Bussin' With The Boys - College Football Spring Tour Is Announced, Dana White Explains His Distaste For Mainstream Media + Plans For Power Slap League and McGregor vs Chandler

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

Recorded: February 9th 2023 | This week the boys announce all of the stops for this years spring tour along with the itinerary for each stop. Start planning now. Following the intro, the President and Founder of the UFC, Dana White, joins the boys out in Arizona. Dana quickly dives into his strong distaste for mainstream media and why he enjoys doing podcasts. He then goes onto explain his next business venture, the Power Slap League. Dana says why he decided to purchase the league and the plans he has for it going into the future. Finally the boys preview the new season of the Ultimate Fighter with Mike Chandler and Conor McGregor along with the fight that follows. We all became huge Dana fans after this episode and hopefully you do as well, enjoy. 0:00 Intro 32:52 DANA WHITE INTERVIEW STARTS 34:48 social media talk and how much he loves it 37:38 why current media sucks 38:48 Ultimate fighter with Chandler and McGregor 40:13 Do you set guidelines for what you can say etc. 41:58 is there ever someone that gets so big that they can call the shots 44:03 why does the ufc get so much crap for not paying fighters 45:18 why do people leave the UFC 47:38 who are some of the fighters that are hard to deal with and making deals with them 54:03 trying to “convince” people to stay home and watch fights 55:48 power slap league 1:04:38 where/how do you find talent for slap league 1:10:18 things you can take from starting UFC and transfer into the slap league and do differently 1:12:33 when is chandler vs mcgregor and how does he see it going 1:15:23 what would dana tell his younger self about starting UFC and Slap etc SUPPPORT OUR SPONSORS Chevy Silverado - The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever.For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you feel smiling and seeing them new pearly whites? Because I'm not amazing. I feel like you're amazing. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, boys. I appreciate it. I got them done last night, and I literally go home and I was like kind of showing tail on my teeth. What do you think? And you're thinking like I'm hype, but there's also a level of insecurity. Like, you're hoping they look really good. And you're hoping people are matching the same energy as you. But, like, I realized, because I noticed when you got your teeth done, like, your mouth is just always open, low-key. Like, your live is always kind of full back. And I'm kind of like, and I'm kind of like,

looking at people like this now. Yeah. And, you know, so I'm kind of pretty fired up, dude. I'm pretty fired up right now. You got a fresh cut right away. You got the little good. Thanks, dude. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Mom's been sick today, so I brought Willow with me. We went to the dentist together. Got a haircut together. And now she's on the bus. Everybody welcome Willow to the show. Willow.

Yeah. Look, she's all fired out. I tell you all. She's fired out of twill in that hair. You got a mold like that. Daddy. Why are they all clapping? Yeah.

I can't hear it. Oh, you can't hear it? That's because we're doing an intro to Daddy's work now. This is Daddy's work. This is what Daddy does for work. You get to hear Bustin with the boys. This is exclusive. Willow does like to,

like, now that she has the headphones on, like we don't do iPads very much at all. But when we do, it's like flights, situations like this. And like, any time, like, you got to get something done. And you're like, bro, I just need you to just chill for a second. Yeah. But she doesn't, she did like, you know,

when you have your headphones on, you don't know how loud you're talking. Now when she needs our attention, she's going to scream. She's going to be yelling. She's like, Daddy! That's right. Because her mouth is doing this. I'm like, oh, yeah, dude, that's sick. We'll be on the plane.

Like, people are like 6 a.m. flights, like going to Park City. And people will be sleeping. She'll be like, Daddy! Like, all right, dude. Yeah. You got to check this out. She's dialed right now, boys. Oh, what do you got?

Nothing. I'm going to say we got a surprise. I know. I'm actually fired up. What is it a good surprise? It's a fire surprise. Am I going to love it or is this like a surprise like we're coming at Taylor? You're going to love it.

No, you're going to love it. Hang on. What did, uh, we love a rumor. Okay, so it's rumor. You're going to love it. These are just rumors. It's speculation. Okay.

But here's the surprise. Taylor has not heard the surprise. Garrett, I, the crew, we all know because we just got off a FaceTime with a bar stool. And they have some solid news, an interesting partner that might come in the wholesaling game. So some of our dad merch. Costco? Some of our hang. Slow it down.

some of our dad merch is rumored and it's just speculation. This is allegedly. Allegedly. We're going to go into Dick's Sportyman. No shit, here. And Golf Galaxy. Let's go. And Garrett, the golf boy said golf galaxy is like, it's like, what did you say? It's like an adult film store for golfers? Love that.

It's an adult film store for golfers and golf products. And golf products. Wait, they want to take our dad merch and put it in their store. Yeah, like our dad golf collab that we are... The greatest year of our lives. The greatest year of our lives. Oh my God, dude. But it's going to be like allegedly 25 stores and then you can, obviously, you can get it online.

And we're hoping to do a red ribbon cut at Dix here in Nashville. Are you serious? That's a self, that's like self-proclaim. We're just going to grow. We're going to go there and just... Yeah, we'll just go there and have a big... But we need the giant scissors. We need like ones that are like, we actually need both of us to use it.

We're so heavy and baked. But bro. He's a call to arms, too. If we shout out one thing on the... the pod, we'll have 100 people there for our ribbon cutting ceremony. Yes, bro, we'll try to get Nashville. Like, we're all coming together to do this ribbon cut. But how sick is it?

It's like there's a couple. Allegedly, there's a couple polo. There's two polos, which the patterns are awesome. There's a golf cover, a club cover. And then there's a, what is it? A little Q's zip. With like a cool design inside the collar, it's, we were all fired up when the phone call got done. We're all dapping up.

Boy, this year is really shaping up. shaping up. What hell of a day for you to hear that news on top of the teeth? I know. I know. Dude, I am feeling

fucking... I am feeling different, dude. I am feeling absolutely like different. Things are things are on the way up right now, boys.

And you're going to look spectacular for draft coverage. Aren't you going to be doing draft coverage this weekend? For those of you who are watching this episode, this episode comes out tomorrow, which is Thursday. Sunday, NFL network,

I believe, the 130 slots at 2.30. and then 3.30 to 4.30. I am doing like draft analysis, combine analysis at Indianapolis in Lucas Oil Stadium. It'll be as average as it gets boys and girls, but I will try to be as entertaining as I possibly can be.

Who are you going to do with us? I think Dion Dawkins is going to be there. Dion Dawkins, Rich Eisen, our boy, Richie, will be out there. This squad will be out there. And I think I'm not sure, because for whatever reason, people don't like to tell me shit anymore. Like when I did the mega cast, I was going to be a booth

And all of a sudden I was on the field And so your boy is kind of a fly by the seat of his pants kind of dude right now I think I'm going to be on the field I think I'm going to be on the field with these dudes If not I'll be in the booth with Rich and the boys I had a nice little suit plan But it sounds like I'm wearing a colored shirt now But I thought to myself

Put a mullet on dude Get the energy going And we're going to have a hell of a time During what is usually people's least favorite time Which is when the O liner O liner doing the combine Yes All right

an absolute blast. That's why they're calling the boy in. Hey, it's going to be so much fun. My goal? I'm going to sniff out who that next left tackle for the Tennessee Titans are going to be. I'm going to find the best one. You think Tennessee should go left tackle in the first round? Bro, we got so many damn holes.

I know, bro. They got so many issues out there. No, this is not a shot. This is literally what I'm seeing. What we're all seeing is we're all a little scared of this next NFL season right now. But in Rand, we trust. And Mike Vribal, we trust. We got to understand that these boys got to go to work.

this offseason make free agency look great. Pay Jeffrey Simmons while also paying other players getting some studs in there and then have a hell of a draft. And let's get back to the top at the AFC South Boys.

Let's fucking do this. Willow, do this. I can't wait until she yells at me. She was just like nod. Yeah, she's like, hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah, brother. But yeah, dude,

NFL network on Sunday. It's going to be an electric factory. I can't tell you that I'm going to give you the best information you're ever going to get in your life, but I will try to have as much fun as possible, and I hope you'd have fun with me, too. It's going to be awesome.

Yeah, I can't wait to tune in. It'll be a great time for sure. We're going to have, it's going to be a blast. And while you're there, like, let's start, now that it is a new year, we should start, like, dialing in when Rich can come on the bus for real. Yeah, that is, that is officially, it's officially Rich Eisen season.

