Bussin' With The Boys - Dan Lanning On Oregon’s Win Over Penn State + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan: “The Chiefs Are Back”

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Recorded: September 29th 2025 | Taylor Lewan and Will Compton are back for another football recap, breaking down Week 5 of the College Football season and Week 4 of the NFL. In CFB, the Boys cover Virginia’s shocking upset over Florida State, Alabama’s big win over Georgia, Vanderbilt and Diego Pavia proving they’re legit, Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss’ massive victory over LSU, Tennessee surviving against Mississippi State, and more from a loaded weekend. Then it’s on to the NFL — from the Tennessee Titans’ tough 0-4 start, the Steelers dominating the Vikings, and the Giants’ new success with Jaxson Dart and Cam Skattebo, to the Eagles moving to 4-0, the Lions proving they’re for real, and the Chiefs looking like they’re back. To close out the show, Oregon head coach Dan Lanning hops on the show to recap Oregon’s double-OT win at Penn State. He breaks down the atmosphere, his viral postgame moments, and what’s ahead for the Ducks the rest of the season. Big hugs, tiny kisses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I almost had a 10-leger hit. Almost. Man, you are so close. I know, dude. There's a fun thing we do at Bustle with the boys, whether it's Saturday, Sunday, Thursday, Monday, whenever there's a football game on, boys just start putting in the group

chat, you know, Fan duel. I got the parlay I got this parlay I don't even look at the parlays I just hit them and I I put on whatever on it responsibly responsibly but I I just love to be in the action with my dogs yeah absolutely and Will had a 10-leger college football everything was going according to plan literally everything ever until the dogs until it wasn't I know and I could have should have I don't know cashed out there's a part where I should have cashed out and honestly I was thinking I should hit this cash out. There's no way Georgia's going to get this ball back and move the ball down and score

and take the lead. But I held it because I say it's like, hey, if we want Bama to win, maybe I have to stay on this parlay. Right. If I get out, do all of a sudden Georgia wins and then I'm kicking myself both ways? Yep. Because I want to cash out just so I can be like, I want to cash out and just vibes because it's not like I'm going to sit there and be hype in G's face if Georgia comes back

and wins. But I can cash out and just go all in on like. root for Bama to win this game. But if Georgia happened to win and I cashed out, I'd like, oh, fuck, this is all bad. See, for me, I was kind of, I wanted you to have his time. He had his headphones in. He was there, but he really wasn't there. He was so focused on the game while watching Oregon and Penn State.

But I'm sitting next to JP. And like, towards the end of that game, I keep flashing him over the Fandle like, hey, hey, this old 10-Legger, I kind of need Georgia. I need Georgia to come back in a big way. You'd say it a little loud. I'd say it a little loud. Hey, hey, hey, hey, like, look over it. Because Garrett's like verbally assaulting people on the TV.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely murdering. Lucky they were on the other side of the TV. No doubt. He watched the game a lot of them differently. I'm on their bumper. But, yeah, Will had himself an L5S1's seize up during the game. So he went from the front row to the back row.

And I keep like getting a little kink in my neck looking back at him being like, hey, do we cash out of this thing? Because it is his parlay. So when I get, there's nine to ten legs. Like I'm kind of letting somebody else drive here. And he goes, I'm staying. I thought, okay, we're staying then. The back.

We go. Last words. Last words. get nervous when Will move to the back because you were next to me all game and then when you went to the back I was like you might get your bro because I had to like stand like my back

spasming again yeah you know I sit on soft yeah I tell you what I know you heard that fart though which one the whole streamed buddy he's smoking out the whole place apparently wasn't even me bro allegedly

fart gate fart gate was happening proven can we get a big round of applause for everybody on the bus being victorious in college football this week. Their teams going victorious. Gee, we just talked about Alabama, Mitch, Ohio State won in your, I guess, or Ohio State fit.

Baylor, Big win, Tennessee with an overtime win, Gank Cox, just Beamer Ball. What was that two defensive touchdowns? Back to back. Back to back. Just the offense sitting on the sideline being like, yeah, I guess we're just going to win this game no matter what. And then Clump, he is a, he's a Tennessee fan. He's a state of Tennessee fan. Tennessee Volunteers win.

Vanderbilt blows out Utah State got a little hairy in the first half, second half they blew it off. I think too, a big takeaway from the weekend is like you watch both the Big Ten and the heavyweight fights between the Big Ten, the SEC, it's like the conference plays wide open. Yeah.

You said to watch Oregon Penn State, both good football teams, but still it's like nobody, it wasn't lopsided. You look at Illinois, take care of USC. And by the way, Illinois, that game shouldn't, that game was closer than what it should have been. Illinois should have won. maybe by a couple scores

that they were taking care of the football. But you look at how everything's went down. Alabama is now just, they're fully back into the full, taking down Georgia. Mississippi State giving Tennessee a run for their money. Like everything is wide open. Everything's wide open.

I agree with almost everything you said, except for the Oregon Penn State game. I know it went to double overtime, but I felt like that game was controlled. 99.9% of the game was controlled by the Ducks. Like they just found, like they were moving the ball much better they're converting more often um they seem very poised at penn state and the the sky can view every time it came in a commercial and you just see

that sea of white and that white out going on at nighttime it is got to be the most intense environment probably all of college football yeah got got to be if not one what two to tennessee maybe because tennessee gets allowed too but i've only been there for like a noon three o'clock game and so yeah I guess I view it more from the lens of when I look at the Husker schedule. And Penn State and USC on there both be able. Both those are both winnable games. Because I, yeah, if there are like two big dog players, Oregon going into Penn State on a night game whiteout and getting that W. W with the young football team, like that speaks volumes.

And then also Ohio State going out to Washington and take care of business against them. Because that quarterback was like, the Washington's quarterback has been like number one on like all the charts that come out, big 10 play quarterback. Running back is really good too. supposed to be a stud. Ohio State's defense is for real. And in the first half, it might have been the first half in the first half

in the first drive of the second half for Washington. They were in the red zone three times. It only came away with six points. They had two field goals. Yeah. And then one was either blocked

or missed or something like that. So it was a lot closer. They ended up pulling away in the end with Jeremiah Smith, dude, running verts on everybody, him having a little over, giving the ball. It literally got the ball at the line of scrimmage

and just ran it for 25 yards, no problem. Like, that kid is extremely special. Ohio State's legit, dude. That's a legit ball club. Patricia's doing a great job. Ryan Day is doing a good job keeping his boys all dialed in. So it's gonna be a fun one that third week in November, man.

That'll be a fun game for sure. Let's talk about, was it Friday night, Virginia, FSU, double over, double overtime? Yeah. Fastest rush the field of all time. Like, have we seen an injury report on that wide receiver yet? It sounds like they all made it out. He's cleared.

He's cleared to play. He made it out. But when that happened, I was legitimately worried because again you'll see like these mosh pits and everything that happened to these concerts where people die and when they storm the field yeah yeah astro world i saw those videos and when i see that storming happen i'm like they're not even on their feet and you know you know know some of these like students are getting a little rowdy and they there's nothing you know throw a little bow there's a lot of people maybe no one's gonna see if i throw a little bow in this

kid's chin real quick so you never know you never know what's gonna happen got the helmet on that chin's exposed but he talked to as a guy who's been in a lot of football fights I'm telling you, it's the crank the face mask, and you got a lot of exposure in that throat area, a lot of exposure. Man, I tell you, I hate the fake tough guy. This when these fans are on the field, they got their phone out and they're like flipping off the players and quarterback, knowing like nothing's really going to happen.

Lagerie Bluntz out there, you don't find out what happens. Yeah, we need some Lagare Blunts back in this game. We need some Blunts back in the game is what we need, dude. Good composure, though. Yeah, yeah. Lasanos. Mufossa. Yeah.

It was Mufasa and the water buffalo. Man, I thought that kid was done for. I thought that kid was done. I'm going to get. Now, there was an interesting situation that game, Devil overtime, Virginia scores, and the coach sends out the PAT. Go out there, not knowing in the second overtime,

you've got to go for two. The refs sit back and they go, hey, it seems like it's just a little bit of a mix-up. You guys go ahead and come back out, and they'll put that. Obviously, they have the field goal, but Norville is over on the other side, freaking out because...

Losing his mind, which you should be. If you don't know the rules, there should be a penalty for not knowing the rules. And they just reset the game clock. They had of one of those. Hey, GameClock, put it back up, no problem. So is there an issue with Virginia

and their head coach not understanding overtime rules? Will? Yeah, he should have been losing his mind. It should have been a penalty. It should have been something. I don't know what like the rule book says, but also I do want to give a shout out

and hats off to the ACC conference for allowing people to listen in to the reviews. That's the one thing I got to enjoy while I'm sitting there on Friday where you're like in the war room, you're in the headset with the referees breaking down when they're reviewing calls. And they're all like making sure,

all right, are we all aligned that this is what we see. Everybody, yep, yep, yep. All right, and then they go out there and make the call and everything else. That was cool. I would love to see that with every conference. Another shout out to the ACCC.

I don't know how good the conference actually is compared to other conference play, but it might be the most open conference in college football right now. Dude, I think they're all pretty open. Like Big Ten, you got Ohio State and Oregon. Like, you know, until something happens there, what? I mean, Michigan beat Ohio State four years in a row.

And we got a very favorable schedule up until Ohio State. Okay. Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon at the top of the Big Ten. But I feel like every conference is pretty wide open. Even the Big 12, dude. Wide. Big 12, ACC, SEC. Like, teams are beatable, man.

We got a huge one coming up this weekend with Vandy and, uh, Van de Alabama. Yeah, man. Like the way, Bama and hats off to the staff. Like, we talk about the Bama game per a second, Bama, Georgia. But hats off to that staff. It's like, you know, we're sitting there watching the game. Number one, by the way, I know Hubbard had the effort plays, number 18. that backer for Bama, that's a good

ball player. That's a great ball player. But what I loved about Bama is when something would happen, the coaches like kind of like running onto the field telling their guys, fuck that, forget about that play. Like a double move that eight or number one for Georgia hit and Georgia ends up scoring.

Coaches immediately running on field, come back here like the coordinator, head coach are saying that's on us, that's on us, that's on me. You love to see that rallying effort. You could tell us a full team effort coming into Georgia. You're like, we're going to win this game. We're going to get hit in the mouth a couple times.

There's going to be a couple moments of adversity. The coaching staff, the way that they've bounced back since week one, I think it speaks volumes for that football team because Bama's fucking tough. They're back in the fold. Everybody thought they were dead, myself included. Massive red flagged. They're one and five in the last six true road games. Can they actually go in and beat the Georgia Bulldogs?

They controlled the clock. They kind of did what they needed to do to win that game. And I just, I feel like watching the staff, too, like in any bad moment, DeBoer and the whole staff is out there. the field come back to the sideline just minimizing any damage possible not staying in there be like fuck it truly was that our next play yeah yeah yeah yeah it's really cool too that i mean it just shows how much of joes we all are at this point because we get after week one after florida state and we sit there and we're like you know there's boosters talking about kids are out till two a m getting

uber eats maybe girls are ripping around those types of things it seems like they gave them a little bit of a leash they've taken a mile as opposed to the nick sabin era where like anything you messed up on were critique for endlessly. And so we sat there after week one, you're in the shitter. We're thinking to ourselves, the Crimson Tides are probably dead. Fast forward four weeks, essentially a month later, and we're like, my God, they are. They could probably be, they're probably the front row of the SEC, besides Banderbilt. Which is crazy, which is crazy, but.

