Bussin' With The Boys - Derwin James Explains What The Chargers Need To Do To Get Over The Hump & Why He Loves Playing Against Mahomes

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

Recorded: August 16th 2023 | We are double dipping this week boys and in this episode we bring you the best safety in all of football, Derwin James. Derwin came straight from practice to hop on with the boys but it wasn't long before the whole squad was laughing it up, talking crazy hypotheticals, and discussing the Chargers expectations for the season. Derwin also gives insight on what kind of taste the Jaguars game left in their mouths, how he failed at trying to get Phillip Rivers to cuss and why he loves playing against Patrick Mahomes. We definitely have to get Derwin on the bus in Nashville next offseason for a longer pod. Don't forget to subscribe!! 0:00 Intro 2:00 Good news and bad news 6:00 Addressing tweets about Chris Distefano podcast clip 10:20 DERWIN JAMES INTERVIEW STARTS 11:53 Dealing with injuries 14:15 New pro bowl rules 15:30 Taylor talking trash to the Chargers in London 21:00 Jaguars game + Playing w/ Philip Rivers 25:10 Derwin's nickname is Poo-Bear? 28:00 Committing to Florida State as a Freshman 35:23 WILD Hypothetical questions SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS CHEVY SILVERADO: Head to https://barstool.link/ChevyBarstool and check out Silverado and all the Chevy Trucks Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co/, enter your email, and redeem code BUSSIN for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). Georgia Boot: Use code BUSSIN for 20% Off at georgiaboots.comFor more, visit barstool.link/bussinwtbSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Boys. No, no, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do it like that. Welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. I am your host, Will Compton, the boy Tara Luan. He's out in Canada. We'll get to that in the second. What's imperative, what is important right now is to shout out the truck of the summer,

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from California. I'm sitting here. It's Tuesday. Fly got canceled on Sunday. Monday. I think she's getting the fly out now. She's going to land at like one in the morning tonight. But she isn't back yet from California from all the floods and the hurricanes going on there. The West Coast is in a blender. I heard there was an earthquake out there. The West Coast is in an absolute blender.

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I want to say we are a pro jersey, at least 50% of us is a pro jersey podcast. I am all about the jury. I'd say more than 50. More than 50. Yeah, I'm thinking the two, if you're splitting the two hosts down the middle, I know Taylor has had some takes before

and he's got a stance on this. it slipped in that Chris DiStefano interview. He's like, we have a thing. And when I was watching that clip the other day, I'm thinking, oh, fuck, I got looped into this thing. Like, that's not, that's not how I operate with the fans. I'm all about the verbal abuse that happens everywhere. I'm all about the venting. I'm all about yelling at the TV.

I'm all about living through your favorite teams, your favorite teams and favorite players. I'm also about wearing their jerseys. Now it makes me want to start buying jerseys up. We got to start, you know what I mean? We got to get, it almost makes you want to get involved. in the culture more because there is no football without the fans. I'm not doing that as a political take either. Like I love all of the fucking arguing the banter, the chat, the group chats, the talking shit. I love it all, dude. I'm all about it. So I just want to make that clear. The Stefano interview,

but I think, well, why didn't you say anything on the Stefano interview? That was our second interview that day. We were traveling all, like, we were traveling all week long as little, that interview was like a little, you know, it got long winded. It got a little, at that point, you're kind of just, you're kind of sitting there. You're glad Chris is doing. all the talk and you're glad he's funny and keeping you entertained and everything like that to where you're just kind of sitting back and letting it happen. And that was not a hill. Like we've had that conversation before on bus with the boys about the jerseys and everything else. That wasn't the timing where it was like, okay, we need to, we need to intervene here and step in. However,

all to say, what percentage? 85%? 85% pro jersey podcast over here. Yeah, maybe more. Maybe more. Maybe more. I know our fan base makes it like 90. We're 99% pro jersey on this podcast. I hate that the big guy can't be here because I'm sure he would interject and have a, and have a hopefully a new stance as well. But you kind of hate talking without the big guy here so we could go back and forth about it. However, I needed to make that fucking clear that we are your boy. We rock the jerseys. We rock the jerseys.

You also see the club got 3.3 million views. I know. That's what made me think like, oh, man, this is a little. 500 likes on Twitter, which they got a lot of hate. A lot of hate. Rightfully so, though. Yeah, we do love that. I even had a tweet that kind of popped on me.

You're talking about the L? Anybody who has this take is a walking L? And I was saying it not directing it, Taylor or Chris. I just, like, get hurt pretty much when Taylor says these things. Because he said it before. Like. That's what I'm saying. It's been a conversation before on the podcast.

Even when Tennessee beat Alabama, he was, like, tweeting at me, like, this guy thinks he he thinks he actually won the game. I'm like. I know. I'm not. The fans are just as crucial to the sport as the players. Obviously, that with a grain of salt there, but yeah, man, it's like, children can't even buy fucking jerseys. Like, how are they going to purchase a jersey?

