Bussin' With The Boys - David Quessenberry

Episode Date: March 3, 2020

David Quessenberry, offensive tackle for the Tennessee Titans, has one of the most insane comeback stories you'll ever hear. While with the Houston Texans in 2014, David was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma....but he refused to let his story end there. In this episode, he walks The Boys through the full journey of battling like a BEAST for 3 years to get back to the NFL. David & The Boys also share some solid pet stories, they talk about the exclusive Titans' off-season O-Line trips, and they wrap things up by answering some fan questions. ----- Want to be featured in an episode? Share your questions, feedback, and whatever else using #ForTheBoys / #DontGiva and TAG US @bussinwtb on all platforms. ----- SHOP: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/bussin-with-the-boys FOLLOW THE BOYS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bussinwtb/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BussinWTB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BussinWTB/ Website: https://www.bussinwtb.com LISTEN iTunes: http://bit.ly/BWTB_Apple Spotify: http://bit.ly/BWTB_SpotifyFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good girl. So there's a, Bust with the Boy second. We got Maggie. What kind of dog is that? Yellow Labador? Yeah, we think she's a lab part Greyhound, man.

No way. Yeah. What part of that says Greyhound do you? Skinny face. Get that skinny face? That skinny face. He's, and then...

He said three. years old. Yeah. That dog's three years old? I thought. When we pulled up, I was like, it was like, what the fuck? What's that dog doing there?

I was probably quizzes. He goes, that's an old girl right there. That's an old girl. She's a fried chicken, man. What we think she is. We adopted her about, she had actually the first day of a training camp. I went to run the conditioning test.

My wife, she drove after Cookville to adopt to adopt this one. She told, she told you? No, she didn't, she didn't tell me. She just surprised me. She's like, I get back in the locker room. there's a photo of like selfie of her with the backseat like hey make sure this little deal's by your mouth got it there's a photo of her like selfie in the back seat like hey we got a dog now and you're and you're cool and i'm like all right we got a dog let's go you're in training camp so i'm in training camp

but that's the last thing i'm i'm worried about cookville that's where rich fronies from right we've had a couple cookvillians on here who else uh fuck yep well this is definitely really good when they watch it uh gym we get jim on yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jim Hensel. Jim Hensel, mental guy. Oh, it wasn't here. Yeah, yeah, you weren't at that one.

Sorry, Jim. Me and Chandler. Swing and a mess. Me and Mikey. I've never been to Cookville, but Rich was showing us, like, pictures. He's got, like, this huge ranch or this big farm, and it's got like a,

he had this giant slip and slide there. You use on Fourth of July. They slide down it. Yeah, it's kind of rad. Dude, they're good people out there. They wrote, like, interviewed Megan, and they sent us an article, newspaper article with her and a, like,

Tiger Player Adops. dog from Cookville and they like sent it to us and they sent like a big like titans collar thing it's that's cool do you fall in love right away where you're like this is this dog i mean the dog loves you to death like she well she was really close with my wife and and so she left today so now she's us to you right now yeah and uh but at first she didn't even like really like me touching her really yeah she was really skittish for me was she like i have a little deal she would just follow my wife around we don't we don't know yeah we don't know it's a guy thing maybe it's a guy I think.

You are, you're like a classic 80s offensive lineman, dude, you got that fucking vibe about you. Anytime we're in the, the meal room,

you got like two glasses of milk with you, two sandwiches. He's got the deep, nasally voice. You got that fucking, you got that, you got that deal,

bro. You look good. I'm telling you what. So dogs from Cookfield, that's sweet. That's a second dog we've had in the podcast. It's sick.

But Maggie, you're much more well-behaved than the last dog that was on our podcast. We'll be honest. He'll be a hoaggard. Yeah. Hagger had it

go, dude. He was too high energy. Too high energy, yeah. Yeah, we use this company, this company called Global K-9, and they're like... Solid place, solid place. I remember you telling me about that. They specialize in, like, dogs, they, like, protection dogs. So, like, these dogs are so, like, customizable. That's so weird

to say that about another being, but... Yeah, they can trainable. Yeah, they can train them to anything. Like, yeah, you can train them to anything. Like, bark once, bark twice when they hear a knock. Like, you can make them sit, stay. Like, you can teach... Like, some dogs know different languages. Yeah. You can say, we're in them. And like get between your legs, lay down. And lay down.

If you step forward, they crawl forward with you. You step backwards. They're, like, defending with you. That sounds amazing. It's crazy. Offleash. And this dog was great. Like, Haggard was awesome.

His name's Diablo. His original name was Diablo. And then we renamed him Hager, which literally took a day and a half. Like, the dog was like, kill. That's my name now. Boom, boom. But the dog, he was like so high energy. And Wynn is so little.

My daughter. So he would get excited whenever I got home or like, tail. He got super attention to tailing. And he would just bump and like knock over win all the time. And she would. She's falling over the place. He's high energy. I'm not around.

Taylin's pregnant again. We had a whole bunch of stuff going on. We're like, man, I don't know if this is it. Yeah, I don't know if this is it. Well, thankfully a dog like that can like find another home. Yeah. I guess I do you feel like such a terrible person.

We're like, man, I got to get this dog up. You got this animal up. Yeah. You loved him too. Yeah, he was cool. He was rad. Taylor was so much work.

When he first got him. So much work, too. I remember you in that process. Like, dude, check these dogs out. It's hard for me to love. Couch. It's hard for me to love these animals, man. I was, we went, were you with us when we went to Arizona last year?

No. So we went to Arizona. We played Arizona and then we played 49ers. Obviously it wasn't good game. We lost both those games. That was like three years ago because you weren't there either, huh? Yeah, that wasn't there. So this was three years ago, two years ago, three years ago, whatever.

Before both y'all. And I got a goldfish before, and I named him lunchbox. I fucking loved this goldfish, dude. He was unbelievable. And Taylin, my wife, like buys a filter for this, for this, for this fish and I'm like I don't know beta fish need filters you don't they just put them in a bowl and they're solid they've lived

their lives they're happy to see you you yell at them every day to clean their room and they never do it's like a fun little back and forth you get with them and I go you say it every day and they're happy to see you yeah dude I tell you what this goldfish love it I would come home I was just chilling like I have no idea what's going on you say it was a beta too like

it's a beta fish yeah well I mean I don't discriminate on the color of my fish no no no I'm saying like those dark colored like they kill shit if you put it in there you put like two men in and they puffed their cheeks they beat the shit it's like a little boxing cheeks they beat the hell out of them but like I had like a he was like a like a transparent blue he was very beautiful right he was a beautiful young boy yeah name was lunchbox I left Arizona and I said to tail and I said do not like do what you want with our child do you want with your dog and do you want to yourself but nothing happens to

this fish and I left I went to Arizona we lost that game had like a back thing I ended up actually missing part of that game and then a couple days later we're practicing at ASU. I finished practice. Thank God. I would not have been able to practice if I heard this news before. And she calls me and she's like,

hey, and I was like, what? I knew right away. He sends it in the turtone. You knew right away? I knew right away. He knew bad news.

She goes, she was, hey, I go, what? She goes, we need to talk about lunchbox. I was like, there's nothing to talk about.

He's fine. She goes, lunchbox got sucked into the the filter. The tail and bought. That tail and bought. And he died of horrible that. That'd be a bad way to go.

I hung up the phone immediately. Hung up the phone and told the boys they didn't care. Boys did not care. Do you think our Titans team is tight? We're not. Because those boys weren't with me when I lost the most special thing in my entire life, that fish.

Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's tough. That was back when you didn't have as many of the friends. He hadn't have a lot of friends back then, I guess, dude. It's a heartbreak hotel. I don't have a lot of friends until you were here and you were here.

Now I got friends. Reved it up, dude. Got to rev up the piece up. So anyway, the lunchboxes, all his stuff is still in the garage. There's haggard. Yeah, it's a good little boy. He was a solid boy. He actually handled himself very well.

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I have a spike-ball thing in my car right now. Do you really? Yeah. We should get a game in right after this. Yeah, on the bus. In here? Yeah, just put it. down and try that like a seated like a seated spike what's blossom

taylor's boys are in town it is painfully hot outside so fucking hot it's like middle july and taylor's got this dog outside haggard god bless his soul his heart he's a life um and he would just tell him the cushy all the time like he never like we're hitting a ball around so he'd be laying there and see the ball and eventually he'd want to like get up because it's hot hot as shit outside yeah yeah and tayor right when he get up no no cushay get over here, Coucher. Stop the game. We'd have to stop the game and just watch Taylor

trying to discipline this dog. Couchet, good boy, good boy. DeGide, boys, we play two more points. He gets... No, Hagger! Hey, hey, hey, Cushay! Cushay! Yeah, dude, there's a pain in the ass, bro.

He wanted to play, yeah, you wanted to play, yeah. Or let him go in the air conditioning. We're like, no, no, we got to have him outside. Hey, Cusha. Yeah, Taylor was doing something. I forget what she was doing, but I didn't want her... Because Hagger was a handful, bro. He was trying to help the crew out.

We were setting up for a... your birthday party, right? Because I brought the cake. I had to be something like that. Because I went and ran in there and got that cake. It was like two, three days before camp started. So, for those of your one of my birthday is July 22nd, 1991. 28 years old.

Super fucking young. Was this your favorite dog you've ever had in your entire life? No, the answer is no. She's pretty good. How many dogs have you had? I've had two. I've had two. Two others or two total?

