Bussin' With The Boys - Dan Lanning Opens Up About Ohio State Loss & Oregon's CFP Goals + Nico Iamaleava UCLA Rumor Reaction

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Recorded: April 9th, 2025 This week, Will Compton and Taylor Lewan travel to Eugene, Oregon, to sit down with Dan Lanning. The Oregon Ducks head coach invited The Boys on campus for an all-time look i...nside his program and delivered an absolutely epic interview. Will and Taylor start the pod off with an intro reacting to Michael Chandler’s loss to Paddy “The Baddy” Pimblett at UFC 314, Rory McIlroy’s victory at The Masters, and Nico Iamaleava transferring from Tennessee. Then we kick it over to Dan Lanning. Coach Lanning talks about everything—from bringing elite talent to Eugene and building a winning culture with NIL, to his mindset heading into the Ohio State game, and the Ducks’ College Football Playoff preparation. He dives into his coaching journey, how he teaches players to manage money, and even shares his biggest personal splurge (spoiler: it’s got four wheels). The Boys touch on trash talk, freshmen joining Oregon’s roster mid-year, and what it’s like competing in the Big Ten. Dan opens up about balancing football with family life, his favorite movies and games, and who he’d spend a day with outside of football. Plus, he reveals whether the NFL is in his future and throws down on some iconic Bussin’ segments like Bet The Bus and Ro Spicy. One of the most well-rounded, insightful, and straight-up fun convos we’ve had with a head coach—don’t miss it. Make sure to like, subscribe, and—as always—BIG HUGS and TEENY TINY KISSES! Also, be sure to check out BWTB.com for all our new merch! TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro6:34 UFC 31425:33 The Masters 37:16 The Vols vs. Nico 56:04 Oregon Spring Tour1:05:17 Shoutout No Free Shoutout OTW1:11:14 DAN LANNING INTERVIEW STARTS1:11:53 Getting Guys To Oregon 1:15:33 Establishing Culture With NIL1:18:11 Preparing For CFP/Mental State During Ohio State Game1:22:43 Does He Wish He Can Talk Trash In The Media?1:24:15 Coach Lanning’s Coaching Journey1:28:46 Teaching Players How To Handle Money1:30:35 Coaches Biggest Money Splurge 1:33:30 The Boys Love Oregon1:43:00 Dealing With Freshmen Coming In Mid-Year1:43:56 Getting Comfortable Talking In Front Of The Team1:44:47 12 Players On The Field vs Ohio State 1:50:39 First Year In Big 101:54:25 What Coach Would He Spend A Day With Outside Of Football?1:55:45 Balancing Football And Family1:56:53 Movies/Shows/Video Games Talk 2:02:18 Coach Was A Big Fan Of Bet The Bus 2:04:52 Ro Spicy Tier Talk2:11:05 Bud Light: What Would You Do Anything For?2:12:47 Would He Want To Coach In The NFL?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 In this podcast, we're going to break down all of UFC 314. Obviously, we had Patty Pimlet, do what he did to our boy, Mike Chandler. We love him to death. We're always going to love Mike, but what happens, happens. You can't hide from the film.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Shout out John Silva. John Silva. We'll break all that down too. Volk Lopez. What a fight. Volk showing that age is just a number. Dude, that ain't nothing to him. But we have the NBA play-in tournament.
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Starting point is 00:05:28 Like he's so about the boys that it's like, is that gonna get in the way of the work? But you want people who come in and work for the brand. Who want to die for the brand. Be about the boys. I get it. And they know the background, the history, everything about it to where they know what they're looking for when creating for it.
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Starting point is 00:05:55 with a sawed-up shotgun and they pumped two into us. So there's always that little back and forth, right? Now, for the NBA tournament plan. I was about to say. 6.30, Hawks versus Magic. That is tomorrow. 9 p.m. Grizzlies versus the Warriors.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Wednesday, we're going to have the heat versus the bulls at 6.30 and at 9 we're going to have the Mazz versus the Kings. Now, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know basketball because I really do not know basketball. You're not JJ Redick. I'm not JJ Reddick. I will say, however, give me the Kings over the Mavs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I'll say, give me the Kings over the Mazz. I don't know if it was a Jason kid. Was he the, is he the head coach? He's the head coach. And he came out saying, oh, yeah, people are talking about the trade. They're comparing it to the great Bambino, saying like it's, so that's pretty cool. Buddy.
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Starting point is 00:06:59 that is just insane to me. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. On the basketball course. Do you want to, we want to rip the band-aid off with UFC 314? Yeah, I mean, you can't,
Starting point is 00:07:08 nothing you can hide from. Right. He got dominated that fight. Patty Pimbleet looked incredible. He looked poised for the moment. He looks like he's in a great time situation for how that weight class looks a little aged, but he did.
Starting point is 00:07:23 It's like if you look at all of Mike's fights against all these top ranked opponents, Patty Pimbled has looked the best against Michael Chandler. Yeah. It was tough, man. It was tough to watch because that's like, that's our boy.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, it's our guy. It's like Missouri boy. He's like brother to us and you're just, you're nervous for him for the fight. You see Bree, his wife and his son half walking in the arena with him. Like you're fired up, but your juices are flowing.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It like reminds me of when I was watching Cody back with all of his big wrestling matches. You're like, you're just nervous. You're like moving with the screen. You want to be in there with them. And there's a level of guilt that I have too because, oh, we're obviously in the middle
Starting point is 00:07:56 of spring tour right now. We just went to Oregon. We're going to Michigan tomorrow. And like we had this small little time with the family. But even on Saturday morning, telling us we should be in Miami right now to be supporting the Chandler's. And so you just don't want your boy to ever go to war alone.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And I just watching him walk out like, Patty Pimlet, when he walked out of the tunnel, look loose, look ready to go. Like he was just having a good time. Being like his charismatic self. that people love him for and also hate him for. But then as soon as he gets in the octagon, it's like he's doing the Alex Pereira Staredown.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He seems so locked into the moment when he's had that big gap between fights. And it just, yeah, he just seemed like he was more prepared. Seemed like he had a better game plan and he seemed like he executed that game plan just a little bit better. It sucks saying about your boy. But you got to look at the film and realize and Mike would be sitting here right now saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:45 You know, Mike doesn't shy away from the truth ever. And that just, it's unfortunate, it, but it is also the reality we're living in right now. So you just wonder, like, what's, what's next for Mike? The most heartbreaking part of the fight was when Mike, I don't know which round it was, but he goes back to his corner. They're like, Mike, you got to start going side to side, get out of the way. Right. So I'm going straight ahead. And he's like, I can't, I can't find the distance. I can't get close. And so then it goes over to Patty's corner and Patty's coaches say, hey, he's going slow. He's going slow. And you just hear Patty go, yeah, he's a bit old.
Starting point is 00:09:19 isn't he and then it and then it cuts away i was like oh my gosh i didn't even hear that yeah he looked good man like i i've enjoyed watching patty like when he came into the ufc like all of his fights he's somebody that's like a a superstar in the media too because he has that incredible accent um but i've always enjoyed following him but he was on that night bro i don't know he was on he was in flow i would have loved to see him against anybody in the division that night yeah just because it feels like he's you win prime for that stage and you're going to get to see if his skill set will carry over because you would assume he's going to get a big opportunity in his next fight. Yeah. I just, yeah, one, I didn't hear that sound by. Like, when I'm watching
Starting point is 00:09:56 this fight, I'm in my, my, my, that room right, a big couch. I'm kind of like, I'm walking around. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, look in. I'm trying to like move with him. I'm like so invested in it and Taylor's just sitting on the couch. Like, oh, they're chill on our phone. I'm just like, it's tough, man. I wonder too, and this is just full speculation on my end, because seeing Mike's knee in the fight in December and then to. fight in April, it all seems so fast to me for somebody his age that, I mean, I would never make excuse. He would never make an excuse. But I am curious about like his body. And if he was 100% or he just really couldn't find the distance because we didn't see any of the explosiveness
Starting point is 00:10:34 that you usually see in the mic fights. Right. Because when he's sitting in the like the pre-fight press conferences, he's like, I'm going to find that chin. I'm going to find it fast. I'm thinking to myself like, okay, this is going to be different to the Oliver fight. Yeah. And he kind of came out similar to the Oliver fight where he's like playing them more in a defensive stance right and you know he gets a couple of good takedowns he does the whole body throws him to the ground it's like all right and i know that boy can wrestle too and it just didn't it just didn't seem like he'd find a flow in that fight and obviously we're not fighters we don't necessarily know the ins and outs but he just seemed uncomfortable yeah in the octagon last thing for me on mike where he does need his
Starting point is 00:11:10 credit it the way that he's able to defend on the ground is so insane to me like i cannot believe leave Patty didn't tap him out. And the last two fights, this was Olivera, too. It's like he's in his bad situations and he just gets out of it. Every single time. Oh, Mike's giving up his back. And it's like, he's the only fighter that can just roll over. Everybody else is going to get tapped out, but he
Starting point is 00:11:31 can roll over, give up his back and he knows he's going to be fine. Which is so crazy skill. Yeah. My question too, because again, I have no clue. Like, I know some surface level stuff. But when he's mounted and gives up his back, it's like, what else can you do in that situation? Because a dude
Starting point is 00:11:47 was throwing, starting to throw bombs on him. Yeah. And you're, you're defending, like, the only thing, like, it's like, I think the only thing you can do is just roll to the other side, unless you can get some bridge that kind of bounces them off. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it's just, it's just tough. It was hard, man. And it sucks, too, because the octagon, it's like, it's one-on-one. And when that's happening, and obviously, you got all the external noise, everybody commenting on the fight and everything else. but when you lose in the octagon, bro, it has to be such like a lonely feeling, whatever your conversation is with yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:21 You know what I mean? Because it's like, I'll shoot him a text. Brother, I love you. Keep your fucking head up. You kind of don't know what to say and you know everybody's going to be texting him, but it's, you know as a competitor, like when you just had a bad showing,
Starting point is 00:12:32 like you don't care to hear about any of the noise, anything else. You're just so disappointed in how it unfolded. Yeah. Yeah. And you're your own harshest critic too. Yeah. Like you walk in and immediately, I mean, I don't know where his mental state was after, right after the fight, he got beat up pretty good. But like you're literally replaying the fight over and over and over in your head.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Like, I could have done this different and that different. And everyone's going to have like, you know, the big broad statements of you lost and you lost them this way. But he's probably looking at every single detail being like, I know exactly where I went wrong. It's so easy to fix those problems after in fact. Yeah. And it's just tough, man. Don't write them off, though. Don't write them off.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Don't let him off. Chale Sutton. The captain, Patty, though. After all the fights and everything, Chale Sutton, you know, there was a lot of back and forth of like, was that last time we seen Michael Chandler? Obviously, Mike's the one that made that decision, but Chal Sutton's like, they rushed him out of the octagon pretty fast.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I'm thinking it was a medical thing. Right. But Chal's like, if this is the last time we see Michael Chandler, you would have hoped, you know, to give him the credit he deserves. I have no idea if that's his last fight. I have no shot. As a fan, no shot, that's his last fight. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:36 From the business aspect, where would he go from here? I don't know. That's something I, that's Hunter. You know what I mean? Because he's, yeah, Hunter. He's been in the fights. Tell us.
Starting point is 00:13:45 What's he going to do next? He's been in the fights with like top five guys to where he's kind of always set up or positioned well. Like if he comes out on top, he'll have like a better shot at potentially going after the belt. But now that he's dropped a few and especially in the fashion that he did against Patty, it's almost like where would he go that even at his age two would even be worth it for him. Yeah. You know what I mean? How do you position him?
Starting point is 00:14:06 How do you like for Dana or Hunter like sell him at a medical? in a fight where it's like yeah but he keeps losing like right like even for mike too it's like you know being realistic about where the category might be to where you fight next at his age and what he's already accomplished like what is even worth going back into the octagon someone asked dana and he was like you know like no matter what fight it is who he's fighting like he's gonna show out yeah so like Dana obviously believes in him so like there is that good thing that mike's a showman and always puts on. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But having him on the bus, knowing what he puts into it and knowing the sacrifice now that his family's bigger and everything else, he's going to put on a show, but to put on that show, you have to go in this space mentally
Starting point is 00:14:51 for eight to 12 weeks that he always does. It's like even as Mike sitting there again, I'm sure he'll be on the bus at some point, but at that point, at that point, what becomes worth it to put on that type of show? If you're not going to be getting
Starting point is 00:15:02 a shot that's kind of close in that realm, because now he's gone through enough fights to where I don't know where he'll be ranked, but would he even get a shot against an opponent that he feels like so worthy opponent. And just from like, from Dana's statement of being like, hey, every fight we put him in, it's an absolute show.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Like this fight we looked at, this was not a performance of like Mike Chandler where you were like, holy, like, you can see the victories, like the Oliver fight. Like he lost those first four rounds and then came back in that fifth round and he won that fifth round, however it was too far gone by that point.
Starting point is 00:15:31 But at the end when he's doing, you know, landing him on his back and he's like, showing something like, yo, this is why you watch a Michael Chandler fight. Objectively speaking, There was nothing in that fight where you were like, this is why you watch a Michael Chandler fight. And so something just seemed like maybe it was the name.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Maybe it was something mental. But like something was definitely off with Mike. Yeah. In the lightweight division, I think a fun fight would be Fiziev. They wouldn't be like main events, but it would be on a pay-per-view and it would be in the main card.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And Fizzeev is still good. Like he's a fun, exciting fighter that has quality losses and quality wins, which I think it would be a banger fight. You know, I'm getting sick of? Connor McGregor. I'm getting sick. I'm interested in the Patty Pym.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Like, Bo, you just said, you just said you're running for like Ireland's president, whatever y'all have over there. I think he's got a gambling sponsor. Yeah, he does. Yeah, yeah. Patty, Patty probably don't want to fight Connor. He's got bigger things. I wonder who Patty's going to go against sex.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Again. Teporee, right? He wants to fight Teporia. But I don't know, man. I think he, I would love to see him fight Dustin Poree, even though the big thing is Dustin versus Justin right now. Yeah. But I think Dustin Porriere, like in his last fight,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I feel like Porriere would want it because to put the gloves down after beating the guy that the UFC is trying to push to the title would be the ultimate Dustin Porriere ending to his story. Yeah. He's like he never really got that unified belt, but he for sure isn't going to let some new guy step over him to go get it. Right. And he's on how much winning streak?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Eight fight win street? He dismantled a guy from France last year in Miami. Dismantled him. Because I know our bias on the bus, it's like something could be off with Mike, but I don't want it to take away from how good of a performance Patty had. Yeah, Patty was incredible. Because I am excited to see who he might get paired up with next
Starting point is 00:17:25 because he looked good, man. He looked in shape. He didn't, you know, he was doing interviews before the fight on the whole. Fatty, Patty, Patty. And if he took his minimal day, like maybe we see him quickly. Yeah. Yeah. His accent.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He's got to have. Justin, Justin. Yeah. I was going to ask JP, was that Patty's, like, typical weight class that he fights in? Because he looked massive. He did look big, bro. He looked good. He looked crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah. Those rows too. Yeah. And how long? He hadn't fought in, what, two years, was it? Yeah, two years. And he didn't blow up the way he has in the past. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Because what they're talking about is the whole fatty. He's got his family. He's not. Patty the fatty. Yeah. And who knows if in his mind he knows he's at, this is a moment to where he could capitalize and maybe his focus is just on a difference. He's 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:18:09 The post press conference, like he was like everything's all about timing and Patty seems like he's finding the timing right now. Because you watch that fight and because people were saying Patty's like it's like a gimmick. It's all like it's no one was taking Patty seriously but after that fight you take him seriously because it is, it was impressive.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. Me's 30 years old so you got to figure like these next three years, three to four years is that's when you have to go all in. You got to go. You have to lock in. Right. John Silva, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Dude, I love that fucking guy. He is incredible. Hey, when he's next to Bruce Buffer just starts barking in the mind. Yeah, barking in the mind. This dude's a psycho. And then he's barking at every chance he gets. And then when he chokes buddy out, Bryce Mitchell out.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And dude's like eyes open, unconscious and he's standing over and barking him. Like, you know, that is old testament. Dude was convulsing. Savage, yeah. He choked him out so fast too. Like he, he was like playing around with him. It seemed like in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Well, even in the first round, like, smiling. Yeah. walked out that he's talking shit he's moving away from all the punches like also taking minimal damage and just fucked buddy up four straight finishes and he i guess this dude i sible was like begging for this fight got the fight it was basically i'm gonna kill this guy when we get in the ring and it looks so easy the moment seemed way too big for brys mitchell like Bryce felt the pressure that silver was like coming in relax like a man on a mission he's probably created for himself
Starting point is 00:19:29 with all yeah he said some dumb shit sent some stupid shit you saw uh you saw Dave Dave Portnoy out there. Yes. That is all fucking time. Just screaming at him a Nazi. That is crazy. The corner looks back at him. He's like, you're a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, but Bryce, he made his bed and Silva put him to sleep in it. Hey, JP, is Silva? I was seeing too, it's like Bryce Mitchell was ranked like 11th or something like that. Like is Silva not ranked? Yeah, I don't think he is ranked. That was his first time fighting another ranked fighter. or fighting a ranked fighter, but he's going to be ranked now
Starting point is 00:20:07 because it's three fights before this, he won them all by knockout. And now he gets this submission. Dude, he looked good, man. He looks amazing. Insanely confident, relaxed, smiling. Flow. It just looks slow.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He's going to beat him. Yeah. It seemed like he was sparring. Just having a good time. He was practicing out there on Bryce Mitchell. On the, on Fandil, I had Silva for a K.O.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Or TKO in every round because the odds were awesome. Yeah. And every time he got closer submitting, I'm like, no, no, fucking... Dude, I had the, I had Silva in every round to win in that round. You did it smarter. Yeah, I did. You did it. I got them plus 500 in the second round.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Taylor, so it was me, Taylor and Clay, we were texting the group check, kind of how some of these fights would go. Talking about what bets we're going to put in, Sean off fendel. And after the first round, it was like, Silva to win in round one, Silva to win in round two, all the way through. And it was like plus 300, 500, 700, 700. And Silva has the performance that he does in the first round. in the group chat thinking if he just wins the first round like by points yeah that's what I thought it was a plus 300 odds just to win the first round like hey you guys thought he won that right like he thought he and then will will bring my attention that hey it's to win like it's over in that
Starting point is 00:21:19 round yeah he ends in the because i thought i was i was hit a less little plus 300 right there i'm like the favorite to win the app to see my settled bets like hey got him favorite to win by points in the first round plus 300 wouldn't that be nuts yeah but he when he won in the second i was kind of I hope it'll go to the third. I mean, look at this dude, just barking over him. Buddy is compulsing. Barking. And he put the, what they call fight nerds?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Quick. What are they called fight nerds? What's that? The glasses after the fight. Oh, yeah. There's a group of them that all wear the glasses with the little thing in the, yeah, in the middle. But yeah, dude, he was incredible.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And then Vulcan Lopez. I didn't even, I'll be honest. I didn't watch the fight. But real quick, the Yari Pit Bull fight. Yeah, I and Rodriguez looked nice. Oh, he looked insane. And Pitbull came. over from Bellator or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And the moment was way too big. Way too big. Those lights turned on and he got stiff. But just the size difference and seeing Rodriguez throw those kicks, it's like, because Taylor before the fight, he's like, hey, I'm sprinkling someone on Pitbull. Yeah. And then when they both started, I haven't seen either of them fight, but when they both started and Rodriguez was throwing those kicks, I'm like, Taylor took this little catch.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. There's Clay's in there like, I like pit bull's punches, blah, blah, but I hear he can kick and I'm thinking, I'll just do his pit bull guy. He's way too fast. No idea what the guys even looked like. Bro. Yeah, here comes in. He's fun.
