Bussin' With The Boys - Delanie Walker Enters The Inside The Bus Hall Of Fame | Inside The Bus

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Welcome back to another episode of Inside The Bus. Being that this is our 20th episode, we had to bring on a special guest and one of the boys, Delanie Walker. Delanie has gotten super tight with the boys over the last couple years and so he had to jump on the pod. He gets into his path from JUCO to Central Missouri and then to the NFL. He also tells some hilarious stories of going to a predominantly white school in college. The boys then get into when Delanie thought he was actually going to make it to the league and challenges he faced going to a D2 school. Finally the guys get into his time with the San Francisco 49ers and the Tennessee Titans. Be prepared for a lot of laughs and some actual real conversations. Enjoy the Friday hang and as always, much love. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got two. I'm ready to go right up. to present day. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to episode 20 of Inside the Bus. Jared's got, he, uh, this episode 20, we had, we had to have one of the greatest guests of all time, the future Hall of Famer, Titans Hall of Famer, and just one of the, overall,

just one of the boys. Give it up for Delaney Walker. Thank you all. Thank you all for having me. I think hands down our favorite of the talent. Without a doubt. From day one always has shown love. He always comes to the back, chops it up. There's a lot of stories that Delaney has for us that can't be shared on podcast.

But he has created and added to the culture of the back of the bus more than anybody. For sure. And that's why this question that I was talking about before, I feel like this question is only for Delaney. and like he can only answer it. What was your first impression of each guy in the back? Since you've been around us so much, you've hung out with us so much, you come in the back and just chop it up.

What is your first impression of each of all of us? That's a good question to be honest with y'all, because all y'all have something different about y'all, but similar, you know what I mean? Right. All white. Definitely all white, for sure, all white. But y'all just do something different.

y'all carry yourself different but when y'all get around each other y'all kind of almost have that same thinking mindset and i like that but the first thing about you guys was i said what i thought about y'all were y'all go getters bro because i can remember from the beginning i don't know if y'all was getting paid to do this or whatnot but you're not to just clarify like y'all were grinding you know just seeing the videos that were coming out of And honestly, like, I can remember the first, I don't know how many people worked on that first episode, but that first episode went crazy. And I think I got even more popular over,

fuck, what was it? It was a- The IV story? Draft the tight, no, draft the tight end, he won't fucking play. Like, that shit went crazy, right? And then I realized like, they, these dudes get it. You know what I'm saying?

Y'all get what makes shit works. Because even the content now, the people will be like, Who, man, you crazy, you funny, how you put that together. And I'm like, it ain't me. It ain't me. It's this dudes that when you see them, you probably wouldn't even think they were doing that type of shit. You look like athletes. Yeah, yeah.

Now, yeah, y'all kind of, y'all got athletic abilities, you know what I'm saying? For the most part. Yeah, for the most part. I mean, Jared. Oh, they did. Jared is the gangster, you know. He didn't play sports. He didn't play sports.

He got the most black in him, I think. He pulled up to the rolling with the- with the burner, you know, he willing to sacrifice his life. He was. No, but all you guys, man, y'all seemed like y'all was like college dudes and y'all has, y'all was hungry to be successful. And that's what I like, I like y'all. I feel like I kind of relate to y'all more than I relate to Will and Taylor.

I don't know why, but that's what I feel, right? Like, because after we get down with the show, it's like, I don't care about talking to them, you know what I'm saying? I come, want to talk to y'all in the back because the conversations are more real. I feel like, you're just back at college, just hanging up with a bunch of white dudes again,

just talking about random shit. Yeah, that's what they feel like, to be honest with. It's like, I can, I know I'm older than everybody in here, but like when I come around you guys, I feel like I'm one of y'all, and that goes to y'all just accepting me, you know what I'm saying? I know I'm crazy as hell.

And the story, stories we talk about. Sometimes I get y'all to open up about personal stuff. And that's what I like about it because we kind of, we throw punches at each other and keep it moving. Love the A. So while we're kind of on the topic of we remind you of maybe those college days, give us a little background story for anyone who's not aware of where you're from and how you got to where you were in college. And then we can kind of go from there because I know there's going to be a few listeners and maybe this is their first time hearing from you. But majority probably 99% have heard everything.

but let's take you through like one percenters. Yeah, for the one percenters. Oh, yeah, so first I'll start off, I'm from Los Angeles, California. Long story, but I'm going to give you all that short version. Highly recruited in college, but I got, I mean in high school, but I got in trouble. I got a felony, salt and battery coming out of high school.

So I couldn't leave the stay of California for two years. Pretty much did the Juko route. But when I was in Juko, man, I was just, I was still around the same people, you know what I mean? And they didn't care for my future. And I didn't care for my future as much as neither. Because if I did the things that I did, obviously I didn't. But I had another opportunity.

Man, thank God for the Central Missouri State. They saw something in me. It was like, look, we want to give you a shot. We want you to come up here to Central Missouri. First off, never heard of Central Missouri. Never thought I would be in Missouri. So I get to Missouri. Madame Lee White School, you know what I'm saying?

Well, I get there and cats, like, if you black, you either play sports or shit, you, you, you, you want to be white. You didn't know those fairies at the time, so. Yeah, I didn't know. I was like, okay, either one. Shit, I guess I'm going to choose to play sports for right now. But so I get there. I stay in the dorm for the first year. I ain't really meet a lot of people, but then I met this guy named Corey Bringis, white guy, you know.

Bringis. Yeah, Corey, still my dog. I still talk to him every once in a while. But so he plays safety. And I was like, damn, man, I want to learn how to talk to white girls. And he's like, what you mean? Yeah, he's like, what you mean? I'm like, I've never talked to a white girl before, right?

So, like, it's coming from where I live. It wasn't too many white girls. And if it was a white girl in our neighborhood, she was fucking busted. Ratchet, disgusted. I ain't talking to that. You know what I'm saying? She's talking black and all that bullshit. I don't want that.

So he's like, you know what? Move in with me and my roommate. So it was three of those dudes living in his house. And he was like, you want to move in with it? So I said, yeah, let's do it. I move in with him. I never drank Natty light. I, man, fireball, chewing.

I mean, I went up in there and my whole attitude changed on life. Like, I realized I was stuck in a box, man. whole life I've been stuck in the box and I never experienced anything fun and then when I got the central and I live with Corey and them they took me snowboarding they took me to the beach they took me they pretty much show me what I was missing out my whole entire life and I love hanging with them like it was I remember like some like the fraternity dudes would come like man why you always messing with white boys like why you always hang with those white boys and I'll be mad like I'm my dogs like you know what I'm saying them my roommates them my boys like any day

hey, you want to test them, you're going to have to chop it up with me. Because they show me love. And I never seen that before. You know, like I said, I come from the hood. So, like, we've been always tall. You got to be careful. You got to be careful around them.

But when I got there, it was like, they didn't even see it that way. They were just like, bro, we brothers. You know what I'm saying? And I love that about them because I was different. You know, they had to relate to me because I was totally different. And then I was saying things I've never seen before.

that made me just be like, damn, why are they doing this? You know what I'm saying? Not understanding it, but being there made me understand life is bigger than where we all come from, right? Because everybody got to value differences because we don't know how that person grew up.

And they opened my eyes to a lot of stuff, man, and I was thankful. And then that goes to your question on why I hang, like hanging with y'all because y'all give me those vibes. Like, it's the same. It's like, I don't care where Dee come from. I don't care who he is. He cool with us.

He act like us. I fuck with him. And that's what I'm used to. So anytime I can relate to that, I kind of, I guess I cling on to it. You know what I mean? Hell yeah. That's a real stuff right there. That's real.

Wait, I remember back in the day, I don't know if it was a couple years ago, you talked about how when you first got there, those boys took you out like shopping and got to like new clothes. You got at least tell that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So I've ever, like, like, I told half of it when I told I wanted to get white chicks. And he really was like, dressed like that.

That's how he told me, like, you look like an L.A. like hood movie. You know, I was wearing, at this time, I was wearing Jabot's size 42. I was wearing 5x T's. Like, the T came down to my knees. Ferely showing. Like, I'm talking about double, I'm wearing boxers, basketball shorts, jeans. Ready for anything. Ready for anything.

