Bussin' With The Boys - Christian McCaffrey Talks NFL Comeback Player Of The Year, 49ers Injuries & Fatherhood | Bussin'

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Recorded: February 09, 2026 Welcome to another episode of Bussin' With The Boys featuring special guest, 49ers star running back and NFL comeback player of the year, Christian McCaffrey. Will Compton & Taylor Lewan sit down with christian McCaffrey fresh off his Comeback Player of the Year season and carrying the load for a beat-up 49ers roster, CMC gets real about the responsibility of being the guy, the mental side of the grind, and how this season tested him. The conversation also touches on Mac Jones’ strong year, George Kittle battling injuries, and some legendary behind the scenes football talk including stories about Julius Peppers’ freak athleticism and why Luke Kuechly was the gold standard on the practice field in Carolina, when CMC was at the Panthers. Outside the game, CMC talks through how he decompresses, what his daily training routine actually looks like in season, stepping into fatherhood, and how growing up playing multiple sports helped build his skill set. Plus, there’s a classic Super Bowl week moment thrown in that perfectly sums up the chaos of the week. If you’re about top-tier RB play, behind-the-scenes Super Bowl stories, and real locker room football conversations, this one’s for you.   0:00 Intro4:18 KNF Clean Take6:03 Super Bowl Recap8:12 Will Finally Got His House Setup11:01 Taylor Hit Vegas17:46 How Would You Change Super Bowl Week26:05 Guest Rolodex Coming Up31:33 Gooner Of The Month34:40 CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY INTERVIEW STARTS34:48 CMC Came Through For The Boys36:08 Winning Comeback Player Of The Year40:14 Did He Think About His Mortality?45:01 Him Being “The Guy” This Season & The 49ers Injuries50:24 Dynamic With Mac Jones Balling Out51:25 George Kittle Getting Hurt56:16 What's The Deal Will With The Electrical Substation?1:10:20 How Does CMC Relieve Stress?1:13:36 Training Day In The Life Of CMC1:17:30 Julius Peppers Is A Freak1:19:29 Luke Kuechly Was More Athletic Than People Think1:21:45 Becoming A Father1:28:45 Growing Up Playing Different Sports1:37:01 Bud Light QuestionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What you're doing with the boys Bro Welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys This is episode 367, the Christian McCaffrey episode A beautiful episode A wonderful episode Breakdown with the Boys

Our Super Bowl Week I'll be honest with you I'm hot right now on the bus We've been rocking some interviews for the last, what, five hours? Yeah, it's been a classic Monday. Usually, so it's the day after the Super Bowl. Usually this is when the boys have a good two-week break. A nice little time to relax, decompress from the season.

And then we had a guy come on that could only do it today because he goes out to do something else that we're not going to say because his episode hasn't come out yet. And it is a banger. It is a banger. We did a recap that came out yesterday that you guys were watching with Clay Matthews and Delaney Walker. Banger.

So it's been a good solid day. a bus with the boys but you can just tell you can feel it we're running on e a little bit right now yeah for all of our super bowl recap talking about the super bowl game half time show all that stuff that was on our bus with the boys football recap yesterday with delaney and clay matthews today will be diving into christian mcalfrey hint some stuff up here at the top you guys know the drill always a little bit of house cleaning going on but also if you're a fan of bus with the boys these next five weeks good week to be a bus with the boys yeah yeah yeah i think even more than five weeks because we had to some, a couple banked ones that people are going to be like, oh, shit.

Maybe a couple of them. Yeah. Yeah, we might be in a, we're like in a little month and a half piece where I feel like everyone's going to enjoy it every single week. People for the first time, people who've been here for many times, it's going to be incredible. Yeah, but it's about 80 degrees in here. And we, as always, we are brought to you and presented by the Fandual Sportsbook.

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Talking about that hockey team, USA, Hockey, Four Nations. Got to get that get back against Canada, boys. Got to have it. Come on, man. G-T-H-I. Gotta have it. Got to have it. Come on in, Matt.

Oh. Thank you, my friend. You got to be kidding me. Look at that. True Classic envelope. You know what that means. Gooner of the month. Gooner of the month.

It's in my hands right now. We'll hit that at some point, dude. But hey, Super Bowl Week's in the books. Super Bowl Week is an absolute spirit. You go through 20 weeks of the season, whatever since middle of August, essentially, and you're going every single day. We're going every day. Whether we're going to ESPN or traveling out to a college football game, boys are sitting there having the locker room for the dad's podcast for Willie C. We hit the bus with the boys recap show and busting.

Like, it has been a crazy year for us. And this is kind of like when the new year starts. But San Francisco, man, as chaotic as it is. Insanely fun. They ripped. People are talking about all they cleaned up the season. city. Look, I come into your house and you clean the house just because I'm coming over. I leave your house. I'm like, oh, it's a nice house. Right. I'm going to say it's a nice house.

Right. Same to do. People are going to say, hey, there's a lot of homeless there. I didn't see it when I was there. Yeah. I didn't see a whole lot. Yeah. I saw a few. So I saw a couple danglers hanging out there. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, here's a clean take. I know we're doing clean take by Kevin's National Foods. Here's a clean take. The best team in the NFL won the Super Bowl this year. There's a clean take. That's my second best clean take on this show. Clean take the Super Bowl sucked Hey Yeah, there you go

There you go Yeah Super Bowl did suck It wasn't that fun to watch I got a clean day Yeah Clean observation Oh my god

That was so loud God God damn dude It's hot I guess with this mic up in our mind going you're about to get pink eyes

I got a clean take and you're not sorry for the ladies out there ain't no ladies listening are you talking about sorry to the figment of my imagination of women watching this show that smells so bad

yeah that's my bad clean take my bad it was an accident clean take my fault dude clean take you're going to get pink eye from your microphone. I felt like I had something last week

the way that contact scratched my eye. Oh my God. You still down with that? No, I just, I'm out of cut. That was my last pair of contacts and they're dailies. I wore the dailies for like three months. Yeah.

Yeah. So I tried putting them in. They kind of burn. So I'm just like, well, I just got to get some more contacts. It's all right. Yeah. Get some more. You had rocking the glasses.

I think it's a nice little look for you too. Thank you, man. Yeah. Clean take. Clean take. Clean take. Do we read out. We had a fandal event.

It's me, Will. Gronkowski, Russell Wilson, Sequin Barclay. By the way, Fandall, let's talk about the way you guys introduce us. Maybe we should be a little more love on our careers. But there's a little like Maui gym or a glasses company. And they give us free glasses and wheels like, oh, a couple nice Hawaiian glasses here. Very nice. We get the cars like, forgot my glasses.

He's just let my glasses. Everybody's going to last. Like, oh, we're going to uni up tomorrow at the Fandle party and Bud Light party. And I was like, yeah, I forgot. I left my glasses in the Uber or the car service, whatever. Yeah, clean take. Alcatraz ripped. Hey, you left your glasses. Top five car ride in my life, I think.

Oh, the car ride back. I know, dude. Also, clean take, that town, whatever we drove through, although we couldn't see it because it was nighttime, probably top five most beautiful town, I'll be ever seen. Crazy, dude. That's imaginative, too, because you couldn't see it.

Couldn't see it. And Taylor was just assuming that town was gorgeous. I literally said at one point we were at a stop lot. You guys should drop me off right here. and leave me, I would have a fine life. Yeah. I know I would. Clean take.

Clean take. Clean take. Shout out, no free shout out to Alcatraz, though. Yeah. Alcatraz ripped. And I was so, I mean, I've been there a bunch of times. My mom's from that area. So we would go up there and see family.

I'm just laughing about the people tuning in. He was tuning in for Christian McCaffrey. It could be their first time listening to us. And I'm just ripping ass within the first few minutes. Yeah. That wasn't fun for me. Because usually your toots don't smell. that was rancid.

Usually just said, You were sniffing for it though. Me? I'm breathing. I'm breathing. I'm breathing, buddy. Who's sitting it hard, huh? If you're here,

make sure you subscribe and follow. That's only asking. Yeah, please, guys. Yeah. Alcatraz went hard. Yeah. Just comment, nice fart. No. Yeah.

But yeah, man. Fucking, what else is up, dude? It's been a long day. I tell you what I got the, I alluded to it on the pod where we just had with so-and-so. He can't say who. Can't say.

But a bro. A big time, bro. Official friend of the podcast. Not official. We'll be official. But I got the, I got the plunge active in the house. And I got to say,

I'm just so obsessed with the setup. Yeah. I got cooking in the house right now, boys. I got the plunge, no free shout-outs to plunge. Yep. When I was putting it together, Troy was out of dinner.

So it was just kind of, I put Scotty down already. For whatever reason, I was obsessed with just getting this thing all the way done. Right. And started ripping it, plugged it in.

Hit the little button. It starts going. And I'm kind of looking behind making sure all the, all the hoses are intact and everything else. And the room of a sudden is like talking about that, you know, there's some water. And I look up and she's kind of got that little cleaner net where she's getting something. I'm like, yeah, sweetheart, stop. You know, don't be splashing too much. And she's like, no, dad water.

And it's like starting to flood the room. Oh, no. It's starting to get out. It's leaking. One of the tubes. Almost to the door. And so I panic. I rip out the cord and everything else.

And I go and get like six towels. I'm damping everything down. She goes and gets her rain boots on. She's like, I can't touch the water. She runs in and puts rain boots on. Hey, don't jump and splash in the water. And yeah, I was in a little bit of panic because I'm thinking I got this, I got this plunge. Right.

It's filled all the way up with water. Sure. It's inside. Yep. So if there's a leak and I have no clue where it's coming from, like, what am I going to do? How am I going to fix this? Fortunately, I watched a couple of YouTube videos. And really, I just had to, like, retighten the hose.

But I thought I was, like, intact. But it, dude, it started to, like, get all over the floor and everything. anything else. But that little hot, cold combo I got rocking, dude, it is a dream. Talk to me, oh, the sauna. Okay, I didn't know if your cold tub went hot and cold. I'm like, that's crazy. What? It does. The little chiller. Yeah. It got this newer

chiller that's with it, and it can heat up to like 100 degrees, a little normal. Oh, so you a little hot tub too. It can if you want to turn into a hot tub. Now, but we get the hot tub going outside right now too. Yeah, boy, got to operate it right now, huh? Man, my boy, Willie moved into his house. He spent about

three days there. He's been there for two weeks. You're about to head off to vacation too. No. I know I was sitting there last week in San Francisco, low-key kind of just missing the house. I bet. I just want to go back to the house and just kick it. Sit around.

You sit in different seats because you haven't been there yet. Yeah. Yeah. I got a goon. I haven't gooned yet. It's going to be mid-March and Will's going to walk up to Charle and be like, man, how dope is this house? We've been here for four months.