This is the third. But this is me and my wife's dog. So this is like our favorite, like our dog. God, that dog loves you, bro. I'm kind of jealous I wish I just had a dog with me to chill right now I want to get a Chihuahua When we got her man

She was just all like Hey keep that mouth close to that mic Well when we got her man When we got her man She was all like backbones And rib bones sticking out You know No way

Yeah would Bailey come out to you And she's She's gotten really Really comfortable with us And we're stuck to have her man I'm glad my wife surprised me But they hate that one day Yeah no doubt

And it was good for her in training camp because training camp's hard for the, hard for the girls, you know? Like, you go from all this time and the off season with them, and then boom, instantly you're back in football mode. Yeah. And it's tough to just like... It's like cold turkey, too. It's like quitting smoking, like right away.

Yeah, like, well, they're gone for... I'll see you in January. Six months, yeah. You know, see you later. That's brutal, dude. That was cool for her to be around this season. How did you and your wife meet? Dude, we met in middle school.

No way. Yeah, but we never dated the whole time? No, no, we never dated until after college. She played cat and mouse a whole time? She had to make sure you made it first. We were always, like, dating each other's friends, you know? Just, like, never, like, really worked out. Yeah.

But it was, there was always something cool there. And then we got reconnected after college when I was, when I was kind of going through my stuff. Mm-hmm. And, uh... Which I can't wait to dive into. And it, and it just, it just worked, man. It was just, it was meant to be, you know? Yeah, everything happens for a reason.

I believe that. And so, yeah, we're married. We got married April 5th last year coming up on one year. Really? And, uh, yeah, I'm pretty stoked on it. Never got that invite. Let's fucking go. That's crazy, dude.

Never got that in right. That's wild. Whatever. Whatever, dude. We just had a great time in Vegas. I can't believe it. We did. Dude, that was an epic trip.

Dude, that was such a blast. I felt like I was back, like, in college with the boys. Day drinking every day. Day drinking, Kings Cup, playing the games. Dude, the Kings Cup was part of the best part of the whole deal. Yeah, except now we, like, have a little money to gamble and throw on the dice before. You had none of that. Quiz and I were like our own two hype men.

Really? Like, oh, dude, when Dennis would roll the dice, we put it in like the, don't pass line. So because we're betting against Dennis. He literally, every time Dennis rolled, he gets seven first. First. And you win, and then he hit a number and then he's like, nope, we're going to the don't pass line and two rolls later.

Seven again. Yeah, he's. Brutely bad. He had a rough weekend rolling. And he'll be the first to tell you that, too. That was, that was bad. He just ended up being, just skip me because I'm screwing everyone. We actually had to talk him into passing now.

Just give it to me and Taylor. How much did you guys have in the fine system to go? Like 20. Is that what you guys did? Yeah. 26,000. something like that. But like usually guys

use it in the clubs and stuff like that I think you went to the club the first night. I went to the club the first night. And then I didn't, I didn't even go to the club once.

Then we didn't go, we went and saw Ron White. So Ron White. Yo, he's a beaut, didn't he? Yeah, he's, he,

dude, here's the deal. He was, we were under the weather. I guess over the weather. I don't know what we were. I guess Pretty banged up.

Pretty banged up. At that point. I guess I don't, banged up. Well, yeah, we were banged up, dude.

He has a tequila company, number Juan, no free shoutouts for Ron White, but number Juan, tequila. And we get these giant pinie colladas. I got a pinocados. I got a marg. You got a marg? I did a marg. Dennis got a marg. Jack got a pinia.

And we're sitting there and we're all kind of excited. And then kind of like halfway through, like we're, you know, hen picking our way through South America, dude. Fall on asleep. Fall on asleep, dude. As he's going. As he's in the middle of his bit, dude. I seen him live once in. I thought he was solid.

He was funny. He is funny. He was really good. A lot of dick jokes. A lot of dick jokes. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of weird, like sexual jokes.

A lot of weird sexual jokes. Yeah. I'm like, oh, all right, Ron. I got it. Because we're in Vegas. He was talking about. Whiskey, dude. Yeah.

With tequila now. Yeah. Yeah. When he was talking about, like, how he eats pussy, but he's like, his buddies won't even eat their wives out unless they shower first.

He's like, I'd do it right after a workout. He goes, I like it a little salty. He's good at pausing, too. Yeah, oh, dude, he's kind of bringing his drink. The drink is like the punchline's coming. I like it a little salty. It was good. Keep the salt shaker by the nightstand.

Yeah. And then the summertime, during the summertime, keep some limes there, just in case when she's not looking, a little lime, little salt, dude. Stay in Munchtown. Dude, all. His last bit was funny, too. What did you guys have to go through? What would happen for you guys have to pay a fine?

Like, what was your guys' rules for paying fines? Getting mentioned in the team meetings? Yeah, being mentioned team meetings. Yeah, being measured the team meetings is big. Yeah. Anything that kind of like separates you from the group or like affects the group. Like farting and meetings. That's 20 bones.

That's 20 bones. What was the highest fine penalty? Captain, probably. Captain's five grand. Captain's five. Also, if you get captain of the team, if you're considered for the week. Yeah. Oh, for the week.

Oh. So did you have to pay? You were only. No, no. It's like 250. If it's 250 a game. And I think it totals up to a. around whatever,

it's $6,000, $7,000. So whatever that is, that's not even close. Any media, do not check that mask. It's not even fucking close. We weren't like super regimented in it. It's kind of like a lump sum every quarter, so we stay up on that.

I think we're at the mercy of Ben, really. We really are at the mercy of Ben. Ben keeps track of everything. Based on how he's feeling that day. He like flips open a piece of paper like he's been tracking it down. He's not been tracking it all, dude. He's like, 1,200, 200, 500. And we're like, all right, I guess that's what we owe.

man sounds legit yeah dude he'll just hit people with the random numbers all time did anybody not go to the old line Vegas trip we had a couple a couple dropouts unfortunately who was uh well well tany dangle son didn't come tanny and uh Derek Derek were at the pro bowl so yeah so they they weren't coming uh kp couldn't go kp bailed other than that we had a solid group we were light we had eight eight and dion so solid crew man do we had a solid crew we had a solid old line crew because like it's kind of like an unspoken thing like when you leave a team you get out of the group chat yeah that it's kind of like

like an unspoken rule yeah you kind of just like you play your time and like you the longest you should wait it's probably like the beginning of the new season yeah yeah thanks for everything so and so has left the group is that what he did? No Q is still in the group

he's still in the group he's still in you guys he was like hyping us up going to the playoffs like you go you boys got this like all that shit but it wasn't just Q like Stenny Aaron Stini who's at Tampa now. Corey Levin, who was at Denver? Denver and then he went to Chicago.

He was in Chicago. And then Horonis Cross shoe, Mike. Shout out, Corey. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he just had a kid. Yeah. That's cool. Had a little boy, do you congrats.

Congrats. He said cold balls and no no doggy style either. Which apparently is like a, apparently that's the way to have a boy is you got to keep your balls warm and you got to go doggy style. But he defied all odds. Fuck, man. Good for him. Good for him.

Good for him. Good for the boy. Happy baby. It's all good. Talent's pregnant right now. I've said that like four times already in this podcast, but like I want a boy. Thank you. Wayland.

Waylon. Waylon. Wailing, danger, Luwan. Yeah, if I have a boy, if it's a boy, if it's a girl, it's going to be a willow. As of right now, I could change to any point. Oh, girls willow. Yeah, girls willow. I'm rude for a girl.

You like Willow. Willow. Oh, shit. What do you mean? Oh, shit. Like, how did you not get that together? Willow. I got to re-brainstorm that name.

Oh, fuck. But yeah, dude But congrats, man, that's cool. Appreciate it. I'm stoked. I'm fired up. It's going to be a cool gig. Having two, though, man.

It's a lot of work. You got it. No quesh. No quash, baby. I mean, my daughter now, she's a psycho, dude. She's awesome, though. She's got my personality. 100 miles an hour until she goes to bed

and then she falls asleep faster than anybody. The bean? The bean is rad. Yo, we'll babysit the bean. We're kind of getting all over this. I know. I know how to answer this. We're diving in.

It's all. But, yeah, we, uh, Charles and I, we babysat the bean for the first time. Yeah. God bless him. They allowed us to, uh, watch over the kid. When was this? When was this? Last week?

Yeah, last week. It's like a last minute, look day night. And they like, like, joke. They said, uh, what if we haven't dropped wind off at Will's house? And I was like, do it. I was like, I'll crush it. Yeah. And I was trying to explain to them, you know, I took out like, uh, my sale.

I went full elevator pitch to him. Gotcha. Told them how I'd be great, this and that. And Taylor's like, is Charo going to be home? my fiance more importantly and then that's when he left I was like I'm sure she is

and I had to get out my phone and text I was like see she's home so she's like okay we might trust you now yeah we like got everything together real quick and bugied out of there any issues no clean sailing

no we we played fetch dude we did yeah he sent us a video we'll have this ball and he throw it across the hallway and win would chase after it come back within her mouth

they drop it yeah she'd like that's my head My kid rules, dude. Oh, that's awesome. Kids are awesome. But yeah, they had a nice little date night. You got a little date night.

Boy came in clutch for him. Good man. Yeah, it was a solid gig. She was not stoked to go to Will's house on the way there. On the way back, though, she was like, Will's house? Will's house? It's like, no, mom and dad is house now. Watch some blues clues.

She's like a house too, dude. She's like your old daddy. I was like, hey, hey, puffs. Give me the puffs back. Like you don't eat a little strong baby. Everything. She's tall. She's tall.

It's tall as tall as tall as like some four-year-olds. I bet. A little freak. Love her. That's awesome, man. But I kind of like how she's different. She's awesome. She got this such curly hair, too.

