Bussin' With The Boys - Dana White On The UFC's Sponsorship With Bud Light + His Gary Brecka Health Journey
Episode Date: November 21, 2023Recorded: November 20th 2023 | This weeks intro, we just got Taylor riding solo dolo. Taylor gets into our weekend in Las Vegas with F1. He gets into all of the cool things we were able to do and see ...during our F1 experience. Taylor then gets into his gambling escapades that he and Dana White went on. Taylor ultimately ended up winning money but the biggest thing he was able to do was help payback Dana's $500k dollar marker that he owed the casino. He and Steve Will-Do-It caught absolute fire and were able to make enough money between the both of them to payoff the $500k marker, the story is crazy. The boys also get into this years Black Friday giveaway that the boys are doing. These prizes are absolutely massive with the chance to possibly join Beer Olympics! Tune in to figure out how to win. Following the intro, we were joined by UFC President and friend of the show, Dana White while the boys were in Vegas. The boys immediately get into how Dana might be the best Blackjack player of all time. Following the gambling talk, the guys get into the massive success that Power Slap has been and the vision Dana had for it. They also get deep into Dana's health journey that he's been on with the help from Gary Brecka. He swears by everything and might be one of the best spokespeople to talk about how great everything Gary preaches is. Dana has also been very outspoken about some his relationships with some sponsors of the UFC. He gets into his thought process behind his sponsorship deal with Anhesuer-Busch and Bud Light. Dana says that anyone who is a patriot should be a massive supporter of Bud Light because of everything they do for vets and people in the US. The boys finish the pod talking about the Chandler-McGregor fight, tune in to see what Dana has to say regarding the fight. 0:00 Intro 3:25 Black Friday Giveaway details 18:07 Weekend recap 39:19 Taylor and Steve went to war for Dana 49:39 Football weekend recap 58:46 Twisted question 1:06:00 Taylor is going to The Game 1:11:38 What are the boys thankful for? 1:18:36 DANA WHITE INTERVIEW STARTS 1:18:40 Dana is the Sensei of Black Jack 1:23:20 The explosion of Power Slap 1:31:55 When did he learn to adapt to the ever-changing of media and when to not care about it 1:34:52 His NYE incident 1:39:46 Gary Brecka health 1:56:57 Dana owning a Casino? 2:02:15 People over business 2:06:33 Bud Light and Peloton sponsorship 2:22:27 Would he want to own a team? 2:23:55 Dana's relationship with the Nelk Boys 2:28:18 Chandler McGregor fight??For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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all of you with a couple of tears for you to enter in a chance to win some pretty amazing stuff.
And for the first time ever in the history of Boston with the boys, there will actually be a god.
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They treat us well. They let us creatively figure out where we want to go. And the reason
why I bring that up is because today you're going to be watching a legend of a
relationships, a legend in the marketing space. And that is Dana White. We were able to sit down with
him for an hour and a half, hour 10, hour 15. And I saw a couple tweets when I put out that we had
Dana White on the episode. They're like, if you get more than 30 minutes, you're winning because
that's usually how much he puts with people. Dana in the last year has become an individual to me
that I truly, I truly love this man, dude. I think he is like one of the best human beings I have
ever met in my life without a doubt top three but i will get into that a different time i want to
talk to you guys about black friday because that's the thing that's truly coming down the pipe we
we live in the barstool world and you've seen the last couple of uh the last couple of weeks really just
a week of of the back and forth of riggs getting salty sending a tweet will doing a great job
of handling it on the on the bird as he always does and he goes on busting with the he goes on
barstow radio has a conversation with riggs i think riggs did a really really
good job of staying stoic. Hey, I thought it was lame. I thought it was lame. He's being objective.
He's not putting a lot of emotion in it, but you look at the text. There's obviously emotion.
He handled himself well there. Now, here's what I'll say to you. I would love for every single
person in the world to spend a million dollars on Bustin with the boys gear. It helps us. It helps
the boys. It's incredible. But there's also so many great brands, so many phenomenal brands of
different genres at the barstool world that when you are, when you listen to the show and you are a
here one, two, or three, and you want to get our merch.
Give them a look, too. Go check that stuff out because team, team, team.
That's what we preach here. That's why the boys in the back have the relationship they do with us.
Am I Mitch and Jack's boss? Technically, yes, yeah. I am a half owner of this business.
But are we not fucking boys? When we have to have the hard conversations, we have the
hard conversations. Mitch got drunk on the job last week. We're going to have that conversation.
Right. Sometimes Jack and I go at it over Tennessee and Michigan and all that. There's back and
fourth, but that's the relationship you want to build because that's what this podcast is all
about. The locker room mentality, having the tough conversations, having good times with the boys,
not keeping this ridiculous hierarchy that a lot of businesses like to do. Because in this world,
when we all are motivated to pushing the wagon in one direction, it's going to work out for
everybody. And relationships are number one. You're going to learn that when it comes to Dana White
in this episode. Now, I want to pull this up real quick. So just give me a hot second.
because I think when we talk about selling merch
and we talk about okay Will and Taylor
we're in the NFL for however many years
they've made this much money
why would I go and buy their stuff
other than the fact that they have amazing stuff this year
where the heck is it
I'm looking for a text that Will sent me
because we talked about this I'm pretty sure you guys know
but I need to see it
it's about what's happening on
giving away hitting numbers all that
yeah text that to me real quick
because I want to make sure the boys,
I want to make sure the boys and gals
listening to the show
have a better understanding.
Oh, God, you're going to put it on that.
Okay.
Yes, yes.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, I think that.
It's up there, huh?
Yes.
Yes.
There it is.
Pop that little piece in there.
Gila Juan.
Oh, that's weird.
I mean, your name is Daddy.
I mean, I respect that.
I mean, your text is Daddy.
And then just got a text from Son.
Got it.
Okay. So listen up, boys, and I know that took a minute, and it's probably, it's probably frustrating.
But when we look at Black Friday and Buston and the barstow world, we know the Portnoy looks at this.
He looks at how hard each brand goes. And so we have an understanding of that.
And we also know it's a big, a big opportunity for us to take Bustin to the next level and expand more and more.
So Black Friday, we're going to have 20% off the entire store.
So that's not just Bustin. That's the entire store. I gave you the spiel about that, dude.
For the boys merch, T-merch, golf merch, hunting merch, hats, beanie.
hoodies, teas, and new merch.
You see the new merch I'm wearing right here.
Shout out, Barstle outdoor.
We put a little camel on the thing.
I hope everybody loves and respects it.
We didn't reach out to them,
but I hope they're okay with the fact that we are using camo stuff.
Where we'll see this, Boston University, dad sweaters.
Dude, this thing fires me up.
This thing fires me up.
Everybody knows me, knows I love dad's sweaters.
That stuff is badass to me.
And then obviously, I'm going to pop this on actually right now
because I'm a big fan of this too.
Beanie.
When we say one size fits all, we truly mean it.
Okay, your boys got, I think, seven and three A's, that's me right here.
And we got a little room in there.
I got that cozy boy season with the beanie going on.
It fits me.
So you know it fits everybody.
And if you follow me on Twitter, you see that he was wearing a hat this past week.
That was truly essentially being waterboarded for hats.
He was going through hell.
He was, it was like a, it was an attack on that hat.
And it was making it also Stephen Bond, EP, you see his hat.
He's got the St. Louis Golden Arch, the arch thing going on his hat.
His damn head's so fucking small
that it's like, I think it's on the last little thing.
It's like literally, I've never seen someone wear a hat like that.
Anyway, so this is where we incentivize you thinking about not just me and will,
not just the brand of Bus and Boys are the boys who work here.
The production team, the boys sitting in the back of the bus, not just those two.
That team is going to get 25% of the sales for a bonus.
25% of everything we sell on bus,
On Black Friday, I think the entire month of December, correct?
The month, whatever.
You're getting 25%.
I'll have to, I'll have to see that.
Also, every dollar over the target is getting split up
and distributed to everyone at Barstool behind the camera.
So that's not just busting with the boys.
That's entire Barstool.
I'll let Dave say what the number is.
If we reach that number, Barstool is happy.
And now we give it to people that work endlessly.
You see the boys in the back this fall.
And I can just talk for these guys.
this fall we've stood up another show
so we're running
busing with the boys
are our main flag
we go bet the bus
that we film on Tuesdays
and we go slips and picks
that we film on Wednesdays
these boys were a smaller crew
these guys are working
hours on hours and hours
and we're hitting the fall tour
and all that stuff
we're hitting vlogs
we're putting out more content
this fall than we ever have
so these guys
their bandwidth
their battery is low
and they're grinding
this is a huge opportunity
now I will tell you
Will and I
we hooked the boys up
we gave him some raises
actually this fall. We're giving some bonuses. We're doing some other things in the world to give
them bonuses on our end. But this is an opportunity for you guys as well to, you know, help the boys out
in ways that I know they'll find and be very grateful for. We're doing giveaways.
Oh, yeah, sorry. That's what we're going to talk about today. So that's basically what we're
on. Black Friday is such a big deal to this world, to this business. And we put a lot of hard work.
I know G, he's our big guy in the merch category.
He does a great job of not just putting up the next big,
the next thing that, okay, hopefully this sells.
He puts time.
He puts effort into these things.
And it's merch that I truly like to wear.
It's stuff that when Will and I started this show,
it was like, we should have merch that's like truly badass.
That truly is like, oh, I like that.
Hey, where did you get that?
I was at the airport.
We were in New Orleans.
LSU vlogs out now, but I flew into New Orleans.
And I had the dad hat.
No, I had for the boys.
For the Boys hat, Classic OG.
some guys like, man, I love that. He starts talking about this YouTube channel that he has.
It's for the boys type of mentality. And my, hey, man, take the hat. And it's those little things that's
like, all right, we're turning in the right direction with our merch. We love the fact that people
love to wear our merch. Now, listen, everybody loves a giveaway. We're going to hit a giveaway for you
right now. Okay, this is tiers. There is going to be five tiers in this situation and then an
honorable mention type of thing. Then there will be a God tier. I'm going to talk about the tiers,
and then I'll hit you at the God tier.
So tier one of the top spender
is going to be going on a fall
or spring tour stop with the boys.
We're going to fly out there.
You're going to get a hotel.
You're going to hang out.
Live show, vlog.
All the stuff you guys see that we do,
you're going to be able to be a part of.
And that's awesome.
Tier two, you're going to be able to sit on the bus
or any show if you're choosing.
If you started watching slips of picks,
you started watching Bet the Bus and you really love those shows,
you love the gambling aspect of the world that we live in,
that you can pick between any of those that you want to do.
and come and sit on the bus or any of those shows.
Tier 3 is going to be a signed jersey from not just Will,
not just me, but from both Will and I.
Tier 4 is going to be up to six tickets
of the game of your choosing using the GameTime app.
Game Time has been a sponsor for us.
We talked about relationships.
They've been great to us.
We're going to use the Game Time app.
We're going to give you six tickets of your choosing to a game.
And I'm going to let you know right now,
it's not going to be the Super Bowl.
Don't ask for the Super Bowl.
Those tickets are crazy.
Am I right, boys?
insane. So regular tickets, you guys will enjoy that. That'll be awesome. Then, so this is, this is the last
tier. This is tier five. I meant to say, I said in the honorable mention, but tier five, after these
tiers are filled up and everyone's slotted. I know people, as I've seen from the last Black Friday,
as people have really fought for, you know, getting to that next step and kind of getting edged out by a dollar
here, three dollars there. You know, sometimes it's a close margin. So after those tiers are eaten up,
the next 20 top spenders are going to get a personal video from either Will or I.
I know we've done this in the past.
There was like 500 and we're going to do top 20 from either Will or I.
So 10 for me and 10 for Will.
And we're going to pump those out as quick as possible.
Now, the God tier.
Now this is, this comes with a price.
And there was some back and forth of whether or not we should do it.
The reason why it comes to prices is because it's at my house.
And it's very personal.
and there's a lot of close friends there.
So it's like bringing a stranger into your house for the first time.
For me, it feels a little something,
but I do think this would be truly an epic experience.
Now, the God tier is going to be you and a partner will be flown out to Nashville, Tennessee,
and you will partake.
You will compete in the third annual beer Olympics against individuals like Burke Chrysher,
individuals like Shane Gillis, guys like Midland, Hardy,
possibly Jake Paul, possibly Jake Paul.
The Paul brothers will be there.
I'm hearing.
Burke Kreischer called me.
We've talked about it.
You guys have seen the clip on Twitter where they want to be a part of beer Olympics next year.
These types of guys, and I don't know the Paul brothers,
but the guys that are coming to this house are close friends of mine.
We've, through this podcast, have established a relationship.
And it's awesome because it's truly like the,
biggest bro experience of all time that you walk away from, sore, hurt, bruises, hungover,
just tough. It's like, why would you ever put yourself through it? It's the vibe you get to
relive those college days with all these great dudes. It's a phenomenal time. The price on that,
hold your breath for a second, is $20,000. If someone spends, which is an ungodly amount of
money, if somebody spends $20,000, you and a partner,
will come and spend time with the boys
that starstetted crew
at Beer Olympics
2024. It's going to be an awesome time.
Now, the way you get answered into this,
I'd be very clear here,
you were going to take a screenshot of your purchase
once you do it during the Black Friday weekend.
You're going to use hashtag Bus and Black Friday.
Hashtag Bus and Black Friday
with a screenshot of your purchase
and you're going to post it to Twitter.
The boys, I'm sure it'll be Garrett,
will siphon through those things.
He will find all of those purchases.
and put them where they should be on the tiers.
Now, let's say you're the tier one guy,
but you don't really feel like going on a spring stop tour.
You really want to come on the bus,
or you really want the jersey,
or you really want the tickets.
Then it's first come, first serve.
Well, not first come.
It's top guy gets to choose first.
So if tier one guy wants the tier three prize,
well, then tier two guy gets to pick between the top one
and then two, four and five.
You understand what I'm trying to say?
Am I making clear sense there?
Whoever spends the most gets to choose.
Whoever spends the second most gets to choose.
whoever spends the second most gets to choose after that, so on and so forth until those
tiers are eaten up. Do I expect this God tier to get fulfilled? I don't know. I would say it's 50-50.
I know we have a couple of fans out there that truly are like that, not only financially, but about
the brand that way as well, which we love you for. And if they want to go ahead and invest in that
type of thing for the experience, I would love it. I think we'd have a phenomenal time with you.
It is going to be, it is truly incredible. It's truly incredible. But that is the Black Friday.
Is there anything boys in the back that I'm missing?
No, I think you're good.
I think you hit it all.
There'll be more stuff that comes out through the week,
just be following on all socials
because there'll be probably crucial detail stuff
that might get swapped here and there,
but for the most part, this is, yes, the concrete giveaway.
The concrete giveaway.
And we're not about adding one or two more tiers.
Why not?
We're kind of like that.
Why not?
Kind of like that.
But these five tiers...
$50,000, who knows?
You go live with Taylor for six months.
You spend $50,000, you get to have Jack for one night.
Okay.
That's what happens.
Jack, do you agree?
It depends.
Because you want the money.
Well, I don't think all that money's going to meet.
And I, what if, you know, this is a weird line of tote.
Right.
It's called prostitution.
It's a weird line to tote.
We probably don't want to do that on this show.
You know, if a guy spends, you know, 60K, you know what I mean?
You can have you?
No, like, I'm saying like, then, like, then I have to follow through with that.
And, you know, I'm not against, you know.
Look at him.
Look at him.
Just, you know, a hole right now.
Like, I would have just.
I swing for one team, so I don't know if that's going to work.
Right.
Right.
I try everything twice, though.
Just follow us on socials and you'll see if we add anything else.
Follow us on socials.
You can find out if you could have Jack for a night spending $60,000.
Yes.
That's what we're doing.
I'm busting with the boys.
I want, as a camera on you guys, I want to picture you looking at a black and white video right now.
That somber music you hear back in the commercials in like the 2009s for 25 cents a day, you can save this individual.
When you spend on Black Friday and you hit the number, you are not only getting great merch, a great opportunity for yourself, but you're able to help these fine gentlemen back there, pay their bills, electric, utility, auto, insurance, home, car, everything.
That's what you do when you press the purchase button at store.
Dot barstoolsports.com slash bustling with the boys.
That's what happens.
These men take a step up to their inevitable goals financially, spiritually, personally.
You're helping these guys.