Starting point is 00:22:32 This dude, he looked like he was. Why? He is insanely tall. He's just towering over this cat and he was fluid, man. Yeah. He's like a rubber band out there. The way he was kicking, he was smooth. But he just put that kid apart. But the main event, Volk and Lopez.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And we were talking last week about, hey, because we've seen Lopez at the sphere and he was nice. He was like kind of, whoever he fought before, he like crushed him. And then this fight's like, Volk's getting old. Lopez, he might be the up-and-comer guy. This is a championship. Whoever wins this gets the belt. Volk looked nasty he looked like the age was nothing to him
Starting point is 00:23:08 like nothing dude I think it was so cool because Diego did get better as the fight went on a little bit but it just shows the difference that experience makes for these guys because Diego just kind of flies around out there throws so fast kind of throws wild throws these weird like
Starting point is 00:23:25 yeah like paw punches and you can see Volk most other fighters Diego probably beats but Volk just understands the moment and knows how to fight. And it was just, man, it made me so happy. Because Volk's one of my favorite fighters and to see him just do his thing.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He almost got rattled a few times. He did get rattled a couple times. I mean, he was stepping backwards when he got banked that one time and went to the ground. But like those first, what, two and a half, three rounds,
Starting point is 00:23:51 like Volk was owning Lopez and throwing shots that like, shout out Lopez's chin. Yeah. He was taking some crazy shots and would not go down. Because I did the same thing, Volk to win in round one, two, three, four, five. and didn't do the decision.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And after that first round, I said, they're like, oh, yeah, this is another solid fucking bet. Yeah. And sure enough, dude,
Starting point is 00:24:10 he just kept standing there and then he just, he started to get vocal a little bit. Like, if that was seven rounds, right. I mean, Lopez probably comes out
Starting point is 00:24:18 and wins that thing. Or he starts in the third. Yeah. He starts that winning the first. Like Lopez probably wins. Dude. Because he's just taking shots in the face and eating them
Starting point is 00:24:27 and moving forward. It was crazy. At the end, though, and he's like telling Volta, standing in the middle and swing with them. It's like, why would he ever do that?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Are you thinking about what Max Homa? Yeah. Holloway. Holloway. I'm thinking of Homa is the ball of golfer, but Max Holloway, they stand there in the middle and go toes and engage you.
Starting point is 00:24:46 But if I'm Volk, I'm like, fuck that. And Vogue did, he was like, he like pointed and then he just kind of kept going right. Yeah. Toied with him a little bit. And I loved Vulke's post-game press conference. Like adversity is a gift. Privilege.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That was a fucking bar, man. Yeah, he did. He was talking. Him and Adasanya give like the best post-fight press conference. And that Australian accent too. He says it and you're just kind of like, it just means a little bit more with that accent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It means a little bit more. Great card. Great card. I know. Yeah, I was trying to hit the reverse psychology with that Lopez, that Lopez tweet saying like, oh, he's got a cement chin hoping the next round he get binked. But yeah, ma'am. Should we, uh, we feel good about UFC?
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Starting point is 00:25:56 Let's get back to this episode. Let's move it forward. Let's get Jack McPherson on the mic. We got to talk about some college football. Do we want to, by the time we go to the weekend, do we want to touch on the Masters? What a win. I mean, that was nuts, man.
Starting point is 00:26:09 What a win for Roy McElroy. It was fun to watch. Like, knowing that I watched golf like one day of year, one day of the year. And it's always the championship of the Masters. And knowing the storylines going into it's like you got him and Bryson paired up. You got some guys who's going to finish in the top 10. Shout out Homa.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Shout out Homa. Shout out Homa just being in the run, especially the way you're in the mix. Yeah, being in the mix. But it's like Rory. all this stuff about him choking. And again, that last round was a bunch, was a lot of roller coasters.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Even that last put in the last hole. I mean, the first hole yesterday, Rory doubles, Bryson Pars. Now they're even. Yeah. Just like that out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Out of the gate. Starts up minus 12 and then goes to minus 10 quick. Oh yeah. I walked away from the TV for one second. They're on hole four. And it's like four different things have changed Roy's back to like 12 or 11 under. Bryson's at nine. And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:27:00 okay, we're in one. Yeah. And then coming out of the weeds, Justin Rose. Justin Rose. How did he start off the day? Well, was he at minus five or six? Yeah, he was like six back.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And we were talking about it last week, but there's only been four people to ever win the Masters after leading the first day. And when he started coming back, I was like, no shit. Like, here we go. I kind of forgot about him. But Rory showed a lot of composure that I don't think he's gotten the better side of. in recent matches and like years. And for him to battle the adversity,
Starting point is 00:27:37 know the pairing with Bryson is just like added tension. The fans love Bryson. So like if it comes down the stretch, which side are they going to pull for in the crowd? Like are they going to be like, Bryson's a showman, like he's balling, let's go. Or are they going to side with Rory,
Starting point is 00:27:52 who's going for the career grand slam? It felt like he had a lot of the crowd, bro. They were hype. Once Bryson started falling off, everyone was like, okay, we understand the assignment. Yeah. We got to get Rory to this finish. Because even again, he had moments where I forget what hole was
Starting point is 00:28:07 where he goes in the bunker. And again, I want to say I had a tweet like he should be going full happy Gilmore because you could tell he was very pissed at himself that he had that shot. But it's like all the external noise of choking that weighs in on those high pressure moments for him to win that story this time. Yeah. And two, it's like Justin Rose. He finished like, what was it two holes before Rory got done?
Starting point is 00:28:27 And hit a massive put to sit at my mind. Minus 10. Minus 11. Minus 11. And it was, Rory was ahead there. And it was just like his match to kind of fuck up or to lose.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And he got down to where he ends up, you know, missing that two putting at the end. Oh, yeah. And going into that playoff to where Justin kind of has all the momentum. Yeah. And they come out on top
Starting point is 00:28:46 and witness that moment when he does hit it. He starts crying. He starts walking, everybody cheering for him. Oh, yeah. Embraces the family. You were talking about like standing up
Starting point is 00:28:54 watching the fights, like in your living room. The nerves I felt for Rory hitting the first. put on 18 to potentially win outright was like my hands were shaking dude how do you stand first of how do you pipe one down the fairway hit it into the bunker and yeah have to walk to the bunker going all right I know I can hit this shot there's plenty of room I have a great lie but then for the ball to kind of check up a little bit like it did not get as close to the hole
Starting point is 00:29:24 as you would like it to to leave still a great shot out of the bunker great just like the scariest six foot pud of all time, or however long it was. I know, dude. Standing over that, I would throw up. I'm not gonna die down. But my legs would be shaking. Because I popped it on when he was walking to the bunker after that bunker shot.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And then I'm realizing how close of a match this is. And when he pops it up, I'm thinking about how would I, how do I feel right now in my living room watching this? How I can't imagine how he feels. And when he misses and that pans over to Rose, who's just on the green and he just goes up to his cat and he goes like kind of like
Starting point is 00:30:02 let's fucking do this taps it in and they go I'm getting goosebumps right now because I'm sitting there like you guys know my like stands on golf I'm not like a huge golf guy the outfits the all that
Starting point is 00:30:13 this moment was massive watching them both the top of the T-box at 18 being like whoever wins this hole wins the masters gets this jacket I'm usually I'm a green jacket gold jacket who gives a shit type of guy
Starting point is 00:30:24 but in this moment I'm thinking we gotta get this green fucking jacket going the fan dual sports sportsbook gap, rip over a Roy. That was a great play for you. I took Justin Rose. And so, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Week him. But hey. Hey, buddy, I didn't hit on one bet. That prevailed Roy to win. So Will's, to Will's, uh, bet, like, just that thought process is, I had the same thing go from my head, like, okay, Roy just missed this put to win the masters. And I'm seeing all these things about him, like, kind of choking a little bit. Maybe it is Justin Rose's time.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But then I just saw the odds. I just saw the odds minus 140. I was like, let me just go with Rory. I know the name more than I know roses. So I'm just going to go with Roy and end up working out Rose is a legend he's been around forever Yeah but it sucks that he's always the brides made and never the bride For sure
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like just brutal I just pulled it up for that point exactly He did take home $2.3 million To come in second but Yeah but Hey do you see uh I don't know that's a good question Josh Allen people who go to the masters like Caitlin Clark was talking about She was doing an interview saying how that's the coolest event
Starting point is 00:31:22 Because of how unique it is It's just how many people are sitting around every hole especially that last shot in the moment because nobody can have phones. Like everybody's just in the moment. It's quiet. You see the crowd erupt after or they get upset when the, you know, their guy misses a shot. It has to be so sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And the pressure that these guys feel. We got to go one day next year. Gotta go. Yeah. That would be wild. Can't document anything, which to your point is awesome. But for our sake would be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 For the business, not great. But I do think that makes it, that would be that much more just special like as a roof we go or if when our kids get old enough you take them you see like these parents who take their kids and just the the lure of golf oh yeah in those high stakes moment it's like there there can be i think i'm confident up to say that i don't think there's a high pressure moment that would match the masters like on the last hole like that that rory and those guys are feeling on the last hole any moment in any sport let me just pop one out it's you versus you it's you versus you what about it really is for four days fourth quarter two seconds of the clock 35 yard line you got to kick a field
Starting point is 00:32:27 to win the Super Bowl. Maybe for the kicker. I mean, that's got to be, that's right. You're always too. Yeah. Yeah, they're not like yelling while you're putting. You imagine. But there's part of me that thinks the silence with that many people around.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Definitely. Would almost be a little bit more. You start. Yeah, yeah. I bet you hear your heartbeat in that moment. Yeah, for the kicker. And also, hey, like, if you have a massive bet on, right, and you got Rose, and you took them in the, before the thing you even started,
Starting point is 00:32:56 and he could win it. And you're in that crowd. Exactly. Why not just hit a, Jackass? And also the field goes massive. Like, why not? The field goes massive,
Starting point is 00:33:06 like finding the line in that little ass hole, bro. It's crazy. I did hit a crazy bet. Pick Rory to win on before they started the tournament. And then we pick, did you get in on it with the top fives? No.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Scotty to finish top five, Roy to finish top five, Bryson to finish top five. And then love. Ludwig Auburg to finish top 10. Patrick Reed hits a hole in one on 16 to bump Bryson to six. And Lovevig's in top five and I'm like no fucking way this is going to happen. Ludwig triples 18 to fall just enough to bump Bryson back up to five and him to finish in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:33:47 So you hit. Oh yeah. Don, let's go. That's a bet right there. That's emotion. That's emotion. That one that's skipped in the hole. Yeah. That was nuts.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And he didn't even know it went in the top. hole. They like bounced and went straight into the cup. No shit. Yeah. Dude. He's like sitting there. Auburn cost some $560,000. The what? The triple they had on 18. Auburg, it cost some 500 grand. Hey, think about Rory too. Not only a green jacket, but there's a nice payday. Nice payday. Think about the endorsements. They're going to come as well. That's true too. Like with the Nike video though, with the kicker thing, like there's not those
Starting point is 00:34:21 financials in play too. I don't even know if they're thinking about it. They might be, but incentives would be like the closest. Yeah. Would you be thinking, did you ever have incentives at all when you played? No. Hell of you. And so guys. Why? Yeah, guys never, I mean, I guess guys think about it like week 17 or week 18 when there were 17 games.
Starting point is 00:34:38 They were like, hey, I need three catches. You see Gronk. He like needed one more in a couple of yards, right? And Brady, like, kind of give him a little flat route. But I think when it comes to those moments in sports, no one's thinking about money. Not the first. You're thinking about it. You're thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Exactly. Or when you have nothing to do, you're like, hey, maybe if I can get to 18 from me. If you're in the middle of that triple bogey, there's like, after you miss a second one, you're like, fuck, I'm losing money at this.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know you're kind of out of it. Well, especially, because in golf, you can be like a soul, you can hold a sole position in the leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So you could be like sole seventh. But if you drop a stroke, you're tied for eighth with like 10 people. And then the money split is just so, the split's disgusting, I bet. But shout out,
Starting point is 00:35:21 Rory. That's amazing. Rory's dinner is about to be so mid next year, though. bro, someone's got to get it at Irish dinner Arizona and get him on Zips if he can just have those wings, man.
Starting point is 00:35:33 By the way, Zip's DM me on Instagram. Let's go. Nice. Appreciate you shouting out Zips, blah, blah, blah. He's setting all, Zips is sending us all like shirts and stuff like that. We need a gift card, man.
