Bussin' With The Boys - Christian McCaffrey On Not Breaking TD Record + Steve-O On Why Jackass Was As Successful As It Was

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Recorded: November 13th 2023 | We have a packed episode for you today boys, we start off with Christian McCaffrey joining us at the beginning of the pod to talk about their game in Jacksonville. He was unfortunately not able to break the record for consecutive games with a touchdown so the boys definitely made a point to bring that up. The 49ers also just came off their bye so the boys asked Christian what he did with his time off. They also get into how important taking time off is during the season to avoid the possibility of burnout during the season. Christian gets into how he is an avid Fortnite player and says how he is the longest tenured Fortnite player in the league. The Tier Talk they get into is the epitome of just a locker room conversation. Following the CMC the interview, the boys hit their good, bad and the ugly of the football week that was. Then Taylor is joined by Jackass legend, and one of the most recognizable voices you will ever hear, Steve-O. Taylor immediately gets into how massive of a fan he is of not only Steve-O but Jackass as a whole. Steve-O gets into the start of Jackass and the way he ended up getting into it all. He says how after the first season of Jackass, he hadn't met any of the other cast members until the filming for the second season. Then Steve-O gets into his process of getting sober and what it was like when all of his friends had an intervention for him. Taylor then brings up the topic of Bam Margera and it is obvious that the topic of Bam hits home for Steve-O as he has done so much for him to try and help, but nothing has seemed to work. This interview really gives you a behind the scenes look at what the beginning of Jackass was like, the business behind it all, what is was like adding new members to the crew and how quickly it became a household name. If you were a fan of Jackass as a kid, you are going to love this interview, enjoy. 0:00 Intro 3:50 CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY INTERVIEW STARTS 4:55 How pissed was he after not getting the record 8:40 CMC will not have any of this Brock Purdy slander 12:48 How big was the bye week and his opinion on the best time to have it 16:00 How important it is to get away from the facility 19:43 Urgency level in the building after losing 3 straight 20:45 Chase Young 22:06 CMC's guilty pleasure 26:47 Ice cream talk 42:24 Twisted question 44:05 College football recap 52:17 College football playoff scenario 57:09 Direct take 1:01:50 NFL recap 1:08:45 the good, the bad, the ugly 1:29:25 STEVE-O INTERVIEW STARTS 1:30:40 Taylor is a massive Steve-o and Knoxville fan 1:33:00 How long does he want to do gnarly stuff 1:38:17 What was his process in pivoting to podcasting/youtubing 1:52:19 It’s never too late when it comes to addiction 1:54:29 Does life get boring when you become sober 2:02:36 How did he recognize being so humiliated while being so loaded 2:12:58 Was he scared to do Jackass 3 after getting sober 2:20:33 Scariest stunt he did in Jackass 3 2:27:18 How does he feel about the new Jackass members 2:32:20 Did he miss Bam in the new movies 2:45:57 Where would Jackass be if it weren’t for Knoxville 2:48:07 Tier Talk 2:56:32 The way the first Jackass movie was made 3:02:55 Jackass the TV show 3:17:15 Tony Hawk is the manFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every single day. Just getting better and better for you people. And I like to think that we've grown a lot too. We have a great show for you today. A lot of chaos. A lot of chaos in the college football landscape. And there's one team at the forefront of all that, especially as we get into the late part of the season.

Are we looking at the college football playoff? What's going to happen there? Also, Texas A&M, Jimbo Fisher, secured the bag. Drop the ball. Decided to get the fuck out of it. Believe that. Decided to get the heck out of there. And also the NFL season, week 10 of the NFL season was incredible.

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If we're open on this spot, listen, that was a quick little intro for you guys. We are going to. Oh, and also, also, uh, stevo. Steveo interview. Oh, yeah, Steve. We get to release to Steveo interview. A hero of mine. But another hero of this bus and to a lot of people down in San Francisco, we have the legendary,

the almighty, a record setting, record holding. individual Christian McCaffrey on the show today. Let's get right into it. Wait, he didn't set a record. I thought he set the record and then he, and then the record's done now. No, no, he didn't set the record. He let the entire country down, all of white culture riding on his shoulders. And let's get this record. Let's get in the record books. Not only did he let the record books down, but he also let the bust with the boys. Okay. So with that being said, let's get into the dude wife's shittiest moment of the week for Christian McCaffrey. Christian, I thought you handled your press conference. incredible, brother. Everybody scored but me. I suck a very good rabbit from eight-mile situation,

brother, but there got to be some pain in there. And obviously, dude wipes, which is the segment, because this is the shitty moment, go and use those things. Do you use dude wipes? I will now. Yeah, you absolutely should. You absolutely should. You seem like a healthy individual that white little wet stuff is good for you. Yeah, the only hassle would be just carrying them to the stall. Yeah. Like having to actually take them there, but worth it, I'd say. Yeah, they're coming out with ones that just attached to your skin. So you have like a whole pack just waiting on your side at all times.

They're working that through right now. But let's talk about yesterday's game. Dominant performance by the 49ers. Everyone is literally saying, here we go. Christian McCaffrey again, first drive, probably going to get a touchdown. And it ends up not happening for you. At what point did you start to worry? Yeah, one to ten, how pissed off were you after that ass open in the locker room

that you didn't want to talk to anybody because you did not get the record. Hey, congrats, congratulations. May, don't fucking talk to me. Yeah, yeah, walk us through. I tied the record. So technically, you know, it's not like I'm two. Yeah, you're tied for one. Yeah, you know how that is, though.

You want that standalone name. Like, I'm sure leading up to the week. I'm sure leading up to go ahead. Yeah, I mean, it's funny because honestly, I thought I was going to be more upset than I was. But I think when you win like that and it was good to kind of get the run game going again against a good run defense too that had the stats to prove it. So I was I was pretty excited after the game. I thought I was going to be way more like pissed off than I was, but I really wasn't that mad at all other than letting Will down. Yeah, because you did. You had a, you had a hell

of a performance. I know like you guys had a drop three. We'll get to that in a minute. So it was a big bounce back week for the boys getting healthy in the biweek and everything else. So and on top of that, I'm sure there was some creativity of, you know, hey, let's get C.M. see in the end zone like let's get the record but you're not going to put that above like obviously whooping a team's asses. Right. It doesn't happen. Um, but, uh, yeah, there's probably a little bit of that. damn. Because there was one where you guys were in the red zone, right? And you caught a screen. was it a screen? You caught something. I was like, okay, let's get busy. Let's get in there. And you, and you almost broke one. Maybe it was just a simple running play, but you almost got out

and got tripped. I was like, damn it. That was going to be it, dude. That's what hurts is that. what hurts is that there was a couple plays that you just wanted back that it was like damn if I had just done this that was the play and it wasn't that you know the last drive where they were trying to feed me um and try to by the way that's pretty pretty cool that you know you're in a game like that and your coaches are trying to get you that like I don't know I that that goes a long way for me so I'm I appreciated that um but it was in like the second quarter and first quarter where you're like, God, dude, if I just didn't do this, that was it. We could have got it out of the way, really. And I didn't. When you look back on the tape,

that's, that's what hurts. It'd be one thing if there was like, yeah, there just really wasn't a lot of opportunities, but there was, and I think that's what stings. Especially getting Trent Williams back and being like, okay, yo, we were really moving at full force now. I got the big dog at left tackle now. What did Shanahan say to you after the game? Because there was like a, boys, we did it. We got the monkey off our back. We won after losing three. Let's go. Have a day, boys. Have a day. And there had to be like a calming. You just get it out of the shower. You probably got the towel on. You're looking at your stuff. Probably having a moment of being like, damn. And I'm sure Shannon comes up to you. What does he say to you?

And actually, like, when he addressed the team, it was funny because he called Juice out. He, you know, juice had caught that touchdown. Um, we ran like a keeper and Juice has, you know, I think he's, he's the second to last read. And no one covered him. And, and he's, and he's, And Brock threw a dot, like a 35-yard touchdown pass to him. And he caught it, Juice caught it at the one and scored. And so everyone was just making fun of Juice's selfishness of not meeing it at the one. To try and get the boy in. Obviously joking.

There's people on the internet who are like, I've made a joke about it. And they're like, oh, since when did you care about? Like, so I'm like, obviously I want Juice before I'm joking. But no, that was. just funny. We all just started making fun of juice instead and how selfish he is as a teammate. That's amazing. I never felt so bad about scoring

six in his entire life. I know. I know. You bring up somebody. You said Brock Purdy through a dime. I don't know if you've heard some news reports, but there are people saying Brock Purdy's not the guy. Do you think this was a... Yeah, no, I heard that from an anonymous source. Yeah. I didn't really hear that from, you know, a

relevant source. Yes. Yeah, that... Okay, I see what you did there. And that's understandable. What about this game? Are you able to say to those people that said that, not your boys, they were just giving out the message. Wow. That's like a F you, so you see what he did today.

Well, first off, I mean, can we address it? Yeah, oh, bro, that's really, we're boys. Yeah, we're boys. If you got to hold some boys accountable, go ahead and do that. You have the floor. Taylor. Yes, sir. Anonymous reporting?

God, I swear to God, I swear to God, it's not. not my opinion. That's what he's saying. He's saying anonymous reporting. Yeah, but you're the, you know, what it? Will knows who my sources. Is this TMZ? Dog, this is. Oh, TMZ, dude. What do we do? Let's football TMZ. Listen. I have this last game, I mean, you can, you can, you can see what Brock Purdy's done, but you, I mean, look at the last, you know, we're talking since he's gotten in the, in the ball game. I don't disagree. The guy's been a stud. He's been bawling. And I don't know all the stats, but he's got the stats to show it, the QBR, the completion percentage, the completion under pressure, all that.

Guys done nothing but ball out. Right, right. And listen, if you look back being the avid fan of Bustin with the boys that you are, back in January, February, March, I talked about this anonymous source. You remember that, correct? You remember talking, you know who the anonymous source is. Hey, brother. This is your battle. God forbid you have to lean on friends.

I literally said this back in March. And then I left it alone. I let it ride. And then after the three games happened, Brock did have a couple of tough two-minute drills where there were some open guys. He kind of throws it in the safety's belly. Where I go to bring back up,

my anonymous source said this. And he also doubled down in a text after your second, the second loss, not the third one. To me, it's too easy. It's too easy to just wait. I mean,

you had to wait a long time to drop that. I mean, Brock's played. I don't know how many games has been phenomenal. It's tough. too easy to wait till like maybe first off there's always more that goes into it like I know for me there's been times where I might have been off on the timing that leads to a pick or like guys not in the right spot leads to big and Brock's always going to put it on his shoulders that's the kind of guy he is but it's just too easy to wait till someone fails to be like

not I told you so anonymous source told you so right because I'm a supporter of the 49ers how many times have I not told you have I not it's convenient reporting it's convenient reporting Fred Warner that you guys have the best locker room in all of the NFL. And I wish I was able to play for a team like the 49ers like that. We had a great locker room at the Titans. But I have given you guys so many flowers. And I can see, and I'm happy, I was able to give you guys that bulletin board material to go play the Jags. And I feel like I was a part of that win.

And I do understand where you're coming from. However, I have to lean back on the fact that it truly was an anonymous source. And because of he wasn't playing great. And he texted me and said, see, now there's a big enough Sam. simple size where you can beat Brock Purdy. That's like, all right, well, I guess this is where I go and I tell this is what I was told. But I see where you're coming from, brother. I see it.

I understand it. As long as you see. As long as you see where I'm coming from. If I was in your shoes, I'd be doing the same thing. And I think you've handled this well, too. I've essentially telling me, fuck you without saying fuck you. I think that was great. Go Niners.

Am I right? Hey, I'll tell you what, though, what I love to see is when he was under duress and that pocket was collapsing on him. and he did deliver a dot to George Kittle. And that is a big time throw that you get fired up for when we allude back to the Baltimore board material. And people kind of talking about, okay, they've dropped three. Is Brock Purdy? Is he not the guy?

Yada, yada, yada, yada. That was awesome to see because you guys did. It was, you guys got healthy. And what people don't understand, too, is that biweek was big for yourself. You've been a little banged up the last few weeks, even though you haven't been inactive like Debo and Trent, but you get the whole train back, the machine is back, and you guys are out there, you know, beaten ass. That has to feel good when that was going on yesterday at Jacksonville.

Yeah, 100%. I think the buy weeks are much needed, especially in kind of that middle of the year, because you play eight or whatever games in a row, but you also had training camp too. So the accumulation of, you know, wear and tear starts to, and I don't even know if it's physically, because I think by the time week eight turns, you know, hits, your body's pretty callous to it.

It's more just you need to get away for a little bit and rest. So I think it was huge. I think for us, you know, it's about just keeping the foot on the gas and not slowing down. You know, even in that game, and obviously I'm always going to say this after every week, but I think it's true. And I'm not just trying to be that guy. But I really do believe there's always things you can get better at. And there's things in that game that can make or break the momentum of the entire game.

You know, that's a really good team with a really good defense who have the numbers to back it up. And it's a game for a long time. A couple of plays here and there go our way. But we can still get better. And that's really the way we have to approach it is just continuing to get better every single week and not letting the score kind of dictate the way we feel. Obviously, wins feel good. But, you know, Kyle always talks about just going off of the tape. What does the tape look like?

You want that tape to look good because you can win and then you look at the tape. You're like, damn, we could have been a lot better. And then, you know, obviously you're still happy. But, you know, the way you look at a win, the way you look at a loss should be similar other than the feeling you get, the emotional feeling you get when you win. Looking at it with a critical eye, you brought up biweeks. Now, there's always that conversation when the, everyone gets all excited about what the schedule is when it goes out to the media. But players usually talk about that biweek. and a lot of times it's like, bro, we got a week four buy this here.

That sucks. To you, Christian McCaffrey, what is like the best week to have a buy week for you? Is it right around the time you did or do you want a little bit later? I think, yeah, I think eight. Like right in the midway point is great. The early buy is tough. The late buy is tough. But I think that that middle of the pack, yeah, I thought our buy was at a great time,

kind of perfect timing for us. What'd you do for the bye week? I went home to Denver, saw my family. I actually, I won a fly fishing tournament. Oh, let's go, man. Yeah. Let's go. There's only three of us doing it, but I still won.

Got a trophy and everything. Let's go. Podium no matter what. That's awesome. Podium. Can you talk about how important it is to get away? Because a lot of times, like, you know, I saw George, I believe he went to Montana.

He went to somewhere nice. I forget a couple weeks ago, somebody I think, believe, went on a biweek and you see fans every now and then talk about, oh, why are you going on a, why are you doing this on a biweek? Like you should be self-scouting, yada, yada. Can you talk about how important it is to get away from the facility to get away from football from your perspective? Yeah, you know, there's really only one speed that you go in the NFL,

and that's all out. It's full speed all the time. From, you know, physically, emotionally, and mentally, It's all day, every day. And your life and everyone else, life depends on it in a life. I say that not as an actual life. But you know what I mean? And because of that, you'll burn out.

If you go that hard 365 days a year, you will burn out. And you need to get away for a little bit more mentally and emotionally just to recharge your batteries and get back. I think it's extremely critical. When I used to train when I was a younger player in the league, my first coach, couple years, you know, the season would end. Then I would, I would start training pretty quickly after the season ended. And I just remember being a little bit burnt out by the time like week six came around. And it wasn't like I changed it all. Like it didn't change my process. It didn't change anything. I just felt like, damn, I've been doing this for a long time and didn't give

myself the respect that I needed to take a couple, you know, more, just mental breaks, you know, whether it's go go get on the beach somewhere and just rejuvenate, get back so that when you do come back, you're ready to go all out again. It's really hard to just constantly go 100% all the time for your body, for your mind, for everything. That's an interesting thing you bring up because that is a massive conversation between football players all the time is when do you start training in the off season during the biweek, what do you do? Something we talked about back in August is when you finally make the decision is like, all right, I'm going to take the biweek a little lighter than I've did in years past.

When did you start to work that out? And then how did you handle kind of like maybe the anxiety bug in your head being like, hey, you're not doing enough. Hey, you should be working out. You shouldn't be fly fishing, just dusting these two other guys in this tournament right now. Like what allowed you to kind of make peace with the fact that this is good for me to do? when a lot of it's you're just so bred to be work, work, work all the time. Yeah, that's a great question because it's the hardest question

even to this day for myself to answer. And I don't know if there's a concrete answer. It really depends. It depends on how you're feeling. It depends on kind of what you're going through. Body-wise, like, do I need, like, you know, if you're all banged up and you have some stuff lingering and going on, then you probably should stay and grind so that you can get back to normal.

But if you're pretty healthy and everything is going well and you know that like a couple days of rest can take care of this, then, you know, I think it's important to do that. But it's really a daily evaluation. I always try to move during the biweek, like do some sort of movement. Like you can't just sit there all day. But it really depends. Like for me, I just needed to rest. I needed sleep. I felt like sleep was the biggest thing for me because I'm going to get my treatment.

I'm going to do my workouts, but I need to sleep in. I need to go to bed early. I need to just let my body recover naturally as much as possible. And then when you get back to the week, then you get back to the football schedule. But you can't not move, but you can also overdo it. So you just want to make sure that that Monday when you come back, you feel like, okay, I could have played on Sunday this week, but I didn't. And that's why I would feel better than next week.

I love that. If we back up before the by week in Jacksonville, what was kind of the urgency level in the locker room around the building after dropping three? It was huge. You know, that it was such a weird taste in our mouth, I think, after you lose three going into a biweek. Because normally you want to go,

there's nothing like winning going into the biweek. You feel good. Yes. And I think that was, I don't want to say good. Losing's never good. But I think when we came back, everyone had a sense of urgency. It was, you know, we can't, this is a tough league.

It's tough to win. It's tough to play well all the time. It's tough to beat teams in the NFL. Everyone's good. You know, I've heard people talk about our roster, and our roster is amazing. I love it. Everyone's roster's good, though.

There's teams all over the place that have really good rosters. And it's about executing properly. And to do that, you've got to work really hard on and off the field. And so there was definitely a huge sense of urgency for our team to get back at it. And still is. I don't think that's changed at all. You bring up your roster and you guys during the trade deadline got an absolute stud to be on the other side of Nick Bosa.

I know he's a stud. I know he's going to play well for you guys. How is he fit into the locker room? How did he come in there? And what kind of guy is Chase Young? He's been great. He's been awesome. I mean, I think, you know, when I know exactly what he's going through right now.