I wish all of them were sitting back there.
Sad faces sitting there.
Oh, please, may I have some more type vibes.
But they, right there, look at them.
They're sad boys.
And you can help them by just spending a little bit at the store.
BarstallSports.com.
That's all you got to do.
Hey, you should clip that for real
and turn into black and white
and put the music on.
Like the Sarah Loflin one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do we want to get into?
I think, I don't know if we've gone long enough
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I know that people hate the ad reads,
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Now let's talk about the weekend.
Because that is where the boys,
we shipped off to Las Vegas, Nevada,
second home for Jack and I.
Jack and I was able to experience show off our house,
Red Rocks, Casino and Hotel to the Boys in the back.
Everybody had a great time.
It was amazing.
We got there.
Thursday.
We'll joined us on Friday.
So we get there on Thursday.
What's the first thing we did, Jack?
Tables.
Tables, baby.
Because there's nothing better than sitting with the boys,
whether you're betting $5 or $5 million and trying to piece together a better hand
than the black jack dealer is sitting right in front of you.
It's disrespectful how good at math they are.
It's disrespectful that I have to watch them put five cards down.
And all of a sudden, they just look at me as if I'm supposed to know the answer in the basic math category.
And for that, you have to beat them.
Thursday.
How to go for us, Jack?
It went well.
It went well for you.
It went well for you.
It went well for you.
Right.
Not so go hot for me at first.
Right.
Your boy was down about 5K.
Early, early often.
I was taking punches, taking body shots.
Rocky Balboa, right?
I'm in Russia.
The blonde hair.
Handsome boy with all the technology is really putting work on me.
Now, saving grace.
Here he is the king, Dana White.
Now, I'm going to backtrack a little bit.
When I met Dana White in February,
it was awesome just to meet the man
because I respect him from a business.
standpoint and the way he handles his business.
He came on the bus, well, at the Super Bowl and gave us 30 minutes.
Essentially, it was like, he's only got 30 minutes.
He's got to get back to Vegas, blah, blah, blah.
We sit there.
We have a great time.
He enjoyed us.
For whatever reason, he saw something in Will and I that he thought, I want to be around
this a little bit more.
Invites us out to Power Slap March 11th.
Jack, we all go out there to Power Slap.
It was a great time.
That Power Slap is the number one most viewed sport by
5x, 10x
of all sports combined
on the TikTok space on Instagram.
That's how big of a deal
PowerSlapp has become
in this year.
And it's not even been
a full year of Power Slap yet.
We go see it.
It's a great time.
I end up gambling with Dana.
I've told that story before.
I win.
I win.
I win.
I win.
I win.
I continue to win.
We're talking about
hundreds of thousands of dollars
over trusting an individual
over an untrustworthy game.
And so I go back.
in August and I lose hundreds of thousands of dollars. There was a vlog that was going to come out.
I still thought it was going to come out. And then Jack was like, I don't know if we can put that
out, man. It was so sad. My heart hurt. My body hurt. It was one of the most painful experiences
I've ever had doing something. Breaking bones, tearing ACLs, that shit probably hurt the most
because you essentially asked for it. People tell you you're going to lose eventually and you did.
That why do I bring that up?
Because that night, Dana, I went back two weeks ago and we won a whole bunch of money.
And Dana was like pressing me to do.
He said, hey, come on.
Let's get back on the horse.
You got to try it, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm myself having a family, kids and all that, like thinking financially, like, I can't go through that again because I don't want to put myself, my family in a position.
It's like being stupid and ended up being a 30 for 30 broke guy.
He loosely presses me in a confident way.
I'm like, just get back on the horse.
We don't have to bet that much money, blah, blah, blah.
we end up winning a whole bunch.
He comes Thursday after I'm down.
Jack is soaring to the moon.
I believe you're up $5,000 at that point.
Yeah.
Damn near close, right?
So Dana goes, hey, how much do you want to win?
Now, usually when I win or I play with Dana,
it's like if I can win $60,000, that's great
because you do a $30,000 bet.
You win that twice.
You get out.
And you've been in the wars.
You go back and forth a little bit.
And literally nine times out of 10,
I've won that war.
Dana is like, all right, 30.
Yeah, not as much as you usually do.
I respect that. Let's get after it. Before I can place a bet, he's like, give me 30. He starts going to war.
He's down like $250, 300, but it's quick because there's so much money flowing back and forth.
He ends up getting up and winning the 30. He wins the 30, pays off his marker. Hands me $30,000 in chips.
That's the kind of guy we're talking about right now. Hands me $30,000 in chips. And it's like, yeah, but Taylor, he's a billionaire. He has so much money. He has this and the other.
He doesn't have to do that stuff for people. There's a bunch of billionaires out there that have,
attitude of me first. And what you'll see in this podcast is that Dana is relationships over money.
And that is, it's easy for, you know, a guy who's struggling with their bills to say that.
Because we all like to inevitably say we will choose relationships over money. An individual that has
three commas in the bank account. And I'm just saying that to put things into perspective,
has to make so many sacrifices to essentially make the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of humanity.
for him still to sit there and choose relationships over people to me is he's an anomaly of a human being.
He's one of the best human beings.
So what's Dana's rule, Jackie, after you play and you win?
Get out.
Get out immediately.
Yeah.
So we're sitting there.
We're hanging out.
And at this point, like, it's not just Dana.
Dana's our relationship.
Like, he's dapping Jack up.
He's dapping all the boys up as if we're all close friends, right?
We're hanging.
We're talking, having a good time.
He sits there and he says, fuck it, give me 30.
now this man
goes down seven figures
he is down
seven figures
at the table
because he broke his rule
and right as he was getting in
I told him
I said hey you're breaking your rule
and he fights it out
yeah
we kind of touched on it
but we didn't say like numbers
or anything
he talks a little bit about it
okay then no
I appreciate you saying that
I'll speed up the process
so he ends up going down
that much money comes back
and winning 60
and he's like kind of wipes the brow
like who shit
that was a bit of a deal.
He leaves, it's like four or five in the morning.
I stayed up with him because it's like,
yo, I know he came out here to gamble with me.
And you got to, you want to be there for support.
Even if I am tired, I'm exhausted.
The boys are running on fumes.
It is what it is.
So I stay up all night with him.
He leaves the next day, the boys, we go to UFC.
UFC headquarters.
We do a podcast with him.
And then after that, all the boys, like we go to F1,
F1 is an absolute spectacle.
Those vehicles are incredible.
And we got an opportunity to partner up with a company called Duracel.
You might know them from your batteries.
They sponsor a team there.
We went and saw the experience down at the strip.
We were doing the taps, the lights tapping up,
and you have 30 seconds, the faster you do it, the higher your score.
I don't know who won, but I know that if you're good at that,
you're probably great at life.
If you have the reaction time to do that, you're probably an awesome dude.
But I'm not sure who won.
Do you remember who won?
I don't.
You don't?
I know I was up on that board.
You were top three for sure.
Yeah, I can't remember who won, though.
I only got to go once, but I was
drunk.
You were drunk.
You want to talk about that?
We can talk about that.
But I want to talk about the F1 experience first.
I want to talk about the F1 experience first.
We go and do the F1 experience.
It was awesome.
We simulated, and the cars was a lot harder to drive
than you think they are.
And it was a lot of fun.
So we got to do that.
And then the next day,
We went to a drone show for DuraCell, and that was cool, too men.
Drones are essentially the new fireworks without the bang.
And it came up, you know, they spelled out Durosil about 15 times.
They turned into a boat.
They turned into a car.
And it's the transition, the seamlessly of drones.
It's a really cool experience.
They had a very, we'll say very exclusive party there.
We will say it was smaller numbers, big personalities.
It was a, we'll say it was a time.
But we had a blast.
But yes, let's get into.
we are in the weekend recap.
Here's all paint,
do you mind
to paint it
or do you want to talk
about it first?
You can paint it over.
Okay.
We're at breakfast
the next morning
after Dana goes down
those seven figures
he comes back and wins.
And we're hanging out
and having a good time.
There's a fan there.
I believe it was Jim.
God,
I hope it's Jim.
It starts with a Jay
and his wife
named Hannah.
I think he's,
they live in Nashville
and is either a police officer
or he's boys
of the police officer
because he tells me
about the police officer
coming to my house all the time after my alarm goes off and they're there in five minutes.
Like literally, the police are so quick to my house when there's an alarm going off.
And it's happened like seven times since I moved in.
But they hang out for like 20 minutes.
So apparently his boy was talking about it.
They buy us six shots of Crown Royal.
Now, I'm not going to take a shot at 10 a.m. in the morning when I've got work to do.
So, but I know that these shots have to be taken.
The boys are out.
Everyone's like, I'm not taking it.
Like, I'm not taking it.
Jack's seeing next to me.
I'm not taking it.
JP's seeing next to Jack.
I'm not taking it.
Steven, I'm not.
Mitch goes, I'll take one.
And it's like, okay, brother, you're going to take one?
So I say, I think to myself, what an opportunity to test one of my guys when they know we have a full slate today.
Hey, Mitch, I'll give you $1,000 if you take those shots.
How long did you think about it for?
You went, took a Tuesday?
I thought about it for, I was still, I was so stubborn.
from the great breakfast we had.
And then I was like, I need to go for a walk and think about this, took a Tuesday.
Came back and like, $1,000 is $1,000.
I've taken six shots in a night before.
Why not?
So you took the shots?
I took the shots.
But I feel like you're painting it in a, in a, in the sense of, let's just test my guys.
Can I ask you this?
Besides that comment, have I not said everything exactly correct so far?
Yes.
Okay.
So.
That's a big comment, though.
It's a big comment.
Twist the story a little bit.
So I give him the $1,000.
We walk up to the room out of a $1,000 chip, boom, give the coin flip.
He flips in the air.
He catches it.
He leaves.
I set a timer on my phone.
I go grab myself a little bit of pump.
Hit the glutes today.
And got a little pump.
Set a timer for one hour.
Around the hour it hits.
I go, Mitch, how are we doing, brother?
He's not so great.
We end up in Mitch's room.
Will is not even there yet.
And we get there.
and I go, Mitch, we need to talk about it.
Like, you're getting drunk on the job when we have a whole lot of work to do today.
How do you feel?
Now, I will say it was a joke.
I was kidding.
That's what you wanted to hear.
Because I thought about going to the whole process again,
but there's a vlog that's going to come out where you guys will literally be able to see all of it.
But essentially, Will and I, or I started it, I put Mitch in an absolute blender about,
essentially the horrible bosses thing where the guy,
pours him the scotch at 11 a.m. and makes him drink it. That's basically what I did to him.
We go, we knock it out. He's, Mitch is in a blender. So now he's drunk and he's got anxiety.
A tough combination. Through the roof. I text Will. I said, hey, we got Mitch to do six shots
for $1,000 when you get here, when you see him, give him shit about being drunk on the job.
So I go, we go downstairs. You guys got down there before me for whatever reason, but I walk over there
and he's just tearing into you.
Viscerating.
Eviscerating you.
Where I'm watching, my boy,
question life for a second.
He's having a, he's having a tough time.
That bus ride over to,
was it the fan zone?
Oh my God.
You were, well, it was through the interview.
It was the interview.
It was the interview.
It was the interview.
It was the awkward.
I was like, is this a joke at this point
or is this real now?
Can I be honest with you?
I felt the same way
the way Will was going at him.
Because he did start raising his voice.
and kind of coming at you, but
I have the text of it's like
LOL, LOL, I was planning on doing that.
Ha ha ha. I'm going to get him good.
Now, shout out Will for being a method actor, really jumping into the role.
He got me good.
Being a horrible boss.
I was stressing out, like, to the point where I asked each Jack, JP and Garrett, I'm like,
yo, am I all right?
I know.
They told us he was to the bathroom before the day and upon.
They're like, yo, Mitch has literally asked us if he's good.
And they're like, yeah, bro, you're fine.
Like, don't worry about it.
I'm like, bro, he's coming.
I know Taylor's joking, but Will is like, seems kind of pissed.
Which I'm glad Will did that because I did come at, I instigated the thing and then to come
at you after that, it's like, obviously it's, there's some joke there, but I'm sure you,
there's a piece of you.
I was like, is you serious though?
Like is he really trying to put me in the spin zone?
Will coming in that hard, not even being a part of it, sealed the, we'll call it a prank,
sealed the prank for us, which I really, I really enjoyed.
So Mitchie's in a blender and then that evening we go, or not evening, that afternoon, we go to
UFC headquarters and do the podcast with Dana.
Dana has zero sleep.
6 a.m. 5 a.m. whenever he left the night before.
He's riproaring around. We get there. He's signing howler head whiskey.
He's, uh, he's, you know, chat everybody up. He's on the phone. People are grabbing
them left and right. And it's like, we're supposed to start at 2.30, 2.35 has 2.40 hits.
And you get it, man. The guy's grinding through it. He's got, he's got no sleep.
Ends up sitting down. And I go, hey, how much time do you have? And he goes, just rip it, man.
As long as you guys need. Once again, talking to the character of Dana White.
we end up having the interview you're about to listen to.
We end up having an incredible conversation with this man.
His mindset, the way he approaches it, the Theo Vaughn podcast, where Peloton, he starts to go rip it into Peloton.
He touches on the Bud Light stuff that we all, that we've all seen.
They have the Dillon Mulvaney thing, right?
Proud boys are up in arms about it.
And he's like, this is a great partnership for us.
And he starts to go into why it's an incredible partnership for us.
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we do the interview with Dana.
It was great. It was fun.
Just like I said, man, I cannot
tell you how much I love that, man. It's honestly
weird how much I'm going to talk about in this podcast, but it needs
to be said. After that, what do we do after
that? We went to the fan zone.
We go to the fan zone. That's the thing.
Right. The lights, we did all
that. And
that night, we get back.
We grab a little dinner. Boys grab a little sushi.
Talk about playing a little bit. We played.
I think I
did I win?
Yeah I won a little bit
but not much.
It was a smaller hands type of night.
Smaller hands type of night
but I had that little 30 piece
that did have tossed me
the night before
and Jack is truly putting on a clinic
of how to win money
and how to bet
when to stay,
when to hit.
He was he was hemathe.
Will was in there
Will was not a big cards guy
but he was enjoying himself
got a little too aggressive
at the wrong time
and it went downhill.
I think he was down five at one point.
Now we got the boy right.
Don't get a twisted.
We got the boy right towards the end of the night.
And so we're hanging, doing our thing.
The milk boys show up.
Steve will do it who, you know,
after you hear the story,
Steve and I have become great friends at this point.
I really enjoy him.
I think Drusky was there.
Yeah.
Yeah, Drewski popped up around 11, 11 p.m.
Guys just funny, man.
It's just dudes you really don't know.
I think Bradley Martin was there.
What's the girl's name?
that does the podcast with him. What is her name? Sarah.
Okay. We don't like Sarah? No. No.
Okay. Yeah, yeah. The way you said Sarah, I didn't know.
Just Sarah. I think, I don't know our last name. They're just, they're like gym influencers.
Yeah, Jim. Yeah, I know Brad is and yeah, he loves the chat. He was doing the stream
the night after the night I'm talking about right now and he loves the chat. They do a good job of
essentially being what they are, fitness influencer. And they have got a massive brand because
of it. So you're around all these people that are inevitably in the same game that we all
are. It's a good networking experience. Even if it's not the same kind of brand that we're doing,
it's great to be around them and learn about the personalities.
Dana walks in, we're having a good time.
I'm wondering, am I going to go or is he going to go?
He starts.
And brother, it was hell.
It was hell.
Now, when we went to the UFC headquarters, Dana kind of took me in the
saying, he's like, hey, man, you didn't have to stay all last night,
but I appreciate you doing that.
Like, that's cool.
That's a cool, bro move of you.
And so thank you.
Thank you.
Just saying thank you.
Dana goes down twice as much as he was the night before.
And it is an all-out.
war. It is, you know, slowly but truly, the boys in the back, they start trickling off.
Drewski, out of here. You know, everyone kind of starts to leave and it's really just me, Dana,
Hunter, who, if you guys don't know who Hunter is, his story, we talk about his story a little bit
on the podcast of Dana. I fucking love that man. His boy Skip, his other boy, Marty, and we're
kind of watching our boy go to war. And we're up till 11 a.m. the next day. We're up until 11 a.m.
So I didn't get sleep the night before, 11 a.m. the next day.
And he's down two.
I'll just say the word number two.
