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Episode Date: October 25, 2022

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A lot of turkey turkeys in my life. I'm seeing a bunch of stars right now. I'm seeing stars, but vibes are high. And I want to think the vibes down for a second. Are we going to talk about it? I think we should talk about it. Do you want to tell the people what we should talk about? Halloween ends.

The most abysmal slasher movie that has been made. Now, I'm talking on my ass a little bit right there. Like, I'm already thinking of some middle ones. ones that could be thrown out to the wayside. I guess the expectation compared to what it was, the reality of it, is where this emotion comes from. Because it's as bad as it can get.

Like, that movie was not good. As bad as you can get. There's been a lot of bad horror movies out there. Some low budget pieces, some fucking offshore, whatever. And Friday, Friday, 13th, Jason literally goes to outer space in one of them. It goes to outer space.

And that movie's better than Halloween ends. Yeah. That's how fucking bad this movie was. Again, because of the anticipation, like, everybody, like, this is it. Like, how is it going to end? And the way they try to turn it out another story in it, I know we're about to get into it,

but John Carpenter and the entire writing team over at a Halloween end's movie should be fucking ashamed of themselves. They really should. I've had multiple people say that we could write a better movie. We could. I have no doubt about it. I know I'd say some, like, funny, cocky, true shit,

but I have no doubt in my mind. Funny, cocky, true shit. But I have no doubt in my mind that we can write a better movie. There's no doubt about it, dude. Literally the entire, the movie is so ridiculous. For the first 45 minutes, I'm literally thinking to myself, where the fuck is Michael? Yeah.

What's going on? Also, if you haven't seen it, you're waiting on outwein or something, there are a sports. This is going to be all, yeah, this is going to be spoiler alerts, boys. Because it's, it's been out for three weeks, dude. It's been out for three weeks in the movie so bad. We went on Friday. And there was our group and two other people in the theater.

Yeah, we got the private theater for a hundred $140. $140. I mean, the snacks were like $300, but yeah. Yeah, we did get a lot of snacks.

We fucking went off on this. But let's go through why this movie was so fucking garbage. In the beginning of the movie, first off, do you hang on, hang on, how do we want to set this up,

do I just need to... No, no, no, no, this is a back and forth. This is not me. I see you got to... I got some notes because halfway through the movie I started taking notes

about how fucking upset I am. Right, right, right. And I needed to make sure I kept all my memories. In the beginning of the movie, this young lad, this young 21-year-old individual goes to babysit for a family

who has one son. They go to a party. The son, hey, listen, he gets scared at night. He's been potting in the bed quite a bit. It's a bit of a deal. And he talks about screaming like Michael Myers. He's having night tears or something like that. So you're thinking, oh, shit,

like we're getting right back into the classic babysitter situation. I love it. Kids being an absolute shit stick. Like, seriously, those parents have done a terrible job raising him. He's fucking yelling at Buddy. Buddy's showing him a horror movie.

It's one of those old bad VHS-type horror movies. he goes, gets himself a cake making the cake. He's all of a sudden hears a bunch of commotion going on. Goes upstairs, three flights of stairs. Now, Corey, that end of the 21-year-old individual, finds himself in like some sort of attic situation. Six cents. Six cents.

Yeah. He goes in the attic and all of a sudden the door slams on and that's when he think, here he comes. Yeah, it was a scary first thing. That's when Michael Myers is going to fucking, that's what he's going to come out of nowhere. I don't know what he's doing in an attic, but I'm not here to ask questions.

I'm just here to enjoy. the cinema. Fucking, all of a sudden, door locks, he starts banging on. You hear the little kid on the other side, he starts knocking. Freaking out knocking. Hey, buddy, this is not funny. What the fuck are you doing? As that's all happening, cut to a different scene, the parents are coming home.

They get out, they're talking, they seem a little tipsy, but out two tipsy because they're responsible adults. They're walking back in the door. I was excited that they got home. Oh, yeah. I'm excited to see just absolute massacre chaos. Like, let's pick up where we left off on Halloween kills. Yeah.

Let's fucking get right back into that. the door opens, the mom's looking, she hears a commotion upstairs. All she hears is, I think the kid's name's Joey. We'll just call him Joey. I'm going to fucking kill you, Joey. Kicks the door, door opens, hits the kid.

Kid follows down three flights of stairs, breaks his neck dies. Mom starts screaming, and I think to myself, what a treat we're in for. What an absolute treat we are fucking in for. And for the next 45 minutes, this movie wants to fucking go into this guy Corey's life.

And fucking Lori Stroud's granddaughter who just got out of a breakup with some 45-year-old cop. They're not even close to the same fucking age. Not even close. Like, probably should call the police on him on that, right? But he is the police. So you got a bit of a deal there.

Buddy is like getting, he's being treated like a parasite from the whole team. Now here's where shit really starts to fucking turn for me. And just know when I say this, I'm not coming at individuals. Buddy's at the gas station. grabbing a fucking chocolate milk,

comes out of the gas station, and who gets out there? The big, bad marching band. The fucking band kids, dude. The fucking band kids come out. They got a kid with a Theo Vaughn mullet that's fucking yeah on the fucking forehead. Like, could not look worse.

Twirling one single drumstick. Where's the other one, bud? You need two to play. Where the fuck is the other one? Some kid, for those you don't know, Haddonfield is in Illinois. Not Chicago, Illinois. Like some fucking suburb.

Northeast or some shit like that. It's random as fuck. You got salty earth, Midwest people there. This fucking Italian kid starts walking out like he's from New York or something talking about this fucking guy, that fucking guy gets out of his

convertible Lexus or whatever it is. And they bully the band kids. Fucking bully this Corey guy. The trailer park van tally milk out of his hand. They push him to the ground falls. Ah, my hand.

Don't want to see you around here again type shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, what is a New Yorker doing here? What the fuck is going on? It's absolutely ridiculous. Lori Shott comes and saves him. It's just the whole thing. Will, I've been talking a lot.

Is there anything you want to add up to this point? No, I mean, you're doing a phenomenal job telling the story. Are we going through the entirety of the movie? I mean, I think... Like, are we just trying to pick off things that we hated about it? Like, yeah, getting beat up by the trailer park marching band is brutal. The trailer park drumline is brutal. Buddy, they're younger than him and they're at the gas station wearing their outfits.

We're not trying to take shots at the marching band guys out there. We're not saying you're not tough, but you should not be getting fucking bullied by these marching band kids, too. And I thought the marching band usually has higher character individuals. Higher character individuals. And I know it's 2022 and we're starting to rewrite stigmas and all that shit. Listen, there's different kinds of people in this world. We can't be all clumped together, right? Jocks are assholes.

Not saying there aren't some band guys that are fucking dicks. I'm not saying that. But I'm sure shit, I'm not saying that some 24-year-old adult is getting beat up by a four band kid. That's what I'm fucking saying, dude. Two girls, two boys. Like, getting laughed at. Getting laughed at.

But it takes off, like, you even telling that story, like you're telling a story about something that has zero to do with the Halloween franchise. Yeah, the first time we see Mike Myers is 45 minutes into the movie. They got him in a sewer like he's the fucking it clown. Dude, the fucking it clown.

He gets pushed off a bridge. Another encounter he has with the marching band. Like, are there fucking 17 people in this goddamn town? These kids push him off. Then they're like, oh, Billy, whatever the fucking Italian kid's name is. You killed him. He's fine. He fell.

You saw him fell. That's my story. Guy wakes up, probably has significant brain damage, and then decides to go into the sewer. He got drug into the sewer. Excuse me. By Mike Myers in front of the homeless guy. Yeah, and the homeless guy is singing whatnots to himself the whole time. It's all frustrating.

He gets in the sewer. And the first thing you're thinking is, finally. fucking finally we're going to be able to see Mike Michael Myers who does not care about anybody will kill anyone you could help him you could hurt them your throat's getting slit here's a couple creaks

get some gooseies on the old forearms he starts walking towards that circle looks to his right and starts getting fucking choked out by Michael you see the mask for the first time and you're like this movie's got a fucking chance to make it this movie's got a chance to write the ship and what happens next

some sort of bullshit Some sort of bullshit collage of fucking all the things that Corey's been through, not Michael. Some individual we don't even give a fuck about. Corey, it starts flashing on Michael's eyes and Michael lets him go. Like all of a sudden Michael's possessing cat? It's like he's just passed the evil to him like some STD that got transferred. Dude. And bro.

But for real, he just grabbed him by the throat, pass some evil on to him and now this dude's what, possess? He goes from like a goody two-shoes kid to where he's like, now he murders the homeless guy right out. What was the chick's name, the granddaughter? Alison, Allison. Allison, I don't know what's wrong with me. Like, I killed a guy. And then he just gets progressively worse. And then you're going over and slaughtering the doctor and the fucking, the new little higher.

But not even the doctor dude. It's tag teaming with Michael. What are they do after high five and walk away? Bro. That shit made me. It was brutal, bro. Like Michael Myers has one fucking in game. And that's kill Louis Stroud.

And anybody in his fucking path, he wants to kill people. Not play chess. Like, okay, I might die soon. let me pass the lineage off to somebody else. No, he's possessed by the devil himself. He is evil when you look into his eyes. And shame on Alyssa, or whatever the fucker name is, Allison, shame on her who meets this guy, Corey, they like each other.

The span of this movie is four days long. The span of the movie is four days long. She's known Lori Stroud for how long they've been through how much. And all of a sudden, three days into it, she's like, you don't fucking know. Like, you need to move on. Like, bro, it's obvious that Lori's gone through therapy, and all of a sudden it's taking Halloween. It's the biggest nightmare of her life.

and now they have traditions where they make pies? Where they fucking make pies together? Oh, I burnt the pie. It's a tradition. It's a tradition. I have to. Doors unlocked. Doors unlocked.

It's on the corner now. Went from living in a trap house, literally trying to trap Michael in this fucking house, to live in that suburban bullshit life. Doors unlocked? That's fucking crazy. And no one's seen Michael. Telling they caught his ass.

He's still fucking out there. There's a four-year time gap. But still, No, he's seen the prison a long time ago. Not buttoning up the last movie by showing some type of old scene to where there's a transition to where he, maybe he's fucking hanging with the hit clown in the sewer. There's just none of that. Like, that's where he starts.

Then they go into this other story with this other kid, trying to make something out of it, ultimately to kill him all. It was just brutal, bro. Some bullshit romantic story between Lori and the sheriff that goes nowhere. Coach Yose who has more work done than a Barbie doll. Yeah. He needs to go back and coach the fucking Titan. That's what he needs to do. 100%.

Blitz all fucking nights. Yeah, he needs to go back to shit like that, dude. He's just sitting there the entire movie Horny for Lori Stroud. Horny. Horny for Lerney. He has to bring over the garden, which, by the way, at the end of the movie, when he brings to the garden, he brings her carrots. Yeah, carrots and green. It's a spring vegetable.

You don't fucking, that's not when they come out in the fall. What's he doing making carrots in the fall? It makes no fucking sense, dude. And here's what really fucking piss me off. When Corey starts going on his little, like, exorcism tyrant thing, he fucking goes back in the sewer. and grabs Michael. Michael's just standing there like a slug. Just bitched him.

Like, and bitch him. You're just a guy in a mask. And then it shows them wrestling for a little bit, pinning Michael to the ground and taking his mask. How do you go from getting beat up by the drumline to then you can take Michael Myers in a wrestling match and take his mask from him and leave? How?

Bro. Michael Myers got jumped by the entire town at the end of Halloween kills. Stabbed, shot, beating with a goddamn bat. And what he do? Slid all their throcks. He killed them all. Not even And it wasn't even fucking close, bro.

It wasn't even close. Allison's got to do a lot of fucking She's got to do a lot of therapy. She's got to figure out who's on her fucking side and not Because that's just ridiculous. I mean, it's just a brutal movie. It was just a bad movie. Every part of it is.

As soon as Michael showed empathy, I was like, I'm done. I actually wanted to leave the theater. He would lean over and goes, Michael never shows empathy. This movie's fucking stupid. Corey had a higher kill count than Michael. Is that a stat you wanted to hear today? No, it's not. That fucking hurt.

I've been down about it the entire weekend because, again, we love Halloween on Bustin with the boys. We fucking love Michael Myers. I worked my ass off to turn Taylor into more of a Michael Myers guy. We wear the mask every year. And it's like you end the franchise that way. I just, there's zero closure. And Danny McBride, look, I don't know.

I know John Carpenter's the big name on there. But knowing that Danny Bride's associated with that, like, it hurts me a little. I don't even know Jimstone. He helps create and write that. That was a baby bride. And he comes out with that. Like, what are we doing? What are we fucking doing in this movie?

You know how you pass that story, that storywriting in and be like, this is it. Yeah. This is a banger. Yeah. I thought Halloween Kills was a good movie for the sole reason that it's between a three. No, it's like, one, I thought was better than obviously the other two. Two, it was like, that's a great movie because it's setting up three.

Now we got to wait, we got to be excited. And then they put this fucking bullshit at us. And it's just hard to be excited. It's hard to go through the rest of Spooked over and watch one of your heroes get bitched by some bitch. Like knowing every year from here on out, the legacy of Michael Myers, we're going to see all the videos,

everybody's going to be excited around October. Every year, it's the Michael Myers mask. And we're going to have to be like, it's all over. Like nothing else is coming out because they ended it the way that they do. Yeah, but they'll pick it up in about four or five years. James Carpenter won't, but they'll have like another person. There's fucking 15 of those things. It might be me.

It might be us. I might pick that up. We might have to pick that up and write those movies. We might have to. Call Cam. We could. We really could. We could write those movies.

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That's a good question. I was not prepared for, Blas. I like the way the movie ended was how I wanted it to end. Yeah, you do got to have like some type of event to, kill off Michael Myers. I did, I did not mind that. The whole town gets together. They throw them in that fucking grinder. Yeah. That's how you have to do it. However, when she's cutting them up, you do got to just go, why aren't you taking the head off or going

right after the head with your knife? Like all of these years, why are you not stabbing this motherfucker in the head? Right. You're still playing with them. You're wanting to pin him down with your knives. Fortunately, it worked out, but for the love of God, like, learn from your mistakes. Yeah. Because that was, the whole movie was God awful. The ending was good. Yeah Which is

It's up to step It was decent Another good part of the movie Because when Lori Stroud finishes her book Calls and says I want to report of suicide It says her own address

I'm really thinking In my head like Bitch like You just Overtame so much Your life A chess move And she

You all of a sudden You hear a gunshot A big explosion And the door open And the guns pointed At the camera You think I'd really kill myself Boom boom

Binks his ass twice Outstanding Now the way Lori handled Allison coming in the door, bitch-ass move. She starts crying and shit. It's like, listen, hey, whoa. Before you close that door, your boyfriend, you obviously see the Michael Myers mask right there and he's wearing a

fucking jumpsuit. He was obviously trying to get me, right? So before you run away, just know that this is a bit of a situation I had to deal with that you're coming to the conclusion of right here. You should have listened to me this entire time. Yeah. Like, I was right. I'm sorry, you loved them, but she's over there groveling with Corey. You've known him for

four days. Yeah. I think maybe ways you do it, you tied all the way back into the original back in, what was it, 1978? Yes. You could tie it all the way back into where she maybe is living the suburban life, but she's struggling to live it. She's going through therapy trying to like... Has a PTSD.

Yeah, like, give her... She's trying to, like, rid all these demons by, like, writing her book and doing all that stuff. And Michael Myers, maybe you figure out a way to where he's been away for four years, but on this Halloween week, like, you still had the anxieties of like, yeah, maybe you make a pie, but you're still like a gun's close to you. Yeah. And you play out kind of the original format from the OG to where maybe the,

the granddaughter's wanting to do something on that night or take him trick or treat and you kind of do some of those same plots to tie it into the original. And maybe you play out that one of those final scenes where he's like you really think I'd kill myself to where Michael's driving that fucking a car, a little beater car around just like he did in the first one

and getting on to kind of like what they're going to do for Halloween to where he can go in and finally kill Lori Strout because he knows it's a one-on-one fight and then Lori gets them and dupes him that way at the end. But maybe you don't, you got to keep it simple. It's like the formula when the coaches teach you when you're in the team room.

Keep it simple, stupid, the kiss method. We'll keep it simple this week, boys. All the complexity, all these little, we're not trying to get too cute by doing a little storyline with a boy who's going to become the next Michael Myers. You got to keep it simple. You've got to get back to like tie it into the original movie if you're going to end them that way. You've done three movies.

The original Halloween, Halloween kills. You need to start Halloween ends where Halloween kills ended. There's a big frantic. Where is he? I thought you had them. Some sort of freak out. And then a year goes by, not four fucking years. That's ridiculous.

I agree with that. I agree with that. You go through one year. And in that year's span, you can touch on the stuff that the real fans want to see. I want to see Lori Stroud's backstory. I want to see Allison's parents come back and what was her dynamic in life. And you know what I want to know most about? Talk to me about Michael Myers.

Well, that Allison's parents dead? Yeah, they were killed in the first one. But like, show flashbacks. Oh, okay. Show flashbacks of Michael Myers. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, I can't believe he's gone. Like, why can't we find him?

No one can find him, blah, blah, blah. You know what he did in the psych ward, right? And then it shows a little kid getting put in the psych ward, all the crazy shit he did. Show me 20 minutes of that. Let me invest more and have more knowledge about Michael Myers. And then all of a sudden, October 31, October 31st, 2021. Right?

And you're right back in it. And then it's no longer Lori Stroud now living this, like, neighborly life. She's tried to move on. that span of time you were learning about Michael and learning about the backstory stuff, she's now in a suburb house, and she's having a struggle. She calls her therapist a few times

because she's been going to a bunch of meetings. But for whatever reason... Halloween again, he's still out there. We never killed him. We don't know if he's going to come out. Everyone's like, you're acting crazy. He's gone. Like, he's gone.

And it's like, the only thing you think at that part of the movie is like, bitch, they're obviously not gone. Like, it's been a year. She has a reason to be upset, but everyone's kind of moved on. Everyone's kind of moved on. Not this fucking I survived bullshit.

It's like, you fucking know. no one else knows. He comes back and starts slaughtering cats. And you make Corey, this guy who's the main character of this movie, make him an extra and put him in the grinding thing. Make him still be a boyfriend to Allison or Alyssa. Yeah. Who's been through dramas as well? Trying to get her to come out to like some Halloween party night. Like I don't know. She goes, Lori's a little like uneasy about it doing it. Like you know it's only been a year. Right. But Allison's doing her best to move on. And she goes, Lori, you got to move on. Grandma, you got to move on. And maybe and maybe Corey dresses up. Maybe it's not. the white blanket like the first one where it's like, oh, we're getting

the boyfriend's dressing up and then Michael Myers because it comes in and kills her. It's a phenomenal pole. Maybe he's dressing up to try and get a little naughty and you still play into the old one. Because you have people who've seen the original go, hey, that's when he's fucking good thing. After the two people had sex, they stand there. Yeah. Dude, with the fucking glasses on and everything. That's what

you fucking do. You throw it, and then you still have the opportunity to throw the babysitter situation in with Corey. Who's his new boyfriend after a year later? Oh, he's dealt with trauma too. This is a five-minute clip of his traumas. This is what he's been through. Now, know we're kind of in this triangle of mess right now trying to find that last

dot to make it a square because you know Michael's out there doing some crazy shit. He's out there fucking trying to ruin everything. Those ban people, maybe a few of them complain to. Maybe they're just part of like the friend group. Yeah. Not like bad people, but maybe they're, you know, the marching band kid, okay, 2020 you let a marching band guy wear the Letterman jacket. Yeah. And they go out to a party.

They go to a house party. And at the house party, they're like, wouldn't be crazy if he came back. Man, you know that's all ghost story shit. No, he ain't around. He's dead now. Everyone knows he's dead, but he's at the fucking party. Yeah. And he's watching everyone on. Yes. Yes, bro.

Maybe that band kid still just bullying somebody else. Oh, you know that's just old stories. Yes. And then there's a phone call. Lori hears enough shit. She hears about a couple of murders going on. She calls, what's his name? Coach of the Titans.

Coach Yost. She calls Coach Yost. He's ready to go with the gun in the back of the truck. No, he's not. He's the one in the beginning telling her, listen, you got to move on. Like, you've got to move on. Now he's gone. She calls him.

It gets real dramatic. There's a fucking, the camera zooms in on her face just a little bit. Some dim music. And she goes, he's back. And you hear, do do do do do do and do. And then it shows him as the camera's panning away and him like, and then he goes, I'll get my gun. And then they fucking go after his ass.

