Bussin' With The Boys - Dave Portnoy

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

Recorded: May 14, 2021 | Felt like forever, but The Boys have FINALLY graduated into the 100's. Give yourself a hand for being for the boys, and celebrate this occasion with a solid little pod with Mr. Barstool himself, Dave Portnoy! Dave and The Boys open up by discussing Taylor's viral beer chug that sent ripples through all of the sports world this weekend. Then, a hard line is drawn on a topic that splits the bus in two, causing tensions to rise and finger guns to be aimed in all directions. Once cooler heads prevail, Dave talks about creating, building, and running Barstool Sports, why he thinks he (and nobody else) should open a Barstool Miami branch, and whether or not Dana Beers is, in fact, BACK. Moving on, Dave ranks his Top 5 employees at Barstool, makes an EXTREMELY bold claim about the South, shares what surprised him when meeting Deion Sanders, offers a prediction for Logan Paul vs Floyd Mayweather, and throws some major praise at Barstool CEO, Erika Nardini. Finally, The Boys wrap up by asking Dave about his first impressions of BWTB, how he discovered them, and whether or not he is truly faithful to The Boys. We've waited a long time for this one, we're sure you have too. Grab a cold one, press play, and, as always: Big Hugs, Tiny Kisses ----- BUSSIN' MAIL: Send a video to The Boys! bit.ly/BussinMail ----- EARN YOUR WOLF: Want to be featured on our Instagram Story? Screenshot this episode, tag @bussinwtb, and share it to your Story. The Boys will take care of the rest... ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com ----- SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: Chevy Silverado: The Strongest, Most Advanced Silverado Ever. Bear Bottom Clothing: Go to bearbottomclothing.com and use code BUSSIN to get free shipping on your first order (http://barstool.link/BearBottomClothingBUSSIN) Georgia Boots: Head over to Georgiaboot.com and use code BUSSIN for 20% off (http://barstool.link/GeorgiaBootsBUSSIN) Sport Clips: Visit a SportClips near you for a haircut that exceeds the typical experience from start to finish Nuts.com: Text BARSTOOL to 64-000 to get free shipping on your first order from Nuts.com (http://barstool.link/NutsBUSSINBOYS)For more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You think we stole your guys' idea. How about your alumni? Well, how about your alumni? Kind of idiot. That was always like, a standoff. Now this is what we're doing, Will. That would be saying I look old. Are you saying I look like a fucking heat lights in here.

It's a thousand degrees. That's what we do. Here, this is. I know, but you got to stop talking. You have to stop talking. I heard you. You have to stop talking, right? Why do you have UMass's your fucking helmet colors?

Well, I'm glad you asked, Dave. Let's take you that a little journey of science. Maybe you give us more money. Are you faithful to the boys? To you guys? Yeah. Faithful, how? Guy gets on the bus right now.

Puts a gun to Will's head and says, you got to suck. As fast as I've ever seen anyone move, so they can't take more business. They're not even open on the weekends. Probably they kill her. So whatever, I already have this place written down. He texts me, he's like, you're not allowed to go to Jokes. What I mean? I'm not allowed to go to Joe's.

I'm fucking say that. You said that. I said, hey, I'm letting, I'm letting, I'm letting you know that Joey's texted me. Or, uh, DM that says, he does. I just, I said, you like overstead. You do. In what way? What are we talking about?

I recommended Joey's on Instagram. Yeah. They message me, hey, we're so thankful you did this. Oh. We would like to respectfully decline. Yeah. Because we do not want to spotlight. Yeah, but you can't decline to you.

Yeah. I listen. Hey, boy. Hey, guy walking on the street. We declined Dave Cummins. It's like, what do you mean? It's like, it's like a guy walking on the street and you're going, hey, where you going? Oh, I'm just going to go.

I'm just going to go over here. Since I saw it. It's like a movie being like we declined to be reviewed. You don't have that choice. Since I saw the message. That's a good one. I like that. Since I saw the message and they know I saw it, I didn't want to not at least relay the message.

So you said that. And he goes, you don't get to choose. He goes, they don't get to choose. I hearted it and he went to Joey's. But I was going to send in Spider so they didn't recognize me. Who spider? There. I don't know how you guys.

I'm a met Spider. Bylaws. Spider, I went up on you in the bus. He holds our whole office. I don't know how you guys have a met. Well, we do kind of just stay down here, don't we? We've only been up one time. You've been in the office.

You've been a Super Bowl. Things went well. Things went really well. I'm here. Yeah. The biggest favor I've done. I would say you're probably right. No.

I was like, no absolutely zero effort to make sure like, hey, how you getting from like the airport to the boss? That's bullshit. Well, timeout. Let's just touch that. Let's just touch that right there. No, no, no, no. When we met, he goes, he just signed with Penn and he goes,

this is my new favorite game. Lassing of athletes, what they make. And then they asked us what we made and we said, well, we made. And he goes, made more than that. So when you're going to come down to see us. But still that's not.

When you want to come see us. No, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm saying bullshit on that. Because my man wouldn't respond a couple times. I'm like, hey, so what's the deal with Nashville? Right. Are you coming? Right.

Well, then I got to take. Nashville. I, you was a number. And Gazz is really, guys like I'm sitting next to him. Dave knows I've texted him. Sure. And I'm having to fucking text with Gads. Well, you get in Gazz's ear.

It does nothing. He's, he's, he's basically his heir to me. Like, what is. Gas told me you were coming before you did. He's necessary to live. Like, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm saying.

I like that. I like that. So, Gaz, you need guys. Reverse. I've been with him so long. He says something. It doesn't even, it's like, I don't even hear it.

Yeah. Begin to hear it. So he's really employed because he was there from the ground. He's employee one. he does his shit but he's like the janitor that's stayed with apple yeah and gone up the ranks he's definitely does his thing with social media but like i don't if gas comes up with like here's the thing i'm at the point where i don't need to be like dealing with every little thing and he comes up with every little thing it's like i don't fucking care that Nate is fucking barking at this guy like you

figured out paul so i just tune him out that's fair well gas told me that you're you landed 10 leave at five i got a yep yes that's true yeah yep yep he says he said he said He said, yeah. Oh, yupp. He ends up to, yeah, yeah. Yeah, boy, I can't throw a baseball yet. We still on for Nashville, and then he ends up saying, yeah. I'm always, I'm here.

I didn't know if Paul was coming. That's what's my. Paul's like said, Paul said you guys wanted him to come. I would have gone to a hockey game if I knew this. Well, if I knew you were, if I knew. If I knew this a hockey game. Well, you said you're supposed to come for the weekend. You're like, I might go to the weekend.

I'm thinking about it. Yeah, it's all you said. I was thinking about it. I feel like. That's a fact. I was something to cross your mind. Taylor had a houseworm party over the weekend. I did.

You could have came to that. No one told me about that. Well, I did. You tweeted the thing like, oh, thanks for the invite. And I tweeted back at the hockey game having the time of your life. I had a great time. I consumed zero ounces of that beer. Yeah, right.

I tweeted. You actually maybe did. No, I didn't consume any. No, I know. Unless it soaked them to my skin. I know. And it was like, yes. I know.

It was everyone. When are you having a name? What's that? Your daughter next? You definitely consumes some beer. Well, when you, well, I'm glad you asked, Dave. Let's take that a little journey of science. Okay.

an injury causes what's going. That's why you didn't drink it? I didn't drink it for that reason and that reason alone. Smart. But I gave the people what they wanted. And you got to drive home. The tale of two tails, right? Yeah, the side of two men.

We saw, I saw that tweet. Yeah. Duality, I believe it was. Duality of men. Do you run the main Barstle account? No, he didn't do that. Kind of idiot. I'm sorry.

If you wanted to leave right now, I'd have to sell it. I have to do it. I run the main account. Sometimes you need the boy to be on your side. And anytime we get around some status, it's always. It's always the other two-vers to one. Now we're in the office standoff. Now this is what we're doing, Will.

We could have done that. I was ready to. You're like, I was here. And I went over here for a second and you go, of course he doesn't. It's like obviously. Why would he do that? Do you like pay the electricity bill? Oh, if Rabel sits on here, trust me, it's another two on one.

For a damn thing. Look at that body. Outstanding. Did you feel like there was heavy pressure on you because you have the number two like linemen to do the stunt in like 10 minutes? like the Islanders game, the guy with the mullet did. He did the same exact thing like 10 minutes before you did.

Hang on, on, please go back, give him some credit. I'm going to take you. I'll just take you on a little. But you know, you know, the Islanders guy did it right before you did.

No, and that's awesome. You know how he got that idea? You know how all these guys got that idea? You know, how all these guys got that idea? You're going to say you probably. 2018 is when they got that idea. And this was even the first one. The first one was all of us holding catfish

chugging a beer. That was outstanding. It was a beautiful thing. Then David Bakhtiari came out. he was at the Milwaukee game, him and Aaron Rogers at the back and forth. He consumed it though. And then he did consume it.

He did a great job of that. And then what was it? Baker Mayfield did it at a Indians game. Thank you very much. And so it's kind of spiraled from there. But this is, I would say this is the first. I'm the barstool of chugging a beer as a professional athlete at a sporting event. I mean, I'd go as far to say that right now.

Yeah, I mean, chugging beer probably didn't like come to birth in 2018. I didn't invent chugging beer. the location. McAfee was still with us. We had actually a segment where we would, he'd get challenged at the end of every show to chug a beer. Really? Yeah.

At the end of every show. Yeah. Well, it was our call's game day show. Yeah, but it wasn't a sporting event. That's a show. Well,

we were at a football game. Were you in the stadium? No, we were at a tailgate. Well, I think that's kind of just did it, right? We're not in the arena. Correct.

In the stadium. Well, if you're in the parking lot, is that it at the stadium? I feel like if you're bringing energy to the game, like, like Tailgate, that's part of the, like at Foxborough,

that is part of that property, like you're in the stadium. That's true. Yeah. Do they own the houses that are also in that neighborhood? No. I feel like they don't a lot of that. The Patriots own the mall. There's like a mall right there.

Yeah. There's a mall. That's like Wrigley. They own the houses. But you're basically, when you drive through the neighborhood to get to that stadium, it's outrageous.

Yeah, they don't own those. You've played there, haven't you? Where? Patriots? Yeah. I'll tell you what, that was, when Tom Brady, that was the game where Tom points you out and says 51,

and that was like, my first few starts. So we're just, I'm holding shit fucking Tom Brady. The year you guys beat us. You beat us in the playoffs. Is it us still with, like,

no, no, no, this is the real question. He's the Redskins. You don't say that word anymore. So you grew up as a Pats fan. Last 20 years.

Yeah. Tom Brady has been that franchise. Right. You've become good friends of Tom. Tom. Good is strong. Well, until you're at the derby.

Until he's at the derby. Yes. Okay. Until he's at the derby with him. I would say. I've been at derby with him. On his plane and stuff? No, I don't get that.

That would be very good friends. Yeah, I think that would be very good friends. What kind of plane does he have? Goldstream? No, he actually doesn't have his own. He's a wheels up guy. Is he a wheels up guy? Yeah.

I think I did see he's a wheels up. Do you do wheels up? No, they don't, they never have offered me. How'd you get here? Commercial? Fuck, no. I, uh, we, we get our own plane. But it's, we do it like a, like, I'm just,

you're like brokers? Yeah, exactly. Brokers and you have them fight against each other? No, I have one guy. I trust them. because I fly private all that's the only thing literally that I could never go back to I don't get money nothing flying private that's it it's can never go back to commercial as soon as you job I'd rather die than go back to commercial I got to get on a southwest flight with him

on Thursday and I'm dreading every single second hey at least you're a list yeah I guess you I'm 30 thank you I'm true I got the one thing that I couldn't do everything else I could care less but going through security and I'm one of those guys I go through I never had TSA because I get so mad at myself one a minute and then when I'm through it I'm like oh that wasn't that bad but then I get mad like I go to that cycle every time you go into security like I got to do this yeah and then when you're through security I got forget it I won't be flying it's past you yeah so Tom goes to Tampa Bay now has your allegiance spread away from the Patriots at all are you still die hard you're there played the box I want the Patriots to beat him by a hundred

that happening this year right they are at regular season game that game's gonna be tough for the pats it's gonna be a tough one well I mean I think Tampa well yeah but they were the Super Bowl champs well yeah yeah and like 49 is who was an MVP but I'm saying Thomas Tom and you got Antonio Brown. I mean, I want to go to the game. That'll be one of the great like, you know, welcome back. There's no ill will towards them. So I want to be in there to welcome him back.