And you can probably piece it together from there.
He comes back from two down $10,000.
He's literally one hand away from being up $20,000.
And this is right around 7 a.m.
He loses that one.
He loses another one.
And it just spirals to where it's 10.30 in the morning,
11 in the morning, and he's down
$500,000.
And he's like, looks at the deal, he goes, I have to go to a meeting.
I have to go to UFC now.
Go ahead and put a hold on this.
I'll be back later to win it back.
So he postpones the war to essentially go to his other wars
that he has to go take care of.
We grab breakfast with the boys.
We go watch a little college football, Michigan.
Yikes, which I'll probably talk about that a little bit
after we get into the weekend recap.
After the weekend recap.
And then I go upstairs around 20,
12, 15, 1230, grab a 45 minute nap.
And then we went and met with some people,
went to that little club, met with some people
about potential sponsor stuff.
They were awesome.
They were a great time.
I'm not going to say the sponsor right now
because there's nothing set in stone.
But I will say it would be a phenomenal partnership.
Would it not?
It would be incredible.
Had a good time.
Mitch might have fell in love.
No?
Didn't fall in love, but I had a good time.
I think that sounds worse.
I didn't fall in love yet.
But I'll say this.
Spring's not too far away.
Right?
I love it.
I love it.
And you know what?
We'll see what happens
come Super Bowl when we get back
in Las Vegas.
I think it's the next time
we'll be there.
We go to that,
then we go to the drone show,
and the only thing
I'm thinking about is sleep.
The only thing at this point,
I'm thinking about asleep,
I was like, we've done,
we've done what we've had to do
for Durasel.
We did the vlog.
The boys want to go to a magic show,
and I'm just like,
did I not say it like noon?
Hey, hey, the minute I can get some sleep tonight.
I'm going to get some sleep tonight.
And the boys all go to go to a magic show.
I was like, hey, well,
I'll drop you guys off.
Then I'm going back to the Red Rocks.
I'm going to get some sleep.
I could feel the boys were a little bummed.
Were you guys not?
Yeah.
Bummed about...
Me not going.
I knew you had...
You needed sleep.
Which you didn't do.
But...
Which I did not do.
That's fine.
Because...
Yeah.
But I want to say my full intent was to go get sleep.
Yeah.
My full intent was to go get sleep.
So I take the bus back to the Red Rocks.
And as I'm sitting there, I...
I didn't say this part, but I got a little squirrely during Dana's second night fight with the tables.
And I wanted to go play a little bit myself.
That 30 that Dana helped me out with.
That's gone.
I lost that.
I got to zero.
I was like,
let me get the hell out of here.
So I'm now even and sometimes evens to W.
I call my wife.
She's like,
oh, man,
you didn't win nothing.
That's crazy.
Usually you win.
That's wild.
And I kind of feel to myself,
hey,
maybe I should go just play a couple of hands and see if I can, like, win, you know,
five or ten and kind of move on.
He'd come out a little net positive.
But there's a piece of me that's like, wouldn't it be sick if I was able to win Dana his money back?
And that is where the night of the most incredible gambling experience of my life started.
I get to the Red Rocks.
I go into the high roller room.
Who's sitting there?
Steve will do it.
Smoking a marlboro red and drinking some pink martini with a sugar salt with a sugar rim.
And we're sitting there.
He's playing a little bit.
And I'm like, hey, you mind if I jump in?
He's like, no, yeah, go ahead, buddy, do what you want.
And one of us says, wouldn't it be sick if we won Dana's money back?
If we won him $500,000 and we get, you know, we get all excited maybe, hey, what if it does happen?
What if it does happen?
And so we both pull out $10,000.
He pulls out from his credit line.
I pull up from my credit line.
We have $10,000 to play with.
We're playing a thousand dollars.
A lot of money, but like, you know, very conservative.
You're trying to win $500,000.
Now, after a couple of shoes, that $10,000 is $25,000.
And it's like, okay, well, maybe I can take this other 10.
I'm going to go pay off that credit line.
So now I'm even, I don't know, I don't owe the hotel anything.
And so Steve and I are there.
We nickel and dime slowly and slowly to the point where I'm up like 70,000.
Steve's up 45,000.
And it's like, okay, we're getting to a point here where we might actually be able to,
you know, make a press to win the 500,000.
It's still a dream.
It's still like a non-reality.
It's truly impossible to do that.
but we keep playing.
And here's the cool thing.
There was a point where I was doing well
and Steve was not, just how the other cards were going.
I give Steve $5,000.
I give Steve $10,000.
Then there's a moment where I start going down.
Steve Bink gives me $5,000.
We're truly playing this table as a team.
And it's like, vibes are high.
He's hype.
I'm hype.
Bradley's sit in the middle, talking to the chat,
getting chirped about eating ice cream,
saying he needs to eat a hot dog,
but he doesn't eat the hot dog
because he doesn't want to get tripped on
by the whole entire world.
It's a unique experience that we're all kind of in right now.
And we're figuring out a way for the greater good, not because of me, not because of Steve, but for Dana to win this man $500,000.
Now, we, I tell him, I was like, man, I got to get to sleep.
I've got some sleep because I have to be up at 3.30 in the morning.
I've got to get up at 3.30 in the morning to catch us 5 a.m. flight to get back to Nashville.
Boys got kids.
I got a wife.
I want to go home and I want to be a product member of our family while I get back.
So I was like, we got to press a little bit.
I lose a couple.
and then I put a $25,000 hand down.
I put two $25,000 handsdowns, excuse me.
One's a double, nine and two,
and then one is two-eighths.
So I get, so I obviously double that,
and I split the two-eighths.
So we're talking about $100,000 right now on the table.
Then I get a 10 on 1-8, and I get a 3.
Well, those of you play cards,
you know you always double 11,
regardless of where you're at.
I double.
I want to double.
Here's the problem is I have now bled out the entire amount of money that I have won to try
to get Dana his money back.
And I am now scared that I have to go reaching to my own credit line and possibly come out
negative from this experience when the whole goal was, hey, win a couple bucks.
Get out of here.
Turns into winning Dana money.
Without thinking, be without me even having the opportunity to say, all right, give me 25.
Steve takes $25,000 of his own chips.
Steve will do it.
It takes $25,000 of his own chips, takes it and puts it right next to it to double.
That's the kind of guy that's the kind of guy he is.
That's the kind of guy.
That's who we're fighting for is Dana.
Dealer has a six.
Flips over a five.
Flips over a two.
Flips over a three.
What number we have now?
11.
Two is, we're at 14.
The next card, a king.
Bus.
Steve's on a chair.
jumps in the air.
I catch him.
like a ballerina and we are jumping up and down so excited that now it has become
a absolute reality that we can win Dana his money back.
I give Steve 50.
We are now sitting good.
We start playing a little bit more.
It gets to that 1130 range.
And I go, I pull Steve over and Mike, man, if we really want to do this, we've got
to press and either lose it all or make this money for Dana.
We played one hand where I had 15,000, 50,000.
15,000 and Steve had 15,000, 15,000. So $60,000 on the table. We lose. We win the next one
and we win the next one. Now we are right in that 450 range, right around the 450 range where it's like
if we just win one more hand. Think about where we came from here. We both took out $20,000 and
paid that off. And now between Steve and I, we are at $450,000 with a chance to make Dana
his money back after going to war two nights in a row and being the position he was.
So he put one more hand down, 15, 15, 15, 15.
Cards are dealt.
Six.
16.
15.
14.
13.
Those are the cards that Steve and I have.
The dealer is showing six.
The dealer puts down six more cards, six of them.
And bust that 22.
We lose our.
our fucking mind because like I just said, $20,000 in, we're now $510,000 up. We have truly lost our mind.
And it was so incredibly insane. And I don't think, I think if Steve and I go in there and play,
we don't win. I think we don't win. I think we both end up busting out if we're playing for
ourselves. Something about karma, something about energy, something about health. Something about
helping people, good people, even in categories where we all know Dana White doesn't need help.
That was the reason why we won that money.
So we're sitting there.
We have the 500,000.
They have these little, these blue chips that say $25,000.
Those equal out to $500,000 with $9,500 left over.
And it's like, hey, what do we do with this?
Oh, let's put it on one more hand.
We'll see.
And if we win it, we'll split it.
And look at us.
We're both walking away with around 10 grand.
We get blackjack.
We got blackjack, boys.
Hey, we got blackjack boys.
That's the kind of night we were dealing with.
Now, I don't understand where the enthusiasm's at
because this is a hype story.
We heard, we heard.
But how insane is that?
It's insane.
It's insane.
Yes, insane.
It should have never happened.
Never in a million years.
It could not be done again.
Could not be done again.
So we FaceTime, Dana.
We're losing our minds.
We've won it.
We go cash out and I go to my room and try to sleep.
I barely sleep.
And Steve calls me,
he's like,
hey, Dana's going to be here in a little bit.
I think it'd be cool if we were both here to give him the money.
So I go.
I was like,
hey,
I'll send a timer for when I have to leave from my flight.
Call me when he's about 10 minutes out.
I'll do whatever.
He calls me to like 2.30 in the morning.
So I get like two hours of sleep,
hour and a half of sleep.
And I cruise down there.
Dana's ecstatic.
Dana's,
you know,
Dana,
we all know Dana doesn't need help with his finances.
But there's been numerous occasions where Dana's helped me in the gambling space.
He's helped Steve.
And it was a very cool opportunity for us to help Dana out and just kind of do something for him that a lot of people wouldn't do.
And kind of show Dana like, you're our boy.
And we're not just here for you because you're Dana White and X, Y, and Z.
And that, I feel like it was a big staple moment for all three of our relationships.
And it was, it was the fucking best man.
It was just the camaraderie.
it was working for something that doesn't, like,
that you don't really have a whole lot to gain in
in that specific space.
It was so awesome to be a part of.
And he was, he was thrilled, man.
He was, he was, he was like, you know, calls me.
He's like, we're family now, we're this, where that, like,
he was so appreciative.
And I just thought it was the coolest experience ever, man.
I thought it was so damn cool.
But yeah, that's how the weekend ended.
I am so bummed.
We'll probably cut this part out.
But I'm bummed.
One of you guys weren't there to film it.
Because it would have been sick.
I know.
Well, when you left, you said you're going to sleep.
Yeah, but you guys came in the room.
You saw what I was doing.
Yeah, but you saw it.
I was cooking a little bit when you saw me.
I was cooking.
Was I not?
I was chefing.
But yeah, I would have been sick if you guys were there.
I'll probably try to get that film from Steve
and see if we can add that to the deal.
But we can't put him on YouTube, can we?
Brutal.
brutal.
But yeah, that's the story, boys.
And it was,
it was awesome.
And I literally tweet out, you know,
greatest gambling experience of my life
with Steve will do, blah, blah,
who comes to the body bag?
I'm Michigan, man.
My boy, Dana, or not Dan,
Dave Portnoy is like, you know,
reached into his cool gambling
tweet guy simulator and pulls this one out,
which is on a hilarious chirp.
And when I saw it at 6 p.m. the night after,
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dude, Joe Burrow.
Tough sledding for the boy there, man.
I wonder if the Bengals are actually going to get a massive fine.
They're probably going to get in big trouble, right?
They said they can get in.
I saw something, and I think this is a little over-exaggerating,
but how popular sports gambling is
that they could be in become like a lawsuit
because the amount of money that was probably put on them.
Yeah.
The Bengals didn't report anything about an injury,
so they could get in massive trouble.
Massive trouble.
You saw Dave's, when he put $100,
$50,000.
He went $67,000 to win a million and then lost.
67,000 to win a million.
But that was for them to, that was a future's bet to win the Super Bowl.
But I think he made a tweet the night of the Thursday night game.
It says, I still believe in the Bengals.
I think it was like $130,000 for Bengals money line, maybe.
And when Joe gets hurt, it's 10 to 7 in that game.
Like, you're looking at probably the Bengals being able to pull that one off.
Obviously, it's not going to be the score that it was before Joe got hurt.
But it just sucks, man.
And yeah.
tactically the wrong move for the bangles, not to say anything,
to essentially get a competitive edge over the Ravens.
But, man, that sucks.
And seeing him try to throw the ball on the sideline was just brutal.
It seemed like it was a tough weekend for all gamblers, slips and picks.
I think the best record we have right now is Chet Savage and the meal are at 500.
500 after that game.
The Giants go off.
The Giants go off against the commanders.
All of a sudden, they can score points.
We're talking about they score 17 points a game barely.
the 28th in the league in scoring,
and all of a sudden they want to put up a bajillion against the commanders.
The commanders can't put anything together.
Sam Howell has three interceptions.
That is wild, bro.
Wild that they were able to do that.
That is just crazy.
But yeah, ma'am, that is a, it was a wild week.
Should we talk about the Titans?
We can't.
What do we do?
Tank.
I think so.
I think that's the answer.
Yeah, I mean, Houston lost.
Houston won.
Houston beat the Cardinals.
Yeah, you're right.
Seattle, yeah, I don't talk about it.
Yeah, you don't want to talk about it.
The AFC South seems like it's going to be controlled by
the Houston Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
They play this week.
So that'll be an interesting dynamic.
I think the Texans are at 5 and 4 now,
and then the Jaguars are 7 and 3, correct?
7 and 4?
6 and 4 and 7.
So this is a big game between Jacksonville and Houston
to see who's going to ride the top of the AFC South.
Colts 500, just a weird squad.
They're still in the fight.
I don't get it.
Shout out Quentin Nelson, love him to death.
I hope he's all pro again.
But damn, bro, that's, yeah, three and seven.
Three and seven.
And now, sitting back not being a player and being a fan
and being a fan of the Titans, obviously they're not going to tank.
They're not sitting there up at upper management going, oh, let's tank.
Let's try to go get this receiver.
Let's just try to get this off.
offensive lineman, but for the future of the franchise, it's probably better that they lose games.
It's better that lose games and have more draft capital so they can go and get it because,
you know, we were talking about, you know, how it's tough to protect Will Levis right now.
And the offensive line was having a tough time yesterday.
I know a couple of the boys who have been playing actually pretty good ball had a really tough time.
And if you're like, all right, let's go out and get a tackle.
We got to go to get a tackle.
Nick's been hurt.
He got the shoulder.
He's out for the season.
We don't know what we're doing at left tackle.
Well, you look at the free agent market next year.
Who's going to be a free agent that's worth getting?
Jonah Williams?
Jonah Williams?
No, no, Jonah and I had some back and forth because I said something about in a podcast
how the Bengals need a left tackle and he DM me.
He's like, I hope you're kidding.
And I was like, well, tell your girlfriend to stop texting me type stuff,
as if the Bengals were the girlfriends.
And I was kind of joking.
But, you know, I think he's not even on the, he's not the Bengals anymore, right?
he's hurt he's hurt i saw another one dwayne brown tyrant smith dway brown's been in the league for so long tyron smith
both great players tyrant smith for sure a hallfamer dwayne brown might also also be a hallfamer as well
but you need to get guys in there that are like studs and do you go draft because you also need to help
it a receiver and the defense hasn't been having hasn't been playing that great either so it's just
tough and looking at it with a critical eyes fucking hard man it's hard because you want i want the
titans to do well i want them to crush it but it's what's the best of the best of
best thing for the Titans
tanking, which they're not going to
do. They're not going to try and do at least. They might still
do it. And we're 3 and 1 at home. We have the Panthers next week.
Yeah. You'll beat the Panthers.
That seems like a pretty reasonable game to win.
And then we just have a bunch of divisional games too stacked in the last
month of the game. I mean, of the season. So
who knows? Tough.
Yeah, Panthers, you win that game.
That gets you farther and farther away.
Office of linemen or Marvin Harrison Jr., who do you want?
offensive lineman. You saw in the last two weeks how many times Will has been pressured.
We don't need our rookie QB taking that many hits, feeling like the non-confidence factor too.
You want to have a little bit of time to set up back in that pocket. We'll see.
Obviously, Marvin Harrison Jr. be a stud, but can't do anything if your quarterback can't get the ball out.
Interesting. Teg. Brock Bowers.
Another stud.
Like if you're losing games the way you are right now, these are all options.
Yeah.
Which you get these like franchise type of dudes.
Marvin Harris Jr., like we got the game this week and that dude's scary good.
Scary good.
It's a lot, man.
You know, I mean, Cardinals, I think they're down towards the bottom of the list right now.
I think they're going to do a whole lot better.
