger enough, I had a different offensive coordinator every year,

a different quarterback every year. Right. We didn't have a day. Derry had AJ. For like three years. Exactly. He's a stud. I can't even.

See what I'm saying? He's crushing it for my fantasy team. No, I'm just saying. I want to be boys. No, I'm just saying. All right, all right. Here's a question. You're saying because you rush for 2,000 yards.

So the sole fact that you rush for 2,000 yards, you got to get put over Eddie George, right? Well, yeah, they're saying the criteria. Yes, yeah. All right, so you rush for 2,000 yards, your second year in the league. Yeah. What I'm saying?

Let's say the next year you get hurt, you never play football again. You play two years in the league. Are you still over Eddie George? No, no, I can't say that. That's two years. I can't say that, though. Yeah. But I can't say that.

I only played two years. I wouldn't be able to say I'm better than Eddie George. I play two years. Here's what I'm saying anyway. You're one and Derek's too, but Derek's on his way to become a number one. But you're just saying unless he gets $1,500. He's saying no. He's saying no unless he beats $2,500.

Yeah, he got to be $2,500. And then on top of that, what was it? Derek, first thousand-yard season was year three or four? Three. Three. But again, that's when we were talking about, that's why he was affected in my race. That's what I'm saying.

If he goes three more years over a thousand. Then he's got seven over a thousand. We still talking ifs. We still talking ifs. Here's what I wanted to say. How many you got two? He got two. We did do a little bit for you too with a 70-yard touch.

Who's that, Derek? That's all I'm saying. you see a big, that 937 sucks because he was about to have 2,000 yards in a row. But that's an if, that's an if, that's an if. You're talking right here, right? Yeah. 2,015, 9-197. Yeah.

Yes, but. That 937, that's an 8-d-dage place. Yeah, but, okay. On a broken foot. And 10-10-thous. He had a broken foot. He still ran the whole game. No, Wednesdays talking stats here, though.

We can't wait. It's not a thousand yards. We did it for you with the 70-yard run. No, we didn't. No, we pulled the video and we were like, yeah, you're right. I didn't break the record, though. Give the, because that, that goes into it because it's unfortunate that he got hurt. I didn't get it, though.

But my first six years, I went for a thousand. Not thousands. Like, it was, you know, 12, 13. Yeah, yeah, I saw it. You know what I love the fact that you're here to back him up because if he was by himself right now, it'd be a tough battle. Yeah. And I saw him, I'm stoked.

Look at it. First out to get. That is incredible. You did that in your sales and 13. I just said, $1,000. Hey, and you want to talk about, Hey, then you want to talk about,

bro, right? 111. Hey, look. 811. That last year, that last year, I played on the torn meniscus since week, too.

Oh, yeah. With the last year with 177? I, I, yeah. Toraminiscus that whole year. That three-year stand is nuts coming out of your first year.

Filty, bro. You probably couldn't even walk around Nashville. No. Yeah, it's crazy, man. Dash. But then what I give you, I gave you 9, 14, 11, I got receiving touchdowns too, though, so you say I ain't double-digit,

but I got receiving touchdowns in that, too. It's a fair. Because he had... He's on the will. He had double-digit. I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. I'm not. I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible.

Yeah. Look over here on this 15, 25, 16, 16, 14, 14 14. Those are the total yards. That's that's yeah. $1,000. You were that right. And you basically had double digit your first year because you had a

receiving touchdown. Right. 10, 16, 12, 4. Yeah, that one that's tough. And then he had another double digit in 13. Yeah. On the torn minuses.

Chris, I said my rankings. You're number one, big dog. Yeah, but no, no, no. But nobody George. But. But. Give Eddie some flowers, real quick. I know.

We did kind of throw Eddie at three there. We did. He's got to start it. He's been, he's been in. He's starting and he's got some crazy shit too. But, y'all get, y'all for getting the Earl, man. Yeah, we, yeah, I did specifically keep it a tightens. We can throw them in here.