Yeah. I mean, Commissioner said it on the locker room this Wednesday. maybe that loss early helps you figure out your weak points. The course correct. Course correction, you know. We locked in. We had to give his time to throw. We did and penalties were a minimum.

So discipline ball. Just going from Bama's dead. They're probably the front run of the SEC right now. It's like, love to overreact. But also, I mean, you said, a lot can happen in four weeks. Yeah, but like Clempe just said Oklahoma, like, Mateer, he's got hand surgery. He's out three to four to six weeks.

LSU But let's see the team rally Like Oklahoma's still undefeated Vandy's undefeated Missouri Missouri Alabama Just went to Georgia

Who had the longest Home win streak In college football And put on And we're never down In the entire game That's that's impressive Where you go yeah

I mean that seems like The team to beat now In the SEC Obviously we can get another month Right another month goes by Another overreaction happens But if I'm gonna react on today After I overreacted

On Alabama a month ago I'm saying they're going Yeah That's the top team in the SEC right now. Fair point. Fair point. Virginia might be the best team in the country. Yeah, if we're going to over-of-eat, Virginia might be the greatest team in the country.

That might be the hardest stadium to play in. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Another Clemson assistant coach. Gee, while we still have you on the mic, you do have a big game coming up this week, Vanderbilt. Kate McConnell Hate Week number two. Yeah, Kate McConnell hate week. He's 1-0 in hate weeks, the bustle with the boys. He is.

Diego Pavia, 400 yards. account it for six touchdowns. How are we feeling? Obviously, this one's going to be personal. I feel like it's going to be one of those. You let them do what they're going to do on the offensive side. And we do what we did against Georgia. As long as we take care of business when we have the ball,

it should be business as usual. Bro, you guys, Bama 2 just third down. You guys are third down play. Yeah, yeah. Pretty incredible. Compared to weeks past. Yeah. And so that's going to be, that was the,

tell last year against Vandy is they converted on third down kept us on the field we got to flip the script yeah Ty Simpson I mean you have to give him a lot of credit Will brought this up quite a bit the fundamentals keeps the ball high keeps the ball up here

that's where you want it yeah yeah he's got his feet well poise in the pocket keeps the ball up here yeah and delivers a strike hey he has it uptight will get pulled but he doesn't have that lapse of like that long release Great fundamentals. Just keeps it forward.

Great technique. It keeps it moving forward. Just like that. Gotta love that. It's a good ball player. Good ball player. Strong ball player. I text Cade when the game day thing got announced.

I was like, bro, game day? That's so sick. He was like, yeah. If you make it down there, make sure you stay the whole time. We tend to clear them out these days. You know, you know, Vanie's feeling confident, man. Vandy's feeling, as they should be, they are undefeated. They've been putting up a shitload of points.

Yeah, possibly the team to beat in the SEC. Where is Pavia? Where is Pavia in the highs? on a fan door right now. Do we know? Pulling it up now. Because he's getting 400 yards, six touchdowns. I mean, some battle.

They got a next, they got a good stretch of games coming up, though. Yeah. Good thing. They host LSU. Eighth right now? I thought Justice Hayes was eighth. Zoom in on it? No, he is not.

Oof. Justice Hayes isn't even. Scroll up. Scroll up. Who's at the top? It's amazing what a biweek will do. Dante, More Oregon.

He had a good game out there in Happy Valley. He had a nice game. Dye Simpson. High and tight. A crazy. Crazy Bama stat that I think Josh Pate shared. That was the first game of the Kalin-Divore era where they had less penalties than the other team. Oh, good for them.

Yeah. Really turning it around. Yeah. Need it this week. Because the Crimson's Tide, they're going to be fired up. They're going to want that revenge. Sometimes it doesn't go your way a little bit, you start getting a little pushy, little shovey. So I'm glad it's at home.

I'll say that. Yeah. Would you be more, you'd be more nervous? Vanderbilt's selling them out now. They're selling out that stadium now. Might be under construction. You walk around Saturday mornings, bro. People rep in the Vandy gear.

Traffic now. Yeah. Yeah. That is true. They got jerseys in the stands. You know, the one day of the week that there'd be no traffic in Nashville is all like on the weekends on Saturday. Maybe at the first part of Sunday. Yeah.

But now it's busy. People love the Vandy football around here. Yeah. for a ticket last week. Yeah. The last time Vandy was 5-0 was, I think, 2008, and they finished the year 7-5.

So that's the history they're trying to correct right now. Yeah. God. Tell what? Coach Lee, man. He's good. Great coach.

Lane Kiffin. Got it done. He beat LSU, but he did not cover. If you're old-miss, you take that as a loss, will? Yeah, I think if you're all-miss, he kind of has to take the accountability at some point. He told the world take the over.

Right. So he has to take some accountability. You went on the show. Looked me in the face instead of LSU's offense is fraud. You were right about that. But he said, I'm taking the over because Lane Kevin took it. So I took it. Yeah.

And here we go. Once he tweeted the reply, take the over, it's like, okay, like, don't even think, don't over think, don't even think about it. Just take the over. Yeah. So he let a lot of people down. He did. He must be a man of his word.

Supposed to be. And again, LSU's been on the fraud list for your boy. It seems like it started to finally come together. Witt Weeks got a little nervous, started throwing up right in front of his future father-in-law. Yeah, I saw that. He just started puking? It looked like you tried to catch a mouthpiece or something that got a handful of his own vomit. It's like, buddy, let that hit the ground.

You're going to put that mouthpiece back in your mouth? When you know, you know that his hand just smells like shit now because of all the throw-up that he just got all over. Yeah. I mean, pre-game meal. Pre-game meal is tough to settle on game day, man. Get the jitters out. Yeah. Lane probably had him over, not before.

Yeah, yeah, Classic wedding crashes move Eye droppers in the glass Everyone sat down for prayer Lane looked over Had a couple of heavy weeks Great to have you over Should we bow our head in prayer?

Got his ass That was big That was big for Lane Have you all seen or like been watching Their quarterback Ole Miss Trinidad Chamblis? Stud D2 national

He was a D2 player Had no offers Went to Ferris State D2 National Champion transferred to an SEC school and is now like top three in the highs been voting like rush for 300 or through for 300 yards and rush for 100 I think damn near and like back to back games like he's a stud and he was the backup at the start of the season yeah starter gets hurt he's been in there I don't know if this is

true enough as is a starter like healthy now they're just like hey this is our guy yeah I think uh Josh just saying on the locker room that like you have if you have two quarterbacks you have none but like for old miss like no you have two quarterbacks because both guys are studs Stunts. I think the other guy is like Austin Simmons. He's a lefty and like can. He's, yeah, he can run and he can fucking zip it.

Lefty. Man. Shirm had a great stat earlier about how college football is pretty much one in the portal now. And then them saying that about what was the stat? Prior to this week, the top seven ranked portals leading into the season where it combined 27 and no going into this week. No way. 27 in the top seven portal classes or 27 and no

It's one in the portal Check it out dabbo Check it out yeah I didn't know about that Dabo God bless man Do we want to talk about A&M Auburn?

Yeah dude A&M's undefeated since what 2016 first time I started Four is it four and five and no What week are we on? This is going to be the fifth week of the season Correct? Week five Week five of college football Week five

Yeah, it's impressive. Yeah. Yeah, A&M in the SEC. Right. Yeah. Possibly the team to beat. Well said. Yeah.

Is Hugh Freeze? Is he on Hotsie Alert, Hugh Freeze? They've looked good against these good opponents. It's the only crazy thing. I mean, they damn near beat Oklahoma if it wasn't true. The losses are two top five teams. They got to keep their receiver. They have arguably like the best receiver in the SEC.

There's rumors about him going to Michigan. Yeah. I've heard that. Have you heard that, Sherim? There's a lot of chatter around. There's a lot of Alabama guys as well. They see Justice Hayes up there like, maybe I should get the fuck out of here. I'm just reporting the news.

I'm just reporting the news. Don't give me that look, G. A&M does look good, though. A&M does look good. I was doing that stream, brother. I was just in there, I'll take that guy. I'll break that guy. Sherman, can you bring up the conferences right now, SEC?

SEC. Because again, another sneaky game was Tennessee going into OT against Mississippi State. We got to watch the end of that game with old Jack and chef. He's cooking. Yeah, I mean, scary game. And Tennessee just came out flat, had the muffed fumble off the punt. But they stayed in it. Defense played really strong. Chris Razzlin, Joey football are some of the best duo. quarterback receiver in the country. Joey Aguilar is currently leading the SEC in total yards and passing yards and touchdowns. Chris Brazzles leading the country and receiving touchdowns and second receiving yards. He's very much in the running for the Belinda Koff, which is promising. But yeah, when you go down to Starkville on ranked Mississippi State, their best win of the season's

ASU, which they were what, like 24 or something when they beat them 20. If you don't feel positive, you don't feel as good as you want to coming on an SEC road game but still like the SEC is the SEC just like the big 10's the big 10 and like a road win it is big especially in a loud environment like Starkville so

I think I think they are good I think they don't get enough credit and the AP poll definitely won't give Tennessee enough credit for that we have not moved in the rankings in three straight weeks the AP poll is it's just I feel like it's louder and louder than it's just the fraud yeah there's been more

It's been more vocal than ever on how shitty it is. Yeah. Wait to like two more weeks from now to start doing that. They just need to adopt the commissioner's poll. I agree. Josh Pate's commissioner's poll. But yeah, it's scary game, fun game. If you're not, you know, sweating it out.

But, uh, yeah. The AP polls does, you got to win. Yeah, you got to win and you have a lot to correct, which is awesome. Yeah. The AP poll feels like it's just becoming like a- Arkansas, which is revenge game and then Bama. So is Arkansas on a buy as well? I'm not sure if they're going to buy this week.

We got to find out about that because Sam Pittman, he just got fired. Arkansas needs a buy. Arkansas needs something. Oh, and didn't they get rid of them? Uh, who? Petino. I think he said it.

No, no, no. Or Petrino. Patrino before Sam Pittman. Correct. Yeah. I have the inside. They're about to sneak it back in. I'm already done.

So, uh, fun fact, went to high school with the girl that was on the back of Petrino's motorcycle. Cool. You did? A little fun fact.

Fun fact. Wow. Shout out Alito, Texas. I do, staying on the AP poll, I do feel like, in my heart of hearts, I feel like people are trolling as these voters.

I feel like they're not being serious. Like, it almost reminds me of the Madden ratings and how they kind of jip you on some Madden ratings just to get everybody talking. I feel like that's what the AP poll is becoming. Yeah. Or these voters just aren't watching all the games.

They aren't. They're just. bias. Yeah. James. Like Joel Clyde's very vocal about... And he hates Tennessee with all this heart. I feel like the AP poll, like it's people who, for lack of a better term, don't know ball.