And the movie ends the same way as this one did. Just like how the crew of people are chasing him around town in the first one. They're like, oh, there he is, and they're all firing their guns off. Maybe you have a similar scene, maybe not that dramatic. Yeah. But yeah, you tie it all back into where Michael,

for whatever reason gets Louis Stroud alone at her house that she's in. And I'd like to report, blah, blah, blah, and then fucking off. We're not awesome right there. That would be outstanding. Then you dramatically send them off the way that they did at the end and maybe tighten that a few loose screws. No, I think that's great how there's a big man hunt for him

and then she's at her house and she's like upset. And then you think, okay, there's a reason why she's... I can't do this anymore. I'm ready to off myself. Because her PTSD, she just can't get over the hump of therapy. He can't get over the hump, dude. She can not get over the hump. Boom!

He comes in and you really think I kill myself. Boom! Got his ass! Dude, we just wrote the... Bro, Big Bing! Dude, you fucking... Buddy. Also, with the cop being completely out of age for Allison,

what about the mom of the kid who died at the beginning being at that fucking high school party just getting wasted with like 20 year old. Yeah, and then she's like, oh, you're going to be out here having fun? And it was, yeah. And what a weird little dance like weird little like, he's on the ground? He's on the ground doing that fucking little meeting, dude? They're doing back

and forth with each other. Then he just storms off and the next day can we talk and she just blows them off like they've been in a five-year relationship. That's a great fucking point. Yeah. Hey, listen, I lost my shit. We talk. Yeah. It ain't that dramatic boss. Yeah. It's not that. It's not that. deep. Like you act like we've been in this five-year relationship.

Right. You think there's a ring on my finger right now. Like we just fucking met. That was their first date. Yeah. Buddy. I feel a whole lot better now. We got a lot off of chest. I do. I feel a whole Cam, I hope you're listening to this episode, brother. We got to get on this. Write it up, dude. Because we kind of wrote it. Dave's playing Michael.

Yeah, that's fine. I don't know. I wouldn't even think we'd be in it. But you feel Michael. Yeah. Bro, if we're going to write the scripts, we're going to be in. Like, let me die. You can kill Michael Marcy. Oh, that'd be sick. Well, I just want to be like a disney. I just want to be like a distant extra. Like I'm just randomly out there somewhere. Really?

Yeah, to where people are like, oh, there's fucking playoff Willie, year 10. In the gym somewhere. Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm in the gym. Yeah. Fuck. tweeting something? Bro, I literally saw it on Netflix. Michael Mars ain't here?

I just tweeted. You just talk about me tweeting something? But he's always on social media. He didn't fucking know what's going on right now. Oh shit. You all see Michael's back? He fucking shows him. I'm trying to tell everybody.

Get the fuck out of here, playoff Willie. Yeah, go down a small little hallway. something like a little alleyway and you just getting fucking murked right there. Oh shit! Look one of those. That'd be solid. That'd be fucking solid. I saw Netflix. I was watching a spook. I was watching Texas chainsaw masker.

And I had a lot of that shit too. And it was a really, really cringy part in the movie where like some thicker Asian cat like the leather face gets on the bus and he's got a chainsaw on his hand. And there's like 20 people. And they all pull out their phones and one Asian guy goes, do anything buddy, you're canceled. And he murders

everyone. And I thought that movie's so fucking bad. It's such a terrible movie. And I legit would watch the movie 10 times before I'd watch Halloween ends again. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like hour 10 or something like that. It's quick, fast pace, some brutal kills in there.

The ultimate threat. Yeah. Do anything else you're getting canceled. Dude. I thought the worst. Oh, nice shinsaw, sir. Do anything else? You're getting canceled.

Buddy, it was so fucking bad. And Will drove me. And that car right home was so goddamn quiet. Bro, it was just deep size. It was a lot of size. It was like a... Because we knew we had to wait until we got on the pod. We did talk about a couple things, but it was just a lot of disappointment.

Did we miss anything? Because it was one of those things where you knew what the reviews were, sort of a little bit. Like, everybody was chiming in. Oh, sorry, T's and Peas. Like, what a brutal movie. Like, you saw the reviews. Yeah. And I just knew going into it, like, I'm easier.

I'm an easy crowd. I'm as easy. I want to hold out hope that it's like, I'll still find some. Yeah, buddy, we were literally talking about it on the way there. We're like, hey, the reviews are bad. But I told Will, I saw one of the reviews that go into a lot of backstory,

which fires me up as a fan of the whole thing, getting to learn a little bit more. Yeah. So we were excited. We're like, we're going to find something that allows us to leave, like, happy. And I hope the writers, James Carpenter, like, Jamie Lee Curtis, that are name?

Jamie Lee Curtis, I hope those people who, when they watch this podcast, like they will eventually do. They don't take this as a threat to never come on the bus. I hope they come to give us their argument why they thought that was a good idea. That's all I want to hear. Like I want somebody, whether Stan McBride, preferably him,

any of the writers to come on and talk about like why they thought that that was a good plot, like that why they thought that that was a good storyline. That shit was garbage. Like John Carpenter's name's like the whore master because I had to look him up. I was like, I got to tag a couple of these people. A lot of them don't have Twitter.

good on them. Yeah, they're smart to do that. I'm trying to come for all of them on Twitter, but we need to get John Carr. We need somebody to Zoom in and talk about why they thought that that was good. Like truthfully, like, come on, you half-assed it, brother. Like, let's be honest. Hold yourself accountable.

We'll all be better for it. Just tell people you fucked up. Let's redo it. Some people were saying that COVID got in the way and possibly had them thinking too much about what they originally had. Blas, did you not hear these last 20 minutes? Like, you don't have to overthink this. this game, brother.

I understand. Yeah, no, I know you're just trying to deliver all. Just trying to play a little media. The best thing about the Halloween thing is the story's written for you. Like, just do a similar plot as the original movie was. Do a similar plot because it's going to make all the true fans extremely excited. Yeah, the nostalgia. Yeah.

Because you're not trying to rewrite the game. The game's been written. You're just writing the ending now. Now, the ending did a phenomenal job with it. That's why I thought Screamed 2020 did a good job. I thought a lot of the screams probably the best, most well-rounded. Yeah, I agree. I agree with that.

Yeah. They do a good job. And there's always a new killer, but it's always intertwined of why that person's the new killer. You're playing a game of clue the whole time. Does your person have a mustache? Like, stuff is shit like that, dude. Like, boom. You know what I'm saying?

Does your person do a good job. Mustache? That's guess who. Oh, is that guess who? Yeah. You first got a mustache started knocking them all down. Yeah. Oh, dude.

Yeah, but what else, dude? Some more stuff. That's it. In college ball, you guys had a bye week. we had a by week as well. Double by week. Double by week? But our secondary team...

Yeah, I thought you said one early. Well, we played week zero. Okay. We played week zero. Which didn't count. Foreign soil. Yeah, foreign soil, that game didn't count. But as far as taking care of your body,

we got a second biweek in there, which is crazy. I think it's our second biweek in a month. We need to rest up for this back out of the season because the fight for the West... It's wide open. It's running through Illinois. And I tried telling you,

I've tried telling you about Illinois. They're a decent fool. they're a soft football team. Sounds like it. They're sound. They have culture. Yeah. A good culture.

A lot of big things have happened. Tennessee continues to show that they truly are like a top three team in the country. Yeah, they really are. Like no hangover from the game, from being Alabama, which I was like, oh, they might drop a little bit here. Like maybe they'll just win like 30 to nothing here. Who'd they play? Art. Yeah.

But you know what? It doesn't matter. They came in and did exactly what a top three team should do. You know those coaching speeches? Yeah. Hey, guys, it's not even about the opponent. It's respect the game. Yeah.

Respect the game. It's about us. Yes. Because they would love to come in here and ruin your entire day. Yeah. This is their Super Bowl. Yeah. Because it's no longer in Tennessee.

It's not about making a bowl game anymore. It's about getting the Natty. Yeah. It's about getting the natty. And they handled fucking business. They handled fucking business, dude. There you go. It's all intertwined Tennessee and Michigan, dude.

What were the big headlines coming out of college football? Big losers? A&M. A&M was down bad. Hey, hats off to you, J.P. You tried telling everybody about South Carolina. You guys are a respectable four and two right now. Go Cox.

You guys are a respectable four and two. Go Cox. TCU's legit. Yeah. I tell you what. The horn frogs, huh? That's why I hate college ball, man. Kansas State was in control of that game.

I will. Let's re-write that. I'm sorry. I say that. That's why I have trouble with college ball. I got you. Yeah. What did I say?

That's why I hate college ball. I appreciate that. I got you. It comes from a place of like, Dude, bet the bus was, we were crushing on Saturday. And I was about to head to bed. Kansas State was up like 28 to 10, like controlling the game. And all of a sudden I wake up, the overheads, obviously, like we said, I don't bet the bus.

Yeah. But TCU ends up winning that game. It's like it can just, it can just swing at any moment in college football. LSU? LSU, we needed that one. That was a swing that we enjoyed. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, old miss, frauds. But we knew that. We knew that. We knew that going into it. Yeah, who we thought they were. Yeah. Your boy, what's up? Go ahead.

I was going to say your boys were, what were we four and two in college, four and one in the NFL? If people aren't coming on bet the bus and just using all their money on, on bet the bus and just diving into that at this point, it's like you're kind of, well, you're riding everything for him.

You all are writing everything that needs to happen. It was our lot, Clemson, right? The Syracuse plus 13. Yeah, Syracuse plus 13 and a half on Clemson, which was almost, JP's money line almost hit. But that was so, that was like fucking, we couldn't have served it up any better. The first turnover happened, they took it to the house. It was like, we knew this was going to happen. It's just a matter of when and how.

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Can we go, sitting on college football because I see you looking at the list of things we have to talk about. What's the line on Michigan, Michigan State? Oh, hey, it is. Hey, but yeah, before we get out of college, Michigan, Michigan State week, brother. This is a huge week for Michigan State. For us, it's another week, dude. We don't give a fuck.

They are so below us. Michigan State is so below Michigan at this point. They've fallen so far from Mark D'Antonio. They are literally garbage, an absolute cesspool, a sewer of a college, and that's tough for them, but they're going to have to catch these hands because they did upset us last. year. They're going to have to catch the hands, and I will be living my best life come Saturday

around 7 p.m. I'll be living my best fucking life. I don't know what the, no, no, 7 p.m. at the end of the day. I don't know when they play. I think they play at noon. I'll pull it up here, Jackie, boy. Yeah, what's the line on that boy? The question I do want to ask, you want to go, you want, that's the, that's the angle you want to go in on. I would almost think you want to, you want to make sure them boys are still hyping focused, the Michigan boys. What is it? What is it? Michigan? 21 and a half. 21-half, I would, I would bet that.

I would bet Michigan minus 21 and a half, and I put the bank on it, dude. I put the fucking bank on that. Because here's what I want to happen. They're going to win by 35, I guarantee that. But not only they win by 35, they're going to go for two at the end. Because fuck Michigan State, dude.

They're going to go for fucking two. It's in the big house. Yeah, it's 23, minus 25. You go, you sit, dude, I know what I said last year. I know I stood on that podium and I said a bunch of things. But I posted it today, didn't I? I fucking put it on Twitter today, didn't I? I am not backing down from that.

Last year was a fluke. They should have never won that game. Aidan Hutchison had that safety. That should have been, that game should have been over from the beginning. Why is this giant-ass flying here? Jesus Christ, like a horse. Like Jumanji in here, but that thing is fucking huge. Oh, did you get him?

No. Your 10, here 10. That's tough. That was left-handed. Like, if I would have my right. You know. I can obviously tell the boys aren't that into it. They're not.

You guys are about it. I am to it. I'm just over. I'm a little taken back by your strategy because you guys lost the Michigan State last year. Yeah, we lost to Michigan State last year. I think they're focused. I don't got to be focused on shit. I'm focused on being present with you right now and talking about how they're going to donkey them on Saturday.

Yeah. We're all go blue here. Well, put this on your fucking bulletin board. We got to respect the game. Respect the game. No, no, no. This is a rivalry game. There's no, no sleeping on them this year.

We're going to donkey the fuck out of them. Rest easy knowing it's going to be over 25 points. No problem. And I would bet everything on that. I hope so Trust me I hope so Might be a little crazy

On this right now I got a lot to learn embedding I got a lot to learn Am I got a lot to learn Am I got a lot of thinking to do Come Wednesday

I might sit in on that Here we go Here we go Oh no There's no chance Oh he's stuck He's stuck Get his ass

Get his ass He's up He's behind you Will He's circling you will Oh he's Oh you oh You stunned him You stunned him

Get his ass Well, watch my foot. Watch my leg. Watch my leg. He's behind you. He's up in the air. Oh, he's back? Yeah.

Well, he, hey. You saw it, though. We can check the tape. He fell down. Mom had been watching too many Rocky videos. You got hit and kept fucking going, dude. What did I tell you about the, hey, what I tell you about the right hand, too? It's quick.

It's quick. We'll see it soon in Atlanta. We'll see it soon. In due time, boys. In due time. There's a lot I need to learn about betting. I know that I've never bet in my entire life. I can't wait to start with the boys.

It's a fun world, man. But I will say. So I feel like people question a few of my like moves. Like why would you do this? I'm thinking, I mean, honestly, I don't know, but we're winning. So I think you should listen to me. I don't know. We're winning.

That beginner's luck's moving in, huh? No, we didn't have beginners luck. I think we're getting the whole experience luck. Oh, really? Yeah. What's that quote about luck? The harder I work, the luckier I get. Say that again in the microphone, JP.

The harder I work, the luckier I get. Must go, kid. That's fucking huge. Moot NFL? You want to transfer over the NFL? Yeah. Oh, I thought we were slow clapping. What?

You want to slow clap over? In a 4-0. More importantly, Tyler Heineke, dude. Taylor Heineke. Taking Taylor Heineke. Taken down Aaron Rogers. Those boys don't mess around, dude. That's fucking huge.

The boys on a four-game win streak. That's, I think that's number one. Did you see the video of Raib and Ben Jones is having just the most incredible? Ben Jones had a flu game. You guys didn't know? Ben Jones played a flu game yesterday. Ivy.

I'm going to get murdered for talking about it. But that man, the epitome of toughness and grit, dude. Played the entire game with a GI bug or something. My man was not feeling good. Texted him after the game. I said, you all right? I was worried about you when he was just sitting up. I thought, man, something's really got to be wrong.

Because usually Ben's in agonizing pain, you're like, okay, he's going to be fine in five minutes. But the fact that he was just sitting there, I was like, I'm worried. I'm worried about my boy. And he comes to me, he's like, yeah, I got sick. had this going on, blah, blah. My man played through the entire game. He's a fucking dog.

Let's get a moment of sounds for Ben, shall we? Toughest guy I've ever played with my life. No question. Ben Jones. Shout out to Ben on that. The boys are on a four-game heater. Four-game heater. They were calling for everybody after two games, weren't they?

They were calling for everybody, but, but with the boys. We weren't. We knew. We were hitting the panic button. We fucking definitely were not hitting the ban of button. Ever since we lost our boy. Stop doing. I already knew you're going to do this shit.

Ever since we lost our board, Taylor Luan, the Titans have been winning in his name. This season is dedicated to Taylor. I think the Titans are making that clear. Boys, if we get a moment of silence for Taylor Luan, rest in peace, brother. You can't do two moments of silence in like three seconds.

The Titans are fucking playing, are playing their hearts out for you. R-I-P Taylor-Wan, moment of silence. Don't. One of the best. I'm right here. I'm right here, dude. This is getting out of ham.

We love you, brother. Amen to that. Yeah. Fuck, man. And here's one. Finally. Let's go. They whoop their ass, too, 21 points in the fourth quarter. 3820.

It's about fucking time, honestly. Yeah, tough for you to see. Well, they've had their four losses, and literally all four losses combined 14 points. I get it. They're a good team. And usually it's a good ball club. Usually they fall apart in the second half or fourth quarter. So to get like 21 points,

You know going in that locker room, the vibes are absolutely high. Like, guys, we still need to clean some things up. We can step on anybody's neck in this league. So I think they started rattling off some wins here. Hopefully they get back in the division race, which will be tough with the way Kansas City is playing. They're fucking... Monsters.

Absolutely dominant. They're terrifying. I was an idiot in fantasy. I played the 49ers defense. That's not an idiot move. They have a minus four points, boss. Leave the emotion out of it. Leave your emotion out of it, Bloss.

If you're a bad move... If they got called back, that really fucking hurt me, too. It was a tough week in fantasy. I lost by eight points. My biggest loss yet, I'm five and two. Wow, that's a nice. Your boys rattle off. Hey, I'm five and two as well.

We still need to play tonight. Tonight needs to happen, but I think I'm going to be five and two after you. Yeah, I guess tonight has happened also, but I have nobody playing. Neither do they. So I've lost. So it's over.

Yeah, speaking to Travis Kelsey, like him and their new Heights podcast. I like it. Message received. Bet. Noted. What happened? We are competing.

Are we really? They are rival number one. Oh, really? I think so, right? They're active player podcast. Him and his brother. Yeah, but there's a world where you all live. For sure, but I'm just talking about, like, selfishly a little competition.

All right. Yeah, you want to bring up the album, Will? Why don't you go on? Who had an idea for an album about two years ago? The boys. Hang on, that's not how he wants to said. Taylor Luan had an album. Had an idea to do a Christmas album a couple years ago.

2019, right? Yeah, in 2019, it was the COVID year. No, 2020, excuse me. It was 2020. Incredible idea. The idea was to get, got people, the players who have been on the bus, each person is involved in creating one of the favorite Christmas songs, and we release a Christmas album to raise money for the Barstall Fund.

Like, all the money was going to go to that. We were going to, like, do this album, have a lot of guys around the league, be on the album, sing our Christmas songs. We did not execute on it. I assume you want, I did not. execute on it. No, it's not about you. We didn't do that.

That's the part where I'll say we did not execute on it. I could have done a better job doing it too. We did not. I'm just an ideas, man. I'm an ideas man. We did not execute on it. Unfortunately, now two years have passed. Jason.

Jason Kelsey, we saw the video. They were releasing a Christmas album. And I'll buy that album. I'm going to buy that album. I'm about the album too. I think it's awesome. It's just that now if we did it, it looks like we would be piggybacking off them.

Which is tough. And right now, like, their podcast is exploding. Like, we've got to figure out a way to stop the bleeding. if we're looking at it from a scoreboard standpoint. Oh, they get like six, they get like six figure views per per. Oh, really? Yeah, they're crushing it.

Oh, good for them, dude. So they're basically like, number one, they're phenomenal. Two brothers, Jason, he's like, does this extremely well with all like the subjects and all that stuff. They all talk about, they tell stories. He's the guy that really keeps things going. Yeah, they talk about it helps that they're both teams are five and one,

six and one, seven, oh, whatever. Yeah, because if it was flipped, yeah, it'd be a tough deal. But they're speaking right after every game, kind of like a Draymond Green thing. And then they preview the weekends. They talk about all the headlines going on in the league. They're doing an incredible job.

They do a good. They do a good job. We need to have them on the bus. Absolutely. Yeah, we need to have them on the bus. After saying their arrival number one, we need to have them on the bus. You said that.

I'm happy for them. Because I think we're all... You can be happy for somebody and still compete with them. Not me. So if you compete with somebody, you got to hate them? I got to fucking hate them. I got to hate them.

I got to hate them. I got to hate them. All right. But yeah, fuck those guys. I think they, it's a tough deal, dude. It's a tough deal. What else is a tough deal?

Broncos. What the fuck's going on with them, dude? Because they're making Seattle look like absolute geniuses. Say that again? The Broncos. Sorry, I was having a tough one. You're okay?

The Broncos are having a tough one and they're making Seattle look like geniuses. I agree. Russell didn't play, I know, but look at the way Russell's been playing. Gina Smith's looking like that first round pick he was drafted in. Was he a first round pick or early second? I think

Yeah, I think he was late first or early second But regardless You're right I agree with that wholeheartedly Like it's the Denver Broncos It's a catastrophe out there A catastrophe did Jerry would say

Seattle's playing fucking good too Like somebody you thought Would probably be at the bottom of that division It looks like they're going to be contenders in the division Are they really That's wild That is crazy Because you literally in the beginning of the season

You're looking at Broncos When Mel was here Mel's like, we're the team in the AFC West and the Seattle's fucked in the NFC West. Here's a question for you. Are the Super Bowl champions even going to make the playoffs this year? I don't know. Seattle, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals.

Cardinals aren't they going to. It's looking like no right now, right? I think no, bro. Having a lot of trouble in that offensive line. Yeah. I'll tell you what they need to do. Then you bring Odell back too. Odell needs to go somewhere.