And when you go into a team like this, one of the beauties of it is, you know, all you have to do is be yourself. And I think he sees that and he's done that. He's fit in great. Obviously played extremely well yesterday and we're excited to have him. But no, he's been a great locker room guy already. And he's been himself

and practices hard, works hard. And hopefully he's got a revamp sense of energy coming to our team. Dude, if you're in the NFC West and you're a tackle and you see that trade happening, you're just like, fuck, man, are we kidding? Yeah, you see that trade. Especially like with the Niners back.

like their defense showed up because there's been question marks outside of their four walls about their defense, especially past defense. And now you bring in Chase Young. You got guys who you can kind of pin your ears back more with four-man rushes than trying to get creative with blitzing so you get that extra guy. Like I'm sure, you know, as much as those tackles hate it, like I'm sure the back seven was relieved. Like, hey, we can play some more cover. We can do more this. We can do more of that. Yeah, man, I think he'll do well out there. One question I had for you, what is Christian McCaffrey's, guilty pleasure during the season. Is there a TV show? Is there something you do at the end of the week? Is it a restaurant? Is it food? Like, what is Christian McCaffrey's little guilty pleasure where he's like, you know what?

I'm checking out for about an hour. What are you getting naughty? Yeah, yeah. When you get naughty? Um, you know, I like, I love, I mean, we talked about the snacks on the plane. That's something I've always looked forward to. Because I'll eat, you know, the cookie. I'll eat everything on that plane.

I don't know if anyone else is the same as me when it comes to this, but I'm always looking for new shows and new movies, and I just watch The Office. And it's like I want to get into a new show, and I've seen The Office five times, but I just like, it's so much easier to just throw the office on than start a new show. And I'm not sure if anyone else is like me in that,

but it's hard for me to get into a new show during the season or anything like that. my guilty pleasure would be just throwing the office on and kind of just relaxing. Yeah, I feel like there's a level of when you start a new show, you're like, I really got to pay attention to pick up on the things, pick up on the reasons why people said, hey, you need to go watch this show. Yeah. When you put on like an office or parks and recreation, those ones are just like funny, you can keep them moving.

If you miss 15 minutes of it, it's not going to change the plot or anything like that, that is always a nice little deal. And also to go with that, like having the concentrate. but once you buy into a new show, there's part of you that you'll look at the clock, like if it's 8.45 and you got an hour in the next show, and you're like, okay, I can probably get in bed and hopefully asleep by 10 p.m.,

but then it goes into 10.30. It's 10.38 when you're checking your clock to where you're like, I knew I shouldn't have watched that one more episode. Like, when you're bought in, like when you are getting pulled into that show sucked in, like it's, you almost, no, no, boss. You almost like, you start to compromise a little bit. Like, let me get an extra one here. Okay, I'll sleep six hours instead of seven.

because you want to watch, like, they left me on a nice cliffhanger. So it's probably smart that you do that. That is very smart. What did you have on the ride back from Jacksonville? I had the boom chickapop. By the way, shout out boom chika pop. They sent a bunch of popcorn in the locker room. Let's go.

That's huge. Yeah. Yeah. So thanks to the boys for giving me the platform. Boom chikapopop. Business is open. Yep. The EQ guys, we all.

indulged in it. So it was great. I also, that's the other thing. I'll play a little bit of Fortnite. I feel like I'm the longest tenured Fortnite player in the NFL. I started playing when the game came out, and I haven't played another game since. It's the only game I'll play. And I've gone through like four or five different rosters of guys. So my Mondays and Tuesdays, when I have some time off,

I'll kick back in the chair and play the game for sure. And then like, I've never been, I was more of a PubG guy versus Fortnite. but didn't Fortnite just go back to like an original map or something like that? Yeah, the OG map is back. They got different, you know, you ever played Call of Duty too? You remember gun game in the town? Oh, yeah. So they have that now.

You can play that with Fortnite guns, like no build. There's a bunch of, you know, so I'll get on with my high school buddies and we'll play that, which is fun. That's probably my guilty pleasure of the week. Is that a, you're a big first person shooter guy? Like, hey, we're playing with a bunch of people? Or do you like a good storyline when it comes to your video games also? The storyline doesn't do it for me.

I am. I'm not going to play by myself either. I like if my buddies are on, I'll play. Because it's more about the camaraderie for me and just a little bit of competition that's kind of unconscious. You can sit back and do whatever. But I never got into the storyline. I think like the last storyline game I played was probably Halo 3 way back in the day. Still a great game.

It was a great game. but yeah I know it's more first person if you want something that's less stressful on the eyes and the reaction time we got a nice little thing going with a game called risk it's a board game we play it on the Xbox Live and that would be a great addition to try to cut it. Yes dude it is so much fun

because everyone just making strategic moves and you're like texting people on the side like I'm going to do this you got to go do this he's getting too powerful oh man guys are just talking shit the whole time back and forth You're really playing the game for like four or five hours. It's definitely an off-season game, but I think you would be a phenomenal addition. I would love to join.

That's a good time. You got anything else for the boy? I think last time we talked about after the tier talk, we were getting into some ice cream. Is that a subject that you have some expertise in, where you got a ranking, you have a little ranking system for your top three? I see you clearing your throat. Like, this might be your moment.

Yeah. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't call myself an expert, just speaking honestly. I like what I like, and I'm standard when it comes to ice creams. You're not going to enjoy my evaluation, but I can give it to you. I would love to hear it.

This is going to make you sick. I could just see. Have you ever seen that video on Instagram of the guys who grabbed the spoon and he's like showing you how you taste ice cream? Yeah. I feel like Chris is doing that in his head right now. Yeah.

No, this will make you sick because my my rankings aren't anyway number one for me. Start at the top. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I'll start three.

Number three is mint chocolate chip. Number two is anything Oreo, cookies and cream. And my number one is Hagenda's

vanilla ice cream. Yep. boys I'm sorry I don't know what to tell you I apologize but that's what it is I'm not going to sit here and lie on the bus Do you want to know

that's worse than watching the first half of that game like Raiders Jets like that's as bad as watching an Iowa football game right there This is not this is actually not a joke if you were to flip your picks you have the same exact palette as my six year old daughter Yeah

your daughter is a great palette And vanilla, no, I've, I meant chocolate chip is just, it always blows my mind when people are like, yeah, I mess with mint chocolate chip. I just, I don't think it's bad. Let me explain the mint chocolate chip, though, because I used to agree with you on that. I would, I would laugh when someone would bring up mint chocolate chip. But to me, it's the, you could eat the whole thing and feel good. Like, whatever, whatever ones you guys are probably going to say, you're three bites and you have a stomach ache, right? It depends.

I mean, I get to the bottom and then it takes probably 20 minutes for it to kick in. Yeah. But. Yeah, then you're hurting. Yeah, if I'm on some vitamins, I can put down like a pint and a half before I try to say like, hey, well, you got to stop. Yeah. Like three prebiotics before to convince yourself like, oh, this is going to take.

Hey, hey, I'll throw in a bar. I had P of Chang's last night and I gave myself three digestive enzymes thinking like, oh, I'm good. I had the enzyme. I'm completely fine. Hey, that is the logic. Jicto. Yeah.

We were in, we were at Barstall HQ and Big Cat orders, what's the spotty orders the milkshakes for to make it special? Portillo's. Portillos.

Portillos. He orders milkshakes for Portilloes. And these, we're talking about guzzlers. We're talking about big gulps you get the 711 size of it. Yeah, like, 64 ounce cups.

And Willie's like, have you had Jenny's ice cream? Have you had gooey buttercake? And a couple guys did, a couple guys didn't. So Will also orders that. I drink a entire 64 ounce, vanilla shake.

And then the gooey butter cake got there. And I'm like, I'm going to have a couple bites. I ate a whole damn pie to that too. For me, it's at the stomach, I feel like my lower extremities. I can like legit feel them.

Like, I feel like I could tear anything at any moment. But your thing with mint chocolate chip is like you feel, you feel just as like you don't feel as bad. It's a refresher to me. Yeah, it's a refresher. Is that what you want on your ice cream?

This is the thing I like about it. Because I've always had a critique on mint chocolate chip is that they don't, you don't get enough chocolate chip in it. Yeah. And so you're always waiting for that next bite, but that's part of what keeps you in the game is, you know, if you're unconsciously scooping, you're eating, you're like, man, I wish there was a chocolate chip in that bite.

All you're thinking about is the next bite. Like when I have the ooey-goor whatever, the butter cake. You have that, by the way, you've had that in the first bite. Every bite's the same. You're like, all right, I'm good. Dude, to me, it's like, holy shit, I get an entire pint of this flavor in my mouth. Because I'm one of those guys I eat faster because like as it's gone in my mouth, I need the taste back in.

So I'm always, you know what I mean? And like in Jennings, you let it sit for just a little bit so you can start getting the little melted edges. And then that is when you know you're playing with house money. Because for me, the gooey buttercake and like the high five candy bar from Jenny's dairy queen, I mean, I'm a big chocolate candy guy. Dude, if that's loaded up and you know something's, it's all the way down to the bottom, like to me, that's, that's, that's, It's like, do you want to feel refreshed after eating ice cream? And to me, my answer is no. If that's how we eat ice cream, then I don't want to be right.

As an adult, the way. And hey, I actually, that's a good point. And I understand that. Maybe in a different stage of my life, maybe I changed my mind just right now where I'm at. I like the classics. The other thing, too, there's just a vanilla. There's so much pressure. There's so much pressure when you go to like an ice cream store and order.

Because there's 10,000 flavors. you're like, I'm not going to buy five pines of different ones. Well, you could. But I know what's consistent and I know what I'm going to enjoy. Like if I order cookies and cream, if I'm going to an ice cream, you know, a little local shop and they have cookies and cream, that's what I'm going to get because I know I'm going to enjoy it. But if I get like chocolate fudge brownie with something, I'm like, it's 50-50, whether or not I'm even going to like this.

And it's 2080, whether or not it's, I'm going to like it more than. cookies and cream. So that's why I stick to the classics because I know for a fact I'll enjoy it and that's good enough for me. I'm not a risk taker at the ice cream stand. It's a good. That's all great points. Yeah, it's a veteran. I feel like that is a veteran savvy move because I can get caught window shopping for sure. And I'll still eat the whole thing and I'll be like, I would have liked you know what I knew I loved before this. Because I am, I'm like, oh, that thing sounds good. Yeah. And I'm like you in that way. Sometimes you see one you like, but there's that other one then you're like, man, maybe I should get that.

And then one of your buddies or your wife gets that one. And then you have a couple bites of yours. And they're like, hey, do you want to try? And you obviously do try it. And that one's better. Yeah. And now all of a sudden, the plate you're at is, it's worthless to you. Yeah.

That's why I'll do. He kind of alluded to it, but I will. I'll buy a couple. I'll buy a couple and figure out if this is really worth the flavor. I'll eat it. And then I'll save one of my, you know, OG favorites at home. And then if I don't like it, just toss it. We'll get back to business.

I feel like as an adult, when you get into your 30s, like the idea of having ice cream, it's a, you have to get amped up. Like you're at the boy's house. You're hanging out and having a good time. You're like, do you want some dairy queen ice cream? You're like,

fuck yes, I want some dairy queen ice cream. And you're going to go off. That's not the time to get your vanillas, your mint chocolate chips or your, your Oreos, even though an Oreo Blizzard does hit. But that's the time to get a little,

yeah, you get a little wallet. Yeah, obviously I want the large. Can they put an extra squirt of caramel in that thing? Like, that's when you get a little wild, you know,

if you're sitting to the side having like, after your nice little dinner on a Thursday night and have one scoop of vanilla ice cream, you might be a serial killer. That's a crazy move. That's a crazy move as an adult. I know, but it's Hagen-Daz specifically. The Hagen-Daz is the best.

I'll feel, this is what will happen, though. Because I understand what you're saying, and it's a great point. But I'll feel, oh, you know, like, I'm going to venture off and do something crazy. I'll order a strawberry. Because sometimes that strawberry is intriguing. You're like, I'm going for,

and maybe it's maybe it's the mood you're in like i don't want anything heavy and as soon as i take that bite of strawberry instant regret as soon as i take any any other bite other than vanilla or oreo it's instant regret because i'm comparing it to that yeah that's why i like you know i respect the places where you can add your own topics because every time i get vanilla and i add oreos and i don't want the gummy worms and i don't want that in my ice cream i don't want even sprinkles i've never been a spring. They don't do anything from nothing. I was with you with the worms. You lost me on the sprinkles. Because I personally, oh, you're a sprinkle guy? My favorite combination is vanilla ice cream with caramel and sprinkles. I think that is just an absolute staple that to me is probably the

best combination you can possibly have. That's why I said, I don't. I don't. I hate his vanilla taste. The caramel. You just said vanilla caramel. Yeah, rainbow sprinkles. Yeah, rainbow sprinkles. not the chocolate ones, the rainbow ones. You are a fruitcake, man. Bro, don't... Bro, you put a little extra on there, it adds texture. Dog, sprinkles? That is insane.

No, I see... Why every time we talk about treats or snacks that I have to be together than the odd man out? I'm telling you, Sprinkles is a move on ice cream. It's a move. No, it takes away... It takes away what ice cream is. I don't like my ice cream shouldn't be they shouldn't have sprinkles on.

No. This is the thing. You put Oreos on ice cream. It makes sense because you're like I could have an Oreo plain and it's going to taste good. Yeah. When do you eat sprinkles? Like when are you eating sprinkles plain? You would never do that.

So why would you do it? No, it's not. When you have a cheeseburger and you put ketchup on it, if you were to eat ketchup by itself, you'd be like, I want to eat this. It's the same thing as you're saying to the sprinkles. No, it's not. It's the same analogy you. just used. Hang on. What else? Hang on. You can put ketchup. You can put ketchup on a lot of stuff.

Yeah. You can put ketchup on a million things. Sprinkles, you're dealing with one one category. Ice cream, a milkshake. And a and a sugar cookie or something like that. Like a Boston cooking. And by the way, I don't even, I don't want the sprinkles on the sugar cookie either. Yeah. Spinkles is kind of just like that annoying rain. It's like it's not heavy enough to be like, you know, hey, it's storming outside. It's just kind of hitting you. And you're just like, God, why is it raining? What a waste of a day. I could not disagree with either of you more. I think Sprinkles is a, it's not,

it's my favorite topping on with vanilla ice cream and caramel, that combination. And it's a, it's a unique little thing. It's like your pumpkin spice lattes. It's just, it's not for all the time. It's for in those moments. You said it's your favorite. It's my favorite combination. If you have vanilla ice cream. Yeah, we heard it.

Caramel. French vanilla, caramel, and sprinkles. You put those three together. You're living. You're living the dream. That is, that to me, is a move. Oreos are great. Oreos are great. But it's essentially you said the same thing. You did the same thing with Oreos as I did

with ketchup and a burger. And I know that ketchup's a more versatile condiment. However, mustard. Still a more versatile thing, but it's going to make your sandwich better, but you're not going to get mustard by itself. You're playing with an old ball. You're playing on two completely different fields here.

Yeah. Because that's all right. Yeah. No, that is your, yeah. that's again, that's your truth. That is your truth for sure. Absolutely. Popcorn. Now we're talking popcorn. Hey, we're never going to go out to eat together the three of us.

No, I think that's why we have to. We're going to get ice cream the next time we see each other. Yeah. Christian and I kind of want to say, and we're like, Taylor, what are you getting? I'm going to come out to Nashville in the off season, and we're going to get 30 different ice creams. We're going to put them down, and we're going to taste test all of them.

And we got to cover the label, so we have no idea what flavor it is. Yeah. It will rank them. Perfect. Perfect. That'd be fun. Goey Buttercake coming out top.

I know it's going to come out. Top three, no doubt. I actually did that with my bunnies over this off season. I did that same thing. We did a big taste test for all these ice creams. And vanilla wasn't included and cookies and cream wasn't included. And I can't remember what finished top. But maybe next time I'll come back and I think I have it on video.

I'll remember which one won. Because if you want a more sophisticated answer, then I can give you whatever flavor one that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely, we'll definitely do that. That's, that's right up our alley. Yeah, no, we're a big, big ice cream boys. Do what? Yeah, that's a great, that's a good time.

That is a really good time. A couple vitamins. Yeah. Place some risk after? Oh, yes. Yeah, absolutely. We'll have a time. Yeah.

Are we solid? Seems like, hey, CMC, thank you for giving us, gifting us your time, bro. We really were. We were rooting for your hardcore. I was yelling at my TV because I had you in a parlay. I had you in a parlay. Yeah.

I was feeling it with you. But yeah, fired up for you, bro. 16 games, a touchdown streak. That is, that is awesome.

18. 18. 18. Yeah. Tied a record. Tied a record in the NFL. His name will be etched in history forever. We're going to keep,

we're going to end this on a great note. We're not going to bring up last week. And what happened between the three of us last week. We'll talk about that at a different time because it's been such high vibes. But we have, Appreciate you coming on. Make sure you tell Brock I said hello. And I'm rooting for him.

I will. I appreciate you guys always, man. All right, brother. We'll see you. You're the man, bro. Every time. Every time. He's good at the list.

And his logic in it is great, too. When he goes, he's like, he kind of sets it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's kind of sitting there like, I can do a list. Like, I'm not an expert, but I'll give it to you if you want me to. Kind of like set it up. up, like, you know, yeah, give it to us. And he's like, all right, then he kind of just pauses.

Looks down. Because you knew that vanilla at the top was going to really throw a lot of people through. Yeah. But if I was to pick between the core three of strawberry vanilla and chocolate, I would pick vanilla. Which I know I'm an outlier on that. Yeah, to me, I can go. Now, strawberry is a third for me unless we're talking milkshakes.

I think a smooth, like a strawberry milkshake is solid. but to me picking the three out of vanilla chocolate and strawberry it's kind of like you know which Pokemon am i going to start with it doesn't really like i can i can you we can win with all of them i love that i love that analogy i loved that every the way you explained it yeah like Pokemon's been a big uh category for us yeah yeah this weekend really just twice it was uh the name game and now yeah yeah but still it rings true joy i mean we grew up on Pokemon man man if you guys if uh that was a true locker room hangout session. It was.

Yeah. And that's why you come here, boys. That's why you come to the show. Obviously, McCaffrey just played. We have Steveo coming on. We're going to rip some ads for you guys. We're going to do good, bad, the ugly. We're going to do our twisted question of the week.