You don't be any booze? No, he'll be any booze. No, I don't think so. You won't be in there booing. No, no chance. Yeah. Six Super Bowls. I mean.

Tom's outstanding. And I think there is a degree that most people believe if, you know, it's kind of like a power struggle with Belichick and him. And I have no problem. I think that once the grand. Once the Garoppolo thing happened, the way I think, and I have no concrete, but I'm pretty sure. Belichick wanted to trade, I think, Brady, or keep Garoppelow and Kraft stepped in. Yeah, Dromaghan.

Yeah, and we're going to keep, we're going to keep Brady. And they went to the Super Bowl. But that was the rupture. I think from that point on, Brady's like, once I'm done, I'm gone. And I don't blame him. I feel like that happens, too, with all those big dynasties. I mean, like, the Cowboys and the 90s. People, like, figuring out, okay, who's really this, who's really the face of this.

People get pissed off. And quarterbacks, Aikman not being one of them, but Montana played for a different team. Farr played for a different team. Yeah. So, I mean, it happens all the time.

Farve did it the weirdest of everybody, though. Well, he kept retiring from back. He's just jumping in, yeah, jumping in out and then all this stuff. The,

he's really trying to jump in, like, with all of his, his hot takes. Yeah, what's he's doing? He's a podcast now? Mm-hmm.

That's another thing I will thank you for is when we went to the Super Bowl down in Miami, we were on your show. Right. And you said, we're the first, We're the first player-driven podcast, and he said, by the year's end, there'll be at least three more. And I think it was exactly three more.

I'm not sure how many actually have. In the NFL? In the NFL. Patrick Peterson has one. Him and... Patrick Peterson, when did they get one? Before us or after us? Recently, after.

Yeah. We're the first. We're the first in the space, acting without a doubt. And you guys have a dynamic that gives you sort of an advantage? Well, I shouldn't say that. I don't want to skim across as an insult. It depends on what do you mean by sort of an advantage of what kind of dynamic we're about like our chemistry as friends there's a couple things you get going on first you guys you

do that in solidarity or like you have a bad he's looking for he's looking out for me he cares about me solidarity yeah solidarity so the you the dynamic obviously works your player that my concern always a player podcast is you're still in the league you got to sometimes worry what you say because you can find team whatever you're in and out that is where the part where it could be insulting that's not meant to be but you're very focused oh i know i know I love it. You're very focused on the podcast. Very focused.

You need the dynamic and you need somebody who's on the podcast who's very focused on the podcast or has no chance. Yeah. And it's hard because, again, who wouldn't want a player who just slings it in the league, but it doesn't matter to sport. It's hard to do that. If there was two tailors on this podcast, this would be a dud. It wouldn't work because Will, well, yeah,

from day one has been grinding this thing out. Correct. Exactly. He's been crushing it. Right. I agree with that. And it'd be unfair for me to my job that I have to go and only focus on the podcast because then I get fired from my other job and it makes this less important.

Well, yeah, but less positive. You guys have a lot of perfect like which one, you know. It's nice. Yeah, thank you. It's really nice. I appreciate that. Like you even, I like to hold the hand there. Like who's the guy who just went nuts on the NFL, the wide receiver.

He was screaming at somebody the other day. Someone was screaming at wide receiver. No, he was former wide receiver. He was on inside the NFL played for the brand marshal. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I am athlete. Yeah, he did.

He was always outspoken. He's not doing that if he's in like playing the league. I don't think like going crazy like that. He, uh, I don't know what his deal is. I think he came out as bipolar. He,

it's a borderline personality. It's a what? It's borderline personality. What does that mean? Borderline here, borderline there. Yeah, I think he can get,

I'm not exactly sure, but my ignorance is saying that he can get triggered easily, like he can get swayed. He can have ups and downs a lot. So he's like the half of America. I, I mean, I think it's a little farther than that.

Yeah. No, I'm not trying to be. sensitive also that was an insensitive joke but I mean what is it I don't know what that means is like getting triggered too fast I get triggered pretty easily yeah you know know well never know you go away

that's like Adderall yeah true like ADD I know he's a big mental health advocate because he goes to therapy he's big on doing all that stuff the whole office is a bunch of mental health advocates it's great oh yeah you guys got a lot going on especially over the past year too

what's going on I don't know people coming in and out about all the health stuff yeah what like like like like like like Kirk Minahan. I don't know. He's a crazy person. I don't know him at all. I know when he got onboarded. He's a legit insane asylum. He's a walking insane asylum. Like he'll go off the deal. He'll have to check himself into like That's what I'm saying. He'll battle. He was last shot. He pulled the sky up.

Give him credit. Give him credit. You can be like, hey, Kirk, don't kill yourself. And he'll laugh at it. But he may. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if you say that joke because you're like, I am. Everything. Who are these guys? That's got a touchdown around. bang around. Is that part of the show? We're going to handle it. We're going to handle it well right now. But when you leave, we're going to fucking roll on that.

We used to be next to a railroad. That was that a trophy? That was our trophy. We went a lot of awards. I like that. I like that. Adds to like the realness of it. You press a button. Someone just pump into something. We just wait until 12 minutes in this podcast. It's tough. Kirk was like going at it back and forth. I want to say either with you or Eric or something last year.

And then he was also big in the whole cancel culture thing. And the next thing, he's calling out going. He's going after everybody's throat. Sure. The next day I know he's fucking checking. checked in the rehab. Sounds about like Kirk. Super talented.

I love Kirk, by the way. Yeah. Super talented, but he's a looney bin. I'm just saying like, you go that hard at people. Like, what,

you know all of a sudden you can't do it? No, you can go back at him. It really doesn't have anything to do with that. He just goes to a dark place at times that he openly

is like, I can't explain it. I have it. This is even before he's with us. Like, we knew that. We knew that hiring him that he has real mental health issues. How long ago does you?

higher with him two years ago and it's been great like everyone's like he won't be able to like work anywhere long term but well you guys probably know we don't all right kirk you got you got going to you know figure shit out go do it you will be here when you get back you want to rip somebody fine you get ripped but he's a unique guy talented but he's definitely got demons interesting he's an interesting cat super talented and he can take it i got to see this like he doesn't to me how to how can he take it if he's what pushes him into it isn't get going back and forth. That's almost when he likes it. Like he could be in a great, you'd think he's a great space hasn't battled back and forth anybody. I'm having those thoughts. They're not

correlated to you like he likes, he likes going back and forth. That's not what sends him over the edge. Who knows what it is. It's issues I think he was born with. Got you. Gotcha. Now, his issues, I always say, I'm more, I didn't know, this turned into Kirk Minahan hour, but this, his issues are definitely real. And I can't, we just let him do his thing. He comes back. But when he goes back, he's healthy, you can bust his balls about it. I don't want to say anything, Kirk, no want to send you back to that institution. And he'll laugh. He'll laugh about it.

Yeah. Or it'll tell, like, I hope you die. But it's all in good fun. Yeah. Until it's not. Until it's not. Until it's like, it's like ride that wave until it's not. Correct.

Kind of what it is, right? Yeah. I've never worried about saying anything to him. There are some people are our company. I'm like, oh, I just avoid. It's like, I don't know where their line is. Kirk has no line. So I appreciate that.

It seems like you've kind of treated your entire business like that in a way, like where you are, there's no line for you. You kind of just keep going. If I think you have a line, I just stop dealing with you now. That's good. Our company has changed from what it was just me. Paul won, like our original Milton office, which grew from me and Paul to like 15 people. Yeah.

That was probably very equivalent to a like sports team locker. You could say anything. Yeah. You could scream at somebody. Nobody took anything personally. You could fucking, you know, ream somebody out. Nobody's like you're worried about reporting you or it. It was just, you know, anything went.

Different times. Bigger office. I don't know anybody as well as I used to. So if I think you may be like insulted, I just don't deal with you. You're still out. Yeah. Do you think it's because there's so many people now or because of the time we're living in right now? Both.

Yeah. Both. I can understand that for sure. You know, I used to be like I, it's hard to imagine. I don't know what 250 people. I don't know all of our employees. All right. There's the story.

I remember where I was walking out to get a lunch and I walked back. He was walking towards me. I was walking the other way. He was wearing a barstill hat. and I was like thanks for the support. Turns out he worked for us. He was going right back to the office. He's going back to the office.

He told me he was like, Hey, stool. He appreciate the support man. That's pretty much what I did. He's like, bro, I'm in accounting. That's fucking awesome. If you had the growth that you've had with Barstall, if you had to draft five people with Barstool.

Currently who are with us now or like that we don't have. All time. Let's say all time. Yeah. Five people that you're like, I had to restart this whole thing over. Oh, yeah, I like that. I mean, Big Cat clearly would be there.

Kevin's been huge for us. So, you know, I got really lucky because our early guys were phenomenally successful. It's weird, but Alex from Call Her Daddy is a fucking monster. People don't get how big she is. That's been a nice roller coaster ride for you guys. I mean, I mean, she's, people don't get, like, she's as big as Rogan. She really is. Like, everyone knows.

She gets millions like that, like Robo. Millions. Influence, like, Roeastern. Logan, though? She can do a million dollars of merch overnight if she wants to. If she wants to. She does a great job like with her fans too. Like you click through her story and shit like she's

on top of everything. And she does like every job. Colleges like college, every girl in like a sorority or goes to college knows who she is. I mean, it's insane. So she's obviously being good. The chicklets guys. All right. So we got Alex, Kevin,

Dan. Yeah. I mean, Dan, Dan, no doubt. So there's three. And we're just doing content here. Yeah, I don't need an accountant guy to do everything. Just like who you want us, personalities. We'll get all those stuff in the behind.

You know what I'm saying? You know, obviously it's back and forth. McAfee was huge. He's not with us anymore. It would have been good. We could. I don't know that we could have ever kept that together the right way. Why do you think he could get together?

Because McAfee like came to us and learned the ropes. He went to like school, basically. But he had his own huge. the only thing could have done differently with McAfee, which I don't know that you even want to do it this way, has been like, listen, anybody that we hire on your behalf,

they work for us. They don't want for you. So if you split, you can't take them all because he basically, when he left, he had a ready-made business with a lot of guys that he probably weren't in a had if it wasn't for us.

So that made very easy for him, but he didn't need us because he's already like a huge star, you know, and he came to us as a star. And then he learned, learn the ropes and we took them to the next level. But it's really hard when you can do it. Like what do we bring it to the table?

I want to do ESPN. He wants to do the wrestling. It gets hard. What, where do you, how do you make it? So both parties are making money. He was right.

It's kind of like Alex at a certain degree at some point. But it's different when you come to us as a star, which he did. Yeah. Just like the chicklets like Biz came to us as a study. He has a million followers when he came. Where was he at when he came to you guys? He just retired.

He did his comedy tour. He had a comedy tour. he was all pro punter. He could get high. I know he's an all pro punter. I know he did some comedy. An all pro punter doesn't make you a superstar and it's no shot against Brett Kern, our punter, but he's an all pro guy.

Well, no, he's not going to go off and make a show right now. He was super talented, but networks, they've evolved a tiny bit, but they're stupid. Like we,

I said to him right away, it's like, if you're retiring and really want to do it, you have a job here. Like you're, you fit in personality-wise, but he, I'm almost positive.

