Bussin' With The Boys - Chris Long

Episode Date: May 19, 2022

Recorded: April 27, 2022 | The hydrated king, Chris Long, steps on the bus for our Thursday episode this week. Just a pod full of football guys talking ball and business. (Intro) 0:00 Interview starts (7:44) Taylor's P*nis (9:30) Realizing you're old in the NFL (17:25) Being treated differently once you're injured in the NFL (31:30) Different views on podcasting (46:00) Aaron Donald is greatest defensive lineman of all time (55:44) Flying private & working with Bluewire (1:06:05) Will's experiment with Drug testing in the league (1:16:37) Howie Long, Kyle Long, and the heaviest hands in football (1:21:15) 2022 Draft class predictions (1:36:40) Transitioning to being a leader of a business (1:44:00) ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy: Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Georgia Boot: Head over to Georgiaboot.com and use code BUSSIN for 20% off Duke Cannon: Check out Duke Cannon at any Target or on DukeCannon.com and use code “Bussin” for 15% off your first order.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Big, big episode for you guys this week. A little cross-pollination for coming for you guys. Chris Long flew in. He was going to the draft. Took a PJ in. Took a PJ in. A massive flex. The only thing that's a bigger flex is an outstanding jawline

that you know the boys just a little disappointed. He can literally give me 10% of that jawline and be totally fine. He gave me 30% of that jawline. The man takes a PJ. Where does he live, Virginia? Yeah. That was from the hip. Man takes a PJ from Virginia.

Instead of going straight to Las Vegas for the NFL draft, he makes a stop in Nashville, Tennessee. Comes to our humble shed, gets on our, humble bus. For one thing, and that's to see the boys. To see the boys and to have an absolute outstanding conversation. And we had a bit of a podcast. We had a bit of a podcast and we had a first. That's what I'm saying.

We'll come. We're losing our virginity together to all the listeners out there. We're losing our virginity together. This is it. Chris Long was boy enough to roll up a little Jay. Oh, my. And we shared a little bit of camaraderie. Don't point it to me because I didn't.

Yeah, yeah. We as in Chris Long and I, you know what I'm saying? We shared a little bit of camaraderie before we hit the bus. Chris, he continued to do it throughout the entire episode. The boy, knowing myself where I can go when I get in a nice little car wreck. I had to like pump the brakes. I was, you know, dude, when that's happening.

People were nervous for you. People being me. And I was a little nervous too. I'm like, I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm kind of just going straight from the, like you said, straight from the hip with Chris Long. And it was interesting. But I think it went smooth, bro. Because you can be in your own head.

Oh, there's no question about it. You can sit there and you're like, yeah, I'm really doing this on the podcast. Like I'm doing this on the bus. Right. And people are watching and people are going to view this and it's going to be me being high for the rest of my life in front of people anytime they want to see it on YouTube. or an audio. Right. And Chris,

when I went to my like, Chris asked you, you're like, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah, exactly. Because he's like a bigger brother to you.

Right. Plus, really. And it was my first time meeting him. When he first started that's the vibe he has. Yes. And he was a boy,

like he treated you guys like you as were longtime friends. Oh, yeah. He's been internet friends for a while. And when it came into a physical connection, the fusion was unbelievable. All I could do is step back and watch. Dude,

we hit it off, bro. He was unbelievable. I think it went solid. Like, I was in my head a couple times a little bit. Yeah. What were you in your head about? What do you think in your head about?

Because I, you know, knowing, you know, boy, I'm a professional athlete. I've never smoked weed in my life. But the things I've read about it, I know you can get in your head sometimes. And then you see people looking at you. Yeah. So that being my first time. Yeah. It was one of those things where he's talking to you.

Yeah. And I'm staring at him because, you know, I'm known. The boy's known to like, listen. And so I'm sitting there listening to me. But not only listen, but digest. Right. Yeah. And he's sitting there talking, telling the stories.

And when he'd look at me and stare at him. me longer than I was anticipating. I'm thinking to myself, does he know that I'm high right now? But you guys spoke together? Right, right. But I'm thinking to myself, does he know that I'm high

and I'm just staring at him high? Because I'm actually listening to him, but he might not know that I'm listening to him. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then I would start laughing. Like, in the pod, JP, I think you can,

I don't know if you've went through the pod yet. But, like, I feel like I start laughing in the middle of him. Yeah, there's a couple times you do. Go ahead, J.P. No, yeah. It's just, he did. But then he kept telling the story.

Hey, then he kept telling the story and you're kind of like, oh, I got to tighten up. Nobody thinks this is funny. No, you're straight. That's a thing. That's what I'm saying. All the books, all the literature I've read about marijuana is saying the same thing you're saying right now. There are points in times.

There's times when it's just, like, let's say it was you and your really close friend and you're sitting at somebody's house watching a movie. There's no reason to feel insecure about anything because you guys are just living. But you put yourself in a vulnerable situation. That's what I'm saying. The whole world. Right. The whole world with 80 million viewers.

I was going to say, 80 million viewers. Looking at you watching Will. How's he going to act? They're watching you pick up that left-handed cigarette and put it in your mouth. Take a puff. There was a lot of parents from the 60s that were shunning you right then and there. You put that thing down. Your life was changed forever.

You're now the bad boy of this bus. The edgy. Oh, because he's got a little edged. Yeah. And you think, oh, he ain't that bad. He's wearing new balancers. He's wearing them white Nike boys. But really, you bad boy.

I don't know. I might get a tattoo. Oh, shit. Imagine if you got a tattoo? I know. You start driving a Harley. No regrets. No regrets, dude.

You'd be absolutely killing it out there. I think you did phenomenal. And I think, based on what I've read, if I were to be in that situation, I don't think I would have as good as you. You know? Maybe one day we'll find out. One day when we're way down the road. And we're just trying to get a little.

I can't, but maybe. We're trying to get a little excitement in our lives. You know what I mean? Yeah. When things are dying down for us, we need to spy something up. Correct. We'll leave the gimp suit for another day and we'll just jump on. And one other thing that made it nervous too, nerve wrecking was like,

there was no like dry run about it. Like, he came on, he asked. He was running late. Like I'm thinking of myself He did show late Taylor needed to be out at a certain time Because your boy's driving out I needed to be home for a certain time

For my wife to go do her thing So I can watch the baby And thinking of all of this stuff It kind of just happens When you did this Did you think Everyone's like Oh he talked about the baby

Did you think You were like trying to calm the crowd? I know I had to watch the baby Everyone calmed down I know I know Honestly it was unbelievable

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Let's get one off. The Hydrant King. Chris Long. And that's how we thank you, boys. Dude, what the fuck are we drinking Aquafino for? Is this a sponsor? No, aquafia.

First off, bleep out that. No, free shout-outs. No, that's just, I think the cheapest water we buy. You know what? You're going to bring the hydrating king on. We got them Costco. Some of that fucking air water. What's your go-to?

Liquid death. That's why we're obviously sponsored you. They're not that great. No, they don't. And I feel like I'm famous now because I'm on this podcast. Oh, there we go. I feel like I'm famous now because I'm on this podcast. Sorry, it kicked a small bus.

I would love a sponsorship with Liquid Death. I'm not too proud to ask for it. Oh, we will ask for anything. You're in the water boy. Yeah, a fucking hydrated king. Yeah, dude. Like, people like, Tom Segura, he thinks he's like a hydrated king. Your guy, you hung out with Bert recently.

Yeah. And that was awesome, right? You were telling me. Oh, it was incredible. Burr was the man, dude. He was really fucking good. Tom thinks he's a hydrated king. He's not the hydrated king.

We're the hydrated kings. We're actually athletes. What qualifies you to be a hydrated king? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go through that. Well, I have a water charity. Sure. Yeah, I know that. End of discussion.

Right. Good one, too. You guys climb Mount Kilimanjaro. You're going to do it. One day, yeah. I have a feeling. One day I'll do it. Yeah, that'd be great.

Is that a tough climb? I have no clue. Is that like camelback and Scottsdale? Like, what's the deal? It's like a many. It's a little grind too. It's a little bit grind. It's a little camelback.

It's like many camelbacks. Like it's just stacked on top of each other. You stay nights? Yeah, you stay nights. Oh, it's a camp thing. It's like a summer camp hike. Yeah, it's like summer camp. When I first met my wife, we went to California, and there was like this hill that everyone

went and hiked. And she's like, do you want to hit a hike? I'm like, pro athlete. Never been on a hike before. Yeah. I said pro athlete, I'm going to fucking kill this. Her and my buddy were no joke half a mile ahead of me at one point. I'm fucking dying.

And the inclines like that. It's not very big at all. I was fucking getting murdered. Well, you're carrying a backpack. No, I was carrying my, I was carrying my pride. And that was pretty heavy at that point. You're 300 pounds. Like to those people, you're carrying multiple backpacks.

Yeah, that's true. You're at a disadvantage. You know what I mean? So honestly, this hike is really cool. And anybody listening is conquering Killy. And you can check out Water Boys and doing the charity plug right off the bat. But it is interesting. And I'd love to have you guys one year.

Seriously. Like Big Cat committed a couple of years. I am. But he didn't do it. Well, the problem is I didn't give him a lot of shit to do either. To be honest, we didn't give Taylor a lot of shit to do. He was not very good with responsibility. No, we were just happy to have...

A good. A beautiful face on our website, dude. Four play, huh? Oh, dude, I'm outstanding. I don't know if I'm outstanding, but my effort's fucking crazy. Yeah. That's like if you... Yeah, go ahead.

When I was... I don't know. Well, no, go ahead. What's the analogy? I don't know. You got bust with the bullies. I don't know. Well, I've heard you make comments about your piece before.

Yeah, it's not the best. I mean, here's a deal. My, like, my penis... All jokes aside. My penis... Six minutes and 38 seconds that we're talking about. Taylor's dick. I like to think we're right on par with our pockets.

This is the trajectory usually goes up. My penis is not big by any means. I don't look at it. I go, yeah, you know, I don't fucking, yeah. But I will say that it's super approachable. Yeah. It's very handsome. Yeah, good.

It doesn't have like a misshaping thing at the tip. It stays nice and pink and then gets a little darker towards the end. And it just kind of- Now I'm saying. Now I'm saying it. I didn't want to see it. Handsom has a little bit of like masculinity and size to it. He stands up straight.

You know what I'm saying? If you're going to say, handsome the way you're describing, I'm thinking, he's adorable, he's cute, he's approachable. I was voted most huggable in high school. Yeah, most huggible. In life, no. I agree with that. They're not handsome.

I agree with that. Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio, all these guys are understitch. People say, like, John Hamm is handsome. Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy. And Vince Vaughn are handsome. No, they're not really that handsome. They have great personalities, which makes them more handsome.

Their personalities make them pretty, like better. Nobody says Tom Cruise is so handsome. I think people do used to before they find out about Scientology. Or, or the platform. shoes, dude. That's what I'm saying. The movies, everybody looks like, you know, handsome and stuff. Here's what I'm saying. I've never pulled my pants down with a woman involved. And sure go, ooh, they've always gone, wow, that's really nice to see.

It's really like, it's like a dinner date. It's something you marry. My penis is not like that. What are you hands? What do you take a moment with every? Hold on. Because if the football coach knows you're going 2 and 14, it don't tell you that in camp. Right.

I'm arguing. Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm saying like, I'm not saying your father's embarrassing. But I don't think them not. laughing. You know what I mean? Like, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. What I'm wondering is do you take a moment with every chick just to like pull down your pants and yeah, yeah. I did the lights. I did the lights.

Every chick's out. Oh, wow. That looks, that looks awesome. It's like, well, what are we at in this moment? No, you don't do that. We get a good kissing. Touch the neck a little bit. Rub the boobies. Do do, do, do, do change the tues. How do you rub the tits? And I say, and I fucking say, are you ready? How do you do, dude. Just like changing radio, baby. do do come on baby I rip it four feet I dim the lights

real fucking nice I light a candle and I always have lavender and I go are you ready and they go for what I go for this to go to sleep like an aphrodisiac or something

no it's calming no it is calming I'm gonna rub this lavender I don't know I don't know I don't want any candle it's the pepper man it's not Christmas time I'm gonna rub this

I'm gonna rub the lavender on the bottom of your feet we're gonna fall asleep by the way my wife now it's like hey you want to do this she's like yeah get after each other

yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. I fucking pull my pants and I say, what do you think? So, for play, that's, yeah, if you're, if you, if you, if you're, if you, if you're, if you, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, yeah, if you're, if you're, you don't, if you're, you know, fuck around with her. Everything's good. You want me to do what? You want me to go down there? You don't get a jaw like that and not be decent at foreplay. That's a lot of fucking work.

All I'm saying. All I'm saying is when you lead with the foreplay, you're like a, you're like a receiver that can't run and you're like, I'm, you're like, I'm. really good in traffic or like I'm a good route runner first. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can create a little bit of separation. That's all. Larry Fitzgerald, but yeah.

Well, Hall of Fame. You might be Larry Fitzgerald. Oh, I am. You might be Hall of Fame. Because, dude, here's what I'm telling you, like, when I have sex. That's not something I thought I was going to hear. Let me just say, when I have sex, nothing else in the world matters.

Wait, back, this is back in the day. This is life right now. Oh, right now. So you're taking all that time. I'm feeling. Okay. You're present. I'm sitting there like, hey, when can I?

When can I fucking dive down? Get me a snorkel. Get me a turkey sandwich. I'm fucking going in there for a while. You won't see me, but you'll know I'm there. That type of mentality. Dog, he sounds like a high motor guy. Oh, 100%, dude.

I'm the world content. I'm a real content. I'm a core four guy. A lot of effort. I'm a team player too. I'm down there. I'm talking the boys up. Hey, how we're doing?

I didn't like what PMT or PFT did to do you. That was some bullshit. Yeah, good. Because it's one thing is like. He caught him on a necktail. He got you all that's all I did. Totally. He caught him on an exhale.

And you talk about Tom Cruise and all these people on the beach. When you see like a beautiful actress or a handsome actor and you see their beach picture, how does that look? Not great. Right. Like if you Google in the blank on the beach, you really want to know. Google Dwayne Johnson on the beach. Well, I can tell you this about Dwayne Johnson is a guy that's enormous. He's big on the beach too.

Yeah, he looks at the beach as well. It's not fair because he did a lifeguarding. movie. Yeah, dude, Baywatch. Every movie he does. Yeah, something to do with him. Just kidding. That movie Loki slap, though. I'm going to be honest. Yeah, I thought it was good. One of top-five beach movie of all time. No. Off the top of my head, right away, no.

Absolutely not. Point Brank is up there. There's a movie about a penguin surfing that I think is probably better than that. Surf's up. That's a fucking great movie, dude. D-Day scene and saving Private Ryan, maybe. So maybe that counts. The movie The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio, which is, I think, underrated. Where we put in Jaws? Jaws is up there.

That was probably number one. Jaws has got to be a thing. Oh, dude, but Jaws will fuck. Who's that? Leo? Yeah, you caught Leo on X-L right there. Like, no question. No question.

My wife would leave me for Leonardo de Caprio. No questions out. But I might see them walking out on the beach and be like, I don't even feel threatened by that interact. Yeah. Right. No problem. Look at his name was in Leo.

Shoulders. Zero peck, zero, anything else, bro, except that belly. Yeah, dude. Like so. In that moment, Leo, we love that. Everyone loves Leo. You caught Will Compton on the beach. that's all it was.