Starting point is 00:35:45 For real. What's that? Zipoffs. Nice, I see you with that. I had one more thing. Oh, dude. So for whatever reason I put that, bed in and then all of a sudden my algorithm goes to golf all the rest of yesterday and learning about
Starting point is 00:36:01 the masters and how they operate how they don't have you know like the Mercedes Ben's 15th hole or all this they keep everything so pure they're essentially walking away from hundreds of millions of dollars like even with like the product they make sure everything goes into the production of it no phones the food's like a dollar 65 for a turkey sandwich like yeah that shit is awesome that is so cool how they keep like the purity of golf in that and everyone who goes it's like Like it still exceeds their high expectations. Right. Well, they make like, what is it, like a million dollars every hour in the pro shop.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So that's how they make all their money back because that's the only spot you can get master's gears in that pro shop. That's not online. No way. So they make all their money on that. That is cool. That is cool. Buy like thousands of dollars worth and then go resell it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, I saw the tickets themselves. Like when you buy the tickets like four and $450 or $500 or like a couple of days. Like a couple of days. Yeah. Reselling is like $10,000. dollars no shit which is just crazy yeah we're going i got to go to the women's amateur it's like the super bowl tickets yeah yeah oh i got to go we never did we never did that to the women's amateur last year and the store opens during the women's amator for the masters
Starting point is 00:37:12 so we're walking in break of dawn like 630 and there are hundreds of people sprinting past us with gardening noms like masters branded gardening noms so that they can resell it it online. And we get into the store and the line was already three hours long. And like the Masters tournament hasn't even started. It's not even the practice rounds. The women's amateur. You have a three hour line for the shot.
Starting point is 00:37:40 It's nuts. That is crazy. That is nuts. Yeah, another big story of the weekend. College football. Nico. Yeah, which one do we want to hit? Let's just hit them after.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We get him after and then just plug them in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. Let's do that. Nobody is bigger than the team. Nobody is bigger than the team. Nobody. Just a round of applause. Literally shout out Josh Hypole. Nico I.M. Lela is a absolute coward.
Starting point is 00:38:11 He's ruining the game. I hate NIL now, but I understand it's a business. But to have the season you did and to get your dick kicked in against Ohio State in the playoffs and then to ask for $4 million a year and not to be showing up to spring practices. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:39:08 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. I'm so glad the way that Tennessee handled this and to not even address it or not even to acknowledge it and to just dismiss Nico from the team.
Starting point is 00:39:36 It says a lot. It was awesome to see like the support across Twitter throughout the nation. Everyone kind of taking Josh Heppel's back because we're just in this Wild West era of like these kids who want more money and they want more everything. but they're not putting it on paper. They're not winning the games you need them to. I couldn't be happier. We are in a pickle. We have two quarterbacks on our roster right now,
Starting point is 00:39:59 Jake Merklinger and what's it, George McIntyre, who are both very inexperienced quarterbacks, but we also have a guy coming in, which doesn't help us this year, but 2026, Faison Brandon, who's the number one prospect in all of college football, who's committed to Tennessee. That's like a positive, but, what Tennessee football needs to do is pick up someone in the transfer portal who's an experienced quarterback who can come in
Starting point is 00:40:25 and make these other two kids, McIntyre and Merklinger, like fight for it and also learn behind them. And then we also have this kid coming in in 2026. So I'm hoping we get a veteran experience guy in the portal. Obviously, we don't want them coming in the SEC because you can't, you'll have to sit a year if you transfer in your conference. But I'm so happy the way that Tennessee handled this situation. It was chaotic. I was in Knoxville this weekend for a wedding, so it felt like it was even closer to home. But everyone seems like they're on it. I mean, even Tony Vitello had an interview after one of their games yesterday. They played Ole Miss. And he was saying,
Starting point is 00:41:03 whether it's football or baseball or basketball, don't come to this university asking for handouts. He goes, that's not what we're about. And so like just across the board, everyone has the support of, of Hypo. And I bet Nico will probably go to the West Coast because that's where he's from he's from California but man it fired me up too hearing about coach landing where we just were he apparently the rumors were spreading that he warned hypo that that the Nico is reaching out to a bunch of people and trying to get offers and feel the water so to hear that there's some coaches out there who still believe in the game um it was a good feeling I thought it was a while too did you see uh Josh Pate's clip he was doing a show and he was talking like there's Tennessee guys like
Starting point is 00:41:46 Nico being one of them, who are leveraging, trying to leverage, hey, they're playing extra games in the playoffs, so they want more money because the structures that they currently have is like 12. You might play a conference title. But then going into the playoffs, there were players coming in trying to leverage that to say they should be getting paid more per game. That's why we didn't go to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah. That's why we didn't go to playoff. Hey, shout out, Tennessee. I'm a hard up. It feels good to be a fan just for Hypo to just stand on business and say this is not about financials. It obviously is, and it will always be an aspect of the game now that we're in this NIL era. But for him to just completely shut down, our, NICO was the highest paid NIL athlete ever, as of right now.
Starting point is 00:42:26 They gave him $8 million for four years. They're giving him $2.4 million a year, and he wants $4 million now. I just don't think it's a good look, too, for your future. For the future of your college career, going into the pros, it just shows that you're difficult to work with. And obviously, it's more about yourself than it is the team. I don't know what do y'all think if you're playing in there and y'all's starting quarterback wants that?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Are you pissed at him or you kind of understand it because you know you want to get as much money as you can because now we're in this weird era but I mean if I'm a player, especially if I'm an O lineman and my guy all of a sudden bounces out, doesn't tell anyone, doesn't show up spring practices the day before the orange and white game.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I don't know. It just seems like cowardesque. Yeah, I'd be tight about it as a teammate as a player. I think, It's so hard because it's such a Wild West. Like people, it's like you don't want to fault Nico. You don't want to fault. Like, it's like what the NCAA has created because there are no boundaries.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And we're in a capitalist world. We're in a capitalist society. You want everybody to earn what they want to earn while they have these windows of opportunity. But I think for me, it sucks to see because the mentality and commitment that this game, that the game breeds into life. Like, in all of it is like getting lost because you're so consumed by, What's my value? What can my value be in the market?
Starting point is 00:43:46 I want everybody to get paid. I want the player. Like if I'm a player, to me, it's like, yes, I want to get paid. And there's going to be a range, right? There might not be an exact dollar amount. But if you're with a school and they're hitting your range, whether or not you're flirting with other schools or other opportunities. But after that, it's like you listen to John Gruen's speech, the whole about the team.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Like guys are missing on thinking about and pouring into the team. But if I'm a teammate and I know my quarterback is getting $2.5 million, a shit, of money. It's like, hey, can you operate? Are you at a school with all the resources necessary to make it to the big leagues? Because every kid, their dream is to play professional football. And we're now in a world to where you can now get paid in college. But if it's all about, you want to get to the next level, you're at a school to where you have all the resources, you have a team around you, you have the coaching staff, you have everything you need to be successful at life and to set you up for the next level. Like if they're hitting your range of money,
Starting point is 00:44:39 it's like, what are we bitching about? And if you're so worried about making the four million, It is like if I'm a teammate, I'm me in the locker room or whatever, I'm thinking to myself or whatever group of leadership that you're around, you're sitting there with the coach be like, yeah, get them out of here. Because you want guys who are committed to the fucking team. You're getting paid well. I know everybody wants their market value. I know everybody wants to leverage and do all the things they can to optimize their moment of time because they might not get paid any more money. But bro, you're already getting paid. These college athletes, you're getting paid.
Starting point is 00:45:10 You're getting fairly compensated. It's like at that point, man, you need the guys. in the locker room and you need the culture that is all about winning a championship. Because if you win a championship, it's all going to trickle down to you and all your teammates. Winning solves everything. Winning solves everything. You see it in the NFL. A team wins a Super Bowl and guys on that roster will be getting paid more money because they
Starting point is 00:45:28 think they have some value or some leadership or some culture aspect that they're going to bring into their locker room. It's going to be the same thing in college football. It's like when you're pouring into the team, into the team, you sign your NIL deal. You're like, all right, I'm committed to this university. Pay me four years, $8 million. Yeah, there's going to be new kids. that come in that break that barrier,
Starting point is 00:45:46 that you can't sit there and look around and check other people's pockets because then it's just going to piss you off and you're chasing it for the wrong reasons at that point. Right. The mentality that you have playing college football, man, you get paid well now. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I hate it. It bothers me a lot. Because again, it's like, I hate faulting the kid because in my brain, he's not mature enough to know all the ins and outs of it. These agents, the people, his counsel, he has bad counsel. These guys who are money hungry,
Starting point is 00:46:12 it's like, hey, you should be getting paid money. now that you're in the playoffs and you you talk that into the player and then all of a sudden he might not be he's not the most mature kid yet so he doesn't know he's going to lean on people who you trust you don't blame nico in the situation you believe you blame the people around him that have influence in his life because you need there has to be a level of work ethic that has to be a level of buy-in or any level high school college or NFL all i agree with everything you just said this from a tennessee standpoint like is your team better or worse now you're probably not as good as you were 48 hours ago 72 hours ago when he was on the team
Starting point is 00:46:43 But the culture of your team and the long term is going to be better off because of it. Nico has made a decision, a short-term decision for more money than the long term is going to affect him when he goes to the NFL. Guys are not going to believe him as much. Hey, if there's another doll, if there's another shiny toy just across the fence, you're going to be a type of guy to go get that. If I'm an offensive lineman and that's my quarterback, I'm heated. I'm pissed because at the end of the day, you like to believe we're not in college football and this is a totally different world than you and I were in. But you like to believe that everybody in that locker room who's wearing orange is all striving to win a national championship, win the SEC championship and make a big run in the playoffs. So when a guy goes, I want $1.6 million more.
Starting point is 00:47:23 When you put up 2,600 yards in the past year, 19 touchdowns, five interceptions, like you're not, sorry, well, it says five right here. But you're not, you're not that guy. Like you're like, I get it. You can make more money. Everyone's getting more money. Listen, when I signed my second contract, I was the highest paid. offense alignment in NFL history. Two years later, I was barely breaking the top 10. And you could sit there and be like, oh, damn, I want more money. No, it's like you have to be grateful for what
Starting point is 00:47:49 you get in the moment you are. Because every single time somebody gets paid the most, I promise you maybe a week later, a day later, you see this with the off season this year, Max Crosby, highest paying non-quarterback in history. Like a week and a half later, he's like fifth. Like that is the way the game goes. It's about timing. But legacy seems like it doesn't mean as much of these guys anymore. and you want to go, you want the buy-in from the players and the culture and the team. So shout out Hippel. I think that's a huge long-term win. It might affect you guys this year.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I mean, I was nervous with or without Nico because we lost four of our five starting old linemen, our three best receivers and Dylan Samson, SEC player of the year. So we have a lot of holes to fill on our offense. So I'm wondering if I put myself in Nico's shoes, if they're part of him was like, I have lost a lot of talent on this team. so I'm going to ask for more money because, you know, it's the best situation for me financially because we might not be as good this coming year. So maybe he's thinking just for the future.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But I don't know. It definitely falls on his camp. His father, who's a scumbag, all of a sudden, he's nowhere to be found on Twitter anymore. And he was talking all this shit. His agents, part of me feels kind of bad for Nico. I don't know whose ultimate decision it was. I mean, I'm not a Nico fan anymore. he very well could go down
Starting point is 00:49:08 as one of the most hated balls now in history and I feel bad for that kid because if it was a majority decision based on his camp and not him obviously he has a final say but yeah it's just you just want kids to play I'm just thinking too it's like
Starting point is 00:49:22 $2 million you're looking at you're realistic with the body of work you just had to where if you're going to go in the market and try to command more money but it's like if I'm the player and your body of work doesn't show that you're satisfied with that body of work.
Starting point is 00:49:38 At the end of the day, it's like, where is your mental at on like wanting to pour into the excellence on the field in training and everything to get better? Because when you look at your bank account, you're making $2 million, it's like, you have everything you fucking need. It's like, bro, we were in college and we were getting more than the people before us.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm getting like an $850 scholarship check and I'm pocketing some at the end of every month to where you feel comfortable to where it's... It's like, you're just all about ball and trying to get better at your craft. I couldn't imagine. making the money that these kids are making now. And again, I understand that there's business to be made and money to be capitalized on.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But if you're a good player and you can be a player that plays at the next level and you're in a good spot and you're at a good college and you have everything around you that you need to be successful. All the resources in the world. And pouring to your craft. Like you're not at a school where it's a stepping stone. You're not at a D1A or a lower tier D1 school to where it's like, hey, you might have you might have pushed the boundaries and got as much as you can out of that. Now you're set up to go to a bigger school to play on a bigger set. stage. Like you're not in that situation. You're in a situation where you're very well compensated to be as good of a quarterback as you can be. And whether or not you've lost town, it's like,
Starting point is 00:50:44 man, make the guys around you better. How can you expand your leadership? How can you expand your command of the offense? Your communication, you're throwing motion, all that different stuff. It just blows my mind, man. I hate to see it. Two things. It's going to continue to be that way. Matt Rule, I think I had a really good comment on this whole thing. He talked about you can't fault the guy for leaving if the reason why he's leaving is for the right reasons. Like he's at Temple. He chose a lead temple to go to Baylor. He chose to leave Baylor to go to the Carolina making these decisions to take the next progression in his career. Then, but you look at Nico and he's at a, you know, a top program in all of college football with all the resources
Starting point is 00:51:21 you could possibly have around them with, you know, guys like Peyton Manning who are in that building consistently with the best coaches, with the best trained coaches. Like you have everything you need. The next step should be the NFL. As long as your fair range is getting hit, which- Your fair range. And it's like just hit the middle. And I know it sounds, it kind of sounds selfish of us to be like, you don't need all this money.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Because yeah, he could essentially get hurt and never play another snap in his entire life. That's the kind of game you live with here. But like $2.5 million in college, for me, just seems insane. Because you said $8.50,
Starting point is 00:51:55 I was making $1,250 bags. But like, nice. I mean, $1,250, $1,250 felt like every dollar you possibly needed in college. You had a 50-cc scooter. You ripped it. You spent $200 at the bar that weekend. And then you're like, holy shit, I got to make this work for the entire month. But everybody's on that same point. I cannot imagine. Could you imagine going to Bo Polini and being like,
Starting point is 00:52:16 I need more? No. I can't. If I walked to Brady, Brady Hoke and Rich Rodriguez after, you know, my freshman year of starting being like, listen, I want X, Y, and Z. I don't have the fucking stones for that. Yeah. I had a hard time. And the contract negotiators, the agents do the thing. Yeah. Because the GM I remember. The age is the one that's winning this thing. Yeah. Because they're taking like 20%. Yeah. It's just nuts. And it's, it sucks, man. It's not this shit on a school like UCLA, but that is like the top target that they're
Starting point is 00:52:51 saying Nico may land at. But you do not know what you got till it's gone with like leaving Tennessee to go to UCLA and getting to experience that home crowd in Knoxville against Alabama, like, that is not everywhere. You don't just have these sellout crowds. And you're playing against the best. You're playing against the best. UCLA stadiums are half the time, you know, half empty. Or it's the other team.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah, and they're playing against these great schools in the Big Ten that they're kind of getting trounced most of the time. And it's like, was that worth an extra? Because they'll probably, you know, match whatever he was getting at Tennessee or if not a little bit more. It's like, is that worth? it to know because you'll be hearing people you know schools make billi or like all this money and coaches leave and to me like it's like ball players who talk about that I feel like they tasted something
Starting point is 00:53:44 they tasted a bitter part of the business to whether they just want the the athlete to maximize as much as they can it's like oh coaches get to leave coach you get to do this it's like getting to listen to even coach landing like some of these coaches it's like the grind that they get to where they get positioned that way but even when they're at a spot everybody so committed to the excellence there until you get to the off season or until something happens. It feels like in Nico's world, things were even unfolding in the middle of the season, which again, that goes to the structure
Starting point is 00:54:10 and the leadership of the NCAA because there are no guidelines right now. But it's like that mentality is not going to, it's not a successful approach to have. No, it's not a sustainable mentality. Yeah, that's gonna, that'll come back to bite him in the ass. He might get paid. He might go to UCLA.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Like, I hope you, like, no disrespect to the UCLA Bruins, but like that's not a program. That comes close to Tennessee. Not even close. They beat us last year too. I forgot about that. We'll get that. We'll get our look back this year.
Starting point is 00:54:41 You see this news with Nico and then you like starts on what? Like Thursday or Friday and for them to act like we talked about act quickly and making their decision, Hypo and Tennessee. But then the next day how many quarterbacks around the country hit transfer portal? It's like all the ones that are like, oh, maybe I'll go out there and maybe play at Tennessee. like Florida State's quarterbacks in the portal right now. So it'll be interesting what happens throughout this week and how fast a decision will be made.