13, 13, 13, 12, 13, 15, 9. That's nuts. That's nuts. See, now I don't know what to do. We got to get good. It's about, let's at 22. Only one-digit, though. Earl.

O two. You got one time? That one at 22, 15. 14. 13. Y'all got to leave, huh? Yeah. Did you get that, did you drive here?

Did you get an Uber? I got to get over. Yeah, yeah, go ahead and do that. 11. I think you're straight, though. I mean, you're still an hour, 20, yeah, you're good. I would actually leave. How part is there for you?

Huh? Oh, yeah, don't you. He went crazy, too. He did go crazy. But look at the touchdowns. 8, 6, 9, 9, 14, 5, 12, 5, 4. Yeah, y'all talk about me, y'all was saying. Eddie's are three.

No, but he was saying something about the touchdown. Eddie is a big guy, and he only got two double-div. Right. That's crazy. Chris, he fell the number three on my list. He fell the number three. I had double digits as a backup. But a lot of times...

You're still number one. You're number one. Yes, but a lot of times... Lindel White is into the conversation. Yeah, I did have double digits as a backup. Yeah. I wanted to say the whole time. Matter of fact, I broke...

Matter of fact, I broke Eddie's touchdown record for the year. One of the mirrors. I have more touchdowns. I'm pretty... What is... Chris, are you four? I'm just being real. I'm fucking with you.

You know what I? You know what I'm going to do? We don't fucking problems now. You know what I'm saying? Can't be out of 15. And he's at 3.6. With limited. But if we're talking about receiving, too,

he had a double digit with the receiving. I want to see with Derek. It's interesting to with Derek. Look up there. I want to see it right here. That's a great average. That's a great average. Yeah.

That's ridiculous. I mean, what was the Eddie's and what was yours? Five yards of carry. Yeah, he's crazy. That's crazy. Eddie's last year kind of kills him a little bit. But like...

I truly want to get this off my show. Like Sadie's crazy work. What's that? It is nuts. We started a podcast, and one day we would have Lindell White and Chris Johnson on it. We're arguing about them,

Eddie George, Derek Henry, like, who's the best? Yeah. That's awesome. This is nuts, bro. This is hard. Wild. Wild.

There's some stats, boy. What about playoffs? That's running back? Hey, hey, ass white. Whoa! Oh, dude. I like this, dude. Hey, this man, hey, we would have got along so good.

Yeah, we would have. He said, what about playoffs? Right. I'm telling you. Pull them playoffs, though. Who's this right here, Chris? I mean, look at career playoffs, six and a half. We can't get you a picture.

What's that about? Oh, no, they got me at three probably, me. Yeah. One game played, though. One playoff game. I mean, hey. I was a playoff game in Arizona. Harry Collins.

Play a faster out of you and Tyree Kill. All right, and your guys is prime. Me. I can't believe y'all eggs. Like, he's the fat. He had the fastest time, and, like, y'all got to say, like, maybe Rocket Ross, John Ross, because he broke his 40 times. Yeah, John Ross.

If John Ross looked at something the wrong way, he'd get injured. Right. Yeah. Me, of course. That's tough. Who's faster than you? Who's faster? We're talking about you and your prime.

Nobody. On the football field. Nobody. Nobody. You saying cheetahs that's as fast as you? Nobody. Not when my prime, no. You're kind of pissing me off that you're not in your prime anymore because I'm trying to run it.

Yeah, you try to see that, right? I'm at least want to see it going by me. No question. How long am I keeping up? Mountain wide open. Yeah, in prime, yeah, nobody in my prime. What do you think you can run right now? Right now, I probably can run a four-three.

You think you can run a four-three right now. Come on, Chris. Don't do that. What'd you run in the call on? 4-28? 4-24. See what I'm saying? Bro, you always trying to take something about me?

No, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's why I like him. First, eight. We're going to throw one in here, man. Yeah. You think he's running a 4-3 right now?