Everybody's calling for him. Everybody wants them. He's going to go to Minnesota. Is he going to go to... I think even Travis Kelsey Is he gonna go to Minnesota? I guess that's it But the Kelsey brothers

Jason's out there saying hey come to the Chiefs Travis Travis saying come to the Chiefs Travis saying come to the Chiefs I don't know if there's room for him on the Eagles No Yeah no room for I don't think there's any room for either On the Eagles

Which is crazy to say about O'Dell How do you don't have room for O'Dell Beckham What about the Bills? Was it? What about the Titans? That's a nice rumor to get going. That's a nice rule. I'll start that rumor.

Have you heard? No, what? Odell might go to the Titans. You've heard. I've heard. People have told me. A lot of people are talking. And the word on the street is Odell wants to be in Nashville.

We'll welcome in with open arms in Nashville. Actually, someone told me, not me specifically, someone with a John and asked John, and John said he'd love to have Odell in Nashville. I'm just saying what people have told me. You can't confirm nor deny, but you've heard. I've heard. I love that Yeah

Let's get O'Dell Beckman to Nashville Taylor Shepter Taylor Shifty I'm fucking here boys I'm fucking here Yeah I could see I could see that Oh him

Oh him getting I mean that I feel like that stuff kind of happens It's more humorous Gary didn't have a mic So no one knows what you're talking about Garrett asked

What do we think about What happened with Kyler Murray on Thursday night That happens Yeah that happens Tensions run high all the time You yell at your coach Hey calm the fuck down

They're yelling in the They're yelling in the head set. Yeah, they're yelling in the headset. They call the time out. He's over there, chewing them out back and forth

like that that fucking happens all the time. All the time. All the time. People lose their shit all the time. Yeah. You move on. You get done with the series

or in the middle of a timeout. You go over. People are kind of bickering back and forth and usually like, you know, a player spasses out and it's kind of like everybody. Yeah. Everybody just calm down.

It's okay for the coach to lose their shit. But when the players are losing their shit, like whoa, calm down. Yeah. What are you doing, buddy? Yeah.

So I don't think anything's going to come with that. I don't know. There's paid him bags. Another huge topic. Are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers dead? I don't know. Last week, I felt like there was, you know, everybody's kind of still 50-50. Vegas just duped everybody with that one.

Here's a question. Is Mike Evans shaving points? Oh, what? That's an actual thing? Is that an actual thing? That's what I've heard. Mike Evans, might come to the Titans. I've heard that also.

Mike Evans coming to the Titans. Oh, yeah. So there's a couple of them out there. Imagine Mike. The Titans do need, we do need a receiver now. Whoa. I'm just saying, you need, you know, no disrespect to the boys. Trust me, I've been those boys.

Yeah, I'm all about, on the field. I'm all about spreading rumors, but when he started talking specifics, I'm going to, I'm going to. He said, whoa, whoa, yeah, no shots at all those boys. Yeah. I've been in your guys' shoes. We need a linebacker that come fill this spot. I've been there. It's tough, but the sooner you can accept reality,

the quicker you can move forward. So who do you think that you should get? Well, let's go back to the Mike Evans. Right there. Someone did say something about Mike Evans shaving points, JP. So after the game, he was seen signing an autograph for one of the refs. And that's been the controversy. Now, I think Mike Evans is a high class guy, same draft class.

I think every time I've been around him, he seems outstanding. I don't think he'd be shaving points. I think it's too hard. Yeah, I think everything that I've heard. He has a receiver. He dropped a touchdown. He dropped a, he dropped the touchdown. And that's not like him.

man's got hands wide open. I didn't like he did a dough for that little second effort. But I agree with Taylor. Like all the things that I've heard about Mike Evans, there's just, I wouldn't be able to wrap my mind around. You would never guess Mike Evans. And that kind of tie-in rumor, like, he signed something for a referee. He could be a fan of him or his kid or a friend or somebody who's, is it really?

I usually sign autographs for the referees all the time. I was like, hey, Will, come over here. Can you? Kid, that's just, that's just, again, for more. leave a comment. Leave a comment. Please subscribe. Apparently,

apparently New Heights is just barreling down on us right now and we're terrified. Currently in the league an hour ago, Frank Reich has benched Matt Ryan

and Sam Ellinger is going to get the starting spot next week. Whoa. It's time to make a move. You got to make a move. I mean. So is Matt Ryan Dunzo?

It's over for him? The question. I think so. Father time comes for everybody, man. The Titans and Matt Ryan's career. It looks like it. It looks like it.

It looks like. it. I don't want to get off the Buccaneers train. I want to go back to that. It's hard, man, to go to that because there's so many things swirling around Tom Brady and Giselle and all that. Like, I remember being in college and me and my girlfriend were going through stuff. And I'd be in the middle of the game, being like, damn, oh, am I going to fix this?

You know what I'm saying? I don't like, look, man. And you don't play your best. So. Like, damn it, she saw it. She saw the messages. Yeah, and they're all rumors. Oh, yeah.

She saw the Facebook messages. She know what's going on. I thought of the condom. Dude, she's condom. Who's those? I don't pack that after. But dude, yeah, you, like, and it's like, Giselle, Tom, it's somebody's relationship.

Like, if I was in that situation, I would hate people to be talking about that. I'd be like, I just feel bad for Tom. I feel bad for bad for the whole entire family. But it does seem like it's kind of something. Something definitely is weighing on Tom. We don't know what's really happening with them, right? We're not sure.

They got a couple of divorce attorneys on retainer, allegedly. But sums up with Tom. Yeah, and in terms of ball, too, like, I just feel like it's it's not looking good. No. Not looking good for the boys in Tampa. I'm not doing really anything well right now.

I mean, they play a little bit of defense. But. Yeah, they got a good defense. Get penetrating defense. Four three defense are solid. But I feel like the continuity, like the, all the stuff, the boys, man.

They're kind of like. They're having a toughie. Yeah, I think they're having a tough time. And then they're going through this right now. It's hard to stick together. It's a hard thing to do. And then their number one leader, he's having troubles.

And if he's not all in, I'm telling you, like, it's going to weigh on guys. It doesn't matter what the history of Tom Brady. Like, in this moment of performance base, like, right here and now, that stuff affects you. It doesn't matter. Like, when somebody gets to play by a different set of rules, like, it gets a little dysfunctional. Yeah.

Yeah, what is that like in a locker room? Like, I don't know if you all have had anything something, like, obviously this is on a different level. It's Tom Brady. Everyone knows who Tom Brady is and Giselle. But in a locker room, are you kind of like tiptoeing around? Like, oh, shit. Like, is he on a good day, bad day?

or you just ride about someone's relationship? Just like someone going through it in like a public eye like that, like a teammate. Are you tiptoeing around the facility? Like trying to be like, fuck, this is weird in here. Or are you just like, Tom's our guy? We got him. Like, let's try and do this.

I don't think, I've never been in a situation where anything was this public about somebody's relationship. Anything. Relationship, no, but I mean, I've been in some toxic cultures where like guys are in the headlines big time. But you don't, yeah, I mean, you don't like tiptoe, but you're not really asking questions. Like, you're not really connecting with them

on like a player relationship. unless that person is addressing it to, like, eliminate any fires going on outside to where you have, whether it's a team meeting. Not like a, oh, my fucking guy. Not like a player's only meeting, buddy. Not like a player's only meeting, but we got to pause real quick. Adversity. Adversity on the bus. You hit him?

Oh, he kind of swoop. Oh, there he is. He was looking back. I see him over here. He was like, dishing the flies over there. I'm seeing ghosts, man. Wait. He's back.

He's back here this way. I'll imagine. All right. Let's get back to the fucking podcast. All right. I'm going to do my best. I'll see it. What was I saying?

You've been in toxic. You've been in toxic locker rooms before and stuff. And if you're putting out a fire. If you're trying to like eliminate the fires going on, usually somebody's addressing it so you can kind of like hit it head on and not make it a distraction. Like at the end of the day, did they put up a goose egg on offense? Or did they score any points? No.

They just. I mean, they got dusted by the Carolina Panthers, who's in an absolutely shit. Who's in an absolute shit. They traded everybody. By the way, congratulations on CMC. Yeah, they traded it. They traded CMC. They traded Robbie Anderson.

They fired their head coach. Like, they're, Baker Mayfield's not even playing. Like, they're, it's abysmal in Carolina. Like, they're preparing for the future. Like, good on them. That's what they need to be doing. Yeah, they're not taking for two a situation. But for, yeah, but for Tampa to lose like that, I think it just kind of shows what could be happening on the inside.

Again, being on teams where there's toxic culture and stuff, like it's one of those, there's a lot of headlines going around to where you're just like, oh, I'm just going to do my thing. Or you don't really talk to guys about what their situation is. You hear all the rumors. You talk about it maybe amongst like a couple guys, but unless something is getting addressed from a team standpoint, again, that's a guy, like it's Tom Brady, he's the goat.

Yeah. So if he's like continuing to, you know, not be there on Wednesdays or whatnot, I don't know what's going on. I'm not saying like Tom's like purposely intentionally doing all that stuff. But when all that operation is going on the way it is, like it does affect the team. Like it does affect the guys unless it's like addressed somehow. So unless there's some things coming out of guys having meetings and shit like that, like, I don't think it'll go well for Tampa.

That's my opinion. You think they're dead? I think Tampa Bay Buccaneers are dead. I think Tom Brady's dead. I don't think you would see Peyton Manning losing a game like that. Yeah, I mean, it's tough to say. I wonder what playoff Lenny thinks. I like to get him on the horn and

I talk to him about it a little bit All we're doing is just speculating All we're doing is speculating And you're right like the way playoff Lennie was Preseason but again Preseason Everybody's winning the Super Bowl Everybody's feeling good

Everybody You're getting in the team fights And like doing all that stuff Everybody feels good about who they have on their roster Now that shit's kind of hitting the fan You would like to know what's going on inside Yeah Because it could be different

It could be a lot different who knows Let's hope they can write the ship a little bit Because I think like if you're in the situation, if it goes like this the rest of the year. Now Tom's in a situation where he was where you could play forever for whoever you wanted. And now he's in a situation if it keeps going like this where it's like you're done. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

It's crazy how fell. I'm not saying somebody else will give him a shot. There's no, obviously that's going to happen. I think it's got to be. No matter. I think even if he had success, it would be his last year with that massive. He would have in a post team interview. There's no retirement in my future.

But I think that's just for. Smoking mirrors. Yeah, smoking mirrors. I respect. and also agree with that. Yeah, I think that's smoking mirrors. I think this is the last year. And again, I think that even plays into the equation of, you know,

all the business stuff that was agreed upon to where he can go do all this stuff, this and that, the other. And if he's kind of halfway checked out, not halfway checked out, like he's not giving the boys everything. But again, it's just a different game. You can, you're a little bit of a leg out the door. You got a massive deal lined up for you in the media world when you're done. Massive.

And it's like if the boys aren't playing well right now, it's, you know, it'll be interesting to see how like the next couple weeks unfolds with Tampa. Yeah, if he's in the situation, if you're in the situation and your family life allegedly is going where it is, I would dip. I'm out of here, boys. This is what it is. How old is he 45? Yeah.

It's bigger than football. It's going to be a small little blemish on an incredible career. Yeah. On the best career of all time. Yeah. It's bigger than ball. Yeah, it's bigger than football. It's bigger than football.

Yeah. And if he left, people will be pissed. Tampa Bay be mad. And a year, they'll be fine. Yeah. They'll be celebrating the greatest football player of all time. Yeah. He's going to be the only player with two names.

or name on two stadiums. Yeah. I mean, right? That's a nice. Isn't that wild? We should have asked Chris Johnson that if he thinks he should be in the ring of honor. Is he not? He probably will be, right?

He should be right. I mean, three pro Bowls. Like three more years. You think he should be in the ring of honor? No. I'd like to be. I think there's an argument for it. But, nah.

In the last two years really kind of crushed me. Appreciate that, boss. We'll figure it out. me. Appreciate that, boys. One thing we can do. We can make that kind of shit happen. I love that. Should we get to tear talk?

Shout out, no free shout out of the weekend. He needs to have it first. All right. I think it's time. Hang on. Did we hit on anything, anything else to fucking, you know, get... Yeah, we gotta get going. Perfect.

All right, yep. All right. For shoutout, no, for shout out. Oh, the week, Bloss. Your team's doing phenomenal. I'm sure your shout, no, if you should have something to do with the 49ers. and you're up, buddy

Let's what you got running on a over here Yeah, my shout out No free shoutout this week Despite all the bad talks We had about Halloween kills There were a few parts That still made me jump

So my shout out No free shout out this week Goes to those movies That could still make you jump Those spooks that could still make you jump A couple of things I have an issue with there I think it's kind of lazy I agree with the fact that you should shout out

the movies and make you jump and there was that part where the kid jumps out in the beginning of the movie. But other than that, what would we really have? The part where Michael Myers grabs his throat through the sewer, that made me jump a little bit. There was a few sneaky parts in there

that made me jump. I'm with you until you talked about Halloween ends. I don't think that thing deserves any flowers. That's a biased thing. I'm sure that's... But it's recent, those recent spooks. Because, like, when you rewatch, you know where all the jumps are.

But you get older, you kind of... You can kind of like identify. Yeah, you rewatch a movie. You're going to know where it's out. I think the shout-out, no free shout-out should be. Those movies you can re-wash and still get the jump, like the original paranormal activity.

All right. That's on me. That's on me. Maybe I overstep. I know I overstepped. That's on me. Jack, what do you got? Kind of along the same lines,

but we went and saw the movie, obviously. And I've been house-sitting for my parents. And so they got a big house sit, like, you know, over in Brumwood. And it's, you know, we were talking about on the episode, or Chris was having like a big house, you hear noises. You hear those creaks and the cracks. And especially even though the movie sucked, it's still, I left the movie a little creeped out knowing I had to go back to an empty house. And it's not like being scared, but it's waking up the following morning when it's bright out.

And you go, what the fuck was I scared of? And you go, oh, I could beat anything. But then the night comes back and it fully resets. You go, oh, fuck, somebody is in here. And I actually realized that the back. door had been left open just like an inch. And I couldn't remember if I did that or not. So I sat there with this just fucking horrible fear that someone was in the house.

I went and kind of looked around, but I didn't go upstairs. I was like, fuck it. If they're up there, they're up there. So, but my shoutout is waking up in the morning, completely safe, never thinking you'll be scared again until the following night resets again. So that's me. Hey, that's a solid one. That's a solid one, Jack.

But we know you didn't go home alone that night. Oh. Yeah, I do you did they, though, boss. All right, Mitch, O.H. I know. Relax. My shout out sort of goes along, I guess, closer to blonde. Spooky shoutouts?

I didn't figure it out. No, not me. Spooky shout out. But my shout out is the movie experience in general. Just going to the movies with a bunch of your friends and, like, shout out to Taylor for all the stuff. I appreciate that. But, like, that, like, just being with all the boys and, like, going to the movies.

and getting all your snacks and then hurry up, getting into the theater to watch the previews. I know that's been a shut up before, but like, just the overall movie theater experience. Vibe.

Yeah. The movie's theater vibe. There we go. Movie theater. That one gives a special vibe. Yeah. It does. But the seats,

they didn't have the reclining seats like Green Hills has. The seats were tough on me, dude. They were tough. We had to get humbled with the seats. We got humbled. It was a foreshadowing for the movie.

In high school, those seats are fucking incredible. Hitters. Yeah, but, you know, now we've, We've grown a bigger and better things. We need some recliners. Yeah, thanks.

All right, JP. All right, so mine still on the movie train. Oh. But, and it actually kind of applies with this, with these Halloween movies a little bit, but my shoutout, no free shout out, goes to the final fight scene in the movie, in the second to last movie of a series.

Because something happens in it where you're, like, you're amped up because you know the next one is like, this is it, we're ready. And it's just like, as opposed to the last movie, you're kind of like it ends, there's no more movie left. Second and the last movie, you're looking forward to that finale. Can't help but think about Halloween kills in that situation. Yeah.

Can't help. All right, merch. I mean, Garrett, what are you fucking shouting out today, buddy? I'm so glad you said that. Why is that? Because yesterday I ran into someone at the game, he stopped me, fan of the pod, reping the merch. And he said to me,

Hey, don't let Taylor fuck with you on your shoutout. Wow. Okay. So my shout out is to Morty, the fan that stopped me. The guy's the ride with the back of the bus. So that's my shout out this week. All right. Okay, Morty. Titans Rick. Oh, that's solid, dude.

It was Titans Rick? Oh, man. He fires me up every time I see him somewhere. Do you want me to go? Shall I go? Go ahead. My shout out. No free shout out of the week.

goes to AA batteries. The reason I'm shutting out double-A batteries because I feel like they're underappreciated. We were in a little bit of a bind last week, Jackie Boy. I don't know if you remember out here. You needed some AA batteries. Garrett, are there double-A batteries? When you're playing video games and your controller dies a little bit,

sometimes you only need one double-a battery. You're not going to switch both of them out. You might just need to throw one in there just to give it that little juice you need to enjoy the rest of the night. I think it's a very under-appreciated item product, so I want to give it some flowers. I want to give it some love. shoutout, no free shoutout goes to

double A batteries, brother. Nah, fuck your blower. Triple A isn't as much of necessity. It's like the devil's number one hitters. Go everywhere, bro. You're checking remote. You're checking everything. Like, oh, double A batteries here just to throw one in your controller or whatever.

Your remote is a AAA. You, yeah, you like it better when everything's double A. Yes. What was your shout out last week? Oh my God, dude. That shit had me rolling last week. Quarter machines. That's solid.

Thank you. Let's stay in the Spooktober theme, dude. I feel like not just Spooktober theme, but holiday themes in general. My shadow, Norfolk's shoutout goes to, usually any town or city you go into, there's that one neighborhood. The whole neighborhood bands together. They have a close relationship and they all decide, we're going to decorate like crazy and be the neighborhood to drive down, whether it's Christmas lights, make your own haunted

street or something like that, just really diving in together. And having that kind of community, that kind of camaraderie of each neighbor individually bringing something to the table and saying, I'm not going to be the one that's left behind. I'm going to dive in and add to this theme, B-Spoctober of Christmas, those are the two that keep coming to my head, and just keep diving in.

So you know at night, when the kids are bitching and moan and you can't get them to fall asleep, so you go and drive down that road and have them just stare at the lights, maybe make a couple of passes at it, and it just lightens everybody's fucking mood. So my shadow goes to community decorations. I liked it.

That was a good one. Thanks, boys. I appreciate that. Thank you. Quarter machines. All right. Tier Talk, boys. Let's do some tear talk.

Fucking. Tier Talk this week is Halloween candies. There's a lot of them out there. And I think I'm excited about this tier talk because it's really going to switch up what everybody's heard about my candy vibes. So I'm excited. I'm very excited.

It's really going to switch up what everybody's heard about your candy vibes? My candy vibes. It might be going to switch up because I think Halloween trick or treating it's a way different game than going to movies or just a pleasurable dessert treat you have at home.

So I'm going to switch it mine up. Absolutely. I think it switches it up, so I'm really excited for this. Should we take just a few minutes? Go ahead. We interrupt this episode to bring you a read from Whistlepig Whiskey. The reason that this read is important is because we have a new barrel coming out. You take in the aroma, you get nice overtones of caramel and toasted almonds finished

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But thanks for listening. Again, stay tuned because the bottle is coming out very soon back to the episode. Our tier talk is best Halloween candy. This is, I think this is super important. This is an extremely important.

This is an extremely important time. There's a massive difference between Halloween trigger treating candy and then what you're buying at the gas station. I agree, brother. And, and like you said, the movie theater too. Yeah. We are now going to dive in. The back of the bus will start first. Now, before we go any further, Halloween candy. It's a big deal.

And it's not necessarily what you would have at a movie theater or at the gas station. But it's that tasty treat you put in for most of us, your pillowcase when you're a young lad. And what you're most excited about. So boys, who's starting us off? All right. So our tier three can never go wrong with it. We heard a very polarizing opinion about it on Twitter this past week. it's Reese's peanut butter cups. Those single wrapped by themselves. Never go wrong with those. Our tier two, this is actually...

Oh, yeah, yeah, tier two. Oh, is this tier two? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My personal tier one. Oh, the greatest candy to see in the trick-or-treating bowl. And it is from the greatest cartoon of all time. It's that SpongeBob gummy Crappy Patty. Buddy.

Oh. Oh, my God. God. That is a hitter? You want to go trick-or-treating right now. Oh, that is such a hitter. That's our tier two. Damn, how do I steal that?