Starting point is 00:55:09 For sure. Long term, for sure. Long term, no doubt about it. You might go get like a freshman with four years of eligibility who's a stud. And then like what Jack was saying is like get through this year and then next year you have two quarterbacks that are dueling it out
Starting point is 00:55:26 that are like good quarterbacks. Yeah. But it'll be interesting. I wonder how fast a decision will be made on either side, Nico, Tennessee, whatever it is. I think they say that when the portal opens up, the 16th, the 25th. Yeah, two days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That's going to be a crazy nine days. Portal opens up just so random. Random. Portal open. Random. Yeah, man. You got the winter window, which is crazy. It's like that's right before the playoffs even start.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That should be after the playoffs. 100%. Should be after the playoffs. And yeah, they should have, I mean, the college football scheduling in general. Like, it should end January 1st. Like play your championship weekend and then play the playoffs the next week. Have your bi-week and then go and then January 1. You just kind of start structuring it like such a professional level.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah. You kind of have to. Because it is kind of just a bunch of puzzle pieces that don't fit together right now. Yeah. You need a little bit more balance. And then what is the NCAA anymore? What is, because we couldn't have. Yeah, these guys are getting paid.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He did a good job breaking all that down too. Commish. Yeah, paid a stud. Yeah, paid to a stud. Stud. Other news, college football. Was it Kyron Lacey? Unfortunately, it sounds like a guy from a gunshot, self-inflicted wound.
Starting point is 00:56:45 This kid had a lot of things happening. I think he was possibly involved in a hit and run. A lot of things coming down his pipe. I don't know the full story. I will say this. Like, whoever knew him personally, his family, loved ones, I hope they're doing all right. loved ones, I hope they're doing all right. And we're thinking about you because that is, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I mean, his teammates, everyone's, everyone who he's been around with is being affected by that right now. It's tough for college football. And it's just important. It's important that we focus on the guys mental health. We focus on guys being responsible. And, you know, this NIL stuff, like if you're going to put this much money in front of kids that are 18 to 22 years old, like, let's put some good guidelines and some good parental
Starting point is 00:57:23 guidance around these kids to make sure that they are taking the best step forward, not only in the short term, the long term as well. So the heart goes out to them and their family. Yeah. All right. Oregon Spring Tour. It was a blast. Shout out, no free shout out.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You got anything to say, though, about Oregon Spring Tour? Yeah, man. You know, I've replayed that play in my head all weekend long. Like, I'll set Rue up. You know, having Rue, I had her in the driveway and I was trying to teach her how to hit me on an option route. I was just trying to feel that moment again. What sucks about her? Man, like, I'm standing there with J.P.
Starting point is 00:58:00 and the boys right before talking about he's going to want to beat me inside there's going to be a crowd there's these running backs they want to beat you across the face I just have to guess and I'm going to have to guess inside and the fact that I fold I mean I folded yeah like let's just call what it is yep I melted under the lights ran the flag out ran the flag out was feeling it the boys on defense are dapping me up and I'm thinking of my head don't get beat inside the moment he does a little short motion and he starts approaching me and I started approaching me and I approaching him it's like I folded like there's no there's no running from that moment I folded my legs got wide I reached I didn't do anything that I was talking about doing
Starting point is 00:58:41 and I did I hold it and I was bummed because I was hyped and fucking make a play are you going for a redemption and for the rest of the spring tour or no I have to you have to but now I'm thinking in my head I'm overthinking I'm like you know if I'm gonna pro if I'm gonna do another one-on-one at Michigan like I'm already thinking of my head it's just kid watching tape. Oh, he gets feet on the inside. He's probably going to sit heavy on the inside door. I ride him up on the outside.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Now, I'm starting to think. Hey, you're overthinking. I'm starting to play a different game. And you're getting in the same position you were before, paralysis by analysis. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but what we talk about when we were walking out the field.
Starting point is 00:59:14 What was I upset about? I can't remember. I'll tell you. Yeah. But I do know it hit home. Take the coach. You're right. Take the coach.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Because it's not about you getting beat. It's about how you got beat. You said I had to guess correctly, but you did not guess. When we go into Michigan, we fly to Michigan tomorrow. There will be a practice tomorrow. There will probably be an opportunity for you to do doing one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I don't give a shit if this guy goes to the inside and you jump to the outside. I don't want you to make a fast decision. That's all I care about. You can coach fast decisions. Yeah. You can coach fast decisions.
Starting point is 00:59:42 But I can't coach when you freeze out. No, you can't do it. And I think it's going to go a lot better for you in Michigan. I think it is. I'm ready. I know that. Fixed.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's all I've been thinking about. How's better? I'm starting to feel it. I'm starting to feel it. I'm starting to feel my back now. Better? Or worse? No, it doesn't feel good.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Okay. We're going to have like 25 spring tour stops for Will to get his win. Yeah, I'm just going to have to start traveling the country. Yeah. Furman, we're coming your way. Dude, yeah, that was, you look cool, though. I felt good. You look cool.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I felt ready. We got to get you a dark visor. We've got to get you a dark visor in Michigan. Yeah. So I will say this about Oregon. I don't know if you can beat the axe. that Oregon gave us. I don't know if it's even possible.
Starting point is 01:00:28 With Michigan and Nebraska, I did send a couple of videos of Dave Abeloff. And I just said, listen, they opened the doors for us. I can't wait to see what Michigan does. Did he respond? He responded and said,
Starting point is 01:00:41 what size do you and Will wear? And then he talks about a cheerleading outfit for Will. So he's aware of a possible one-on-one? Yeah, I told him I want the one-on-one. I told him I want the Bryce Underwood quarterback challenge. I said,
Starting point is 01:00:55 I basically just said, this is what we did. We want to do this. And we'll see. I'll tell you what, there was a one-on-one I did win that week. Or making up that now, huh? You're talking about after seven hours in the car, on a plane, did out of the car, I was there too hungry, middle seat. And it was a run fit.
Starting point is 01:01:15 But yeah, you got me. Here we go. You got me, man. And I will get mine before it's all over. goat out there too. Yeah, Marcus. That interview will drop next week. These two with Coach Laining.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Marcus coming out next week. Awesome conversations. Incredible. And again, shout out to Oregon. And the back problems more so come from working out with the team on that first day. Like getting mixed up with the boys, they weren't necessarily doing a recovery workout. They were doing a let's get right workout. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, I was in there. What's Bryce's last name? Betcher. Betcher. Bulldog. He's a bulldog. Yeah. A specimen.
Starting point is 01:01:51 You're trying to keep up. There's one time where it's like, hey, I need to take off this 45. Like the low back is, I am starting to feel it a little bit. But he was all about it. They're an awesome football team. Awesome football team. I will say I have never experienced an offensive line the way I experienced the one in Oregon.
Starting point is 01:02:08 The camaraderie, the vibes, the energy from those boards. The love circle. Yeah, they finish or walk through practice. The coaches like, hey, come in our love circle. I'm thinking, what the fuck am I about to walk into? They all just dab each other up. Every single one of them have their own handshake. And they all just sit there and like,
Starting point is 01:02:23 you know, basically just tell you to them they love each other. Just compliment each other. Yes, compliment each other. I go in the meeting room and the coach is talking to them. And there's like players having conversation during the coach talking. I'm thinking to myself like where I come from back in my day, you talk in the corner, you're getting your ass ripped. And it's just one fluid conversation.
Starting point is 01:02:42 The boys are all dialed in. I will say Lannings like, hey, we got this kid Isaiah World's. You know, the strength coach comes in, which by the way, the strength coach at Oregon, he needs his own fucking movie. I love this shit I love this shit Yeah But uh
Starting point is 01:02:58 They're like hey We're gonna have you work up this Isaiah World's kid Like you know small ankles Big frame blah blah blah blah They're kind of hyping this kid I'm thinking myself Buddy I'm 260 Like these cats are
Starting point is 01:03:08 60 pounds more than me But I went there I threw some weight around You were throwing it up I threw that fucking weight around I'll do some weight around I let them know who's who I might be 33 but I might still got it
Starting point is 01:03:17 Up top definitely not below Definitely They knew they were asking Taylor a lot of questions too Which is cool so curious those guys yeah yeah how they're like how did you do this or that like even when we're at practice the next day dude dude what do you do here yeah how do you get out of your set faster and which i love that question too because i had myself a couple little nuggets just getting in your strengths you can see you were you were dialed in when it comes to like actual like hey how do you
Starting point is 01:03:43 do with your feet kind of thing like you were to see this is what i did and then you can like the players being so locked in on you was actually like really cool to watch but i got like multiple DMs from those guys just being like hey i appreciate you're just coming out and helping us out. Like it is. And then we, I mean, we just have the conversation about Nico, right?
Starting point is 01:03:58 And that went to wait. And then you go to Oregon. And these kids are like hungry for knowledge. Yeah. Their culture is incredible at Oregon. So yeah, that was, it was cool to sit there.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And I told them all. I was like, listen, you have to know your body type. You have to know your strengths. These are my strengths. This is what I did to like, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:14 highlight those a little bit. It might not be for you, but this is what I did. And they were about it, bro. It was awesome. I heard you had a nine minute speech. Yeah. Yeah, I was starting to get into TED Talk range.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Kind of fucked up what they did to you, Lany. No, it was necessary. Necessary. Not for my experience. Oh, buddy, yeah. Like, I'm sitting there and I'm watching them. Their eyes are locked on, and you get to where you're just not thinking about where you're going in a speech. What do you got, J.P.?
Starting point is 01:04:41 The whispers in the back sometimes. You don't want to know this. You don't want to know this. We're not going to say it. Did you film his speech? Oh, yeah. I filmed it. It's in the vlog.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out right now if it's nine minutes, if we need it to be nine minutes in the video. You probably cut it down. Yeah, I cut it down. I'll tell you what, there's something there with that. You have some fun editing with that. There's something there with the calculator approach. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I just got to dial in my points. Oh, no, that was great. And I mean, truly, like, it is, it's tough to cut down because you were hitting so many great points. The only parts that got long was just when you went back into the install. Yeah. Because you're like, this is the install y'all need to know, yada, yada, yada. Hammered down the point. I'm like, dang, he just crushed it.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Now when I was doing it, I was like, oh, snap. Oh, shit, here we go. Landing hit him with this. When landing hit me with that, I was starting to go into my weekly breakdown. Like my structure the weekling. Like, how do y'all watch film? Worst far away when landing told him to wrap it up, Will it goes, coach, you got something? He's got a big smile.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He's like, ah, you got a job to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Fuck the piece, we want war! Okay. Hey, how much of a homie is landing? Dude, he's the best. He's the best, man.
Starting point is 01:06:00 There are people there all around, not just landing, all of them. Very accommodating. Treated the boys well. Marshall, Matt, Tyler. Tyler, yeah. Yeah, just the homies. What a squad man. Boys, we interrupt this episode to ask you, I have a simple question for you.
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Starting point is 01:06:48 Let's bookie. my shoutout no free shout out this week is going to go to uh have i shouted this out before late night gas station trips uh they are hitters they are hitters like after the kids get put down i go down i look at my wife me i can i'm going to go hit the gas station if it's a weekend you get you a tall boy bud light but if it's a weekday if it's a school night i'm locked in on the bay coconut drinks but you just take a nice little you know break to where you go drives to the gas station it's dark out you're listening to some tunes you might call you might call your dad or brother or somebody on the way home and catch up with somebody.
Starting point is 01:07:21 But late night gas trips. Nice. That's a good one to add to the playbook if you're a dad out there. I love it. Shout out. Houseful of kids. Not just your kids, but when like Will came over this weekend on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And Rue and Scotty were over here playing. Scottie was kind of just laying there, but you know how it was. Roo was playing. And then the neighbor girl, she comes over and the mom comes over. And I'm just kind of sitting in the living room. I look at Will and my hey,
Starting point is 01:07:46 this is kind of what it's all about. And you see, you're just hearing all these noises of laughter maybe a little fight's going on over here one kid's trying to get your attention you're like okay how do I divert them back to the kids but like they're all just having such a great time and that was like I was sitting there like man
Starting point is 01:08:00 I feel like I'm doing something right having the household like this so shout out house full kids anybody any other shoutouts kind of off your shout out no free shout out to gas stations that carry the limited edition drink flavors of whatever brand we're talking about because I went into Casey's
Starting point is 01:08:18 51st. The selection was so incredible. They had these three Gatorades I had never seen before. They had an orange lemon lime combo flavor. They had a midnight ice and they had some, this third one that I never had. And when I go to the gas station, I love trying new things.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And a lot of times a lot of the gas stations don't have new things. But Casey's did. So shout out to gas stations with the plug with these places. And Casey's, they got some good pizza. They have a great. It was just a great overall great experience. Yeah, the icies were incredible too. I got an icy.
Starting point is 01:08:52 A staple in the Midwest. Shout to every shout out. Obviously, got a shout out of Tennessee Falls and Josh Hypole. But my main shout out is to Chiba Hut. Oh, yeah. Yeah. A really great sandwich spot that apparently is a chain and we have one in Nashville. But the boys did it twice in a row in Oregon.
Starting point is 01:09:11 It's actually the reason that me, JP and Mitch did not make our flight home. but absolutely worth it. And dude, just shout out to a good sandwich. I've shouted that out before and I'll do it all day long. Sandwiches are my favorite food. Sandwiches is number one, man.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It just has to be. But yeah, go balls. I'll shout out, no free shout out, just impromptu plans last weekend. I was out with one of my buddies and he's, and I've said it before. I'm like training for a triathlon in June and I haven't really started running yet.
Starting point is 01:09:45 and my buddy was like, hey, there's a 5K, like, this coming Saturday, you want to do it? And I was like, not really, but I will. So I ran a 5K Saturday morning. It's kind of sucked. I ran like, my pace was like a nine-minute mile, not at all where I wanted to be, but. I don't think that's strong. At the end of it, I was like, you know what, that kind of sucked to do, but like, that was, it was fun. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:10:08 So shut out and like impromptu plans and just kind of, all right, yeah, I'll do it. nine minute a mile from not running i think is a strong start i my my goal was to not stop and walk at all and there were times where i'm like i just want to walk right now but yeah i ran the entire time i wasn't really running all that fast given my time but i have i have a starting point and it's just going to get shorter from there so yeah let's fucking go i love it i love it shout out no free shout out movie theater dinners going to a movie on an empty stomach and just housing a large popcorn. Maybe you get the hot dog.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Maybe you get the nachos. I personally like to throw a little jalapeno peppers on top of the popcorn. It's just so freaking good, dude. Get you an icy to cap that off. Yeah, it's a slurpy. Oh, yeah, dude. Well, and I was shit in the whole movie. That's a whole other story.
Starting point is 01:11:04 You're divorced now, too, right? I'm divorced now. I got hit up Sidney Sweeney. Shout out dude wipes. But yeah, shout out, no free shout out. We've been theater dinners. Nice. I'll hit a little shoutout, no free shout out.
Starting point is 01:11:21 It happened yesterday. I went to one of our friends' one-year-old's birthday party, walk in by myself, look around. I'm like, I don't know anyone here. There's tons of kids. Like, I, this situation sucks when you're just kind of floating by yourself. Everyone's in a conversation. But walked out to the back, all of the dads and other.
Starting point is 01:11:43 men at the birthday party are in the back watching the masters and so i just wheeze my way through say hello to the host happy birthday little dude lock in with the fellas in the back have a nice cold bud light but shout out no free shout out to the men at a birthday party that understand the assignment getting away to the side let the kids do the thing the wives all do their shit whatever's going on and you just kind of hide in the corner watch sports dudes being dudes yeah let's fucking go. It was terrifying. Walked in. It was like, oh, shit. I'm going to have to talk to people.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah. So what do you do? Yeah. It's tough. But. Beautiful. Shall we dive in? Dive in. Dan Laning interview. Everybody enjoy. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Do not forget to subscribe to the channel.
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Starting point is 01:13:19 Fantastic. Yeah? Yeah, doing great. You were putting us on game a second ago. You were talking about this book, The Game. Yeah, you need to read it. Yeah? Need to read the game.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And it applies to life, man, relationships, recruiting, the whole thing. All of it. You need to check it out. So there's a little sandwich technique involved. I feel like you're a little hesitant to talk about it. Off script. Now we're going on script.
