Bussin' With The Boys - Christian McCaffrey Talks What It Was Like To Be Traded From The Panthers & How He Feels About The NFC Championship Game

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

Recorded: February 7th 2023 | On this weeks episode the Boys recap the Jake Paul and Tommy Fury fight. Following the intro, Christian McCaffrey joins the boys in Arizona. McCaffrey has been a boy and a supporter of the pod for a long time, so he talks how he became a fan. Following that we dive into the whole trade situation and the process of him getting traded from the Carolina Panthers to the San Francisco 49ers. We then get into the NFC Championship game and how Christian wishes things would have gone different. McCaffrey moves onto his childhood and what it was like growing with an NFL father and the crazy things he made them do as kids. This is a banger of a pod and we hope you feel the same. Enjoy. 0:00 Intro 34:30 how christian became a fan of the pod 36:10 49ers locker room 36:45 christian talks on the process of getting traded 43:45 transition into the 49ers 49:09 what it was like with brock purdy 19:54 - 20:41 Kid Rock story 53:05 NFC Championship 1:09:47 Stanford talk 1:12:43 How pivotal his dad was 1:20:02 When he knew he was going to the NFL 1:24:50 Does CMC Hope To Play Against Carolina And Taking Abt Matt Rhule SUPPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code BUSSIN for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply)For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's been a fan of the brand, at least, for a while. Now, I remember when Matt I and Ida sent me a photo, they were flying to go to a game on Saturday. And he's like, hey, Will, the boy, Christian, wanted me to let you know that he bought this hat look at that boy gobble that water go ahead bubbed the boy the boy christian wanted to let you know that he bought this hat

with his own money which obviously fired all of us up yeah dude because the merch has been hitting but it's great to see a gentleman like himself who could easily just DM us and be like give us one who's like he's a friend now but it's not like he was he was a friend of ours when that all happened he's just like yeah I'm a fan I want to support

come out of his own pocket speaking of merch have you have you looked behind you have you see that no oh fuck the fukin boys are back there dude boys i am fired up this is uh obviously we've had what three three st patty's day merch drops yeah this is by far the best one busting with the fukin boys it's it's outstanding fukin boys and we're putting it out early enough so that those of you who are ordering maybe garrett do us a favor tell us when we need to order that by to get it by st patty's day because

we know how deliveries work with barstool sometimes fantastic company horrible delivery services they're probably not using FedEx because I had my because I had a deal with the UPS. Well the thing is they don't have I'm fucking done with UPS by the way They don't have like the overnight option Because some things are print on demand You don't necessarily know that those are going to fly off the shelves

Because we drop a lot of merch So it's hard for them that you know They don't want to have overhead or inventory We don't have a lot of overhead stack it So we got to kind of print on demand But go ahead sorry You need probably a good cushion of 10 days 10 business days

You Gary would agree Gary, 10 business days or 10 days? Just by now. That's a great. That's a great. You know what you need to be. Listen, everyone's going to go out on St. Padys Day.

They're going to have the greatest time of their lives in Chicago. They're dying the river green. We don't know what that's going to do with the ecosystem, but we do know that they're going to have a fantastic time there worldwide, right? Everyone's Irish for that day. Kiss me if I'm Irish. You don't wear green. You get the pinch.

You get that little thing. But we're boozing. We're having a great time. We're fucking boozing out there, boys and girls. But if you're rocking one of them, you don't got to say kiss me on my wrist. You just got to say, kiss me, I'm a boy. Hey, I'm a boy. What is that merch, dude?

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So things are getting kind of serious. No, 937, you think? Nah, that's a nice. Give us a little love, dude. I'm trying to give us a little love. But if you're rocking some of our St. Paddy's Day merch, what I, what we would personally love to see is have one of your fellow mates take a video while you walk up and say, hey, kiss me, I'm a boy.

Yeah. Yeah. And you get that with the shirt while wearing the merch, I feel like that's. Game over. That's an automatic retweet in my book. That's an automatic retweet. That's an automatic retweet in the book. Viral.

You got to have that. Speaking of viral, dude, Jake Paul, lost. First time ever. First time ever. And how many? How many fights? I don't know. Four fights. He was fighting middle-aged men and YouTubers. Now, I am a fan of the Paul brothers. I'm a big fan of that, but that's like the big criticism that's coming out of there. Tommy Fury, who's a legit boxer, allegedly Dave Porter didn't think so.

He was in the Joe Rogan podcast. He said he's not. Joe Rogan is the first time I saw him get a little fiery at Dave because they were kind of in a limbo of like, are we going to be friends or not. They were courting each other in front of us for three hours. Dave was firing up, Joe. Dave was firing up. Which was nice as you watch the first. Look at it. He's not a real boxer.

He's not a real boxer. But he loses and a split decision. What I was told, what I heard, because I wasn't able to watch it yesterday. Had a great day with the kids. Didn't watch it. I heard Tommy Fury own that fight the entire time. And it wasn't a great showing.

You were surprised that it wasn't a unanimous. Really? Yeah. Well, you know, that, I mean, that's just how it world sometimes. The Doves a Dub, they don't ask how. They ask how many. That's what the fucking deal is, boys. And I did see a post-fight interview with Jake Paul.

I did not like the way he handled himself. I see, I did not get to see them. I was trying to find out. He blamed Drake for the loss. Drake put $400,000 on him the day before. The Drake curses back in effect. Back in effect. He also said, he said he had a shoulder injury.

Drake's fault. He goes, you shouldn't have bet on me. He goes, this all falls on Drake. And then he, that was like, I think more of like his, that was a joke. That was a joke. That was a joke interview. And then he was like, you know, we don't look at my wins. We look at our losses.

And I'll be back and better than ever. And he's like, my shoulder was hurt. I was like sick through Cam. He's sick twice during Cam. Every excuse in the book. And then he's like, I'm not making excuses. Right. Like, you know, so he's doing that whole thing.

And it's tough. Will Jake Paul beat my ass in a fight? No fucking question, dude. Does your boy know how to throw hands? I don't know. It's been a long time. You'll throw a fist hard and fast. I'll pull a fist hard and fast, but I get over extended quick

and I'll probably get pink, pink, two-piece. You got a lay in that fist. You got a leave now shot. I'm sure if I landed on Jake, he might go night-night-night. But also, yeah, your boy's going to catch a two-piece at a side of biscuits. That's if he's looking. If he's not looking, I guarantee I beat Jake Paul's ass. I probably get them both.

I get both the Paul brothers. But I'm a fan. I'm a fan of them. I love what they've done. Their pivots they have made. Obviously, hold the whole thing with the forest back in the day, but they were big on Vine for a little bit YouTubers. And we're big Vine boys.

Yeah, yeah. We're big Vine boys. And so I do, I didn't like the post game interview. I didn't like that. But overall, I hope the boy comes back. I hope they have another fight and I hope Jake wins. I don't know. There's people saying they don't,

wouldn't give a shit about a rematch. It's like ultimately what's the rematch about? I think it was only if Jake lost, there's a clause in the contract where he can act. Right. A legal clause in the contract. But like you almost, the somebody. They can make more money. They're going to make fucking $5 million more each probably off a rematch and pay-per-view will eat it up because it's Jake Paul and he's in the center of attention right now.

But do you think, I feel like the views and stuff would be a lot lower going to see a rematch? I'm sure they would. Because it's almost the pool to it is you want to see Jake finally beat somebody that's, got some ability in the boxing ring. Yeah, that's a professional boxer. Yeah, it's a professional boxer. Right. And since he lost to him, it's almost like, this guy, Tommy Fury, it's like, well, what does he do now?

Is he fight for the title? No, he's not even that good of a boxer in the boxing world. He just doesn't fight somebody else. Right, he just goes and fight somebody else in the middle. Shout out Tommy for making bags. Yeah, and winning. Like, there's so much fucking going on or surrounding that. And Jake's like doing the videos the night before talking about double down, double the bed.

If you win, he gets, he'll pay double. if he loses, he gets nothing, doing all this stuff. Like, hearing all that trash talk and still, like, going out there and winning. And it sounds like winning every round pretty much. Besides, like, he got knocked down for a second in the eighth round. He's down and popped up, right? But aside from that, it's like, you know, good for him on beating Jake Paul. It's like the Paul brothers, like Jake Paul specifically, he's done such a genius job of placing himself in the spotlight.

But Logan Paul, too. Well, yeah, Logan Paul, but I'm saying, like, Jake's the one out there, like, fine. Yeah, Logan Paul, he's an absolute... He fought Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. He's a little delusional about how many rounds he won, and I don't know boxing like that, but I watched that fight in it really didn't seem like...

Yeah, but either way, you're out there fighting one of the grace of all time. Arguably the greatest. The way that Paul brothers have went about their entire careers and journeys and everything, that put themselves in the middle of the spotlight. We're talking about Showtime boxing, a pay-per-view, and he's legitimately trying to box. Yes, he lost to somebody that's not considered a good boxer in the sport, but also it's like

he's out there fucking he's brought himself all the way to that now some of the antics he's done along the way I've not been a massive fan of of but you can't knock like the hustle and like the creative genius behind having all that attention on you at all times

and the antics he does too and I think that's the main specific thing I think about is suicide forest in Japan. That's Logan Paul's Logan but okay just just based off that in general Logan I thought did a phenomenal job of apologizing made a mistake and now let's move on

like let's fucking It's hilarious. You're like addressing it. Like there's some, like, Yeah, but people still bring it up. I'm bringing it up right now. Yeah, I know. You know, he apologized to me on.

I'm thinking, what's happening out there right now about the forest going on a little? Everyone, they like, they bunched, because I don't even know which one it was. And then one of them did it, and they're like, fuck the Paul brothers.

Like, dude, the Paul brothers have been absolutely genius about the way they've handled themselves. They've, they've maneuvered this game very well. I think we've sucked them off enough. Let's go to CMC. Let's go to CMC a little bit.

What an interesting conversation we had with this guy. obviously the loss was still big. He didn't care who won the big game, the Super Bowl. He didn't care who won that. But the most interesting thing to me, when it was him talking about his dad and the stories, his fucking dad, dude,

was running a fucking sweat shop in the McCaffrey house. The kids had to go to sleep at 7.30, no sweets. Oh, I was about to tell a story. He told us not to tell. Like, because he knew his dad would be upset. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they would be grounded if they were tackling. by their jersey.