You're going to be in for it with two. I know. I'm still, like, honestly, like... You have the energy for it. You have the energy for, like, a bunch of kids. Dude, I, like, part of me wants, like, ten kids, and the other part of me is, like, damn, like, too solid.

I could go either way, honestly. Ten and two, those are the two. That's pretty extreme. It's like, you know, like, ten kids, but, hey, too solid. Too solid. Like, in the middle. Because you think, like, dude, when kids are young, they're handfuls. But, like, you got to think, like, when they're 15, 18, 20, whatever, like, they're all coming home for Christmas, having a blast.

It's cool. It's cool. My mom's one of eight. Yeah. My dad's one of three and everybody still lives in San Diego. So, like, growing up, huge family, no matter what happened, you know, first whole, communion, championship, like, the stands were packed. All of our family was there. That's rad.

It was really cool growing up in, like, a huge family like that. That would be really cool. I literally had, like, my immediate family. That was kind of it. Really? Yeah, like I had like my grandparents, but we really talked to them,

had some weird cousins up in California. Shoutouts to the weird cousins, no free shoutouts. But I don't really talk to them. Like I stopped like, talking to them when I was like 11. I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody in my immediate family, really.

So I think it'd be cool because Taylor's got a big family. So that'll be cool to have everybody around. It is. Christmas is, holidays, all that stuff. It was always a party. Like no matter what happened.

You know what I mean? It was like, good. Everybody was a guy too? Everybody was tied. Everybody was tired. Cousins. Competitive?

My and my brothers were competitive. Everybody else was just kind of stoked to be around. That California lifestyle? Yeah, yeah. Dude, they all over the antennas? No, but all over San Diego. Mission Beach, Claremont. Very cool.

Yeah. That's awesome. And you went to San Jose State? San Jose State, yeah. San Jose, Spartans. Jesus. Spartan. See what there.

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I was like a 230-pound walk-on, like, tight-in. Really? Yeah. And Tommy one day is like, you're going to be a tackle for us. You're way too slow, buddy, and I'm like... No shit. All right, man, so I just... Were you psyched to be an offensive player, though?

Not in alignment, but I'm saying, did that kind of shadow your dreams? Like, damn, I kind of want to play tight-in and catch the football? You sniffed at one of the air. I didn't... I didn't... Yeah, I know, right? I should have stuck with it. You should have stuck with it.

No, I just... I didn't give a shit, man. I wanted to play, like, no matter what. Like, and coach is like, hey, why don't you be a tackle? I'm like, let's charge it. Just whatever you could do? Yeah, whatever I could do. I mean, I was a walk on.

What am I going to say no? And then... Coach is talking to me, knows my name, wants me to do something. Like, I'm in, you know? Like, let's do it. And I charged it. So you got a draft to the Houston Texans after that? So you graduated...

You went to high school in 2008. Yeah, I graduated. I went a year before. Yeah, so, and then you graduated 13. Yeah, you're my year. Yeah. Yeah. Graduated 13.

Got drafted by the Texans? Yeah. What round? 176 overall. What round is that? Six round. Six round? It's better than you.

is better. It's better than me. What's 176 overall? Like you're like, what does that even mean? I don't know why I remember that. I remember that number like so clearly. You always remember the number you're drafted. Or not drafted. When did you, when did you realize you had a shot to play in the NFL? If you were a 230-pound walker, yeah. When I started like a couple years later.

Yeah. You're like just doing. I was playing good. Yeah. I put on like 70 pounds. Just crush the weight room. So you were 300 pounds as a senior just destroying the weight room? Yeah. Basically, yeah, three-year-starter got drafted, Texans, and I got down there, and they're like, all right, man, you're pretty solid.

You're pretty good. And they were stoked on me, man. I was playing good. Yeah. Yeah, I remember made the team, did all that, going into Chargers Week. My whole family was there. Everybody had bought all the tickets before the practice. Like, Kubriac calls me in, hey, man, get ready to go, you know, 10, 12 snaps, whatever.

What week is this? It was week one. Week one, okay. They were rookie. Oh, because they, at the, at the Houston, they would cycle in and out, dudes, right? Yeah, well, I was young. You know, Wade Smith was coming off of, like, like, an injury. Mm-hmm.

Like, you're ready to go. Wait Smith was a tackling. He was a guard. He was a guard. Yeah, I came down. They moved to guard. Okay. I was playing good.

I was with band. We were rotating a little bit in the preseason. And I'm like, oh, this is for real. Like, like, like, I guess it's about to go down. Tell my family, like, hey, get your tickets. bought their tickets. Plan. Boom,

I go out to practice. My foot gets stepped on, break my foot. Boom, IR for the rest of the year. I was like, no way. Jones fracture or whatever?

Fifth met of darsal? Was it? That's the little... Outside. I broke that too, my... Those are super easy to break, aren't they?

Easy to break. Kind of easy to fix. Like, it wasn't like a crazy... Yeah. Nine weeks, right? Yeah, like I could have... If you're aggressive. I could have come back,

but they're like, dude, you're a rookie. boom i are like all right well damn that that goes to brooky year yeah that's still cool of like houston to do that though because usually like get back as you can whatever like yeah they this is kind of how the NFL is like if you're not you're not playing you're not worth it to us yeah and they're like hey take the season do what you got to do which is i'm sure godson like long like long term is good for you yeah i mean i would always like to come back yeah went and play you that foot shit hurts huh that sucks yeah i didn't mind it was literally in a jog through

and I broke on this stick around. Literally I thought someone took a shotgun to my foot, dude. I just started limping around. Yeah, because I just, I didn't do it. I just did it kind of like mechanically. No one stepped on me or anything. And I was like, what the fuck? And I tried like taping it up and going back.

And obviously you just started limping like you're like something's wrong. And this is the day before. This is two days before we play on Saturday. And then, so I'm out for like nine weeks. And that's when Levanti David started. He was brand new. He's a Jucco guy. That's when he started his first game.

he had like 13 tackles in the first game and I was kind of like oh shit yeah and then when I came back it's kind of like hey we're happy to have you back you know your job's not there anymore the job's gone lavante davis he took your job oh yeah Jesus we put we ran like a one we ran we played dime most of the time we ran one linebacker so we would actually have a DB come in because the spread stuff yeah 12 so Levant there's our lone backer dude and that's when the legend of Levanti fucking and so everybody's like, oh, this dude is legit. Then he came to the next year, that's when you guys saw him.

He legit had like 27 tackle. We talked about it was a monster. 27 tackles in Nebraska mission game. Yeah. But that's what happened, dude, that's what happened, dude, blew my foot. And it's just like, you're just like, fuck. Oh, no. Hit your head.

Okay. And that's week one that this hasn't in practice. That's week one, dude. Dude, my family had already bought tickets. They were all like, this tailgate was set up. And you're like, man. Just, shit happens.

Did you feel confident making the team when you first started training camp? I had a good feeling. You know, I just kind of... They kind of moved you up in the charts. Yeah, yeah. You know, you can kind of tell when things are going good

and when things are kind of going bad. I felt like I was getting more reps. I was playing well and... Shit happens, you know? Jesus. It's a bummer. So then, boom, rookie year, done.

It was a rough year, rough year in Houston that year. We won the first two and then lost the rest of them. Yeah. Kubiak got fired. Yeah, two years are two and fourteen. Yeah.

Been a part of those seasons. Andrew and I are so you kind of know how I was going to be like, I've never been a part of it. Yeah, it sucks. And then boom, year done, we lost them all. Could be that gets fired. Bill O'Brien comes in. I'm like, well, this is year two coming off.

I've got a lot to prove and show up to the workouts. Everything's going good. There have been some roster guys. Bill calls me into his office. He's like, dude, we really like. We really like you. We really like what you do. We saw what you in the preseason.

You know, we expect big things out of you. Who's the O.C? Hell yeah. He was. Bill was the O.C.? Yeah, Bill was the O.C. Okay. You know, he was running the show on offense.

I still think he does a lot. And then in the middle of, like, workouts and coming into OTAs where I started feeling like something was up. This is year two. You're going to year two. Yeah, coming off I.R. whatever it is for. Yeah. Two months later, you know?

Six months later and, uh, dude, I just started feeling like tired and, like, what the fuck is going on, man? Like, I wasn't hitting my numbers that I'm usually at, like, in that process. Like, when you start jumping up. Yeah. And, uh, I'm like, man, something's odd. And then I got, like, started getting like a cough and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. Were you like an annoy you call? Were you super alarmed or was it kind of like, no, I was just like, a nagging kind of deal.

Oh, man, I'm coming off I are. Like, I hadn't played football in a while. I hadn't, you know, put in work like this on the field, doing all this stuff. It must just be like fatigued, like getting back into the swing of things. This is fine. Then I got the cough that wouldn't go away. I was like, man, this is weird. Like it's not something, you know what I mean?

I was super and never felt like this before. Like tired coughing. And then I started getting night sweats. And they were like really like bad night sweats. Like the whole like my sheets would be completely soaked. Really? I'm like, something's weird. but I just kept kind of like grinding through.

Right. Went on for for a few weeks. And then finally we're out in OTAs. And I was like, man, it was right after Ben Jones's wedding and came back. So I'm like, man, I hung over. What was the deal? And I couldn't breathe, man. I had a terrible cough.