I can't. All right, our tier one, because when you trigger-treat as a kid, money is, it's not in your mind. You don't care about money, but financially what can make you rich when you roll up to a house, and it's usually those big neighborhoods with the three stories. They got an elevator probably. And they hand out a king-sized candy bar. So it doesn't have to be a special. specific candy, but any king-sized candy bar you get on Halloween, you are at that point

financially solvent, as we like to say, and bet the bus. And that is something you can flex on all your friends with because all of a sudden you have probably four times the amount in one single house. So the king-sized candy bar is our number one. I love that, but it makes me a little upset on a specific one. It's not. You're just saying king-sized candy. Yeah, because you're claiming all candy. If that's the case, tier one is truly when you go up and there's a bowl of it and says, please take one, you're like, I ain't just taking one. But it really doesn't even matter what the candy bar is.

It does matter. The king size candy bar will beat any other candy out, though. I don't believe, I don't agree with that. Halloween. Let the internet. The size almond joy versus a small Reese's peanut butter cup. That's a great point. That's a great point. You know what I'm saying? Trade base. Yeah.

Yeah. I love, I love where you guys went with that, but I just don't think it applies. I don't either. Let the internet decide I think it's a disqualification No You can't do this again

Honestly like Let the internet decide You can't say You can't say you're going to put like a blank candy bar And be like king size candy bar Of course people are like Oh that's a header But it's also not a hitter

Because it's not based on this Snickers over hers What's your candy bar bro You can't just say king size You're naming all of them Like any individual candy Is being used for a king size I mean for me personally

People are going to say the Snickers The Kit Katz But I think on Halloween, a crunch bar, a king-sized crunch bar, will go crazy. Strong. So a king-sized crunch bar is your tier one? Sure. I don't know if you could put sizes in it, buddy. No, you're cool.

I don't know if you put sizes. And this is not traditional, but an honorable mention is, and you are going to hate this, too, because it's a broad thing, but any of the mini packets you get, whether it's Skittles, the gummy Bears, any mini packet you get honorable mention. What? What is going on right now? What? Sorry, they're honorable mention.

Yeah. Your tier one and honorable mention was candy, all candy. King-sized candy bars. Minis are goaded. That's a tough one. You might as well just say, they're goaded, but they're not. Candy. Let the internet decide.

Let the internet. Candy bars, too. King size. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. Oh, we're doing one word. It's qualified.

Untrustworthy. Buddy, there's five of you. You guys can come up with three candies. That's fucked up. That's wild. And I lookie- Zoom out and see that you claimed all candies with two of your slots.

It's not about claiming all candies. It's the fact that you get a king-sized candy bar. He doesn't matter what. He said that Kit Kat Rese's commercial where the little girl comes with the costume. He just got the Kit K and the Reesies and the big ones. That's where he got that from. That's crazy.

I know. And the Rocky thing doesn't play because it's like claiming all Rieces is goes... No, that Rocky thing was, but don't... We're on the same page right now. We'll watch the same movies together. Let me at least try to explain. He said it's just like me claiming Rocky movies.

I'm not claiming all horror movies. It's like taking like I'm going to take the king-size Rises, the regular, the mid and the mini, all combined. They're going to be my tier one. That's like choosing the Rocky movie. I think you're both wrong, but we're just trying to evaluate who's more wrong here.

Am I right? I guess that's fair. Okay. Is Rocky movie claim? Okay, thank you. Yeah, I don't even want to do this anymore. That's crazy. They can't just have king-sized candy bars.

Hey, just do all your tears and all king-sizes. No, I don't got McDonald's. However, I will say, I will say, you know what? I'm going to throw that in my honorable mention, since our God tier is candy corn. What? No, that's fair. Because I think.

What? I think it's either. And it's more speaking to the candies that linger on your teeth. I think there's not, you're not having a true Halloween experience, whether it's milk duds, dots, Mike and Ike's getting stuck to your teeth as you get done chewing them and trying to scrape them off. I feel like every Halloween has to have that. What are we, what's going on?

What do I mess up? Yeah. But so my honorable mention, I guess, is going to go to simply milk duds, but I just want to throw that in there. I think that you're not having a true Halloween experience unless you're. you're scraping some kind of candy that's stuck on your teeth. My tier three. Don't get my ideas.

That's a header. My tier three, your boys are trollefine, and I'm going to stick to the script, boys. My tier three is a kick-cat bar. Give me them little kitty-cat bars. Oh, do you know. I'm talking to chocolate. I'm talking chatt-a-three.

I'm talking chatt-a-ha-ha-ha. You rip the wrapper and you kind of put that whole thing in your mouth. Kit Kat bar, my tier two, Butterfinger, and my tier one. My tier one. It's not the Reeson Peanut Butter Cup, but it's your Reese's fast break. When you get them little fast breaks in your candy, dude, you're living the fucking dream. And those are my candies. Milk duds, honorable mention.

Kit Kat, my tier two, Butterfinger, my tier one, king, fast break. I know you said you're not experiencing it if you're not pulling it off your teeth, but none of your three, you have to pull off your teeth. What do you mean, milk duds? You have those honorable mention. Yeah, yeah, because those are my favorite, like, those are my go-to candies that you were to grab. Yeah, no, I'm just saying, like, all of them have to be. Because you know how you're scrapping and eating all your favorites kind of first.

You might save a little for last. But you're getting those fillers in, and the fillers to me are like the milk does, the dots and stuff like that. I think they're enjoyable, but they're not like my favorites. Yeah, no, for sure. I agree. It's like you're sitting there and then you're like, somebody's on a piss break. You're just throwing a little box of nerds. Fire.

You know what I'm talking about. You're at that open? Fire. All of them. They'll never know. They'll never know when they come back from that fist break. Yes. What are you guys so hard about?

It was all chocolate. Got his ass. Are we doing one word? Yeah. Chocolate. Fuck. Yeah. Damn it.

Why didn't I just say that? What was your word, Garrett? I mean, I didn't want to. say chocolate but Mitch said chocolate. Loyal. Chocoleteer. Predictable. Oh, he's hurt. That's okay. It didn't go according to plan. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. I got my head there. Safe? Yeah, yeah. Boy knows what he wants. That chocolate.

You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. I can't wait. disagree. Oh, that's your word. Fuck, okay. I'm assuming I threw a shot at one of your candy, so I see where this is going. No, not at all. I, like, listen, I'll do my tiers and then we can get into it.

Okay. My tier three, and this is where I said, I said it a bunch of times, you probably cut it seven times. You only heard it once, but I do think there's a big difference between when you're going trick-or-treating as a kid and what you want to get versus when you get to go to a gas station. Here's the reason why. When I go to a gas station, I want to get some.

candy. I'm going to get a bag of the gummies. I guess you're like the chewisies. The Sour Patch Kid, watermel, stuff like that. You don't get that same kind of service when you go to a Halloween trick-or-treating. Because you get a single, maybe a jumbo size or a king-size, fucking Sour Patch Kid. It's this big. But it's really not hitting off the way you want to. It's like having one chip.

So that I have to lay down the sword on the gummies and go to my trick-or-treat. So my tier three is the rollo. I think Rolos are fucking. fire, that caramel inside, but the chocolate's just hard enough. And you do get it kind of stuck in your teeth a little bit. I think that's fantastic. Now, I do think there is a place

for the gummy kind of experience or the chewies, whatever. I don't know, what's the fucking category for those things? I have no idea. Chewis. Where I think there is a place for them is in my tier two. And my tier two is going to be Skittles. They put just enough in that small little bag for you to feel like, I really got something out of this when I ate it.

And it kind of goes to what Will said with the nerds. We can kind of rip it, drain it, and no one ever saw it happen. It was like a little magic trick or something like that. That is where I think they belong. And my tier ones, and I know it's a little bit predictable, but it just hits so much different when you had those. And for me, it was always the first to go was the classic Reese's peanut butter cups. And I want to make those all king size.

So that way, they're all fucking hitters. Now I'm on board, dude. Now I'm on board, dude. little bit different from what I've been saying a long time. That's why I had to say that there's a place. There's a place for those chocolates in my life and that's where they live. I'm ready, Garrett. Oh, wait, hold on. I have an honorable mention. How did it go? The crunch bar. I think the crunch bar is awesome. Oh, that changes my word. Oh, does it? Okay. The crunch bar to me, I think is outstanding. You can chew it and hey, listen, we're no, we're no pause podcast, but when you put in your mouth and you

kind of suck it and let it all kind of disintegrate, dude. Hit her. Hit her. Delicious. Variety. solid um average he stole your word solid so you went to average um

it's tough because I'm a big rhesus peanut butter cup guy mediocre yeah so here's what I was saying with yours why I disagreed is I'm not a huge butterfinger guy

I hadn't the best thing butterfinger did was have the Simpsons have Bart Simpson did the commercials other than that the taste of it never really did it for me it's all good and that's it

I have nothing against you yeah okay I think the mediocre came in when you threw in the crunch bar. I'm not a big crunch bar guy. It's honorable mention. It's all right. It's part of your tear talk. Dan, so I really ruined it.

Skittles as a tier two is really high. Like, your boys, like he said, I'm a chocolate tear. I'm a chuckle tear. When you're throwing in a sweet candy, it just doesn't jive with me. So it's like you're getting a bad grade in my head. So, and then you thrown the Reese's peanut butter cup. It brings you back up. You're right there in the middle.

What was your three? Roll-Rolo is decent. Rollo is good. No, thank you. I appreciate that. Sneaky and unique is something that nobody saw a comment. You had a little uncertainty factor there, a little shock factor with the rollo. Yeah.

It's just me and just being much for yourself. Thank you. Yeah, I think it hits, right? It gives you just enough. But those sour packs, because they don't give you enough in that. See, I like the, I like the skittle little snack packs. Swedish fish is another one. Yeah, but they only give you, like, one fish.

True. But I like the skittal little snack packs just, like, randomly throughout the year, like on a sunny day. You see a snack pack of Skittles laying around. You're like, oh, this is going to hit. But when you're on Halloween and you're trying to divvy it up and you're trying to, like, go after it, like, I'm all about the chocolate. Like, I really don't want a whole lot of, again, quick nerd. I'll throw it a little nerds box in just for, just, yeah, just by habit.

It's like, okay, somebody's, somebody's going to have to eat these. I respect that. Yeah. This was great. Different vibes today. Well, we would do it after an ad. We are, but the ad that goes into the interview part. I'm not sure which ad that would be.

You'll have you get on the screen. This was a fun little pod, though. This was a fun pod. Now we're about to get into, I'm sure we're going to do an ad read, but we're about to get into the Chris Johnson, Lendell White podcast. It was fucking awesome. It was outstanding all the way through.

Yeah, the last, how long do we argue about who the best Titan running backs were for like 30 minutes? And my man Chris Johnson's leaning over, pointing at the screen, trying to argue his numbers. It was awesome. Still number one for me right now at the moment. I tried telling him that, but I think he knows the spot's about to get took here in a little bit.

Dang. Lindell White, awesome. He tells some, how Snoop Dog used to pick up. He talked a lot about the Hollywood life at USC, which some really good intel there. Nice conversation about Pete Carroll. I think you guys are going to all enjoy him.

Yeah, holy shit. Also adversities of when you're done playing the NFL. Yeah, where your identity goes. That's a tough one. Yeah. Yeah, the struggle that... He was very open and honest about that. Yeah, and that was kind of right out of the gate

after we talked about eating ass. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good all-around podcast. I think it's a good transition, though. Yeah. Because when you eat ass, you kind of feel like you're, at the end, you're like, I'm kind of,

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Now, we're talking about we. Hey, boss is a cop. You got to watch out for Bloss. He's definitely keeps us on a straight and arrow. So your guys' podcast. Talk about that. How did you guys get that started? Why did you guys get that going? Man, this crazy, man. Like, you know, me and Like, we always round each other, man, like 24, 7 all the time. And we always, like, going back and forth on whatever. The topic could be anything. Talker could be, is this water better than this water or whatever?

We're just going back and forth about it all the time. And the only thing we was missing was the cameras. You know what I'm saying? Recording it and stuff like that. So we was like, you know, we was talking one time. We were like, man, let's do a podcast. And the crazy thing about it is when we first was like, we're going to do it, we was trying to find a name, right?

Yeah. We wanted to get away from smash and dash because we know we was going to talk about all topics, like everything, not just football or whatever like that. And then, you know, just sending out tweets, like getting people to try to help us find the name and stuff. And it just kept coming back. Everybody's like, man, I need to do smash and dash, y'all. Because it's all, we already got a following with the smash and dash or whatever like that.

So everybody just kept saying smash and dash, smash and dash. that's how we end up naming it smash a dash or whatever yeah it only made sense to me like like he said we try to get away from that because the podcast is more lifestyle we it's it's crazy because you know just naturally something always happens in sports so you that's what's going to be the topic you know especially in locker room so even though we don't want to talk about sports naturally when you scroll on IG or you know you on the internet you're going see something to do with some sports so we talk about that but we talk about any and everything And women, you know what I'm saying?

For show shopping, you know, how much they can't not spend money, you know, stuff like that. You know, it's all kind of stuff. It's like, you know, whatever we're going on. Talk about times at USC, you know, I remember when Snoot picked me up one time from class and, you know, people would be wanting to hear about that. So we talk about any and everything. And this is like really my right hand. This is my dog, my best friend.

That been since 2008. And it's like, shit, just rolled over, man. It only makes sense. Dude. Okay. There's a couple things to unpack there. I can't wait. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm, I'm electrostatic right now.

When you're talking about women, like, what are we doing? We're rating? Or we're just talking about what they can and can do? We could rate for show, anything. Nothing matters. Number one. Like, women out there right now? Yeah, number one.

Nicky. He loves, man, loves some Nicky. Nah, I don't know about that. Well, listen. I don't want to get too far into this too quick, but I'm sure there's some different types out there. When I see Nikki, when Nikki's walking away, it's like in a museum to look at. Like, wow, what a beautiful painting. But, like, I'm not doing any damage to that.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, come on. Listen, 300-pound white dude? I mean, you know, you've seen the office alignment out there. You know, that's a tough little deal. So I see Nikki, I'm like, wow, that's beautiful. I'm sure another man's going to make her very happy someday, you know? That's just not for me.

Who's your number one? Dude, see, if we're going to go away, like, if I'm talking about celebrity crushes, I take you back to that 70 show with Milakounis. Yeah. Wayla. I don't know. Mila was been, I think that was all our crush

that one point in time. Burnett, smaller, that's like, that's like my move right there. Right there. What are you at?

I don't know. I'm trying to think about it. I feel like my first. Margot, Margo Robbie, was that her name too? Margo Robbie, bro.

Dimer, dude. She is beautiful. Her and Wolf of Wall Street, I mean, all of it, really, but her cares. Yeah, it was unfair when she opens the doors

in Wolf of Wall Street. You're like, what are we doing here? Like, do I need to go to back in a quick? Who do you think your very first, like, crush was? Oh, I'll tell you right now, Rose from Titanic. Really?

That was the first pair of boobs I ever saw in my life. I felt like mine was Carmen Elektra. Oh, my boy. Oh, yeah, Carmen, yeah. You know, everybody's out there in the corner of young. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Pam. That was the main go-to when you were younger. You see Pamela?

Yeah, it's a huge. Yeah, one video out there that you always been looking at. Yeah, the porn video. Yeah. I couldn't wait to watch that. I ain't going to lie. I found out you can see that I was like, oh, that's the lady from TV.

Yeah. I need to see them. Right. Yeah, yeah. Her, Kim, Kim Kardashian had one. We've all seen the videos, though. I mean, let's get a little better, like, let's get some better quality cameras in there.

You know what I'm saying? It's a little fuzzy. Yeah, it's a video cassette TV. You know what I'm saying? 894K. No, these things, you put that on there. You're going to see everything. Yeah.

Everything's going to be dialed them. So do you guys, you guys, what are your guys's segments on smash and dash? Do you guys have a smash and dash segment? Do you smash or dash? We definitely do that sometimes. We do it sometimes. It just depends.

I mean, we definitely going to, the first, like, three episodes, I think we did do that. And it was some, like, we was on there, like, do you eat ass and, like, stuff like that? And it's like smashing or pass and their dash, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think somebody, I think somebody smashed. I had to dash. I ain't on that. You know what I mean?

But somebody was like, I'm smashing. So that's crazy to me. Yeah. You know what I mean? This podcast is going right where I wanted to go. This is exactly where I thought it. I actually didn't think it would go to play. But I'm happy.

I'm talking about eating ass. Yeah. Oh. So you're not about that. You're not about eating ass? I mean, no, not right now. I can't. That's not.

Yeah, not on, that's not really up on my list. Buddy, I ever had it happen to you? Yes. He questioned everything, didn't you? Yeah, man. You got to question everything when that happens to you. You're honest, man. Yeah, but then she has.

You let her take over. Do God's work? Yeah. You see God the most clearly. Yeah. You see God the most clearly. Bro, there are some, these are like a locker room conversations to because I was in the locker room one time,

and I'm overhearing two dudes talking. And one guy's like, you eat ass? And I was like, yeah, of course he'd ask. Like, I'd ask for sure. And he's like, what about sucking toes? He goes, oh, man, she's got to take a shower if I'm going to suck toes. You'll say, yes, eating ass, but sucking toes.

You got to make sure to shower with the toes. My man drew a line. But you want them to shower, too, in both situations. In both situations, that's what I'm saying. Most this way, yeah. You just go out for a jog and then you're like, you want to eat this thing. You can just say, yeah, I'll eat ass.

and then, oh, but it's toast, I got to shower. Like, that's when you... Because if you were saying, yeah, I eat ass and I suck toes, it's like they'd probably shower before. Yeah. But if you're like, I eat ass and like, but if I'm going to suck toes, they got a shower. That's a questionable assing.

It's like, what are we doing with the ass thing? That's a tough deal. That's a tough gig. If he did that, then he guaranteed he definitely ate the ass without it being watched. No question. No question. You remember being young sitting there

for a couple years in the league. You go out to South or Tin Roof or something like that. Bring somebody home. Nobody's, nobody. He's worried about a shower. No one. Getting straight to it. You're getting straight to it.

Everything. A couple of drinks? This man is an ultimate SC. He's a scumbag. Oh, fight on, dude.

Oh, yeah. He's, there's no way. He said, Tim Roof, I know where he was going. Oh, yeah.

I was a big loser. This is the ultimate skumby. Yeah, I did get pretty scummy in my first couple of years. I've got two kids now. I've dialed it back a little bit. But yeah, I'm chilling now.

But the first two years, I was out in these streets big time. I was getting a little wild out there. Why? Was that? Yeah, she knows. Okay. She's very, we're very, we tell each other everything.

Allegedly, I don't know. She was one of them. I think we tell each other everything. I think that word. Allegedly. Because they definitely tell you 99% of things. That's okay. It's almost like what, you know, what daddy don't know, don't hurt them.

Yeah, I'm telling you when you're right now. So she's not telling me a couple things. It's okay because I don't know. Yeah. Because my feelings are fine. Yeah. It hurts when you think about it, though. Oh, man.

Especially when you're in college dating girls. Yeah. And like you find out they've been doing something and like, I don't know how y'all were, but if someone was cheating on you, I'd have to know everything. Right, right, right. What positions you guys do? What was like, I really broke,

oh, wait. I broke down, bro. Bro, ain't no way. Once I know you cheat, I don't even want to hear about none of that. Really? Yeah, I want to hear that. Good for you, man.

That's a superpower. Yeah. I don't want to know how you got to know. Oh, you got to know. You got to know. You got to know. You were sucking him like that, and you did that movement. I don't want to know none of that.

Bro, listen. We play. We play Michigan State. And after the game, I literally have a boot on and like a wrist thing because I fucked up my wrist and my ankle. And I'm at the bar. And one of my buddies plays on the hockey team is like,

hey, I got to tell you something like your girlfriend, she's been sleeping with one of the hockey guys. I power walked my ass to that house, kicked the door down, went to his bedroom, and I like made him call her. And then two days later, went to his house. I was like, tell me everything.

Tell me everything that happened. And he told me everything. And bro, everything he said hurt more than the last thing. It was so painful. It hurt so bad. It's so bad. Wow. I'm a weirdo like that.

I got to know. I appreciate you, dude. I appreciate you. I don't want to hit nothing. No, no. I understand why you may want to know, but like, man, nah. What if she, that's what I'm saying? She's in there telling you like, yeah, no, well, me and two other girls is in there,

and then you're like, wait, what? Two other girls. That would hurt the most. And you didn't do that with me, but you're doing it with this new guy? Right. Yeah. No, listen, I understand. I understand where I'm wrong here.