Starting point is 01:13:39 There's a great book called the game. I don't get to use it. it. I'm happily married. Happily married. However you can't use in other parts of your life. 100%. Recruiting. Yeah, 100%. When it comes to recruiting, first off, facility is incredible. Yeah. Like, I want to get into... It only getting better. You saw there's some building going over there. Half a billy out there in the back door just getting all strung up right now. Shout out, Phil. Night. Shout out, Nike. But obviously,
Starting point is 01:14:01 I want to get into the day. I want to get into the process. You being as inviting as you have been. But when it comes to like recruits and getting guys to travel into basically a secluded area. Yeah. Like, it's once, once, once, you guys get guys in this building it's like it's very obvious how you like get these types of recruits how do you get these guys to come from you know the southeast come over the north of the buddy we had an eight hour travel day yesterday it was actually 12 yeah like we didn't get to we left at what 12 o'clock yeah and didn't get to our hotel until 11 Pacific time yeah you guys picked the wrong flight yeah sounds like it but what I'll tell you is in that moment that time you're traveling what built up the anticipation the whole time you're sitting here saying how good is this about to be and you get here and you get here and How's it been? It has been incredible. Elite.
Starting point is 01:14:45 It's elite. And I always talk to guys in recruiting. It's really simple. Am I picking best or am I picking most convenient? Right? If it's about most convenient, right? I'm from Missouri. You're from Missouri.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You would have been to southeast Missouri, right? Like, it's not about most convenient, right? You would have been over there at Arizona State. Who knows what it would look like? It's about picking best. And what Oregon provides is one of the best opportunities in the nation to get developed, get recruited, be a part of a program that's unbelievable. And that's what we look for.
Starting point is 01:15:10 It's not about the easiest. It's about the one that makes the best. most sense. He's good. He's so. You can tell he looks in the mirror. He has this whole entire script. He's got stuff down. Maybe not a script, but he just, he believes he's convicted in his, in what he's saying. Yeah. I believe in this place. That's for sure. One thing I've noticed,
Starting point is 01:15:24 I mean, we, you gave us the opportunity to go sit in some meetings. And I sat in the office of line meeting room and the coach is talking to the players like people. Very rarely in my career, did I ever get spoken to like a human being? It was like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, obviously this is the technique. What do you
Starting point is 01:15:40 have on this position? No, that's not the verbs where you We use this verbiage. It seemed like everyone was just having a conversation while figuring out the details of what went wrong and how they could do better. Is that something you preach to your coaching staff? Because it feels like when I walked in there, some guys like talking in the corner, some older cats. I'm thinking of myself, you're about your ass chewed out. And he was like, hey, you guys, anything? I'm like, yeah, we're just talking about this.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And it just seemed like the back and forth between coach and player seem more on like an equal level as opposed to this totem pole of like, I'm better than you. I'm the coach. No, man. How many snaps am I going to play for Oregon next year? Zero. Zero. It doesn't matter what I know. It's about what your players know and what they can execute.
Starting point is 01:16:16 So, you know, there's a lot of negatives that surround what people talk about, like, the portal and how that exists. The truth is the portal is revealing a lot of character of programs, right? And here you have a relationship with your coach. There's connection. You feel like you can talk to this guy about stuff beyond football, right? And I think that relationship is really important. It's not coach player, right?
Starting point is 01:16:34 It's coach player. And that's the guy that has to go execute. That means he has to love the guy that he's playing for. He's got to believe in what we're doing. How do you create belief? Guys want to know the why today, right? You know, 20 years ago, we would have ran through any wall. Whatever the coach said, and I'm not trying to run gasserers after practice because I did it wrong.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Now it's not about, like, establishing fear. It's about establishing a true relationship of this guy's making me better. He's making me improve. And if I have a question, I better ask it, or I'm going to mess it up on the field. And our guys, they certainly feel that here. How do you instill that culture, like transitioning into this NIL portal world where you came from the Bamas, the Georgia's and everything else? Like, how do you continue to pour? in the culture the way you want it done while also knowing that it's like there's some cat and mouse
Starting point is 01:17:16 with the NIL stuff that happens it feels like 24-7 yeah it's all part of the deal i think we're just really open and talk to our players about it ultimately to be a successful player you better love football right you better be infatuate the process and you can be unbelievably taken care of in college and now in the pros if you attack that every single day but everybody comes here with talent right what are those separating factors what makes you better right than the guy next to you and you know we showed a clip of Gino the other day just wins his 12th national championship. And he's talking about the standard performance and what practice has to look like to be able to compete at the highest level in a championship because what's going to happen,
Starting point is 01:17:51 that standard in practice has to be here because you're going to fall down a little bit at the level of competition when the pressure is so high. So if you practice here all the time, you're never going to reach that standard. You're never going to reach that level that you want to be at on game day. I'm going to turn it on Saturday. It doesn't work like that. And our guys have bought into that process. They've bought into wearing full pads at practice, the thud and the tackling.
Starting point is 01:18:10 you know, to being physical, right? And you have to be in level football to be a part of that. Yeah, they bought in, but they're in little groups, I promise. They're like, man, we gotta go full pads again. Oh, yeah, they say, you're talking like,
Starting point is 01:18:22 once you get into, like, once you get into the dog days of training camp, it's like, my God, we really got to do this. Takes what it takes. It takes what it takes. But the NIL thing is so interesting to me because we never had to deal with any of that. I would have died if I was even
Starting point is 01:18:34 had the availability for NIL. And you also talk about the player coach. Was that always how you were, how you operated with your players or did the NIL kind of change some things up where you're like you kind of kind of massage a little thing for some of these guys so they don't just run off to the next big shiny thing. Play the game. Yeah, I think something I learned early as a coach is that every player is different, right? I've been around coaches before. He says, I'm going to coach you all the same. The same. Like the reality is you're not getting the best of a player if you coach everybody
Starting point is 01:19:00 the same. So for me, again, I feel like this world is kind of revealed character, not necessarily the other way around. And for me, I've always coached guys different. I'd coach Bo Nicks a little different than Dylan Gabriel, right? Coach Tess Johnson a little bit different than Treshawn Holden. I just think that's how you get the best out of people, right? Some guys you can confront right there in front of them on the field, and we certainly do that, right? Those are the fun ones, right?
Starting point is 01:19:22 And then some guys, you've got to put your arm around them, and it looks a little bit different. I don't think it's changed the way that we coach here. I think it's heightened the awareness of being prepared for the next moment. Like what could happen if this doesn't go right? A guy had a bad day on the practice field. Okay, what's your reaction as a coach and trying to be proactive rather than reactive in those moments.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 01:19:59 So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Talk about being reactive and proactive. Take us into the mental of Dan Laning when you're down 3410 going in a half time against Ohio. Oh, tough, man. Tough. And I think the easy thing in those moments, especially afterwards, is like, let me make excuses of why, right? But if you're a growth mindset guy, right? If you're wired like, we are here, to me, it's like, how do I make sure this doesn't happen again?
Starting point is 01:21:04 right? You got to learn from that moment, right? And as rough as it is, now on the same note, in the middle of the game, what am I saying? Hey, I remember Georgia Alabama game earlier this year. It wasn't close, man, and those guys came back in the second half. And we certainly played a lot better in the second half than we did in the first. But I'm just, I'm that guy that I want to fight until there's, you know, no time left on the clock. So that's the mindset. When you leave that game after the game's over with, you're like, okay, how do I make sure that doesn't happen again? Ohio State is an unbelievable team, you know, really well coach. Coach Day did an unbelievable job this year. But, you know, they're going to have a ton of guys draft
Starting point is 01:21:33 they had a lot of success. So we had a lot of guys going on the next level. There are things that they did in that game that we didn't prepare our players well for. Right? And that's the part. Like, can you take the medicine? Can you figure out what didn't go right?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Right. But if you're wired the right way, right? We're watching Houston the other night and you're watching, you know, Coach Samson's been coaching for a long time. That guy's deserving of a national championship. How hard he's worked. He's never touched it. It shows you how hard it is for it, you know, to get.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Like, so hard to get. But that if you're motivated the right way, those moments, no, those are growth moments. That's a chance to say, okay, I'm going to go improve. Did that medicine last a little bit longer? Just no, that medicine. I wake up every night about that medicine. I'm like, you know, before we struggled early on beating Washington. I'm like, you know, when I first started here. And we were able to get over that hump, right? We were able to beat them this past season.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Right now I wake up thinking about that, that Rose Bowl game and didn't do it the way I wanted to do it. So it motivates me, right? It makes me hungry to go back to work. If you take it like, we all, we took accountability. It's like, yeah, we weren't ready. We didn't have our guys prepared. Now that we've made that very clear, do you think having that long off a break for you guys hurt you at all? Yeah, there's certainly, I'll never make an excuse, but there's certainly things that you'd say, okay, how would I do this different preparing for that moment? It's a lot different when you're playing a game every single week. And I think there's a lot of things that college football is still trying to figure out. There's a reason the NFL playoffs are the
Starting point is 01:22:50 way they are, right? There's been a lot of people doing playoffs for a long time and a lot of sports. It feels like we just decide we're always going to do it a little bit different than everybody else. And it's like, how about we just follow the model that exists? It's a pretty good model. Right. The model is play the championship weekend or the Bateson championship or don't even have the Bateson Championship. And that following week, have your biways for the first couple of seeds and then go on. And then go on, get to play the next week. But yeah, having a long break, you know, I've always been an advocate for football season should end. College football season should end January 1st. That's when the next semester starts. Right. If that means everybody starts week zero, I've always been an advocate of, you know, stay in a rhythm, play on Saturdays, right? Let's finish the champion. You know, why is championship game on a Monday? Like, those are things I don't completely understand. But I'm sure there's some dollar signs behind it and it is what it is. It has to see that. Was it difficult, like knowing that you had three weeks off on how to go about the preparation? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And when you look back, it's like what are things that you might mess with differently? Yeah, there's certainly some stuff that I'll tweak. I mean, I won't get in the weeds about what we do different. But I met and visited with a lot of people on, hey, how would this look? But it was the first time for everybody. Nobody experienced the college football playoff like that before. And there's some things we'll do different, you know, in the future. But you adapt, you put the best plan to do it.
Starting point is 01:24:01 together you think makes sense and then you adapt and adjust based on what what wasn't good. Is there a piece of you that blames the University of Michigan for waking up that giant beating them 13 to 10? No, I blame Morgan, man. We didn't take care of business. I just, you see them. They kind of really opened up the playbook after they took that loss four years in a row by the way if any Ohio State plans are watching to Michigan. And then all of a sudden, they were like, their hair was caught on fire. They were hot. They were hot. They got hot. They got hot. And a piece of me really truly feels that they wouldn't even got past Tennessee if they were just beat Michigan
Starting point is 01:24:29 the way they should have beat them. Care to comment? Yeah. Does a piece you wish they would have knocked to a late game winning field goal early in the season so that way maybe the motivation or momentum would have shifted? No, man. No.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Piece of me wishes we won. Is there a piece of you that feels like it was a bit of karma because you continue to keep scoring on Michigan when you played them in the big house? No, no. And you want to pretend like I didn't hear that little shot you took in front of the team today too. What are you saying?
Starting point is 01:24:55 I won't say what it was. You've been very gracious. We're all competitors, right? You want to win every single time he step on the field. But you did say, you know, there was somebody here that played for the university. You saw what we did do them this year. Very light, very comical, great timing. You got a good group of boys at last.
Starting point is 01:25:10 That's big shots, man. Yeah, it's nice. Do you ever wish the shit talking could just be allowed? Like, there's obvious this unwritten rule. Like, you're like, coach day, he coached a hell of a game. Right. There's a piece that's like, listen, we fucked up. It really wasn't you.
Starting point is 01:25:23 It was us. But you know how the media works. Like, you go and say that. It's like you kind of wish you just get the boys in the room and have a little chatter. You're a banser type of guy. I got a little juice when it comes to that. Here's my thing. Does it help you win football games?
Starting point is 01:25:36 Right? If it doesn't help you win football games, then I don't care. But do we all enjoy talking a little shit sometimes? Yeah, I agree. When it comes pivoting on that a little bit is, you know, you see a lot of players, a lot of, for the most part. Football, when guys, when players take the podium, it's, we're playing a good team. They have 11 guys that can go, blah, blah, they do some unique stuff. There's a playbook for every time you talk to the media.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Yeah. But then you see a guy like Kenny Dillingham who lets his quarterback be like, I'm the fucking best. And Bo Scatabos, like, I'm the best running back in the nation. They're going to find out. Like, do you think that's going to hurt Kenny in the future? Or do you think, or do you think, or do you think you should kind of think? Shout out. Do you think that's a bad move for Kenny?
Starting point is 01:26:15 Do you think it's a bad move for Kenny? Here's what I would say. I think what Kenny's figured out and here's the reason he's having success down there in Arizona State is you have to be you. Right. Every program is different. Like Mike Leach, way different from Nick Sabin, but both really. successful coaches. Kenny's figuring out what works for him and his team, right? You know, I'm not a big believer in trying to give the other team ammo, right? But, you know, sometimes that
Starting point is 01:26:34 happens. And we, and I say that, and we have. There's people out there that don't like us, right? And that's okay. But you have to be you. That's what you have to be as a coach. People recognize that. I get it. Last time, when we sat down, we talked a lot about your journey, like the 13-hour drive and the way you went about the interview and the trials and tribulations that you had during that part of the journey. We were talking with one of your boys at lunch and he was kind of giving us the skinny on your route to, by the way, congratulations on your extension. Oh, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Some new money. New money. New money. Back. New problems, right? No doubt. But, no, can you talk about your GA days? Because my man's telling us Intel, like you're making like
Starting point is 01:27:14 $6,000, $12,000 here. You're going, you finally get a gig tour your coaching. You get a position coach. Then you take a, and you're making like 60 grand there. Then you take a massive pay cut to go be a and get your master's degree at the University of Alabama. Do you ever just sit back, bro, and think about that. All the time. And think about, like, the moves that you had to make and the sacrifice for the family. Like, there was even chatter about you guys were shopping with, like, food stamps. Is that real?
Starting point is 01:27:42 100%. Yeah. You're walking into a grocery store. Well, you had the card. You had the cards. You had the card. You had a card, an EBT card. And you're coaching and you're shopping with food stamps.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Yeah, my wife hated when I would make her be the one to go shop for growth because she'd make you do it. But, you know, like a benefit of that. When I'm at Pitt, we have that card and you need to use it each month, right, or the money is gone, right? So I remember I had the whole scout team when I'm at Pitt over at my house and we had a heck of a dinner, right, using the swiping the card, man. So, like, I think back to that a lot. I feel so unbelievably blessed to get to do what I do and the place that I get to do it and who I get to do it with. But none of it would have happened. And what I always think about is what if I didn't do that, right?
Starting point is 01:28:26 The pain of regret, you know, versus the pain of discipline. I always chased opportunity. I never really worried about how much I made. God always made sure we had enough to take care of the house. And we never really wanted for more. Like we felt like we had what we needed. And now I'm always sitting here saying, like, what if I didn't get in that car and drive the pit? What if I didn't, you know, go to Arizona State instead run back to coach high school football in Missouri?
Starting point is 01:28:48 You know, what if I didn't leave Sam Houston State to go be a GA for, the greatest football coach of all time, Coach Saban, around that table, some of the greatest coaches, you know, in college football, Kirby Smart, Mel Tucker, Mario Cristobal, Billy Napier, Lane Kiff, and just some, like, unbelievable people that I got to be around. I wouldn't be where I'm at today. So, um, super rewarding, man. It's a crazy path, but super rewarding.
Starting point is 01:29:10 How long were you in the coaching game before the opportunity to go to Alabama happened? Yeah. So, I mean, I coached high school ball three years, right? Then I went to Pitt for one year and it's kind of some small stop. So I was Pitt one year. Arizona State for two years is a GA and then Sam Houston State one year and then Bama. So I'm not a math major
Starting point is 01:29:29 I was a P-E guy but you can add those up. Sounds like close to five or around five or six. But that's incredible. And then Bama was still a GA, right? I was making $1,200 bucks a month and three kids. I was going to say you had a family, not just a wife, you had three kids. Three kids, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:42 And then, yeah, it's amazing. You know, what I realize now is a lot of that was really selfish. Like everybody wants to be able to be like an unbelievable dad and an unbelievable husband. And you want that, but you also want to elevate. You want to move up. And the selfishness early in my career, there was a sacrifice, my family.