What are you talking about? But yeah. Nothing like, dude, clean take. Proceed. Move it into a new spot. Yeah. Why do you think I do it so often? Yeah, Mitch knows.

He's in a new spot every three months. Got to moving around a little bit. I might have a spot open for you now, Mitch. Yeah, trying to move in a willy spot. Oh, yeah? You're trying to move to Post Road? No. No, no, no, no.

I can't afford that. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, sorry. My part of my property's out there. We got a handful of them things in Nashville, huh? There's a couple. Dude, we, after our Super Bowl, so Tuesday, Tailin hits me up. She's like, hey, are you going to Vegas for, after, like,

Saturday, Saturday night. I was like, well, I wasn't planning on coming home and spending time with the family. She's like, you're already out there. You might as well just go out for like a one night and just see if you can get something done. So right after we did the form energy thing, which by the way, I want to put this on everybody's radar. Doing that form energy thing and seeing all of those individuals get after and the heart rate monitors and the polar, no shout out to polar, but they had a whole bunch of stuff going on, I think it would be sick. If they do that again next year, if Buston did it. For sure.

And it's like a 45, 50 minute workout, and it's all about your heart rate. I think it'd be awesome if Busson had our own little team. And we just did it for the love of the game. Put that in the back of your heads. I know a lot of that. I just put that on you guys. But just put that in the back of your head. So anyway, we finished that.

We rip over to the airport, have some airport sushi, hang out a little bit, and go to Vegas and boys. We binked their ass in one night. Fruitful? Fruitful. Snipe them. Stated Caesars for the first time. Shout out, Nicky Boy from Caesars. got him that I snipped a little

little piece on them real quick hit up Dana hey where's the move tonight he goes meet me at Red Rock home base get to Red Rock they're all sad at me they're sad disappointed at me that I'm not staying at Red Rock I get it I'm dating somebody else for a minute

she's pretty by the way and think their ass too had us a nice little deal dang so is Red Rock they're going down they're going down a notch no no no no I love it Red Rock will always be home

but I'm married to one woman her name is Taylin all right as far as my casinos go like I love Red Rock that'll always be home but I am okay to I can venture around a little bit yeah vacation I is a vacation yeah yeah I'm an adventure a little bit

a little bit a little bit of a little bit of a vibe I had like a Wyoming king bed it was crazy I rolled around that thing I did three rotations before I mentioned the other side that's insane yeah it's a big boy it's a big boy so it was a nice little set up Yeah. Is, do we know form's going to do it? I don't, I don't know because, well, the way the form thing worked was,

we obviously got up in the morning, we lived over late night to the Boys Ret Fan duel and the Bud Light Party, Post Malone, Green Day, very cool, very fun event. The Post Malone. He was great, dude. He sounded an amazing live. We go to Green Day and it's like, oh, these guys sound like you put them on Spotify. They were awesome.

It was awesome. And we're all kind of all little punk rock vibes coming out. We're all just loving it. We're headbag in the corner, having fun, talking to a bunch of, a who's who in the zoo and uh so we had a late night there get back to hotel had what like five hours of sleep maybe something like that and go to this form thing chandler's there salas there me and saa get up we start talking we're on this like little bridge we talk for a little bit go down disco lines is there who he like walks like we're sitting in the back we're about to go on he goes

up he goes hey you play for the titans it's like yeah his boy is like a titans fan so we start chopping it up a little bit clump face times matt malone because apparently matt malone's a huge Disco Lines fan. They look alike. They look alike. We put a couple posts up. Disco Lines is commenting. Like kind of a bro.

Disco Lines is kind of a bro. Dude, his set, all of us were just kind of, we were just kind of watching. I just looked around and all of us were just banging heads. Oh, dude, the music guy, you could fucking move it.

That dude right there? Yeah. Look at him. That's disco lines. There's two brothers talking on FaceTime right there. Yeah? How crazy is that? Matt's hungover as fuck, too.

No doubt. Matt's just a big fan of his? Big fan. He starts the convo to Matt. And he's like, what's up? You handsome motherfucker. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

But yeah, I do that. And then the whole event was essentially the most in shape people I've ever seen in my life getting after it. While me and Sal and Mike just have microphones were like, yeah, all right, team blue. And it was just, it was awesome. It was a great time. Cruise out there about 10 minutes before it was over, made our flights. Yeah, sure. Quick question.

Is that literally the size of a Wyoming king size bet? I think it's like that, dude. It was, I'll say this. I'm not sure if it was a Wyoming. King, Alaskan King, how those things work. It was way bigger than a king size or a California King. Way bigger. My feet, I had like this much room with the feet,

which I've never had in my life. I mean, there was, you know, there was like sets of pillows. And like usually a king has like two sets of pillows with maybe a little space from the middle. Yeah. Three long sets of pillows. Across. Very cool, ma'am.

You're going to get one? No. Not at my house. You mean, you've been to my house, but have you been to my master bedroom? When we built in the house, it was like what's built a smaller master bedroom with a thought process of you don't you sleep in there you don't want to they're not really hang out and then I go to this motherfucker's house right next to me he's got a little sitting area and stuff I'm like I should have built a bigger master man because that's kind of nice it's a little sitting area those little fuzzy like you have like uh what are those

little fun like you like uh golden doodles for jitters man like you got some cool like it's just kind of sitting over there yeah it's a nice aesthetic with a little fireplace behind it yeah when I And I'm walking around not to gas your house up more, but he's gotten a great little like, you know what Porsche has that like forest green like that's got like an iconic Porsche color. They have like that with like golden accents and I'm like kind of pointed it all out and Charles like I wasn't familiar that you were like interior design. She didn't know my background. Yeah, she didn't know that you had that in your bag.

Yeah, yeah. Charles, I was obsessed with those green colors. Yeah. And A, I think it is the best accent color you can have in a house at this moment right now. What's coming back, no, that's not it. What's coming back is we've kind of gone through a phase with houses like the contemporary look, the whites and the blacks, and there's not a whole lot of color. And then recently, like a home alone, the home alone house just sold.

It was remodeled and it's all white and black more contemporary. And I feel like humans are getting back to like, let's have homes with some more character involved in it. And I feel like yours is the perfect blend between like a modern type of home with like, you know, you're your woods, your earthy's. but you also have nice accents, which kind of just juices me up because, yeah, they look at that, that's the house now.

Kind of makes you sad, doesn't it? Yeah. You much rather live in that top one. Like such a home, cozy. Right, right. That one down there, that's an Airbnb. You scroll up, you're like, I'm at Grandma's house.

Yeah. I feel good about that. Wallpaper is coming back, dude. Every piece of our house that has wallpaper, I always kind of feel warm and fuzzy when I'm around it. Yeah. My kids got some nice wallpaper,

my shit, you guys are kind of living. Yeah. We have wallpaper in like the bathrooms and stuff. Yeah. I'm just like, I mean, yeah,

if that's what you want. Clean take? Wallpaper bathrooms, funky bathrooms, funky bathrooms, hit hard. They hit. Clean take.

That's a clean take, yeah? Extremely clean take. Thank you. Thank you. Also the homeless in San Francisco. If you could switch anything for, you can look at the next year's Super Bowl,

what's a change you would like to see? Two teams that are the same level? No, no, no, no. I'll talk about our week. But so the boys' week. Can I say the thing that was,

put on game at us on a street, if I could change one thing about our Super Bowl week from here on now, it would be that this bus is at Radio Row. That our bus is either in the building or on the side of the building, but like... Maybe like one of the just popular areas where we were seeing a bunch of guys. Right. Like you have a stage and maybe it's dressed like the bus,

but like having a bus with the boy set up there on the outskirts, we got to do that next year. Agreed. The amount of people that run through, and like our shows will look different for sure for those next five weeks, but like you're able to get like a Miles Garrett and a Justin Jefferson and who at like all these like big time guys

walking through hit like 20 minutes with each of them. One episode was like three of those guys. Yeah. That would be awesome. Even if we like go live for five days. I was going to say mine had to go live. Yeah. That was the one thing I think about is is there a spot where we could go in a day or

two later? Yeah, going Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Right, because a Saturday does make sense. But by the time I hit basically Thursday, day, I'm just itching to get home. Yeah, I'm with you. To where we push it back a day, just have a little bit more fuel in the tank by the end of the week. I felt like we had good fuel the entire time.

Well, Sunny D was alive and well a few times. But yeah, for the most part, the actual juice itself was good. Boys were vibed. I think if I could change another thing too, it's decision fatigue. Like when we're, the handful of times we're trying to figure out where to eat, I'm looking at the group chat. And I'm obviously like, I'm saying we need to be better. I'm guilty of this. I didn't say shit in the group chat.

I'm thinking, I'll just go eat on the eighth floor again. I really don't give a fuck. Yeah, that's where I was at. We need to coin somebody in the group outside of clump that is the dinner person. The dinner person, exactly. They pick it every night. Yeah.

We have a standing resi somewhere. The resi set up. Yeah. And it's dialed. Because we hit a couple good spots. But when we're sitting there, we could have been way better. We had to leave an hour for Fandul,

but, you know, what are we going to go down by Fanduel? Should we eat somewhere? We can't really eat somewhere anymore because now it takes so much time. to get around San Francisco, I think, man, grab a damn sandwich on the eighth floor. The eighth floor was nice. Shout out of the Ritz, no free shout-outs to the Ritz.

Yeah. Clean take, your food on the eighth floor was great. Clean take. Leo? Leo from the Ritz, man. Shout out Leo from the Lits, dude. He just took care of us. He always made sure, man. That last day with the banana. Yeah, yeah. Bro.

Dude, Leo, Leo, he was the guy at the front desk whenever you get off the elevator. We hooked him up with some True Classic. Oh, I love that. It was like $300. $300 in True Classic. He actually just texted me and said, When that goes live, let me know he wants to show his family. That's awesome, man.

That is so cool. Yeah, he'll be a part of the blog and everything like that. Do you have something to add? We got saved by the food at the Fandall party because that night turned into, we might not eat. We get there. We don't know if there's food. Right. That food kind of ripped at the Fandle party.

Yeah, that was fun. Those Bout ones or everything? Oh, my God. Yeah, it was solid. And also that little chicken, whatever the chicken nugget thing on the side was. You saw mine was cold, but I could tell like, oh, this is warm. Like the little fried chicken? Yeah, bro.

That food, though. It saved us. We had our yearly meeting with the workaholics guys. They were awesome. And the night we were fun. I had no clue. We were sitting there. I'm like, oh, this is going to be on Netflix.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, I thought we were just cutting it up. We were on radio. The boys, yeah. We went to the volume party, which by the way, if you've been to the volume party, the last four years like we have, this year was incredible. Peak. So much fun. Like, I think it's the first time we like stayed longer than 30 minutes.