I get it. I know I'm like not in the right. But everything hurt, dude. Are you picking up everything Chris is saying? All right, good, because I see that microphone sitting a little far away. Don't let, don't get scared. You can put it in now, I'm in now. Is this when Best Buzz since 2008?

What sparked it off? Like, how did you guys mean? Like, was it like sparks flying right away or did it take a minute? Well, with me, when I can't, well, he was already here, then I got drafted. And then, you know, they was coming off. When I was coming in, that's before I got here, I knew about, like, the USC, Texas. You know what I'm saying?

So Vince was here. He was here or whatever. So, like, just me getting drafted and me coming in, I'm seeing these guys, you know, they were like celebrities. Yeah. So as college kids, you know, they were like celebrities. Yeah. USC with the Reggie Bush, the Lendell White, Vince Young.

So I'm like, man, that's coming here. I'm like, damn, I'm with these guys, you know what I'm saying? And then just going from there and then, like, I stayed in Brentwood. He stayed off, was that Westwood? Yeah, like Green Hills. Like by Green Hills. So, like, man, me leaving the facility every day, like, going on the way going home, I'm stopping by his house.

You know what I'm saying? I'm in the hang with Lendell White about that. No what I'm saying? So, like, just going from now, man, and it was crazy. And then, like, when I got here, his brothers and cousins was here, and then my brothers was, they moved up here with me. So they used to hang out all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying?

We gone away games or everything. practice. They all together. He was with each other, know what I'm saying? So then, like, you know, getting out of practice and stuff, and after the games,

you know, we want to meet up with them, know what I'm saying? So, like, it's just been that way the whole time. And then, like, when he ended up leaving or whatever, I was calling him,

it was one situation. I was calling him like, bro, man, come to, man, come to Nashville. So he kept giving me these excuses or whatever. I was depressed as fuck.

I ain't going to lie. What were you depressed about? I got cut, was done playing. Yeah. In that moment, you ain't thinking, like, especially when you don't get no calls. It's like one year, you're like, cool, you're still working out. You're like, man, it might be the year, you know what I mean. And it's crazy because you see dogs like Marshawn, AP, and something they do whatever they want, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm back? Pick me up. And you're like, man, I can get not one call, you know what I'm saying? So it messes with you. And then, you know, this is 2K. I've seen it. You know what I'm saying? He bawled out.

And it's just like, man, I can't, what I'm going to do up there with him? Like, he's living his best life. Man, I'm an old retired dude. You know what I'm broke now? You know what I'm saying? Like, what can I really do? So at the same time, he keep calling me like, man, like, what are you doing? Come out here.

I'm making every excuse in the world. I remember this like clockwork. I'm like, oh, man, I got to hang out here. My mom needs me to do this. The dog's over there. He might need to walk him. You know what I'm whatever? So one day, he just finally calls like, hey, listen, Mike Moore booked your ticket.

I'm a C-Friday. I don't want to hear nothing else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I got here and I'll never forget it, man. Like, I was, I was hurting them all. And man gave me, like, a couple green cards, like some money. I'm like, dude, go get whatever you need.

Take these cars. Hang out. And I'm like, man, what? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's awesome. And as I'm chilling, he's taking me back out. And I don't never forget it, my birthday, man. He had, like, a little party.

He threw for me, man. And then he went on stage and he, like, called me out and did all. You know, like, and I just, you know, like, And I just remember in that moment, like, man, I'm so thankful because I don't know where I would have been. Because, like, life after football is probably the roughest shit in the world, man. It's the roughest. Because our whole life is football. Everything is you a kid.

And not only that, but being picked up by Snoop at college, playing at SC, playing around that team, being national champions. People dating celebrities back then. You're Linda White smashing dash here and then you go to getting cut. Yeah, I'm sure it's like just flipped on your head. You cut. You know what I'm saying? You're walking around. right, man, you look good, man, why ain't you?

And you like, man, I'm winning the same thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it does something to your sight. But thank God that he was around because he's like, man, you Lindell. What are you talking about? You go to these games, you look around. You know what I mean?

Your jersey's like, you can make your, you got to, you got to think you're better than that. You, because I grew, he's like, man, I grew up on you. What you mean? Yeah. And, you know, from there, man, it's been, that was, what, like 2012? That was your last year of the Titans. Was it? Okay.

Yeah, like 2012. Yeah. I had been calling them since like 2000. Was it? It was like 11. Yeah. It was a long. And I was bucking.

I'm like, yeah, I'm going to come out there. I'm going to come hang out. Yeah. I'm going to get there, man. I'm going to get there. Right. And everybody like, man, what are you doing? Why ain't you here?

And I'm just, oh, man. I was, yeah, I was depressed. That shit was rough. So when you got cut, you went back home? Yeah. Went back home to hang out? Yeah, well, I was in Denver. So I'm from Denver.

I was playing with the Broncos, and then I get cut. So that's like even worse. It's the double smack, you know. Yeah, the hometown team. Man. Home town, yeah. Every time I walk in, and this is like, I'm like, yeah, they've been seeing me their whole life. So now it's like a couple months ago or shit, two weeks ago, it's like, man, we're going to see you on Monday.

You know what I mean? And then now it's like, man, we heard you got cut. And you just walking around there. And everywhere you go, that's what you hear. So, yeah, it got to a point where I was in my mom's basement, like, smoking so much weed. Probably drinking lean every damn day. Like, you know what I mean? It was like I was floating and didn't, I didn't care about like what was going to happen next.

It was to a point where I didn't give it down. You know what I mean? Like I said, if he didn't call me, ain't no telling what would have happened. You feel like that's what it was? Or do you feel like there were other moments that showed you like, okay, I can, I can pivot this way or make this move and get out of the hole that it seemed like you were in? Getting out there and being around just him, you know what I mean? Like, it was like, when I got here, it was, he treated me like I was still in Dale.

Like, you can drive whatever car you want, do whatever you need to do. Just go out there, like hang out. You don't need me. You know what I'm saying. Did you see that he was struggling? I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know. You know me, shit.

I'm just, you know, I'm still playing. And like, like I was saying before, our normal routine was we go to practice. I go to his house, then I go home. if we're going to go out, me and all my brothers, we get dressed, we come to his house, and we all go out. So that's what I was just used to. So then when he left, it wasn't that no more, you know what I'm saying? So, like, you know, I was calling him, I'm calling like, bro, what you got going on?

Because I remember he came out here, but he was hurt. I think he tore his Achilles or something. He came out of here. I had seen him downtown or whatever. And then, like, after that, like, I'm calling him like, bro, when are you coming back? Like, you know what I'm saying? Come out here. And, like, it wasn't, it was a thing.

Like, I'm just, like, come out here for the game or something like that. You know what I'm saying? The crazy thing about it is, like, once he came out here from then on all the way until I retired, like, he was with me. Like, when I left here, I went to the New York. You know what I'm saying? He was with me. Went to Arizona for three years.

He was with me the whole time. You know what I'm saying? So it was just crazy. I didn't know he was going through what he was going through. You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, bro, you tripping, man. I'm like, man, listen, I'm going to call my assistant right now. Book his ticket, man.

I know if I book his ticket, he ain't just going to let me spend my money and not get on the flight. Right. So I bought a ticket. I had my assistant call him or whatever like that. And he came and then ever since then, like, it's jumping up. Did you ever talk to him about you struggling? Like, did you ever catch on and realize he was struggling?

The only reason I continue to, like, Prana is I think it's important. Like, you're like being like a Lindel White figure. Like, you're right. Like, I remember watching you guys, like, you play. And going through what you're going through post football, like, I'm just curious, the entire dynamic of it. There's a lot of guys going through what you're going through right now. Absolutely.

I think, well, he knew, but he, you don't know until. Like, I've, because the role's reversed later on, you know. After 2018, something happened to his, he just got cut on some bull crap. Like, he should have still been playing. But then, like, you basically don't. You get calls, but you ain't playing for no minimum when you two. Like, you know, when you're certain people, you're like, I ain't doing that no more. Like, got to be right.

So it's like when you don't get the calls or the people that you want, like, he ended up going through it on the back end. And then I was there. And I'm like, you know, I, you know, talk to him about it, like going through it. Like, you were 2K, play 10 and you're about to go to the Hall of Fame. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, but he, I think in that moment, that's when he understood, like, what he did for me back then. You know what I'm saying? because you don't really understand why you plan.

None of us do. Man, them checks coming in and the women and the lifestyle. That's what it is. That lifestyle, there's nothing like that. I don't care. You can make all the money in your world, but being an actual professional athlete, the plane rides, the access you have,

there's nothing like that, man. And then when it's cut off, and you be like, damn, I'm just regular Lendale again. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Once you hit a certain point in your life, like there's dudes that grew up on you. Like, there's guys that, like, saw you play.

Like, he'll never. never just be regular old Lendella anymore. And that's what I had to, you know. You had to figure that out for yourself, yeah. Sure. Because, like, I don't know when you guys started playing football, but most kids start playing when they're eight, nine years old. Like, you just, you start playing football and that's all you know.

Yeah, exactly. And you realize, oh, I'm super fast. Oh, I'm real powerful. I can, I can legit make something happen out of this. And it becomes your entire life. Yeah. So you go from spending your whole life, focus on one thing to being, like, done. That's got to be a hard transition.

Definitely hard. To get to the league, at 21 to 23 to playing a career that just doesn't usually last until the average career is three years but let's just say 30 years old and then it's done

like you have more than half of your life left and you spent the entirety of it. Hopefully. Hopefully there's 60 more years to live. Damn. I hope I don't go to 90. That'd be tough. I mean, that's a long time.

I know, but I wouldn't be mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. You know what I'm saying is if you that's just 30 is done. Then you got 60 more. Yeah. Your home boys that we went to school with, they're doctors, they came into state, you know, and they've been in their profession for 15 years now.

They're just to go off of that. To go off of that, like, when you first get in the league and you're like, I just left everybody in college and everyone's like has debt. Everyone has to like go and like make it. You're making 40,000 a year. Then 60,000 a year. And then you play as long as you all did. You're looking at these guys like, okay, now they're making a good living consistently. Like how did I do it?

How did I do with my money? Like what was the deal? Because five years ago, anyone who brought up your name's like, bro, he's killing it. he's this and then eventually it becomes he had great queries retired now. Yeah. And it's just what it is. And people are in the 30s and 40s

and making their consistent living and then it's like as an athlete you come out of it and you kind of, there's just a weird shift of like you don't feel you don't feel like you can like be around them, I guess. Or you feel like they're looking down on you because you're now out of it.

The weirdest thing too for me is like when I'm playing with all my boys in high school and I go to college. Like it's super cool to them. But eventually like you go home one time and it could be like five years after college. It could be three years. years out to college. It could be the first year after college.

And all of a sudden, like, your boys, like, don't even really watch football anymore. They've moved on and, like, don't really like, about football the way you're like, damn, like, you guys aren't in it like this? You didn't watch the game on Sunday? Like, what do you mean? Exactly. This is it, right? Like, and everyone's like, not, man, I'm a plumber. Like, I got plum shit. Like, I got plum shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're living, they're living their lives.

They're living their lives. At first, like, like, you don't, like, I didn't have this mind that I wasn't ever thinking like, man, I'm doing so good in them. but like eventually you get to the end and you're looking. It's like, man, look how well they've done. And so they had no idea what was coming. Like for all of us, it was like in our head written at some point like, okay, we're going to go to the NFL, we're going to play in the NFL. And then we just did it.

Like they had to like go, be like, I'm going to go to the NFL. Like, oh, I didn't even get a scholarship for college. I got to go reroute and find something else to do. And they had to maneuver through all this adversity that like you were going through. And now you're going through. And Willie, you've been played for 15 more years, I feel like, dude. Like, you know, this man's got it's got something going. like crazy with the NFL right now.

So it's just like a wild deal. We're all screwed except for Will. We're all screwed. We said we're in the lab. Yeah. That's all we need. Yeah, that's all we need. You get that credited season?

You're 10 Willie, dude. That's live. For real. Honestly, like, that was always a big thing, too, with the podcast. I remember in 2018 playing on the Titans, and I was a backup, and nobody, usually when you're a backup, you need somebody to go down if you're going to get filmed to where you can get another opportunity.

opportunity of the next year. And so when I didn't get any of that, I was just a special team's guy. I was like, man, I'm going to play for minimum next year. Like, I don't want to have to be on a roster, on a 90-man roster, and make the 53 every year. I don't want to have to do that. So I need to start figuring out what I'm curious about or what I enjoy because this is going to start coming at me faster than I realize. Because when it hits you and it's done, it's like, it's over. Yeah. And there's a part of me that thought like, it might be done then. So I wanted to like get on the podcast wave, like, while you're still like, you know, when you're playing, it's you have more flair, you have more spice, you got more to it.

Your jokes are funny. I say it all the time, your jokes are funny, you're better looking, and you can shake more hands when you're playing. Yeah, exactly. And then when you're doing it outside of plan or after playing, it just, you know the, you know the feel like when alumni or other players come in and talk to the team. Like, sometimes they hit, but sometimes, like,

you know how you in the fellas are in the locker room? Right, man, let it go, get over. Right, as soon as you get in the way, laughing at a dude, like, man, yeah. Yeah. That's a wild deal when people start calling you old. And you literally feel like, I don't even feel like I've been in the league for a couple years. You're like, a old head.

You're like, come on. Yeah, that's a tough thing to hear. That's a tough thing to hear. It's cold. You were talking earlier, like, you guys had your cousin, your brothers, you had your brothers with you. Like, how did that dynamic work when you guys first gone in the league? Was there, like, any turmoil there at first where people, like, kind of reaching out a little bit? Or was it like, this is my obligation to them.

They deserve this. Well, with me, it was crazy. I ain't going to even live. Like, so when I got up here, right, I, um, So I bought a house in Brentwood 10,000 square feet Big money First round

For two So you Taylor knows Oh yeah Relax relax Yeah Yeah The reason why I asked

Is I brought two of my buddies From home too And my brother And I was like You know the show Entourage Yeah I see now

I was like this gonna be my life Dude I'm gonna be living like this Yeah So it was crazy So You know When you first get here

You got You got You got a training camp So I got this house I'd never been in it for her. Right. So my mom came up. She furnished the house and stuff. So as soon as we break camp, I go to the house. Right. I'm in the, I'm like, where the hell? I'm in this big ass by myself. Like, I'm hearing shit. Man, I call my mom. I was getting scared at night.

Yeah. Yeah. I was getting scared at night. I still get scared at night. I'm with you. Yeah. We didn't scared at night. So I had caught. I talked to my brother or whatever. I was trying to give him coming here. He was undecided. So, man, I called my mom. I'm like, man, You got to call my brother, though. They got to come up here. You got to convince them to come up here. So she called my brother them. She convinced them they moved up here.

And then it was, man, it was just crazy. Like, you know, I got three older brothers. So I just been around them all my whole life. Now I'm up here. Like, we're buying. Like, man, we just, we hang in. You know what I'm saying? Y'all come up here.

Y'all good. Y'all ain't got to worry about no bills, no nothing. Come on. We hang in. So it was lovely. I loved it. That's also what they do now? So the crazy thing about,

about it, they still live here. Did they really? I left and they still live here. Nashville does that to you, huh? Yeah, exactly. It really does. It'll take you away. It'll keep you there.

So now I'd be calling them not, try to convince them to move back to Florida. Yeah. They ain't going to where. You're back in Florida now? Yeah, I'm in Florida, Orlando, yeah. They ever thought about coming back to Nashville, stand full-time? Me?

Yeah. Yeah, I thought about it. I thought about it. Not long. Yeah, it sounds like not very long. I thought about it. It had to be like a good business opportunity. Yeah, a good business opportunity

That'll probably do it I don't think I'll come back Just to live, just to be here Yeah If it was a nice business opportunity for me Then I would Yeah Yeah, that's

I mean Nashville I was with a guy yesterday Who played for the Predators And he just retired And he was saying like He was thinking about going home Or whatever But he's like

When I was with the Predators We went to the Stanley Cup finals Like he's like cemented himself In like the culture of Nashville Yeah He's like now that I'm retired Like I still get to reap the best benefits of, like, being a part of something and, like, knowing, like, people knowing who I am.

And, you know, say, how something is simple stuff in, like, an easy time with the DMV. Or, like, getting into the dentist's easy. Like, things just move a little, like, smoother when you've been in a place where you've been able to, like, make it dense socially. Right. You know, exactly. You know? You know, I'm saying? So, like, when you're in Florida, I'm sure stuff's easy for you there, too.

Yeah, it's all good. Did the bills? Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, did the bills ever get, like, you talked about paying the bills and everything else? did they get a little tighter, like, later on in the career? Because I feel like, like, this is a conversation I'm always curious about because everybody in locker room talks about everyone, like, at the end of the day,

seven out of ten guys have financial trouble, like, years after the league. And everybody in the locker room at the time swears everybody's doing fine, like, they got investments going, they got this going. But did it ever get that way for you, like, later in your career or you later in your career? It really wasn't for me because when I left, so I have six years here when I left, they stayed here. You know what I'm saying? So they got their own house, got their own,

they then came up here, started families and all. Yeah. All that. So, you know what I'm saying? So when I end up leaving and going to New York and Arizona, it was just me and him. You know what I'm saying? So, and then not, I was here in 10,000 square foot.

When I went to New York, it was still a little expensive, but it was cheaper for me because I'm just like in a condo. You know what I'm saying? Then when I went to Arizona, I'm in the condo again, you know what I'm saying? So it kind of got cheaper for me when I left. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, for me, I mean, I never made that kind of crazy money. And I definitely was one of those guys that just wanted to look out for my family all the time. So as it got later on, yeah. It got like harder or like once it stopped coming, it's like, oh, shit. Well, you try to let them know. Like, you be like, hey, listen, I need y'all to. They ain't trying to hear that. Yeah.

Yeah. People get easier, yeah. They didn't. Easy way out for so long. They're like, what you mean? I got a might have to work again or help with some mortgage or something. And, you know, you're like, man, yeah, like, it's four years later, man. Like, how much y'all think this money going to last?

I didn't sign for, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's a real conversation. That's even from people that made a lot of money. Because if you, like, the lifestyle you live while you're playing is expensive. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Miami weekends and Super Bowl weekend, it adds up. You know what I mean?

So if you're hanging like that, you've got to just look at it. And make sure you're watching the people watching your money. If you do have that because people steal, you know, we hear about this all the time where you think you're having money and people who are stealing $2, $3 million from your end of your face. So it's like, yeah, you just got to make sure you keep them ducks in the row. I don't care how much money you make. And yes, don't spend it.

Like, it's okay to, you can spend it on you, but you don't have to do it on everybody else. Like, listen, everybody has an opportunity to make their money. Now, if I look out for you, that's what I want to do, but it's not my obligation. Yeah. Yeah. All that new NIL deal stuff coming in college, they should put something in place. Man, I wish I...

They should put something in place to make these dudes like a little more financial... Right. Have a little more financial education. SC, I know I can speak for that, but even we was at Clemson earlier. I mean, you got paid at SC for sure, right? I don't remember. I don't know. Come on now.

Yeah, we've been out for too long. Reggie Bush had a house in Malibu, like, you're all good. You were with Reggie. Like, we got a big cousin. Yeah. Yeah, we ain't time my chance, though. He gave me $100,000. So, we're tying them other people, man.

I'm at $100,000. The mother people, we ain't talking about a chance. We're trying to other people. You know, that's family. He can give you probably. When you were USC, that was like USC. When I was in high school in Arizona, I want to go to USC or Texas or any SEC school besides Spanibald, Kentucky.

But, like, USC was it, dude. And you knew it was going. on, bro. How you can always use into content? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Right now.

He said tell, you know. I'm trying to figure out. I don't know. I might have got some. No one's going to hear this. I wouldn't give it down. I might have made a few dollars. I don't really remember.

Put it like this. Johnny Mansell came on. I was talking about how much money he was making off signing jerseys. Well, Johnny Mansell was, he was. How much was he making? He was, he was social media, y'all. Like, he's the beginning of social media. He was the, you know what I'm saying?

So that was the way Johnny football. He, it was amazing. I can only imagine what he was doing in Texas. Fred Taylor said he had a bag of like, what was it, was it 50? 50,000. From Georgia. Is Georgia or Florida? He went to Florida, right?

He went to Florida. Georgia gave it to him. Georgia gave it too many. He kept it, dude. Yeah, that's what you got to do now. And then still went to Florida. Did you ever have any situations like that at SC around that kind of squad? I mean, we know we just needed to be open about it.