He applied to all the networks. He got nowhere. They're like, no, fucking, You got no experience. Isn't that just wild? Yeah, they don't see it until. He should be doing,

commentating during NFL easily. They just don't see it. He does these low D1 schools, not to be distraffled to like a Toledo or something like that, but he does like a Toledo. He may slowly move it up. He may slowly, but they never,

they don't think. I mean, that's a lot of our successes due to the fact that networks is so old school, like Bill Simmons, who I've had my differences with. But when I grew up in Boston, that's when he was just locally in Boston. He's the best writer I'd ever seen.

Right. Like he was just, he was so much better than anything else. Couldn't get a job at the local paper because he didn't have the right, like the traditional way to go through it. Goes to ESPN explodes and he's fucking a superstar. But there's this old mentality that you have to come from a network. You have to have this degree, that degree. And we didn't care. It's like, oh, this guy's funny. We don't care what you do.

And we got talent nobody else would get. So that's helped us. So McAfee, I would say, you know, biz and Ryan Whitney is awesome. But he made a lot of money playing hockey. So that's another thing that we run into. If somebody has a ton of money already, dude, is this,

this is a grind. Like to do this. Yeah. It's got to be too. It is. It makes a lot of money. It makes a big difference. It makes a big difference.

Yeah. Because you're grinding to try to, you make, trying to make a life out of it. It is nonstop. Like you have to be doing this nonstop. And that's a lot of people don't realize. I don't know what this is.

Yeah, you guys had a little, yeah. So he, he used to play. He, he, probably 20, 30 million in the NHL.

And he's from my neck of the woods. So he was... What are you doing there? What's that move? They're arguing about a fucking soccer or something. Yeah, he comes... He's never watched a soccer game in his life. He came in suddenly pretend to be the biggest soccer fan.

Yeah. So he was giving a soccer guy for Laceo. It's a huge stick right there. He was giving the soccer guy. So he's been a fan from day one. He used to say he, we could thank him for the NHL support because he got cut every year and kept taking it to different locker rooms.

Yeah. Well, it seems like, like, Barstool is one of the things that have, like, continually evolved. And, like, when COVID hit, everyone goes, oh, fuck. But instead, it seemed like Barstle just kept going. And an outrageous form. And obviously, steamheaded by you, you start doing the unboxing, which is, was ridiculous. It's an hour of, you're like, why would I watch some guy unbox presents? Five hours.

And this shit was hilarious. It was awesome. The pizza reviews, it seemed you're always going. Where do you see these other networks, these traditional networks? because ESPN, a couple years you had to lay off 100 people, they're kind of like, you know, when you and I grew up, or you and I, you're like twice us, but like when you and I grew up,

ESPN was like the biggest thing that you turn it on, you watch the top 10 and all that. I'm 29. How old are you? When you graduated college, I was six. Not twice. I mean, come on, that's 1.5. You're 15 years older than us.

29. That's 30. We're different generations. We're different jennies. 15. Hey, listen, we get to talk. 24. It's not double.

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All right. When you're Dave's age and you hit the kink. Twice. That'll put you bedside for a while. No more pizza reviews for the boys. So it's 58. There's so many things you can do with it. Will, would you like to take us off on what you can do in the Silverado?

Tailgating, hauling, whether you want to haul that new boat, that would be towing, but a whole new big screen TV. Couch to watch the game. Tailgate equipment, whatever you need. The Chevy's got it off-roading, moving day. Maybe you don't want to do moving day. And you want to throw the keys to your mom and dad or your friend that want to go help with moving day. Road trips, all of it. The Chevy Silverado, go to the closest dealership near you.

Let them know that the boys sent you. The boy sent you. Go. experienced the U.S. of A in a Chevrolet. Oh, that's beautiful. Did you make that up or was that on the thing? No, I heard that one today.

You know I'm a terrible reader. I heard that one of my masterclass. Yeah. Have you heard of my masterclass? No, I haven't. You heard of a masterclass? It sounds like a video game thing. Yeah, I was listening to this guy who does like persuasion and sales.

I don't trust anybody who listens to that shit, though. That's all right. Well, looks like you guys. Here we are again. Persuasion and sales. He had this thing. He was talking about all the, like, pitches. And he was talking about rhyming.

Do you believe that, though, like, so on Chevolet. Jingles. Like someone's going to give you a class on how it would be like a sales expert. Like somebody offered me 100 grand to go speak at some like, I don't know what it was. An excellence conference where you go in and you tell everyone how it's like I can't. I like 100 grand, but I can't do that in good conscience. Like what are you talking about? Like, well, I'm going to impart some magic wisdom on somebody.

No, are we at the excellence? Are we at a resort in Mexico? I think excellence in Mastra is that, how is that level? Yeah, that's how I view. Like, I don't trust inspirational speakers. Well, I heard that. Who's the guy with the big hands? Huge hands, big face.

He was in shallow hell. What's his name? Tony Robin. Tony Robbins. I heard that guy's a big pyramid cat. I heard he's a big pyramid guy. And I was in there during the pyramid. I'm in there building the pyramid.

And they picked the good one. Listen, I have no problem. I'm buying the books. Get the bottom of the pyramid. I'm in, I'm all for it. But I don't trust. There's nothing.

I don't know. I don't trust people just, you know, pep talks and that shit. Have you really tried hustle, though, if you haven't failed in network marketing? No, but that's different. That's hustling. That's the pyramid.

Yeah, right, right. That's like their old juice, like the assaye juice or something. Yeah, I know you're talking about. You come home and be, hey, mom, dad, we got to go to the closest hotel. It's on Thursday night. We're about to get fucking rich. Right, yeah. Like, son, take a seat.

Like, let's talk about this. I'm like, listen, if I just get Johnny and Tim and Sean, if they get them on board, we're getting rich. The team should be legal. You should just know you're in them. It's like, then you just roll the dice. Get out. It's no different than gambling. Yeah.

You know you're in it. Get out when you get out. If you get held fucking holding your dick, then you're screwed. I'm not against that at all. So you wouldn't throw on. Legalized pyramid's fees. You order your first. I'm personally with the boys.

What's wrong? You can gamble. I don't know enough about business to even get in this conversation. I know that it goes to the bottom and it goes like this. Have you ever seen the game where you like a old like Price's Right guy? I watched Price's right a little bit. The yodler going up and you just get press it before he stops yodeling or he falls off. That's all it is.

That's the move. What about it's illegal? Because somebody's going to get caught holding the bag at the end. Yeah. There's a product. So if. Because an actual pyramid thing is a little. An actual pyramid scheme is just moving money, mailbox money.

A lot of times there's not a real product. So they'll like, hey, this will make you fucking get younger, but it doesn't, but they need the product. Right. Alex, will you remind us what we were talking about before we had? Tony Robbins. Oh, I don't trust it. I was a big in college, huge. When I was transitioning from the college, the NFL.

Oh, yes. I remember that. I was big. I was big into the, I know. But listen, math, right? I was a general studies major. 5940. Yeah.

59-44 is quite different. You're 44. Yes. You don't look bad for 44. I'll give you that. I can't tell those back. Nope. I'm just saying you can see it a little bit in your skin.

He's just tan. No, I know. I feel like that's what plays a rolling. He's got like a Jimmy Buffett. Like he can't talk of the beach vibe. Yeah. Like, yeah, the guy's been outside a lot in his life. Sorry.

I like to be tan. If you look at. No question. Yeah, I think that's awesome. Tand or tan. Those are the three options you have to look good. What are you saying? I look old.

Are you saying? If you guys let me speak. If you're going to do this, you guys stay in your ground, I'll go with you. I know, but you got to stop talking. You have to stop talking. I'm on your back pocket right now. Yeah, I heard you speak. If you look at my skin, you can see it.

That's no good. Say, how old do you think he is? You're easily saying in your 40s. Okay, yeah, I can say in this 40s. So yeah, that's not no compliment. Easily in my 40s, I guess is what I'm at. Yeah. You're mid-40s.

Let's not change the fact you said 50-life. What? You're on par of what we would think you'd be at. I think most people guess below. 40. No, who? I don't think so. I don't want to fucking walk down the street and ask people, I bet I win. I bet you wouldn't. I bet I would. You bet hey, do I look less than 40? If you just said that

people say, how old is this guy? Guess my age. Well, younger people are going to be nice because they're going to see, well, this old man's looking for a compliment. No, no, no, no, young people you put on the spot. Nobody's nice. Younger people you put on the spot right now. What are you going to say? How are you going to say? How old do I look? I probably have fucking heat lights in here. It's a thousand degrees. That's what we do. This is how we fucking ride.

Why do you have UMass's your fucking helmet colors? What do you mean? This is the original design. Looks like UMass. And listen, and the excellence class and the master's class, you can learn her to deflect just like that. So the thing we were talking to deflect is a bit of a deflect. It was a bit of a deflect. Yeah.

Math guy. Wait, hang on, hang on. He said you looked 59. No, no, no. He said I'm twice as age. He's really doubling down on you twice our age. When I'm not going to sit there when I'm trying to be in the middle of a conversation and go, he's 1.35 our age.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to say that. I'm older. Nothing better. So you're nothing better than being around a couple guys who love to argue. Well, I'm just saying where you were to ticketacky money details. Hey, listen, you're a handsome guy. There's no question about it.

Tiki tacky is not when someone says you're twice their age, which would be 60. I'm not close to 60. 58. That's tiki tacky. Yeah, that's tiki tacky. You were tiki tacking me taking on bridge with you saying twice your age, not tiki tacky. Yeah, but it's more of like a phrase than it is actually. Yeah, but it's just wildly inaccurate.

So anyway, Dave's 60. and I'm wondering in your old age how you feel about these networks how ESPN had to drop off like 100 people at a time and Barcelona's been able to do this I'm in school 2013 I can't get into one of your guys's parties in Ann Arbor words right and now fast forward 12 years

and you guys are still dominating at a high level why do you think that is with the evolving how have you been able to stay ahead of the curb do you think I think it's probably if I had to say the thing I'm most proud of is that we've been kind of cool and edgy now for almost two decades which is really hard to do, especially in the media. But we hire younger people who keep us like relevant and on top of things.

And again, we don't have these preconceived notions. Like I readily admit I don't know a lot of what, you know, younger people are into, but we'll adapt and we'll find people who do know. And we let people try anything. Like you guys probably say, we're just hands off. Try things twice. We will let people do whatever they want to do. So that's probably it.

If you have people saying, no, you can't do this, can't try that, can't do that. You may miss on a lot of things that you should be doing. So we just pivot quickly. We'll see what works. And if it works, we'll go to it. Yeah, I think everybody, even bars, I'm sure everyone, everyone felt the struggle from the pandemic. So you guys were very much like big cat with the college football. I mean, that's insane.

You doing all the shit like those, take it to frozen pizzas. Like learning how to adapt and have those pivots obviously doesn't come easy. It takes like fucking people who understand that and grinders. But like you guys grinded when that shit happened. Yeah. And, you know, none of it was planned. Like everything that for like what I did during. The unboxing, totally unplanned.

It's just, all right, whatever, for whatever reason, I saw that. It was working. We did it. The caller daddy, like, split. That was huge. That was obviously unplanned. We didn't want that to happen. You know, Trump interview was huge.

The finance, never planned on doing finance, but sports went away and we started gambling. The Trump interview, they called me like the day before. I didn't ask for that. That wasn't planned. That became. They reached out to you? Yeah, they reached out to me. And then.

Because you didn't tell Big Cat. Well, I know that that whole thing. That's that actually want to like let's put something in that. I want to talk about that. Okay. And the Trump interview, comedy and politics are really tough to mix. Unless it's comedy making fun of politics. Barstall is absolutely a comedy built on comedy.

What did you, did you think? What did you think at the time when they reached out to you? What was that thought process like for you? Because it's obviously going to get clicks, right? Donald Trump is, was, could still be if he wasn't banned or whatever, the hottest talking piece and all of social media. Yeah. Is that where your head kind of went with it? is just clicks here?