It was wild. But honestly, you guys are going to love... You look at Christian now and you're like, maybe that's how we should all parent. Yeah, like, they, you know,

with Eddie McCaffer, right? Eddie. Eddie, yeah, when he became an adult, he probably started going by Ed. Yeah. Yeah. But brought my Broncos receiver, Stud.

Figured it out. Yeah. Figured it out. Yeah. He was... You can tell the McAffery family is super fucking competitive. Yeah, super competitive.

Like, you're not, getting your dinner if you're not like there on time like people are eating yeah who's eating fastest too yeah it's like oh man it's scary household it's scary household he was like you could tell he like resented that behavior when he was a kid but then like as he became an adult appreciates it that was everything they molded my future yeah incredible foundational blocks yeah but one thing too christian walked downstairs when we were in the middle of another interview that'll come out next week with Shane Gillis and Bert Kreischer. And Bert asked Shane

who he would rather either fuck or get fucked by. You were me. Yeah, yeah. Then we threw. And then you were like, hey, can you go get Christian? And you saw Shane light up like a Christmas treat, dude.

He's like, Christian who? Oh, he loves the football. Christian who. Yeah. And McCaffrey walks down and then we fucking brought him in it. And the start of this whole interview, I think, we talk about who he would fuck. Yeah.

And so, it's an amazing. It's an amazing deal. Other than that, brother. I mean, we got a lot of stuff under the hood came out. The mini golf came out. We got a lot of confidence. We got a lot of fun. There's so much more than this podcast that's happening under the umbrella of Bust with the Boys,

especially on our YouTube that you guys can go check out. I think you guys will really enjoy it. A little bit behind the scenes of how we work. Spoiler alert, Will and I are the same on the pod as we are off the pod. It's a fun time. Will show me a video before we started this episode of some bullshit that I knew. But I'm glad this video evidence of you waving your little stick, dude. Well, I'm in the middle of a...

Big time put. Yeah. And we were looking at the same team at that point. We were. But we weren't. You obviously were doing some other shit. I had a couple down holes. I'm trying to get back in it.

Yeah, you're trying to get back in it. And it's, I fucking noticed that. I noticed that. You go watch the mini golf. You go watch the mini golf. You're going to see we were with Mrs. Portnoy and Dave. They're a great group of people. Dave's fun to be around.

And I knew Mrs. Portnoy was a wolf and sheep's clothing the entire time. Yeah. She comes off very sweet. hey, good luck, very gentle handshake. Will's being in me. He's intimidating me. Yeah. And you can tell that she was she was acting some type of way. That is fucking bullshit, Will.

And you didn't say nothing, you little bitch. I just said what? Well, I'm out there. In all fairness, like I didn't even remember that I did that until I saw the video. That's not true. I brought up to the minute you did it. Yeah, but you're still in such a competitive nature. You're not seeing straight. You're not thinking clearly. My man's the RIM.

I was in flow state at that point and then the bag nine You know, she finished the same score as you. Yeah. That was, that was fucking tough. Imagine playing the minigolf with the McAfreys, dude. We probably beat their ass. We should play the McCaffrey. I'll say this, too. You know all the dads out there that are super hard on their kids

are going to have this interview in their back pocket. Oh, my God. Yeah, my dad, too. Like, I remember we were traveling to make weight. I was like nine maybe, eight or nine. And I'm traveling to make weight at a wrestling tournament. All we can have for lunch or whatever, or eat is a protein shake that was already pre-packed, like nothing else.

And I remember I'm literally bawling in the backseat being so hungry because I have to make weight. You know, I'm saying for the old man, but like to make weight to wrestling shit. But like, yeah, you know them dads. Brother, I got one too. I got one. Yeah. We're at the YMCA. There was a three-point competition in my basketball league.

Your boy, I was like Steph Curry before Steph Curry. When I was eight years old. I put that shit down. I'm playing wall ball with my buddies before that. Hit it, spray my wrist. end up falling out of the tournament. End up falling out of the tournament, eight years old.

The next day, my dad wasn't in town. My dad gets in town that night. I go to sleep. I wake up the next day. And my dad's like, high-five. And he hives me

with the same hand that I heard. He goes, that's crazy. He keeps walking, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could have shot that damn ball. You could have shot that.

And I know you watch this fucking podcast, Dave. I know you watch this podcast. I thought you were about to say he has you shooting a thousand three-pointers. No. You know what I'm saying? He would always try to get us to gain weight, and there was a jack in the box right by his apartment.

And he would take us and get like a double bacon cheeseburger, and he would like, you think you could eat all that? He'd be like, just to try to get me to gain weight. And he'd be like, eat it, eat it all. And I'd be like... You can't pussy? I'd be like, yeah, I can. I get half a burger.

I'm like, fuck, dude, this is too much. And he'd be like, finish it. I'm not paying that money not for you to finish that. He'd been in this ranch. He's like, low-key crying. Yeah. Like, trying to eat the burger. The old man, he'd be like,

he'd question me because I'd walk too heavy in the house. You back, you need to walk on your toes more. And I'm, you know, I'm just sitting there looking at him like, all right. All right. You're walking too heavy foot around the house. Yeah. Yeah, fuck, man. But yeah, these fathers are going to love this episode.

This is right up their house. He's probably getting a chance to watch TV like 7 p. And he's just going to throw on the bus some of the boys, Chris. You guys want to be great? Notes, kid, right now. You guys want to be great to say to do it. Also, if you guys want to be great, seasons are changing.

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Yeah, 33. Yeah. You're already... We got 51 states, yeah? We have 50 states, my God, Will. 50 stars, 13 bars. These colors don't run.

You should know that. I know, but when... It's not going to go well for you. What are the bars... Hey, what are the bars mean on the flag? The, the representation. Of what? The, you know...

The fucking representation of America. What are the bars? What are the bars on the flag? The United States flag mean? Hold on him. I know. My hands are sweating. What do they mean?

These weak arms. The stars, that's all the number of states. Yes, that's good. What do the bars mean? The initial 13. The initial 13. That's what. 13 what?

Oh. Oh, my. States, colonies? Yeah. Yeah, colonies. I know. It's colonies, correct? Thank God, bro.

I know. It's colonies, correct? But I about it. Okay, because I do want to make that clear. We'll just threw in states colonies. I know we had a little deal right there. Like, What was it, 1776?

What's that? 1774. No, you have. 1776. July 4, 1776. Yeah, brother. Everything else before that doesn't matter. Doesn't fucking matter.

I was actually doing rehab at my new rehab spot because your boys, my code doesn't work at the Titans facility anymore. I went to M-powered. There was a girl there. Her name is Georgia. By the way, this guy named Daniel I worked with today, he knows his shit. My knee, it's feeling, it's getting better. I did one day with that guy, and I was like, holy fuck. Like, this guy knows what he's doing.

Very exciting. I've been going to the wrong spot the whole time. Yeah, I was. But Georgia is from across the pond. She's from London. I go, hey, you guys were really doing well until about 1776. She goes, yeah, and you guys had to dump a bunch of our best liquid. You know what that was from?

You know what liquid she's talking about? The Boston Tea Party? That is correct, friend. Let's go! Look, I had a little dicey situation with 5051. When Pluto got taken out of the Milky Way, it threw me for a little. That's fair. That's fair.

That's fair. That's fair. That's right. Planet is now not nine. There are other parts like Puerto Rico and other things that are technically a part of the United States, but they're not technically states. Do you know what they are?

You're talking about the Puerto Rico, Costa Rica. Yeah. I don't think Costa Rica is a part of the United States. It's not. Oh. You're going to say it. If it was multiple choices... I'm not going to let you bask in it.

Do you guys have multiple choice answers for me? Without saying the right one, because I'll obviously figure that out. My man is trying to work through his shit right now. No, you know. He doesn't understand the United States is a constitutional republic. Yeah, man. Like, social studies and history was not my gig. I was math and science.

I was in English and social studies. I feel like you're either half of those or the other. Yeah. You know what the crazy thing is is if you were trying to, if you were not from the United States and you had to take an immigration test, you'd fail the test. I would not because I'd actually study hard. You're a good studier? can study. Yeah, your boy can study. You seem like a good study guy.

Your boy can study. I mean, you don't get a 29 in the AACT like me, but yeah, you still good. No doubt. I think I got like a 20. I mean, you know, an ACE test and get a 75 in the class after having a 35 like me, bro, but that is deal. Listen, I'm going to hit it one more time, dude. Our whistle pig, bust with the boys whiskey, it's incredible. I'll take some. I'll take some right now. Tell them what they're going to taste. Tell them. I felt a hammock. Yeah. Listen, boys, when you put that up to your lips and you put it in your mouth at first, you're going to feel a little. heat up front. As it goes down here, you're going to get that nice, like, almost like a black pepper, like a crushed black

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So when you go and fill up gas, whether you've left it, let it get to E, whether you just need a little bit more. But that time frame, you know, it could be short, it could be long. But it's that time when your gas tank is filling up and you could either check some emails, you could clean out your car, empty it out. But yeah, my shout-out, no free shout-out goes to that moment in time when you're filling up your car. Get some things done. Being productive.

Being productive. There you go. Being productive in that moment in time. Hell yeah, brother. You were taking that off and I'm thinking, here we go. What moment in time? My shout-up is, would you say that one time?

Bread. It's like a loaf of bread. Yeah. Unslicing. Yeah. It's more of the presentation by Blas. It's always got good one. It's like, where are those words

going to fumble out of his mouth? That's going to be correct at his time or they're going to be. He's like, he's like, So here's my deal. Jack, what do you got, Stud? My shout-d-offrey, Christian's dad is not going to like my shout-out this week.

But it's necessary every once in a while. My shout-out goes to binge-watching TV. And I know that is a big no-no in the McCaffrey house, but in the McPherson household, we thrive on it. So yesterday I was with the roommates. We had a fun Saturday. and nothing really going on on Sunday. And we popped out in like three or four different shows

we've all been collectively watching and we ended up being on like a season finale. And at the end of the day, like when it's all sudden done, I'm walking up to my room and I'm like, damn, that was just a good day with the boys. We didn't do much, but we did everything we wanted to. So shout out, no free shout out, binge watching TV. Colin?