He said, I mean, we're saying. We're coming to you next. Go ahead and get your stories ready because. You're all right. All right. They weren't giving no money to where, you're going. Oh, yeah. My mama, I hear the story about the $750,000 house, and my mom didn't have all that, so I don't know. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I didn't, my parents didn't move when they say we was about to go to the draft, so I don't know, man. Like, you know what car do you drive in college? Alexis, GS-4-100. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The stipends must have been pretty good in California. Right.

I know $1,200 a month to get you. That's crazy, you know? Yeah. That is wild. He was living where? I wish I got paid to college. I was downtown. It was downtown LA living.

Nice condo. We talked about coaches. We talk about boosters. I don't really know what a booster or a coach is. I didn't have. He doesn't know the coach is. All I know is that I had a nice house or a nice apartment. And when I went in there, like, I know that there was somebody left something behind.

I don't know if it was for me or not. But I never told anybody that they left it there and I kept it. What's the most amount of money you've seen left somewhere that you, you know. Here's an example. I didn't know if it was yours or not. Not that we can prove or deny, but what's the largest amount? Matthew Stafford, when he was a junior, was going to go under the draft, and he went to his mailbox.

It was $500,000 sitting there for him. Yeah, $500,000 waiting for him. At his mailbox? At his mailbox. And he left it and went to the draft and $50 million. We're getting the moment. We're getting the moment right now. Probably seem like that.

What's the most amount you've seen? That's crazy. Maybe about a $150. Plus. We're talking. We're talking. We're on the weekend numbers, man. This is all just, yeah, that's, okay.

Rubber bands. Yes, sir. Oh, my God. Getting picked up by Snoop, dog. What's your best story with Snoop? How did you meet Snoop? I went on tour with Snoop. So it's crazy.

One day... I'll have a story off. Yeah, yeah. It's already good. One day, like, we were winning and you, he's always been a ST guy. Him and his wife, Shantay, because her cousin actually went to USC.

He was a safety for us. So they were always around. program and Herschel Dennis was from Long Beach, was the running back. He was pretty big with Hersch, I mean, with Snoop and he knew him. So one time after practice, he's like, I want you to go with me somewhere and I went over there. And like, as I go over there, you know, like, we open up the trailer or whatnot. And I'm like, what the hell's going on?

You know what I'm saying? And we walk in and all I do, he's like, L motherfucking dub you. You know what I'm looking like, what the, you know what I'm saying? I'm freaking out. Like, this is Snoop right now. You know what I'm saying? And he's like, two, one. You know what I mean?

He giving me like Colorado gangster. You know, he just got around. How does he know all this shit? But I'm like, once you know him, you understand that football is what he does. So he knows everybody like that. And he's, you know, he's like, man, you cold. We just start talking and I'm on that plane. I mean, on something like this, getting so high, it's ridiculous with Snoop.

And I ain't know where I was going to turn down that fade. And he passing it when I'm grabbing him, when I'm hitting it. And I just remember at one point, I know I fell asleep for at least 30 minutes, but he probably was used to it because that Cush was crazy strong and I'm coming from Colorado. He's killing people. Man, he was...

He's killing people out there. Before it became super excited, all the crazy names, it was just some OG Cush and that shit used to pound me. I'm like, man. So I'm in there and they're just hanging and I remember the next day.

He's like, man, you come out to the house and come hang out. We're cooking on that. And I'm like, wait, what? And we had the sidekicks. That was the best phone. I swear, and he had the Blackberry Pearl. Those phones had, yeah.

We sent, like, it was crazy, man. And the next day we pull up to the house behind the gates. And I'm just like, this is fucking nuts. I'm hanging out with Snoop Dog. Were you a little bit nervous to go back to the house? Knowing you're going to get so high again? Nah, see, then...

I would have been terrified like, I can't go through that again. No, I was right. And then I'm like, nah, I got something for that. I know how to pace myself. I ain't got to hit every blunt. One time passed, they didn't get it off me, man. But, nah, I was 18. I was so anxious to go to Snoop Dog's house.

Yeah. Then I met, you know, Corday and, you know, his kids, Corey and all them. Like, I knew them. You know what I'm saying? I'm hanging out with them. They coming into the games. They wearing my jerseys. It was crazy, man.

His wife, Chante, was, like, she was one of our big sisters. She would come pick us up, you know, get us some food or whatever. Like, she was nice. Hell, man. It was crazy. I was just like, I can't believe this is my life. And then that was, like, my freshman year. So the whole time I'm at you.

I'm with Snoop. This never stopped. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Picks me up from class. Like, I'll never forget the girls came in there like, man, Snoop dogs outside. You want to take your book bag, walk out there? I did.

We had class checkers and all. At that point, I didn't care, man. I remember Snoke or Pete calling and I'm like, man, it's when Dad with you. And he was like, man, shut up, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'll never forget. How did he handle that? He was mad as hell.

Pete probably used. He called Snoop, but Snoop said that to Pete? Yeah. That is fucking. What do you say? Oh, wow. What do you say to Pete? Yeah, look.

Yeah, wait, later, right, right. He said, it's not good. The funniest shit ever, man. And then, yeah, Pete was pissed off of me. Me and Pete had a relationship like that, though, man. Like, he was my guy, but at the time time, he knew. Like, I just wasn't under that same Pete's shit. He didn't woo me like he wooed everybody.

He wooed the hell out of me, dude. I went out there for a junior day and out. He gave me a hug when I first minute? I was like, yes. You know what I mean? No, I was doing that. Now, the man know how to get it out tonight. Bro, he does.

The man's the ultimate. I call him the finesse guy because he can make anything look like something else now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He got out of there right before he got a little dicey this. What a genius. It makes sense, right? Yeah, absolutely.

You know, the coach is getting trouble. I'm like, how do the running back coach? If the running back coach knows something, then somebody else knows something. Not Pete. Not Pete at all. Not Pete. He was gone, dude. He was out of there.

Talking about, went up there. Got that good money. And he's killing at Seattle now He had Gino Smith As a quarterback He's got him looking like that first rounder Yeah he got him looking Yeah

He got Gino looking good Everybody in Seattle's so happy He got Russ looking like man Bronco country ain't riding No they are not riding right now Poo La Roo bro He's looking bad dude Yeah

Yeah pizza stud He's a stud Yeah That's my guy People always ask me about him And like my time with him And it's like man I wouldn't trade that shit for the world

Like what we did and accomplished, just like, why would I never, I only wanted to play for him then. Yeah. I mean, but that was also before it became Pete Carroll. Yeah. You know what I mean? Once you win back to back and you playing the three straight national champions and then you, you know, like, that's the beat Carol. That's Pete Carroll now. You know what I mean?

I knew him when he, like you said, and you come in your mom's room and he's, you know, honest with you and he's telling the truth. I knew his wife. I knew Brennan Carroll. I knew it. Like, you know, I'm staying at the beach house. This is like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I knew him. And then he traded for me in Seattle, and then he cut me.

That's the crazy story. How did that conversation go when he got here? Marksson Lynch. How weird is that? Marshall's pretty good. I mean, but you picked the same, like, come on. At this time, it's like, bro, I talk shit, he talks shit. You know what I mean?

But that conversation was like a crazy one. I cuss his ass out, man, because I was so angry at him because, like, man, I know the NFL was a business, but when you're playing with a guy that knew you since you was a baby. Yeah. Like, man, you've been knowing me. Like, so I would have thought the way he cut me was a piece of shit. Man, I'm literally, I just practiced OTAs. This is Memorial weekend, y'all.

It's supposed to be a great weekend. We're going to Vegas. Yeah. Everybody's going to Vegas. He knows that, man, I'm walking off the field. It's me, Mike Williams, Kenichu, Daisy, and Steve Sarkis. Because Sark was coaches for Washington at the time. So it's like a big-ass S-E reunion.

I hug him all, never forget. He's like, hi, man, enjoy your time. Do all that. I'm like, all right, two feet. I'll see you later, whatever. You know what I'm saying? I land in Vegas. I go to the hotel, you guys.

That's true-ass story. I'm looking at a sports center with all. Imagine being there with every one of your old teammates or whoever. Yeah. What? He cut. That's how you found out you got cut? What?

And he hugged you. He hugged you. He was a hand and have a baby. It's the same day, right? It's the same day. It's the same day. Oh, my God. This is four hours later.

It's five from Seattle to Vegas. I go in TV and I'm looking this. Never forget it because Drew calling me, Drew Rosenhouse, this is maybe like an hour after I land in Vegas, but I'll go down there and Drew's like blowing me up and I'm like, what the thing is he won? And finally I answered it. He's like, man, what do you do down there?

I'm like, I don't know, but clearly I'm seeing it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would have thought at least he would have called me. I'm like, he don't owe me shit. Let's be real. Like, you know, once you're in this business, you know, they don't owe you anything. But my relationship with him thought he would at least call me like,

man, listen, whatever you did at practice or your mind ain't here, I don't want you on a team right now, I don't think you're ready for what I got. Yeah. I would have handled it away better, but to see my name on TV and I know who you are,

like, that shit was cowardish to me. Like, to me that was like, and that's what I expressed to him. I'm MFed him. You told him. What? I called him, yeah. Really?

He picked up? Yeah, he knew he had to. Yeah, I don't know if I would have picked out. I'd been like, I'll get that on Monday. I'll get that up to the weekend. But he's, that's what I'm saying, He's a finesse. Yeah.

Oh, man, man, you know, he's doing all that shit. And I'm just, like, so angry. But I know who this guy is. Right. So, like, I don't know why I'm that angry. You know what I'm saying? Because I know who he is. It's the same guy.

Like, I know him. But still, I would play for that guy all over again. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? It's just a moment of being that angry. At that Seattle shit, no, I would have never, no. I would have never left Tennessee.

I'd have told Jeff Fisher. No, I ain't going. I'm voided. I mean, if you're getting traded, don't you have to go? I don't have to show up. Yeah. He requested. Remember,

you're going to trade in Detroit, right? He said they were to trade me in Detroit. I'm retiring. Yeah. That's crazy. You're requesting a trade, right? But listen, that's what I think. Yeah, he requested.

But yeah, I'm being young and dumb back then, but also you got to think this is Quentin trade. It's 2K. But also, yeah, when I get a, when I request the trade, he just ran for 2K, you damn right. I better get the hell up out of here. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah.

So at the same time, y'all. You're saying it wasn't anything. But knowing what I know now, I would have took my Rockefeller hush up money, man. You know what I'm saying? Give me my little four or five million. He's the guy. I'm okay to backing him up. You know what I'm saying?

I don't need CTE, although we probably all got it. But you know what I'm saying? Well, hold on, hold on. You know, don't put the evil on us. I don't put the evil on us. Hey, I'm just being, you know what I'm saying? Some stuff for that. Yeah, man, but yeah.

Like, I asked Jeff, and I can't lie. Me and Jeff, I had a great relationship with Fish, man. Seems like everyone did. Seems like everyone loved Jeff. He did. Dude, I called him one day, like, man, like, what do you think I should do about the situation? He was like, man, Linda, whatever you really want to do. He was like, man, you know what he's doing right now.

It's not like we're going to bench him right now. You would definitely still get carries. But I'm thinking at this time, I'm still in number one. Right. So I'm like, yeah, I need a, yeah, I need a fresh start somewhere. And then on draft day, I get called from Pete. Y'all don't understand. I'm ecstatic.

I'm like, damn, my old coach is traded for me. Yeah, that would be sick. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, hell yeah. You got a great relationship with him. You think that's good now? Second round pick. I'm like, I'm going back to home.

Yeah. And all the fucking coaches are there, y'all. The same guys from SC are there. Yeah. You know what I mean? He also smart getting out of there. And it's crazy because, like, yeah, like, I think they, I'm in the league now, guys. I'm not that little Lendale, you know what I'm saying?

Like, y'all knew here. Y'all are rookies in the league. Like, how are you going to, you know what I'm saying? I know you a coach, but you're a rookie coach now. Yeah. Don't come in here. Like, and it was crazy. He went up to Seattle cutting everybody.

It was like me, Lofa Tupu, Tujan, like he was trying to get, like, you know what I mean? People that wasn't on that shit that he was on, he was like, yeah, they got to go. But, you know, like, man, I just thought it was going to be a matchmaking. Like, I just knew it because I know the offense. Like, I know what the hell is going on. My old coach, Sherman was the, my coach, my rookie year,

was the running back coach now there at, you know, Seattle. So I'm just thinking it. We had Quintanthor out there with me. Kevin Vickerson, I traded with. So I'm like, man, I'll be cool. I got people here with me. Yeah, all right.

What? I'm cut. Yeah. Sounds like you could have done that a lot better. Bro, it's on the TV, on ESPN. At least even at the end of that practice, hey, man, come into the office real quick. Yeah.

Yeah. If there's anything you did that led to it, like you felt like you slacked off the opportunity a little bit. I probably, knowing like you were going back to all your old coaches. You're kind of a big dog on. Longer leash. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I probably, I probably, yeah, I probably, yeah, I probably did do that, not knowingly. Right at the time, yeah. I probably thought I was, like you said, the big dog around it. But I'm, yeah, like you said, these are my strength coach from, I've been knowing y'all for the last, this 10 years.

What are you talking about? If there is an issue, y'all should be like, Lindell, let me holl that you. You're able to bring you in the room, yeah. Right, the new guy that y'all come in and you ain't like, you know my mom. Y'all sent me, you know my grandma's sick. Like, y'all knew, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. What are you talking about?

Man, so you cut me, man, and it's crazy. I went home. I'm in Denver. just chilling like you know what I'm saying how the rest of that weekend in Vegas go you shake it off you know yes and no yeah it's hard to shake it off but I'm yeah

I probably I don't know I think I did some molly and all kind of shit so of course I shake it off feeling a whole lot better huh I was trying to shake you I was trying to hang out yeah but then you know imagine that Molly and you realize your ass got cut you yeah well you don't realize you got a Molly until Molly's gone no yeah no you know

no you notice I don't know I'm with Reggie, I'm with CJ, I'm with everybody in the league. Yeah, Donald McNabb. There go Javon, cursing. Yeah.

Guess who cut, though, hang me? You know what I'm saying? So naturally, that Molly started getting you. They're like, they're like, you all right. You're like, you're all right, man, man. I ain't paying for shit, though,

this weekend. Fuck y'all, you know what I'm saying? You didn't pay for a thing, did you? Not nothing. I had a boy. I ain't got nothing, man. Yeah. Nothing, man.

So, how did you feel for him? You were with him in Vegas? I think my dog, he knew, so he ain't been punking the Giants. He'd been getting all kind of free money all year. I ain't coming to camp unless you all get me five moments. So he's like, yeah, I got you, though, man. I'm like, I think this a bitch, but I'm fine.

We can't. He said he was punking the Titans. Was there ever any, like, animosity with y'all too in the room, like as he started to take over the RB1? Hell no. Bro, that's what's so crazy about. Let me be real with it. And this is for any kid or anybody looking out there.

Like, you can't be mad at greatness. I play with Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Like, how, like, imagine that in your career. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? But also, I got to witness some of the dopest, you know what I mean, two of the greatest running backs ever, but they also helped me elevate my game. So, like, and I've seen how hard this man worked, y'all.

Like, I was one of the dudes at the Titans, like, yes, on Monday, yes, as soon as they say you can break, I'm breaking. I'm trying to go to, you know, hang out Mondays. I'm trying to get tipsy and have a good time. Whatever. I walk by the rooms. He and, you know, the good boy, you know what I mean? Finescing.

Come on, bro. Talk in there. He's a naked. A man, makes the doors are open. A man, he ain't really watching. Bro, I'm watching, bro. I'm watching, bro. I'm watching.

I'm watching. You know, look. And then you go back into the training room. You're like, what I thought you said you about the meeting. Yeah, I got to be. I'm seeing about two hours. I'm like, what? I never caught up.

on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Naturally, when you see it in a year later, Nick's like, it makes sense. But, no, again, you can't, I can't be mad at that. Yeah, that's hard work. That's dedication. Like he said, he came from ECU.

Maybe my USC and being that big dog probably got to me. You know what I mean? He had to work a little harder. He wasn't on the radar. He wasn't Reggie. You know what I'm saying? And then coming here and seeing that, like, he's like, I'm playing with Linda.

I probably got to turn up anyway. You know what I'm saying? So, and he was cold. I mean, the first game I ever seen him play, what was the preseason? Did you play the right? Rounds. Rounds game. Right.

Man. I mean, you ran for over a thousand your rookie year, right? Yeah. I mean, basically, I heard of your own thing. Bro, the first, I'm telling you from the first preseason game, if you under, if y'all know football, man, when you see how he boom, boom and ran over it and kept going, like, was it, like, oh, my God. Yeah.

You think I'm in trouble. Man, in my head, I'm like, how the hell? Like, how did I go from Reggie to this dude? Yeah, that's got to be fucking tough. And he's running crazy. Yeah. Like, it ain't no, I'm bouncing. It's like, I'm trying to drop the shoulder.

I'm like, how does little dude want to run with power all of a sudden? Yeah. That was ridiculous, bro. I was trying a little dude. I was $1.19. Yeah. On a great day. On a great day.

He's lying or telling the truth. He's lying. He's lying. Bro, go look at them. Ask him. Yeah, yeah. Well, Steve used to help him with his weight, too. That's what I was right.

I won the line? Bollerson? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Waterson put the five-pound plate in your pocket. I wasn't allowed to be under $195, though. Okay, well, so, okay, 190. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

I wasn't allowed. I was going to get a bugger. I was going to lie, though, but the crazy thing he looked out for me. The crazy thing, my, man. Yeah, I heard some crazy stuff about Fisher. Like, Kenny Britt would go into Fisher's office, but I'm not working out today. I'm like, all right. I don't know about that.

Really? It wasn't, like, people weren't just talking out like that. But, I mean, if you had a relationship with it like that, Like, I'm sorry he'll probably be like, man, chill out today. Yeah, yeah. Fish was like that. And you didn't have to do that to fish because he understood the vibe of the team. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, man, that's got to be, that's a tough situation. He had to witness greatness, though. Witness. And I got to see, like, I've seen 2,000 yards. Like, you know, that's like crazy. I've seen it. Right. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. It's only happened eight times. That's pretty incredible. Two of them on the Titans, too. You hear me? That's wild. That's incredible. Yeah.

And I've seen it. I watched it. All purpose shards in the history of the game. You know what I mean? That's crazy. Man, going to that 2000 yard thing, when you were a couple years ago

when Derek was running and he was going on the mission for 2000, what was your like, how did you feel about it? Were you just like, all right, get 2000, but don't break my 2000? No, I wanted it.

Yeah, like, man. You wanted him to get the record record. Yeah, like, man, I used to talk. Like, not used to, I still talk to him all the time, but like, especially that year when he was going. Yeah. He's talked to him for every game.

Really? Every game. And it was crazy because not last year. I think it was two years before, like, before they was feeding him like that, I came here to an alumni weekend and we was here. And I was, I forgot who I was talking to. I think I was talking to Art at the time. One of the coaches, I'm like, man, y'all have to feed Derek.

Because at this time, they was, you know, five carries. DeMarco Merle. DeMarco Merle. He went 1600. Yeah, he went 1600. And, like, they was ready to give up on Derek. Mm-hmm. They was ready to give up on Darren.

I'm like, man, trust me. I know they were when Dionne Lewis was here. Yes. Yeah, because Derek got, I don't know if the bench is the right word, but he was... I mean, sort of. Remember, we'd be in the locker room. Yeah, Derek was starting. Yeah, Derek was mad as hell.

He was mad, man. Yeah, I'm like, man, he's the type of back. I'm like, we're different. We're not the same size, but I'm like, he's kind of like me because we're the type of bat. You can't give us five carries here, five a carry there. man. Feed him.

You got to feed him. And I'm getting to grow. You know what I'm saying? Give him 20, 25 touches. 30 touches. I'm like, once y'all do that, y'all going to see what type of player he is. And then that next year, that's when they started giving them carries.

Yeah, 2019, 2020, he went off. He went crazy. Wow. And it's just wild because it was ready to give up on him. Isn't that crazy? It was ready to give up on there. But the world kind of like, like everybody was kind of like where, you know, Where's Derek? Heism trophy winner.

And that's what they were saying at the time. They were like all the Alabama backs like, yeah, they'll do good and, you know, and get the awards, but then they get in the league, you know, somehow, some way they fall off. But then all of a sudden... Trent Richardson was right before him. And that was a huge... That was tough. Yeah, that was tough.