The cough just slowly got worse? Slowly got worse. Like it just felt like it was fluid or something in there. Like I knew something was off. That deep, like bronchitis cough. Yeah. Like you were. coughing really deep but nothing was coming out and uh i'm like this that's this is weird like nothing

i ever ever felt before and i basically pass out out there the trainer's like what the fuck is going on with you like so you're out you're out in the field and you're out Houston in the heat doing all this stuff like in o t a's and the trainer's like yeah something's up we're going to send you to the team doctor and you know and you just passed out in the field No, I didn't pass out But I felt like I was going to Yeah, you're lightheaded You're seeing the lights and everything

I was like man, this is brutal Like something is up The trainer agreed So I went to see Dr. Muntz Who's a team doctor And he took a listen to my My chest And he's like

You need to go to the emergency room right now I get an x-ray I'm like This is weird He's like don't panic How do you say it? Was it like an alarming No he's like

Hey this is This is This is a Can be one of a few things It can be like an infection on your lungs. It can be, you know, bronchitis. He kind of listed a bunch of things. He didn't say, he didn't say cancer, but, you know, I think he knew kind of instantly.

Like, you need to go down to the emergency room right now and get an x-ray. And so, like, that's weird. Got an x-ray, pack my stuff up like I was going to leave. And then another doctor comes in. He's like, hey, you can't leave right now. You need to go to the emergency room. We have to run a couple of other tests. I'm like, all right.

So what the hell's going on? Yeah, at this point you're starting to get like stressed. Yeah, I'm going to get stressed out. And then X-ray led to a MRI, which led to a pet scan, which led to a pets. What's a pet scan? It basically scans your body for cancer, basically, cancer cells. And then eventually a biopsy and eventually a diagnosis. So were you wondering before you're doing this stuff, you're like, do I have cancer?

No, that didn't cross my mind None of that crossed your mind at all You're just kind of listen to them Wondering like what the fuck's going on Yeah, I thought it was like an infection or something I'm like of course man I'm 23 years old Like I'm you know I'm what like I'm Pro athlete

It just don't happen right Yeah It's not happen to us And so that was the last thing that crossed my mind Until they said what a pet scan was And then I was like Shit Putting stuff together

Yeah Like a lot None of it adds up Shit it might it might be Yeah You know and eventually I did get diagnosed with non-Hodgkins T-cell lymphoblastic lymphoma and how long between that scan all those tests was his days at a time no that was that was hours

that was all that was all that night it was all one day yeah all one day so you go from having a cough you're you're at practice have a cough tell the trainer listen I'm fucked up I feel like I'm gonna throw up I feel like I'm gonna pass out next day and he checks your lungs x-ray and he says get out of here go see the doctor, doctor says go to the emergency room. That's the next morning. Diagnosis. No way. Who was your first phone call?

Oh, to my parents. Right when you got out, right when you left the bill? You weren't with your wife at the time yet? No, I wasn't with my wife. I don't think I called anybody for a while. Absolutely. Go back real quick. So all these tests are done.

You're sitting in this waiting room, I'm assuming. Yeah. You're laying down on this bed and the doctor comes in with, like, an intern or something like that. No, there was like 10. 10 doctors. Yeah. And they walked in the room and what do they say to you? Like how do they tell you that everything's different now?

They're like, hey, we have the results. They were basically very, very black and white. They weren't like easing into it. Like we got the results. Our diagnosis is you have non-hotocin T-cell lymphoblastic lymphoblasticomoma. It's a very rare and a very aggressive form of cancer. Our suggestions that you start chemotherapy treatments immediately. what's your reaction

and I had kind of like gathered like this was a this was a pretty good possibility so you weren't so I was still I was still like no fucking way it had fully kind of really hit you for it yeah I was like no fucking way this is happening to me like no way

you know whatever I ate good you know went out and drank a little bit and but didn't like it wasn't doing anything crazy you know I didn't smoke a pack of cigarettes a day or nothing And all the things that you grow, like, yeah, you live in a regular 23-year-old's life. Professional athlete's life, you know what I mean?

I ate well and did all that. I'm like, no way. And I said that, I think I just sat there for a while and thought, I'm like, man, I was just at practice. You know, now. What time is it during the day? Yeah. This is in the afternoon.

So it was late afternoon? Like, it's a dark out there? I got the test in the morning. No, it was like in the summer. So. Damn. So then you die, you're just trying to die. digest it all and then you guys kind of digest it all and then the then cap comes back in person

because he he got the news from dr months who was over there and he came back in person who who's cap is a trainer for the texans okay yeah so cap came back and you're like so sorry like is that when it started to hit you and that's when it started to hit me like this is the head trainer for the hughes and texans telling me like he's sorry that i got diagnosis of cancer like that's super heavy. He's like, haven't told anybody. It was pretty emotional? No, yeah. Like, no, I haven't. He's like, all right, let's call your parents.

And I call my parents. Were you able to tell them? Were you able to get it out? It was, it was pretty emotional. Yeah, I was telling my parents that because they were on a vacation in Europe. And it was, that's a tough conversation. That's a tough conversation. Because you know, like, you're about to cause. them pain you know you know like you're gonna drop something super heavy and emotional on them and

you know you almost feel like guilty a little bit like man this is gonna this is gonna really mess them up and it's really selfless mindset to have like a lot of people would sit there and be like man poor me poor this per that but like when something like that happens people it's not just one person that's affected it's everybody that they love yeah yeah and so so i told them and like you know i was going across the street to md anderson to uh start start chemotherapy man as a as a cancer patient over there no shit and this is still during the spring summertime this is the next day next day i mean that that afternoon right after they told me so you okay so you're i'm just recaping everything because this is like this is less than 24 hours fuck so you go yeah maybe 36 hours it was

quick, man. It was really quick. So you go, you're at practice. First I went to the sperm bank and did it because they said there's like a low chance that it could affect your fertility. So I went to the sperm bank in Houston and did that first. Spanked it? Spanked it.

You spanked it real quick. How? Okay. You know, I had your bed if anything goes down, you know? No way. Just want to be for sure. Yeah, like, hey, can I get a hand? I'm kind of in a low spot.

I got a situation. I don't know if I can do this on my own. I got a situation right now. Yeah. It's really hard for me to. this thing up. That was definitely super emotional. People still use magazines?

You pop out. People still use a magazine? They had magazines. They're like, do you want to eat this material? And they had like a whole like category, like whole freaking catalog for you to pick them. They didn't even have VHS and nothing.

You just take out your phone like, I'm good. What's a Wi-Fi password? Let me get out of this. That was, that was, uh, experience. And then after that,

it was back to MD Anderson to fucking start chemo. Jesus. Yeah, it was. it was pretty gnarly but i got over to m d anderson and i md andersen is one of like the top the top cancer hospitals in the in the country and uh i got over there and they're like this is this is really serious is a very rare and i meet with moncologist and he's like you know i've dealt this before but it's very

rare and very aggressive the thing about that is we have a trial chemotherapy that has been getting really good results and it's not available you know anywhere else anywhere else available right here we we developed it we're getting really good results and i'm sitting there thinking i'm like man that's that's here you know what i mean like anywhere in the world like i'm in houston yeah and they have a they have a trial chemo for me and of course i'm like yeah you know what like i'm all in on this like let's everything i can like i'm putting all my trust in you guys you guys you guys are the best like we're gonna fight this thing with everything i got yeah and uh and and and then the next day i'm still processing it i'm still you know everybody had come to kind

kind of kind of see me ben jones came was like that first night it was ben and jj and uh cody and everybody came in and we kind of like had a meal we didn't like even really talk that much we just kind of sat there and eight yeah sat and ate and ate and just, you know, tried to be, tried to be guys, like, just hanging out, you know, shooting the shit. But everyone was like, man, this is kind of living with that outfit in the world. I don't know what to say. Like, I'm going to be fine. Like, I don't know.

Like, maybe I won't be. And they're like, hey, man, we feel for you. But we don't know how to, you know, it was like a real awkward thing. But everybody, everybody had come by and said it. And then a couple days into it, actually, the owner of the Texans, Bob McNair came in. Because I didn't know it, but he was getting cancer. if you went there too as well. And no one knew?

Was this like a secret thing? In the beginning it was, it was secret. And, but then he kind of came out publicly and said, hey, I am fighting it. And so he comes into the room and he's like, hey quiz. Everybody called me quiz in Houston, kind of like. Yeah. Here, naturally goes, hey quiz. I'm really sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

I'm really sorry to hear about all this. I've been praying on this a lot and the Texans are going to they're going to back you through this fight, man, as long as it takes, whatever it takes. You know, you have our support. You're going to beat this thing and you're going to come back and you're going to play for us in a Texan uniform

and I can't wait to see it. I was just like, oh my God, like this guy knows my name. Like it's the owner of the team. Like, I was a six-round draft pick on IR the year before. like and now he's saying you know what I mean like I couldn't hardly believe it and so um you know my god rest of soul he passed away last last season obviously but you know that that was one of the one of the beautiful moments like me coming back and playing for the texans um in 2017 he got to see those those two games and uh very cool yeah he came up to me and he's like lots of prayers answered

today man this is what we're going for that was a special moment to be able to share that share that with him and uh kind of like have those things come true you know prayers prayers come true that that's a special that's a special thing no doubt that's a that's gotta be an unbelievable experience and so you were drafted 13 diagnosis 14 so you went through that for three years was that for three years then came back and you went through chemo and all that's for three years yeah what now what is i went through like an intensive part of chemo for about 10, 11 months, like super intensive every 21 days. I'd go in and I'd stay for a week in the hospital.

And then they would just dose you were like 24-hour doses of chemo, all that. And I did radiation for like five, six weeks after that. And then I went on like a maintenance chemo for next two years, basically, which was I would take daily chemo, weekly chemo, and then monthly I'd go in to get infusion. This is a super like a direct question, but like what is like, what is, I know chemo, like, Like, how do you just get an IV? You take my pill? Like, what, you're going to be there?