I'm ready for anything. You know, I'm ready for anything. So he was like, dude, you're not going to get no white girls out here like that. I'm like, I'm pimping. You know what I'm saying? He's like, no, trust me, we got to take you to Armicombrecht. Is that how you say? Abercombeian, bitch.

Yes, it is exactly how you say it. So he take me there. I walk in there. I'm like, ain't nothing in here going to fit me. Like that's what I was thinking because, you know, you walk in, you know, the first thing you see the white boy with his shirt off. Right. The, he got the jeans on, no belt. That was back when the Abercrombie, like, the marketing for it was literally just shirtless, ripped jeans.

Like, it smelled show. Insane amounts of colloquium. It was crazy. Yeah, that's when I went in there. And I'm like, dude. Be for real. Like, me for real. And he was like, don't worry, you know what I'm saying?

Try these on them. I come out like. they're kind of tight everything was tight everything was tight but he's gonna put these them put these shoes on with them I'm like oh shit

this berries he's coming together now he ain't a boy looking all right he was like try these rainbows I'm like man nigga don't wear open toes sandals you know what I'm saying I just never done that before

I've never wore sandals without socks right you know what I'm saying so like when they shot me those I try to slide them on with the socks. I'm like, they're like, what you're doing? I'm like, yo, the socks, the things won't go through. The thongs, they won't go through.

So they're like, you got to take your socks off. I ain't, I ain't going to carry it. It took me a while to really buy into the no socks, but when I did, we had went to a day party. Fairfully. First Dardy. It was like, I was a new student. And I already had been here.

Everybody was like, hey, who are you? I'm like, I'm number three. Wait, you're number three. Oh, my God. You know, after that, I'm swimming. I'm blowing them back. I'm going to, hey, I'm going to Navy Blue. I'm going to all the spots.

Like, oh, yeah, it's time to wear a little tighter jacket. I'm out here killing. Old Navy. Oh, Navy. It's so funny. It literally feels like, like, it'd be like a movie, like the reverse like, like, I don't know what it be, but it's like just two white dudes taking this dude from fucking like LA Central. And they're like, we're going to deck him out.

And then all of a sudden you just take over the town. Take over. I mean, I'm wearing. I go back home. Kat's like, man, what the fuck are you wearing? Like my homies like, what are you wearing, bro? I'm like, oh, bro. Yeah, I'm like, yo, this is it.

I'm telling like, hey, this is it. This is how you bust down. I'm like, we're going to go to Ontario Mills. Watch how many white bitches I bus. They like, swear the guy. Oh, hey, no, can I cuss? Yeah. So I'm like, let's do it.

We go to the mills. I'm like, hey there, I'm just walking up. They're like, you tripping. I'm locking up the white girls. How you doing? They're like, oh, you like, oh, you like, are you like, I got these in Missouri. They don't have them out here yet.

Like, right, killing them. Bussing them, my homies, they start switching their clothes up. They start switching. They send me a V-A-Ds go? I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, they'll go. The lady was remotely gentrously. He's justifying his old neighborhood. Yeah, they all dress like me now.

That's so funny. God, that is funny, bro. Go size down. Yeah, go size down. I always like, if you get too much, go a size down. I say, and find the stretchy ones. They bust. So once I got put on, it was over with.

They couldn't tell me nothing at the school. Dude, didn't it create? Like, would you change your journey at all? No, no. And in that crazy? Because I'm sure in those first two years, like if you're when you're in Jucco or, when you're leaving high school,

known you can't go to big schools, probably like, man, I wish I could do this differently. But then you get forward, it's like, no, that was the best thing it could happen. Yeah, I feel like it was the best thing

that could have happened to me. But honestly, if I was to say, like, that route I took, no, I would not want to take that route. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it was hard, but it was hard because of me. You know what I'm saying? Like, people sit here and be blaming other people all the time for like situational stuff,

but it was really me. I could have chose not to hang with the humis. I could have went to school every day. You know what I'm saying? I could have done those things, but I didn't want to at that time. So was it the right thing for me? Maybe, you know what I mean?

Because going to Central opened up my eyes because Willie Fritz, that was my head coach at the time. He coached at Houston right now. He was only, oh me, oh me. At first I didn't like Willie. Like I didn't understand him. You know what I didn't know what he wanted for me. He thought he just probably hated you.

I thought he just hated me because I was from California because the first thing he told me and I'm sure he probably tell everybody this now because I made it. I come in, he goes, one thing I got to tell you. I go, what? He goes, I hate people from California.

Damn. I was took him back. Yeah, I was took him back. I said, oh, okay. He said, you want to know why? I said, sure. He says three reasons. Y'all smoke dope.

y'all rape bitches and y'all gangbangers he didn't say bitches he said he said right he said everything else yeah he said everything else he said y'all rapists pretty much

he was like y'all rapists and I'm like I'm not two of those things he was where you got it all wrong he's where you got it all wrong but you know he told me that he said prove me wrong

show me who you really are yeah I walked out of that room like fuck this dude I ain't even gonna lie. I said, man, fuck Willie Fritz. I got on the phone and I called my juco coach. I said, I made a mistake. I want to leave.

He said, D, you can't leave. Like, you're there. You sign the paper. If you leave, you're going to have to sit out a year. I'm like, God. Oh, fuck. I'm like, okay, whatever. I'm gonna take, I'm gonna bite this bullet.

And then it was every day Willie just picked on me, picked on me, picked on me. But now as the pitcher clears, he was just trying to make me a man, right? I was a big ass kid coming into a place where they teach you how to become a man, but I was fighting that, right? At what point do you think you realized how hard he was on you was for the right reason? Or did you leave Central Missouri still being like, fuck that dude? I left Central Missouri like, fuck that dude. Yeah, I was like, fuck Willie Fritz.

Like, I don't want nothing to do with Willie. but I think I would say year three in the NFL everything he was teaching me was coming to life right so I was like god damn Willie told me about this Willie told me about this Willie said this was going to happen you know it was just like life lessons was flashing through my eye and he cared about me I and growing up where I grew up

I didn't know that's how another man would care for another man you know because I've never seen it like that before. Like he was hard on me, but he pushed me. Interesting style. Yeah, yeah, but he pushed me. Like, I didn't get it what he was doing. Like, I ran every day on Wednesday. Me and him, he'll come get me at 5.30 in the morning and we would run. Right. And he would run with me, though, but beat me. Like, just beat me. Just bad. And I'm like, and he was like, until you can beat me, we're going to do this all the day. I'm like, oh, damn. You know what I mean? So I did it until my senior year. And then finally in my senior year, I don't know, he just, I guess I kind of woke up.

I stopped being as crazy in my senior year. And he kind of let me alone. But when we lose a game, he'll be like, he'll come up on the board and he'll be like, y'all know why we lost? And then he'll call somebody, he'll be like, hey, Greg, why did we lose this game? And then he'll be like, oh, man, we had too many turnover. She'd be like, nope, that's not it. He'd be like, yeah, why did we lose this game? You'd be like, oh, man, we didn't tackle well in the red zone. Nope, that's not it. He'd be like, I'm going to tell you. He'd be like, I'm going to tell you. y'all, we lost this game. Because Delaney did not play well.

That's crazy. Like, damn. Were you, like, head above shoulders, the best guy on your team? Oh, yeah. Had to be. Yeah, yeah. Had to be crazy watching the game. Yeah.

Now, it was nuts. That lines were crazy. Was crazy. I was going ham. But, you know, he knew. That's going to be so hard to sit in there and hear that. Yeah. Over and over, bro.

I would sit there. I mean, we only lost two games. my we lost one we lost one game my first year and then we lost two games my second year and uh yeah it used to be tough but i'll be sitting in the meeting bro like i wouldn't even i'll be zoned out i just be zoned out like because my my receiver coach third h we used to tell me like don't let it get to you because if you let it get to you he won yeah and i'm like i don't know what that mean like he getting to me. He's waiting.

He's winning. That's like the perfect, like, coach in your position room to, like, kind of combat what the head coach is saying, but also being like, listen to him, but don't let it, yeah. Like you said, don't let it win. Yeah. Yeah. And he would do that all the time. And third, Coach H, hell of a coach, man.