How many pro-blers you make? He runs three. Same. He knows how to get down and do it. Like, training, work out? I'm saying, like, if that's a little, like, if that's a little, what he needed to do, I'm sure he could probably not.

He said right now. I don't know. Right now? 4-4 is still fast. We had 40 yards out there. We went out right now. You did a little dynamic warm-up. Yeah, I'm going to run a 4-3.

It's only 40 yards. Buddy, I feel like I've already dug a little hole for myself. I don't think it's going to be a 4-3. I would say he could probably run a mid-4-5. He could be a 4-39, but he's still 4-3. I'm saying me and him might be close right now. Right now. Listen, okay.

Hey, Will, Will. Well. Out of the three. Buddy, I'm literally three weeks out of surgery and we're close right now. No, my God. Hey, I guarantee you. Did you have you not check the hip on the kid? What'd you run?

A four or five. At a pro day, bro. That's, that's... Four or five in your prime. You probably didn't run it. I didn't run. I didn't run. You have a friend at 310 pounds.

Hey, listen, out of the three backs, the rankings, I guarantee. I run the fastest 40 out of the three backs right now. You think you're being Derek? Yeah. I don't know. He takes a second. I still stay a little.

Derek was a 4-5 guy, and he's gotten faster, bro. Still thinks he can run a 4-3. So you think Derek can beat me right now? It's a lot different. You think Derek can beat me right now? Jack thinks he's probably beating CJ right now. Yeah, and here's why. Listen, I swear to God, I'm not trying to be sick.

Derek is in, he's in football shape. He's been running. He's been training. He's 27 or 28. What Derek run at the combine? There's 28. I think so. 27, 28.

Yeah, 28. Yeah 28 Silly ass class Yeah but that's Hey but that's another thing What y'all saying Y'all keeps saying

in the next couple of years You know when you get 28 at running back It's like this way You all know that You know when you get 28 At running back But they said

You can't play into your 40s Tom Brady No but we're talking about Running back here So do y'all think Derek got four or five more years I don't know I think with Derek

You get in the ball 30 times a game I don't know You would think so You would think statistically and everything No there's no chance But he hasn't slowed down on it.

No, no, he haven't. I'm riding with my boy and tell you. No, I'm riding with Derek, too. But what I'm saying is... He's been rocking Derek's skin flute all episodes. There's no question. I'm fucking... Hey.

Hey, so, but my thing is, okay. It's kind of going to go back to how it started with Derek at the beginning. That you're saying it's going to hurt him a little bit towards the end. Like, towards the end, like, we know for Derek to be Derek, he got to get 25, 30 carriers. He's got to get at least 20. And back in. Can he say... But what I'm saying is, can he sustain that

the next two, three, four years? I think for sure, two, three years. My man takes care of his body like crazy, bro. Here's what Derek is. No, everybody's take care of their body, but I'm just saying, they'll have to kind of keep an identity kind of like that with Tennessee, and they'll have to obviously extend it. Right, that's what it was.

Right, because, listen, a lot of... But no, but the thing about it is, it's about winning. Yeah, if they win. If we're not winning like that, how long is we just going to keep getting in the ball like that? If we're not winning like that. One four in a row, yeah, yeah. They haven't started out of that.

No, but we're talking about winning. We're not talking about, we're talking about winning Super Bowls. Yeah. If that formula is not working, I'm not saying that Derek can't do it, but I'm saying if that formula is not working, then at some point it's going to be like. Switch it up? Yes. What do you think that?

If it's not working, how long have we been doing it? What are they going to do? No, but I'm just saying at some point. You know what they told me when I got cut? What is that? They said, that's a good point. They said, yeah, we know what I'm saying? We're not saying that you're not a good back or you're not the best back, but we're not winning.

We're not winning. But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. No. What is it? How much you're getting paid the last year? My last year, eight. He held out. Amen.

I was kind of want to ask about that. He held out one year, and then the next year, that's when they ended up releasing. You're right? No, no, no. He was the holdout. No, I held out after. Oh, you held out back to back years. No, I ain't not bad to bad years.