They don't have the purchasing power. They ain't got the wallet suit. Yeah, the adult's got to be a consumer. Yeah, absolutely. 100% people are like, oh, Will CYA, he's covering his ass, doing damage control, everything like that. It was more so like, you know, when you get lumped, in based on somebody else saying something, you got to, you got to stand up and speak for yourself before you get lumped into this. You know what I mean? We're guilty, I'm guilty by association.

Who knows how much damage that clips done everywhere on all the platforms? I just had to, I just had to get out there on Twitter and be like, hey, I need to clear my name. Your boy is a pro. I'm all ball. I'm all fandom. I'm all all of it, dude. I've been obsessed with it since a wee little pup. Good news. This intro will be fast today. Derwin James sits with us. Derwin is fucking all time. If you don't know, who the guy is, you should know. One of the best safeties in the game was voted. The number 30 player overall in the NFL top 100

players. He was, we asked him about that. We asked him about being ranked the best safety in the NFL amongst the peers. Battling injuries. I know he tore his knee, right? He had a bad injury that he had to bounce back from. And you can just tell this guy he's a very focused player. He's very intentional with the way he moves

and everything else. And you're going to really like hearing from him. He doesn't do a whole lot of interviews. He's not out there a lot. their PR person was saying like, oh, it was really cool, how much he, he was opening it up and being himself and everything else. But we asked him about that. We asked him about those things. His defining play of his career, being a box safety versus coverage safety, his worst loss is we obviously had to dive into the wallcar last year. And the Jaguars came back down, what was it, 27-0?

28, 24-0. Go to the main thing. And then also his growth as a leader. I know he's, you can tell when you ask about that. eyes kind of like light up and you understand that he was a real again real intentional about how he was moving throughout that progress and making that growth and development as a leader and everything else and being the position he's in you can tell he loves playing uh for the chargers you can just tell like sitting with all those guys you can tell that these guys want to bring um you know

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I think Twitter comments are one YouTube comments are sneaking up there sneak up there I haven't been in the TikTok world a whole lot Are those fun? Are those fun? Are crazy? It's like you almost watch a video And then immediately go to comments Because you're either looking for someone to identify with

Or looking for a ridiculous statement We need to do a tear dark soon Best comments on the internet best comment platforms. That would be solid. But I do need to get a little bit more engaged with that TikTok. It does seem like there, that's a big one. There's a lot out there on TikTok.

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Like it's the best. But without further ado, Derwin James, subscribe to Bustin with the Boys, wherever you get your podcast, big hugs, tiny kisses. How you feel like your body, like your mentally, like how you feel different in a different space being lighter, 50 pounds. Yeah. Oh, like mentally, like, I look in the mirror and I don't hate what I see. That's mentally better. But like, from like a body standpoint, like besides my knee, like everything feels good. Yeah.

Like my neck wrist a little bit, but like getting up in the day, like you feel all that weight off your body. Oh, what's up, bro? It's tough. I can't wait to experience my first fall. Like, legit, like, even right now, August, like, flying out somewhere. It's just crazy to me. Yeah. And then October's going to hit.

Yeah. I'm going to be able to go do Halloween with my kids and rip around and not have to worry about who I'm playing or what does this guy's move do or anything like that. Yeah, man. It's just cool. Yeah, man. It's cool. Yeah, man.

For real. It's definitely when you're in it, you're just in it. But when you get to where, like, your weekends and everything else is free and you're not like, you know, when the boys would lose, you know, you got to go Monday and you're like fuck well you know what's what's the vibe going to be like today yeah and when all that performance based driven industry that we're in every day is done and over with you're kind of like fuck I mean wait a tomorrow go get go get something go get something to the coffee shop yeah live live awesome but even when you go through injuries like like I'm going to ask you about your

injuries in the beginning like you make a pro bowl your rookie year yeah and two years in row like you're injured in camp right yeah and that had to be like especially that early getting a proble, being like, oh, I'm the man already in the NFL, like a dream has been made. Yeah. And then you go into that, like, that second time getting hurt in camp, you had to be down something like, fuck. But it definitely was humbling experience. The first time I went down, it was kind of like, you know, it's part of the game, you know,

it comes with it. But then the second time, you know, a week away from the season, that one kind of hit me a little deeper. It was a little, you know, and then I realized I wouldn't be returning for the season again. I was just like, man, like, what do I have to do? Like, what am I doing wrong? I just go to question and stuff. But after all that, man, I locked in.

You know, like you said, get back to the basis, get back what you used to, getting routine and get ready to go, man. How is it like with the charges? We were kind of talking a little bit before on how they're kind of like, there's more youth than everything else. So it seems like they take care of you guys during training camp. Yeah, they're kind of some of the old school mentality ways that are out there. We definitely know our standard, man.

We work hard here and we get it in. And like I said, we compete at a high level. But we also got coaches that are young and they understand the bodies. you know, getting the guys to the games, and they understand how to take care of us here, and they do a great job of doing that, you know. And I feel like we're in a good space with that. He's extremely polished.