Yeah. And there were so many people. So people that talk to, get to know, like, networking opportunities. and then Michael Klein, he's like, hey, I'm going to go to the New Heights Party. Do you want to go? And I love to go see Travin the boys. Go over there.

And the work of Hawks guys are there. Me, Durs, and Blake were chopping it up for like 30 minutes, just hanging out. They were everywhere, bro. Adam was on our team for the Boos Pony's at the dozen. Yeah. And Blake and Durs came. They were backstage chilling.

Dude. Those guys are awesome. We had, um... Do what? Joe Burrow was at the New Heights Party. He said, Mitch said, who else showed up? to the New Heights party. That wasn't on the list,

but got on there, got in there. I don't know. The boys. Oh, the fellas. Delaney, Texas. The fellows ripped off. They were getting after at the volume party.

Decided to go to, where'd you all go? Rubicon. Rubicon. With Pete and George. It was awesome. And then I cruised over with Jack, Klein,

and then Klein's boss, so I can't remember his name. But we cruised over to New Heights for a little bit and they just pop up. They're in the little, the one roped off area with Delaney. And it's just them, I'm all just chilling there.

I see Burrow. I'm like, clump, go get Burrow on the podcast. How much juice does Joe B. Buddy? I'm on the phone tail line. This motherfucker might be the most handsome cat ever. Yeah. Like this dude.

He's got the swag to match too. He got the hair fucking going. He's got everything. You know when like you get ready. He's got everything. When you're putting intention into going out and you like kind of get dressed up nice and you kind of look in your hair and your hair looks really good. And then you go to a party and a photo is taking of you an hour later and your hair looks way fucked up.

And it's way different. Joe Burrow looks like you just got out of the bad. from getting ready the entire night. It was the wildest thing. His hair didn't fucking move. But yeah, it looked wavy. It didn't look restricted, but it was set right where it need to be.

It was beautiful to see. Yeah. Absolutely beautiful to you. So Clump goes up to Joe Burrow. Hey, we want to get you in the pod. Clum walks back up to me and goes, he ain't coming on the pod. Tell us what happened, Clump.

I just walked up to him, like, introduced myself. And then I kind of said, hey, we'd love to get you on bus with the boys. And he looks at me, he goes, I ain't coming on. He said, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't do podcast so there ain't no way

I'm coming on but some of the boys and I was like hey man all good nice to meet you I walked to Taylor he's like what do you say

he ain't coming on the pod yeah and then Taylor I walked over to him I go hey I heard some terrible news he's like what are you talking about

I was like I heard a bad thing about you just now and he looks over at club looks at me and he goes man it's not you guys he like knew exactly what I said

but the way he Joe Burrow shut us down was in a way it's like incredibly refreshing the way he Joe Bede. Yeah, the way he Joe Bied me.

So authentic. Because he's like, yeah, I don't like doing podcast. If I did him, I'd probably be great. But I just don't, I just don't want to do podcasts. And I'm like, hey, it's all good. And then he started going, well, you know, if you catch me on the right day. And I was like, Joe, listen, if we're going to be the guys that see each other once every year, we kind of dab up and walk past each other and we pretend to be boys.

Like, let's not be liars to each other. He's like, no, seriously, if you catch me on the right day, I'll go. Clump pops up. What about if we come to camp? He goes, if you guys come in camp, I'm definitely not fucking. going just like that just like that too getting any fucking point there I'm definitely not and it's like all right we come to OTAs and he like leans back he's like

I could see myself coming on the show if it's OTA is that bro we come to you we set up exactly where you want you just walk in we hit it for 30 minutes he goes gotta catch me on the right day I go I kind of need more than that I can't just show up in Cincinnati is like well I'm not gonna make a deal with you right now I was like that's totally fair but you will hear our names again we just carve out five days ago during OTAs right knowing which day it's gonna happen That would be funny. Just five days in Cincinnati.

We got to interview Joe. Got it. I went from, Hey, Taylor, who's your white buffalo? Probably Vince Fawn to Taylor, who's your white buffalo? It's Joe Burrow now.

He made you want it. He made me want it. Now I understand what all those girls are thinking. You know, I got to get them. It's hard to get them. He's so hot. Doc, he is.

What's he doing, man? Oh, I make $500 million in him super hot. The fuck's your problem, man. Clean take. It's so hot right now. Clean take. Joe Burroughs is up to something there.

Joe Burroughs hot, the cleanest take. Yeah. Of all time. Yeah. Burroughs so hot right now. This bus would probably be hotter if he ever came on. If he came on, it didn't matter what the temp was in the bus. It just right up to the top.

So hot. He probably doesn't sweat, does he? You're probably right. Fucking Joey B, man. Joe, come on our show, dude. If you're a Cincinnati fan, please tell Joe to come on our show. That's the new white buffalo. Yeah.

It's got to be, man. It has to be. It has to be. What do we think? For Joe B? Just get out of here. Yeah. Start the CMC podcast.

Yeah. And we got bangers. We can say who we got in the Rolodex. Not this one. Not the one we did earlier today, but people saw photos. Yeah, yeah. Landed Patrick Willis.

Bang. Banger. Really good. Banger. So if you're a San Francisco person, tune in right now, Patrick Willis was a bangor. With a special guest.

With a special guest, the special guest being Delaney. Like Will made a call 10 minutes before the podcast started. It was like, yo, Willis is coming on. You guys are teammates. Like, I think he'd be more comfortable if you came. Delaney being who Delaney is, is like, I'll be there.

He said, drop the pin. Shows up before Patrick Willis. And Patrick Willis was on time. And, you know, getting around San Francisco, it's like, what are we doing? 10 minutes. 10 minutes. Not even, not even, right. He keeps it 100.

Keeps it 100. Then we got Russell Wilson on. Banger. Bo Jackson. We got a, go ahead, keep going, fill the air. Banger. CMC. Who else?

CMC. isn't that thing? Who am I missing? I know we had one other person. We got Braves. That's right. And the one we just, we did Braves.

That podcast was absolutely incredible, heartbroken for the boy. And then that's the other guy we had on before we left. Right. Oh, yeah. We're just. Oh, shit.

Yeah. Yeah, we got a nice little lineup. We got a confirmation too. All the boys on this bus who booked them all too. Big time working hard. Shout out Clumpy Boy for doing that. Yeah.

Nice work. And we got good validation and confirmation from Russell wasn't too. So glad I did that was refreshing. It was a fun pod It was good You know, we've said a couple We've joked around about it We've joked around about Russ

Yeah, we've had And Russ is pretty hot too And Russ is pretty hot Russ was savvy to I think it was like 20 minutes in He got our guards down He says, I know you guys Have talked to a little shit

Yeah, yeah And I was like, oh shit So you do consume Russell Wilson looking at me And saying right before he left Persistence is key Was one of the greatest moments Of my life man

I'm like fuck that was awesome Because you were the guy that was kind of running everybody down, like sprinting. I think, uh, was it Dion Sanders Jr.? Yes. Yeah, he kind of bodybagged you. Yeah, I got body bagged a few times. That was tough to watch, Clint.

He ran away, came back. He's like, yeah, he didn't get me the time of day. He just kind of kept walking. He's kind of like looking over. Oh, it's, it's tough. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You're trying to just get gas.

Will and I got bodied by one individual of the Pro Bowl, too. I'll give you a hint. He scootered away from us pretty quickly. Oh, Michael Parsons, yeah. Oh, okay. I'll just drop his name. Yeah, Mike.

Bussing with the boys. If you, trying to get him a dab and he just wasn't at all, like committing to the dab or giving much of time. We got to get him on the pod to talk about it. Oh, he ain't coming on. He ain't coming on. He ain't coming on.

He ain't coming on. I think that's just a sale. As much as I want, Joe Burrow. You know? Miles Garrett, though. We're going to talk about. Miles Garrett, he's a homie. He was a homie dropping the glasses when you.

Yeah, bro. We got to do that pod in Grace. shorts have to have to have to do it in gray shorts Mendoza here's here's an issue Mendoza's yeah come on here's the problem I think a lot of these athletes aren't hearing from their teams that busts what the boys wants them to come on that is very fair because we we checked a couple that said no to us and they're like I had no idea

it's like oh you didn't yeah look at one and you don't know which one of their teammate it and then you see him gonna do it's one of those things it's so chaotic for Super Bowl week so I understand right if they don't hear that bus is booking them because they got teams like I'm sure they got brands they're working with those brands wanting to do certain interviews or go here or go there so everybody else they kind of tell no so it doesn't trickle to the player which sucks in our world yep because we're like man if we could just probably talk to this dude I bet he'd come on yeah and that's that worked yeah clump got that done I feel like that happens more times more times than not when I I did the booking

for a very short period of time but it was around the Super Bowl last year and that Super Bowl's always crazy, man. As soon as y'all DM them, they're like, yeah, I'm there. Oh, my gosh. I know, but how do you get, I guess, yeah, that's a new world that we kind of need to figure out as like the booking standpoint. Like, how do we go about getting that done a little more clean? It's really in those like, I mean, really the Super Bowl, right?

It's really just in the Super Bowl. It's always our hardest issue. Stuff doesn't get booked up really until the week of because there's so many lists that come through the pipe. Like, here's a list. We want on priority. here's who we want to go out to you never want to corner yourself in an interview you don't want to be in because somebody that we really wanted is now saying yes later and it could pop up like 24 hours

before like rush wasn't booked until one hour before we did it yeah an hour before we did it that was a true like clump persistence thing like before russ was booked i look at clump and i go hey i think we need to reevaluate the way we approach guests it's a lot it's a lot i don't want i know there's any like there's examples we're probably thinking of when you're thinking that way But also Russ, it was like, I knew who he's into coming on whenever he saw us at the Fandleport. He's like, hey, I just want you to know, like we're trying to figure out, figure out something. And I was just trying not to put any pressure.

Because again, one benefit was that we were in the same hotel together. Yeah. So you can't help but pass each other. True. True. Yeah. Introduce yourself, but again, we're not trying to play like B2. Right.

But that's why you have Clump. Yeah. That's why you need a guy like Clump to go and be that guy because we're not going to be those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the one time I did put myself out there a little bit. I mean, we'll get you on bus and what's going on. they scooted their ass away from me and it wasn't fun. Yeah, yeah.

Last time I do that. That wasn't a fun feeling for me, you know? Anywho, we feel good about it, boys? Great week. We got a couple. Oh, we need to do. A couple pieces we got to hit. Huh?

Oh, damn. Yeah, we got to do a gunner of the month, bro. The month about to take place right here. So obviously a massive year is taking place, but this month in general has been absolutely incredible. Let's see. Our gooner of the month for January is Jeremy Klump. Oh my God.