You saw the way Kyler Murray was kind of dished it out.
They ended up losing to the Houston Texans.
But I think they're going to have a better, they're going to do better as the season goes.
And I think they're going to win more games and they lose from here on out.
Now, who else is the bottom of the pack?
Bengals are kind of dead right now.
I can see them just dropping a whole bunch of games now with Joe Burrow being out for the season torn ligament in the hand.
That's tough.
Panthers, yep, they'll stay at the bottom.
Giants, most bipolar team in the league after last week.
Bears, who the Bears play?
Because they were in a fight.
Bears play.
They ended up losing.
They played somebody last week.
I forget who it was.
Lions.
That was a good game.
And the Lions, Dan Campbell, that's coached the year right now in our heads, right?
Gotta be coached the year.
And he's an absolute slug fest with the Bears.
Now, division rival, who knows how much that plays a factor.
If the boys are sleepwalking a little bit, I don't know.
Patriots, they're going to stay towards the bottom of the list.
So now you're looking at that, you know, you for sure want to be in the top 10.
You're going to be in the top 10, brother, if it keeps going the way it is.
But it's hard because the bucks, they're going to win games.
Commanders, they're weird, but they're going to win games.
the Jets, I don't know what the fuck
the Jets are doing right now.
They got quarterback issues up the ass.
They bench Zach Wilson yesterday.
They bring in, was it Boyd?
Boyle.
Bring him Boyle.
He didn't do a whole lot better either, right?
Zach Wilson is benched.
Jack Wilson.
Oh, they just announced it?
Yeah.
And it's like now this Cinderella story
of Aaron Rogers coming back
after a torn Achilles in December,
it's like, don't.
Don't.
You got to win, unless you win this week
against the dolphins
and puts you in a position,
and maybe fight for something like,
what are we coming back for
other than how insane of a story
that would be.
But I think it's even better
if we just see him come back
and practice on the football field.
And as a Jets fan,
you sit there and you're like,
man, I can't wait for next year.
Because that's where you get
when he gets towards the bottom of this list.
I've been 3 and 13.
I've been 2 and 14.
I haven't been there as a fan watching,
but as a player,
you want to win every game.
The boys are going to do everything
that can do win every single game.
But for the greater good,
you got guys that are going to start getting older.
Jeffrey Simmons is his study.
He's going to start getting older.
What happens with Derek Henry
at the end of this year. He's a free agent. Is he stay? Probably not. He's probably not a
titan next year. You know, you see them. They're not using him as much. I think he ran the ball
13 times for 38 yards. Couldn't get into that fourth or fifth step. You having troubles
on the offensive line. Trailing Berks has been hurt. DeAndre Hopkins has a big game a few weeks
ago. And DeAndre Hopkins is a study. He'll continue to be a study. I hope he's on the team next
year. But, you know, you got to get will Levis protection to get the ball to Hopkins.
But you don't want just the one guy being Hopkins because Trayland,
Berks, the last two years has shown that
he's got to stay healthy. It's a tough
world we're living in as Titan fans, which we
essentially have to instill our trust
and ran and help to God. We use the
phrase cook, goes up and cooks up
a nice five-star meal during the
off season. It's a wild deal
out here, bro. It's a wild deal. Let's hit the
twisted question, and then let's jump into
some college football, specifically just
Michigan.
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twisted tea today. Go ahead, Mitch. Now, we had a little trouble last week. Did you reach out
to the internet or did you? Is this you? Jack reached out to the internet for me,
but I also thought of one or found one, but I would like if Jack pulled up the tweets as well.
All right. So the one I found or thought of or whatever, would you rather, would you rather
be able to see ghosts but not interact with them?
or be able to interact and talk with them,
but you can't really see them.
I think that's an easy answer.
I'd rather be able to interact with them and not see them.
Because if you're just seeing ghosts and you can't interact with them,
that's just more scary than anything else.
Like, what are they up to?
What's their motive?
Why are you over here kind of just poisely dragging your little gown
across the floor as I'm trying to go to bed tonight?
You know?
With conversation, yeah, it's a little nerve wracking that you can't see them.
But at the same time, I'm able to, hey, what are we up to, brother?
we come in peace
or we got a bit of an issue here
do I need to grab the holy water
and the cross
and start doing an exorcism
or what?
So for me that's an easy boy
right there.
That's simple.
What about you, Jackie?
What are you doing?
Was it talk to ghosts
and not see him
or see ghosts
and not talk to him?
Essentially.
What was your answer?
I would rather not see them
and be able to interact with them.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Same.
Right?
Because if you can see them
and not interact
there's kind of like a weird
creepy factor there.
If you can just talk to them,
I bet majority of ghosts
are pretty good people,
spirits.
You'd like to think so.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, there's always bad seeds, but I do think that, yeah, I'd rather get some knowledge.
Instead of just like, imagine if you just saw a ghost, but you can't interact with it, communicate and just like sitting in there.
It's like that, to me, is off-putting.
I'd rather to have someone hearing someone talk and not seeing them.
Seems like an easy answer.
Yeah.
Was there anything that grabbed your eye from the internet?
Um, uh, I got time.
This is what I have to do today.
Mitch
What do you feel about getting drunk on the job
Not very good about it
I mean I'm still sort of like wondering if Will and I are okay
No you and Will are fine
Don't worry about that at all
It would be a ridiculous thing
Because at the end of the day you still wait
Did you drop that might be a good one
What's that?
If you could transform into an animal
Would you rather be a pet like a domesticated animal
Or a wild animal
And that comes from Hayden underscore Cloe
82 on Twitter
I would rather be a wild animal.
I think being a domesticated animal,
if I'm a predator, I'm a wolf,
or a polar bear,
top of the food chain type stuff,
or just a bear in general,
there's the issue of scavenging for your own food
and making sure you have to stay alive.
And it's...
And think about disease.
Like, if you're...
There's no vets out in the wild.
If you're a domesticated dog or something,
you're getting fed, you know,
two square meals a day,
you're sleeping whenever you want.
If you get sick, you're going to the doctor immediately.
Right. That's what the good owner.
Imagine being a dog in your house.
Yeah.
Like, I would not want to be there right now because I'm at war with my dogs.
No, I think about what if you get a bad dog owner?
How much animal abuse do we hear about on the daily?
And so you're a good dog owner.
I unfortunately am a good dog owner, even though I'm having a hard time with my animals right now.
So they're getting love.
They're getting affection.
They're getting the resources they need when they're needed.
But man, I think about like, not all people are good.
and I don't get to choose that.
So if you're put in that position,
like you just got to be a dog
getting beat up on
or getting neglected or whatever.
And that's tough.
For me, out in the wild,
your boy's making his own rules.
I'm out there.
I'm able to, you know,
rely on myself and myself alone.
And if I'd be a part of a cool wolf pack,
rip around,
I ain't got to be the alpha wolf.
Let me hang out for a little bit.
Let me chill with the boys.
I'm going to hang out.
You want to get some meat?
I'll help you hunt.
I'm a great role player in that situation.
Adam will be.
I'm a social guy,
so probably some,
sort of social pack animal.
It got to be a predator.
Yeah, orca would be sick.
Orca would be sick.
That might be the most perfect one to pick.
Yeah.
That's literally the biggest apex predator in the ocean.
Yeah.
No one is fucking.
Except for the Megalodon.
You just don't see them.
Yeah, but I think orca is great.
You're smart.
You are great at hunting.
You're rolling with a pod the whole time.
That's a great pick.
I'm taking orca.
Good pick.
Great pick.
What are you going to be?
Are you thinking with domesticated?
No, probably wild animal.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, there we go.
But, yeah, Orca, too.
I mean, my Twitter followers, no, I'm Orca gang.
I run deep in the Orca world.
Hell yeah, brother.
I might go domesticated.
Yeah, even after all that?
Yeah.
Might just be like a golden retriever or something.
Just be the goodest boy.
You'd be like a...
Too many stipulations.
It's like, do you have a good home if you're domesticated?
Are you a dog or a cat?
or you like simple as like a beta fish,
just sitting on someone's shelf.
Right.
Well, you get to pick, no?
I mean, this is a hypothetical question.
So we make the rules.
We're making the rules out here.
Who had that question?
That was Hayden Kloh.
Shout out, Hayden Kloh,
Haden underscore Klo, 82.
Good for you, brother.
Good pick, good pick.
Appreciate you guys interacting with the boys
on the social Madias.
But yeah, dude.
Yeah, for sure.
wild animal for sure.
That way, even if you're in a tough position as a wild animal,
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I was trying to figure out how to pick this thing up.
I might take one of these, actually.
because you guys heard about my weekend.
That was an awesome time.
That was a good time.
A rip-roaring time.
Speaking of rip-roaring times,
this weekend,
I will be traveling to Ann Arbor, Michigan.
I'll be bringing Mitch Carstley,
the booze bag himself.
We will be headed out to Ann Arbor.
He is a, we know about Mitch.
We know the kind of front-runner fan he is.
He'll probably be wearing Michigan gear when we're there.
At least he should absolutely be.
We've been granted with sideline passes.
Shout out Dave, Dave Abloff, man.
They are going through a whirlwind of issues up there with the allegations, all that stuff.
They're running around trying to figure it out.
And I know Dave is super busy trying to clear the name of the University of Michigan because
they've done nothing wrong with.
They're just allegations.
So shout out Dave for that, man.
We're going to go check out the game, do a little bit of a vlog.
Last minute trip, too.
Because I asked you about what, a month ago, if it was a possibility.
Yeah.
And I told you that I said I was going to be in town for Thanksgiving.
So we were going to go last year, but something last minute.
It was way too last minute to kind of figure it out.
But this year, I'm ecstatic to be going.
We did college game day.
And that was cool.
That was very cool.
We also got the college football show.
Barstow's college football show is going to be out there.
Texted Dave the minute they string up out there.
It's like, hey, I want to be a part of that.
He hit me back.
He said, we'll find a place for you.
So I'm fired up on that.
That's going to be awesome.
Big Ev's going to be out there.
We have ourselves a nice little bet about that game.
If he wins, if Ohio State wins, he's able to,
I want to do some bullshit.
Like, I think it's like, do his fantasy.
draft at my pool. It's like, all right, but you could actually just came and did that.
But if that's what you want to do. And at Michigan wins, he's got to put on, I'm going to give
a Taylor-Lawand jersey. He's got to put that thing on and then sing the victors in it, which I'm
going to love. Him squeezing that tight little jersey is just going to make my heart sing.
You're going to absolutely sing. So that game, though, man, it's scary. It's scary, but I have
full confidence. The university mission is going to be able to pull that thing off. Those guys are
dialed in. JJ, the last couple of weeks, not the best showing that Penn State. I mean, he was
actually only seven for eight with like 64 yards.
It's actually not a bad showing it off
for the amount of times you threw the ball.
But this past week against Maryland,
one great, right?
Through his first picks as he did against bowling green,
gives him four picks on the year.
But here's what I'll say about that is Maryland
was the trapeas to trap games.
If you go back to August when we're reviewing
all these games in the season,
what did I say?
I say, Michigan's going 12 and O.
The scariest game on the schedule is Maryland.
He's going to beat Penn State,
the way they beat Penn State essentially.
Then you're going to go to Maryland,
or they went to Maryland.
and then you're going to be sleepwalking.
Everyone's talking about the game already.
College game release is a week early
when I think they usually release week of
that they're going to this X, Y, Z spot.
They said, hey, we're going to
Ann Arbor for the game, two teams that are 11 and O
buying for a playoff spot and a Bayton
East contender.
So all eyes were already on the game.
They squeak it out.
Who cares?
Like, throw that one to the wind, throw the stats to the wind on that one.
We're in Ann Arbor.
We have Ryan Day's number.
I like Ryan Day.
I do.
I'm getting to meet him in the spring tour
in Columbus. I enjoyed being around him.
He's a good guy. This week, though,
fuck Ryan Day.
But fuck Columbus, Ohio. And the weird thing is, I know I go off every year
Michigan State plays Michigan
or Michigan plays Michigan State.
And I say, I'll fuck you guys, blah, blah, and they bring up you. I was one and
three and they get a 43 rushing yards. I don't like Michigan State.
I think it's a shitty school.
I think it's a shitty program. I don't like them.
They're disrespectful.
William Golston punched me in the face one time.
That's never sat well with me since then.
I just do not like them.
There's a level of respect that I do have for Ohio State.
Am I going to boast and kind of build it up a little bit more?
Yeah, because we're playing the game of social media.
Maybe I'm going to talk about it.
But if you listen to this show, if you're Tier 1,
you've stuck with us in this hour before the Dana White podcast.
You know, listen, I respect Ohio State.
I do.
But fuck Ohio State.
Do we have anything else?
Oh, and also, we got to talk about Nebraska, Iowa.
Nebraska 5 and 6 right now
5 and 6 when Will said 9 and 4 season
I said 6 and 6.
I sat here in August
it said 6 and 6 now
they've dropped 3 in a row 4 in a row
and they were up 14-0
versus Wisconsin everything was looking good
young Purdy was out there slinging it around
and it just didn't go their way
now they had to go play an Iowa team who's already
clinched the Big 10 West
it's tough bro
it's so tough for me to sit here and tell
these people that Nebraska's going to win this game.
But I am.
I'm going to sit here and tell you, like, we need this for so many reasons.
One, Will's well-being.
Nebraska, whether they win or lose, they're already turning in the right direction
because they won one more game than it did last year.
But we need to save Matt Rule because Matt Rule is becoming the quote guy.
The guy that just says the quotes and it sounds super awesome and it makes the big headlines,
but they're not winning games.
We need a couple dubs out of Matt Rule.
We need to get into a bowl game because if we get into a bowl game,
you get that monkey off your back of being.
like, you know, looked at as a super shitty program.
And now you're able to say, hey, we've made a, we've officially made a bowl game.
We're training in the right direction and watch out for us in two, three years.
That's what we need for Nebraska.
And I like Matt Rule.
I think, you know, maybe he was colluding with Rutgers and Ohio State trying to steal Michigan signs.
But, you know, that'll all come out.
That's all still allegations.
So I think it's going to go, I hope it goes Nebraska's way.
I really do because we got to look out for the boy and his well-being.
I think if it all works out, we might be headed to the big tension.
championship as well the week after that when Michigan wins.
Yeah, boys.
We need to a couple more things.
A couple more things.
I'm going to get you out here real quick.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Have a hell of a Thanksgiving.
It's a great time.
The day after Thanksgiving, we're jumping into Christmas.
My family's already just completely disobeyed me and jumped into that.
Yeah, let's see what we're thankful for.
I'm thankful for Jack, taking that L.
Someone spends $60,000 to take him down.
that's what I'm thankful for right now.
Go ahead, Mitch.
I was going to say actually something legit, but if you were going to...
No, no, no.
I'll say something else after.
Go ahead, Mitch.
I'll get real.
I'm thankful for obviously this being our job.
Like, just being able to come here and kind of escape, like, what's going on in your personal life.
Because the last six months, my personal life has been a bit of in shambles.
So being able to come here and kind of forget what's going on and just kind of hang with the boys and just kind of hang with the boys and
shoot the shit and do the stuff that we do and travel everywhere.
Like, you can't, you're not going to be able to do this at any other job.
So I'm super, super thankful for that.
And also just like another friends and family, like heavy relying on the friends and
everybody's like by my side.
This year just been a rough year for the kid.
But like in just the family, you know, you can just pick up the phone and call them whenever.
Just say what's up checking in on you.
Just kind of stuff like that.
So thank you for you guys.
You, you, like the, the Boston boys themselves and also the, the friends and family.
So, happy Thanksgiving.
Here's what I'll say about that, Mitch.
I have seen the last, as how, how, was this two years being here now?
Here.
I came, I came, uh, 2020, September, September 2020.
So, September 2020.
Here's what I'll say about you is when you came in, we already had a really good
core group of guys that all had a great relationship and watching you take the time to
integrate into this group and not just kind of bulldozing your way in and, you know,
whatever, which is not your personality, you've done an amazing job of navigating a new workspace
and becoming a critical part of this team. And we do appreciate you. Obviously, you can always
lean on the boys. We love you to death. And so I'm, I'm super grateful for what you're grateful
for, because this is what it's all about, brother, keeping the locker room alive. Jackie.
I'm thankful for the obvious stuff, friends, family, family specifically. My younger brother
from Hawaii, he came back last week and we got to surprise my mom for her birthday,
which is really special. She had no idea.