Is there anything else that we're going to do? Because I feel like... There's a question... You did Shittiest Moment. Direct take also. Let's... Do you want to do our good, bad, the ugly, or do you want to twist a question first? Let's go Twisted question brought to us by

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Grab a refreshing twisted tea today And this twisted question is brought to us by our boy, Mitchie in the back. Mitch, what do you have for our twisted question, bro? All right. Our twisted question this week, it's pretty cut and dry. Would you rather be blind or be deaf? I always hate the negative ones.

I know. Yeah, like these are always, you know, they've been some lose-lose. Yeah, but short answer for me is death. Yeah, I think deaf too. So I saw something on Twitter about this one and like a friend asked one of their blind friends, like if you could be, which one would you rather be? And she said that she would rather be blind because being deaf is so lonely. Because you can't really, like, you're just, you're not hearing anything all the time.

Whereas, like, being blind, like, you can still have conversations with people and, like, still connect with them. But, like, being deaf, like, you can't. You're just, you're just kind of alone in silence your entire life. Fair. Yeah, that's a good point. And that movie, uh, Ray from Ray Charles, like Jamie Fox. He made that blind shit seem kind of like a mood, kind of like a vibe.

People by the wrist, knowing they look like. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah. I would still go, I would still go deaf, though. Do we want to do another one? Do we want another one? No, that's fine. We just, we leave it out there.

That's, you know, that's one. That's a question of the week. I think we can, there's some upside, I guess, with both. See everything or hear everything. These are tough to come up with. So if you guys, if you guys have a twisted questions, drop them in the comments because your boy's struggling. Well, that's where you can use the internet to your advantage.

Monday morning so you can go on the bus and a count. pop that thing out there and see what people bring up. You know? And it's no longer on Mitch Carson. It's now on the people. Help me out. Should we jump into, you want to, we want to talk college ball?

Your boys, your boys, Michigan had a big win. Big win at Penn State. Big win at Penn State. Did not do a forward pass in all of the second half. I guess one that registered because there was a PI that moved ball down the field. Are you concerned about not throwing the ball in the second?

and a half, or are you more lean to the side of we didn't have to throw it? Like, we just ran the ball the entire time. I beat you guys without a I love the way from a blind fan standpoint that the way that Dave phrased it. He's like, we are so dominant that we decided we're just going to run the ball the whole time. Me, you saw me at

Bat Rouge. I had a lot of questions like, what's going on with JJ? Is he all right? Did he get hurt? Because I know he'd see a couple of hits in the beginning of the game or maybe something happened the week before that. I'll feel a whole lot better after this week. We're playing Maryland this week. I think the line has already started at like minus 20 and a half, which is

kind of small. But I almost think Michigan's not going to cover that. Why? Because the game is the next week. And I've said at the beginning of the year, Maryland's the scariest game on our schedule. Because it's between Penn State, big win, and obviously all the heightened emotions with the allegations, Sharon Moore, you saw it in his face after the game. And then you go into Maryland. And it's kind of like, okay, let's play this team, even though it's a good ball club, especially in September, they're a great ball club. And then, but you got Ohio State to look forward to after that and just continuing the FU button that Michigan's can just press since

middle of October when all these allegations came out. So I don't know. It does make me, it makes you worried. I just think if I'm looking at a critical line. It was, I'm like, why aren't they throwing the ball? Because again, JJ's like a Heisman contender. Whether or not he wins it, whether or not he's in the top three. Yeah, it's up for

everybody's debate. I think after that game, you can't like you're not going to look back and go, okay, this guy's going to win the Heisman. Let's say, let's say he was a front runner, which he had one, I think he, betting odds, after Michigan State he was. Does he have the best out still? Which is wild because you have, you know, I think Bo Nex is ball in an Oregon right now.

That Pennix kid from... I think Michael Pennix should be... And he's a stud. And is it Jaden Daniels? The guy from LSU. Yeah. Jane Daniels, yeah. Yeah, but his team's not doing it as well.

Not very good. Right, right, right. If we're talking best player Heisman like outside of how well the team does, because they are seven and three and one of the best offenses, I mean... Insane.

Possibly the best offense in the country. Right. But they just have zero defense. But that dude, that cat, Jane Daniel, like he is a monster, bro. Yeah.

So if you're given an argument for why JJ should not win, because there's a lot of good ballplayers this year, a lot of good quarterbacks especially, it's top 10 game, the first real game, according to everybody else, you've played this whole entire year.

Why aren't you basically putting on JJ's shoulders the entire time? Yeah, right. I think this Penn State game kind of tossed him out of the conversation. Like, maybe he'll be there at the award ceremony. But it's, again, you're playing a team like Penn State. Like, we all watch that game. Like, that was a massive game.

And a Heisman winner, you're leaning on that guy. Yeah. You're leaning on that guy to win the game. But it's more like Blake Quorum to me is, you know, somebody who's more of a Heisman candidate coming out of Michigan than anybody else. What if JJ has a good game in the game? Again, I don't think. It's hard because it's like,

you're looking at these guys like you're looking at penix you're looking at uh jaden you said from lsu yeah jaden daniels and you're looking at bow nix bo nix and it's like those games those big games are like we have to have this guy like be dishing out the ball you have to make sure this guy we had to put it on his shoulders because he's going to win it and that game eyes will be on him eyes will be on him and you're like how do we defeat this man and now michigan you know we have a we had a good run game that came out against a team that was i think statistically top five both teams like that was straight running game and defense right right right running game. It was an

line of scrimmage. It was an awesome game. I just hope JJ's not hurt or something happened where it's like you don't want to put the ball in his hands to throw it a whole bunch because he had three picks against Bowling Green but since then he's at zero picks. He's been dishing it. You watch the way he was planning against Michigan State like that game specifically

stands out my mind the way where the placement of the football was going. And the week before that against Purdue, he had a couple of that, you know, catching guys while they're running and they're kind of catching it behind them and a couple things. And that stands out to you after the Michigan State game. And then this game, no throws.

Yeah. Eight throws. And he still goes seven for eight with 60 yards. So it's not like... What do you mean? Still go seven. If you're seven for eight after, I think it was like maybe the first quarter or a couple minutes in the second quarter, he was already like seven for eight.

And that's, those are good numbers. I mean, that's a good completion percentage. Yeah, as a quarterback facilitating an offense, those aren't Heisman numbers. Yeah, exactly. But if you're in the first quarter of a game, that's solid. Yeah. That's the only time you through it. That's what I'm saying.

saying. So I'm wondering what happened that they had to make the adjustment to go and just run it. And I'm looking at it from a critical eye of like being more nervous than I am optimistic. Like Dave is taking the optimistic approach where it's like we don't have to throw the ball with our Heisman quarterback to win the game. We can beat you any way you want. Personally,

I walked away from that game being like, Good win, boys covered. I thought they played well. I thought the defense was in a bend don't break situation against a better offense than they've played. I thought the quarterback for Penn State played really, really, really bad. Yeah, that was brutal. I thought he was terrible because he did throw the ball a lot

and he had 50 yards of offense. Yeah, that was tough to watch, man. So now I sit there and just unbiasedly looking at the game you may see me personally a little more nervous. Yeah. I can see that. But the positive is that defense played really well and yeah, the quarterback they didn't have a quarterback. It would have been

you know, it had been interesting had they had an accurate quarterback playing decent. Which they have at Ohio State. Right, which they have in Ohio State. But another positive is like, you know, you're really leaning on Blake Quorum and he was delivering. Yeah. And then obviously the game's coming up and speaking about the game, dude, bragging rights. Not quite a trophy game, but if Ohio State wins, they get themselves them cute little gold pants.

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and now available in your closest Walmart. Yeah, go back to the Heisman talk real quick. If JJ, let's say balls against Maryland, has crazy numbers, and then he does the same thing against Ohio State, and then he does the same thing in the Big Ten championship game, do you think he's still out of that Heisman talk? I think he's in like a top five,

but I don't think he ever, I don't think he sniffs the top three. Yeah, it's hard for me to argue after seven and eight and 60 yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, if he was balling, I'm trying to be like objective about it. To me, it's like if you're looking at who to vote for the Heisman winner in a game like Penn State,

when you're in some third, medium, third longer, and you're still just running the football, like you're going to lean on your Heisman player who is, the award is for the best player in college football. Right. And to me, it's like Blake Corm is the best player on the team and Michigan, that's what they're who they were leaning on throughout the entire game. Yeah. If you look at Blake's numbers though, I mean, his average is like 5.9 yards per carry,

but he hadn't had like crazy numbers this year aside from the amount of touchdowns he scored. Again, he's not playing a whole lot in the second and second halves. Yeah, fair. You had an interesting conversation on Thursday at HQ with Casey about how this college football playoff. Yeah. You get money between five and seven. Do you want to break that down for a little bit?

Because I was kind of, I was away from that conversation, getting ready for the football football show. Yeah, so what you ultimately, like what we're going to see is teams being left out of the college football playoff. You're going to have an undefeated Big Ten champion, assuming the trap game, like assuming teams take care of business, right? You're only going to look at the game. Whoever wins Ohio State Michigan is going to come out of an undefeated Big Ten champion,

an undefeated Florida State as we sit here and look at it, a one lost Pac-12 champion from Oregon or Washington, one lost Texas. A one-loss SEC champ, Alabama, if they beat Georgia in the SEC championship, a one-loss Georgia and a one-loss Big Ten team. Yeah. If that's how it plays out. I think the way it is trending right now, Georgia has looked more like a Georgia. Georgia looks scary this week.

Yeah, for sure. But also, Bama looks real. In my opinion, Bama is going to win the SEC championship. Like, who do you think comes out? Who do you think comes out of these conferences? You're obviously Michigan. Yeah, I don't know who's, I think the, I think the, Question should be who do we think is left out.

Because I think we might live in a world where an undefeated Florida State team could be left out of the college football playoffs. I don't think so. It could happen. It could happen. ACCC champion. And I get it, but like. Go to Florida. Florida.

Florida. Texas is hurt by Oklahoma because they lost to Oklahoma and Oklahoma has just been not great frauds in the college football landscape. Georgia, if they lose to Alabama, Alabama has come on in a big way where it's like, Do you leave, can you leave them out? What happens if Ohio State loses to Michigan, do they go from one to five? Like, if Michigan loses off it, they will absolutely be out. People are looking for a reason and they're three. They would be out no matter what, even without the allegations.

You're going to have Florida State, when you're looking at their schedule, they beat LSU, they beat Clemson, they beat Duke, they beat, I don't know if Wake Force has ever been ranked this year. They beat, uh... What's up? Clemson. Clemson's like 500 this year or just above. They're like, they're like starting to play better right now on this back half of the year.

They really, I mean, they are. I'm with you. But again, I think a win over an LSU. Like if a win over LSU is like they're only. Yeah, because they play Duke when Duke was no longer ranked. Duke was hot September and like early October and they kind of fell off a little bit, right? They're no longer ranked. But if you.

go off them being undefeated. Right, right. To C.C. teams because people talk about Florida, people talk about LSU, you win the ACC championship or whoever comes out of that. It's going to be probably North Carolina, right? Yeah, but North Carolina wouldn't. There's two lost team. It'll play into the data of like strength of schedule being good enough to be in the top four.

Right. I personally don't think that they're a top four football team coming out of it to the Colorado playoff. I just think if they do go undefeated, they will get it. in. So who do you think it's left out? Let's tear them. Bring up the top

10. Let's tear who we think these teams are in the college football playoff talk. Because I'll tell you what, the scariest thing to happen this weekend was Georgia. The way they came out

and they're just, how is Brock Bowers back? I think if I was, if you tear these schools, the top tier kind of plays itself out. Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State. One of those teams will get left out between Michigan, Ohio State.

I think tier two right now yeah. You know who? Literally the rest of them to Alabama. So four to eight. Florida State, Washington, Oregon. And then you got Texas, Alabama, who I would jump over Oregon State and LSU right, or Louisiana

right now is Missouri. I put Missouri in my tier. Louisiana, Louisville? I put Missouri over. You put Missouri over Louisville and Oregon State. Yeah, for it to round out my tier three. how I think it will end up my prediction. I think Alabama beats Georgia. I think Georgia is left out of the college football playoff.

And I think it is the Big Ten champ, whoever that is. I think Florida State wins out. And then I also think Oregon gets in as a one-lost Pac-12 team. So who did you pick Alabama? I think Oregon beats Washington in a Pac-12. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My great, great move. I even wrote that for my direct take to you.

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1-800, Direct TV. My overly direct take is Georgia gets left out of the college football playoff. I think Alabama beats them in the SEC championship. I think people will yell from the mountaintop, whether Alabama wins by 30. three, seven, whatever. All Georgia should get in. I think Georgia gets left off because, in my opinion, the SEC championship,

if it is Georgia and Alabama, should be that extension of the college football playoff getting in. I think the same thing with the Big Ten. That should be an extension of getting in. I think when you look at a one-loss Texas, it becomes down to, okay, you're going to have one-loss teams between, you say Texas wins out, avenges their loss against Oklahoma, and then you have, I'm thinking Oregon will come out of the Pack 12. Then you've got a one-loss Oregon team.

avenging their loss against Washington. I think Oregon has had a better schedule, a better run than a one-lost Texas team because Texas almost lost to Kansas State. Who did they just play over the weekend? They didn't look very good over the weekend with Quinn Ewers back. TCU.

TCU. They were in a close one with TCU. Yes, they beat Alabama, but they beat Alabama in September. They're not, they didn't beat this Alabama team that's playing right now where Millrow is not a question mark. So to me, that is my college football playoff. Oregon, Oregon, who would I say?

Oregon, Alabama, Florida State, and then the Big Ten Champion. Well, you need to say who the Big Ten Champion is if you're making a prediction. I don't know, man. It ain't Iowa. I think it's tough. What's up?

That it's definitely not Iowa. Oh, yeah, yeah, because it's going to come from the game. Yeah, Big Ten champion would be Michigan. If Michigan loses to Ohio State, there's Ohio State now going to the Big Ten championship? Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's going to be Michigan or Ohio State.

Ohio State. It's going to be one of you guys. I think it is tough. I think it's tough to determine. If I had to guess, I think Ohio State sneaks you guys. All right. I want you guys to win. I will be clear. I want Michigan to win. Yeah, that's, okay. That's how you want to play it. No, I'm saying, I'm trying to be objective on this. Georgia is going to be in. I think Michigan will be in.

Ohio State will be out, obviously. Florida State will be in. And then I like the Oregon take. Because that's going to go down to Washington, Oregon. in the pack they'll play this with in the pexball championship yeah so the winners scary scary but Oregon's tough man Oregon Oregon Oregon's been on a who did they play this weekend um USC yeah Washington played Utah I mean Utah has been has played all these teams super super tough but like just Washington seems like they can score at will whenever they want yeah panic just throws it up to their receivers and they're like all right screw it yeah we're gonna be

motivated though I like they have a they have an older defense And we talked about on Bet the Bus, them in the trenches. I like the way Oregon plays. Then you get a nice little day-and-landing speech pregame. I like Oregon. I like Oregon fired up. So that's what I'm not for. I'll take Oregon in there.

Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Oregon. I hope they do too. I don't think they're that good. And it's the ACC. I'll tell you what if Florida... It's just wild because, like, Clemson won at like two or three years, something like that. Let's say Florida State loses.

Who do we feel like gets in? And Georgia loses. One loss Michigan or Ohio State and then a one lost Washington. Because you do, you have a one loss, Washington, I mean one lost base, one loss all of them up there. I think the only way you have two Bay 10 teams in there is if Michigan beats Ohio State because Ohio State in the college football playoff is ranked one. And Michigan's ranked three.

So if Michigan loses to Ohio State, they will drop to five. Yeah, yeah. If it's a close game, like last year was a close one, right? I don't know. Okay. No. If it was like a close game because Ohio State did still get in. But I think if two teams got in from a conference, I think it would be Ohio State, Michigan,

because they don't play in the Big Ten championship. I'm not saying that them over Alabama and Georgia. I'm saying that if Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC championship, like to me, that should be the plan to get into the playoff. I think Georgia gets in no matter what. I don't know. And like in previous years when two SEC teams make it into the championship, I would agree with you.

but because it's so tight between five and eight, it's hard to, somebody to lose and then keep them in. But like Georgia being two, they can easily drop three spots, being like, sorry, boys. But they also have back-to-back Natty, so do you keep them in it?

Yeah, that's a good... It'll be interesting the way these next three weeks kind of navigate everything. I know, it's just a fun time of the year. That'll be fun. Should we talk NFL? Yeah, don't let the Raiders get hot.

Yeah, no. Two in a row. They are Josh Jacobs. Playing better. All of them are playing better, man. Against it, I mean, they didn't score a whole lot of points that over the Delaney took did not hit even close, but. Because that Jets' defense is crazy.

It's crazy. Zach Wilson just hurts him. Yeah. And there's reports coming out now that Aaron Rogers said he's looking for a December comeback. So I think the Jets. That would be so nuts. The Jets are playing the Bills and the Dolphins next.

they've got to win one of those to keep it for Aaron Rogers to even try to come back because if they lose both those I think you're out of the playoffs but it's not looking great you've got to beat you've got to beat the bills

yeah it's not looking good but the Raiders schedule in the back half is really tough so yeah I mean they're in a tough division as well that's kind of overlooked because the charges have underperformed this year and the Broncos Broncos are actually getting a whole lot better

Yeah. And the Chiefs haven't been putting a whole lot of points on the board either. So it's like kind of people are like looking past the AFC West. Right. Because the AFC North is filled with absolute juggernauts right now. The only fraud, the only fraud in there is the Steelers. Yeah. Like they've, I don't know how they're six and three.

But they, hey, they've figured it out. The Bengals also had the same record this time last year. Bengals, I mean, bangles are five and four. Bengals are tough. Tough. I can't believe they lost. I mean, C.J. Stroud is incredible, bro. He, he's different.

The kid is different. You hate putting it on a play, play, or anything like that, but, man, Lloyd catches that ball in the end zone, bro. They still might go down and score, though. Yeah, but they have to score versus kick a field goal. Yeah. I was, I think the Texans are going to win the South. They're just getting hot at the right time right now.

Texans look good. I think the Jaguars are still... This is my third change in the AFC South, by the way. I went... No, I went Titans twice. But I'm finally like, all right. Yeah. And...

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Colts, like, they got a win, but again, they lost Richardson. Like, they're, you know, they're still... Three and one at home. O and five on the road. Oh, and five since, like, November 17th of last year. I think the last game they won

was that Thursday night game against the Packers away. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what it is tough. It's like you had that little bit of hope with Will Levis a couple of weeks again. go and Will's a stud. But I just think, yeah, the old line, it's kind of back to,

oh, shit. I know. It's tough. Because you can't easily go overreact at the box score and be like, is Will not the guy? Which I literally came in and said this morning, I was like, is Will, is Will the guy or what? Yeah, I think Will.