On the bus right now. Clump, how do you feel? Speech. Yeah, it's been a fun month. I appreciate you guys. I feel like this year in general was awesome. I'm glad football season's over because you see like that finish line,

but super excited for like even things like the Super Bowl already having plans for new things. Super excited for this year again, some things in the works that it's going to be a fun-ass year. but love you guys it's been fun fucking this is the best time I love I had so much I mean being away from my wife and kids

obviously sucked but like what a week that guy was so hard to come home and be like hey babe I know it sucked but I had a great fun time it was so much fun hanging with the boys it was a great time so yeah I appreciate y'all clean take let's get more guests in 2026

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I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.

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Special guest today on Bustin with the Boys, man. Individuals been through adversity. He's done everything in the league you could possibly do. But more than anything, a guy that is for the boys, more than anyone could possibly say after this week, there was rumors flying around everywhere. Chris McCaffrey is not going to do Bustin with the boys. What if he doesn't?

What does that mean for the culture? Sure enough, it was all just a rumor mill. Rumors. Rumors. It's fan talk. It's media talk. It's all the specials. Speculated stuff that makes the show fun to watch, but at the end of the day, in the back of my head, I knew the whole time I'm showing up

Yeah, they could put you as limited participation all week long. I'm playing in the game, but you're gonna have the light of cane Yeah, you'll do whatever it takes to be on that field some on Wednesday, you might have something happened, whatever. It's it's gonna might affect Thursday Friday. It's not affecting Sunday. I'll be here with the boys in the chair. I like to I like to picture you just laying in your bed and just kind of scrolling and seeing Chris McCaffrey for the boys question mark a bunch of things. People wondering and you just smile to yourself knowing I'm about to shock the world. People forget that CMC was like an OG without being an OG to us. Like he bought the merch on his own. Because Ionitis was his teammate in Carolina. And I remember I think they were traveling to a game and they were on the plane and Matt snaps a photo.

It's like CMC wanted me to send this to me. He's like rocking her hat. He was a boy before. He was a boy before. Yeah, before the relationship even started. Right. He was a homie. gone probably what a minute and a half into this podcast and we have not even mentioned that this young

man one comeback player the year yeah within 24 hours dude was it was that surprising to you or did they kind of tell you before no it's surprising um some people will tell you like hey just be prepared in case it happens but uh so that way you can work on a speech yeah so you can work on a speech i i i worked on it i didn't say i had a lot i wanted to say but they give you minimal time so i don't know but it was uh it was cool huge honor definitely when they're telling you to like get prepared and you're kind of thinking of a speech do you have like nerves or anxiety thinking about oh shit i'm gonna walk up there like you want some maybe i want some stuff of substance like do i want to hit them with a joke do you feel like a little bit of anxiety of like i'm about to go up there in front of everybody

it's it's some it's you know yeah i think i always played close to the chest with with with that you know get your thank yous out but it is a cool honor too i mean it really is so you know you want to be genuine and meaningful and i think uh uh uh i had a few jokes lined up and then I looked at some of the past winners and they made the jokes and I'm like I can't be recycling jokes. Every other year you get you know what I mean. Can't recycle jokes. You got to be original. No, so I just, I stayed away from the jokes. Smart man. Yeah. Focus on the wife. Shout out the family. Shout out the wife. Shout out the family. Mentioned the daughter. Clip it so that she can go back when she's older. Maybe she's got Instagram. It's my birthday.

She throws that up. Yeah. All of that goes in my head. You're not going to understand. You're not going to understand this now. It wasn't for it wasn't it was this was for me in 15 years. Yeah. That's what's that was for. Everyone's going to think how what a good dad. Oh man. This guy's incredible. This is a 15 year playing in your head. We need that to happen. Have you had a chance like reflect on? Because I remember last year we were talking about all the stuff going on. Was it public what you had? Because I don't want to say anything right now that it wasn't public. I kind of went yeah, I went through the ringer. Yeah. It was a lot going on. I kind of get you know I gave my trainer is a real big project and I was like hey look here's what's going on can you get me back

and uh you know it was all day every day you know when I when I think about this season I I think mostly about January 1st until training camp um because that felt just so challenge there was just so challenging you know in all ways so are we talking about the calf yes yeah yes the injury last year the injury last year all that stuff you go through I don't know if it's public if he's like yeah that like january yeah there's a bunch of stuff yeah i was like because as he's talking my brain's trying to work no it's just there was one thing after the other um that i just you know had to deal with and it was one of those things where uh it felt like you just couldn't catch a break and then you know when the season ended it's like obviously people tell you

to take a break all that stuff but i was addressing so many things that it was like look you really don't have time like if you want to come back i didn't want to miss OTAs. I wanted to come back for OTAs, like ready to go. But I could, you know, I got to the point where I could train, like, train and healthily, probably like a week before OTAs. So it was rehab, rehab, rehab, that's, then you go to OTAs and you're still rehabbing, right, but you're going through the practice and you're managing and, and then camp, there's only, or the summer before camp, there's only so much time. So it was a long, grueling process. But one of the cool things, I got to do with my brother, Luke. So he trained with me all, all offseason. And he, and he,

I swear that kept me going, man. It was so fun to train with my brother. I've gotten to play with my other two brothers, but I haven't, I've never played with him. But being able to train with him this year was, I mean, I can't even tell you how awesome it was, just having a training partner, somebody to push you that obviously is your brother.

And some days when you're alone and you're hurting, it's like, man, I don't know if I can make it today. And then you see him running and you're like, it's that mental competitiveness that continues, you did like push me throughout so much of these training sessions that I really think played a big role how old are you now 29 he's old so when but when these injuries yeah when these injuries happen how frustrating is it for you because when they were kind of piling up and popping up last year it's almost like universally like okay he's getting a little bit older white running back is are we

seen that's that kind of age what you're talking about you know what it has to do with come on like you're not supposed to be here, man. I'm not supposed to be here. Yeah. You're not supposed to be here. Yeah, yeah. And so that like goes into, but I mean, nine years later, it's like, it can't be, I'm not, yeah, but no, I know, you're right though. People won't say father of time is catching up with you.

I'm just saying in context, it's not like, hey, you're getting older, you've had some injuries. You're white. Like, wait, what? That doesn't, it just contextually, that part didn't make sense. Especially, I think it was number two more my late. I mean, think about the stuff you had to go through last year, being white. That's the exact mindset. A white running back needs to have, too.

He doesn't realize how big of a deal it is. Oh, my God. All right. Endangered species never know they're endangered, man. Like the snow leopard. What were you asking? Christian knows how I was feeling last year. I'm like, oh, the whiteness is catching up to him.

But, The mortality of a Christian... It catches up to us. At some point, of the white man... It comes to get you. It's inevitable. It's inevitable.

Did you feel a lighter this year? God, I'm starting to sweat. My guts hurting. But this idea... Finish your question. Finish your question. The mortality of like, yo, this could be the beginning of the end

for Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. Your white privilege is out of here. You know, there's a handful of black running backs are like, good. see good yeah we told you we told you this wasn't gonna last forever we're just waiting yeah but even as a player like no one even like from the front office level where people that brought you in like I wonder if they're thinking my mortality is

coming to life now yeah you know I think we can wipe away the life too we just have still thinking about trim williams in there but I told you all yeah no um yeah I think look especially when you're going through a rehab process it really doesn't matter if it's you're in year nine or in year four like I have had similar thoughts, you know, when I was, because I had, I had a tough injury year in Carolina a couple, a year and a half, really. And all those same thoughts come back, you know, whether you're older or not. And so I think part or whiter, you know, you know, I, no, I always felt like, uh, if I could just show up every day and see what happens, um,

and, and I think being, having to go through that stuff beforehand, definitely taught me a lot because it showed me that it is possible and that all the noise you'll have to listen to and those thoughts in your head those don't have to be true and so I tried to just as as much as possible even if even though it was so difficult I tried to just lock in and show up every day and train my ass off and rehab as hard as I could and just see what would happen I think I think that's the only way to do it it's the only way to be sustainable mentally and emotionally through the off season otherwise you're just going to ride this roller coaster of emotions where you're listening to everything and even yourself. Yeah, there's doubts.

You know, there's doubts. There's a lot of uncertainty. Like, am I even going to be healthy for this next? Like, you know, there's all of those things coming to play. But you just show up every day, man, and eventually you start to feel good and you're like, okay, I'm back. I can do this. When did it start to click during the offseason, you're like, okay, I'm going to be that mindset of, okay, I'm back. I can do this. I think in the summer when I was training, like after OTAs, it was just one day where you run in routes and you're like, all right, I feel like me again. Yeah, I feel like me again. Like, don't get me wrong.

Would I rather a full off season? Yeah, like, again, there's only so much time to train. So I'm excited I came out healthy this year because now I can, you know, I'm going to be months ahead of where I was last year. And if I do it right, I think there can be massive advantages to that. So, you know, I'm excited. Ending this season hurt and having to go through all that stuff is, you know, It just prolongs, you know, getting to your peak. You know, that's why I felt like this year I tough through a lot,

but now that I'm healthy, I'm excited for the offseason. I'm surprised to argue that you were healthy because literally no one on your team was healthy at one point. And it was like, all right, give Christian the ball in 50 different ways for this game, like the Rams game. Or was it Rams of Seattle? You just had like 50 fantasy points for sitting there streaming the game. It was a Thursday night game.

And everyone's hurt. I think Kittle had a great. at that point. I think Trent was out. Fred Warner just got hurt. Nick was out like every like casual fan who can name a player on the 49ers was essentially hurt and done for the season and it was just you and you just became the bell cow for the entire year. Yeah. I mean I think that again I think that's some of the stuff you read but I don't I'd never saw it as it was just me at all. You know like Mac Jones balled his ass off. We had we had backups come in here you know off the street guys like Kendrick Bourne had 184 yards in that Thursday night game.

Like that, that's not like, you know, you're not alone, right? Some guy just had 184 yards. DeMarcus Robinson's out there balling and he missed the first three weeks and he comes, like all of these, Joanne Jennings is out, like, you're not, you're never alone. You know, I know like there's, there's your, you know, the big guys and the big names that you think, that you think of when you think of starting, you know, starters in the NFL. But I think that was one of the coolest parts about this. team this year was how unbelievable the depth was and the rookies there's we had guys come in who

made serious noise that have never played in meaningful games and you could see the standard that the guys like george the guys like fred um you know the the guys like brock and and all these guys have set for so long you could see it trickle down into the you know the younger guys and the second string guys to where you know you can't replace guys like that you know it's it's a team effort to replace guys like that when they get hurt well that's why it was so fun to be a part of I never felt like, oh, man, that wasn't the case for me, because I watched the tape, and I could see you got guys out here bawling, you know, and selling out. So that was made it fun.