So he's in town.
My older sister who lives in Tampa with my brother-in-law and my niece are coming in town this week.
So, and it's her first birthday.
We're having a birthday party this Saturday.
So really stoked.
Really excited to be around them.
And then I'm most thankful for ugly Christmas sweaters.
Oh, very nice plug.
He can get in the Barstall store and also help the boys in the back pay for Christmas gifts
because we get a little extra added bonus if, you know, if it goes well.
So Christmas sweaters.
Pick yours up.
What a beautiful.
Yeah.
Just thankful for life to be able to get up every day and breathe and walk.
Nice.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, Jackie, you've shown a lot of growth, not just in the last, how
however long I've known you, but specifically these last six months.
You've been crushing it, the emotions, the consistency of your emotions, I will say,
has been so much better.
Thanks, man.
It has been an awesome thing to see from a, I guess, a maturity standpoint.
You've really, you've grown in a big, big way.
Day by day, because there's slip ups.
Brick by brick.
Just remember that.
Anyone listening, which I'm sure there's six and a half people still listening right now
who haven't just skipped over to go to the day interview.
But day by day, you're going to have good days, you're going to have bad days,
you know, two steps forward, one step back, live by that.
It works.
Yeah.
Christmas sweaters, though.
Buy them.
Buy them.
I love it.
Thankfulness.
First thing I'm thankful for is my family, obviously.
Getting this last year since February when I was essentially cut by the Titans and having
this transition of life, I have seen the growth in the relationships I have with,
Tail and I've always had a phenomenal relationship, but my kids and I, I could tell with football,
there was a piece of our relationship that was lacking.
Not in like a, you know, not being around type of dad, but just not as as present as I should be.
And so for me to be able to like, I guess see them warm up to me in a place where I can feel good about being the present father that I thought I was and really realizing how I am now, even if all the traveling we're doing, it's a, that that's probably what I'm number one most grateful for by far.
those kids are,
dude,
they are the best.
And I'm doing my best
not to get emotional about it
because we do need
to transition to this podcast.
But it is,
there's nothing like being a dad.
There's nothing like,
like I went and dropped my kids off today at school
and we were a little late.
We were a little late today.
Someone forgot to brush their teeth
and not going to say who it was.
And we took an extra five minutes
and we ended up being a couple minutes
late to school.
But as I was leaving,
my youngest daughter,
who was born when I had my first
ACL and kind of took the brunt of, you know, my lack of presence turns around halfway and runs
over to me and hugs me. And to me, I'm like, dude, it's just so great to see the intentional
steps paying off with the relationship because that is the most important thing.
Jordan Peters talks about it all the time. That's the most important relationship you can have
is with your kids. So I'm, I'm super grateful for that. We're going to get you into this podcast real
quick, but quick announcement, bet the bus and slowly.
and picks.
Yes.
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Slips and picks usually comes out on Thursday.
People say, I see the comments all the time.
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We love the show.
It's an amazing show.
Let's get some numbers to reflect that a little bit.
Let's get the numbers to reflect that because it's an overwhelmingly positive comment section.
But we need to get that thing up because the boys are,
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I got to be a meeting at fucking Redmond.
And yeah, speaking of, you guys have been on a terror with the gambling.
He's on a fucking tear
Yeah, one mic, sir
You want to pick it up?
Yeah, absolutely.
We're going to roll.
We're going to go.
Yeah.
He's on a tear.
I don't know, man.
After last night,
that was the biggest comeback
I've seen in gambling history.
That was unbelievable.
You're the sense of blackjack.
You're the sensei.
I've been doing it for a long time,
and I've had many nights like last night,
and even deeper,
I've had some fucking wars, man.
And, yeah, last night was fun.
And thanks for, thanks for riding it out.
with me. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I knew essentially you're like, you're coming just to gamble with me.
And then like eight o'clock hits and you call me, hey, my tooth is broken. I'm thinking, hey, you don't have to come.
It's all good. I'm doing fucking Friday yesterday. And I fucking break my tooth in the back. And I got this great dentist in town here.
Steve Wilson, if you ever need a dentist here in town. Shout to Steve. So I fly to his place. He fucking opens his place for me.
He gets in there and whips my tooth back together. And then I'll come and meet you.
you start going at it.
That was wild.
Do you want to talk about numbers
and what your situation was?
You tell me whatever you want to talk about.
So this is what I saw.
And I know we talked about it a little bit,
but Dana's rule,
and you can correct me at any point is
you play,
you max out the hands,
you win two hands and you get the fuck out of there.
Yep.
No offense or butts about it.
That is the rule.
That's what you do.
100%.
So we come in.
Knowing your number.
No in your number.
No in your number.
No in your number.
You're fighting until you get to that number
and then leaving.
We get my number.
You go quickly.
You get your number.
And then we're sitting there
kind of just chat and hanging out.
I didn't really have a number last night.
So I've been gone.
I went out of town for a little while,
and I haven't played in a minute.
So I was excited to get together with him and play.
We're fucking around.
We get into a battle with his.
He didn't know that I was playing for him when I was playing.
So I'm in this big battle,
280, down 280, come all the way back,
and I win his 30.
And I hand it to him.
He's like, oh, what?
No, I said, no, I was playing for you.
That's you, buddy.
You got it.
So pump.
So I had, I started goof around a little bit.
I win.
I'm up like 80, 90, 100 in that ballpark.
And I said, I'm going in again.
He's like, he looks at me, he goes, you're breaking your rule.
I'm breaking all the rules tonight.
Did it happen fast?
Did it happen fast and you're just kind of like, all right, I need a little bit more action?
Nothing was really fast.
Last night was kind of, it was battle-ish.
I should have read all the fucking signs and said,
the gambling gods are telling you to get the fuck out of here right now.
I didn't listen.
I had my conscience over here on my left side saying,
hey, you're breaking the rules.
Go in and it's just fucking, you know, we would go,
we'd get a little deep and I'd get right there and almost be out.
I mean, at one point we were like one hand away and we were out.
And it was like I couldn't want to double down last night to save my fucking life.
And if I got a 20, it meant I was going to lose.
I lost every fucking 20 I got last night.
Think about that, losing 20.
When you get a 20, you're supposed to be excited.
when I got 20 you got the point out where I said I'm going to lose his hand right and then they'd be showing like a four and then like six cards later 21 the first time doing it around Dana too like watching it happen that was kind of the theme of the night as well he's got oh you're gonna fucking beat me anyway even though I got 19 or 20 that's just how it works watch boys and then he ends up losing he gets all pissed off he's like let's go nuts
because the funny thing is too he's Mr. Positive when he walks in yeah keep the high energy keep good and then get dad a couple hundred that's like this motherfucker right go ahead and flip it over yeah yeah there was one guy the dealer last night Tom
You can literally say exactly what they're going to do.
When the cards turn this way, you know what's going to happen.
Literally everything that I would say would happen.
If I had a 14, I'd get the 10.
If I had an 11, I'd get the 4 for a double down.
You know what to me?
It just clockwork.
It was a wild deal.
To the point, too, we're pushing seven figures at one point.
Down.
Yeah, down.
And a buffet comes in.
Like, they literally like rolled in.
all the little butler's roll in with all the food.
And he takes a nice little, he takes a break,
eats his food.
And he's like, I got to get out of here pretty soon.
I can't do the late night because one reason.
Just a refuel, a refill day.
Because when I was back here in August for Power Slap,
I was on, I mean, I think I won seven, eight times in a row.
And to the point where it's getting numb that I was like,
I don't think if you're with me, I don't think I can lose.
And then there's guys there that night,
different circumstances and I end up losing a whole bunch of money.
And the fact that you've taken it personally,
where you're like, we're sitting there, he's down, you know, we'll say 500.
I have no idea what the number is.
And he looks at me, he goes, how much are you down?
We kind of talk about it a little bit.
And he goes, we're going to make back all that money.
No problem.
Don't you worry.
You're in the middle of a war right now.
You're talking about the next war that we got to go through.
It's wild.
But the way this all started was us meeting at the Super Bowl.
And then you're like, hey, you guys should come out to Power Slap and the explosion
that has happened with Power Slap.
Like, how does, did you expect that to go the way it has?
You knew it was obviously going to be successful.
But it's gone to a crazy degree at this point.
When I looked at it, you know, and I was like, holy fuck, this whole thing doesn't make sense.
How is this pulling these kind of numbers?
And then you start to think, well, what if I did it?
Because I know I'm going to do it better than anybody else can do it.
What would that mean?
And then here we are 10 months later.
And this thing is a fucking monster, man.
It's just an absolute monster.
And we sit here every day and we look at the numbers.
When we do an event, whether it was one, two, three, four,
or five. And the stuff that goes, gets posted socially. It's just we watch it every day. So it was two
days ago, AJ, you know, our little social media queen that runs all the social media for us.
She's hitting me up and she says, yeah, the Sheena posts is at $105 million right now. And this was
how many weeks ago? Huh? Three weeks ago? It's at $105 million in three weeks. The Sheena slap, right?
and we're talking.
She goes, it just went to 106 while we're on the phone.
So then that night we had a Power Slap meeting.
It was at 110 when we had the meeting that night about Power Slap.
So every fucking day, the thing goes up millions, millions of views.
Is that where a lot of the money and stuff is made is through more social?
So what happened?
Then the viewing live on Rumble and stuff like that.
Because I think a lot of people have like a idea that it's like, oh, how can it be successful?
It's like this isn't that great of this and that,
but obviously through social media.
Because you have no idea what you're doing
and you have no idea what you're fucking talking about.
All these, all you people that are fucking talking shit,
and especially the media.
I love the media.
If the media tells you you've got something that's going to fail,
it's definitely going to fucking win.
The media are the dumbest,
no nothing, do nothing,
never fucking built nothing motherfuckers on planet Earth.
So when they say it isn't going to work,
you got a fucking home run, man.
You know what I mean?
It's jump in and grind.
The media, these guys think about who these people are.
When you really think about the media, who are they?
Where did they come from?
Why does their opinion matter?
What have they ever done?
What have they ever created?
What have they ever built?
Who's ever depended on a paycheck from the media?
Nobody.
They are a bunch of fucking zeros that sit around and write stories about people who are
actually doing shit.
It's fucking fascinating.
fucking juicing me up.
I know, right.
Juicing me up right now.
Tell me that's not a fascinating concept.
People who have never done a fucking thing in their life, ever,
sit around and write about people who are.
What got you to that conclusion?
Think about that.
Who gives a flying fuck what any of those zeros have to say about anything?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely.
It's fascinating.
So anyway.
So, no, we make money.
off just like any other sports property.
We make money off our television rights.
We make money off sponsorship.
We make money off video games, licensing, all that stuff.
I am leaving here when we're done, and I'm striving straight for Tita Enterprises,
and we're doing a huge fucking story about Power Slap with SBJ.
It is the biggest, baddest sports fucking story of the year.
That nobody fucking knows.
I know.
That'll be awesome to read about, too.
it's like from the business standpoint,
what's been like,
I guess the most exciting thing
on making that business work with PowerSlape
because UFC and all these other entertainment businesses,
you can kind of just see the success
based on what the public opinion is on it, right?
Like you've got great paper review fights and everything else.
Like what's been challenging
or what's been fun about building the business of PowerSlaf
since you've acquired it?
All the things that I love, the negativity.
Yeah.
You know, when people come out and say
this thing sucks, this can't be done, you can't do it,
that is the shit that gets me out of bed every day.
And I love every fucking minute of it.
And then the end result in shoving it right up everybody's ass.
I fucking love every minute of it, man.
It's the fucking best.
And the only people I'm really talking to about this thing,
there's some guys out there that we consider friendlies and we do whatever,
but the sports business journal.
It's like in the sports world, they are the, you know,
No, it's what everybody in the industry reads.
It's what all the sponsors read and everybody else.
Monster.
The other thing that's incredible about this product is when we, like even the ads,
you know, our sponsors, when we post something that's sponsor-driven,
something, you know, UFC stuff does like 1.7 million views.
Power Slap does 15 or 16 million views.
It's like there.
So right now, this year, year to date on TikTok, we're number one.
one through seven.
Yeah.
One through seven is PowerSlapp.
On Instagram, we're number one.
NBA is two and three.
Power slap is number four, five, and six.
NBA is like seven and eight.
And to put it into perspective, the NBA
is 80 million followers.
NFL is 30 million followers.
We just hit two million.
We just hit two million followers.
So we've done all this under two million followers.
And yeah, I don't think people understand like
how big of a player, just the social
media platforms are.
Right? Because you're talking about all the views and everything else.
And you get, you know, the money that's being paid and the platform that you're given on, like, TikTok and everything else.
It's like, that is where money is, is where everybody's attention is.
And that's where you've done a great job, like, capitalizing with the business.
That's not even getting into the fact that we're doing 450 million views in India, 90 million in Russia.
And the list just goes on and on as I break it into all the different countries.
So it's like when you talk about, you know, people like, well, how do you monetize?
That's what we do.
That's what we do.
That's my specialty.
You know how many times I've been offered?
People will call me up and say,
hey, would you like to invest in this baseball team?
Hey, would you like to invest in, you know,
we were kicking an NBA team one time,
me and the Fratita brothers.
And the answer is no.
I don't want anything to do with that shit.
You know what I like?
I like taking fringe sports that people think can't be built
and monetizing those and build
them up into, you know, the UFC.
It's easy for everybody to look back now and go, oh, the UFC, yeah, fucking, yeah.
If you got into the UFC, when we got into the UFC, it was power slap.
It was looked at like fucking power slap.
It was actually worse because it was actually illegal in some fucking states.
Right.
It was actually illegal to do.
This is how bad it was with the UFC.
At that time, you as a grown adult didn't have the option to buy it on pay-per-view.
porn was on pay-per-view.
The UFC was not allowed on pay-per-view.
That's how fucking bad it was.
So to look at the UFC now and go,
oh, you have, of course, $2 million for the UFC.
Shut the fuck up.
You guys have no idea what you're talking about.
People just hoping, you know, at some point you fail,
and then when they got a little moment to try and grab it
and capitalize on it, write about it and everything else,
it's like that's the shot everybody tries to take.
Well, it gets to a point with me
where it's just like, how many more fucking times are you going to doubt me
and what I'm capable of doing, you know?
We're doing the same thing right now with throw one.
We own throw one, which I told you guys a million times.
We own ridiculousness, nitro circus, SLS Skate League, Travis Pistrano's Nitro Cross.
And we bought that company like a little over a year ago.
And they're based in California.
I'm building offices over here right now.
We're building them out.
These guys will be here in the next couple of months.
And I'll be involved in that.
I'm already involved in the daily, but we'll be really involved in that in the daily when we get it over here.
Get it out of California.
Get it here in Vegas and ours.
literally my office connects to their offices.
So that's going to be a really fun project over the next couple of years.
That's like up your alley.
Yeah, I've shown a bunch of interests.
I grew up on Nitro Circus, Supercross, all that stuff.
That was like the first love of mine before I got into organized sports and all that.
But you talk about the mindset and how your essential hate for mainstream media.
When did you learn about the ins and outs?
because obviously, like, this has been, you've been in the business forever of these,
these fringe sports and making them what they are today.
How did you kind of adapt to the world with Internet and all that?
Like, how did your mindset change as you kept going?
Well, I love the Internet.
I'm all about, I love that we can talk directly to our fans with no middlemen.
Nothing worse than, you know, do what you do and going through a middleman.
And, you know, everything that I really do right now is direct to consumer.
I go directly to our consumers and talk.
to the people that that want to listen.
And realistically, when you look at it right now, the two most hated people on the
planet right now are the media and politicians, right?
Yeah.
Nobody trusts them.
Nobody likes them.
They know that most of them are lying.
And there's never been a better time for social media than now.
And like I said, in every way, shape, and form in every business that we own, I talk directly
to our consumers.
That's it.
When you brought up politicians
and you're on the,
you're on this past weekend recently
with Theo Vaughn.
And he brought up
an RFK interview,
I believe it was.
And then Peloton reached out
and said,
hey, you can't have him on there.
And you essentially went on a rant
like you did with us
about hating the mainstream media,
how you can't tell people
what to do.
100%.
And you were telling me
about that process last night
with the Pelotons
and all these other bike companies
like,
when did you learn that you had the power
to essentially take,
away from people saying what you can and can't do in your business.
COVID.
Yeah.