I feel like it's the personalities that are like talking about the game and like are announcing the games and who are actually physically watching the games. It should be like the AP poll. It shouldn't be these like news writers that are... Yeah, bust with the boys should definitely get a couple votes. They're basically admitting that they're not watching these games. Yeah, because I'm like, obviously, Josh Bates should be the commissioner, should be, like, he should vote for the AP poll. Like, Joel Kla.

Like, those guys who are watching the games and announcing, like, Kirk Herbstry, like, they should be, they should be giving the rankings and stuff. Because, like, they're physically there doing film study, watching the games, announcing the games. Like, they know it better than these AP. And love the sport. Yes.

Yeah. Love the league. This guy has pins. state at number three after losing to order. It's just a useless poll. Because it doesn't do anything for anybody at any point.

Because when the playoffs come around they don't go off the AP poll. It's really just like a seven week playground poll that nobody takes serious and every single one of them should lose their jobs. Yeah, it is very interesting.

the AP poll. You have three AP voters that all had Penn State at number three after their game against Oregon. Are they alum? None of them are alum. I can't wait to the CFP stuff starts coming out, bro. Like the playoff stuff is, Bracketology about to be crazy. Yeah.

We're in a great year. It's a great year for college football. Yes. Then no doubt about it. Also, let's give a round of applause to Illinois. Got absolutely smacked versus Indiana. comes in. Everyone's talking about USC. They got an amazing, the quarterback's incredible, the running back's awesome. They have this lemon kid out here who's like probably a top 10 pick and like,

oh, they're going to roll all over them. And Illinois was able to do anything they wanted the entire game. They owned the line of scrimmage. Luke Altmire, he was throwing forward, he was running forward. He was doing everything he possibly needed. The score, I mean, obviously came down to a last second field goal. But Brett Bilema and that team looked like like Wisconsin, an old Brett Bilemo a Wisconsin team. So shout out to them, man. Seems like USC might also be on fraud alert right now. Could be. Or they could have just traveled to the Midwest and just got punched in the mouth. Maybe. Hopefully they're playing a pissed off team too. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. You think after a score like that and watching, I went back on watched Illinois, Indiana. And it wasn't like a lot of ball,

like a lot of bounces didn't go their way. Like they just got the shit kicked out of them for like 60 whole minutes. So you watch that and you think it's over. Yeah. Because there was one at the, toward the end of the game where Illinois is going into score, they fumble the ball in the end zone. USC gets in that kind of, you know, USC's alive. They could still win this football game. And then even, you know, in the middle eight,

the last four of the first half, first four of the second half, like Illinois, I think was in position to go up, 21, 10 going in a half time and getting the ball, but a turnover happened or I forget exactly what happened to our USC then goes down, gets in the end zone to make it closer than it was. Like, again, Illinois was. If you're watching that game from start to,

finish like Illinois was clearly the better football team on that day on that day the ally and I came out swinging do we uh before we go to NFL do we feel like the Notre Dame Fighting Irish might be back on track oh yeah I got a win out though they had a win out and they also have to have the rest of like the other teams they play work for them a little bit right because you lose those two games to Miami and Texas A&M the Texas A&M game is so tough because they probably should have won that game that last second play there was a holding that did didn't get called yeah but um main c j car yeah the strike he's doing it jeremiah jeremiah i love like he's like what four touchdowns 158 yards total is that you're rushing to that was my

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For the first time all year, ran the ball for more than 75 yards. Interesting how a run game can get it done. Huh? Interesting. Yeah, I was going to say, shout out Kenneth Gainwell, man. He had 99 yards, two touchdowns on the ground. They had a run game. D.K. Metcalf came alive.

You saw some vintage Aaron Rogers ripping a slant over the middle. The D.K. Metcalfe as he runs away from the entire defense. Defense showed up a little bit, causing a couple picks. A couple picks. A couple picks. A lot of conversation around D.K. Metcalf, somebody on this bus said that D.K. wasn't getting a lot of separation. Yes, myself.

Wow. And they run the ball. And look what happens. Ends up being separation because the run made with the pass helps a lot of ways. That's what Arthur Smith wants to do. By the way, let's give a quick shout to Arthur Smith. The man looks incredible with that mustache wearing the all black. Did you guys see him?

He's looking like a seasoned vet right now. He is definitely in his Russ Grimm era right now. Just poised to you on the sideline. Poise Aaron Rogers A lot of question marks around him Is he too old? Is he looking at the rush? The guy crushed it all day long

You see that block he had? No Yes bro No I didn't Lit that boy up Let that boy up huh Put it through his body in there It was nice

Was he 42 It's just incredible Years old Outside of the game You'll see the story About Skylar Thompson The Steelers backup On Friday night

In Dublin he got jumped or something Yeah So it's like What are you doing One going out I guess by yourself In Dublin Ireland Yeah, like, won't you have security?

A bunch of mini McGregers walking around there. Ever since Connor got the double belt, Ireland's got a little cocky with their fighting skills. Tough look. Tough look. But got the dub. Yeah, tough look. The thing you got to love, the Creighting Caucasians. Let's give them a round of applause.

Hard launch of the Creeteen Caucasians out in New York. Nobody thought they could do it. Nobody. No one. Not even us. Yeah, not even us. We just thought it was a fun storyline. It's like Jackson Dart.

he could bring some juice, but the dude is an absolute maniac. Did you see him that third down running at? Beautiful. Running through a motherfucker. And then not only that, thinking he just throwing basically a fist at the DB. I loved every second of it. I love it. To me, that play style of four quarterback, not very sustainable in the NFL.

No. You're going to throw your body around like that. But to start it off. Yes. It gets those people. Yes. Going into this game, it was, hey, what do the Giants need from Jackson? and the whole thing was show life show a spark you take jackson dart mix them up with camp scataboo

and boys you've got juice you've got creatine you got caucasians you got energy in that building oh yeah i saw a comment to people that i was i was having a nice little giggle at where it's like a camp scadaboos sounds like he didn't know how to tie his shoes until he's in seventh grade that's how he loves his running back i thought i got a nice chuckle out of that dude the thing that and also like that defense went off yesterday, that defensive line. I mean, Tibido, Brian, Brian Burns. Brian Burns, like Dexter Lawrence had himself a pick. Like sexy Dexie, sexy, dexie kind of got after a little bit. It's awesome for the Giants to see a little bit of life. They get themselves another W and they got to go to the Saints next week, which is you have to assume the Giants

are probably going to win that game. The only team that's probably worse than the Saints is our beloved Titans right now. But if you're the Chargers, you're in a really tough spot because you have a good ball club, but you lose Roshan Slater during camp to a broken leg. Joe Alt goes down with them, assuming some sort of ankle. Hopefully it's not a high ankle, but like you got to assume he's going to miss a couple of weeks there. And then who was buddy who played for the Eagles last year, won it, was drafted by the Jets, went to Louisville, Mackay Beckton. He gets hurt as well.

So now you have a second and third string tackle playing as your bookends. I mean, Herbert was running for his life. He got hit 14 times in this game. that is not a sustainable move for even like a guy with Jim Harbour like their defense is going to be really good but you got your tackles sort like that, some stud tackles

and Chiefs. Chiefs look fantastic. They might be good again. Yeah, they're good again, man. It's like as much as things change they also stay the same and the Chiefs. They might be good again. Buddy, they're good again. Listen, the Ravens,

they got some shit to figure out. They got some shit to figure out. They do. They really do. But I think the Chiefs are good again. Might be good. again. And if we can't protect Herbert, top five quarterback, we're in trouble. Yeah, Broncos, they still got to play tonight. I love the Broncos in this spot right here against the Bengals. So we'll see. Yeah, it's been a weird week though. It's been a weird week.

Dude, any given Sunday. I mean, you look at the Packers, Cowboys last night, overtime, end in a tie. Which everybody was saying, we're on ESPN and everyone's like, they're going to get boat race. We're saying it's going to be a blood back. Everybody in the world was saying that the Packers are going to boat race the Cowboys. Yeah. We might have overreacted. Not might have we overreacted on how good the Packers can be because they clearly got some holes right now.

I mean, Dak Prescott, he is absolutely him. Yeah. You know, them just operating that way offensively without CD Lamb, Pickens out there just being a dog. Yeah.

But Dak looked amazing. Turpin was out there going off. Like they, their run game was incredible. The game plan they had for Micah Parsons, you need a copy and paste that. I don't know who the Packers play next, but whoever's playing the Packers next.

You need a copy and paste that game when running away from Parsons, hitting with the Sift, when you had to throw the ball, you're rolling away a little bit, you're chipping or sliding towards him. I mean, the guy had very little success during the game. He ends up getting a sack

that would have been a go-ahead touchdown. And it's kind of like, yeah, I think we overreacted on the Packers a little bit after a week one. And it's like, you look at the NFC North and it's like, oh, the Lions. I mean, they're just killing everybody right now. And it's like, yeah.

They just needed a week. They showed you that week one didn't matter. Yeah, they showed you. And it's like, give credit to Iber Fluse a little bit. They still got a 40 burger put on them. Cowboys defense still sucks. Cowboys defense still sucks. However, you see the effort in them disguising a couple of blitzes here and there.

They mixed in a little bit more man. Like, they tried. They still suck. They're not very good. But you got to give a little credit than just doing the same thing over and over and over again. They're not giving up. They're still trying. They're not giving up because there were.

That's the cloudy effect. They were flying around. And I mean, Jordan Love still diced him up a little bit, but it wasn't as easy as it had seen in the last couple of weeks. Jordan Love had 175 yards in the first half. Like I said, it wasn't as easy as we thought it was going to be. And Dak Prescott, like, that had to be one of Dak Prescott's best games of his life. I don't know, I don't care about what the stats are.

If the stats match that. He's a fucking baller. But you're down CD Lamb. You're down Tyler Booker. You're missing a lot of guys. Another tackle, too. Or another offensive lineman. And it's like, but he just still went out there and did his thing.

I think Dak has had those games before, though. Yeah, he has. Like, it was one of his best ones, but I feel like he just gets so much unnecessary hate. And every single year, he brings it. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of the better ones because, again, coming in this game, and you come off a very bad loss of the Browns,

you knew the Packers were going to be pissed off. Homecoming from Michael Parsons is like, there's just, there's no way that the Packers are going to lose this game. and for him to put up 40 and him perform the way he did absolutely and too it's like people want to know who won the trade when you say everybody won the trade

like all Jerry Jones needed like you saw the life of both teams after that tie was over you know their Cowboys kind of you know a few more smiles like to them that that tie was a dub for them Packers it's like they're sitting there they're fucking goddamn I can't believe maybe we're not as good as we thought we were

and and Micah he had that one sack but it was kind of like a chase tackle on DAC. But for that to happen, I had to go down that way. You know, Jerry's like, I think he even said after the game, it's like he made a comment on paying DAC over Micah. You see tonight,

our Dak Prescott, he's indispensable. Micah, not so much. It was something like that, I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like that. You see the promo before the game that they rolled, like the thing with Jerry Jones? He's like, you know,

I want the best for Micah. He's a great guy. Like, we have a great relationship. It's like a one-on-one interview. Then it cuts to Michael Parsons. He goes, I didn't even get a text from Jerry Jones when I got traded. I was like, dang, this is some freaking W-W-E storyline. Yeah.