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Now, do you want to explain the knee sleeve to me? Is that like an ironic? No, so what had happened was... What happened was the boy caught a little bit of inflammation in the knee, so I'm trying to keep it down. You know what I'm saying? But not at your age. What are you talking about?

He's 32. He's 33 September. You know what? You know what's funny? You know what's funny as fuck? The day you realize you're old in the NFL is the day you have to start controlling the swelling in your knee and you didn't do anything to it. Damn.

You just walk in the building and you're like, damn, dude, I have a knee problem. Like, just for being old. There's no loose body in there. I didn't tell my ACL. Another thing that's fucked out about being old in the NFL is you're not old in life. So it's just weird mental fuck you're getting the whole time too. And everybody else is like, dude, you're not fucking old. It's all my mind fuck of retirement.

I truly believe a lot of why guys struggle is like you're like the only person experiencing what you're experiencing. Yeah. which is you don't have to work, if you're lucky. You're old as fuck compared to all your peers. They also have a 10-year head start, whatever industry they join. So I think guys really struggle with the fact, like,

who the fuck am I, dude? Like, I think that's the part about being old in the NFL that really sucks, to your point. I think it's a great point. Yeah, that's... He's too high to talk retirement. Willie? Yeah, I was just trying.

I mean, he's high enough to be retired right now. That was a great point. I just looked down like, I don't know what you want me to follow with. Dude. I wonder. By the way, I'd pass a test. No problem. Right now?

Yes. Come on. A drug test? Yeah. Well, they, they, um. They changed the gamma meters or whatever they are. Yeah. It went up to like for guys that like, you know, like, it's just, yeah, guys have it

good now. And I'm not hating, you know. Yeah, but that's a very, that's a very much like back in my day starter. I know. And I said, I'm not hating. You got to finish with it. And I'm not hating. A lot of the old guys don't do when they're like,

people get paid too much these days. Yeah, because you're proactive about using it in the NFL, right? Not proactive. Not proactive, but like, you spoke on it, right? Well, I let it slip talking to damn. Like when people talk about,

when people talk about Chris Longby, oh, that's a dude who talks about smoking. I know, that sucks, dude. I hate it. Bo Allen was at my golf tournament this weekend and his favorite joke is, you hear Chris smokes weed? You know, like, it's become like a thing,

you know what I mean? And it's kind of fucking lame. I hate that. Pink Whitney. I see Pink Whitney. Shout out to our boy. Yeah, shout out to Ryan Whitney. I'm busy.

Those dudes do killer. They came on the podcast. We need to get Paul on here for real. On the bus. He's been on, I was in Arizona. Will came out. We did like a couple of Arizona pods. Yeah.

But like there's just a different vibe when you're on the bus. Yeah. Instead of like a Zoom thing. Zoom sucks. And anywhere other than being on the bus sucks because this is what makes us us. You know what I'm saying? It's the full fucking. What do you guys feel like when you do a Zoom interview?

Are you just like this? We talk about all the time. Feel free to talk. whenever you want, Will, I just know that. No, it can be kind of there's literally, when he says the last word, you're saying the first words. Okay, go ahead. I also feel like our line of sites.

No, you already started. I think when the most frustrating thing about a Zoom is like when Will and I sit here, let's say we don't have a guess, it's like as outstanding as you are, where like you're going to put some word count in. And I got to ask a question. And then you're answering that question. While you're answering that question, me and Will, if we're on the bus, it's easy for us to figure out, Kate,

Will's going to ask the next question. I'm going to ask the next question. But if you're on Zoom, you're kind of like sitting there hoping and then sometimes there's that long pause after you answer and then we both don't at the same time was like oh fuck the other person is not going to ask a question

and then there's the other time where you right away both of those try to ask a question it's just it's fucking awkward it's not muddied you can't like dab the person up give them a hug before you talk you know like you greet people here yeah like that's a real thing you know and yeah like being on Zoom sucks and like starting a podcast in the middle of fucking pandemic right

I feel like that's like getting drafted by the lions You know what I mean? Like, shout out to Aid and Hutchinson or the kid from Oregon. Yeah, he's going to Detroit. Yeah. Welcome to Detroit. Hey, I'm actually still good talk about that, but keep going. Yeah, no, but I just think it's like a tough start.

And so kudos to you guys and figuring out a way that you could do this. I think it's really sweet because, like, Nashville is like a cool place that cool people come through. You may not get like all Hollywood guests if you had like a Hollywood. No, but I mean, like, you might not get your like actors that come through Nashville all the time. But you can still get really dope people. You can get country stars, athletes, all that. that stuff. And it's a cool place to like visit. People love coming here.

They love coming. When I heard like, yeah, like if you were in Ames, Iowa, like I'm not coming to the bus. Right. No, offense to Ames, Iowa. I don't know why I just took a shot of Ames. Yeah. No, it's all right. James, just chilling just stray ball.

I heard back. They see me the headline of their news tomorrow. Chris Long. Yeah. She's long. Yeah. Shot at Ames Iowa. Devil's lettuce enjoy.

Yeah. Yep. Left-wing activists. They're going to be doing voodoo to me and their mega I get it. I get it. Left-wing activist. I don't get it. Oh, that's funny as fuck. But yeah. Oh, it's a red state here?

Yeah, Iowa. I'm not as political as you guys. I'll tell you, Willie is. Willie always puts it on me. We're in the airport with my mask off, but he's every time he's got to put his on. He's fitching. It's so mad. But mask is like, he's like fucking libtards. But mask is not politics to me. Like, it's just like some people are afraid.

I'm going to be as respectful as I can and keep it moving. Like, I don't wear a mask like anymore. but I go in some stores and they're like mask up and then I'm just like I'm gonna put it on. So like, let me take it on my bar or let me run up on my truck. I just make making people uncomfortable.

Yeah. I mean, except my, or it's just not that serious. Like if these people are taking it that serious around and they want me to have a mask on like, all right. Yeah, dude. How prideful do you have to be?

Right. It would be like, no, fuck your fears. You like under your breath. You know you're fucking Subaru. You know that shit doesn't work. Yeah. The people running people down in grocery stores, I'm like, dude, this is, wow.

Right. Incredible. You have a gun on your hip because you're like, you know, the small chance that you have to get in a shootout. But the person can't. But if that's a small chance, they have an underlying cause. I was like, I'm like, Jesus Christ. So, yeah, you took us to politics, bro. I don't think I did. I don't know.

I didn't. He did. You did. Yeah, yeah, because you brought up Iowa, Red State, Iowa. That's true. I did do that. That's all right. That's okay.

You're also tired from being a dad. Hey, dude. I want, can you, I'm not. Can you step into my. My refrigerator? Everybody has a kid, dude. That shit was so fucking funny, dude. These kid posts are just out of control, man.

It doesn't matter, bro. Monotize the baby. Do I get equity in this fucking busing with the boys? Oh, that blue lights. They're up at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll be able to point to it. This is how we built this whole thing up.

Hey, but how does it feel, dude, really? Being a dad? Yeah. Good and bad. Yeah. Like, it's up and down, right? Rhymes. Hey, that's real as fuck.

Like, no, though, I mean, that is. Like, there's some dog moments, right? Like, to where she's not going to sleep. Or you get the domino effect of you and your wife both being very tired. And you know, in your mind, like you said, everybody's experiencing their own thing. Like, I'm going through my day. So I think about my stress. She's going through her day.

And I'm like, damn, she has to stay at home all day. Lose her completely change her identity and trying to be a mother and staying at home all the time while I go out a couple of times and do, like, cool shit. Yeah, the worst is like, hey, can I go to the bar? Right, right. Or somebody's like. Yeah, I thought there's none of that. It depends on how you ask, I feel like. Right.

But it's just, it's like one of those things where it's awesome when you, you're able to have all that perspective. And then it's tough, like when you have those domino days where you're both extremely tired and you're like, are you going to go get the kid? Like, oh, I've been doing X, Y, and Z type of thing. That's a great point. But so up and down. I'm not doing that.

That's a great point thing. I was going to fuck with you. Honestly, like early on, I feel like you're useless as a dad. Dude, like, and so I'm impressed that you're doing things. Like, I just felt like I stood around a lot and tried not to fuck up the process, like the first three months. So you wait till the fun part. Everybody thought, yeah, everybody talks about. I was talking about somebody who's their kid just turned like six months or something.

Like, oh, it's like, it gets better. So tell me this. What do you guys think about this? What do you think about, like, people that fucking, like, we make content at some point, we're going to look back at it and be like, we were fucking lame. And our kids will for sure. Yeah. See, I don't think that way. You don't think that way?

Oh. I think, truly in my mind, I'm like, yo. A stroll back on all these photos and, like, know who our old man was. Like, what he was into always. Exactly who he was. He didn't take shit too seriously. Didn't take shit too seriously. Had a great time.

Was big in the moments. Like, I think it's going to be dope. I think if I was your kid, I'd think you were cool. I appreciate that, man. Like, to me, like, you do with your dad. Yeah, I do. No question. So it's one of those things.

And you probably wish there were more archives of just even fun of yourself or lame stuff to where you can bet. Oh, my dad rips. Yeah. No, you're right, though. Honestly, I wish they had, like, my dad had a podcast. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know who my dad was.

Like, but then you really learn more about your parents when you talk to their buddies. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. But you start getting their buddies a little stoned because it's much stronger now. Yeah. But you get a buddy or your dad's stone and let him just go and tell you the stories about your dad. That's how you get to know your dad. If he had played now, I feel like I'd get to know my dad a lot more, like when he was

But they didn't have interviews. They just didn't, like, follow people around with cameras. There weren't cell phones. Like, yeah. So, I mean, our kids are going to know us really fucking well. No doubt. But I feel like when your dad played and all that, like, what a time to get away with shit. Yeah, no question.

You know what a fucking time to be out there. Dude, he was on the Raiders, bro. The Oakland Raiders, like, thank God there were no fucking. You know, when you watched any given Sunday and Lawrence Taylor's on the roof with the chainsaw. Yeah. I remember being like, that's not, we don't do that. Like, it's unrealistic, but maybe they did in the 80s. Maybe.

How do we know? Lyle Al-Zato? Like, I mean, the shit's fucking insane. Yeah. I'm sure he was a wild man. Part of the reason why we're number 77. Yeah. I think the way my dad put it was like, there was a point in time where I think Lyle was

very confident that he could beat up anybody on the planet. And, like, I wasn't so sure either. Didn't he do an exhibition against Muhammad or something like that? Yeah, you got to just, even if it's not true, like he had that attitude and he was big and he was strong and he had assistance. Yeah. You know? but he's a fucking, he was, like, just, he's the perfect example of like, if a dude like that played now,

yeah, it'd be like Johnny Mansell on steroids. Not to take any shot at Johnny Manzell. I'm just saying, like, Johnny partied a lot and it was exposed because of the time he lived in. And I think the reason I respect Johnny, though, is because he owns it. He does. He was on, he came on here and he really owned it. He talked about he wouldn't change a thing, which I don't know how much I would agree with that. Yeah.

Like, would you really not change anything? But he owned it. He was apologetic. He felt bad for the, like, the Browns franchise. Like, yeah, I kind of, I fucked them over. Yeah. And he, like, the way he has handled this business. Yeah.

Right. There's a slew. The Browns had a tough. All over it. Exactly. Duk tape jersey. Yeah. That's why I think people are hard on Baker.

But he didn't, I think their, their situations are different. Baker and Johnny. But I just think, like, like, he's going to end up being one of the most hated Browns quarterbacks. But of all the duct tape names on the back. of that jersey. He's probably the, like, one of the best in 20 years. He probably is the best in 20 years.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying, listen. Like, Joe Thomas played for 10 years and had 12 different quarterbacks. And I'm not putting him on a pedestal. I'm not saying he's like an elite quarterback or anything, but nobody hated Baker until he didn't play well. I don't think Baker the person, I've never heard of Baker the person being a bad guy until he started playing. That's the thing about the NFL.

You can be whoever you want until you play poorly. When you play poorly, people stop laughing at your jokes. You stop laughing at those progressive commercials. Like, he's on all of them. Yeah. They're pretty decent. Even the dudes in the locker room. You know, like, that's tough.

And you've been through it. You've been hurt. Like, you know, you went through your shit. It's fucking tough. It's tough, especially when you walk in that locker room and you look around, you're like, I wonder if these guys even respect me anymore. That's the big dude. You go through those type of situations.

It's fucking hard because, especially if you're up here at one point in your career and then you get knocked down, like my situation. And then you're playing that next year and you're kind of just looking around like, damn, like, you feel like you feel like you just kind of of lost respect from your team. There's just the only opinion that really matters. Like anything else you're probably projecting. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. So in your head. But, like, that's the game that they play in the NFL. Like, they don't even need to put pressure on you to come back. The biggest pressure on you to come back is the guys I pass in the hallway. Yeah. Like, going to practice. And I got fucking graze on it.

I'm walking to the... I remember, like, durability was not an issue for me. You know, I said, played in a hundred games in a row. Not a problem. Never missed a practice. Nothing. Got rolled up on holding up Phil Loddhalt, week one of 2014. I was a captain.

Next thing you know, I'm walking through the halls wondering if people even like me, bro. Right. That's a weird fucking thing, dude. Weird deal. And it happens to the best players in the league. So I think, you know, talking about Baker, whoever, it's just like it's a total, what have you done for me lately league? And, you know, playing hurts probably not a good idea either.

And that's what happened. Or was it his full rotator cuff, right? Yeah. And you think you're going to get all this respect. So here's where It might be a thing It's like When Baker like

Tours Labrum You think the players Would respect that You know eventually the coaches Are you're gonna play you're gonna play You better play it well There's a standard But I feel like

If you tore your labrum And you're playing You might not be playing I'm like damn The boy's really doing it though Like he's giving it all He's not bitching out And just sitting out

Which kind of cool That's what I would say I guess Yeah You know like people forget Like by week By the eighth week You're back in people are like, oh, he's good now.

But, like, you're not. That injury doesn't go away the rest of the year. So I do think, like, you know, that- And people forget once the farther, like you're saying, like week eight, like even the next year, people don't even remember that you're playing hurt. You're just judged on your stats and everything else. The organization. I only had X amount of catches, blah, blah, blah,

and not even remember the injury. Yeah, dude. And, like, the organization forgets. Like, you know what I mean? And you're like, man, if I fucking play hurt, they're going to look out for me next year. No, they're not, bro. I tore my PCL.

It might have been one of the years you were on Philly. Yeah. I can't remember, but I tore my PCL. Hey, big time shit talker when he was on Philly. I was. You were? Yeah. To who?

To everyone on my office line when we play. It was the year if you guys won the Super Bowl. But go ahead. Really? We'll bookmark that. We'll bookmark that. We'll bookmark that. Yeah.

Yeah, but I was just talking about. Hold on. Hey, we'll tell the story. I can tell you real quick. I was looking back to it. Tell me the PCL story. I won't go here because I'm shocked by that. Who's going first?

But I change. I'm like, not me, dude. I was just going to say to your point of, like, they're going to take care you the next year. Like, it was 16. Let's just say it was 16. Yeah. I tore my PCL against Philly. Sure.

And I'm back practicing on the ninth day from tearing my PCL. Right. Huge massive brace, you know, doing whatever I can off the field to get back as quickly as possible on the field. Yeah. It's some stuff that I don't even ask questions on. Yeah. So I can get out there and play because we played on Monday. Good stuff you didn't ask questions on?

Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Early prostate check? Yeah. What are we talking about here? No, like to get my knee right. Oh, got it, got it, got it.

Because we played a Monday night game and the backup blew a couple things and you just feel like sitting on there. You feel standing there on the sideline and everything else. And coach would be like, oh, man, we need you out there if we get you to just call the defense, all this different stuff, right? Yeah, we just need you to do that. Right. But you're in your own head, doing whatever it takes to get back on. You think it's extremely honorable, all the everybody in the locker room, everybody in the, that moment talks about how

you know you're like a savage you're a monster like I can't believe you're doing this right and I play like the last three games and we missed that last week because when the New York Giants they all flew to Miami to get on that boat and then they came and beat us by like one point or a couple of points the boat year the boat year and so we didn't get in

I got bad news for people by the way players are drunk as fuck in their home city too absolutely yeah yeah okay but that was we didn't play into the playoffs then so I was going into my restricted free agent year and you're of thinking like they might take care of you with a second tender or contract extension because you've been a captain and a starter for the team. All of this stuff played.

Wrong. He plays when he's hurt. He does all this stuff. He gets back on the field as quickly as possible. He sacrifices for the team. Bro, they don't give a fuck about that. They just use it against you because you are what your film is. It's a business.

So you're out there limping around with one tackle in the last, in the final two games of the year, I only had like one or two tackles. So I wanted to call the defense and be honorable. Like, they used to. You can't lead either from the back. So, like, you know, like when I came back from that injury in 14, I shouldn't have come back. And honestly, it changed my career forever. I got lucky.

I wound up on top with everything, but, like, I was lucky. Like, I easily could have signed with the wrong team. And I've been bitter the rest of my life. But I played hurt. Part of it was because I love my coach, Jeff Fisher, and I wanted to play for him, too. I want to play. I love Jeff Fisher, dude. And Jeff, like, didn't pressure me to play.

Like, in fact, there was a game where I went to, the front of the plane we're on the way to San Diego and I like could not walk dude but I just wanted to play like that like insecurity drove you to play yeah and I remember like I tried to argue with Jeff at the front of the plane he was like you're not playing so I appreciated him taking care of me but but like they can only do so much to stop you from yourself yeah you know what I I mean and then you put bad tape out there and that follows you you know what I mean so I was just like if if if I had to give a young player um advice and I know everybody's situation is different like don't do it unless it's a big situation.

Like you're, you know, you're in the playoffs. You have your money. Yeah, it always depends on where you're at in your career. Like, I rolled my ankle, my rookie year, and it was a two and 14 year. It was like week, 12. You've been through one. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. With two and 14 and three and 13 in the first two years. Tough. And so, but I called my age on my, yo, I got to play. He's like, how you can you set? I'm like, no. Like this shit, I have a splinted or something. And my age is like, dude, you were a first,

round pick. I'm like, yeah, but I owe this team. And he's like, you guys aren't going to make the playoffs. You guys are probably going to have the first or second pick in the draft. Like, what are you doing? Ben Simmons energy. And they had to like, yeah, yeah, don't put that on me. But he had to like legit talk me into, like, you should not play. Like, do not play. This is not smart for your career. Your first year. He's like, it's your first year in the league. So you don't know. Like, you're still in college. Low key. You're not that guy where you have a first round attitude. Like, you know, sometimes I wish, like, I have more of a first. around attitude where I would just like, you know, just boss people around and do what I wanted to do.

Do you really wish you had that a little bit? Maybe I'd have protected myself better in certain situations. That makes sense. You know what I mean? But the flip side of it is like not being that guy, people fuck with you. And, you know, like the one time it did pay off, I played with a high ankle my contract year. We were 2 and 14. And I was shooting that thing up.

Yeah. To get. And that was the best year I ever had. And so like the tradeoff of that is my ankle was probably never the same. But I will take the money. Yeah. They broke me off. So like mission accomplished, I'm sitting here looking at a house right now.

I'm like, thanks to playing on a high ankle. Right, exactly. So there are, it's a give and take. You got like a dance, you got to, you know. But it's also like for players, it can't be a double-edged sword. And I'm not saying which side I'm on. I'm just saying like if you're going to take the risk of doing the high ankle sprain and playing that way, then if you're 40, 42, 42, 43 years old and your ankle's fucked up now, like, you can't bitch at that. because you made the choice too.

Yeah, well. I don't know all the details when it comes to people getting their money and that sort of thing. Yeah, that's all way different. Right. Way, way, way different. But I will say, yeah, like me personally, I can only speak for myself. Like, I've never once looked back at my trainers and been, like, mad at them. You know, even when they were wrong about stuff.

Like, because usually I was ready to do that. I got, you know, I was jumping out of the airplane, dude. Like, we were like, fuck it. Let's do this. So, you know, I think trainers in the NFL could do a better job of, like, stopping players from themselves. But that's not in their best interest because they have pressure from upstairs. Exactly. When does that ready.

Huge game. And coaches don't understand, you know, what's going on in players' bodies. They don't have time to care or educate themselves. You know, like, and I get it. The disconnect is real in the NFL. It's almost like they need an arbitrator to decide when a player comes back, like something like that. Yeah. But that's just kind of the game, right?

because, like, when I was speaking about my thing earlier, right? Like, there's, like, you're sitting there as a player angry about it because your situation didn't work out. Yeah. But if I look back and think about it, it's, yeah, if you're up there playing GM mode and everything else, like, you might love the guy, but you still got to separate the person on the business side of it. And you got to see it for what it is.

That's what he looks like on film. I just don't like being lied to. That's true. But there's so many games being played, like you said, with the trainer thing. You can pressure me. They can definitely be better. And we all know trainers, like, we all talk shit in the offseason, right? Because we're like, oh, that's always third party.

That's why we outsource and do all this. But if you think about it from the trainer's shoes, like, they got to get the player out on the field as fast as possible. They keep their job. Their head coaches in there every morning. There's an total circle of accountability, dude. And everybody's just like, it's like hoping you're playing musical chairs. Like, hopefully I get a chair. Like, I don't want to be the one to fuck this thing up.

Right. Whether it's the player or the trainer. It's also a massive lack of accountability. Yeah. Like, we talk about it all the time on the bus. Like, dude's taking accountability, like, whether it's them, us, whatever. But, like, it is kind of a finger-pointing game when it comes to being hurt. Because the trainer's trying to save his ass.

And we don't only have this issue of the Titans. Todd's awesome. Right, right. Rabel's really good about stuff. Yeah. Shout to Reggie Scott and all my former trainers. And I'm telling you, it's good. This is just how it works.

I'm not coming at anybody at the Titans because I think they're outstanding. Yeah. But it is like a, it can turn into, like, that fuck in the office. Or everyone's kind of doing this. That's a really good one. And he's like, well, he's, but not me. You know what I'm saying? Because we're all worried about our building, dude.

Accountability and a football building's rare when people aren't looking to blame everybody else. And we've all done it in our careers and shit. Like you look elsewhere when shit, because especially you haven't been through a two and 14 year, a three and 13 year. I think the first eight games or eight years in my career, I think I won like 40 games or something in St. Louis. Like seven and nine was like, bam, we might go to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Oh, we're on the up and up, boys. Being on those teams, dude, it's like run for cover.

Because, like, you know on those teams, firings are inevitable. You know cuts are inevitable. You know, like, you're not even sure if the owner cares sometimes, like, based on the sightings. So everybody's just, like, their assholes are so tight. We used to call it, like, panic. Like, upstairs, they're panicking.

What's the panic meter today? After a loss, the whole thing. You can feel it in a football building. As a player, too, you can for sure feel it. And there's guys that have that, uh, more than others. Yeah. Like I know dudes on our team who like low-key have like a great pulse on what's going on in the building.

And there's guys like me who are just like, hey, I got to focus on my own shit. But you know, it's when coaches come in the meeting room and you all play good, but you lost. And they're just motherfucking people so people can hear them in the hallway. Yeah. Like that's the shit. That's the part of the business that I hate. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like that. Everybody's out in their own self-interest. Well, just be real, dude. Like we played well in a loss. we'll try to win next time. Right. They get paid too. You played shitty in a win.

Right. Be real. Don't coach off the result. Right. So about me shit talking. I shit talked to you guys. No, you didn't shit talk to me, but it was right? Because it was 2017, right?

When we played? 18 and we blew that game. We played terrible. Well, we also didn't play very well. You can imagine how bad we played. We jumped out like two touchdowns up on you. Yeah. And we came back and won that thing.

Was it overtime or was it the last drive? overtime, dude. Really? Well, I remember you, because I don't think Jack... Is this your house on the squad? This was... 18. This was dinosaur, Chris.

And you were playing strictly over the right title because I was going against your rookie from the VALS. Derek Barrett? Just talking about... Got out to my guy, Barnett. Barnett. And you and him were getting into it. Yeah.

And here's the thing about Derek Barnett. I will say this for any Philly fans listening. I love that motherfucker. And I would fight with him any day because he at least will fucking scrap. He'll go. And, you know, I think he's got to had a hard time up there, but you know he's like in your shit.

He's a tough place though, dude. Philly is a place you look at. Like, it literally looks like a war zone, like Libya or some shit like that. Or it's just like, oh my God. Like people are just like... Has he not been to Philadelphia, dude? Bro.

Have you known? No, I'm not talking about the city. I'm talking about, I'm talking about it. I'm not with a fan base. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, got it. Like when shit's not going right? That place is a dump and low-key. I'm not a huge fan of Philly. It's a great city, dude. Nah. Hey, I'm all right.

Hey, why don't we do something? I shouldn't have said Libya. Why don't you come up there and hang with a couple? I shouldn't have that. Lane, Kelsey, me. No, that'd be outstanding. We'll have a great weekend. Obviously, playoff, Willie's coming.

Yeah. I'll be there. But let me be there. Hey, I got to write this wrong. Let me land this planet. So Philadelphia is going to hit me for life. I think when you watch, when you're at the stadium and you see like the fans will openly get mad at your own team, their own team.

Oh, yeah. And you're like, oh, shit. Like, it's just fucking a war zone out here. It's crazy. You want. No, you do. You do, but it's fucking wild. You know, Philly fan bases, the Philly fan base.

You're jail inside the stadium. Not anymore, dude. Oh, they had a jail inside the stadium. I tell you what Philly is. Women also smoke cigarettes and drank pregnant. Get over it, dude. Like, anyways, I just feel like Philly fandom, like that fan base is kind of like the metaphor I would have would be that player in your team that you're like, I fucking

hated him when I didn't play with him. But he's the best teammate to have, dude. That's what a Philly fan is, dude. Yeah. Like, I know that I was kind of agnostic on it because I wasn't in the NFC East, but I heard a lot of the talk. But, man, like, that made my football career plan there, dude. Like, I'm not even blowing smoke.

Like, I love St. Louis. We don't have a team there anymore. Right. That's weird to, like, not have some place to go home to. Mm-hmm. So, like, I was kind of, like, NFL homeless. Really? It is true.

It felt like Philly. New England didn't really, and I really fuck with those people. They're cool. Yeah. Also wild animals. You're another guy. You know, like in New England, like, we were part of a machine. Yeah.

So I'm like, what have I done here that anybody else hadn't done? If you're going to be like taken, be like, okay. No, but they respect you. They're cool and they're knowledgeable. But then Philly, like, you know, basically we did something they've been waiting for forever. So, yeah, it's a special city. I love Philly. I think they're just, they're crazy, man.

Like, you love to have them out there on Sunday, but you probably hate to have them when you're on Twitter. That's exactly right. It's really all it is, right? They're that team made. Because they're so passionate and so fucking crazy. Like, I always tell you. people that that was my favorite place to like go and play because they hate you so fucking much.

If you're winning like this year you win the Super Bowl like that's a type of city you want to win for it. But when you're losing like yeah life is tough. They travel. I need that speech from Kelsey. I thought he crushed it. He crushed this speech, dude. The charges went on silent count at home. And now that was the charges in that weird little

and Sydney when they are in Indiana ago. That small little deal. The Philly fans like packed it bro. Oh they rolled deep. NFC East Loki reminds me of like old school Big Ten like Auburn, Alabama, like historical, like super in-it fans. Charter, Charter franchise.

Yeah, they're fucking about it. They're about it. Because I remember when we went that two and 14 season, Dallas played at our house. And it was like, okay, we got to go silent. We're not going to be able. We can't fucking hear nothing. We're here, dude.

When we were in St. Louis, brother, like we did not sell, you know, you're from. Yeah. Edward Jones dome. Shout out the Edward Jones. Yeah, the weird lighting. And listen, for anybody out there listening, like, I love that place.

complicated relationship. Definitely covering your ass on all these people. I loved them. The death are amazing. Patriots didn't see me in, but I love them to death. I didn't do that in New England. I didn't do that in New England if you didn't know if you wanted that. No shade.

But, you know, like St. Louis spent eight years there. Yeah. Awesome fans. But like we were one in 15, two and 14. So like the stadium wasn't packed. Yeah. Steelers would come in. We'd go on silent count.

Packers would come in. We go on silent count. Fucking you name it. I think the fucking Titans came in and we went on silent count. I don't know about that now. Not far. Really? Nashville and, you know, St. Louis.

Yeah, yeah, but also, what years were that? Was that, 2009? Well, y'all played there one time and beat us with the guy from Washington, who I here is a great kid. The guy from Washington. Oh, the quarterback. Oh, Jake Locker. He is great. Yeah.

He was there my rookie year. He was outstandingly. He's a great dude. Great fucking dude. Loki loved the fact that he just, like, disappeared into the abyss. No, that's what's awesome. He's just gone now. Do you ever feel like you wish you did that?

Like, well, you're not retired yet. but you're not retired. I'll ask myself. Ask yourself now. I'm like scanning the room for somebody who's openly retired. Openly retired. Okay. Hey, dude.

Do you ever feel like when you retire, you want to like not do this? Like just like the podcast and stuff? Like this is kind of a like live in a real bus somewhere. Just disappear. Yeah, I would say there's to be cool, I would say yes. But yeah, for sure, I want to disappear up the face of the earth. When, to be honest with you, it's the exact opposite for me. I'd have no social footprint.

That sounds fucking cool some days, doesn't it? I mean, some days does, but like thinking of doing the podcast, and my relationship, I feel like it's so different on Twitter. Like, I love Twitter. Yeah, you do. You know what I mean? Like, I have a good time on it. There was a day where I love Twitter.

I see my younger version of myself and you. What happened? Where did it go sideways? You just, like, it was a really fun little room, and now it's just like everybody has a fucking opinion. And, you know, like, I don't know, dude. I guess there's a party that will grow out of the wanting to banter with the public. Because I think the public opinion stuff is funny.

I'm like, how do we have fun? When your kids get older. I think you stop having time to like argue with everybody. Not every day. But like, or to tweet. Like, you know,

it's like harder to be like, I'm syncing into this app, you know, uh, and I have two kids that are only six and three for like a certain amount of time. You know what I mean? So like, I do feel like sometimes the content's awesome,

but you're like, God damn, dude, I'll never be. in my 30s again, what if I wake up at 50? And I'm like, I should have just fucking got a bus. Yeah. Disappeared. Well, how long are you on this app to make you feel like you got to?

I'm really not, dude. I just, it burns a hole in your pocket. See, I don't know because since my kids are not getting older, four and then almost two, like, especially my four-year-old, she wants my attention a lot more. Like, I, like, designate, like, put times in my head, like, hey, I'll get home. I'll eat at 1 o'clock, okay, from 1.30 to, like, two. I'm going to smack as many tweets as possible.