You do it a lot, though. Speaking of TV, Jack, what did you think of episode seven of the last of us? Don't say too much. I'm on episode, too, still. I feel like they were trying to force a narrative that wasn't necessarily there between the two girls. Yeah. 14-year-olds. Yeah.

Like, we could have waited maybe a year or two on that one. It seemed a little predictable, like, what was going to happen at the end. But at the end of it all, I also think it was a setup episode that's going to, it was just some context. My roommate didn't even realize that was an entire flashback, the entire episode. And he was so, he was like, dude, like, I'm just confused. And we're like, oh, dude, you're just stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you're just dumb, brother.

But yeah, I don't know. It wasn't my favorite episode, but I did like the backstory on it. I guess that's as much I can say. But you're one of the, you played the game. Yeah. That was a lot of the reaction when I'm kind of talking shit on the episode was like, oh, you got to play the video game or something. Yeah.

Which I understand. Like, if this has read that redemption, of course, course, I'm enjoying whatever is on the screen in front of me. But as far as, like, good TV, they've done a couple of these filler episodes on, like, flashbacks and setups towards like, hey, it's your first season. You got to get the, you got to keep the audience. Now, listen, I'm here to stay. I'm not going anywhere.

I love the show. But it's like, fuck. The first episode where I was a little like, ah, we, I felt like there could have been a different way to navigate it. You can't leave a cliffhanger on the last one. Now, we see what happened. Again, I'm not going to say a whole lot. Thank you.

They left such a cliffhanger on the last one. episode six at the very end. Remember I texted you very pissed off. Very upset. Now they address in the beginning, but it's like you don't want to spend time on that when you built up so much emotion on it from episode six. Yeah.

It's like I understand the flashback and the context, but let's reel in that fucking 35, 40 minutes of all that context and like maybe 10 or 15 minutes. Yeah, and I feel like it would have been like a beautiful way to show what she's gone through and like what's going on currently. But yeah, it felt like they were kind of like like they could have gotten out of that mall a lot quicker. I'll tell you what, Taylor.

A couple of our shout-out, enough for shout-outs make an appearance on the episode. Escalators being one of them. And they just take so much time on just shit that doesn't need a... We literally watched... We watched the scene where they're playing Mortal Kombat. We're watching them play it. Oh.

That's not big, like on an indicator. That's not like a spoiler alert. Yeah, yeah. Like, fuck. Oh, man, Moral Kombat? I really wanted to see that Mortal Kombat match. And fucking don't act like you don't know. know how to use a joystick just because you've never seen one.

Move that thing around and hit the buttons. And don't say there's too many buttons. There's three. Yeah. Don't piss me off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I get you never seen the... Do you got a PS5, Jack?

Yeah, you even see my Twitter, bro? No, I didn't see it. Yeah, I got one. Oh, but no, I felt like it was necessary to talk about that just a little bit. But, hey, catch up. Catch up. It'd be good to... It sounds like I don't want to catch up.

No, you should. I think so because it'd be good to break down. The show. Yeah, it'd be good to break down the show every week. I feel like I'm always late to shows, dude. Like, I just kind of wait. People are obsessing of it over it, and I just kind of wait, and then a year goes by, I'm like, I'm going to break it out.

I'm going to break it. Which is a smart move, because then you're not like, you don't have to sit and wait. You get to kind of binge it? I do hate waiting. Like, when I binge-watched all four seasons of Yellowstone, I was like, man, no, the four seasons. I haven't watched the fifth season yet.

I remember watching an episode and thinking to myself, people would probably think that episode sucks because they had to wait, but I liked it because I can go on to the next one, and then it would make more sense. Because then there's not so much ebbs and flows of like that episode suck, that episode rock, you're just following a good storyline and you're finding out where you're going. I kind of did that. You hit right away continues in the next episode.

Yeah, like, I watched the first two episodes of Yellowstone, and I'm like, I'm just going for this season to be over. I don't need to be the who's who in the zoo of knowing what's going on right now and time. Yeah, but that is also the fun part of being up to date. From a friendship standpoint, absolutely. You know, the community going on with reacting to it together. By the way, when you guys were talking, I did change my shout-out, no free shout-up. Nice.

When you guys, because there's a couple things you guys talked about. Willie? My shout-on-no-free shout-out goes to me. Over the weekend, we were at the container store, and I'm going to get somewhere with this. Yeah, great place. Dude, the container store is fucking awesome, by the way. It's all about organizing. The reason I'm shouting out myself is because I feel like I did a very boy move.

Oh. Because you know how it is in the Green Hills parking lot with the mall. You can't find parking. In that main area where Kava, Cheesecake Factory, all at the container store, all that stuff is right there. It's a nightmare going around. When I was walking out to get my truck to leave, I made eye contact with somebody that was looking for spots. I literally waved them over here like, hey, I'm about to leave.

You can hold this spot. I waited for them to come around. Then I get in my truck and I back out and I give them the spot. Damn. So that's kind of the, it's more of the moment, but, you know, I enjoyed the shutting on myself too. You got this day, I guarantee you. Yeah, dude. Because, again, you're like, it's like musical chairs in there, bro. And then you just get, you know, you get really quick-tempered about it. You're yelling at some old lady.

but that's my shout-on-no-free shout-out. I would love to hear yours. My shout-on-no-free shout-out, that's a phenomenal, no-frey shout-out, by the way. That was really good. That was really good. My shout-out, no-free shout-out came to me when you guys were speaking about,

talking about The Last of Us. And you brought up something that just made my heart hurt a little bit. And that was Red Hat Red Hat Redemption. So my shout-on-frey shout-out goes to Arthur Morgan. Just the man who's literally, bro, I've cried. after that game, I sob like a little baby.

I've cried multiple times since I've played that game as early as a week and a half ago. Fair to say you're still mourning. I'm still mourning. And it's such a weird thing to mourn, not because it's a video game because I'm still cool with that. It's the fact that I can go back and see them whenever I want, but I'm scared to.

I don't know if I can really go through that emotional turmoil. Again, even playing RD1 right now, I'm not as invested in John Marston, but I do see that like all this, that you're doing right now, John, has to do because Arthur Morgan gave you that opportunity, gave you and your family that opportunity. His legacy is living through John Marston.

Yeah, and I'm just like, I still feel pain. Some nights when I put the kids down and I have a couple hours of myself before I go to sleep, I think maybe I should play, but then my heart hurts too bad, and I just can't. So I pick up the Oculus, I play a little Saints and Centers because I'm not as emotionally attached.

It's a fun little game, but shout to Arthur Morgan, dude. The greatest man I ever knew in my entire life. by far. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. The greatest man you ever known about meeting. Deep dive YouTube's about how Arthur Morgan, when he was a kid, how he met Dutch and stuff like that. Like, they could be making the shit up. And I'm like, I just feel like I've learned more about my best friend.

Yeah. Because it is based on a true story. I think everything is. That's what you were saying before. Yep. You're going with that. I think we've knocked out everything so far. We're about 30 minutes in.

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The Great White Hope has arrived. Welcome. When Christian, we're at the content house in Arizona, Christian walks down the stairs, dude, and the first thing he hears is Bert Kreisher asking who Shane would rather fuck, me or you. And Shane said, you and that hurt. Yeah, I saw it.

I saw it. You saw the hurt on my face. Yeah, yeah. What was your, like, first impression of that? Tramatic entrance to walk into. I was hurt for you. Thank you. But definitely wasn't too shocked.

I'm a fan of both those guys, so I figured something like that would be what happened. Yeah. Normal conversation. Yeah. Normal conversation. And then when we finished, you were all about, what's up? I was going to say it, the book wouldn't say your thing.

Oh, when we, when we finished the episode, like you're a big Shane Gillis fan, huh? Huge. Huge. I've seen the Austin stand up like 15 times. Dude, it is so fucking funny. It gets funnier the more you want. watch it. You keep catching on to something you didn't know.

He is. It's the awkward, it's the awkward, like, shoulder shrug. The best. Some tough, hard nose, run it down your throat, bitches. Three yards in a cloud of dust. Yeah. Dude, he's so funny. You, he played football.

Huh? He played football. Did he really? Yeah, at some, like, Naval Academy, right? West Point. West Point? Quit. He did it.

Yeah, for like three weeks. He's like, fuck this. I can't do this anymore, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, he is, he's fucking awesome.

It's always great having them on, man. But thanks for coming on, though, bro. Like, I feel like we've been connected for a little bit because, like, we've seen you rock the merch. We've started following each other. And I'm just thinking, yo, the fucking, the boy. Yeah, one of the best. That's a great white hope. Yeah, yeah.

The boy he's following. Like, that's fucking sick. Yeah. How'd you get on to the bus? I'm a fan of the pod for a lot of reasons. Some of the guys in the locker room, you guys haven't talked about pod in the locker room. I'm trying to be cool right now. I'm trying to play it cool.

No, but I'm a fan of the pod for a lot of reasons. I think there's not a lot of, you know, when people think of NFL players, it's always, you know, this stardom, individual, you know, it gets a lot of individual attention, not kind of understanding the dynamic of the locker room. And you have two guys who are on different spectrums and different journeys of a football team

who came together in a pot. and a lot of your guys' podcasts are just, it's the locker room. And so for me, it's like, oh, my God, that's like I'm sitting in the car in the offseason throwing on a pod as I'm in the locker room. Lockroom with the boys. And so I feel like a lot of other people, they're, you know, I don't know if they know that, but subconsciously they're like, damn, that's probably what goes on in the locker room. Yeah.

So I'm a fan. I really am a fan. I like the pod a lot. Dude, I'm so happy you said that because that's literally like our whole goal is like everyone who you, when you're playing in the league, like when you first get in the league, there's those year 10 guys and they like leave and they come back and you always ask them like hey what do you miss and everybody says there's a couple of answers but everyone always says they miss the boys they miss the locker room and like as you get older you kind of fear that so when will

and i started this like that we wanted that to be the vibe we wanted to be the vibe where people were sitting down we're asking the same dumb questions Kobe or lebron or michael we're asking first time you jerked off like just crazy like conversations about the lebron question yeah but you know that's always a question there's always a question to lock it was a first thing they came to my have. It's a popular question. I don't think we have talked about that. But it is like, it's fucking awesome, dude.