Yeah. How do we feel about ties? About who? Oh, ties in the NFL? Get him out of here. Let's just do some college rules, man. Let's just see a shitload. Like, I want to see that game be like 65-62.

Yeah. Like, score until you can't anymore. Keep it going. College football rules. College football rules or just start them at the 50. Like, hey, the red zone's a little too easy. It's going to skew a bunch of stats

and everyone's so good in the NFL. Like, okay, start them at the 50. So you know you're, for the most part, going to walk away with points, especially with these kickers are kicking it nowadays. Yeah, they're making those. Right. That's like a 60-something yard.

And make it, yeah, make it college rules after that. Yeah. Like put them on the 50. You score three. Okay, touchdown wins it. Three gets you in another overtime. Shut the clock off. Start going for two.

Right. Is tying the most embarrassing result? Yeah. Not if you're the Cowboys. I think that is the best result you could have asked for. I don't think, I mean, they could have obviously won that game, but no one ever thought the Cowboys were even going to stand a chance, especially when they scored touchdown.

They ended blocking a kick and getting two points off of it. But at some point, like the first half, they're like, oh, they're about to run away with it. We were all right, here we go. And if you're the Cowboys getting that tie, it's like they got to feel good. Yeah, a tie is just a weird headspace. It's like you didn't lose, you didn't win. What are we doing out here?

Yeah, you don't know how to feel. Go back to that last tier talk you had. A waste of a game. You just did all of that effort. You had all of those hits put on you for what? Yeah, my brain doesn't work well enough to understand how ties affect standings and stuff like that. I think it's so dumb. It's dumb.

We got to move on. Put them on the 50. College rules. This one's from Kyle Green, KG 0720. Hashtag tier talk. If Jerry gets a deal done with Micah. It's arguable the Cowboys are four and a four and a four and a team to start this early NFL season. That's false, Kyle.

That is very false, Kyle. That defense is so bad. I know Micah's a stud, but. Yeah, one pass rusher is not going to, you, you're not four and no. You saw Miles Garrett. Yeah, exactly. You saw Schottenheimer the way he was able to game plan, Micah. Like, teams can't do that.

You can get one guy and say, all right, we're done with him. Look at the Raiders. I mean, name another guy on the Raiders divas. besides Max Crosby. Max Crosby was a man on a mission, the first half of the game. Dude, the tip, the tip and then the pick.

Yeah, I mean, Max is incredible. Incredible. I think we're getting into a point with the Raiders like, hey, can we not waste this man's talent? We need to get him one. We got to get him one.

Because there's too many picks, too many fumbles. So much on the office side of the ball. Shout out Ashton Gentie. Shout out Ashty. Coming out, three touchdowns. Back to his own stance.

Yeah. The old stage is all he needed. I was going to say, summer saying he's back to his. stance and now he's back. He's back to Gentie. He's kind of the world confidence stance, right? It's similar. Feree just stood back there and got a boat out.

The flex would be hilarious. We got a tier talk on ties from El Guapo with the hashtag tier talk. Tier talk, ties, honorable mention, the bow tie. Tier three, the 2002 MLB All-Star game tie. Thanks, but Selig. Seleuk. Tier two, the 2008 Eagles versus Bengals tie.

Donovan McNabb didn't know was even possible. Tier one. the Thai fighter from Star Wars. Hashtaghtag tier talk. Thank you, El Guapo. El Guapo. Thank you, El Guapo. Thank you, Al Guapo.

Very sweet. Another honorable mention, Washington Redskins and Cincinnati Bengals back in 2016, London ended in a tie, 23-0. I luckily never had to be a part of a tie. Gene Daniels, at Gene Daniels 24,

can at Taylor 177 take some of his Vegas winnings and get us a wide receiver in the portal at UMish football is almost back I agree gene and luckily lovely for you that'd be a funny vlog that'd be a funny vlog busing with the boys just uh gave 50,000 dollars to Michigan's NIL fund so we've contributed it's like we've contributed trip to Vegas is for the NIL collective of Michigan shout out Gene but yeah man I think the Cowboys need to be happy about that result that's awesome if you're the Packers everything

was in your favor. You're playing the worst defense in the NFL. You just lost. It had a bad loss against a bad Brown's team. And it's like everyone's pissed off. Everyone wants to show you have and you still tie. That's tough, man. Hey, Jackie Boy.

Titans, man. Was it 26-0? Yeah, there's no prepared. Before you say anything about the Titans, I want to point out the Patriots, Mike Vrabble's Patriots won 42 to 13 against the Panthers. Okay, Titans. So no prepared statement.

The Titans are miserable. This is probably the worst franchise we've ever had in the history of the Titans organization. Ken Ward said it best. Keep it a buck. We're asked they got to fire Callahan. Right now, this will come out at 2. So 30 minutes prior to this at 1.30.

Callahan has a scheduled press conference as he does every week. I don't even think they're going to fire him, which is crazy. But, yeah, we're just at the point where yesterday, might have been one of the worst NFL games in the history of the league. I mean, until the third quarter, neither the Houston Texans or the Tennessee Titans got to the red zone. Obviously, Houston turned it on the fourth quarter,

but it's just embarrassing. It's not fun to watch. After you finish Titans games at noon, 90% of your soul doesn't even want to watch another game, but you still push through because you put a couple of bets in on Fandul. Shout out the Fandle so. Shout out Fandle. But, yeah, Titans are,

miserable and everyone knows it in the league it's by far we're the 32 of 32 teams in the league so we'll see I don't really have much else to say you just need an impromptu you guys versus the Saints, Titans versus Saints and just see

who's getting the one pick yeah what are your what are your thoughts on the Titans I mean you were a cornerstone in this place yeah I mean they don't have a competitive team they have too many holes everywhere that doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of accountability other than the quarterback right now.

Situational, they don't handle it very well. I think, you know, you have the two minute in the first game against the Broncos and it didn't like go the way Callahan wanted to go. And so now there's a level of like, I don't know what to do when I'm on the 50, 45 going in. And he's second guessing himself quite a bit. You got me, you got Latham's hurt. You got one of your running backs is hurt. your veteran wide receiver, you pay $90 million.

She had some uncharacteristic drops. 92 million. It's just, it's really being a part of teams that have been in the position of, you know, being one of the worst teams in the NFL, it's hard, man. And do I think Callahan is a long-term, there's a long-term coach of the Titans? I don't. I don't think he seems very overwhelmed. That franchise in general seems very overwhelmed.

It's a top-bottom thing. It starts with the ownership that has to. essentially if I'm the Titans and I'm Amy Adam Strunk and if everything is going with the way it seems like it's going to go with Callahan where he doesn't have a job by the end of the year or at the end of the year I if I'm Amy I'm not releasing a lawyer press conference hey we've decided to part ways I want to appreciate Calhoun for everything he's done for this franchise I would essentially do a selfie video and say listen I made a mistake this is my team I hired the wrong guy.

I would essentially throw Calhahn under the bus and be like, the fans deserve better. Here we go. If I'm, this is strictly if I'm Amy. If she does a video or just does a video in general, like, if you're as a, G, as a Titans fan, Jack, if you're a Titans fan. And Amy doesn't have to be a selfie video.

She says there and she's like, I want to speak to the Titans fans. We've let you down. Are you guys feeling a whole lot better by your ownership, taking accountability? I mean, maybe 1% better. But Amy Adams, hey, 1% of her every day.

She's kind of a coward. And every Titans fan knows that. She probably will not even address. No, this isn't even a joke. Like, Damny Adams will not address the Brian Callahan firing when it inevitably happens. She will have someone else do it.

And this is how it's always been. And that's why a lot of people, if you go online, are saying sell the franchise. Because the ownership, like you said, it starts from the top down. And it's miserable. It's like in the 25,

26 years, I've been a Titans fan. This is the worst organization that has been run, operated, and being like, I can't imagine some of these players where it's like you hear all the outside noise and you just see how pitiful it is and how, you know, the lack of motivation it is to go in today and be like, hey, this is going to be the week. We're going to go and show the Cardinals what we're going to do. Come to the live show or the tailgate. We'll have fun at that.

We'll have fun at that. I'll say this, man. Like, Wizz and Hunt, two and 14, three and 13, wasn't great. It ended up getting turned around. It ended up getting turned around. So if you're a Titans fan, there is, you've had history patches of success where it can turn around and get better. Do I think Callahan has a guy?

I really don't know. If I'm him, I need a lot more guys in my ear who's telling me situationally what's going on so I can focus on it. He gives up play calling last week. It obviously didn't turn out very good. But you've got a first overall pick that's showing a lot of potential. And you just truly, from a roster standpoint, you don't have the horses to get it done right now. You don't.

And so this year's a wash. It is what it is. Feel good about having the first, you know, a top three pick in this draft. And let's, hey, let's get optimistic. It's not great right now. But it could be. And we've seen the past couple though Like if this year's a wash

Last year's a wash This year's a wash Right I understand Yeah 2014 was a wash 2015 was what Boom 2016 9 and 7

17 9 and 7 17 9 and 7 You know like you start to get in a position Of being successful Guys just got to learn how to win again man It's hard It's tough And when you lose a shit load

It's kind of like You don't really know what to do It's like kind of just Kind of becomes you for a second And all it takes is one little spark you get a win it's like oh there's a little bit of confidence and keep it moving with this new stadium opening up they got to turn it around quick no doubt amen i'm not taking away from the the amounts of pressure that it's happening around nashville and what they need to do in order

to have this 2027 look a whole lot better than it's looking right now get john gruden in here do you think john green would take the job right now no you got a lot more holes than that man it's just tough you know who else sucks though the Saints the Saints the Bills played him over the weekend I don't know if you knew that I didn't know that until the fourth yeah yeah I mean that's I think that's Josh Allen's M.O. at this point maybe the Saints don't like suck suck but just trying to get us you know in a different barbs are getting really low it was it was more of a therapy session in the red zone of Saints were in the red zone a bunch they just could never

get the touchdown But it was close up until like, yeah, halfway through the fourth quarter. Yeah, and then Josh Allen kind of took over. So I run the ball a little bit. Nice, man. I was saying, though, that's Josh Allen's MO. Like, he's kind of had like an average to slightly below average defense. And he's just been able to put points on the board no matter what.

James Cook is cooking right now. He's doing his thing. Like, Josh is the real fucking deal. The real thing he's always going to, they're going to be contenders as long as he's the quarterback. Back to back MVP? Possibly. I want to apologize for the audience bringing this back to the Titans, but we do have a tier talk, hashtag Tier Talk from Slick from Slick Rick 626.

Do you trade your first round and second round pick to get an edge rusher or weapon for the Titans? Jack? I don't know. No. No. Just to defeat it. He's just onward. Yeah, who would have beat?