I mean, I knew it before then, but we're really, you know, never, well, you know, we went
through the whole UFC thing first.
Yeah.
I mean, people, you know, the mainstream media shitting all over the UFC and how it should be banned
and this shouldn't exist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Then here comes COVID.
You got the, you know, fucking goofy New York Times and all these other fucking clowns, you know,
coming out talking shit, blasting me every day.
they don't matter.
They don't matter,
and they don't have the influence
or the power that they think they do, you know?
And you can come out and say
whatever you want about me,
and go do whatever you want about me.
You, you determine your future.
Not people like this.
It's like that whole fucking cancel culture bullshit
and all the stuff that goes on.
You just gotta say fuck you.
Yeah, it seems like you get a thrill out of it, honestly.
Like people trying to come at you
is your feel.
Well, I don't know if I get a thrill out of it,
but it's what, if you want to pick a fight with me,
let's fucking go.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Yeah, taking everything head on seems like
your way about doing everything.
That does seem like...
And these guys that come out and do these things
that do these stories on you, right?
Who are you?
What have you done?
And are you perfect?
You never fucked up, never made any mistakes?
Got any skeletons in your closet?
Yeah.
Of course they do.
You know?
Of course they do.
We're all fucking human.
We've all done my New Year's Eve incident.
Fucking did it.
Happened.
No excuses.
No fucking, you know, I could have tried to make up 10 excuses.
There's no fucking excuse.
I did it.
I admit it.
I accept it.
Now what I got to do is I got to get up every day.
And I got to, at the end of the day, you have to live with you.
Fuck everybody else and what their opinion is of you.
You have to know who you are.
and you have to be able to live with yourself.
I got three fucking kids that I love more than anything.
You know what I mean?
And I embarrassed them last New Year's Eve.
I embarrassed myself.
I embarrassed my kids.
You know what I mean?
So you got to get up and you got to look in the fucking mirror,
say, I fucked up.
And how do I make sure this never happens again, ever?
And that's it.
I mean, you're only fucking, you know,
The only one that you have to answer to is yourself and the people that care about you and love you and your family.
Fuck everybody else.
No, and I think it's cool that you're talking about it because my question is when you are going through that, like, how difficult was that moment?
Because you're somebody, you'll stand up, you'll stand in the batters box, you'll swing with the best of them.
You kind of seem like you can't chip the armor.
But when you're, you have these philosophies you go by, because everybody's, you'll stand up.
human like you said like talk about those times where it is like it is super difficult things that you lean
on maybe it's people maybe it's a you have a mentor maybe it's a circle maybe it's just your family
like talk about no there's nobody but you you find out who's who and what's what when shit hits the fan
i say it all the time you know you'll see the people that will reach out to you see if you're good
and the people who won't it's all good i'm whatever but the only one that you have to fucking worry about
is you you yourself because it's about you you you you you you're you you you're you you you you're
You fucked up.
Are you willing to fucking accept the fact that you messed up and you have to fix this?
You are the one that has to get up every day and look in a mirror and say,
that I do right, did I do wrong?
How do I make myself?
But every day, I have this Bruce Lee quote everywhere in my house and the gym in here and everything
about how, man, every day when you got out, basically what this quote says is,
every day when you get out of bed, your stride and your game plan should be to be better
than you were yesterday, right? And you will hit plateaus, but you must break through them and you must
exceed to the next level. And I fucking love that shit. That is exactly how I live every day of my life,
whether it's my workout, now my health, my business, my relationships, my family. How do you make
sure that you're better than you were yesterday? And when you get into these situations like I was in
on New Year's Eve, it's like, so you can do two things. You can run in five. You can run in five.
can hide, curl up in a ball, and let the world just fucking beat you to death, or you can
dig your fucking heels in, you figure out how to, you know, you have to figure out yourself,
and then you fucking, you dig in and you fight.
I literally, the day we got back from Mexico, I had a quote installed on my wall.
It says, may God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.
So let's fucking go.
Hey, juicy.
It's a gambling creed, too, for bet the bus.
The game of Green Green.
Yeah, may God have mercy on the sports book because I won't.
But you've seen these guys, you know,
who make mistakes and fuck up and do whatever,
and the world comes after them,
and they just disappear.
And they roll over and they bow down to whatever the fucking,
the crowd mentality wants from you.
You know what I mean?
We're at the end of the day.
We all make mistakes.
And we're all human.
But if you know who you really fucking are and you, you know,
you don't have to explain yourself to the rest of the world.
You have to explain yourself and make things right with the people that are in your inner circle and that are your family.
But at the end of the day, you have to fucking stick up for yourself if you believe in, you know what I mean?
I see guys that take just a little bit of heat and the fucking wheels come off the bus and they, you know, they run and hide.
Building the UFC, going through COVID, building slap, I am not the run and hide fucking guy.
That's just not who I am and I will never be.
moving forward, like, it seems like that's all you're focused on is all that.
And you've really taken your health to, like, the next level and you've seen it.
Like, when we first met you at the Super Bowl this past year, you were showing us photos of you.
And sloppy guy just kind of seemed like you're eating whatever, doing whatever.
And you've been singing it, right?
I mean, right?
Those photos?
I mean, he always kind of a built cap, but you, you know, there was some movement.
Just call me sloppy.
Come on.
Yeah, there's some sloppiness going on in those photos.
But you talk about Gary Breck.
I'm never doing this podcast.
You talk about Gary Breckerman and how he's essentially changed your life.
How did you get on board with a guy like that?
How did that whole process happen for you?
There's a girl named Carrie Kasem.
I don't know if you guys are probably too young,
but Casey Kasem used to have a radio show called Casey Kasem's Top 40.
Every week he broke down the top 40 songs in the country.
He was also the voice for Scooby-Doo.
No, Shaggy, Shaggy on Scooby-Doo.
And, you know, his daughter and I have been friends for many years.
And she's, she's hardcore, but she's kind of a hippie.
You know what I mean?
She's into all the holistic shit.
I didn't believe in that stuff two years ago.
I thought it was all a crock of shit.
Now it's all I believe in.
I'm one of these guys.
Show me.
Prove it to me.
You're telling me that it's this way, but you have to prove it to me.
So I finally decide to hook up with this guy because he was doing IVs.
My son, we went down to Miami for his 21st birthday.
So we needed IV people because we're down there doing whatever.
And he comes in with his team and he does my blood work.
When he walked me through my blood work,
a guy had no medical history on me or my family or anything.
He told me everything that was wrong with me.
And he told me what was wrong with my parents.
And he was dead on right.
And it was a really trippy experience.
And he basically said, if you listen to me for the next 12 weeks,
I'll change your whole life.
And I was like, I can do anything for 12 weeks.
So I went in.
It didn't even take 12 weeks and four weeks.
I started to feel different and started to feel better
and some of the things that were wrong when he started to go away
and all this other shit.
And then I'm so in on this right now.
This guy called me right now and said,
fucking squirt hot sauce in your eyes and, you know,
I would fucking do it.
Right.
Yeah, this guy is a genius.
And I've seen him help not just me,
but so many other people, including people that are close to me.
So he is the real fucking deal.
And again, you go out on the internet and you hear other people,
you know, whatever, talking about this guy's a scam artist,
see this camera, okay, then don't do it.
Right.
Nobody's fucking telling you to fucking do this.
Go see your doctor.
See, that fucking works out for you.
Good luck to you.
Yeah, yeah, because you had a video recently too.
Hey, listen, not a doctor.
I'm not telling you guys do this, do that, whatever.
But you did this water fast, and now I'm fascinated from this water fast.
What was it, 86?
86 hours?
I did 86 hours, but it's a 72-hour fast.
And basically it's all water.
So this is actually, this was done by doctors.
They've got studies that are done on this out of Boston where if you water fast for seven days,
it gives you an over 70% chance of not getting cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and many, many other nasty shit.
They've done a study in animals and humans.
So I talked to Gary about it, and Gary is like it's absolutely legit.
But you don't have to do seven days.
You can do 72 hours and you walk me through how to do it.
and what's crazy about is when you do it,
you get absolutely fucking shredded.
You get so ripped.
Oh, I saw the before and after.
But that's not even what it's about.
I'm hitting it right for Thanksgiving.
It's about the inside is what you're doing it for.
So, you know, there's all these philosophies.
And listen, again, I'm no doctor and whatever.
I just regurgitate what I'm told.
And this was from the doctors from Boston.
So it's like coal plunging.
When you go in and you cold plunging,
you put your body through adversity, right?
You're in 50-degree water for three minutes.
your body starts to think it's dying and your body fights back.
So your liver secretes this shock protein that's incredible for your body,
inflammation, anti-age, all kinds of shit, right?
You do that every day.
You become absolutely addicted to it.
So when you do the water fast, basically what happens is when you stop eating,
your body starts trying to defend itself.
Are we starving?
Are we this, are we that?
So it starts shedding all the bad dead cells in your body.
And it starts generating new cells.
and starts to fight, are we going to starve, are we going to this, that,
and that's how it fights cancer and all these other nasty illnesses.
How does that not make sense?
And then when you talk about fasting, you talk about where we come from and how we've evolved, right?
Back in the day, they would go out and hunt and kill something, right?
There was no refrigeration.
There was no freezer.
You went back and you ate the food.
And you didn't eat again until you hunted again.
Yeah.
Right?
So these people would essentially fast.
until they hunt it again and ate.
How does that not make sense either?
And when you're sitting on the couch on a podcast
and you're fucking talking about this,
you're like, Jesus Christ,
I don't know if I could not eat for 72 hours.
I mean, two years, Dana, two years ago,
would have said, that's fucking ridiculous.
Why would I not eat for three fucking days
unless I was on a deserted island or something, you know?
Yeah.
And then once you do it, the level of clarity that you get,
it's fucking and and I hate even saying this
in front of people let alone on a fucking podcast
because I sound like a fucking hippie
but you get into this like Zen state
euphoric like fucking I don't know man
I don't know how to explain it you you have to do it to believe it
but fucking Erica did it too a lot of the people here now at UFC
are doing the are doing the thing like it
yeah no it's totally worth it for
first 24 hours she just got off it too
I mean, yeah.
So I don't want to throw her personal shit out there,
but her weight, her whole life,
she's been at a certain weight.
When she did this thing,
she broke the weight,
the lowest weight she's ever been as a woman.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Broke to the barrier.
How's the first 24 hours?
The first 20, it was good for me
because I do the intermittent fasting anyway.
Yeah.
So I've gone, like I do the whole Gary Breckis system
when I fly now too.
So when you fly, like I went to Australia,
I went to Abu Dhabi, I just did it to New York.
You don't eat.
You fast on the plane.
And there's these hydrogen
bottle water things
that turn your water,
you know, your bottle water into hydrogen water.
And you just drink that the whole way.
And then when you land,
you adjust to the time zone.
It's fucking incredible.
I've done it three times now
on crazy flights.
And it absolutely...
To where you're not getting the jet lag?
Mm-hmm.
So you don't get jet lag.
Yeah.
And it's like a machine that...
I've been doing it.
You put it in there?
I just...
Now I just bought one that's a leader.
These ones were small ones.
Now I got the leader.
Yeah.
This is how fucking crazy
into this shit I am.
Yeah,
it seems like you were telling me
about your routine
that you go through on a daily basis.
You do it like religiously.
Religiously.
Religiously.
And I feel like I'm fucking in my 20s again, man.
Swear to God.
You got the Jew.
You definitely got the energy.
We started this podcast off.
Fun.
With an absolute banger.
And you were with me half the night
last night playing fucking cards.
And I was back in here this morning.
And I'll be back in here tomorrow.
What time did you get up this morning?
Well, I slept in late today.
I got up at 7.30.
So I slept in late today.
He walked out at the Red Rock said at 233 o'clock.
And it's like non-negotiables.
Like what are your non-negotiables in the morning for somebody who's listening
being like, I love the energy, I love where he's at?
Yeah.
What are the little things I can do now just for me to kind of be better?
I have the pad in my bed that alkalines your body.
I come straight here.
I do the coal plunge.
I do the steam.
I do the oxygen therapy.
I do the red light.
And then I do my workout.
And on the days, because I work out,
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then I don't work out again until Saturday.
And then every day is recovery.
So I do recovery every single day.
So on days that I work out and do recovery, it's two hours of my morning.
And then on days that I just recover, it's one hour of my morning.
So when you, if you're somebody listening to this podcast, ball in on a budget,
what's like the number one thing to you?
They're like, if you want to just change one thing and do it consistently, what would that be?
And that is the hard part.
And it's the thing that kills me is because I talk about this so much because I want
to share this with other people.
And I want people that are listening to know
when you're seeing that doctor
and the shit that you're telling them is wrong with you
and they can't fix it and it never gets better
but they just keep adding more and more pills
to your fucking pile that you're taking.
And it makes you feel even shittier.
There is hope.
You don't have to feel this way.
And there's other guys out there like Gary Breka, right?
There's a guy.
Will you go grab that book that's on my counter?
You know the one I'm talking about, right?
the books that I have. Nicole has one. Bring it in here. Because people that can't afford
Gary Breka, I always tell people to watch Gary's podcast. He's at Gary Breka on Instagram. And there's
another guy that Joe's had on that everybody tells me this book is incredible. And I buy this
book and I give it to people. And I do this because I want to share this with people. But like the
pad that I put in my bed, Gary says you take your shoes off and you walk in the grass. And it's
the electricity, exactly, from the earth.
And then if you don't have a cold plunge, jump in your fucking pool when it's cold out
or put some ice in a bucket, you know, in a barrel.
Cold shower.
And cold plunge.
Cold shower.
All these type of things that you can do.
The red light therapy, get out in the sun, even when it's cold out.
Gary always talks about first sun in the morning is the best.
And, you know, so there's alternatives like this.
And then there's this book.
This book is called Outlive.
I'm going to give everybody in here one, too.
I just bought 10 more.
I never met this guy
Don't know this guy
I make no money off this shit
I make no money off any of this shit
In fact I pay Gary Breca
Full boat
Okay
I'm telling you this and I'm saying this to you
Because you can tell that it's super
passionate about it and it's real it works
But this is called Outlive
The Science of Art and the Art of Longevity
Peter Atia
Sorry if I'm butchering your name buddy
Peter Atia
MD
everybody tells me that this book is incredible.
And even Gary, that's the other thing that I love about Gary Breka,
Gary Breka doesn't shit on other people and go, no, no, no, only my stuff will do this.
Gary's like, this guy is brilliant, this guy's good, and this guy knows exactly what he's talking about.
Gary is that type of guy.
So there you go.
Outlive.
If you can't afford to do a lot of this stuff, check out Gary's podcast and his stuff and read Outlive by Peter Attia.
I think this is a lot about Breca the way he doesn't, the way he doesn't,
you say he doesn't talk about other people.
I've worked with some people like doing the blood work and all that,
trying to stay ahead of the chains with football.
And it seemed like most of the people I worked with
if I brought up somebody else,
they're like, no, fuck that guy.
Because everyone at the end of the day is trying to make money as well.
But I hear Breck on, you know, the Rogan podcast,
and you think about the rivalries within the game that people are living.
And he talks about Andrew Heberman.
He's like, guy's awesome.
Guy understands his shit.
Like he knows what he's doing.
So that says that probably says a lot about him.
It's the first thing, honestly,
other than when this guy started walking through the blood work,
First thing I noticed about him, other doctors, and he says, listen, it's not, listen, when doctors go, they don't study human biology the way that they used to and everything else.
He works with doctors who work.
Everybody who has other opinions, he's like, no, that's, he doesn't shit on anybody ever.
Like, no, no, no, not that guy.
My way is, Gary is the exact opposite.
It's one of the things that I extremely respect about the guy.
Yeah.
So he speaks very highly of this guy.
When you talk about Brekka, and he gave you, like, when you're essentially going to die.
He said you had like 10, 11 years to live?
10.4.
What was like your first thought when you heard that?
Was it still in your mind, this is a guy's load of shit?
Like, you have to show me?
Or was that like the wake-up thing?
It wasn't a wake-up because I wasn't a believer yet.
Make me believe.
Then I'll say, oh, shit, I got 10 years left.
So then after I started doing his stuff, you know what I believe?
I believe I didn't have that long.
I think Gary was being nice.
I don't think I had 10.4 years.
I was fucking bad.
And I think that, you know, there might be a lot of people out there listening right now that, you know, when you're a man and you got shit going on with you, you fucking deal with it.