You're extremely polished. You can tell that you go up to podiums every day after games and have to talk to everybody and you know what to say and what not to say. No, man. I'm going to say what I say. No, I speak to your mind, but I know how to talk. It's hard, though, because when you're in it and you're like, all right, you go up to the podium,

you obviously have somebody coming to you and be like, okay. Like, this and this, don't talk about this. You don't want to give them anything. I'm sure you guys have, like, media rules and stuff like that. Yeah. And it is, you are very well spoken from that standpoint. For sure. How, uh, rank 30, top 100.

Congratulations. Minka Fitzpatrick was the only safety ranked ahead of you. How do you feel about where your ranking was in the top 100? I just got to get out there and work, man. I can't, you know, start up this argument. I got to get out there and work, man. I just got to work a little harder. And, like I said, make me.

How do you feel about it? Like when you see 30, are you like, hell, yeah? No, I'm like, hell, nah. Like, it's opposite for me. I'm like, no, I'm better than that. I know. I know I'm better than that. So I know I'm better than that. So you felt a little disrespectful. For sure, for sure. And that you're not the number one safety. Yeah, for sure. You are a beast. You are obese. You are a fucking stud, dude. What's your relationship like with Mika? Oh, we got a great relationship. You know, we always make a peeing with each other.

You know, coming out, 2015, we was in the same high school class. And then college, you know, of course, we was first. first round picks. And so we always been competing in our careers. You know, we got a great relationship. We talk at the pro bowls and, you know, the different stuff. But it's a good relationship. Talk at the Pro Bowls.

Yeah. That plural. Yeah. Speaking of Pro Bowl, dude, do you ever feel like, do you like the fact that there's not a game anymore? Or do you wish it went back to a game? No, I kind of liked the deformant they had last year. Really? For our bodies.

I feel like it was solid. I mean, we had more fun with it, you know. Vegas. I feel like, you haven't been in the Pro Bowls. I've met with you a couple of one or two times. But I was like, you don't really know what the tempo was. You don't want to kind of hit the guy too hard. You don't really know what to do.

You feel what I mean? So it's like, it's better that, you know, we can still have fun and then give the fans what they want to see too. In the game, if you had the opportunity to tee off on a punter the way Sean Taylor did in a pro bowl, would you have done it? Definitely, definitely, for sure. No, you're lying. For sure, I would.

You would do that? I would. Come on, man. That punter got so mad to it. Who was that punter? Do you know what was? Brian Mormon? I was still talking about this play 20 years later, you know what I mean?

10 years later. That is just crazy. You know what I mean? So you want something like that. I got to get them stable. What do you think is like the most defining, like, play of your career so far? That people might be talking about 10 years from now. Probably when I slam Kelsey.

Yeah. That's what I went to my head too. Yeah, yeah. So, but I got to just make some more plays, keep making plays and keep getting better, man. Is Kelsey a dude that, does he talk a lot of shit? No, he don't really talk trash. Well, probably other people, but he don't really talk trash like that. No.

Talks the most trash that you've come across. The most trash? Uh, I don't even. I don't really get people that talk trash really like that, like, to me. There's never been anybody you're like, man, why does this dude talking? Shit, you was talking trash in London news. It was fucking, hey, no, I remember. I remember, bro.

Oh, shit, yeah. When we played a job, he probably was the last person that was talking trash to us. Yeah, we were with your equipment guys earlier, and they were bringing that up, how I was talking the whole time. I'm like, Taylor, man, why are he talking so crazy to our whole team? Remember that, right? Yeah, I do. They reminded me of it because I probably wouldn't have. remember too much. I do.

I do talk a lot of shit or did. And fucking, yeah, I like that, though. You don't talk shit? I'd be talking trash, but, you know what I mean? You gotta be talking back to me like that. So I'm kind of talking to myself. You kind of view that as a, like, respect though, huh? Yeah, yeah.

Like, when you talk trash and people kind of just walk away, you're like, I'm really him. Yeah. That's got to be a hell of feeling. It'll be like a little respect. Yeah. What kind of badge of honor do you like more of being known for locking somebody up or being a heavy hitter.

I feel like heavy hitter because I'm a big person on style of play, stand the tone. And I feel like you can cover somebody. That don't really set no tone versus if you go hit somebody, now you got Tim O guys ready to go do the same thing. So, you know, I say definitely hitting. Dude, a safety that fucking hits. I know.

Buda Baker, Pam Chancellor. Yeah. Those type of dudes? Yeah, no guys right there. Man. Was Camston in the league when you got in? Did you play him? I didn't get to play with Cam.

It was one year before I got in. Man, when we played them, I remember walking past him being like, this dude's a fucking safety. He was so big. Massive. Massive. Dark visor on. Yeah. Fuck.

It was. Him out there, Ed Reed, Bobby Wagner, K.J. All that did. Boom. Yes. You just dream about being part of defenses like that, don't you? Yeah. Well, I mean, we were in Nebraska.