And we just went over it with Michael Parsons. Like, one edge rusher is not going to change your franchise. Right, right. I mean, Jeff Clowny, I guess Hey, Jeff, look, he had that one play He swam over the Senate That was unbelievable

Yeah, they're saying Fastest sacking NFL history That was incredible to see If we're talking to optimism If they do have the number one pick They have a quarterback So maybe they trade that number one pick Add some more pieces

Get some equity, yeah Optimism Optimism Doesn't hurt clump Yeah, spend money If you're the Titans ma'am If you're the team, get your checkbook out Like you want this thing to go well

you gotta spend money and get some cats and then get some people to put them in good positions uh uh noel belcher at noel underscore belcher hashtag tier talk a lot of dudes out right now what are the worst injuries the boys had while playing

ACL it's been a mainstay yeah PCL and breaking uh well the list frank the list frank that I had the PCL was nothing to use though yeah i was out eight days i was on the practice field after eight days put some some stuff in the old knee what was the painful injury you had the foot by far i thought somebody took a shotgun to the top

of my arch from this from barso camp or from nfl we're playing the vikings we're playing the vikings bro i remember it happening i kind of like planned to go into a block and it just pow and i like kind of crawled off on the side and Doc came out. He's broken. The entire arch, it just snapped in half. My boy, it's gone. Self-diagnosed? Yeah.

I'm retiring. That one was painful. And I had this weird cyst on my tailbone. That was pretty brutal. From footballer. I think from hygiene. The docs would be in there trying to pop and stuff. And oh, that should be so painful.

They'd have to numb it so they had to put like, whether it's like lytokine, but even the needle, like going up underneath to try and numb it. Oh my God. Is that the one that's like right above like your butt crack kind of? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got them take, I got videos on my phone of it.

Yeah, that's so like my girlfriend's in PA school. That's kind of, you get that from kind of being dirty. It's more because I have a lot of hair on my ass. You know this. Showering with me. I have a lot of hair on my ass. That's what that's what it is. It's like, it's essentially just an ingrown hair that's just like got infected.

Yeah. Just from kind of being dirty. Yeah. What do you know my ass crack is dirty? That low back pinch is horrible. Bro. That's kind of gross, man. Yeah.

Trust me. I didn't want it. Terrible apparently too. Yes, dude. Really? Oh, yeah. All the shit that comes out of that thing? You have that video for real?

Yeah. I got to see that video. Not one that's like where like opens up and everything else, but one more basically all the trainers were all like laughing and stuff because it's like another visit I have to do where they're trying to pop. I'm like, I need you guys to fucking pop this. thing. Just in their ass, tuted it up. These disguise in the backs pass.

So he got another ingrown hair. Do you want to talk about the Eagles at all? Your Eagles being undefeated still? Your boy, Jalen Hertz, zero completions in the second half? Zero passing yards. Zero passing yards. But also zero losses in the last calendar year as of today when Jalen Hertz has started a game and finished it.

So I know we just, the Titan stuff was tough as I'm sitting here thinking. that the Eagles, I have not watched the Eagles lose a game of football when Jalen Hurts started and finished in a year. It's kind of crazy to think about. So I don't care about the completions. I know A.J. Brown might. Yeah, it always feels like death taxes, Eagles being undefeated and AJ Brown cryptic tweet coming out. Cryptic tweet coming out. Yeah. I mean, he had nine targets and only two catches for seven yards. Look, until the Eagles lose, like there's no, they're winners, bro. It's like, hats off to Syriani. He's a bona fide head coach right now. Like, I don't know. Like there's, there's times where I'm like, man, this team is, they don't have a, it's not like they move the ball that well in offense, but then they do it the right times.

Like, they win. They're four and oh. I have, I have no fucking clue. I put out a thought last night to where it's like, there just seemed like this, this puzzle that you can't figure out. And there's nothing to figure out our dissect until they lose. Yeah. It kind of reminds you of like the chiefs last year a little bit, how they just, no matter what, they just win. It's like, oh, yeah, they blocked the kick.

They did this. It's like, they just win. Right, but the Chiefs, though, there's never like a, no, this isn't like, there's never like this, this underlying feeling that there's something there that's going to come out eventually. Like the Chiefs is like, they find ways to win. They've always been creative. Like, they've always figured out. With the Eagles, I feel like there's just, there's something that's there that just hasn't came to the surface yet. And until it does, there's nothing to really say or talk about.

Right, right. Because like zero completion, zero yards in the second. And say whatever you want about Jalen Hertz, but he's winning. Yeah, he's winning. He got creative with the tush push. Like what, two touchdowns on some fake tush push? I think that was first reported that was going to happen on the locker room. We talked about that this week.

Yeah. Now that you have an unstoppable play, add a wrinkle to it. Shout out Jihad Campbell. Dude is flying around. Do you guys feel that same way too? I feel like that's kind of my feeling like there is something there, but I just, there's really, there's nothing you can say until they lose because they've, again, they haven't lost in a full calendar year.

They're the reigning Super Bowl champs. It's like the Eagles are going to eagle and there's really nothing you can do about it. Yeah. And like nobody knows what that means. I don't even know what it means, but it's like it's inevitable. Great defense. Do you think Siriani and his coaching staff and know what that thing under the surface is that can get them?

Maybe. Why you have Big Dom on staff? That's why you got Big Dom. Big Dom. They're just so creative with what they do, like that block punt. I went into the Bucks game. I'm like, oh, it's going to be a tight one because Jalen Hertz, I think, is one and four versus the bucks.

Nick Siriani, one and four versus the bucks. And then they block that punt and return it for a touchdown. And it's just like, oh, yeah, never mind. The Eagles, like, figure it out. somehow every way. But buddy, Baker still had a chance at the end of the game.

I know. Baker's great. He was under a shitload of pressure and that was a bad throw but like, can't take away from what he's done these last four weeks, man. Three game winning drives

had an opportunity to do it in this fourth game. They were down. What was the score at half? They were getting bodybacked. Yeah, it was bad at half. Yeah, it was more than a two score game like and Baker just still came out

continued to fight. Yeah. It's just. And going off the Chiefs things last year it's like who do they got like they got mahomes yeah you don't sit there with the way the kind of eagles are squeaking them out it's like oh it's like no matter what the trump card of everything isn't jalen it's just like you have no clue it's just the team i mean jailin is very he's a conservative quarterback takes care of the football allows his defense to work from knows he has

a good run game even though the run game hasn't been as good as it could be he knows he's got weapons at the wide receiver spot so like yeah they're packing the box in but the same time like if you are if you're a defense scouting them it's like yeah they're a their offensive production through the year hasn't been great, but they got Goddard, they got A.J., they got Devonte, is it Devante? They got Devonte Smith. John Dotson.

Yeah, John Dotson. They have so many weapons. It's like even if you think, okay, they're not going to throw the ball on us, they could at any point. And that's what's scary. Ask the Rams last week. Some dogs on that defensive side. Yeah, Rams.

Yeah, Rams, heavyweight bout. Rams, Colts, Stafford, late in the game. Yeah. I mean, Colts are a good team, bro. Colts are a good team, but I'll say this, kind of saw the loss coming. Daniel Jones, before the season started, didn't even post on Instagram after last week,

posted his first time. Oh, no, Daniel Jones. Can't do it, man. You can't have, you can't go into, he put out a post or three and no. He said something about like having fun playing football, very innocent, if you could pull that post up. But he had nothing the first three weeks,

and then all of a sudden they go three and no. was it the first or second drive if there was a pick tall DJ tough dude I mean I mean they've won that game

that run just got called back there it is bro there's the post and then Stafford through a the run got called back and then and then oh boy fumbles the bone to the end zone

just for his life going to dive on it grabs it kind of like looks around he's like oh my god yeah he's like oh my god did like did I get on this in time

yeah I feel like the Colts may have lost that game rather than the Rams winning it. That's a fair point, but like again, if you're a good team, you're going to take advantage of bad football. Stafford, two tuddies in the last four minutes of the game, like doing Stafford things. Like you got Devante, you got Nakuwa, Puka Nukua, you got Kairn Williams.

Like they, again, it's like you have to take advantage of bad football. But also like two touchdowns taken off the board from a penalty and Adana Mitchell. Same guy. He had the holding on the Jonathan Taylor and then fumbling it in the end zone. Yeah, but what Will is saying is like, okay, those touchdowns happen.

And who's to say that Stafford and the boys don't just return one right away. Yeah. You know, like, look at well. Was he, old Miss Cat kind of comes in. He's plays like very sparingly, Louisville. Like very sparingly. Could have gave up on him a bunch, but the dude just got insane elite speed. And then he throws an absolute dime.

Like, Stafford is the man. Yeah, Stafford is the man. He's always going to have him game. Their run game looks good. Their D line is nasty. Pooka's amazing. Pooka right now has 5003 yards. on the season in four games.

Dude, that one over the middle that he picked up. The ball was thrown so low and he just scoops it and rolls it. So it's not even in question whether he caught the ball or not. You know why he's good. Big head. Kids got a big head. He can always tell success in the size of a head, man.

All right. Mitch. Shut on Mitchie. Quentin Tarantino. A big heads. Just have a way of making it. Thanos. Thanos. Big head.

So something to think about. Maybe you should do that at the combine. your guys had the fumble before the goal line it's still just running through my head jp yeah why is it keep happening i don't see how that's still a thing there's always something man do we want to do a little tear talk before we get the boys out of here uh we have a hashtag tier talk coming from tyler her uh hebert hebert t hebert double zero if everyone on the bus was a part of the all white team coaching staff what position would everyone have and are they covering plus plus 23 and a half.

So we're the coaching staff? Yeah, you guys are the coaching staff. What position would you guys be? I got the kickers and punters. Yeah, JP special teams. I got special teams with your permission. Yeah, I'll take that. You'd have to shave your head, give me a Basaccia look.

Yeah, easy. Which I know they're kind of Packers, special teams. Hate bringing that up because I love Basatia. I know he's ready to just cut some guys right now. Mitch, I feel like you got, I would be like wide receivers coach. I don't know if I don't know if I want to take offensive coordinator away from Taylor and I don't know if I'm ready for that responsibility but I would definitely be a wide receivers coach I'll tell you what we would do if we get the ask Madden going yeah the week the week before

we would all sit in a room we'd go over plays we like best for our wide receivers for our running backs for our quarterback we'd be in a good spot I would find myself in an OC offensive line position obviously yeah spent a long time with the office line figure out their strengths and weaknesses go call some games yeah I'd be like a defensive minded head coach yeah defensive-minded head coach. Like, who'd want the title of D.C.? Who wants the title of the defense side? Oh, that'd have to be myself.

We're all in the offensive side of all. All white team. Yeah, I mean, it is Will's baby. Okay. Just to be honest, I don't want the pressure of being a head coach. I want to focus on my guys. I want to get into a room. I want to love them up.

Let him make the hard decisions of who to cut, who to keep. Who you got, Sherman? I was, if this is allowed, I would love to coach up maybe the cheer squad or be in charge a halftime show. There you go. Yeah, game entertainment. If that's okay with y'all. I think in-game experience, if you're the head of that,

it's going to be. When lose or draw, the fans are going to have fun. Okay, good. Get back coach. I was going to say, I'll be the get back coach, analytic guy. I'll do that. Yeah, that would be. Oh, so Nolan would be good at that, though.