He used to him and his wife and his kids, they would bring me to dinner every week because he would be like, man, I know you can be a good. good kid I see it right like you're a hell of a player but that needs to carry over off the field so they would just we would have dinner I would sit with his family talk to his wife she you know have conversations with them just they be like how you feeling what's going on like truly care yeah just like and I know coach age wasn't going to tell the head coach because I didn't told him stuff and he ain't never went back so I kind of had trust in his man and and uh and him and Willie you know I mean, they, they, he hired there and age just to coach me.

He literally told me like, I hired this guy so he could coach you. And I'm like, what? Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

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we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.

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Where is that coach H. From? He had just came from Arizona State. And he knew about me because I took a trip up to Arizona State. They're in H. He knew about me. So that's why he came out there. Another great story from Delania. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that was lit. Oh, yeah. That was lit. In your journey, like, from Jucoe into Central, did you know you were always going leaguebound? Or was there, like, a moment when, like, you get in trouble, you go Juco, and you're like, maybe this dream is no longer attainable. And you're just kind of just trying to live out the last few years of a football career.

Like, at what point were you, like, oh, shit, like, I'm going to go to the NFL and, like, this is going to be a career for me. That's a good question, I'm going to be honest with you. Because like, every time I got in trouble, I'm like, damn,

I'm probably not going to go to the league because this is going to carry, this baggage is going to carry with me. And then I'll go to Juko, and I'm like, I'm not thinking about the league, but then I'll ball out and then coaches be like,

bro, you can go to the league. And then I hear that again, like, oh, yeah, I'm the shit again. You know what I'm saying? Like,

it was like hearing it, and then I didn't get the grades, to go to the USC, which I was supposed to go to, but I didn't get the grades. Yeah, because it was me and Mike Williams. That's who they wanted. They was like, Mike Williams and you on the other side. I'm like, hell yeah.

Like I was in that, but that didn't motivate me. See, that should have motivated me to get the grades. But see, I was still running these streets thinking I was somebody I wasn't. So then I go to Central. Now at D2, I'm like, I'm not going to the league. Right. This is a rap. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I remember my mom say, just go get a degree. and make something of yourself because, you know, D2. Right. Like, yeah, all right, well, I'm going to do that. I just wanted to get away from the city, too. So I go up there. My first year there, I go nuts, though. I go nuts.

I don't even know where this came from. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, I'm out there playing on just athletic ability. Right. You know what I mean? I was out of shape. Like, I did the conditioning test. I didn't even pass it.

The first year I got. I ran it every day and they just was like, dude, fuck that. You're like, you're done. I didn't pass it the first year. I couldn't, the first year, I couldn't pass it. I couldn't even lift 200 pounds. For real. Yeah, I couldn't even lift 200 pounds.

I know. It doesn't even make sense. I couldn't lift 200 pounds. I did beat him in the, yeah. It's true. We'll get to that. So they get there, they test me. I can't even lift 200 pounds.

They like, what the? But you got, remember at Jukal, I didn't do nothing. If people know me that went to Mount Sack, they'll tell you, Delaney was a star, he barely came in a weight room, he barely did conditioning. I would show up to practice and practice, and that was it.

And I leave. When they had workouts, I went home. Jumped in the whip, went home. They never told me nothing. So I believed that's how it was. And then I got the central, and they smacked me in the face. Like, here, come on,

conditioning test. I'm, bleh. I'm running. Like, got to get in the weight room. I couldn't even lift 200 pounds. They like, and we brought, all the players, and we brought this dude in here to start? Yeah, but guess what?

They put me on the field. I ain't need none of that. I'm out there. I'm step on me, running cats over. Like, fucking weight room. I'm screaming at who works out? Nobody. You know, I'm about, I'm screaming.

I'm screaming. I just think about how. like what a cheat code it was once Delaney did work out and condition and everything. That's what I'm saying. I want to say, I wish you could find your, like, college highlights and stuff and just sit down just because I can imagine the people you're going against in Missouri. And it's like, this just isn't even fair.

Yeah. Some people will say like, man, I played against it. I see comments like, man, I played against. That shit wasn't even fair. He was like a man amongst giants. And it wasn't because my senior, once I started working out and running and lifting. and weights. Four guys at least take you down.

No, I'm breaking all those. They'll tell you, I'm stiff-forming cats. I'm jumping over cats. Who in the wait room? Yeah, I start getting in that weight room. Now if you go to Central, I hold all the records for wide receivers. Because I didn't, that first year, I was beat every game.

I'm like, God damn, I can't walk. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, maybe I need to start working out. You know, and then I remember the off-season, I didn't go home because I didn't have no money. My mom didn't have money to fly. fly me home. So they got me a job at this, at this dealership. But my job was just to drive brand new cars every week. Right. So like, just so I can have money. So like the dude that come in.

He also gave me a house to stay in. Like, yeah, the guy was hell of cool. He was, I guess he was like a booster for the, I wish I knew his name to give him a shot out. I'm sorry, I don't. But, um, he probably listening to. So, yeah, I'm sure his daughter, because his daughter, so So his daughter lived in that house and he brought her a new house. So they had moved out and let us move in there. And I, you know, I met his daughter and stuff. And he would just be like, hey, come pick up a car and I'll drive it. And when I dropped it all, he's like, you think a car shooting by this car?

I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, most definitely. You know, this, I loved it. He'd be like, all right, now, it's a minivan. Go take that out. So I'll drive different cars on the off season. But I was working my tail off because I was there. So they were like, since you here, you know, need to come up here every day. So I'll go up there every day watching film. It just be me and the

coaches. I'll work out with them. They all run with me. Like, because they knew the motivation. Like, if we can make this guy, the player we know he could be, oh, man, he'll be unstoppable. So that, my senior, I gave all the credit to those coaches. And I'll tell y'all to this day, like, I still do, because they push me. They motivated me to get in the weight room, the conditioning, to study defenses, man, I'm telling you, when I first started playing, I didn't watch film. I ain't do none of that. I just went out there like, man, they can only do, they can only do four coverages. Cover two, cloud two, man, like man or three, right?

And they can't cover me. And they can't cover me. You know what I mean? So I looked at it as I just knew the game, but once I studied it, oh, man, it was scouts start coming. I start seeing it because they used to be like, you put it into work, you're going to start seeing the rewards, right? And I start seeing the rewards, they'd be like, yo, look, Arizona's, Arizona here, the 49ers here, I'll be like, for real.

So was there ever, okay, so you're talking about NFL. After Central Missouri, like, obviously you ended with a good season. What was the process like going into the NFL, like Combine, draft process, like all of that, were you just like, did anyone guide you in that direction? Or were you just kind of like, shit? I don't know how this is going to work, but I hope it does. No, so like by the second game of the season, I had came out in the ESPN magazine as a sleeper.

And the whole school passed out magazines. And how hype was that? It was crazy. I walked around camping. Magazine 2 at that time was the magazine. The magazine. And I'm in there, like, I got my own kind of page, like a sleeper. Wearing rainbows and Abercrombie.

I'm like, yo, people like, yo, this you, right? Saints that line. Yeah. They like, this shoe. I'm like, I didn't even know it was out. I'm like, oh, hell yeah. Where do you get this from? They like, oh, they handed them out for free.

I'm like, they like, can you sign it? So I sign it. And I remember going to class and one of my professor go, why are you here? I go, we ain't got class today? She's like, no, you're about to be rich. I said, what? She's like, yeah, the ESPN magazine. Everyone's handing them out.

I'm like, oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. And we're getting many money yet. Yeah, I'm like, it's just a magazine, you know, we still got two more games. Did you keep a copy of it? My mom, yeah, my mom got a copy of it. That's sick. And I'm sick to look back on to you.

Yeah, it is. I feel like that'd be a moment too from like from how you've grown up, like every moment where you've gotten a little bit of notoriety, you kind of like revert back to like how you were. And then like you're sitting there and you're just like, why are you here? And you're maybe for like the first time you're like, no, like this is the beginning. Like I'm here because of this. Yeah, that's how I kind of felt because, like you said, every time I got a little bit of notoriety,

I almost reverted back to being an asshole, you know what I mean? So at this point, I looked at it as accomplishment, but I'm like, nothing happened. These are just words and pictures, right? Like, everybody took it and ran with it, but I didn't. And then when agents start calling me, it kind of almost start going off. I'm like, man, who the hell calling me from Houston? Like, just crazy number. I'll answer, hey, I'm an agent.