I didn't get to watch a whole lot of ball yesterday, but. It was. But to your point, the Texans are playing good. But I do. I think the Jaguar still get it. Like I still, like, they just lost to a very, tough, very pissed off. Yes.

They were on a five-game winning streak. Yeah, I like, I still like the Jags. I like Houston and get in, though. I like Houston to get in the playoffs, which is nuts to say after the way that they've been as a team the last couple of years in an organization. So who's out in the AFC North end? Because we're looking at three teams possibly in the playoffs there.

That was your fun take a couple weeks ago. I think the Steelers end up still not making it. I think you got the Ravens, the Bengals, And the Browns is how it ended up. I think the Browns will scrap to try to make that seventh spot. Because if you look at the AFC, the AFC is loaded. When you compare the AFC and NFC, it's all kind of playing itself out now because the NFC is not near as tough as they seem to be in like those first five, six weeks.

Go, you got the Chiefs, you got the Ravens, Bengals, Browns. That's four. If you go, Jaguars, Texans, 5,6, and then there's one more from the, you would have one coming out of the east and i think it'll be miami you think so look at the steelers point points for and points against differential yeah 156 182 that is nuts man just crazy because if you look if you look at the east then that would mean that would mean that the bill slip and don't get in which could happen like to me they're not a team that's playing like a a team that knows who they are right now they're all they do is they lean on josh allen obviously we're recording this right now on

Monday morning, so we haven't watched the game, Bills versus Broncos tonight. But as of right now, where my opinion is, is that, yeah, it seems like the bills, the bills would miss it. I would love to see the Jets come around, right? You would love to see this Aaron Rogers story kind of play out, him come back in December. He gets him to the playoffs. That would be insane because if the Jets have Aaron Rogers as a quarterback, like they are so good of a football team because today of weapons, man.

Garrett Wilson, he is an absolute stud. Brees Hall, he just needs the, he needs the offense. He needs the offense and operation and stuff to get him going because he's a great player. But they just don't have a whole lot of offense. It starts with that quarterback position because their defense is a championship defense. Yeah. But if Aaron comes back in December, is he really going to be good enough to win? I mean, it's Aaron Rogers, but we're talking to Achilles three months.

If I'm saying, if he comes back in December, I think so. I love that. I love rooting for that part of it. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Absolutely. Let's do good, bad, the ugly. Yeah, a lot of upside.

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Rattle off the upside. Let's talk about the upside for a second. Let's see. All right. I got Freds in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The hospitality of that place is incredible. Jack, what was the guy's name? I can't believe I keep a good guy's name.

Huh? Darren. Darren. Literally, 1 a.m. after Shat goes on, we're hanging out. We need to get an Uber back to the hotel.

He's like, hey, don't get an Uber. Can you guys all fit in my Tahoe? We're like, yeah, we absolutely can't. Drives us. Drives us to our meet and greet at walk-ons. Like, the dude is just an absolute homie. They had stakes for us on Saturday.

Guys all time. Good. Michigan football, obviously. Obviously, that was a big game. That was the most stress I've ever felt as a fan watching the game. I felt alive. I felt scared. I felt everything in between.

It was awesome. CJ Stroud, we've talked about them. Guys, an absolute stud. LSU's game day experience. Calling on Bat and Rouge. Suck that Tiger Dick, bitch. Like all that stuff I thought was, it's the truest form of football first mentality at a university.

The truest form I've ever seen. Lions, Deshawn Watson. and obviously the last good is Shaq and his family. Not just Shaq, but his son as well, the group he was with, everybody was super cool. I was already a massive fan of Shaq, but even more now. Yeah, me and Jack was, that was crazy. It was awesome.

He was a monster. He was a monster. Came up, gave me a big bear hug. Yeah, because you're always the biggest cat in the room, dude. And seeing you next to Shaq, it's just like, it is incredible. Like how big this man is. Even his son, his son's seven feet tall, right? Sharif.

Yeah. And when he's standing next to him, he's making him just look like a twig because Shaq is so wide, bro. That is, it's a grown man. Grown ass man. And dude, I've said this before. I said this at Fred's, but when I meet other tall guys, their go-to phrases like, man, I'm used to being the biggest guy in the room.

I was thinking, what a weird thing to say. But when I met him, I was like, should I say that for just some like filler here or what's the deal? You understand it now? Yeah, you understand it a little bit more. This dude came in and, and. Bear hug Taylor and put like his chin on the top of your head. Yeah. I said, no, no, no, no.

I went to like, I went to like get out of it. I thought someone was messing with him. He said, no, no, no, no. I'm like, yo, is this who I think it is? This is after we obviously met him the night before. And Shaq, you know, I'm not a big EDM guy. That went hard. That was awesome.

But that's my good. That's my good. Let me look here. Okay. My good. Josh Dobbs. Shout out the boy. I mean, he's just playing well.

And we didn't talk at all about, we didn't talk about the NFC, but to me, the Vikings are a playoff team. And that conference isn't a conference like the AFC. Like a lot of teams are going to be battled on there to the end with the AFC. Like, he can play out so many different ways. I feel like the NFC, you can kind of tell who's going to be in the playoffs. You got the Lions, in my opinion, the Lions, the Vikings are a playoff team. Somebody's got to come out of the South.

I'm rooting for Coach Arthur Smith, because I don't think the Saints. To me, that's the weakest, that's the weakest division in football. The West, the Niners are going to come out of it, probably the Seahawks. So you got two from the north, two from the west, that's four, then you got somebody out of the south. That's five. Two's got to come out of the east. I think it's going to be the Eagles and Cowboys. Like, to me, that is this, that's more of a cookie cutter, something kind of easy to predict. Yeah.

But yeah, man, Josh Dobbs, the way he's able to operate. Kevin O'Connell, I think it speaks a lot to his leadership and how they're kind of running things over there. It's the next man up mentality. They're embracing it. They're playing really good for. football. CJ Stroud, I mean, you go in. I was standing on the pro football football show to be the man.

You got to beat the man. And he, I mean, two weeks in a row now, game winning drives. Like, they are riding high. Coach Ryan's, he's got those boys lit up after the games in the locker room. You can tell that they're building something special there. The Raiders got to shout out the boys, the silver and black. The Raiders now two games in a row with AP at the helm. Victory cigars in the locker room.

They've done well. They've played some good football. I also had the chaos over the college football playoff. We talked about that. And then I've absolutely nutted all over the board over the weekend. 9, 3 and 1 in the pro football football show, 10 and 3 in slips and picks. If you're not going to hype yourself up, who will. But yeah, that's my good.

It's my shout to the good. That's awesome. That is a good move. What I didn't see the records for pro football football show. Because I think we're similar in a lot of ways, yeah? I'm not sure. I'll have to go double check. But I'm not going by myself.

Great job. Yeah. How did we do and bet the bus? Bet the bus, I believe, two and four. It wasn't good. Oh. I think two and four, maybe three and three, but I feel pretty strongly that we went two and four.

A humbling weekend. Tennessee really let us down. Yeah. I mean, not to, I'm not trying to throw salt on the wind. You know I, you know, I like root for Tennessee. I remember, we talked about this. Growth. Yeah.

That's right. That's right. That's right. My life anymore. Yeah. That was massive. Yeah. And I guess seeing any kind of, it's seeing that comment, old Jack saw that comment.

It's like, okay, he's trying to shit on Tennessee. I'm really not. To me, they let us down. That was a team that should have played way better at Missouri. I mean, they scored six points. That's the lowest. Is that the lowest in the hype era? Maybe, maybe.

I mean, definitely is the lowest we scored all season. Man, that was just, that was a bummer. Yeah. That was a bummer. Tennessee teams are bummers right now. But, you know. I don't think Oregon. Keep it moving.

I don't think Oregon fully covered against USC. I think they won by. 14 not it was it was part of worst bet the bus uh showing this year yeah because i don't have we went two and four at all i don't know i know we've been 500 a few times yeah 500 is worth showing yeah i'll take i'll take that one for the team put it on my back that's big of you jack yeah so bad yeah kicked off the bad two and four bet the bus uh i hate that we let you guys down i think we'll we'll come back firing you know every set up or every uh set back is just you know set up you know set up for a comeback, whatever that quote is.

Bad. SEC, just firing head coaches left and right. But the good, the upside, you should aspire to be a fired football coach. I mean, who can negotiate a deal. Yes. Yeah. A $76 million buyout.

That is absurd to not coach ball over the next six years. It was the six years, eight years. He's chilling. He's chilling. I mean, these ball coaches who get fired. McDaniels was another one. I think it was 40-something million was his buyout. aspire to be a fired

pro ball coach or college football a fired tenured coach yeah fired tenured coach there you go the big ten I got the big ten I think the decision that they had for the suspension was hardball was a bad suspension

either go all in or wait for everything else to play out and again the bad I'm going to go back like I know I'm going back to old wounds here but the referees against Michigan State against Nebraska if they don't see this domino effect that they've now created Nebraska's dropped two in a row, and I did think it started with the,

with the zebras at Michigan State. So that's my bad. I do have Nebraska in the bad, because dropping two in a row, and I feel, I didn't put them in the ugly for, because they're not out of bowl season yet, but they had three tough games coming up.

Two. They have two left. Two left. Yeah, and who is, Wisconsin and Iowa. Wisconsin, I think, lost two to Northwestern over the weekend. Minnesota lost. Did they?

If Minnesota lost, then that means we still have everything. out in front of us. Wait, no, no, Iowa. Iowa didn't lose. Yeah, yeah. Iowa, if they dropped the next two, though, and you guys went out and Minnesota did lose. Yeah, who's Iowa, Iowa is playing Illinois this week, which Illinois's been playing some weirdly tough ball. Yeah, yeah, Illinois beat Minnesota. You're right. Holy. So we need Illinois. We need Illinois. One, too. But go ahead, go ahead with the, I put them in my last one, only because, like, I know the expectation you have for your team was set at nine and three, nine and nine. Or a floor of seven and five, but,

My prediction was nine and three. And I feel like just the goal of getting out of the, you know, shitty football talk of Nebraska, just get bowl eligible. And then it's like you've got that monkey off your back, you can keep moving. And then look on the better things going into the rule area. So that's why they're in my bad and not the ugly yet. Because if they lose next week, it's like, oh, shit. We got to be a rival who you guys beat last year just to make a bowl game.

The bad, lack of sleep this weekend. There was a lot of moving parts from Thursday to get into Sunday. that was just, it was just a lot of no sleep. People who towed trailers 15 miles an hour under the speed limit. I was technically late to putting my kids, bringing my kids to school today, but the line was a little long to drop off. So I actually ended up making it.

But there's a level as a father when you're driving your kids to school and you take pride. I have a great street going when I drive my kids to school of getting them there on time and dangling, moving around. A lot of one lanes also. And that was that guy that sat in front of me almost ruined my streak.

My daughter, she was fighting tooth and nail, not to just put some, some ugly ug boots on this morning. And it's like, I just put the shoes on. It's all good. Like, no one's going to care. Like, I wish you knew how not big of a deal this was. And my last one was Nebraska. But a little bit of a fight this morning.

A little bit of a struggle, a power struggle this morning with my three-year-old daughter. We ended up winning the battle. And I feel real good about it. They were stoked to see dad because I know last week I tweeted about how they want mommy to put them to sleep. They want mommy to put them to sleep. I get home. I say, hey, who's putting you guys to sleep tonight?

They both screamed daddy. So that was, we're looking up in the family category right now. We are looking up. Yeah. As someone who doesn't have kids, do you want to be the one putting your daughter's sleep? Or is it more just like it feels good that your daughter wants you to be the last one to see you before?

You want them to want you to put them asleep. Gotcha. Because sometimes it can be, I don't know how it is for Rue, but for my kids, wins plug and play. We know what our things are. she does her thing, hey, no fuss in the night. She goes, you got it, Daddy, love you, see you later.

Willow, you're kind of in this three-year-old war right now where she's testing boundaries, and it takes a solid 45 minutes just to put her to sleep. And that's with negotiations, that's with mental fortitude. That's her and I going back and forth. What does she negotiate? What does she want? She does everything to play the game longer.

And this is a big one she does right now, is we go potty before bed, and then I get her dressed, we read the book, We snug. We do like our little thing because you want to keep the routine set with them all the time. Keeping the same routine so they can feel some sort of

stability when you go to bed. Jordan Peterson talks about that. But she's been doing the shit lately where you put the pajamas on her and you get ready for bed and you go to put her in her crib and she goes, Daddy, I have to go poop. And it's so frustrating because now I have to take off the footie pajamas which is a one-sy. Put her on there and then she wants to fuck around

for 10 minutes. And then finally she does shit and you're like, well, at least I let her. I would have felt bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a couple times here and there where she doesn't. Yeah. She lets out a couple of toots and she's like, I'm good. And I'm just like, all right, let's go to bed and kind of pick them up a little more aggressive than you usually do.

Kind of grab and shake him. Oh, yeah. Daddy almost fell. Daddy almost fell. Yeah, so they tripped. But yeah, you don't know where the cameras are. So that's a bit of, it's a hassle right now. And I think right when they get around two years old is when they finally figure out like, oh, I can, I can,

I can fuck around a little bit and make another 20, 30 minutes out of this thing. Hang out. Yeah, we'll see what the old Roo. Like, Rue is. She's more pro-mom on putting her to bed. Like, we'll set her down once we brush her teeth and do all that stuff and we're going over.

And she sees Daddy sit in the chair. She'll just look at me and go, bye-bye, bye-bye. And I'm like, hey, sweetheart, it's daddy's turning. Oh, bye-bye. No, mama. And she kind of does the waddle over to mom. Yeah, but the win for my wife, for Charles and I is

my routine goes faster with Rue. That is bad. Charles up there, she's in the room longer because I don't know, I don't know how Charles runs the operation. I am familiar with it a little bit. But to me, like, Rue doesn't get, she'd be like, book, book,

that we're not reading the night. I'm just kidding. We don't do that. Once we read and then she points and wants to go to the crib, and then she tries to finesse me by being like, you know, you want another hug, sweetheart, and so I'll pick her up and kind of rock her.

Then she'll point to the rocking chair again. And then once I go to the rocking chair, Once I sit there, then she'll try to be like, book, book. Like, no, sweetheart, no more book. It's quiet time now. We got to get rid of her for bed. And so I'll just hum and kind of do my little songs to her until she's like, all right, time for bed.

And I put her down and we're golden. You dip. Yeah. It's a good. It's a good, probably 20, 15, 20 minute tops. That's solid. But I am starting to experience the rue wanting mom over dad. And it's hard because it does, you may, like, you can look at it,

but then, and you'll understand it. And then a couple of times later. you'll be like, man, that does, I wish they kind of just want to hang out me a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you catch yourself doing a little bit more fun stuff. When discipline happens, it's like, hey, honey, why don't you go ahead and handle that? And it works. That actually works, by the way.

The dad's listening. You want to get upper hand. Make your wife discipline a couple more times and then be the fun. Be like, I don't know what she's being all crazy for. Like, you guys are awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come over here. Let them fight it out a little bit.

Yeah, but we're on the ups in the Lowen household as far as dad's concerned. So you want to ugly? The only ugly I had was Texas A&M, which we hit on. A&M having to hit that buyout. By the way, the guy flexing that dollar amount of $177 million for that giveaway that big check on the field. What a way to show your balls of how much money Texas A&M has. A question I did have, do we think Urban Meyer goes to A&M?

That'd be cool. You don't think so you don't think he gets out of the, you think he's just, you don't think he'll get that itch? Part of me is like, this is Urban Meyer, he's like one of those obsessed football coaches. He loves to win. He's a competitor. I just feel like he has that spirit that will eventually bring him back into the game.

And money talks. If you're able to do a $70 million buyout. Yeah. They can be, hey, name of your price. We've seen the product, literally, Florida, championships. Ohio State championships. Yeah. It's like proofs in the pudding.

And you bought up some good points before we came on the show. Comes into a solid roster, solid foundation, great fan base. NIL money out the air. at the ass. So you can just, whoever you want. Yeah, you can run that operation.

He can be that. He can be that guy. He really, you know, like all head coaches have egos. All, so the majority of people in sports have egos,

but we know it being on film and the resume of Urban and all the stories, he's got a huge ego. Right. So I think he'll, I think he'll come around once he gets bored

with all this, all this, mainstream TV stuff that he does. Yeah. And Michigan State's been calling for Urban Meyer forever. They don't have, I don't think they have the funds

to get him. No, they don't have the team. Like, that's not a situation. He's not trying to rebuild anything. Michigan States is in a really bad spot right now. Yeah, Michigan States. They're in a very, very tough spot.

I'll go quick with my ugly Titans. It's just, it's just hard right now. Is it over? Season over? Yeah. It's not, it's never, I mean. Bring up the schedule. Yeah, we can, let's do the schedule.

Every team that's favored it here, we should pick Titans a win. I think that'll be Jags I mean they beat the Panthers They could beat the Colts They could They could be the That's a tough

That's a tough That's a tough That's a tough back half Yeah The majority There's literally AFC South games Two teams that are

Good Now Jack I will ask you And not put Taylor In this spot Thank you Do you hope The Titans Lose out

So the draft pick is higher That's like Such a tough answer because as a fan, you never want to, like, pray on a loss. But strategically looking forward, I don't think people are going to be upset if we, like, are losing out. But I would never, like, if we saw the Titans win out right now, it would be awesome.

I'd be ecstatic. I don't want to see losses. But at the end of, in two and a half months, when the season's over, these losses don't mean as much when you have a much higher draft stock. Based on the product you've seen, it's almost like, we just got to get it. We got to get a line. Let's get a great, let's get a high, let's get a high draft.

We got to get some linemen that are going to go the distance. The protection is so scary right now. And like if we don't get that, you know, put in place, we're just going to continue to be in this like lull of eight and eight type mentality. And we'd be lucky to be eight and a this year. I don't know if it's possible. And so I don't want a tank, but... The next one at Jacksonville's tough.

Yeah. At Jacksonville, we in the season in Nashville. Jackson's almost back to back with Seahawks. Scary. Scary hours. The witching hour is here for the Titans. And I'm going to have a really good, I'm going to have a really good December. It doesn't matter what my teams are doing.