Yeah. I will literally talk to him on Sunday. Here's what I'm worried about is there was an opportunity for Rich to come on our podcast in AZ. Yeah. And we kind of shut it down. There was one night where I called Rich or I said, hey, I'm eating dinner. I'm going to call you in a little bit with Will. And I never called.

So now I've got to do a lot of kind of backpedaling, being like, hey, listen, I know I dropped the ball in the communication standpoint. We didn't want him on the podcast in Arizona. We want him on the actual bus where my beautiful daughter is sitting right now. But Rich was when he hit the trip chat the next thing. He's like that dinner lasts a little long. I was like, man. Yeah, I dropped the ball on that. But that was a true decision.

Like, it is best that he's in Nashville and he's on the bus. We could have took the easy way out and got us all together. while we were in Arizona, but that's not, that's not with the whole chase. It's not with the whole, what is it? What am I trying to say here? That's been the goal from the get-go. Yeah. That's been the goal from the get-go.

And Jack's been putting in work. He's at 280-plus days right now. That is what I can't wait to dive into for real and figure out if this has, if the continuity has been there to see if Jack is going to earn himself a Chevy Silverado. Yeah. Only time will tell. Yep, he says he hasn't missed a day. The fine print of everything is you cannot miss one day.

If you miss one day, we can be as upset as we want, but... That's what we agreed on, right? That's what the missed day. You're not going to be upset. You're not understanding it to yourself. Yeah. That's great. And that's all we need to hear.

That's a team guy. You got to be able to watch the day. But, you know, Jack does do this little thing where he does, like, just Alvin Kamara, right? Josh Dob is on the podcast. He's all of a sudden agreeing that he was an underutilized player. The next week, Derek Henry's on the podcast. Derek Henry starts looking at me and like, I'm fucking crazy. his eyes get big like he's in a 99-yard run

and all of a sudden someone's jumping on the back of Derek saying whatever to me, dude. I know that is true, but that, you know. You got to play to your advantage. Yeah, dude. You got to play to your advantage. Not a play to your ad-a-boy, Jack. Your glasses look cool, too.

They do. I don't know whose they are. And they matched the little NASCAR on some fairs what you're going for. And your T-shirt rips too. Yeah, shot a. Hey, maybe a little. little, I'm blanking on the word foreshadowing. Foreshadowing, yes.

We're back. Maybe Nickelback came on the podcast. Maybe it didn't. Maybe they gave us those shirts. Maybe they're coming here August 1st and we're going to be at the concert, maybe doing special things. Maybe. You never know what's going to happen because it's 0.23.

The best year of Buston with the boys' history. It's going to be amazing, boys. I'm siked. I'm siked. I'm siked, pro. Is there anything going on out in the world? And I feel like I'm looking at Mitch because I feel like he might know that we should talk about her cover.

Should we, here's what I think we should do before Mitch even says that. Should we release where we have decided we are going for our spring football tour? That is an incredible idea. I totally, I totally forgot about that. Yes, dude. All right. You want to pull the list up? Yeah, pull the list up.

All right, and we'll hype it up. We'll hype up each one. Pull the list up. Now, the spring tour, here's what is happening on the spring tour. Just like last year, we went to Nebraska, Michigan, and the University of Tennessee. We did four or five interviews. We got in, we got off with a vlog, we got out. This year, we have expanded the team list to six, actually, now.

In five of those locations, we're doing a couple interviews on, you know, at the college. We are doing a vlog. We're going to be in the city. We're going to be on campus trying to eat at a staple, touring, whatever. The big addition that we are adding this year, the element. Tell it, Willie. Live shows. Woo!

Taylor and I, we're giving. A local venue, there will be probably two to three hundred spots at each spot that we go to, each city, each campus that we're in. And that'll be, we'll be doing a live show like 7 o'clock at night. Fans, there'll be tickets, VIP, photos, fun, energy, vibes. You guys know the drill. But with that said, you guys know that we're doing interviews. We're going to do vlogs. And now we're adding the element of the live show at five campuses.

We'll show you we will release the details of the fun little six spot that we're going to. Right. And yeah, because originally we were just going to do five places. Now some crazy stuff happened where we actually added a six. We'll get to that. Dark Horse came in out of nowhere. Out of nowhere, dude. Shout out.

Sheproill High School, dude. Shout out, shout out. Shout out. Sheproil. But the first date, March 15th, every one of these dates will be on a Wednesday and the live show will happen that Wednesday evening. March 15th, the first campus we were going to, the University of South Carolina. Let's go, boys.

The Gamecocks. The Bangkok, boys. I think we'll be sitting down with Coach. Beamer and Spencer Rattler. Who was going to go to the NFL draft decided not to go to the NFL draft because he wants to come back

and bring them an SEC championship. We'll see. We saw what happened, Jack. I don't think you're in a place to talk right now. I was with you that game. This year, I don't think I'm with you so much. March 22nd,

the boys on the bus will be in Austin, Texas at the University of Texas that burnt orange. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We're not boomering boys. We're horns up right now. We're horns up right now.

We are buying into the culture. Hey, McConaughey, we're looking at you, brother. We're looking at you. We would love to have him on the bus. Absolutely love to have him on the bus. Obviously, doing a live show in Austin, it would be incredible. Now, I am not going to... This is a little bit of a speculation.

March 22nd is the day that we'll be doing our live show. We kind of know where the live show is going to be. I am under the same impression right now that the Joe Rogan will also be... doing a show in the same place that night. Is it an opportunity to go on this podcast? As you want to have a set of this podcast? That answers probably no. But is it an opportunity for us to push

and get the boats moving in the right directions? Because that's when you do it, boys. That's when you fucking do it. We get after it. Or people who are listening that might be thinking about, oh, I want to go to the boys show now and then I'll hit Rogan after. If you just get a little for the boy chant going while Joe, like when he comes on, so he knows what's going on here? Can you pass my daughter? My daughter's water to me? Because I got a little tickle in the back of the throat here. March 29.

we will be attending the rival. Oh, the greatest rivalry in all of sports. We will be going to the Ohio State University. Good and just Ohio State University. It is the Ohio State University. We will be in Columbus. Columbus, Ohio, boys. Yes.

Going into enemy territory to see what they're really cooking up over there. They've lost two to Michigan. They can't seem to win a Bayton championship in the 20s. We're going to find out why. I want to sit down with Ryan Day and find out why are you one and two against the University of Michigan and the last coach to do that, Jonathan Cooper in 1989, when one and two.

He also ended up going one, 10, and one. That's just a little stat for you guys. Love a good history lesson. How is he going to get over that hurdle? Do I want them to? Absolutely not. But do I want to find out a little information? Maybe report back to the boys.

I'm not saying I am going to. I'm just saying maybe draw down a couple of things. I am, this is probably the one I'm most fired up for. Oh, I'll say, which, if we got to pick one player, who do we think it would be? One player, Harrison, Jr.? Is C.J. left. Yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr. is the one. CJ Stroud, he's gone.

He's going in the draft. I wonder how that will cook up with their pro days. If we're in line, you never know? You never know. But I would love to meet with Ryan Day. Ohio State came out of nowhere because Brian Hartline, Coach Hartline, he's a wide receiver coach for Ohio State was a stud when he was a receiver for the Dolphins, yeah? Yeah, because he was on my fantasy team when you're a.

Shout out the boy. He DMed. It was like, yo, you guys can come to Ohio State. We'll hook it up. we'll make sure you have a good time. And I was like, that fires me up, dude,

because we did talk about that a little bit at the Super Bowl, how cool it would be to go to Columbus. Yes. So, like, check it out. Now,

I was in Columbus for college game day for the game. And I thought to myself, I'm literally going to get assaulted here and I'm going to deserve every part of it. If you guys don't know about my history,

your boy, you got some history there. Ohio State fan when I was a senior in high school or college. And so now I thought I was about to get minds. People were incredibly nice. All the rumors I was told about

people would be like, fuck you, Taylor, Dude, actually keep going. Sorry, Willow, I shouldn't have cursed, but you got the headphones on. You didn't hear me one bit. Good dad, good dad.

Go ahead, Willie. Oh, you ready? Yeah. April 5th. The boys are going down to the Bayou. Going to Louisiana State University. We're talking friends. We're talking mics.