What does it feel like when you take, do you actually, do you feel awful? Yeah, you feel terrible, man. Like, super bad. Really? Like, the intensive chemo, like, what's going on during this intense when you're like, I'm in there for like a week or like the worst parts? Dude, they had this one chemo. They call it the Red Devil, the docks of Rubeson.

It was like the last, for like the last 28 hours of your stay there. you just get this red chemo that freaking pumps for 24 hours all night. There's IV that pumps. Ivy. And if they like turns your pee, red and your poop. It's called the Red Devil? That's the name in the hospital. Is there a feeling the entire time?

It's dripping? Yes and no. I mean, like, after my first round of chemo, I was like, oh, man, this, this, this isn't that bad. Like, I'm not going to freaking. with this thing. But then like every one you go, uh, it gets harder and harder because your body kind of gets wear down.

Like chemo is like, we're going to kill. We're going to go in there. We're going to kill as many cancer cells as possible. But along that comes in the way, he's going to do this. And then as soon as your body recovers all your, your white blood cells and your red blood cells and your platelets,

like as soon as they come back to a number, then they hit you again. So it's like a constant battle to get as much chemo in as possible. and keep your body, get your body back to a healthy, a healthy place. And that's kind of the race that they do to kill all the cancer cells and then keep you. It's essentially poison.

So, you know, you're just trying to poison and kill those cells off and maintain the body being alive. Wow, wow, wow. And so progressively got worse as we went. It went harder, like after the first round and then use your hair. And then after that, now you have to start getting platelet transfusion.

red blood cell transfusions and yeah it was really gnarly man i was basically going to md anderson every day for like 10 months because in between in between rounds you got to go back and you got to get certain certain shots to help your immune system or infusions help your red blood cells or your playlets and there's just always something you take a million pills every day twice a day and it's it's brutal it's a lot thankfully my my uh my mom she came down to houston and she kind of moved in with me during that time and I did some time back back in San Diego and that's actually where me and Megan got to spend spend a lot of time too she was working for the charges at the time and when you're going through your stuff in the hospital like you can't sleep because they're

coming in there and they're poking you or taking your pulse or right everything's beep in you know I mean it's just terrible so I told her that and she was working for the chargers and so she would get up super early and just come hang out of the hospital with me while I was going through it and we would just be talking super early in the morning before she had to get there. Because before I got diagnosed that offseason, we had started hung out a little bit and talk a little more. That's kind of where we got rekindled. And I went through all this stuff. And I went home to UCSD to do that round.

And that's when she started coming in the morning. And we're like, I don't know. Something brought me back home to do this. I'm not in Houston right now doing it. You're working for the chargers. We're spending this time as I'm going through. I'm going through, you know, the hardest thing in my life, and you're kind of one of the bright spots of this whole process.

I get to hang out with you and make my day better. And we just started talking more and more. And she was definitely an angel through the whole thing. No doubt. You know, it's one of those things. Like, everything happens for a reason. I was in Houston with Mr. McNair. And I'm from San Diego and where she is.

Dude, it's got to just be like, oh, thank you. Crazy situation. Like, it definitely, it shows in your day-to-day, like, who you are as a person, like the energy, your energy from a day-to-day basis. Like, you're always positive. There's never a negative outlook that I've seen from you. But it's also, like, hearing, I'm, we've been teammates for, what, 18 months. Yeah.

And I've, this is the first time I've heard this story. And it's kind of like, shit, how do you ask somebody about this kind of experience? Yeah, I don't make it, I don't make it a point to, like, tell it to everybody. Right, right. But hey, we want to come on and talk about it. Like, I'm going to tell you the true story. I'm going to tell you. Because it's not just a simple thing. It's super complicated. And there's so many people that were helping me along the way that I'm going to, if I'm going to tell it, I'm going to tell it. I'm going to tell the whole thing. I got to tell the whole thing. I got to talk about me and meeting my wife in the middle of the hardest thing I've ever done or Mr. McNair who just had my back the whole way or like being in Houston where it had this clinical trial. You know what I mean? There's too many things that that I think are, kind of blessings along the way to believe that, hey, everything happens for a reason. And, like, I'm still in it, man. I'm still doing my thing. No question.

I'm still doing my thing. So that was a, that was important for me to have Megan during that whole thing. Yeah. You know. What a bond you two must have. Like, yeah. I'm sure you guys hung out a couple times. And then you call her and you're like, fuck, man, I got cancer.

And she's probably like, holy shit. Like, what a situation. You guys knew each other. This is middle school, though. So she was probably right there right away. And we knew there was something. We knew there was already something there before this happened. Yeah.

It just kind of makes you realize, like, dude, I'm not here to waste any time. Like, I'm here to live. I'm going to get as much as I can off this life every day. Be intentional. I'm going to marry. I'm going to marry this woman. Let's get married. When did you propose to her?

After I finished all my treatments. It was like that next month or whatever. Really? Yeah. And the text. paid for all your treatments and paid you? It was, I was on the NFI list. Yeah.

And, uh, what does NFI for Pilot? No, football illness list. So I wasn't really, um, on the roster or anything. They kind of, it's kind of like a list where they can kind of do whatever they want. They can choose to pay you, choose to not pay you. And they did. And I had the health insurance from when I was active. And they did.

They helped me navigate that whole, that whole process of insurance. and FI and it was good. They were good to me, man. They all had a special place, you know, just because that is Mr. McNair is such a study. It's just a good, good old tech organization. Yeah. What a top notch organization?

What would you recall it was the hardest or lowest moment during that entire process? I mean, I'm sure there's several. But was the hardest thing, the hardest thing about it was like mentally. Because like by the end, by the end of that intensive treatment, you're looking in the mirror and you don't even recognize the person in the mirror.

Really? No hair. I had lost like 50 pounds. And are you feeling feeble and weak and stuff like that? Like you're feeling like the worst hangover of your life. Like every day. Like food tastes like tin foil. Like you barely got energy to get out of bed some days.

Like it's, it is. It was miserable. And, you know, you hardly recognize that person in the mirror. And you start to think, you're like, man, am I ever going to? come back and play football again like am i how the hell am i going to get back to where i was because they put a pick line in you that's how they do it they they don't stick you with an iv every time because it's insane you're getting ivs all the time so they put a pick line which is like a permanent iv and uh that goes straight to a big artery in your heart so that can

handle the chemo because these little veins the chemo will just burn them up it's so like potent and so you have a pick line but during and when you have the pick line and You can't lift heavy weights for the whole time. I'm like lifting weights with the other arms trying to do it, but you don't want to pop the pick line out of place because you got to go put another one in and just avoid the hospital at all costs. And, you know, you're feeling weak, feeling hungover, feeling like a cancer patient. And you're like looking at myself in the mirror, I'm like,

I don't know how the hell I'm going to get back to playing. And that was a really hard part for me because that's all I'd ever want to do. You know, is play ball, and I feel like it was getting ripped from me. There was nothing I could do about it. Yeah. And so that was hard to kind of process. And then just going through the whole thing being like, I don't know what's on the other side of this.

I don't know, you know. Yeah. 23, 24, like figuring it out, you know, figuring out what the heck's going on. And now I got cancer and fighting for my life right now. Like, it was, that was tough to go through. thankfully I was surrounded by just studs, you know, teammates and... How many times you want to quit?

Did you feel like, man, if I could just quit? Like, I just want to fucking... Nah, I don't think I ever felt like I wanted to quit. Like, of course I wanted to, like, not do it anymore, but I didn't want to, like, finish early or not, not finish my... Finish the treatments that they had planned for me because they kind of have a plan. They have it mapped out for you. They tweak it along the way, but you can kind of tell when you're going to be...

Yeah, Blueprint. Yeah, Blueprint. Yeah, Bluhring going to get this, so. I was going to finish it no matter what And then see what happened after that But it was not fun going in there every day And yeah Dealing with all that

When you did when you did the chemo How long would the like That feeling you were talking about that feeling so bad How long would that last Until you did the next chemo It would get worse and worse every time Like you don't get stronger The more chemo

But it wasn't like you would do the whatever Pickline thing Yeah And that would last for an hour And then you'd be like well like I kind of feel better now it wouldn't be anything like that it would be like constantly just not feel like shit it'd be constantly feeling bad man yeah it was brutal man it was really brutal that that'd be so hard that's be such a hard thing to process in your head yeah because you like dark dark dark nights you know

because you can't can't ever sleep you just feel terrible you got to get it up you're gonna puke or diarrhea like something doesn't go right you know you're not sleeping you're feeling terrible it's just it sucks man it really it just sucked had to be hard for your mom and your mom and your wife to see you in that position. No question. Or people coming around there, they want to give you something. You can probably just sense like, you know, don't fucking, don't feel sorry for me.

Yeah, that was another thing too. It was a very private thing that you're going through, but it was very public in Houston. Yeah. You know, people in Houston, they do know my story. And I think it's important that people in Nashville do too. And that's why I'm like, you ask me to come on. I'm like, oh, yeah.

Stoke, man. I've been anxious to hear your story for a while, but like, I mean, the breaks that Keith give us, the, there ain't 52 minute breaks, you know what I'm saying? It takes a little longer, man. It's just, it's tough. And it's tough, like, when it's a traumatic experience, like, how do you go and talk to somebody about that and, like,

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, like, we would take a taxi to the bar. So, so Q. Cancer, huh? Like, what do you know?

Hey, you're getting coffee dirty. Yeah. So that cancer deal, huh? It was pretty, uh, we've, everybody's mentioned and talked about it in the locker room. And it's like, I mean, Vrabel, we talked about this in the wait room one time. I was like, you don't really like people talking about it

because I, like, Vrable or somebody said something and I could feel you were like, yeah, I appreciate it. But I feel like there's a part of you that's like, I'm done with that piece of my life. Like, I just want to be a football player. Like, I want to go back.