Man, you seen you came out ESPN magazine? What's your plans? I'm like, oh, I need to talk to my coach first. They're like, oh, if you tell your coach, you know, he's going to tell you, don't talk to me because we still had two games left. So I'm like, okay, I ain't going to tell my coach lying. I'm going to tell Willie. Smart moves.

Yeah, because I just don't want to get in trouble because I heard people getting in trouble. Reggie Bush had took some money and all of that craziness. So I was like, hey, Willie, I'm having agents call me. He's like, don't you talk to no agents. I'm like, I'm not. That's why I'm telling you, sir, like out of respect. Like when you need an agent, I'm going to have an agent for you. I said, okay, cool.

I kind of took it as that and was like, cool. So the season over, the D2, the D2 bowl come out where all the top D2 players playing as bowl. And at this point, I'm talking to agents now because I'm like, shit, I need to figure out what's going on because Willie wanted me to talk to his guy, but I wanted to hear from other guys, right? So I called about three agents and they said, do not play in that D2. bowl they said you're better than that you're going to get accepted into the d1 bowl um all-star

bowl whatever i'm like you sure they're like your name is buzzing do not play in that bowl so long story short comes i get invited to the bowl they they bring me up they do the whole d-war ball uh d2 bowl and i get up like hey i just want to thank everybody i couldn't do this without the o line quarterbacks right my other receivers like I'm thankful but I will not be playing in a D2 bow and Willie went nuts he was like we need to talk after this so we're going he chew him yeah I you and I going to represent the school in D2 ball I said I'm gonna get in a I'm gonna be in a D1 bowl he like no how you know you ain't they ain't handed them out yet I'm like I know for a fact I'm getting in one he like you've been

talking to an agent I'm like I have been talking to a few agents that told me that my name is buzzing he like they just saying that they want you to sign with them. They all just saying that don't believe them. You're not going to make it to a D1 bowl. So when he said that, I was kind of like, what? You don't think I'm that good? Like, I just don't want you to be highs and then the lows come. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to think about it. But I'm not, don't sign that paperwork. Don't do nothing yet. So then I, my agent that I signed with Vincent Taylor, I remember talking to him the most because he would just be like, look, you talented. It's up to you. He will always tell me it's up to you. You do. You

do what you want. I only get paid when you get paid. Everybody else was trying to tell me there's money, shit, but he was the only honest one. So I said, can you come to Central? Can you come to Missouri and meet me? Can we meet in person? He said, I'm on the plane. So he came over. We met in person, and he was

talking about the D1 bowl. I was saying, look, other agents tell me I shouldn't play in the D2 bowl because if I get hurt, I won't be able to play in the D1 bowl. He said, that is true. He said, I've been hearing noise about you getting into this D1 bowl, but they ain't, they ain't pulled the list, I said, so do you think I should play in the D2 bow?

He's like, no, I don't think you should. I think you're going to be in this D1 bow. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to run with that. I said, can you meet Willie Fritz? He said, oh, yeah, I'll definitely meet Willie. So him and Willie, him and Willie talks. He told Willie to leave. He pulled me in.

He said, I don't like that guy. I go, why? He's like, he's only about money. Look at him. He's flashy. He got a purple suit on. I'm like, yeah, I kind of like that suit. I kind of like.

I'm trying to get me one of them. Yeah, yeah. I kind of like that. I think he looked clean. He's like, no, you need to meet my guy. Don't sign with him until you meet my guy. I said, coach, just because you put me in this position, I'm going to meet your guy. I won't sign with him.

So I go out and go Vince. Stay here. I'm going to meet with his guy. Tomorrow, I'm going to make my decision. So we go to the steakhouse. Will he pay for all this stuff? His guy comes. Mine, his guy comes with Daisy Duke shorts on.

Flip, fly. Lops. Yeah. Like Delaney on a Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. I see him coming out. I'm like, that bet not be him.

This dude comes up to me. He comes up. I'm like, you're the age it? He's like, yeah, I'm the agent. I work with Rod Green and all these other people that Rod went to the NFL too. And I was like, oh, okay. He's like, look, man, you're not going to get in that D1 bowl. So you should have playing that D2 ball.

I'm telling you right now that I really told me you had buzz. There's no buzz going. on about you playing into D1 Bowl. I said, all right, that's, all right, we're done. I said, hey, we're done. Thanks for coming out. I'll leave. He calls with Willie, you know, what?

You disrespect my friend like that? I'm like, Willie, he told me I wasn't going to go to D1 Bowl. He said I wasn't going to get drafted. Like, if you don't, if he don't believe in me, I don't believe in him. Well, why would he talk to you if he doesn't think you're going to go any, like. That's what I said. He told me I wasn't going to get drafted. He said, I'm probably going to fall as a free agent, and I wasn't.

And there's no buzz about me going to the D1 bus. So I said, okay, thank you. I said, thank you. That's all I needed to hear. He was the only agent that kind of came at me. I'm nervous to hear how this ends. Yeah. Yeah.

So then I really get at me, boom, boom. I go to Vince's hotel. I'm like, where the paperwork? I'm about to sign with you today. Like, I'm done with this shit. He's like, what happened? I'm like, it don't even matter. You know what I'm saying?

It don't matter. Let's go. So I signed with him. He leaves. I tell Coach H first. I go like Coach H. I sign with Vincent. He goes, I like Vincent.

Because I even had Coach H meet him. And he was like, I like Vincent. Vincent was a good guy. So then he goes, you need to tell Willie, though. I go, man, I'm scared to tell Willie. I've been freaking out, bro. I was scared. Just like pacing around the phone.

He was like, don't call him. Go to his office. I'm like, God. Hey, bro, I'm scared. That's what I'm scared. But holy shit. Yeah. I was shook.

I was shook because after what I did to his friend too, I'm fucking shook. So I'm like, long-source show, I'm like, all right, I'm doing it. I don't care, man. It is. I'm a senior, I'm done. Like, I go up in there, he's waiting. Come on.

I start sweating instantly. You wearing the purple suit? You wearing the purple suit going in there? I look, the boy was sweating. As soon as he did like this, I come through the door, he like, I'm sweating. Go ahead and confident as soon as he does that. Ah, shit.

I'm like, damn, he just, he ripped me a new one, like how disrespectful am I to do his friend like that? I brought you here, I put you in this situation, and now you're about to sign with this guy. I'm telling you right now, this dude is gonna end, he gonna mess up your career, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-all. I'm like, yes, sir, I hear you. Like, I always respect, I never, I'm like, yes, sir, you right.

That's something I'm gonna have to deal with if it happens. Right. You're like, okay, well, I'm telling you. He's like, you better not leave school, you better finish. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna finish. So after that conversation,

I go back to the house and I'm telling all my roommates like, man, he's like, I need to finish this and that. But Vince was already telling me he about to fly me to Houston and start training. So I was like, I don't even know how to say this. And they was like, you should just go to Houston. Like all my roommates, like, fuck,

don't even tell Willie, like, just leave. So if he see this. So then Vince was like, with how you feel you want to finish school or you want to go train because like you i feel like you need to train you about to play against d1 players and i'm like i rather go train so then i moved to houston and uh start training at plex for eight months and yeah yeah i was living in houston not going to school i was just training and uh they sent my mom a bill central missouri state did but but they they took it back though after i after my agent and their lawyers got

They took that shit back, but they sent my mom a bill. My mom got a bill for like 300-something thousand. Like, what is this? Holy shit. I'm like, what you mean? She's like, Central Missouri just sent me a bill for 300,000. I said, I went to school for free. She said, I know, what is this bill?

I'm like, hold on, send it to me. I got my agent Vincent on it. He's like, oh, hell, no, that's not about to happen. And they pulled it back, said it was a mistake. They made a mistake that wasn't supposed to being sent out to them. It was supposed to be picked up by the minimum. they was going to pay for it, but somehow it got sent to my mom. And that pissed me off.