And then when the kids go to sleep, I'm going to spend another half hour to an hour on that thing. Just smack. Like, get my fucking content numbers up, my tweets up, and then I'm kind of out of there. I'm really hard. Like, I'm tough to do. I'm really bad at doing anything formulaic. So, like, yeah, no, I get it. It's difficult to do. Yeah, to be like, oh, yeah, from this time of day to this time of day. Being super structured. For the point of engaged or scheduled, Will.

Uh, I don't, the other day was 420, so people gave me shit because of what you were talking about. Yeah, it's 420, gris. I liar you, like all that stuff. Yeah. I didn't know it was 420. Seems like you guys have to unpack that a little bit. Yeah. Him being high? No, you tell me at him for being high.

Oh, oh. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that that was spark at something. Dude, yeah. I did not know that. I had to deal with Bo Allen this weekend. You know, it's like lame. Like when you talk about, when you talk about something and you're like one of the few people

that are talking about it, people make you like you're supposed to get like you're cool for it. I just wish everybody else would talk about it. I think more people are. It's like drinking a beer to me. Now it is. Now it is. but like a couple of years ago,

I didn't feel like there were that many players that were talking about, bud. See, or you can think about it like this. Like, you did it before it was cool. No, but like the problem is, if I saw, if I was sitting here looking at Chris Long talking about weed, I think he's doing it to be cool.

Yeah. I'm just being like myself. I'm just, right. I can't, you know, I don't have really a filter. So I was on Dan Patrick and he asked me something. What do you ask you? Do you remember the question it was?

Yeah. I probably had to do. Some, do people smoke in the NFL? And, like, I don't like to, like, give numbers or, like, dry snitch on people. So I was just kind of like, I mean, I've done it from time, time, you know? Right. And then it became this thing, like, there were memes with me, uh, sucking a bong with, like, bloodshot eyes. And it's a crisp bong.

Yeah. And I'm like, hilarious. And then for a year, like, every fan I met, like, at a bar was like, you hi? Or, like, you want to go to the fucking alley with me, man? I'm like, yeah, I want to smoke your fucking Reggie weed, like, you know, like, I'm paranoid. I'm paranoid talking to you. You think I want to go smoke with you.

So I do think, like, that's kind of annoying with it. You know what I mean? Like, we smoke on the pod. Like, Dr. Fax is here. Like, our producers complain about the smell. And podcasting is hard high, too, as you're noticing. I think I've been doing a solid job. I think you've been doing great, but.

I feel like I'm in it. Like, I feel like early on you were like, fuck, what are we doing? Well, there's a couple times you just ended with a glance. I mean, I'm thinking, oh, I wasn't really listening to you. That's the problem, dude. Oh, my God. But honestly, that shit makes you better in a lot of things. Like, you know, like, you know, for me, I'm like, I can relax, focus, kind of like that sort of thing.

I can get crazy ADHD. Yeah. I'm just all over the place. Yeah, that stuff definitely, I've heard, can help quite a bit for other people, but me. The word on the street is that it can help. Yeah, I heard. Do you have ADHD? Oh, hard.

So maybe it could help you. I have ADHD so bad that when Brable was ahead, when he was, like, his first year as head coach, called me in his office in, like, November was like, hey, you should probably go get tested for ADHD. Yeah, dude. Like, that bad. I was like, really?

Like, you'd think so? And he's like, yeah, so I went and did it. And you're supposed to go through, like, two or three, like. Tested off the charts. I don't believe it. She's like, how do you feel about this and this? And I was like, oh, I feel like, I already answer the questions or whatever. In like 10 minutes, and she's like, okay, so you have ADHD.

And they prescribe me, Ritalin or one of those. And, um, I looked at the, I fucking had the pill and I looked at and I go, do I want to become that person that is like, changes like myself. Like, does this change me, my brain chemically? Because it's weird to say, but I fucking love myself. Like, I love, like, the way my brain works.

And I love how I see things and stuff like that. And I like, if I start taking this, am I going to start seeing the world through a different filter? That's got to be cool. Yeah. So I never took it ever. But I would act like I was on Ritalin when I was in the building. So you try to put on a facade that you could actually go.

I literally Googled, yeah, I, like, legitimately, I'm one of those people like, if you tell me like, hey, you can't do that, I'm going to go do it. Right. And I know that sounds kind of cheesy and gave it to say, but like, I like Googled, I googled like side effects of what's that? I think we'll post it the other day somewhere in the timeline. I, uh, I googled like side effects. Fake laugh. He's mad at me. No, I'm not.

Fuck this guy. He comes on the bus and just gives me shit. I do. He does a good guy. I'm hydrating king I'll sit here thinking I do got to take a piss Go pee then You might have a small bladder

You know I got a big bladder No I got a big bladder dude Dude that's fucking hilarious Oh my God Anyway I didn't take the riddle in I decided that I was just gonna act like I was on riddle in And I did for the rest of the year And it's better to just raw dog life bit

Yeah 100% Just be who you are Now I can't say that for everybody Because for some people is very disruptive Not everybody gets to be, not everybody with ADHD gets to be a child, the rest for 30 years. Yeah, nice.

Like, I'm not saying it doesn't take incredible discipline. No, but you knew, what you're saying is 100% correct. Our D-Line room is like a daycare center, dude. Like, dude's laying on the floor. Like Mike Waffle, our D-Line coach, who was like this former Marine. Yeah.

And he had this whole like way of thinking about like a D-Line brain. And we got cell phone breaks. We got to sit like in certain periods. We got to lay on the ground. we just talked, we threw things at each other. We made sure we got through the film because he knew that everybody was so fucking touched in a way. Dude, it's tough.

I had a coach just like that Russ Grimm who was, like he could tell that we were getting, like, you know how the season is. It's just fucking long, but not this. It's crazy. And we would go, we'd hit the film and he'd be like, instead of watching all 65 snaps, he'd be like, pull up those 25 clips.

And he'd rip through those clips real quick. And then he'd be like, all right, Ben Jones, Taylor, get on the board. The word is superfluous. And then you would take the word, and you'd have one minute to make as many small words as you could out of that. Yeah. And we would just play and look at YouTube. And we had office lineman Josh Klein, who was like straight up.

Josh Klein. Out the gate. Yeah. Hardcore ADHD. Like he wouldn't take his medicine on Saturdays and we'd all call him jiggles because he was fucking off the walls. I think it's harder for y'all than us. Yeah. Because y'all play a position that you need to be focused.

And you have so many variables in y'all's playbook. and what you do from play to play, like, we're like a nine technique. Yeah, react, yeah, but you're very reacting. Oh, it's New England super structured. Oh, listen, dude, like, and I don't, it's a great, it's, the system has worked. Yeah, we were there, we were the number one scoring defense in league,

and we were not talented. We didn't have the best players in league. Well, the Patriots are never like that. They never have, like, this star-studded cast of, like, they have 10 elite guys on the defense. They just constantly, the coaching's pretty incredible. There's big bladder. I got away.

Here's my dog. Hydranti. He's a hydrated Willie. That's going, bro. You go to the Patriots. Yeah, let me get in this mango. I was, like, filed in. What was the best one?

We were talking about scheme in New England and how complicated it is. We were talking about how, if you're a D-Lyman, you really don't need to know much, respectfully. Like, you need to, like, if you want to take to the next level,

where it's the safety, like, you know, like, what are the tendencies, like, look at in formations. But, like, honestly, a lot of guys don't do that in the league. With who you've played with, who does?

formations and stuff? I'll tell you who does it. Who does not or does? I'm going to tell you who does it. Okay. Does one. Oh, 100%. Listen, let me tell you so about it.

I tell his story a lot. When I was a rookie, when he was a rookie, and this was like three days in, so I figured out that he was a Hall of Famer two days earlier. Yeah. He fucking, I used to like watch film a little bit because, you know,

like, I'm not that good. So, um. Second overall pick. Yeah, but not that good, though. like, like not like that.

You know, so I got to get a little edge. So I'd be there at the end of camp and, like, come in and watch like 20 minutes of film. Not crazy, but just come in at the end. And that room was always open. I'd never had to kick anybody off the chair. And I can remember the third day end, it's the sun's going down or whatever it is. And everybody's out of the building. And I walk in there and Aaron Donald's sitting there watching film.

And he's not doing his show off. There's no coaches in the building. He's doing that because he's, like, serious about his craft. And I'm telling you, this dude, like, watch his film. I'm like nobody I played with, and he's more talented than everybody I play with. So that's what makes him right. And he's on the line. You know what I mean?

No, yeah. He's understanding formations and shit like that. It separates him from even his competition. Yeah. And that's why that guy is so great is because he's perfect here and he's perfect, you know, as a best. We all see his physique. That's the thing people don't know. He's like.

They see the greatest of all time? The best defensive linemen of all time. Defense a player? Best three technique of all time. Right now? I mean, you know, the thing... Well, what do you mean? What happens if, like, unless a suitcase falls out of a 747 and crushes Aaron Donald tomorrow,

he's the best three technique I've ever seen play the game. He would have to retire after this year? All due respect. No, because I'd have to look at the numbers. But, no, I mean, like, he's got 100 sacks already. That puts him in the Hall of Fame, right? He has 100 sacks. Yeah, he's a Hall of Fame.

No question. He's a Hall of Famer already. His competition, I don't want to leave anybody out, like, great players, like Warren Sapp, like one of the best players of all time. Period. So I'm not even saying it's a weak position. John Randall, some of the best players of all time.

I just, I'm biased because I saw it up close. Yeah. And I feel like as a rusher, the only guy, he's got 98 sacks right now. Look at him trying to fit in that tuxedo. Look at how thick his neck is. He's got the neck on him.

Yeah. To measure his neck twice. They were like 26 inches. Is that, can that? Are we doing like the English metric system here? Look at that fucking guy's, his abs, bro. But he works his fucking.

fucking ass off, dude. He's also like 265 in that photo. I don't think he's 265, dude. He walks around in 285, dude. I don't believe that. Promise you. Look at pictures of him from Pitt. That's 285. No, no, no, no, muscle weighs more than fat. I understand.

I'm not calling him fat at Pitt, but because I would not do that. Yeah, no, I would not. He's like, find me on the butt. He's like, he's one of my buddies, but I don't want him roll up on me. No, no, no, no. I think, no, I'm with you on Aaron Dole. He's one of the, he's one of the greatest full time. Pull up a picture of him at, at Pitt.

that is a completely different body style than it is now. Completely different. Like, think about it. A lot of kids don't even have, like, you know, have money to invest in their nutrition. I'm not saying he didn't, but I'm just saying, like, this dude's eating cheeseburgers at Pitt.

Yeah. Like, this guy, if you give him a million dollars, you know, like a check, I bet you he reinvest half of it in his, in his work ethic and in his body and in his brand, which is his career. So, like, I bet you he's doing everything humanly possible to be out there and be at his best.

He's a stud. You think, so your opinion would change if he would have retired after winning the Super Bowl. If you were retired. I still believe like, okay, I do think there's some room for interpretation on that thing because like the greatest, the best of all time to do whatever it is.

Like, you've got guys in the Hall of Fame who didn't do it for 12 years. Like, Carl Davis is a perfect example. Cowboy Reed. Do you hear you? Yeah. Yeah. Coward Reed's out there. Broncos fan.

But, like, there are guys that, you know, they're better than guys that play. 10 years and maybe had more yards than them or whatever. Yeah. Because you saw it. Like, what does the film tell you? Like Patrick Willis. Yeah, Patrick Willis.

Stud. Calvin Johnson? Very Sanders, dude. Yeah, Calvin Johnson. Like, you can tell me because somebody plays like 10 years longer that like you're going to hold like certain stats against Calvin Johnson that were like just, you know, accruing sacks or yards or to me. Yeah.

And I know you want the sound bite, but I'll give it to you. Aaron Donald's the best of all time at his position in my opinion. clip that, clip that. Yeah, clip it. You guys are pros. I think you're trying to, you're trying to ask, too, like, does he get labeled? Like, is his title universally knows? Does his title all the go?

When I say, who's the greatest football player of all time? Who's the greatest football player of all time? Older people will always say Lawrence Taylor. No, no, no, I'm saying in general. Oh, I'm giving you a defense. Which we're all going to say, we're all going to say Tom Brady. You guys are white, too, bro. It's Tom Brady.

John Brady. 100%. The greatest, he's the greatest. He's the greatest defense. He's the greatest defense of all time. If the first person comes to your mind isn't Aaron Donald. then it's probably Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor

I mean like you ask older coaches I think Lawrence Taylor's the best of all time because the guy I heard the guy had a fire ladder at the hotel like and you know what that's for to get out of the building right when the building's on fire but it also helps when you want to sneak out

to party night before the game oh the guy like think of all we have yeah that he did think of all we have to do to get ready and like hydrate and like when we get to an away game. I bet you, you go to your room, you drink as many waters. The first place I go to is the IV. Oh, I need an IV.

I need my NID, I need my O's now, I need my vitamin bag. Yeah, Lawrence Taylor had an IV of good time, dude. Yeah. And Lawrence Taylor would come to the building and just fucking, this is all hearsay. So I don't want to disrespect the man. But I think it's well known. He came to the building and he'd take a nap. They'd wake him up

and he'd go like have five sacks. Right. Bro, like my best game in my career, like everything goes into that. That's why to me, Lawrence Taylor is maybe the best defensive player of all time. Like, it's hard to compare. It's like two different jobs. Two different generations, too.

I think it's much harder in football to compare, like, positions and say that guy's the best. Like basketball, there's a little less variability in what that player does on the court. You know, so I think it's hard to do the greatest of all time in football. You are great at conversations. You're having fun? Don't you think he is? No, he's outstanding. and he's weird.

You're a worst-ung guy and you have analogies to go on analogies. Like, it's just... Fuck, he's right. After this, after this, you're jumping on a plane. I am. But I don't want to stop when you have to leave. No, no, that's fine. Let me take the time.

We and this guy have a lot of catching up to do. I gotta leave in... Okay. Yeah, we're good. Okay, we're good. Yeah, we have lots of time. I just want to stay on the bus. That's okay.

I'm supposed to go to Las Vegas. Yeah. Yeah, we'll stay at by 1230. Yeah, something like that. Dude, I told you I was going to get here. And this man this morning is like when I land, he's like, I'm not mad, but your team said you'd be here at 845. I'm like, well, he knows that I have, I was like, when Will call me is like, hey, Chris is going to be here. I'm like, I got to work out.

I can't make it. And he's like, hey, he's literally coming in just to do R-Pod, then he's leaving. I'm going to motivate you to work earlier. Here I am. Yeah, and you look awesome, dude. You're going to have a great year. You're right, though. There's a lot of juggling going on the brain.

I'm a lot going on for Will. I know, I know, I was going to try to turn around on you, but. I know. This isn't as much of a ball busting session as I thought it would be. I got you back. I got you back. I got you back. What was that?

He said team, team, team, like, make sure we, we. I got to have Will's back. Like, oh. Is that like a code you have here? No, no, no, no. There's no, no, there's no. Yeah, there's really not a code. What you got in there?