And that's great to know that, like, the 49ers seem like they roll with the boys. Oh, it's the best. It's such a good locker room. Was Kittle, did Kittle kind of steamhead that? Yeah, I would say. So, you know, for me personally, I came in in the middle of the year not knowing what was going on. You know, I didn't know. I knew people, but didn't know people, which was a weird experience.

But you can just tell. I think there was 22 guys from the Super Bowl team a few years ago who are still on the team. So they'd set a culture and a standard that had been there for a while. And, you know, I was just pumped out to join them. What was it like getting traded? It was wild, man. You're the friend. You're like the face of the Panthers, like the fucking guy.

When we would play you guys, they'd be like, if you stop this guy, we have a chance to win. Well, he's going to touch the ball like third times a game. First overall draft pick from me, fantasy football. Thank you for holding true. I was like, okay, he's had a couple of injury bugs last couple years. He's going to get it right this year. Appreciate it. Take us to that trade, bro, because that's,

I mean, that was a massive headline. It was, it was an, you know, you hear about it, but you never, I don't know, for me, I never thought I'd get trade. I thought I was a Panther forever. I'm like, I bought a house there. This is home. And I'd heard the rumors in the off season. So I, you know, obviously I called the GM.

I'm like, hey, man, just, you know, I just need to hear it from you. Any truth? And he was super honest. He's like, look, absolutely not. We don't want to do this, you know, but we'll listen to everything. And that's fair. I'm like, sounds good. Just let me know.

But I went into the season, man. I'm like, look, I'm all in. It is what it is. I legitimately forgot about that, thinking I'm on the team. I play in, I think it was four or five games, and the rumors had continued to gone, and Coach Ruhl got fired. We had lost a few games in a row,

and I figured, like, if this was going to happen, this is how it happens. So you were anticipating it a little bit? I didn't, maybe subconsciously, but I never addressed it, you know, openly. And so we played L.A., we played the Rams. It was the first game with Coach Wilkes. And we lost.

I had a pretty good game, though. And I just remember my agent saying it could happen this week, but I don't think so. And so early in the week, it was, you know, I don't think this is happening. And then the week kept going and going, and there was more of a chance. And I was just like, look, if it's going to happen, make it happen. I was preparing for Tampa. So for, you know, anyone who doesn't know what it's like to get traded in the middle of a week, you know, I'm in practice and meetings Wednesday, treatment, practice and meetings, Thursday,

treatment, 11.30 p.m. I get a call trading you to the Niners, yada yada. 7 a.m. flight didn't say by to one person. Practice with the Niners Friday. Try to scramble together, you know, a few plays in a little package. You go play the Chiefs on Sunday for the Niners. And then from there, you just roll. So when you call the GM, there's a bit of anxiety.

And then when you after you play the Rams, your agents like, hey, probably won't happen, but it could happen this week. How does that, like, affect you during the season leading up to that point? because obviously everyone's always all in. Like the guys who really care about football, they're going to be all in for their team. But there's going to be some sort of level of, you've got to feel some sort of way,

knowing there's a possibility that this team, whether you feel like they're giving up on you or they want to move on for whatever reason. Like, what was your thought process like up until getting traded? Yeah, I mean, it's, I think I legitimately blocked it out for the first four weeks. And then like, like you said, like that week where it was like, hey, this could happen.

I mean, it's all I thought about. You know, it's like it was completely in the back of my head. Like consuming. The unknown, yeah, it consumes you. But you have to do your best. I was, you know, prepping for Tampa. So I just started, you know, doing all that and just getting ready to go. And I figured, hey, don't change a thing.

Because regardless, you're going to be on a team, whether it's, you know, you get traded Tuesday or whether you get traded Thursday, whatever it is. I just didn't want to prolong it. I wanted to play in every game this year. That was a, you know, big deal to me to be able to suit up and play in every game. And so I just wanted it to happen sooner than later. No, it definitely consumes you. I mean, it's in the back of your head. Even in practice, I'm like, dude, just don't do anything stupid.

Like, who knows what's going to happen? Like, I was warming up for like an hour just to make sure I'm, you know, checking the box. So, yeah, it definitely consumes you a little. And you, go ahead. I was going to say, is your initial reaction when you got traded? Is it pissed off? It's so weird. It's a weird deal because there's so many emotions and the first emotions probably anger.

Like, man, you guys don't want me anymore. Like, that's really what it is. you know, you can call it what it is. Well, they got a lot for you. It's like, no, like you're, you think you're better off without me. That's what it is. Damn. And so you get that.

So it's, you know, you're pissed off. But then you're excited, but then you're, you know, you got two days. So I just think there's so many emotions that get flooded at you at once that you're not really able to address. Because they give you the playbook as soon as you get there. And you're like, shit, man, that's a lot. You know, I got to get going. So you can't even address it. And I don't even know if I've completely decompressed yet with the whole thing.

but uh it's like a big breakup and you don't get any chance after yeah yeah break up into a next relationship yeah yeah immediately don't immediately not even like the courting process of the other relationship right i'm healthy to leave this one i go this one your ex picks your next chick yeah what the hell is hey we're done but she's gonna be great to you yeah he's gonna be fantastic i hope she's good and she was yeah she was it had to be a little bit of like Carolina was going down the dumps pretty fast and then you get traded to the 49ers and like hey you're pissed at first and you're like i'm going to a good ball club here And a family that obviously is documented.

You know what, though, and I've, this is dead honest truth, I legitimately thought we could still win because we had a really hard first part of the schedule. And so there was a few games in there where we're like, oh, God, like, you hope you win these games and you want to win these games, but you got a new quarterback, you got a new offense. There's going to, it's going to come with some growing pains. Our coordinator just got there. Our quarterback got there in training camp. Like, I really believe we could still win. So in the back of my head, I'm like,

you know, we could be one of those Miami teams who wins nine straight later in the year a couple years ago. I, in my head, believed that. And they ended up doing, you know, kind of making a little you know, they got the mix for sure. And so I, you know, any way you could get into the playoffs, it doesn't really matter as long as you get in. And so I thought we could. And so that, that didn't help. I wasn't like, oh, hell yeah, I'm out. Like that, that wasn't my mentality after got traded. I love Charlotte, man. And I was a captain on that team. I love those guys. And so, You know, it came with a lot of mixed emotions. So Thursday night, 11.30 at night, you get traded.

7 a.m. you're on a flight. And then you have to play a game in 48 hours, essentially. Like, what was when you talked to Shannonhan and the boys, like, hey, we need these 10 plays out of you during the game? Because it was a big surprise to everybody when you stepped on the field that Sunday. Yeah, at first, I didn't know if I was going to play. I don't think they knew if I was going to play. And then I think I got there.

And if you know how Chanahan's a wizard, man. he, I think he started to put together a little bit of a red zone package and maybe something like 10 plays here, where he's like, you know, maybe we can use him in a couple different ways and teach him some base runs, get him some touches. And so I had, I was ready for 10 to 12 plays. I ended up playing in like 20. And poor Jimmy, like, he called like eight plays. I've never heard. I know, I couldn't tell you what one thing meant in the play. Like, Jimmy, you, I'm sorry, but you got to tell me what to do. Jimmy, you know, obviously told me what to do. But yeah. It was a different game week experience, I could say that. How was your transition going to San Fran? It was great, man. It was great. I mean, that's as seamless of a transition as I could have imagined. From the coaches helping me out, learning the plays quick to shit.

Brock Purdy was walking through with me on the turf field, you know, after hours just to try to, you know, get some reps in so I could hear the plays. kiddle and all the leaders on the team. I mean, you're playing with guys that are elite at what they do. It's an elite bunch. All over the locker room. So from them welcome me in, man, they felt like family right away. I was so thankful, you know, because you never know how that's going to go.

It could be some resentment or something like, how the hell's a new guy. Right. No, they welcome me in with open arms. Everyone is so great and clicked those boys right away. Yeah. When you first got to San Fran, like, who did you gravitate? towards early. Or who, I guess who opened the doors to

like a little bit of a friendship early? Like, boys? Kiddle was amazing, man. He called me. When I got traded, the GM of the Panthers call me, told me getting traded. John Lynch called me. And then Kiddle called me.

Did you know Kiddle before? I'd known Kiddle. I've, you know, hung out of them for a while, you know, seeing him at different events here and there. So he was like the third call. And man, that meant a lot to me. Obviously, he's a leader on that team. And then sharing the running back.

room with Kyle Juice Check was great. Doug. And that whole running back room was awesome, man. It's a good room. And Elijah Mitchell and just being able to learn from him and just no egos, no, you know, it was a, it was a seamless transition. But, you know, saw like Trent Williams in the locker room. Monster.

I saw, man. And Fred Warner's a beast, you know, Debo, I, you, all those guys. Oh, they're sad. They're so close, man. Like, you can tell they've been through some shit together. Yeah. You know what I mean? So when I stepped in there, I'm like, look, I just do your job.

You don't got to do anything else, but just do your job. Knowing that the Panthers were your first organization going to San Francisco and seeing how that organization was ran, was it eye-opening between the two different organizations? Like I know for me, when I went from Washington to Tennessee, you saw right away, like, how differently the Titans would run stuff compared to Washington. And then same when I went to the Raiders and everything else. Was it similar at all going from Carolina to San Francisco? No, it was pretty different in a lot of ways.

Not even good or bad, but you get in a routine in one team with your practice schedule with when you get treatment with when they practice, when they lift, et cetera. So all that was different. So I had to kind of adjust mid-season, all of that stuff. So as far as the scheduling went, it was much different. The playbook obviously was much different, completely new terminology. But I think, you know, for me, I adapted pretty quick. And the other good thing was we played Kansas City where I,

chalk it up to, you know, scratch. Like you played, but just now you can get your bearings for a week. And then we played L.A. the next week. And then we had a buy. So I played in really one and a half games. And then we had a buy where I could really get used to everything and how things were ran. But even like your treatment people, you know what I mean? Like the guys that you see, that change. Yeah, because you got your die. Like there's that one guy in the building. It's like, this is my dude I'm working with. So I'm like, you know, all that, you're scrambling to figure that stuff out. And yeah, there's a lot of differences here and there. But I'd say that was probably the biggest effect. It's just trying to figure out the logistics of your schedule throughout the week.