A lot of it's clicks. A lot of it, it's like people for me have already made up their mind what they think about me. And a lot of respects on what they think about Barstool. It doesn't matter. It's like a quote someone said to me the other day. The people who don't like me,

like if I walked across water, they'd be like, that's just because you can't swim. Like they just don't like me. It doesn't matter what it is. So it's like, you know what? When I thought about the Trump thing, it's like, I'm not going to win back.

The people don't like me don't like me. This is going to be one of the biggest things we've ever done. I've ever done it. And again, not to keep doing quotes, but I really look at Barstool as like Michael Jordan, like Blue States, Red States, buy sneakers.

Like, I don't fucking care. Everyone like Barstool as much as we can, you know, get the brand out there and fucking, whether to sell T-shirts, do whatever, it's good. Yeah. And the amount of people who would listen and maybe like, ooh, we kind of like this guy. Far outweighed for me any blowback on people who,

politics truly, Trump specifically, like broke so many people's minds. Like, it didn't matter with what they thought or if you met them. It's like if you, if you didn't say you hate them, they couldn't get over it. They thought you like the devil. So, you know, in the end, I thought about the brand.

My dad despises Trump. Yeah. Fucking hates him. Do you touch about that? What I did? I had my dad. I actually, FaceTime them, right?

FaceTime them. I told Trump, like, oh, my dad fucking hate. I didn't say, fuck. And I said, my dad hates you. He doesn't know him here. I'm going to face time and put him on. What do he said to do it? Trump said, do it.

My dad, my dad coward. My dad panicked. No, he did it. My dad has been. My dad has forever been like, if I ever talked to him, I'm going to say this, this, this. He was nice and cordial.

So you had those things in your mind when you called? Yeah. Well, I was like, I knew I wanted to catch him off guard. But before we excited, I called my dad, I'm like, what do you think? He's like, you have to do it. It's the president of the United States. And when I say my dad hates him more than any, it's like, so I would do anything. If the president of the United States, I don't care who it is, as you do an interview, you go.

That was my mind thought. It's like if you win a national championship or a- I would go for that, yep. Yeah, depending on whether you're blue or red. Yeah, I would go no matter what. But I would never be like, hey, you should also go. If someone doesn't want to go, that's your choice. I would go.

So, yeah, it was something I felt like I had to do. And, you know, it did cause some controversy at Barstool. And I get Dan's point on it. Dan was primarily like, you should told me before. And I wish we did. I wish we did. Now, what would have happened if he forbid me? Then it would have like.

Well, then you would have gone for sure. And but then what? Then it would have been a much probably bigger, problem because this way he in a weird way he didn't know so after the fact he he he didn't know but i get what he's saying too because he doesn't like him and obviously he's gone now but barstle does get painted unfairly because no other network really does this i don't know if you guys run into it like if you work at espn or the new york times if the times say something or somebody at espan they they don't generally equate it to every person at the network a lot of times with us they do it's

like, well, Dave did this. So now everybody at Barstall's like that. The truth of the matter is we're probably like more liberal than anything at Barstool. We have people who believe anything and we let them say what it is from every walk of life too. Because people were, people were getting mad at us because it's like, oh, you're affiliated with Barstool. Like, you know, we love you guys, but we're not going to listen to shit. And it's just like, I mean, I don't know what the fucking thing. Right. What do you tell us? It has almost become a joke within Barstool because we've heard it. Well, I like Bustin with Boys, but I don't like Barstool. I like the chicklets guys, but they don't stand for Barzell. I like Alex Cooper, but they don't stand for

Barstle. I like PMT, but they don't stay. It's like, you just named everybody at the company. Yeah. So it's like, what are you going to do? That's the beauty of it. There's, there's something for everybody and we don't tell people what to think. And there's never like, we never cross the line to like hate. It's always to make people laugh. And if you don't like somebody, fine, but there's something for everybody. So, you know, I've just come to it is what it is. You can't change some people's minds. We had Josh Wolf on the podcast and he like a Jewish comedian and he was making Hitler jokes and

walked in here and thought a bunch of Germans were to come and get him type of type of comedy. And we're like, you know, we got jobs. We're like, yeah, that's fucking Jewish people, right? You know, like, it's one of those things where like the beautiful thing about comedy is it's one thing that for whatever reason is it's on limits for everything. You can kind of go dive and everything.

Obviously there's a line everywhere. But that is one of those things. I think that you can kind of sneak by and especially with stand-up comedians. I've always said, whatever they want. When the people really don't like us, I equate, they go to a comedy show

to see a comedian, they didn't buy a ticket, they don't know what the comedian is, they walk into the show, they hear a joke they don't like, they walk out of the street and be like, you'll never believe what this guy's saying, and they don't give any context. Right.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The Big Cat thing, that's a good point you brought up, because you kind of feel like you should always tell who the top five guys were. Yeah, and if Dan, And if like Pat leaving, it was one thing, but Pat came and went. I don't know how long he was with. He was there.

Dan's a staple. Yeah, he's a foundation piece in Barstool. And it's always better to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission. And it wasn't even consciously, like, thought that way. It happened like instantly. Like you, like I found out, I was in Nantucket, I think on a Wednesday, I found out Wednesday night, we're interviewing him Thursday. Like, it was that fast. You flew in that day.

Yeah, flew in the morning and did it. So it wasn't some long, hey, we got to keep it on the loop. It was really very fast. And he found out, I think originally I was trying not to let my dad know because I wanted to surprise him. And it leaked. And I hadn't told anybody because I didn't want my dad to spoil the joke. How did it leaks? Because you didn't tell anybody.

So obviously his camp did. No. No, there was Trista, but I don't know how she knew. Trista. Trista Kirk. Trista works for us. Yeah, we know Trista. She's written for us a few times. So do you get mad at something like that? If Trista's something like that works for you, you were pissed at her?

Yeah, I was. She didn't know I was trying to hide it. Like, no one knew I was going to do it. Yeah. But so I just was keeping, like, reporter. Yeah, I just dead. And she was on the radio with my dad. And she's like, I think your dad's like in Washington. And he's like, what are you talking about?

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Let's get that thing back up there Um, NFT is crypto, Safe Moon. Let's talk about it. Taylor and I've talked about it. We always get extreme FOMO. Obviously,

you see everybody out there with their shit coins, the Bitcoins, the Doge, all that stuff. What is the deal with Safe Moon? And what is your stance on like, you were talking about, I'm buying,

I'm holding this. Why did you go to Safe Moon? Let's start there. What of all these other coins? What was the reason for Safe Moon? I just get hammered with, with inbound. And I was getting Safe Moon all the time.

So I researched it. And, I thought it was a decent. I like the fact that they kind of penalize if you sell. But as I said in the video, you can flip a coin. It's a shit coin. So, I mean, it had already kind of exploded a little bit. I was looking for one rightly or wrongly that was hard to buy.

In my head, I'm like, ooh, if it's hard to buy, that means I'm in early. Like, I don't want it when it's on Coinbase or, you know, block folio when anybody can get it because then you're late. You've missed the rush. I want one that's going to, I need like a tutor on how to buy it. Safe Moon you did. I still couldn't buy enough of it. So that's why I chose Safe Moon.

Yeah. And same, FOMO, you see those ones doge and all this shit. So it's like, I'm gonna just pick one shit coin, whatever it is. I was curious,

can I move it? Well, like me saying I'm involved, do I have enough influence to make it go up? Why not briefly, but it's got crashed with everything else.

So that's why I pick Safe Moon. Yeah, everybody's out there like, everybody talking about all the, all the bitcoins. The crypto world seems like the whole Reddit

with the whole AMC. It's crazy. And it's like everyone's pissed off about the elite being able to influence the market up and down and shit. But then when the Reddit stuff happens in this crypto world, it almost seems like we're creating a new elite, which is more so with the people.

But like the whole deal behind the shit coins. You're talking about GameStop on the Reddit? Yeah. Like Reddit like basically one in all those things, right? Basically one on the AMC. That's another thing we're talking about evolving though, right? Like the ESPNs, the NFL networks are falling behind because they're doing things like this and you go to go to Reddit. You got people in for us talking about it.

The finance shit's interesting. I don't know what will shake out on that. I mean, obviously it's supposed to. take the money out of government's hands and everyone says a transfer of wealth. I personally don't think the wealthy will let that happen that easy. You even hear China is now like not going to let mining go and it's just shady.

I, listen, I thought Bitcoin speaking of Ponzi schemes was a Ponzi scheme. I firmly believe that. I don't know what it is now. Oh, you still think it is a policy scheme. No, no. I think it started that but I now think it's been so widely accepted that it's real and it's not going anywhere. I feel players getting paid in it. So, right. So I would buy into Bitcoin. As far as the

other ones, who knows? And like, There's certain ones, if I put so much money in and they're tiny and there's a bunch of them, a yummy coin, a milk coin, a melf coin, an ass coin. There's millions. If I buy a lot, I don't think there's liquidity for me to get out. Like, I may, it's no different than a small, small stock. Like I can, if I buy it, if I want to buy a lot, the price is going to go up and up on up as I'm buying it. And if I want to sell it, no, I'm not going to sell it at that price because there's not enough liquidity.

So, you know, if you're doing small amounts, maybe. But who fucking knows? It's crazy. Yeah. I have what you guys, FOMO. You hear these people, it's like this fucking jerk

just made $100 million in like two days doing nothing. Did he make $100 million or is it $100 million? Can he take out $100 million? I don't know. When he said that, I was like, I didn't even know that that was possible. That were you can't sell it.

Oh, yeah. So when Elon sold Bitcoin the first time, he sold like 10 or 15% off. They bought it for Tesla's spreadsheet to cover their losses, basically. And his reason on why they sold so much. watch of it was to prove that Bitcoin had liquidity for that amount. Now, Bitcoin's gigantic. Do you buy,

that's the reason why? Because it seems that you guys have had to back and forth. No, no, I don't. Well, here's my thing with Elon. Elon is a puppet master. He's the most powerful guy there is. No, there's not even clay. That's out now. Well, no, he's just so much above everybody else. But he just flip-flops. Like,

one second, Bitcoin's great. The next second it's bad. Then it's great again. And he's fluctuating the market. And he's buying and selling. So that's the part. I guess it's not regulated. This is a part of me that thinks he just fucking hates the SEC because the SEC used to investigate him. He's like, fuck you, you can't do anything with what I'm doing here.

But, you know, I'd be pissed if I had a lot of Bitcoin and suddenly he turned around says it's bad for the environment. You didn't know that a month ago when you were buying it? You're the smartest guy in the world. You just figured this out. So, I mean, at one point, Elon tweeted in this before he was so

heavily involved in crypto, that Tesla's stock price was too much. I mean, it dipped like 15% in five minutes. He said it's too high. Yeah. He tweeted Tesla's stock is too high. Like, to me, even if I believe that about Penn, which I don't, I would never publicly say that ever in a million years. I wouldn't be like, yeah,

it's going to hire. If someone asks me, no, it's good, it's good. Like, I would never, ever tank my own stock? Like, people are buying it. Why would I want to, like, hurt people who are investing basically in me? And the reason why he's taking that stock is so when it drops 15%, he can go buy more? There's a who knows. That would be an idea.

Obviously, it's we're not enough of Elon here to defend himself. Yeah, right. For a Bitcoin, you could certainly think that and then he switches to Doge he owns a ton of Doge. So really in the span of 24 hours at one point he said he thought Bitcoin is bad for the environment so Tesla is no longer accepting it and by the way he's working with Doge to make it environment friendly.

So Bitcoin went like this and Doge went like this and he's like yeah I own Doge it's like a little fucked up. I don't expect you to know the answer to this. By the way if I could do what he did I could do it in two seconds. Yeah of course it's a game like it's just a game right it's all a simulation we're all just figuring out but like I would I wish I could do that. Yeah, 100%. The guy is an absolute news.

Do you know him? Like, do you guys like... No, he don't in a million bucks of the barstool fund. Yeah, I knew that you guys had the whole must. Yeah, he told me to run for prep. But I don't know that he actually knows who I am. He knows who you are.

Would I what? Run for president. No, fuck. No. I like my life. Yeah, president's a tough deal. Maybe in like eight years or something like down the road a decade from now. I don't think you'd win.