I'm not even going to lie, that pissed me off. And for the first few years, I didn't say even, I wouldn't say Central, even on Monday night games. I wouldn't even be like, oh, Central Missouri State Mules. Like, I would never. I was just like Pomona High School, you know, because that's, I feel like they did me wrong. But again, you know, like, I did them wrong. Like, it was vice versa. Like, he told me to stay in school and I did it.

Right. But that's tough. I needed to train, though. Like, I was training with all D1 players once I went to Plex. I was around all these top athletes and I was keeping up with them. So I'm, like, getting confident. Like, oh, this ain't, this ain't nothing. I'm about to shine, you know what I mean?

So then I play in that D1 bowl game, guess who the head coach, Jim Harbaugh. Damn. Yeah. So, man, so Jim Harbaugh, the head coach, he loves me. He's like, you do everything. I was doing everything with him. And he was just like, dude, you should get drafted. Like, he would tell me that, like, you can play multiple positions.

They had me at running back, tight-in, receiver, all that. And so then I go to the combine. I got invited to the combine after that bowl because I put on, I play. They was like, who the hell is this Delaney Walker coming out of nowhere? Making catches, making plays, I get invited to the combine. What's the feeling like when you finally get that invite? And you're like, all the shit you've gone through. through whether it's self-inflicted or like battling with coaches and just like the

adversity. What's that feeling where you're just like, like, I have an opportunity to go to the show. No, it was like better than sex. Oh, you know what I'm saying? That's huge. Well said. Yeah. It was like, yeah, because, you know, that feeling that sex is the best feeling in the

world. But this feeling that I got knowing that because my, Vince was, hey, you put it in the work, it's going to all come to you. Because when he, I'll be like, man, I don't want to go to Houston and train. Like, trust me, you put in the work, it's going to come. And I remember when he hit me like, there you go on to the combat. Look, I'm getting goosebumps on my legs already. Like, I'm like, what?

He's like, you made it. I'm like, I'm tearing up. You know what I'm saying? I'm on the phone tearing up. Like, I can't believe it. Man, I can't believe you was right. He's like, no, it was all you. It wasn't me.

I ain't do nothing. You did that. And I just, just, like, chill. Like, I'm like, God damn, I fucking made it. You know what I'm saying? I'm crying. I'm telling myself, like, I made it. And then I call my mom.

Like, mom, I'm going to the combine. I'm going to be on TV. She's like, what, you made it? I'm like, I made it. I'm going, this is my opportunity. I'm going to take advantage of I'm getting drafted. And I just kept saying it like, I'm getting drafted. This is.

Locked in now. Yeah, they put me in. They made a mistake. Now I got to show up. And the journey just, you know, the journey, talk it came you know it came and uh i've rolled that thing boy i rode that that that must thing like i ain't letting go you know what i'm 14 years when you went to the combine was you just got fired a receiver at this time yes so what what point did you transition receiver

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So like when I got to the combine, we had a trainer named Danny Arnold. Danny Arnold at the time was one of the best trainers in football. He goes, you may be a receiver, but I think you may play tight in. How big were you at this time? 220. So like 6-2-2-2020? Yeah. And he goes, I think they may put you at tight-in.

I go, man, why you think that? He's like, I just hear it's a lot of noise about you playing tight-in. So he was putting me through the ranger of like working out. About the time I get to the combine, I'm 235. 15 pounds. Yeah, I'm in there. Because he was like, you could either be a David Boston or you're going to be a tight-in. That's what he used to call me all the time.

David Boston. You David Boston. He used to say that. David Boston. I'm like, I don't take steroids. I'm trying to be David Boston. I don't do that But so he was saying that

And then I get drafted as a receiver with the 49ers Because it was all through They told me it was all because of my 40 time My 40 time was good So they drafted me What was it 40 time? 447 or 449 Type shit

Get Rick Mitch So and then I get to the 49ers We two, three weeks in I'm playing receiver I'm wearing number 17 we had Mike Martz as an offensive coordinator and I was with Mike Nolan as it.

17. Yeah, I was wearing 17. Close. Yeah, 17 to 46. Yeah, so 17, right? And then I go in the locker room. I come in, so I go home. We come in the next day.

I used to get there early because they wanted me to do a workout and stuff early. You know, rookies got, I get there and I'm like, damn, they move my jersey. They move my locker because I see 46. I'm like, damn, they moved my locker. And they're like, no, no, no. You, you're 46.

You need to get your playbook and go see Mike Martz. I'm like, for what? I'm getting cut. They're like, no, no, you're not getting cut. Go, just go talk to him. So I go up there. He's like, I know you saw the jersey. I was like, yeah, I don't really like that number.

He's like, I don't know. Go from 17 and 46. That's like, I'm getting cut. Yeah. I got about one more week left. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm getting cut. Like, that's all I was thinking in my head. You were right, man.

I'm sorry. I should have finished school. Yeah, so I was like, Jesus Christ, I said, I don't really like that number. Like, I literally, because I'm thinking, he was cool. Like, March was cool, but he wasn't cool right now. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I was like, oh, damn, my bad. Oh, shit, oh, we're not cool right now.

He's like, no, we're moving you to tight end. The H-back, you ever heard of it? I said, no, I never heard of it. He said, well, you better learn. We're going to cut your eyes. All right, go. Fuck. 46 it is.

Just like that cold. I'm like, oh, he's not joking. Okay. Because he was joking. He used to joke a lot when I first got there, but now he's not being sick. So as soon as I get out, I get on the phone, then, so I'm about to get cut. You got to start looking for another team. He like, what do you mean?

I was like, they just moved me to tight end. He goes, okay. I go, I can't play tight end. He said, Dee, I ain't never seen you fold for anything. You're going to fold today over a number? over the position chain. I said, man, I never played the position. I said they got Vernon Davis.

Like, you have seen this guy? He's like 6'3, 270 pounds. Like, I can't do what he's doing. He was like, I've never seen you quit on anything. Show me, show them who the fuck you are. I said, you know what, Vince? You're right. I'm going to go out there.

I'm going to be the best non-blocking tight end I can be. Because I didn't know how to block. Right. So I get out there. I'm getting cussed out like a dog, bro. I'm missing every play. I'm stepping the wrong.

Oh, yeah, stepping the wrong way. One game, they put me in the game. I can't even believe it, right? They put me in a game that year for my rookie year. As a lead blocker, I go the wrong way.

You hear Frank Gore. What the hell are you doing? As he's getting the ball. Because I ran the wrong way. Frank Gore is screaming at me during the play. Because I'm going that way. I'm supposed to go that way because I ain't know what the hell. I had. They threw me in a game. I don't even think I practiced this play one time. I'm like,

what? You didn't want to ask me, which way do I go? Nah. Jim Harbaugh said, who's got it better than us? Whoever Delaney's supposed to be blocked. But was Harbaugh, was the head coach your rookie year? No, no, it was Mike Nolan was the head coach my rookie year. Mike Morris was the office coordinator. And I don't know why they threw me in on the offensive play because I only played special teams, really. And for some reason, like I was standing there to Pete Hainter was my coach, position coach. He'd go, you win. I'm like me.

I'm literally like me. He's like, get the hell in there. I'm like, oh, run in. Oh, shit. I'm like, I hear the play. I'm like, oh, shit. That's got to be the scary shit ever, bro. The whole stadium is just so loud.

You're just like, is this going to be it, right? Yeah. Was it out of? No idea. No idea. No idea. No idea. No ideas, too.

you're like, I don't want to be that guy. I didn't want to be that guy just getting to play. First time. You got to at least guess. Alex Smith? No, it was Alex Smith. And then you have a legend like Frank Gore, just like yelling at you midplay. I'm like, oh, shit.

Like, so I go to the right, which I was already messed up. I was supposed to go to the left and motion to the right. But I went to the right. Motion to the left. He probably, he probably, when he saw me on that side, he probably was like, okay, the clock must be down. Why is he over there? But once I motion, I hear him go. I hear him say something like that

I look back and I look back and Hutt, he snapped the ball. I didn't block nobody neither because it was nobody to block. This might be easier than I'm doing. Yeah, the lady thought he was getting the ball. I kind of ran my hands up. They like, why the fuck you throwing your hands up?