We're talking bogeys, even though I heard bogeys closed down. That's a huge bummer. We were doing the live show at Friends. We're doing a live show at Friends. When I was there, my junior year of college, I went down there I wasn't allowed in because I was wearing a plain-colored t-shirt

and visible tattoos. with hearings. You guys said I couldn't come in. Looks like we're in a full circle situation here. We'll love to sit down with Brian Kelly and learn where you learn that accent in such a quick pace. Coming from Notre Dame to LSU. If I was going to be an individual going back to high school

and I couldn't go to the University of Michigan, the school I would want to go to is LSU. I am so fired up to see Mike the Tiger, maybe catch a baseball game because their baseball games fill out, brother. It's an open container law there too. New Orleans is its own world. It's a third world country with a first world mindset, boys we're getting after it every single day.

Shout out Louisiana. They absolutely whip. When you leave in that airport, it smells like, you know. Have you flown to Bat Rouge? Yeah, when I was, you know, a cup of coffee with the Saints. Yeah. Yeah. And you want to know a little fun stat about your boy?

I do want a little fun set about your boy. 10 years old went to a baseball camp at LSU. No way. Got to read the difference between a four seam and a two seam. And your boy went 19 for 20 when that picture was throwing at me. Yeah, bro. On saying out loud with the, you know, not to brag. Yeah, not to brag.

10 years old LSU baseball camp. Wilco team is really him. It's about time we start giving him the respect he deserve. I appreciate that. Before we go off of LSU, I would love to start a personal campaign. If we can get Livy done on the pod, I think that we're going to send into new heights. I don't know if y'all know who Livy is. She's done.

She's 20 years old, Jack. Yeah. We're trying to get Jack a date. We're trying to get Jack a date. Yeah, she's pretty, Jack. I'm not trying to have a date. I just know she has a huge, you know, engagement. Oh, you're trying to have us do an interview with her.

Who knows? We'll have you Maybe you can fall in love for the night Who knows what's going to happen What we're trying to swing For the live event The boy playoff Lenny Fournett, dude Yo

Lenny knows this that private jet down there too So Lenny we'll be looking to you He said good food too What do you say? That's in New Orleans We were going back and forth I was like hey do you have the same number He had one digit off

But he sent me his number I texted him like hey this is This is Will Compton And I'm like I have a question for you He facetimes me right away. No way. Facetimes me.

It really is like him. And he did it. He asked about you. I said, how my boy doing? Oh, yeah. Your boy's doing great. Yeah. I was like, oh, he's flourishing.

He's doing a great job. April 12th. April 12th. We will be going to Boulder, Colorado. The University of Colorado. We're going to get this rivalry started. Not started. We're going to reboot this rivalry between Colorado and Nebraska.

Nebraska. Get some shit talking. Go and sit down with Dion. Prime Time. Kids in the room. This. is, I think this is perfect. You announcing the last one.

And I think it fits because shout out Chaparral High School. Sheperel. Yeah, Chaparral. So originally we were going to do five. You heard that earlier before we started this very long-winded announcement for where we were going for our spring football tour. Coach Dillingham, you all know who that is? He was, I believe, two years older than me at Chaparral High School.

He is now the head coach of the ASU, I think, Sun Devils. ASU Sun Devils, who got offered from. them. I got an offer from them in high school. I'm just going to say, Charlie Regal, who is my head coach in high school, is now a special team's coach there. They hit us up during the Super Bowl week. They said, hey, we would love to sit down with you guys. Maybe we'd be doing an episode. I thought that would be a phenomenal idea. However,

they reached out to us at the Super Bowl and say, hey, we love to sit down with you guys. We ended up because we had a jam-pack schedule. It was unbelievable. I was gay for 72 hours. It was a wild situation. Now, fast forward, fast forward, the boys call us up and say, hey, we want

not only you guys to be the coach. of each spring game team. What we want, hold on, baby. What we want is for you and Will Compton to be the head coaches of each spring team, and we're going to call it the Buston Spring game. That is incredible. That's an opportunity.

D-1 Power 5 school has asked the boys to literally be head coaches for a day. That being said, that'll be going down that week. So it'll be a lot of fun things. Obviously, Arizona's an incredible place, a lot of fun times there to be had. we are going to have such a great time and that's why we had to add

a sixth location to our bus and spring tour not doing a live show that week. That's the only spot we're not doing a live show. A lot of shows are a lot of work, dude, and they cause a lot of anxiety in the boy. I'm thinking, man, I hope we just don't let y'all down and you can come enjoy an episode with us. I think it's going to be amazing.

It is going to be so much fun. New places, new friends, new experiences. This is going to be an incredible spring tour. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing. With that being said, I think we should take a break. I think we should go to our tier talk next.

We can do best casino games. Hey, we will be in Vegas next. Oh, dude, one more announcement for the boys out there. Yeah, that's going to basically kick off the spring that we're about to have. Yeah. Next Thursday, the boys are going to Las Vegas, Nevada for work, boys and girls. Dana White, the episode you're about to watch was incredible. He truly is an awesome dude.

I enjoyed every single bit about him. I enjoy how his mind works in the business. standpoint of understanding how to acquire the PSL and knowing that how our little brains work nowadays with all the stuff we got going on on the screens, how we computerize and take down information into our own heads. He bought PSL. They're having their first live event this next coming Saturday. So not the Saturday that's up next, but the one after that. We're leaving Thursday. I believe we're doing interviews. We're doing UFC Media Day. Maybe the little dinner with the boy, Dana. and then we are going to be at the first PCL event.

PSL. I say PCL. The first PSL event with Dana White, we cannot be more grateful or excited to head over to Sin City and enjoy that. That is going to be amazing. So I had to get that out. Hey, we're doing Tier Talk. Who's going to be the presenter?

Jack. Are you guys going to go one at a time? It's obviously going to be Jack. All right. Best Casino Games. Honorable mention. got to throw down the slots. Every now and a game to get lucky,

throwing a dollar, push it up to 100, maybe 500, didn't lose it all. Coming in at number three, we are doing roulette. Love a game of chance. Throw down a couple on this, on that. I was actually in Lake Tahoe last weekend when my buddies put down on the double zero green

and hit it. No way. He had like $30 on it. End up winning like $700. You can't beat that kind of energy. I'm pretty sure it's more than $700, brother. It was split. Oh, got you.

to 1 to 35, so he had both. But yeah, when someone hits something big on there, everybody's jumping. Hey, hey, can't beat it. Tier 2, Blackjack, love it, can't beat it. Usually getting beat by the dealer, but it's still fun to be there. You're always next to some like old dude smoking a cigarette who like really knows the game well. But number one uncontested is craps. Like you said earlier, the social aspect, like the team environment of it, you can't.

It's just so much fun. When one person's winning, almost everyone's winning, unless you're that asshole paying the don't come line. Yep, don't pass line. Yeah, well, it says don't come on the thing. It says don't pass. There's the come line in front of that. It's okay.

Come, come. On the kick drum. Perhaps number one, without a doubt, when everybody's winning, you know, you can't beat that kind of team atmosphere. So that is our three. Will? For words?

Yeah. Almost. Highenated. Right there. Similar. But, you know, yes, very similar. I know, I thought he was going to do. But different?

But you want me to go? You want to go? At the end of the day, Jack had a great list and also explained a lot of the intricate details of why they're all great. My honorable mention is going to be Texas Hold'em. Never played it at the casino. But loved it in high school. Way too intimidated to play at the casino.

Loved it in high school. Got the whole set for Christmas when it was Hot World Series of poker. You got the whole set with the chips and everything else. You'd have the boys over. You'd need $20 buy-ins. That all-time Texas hold them. Love it. Again, never played at the casino.

Too intimidated. Loved it in high school. Still we play to this day. It's a good game. My tier three is going to be craps. The reason Krapps is not higher, you guys, the whole social team aspect. You want to hear it? You want to hear it?

You did. You got them all right. All right. You got my three right. Same as the round jacks. Same as probably most people. But you're right. All right.

You want to hear me say? You want to break me down? You're right. Craps is tier three. Hang on, Willow. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Tier two.

Roulette. Love roulette. Relo game of chance. Relet's actually my first love at the casino. Because, you know, it's something you just go over there. and I'm an outside player. I don't play the numbers. I think that stuff's stupid.

You take way too much time trying to spread everything around your lucky numbers, your birthdays, you're this, you're that, your dog when he died. But roulette, love play the outside.

Evens, black, red, big black and big odd guy. Just put that out there. You guys should take that advice. Can't wait for it? Can't wait for it? No, don't touch that.

Is that it? Really it. I got my tier one to go. It's the biggest one. You know what I mean? Like, Yeah, that's not, man, dude. I'll move it away.