I don't think you'd that'd be a winning move. Dave? Yes, I don't think so. I don't know, man. Two, it's maybe before Trump, but because you're so much stuff. But I'm a way smarter version of that. I'm not smarter, but like, well, people may not think that. Like, I think I'm less alienate.

Like, I'm not alienate. People think I am, but you really, if you boil down to things I say, I don't, I don't go as far as he does. And what in what ways? Like, if he's. Because if Trump got in a large number for the things he was saying about the government, what they're going to do. If he's built the wall, law and order, like not things that I disagree or agree with. I'm not getting into that.

But I'm saying. name calling but you like people could go and dig up your early years of barstole like they try to do in 2020 totally yeah yeah and then fucking do the same thing they did you and make it seem like it was yesterday yeah i i felt like sometimes he plays to a crowd more than i would knowing where he is if he's like you know if he's at a crazy person rally in the deep south he may go right to the line of things like to kind of get them on their side which are going to be divisive um you know i when i did the i forget the question i asked But when I did the interview with him, I mean, it was in the heat of Black Lives Matter.

Yeah. It was that was when that like people were probably still rioting. And I think I asked him something to affect like if you're a black person, like what would you say, you know, to get them to vote or like you have their back? And I don't, but let me say, I've never thought he's like racist. I've followed him like before he's president. I've never got that vibe from him. When I met him, I didn't. But he plays to his constituency more than I think, you know, he, if he.

just toned it in both sides really if he toned it down a little i think he probably would have won and to be honest if the left wasn't so hell bent on like fucking hating his ass they probably could have gotten some of the people like they're these both extremes equally suck in my mind yeah i agree with that and like 90% of the country i really believe are kind of normal live in the middle who like want to get along with each other and it was like there's no good candidate for that yeah minority in the blue and the red usually are the loudest. Yes. Those people come out.

Silent majority. Yes. Absolutely. So you think you would handle those situations different. You would never run for president, but if you did run for president. I just think. That's a classic. I'm going to run for president eight years comment, by the way.

Well, it's like, you know what it is? It's like, you know what it is. It's like, you got to rule of Rome. He's like, I don't want it. It was like, that's the exact reason you have to. Yeah. But I never would. Well, not after that fucking comment, dude.

No, no, no. That's the reason why you have to. Honestly. who would want to do that? I don't care about helping people. It seems like Duane the Rock Johnson is making a push. Do you think you well? Who?

He'd win. He would win. He would win. He would win. I do. But I think that's because there was a thing that came out that said 46% of the country would vote for him. They said I'd vote for Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

And my first thought was then 46 is stupid because you have no idea what he's standing on. Like what he believes in, what he's trying to push. You know, it's crazy. And I'm sure that I'm sure Dwayne's a good guy. I have to put it. insurance policy here. I didn't mean to cut you off. But like, I'm sure he's a great dude. I'm sure he handles himself.

Well, I'm sure he would. I can't imagine Kim Jong-un going into a meeting and the rock being like, hey, good to meet you. Holy shit. Talk about intimidation. But you don't, like, has he said what his political campaign would be? What do you run independent? You know? I think a lot of it at this point is people vote for somebody that actually thinks like a genuine good person. You think so? And like, I don't know what their politics are,

but it's like somebody that you see. and you think thinks normally it isn't going to judge somebody on anything whether it be like race skin and like that's better in a lot of respects than like what we have now or maybe have had not that i think that it's just you know we just don't like somebody you can sit down and you think you can have a normal conversation with and get along with that that almost trumps at this point i don't know i think he would win it's a while i think he would win too but it just depends what he'd come out with you can't just say you're going to vote for somebody if no idea what they're standing for it kind of dismantles what the country's i think i think you would win it's a while i think he would win too but i think he'll people feel like they follow him all these years like obviously I know he's outstanding I don't follow a lot of people just to follow them right he's one of those guys I follow it tells him like this dude anytime he has a video and he's talking like everyone seems to listen yeah yeah I mean

you'll sit there and listen to you'll watch like I've never heard anybody be like I can't believe the rock said that like right you know he just never seems like somebody who I don't think I've ever heard anybody be like a fucking rock right yeah I don't think I have either I've only person I heard him talk shit about himself as him yeah like

I've never heard anybody say anything bad about Yeah, this is like Kevin Harder doing both sides. If you're in wrestling, he's like a funny guy, clearly. I trust people's sense of humors. Yeah. And there are no like, believe, that's why I kind of like Trump thing.

I thought he's like super funny. Like I loved how he did debates and just like make up names and shit. Like I found that funny. He just yell at people. He would just yell over anybody talking. Dude, straight comedy. I was like,

look at these guys, dude. These children, elementary kids. It really was. I'm waiting for a teacher to come out and tell me to play nice for a second. Then go back. No. No.

No. You said that. lie if the rock came to you and was like i want you to run vice president no i don't want it people fucking already don't like me enough i don't need it that's not a bad deal i am leaking right now i know it's officially turned the jets on i had well it's 90 out too yeah we used to be out in the gravel and have to just put tarps over it yeah it's a bad deal so we've loved does everyone say yes or you asked to come on this no who's who's we shut down who's mackaff is the first one that comes to mind dk shut us down which was out absurd to me

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So Indiana is launching this week, actually. I'm going to Indy 500. I've never been. I've been a ton of NASCAR, but never Indy. So doing that. I'm excited for that. And then we should have by football season about eight more states, I think, or eight total. Yeah, it's important.

Do you guys know which eight states? You probably do know what eight states. Can you see? Tennessee? Yeah, I think Colorado. Let's fucking go. New Jersey. And I, Colorado.

And maybe Virginia. it comes from Penn they basically tell us but those are states I know illegal yeah with uh when it comes to you guys as demographic obviously guys are huge in the northeast is where you guys started and stuff like that um in the west baytime also actually Arizona is a huge parcel state I don't know if you know that well but I didn't in the south though it seems like there's a little bit of a drop off why do you think different areas are for or against see I disagree with that I that assessment I think just just with whatever you want you know I because you're my boss inaccurate yeah I think we're huge in the South now. I'm kind of like. But there's no, there's no bar school in Nashville. Well,

that's tough to, that's tough to know. I mean, Miami. How are you king of the south? And then don't say Florida, because Florida and Louisiana, its own entity.

What? Florida and Louisiana is the south? No, I think Louisiana's a totally different deal. I think there's a couple of things between them. Yeah, but I'm not talking about geographically. Obviously, it's the south.

I'm talking about like Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Missouri. Okay. Outstanding. She probably went for president then. Well, I don't want to run, but like New Orleans, Louisiana area, it's supercation.

I'm more talking about how different the state is compared to all the other states in the south, including Florida. Florida is its own deal, Louisiana's its own deal. But why, okay, you're the king of the south. Why is this? Well, a couple different factors. I got really involved with NASCAR. So I was going to those events a lot. That's a big southern thing, isn't it?

Yep. I'm viewed as a conservative. So Fox News and doing it. all that. Like I'll go in the South, everyone knows it. I saw you on Fox News and everyone likes pizza. So, um, those three things. Those are the three staples you're standing by right there. If I am the South, I get recognized almost as much in the North. Really? Yeah. I'm the king of the South. Well, are you opening, um, like an HQ up down in Florida? Have you thought about putting a putting a flag down in the South? Well, yeah, I bought a house there. So I'm going to be there six months

a year. Okay. Probably the, probably the colder ones. If I had to guess. What are you going to bring people from from the, from HQ down south? Yeah, if I have to do stuff. Like, I got a nice spot, so I'll probably build something where I am. I would think that a lot of people from New York would be like, let's go to Florida. I don't want them there. Oh, okay. New friends.

Well, no, it's like, honestly, I don't, we're a young company. Like, these bozos run around South Beach. Yeah. That's the end of us. Like, New York in the winter, it's like, you know, it's fucking. They're dormant. Two degrees. No, you don't want to be outside.

It's freezing. Miami is 24-7. You imagine Danubears. Beautiful. We have, I've actually become, I'd say like from a nightlife's perspective, my most connected city because I'm there so much. I know everybody. So, you know, I'm there at fucking 11 at 7 a.m. and Caleb Presley comes waltzing through the door.

He's like, what are you doing here? I'm like, what are you doing here? It would just be bad news. Yeah. It's 24-7. Nobody sleeps. We still get to work. So that honestly is a real thing.

Dana Beers having a rough time in Florida. Imagine Dana. You even have a hard time. Any of them. Is Dana back? I don't even know what that means. To me, Dana is like a video guy.

Yeah. He's behind the camera. So he's not a beer guy. You're saying he's not the gears guy. He's like a behind the scenes video editor. He drinks beer. He's got, but he does it well.

You don't think that helps the brand a little bit? I mean, he drinks beer. So you're on record saying you don't think he's back. I didn't know that he was. It's the description of what is back. It was like you smack, like you hammering the beers last night.

you can go out on a limb and say Taylor's back. I'd like to think so. You know what I'm saying? Or you're not here? He's been a little bit under the rock. I've been on a little rocky path. Yeah, because the knee. The most you've seen him.

PED last year. It's been a rocky two years for the boy. I don't know you got a PED for PED. Yeah, I got a PD for Austrian. Did you deny it? Oh, 100%. I took a polygraph. And so, I mean, do you want to get into it?

I can get into it if you'd like. He can listen to the earlier podcast. Ostreine is a thing that you take for osteoporosis. So it's like muscle saving and bone density. it's really nothing that's going to help you in football. The FDA doesn't regulate supplements. So I was taking supplements given to me by a nutritionist actually in New York. And they weren't NSF certified.

Do they like send this script to everybody who takes PEDs? What? What you just read? What I just said? I just doing homework. I feel like they fax it out. It's like everybody. Here it is.

Here's the fucking. Here's what you say. That part's a little over. It doesn't help in football, nutrition, blah, blah, blah. It's like, all right. I'm sure. Yeah, no, I didn't take it.

Let's let's let's take it. You can't say it. There it is. It's over now, right? You heard it here. But yeah, so being back, I would say that that's what that. I mean, Dana, that's what equated to being back is. I didn't know why was Dana not.

I don't know. He's been the same guy since he started the zillion beer. He drinks beers. He definitely, it all started with that challenge when he was doing it. I'm like, get behind the camera. And I said if he sold a certain amount of merch by the end of the day, he could continue to. to make these videos, he destroyed it.

He sold so much merch. Do you think he destroyed because of him or because of you? No. I helped. People like him being wrong. Correct. So he was like, I was the impetus to like, let's prove Dave wrong. So it was a nice, it was like a WWE work.

Although he didn't see it that way. But it like, you know, it's like a nice storyline in the WWE. We're going to buy all his merch and put money in his fucking pocket by buying his shirts. Yeah. He fucking showed him. So. You just clip. and coupons.

Yeah. I guess. Dana gets the same daily paycheck. Hey, I appreciate you, brother. Yeah,

yeah. He actually, Dana's listening to the podcast. I think he got, no, I think like a hundred granders on time.

He gave it away. He got, he got so caught up. He like didn't keep the money. Um, because the bet, the ante kept going up. It's trying to stay relevant.

Yeah. It's, it's like, how can I keep this train rolling? Because he was hot. He's an entertaining guy. I say, that's what I'm saying.

He was hot. Now is he back? Right. Is he back? I didn't know anything in between. I wouldn't say that I don't I don't follow like you do, but I wouldn't say Dana's back then. Would you? I know like I'm just, I love like asking this because it's obviously people are going to run. He's going to run with it specifically. Yeah. I came to the office because it's back. I literally walked down. I go, dude, stand up. Stood up. He's like, what's that? I'm like, I want to say how fat you are. I kept hearing. He's so fat. He looked the same to me. I'm like you look the same. You've always looked. And he loved it. What do you do when he did that? Just smile. He said he's back. and said Dave walked to me and told me to stood up,

so you looked the same, and then he was like, I'm back. So the same story he just told? Yeah, literally. Yeah, you said, what did he do with it? Yeah. When he wasn't back, he was just working down in Mississippi with Dion anyway, right? Yeah. He was doing video work.