Yeah. How close are you with the like getting, because your family's with the, the Shanahan family and your family, you guys are like tight, right? Yes. Is that your, are you going there feeling kind of like that interpersonal relationship with Coach Shanahan? Or is it kind of like our families are tight, but, you know, it's. It's still different for us. I think when you get traded, it's like you really understand family, friend, or whatever, how much of a business it is. And you also understand that these guys just traded a lot for you.

So, you know, there's no like, hey, what's up, man? It's like, all right, dude. Like, it's time. Like, I got to prove you right. And we got to roll because, you know, I mean, my dad played for Mike Shanahan for a long time. And they're really close, you know, really close. and Kyle grew up in that locker room. Kyle grew up going to those games and the Niners games when Mike was there in the Broncos games.

I'd only met Kyle after a game when we played them, though. I didn't, I wasn't like, you know, I talked to Kyle all the time. That wasn't the case at all. And I think, you know, we have a lot of similarities in a lot of ways in the sense that, you know, your dad's kind of grew up. You know, my dad had three Super Bowl rings. And growing up in Denver, you know, he was a big deal. And, you know, I kind of always, you know, I ended up making a name for myself, but just growing up, you're in his shadow.

And I thought it was the best thing ever. I mean, me and my pops were like that, and it was amazing. But, you know, I think Kyle probably feels that a little bit too. And so it's all business, though. I mean, I love Kyle and I, and we, you know, we got a good relationship. But I want to win so bad, man. And I know he does too. So it's definitely to the script and business.

You guys are so close to here, dude. When you got Jimmy G. telling you what to do on the field and then a few weeks later, he's out. Like, what was the vibe in the locker room? Because it seems like it was truly a next man up mentality. That's what it seemed like from the outside looking in. But you have a guy who's Mr. Irrelevant. Like, you really have no idea what he's going to put on the field.

You had no chance to see him in camp or really in preseason games or anything. So, like, what was your thought process? And, like, what was the vibe of the boys, like, the next day? And there was a lot of mixed emotions and a lot of unknowns. But like I said, I mean, you got the number one defense and you have a lot of weapons. So I don't, I really don't believe anyone ever blinked. I think it was, hey, we're going to have to step up. Like there's, you know, and I don't know what that means because I never understood that

because it's like, well, what were you doing before? Like, you know, but like, you know what I mean? Just kind of, you know, lock in, no bullshit, nothing. And, but I didn't feel like anybody blinked. And I, and to hear the defense talk about Brock, because those were the guys going against them and scout team and during training camp, they were huge fans. They're like, oh, no, he can ball. And so we're like, all right, let's see what happens.

And he went in the middle of Miami game. He won and then, you know, it was kind of history from there. But, no, it was impressive what he did. I'll be honest with you. How do you really impressive to watch from a close spectrum? How do you feel sitting in this room right now and not getting ready for the Super Bowl? No, you were so close. It hurts, man.

It hurts. It hurts. It's, uh, yeah, it hurts. Yeah. It hurts, man. Is your dad like the guy from, what was the movie with Boobie Miles? Right in that. Night lights.

He's like, you see that? You got one of those? Get you one of those. Get you one of those. Do you dad like that? Is your dad kind of put in your face a little bit or he's letting it ride? I've never seen my dad's rings. He couldn't be...

You got to drive him home drunk after a game? Yeah. He tosses it out the window. You're shuffling through the grass. Dad. No. God damn it, dad. Fucking kicks out the window.

Christian's all sat on the field. His dad walks up, puts it on his finger. By the way, they asked me the other day, like, what's one of the best movie scenes of all time? That was, like, in my... like in my top three. When he's on his knees. When he hugs his dad at the end there,

when they lost, I mean. Emotional right now. That is tough. One of mine was the lamp scene. When he throws the lamp on the ground? He's, I dropped it. He's like,

can't hold on the lamp, can hold on the football. I can hold on the football. Get the hell out of here. I got a funny story about that, actually. Doug Tate's, like,

can you hold on to do it now? That poor girl just sitting there watching that all go down too. Like, damn. The girl's like half naked. Like, what's cool? Yeah, yeah. Well, I think her name's like, Marie said, oh, Marie, you've grown up.

Hey, Tim. Relax. Take it easy, brother. Yeah. So Tim McGrath's daughter went to Stanford. So we got to know the McGraths a little bit. Me and my friend group. She's an awesome girl.

And we had dinner. A family friend of ours know them pretty well. So he invited us over for dinner when we were at Stanford. Not Tim, our family friend, but the McGraths, him and Faith Hill were going. And so we're like, all right, cool. We'll head over. And the whole way on. on the car ride. They're like, dude, just don't fucking say any Friday night lights lines.

Like, don't say, like, be professional, whatever. Within five minutes, someone drops a fork and my idiot buddy, like, it's like, don't punch the president and goes, can't hold on on on the fork? Can't hold on the fork? I don't know. I was like, no, no. And we all just started, and he started laughing too, which was good, but oh my God, it was so funny. He laughed. He just laughed. He didn't say anything. And Tim McGraw is one of those dudes you've seen. You're like, fuck, that's really Tim McGraw. Jacked. Is he ripped up? Dude, I saw him at, uh, when, I tore my ACL in 2020,

and they were playing the Ravens. And the suite next to me, he was there. And someone, like, kind of tapped him on the last night. I kind of gave him, like, one of those. And he, like, gave me the head. And I was like, we're fucking tight, dude. We're boys, brother. Yeah.

But, dude, we were at, uh, losers in Nashville one time. And the owner of losers, his name is Steve Ford. He comes up. He goes, hey, y'all want the back. That's fine. But, uh, Bob's coming. I'm like, who's Bob? He's like, kid rock.

Kid Rock's on his way. So my first thing is, where's Will? I go, Will? Kid Rock's coming. Don't say any Joe Dirt. That summer, too, it was a massive Kid Rock. Yeah, I'm like, don't say any Joe Dirt shit. Don't start saying Bob with the Bar, any of this stuff.

Kid Rock comes in. We're hanging out. We're literally playing Beer Pong. And we're, like, talking for a little bit. It's me, Will, and Kid Rock. And we're talking. And there's like a bit of an awkward silence. And we'll just go, can't stop thinking about Joe Dirt lines right now.

Oh, my God, brother. Oh, it's tough when you're around those types of cats, dude. It's tough. Because you kind of want to be like, I know you. Yeah, exactly. You just got the favorite scenes, bro. Yeah, it's exactly. It's like not the girl's a dick, man.

No, no. You're just, you're thinking of this character, man,'s acting. It's a goal. Yeah. I would actually think is like an asshole who I wouldn't like before meeting him is Joffrey from Game of Thrones. Yeah. I think I'd really have an issue with him a person.

I got to watch that fucking show. Yeah, yeah. The worst person of all time. Didn't he step away from acting? That's what I heard. He quit acting. He quit acting. What a great actor for that.

That's got to be tough, dude. That has got to be a tough thing. Shall we talk about the NFC championship? We don't have to. I think we got to. Don't worry about it, dude. I think we got to touch on it. Don't worry about it, dude.

We got to touch. We got to touch on it. Take it. Did Brock Purdy fake that injury? No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, it was pretty tough. He tore his UCL.

I mean, he legitimately couldn't throw. And our only hope for, you know, we still had hope. Josh came in and we tie it up. We're ready to roll. And then when Josh went down, it's like, you know, it's panic mode. But you never know. Defense pick six, special teams touchdown. You don't know what's going to happen.

But I don't know if they knew how hurt Brock was. So just having Brock out there, there was still the threat of like, oh, maybe they shot him up and he's good to go. Like, who knows, right? And he threw a couple screen passes, but I mean, that's a serious injury. Yeah. Serious injury for him to come back in the game and, you know, try to at least throw dog. Yeah.

Yeah. No, he didn't fake it. I didn't get to see the game, but you were saying they were just like, y'all were just running the ball. Yeah, after, it's like, yeah, they might not know what's going on, but after a few plays, you're going to realize, like, let's just stack the box until they do throw and show that they can try and go up top. So after that, like, as you guys are doing running play after running play after running play after fucking running play, going into the fourth quarter.

And then it's not like nobody's like, there's, clock's not stopping. You guys are just running the football. I'm sitting there like, well, at least try to fucking, at least try to throw the football. You're like, you throw it into the fucking stands. I'm like, hell yeah, let it fucking rip, bro. It's one of the worst pass attempts. I wish I thought. But it's like why continue to just run the ball?

Is there a sense of frustration? Like you got dudes like him and Debo and trot up in the middle. Like, hey, George, I'm about to just, hey, look at me. I'm going to throw this ball to you. Yeah. Yeah, in theory, like, that sounds really good. I just feel like I couldn't call a play. Like, I know the running back position and then some Z plays,

but, like, calling a play and knowing what people are doing. You could draw it up all you want. We drew up that double reverse, and, you know, it was the one time. I think they go two-shell now. And then, you know, Kittles double-covered, and he's our only guy. And so I just threw it to absolutely nobody. But I love that you just let it rip. You rip it.

At least they try it throwing the football. Yeah. almost got grounding, which would have been like, oh, yeah, never mind. We're not throwing the football. But, no, it's, I think at that point, man, you're, you're hoping for, you know, we did a couple double reverses. And we were still running the ball efficiently. It's not like we were zero yards.

And I don't know. I wish I, I'm not a coach. I don't know what I would have done. I don't think I've ever seen that. The only time I've ever seen no quarterbacks to be able to play was the Broncos' COVID deal. Oh, and the P squad receiver. Yeah. And the P-Squod receiver, they got beat by like 45.

Yeah, that was a tough. That was a tough. So, let alone, you know, not having a quarterback for two and a half in the NFC championship. But I'm, you know, they're the ones that hurt them. So it's not like, you know, you can't say it's not fair. You know, they play a good ball. It's a good team. Yeah, what a tough fucking spot to be in.

And I get it. It's like, in theory, that sounds nice. And it's like, I know, like I'm saying that and kind of you're trying to get you to speak on something where it's like, I mean, I'm not. Yeah. You're not a coach. You're not doing all. all that stuff. You're not trying to draw it up.

But I'm just thinking, NSC championship, there's truly nothing to fucking lose at all whatsoever. So it's like, you're just out there, hey, I'm going to fucking go five yards and go out just to simplify for somebody trying to throw the rock.

Like Kyle, be a quarterback so Christian could maybe still run the football. But that's what I'm sitting there thinking. I'm like, man, at least show that you might just throw the ball at some point. Yeah.