Tier one. My tier one. And it happened because of the boy's trip. It happened because of the boys. It happened because of the boys trip in Vegas that we had not too long ago. Blackjack, dude. When we had that little room, the little high rollers area, before the high rollers actually came in on the weekend,

when we had that Wednesday, Thursday. You remember what I'm talking about? And we were just vibing. You get a good dealer. You get a good group of guys. You're yelling. You're having your own. jargon.

We're talking football terminology the whole time. Remember, show me the back door. Tickle me in the back door? Blackjack, dude. That is my tier one. And that concludes my tier talk. All right. You ready?

Yep. Yep. Force? Not a lot of energy behind that. Yep. I don't know how to read that. Sure. Simple.

I mean, you call you Simple Jack. Spot on. Same. Nice. I'll hit my chair talk right now. I have no idea. My daughters are taking time, Bob, at this point. Listen, my tier three is going to go to roulette.

Do I love roulette? No, but I did refer to the roulette table as the ATM when I was playing. And your boy, we get down the blackjack a little bit. I say, hey, boys, I hit the ATM real quick. Go over. Quick thousand on black. Thank you very much. I'll see you later.

Now all of a sudden, we're back on the blackjack table. Oops, oops. My tier two is going to go out to crafts. I wish it was my tier one because I love the social. aspect of the game. When somebody goes on a roll, that is tier one. When somebody's ripping numbers left, right, and center, you know that everyone

is just juice. And that one handshakes, chest bumps. Yeah, that one in a hole that sits there and does the do not pass line, or as Jack likes to put it, do not come line. Like, that guy's guy, we're all fighting against. We're all getting it. You put it in.

You get a six or an eight that you can five times your bet. Then you're living on the table. Hey, let me get a hard aid over here. People are talking, chips are flying, dice are rolling. It is such an electric time. This is why it did not make my tier one. Because boys, when it goes bad, it goes bad fast. And you lose a lot of money really quickly.

My tier one is going to go because of this boy strip we had. There is nothing better than five. If you and your closest friends sitting at a table and slowly putting together cards to equal 21 and just all of you fighting against one individual with smart-ass comments they make every 15 minutes about when they win, they have in their back pocket because they've been doing it for so long. And a thing that I hate the most about Blackjack, how do those dudes count the cards so damn fast?

They're flipping them things over, and they get like a three, and you're thinking, I'm going to win, so you double whatever you have. I could have 14. I'm going to double, because I know this person's going to bust right now. All of a sudden, it's 3, 6, 17, 19, 21. Obviously, I have to stop at 17, but you know what I'm saying. They get the 21.

And it's just like, how are they counting these cards that fast? but boys, when you win, when a 10 hits, not when an ace hits on your first chart, a 10 hits, and you say, honey, it could be male or female, giving you those cards, and you say, honey, give me that backdoor loving. You start tap at the table, the boys start standing up, feelings are starting to rise, energies get up, you can feel your blood pressure truly through the roof, and you hit that ace piece. There is an electricity that goes off in your head that is comparable to nothing else

than just, I would assume, bank robbers stealing from a bank, because guess what? we're coming. We have work to do, but we're taking from you. I always go to Vegas and I say I'm willing to lose this much. Screw that, boys and girls. I'm going in there to win and to win big. I can't wait for next week. It's going to be an electric factory. My daughter is doing such a phenomenal job now. Thank you so much. That is my tear talk.

Decent. There's the same exact one as you as well. Decent. For the teeth. Teeth. Look at her teeth. Descriptive. energy electric

camaraderie that's a great one I don't think there's anything else left to say you guys stop going around and trying to massage oh yeah dude I'm going around and trying to massage us just to throw you a chip yeah you know what I'm saying

it is nothing grimy than walking up to a table watch with some dude with a chair back on his stomach is just laying there just getting destroyed by some petite Asian lady And one of our boys was doing it. It's just like, hey, like, sweating. At the table, bro. You know, they're massaging.

You know, your boys are doing it, but you walk by a hairy, you know, bald Russian cat with a jumpsuit on. It's like, buddy, what are you doing? You're in the riffraff. You're in the regular tables hanging out and you're getting a massage. Like, that's creepy, creepy central, creepy central. And they just grunt back there and they hold that $5 chip and they kind of just don't even look at them. They just give it to them. Yeah, just keep it going.

And that's what the boy was doing. Not for me. Do not ask to massage me. I'm working. I'm in business. Don't give me a drink. We are in business. We are in business. Running low hit the ATM, the roulette table. Boom. Double it ASAP. But you lose it. That's what you got to think about, you know, walking away. Yeah, you got to walk away. You have to walk away. Dana White. Incredible episode. He's a stud. He's a stud, man. He's a stud. Great business insight, too. He breaks down how he even got the PSL legal in Nevada, working through that process, why he decided to do it.

The guy is a stud, man. He's a billionaire for a reason. We are very lucky to have him on our podcast. Hopefully, a lot more times in the future as well. Hopefully we can get him on the actual bus and have some... Oh, I think that's in the future. Yeah. We got to get on with his 10x guy.

Yeah. Because he's... See that right there? It's going to get a whole lot bigger. Yeah, we had to like basically cater in some keto stuff because he was on keto. Yeah. Portelos.

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Right. Right. I mean, and then boom, within, you know, like five or six years, there were kids everywhere, you know, turning into stars on social media. Yeah, YouTube, Twitter, all that stuff. And also, it's got to help the entertainment industry so much. Like social media and the UFC, I think UFC uses the social media better than probably any other, like, even better than the NFL, better than baseball, better than baseball.

better than hockey. Like, it just seems like you guys are understanding the formula of how to get people engaged in what's going on, playing the game, getting the villain, getting the hero, bringing them together. It seems like he got a legit, well, obviously you have a legit thing going on, but it's like, I would love to tell you, it's because, you know, I was brilliant and everything else, but I hated the media so fucking bad. I hated them so bad that when you told me, wait a minute, I can cut the middleman out

and I can go directly to the fans, fucking, I'm all in. on that. Yeah. I loved it. So I was infatuated with it immediately because I hated the media. I was going to say, you jump around on all the, like you, you're in like the podcast game. You're like a guest who are like Nelke boys. Like I'm rogue and everybody. You go on all the different podcasts. Yeah, impulsive. Yeah. No, I, I love that. I love talking to these guys. All the mainstream media are exactly the same. I mean, I was just doing, you know, the radio row. over at the NFL, which I've been doing for a long time. And it's just when you get in with guys like you guys and guys that are doing podcasts

and these kids that are doing things on social media, it's real. Not fucking bullshit. It's not a bunch of fucking these jerkoffs who clickbait and do all this. I just, I mean, you start to look now like McAfee. Yeah. Look at how McAfee has blown up, right? and he's getting Aaron Rogers and these big guys because they'd rather go to him

and have a real conversation with him than these guys in the media. The unique thing about Pat McAfee, in the NFL, there's like opportunities. Like you can do like shadowing or do skill building kind of things with the, with networks. But you have to like kind of put in a resume

see if they want you to do it or not. Pat was one of those guys that put in the resume every single year, the whole eight years he was playing and got turned down every single time. Went as after he retired, tried to go do so. something more mainstream. And they're like, no, we're good on that. Fast forward to now.

And you see these bigger, the NBC's, the CBSes, the NFL networks, the ESPNs, are trying to find ways to be more like Pat. More casual. The suit and tie thing is dying. Mainstream media, as we knew it. Stand up podcasts. The mainstream media, as it was five to ten years ago, is dying. It is not dying.

It's transitioning to something that needs to feel more real for the consumer that's taking it in on a day-to-day basis. 100%. And they're all so woke, you know what I mean? That it's like you go in to do a sports interview and they're interviewing you like they're fucking 60 minutes. Well, they already have the story kind of written and they're trying to ask you.

They're trying to ask the questions that's going to fill those parts of the story, which is like why the division between like the person getting interviewed, whether it's at a press conference or something else, I feel like that's like where that hates them from because you kind of already know when somebody's asking you that question. It's like they're going to write some story that's going to have this kind of headline already on there. Like you guys are... 100%. They just want to get something out. They want Dana White

to say something that's going to make him or somebody look dumb. And then they can take that out and then get people to watch it more and more. And even if you don't give them what they want, they have some clickbait title that has nothing to do with the story. It's like... We do that. It's not even a part of the story. We'll find one with Dana. Yeah, we're going to find a clickbait

to help. Yeah. Something. But speaking of new content, speaking of content, being in the content game and doing well with that, the Ultimate Fighter is coming back. Michael Chandler, Connor, talk about that a little bit, like getting Connor,

getting him in the house and doing kind of that reality show because that show is all time. That show is all time. Yeah, it was, you know, it's all about timing when these things happen. When there's a new season

of the ultimate fighter, we're always looking for who's busy, who's got fights going on, whatever, and then we look at who's available and what fights make sense and who would make sense to coach.