Is that actual alt-oids? More stuff. Okay. Yeah, we're good. When you're going, we're going to the draft right now, what are you doing at the draft? I am doing a Coors Light draft segment. So, like, well, we've been doing the Coors-Light draft segment.

segment. We're doing a live watch, like, first round, and I can't think while I'm doing this. But yeah, no, like, so we're going to do live watches with a couple guys, like, who do we have on who's coming by? Will Blackman, you know, he does, like, Wine MVP, that's my dude. He's also got a great

Twitter account. Yeah, yeah. When I sign on, I'm like, I want to see more guys like Will Blackman on Twitter. He's sneaky. He was later in the game. So he's climbing. He's growing. He's very clever. He's kind of wise ass. He really gets on your ass. He really get on your ass on the time.

timeline. It's funny too because you're like looking like I agree with you like Will is a great like Twitter follow. Yeah. In fact man like you don't you're not able to like get all that growth that he Will should have. To me we should have so many fucking followers. Don't you hate that when you're like this is a banger and it's like 25 likes. Yeah. This is a banger. Yeah. 25 likes. So um will's coming by who else coming by there? Eric Armstead. Eric Armstead. Eric Armstead. Yeah. Good player. Wait, Eric Armstead, Saints tackle? No. Austin Ekller.

Bullitt. What? No, that's, that's, that's, Ron Armstead. So, bulletin board material. Do you play the Niners this year? That's going to be tough because we're going to post that. We'll pull this.

No, no, no, no. This league. Eric Armstead, no, we don't play. He's a three technique from San Francisco, the tall guy that somehow is still awesome. Yeah, yeah, okay, I know that is. I think he played Oregon, right? Yeah, Oregon guy. Okay, yeah.

So when him and Buckner, him and Buckner were the two guys. You're my dog, dude. him and Buckner were the two guys. Buckner's a place for the Colts now. And they had to choose between the two of them. And they traded for a nice trade to the Colts just fucking started to say and shit. So wait, what's Bolton board material? Three-way trade between.

Just so Taylor can respond to you between. What's the full clip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about it, Vegas? We were going to have a great time. But it's been a hilarious. I heard you talking about your fucking little schedule. Our schedule has been crazy, dude.

Schedule with my last couple days. Like, I was in Charleston for a guy's trip. we got down there, the boys, like, I'm in a different stage of Fatherhood. I can take these trips. Had a great time. And then went straight to my golf tournament. That was nonstop. Hopped on a bird to see you guys.

And now we're going to go to Vegas for three days. And I think after I'm asleep for a week. Are you pretty well right now? I'm tired, dude. Hey, it's pretty cool to call airplanes birds too. Well, yeah, it's not like we do them enough. But like, you can't say. Hoping on a bird to come to you guys.

Yeah. You know what I mean? If you say private jet, also, what's your fucking, what's your kind of like policy on post-stop? pictures of your private airplane. It's very hairy. It's a very hairy situation. If you're a rapper, you can do it.

If you're a rapper, I can afford one. When you do it? Oh, yeah. Well, we ain't worried about you will. You're not for sure. I think it depends. I think it depends.

Private Willie. Yeah, Private Willie. That's, it really depends on, first off, who you are and what your quote-of-what brand is. So if Will,

where to go and do that, it's right on brand because, like, Brian, he posts everything. He's monetizing his child. Like, he's literally, he'll post that. That's a funny thing. I'm not the only person,

Bustin's one. Right. No, no, no, no. That's not. Because, like, it is odd. Fatherhood's off. You're like, hey, that's hilarious. He's doing that.

You should be. Oh, dude, I am excited. And you're fucking funniest as shit on Twitter. So, you know. I don't think I was looking too much into it. If anything, I'm thinking about the up, when I said up and down, it's like, I might sound like I just hate fatherhood right now.

No, you love, you have been a dad. you had a tough night last night. It's all right. Yeah, she didn't go down very well last night. But the whole being on a plane thing, when you do it... Pass the baton, dude. I don't know how you feel like this, Chris, but when you get on a private plane, like,

you think it's the coolest thing ever. No, I just think it's great not to have to, like, go... Yeah, but you... It's not like a... It's not like, oh, I feel like, you know, like Alex Rodriguez or something. No, I'm saying... I'm saying...

Just relax, Will. I'm saying whenever I get on it, Whenever I get on a bird and I walk up to it, I always am like super grateful. Like have like low-key like a reflection of like, damn. It's cool that I get to do this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

You want to share that. You want to be like, look at this, but I have a hard time ever posting myself on a jet. You know where our brand is and what we do, how we're constantly tweeting about everything going on in our lives, it makes it easier to justify that. Yeah.

But. You know how it is most of time. A lot of times we're just in our own head about it. You know what I mean? But also I see our players. I see other players do it. When I see other players do it, I'm like, eh, come on, bud.

That's you? Yeah, but if that's all they post. No, I don't post it. I don't post it. Like, yeah, like, we'll do it sometimes. I will. If I was with Will, I would do it. That's weird, right?

No, because I've never done it on yours. Huh? That's the only reason I've never done it with yours. Yeah, oh, that is right. You never. I've never done it. Like, you feel like, here's the scary thing. You both.

I don't like, yeah, I don't like people knowing that's off. You both are taking that picture thinking, oh, like, he knows it's not corny. And it's like a leap of faith, but maybe it is corny. Yeah. And the strength of numbers thing. It doesn't really...

That's what it is. You should ask the timeline if it's... Right. Right. I think it's kind of like... It's kind of like hard-o to like post a private jet picture. But I also get to like... Fuck, dude, it's cool.

You are cool. You're telling a airplane where to go. It's like GTA. Right. You're not going to do anything bad with it. You could. I mean, leave that for interpretation. It doesn't come out until after the ride.

Yeah. So my pilots aren't going to hear this. My pilots. For the day they are. It's fucking dope. Hey, for what I've paid, yeah, there are my... Especially gas prices right now? Yeah.

Holy fuck. You must be hurting right now a little bit, taking that thing to Vegas. Well... We know you ain't hurting, boss. I ain't worried about it. Well, the podcast pays, well. Yeah, let's go.

Let's go, dude. Oh, yeah. They're probably taking care of it. No. Partially. I was going to say, come on, though. His business. How is your relationship with them with Blue Wire?

Who's your relationship with them? Blue Wire or wind bed or what was you deal? Blue Wire, the win. I mean, like, the reason we went with Blue Wire and talking to Kevin Jones and those guys is like, we don't, as you could imagine, knowing me a little bit. Like, I don't want to be metal with, dude. I don't want to have to deal with shit.

And you guys have some good breathing room too, I hear. Even being on bar stool, like. Will is a fucking wizard, though, dude. Like, I'm like you or I'm like, can I just come and do the podcast and enjoy myself? Believe it or not, that's not me. Really? What I'm saying is I don't like to be told what to do.

You know what the guys in the back? My producers are like, Like, that is not how he is. Like, because I produced the pod, dude. Like, these guys produce the pot with me. Read, me, Matt. We're a team. So, like, you know, I'm a little particular.

And, uh, and I don't, I don't ever want to get a call and be like, the pod's too long. Like, you want to micromanage you. You want to, you want to micromanage yourself. You don't want to be paying the bills. Yeah. I'm running a business. You know, it's like, that's been the craziest thing about this podcast is like, you learn, you're learning a new skill. But I'm also learning to actually be an adult.

Like, as I do. No doubt. Like you said before, hey, being a kid for 30 years, like you said. Yeah. We've been able to be children for 30 years of our lives. Yeah, dude. And my guys that work with me probably know that. And I'm not always great at what I do.

Like, you know, on the microphone, hopefully our audience likes it. But, like, I also think sometimes, like, it's hard to come to work with one of us. You know, like, we're scattered. We're, like, all over the place. So these guys work super hard. But the wind, Blue Wire, they've been great. I love the win because I used to stay at the wind. Like, real talk.

Like, I'd go there on our trips as a player. and just get blasted at the wind, enjoy their breakfast sausages, and their fucking, their hash browns, their shape like triangles and their beautiful pool. That's the best shape

for a hash brown, too. Isn't it? That or the McDonald's, that oval is a little bit. And the way it slides out of that package. Oh, that thing flies out of that package. And it's a little crisps.

I think he's the movement downstairs. I love how he's talking about his business and we heard hash browns were like, how about them ovals, though? I don't want to make this about me. I want to talk about Hashbound. The podcast is little of you. I know, it's a weird thing.

But you know how that is when you go on a guest to somebody and you're like Cogerson and not making your podcast all about you. Yeah. I don't know. Do you do that? I don't know. Yeah. No, yeah.

I'm with you. What do you do? You're me with? You sit there. He sucks. I see him cracking a smile and I'm like, oh, he's starting to think about me. Like, this is so cool because I'm such a fan of Will Compton. Obviously, you know, being Taylor Luan fan too,

playing against Taylor. You line. Huh? So you line? No, you're a tattooed dude. who's doing great in the league. Like, we got to stick together, dude. I'm with that.

You're both tatted white dudes. White guys in the league. White dudes. Who are outspoken. Strong chins? Strong jaws. Yeah, strong jaws. Hands and boys.

I get it. I'm with her. It's so funny. I've been laughing at this motherfucker and we've played at each other, but I've never met you. I know. That was weird. We were like, we were like, we hugged.

We were like, oh, no, it's good to see. Like, I don't talk to on the fucking phone. I talk to the phone. I talk on the phone with Will Compton, bro. But, um, you know, the win is super cool. And they give us freedom. And I don't always like to talk about the same thing as y'all probably do.

Like some days I come in and I feel like talking about something different. And it's nice. I'm also self-selective to run your podcast like that. Like I'm not going to try to chase the crowd as you all don't. You've done something unique. You'll never have to compare yourself to anything else. Because if you start doing that, then you try to beat other people. You know what I mean?

Yeah. If you start like, what are they doing over there? You can copy certain things like how they put out socials, how long their pods are, that sort of thing. But I think if you start being like, people like that person and that's how they're acting, like, you can't do that because you're going to be not yourself. So I think like it's really cool to be on our own. You know, it sounds like you guys have latitude too. It's tougher because people don't like blue wires, you know, not as recognizable sometimes as some of the other brands, but it's growing. And we really have to earn our keep and that's cool.

I'm fine with that because the people that are listening really fuck with it. The people that don't listen, like, I don't have to worry about. Last thing I ever want is somebody having to click on our content being like, this guy sucks. And he's on my landing page. Like, you know, the ringer or barstool is sharing this guy and he sucks. Well, if you're listening to us, like, that's your fucking problem. You know what I mean?

And that's the nice thing about kind of being on our own a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I do like, it is cool being part of barstool for the reasons you're saying like it's stuffing on blue wires. Like when people are like, oh, you're with your barstool, right? kind of comes off a different way for sure. There's a lot of associations.

And it gives you, you guys are your own people, so many different ways to cross pollinate and stuff like that, it's just, it's super beneficial. That is cool. That's really cool. You know,

we've been able to cross pollinate a little bit with people from Blue Wire. Funny word too, cross pollinate. But it's a fucking great word and we're using it. Yeah, we're using it. I love it. You can get a yell at me.

I heard cross fertilize. I heard cross fertilize this weekend. Really? Yeah, that's a weird deal. Fuck those guys, right? The bees, dude. Yeah. The bees is where it's at for,

Sure. I like cross-fertilize. You're a cross-fertilized? I like that. Over across Parliament? You're a, you're a, you're a Midwestern guy. So you would like cross-fertilized. It's so weird to me that Missouri's in the Midwest.

There's a lot of fertilizer in the Midwest. There's a lot of fertilizer. So y'all Midwesterners is ready to be like, did you call me a Hoosier? Why do y'all say that, Hoosier? What do you mean? I don't really say that. It's like a redneck. It's the word for Redneck in Missouri.

Isn't that what Indiana's slogan is? Oh, right. Yeah. I'm just saying I don't feel like people go around just calling people Hoosiers. Oh, really? That's not a thing? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But I do feel like Cusers understood that you're like a redneck.

You all have a different dialect out there. We do. Yeah. You've been out of Missouri, man. Cross-fertilized. Salt of the Earth. I love Missouri, dude. I don't love it in fucking July.

But you don't love Emo's pizza. I do not like Emo's pizza. Have you had this? He hasn't had it. He actually, he's told me about it, but I don't. They actually, it's a long process. It's like a really long process. They just put a piece of cheese that you've never heard of on, on Highway 40.

And then they just let the Missouri's son bake it on a piece of bread for like three weeks, I think. So it's a really long process to get that. I don't know if this is true. Is this a real thing? No, I'm just shitting on the case. I was like, what, three weeks? You think the pizza rips, bro?

You think the pizza rips. And that's the biggest, like, your taste buds are all about how you grew up. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. People think I'm weird as fuck for doing peanut butter sandwiches as chili. I was just going to bring that up. I was just going to bring that up. Peanut butter sandwiches and chili.

I thought that you were doing a bit. Like, you know how people do fuck up food. Bloss. He goes viral. He did like a deviled egg the other day. Peanut butter and jelly. Bro.

I'll try anything, but probably not that thing. Dude. And that blows my mind. It's really not bad. Will made it for me one time. It was really good. I enjoyed it. Right?

I thought it was good. Were you medicating your ADHD at the time? No, I haven't medicated it. Come on. We can be better listeners. No, I know that. I'm blessed at your ball. dip some peanut butter sandwiches in it.

And if you like, mix a little bit of honey with that peanut butter. I was talking about marijuana. What about marijuana? You had the munchies. I was saying, why would you eat it? No, I don't smoke weed, dude. I care about my career. I know that, too.

It's a joke. Dude, so when we were in COVID, when we had the new nanogram testing, it went from like 20 up to 50. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait? Yeah. It was like 150.

Or 150. Because it used to be like, hey, you got a little speck in there. Your ass is God. Sorry, Will. That was rude. not being, I'm okay. Okay. Now I'm starting to get in my bag.

Cool, cool, cool. But, so we were in COVID, so we're at home every day, all day long, up late at night, playing risk. So the boy, we would laugh about it and take sometimes. Like, I'd take an edible, and then I'm sending a photo to you when I'm in the bag of night. Yeah. So I'm taking a few edibles. Is this funny? Should I say this?

I might hire a guy to be with me when I'm blowing an edible. Go ahead. So, whenever the new CBA or the nanogram levels went up, I remember. ordering on Amazon just all a lot of drug tests so I could figure out how many how many days a row I could go without it being in my system no and then how long I took it for to exit my system so that way I knew like when I'm like earlier I'm like oh I'd pass the test because in my head like I did the science during COVID you did when we were when we were trapped my man was hey he was playing chess sounds like LeBron talking about his game winning shot I've already taken this shot like I've done this

in my head a hundred times there I was like we get another box like oh this is just my drug He's like, are you still doing that experiment? And I'm like, yes. Hey, dude. And you knocked out of the park, though. Will, get a fake dick. Just get a fake dick, dude. A fake dig.

That'd be so scary to do. Just whiz and hater. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Dude, to execute that? I don't know. I will. Look, if you have something in your pocket on the way into the...

Well, and you got, like, flop it out. And hey, oh, dude, you got a press on it. They've got you, I don't know. You would imagine. Is that what happens? I know, I have no idea. One thing, dude, we were playing the Ravens, my rookie year. Yeah.

And I go to the bathroom. I'm sitting on the toilet. I'm about to wipe. I pull the fucking tissue out. And there's like a jingling. And I'm like, what the fuck? So I keep pulling the tissue. A syringe fell out.