I'm going to love life. I'm not fucking love life. It's going to be. Hell yeah. That's, I love that. It's going to be a good month and a half for you to flex. There's new tools you've developed. Yes.

So I'm happy for you. Are you proud of yourself for leaving the O line in such disarray? Yes. No, that's crazy. Yeah. That's tough, though. You and Ben, we didn't get Ben Jones on here, too.

Are you guys proud of the fact that you love this team in such disarray on the offensive line? Man. Hit peace going. It is tough. I saw a couple clips because, obviously, all the two birthday parties I was at yesterday after that long travel day. The dad's are like, hey, man, you sued him. Back up.

Shut the fuck. They're like Titans, huh? Oh, I'm like, okay. They'll be all right. That's always my answer. My go-to. It'll be five. Yeah.

Either way, one way or another. But yeah, man, that's, uh, that's tough. Should we get into the Stevo podcast? I have one more question for you. Oh, yeah. Do you like drones? I do like drones. Are you going to Vegas this weekend?

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Yes. This is truly, this for me, was truly like meeting one of your heroes you grew up watching. The guy, the stories he tells, the laughs, the seriousness. We talk a lot about Bamar Jarrett. in his situation and what they've gone through, his process of trying to help BAM since he's battled addiction for so long. We tour his house in it.

Obviously, there's a vlog out on that. It's truly, this for me was like a holy shit moment. It was so awesome. I wish you were there. It was, I loved it, bro. It was so awesome.

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If we're ad free. Enjoy this post show interview, basically free of ads with Stivo. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. I am absolutely privileged to be sitting with you here today. I need to tell you a story before we get into. Our guest is the legendary Stivo from Jackass, from Wild Boys, from having a rap career, from doing comedy. The man fucking does it all, dude.

does it all. You want to be careful about dropping F bombs at the very top of it. That can get your yeah, dude. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bus with the boys. We have with us the amazing, the awesome stevo,

jackass, wild voice rapper. Does it all, man. And I do have to tell you this real quick before we start. I was in a situation. I was at UFC 290. I grew up a massive fan of jackass. And sitting in front of me was Johnny Knoxville. And I, dude, I literally sat there and I was like, bro, that's, that's Johnny.

Like I got, but I have a weird thing about giving people flowers like that in public because then you don't know how he's going to react or all that. He seemed like he was having a nice time with his lady. I missed that on the opportunity. So here I am sitting with you being like, dude, you shape my childhood. Okay. For the better or for the worst, I don't know. But you did it. Right now.

290, that was the BMF one in Salt Lake City. That was Las Vegas with... 21 was the BMF one in Salt Lake City. Who was a Balkan... Volcanovsky. It was... Right, right, right. ...it was awesome, dude.

But you... I forget where I was, but I certainly watched it. And Knoxville's a prank panel promo was strong. Strong. Yeah, it was a strong promo. I reached out to congratulate... I was in England still. I reached out and said,

Hey, Knox, uh, congrats on your promo, um, for, uh, the prank panel on the UFC. It looked great.

And check out my press. And, uh, and I was fording him from my publicist, uh, all of the press that I got for jumping off the tower of London Bridge. Yeah. And, uh,

there was a lot of it. I haven't scored a publicity jackpot. like that in quite some time. And Knoxville wrote back, he said, thanks for the congrats. And thanks especially for sending me, for compiling all 49 of these press links. You saved me a lot of work.

They have like this running joke that Knoxville would be mortified to ever, like, share a link to his press with anybody. That's just not in his DNA. And it's 100% who I am. Yeah. Has that become you over the years? No, no, no.

I've always been here. Oh, yeah, dude. There's nothing wrong with being an attention whore. You're sitting next to one right now. Yeah. I mean, can we agree that attention is the single most valuable commodity known to man? Especially at this day and age, no question about it. 100%.

It has been like, if there was a graph to show the value of attention, It has just done a hockey stick. Yeah, or a ramp like you have in your backyard right now. For sure. Dude, it's wild seeing the dynamic between all of you growing up and where you guys are all at now. Do you want to keep doing more stuff? Like, how long do you want to keep doing this gnarly shit?

I certainly have a finite time for the really high impact. stuff. I've just taped a comedy special, which I believe you guys are holding this episode to promote. And by the way, thank you for even considering doing that.

Possibly my bucket list special is already available as we're in the future when this comes out. But the bucket list, I got real high impact. I got real life-threatening. Like heavy stunts, man.

that would never have been allowed on jackass i properly raised the bar um five people passed out in the audience at the taping of no way yeah i mean it's not even unusual at all like we always have people pass out in the audience like uh we average a dude per night for sure we just have to have five of them pass out um at the first show of the taping three passed out at the second show of the taping but yeah it's it's heavy intense stuff and um now i'm putting together the follow-up to the bucket list, and that is even more high impact. And after that, I don't know. I don't know.

After that, you have to... The gone too far tour might be... Gone too far. There might be the song for really beating myself up. And if that's the case, that's fine, because I've really kind of diversified in my different ways of seeking attention. You know, like maybe a podcast, you know, like maybe podcast. Podcasting is going very well for me.

Yeah. YouTube is going very well for me. Stand up is going very well for me. And it doesn't always have to be this multimedia affair with me beating myself up. For now, I love it. But yeah, who knows? But when you do like Wild Ride, looking at something like Wild Ride, your podcast, you sit in there, the budget is not near what a multimedia, all the stuff you were doing.

Like, that's low risk and you still get some reward out of that. This is that big boom. You gave us seven minutes of that. And the intro is incredible. I don't want to say too much about it because I want people to go see it. I don't want to give away anything. The intro is amazing. I'm not too precious about letting people know what my creative is because, number one, there's nobody in the world who's going to copy or steal my ideas.

There's nobody willing to do them. And number two, even if you know, what happened, like, you know, seeing it is a wildly different story. And I've always made a very big deal out of opening sequences, you know, certainly with Jackass, we've always made a big deal out of it. My last comedy special, which was multimedia, like, it features the worst injury by far the most painful experience I've ever been through. For the opening sequence to that comedy special, I was duct taped to a billboard. truck and driven down the highway to Denver.

Oh, no shit. Home L.A.? Candidly, we pieced it together. I was genuinely driven duct tape to the side of a billboard truck from L.A. to Vegas. Once it got dark, we took me down. And then we picked up the rest of the Colorado footage, you know, piece by piece. But yeah, I mean, Knoxville's hitting baseballs at me after duct taping me to the side of a

billboard truck. It was rad. So I needed to outdo that with the over. opening sequence to the bucket list special. And I just thought, man, I want to find me on the roof of the building. You know, a helicopter above me drop a rope ladder and I grab the rope ladder and get flown all around dangling from a rope ladder from a helicopter, get crashed through a bunch of crazy stuff and end up dropping from the rope ladder onto the roof of my moving tour bus

as of an exercise in delivering me to the theater. And, yeah, and it was ambitious. It was expensive. It was dangerous, particularly the part where I dropped from the rope ladder onto the roof and the moving tour bus. Yeah. Like, that's just sketchy, man. There's no way around that.

And we made it happen, dude. When you do that type of intro, is it one of those things where, like, are you get picked up by the individual who's flying the helicopter, which is also a treat? Then you go do this. Then you dip in the pond. Then you, or you do that all in one fail to. Yeah, it was all like, like, like, uh, not one take.

Yeah, yeah. We, you know, like blast me through the lake and then reset and then blast me through the electrical wires and then reset and then, yeah. A lot of times people, when they have a thing, like you had jackass before that was Big Brother and then it evolved into everything that it became. Once it came to an end and you did, obviously Jackass 4 just a few years ago, you've done an amazing job of pivoting and rerouting, finding ways to, in our, in our, in our, in our, our words, seek attention and find new ways to, you know, keep building on this brand that you have.

What was your process to find podcasting, to find doing the bucket list and all that stuff? Well, first off, thank you for that. I appreciate that a lot. And with respect to kind of evolving and it's not been something that was since the last jackass movie. And I was more shocked than anybody that there was a fourth jackass movie in the cards. I mean, legitimately, like, I would have bet the farm that the ship had sailed. Like, for Knoxville to come out of the woodwork, 10 years after the fact and be like, I'm ready to go again, I couldn't believe it. But, of course, I was open to it, particularly because I had stayed so active.

for those whole 10 years. I was like, I mean, there's, like, we don't have to test me. Like, I know that I still have this in me because I've kept my doing dumb stuff muscles very strong. Yeah, my dumb stuff muscles. Yeah. And, you know, and, you know, I even said, I was like, what guys, like, you know,

I'm going to be doing this stuff, putting it on YouTube anyway, you know, I might as well do it for a movie. It was a no-brainer. And, you know, here we see. it in 23 and, uh,

you know, like, it's been 10 years. It was 2013 that I, uh, went on YouTube. Yeah. You know,

so back in 2013, like, uh, multiple people said, man, you really got to get on YouTube. You really got to start a podcast. And,

um, and when I first heard it, I thought, man, ah, God, I've been, uh,

in like, a few number one theatrical, you know, box office movies. Like, I've had, like, TV shows with my name and the title. Like, I'm a bona fide TV and film star. Like, you're talking to me about uploading YouTube videos. Like, man, that's a really depressing. It's an ego shot. Yeah, dude, it was tough for me to swallow the idea.

At the time, like, I didn't think there was money. And I, like, you know, when I would have to upload YouTube videos, like, you know, it felt like something that, you know, my ego told me it was beneath me. But, like, I did it anyway, you know. I did it anyway because I had been trying at that point in 2013 to pitch a new TV show. Nobody cared about it. At the last TV show that I had, like I got replaced, you know, this killer karaoke show. And that same year, 2013, Knoxville was making Bad Grandpa, which was under the jackass banner.

And it was like, we didn't even know what it was particularly. We were just like, wait, hold on second. Knoxville was making a jackass movie without any of us. Like, we got straight timber laked over here, you know. Now we're the Jackson Ford. Like I'm the fucking Tito over here like and uh it was just a really dark time and and um I was super super in a dark place and I just you know learned how to end my buddy Sam McGroney taught me how to edit I just made YouTube videos not because I thought that it was going to be a like a viable

like way to make money but just I did it just to try to keep my sanity yeah and the way that I went about getting on YouTube was like pretty highly strategic there were at the time uh youtube pranks were like the biggest phenomenon you had like these guys Vitale and Roman Atwood like clocking five million views every time you know and both Vitale and Roman Atwood uh they were they were excited to help me because they were fans of Jackass but the position that they were in on YouTube was way you know like so we were like we were like mutually like super uh excited to work with each other and i was starting at zero and and when i uploaded my first i uploaded two youtube videos the same time to launch the channel each video drove traffic to the other and i

I collabed with both Roman Atwood and Vitale. And both of their channels drove traffic to each of my videos, which drove traffic to each other. So it was highly coordinated. And I landed on YouTube, like, I think in 24 hours, I had 125,000 subscribers. Yeah, that is nuts. Yeah, I had, like, you know, hundreds of thousands of views, maybe like 200,000. views on each video. And like, they were like, USA Today, I think, wrote an article about how I landed on YouTube, like with such a crazy splash. And all of a sudden, you know, at the time I was touring

comedy clubs and I was still very green in that department. There was no indication that I would have any staying power on the comedy circuit. And I only had agency representation for comedy club touring, period. But once I landed on YouTube, I got, like, my lawyers reaching out, hey, I'm hearing from every, like, one of the big agencies, they're really dying,

they're clamoring to represent you in the digital department, you know? And like, huh? You know, and like, I'm taking meetings, and getting new agents to the agent I went with was like, hey, I can get you on a plane to Atlanta to be in a movie with Samuel L. Jackson tomorrow.

You know, and I was like, sure. Sign my ass up. Yeah. As I've come to learn that every time an agent wants to sign with you, they always have a really exciting, compelling reason to sign with them. And as soon as you're signed with them, they're done. They will lazily answer the phone if it rings. They will do nothing.

Damn. God, I hate agents. So you're agentless. Yeah, 100% agentless. How many agents did it take to get through to this point right here? And my touring agent became a manager. Yeah. And now he's trying to tell me that I need an agent as well as him.

And it's a tough one. It's a real tough one, man. It's a real tough one, but that's another story. And what I'm just saying is that getting on YouTube brought about a full, like, rebirth, like a renaissance in my career. It made me go from being in front of the camera and at mercy of corporate executives to do anything to like in control of every move. And that was huge. Also at the time, this is the crazy part, on that comedy club tour, at the end of every show, I said, guys, thank you so much for giving me a chance. stand-up comedy. And I want you to know now I am not going to go anywhere or do anything until I take

a photo with every single one of you guys is in the room. And so I would do a meet and greet with the entire audience after every single show. I did that for 11 years. In the beginning, it was for two reasons. Number one, like people were pleasantly surprised. They'd come to see me in a comedy club with just no idea, the lowest expectations you could possibly imagine for a stand-bub show. And they would be pleasantly surprised. Well, Steve-O was a lot better than I thought. And I wanted every single one of those people to go home with a photo with me so that they could post it on their social media and let their following know,

man, Stebo was a lot better than I thought. You know, like, Steve-O comedy is not a bad gig. And I think that that sort of grassroots approach to getting the word out, that, you know, I was doing comedy and I was doing it reasonably well, like, helped me keep going around the circuit. And the other reason I did those meet and grates was it was a, like, a glorified audition to find out, like, who I would act out sexually with that night. You know? Like, every night. Like, it was like, it was really, really intense, how egregious, how just how.

out of control, like I was as a sex addict, you know? Like, I had gotten a chemical sobriety, like, pretty stable. I was clean and sober for a number of years, and it just all, like, it was like whack-mole. I just, like, with the acting out sexually, it was gnarly. And it was 2013, that same dark year, you know, so I had, like, I'm in this dark place. I'm, you know, I'm the Jackson for I got no like my I'm over I'm done with ah you know and I'm just like acting out so um I uh you know I I thought I subscribed to the idea that for me to like have a good future like good back nine that I needed to learn how to be in a healthy relationship and have a life partner who could help me weather the horrible like scary becoming an aging attention whore

you know like and um and i i'm not going to act out anymore i promise myself no more fooling around on the road and i just couldn't do it man i just cracked every time started seeing a sex therapist you know sex addiction therapist he uh talked me into going into sex addict rehab like i did the whole thing man and in sex addict rehab they were like oh well like um what did the like what most like is most recommended is a period of total celibacy like you don't like Elvis does not leave the building

not on your own not not anything and that that's like a way to like kind of rewire your brain kind of and I'm like such a gnarly dude with everything I do you know they recommended like 30 to 90 days of celibacy and I did not blow a load

for 431 days. No shit. Straight up. I just made it into a stunt. You know, I was like, and then the whole rest of that tour became, you know, like, every show, I'd be like, I am blown alone in this, you know? Yeah. And, God, I was irritable, but like that that.

I was irritable. 490 days of just angry horny, dude. Yeah, I did not blow a load for the entire year of 2014. And for not. pouring a load that entire year, dude, I was a laser. Like, I was a grumpy laser. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. I was a grumpy laser and I just poured, like I started the year of 2014, I think, with less than a million Facebook followers. And I ended the year of 2014 with more than six million Facebook. No shit. Like I was the most productive animal. And again, I started YouTube in 2013. Mm-hmm.

So, 2014. I was just, that was the year that I went digital, you know. And I, and I, focusing that nut, man. That thing was going nowhere. All that power went to your brain. All of that power went into work, you know. And, you know, and I heard like a lot of people, you know, talking about finding the right person to settle down with it.

It's not find the right person, dude. It's become the right person, you know. You attract people who are as healthy, emotionally. mentally as we are. It's like water meets the same level of water. We attract the people who are as healthy as we are. And if we become healthy, we attract healthy. And now I'm engaged to be married and I put in the work. And I still don't have the distractions of chasing pussy around. Like I don't have the distractions of being wasted, drinking, doing drugs. Like, I literally don't waste time.

You know, like I don't waste time on shit. Like, I'm pretty largely always just laser focused on what I want to accomplish. And now I've got this great life partner who helps me accomplish things. So, like, it's pretty gnarly, you know. It's so awesome to hear that type of story because you hear so many times people, like, get into addicted personalities. And before they can save themselves, it's too late. and having an addictive personality and being able to channel that and focus on something for the better,

like it's almost better to have an addictive personality in a sense. 100% because it makes you, like if you take the drugs and the sex and you just focus on what you've become so successful in, like you're literally a story that every drug addict, every sex addict can look at and be like, oh, I could actually do this if I just focus this way. Right.

And I'm going to push back. It's number too late, man. You know, it's, it's, it's a thing. not too late, like pass away or something like that. Right. I mean, the thing like, man, I feel so strongly about this too. Like, um, the, the luckiest, like, I'm the luckiest you can be. And I, I feel so strongly about this that, um, with, with addiction, alcoholism, drug addiction, like, addiction in general, um, it's the only disease where when you treat it, you become a better version of yourself than you were before you got sick.

Any other disease, the best you can possibly hope for is to get back to as healthy as you were, but we become improved versions of ourselves, like the sober alcoholics, the addicts. And I'm just profoundly grateful. Like me and sobriety, like, say what you want. People would be like, oh, dude, you were funnier on drugs. Like, number one, I was not. Like, no. Like, I became fucking pathetic.

Like, you know, oh, dude, Steve was a pussy now. Yep. Again, not true. You know, like, I'm actually doing earlier things in sobriety than I ever did when I was loaded. Like, and the reality is that I am running circles around every younger version of myself, period. Oh, a production standpoint for sure. Yeah. And it's all because of sobriety.

Totally. In those early days, though, of finding, like realizing, okay, I have to get sober. I feel like what a lot of people don't realize with coming off something or anything is the level of boredom you first receive, that first 60 days, 90 days, you're like, it's just not as fun. Like, how did you counteract that for yourself? Because you know, like, we've all, most of us in here have been high. And we sit there and you do things for a couple of weeks and then you stop doing that thing for a couple of weeks. And then you sit there and you're like, this would be a lot more fun if I could smoke weed. or if I could take this.

Right. You kind of like, that's a game you tell yourself, and then you plead in a mental warfare back and forth. And I feel like a lot of people just can't see the other side of that. Absolutely, man. And that's a common thing. Like, there's the boredom thing. There's like the creative thing.

Oh, man, I feel like I can't write great songs if I'm not loaded. Or, like, you know, dude, I'm going to lose my identity. Like, you know, there's a lot of fear around all that. And I remember, I don't even know what year it was or what rehab or what, like, stage in BAM's, you know, in his journey that it was. But I remember BAM saying to me that, like, you know, man, I'm just like sobriety. It's just going to be boring, man. Like, I don't want to be bored.