You ran the road. They pull you out right after that. Oh, it pulled me out. Is that the only play you played in the offense? The whole time, that whole game. You're 46 or you're 47. I was like, oh, I'm getting cut. I'm gonna get cut after this game

but I remember my tight-in coach said you lucky you're a hell of a special team player because they did I was telling them to get rid of you like even if you're like your rookie year do you think that for it's like all that bullshit that you had to like endure through college

and him like frying you in front of the team like almost set you up for success because like every NFL coach is going to dog cuss you if you mess up so like in a way did it ever kind of be like damn like maybe like he was a great coach for me. No, he was a great coach for me. He was on some NFL shit.

He normalized me from being like bothered by getting cussed the fuck out. Like, because at first I used to get mad when he cussed me out. But then it started to just be like, okay, it's normal. He's just cussing me out. So then when they got to the NFL and the coach cussed me out, I just be like, well, he cussing me out. It's a good thing.

You know what I'm saying? That's not what I started thinking. Like, well, he won't me here because he cussing me out. Like if I can't put you in the game because you don't know what you? Like they would always. say that like my first year we can't put you in if you don't know what the hell you doing and I just spoke back one time like man give me some reps then you know what I'm saying and that he was kind of like you want reps all right we'll get you fucking reps and that's that's how I started

who would you say was like your best your most influential role model through like coach wise oh Pete Hainer oh my god be Aner turned me into this dog I was not I was not I was I was a receiver. I was a pussy foot receiver. I, like, I would break tackles and step on people,

but I would never go stick my head in there. No, I would worry about getting my toes stepped on, like hurting my hands. I was like a pretty boy receiver at the time.

And so, becoming a tight end, I would be blocking on my tippy toe. He'd be like, right, you're scared to get your feet stepped on? Like, I'll step on your feet right now.

Like, stuff like that. I'm like, what the hell? And he just, he would just make us, he made us dogs. Like he, he just was like,

we're gonna hit. I don't care, we're hitting every day. So we'll come out hitting just each other. Just, because he was like, y'all gonna be tough. One thing we're gonna be

is the toughest dudes on this team. And Pete Hanner was that guy. He taught me how to play the position. He taught me how to be good at the position. He just was a great coach. You talked about when you got drafted there and then they moved you to tight end, like Vernon Davis being there.

And like, obviously we all know how. tight you were with Vern, but is there any like Vern stories you can share that, like you're able to share that it won't. Like you said, man, Vernon was like,

like that. We was, that was my dog. Like, honestly, people thought I was like his homie. They didn't think I played for the tighties. Your stories you tell is Vernon.

Yeah, they thought like I was the homie because like somebody tried to press Vernon. You know what I'm saying? I'll run over. over there and just start fighting him. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Because my dog was like, like, Vernon will be like, we'll play a game. Say we just play it at the candlestick and he'd be like, bro, you wanna go to Vegas? I'm like, right now, you're like, yeah, I got a private jet, let's go. Don't bring no clothes, I'm gonna buy them for you. I'm like, what?

Like, yeah, I'm gonna get all your shit, don't worry, let's go. And we'll go to Vegas, turn up. He'd get a big old villa, you know what I'm saying? We're packing that thing out. I mean, packing it out. and uh clothes my dog did a lot you know my dog would do all type of stuff but a story if i can tell a story um man we didn't that we actually really didn't do that much out there yeah we used like verny you know he's with his situation i'd never want to mess up what he got

going on with his fiance and stuff so like all everything we ever done was epic you know what I mean it was we had fun was epic like vernon was being Vernon was like I know I wasn't his brother I can never take his brother's spot because him and Vante was like that too but like at that point we was like bros like we did everything together I mean everything he gave you car right to drive around and oh yeah he'll let me drive his cars but we had a we had a white home boy named Brandon and he can probably see this because he followed our content. Yeah, and he gave Brandon a Hellcat Challenger.

Damn. Just getting it. Yeah. Hellcat Challenger. Like, I wanted it. I wanted that car. Like, he gave it to Brandon. Is there a moment you're running around with Vernon where you're like, damn, like, I'm so glad I'm a tight in.

Yeah. No, every time we went out to like food, bottles, whatever, he paid. paid for it. So I was like, damn, I'm thankful. You know what I'm saying? I'm thankful that I walked in his room with him. But the first time I met Vernon, he didn't know how to deal with me because y'all know I'm kind of crazy. You know what I'm saying? So like the first time I meet Vernon, he shakes my hand, but he damn there break my fucking fingers, right? And I'm like, damn, cuss, don't ever shake my hand like that. Jokingly with him. He looked at me like, what the hell? I'm like, nah, I'm fucking with you big dog. Like, you know.

Don't shake my hand. Yeah. But then I was like, yo, for real, don't do that again, though, bro like you're because he caught my fingers and he squeezed them i'm like he's making sure you don't take his spot yeah i'm like damn bro don't ever i'm like i'm like c don't ever squeeze my he like what i'm like bro i'm fucking with you but no but don't ever do that shit again i mean that just kind of goes the show like because he's he went to maryland but is he from the east coast yeah he's from dc but it's just like you being from l a it's like that's just the melting part of the the NFL man okay i'm gonna get y'all story because i don't even care fucking it is what it is Okay, so Vernon used to have...

This is the one when you went to the gay party, right? No. I have fun at that party. No. No. I wasn't with Bernie. So Bernie used to have the Burning David weekend in D.C. And I mean like these parties.

Blowouts. Crazy. So like, Bernie used to have, he would rent out the whole hotel for all the athletes, all the friends and stuff. And downstairs, it would be like 50 girls waiting in the lobby for whoever. I mean, like, I'm going to say this happened in like 2008, y'all, 2009. So even a long time ago. Long time ago. Long time ago.

And, you know, you take a girl up. So we all had two rooms. Two rooms. All has crazy. Hotel was in half capacity sold out. Yeah. We all got two rooms. Go up.

You take the one you've been chilling with all through the half the day. Knock her down. Go downstairs. Find that other one you've been talking to. Take them upstairs. I mean, I thought I ain't gonna care. I almost moved to D.C. This was.

Got up your agent. I need a trade. I'm like, hey, no, I'm like, Vernon, where should I get a house at? He's like, don't move here. I'm like, you sure? He's like, don't do it. Because Vernon weekends was the best weekends. I've never seen, I've never been a part of anything like that other than his weekends.

And I'm talking about every year. every year cats walking butt-ass naked in the hallways not me not me i don't get down like that but some cats do you know i'm talking about you come out they just walking butt-necked to the to the other room you're like what the no welcome to dc chocolate city is that what they're calling it that's what they call it chocolate city yeah i feel like we're kind of like skipping ahead but i mean you had you have such a long career We have to. We obviously have to get a little Titan suck in. When you got traded to the Titans, what would your initial thoughts?

I knew Chris Johnson. So when I got traded to the Titans, I'm like, so the only thing I remember about the Titans, they came to San Francisco and beat our ass. Chris Johnson, yeah, Chris Johnson went nuts and Randy Moss. I don't even know. He had a field day that game with Collins. Y'all had Collins at quarterback. Carrie Collins.

So I'm like, future friend of the show. Yeah, I'm like, Okay, the Titans, I'm going to the Titans. I didn't care. I didn't say nothing about their record. And I'm like, Chris Johnson. That's all I was like, they got Chris Johnson. We about to be cold in the motherfucker.

But then I got here. Ken. Who was Ken? It was, no, it was Munchek. Muncheon. So I got here and I realized it was de-organized. Like, it was like going on. on that.

A lot of people don't see because you outside looking in, but it was... The facilities going from San Francisco to Nashville. Oh, it was night and day. I mean, we didn't have a... We didn't have a cold plunge. They didn't have a hot tub.

What year did you come to the Titans? 2013. So we were a team for 15 years? They didn't have none of that. The facilities were... It's like a YMCA locker room. Not even. Yeah, not even.

He's got a hot tub. And they was making the food outside. We didn't even have a kitchen. Or they was bringing it in. That's the grill going. Yeah, it was, it was, wow. I was eating McDonald's. I was eating McDonald's the first year.