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What years were you at Florida State? From 15 to... What was your records out there? My first season, I think we lost. It was 9-2. And then the second season, we was... I mean, my last year was our worst year. I think we lost like four games, four or five games.

But, you know, it was kind of on the decline then. Yeah, I feel you. You were too young to be with James Winston, right? Yeah, one year before. What were the war? Like, there had to be war stories about him to walk around, bro. We were some good stories. You still those crab legs?

No, man. Come on. Y'all stop going that, man. Are y'all trying to do my school like that? No, come on, man. That man went to do not like that. He just borrowed him. No, man, come on.

He is the most unique personality in the NFL. Yeah, I feel like it's no one like James in the NFL. He got his own personality. He don't care of him. Nobody thinks of him. No. He's going to be who he is. Hypothetically, if you're getting ready for a game

and someone gets in the middle and they do a W with their hand and they start eating their fingers. How are you reacting? Does that get you fired the fuck up? Yeah, yeah. He's one of my guys. man, whatever he do.

Like, you feel, I'm ready to go through a wall for him, for sure, yeah. There is a part, too. I think there's an element. No, you feel like, you're, I see where you're going. I was just going to say, like, if you know somebody is unique in that nature to where it's like, you know, you're not funny. And you know where, like, being even more, it's almost like you're going to laugh at us and be, hell yeah. Yeah, let's go. Like, kind of support him on to do some more stuff.

Yeah, yeah, let's go. Man, I wonder who is going to come up with next week. Get out there. Give us a speech, man. Come on. You got to help. James doesn't know how funny he is. He's funny for sure. He's got to be one of those dudes that is just like, man. The crab leg thing I thought was so funny.

I don't really even know what even came with that. Nothing came of that, right? It was just like one of the little stories you hear. It was kind of like local news. There's old crab legs and that was it. I can't remember. What's it going to take for the charges to get over the hump? Man, just stay in hell.

I always feel like you guys get close. Staying healthy, man. All our guys being out there when it's time to play. I feel like when you got your main players out there who can make plays, that's what this league about, bro, having your guys out there healthy. And I feel like we just need to do that. And we'll be good. What's the locker room's mentality on a gentleman name, Emmanuel Acho?

What's the vibe on him? Yeah. I mean, everybody probably don't know who he is. With all the Herbert stuff? Oh, you're talking about the quarterback? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That smoked with that boy.

We don't like that. But, you know, we just got to fix the narrative out there. We got to get out there and win some games. And, you know, that would have changed for sure. Man, Emmanuel Acho. Yeah, because Acho's talking crazy. That's your favorite guy, too. He's talking about our club.

Acho? Yeah. That's your favorite guy in media. Oh, that's the one that was talking about, uh, Tula and all that. Better than her. Yeah, yeah. Come on now. But y'all gave, you all gave Acho.

You definitely came, you definitely came back. Acho, come on. Now, stop that now. Yeah. Just thought that. Don't do that. What was the vibe like during that wild card game last year? Man, it was devastating.

That shit. It didn't feel good, man. It was definitely like a bad taste in our mouth. And like I say, 90% our team felt that. So we kind of, you know, we get a chance this year to kind of fix that. I feel like it was definitely good motivation going into this year. Is that like one of the worst, one of your worst feelings you've had in your career? Yeah.

any level on red or pot one or everything, you know, getting five turnovers and not winning it in the game. It's like, you know what I mean? The odds just aren't there. Like, you should have absolutely won that game. Yeah, it's just tough. Just, you know, you can't predict how the games come. You know, you always try to win the turnover battle and win the little battles that you

need to win, but it was just devastating. Who's a quarterback you most look forward to playing? Patrick Mahomes, of course. Mahomes? Yeah. opportunities for interceptions. I mean, you make a play on him. You know what I mean?

He's the guy. I like competition, but. He said, I like competition. Herbert or Mahomes? Herbert. Easily. Easy? Easily.

Mahomes is a hall ofamer right now. I don't think Herbert's a stud. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to throw shit at him. I'm just trying to. Yeah, Herbert. All day. Every day.

Herbert or? Herbert, bro. It don't matter who you say. Rivers. Oh, see, that's, I like Phil. I like Phil. Rivers. I don't know.

That's tough. That's a tough. They're different quarterback. Being a, like, being a defensive guy, what was it like playing with somebody like Phil? Phil is like everything. He was like the coach, the player, the quarterback. I mean, so he kind of did everything.

He made all the line checks. You know what I mean? So it was kind of like everything with him. And, you know, they're different players, like I said. Did you ever get chewed out by him? Was there every time he gave you a dangnabit? or anything like that. Let me see.

No, we used to try to get on his nerves to make him try to, you know, get mad at the defense. So that was our goal, try to get him. You wanted to have a curse. Yeah, I wanted to see if we can get. You want to hear an F bomb myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it never happened. It never happened?

Never. What a guy. Did he ever get after somebody on offense and, like, you'd hear stories with like Peyton Manning. Like if a tight end or somebody would drop a ball in practice, he'd like get him out, he'd like get him off the offense himself. Coach would tell him the titan to go back on me back, nah, nah, not, give me somebody in here who can catch.