And this one just landed on our lap. year Connor is coming back. Obviously there's been a lot of talk about Connor and Chandler. You know, they're both in the right place at the right time. And at the end of the day, you know they'll both be great coaches. And even more importantly, you know, that fight will be absolute and total violence. Yeah. It will not go the distance.

Yeah, I agree. I will not go to the distance. And it's a funny thing because these are two guys that have shown interest in fighting each other. Yet I think they're, we'll see when they get together. but there's a level of respect, respect between these two, too. Is there a point, though, like when you go do the Ultimate Fighter and you have a polarizing figure like Connor McGregor, a guy like Michael Chandler who has put himself as the All-American boy, like he is well-spoken, doesn't really curse, like family man, he's got that vibe to him.

Is there a way you guys sit down and be like, hey, here's kind of the rule. Like, let's, no rules, but let's have a guideline when it comes to us, like, Connor, do your best not to cross these X, Y, and Z lines. Or you kind of just let him figure out them for themselves. That's not the vibe with him. really who he is he's he's he's such a good person uh michael i like him a lot and i have a lot of respect for him but we don't ever tell these guys what to do or what to say or how to act or whatever it's what makes the it's the reason we're in 30 something seasons of the ultimate fighter when they get in there whatever happens happens and we film it that's just the way it goes

there's no there's no guidance there's no any of that stuff um and it's it's what makes each season very unique because just when you think you've seen it all, something new happens every season. It's going to be incredible. It is going to be cool. This is the first season that's actually been on ESPN, the network. Usually they were on plus since we did the ESPN deal. This year it'll be on the network.

Big Numbies. It'll be big. It'll be massive. Yeah. Which will make the fight even more massive. Yeah, the fight's going to be. Yeah, people getting to watch them on a day-to-day basis just chirping at each other over and over again.

I mean, Connor's got a silver tongue and I'm excited to see what Cheeky things Mike's got playing. We are we were talking before. That's our boy. Mike lives in Nashville. We are rooting for Mike. But I got into the UFC with Richie Incognito. Do you ever met Richie? No, but I know exactly who he is. He ended with the dolphins, right? He played with... No, he ended with the

Raiders. He was on the Dolphins, Bulls, Bill's Raiders. And I met him training out of Exos here in Arizona and he's like, let's go to a UFC fight. I was like, I've never been to UFC fight. He's like, let's go to this Conno McGregor fight. First, Connor McGregor, McNeady is. And I I went there and he's like, start watching videos on Connor. And I was like, this fucking guy,

there's a reason why he's made so much damn money. And it's got, that had to be like an incredible like golden goose for you guys for a while. But is there ever a point when you have like a guy like Connor McGregor and it's great for the UFC? But then he gets so baked where he almost calls the shots, which might hurt negotiations when it comes to him fighting in the UFC. He can kind of do whatever he wants. No, he's a smart dude. And, you know, he's actually been one of the easy.

easiest guys to deal with. Really? Yeah. Listen, Carmen Gregg would be perfect if he showed up everywhere on time. I mean, if he did that,

he'd literally be the perfect guy to work. He just doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's all part of his thing, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

But no, we have a great relationship and he's been great to work with. And, you know, the reality is, it doesn't have to be a superstar fighter. It can be one of our employees or whatever,

because it happened during the sale when we sold to endeavor. Once, you get to a certain level financially. You know, we had guys that work for us that had some points in the company. They retired. They're gone. They don't work anymore.

You know, as soon as the company sold, they were gone. And it's like whether you have Con or Greer. Look at John Jones. You know, there's a lot of talk, a lot of shit talk that we don't pay our fighters. John Jones hasn't fought in three years. Yeah. You know what I mean? How many people at John Jones age can just take three years off and say, eh,

maybe I'll come back, maybe I won't. 99% of people can't do. that. There's a lot. Henry Sehudo. Henry Sehudo won a title. I think he defended it once or twice and hasn't fought since. Why do you think they're so?

I mean, it's just part of the money. When the money comes along and when you're in a sport like this where you got to jump up every day and get punched in the face, you know, once the money comes in, Amanda Nunes, destroying people. I mean, out there knocking, you know, you know, she fights here and there. She's, you know, they all got plenty of money and they don't need to do it anymore. So it's just the nature of the business.

The pig gets better, dude. It's like the NFL. You get paid financially. A lot of guys like to get a little bit worse. But the spectrum of, yeah. sooner rather than... Yeah. In guys like the 1% of the NFL

and then there's the guys that are trying to grind it out on a day-to-day basis. Why do you think the UFC gets so much flack for not paying their fighters? Because I don't tell anybody what they get paid. I don't tell anybody what they get paid. And guess what? Neither do the fighters.

There's no gag order in place. These fighters can come on and say what the, exactly what they make. I just had a, I just had a situation recently. And I'll tell you who it was. It was Paul O'Costa. He's a fucking lunatic. He acts like a lunatic. And he came out publicly and kind of said what we, what we offered him. Yeah. It was the furthest fucking thing from the truth. Really? It wasn't true. And this was a while ago. This is the first time I've even talked about it. But it's just an example. See, these guys will say stuff like that because They know I won't talk about it publicly because I really don't give a shit.

You know, all these people that come out and say, oh, the UFC doesn't pay the fighters and they only pay this percentage of the fucking, this, that, and everything else, we've got an awful lot of people who sit out and, you know, don't. And he recently came out about an offer we made and it was the furthest thing from the truth. When you're sitting there and you're seeing guys like that say numbers that aren't real that are obviously way lower than you actually offer you. What makes you not bite your tongue?

Because there has got to be a level of being a human being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we do right by our guys, but what's the deal? Like, when you look at it, look at how long, I've been in business for 23 years. How many guys have left? I just did a new eight-fight deal with John Jones. Man, that's going to- Who was sitting out over money issues.

I just did a new eight-fight deal with Sugar Sean O'Malley. And list goes on and on. How many guys, the guys that leave are the guys that were okay with them leaving. Yeah. You know what I mean? I understand that. The guys who leave are the guys that we're okay with it.

You know, recently, the most recent that, that, and probably the only guy. I mean, I did deals with Tito Ortiz when we fucking hated each other. Chuck Liddell, who was the biggest star on the planet, we always got deals done. Brock Lesnar, we got deals done. Yeah. You never heard any of these people complaining about their money, right? Everybody wants more money. You guys want more money.

You guys aren't being paid enough. I guarantee you if we said here. Ornoy? Yeah. Can you hear me, my guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We want more money.

We do. Human nature. Everybody wants more money. And I don't feed into the bullshit. I don't feed into the... The Jake Paul stuff? Well, yeah. Jake Paul...

Well, that's something that's small, but it's like viral. It's like a viral thing. No, no, you're absolutely right. It lives in the world we live in. Yeah. He keeps playing that whole thing, you know, oh, we'll do right. We'll treat you guys.

How many guys have left and went with Jake Paul? Yeah. Right? How many guys went, yeah, let's go with Jake Paul and fucking... You know, he's going to pay us. Yeah. It's just, it's all bullshit. It's all this narrative that I don't play into.

You know, the guys who fight here know that they've been taken care of and, you know, and it's one of these systems where the guys who actually bring all the value are the ones who make all the money, you know. And the guys who don't, when you talk about, you know, they always talk about this, this pay disparity between. boxing in UF3, yeah, there's fucking like a handful of guys in boxing that make shit loads of money. The rest of the guys make nothing. And that's not the case. We've got 800 guys under contract. You know, if you're a lower level guy coming in, you work your way up.

But these kids are all making really good money. Who are some of the harder fighters to deal with? Who are some of the fighters that are tough to deal like when you are doing some of these negotiations? Like John Jones, he's been out of the game for three years over money stuff. He was allowed about it for a while. So you just got an eight-fight deal, like who are some guys who are tough to kind of... Yeah, it's not that John's difficult to deal with. It's more about when these guys hear some of these boxing numbers.