It was that exact same thing. And I remember what I told him. I said, dude, recovery from alcoholism, like, getting into recovery. it's kind of like getting into a swimming pool. And I said, everybody can relate to, like, thinking about getting in a swimming pool and dipping your toe in the water, and your toe tells you that water's cold

and you don't want to get in. Right. And if you think you're going to go around to the shallow end and walk down the stairs, hold on, dude. Randy! Randy! hold the work we're recording

hold the work fucking Randy man we're recording okay yeah okay I think I can give you a seamless edit right here to not have that happen oh that's staying in

Randy's got to know what he's done we're gonna give his home address after this right he's gonna have to hear about that right now if you think you're gonna go walking down the stairs and the shallow end and gradually get into the swimming pool, you're fooling yourself. It's never going to happen.

Like, we all know that the way to get in that pool is to jump all the way into the deep end. And there's no way around it. When you land in that water, your first thought is, wow, it's cold. It's going to shock your system because you can't change your environment without shocking the system. But we can also relate to having jumped into the pool. feeling it was cold that it's pretty quick. It's shockingly quick how fast you acclimate. Like, everybody can relate to, man, I can't believe it felt so cold, like a moment

ago. And now I'm perfectly comfortable in the pool, you know, in the pool. And, you know, it's like that. And, you know, with respect to, oh, it's going to be boring, it's pretty easy to jump in a pool when you're on fire. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you're on fire, you're not going to have any issue jumping in the pool.

You're not going to care if it's cool because you're not on fire anymore. Right. You know? And that's really like how it is. And that's why they say that people have to hit a rock bottom because, like, rock bottom, like, your life has to get bad enough that you don't care. that boring sounds great compared to the hell that you're in. And that's what it was for me.

Like, you know, like bored, sure, anything but this. You know, when life gets so bad that you will welcome being bored, is anything but as bad as it gets, then that is what rock bottom should be. Now, the problem with this analogy, particularly as it really, to me telling it to Bam is that we can all understand that you just cannot go around

shoving people into pools and expecting them to thank you for it, let alone stay in. You know, like, and I tried to shove Bam in the pool, man, so many times. And he just doesn't want to be in the pool. Yeah, you bring up a good point. I mean, Bam, obviously, all this stuff going on.

I heard his rap. That shit was bad. be honest, that shit was really bad. I listened to it last night, like, one in the morning. And I was like, the best part was him basically, like, talking insulting you and we man about your skateboarding abilities. And then, Lo-key also saying, Alley, I love Stevo, but Steve-O. And like, you see it. And like I said, growing up as a fan, you don't expect when you watch Jackass for everybody to effort to work out, for everyone to be like, oh, these guys are going to be just fine when it's end. But seeing a guy like you with the story that you have

and seeing a hey, it is possible. at what point does Bam reach rock bottom? Because from an outside perspective looking in as just a person watching on the internet, it seems like he's just got too many yes men around him where it's like, hey, you're going to be all right.

Don't worry about this. Let Bam do it. Bam does. And he's got enough people around him that's maybe writing a check that doesn't want to lose that free meal. It's so perplexing, man. And yes, when you say yes, man, Like by definition, you're talking about enablers.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And it's true that most people in active addiction can only stay an active addiction with enabling. Yeah. You know, and it's such an insidious, like, disease that touches everybody close to the addict, that everybody's sick, you know?

And I really believe that it is enabling at the highest levels that allowed BAM's situation to progress as far as it had. But with that said, man, I've been clean and sober for over 15 years. And, you know, like I live in the world of recovery. And I don't think I've ever heard of a tougher case of somebody more. belligerently resistant to the concept of recovery. Someone who spent, he calls it the Florida Shuffle. The Florida Shuffle where like people are just recycling you through rehab centers and putting you back in and putting you back in.

Basically, I guess like it's some kind of a way to get insurance money to pay for it. But regardless of the reason, the fact is, Bam spent over a year. I mean, he's been in rehabs over and over. Like, he's been on a tour of rehabs and psych wards and jails for, for years now. And he was purely in rehab from, like, more than a year. And, you know, still just doesn't, like, like, get it. You know, you would think, like, what do they teach you in there?

like you don't you know but in any case uh i um i i don't i don't know i don't know like you need to change the scenery well there's been so many times where i saw his like the comedy club meltdown like the doctor phil you know business like the you know like the each thing worse than the next and i think like okay this is it you know i think okay this he's gotten bad enough for like this and it's not Like, it's just, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier. And I don't know what it's going to take, man. Maybe he's got to go broke.

Most addicts have to lose everything. For me, it was just how, like, truly humiliated. I humiliated myself into reasonableness. Like, I was the, I'm a douche no matter what. But I, how do you recognize being humiliated when you're as loaded as you say you were because i got uh and it's what a great question right there i i got locked up in a psychiatric word by knoxville right um shout out johnny yeah it was uh march 9th of 2008 and so my sobriety date is march 10th of 2008 we count our sobriety day is the first day we didn't get loaded and um you know i

was locked up in there like when when they got me to the psych ward like uh god i was an unlovely creature. I remember there was that they got me in the car and they cleverly showed up with like eight people from my intervention. So if I didn't want to go, like I was going to go anyway. And I've never been a fighter. So they got me in the car.

They drove me to the Cedar Sinai Hospital for the psych ward there. The psych ward was ready to receive me knowing that they had documented my qualification for California's 5150 law, which is You can lock somebody up involuntarily for 72 hours if they have presented threats to themselves or others.

And they get me to the hospital, pull up to the curb, and there's somebody waiting for me, like, with a wheelchair, for me to sit in the wheelchair and then to be able me into the hospital. I'm like, I don't need a wheelchair and I'm spit on the person. You know, like, like, I'm at a point where, like, spitting on people was not unusual. Yeah. You know, that was like, you know. No problem. No, I've been in a couple football games where some guys have received some saliva for me. A lot of backlash.

A lot of backlash. I was quick to spit on people. And, you know, when they were, and I was sure I was going to calmly talk my way out of this and that they weren't going to lock me up in the psych word. but like I was wrong about that. And as they're kind of processing me into the hospital, you know, I'm like, I don't know, but I know I want to smoke a cigarette. And like then like, I'm going to smoke a cigarette now. And like, you know, my next move is I'm going to grab a chair

and throw it in a temper tantrum. And like I don't even get, I don't even get a piece of furniture like off the ground before orderlies like just appear out of nowhere and just grab me and like slam me down on a table and I get a needle in my butt cheek and next thing, you know, I'm just waking up from a nap. Oh, my God. I think they caught.

In the straight jacket? They still ripping those things? I remember when they slam me on the table, they're like, mellow out or are going to strap you down? And I'm like on the claustrophobic side, so I'mllowed out. But like, but I got the boot. You draw the line.

Yeah, I got the booty juice, which is like, they put the needle in your butt cheek and then it's like sedative. I've got to forget the name of, it was something that I was looking into doing for a tranquilizer dart foot race. Yeah. Also counterproductive because it is a drug as well, right?

Right, right. I mean, I ended up making it a general anesthesia bike ride. Yeah. But that's in the bucket list special, the anesthesia bike ride. But, but yeah, so I wake up in the nap And the 5150 law says you can be held in a psych ward against your will for 72 hours, which is three days. But due to my belligerent behavior, they changed my status to 5250, which is two weeks.

And that was the saving grace because if they only had me for three days, I would have been right back to the drug dealer. But, you know, a number of different things happened over the course of my first week in the psychiatric. trick ward where you know I kind of a week was long enough for me to realize okay I got to do I gotta do this

and then next week was kind of just hey I'm ready to go and everyone's like sure well yeah I was seven I think I was on the seventh day in the psych ward and I was like all right I got to do this but to your point you know how do you know

that you're humiliated when you're that loaded I didn't you know I didn't I recognize that that I had to do this. But my best thinking at that point, what gave me the willingness to go to rehab, was that, man, if I get, I'm thinking, if I get clean and sober,

the world is going to owe me, man. You know, I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going to do a lot of good, man. I'm going to be like, my career's going to go, you know, I'm going to, like, I'm just thinking I'm going to get all this stuff out of it. Like, like power. and property and prestige,

that the world is going to shower me with cash and prizes if I am noble enough to get sober. Yeah. You know, like, and that thing, whatever it takes to get you in there and become willing. But what it was that actually revealed how humiliated I was, was this 12-step stuff, you know, like this 12-step stuff where we do, like,

an inventory about everything that bothers us, resentments, fears, you know, harmed on others' guilt. And we like break down each thing in this inventory to identify what our part is and how we created the problem, you know, how we're responsible for the mess. And where can we take accountability? Where can we? And it was like, once I saw my part and that I was the reason for ever, you know, how we're responsible. everything that was messed up in my life. Like that's where the humiliation kicked in.

And that's where the motivation to be sober went from all the cash and prizes I was going to get to, I just don't want to be that douchebag anymore. Yeah. You know, I don't just, I do not want to be that guy anymore. And I started doing it for myself for the right reasons. And thank God because there are no cash and prizes for just getting clean and sober. Right. Like it was years.

that nobody gave a rat's ass if I got clean and sober now, like people think it's kind of cool. Like, oh man, the way Steve-O turns life around. But in the absence of productivity and giving people a reason to even contemplate my existence, nobody cares about I'm clean and sober. Because you could have just really sat around in this nice house and like, I'll fuck off, get fat and whatever.

I'll skateboard on my cool-ass ramp downstairs. This house didn't come along until 2014. I got sober in 2008. I bought this house in 2014. So you did Jackass 3? Comedy paid for this house. Dude. Fuck yeah.

Comedy clubs paid for this house. You did you do Jackass 3 and 4 sober or just 4? Yeah, both three and four. So when you're, first off, there's got, I want to just, I'll say one point about that, the last things we just talked about. Like having the fear and anxiety of all the things you've done other people must be a horrible feeling. But on the flip side, what an incredible feeling it is to see all the things that have happened to you in your life, realizing it's you and realizing how in control of your life you actually are. That has got to be one of the most beautiful yin yangs that you probably experienced throughout that process.

It really takes a lot of what am I trying to say. It gives you a lot of control. If you just look at your own side of the street, if you just worry about what you can control. If you acknowledge that you cannot control other people, places, and things, and stop blaming other people, places, and things, and take responsibility for your own situation, that's, I mean, for Bam, that's his number one crux of his whole thing, is that it's everybody else. It's never his fault. It's evidence. He's just blaming everything on every. It's Knoxville and Tremaine and the bones.

and, you know, and Nikki, and she drives me to drink, and it's everybody but bam. And I really, really, like I said, it's never too late. It's not too late for Bam. It's never too late. Like, and if, just like a, it would be like flipping a switch. It would be that simple as flipping a switch if Bam could just like take accountability. You know, just stop blaming everybody else.

You know, look at your own side of the street. Do the inventory work. Is the BAM thing as heavy on? your heart as it seems sitting here with you for this past 30 minutes. It's pretty gnarly. Yeah. It's pretty gnarly, man. I mean, it's...

One of your closest friends for so long. I mean, he's family, no. And, uh, it's crazy. It's just, it's gotten to a really, really serious level. Yeah. Especially when you get into your filming Jackass 4 and I don't know all the details, but him essentially not being able to be a part of it. Yeah.

Jackass 4 came up, I thought, wow, it's crazy. And Oxo wants to do another Jackass movie. But, like, I had been saying, like, you know, Bam's not in a place where we can really do that. I was thinking that, you know, and they were like, oh, well, I think they viewed it as, like, as kind of a last attempt to help Bam. It's like, all right, we're going to, we'll make a movie,

and give him the chance. Yeah. You know, like, and that's how gnarly the disease of alcoholism is. It's so gnarly that you can give somebody like a guarantee of millions of dollars. And even that's not enough to get something. It's over. Sit and pissing a cup. When you were working through your sobriety and you go from Jack S2, you're loaded,

Jack S3 comes, were there fears in your head or insecurities? You're like, oh, am I going to be able to do X, Y, either way I used to. How'd you get over that for you're just diving in? Like it seems like you're doing everything? Or was there a dip in the toe here and there? I had some doubts about whether I even had it in me.

But like once I was in, like it was so important to me. Like it became like a real thing that I wanted to prove that sobriety didn't turn me into a pussy. Even though on some level, it did because at that time, I was like, new, I was newly vegan. I was like newly like exercising, like really, really careful about what I ate. And, like, I was just, I wasn't killing myself anymore.

It was 2008 was a gnarly, gnarly time to go from like sure that I would be dead in short order. And I never. expected to live very long in the first place. So like the whole first, you know, decade of my career, like, if you count, it started as a clown. Like, I never, it never occurred to me once to invest anything, to save anything to, like, because I had nothing to save for it because I was so convinced that I was going to die young. Like that was almost the whole point of being Steve-o was to die young. So then along comes 2008, where in March, I have this intervention.

Now I'm like, you know, I'm doing the inventory work. I'm taking accountability. I'm seeing my, I'm really on fire for recovery. And now I'm not killing myself anymore. It's important to me to conduct myself in a way that, you know, the works for recovery, which means now, like, for the first time ever, it's striking me, holy crap, I might actually not die like really young. Like I might be staring down the barrel of like many more decades of life on this earth.

And as I'm realizing that, I don't even know if I can like even continue. you this career in the entertainment industry because everything they're telling me about recovery is that you have to deflate your ego you've got to practice spiritual principles in all of your affairs like you got to do the right thing when nobody's watching you got to like you know none of that seemed to like fit with being stevo from jackass yeah So it called into question everything that I had ever done professionally. Like I didn't know. Like how am I going to deflate the ego and be an entertainer?

You know, like mutually exclusive concepts. So I didn't know. And going back to the point of maybe life would be boring. Like I wanted so badly to not hate myself and to not be humiliate that like even if like, that's how it's got to be. Like recovery is your number one. priority. So, like, I didn't even know if my earnings potential existed anymore. Yeah. And now I might be alive for many more decades. That's scary thought. And then comes September 2008 and what savings

I did have are decimated. Yeah. Also, good and bad thing because you weren't saving very much anyway, right? So you didn't really take much of a hit. That's a positive. I paid zero attention. Yeah. Like, I had a business manager. I had my dad. I wasn't broke. But I just never looked. I never even looked at anything, you know? And I think that, like, at the time I got sober, I had, like, three million bucks. And after 2008, I was, like, barely a million. After the financial crisis, like, it was, like, more than a half of what I had was gone,

as well as potentially my earnings potential as, you know, as, like, it was, it was... It really crossroads. Pretty creepy time, yeah. And so when Jackass 3 came along, it's not like I was going to not do it, you know? And in between getting sober and Jackass 3D, I dipped my toe in the water by doing dancing with the stars. Yeah. Just to see if like. How'd that fair for you?

I hated it. Left feet. I hated it. And yeah, I hated it. It made me so uncomfortable. It made sense to do it because, like, I didn't have to be crazy. I didn't have to take risks. like I could rehearse right down the street

and it would get me in front of the camera so I could just determine if that even made sense in sobriety. Yeah. And what I didn't factor into my decision to do dancing with the stars was like being in front of 20 million viewers. At that time, TV was still a thing. Yeah. You know, like at that time, you couldn't watch video on a cell phone, I don't think.

You know, like at that time, 20 million people were watching Dancing with the Starvation. stars and I was palpably uncomfortable. And I remember, like, it was like more of a test for my sobriety than it needed to be. Yeah. I reached out to some people in recovery and I was like, I'm not okay. I'm not, I'm not okay. And I was told, all right, sometimes you're not going to be okay.

That's just how it is. But when things are not okay, the one thing that will always help is to connect. conduct yourself as a gentleman to do the right thing because even when like nothing feels good, at least you'll have that to feel good about. Yeah. You know, little things. Make your bed. Be a gentleman.

Right. You'll be I. Right. And then Jagass 3 came along and it's like, all right, I'm not going to turn down like only the third good job I've ever been off. You know. And I went and do that. like I care about my health and my well-being and you know so I made a rule like I laid down

the rule that like guys I've survived enough at this point that I just don't have a sense of humor for dying or becoming paralyzed over a stupid stunt but if like evident risk of paralysis or death is not part of the equation, I will not back out of anything. That's scary. It's pretty remarkable how much that actually takes off the table. But I got through that whole Jackass 3 without compromising on my rules. I didn't make it through like a week of Jackass 4 without breaking those rules. Yeah.

And Jackass 3 before we get to Jackass 4, what was the scariest thing for you that you had to do? You know, like, the most anxiety I remember having, going into a bit was the stupid electric avenue with the, um, the, um, yeah, with the, yeah, I don't even have. I don't think it was a hotel. I think it was like just the jackass offices, but it was a little hallway with like a bunch of, uh, Like stun guns dangling, like cattle prods dangling. And it was just like I didn't want to do it, man. Like my, my, you know, my instincts really wanted me to not do that. And I remember saying like, I feel like I'm going to pass out.

I have so much anxiety. But like, but I muscleed through it. Ripped over there and did it. Yeah. Like, yeah, I was gung ho. And the other thing, too, about like being creative. Like, I don't think that there was one single, like, idea I wrote for Jackass Number 2 that even got filmed.

Oh, really? Yeah, I was like, I was a mess, dude. I was like, dude, I'll get a tattoo of a cigarette coming out of my lips with smoke rising up my face. Like that would, right? Yeah, that was one of the ideas. That's a mess. And dodged a bullet on that one.

Yeah, like, I mean, I just didn't have, and I wasn't particularly brave as loaded as I was on Jackass number two. Like, I went out on. Hell of shit. It seems like you were like a big sniffing poop like definitely all you always think of throwing up.

It was always the thing. Did you ever catch heat for that? 11 year old Taylor thought that was soft. I don't now. Oh wow. But 11 year old Taylor was like, yo, this guy's always throwing up.

What's the deal? Why is the stomach always like this? You never caught any heat for that? Oh, like soft because like you're like you get the weak stomach for sense and. Yeah.

Oh, man, it never occurred to me that that was, I mean, maybe if like that's my go-to instead of gnarly, like, stand in front of a bowl, like, I get that being soft, but soft because now, like, what it was is just having a really vivid and powerful imagination such that I'm a a terrible premature ejaculator if I find something sexy and if I find something gross like it's just like yeah like all I need is just the idea of something being gross and I'm basically already barring up yeah less so less so in recent years than than in the past but yeah that's just what it was like I never felt soft because I was such a hair trigger on barfing yeah I get I mean I get I'm genuinely resentful at the Guinness Book of World Records for not acknowledging my undeniable world record for having barfed on screen in both television and film far more than anybody.