You kind of just accumulate the baggage a player has before you. Alabama's at the most bus in the league. But I also want to know, like... I have so many more draftics than everybody else for you. Yeah, yeah, but still, you know, probably more percentage, though. right? Yeah, no, I mean, so he hits the 2,000 yards, which brings us to the topic of who's the best back in Tennessee history.

The best back? Best back. Best running back, yeah, who is the best running back? There's really three to go off of, right? Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans history. Tennessee Titans history. Or Euler Titans.

I mean, you got to put Earl C. Earl is Earl. I know, but I mean, because you tweeted yesterday, you said Derek is already the goat, but today he cements his. goateness in the in the yeah he didn't he didn't he didn't get those two touchdowns i needed him to get killed my fantasy he killed you got 16 points oh yeah i mean it's solid still but this man be on there too i this is he don't watch the game for nothing other than man did he who scored you know i know i had travis kelsey he scored touchdown they called it back for

holding yeah yeah i saw that i saw that touchdown yeah but all right let's just go you go you you want to do you you want to say my order yeah what's your order so i'm just going to go Titans because I don't know enough about spoilers. Who you? I would go Derek one. I would go you two and Eddie George three. Not in that,

not only when I said that, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. I had to look in your eyes when I said that because it hurt me to say it to you when we just met. But that was. Why, okay, yes it is, though. Why is Derek your one?

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Before we get in that, what's your order? One through three. One through three? Yeah. I would go, me, Derek, then Eddie. Okay. Me?

I'm saying you, Eddie, then Derek. Oh. You know that Eddie didn't miss for like the first eight years, he didn't miss games. You know. That's what I'm talking. But hold on. If we're talking, even you, so you know your history.

Let's do this. Because he's probably one of the, I don't know, five or six players that start off his first six, seven seasons with over a thousand yards. Right. So that's what I'm saying. How many are you rushed for overall?

Overall, I think. Just like right under 10,000. Just with the Titans? Yeah. I think with the Titans, like 7,000. Seven thousand. And Derek's at 7,000 now. How many years has you been with the Titans?

This is the seventh year. Okay. And he missed. Eddie George, seven out of the eight years with Tennessee, over a thousand. Okay. Eddie was a different animal. I mean, basically, he was. And this is no disrespect to Eddie.

I hope people that he's not seeing this thinking. See, that's my guy. But you play with Derek. I play with Derek. Yeah, I play with Derek. Yeah, so that's my question. Why is, why Derek first? Yeah, why it's number one?

The reason why I think Derek is one of the most dominant running backs of all time. Right. I think that, I think his 2,000 yards, well, I know you got the 2,000 yards, but I think if you play 30 games, you have 3,400 yards and 30 touchdowns. In his last 30 games, he's done that. and he's like that consistently. Right. I know his first two years, obviously weren't what you wanted to be

because he had guys in front of him and the whole Dion Lewis thing. I just think it's probably got to be some recency bias, too. I mean, I've played with him. I helped him get those yards. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. So I think from a running back,

handing the ball off, here's the ball, go run. He's probably top five back ever. Right. But then I think the threat you had of catching the ball, any other to catching the ball, and that way, I can see where the edge comes there. I can see the edge. But I still got to go Derek.

That's my boy. That's my guy. Not a whole lot of information I gave up there. Not a whole lot of information I just gave up. Derek, that's my guy, man. That's my guy. He's a beast. He's a stunt.

And if you look at him right now, he's like, he's only, like, Ben Jones is in year 11. the center. Everybody else is under your four. Like he's playing with dudes that don't have a lot of experience. In the last four games or three games, he's still ripping off over 100 yards. Right. Right. And he hasn't didn't catch a strike yet. He's like, he's the only dude

I've ever seen that the more you give him the ball later in the season, the stronger and more dominant he gets. He's stronger and stronger and stronger. Yeah, the playoffs. I mean, 2019. Patriots went crazy. Baltimore went crazy. Like he's just, it was insane. It was insane to see. So it's hard for me to sit here being a part of all that.

watching all that and then having to say, all right, like, this person's got the edge. Yeah, hey, because get wet, because it's, because it's got wet. You ain't played with me, though. That's true. But hang on. Yeah. I bet if Michael Ruse was on this, in this room right now, he'd say you. Yeah, he would definitely say.

I know Mike would say that. You'd think so? It's with Mike, but I'm... Man. Was you there yesterday? Yeah, he was there. Yeah, but the reason why I would say me number one, I would, I had 2,500 yards. Nobody ever done that.

That's catching and running, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's impressive. I'm saying? 2,500 yards. Yeah, that is fucking crazy. Yeah. The year I went for 2,000 yards, I had 500 receiving yards.

Yeah, that's wild. Hey, Will, back me up. I had 500 yards and 500 receiving. Yeah, like I... What's your order? I respectfully disagree with it, Derek. I think Derek is three on the list when you talk history of the Titans. I think if there's one year, if you're going to have one year with one running back,

It's kind of like Tom Brady-Pa-Many argument. I'd take Manning and one year over Tom Brady, but collectively in a career, you're not going to argue Tom Brady. I think I... You just made this man so happy with that damn comment about... Do you say Peyton over Tom? Y'all got to be... Hang on, hang on. Let me finish, though.

I think the same thing with Derek. I mean, that $2,500 all-purpose, that's now that I'm thinking about that. I'm like, that's kind of tough. But Derek's... Because he happens as a receiving threat, too. Yeah, Derek's one year of going over 2000. It's like, who was stopping that man at all. No one.

But in his history of being a Titan, he only has right at the moment three years of over a thousand yards. You're talking to like he's had his first six. Like Derek, it took three years to get to a thousand. He did it his rookie year. Eddie George, eight out of his nine years or seven out of his eight years was a thousand-yard runner. Like every year. I would say Derek's three in the history of Tennessee tights. Derek's my boy.

Like, again, this is hard to say. I know he's a tier one. He watches this podcast. I would take Derek in one year of the three running backs. Like, hey, if we're going to hand the ball off, we're going to build it around the run game. I disrespect to you because you're a fucking king in your own right. I would take Derek.

But in history, I think Derek is three. I would probably go, the 2,500 kind of makes it confusing. Because outside of that, running the ball, I would say it goes, Eddie, you, Derek. But with the receiving, it's like, you know, take your pick. They're all great. But that's my, I think it's hard to say Derek's the top five most dominant running back ever. Because, again, He's got a career to put together more.

He's got to continue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as dominant, it's like, yeah, he's the fucking- You're running into the Aaron Donald argument. Yeah, yeah. People say Aaron Donald's the most dominant did it all times and say, well, he needs more years to prove that. Yeah.

Especially when you're stacking them up against, like, Reggie White and those guys who have just a resume year after year. I hear that. Yeah, but when I come about it, like, my thing is like, I wonder, I wonder what it was, like, Like, why they didn't, why they didn't give Derek the keys to the, know what I'm saying, to the car? Like, yeah, why?

In what way? In what way? In what I'm saying? Like, why wasn't, paying him? No, no, no, no. Why wasn't he starting? Like, clearly we know Derek was the guy. Oh, you know what I'm saying?

Why wasn't he getting the opportunity? Like, you were through? The first three, yeah, the first three years, yeah. I think when Derek first came in, DeMarco Murray, we traded for a fourth round pick from the Eagles. DeMarco comes in. He was coming off the Cowboys year, too. He went to the Eagles, had a tough year at the Eagles, not as good of a year. And that's why we got him for a fourth round pick.

He comes in. Now you have a back who knows all the systems, like just nose ball better, probably at that point. And I think like, there's things that you have that are undeniable, your quickness and speed were undeniable. You could put you on the field and be like, all right, this guy's going to figure it out. He's going to find the hole somewhere. Derek is a guy that if you get him into his fourth or fifth step and keep that line of scrimmage clean, that's when he gets the yards. that's when he's going to make those dominant runs. So I think with DeMarco is easier to plug and play him in the beginning.

Now, I'm talking out of my ass right now. I really don't know. This is my assumption. This is the year before you got there? No, I've been here for nine. Right, but I'm saying when you say you're talking about your ass, are you talking about a year right before you got there? Are you talking about when you were here?

No, when I was here, Derek got drafted in 16. I got drafted in 14. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. That's kind of crazy. That's kind of disrespectful. Well, I'm just saying you're not really talking out of your ass as much then. Well, the only is my way I'm saying I'm talking about, I might be talking out of my ass.

The only is why I'm saying that is because I wasn't in Derek's head. I don't know what he was picking up and not picking up. I was in that running back's room. So now I'm making a bunch of assumptions saying, hey, how is this really working? Then the next year, I'm not, I don't know. I think it kind of goes to what you were saying before. Like, you guys aren't the kind of backs you give five touches to. And we were still kind of transitioning from like, we were running the ball a lot,

we were running a lot more duo, a lot more gap scheme, a lot more stuff that, you know, for whatever reason, Dion was doing a better job of in the beginning. But I don't, I'm not judging Derek on like his slower start. I'm saying this dominant player just continuously, like, take 25, not slowing down at all. And it's just continually being like that dude over and over.

Yeah, yeah. Deon was a B-Soo coming out of New England. Yeah, he was. And he was straffing. His feet were this big, but he was straffy, bro. And they would throw in the ball. At times, you felt like, Eric was trying to do like, do I need to be more of a guy like that?

Instead of being like, hey, this is who I'm going to be. I'm going to run it. Yeah, and I ask that because I know, like, a lot of it was just opportunity. Right. He wasn't given the opportunity. So I'm not saying he wasn't good when he first, the first years, but I'm just saying I wonder why they waited so long to give him the opportunity. It makes sense with the DeMarco-Murray thing.

But then when he leave. So he has his rookie year the way he has his rookie year with DeMarco. When you're in practice, like even when you're in practice, Derek's gonna take some time to get going and practice a little bit. So if you're going through camp and they're splitting reps,

what are they getting? 10 reps each at practice? You're not going to be able to see, oh shit, we can give this guy the ball over and over and over again. Right, right, right. So now you're going through the season

making these guys switch off a little bit. Derek's, he comes in, starts to warm up, gets back out, then he has to go big in, re-warm up and stuff like that. And I don't know what your back situation was like. Obviously, I mean, you were there,

but like when you got the ball, you hit that 69-yard run in a preseason game, people are probably saying, okay, we're cooking with something here. There was never that big flash of something with Derek in the beginning of those two years for the coaches to look and say, oh, we can give you this ball 25 times a game.

You know? Right, right, right. So maybe that plays a little more into it. And as a coach, you can't be like, damn, I can't believe you guys didn't see it. It's like, how are you going to see that? Like, you have no idea. You know, you're just kind of hoping.

And when Derek first got to the league, they show clips of him at practice, like tripping over bags and shit. Like, this dude looks like a baby deer for a second. You know what I'm saying? He was just like so big. I was like, dude, this is a D-N. Right, right, right.

He's, like, come into his own. Like, it's crazy to say about a Heisman trophy winner, but, like, he comes in the first two years, and it's like, good for him that those first two years went like that. Right. Because then he still balls out those next two years, gets paid, and he's got more trend in the tires for the long run. And it's like, Derek's one of those dudes where he's like a, like, you know backs.

You all know, like, there's only so many hits you guys got. And with him, it's like, where's the slowdown? Like, where do you see him slowing down at all? Like there's nothing. Even with this foot stuff. Will calls, is this like, is this like the end of Derek?

Like, is this, is this, is the last we're seeing in this man? It's like, shows up and look at him again. He's doing it again. Right.

You know? And the numbers aren't crazy right now. Yeah. They never are in September, middle of October. Never. Yeah. They're never that way.

He's sitting at what right now? Like, 500? I mean, he's the fact that, like, yeah, he's had, how many of what thousand yards season is three?

But last year, like, last year, didn't count because he got, He got stopped at 9-10-year-old. He would buy him in a record rushing all-time. No question. He was at 954 after seven games. Yes, and that's the craziest thing about it, man.

We talk about this all the time, right? He doesn't get hurt. I don't think this argument's not as big as what it is. He doesn't, you know what I'm saying? But then you play ifs all at time, buddy. Yeah, but he would be at four years in a row of over 1,000 yards. And not only that, but he did it. Two years in a row.

Two-two-thous and two-k-k. He's getting touchdowns. He did two years at two-k, Yeah, he's the number one in history. But we, I'm glad that you said that because we talk about that all the time. Like, once we go for 2,000 yards and you come back and go for, if you don't go for 2,000 yards again, and you go for 1,300, they're like that. He's, he's not a lot.

Yeah. Oh, I ran for 1,300 yards. Yeah. Great. How did you find out? That's why, yeah, it's awesome. That's why when you talk about now, they're like, oh, he has a slow start, this and that. But look at the-

They're so easy to forget in the league. They're so easy to forget what happens. They forget that quick. Go back to the 2000-yard season. The numbers were similar. Right, exactly. At this time. Yeah.

Four years in a row with double-digit touchdowns too. Right. They make it seem like he got. He carries that motherfucker. 200 resting yards right now. Like, violent, bro. Right. And Derek's not like, as big as he is, he's not a.

like a bulldoze you over type of dude. He does a great job of just having arm tackles left and right, like moving them hips just a little bit. Right. You know what I'm saying? Not a big jump cut guy, but he can get down. Right. He's been running a little more mean.

Got the new hairstyle. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, I never seen emotion like that from there. Yeah, never seen emotion like that. And yeah, he's just about his business. Yeah. But I think he doesn't get hurt next year.

Like, we're not having this conversation. One thing, you had Eddie at, too, right? No, I was here when Chris Brown When you ranked him You had Eddie at two And you had Eddie at two.

Yeah, for me It's all about longevity Like continuing to second years Like again, you have one year with one of those guys I'm choosing Derek

Now I think part of the Eddie George being three to you and me I don't know if this is for you but maybe it's like so much time has gone by you don't appreciate it as much Right, right

That could be it A little bit Because Eddie was a stud Bro Oh he was But how can I I can't put Eddie over somebody that went for 2,000 yards. As a running back, I'm with him.

If you go to 2K, you automatically get the edge. You can't. You can't. Eddie at 3 then? I probably, yeah. No, I think you. I did. You had Eddie at 2 at 1.

I might have to come at 3 thinking about the 2K. How can you do that? Different. We all, as a running back, you grow up your whole life. I'm like, I'm going to do 2,000 yards. That's what I'm doing. Like, so when you do 2K and you call even, but, I mean, this dude's running for 4,000 yards this whole life.

So Derek Henry, he's been doing his thing. Bro, he went in 2K in high school, 2K in college, 2K and NFL. Only person in the world to ever do that. Yeah. I went 3K, I went 3K in college. Okay. And 2,500 in the league. Yeah, but you know, he's the argument. The 2K

argument's valid. Yeah, that's valid. Matter of fact, I might have to switch mine. I might have to go 83, not Derek too. Yeah. But to give Eddie his flowers a dude was fucking dominant for so long. He was lovely. Eddie was lovely, man. We had to hear the transition, like, how hard it would be to be playing somewhere. and having to move, but not only having to move, like the Rams went from St. Louis

to L.A., you're going to move, and then go play in Memphis and drive two hours. You go to Memphis. Come back. A practice at Vanderbilt. You're doing meetings in the room like this. Right. He worked through that adversity and still was so dominant. Man, Eddie was great, man. Eddie was great. And he ran so hard.

Like, man, it was... Man, I still remember... He was on the Madden cover. Dreamcast. Did y'all have a dream cast? No, I had a dream cast for a minute, but I was never on it. No, but, no, but Dreamcast, that year when Ed was, no, but I'm saying, you know the Dreamcast, you know, that ain't the old place, you're right, Nintendo's four, I was all about it before.

Well, that year when Dream, like, it went around on, but Eddie was the best running back on the game that year. No, yeah, Eddie was that. When Dreamcast, yeah, it was Eddie and Marshall for. Marshall. Marshall was a monster. Marshall. That was right.

She can go off one game, one Dreamcast game when I play NCAA, back in the day. I was the best running back in the league. You know what I'm saying? You couldn't touch me. You couldn't touch me back. It was great, though, man. That's my boy.

But, yeah, that's why I got to go with Derek, too, because he had the 2,000 yards. So, I respect that. So he goes, so if Derek goes a couple more years over 1,000, would you tip the calf to him?

Would you bend the knee? As far as what? Him 1. He won? I can't do that. If he break my record, yeah. Oh, you say if he breaks your record? Yeah.

You're lucky he got hurt. last year. What I mean record? $2,500? Oh, $2,500. Yeah. I don't know if he had a got $2,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The man doesn't really catch like that. No, no, no, that's all purpose. All purpose. Okay, so he beeps you on the rushing yards, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on now. Yeah, like 20 more yards. Yeah, see what I'm saying? Yo, man, okay, man. No, you see that, that's a whole other, that's a whole other, that's a hundred yards. And guess what? And guess what? And guess what?

Guess what? In the last game, I had a 70-yard touchdown call back. So you're the broke though. And it wasn't even holding. How are you? I was hot, bro. I feel like every person got there if, you know, he didn't play in the second. No, but, bro, it wasn't a holding call.

What was it? I would be Erudicerson record. Yeah. But hold on, hold on, what happened? What was the call? It was, so on our fullback. So we was running the inside zone. So we threw the, um, so in this game, we threw it in where we do the toss.

You toss it. and Amahaw come up, him and the linebacker, me, head up, bum. You block them. And they call holding on him. Probably just fails. Can we pull that film up? Is there a way to pull that up right now? They called holding on them.

It wasn't else. This screen hasn't been on the whole time, by the way. It's the crazy thing about it. Guess what? The next year, you know how they come and talk to us. The goddamn Ralph come to us at the thing. Did it apologize? Yes.

Bro, how hot? How mad were you, bro? I was so mad because, listen, going, to that game, everybody knew I wanted to get 2,000 yards, but... How far away were you going into the game? Huh? How far away? I needed 130 yards. But we all

said, man, forget that we're going for the overall record. Yeah. We went for the overall record. So in the second quarter I broke for 70. Called it back. This was your 2K year? Yeah.

That would have game in the middle. That would have got him the rushing game. He would have broke Eric Dickson. got two care he got the bro he got his two kids he needed like 230 he got it to last 30 he needed a 230 I watched that game yeah he he didn't bro yeah I need it

yeah I need it in the crazy thing about it I didn't even know that I broke that I um the 2,500 I didn't even know that I had a martial fault record to the next day oh really yeah I only care about the 2,000 yards yeah then the next day I'm getting an interview yeah they interviewing me and they

asked me about I'm like what with my total I didn't even know with my total yards was. That's crazy. They're like, yeah, you brought it. I think Marshall had like 24, 23, and I finished with 2509. You didn't even submit yourself as number one

until you learn that said about yourself. No, I still woulda. You say you didn't even know. No, but I still would have just off of my 2000 yard year. I think, I'm the only guy, hey, listen, I'm the only guy in history with like 8, 80-yard runs. Two-story. I think, like, Derek gets another double-discy touchdown year.

Derek's one of, like, five people to have a 90- 99-yard run. Right, right. And dudes had like... He had a 98 and 90-year-old. I was going to say... I think Derek's like, if he gets double digits this year,

which he will, he gets like, if you get at least 1,500, which I think he will, I think there's a strong argument. He goes down. He now becomes... Because, again, he's stacking...

That's five years ago. Say last year. Last year's 950. But everyone knows if he doesn't get hurt, he's... But that's the if, like you say, if I was the thing when they call my... Listen.

That would mean, Five years in a row. Hey, but listen. Hey, but check this out. If you don't call my touchdown back, I probably have $2,600. Yeah. And if he don't get hurt in Arizona, you know, telling how many overall yards you have for your career and that would be another thousand yards of season.

Would you have overall your career, $11,000? No, I had like $97,900 rushing, and then I got like $12,000 all purpose. Yeah, what is your total? Yeah, you were kind of getting part right there. I remember practicing it in Nebraska, and we'd always talk about, like, dances and celebrations and everyone's doing your fucking...

What? God, bro. Yeah, sir. Yeah, that's... Massive Titans fans. Massive Titans fans. Me and the Pac-Man, you should do that dance. Man.

That's the talk about in the back of the back field. Listen, that's... Think that preseason right there? No, that's... No, that's jazz. My rookie year, Washington came to... Tennessee for first game of the preseason. You ended, like, basically, and he hit you too, though, but you fucking hurt his ass.

Philip Thomas, he was a rookie of safety from Washington. You guys met in the hole and fucking he tore his shoulder. Yeah, you hear that, my man? Yeah, pressure. I can't wait to go tell this man, because his kids, they go, maybe sometimes they want to drop that shoulder, but I be telling him, you can hurt somebody doing it, man. It'll hurt them, way more than it hurts you when you running that full speed. How high.