Like of steroids? Like a syringe just came out of the toilet, like the toilet paper dispenser and fell on the floor. Do you think a lot of people? I don't know, dude. But I don't think a lot of people. I was like, in my mind, I was like, in my mind, I was like, there's no way that somebody on the fuck out of here will that dumb shit i'm just messing around and though i'm joking i guess i had a p ed what in my mind like you go i know that's the thing i forgot about it

like people take the wrong shit sometimes it's crazy uh it's crazy uh you think it's like the biggest thing in the world and then it kind of just goes away that's like almost anything yeah it's pretty much everything sort of like yeah killing somebody like mostly like ray lewis so what are you talking about i'm not laughing oj murder Stab. No, we talk about OJ. I was at a NASCAR race recently. You follow Ray Lewis?

Yeah, I see it. Who's 19? Martin Trex Jr. Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. Did that guy? All right, cool. So I had to pick a favorite NASCAR driver.

And I picked him. And then it's really cool at NASCAR, as you guys probably know. Like, they just hang out before the races. Like, they're getting ready to basically play, you know, the Buccaneers or something. You've got to block JPP, but 30 minutes before you're sitting in, like, a garage talking to sponsors. That's, like, how they change. in their full NASCAR uniforms. I looked up, I saw Martin Truex Jr.

He was like, Jesus, he was just like he had an aura. But I got to drive the pit car. How dope was that? Not the pit car, the face car. Pace car. Pace car. That's the, uh, and I felt like Al Collings, the guy that was driving OJ around because they're all right behind you, dude.

It's like a hundred cop cars. And I probably, I was changing the subject from Ray Lewis. Yeah. I'm probably, he might have been there. You know what I mean? You don't think he did it? I have no idea, dude. But have you met Ray Lewis?

Yeah, but you tell me, do you think he did it? When I talked to him, I don't think so. I've never spoke to him. I don't know that. For me, it's okay to drag his name. I don't know that dude, and I didn't, and I wasn't there. So I was going to ask, like, did he? I don't think he did.

Okay. Okay, is he a little too much of a me guy, though, you think? Survivor. He gave a speech and he, like, looked at me one time, call me 5-1, and it'll forever be. He said 5-1. Oh, for real? Oh, yeah. they couldn't see what I was seeing

5-1. I was like No, they fucking couldn't, Ray. But that's the thing like, all Hall of Fame. I used to listen to Ray every day in college. For real. They're like, Lionbackers. Yeah. They're great orange whores, bro.

Whatever the fuck that word is. They tell, like, they say things. And people are just like, yeah. Yeah. When you're in Hall Fame, people just say, yeah. You can say whatever you want, huh? Whatever you want, bro. That's what I do with my dad.

But he actually says some really cool shit. Yeah. But, you know, like, if he ever does it, I'm like, yeah. There are some guys who are, like, super into themselves about, like, all right, these people are they going to want me to tell a story? Let me get a story. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is, like, when you're like that guy, like, you've been, he's been

pumping up NFL teams for everything's motivational. Like, he's, you know, that kind of. Ray or your dad? Ray, no, not my dad. Yeah, your dad gives off totally different vibes. And his sketcher commercials, I feel like I can walk up to him and fucking shake his hand and give him a hug right away. That is a great person, dude.

He seems like a fantastic guy. He's down to earth. Play golf at my golf. tournament yesterday, like our title sponsor, like he just brought him back to the house to kick it. Like, he's just a good person, dude. You know, like yeah, I can't say enough

about the dude. He's not like a lot of people I've met that played in the NFL that long. Yeah, especially with the Raiders, too. He seems like he wasn't like that. Sometimes I imagine how, like, I know everybody was young, but it's like, some people are too good to be true. I'm like, this

motherfucker's too good to be true. You think he's got some skeletons? No. Do you think he was with Ray Lewis? No, I don't think so. No. No, I wouldn't want to get into an altercation. My dad was a really good boxer in college. Really? Yeah, he's got hands, dude.

So, like, and they're very heavy. You know, he's got the heaviest hands of all time. My brother. Kyle. Yeah, he's got some fucking, he just seems like a deal with heavy-ass hands. I'll tell you what, I don't know, incognito. He's got fucking heavy hands. Roger Stafford.

I got it at like minus 200, Kyle long. I don't know if I agree with that First off I think Richie might tell you He's not real excited about tussing with Kyle And their boys How big is Kyle? I remember seeing him at the KC game

Dude's fucking massive Bro he walks around at 3 30 dude A big fucking dude He has a butt He has like calves Like I sound like Mike Mayock right now Yeah You're scouting him out

I'm like always scouting my brother Yeah I'm like look at him Look at him And they're like Chris he's coming off of 3 9 cars I'm like But we get you know

6 6th then 333 That's bullshit. Oh, he's way more than that. 313, he... He's a thick boy. Yeah, he's got that good power metal piece. Yeah, yeah, he's built from the bottom, dude. He's supposed to come on the bus.

He's got to come on the bus. Oh, he'd be great on the bus. He's funny. He's got a good little following on Twitter, too. He's fun. He's going to be actually doing it with us now, so... Look at this handsome boy right there. Oh, he's joined the squad like he's greenland?

Look at that no beard-beard-looking-ass boy. Dog, I think he looks. That's a good look. That's a good look. tough guy look. Bro, tough guy look. You know, I'm looking tough because they're fucking playing me in the fourth in this, in week 17 with home field locked up. I'm out there

with the threes. Really? That's a tough fucking deal. I'm 30 I'm 33 years old. I got two shots of me. You want to look happy out there. Bro, real talk. Week 17, our Super Bowl year, bro, it's zero degrees at the link. We're playing the Cowboys. They're playing

Zik, they're playing winning, they're playing all their guys. Putting the studs. Yeah. And I I had to take some snaps. Really? Yeah, dude. How many snaps are like five to ten? No many. Oh, really?

You played. Half a half. Oh. Yeah, dude. You were bitter, weren't you? I was cold. Yeah. I put it that way.

I've never, it's amazing. Isn't that just like a crazy feeling that when you go and play an NFL game, if there's no thought of you not having to play the whole game, like there's never that thought. And so when you go play, it's like, okay, it balls out. You're not thinking like how many snaps I'm going to have to get. But boy, do you think about it in preseason? Oh, my God.

And preseason, it's the only, thing you think about. Like you go in like you're three, four days before the game and you're like, man, how much am I going to fucking play? I'm putting like, I'm putting like, I'm like chipping my coach's cell phones to find out like, what's the plan? Then you go to the assistant coach and you're like, hey, what's up? I'm not going to say nothing, just let me know.

Yeah. What's the polls? What's the polls? What are they upstairs? And they guard it like fucking like, you know, intelligent. Which is so weird. Because it's like, eventually, like someone like you who's got a level of maturity. Yeah. I would be able to think, okay, I can tell Chris. Hey, you're only playing a series.

I'm going to play serious. And I can tell you that two weeks from now, you're not going to like three days before I practice, like fuck around because you're not playing. You're going to take it serious. Chris is afraid that the undrafted guy is going to take his job. Right. So we can tell Chris.

I'm just saying young, talented dude. You were throwing jane? No, I wasn't. But the way you leaned in and smiled at me, you're just always smiling. No, yeah. I'm just, I'm like I'm thinking about. You're the opposite of my co-host.

It's crazy watching two high paranoid guys do a podcast. No. So, Macon, my co-host, he's not good at smiling. or laughing at your jokes, you, like, constantly give the energy and I'm like, what's the catch? You know? There was no catch, man.

You're like, y'all, I'm constantly thinking about the undraft guys taking my spot. No, but you are, dude. Are you really thinking of my head? Were you really thinking that? Like, are you really thinking that, dude? Fuck, yeah, I'm thinking that. That's the only way, like,

you know, not, I'm not, like, late my career, I was pretty good in my prime, but late in my career, I know what my, I know the deal. Like, you know, like, you really have to earn your keep. So, yeah, when you're out there and pre- season, bro. Like, you can't take it, you can't half step. They're trying to get you out the way. You're not as cheap as a young guys. That's true. Yeah. You'd be a tough vet to beat out too. Like if you're in undraved decay, you're thinking like you want the, like a

cockroach. You want the guys to be a little, have a little erringence, a little cockiness. Coaches coaching them up a little bit. They're not actually retaining it. Like, you're sitting there and be like, I kind of hope they don't remember. That's why I deleted myself. Like kind of get them. Yeah. That's why I deleted myself to get out before somebody could delete me. You know what I mean? Oh, that's the dream, dude. Just delete yourself, dude. Before it's too late. When you start, like, having a deal with the bullshit and you're like, you'll get there one day. Hopefully it's five, seven years.

I don't know how long you want to play. We'll see. How long you want to play? That's a good question. I don't know. Where the Titans are at right now and the trajectory of what could be, like, I'm like in it. I really like want to fucking play. I want to win a Super Bowl real bad.

I talked to Tannenhill on a FaceTime last week, by the way. Really? What was he doing? Finnegan. Oh, really? Portland at all? I've never met him, but I feel like that dude's always been like,

hey, Finnegan was here 15 minutes ago type of deal. I would like go to like 505, which is a apartment complex. They'd be like, oh, yeah, Finnegan just left. I would go to Martin's barbecue. Yeah.

And they were like, oh, Finnegan just left. Like, it's just crazy shit like that. Cortland Finnegan is. White's dude, got his ass beat by, um, I know, I remember. Yeah, but, you know, Andre Johnson.

To his credit, that's not the worst guy to get your assing. No, dude, he's a fucking beast. He's like, he's a bad out there. Yeah, it ain't like Tim Dwight kicked his ass here. No, yeah, yeah. So. Fucking Eve.

But anyway, you were saying he's a good dude? He might have hands. You were saying, Finnigan's good dude, Tannahill? Oh, Corlin's the best, dude. Corlin's the best, dude. I play with him in St. Louis. Some people hate court because they play against him because he's a shit talker. By the way, you never cop to me actually talking shit.

Yeah, I'll make it short and sweet. We were playing. It was a third game of the year. I believe you were on the team because it was 18. And it was either. It was either a overtime game. It was a terrible one. It was either.

Conklin, it was his first game back, he had a real tough year coming back from his ACL or was a backup. He's good. I like Conklin. Yeah, he's good. But that was like a real tough year from. I get him turned. What's that?

I got to get him turned. I get him turned. Yeah. But he's got that heat seeking missile of an outside hand that kind of gets right in your chest. It's very unorthodox. He's a very unorthodox. You watch him play and you're like, what's going on here? And by the way, we're not exactly teeing off on you guys because you guys can run the football.

Snacking it up. We're kind of getting that thing down, which is nice. Yeah. But I remember you beat them around the edge and, like, hit the quarterback one time. And I'm blocking your boy Barnett. And you kind of whisper in my ear, you go, I'm on his ass all day.

It wasn't like, it wasn't like you. And you just asked me be part of Waterboys that offseason. So we had like a, we were boys to each other. Yeah, it wasn't smack. It was more like. It wasn't like we're fucking boys boys. Like we're sitting on a podcast talking. I probably wanted to see if you were like,

like frustrated by him. Because then if you're frustrated by him, then the next play, I'm like, Taylor seemed frustrated. ready with you. Oh, I see. No, I don't. Playing chess out there. I love that. I don't play checkers with the shit talk. Like, I'm not that cool and good to be talking to shit. I love shit talking. It's my favorite thing. But, you know, you got to play a little bit of chess, you know? When I think, when I do conditioning in the off season, like when I go work out after we're done with this, like,

and I'm dying conditioning, my thought is, hey, your reward is you'll be able to talk shit all game. No question. That's your reward for doing the conditioning right now. It's not for being in the shape of football. Yeah. It's can I play football at a high level and be able to tell you how bad you are. Yeah, 100%. You do like, you're like a rassler. Uh, in what way? Like, you, you, you, you'd be good at promos.

Like, you do talk good shit. I do like to talk. Yes. Yeah. I'm more like a bro talk. Oh, hey. You're a homie talker. Yeah, I want your game to come down a little bit.

Like, I want to tell Earth, like, oh, bro, you're fucking crushing. That's exactly. I was about to say that, bro. I'm like, crushing it this year, bro. And so that way, he, in his mind, it would be, oh, comp has so much respect for me. maybe I can take a little bit off because he doesn't feel like he's going to guard me. See, that doesn't face me.

And I need your level to come down a little bit. I just, no, and yeah, it's also just like when you're nice to somebody, it says the tone that it's not what it is. Yeah. And like... Because Greg Olson, this is a great example. Greg Olson, he shit talked to me, call me like,

what are you a fucking third stringer? Because I spider man webbed him after breaking him a pass. I like fucking went... And he's like, what are you like to fucking... It's fucking awesome. Give me that one more time. Anytime a dude, like a coach, like somebody messed up in a mess up in a mess up in a

meeting or say something funny or pause or something like that or like that's a dumb question you'd like spray them across the room like give a little like on our team it was like an inside joke yeah so i did it to olson because i told the boys i would do it like hey do it if you make a play i'm like all right and so i did to also he's like who the fuck are you what are you like third string and i was like hey man i'll work for this spot kind of like smiling like just like that and the next time out he's he's like hey man my bad man you know i didn't i know you from this spot like i didn't mean that that's all me oh he was nice like that's all good bro dad's a homie great great Olson is a great dude. Also, I believe, one of the best of what he does already.

Really? You haven't heard him call a game. You haven't either. I mean, but I listen, I watch. Greg Olson's fucking good. In my opinion, yeah, but it's not like... Tony's not, I feel like fun. We're complaining. I'm also a fucking... I'm also a lineman. So Tony's thing is not exactly going to be like circling a guard or like talking about a kickout block. Like, I get so mad watching games because people just, their line play, terminate.

is so bad. And then you see it regurgitated by the fans, and it's, like, extra frustrating. I'm not saying Tony does this. But quarterbacks, wide receivers, they don't pay attention to us. Greg had to block six techniques. So Greg, like, knows the words. He knows everything. So I think he's very good, dude.

Six take no joke at Tide-end. Dude, yeah. No fucking joke. And they started that media company, him and Vince Vaughn. Oh, did he? Yeah. You didn't know that? No.

I fucking love Vince Vaugh. I fucking love Vince Vaughn. Um, yeah, it might be one of the shows on the, in that. But I love Greg, dude. I used to party on, and Greg's brother played at Virginia. So, um, we'd go down to Miami for spring break and, uh, I got to pay on Greg Olson's house. What? He's got to be in.

Bro, hey, what's with that? Yeah, maybe he's not that hydrated, huh? Man, the hydrated key was coming on. I think a high. Bro, you need more, you need more in space, bro. I got a big man. He can tell he's recently hydrated. He needs an extended fuel tank.

Honestly, you need something, dude. When you first, like, remember in high school when you would like start drinking water for real? Like, oh, I start getting hydrated. You'd piss like eight, nine, ten times a day. Well, then eventually, yes, you're actually hydrated. Yes. Willie's not hydrated. No, Willie's not.

I mean, honestly, the scariest thing in the world is when you binge drink and you think, like, after 36 hours, not only have I just been drinking alcohol, but do I remember a water? Dude, and after, like you low-key feel like you're cramping everywhere. Like, you can't make any sudden move. I was always, I've always been a cramper. You cramp? Oh, like nothing, dude. Have you ever had like a full body on the plane?

Yeah, I did, dude. Scariest thing ever. No, no, sorry. I had a body on the plane. Not on a plane. I had a dude, not, didn't happen to me, but I had a buddy who got a full body in the cold tub one time. Oh.