I would go to get McDonald's every day at lunch. Big Macs? Big Macs. Double cheeseburgers. We have macs sauce, no pickles. Come on. Damn. So like, it was, it was, it was bad, but they were growing.

And that's why our record showed the way it showed, because it was just like, you know, Um, Mr. Adams, he was, you know, he was older. He was getting old. He was to that point where, you know, he really didn't do day-to-day activities with the football team. I didn't, I only met him once, you know, when I first got, I only met him once. And this is what he said when we met him at the game. We lost.

I think to the Jaguars, he come in, he goes, if we had a quarterback, we would have won that game. With the quarterback. With the quarterback sitting right there in his face. I said, oh, shit. I said, this owner crazy. And then they ran them up out of there, you know what I'm saying? They got him, took him out. And then people was like, man, he's seen now.

You know, and I'm like, I mean, he was telling the truth. What wrong? He was true. He was telling the truth. He made me see now because he's saying stuff he shouldn't be saying right in the player's face. But he was telling the truth, though, you know what I'm saying? You know how old people, they can't. It's like old people and little kids.

They just say the truth. They just say the truth. It don't matter who it hurts. He just said it. And they was like, that's the owner. I said, okay. That's what's up. And a few years later, he passed away.

But coming here, I really didn't have no thought. I just knew that it was a new opportunity for me to be good. And then we had Chris Johnson. Like in my mind, I'm like with Chris Johnson, I ain't got a block long. You know what I'm saying? So I was kind of thankful. to have Chris Johnson on our team. And obviously, you know, it didn't work out the first few years for us,

but, you know, it started to develop. I feel like for your personal career just as, like, a fan watching, like, there has to be something to say, like, it was huge for you because you became a star in a low market city. Even though it wasn't the 49ers and playing with, like, all those guys, like, you grew such a, like, name for yourself. And, like, to this day, they're a lifelong Titans fans that, like, or like if we could just have a Delaney Walker

Stillback plan. And that's that says something which is I mean it fires me up like sitting here interviewing you when like I'm in the stadium in like 2013, 2014 coming home from like college on like a random weekend and I'm like you know I mean at least we got like a couple

dogs. That shit's cool and like sitting here it's like damn this crazy So you got here in 2013 when did Marcus get here? 2016? 16? 15 because he was right after After Taylor got here?

Yes. Started stacking. We started stacking because you got to think about it like, Rustin was our GM at first. But Rustin was so used to having, oh, buddy, who went to the Rams. Why can't, why is his name? He's a coach or? Coach.

He went to the Rams. Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher. There you go. So they were so used to have. St. Louis Rams. Yeah, the St. Louis Rams. So they were so used to having Jeff Fisher and his.

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If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk. Listen to Crime List on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Mindset, because Jeff Fisher was the, he was the mastermind of the Titans being successful. We all can say that. Good coach. Great coach. I'm sure he was the one saying what players were going to pick because he's that kind of coach that's going to control the narrative, right? But then you get Munchek, Rustin, and then Wizzing Hunt, Rustin.

Rustin Like The picks we were bringing in You know They were yeah They were tanking You know what I mean It wasn't it didn't look good

You know for the organization And then like We rustin get fired They hire Um Y'all know who Y'all know who the next gym was Robinson Robinson

I don't know why they're slipping my mind right now So we hired Robinson Robinson comes in with this resume Of like knowing how to find So he has Wizzinghunt, Mike Mularky, Mike, right? If you look at those three years, look at the draft picks we had. It shows who was really in control of the draft picks at that time because we were stinking it up. We was bringing cats in and it was like, why the hell.

Well, who is this dude? Like, where did he come from? And then it went to Marcus Marriota. Derek Henry, Taylor, Taylor, Taylor, LeWan. I mean, the list goes on of cats who was putting in work on the team, and then it's just, we start getting better.

You know what I'm saying? But now we're having that law again where we drafting cats. They ain't doing nothing. Jack has the thousand yards stair going as you're talking about. Wait, hold on you're saying right now, or after that J-Rob period, it started doing that again?

They started doing that. J-Rob period, it started doing that again. It was like, let's get seat fillers instead of opportunist players. You know what I mean? These cats come in and be like, I'm here. I'm good. Just happy to be in the league. I'm just happy to be here.

You know what I mean? I'm happy to be here instead of those dogs, you know what I mean? Because if you look at Jeff, Jeff was Robinson. Yeah. People kind of forget that. It was a 2019. Yes. Yeah.

That was the dropped here. Yeah, people forget that. I'm like, that was Robinson. Like, everything after Jeff. Yeah. In comparison, he did have a better. Jeff and AJ in the same draft. And AJ.

And AJ. The AJ trade is truly the only thing that ruined him. I know. That's what got on fire. One bad decision. What, going back a little bit, like when Marcus got there, obviously he was, what, number two pick behind James, that first game against the bucks, he went crazy. Went crazy.

Were you like, oh shit. Like, this is the dude. Like, Marcus is for real? Yeah. Like, what was your relationship like with Marcus? I mean, obviously, you were his only target for a very long time. When Marcus first got there, I love Marcus because he was the type of player, like, he don't say much, right?

But he'd take the blame. He'll go out there, throw for 300 some yards. We lose. It's his fault, right? I could have play better. I could have played better. I could have played better. But they didn't tell you, they didn't tell you, this dude dropped five passes.

That dude fumbled the ball. And it would be like a trickle effect, but it always came back to Marcus. Because Marcus is going there, be like, it's my fault. If I were to do for 400 yards, maybe we wouldn't want. You know, it was one pass I should have thought about. I shouldn't have thrown it. You know, and then he'd take that blame. So I loved him because he never blamed nobody.

He always was like, I got to be better. You know what I mean? And I looked at it as this is a guy who's going to die for you. No matter what he can. And he knows it's your fault, but he's going to go in that room and go, that was my fault. It was a bad pass. If I would have put it on the money, he probably would have caught it. He always did that.

And I loved him for that. But he came into a organization where they are hard on quarterbacks. They're really, really hard on quarterbacks because we had great ones, played for the Titans and the Oilers. So anytime that person, that quarterback is not playing at that level that they feel he should be playing. It always goes back to that. It always goes back. That's why he's still on the stadium.

That's why the players that people compare everyone to, they still on the stadium. But all the other players, not. But those two players, right? And you're going to get compared to them every time. See, Derek Henry, he held that stigma. So no one ever said that nothing about Derek being as good as George because he was. but now, oh, we need an Eddie George. Right.

You know, we need a McNair. But, I mean, Cam Ward is doing this, but he has no help at all. So, like, we put our quarterbacks in a blender because they get beat the fuck up. I don't know. Y'all, have y'all seeing what I see? Them and Joe Burrow. Running for their life. It's tight quarterbacks and Joe Burrow.

Run for their life. Taking injuries, they shouldn't be taking injuries. Look at the injuries. Joe Burrow has took in. Look at the injuries. Marcus has took in. Ryan Tannenhill. Will Levis.

Will Levis. He was never the problem. But we, and then they get, they all play great. And then they start getting beat up, beat up. And they're like, oh, we got to get rid of them. They suck. No, they're good. They're real good.

It's just things around them is not playing to the same level. Yeah. But I love Marcus, man. Yeah, I love Marcus. He was a dog. Ryan Tannenhill was. was a dog, I mean, Jesus Christ. I play with some good quarterbacks on the titan.

They may not get the recognition that they deserve, but do. Good running backs. They are today. They are today. So in the grand scheme of it all, between 49ers and Titans, can you pinpoint a singular game that you're like, this was my favorite NFL game ever? Yeah, I definitely can. It was the 49ers versus the Lions.

We were 4-1, the lines were 5-0 They had Megatron And that's a effort They had some dogs over there I mean, dogs bandabash Oh my, he used to wear the red contact lens That shit used to creep me out all the time Sue maybe even

Sue? Yeah, Sue was there I wham-blocked them like four times You all was his home game, we got in four field It was a M-4 field We five and one they five and a I mean we're four in one they was five and no and uh it came down to the wire I have ran a slant they scored a winning touchdown in that game I still talk about that because that game I was playing phenomenal I mean I probably had like five special teams

tackles I wham sued like five times and we broke for big runs and then it came all down to me to score the touchdown and I and they never really threw me the ball for them to trust me on that play. That feeling has to be insane. Yeah, it changed everything. It changed every day. We went on the Super Bowl run and I got, you know, like I said, I was a free agent and got paid. All that, that right there opened the door for me because they trusted me. They start putting me on more plays, more things. But then Jim Harbaugh did what he did at the end of the game. And I was like, that's my dog. Yeah, yeah. Oh, is that the famous like, stags lap? Yeah. And he chased him down.