That's what I was saying. You know, I'm pissed off. I bet on you guys. I'm fucking pissed off. I'm fucking pissed off. If there was going to be a quarterback, who do you think it would be?

step in. Was it? Really? It would be me or Kyle. Really? Yeah. Man. And taking away the fact that it's the NFC championship, that'd be cool.

Like, if you're in the middle of season, it's week six. In the back of my mind, I won't lie. I'm like, look, dude, if I get the ball, I'm ripping it. Yeah. Hell yeah, brother. Call, like, some, you know, whatever. Call some shit. Throw a piece.

Take the top off. We shouldn't have done. Yeah, yeah. But if it's in the middle of the season, you do, like, you run the ball, you get out of the game, it's like, well, we didn't have a quarterback. but it's like the game before the Super Bowl. Yeah. But you guys are thinking about the negative.

Like imagine if you were able to play quarterback and was throwing dimes all of a sudden. Yeah, or, yeah, I don't know. All that quarterback stuff's tough. Like, forget throwing the ball. Like, calling the play in the huddle. Like, they're still giving me shit because I called one play on the wristband.

It was a double reverse pass. And, like, the whole game, it was so loud. And so the quarterback's in there just screaming. Like, we had to have a guy take a knee in the middle so we could. shorten up the circle just so we can hear. And so I'm like, damn, I got to yell this play call. Meanwhile, the play call is, it's that long.

And I'm screaming the play. And George's like, dude, shh. Like, it was the one time it was quiet. So, like, the whole defense is like that we can hear you. Like, I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quiet my voice down for a little bit. But now, calling the play in the huddle is more difficult than people think.

What about a turbo package? Why not go into you just have like some on the ball stuff where you have like one one word And that's what you're gonna call and that's it Yeah we yeah we have that we but I don't know it I don't know the quarterback turbo package Juice might but There you go put juice in there's so many

There's so many what ifs man and like you should have done it's like But I don't know it It just sucked Absolutely I mean this is from the perspective of We're opening wounds in a joking way And it's got to be tough And I know you're allowed to carry three quarterbacks. Like I had a comment earlier this week in the media where I was like, I wish they changed that rule.

And people are like, well, you can change. You can carry three quarterbacks. I'm like, I know that. I just mean you have 53 guys active, but only how many suit up? 46 shoot up. 48 can suit up now. But you have to suit up an extra offensive lineman. Or maybe 47.

My whole point, I was like, I know that. I just wish one of those extra active players could be a third quarterback. Because nobody wants to watch that. That's not, No. Like, it sucks for us. It sucks for fans. It sucks for everything.

You're like, dude, this is, there's so, you know, people's lives. It's, and look,

I'm bitter and then the wounds are still fresh, and I'm pissed off and I get it. I'll get over it. But that was just my initial, angry thoughts post game. Dude, hockey's got a rule, not necessarily a rule,

but there are literally guys in the stands that are goalies. And they're like, like, there's two goalies that suit up. If both those goys get hurt, that guy will literally go down the locker room, suit up and go play goalie.

Isn't that wild? Yeah, that would be nice if you were able to do that because it does. And I know we're sitting here talking like, oh, we should have could. It's like the chances are 99% chance you're still going to like lose the game. Whoa. Well, I mean, the way it was getting out of hand, it's just like they had a quarter left to make something happen. Yeah. You're saying, you're not saying even with Brock.

I'm not saying like, oh, if he would have acted as the quarterback and threw the ball around, that means they would have won the game. It's like, you know, you're kind of just like, well, everyone knows it's pretty much going to be over with. Yeah, but I thought you were saying, if Brock play the entire game. Oh, no, no, no, no. You guys win that game. You really think so?

10 times out of 10. You really think so. Yeah. No, the Niners and the Eagles. They're a tough football team. Those are both the two best put-together teams in the NFL. They were good, man. I thought they're a good team.

You know, you go in every game confident. And it's one thing about Kyle. Like, he gets you to get, you know, with his game plans and stuff. You're like, oh, damn, I'm excited for this game. You know, and who knows what would have happened. I just think, man, like, I just wish it didn't go that way. Yeah. That is.

Especially when that first drive, too, like, they got that fourth down play. And obviously, you guys are still in it. It's just like nobody's blinking. Yeah, that catch. A different game. It's a different game. How about the punt, the punt, too. They're rough in the punter.

Different game. Who knows? Game. I'm talking on the couch. I know. I'm talking on a couch. You're wearing that heart on that sleeve right now, which is awesome. 49ers are going to absolutely love it.

You had a comment, I think you're on NFL Network Media Row. It might have been yesterday saying you wish, you hope both teams lose. Obviously, that's not going to happen. Who do you, not hope, but who do you think to actually, yeah. Imagine there's a tie for the Super Bowl. That can't happen, right? No, it can't happen. Yeah.

No, no, there's no way. There's no ties. There's no ties. Who do you think is going to win this game? This has been like obviously the conversation for everybody, especially here in this house. Everyone's talking over and over about how. By the time this comes out, it's like it'll be done.

It'll be done. Who you're thinking? We'll clip it real quick and send it out today. Yeah. I don't know, man. Honestly, I don't know. I think it's so hard for me to like say one or the other, you know, because I'm so pissed off, you know.

So you think the Eagles? No, not necessarily. You just don't want to give it to it. Not necessarily. I mean, you. They're a stack team. They got so many weapons on offense and that pass rush is serious. It's tough to bet against Pat Mahomes ever in a game.

So I don't know. I hope it's a good game though. I don't know if I watch, but I hope it's a good game. You think you're going to watch the Super Bowl. I don't know if I'm going to watch, man. It hurts that bad. It hurts. It hurts.

Brother, I can't. I can't imagine. I mean, I can't. I was in the championship once, but that's got to be fucking tough. You know exactly how he's feeling. Yeah, but like... I mean, not in the way we lost made it even tougher. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say,

there is truly a, like, an argument for what if. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If we got beat, I'd be like, you know what, man? Prop. And look, you can clip that. By the way, Philly fans hate me right now for the whole, I hope both teams.

Anyway. Dude, it's Philly. They are literally, that's what they do. Lean into it. But, but, like, I, you know, I'm not saying we would have won. I am saying, you know, we'd have had a chance, and that would have been a, you know, that's not nothing.

Say you would have won. But no, like that, we would have. That's how we need it. Got it. It's actually out on Twitter right now. Go ahead. Say it. No, but I just think having a chance is important in the NFL football.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I did. I think Philly's going to win. I do. I think. That's what I think. I think. I think Philly's going to win.

And then you had a, fantastic point earlier this week, Will, that the way the chief's win is off-scripted plays. Yeah, yeah, that's I feel. Because I just feel like Philly can line up and beat you both ways on the ground through the air. Which was tough, which was what was shitty to watch with you guys, you guys have such a tough defense. Like,

seeing them march down and, like, run the balls, like, fuck, man. Yeah, but I, this is the other thing about our team. Like, I just feel like we've been down in the first half in multiple games this year where it was looking like that. But our second half adjustments on defense, like, D'emico Rines had them dialed in the second half. And I just feel like that was where we thrived,

was that second half, that third and fourth quarter, where we made a lot of way in that second half. So who knows, but. Do you guys have a lot of guys in free agency this year? We have some really important guys in free agency, but no, we get a lot of guys back. Yeah, who are the guys that are in free agency? I'm going to miss some of them.

I know, like, off the top of my head, McGlenshy, I right tackle Jimmy Ward, who I'm a big fan of. Yeah, he's a stud. Jimmy Ward's a stud. I'm not sure at receiver who's up and who's not. I'm still not familiar with how old everyone is. So I don't know who's on the free agent market. Those are the ones that jumped off though right away.

I think D-line, Charles is up, center maybe. He has a stacked D-line, dude. So. McClinty is one of those dudes on the office line that I feel like gets way more hate than he deserves. I feel like everyone's always, like, trash in him. But I feel like he's a pretty solid tackle. Yeah.

He's really good. Very solid. Yeah. 30 plays well. Tough is you play on the opposite side of Trent Williams your whole career. It's like, or not your whole career, but like. Anytime you play the opposite side of him. Yeah.

Like, that's tough. Yeah. Tough to like, you're not, you know what I mean? Yeah. No, Mike's been nothing, but he's been great. Can you imagine being a part of a franchise that had Joe Staley for 11 years and then he leaves? and then you actually have an upgrade at tackle. That's like the most wild shit.

Because tackle's like one of those positions. Like, there's so much demand. And there's hardly any supply. Yeah, 100%. It's just crazy. I just think O-line in general now. You can get a solid alignment at any of the five positions, but especially left tackle.

That's so hard to find. Brother. And he has, Trent has no sign of slowing down at all. He looks, he got better. I don't have to lift the Redskins. Yeah. Or the commanders now. Taking a year off.

Taking a year off, which I feel like never happens, dude. Yeah. Never happens. He's the freakyest player I've ever seen in my life in person. I don't know if it's close. Like, just practicing and, like, it's stupid. Does he practice hard? He doesn't practice Wednesdays.

He does what he has to do. Yeah, you get a test to that. Yeah, he does what he has to do. But he'll be warming up. He'll be on the side. But he's one of those guys. He can do that. Yeah, he's, he's one of those guys that can.

Yeah, I was going to say that conversation at the lunch table, genuine as hell, innocent as hell. Like, I really am waiting on the day where I walk in these doors and someone challenges me at practice. Like, he had that comment when I was like a rookie. And he said that, he said that to Brian Arakpo. Yeah. Who's like four-time pro-board. I remember I knew it was for real too. Like Bosa, you know, everyone knows Bosa in the year that he's had.

We were on the bus one time and he's like, I got the hardest job in America. Like what? He's like, I got to go against Trent every day. God, that's got to be so full. saying like I got the hardest job in America going to get to train every like that's yeah it's it's stupid man it's stupid yeah I think uh he almost beat the shit out of somebody on the eagle sue at the end of that game oh he got a little d long buddy and dres had a little bit of a history of just going off he didn't that to richard sherman back in the day he went after the he went after the db

ain't nothing wrong with that you know it wasn't nothing wrong with that you know what's up yeah box safety box safety yeah what i wanted to see because sue ended up trying to get in there I'm like That would have been a nice little fight. And Domben Sue versus Trent Williams right up. I think Trent takes that now, though. What's up? I think Trent takes that. I'm not commenting on that.