Like, have things be normal. It's a weird dynamic to try to balance because it is like a respect thing when somebody does. And I do appreciate it. Like, yeah, he's got beat cancer and he's still here. And I'm like, yeah, I appreciate that.

But it's also like not the first thing I want people to think about when they talk about me or what I do. And so it's like a, it's a weird thing to, you know, try to navigate. But, you know, whenever Rable does it, I'm not like, embarrassed or anything. No, yeah, that's not what I meant. But it's when it's a focus, apart from, like, other good things I'm doing, then I'm like, okay, like, I appreciate it, but also, like, kicking ass over here.

So, like, let's talk ball. Yeah, yeah, like I'm a savage. But, yeah, I'm not trying to always, always talk it. But if I'm going to talk it down, I'm going to do it right. Yeah. No doubt, dude. Well, that, I mean. Yeah, I mean, you went through that, you come back and play.

What was the emotion like when you put the jersey on to actually play again? How much, before that, like, how much did you weigh? You finished all your treatments, everything. Yeah. How much, what were you looking like? What was your feeling like? Like, what was like your mental, psyche, physical? Yeah, photo?

I don't even know. I could probably figure. it out but dude terrible just imagine taking like 10 months off and getting poison the whole time yeah and then you're still on chemo trying to like come back and work out like it was brutal man it was so it was so tough but you know there's no shortcut you just got to grind away and the further away from it I get like the better I feel like the more energy I feel the more I can the more I can think the more I can go it's it's cool to like I don't feel like I'm still recovering recovering but I feel like I'm still getting healthier which is which fires me up yeah you know what

mean like it was so traumatic and it was so long like as an athlete like you can feel little little changes in your body like yeah for better or worse and like I do feel like I'm still getting better from from from my treatments from those three years of chemo you see me man I'm out there every day just dude full of energy no way no yeah and I'm just like dude there's only one way to get it get it back and that's just just grind Do you feel like you, do you feel that back to normal 100% now? Yeah, I feel, I feel 100% great now. Yeah.

I do feel like the further way from I get, like, the better, the better. So, like, next year, you're even better the year if that's going to be. Yeah, you're 100%. My 100% is growing. Like, I feel like, yeah, I'm back. Like, I can. And you, you said this to me when we were in, I think it was Baltimore. Because we were talking about NAD.

Yeah. Do NIDD and IV. You're like, I don't really mess with what I put in my body like that. Even, like, I just. NIDD is, like, not proven, but it's like one of the things. things they use to kill cancer cells. It's like a, it's like the next wave of anti-agent type stuff. You guys were, you guys were all on the NAD train.

So I'm like, oh, let's see what it is. But I'm always super hesitant to like put things in your body. Anything. Anything. I don't know why. I just, I mean, I do know why, but I just don't, I just don't like to mess with it. Because I don't know. Does it feel like, like, are you hesitant to put like fast food in your body or like pizza or like shit like that?

I mean, we crush a pizza in Vegas. I don't think. that's what I'm a cancer bar just because I don't like to eat, eat like shit. Yeah. Just because I'm an athlete, you know. Fair enough. You know, but we did crush some pizza in Vegas. We slayed some pizza in Vegas.

Sometimes you got to eat some pizza. Sometimes you got to eat some pizza. Dude, the boys got after it. I tell you what? We went to In-N-Out burger and you got that, uh, what were those fries? Animal style? Animal style, but like, I knew that, but you said medium well. Lightly well, medium well.

Get them well, medium well, so like they're extra crispy when you eat them because they get a little soggy with the sauce and stuff down. What's this video? What's this video right here? I'm trying to load it up. The Wi-Fi is not cooperating, but it's David ringing the bell after he finished his treatments. Yeah.

So that was three years after I got a diagnosis. That was after all the... And if it'll play, he rings the shit out of it. Wings the shit out of it. Look at him. I ended up, sizing it out. Someone talking to you? What are they saying?

No, you read the... You kind of read the... And everybody's trying to FaceTime, my brothers and stuff. You're just like, let me ring this. damn bell, dude. Like, I'm done with this place. Oh, off of the wall. Yeah, that was fun.

That's awesome. That was a big day. Everybody flew down for that. I mean, hell, dude, that is... I think my... It wasn't used to the NFL lineman. So you finished... You get engaged.

Boom. You're married now. We're back in the... We're back doing it. We're back in OTAs and all that in that first year. This is 2017? 2017. So you right back in the mix.

Yeah, right back in the mix. And, uh, um, hop into it and dude, that was tough. That was super tough. I bet. Oh, fuck. That first training camp, like my neck. Every time I would try to hit somebody, it was just like,

you know what I mean? You can't, you can't mimic that in the weight room. You can't do it like that. You know, you're down there. You're trying to block JJ and you're trying to, you know, man, I'm, I'm, I'm a bit rusty. I'm a bit rusty. Yeah.

I was off for four weeks and I felt rusty. I can't imagine. The tempo, like, man, this is the NFL. You know, this is, you got to, you got to step your shit up. No doubt. And so they did. They put on practice squad, but then I came back and played the end of that year. So, on 17, they had you on practice squad.

They had me on practice squad at the beginning of the year. And then they activated me at the end. And so that was fun. And I played tight end pretty much that year. And then. The XL tight end? Yeah, next year. They cut me again.

You know, I was a new GM and everything. They had drafted some guys and some free agents. I was literally sitting there. So you got cut. They brought you on P Squad right away. Right away, that's true. And then by the end of the year. They activated me.

They activated you. Yeah. And then the next year you got cut again after training camp. After training camp. And then I was just sitting there like pretty bummed. Like, oh man, I played. I thought I would be part of this again. But, you know, it is.

Did you feel good in the camp? Yeah, I felt really solid. I felt like you should have made it. I felt super solid. I felt good. But it's the league. And, uh, it's the league. And you never know what's going to happen.

So I was sitting there like, like, I don't know what to do. So I texted like everybody I, I knew that was an OC or a head coach or whatever. And Vrabel had just taken the job. And, you know, Vrabel got close in. because when I first got diagnosed, he would text me like a couple, few times a week, like thinking about you, buddy, like, that's your holding ass back out here, like, you know, just like, you know what I mean? Just the banter Vables does and he's great at.

Yeah, that was always fun. And then during that three-year time, his son Tyler, who was in high school, he was a defensive line when I was, when I first, when I first saw him down there, and I told the Verville, I'm like, dude, he looks exactly like I did, just super tall, long arms, long legs, like growth spurt too fast for his, you know, coordination to catch up with. I'm like, he's going to be an O-lineman, like, make that switch. And I think they talked about it or whatever. And, you know, eventually, like, the next year, he's like,

hey, would you like to, you know, go through some stuff with Tyler and show him a few drills? I would try to do drills, kind of drill on drills every day. And I'm like, yeah, hell yeah. So we kind of went through it. and he was a natural, obviously. And now he's kicking ass at Boston College. But that's kind of how me and Vrable had gotten close throughout those treatments. So I texted him and like, dude, I'm looking for any opportunity.

Like, I'm just trying to play ball, man. And he's like, you know, let's take a look at some things. And he flew me in for, well, the Titans flew me in for a workout the next week. When was this? What point of the year? That was week two. Just after the Miami game, you were there. Yeah.

And I feel like, dude, we're going to sign you to practice squad. I'm like, not ideal, but dude, any opportunity, you know what I mean? Yeah, just to get your foot in the door. Like, I just want to keep working. Like, I just keep feeling better and better and better. And so I'm like, let's do it. And, yeah, that was dope. Denez.

And I remember the text I got from you after that night. Fuck yeah, dude. And. Boom, the last time. track squad and I just whatever let's keep that keep that train

going on practice squad that was week two week two 2018 yeah they signed you on the practice squad right

yeah that's what I'm saying when did they activate him oh it wasn't a year yeah he was an activity

oh you were team squad the entire year no 2019 and then this year boom made the squad scored the touchdown let's fucking go

the next week or whatever it was the week I got back right yeah week after you got back and then which was a huge bummer yeah that sucked but dude that was such a cool

you see the best part but like so this is against the Colts aka the most hottest game you've ever probably played in right? Yeah that was a school yeah I was literally getting this tattoo on my hand watching this game yeah thinking oh shit that looks hot as fuck up there 100 something degrees dude brutal but he sniffed it dude

like it was behind you and you like turned and got that thing man it was awesome how dope was that scoring a touchdown oh this was sick man it was So they put this in, you know, Friday, and there was four Bates. No. Yeah. Darren Bates.

Yeah, he was a fullback right there. That's where he lined up. And. 8 D.Bs out there? Yeah. Go to like the middle. Yeah, yeah. Going out of the flight.

So they. No, no, keep going the other way. So I was telling my wife on Saturday, like, yeah, they put a plane. Pause it. Pause it. Bates is right. That's Bates? The fullback.

Look at him, dude. let's go and that's Derek and they're all looking for at Delaney going the other way oh yeah yeah you know what I mean and uh I told my wife I'm like there's a chance that I could possibly get it but

they're gonna all everyone's gonna look at the Laney base gonna be wide open it's gonna go to base but who knows you know what knows who knows what'll happen oh that's so wicked and I doubt they even play it because it was like down the list on the on the play call so yeah let's see and sure shit we get down there first time on the goal line hey, this is it.