Is there a documentary coming out about that? Yeah, on Dion. Dion's awesome. He's, like, one of the best guys. I feel like he's one of the top guys I've met where my preconceived notions of him did not match with who he was. Like, I just knew when his prime time and the character I grew up with. So what's the preconceived notion before going into it?

Perfect example of how much older he is than us. Well, I just thought, you know, he's this guy like that's so egotistical, so over the top, would not be humble, no self-awareness at all, and he's awesome in every respect. Like I would picture myself, but I like grew up with him, like being real good friends with him. Like he just has a great sense of humor, say anything with him, at ease at all time, and way smarter. Like, I remember him saying the prime time character. He's like, I studied the draft and cornerbacks.

made so so much little money compared to like quarterbacks to everybody else he's no one was getting paid he's like I have to do something and he created the prime time character like that's what he said I believe it people will be so surprised how much entertainment can get you paid right it's just ridiculous and everyone when you start

kind of stepping out of that zone people are like hey you shouldn't do that you shouldn't act this way but the more you act that way the more people fucking know who you are and that person gets paid yeah I like that shit is his son playing for the same school yeah he's a quarterback how they do this year were they good they were better than I think they thought

they were going to be they beat like they started rambling for the first time in like 20 years or something yeah I think it'll be a big time D1 coach at some point you should have gone to Florida he thought he was getting the Florida State job for Florida State yeah his own yeah yeah I think if he gets

the if he gets that job you think a son goes with him because you can now go in the portal and just get that quick and I don't know how good if he's good enough I mean Florida State sucks so It was good What, seven years ago Like in a relevant amount of time

To date myself when I was growing up It was them in Miami was like Vet the teams How about Miami? When are they going to come back? When are they going to be the school again? Hopefully you like to think so soon? How about your alumni?

How about your alumni? Yeah, well, when they stink, they're yours. Well, I'll tell you what, I'm a, I've been a pretty vocal about how they suck But they mostly sucked They sucked more when I was there So it's like okay for me to say they suck now.

How could they suck more when you were there? Dude, I went there from 09 to 13. Rich Rodriguez was my coach. No, they weren't worse then. We didn't make a bowl game the first time like 20 years. Was the quarterback? That's tough. That is tough.

DeNar Robinson? Was he the quarterback when he? He was there the second year. Okay, then they were better. And any year that they've had this year, that's better than what they were. What they do this year? They won 10 games last year, didn't they? No.

They didn't win 10 games? Fuck, no. Or nine? They might not have played that at it. No, they were horrible. No, I think the Bay 10 played like that. I think they did. No.

No, they didn't win 10. They were fucking trash. Well, okay, even better argument for me. We were on par as shitty as them when I was there. What is it? Overall 2 and 4. Home 0 and 3. Get out of it.

He said that we went 10 games last year. They're 2 and 4. And they re-uped Harbaugh. It's crazy. That is, that's wild. Now, I'm going to go back. The end number of people are going to hate me because I'm going to go. But you go back, they're going to love you to death.

I go back to like, can't believe you fucking winning against your team. Listen, we're not good. I've said, take your shirt off and clam up. And in Ann Arbor? Yeah. People would be like, well, you can't drink at the stadium, so you're getting arrested. I've said I won't wear the colors. I won't wear football season.

I won't wear the colors. You won't wear Amazing Blue anymore? No, not for football. We're basketball school. I've, uh, it's kind of, I don't want to sound like that guy, but it's kind of weird to me when guys leave college and they're still so invested in their college. Like, are you talking like, yo, I love Nebraska. I think it's a bad thing for me to say.

I love Nebraska. I know you do. Yeah. Wait, are you talking, like, players or just like? Player, yeah, players more than anything. Why? I don't, maybe it's because I'm that way. Like, when I go to the next thing, I'm on the next thing now.

So what about your high school? No, I mean, I don't go back and watch games ever. You don't care about your high school. No, I follow them on Instagram, and if they do something and they want me to do something for them. I'll always do that, do something for them. But, like, I'm not like getting in arguments with other kids from Arizona about how we were better than them in 2005. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I mean, I think that's a little, I think that's a little far.

but I don't see what's wrong. All the Alabama guys, like, they come from college NFL and all they talk about is college. See, I think that's cool, though. Yeah, but they won. They won. I said, it might not age well. You argued with Dave about Michigan being better then. Well, no, no, no.

He argued about that made worse. I was worse when I was at school. Got you. Okay, so you're talking down on that. I guess so. Yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of losing my place. I feel like we're back to this.

Yeah. The office thing. Well, I know I'm in the Nebraska. I know that. I don't know if you're taking a little. I feel like you both took this side. I'll stay on this side. I think it's cool.

Like I like if you watch like Miami in the old days and like Michael Irwin comes back and right Lewis on the sidelines, I think that's cool. Here's why I probably don't like it is when I was there. We were just shitty. Everyone talked about the 90s. Everyone talked about, you know, Bo and Lloyd and all that. And I think I never did anything relevant from a team standpoint at that school. So there's nothing for me to truly be proud of.

Like we won the Sugar Bowl. Who was like the quarterback when you? Donard Rob. Robinson was our quarterback and then who's the other one sugar bowl is a BCS game we went like three overtimes it was the first year Brady hook was that was the coach I don't think you're paying any attention to how bad Michigan is now you guys won that you won't you want we don't think that's like the only thing we did it's the only thing we did we never chicken can't win three games Michigan used Michigan used to be head to hang with Ohio

same in the big time Michigan's the worst thing that's no that's just ridiculous because Illinois Illinois Illinois is probably better than last year that's that's not true. They just went to and four. Again, but look it up. We just had a little. It's pretty easy to be better than Michigan last year. It said overall.

Because remember last year with COVID, they kind of played teams just in the conference. Yeah, we like, we're ducking. We ducked Ohio State because it was lost by a thousand. Do you think they should have re-empted hardball? No, definitely not. Well, then where do we go? Because when I was, okay, when I was there, all they talked about was we need hardball here.

I know, two and. And what were we? Two and four. We lost less games. We lost less games. Respectable three and five. Nebraska. Last year's a weird deal,

but the year before that. But also being from Michigan, to what their schedule was. Being from Michigan, too, you guys had like the most winningest program. They got, they were getting like, I don't know if we're there anymore.

Oh, I think you guys are. Michigan, Minnesota. So we beat Minnesota, lost to Michigan State, lost to Indiana, got killed by Wisconsin. India was good last year.

Beat Rutgers and double O.T. Triple O.T. took to her beat rockers lost the Penn State and then the last three were canceled. That's a tough look. They win one game at home. Yeah, Michigan State though. They suck.

Michigan sucks. I don't know. The Big Ten's kind of like falling off a little bit. It's just Ohio State in Wisconsin sometimes. Yeah, we always need Ohio State to win the games. Yeah, well, your Nebraska has been a joke since they answered too. Since 97.

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Yeah. It depends who it is. Hey, but Dion, a million dollars with the game brought them in, right? Yes. How's the relationship and partnership going with a million dollars in the game? Love them. They were just on recently, right? Yeah, they're, uh, they're as good as it gets.

for what they do. I mean, hilarious and huge. Like people I don't think get how big they are in their community, like urban, obviously. They're monsters. And they're monsters. Like I told the story, we told it when we went, when we were recruiting them, I went to Philly and literally walking on the street. Every single white kid was like, hey, Dave, hey, present. Every single black dude was like, hey, wallo, hey, Gilly.

It was like one after the other. And their YouTube, their YouTube's huge. Like, they're not traditional podcast audio. If you go to a million dollars worth a game. And there's something, the first time, listen to them. Similar to you guys when you hear it, I just knew it's like, yep, these guys have it. Like, let's see what we can do to get them. Right. And they were already huge. I mean, Gilly already had a million followers by the time we got to them. And Wallow is up over a million.

Yeah, they're as good as there really are. Why do you think they don't leave? Like McAfee, if they were, I mean, million followers would qualify as a star. Yeah. Yeah, I see what you're saying. I don't. Same with like Alex when that is, it is a little different. You know, we learned probably. We probably learned more with McAfee as it was going. He was running his whole business, but we're better. It was the first time we had somebody like that, you know,

and the communication wasn't as good. And obviously, I think McAfee wanted to leave. Like, you know, I love Pat and we get along still. Like, I think his version of events, which a lot of it's like, he was very much like it was the business side. He was like, I love Eric and Dave, and there was no, but there was no, like, shady business going on. It was just us being dumb,

which can happen at times. And it was really, we set things up. So a lot of people who advertise, for example, with a million dollars worth a game, they're not deciding between million dollars worth a game or part of my take. From what I gather, like a big blowout that happened with Pat was there was this big ad client

and we or they thought it was going to Pat and end up going to pardon my take. Can't create bad optics because it's like, We, I think there's a rev share with Pat and there isn't with part of my take. So Barstool theoretically stands to make more money. Reality situation is like if an advertiser wants to advertise the part of my take instead of Pat or vice versa, it's up to the advertiser. And that from what I gather was a big part. I should have been more heavily involved with Pat.

And maybe, but he was always going to leave. It was just a matter of when. Yeah. And I don't say that in a bad way. No. It financially made sense for him prior to leave. and for the things he wants to do if he wants to go do WWE he wants to go announce on ESPN like that has nothing to do with us right that's his own you know he doesn't need us to do it do you think there's ever a future for you guys to collab do anything together he works right now close well all right so we were I tried to get involved with the sports book and we would have been like he had an idea is like why don't we do a radio show together like me and you it'll be like tour how he has fan doing that would have been massive of the two if you did so before that okay we were trying to get a him in and he went to a

competitor of Penn of the Barcelona sports book and they gave him a huge deal. So that will prevent us from working together as long as that deal. I don't know when that expires for him. But as long as that's in place, it'll be very hard because direct competitor on the advertiser. But you're not, you're not opposed in the future. No, no. He's super

he's one of the few guys. What I offered him to try to get the pen, to him to come back and part of it, there's very few people who I think are talented enough to get an offer like that. He was for it. It's just you got a much bigger offer that, you know, we can. Yeah, seem like you got a huge deal.

Yeah, right. With all these huge deals coming out with like Spotify and everybody, all these media markets outlets coming up and coming out of pocket to get all this talent, how do you feel like you've kind of noticed and kind of position yourselves to be ready for like, you know, contracts with like Alex to come up. So, yeah, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's no different than sports.

There'll be some people where, yeah, they're awesome and we wish to have them, but we won't be able to do it because you're still. still trying to run a business. A lot of it right now is in the gambling space because it's a gold rush. So people are willing to overpay big time, like the lebitur, like $50 million for the fucking insanity. That deal only happens largely probably because of us because it's almost, again, not to keep using sports analogies, but we set the market when Penn bought us and we proved

the importance of having media to drive your ass. ad spend. So if Barstle was sold, I think it's like $2 billion now. If Barstle could be sold on the open market seeing what we did for Penn, I think it's probably close to $2 billion. And all our competitors rushed around basically needing to combat us because Penn doesn't have to spend advertising because I'm out there fucking doing it basically had the one-time fee. And they're just accumulating everything. There's rumors trafficking was going to try to buy a bleach report. Yeah. 50 million for Levertart. They don't own it. That's a three-year contract. Really?

crazy. No equity at all. Just to just to distribute. Yeah. It is fucking crazy. Yeah. The amount that they're spending is and they're getting killed. They don't make any money except us.

We're okay because we're not spending and, you know, eventually that'll change. But right now it's a gold rush in the gambling space. You feel like it helps that you're able to like, it's like the Barstool sports book. So literally all of your talent across Barstool can essentially do what like Fandul and Draft Kings are throwing money on all this talent. Yeah. To like, hey, boost us, do all this stuff. You get to kind of do it. And it matter.