Oh, yeah, all the time. Like they ran it like that. All the time. He had that standing. When you came in the huddle, he came on the field. You was going to line up right. If you wasn't lined up right, he was going to say something. And it just was that mutual understanding that, hey, when I'm out here in the hud, I need to know what I'm doing.

You know, whether you're a running back that got protection or whatever it is, he wants to know, you need to know what you're doing. He's got to be so sick to play for a quarterback that, you know. How long did he, how long did he play? Who? Seven years. 17 years. Yeah. With that wanky-ass fucking sidearm throw.

Checking stuff at the line. Yeah. and everything. Playing on a torn ACL? Yes, in the playoffs. Yeah. Philip God, man. Nine kids?

Like, he was working on and off the field. I thought he had double digits. No, he just went to 10. He just went to 10, but when he was playing. He didn't get to 10 until he had to retire, and he was like, now I have more time for these kids. My God, got 10. Another one in the game here.

He's got one graduating college and one about to come out the womb. My boy, can you is. My God, congrats. You have a kid, right? Yeah. You have a kid, right? Yeah, I heard that baby is stacked. Yeah, he's looking like a defense in right now.

He's like, he's going to be on the DM, but he's definitely getting big for sure. I heard somebody might have been a big baby too with a nickname. What is it, Poo Bear? Poo bear? Y'all got to start telling the world. I'm just telling the world. Y'all be telling the world and about all these people this. Where'd you get that cute-ass nickname, Poo-Ber?

Come on, man, man. Look at this guy, yeah. You get that cute-ass nickname, dude? My mom used to call me that growing up. You little fat kid? Yeah, kind of chubby. He's over the cheeks and stuff. You get bullied?

No, I didn't get bullied, but. No, you weren't having that, huh? Oh, Pooh bear, man. Hell yeah. When did you go from Poo Bear to safety? I ain't started playing safety until I got to the ninth grade because, you know, that was the only position open on varsity. I played offense my whole life.

Yeah, like running back. No, running back. Come on, let's see. I was all right, man. I was decent. But, you know, I played offense my whole life. And that was the only position over. I didn't want to play JV because I didn't want to play on Thursday nights.

I need to be out of Friday night. Friday night. Yeah, you know, as a freshman, you need to be out there. You know, that's different. Man. You know what I mean? Different energy. So I was like, I play CETT.

You know what I mean? I was like, I played. So I started learning and I just went from there, man. What kind of hypothetical could we give him? He feels like he'd have some fun with it. I feel like I would you rather too in the back. If we could think of a couple would you rather would be nice. Whatever you need, man.

I do. So hey, running back, though, because you think you can still tote that rock? Yeah, I definitely. See, I need to get a pick to show the world. Like, you want with the ball in my hands, what I can do. See, they ain't seen that side of me. They think I'm just, you know, a hit. I just, I need to rock in my hands, you know what I'm that so I can show him.

How many did you have last year? Three. Because you had, I mean, your stash, you was filled up pretty well last year. You were in the defensive player the year running at one moment, right? But not really like that. I got to get my stacks up, man. I'm telling you, I could have swore he was in a conversation at some point. Nah, man, I got to get some more sacks, more picks.

That's on me then. Yeah. Who's the best player on the team right now? Justin Herbert. Who's the second best player on the team? Third one James. Who's the third best player on the team? shit that's tough because you got some studs now like y'all got a roster

i don't know keet and kinan it's tough it's great teens you're 11 too leal joey i mean everybody's tough i don't know that's tough but you got you one on defense yeah for sure over bosa yeah however you want to say you're trying to make us you say you said you like me overboza you see how you said who's the hardest hitter you've ever played with um hardest hitter um as a player yeah Polydenzel Perman, he used to hit hard, bro. He used to hit people hard. I was going to see if that's who he's going to say,

because he is, like, a fucking missile. Yeah, yeah. He's insane. Dude walks and runs like a penguin's got his feet out. But he teased off on my motherfuckers, bro. He ain't so hard, bro. He's hard, bro. I'm not joking, like, walk around just, and I'm telling you, like, just a white beater, just yoke 24-7.

Yes. Like, Debo. Yeah. Got sweats on, white beater, slides. You see, walking like a penguin? Yeah. I mean, you know, yeah, he's got to feed out. That's my dog.

I'm telling you. That's my dog. But we'll fucking knock your dick in the dirt, bro. Oh, shit. Yeah, boy, that boy, he's, boy. Yeah, man. When you were coming out high school, who were your top five? Top five, what, safeties?

No, top five schools. Top five, oh, Florida State. Florida State. No, come on. Who are the top five offers? Oh, my top five offers? See, I committed, like, ninth grade, so a lot of teams didn't really offer me. Now we got to back up.

In ninth grade? Yeah. So you started playing safety in ninth grade. Yeah, I committed. Like, going into my ninth grade year. That's fucking nuts. Yeah. Like, how did you pull that offer that quick?