Wouldn't it wild, too, just all the injuries that were taking place? It's like at the end of the year you guys bring in Eric Kendricks, who goes were playing a few snaps to where he's basically starting the entire games, either the last game of the season, the playoff game. It was nuts to kind of see, because you guys were like the team. The NFC West was the best division in football this year. You guys, what did your guys' record end up at the end of the regular season? We lost team.

Yeah. 12 and 5. 12 and 5. But just knowing that you guys were always the team that's like they're not talked about or at some point it's going to catch up to them because they're winning games. But you weren't talked about like Seattle. You weren't talked about like the Rams. All these other teams who were playing well. They're playing at a high level.

What was it like just kind of each week it felt like a different team was on the field? Yeah. Again, I think that was the coolest part because it's not like we didn't know all that noise was going on. I mean, I think, and we had a lot of young guys, too. And so that can be tough as a young player coming in, having to hear all that for the first time in your career and block it out and just ball and show up to work every day in practice. And they really did that, man. I found so much inspiration from a lot of our backups and younger guys this year, more than I'd say I ever have. Because normally, I mean, you guys been a part of teams.

You lose all those guys. Like, it's easy to hang it up and be like, ah, you know, maybe I can have some good individual stats or whatever and see what happens. the next, you know, that was never the case, man. I think that's a huge testament, too, to the staff and getting guys right. All the position coaches. Kyle's unbelievable, you know, in my opinion, he's the coach of the year. And what he did with our team this year. Damn, shut up.

Not just, not just, you know, the scheme and all that stuff, but the way he gets these guys to play from day one, there's a very high standard. And, you know, again, obviously didn't end the way we wanted, but it was a team I'll always remember. Yeah, so you don't think Braves should have won Coach of the Year. No, I think he's equally deserving, but I'm biased. Damn, Lincoln.

I personally, I think, you know, when you look at, I just, Kyle's my guy, dude. I mean, that's somebody, you know, obviously traded for me, believes in me, gives me the rock. I think he's the best football mind I've ever been around. But I also think when you look at the adversity that our team had to face this year, and there's a lot of coaches that I don't know if they win 12 games and go to the playoffs and win a playoff game

and have serious shot at a run. So with a week 14 by, you know, all that stuff. All that stuff is, it's not nothing, right? It's not everything, but it's not nothing. And he just did a hell of a job with all that stuff. Yeah. It's a phenomenal argument for Shanahan to win it because when you're losing this talent on the field,

you're not just losing that, but you're losing the leadership in those media rooms as well. And for Shanahan to have like to scheme up these plays with these guys like rookies and guys, people don't really know of very much like scheming them open mac jones comes in he was at the patriot's no one really believed in him he was kind of like in that you know we'll see if the 49ers are dead and then he balls out to the point where he's at the press conference and people are saying hey when brock pretty comes back do you think you should be the starter basically and he handles that

incredibly it just seems like every year that goes by even though you guys still have the cell phone tower and you guys get injured all the time you guys just are a rock as far as a locker room goes like everybody that goes in there like the 49ers don't know you're like the 49ers don't become the player the player becomes the 49ers like the culture stands no matter what who's on the field which is just badass yeah it's well said um how was the dynamic uh being around when max bone like that team's having fun you know everything's all good inside the locker room but seeing it unfold mac had an unbelievable answer when somebody asked him directly about it on handling whether his role or with the team and everything else but from your vantage point how was that dynamic being around

when the noise was at its loudest. It was as good as you could imagine. Like legitimate love for each other, legitimate love for football, respect between the entire room. And, you know, as far as outside of the quarterback room, you know, I think it was just this great understanding

that, dude, I don't care who's in the game or what game or who we're playing. We all have our own individual jobs to do. And just, it was a good obsession over our individual jobs. Hey, whoever's it, quarterback, Mac or Brock, be in the right spot so he can hit you. You know what I mean?

Like, again, it was just the blocking out of the noise that I think was a sign of a good culture and a mature team. With all the injuries that took place, the one that looked like was like the most devastating to the boys was George Kittle and the Achilles and everything like that. What was, like we've all been out on the field

when guys get hurt, there's like a serious injury that takes place, and there's kind of like a moment of pause like three, four plays go by and everyone's like kind of looking behind their shoulder a little bit, making sure they're good. But with George just because he loves football so much in like such a pure way, it felt like way different than anybody, than anybody else as far as his leadership, the way he is a leader on the team and plays and all that.

Do you know what I'm trying to say? When you put George out, I'm thinking of my head, Fred, I mean, Fred one, it was like. No, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There wasn't one that was more devastating than the, you know, there was. There wasn't one that was more devastating than the other. And we lost Bosa pretty early. We lost George week one.

We lost Brock after week one. And then we lost Fred, I think, three weeks later, lost Bosa. I forget what week early. Ricky dealt with some struggles. There wasn't one more devastating than the other. You know, anytime, and I think it's because we've all been through it before. When you can't play, man, it's grueling. You know, it sucks.

It really does. Because having to watch your team play football is a pretty miserable experience, especially when you love football as much as all those guys I just mentioned do. And I've been there, man. It's, it sucks. You don't feel like you're a part of the team. You kind of just feel like an outsider watching. And it was so cool to see the leadership from George when he wasn't playing, the leadership from Fredman wasn't playing, how they were still active in the locker room, still active in meetings, still had so much hope. all the feeling of the outside of like oh i'm so sorry like nobody felt like that you know you talk to george about his injuries and you know oh i'm fine i'll be just fine you know he's he's he's as upbeat as anybody i'll be just i'll be back and sit whatever it is six weeks i'll be fine i'll be ready to go even his achilles stuff yeah i'll be i'll be ready week one he's he's like dialed in and happy and you're like oh and now we have hope but i think if you if you have leaders

like that and they they do it the other way where it's depressing and it's a you know even that mentality as hard as it probably is for them to put a smile on in a lot of moments they do it and i think they do it so that we don't see how sad they are and we continue to have hope that hey we can still do this and there's you know fred's coaching up the other guys uh bosa's helping michael out then we lose michael which was a huge huge shot but that room is still playing hard so it's you know as much as it sucked it was a great reminder for me of the fundamentals of football will always win games and that's a good culture you know blocking and tackling playing as hard as you can and practicing as hard as you can and selling out yeah george said

his wife's mad at us why because we did the whole what would you do anything for we're talking about super bowl and i was like would you go on i are in like we last week of the season if it meant the team could win the super bowl and he was like yes and i'm like i don't know why she's mad at me the football guys obviously didn't deliver they're into the bargain. But he sent me the clip. I'm like, I was like, I just put Laf out loud what I do.

And he sent the clip. He's like, yeah, you guys are owner's shit list. And I'm like, that's fair. But if I could pass the blame, I put that on the football gods. Yeah.

We probably shouldn't have asked the question. I think that's where we could kind of fall back. Would you take a season ending? No, it's a bad question. It's a bad question. Yeah, yeah. We're not going to ask that.

We're not going to ask that question. Bad ball. We're not going to ask that question. gods. That's on us. That's on us. And we'll take full responsibility for George Kittles' injury this year. God. Claire, we are sorry. We are.

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look good, feel good, play good. Let's get back to the episode. Hey, let's just, let's just ask, Power Station. Let's, let's pretend the cameras are off. Let's be in the locker room. Game me up on the EMS. You see the meme where it's like, son, once you start, there's no going back.

Yeah. doing a will right now because i've been in the locker rooms we all know whether whatever whatever when you find anything that can allow you to be one percent better any edge anything they can bring you down anything you want it out of your out of your life so as this stuff is blowing up i'm like surely there's got to be something to this and there's no way knowing the rabbit holes that we go down in the off season to eliminate you know you're getting the jokes so you turn off the Wi-Fi or you go I guess cut the router, cut the wires or you don't want any Wi-Fi around you

while you sleep. Which, by the way, is a heady play. That's a heady play. Where the necklace I don't want to be known. It is tag. Yes. Yes. But if it's becoming news to the public, you know the boys are in the locker room, like, sitting there being like, hey, I thought I felt my hamstring get a little tighter when I signed

here last year. The minute they get up the practice field, there might be grounding mats all over the locker and like, all right, get on this immediate. You have to. Need to. But knowing, like, understanding that that, that, that, that game within the game within the game from a player side like what are the thoughts on the power station here's a deal there's too many variables to say that like this power station is is what's causing an engine there's too many variables i don't know if there is i listen it the same way is

you know not drinking water is bad for you right so you're going to drink water but but but we we have our phones attached to us all the time right that's also bad for you do people you know is that is that what it is, is it, is it maybe you didn't get enough sleep. Maybe you took a wrong hit. Now you're compensating. You didn't feel it, but now you're, Fred got rolled up on. It's not like a, you know, what are you going to do? That's, that's just, that's brutal. There's, and in my opinion, right, like, I look at everything as something, like the lights in this room, that light right there. Is that dehydrating in a weird? I don't know, I don't know, but maybe it is. And so for me, like you mentioned, I turned the Wi-Fi off. I don't always do that. I mentioned it to Fred.

a couple times and he went out and telling the world that I've turned my Wi-Fi off. We'll turn it off on your phone. Are you going to the route? You're going to the router and you're shutting it down. Again, I'm not a doctor, not a scientist. I've done the same amount of research as probably anybody else. And I have yet to come to any solid conclusions worth publicizing on a podcast. Right?

So that's where I'm at. But you're on busing. So there's a level of... Let me tell you this right now. Like if I... If I wasn't on the Niners and someone was like, hey, dude,

knowing all this, do you want to go play for the Niners? I would jump to go play for the Niners. Yes. This... And that's where it's frustrating for us because we're like, dude, like I read something

it's like free agents are... Is this something free agents should consider before signing the Niners? I'm like... No, that's like, hey, it's too shut the hell up about the power station.

Like, we want to get good guys to come to... There's nothing... You know, Fred trains are all year around. He's been healthy seven years. You guys, train there all your again people forget guys go off into their own states in the off season

and do their own training and there's and you know you're not with the team all the time what happened in practice that's something out you get rolled up on a little bit in practice like is it I look at it as we had a really shitty year when it comes to injuries some years are like that

for a lot of teams you know and to say that it's caused by one thing I think is too broad of a statement I agree with that that part right there that you got you got a tag or so there's do you have an airs tag you got a little airs time I had it I had it on the top of you got something yeah show us your phone I said he said I got something I got a case on my phone yeah blocks all the mf blocks EMF blocking a regular phone case just a couple some stuff underneath yeah I don't disagree with you that like one thing it's never one thing it's never one and I think as somebody

who's gone through injuries you can drive yourself mad trying to figure out, you know, hey, I need to do this differently. It's like, you better be right about your assumption. Otherwise, you're going to change a lot of stuff that you really didn't need to change. You know, what if you just got unlucky? What if, what if, you know, and that's where it's, that's where it's so difficult. And I think that's the biggest challenge for us is knowing what to do and when to do it and kind of trusting that process throughout an offseason. And dude, when you start to go through the, like the biohacking world and just like, finding out more and more about health, like being in high school.