Like, you know, I'm incented. Yeah, it's a huge advantage for Penn. And again, I don't think anyone knew. It wasn't like we had all these offers. We didn't. And Penn, the people who are churning who bought Barstall. And they're professional negotiators. Like, there were athlete negotiators, ruthless negotiators.

They named the price for Penn. They were like $450 million. That was the valuation. They said, yes, right away. I couldn't believe it. Like, usually I get ripped off. I'm not a great like negotiate. Well, you saw how we negotiated.

It's like, what do you guys want? Done. So it's like, I'm not, that's not my forte. So it's like I thought those guys when they just said the number and they said yes. And now it's just spiraled out of control. So it's like when a pitcher signs a major league baseball and sets the market. And then you look back or even Brady. You look back at Brady.

It's like, whoa, he's kind of like underpaid to what people are getting nowadays. That's kind of what happened. Yeah. Hey, when we did go into that meeting with you, you're like, I have never been in one of these. What do you want? Hey, that she was so funny. I was going in there like, all right, we got to fucking do this. Yeah, you guys have.

I'm like reading up. I'm calling my agent. So what should I talk about? Yeah. And I'm like, we want this. You're like, fuck it. Okay. Yeah, we're sitting at Taylor's.

And it was right after the season, right? It was right after the season. It was right after the AFC championship. And I was like, uh, they want us to come out. Like, we need to have conversations like talk about this deal and everything. You guys, I thought we're the ones who wanted to do that. He called gas and goes, we'll be out tomorrow. Or like, we'll be out tomorrow.

Or like, within the next couple days and we got out of the phone I was like Stumrush He was supposed to just go out there He's like Yeah yeah yeah

He's like yeah let's just go out there So we're going out there And he's like hey you're you know You got this thing right And I'm thinking Yo you fucking put us out here He's like oh no I just wanted to get us out here

Showed up 20 minutes late for the meeting Alpha move Got me a Jimmy John sandwich Whatever the fuck's right there Yeah Wasn't Jim it's pot bell Popbell right above Yeah yeah

We brought our suit with us I'm asking Dave about For the boys like you know Yeah I don't remember I For the boys, we own that. He's like, yeah. Yeah, we're like, if the, after the deal was up, like, would we be able to have, like, for the boys?

I think what locks is saying we don't want to corner ourselves. Even if we leave or something like that. Yeah. And then we don't have the boys anymore. And he's like, oh, yeah, no problem. I was like, I didn't even know what I was like doing in that meeting. I was just sitting down like, what these guys are talking about? You want the problem here to answer?

I go. I go. I go. I go. All right, Ken, what else are you? It's so important to us. It's amazing how it was. Because you're like, why the fuck am I here?

we're like, this is our Super Bowl. Yeah, this is our fucking thing. Game time decision, Doug. It honestly felt almost like an office, like, skit where it's like, well, I'm going to need to be able to take my lunch at 12. It's like, all right, whatever you guys are like, I don't even know what we're talking about. Yeah, dude.

Dave just quickly those. All right. Yeah. Yeah. So you just want to be able to like continue to sell the boys merch? Yeah, no problem. I was like, all right, Ken, go ahead, man. Yeah, talk about the numbers, I guess.

It's very different to those negotiations or anything like that because you guys had already been doing it. So, like, we're never trying to. where things get weird is what happens to call her daddy where it's literally something that's like part of my take didn't exist. It's something our employees in our own doors like started from scratch. And then it's like to me that's our IP. That's where I get a little more. It's like, well, you can't build something here. It's like who owns the McNugget. Like the guy who invented or McDonald's like McDonald's. It's like you were working. Now when you come to us with something,

you sign the contract. Hopefully it's great for everybody. At the end, we can redo the contract and extend it, but if it doesn't, then we're not like, it's your thing. You know what I mean? That's kind of how to look at it. Yeah. How'd you guys find us? He doesn't fucking know. No, no, no.

Gazz told me about it. Somebody's got to bring it to him before he's like, all right, let's do this. No, no, Paul had it. Like, who was like responsible for finding us? We're pretty on top of, like, new podcasts. And obviously, you guys ripped off part of my take with a lot of what you did early with the boss. Hang on, just, let him.

And things of that nature. I said there was buzz around the office being like, oh, oh, look at these guys doing like the bus now granted the bus start with me so that's it goes me and Dan to pardon my take to you guys but we saw it and it was good I listened what did we steal from you guys

this this environment so you guys owned a 74 bluebird well that didn't have an engine and yours are two NFL players but the inside of it you guys had the stickers we had a very similar vibe

to this I'm pretty sure wasn't in a van no It was an actual bus. It was, we had an RV. An RV. Yeah. So that's also different.

It's called Vanney Woodhead, right? No, see, that's the second. Like we, we're, we're, tell you what, they got some age, he's got some age on us.

So we had it. It's okay. It literally looked. Were you ever on that spider? It looked exactly kind of like this. And we go super like Greg Olson and all the fucking like, it was the, yeah,

the Panthers. Greg Olson, shout out, still my number one guy. Like, we couldn't get press, They wouldn't give him to us. I've known him for so long.

He left me today early to come on our bus. Really? Sat down and just shoot the shit. Like, it literally looked, I don't know, exactly like this. So you think we stole your guys' idea? I'm not saying you stole it, but there is a lot of osmosis that goes on in this industry. You don't even know you're stealing things like, where did I see that? Where did I see it?

Oh, that's right, parceled the bus. And then PMT took it, but P&T looked pretty much similar to what the original bus. Hey, we're all on one team here. Oh, no, no. There was more. Talking, there was no drain off or nothing. Yeah, I'm just getting to. Comfortably listening to him.

Like, let's go. And then like, you take the drink of water. Hey, well, but we're on the same team, right? One team. Nah, we didn't steal shit. But I will say we're a very original idea. People have actually started to steal our ideas now. And I'm wondering when you guys go to, start going to other athletes, say,

and make a podcast, or we are one and only? Well, you guys already had it. Oh, yeah. Are you saying, are you... 15, 20 episodes? I'm saying, there's other guys out there now doing it. Are those guys going to become part of barstool?

Oh, are you faithful? Yeah. Well, because you have PMT. Yeah, that probably would... The thing with the McAfee and the PMT thing could end up happening with us in PMT, or, yeah, PMT. How there was like the ads

and like there could be a split who's going to wear eventually. It's a very similar setup. Correct. We're both talking about sports. Right. That's what we're doing. We're talking about sports.

Here it is. That could be a thing in the future. You know? Maybe we get a little radio gig going on. Maybe. Maybe you give us more money. How much you guys make? Well, since you're a terrible negotiator, we'll talk about it.

Do you guys? How much do you make in the NFL? I can look that up if you want. I make less this year that I did last year. What? I make less this year than I did last year. About $7 million less? Seven.

So how much you make? Last year you're what, 16? 17 last. Yeah, that's like. It's a lot of money. I understand that taxes work. Yeah. Yeah, would you, would you, would you, are you faithful to the boys?

To you guys? Yeah. Faithful how? Like, uh, you see, you see some of these. I don't know who you're talking about. Guy gets on the bus right now. Puts a gun to Will's head and says, you got to suck my dick if you want this guy to live. How faithful are you to us?

Can you repeat that scenario? Sure. Guy gets on the bus right now. What's a gun in his head? Says I got to suck your dick? Not mine. His. The guy with a gun.

No. Not doing that. Oh, I'm not that faithful. I'm like, see you later, dude. I wouldn't put that against, I mean, hell. You're going to be like, hey, I'm cool with that as the triggers being pulled? I'd rather him not get killed, but I'm not sucking his dick. Yeah, we're not like boys like that.

Like, we've met this. We've been together for like 20 minutes. I'm just, please. Hour 23. You could do that literally to anybody in the street then. Hey, guy, walking out, I'm going to kill this guy if you won't suck his dick. No, there's a little more substance. There's a little more of friendship.

A 20 minutes worth a minute 40 worth more. That's an hour 23. And I added the 20 that we hung out before that. an hour 40. I mean, that's a pretty fucking horrific situation. Well, I'm just saying if we were to say how far we'll scale down from there. I would take my chances in that that we could maybe wrestle the gun away before we get into a dick-sucking situation. So not that faithful, I think.

I think I wouldn't just walk off. Maybe I do a fake walk off and then like a turn. I'm not a fighter. But like I would rather, I would rather probably get shot. Have you ever been a fight before? No, never once. Not once. No.

rising to you? You mean because you think I'm like a wise ass you mean? No I'm saying No yes. Okay. People would be like oh if I see Dave if he talked like that in front of me they want to swing on him or something Yeah, I've heard that a lot. I mean I don't know In person I rarely get confronted not because people aren't like I just most people

are normal and like actually think we're funny people And honestly right now that people don't like me probably aren't even out They're like sit at home and just fucking don't go out Yeah probably It push came to shove I'll go right to the line and then it'll just be a giant pussy. I'm out of here. We're not fighting.

No, nobody. The Mayweather fight. The Mayweather fight. Was it Logan Paul and Mayweather? Yeah. What do you think? We just announced. We have a promo. Great job, guys. Barcelona's sports book. Bet this week, the one prize, if you lose, you get eliminated. The packages, you go to the fight

with me and we're in the locker room, pre-fight. The locker room. Yeah, Logan's. How do you think that's going to go? And I need you to be as brutally honest as possible to do. I don't know the actual rules. Are the rules just straight. I know it's amateur. Like, I heard different weird. All right, let's just say their normal rules. Yeah. In my

mind, Mayweather can do whatever he wants. If he wants to make an entertaining, he can't. Like, I thought he could have destroyed Connor at any point. Like, if he's just like, all right, I've had enough of this, I'm done. Now, he's way older. He may not be training, but he is still the greatest

arguably boxer of all time. Logan's way bigger. Way bigger. But it doesn't matter. He's so fast. If Mayweather, cares at all. I actually said to Logan, if you told me, Mayweather cares 100%,

I would bet all my money, you can't win one clean punch. What did he say to that? He disagreed, but it wasn't like totally adamant disagree. I don't think Logan's under any delusion. I think he's like, he's not going to take this fight seriously.

It's a show and he's doing whatever. But I've never gotten the vibe around Logan. He's like, yeah, I can fucking give this guy a fight. He knows who he is. So it is just to me entertainment? Like this is just, and then.

So, I mean, this is what I mean. 190 versus 160. Yeah, but that's, that's, he's not going to touch. How is he going to hit Mayweather? Well, it's all, like Connor couldn't. But that's all up to, he did a little bit. He did a little bit. But, but that was.

Yeah, Connor caught him once where I was like, oh. But that was up to Mayweb. Maybe he beats him. If I was at that fight. He did that entire fight. What's that? Mayweather did he, at any point, like, I'm done. Like, he made a shit done of money.

And to a degree, I think he's an entertainer. Yeah. If he's like, all right, I'm just going to fucking wail on this guy, not let him touch me once. He could have done that and he can do it with this. But who knows what he's thinking? I actually think eventually Connor McGregor will fight Jake Paul. You think so? I do.

It's because the money's going to be the biggest payday of all. Jake Paul is brilliant. I think he's brilliant. And he's going to keep doing what he's doing and is finding the perfect opponents who can't beat him and makes it. Like, I'm actually. Get his record up. And I'm intrigued. I'm like, wait a minute.

Is he good? Like, he clearly has power, clearly. But is he good? I don't know. Even I don't know now. And why I say good, I'm not saying he'd be like a legit, credible boxer. But I actually now am like dying to see him fight a good boxer and see what happens. So he's created that.

Now, I wouldn't if I were him, but. The guys he fought are like, what, YouTube star and the UFC guy? What was his name? Ben Ascran. Ben Ashton, who's a wrestler. Known for wrestling. Yeah, he's a wrestling. And taking punches really well.

And the basketball guy. And that fight was, seemed like the most, like, fake thing ever. I listened to one. Fake how? Fake like he got punched. It looked like a fake knockout. And as he was walking away smiling. See, I don't think that was.