Was it at a camp? Somebody called you. They offered me to a junior day. And I'm, like, a freshman. I'm like, why they invite me to like a junior day type? You know, when juniors and seniors go, yeah? Yeah. After your freshman year, yeah?

Yeah, this is going on. No, this was, yeah, this was February of my freshman year. Yeah, so after the season, how I already. After the season, okay. Oh, shit, was it before? Because that is, you're right, like the junior days are like in February. Yeah, I can't remember, bro, if it was before or it's been so long ago. But I can't remember.

But they invited me to a junior day, but I didn't know why they was invited me. So I go to Tyler asking my dad takes me up there. And he offers me, Coach Fisher. And he said, I see you in four years. No shit. Yeah. Kind of went from there. Yeah, kind of went.

But I had Alabama, Ohio State. I had Florida. Was it by making a good push there at the end, your senior year that were you kind of thought? But I was already tattooed with Florida State 9th grade. Oh, for real? 19th grade. It was already over with, bro.

Tattoos in ninth grade? Yeah, bro. Man. We had a thing at our high school. You see a kid with tattoos in high school and you're like, oh, fuck, dude. Oh, no. Yeah, I hold basketball. We had a thing.

So I used to play basketball. And our whole starting five, we had to have, like, tattoos. Or you couldn't be out there on the court with us. Oh, really? Yeah. So I whole starting five, we were just tatted up. So that's how I kind of started for me. When did you have a full sleeve?

I didn't see. I didn't go to the sleeve to, like, Junior senior year kind of like when I was on my way out. Of high school? Yeah. Brother, you got to understand. You got to understand how that's not a real thing. You had to be thinking to yourself at one point in high school football.

You're looking at on the field and you don't see any other guys with tattoos. You don't think you're an outlier. No, there's a lot of people with tattoos more than thing. It's Florida. It's a different world, dude. They're different, man. Those are you about Pahokie, Florida. I know about the mock down of them boys.

Yeah. I know about, they like three hours away from them. So I went to Michigan. and Hockey, Florida. And you know what Dinar Robinson is? Yeah, Jack, Rapid. They would fucking talk. Yeah.

I wouldn't understand a fucking word they're saying, dude. It was the most nuts shit. That's lame, man. No, they wouldn't enunciate. They wouldn't fucking, it was the most wild thing. Yeah.

I'm like, hey, how you doing, man? I'm like, you got a, I need a translator. There's no fucking, it was fucking wild. Some paddles while these dudes are talking. Dude. But Dinar would get with them and they'd be laughing.

I'd like, man, I wish I could laugh with them. But I just can't understand what they're saying. Oh, man. The Hokie dudes are different. Not them boys speak a whole other lingo down there. Yeah. Maybe chasing rabbits as their conditioning test. Yeah.

No, that's a real thing. They really would. They'd be like an acre fence and they'd be like rabbits and then they'd catch a rabbit. You're done. That's a Florida thing. They do that. That's fucking legendary. Yeah, they do that in Florida.

Yeah, that's some weird shit. What's a Florida thing? It's a Florida. They do that in Miami, too. Like Miami, Central Florida. Jacksonville. They do that everywhere in Florida. So Florida's, you think football is best footballs in Florida?

Of course. And in Texas? Yeah, of course. In Pennsylvania? Man, any state, any country, any Florida. That's it. Florida. You want to a skilled person go to Florida.

Really? I don't disagree with that at all. Florida's fucking nuts. I'm saying, skill position. Get those linemen up north. Over Georgia? No, Georgia got the linemen up, see. Georgia, they got like my Texas.

They got good linemen. Alabama, they got good linemen. You want you a skill player? Go to Florida, Louisiana. Hey, Louisiana now. Louisiana now. I'm telling you. Yeah. Who's the best place?

to come out of Louisiana, in your opinion? The best player. They have some studs now. To come out of Louisiana? The state of Louisiana. The state? Ooh. Like.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about that? What you want? I can give you the best. Dionne Sanders corner. Okay. Safety.

Oh, who the best safety? I don't like saying myself, man. You just, I mean. You have a couple times. Herbert. And then he said, you. Yeah, but that was being honest, though. But.

Yeah, I say me right now. I don't know. I got to think of some. What about running back? Oh, we got a lot of running backs. I don't know. Derek Henry, probably. Derek Henry.

What about... Do you ever play him? You ever play Uly? Yeah. No, we didn't play Uly. That boy was going crazy out of that, Yulah. What about a receiver? Who the best receiver we got?

Coming out, that came out of Florida. I don't know. Probably in the league, right now. Probably like Calvin Ridley, one of them boys good. Calvin Ridley's going to be a menace. Yeah. Three Calvin Ridley. He's back.

You see what he said? No. He said, I'm going to make up every single dollar I lost that on last year. Like a true gambler. I love that. Yeah, he's fucking... I'm betting the house of myself. My boy, a beast, man.

He's a beast. He's a beast. And he's really a beast. You want to see him again? You want to see him again? You want to see the Jags again? I want to see anybody we play right now. I'm ready to go.