You didn't because your dad, but I'd have to be like, yo, KFC, like, that's chicken, that's protein. You'd eat that. And then you, like, get another level like, oh, by the way, do you guys know fried chicken's bad for you? And then you kind of like, hey, stop eating white bread. Yeah, but wheat bread. And it's like enriched flour. Oh, I got to look and see if it's enriched on there.

Then you start learning about gluten and all these, all these different things. So there's layer after layer after layer. And so, yeah, when you get injured, that's when the brain and like the conspiracy theory of yours are always trying to get better. what's enough. And to me, it's like, if I could take out every bad variable, I absolutely would. But then everything, the phone, the cell phone tower, you know, the sheets. Is it 100% cotton?

No, it's a tri-blend. And that means there's this in there. And you just, it's everything, dude. Everything. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You've done your research. Oh, dude. You just mentioned a lot of stuff.

Yeah, because we, we, like, that was kind of like one of the foundational pieces of our friendship. Yeah. It was like when we started talking about podcasts, Be Rogan, blah, well, hey, Ben, do you know about Ben Greenfield? Yeah, I do. So we started doing a kind of billow-buddy stuff where it's like we're doing HGH, like protocols from sauna and coal tub.

And then you start to learn about water. Like generally, water is good for you. But by the way, microplastics and all this. You have to get a filter, but then there's Kangan water. Yeah. All these things. Hey, if we're going to be in a hotel room during training camp, the entire hotel room set up, you get the red light, you got a cooling pad.

You got, you're doing all this stuff. I legit. I legit. I legit. Yeah, all right. Block EMF. And I know how people are going to go. Listen, but yeah.

But that's what I mean. Like it's because I feel like sometimes when we start talking about health and wellness, you know, you get the, you get the comments like, these guys are idiot. These guys went to college. Like these guy went to Stanford. He turns if he's an idiot. I'm like, you know, our body is our job. Like being healthy 100% of the time is our job.

That's what you do for a living. Like you'll look at anything and everything. And so, and that's where I've gotten to the point of is this electrical. substation like such a big deal. I'm like again knowing what I know there is too many variables that happen for for you to say yeah this is this is a major whatever so um but no I would say too and I'll just speak I'm speaking for myself there is a lot of variables but as that thing potentially being a variable there is like you know I would say from my own players perspective there's an appreciation that some of it is like getting some traction to at least allow people

to talk about, think about it, dive into it, to learn a little bit more on, you know, that being the case. Because when people are telling me, it's like, oh, yeah, we'll be sitting there talking with Delaney. And I'm like, is it true? I won't even look at you so that way you don't feel like you're part of it. And I'm like, is it true that this power station,

all the trees and planes and stuff are like dead compared to the other side. He's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, that's, you're just happy that it's a conversation being talked about on behalf of the players. Because once he's getting Christian's not here right now. He's not here. If you're the ownership of the 49ers and your goal is,

to a hoisted Lombardi trophy. Hoisted Lombardi trophy. It's like we need to do everything we possibly can to make sure our players are ready every single Sunday in the fall. And if this is contributing negatively to this, then we should probably look at maybe relocating. Not San Francisco relocation,

but just like, let's move a couple blocks away. Right, right. That's it. Right. You want to bring them back in? Yeah. So you're... I'd love to come back in.

You'd allow me? Yeah, yeah. If you want to be, I was more like a protection thing. I would love to come back in. This is... Because I think it's a two-fold, right? Like, guys live in apartment buildings. Well, that's,

flooded with Wi-Fi and 5G, even if you turn yours off in your room, you still have all these other places, right? So it's, again, like, that's, if we're, if we're, if we're, if we're, he's right. If I'm literally a rookie. If we're going into this and that is, you know, and so where I, where I like to do my research now is being around, you know, all of these things that us three don't know about, being around all the, all the, all the non-seen energy, the, the 5G, the that's inevitable. If you live in a city, you're around it. If you have your phone on you at all times and you're looking at the screen, you're around it all the time. You watch TV.

You're, it's all the time. How can you combat it is more the question. Like, okay, if you, you know, let's just say that it is something. Well, what does it do? And why does it cause it? It's like, uh, maybe it, you know, it might pull electric. I'm making stuff up. I'm just talking.

Right. Because I'm an idiot and I don't know anything. But maybe it's pulling electrons from you, from yourselves, which are big in hydration. It's why grounding is important. You're charging the electrons, which allow you to hold water, hold electrolytes. It's all in the language. Electromagnetic field, electrolytes, magnetic field, magnesium, a great mineral, helps with muscle recovery, helps with water retention, all these things.

Right? If that's what it's doing and it's point, maybe you need to up your electrolyte intake and that's it. Maybe that's what it is, right? So it's, and that's where it's like, okay, is it a huge factor? Not if you hydrate properly. Okay, well, then hydrate properly. It's something that simple.

So I think sometimes we get, you know, we come up with these massive conclusions that that really go back to the simplest things when it comes to health and wellness. And you mentioned the challenge of how many things out there there are. You listen to a podcast, it tells you one thing. You listen to another. It tells you another. You read stuff. Well, now it's saying it's not true.

The food pyramid, all these things. We're evolving every single day. So for someone to say, I have the answers. Like, I'd like, you know, there's a lot of people saying they're. have the answers. Who do you listen to? And again, that's the challenge. And so I think understanding physics, understanding biomechanics, biochemistry, understanding that stuff will help you yourself because now you know what things do. So I don't know. I mean, again, I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm spewinging nothing. I'll tell you what the haters are out there swinging at air watching

you just cook right there. Yeah, no, no. That is a Stanford education popping up. Again, I don't know anything. I want to make that clear. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist and I don't know anything. I'm just saying, this is all hypothetical. Yeah. And if I'm a young player, when we were, as all of us young players and you gravitate towards veterans or guys who have success in the league and you're like, I need a mimic. Like one of mine was like Ryan Kerrigan. He was one of the cleanest guys out there as far as work ethic, eating and everything else.

And you're kind of watching his habits. If I'm sitting there as a young cat on the P Squad or my rookie year and I'm hearing Ryan on a podcast talking about, yeah, it's to the point if you're staying in an apartment or a hotel and I'm sitting there living in an apartment or a hotel. I'm thinking, I got to get my ass out of it. Get out of here as fast as possible. Yes. Or again, because that's, you know, I can't go live in, you know, close to the equator

where the sun is at its purest form because it has less layers of atmosphere to run through. I can't go live there. I live, I live in the U.S. So what can, it's not about like you got to get out of the hotel. Hey, if you're in a hotel again, like in the morning, get outside a little bit. Go get your feet in some ground and look at the sun. whatever you got i mean i don't i don't do that every day either i mean i do get out in the sun first thing in the morning i like the way i feel when i do it i do my hot tub my cold tub all the pool

stuff whatever i like being outside first thing in the morning um but i'm not like you know i need to get away from all this again it's inevitable it's part of our life so it's just it's more about how you can manage those things more than anything yeah two things are important educate yourself as much as you want on these things because like everybody wants to be healthier whether they do it or not as relevant, but people in general like, hey, do you want to be healthy? They would say, yeah, I want to be healthy.

And the next thing is, is like, once you have the information, do as much as you want, but at some point it's going to be like, you've got to live your life as well. At some point, you've got to order that pizza at midnight. Yeah, exactly. Eventually, there's going to be a mint chocolate chip,

ice cream. I think the biggest effect on athletes in today's day and age is stress. And I think the more you can manage that stress, which means sometimes snag that pizza. Snag. If that's going to give you like, I mean, there's a middle ground. Don't get me wrong. But I, every time I've been so neurotic about every little thing all the time, you can never really enjoy the whole reason of why you're here. You know what I mean? And so that's why it's when you're,

I give a long answer about the substation. But that's why I don't, I'm not, I hate when people make it as if like this substation is the biggest deal on the planet. It's like, hey, man, just drink a little bit more water if you think it's a big deal with electrolytes in it. And, And, you know, try not to be on your phone as much next. The conversations, for me, it's over. And also, and also, like, you see guys come in all the time. We had a lot of injuries. We also had a lot of guys healthy who played a lot of snaps and didn't have anything wrong with them the whole year.

What about them? Why didn't it affect them? That's, like, that's a genuine question that needs an answer. Yeah. So that's why I was like, you know what, man? I don't know. You know what sounds like? It sounds like Christians had a long week on Radio Row.

I did. I forgot we're on camera. This is bad. Sounds like, it sounds like, you guys got me. You got me. It sounds like people have really been just like only asking you about this. We can edit this in post and just,

can we redo the question? Dude, but yay, you're right. Like, if it's an issue, do something that you think wouldn't negate the, like level out the issue.

Move on. Onward. Onward, man. That's it. How does Christian McCaffrey reliefs, stress. Talk about the pizza. We know you're a mint chocolate chip guy. If you're like, man, I had a long season. I like cookies and cream better than mint chocolate chip. I thought you said

mint chocolate chip is next one. But I also do like mint chocolate chip. And you didn't like mint chocolate chip because you said it tastes like, too things. Taylor combated that with like he just likes vanilla and caramel is my favorite. Spinkles is where I draw the line. Can't do it. I completely deters it first off. It's not, it doesn't, it's not. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's shouldn't be a texture that goes on ice cream. It's sad for me to see a grown man lose his childhood. Never was in my childhood. Didn't like it as a child.

Your dad never let you have ice cream in your childhood. No, see, I gave my dad a bad rap. My dad would let us have ice cream. Hey, how are we again? How were the family conversations after? My dad's like, dude, you guys exaggerate the shit out of the stories. I'm getting rid. That's so funny.

It's like, you can fucking go to bed at 7.30. What are you talking about? I'm like, yeah, I made for a better story. Yeah. Yeah. The coat can in the woods. That's real. That was real.

Getting tackled by one arm. That was real. Yeah. But you know what? This is what didn't get understood contextually was we loved it. Like we were all over it. Like, dude, what else? You know what I mean?

Like I didn't want to get Jersey tackled. Oh my God. We're taping our pads. Next thing you know, my whole team was taping the pads. So he's like, look, he wouldn't have done it if we didn't love it. You know what I mean? And obviously sometimes they're like, dude, what are we doing? But again, I was like, I, you know, he said, I'm not supposed to be here.

Like, I always felt like that. Like, I need to do everything under the sun to be as best as I can. That's how he was in his career. You know, he was the same way. He's like, hey, man, I need, he would, you know, again, he'd cut the little things off his cleats just to kill dead weight, you know, and wear the kicker pads to make them that much faster. Like, that's how he thought and that's how he played.

and help win three Super Bowls and do all these things and I'm like, man, that sounds fun. I'd rather do that than not. Why don't I listen? And we really did own it. We're like, dude, what else can we do? That would help.