You're lying. I held out after. I mean, he didn't show up to OTAs and stuff until they made sure that the different money was made. So whatever. So after my second year, so after I went, so after I went for 2,000 yards, I was supposed to make, I think it was like 700 or 800 or whatever. You can show your rookie deal. Rookie deal. So they ended up moving the money that I was supposed to make him.

My last year of that contract, they gave it to me. So they gave me five men. That's insane that you got that in your rookie. That's wild. I didn't even know you'd do that. Right, right. Second year, and then in my third year, that's when they paid me. And then you held out in what year?

The third year. The third year. Before the third year, I held out. That's when they paid me. No, after the third year, that's when they paid me. I held out or whatever. But that's what I'm saying. So, like, he said it absolutely didn't make no sense at all.

But they say we weren't winning. So even though I am. I'm a great back. They're saying we're not winning, so. So what are the tights you do right now to be Super Bowl? We need a receiver. We need receivers. Do you think they should have traded AJ?

Hell no. That was by it. I mean, that was. We need a receiver and we need an athletic tight end. You know, he can become, he probably gets a player soon. Yeah. Right now we know. No, we are in a way AJ can do.

Why are we? Yeah. It's a pro bow. Right, but that was, you needed the two sides to come to an agreement. Like, I think. Why not, though? I think AJ made it difficult. Why could we give him that?

Why we, why we? You're paying a quarterback, 25. I mean, you're paying a lot of dudes. In this one, I don't understand. No, no. You got a lot of moves being made. No, we have AJ. Who do you think Jeff Simmons or AJ if you, if you need it?

I don't know. Bro, how do we, but how do, hey. We worry about that when we get there. How do we? Yeah, we're paying you. And then when he comes up, we'll worry about that. How did you from my understanding of this? It was like 30 a year, 29, 30 years.

No, 25. He getting 25 in the Eagles. He got 25 again, but he wanted. Oh, he wanted. Allegedly, from what I've heard. He's getting 25 from the Eagles now. Yeah, but I heard him tweet, no. From what I've heard he was asked for like.

No, I heard, he tweeted and said that that's what he was asking for 25. Yeah, but he probably wasn't. But how do you give a Tannenhill a hundred before you pay Derek? I think they had different parts. I think Tannen was on the last year of his deal. I think Derek got two more years. Yeah. I'm not sure.

I would have to. I would have to war room this thing. You're saying why would they pay 10 and 100 million before Derek? Yeah. I mean, when Derek, Derek wasn't up for his new deal, was he? No, but he had that rest of 2,000 yards. He didn't get paid to after a man. They're going to keep you as long as they can on that rookie deal.

Yeah, that's from a team standpoint. You got to do that. And they needed a quarterback. They needed to bring a quarterback in. And then that's when the Marioata thing happened. So why are you not trade? In that year, when they replaced Marioo with Ten Hill, They went to the EFC Championship.

They did it with Traylon? No. So you give him a hundred? With a pick. Where's O'Dill? Like, yes, what I'm saying? We know he's hurt, but that's what I'm saying? Like, okay, bring Jarvis Landrie and bring somebody and we know is a proven number one.

Robert Wood's before. Man, listen, they disrespect the position, man. That's my guy when he starts feeling good. I think when he's, I don't know, I know them knees are tricky. So, like, I think when Bobby started feeling better, he'll be. I mean, before he got hurt, he rushed. He received a thousand yards four years in a row. Yeah, he's hard.

I think he was on his way to five or either was on his way to four. So you have Bobby Trees with AJ. But, bro, last year you had Derek Henry, AJ Brown, and Julio Jones. Yeah. Not everybody was really on the field at the same time. Yeah, never. But no, that's why I say that he's doing the same thing right now.

Is he doing it now? This is fucking awesome, boys. Yeah, it was. It's got to end right now. We'll have to do it again. We'll have to collab again. We'll have to. We'll be back soon for show, y'all.

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