Who's your biggest threat besides the Chiefs? Who I like to play? No, like you... The biggest threat besides the Chiefs. The Los Angeles Chargers. Besides the Chiefs. I feel like they won a Super Bowl. They don't, they...

Yeah, but there's got to be... There's 30 other teams. I mean, probably the Broncos or the Raiders, they're in our division. We got to win those, man. But other threats, I feel like you're going to meet them. Some teams may better beat them, or we gotta see them when we see them,

you know what I mean? They ain't really threats. Did you see all the stuff that Sean Payton was saying about Russell Wilson and the coaching staff from last year at the Broncos? No, what he said? He basically just fucking crushed him.

I won't ask you the question. But he was like, they fucking sucked. The coaching sucked. All of it sucked. Oh, man. You know, I'll get into none of that, man. Yeah, I get it. You know about Acho.

Nah, he can't be talking about that. That's different. He's talking about one of my guys. No, Acho stuff is so big. There's no way it doesn't make it in the locker room. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah.

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Do we have a hypothetical? Would you rather have skin that changes color based on your emotions or tattoos appear all over your body depicting what you did yesterday? My skin changed color. Boy, I'll be living, you feel me?

I'll be living, I'll be living, you know what I mean? Change colors, though. Derwin's horny again. What color would you be on a Friday night? I'm bright. I'm outside with it. I'm going to be bright. Y'all are something out there, man.

That's funny. What was the hypothetical that we were split on earlier? It was a big one. Oh, yeah. Would you rather have all of your phone messages leaked and pictures leaked or get rid of your phone forever? Man, link them. I need my phone, bro. You have everything linked?

You would leak all the history of every text you've ever said. Oh, hell, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was with you at first, too. I had to switch up. Right now to date. Yeah, yeah, but no, da, da, da, da, da. You got to have no longer have a phone ever again. I'm on the computer.

It don't matter. As if we go back to get a landline. Yeah. Oh, my God. What we're I love how we just pivot to something else. That was the worst show. We are the worst show ever.

But when you switched it like that? What do you think about this year coming up? Go ahead, Will. No, yeah, I was going to go back to ball. Like, for your game and your development, where do you feel like you've grown the most, like, since being in the league? I feel like just being a leader

and understanding the room and understanding the guys, like, around me. I feel like just me being able to lead more and me being able to understand people more as loud, me to play more calmer and like use less athleticism if that makes sense. Yeah. I kind of already be there, you know, with my mind and kind of easier for me. Those like relationships and confidence, like being a leader and everything else, how do you, when do you feel like that made a jump? Like, were you somebody who was more soft-spoken in the beginning? No. I was always a leader, but I never wanted to be the guy that come in and step in

nobody toes, you know, as a coming as a rookie, you kind of respect the room. You kind of kind of, you know, see who on the team, see what the leaders is. But now it's like, I'm in year six now, bro. So it's like, I kind of understand my role. I understand, you know, what they pay me to do. So I understand my positions. Yeah. And it makes more sense to me.

I'm more comfortable because, you know, having that time away those two years, I got to grow, you know, I got to be able to be in a building and see stuff and learn. So it was cool. When you first came in the league, besides Philip Rivers, like, who were the staple leadership, like group of this team? It was a guy by the name of Brandon Mebain. He was a big leader. Melvin Ingram.

He was a leader on the team. Mel was a freak athlete, bro. Yeah, Mel was a leader. When he would do that stand-up rover, he would have like three down linemen, he would just pick and choose where he went? Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I'll probably say who else was the leader.

Keene was a leader, too, on the team, of course, and Casey Hayward, those guys. I'll bring that up because the last time I saw you, the first time I met you was with the Pouncy Brothers. Yeah. In Florida. Yeah. And I don't know.

Right. Yeah. It's good night, yeah. What's that? It's a good night, yeah? It's a solid night. Yeah, those are my big bro. Those are like my big bro.

Yeah, those are my big bro. Florida too, right? Huh? They're Florida guys too. Oh, yeah. Come on, now. Polk County. Like, you know what I mean?

That's Polk County, man. Yeah, come on. But what was it was like playing with the Pounce's, one of the Pouncy brothers? Man, it was amazing. It was funny. It was crazy. I used to chill with him like every day.

You know, we used to just chill, him being in the league, him seeing a lot of stuff, you know, and telling me, hey, don't do this, don't do this, so he was like that big brother for me that I never had. You know, someone I can relate to that's from my hometown that then kind of, you know, went to college, something I get the scene like from firsthand and, you know, being on the charges.

So, you know, I learned a lot from him, for real. How long are you on to play? I'm trying to play. If you got to decide how long you played, how long would you want to play? So I can't do it no more. I'm trying to play. The wheels fall off. I missed that on.

two seasons. So I'm fresh. I feel good. So I'm ready. Man, I was hoping you said numbers so I could come up with a hypothetical. Would you play if you knew you were going to be, like would you be a guy who

at the older you get and you become a backup, would you do like a backup role? No, I ain't going to be no backup. You know what I'm saying, though? Like, say you get old. Hey, we want you to mentor these guys. Yeah. We're going to, hey, we're going to draft a guy.