And he full bodied and then slowly was sinking into the water. And he couldn't get himself out of it. You watched the whole thing. No, no, no, no, no, he told me about this later. I was like, he just standing there. He's like, hey, good luck, buddy. He's like, He was a guard.

He was Patrick O'Meemey. He was at Michigan. And the trainers, like, came and grabbed him as he was going underwater. He couldn't. He would have died. Yeah, hell, dude. I mean, you like to think even in a full body cramp, he'd fucking, you know what I'm saying?

You can't. That just goes to show you how locked up to, like, you're Jack, he's Jack, Titanic. Yeah. And he can't get up. God. And fucking we had guys going to it on the plane where you're like, there's nowhere to go.

Like, dudes are in the aisle just like, I don't feel safe right now. I'm like, Air Marshall. Yeah. Like, nothing. Somebody, dude. Yeah, dude. That sucks for you.

I'm sorry about the full body cramps. That's all right. I used to get him quite a bit, actually. Oh, you really ran like that? Yeah, I was trying to... You don't want to miss anything. This is fun, dude. I'm about to have the worst phone in the world.

I know. Jack gave me the phone. I had to fucking... I don't want to go, though. Well, we'll do this again. We'll do this again. We're going to figure out what other shit to do. We got to come on a green light, dude.

Will and I are going to keep talking. Oh, you talk about. When he leaves? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm down. I'm here to a fucking, hey, you're 20 more, you're good. When are you, oh, before I go, the draft. Yeah.

Who are some studs you think are actual studs? More importantly, tell me about eight. There's some studs you think are actual studs. Actual studs. Because I heard this draft is not strong. I've been told that this draft's not strong. I don't know if it's because there's not many quarterbacks in it, but I heard it wasn't great, but I want to know about Aiden Hutchinson.

It's not, it's not an incredibly strong draft. No. I think the middle rounds from what it sounds. like are really, like, listen to guys that know. Middle rounds are good, and I'm not, I'll get to Aden. But I think the problem is, like, a ton of teams are just opting out of the first round. We just had less need on our pod.

And he was talking about his first round picks and shit, which he doesn't have, like guys playing golf all this week. I think the lowest amount of first round picks in the first round, first round picks in the first round, since the 80s is this year. So, like, people are not investing in the first round. And I don't know if, it's because of this draft, to your point. I think the edge guys, it's hard for me to figure out who's the guy.

Honestly, I really like Aiden. I had him on my pod. I love the fucking guy. He gets the Chris Long comps, which I think, like, I hate when guys get those cops. Why is that? Well, because it's kind of a backhanded comp because, like, you know, I didn't do, like, 120.

I did 70, you know, which is fine. Like, it's a great career. But when you're picked in the top five, like, what they're saying is you're a high floor guy. Right. So I don't love that that every white guy gets compared to me. Like, you know, give him a Nick Bosa every now and again. That would be fun for that kid.

But I think Aiden's somewhere in between. I think that the comps for him have been really irresponsible. I think the best comp for Aiden is like Patrick Kearney, who I don't know if you remember Patrick Kearney, the 80-something sat guy in the NFL, which to me is like pretty amazing. Like, that's a 1% career. That guy is tall.

You know, he's maybe not got the longest arms. I think that's the one thing I worry about with Aiden is like he doesn't have that long arms and you know he's taller. So when you play taller guys you've got to assume to make up for the lack of leverage they have length. So the thing he makes up for it with is really good technique. He seems like he's got a good technique.

Yeah, and then the kid in Oregon, he didn't even know how to put his hands on guys yet. I'm not saying he's not a worker, he's not a technician, but if he gets with the right coach, I think his upside's crazy. So you think Tibado's got a higher ceiling? Yeah, and it's not a slight. Again, we're cutting hairs here. And part of it's like, when I hear somebody compared to me, I'm like,

Like, well, I don't know if I'd take me in the top five. You know what I mean? Like, I'd probably take me at 12 or 15. So, like, I think, I think Aden's got a shot to prove out a top five career. But I do think Kavon is exciting. I think the kid from Florida State is really exciting too. But then again, it's hard. Like, these guys have hard jobs.

I watched the Florida State kid played Notre Dame, and he had a bunch of tackles and TFLs and sacks. But you know this. That doesn't mean you played a great game. Right. That doesn't mean you won a bunch of rushes. but then he beats a lot of other teams so it's really hard to call it this year with the edge guys

I think I don't know who the stud is you know what I mean First overall pick who you picking though I think they're gonna go with the Walker kid from Georgia I really do really I do Wow because I think Trent likes him I think Trent Balkey likes him And I think he's

into like you know guys with great measurables And this kid not only plays really hard But he's got great measurables The one thing I worry about with Trayvon Walker He's, you know, he'll kind of get back there And I wasn't a great finisher at times. Like, if I could tackle, who knows here? Right.

Who knows here? Right. Trayvon Walker misses a lot of sacks. He also doesn't have a ton of production. And part of that's the Georgia defense. But you talk about like a long-arm guy who can fucking make all those garbage sideline-to-sideline tackles who can run people down, who can be disruptive, you can rush them inside.

It's really a fit class. Like, it's all about the fit. who's your what do you need on your team right yeah and that's why i like uh aiden to jacksonville if they did it from a fit standpoint is they have josh allen who's a different kind of player you know what do you mean by that he's just different like he he's a little bit more springing he's a little bit more explosive i think honestly i think josh allen was underrated coming out um six overall pick yeah no but he was underrated by people because he played in kentucky um so i think when you look at those two body types and you look at like the athleticism

and this isn't like a white guy shot at Aiden Hutchison, they're just different. You know, like, Hutch isn't like a 10-yard split guy. And that's not a... He's going to have to run the combine. 4-5, 4-6? 10-yard split. We're talking about 10-yard.

Oh, I bet it's 1-6-2. I think it is 1-6-2. Which to me is not like, holy shit. Like, when I watch Aiden Hutchinson play, he's not like just burning the corner. And that's not a slight. No, he's different, different body types. Like, JJ Watt is a Hall of Fame player.

He is not burning the corner on anybody. But what JJ Watt was really good at was the top of the rush. I don't know if you've noticed that, but, like, you know, it's all the sacks that we would miss. We'd win with our hands and get washed. But he has length and, like, really good, like, ankle flexion and body control. Until he heard his back, dude, he could still kind of, it wasn't like he was just running by guys,

but there's only, like, a couple guys in league who run by guys. Yeah. Yeah. Not his JJ Watt fan. Well, I never had to play again. against him. Yeah, I know, I have, I mean, I haven't played against him very much, and I played against him for six years, twice a year.

Yeah. The only problem is, he checks people. He goes down the line, who's having a tough day? No question. And he just, I got, my rookie year, my rookie year, he tried me for like 25 snaps in a row, and your boy. You held your own. Hey, I did.

In my head, I'm like, yo, you're Loki looking down, JJ Watt right now. And my, like, rookie year, and then he left. Yeah. And, like, since then he's kind of been done. I probably had, like, in the last seven years. years after that, 30 more snaps against him, 40 more snaps? Like, he's always... He hasn't been the same since he played you.

I ruined him. And honestly, Kyle had the same kind of game. Kyle had the, Taylor, Kyle had the same kind of game against Indomicon Sue. Where, like, as a young player, a guard in Chicago that kind of got drafted to, like, block this guy. Yeah. He was, like, you know, he's one of the scariest guys. He's not only good, but he's also scary, right? He's scary, dude.

And I really enjoyed meeting him the times I've been around Sue. I'm like, bro, what a gentleman. You hate him, okay. Hate Sue? A lot of hate him. No, I don't hate Sue. He is a gentleman. But the motherfucker, he's smart, too.

He's got Warren Buffett on like his board. I love that he's so smart and so like, when I was around him, I was like, this guy could do a book club with this guy. Right, right, right, right. But in the field, like he's going to beat me to death with a book. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. He's a different cat on the-

Kyle had the same type of thing where it's like, this is a big confidence boost for me. saw this guy so all right tell you bro i know i'm super i'm heartbroken about it yeah i'm called that shit huh you want to know what i was who were you a one-five two i think so just going to show you i was one six four were you really they'd always show your clip see you ball all right buddy it was great seeing you too dude yeah i put out the draft and then um let's kick it sometime when we don't have to do this shout out georgia boot no free shout-outs to the boys georgia boot makes super good looking and super comfortable boots so comfortable you never want to take these boys off.

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like I said back, but I'd love to talk about podcasting, bro. Let's talk about it, bro. This is the meeting of the mind. How do you feel about it? Because I was listening to you earlier and it's like the same transitions. I'm sitting there like, you're actually working with people who use email and organizing and a way more structured and you hire people that understand that game.

I don't feel like we do as much going into it. That's something like we've learned. I think the problem is like these guys will probably tell you we're so like built on trust. Like when you're on a team, you got to like, so I think the hardest part is like building trust among each other that, you know, we know first like what the protocols are

like kind of how we get content out, like how things get done. And then like actually like can we all, handle our responsibilities and I got some hard working guys that answer the bell every day so like I trust them yeah but at the same time like I have I have like a way I like things done and and I'm also learning to do all the little things that you didn't imagine doing as a podcast so if you like everything done the way you like it done you also have to try to get into those spaces and learn those skills I think that's really fucking hard dude yeah and if not you got to understand yeah what the people who are

actually doing exactly and the good is like you said, like you trust your guys, I trust my guys. You know, like, so you know, like you work towards a place where you don't have to do as much. I think when you're getting something off the ground, if you want it done the way you want it done, like you have to do it. Yeah. So I see you doing a lot of things, you know, on your own.

And I think that's what's really cool about you is like you not only podcast well, but you also run a like kind of an operation well. Like, you know what I mean? Taylor's plan sometimes. Like you're fucking and you got to handle a lot of shits. And that's the hardest part. It's not the fucking this. Dude, isn't that crazy?

I feel like a lot of, like, that's what's not really understood. Yeah. Like, even as podcasters are going into it, like, I don't feel like we, like, I know for me, I didn't think it took, like, all this kind of work. So I'm reading books and shit and, like, leadership. Well, you sent me one of the books. How is it? I haven't ordered it yet.

I was going to say, I don't remember sending it to you. Well, no, you said. I recommended it to. Yeah, well, you might have been high. So I got another one. I got another one for you. Okay. I'll send it to you, though.

But chances are I should get through the first one because I'm not a big book reader, but when I did see the title, I was like, traction. Traction. I was like, that's cool. You told me it kind of taught you how to, like, be a leader. Right. And it helps with systems.

And that's the thing, dude. You're a leader. You were a leader in the NFL. Like, special teams guy, but you're a fucking leader. Like, what was Matt's- Whoa, hang on special teams guys. Later in my career, special teams guy. Like, you were a captain as, you know, like,

people in Tennessee, like, you weren't playing every down. in Tennessee. But like people from every corner of the locker room gravitated towards you because you have like a little bit of it dude like you got charisma and shit and like you're fucking real guy. But that doesn't translate necessarily to like the business world. It does in a way that like

you know how to work and be a teammate but leadership doesn't necessarily translate to the business where you have to learn how to like we have a funny joke where Matt who's here like we had this big meeting. It's not that big. It's just a meeting. Right. And I we had a podcast the next day

and we did this airing of grievances which is fun like you guys should try that sometimes if you guys are like you're mad at each other for shit you just turn the mics on and talk about it and Matt was like I have one and I was like what is it he's like in the meeting yesterday you called us all motherfuckers and I was like holy shit I did

that's an air of grievance well hold on a second no I know and I and I you're motherfuckers Okay. I said to do it this way. Hold on. So the funniest shit is I go,

God damn, that was, I was like, I don't remember that. And I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings or whatever, but like, what was the context? And he was like, well,

you said you guys are some hardworking motherfuckers. I'm like, that's a fucking compliment. Where I come from, if I call you a hardworking motherfucker fucker, or if I call you a motherfucker, like that guy's a motherfucker. Dude, you're a motherfucker, bro.

Hey, have you blocked that kid from fucking Iowa? He's a motherfucker. Yeah. Like that, that kind of thing. And it's just like, I know we can talk like that. And we were kind of joking.

But it is tough. Like you got to adjust your like cadence and kind of like how organized you are. And like you can be a leader on the football field without having real world leadership skills. Right, right, right. And keeping like, I think for me, like you'd want things done a certain way. And then it like if it wasn't, you more so have to go. Like I felt for me I had to go like more internal. Like why am I getting so upset about this?

If I want it done a certain way, maybe I need to communicate better. Like your EQ, I feel like has to go up. No question. Being in the seed of like doing operative stuff. We're bad textors. I don't know if you're a bad texter, but like... I think I'm a... Solid.

D-line group... Okay, I was trying to say like, I didn't want you to be like, well, that's not that fucking weird, but I'm a terrible texter. I spent years in D-line group texts. Like, we just texting shorthand. Yeah. Like, we just don't communicate fully with, like, what we're trying to say. Right.

And, like, for, like, two years, these guys are reading terrible, you know, edit notes and, like, texts and, you know, like, maybe even emails sometimes. Yeah. And I'm just not doing a good job at it. I'm not making myself clear enough. I know. But they also have to say, Chris, you suck at that. For sure.

There's definitely, like, both sides can learn how to be better at it. And that's the dynamic of they're not criticizing me. Maybe sometimes it's because, you know, I'm big scary football player. And I'm not leading the right way because I'm big scary football players. Right. Because when you text it's kind of like, whether it's shallow, short or whatever, like, everyone reads it from their own, like, lens. Right. You texting me, like, hey, man, I can't wait to see you tomorrow.

Like, it's going to be great. And you're like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But that will get me, too. I just mean being unclear as fuck. Like, yeah, that's like trying to read your wife's text message back to you when you're on like a trip or something. Yeah. You know, like that's that kind of third eye.

I feel you. But me, I just don't communicate well. I'm just not clear sometimes. And you have to be. You have to stop and ask clearly what you want done. Right, right, right. Are you having fun with it? Sometimes no.

I mean, but sometimes, hell yeah. Like most days, fuck yeah. But, like, honestly, I don't know if you ever feel a little burnout, like, fucking having to talk every day. I think when we felt burnt out was more of, like, probably these last couple months, like, doing the whole Bustin Spring tour. Just because we're around each other a lot, you're running pods. Like, last week we did a pod, like, every day.

I was that. So by the end of it, with the new baby, I fact, that played into it a lot. but you're just kind of like worn down from having to talk so much. Because you only have so many like things to say and jokes through with that week. I don't know.

I don't know how you're, you got to be running on fumes, man. So much respect getting all this stuff done. But like, yeah, it's hard. And I think the hardest part is like when you got to talk every day, you're not impressed with your own bullshit. So you've got to like actually believe your own bullshit,

which is not bullshit. I'm not saying it's not true. I see what you're saying. I'm saying like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm imagining being in the chair listening to me after the third day in a row I'm talking. I'm like, this isn't interesting. Right. But it is to people.

Right. And it's a different audience. Everything like we're always just in front of these guys. Right. Sometimes they might like they've been grinding the last few weeks. Like class could get lower or like laughs that we might think we're getting a laugh on. It's like, oh shit, was that even entertaining? Like can we cut that out?