Arthur calls it. He's running out. And I release and I look back and I see Marcus like look at Bates, see Derek fall down because he chop-blocked that dude. And then he looked right at me and I was wide open. I'm like, oh, he's about to throw me this ball right now. The next thing you know, like, there it is. Put it up.

Don't drop this shit. It's a good block. It was a really well done because you get in there. Who's that? Sell it? Boom. Sell it. Snip.

Yeah, that's dope, man. Boy's got a hands. That was just like a super cool moment. Full circle, dude. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, everything kind of coming back, like, bro, like, you just score a touchdown in the NFL like this. In 2019, after going through years of fucking, oh, my God.

He's my own just grinding. That's wild, man. I was super cool to be able to put that up on a mantle. Like, a moment for me and my family. Hell yeah. Who's at the game? My wife and her and her brother and his wife. And they didn't even know.

I didn't even tell them. I'm like, eh, probably not going to happen. Yeah, you just told your wife. So I'm not going to get their hopes up. I'm like, there's a chance. But it's very small. God. I would have given them the hookup right away.

Right there early. I was that it was early because by the end of it, my hands were just so sweaty. And the gloves were wet. Those leather gloves too. And they get wet. It's over. First touchdown of the year. First touchdown of the year at Nissan.

How about that? That's pretty rad. That's really rad. Dude, that is a rad fucking story. Love Arthur's play calling on the... He loves getting the offensive. He loves getting the offensive touchdowns. I mean, how many big man touchdowns you guys have this year?

Three? We had four in. It was one for Taylor. Yeah. Well, cut that part out. Got the part out. Can't let people know. We had three in.

We had three in. We had three plays in. But it was like... Dennis got two. Dennis got two, you got one. Man, who knows? I remember when we were playing you guys, I was like, hey, if we're on goal line and Taylor is eligible, cover him because he's getting the ball.

That's like what I was thinking. I was like, the boy says he's got to play in like a couple weeks back. Son of a bitch. You fucking old snitching. You're going to take away my touchdown? Damn. I would have guarded the shit. I would have hit it.

Is there something wrong with my mic? it doesn't sound like it's no, I think you're good that's good man well anyway I don't even know when you talk about anything else dude this this has been one of my favorite podcasts

oh you come in here like just have an opportunity to talk pick your brain about like that whole thing people we go through adversity during a season you go through adversity like it's bad games but no not not

life everybody everybody has yeah has some you know I mean and my mind just happens to be something that is super gnarly like that's wild you know

absolutely wild And I'm glad it's not like a, I mean, it is a super public thing. But I'm glad I can kind of tell my story on a podcast like yours. It's actually like legit. Like, dude, there's been a busting with the boys banner every away game this year, man. You've got killed by the way. That's dope. I'm glad you noticed.

But, you know, just come on and like share it genuinely because the people that do know my story, like people whose families or kids that are going through it, like it's powerful of them. Like when I was going through it, I was always looking for like survivor stories, like guys that have gone through treatments and gone on to run Iron Man or gone on to, you know, play ball or gone on to play, you know, play their respective sports at a high level. Like that was always something that helped keep me motivated. And so like if I can be that for someone else, like something I take seriously. I mean, you definitely are, bro. You beat, you fucking. It's like you.

There's like Eric Barry. Yeah. I've gotten to hear those guys speak to. And it's just, it's just insane, man. Yeah. It's a wild ride. It's something I pray that eventually that people aren't going to have to go through it. You know, there's going to be a cure someday.

I mean, that's not like kind of what I went through or something a little more or cause for it or just figuring out. And they're working on it. They're getting close. They're getting close. You think it's within our lifetime? I pray, man. I pray no one's got to go through what I went through or what I was going through. through but um it's it's uh it's something that i'm i'm proud of like i'm proud to be it but it's

not something that i throw out there a lot but it's not something i'm gonna shy away from that's kind of like how i yeah yeah i mean whether you like it or not like you have a story that truly yeah can impact people if i can help you know not in like a bragging way and that's why i don't want to that's why i don't want to say like it was easy like it wasn't easy like it was really hard like there were some days where i couldn't even get out of bed man like you probably didn't want to. I didn't want to. I didn't want to.

Sometimes I couldn't eat. And I don't want somebody who's going through it to think like, oh, man, look how easy it was for him to, like, be it didn't come back. Like, no, it was not easy. Right. That was really hard. And that's okay. You know, it's okay to be like, I'm not getting out of bed today.

Right. Like, when you're going through, like, I don't got the energy for that. Like, that's, that's okay. Like, you know what? You're fighting your ass off. Like, you can have days and times like that. But you just got to keep, you just got to keep going. Do you think it was important?

for you to get moving sometimes just to like stay in the right mental mental space. Like even if I feel like shit I gotta get up I gotta do some sort of walk even if it's just walking around the hospital lot do a lap. Yeah.

That helps that helps too. That always helps. But sometimes you don't even got something you don't even got it. You don't have nothing to thank for that. That's just brutal to think about like you're such you're this this big dominating figure like you're a big dude

you know what I'm saying? You're strong as shit and to think about like you couldn't even get out of bed to take a walk. like take a lap is a crazy concept to even swallow i don't want to sugar code like my story or like that was easier nothing you know i take it i think it seriously when people no doubt people talk about or ask me it's just i don't know it's it's hard to see like kids go through that stuff too i can't believe it like i'm that's brutal and it's tough to see the families because they're just

sitting there kind of helpless you know that's always a super i know it's like all they can do Super tough moment. Pray or try and give you words of encouragement or try to read you and be like, what kind of energy should I give them the day? But it's wild, man. And you just never, you also talk about you don't shy away from telling the story, but you're never like out front of it. But also at the same time, like you never know who's watching,

whether it seems like the story's cool or not, somebody's in the background kind of observing you regardless. Like Taylor's sitting here saying like, I notice it watching you on the field, like carrying yourself. He might not ever tell you that, but you just know like people are watching and you're affecting them. You know what I mean? Like this guy kind of had this story.

I hear this rumor and he's watching like, this dude inspires me to go a little harder sometimes. It's not even, but it's not, I don't look at you and go, that's David Questenberry. He beat cancer. Like I,

I just see the way you handle yourself on a day to day basis. And like, you know me. You know I'm like Mr. I'm pretty much bipolar in a lot of ways. Like there'll be days of my highs of days of him pretty down low. And I'm,

I give effort during practice, but I'm still like fuck this or whatever. Right. And it's like consistency is a human. being as one of the hardest things to obtain and like to watch you go through what you did it's not like the first thing on my mind every time i see you but do the consistency that you operate at from like august into middle of january you know it doesn't matter how many snaps a person plays that stuff weighs on you and so it's it's it's good to have around it's really it's it's yeah it's

important i do i just love it pair you know i mean i love the group we got we got a good group I saw a group. I love coming in and just work in my craft like that. I love being in alignment. Like I love everything about it, you know. And I think we got a good thing going, dude. I think we got a really good thing going in Tennessee. We got a really fun group like that.

Vegas trip. Are you kidding? That was awesome. That was a blast, dude. And just me being able to like stay in the arena, stay in the fight. Like, I'm going to go as long as I can, you know. And I'm going to give it everything I got every day for as long as I can. And, you know, I'm out there trying to kill myself at practice.

this and I love it you know I just that's that's that's me and I I'd like to say I was that way before I got diagnosed but I'm sure even now it's like it's even more you know I just you've had to look something in the eye that a lot of people don't have to you know they never really have to see you know what I mean yeah that's a tough yeah that's true too and you had to look in the eye and no one's coming to save you yeah like no it's like you like you're like you that's crazy that's amazing it was tough but

no we're in a good spot now man I got I got a dog I got a wife dope dog just staring me in the eyes right now

sign back with Tennessee so be here next year to that's rad throw down you know for the boys for the boys yeah I'm stoked to have you back

man I'm really I really like we're at right right now shit you don't come on the bus with the boys hang out a little bit

what do you think about the bus I'm impressed man this is this is actually a pretty good setup you got here. Yeah, I feel like people think it's way more janky than it actually is. Yeah, we got a de-setup. It's a de-set-up, man.

Yeah. It's a de-set-up. Like, you were saying, like, oh, it's cool. You saw people with the way games. I was telling Taylor, I was like, I was out on the field. We were putting a Chiefs in Fisher, their left tackle. I was like, in my stance. And he's like, hey, busts with the boys.

Yeah. I was like, oh, I was like, oh, sick. And then after he said, hey, when do I get on the podcast? I was just thinking in my head, like, yeah, let's just talk after the game. I was like, this is fucking dope, though, that it's happening. It's crazy. It's starting. Everyone's on the train.

It's a movement, thank you. Trying to get on the bus. Dude, get on the bus. Everyone's invited, dude. Yeah. Everyone's definitely invited. And we appreciate you coming on. Yeah, this was awesome, man.

Oh, my pleasure, guys. Yeah, the Vrabel thing was really coming back around. That gave you a lot of, a lot of clout in the media. Yeah. And one more game, dude. One more fucking game. I would have been going crazy. I would have showed up in a nurse, like, a surgeon's outfit.

Like, going into the locker room with a giant machete in my hands. before the game. Dude, that thing got a lot of... Did you see the Gridiron Heights video that she was hilarious too? He was like, what's up, fellas? I will cut off my dick to beat you. Braval, no!

I'm like, that's y'all, man. He throws the blurred version of the penis on the table. He likes flops on there. Gritarn Heights definitely did him a lot of favor. That's a big piece. That's a big piece. That's a big piece. Yeah, I told Taylor, too, I was like,

you guys ended up losing when he cleared the air and said he wasn't really going to do. He was just trying to give us something. on the bus. He didn't want to let us down. And sure enough, I can't believe he said that. The boy's lost and that's,

I think that's what happened. You know what I mean? You should have kept saying, yeah, I'm ready to cut this thing off after we went to beat the Chiefs. You guys want to, you know. We should have beat the Chiefs too.