Then he chased it down. We all was about to rumble all the way into the locker room. The whole team. We all like squaring up. Police come. And I won that game. You know what I said? So it's like I always, anytime people tell I'm like, I mean, I don't have some hell

of games with the Titans, but that was probably the biggest. It took that next step. Yeah, for me. You know what I mean? And for them to trust me because like I said, we have Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Moss, Mario Manningham, Frank Gore. I mean, any one of those dudes, they could. It happens ever.

What? Your relationship with Jim Harbaal, when he became the coach of the 49ers, you were already there, correct? Yes. That first time y'all saw each other after him being your coach at that D1 bowl, or is it just like, holy shit, look where we are? No, he was like, when I saw you was on the roster, I was like, we know we got a player. That's all he said.

Like, we know we got a player. He's the best, dude. He's like, I'll put this motherfucker everywhere, and he did. That's why I became to Swiss Army night. Because he's son as he seems like, oh, we got a plan for you. I said, oh, yeah. I'm about to play more. What was it like when he, like, because y'all obviously weren't winning, so you got to make the coaching change.

Like, when he came in, like, how instant did, like, the mood and the locker room shift, like, just in the organization? Because, I mean, y'all won, like, instantly when he got there. Well, so what Jim Harbo got there and the way he made us work, people was mad. Because he came on right after that lockout year. So we come back in and we're going to work. Cats was, yeah, oh, we got to give you this dude. I don't know about this dude. I don't know about this dude.

Like, Katz, that was the ring around the locker. So it got back to him somehow. I don't know, you know, you always got a snitch in the locker room. That's just part of the game. That's anywhere you go. It gets back to him. He goes, we bring up practice. I mean, we just busted our ass at practice, too.

This was a long, crazy practice. And he goes, we have snakes on this team. We're like, what the hell? He just brings us up like, we got snakes on this team. He's like, you know how you get rid of snakes? Cut the grass. Burn the grass.

Oh, damn. That's what he said. He said, you burn the grass. He said, he said, about a few weeks, that person that's next to you right now, he may not be next to you next week. And you'll know who. And we're like, oh, shit.

shit. Every week. Cut. Cut. Bring somebody in. Cut. Bring somebody in. Cut. Bring somebody in. He's like, you see all the people that got cut? They wasn't right for this team. But everybody who came here that we brought in, they're going to put work on for this team. They may be starting.

I don't get fucking. How much money you make, who you are, where you get drafted at, the best player are going to play. I'm sitting there like, God damn, thank God. Thank God, it's my turn. There's nothing better than a good leader. Yeah, I'm like, thank God, because I'm busting my ass, and I'm not seeing the field.

He comes in, it's like, I don't care who it is. And I remember he was like you, but he made me work a lot. I had to learn everything the quarterbacks learned because I was the audible shift guy, move guy. And I loved it, though, because he gave me a lot of responsibility. But a lot of dudes will tell you they hate Jim Harbaugh. because he make us work. You know what I'm saying?

Like one time, remember back in the day, NFL was big on when we had real two days. They were big on like taking players on like field trips. Like you go to a water park, movie theater, something like that. So one day we thinking we about to get a bone because he's like, man, if y'all have a good practice,

I'm going to give y'all a bone. I'm going to give y'all a good bone. Y'all going to love this bone. We like, ugh. A lot of bony going on. A lot of bony going on. So we all like, okay. And then hell of a practice.

He called us up, man, that was one of the great practice. Oh, y'all gonna love this bone tomorrow. So we, like, all excited. Like, where are we going? Everybody, like, where are we going to go, man? We all think he's going to take us. He probably going to take us to some war reenactment shit. You know what I'm saying?

That's where your love came from. Yeah, I know. That's what he big on, too. So we get there and we had the dress of the day. He used to put it on the board, like the dress of the day. We like, oh, shit, fool packs. Where the bone at? We thought it was going to be like no practice.

It's a full pass. So everybody talking like full fucking pads. Where the bone at? They're like, oh, we're probably going to practice like 30, 40 minutes. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's cool. That's even cool. We get outside. He's like, hey, bring it up because usually we stretch.

So Jim Harbaugh let you stretch on your own for 15 minutes. And then he blow the whistle and we start practice. So he, we ain't straight. He just blow us up. We like, oh, yeah, he tricked us because he liked that. Like, oh, yeah, y'all go change. He goes, he go, you want to tell y'all something. We go, yeah, he goes, Seattle right now, they're at the water park.

They go, Arizona right now, they did, they had like a softball baseball game. They might still be there. Yeah, he's going through all our teams in our division. He go, but you know what the 49ers are going to do? We like, what, coach? We all excited. Where are we going, coach? What are we going to, coach?

Yeah, coach, what are we going to do? He's like, we're going to get these 70 plays. Let's go. Moral just killed. Oh, my. I don't work anymore, coach. He said it like that, it did. Took off running to another kill.

That's crazy. That may have been the worst practice we ever. Horrible. The worst practice. Yeah. Did he ever take you anywhere ever? Yeah, he did. He took us somewhere.

So after that, I think I want to say two practices after that, took us to the movies. We watched it was an Army movie. At that time maybe like saving Private Ryan, it could be... I was going to say Fury. No, was it 30 nights, 30 days? What was it? Zero dark 30. Zero

30, yeah. Yeah, we see zero dark 30 because he was really big into the military. We even had the president general like military do come and speak to us He was big on that. So, like, we went to watch the Army movie. And then that message was like, you see how they never gave up?

When they backs was against the wall, they kept fighting. That's such a football coach. We got 70 more plays after the movie. Get your pads on. He's like, you see how they never gave up? He's like, we're going to be those guys because I know we're going to be down in the first quarter. We're going to be down in the second quarter. But who the hell we're going to be in the third quarter?

And how will we finish the fourth quarter? I'm like, God, damn. War-load. That's what I'm talking about. Like, yeah. And if you watch all our games, we be losing in the first half. But then the second half, we come back. We was the comeback kids.

Everybody knew that. We'd come back and just beat your ass. We just out physical you. And he knew that. I guess he felt it. So he wanted us to see, like, when they was down on they look, and they thought, you all thought they was going to die because it was just too many affies coming after them,

every angle, you know what I'm saying? They locked and loaded. They got their game plan. And AJ, look, we're going to die doing it. We either going to die killing them. Are we going to walk away from this? You know? Yeah, we die.

We die. And that's really what they did. They went out there and was like, look, let's get it. So we all had that mindset. And we was all on a pill program, you know. Talk about that later. So we were dogs, man. Dogs out there.

I think we're getting. our batteries running low and our audio thing so we got to how long we've been going hour 10 hour 16 it feels like we're going

for a minute bro this has been we really appreciate you coming on one and even though we've heard a lot of these stories over and over I feel like I heard a new piece

in every one of those stories where I was like damn there's so much more to every like story that you just for anyone's sake but man it means a lot like you are a guy and you've always showed so much love to us

so it's sick that You are the number 20th episode guest. I'm sure we'll have you back on it. We've only ever had for pro athlete guests, we've only ever had tight ends, tight ends from the Niners. True. No, you had grunk, didn't you? No, no.

We had, we just, we just, we just had, we just, we just had George and you. I thought that had grunt. I saw George, I thought you had gronk for sure, though. We got to get Vern. That'll happen. We'll get Vern, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, Vern, definitely. Burn

Byrne would love to come on here because he wanted to get his side of the story he's like, I got to get my side of the story. I'm like, all right. He won't 50 women. He left out of charity part. Good deal. Damn, you trying to sign us off, Coop?

I got to do this here where you mentioned. I brought us in. J.P., sign us off. I did that last week. Garrett, sign us off. Thank you all for listen to another episode of Inside the Bus, episode 20 with our guy,

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We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being an ass question. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

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