Boo-hoo.
My fucking legs are fucked up by this, that.
Try to talk to a doctor that don't fix you.
It's just like there's two things.
Number one, I'm a man.
I got to do what I got to do.
I got to get up every day and deal with life.
Yeah.
Number one.
And number two, maybe this is how fucking 50 feels.
I'm 50 now.
Is this how 50 feels?
It must be.
You know, that's what you start to think.
It is the furthest thing from the truth.
And now I tell Gary all the time, I'm like, I feel fucking incredible.
I feel 20.
And he's like, no, you don't.
You don't feel incredible.
This is what normal feels like.
This isn't incredible.
This is normal.
This is what you're supposed to feel like.
And it's all fascinating.
He's a fascinating dude.
I hope that this dude lives to be a fucking hundred because a lot of people need him.
Yeah, there's a book called Lifespan where a guy talks about that.
Like, if you can do fasting and do basic things like, and you can start to feel that
normal you're talking about like 100, 110 is like essentially the new 70 and like so on and so
forth. 70 is the new 40 and all that.
Well, if you look at the generation before us, right?
You got Clint Eastwood right now that's fucking 93 years old, still doing it.
He's a mayor of a town.
Still doing, well, he was.
He's not now.
He's not anymore.
Still doing, still making movies, still doing his thing.
You got Gene Hackman still alive.
I don't know the state of Gene Hackman.
I haven't seen him in a while, but he's in his fucking 90s.
He's still alive.
Bob Aram.
I hate this motherfucker.
Bob Aram, right?
Let me tell you about Bob Aram.
You go back and research anything about Bob Aram and me talking about him.
I can't stand them, whatever.
I have to give them the respect.
I'm at the Aces' playoffs.
So the WMBA champions, the Las Vegas Aces, I'm at the playoff game.
It's 8.30 at night.
Now, you've got to pull up to the stadium in the back and you've got to walk quite a ways.
I look over across the thing.
It's 8.30.
Bob fucking Aram is sitting at the fucking.
91, 92 years old at the Aces game.
I'm like, you got to be shitting me, right?
A week later, he's in fucking Saudi Arabia
watching the fucking fights in Saudi Arabia.
He's 90 fucking two years old.
He's ripping. He's moving around.
You got to respect it.
You got to respect it.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm saying these guys from this generation now
are already living into their 90s
and flying to fucking Saudi Arabia to watch fights.
How long are you trying to live?
I don't give a fuck how long I live.
I want a good quality of life.
Yeah.
I want a good quality of.
You know what I don't want to?
Hey, Dana's 86.
He's still alive.
Fucking sitting in a wheelchair, drooling on myself in the fucking living room.
You know what I mean?
86 at the high roller still fucking.
I want to be in the high-limit room,
working on his $8.3 million that we've won over the last fucking 20 years.
Let's fucking go with that.
I can get on board with that.
What's the lowest you've ever been down?
The most?
Yeah.
Hey, that's a quick turn.
Let's stay positive.
You know what's the worst you've ever felt in your life?
It's a good question, though.
Two million.
Two?
Yeah.
Did you bounce back from it, or that's what you walked away?
Maybe you came back from something lower.
Is Hunter here?
Pull him in here if he's in here.
I would love Hunter to be on this podcast, dude.
He's such a legend.
Yeah.
Just stays behind the scenes.
He makes his appearance every now and then.
While Hunter's coming, how much of a factor is Hunter in this business,
the way he operates and everything behind the scenes?
So you want to know something fucking crazy?
He was an intern here.
No shit.
Hunter was an intern?
He was an intern.
In like what department?
Legal and, yeah, legal.
He's a lawyer.
Yeah, so he interned here when he was in college, a young kid,
and then he became a lawyer.
And then he ended up becoming my lawyer.
And then when we sold the company,
I had to bring, you know, I brought him in as a,
is he here?
He's not here?
It's a bad luck.
It's a bad look for Hunter.
Damn, I really wanted him to.
We're talking about sitting midzies.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
We're talking about how, oh, he is here?
He's in two minutes.
Oh, okay.
I was going to say we're talking about how great he is and he's not at work today.
Yeah.
And then he ended up becoming my lawyer.
And when we sold the company, I was sort of rebuilding the executive team in a few spots.
And I brought him in to be my right hand man.
Yeah, and he's fucking awesome.
You know, he's great at what he does, but he's one of my close friends.
now, too, I'm very good friends.
He seems like, he seems like the perfect ying to your yang, because obviously.
It's exactly what I was looking for.
Yeah.
What you can have here is two of me.
You know what I mean?
So Lorenzo for Tita and I balanced each other out.
I need a, I didn't need to that other side of the scale to balance out the way that I am.
Right, because you're a thrill seeker, you're competitive, you're fighting the good fight.
Hunter's a lot that way, too, from what I've seen.
but he has more of,
he seems more cautious in a lot of ways.
And the simplest,
the simplest fact is when we get to the black table,
maybe analytical calculates.
Analytical, because we'll sit there at the table
that, hey, you may, you play?
And I mean, I know he's well off
and he does his thing.
He's like, no.
He's like, I'd rather own a casino
than play the game.
And every time I play, he's like,
you're a fucking idiot.
Like, what are you doing?
And I kind of feel bad about myself
for a little bit.
I'm like, now I'm going to keep playing, though.
We're going to keep this thing rolling.
But he's an awesome cat.
I really enjoy him.
The thing about owning a fucking casino.
is you've got to go through a lot of fucking bullshit
to try to like a casino.
You should, you should.
So if, fuck that shit,
I want nothing to do with that bullshit.
That's like a fucking running for office.
So basically the government can come into your house
at any point in time.
Go through your safe.
Go through your phone.
Go through all your personal fucking records.
You know, all this shit.
The game, what people don't realize
is the gaming industry is incredibly regulated by the government.
You know what I mean?
So when you go in there,
Like some nights when you're in there, you would feel like, I always talk about this.
Back in the Wow, Wow West, you have played enough now to see that sometimes when these fucking cards flip, you're like, how is this even fucking numerically possible?
Right.
That this could fucking happen this way.
So think back in the cowboy days when guys were really fucking stupid and had no education, hot-headed, everybody carried fucking guns.
Imagine being a dealer or a casino owner back in those days and you see these cards flipping the way that,
People had to die back then.
There's no way.
Guys losing with 20.
Pull their fucking six shooters out.
If you were losing the way he was.
And light up a fucking dealer because they thought they were cheating.
It's impossible.
But the reality is when you play these games and the way these cards slip,
it is the most regulated shit in this country.
All these games are square and on the up and up.
And all the cameras and the government is paying attention to everything.
It's very, very regulated.
So to get a license in gaming, you got to go through hell.
is not that's not worth your time yeah it's fuck that you're you're more build brands
sell them move on i'm the guy on the other side of the table i would rather play against you
yeah it's just my thing it's what i love to do and and you know you have people
like hunter and and many other people like why the fuck does this guy you do doesn't need to get
why because i like it that's fucking why no shit's that for a fucking business other than i like
it yeah i enjoy it and i can every night exactly it's what i like to do when's the last time
you didn't bet a max bet in blackjack
it's just it doesn't exist
that's one of his non-negotiables
that's a non-negotiable oh he counts
cards he does this he does that
I bet the same
fucking amount every hand
I bet the max every hand
yeah you don't just bet the max every hand
you're also a psychopath the way I was watching you
because essentially when you get down the way you were last night
you have to rely on the doubles and the splits
to get you back on track
100% and there was a couple times you know
we're looking at a pair of twos versus a cane
you're like fuck it in the classic line let's gamble
and then you're devil and whatever
going after it and it obviously worked in your favor
is it just a feel thing now?
Yeah, it's just you have to mix it up.
You know, when we're in this,
we're in this fucking loop
that we were in last night,
was it true or is it not true
that I would tell you what was going to happen?
That's what we were just talking about.
Before it fucking happened.
I told you what was going to happen.
So, you know, yes,
for the most part, you play by the book,
but overall, you play by your gut.
And there's times when you have to do shit
that doesn't make sense.
because nothing is making sense.
When you have the amount of 20s that we had last night,
and we won none of them,
when you have the amount of double downs that we had,
and we won none of them.
If I had a 14, I was absolutely positively getting the fucking 10.
If I had an 11, we were absolutely getting the 4.
Right.
Right?
I mean, all fucking night.
So when that kind of goofy shit is happening over and over,
at fucking one point, I don't know if you remember this,
but fucking,
what's his name?
Orlando.
Yeah.
Played, right?
John Orlando played.
He got fucking murdered.
Then we started playing.
We got the same fucking hands that Orlando got.
Same cards, same up against the fucking deal.
Everything was exactly the same.
Yeah.
Like we were fucking caught in the Matrix and it was a fucking glitch in the Matrix.
It was fucking crazy.
It was wild.
He started playing and sometimes you play where you just have the cards down.
I don't know if you just enjoy it more of the thrill of everybody else watching
and no one really know what's going on.
and I was sitting right next to him.
So I could see the cards.
And he'd have six, like a two and a four.
And the dealer would be showing a four.
And he would just stay.
No hit, no rhyme or reason.
And then the dealer would bust.
And it was the crazy, the goofy shit you're talking about.
Because you're taking that 10 all of a sudden.
Dead on.
You're fucking absolute.
So when you're in this fucking loop when this shit's going on,
I have the six.
He's got the, he gets the crazy.
He loves the game.
Every fucking time you hit that six, right?
It's a four two, right?
you hit it, it's the fucking tent.
So most of the time when shit's going goofy,
I will stay on the six, I will stay on, you know, hands like that.
And the dealer normally, how many, how many times you see it last night?
I think it was probably exactly five or six,
and I think I lost one.
And the ones you won the on just staying on six,
it was kind of like a look at this fucking move.
And the one he lost, you kind of flip it over.
But even the dealers will flip it over and go, what?
Yeah, yeah.
It was so in the,
moment he's doing his mannerisms at the table too with the card swipe and everything else.
In the fight?
Yeah.
And the thing that here's what blows me away about you is we've had conversations about
people when other situations have happened and ESPNs and these other companies are calling
you saying we want this guy out and you're like, all right, then we're out.
That type of, how did you become an individual or have you always been like this where you're
choosing people over business?
Because you meet people with money and there's a level of, I don't know, not
narcissism or something where they are so solely focused on their success that they don't care about
other people's success.
And it seems like you were the exact opposite.
I've been at the table with you where you've handed me money.
Just last night's a perfect example.
Kyle from the milk boys, he's down 50.
You're fucking around.
You're on a hot streak.
You're like, hey, give me 30.
Bing, bang, boom.
Here's 30.
And you kind of do that.
Like, what does that come from?
Is that always been you?
Or is it because you're the position you're in now and you understand people?
I don't ever choose money over people, ever.
ever
I don't know how to explain it
but I will never choose it's just like
you know this business
the best example I can give you is going through COVID
is no matter what goes on
we're going to go through a lot of hard times
we went through the you know the crash
in 08 and 9
there's been other things that have happened
in our business going up with one year we had
every fucking main event
fallout or co-main event
with injuries and it was a rough
pay-per-view year and you know we
We've had times back in the day when we didn't know if we were going to break covenants and shit like that.
We never laid our people off.
I will fucking, I look at every day when I get up out of bed and I go to work, I'm going to war.
There's people coming to fucking take shots at us and try to take us down, whether it's the fucking media or these people or those people.
And all these people that are in this building strap up and go to battle with me every day.
So the UFC is this fucking battleship, right?
and we're cruising and we're fighting the fight every day.
Some people have been here for 10, 15, 20 years, right?
And COVID was the perfect example because we've never found,
I mean, we've never been through a time that was as scary as COVID.
Are we going to die?
Is the whole world going to collapse?
Is this going to happen?
Is that going to happen?
Now, I'm the leader in this organization, right?
I am the guy who is, my job description is to run the business through the good, the bad, the ugly, all this shit.
But I take care of my people.
My people depend on a paycheck every week for me.
So the way that I am, what most businesses will do, you saw it a lot through COVID.
You see a lot when they're going through hard times.
The way that you make it a lot easier is you start fucking getting rid of people.
So you put bullets on all these people.
And, you know, then your costs go down and you manage the business, you do whatever.
This is a fucking battleship.
And we're either all going down together or we're not going down at all.
That's just the way that I'm fucking wired and the way that I look at it.
And when I look at my employees, I expect a lot from them, right?
This place is a fucking grind house.
It's a hamster wheel.
Every fucking Saturday we're putting on a fight.
as soon as that fight is over, we start promoting the next fight on Monday, right?
So think about this, and this is the way that I look at it.
How many games have they missed that their kids played?
How many performances have they missed that their kids performed in at school?
How many hours did they miss playing with their fucking kids and all this kind of shit?
These are the things that I think about.
And we hit some hard times, we hit a rock and room, and that's it.
You're just a fucking number.
you're a you're a fucking number to the bottom line
because that's basically what these companies do
they go down and they look at the people
and if you make the most money you're probably the
one that's in the most risk right
or there's multiple people that do your job or whatever
and what goes out the window
is all the shit that you've done for the company
right all goes out right out the fucking window
fuck that shit not with me
I don't forget I don't ever forget
I always remember who was here
and who did what, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the people that I don't even know what they did,
I know what they did. You know what I mean? Because I know what we do here. And, and, and I will never
pick money over people, ever. I love that. Let's talk about your, one of your more recent battles, uh,
sponsorship, Bud Light. Obviously, you had to stand in the, in the batters box. I was messaging you
about that on, uh, how you handle yourself when people are coming after you, when you make a decision
like that. Uh, can you talk about, can you talk about, can you talk about that, uh,
and battle with a sponsor with both.
Obviously you talked about on Theo's podcast,
which I thought was awesome.
Thank you.
But yeah, share some light.
I would love to know what goes on,
you know, when you're making that deal,
especially when there's probably other suitors in there.
People call you a sellout and everything else.
Yep.
That's part of the gig, too.
When you make tough decisions and you make decisions
that, you know, people don't know all the...
What you have to understand is,
it's just like when we were talking about New Year's Eve.
If you know who I am and understand
the way that I operate. And especially at this point in my life and my age, nothing is about money
anymore. I've made money. Everybody thought I was going to retire in 2016. I've made money. I'm good.
Like going through COVID. I got a really nice fucking house. Okay. Really nice. I could have
fucking camped out for five or six years, however long COVID. But that wouldn't have done any good
for this fucking company. It wouldn't have done any good for my employees. And it definitely wouldn't have been
good for the fighters. So we didn't. We battled fucking through it. So if I have made the decision
to go with Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light, there's a damn good fucking reason. I know the inner workings
of the beer business better than any of the other fucking these guys out, these fans and all this
shit. And basically, they went after Anheuser-Busch for being woke and doing what they did.
I think that, you know, obviously I've laid out all the reasons on why I'm way more aligned with
Anheiser Bush than any other beer company out there.
And for those of you that haven't heard,
65,000 Americans are employed by Anheuser-Busch.
65,000 Americans, and a lot of them are vets.
That alone should be enough reason for you to not try to put a bullet in Bud Light and
Anheiser-Busch, number one.
Number two, they spend almost a billion dollars a year with U.S. farmers,
okay?
That should be a fucking reason to do it.
All the stuff that they do for first responders,
and vets and $44 million spent over the last however many years for their families.
Every time there's a natural disaster in America,
they shut down the plant and turn it into a bottled water facility.
And they ship out, and they've done something crazy,
like 100 million bottles of bottled water that they've sent out to Americans in need.
Give me a fucking break.
Okay?
I am way more aligned with Anheuser-Busch,
so that's why I did that deal with them.
Now, you're going to have people who come,
And you have these guys that, you know, consider themselves patriots who love this country and everything else.
Let me just tell you this.
If you consider yourself a patriot, you should be drinking fucking barrels of Bud Light.
Believe me when I tell you.
All these other beer companies out there, woke is what you're worried about?
The wokenest of the woke.
You just haven't fucking seen it or heard about it.
So Anheiser Bush is my partner for the next six years,
and I can't fucking wait, and I'm looking forward to it.
Was anybody close to Anheuser-Busch?
Like, you know, obviously when you look at whatever gets reported on their sales,
dropping, everything else, a company like Modelo comes to the top,
like is a beer brand like a Modelo trying to come to the table
and sponsor up with UFC.
Yeah.
Well, people can say that it's, you know, oh, it's about money.