Ryan, yeah, he can be analytics. I'll be the get-back coach. You can be our don't. I'll just be holding you guys back. I'll be a big dog. Yeah, be our big don't. I'd not say that. Yeah.

I had a security. Did you a couple chains, gold, everything. Damn. I love that. Yeah, you handle business. You're on that phone all the time, too. Yeah. I think I'm going to take, like, the successor of a Mike Keith,

be our color commentator. Okay. I can give you pretty vocal, you know? All right. I think the D.C. title would have to go to Jared Deeman. It's like him run the defense. We ain't covered 23 and a half then. You let Will call the place.

Let Beaming get all the credit. Then he goes six of a head coaching job storm and be like, we'll see in a year. Do we think the spread is actually 23 and a half? Like is that like we're getting better. Yeah, I think 23 and a half's fair. I feel like it would be closer to like 16, 17. Oh, buddy.

Yeah, look, we'll see it as disrespect, 23 and a half. Yeah, we'll use it as motivation. Keep it at 23 and half and put the house on it. We're covering responsibly. I feel like we're better than 23.5 is what I'm saying. I got a good squad. Right. We think so too.

But let Vegas leave it at 23.5 right now. Right. Or Tyler. Or Tyler. Only coaching staff to ever bet on our own games. Yeah, yeah. See how long it takes us to get exile from the league. What else we got here?

But I think we got a couple more tier talks. We're good? We feel good. Yeah. And we have our special guest, Dan Lannning. Came on the show. Let's give him a round of applause. Dan Lannning comes in after a big double OT win over Penn State at Penn State.

Big time, Dante Moore, Dante Moore, plus 650 in the Fandle to win the Heisman right now. Just an incredible game to watch. Incredible game to watch. Hope you guys enjoy that. Any parting thoughts? Let's be great, man. Let's be great.

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You are juiced up. Yeah. I mean, it's about to, you know what it's like after a game? You're about to cry. You're about to scream. You're just like jacked. And I probably had like 50 Zins at the time, you know. Hell yeah.

No free shout-outes to Zinn. No free shout-outes to Zinn. But you're scrolling the timeline. You see. You know, you see the clips of Coach Lanting. You see the cocaine clip. You see Coach Lanting just letting out a primal yell and just, ah!

Like during the whole thing, he had all the emotions going on. How do you got? We're no different, right? Like, you can't play anymore. This is the closest you can get to play. And that's what those moments feel like. Like, it's like that's how close you get to touch on it, you know? Dude, you held, what was it?

You held Penn State to, what, six points in the first 50 minutes of the game? Talk. Oh, Will's back seizing up. We're going to keep going. All right. Talk to me about the defensive play to get that, the white guy, white boy getting over in the zone defense to pick that thing off. Like, take me through that play call, all that stuff.

Because I know you're a defensive mind of coaching. It was awesome to see me. Like everybody at the bus in the stream on Saturday night was we're all rolling for the duck. Especially when they had some life there in the second half. I know because it was momentum, momentum, momentum. And you kind of quieted the crowd and all of a sudden, we're going to overtime. They're right in that game.

So take me through that defensive call. We're in hell. Yeah, we got. It was the first time this weekend. You know, they had some success. And we'd hold them all game. But we felt like they found something. They found a place to get extra hats.

And we didn't have a great answer. I just remember flipping over to defense and saying, hey, look, you guys got to come up with somebody to come on this play. And we got like, what's our, well, let's look at our roll decks. What do we have? What would we not run? And then we have to have a plan for the score route, which is the route they ran there at the very, very end. So we need something that stops both, right? And we ran a call.

We hadn't ran all game. But we had practiced for this game. we created really for those two plays. And we'd been talking about that route, you know, all game and hadn't seen it. And we get out there and they give us a personnel that we're like, ah, that's different than the personnel group we've ran this against in practice. But all right, let's give it a shot. And I thought, Tosh, the defensive staff did an unbelievable job as saying, like, no,

we went through everything. Like, this is the way that we can stop both plays. And they ran it and Dylan makes an unbelievable interception. If he wasn't there, Aaron Flowers is right there to play cleanup. up, you know, we had a pressure on the quarterback. You cut out there at the very end. I think he's back with this. I see him kind of.

I'm back. He's back. He's back. There is. I want to ask this question because as a player, and if you have a really good head coach, they said a good, they said a good story for how the week's going to go, for how the game's going to go. And there's a philosophy or an analogy you live by. You're alluding to it.

And the presser after the game, death by a thousand cuts. Cut after cut after cut. And at the very end, you're going to hit. him with one last cut and it's going to be at the jugular. Was there a part of you that thought that jugular shot was when you went up 17 to 3 versus in OT when that interception happened? No, so. Because you started giving them that they're going.

They're done. Yeah. So like throughout the game, you'll see our players doing it. Like we're all, hey, that's a cut. That's a cut. And I said, eventually, guys, we're going to hit a couple arteries and we're going to hit a couple jugulars. And I was telling them that was an artery.

Like, that's an artery. We got an artery. But like, it ain't done. Like, let's keep chopping. but I didn't know that was going to be something that went public, I guess. I mean, I should assume everything goes public now. Especially with you. The emotion you play with the cameras are going to be on you.

We're going to hit cuts and eventually we're going to hit a couple arteries. And yeah, we hit one there. But it obviously wasn't enough. Like, unbelievable job by Penn State. Like that team's a really good team. That's a hard place to play. That's like driving up that tailgate, I haven't really seen much like that. That was really impressive.

What was it like playing at the white out night game? And again, like hats off to you, the staff, and even the players, too, you have a young, very talented team. And like a question mark going into it is there's going to be a lot of firsts for a lot of these guys traveling across the country and going into a place like Penn State to play against that team. Like what was that experience like? Your kids handled it well.

Talk us through that. You always talk about trying to create chaos in practice, you know, before you get to the game. And that's hard to replicate. like if I could have shipped in 100,000 fans to our practices this week, I would have. You couldn't do that. I talked to Urban Meyer before and he talked about how there's really like hot spots in the game. It's going to be third down.

It's going to be down when you're down by their student section. It's going to be the first play the game. It's going to be every punt. So we carried around a lot of these turtle boxes. And like we had our speakers going. We had our sideline speakers going. We had our stadium speakers going. And then behind every huddle, we had like 15 turtle boxes up on our guys.

And we're just holding them over. And we did it, you know, certain. periods of practice. We call this period, you know, hot spot period. We do it on punt, you know. So I was really proud to walk out of the game. Our offensive line didn't have a single false start, you know, like that. That's a great example of the preparation paying off and our guys handled that really well. We had two false starts, but it was, it's actually from our tight ends. So I thought, I thought those guys handled the moment really, really well. Yeah, it seems like you guys weren't phased at all by the noise during the game. Now,

you had one running back in particular, and it happens to be that that he's a Missouri running back. Illinois, East St. Louis, I believe, the one who got me, right? The one who got you. He ends up going off against Oregon. Is it Jay Harris? Is that who I'm talking about? Is that who the guy is? It's actually Deere Hill had a, but they're both, both from St. Louis, Jay and Deere. But Hill. Deere went to high school, Altaff Catholic, which is in Illinois, but he's lived in both. He's been Missouri and been Illinois, both. And Hill's the one that broke off Wilcofton. Is that correct? That's Jay. Jay, J broke off Will. Okay. And Jay himself. I mean, but you can.

You could pick a player on our team. They could have broke off Will. Well, I was going to say, well, we're watching the stream. Everyone on the stream is like, that's the guy that got Will. That's the guy that got Will. Would you say, like Jay's confidence getting that 12-yard touchdown? Did that come from spring when he went into Will Compton? Nine-year-bed.

A lot of our guys, after we went against an NFL player in practice and we were able to give him the business, I think a lot of our guys gained a lot of confidence that day. So, I mean, a lot of the credit belongs to Will, what he was able to do for our team in that moment. That's exactly what I was looking for. If there's one thing that Will Compton love. It's taking credit for other people's success. He loves it, man. He loves every time Washington or the Raiders,

when he's like, if it wasn't for me, this would have never happened. Laining will tell you, that's Missouri linebackers, man. We just got a weird chip on our shoulder at all times. At all time. You talked about your offensive line a little bit, and one of your office line, I had the opportunity to work out with in the spring game or spring practice. He has himself a little personal foul,

hits him with the old classic guys walking behind him. You tap the heel. and hits the other foot and he turns around. He's like, hey, he hit me in the face. Do you yell at him during that game? And then after that, kind of watched a playback and laugh about it because you guys got the W? Why I'm pissed is because I yelled out of two series before.

I'm like, hey, man, whistle to whistle, right? Like, he goes, am I doing too much? I'm like, you're doing too much. Chill. Like, take a deep breath. And then two series later, he gets that. He's like, damn it. Like, I know it.

And I know I deserve to get yelled at right now. Now, he played a great game. Like, he did really, really well. all game. But yeah, that was a frustrating one because it's like you saw it coming as a coach. The motions are so high. You saw it from the sideline. All right. Keep your composure. Keep your composure. And then it happens. And it's really, I mean, I think we all, you watch that. And you're like, okay, was the flag necessary there? You know, if you're watching that the whole time, you're like, I don't know. But it happens. And that's the kind of thing you can't let somebody else

have control of. So that's a great learning moment for Alex. He played, like I said, he played a really good game. That's one I know he wishes he had back, especially considering he got a warning before it ever happened from myself and his offensive line coach. I love it. Speaking of penalties, can we talk about how confusing the targeting rule is? Oh, yeah. Because that shot, like, you know, I guess by rule, he's not like a defenseless receiver, but you look at... Wild! Dude, I know, it's like I see people talking about it. I'm thinking to myself, look at weeks a couple weeks ago, LSU, Florida.

And he's just out on the perimeter making a hell of a play as a linebacker. And he gets kicked out from the game. It happened in Alabama, Georgia as well. But bro, like, what are they explaining to you when it's like, bro, if we're talking about player safety, like this dude just got destroyed helmet

to helmet. Jay Lamar is a beast, man, be able to handle that. But somebody told me I had something to do a hairline. And I saw a meme afterwards on Twitter of like a hairline like all the way back to him. If that isn't, I mean, I guess I shouldn't say anything. I don't know. Yeah, I thought it was targeting.

I definitely thought it was targeting. That's a good job of recomposing yourself just now. What are the referees? Like, what are the referees? Like, what are officials saying to you in that moment when you're just like, you're like, guys, like here's the replay. We're watching it together. Like how is it?

In the stadium, obviously. So they didn't play the real, the replay up top. You know, because everybody in that stadium that would have seen that replay would have been like, oh, he's done. Right? Yeah. If that's not, I don't know what it is. So all they tell you is we're looking at it up top.

We're looking at it up top. So it's really frustrated as a coach, and you're like, what are they looking at? What do they see? Because it felt like one that was pretty clear. And I guess it wasn't. You know, you got to stick to what the rules are. And the rules obviously say that was not targeting. God, Stephen A. Smith, Heraldine.