I don't know, man. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Like, there's nobody I'm actually picking. Kill me. Do what? You say what? If I comment on that, Sue's going to kill me.

Next year we play them. Just kill me. If he can catch you, bro. Yeah. You got to get his hands on you. You got to believe yourself. Speaking of catching you, dude, when you were training for the combine, there was a video that came out about you.

If you doing like, you were like doing your high knees over some sort of like little little thing. You know the video we're talking about. I think, oh yeah. How much is you?

Dude, you're in a room, there's a TV going and you're stepping over this little like fucking step thing. It's like this high and you're like going super fast. It looks like it's fake.

Do you remember that video? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Is that video real? That's real. What a fucking question. Oh, fuck.

Dude. Is that real? Yeah. How sick was it being an absolute beast at Stanford? Such a bad podcast. Like, you were a fucking man, dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Stanford was fun, man. And I think the football team was fun. All right. For sure. We had a good team, man. Like, I feel like people counted us out a lot. And we didn't even know how good we were. But there's like, I want to say like 20 to 25 dudes.

who I played with in the three years I was there, who were in the league or just got out, like, you know, who were jumping around for a while. I didn't know if we knew how good we were. But it was fun, man. I had a lot of good times. That Rose Bowl game was a blast. My second year was, you know, that whole year was fun.

So I enjoyed it. Are you, like, going to that season, just when you're shredding records, you're like, yo, it's just fucking easy out here. I didn't know if I was going to start before the season started. So my freshman year, it was, It's the whole same running back room as my next year. And I didn't start my freshman year.

I was kind of a third down utility guy, part return, kick return, stuff like that. My second year, I got the nod. And our first game, we lose to Northwestern, and I had a fumble in the game. And I just remember, like, this is going to be an uphill battle for me. That was our first game. So we're 0-1, lost to unranked Northwestern,

at Northwestern. and you just don't know what's going to happen. So it was, yeah, and then it just started going and going and going. I don't think it hit me until the end of the year, but it was fun. It was a fun team to play on. If you take Stanford out of it, what college would you want to go to? Like the number one college? I want to or what I would have.

Let's do both. Where would you have gone if it wasn't Stanford? And then if you had a choice of any school besides Stanford, where would you have gone? I probably would have gone to Oregon. Fire. That was like in the LaMichael James. the Anthony Thomas kind of era and that kind of fit my style just in high school I same offense the whole nine track all that stuff but then uh I remember my dad sat me down and he he went over all

the academic stuff and I understood that but he was like if you want to play in the NFL and like play big dog football you got to run in a pro style offense it is what it is because no one's going to think that you can run in a pro style offense and I was like dang you're right And he was right. So like I needed to run power. I needed to run inside zone. So you were going to go to Oregon. I wasn't going to go to Oregon, but I was debating between like Stanford, Oregon, Washington.

And then my older brother played at Duke. So I was highly considering going to play with, you know, play a Duke with him too. So those were like the four where I was pretty close to going to. Yeah. How pivotal was it for you to have your old man is like a mentor for you growing up? Yeah, the best. Like legit. Like is it growing up?

Was it one or out the other? And then it got a little bit more, you took more of his advice, like when you got closer to college, or how was that relationship with him growing up? We, uh, so I have three brothers and I'm number two. And we all,

we all play football and all, you know, played a bunch of different sports. But, um, it was such an advantage, man. Like, we could go to him with anything.

And he was never like, hey, you got to, he was tough, man. We had a tough. It was, it was,

we grew up great. We, you know, by any means were the farthest things from spoiled. And it was hard at times, but we had so much fun, man. Like, I did everything with my brothers. And my older brother kicked my ass every single day and everything we did. And it was so good for me.

And having my dad, you know, obviously as an outlet at any time we wanted was great. I think not just for like, hey, man, you know, if you're running a route and under 15 yards, you should never take more than three steps when you break. and like different things like that and how to cut and how to plan and how to do this and that. It was more like the emotional side of it and how to handle your emotions when things happen because we were always really competitive. We never needed like a, hey man, you got to try harder. It was always really important to us.

So that was never like he didn't, you know, he was big on effort and grades and all these things. But I think like how to handle your business and how to, you know, deal with emotions when you're on the field was important. for me to learn at a young age. Because if I didn't have him, I don't know, you know, I don't know what would have happened. I got to follow up. You mentioned it being, like, it was hard at times. Like, what were the hard times? And when I say hard.

How the old man was tough on you? It's like hard as, you know, when you're a kid. Like, it was, now it's not hard. Caping balls to you. Hard as you should hold on to it. Maybe I appreciate it looking back now. We would get grounded for real. If you got jersey tackle, like, like, seven, eight years old.

If you got, you know, you wear the big jerseys? Yeah. get grounded if you get jersey. Oh, really? Tackled at 7, 8 years old. You're grounded. The Home Depot tape, that double-sided tape, I'm 8, and double-side tape my pads. You know, they didn't have the Velcrobe.

And double-side tape my pads, I never got. I was running through everybody. No jersey tackles ever. You know, he would cut like certain slits in the pant to give you, like, more knee flexion like back in the day. At eight years old. He got his doing like dynamic warm-ups, dude. No sodas. Bedtime,

730. Oh, yeah. He would take, They would take our phone until I left for high school at like a time. He's going to hate me for saying all this, but it works. I mean, I don't know if he's going to listen to it. But yeah, like that's what it was. Like, you know, when diet was always important, sleep was always, now we were kids, man. Like we could go over to the friend's house.

It wasn't like a, you know, like anything like that. But when it came to sports and to school, it was, hey, if you want to be here, here are the things that you need to do. Like Friday and my off people. He would come pick me up. I was in high school. We'd go, you know, go get an IV. Like all period in the middle of the day.

Middle of the day. Middle of the day. Get an IV. What? Oh, yeah. We're getting just saline IVs game day. Because I remember one game I cramped. I cramped against Grandview High School. Like my sophomore year, first game in the fourth quarter,

calf cramps, double calf cramps. He's like, you're never cramping again. IVs never cramped again. Oh, yeah. And even like little things, like you're wearing jeans? Like, my school was a private. at school. You wear jeans or, you know, no sweats, whatever. You wearing jeans to school? He doesn't even remember this, but I remember it. It's pretty heavy on the legs, don't you think? Like,

I'm not going to know. Like, you're kind of right. War sweats, got in trouble. Didn't he's like, look, dude, you got to be comfy during the day. You got to be relaxed. Like, this is how you act on a game day. Like, this is what you do. Like, all that pep rally shit, like, don't be yelling. Don't be losing your voice when you're out in the sun. If you squint, you're wasting energy. Like, make sure you had it. Like, I'm talking. And I didn't realize. So like people who like know me now and they see, you know, taking how I take care of my body and like the warm ups and all these stuff. It's like that's been like bread in us since I was a kid. Like it's been taught to us for the longest time.

Like, hey, this is and that's what he did. And he was over the top. Like there's guys in his team were like, what the hell is this guy? This guy's nuts. But, you know, I mean, I always felt like I had a chip on my shoulder and people were going to count me out. And so I was going to do everything human. going to weigh in at like the washing i mean everybody did this but like i go on my washington visit i think i was like one i had to be 182 or something like that's how much i weighed

and uh he put like we put like little 10 10 pound like slit squares in my shoes or in my socks in case they made me take my shoes off so that if you take your shoes off you know obviously they're still in your socks and i ended up weighing like 198 i had like a thick pair of puffy jeans on like the whole nine. Every trick in the book that you could think of. He was aware. No, to the high school. University of Washington.

So your dad knew you're going pro the minute you came out of the womb. When the coaches, when the college coaches would come to my high school. And like I was never small, so to say. But I was always, people would say I'm small. Like, you know, I wasn't 2.30. But he's like, when the coaches come, like, you got to go knock out. like 25 in the bathroom. Like, so I would be doing pushups,

bathroom floor, curls in with my backpack, before like, you know, some QC from, you know, Tennessee would come by. He's not going to offer me at all anyway. But my veins are popping out. I'm like, coach, nice to meet you. Like, the whole nine. Yo, that's hilarious, bro.

That makes sense because you were dressed up professionally when you visited Washington for your draft visit. because he was sitting in the special teams room with the special teams coordinator because remember we met that day i came in and you're like sitting there and you got like this collared shirt on everything else i was like oh man i didn't i didn't know that wasn't a 20 minutes if i break i remember i did i did every visit i took i was like i thought that's what people did like that if i knew like you know that guy's kind of going overboard i probably would have you know maybe just not to tie you know maybe not to tie maybe just a shirt just the fact that he's in the special teams coordinator's office like he's obviously going to be a

Top 10 pick. Running back, yeah. Yeah. And he's in there talking teams. He's in you hard. Yeah. He's talking teams in every 50 minutes. He's like, hey, coach, I got to go the bathroom real quick.

Gets another 20. Yeah. Watching Will Compton pass sets. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. He's got great square shoulders in that. Great square shoulders. Like, people forget you played nine years in the NFL.

People forget. Like, it's funny. And it's, oh, it's, well, he's like nine years in the league, man. That's pretty. Really? Let me get that. That's pretty impressive. No?

Am I wrong? No, you're right. Hey, brother. I think we're all kind of worried because I will, he played 10 years now. 10 years happened. No, I was just thinking, I'm just wondering, you know, I'll call it 10. A little compliment.

We'll call it 10. You say Christian McAfree. You said Christian McAfree. You're 11. You're 11, your 11's alive and well right now. That is, that's all eyes are on your 11 right now for Wilcompton. When you years in the NFL, when did you know

like, okay, I'm going to make it to the NFL? Had to be at eight years old. Eight years old. Double side of tape. You're like, this is fucking, this is it. I remember I would go to like, for me it was, I always knew how hard it was to get to the end. Like, like, while I knew I was good,

I always knew there was like another level. And I'd never gone against that other level. So I used to go to those All-American, like the, you know, the FBU, All-American games when I was in like the seventh and eighth grade. And I just remember them hype. Like, they thought I was the punter. They gave me like the, you know,

they spelled my name wrong on the jersey. And I just, like, stuff like that mattered to me. And I just used to piss me off so much. And it always, like, stuck with me. And they would hype up these other backs, like these other guys, you know, like so much. And that was, like, the poster of their whole thing. I'm like, I'm fucking better than that dude. Who somebody you're thinking about?

was somebody in the class? What was the guy thinking about right now? He's my guy. That's okay. And I love him. And he was, and by the way, at the time looking back, he probably, he probably had the edge on me, which is tough to admit. Yeah, but what's the day?