I was going to get money no matter what.
Money was coming.
You know what I mean?
And trust me, Anheuser-Busch,
didn't pay me some fucking crazy number that maybe said, you know what?
I'm going to throw every fucking thing that I'm about, all of the values that I believe in,
right out the window, because I'm going to take this money.
There's stories that I could tell you, but I won't.
There isn't any fucking amount of money that I will take to not.
When you're getting into a sponsorship deal, you're getting into a relationship.
Who wants to be in a bad relationship?
Nobody.
Whether it's with a woman, it's with your family.
family, it's with business partners, or it's a fucking sponsor. You want to be with people
that you are aligned with. The purpose of a sponsorship is you pay me money, and the money
that you pay me, we work together to build both of our businesses and make them bigger and better.
If you are not aligned on most things, you are not going to have that kind of a relationship
and you are not going to have fun
and you're going to be begging
to fucking get out of that relationship.
So you should only do deals
with people that you are aligned with.
What do you say to people that,
like the first, you said last night,
PowerSlapp has more sponsors this year
than UFC did in the first seven years.
Right.
When you're not in the position you are now
and you're fighting a good fight establishing the UFC,
were you, did you still have that same mindset?
Well, that's, that's,
Was there not enough leeway?
Well, no, that's how you learn.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Again, like I was talking about my employees in COVID or whatever.
You don't know who's who or what's what.
You can be in the best relationship ever, right?
I could say, you know, Taylor's my fucking good friend, right?
Then the shit hits the fan, and I really need Taylor.
Is Taylor there for me?
Oh, I'm there, huh?
Oh, I'm there, brother.
Tell me, everybody in this room hasn't been in that position where you found out
who somebody really was.
when you really needed them.
Or when you hit rough times or scary times like COVID and shit like this, you know,
that's when you find out who's who.
And then as you go on, you know, you live and learn, you know.
And we've had some good sponsors and we've had some bad sponsors.
What I don't like is when you have a company or a group of people,
it could be a network, it could be anybody,
that starts coming in and telling you what to do with your fucking business.
You need to do this and you need to do that.
Or we're going to pull our sponsorship.
Well, you can pull your sponsorship.
And you can take every fucking dollar of your money
and roll it up into a little ball
and you can shove it right up your fucking ass.
That's what you can do.
Hey, dog, it's like one big motivational video with this guy.
He's like, we're like locking eyes on.
Hell yes.
Hell yes.
You're like a dog's video right now.
So imagine you're in the podcast business.
right and you have a guest and Peloton calls you and this guy's this guy Robert Kennedy Jr. is a is a
Democrat and you know this is America. Robert Kennedy Jr. has and I've never met Robert
Kennedy Jr. just for the record. I mean it sounds like I'm defending him like I'm talking about
a purse close little friend of mine like Trump that who I've known for fucking many years and he's
one of my very good friends. I don't know Robert Kennedy Jr. I've seen his videos. I've seen his
videos, what about Robert Kennedy Jr.
Would make your pompous, arrogant, fucking ass pick up a phone.
Bike riding, and tell somebody else, you better not.
Like this guy's fucking Hitler or some horrible fucking human being that walks the face
of the earth.
He's a fucking Kennedy.
He's a smart guy.
He has his own beliefs and his values.
His podcast has to come down.
You sell stationary bikes for.
a fucking living.
You are a fucking clown.
There is something
mentally fucking unstable about you
that you have the balls
to pick up the phone and call somebody
and tell them to take another person,
another fucking guy's fucking podcast down.
Really wrap your head around that.
Do you know what a fucking absolute,
pompous, arrogant,
I don't even have the rest of the words for this funny.
Like, let this man cook.
Yeah, he just kind of sitting there like, yeah.
It's fucking mind-boggling to me that you could be that arrogant.
And you've got to love it too, like in this age, like how not power has shifted,
but this power has been like, you know, created like into the people,
into the ones like promoting the product.
Like you hear something like that and you just make a decision,
get him out of the facility.
Theo is able to talk about it because he doesn't feel like he's buttoned in some contract.
I know he went through like a contrasting dispute with a podcast one.
network, I believe. But he's in a spot where he's talking about it and people are getting held
accountable more so publicly because they're trying to do this backdoor, hey, you got to take
this down. You got to take this down. It's like, no, fuck you, dude. Right. And I don't like
cancel culture. And I'm not saying, you know, let's boycott Peloton or whatever. I know there's
plenty of people that like to ride Pelotons or whatever. My thing is this, is that you have to
put it in perspective and think about Robert Kennedy Jr. Theo Vaughn does the podcast. A guy
who sells stationary bikes.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
That you would pick up the phone and fucking call
and tell him to take his fucking podcast down.
It's wild.
It's fucking insane.
But it just shows you the mindset
of what a fucking weirdo this guy actually really is.
I just...
Peloton and UFC are dead.
Well, Peloton and UFC was never a thing anyway,
so it's not like this guy needs to fucking.
There are probably some bikes ripping around.
We only had two and they were in my fucking gym and they're gone.
They're gone.
They whipped them out.
They're going out right after the fucking bike.
So you used to ride Peloton.
Yeah.
So we're doing a deal now with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Too much EMF.
Ella?
Eschalance.
So echelons fucking called me up.
These guys are out of fucking Tennessee.
Shout of Tennessee.
Yep.
And echelons is now going to replace the bikes in there and they're going to do a deal with
Theo Vaughan.
that's fucking awesome
you said you kind of
brokered that deal right
yeah they called me here
I had every fucking bike company
on earth calling me the next day
but these guys are from
these guys are from Chattanooga
Tennessee
guys a fucking solid guy
talked to him on the phone
and yeah
they're gonna do a deal with deal
and he can have fucking
Robert Kenner Jr.
fucking every other Kennedy
and anybody else
in his fucking podcast
that he wants to
because this is America
you can do whatever the fuck you want to do
when you own your own
fucking show on the internet.
Hell yes.
I feel like after this, this like show comes out, there's going to be like so many more
people just didn't listen to the army.
You're making it like, you're bringing patriotism back, brother.
You're like Toby Keith when courtesy of the red, white, and blue came out after 9-11.
That's you right now.
You're killing it.
But am I wrong?
Am I off base of my nuts here?
The proud boy in me is going a little nuts inside right now.
I'm getting fired up.
You got me going a little bit because it's Land of Free, brother.
Like you're able, that's why people come here is to establish their dream and keep it going.
And for somebody, stationary bike guy wants to come and tell you what to do about your own business.
It's a, it's a crazy concept that people have, for whatever reason, have this like arrogance to believe that they can just tell you what to do with whatever you want.
100%.
Hey, because I've given you money for this show.
You're not allowed to have X, Y, and Z on your show.
100%.
You can't have your own fucking opinion, your own beliefs, your own whatever.
So I'm going to take the money away.
So what they try to do is they try to create this, this fear and this image.
Oh my God.
Stationary bike guy fucking pulled his money away.
So the other companies go, should we be scared too?
Should we pull our money away?
Fuck you.
You know what I mean?
It's disgusting.
It's fucking gross.
And it's just, it's so hard for me to wrap my brain around how fucking arrogant one human
being can be and think that he, you know.
Right.
I can make a call like that.
100%.
Like off the whole sponsorship and everything else with Peloton and the Bud Light stuff.
It's like the Peloton thing happens.
You have a decision.
You're like, oh, burn the boats.
Like get Peloton out, yada, yada, yada.
I'm curious, like, what happens in your mind when you're trying to say because you also have to stay fluid in some of these relationships.
Like when something changes and happens, like you weren't with Bud Light for a while.
The stuff goes down with the cans and everything else.
Like kind of keeping that, you know, still kind of.
of being there for if a deal does come back to you. Does that make sense? It's like you don't
bite your tongue on the Peloton stuff. A lot of people would assume that the people who you're aligned
with the way they go after Bud Light when the Dylan can comes out and everything else. I don't know
if you had a statement on it. I have no clue. I'd have to go back and look it up to make this like a
better question. Yeah. No, I had nothing to say about it. Right. But when the Bud Light deal comes back
around, like how important is it to stay fluid thinking like, you know, keeping a relationship open, I guess.
And going into that, I knew exactly what we would have to face doing a deal with Bud Light.
But it's more about, like I told you guys, I look at all the good things they've done.
You know, if you look at them as a whole as a company, Anheuser-Busch is a bad,
they've had some of the greatest ads in the history of the world.
When I grew up, right, I was a big boxing guy.
Every fucking thing I ever remember was Budweiser.
Budweiser, the king of beers.
Every fucking fight had their,
you know, their backing, their logos
were fucking everywhere.
You grew up on Budweiser, the king of beers.
The three frogs.
You know, it's very...
Yeah, the three frogs.
Clyde stales in a foggy morning
going through a meadow.
Yeah.
I wonder, hey, where these horses headed?
And you know exactly where they're headed.
So we as Americans,
it's very nostalgic for us, that brand.
And if you dive deeper into the company
and the heart and soul of the company
and what they are, who they are,
and what they stand for, I am way more aligned with them than I am with any other beer company.
That right now, six years from now, could be a different story.
But for the next six years, I am fucking excited and I cannot wait to be in business with the Anheiser
Bush and Bud Light.
I think it was obviously a great move on their part, because like I've expressed you, it's just impressive to kind of see all the business moves.
Obviously, I followed you closer since we've had you on since the Super Bowl.
and so I'm always fascinated by
I mean I wonder how that's working kind of behind the scenes
because you do such a great job and that's probably why
Bud Light like as they're
getting back into the fold
and trying to align themselves and brand themselves
through people like yourselves
who's staying in the batters box and like yeah I don't
look I'm not a fucking salad I'm pumped for these reasons
core values leaning on all that stuff so obviously a very savvy
move on Bud Light's part but I'm just
super fascinated by how
your brain works especially like you identify
power slap here's how we're going to blow this thing
Now you're looking at entertainment businesses with nitro circus and ridiculousness and all these things that kind of capture that where attention can go or you see the potential in it.
So I'm just always like, I'm always impressed and fascinated by how your brain works because people, now that we have this relationship with you, people are always curious like, yo, what's Dana like, what's this and that?
It's like, yo, he, I mean, literally what you see is him.
And so I'm always curious like what's going on, you know, behind that skull of yours, I guess.
appreciate it. But, you know, I'm going down to Texas for Thanksgiving. And as soon as Thanksgiving's
over, I'm flying up to St. Louis, and I'm going out to Anheuser-Busch, and I'm meeting all the people and
meeting the distributors and all the people that make that machine work. And I'm so, like, into
this whole fucking relationship right now that I'm excited to go, and I can't wait. I can't wait to go
do this and meet all the people that work there.
And I'm really into this, if you can't tell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why wouldn't you want to be part of an ownership group or own a team?
First of all, when you look at a lot of these teams, there's no money in it until they sell.
You know what I mean?
It's more of a lot of these teams are about rich billionaires.
It's more of a status than it is like a fun, profitable business to run.
I like growing shit.
I like taking something from nothing and building it into something.
something. I like the journey. There's not really a, and all these teams are established out there,
whether it's the NBA, the NHL, the NFL, Major League Baseball, it's about winning championships.
You have these multi-billionaires who have these teams, and every year it's about winning championships.
I'm more about building the businesses and building the brands. Like I want to take
thrill one from zero to fucking who knows what's possible.
That's the type of stuff that I love to do.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I just think it'd be awesome.
It's just a different game you don't want to play.
Because I think it'd be awesome if you like, you know, Dana, he owns the Raiders.
Yeah.
You're like trying to go win a championship or something like that.
Dan owns Power Slap.
Half-time show. Power Slap, halftime show.
Exactly.
When you're getting to the status you've gotten to and you're navigating these waters of relationships,
like a relationship that I've seen since I've known you is the Nelke Boys.
You guys seem like you have a great relationship.
You've built something beautiful with Happy Dad and all that.
Like how did your guys' relationships start?
And when did you start to realize like, oh, these are these are dudes I can align with?
We're super tight.
I mean, we're literally like a family.
And basically, I met these guys through COVID.
You know, they wanted to come out to fight Island.
in Abu Dhabi during COVID.
And it was super organic.
Once they got out there, we all just sort of did our thing.
We really connected.
We really liked each other.
And I love how hard these kids work.
These kids work their asses off, man.
And they're good dudes.
And we literally have zero deals in place.
Like there's no contracts.
There's no fucking, oh, you didn't do this.
You didn't do that.
It's a relationship of respect.
friendship and we do fun shit together.
And I love the kids and I'd do anything for them.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
It is interesting to see that because of how they started essentially with like pranks, right?
They were doing like pranks going in.
Professors turning on porn without the microphone on.
It was hilarious shit.
And then they've blown up into their own right.
And it's very unique how just seeing your guys' relationship, how it's all worked.
Well, it's what I'm fascinated right now with by all these influencers.
So you have all these groups of young kids that are creating content in this new world that we live in with social media and the internet and all that stuff, which is really just grown in the last 15, 16 years, right?
And how these kids have figured out how to be such good content creators and how to monetize it all and, you know, basically to become these new age celebrities in the world that we live in.
It's impressive and I'm very fascinated by it because I like, like I was telling you, I don't want to own the Oakland.
A's. I want to own power slap
and I want to own Nitro Circus and the UFC
when we did it, you know, taking
literally nothing and
turning it into something special.
Yeah, it's essentially what they've done.
Because clearly, yeah, the relationship
like how it has blossomed, but it's cool. Again,
like identifying where
attention and everything else is, and then you find a part
you find partnerships and relationships where you feel
like, you know, hey, we can both grow
these different things together.
Yeah, that is
that is cool.
When you are, right, right?
Yeah, we got to wrap up here in a little bit.
I got to go to the thrill one meeting.
That's right.
Before we get you out of here, a couple things.
One, Will Compton has expressed interest in gambling with you.
Oh, yeah?
How do you feel about that?
Yeah, Taylor, like, puts me, he's like, hey, you got to do it, you got to do it.
Just got to do it.
I'm in like the I don't know phase.
Where are you out right now financially?
We're doing all right.
What have you won?
Oh, with you?
We're over $300,000.
Okay, 300,000.
And that's five times.
We played five times because.
five power slaps.
You came for every power slap.
And one of them we lost.
Yeah.
And we're still over 300.
Still over 300.
Earlier on the NELK podcast, I said we were at like 420, so I was wrong.
That number was wrong.
No, no, we were around 455.
And then that night happened.
Got it.
So now we're nickel and domine our way back.
Got it.
Got it.
Okay, that makes more sense.
I don't know why that was in my head, but that's why.
Yeah.
So what's going to be interesting now is we're going to play tonight.
And who knows what else we'll end up doing before?
What your number is at the end of this year?
And that's the way that I look at gambling.
Gambling is a building.
He's building Taylor as a business.
He looks at Taylor later.
I got to build this thing up.
Gambling is a war.
And every night of these little battles in the war.
You literally go, when you say,
we're going to do it again tonight,
which I want,
I want to go back to war again.
I think it's like the most thrilling thing in the world.
But the minute you said that,
cold sweats.
Okay, I know.
It's the thrill.
He is a total sweater when we play.
He paces around the place.
You are not lying.
The anxiety goes through the roof before he plays and he's going crazy.
Because there's always,
there's always like one guy with a suit on that goes,
Dana's on his way.
And the minute I hear it Dana's on his way,
I'm like,
oh, fuck,
dude, what if,
what if?
I was telling you about my wife.
The night I lost,
I had,
the only reason why I left was to go catch my flight.
And I fly back and Taylor my wife is like,
why'd you,
why'd you leave?
Like,
you should have stayed until you want it all back.
What a gangster.
Well, she's a fucking warrior.
What a gangster.
Yeah.
She texted,
she texted me this morning.
She got in here from you.
How did we do?
And I'm like,
did you tell him that night took three months off our life?
dog it was it was nuts thank god for gary brekka all his late nights you've been doing dude
we appreciate you coming on man when is when is mcgregor and chanler we don't have anything
dialed in yet if i if i knew even a little bit i'd say summer if i got to give you an answer i'd
say something would you say that is what yard line are we on are we in the red zone are we close to the
goal line on getting that thing done yeah yeah 100% that's gonna happen we love you appreciate you
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And I'm Nick. And guess what?
We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it.
But, you know, tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smygle and friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your performance.
podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed.
And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its
place. I'm Akela Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things.
As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a
majority black city in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslave
people. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