They haven't recognized you at all. No. They've snubbed me year after year and I'm sick of it. Yeah, it's time. It's time. I know. I mean, dude, like it could not be more demonstrable. Every time somebody barfs in television or film

It is so obviously fake They put something in their mouth and they just spit it And when I barf on television and film It is clearly real And nobody has come near I mean retroactively I really demand justice This is the platform for that to happen

Our people will definitely say something Yeah They will definitely get after that I'm not even asking a lot I could have a scroll with 100 world records. But I'm only going for the most absolutely rock solid, demonstrable and undeniable and impressive world record.

Maybe your piece also being on a big screen. No, your piece. Oh, my piece. No, that's Ponny's. He's got me by a mile. He always had a nice little elephant wrapped around or something like that, a nice little banana hammock. No.

Ponies has got you on that. I think Ponty is. I mean, especially after Jack I was four with that opening. sequence? Yes. It's so funny. I was like, what are they doing?

That might have done a little bit more harm than good though because I think a lot of a lot of a lot of males are not quite as comfortable

with their sexuality as we are and you hit them with that much dong that quick a lot of males are going to kind of like you look at it

and you're sitting there wondering what the fuck's going on like why is there a military and then you see see the penis, you're like, we're fucking back, boys. Jackass is back. Like, their fans are like, yes.

I need a good peace in our life. I view it more as like kind of like, hucking a stick at a bunch of seagulls. A lot of them are flying away. Yeah, a lot of them. A couple three, though, see, eh? What's this thing going on? What's going on around here? Right.

You said in Jack S2, you didn't, all the things you did right didn't happen. Jack S3 creatively, how involved for you? I wrote the fuck out of Jackass 3. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. How much pride did you take in that? I loved it, man. I loved it because, number one, I was able to, like, sit down in a writing session with Knoxville, you know, because, like, the sober version.

I was about two years sober at that time. And already, like, my relationships with the other jackass guys were just a lot more. They benefited from a lot. Like, like, me wasted on code. like it was just like it was just too much nobody to say people could only handle me in small doses as putting it mildly you know so it was uh it was uh it it really really helped all of my relationships to to be sober and accountable and and like you know kind of focused and so i would sit down with knoxville and uh you know and all the guys and and right ideas i remember like

the cover of the 3.5 DVD with the Mentos and Soda War. Yeah. I came up with that one. Like, I don't know. I wrote a lot of ideas that, uh,

that, that all happened, you know? One thing you guys did that was like a genius idea going from three to four is introducing new members. Like that has given you guys the ability to allow that to kind of live on past what you're, after you're done doing this tour,

you say you'll do this and one more. And then after that, you don't know. Yeah. You seem like as I'm presenting that question to you, that there are some mixed reviews on how you feel about that. I don't know that everybody, you know, I don't know that everybody felt that the new cast was a hit.

I know that the OG cast when the idea of bringing in new blood, younger, fresher faces. Like 100% of the OG cast was not stoked about that. Yeah. You know, like telling a bunch of attention hoars that now they're going to share the... Share the stage with younger guys from willing to do whatever they can on a platform that's already established. Right. And that was just a...

Something that they felt super duper strongly about. Who's that when we say that? Like the powers that be being Knoxville, Jeff Tremaine, and Spike Jones. Those guys are the three creators, the powers that be. And I get it. I think that they were right. You know, we needed some help lifting, you know. Like, I think that if I'm conflicted about it, the idea of, I mean, for me, like my biggest fear in the world.

is like to be famous and broke. Yeah. You know, like, and, you know, I'm not by any means like, trying to try to be judgmental or negative. I just, I'm very sensitive to the idea of giving, putting people on a platform like that and giving them.

you know and they're just not not being compensated yeah so you're making them like principal cast members and a bona fide like maybe not blockbuster but legit Hollywood franchise huge fan base people that are going to see you know it's going to make money right and like and and and their compensation isn't there you know so like then add on top of that that uh you've been writing their ideas for them, you know, like, do we know that they have the ability to manage that level of opportunity that you're handing them? You know, like, it's just, it's just, you know,

like it's a really, really dark way to put it, but like I sure wasn't a fan of that bumfights thing. Yeah. Yeah. It is like, it seems like a long play is... I already feel bad for saying that. No, you know, speaking, just talking about a fear that's crossing to your mind is nothing... Yeah, I mean, like, I love the new guys. And with that said, like, I have that sensitivity. And I've done, like, everything that I can to try to help them. You know, like, with, like, developing YouTube,

videos, like ideas, like merch designs, like websites, like, you know. You have a big rain on all of that. You do a great job and take every opportunity to promote all that stuff, which is what you got to do. Yeah. With these, how long after when you heard, I don't know who told you, if you even want to say, hey, we're going to add new blood to this cast, how long did that resistance go to cooperation?

resistance was futile Yeah It was going to happen It was going to happen Whether we liked it or not How long were you like mad about it Until you were like all right I mean nobody was going to turn down

A movie deal And Like So everybody was in And there was going to be a new cast So whether we liked it or not It was going to happen And I would say that

That the sentence changed just on the very first day of filming. Like the, you know, all the new cast members just brought good energy. They were just so visibly stoked to be there. Like, it was impossible. As much as we wanted to not like them, it was impossible to not love them right away. And, you know, between all of us, the chemistry was, you know, it's like we never stopped shooting. like, you know, the laughs were there.

The energy was there for sure. How much did you feel the absence of Bamar Jura during that whole thing? I mean, he was there for the first week. Like, we managed to film for one week. He was only there at the tail end of that week. I think he shot maybe like two days. And then at the end, he shot the last two days of the first week.

And then the pandemic shut everything down. Yeah. So we went into hiatus from March all the way through October, which is like, what, like six months or something? And Bam had these stipulations that he wasn't allowed to get loaded. But like, I don't think that was going to happen anyway, but it definitely wasn't going to happen like being on hold for six months. Right.

you know and and uh like when he was there for those two days like to me it didn't really feel like like bam as we knew him yeah you know like it was a little bit of a shell of uh bam um and then like during those six months of pandemic when he was fired uh i was the one more than anybody campaigned painting to try to get him back on the movie. I was like, guys, like, the answer here,

I don't think is to scrub him entirely, you know? Like, I think the rationale for firing him entirely was that, like, he was a liability and that if he had some disaster, it was going to reflect poorly on the movie and the franchise. But I'm like, guys, to be realistic, you know? You can't make a family member not your relative. Whether he's 100% fired from the movie or not, you are not going to mitigate his attachment or affiliation. Pretend like he never exists or something.

We can't pretend like he never existed. And like, yes, by all means, penalize him for, you know, breaching his agreement with sobriety. But don't remove him completely. Just you know, have like a lesser role. Like reduce his involvement reduce his compensation.

But don't entirely remove him. Because if you do that, then when we get into promoting the film, like we're even going to be able to promote the film because we're going to be dealing with questions, oh, well, bam, you know, like if you reduce his involvement, if you reduce

his compensation and anybody says anything about bam, it's like, oh, well, no, he is in the movie, like next question. Yeah. You know, like, and then the other level of like, dude, what are we doing to, uh, just imagine, like, I mean, I remember how awful

and how traumatized I was by the bad grandpa's situation where I felt like the Jackson 4. And that was me along with everybody else in the cast. You know, and that's how much it traumatized me. And it wasn't

even a jackass movie. Yeah. Like now... You're now projecting those same fears, being like, Bam's probably going to feel this way and go through that. Yeah. Now imagine what we're doing to Bam by singling him out and he's the only one. Now, like, he's

Dave Mustain. you know like kicked out of Metallica yeah you know like um that that that's a heavy and gnarly thing and and I wasn't you know trying to project or as but like heaven forbid anything really gnarly happens like and and we did that you know like so so me the sober nerd I was the biggest, like, most outspoken person campaigning on BAM's behalf to get him back in the movie. Yeah. I was trying my ass off. Like, I was, like, I was scripting texts for him to send it to the powers that.

Bam? To try to put the appropriate words in his mouth to sway their opinions. No way. No, I was like, yeah, I was doing everything that I could. And it just, you know, and like it got to a point where we had, like, a Zoom meeting, you know. There was, like, between Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones, there was like, like, almost like a, like a podium, like bronze, silver, gold, like different levels of okay, you know, like resistance. Yeah, you get the next one, you go the next one. Different levels of resistance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then bam back on. We got to a point where all three of them. We're going to have a Zoom call with Bam. And it was like almost just a formality of like, okay, we're going to give me another chance. You're coming back in. Right. And that Zoom call, like, bam, that's the nature of alcoholism.

You find the worst possible time to blow everything because he no-showed that Zoom call. No. After appearing all over social media just visibly intoxicated. Like, there was no question. about where he'd been the night before or what shape he was in and he did not make it onto that call and that was that the purpose of that call was to be like okay you're back and he blew it no way after you put all that work in of scripting those texts and everything i did it all about myself no no doubt but i was putting all that working from just from watching from your angle i was i was pushing for it man i didn't think it did the franchise any good to make it a big thing about firing him and and the powers that beef felt that, and they're not wrong. They felt that the reason why Bam has, like, progressed so far in his illness is because he's never had any consequences.

He's always had everybody shield him from his consequences and, you know, everything's been okay. And for the first time, they were going to, like, put some teeth in what they said. Yeah. And then they're not wrong. They're not wrong, but it's high stakes game. It goes back to the enabling. And then, but it also, not only you stop enabling Bam, but now you're,

putting a whole bunch more on your y'all's plate when you're promoting this movie and the same thing happens you just said or where's bam what's going on bam you don't want that to be the main storyline of jack s four right i mean and uh and and it it it was like when when like every other week or whatever it was that there's a new TMZ thing and they're in doing bam he's like oh and then bam sues him like that was the most absurd lawsuit i remember talking to him because i was i was I was talking, I was, I was like Switzerland in the whole deal, the whole time. You know, I was the one guy that, that, uh, which is so wild too being the most sober guy there. Yeah.

Like, hey, this drug act, we gotta keep this guy fucking in here, man. Right. Yeah. Right. And I remember when the lossy thing came up and I was like, bam, you know, I'll tell you what, dude. Like, go for the bag, you know, by all means, like, go for the bag. But, but separate. And I said to you, I said, if you can actually manage.

to get anything out of suing, my hat is off to you because you sir have no case whatsoever. Like this is like everything that's wrong about the civil like lawsuit like society that we live in where it is like it is a no brainer to throw money at it to just avoid legal costs. Yeah. Because, like, his case was pure bullshit. Like, demonstrably false. Yeah. Like, it was so meritless and so factually incorrect,

everything that he was claiming, that I cannot believe he even managed to get any kind of a settlement. I can't even believe that it wasn't just dismissed with prejudice. like out of the gate. That's nuts. Yeah, he probably did. He sat there and he was like, they'll see, man.

When I take this franchise down, you have nothing, brother. He got, like, he got a chunk of change. And it wasn't like a particularly impressive chunk of change. And as I understand it,

like a whopping percentage like above what's normal went to the lawyers. And then like what remained, stupid asshole turned around and bought, like a Bentley. Like, you dumbass, why did, you know, like, oh my God.

That's the serious thing when you have like this, this, this, this need, this, like, ego-driven need to, like, keep up appearances. Like, how many, like, when, when, when you're trying to keep up the appearance and you can't really, like, you don't have it like that, but you're, but it's really important to pretend that you do. then you're in a really scary

I come from that world with football sports athletes in general man like the documentary broke God that's you talk about biggest fears yeah I stared down that barrel every day and I'm like please God do not let that happen to me yeah for whatever reason but you see guys

you come playing the league they're a rookie they're undrafted they're making like a small amount of money for the NFL and they're pulling up in the Bentley's they're pulling up in the Maybacks and all that stuff you're like dude you don't need to do this right I think that they've like brought in some kind of like

regulatory system where you have to like have some kind of financial education. Yeah, I mean, not with the NFL, I think with all this all NIL stuff and I don't know how much you know about that, but like the college players

who now use their likeness and there needs to be some, this kid from USC, Caleb Williams, he's making $3 million this year as a college athlete. And there needs to be something put in there where it's like, this is how you, diversify your portfolio. This is where you handle this. Like, give them the basics. Well, okay. Like, we don't need to totally get sidetracked here. But if you're only a college athlete,

presumably you're early enough in your career. And if you're making that kind of money as a college athlete, it's probably a pretty safe bet that you're going to go pro. So you can do what LeBron did where you learn from your mistakes early. And then by the time you're, you're, you're, in the pros, you've already had your growing pains. And that's a phenomenal point. However, not LeBron. Yeah. And you kind of sit there and you're like,

he goes out and I hope this does not happen. Gets injured. Career ending injury. Something happens. That $3 million is all you've got now. Sure. NFL, the average in the NFL is two years. And if you're, and everything slated. The average NFL player plays for two years. And you don't, and 80% of them go broke.

Five years. And the NBA is even crazier. Even crazier. And that money's even bigger than the NFL. So you get this kid who has $3 million. I would just say, put him in a situation where he knows the basics. Do the $3 rule. $1 goes to paying taxes.

$1 goes to your house. One dollar goes to what you want. You're good. Make him watch Billy Corbin's documentary entitled Broke. Yes. It's so gnarly. It's so heavy. Especially because football is such a wild world where dudes come from all over different

demographics and everything. For sure. Guys are more educated in other spaces. So it is one of those deals where I hope it all works out, but you need to get these guys a little bit of guys. If you would have gave me $3 million in college, first off, half of it would have gone up my nose. And I wouldn't have been fucking going crazy.

I probably would have died. There was no way I would have been able to handle that situation. Yeah. But yeah, we did get a little side-trick. This is not about me or football. Yeah, it's all good. And I mean, like, at the end of the day, it's just really scary what's going on.

Like, I'm not saying that the powers that B did anything wrong. I had, like, uh, their, their heart was in the right place. And for all of BAM's crazy accusations about how they screwed me and this, like, uh, like nobody has, and unilaterally, not one person has wanted anything for BAM, but the best for him. Yeah. Be happy and healthy. And everybody's got a different approach to how.

they think that they're going to help BAM become happy and healthy. And not one of these people can do shit because it's up to BAM. Yeah. It is one of those things. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Yeah. One person you've brought up a lot in this, and I basically started the show with giving flowers to Johnny Knoxville.

Where do you think this franchise would be if it wasn't for Johnny? Because you hear about the MTV, and he says, well, fuck you guys. I'm not losing the integrity of the show. Right. And gets you guys a movie deal and essentially turns Jackass into what it is today. Like, how pivotal was that man in this whole entire process?

Oh, 100%. That's why I call him the captain. Yeah. You know, I really, really revere him. And, you know, as the, you know, Johnny Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones, it's really like the dynamic for me.

Like, Johnny Knoxville is like the older brother who can do no. wrong. Like, he's just, like, the older brother that you worship and you want to, like, you know, he just look up to him, you know. And Jeff Tremaine is, like, the father figure. He just want to make proud, like, you know, like, the most important thing is just, like, make him proud. And then Spike Jones is like, you know, it's embarrassing to say, but, like, he's got this, like, deity, quite, you know, like, he's, like, beyond father. He's, like, he's, like, he got a holiness to him, you know, where, like, like, all three,

of them put together are absolutely the three people who it means the most to me to try to impress you know like praise from them means like all three of them are like incredibly receptive to

and supportive of every little YouTube video like book like comedy special everything that I do they hear about like I'm pretty persistent like with, you know, sharing my press. Yeah, you have 49 articles coming off the Apple Tower.

You know, and they've just all been so supportive of me. And I think that, you know, I think that I can comfortably say that they're all, like, quite impressed with what I've managed to accomplish. And I'm profoundly grateful for that. That's awesome. That's incredible.

Do we want to hit some tear talk with Mr. Stivo? Cool. me take a leak and that's a perfect time. So we do segments on our show and one of them's called Tier Talk and as you're in the bathroom we were talking about what we should do for Tier Talk I feel like the best thing to do is best character stunts

and you're going to give us your top three. All the jackass movies, all the stuff could have been something that didn't make the cut. Dude, I But you got to start at three. Okay, I made a YouTube video at one point called my top 10 favorite jackass bits, which I was not in.

Yeah. And it got a strike for my channel on YouTube. Hell yes. Because it didn't occur to me that there would be a problem with me saying, let me show you what wasn't allowed on jackass. Yeah. You know, like I went and, uh, showed some stuff that, you know what I mean?

By the virtue of me saying this was not allowed on TV, like it's like, well then why the fuck would it be allowed on YouTube? You know? Like, and so yeah, I caught a strike for that. But yeah, am I going

with per cast member? I think you can do whatever you want. My thought is your top three of like whoever could be you could be somebody else. Top three Stunts. Okay.

With, with Jackass, there's like very distinct lanes. You know, there's like painful. There's dangerous. There's gross. And there's like

just sort of absurd. You know, like, and, uh, And I think it's been very masterful, like how, you know, you can't stay in one lane for too long. Yeah. You got to change, you know, like just the, the strategic order, you know, and like whatever's, like, super gross. Like, you know, on the TV show particularly, like, make that the final bit. Yeah.

Because, you know, you're going to lose a lot of the female audience if it's so gross. Yeah. You know, so there's like a lot of strategy. And I mentioned that because what I thought was so genius. I mean, yeah, I would have landed in the prank lane, you know? Like this lane is in pranks. But it was just so unique and unsung was Knoxville's taxidermy bit. There was a hidden camera prank where Knoxville went into a number.

of taxidermy businesses with this elderly woman who he named Dottie, Dorothy. And Dorothy is supposed to be like 90 years old, and she looks every bit of it. And Knoxville goes in and, you know, the taxidermy, all the animals are all over the place. And he says, hey, this is my grandma, Doddy. and sadly she doesn't have much longer with us and we're just here to inquire if she could be stuffed and mounted like can you stuff and mount my grandma

who's standing right next to me oh my god lying and can you and it just it was just so genius man And, like, you know, one place said, like, I don't even think that would be legal, but, you know, but, but, definitely, I don't even know how we would cure the skin. Like, all this, like, going into it. Yeah, going into it. Like, then, and then there was, he actually got a quote.

He actually got a quote. They're like, I don't know, like, off the record, I think, like, 20 G's. And, like, you know, she's like, she's standing right there. Like, to me, that was the most genius. genius bit. Yeah. It was just like everything in the lanes like all kind of like if you stay in one lane too long everything starts feeling like very similar.