You know Ed McCaffrey, hates cell phone towers. Chase every edge you can, dude. Every edge you possibly can. That's what it is. It's chasing edges. That's it. What else we got?

I'm talking way, you guys give me to talk to it. much. I'm spewing, man. I'm spewing right now. But you're also spitting. I think you're putting a good bow. No food. Straight, probably quad espresso at this point. Just going. You're hot just on caffeine today. Just caffeine. Intermitt fasting. Finding the edges. Not on purpose though. Like again, I'm not training right now. It's the week of the Super Bowl. It's hectic radio row. I'm going to, I had a 6 p.m. coffee yesterday. That goes against all my rules, but it felt good.

I feel like a guy who could hit caffeine late at night and still go to sleep easy. Yeah. I mean, I slept great. Yeah. I'm a cut out, try to cut off by noon. But you get in these situations like Super Bowl weekend. It's just like longer nights, earlier mornings. Yeah.

That's what I'm like, you know what? It's all at the window at this point. What does when you are in it? What is a regimented Christian McCaffrey day in the life look like for you? When you're on your own too, not like it, I'm not talking like during the week of football or anything else. Like when you're at your peak, the thing that you, yeah, in the off season where you're like excited to fucking get it going. Yeah, I honestly, man, it's, it was really cool last year because, um, I, my trainers, I just, whatever they tell me to do, I do it.

And it's, it really, it's long days. So we structured it as, you know, you wake up. I do the, you know, usually go contrast, hot cold, hot cold, hot cold. Um, and then I'll do some pool mobility stuff in the morning and then, uh, eat, digest. that's important though i don't even go right to the run you know yeah yeah yeah 30 to 45 yeah yeah what times the day start is there like a i like sleep man i'm not great at sleeping in but i try to sleep as long as i can i so what time are you going to bed though i try to go to bed like nine nine to ten okay nine to tenish okay um if i were to if i were to do it right i i feel like going to bed

with the sun waking up with the sun yeah that's a good way of life yeah i feel like that's a good way of life and uh but no i don't do that i go nine nine to tenish i wake up around seven to eight go through that whole process eat usually running at like 10 30ish um so we'll do all our field work whatever that is i'll come back um eat again treatment nap maybe come back and lift in the afternoon, eat again, any treatment. Usually there's not a whole lot of treatment after the lift. And then at night, do like a little pool,

pool flush workout. He loves the pool, man. You don't know how big it is. I mean, you're, you've been a cat, been at the top of the game for a long time. So I feel like, even though it seems small, explaining all that, I feel like any, like, young athletes

or anybody that gravitates towards listening to what your daily routine could be, I feel like that could be like Bible for them. Like, this is how CMC does it. Yeah. Well, this is what I'll say. too because and this is why I'm like I get that question a lot like how do you train and people like I want to copy how you train I'm like it really is not that simple right because I'm at my own

spot in my career my own spot in my journey physically and you know you get high school kids that you might have to do something completely different than me and there's not like a there's not a set program of training where this is what you should follow from January till August it's not that easy man because you know there's again I keep saying that it sound redundant but there's there's too many variables that go into it what are your mechanics like you might need mechanical changes that take two weeks to fix before you even start to do this program right like these drills there's meaning and purpose behind the drills and that's why like anything I'm not a trainer so I need a trainer I need somebody to watch me and correct me where I'm wrong otherwise you're developing bad habits

and so that's part of training too like you know oh what do you do for training it's like dude if you really want to know like spend an off season with us that's the only way to really understand you know how I do it but again I I've I said this the other day like I've played with hall of famers first ballot who they did it completely different than me their first ballot hall of famers like some clearly it whatever they did work like or they just train differently yeah they still train hard but they trained but they committed to a program they trusted it and they did it And I think that's more important than me saying, you should do three sets of 10 here,

four set. Like that's, I think that can be, that can be dangerous to give, because, yeah, it can be dangerous. Mm-hmm.

Because you usually evolved over time, developed over time. Yeah, for sure, it changes all the time. Yeah. Listen to the guys like Clay Matthews, talking about like Julius Peppers

who would just kind of walk in the weight room. Dude, I got a Julius Pepper story. Do you? I played with him in Carolina. Yeah, yeah, I was lucky enough to play.

I played against him when you guys, he was in Carolina. Yeah. Dude, I remember him getting, I remember getting a three points dance, like one of the first snaps of the game, and he got in a three point stance. And I looked at my form and his form, and I was like, this is unfair. No, yeah.

Yeah, like, that's somebody, that was like the first guy saw when I walked in the locker room when I got drafted. And I was like, I was 20. And I look at Julius Peppers, and I was like, all right, you got to lock in because that's crazy. But I remember a couple years later, I was like, hey, man, what do you do to train in the off season? It's like the first time I ever talked to him. He's so intimidating. He's a nicest guy ever, though. And he goes, and he's got like the Andre the giant voice.

And he's like, the off seasons for resting the muscles. I was like, dude, oh my God. He didn't do shit, did he? I don't know what he did. He just rested his muscles. One of the few convos I've had with them. God. But no, that was, yeah, that's how he did it.

And again, you know, that's Julius Pepper is one of the best football players of all time. I personally, if I just rested my muscles, that's when that would show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't show. I can't do it. I mean, I'd love to be able to do that. I can't. That's just not me. So no, but that's what I mean. That's why it's like, dude, I train differently than other guys. I ask other guys all the time, what do you do for training? I play basketball. Damn, that's sick. Yeah. They just go out and play different sports. You think these guys are worried about a substation? No. Yeah. No shot. Not at all.

No, not one bit. I was the craziest thing when dudes were like, go have fun to train. I'm gonna go play basketball. Go play basketball. Yeah. Go play basketball.

What do you? I run the beach. You play spike ball for three hours. I run routes. I'll do ladders and play hoops. I'm like, that sounds like the best off season of all time. Yeah.

Just have a good time. Yeah. So was it, wasn't it Julius Peppers who told Luke Kikley that he's getting in the Hall of Fame? God, that's big time, man.

Shut out, Luke. Friend of the show. Friend of the boys. The best. Yeah. Would he do that in practice all the time when he would just call out plays 24-7? Yeah. Was he just, we'll see one of the guys like Max Crosby.

They would say like, hey, during practice, if you want to get something done, just like take him out of practice for a little bit. This is what I'll say about Luke. And this is why to me he's, first off, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, he's classic Luke. I mean, I'm obviously honored. I get pissed off because I'm like, that's a first ballot, not a second. That's a first ballot hall of famer. It's one of the best football players I've ever seen.

he could have wrecked every practice, but he understood the need to give the offenses a look, and he was the best practice player I've ever been around. Like he wasn't, he would do his job, and on tape you'd be like, well, Luke would have made that tackle, but he tagged off or he like let you finish the play. Like he wasn't like, when it was time to go, I mean, he'd kill you. He'd do whatever he wanted.

And I think I mentioned this the other day on another show, but Luke was cool is such a special player because people talk about how smart he was like oh Luke is so smart he calls out plays he knew where the play was going but people don't give him enough credit for how physically unbelievable he was like I would watch him box jump boxes his height and run like 4-4 like he was insane he was an unbelievable athlete shredded all all the things that you would want in a linebacker he was those two But because he was so smart, that's all people talk about. But he was an absolute freak, man.

God. Yeah, you know why? He's a head-up guy. That's what they would be like, oh, he's a, his brain is his superpower. He's got to be smart. Yeah, got to be smart. But yeah, you're right. To have all the other things.

But, no, I mean, whatever the reasoning is, I think, you know, I got to see, I think we all got to see it who played with him firsthand. Like, when you combine his intelligence with that athletic ability, you have Luke Keekeley, you know. Yeah. Yeah. he's a monster. Mount Rushmore backers. Yeah.

How was, um, you talk about your daughter, your kid? Daughter? How was your, your mindset changed since like having a kid? Like when you're,

when you're young and you're playing, like the off season's yours, you go training, you hang out the boys and then you end up married kids, the whole thing. Especially when you have a regiment that's dialed in around your life. And now this kid's like,

three, four months old, whenever it is during the season, you're like, you come home and it's like, I usually do, I remember it usually do this, but I have to have time.

Like, It's very difficult having kids when I was playing. It's like it's very difficult to find that balance. How have you found that balance in the game? Well, I think coming home and watching her smile at you, notice the world, like you can't help but spend 30 minutes or an hour with her. It's the greatest gift you could ever ask. It truly is good day, bad day. It doesn't matter.

You come home and you're like, this is what life's about. You know, you're playing with her and holding her. and it's such a good reminder about how much bigger life is than football. But, you know, honestly, I got to give a lot of credit to my wife because whatever I have to do for football, I do it. And she holds it down, to be honest with you. You know, I, you know, we all have a certain amount of time we can play the game. And I'm like, look, I'm going to maximize this.

This is what needs to get done in order for me to play on Sunday. You know, and I try to be proactive with it. I'm not like scheduling stuff at 7 p.m. You know, when I don't need to. If I can do it earlier so that I can spend some time with them at home, I will. But no, she holds it down for sure. She always lets me, hey, do you do what you need to do? Like, get right.

Yeah. It's so important having a partner that is. You're right down for the call. The position of life that you're in, how it is, not for long. And then eventually you're going to have to hang up this isn't like I can just do this forever. And for them to understand that and take on, you know, 80, 90% during the football season. Like people who have that, like you and I have. or I had you have is it's extremely special to have that and it just it just breeds success long

term in a marriage and they two have each other's back how's the how's the how's the swaddle game um swaddle game's not great no we did we got we got we got the velcroes she's done with swaddling to be okay so she's not in the swaddling but now you're watching the film on your swaddling how could you i just knew it wasn't great i could tell it wasn't great i'll be but my wife's was in fantastic like unbelievable and I always felt like mine was different and definitely worse but that's good for her character like you can't just be so perfectly swaddled all the time like smart you need a little bit of adversity yeah and my that was my yeah no yep exactly what is she'll be better for it what the quality you have go ahead i was just going to say she's sleeping through the night she's

yeah six months that's great that's great that's awesome sleeping great it's good for the wife yeah what's your like your superpower quality that you have as a father early in the game. My mind was kids up late at night, wife's super tired, you need someone to put that baby to sleep, I can turn my brain off and just stare at a wall for two hours while this kid just cries in my arms. And that baby would eventually go to sleep.

That's underrated one of the best parts about being a dad is, or you get the nap. Like, oh yeah, I'll give her the nap. I'll put her down for a nap and you're right there with, you know, like, I get a nap. Like, this is fantastic. And quiet too.

You take the nap too. And so it's, and No, because she's asleep, no one bugs you. So you're napping now. Yeah. In peace. So the superpower is taking a nap with your kid? Yeah. It's a good dad hack.