I was a, he got fucking hammered with that punch. But the mitts are that much more padded than a UFC. And Ben has taken shots like no one other. Yeah, but it just takes a little bit that right one. Yeah. And he said that. He was on the ground when he took the other punchers,

different angles. He said that on the show. And he says something that kind of makes sense. He's like, listen, I'm a wrestler. Like, I've been trained my entire wife. If somebody like makes a move, I like I think they're going to shoot like my instinct isn't like up and he got hit kind of like the back of the head like there is the clip everybody has been asking it demolished on the ground, but it's totally different. It's like he knows the punches are coming. He's getting like elbowed. This is he didn't strike me as the type of guy who would be there to like embarrass himself.

Well, I think too, because he went on his show like the day after, right? Yep. And the way he was talking is like, oh, I mean, this seemed like he took it serious. Yeah, he really does it. He's like, you guys don't understand. I walk around. He was talking about his weight deal. Yeah.

He's like, I naturally look thicker around the hips. He's like, I'm walking around at a heavier weight. He looked tough in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he can't, he's not a boxer. Like, everybody said that. He's not, he's a wrestler who. So his two and oh is not really credible then.

100%. But power is power. Yeah, but like I have power. I agree. I can't box. You know what I'm saying? I agree. You put me in a ring with somebody.

That's why Jake Ball's brilliant, because he's getting the pay-per-view. Why would you fight anybody who poses a threat if people keep buying, if you can keep finding guys, because it started with the NBA guy Robinson's like, oh, well, he's a pro athlete, so he may be quick trouble. Guys never boxed. Then you fight a guy with an MMAS career.

What's that? It was a parent that he couldn't box. Right. And then an MMA guy's like, well, he's been like the odds on that fight weren't that great. It was like 160. It wasn't like he was a huge favorite. Well, was it 160 because like they really didn't know, like,

what the matchup was really bringing? Yeah. Or was that close? You know what I'm saying? I think they didn't know. It's like he's an MMA guy, a world-class, like, fighter. He's been in fights before. He's up in, you know, the problem is going to be who's next.

How do you keep finding these guys? Like, we were talking to Biz the other day. Like, I bet I would actually think. Put a hockey guy in there to be solid. So I think Biz would, like, beat him. But does Biz bring enough? He needs people, like Jake's so big. You don't want to fight somebody where you're in danger of losing because then that's the end of it.

But you need somebody who brings the. This isn't a big guy, though. When he was a... This is a fighter. Biz is not a small guy. Right, but he's not... We're talking hockey fighter, though. Yeah.

I was at that game the other night, and there's a couple of days of looking for a band. I'm not saying he's not a badass. I'm just saying like... And there's no... There's no footwork... Bizz is big. He's not...

Because when he was in the pot in Arizona, I didn't think he was going to be... He's tall, but he's lanky. He's not really that way. He's skinny. I guess if he's fighting Jake. Yeah, yeah, I'm sitting here thinking like... But Jake's a bigger dude, right?

When he played probably. No, he's probably when he played. Kind of a big guy. I don't know what you guys are. I think he's around 190 and 195. No, no way. Wait, no way. Really?

Yeah, no way. I didn't, I wouldn't, when I was looking at biz, I didn't, I wouldn't look like, okay, this guy poses a threat as a fighter. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? On land. Because fighting in hockey is totally different. There's no footwork involved.

Totally. It's a way. different game. I can go fight. I don't know Spider. Can you skate? Let's assume yes. He could beat my ass if he could skate. Right. But it's a totally different game when he gets in the ground. I don't know. He didn't seem that big to me. He didn't seem like a big dude.

He is an interesting guy because I mean people, Biz has a falling. It's an interesting. That would be an awesome fight. Yeah. Yeah. That is something I would tune in for and I'd be all about Paul. I'd be like, let's go buddy. You'd be all. You'd be all. Okay. Okay. Okay. And Biz and say you'd be rooting for Jake Paul?

And Biz is just. Oh yeah. I can see what I can see what I was like. The fuck's the guy's his first name, right? Biz is just as talented, like, talking shit and being on the mic. He'd be very good at building it up. I love the way Canadians talk shit. God, it is the best truth. All right, let's hit this last ad read. I found an incredible website that you have to check out.

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They are very fucking good. Speaking of things you're interested in pizza, like, it was Nashville, did it hold a candle? Two very good spots. Really? Yeah. I'm supposed to go two more. We talked about a little bit before.

I think we were recording about Will tried to like, forbid me from going on one of the spots. That was a hard thing to walk into. It was a hard thing to walk into with you guys. That was hard. I was not trying to. We can cut it, but where'd you go?

I went to Joey's House of Pizza and five points. How was it? Five points. I liked it a lot. Wow. He's a big five points guy. It's very traditional. Like,

you're not, I could eat it every day. This, Joey's is heavy, but good. It was light, good. It felt like a very traditional New York pie.

I thought it was very good. Where else you go? You're going to mafiosas? No, the other two that I want to go to were the bakery, DeSanos Bakery. People love DeSanos. People hit DeSanos. And then there's a new one. Do you remember Slim and Husky?

That would have been a solid one to go to. So those are the other two. We'll see what we got. Slum and Husk is like a flatbread place, right? Build your own too. Yeah, that's a building. Husskis? That's the one that I didn't want to give you that one because it's like a build your own.

What do you mean you build your own? You can't just say cheese. You can't be done with it? No, I think you can't. I think you can say cheese. I don't know. I never been. It's a good spot.

It's a good spot. You just, it's like a, it's like an end pizza. An and one. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Somebody told me his two guys are like met in jail or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. They have a, they have a big history. Yeah. Because it's black owned. They started over and,

what was the, where was the first one? Yeah. The guy driving us was the Uber was. Yeah. Yeah. And North Nashville. And they just opened another one downtown on fifth and a location.

So those are the two will see what happens. Um, I mean, this was great. I've done so much pizza, like the Joey's house of pizza, the family, the husband, the wife, the son and the mother were all working there, which I love. I love ones like family running. The Stephanie was the one who banned me was working a million miles per hour. But, I mean, she was happy. I was there.

I think she just knew. She said she watched every single review I've ever done. So I think she was aware that the type of pizza I like is not the type that they make. and she's right. So there's only a certain score you can get to just because that style is not my style. So I did it, I ate it. She asked what the score was

and she demanded a rematch, which I've never had. Really? I'm like, what do you mean? A rematch? I don't know what that means either. Let me make you another one. So we sat there for another 45 minutes

waiting for another pizza. Did it change anything? Not really. Didn't you tell that to her face? No, I didn't go back in because I didn't want to go fucking round three. Yeah. We got to get here.

We got to get here. But their Sicilian slice was spectacular. One of the best Sicilians I've ever had. At Joey's. Yep. 8.5 I gave the Sicilian. Wow.

It was spectacular. That's outstanding. Yeah. That is good. It was spectacular. I've actually never had Joey's until now. I just knew like Blas was a huge fan and everyone's... And how did you get in contact with the Stephanie girl?

Because on my Instagram, I said he needs to go to Joey's House of Pizza. At Joey's House of Pizza probably. Yeah. Oh. I thought you were like friends with this person. No. They just said, hey, thank you very much. We would like to politely.

line. They said we don't want the spotlight. And I was like, I respect that. I was like, that sad to me, but I respect it. So I want to just pass that message. Hey, they didn't want you come in. Because they're only open from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m.

5 days a week. They're not open on weekends. They're not open before, after any of it. So I'm thinking that the popularity he's going to bring to it, they just don't have, like, they wouldn't have like the capacity to handle all these people. Mafios is at the place. Does anybody eat pizza there?

You can't like, the way you did it. Not sure what piece of spots you have in mind, but Joey's house pizza mess of me saying that you're appreciate but didn't want the spotlight. I thought you were friends and I just wrote back, they don't get to choose. Yeah. They don't get to choose. I love that. I mean, how am I going to

go a city in the most recommended place? It has a hundred reviews on the app. I'd look like a fool. Yeah, what? Yeah. I'm not going to let fucking come into Nashville let fucking make me look. What? That's the name. No, I know. Make me look like a fool. Yeah. Hey, listen.

Before we get out of here, talk a little bit about Erica. What about her? How, how much she's influenced. So she's been like the perfect hire for us, you know. She beat like 85 people, right? Yeah. So when I sold half of Barstool to a company called Churning Group in, what, 2016, and we were like 10 or 15 people at the time.

And we knew we sucked at business. So part of the deal is let's hire CEO, build up the business side. And Churn and hired a very, like, high-powered recruiting firm, basically. So we got, I think, 70 candidates all male, didn't like any of them, none of them. And I met Eric. we actually also had an advisor. So as a woman, I spent a lot of time in Nantucket. And this lady was the CEO of Huffington Post, also went to Nantucket, got introduced.

She's like, hey, I can help through the early stages, got a little share of like tiny, little bit of equity. And she'd be like a sounding board for me. She was in New York, cross street from where I live. She's like, I'm in town. You want to grab lunch? Coffee. Excuse me.

So I'm like, sure, went coffee. She's like, oh, by the way, there's a friend of mine with me, Erica Nardini. And so I met Erica just by happenstance there. And Erica and I just hit it off. She loved Barstool, huge Patriot fan. And we were just talking about the business where it was going. And everything she said was how I felt. And she was very different from all the guy candidates because she never was like,

you have to change this. You have to do this. You should do this. She's like, man, there's so many opportunities. That's all. She's like, you can go any way you want to go with it. And that's kind of how I viewed it. And then she met all the guys.

And from there, it was like every step of the way. She had her own company. She had just started. Churning called. I called Churnin after I met. I'm like, have you guys heard of Eric and Nardini? Like, yeah, she's great. Like, I just met her.

She'd be perfect. So they reached out. And, you know, she's been everything because I think for her in a lot of respects, you know, parcel is so polarizing, even though it shouldn't be, maybe it's become less. But she's just ride or die like everybody else. Like doesn't apply. I love it. Like, I need somebody who doesn't apologize when we don't think we've done things wrong.

It doesn't mean we haven't, but I don't want fake apology. She's like, you know, let's do us. And if we're wrong, we're fucking wrong. But we're just doing it. And we're trying to make people laugh. And we believe in like the character of the company. And she stood behind it 100% and brought a degree of, you know, I think when it was just me, people didn't know what to think.

It's hard to do content and business because people had this. They're like, this guy's a madman. He's just going to like blow me up. There's no, they're not trying to take to the next level. But when I went from churning and then Erica, I think it helped a lot. to bring, you know, the credibility that you need to take it to the next level. Yeah.

Which is where we're at times 100. She's crushed it with the whole, what's that, let them play? Yeah, that was great. That was Rick's great job by him. A lot of things. That's another constant thing I love about Barstool. The Let Her Play will be one of them.

The Barstool funds another. If we raise charity, what she'd done a million times, I obviously tweets, I may not agree with Barstool, but you can't deny this. And it's like, well, how many times are you going to say that?

about a hundred different things until maybe that's barstle. If you keep saying that over and over, like say what you want about Barstle, but this, say what you want about Barstle, but this, and there are always great things. Like, that's us. Like, that's who we are. And it was before the spotlight was on.

Like, I was in Boston during, like, the Boston Marathon bombings. We raised, and we were way smaller. We raised 250 grand to buy a guy who lost his leg, a new house, Mark Foucarilli. We did the bombing at, I think it was Pulse Nightclub. Orlando that gay nightclub Caleb and raised like over 100 grand every time throughout the history bar stool where like a police officer was slain and like the line of duty or something happened firefighter in Boston and then New York we did fundraiser 100 grand minimum every time selling like t-shirts

so we've done it on and on people just choose to focus on what they want choose you know to focus on the negative yeah right and it's not that much negative the negative shit will be like I don't like the the joke he made in 2004. It's like, what I'm going to do? A long time ago. Yeah. A long time ago. Thanks for coming on, bro.

Hell, the pod. Great work. Appreciate you coming last minute and being on episode 100. That's a big deal for us. Well, it's a big deal that I came. I realized there's a big deal 100. So I'm glad I got to do it. Good deal.

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