Yeah. He's going to play in front of you. You never know what the future. Yeah, I'll be a great leader. You never know. You know, but I feel like my talent, God got me. I'm going to be good. I mean, but God's got everybody to a certain extent.

And then by the time, Tom Brady, brother, like, besides him, everybody gets got. Yeah. Maybe Aaron Rogers, too. I'm trying to think of a, I'm trying to think of, like, a fun hypothetical base off of him how long he wants to play. You get a Super Bowl, you're done after year seven. Seven years from him?

Say you either play 12 years in the league? Yeah. No Super Bowls. You made the rest pro bowls. And they finish your thing up. I was going to say 12 years in the league, no Super Bowls. Or you play seven years and get a Super Bowl. Shit.

What did you say? Seven years? What was that again? Seven years in the league. Am I career over? So either, yeah, you get a Super Bowl this year and next year. Or you play 12 years and you'll never get a Super Bowl. I got to get that bowl, man. I got to get a bowl, but I want to play 12.

Oh, no. That shit's tough, bro. Oh, no. It's tough. You got to answer. I can't pick one, bro. I don't know. That's tough, bro.

I can pass that one. I don't know. What would you do? Seven years and a Super Bowl? I feel like I want to play, though, bro. I want to. Yeah, I know. I feel like I want to play.

Why do you play the game for love? To win. To win. The ring. That's like me saying, okay, if I told you, I win a Super Bowl, you play two years and we win a Super Bowl in one year versus you playing eight years and never win. And which one you're going to pick?

Two years and quit? I'll probably do eight years. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. No Super Bowl. But you get seven years in, you get a Super Bowl. You got a contract. So you could almost be like...

All right. You made money. You do two years. You're not going to ever see like a second contract. So I would be like, okay, you want to play eight. Yeah, because that's selfish need for the... Yeah. Once you're established financially, it's almost like, oh, it's all about the...

You know, maybe you could just go Super Bowl. Yeah, you've done it. That's why it shows. And so now having seven is one of those things where it's like you could just... Yeah. But if it's not 10. 10 is not 12. 12 is not seven

I mean seven We're doing it We're doing a fucking math out here Yeah Look at all of us Yeah So you I want to play

I want to play So you did 12 I'm doing I need to do it I gotta be out there Well let's Let's juice this up a little bit We'll do eight years

In a Super Bowl Or 13 years You got me You got me You got me You went out of the eight You got me Oh that's good

No I was just saying Super Bowl with eight You got me You don't take that one Yeah, I take that one over 13, no bowl That's... Yeah, seven doesn't sound as good as eight.

Yeah, eight sounds better than eight, nine and nothing sounds better than 10. No, I'm sure. Fuck. The decade is what you need. The elusive year 10. Yeah, definitely.

What about, what about, seven years Super Bowl? We'll go back to that. But you get 15 years, but you never ever winning season again. Nah, but I got to, but you know how that shit is. You don't win.

But it's the worst. It's not fun at all. It's not fun if you ain't winning, but it's literally the worst. Are you close with Edron James at all? Yeah. That's my cousin. Yeah. Edron James?

Yeah. Go ahead, JP. What do you got? I was going to ask if he helped you out as you were, like, coming up into the league. So, like, he was always, like, you know, my dad, because he's growing my dad's second cousin and my third cousin. So it's kind of like, you know, we had like an outside relationship. And as I got older in college and stuff.

You know, he started, I got his number and stuff. And, you know, we started connecting. Yeah. That's pretty fucking sick. Edron James is your cousin. I was about to say uncle. Yeah. Yeah.

Who was your biggest mentor in the league? My biggest mentor? I'll say probably like my parents. And then I had like a lot of great coaches alone the way that kind of, I can't just give all the credit to one coach. Because from my Pop Warner's coach to my high school coach, I kind of had some good coach. that can help, you know, that give you that push, you know, to keep going.

So I can't just give all the credit to one person. Is there somebody that does stand out when you look back on your, like, journey, career, all of it? Yeah, my mom. Like, oh, man, this, this, whether it's coach, parent. Yeah, my mom, dad, for sure, because I feel like without them, I wouldn't be in a position I am, man. Especially my mom making the sacrifices, same for my dad, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like this has been a fucking, we've hit the, dude, is there anything we're missing?

because I feel like we got, you know, his guards down. We're having a little bit of fun. Yeah, who's your favorite staff member of the Chargers? I'm not bullshit. Megan was speaking very hard. Give us more flowers. Why Megan? You know, we came in the same time.

It's been fun and anything I needed. She's been there, so, you know, we locked in. Well, brother, we appreciate you coming on the podcast. Appreciate y'all. Have a healthy year. Thank you, bro. I hope you guys do well, not as well as the Raiders, but I hope you fucking do well, brother.

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