Did you happen to catch the, that was a good one? Thank you. The Florida State Virginia game. Florida State... That was on Friday night. I caught bits and pieces that saw the field being stormed. I'm watching this game and I think with the ACC, they do something really cool where you're like in the review, you're like in the booth with going over reviews and calls.

I would have loved to have heard like all the back and forth, like you hear all the back and forth with the referees talking about, I would have loved to have heard it when this was going on because it's like, man, what are they even talking about? Do you think this is a hypothetical and funny, do you think they like went to the booth and then like, hey, nobody, hey, nobody's in the booth. Nobody's up there. What's going on? Like, when on a bathroom break or something?

Like, I don't know, because that was definitely some crazy contact there. That was wild. But they obviously got the call right, you know, I guess. I guess. Do you, is that something you go to like this today? You go and whatever, I don't know what referee, if it was like a, if it was a Big Ten referee staff or whatever. Do you go to the Big Ten and say, hey.

We turn in plays every week. Yeah. So that was turned down. Honestly, is the best. is really the best when it comes to feedback on that. So I'm anxious, we send in plays each week like, hey, can you just give us your interpretation of this? You know, do you see this is a proper call, non-proper call?

So we'll get feedback later on this week on, you know, a couple of calls that we sent in just to get, you know, evaluated and get better explanation for us. I had a question about Dante Moore. Obviously, he transfers him UCLA a couple years ago. He sits behind Dylan Gabriel, but you've been able to go from Boat, next to Dylan Gabriel to now at Dante Moore who's sitting at what plus 650 in the Heisman heisman race right now like how do you get a guy like that to stay and be like hey you need to be patient with the way the the whole transfer portal works now like a guy like him

if he's sitting behind I'm sure he thinks to himself I can go anywhere else and play right now like what are those conversations look like when you're sitting there in the start of fall last year and be like just relax like you're going to have your time but not yet yeah you know honestly, Dante, like, he handled, you're, what it starts with is you'd be honest. And I think what happened for Dante when he left UCLA is he looked around college football and you realize all these guys that are getting opportunities to go to the NFL, very few of them were freshmen, sophomore quarterbacks. You know, the majority of them were, like, Jaden Daniels was playing in his fifth year.

Like, Bo Nix is playing in his sixth year, like Michael Pennix. Like, these guys had been maximizing their career. And the key was how they played when they left. So for him, I think you realize it's not about how fast I play. It's about how I play when I get on the field. And had an unbelievable maturity. I think he felt like, hey, this is a place I want to be. I want to go learn.

I see what this offense is doing. I see how they've developed guys. That's something I want to be a part of. And if it means I'm on the field this year, great. If it means I get to learn from a veteran, even better. And what he was able to learn from Dylan Gabriel, he'll be the first one to tell you, like, man, that was an unbelievable experience for him. And it made him, you know, play the way he's playing now.

If I could go back just on the targeting call, there's a couple ideas. There's a couple ideas floating out there, but I would love to have your opinion. If you could do anything with that rule, what would you like to see done differently? I don't know. Yeah. He's like, they all do a great job up there. Yeah. I don't have an answer.

So there's a cool idea floating around that somebody had in my comment section, I want to say, last week. But you kind of treat it like the NBA where there's like a flagrant. Flaker 1, Flagrant 2. It's like, okay, it might be a 15-yard penalty, but to kick a kid out of the game, like he would have to be pretty egregious to kick him out of the game to where you see kind of like a tier 1 level

and a tier 2 level. Thoughts on that idea, Coach Laining. Yeah, sounds great. I love it. I love it. Let's talk about DeCorean Moore real quick, former five-star. You also got another kid, Jordan Davis, five-star.

How are you getting all these damn five-stars? Like up in the North West? Like, I've traveled to Oregon And it takes, you know, planes, trains, and automobiles just to get over there. And you're getting these kids five stars from all over the country. How do you do it, Dan? And what can I tell to Sharon Moore that he can do? Best versus most convenient, right?

Like, you can go to the most convenient place. And that doesn't mean you're going to the best. You know, I think we have one of the best place. Like our coaching staff is really dynamic. Our players want to play with great players. And again, like, when you first get here, you talk about a vision, right? And now you're able to say, like, okay, proofs in the pudding, right? Look at what these guys have done when they've done.

come here and the success they've created. And I think we get a bunch of guys that realize the most you're ever going to grow in your life is when you go to college. And someday, like, you guys experienced it when the Arizona Cardinals call, guess what? You move to Arizona. It doesn't matter where it's at. When the Seattle Seahawks call, you move to Seattle. It's the same, like, you get that same opportunity in college. Go pick the place where you're going to develop and get to be the best version of you.

And obviously, we get to be more competitive in getting these guys, but you recruit your tail off. You wake them up. You put them to bed, right? And text messages and phone calls, you build relationships. And I think that's really paid off for us here. Staking on Decorium more, at what point in the fall did you realize, oh, this kid's special? I think we recognized it in the spring. When he first got here in the spring, you know, what Decorians grown up so much from is, you know, he was a perfectionist and everything went so good for him, right?

In high school, and now you get somewhere in Europe, you're playing some dogs. You're playing some real players, too. And I think what he had to realize is like, hey, there's going to be good and there's going to be bad in every game. right? How do I respond to that? That's going to be the biggest tell about me. And he's responded really well. I mean, you remember early in that game, he had a slant that came his way, got bottled. And then he ended up coming down. It could have easily turned into an interception, right? And then later on, he has a huge conversion on fourth and three where it turned into, you know, it wasn't, it didn't go as scripted, right? He's trying to run a route. The guy wires him and he turns into

scramble drill. Dante hits him in stride down the sideline, huge conversion for us. But I think he's just been able to adapt in those moments where like, okay, if plan A doesn't work, let me go to plan B and let me execute it. And he did a really good job of that in that game. Coach Lane, we're talking about some of the best schools you can go to in the country. Also a couple schools that people are talking about the Big Ten championship, the Huskers and the Oregon Ducks. Who else do you see popping off to you out there in the Big Ten conference aside from those two schools?

Indiana. That's who we play next. Yeah, Indiana. They're playing really good ball. Oh, dude, I've heard. I've heard Signetti's talking a lot of shit. I don't know exactly yet. You're saying I'm sleeping on my tummy?

Yeah. He might be saying you're going to be able without two hands. Yeah, without two hands. Closing the fridge on the fridge. Yeah. I mean, with that. Come on. Yeah.

Can't believe these. Saying, say an oop. That one's for them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but you brought up some comments that allegedly James Franklin just said. Do you, do you, when you hear that James Franklin may or may not be saying those things

about you, do you take that personal, Missouri boy? What's weird about it is like immediately when those comments come out, how I get a text message from Will saying to don't read this. Whatever you do, don't read these comments. Don't look at what was said. And like, yo, obviously I immediately laughed. Yeah. Last week I sent him the clip and I said, please tell your PR team to not let you see this clip. Direct message is it to me and says, please, please make sure they know you shouldn't watch this clip. How to get your piss hot though, knowing James is talking like that, huh? Oh, man, he's a great coach.

And the part that is rough, you know, is you walk in, you guys saw it like I saw it. At the end of that game, either team could have won that game, right? You're like this far away from going either way. And he has an unbelievable team. He, like, coached him really well. We had some success, obviously, in the third quarter. And then the fourth, they make this unbelievable comeback. And, you know, for me, you set your jaw and you say, hey, regardless of what happens, our guys, they were just in a battle.

They were in a war. regardless of what happens, unbelievable game. And somebody comes out on the other end of that. And, you know, I hurt for their locker room and the work that they put in, because I promise you, they worked really hard too, you know, for that to play out. So I'm grateful that we got to be on the right end of it when it's all said and done. But you have to acknowledge how close it really was at the end. What else do we got?

I'm trying to think of a way to ask a question about James Franklin being four and 20 versus top 10 teams, but in a respectful way because you're right. Like they are a great coach team. and they have a lot of talent there. But that is a glaring stat that kind of just sits in front of us all when we look at Penn State. Is there anything, is kind of a shitty question, but like what is not happening on Penn State side

that they might need to fix? Is there something that is easily fixable there? I can't speak to that. I can speak to James Franklin is an unbelievable coach and anybody that can't be excited about being a fan of theirs and excited about the games that he's won and what he's done for that program. That program was an unbelievable shape.

They've got a really good team. And the season's not over. Like that team's going to win a lot of ball games. They're going to have a lot of success. And you saw the run they went on last year. Like they played longer than we played, right? Last season. And we saw them in the Big Ten championship,

but they were able to go on a great playoff run. They've got a great team again. He does a great job. I think they've got great coordinators on both sides. They've got great players. Those guys played with great effort. It's just, you know, it's a, it's a, you know, small, small, small segment here or there that made the difference in that game.

Yeah, that was a shitty question. You're right. As a head coach, though, like compartmentalizing, is it pretty easy to compartmentalize like these shadows that kind of chase you, whether it's a record versus an AP poll or a record on the road or record against like these rival opponents? Like, is that a real thing as a head coach in your mind and is it easy to compartmentalize? Or is it, you know what I mean? Like, are you acknowledging those things like with yourself or with the team?

or is it pretty easy to find an analogy or philosophy to lean on? Or what usually goes through a head coach's mind, like when there are some glaring things, like, of a shadow when you're at a school? Well, I mean, that exists everywhere. And, you know, for me, it'll be until we win the big one, right? That's, they'll say the same thing about me. And what I think you figure out really quick as a head coach is like, who cares? Who cares what anybody else thinks?

Like, you can't worry about the opinions of others. What you've got to ask yourself is, did I do, did I learn every lesson I could have learned in that moment, did I get better? Did I grow? Did I make sure our team was still growing, right, in every moment? And then the rest takes care of itself. It takes some luck to win a game. It takes some, the ball's got to bounce the right way.

And if you can't acknowledge that, then you don't really know football. You haven't been a part of football. But you can stack as many advantages as possible by the way you work, the way you prep, the way you grow. And like, that's what I was really excited about after this game. I told our staff yesterday, like, man, unbelievable effort by our players. unbelievable job by you as coaches, but did you guys, did you guys see this? Like, that's a wart. Like, we got to get this war removed right now. Like, did you guys see this? Like, okay, we got to,

we got to carry more answers for this in the future. So we were able to learn some really valuable lessons, even in a win. So I think that's, that's just part of it. And then you stack as many of those lessons as you can. And then you hope you stack enough that it removes the luck and the advantages that just happened within a game at times. Yeah, there's like always a amount of criticism that comes to coaches until they prove people wrong. Like I believe you got some criticism playing Washington, Kaelin DeBore's Washington, Huskies a few years ago for going for it on fourth down quite a bit.