Starting point is 01:29:59 That was a big sacrifice. What I figured out now is how I can balance that, right? You can have both. But to get here, I probably couldn't. Right? There isn't balance, right? To get here. When you're having those kids and you have $1,200 bucks a month, like, was there ever a point
Starting point is 01:30:12 where you're like, maybe this isn't for me? You certainly have doubt at times. But what made it work is my wife was always on board, right? It always made sense. And what we did is any time, like, I went to Sam Houston State, and we're making a little over 60,000 that year with three kids. So we saved. Like, it was always in our mind.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Like, let's plan for the next time we have a hardship, right? And, like, going broke, like, I owned a house in Liberty, Missouri when I went to pit. And this is when the housing market crashed. So my wife stayed in Kansas City with Caden and Niles. We just had, you know, Niles. And we tried to sell the house. Well, we couldn't sell it for what we owed on the house. So what happens to the house?
Starting point is 01:30:49 Foreclosed. Right? I think going broke. early in my career was like a great lesson of hey this could happen again right right and you kind of figure out what do I need to live in live on not what do I want right are you coming home from sam Houston with just all to go boxes from what the absolutely with the kitchen made absolutely yeah whatever you can get your hands on that's right that's right I'm bringing it home don't even worry about it that's right late night as a coach would always look at the players family's going to be
Starting point is 01:31:14 eating good tonight yeah get out of there you dude you mentioned going broke early in your life is almost a, it's a good blessing, yeah. Because you get to learn how to save, how to do all those things. Now you're living in a world where these players are making a shitload of money. Right. How do, like, how do you instill that type of discipline on them? Because it's got to be so hard. Like, guys come from whatever part of the like life, they come from upper class, poor, everything in the middle.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Once you get some money, that's yours, not your parents' money, but yours, it's like, I'm going to get this car. I'm going to get this chain, this, that, and the other. And when I was walking around here today, I didn't see, I saw a couple of chains. I saw a couple of nice things. But like I didn't see anything like over the top where it seems like these guys have good heads on their shoulders. Yeah, I think that our guys are pretty savvy. They all make mistakes, right?
Starting point is 01:31:57 But I always tell them in recruiting like, look, man, you're about to be taken care of. I don't need you to walk into this chain that says Taylor on it. Like, we can just have a T, man. Like, it doesn't have, you know. Right. We just let's be smart. So I think the education piece,
Starting point is 01:32:10 we spend a lot of time on financial literacy here. We bring people in to talk to our guys and they have to feel comfortable having those conversation with us. You know, I'm visiting yesterday with Bucky Irving I'm so proud of what he's done in the NFL with the Bucks, but we're just catching up and he's talking about, hey, here's the great decisions I've made so far financially and how he's able to put some back
Starting point is 01:32:29 and he's taken care of the future. And I think some of that's from lessons learned here. So you hope that you're teaching those lessons. And then sometimes a mistake is a great lesson, right? Some of these guys will make a mistake, but you want them to learn from it and build from it, so they can have a long-term future because of it. Have you ever seen one of the boys drive something in,
Starting point is 01:32:45 and you've got to, like, Oh, I've definitely taken car keys before. I've definitely, you know, it's more about like, let's talk about, how are you driving, right? Like, it's more about how are you driving? What are you driving? But there's certainly conversations had, right? I think there's always buyer's remorse with some guys that make a poor financial decision. And they realize it usually down the road.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Yeah. Right. But, yeah, you got to educate them in everything. It's not just football. What's your, what's been your biggest splurge? Yeah. Since your new money has happened. I bought a, I bought a vintage Bronco, 1974 vintage Bronco.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Come on now. It was one of those ones where I didn't realize what it cost, right? When I was like, yeah, I can afford it Bronco, right? And then you figure out what it costs. Like, the guy that got one before me was LeBron James. And then I was like, wait a minute. How much is this? So you went to Vintage Bronco?
Starting point is 01:33:31 Yeah, Vintage Bronco. Yeah, my wife has a 74 Wimbledon white one from Vintage Bronco as well. They're awesome. Unreal. The coyote engine in it? Yeah, they're awesome. And the guy that actually makes them small world, right? Chose his name, right?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Yeah, Chope. He went to school at Oregon. No way. Never knew it. And then, you know, I was at Georgia, you know, we kind of, I mean, I was following the Instagram page. And I was like, okay, that's the someday. Yeah. Maybe get one of those, right?
Starting point is 01:33:56 You come out here and we get connected and, yeah, I end up getting one from him. They've got a cool setup because I think they get their parts from Ford themselves. Yeah. Because a lot of times you do these resto mods, you're kind of putting pieces together where maybe you shouldn't be with them. We've never had a problem with the Bronco at all. It's been awesome. Yeah. And I have this weird dream of having only like older cars that just, you know, turn.
Starting point is 01:34:17 and key drive every single day. The Bronco does my truck, my 77 F100. It's, you know, every couple of months. So I'm calling you and being like, hey, I'm not working the way it's supposed to. I got over home now because this car, X, Y, and Z. Yeah, Bronco's been great. The Bronco's been great, man. They got a great setup there. We went down there. I tried to give them cash and they were like, listen, the price is the price. It is what it is. Yeah, you're not getting a deal here. I tried to too. I brought in. I let me brought cash. And I was like, I'll give you an hour. And then they told you everybody that buys these, buy them and cash. Yeah. I was like, yeah, you're right. I'm get the fuck out of here. But they hooked it up, man. That's awesome. I'm stoked for you. So you have it now.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I have it. I'll show it to you guys later on. Yeah. Yeah, you know. What color? It's actually like gray. I don't know what color gray you'd call it. But did you do the four door or the two door? Two door. You thought about that four door at all? It was before. I don't know if it was even an option yet at the point at that point when I got it when I got it. It might have been. We'll get to see it though. We get to go out some dinner at the spot. Check it out. I get to see the main cave. That's right. You got a little, uh, you got a sneaker collection. I got some sneakers. I got a couple sneakers. I'll show you. I'll show you. I'm not a 14, I'm a 13. Yeah, I'll tell you what, though.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I walked in with some not Nike shoes today. You got a heat on now. Got an ass chewing and you were like coming my office. These are unbelievable. You got some heat on, man. Yes. And I know you were like, I'll try to show the inside of this. I think it's this one.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Yeah, the story's unbelievable. The story's really cool. Do you mind telling the story? Yeah, just, you know, Nike partners with Dornbecker, which is a children's hospital here in Oregon. And these kids, they design different, you know, different logos, different themes. And they have a competition. And after that competition, they picked the winner and they actually end up creating the shoes.
Starting point is 01:35:50 So some pretty cool gear that's made there by Nike with an awesome purpose. You guys are connected with Nike, man. I mean, what an unbelievable spot that you're in. No doubt. Let's talk about the day. How's it been having the boys around? There's a little bit of like juice in the building, right? You guys brought some juice.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I love that Taylor came down and immediately rips his shirt up. Will went kind of like, hey, man, these moments go fast. He was a little sentimental. You could see his heart. I'm not sure if he was tearing up a little bit. You could see it. Taylor comes down, rips his shirt off and says,
Starting point is 01:36:22 let's go to work. Yeah, let's go to fucking work. You told him that this Isaiah, World Kid. Yeah. Looks great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Big Bill, Bob, Bob. How was he in the way room today? Phenomenal. He was good. He was unreal. I do want to get back to Will's speech in a second,
Starting point is 01:36:34 but I will mention. We don't have to sit on my speech. The offensive line, that group of boys, it's a very unique group. It's one of the... They're screaming and yelling and yelling the whole time, getting the fuck after it.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Like, I like 15 oases. I'm white, but I'm getting the ooze called, a chest bumping me and shit like that. I'm feeling myself. So one of my favorite things in the world, we have a pool in our house. Those dudes come over all the time in the summer and they take over the pool.
Starting point is 01:36:55 And we have these rocks right by the pool. They'll jump into the pool and they shoot this like volleyball up in the sky. I don't know if you ever seen it happen. But they bring their own boombox, right? They got the music rolling. It's a special unit. Our offensive line is a really special unit. I talked about that meeting room too.
Starting point is 01:37:10 like it was like I felt so uncomfortable because it was so awesome. I've never experienced anything like that. How do you think you would have played in that environment? Yeah, I would have had a lot of fun. Yeah. I would have had a lot of fun, but I would have been one of those guys that you had to bring me in and like rain me in a little bit. But hey, you got to calm down. Like we do have to get some work done.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Yeah. Because I'm like a give an inch take a mile type of guy. Yeah. Yeah. Give a mouse cookie. Like having the ability to like, yeah, have fun. That's right. Hey, you can have fun.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Like, oh, we're having all the fun in the world. And then you're like, well, we can't have all the fun in the world. Come back. Yeah. Come back. But that was a good group. And when you called us down to you, because you gave us this morning,
Starting point is 01:37:41 what was it like 7 a.m. 6. 30? Yeah. Something like that. And you put the whole thing up. And it was like, your height's kind of pounding and you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:37:49 we'll have you guys say a couple things for the team. And I know how you were talking about it. I was feeling the same exact way where. I'm thinking we're coming down together. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Yeah. It was good though. Yeah. Like you got to. How often do you like, hey, that didn't work. I got to start. You got to be right out like on your toes.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Yeah. There's not a whole lot of multiple takes, not a whole lot. One take for a team meeting, man. One take. But the thought process is too, like when I came down to give the speech is like, we do funny content. Like we're in, we do social media. We have the podcast.
Starting point is 01:38:17 We bust balls. We have a good time. But every time I feel like I get in these environments where I'm around the players and I'm around the football team, you want to give something that's like, you get back in like the ball mentality. Right. You think of the nostalgia. And when I'm talking about, like enjoy these moments because they're going to be
Starting point is 01:38:33 gone one day. Like we get to do something so fun and something that we always talk about is like college football. Because in high school, you're running around, you're playing, you're having fun. Like everybody's the best on their team. You don't really know what you're doing, but you know you're executing. You think you're an NFL player. Right. You think you're the best of the world.
Starting point is 01:38:47 You get to the NFL. It's all business. Like if you don't play well, you get cut, you get fine, you do all these things. But the commitment to a team and where every guy is on the same page, you don't have that at the next level. You do it in certain aspects and in certain areas, but it's a business at the end of the day. Like the camaraderie and, and again, the sacrifice. for like, you know, that championship or coming in trying to get that 1% better.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Everybody's on the same board. And usually it's like, by the time it goes, it's gone. And then you're just thinking about it in the rearview mirror and being like, man, we had such a hell of a time. So that's where I was like, you know, I'm trying to like tell these. I'm like, it's a good story, man. Like, boys enjoy this, man. Did you know you were going to do that when you were walking down?
Starting point is 01:39:23 Because I felt like you were taking a minute to walk down. He walked slow, you think about what you were about to do. Once he said, once the words came out of his mouth, do you have some words? That's when I knew Taylor's not coming down. and no one's coming to save you. Yeah. That's the moment. If you're going to give a few words,
Starting point is 01:39:37 because, you know, I get long-winded with speeches, but if you're going to give a few words, like, what would be a message that you want to get across to him? And it doesn't help that JP was sitting next to Will being like, you're nervous? Like, what are you going to say? You're going to be all right?
Starting point is 01:39:48 Like, definitely getting in Will's head, but I'm also hearing it being like, I'm fucking nervous. What am I? Like, well, anytime even as a player when you're speaking in front of the team, when all these chairs are filled up and you're speaking in front of your peers,
Starting point is 01:39:59 unless you're like the head coach or like coaches who are talking from them all the time. Like you got, you know, you're getting checked. Like, you're getting put in a situation to where that speaking is the most nerve-wrecking speaking that you'll ever do in front of your teammates. Well, picture something right now for me, right? You're in front of a, you know, camera. Do you realize, like, picture all the people that are going to watch this
Starting point is 01:40:18 and they're sitting in a chair too, treat it. You're right, but it's like those. It would probably be what a billion people that watch this episode? One billion. One or two. Like, that's inside the camera. Like, they're not sitting here around you to where, again, it's like that elevation. You just need to pretend you're in front of the camera.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. All those eyes. Like, public speaking, I think we've both done a handful of stuff. Yeah. I really don't get nervous public speaking, but whenever it's football players, I feel like I have like an obligation to say something either profound or get the juices flowing. And if I don't do one of those two things, I've like let everybody down. You feel like they're the best in the world and like spot in a phony?
Starting point is 01:40:53 Yeah. Because in football, it's so easy to see authenticity and not. Yeah. It's so easy to see it. And like, we've sat in these chairs and you know when. speakers coach would have speaker come in and stuff and you know which ones that you're into and which ones you're not or which ones that you might be surprised by right right I mean we did the the rookie symposium and 2014 and there was a I'm not going to say the player's name but he came down he
Starting point is 01:41:14 he's a he's a hall of fame player and he spent 45 minutes talking to us about how good he was where I'm just like bro can you help me be better first of I don't want to be here anyway like we all want to go home. We like we just finished OTAs, but he's just making it all about himself. And anytime like you have this opportunity, it's like, how do we talk to you guys to where it's like, yeah, we've been here and we're willing to help you. But also like it's about you, not us. Because like our story, Will and our story is already written. Like, whether we can be proud of it. We're still right. We're going to have football. Our, our playing days. Of like literally beginning between, you know, getting inside the lines and putting a helmet on and
Starting point is 01:41:47 getting after. Like, it's over. It's done. Like now it's all about you guys. And that's one thing I really appreciate about your boys as well as, you know, like, Will came in with the sentimental and I was like, well, there's no point in going sentimental. You have to bring the juice. So we liked it a little yin and yang. But a bunch of your guys were coming out to me solo, just asking questions. Hey, if you could tell yourself, thing, tell yourself one thing different when you were in college, what would it be? Mine was like, party less.
Starting point is 01:42:09 And then the one kid's like, I don't want to party. I was like, okay, then let's try this. Do this. But like every, like there was like four or five guys that intentionally came up and like wanted to learn something because they thought I had some sort of value to give them. And that's awesome. It's awesome that there's like a certain curiosity. here in Oregon. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:42:25 That guys actually want to get better. It says a lot about the culture. Yeah, that's good. And Taylor's having this conversation when we're in the tubs too. Like we did the, for everybody watching. Some fellas were in the tubs?
Starting point is 01:42:33 We did the full thing. We did the team meeting. They got recovery. Yeah, yeah, they're getting recovered. We did the team meeting. We sat in the special teams meeting. We did the offensive defensive meetings. We went down and worked out with the boys,
Starting point is 01:42:43 which by the way, trying to be young again is a tough gig. Who's the boy you're with? I'm working out with Bryce, number 28. Yeah. He was drafted in baseball. Dude.
Starting point is 01:42:53 He has a hell of baseball. of his story. He walked on at both. Yeah. Great story. Yeah, he has an incredible story. Drafted in the 13th round, but he's a bulldog in the weight room. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:02 But he's stacked. He's got the shoulders. He's got the neck. He's got everything. He's got Compton College vibes. He's trying to throw on all these extra plates. And there's one point where I'm like, hey, let's go ahead and strip this off. Like, my low back starting to.
Starting point is 01:43:13 You got to be worried about that stuff when you get older. You get removed and you realize like you just don't, you're a shell of yourself. You're immortal. These kids are want to see Will Compton. They want to see the greatness. And so you've got to put your back in a vulnerable position to know what to produce for these young kids. I kept up, but it's one of those things
Starting point is 01:43:30 that know when we walk in tomorrow and do practice, I'm going to be feeling it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The linebacker meeting room was fun. I put on my coaching hat for a moment. I had to tell coach,
Starting point is 01:43:41 I say, can we go back to the last clip? I'm like, hey, the backer down here, how can you help out your fellow made up top? It was like a three by one, but speed was outside. Speed was at three. Yeah. The back was deep in a far set.
Starting point is 01:43:54 but he goes behind the quarterback and flares out to the three side. And the backer up top, who was like, man on the number three, he had tunnel vision. My man wasn't even looking in the backfield. So he could help himself out by looking at the back field. But the guy who's blitzing down at the bottom, like, hey, how can you help out your fellow made up top? Let him know that the back is deep. And when he flares across, you guys are already anticipating that you're not reacting to it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:44:14 So just in case one day when I put on this, put on the exchange the microphone for a whistle, that'll be my interview for you. Stay ready. Yeah, stay ready. So you don't have to get ready, man. That's right. That poor linebacker coach is done. He's killed. He's just will confident waiting now.
Starting point is 01:44:27 He's like, that's a great point. He harps on it again. I mean, that was nice, right? Great. Part of you got, you got juiced you up a little bit. Yeah, I get excited, a little three, four exchange. But you know, in the inside back room, like, you got, like, that room is what it runs through. And in the NFL's, I'm glad this is transition down to college now.