First of all, most of these boxing guys that you hear that make all this fucking money, they're all in lawsuits. Mike Tyson's in a lawsuit right now for a fight that he didn't get paid for him. Here in Wilder is probably about to be in a lawsuit here. Yeah, these guys all get in lawsuits because they never get paid. all these guys that I do deals with, they sign contracts. And this is a fact. Not only do I pay them what they're contracted to make,

I actually pay them more than they're contracted to make. What makes you pay them more than what they were contracted to make? What makes you want to pay these guys more if they have a contract? Like as a business, as an owner of a business, why would you sit there and go, I'm going to pay this guy more than his contract says? I would call it incentives and bonuses because we do these, these post-fight bonuses, if your fight was unfucking believable and you blew us away,

you know, there's usually four guys on the card to make $50,000 more. And the rest of the card, we throw them some more money too. So everybody on the card makes more money than they were actually contracted to make. That's a fact. There's no reason for me to think you're wrong. It's a fact. I literally feel like right now I'm sitting here and be like, I just agree with everything you say because I have no idea.

Now, if we were talking to mainstream media guys, I wouldn't have said one, fucking word of what I just said to you guys here. A good man for that and I appreciate that. I don't play these little fucking pussy games that they try to play with me. And that's what drives them crazy. And, you know, so they can write all the negative stories they want and put the headlines up there. I don't know if it gets some more traffic or what it does, but it's all bullshit at the end of the day. Yeah, and I feel like this whole, this whole game is my relationship.

This is my company. Who the fuck are you to tell me how to pay my people? Yeah. And if you don't like it, there's no buried entry. Go start your own MMA organization and pay them whatever you want. Many people have done it. Yeah. And it hasn't turned out too well for them.

You know, we've run a real business here. You've cornered that market. We run a real business. It's unreal. And I wish I knew. Something might happen with like Live Golf. You never know what they're doing across the pond. Yeah.

And you know what I'm saying? How a PGA was going in. It's Live, right? Live comes in and just starts throwing these crazy. Crazy numbers of people. If people out of the tour. That would be the only scenario. where you could see something.

Yeah. You have all. The other thing, though, you come out and you pay a guy, like, and I'm not going to act like I'm educated on this because I'm not. I don't know a lot about it. I've heard of it, but I don't know the ends and outs of it. But you take a guy, you guys, for instance, I'll use you guys an example. I come out and I pay you guys $350 million to do the same podcast, right?

once you get that kind of money it's fucking hard you know it's hard to get people incentivized to get out and actually fucking work and and to and to grind and to and to help build you guys are part of barstool sports and part of building them into you know a massive sports brand

what's the incentive there when you make that kind of money there's not a lot of incentive. Now, let's take it to another level. When you are a fighter who gets paid to get punched in the fucking face every day, you know, Connor McGregor is a perfect example. John Jones is a perfect example. Amanda Nunes is a perfect example.

Rhonda Rousey's a great example. I could go on and on for days about the people who've made massive money in this sport. You get to a point where you're like, okay, I achieved what I wanted to achieve you. Right, you got what you needed. Like the chip on the shoulder does windle. I became a world champion and have a shitload of money. What's next? Yeah.

So what do you think makes John Jones and McGregor come back and want to continue to fight when you are, when you do have all of that? Well, I think what happens is you get this level of success and this level of financial security where, I mean, you guys just said it five minutes ago. You get to call your own shots now. Yeah. I'm going to take three. years off. When I start to feel the itch again, I'll come back. Or I won't. You know, you have that financial freedom to do it. Or if I want to jump in and pick up a quick fucking $25, $30 million, I'll pop back in when I feel like it. When, you know. If you have the ability

to do that, yeah. It is just crazy to look like a guy like Connor. In like 2018, he's gone like one and four or whatever, whatever the numbers. It hasn't been like a great record. since he's got proper 12, he's got all these other businesses, he's killing, and he can make a, he can make a million dollars just going to some billionaire's birthday party for an hour. And you think, like, what makes you want to keep coming back to such a violent sport? The most violent sport there is. And that's a great point, too, because when you think about our sport, our fan base accepts losing more than other sports, too, because.

I wonder why that is. Because there's so many different ways to win and so many different ways to lose in this sport, you know. And you're actually, our fighters are looked at on more of like an Arturo Gotti type level. Like Arturo Gotti was losing these fights but kept signing these big HBO deals because everybody loved the way he fought and that he was such a dog and would go out and give it at everything he had. And that's kind of the, you know, you lose four or five in a row in boxing. In boxing, you're fucking done. You ain't making any more big money fights. but here the fan base

forgives losing because I mean similar with like Chandler Yeah Like Chandler's won I mean how many fights he had since he signed He's got like 500 He hasn't won all of them Perfect example exactly He goes out there like a Rottweiler

But he's out there fucking getting it Like after the last fight it's like he lost but he also won Yeah a weird way You know what I mean? Absolutely think about this so Every Saturday night I have to convince you guys To not go out

not go to dinner with your girl, not go to a movie, not do this, not do that. Stay home and watch fights. So when you do, you better have some holy shit moments or you're going to turn off your TV and be pissed off. Or forget the money, right? The fact that you stayed home on a Saturday night is what will piss you off first. And that's what that's where boxing started to go. Every time you stayed home on Saturday night, you know, they charged your fucking 80 to 100 bucks. And you saw these two multi-millionaires run around.

try not to fight each other so that they could win and go on to the next multi-million dollar fight. When you tune into a UFC from the first fight of the night to the main event, these fucking kids go, man.

They go. And you see the shit that you stayed home on Saturday night and paid fucking 80 bucks to see. Yeah, it's like when you, that Autostania guy, he just lost. It was an incredible fight.

But the fight before that when he was defending his belt, it was kind of like five rounds of like, what are we doing here? He's kind of just bouncing out and you do kind of play yourself like, man. People were getting pissed.

Yeah, people were getting mad. And almost got there on that last bite. But if I'm out of Sania, I'm also saying like, hey, fuck you guys, I won. It doesn't matter. And you can just play into that. I feel like it's a no lose when it comes to UFC. Whether it's so true.

It's entertaining or it's not entertaining. It's like, if it's not entertaining, we'd just say, fuck you, then it's like, hey, people are like, no, fuck you, we're going to watch you lose next time. Well, the difference is if you saw the Israel, out of Sanya fight and you were unhappy with it, there were four more fights on the undercard

that you fucking loved. Yeah. That's the difference. And with boxing, you wouldn't even show up for the undercard. You don't even pay attention to them. Everybody just shows up

for the main event. Yeah. And if the main event sucks, the entire card was judged by the main event. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. That's a good point.

When you have all these other endeavors and you introduce the Power Slap League, you look at it, and I'm thinking to myself, what the fuck are these guys doing? This is a wild, wild. And then it's framed as like a martial art show, right? Like, it's,

what entice you? you. It's not framed as a martial arts show. It's framed as a fight. And then people will say, it's an interesting fight. How the hell is this a fight? Yeah. Let me tell you something. It's entertaining as hell. If you can get viciously fucking knocked out, it's a fight.

It doesn't matter if it's with a slap, a punch, an elbow, a knee, or a head kick. You were just in a fight. And you just introduced the most disrespectful thing you can do during a fight. I guarantee you guys have known people like this, maybe, maybe not. I've known plenty of my day. I've known some guys who are bad dudes, you know, in the ring and out in the street, and they got to a point where they didn't hit anybody anymore, they would slap them because, you know. They were that vicious. They were wrecking people punching them, so they would just

slap guys and knock them out. So in 2017, I started watching some of the slap stuff that was coming up on the internet. The Russian bear or something like that. Was that the guy? What's his name? Yeah. He was, you watch that because you have your buddies. You'd be sitting in the sauna and you'd be like, hey, watch this fucking Russian cat. And he was like, the Russian bear. Bush and Barron, it's just like this hairy ass, he's got a fur coat on with the shirt off, and he is just disintegrating dudes. Yes, disintegrating cats.

Exactly. So it's 2017, you start seeing these videos on YouTube. Exactly. And your mind goes to what? Fascinated by this, right? So I start taking a deeper dive and looking into it, and I'm looking at the numbers that it's pulling on YouTube. And I'm like, 350 million views, that's fucking crazy.

Dollar Signs in the Eye. Fucking Justin Bieber music video, you know what I mean? I'm like, this is not. So I, the guy that was putting on those events from Russia, I met him in L.A. one day. I flew out to L.A. to meet him. Started talking to him. The life is incredible. Fascinating.

So I said, I think I'm going to fucking do this. So I start getting into it and COVID hits. So I got to deal with the UFC and, you know, getting that going during COVID. And then we get through COVID and I start getting into it again. and let me just put it to you this way. I start this thing. First of all, we get a sanctioned by the Navas State Athletic Commission to turn it into a sport.