Sonny Michelle. Soony Michelle ran 10-7 in the eighth grade. And you would have thought this guy, I mean, he was an impressive. He played varsity as an eighth grader. And I just remember, like, he was the gold standard in the middle. I'm talking about middle school football right now. But you say you play. Who's the most, a 10-7 in eighth grade?

Seriously fast. How do you play varsity in eighth grade? American Heritage High School. I seen all his highlight tapes. Like, he didn't even know this, by the way. Like, but now he does. Yeah, I used to like, like, I don't know what the rule was in Florida, but in Fort Lauderdale, I guess, like, they let him play varsity.

I mean, he was balling. Five-year letterman in high school. So he was the, yeah, he was, you know, and then did the same thing, went to the, like, Army All-American Games, same. And it's all the backs that are in the league. So, like, looking back, I should have been like, hey, man, you're in the right class. Like, these are good, you know, good backs. But I was, it was still like a, I always had to prove myself everywhere I've been.

And, you know, I mean, it is what it is. I feel like that's everyone's story. It's not like just me. I feel, you know, the more I talk to people and more like, yeah, same, you know. But we all make up some into me and our head. Yeah, everybody has their own origin story. Absolutely. Like, they, I don't know.

They got like three guys in my house. head right now. It's like I remember, I remember looking at dudes being like, these guys fucking don't even know. They have no idea what's about to come. Combine, E-R-Y, dude. I'll never forget it. And I didn't even realize it either. I didn't look at like the way they spelled my name. So I did the whole thing. My buddies are hitting me up like, dude. Yeah. Damn, though. They disrespected you. Yeah. How does that make you feel? You know what, too? It's like, because I get like salty like that, I, I notice it. more. Like, I'm sure most people who aren't bitter like me, they're probably like, yeah,

whatever, like, who cares? You know, and they're fine. It doesn't matter. But because I like, you know what I mean? I don't know. Like you said, you always create an enemy. And I think that's what keeps guys going. Like I, it's, you, you have to keep that chip. Otherwise, it's, it's just tough to find a purpose. You're not, uh, you're not the minority. I feel like, keeping the chip. Like, there's way more guys like that. And the most of the time that there are these successful guys that have that chip always that are like this people are out to get me and one one little thing like spelling your last name wrong like this is all I needed like this is the affirmation I need to know yeah yeah know that like these people are really truly out to get me yeah exactly that's how you

feel you're like they want me to fail yes yeah and and honestly if you really were able to zoom out no one's thinking about you couldn't care less not one person probably the marketing dude who like couldn't even like he's just putting together like doing the jerseys in the back it's not like yeah the NFL's not against Roger Goodell Roger Goodell was like fuck it up dude we cannot have a white running back in the NFL right now all the guys name wrong

yeah he's a joke yeah it's crazy but and sometimes it is like that but you know there's real stuff that where you're like man somebody actually might feel like that but then you find the little things that just kind of subconsciously confirm it and it's like I was just keeping me alive right now like that's what's

That's what's waking me up. You do seem super fucking competitive. What's keeping you alive right now? Man, that game, that last game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That'll, I think everybody kind of feels that, you know. It's your whole off season.

The whole, yeah, I mean, there's a lot, you know. It was a good revival of a year of like, all right, let's go. You know, that's how I feel. You hope to play against Carolina? Soon. I think it'd be awesome. Dude, that was the best possible answer you could have had. They are, do you guys play them next year?

I don't think we play him next year, no. I know we don't play them next year. You know, you know, they don't. We have any other questions. I see it's going over. It's going over. You got a heart. I just want to ask real quickly, what's that?

All right, cool. Eight minutes. All right. Matt Ruhle, he is now the head coach of Nebraska. What things do you have, like, obviously his time in Carolina was up and down. He got fired, but what do you think is going to make him successful? Or if he's even going to be successful in Nebraska. Like, what?

What can I look forward to? Yeah, what can we look forward to? Seriously, the boys will play hard. Like, that's one thing with Coach Ruhl, you know, you buy into his way. Like, guys play hard, man, from top to bottom. I mean, you know the deal in the NFL, how tough it is to coach in this league, and a lot of things have to go right. I always said, like, head coaching quarterback, way too much credit, way too much blame.

But, no, I have nothing but good things to say about Coach Ruel. He got us going, man. He really, from the first year he got there too and the different things that he did and learned in his time and his ability to change the things that he thought were wrong, I thought was impressive too. Like openness to talk to guys being able to, you know, say, hey, that was probably wrong of me to do and then change and actually go by it. You know, understanding like, hey, I don't have it all figured out. I'm in year one, too. Adaptability. But, I mean, you saw the success he had in college, man.

I think it's a reason. We're on our way back. Yeah. Fires me up. That's amazing. Well, it does seem like a consistent message. Like, as far as like, was Matt Ruhl the one, was Christian, the one Matt Ruhl said, saw his family in the airport? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was very complimentive of you said that you were walking out. I think it was when he got, when you got traded. Yeah.

And you saw his family. And his kids in the airport. And you went up to them and said, what's up? It's onward, man. Onward and upward. Dude. You guys. That stuck with him.

Is it? Yeah. Yeah. It was weird, honestly. It's like, this is an interesting. A head coach gets canned. I get canned. It's like.

Yeah. Brother, you didn't get canned. No, but you know what I mean? Yeah. You got to tell you. Would they get in the trade? What did Carolina get? They got a two, a three, a four, and a five.

Not all in the same year. I think it's over a couple years. Hey, man. You know, he told himself that, too. Like, oh, they didn't get me a first? Okay. Okay. I know how I would have handled it.

And I took that personal. Yeah, dude. Do we got it? And I've had? I think one that comes to mind was the first play of the Rose Bowl. I was, you know, that was a game that I don't think anybody knew it was going to happen. And I was pissed off. And I just lost the Heisman to the boy, Derek Henry.

Um, who's the boy, by the way? I love that guy. Do you really? Yeah, I really do. I want to not like him. I want to not like him. I can't. I love his game.

I love him. I think he's great. But then a couple years ago when you beat us in Carolina, you're like, that's for you, Derek. Yeah. Yeah. But that game, that game, you know, I think that that play sparked just a one of those games where just everything goes right for you. You know, I think like the safety came down. the middle linebacker slip so there's no whole player

and then there's nobody behind the guy. So all I had to do is make him miss and got it in just house call. And I think we all knew like this is about to be one of those games. And then the flip against when I jumped over that dude against Jacksonville, that was a fun play. That hurt, my back hurt for like six weeks after that. But that was a memorable one. That's fucking awesome.

I know, right? Mitch you got anything? Garrett, Jack? We were winning. You know, I mean, I think, like, I have a hard time like when you're losing, like celebrating like it's kind of like the urgency to like get back to the huddle and get going a little bit is you know and you're not the first person that said that and i it might too be just like when you get traded it's it there's a lot of pressure that comes with that because you're on a new team but

there's also like an amount of pressure that just gets off your shoulders we're like you know what man like i'm gonna just go have fun playing football because this is what i love to do and you know I just think we had so many tough seasons in Carolina that I wanted more to celebrate than like the touchdown. You know, I wanted to win games. I wanted to be like not just win one, win a couple in a row and then start to get momentum. Then you start to see the boys having a little more fun. But just tough sometimes. That fires me up, dude.

I'm glad you with, I'm glad you with San Fran. Because I feel like you guys are, they can be good for a while. Yeah. I got the organization running smooth. It's just getting to the fucking Super Bowl. Yeah. Right. you're not going to get Rogers though.

Roger said he's not going to San Fran. You say that? The Raiders might have a shot at him. We'll see. Yeah, if the Raiders are the big one. Yeah. Big one for him. But I thought he said it in a golf tournament.

I'm not going to San Fran. Yeah, I think he said that. Did he say that? I don't know. I am crushing this podcast. What kind of father you think you're going to be? Kind of father? Are we getting jersey tackles?

Are we grounding the kids? I mean, you got to do what you know. That's all I knew. All that a boy. I worry about that, though. I worry about that. I worry about that. It's like, is my kid going to hate me? Like, hey, man, come over here real quick.

We're going to tape your jersey. Put it in front of the fireplace and do all this stuff. And it was like 7.30. All right. I'm for bed. Like, what? You got home from hoops? Like, but no, I mean, it's funny because it started to work like when he did that.

And I was like, damn, like, all right. That's the way it is. That's the way it is. And I enjoyed having success more than I enjoyed, like, you know, staying up and all that stuff. It was fun for me. So I think all of us hated it at times, but we all understood it, all four of us, definitely.

But yeah, so what am I going to be? I don't know. That's a good question. Maybe my kid will, like, do music or something and teach me some stuff about, I don't know, who knows? Dude, I appreciate you coming on. And I just remember, too, like, your dad was one of my first NFL action figures. Oh, nice.

Yeah, so he's watching this, Mr. McCaffrey, you were one of my first action figures, my dad, you know, white receiver. Hey, white guy, you're going to be like him. He's going to be you. Yeah. I'm going with you, sort of. But thanks for coming on, man. It's been awesome.

I appreciate you having me, man. Appreciate you having me. Thanks for talking about all the, you know, 49er stuff, the trade. Yeah. It'll be, I think it'll be taking way. It'll be a good insight for people to see, like, where your mindset was at. Because I know a lot of people are wondering. I can't wait for the stories with the old man going coming out.

I can see that stuff. Like Jersey, Jersey fucking getting grounded. He might not see it, but one of his buddies is going to see it. He's like, hey, did you see this? He's like, huh? What? He said what? Yeah.

He's going to go watch all them videos. All the McCaffrey, bro. He'll be like, yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. That's fucking awesome, dude. Is he here? He's here.

Yeah, he's doing about, I think he's at Radio Row doing some media. He does some stuff with Sirius. Hell yeah, dude. He's still in the game. Still in the game, man. Still in the game, crushing it. And close to ball. That's how staying.

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