Starting point is 01:44:44 You want green dot guys. Yeah. You want guys that can get everybody on the field lined up. Yeah. That's your job in linebacker. So super important. Yeah. Well, I notice you guys have is a lot.
Starting point is 01:44:55 I'm not going to get too much into it because it's a little bit in the weeds, but like you guys have a lot of verbiage. Yeah. Do you guys just have a lot of verbiage right now because of spring ball and you'll kind of like tone it down a little bit when you get into fall? I mean, some of these things will later on become one word calls or things like that, right? But right now we're throwing the kitchen sink at these guys. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:11 And it'll be the same thing if all came. I want to always go into a game with enough weapons, right? And be like, all right, where do we need to navigate? Where do we need to adjust? And it's really both sides of the ball. And then you hope when you get into a game, like you guys know, that scope narrows a little bit. Like, what are the 10 runs that we love?
Starting point is 01:45:26 What are the 10 passes? And it becomes a little bit smaller. Same with coverages. Yeah. How is it for the mid-year guys? I think you, like this era of college football, there's a lot more mid-year guys that are coming in early. Yeah, most of them.
Starting point is 01:45:38 I got to meet one of them down in the tubs. Dior? Dierre. Yeah. Dierre Hill. There he is. St. Louis guy. St. Louis guy.
Starting point is 01:45:48 But I'm sitting there talking with him and, you know, I ended up telling him, hey, you got a pretty good head on your shoulders, but he just seemed like a sponge and I'm just thinking like it feels rare for a midyear young guy he's like oh this is my second week here I'm like this is your second week here like how has everything been like because it's a massive joke drinking out of fire hose yeah hard you're saying it's really hard for that just like he just started because we're a quarter system he just joined this quarter a lot of guys joined in January right where they have a little bit more time for walk through there's there's three guys that joined us in this window and it is you're drinking out of a
Starting point is 01:46:18 fire hose right yeah make mistakes full speed and we'll figure it out Um, you have something? Yeah, with, uh, I want to go back to like the speaking in front of the team. How was that for you, you, when you first started approaching, like having to sit in front of like a defensive meeting room or a linebacker's room or a secondary room. And how did you like gain the confidence? Because when you walked in, you were, you were handling the boys the correct way. You were working the room a little bit. You had a couple of nice place jokes.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Like, you just seem like you're firing all cylinders. Obviously, you've had a lot of reps at it now. But when you first started, like, what was the most difficult part for you? Did you ever have issue with that? I don't know that it ever really bothered me. I felt like I had a lot of great training. I got to go watch Kirby Smart do it every day. I got to watch Nick Saban do it.
Starting point is 01:46:59 I got to watch Mike Norvell do it. And for me, whatever seat I was sitting in, I was always trying to prepare myself for the next seat. I think early on when you have to go talk to a team the first time, you're like writing down every note. You are practicing. You're like, okay, what do I need to hit? Now it's something that you're a lot more comfortable with.
Starting point is 01:47:15 And as long as you have a plan, a process, you can hit it. back in that first Ohio State game, the 12 players on the field. Can you talk to us about it? Because I think there's a new rule now, yeah? There is a new rule. Can't do anymore. We've got to feel you change the rule. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I mean, ultimately, you work unbelievable. Like, you guys saw on our walkthrough today, we worked like into game situations. Like, okay, the difference in 10 seconds left in the game versus six seconds or five seconds in the end of the game and how your calls are going to change. I mean, you prepare for so many inordinate situations, right? and there's one where you get an opportunity to call time out, try to get a little bit of an advantage and times more valuable at that point in the game than yardage, right? And it worked out, but now it's a different rule so we can't do it anymore. How were you able to kind of expose that
Starting point is 01:48:00 rule? Like, was that something you came across kind of that year, years prior, something situation that obviously you bring up throughout the year. But when was the moment where you were able to be like, hey, if this pops up, like this is something that where we can leverage this rule in our favor? You know, I think, you know, Vrable always did it with, like, you guys, you're looking for every advantage you can create, right, in football, whatever their rule might be. Like, you see a lot more often now defensively. Let's say it's like a four-minute situation. You've got to get the ball back for the offense, right? There's a five-yard penalty, right?
Starting point is 01:48:32 And now it's first and five. But the reality is you don't feel like you could probably stop a five. You know, they have four downs to get five. I'm going to just jump off sides, give them an automatic first, right? So we can get the clock back to an advantage. for us defensively. So like there's moments where you might intentionally jump off sides. You talk through all those scenarios where a penalty makes sense where it's better to get a pass interference in this situation than to give up a big play, right? And then you get to a certain
Starting point is 01:48:57 level of field. We spend time on those every single week, right? As a coaching staff, some of them show up a lot more often than others, you know, but we have a group that really works with us when it comes to analytics and when's the right penalty to take, what's the wrong penalty to take? And when you have a team, right, that's able to assess those situations, you can attack it. Do you have like a one guy that kind of really looks in those details for you? Like you brought up Vrable. Rable's got a guy named John Stryker. Right.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Who, he's a legend. But he was the guy that would bring these types of situations. And one of the situations that was a rule change after was 2019 wild card game Titans v. Patriots. And we killed the clock a bunch on punt team because we took a delay a game twice and then a false start. And that killed a bunch of time off the clock. Bill Belichick's the other side, screaming his face off while Braves is quietly laughing and thinking about hitting his jewel after the game. So that ends up changing But stretches the guy that brings all that to him
Starting point is 01:49:46 Do you have somebody like, hey, I need you to find The gray area rules So we can exploit them So we have a couple guys Instead of having just one guy that's in charge I've always kind of found It's just like you have a defense coordinator You got a CODC right
Starting point is 01:49:59 So we have a couple guys that are Help with those situations I like the designated guy on offense and defense And then just like overall personnel That's evaluating that you know throughout games And then on like Thursdays I like to play the game with the coaches before the game. So Thursday's really kind of our last heavy practice, right? After that's over with,
Starting point is 01:50:16 we'll throw on a TV copy of a game, right, of an opponent that we're about to play. If we're playing them at home, right, we'll watch one of their away games, right, on TV. And then a lot of those situations will come up. So you're just talking through it as a staff, right? Like, Will, what openers do you like here? And he's calling this, he's calling the offense like you'd call the offense. But now you're also saying, all right, third and one, we see this as a go. You're trying to make those decisions before you get to game day. That way when you get to game day. It's kind of like smooth sailing. Like, you know, always trying to create those moments in practice that four minute, two minute scenario that we had in practice yesterday. Like, we're trying to
Starting point is 01:50:49 decide is this a scenario where we would use our timeout, you know, so our players, if you come and ask them in the room, like, hey, when does Coach Laning like to use this timeouts? Say like, okay, around 30 to 35 seconds, if we have three timeouts. That's where he likes to use it. So now, when you step on the field, you know what our temperament's going to be, right, in those situations. You're not, you know, and you make mistakes at practice, but that's where mistakes have to happen. but if we're all on the same page, right, that's where, you know, it becomes advantageous. And last year, when the 12th player one, did the 12th player know what was happening? Or are you like, hey, go stand out there?
Starting point is 01:51:20 No, we call time out before. Protect the sideline. Just kind of say, it's not one of those ones you're going to spend a ton of practice time on, right? We call coverage with inside leverage and we threw an extra guy with outside leverage to the sideline. That guy, did you tell him or you said, hey, just walk out there? He knew in the moment, but didn't really know it in the moment. He didn't know a situationally why you were doing it. There wasn't a lot of clarity.
Starting point is 01:51:40 So I want to see if Rape had one like that too, where it was like Josh Kalu was on the sidelines. Like Josh, go out there and stand. Just stand out there by the numbers. I think he did it against the Colts one year. Sometimes you'll do that. Like, let's say you'd rather take a penalty, you know, have 12 guys on the field if they're at the three yard line, right?
Starting point is 01:51:53 And not having no play happen rather than us being the wrong formation or the wrong alignment or not everybody on the same call. Like, okay, give me half the distance to the goal so we get another chance to stop them. Does a piece of you smile when you get the 12 men on the field call and you feel the crowd like, oh, because you're such a huge part of the game. Like, no one knows what you're doing except for you. And the people that truly know balls,
Starting point is 01:52:14 like a little smile on your face, it's like these idiots. Yeah, and the really back of your mind, you're saying, wait, I hope that is what we thought it was, right? Yeah. Like, I hope we didn't screw that up, right? But I try not to think about what everybody else is thinking about in those moments. Yeah. I mean, to think of that in that moment is just, it's good brain thinking.
Starting point is 01:52:31 We got a great staff here. Yeah. You're very polished in that regard, extremely polished. And I mean that as a massive compliment. compliment too. Like you're not, you're not a guy that's ever going to take credit. You're always, I'm not playing in the game. You're a Dishon. Yeah, I'm not playing the game. Right. We got, we got great people here. Like everybody thinks about Oregon and like, oh, great facilities, awesome jerseys.
Starting point is 01:52:49 All like, really, truly, the people here is what makes this thing different. I got great people. Yeah, good group of guys. We can't, we can't run a pot either. Just in the middle of the episode. Just shout out the committee. That's all I'm going to say about it. Love it. Shout out to the committee. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. We'll talk about tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm aware. Well-ish, is. Big 10, first year.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Yeah. You obviously went 13 to know you won a Big 10 championship, so you had a lot of success. Right. I mean, I loved everything about it. I enjoy being in this conference. I think it starts with our conference, you know, with Tony Petitia, our conference commissioner. The schools that are a part of it make this a lot of fun. You know, the travel for football is a lot different than maybe the other sports. Like, it's enjoyable, you know, for us. So, yeah, it was everything I'd hope that would be. You know, you got some unbelievable teams, you know, really competitive conference, some really cool venues. I think it's a lot of fun for our players and our staff.
Starting point is 01:53:46 You hit you and get the Nebraska game on the schedule? We have them what in two years, right? Yeah, yeah. You're going to be there? We dodge a bullet this year. As well, Compton dies, he will be there. We're doing the fall tour this year. We're already scheduled the first two weeks.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I think we're at Nebraska both times. Yeah, of course. We said there was that we got to hit this one. We got to hit that one. Yeah. He's basically on. When Will puts his coaching head on, it'll be you guys in Nebraska
Starting point is 01:54:07 fighting, chopping at the bit. When you play in CAA, is that you always play with Nebraska? Yeah. Always. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a squad, man. What was, uh,
Starting point is 01:54:15 were there any stadiums that you were like really impressed by under one by? Maybe one stadiums. No, I mean, come on, say, who you're underwhelming. I'll say it's the boys. It's not the boys.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Yeah, there's the boys. The boys are a billion people. No, I wasn't. There wasn't nothing that I was, uh, underwhelmed with. Hang on, did you, hang on. let me ask this, because I don't know where you guys played.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Did you play at Michigan? Yeah, he played at Michigan. Yeah. It was an awesome atmosphere. I mean, big stadium. Right. Unbelievable. No, no, no, I'll say it.
Starting point is 01:54:44 It's not as, it's 115,000 people. It's not as loud as it should be. Otson Stadium is louder than, yes. Austin Stadium is louder. I mean, you guys experienced it firsthand. It's okay to say truths. That's all right.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Yeah. That's a truth. So it's a little bit underwhelming you think about 115,000 people. That's just different. Maybe it's built different. I don't know. Yeah, it is built.
Starting point is 01:55:01 It's like a bowl. It's built out. You kind of, you, like, when I played at Michigan, you're, like, excited to play. Are you guys the biggest stadium? Yeah, North America, third biggest in the world. But in college football. Yeah, North America. It's got to be uncomfortable seats, I'm guessing.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Like, you're there. You're like, cheek to cheek. And you're thinking it's going to be sick to play in front of 150,000 people. But then when the game starts, your brain more so goes to, it's cool playing in a, like, a tradition spot like this. Like a historic place. There is nothing cooler than getting those moments. Yeah. It wasn't loud because we, like, okay, it's not as loud as I thought it.
Starting point is 01:55:33 but it's still sick to play in the big house right but we also like there wasn't a lot to get cheer about because we we kind of handled Nebraska when we played yeah yeah again I wasn't I wasn't like you to throw that kind of like I love how he goes like defense immediately goes in defense mode yeah I'm just trying to stir the pot a little bit yeah pot stir the pot the next year your senior year yeah you guys you guys ever so like this year we get to play it at Penn State that'll be one that's that's that's when I hear it's pretty loud yeah it's a fun fun environment the brassica's loud too Here might be. Here's loud, man.
Starting point is 01:56:05 The game we came to with Ohio State. I think might be louder because it's more, but maybe not Ohio State. But here I was extremely impressed with how loud it was. We got a good crowd, man. Yeah. Got a good crowd. Yeah. The student section was, yeah, student section was.
Starting point is 01:56:22 They love ball. Full. Active. Full. But what's interesting is we went and got breakfast that morning and there seems to be like nobody. Like there's no weights. Calm before the storm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:33 come before the storm. But I feel like everywhere else, it's like there's traffic. Storm by the storm. Maybe we got great traffic. Before the storm. Maybe we got great traffic control, man. Great roadways. You got a plan.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Yeah. Should we hit the spicy tear talk? Yeah. All right. JP's got a question. Do you want to hold you? Hold the mic. Oh.
Starting point is 01:56:51 You know the audience would be going crazy in the comments. If you could spend one day with a coach that didn't coach football, who would it be and why? They can be active, they could be retired, they could be deceased. Any coach basically in the history, probably John Wooden, right? I mean, Gino, what he's doing right now is super impressive, right? But Wooden's got a lot of books and a lot of things that kind of speak to me, right? The way he coached, how he did it, maybe a little different perspective of the game.
Starting point is 01:57:24 So yeah, he's probably one that falls in that category. He seems like a – because I love John Wooden's Find Your Broom. Yeah. He's like every day he's the one that's sweeping the gym. Yeah, sweep the sheds. And he tells his players, find your broom. Yeah. I feel like Coach Landing is a find your broom coach.
Starting point is 01:57:40 What's been a recent book of yours that has grabbed your attention? I've done a poor job reading this off season, like post-spring. Because what was the book last year? We ran, I mean. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new?
Starting point is 01:57:53 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We were the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 01:58:08 So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 01:58:28 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. We read The Art of War, Sun Su, that was one of the ones we've done. That's always classic. That's an easy read.
Starting point is 01:58:54 So got to pick up some new material. It's time to hop back into something. I always like the Ryan Holiday books. I'm a huge fan. of like the tipping point, Malcolm Gladwell books. Like I think they kind of put science behind events that happen in history. I think Malcolm Gladwell is definitely a fun one for me to read. The, you talk about the balance.
Starting point is 01:59:15 I just want to know that the family dynamic. You talk about all the sacrifices took to earlier. Like how intentionally are you now about having some balance in your life with family and work? Yeah. So it definitely still doesn't exist, right? There still isn't balance. But when there is, like when we have time, we're very intentional. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:33 If you guys ever seen the movie Pay It Forward? Completely underrated movie. Kevin Spacey, Hallie, Haley Joel, I think it's Haley. The guy was in Sixth Sense, a little kid. It was like last night, we got home. It was eight. Generally the boys go to bed at like 9.30-ish, right? And I said, we're staying up.
Starting point is 01:59:51 We're watching the movie. We watch Pay It For it. They never seen it. Like, I'm the movie guy in our house. So it might be an intentional thing like that. Obviously, we're all sitting on the couch, not necessarily talking. But when we have an opportunity. But they got their dad with them.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Yeah. I watched a movie with my dad as opposed to just watch a movie. Yeah, stay up late. And pay it forward. Like that's a... If you haven't seen it, Rotten Tomatoes has it listed way too low. Great movie.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Great movie. Yeah, that's a tearjerker. He's a movie guy. Yeah, Rodneyugughey. They don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about. Sometimes they don't.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Sometimes they get it wrong. Did you watch Severus? I haven't. Okay, so I started. It took me some time here. I'm not, yeah, I'm not caught up. I kind of bailed. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Do I need to recommit? into it? Absolutely. But I think in your line of work it would be really hard to because it's one of those shows that you have to be, there's so many theories that are going on. Did you watch Game of Thrones? I did. That was during COVID. That was like convenient. Yeah. But you know all the
Starting point is 02:00:46 storylines that are happening in Game of Thrones and then all the theories that would take place to where you're talking with your boys at work or talking with whoever's watching Game of Thrones at the time. Severance is like that. So you need to have some dedicated time to it. The one I liked most recently is the Billy Bob Thornton one. Oh, the
Starting point is 02:01:01 The Landman. That was awesome. I've seen a couple clips on YouTube. Landman is definitely, anybody that hasn't watched it, Landman's the show to watch. Check it out? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:10 You see Shorzy? What's that? Shorzy? No. Was that like Jersey Shore? What is that? Pretty awesome. It's a hockey show.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Hockey show. His guy named Jared Kizzo. He started a YouTube channel called Letter Kenny. Okay. And it used to be like these common problems in small town Canada. He has a spinoff character in it named Shorzy. You don't see his face because Jared Kizo plays the main character and he plays Shorze. He's like a shit-talking junior hockey guy
Starting point is 02:01:33 But the episodes, there's only six episodes Per season, they're only 20 minutes each So it's a really fast watch And the show itself, it's a decent storyline But it's very funny, like comedic jokes The whole scene is just about one run Like one run on sentence That is just joke after joke.