I'm looking for some of the guys who are considered the best out there so that we can start building rankings and do the first title fights. So we did welterweight, middle weight, light, heavyweight, and heavyweight. Four easy. You know, everybody can follow what everybody understands those weight classes. And we put an event together last March, just to kind of see it. So it's my first time ever seeing it live in person.

Oh, you put an event together and you haven't even seen it live yet. Exactly. Okay. Yeah, we put on an event to. There's a whole lot you're saying right now. We need to unpack, but I need to, this is incredible. I'm fucking with the production. I want to see how to, you know, how should the lighting be?

How should this be? You know, we're starting to build what is going to eventually become the sport. And we put on the first event. Holy fucking shit, man. As these guys start slapping each other, the sound, fucking knockouts, everything about it is just what I expected, but even more, you know what I mean? A wild thought process for entertainment. Bro, dudes are just like laying on the ground.

And then they pick them up, like, you good? Yeah, let's get him back up there. Let's get him back up. You're going to do is hold this fucking pool. It is so incredibly entertaining. Yeah. Okay, so there's a couple things you did. First off, we need to go to COVID in a second because I thought you handled when sports were dead.

You kept sports alive. We'll go to that in a second. You go, you meet this guy in Russia. Or sorry, in L.A. He's from Russia. You sit there and you have this conversation. I love the fact that you're putting people together to slap each other, right? Simple terms.

Yeah, well, I asked him how it got started. What did you do? Where did you find these guys and all this stuff? just kind of doing some homework on it. Yeah. Jumped on the, I mean. You jumped on a little gold mine for sure. Yeah, because it's like you get $350 million,

but it's so easily and short and consume. Like you can just watch a slap. And it's just the brain, the way everybody's brain is now. Yeah, it's going to be a younger generation. Yeah, like, before I even need to see a fight, it's like, hey, I'm jumping on this because you see kind of the big picture of it. Everything that's being said negatively. First of all, let's start with this.

Everything that's negative that's being said about it is an attack on me. It's me that these guys are attacking. It's not the actual slapping. The media, it's all about me, okay? They want to, they want to fuck me. That's why they're saying what they're saying about slap. Because this shit was going on. This shit's been on the internet since 17 is when I first saw it.

Yeah, but it's also in Russia. There's 350 million views, but I'm the only fucking guy that's seen it. You know what I mean? There's no stories written. There's no, oh my God, this is horrible. How's this on social media? Children are watching this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

This has been going on since fucking, well, I noticed it in 17. It could have been before that for all I know. But now it's a fucking, you know, it's a, it's horrible and it's a tragedy and it needs to go away. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Get the fuck out of here. So let's start there, right? So we go, let me tell you this one real quick.

So I started a power slap TikTok two and a half weeks ago. as of two days ago it has uh hey lenae see how many followers it has now but it had there's an m attached 1.7 million followers it was 1.8 never mind it's 1.8 yesterday it was 1.7 days ago was 1.7 2 days ago was 1.7 when we first opened it it was growing 10,000 followers an hour yeah then it went to 100 000 every two days now we're at 100 000 every two days it grows okay did 688 million views in two and a half weeks. Yeah. Instagram, we have almost 400,000 followers.

166 million in two and a half weeks. And I could keep going on and on with the international and all this other shit. So you fucking nailed it right on the head. The younger generation, it's fast, it's easy to consume. It's like, holy shit, you know, and they're eating it. And you can watch the same slap multiple times because you're like, you want to see the slap, you want to see the guy. motion. Look at this referee. They're helping them back up.

Oh, my gosh. Facial reactions. Yes. It's. It is. You're not just going to watch one slap one time. That's a five slapper. It's eating a chip from a bag. You're not going to have one. You're going to have four or five boys right there. So even more fascinating. So you look at this thing and you look at it on a, you know, and all the media is like, oh, this thing's a flop. It's fucking this, that.

They have fucking no idea what they're talking about, number one. I laugh when I read their story. And here's the truth. If the media says something's bad and it's good and it should go away, you've got a fucking home run. You know it's going to be successful. Right. Because these guys know jack shit about anything, right? And then you look at the television, right?

Linear television is dying on the vine, right? TBS has been awesome with us. It's been great for us. So we're the only thing coming out of AEW wrestling. AEDW wrestling pulls a great number and everything they tried just dumps right off into the best. They tried family guy, American dad, Bob's Burgers, Young Sheldon, all these different shows that haven't worked. We go in there and, you know, much older demo and everything else, we held 50% of AEW's audience. No shit. And every Wednesday night, we're number two on all of cable

with men behind the NBA. The fucking thing is three weeks, three weeks old. Three weeks old, 21 days. So even on, bro, you're thinking, he's sitting there in 2017, like, no one's doing this? Somebody make a move on this. Yeah. It's, it's, yeah, it's phenomenal. So, over the, wait to you see what I do in the next five weeks with power slap and where this goes. So after the first season here that we've done, the other thing that's really good for us that, you know, when you do a reality show, like the one that we have, we know every episode gets better. And I haven't seen episode seven yet, but Craig Pelagian, my partner, the producer, he does tons of television.

He says, episode seven is the best TV show he's seen in two years. Really? Yeah. So, you know, we know what we have in the can already. So it's good to know that. But watch what happens with this thing over the next five weeks. Yeah. So you're okay.

You're across the pond. You're this guy from Russia. You bring it to Nevada. You get it all bundled up where you're allowed to sell it, allowed to do it in the state of Nevada. Then the next thing you say is we now we go and find talent. What town? What are you talking? You're going like in the back areas and like the backyards like this and be like, you guys,

how much do you weigh? All right, lightweight. All right, heavy weight. How are you finding these cats? Let me tell you how good you guys are. You guys are so fucking good. It's almost like this show is like scripted. This is fucking crazy.

Oh, we have earpieces. You don't see you. So my next thing I was going to say to you is we go into this thing. We start looking for the talent. We find the guys that, you know, like I said, I didn't just start this. This has been around since 16, 17 or earlier, for all I know. But I started to notice it in 17. And so there's guys out there.

So we go out and there's this guy who had a lead. out in the Midwest and, you know, had a good grip. We hired him. He came in as a consultant, and he walked us through who some of the best guys, you know, and the country are. We put it together. We're coming up on episode four on TBS tomorrow night on TBS is episode four. And we've already got like 930 people that have mailed in and said,

yeah, I'm a professional slapper and I want to be in the next season. So now what we're going to do is we're going to put together at the Performance Institute, the UFC Performance Institute, I'm going to put together a combine where these guys come in. Yeah. These guys come in. What are the, what are the exercise? Like, what are the measures?

The only thing you need is that little punching bag that comes down and you punch it and you see how much power. Measure their hand. Put a palm on it. You got to measure the hand. There's actually, you'll see it. If you watch this season of the show, the coach is training the fighters. And, you know, they have a power cube where they can test their force, you know,

how much force per square inch they're slapping with. and neck strength and all these different things that go into. I didn't think about the neck. Being a good slap. I'm not thinking about the neck. Yeah, you got to have the neck strength. You got to have a chin. Yeah.

And you got to win the fucking coin toss. The coin toss, the coin toss. The coin toss, that comes with you going to first and the back. You got to win. So what's the combine? Like, what does the combine help you do other than, like, put guys in the system? Like, does it ever go to a little team format? Yeah, the other thing that we're going to have is we're going to bring in these guys that are

going to be coaches. And as guys come through. the Performance Institute, they're going to train these guys on, because there are rules on flinching, you know, clubbing where you're hitting with this part of the hand instead of the slap. You can't move your feet. Your feet have to stay. So there's a lot of different rules that guys have to, you know, train. And the other big thing is we have to help get the commission trained.

Like when you become a referee for boxing, there's a lot of, you know, you go to these gyms, these local gyms and guys are sparring. you actually get in there and move around with the guys while they're sparring. And if you see them tying up, you break them apart, and you get in there and work. And a lot of the MMA referees do the same thing. So the refs need reps, you know, to be able to do this. So I'm actually going to put on a,

we got a, our first live fight is going to be in March. I'm actually going to do a fight the Wednesday before the fight. I'm going to do another fight to get the refs, some reps and get them working. But you're about to have like a world ranking system with all these people who want to do this Like could be the most massive That's what's going to happen The barrier of the entries is like low

Like do you have a big hand? Do you have a chin? Do you feel like you're tough? Well, the other thing is you feel like you're tough I mean. Hey, speed square, you can't flinch, hold on to that pole I can do it. Pray to God you just don't get

Yeah. Pray to God its tails when you call tails. Yeah. Well, you know what's going to happen. What's going to happen is the same thing that happened with MMA is once there's fucking real money involved in this, you know, and let me address that too. There were, you know, my buddies in the media

saying, oh my God, these guys were only getting paid fucking this. We invested fucking $10 million. Being the Fritita brothers into this thing to fucking launch this thing. We invested 10 million of our own money to do this thing, much like, you know, the UFC when we started the UFC.