How high, man. How do you, okay, look, watching this video, watching the old uniforms, how do you feel about the new, new tight uniforms? Man, they love the old one. They love it. I like them. You like the new ones? Yeah, I like the new ones. And the good thing about it, see, back then, like, they let them, you can wear whatever type of shoes you want and all.

Yeah. We was always trying to wear the red. We were trying to get the red in there, but they wouldn't let us back then. So that's why I had it on the bottom of my shoe or whatever. But, yeah, man, I love the new. new uniforms. Yeah, they are nice. They got the socks.

You only had total, total, I think you already said it. You already said your all-purpose yards, yeah? Yeah, yeah. 9,700. 9,700, how many receiving? No, those are all-purpose. All-purpose, well. All-purpose, $12,000?

Yeah. The Russian was 97. 97. I think it's actually 11,000, 396. Derek said, like, 7,000. Derek's on his way. What Derek got? Human calculator.

Yeah, yeah. A little over $7,000 right now. 80's at 10, you're at 9 rushing, but yeah, all-purpose, $12,000. Right. So, yeah, man, for me to do that, he got to break my record. Which record?

The $2,500? Yes. You think he's got to break that record. How he got 17 games? I did it at 16. Ooh. Hang on, hang on. But what I'm saying is,

I don't think he's going to touch $25. You said you rushed for $3,000 in college? You had all-purpose? All-purpose, $3,000. It says here it was $2,900. 960s. Yeah, basically, yeah. I'm 40 yards off.

Yeah, but you see that, though. Yeah, no, it's solid. Yeah. Yeah. First numbers, too. Hey, all of the same is, like, he might not touch the 2,500. No.

Why not? You got 17 games. Yeah, but man doesn't catch like that, though. Yeah, yeah, he, you know he doesn't catch like that. Huh? If I'm you, that's the exact. Okay, so, but what I'm just saying, if we're talking about, y'all keep saying,

y'all keep saying okay we're gonna take out the the um catching aspect we're talking okay so tell me hold on wait tell me this agree with you and i don't like i know he watched the show and that's my boy but what i'm saying is right here look go back that's the that was the fourth one right here that's not a holding at all that would have been the record record yeah hey it's crazy but But listen, around and he was coming out to sideline. He was so tired. I hadn't played for weeks at this point. He's talking about, I'm like, you better get to that.

Oh, that's dog shit. Go back. Go back. Let's see if you can find anything petty. If I'm a backer, I'm like, I just want to. I like, I like Lou, man. This guy's crazy. Go to the other angle.

I want to see you. I want to see it from the back end. I see the end zone of you. Yeah, I got to see his right hand. Yeah. I ain't, hey, I'm just being honest. Watch his right arm. Look at that.

Oh. That's it. But they called that on you? No, that's, I think it's bullshit. I think it's bullshit and petty. I guess that's what they had to call. That's why he'll pop with that thing. Look that mustache on fish, dude.

This was notorious. That's the right call. Rest of the case of I, Dinger. I don't know. You're allowed to him. Yeah. Himmer Dinger is one of those guys. There's your boy right there.

Big Mikey. That's what I'm saying. Y'all keep saying that y'all want to pull out the catching aspect, but a lot of times when I look at the game on third down, we got to bring Derek out of the game. So he ain't even playing all the downs. But that's what I'm, no, but that's what I'm telling you, if we're going to talk about, if we're going to talk about the top backs,

if you, if you start in your organization, right, and you want to build your offense around the back. Yeah. You're going to want to build your offense around the back that you can have on the on field three downs. Don't want to have to put them off every third down. But as history of showed, they were a game away from the Super Bowl.

No, but I'm just saying. In 2008, in 2008, they went 13 and 3. Yeah. And they were the number, what, you guys at the first time by? Yeah, first one by. Yeah, he tore his, I mean, he's spraying his ankle. Yeah. But what I'm saying, but can you answer that question of them?

Yeah. Do you want to build your, our offense around a guy that you can play three downs or two downs? Well, the obvious answer to that is two downs, but you got to look at the body of work that Derek's put now. No, but I'm saying. You'll be... You have these answers you want a guy on three downs and two downs.

So you're saying two downs. Oh, my bad. I meant three. I meant three downs, right? Three downs. I was like, why they laughing. What's your answer? I got a question.

I mean, yeah, you want an every down back. Period. I mean, period. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Hey, I think what's fucking crazy I'm gonna need that space, well, sorry, my name hurts. Man, look at me. Bro, you ain't got A-C-O-D.

Yeah, so three downs, right? That's a good argument, but like... Like what? Bro, five years in a row of... Of what? Over a thousand and double-digit touchdowns? Double-ditches. Yeah, I did six.

I don't think you had double-digis, though. You didn't have double-digit touchdowns. No, I did, because they took me out when we got around by the goal line sometimes. Because you got to put it in Lendell. Exactly, but it's just for... How are we rocking? That's the... You got put in that smash.

I was, yeah, I was benefiting. I ain't mad. And I want to preface this with... Listen, we're all going to be friends at the end of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just make sure it's all good. But you had... Thanks, we're not going to be friends anymore.

You only had two of those seasons. Only two of them you had double-ditcher touchdowns. Yeah, but you got a thing. I'm the type of... I'm 1-95 or 200. Whoa, whoa, what hurts Derek on third down. It hurts you on the goal line. No, no.

No, not really. Hey, not really because I can do it. it, but you know when you get with the coaches, they want to put a bigger guy in the, in the game. They know that. Do you fault them for that? That's what you kind of. I can do it.

Short yardage. I can do it. Short yardage. Were you in third and one? It depends. Sometimes. Heimer, Dinger, yes. Yes.

But then you got to think, after Dinger enough, I had a different offensive coordinator every year, a different quarterback every year. Right. We didn't have a.J. Derry had A.J. Brown. For two, like three years.

Exactly. He's a stud. I can't even... See what I'm saying? He's crushing it for my fantasy team. No, I'm just saying. I want to be boys. No, I'm just saying.

All right, all right. Here's a question. You're saying because you rush for 2,000 yards. So the sole fact that you rush for 2,000 yards, you got to get put over Eddie George, right? Well, yeah, they're saying the criteria. Yes, yeah. All right, so you rush for 2,000 yards,

your second year in the league. Yeah. What I'm saying? Let's say the next year you get hurt, you never play football again. You play two years in the league. Are you still over Eddie George? No, no.

I can't say. that. That's two years. I can't say that though. Yeah. But I can't say that. I only played two years. I wouldn't be able to say I'm better than Eddie George. I play two years. Here's what I'm saying anyway. You're one and Derek's too, but Derek's on his way to become a number one. But you're just saying unless he gets $2,500. He's saying no unless he beats $2,500. Yeah, he got to be $2,500. And then on top of that, what was it? Derek, first thousand-yard season was year three or four.

Three, year three. But again, that's when we were talking about, that's why he was affected in my race. That's what I'm saying. He's in year seven. He goes three more years over a thousand. He's got seven over a thousand. We still talking ifs.

Yeah, we still talking ifs. Here's what I wanted to say, Eric. How many you got two? We did do a little bit for you too with a 70-yard touch. Who's that, Derek? That's how I'm saying you see a big, that 937 sucks because he was about to have two, two thousand yards.

in a row. But that's an if, that's an if, that's an if. You're talking right here, right? Yeah. 2,0151. Yeah, 1,0.9. 497. 5.

Yes, but. 937, that's an 8-gays play. Yeah, but, okay. On a broken foot. And 10. 10. 64 yards. He had a broken foot.

He still ran the whole game. No, Wednesday's talking stats here, though. We can't, but he's not a thousand yards. It's not a thousand yards. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. No, no. About the video, we were like, yeah, you're right.

I didn't break the record, though. I didn't break the record. That goes into it because it's unfortunate he got hurt. I didn't get it, though. But my first six years, I went for a thousand. Not thousands. It was, you know, 12, 13. That's what I was.

You know what I love the fact that you're here to back him up because if he was by himself right now, it'd be a tough battle. Yeah. And I saw him, I'm stoked. Look at that. First out to get. That is incredible. You did that in your last year?

2013. A thousand, 12. Hey, and you want to talk about, hey, then you want to talk about, bro, right? Hey, look. 811. That last year, that last year, I played on the torn meniscus since week, too. Oh, yeah. With the last year with 177?

I, I, I, yeah. Toraminescus that whole year. That three-year stand is nuts coming out of your first year. Filthy, bro. You probably couldn't even walk around Nashville. No. Yeah, it's crazy, man. Dash.

But then what I give you, I gave you 9, 14, 11, I got receiving touchdowns too, though, so you say I ain't double-digit, but I got receiving touchdowns in that, too. It's a fair. Because he had... He's on the wheel. He had double-digit.

I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. I'm not. Yeah, I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible. Yeah. Look, look over here on this 15, 25, 16, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14. Those are the total. That's, that's, yeah.

$1,000. You were that right. And you basically had double digit your first year because you had a receiving touchdown. Right. 10, 16, 12, 4. Yeah, that one that's tough.

And then he had another double digit in 13. Yeah. On the 21 minutes. Chris, I said my rankings. You're number one, big dog. Yeah, but no, no, no. But nobody George. But what does?

flowers, real quick. I know we did kind of throw Eddie at three there. We did. He's got to just been, he's been in. He's been in, he started and he's got some crazy shit too bad. Y'all, y'all for getting the Earl, man. Yeah, we, yeah, I did, I did specifically keep it at Titans. We can throw them in here.

13, 13, 13, 12, 13, 15, 9. That's not. That's nuts. See, no, I don't know what to do. We got to get good. It's about West at 2.25. Only one double digit, though. Earl.

O two, you guys one time? That one at 225. 13. You all got to leave, huh? Yeah. Did you get that, did you drive here? Did you get an Uber? I got to get over.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead and do that. 11. I think you're straight, though. I mean, you're still an hour, 20. Yeah, you're good. I would actually leave. How far's there for you? Huh?

Oh, yeah, don't you? He went crazy, too. He did go crazy. But look at the touchdowns. 8, 6, 5, 9, 14, 5, 12, 5, 4. Yeah, y'all talk about me, y'all was saying. Eddie's are three. No, but he was saying something about the touchdown.

Eddie is a big guy, and he only got two double-died. Right. That's crazy. Chris, he fell the number three on my list. He fell the number three. I had double digits as a backup. But a lot of times... You're still number one.

You're number one. Yes, but a lot of times... I had double digits as a backup. There you go. Lindel White is into the conversation. Yeah, I did have double digits that's backup. Yeah. I wanted to say the whole time.

Matter of fact, I broke... Matter of fact, I broke Eddie's touchdown record for the year. or one of the mirrors. I have more touchdowns. I'm pretty... Chris, are you four? I'm just being real. I'm fucking with you.

You know what I? You know what I? You know what I'm saying? Can't be out of at? 15. And he's at 3.6. With limiting. But if we're talking about receiving, too,

he had a double digit with the receiving. I want to see with Derek. It's interesting to with Derek. Look up there. I want to see. See, he's at 4-8. That's a great average, yeah. That's ridiculous.

I mean, that five yards of carry. And what was yours? Five yards of carry. Yeah, he's crazy. That's crazy. Eddie's last year kind of kills him a little bit. But like, I truly want to get this off my chest.

I've been one of the best crazy work. What that? It is nuts. We started a podcast, and one day we would have Lindel White and Chris Johnson on it. We're arguing about them,

Eddie George, Derek Henry, like, who's the best? Yeah. That's awesome. saying like this is nuts bro this is hard wild wild there's some stats boy what about playoffs hey hey ass white whoa oh oh dude i'm telling me i like this dude hey this man hey we would have got along so good man we would have he said what about playoffs right you're all i'm telling you pull them playoffs pull them playoffs who's uh who's uh this right who's uh this

straighter, Chris? I mean, look at career playoffs, six and a half. We can't get you a picture. What's that about? Oh, no, they got me at three probably men. Yeah. One game played, though. One playoff game. I mean, hey. I'm a playoff game in Arizona. Harry Collins. All right, last question.

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John Ross, because he broke his 40 times. Yeah, John Ross. John Ross looked at something the wrong way he'd get injured. Right. Yeah, me, of course. That's tough. Who's faster than you? Who's faster?

We're talking about you and your prime. Nobody. on the football field. Nobody. Nobody. You saying cheetahs and assizes you? Nobody. Not when my prime, no.

You're kind of pissing me off that you're not in your prime anymore because I'm trying to run it. Yeah, you're trying to see that, right? I'm at least want to see it going by me. No question. How long am I keeping up? Mount wide open. Yeah, in prime, yeah, nobody in my prime.

What do you think you can run right now? Right now, I probably can run a four-three. You think you can run a four-three right now? Come on, Chris. Don't do that. What did you run at the call at 4-28? 4-28? See what I'm saying?

Bray, you always trying to take something about me? No, no, don't do that. Don't do that. That's why I like him. First of eight, we're going to throw one in here, man. Yeah. You think he's running a four-three right now? DJ could probably run a four-three.

How many pro-olds you make? He runs straight. He knows how to get down and do it. Right now still? Like, training, work out? Yeah. Same. Like, if that's what he needed to do, I'm sure he can fight now.

I don't know. Right now? A 4-4 is still fast. Like, we had 40 yards out there. We went out right now. a little dynamic warm-up. Yeah, I'm gonna run a 4-3. It's only 40 yards.

Buddy, I feel like I've already dug a little hole for myself. I don't think it's gonna be a 4-3. I would say he could probably run a mid-4-5. He could be a 4-39, but he's still 4-3. I'm saying me and him might be close right now. Right now. Listen, okay. Hey, Will, relax.

Out of the 3. Buddy, I'm literally three weeks out of surgery and we're close right now. No, we're not relaxed. Hey, I guarantee you. Relax, Bob. Did you not, if you're not checking him on the kid? What'd you run? A four or five?

At a pro day, bro. That's, that's... Four or five in your prime. You probably didn't run it. I didn't run. I didn't run. You were a prime at 310 pounds. Hey, listen, out of the three backs, the rankings,

I guarantee, I run the fastest 40 out of the three backs right now. You think you're beating Derek? Yeah. I don't know. It takes a second. I still stay. Derek was a 4-5 guy and he's gotten faster, bro. So you think.

Derek can beat me right now? You think Derek can beat me right now? Jack thinks he's probably beating CJ right now. Yeah, and here's why. Listen, I swear to God. I'm not trying to be sick. Derek is in, he's in football shape. He's been running.

He's been training. Hey, what Derek run at the combine? Or 28. What Derek run at the combine? There's 28? I think so. 27, 28. Yeah, 28.

Yeah, 28. Silly ass class. Yeah, but that's another thing what y'all was saying. Y'all keep saying in the next couple of years. you know when you get 28 at running back. It's like this way. You all know that.

You know when you get 28 at running back. But they said you can't play into your 40s, Tom Brady. No, but we're talking about running back here. Do y'all think Derek got four or five more years? I don't know. I think with Derek, you're getting the ball 30 times a game. I don't know. Because we got to think, hey.

No, there's no chance. But you, like, he hasn't slowed down on all. No, no. He haven't. I'm riding with my boy and tell you. No, I'm riding with Derek's too. But what I'm saying is. It's been rocking Derek's skin flute all, all episodes.

There's no question. I'm fucking. Hey. But my thing is, okay. So it's kind of going to go back to how it started with Derek at the beginning. That you're saying that's going to hurt him a little bit towards the end. Like, towards the end, like, we know for Derek to be Derek, he got to get 25, 30 carriers. Yeah, he at least 20.

And back in. Can he, can he? Can he say? But what I'm saying is can he sustain that the next two, three, four years? I think for sure to three years. My man takes care of his body like crazy, bro. Here's what Derek is. No, everybody takes care of their body, but I'm just saying.

They'll have to kind of keep an identity kind of like that with Tennessee, and they'll have to obviously extend it. Right, that's what it is. Right, because, listen, a lot of, but no, but the thing about it is, it's about winning. Yeah, if they win. So if we're not winning like that, how long is we just going to keep giving and Derek the ball like that?

If we're not winning like that. One four in a row, yeah, they haven't. Just saying, if it slows down. No, but we're talking about winning Super Bowls. Yeah. If that formula is not working, I'm not saying that Derek can't do it, but I'm saying if that formula is not working, then at some point it's going to be like.

Switch it up? Yes. What do you think? If it's not working, I don't know we've been doing it. What are they going to do? No, but I'm just saying at some point. So what do you think? You know what they told me when I got cut?

What is that? They said. They said, yeah, we know what I'm saying? We're not saying that you're not a back or you're not the best back, but we're not winning. We're not winning. But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. No. What is it?

How much you're getting paid the last year? My last year, eight. He held out. Amen. I was kind of one to ask about that. He held out one year, and then the next year, that's when they ended up releasing you, right? No, no, no, no. He was the holdout release?

Nah, held out after. Oh, you held out back to back years. No, I ain't not bad to back years. You lie. I held out after. I mean, he didn't show up to OTAs and stuff until he made sure that the different money was made. So, whatever you are.

So after my second year, so after I went, so after I went for 2,000 yards, I was supposed to make, I think it was like 700 or 800 or whatever. You're on your rookie deal. Rookie deal. So they ended up moving the money that I was supposed to make in my last year of that contract. They gave it to me.

So they gave me five million. That's insane that you got that in your rookie deals. That's wild. I didn't know you do that. Right, right. Second year, and then in my third year, that's when they paid me. And then you held out in what year? The third year.

The third year. Before the third year, I held out. That's when they paid me. No, after the third year, that's when they paid me. I held out or whatever. But that's what I'm saying. So, like, he said it absolutely doesn't make no sense at all. But they say we weren't winning.

So even though I'm a great back, they say we're not winning. So what are the tights you to do right now to be Super Bowl? We need a receiver. We need receivers. Do you think they should have traded AJ? Hell no. That was by it. I mean, that was.

We need a receiver and we need an athletic tight-in. You know, he can become, he probably gets a player soon. Yeah. Right now we know. No, we are in a way AJ can do. Why are we, yeah. Right, but that was, there. You needed the two sides to come to an agreement.

Like, I think. Why not, though? I think AJ made it difficult. Why could we give him that? Why would, why we, why we, why we, why we, why we, You're paying a quarterback, 25. I mean, you're paying a lot of dudes. In this, what I don't understand.

No, no. You got a lot of moves being made. No, we have AJ. Who do you think Jeff Simmons or AJ if you need it? I don't know. I mean, bro, how do we, but how do we worry about that when we get there? How do we? Yeah, we're paying you.

And then when he comes up, we'll worry about that. How did you have from my understanding of this? It was like 30 a year, 29, 30 years. No, 25. He got 25 in the evening. He got 25 in here, but he wanted. Oh, he wanted. allegedly from what I've heard.

He's getting 25 from the Eagles now. Yeah, but I heard him tweet, no. From what I've heard he was asked. Yeah. But no, I heard, but he tweeted and said that that's what he was asking for 25. Yeah, but he probably wasn't. But how do you give Tannenhill 100 before you pay Derek? I think they're different parts.

I think Tannen was on the last year of his deal. I think Derek got two more years. Yeah. I'm not sure. I would have to, I would have to, I would have to war room this thing. You're saying why would they pay Tannen Hill 100 million before? Derek. Yeah

When Derek When Derek wasn't up for his new deal, was he? No, but he had that rest of 2,000 yards He didn't get paid to after that man They're going to keep you as long as they can On that rookie deal Yeah, that's from a team standpoint You gotta do that.

And they needed a quarterback, they needed to bring a quarterback in And then that's when the Marioada thing happened So why are you not trade? In that year when they replaced Marioo with Ten Hill They went to the EFC championship They did it with Taney Hill No

So you give them a hundred With a pick Where's O'Dill? Like, yes, what I'm saying? We know he's hurt, but that's what I'm saying? Like, okay, bring Jarvis Landry and it's. Bring somebody in and we know is a proven number one. Robert Wood's before.

Man, listen, they disrespect the position, man. That's my guy when he starts feeling good. I think when he's, I don't know, I know them knees are tricky. So, like, I think when Bobby started feeling better, he'll be, but. I mean, before he got hurt, he rushed. He received a thousand yards four years in a row. Yeah, he's card. I think he was on his way to five or either was on his way to four.

So you have Bobby Trees with AJ. But, bro. Last year you had Derek Henry, AJ Brown, and Julio Jones. Yeah. Not everybody was really on the field at the same time. Never. But no, that's why I say that. He's doing it now.

This is fucking awesome, boys. Yeah, fucking tough. It's got to end right now. We'll have to do it again. We'll have to collab again. We'll have to collab again. We'll have to be back soon for show you. Yeah.

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