Yeah. And you've got to over-extend yourself sometimes. Yeah. To like try to be entertaining on a day that you're not. Like there's nothing to talk about. To make Garrett laugh. You got to be a little more. you'll glance at Gary in bail okay that was a decent

dude laughs see Jack you always got Jack in the back that's when you know you're like you're clinging on some cylinders because Jack will give you some love man Jack will give you love yeah JP you get praise so you'll look at JP and he'll just have like a smirk on his face

the hard you always do the hard part is like you know I think the the hardest part is like we're cool easy going guys I don't think you're an ego guy I'm not an ego guy so the hardest part is liking your bullshit like you know like the sound of your voice

voice like what you're talking about like like i don't think our podcast i don't think it's cool like but people think it's cool you know like i don't know if you ever feel that way i think our shit rip it does rip i like honestly and honestly if i if i really step back and took a week off and listen to our shit i'd be like this is fucking awesome but you know it's it's hard to be like yeah i like my shit you know what i mean like hearing yourself and you know like do i like watching like it's weird that people like this or whatever yeah dude it's fucking like you're like But I think it's, I just think it rips from the whole perspective thought of it. Like, you know, we're running a pie.

Like, we're on a fucking bus right now. Yeah, it is cool. But then there's the whole, what do you do for a living thing? What? Like, what do you do for a living? Oh, I got a podcast. I'm a podcaster. I think, they're like, okay, I just met five other white dads.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then the only way to impress people with your podcast is to flex sort of them and be like it's monetized, you know? Or, and I see what you're saying because I get this, it's like, I feel the same weird anxieties of like, no, I got a true. Now they want to know about it. I got to kind of talk it up since they don't know about it at all.

Yeah. And now I think I want to play into the whole white dad podcasting, like make up some title, like just throw out some bullshit about what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And make them think, like, whatever they're thinking. That's not bullshit. Some people could use some self-help. And however they're thinking, allow them to double down on their initial thoughts.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I can go and be like, yeah, I just had fun in this moment. So I can fuck off. Right. Yeah. But another thing is, like, Like, you know, it's just everybody has access. So it's a really competitive space.

Yeah, that is true. And, like, how much your life do you show? Like, I know I show a lot of myself. You know what I mean? One thing. Like, people struggle. Like, I know people have all different opinions on all of that stuff. So I feel like that is a thought too.

Like, Dan, who's like very private, Big Cat. Oh, yeah. I was going to say he tweets. Like, he's talking all day long. But he doesn't give you a lot. Unless you got that green star up on Instagram. The green star. What does that mean?

You're in the friends. Oh, the close friends. The close friends. You're not in the close friends? Yeah. You are. Okay, good. I've seen his kid.

I'll sit there and be like, oh, I know I'm seeing something pregnant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? He's to be. Like, well, I'm honored to be in this. The thing about Dan and PFT is I was like the first guest on that podcast, which doesn't mean I'm like anything special. I'm just saying.

But it's pretty sick. They knew it was the easiest phone call. Like, this guy will help us. Hell yeah. But I've seen like that whole thing go down and, and they've been like so fucking famous, they're famous, bro. Oh, yeah. They're famous people.

Like, you know, he would never want to admit that, but that's a famous person. He's a famous person, yes. Both famous. Like, people, like, that's his shtick. Podcasts on a sunglasses or sunglasses on a podcast. Podcasts on a sunglasses. Big Cat has, like, bits that everybody knows. Like, it's hard to stay, like, private and be like, you know, have any kind of life.

Like, if we want to be successful at this, like, what does our success look like? What's this? What's success look like for you here? in this bus. In the bus? Like I'm talking about like in five years. That's a good question. You need to read a book about planning your successes.

No, no, no. I'm just thinking like you sit there, don't you feel like you surprised yourself sometimes about where we're at in the podcasting world? Yeah, but it's like there's a part, there's a cynical part of me that believes like, you know, we can make something dope. Like I truly felt like we could have these kinds of conversations

and people would fuck with it, especially if I'm doing it while I'm playing and kind of take people on the journey with me as like the hardworking. The NFL's hard. The working man's NFL player. Yeah. That whole stick, right?

Yeah, yeah. And so there's a part that's like, yeah, it'll be sick one day, but the fact that like we're here and actually doing all this stuff and we're doing a live show when we did a bus and spring tour. Did stand up?

Yeah, and people are like fucking with our little like one-liners or bits. I'm having fun on the internet. It's just kind of like surreal. Like, damn, this is pretty sick. It's really cool. But you've also become famous. You've also become famous during a pandemic now.

So like, you've been, out in the world, but like, I don't know how closed it was probably not that closed here. There was like a two-year period. I mean, it was closed for, you know, we had the phase one, two, and three shit. And then once I got to like the two, it was going from two to three.

And then once you kind of had to go back a couple spaces in Nashville, that started to piss people off probably. I just don't know, like, if five years down the road, like, if success is becoming more popular as a podcast, I'm not crazy about the video component.

Not for you, because I think it's awesome. I get why people love watching video. I fucking love watching. videos of this show. I love watching videos of podcasts I like. Like, the funniest shit is seeing people's facial expressions and all that shit. But I kind of don't like where it's going where now I have to be

like a internet TV guy. I see what you're saying. That's the part of podcasting that I don't love. If I was just going to do this and talk to you and like people were listening in their cars, like, you know, how famous could you get? You don't know what you look like, that sort of thing. I just think

and that's another thing is like Instagram. It's like, you've got to use your Instagram. You got to use your Twitter. Like, you just can't be normal. If you want to be successful at this, you can't be normal. You can't live a normal life anymore. It's not like podcasting five years ago. Right.

But to that, you build up a platform and audience enough. Like you won't have to continue to do it all the time. Like Big Cat and them, like, they enjoy it. Like, that's Barso. That's the world. Yeah. So I feel like if we were down the road and the podcast continues to get more successful in like five years. Across that bridge.

Yeah, I feel like you could actually look at it for, all the work you've put into and, you know, you're kind of falling back or going into the abyss, but you can calm down because you have such a big enough audience. Like, Big Cat and them, they don't have to continue to do all that stuff. Right. You know what I mean? I think he, he just loves doing it. He loves the internet.

He loves being a degenerate gambler and speaking with all the fans about it. Also, there's... Like Tim Ferriss. He's a great example, or he's a good example. Tim Ferriss. The comedian Tim Ferriss? No, Tim Ferriss, the podcast. The Tim Ferrars, four-hour work week, four-hour body.

awesome and I'm just not very online. Yeah, but Tim is somebody who has like an extremely successful podcast, but he doesn't tweet and do all that stuff. Joe Rogan doesn't tweet and do all that. Simmons doesn't tweet. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. That's what I like to get to, but you know, you make more money on these deals. If you can say this is my, you know, like on the front end of you trying to be somebody,

you have to have the impressions because that's the language people are speaking now. You sign a deal. It's like, how many impressions are you getting? But how many different deals do you need to get? You don't need to, but if you want your audio thing to become successful, successful, you need the backing. Like, if I want good guess, that sort of thing. Like, you know how it is.

It's hard. It helps to have somebody that fucks with you that has connections and shit. So it's better to accelerate that if you can. And I get that side of it. Like me, I feel like, like, if I could explain the stage that I feel like we're in right now, like, to me, I'm in like, I'm in, like, I'm in, like, college. Yeah. Like, you're, like, you know, like, you got a shot to be in the NFL, but you got to work your dick off to try and, like, get to that NFL, like, level about it. Right.

So, like, all the monotony of, like, having fun on social and the Internet and the conversations and all the relationship building. Like, I feel like I'm in that college football mode. I just got burnout. I got burnout last fall. I get burnout in the fall. And, like, it takes a hiatus from Twitter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I got burnout in general.

We were doing three shows a week, and I'm doing Amazon. And I know, like, NFL media people are like, who the fuck here? But, like, we produced the show. Like, I booked my own guests. You know, I do a lot of our own shit. along with this awesome team, but like we're in there grinding. Like, Reid, one of our producers, I think one, I stopped paying attention one fall. He's working like 70 hours a week.

Like, like, we're grinding, like, because we're trying to keep up with the, you know, the daily shit. Right. Which is a little bit of a life handcuff. So I can get burnout doing that. And some NFL media people are like, that's the deal you made. Like, we all made this deal. But sometimes I'm just not crazy about the, like, everyday part of it. But you're running the whole operation versus those guys.

We're kind of like, yeah, they're being the talent they're showing up. They kind of understand where they are. That's what they went to school for. I mean, obviously not all of them, but that's been their passion for. I pay myself. It's a nice, yeah. It's a good little. Do you want to get into, like, more of a daily show thing?

No. You talk about being burnt out of. Maybe a little bit more. Maybe a little bit more, like, maybe a little bit more with less work. You know what I mean? Like, if somebody came to us and was like, let's, let's have you guys do a YouTube show. Like, McAfee's got a nice, Maccifee's done a really good job of, like, a template for what a lot of people can be.

Right. Which I think why a lot of media. It's a daily show. No, I know. But that's what I'm saying. Like, he's found a way to do that in a very easy, effortless way. Not that that takes a lot of hard, doesn't take a lot of hard work, but that guy also does a lot of other shit too. Oh, he does the most.

Right. So he's just, he leaves no tread on the tires, bro, which is the way to live life. But I do think, you know, like the show, if you can get it to a place where it was, I got a bunch of my buddies in the room. We have guests lined up for Tuesdays and Thursdays. Like, we do. Or Monday, Wednesday, Wednesdays. Friday. It's a 30-minute YouTube show or something. You don't have to go three hours. I would do something like that. Yeah. It's just a lot of work, dude, you know? After the season, we do shows on

Sunday night. I know Big Cat and them do that that way, but like the games wrap up. We finish with our work at like 3 a.m. 4 in the morning. I don't sleep till 4 in the morning on Sunday nights. So I'm fucked up all week, like just tired, dude. You know, it's like weird. You barely see your kids for a couple days. I'm like, to do what? To make less money than I made playing football? Right. Still making really good money. I didn't think it would be good. I didn't think it'd be bad, but it's a grind, dude. Yeah, you probably identify a little bit of this stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I think it is, it is insane that you guys are able to do that, like, stay up till the we are as a night to do all the football stuff. Everybody does. Like, part of my take-o sit there. All the writers do. I know,

but I'm like, I don't want to, I didn't, you know, inside it. You get to come out from a different angle. Like, you got, you got a nice long career in the NFL. You got paid a couple of times. I I feel like that kind of plays away. Like, I don't have to be fucking, why am I beating myself down like this? Because ultimately the good moments, just like the NFL, just like the NFL, because some days you're like, why are we doing this? But, like, you do it for the fun moments, like, the really good laughs, like, dudes just like the locker room atmosphere of like, you guys, it's so fucking, the cool part is hanging out.

I think that's the coolest part. I think it's like the coolest part is having a little locker room that you come into every day where you have a really abnormal job. Like, and that's the best part. Like, knowing you have a destination, we're all grind. and towards something. And the little moments, a great guest,

a really funny bit, something that makes you laugh every time you guys hear about it. Like, that's what keeps you going. So I'm not saying, I'm not going to do it. I'm just, I'm complaining like we would in the locker room.

Right, about our coaches and about practice. That's what I was telling them earlier. We were talking about, like, dad life and stuff like that. And Taylor said something. I was like, oh, I mean, dude,

I do love it. I just also love bitching. Like, I love complaining. In our DNA, dude. It's funny. Like, you said there, like, you want to come in and have, like,

these shittiest stories just so you can make some of the guys laugh at the table. No question. Like, well, how was it last night? It's like, oh, she fucking sucked, dude. Like, I actually thought about leaving her last night. Like, for real. You are that guy, too. Right, yeah.

Like, I would come, I would come make sure I was sitting next to you in the mornings to cheer me up. We would have a great time. I was in a really bad, I was known to be in a bad mood. Yeah. So, like, I would have come sat with you to try to cheer me up. Oh, bro, we would have a great time. I'm talking, we'd be seeming it at breakfast. Let's come back together.

You're cut. Yeah, you're cut. Oh, dude, that would be awesome. Mask on, too. I can't think of what year it is. Year 10. I don't know. When you take five years off, would it be year 17 or something?

Fuck it, dude. Yeah, year 17. Yeah, let's do it, dude. We'll do it. Package deal. Oh, that could be good. Who would we play for? If you could wave a one and play for any team, who would you play for?

If I could wave a one and play for any team. Yeah, and like, hey, like listen, this is. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you got to go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Give me one answer and let's roll because I probably got to go too much. Like a wave of one, it would be, it'd probably be the Packers. The Packers. Yeah. Here's why, because you got in Appleton.

No, the reason is a lot of my coaches that I've played for over the years are all there. So when I was in Washington, my lineberger coach, Kirk Olive Dottie. He is now, he's the guy who got me, took a chance on me, who brought me in his room, like, hey, I made the switch. Like, you've got to fucking make me right. Yeah. Type of thing. And you feel at home. Yeah.

Yeah. So I would be in his room. Okay. The de-coordinator there, Joe Barry. He was our de-coordinator in Washington. Awesome dude. I love Joe Barry. He had a beer with him in Manhattan Beach.

Awesome fucking guy. But he's the de-coordinator there. Matt Lafleur, he was the O.C. He was at Washington when I was at Washington. And he was the O.C. At Tennessee, we were both in Tennessee together. Right, right. And when we played Washington, I was, like, sitting in the offensive room with him.

He's like, come in my room and help me game plan. It's like six degrees of separation. Yes. He's the head coach. and now Rich Besacha, who's the special teams and head coach guy at Vegas, he's now the special teams guy at Green Bay. He's up there.

She's at Green Bay. They were just texting me fucking, like, busting my balls about fatherhood, and I'm sending him photos of my little girl yesterday. But if I could wave a wand, it would be fucking Green Bay. Clip that. Clip that.

Because you get him going? Yeah, well, I like it when people, when I'm on my pod and I don't have to ask questions. So I'm just kind of like. Yeah, I don't feel like Taylor don't really take a whole lot. He won't take a whole lot of interest in the... He won't take a whole lot of interest. Bro, you met him.

He's dry as a motherfucker. Oh, bro, he's funny, man. I thought you were going to bring him. No, Dr. Fax. So, I want to shout out Dr. Fax. Dr. Fax will be with me in Vegas. We'll be doing the Coors Light Live Watches. Follow Dr. Fax.

What's your TikTok for people? Will you leave this in? Deal Reels. Deal Reels on TikTok. He's a thrifter. You can check his eBay out, too, but I know you're running out of time. check his email out too. So you got to get on TikTok too.

Like I made a TikTok. Oh, yeah. Just to recycle my Instagram videos. Be like, fuck. I'm being telling him. That's the move. Yeah, bro. But he's,

I love Chris because he's a fucking grinder. But I can see, I can sense the first round and first rounderness in it. I'm just like, man, no. Like I'll try until you'll try like Taylor who gets super excited. Like when we're doing well,

you're just good at, you're good at, you're good at being an entertainer. Like, and I mean, that's a compliment. Like, you got to be, you got to want to entertain people. I want to entertain people,

but I'm nervous about just trying to be funny all the time. You know, like, it's like... But all the time. But all the time. This is funny that I'm not being funny right here. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just being dry and mad or I'm just bitching. I don't want to just be on TikTok.

Like, you know, like, I don't know, what do you do there? You just take your videos and just put them on there. Like, I probably have three minutes. Is that what people are doing on TikTok to go viral? Hey, but subscribe, Chris Long, he's a fucking step. Green Light, Green Light, Five. Go subscribe to his podcast. Green Light.

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