Starting point is 02:01:48 All right, and what subscription service do I have to have? Hulu I don't have that one. I'm not ready to commit to another subscription. You put you commit to a Bronco? I did. I thought about it. I planned it out.
Starting point is 02:02:00 like what what subscriptions are in the landing household i mean we got netflix we got amazon prime right and i got the paramount because this taylor sheridan dude he just makes banger after banger after bang yeah yeah right so you kind of hate how the last season ended i didn't watch the last season so i fell out i fell out yeah you know they kind of fell off he's only committed to his family and his football team yeah it sounds like he doesn't finish one show ever i finished land man legit like here's what happens here's how coaching is and you guys know this like you're like you're You get like a, all right, you got spring break. I got these like seven days or six days.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Severance. I could have, right? Instead of, but I should have. Maybe you should have checked out. Yeah, but your wife's probably like trying to plan a trip. So like those shows to me are like late night, kids are to bed. I'm going to pop. I'm going to hit like an hour show.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And I can, and you got a window of time when you can do it. If it's spring ball, you don't necessarily have those windows. If it's fall camp, you know, you don't always have the windows to catch a show. I'm not watching a show during football season. Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe Yellowstone. I feel like that next season came out maybe during football.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Don't waste your time. Not ready for it. Okay, so I won't. Shorzy, though. Shorzy. Pop that on. It's easy watch. So I'm not going to get Hulu though.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Maybe, will you get, can I get your subscription? I got you. Deal. Oh, yeah. So I'm assuming you don't play Xbox? I don't. You don't play PubG? We do have a, you don't play PubG or Red their Reddiv?
Starting point is 02:03:19 We have a, we have a PS5 at our house. We have a committee. Yeah, yeah. We have a, we have a PS5. I think that's what it's called. PS5 in our house, you know, that gets played. I don't really get to play it. How old are your boys?
Starting point is 02:03:31 15, 13, and 12. Oh, yeah. So they're invested in the games right now? Invested. They play PubG? What's that? Do they play PubG? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Minecraft's kind of big one. And then I think Rainbow 6 is that? Is that? It's up my alley. That's up my alley. So for me before it was like, Call of Duty was pretty hot, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Is that still a thing? Yeah, Call of Duty is always hot. But Rainbow 6 is a great game. No, it's not new. It's... Well, I know. I remember there was an old one, but that's kind of like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:59 They've, like, built on. Like today, like this day and age, they're always just doing add-ons. Okay. But Rainbow Sixth is a great game, so your boys are doing it right. All right. Red Dev Red Dev Redemption, too,
Starting point is 02:04:07 if your boys are into it. Okay. I cried. Cried. In the video game? I cried. I cried. I cried.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Is it a video game? It's a video game. You cried during the video game. Coach, I'm about to say, buddy, coach, 2020, was it two? I had my second ACL? Yeah. I got my second ACL done.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Might have been because I knew the career was over. Might have been a whole bunch of different things, It's just me and my wife. And I played this game start to finish. What was on me about playing the game? I play this game start to finish. This guy named Arthur Morgan, like just a hardened outlaw, right? You're a gang in Old West.
Starting point is 02:04:39 It's like a late 1800s. And you're just working through and you're with this guy, Dutch Vandolin. And the end of the game, do you want me to tell you the ending? I'm good with it. Yeah. Okay. I feel like I'm never going to watch this video game. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:51 It's like Grand Theft Dottom, but back in the old West. He contracts tuberculosis. Go ahead and Google it back then they didn't have treatment for it. Oregon Trail. At the end, yeah, yeah, there's always a spinback. There's always a call back to Oregon. This guy ends up getting tuberculosis, changes his life in a way and saves his game. But you can have like good honor or bad honor.
Starting point is 02:05:08 And based on how you treat the game, that's how your ending goes. Buddy, I had great honor. And I cried my eyes out. When he died. When he died. Cried, took a break, had a snack, ate a meal, went back to sleep, cuddling, bakespoting my wife with an ACL brace on. Re-cried about that situation.
Starting point is 02:05:26 That's how intense it was. Just type in Arthur Morgan death scene And you'll know what Taylor cried to Bless I'll give it a look Yeah it's a short two minute You got I got a lot of stuff on my list right now Yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:05:36 We'll text in the short Z Yeah This has been I really do appreciate you You gotta hit the tear talk I know but I'm just letting you know Yeah you guys are incredible We love having y'all here man
Starting point is 02:05:47 Kid oh let me ask you this What puts you on to busing with the boys Because I remember Bet the bus I know but how do you all Yeah I don't know I mean I I probably Twitter or something
Starting point is 02:05:57 I stumbled upon it and then and then became a big fan man. Yeah. I just enjoy it. You guys are fun to listen to. It's like it's like me being with my buddies that I went to college with talking about a show. You know what I mean? And talking about the stuff that you're interested in. You guys hit the stuff that's fun.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Let's go, man. That fires me up. But yeah, I used to work out and I started probably on podcasts and I'd listen to you every single week putting in your picks. He's on his face. Show's not around anymore. He shows not around anymore. guess the picks didn't go so well
Starting point is 02:06:28 One of the few listeners It sounds like But this show Killing it You find your niche Sometimes your best wins Or your mistakes Yeah
Starting point is 02:06:37 Yeah Well said Well said Dude I hit him with the row That is awesome You bet against Oregon didn't he I don't think you ever picked against us
Starting point is 02:06:47 No it was never that Like you know I'm always picking Nebraska every week He's like hey buddy We're never gonna be mainstream Because we won't ever be unbiased Yeah. Boys, we interrupt this episode because we are sponsored by Roe.
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Starting point is 02:08:36 Interesting tier talk because it's like the tier talk we're doing presented by Roe is best first moves. So like, I don't know if I even have three in my bag. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Even hearing best first moves, I'm starting to shell up because I'm putting myself from that moment. So tier three, shell up.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Yeah. Tier two. Tier three, go home. Tier two, do you come here often? Yeah, so you obviously you're familiar with the show. However,
Starting point is 02:09:00 I will explain it away. Tier talk, we're going to start at three, go to two and one. Because this is a very unique tier talk, we're going to just combine. We're going to have three tiers. Fair. You say yours,
Starting point is 02:09:10 will you say one, I'll say one. And then we'll order them best to worse. But the first move, how are you going to go, I think I got mine, actually. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:09:18 I hope you have two because you can take one. Okay, so I think my rookie year, I got on the Tinder a little bit. Started doing the swipe game just a little bit. Trying to be a sneaky boy out there. Never got to experience that. But one of my moves was I would, whatever, match with the girl or whatever. And then I would hit him with the DM saying, explain to me your life and emojis. And then they would just send me like 20 emojis.
Starting point is 02:09:40 And then I would describe their life to them. That's smooth. And then that was my icebreaker. That's smooth. Yeah. That's a nice little move, right? Yeah. Hey.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Hey, you see Mitch back there, he's ready to go. That's kind of, the listeners out there. That might, yeah. Right, that's a kind of, that's a nice little deal. That's my old man, he's on the, he's on the bumble and all that. Oh, is he? My wife was on his little thing a couple nights ago. I'm thinking, what kind of weird fucking universe am I living in him?
Starting point is 02:10:03 But I gave him that bag and he immediately did it. That's awesome. Yeah, bro. I don't have any game. What worked on your wife? She didn't just like, I mean. I think it would be good like with the hay yellow swimming in a shirt. Boop.
Starting point is 02:10:16 How you doing, Wilcompton? Good to meet you. There really wasn't like, I'm telling you boys, man. Like meeting my wife, I met her at a football camp. At a football camp. What? I thought there were some sliding going on.
Starting point is 02:10:33 No, that was after the camp. Gotcha. So I talked to her at the camp. You know your story? It's not like, you know, I'm like, what do I say? You going to get pizza? So that's number two. Because we're number two going to get pizza.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Yeah, yeah. We had a break. We had a lunch break and there's pizza there. And I'm, hey, you're going to get pizza? And I was like, where did you get their pro? And she's like the Pro Bowl. All right. I mean, did you go?
Starting point is 02:10:56 So you think she just kind of felt sorry for you? Maybe. But this is old teeth will too. How are you been married now? Later that night we've been married four years. There you go. Four years. Coming up on four.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Coming up on four years. And but later that night she slid my DMs. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, who knows? I'm telling you it was not the- She enjoyed that pizza coming too.
Starting point is 02:11:16 And I'm like, you know, okay. So how did you get, all right, did you go as a fan? She's like, oh, no, I cheer for you guys. and like, oh, okay. And then it kind of, you know, kind of festered from there. A little catmouse for about nine months. There you go. Catmouse for nine months.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Yeah, it took your boy a while. But. Got it done. But here we are. Tricked her. Got two kids now. Yeah. Yeah, Pizza Friday.
Starting point is 02:11:37 That's how it goes back. Yeah. That's right. Call back to Pizza Friday. I'm excited to hear yours. Yeah, I don't know if it's very good. I mean, so my wife and I, we met it outback Steakhouse. I was a server.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Underrated. She was to go grow. Absolutely underrated. Cucabara wings. Some of the best wings you can get. Wallaby darn. I remember you could give like the samples of wallaby darn to your table if they wanted a sample to try it out. I could go get a sample, run to the back, slam it, you know.
Starting point is 02:12:00 But you have receipt paper, right? And I would always write love letters like with a call to action item, right, on this receipt paper. So I'd be like, Sophia, meet me by the bread oven at 6 p.m., sharp, Casanova, sign it. Right? We'd be serving our tables. 6 p.m. we'd link up with the bread oven. you know, a little kiss. I always tried to write, like the,
Starting point is 02:12:22 oh, you get the kiss out the gate, though? A little kiss. This wasn't like day one. That wasn't like a day one. My wife was definitely hard to get. But I'm like, I mean, I try to be creative with something that somebody else would do simple, right? So like I made, I remember Valentine's Day, this is probably too far away. I mean, this is not the, but I would write a card, right?
Starting point is 02:12:40 And on the front of the card, it'd be like a contract, right? And it's like, if you open the contract, you actually see what's written. But it's, you know, hey, Sophia, I'm. 17 or 18 years old, right? You know, and she fills it out, and then she signs her signature at the end. Then you open it up and it says, Sophia will make love to Dan Lannine
Starting point is 02:12:59 17 times tonight. You know, like try to be creative with, you know, how you piece it together. So, yeah, I always try to do that just a little bit different, right? Like, best Valentine's advice I can get anybody. It's hard to book a restaurant, right? Hard to book a restaurant, right? Cook at home, right?
Starting point is 02:13:16 Cook at home. Cook for your wife, man. They will appreciate that. you cook the meal you're not waiting in line you don't have to see other people you can do whatever favorite dishes maybe while you're doing that you book somebody to give her a massage right there you know it's just just food for thought so nice maybe he got some flavor be creative with simple be creative with simple right like my buddy what's the go-to meal if you're whipping it up she's like she's like you go ahead and cook for me she like salmon she likes salmon and for me i don't like salmon so she knows
Starting point is 02:13:45 that if i make her salmon like i really love her right Because I'm not going to order salmon. So if I'm cooking salmon for us for Valentine's Day, it's like, dang. Special day. Special. Yeah. Right? Because I will never order salmon.
Starting point is 02:13:56 I'm a steak guy. I'm never going to order salmon. And when you got the roast barks rolling in you, it's. Yeah. The roast bark is like, you know, the salmon's being cooked for multiple reasons. Yeah. Like this thing will be active for a good thing. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 02:14:08 What are you talking about? Roast sparks. It's like a dissolvable you put under your tongue. Yeah. And it'll be active for about 30s. Oh, got you. It gives you juice. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:16 Gives you juice. I don't need juice, man. I don't need it I'm good It's not about needing it It's better It's enhancing Okay
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Starting point is 02:14:47 Oh yeah Bud LightQuip question you know how people will do anything for a but light what is something that dan laning will do anything for uh can't say family ha that's not fair i mean dale earnhart said family and it was beautiful yeah but it's taken now family's taken i mean family is definitely number one that's the easy one yeah absolutely so uh was something ambitiously that you would do anything for that ring man that ring That's one of those ones. You know, I remember you guys asked Braebel if he would, like, cut off something, right?
Starting point is 02:15:23 Cut off a stick for a Super Bowl. Yeah, I don't know if I'm willing to go that far, right? I mean, I do have three kids. I'm not having any more. But that ring, what would you not do for that? I mean, that's a special feeling, a special moment. What would you cut off for a ring? Definitely a pinky toe, definitely, you know, some.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Would you cut off your middle finger? Yeah, I don't use it. On my left hand. What about your right ear, entire right ear? Yeah, I'm fine with that. Ooh. Would you not? I mean, I'm not coaching.
Starting point is 02:15:47 If you were as a player, would you not? I would cut off my right ear. Cut off my right here. Good prosthetic. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like a hair piece. It's a good question.
Starting point is 02:15:57 I don't know if I would. I don't feel like I'm like vain like when it comes to like what do I, you know. Yeah. Do you really need your right of year? I mean, you'll have a gash in the side of your head for the rest of time. And it's a great story. Great story. Would you do?
Starting point is 02:16:09 Yeah. Now you kind of have me on board. Like it's a great story. You're unique. Would you cut off your entire foot for the ring? Dude, there's so many advancements. in science now, you could for sure do that. I'd need to evaluate it first.
Starting point is 02:16:20 I need to see the advancements. Foot strong. You could just wear pants all the time. Foot strong. I'm trying to think all the things I still want to be able to do. Right. And I kind of need my foot. Do you don't need a pinky toe?
Starting point is 02:16:30 Do you ever want to be a coach in the NFL? No. Used to want to. Why did that fizzle out? I think you figure out, like we talked about earlier, like where do you really fit? Like where's your, you know, your niche? And I do feel like this age group is like the group that I'm, I connect with unbelievably.
Starting point is 02:16:49 And then more than that, like I always think back to, it seems like everybody's always thinking about what's next, what's next, what's next. And for me, like, I'm more of the thank you. Like, I get to do this here. Like, I can't imagine going to do this somewhere else because of the opportunity that Oregon's given me.
Starting point is 02:17:06 And then so often everybody's like, well, I can go do this somewhere. Like, I want to do it here. I want to make it happen here because they believe to me. Right. It wasn't like I was a head coach coming from somewhere else. You know, here. I was a de-coordinator and hadn't been a head coach. I coached a third grade basketball team in high school, right?
Starting point is 02:17:20 Like, so they gave me an opportunity. Like, why not do it here? So, you know, that's kind of, you know, that's the piece. There's definitely a different quality of life, you know, appreciation. Like in the NFL, they're not, you know, recruiting and a lot of the things, a lot of the hats that you wear. But every job's got pieces that you're not, like, in love with, right? But this is a place that, you know, I love doing it.
Starting point is 02:17:40 If you could stay at Oregon forever, you'd love to say, it's my last job. And, like, I promised my kids, like when we came here, Like you're going to get to graduate from the same middle school, the same high school. Like my kids have lived in eight states. Yeah, that's crazy. So like now. So for me, it's like, it's not even a thought. Like, as long as we win, because if I don't, if I don't hold up that part, I won't be here.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Yeah. As long as we win, like, I can't see myself anywhere else. I love it. Yeah. Coach, thank you, man. Hey, appreciate you guys watching. Please subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe, big hugs, tiny kisses. And if you're sitting at your desk right now, if you're watching or you're in your car,
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