This is a startup like any other fucking startup business. And these guys that are in this first season are the pioneers, much like the guys who played baseball in the early days and the NFL and the UFC, you know. So once we get this thing, but there's going to be real money involved,

you'll be surprised who you see. I bet you start seeing NFL players like the guys that want to box and get into, you know, when you talk about... Talk about guys who can fucking have the power and the velocity to slap and the neck strength and the chance. You think of a lot of NFL players.

That could be a part of this. You're probably going to end up getting celebrities who want to be a part of this. And who knows, but... Is celebrities that want to slap? the shit out of each other. 100%. Like they're pissed off

and we'll settle it. Well, in the beginning we'll probably get like the Danny Bonaducci's and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah. These guys don't even know

the fuck Danny Bonadoo. He said he had twice but I had no idea you're talking about. I was like, yeah, for sure. What's the next question I got to ask here? That's hilarious.

Dude. Hey, I just, you know how fucking old I am now these guys don't know who Danny Bottoducci is. Who's Danny Bottoducci? He was a celebrity back of the day when I was, you know who he is?

My dad would be so pissed off. Yeah. So he was on a show. You go ahead and get me, boys. Partridge family. And then he ended up, you know, he became a fucking lunatic. He started doing all this boxing, like celebrity boxing, and he has a radio show.

He had at the time, I think, in Philly or something. But, yeah, he was a wild man from the 80s. Dude. Yeah, okay, I've been, I've learned now. I've absolutely learned. Here's a business question. Oh, that's him right there. When you know. That's the anybody.

Business question? Yeah, I want to ask a business question. but since now that you're investing $10 million and going into the power slap, what are some things that you have learned over the course of the years because you did the startup with the UFC acquired that? What are some of the things you can fast track now knowing I won't make that same mistake again as far as growing the sport now that you have power slap? Hey, that's a great question, dude.

Well, the difference is that now because of the UFC and what I've done with the UFC, it's much easier to go to get television deals or distribution deals, sponsors, the list goes on and on. I mean, we didn't have real sponsors in the UFC until like 2006, five, six. Yeah. You know, if you look at the first season

of the ultimate fighter, fucking mad as blue. Blue, there's nothing on it. Yeah. You know, we had no sponsor. Nobody wanted to sponsor the first season of the ultimate fighter. We have sponsors on this first season

of Power Slap. So, you know, because of the success that I've had with the UFC, it's a lot easier to get things like that done than it was back. in 2001. Right, because I would assume your mind, like, trying to figure out how you're going to build the UFC, your mind was probably a lot more cluttered on which action steps to take.

I know the rights. Now, obviously, you have the value that can, like, oh, we know how we're going to point of this thing. But I'm sure your clarity now on, like, this is the direct approach we're going to be taking in, you know, X, Y, and Z these areas as like a business guy, entrepreneur, all of that stuff that you've built over the years. 100%. I mean, yeah, it's, it's, you know, I saw something that was a negative

story written about me a couple weeks ago where they talked to an old employee and the old employee and I know who it was too was saying yeah ari is convinced that Dana has the secret formula to run the UFC yeah motherfucker I absolutely positively have the secret formula to run the UFC I look at all the other promoters and I look at every single thing that they do wrong and I go why would they still do that if you watch what we did why would you still why are they doing that Why are they doing this? And you're going to do the same thing with Slab. Yeah.

Same thing. You have to run it like a business. You have to run this thing like a business. Hey, we probably got like two more questions. He's got a boogie soon. I know you. I know I saw him. I saw him.

Yeah, they're giving. They're given. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know you had one.

You know he does well. He's flying probably out of Scottsdale, you know. That's a little gold stream piece. Yeah. Back to Vegas. I want to bring back to Chandler McGregor real quick. Yeah. Two questions.

When is... Get three again, because I have one more. You have one more? When is that a fight going to happen. When? When? And then two, how do you see it going? So we literally don't have any of that in place yet.

Love that. We're going to get out here and film these guys doing, you know, doing the show. And then we'll figure out when and where and all that stuff. Because this is one of those... I was talking about this today. This is one of those fights. This could be Madison Square Garden. This could be Dallas, Texas Stadium.

This could be, you know, very... Vegas in, you know, Raider Stadium or a T-Mobile. Oh, Raider Stadium. You know what I mean? We know Mike wants to fight in Vegas. That's like his, he's never fought in Vegas. Yeah. So we're just.

We could put together, you know, you look at the main event with these two, and then we could put together a bad ass card underneath it, that we could do this at any arena or any stadium. So we got to figure that out. We're kind of still playing with that. And how do I think it goes? Yeah. I know exactly how it goes.

This fight is absolute and pure fucking violence. From the minute the bell rings, until the fight is over. You know, stylistically, when you match these two up, there's no way this fight sucks. It's incredible. Yeah. It's incredible.

Who wins? That I have no idea. Yeah, it will be electric. Who hits that button first? I would assume it'll be some interesting bumps along the way with getting the fight exactly down. I can sit here just being a fan, like, watching McGregor over the years, like trying to hold some of these situations hostage until he gets

whatever he wants. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you probably get a whole lot on it. You know, he doesn't really do that. It might appear like he does that. You know, Connor, Connor, you know, I always hate to compare anybody to Ali, but I always compare him to Ali because he's so good at playing the mental game. He really is. With, with opponents and stuff like that. But as far as us as a business, I mean, I look at Connor as a great partner. He, he, he's, He's not one of those guys. Believe me, I've dealt with some bad guys in the past that will do dirty shit to try to hold you up for more money and stuff like that.

He's not that guy. Connor's not that guy. You have a story that you can share about some guys who would do some dirty? Tito Ortiz. Tito Ortiz was the worst with that. He was the worst. With like almost getting to the finish line and then like. Yeah, you'd get there.

You'd have a deal with him. You start going and he'd call you three days before the fight and say, I want more money. Three days before the fight? Yeah, that isn't how this works. Yeah, Tito did some bad shit in his day. That's why he and I, you know, had the relationship that we had. And, you know, it's why I don't have a relationship with him today. Yeah.

You know, at the time when the company was the most vulnerable, Peter Ortiz was the worst to deal with. Damn, man. What was the one question you wanted to ask? I was just going to say, like, what would you tell your young self back when you started the UFC being where you're at now? Or what advice or just anything that you would tell your younger self? I don't know, man. When I was younger, I was a savage. I just, I, I believed in this thing from day one.

I stayed the course. I didn't listen to all the outside noise. It's like right now, the exact same thing was slap. You know what I mean? These people are completely irrelevant. The noise that's going on out there, you don't listen to it. You know what's right. You know what you want to do.

You know how you want to build your business. And you stay the course that you know is right for the company. You don't listen to any of this outside bullshit. And I think that's the hardest part. for people who, no matter what line of work you're in, to drown out that negativity and not let it influence you or listen to it. If anything, let it just fuel you to get out there and shove it up their ass and prove to them all that they were wrong.

I mean, that's the only reason you should ever listen to it is for fuel to get out and win. But all this stuff, when you listen to the media, you're listening to people who have never fucking accomplished anything. ever. They've never built a business. Nobody's ever depended on them for a paycheck. They're giving you their opinion. And what the fuck does their opinion matter? It doesn't matter. It means shit. You know what I mean? They're out there working just like you. They have to sell their stories. Their story has to, people have to read it. So they have to figure out ways to make people try to read their fucking story. This is exactly why anybody who's mainstream or doing big things would

rather come do this, a podcast like this, with guys like you. this has been a great fucking interview. I don't know how long it's lasted, but it felt like five fucking minutes. This is where it's all headed. People would rather come down and sit down with people like you than talk to these fucking know nothing,

do nothing, never accomplished nothing. Motherfuckers. I love it. We appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you for taking time out of your day. We knew you had like a schedule and it was crazy.

You got to buggy back to Vegas. Thank you so much for taking the time out for us. I love it. Congrats on all your success, man. That's good shit. This is awesome. Congrats. Hey, guys, it's us.

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