Like the way that game went, it's crazy because week 10, we were like up by 10. Or they were up by 10 and we ended up winning. And I remember being the first quarter, we were up by 10 and I was like, fuck.

I thought that was like, fuck, we're up by 10 this time. Like it was a weird setup. Charles like, hey, look in the Miami. And I was like, don't jinx them. I text her back later. That, that, that, that, that. You jinxed them.

Dude, it was going, dude, it was so, like that, that, that, um, the run. I mean, the whole game, you never lose a game by, like, one play. Right. But like the run going into half that my homes had. Yeah, that was big. They got the ball back in half. They doubled up. They doubled up.

They deferred. Because they were up by, was it tied? It was 17, 17. I think it was 17, 17, 17. No, you're right, it was 1714. No. Yeah, because I... How'd you get four points after you had 10?

So I'm off. I'm off on something. Maybe 2117? No, no, no. We scored three the first drive, seven, the second drive, seven the third drive. So we had 17 points. Oh, they had 14. They had 14.

Okay. I remember looking at Ben Jones, and I was like, it's going to be 17, 17 at half. I was like, perfect, dude. We're even with the best offense in the league at halftime. And we're like, we are like statistically the best second half team. And then they scored. I was like, fuck. I know.

And that was, oh. That's pissed off watching the play. That scramble he had down the sideline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a couple there at the end where you're just like, you know. He ran out, like, ran out to the right and like just hail married that thing down the middle. Yeah. But he caught it.

Was that, like, Sammy Watkins caught it on like the 10-yard line? Yeah, I'm still-thoff. That was a fucking heartbreaker, dude. Yeah, dude. Well, you caught a bunch of hype from. I was getting some love. Yeah. Good morning football.

Good morning football. Yeah, dude. Shout out to good morning football. No free shoutouts. That was, that was fun. Yeah, good morning football was about the boys

this whole season. Dude, they were showing Derek's like stiff arm and Kyle Brandt who is one of my favorite people to watch going rants. It's like, you see this guy though?

This guy's in snow sleeves. There was shorts. You got the perfect like the quarter cut. Like it's not sleeve list. It's got like a little tiny baby sleeve. Yeah. Like that like the 80s. strength coach, dude.

You were born too late. Like, you're an 80s guy through and through him. You were born too late, bro. Yeah, no. Yeah. Well, they came up to me, Arthur and Raves did, like, after the Denver game. Like, please, we just miss your presence on the sideline, bro. Like.

They said that? Yeah. Hell yeah. You're coming to all the away games. I was like, let's do it. They like my presents? I'm like, I'm going full meathead, man. Cut off.

Bicep girls before the game. You were hitting those. girls hard too. There's a couple games. I was kind of like, man, I need to get a little pump. And I'd see you doing it. I'd go grab a band. By the end of the year, we had a good group of guys.

Gotta keep that piece going, dude. Just get a little vein work in there. Yeah. A little vein work. You got questions up there. Correct it. What do you guys enjoy more, run block or pass block? From our fellow friend Jake Disher.

Run all day. Yeah, probably run. Pass blocking is stressful, dude. Stressful. Third down. Three jet. Lee Lyman are good. Yeah, they are.

How difficult is to make the mid-season switch from protecting Marriota to Tannahill? Is there even a difference? No. Not really. I didn't notice a difference between protecting Marriota and Tanna Hill. It's kind of like, it's not like you try harder for one or the other. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's your job.

It's your best no matter what, yeah. Like I love both those guys, but let's say I didn't like one of those guys, I'd still block just as hard. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Yeah. What's it like playing with Taylor? from Hans Rivera.

I think Taylor said it. You never know what you're going to get with Taylor when he comes in in the morning. He's like, he comes in and someone will say something to him, like a coach or something or to say what thing to him, and he comes in, he's like, well, my day's ruined. And then you're like, we're in for a long one. You know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

Or some days he comes in and he's like, man, I slept great. And it's just like the most awesome day ever. but, dude, I don't do well with authority. I do not do well with authority. When people are on my case, I'm like, fuck everybody, dude. First thing in the morning, too, I haven't even had a cup of coffee or breakfast. I'm like, just at 7.30. Meeting started eight, Keith, not 7.30.

And I've gone in early of 7.30, and they say something to me. Fucking day's ruined. Fucking day's ruined. And I meet it as a joke, but then it ends up being real. I always start off by being like, no, fuck. I'm kidding, guys. And then, like, something in my head's like, but you're not kidding. Taylor.

You want to kill these motherfuckers. Oh, bad. No, it's a lot of fun because there's so much, like, energy surrounding this guy, you know. Yeah. Like, there's just, like, every day. And so, like, it's always, we got action every day. There's action, baby. Some way, former action.

Hey, we got action. We got action. And so I'm about it, and that is always fun. The, um, we were, when, after we played Baltimore, Keith came in as, like, I don't know what you guys were doing, but keep doing it. like keep everything the same. Like there's gonna be day, I'm in a weird mood.

There's gonna be day Taylor's in a weird fucking mood. That's what he said? It's known. Like, it's known. Which put me in a bad mood. Fuck you.

No, I'm just kidding. Don't let me like that. Yeah. Don't look like that. God, dude, I can get a little bipolar

though, for real. Only when Nate doesn't do what he's supposed to. That's like a big. Yeah. Nate started out as the worst rookie ever ended as the second worst rookie ever.

He like, he did better. He went up. He went up. He did better. He was great in Vegas. He was great in Vegas. He did a good job.

He got tickled Turkey to a couple times. Not very good of categories, but awful at categories. We were playing categories. You never play Kings Cup? Yeah. We get to categories. And it was you, right? You're like names of, names of countries.

Any countries in general. Any country in the world. He's the first person. Says North America. We're like, yo, just sit, like, it's a continent. Yeah. I would understand if you said Africa. Like, if you said Africa, like, like, like,

You're not from there. You don't live in that area. Like, I've said that before. Yeah. You know, but like, I get to Antarctica. Like, that's a continent. Yeah.

But, like, North America? You're talking about, you're probably the place you live. Like, you're born there. Then, that's the one you went with. That's crazy, bro. That's a tough answer, but. What was it like being on hard knocks with the Texans?

Oh. Wait, were you on? Were you? Yeah. They went to the hospital with me. We did all that. Oh, really? So you didn't come to Washington?

No, I was in Washington. Were you playing? Yeah. Well, I mean, I was going through my stuff. Yeah, that was epic. Yeah, yeah, that was epic. That was you guys. That was all you guys.

That was for sure. Through the day before. I know. Everybody was like, you know, the coaches were like, or were they like pissed off or something as you guys? Yeah, because we landed off the plane straight to practice. Which is the most unsafe things you can do. It's the worst.

just the worst. And it was a really shitty practice. And they kicked our ass. And then the next night in the meetings, it was like, I'm not saying fight, but I'm not saying not fight. I want my team to be a bunch of badasses.

And everyone's like, fight tomorrow. I guess it's about to go down. Holy shit. Like, it went down. It worked, though. Everybody fought.

They split us up. And then practice was over. The practice was over, dude. Really? Yeah. So we got to go leave. early, which we thought it was awesome. Yeah, what a gig.

Yeah. If it's like, hey, don't fight or we're going to end to practice early, I'm swinging the first throw. I'm swinging first. That's usually how we're going to leave. It was, yeah. I can't hear. It was a big rumble. I remember seeing like some video footage, Vince Wolfork almost connected with somebody on some huge haymaker,

and I was like, that person would have died. Might have, yeah, for real. Vince is a huge, huge man. And that body was off the ground throwing a haymaker. He just missed. really yeah he would have killed somebody had to connect with that would have been insane but yeah that was a good scrap that was a good scrap he fucked that center up too I saw a video of like Vince taking the red skin they were doing the one-on-ones and took the

redskin center like yeah just boring yards past the dummy past the whatever probably Corey Lichten Stagger he's like an undersized center too he got smokehouse dummy dumbed just on skates yeah slapped and tickled shit happens dude people get god all the time yeah people get god all the time that's all that's pretty much all

Vince's got right there but that bowl if he if he hits you with it he's a big human man he's a big fucking human being he was I hit him one time I got a stinger and he didn't even see me coming you know I'm saying I ripped in there and boom

I was like oh fuck and he was like he didn't even feel me dude what else we got we got two more out of I gotta get out of here Yeah, we got to roll. We'll work out routines. I mean, it's probably usual, right? Scaled up.

You just, yeah, you just grind. And then whenever you're, yeah. What else we got? What is that last question? Does David ever get cold? Never. I'm never cold. Dude.

P.B. I did more sweats in the campus. Yeah, you kind of sold out. You were wearing, you were on the short shorts. The longers. I sold out New Kansas City was too cold It was freezing

I still went sleeveless You're the guy that would go Like sleeveless in shorts Like every game Every game in the weather Look good too He had he had his wrist taped For what

You know what You look at him and go Why? I like that You should have paid just ready You should have painted your face too Oh shit that's cool Well I would do the workout

With Keith before Yeah And then I just wouldn't take them off You'll be You'll be playing next year but if there's ever a game, you need to have like a milk carton with you. And just hold the milk carton, walk around,

just fucking drink right out of the milk carton. And put tape over and write badger milk. Yeah. That's solid. Or just drink badger milk. They sell that? Maybe. We can find out.

No free shout out. I shout to badger milk. All right. All right. That's a wrap. David, I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate you.

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