Shout out for the dad. Shut up. Shut up. Yeah. I don't know if that's my super. Superpower would be, I don't know, man. Need time to think about it. You haven't had food.

Haven't had food. You haven't had food. You haven't had food. 12 espressoes. 12 espresso's. I'm good, though. I don't have one, I don't have one superpower. I think it's more good at a lot.

having perfected one quality and I'm willing to look you guys in the face and tell you that. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Jack of all trades. I'm still new. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. We get in the rollover. Is she rolling over? We crawl in. She's rolling. She loves rolling. She loves moving. She likes jumping on her little, you know, the little bouncy thing. Yeah, the bounce. Yeah. Love jumping. But I'm trying to get her to crawl before she wants to stand.

So I'm trying to get her to respect progressions. Get her to crawl before she slips off. Right. You know, get the right dors flexion in the foot. You want the correct angles. We can't bad habits. We can't have that. Right. We had to have a trainer.

That's why I'm here. How are we going to be with sports? Are we going to, in the words of Dave Luan, my father, we're going to give them every opportunity to love sports? Yeah. Yeah. I think sports are the best way for a kid to grow and develop and succeed in society. Agreed.

Yeah. Love that. Whether you're good or not. It doesn't even matter if you're good or not. I actually think it's good if you're bad. My oldest, I think I made a mistake, and I'll tell you my mistake. I'll be vulnerable with you. Please.

Please. I was putting them in like gymnastics. Like my kids, you see how tall I am. I didn't really have body control until I was like about 16 years old. And that's when things started really work out for me. Before then, it's a Bambi on the ice. I couldn't figure out my poor kids. They have that trade as well.

So my oldest put her in soccer. She's asking the coach if both teams can just share the ball for a little bit. I put her in, you know, gymnastics. The kids are this tall. she's this tall it just looks a little bit different so i'm like trying to press her on hey let's go outside let's throw the ball let's go kick the ball let's go do these things and then i'm watching playoff hockey with her last april and i'm sitting there and i'm just giving her a whole thing like if you want you could be great if you want to play sports i'm just telling you like your old man did it

i can see it in you and my daughter sits back and she just goes you know what damn i think i'm just going to be me. And that was the moment I was like, we're done here. This is, we don't have a fighting chance right now for. How'd that feel? It felt like my, I just lost a lot of money because I had to pay for school. That's what, that's what it felt like. It was heartbreaking. But also, now she's in jiu-jitsu and she's kind of beaten ass. Dude, it was, that's the thing about when is she has like crazy perspective for an eight-year-old. She sits back and just kind of dials it in. But yeah, we got her in jiu-tzu, and she does, she's all about that right now. She's like, she likes individual sports. So she's getting in sport. She's getting in sports. She's getting in

sport yes singular jiu-jitsu is the sickest thing for a kid to do though like that's that is cool yeah at least it's not i mean i hate by the way never mind i can't say that's going to come back to haunt me don't worry about public perceptions that might come back to haunt me if i say at least she because my daughter you never know she might be like i don't want to play sports you're right you do so let me just stop there yeah because i don't care what my you know i also am going to stop there yeah That's casual. I don't care of my, you know, maybe I do, I'm stopping.

Let me just respect time. Being an individual myself who has been in sports my entire life and like all I really knew was sports, having a kid that is like into piano, into art, songwriting class, doing a little bit of jujuts. Like she's doing so many things that's like, it becomes fun because you're doing,

you're now doing things like, hey, I can't help you, but I can like be a part of these things with you. And that is a very fun thing as a father. Yeah. The best part about, growing up, the best part about football growing up was playing basketball and baseball. Because if you loved football, you waited. You weren't doing it all the time. Like you got to

escape it, put your mind on something else, then go to baseball or track, whatever it was. Then you know, come back to it. So I completely agree with you. I think doing a bunch of different stuff's important. Yeah, you'd be itching as a young buck, as a young jet, just waiting for football season to come back around because baseball basketball basketball, you could do those things all year round. And then as you get older, it gets forced on you a little bit more fall ball, you know, summer, but you're playing all throughout the season. Then if it's snowing in the wintertime, a dad has got a massive warehouse or garage door hitting batting cage. You're throwing the heavier baseballs. I always hated the indoor batting cage practice. Yeah. You get the, you get the gas

heaters. Is that just me? You're like, it's always dark lit, like some gritty warehouse, which I respect the setting but it always felt like we should be doing something else like this should be another sport time like baseball season's baseball season and it's not baseball season this being like you know the fall or whatever and it's the baseball season it's not in the fall anymore is it's spring spring spring yeah and you're like you know i shouldn't be doing bp right now i should be playing something else in outside yeah in the snow because you're right in the cages it's you know quiet you might have the gas that a huge heater just blowing And then you just be hearing the crack of the bat and everything else.

But it felt a little bit more transactional than then you're in there actually playing sports with the fellas. Yeah, I never, Arizona was, you go outside. You went to the, uh, there's always like a couple of vending machines at the front. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? A couple vending machines. There's the water fountain. It's like kind of broken, but you can still get some out of there.

You hear the mound kind of hitting the concrete because there's just a, you know, a manufactured mound. out there. Yeah, it's like your boy's dad loves this. Yeah. Like a little too much. He's the pitcher and he's like loving it. Talking about your hips and your step and your base and all of it constantly. Oh, I can feel those moments right now.

I'm reliving them. It's like you hear the crack of the bat and you hear another one, a couple bays down. Yeah. Older guys are four four bays down. Yeah. Having BP. Talking about your hands just getting them over. Good times.

Can't catch pop flies either, which was always a weird. Right. Love pop. Pop flies. Love pop flies. Big pop fly guys. Pop flies much better than grounders. Yeah.

A ground is terrified. Take one off the chin. Bleeding all over the place. Yeah. Get hit in the mouth. Then you get to play Pepper. Pepper's a good game. What's pepper?

It's like all the boys are like lined up along the fence and essentially like, you know, the coaches out there. It's a game you're trying to be the last one standing, but they're hitting like these little ground balls and you can't bobble at all. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And the minute you bobble, you're,

eliminated so then it keeps going down and down the pressure rises a spotlight gets a little brighter it's like who can be the last man standing you might catch your boy might catch an easy one you might get out on a hard one and you're just devastated because you're like man ain't nobody field in this football player the game as coach like him better than he wanted me to fail right here yeah that's we weed that out sounds like my childhood wasn't as dope as your guys just like that memory lane i saw you guys go back in time for a minute i wish i appreciated baseball more as a kid saying because i always thought man, baseball's boring. Baseball's boring.

But like, it really is just a built-in smelt with your boys. Yeah. Like, you're just hanging out with your buddies, chewing seeds. Like, if you ever wanted to hang out with your buddies, play baseball with your buddies. It's a minimal effort game. And I didn't play in high school. I ran track instead. And looking back, I'm like, I wish I could have just shown up for the meets and then

played baseball. Right. Yeah. Because all of my football buddies played baseball. And when track would end and they were still in it, we'd go and, throw like a grill at right field and we would grill brats cheddar brots and we would just talk shit to whoever the opposing team's right fielder was and it was like it's awesome baseball is awesome a great pastime you're right too especially when new flavors of seeds are coming out and you're

like oh i got some buffalo you're like buffalo the weather the weather was good yeah they pull out a massive bag first time someone pops up pickle flavor on you're like i don't know if that's gonna be yeah no shot then you have it and you're like holy shit pickle rips Now you're kind of searching for pickle. Yeah. Mixed flavor. It wasn't a mixed guy to be on. I was going to say I wasn't a mixed guy.

The mix of seed sounds crazy. That does sound fire. Or in Little League, like you get done with your game and they're like, oh, everybody's getting a snow cone at the concession stand. You're all just sprinting to get to the concession. There would be two diamonds and then right in the middle it would be a concession stand and you go get yourself nerd ropes and a hot dog. And you're like, boys, we're truly living right now.

So it was all about. Mixing. seeds. Hey, when you said nacho and ranch mixing seeds, though, I thought that was a nice little move. That has the potential.

I've never done it, but. No, I do think that's a nice conversation. I do think that sounds like a nice combo, but just hearing mixing seeds. Because you're reminiscent, I'm just thinking all these different seeds in your mouth.

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. How about recess, man? Do the smell of metal on your hands? Yeah. From the bars? playing that one game

when you just throw the ball in the air whoever catches it gotta tackle them and you talk to that in there trying to throw a peek at your crush and the minute she makes eye contact with you look away playing tag

playing tag with your crush you tag her she goes for some other dude devastating news yeah and she's running away and you're like there are tagbacks you like no I tag you understand that you understand what's going on here you know what the game is right now right

writing notes back in the day oh my god you leave the game of tag and you just go with the boys to go play full on tackle football because you're pissed off. Yeah. Because you're pissed off.

Yeah. And you have 12 touchdowns in 17 minutes. Yeah, you just make like a level plane and you kind of walk over like, yo, does she know I'm the alpha on this field right now? Yeah. You have sweat stains in your khakis. Oh, notes. Notes ripped.

You're like walking by and you're like, what would you write on these notes? A lot of different things, man. I might be in the relationship and you're writing notes back and forth. I might be, you know, chasing where you got the yes or no box. Oh, you're your straight song. That's a forced response. You're your straight song on that. How about aim?

I was an MSN messenger cat. Whatever, it's on the computer, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it was AIMs, there moments where you could like, something might crazy happen, then you immediately sign off and then sign back on and your username might be,

I just got hacked. Dude. Not having the stones to talk to a girl at school, but then you go on like AOL and he started messaging. He was just the craziest game ever. Yeah. You see you're in person and you're like, hey. You give her that half hug?

Yeah. You go up to your boys. Who's that? That's my girlfriend. Yeah. You literally would ask girls out on AOL. You want to be my girlfriend? Yes.

You'd be asking. I got immediately, I got to go L. Y, I'm out of here. Yeah. G2G. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You hit him with the LYL and then you kind of wait to see if they respond and say it back. And then I don't. They're like, I got to get out of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh shit. You got a roll? I just look at the time.

You got a roll? Oh. Yeah. What are you going? Dude, I got... Do you have something to do today? Yeah. You'd be asked...

You'd be asked. I got Visa at 2.15. Like, in like an hour drive. Will you flash me? How insane is it getting around this fucking town? Hey, you heard me? You'd be on it. You bet, will you flash me?

Like, this is so-and-so's father. That's when you sign all the time back on, God hack. Christian's got to go. Christian's got to go. Bud like question. People do anything for an ice cold, but light, what would Christian McCaffrey do anything for? Can't say family.

Maybe he can in this instance. Okay, you can't say a fan. My daughter. There we go. Bang. Bang. Hell of a show. Hey, you're the man.

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