And like there's no number of pranks you could put back to back where that wouldn't stand out as like that is so funny. It's genius and unique. Like so I think taxidermy is up there. certainly for the prank. I mean, there were some good-ass pranks. Like all the fake baby ones were really good. And credit to Dave England for starting off the fake baby phenomena.

You know, he started it with daddy and baby, and the fake baby was on the bicycle seat on the back and he would crash the bicycle. And then they just kind of took that, ran with it. They did a million fake baby ones. But as good as they were, they weren't just like, man, that taxidermy. I think that's my favorite prank of all time. As far as like the stunts, I mean, Dave England, man. I'm going to give Dave England credit for being just so goddamn creative, man. Like he always, he just thinks in a way that other people don't think. He had like

skateboarding in like a rolling, you know, full pipe that's going down the hill, like rollerblading on a skate, like he just, just this quirky stuff, you know, love all that. And then Knoxville's, of course, the gnarliest. Not everything Knoxville always did because Knox was the one guy who didn't grow up skateboarding. We all grew up skateboarding for the most part, which means we, spent our, like, all of our growing up, like, learning how to fall down. You know, you fall off a skateboard, you kind of figure out, like, how to land. Knoxville had none of that. So whenever Knoxville falls, he has no idea how to land, and it's the worst, most devastating

slam. Some of those bulls, man. That's why Knoxville, I consider to be the most exciting professional skateboarder in the world. Yeah, and with the bulls, man. Like, I don't know. Like I said it in the fourth Jagu's movie. Like, at no point, even when life was worth the least to me. Yeah.

When I valued my own life the least, you couldn't get me in front of a goddamn bull. Why was he doing that? Why did he go and get on the bull? Because he's done it before. It literally said there's only a finite more of concussions you can take, brother. Right. Yeah. I think it was fine.

I think we're... It's finally done with being in front of Bulls. Thank God. Yeah. And I don't know. I just say, like, he's just a different breed, man. He's a... He's a different breed of a dude.

And I just don't understand it. Like, if you think about, like, Jackass was just, like, lightning in a bottle for so many reasons. Like how, like, just from a insurance standpoint, like, I'm not even clear that the first movie was insured. Really? I mean, I'm sure it was on some level, but there's this thing in Hollywood called a negative pickup, which means that a movie studio might fund the movie. but they're not like attached to it in any formal way they're like you know that was how the first

jackass maybe was made was like okay like five million dollars like and maybe i'm maybe i'm not like being very accurate but like my general understanding is that like five million dollars was shuttled to a ghost company like perhaps in some untraceable manner, you know? Okay. And the ghost company, like, produces the film. And, you know, the first film, like, it wraps, nobody's dead. And then, in a very formal sense, Paramount Pictures, the movie studio, finds out about this existing movie for the first time.

They say, oh, wow, this is great. We're just finding out about this movie now. We would like to buy it. It's a negative pickup, meaning they purchase it after it's been filmed. And, you know, liability reasons. Yeah, I think now you would have to talk to an entertainment lawyer to find out if anything that I just said is even remotely true. But, uh, strap on the word allegedly to the back half of that. You're good.

I mean, strap allegedly to that whole theory. There you go. But, uh, but yeah, it's like, that's just the level of, uh, of liability. certainly like the the last movies were like you know like insurance crazy like you know they really did the last movies like uh like i believe very differently from that but regardless when you're dealing with insuring a movie when you're dealing with uh you know your leading man in your major like theatrical box office production like not only does Knoxville not have a stunt double,

he's the one taking the biggest risks. Yeah. It's like taking Tom Brady and like, you know, putting him like in the most no line. Like, okay, Tom, you know, you're going to go out there. We're just going to, you're not going to have an offensive line for this game. Right. Go ahead and see what happens.

Just go out there. Yeah. Hey, nobody needs no snap. Yeah. You're just going to go. start holding the ball. Like, I mean, it's crazy, dude. I mean, unprecedented.

It's unprecedented to have a leading man in a Hollywood movie, like, take risks like that. It goes on and on and on about how just lightning in a bottle it is. And nothing like that ever happened before. Nothing like that I don't think could ever happen again. Now, sure. I got to acknowledge that with the action sports, there's risks being taken. Like people are dying, like, on a fairly regular basis.

Like, somebody should look at the action sports industry and really question, like, what's going on over here? You know? It's a wild industry. Travis Pistrana, who seems like he just is the king of all that. Right. And all those guys, there's been so many dudes in that nitro circus world that's unfortunately passed away.

Yeah. It's really, really scary. And in order to be, like, relevant or, you know, like, you have to... It's like this goddamn movie on Netflix, the deepest breath where these chicks are competing for who can free dive on one breath the farthest. And, like, they have to break the record every time. So they're literally like at 103 meters below the water on one single breath. And for their record to count, for their dive to count, they have to reemerge conscious. Oh, no way.

It doesn't even count when they're like, they're like me passing out on nitrous oxide when they get to the water. It's the most disturbing, shocking, fucking upsetting thing. And they have to be conscious and they have to be able to look at the judge and be like, I'm okay. And then they get the white card. You win. Like, dude, people are dying.

It's a show on Netflix. It's a documentary film. Oh, my God. And then as soon as it ends, the one that pops up is the trailer for the next thing they feed you is like, the fucking free diving documentary about the assholes who go through the hole in the ice

and they have to make it to the other hole that's like... And live. Now they're... Yeah, now they're hypothermia plus fucking, like, no, like free no breathing. Free no breathing. Like, I mean, dude, like, that the world we live in is... It's really, really crazy. And, like, where...

That example gives me no doubt. that this is going to be on Netflix. You're special. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know. I don't know. It is Chappelle meets, like, stunts. It's, it really is that good.

Like, that seven minutes are you able to show us? Well, thank you, man. You went to the bathroom. We said they were like, we would all watch that. It's, it's, I'm going to tell you, it's goddamn good. Like, I've worked on that show for five fucking ears, man. And, like, I'd never. stopped, like, improving it.

That's awesome. Yeah, and thank you. I would love it if it got on Netflix. Especially love it if, you know, the stupid writers and sag strikes that I don't understand. I hope that to be the case. I'm not as familiar with all that, but it does seem like a bit of a deal out here in Hollywood. Before we get out of here, we obviously, most of the boys and not all the boys are Jackass fans. Do you guys have any questions for Mr. Stevo?

Jackie Garrett Is there one from the original show, the TV show, one stunt that just stands out above the rest? Taxidermy was on the TV show. Yeah. I mean, the thing about the TV show, Jackass, when it came out, like, the whole cast was never in one place together

until we were filming the second season. So we were all like bona fide stars on MTV. And that really like meant something back then because that was at a time year 2000 when it came out. And it was the world of dial up modems. You know, like there was no such thing as playing video footage on the internet, like in any like real way. So you had no competition from the internet. for television. And what that meant, like, the media was just not fragmented the way that it is today.

Like, and on top of that, when Jackass came out, it was instantly the highest rated biggest profit margin the MTV had ever had. And it was soon dethroned by the Osbournes a year or two later. But, like, it had a staggering audience. and it made us all like legitimate celebrities overnight. And we hadn't even met each other. So like when each episode came on, I had absolutely no idea what I was going to see,

except for I knew what I was going to have on the show. You know, maybe it's like I filmed the whole first season of the Jackass TV show in the space of, five days, even though I only filmed on three of those days. And so I was privy to what I was there for when it happened in those five days, but Bam wasn't there when I was shooting. Like none of the CKY crew, Dave Van Glenn, Prest, Lacey, Weeman. So everything was as new to me when I was watching that first season when it premiered

as it was to every one of the other millions of people that was watching. And I remember just being like, so impressed. I was like, especially because when the show got picked up, I was told like to send in all the video footage that I had so that it could be licensed, acquired, and included in the show, just like a lot of BAMCY footage was. But when I sent in all the video footage that I had, they told me that not one clip I sent them was allowed on television.

because MTV was super touchy about fire, you know, because they had like fire lawsuits that were really, really, you know, costly to them. And they had rules over, like, if you were going to jump off something, it couldn't be over a certain height. And that was my thing, was jumping off high shit, like, and lighting myself on fire at sometimes both at the same time. Yeah. You know?

And if I wasn't lighting myself on fire or jumping off high shit, then I was like, compensating for that by making it really gnarly and by definition not allowed on MTV. So my first concern before we even started filming the series was, yeah, it's great that Big Brother minus the skateboarding is going to be on MTV. But what kind of a watered down, posified version of it is it going to be like? What are they going to let us do? Like I stand out on my footage and nothing's allowed on TV.

And then when the episodes came on, I was like, oh, okay, all right. Like, they really got very nimble at, like, working within the rules, the confines, you know, like. And I just remember being like, God damn, I'm part of something cool. Like, I was just, like, a fan of the show and on the show, you know? So, like, when you say, what was my favorite bit from the TV show? Like, I remember, like, Mexican snowboarding or whatever, like, you know, which probably wouldn't fly today. You know, just everything was so goddamn rat and how Knoxville had like his broken ankle for the whole,

like they just like, it just felt like, particularly with Knoxville's broken ankle, it felt like a continuous stream, you know? And like the failures, like making the cut. And it's like, oh, yeah, like, just taking failure in stride. Like, probably the most impressed I was, like when Knoxville actually broke his ankle. You got Pontius dressed up as Bunny the lifeguard. And Knoxville does the thing, breaks his ankle, and Ponice is like, it's like Johnny Knoxville.

Best Roller Blader or Best Roller Skater in the whole, best roller skater in the world. maybe in the whole town. You know, something like just like, shit like that that Pontius would say it was so, so funny. Like, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, who is, who is, uh, everything, everything, everything, like ever came out of Brandon D. Camillo's mouth is my favorite of, of, of every, like, he was more

talented than all of us put together. I would, I would, like, if not, all of us, like, damn near all of us, put together. That's, and I was seething with jealousy, just like with Di Camillo and Pontius, how they didn't have to risk anything. They didn't have to, they didn't have to have any, like, physicality. They didn't have to be in any pain. They didn't have to take any risks.

They could just make nothing into gold, you know? Like, they're just, damn, there was. those two guys just their natural talent never came to me you know like my attention seeking like was all you know

I'm like pure hustle you know pure hustle grind up for that next thing when you were doing the first season and you don't know any of these guys in the second season you guys are all put together who were you most excited to me at that point and who did you gravitate

towards the fastest. I mean, this is the interesting part is that, like, that first season, like, my, uh, total money earned was after taxes less than $1,500. No shit. For the entire season. Lot of risk, no reward.

Yeah. And, uh, I mean, like, like, uh, I made a YouTube video called Why I Was Broke when Jackass started or whatever, like, that gets all into that. But, um, but I was, working in a circus at a flea market when it started. And I told those circus owners that when there was going to be an MTV crew coming, that I was going to be famous, that I had to go film for five days, but that I would be back.

And just like I said, on precisely the day I said, the MTV crew came. And the circus owners were like very, very touchy because there were animal rights people crawling all over the place because they had three elephants. and like they ended up getting shut down like for the like animal stuff but like when the MTV crew came in Knoxville and Tremaine and and the circus owners says like why are these assholes who are filming my elephants you know like that's just the hot button thing you do not do and and I said like I told you that they were going to come and it's MTV they're not going to like give you uh you know they're not going to do anything where you can see

through them. That was just too much. And when I came back from the five days of filming, having been bitten by a shark, like just completely sleep deprived, drinking all night, like, just, I come in to the circus and they're like, man, we don't have it in the budget. Like, we got to let you go. And it was 100% because the elephant's been filmed. But now I'm unemployed. And I'm, now I'm unemployed. And I'm a cocaine addict. And I don't have any money. And my sister kicks me out of the house. I'm living with my sisters. And now, I'm homeless. And then, like, the show comes out.

And I'm broke, unemployed, homeless, cocaine addicted, and, like, a star on the biggest show in the history of MTV. No fucking way. Like, can I have a photo with you? Yeah. Can I sleep on your sofa? Like, I mean, that's what it was like. So I had nothing.

I had nothing. And I was homeless. and I was on drugs and I was in like and dude Bam had everything he had built in revenue streams he was selling more skateboards than Tony Hawk Bam Margera holds the world record

for selling more skateboards than any human that's ever lived and I believe that it's like to an exponential like to the power of like three or ten or something more than Tony Hawk yeah I don't think anybody will ever catch up to Bamargera for having sold the most skateboards I think that's a bona fide, legit.

Are you Googling it? There, 100%. It's going to come up right now. Like, he sold more fucking skateboards than anybody in history. He was out selling Tony Hawk, like, by a lot. You know, as soon as Jackass came out. He was in, then he was in the Jackass, or he was in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.

And that money came in from that was outrageous. And he had his shoes. He had money coming in from every direction that you could possibly face. I had nothing. Homeless and you're looking at one of your co-stars being like, did you literally have everything? Yeah, I mean, and I remember too because I think the show was already out

and I hadn't seen CKY2K and I saw and I was like, my buddy's making a porno in his bedroom. He's literally filming himself like and... For his own personal collection or is he's marketing this? for his own personal home video. It's always good to have those in the arsenal. Right.

I'm a like vagrant, homeless. You know, I'm watching CKY2K on a VHS tape. And by the way, we're all on liquid acid. Like we're literally put droplets of liquid acid in our mouths. We're tripping our faces off while he's filming himself in the bedroom. And I'm watching CKY2K. And I see Bam jump off of the sixth floor balcony into a swimming pool. and I'm just so jealous.

Like, that was so rad. And I go and I demand my buddy like, stop, come on, we gotta go. I'm fucking, like, my response to seeing Bam jump off that balcony was to go get my clown stilts and video camera and throw myself off of a bridge while walking stilt. Like, over the railing and everything,

so that as I go over the railing, like, I get, like, kind of the rotation of it. Yeah. I mean, you want to talk about, like, football and ACLs, dude, you want to go over the railing off a bridge while wearing stilts that are strapped to your knees? Like, your ACLs are in jeopardy. And I'm on... You know, never. No way.

My knees are solid. I've never had knee surgery. I am jealous of those knees. Dude, I've, I've been big on stitches, big on broken bones, but my joints are solid. I'm getting, I've got maybe some hip issues and rotator cuff from my shoulder. But it's like normal wearing tear, dude. What's the, is that the shoulders and the hips are the number one things, one and two things that... They're just creeping up super recent.

Yeah. Like, yeah, it's creeping up super recent. Do anything like NAD or anything like that? Haven't tried NAD, but... Oh, you've got to do NAD. It is truly incredible. I went to Columbia and got stem cells for degenerative disc disease in my neck. In a neck?

I had a neck thing, too. I had to get an epidural for it one time. Oh, dude, in my bucket list show, I got an epidural foot race. Epidoreal foot race. Well, yeah, like an epidural like 50-yard dash. They pull out the needle out.

It's a four-inch needle in your spinal cavity. They inject a drug called chloropro cane into my spinal cavity, which renders me paralyzed while I'm in a full sprint. They pull out the needle and go.

Which is literally when you said in jackass three and four, you're like, if these two things don't happen, you're paralyzed or death. Oh, dude, like, yeah. Like, yeah, like I did life-threatening ass shit in the bucket list.

how'd you make the 50 yards uh dude i kept like i was in the walking seat yeah well dude the craziest darkest thing about that is like once i'm down they got to determine how paralyzed i really am how do they do that like flick your toes do you feel this oh no they did a lot more than flick my toes

oh we're running out tape um do you guys don't have any questions yeah i think i got to get going anyway okay i sold them 10 times over 10 times 10 times Tony Hawk. Can you imagine how many skateboards? Tony Hawk's been the number one since the 80s. Bam strolls along in 2000 and since then has sold 10 times the skateboards of Tony Hawk.

And like, I mean, dude, I can't even, you can never trust celebrity net worth. Like, they're so wrong. Like, it's just, it's a joke. so like whatever they think Tony Hawk's worth I'm guessing that's a rare instance where they're coming in low

you know I think most of the time it's like you know like chop it in half and you're closer but I think they're coming in low on the bird man

what a legend we gotta get him on the show sometime dude I can I think you're not I think you're not man Tony's the coolest raddest That would be unreal

For being like The foremost icon And something that's like Not even a subculture Like a mainstream Like Olympic sport Like you cannot Like you got Kelly Slater for surfing

You've got Sean White for snowboarding You got Tony Hawk for skateboarding Like these are like the undeniable Like Coca Cola with no Pepsi You know Britney Spears with no Christina Aguilar Like, nobody's close to Tony Hawk in being the most famous skateboarder ever. And he's the most down-to-earth dude

will do, like, virtually, like, what do you have to do? He's done for sure. His documentary on HBO was unreal. It was unreal. It was so cool to see. It was unreal. And, like, yeah, 100%.

And, like, so inspiring, man. You know, like, when I was loaded, I used to look at, Tommy Lee. And I'd be like, as long as Tommy Lee is still raging, like, I got another 10 years in me. You know? And then after I got sober, like I switched to like Tony Hawk. As long as Tony Hawks get rad, I got another six years in me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? That's awesome, man. Dude, we can't thank you enough for opening your home to us. Dude, isn't out with us for as long as you did what, hour 45, hour 50, whatever is? It didn't even give us a hard time for stealing my podcast in a vehicle. Yeah. Well, dude, you're welcome on anytime you want to come back.

I love it. I love it. And let me send everybody to get my bucket list special, like the mestivo.com is the hub for all of my great merch. I got the Wild Ride podcast. Books, man, two books. And by the time this comes out, like my second book will be available, signed every copy I sign. Yeah, dude, I love it. You know, I like to consider myself like that.

I think to myself a lot of the time, what would Tony Hawk do? Like if I'm feeling like I'm going to lash out at somebody publicly. Not Tony. Tony had not. No way. Twitter, too, very underrated. Oh, his Twitter? Oh, dude, he'll go into like coffee shops.

He'll go into like coffee shops. He'll look like Tony Hawk. He goes, yeah, because I am. And they're like, oh, that's hilarious. Here's your coffee. Yeah, he'll relate these experiences in a way that if anybody else did that, it would be like super douchey. Yeah.

Like, he's just, like, very realistic about what his life is like. And in an objective way that's not even remotely, like, grandiose or he's just, like, really, really good at being, like, an ambassador and an icon and, like, a fucking legend. And just, like, not even thinking it's a big deal. But, like, hey, let me share my experience in the coffee shop. Yeah. You know, it's epic, dude. I'm, like, I fucking love Tony Hawk, man. Nothing better than one legend talking about another legend.

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