You walked into this game and you go for fourth down seven times. You get five of them. Is that something you, I mean, it was so clear that any time it was close enough to go for it, you're doing it. Was that something you told your kids before in the pre-game? Like, hey, if it's fourth and one or two,

we're going for it every single time here. Tell the punter, sit down, buddy. we're going to have a day? Well, I told her guys we're going to be aggressive in this game. And we're going to walk back after the game and say, oh, man, I wish we would have. And it was limited possessions. We had five possessions in the first half. They had four. You know, I think in the second half, it was very similar. And they were going to get one more, one more than us, you know, in the second half because they started with the ball in the second half. So we had to be really advantageous, you know, with every possession. And, you know,

fourth and one, there's a really high conversion rate. Fourth and two, is still very high. It's hard. Like, I thought we had them a good answer for them on their fourth downs, and they were able to convert. They were three for three for fourth down. So this is a game where you can't just go back afterwards and like, hey, we did the right thing. We punted and it didn't work out.

Like, we wanted to make sure that we left it on the field. And the only way you can score touchdowns at the end of drives is converting, you know, on fourth down. You can't kick a field goal and be in that situation. What's the thought process and conversation? like you're wanting to be a very aggressive team and then also having that decision whether you're going to go for two,

having the ball second in OT compared to you, hey, let's just kick the extra point here and then we'll start going for two whenever the overtime rules call for it. Yeah, I felt like I wanted to leave it on the field for our players to decide. You know, you have a feel for any game.

And you could argue, oh, the momentum's going Penn State's way. I think I had a couple guys come up to me and say, hey, coach, you can go for two here and finish it. That's what I was saying too in the stream room. I was yelling. I need two. need two. Yeah. Well, so in my mind, it's okay, what's our two-point play plan? And then what do we

think we'll see from them on defense? And then I'm always asking myself, okay, what's my percentage chance of we're going to have success on that. And if you saw that, like later on, we run our two-point play and they stop it. They picked it off. So I bet you guys then were like, oh, oh, thank God I didn't go for two. Oh, yeah. I was like, great call, great call, not going for two in the first. You know, ultimately, like, they stop our two-point conversion in the second overtime. But that's what I'm always saying if I felt like 100% we're scoring on the two point play, then yeah, maybe you do it there.

But I didn't have that feeling. They were really good defense. I didn't know exactly what we would see from them, you know, in that moment. So, and I felt like, hey, we're going to make this extra point, but I wanted to leave in our players' hands. And I wanted to give our defensive coaches an opportunity to have an answer. I felt like we had good answers on offense.

And at that point, at the end of game, I thought both defenses were struggling to figure it out. But I wanted to leave it in our players. hands and say, let's go to the second OT. We knew we were going to be moving away from their crowd on the second overtime. Like, not their crowd. They're still had a big crowd, but we're going to be moving away from their student section. It wasn't going to be quite as loud. That's the side of the field that I much rather have gone for two on rather than the side with their with their students, you know, down there. So there was a lot of factors went into

that, but we pretty quickly knew we were going to kick the extra point when that's all you need to tie the game and go to the second OT. The amount of awareness to know where the student section is and all the percentages is pretty impressive. Before we ask you the Bud Light question, or anything else we'll ask you. I just want to nail down how big of an environment that is at Penn State. Like everyone talks about it while we're watching the game. It's incredible to see like the sky camp showing the incredible whiteout. Like just talk, just give some flowers if you could,

the Penn State, the nitty lines, that fan base for how big time that stadium is, I can't read that. It, uh, the atmosphere you recognize the minute you drive in. You know, I think we're rolling in in a bunch of buses. And my wife sent me a picture yesterday. she's got all these fans flipping her off, you know, on the bus. Hell yeah. You're kicking the bus.

Like, you don't know what kind of fuel that is for, you know, a visiting team. How fun that is to be a part of. Like, as you're going in and people are banging on your bus. And you're driving through five minutes of RVs and tailgates. It's super impressive. And they did. They had a great, they had a great job. They were engaged the entire time.

It was a really elite atmosphere the entire game. One of the better ones I've been in for sure. What are the plans for the by week? What kind of time off? You're giving the boys? Like, what are you going to do? Maybe to check out for a moment of football, kind of get some sanity and some juice in your system somewhere.

It might be watching busting with the boys. Yeah, what are the – Yeah, what are the – Yeah, what are the plans? I binge watching some bust some of the boys. There's a lot of content. I had dinner with my family last night. It was awesome.

At my house. That was pretty cool. So, you know, try to get our coaches, you know, home at night to where they can spend some time with their family here, really Monday through Wednesday. We'll go out on the road recruiting Thursday, Friday. Saturday, I'm going to try to watch a couple games, and then Sunday, you know, we're right back at it. But our players need the recovery, but we also need to, you know, some growth.

We need to learn those lessons that we had in that game. So we're going to really do a hard self-scout of ourselves, evaluate, you know, what are some of our tendencies. Great teams have tendencies, figure out what we need to build off of those tendencies, and then evaluate some of these teams that are coming down the wire for us in the future with Indiana and some of the guys coming up of what are the answers that we need. We'll get some good practices in this week. So all those things will stack up. But biggest thing, I'm going to get to see my kids a little bit.

Probably go to a Little League football practice. Yes, sir. At some point, I get to watch my son. I think he has a game this week on Tuesday. I don't normally get to watch my son play Little League football. So I'm hoping Titan balls out this week and get to see him in action. The Titan looks up in the stands and Dan's just giving the cuts. Yeah, the cuts.

He was Jack, man. So he was there. He came, him and his, two of my sons didn't come. Caden had banned. and Niles didn't even watch the game. I got home yesterday. He was like, no,

I didn't watch the game, but Cade wants the game. But Niles went on the trip, or Titan went on the trip with me. So we rode the bus together afterwards. He was sitting with his mom, you know, in the stands, and he wanted to come down the field.

I was like, come down on the field. And he had a lot of fun, man. That's a lot of fun to share as a dad, those moments with your kid, when they love what you do. And, you know, it makes it pretty, special. When we were at your spot

during spring practice, your son was writing a three-part series to the Minecraft movie because he decided it was not good enough. It did not check the box for him. Can we get an update on how that script is going right now? Because I don't know if he's 12 or 13, but the level of focus

that child is 14. And is he looking for investors? Yeah, because we are, Buston with the boys is willing to invest in that child. I mean, just seeing the Lego, seeing his setup, how focused he was, on it's like, dude, this kid is going to be a Fortune 500 cat one day. Yeah. So we talked about last night, like greatest strength is creativity.

Greatest weakness. He doesn't finish. He's procrastinator. So like that Minecraft, he wrote like three quarters of the story. And I asked him last night, he's like, was that over with it? He's like, I haven't finished it yet. He started this. He does these stop action movies.

He made the most unbelievable stop action movie that stops right in the middle of the movie. I'm like, what happens in the, what happens? I just haven't finished you yet. So we got to work on my man being a finisher too. He's an unbelievable starter. We got to be able to be a finisher. He's the kind of guy that could start a company. Like, is he going to see it through?

Like, if you're going to make an investment in this guy, we've got to see it, get him to see it through. So this is a good challenge to Niles. I'll make sure he sees this clip. He's a visionary. We've got to be finishers. We can't just be starters. He's a visionary.

He's got to surround himself with the right people to get, you know, to get it over the finish line. He's got to take it from point C to D. He's going to get A and B started. Yeah. Sounds like me writing a paper in college is what he sounds like. Do you have any more questions? Do you want to hit with the Bud Light?

No, I'm excited about this Indiana matchup. I mean, you got Coach Aligning, all the hits that Coach of Lannning has. You got Signetti. Coachie Signetti's got a lot of good hits out there. This is not only a top 10 matchup, but this is a top 10 matchup on the mic, in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, Signetti's a shit talker. He sits in his press office.

He's like, Google me. I'm sure he's got a lot to say about Dan Laning. He's got a lot to say. People have to check it out next week on the locker room. But Dan, our bud-like question is, what is something in Dan Lennon's life that is easy to enjoy and something he will never get tired of?

What's something you will never get tired of? You're talking about, like, in my life, or are you talking about football specifically? Isn't it all the same? No. Okay. Let's do one of each, then. Call him A, column B.

I love going on a walk with my kids and my wife. We live with a really cool neighborhood and like this week we'll get in some night walks. Like we're just going to go go on a track. I'll put the music in my pocket and we'll just kind of talk about life. And that's something you can never take away for me. That's one of my favorite things. In some point these guys are going to be 18 and 20

and they're probably not going to want to go on walks with their dad or more. But it's like my favorite thing in the world to do is to say, let's go hit a night walk. You know, it's a little dark outside. You probably shouldn't be walking. But 9 p.m. we're just strolling around the neighborhood. you know, enjoying it and catching up with each other.

It's fun to envision. Like, I like my day in Lannning the way he was postgame against Penn State. Yeah. And seeing that guy try and check out for a walk, a nice little stroll with his family. Right, right. That's what I like to picture. Are you able to like, you know, he's probably, they're probably walking. You know, he's just.

Crying his teeth. Just thinking. Yeah. You're a son of a bitch that he said, what about me? I'm bossing with my fucking tongue. Yeah. I'd close a door with my hand, not my hip. I love it.

What about football? Football. And something you'll never get tired of. The answer is right in front of it. It's so easy. Is it? Winning. Yeah.

That's the answer. Winning. Winning, you never get tired of winning. Yeah, you never get tired of winning. But just being on the turf, being on the grass for me, like, that's why you sign up for it. Like, I'm excited about this walk through. We're about to go do. You know, we got one here in just in a little bit.

And excited to see these guys learn and like them kind of have those, oh, yeah, I see that moments. You know, like, you see what we see. all right, let's go attack this. Like, and that growth, when you start to see it show up in games, it's fun. I love it, man. Well, tell the boys that Will and Taylor say hello, we miss you, we appreciate you. Have a hell of the rest of the season, man.

Appreciate you guys, man. You guys are killing it. Keep it up. Coach Laney, how are the backers doing? How are the backers grade now? Like, how are my boys doing in that linebacker room? They're doing good, man. They're doing good.

But they're getting ball production, Will, which is something you got to be, you know, really satisfied with. Like, the ball is our oxygen. guys have been attacking the ball like crazy, which is, which is fun to see. I, listen, you know, I'm just a, I'm just a Joe now watching film. I'm just watching it live. I don't know what schematics are going on, but there's one play where I'm just, I'm screaming at Bryce Scruff. You got to see the pull-hood scrape when they're at like the goal line.

Oh, yeah, the deep red. It might not have been his job, but I'm putting it on two eight any chance I get. Every chance you get. Yeah. And he goes back, man. Put the team on his back and, uh, I know what play you're talking about. It wasn't necessarily his only responsibility there. but they had some good stuff, man.

Some really good answers from Penn State that we got to come up with good answers for ourselves. Oh, yeah, last thing. Sorry, we got, we paused because we just got a little card. We got breaking news. We got breaking news. Somebody and Dan Lennings' PR team said he's very jealous of the hats that we're wearing. And don't worry, we've sent you a bunch of these hats, Oregon hats.

The boys, they'll be with you very soon. I was about to throw my buss and hat on that. You guys had hooked me up before. and I was about to wear it in this morning, but I ran out of the house kind of too fast. So I'm looking forward to the gear coming our way, and you can trust I'll be rocking it. I love it.

And also thank you guys, too, for just working with the boys, like getting to put the logo and stuff. It's really cool. It's a big time by you guys. Thank you. Absolutely, man. We take care of who takes care of us. Appreciate you guys.

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